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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:12,160 # Oh, how do you know the highest... 2 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,800 # Fascinating Rhythm You've got me on the go 3 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,000 # Fascinating Rhythm I'm all a-quiver... # 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,560 Once upon a time, a teenager 5 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,320 in the suburbs of North London 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,760 uploaded some videos to YouTube 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,400 and they became a global sensation. 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,120 JACOB HARMONISES 9 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:39,920 # One, two, three 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,280 # Come with me and you'll be 11 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,560 # In a world of pure imagination... 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,880 I'm here in North London, heading for the world 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,600 of Jacob Collier. # Your imagination. # 14 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:59,760 # Worshipped the beloved 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,600 # With a kiss. # 16 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,880 Jacob's extraordinary a cappella harmonies went viral 17 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,960 and caught the attention of music world legends 18 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:11,440 Quincy Jones and Herbie Hancock. 19 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,720 I promise you, you've never seen this before 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,560 or heard this before. 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:16,920 Unbelievable. 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,360 Unbelievable! 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,320 # Don't you worry 'bout a thing... 24 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:25,480 # Don't you worry 'bout a thing, 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:26,680 # Baby... 26 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,880 I thought I was good with harmonies. 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,640 No, he was all over my stuff and past that. 28 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,800 Hey! 29 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,160 Jacob's YouTube uploads turned out to be the opening act 30 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,760 of a musical career that has been meteoric. 31 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:50,280 # Moon river 32 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:55,400 # Wider than a mile. # 33 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,120 Next guest is nominated for two Grammys, 34 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,000 including Album of the Year. 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,120 # You're all I need... 36 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,600 Jacob's multi-instrumental skills are dazzling. 37 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,840 # Underneath the moonlight, oh. # 38 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,640 # Cos I've been sleeping on my dreams, ah 39 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:15,360 # So I imagined we were playing a game 40 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,200 # Something like you could be an animal 41 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,600 # And all I had to do was be tame. # 42 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,480 And he collaborates with music world superstars. 43 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,160 He's like nothing I've ever seen before, 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,880 worked with before, listened to before. 45 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,200 # Night and day, light and dark... He's so in demand. 46 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,840 # Any day it could be torn in half. # 47 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,160 We all recognised, "Oh, this guy can make us sound better." 48 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,080 # My love is my protection... 49 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,360 Jacob now tours the world. 50 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,440 # I'll be a world of your projection. # 51 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,000 And his music crosses all boundaries of genre, 52 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,280 from pop to jazz to classical. 53 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,920 INSTRUMENTAL 54 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,520 The reason he doesn't sound like he has any boundaries 55 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,880 when he plays is because what's going in 56 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,200 doesn't have any boundaries. 57 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,280 He can't help but explore. 58 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,080 # Cos I've been sleeping on my dreams, ah... 59 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,840 Jacob made music history by being the only British artist 60 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,800 ever to win Grammys for each of his first four albums. 61 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,240 Not even The Beatles did that. 62 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,160 # I've been sleeping on my dreams. # 63 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,080 Jacob doesn't have a Hollywood mansion. 64 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,160 When he's not touring the globe, 65 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,560 he lives a very down-to-earth existence. 66 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,680 I think I'm getting warm. 67 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,560 He's still producing music 68 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,760 out of a small room in the family home where he lives with his mum. 69 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,680 Come on in. 70 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:16,960 So... 71 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,200 ..this is the legendary music room? 72 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,120 It's my favourite room in the world. 73 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,680 This is the room... 74 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,360 We're in the room where it happens. 75 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,200 JACOB VOCALISES 76 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,440 # I love the way that I feel when you put your arms over me... 77 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,800 When did you first come to this room, can you remember? 78 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,880 I learned to walk in here, aged one. 79 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,160 # Cos every time I think about it 80 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,160 # I can't stop thinking about it. # 81 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,040 I see this array of guitars. Along here, yeah. 82 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,280 All sorts of guitars. 83 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:49,520 Different stages of my life. 84 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,440 This one, this is my first guitar ever. 85 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,720 A nylon string... JACOB STRUMS 86 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,280 How old were you there? ..which I adore. 87 00:04:55,280 --> 00:04:56,760 I think 14 or so. 88 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,200 And my first-ever bass guitar was this guy, 89 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,160 which I think was about the same time as this guy. 90 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,120 So age 14 or so. And it seemed so big in my hands. 91 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,240 To me, I think, whenever I play any instrument, 92 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,800 I'm just trying to be a voice. 93 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,480 Whether it's a piano or drums or guitar or ukulele or whatever, 94 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,200 it's all really the same language. 95 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:21,560 Like this typewriter here. 96 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,080 So that's nice. 97 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,280 And until now, as far as I can see, all that work I've seen of yours 98 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:31,160 on YouTube, all those endless things, 99 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,200 they were all made in this room? It's all in here. 100 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:35,920 I did it all on one mic until I was 20. 101 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,040 And I wanted to show you that mic, actually... Yeah. 102 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,840 because it's such a cool beastie. 103 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:42,280 OK, check this out. Black velvet bag. 104 00:05:42,280 --> 00:05:44,400 This is... THEY LAUGH 105 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,680 ..my original SM58 Shure microphone. 106 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,000 Yeah. 107 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,880 Hey, that's an antique. 108 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,160 It's an antique. And I don't mean to brag, 109 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,680 but...it smells really good. 110 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,160 Go on, have a go. 111 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:01,880 This is the kind of mother ship. The mother ship? 112 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,040 Yeah. 113 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,160 It was here where Jacob's ambitious experiment 114 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,160 with harmonisation, his computer wizardry, 115 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,760 and the power of social media would all converge 116 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,280 to change his life forever. 117 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:19,000 # Everybody's got a thing. # 118 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,480 It was Jacob's arrangement 119 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:21,880 of a Stevie Wonder classic, 120 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,760 Don't You Worry 'Bout a Thing, 121 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,160 that went viral. 122 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,640 # Reachin' out in vain 123 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:31,240 # Just taking the things not worth having 124 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,560 # Don't you worry 'bout a thing... 125 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,520 JACOB HARMONISES 126 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,760 # Don't you worry 'bout a thing, baby... 127 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,520 I took that song and I went absolutely nuts on it - 128 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,040 like, harmonically - because I just wanted to reach the limits 129 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,320 of this fabric. 130 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,760 I knew chords and I knew the piano. But it wasn't enough. 131 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,760 I wanted to go further. I wanted to go deeper. 132 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,600 # Don't you worry 'bout a thing... 133 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,680 # Don't you worry 'bout a thing, baby. # 134 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,040 I was doing all this stuff. 135 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,480 I didn't understand what I was doing, 136 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:02,760 but I was doing microtones - 137 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,480 notes between notes on the piano - 138 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,240 and some of these notes, like this one, see, that's a quarter tone. 139 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:08,600 You can't play it on a piano. 140 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,360 You have to do that by ear because it doesn't exist on the piano. 141 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,280 It goes... JACOB VOCALISES 142 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,560 Like this. It goes between the two notes. 143 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,760 The things which always surprise me about Jacob 144 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,600 is his inherent knowledge 145 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,000 of how to get in between the cracks 146 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,120 of the Western scale, you know? 147 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,920 Those quarter turn things he does, you know, 148 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,760 which are way beyond me. 149 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,400 And here I actually managed to find the session. 150 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,400 JACOB VOCALISES 151 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,520 But when you hear it, it sounds uniquely like him. 152 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,280 That's the great thing, you can recognise. 153 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,480 And that's almost what all musicians are after. 154 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,040 When they start, they're trying to sound like somebody else, 155 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,160 but actually what they want is their own sound. 156 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,360 Whether you like it or you don't like it doesn't matter. 157 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,560 You recognise, "Oh, that's them. That's their sound. 158 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,200 "That's their voice." 159 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,640 If you isolate the parts... 160 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,120 LOW PITCH: # Standing on the side when you check it. # 161 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,640 ..they sound really strange. 162 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:11,840 HIGH-PITCH: # Cos I'll be standing on the side when you check it. # 163 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,680 OFF-PITCH: # Cos I'll be standing on the side when you check it. # 164 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,120 So you're... 165 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,080 In the end, when you combine those... 166 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:22,200 HARMONISED: # Cos I'll be standing on the side when you check it. 167 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,600 JACOB HARMONISES 168 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,480 These chords are incredibly dense, complex chords. 169 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:38,600 # Ba-ba-ba-ba, when you get off... 170 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:39,880 # ..your trip. # 171 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,040 Really dense, jazz-inspired, 172 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,120 classical-inspired chords, 173 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,320 and all I'm thinking about 174 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:46,400 is the way in which 175 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:47,880 the notes move between each other 176 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,320 as melodies, and then 177 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,320 does it feel good? And otherwise, there are no rules. 178 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,320 So much of what he does is at the edge of the impossible. 