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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,960 LINGLEY: Emfleet Nick just called, 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:03,800 they've got suspected human remains 3 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:04,960 found in Whitney Marsh. 4 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,960 My guess is this body was put in there already dismembered. 5 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,480 JESS: To what do I owe this? I just thought you'd... like it. 6 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,960 Why did my husband cook me sea bass? 7 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,960 So you now just attack random girls for literally no reason at all? 8 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,960 She made a joke about you and Dad. Sorry, Dad. 9 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,960 And happy birthday. 10 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:23,800 I'm getting stronger every day. 11 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,960 So he will never walk unaided? Come on. 12 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,000 HASSAN: I have a watertight case. 13 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,800 Given my story, I can prove that I will be killed if I went back. 14 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,960 SUNNY: We have a match. So, his name is Gerard Samuel Cooper. 15 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,640 The OIC on the case was actually jailed in 2022. 16 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,960 A guy that I charged myself, a guy called Ram Sidhu. 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,960 # All we do is hide away 18 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,960 # All we do is All we do is hide away 19 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,960 # All we do is lie and wait 20 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:09,960 # All we do is All we do is lie and wait 21 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:13,960 # I've been upside down 22 00:01:13,960 --> 00:01:17,960 # I don't wanna be The right way round 23 00:01:17,960 --> 00:01:20,960 # Can't find paradise on the ground 24 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:43,320 Like I said, I don't know this guy personally, 25 00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:44,960 but everyone says he's fine. 26 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:48,960 So as long as you work hard and do the job, 27 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,960 he's not interested in anything else. 28 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,960 You finish at five today, OK? I'll be waiting for you here. 29 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,960 Thank you. Have a good day, my friend. 30 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,320 MAN: 'Question 15: how many royal parks are there in London?' 31 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,960 So, he was identified through comparison with a DNA swab taken 32 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,640 after he was charged with a Section 47 ABH 33 00:02:35,640 --> 00:02:38,800 on July 16th 2019. 34 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:39,960 All of his files are on COMPACT, 35 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,960 and a quick squint suggests they thought he had fallen into debt 36 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,480 during the pandemic. 37 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,960 His car was found parked near the Elizabeth Bridge 38 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,960 two weeks after he was reported missing by his wife, 39 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,960 who we will be speaking to asap. 40 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,960 We will also be speaking to DCI Ram Sidhu, 41 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,960 the original investigating officer. 42 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,960 So, right now, 43 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,960 I need all the original investigation paperwork 44 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,960 inputted into HOLMES, please. Yeah. 45 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,960 Ditto with the 2019 assault. Guv. 46 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,960 And can we check who maintains Whitney Marsh Car Park CCTV, 47 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,960 how long they keep their video files? 48 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,960 And if there's any data entry at the car park 49 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,960 or pay online facilities? Sure. On it. 50 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,480 OK, that's it for now, guys. Thanks, guys. 51 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,960 You told me to tell them to shove it up their arse. 52 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,960 Of course I didn't tell them that. So what did you say? 53 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,960 That you were considering their request. Fuck sake! 54 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,800 It's the union, Jules, 55 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,960 it's not a good idea to back them into a corner. 56 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,960 And it doesn't scare you that even soft soaping them, 57 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,960 dishonestly, as it happens, 58 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,960 even that merest hint of dissent 59 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,960 has caused my board to be daubed with "racist"? 60 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,960 Ah, it's obviously not ideal, but... 61 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:17,960 But what? 62 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,480 They effectively pay our salaries. 63 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,960 Oh, well, yeah, 64 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,960 and what a catastrophic fucking mistake that was. 65 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,960 We're now all in the thrall of sodding children. 66 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,960 I mean, think back to when you were 21. 67 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,960 Yes, exactly. 68 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,960 I mean, seriously, Paul, 69 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,800 they don't understand real life yet, 70 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,960 with all its shit compromises and... 71 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,960 and messy, imperfect solutions. 72 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,960 And surely... part of our job is to teach them about that. 73 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,960 It's just an online course. It'll only takes a few hours. 74 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,000 Isn't it just easier to say yes? 75 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,960 You know what, it actually isn't. 76 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:16,960 Because what will it be next? 77 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,960 It's also not fair to us, sure, 78 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,960 but much more importantly, it's not fair to them. 79 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,960 DOOR SHUTS 80 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,960 Marty. Marty! 81 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:33,960 Martin! 82 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,800 Marty, please. I need to go toilet. 83 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,960 Pickle! Mummy needs to wee-wee! 84 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:50,960 How bad? 85 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,960 Very bad. 86 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,960 And what makes you think it's getting any worse? 87 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,640 Everything. 88 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,960 And when you say "everything"? 89 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:06,160 My dad... Mr Cooper... that place. 90 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,960 The pub? 91 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:10,960 And if I had a girlfriend... 92 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,000 So, maybe we can up your dose to 100mg. 93 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,960 I have the right to have a girlfriend and... 94 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,000 We're not going down that rabbit hole again, Marty. 95 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,960 Women can get a boyfriend whenever they want, so... 96 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,960 No woman has the right to have a boyfriend, 97 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,320 no man has the right to have a girlfriend, 98 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:25,960 we've been through this too many times. 99 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,800 I'm just so tired of it. 100 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,960 Not understanding anything. 101 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:35,960 I know, mate. 102 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,960 What did I do wrong, Dr Renfield? 103 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,960 You didn't do anything wrong, Marty. And it's certainly not your fault. 104 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,960 Life is just... unfair sometimes. 105 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,960 So, I'm going to up your Sertraline to 100mg, 106 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,960 and I'm gonna refer you to a new autism service 107 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,960 being set up by Kent Council. 