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That way he's standing,
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I mean, it looks like it's higher, right?
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'Cause you do that from the second rope.
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Boom!
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This job to me is the greatest
life that I could ever live.
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For years people told me I was too small,
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that I couldn't do this
and I couldn't do that
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and I wasn't going to make it.
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And I've shoved it in everybody's face.
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No timeโouts in this, man.
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I realize I can't be popular
with everybody all the time.
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So in the meantime, I'm
going to be popular with me,
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and I'm going to be the best.
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โ There are definitely two
lives of Shawn Michaels.
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You know, there's who he was before...
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โ You will not ever in your lives
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see a man more charismatic,
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more flamboyant, or more talented
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than the Heartbreak Kid Shawn Michaels.
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โ The greatest inโring performer of all time.
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Being a prick comes natural to Shawn.
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It did. He was a dick.
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โ The showstopper, the
headliner, the main event.
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โ There was so much bad blood between us,
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and I was always like,
"If I see him, I'll kill him."
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I had so much anger about it.
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โ Nobody steals my spotlight. I want it all.
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โ Shawn Michaels could
do absolutely anything,
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any style to perfection with anyone.
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When the bell rings, no
one is as good as Shawn.
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โ I will give you a show
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like you have never ever seen before.
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Why? Because I can.
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โ The only man to win every major title.
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โ You can't say anybody
was better, but also tormented.
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He was, like, on selfโdestruct mode.
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โ I just knew that he didn't love himself.
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There was something in him that he despised.
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โ If you're taking pain
pills at 12 in the afternoon,
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belligerent, falling down, staggering,
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everything that you
have in your life is this.
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And it's all going away.
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โ On more than one occasion,
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I really wanted to beat
the hell out of Shawn,
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but I knew there was a good man
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behind all this other crap.
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โ The biggest thing that he ever did
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is turning his life around
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to where he is now.
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โ And so, yep, there are two lives there.
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But there's one Shawn Michaels.
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โ The very best sports
entertainer in the world.
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โ I love it. I say this. I say weโโagainโโ
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Vince used to always tell me
"You go all the way out there,
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I'll reel you back in if I want to,"
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you know what I mean?
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โ NXT started out as a developmental brand
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that grooms WWE superstars.
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โ Any kind of count up, DQ,
or whatever ends the match.
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โ There's Shawn's fingerprints
in almost every talent in NXT.
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Shawn is very hands on.
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โ Then he sits up behind him and then whack!
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โ He sold out arenas all around the world
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when he was the Heartbreak Kid.
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He's in a different place in his life now.
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He's humble, he wants
to be behind the scenes.
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It isn't about him.
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He wants to help others achieve their dreams.
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You've got to say it with passion and anger.
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โ Here we go, guys, three, two, one.
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โ Seeing Shawn today,
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it's sometimes hard for people to believe
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that's Shawn Michaels.
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Certain levels of talent
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command certain levels of respect.
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โ Just attack of Johnny Gargano.
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โ Oh, jeez.
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โ I added the plexiglass.
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โ His knowledge and his
wisdom of the business
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and all that stuff, it's so valuable.
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So excellent job. Yeah, go, you got this.
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โ Shawn Michaels' life is a story
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that a lot of people could relate to.
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He always wanted more.
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It was a life of never enough.
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And then, his life totally changes.
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A lot of us have that, if we're lucky.
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I think the Shawn Michaels
story is one that's really cool
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and one that all of us
can stand to learn from.
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โ I was born into a military family.
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My father was in the Air Force.
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It was Michael Shawn Hickenbottom,
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but everybody in my family called me Shawn.
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My father was a pilot, so
early on we moved a lot.
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He was going to Vietnam.
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We went to England, then Maryland
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and then we moved to Texas.
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I was about eightโish.
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From that point on, I
was in the state of Texas.
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You don't have longโlasting
friendships in the Air Force.
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The hardest part for making friends
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was having the last name.
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The roll call, Hickenbottom,
Michael Hickenbottom.
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You could hear the
snickers all over the room.
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Hickenbottom. And, of course...
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It's like, "Son of a biscuit,
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I wish I had a different last name."
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โ Shawn was wellโloved.
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He was always very quiet
and very shy growing up.
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He wasn't an extrovert.
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T a good, friendly, nice little boy.
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And people liked him.
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He was involved in sports all of his life.
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He just enjoyed doing everything.
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โ I was a big fan of playing football,
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because of the contact.
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You know, contact and
athletics were appealing to me.
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And then I'm 12 years old,
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getting to stay up late on a Saturday night,
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and this wrestling show starts.
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Southwest Championship Wrestling.
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The beginning montage,
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the guy is slow motion
jumping off the top rope.
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I was enthralled in it. It was justโโ
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I don't know, the neatest thing I ever saw.
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โ The best in professional
wrestling and I'mโโ
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โ After the show, I walked out
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and my mom was in the kitchen.
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I said, "I know what I'm
going to do when I grow up."
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And she said, "What's that?"
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I said, "I'm going to be
a professional wrestler."
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She was like, "Oh, that's nice, honey."
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โ He began to talk about
that's what he wanted to do,
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and I was sure that ultimately
he would grow out of that,
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but he never did.
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โ Down at the Freeman Coliseum,
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Shawn would periodically get to go,
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and, oh, he saw Tully Blanchard.
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โ Wahoo McDaniel, Eddie
Mansfield, Scott Casey.
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โ Of course, then later,
Ric Flair was a wrestling god,
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and he would buy wrestling magazines,
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and he would look at Ric Flair,
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and then he would stand in the mirror,
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and try to talk like him and look like him.
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โ Being a wrestling fan,
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it was really a black
sheep source of mockery.
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It's not something you say
with a great deal of pride.
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It was just a relationship
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between me and wrestling for a while
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and my dad was an amateur wrestler
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at the University of Iowa,
so he was a real wrestler.
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And, of course, he just gave
some gruff like, "That's fake."
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The kindest thing I could say about it was
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I considered it to be an athletic soap opera,
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which has always been my description
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of professional wrestling.
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โ Then a new kid gets transferred.
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His name is Kenny Kent.
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I met Shawn the summer of 1980.
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We were sophomores in high school. Both 15.
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He would want to wrestle
and throw around his friends,
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and they didn't like it.
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And so I instantly became
his little tag team partner
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and we would just bash each other
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and throw each other around,
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and that's really what
developed our friendship.
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โ They'd practice out
in the pool. Frightening.
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Shawn would lift him straight him, Kenny,
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and then they'd fall into the pool.
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His way of practicing.
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โ Shawn dreamed of wrestling.
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He would call me and tell me these matches
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that he would lay out and prepare.
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He was really obsessed with it.
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โ In that time, you struggled back and forth
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with people who are telling you it's fake,
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but I am there watching the guyโโwhap!
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I mean, hitting the guy
and sweat's flying off.
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There's something to it.
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They've got me hook, line, and sinker.
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โ We were a very small school.
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We did not have a wrestling team.
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But our senior year, we had a talent show
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and it was Shawn's idea
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that me and him were
gonna do a wrestling match.
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Everything was going quite well
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until I threw Shawn off
the stage into the crowd,
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and beat his head on
the table a couple of times.
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There was just blood
gushing all over his head.
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And people are going nuts.
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โ I think we came in second. We didn't win.
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โ We got beat by a group of cheerleaders
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so, you know, two guys
in little tightie whities
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versus cheerleaders,
they're gonna win every time.
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โ We graduate,
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and then it's "What are you gonna do?"
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Well, have you decided what you want?"
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"I still want to be a wrestler."
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I recognized that I said it when I was 12,
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but it's just been a
big, big part of my life.
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Okay, that's awesome.
That's not a possibility.
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โ But, you know, at 17,
you look at him and you think
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you don't know what you're talking about.
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We said, "You're going to college."
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โ There wasn't a lot of open understanding
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in what I was doing.
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โ We went off to Southwest
Texas State University.
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When we lived together at college,
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there were many nights I would hear him
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and he's standing there with his shirt off
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and he'd be talking and
screaming at the mirror,
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practicing.
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At the end of his second semester,
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I think his GPA was 0.4.
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School just wasn't for him,
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and he was ready to make his
move into the wrestling world.
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โ Essentially, he said,
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"I don't want to waste anymore
of my time or your money.
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I am going to be a professional wrestler."
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โ My dad played golf with this guy,
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and apparently he's the
guy that's a local promoter
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here in San Antonio.
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We go down there, and
Jose Lothario was there.
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โ From San Antonio, Texas,
superstar Jose Lothario.
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โ I understood he was a legitimate name.
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The gentleman stated
"Well, he has to be trained.
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"Jose could do the training if you wanted.
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It's gonna cost $3,000."
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โ I thought about facing him
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when he was 35 or 40 years old,
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and having him say
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"Dad, if you'd have just given me the chance,
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I could have been a professional wrestler."
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And I couldn't face that thought.
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And so I said, "What the hell."
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โ You know, I wake up every day
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never forgetting what I did for a living.
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I sort of developed a habit
getting up in the morning,
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stretching and then the heat pad.
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Over the years, you just
come up with a system
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that your body responds well to.
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I do some form of training
every day, you know,
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to be comfortable for the rest of the day.
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I plan on getting, you know,
new knees, knee replacements
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and shoulder replacements.
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Those things are gonna
add to my quality of life.
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It's not like I got into this stuff thinking
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I want to be independently
wealthy and be 100% healthy.
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That doesn't happen.
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So I don't know, I don't mind it.
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I don't think that's
some big, crazy sacrifice.
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โช
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โ I first came across Shawn Michaels in 1983.
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Shawn was training with a gentleman
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by the name of Jose Lothario.
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Jose was a big star in Houston, Texas,
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Dallas, San Antonio.
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โ He was Hispanic, so
there was a Luchador style.
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It was the aerial side of things.
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Thankfully, in all of that process,
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he saw that, "Oh, my goodness,
he's actually pretty good."
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It was worth the $3,000, period,
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for him to get me my first job in Louisiana,
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and that could not have happened
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without Jose Lothario.
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โ The pride of Vero
Beach, Florida, Terry Taylor.
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โ The first time I met Shawn Michaels
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working for MidโSouth,
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there was this young, innocent, cheerful,
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vibrant sort of
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lost young man.
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โ I was scared of everything.
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It was a lot of confusion, a lot of unknown.
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How in God's name is this supposed to go on?
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I came walking through the back,
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and Terry Taylor was
standing there at the curtain.
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โ I said, "How long have
you been in the business?"
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And he goes, "That was my first match."
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And I couldn't believe
it, because this isn't easy.
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โ Shawn Michaels.
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A very young man, and very inexperienced,
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but he has a great deal
of natural athletic ability.
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โ We drove 3,000 miles a week.
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That means there's a lot of time
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that you're in the car doing this,
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and he would ask questions.
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โ A young man who is quite handsome.
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โ I was very well mannered, I was quiet,
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and I wanted to do nothing but learn.
290
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โ Some young people
come in, "I know everything."
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Nothing like that with Shawn.
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Humble, passionate, driven, hungry.
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โ At about six months, the owner, Bill Watts,
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came to me and he got
me set up in Kansas City.
295
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I was going to have the opportunity to begin
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to grow as a wrestler, as a performer.
297
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โ We're hearing all this, like,
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this guy Shawn Michaels,
Shawn Michaels is coming in.
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We're like, "Damn, nobody has gotten
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"any attention like this.
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What's wrong with us?"
302
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We walked in the dressing room
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and this guy had real short hair,
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green tights pulled up to under his chest.
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Let me ask this nerd, like,
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"Hey, do you know who Shawn Michaels is?"
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And he leaned back he
goes, "I'm Shawn Michaels."
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I was like, "Oh, damn,
we got some work to do."
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They threw us together because
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they needed a match real quick.
311
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We didn't have time to
prepare for it, but it clicked.
312
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โ Marty Jannetty.
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โ Marty just carried
himself with such confidence.
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He was enjoying himself. He was outgoing.
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I was so sort of shy, conservative.
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โ Shawn Michaels.
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โ Shawn came from a military family.
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Shawn was protected from a lot of the evils
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that lurk in the real world
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and having some
notoriety, being on television,
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you've got women, you've
got alcohol, you've got drugs.
322
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And it's all readily available to you.
323
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โ Yeah, he liked it right away.
324
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At first, he wasn't old enough,
325
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so he had to wait in the parking lot.
326
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We'd bring girls down to
him and beer down to him.
327
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โ Marty Jannetty one day said,
328
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"I see something in you
that's just dying to get out."
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He said, "You just need somebody
330
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"to bring it out of you,
331
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and I'm gonna bring it out."
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โ From the Showboat Hotel and Casino
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in Las Vegas, Nevada,
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this is AWA Championship Wrestling on ESPN.
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โ So, I was 20 years old.
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TV tapings are in Las Vegas.
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At that time, Marty and I, you know,
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I knew he was out there,
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so we just started looking around.
340
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All of a sudden there he
is, he's down there playing.
341
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And go down there,
342
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and I went and just doโdoโdo, pulled it down.
343
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โ I'm sitting there with him,
344
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and all of the sudden we hear this,
345
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"Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding."
346
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Red lights go flashing
around, and Shawn hit triple 7s.
347
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Won 750 bucks the first time.
348
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The irony of it now,
like, oh, this place wasโโ
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Vegas and the nightlife of Vegas
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and everything else would be my downโโ
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Would be my downfall.
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It started later that night.
353
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It's the first line of yayo, you know.
354
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The first line of blow.
355
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And it's, "Oh, my gosh, this
is the greatest thing ever."
356
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And it's just this whole world opens up.
357
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I'd have never been able
to get that guy out of me,
358
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and Marty is the guy
that helped tap into that.
359
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I don't even know how much I knew was there.
360
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โช
361
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โ Me and Shawn partied
Monday night, Tuesday night,
362
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Wednesday night, Thursday night.
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Come Friday, we were burned out.
364
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Big Van Vader, he comes to hang out with us.
365
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He looked at Curt Hennig and he goes,
366
00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,510
"I thought you said these guys partied."
367
00:16:04,630 --> 00:16:07,220
And Curt said, "They
don't start until midnight."
368
00:16:07,340 --> 00:16:08,630
โ The Midnight Rockers.
369
00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,840
What a sensational pair they are.
370
00:16:10,970 --> 00:16:14,470
โ It was like magic. The
Judas Priest song come on.
371
00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,640
โ They love to party.
372
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โ They've taken the AWA by storm.
373
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โ The move happening faster
374
00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:21,900
than we can even talk about it.
375
00:16:22,020 --> 00:16:23,460
โ They've got to put a
bigger roof on the arenas
376
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to hold these two kids in it.
377
00:16:24,780 --> 00:16:27,360
โ These two are indeed sensational,
378
00:16:27,490 --> 00:16:28,650
to say the least.
379
00:16:28,740 --> 00:16:32,120
โ โช Living after midnight
380
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โช Rocking 'til the dawn
381
00:16:36,290 --> 00:16:39,710
โ Midnight Rockers had
a hell of a run in the AWA.
382
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They'd had TV on ESPN.
383
00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,380
โ The World Tag Team Championship
384
00:16:43,500 --> 00:16:45,460
is Marty Jannetty and Shawn Michaels' goal.
385
00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:46,670
โ They were smaller guys,
386
00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,220
but they could work with the giants
387
00:16:49,340 --> 00:16:51,050
and have a great match.
388
00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,280
โ The Tag Team Championship of the World
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is what they are fighting for here tonight.
390
00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,520
โ I think he cracked his head on the cement
391
00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,440
when he went out there.
392
00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,100
โ The blood match, if you will,
393
00:17:03,190 --> 00:17:06,631
was the first time that a
national audience got exposed
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00:17:06,651 --> 00:17:09,400
to the talent of the Midnight Rockers.
395
00:17:09,490 --> 00:17:11,820
โ This is absolute mayhem.
396
00:17:11,910 --> 00:17:15,120
โ The match itself was
very bloody, very gory.
397
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โ One of the toughest, roughest matches
398
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that we have ever seen.
399
00:17:19,870 --> 00:17:21,000
โ That was kind of like
400
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a defining moment in their career,
401
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that they were made at that level.
402
00:17:26,710 --> 00:17:28,590
โ If we was on the road 300 days a year,
403
00:17:28,670 --> 00:17:30,420
we partied 290 of them.
404
00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,430
We used to do a lot of drugs.
405
00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:35,140
There was a lot of powder around.
406
00:17:35,220 --> 00:17:37,680
โ You look at rock stars
and you look at rock bands.
407
00:17:37,770 --> 00:17:41,890
There was a tendency to want
to go wild and destroy things.