179 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,560 # Don't you worry 'bout... 180 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:01,400 Jacob's homage to the Stevie Wonder classic 181 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,960 also contains a multi-instrumental flourish. 182 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:15,600 The guitar, mandolin, double bass, keyboard, piano, 183 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,280 djembe drums and other percussion instruments 184 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,080 are all being played by Jacob. 185 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,520 # Don't you worry 186 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,320 # Don't you worry 'bout a thing 187 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,200 # Don't you worry 188 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,000 # Don't you worry 'bout a thing. # 189 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,680 Anyway, it got to the point where the video was done, 190 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:34,480 and I put "Don't Worry 'Bout a Thing by Stevie Wonder, 191 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,320 "arranged and performed by Jacob Collier" 192 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:37,720 in this typeface font. 193 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,560 And there's always a moment when you get that feeling, 194 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:42,160 when you think, "Am I ready to do this? 195 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:43,440 "I'm not quite sure." 196 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,160 Cos it's very personal, all this stuff, for me, you know? 197 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,920 The process of layering these tracks and filming these videos 198 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,120 takes time, and obviously you're excited to share it. 199 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,400 But I remember there was a part of me that said, 200 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,680 "Jacob, are you sure that you want to do this?" 201 00:09:56,680 --> 00:09:58,920 Jacob at that time said, 202 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,480 "I'm not sure I'm ready to release it 203 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,640 "and give it away into the world." 204 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,280 And I said, "I really understand that. 205 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:11,200 "I think you'll make people's lives a lot better if you do. 206 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,680 "But I have a feeling, Jacob, that if you do put it out there 207 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:17,040 "that nothing will ever be the same again." 208 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,960 You take that leap and you don't know what's going to happen 209 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,800 after you take that leap. 210 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,840 This is a screenshot of the moment I pressed upload. 211 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,160 Here it says "no views". JACOB LAUGHS 212 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,200 From this exact second onwards, the view count started to climb, 213 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,600 and it climbed faster than I'd ever seen anything climb before of mine. 214 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,480 And within a couple of days, it was... 215 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,320 I think it was about 100,000. 216 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,560 So I put it on Bandcamp, which is the website, 217 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:47,960 you know, it's like £1, you can download it. 218 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,400 And I'm looking at my email thinking, 219 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:50,840 "Someone's having a laugh!" 220 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,600 This blew my mind. 221 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,040 And this is an email I received from Bandcamp. 222 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,560 "Ba-da-boom," it says, "another £12. 223 00:10:58,560 --> 00:10:59,800 "Greetings, Jacob Collier. 224 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,080 "Herbie Hancock has just bought a cart full of 225 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,080 "Don't You Worry 'Bout a Thing, Pure Imagination, 226 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,720 "Oh, What a Beautiful Morning..." 227 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,960 And then I received this little message that came with it. 228 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,760 Says, "Wow, Jacob, your stuff is amazing. 229 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,200 "Please keep expanding in your life as well as in your music. 230 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,640 "I believe that craft may be about melody, rhythm and harmony 231 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,280 "of the notes, but music is about life." 232 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:18,920 Herbie Hancock. Yeah. 233 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:23,480 I will never forget the first time I saw his YouTube video 234 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,200 on Don't You Worry 'Bout a Thing. 235 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,800 It blew my mind. 236 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,080 And he was a teenager, so I wrote him a little letter, 237 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,480 you know, telling him how much I adored what he had done. 238 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,480 There had been a decade before that of just swimming 239 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,720 in Herbie Hancock - harmonically pianistically, pocket. 240 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,320 I was just obsessed with him. 241 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:49,440 And so here he is in my Gmail inbox and I couldn't believe my eyes. 242 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,360 The day that Jacob uploaded the video, 243 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,920 Don't You Worry 'Bout a Thing, it was everywhere. 244 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,440 We got messages 245 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,640 on Quincy's Facebook. 246 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:00,760 Some of my artists 247 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,320 had forwarded it to me. 248 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:03,880 I was like, "OK, I gotta 249 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,440 "show this to Quincy." 250 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,560 Quincy Jones is one of the world's most acclaimed music producers. 251 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:11,040 Over six decades, 252 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:16,000 he's worked with Aretha Franklin, Frank Sinatra, Stevie Wonder 253 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,640 and Miles Davis, 254 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,920 to name just a few. 255 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,280 And I showed it to Quincy, 256 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,880 and Quincy just lost his mind. 257 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,040 He said, "I don't care what you're doing right now, 258 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,000 "I don't care how busy you are, 259 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,400 "find this kid." 260 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,440 So I get this email from actually someone on Quincy's team 261 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,520 saying, "Quincy's just seen Don't You Worry 'Bout a Thing 262 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:42,120 "and just freaked out and just wants to get on Skype. 263 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,360 "Are you down?" 264 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,720 I said, "Yeah. Yeah, I'm down. 265 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,080 "Of course. When?" So you're how old now? 18? 266 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,720 By this point, I was 19, and I woke up at seven in the morning. 267 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,480 You can see the morning sunshine here coming through the window. 268 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:54,800 Yeah. 269 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,800 This is the moment. 270 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,560 You captured it! I did. 271 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:01,720 I thought, "You know what, I might just screenshot this." 272 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,520 Well, what else would you do with him? 273 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,320 Not call him? 274 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,640 12 notes all over the world for 700 years, 275 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,400 and you have to make it through rhythm, melody and harmony. 276 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,040 You have to make it work. 277 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,880 Jacob knows how to make it work. 278 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,520 The first thing he said was, "Man, where'd you get those chords?" 279 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,840 Whatever he does blows my mind. 280 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,200 Unbelievable. 281 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,120 Unbelievable! 282 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,960 But he's that way with anything he touches, though, 283 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,320 and that's what... 284 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,840 ..hypnotised me when I first saw him. 285 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,520 And action. 286 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,520 JACOB BEATBOXES 287 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,280 Today, Jacob's musical identity 288 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,560 and multi-instrumentalist talents 289 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:47,520 are complemented by his collection of flamboyant shirts. 290 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,880 Yeah, I'm trying to work out which one I preferred. 291 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,080 Number two, I think. 292 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,040 Thanks. You're welcome. 293 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,520 THEY LAUGH 294 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,320 So I want to start at the beginning. Right at the beginning. 295 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,440 What is your first musical memory? 296 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,160 What do you retain now? 297 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,080 First musical memory, I would probably say, 298 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,720 was sitting in that room over there, 299 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,520 which was the music room of the house, 300 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,840 sitting on my mum's lap 301 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,800 and watching her play the violin above my head. 302 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,200 And that was my first experience of music 303 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,880 and one of my first memories ever, actually. 304 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,680 My dad said to me, 305 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,640 the moment Jacob popped out, 306 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,760 he said, "You've just got to keep playing to him. 307 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,560 "Play him the lullaby. Play him anything." 308 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,560 I picked up the violin around that time - 309 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,960 I'd say probably 18 months to two years old - 310 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,000 and by age four or five, I'd pretty much given up. 311 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,720 Did it disappoint you that Jacob didn't take up the violin? 312 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,640 Oh, that's really interesting. 313 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,160 I was impatient for results. 314 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,440 I wanted to hear a sound the moment that I could conceive it. 315 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,800 So a drum or a piano would go bang or smash, 316 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,200 but a violin, it takes a year or so, at least, 317 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,680 to even make one note sound good on the violin. 318 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:11,840 Was I disappointed? 319 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,240 No, absolutely not! 320 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,800 I mean, the child showed me already that he was so aware 321 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,560 of the sound world. 322 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,040 You don't need to have the violin. 323 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,840 Suzie Collier is a classical violinist, 324 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,600 conductor and professor of music. Down, then up. OK. 325 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,200 But you're going to really sock the bow with so much power. 326 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,160 Jacob's mother, Suzie, she is an incredible... 327 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,680 I mean, a really amazing teacher of music. 328 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,440 I learn things when, again, through the modern world of Instagram, 329 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:42,760 I watch her. 330 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,320 And I learn things, and you think, "Wow, that's great. 331 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,840 "I wish somebody had said that. 332 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,720 "I'm really pleased that I know that now!" 333 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,160 CLASSICAL MUSIC PLAYS 334 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,720 There's a story, isn't there, about your Hoover? 335 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,840 There is a story about our Hoover. 336 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,120 It's really true. 337 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,400 One day, the Hoover's on and 338 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,720 I simply say... 339 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,640 .."What do you think that note is?" 340 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,440 Your mother came in with a Hoover and asked you to tell her 341 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,160 what note it was? That's true. 342 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,160 What...? How did you respond? 343 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:24,880 Um, it was a funny thing. 344 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,840 Because, obviously, when you're growing up, 345 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,480 there's sounds all around you. 346 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,880 And many of those sounds are pitched sounds, you know? 347 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,160 The kettle goes boing or the Hoover turns on 348 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,760 or the microwave beeps or the car alarm, whatever. 