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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,240 During the Cold War, 2 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,200 both the United States and the Soviet Union 3 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,160 deployed submarines with ballistic missiles. 4 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,280 The K-129 was a Soviet ballistic missile submarine. 5 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,440 The submarine sank. 6 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,800 To find a sub in the ocean 7 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,280 is like looking for a needle in a haystack. 8 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,400 It would be a remarkable treasure, 9 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,080 uh, to be able to get your hands on a Soviet submarine. 10 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,280 And so that's what we set out to do. 11 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,360 The CIA needs a cover story. 12 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,000 They go to Howard Hughes, multibillionaire. 13 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,280 "Build a ship that can salvage 14 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,080 a Soviet submarine with a nuclear missile." 15 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,120 Howard Hughes says, "Okay." 16 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,000 A submarine at 16,000 feet? 17 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,640 It was just unprecedented to even think about 18 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,960 undertaking something that ambitious 19 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,920 and to do it in secrecy. 20 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,440 This was more complex, 21 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,960 in some respects, than going to the moon. 22 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:26,480 I joined the CIA in, uh, June 1966. 23 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,280 My first assignment was 24 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,120 at the National Photographic Interpretation Center. 25 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,840 I became kind of an expert in that. 26 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,840 The Cold War was essentially a competition 27 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:48,600 between the Soviet Union and the United States. 28 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,160 Essentially, conflict between democracy, 29 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,160 capitalism, and socialism. 30 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,000 Well, during the Cold War, 31 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:02,040 the United States developed what they called a "Triad Response" 32 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,080 to the foreign threat. 33 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:10,560 The triad consisted of submarines, submarine-launched ballistic missiles, 34 00:03:10,640 --> 00:03:12,920 and aircraft to deliver weapons. 35 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,240 Fortunately, no one pushed the button, 36 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,040 but it was a very tense period. 37 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,400 {\an8}The US and the Soviet Union routinely spied on one another. 38 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:34,480 The main object was to monitor the activities of Soviet submarines, 39 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,040 to determine what their capabilities are, where they were headed, 40 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,720 'cause that was important to track Soviet submarines, 41 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,400 uh, in the event of a nuclear exchange. 42 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,400 Almost three quarters of the Earth's surface is covered with water, 43 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,160 and America's two newest states, 44 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,400 Alaska and Hawaii, are thrust deeply into the Pacific. 45 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:57,520 And most important, 46 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,120 the most powerful nations in the world border the oceans and the seas. 47 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,200 This global disposition of land and water 48 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,480 may be likened to a gigantic chess board, 49 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,560 where play many strategies and many weapons. 50 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,800 The Soviet program, naval program, was very aggressive. 51 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,760 At the time, they were building both surface ships as well as submarines. 52 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,080 With the development of the nuclear weapon, 53 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,360 both countries then began to think about, 54 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:36,960 "Well, where can you deploy your missiles that would carry a nuclear warhead?" 55 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:42,120 This was a highly classified program within the Soviet Union. 56 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,280 And this question still remained, 57 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,120 what was the nuclear capability from a submarine-launched missile? 58 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:49,920 We didn't know that. 59 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,000 {\an8}I'm Captain First Class Igor Kurdin. 60 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,880 For 25 years, I had served in the Russian Submarine Fleet. 61 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:09,640 It became clear that one of the main components of war at sea 62 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:17,000 must be the submarines with nuclear ballistic missiles. 63 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:23,560 Golf-class submarines turned out to be very successful, 64 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,120 so we built 24 of them. 65 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,840 This was a thermonuclear unit 66 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,280 with a missile range of 880 miles. 67 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:42,440 The K-129 was a modernized submarine, 68 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,440 which was armed 69 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,120 with a set of three ballistic missiles 70 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:55,280 with a load of more than one megaton. 71 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:01,120 And the most important thing, as a result of modernization, 72 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,560 was that these missiles could fire underwater. 73 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:11,560 From the depth of 150 feet, very quickly, 74 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:16,720 a submarine could release its three ballistic missiles. 75 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,160 Both the Soviet Union and United States 76 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,680 were interested in where each other's submarines are. 77 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,720 Soviet Union launched their missiles submerged 78 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,080 and had their engines running out of the tubes, 79 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,400 and we considered this extremely dangerous. 80 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,080 K-129 submarine departed Petropavlovsk 81 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,000 and steamed towards the West Coast of the United States. 