408
00:17:42,020 --> 00:17:43,730
It's fun when you're young,
409
00:17:43,810 --> 00:17:45,610
because you feel like a rebel.
410
00:17:45,690 --> 00:17:47,690
We've made it, man. Look at this.
411
00:17:47,820 --> 00:17:49,860
And throw a beer bottle up against the wall,
412
00:17:49,940 --> 00:17:52,030
and it was, like, oh, we'll pay for it later.
413
00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:53,740
โ We always did the job,
414
00:17:53,820 --> 00:17:55,010
but it was just partying all night.
415
00:17:55,030 --> 00:17:57,240
Destroy your room at the Showboat
416
00:17:57,370 --> 00:18:00,500
and we got the entire, uh, AWA,
417
00:18:00,540 --> 00:18:03,500
the entire company got kicked out of there.
418
00:18:03,620 --> 00:18:07,710
It wasn't very long that we had a reputation.
419
00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:12,670
And once you get it,
everybody else knows you got it.
420
00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,640
WWE was starting to really separate itself.
421
00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:16,640
If that's where you wanted to go,
422
00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,640
that's where you set your goals.
423
00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:23,310
Finally, Marty got the
call to go into New York.
424
00:18:23,390 --> 00:18:29,190
โ In 1987, the Rockers
started in Buffalo, New York.
425
00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:33,240
Marty and Shawn looked
at this as their big break.
426
00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:35,530
That night in the bar,
427
00:18:35,660 --> 00:18:37,950
the other talent looked at Shawn and Marty
428
00:18:38,030 --> 00:18:42,660
as these two young punks
with a chip on their shoulder.
429
00:18:42,750 --> 00:18:44,080
They're gonna have to earn
430
00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,130
the respect of the WWE locker room.
431
00:18:47,210 --> 00:18:49,670
โ We were scared, man. We were scared.
432
00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,760
So that night, that's why
we kind of kept to ourselves,
433
00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,550
and Terry Garvin come up and he said,
434
00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:56,680
"No, don't do that.
435
00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,180
Don't do that. Y'all have to mingle."
436
00:18:59,300 --> 00:19:03,060
โ And then all of a sudden
Jimmy Jack Funk, he came over.
437
00:19:03,140 --> 00:19:06,350
He's hammering down these
drinks and he's like, "Hey!
438
00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:07,810
You guys are big partiers!"
439
00:19:07,900 --> 00:19:12,940
He starts eating his
glass. "Come on let's do it."
440
00:19:13,030 --> 00:19:14,490
I at least gotta be a little tough.
441
00:19:14,610 --> 00:19:18,160
So then I break a wine glass over my head.
442
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,290
And that was it, I turn around, I leave.
443
00:19:22,370 --> 00:19:24,000
I would never say we didn't earn
444
00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,250
our reputations, any of that,
445
00:19:25,370 --> 00:19:26,420
but the wrestling business
446
00:19:26,500 --> 00:19:27,770
is one giant fish story, all right?
447
00:19:27,790 --> 00:19:29,900
So something happened
once in the wrestling business,
448
00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,300
that gets magnified to ten times.
449
00:19:32,380 --> 00:19:33,800
โ Some people say
450
00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,130
that Shawn or Marty threw a beer bottle,
451
00:19:36,220 --> 00:19:41,720
which started a chain of
events that couldn't be stopped.
452
00:19:41,850 --> 00:19:43,390
โ "And then these two guys,
453
00:19:43,470 --> 00:19:45,250
"I mean, they're in there just getting crazy,
454
00:19:45,270 --> 00:19:48,810
tearing up the bar, throwing
stuff all over the place."
455
00:19:48,940 --> 00:19:52,770
And that's not at all what happened.
456
00:19:52,860 --> 00:19:56,570
โ The next day, Shawn and Marty were fired,
457
00:19:56,690 --> 00:19:59,410
and it was over for them after one day,
458
00:19:59,530 --> 00:20:04,330
from just the story and
the hearsay and innuendo.
459
00:20:04,410 --> 00:20:06,870
โ I normally give reasons as to, you know,
460
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,540
why I'm gonna do something
and I'm sure I did with them,
461
00:20:09,670 --> 00:20:12,960
but that was one and done, out.
462
00:20:13,050 --> 00:20:15,380
โ He said, "The guys don't like it."
463
00:20:15,460 --> 00:20:17,760
He said, "They won't let you make it here."
464
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In my mind, I'm 23 and it's over.
465
00:20:23,390 --> 00:20:26,640
That was my one big shot.
466
00:20:26,770 --> 00:20:29,810
It happened now and it's gone.
467
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,490
โ Take a look at Takeover.
468
00:20:37,570 --> 00:20:39,320
We'll watch it, and I'll Skull you.
469
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,400
โ Okay.
470
00:20:41,780 --> 00:20:44,030
โ Shawn Michaels put his heart and soul
471
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into being the best pro wrestler
472
00:20:45,700 --> 00:20:46,910
that he could possibly be,
473
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,000
and he does the exact same thing
474
00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:52,080
as a coach and as producer.
475
00:20:52,210 --> 00:20:53,960
โ Stop there and look at each other.
476
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,920
Can that stuff take a little longer?
477
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,090
โ He will find ways to pick apart
478
00:20:58,170 --> 00:21:00,220
every little thing to make it better.
479
00:21:00,340 --> 00:21:02,640
โ Aim for the head.
480
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,140
You can't hold back on that,
481
00:21:04,220 --> 00:21:06,160
because that's gonna cause
you not to get all the way around.
482
00:21:06,180 --> 00:21:07,810
โ Shawn has this amazing ability
483
00:21:07,930 --> 00:21:10,640
to instill a confidence in you.
484
00:21:10,730 --> 00:21:12,400
This was a tremendous bout.
485
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,310
โ I mean, someone like Shawn Michaels
486
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,961
gives that to you, that's all
the motivation that you need.
487
00:21:16,981 --> 00:21:24,981
โ The unfortunate by-product
488
00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:34,040
of Shawn and Marty being
fired after their first day in WWE
489
00:21:34,130 --> 00:21:37,670
is Marty and Shawn had
burned their bridge in the AWA.
490
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:38,920
Where do you go?
491
00:21:39,010 --> 00:21:40,340
And welcome once again
492
00:21:40,460 --> 00:21:41,990
to Continental Championship
Wrestling and we haveโโ
493
00:21:42,010 --> 00:21:45,260
โ We ended up in Birmingham, Alabama.
494
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Continental Wrestling.
495
00:21:47,180 --> 00:21:49,270
I was wrestling in front of 25 people
496
00:21:49,350 --> 00:21:50,850
at 300 bucks a week.
497
00:21:50,930 --> 00:21:53,310
If you wanted to get $50 in cash,
498
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,940
you get your other $50
in blow, you could do that.
499
00:21:56,020 --> 00:22:00,690
Which is probably what I
did nine times out of ten.
500
00:22:00,820 --> 00:22:04,110
โ I heard him talk about
how depressed he was.
501
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,990
At that time, we was doing a lot of cocaine.
502
00:22:07,030 --> 00:22:08,370
And we would talk about wrestling
503
00:22:08,450 --> 00:22:11,660
and we would watch wrestling
videos and we would study.
504
00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:13,170
I had to go home to my girlfriend
505
00:22:13,290 --> 00:22:15,080
like at two or three or four in the morning.
506
00:22:15,210 --> 00:22:17,710
Sometimes the next morning sun was out.
507
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,170
And evidently, the way he says it,
508
00:22:20,300 --> 00:22:22,760
I let him down 'cause I
didn't stay with him more
509
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,300
and he was by himself.
510
00:22:24,380 --> 00:22:26,540
When you're doing cocaine,
you don't want to be alone.
511
00:22:29,180 --> 00:22:31,350
โ When you're up at 4:00 in the morning
512
00:22:31,470 --> 00:22:36,940
coming down from the yayo,
that's like, it's very dreary.
513
00:22:37,020 --> 00:22:40,150
Because the low is just so really low.
514
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,030
I was like, "Man, if I had a gun,
515
00:22:42,150 --> 00:22:43,320
"this is one of those times
516
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,320
that I was reckless enough
to have the balls to do it."
517
00:22:46,410 --> 00:22:48,570
At that time, it would
have wrecked my parents.
518
00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:54,000
You know, their suffering is
what pulled me back from that.
519
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,580
But the thing is I never told them the truth.
520
00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:58,810
So I'm not telling like,
"Jeez, Mama, I'm just partying,
521
00:22:58,830 --> 00:23:01,460
getting hammered and doing blow."
522
00:23:01,510 --> 00:23:05,430
โ Shawn and Marty, they wanted to come back.
523
00:23:05,510 --> 00:23:08,510
I remember Pat Patterson
giving them the advice
524
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,060
to continue to work
525
00:23:10,180 --> 00:23:15,520
and continue to reverse
the reputation that you have,
526
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,810
and prove to us that you belong.
527
00:23:17,940 --> 00:23:19,980
And that's what Marty and Shawn did.
528
00:23:20,060 --> 00:23:21,690
โ Pat was instrumental in saying,
529
00:23:21,820 --> 00:23:23,480
"Vince, he's a great talent."
530
00:23:23,530 --> 00:23:25,780
and it is difficult for me
to make that decision,
531
00:23:25,860 --> 00:23:27,200
because he was a jerk.
532
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:28,820
I mean, doing some stupid things.
533
00:23:28,910 --> 00:23:30,830
But Pat was right.
534
00:23:30,910 --> 00:23:33,490
โ I was there in '88 when they came back.
535
00:23:33,580 --> 00:23:34,750
It had been a year
536
00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:38,080
since the Rockers had kinda
screwed up on their first day.
537
00:23:38,170 --> 00:23:40,790
โ We're gonna bring you
back, but you're on probation.
538
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,500
You know, keep your [bleep] together.
539
00:23:42,590 --> 00:23:45,510
Yes, sir.
540
00:23:45,630 --> 00:23:46,970
โ Two newcomers, the Rockers.
541
00:23:47,090 --> 00:23:48,930
These guys are excitement personified.
542
00:23:49,010 --> 00:23:51,050
They'll be high flying.
543
00:23:51,180 --> 00:23:53,310
โ I met Shawn in 1990.
544
00:23:53,390 --> 00:23:56,270
They were pretty much,
you know, fun loving guys.
545
00:23:56,350 --> 00:23:57,870
They even tested me a little bit with their,
546
00:23:57,890 --> 00:23:59,730
you know, their antics.
547
00:23:59,850 --> 00:24:02,980
Actually, you know, they were
both pretty much peckerheads.
548
00:24:03,070 --> 00:24:05,400
I mean, I've got to call a spade a spade.
549
00:24:05,530 --> 00:24:07,090
โ The Rockers have got a bag full of tricks
550
00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:08,350
and you ain't seen nothing yet,
551
00:24:08,450 --> 00:24:10,110
so get ready, because here we come.
552
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,700
Wow!
553
00:24:11,820 --> 00:24:14,240
โ They were definitely innovators
554
00:24:14,370 --> 00:24:16,750
doing tandem moves together.
555
00:24:16,830 --> 00:24:19,500
You know, such a cohesive unit.
556
00:24:19,580 --> 00:24:23,040
The fans went nuts for
them, especially the women.
557
00:24:23,170 --> 00:24:26,710
You know, the long hair and all that.
558
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:27,720
โ There was a transitional moment
559
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,970
happening in the business
560
00:24:30,010 --> 00:24:32,510
where the athleticism was picking up.
561
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,850
The ability to do things that
Shawn and Marty could do.
562
00:24:36,970 --> 00:24:38,560
โ Oh, what a backdrop!
563
00:24:38,690 --> 00:24:40,650
โ Tag team wrestling now
564
00:24:40,730 --> 00:24:43,770
has been impacted a great
deal by what Marty and I did.
565
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,190
โ The first time you ever
make a magazine is huge,
566
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,740
and we would always go to the stores,
567
00:24:50,860 --> 00:24:52,300
stop and look at the magazine racks.
568
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,330
I remember one time I
heard Shawn "Oh, my God!"
569
00:24:55,370 --> 00:24:56,560
And there was a picture of us.
570
00:24:56,580 --> 00:25:00,040
It said "From Imitators To Innovators"
571
00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:02,040
and he's holding it up and he was so proud
572
00:25:02,170 --> 00:25:05,630
and I was, like, "Oh, man! Yeah, we did it!
573
00:25:05,670 --> 00:25:06,710
โ Shawn Michaels,
574
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,760
Marty Jannetty, the Rockers.
575
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,720
โ That's a real notch in the belt,
576
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,970
to be on Saturday night's main event.
577
00:25:14,090 --> 00:25:15,260
โ Saturday night's main event
578
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:17,430
was finally going to be the Rockers
579
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,980
winning the Tag Team Championship
580
00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:23,190
against Bret Hart and Jim the Anvil Neidhart.
581
00:25:23,310 --> 00:25:25,480
โ It was gonna be five stars.
582
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,730
It was gonna be as good
a match as we ever had.
583
00:25:29,530 --> 00:25:32,320
โ We're in the process of having that match,
584
00:25:32,410 --> 00:25:36,101
and all of a sudden, the rope breaks.
585
00:25:36,121 --> 00:25:37,990
Bret, the consummate pro,
586
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,540
he understands it's not live, it's taped.
587
00:25:40,620 --> 00:25:42,040
We can fix all this.
588
00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:43,480
โ It's taped. All you've got to do
589
00:25:43,540 --> 00:25:45,500
is grab a hold and then they'll fix it
590
00:25:45,630 --> 00:25:47,170
and then you're still in that hold,
591
00:25:47,250 --> 00:25:48,550
then the match can carry on.
592
00:25:48,670 --> 00:25:51,340
And I told them, I said, "Just fix the rope."
593
00:25:51,420 --> 00:25:53,490
"Fix the rope, fix the rope.
We'll take care of this."
594
00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:57,260
And then we get word,
just to continue without it,
595
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:59,640
so that's what we do.
596
00:25:59,770 --> 00:26:04,230
โ It was a disaster, and
I was so sick about it.
597
00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:05,940
โ We get our championship victory.
598
00:26:06,020 --> 00:26:08,690
We are doing our best to look excited
599
00:26:08,820 --> 00:26:15,160
in what is this huge steaming
pile of crap in the ring.
600
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,740
โ It just looked horrible.
601
00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:18,790
So the match never aired.
602
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:20,330
โ Vince calls me and said,
603
00:26:20,410 --> 00:26:23,040
"We're not going to
acknowledge that you've won.
604
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,830
You're going to give the belts back.
605
00:26:26,170 --> 00:26:27,460
โ Like, okay.
606
00:26:27,540 --> 00:26:29,250
Are we gonna have another opportunity?
607
00:26:29,340 --> 00:26:33,840
No, probably just gonna
go in other directions.
608
00:26:33,930 --> 00:26:35,260
Unbelievably disappointed,
609
00:26:35,340 --> 00:26:38,640
because that's not what you
imagine that moment being.
610
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,600
Done, it's over.
611
00:26:48,020 --> 00:26:53,280
โ We were on the road
300 days a year for years.
612
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:56,320
The same hotels, same rental car,
613
00:26:56,410 --> 00:26:59,120
some of the same girls.
614
00:27:01,410 --> 00:27:03,160
โ He kicked his own partner
615
00:27:03,250 --> 00:27:05,000
right in the face.
616
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,330
โ I remember we were in Denver.
617
00:27:07,420 --> 00:27:11,130
Roddy Piper came in our room
and we had a few girls there,
618
00:27:11,250 --> 00:27:14,210
and Roddy kept bragging on Shawn.
619
00:27:14,340 --> 00:27:17,430
โ He was stirring up
the pot as far as saying,
620
00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:19,160
you know, I could be a singles and, you know,
621
00:27:19,180 --> 00:27:21,810
have great success and things like that.
622
00:27:21,890 --> 00:27:24,140
And he'd look at me and
go "We've got to work on you.
623
00:27:24,270 --> 00:27:26,390
You're still rough around the edges."
624
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,350
I was like, "Roddy, shouldn't we talk
625
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,270
about that some other time?"
626
00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:33,280
And Shawn shoved me at that point.
627
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,990
โ Everybody got in a fight
628
00:27:37,070 --> 00:27:40,820
because everybody was
not in their best frame of mind,
629
00:27:40,910 --> 00:27:42,200
like all the time.
630
00:27:42,290 --> 00:27:43,700
โ And he attacked me in the hallway
631
00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:46,410
and then I didn't want
to hit him once, let alone,
632
00:27:46,540 --> 00:27:48,330
you know, over and over. Had blood.