349 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,880 And so what she began to kind of enable in me 350 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,680 was a sense of curiosity about how that note feels or felt. 351 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,360 "Sing that note, 352 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,320 "see if you can kind of resonate with it 353 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,320 "and just get the same frequency." 354 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,040 HOOVERS HARMONISE 355 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,640 I have a sense that music somehow is embedded in your DNA. 356 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,080 Where does it come from? 357 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,080 I had musical parents. 358 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,920 They were both violinists. 359 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,080 And this was my father's violin, 360 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,640 which he bestowed upon me when I was a student. 361 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,880 And he said to me, "I think this is the violin for you. 362 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,160 "I think it will really match your personality 363 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,680 "and it'll bring out the warmth in your playing." 364 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,080 Your mother. Yes. 365 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,080 Your brother. Indeed. 366 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,440 There's you. 367 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,120 And that's your father in the background? 368 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:36,320 That's my father. 369 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,960 My mother was Chinese Canadian. 370 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,600 She ended up coming over and went to the Royal College of Music. 371 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,320 My dad was the youngest student at the Royal Academy of Music, 372 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,560 and in the end they met. 373 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,160 I moved into this house in 1989. 374 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,480 From that moment, we've made music in every single room 375 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:03,840 in this house. 376 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,280 OK. 377 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,960 MUSIC STARTS 378 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,880 I would just go over there and press the play button on the CD player 379 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,760 and just wonder what would come out, you know? 380 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,120 Mozart. Herbie Hancock. Bach. 381 00:18:36,120 --> 00:18:37,880 Benjamin Britten, obviously. 382 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:42,800 # Peter Grimes! # 383 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,840 Britten was earth-shattering to me because it redefined 384 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,000 the whole of what it meant to be a singer, 385 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,440 a musician, a composer, a harmonist. 386 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:58,080 # Grimes! # 387 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,320 It could be anything by Sting. 388 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,040 # Every breath you take 389 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,240 # And every move you make... # 390 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,080 It was huge for me, Sting - 391 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,720 to stand there with that bass and sing. 392 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,520 And he was the first person I ever saw do that at the same time. 393 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,080 "Oh, so you can do both?" 394 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,400 On heavy rotation were people like Stevie Wonder and Bobby McFerrin. 395 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,640 HE VOCALISES 396 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,360 He was the absolute master - and still is the master - 397 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:26,240 at using his voice to be many instruments at once. 398 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,880 It could be anything by Earth, Wind & Fire. 399 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,480 # Let this groove light up your fuse. # 400 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:33,960 From a very early age, 401 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,280 complex harmonisations caught Jacob's ear, 402 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,480 especially the gospel-inspired a cappella group Take 6. 403 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:47,440 # But I've got something that will never, ever fail 404 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,120 # It's called love... 405 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,720 Take 6 is one of my absolute favourites of all time. 406 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,720 They're doing this insane modulation in harmonies. 407 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,480 # Oh, but I wish we had much more 408 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,680 # More love is what we need. # 409 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:10,360 At around six years old, Jacob was given his first Casio keyboard 410 00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:13,440 and a queue-based software program. 411 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,880 The means for starting a music room revolution were now in his hands. 412 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,800 Let me take you right back. OK. 413 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,120 This is 2006, 414 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:26,320 so I was 11 and then turning 12. 415 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,000 And I was obsessed with maths, and I was also obsessed with music. 416 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:36,120 And so my solution to this problem was to harmonise the times tables 417 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:38,120 with my little 12-year-old voice. 418 00:20:38,120 --> 00:20:39,600 No-one's ever heard these before. 419 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,760 This is the first time I've ever showed anyone this, really. 420 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,120 Oh, let's do... Let's do three. 421 00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:49,280 # Three times table 422 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,720 # Three times table... 423 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,360 You've doubled your voice up? Yeah, that's two voices. 424 00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:57,360 # Three times table... Now three voices. 425 00:20:57,360 --> 00:20:58,640 And I'm playing bass. 426 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,680 Here we go now! 427 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,320 # Once times three is three, yeah 428 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,120 # Two times three is six... # Mm-hm. 429 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:15,080 # Nine times table 430 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,520 RECORDING: # Nine times table... # 431 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,760 While he was working on the times tables, 432 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,680 they would be completely caught in our heads 433 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,800 and we would know those tables back to front. 434 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,120 Stuff that he's been into and stuff that he's been working on 435 00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:31,960 has been a huge part of the kind of soundtrack to my life. 436 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,480 Here we go! 437 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,160 # Once times seven is seven... OK! 438 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,800 # Two times seven is 14 439 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,120 # Three times seven is 21... # 440 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:45,080 My whole family would get sick of it. 441 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,560 Just so sick of this recording. 442 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,720 I don't really remember it driving me crazy. 443 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,240 I think you kind of just get into the groove of it. 444 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,400 SOPHIE LAUGHS 445 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,400 INSTRUMENTAL 446 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,760 What's it called, Ella? 447 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,080 No idea. 448 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,880 A lot of people might assume that there was 449 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,400 a massive musical rivalry between us as siblings, 450 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,400 but I think it would have been hard if I'd been trying 451 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,440 to be a professional musician, you know, 452 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,000 but my day job is to be a structural engineer. 453 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,280 Music is just so intrinsic to what our family is. 454 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,160 It's not really a question of rivalry. 455 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,360 I think there's been much more of a focus on the joy 456 00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:31,520 of making music, often together. 457 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,080 JACOB VOCALISES 458 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,960 When Jacob was ten, his parents separated 459 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,680 and his mother, Suzie, raised three children on her own. 460 00:22:57,120 --> 00:22:58,800 APPLAUSE 461 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,600 You have been a single mum for many years, 462 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,360 so it's quite an achievement for you having been able to do this, 463 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:07,480 to harmonise your family, 464 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:12,480 to create this sort of sense of achievement. 465 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,320 Are there tough times you've been through? 466 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,560 Are there times when people feel - you feel - this is too much, 467 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,200 you can't cope with it? 468 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,800 If I just sit in that and just think I'm just really alone 469 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,160 with these children, then it becomes such a huge and overpowering thing. 470 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,120 Do we experience the darkest of times? 471 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:30,520 Absolutely. 472 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,680 Absolutely! 473 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,720 But positive energy, I think, is always somehow in there 474 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,640 pervading the very, very darkest of times. 475 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:49,040 In terms of the life bumps that he and his family have been through, 476 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,720 that's also a blessing 477 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,760 because I think that's where his drive comes from. 478 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,440 The thing that's like, "Right, I'm going to make something of this." 479 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,120 APPLAUSE 480 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,640 You like to perform. That engagement with the audience is something. 481 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,160 So this is obviously something from very early on. 482 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,640 Did you ever want to be an actor? 483 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:18,160 I had a moment where acting surfaced in my life, which was really fun. 484 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,360 # Oh, what a day I don't care if it's grey 485 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:27,040 # If it's Christmas together... # 486 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,960 Nine-year-old Jacob played Tiny Tim 487 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:35,160 in a film version of A Christmas Carol starring Kelsey Grammer. 488 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,200 I started singing lessons at age eight 489 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,840 and they went till I was about 13 years old. 490 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,480 I think the work on the Christmas Carol film 491 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,880 was really important, and we both spent a long time 492 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,440 out in Budapest. 493 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,560 Tiny Tim! 494 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,160 If I may, young sir? 495 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,800 Here's his coat, mother. Wait, we're coming. 496 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,880 Thank you, Mr Scrooge! 497 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,600 Why, you're as light as a feather! 498 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,480 I believe we shall become fast friends, young man, you and I. 499 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:08,240 I could tell that he was taking in all sorts of ideas about direction. 500 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,840 I never really seriously considered it, 501 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,160 partly because I was never very good at pretending. 502 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,120 It's one of the reasons why, in some ways, 503 00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:17,840 the music industry can be a weird place to be 504 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,520 because so many people are performing 505 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,280 and exaggerating themselves the whole time, and it's all really... 506 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,320 And I think my approach to performance 507 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,160 is always just to sort of do the thing. 508 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,680 The first instrument I truly gravitated towards was the piano. 509 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,120 This guy - this is my original double bass. 510 00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:38,360 Yeah, it's quite a beauty. 511 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:40,920 It wasn't till I was about 14 until I picked up the bass, 512 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,520 which is my next instrument. 513 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,240 And there's something about standing with an instrument, as well. 514 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,640 These two beasties are called harpejjis. 515 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:53,320 The way this instrument works is you lay it on the floor, 516 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,400 or you can put it on a keyboard stand. 