82 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,960 {\an8}Its mission was to go on patrol 83 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,360 {\an8}and to take up station at a position 84 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,720 in the event of a nuclear exchange with the United States. 85 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,760 The task of the K-129 86 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,720 is to stay in an area 87 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,880 that permits firing at more than one target. 88 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,280 For example, San Francisco, 89 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:24,280 but also other targets on the US territory. 90 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,440 If there are military objects, 91 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:31,440 the more targets that are within 92 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,480 the K-129 missile range, the better. 93 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,240 {\an8}I am the son of Dr. Cherepanov. 94 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,760 {\an8}My father, captain third class, 95 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,600 {\an8}was major of medical services on the K-129 submarine. 96 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,120 I was ten years old at the time. 97 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,600 My father wasn't supposed to be deployed on this mission. 98 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,080 It was coincidence. It was decided by chance. 99 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,000 Father, of course, knew the whole crew. 100 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,320 This crew was his crew, his commander. 101 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,560 And I knew many of these people. 102 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:09,280 This deployment was supposed to be his last deployment, his last sea voyage. 103 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:23,200 K-129 was on full radio silence mode. 104 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,560 But it was supposed to send control reports 105 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,800 when it arrived at control points. 106 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:37,919 When we didn't receive the control radio dispatch from K-129, 107 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:43,360 the Navy command, and especially the Pacific Ocean Fleet command, 108 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:50,080 rolled out a search operation, including search boats and airplanes. 109 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,640 They immediately started sending out aircraft, submarines, 110 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,280 and surface ships to look for the submarine. 111 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:04,160 They knew the approximate area for the K-129, but not an exact position. 112 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,280 This search continued. Unfortunately, there were no results. 113 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,440 There was no official statement acknowledging 114 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:19,960 the loss of the submarine and death of 98 members of its crew. 115 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:24,640 They just told them that they died while fulfilling their military duty. 116 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,360 What tipped US intelligence was the Soviet search, a massive search. 117 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,760 US watchers couldn't miss it, but the trick was to locate the sub. 118 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,760 And for that, the United States used its underwater surveillance system 119 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,280 that was run by both the Navy and the Air Force 120 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,960 that was designed to track the movements of Soviet subs, 121 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:53,120 but also from the Air Force's perspective, to track Soviet missiles. 122 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,200 When it had its accident, 123 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,160 it created a very strong acoustic signature 124 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:04,880 that was picked up by the underwater surveillance network 125 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,800 that we had set up around the world, 126 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,080 both in the Pacific and the Atlantic Ocean, 127 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,680 where we could follow the movement of the submarines. 128 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,400 The US was able to triangulate that data 129 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,680 to locate very precisely the remains of the K-129. 130 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,320 The Navy's response 131 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,000 was to use one of its specially configured submarines, 132 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,760 the USS Halibut, to go and photograph the debris on the bottom. 133 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,680 The USS Halibut returned with thousands of photographs. 134 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,760 They showed the K-129, where it was, 135 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,640 and in a recoverable condition and position. 136 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:53,240 They wanted to see if there was any imagery looking down 137 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,360 towards one of the open missile tubes, 138 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,760 to see if there was still a missile or warhead, 139 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,520 and they were looking for an object that was approximately 140 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,840 three miles below the surface. 141 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,880 I was allowed to see the photography 142 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,720 because my responsibility was to try to see it better. 143 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,000 I was fascinated by the photography. 144 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,880 It was my first time ever looking at something like that. 145 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,720 It was really very captivating. 146 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,960 I wrote a report about that, basically saying, 147 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,560 "There is probably a missile in that tube." 148 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,680 It was very, very sensitive. 149 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,760 Henry Kissinger, advisor to the president, 150 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,000 sees the photographs, says, 151 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,200 "I want the nuclear warhead on that third missile." 152 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:51,280 Initially, the task of devising a plan to recover the K-129 153 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,200 was given to the US Navy. 154 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,560 And the Navy developed a plan, 155 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,360 but that plan was thought not to be feasible. 156 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,240 And so, in 1969, the job was given instead to the CIA. 157 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,880 John Parangosky, a career CIA officer, 158 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,840 was asked to assemble a team to do that, 159 00:12:14,680 --> 00:12:19,320 and he became what we call the "Program Manager" for the project, 160 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,720 which was given the name "Azorian." 