633
00:27:48,420 --> 00:27:50,580
Like, it looked like you'd,
you know, gutted a deer
634
00:27:50,670 --> 00:27:51,800
or something.
635
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,670
โ There was speculation that Marty Jannetty
636
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,590
and Shawn Michaels are not getting along.
637
00:27:55,670 --> 00:27:57,470
There was speculation that Shawn Michaels
638
00:27:57,510 --> 00:28:00,050
is kinda wanting to go on his own.
639
00:28:00,140 --> 00:28:01,680
โ All of my success at that point
640
00:28:01,810 --> 00:28:05,520
was Tag Team, but there
was never a time in my career
641
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,520
where someone didn't say to me,
642
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,020
like, "I think you've got some talent."
643
00:28:10,150 --> 00:28:13,360
It was eventually gonna come down to me.
644
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,650
I remember the first time he told me,
645
00:28:15,730 --> 00:28:17,530
"I want to be the World Champion one day.
646
00:28:17,650 --> 00:28:20,320
I don't want to tag the rest of our career."
647
00:28:20,450 --> 00:28:23,030
"I just need you to let me
know when you're ready for that.
648
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,490
Don't spring it on me."
649
00:28:24,580 --> 00:28:27,750
And then he sprung it on me anyway.
650
00:28:27,870 --> 00:28:31,670
Welcome to the Barbershop,
ladies and gentlemen.
651
00:28:31,790 --> 00:28:36,800
Let's welcome them right
now. They're the Rockers.
652
00:28:38,170 --> 00:28:40,800
Recently there's been a lot of controversy,
653
00:28:40,930 --> 00:28:42,300
a lot of rumors flying guys.
654
00:28:42,430 --> 00:28:44,310
Maybe you guys are gonna break up.
655
00:28:44,390 --> 00:28:46,310
You've been having some problems.
656
00:28:46,390 --> 00:28:48,100
โ I didn't become familiar with Shawn
657
00:28:48,180 --> 00:28:53,440
until he showed up in WWE with
Marty Jannetty as the Rockers.
658
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,150
That's my first introduction
to Shawn Michaels.
659
00:28:56,190 --> 00:28:59,570
โ See, one without the other isn't any good.
660
00:28:59,650 --> 00:29:01,660
Oh! Oh, I knew he was gonna do that.
661
00:29:01,780 --> 00:29:04,120
I just knew he was gonna do that.
662
00:29:06,700 --> 00:29:09,120
Oh, my God!
663
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,330
โ I would argue the Barbershop window
664
00:29:11,420 --> 00:29:13,920
was the greatest tag
team breakup of all time.
665
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,090
It is the standard bearer
for turning on a friend.
666
00:29:18,170 --> 00:29:20,130
โ The super kick? Oh, he laid it in.
667
00:29:20,220 --> 00:29:23,550
Oh, he got me back for Denver.
668
00:29:25,140 --> 00:29:28,350
Is there a problem with the Rockers?
669
00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:30,770
โ It was so effective
670
00:29:30,850 --> 00:29:36,320
that it makes Shawn one of
the most hated men in wrestling.
671
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,900
Shawn Michaels changed forever that day.
672
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,240
โ I had this strange thing with Marty,
673
00:29:48,370 --> 00:29:51,160
because without him,
674
00:29:51,250 --> 00:29:55,651
so much of the good doesn't happen for me.
675
00:29:55,671 --> 00:29:58,590
But there's a ceiling on
being a tag team, period,
676
00:29:58,670 --> 00:30:03,130
when it's called a leading man
as opposed to a leading duo.
677
00:30:03,220 --> 00:30:05,180
It's just a natural evolution.
678
00:30:05,260 --> 00:30:07,100
Now everybody is gonna find out
679
00:30:07,180 --> 00:30:10,140
what Shawn Michaels has known all along,
680
00:30:10,270 --> 00:30:11,600
that he is, without a doubt,
681
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,980
the hottest thing in the WWE
682
00:30:14,060 --> 00:30:16,480
has ever, ever laid eyes on.
683
00:30:19,780 --> 00:30:22,490
โช
684
00:30:22,570 --> 00:30:25,360
โ The Heartbreak Kid, Shawn
Michaels, was something
685
00:30:25,490 --> 00:30:28,160
that Shawn just pretty much came up with.
686
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,500
I don't think that anybody really mapped out
687
00:30:31,580 --> 00:30:33,620
The Heartbreak Kid.
688
00:30:33,710 --> 00:30:38,460
โ It's sort of an Elvis
meets Freddie Mercury.
689
00:30:38,550 --> 00:30:42,630
โ Shawn Michaels is leavin' the building!
690
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:48,140
โ It was allowing me a vehicle
to let this other person out.
691
00:30:48,260 --> 00:30:50,040
To get out there in
front of a bunch of people
692
00:30:50,060 --> 00:30:54,140
and you canโโwow, you can just
be somebody you've never been.
693
00:30:54,270 --> 00:30:55,810
โ Has this guy got it all or what?
694
00:30:55,940 --> 00:30:58,060
No, I don't know where all that came from,
695
00:30:58,190 --> 00:30:59,570
I really don't.
696
00:30:59,690 --> 00:31:01,971
He figured Shawn Michaels
could do whatever he wanted to.
697
00:31:02,030 --> 00:31:04,360
What, an alter ego maybe.
698
00:31:04,490 --> 00:31:07,160
The Kentucky waterfall mullet alone,
699
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,080
probably one of the
greatest mullets of all time.
700
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,000
The dangling earrings,
the Village People outfit.
701
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,330
Your girlfriend wants him,
702
00:31:16,460 --> 00:31:18,000
you're gonna go over and kick his ass,
703
00:31:18,130 --> 00:31:21,340
but maybe he's gonna kick
yours and take her anyway.
704
00:31:21,460 --> 00:31:23,920
And that's where his heat was.
705
00:31:24,010 --> 00:31:25,170
โ I was a pretty kid.
706
00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:27,930
I was a pretty man, I don't
mind telling you, at one time.
707
00:31:28,010 --> 00:31:30,510
I could play the part of Mr. Confident
708
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:31,760
and everything else,
709
00:31:31,850 --> 00:31:33,120
and could do everything under the sun.
710
00:31:33,140 --> 00:31:34,310
Couldn't do a lick.
711
00:31:34,390 --> 00:31:37,020
Elvis and Freddie Mercury were onstage,
712
00:31:37,150 --> 00:31:40,270
they were so frickin' positive,
713
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,860
but in their lives they struggled.
714
00:31:42,980 --> 00:31:45,490
There was something there between me
715
00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:48,160
and those individuals that I could relate to.
716
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,720
You are not comfortable with who you are,
717
00:31:49,740 --> 00:31:51,370
you're not comfortable with yourself.
718
00:31:51,490 --> 00:31:53,910
Not knowing who I was as a human being,
719
00:31:53,990 --> 00:31:56,620
out there you're playing this role,
720
00:31:56,710 --> 00:32:01,290
but you can do it with
just unbridled confidence
721
00:32:01,420 --> 00:32:03,550
and you absolutely cannot do it
722
00:32:03,670 --> 00:32:06,210
by yourself in your own hotel room.
723
00:32:06,340 --> 00:32:07,430
I am a highโperformance,
724
00:32:07,510 --> 00:32:09,140
stateโofโtheโart wrestling machine.
725
00:32:09,180 --> 00:32:12,810
โ I think any great
character will be confused
726
00:32:12,890 --> 00:32:15,020
between the human being and the character,
727
00:32:15,140 --> 00:32:19,560
and Shawn Hickenbottom kinda
morphed into the Heartbreak Kid
728
00:32:19,690 --> 00:32:20,900
at all times.
729
00:32:20,980 --> 00:32:23,480
Shawn was becoming
a little bit more difficult.
730
00:32:23,570 --> 00:32:24,770
And the Intercontinental title
731
00:32:24,860 --> 00:32:27,740
is coming to the sexiest man, hey.
732
00:32:27,860 --> 00:32:30,490
โ The WWE was still the land of the giants,
733
00:32:30,570 --> 00:32:32,490
and there were still a lot of big guys,
734
00:32:32,620 --> 00:32:34,490
and Shawn wanted to break through
735
00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:36,580
what he considered a glass ceiling of,
736
00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:40,500
"I'm not sixโfootโeight, I'm not 300 pounds.
737
00:32:40,620 --> 00:32:45,460
I wanna be what I am,
and I wanna be the guy."
738
00:32:45,550 --> 00:32:47,460
โ When you are that talented
739
00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:50,510
and that hellโbent on succeeding,
740
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,010
but you have the chip on your shoulder
741
00:32:53,140 --> 00:32:54,220
of being the little guy
742
00:32:54,350 --> 00:32:55,260
to get to where he needed to be,
743
00:32:55,350 --> 00:32:56,430
he had to stand his ground,
744
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:57,890
he had to fight for what he wanted.
745
00:32:58,020 --> 00:32:59,940
โ I was at the very least as good
746
00:33:00,020 --> 00:33:02,400
or better than, you know, anybody else
747
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,360
that I was sharing a locker room with.
748
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:05,650
I was getting an opportunity
749
00:33:05,730 --> 00:33:07,690
that not many guys like me were gonna get.
750
00:33:07,820 --> 00:33:10,490
โ We got a new Intercontinental Champion!
751
00:33:10,610 --> 00:33:12,700
โ Shawn may have been sixโone,
752
00:33:12,820 --> 00:33:15,120
but his ego and the chip on his shoulder
753
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,580
made him nineโfootโfive.
754
00:33:16,660 --> 00:33:17,950
โ Shawn Michaels,
755
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,040
he's our Intercontinental Champion!
756
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,790
โ '92โ'93,
757
00:33:21,870 --> 00:33:24,210
Intercontinental Champion at the time,
758
00:33:24,330 --> 00:33:26,210
looking for Shawn to really step up
759
00:33:26,340 --> 00:33:28,590
and become a huge star for us.
760
00:33:28,670 --> 00:33:29,760
โ One thing I did have
761
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,970
is I wasn't scared of anything.
762
00:33:32,050 --> 00:33:34,390
I was the most dangerous person in the world
763
00:33:34,510 --> 00:33:36,010
'cause I had nothing to lose.
764
00:33:36,140 --> 00:33:39,640
And when you are like that
in a creative line of work,
765
00:33:39,770 --> 00:33:43,690
you are frickin' unbeatable.
766
00:33:43,810 --> 00:33:47,530
โ Welcome to WrestleMania 10!
767
00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:52,910
โ In the process of studying
Shawn Michael's matches,
768
00:33:53,030 --> 00:33:55,410
the one that many people go back to
769
00:33:55,530 --> 00:33:56,910
is the infamous ladder match.
770
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,410
The match that Shawn Michaels
and Razor Ramone made famous
771
00:34:00,540 --> 00:34:01,870
at WrestleMania 10.
772
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,620
โ We are making history here.
773
00:34:03,710 --> 00:34:06,500
โ So right before
WrestleMania 10, leading up,
774
00:34:06,630 --> 00:34:08,071
there was a suspension with Shawn,
775
00:34:08,091 --> 00:34:10,720
where Shawn had been out
of the company for a while.
776
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,840
Shawn left as the Intercontinental Champion.
777
00:34:13,970 --> 00:34:16,680
โ Yeah, he failed a drug test for 'roids.
778
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,470
At that time, brother,
779
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,430
pills were bein' passed around in bars.
780
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,430
Like, guys go, "Here, man.
781
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,310
Canadian Valium, here take this."
782
00:34:23,350 --> 00:34:25,230
โ Shawn did not feel
783
00:34:25,350 --> 00:34:28,650
that he should have been
suspended, was pissed off.
784
00:34:28,730 --> 00:34:30,740
Vince didn't wanna put up with him,
785
00:34:30,860 --> 00:34:33,150
thought he was an out of control egomaniac.
786
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,660
โ And they'd tell Shawn to send the belt back
787
00:34:35,740 --> 00:34:38,620
and he says, "No, I'm not sending it back."
788
00:34:38,700 --> 00:34:41,040
โ Shawn decides he wants to come back.
789
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,040
Well, Razor's the Intercontinental Champion.
790
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,370
โ So take both championship belts,
791
00:34:45,460 --> 00:34:46,580
hang 'em above the ring,
792
00:34:46,670 --> 00:34:48,750
you fight to climb the ladder,
793
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,840
whoever gets the
championships above the ring,
794
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,590
that's your true champion.
795
00:34:52,670 --> 00:34:54,230
โ The two Intercontinental Championship
796
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:56,720
belts hanging from above.
797
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,180
โ For the following contest,
798
00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:01,890
there are no rules!
799
00:35:02,020 --> 00:35:04,140
โ With the ladder up. Oh!
800
00:35:06,900 --> 00:35:08,480
โ From high above!
801
00:35:08,610 --> 00:35:09,650
Oh! โ Oh!
802
00:35:09,770 --> 00:35:12,780
It's the most barbaric, insane,
803
00:35:12,860 --> 00:35:15,490
car crash excitement you've ever seen.
804
00:35:15,570 --> 00:35:17,490
โ It's starting to shake! Oh, no!
805
00:35:17,570 --> 00:35:18,870
โ Oh!
806
00:35:18,990 --> 00:35:21,490
โ I was able to have a presence
807
00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:24,250
that I don't think they knew that I had.
808
00:35:24,370 --> 00:35:27,120
It isn't about size, it is about presence.
809
00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:30,960
โ Oh! Oh!
810
00:35:31,090 --> 00:35:33,550
โ Shawn actually lost the match,
811
00:35:33,630 --> 00:35:36,130
but it put Shawn at a different level
812
00:35:36,220 --> 00:35:38,510
that people believed
813
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,760
this little bastard could do anything.
814
00:35:44,180 --> 00:35:49,520
If you didn't before, or
you didn't want to believe,
815
00:35:49,650 --> 00:35:57,200
Shawn made you believe.
816
00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:01,300
โ Should close it and
just drop it to the side.
817
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,660
Boom and then you say,
"Okay, mister, here we go."
818
00:36:03,740 --> 00:36:04,910
You know, whatever.
819
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,680
I don't know, just throwing it out there.
820
00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:09,830
This weekend, we have
one of our bigger events.
821
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,330
Fiveโman ladder match.
822
00:36:11,460 --> 00:36:12,540
Is that gonna...
823
00:36:12,670 --> 00:36:14,030
Someone will be holding that right there.
824
00:36:14,050 --> 00:36:17,300
Many, many years ago, it was just two of us
825
00:36:17,380 --> 00:36:18,800
and one ladder.
826
00:36:18,930 --> 00:36:20,280
And now, these young men and women
827
00:36:20,300 --> 00:36:22,140
have taken it to a whole nother level.
828
00:36:22,220 --> 00:36:23,850
Got a lot of moving parts around here.
829
00:36:23,930 --> 00:36:26,890
โ I always dreamed of being in a ladder match
830
00:36:26,980 --> 00:36:28,640
obviously because of Shawn and Razor.
831
00:36:30,690 --> 00:36:35,400
Ladder matches are
about crazy stunts, big falls,
832
00:36:35,530 --> 00:36:36,670
it's a car crash come to life.
833
00:36:36,690 --> 00:36:38,650
He is the face of the ladder match
834
00:36:38,700 --> 00:36:40,140
and to have him kind of help us out,
835
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,660
have him kinda watch over
us, you can't dream it up.
836
00:36:42,740 --> 00:36:44,330
It's perfect.
837
00:36:44,410 --> 00:36:47,080
There you go.
838
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,210
โI met him in the locker room, 1993,
839
00:36:55,340 --> 00:36:56,630
and wanted to know
840
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,630
if I'd be interested in
becoming his bodyguard.
841
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:02,180
And the first thing out of Shawn's mouth is,
842
00:37:02,260 --> 00:37:05,930
"Just so you know, everybody hates us."
843
00:37:06,010 --> 00:37:08,770
The bodyguard position was 24/7.
844
00:37:08,850 --> 00:37:11,940
It wasn't just on television persona,
845
00:37:12,020 --> 00:37:14,150
a lot of people didn't like him.
846
00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:16,980
โ Shawn Michaels was misunderstood
847
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:18,490
all throughout his career.
848
00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:20,070
There was a certain perception
849
00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:21,950
that he was an ass[bleep], frankly.
850
00:37:22,030 --> 00:37:23,740
Shawn was selfish.
851
00:37:23,870 --> 00:37:25,950
Shawn did have an out of control ego,
852
00:37:26,030 --> 00:37:27,500
and Shawn did feel that he
853
00:37:27,580 --> 00:37:28,910
was better than everybody else.