517 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,320 And the first tune I ever learned on a harpejji was 518 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,880 this James Taylor song called Carolina In My Mind. 519 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,520 And this was sort of the first challenge 520 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,400 because I thought, "If I can play this song, 521 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,840 "it will unlock lots of other songs that I can then play." 522 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,120 And I haven't played it in ages... 523 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,680 ..but it goes something like this. 524 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,000 MUSIC: Carolina In My Mind by James Taylor 525 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,880 I had been really obviously obsessed with chords for some time. 526 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,920 And I think lots of young musicians often come up against this moment 527 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,160 where they think, "Well, I don't know what I need to know next, 528 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,400 "but I want to get to that next stage." 529 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,280 When I was about 14 years old, 530 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,440 a family friend introduced me to a piano player 531 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,920 called Gwilym Simcock. 532 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,920 And I managed to go to a gig that he was doing, 533 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,920 and it was a huge moment for me because I realised, hearing Gwilym, 534 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,280 that I didn't know anything about the piano... 535 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,240 ..but that there was so much I wanted to learn. 536 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,120 And at the end of the gig, I went up to him with my mum at the end, 537 00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:12,520 and I said, you know, "Gwilym, I'm such a huge fan 538 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,720 "and I would just love to have a lesson one day." 539 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,880 I think he must have been about 14 or 15 at that time. 540 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,960 There's a long way for many musicians to go at that stage, 541 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,400 and I've taught many people over the years. 542 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,080 And, of course, at that stage, 543 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,120 you're, a lot of the time, dealing a lot more with the rudiments. 544 00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:33,840 And he said, "Well, play me something." 545 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,400 So, I played him something. I can't remember what I played him. 546 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,200 Probably a simple jazz standard or something that I knew. 547 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,760 And I basically used these six fingers here. 548 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,560 I didn't use these ones. I just did this. 549 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,760 So, I would play these really, really dense chords and... 550 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,320 Because that's what I knew that he loved, as well. 551 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,440 It seems like a million years ago now, 552 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,200 but I do remember kind of some of his responses 553 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,840 to the things I was suggesting 554 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,560 and just his general approach to what we were looking at. 555 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,800 He told me something that kind of surprised me and slightly miffed me, 556 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,640 which was, "I think you should practise some scales." 557 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,920 That's what he said. 558 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,600 He said, "When you have technique, 559 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,640 "then your technique will give your ears ideas." 560 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,080 And I always thought that your ears dictated everything. 561 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,560 If you heard it, you could play it, cos that was my experience. 562 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,840 What I didn't realise is if you give yourself a capacity 563 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,000 that's greater than your ears, then your ears just sponge up 564 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,680 all the technique and grow, as well. 565 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,400 It's impossible to take much credit for anything that he's done. 566 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,760 You know, everything is basically self-taught with him, 567 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,400 so the fact that some of the music that I've made 568 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,680 has had a nice impact on him is very, very special for me. 569 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,800 At around 2011, so when I was 16, 17, 570 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,520 that's when I made my first-ever YouTube video, 571 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,520 which was called Serendipity. 572 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,920 This was the first moment I tried to make something 573 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,360 that I could look at to go with what I was hearing. 574 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,040 So, you're actually trying different things, 575 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,720 absorbing different things, 576 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,040 understand where you're going and where the journey's taking you. 577 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,800 As you say, you then... Exactly, yeah. 578 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,440 And I didn't know where I was going, 579 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,440 but I just tried as much as I possibly could, 580 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,400 so from times tables to covering pop songs to harmonising, 581 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,360 eventually harmonising jazz tunes. 582 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,400 I wasn't thinking too much about what I was doing. 583 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,760 I was just doing things that were the most satisfying to me. 584 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,400 I kept uploading these videos, 585 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,080 and each time I'd upload one, 586 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,320 it would be another little bump of audience members or whatever. 587 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,040 I found Jacob because I was half-sleep 588 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,400 listening to a playlist of choral music, 589 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,160 and I woke up in the middle of this piece 590 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,720 by someone called Jacob Collier, 591 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,280 and I thought he must be from the 16th century. 592 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,600 And he immediately just won my heart, 593 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,400 and I'd only heard one piece at that point. 594 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,440 Entered the rabbit hole on YouTube of, like, all his amazing videos, 595 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,800 like, him performing, him doing his harmonies of, like... 596 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,920 Him doing the covers. And, yeah, it was... 597 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,560 It's like a magician at work, like. 598 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,280 Because Jacob's come up during social media 599 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,080 where you have direct communication with your audience - 600 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,160 there's no middleman at all - 601 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,400 it's all perfectly suited to him, just reaching you directly. 602 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,680 He really was born at the right time. 603 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,960 And then came this arrangement 604 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,400 of a Stevie Wonder song called Don't You Worry 'Bout A Thing. 605 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,200 HARMONISES: # Don't you worry 'bout a thing... # 606 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,600 Quincy was so in love with Don't You Worry 'Bout A Thing, 607 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,800 and later, the Fascinating Rhythm cover 608 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,360 that Jacob did, as well, 609 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,040 that he would start every single meeting 610 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,320 by showing those two videos to whoever he was meeting with. 611 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,720 It didn't matter if that was Paul McCartney or Queen Rania, 612 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,760 he would show that video and say, 613 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,120 "I've never seen anything like this. Have you?" 614 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,640 So, we invited him to come meet us in person for the first time 615 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,120 at the Montreux Jazz Festival in Montreux, Switzerland. 616 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,400 So, I thought, "OK, I'll go, then." 617 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,640 I met him at the airport. We went back to Montreux together. 618 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,120 We entered this hotel lobby and there was Quincy at this piano. 619 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,640 And the two of us surprised Quincy, and Quincy jumped up from his chair 620 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,440 and was like, "Jacob Collier!" 621 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,320 And he was like, "Show me some of those chords you were playing." 622 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,080 And he's saying, "What are those chords on 623 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,520 "Don't You Worry 'Bout A Thing?" 624 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,640 And I'm saying, "Oh, it was this chord." 625 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,000 And then, "Oh, actually, you can't play this next chord 626 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,640 "cos it has a microtone in it. 627 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,000 "You can't play it on the piano. That note doesn't exist." 628 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,720 And he's like, "Wow, that's cool. Let's go to the jam." 629 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,000 Because he's going to take us into the future, 630 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,960 I'd like you to get ready for some real serious talent here. 631 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:02,240 And Quincy gets the mic and says, 632 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:07,120 "Right, I want to introduce you to a young man, Jacob Collier." 633 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,480 So, I stand up and I play My Funny Valentine. 634 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,280 Unscheduled late-night jams are a Montreux tradition. 635 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,280 That's Herbie Hancock sitting there, 636 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,640 and I'm thinking... What a day! 637 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,640 .."What a day!" You know, my buffer is just full. I'm like... 638 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,280 When I got a chance to hear him in Montreux, 639 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,960 that's when I got a chance 640 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,720 to really hear his jazz chops. 641 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,960 That's what we call that, right? 642 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,360 And he's got the jazz chops, that's for sure. 643 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,520 And something happened. 644 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,800 # Your looks are laughable... # 645 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,000 Something kind of clicked. 646 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,560 # Unphotographable... # 647 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,680 And I just sort of felt like, "OK, 648 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,720 "I don't know what I'm going to do next, 649 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,640 "but I think I'm in the right place at the right time." 650 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,600 When you meet an artist for the first time, 651 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,880 your priority is to get to know them and their dreams. 652 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,520 And then, that night, 653 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,760 after hanging out with all these people for so long 654 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,320 and jamming in the jam for four hours, whatever, 655 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,600 I go up to Quincy's hotel room, 656 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,240 and I sat on this balcony with Adam, 657 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,560 and Adam said... 658 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,720 You know, "What are you after with all of this? 659 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,320 "What do you want to do with your life?" 660 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,120 I said, "I don't know, man. 661 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,400 "I don't want to be jazz Jacob with a trio. 662 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,440 "I don't want to be pop Jacob with a mic. 663 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,680 "I don't want to be rock and roll Jacob at the front. 664 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,080 "I think I need some time to figure it out. 665 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,680 "I'm not sure." 666 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,840 Jacob has always kind of known 667 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,720 what he wants to say yes to and why. 668 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,280 And he said, 669 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,360 "Do you think I really need a manager?" 670 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,040 I said, "I really don't know. Maybe not." 671 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,160 And when that call was made, 672 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,480 Adam said, "Well, Quincy would really like to manage Jacob." 673 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,920 I said, "Would it be possible to be friends first?" 674 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,880 And it's gone down in history 675 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,080 because obviously no-one's going to say no to Quincy Jones! 676 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,680 I wouldn't characterise it as him turning, 677 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,720 you know, working with us down. 678 00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:21,800 I think it was just him being cautious. 679 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:26,400 What I made clear was, "Look, I have so much respect for Quincy, 680 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,960 "but I need to do this on my own." 681 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,480 It was on that call that we made the famous decision 682 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,120 to start off just being friends. 683 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,640 We started helping in every way we could. 