161 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,560 The objective of Project Azorian 162 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:31,000 was to raise the targeted portion of the K-129 163 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,960 in order to recover the valuable items thought to be on board, 164 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:41,720 which included nuclear warheads and missiles and cryptographic gear. 165 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,640 Studying nuclear weapons had always been 166 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,120 the first and foremost intelligence task. 167 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,040 Second, they could gain 168 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:58,680 secret codes for radio connections, 169 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,280 including using a fast-acting system. 170 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,920 All the secret codes. 171 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:12,840 They could read these secret documents, these telegrams, 172 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:17,120 and put together quite a good idea 173 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,560 about our Navy fleet tactics, especially for the submarines. 174 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,200 The K-129 was a warship. 175 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,440 Recovering a warship is illegal under international law. 176 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,680 It was a highly risky operation. 177 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,520 CIA go to a company called Global Marine. 178 00:13:42,680 --> 00:13:47,040 Global Marine builds ships to do ocean floor drilling, 179 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,120 drilling for oil on the ocean floor. 180 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,520 The objective of the CIA was to recover the K-129. 181 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,960 It required hundreds, thousands of people to do that, 182 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,160 and the development of huge, enormous technology. 183 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:08,160 And so the cover story that the CIA selected in 1969 184 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,800 was to hide that undertaking in plain sight 185 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,080 under cover of a deepwater ocean mining operation. 186 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,960 And to front the operation, the CIA selected Howard Hughes. 187 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,840 He has a pre-existing relationship with the US intelligence agency. 188 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,880 He had been a defense contractor for years, 189 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,560 but according to declassified documents, 190 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:38,000 that included providing cover arrangements for CIA people working overseas. 191 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,280 And the thinking was, well, only one person, Howard Hughes, 192 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,040 an eccentric, was thought to be crazy enough 193 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,360 to undertake something, 194 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,800 deep ocean mining, an industry that didn't exist at the time. 195 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,600 That immediately focused so much publicity. 196 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,240 Here there were headlines in newspapers, 197 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,240 "Howard Hughes starts seafloor mining." 198 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,320 Fantastic. 199 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,640 It was a brilliant cover story, and it worked. 200 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:15,640 I was involved with the Glomar Explorer from its inception until it finished, 201 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,480 from 1970 to 1975. 202 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,120 It was a challenge. Us engineers love challenges, 203 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,040 so it was something I looked forward to getting involved with. 204 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,560 We built a ship. It ended up 600 feet long, 205 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,440 weighed 63,000 tons. 206 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,240 Was a lot of things to do other than just build a ship. 207 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,880 They had to build a capture vehicle. 208 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,400 They had to make sure that the materials 209 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,480 that were used in the capture vehicle were strong enough. 210 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:49,840 In metallurgy, there's a trade-off between the ability of something to bend 211 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,480 and its ability to be strong at the limit. 212 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,520 Below deck was really where the action was, 213 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,000 and included an enormous moon pool, 214 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,040 which housed the capture vehicle 215 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,320 that was designed to go down three miles to collect the sub, 216 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:12,080 and then, presumably, would house the sub itself when it was recovered. 217 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,080 Once the ship was completed, 218 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,560 it left Philadelphia and actually had to sail down 219 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,360 and go through the Straits of Magellan to get to Long Beach, its home port. 220 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,040 The ship arrived from Pennsylvania to Long Beach. 221 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:38,040 Strangely, a dock right next to Hughes' flying boat. 222 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,760 So that made perfect sense. 223 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,320 Howard Hughes was selected for a lot of reasons. 224 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,520 His company, Hughes Tool, was privately owned. 225 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,600 There were no stockholders to answer to, 226 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,840 no Securities and Exchange Commission reports to file. 227 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,040 And so it was a perfect black box. 228 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:04,320 But nighttime burglary at a Hughes-owned warehouse in Los Angeles took place. 229 00:17:06,120 --> 00:17:11,040 The burglars reportedly stole thousands of dollars in valuables, 230 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,280 but mostly papers. 231 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,960 Those papers included a memo 232 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:21,079 that was written by a Hughes aide in 1970, 233 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:24,560 and this aide explained to Hughes via this memo 234 00:17:25,079 --> 00:17:29,720 that the CIA had approached Hughes to raise a Soviet sub, 235 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,720 and explaining exactly what the CIA wanted from Hughes, 236 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,560 and what the operation was and asking for Hughes' approval. 