854
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,250
To be successful and
to take it to the next level,
855
00:37:33,330 --> 00:37:35,750
you have to start looking out for yourself.
856
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,960
It's not a team sport.
857
00:37:38,050 --> 00:37:40,090
โ The one thing that was
the saving grace for Shawn
858
00:37:40,170 --> 00:37:44,640
was he was so good in the ring.
859
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:46,240
As a performer, if you work with a guy
860
00:37:46,260 --> 00:37:48,100
that makes you look that good,
861
00:37:48,180 --> 00:37:49,640
I don't care what you think of him,
862
00:37:49,770 --> 00:37:51,350
you want to work with him.
863
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,980
โ Shawn Michaels, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall,
864
00:37:55,060 --> 00:37:58,150
1โ2โ3 Kid, and then Paul LeVesque, Triple H.
865
00:37:58,230 --> 00:38:00,650
These were guys that
loved hanging out together
866
00:38:00,780 --> 00:38:06,370
and hence the Kliq began to form.
867
00:38:06,490 --> 00:38:08,910
โ We all just hit it off, and
then it wasโโyou know, weโโ
868
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,850
All we did was talk nonโstop
about the business and,
869
00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:14,250
you know, we were all
just so passionate about it.
870
00:38:14,380 --> 00:38:15,610
โ The perception was that the Kliq
871
00:38:15,630 --> 00:38:17,590
was allโknowing and allโpowerful,
872
00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:19,840
and that if you crossed the Kliq,
873
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,490
they'll just go Vince
and you'll be blackballed.
874
00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:23,380
โ They couldn't call any of the shots,
875
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:26,911
but I listened, and they
had some really good ideas.
876
00:38:26,931 --> 00:38:28,850
Really smart, individually.
877
00:38:28,970 --> 00:38:31,810
And Shawn's very smart when he's sober.
878
00:38:32,810 --> 00:38:34,850
Shawn had an attitude,
879
00:38:34,940 --> 00:38:37,900
when he drank even more so on top of pills
880
00:38:38,020 --> 00:38:39,270
and Shawn would say,
881
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,320
you know, the wrong thing at the wrong time.
882
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,160
And he was protected in a WB environment.
883
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,870
You know, but outside that environmentโโ
884
00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:51,500
โ Shawn Michaels, British Bulldog,
885
00:38:51,620 --> 00:38:53,330
1โ2โ3 Kid walk into a bar.
886
00:38:53,410 --> 00:38:56,540
Me, Scott, and Kev were in Europe.
887
00:38:56,620 --> 00:38:58,920
It was where we find
out that this all happened.
888
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,960
Bunch of Marines in a tough bar.
889
00:39:01,050 --> 00:39:04,510
Every eye in that place
turns to the three wrestlers
890
00:39:04,590 --> 00:39:05,890
that just walked in the door,
891
00:39:06,010 --> 00:39:08,260
of which Shawn is the megastar.
892
00:39:08,350 --> 00:39:10,970
Every girl in that place
starts to look at Shawn,
893
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:13,020
Shawn is very enamored with that,
894
00:39:13,140 --> 00:39:14,670
and Shawn is at this point in his life,
895
00:39:14,690 --> 00:39:18,770
like, "[bleep] you lookin' at?
Is there a problem, jarhead?"
896
00:39:18,860 --> 00:39:20,770
They go to walk out, six Marines walk out,
897
00:39:20,860 --> 00:39:22,030
beat the [bleep] out of Shawn
898
00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:25,150
and leave him in the side of the car.
899
00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:26,990
โ And the last thing I can remember is,
900
00:39:27,110 --> 00:39:28,740
you know, there being the coat check.
901
00:39:28,870 --> 00:39:32,080
The next thing is waking up in the hospital.
902
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,540
And everything else is a complete blank.
903
00:39:36,670 --> 00:39:38,210
That was four days
904
00:39:38,330 --> 00:39:41,840
out of a seven day
week, situations like that.
905
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,220
Getting beat up by nine guys in Syracuse,
906
00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:45,740
to me, there's not a whole lot of shame in.
907
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,930
You know, that kind of stuff
just sort of happens to me.
908
00:39:49,010 --> 00:39:50,220
I've got two choicesโโ
909
00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:52,930
sit home and cry, or to
come out and be a pain.
910
00:39:53,010 --> 00:39:56,140
And I got news for you,
folks, I'm all cried out.
911
00:39:56,270 --> 00:39:57,350
โ This moment of existence
912
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,770
was the 20 minutes in the ring every night.
913
00:39:59,850 --> 00:40:01,520
He wouldn't be messed up.
914
00:40:01,610 --> 00:40:03,250
He'd go in there and
he'd kill it every night,
915
00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:05,570
and then the second he was doneโโ
916
00:40:07,450 --> 00:40:09,990
"I'm in pain, and I took some stuff,
917
00:40:10,070 --> 00:40:11,950
"so I wouldn't be in pain this morning,
918
00:40:12,030 --> 00:40:13,240
but I'm messed up."
919
00:40:13,330 --> 00:40:15,160
Why would you hang out with this misery 24/7?
920
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,250
No, it's not. It's again like your brother.
921
00:40:17,370 --> 00:40:19,250
It's like a family member.
922
00:40:19,380 --> 00:40:21,290
Shawn owes his life to Triple H,
923
00:40:21,380 --> 00:40:24,550
Paul Leveque, owes his life to him.
924
00:40:24,670 --> 00:40:25,970
โ Shawn Michaels knows
925
00:40:26,090 --> 00:40:28,930
that the greatest match of his life
926
00:40:29,010 --> 00:40:31,800
must come this Sunday night.
927
00:40:31,930 --> 00:40:34,310
By the time you get to the midโ90s,
928
00:40:34,430 --> 00:40:36,680
Bret Hart has become a crowd favorite.
929
00:40:36,810 --> 00:40:41,310
Bret is a very softโspoken,
quiet, Canadian gentleman.
930
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,280
Shawn is an outspoken, loud, brash American.
931
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,450
Only one person can be
the absolute alpha dog.
932
00:40:49,530 --> 00:40:53,120
The Iron Man match, the
boyhood dream realized,
933
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,870
it added another layer to the
Shawn Michaels character.
934
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,000
โ The Iron Man match,
935
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,830
it's the opportunity where I get to,
936
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,420
you know, get my first world championship.
937
00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:06,300
โ There's only one Heartbreak Kid!
938
00:41:06,340 --> 00:41:10,720
Unbelievable, what a ride!
939
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,510
โ An hourโlong match,
940
00:41:12,590 --> 00:41:15,310
it's gonna be a long night at
the office, in wrestling terms.
941
00:41:15,430 --> 00:41:19,890
โ For the WWE Championship!
942
00:41:20,020 --> 00:41:21,980
โ We start to have our issues.
943
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:25,150
You know, I was never big on the Kliq idea.
944
00:41:25,230 --> 00:41:27,610
It was a testy match in a lot of ways.
945
00:41:27,690 --> 00:41:29,780
โ Hart's in big trouble.
946
00:41:32,030 --> 00:41:33,700
โ There was a famous part
947
00:41:33,820 --> 00:41:35,160
where I jump off the second rope.
948
00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:39,160
He comes up and kicks me in the face
949
00:41:39,210 --> 00:41:40,370
as hard as he could.
950
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:41,770
I mean, he almost knocked me out.
951
00:41:41,790 --> 00:41:43,000
โ Oh, my goodness!
952
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,040
We stiff each other a
lot of times in that match.
953
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,800
โ One, two, out!
954
00:41:53,590 --> 00:41:57,930
โ The boyhood dream has come true!
955
00:41:58,010 --> 00:41:59,560
โ The boyhood dream has come true,
956
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,150
because that was Shawn's
boyhood dream, it was.
957
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:05,360
And that's exactly what happened.
958
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,110
โ It was a very big moment for my career.
959
00:42:08,190 --> 00:42:10,240
It's like, oh, it's the first
World Championship
960
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,490
and you go like, "Hmm, I
pictured it being different."
961
00:42:12,570 --> 00:42:15,320
I wasn't at a good place
and all that kinda stuff.
962
00:42:15,450 --> 00:42:18,580
Just a lot of responsibility
that goes with that.
963
00:42:18,700 --> 00:42:20,780
Now every guy in that
locker room, their wellโbeing,
964
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:24,830
their life, you know,
their livelihood and all that
965
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,000
depends on the job that you do.
966
00:42:27,130 --> 00:42:30,170
You know, it all falls on your shoulders.
967
00:42:30,260 --> 00:42:31,800
The whole thing was uncomfortable.
968
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,390
โ As we got into 1996, Ted
Turner, who owned WCW,
969
00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:42,121
our competitors, was being very aggressive
970
00:42:42,141 --> 00:42:45,980
in his quest for new talent.
971
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:48,230
Scott Hall and Kevin Nash,
972
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:53,110
they were going to leave
and go to Ted Turner's WCW.
973
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,320
The last matches being
974
00:42:55,450 --> 00:42:59,120
in New York in Madison Square Garden.
975
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,870
โ On my 19th, 1996,
976
00:43:01,950 --> 00:43:04,620
one of the greatest days of wrestling,
977
00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:06,330
and my life as well.
978
00:43:06,460 --> 00:43:09,040
Me and my friend went to a house show
979
00:43:09,170 --> 00:43:10,460
which was not televised,
980
00:43:10,590 --> 00:43:12,380
we would sneak in a camera past security
981
00:43:12,460 --> 00:43:15,010
and we would film the shows.
982
00:43:15,090 --> 00:43:18,890
Shawn was my hero and was my idol growing up.
983
00:43:20,510 --> 00:43:22,060
The ending shows Shawn Michaels
984
00:43:22,180 --> 00:43:23,770
giving Diesel a super kick.
985
00:43:23,850 --> 00:43:26,150
Match is over.
986
00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:28,730
And then all of a sudden
Razor Ramon comes out.
987
00:43:28,860 --> 00:43:30,320
I'm like, "Oh, cool."
988
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,990
They start hugging and
I'm screaming like a little girl.
989
00:43:33,070 --> 00:43:34,570
Oh, my God!
990
00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:35,860
Who's this?
991
00:43:35,950 --> 00:43:37,640
And it turns out to be Hunter Hurst Helmsley.
992
00:43:37,660 --> 00:43:40,740
They all start hugging and, you
know, obviously saying goodbye.
993
00:43:40,870 --> 00:43:43,830
It was insane. That night was magical.
994
00:43:43,870 --> 00:43:46,170
Yeah!
995
00:43:46,250 --> 00:43:47,670
The business was well protected
996
00:43:47,790 --> 00:43:51,170
up until then, and our
cameras still kept going.
997
00:43:51,250 --> 00:43:53,170
The only camera that was there.
998
00:43:53,250 --> 00:43:56,130
If we were not involved
in taping the curtain call,
999
00:43:56,220 --> 00:43:59,890
it would not be talked about as much today.
1000
00:44:00,010 --> 00:44:01,640
โ Place is going insane.
1001
00:44:01,720 --> 00:44:04,060
Everybody knows everything
on the inside of the business.
1002
00:44:04,180 --> 00:44:05,520
There's no secrets.
1003
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,210
โ People in the business didn't like it.
1004
00:44:07,230 --> 00:44:09,730
They thought it was the
worst thing that happened.
1005
00:44:09,850 --> 00:44:12,070
Here's this bad guy, who we have no idea
1006
00:44:12,190 --> 00:44:14,490
is friends with all these other guys.
1007
00:44:14,530 --> 00:44:16,860
โ It's breaking the fourth wall
1008
00:44:16,990 --> 00:44:18,360
and just telling people,
1009
00:44:18,450 --> 00:44:19,890
"Everything we just did is bull [bleep]."
1010
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:23,330
Shawn Michaels is now
hugging and kissing the guy
1011
00:44:23,410 --> 00:44:26,500
that he's just spent 20
minutes beating the hell out of.
1012
00:44:26,540 --> 00:44:28,100
We entertained you, but now it's all over,
1013
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,710
we're really good buddies.
Taboo in the wrestling business.
1014
00:44:31,830 --> 00:44:35,210
โ The tape was leaked out to a writer.
1015
00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:37,420
The tape blows up on its own.
1016
00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:39,340
โ I had no idea that was gonna happen.
1017
00:44:39,430 --> 00:44:42,350
It was something that's
never been done before.
1018
00:44:42,430 --> 00:44:47,100
I'm watching this and going,
"What the hell is going on?"
1019
00:44:47,180 --> 00:44:49,600
The Kliq was an insult to our business.
1020
00:44:49,690 --> 00:44:51,770
If they had done that
in the '70s, early '80s,
1021
00:44:51,850 --> 00:44:54,110
they'd all four of them get
the [bleep] beat out of 'em.
1022
00:44:54,190 --> 00:44:58,360
They wrestle each other and
they all kiss and say goodbye.
1023
00:44:58,450 --> 00:45:00,280
โ Somebody's gotta go down for it.
1024
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,490
Kev's gone, Scott's gone, Shawn's the champ.
1025
00:45:03,570 --> 00:45:09,000
Stuff rolls downhill and,
yeah, it all rolled on me.
1026
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,670
โ Triple H is the one
1027
00:45:10,750 --> 00:45:13,840
that probably paid the heaviest price
1028
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,800
as far as his career
1029
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,920
kind of hitting a roadblock at that point.
1030
00:45:19,010 --> 00:45:20,630
Shawn didn't really pay a price.
1031
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:23,140
โ I was inherently selfish regardless,
1032
00:45:23,260 --> 00:45:27,980
so I'm sure I didn't feel
the compassion for him,
1033
00:45:28,060 --> 00:45:32,690
as maybe I should have.
1034
00:45:32,810 --> 00:45:35,190
โ There was a bit of a shutdown on Shawn.
1035
00:45:35,310 --> 00:45:38,150
Business isโโit's okay, but it's not great.
1036
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:39,510
You know, there's a lot of banter
1037
00:45:39,530 --> 00:45:41,950
about Shawn's not working as champion.
1038
00:45:42,030 --> 00:45:43,820
He's not drawing.
1039
00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:46,030
He's collapsing under the pressure.
1040
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,000
I can see him falling apart.
1041
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,670
Kevin and Scott are gone,
and I'm all he's got now.
1042
00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:52,920
He's a mess.
1043
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,250
โ I felt a lot of pressure
and I didn't handle it well.
1044
00:45:56,340 --> 00:45:58,170
For me, it was all about
1045
00:45:58,250 --> 00:46:00,090
running and escaping, and honestly,
1046
00:46:00,170 --> 00:46:01,590
you know, there was running
1047
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,640
and escaping from the dude I'd become.
1048
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,550
Better than having to face that,
1049
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,850
I might just take a few of
these and knock myself out.
1050
00:46:08,930 --> 00:46:11,310
Won't have to pay
attention to it till tomorrow.
1051
00:46:11,390 --> 00:46:13,020
โ He'd be pilled up, passed out,
1052
00:46:13,150 --> 00:46:16,730
put Shawn on a luggage cart
and roll him up to his room,
1053
00:46:16,810 --> 00:46:19,360
and get him undressed,
take the dip out of his mouth,
1054
00:46:19,490 --> 00:46:20,970
and put him on his side,
put a pillow behind him
1055
00:46:20,990 --> 00:46:23,010
so he wouldn't roll over and
choke to death in his sleep.
1056
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:25,820
And set an alarm and get
up every two, three hours
1057
00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:27,070
to go check on him.
1058
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,700
And that was every night.
1059
00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:32,710
Well, you know, every night? Sad existence.
1060
00:46:39,300 --> 00:46:41,470
โ What everybody has to understand
1061
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:43,800
about Shawn Michaels is thisโโ
1062
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,140
If I wanna come out here
1063
00:46:45,260 --> 00:46:49,140
and look like a blithering idiot on live TV,
1064
00:46:49,180 --> 00:46:51,350
believe me, I'm gonna do it.
1065
00:46:51,430 --> 00:46:54,730
Why? Because I can.
1066
00:46:54,850 --> 00:46:57,251
โ He had a drug problem for a while,
1067
00:46:57,271 --> 00:46:58,820
a serious one,
1068
00:46:58,860 --> 00:47:03,110
and he kind of fell in the hole even deeper.
1069
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,660
But it wasn't until he became champion
1070
00:47:06,740 --> 00:47:09,160
that I felt that Shawn, uh,
1071
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,250
started to question himself.
1072
00:47:13,370 --> 00:47:15,500
โ I called his dad, the colonel,
1073
00:47:15,580 --> 00:47:17,420
and said, "I'd like to visit."