684 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,440 And a couple of months later, 685 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,240 Adam had somehow found a way to secure me a gig - 686 00:34:41,240 --> 00:34:42,880 my first-ever gig - 687 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,480 which was opening for Herbie Hancock and Chick Corea 688 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,760 at the Montreux Jazz Festival, summer of 2015. 689 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,360 And, suddenly, I had a direction. 690 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,040 That's the moment when I received a Facebook message 691 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,480 from a man named Ben Bloomberg. 692 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,280 I saw this video. It was Don't You Worry 'Bout A Thing. 693 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,160 And I sent a Facebook message, 694 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,800 saying, "Hey, I think you're really awesome. 695 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,520 "I love to build things. 696 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,240 "If you ever are interested in something to build 697 00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:19,640 "or have any questions about technology, let me know." 698 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,360 As a music and technology innovator, 699 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,680 Ben Bloomberg worked on the MIT Media Lab programme 700 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,520 Opera Of The Future. 701 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:33,520 He also collaborated with pop stars Ariana Grande and Bjork. 702 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,760 The original message that Ben sent to Jacob through Facebook 703 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,560 ended up in Jacob's spam in his email, 704 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,880 and maybe a couple of weeks later, 705 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,320 Jacob happened upon it and forwarded the message to me. 706 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,920 I looked at the message and said, "Oh, man, this guy's from MIT. 707 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,600 "We need to reach out to him." 708 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,240 And then, all of a sudden, I got a message back. 709 00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:59,000 They had been offered a huge performance opportunity, 710 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,720 and it was going to be Jacob's first real performance ever. 711 00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:05,360 I got on Skype with Ben 712 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,640 and I explained this idea I have for a one-man show 713 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,520 where I could be at the centre of a circle of instruments 714 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,760 and I could be somehow playing them all at once, 715 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,800 basically doing what I do at home in stop time, 716 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,000 but doing it in real time. 717 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,400 And also, at the centre of this kind of beast, 718 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,640 I wanted to have this instrument 719 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,520 where I could sing any note and I could play harmonies 720 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,320 and you'd hear my voice singing all the notes of the chords. 721 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,040 I wanted a way to stand on stage and go, "Ah!" 722 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,360 and you'd hear 12 voices come out, basically. 723 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,840 The harmoniser was one of the first things that we thought about. 724 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,760 Jacob would fly to Boston, and in Ben's apartment, 725 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,840 they would create the prototype for a one-of-a-kind harmoniser, 726 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,880 which would accompany Jacob on his first official 727 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,760 Montreux Jazz Festival performance. 728 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,600 Jacob! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 729 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,520 20 years old. 730 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,560 I promise you, you've never seen this before or heard this before. 731 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,880 Never! HE CHUCKLES 732 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:09,920 Merci. 733 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,480 And it was like time stood still a little bit. 734 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,160 It was like, "Well, here we go." 735 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,080 Like, "This is the start of something." 736 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,440 HE HARMONISES 737 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,000 I'm sort of standing there like this... 738 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,040 HE HARMONISES ..playing... 739 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,360 I'm nailing all my musical parts. I mean, that was fine. 740 00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:39,520 But just furtive-looking. 741 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,280 HE HARMONISES 742 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:47,920 I was basically inside my room. 743 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,920 I hadn't left the room yet, you know? 744 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,920 And so... And you were in front of hundreds of...? 3,000 people, yeah. 745 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,560 And, you know, they didn't know... 746 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,520 "Who's this boy in his pyjamas on stage?" You know? 747 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,560 # Don't you worry 'bout a... # 748 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,840 And it was the start of learning how to work with an audience. 749 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,840 # Cos I'll be standing on... # 750 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,680 Jacob also integrated 751 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,600 a specially designed video looping system 752 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,640 for his live performances. 753 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,160 HE HARMONISES 754 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,720 At the time that he performed, I wasn't thinking about his age. 755 00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:24,600 I wanted to hear his music. HE LAUGHS 756 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,000 It was amazing. He's such an amazing talent 757 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,400 and he plays all these instruments - drums... 758 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,240 ..and bass and guitar and percussion. 759 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:46,360 The Montreux gig would ignite Jacob's professional career. 760 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,680 Thank you, Montreux. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 761 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,240 Following this gig in Montreux, I'd sort of gained a little bit 762 00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:58,160 of confidence. "Oh, I think I know what I'm doing. 763 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,040 "I think I'm ready to make an album now." 764 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:08,160 I had this idea on a flight heading back home around that time, 765 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,200 that there was this amazing Beach Boys song called In My Room. 766 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,440 And I always loved that song 767 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,800 and I always felt it's close to my heart 768 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,560 because it's about this world that you make in your room 769 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,200 that's a safe kind of world, 770 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,200 and you can go and you can dream in the room 771 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,800 and you can, you know, "Do my dreaming and my scheming." 772 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,760 It's just a gorgeous tune. 773 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:33,520 # In my room... # 774 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,920 And I thought, "Well, why don't we call the album In My Room, 775 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,720 "and I'll do the song on the album?" 776 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,960 I want to make this album. I just want to do it myself. 777 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,200 For better or worse, I want to do it on my own, 778 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,200 with my own ideas at the heart of it. 779 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,120 And I felt like, really, what I wanted to do was 780 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,200 I wanted the album to represent this world that I've created. 781 00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,040 I came up with this idea for fundraising for the album 782 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,760 that I thought would be pretty fun. 783 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,000 I thought, "Why don't I get people - 784 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,880 "fans - in the world 785 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,600 "to send me little melody clips, 786 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,040 "15 seconds in length, 787 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,720 "of them singing, you know, a song they made up or a song they like 788 00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:14,280 "or improvising or whatever?" And then you pledge, 789 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,760 I think it was $100 for this campaign, 790 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,600 and in return, I'll harmonise your melody 791 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,920 and put it on my social media. 792 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,760 It was a brain wave. 793 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,160 It was one of those ideas that he came up with that just... 794 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,200 ..he just ran with. 795 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,000 # Someday, when I'm awfully low 796 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,480 # And the world is cold 797 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:38,040 # I will feel a glow just thinking of you. # 798 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,600 HE HARMONISES # Someday, when I'm awfully low 799 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,080 # And the world is cold 800 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,760 # I will feel a glow just thinking of you... # 801 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,440 I think I loved the ones that weren't necessarily amazing singers, 802 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,880 but they did something really heartfelt. 803 00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:02,280 # You got to keep it mellow 804 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,920 # Ooh-ooh-ooh. # 805 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,080 And Jacob sort of magnified that 806 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,880 into something that is just really moving to watch. 807 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,120 They're so giving. 808 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:18,080 # You got to keep it mellow Keep it mellow 809 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,160 # Ooh-ooh-ooh Got to keep it mellow... # 810 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,280 In some ways, that's when Jacob's at his strongest, 811 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,520 you know, when he takes something that's ready-made 812 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,640 and he's able to transform it into something completely different, 813 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,480 which can then bring a lot of joy 814 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:31,960 not only to the original creator, 815 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,640 but I think to everyone who listens to it. 816 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,680 It was so cool because it was like solving sudoku puzzles. 817 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,280 It was like, "Oh, today, I'm harmonising this person 818 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,280 "who is singing in a language I don't speak..." 819 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,040 # Vengo del otro lado del charco... # 820 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,480 "..a song I don't know." 821 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:49,480 # Del otro lado del rio Del otro lado del charco. # 822 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,680 # Vengo del otro lado del charco Vengo, charco 823 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,560 # Vengo del otro lado del rio Vengo, rio 824 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,560 BOTH: # Vengo del otro lado del charco. # 825 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,240 Some of them are really challenging. 826 00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:00,440 Like, you know, there was one baby who did one. 827 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,920 Soley May was her name. She was from Iceland. 828 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,280 When you say a baby, how old was she? 829 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,160 She was probably one or two. 830 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:11,240 # Twinkle, twinkle, little star... # 831 00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:15,280 In my mind, really interesting kind of microtonal stuff 832 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,320 was going on cos there was no pitch reference. 833 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,480 It was just free - free from all pitch. 834 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:25,760 # How I wonder what you are. # 835 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:31,520 HE HARMONISES # Twinkle, twinkle, little star... # 836 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:36,760 # How I wonder what you are Wonder what you are 837 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,800 BOTH: # Up above the world 838 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,240 # Chocolate biscuit! # 839 00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:46,440 It was able to transcend so many different barriers. 840 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,600 So, never mind where you were in a world, 841 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,480 who you are in a world, 842 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,160 whether you can just about put a tune together, 843 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,920 whether you're five years old and you're just learning how to sing, 844 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,920 so many people's stories underpin those #IHarmUs. 845 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:07,520 # La-la-la-la-la-la-la, la-la-la, la-la-ah! # 846 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,480 JACOB HARMONISES # La-la-la-la-la-la-la 847 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:14,960 # La-la-la, la-la-ah! # 848 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,200 All right, here we go. Selfie mode. 849 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,560 HE CLEARS HIS THROAT All yours. Take it away. 850 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:29,360 # Swing low, sweet chariot 851 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:34,320 # Coming for to carry me home 852 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:40,360 # Swing low, sweet chariot 853 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:47,880 # Coming for to carry me home. # 854 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,120 APPLAUSE 855 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,960 Wow. Come on. Bring it through. 