237 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,360 The CIA and Colby were concerned about the memo, 238 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,640 because if it would continue to go missing, 239 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,840 that the program, the cover will be blown. 240 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,040 The location of the target was in the North Pacific Ocean. 241 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:02,960 The operation itself had to be conducted at a time of the year 242 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,960 when the ocean was most calm. 243 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,080 As soon as the Glomar Explorer reached the area, 244 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,920 the Soviets immediately became suspicious. 245 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,240 They sent a ship to observe. 246 00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:22,520 It was very foggy. 247 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,600 We couldn't see anything, and as it got lighter and lighter 248 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,280 as fog started to burn off, we saw this beautiful, white ship 249 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:31,280 with a bunch of radomes on it. 250 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,920 We then identified it as the Chazhma, a Russian ship, 251 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,200 and it was evidently holding station with us. 252 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,480 They opened the doors in the back of the ship, 253 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,040 and out comes this little helicopter. 254 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,880 The Glomar Explorer had a helicopter pad. 255 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,400 The last thing they wanted was the Soviet helicopter landing, 256 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,720 so they immediately took boxes, packing gear, anything they could find, 257 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,480 filled up the helicopter deck on the Glomar 258 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,960 so that the Soviet helicopter could not land. 259 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,240 The ship was mostly unarmed. 260 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,600 It was unescorted, and it was alone in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. 261 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,480 Ostensibly, a commercial ship. 262 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,560 And the fact that there were Soviet vessels hovering nearby, 263 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,440 many crew members certainly did feel that they were vulnerable. 264 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,800 One concern was that the Soviets were unpredictable, 265 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,280 especially some of their ship operators, 266 00:19:28,360 --> 00:19:31,520 and it was possible that they could decide to 267 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,280 "accidentally," in quotes, ram the ship. 268 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,200 The Soviet Union was very interested in the ship. 269 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,520 The cover was a mining vehicle deployment. 270 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,920 Therefore, they would assume that's what it was 271 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,600 and not feel like it was any kind of a threat. 272 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,280 They came to the conclusion that the Glomar Explorer 273 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:54,120 was performing deepwater work, 274 00:19:54,200 --> 00:20:00,480 with the purpose of mining some useful fossils or crude oil, 275 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,400 which they reported to the command and left that area very fast. 276 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:11,320 At this point, there was no belief that the Russians were aware of... 277 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,880 The mining activity seemed to have held fine. 278 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,920 And then this tugboat came up. 279 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,960 It was a tug, but it was a Russian Navy tug. 280 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,280 Didn't look like it was any threat other than getting in our way, 281 00:20:26,360 --> 00:20:29,920 which it did a few times, just to harass us. 282 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,080 Then they'd come by every few days, 283 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,600 and come real close again, see if we were doing anything. 284 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:41,920 We didn't open the gates and lower the rig until they parked, 285 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,800 and they hung all around us the whole time that we went down. 286 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,880 The claw, which was named Clementine, 287 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,840 had cameras mounted on it, and lights, 288 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:58,200 so they were able to monitor exactly what was happening. 289 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,400 So, Clementine makes its way down. 290 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,440 Folks were hopeful that they would succeed. 291 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,640 When we went to pick up the sub, 292 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,240 everything was going well. 293 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,640 The claws went under the submarine into the ocean floor. 294 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,160 The bottom was harder than they anticipated. 295 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,440 Then they called us 296 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,920 and told us to take over control for lifting it to the surface. 297 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,760 So there was a high level of anxiety. 298 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,480 "If we get the submarine into our ship, what do we have?" 299 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,240 Key question was radiation. 300 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,440 The submarine had three nuclear missiles, 301 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,120 two nuclear torpedoes. 302 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,760 They had been under pressure at 16,000 feet for a couple of years, 303 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,120 plus the salt water. 304 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:09,480 What was the effect of that environment on a nuclear warhead? 305 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,000 No one knew, 306 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:16,360 especially because we didn't know that much about Soviet nuclear warheads. 307 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,280 There were individuals on board 308 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,440 that were demolitions experts and defusing experts, 309 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,880 that were trained to make sure that the weapons, 310 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,800 if there were any recovered, did not explode. 311 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,080 One morning, we were in the mess room. 312 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,160 I was having a meeting with my guys, and I felt this little shake, 313 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,920 like a small earthquake, 314 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,960 or a barge or something bumping the side of us. 315 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,480 Something had gone wrong, we knew instantly. 