1074
00:47:17,500 --> 00:47:19,290
So I flew down to meet him
1075
00:47:19,420 --> 00:47:21,800
and I'm saying, "You're
probably not aware of this,
1076
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,090
Shawn really has a drug problem."
1077
00:47:25,180 --> 00:47:26,550
The colonel got angry.
1078
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,970
He just didn't want to hear it.
1079
00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:32,430
โ I don't know that anybody
knew how to address it.
1080
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,600
Even things like rehab, my parents,
1081
00:47:34,690 --> 00:47:35,810
you know, God love 'em,
1082
00:47:35,890 --> 00:47:38,400
I don't that they knew
what it was that you did,
1083
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,730
except just to be worried.
1084
00:47:39,860 --> 00:47:42,940
Not long after that I tweaked my knee.
1085
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,820
I went to this dude in San Antonio
1086
00:47:46,910 --> 00:47:49,320
who doesn't know anything about wrestling,
1087
00:47:49,370 --> 00:47:50,830
and obviously sees I've torn my ACL
1088
00:47:50,870 --> 00:47:52,740
and he's like, "Dude, you're done."
1089
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:57,000
You know, he said, "You're
not wrestling with a torn ACL."
1090
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,540
I know that over the last several months,
1091
00:48:00,670 --> 00:48:02,460
I've lost a lot of things,
1092
00:48:02,550 --> 00:48:03,960
and one of them has been my smile.
1093
00:48:04,050 --> 00:48:07,130
โ He went in the ring to
announce he was retiring
1094
00:48:07,220 --> 00:48:08,970
'cause he had a bad knee.
1095
00:48:09,050 --> 00:48:11,180
I didn't believe his knee was the issue.
1096
00:48:11,300 --> 00:48:13,100
I always thought the issue was
1097
00:48:13,180 --> 00:48:16,350
he didn't want to wrestle
me at WrestleMania 13
1098
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:17,940
and drop the belt to me.
1099
00:48:18,020 --> 00:48:22,020
I doubted Shawn's integrity
as far as his injury went.
1100
00:48:22,150 --> 00:48:23,150
You phony little faker,
1101
00:48:23,270 --> 00:48:24,880
why don't you take your
little pussyfoot injuryโโ
1102
00:48:24,900 --> 00:48:26,090
โ All right, all right, knock it off.
1103
00:48:26,110 --> 00:48:28,570
No, no, no. โ It's all right.
1104
00:48:28,700 --> 00:48:29,820
I'm not going anywhere.
1105
00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:31,490
โ And go back and find your smile.
1106
00:48:31,530 --> 00:48:32,910
โ I got accused of faking it.
1107
00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:34,480
Bret told everybody I was faking it.
1108
00:48:34,540 --> 00:48:38,330
My excuse is drug addicts lie all the time.
1109
00:48:38,370 --> 00:48:39,670
Well, there's no doubt
1110
00:48:39,710 --> 00:48:41,630
that you found your
smile again as you stated...
1111
00:48:41,670 --> 00:48:43,290
โ A year off of the wrestling business
1112
00:48:43,380 --> 00:48:44,460
was a year of no pay.
1113
00:48:44,590 --> 00:48:47,630
That's just notโโ That isn't feasible.
1114
00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:49,840
And they said, "Well, look,
you can put a brace on it
1115
00:48:49,970 --> 00:48:51,510
and wrap it up."
1116
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,370
They went and they got me
a brace and everything else.
1117
00:48:53,390 --> 00:48:55,510
I was like, "Okay, I can do this."
1118
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,640
And it is time for the Heartbreak Kid,
1119
00:48:58,690 --> 00:49:01,480
Shawn Michaels to return to action!
1120
00:49:03,020 --> 00:49:06,360
โThis was a moment where
things needed to change.
1121
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,320
Business was bad.
1122
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:09,820
WCW was starting to kill us.
1123
00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:11,610
Put Shawn and I together on TV.
1124
00:49:11,700 --> 00:49:15,240
We will multiply each other's
personalities on screen.
1125
00:49:15,330 --> 00:49:18,000
Put us together. DX is born.
1126
00:49:19,710 --> 00:49:21,880
โ โช Degenerate into something fool โช
1127
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,790
โช We just got tired of doing
what you told us to do โช
1128
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,510
โ Degeneration X consisted of Shawn,
1129
00:49:27,590 --> 00:49:28,970
Triple H, and Chyna.
1130
00:49:29,090 --> 00:49:33,260
Two goofs in Shawn and
Hunter that were immature,
1131
00:49:33,340 --> 00:49:36,640
and did everything that
you weren't supposed to do.
1132
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:38,770
โ Shawn Michaels,
1133
00:49:38,850 --> 00:49:41,400
you're a disgrace to professional wrestling.
1134
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,940
I saw it as inmates had
taken over the asylum.
1135
00:49:45,020 --> 00:49:46,570
I'm gonna start with the degenerate
1136
00:49:46,690 --> 00:49:48,400
right beside you in the green shirt.
1137
00:49:48,490 --> 00:49:50,530
โ โช Degeneration X
1138
00:49:50,610 --> 00:49:53,490
โ Suck it!
1139
00:49:53,570 --> 00:49:55,490
โ Yeah, I can't say I liked it.
1140
00:49:55,570 --> 00:49:57,830
That smut and the crotch shots.
1141
00:49:57,910 --> 00:50:00,000
It did get pretty raunchy.
1142
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,960
โ I don't think it was over the line.
1143
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,210
You know, we were getting
our tails kicked in the ratings.
1144
00:50:05,290 --> 00:50:09,300
DX took it to the very, very tipping point
1145
00:50:09,420 --> 00:50:11,260
of going too far.
1146
00:50:11,340 --> 00:50:12,970
But that's what we needed.
1147
00:50:13,090 --> 00:50:16,930
It was kind of a whole
facelift for the company.
1148
00:50:17,010 --> 00:50:18,010
They loved it.
1149
00:50:18,060 --> 00:50:19,710
Ratings are going up, your segments are hot.
1150
00:50:19,730 --> 00:50:20,810
We are the Degeneration X,
1151
00:50:20,890 --> 00:50:25,190
you make the rules, and we will break 'em!
1152
00:50:25,270 --> 00:50:26,520
โ They were the antiโauthority.
1153
00:50:26,650 --> 00:50:28,150
They could do anything they wanted.
1154
00:50:28,270 --> 00:50:30,150
โ We were just trying to
make each other laugh,
1155
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:32,010
say something so stupid that people would go,
1156
00:50:32,030 --> 00:50:33,990
"Oh, my God, I can't believe he said that."
1157
00:50:34,070 --> 00:50:37,830
Your old lady is not too
thrilled with your privates.
1158
00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:39,890
โ You would think, like,
okay, so now everything's great
1159
00:50:39,910 --> 00:50:41,330
backstage with Shawn. No.
1160
00:50:41,460 --> 00:50:43,150
We're still approaching
this from a place of anger.
1161
00:50:43,170 --> 00:50:44,790
We know we're pissing people off
1162
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,960
and we're trying to be dicks.
1163
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,170
โ I got in trouble for a lot of stuff
1164
00:50:49,250 --> 00:50:50,960
that we all thought was funny,
1165
00:50:51,050 --> 00:50:53,300
and clearly we might have been the only ones.
1166
00:50:53,380 --> 00:50:57,430
I'm goin' out in a blaze of glory!
1167
00:50:59,180 --> 00:51:02,730
โ At that point, Shawn's DX personality
1168
00:51:02,850 --> 00:51:05,560
and his real personality
have kind of morphed,
1169
00:51:05,690 --> 00:51:08,480
so Shawn really never turned it off.
1170
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,820
โ This is what it's come down to,
1171
00:51:10,860 --> 00:51:11,971
they're looking at somebody
1172
00:51:11,991 --> 00:51:14,490
that's got no respect for anything.
1173
00:51:14,570 --> 00:51:17,410
โ There was a true animosity
1174
00:51:17,530 --> 00:51:18,910
between Bret and Shawn,
1175
00:51:19,030 --> 00:51:21,240
just spiraled completely out of control.
1176
00:51:21,370 --> 00:51:25,370
โ In the beginning, Shawn
and Bret were friends
1177
00:51:25,460 --> 00:51:29,630
and the antagonistic relationship
1178
00:51:29,710 --> 00:51:34,090
that they had on camera,
that was all orchestrated.
1179
00:51:34,170 --> 00:51:35,720
But it became personal.
1180
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,260
It became personal between Bret and Shawn,
1181
00:51:38,340 --> 00:51:40,050
because one guy would go too far.
1182
00:51:40,140 --> 00:51:44,310
โ I never knew enough
to avoid the confrontation.
1183
00:51:44,430 --> 00:51:46,690
If something bothered
Bret, I made sure that I did it.
1184
00:51:46,810 --> 00:51:49,650
He stabbed the WWE in the back.
1185
00:51:49,730 --> 00:51:52,980
Why? For his financial gain.
1186
00:51:53,070 --> 00:51:55,030
โ Instead of facing me like a man,
1187
00:51:55,150 --> 00:51:58,700
but you were too busy
posing for girlie magazines.
1188
00:51:58,820 --> 00:52:00,430
You know, you don't like me talking about you
1189
00:52:00,450 --> 00:52:03,660
posing for "Playgirl," but
you did pose for "Playgirl."
1190
00:52:03,750 --> 00:52:07,830
And we finally had a
fisticuff in the dressing room.
1191
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,810
โ Oh, my God, Bret and
Shawn just got into a fight
1192
00:52:09,830 --> 00:52:12,040
and pulled each other hair
in the locker room. What?
1193
00:52:12,170 --> 00:52:13,630
I run over there and find Shawn,
1194
00:52:13,710 --> 00:52:15,170
he's got a big chunk of hair missing
1195
00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:16,610
out of the side of his
head. "What are you doing?"
1196
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:18,220
โ I realize that I hate your guts.
1197
00:52:18,300 --> 00:52:21,140
โ We had a lot of these resets and talks,
1198
00:52:21,180 --> 00:52:23,930
and we would always end
up offending each other quickly
1199
00:52:24,010 --> 00:52:25,890
right after that.
1200
00:52:29,060 --> 00:52:30,230
โ We are live
1201
00:52:30,310 --> 00:52:34,230
in the soldโout Molson
Centre in Montrรฉal, Quebec,
1202
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,610
where tonight, it will finally be settled.
1203
00:52:38,700 --> 00:52:41,370
Who is the man?
1204
00:52:41,490 --> 00:52:43,030
โ Bret is the champion,
1205
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,790
but Bret's on his way to WCW,
1206
00:52:45,870 --> 00:52:49,960
and he doesn't wanna drop the title to Shawn.
1207
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,130
But they couldn't let
Bret leave with the title,
1208
00:52:53,250 --> 00:52:56,630
and then show up on WCW TV the next night.
1209
00:52:56,670 --> 00:52:59,430
โ Who's gonna win?
1210
00:52:59,510 --> 00:53:01,010
โ I don't know.
1211
00:53:01,090 --> 00:53:03,300
โ Bret thought the match
was going to go one way,
1212
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:07,680
Shawn and Vince McMahon
come up with a different plan.
1213
00:53:07,810 --> 00:53:10,020
Bret doesn't know about the plan.
1214
00:53:10,150 --> 00:53:12,610
โ We're being told by Vince,
1215
00:53:12,690 --> 00:53:14,820
like, this goes to your grave.
1216
00:53:14,940 --> 00:53:18,400
This is highโlevel espionage, man.
1217
00:53:18,530 --> 00:53:20,320
Nobody ever knows this.
1218
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,030
โ It's kind of what's best for business.
1219
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,330
โ Look out!
1220
00:53:24,370 --> 00:53:26,200
Shawn Michaels is not gonna waste any time.
1221
00:53:26,290 --> 00:53:28,790
โ The whole thing was uncomfortable.
1222
00:53:28,870 --> 00:53:32,290
I was out there, you know, being Judas.
1223
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,010
โ They had created a spot
1224
00:53:39,130 --> 00:53:42,470
where Shawn was gonna put Bret's move,
1225
00:53:42,590 --> 00:53:46,600
which is a submission hold,
the Sharpshooter, on Bret.
1226
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,310
โ Look at this!
1227
00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:50,140
โ Oh, you're kidding me.
1228
00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:53,150
โ It's definitely one of
the most fabled stories
1229
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:54,480
in our industry.
1230
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,110
The Montreal Screw Job.
1231
00:53:56,190 --> 00:53:58,990
โ It's just minutes into that match,
1232
00:53:59,070 --> 00:54:01,780
not one person on Planet Earth
1233
00:54:01,860 --> 00:54:04,780
thinks the match is going to end.
1234
00:54:04,870 --> 00:54:07,160
โ Are you kidding me?
1235
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,170
โ So when, all of a sudden, the bell rings,
1236
00:54:16,290 --> 00:54:20,380
there's complete confusion
as to why the match has ended.
1237
00:54:20,510 --> 00:54:21,800
โ What happened?
1238
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,720
Bret Hart gave up in a Sharpshooter.
1239
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,800
โ He said, "Bret submitted,"
which didn't happen.
1240
00:54:26,850 --> 00:54:29,930
โ Wow, you talk about controversy.
1241
00:54:30,020 --> 00:54:31,350
โ It was basically a hit
1242
00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:33,980
to make sure that they
got the title off of Bret.
1243
00:54:34,060 --> 00:54:37,310
โ Ring the bell! Ring the bell!
1244
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,780
โ I could see Vince yell
at him to ring the bell.
1245
00:54:39,860 --> 00:54:42,070
โ Ring the bell!
1246
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,840
โ Like, "They're trying to screw me now."
1247
00:54:43,910 --> 00:54:45,410
โ Michaels with a Sharpshooter
1248
00:54:45,490 --> 00:54:48,240
has become the WWE Champion!
1249
00:54:48,330 --> 00:54:52,830
And Bret Hart is standing in disbelief.
1250
00:54:52,910 --> 00:54:54,430
โ He didn't know Vince was coming out.
1251
00:54:54,500 --> 00:54:56,880
I think he just felt like
maybe if he was out there,
1252
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,290
he might get some heat off me,
1253
00:54:58,420 --> 00:55:02,050
you know, thus making my denial plausible.
1254
00:55:10,430 --> 00:55:13,230
Vince says, "I wanna take the heat for this.
1255
00:55:13,350 --> 00:55:14,140
"I don't want anyone to think
1256
00:55:14,230 --> 00:55:15,500
you had anything to do with it."
1257
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:16,730
โ Maybe you could go?
1258
00:55:16,810 --> 00:55:18,190
โ Okay, let's get outta here.
1259
00:55:18,310 --> 00:55:19,770
โ I took the heat, and should have.
1260
00:55:19,860 --> 00:55:23,150
I didn't want anyone to
know Shawn was involved.
1261
00:55:23,240 --> 00:55:27,240
And Bret comes over and
knocks the [bleep] outta me.
1262
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,971
One punch, and knocked him out cold.
1263
00:55:30,991 --> 00:55:33,080
He went straight down on his back.
1264
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,210
Out cold.
1265
00:55:34,330 --> 00:55:38,540
And after I knocked Vince out,
1266
00:55:38,670 --> 00:55:40,210
Shawn was crying.
1267
00:55:40,340 --> 00:55:42,960
Shawn was sat on the bench and was crying.
1268
00:55:43,090 --> 00:55:44,330
โ And even though I didn't feel
1269
00:55:44,380 --> 00:55:46,130
like I did anything wrong that night,
1270
00:55:46,220 --> 00:55:50,390
you're still carrying a burden
by not coming clean with that.
1271
00:55:50,510 --> 00:55:52,680
To say, "Yes, I knew."
1272
00:55:52,810 --> 00:55:54,930
โ Vince asked Shawn to do something
1273
00:55:55,020 --> 00:55:56,850
for everyone in this company.
1274
00:55:56,980 --> 00:55:58,900
Who else would have had the balls,
1275
00:55:59,020 --> 00:56:02,150
the guts, right or wrong,
1276
00:56:02,230 --> 00:56:04,530
how many other people would have done it?
1277
00:56:09,370 --> 00:56:12,240
โ I remember going to
his house in San Antonio,
1278
00:56:12,370 --> 00:56:13,810
and I'm driving my minivan down there.
1279
00:56:13,830 --> 00:56:14,850
I've got my wife and three kids at home,
1280
00:56:14,870 --> 00:56:17,830
and I pull into his gorgeous home.
1281
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,790
I don't have 20 bucks in my pocket.