856 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,640 Outstanding work. You went for that. It was great. 857 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,320 Am I in the wrong profession? 858 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,360 LAUGHTER 859 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,280 # Swing low Swing low 860 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,680 # Sweet chariot Chariot 861 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:10,920 BOTH: # Coming for to carry me home 862 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,840 # Swing low Swing low 863 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,320 # Sweet chariot Chariot 864 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:22,680 # Coming for to carry me 865 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:27,320 # Home Carry me home. # 866 00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:32,560 The #IHarmU enterprise would help Jacob 867 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,040 top up the budget for his first album. 868 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,440 You know, I realise how much work it is to make an album. 869 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,920 I kind of thought about the different kinds of things I wanted 870 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,000 to do. I wanted to incorporate guitars, 871 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,840 which I hadn't really done that much. 872 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,280 I wanted to do a couple of cool a capella moments 873 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,720 cos that was where I come from. 874 00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:53,320 I wanted it to be harmonically weird and have cool rhythms in it. 875 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,640 I mean, really, I just wrote 11 songs. 876 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,080 There's a lot of mixing. 877 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,320 There's a lot of... There's mastering to be done. 878 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:07,960 The final mix of Jacob's new album would take place in LA. 879 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,120 We were trying to find a specific console 880 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,320 that could interface with the software he uses 881 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,680 to produce and record and mixes music with. 882 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,720 It just so happened to be that 883 00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:22,000 Hans Zimmer's studio had that console. 884 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,600 I went to Hans Zimmer's studio in Los Angeles, 885 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,520 and I went there with Ben. 886 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,920 Hans Zimmer is one of Hollywood's most acclaimed film composers. 887 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,320 He worked on six Christopher Nolan films, 888 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,920 including Inception 889 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,960 and the Batman trilogy. 890 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,560 You know, we did three movies - three Batman movies - 891 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,560 and people think, "Oh, it's three movies." 892 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,160 It's not three movies. It's six years of my life. 893 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,440 What I didn't know was that 894 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,560 Quincy Jones had booked my other studio 895 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,760 for Jacob to work at. 896 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,520 And I remember, one day, you know, coming out of my room, 897 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,840 going into the kitchen to make a cup of coffee, 898 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,280 and there was a guy who was just making a cup of tea 899 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,040 and going off into the other studio. 900 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,280 I'm going, "It's really weird, there's this kid here, 901 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,440 "and he looks just like Jacob Collier." 902 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,800 And somebody said, "That IS Jacob Collier." 903 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,320 Now we know how to... 904 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,960 We took the tracks out of Logic, in groups, 905 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,280 and we mixed the album on a console together, 906 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,480 which was really cool. 907 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,240 MUSIC PLAYS Shall we take out some...? 908 00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:38,120 Inevitably, what happened was that Jacob just 909 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,960 turned my studio into his bedroom. 910 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,920 And the front door opens and it's like 911 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,840 Herbie Hancock's coming in, Chick Corea's coming... 912 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,880 I mean, it's like all my heroes, 913 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,760 they're all coming through my studio, not to see me. 914 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,840 They're coming to see Jacob. 915 00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:59,440 Hey! Nice to see you. Thanks for coming. 916 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,880 This stuff is good. 917 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,280 Quincy and Herbie would just come and hang out. 918 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,760 You know, we'd be working on a song, 919 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,600 and Herbie and Quincy would drop by at 4pm, 920 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,840 and they'd stay till the early hours of the morning, 921 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,280 bopping their heads and singing along, 922 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,200 and there'd be a moment in a tune... 923 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,760 There's a chord that's a really unruly chord. 924 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,520 HE SINGS UNRULY CHORD, THEY EXCLAIM 925 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,640 Jacob always surprises me, 926 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,120 always comes up with things I don't expect. 927 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,840 It got to that point where Herbie goes, "Oh! Oh, man! 928 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,960 "Wait, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop." 929 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,920 And we stop, and he's like, "What is that chord?" 930 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,120 And I was like, "Oh, it's this," and he's like, "Oh!" Oh! 931 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,000 D, F sharp, A, C sharp. Oh, OK. 932 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,840 So, he hears that chord and he just can't believe he's heard it? 933 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,480 He just goes, "What? What have you done? What?" 934 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,480 MUSIC PLAYS What?! 935 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,280 What was that? HE LAUGHS 936 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,760 He's never come up with something that I object to. 937 00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:02,880 Maybe just questioning what he had and what he was going to do with it. 938 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,360 By the time he added either the vocal 939 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:10,880 or the instrumental background, it answered my question. 940 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,760 We just have such a nice kind of chemistry, me and Herbie, 941 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,000 cos we both just geek out about the same kind of chords. 942 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,240 D major seventh. D major seventh, yeah. 943 00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:20,720 Cos you get the dominant at the top, but the major seventh... 944 00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:23,560 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that. I love the seventh. 945 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:28,160 It was one of the most magical couple of weeks of my whole life. 946 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,280 He was leaving to go back to London. 947 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,520 He's on his way to the airport and we're talking on the phone. 948 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,480 I think he phoned me to just say thank you 949 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,360 for letting me use the studio. 950 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,640 And right at the end, just before the phone cuts off, 951 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,320 before he has to get out of the cab, I'm going, 952 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,280 "Are you ever interested in doing a movie?" 953 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,120 And he goes, "Yeah, of course." 954 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,480 SHE SCREAMS, LAUGHS 955 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,280 # You can sing what you want... # 956 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,840 Jacob finish mastering his first album 957 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,560 and landed a Hollywood gig with Hans Zimmer 958 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,720 on a new animated feature, Boss Baby. 959 00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:04,120 Oh! # You can do it today... # 960 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,360 Marcos, wait! Where are you? 961 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,840 I think working on music for film is a gorgeous challenge. 962 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,560 In July of 2016, 963 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,880 Jacob's first album, In My Room, was released. 964 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,640 # Take me 965 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,680 # Anywhere you want to go... # 966 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,480 It contained eight original songs and three covers. 967 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,520 # In my hideaway... # 968 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,880 Every instrument on the album, I played, 969 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,560 every arrangement, I put together. 970 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:48,160 # There's a song of love that never dies... # 971 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:55,360 One of the arrangements was for the TV cartoon classic of the '60s... 972 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,000 ..The Flintstones. 973 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,280 # Flintstones Meet the Flintstones... # 974 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,080 # They're a modern stone-age family... # 975 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,080 HE HARMONISES 976 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,680 My album came out and I thought, 977 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,200 "This is what people do, isn't it? 978 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,840 "They have albums that come out and then they go on tour." 979 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:17,360 HE SINGS 980 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,400 With the help of Ben Bloomberg, 981 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,560 the Jacob Collier dream of taking his music room on the road 982 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,080 would become a reality. 983 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,480 # Secrets to... # 984 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,080 It started out with a US tour as just the two of us - 985 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,520 a show every single day in a different city. 986 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,720 It was just me and Ben on the road. 987 00:50:35,720 --> 00:50:40,120 So, Ben was the entirety of the crew and I was the entirety of the band. 988 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,080 # In my room... # 989 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,320 It was completely overwhelming. 990 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,880 Eight checked bags and then three carry-on bags. 991 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:54,080 # Lock out all my... # 992 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,000 And we thought we could never do it again like this. 993 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,120 We're going to... We're not going to make it. 994 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,560 We were so tired and ill at the end of that tour. 995 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,960 You know, we were just wrecked. But so fun. You know, so fun. 996 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,080 So amazing to share these songs that I'd made, and play them for people. 997 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,320 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 998 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:16,720 The world tour would keep Jacob and Ben on the road for months. 999 00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:18,080 Thank you so much. 1000 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,800 One morning, I'm just sleeping on Ben's sofa. 1001 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,920 He wakes me up in the morning and I'm thinking, "What? What? 1002 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,400 "What is it?" And he says, "Dude, 1003 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,840 "you just got nominated for two Grammys." 1004 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,280 And I said, "Really?" And he said, "Yeah!" 1005 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,800 When, you know, it was announced 1006 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,560 that he was nominated for two Grammys, 1007 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,200 I remember screaming 1008 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,880 at the top of my lungs. 1009 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:48,560 You know, the whole team was jumping up and down and celebrating. 1010 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:53,200 And I said, you know, "Is that...? Did that really happen? 1011 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:57,240 "Was it a dream?" And he said, "No, it's genuinely just happened today." 1012 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,560 The two Grammy nominations 1013 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,880 were for the arrangements of You And I by Stevie Wonder, 1014 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,600 and The Flintstones. 1015 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,240 And the Grammy goes to... 1016 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,280 ..Jacob Collier for You And I. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1017 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,520 In his category, Jacob was the youngest Grammy-winner in history. 