316 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,800 I went to the heavy lift control room. They said, "Fine here." 317 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,080 Then someone realized, "Oh wait, those are old images," 318 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,560 and somebody pressed the refresh button, and then they realized, 319 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,200 "Oh, part of the submarine has broken away." 320 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:14,600 We had 12 cameras on the capture vehicle, and they were multiplexed. 321 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,440 {\an8}We could then read the weight that we had left on the thing, 322 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,440 {\an8}and we had lost about a thousand tons. 323 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,560 We had lost the major part of the submarine that we were after, 324 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,200 the one with the missiles, 325 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:34,640 but we still had about a 40-foot-long section of the bow, 326 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,040 so we just kept coming with the pipe. 327 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,680 And then the Russian naval vessel 328 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,600 blew their whistle three times, 329 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,520 which is the maritime farewell, and sailed away. 330 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,400 All they got into the Glomar Explorer was 38 feet. 331 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,760 The ballistic missile that Kissinger wanted 332 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,280 fell to the ocean floor 333 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,240 with that other section of the submarine. 334 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:07,000 You had a success and a failure at the same time. 335 00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:09,520 What was aboard the sub, 336 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,200 what did US experts believe was aboard the sub, 337 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,400 that information has been declassified. 338 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,240 What they recovered, that has not been. 339 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:22,240 We had trained to take things apart 340 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,400 and categorize them, dry things out. 341 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,520 They did find parts of six bodies. 342 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,680 These bodies were recovered, 343 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,400 removed from the submarine, 344 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,320 buried at sea, in the location of the Glomar Explorer. 345 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:55,560 This service is being conducted to honor Viktor Lokhov, 346 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,840 Vadim Kostyushko, Valentin Nosachev, 347 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,560 and three other unidentified Soviet submariners 348 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,520 who perished in March 1968 in the North Pacific Ocean. 349 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,680 CIA officers prepared to bury those remains 350 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,520 in accord with the Geneva Conventions 351 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,560 and to do so in a respectful way 352 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,880 in case the Soviets ever asked a question, 353 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,680 'cause this was, again, a very high-stakes operation. 354 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,200 And so you wanted to bury the remains in a way that would be respectful 355 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,440 and follow the conventions, um, 356 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,040 to answer any concerns that the Soviets might have. 357 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,880 Yes, I've seen the video. 358 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,400 {\an8}And the only thing I regret 359 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,080 {\an8}is that it was done by American sailors. 360 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,400 The exploitation, then, 361 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,760 of the third of the submarine started immediately. 362 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,720 After a covert operation of this magnitude and type, 363 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,960 there's always the question about, "Well, was it worth it?" 364 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,000 "Did we get anything of any particular value?" 365 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,200 Definitely, the result of Operation Azorian, 366 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,640 for the American fleet, was of great importance. 367 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,880 Probably helped them discover 368 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:34,640 the technology behind Russian submarines. 369 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,600 Immediately after the Glomar Explorer returned to the United States, 370 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,720 the CIA began planning to go back with the Glomar Explorer 371 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,360 and recover that section of the submarine that had broken off, 372 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,680 pick it up, to get the nuclear warhead from that third missile. 373 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,320 Project started immediately. 374 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,480 They took photographs of the ocean floor, 375 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,760 of what that part of the submarine looked like, 376 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,400 so schedules were made up. 377 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,240 It was going to be a very successful mission, 378 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,800 and everyone was very enthusiastic about going after the piece that dropped. 379 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,360 It was called "Matador." 380 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,080 The cost factors were such 381 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:30,120 that the agency went back to Henry Kissinger for confirmation 382 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,280 that the project should continue, 383 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:36,840 and that was revalidated by Mr. Kissinger saying, 384 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,280 "Yes, we think this project is worth the cost." 385 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:45,800 But in early February 1975, 386 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:51,920 the LA Times leaked a story about the Hughes-CIA connection, 387 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,240 and the fact that it was going after a sunken submarine. 388 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:01,280 The reason that it blew had to do with events that took place months earlier, 389 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:06,720 uh, when a burglary at a Hughes-owned warehouse in Los Angeles took place. 390 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,640 That investigation leaks, 391 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,320 and in February of 1975, 392 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,120 two local beat reporters for the Los Angeles Times 393 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:26,120 publish the first garbled account of the project. 