1282
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,130
And I'll never forget,
1283
00:56:21,250 --> 00:56:24,090
he put his arms out like
this, and he just looked up
1284
00:56:24,170 --> 00:56:27,470
and he goes, "You could have had all this."
1285
00:56:27,590 --> 00:56:30,180
But I realize, you know,
somewhere along the way,
1286
00:56:30,260 --> 00:56:32,390
that I saw him lose so much.
1287
00:56:32,510 --> 00:56:33,680
He got into drugs
1288
00:56:33,810 --> 00:56:36,390
and there were some really
bad side effects to his fame.
1289
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,940
โ I looked at Kenny a lot of times,
1290
00:56:39,020 --> 00:56:40,980
and having a wife and a family,
1291
00:56:41,060 --> 00:56:44,070
and just being as happy as can be.
1292
00:56:44,190 --> 00:56:45,860
And I've always looked at and admired,
1293
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:50,110
and thought it was pretty enviable to have.
1294
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,950
But in my line of work,
it was always wondering
1295
00:56:53,030 --> 00:56:57,500
can you have both, or is that not possible?
1296
00:56:57,620 --> 00:56:59,790
They don't mix.
1297
00:57:03,290 --> 00:57:07,510
โ The following contest is a casket match
1298
00:57:07,630 --> 00:57:12,050
for the WWE Championship!
1299
00:57:14,260 --> 00:57:15,680
โ This casket match
1300
00:57:15,810 --> 00:57:19,730
is the Undertaker's specialty.
1301
00:57:19,810 --> 00:57:21,560
โ The object of a casket match
1302
00:57:21,650 --> 00:57:23,400
is to beat your opponent down far enough
1303
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,400
that you can throw them
into the casket or coffin
1304
00:57:26,530 --> 00:57:27,360
and shut the lid.
1305
00:57:27,490 --> 00:57:31,160
And if you do that, you win the match.
1306
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,160
Somewhere through the course of that match,
1307
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,500
I threw him over this giant coffin...
1308
00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:42,000
โ Michaels' back dropped
1309
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:43,960
on that big old wooden casket.
1310
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,880
I wanted to clear it and go to the floor,
1311
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,300
and I just didn't quite get far enough,
1312
00:57:49,420 --> 00:57:51,050
and bam, I just hit the corner.
1313
00:57:51,180 --> 00:57:53,140
But I didn't really think much about it.
1314
00:57:53,220 --> 00:57:54,530
You know, you still finish the match.
1315
00:57:54,550 --> 00:57:56,760
โ Look at the look on his face!
1316
00:57:56,850 --> 00:57:58,480
The Undertaker dragging Michaels
1317
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,100
right down into the depths of Hell!
1318
00:58:01,190 --> 00:58:03,560
The next day, I just
remember getting up like,
1319
00:58:03,690 --> 00:58:08,320
ah, you know, waking up
and not being able to move.
1320
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,150
First time I recall being in that much pain.
1321
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,660
We do all the Xโrays.
1322
00:58:13,740 --> 00:58:14,780
Apparently, I blew a disc,
1323
00:58:14,870 --> 00:58:18,370
and that's the kind of
stuff that needs to be fused.
1324
00:58:18,500 --> 00:58:21,330
Doctor says, "Oh, you
can't wrestle after that."
1325
00:58:24,420 --> 00:58:27,540
He said I'm never gonna wrestle
again, yadda, yadda, yadda.
1326
00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:29,270
And I said, "Nobody tells me what to do,
1327
00:58:29,340 --> 00:58:32,220
so we're going to WrestleMania with Steve."
1328
00:58:32,340 --> 00:58:35,260
You have never, ever had one of these!
1329
00:58:35,340 --> 00:58:36,930
So you give me enough drugs, all right,
1330
00:58:37,010 --> 00:58:41,640
so let's do whatever we can
to get me to WrestleMania.
1331
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,940
โ Getting Shawn to WrestleMania was a battle.
1332
00:58:46,020 --> 00:58:50,860
He had a bad back, he was heavily medicated.
1333
00:58:50,990 --> 00:58:52,990
He is the WWE Champion
1334
00:58:53,110 --> 00:58:54,390
and the man who will defend his title
1335
00:58:54,410 --> 00:58:55,320
against Stone Cold,
1336
00:58:55,410 --> 00:58:57,450
with Mike Tyson as the Enforcer.
1337
00:58:57,530 --> 00:58:59,910
Here, ladies and gentlemen, Shawn Michaels.
1338
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,700
โ I choose to make an ass
1339
00:59:01,830 --> 00:59:04,710
out of a toughest SOB.
1340
00:59:04,830 --> 00:59:06,580
I can do that anytime I want.
1341
00:59:12,510 --> 00:59:14,430
โ I was gonna have to dope myself up
1342
00:59:14,510 --> 00:59:16,260
and drop the belt to Steve,
1343
00:59:16,340 --> 00:59:19,260
and then I guess I'll let my career be over.
1344
00:59:21,180 --> 00:59:22,600
โ He was bitter.
1345
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,940
It had nothing to do with him losing,
1346
00:59:25,020 --> 00:59:26,480
it had to do with being replaced.
1347
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,610
He never had his moment.
He never had his run.
1348
00:59:29,690 --> 00:59:31,250
I'm still the greatest. And then thisโโ
1349
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:32,490
Now it's his run.
1350
00:59:32,610 --> 00:59:35,910
What do I do? Now I'm the backup guy?
1351
00:59:36,030 --> 00:59:37,140
One of the most messedโup things
1352
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:38,550
I ever heard Shawn say in his life is,
1353
00:59:38,570 --> 00:59:39,910
"I should've taken so many pills,
1354
00:59:39,990 --> 00:59:41,370
"I died after WrestleMania 10.
1355
00:59:41,490 --> 00:59:43,250
"I'd have been the biggest star of all time.
1356
00:59:43,330 --> 00:59:46,151
I'd have been Elvis."
1357
00:59:46,171 --> 00:59:47,580
โ It's hopelessness,
1358
00:59:47,670 --> 00:59:49,540
and certainly, that's where I was.
1359
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:53,300
I am not just, uh, you know, a drug addict.
1360
00:59:53,380 --> 00:59:54,380
I'm an angry one,
1361
00:59:54,420 --> 00:59:56,760
and I mean angrier than ever.
1362
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,600
At that time in my life, that's all I had.
1363
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,470
I identified who I was with
what I was doing in that ring.
1364
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,230
And without it, I wouldn't have
known what to do with my life.
1365
01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:11,230
โ On the day of WrestleMania 14,
1366
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,150
we barely talked.
1367
01:00:13,230 --> 01:00:15,450
He didn't feel like doing business with me.
1368
01:00:15,530 --> 01:00:19,320
Triple H was a conduit between most of it.
1369
01:00:19,410 --> 01:00:20,950
โ He was pissed.
1370
01:00:21,030 --> 01:00:22,970
He wasn't about to talk
to Steve about this match.
1371
01:00:22,990 --> 01:00:25,830
I helped him put it together
by going from room to room,
1372
01:00:25,870 --> 01:00:28,370
and it was justโโit was so difficult to do.
1373
01:00:28,500 --> 01:00:31,290
โ It was difficult. I remember that day.
1374
01:00:31,380 --> 01:00:35,300
I'm thinking, I don't know
what Shawn's going to do.
1375
01:00:35,380 --> 01:00:36,630
โ He's retiring,
1376
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,680
you know, this could be his final screw you.
1377
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,140
โ Nobody has ever, ever outperformed
1378
01:00:43,220 --> 01:00:46,770
Shawn Michaels in a big match situation.
1379
01:00:46,850 --> 01:00:48,270
โ I'm not in great shape.
1380
01:00:48,350 --> 01:00:52,310
My back, pretty bad being in that much pain.
1381
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,650
Get the cortisone shots and stuff like that.
1382
01:00:54,780 --> 01:00:56,820
โ Oh, my God!
1383
01:00:56,940 --> 01:01:00,110
I feel like I'm putting him
over, that's good enough.
1384
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,830
โ Awesome, he got it! The Stunner!
1385
01:01:03,950 --> 01:01:06,370
Mike Tyson in!
1386
01:01:08,670 --> 01:01:10,150
โ Shawn's always been a troublemaker,
1387
01:01:10,170 --> 01:01:12,500
he always wants to get
in your face, talk [bleep].
1388
01:01:12,630 --> 01:01:14,460
Even when he's on your team, he was talking.
1389
01:01:14,540 --> 01:01:17,420
He's an irritant, that's what he is.
1390
01:01:17,510 --> 01:01:23,300
Shawn, um, has sour grapes.
1391
01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:26,970
โ Tyson! Tyson!
1392
01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:28,390
โ It was kind of a close blow,
1393
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:34,190
'cause Shawn was pretty
much out for a little while.
1394
01:01:34,310 --> 01:01:36,190
โ Tyson takes the Austin 3:16 shirt
1395
01:01:36,270 --> 01:01:38,280
and lays it across Shawn's chest.
1396
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,150
This was adding insult to injury,
1397
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,320
and this was rubbing salt in the wound.
1398
01:01:42,410 --> 01:01:44,410
I would have been pissed too.
1399
01:01:44,530 --> 01:01:46,490
โ Not exactly the screw job,
1400
01:01:46,580 --> 01:01:49,250
but it was them getting the last laugh
1401
01:01:49,370 --> 01:01:52,170
as far as, you know, "Good, little prick,
1402
01:01:52,290 --> 01:01:53,710
"you put us through hell this week,
1403
01:01:53,830 --> 01:01:55,950
but we're at least gonna
get you going out the door."
1404
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,300
โ The new WWE Champion,
1405
01:01:58,340 --> 01:02:00,630
Stone Cold Steve Austin.
1406
01:02:02,090 --> 01:02:04,300
He was going to that press conference
1407
01:02:04,430 --> 01:02:06,890
to just let everybody know I'm pissed off.
1408
01:02:07,010 --> 01:02:10,940
He walked in the door
and he yelled some stuff.
1409
01:02:11,020 --> 01:02:12,310
โ Oh, yeah. It's [bleep] up.
1410
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,350
It was justโโit's selfish and it's stupid,
1411
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,360
but, you know, that's
where he was at that time.
1412
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,320
โ Shawn is suffering from ruptured disc
1413
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,070
as we speak, and will not participate
1414
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:25,660
at this press conference.
1415
01:02:25,740 --> 01:02:29,040
Nonetheless, he
participated, uh, in the arena
1416
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:30,660
in an extraordinary way,
1417
01:02:30,750 --> 01:02:32,150
and there is no athlete in the world
1418
01:02:32,170 --> 01:02:35,920
that can say they can do
what Shawn Michaels does.
1419
01:02:43,890 --> 01:02:46,140
โ I got on the plane the next morning
1420
01:02:46,260 --> 01:02:50,310
and went home and began to, I don't know,
1421
01:02:50,350 --> 01:02:52,520
let it all sort of sink in.
1422
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,020
It takes some time
1423
01:02:54,150 --> 01:02:57,860
before it goes from
being time off to the reality
1424
01:02:57,980 --> 01:03:01,440
of how exactly is the
rest of your life gonna go
1425
01:03:01,530 --> 01:03:04,860
when you're done at 33?
1426
01:03:04,990 --> 01:03:07,950
Okay, see if I can get one done here.
1427
01:03:08,030 --> 01:03:09,700
All they knew at the time
1428
01:03:09,790 --> 01:03:12,830
was stuff like that, you don't recover from,
1429
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,120
people don't get back in
the ring and wrestle again.
1430
01:03:15,210 --> 01:03:16,460
The thing is,
1431
01:03:16,580 --> 01:03:20,300
I can't keep coming out here
week after week after week
1432
01:03:20,380 --> 01:03:21,800
going back and forth with all this.
1433
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,470
I get to get busy with my rehabโโ
1434
01:03:24,550 --> 01:03:26,140
My physical therapy.
1435
01:03:26,220 --> 01:03:29,010
My physical therapy for my back.
1436
01:03:30,180 --> 01:03:33,560
Now I've got a legitimate
reason to have pain pills
1437
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:38,230
and I've got a prescription
and everything else.
1438
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:39,690
I just wanna be a pro wrestler.
1439
01:03:39,820 --> 01:03:41,980
That's what I was trying to go back to.
1440
01:03:42,070 --> 01:03:46,030
So I began to start the Shawn
Michaels Wrestling Academy.
1441
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,320
We had a couple of rings,
I had a little workout room.
1442
01:03:48,410 --> 01:03:51,450
There were a couple of guys
that came through my school
1443
01:03:51,540 --> 01:03:54,330
that went on to have WWE success.
1444
01:03:54,410 --> 01:03:56,080
It was a great experience, it really was.
1445
01:03:56,210 --> 01:03:59,840
I did it for about two
and a half, three years.
1446
01:03:59,960 --> 01:04:03,991
So I'm at home, and I'm watching TV,
1447
01:04:04,011 --> 01:04:05,300
and then all of a sudden
1448
01:04:05,380 --> 01:04:06,950
the introduction of this new Nitro Girl.
1449
01:04:06,970 --> 01:04:10,550
โ Tampa Bay girl herself, Whisper.
1450
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:15,520
And she's out there with this chair,
1451
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:20,610
just doing this dance, and it's captivating.
1452
01:04:20,690 --> 01:04:24,030
And she's absolutely the most
beautiful thing I've ever seen.
1453
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:27,910
โ We were at a rehearsal
1454
01:04:27,990 --> 01:04:29,660
and one of the Nitro Girls, Spice,
1455
01:04:29,740 --> 01:04:31,870
had mentioned to me that a
man named Shawn Michaels,
1456
01:04:31,950 --> 01:04:34,450
a former wrestler, wanted to meet me
1457
01:04:34,540 --> 01:04:36,390
and that was the first
time I'd ever heard of him.
1458
01:04:36,410 --> 01:04:37,500
I called her up.
1459
01:04:37,580 --> 01:04:39,380
We probably talked for three hours
1460
01:04:39,460 --> 01:04:41,170
on the phone each night for two weeks.
1461
01:04:41,290 --> 01:04:43,170
โ Two weeks of talking and emailing,
1462
01:04:43,250 --> 01:04:47,220
and then I flew out to
San Antonio to see him,
1463
01:04:47,340 --> 01:04:49,510
and we dated for about two weeks.
1464
01:04:49,590 --> 01:04:51,140
After that he told me he loved me,
1465
01:04:51,220 --> 01:04:52,390
and I told him I loved him.
1466
01:04:52,510 --> 01:04:54,470
Two weeks after that, we got married.
1467
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:58,270
โ It was the Graceland
Wedding Chapel, yeah. Yeah.
1468
01:04:58,350 --> 01:05:00,230
You know, an Elvis impersonator
1469
01:05:00,350 --> 01:05:01,350
walking down the aisle.
1470
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:04,730
It was fantastic.
1471
01:05:04,860 --> 01:05:08,650
It was just the greatestโโ
the greatest thing ever.
1472
01:05:08,780 --> 01:05:12,990
There was one evening
where my pills have kicked in,
1473
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,830
and I'm out of it.
1474
01:05:15,910 --> 01:05:17,960
โ Shawn was in tremendous pain.
1475
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,460
When he would take the muscle relaxers,
1476
01:05:20,540 --> 01:05:25,050
he would usually pass out over his food.
1477
01:05:25,130 --> 01:05:27,510
The very first time that Shawn ever did that
1478
01:05:27,630 --> 01:05:28,860
was when we were first married,
1479
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:30,510
so it was a bit of a shock to me.
1480
01:05:30,590 --> 01:05:32,010
So I got him in the shower,
1481
01:05:32,140 --> 01:05:33,980
'cause he had spilled
food all over his chest,
1482
01:05:34,010 --> 01:05:38,520
and I would say it probably
happened a couple times a week.
1483
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,440
โ The worst time, again,
1484
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,310
was when she was eight months pregnant
1485
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:45,800
and she's doing everything she can,
1486
01:05:45,820 --> 01:05:47,420
at eight months pregnant with her belly,
1487
01:05:47,490 --> 01:05:50,280
trying to hold me up.
1488
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:51,740
โ I took pity on him,
1489
01:05:51,860 --> 01:05:53,990
and I just prayed for him, is all I could do.
1490
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:55,830
But it didn't make me think, you know,
1491
01:05:55,910 --> 01:05:57,700
"What in the world have I gotten into?"
1492
01:05:57,790 --> 01:06:00,710
If I was fearful, I was
fearful for our unborn child.
1493
01:06:00,790 --> 01:06:04,330
And I hoped that it would end
whenever the baby was born,
1494
01:06:04,460 --> 01:06:06,750
and it didn't.