1018 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,040 Thank you to Mr Quincy Jones, his team Adam Fell and Michael Peha, 1019 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,400 amongst others, who are here tonight. Thank you to my... 1020 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,880 Suddenly, it feels very serious, the whole thing. 1021 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,680 It doesn't feel like just my experiment continues. 1022 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,920 It feels like, "Oh, there's consequence". 1023 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,840 And the night wasn't over. 1024 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,680 And the Grammy Award goes to... He needs to come back out. 1025 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,760 ..once more... He needs to come back out. 1026 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,040 ..Jacob Collier for Flintstones, my friends. 1027 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,920 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1028 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,320 People are watching, you know. 1029 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,040 People who aren't your fans are watching. 1030 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,040 I think it was the first time I'd ever thought that. 1031 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,360 People who aren't Jacob fans 1032 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,720 are paying attention to what Jacob is doing now. 1033 00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:55,760 APPLAUSE 1034 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,760 Shall we do some drums? Yes. OK. 1035 00:52:59,960 --> 00:53:04,480 I never identified with one instrument as being my thing, 1036 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,360 in the same way I did with genre, in a sense. 1037 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,160 I used to sit in this room and think, 1038 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,440 "I don't need anybody. I can do everything on my own." 1039 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,320 But when you really sit and think about it, 1040 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,600 nothing is ever truly isolated, you know? 1041 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,400 Jacob's next album would take on the challenge 1042 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,120 of collaborating with, and composing for, 1043 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,800 a 50-piece orchestra for the first time in his life. 1044 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,720 One, two, three, and... 1045 00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:32,680 ORCHESTRA PLAYS 1046 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,800 I wanted to do something with other people... 1047 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,160 ..because I've done so much on my own for so long. 1048 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,280 I wanted to stretch out and I wanted to collaborate. 1049 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,400 It was the Quincy Jones team who introduced Jacob 1050 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,440 to the Metropole Orchestra and its conductor, Jules Buckley. 1051 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,400 Jules Buckley said he wanted to do, like, 1052 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,600 an orchestral, collaborative project. 1053 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,480 And your mother was performing. She was in the orchestra, yeah. 1054 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,240 We all went to Holland, to Hilversum, and recorded. 1055 00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:08,680 That was my first time writing for orchestra, really. 1056 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,720 I did the orchestration and I wrote it all out on paper. 1057 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,800 This is... This was a whole new world for me. 1058 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,000 You know, I'd never written for orchestra before, 1059 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,200 but to have a piece 1060 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,280 that was being played by an orchestra, 1061 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,560 I wanted to make it really special. 1062 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:31,440 ORCHESTRAL MUSIC PLAYS 1063 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,400 HE HUMS ALONG 1064 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:53,160 Jacob's ambitions would expand into a series of four albums. 1065 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,760 The first would be orchestral, the next acoustic, 1066 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,000 the third would be primarily pop, 1067 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:03,480 and a fourth album is intended to be a synthesis of the previous three. 1068 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,240 So, the world is alive. 1069 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:13,200 In the three volumes released so far of Jacob's ambitious series, 1070 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,400 he collaborates with more than two dozen musicians 1071 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,200 from around the world. 1072 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,320 # Lambo or the double R-Truck Yeah, yeah... # 1073 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,120 On album three, released in 2020, 1074 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,560 Jacob works with an LA-based musician 1075 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,120 and producer, Ty Dolla $ign, 1076 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,800 and UK R&B singer Mahalia. 1077 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,120 # Now that I am sober 1078 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,640 # I take back what I said... # 1079 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,480 Jacob asked me if I wanted to be on one of his songs 1080 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,160 for his next album. 1081 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:47,080 When he called me and asked me, I, like... 1082 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,920 Do you know what? I think my whole experience with Jacob 1083 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,840 has just been a lot of surprises. 1084 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,720 The song is called All I Need. It's from Djesse Vol 3. 1085 00:55:55,720 --> 00:55:58,520 Here now, with help from Mahalia and Ty Dolla $ign, 1086 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,360 Jacob Collier, live from the lavatory. 1087 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,720 I remember Jacob texting me, though, saying, 1088 00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:11,360 "I think I'm going to send this to Ty," 1089 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:15,600 and I said, "Who's Ty?" And he said, "Ty Dolla $ign". 1090 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,880 I didn't know her. I'd heard of her. 1091 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,080 I like her voice, for sure. She's incredible. 1092 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,840 # She got expensive taste, hey... # 1093 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,320 I've collaborated with more than a few artists - 1094 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,800 Nicki Minaj, Ariana Grande, 1095 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,080 Mariah Carey. 1096 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,320 I had so much fun making that song. 1097 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,320 # That you are all I need 1098 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,000 # You are all I need Hey... # 1099 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,280 It was lockdown. 1100 00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,040 It just kind of gave me something to be excited about. 1101 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,680 # You are all I need... # 1102 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,360 Jacob did his part. He sent me what he already had. 1103 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,800 I did exactly what I wanted to do. I sent it back to him. 1104 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,520 # Cos I love your smile and it makes me feel all right... # 1105 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,200 Now, Jacob's set-up was in his bathroom, 1106 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,880 and his bathroom was gorgeous, so I felt a little bit... 1107 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,160 I felt a little bit like I was on... 1108 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,680 Like I had drawn the short straw. 1109 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,440 # Cos every time I think about it Can't stop thinking 'bout it 1110 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,360 # Can't stop thinking... # 1111 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,800 I think I had my mop brush. I think I had a toothbrush. 1112 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,400 # You are all I need... # 1113 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,280 Next thing you know, he sent me the one with Mahalia's vocals on it. 1114 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:19,400 That was incredible. 1115 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,440 # Let your love shine 1116 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,520 # Hey-ey-ey... # 1117 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,920 The video where I appear in the mirror 1118 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,000 and there's that cloud of smoke - 1119 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,720 I think that was just VFX, man, you know. 1120 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,120 HE CHUCKLES # Yeah... # 1121 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:41,960 # You will always be the one for me... # 1122 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:46,440 And he made a couple of changes to it. We dropped it. 1123 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,520 Next thing you know, I think that song's nominated for a Grammy. 1124 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,640 # Let your love shine bright... # 1125 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,240 All I Need was nominated for R&B Song of the Year, 1126 00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:00,480 and the album it was on was up for the ultimate industry award. 1127 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,280 Djesse Vol 3 was actually nominated for Album of the Year. 1128 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,640 That's the biggest honour you can get at the Grammy Awards. 1129 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,680 Musicians really respect other musicians, 1130 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:15,040 no matter, you know, how you look or what you wear. 1131 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:17,680 # Only me... # 1132 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,960 # Well, my friends, the time has come... # 1133 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,040 Jacob would also collaborate 1134 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:33,600 with his all-time favourite harmonising heroes, Take 6. 1135 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:39,000 To me, this was my childhood dream. Take 6 are the boxes. 1136 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,520 That just blow... My mind was blown. 1137 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:45,320 They covered the Lionel Richie track All Night Long. 1138 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,960 Quincy... Yes. 1139 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,600 ..holding the chord symbols. 1140 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,760 ALL: # Party, Karamu 1141 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,280 # Fiesta, forever... # 1142 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,760 Take 6 have been touring the world for more than 30 years... 1143 00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,240 ANNOUNCER: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the stage Take 6! 1144 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:03,720 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1145 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,880 # No, no, no See, I don't have problems... # 1146 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,440 ..and they would perform with Jacob on American TV. 1147 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,280 We were flying home to do this TV show with Jacob. 1148 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,520 We were all preparing for what our parts were. 1149 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,680 Normally, no matter what it is, 1150 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,960 the guys will kind of listen and 1151 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,920 just kind of have their heads back like this. 1152 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,560 When we were preparing for Jacob's, 1153 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,680 everybody was sitting on the flight like this... 1154 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,320 LAUGHTER 1155 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,560 ..listening to their individual part and doing this, 1156 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,480 for hours and hours of their flight. 1157 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,480 He's absolutely brilliant. 1158 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,360 THEY HARMONISE Hold it right there. 1159 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,560 And we actually had a track breakdown 1160 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,320 when we went to Quincy's house the night before we recorded, 1161 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:52,160 and there were 40 or 50 voices that he had to reduce 1162 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,400 for the six of us to be able to sing with him. 1163 00:59:54,400 --> 01:00:03,480 # You and I You and I 1164 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,320 # You and I... # 1165 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:11,840 THEY HARMONISE 1166 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,960 And then, in the thick of producing his series of albums, 1167 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,400 Jacob received the extraordinary honour 1168 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,040 of his own Night at the Proms. 1169 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,680 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1170 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,800 CHEERING 1171 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,320 I had a concert at the BBC Proms in London in 2018 - 1172 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:46,200 my own BBC Prom - which was just an unbelievable thrill. 1173 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,360 It was also a deeply emotional occasion 1174 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,840 for the entire Collier family. 1175 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,360 I love the Proms. I'm a frequent Prommer every summer. 1176 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,600 To see Jacob having a Prom for himself, it was just... 1177 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,040 It was unbelievable, really. 1178 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:05,200 HE HARMONISES 1179 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,920 I remember I was quite nervous for him before. 1180 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,280 When he came on stage, those nerves vanished. 1181 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,200 I could just see he'd be able to do it. 1182 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,200 I grew up in the Albert Hall. I went to Proms every year. 1183 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,400 Suddenly, it went from just Jacob... 1184 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,560 ..to this huge array of people, this huge wave of energy, 1185 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,640 all these different musicians, different styles 1186 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,960 colliding in real time in a physical space, 1187 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,080 and it was extremely exciting. 