394 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,160 The CIA was to silence the press 395 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,520 in hopes that the US could still continue the operation. 396 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,400 Seymour Hersh follows up with a credible account 397 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,400 on the front page of the New York Times the next morning, May 19th. 398 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,320 So at this point, the operation is fully blown. 399 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,600 Soon as that happened, within ten days or so 400 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,800 of that newspaper hitting the newsstands, 401 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,520 the Soviets put a ship out at the spot where the Glomar had been operating 402 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,960 and just circled the area, making sure that no one else came back. 403 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,800 President Ford said, "Okay." 404 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,000 "Based on that, we're not going to go back." 405 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:07,840 And we didn't. 406 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,480 So that's how it got terminated and why. 407 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,760 There are still a lot of mysteries 408 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,400 regarding the Azorian Project, things we don't know. 409 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,040 One of them is regarding what, exactly, the US hauled up, 410 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,720 and that information has still not been declassified. 411 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,160 The best source on this 412 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,560 is a French edition of William Colby's memoirs... 413 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:27,880 30 YEARS OF CIA 414 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,080 ...which were published beyond the reach of CIA censors. 415 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,000 And according to that, 416 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,360 the US did not recover the full targeted section of the sub. 417 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,640 There are three nuclear missile warheads on the bottom of the North Pacific. 418 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,240 One of them is intact. 419 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,360 Has anyone gone back? No. 420 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,000 The CIA would never comment on it. 421 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,440 It was a secret of all secrets. 422 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,600 The response that was developed 423 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:03,120 to requests for information about Project Azorian 424 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,800 was to neither confirm nor deny those reports. 425 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,560 And that language, "neither confirm nor deny," 426 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,640 has become part of our culture today. 427 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:15,280 It's one of the major, um, legacies of the Azorian Project, 428 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,840 which became known as the "Glomar Response" 429 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,280 that the US government has used for years. 430 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,160 The first tweet from the CIA account was, cheekily enough, 431 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,000 "We can neither confirm nor deny this is our first tweet." 432 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,800 There are a lot of theories as to what happened to the K-129. 433 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,800 That it went rogue, and some tried to detonate a nuclear device on board, 434 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,000 um, but what we do know 435 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,160 is that it suffered some kind of an internal explosion, uh, and sank. 436 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,920 The most realistic version 437 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,840 is the one I was told 438 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,080 by an American officer from a surface ship. 439 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:59,560 That the K-129, under the periscope, 440 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,360 was in shallow depth for an underwater diesel operation 441 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,200 and was unintentionally hit by a surface ship, the American destroyer. 442 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:17,120 The destruction of the submarine itself was so fast, 443 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:24,600 there was no time for them to send an emergency signal. 444 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,480 Many critics felt that Azorian was scandalous. 445 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,960 It was a high-cost operation. 446 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,320 The exact figure remains classified today. 447 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,520 Estimates are approximately $350 million and up, 448 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,680 and that was a large figure at the time. 449 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,800 One of the costlier US collection efforts in intelligence history, 450 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,760 so there was a cost factor. 451 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,360 But the other thing had to do with the target itself. 452 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,680 By 1975, the K-129 453 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,840 was an older vessel. 454 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,680 It was really a historical relic, 455 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,960 and many questioned whether this was a wise investment. 456 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,560 Was the Glomar Explorer, Project Azorian, a failure? 457 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,960 No, it was not a failure. 458 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:21,920 We did it. 459 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,520 Was it successful? 460 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,520 Only partially. 461 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,840 It failed to obtain that nuclear warhead. 462 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:37,560 Glomar Explorer was laid up, mothballed, in California, Suisun Bay, 463 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,800 for about 20 years. 464 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,120 Now, the ship's getting old and outdated, and sold it for scrap. 465 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:46,640 It's gone. 466 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:57,920 I have heard people compare the Glomar Explorer to going to the moon, 467 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,000 and to me, 468 00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:02,080 that's pretty fantastic as well. 469 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,160 And there were certainly challenges. 470 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,200 I can't really compare them. Uh... 471 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,920 It'd be nice to think that it was that way as being personally involved, 472 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,720 but my ego won't let me go that far. 40617

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