1495
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:11,930
โ Here in Cleveland,
Ohio, we will make history.
1496
01:06:12,010 --> 01:06:14,300
โ I don't remember why Shawn was there.
1497
01:06:14,430 --> 01:06:17,560
He must have been some
doing something in the show.
1498
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:22,440
We all go, me, Taker,
Rock, Vince is in the ring.
1499
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,190
"Now I own WCW."
1500
01:06:24,310 --> 01:06:28,820
Shawn is messed up, pilled up.
1501
01:06:28,900 --> 01:06:32,150
So this is a celebratory moment.
1502
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:36,870
He's belligerent, loud,
falling down, staggering,
1503
01:06:36,990 --> 01:06:42,540
Vince calls him in, tells him,
"Go home, I'm done with you."
1504
01:06:42,670 --> 01:06:45,000
Shawn goes ballistic.
1505
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,460
Walks by me in the hallway, just goes off.
1506
01:06:48,550 --> 01:06:51,510
โ You know, I went
1507
01:06:51,630 --> 01:06:54,510
and browbeat Hunter unfairly, obviously.
1508
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,010
โ And I just went off back,
1509
01:06:57,100 --> 01:07:00,350
you know, in his face,
screaming match back and forth,
1510
01:07:00,430 --> 01:07:01,770
and he storms out.
1511
01:07:01,850 --> 01:07:03,170
โ Now that's another one that makes me cry.
1512
01:07:03,190 --> 01:07:05,150
I went and said some mean stuff to him
1513
01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:06,940
and walked out.
1514
01:07:07,020 --> 01:07:10,530
And, you know,
1515
01:07:10,650 --> 01:07:12,990
that sucks as well.
1516
01:07:14,490 --> 01:07:19,330
โ And I don't talk to him for a long time.
1517
01:07:19,410 --> 01:07:22,580
โ We didn't speak, I don't know,
1518
01:07:22,710 --> 01:07:25,670
I mean I would think at
least a year, two years.
1519
01:07:25,750 --> 01:07:29,090
It was, what do they
call it, the rock bottom.
1520
01:07:36,890 --> 01:07:39,550
โ Our son was at the age to where he was,
1521
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,140
you know, walking around,
more aware of things,
1522
01:07:42,180 --> 01:07:43,680
and it was the night
1523
01:07:43,810 --> 01:07:45,530
when Shawn had fallen asleep on the couchโโ
1524
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:46,650
a drugโinduced sleepโโ
1525
01:07:46,730 --> 01:07:48,560
with our son climbing all over him
1526
01:07:48,690 --> 01:07:50,070
and saying, "Daddy's asleep."
1527
01:07:50,190 --> 01:07:51,980
โ To me, the biggest thing again
1528
01:07:52,070 --> 01:07:54,650
was Cameron saying, "Daddy's tired."
1529
01:07:54,740 --> 01:07:56,780
And it sort of dawning on me
1530
01:07:56,860 --> 01:07:59,570
that he was now being able to recognize
1531
01:07:59,700 --> 01:08:03,250
clearly my state of mind.
1532
01:08:03,330 --> 01:08:05,870
I went into the bathroom and closed the door.
1533
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:07,670
Looking at yourself in the mirror
1534
01:08:07,750 --> 01:08:09,670
and, you know,
1535
01:08:09,750 --> 01:08:12,550
I sat there and cried like a baby and wept,
1536
01:08:12,670 --> 01:08:15,510
you know, realizing that you are failing,
1537
01:08:15,630 --> 01:08:17,741
you know, a twoโyearโold little boy.
1538
01:08:17,761 --> 01:08:19,720
And all of those things
1539
01:08:19,850 --> 01:08:23,020
sort of came crashing down that night,
1540
01:08:23,140 --> 01:08:26,560
and I justโโit's the first time I ever feel
1541
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,980
like such a frickin' failure.
1542
01:08:29,100 --> 01:08:30,670
And I think that that
was the last straw for him,
1543
01:08:30,690 --> 01:08:33,320
and when he woke up the next morning,
1544
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,440
he told me he was never
taking pills or drinking again,
1545
01:08:36,530 --> 01:08:38,490
and from that point, he didn't.
1546
01:08:38,570 --> 01:08:40,490
It was an instantaneous letting go
1547
01:08:40,570 --> 01:08:42,030
of the drugs and alcohol.
1548
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:43,960
โ I just called him up out of the clear blue,
1549
01:08:43,990 --> 01:08:47,040
I just asked him when the
last time he talked to Paul,
1550
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:52,210
and, um, he just avoided that situation.
1551
01:08:52,340 --> 01:08:57,420
I just said, "Man, you're
wrong, you got to call him."
1552
01:08:57,510 --> 01:08:59,090
I called Hunter and let him know,
1553
01:08:59,180 --> 01:09:03,180
you know, how sorry I was
and how out of line I was.
1554
01:09:03,310 --> 01:09:05,310
And I said, "I hope you can forgive me."
1555
01:09:05,430 --> 01:09:07,640
I needed that from Hunter.
1556
01:09:07,730 --> 01:09:09,980
For me, it was easy, like, I didn'tโโ
1557
01:09:10,060 --> 01:09:12,480
as long as it wasn't drugs talking to me.
1558
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,150
โ It's good to see you.
1559
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:16,150
โ Group hug.
1560
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,780
โ Of course, I do regret the pain
1561
01:09:18,860 --> 01:09:20,780
that it caused people in my life,
1562
01:09:20,870 --> 01:09:23,580
but there is a part of
that that I don't think
1563
01:09:23,700 --> 01:09:27,790
that Michael Shawn Hickenbottom can get
1564
01:09:27,870 --> 01:09:30,080
to where he got creatively
1565
01:09:30,210 --> 01:09:35,170
without a little bit of that
reckless, risky mindset.
1566
01:09:35,300 --> 01:09:39,260
I wouldn't have had the guts to do it.
1567
01:09:39,340 --> 01:09:41,720
โ It was our first Christmas together,
1568
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:43,930
and I gave Shawn a Bible
and some other books,
1569
01:09:44,010 --> 01:09:45,850
and he began reading them.
1570
01:09:45,970 --> 01:09:49,480
โ I had never had anything that I could grasp
1571
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,810
that was bigger than the wrestling business.
1572
01:09:51,900 --> 01:09:56,070
That's just not enough to
base, I don't know, a life on.
1573
01:09:57,150 --> 01:09:59,650
โ I worked at Cornerstone
Church in San Antonio, Texas.
1574
01:09:59,740 --> 01:10:02,530
All of a sudden I heard a deep voice said,
1575
01:10:02,620 --> 01:10:04,950
"I want to come to a Bible study."
1576
01:10:05,030 --> 01:10:07,080
And then I got up from my desk
1577
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,330
and stuck my head out the door,
1578
01:10:09,410 --> 01:10:11,250
and I said, "Well, you can come to mine."
1579
01:10:11,370 --> 01:10:13,420
When he left, everybody came out and said,
1580
01:10:13,460 --> 01:10:15,080
"Do you know who that was?"
1581
01:10:15,170 --> 01:10:16,820
I said, "No, I don't know
who that was, who was it?"
1582
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:18,130
And they said, "Shawn Michaels,"
1583
01:10:18,210 --> 01:10:20,170
and I said, "Well, who's Shawn Michaels?"
1584
01:10:22,590 --> 01:10:24,050
He said, "Well, first, Keith,
1585
01:10:24,180 --> 01:10:26,810
I want you to pray for my back."
1586
01:10:26,890 --> 01:10:28,560
He says, "I've been out of wrestling
1587
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:29,810
and I want to go back."
1588
01:10:29,890 --> 01:10:31,560
I said, "Well, there's a simple prayer
1589
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:32,980
that we can pray together."
1590
01:10:33,100 --> 01:10:35,480
And while he was saying that prayer,
1591
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,860
tears just come out of his eyes.
1592
01:10:38,980 --> 01:10:40,990
โ I got nobody to blame but me,
1593
01:10:41,070 --> 01:10:43,990
and I don't have anything in
common with the other dude,
1594
01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:45,910
and I don't know how I got that way.
1595
01:10:46,030 --> 01:10:48,740
It wasn't from family. It
wasn't from upbringing.
1596
01:10:48,830 --> 01:10:50,580
โ He was so desperate
1597
01:10:50,660 --> 01:10:54,710
to get back in that close
relationship with Rebecca
1598
01:10:54,830 --> 01:10:56,420
and his son.
1599
01:10:56,500 --> 01:10:58,290
โ I was now a dad, I was a husband,
1600
01:10:58,340 --> 01:11:03,630
and I was really devoted
and thrilled about that.
1601
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:04,970
โ You're like a child,
1602
01:11:05,090 --> 01:11:07,850
you just want to tell
everybody, "I've been saved."
1603
01:11:14,810 --> 01:11:16,480
โ Once Shawn got his life together
1604
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,730
and found Christ, it was night and day.
1605
01:11:18,820 --> 01:11:20,190
When he looks back at his life,
1606
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,650
that's the biggest thing that he ever did.
1607
01:11:22,740 --> 01:11:24,130
โ You were dealing with the grownup
1608
01:11:24,150 --> 01:11:25,410
when Shawn came back,
1609
01:11:25,530 --> 01:11:28,330
someone who was there to do business.
1610
01:11:28,410 --> 01:11:31,660
Shawn was a lot calmer
and much easier to deal with.
1611
01:11:31,750 --> 01:11:33,330
โ Shawn Michaels of old
1612
01:11:33,460 --> 01:11:35,140
is very different from Shawn Hickenbottom,
1613
01:11:35,210 --> 01:11:36,420
the man I married.
1614
01:11:36,500 --> 01:11:38,460
The sexy boy and all that kinda stuff,
1615
01:11:38,500 --> 01:11:39,750
and his cocky attitude
1616
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:41,630
and the cocky little smile that he does.
1617
01:11:41,710 --> 01:11:45,800
That's so far from who he really is.
1618
01:11:45,930 --> 01:11:47,510
โ I remember somebody asking me,
1619
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:51,060
they said, you know, "Hey, I
heard Shawn found religion."
1620
01:11:51,140 --> 01:11:52,560
Yeah. They laughed,
1621
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:57,480
and I said, "I don't anybody
that died OD'ing on religion."
1622
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,150
โ He had called Triple H.
1623
01:11:59,230 --> 01:12:02,320
He thanked Hunter for the time on the road
1624
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,190
because before his marriage to me,
1625
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,950
the one who took care of him was Hunter.
1626
01:12:09,030 --> 01:12:11,490
That night, after Shawn had gone to bed,
1627
01:12:11,580 --> 01:12:15,250
he woke up in the morning and
the pain was gone in his back.
1628
01:12:15,370 --> 01:12:17,250
It was definitely a miracle.
1629
01:12:17,330 --> 01:12:20,210
So, he was physically
ready to go back in the ring,
1630
01:12:20,340 --> 01:12:24,550
and I knew that the Lord
would take care of him.
1631
01:12:24,670 --> 01:12:26,220
โ We were kind of having conversations
1632
01:12:26,300 --> 01:12:28,220
at the time, and then he said,
1633
01:12:28,340 --> 01:12:29,830
"I want my son to see me do this one time,"
1634
01:12:29,850 --> 01:12:31,370
he said, "But I don't know that I can do it,
1635
01:12:31,390 --> 01:12:33,201
I don't know physically if I can or not,"
1636
01:12:33,221 --> 01:12:34,810
and he said, "If I'm going to,
1637
01:12:34,890 --> 01:12:37,940
I only trust one person, that's you.
1638
01:12:38,020 --> 01:12:40,980
If you consider it, I would love to do it.
1639
01:12:41,060 --> 01:12:44,900
What do you think?"
1640
01:12:45,030 --> 01:12:48,530
โ Moments away from the nonโsanctioned fight
1641
01:12:48,650 --> 01:12:52,160
between two men who
were, at one time, best friends,
1642
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,290
Shawn Michaels and Triple H.
1643
01:12:54,370 --> 01:12:59,880
Shawn Michaels last wrestled 1,609 days ago,
1644
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,540
if you can believe that.
1645
01:13:02,670 --> 01:13:03,840
โ His whole family was there.
1646
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,550
You know, they were all scared to death.
1647
01:13:06,670 --> 01:13:08,340
Got in the ring, did a couple of things.
1648
01:13:10,220 --> 01:13:13,220
Never missed a beat, not
a moment, not an anything.
1649
01:13:13,350 --> 01:13:15,220
โ I was on my chair like a redneck,
1650
01:13:15,310 --> 01:13:17,020
just screaming and yelling for him.
1651
01:13:17,100 --> 01:13:18,390
Of course, I cried at the end.
1652
01:13:18,480 --> 01:13:19,980
โ Like, how is this possible,
1653
01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:25,020
that he is this good
still, after all that time
1654
01:13:25,110 --> 01:13:29,320
and injury and everything else? Unbelievable.
1655
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:33,280
โ It was just as easy as the day is long,
1656
01:13:33,370 --> 01:13:35,160
it was poetic, it was phenomenal,
1657
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,710
it was everything that is
right and good about the world
1658
01:13:38,790 --> 01:13:41,830
in this line of work, and,
you know, my family there,
1659
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:43,460
out there with my best friend.
1660
01:13:43,580 --> 01:13:50,630
โ The Heartbreak Kid, Shawn Michaels!
1661
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:52,300
โ After the Summerslam,
1662
01:13:52,390 --> 01:13:54,720
that's when there was
a sense of peace and joy
1663
01:13:54,850 --> 01:13:57,310
in the midst of doing
your job and your family,
1664
01:13:57,430 --> 01:14:01,770
combining these two worlds
that I've never had together,
1665
01:14:01,850 --> 01:14:03,440
and I'm not even the same person.
1666
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:07,020
And now, and it all feels so right.
1667
01:14:07,110 --> 01:14:08,300
That's as good as it gets, you know,
1668
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,990
it's heaven on Earth here in this room.
1669
01:14:11,070 --> 01:14:13,490
โ Shawn Michaels changed completely
1670
01:14:13,620 --> 01:14:14,870
as a human being.
1671
01:14:14,990 --> 01:14:16,740
And somehow, as a character,
1672
01:14:16,870 --> 01:14:22,370
he managed to keep a lot of
the aura that he always had.
1673
01:14:22,500 --> 01:14:27,090
I could argue that Shawn was
at his best after he came back.
1674
01:14:30,340 --> 01:14:32,130
โ To me,
1675
01:14:32,220 --> 01:14:36,720
the greatest inโring performer
1676
01:14:36,850 --> 01:14:38,810
of all time.
1677
01:14:42,140 --> 01:14:44,230
โ It gets more difficult
1678
01:14:44,350 --> 01:14:46,520
to find a new mountain, a new challenge.
1679
01:14:46,650 --> 01:14:49,150
Sometimes that mountain or that new challenge
1680
01:14:49,190 --> 01:14:50,360
just isn't there.
1681
01:14:50,440 --> 01:14:52,010
And so later on in my career, I learned that
1682
01:14:52,030 --> 01:14:54,780
when I disconnect from it,
something will usually happen,
1683
01:14:54,870 --> 01:14:56,660
and, you know, the one with Flair
1684
01:14:56,700 --> 01:14:59,830
is the one I honestly always speak of.
1685
01:14:59,950 --> 01:15:02,410
Remember the story of Old Yeller?
1686
01:15:02,500 --> 01:15:05,630
The Showstopper's gonna take you, Old Yeller,
1687
01:15:05,710 --> 01:15:10,840
behind the woodshed and
put you out of your misery.
1688
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:15,010
I lost myself in that drama.
1689
01:15:15,130 --> 01:15:16,510
I get a call from my buddy, Kenny,
1690
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,390
who's now been made aware of the match.
1691
01:15:18,510 --> 01:15:20,500
It's like, oh my goodness,
he said, "Can you believe it?"
1692
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:24,310
โ It was overwhelming to think
that the guy that we idolized
1693
01:15:24,350 --> 01:15:28,110
that we would watch a little
TV box in San Antonio, Texas,
1694
01:15:28,190 --> 01:15:30,780
somehow their lives
were going to interconnect.
1695
01:15:30,860 --> 01:15:33,690
Ric was his guy. He
absolutely loved Ric Flair.
1696
01:15:33,780 --> 01:15:36,870
โ Kenny took me back to that time.
1697
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,750
โ This was why I went
from New York to Orlando,
1698
01:15:43,870 --> 01:15:46,670
was to see this moment.