1188 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,320 I remember the first conversations about Jacob's Prom. 1189 01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,680 He wanted all his idols to be there. 1190 01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:00,000 He didn't want this to be celebrating himself. 1191 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,200 Off the record, it was unbelievably hard to put together 1192 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,920 cos he had so many different artists that he wanted to involve. 1193 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,520 The evening featured a number of Jacob's musical heroes. 1194 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,920 His mum was also in the spotlight. 1195 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,960 I remember just thinking, just before standing up, 1196 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,960 just thinking, 1197 01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,360 "I'm so lucky to be here... 1198 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,440 "..to be part of the orchestra, 1199 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,880 "to see my boy in action and to actually play." 1200 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,360 Jacob also contributed to the orchestration, 1201 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,720 which accompanied his musical guests. 1202 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,560 Mr Hamid El Kasri. 1203 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,880 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1204 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:51,000 HE SINGS 1205 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,000 An extraordinary Moroccan master musician called Hamid El Kasri, 1206 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,400 he actually came to the BBC Prom 1207 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,200 and performed his first ever UK performance. 1208 01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,080 Please welcome to the stage Take 6. 1209 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,240 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1210 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:07,200 When Take 6 began, around '89, '90, right around there, 1211 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,000 we performed at Royal Albert Hall a couple of times, 1212 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,240 and we now, going back years later, on the Proms, 1213 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,600 we realise how big it was and how prestigious it was. 1214 01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:16,960 It was an amazing experience. 1215 01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:21,160 # I really found 1216 01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:24,400 # Someone like you... # 1217 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,160 When we were sitting in the audience 1218 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,360 while we were all preparing for that show 1219 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,040 and watching him perform with Jules Buckley 1220 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,160 and just the Metropole, it was... 1221 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:35,960 It was a wall of sound, 1222 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,840 but it was a blank canvas 1223 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,400 that allowed Jacob to do 1224 01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,440 and to be everything that he was. 1225 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:47,520 # That you will be by my side To see... # 1226 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,200 Everything that he was doing, 1227 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,800 it was almost like it was in his playground. 1228 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,240 He's just a kid having fun. 1229 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:58,560 # My life is through... # 1230 01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:02,560 Somebody said, "Jacob, we've got a little surprise for you." 1231 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:06,680 And they put up the footage of my dear dad 1232 01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,760 playing at the First Night of the Proms. 1233 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,880 NARRATOR: And there he is now, Derek Collier, 1234 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,960 making his first appearance at a Promenade Concert. 1235 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,680 Somebody managed to unearth footage of his grandfather, 1236 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,480 who was the leader, I think, at the Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra, 1237 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,560 and he performed there back in the 1960s. 1238 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,480 It's just the most unbelievable thing. 1239 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,400 Jacob was really bowled over. 1240 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,800 He stood on that stage in 1964, 1241 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,160 and to be there, however many years later - 52 - 1242 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,440 with my own Prom, it felt pretty surreal. 1243 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,280 I wish he could have been at that Prom. 1244 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:52,640 In some ways, he was there. 1245 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,320 After the Prom, we both burst into tears when we saw each other 1246 01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,360 because we both acknowledged the same thing. 1247 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,840 He said, "I just felt Grandpa was really there." 1248 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,680 APPLAUSE 1249 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,520 The audience applauds the performance of Derek Collier. 1250 01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,760 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1251 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,760 It was the most wonderful experience, 1252 01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,040 and I will never, ever forget it. 1253 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,560 What I see in Jacob is the comfort he gets 1254 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,320 and the pleasure he gets 1255 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,200 from exploring this world that he's in. Absolutely. 1256 01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:38,040 And from family. Yes. From being... 1257 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,240 This gives him this anchor - 1258 01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,080 the music room and you and his sisters. 1259 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:49,040 He derives a lot from his family and his home around him, 1260 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:52,120 but I can tell you that he gives back in spades. 1261 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,800 He will move out, at some point, I'm sure, 1262 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,080 but at the moment, because he travels the world so much, 1263 01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,520 and so much of the year, it's quite a treat 1264 01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,240 just to come back to London and just come back to this place. 1265 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,840 And, boy, we really love seeing him, as well. 1266 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:13,080 # Come alive, come alive Come alive for me... # 1267 01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,360 I made this last night. It's a new idea. 1268 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,360 This year, I found, sitting down to make music, 1269 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,000 it's never felt... 1270 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,000 It's never felt as pressurised as this before. 1271 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,320 Rather than thinking, "Oh, I'm just going to do 1272 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,800 "the next thing I'm interested in," there's a lot of kind of 1273 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,120 low-hanging fruit that seems really appealing. 1274 01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,440 Like, "Just do this, this, this, this, and you could be..." 1275 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:34,760 And you can just take off. 1276 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:39,440 The pressure from our end is for him to be true to himself, 1277 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:44,520 to continue to follow his heart's dreams. 1278 01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,040 Now, finally, I have to look at these, 1279 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:48,680 don't you think? 1280 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,240 These are they. These are the five Grammys. 1281 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,080 These are some Grammys, and they each have a different tone. Look. 1282 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:58,120 GRAMMYS CHIME METALLICALLY 1283 01:06:58,120 --> 01:06:59,520 Isn't that lovely? 1284 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,760 The only thing I've ever really cared about creatively 1285 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,680 is to sustain the curiosity 1286 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,760 that I've always had throughout my whole life. 1287 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:10,720 There's a whole bunch of inspiration within him he hasn't... 1288 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,040 ..he doesn't even know about yet. 1289 01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,800 He can do anything, so what do you do? 1290 01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:17,640 And I feel like the best thing to choose 1291 01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,040 is the thing that really resonates with your soul. 1292 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,400 # You've got a friend... # 1293 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:28,560 Jacob... 1294 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,240 THEY CHUCKLE 1295 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,720 ..I want to ask you 1296 01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,240 about the future. Hmm. 1297 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,200 What about the long-term future? Where do you see yourself? 1298 01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:48,320 Creatively, nothing really scares me, 1299 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,320 but I do think that the amount that's possible, 1300 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,560 sometimes, is intimidating. 1301 01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,440 I call it creative infinity syndrome. 1302 01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,800 He should have no bounds, as in, he should forever be genreless, 1303 01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,600 he should forever be defiant, 1304 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,480 he should always just be a maverick. 1305 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,400 You know, honestly, I feel like 1306 01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,680 the music will always give me the answers that I need. 1307 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:13,040 And, sometimes, when I feel a bit doubtful or a bit lost 1308 01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,600 or a bit confused or a bit aimless, 1309 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,320 which I do all the time, to be honest - I'm a human - 1310 01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,200 sometimes, the music just says, "You know what? 1311 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:21,520 "We're going to go here now." 1312 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:25,080 # Cos I'll be standing on the side when you check... # 1313 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,080 And did you hear from Stevie Wonder at all? 1314 01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,400 JACOB CHUCKLES I managed to meet him. 1315 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,400 I shook his hand. He was like, "Yeah, what's your name, man?" 1316 01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,160 And I said, "Oh, my name's Jacob - Jacob Collier." 1317 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,640 And he said, "Oh, yeah, you did that version of 1318 01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,400 "Don't You Worry 'Bout A Thing, right?" 1319 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,200 I said, "Yeah, I did, Stevie. I did." 1320 01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:46,800 And he said, "Oh, it's great. It's fantastic. I loved it." 1321 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,320 And my life was made at that moment. 1322 01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:53,440 That meeting, I'll never forget it as long as I live. 1323 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,400 I think this room will always be quite sacred for me. 1324 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,840 And even when I'm not in here, 1325 01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,400 I think the spirit of it and the groundedness of it 1326 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,960 is something that I love to carry with me wherever I go, 1327 01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,640 whether it's on stage or recording other people 1328 01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,120 or just travelling and living some life, you know? 1329 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,920 I feel so much gratitude for the people around me - 1330 01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,800 my family and my friends and the team. 1331 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:29,080 And I'm sure I'll travel all over the world in the next few years, 1332 01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:33,480 and I'll be touring and recording and learning and sponging things up, 1333 01:09:33,480 --> 01:09:35,480 but it's always a privilege to come back here 1334 01:09:35,480 --> 01:09:37,800 to my original family home 1335 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,600 and to kind of lay down my materials and have a bit of a rest 1336 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,080 and then think, "Well, now what?" 1337 01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:08,560 They're calling me now. 1338 01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,880 Just as we were calling it a wrap, 1339 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:14,560 Jacob received a phone call from the Quincy Jones team. 1340 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,960 He had been nominated for two more Grammys. 1341 01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,640 Yo! ON PHONE: You just got nominated for R&B Song. 1342 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,200 Oh, what?! R&B Song. Oh...! Are you...? 1343 01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,840 You just got nominated. There's two now? 1344 01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,200 So, what's the Grammy for? I just got two... 1345 01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,080 Well, it's coming in now, but I just got two Grammy nominations. 1346 01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,800 Oh, wait, I want to watch this! Guys, you're on camera. 1347 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,080 We're filming a documentary right now. 1348 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:38,880 It's on a YouTube stream. 1349 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:40,400 Oh, wow! 108794

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