1699
01:15:47,790 --> 01:15:49,250
โ Now in this match,
1700
01:15:49,340 --> 01:15:53,880
should Ric Flair lose, he must retire.
1701
01:15:53,970 --> 01:15:55,260
โ I remember feeling
1702
01:15:55,340 --> 01:15:57,300
like the way Ric Flair started this match,
1703
01:15:57,430 --> 01:16:00,310
that he had a chance.
1704
01:16:02,810 --> 01:16:05,480
โ There's no other way
to put itโโhe carried me.
1705
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:09,060
He gave everything that
anybody could ever give
1706
01:16:09,190 --> 01:16:10,730
to a match that night.
1707
01:16:10,820 --> 01:16:13,690
โ Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute, look out.
1708
01:16:13,820 --> 01:16:16,110
Good grief!
1709
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,070
Oh, not again!
1710
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:19,370
โ It becomes clear
1711
01:16:19,490 --> 01:16:22,740
that Ric Flair just doesn't have enough.
1712
01:16:22,830 --> 01:16:25,750
I love this part, I could
tear up talking about it.
1713
01:16:25,870 --> 01:16:28,790
Flair, like an old dog, still fighting,
1714
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,630
he thinks he still has it.
1715
01:16:30,710 --> 01:16:34,630
And that's when Shawn sort
of has to have that moment
1716
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,130
where he says, "I'm sorry, I love you."
1717
01:16:37,260 --> 01:16:39,260
โ Flair wants to fight.
1718
01:16:39,340 --> 01:16:41,470
โ And just turns the lights out.
1719
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:46,980
It was as beautiful and perfect
an ending to a wrestling match
1720
01:16:47,100 --> 01:16:48,961
as you will ever have.
1721
01:16:48,981 --> 01:16:51,400
โ He knew I didn't want to go,
1722
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,230
and he said, "I love you."
1723
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:55,460
It's a great moment in wrestling.
1724
01:16:55,480 --> 01:16:57,240
I don't care what anyone says,
1725
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,280
you can't replace something like that.
1726
01:17:00,370 --> 01:17:01,660
โ Unashamed
1727
01:17:01,740 --> 01:17:04,120
that it was my love letter to, you know,
1728
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:08,210
the wrestling business and to Ric Flair.
1729
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:16,670
โ It is show day, and
we're off to the shiโzow.
1730
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,260
I've been doing this for 35 years,
1731
01:17:20,340 --> 01:17:21,470
and days like today,
1732
01:17:21,550 --> 01:17:23,490
it's a different kind of
anxiety that I have now.
1733
01:17:23,510 --> 01:17:25,270
I have anxiety for the performers
1734
01:17:25,350 --> 01:17:27,390
for the entire show as a whole.
1735
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,690
For me it's just all fantastic,
1736
01:17:29,810 --> 01:17:32,020
especially when it goes well for them,
1737
01:17:32,150 --> 01:17:33,590
and they come back and they're jacked.
1738
01:17:33,610 --> 01:17:35,400
It's ten times better thanโโ
1739
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:37,150
than when I had that opportunity.
1740
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,200
This is where I'm supposed to be.
1741
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:42,240
I absolutely love it.
1742
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:47,370
โ What moment would you say
1743
01:17:47,500 --> 01:17:49,580
you're most proud of, and
then by the same token,
1744
01:17:49,670 --> 01:17:51,630
what moment would you
say you are least proud of?
1745
01:17:51,670 --> 01:17:53,080
โ Most proud I guess would be
1746
01:17:53,170 --> 01:17:54,630
winning the world title.
1747
01:17:54,710 --> 01:17:58,210
And least proud would
probably be the Montreal incident.
1748
01:17:58,340 --> 01:18:01,180
One is everything you aspire to do,
1749
01:18:01,300 --> 01:18:02,820
and the other is the complete opposite.
1750
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,640
Something you really
don't want to be a part of.
1751
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:09,310
It's the longโterm guilt, it's the shame,
1752
01:18:09,390 --> 01:18:12,190
it's the loathing that you
know this person has for you.
1753
01:18:12,310 --> 01:18:14,020
โ There was so much bad blood between us,
1754
01:18:14,150 --> 01:18:18,610
and I was always like,
if I see him, I'll kill him.
1755
01:18:18,690 --> 01:18:21,150
I've always believed
that I had so much anger,
1756
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:22,780
that I think it led to my stroke
1757
01:18:22,860 --> 01:18:24,490
and lot of things that I went through.
1758
01:18:24,620 --> 01:18:26,010
And I remember thinking about Shawn
1759
01:18:26,030 --> 01:18:28,200
and how we were good
friends once upon a time,
1760
01:18:28,290 --> 01:18:30,500
and, you know, that it wasn't just Shawn.
1761
01:18:30,620 --> 01:18:31,870
I was guilty too.
1762
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,460
And I remember thinking
it'd be good to put it to bed.
1763
01:18:34,580 --> 01:18:37,000
โ And I've certainly talked about my regret
1764
01:18:37,130 --> 01:18:39,670
and the hope for reconciliation.
1765
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:41,720
It took him some time to get there.
1766
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:43,490
Vince had suggested there's gotta be a way
1767
01:18:43,510 --> 01:18:46,970
we can do this live, in front of the world.
1768
01:18:47,010 --> 01:18:48,600
โ I've got 12 years of things
1769
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,000
that I've wanted to get off my chest.
1770
01:18:50,020 --> 01:18:51,270
I want to call back there
1771
01:18:51,350 --> 01:18:53,980
and ask Shawn Michaels to come out here.
1772
01:18:54,060 --> 01:18:55,650
I call for a truce,
1773
01:18:55,730 --> 01:18:57,730
and I call for you to shake my hand.
1774
01:18:57,860 --> 01:18:59,900
The fact that we did that in the ring
1775
01:18:59,980 --> 01:19:02,240
and we shook hands and
all that was very honest
1776
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,160
and very sincere.
1777
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:05,910
โ You know that everybody's watching
1778
01:19:05,990 --> 01:19:07,350
when you are trying to
have this very real moment
1779
01:19:07,370 --> 01:19:08,490
with one another.
1780
01:19:08,540 --> 01:19:10,250
Art does imitate life.
1781
01:19:10,370 --> 01:19:12,580
โ He's matured, and he's a different guy,
1782
01:19:14,540 --> 01:19:15,770
and I thought he finally, you know,
1783
01:19:15,790 --> 01:19:17,420
he's got his priorities all in order.
1784
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:21,090
โ Welcome
1785
01:19:21,170 --> 01:19:23,970
to the 25th anniversary
1786
01:19:24,050 --> 01:19:28,310
of WrestleMania!
1787
01:19:28,390 --> 01:19:31,810
70,000 WWE fans.
1788
01:19:31,930 --> 01:19:34,810
โ By the time Shawn Michaels and Undertaker
1789
01:19:34,940 --> 01:19:37,310
meet at WrestleMania 25, they're veterans,
1790
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:38,770
they've been around forever.
1791
01:19:38,860 --> 01:19:39,860
And somehow,
1792
01:19:39,980 --> 01:19:44,200
they're actually both
in their absolute prime.
1793
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:50,870
โ One of my favorite entrances,
1794
01:19:50,990 --> 01:19:52,370
Shawn as The Undertaker,
1795
01:19:52,450 --> 01:19:56,580
but in all white, ascending from the clouds.
1796
01:19:56,710 --> 01:20:02,460
Such a stark contrast
to what I'm about to do.
1797
01:20:02,510 --> 01:20:05,930
It was the battle between heaven and hell.
1798
01:20:06,010 --> 01:20:07,260
โ Prior to 2002,
1799
01:20:07,340 --> 01:20:09,510
we did not have a great relationship.
1800
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:11,680
We did not like each other outside the ring.
1801
01:20:11,810 --> 01:20:14,520
โ This guy, I genuinely liked now.
1802
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,150
And it had been years and years and years
1803
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:19,860
since we had worked together,
1804
01:20:19,940 --> 01:20:21,900
since the time that he had injured himself
1805
01:20:21,980 --> 01:20:23,480
in the casket match.
1806
01:20:23,570 --> 01:20:24,900
โ Unknown to us at the time,
1807
01:20:25,030 --> 01:20:28,160
we're about to create one of
the most epic things ever done
1808
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:29,830
in the wrestling business.
1809
01:20:29,910 --> 01:20:31,830
โ There's that brash arrogance.
1810
01:20:31,950 --> 01:20:37,080
70,000 chanting HBK
the other half, Undertaker.
1811
01:20:38,710 --> 01:20:41,090
โ Ooh! โ Whoa!
1812
01:20:47,380 --> 01:20:48,880
โ You know when you're in the middle
1813
01:20:49,010 --> 01:20:51,220
of something really special, and we did.
1814
01:20:51,350 --> 01:20:53,430
โ Incoming!
1815
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:57,310
Tombstone piledriver.
1816
01:20:57,390 --> 01:21:00,961
โช
1817
01:21:00,981 --> 01:21:07,360
โ I just remember getting to Shawn,
1818
01:21:07,490 --> 01:21:09,610
and we just embraced, and hugged,
1819
01:21:09,700 --> 01:21:11,200
and thanked each other.
1820
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:12,990
It was an awesome moment.
1821
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:14,910
โ It was on the ride home the next day,
1822
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,210
just settling into me that I just don't know
1823
01:21:17,290 --> 01:21:20,380
that I'm ever going to encounter,
1824
01:21:20,460 --> 01:21:22,460
from a performance standpoint,
1825
01:21:22,540 --> 01:21:24,630
anything greater than that thing
1826
01:21:24,750 --> 01:21:27,210
that I experienced last night.
1827
01:21:27,340 --> 01:21:29,010
โ There's only one match
1828
01:21:29,130 --> 01:21:31,720
that can be considered Match of the Year,
1829
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,390
Shawn Michaels and the Undertaker.
1830
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:42,810
โ Undertaker, I can beat you.
1831
01:21:42,860 --> 01:21:49,530
You and me, WrestleMania, one more time.
1832
01:21:53,030 --> 01:21:56,410
โ So, I remember tuning into WrestleMania 26.
1833
01:21:56,490 --> 01:21:58,250
I had a knot in my stomach
1834
01:21:58,370 --> 01:22:02,120
knowing that if Shawn Michaels
wasn't able to win this one
1835
01:22:02,210 --> 01:22:03,540
that he would retire.
1836
01:22:03,670 --> 01:22:05,500
But it was a beautiful, artistic way
1837
01:22:05,630 --> 01:22:08,050
to end the career of Shawn Michaels.
1838
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:18,390
โ One, two, three!
1839
01:22:18,480 --> 01:22:23,480
โ Shawn Michaels' career is over.
1840
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:25,210
โ My heart was broken. My heart was broken.
1841
01:22:25,230 --> 01:22:27,980
But I'm glad also that he
got to leave on his own terms.
1842
01:22:28,070 --> 01:22:30,690
โ It was important that I get out of there
1843
01:22:30,820 --> 01:22:34,070
to let the fans show him
the appreciation he deserved.
1844
01:22:38,700 --> 01:22:40,710
โ I have to imagine that Tom Brady
1845
01:22:40,830 --> 01:22:44,120
and Michael Jordan, as much
as they appreciate the fans,
1846
01:22:44,210 --> 01:22:46,840
I think more than anything
it's about their teammates
1847
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,170
and the people that they played
that means the most to them.
1848
01:22:55,180 --> 01:22:57,640
A lot of time, there's still a chasing
1849
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,020
of that last perfect one,
1850
01:22:59,140 --> 01:23:01,560
and that's why I'm so appreciative
1851
01:23:01,690 --> 01:23:03,810
that I can define some form of finish line.
1852
01:23:05,100 --> 01:23:07,110
There's two things that I thrive on,
1853
01:23:07,190 --> 01:23:08,500
it's two things that I'm in love with,
1854
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:10,650
which is, you know, Rebecca and the kids,
1855
01:23:10,690 --> 01:23:12,070
and the wrestling business.
1856
01:23:12,150 --> 01:23:14,660
Oh, yeah, my team.
1857
01:23:14,780 --> 01:23:16,740
They're the two greatest loves of my life.
1858
01:23:16,870 --> 01:23:18,990
That's never changed.
1859
01:23:23,250 --> 01:23:24,970
You've probably been to more ladder matches
1860
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,840
than half the people in
the ring, I would imagine.
1861
01:23:29,670 --> 01:23:32,210
And then stops, loads up theโโ
1862
01:23:32,340 --> 01:23:33,630
Whoa, he goes down.
1863
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,470
โ It's awesome for me to have Shawn there.
1864
01:23:36,550 --> 01:23:38,010
I can tell you what he's thinking,
1865
01:23:38,140 --> 01:23:40,520
he can tell you what I'm thinking,
1866
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:41,930
and there's a chemistry there.
1867
01:23:42,020 --> 01:23:43,040
We have this uncanny with each other.
1868
01:23:43,060 --> 01:23:44,810
โ There's just a little something in there
1869
01:23:44,850 --> 01:23:46,730
to do, just a small littleโโ
1870
01:23:46,810 --> 01:23:48,520
โ Shawn's, you know, a legend
1871
01:23:48,650 --> 01:23:52,400
and for a legend to walk into an environment
1872
01:23:52,530 --> 01:23:53,400
full of performers.
1873
01:23:53,530 --> 01:23:54,950
โ Go get them, boys.
1874
01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:57,410
โ They revere him so much.
1875
01:23:57,490 --> 01:23:59,830
โ Welcome to NXT Takeover.
1876
01:23:59,910 --> 01:24:02,830
There is the North American Championship.
1877
01:24:02,910 --> 01:24:04,710
Who will climb the ladder?
1878
01:24:04,790 --> 01:24:06,370
โ Shawn has been a role model
1879
01:24:06,460 --> 01:24:08,250
both in and out of the ring.
1880
01:24:08,330 --> 01:24:09,750
โ Ding, ding, ding.
1881
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:11,460
โ I have so much respect for that man,
1882
01:24:11,590 --> 01:24:14,300
for not just what he's done
for professional wrestling,
1883
01:24:14,380 --> 01:24:15,610
but for the type of person he is.
1884
01:24:15,630 --> 01:24:16,800
โ
1885
01:24:16,930 --> 01:24:20,470
โ To me and so many
others, he's the greatest.
1886
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:26,190
And it's insane how kind, generous,
1887
01:24:26,310 --> 01:24:27,310
and humble the guy is.
1888
01:24:27,350 --> 01:24:28,770
โ That is good stuff.
1889
01:24:28,850 --> 01:24:31,520
โ Sometimes I think he doesn't realize
1890
01:24:31,650 --> 01:24:32,650
that he's Shawn Michaels.
1891
01:24:32,690 --> 01:24:36,780
Step carefully. Whoa! Gee.
1892
01:24:38,530 --> 01:24:41,700
Oh, my God!
1893
01:24:41,790 --> 01:24:43,120
That was frickin' great!
1894
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,910
When you said a tale of two lives,
1895
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:50,460
that's what it's been.
1896
01:24:50,580 --> 01:24:52,630
Believe it or not, the same business
1897
01:24:52,710 --> 01:24:54,840
that might have almost killed me,
1898
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,050
I think, is the same business that saved me.
1899
01:24:57,130 --> 01:24:58,840
No, you did a great job, phenomenal.
1900
01:24:58,970 --> 01:25:00,140
Thank you very much.
1901
01:25:00,220 --> 01:25:02,760
โ These guys are easy to work with, soโโ
1902
01:25:02,850 --> 01:25:05,890
โ I know I accomplished
more than what I wanted.
1903
01:25:06,020 --> 01:25:08,650
I never lost touch with the 19โyearโold dude
1904
01:25:08,770 --> 01:25:12,020
that was hoping to have
a car and an apartment,
1905
01:25:12,110 --> 01:25:14,610
and be the Southwest Heavy weight champion.
1906
01:25:14,690 --> 01:25:16,971
A lot more has happened since then.
1907
01:25:16,991 --> 01:25:23,160
Whoa!
1908
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,200
Jiminy Cricket.
1909
01:25:25,330 --> 01:25:30,170
Holy Toledo.
1910
01:25:30,210 --> 01:25:34,250
โ That's like the Shawn thing.
That's like the Shawn dance.
1911
01:25:34,340 --> 01:25:37,460
โ Golly!
1912
01:25:37,550 --> 01:25:39,590
Frickin' awesome.
1913
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,340
โ โช I'm just a sexy boy
1914
01:25:41,470 --> 01:25:43,850
โช Sexy boy
1915
01:25:43,930 --> 01:25:48,980
Oh, goodness gracious! That is good stuff.
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