108 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,960 I should say that it might take a year or so 109 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,960 to get an appointment, er... 110 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,960 they're a bit snowed under right now. 111 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:11,960 So, we'll... 112 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:14,960 ..see each other in three months? 113 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,480 I should say, raising the dose might give you some side effects, Marty. 114 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,960 Call us immediately if you start to have any trouble sleeping, 115 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,160 if you feel more anxious, if you have any violent... 116 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,960 Dr Renfield? Marty. 117 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,960 Duncan. Do you wanna come through? 118 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,960 Hey. Hey. 119 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,960 I heard... Paddy was struggling. 120 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,960 Yeah, yeah, he's not brilliant. 121 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,000 Oh, Mel, I'm so sorry. 122 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,960 You wanna... talk things over? 123 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,960 OWN LANGUAGE: 124 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:21,960 So, we only have one session with this guy. 125 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,960 But he basically tells us 126 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,960 what sort of therapist he thinks we need. 127 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,640 So, see a therapist to see what kind of therapist we need. 128 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:34,960 Yeah. 129 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,960 Bit nuts, I know. You certainly are. 130 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,960 Oi. 131 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:01,960 THEY MOAN 132 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,960 I'm sorry. 133 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,960 Wanna get a drink? 134 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,960 And I've... I've just asked for the search to be widened, so... 135 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,160 ..it may yet be that we do... find more of him. 136 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,320 How could someone do that... 137 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,960 ..to another human being? How could someone do such a terrible thing? 138 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,960 It's pretty much always about disposal. 139 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,960 If it doesn't sound too absurd, it's generally not personal. 140 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,960 TEARFULLY: Oh, my God, how am I gonna tell my daughter? 141 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,960 JULIET CRIES 142 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,960 And where was it you said you found him? Whitney Marsh? 143 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,960 I always knew he hadn't jumped. 144 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,480 In here.... 145 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,960 ..I always knew, and I told them, I told them so many times. 146 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,320 The original investigation? 147 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,960 I told them I thought his death had probably been violent. 148 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,960 OK, can I ask why you thought that? 149 00:11:58,960 --> 00:11:59,960 Because of the money. 150 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,960 OK, sorry, can we just... 151 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,320 can we just backtrack a minute? 152 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,960 MAN: 'Women don't even like that shit, bro. 153 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,960 'They like to know who's boss, innit?' 154 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,960 KNOCKING ON DOOR 'They like a strong man, 155 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,480 'that's just fuckin' nature.' 156 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,960 MAN: 'Smack them bitches up, man. They're gonna love you more.' 157 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:18,960 MAN LAUGHS 158 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,960 Hang on one second, dudes. 159 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,800 KNOCKING ON DOOR 160 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,960 Hello, Marty, how are we today? 161 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,960 Fine, thank you for asking. 162 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,480 He took on the lease of a pub in Stepney in 2014. 163 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,960 His uncle had managed it in the '80s, 164 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,960 and it was a bit of a home from home for Gerry. 165 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,000 So, that was his main job, 166 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,800 but we also had three rental properties. 167 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,640 These where flats, or...? No, HMOs. 168 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,960 Two had seven rooms, one had five. 169 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,960 It was quite a lot of work, and... 170 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,960 and we also had fairly large mortgages on all three buildings. 171 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,960 You had to be on top of tenancies and payments. 172 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,960 Sorry, you did this with him, or...? 173 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,960 No, no, I work at Central London University. Oh, right. 174 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:09,960 As...? 175 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,960 A lecturer, modern history. Oh, OK, I'm sorry, carry on. 176 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,800 Yeah, so, things were pretty tight, 177 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,960 but absolutely manageable. 178 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,960 And the first five years or so in Stepney were great. 179 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,960 Gerry had grown up near there, in Bow, and he just... 180 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,480 he just dived back into that life. 181 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,960 Lots of local community stuff and... 182 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:34,960 ..yeah, he really loved it. 183 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,960 And then the pandemic happened, 184 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,960 and it was just like a perfect storm. 185 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,960 Obviously, the pub had to shut, so that revenue went. 186 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,960 And then the tenants, one-by-one, stopped paying their rent, 187 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,960 so we... we basically just got deeper and deeper into debt, 188 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,960 which is when he, without telling me, 189 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,960 I should say... spoke to a friend of a friend of a friend 190 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,800 and started borrowing money from people he really shouldn't have. 191 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:04,960 Moneylenders. 192 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,960 That makes them sound much more respectable than they were, 193 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,960 I think they were basically gangsters. OK. 194 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,960 And how did you find out about them? 195 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,960 EXHALES SHAKILY 196 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,960 So, he was attacked... 197 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,960 early February 2021, 198 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,960 as he was putting the bins out one night. 199 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,960 OK. And you think by one of them? Yeah, I do. 200 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,960 And did he say it was by one of them? 201 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:25,960 No, but at that stage, 202 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,960 I still didn't know he'd borrowed any money, so... 203 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,960 And how badly hurt was he? Well, they didn't break anything. 204 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,960 Probably too clever for that, but he was knocked out. 205 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,960 And you went to the police? I called them, yeah. And? 206 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,960 Well, Gerry was obviously not that helpful. 207 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,000 In hindsight, he was probably scared, 208 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,800 so, I mean, the police had very little to go on. 209 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,960 And it was only after we rowed about that 210 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,960 that he FINALLY told me what was going on. 211 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,960 OK. And how much did he owe them? 212 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,960 By that point, he said it was about ยฃ17,000. 213 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,960 And did you ever get any names of these people? 214 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,960 I think I only ever met one of them once. 215 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,480 Some guy called Markaj came to the pub, asking for Gerry, 216 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:05,960 five days after the attack. 217 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:06,960 Markaj. Yeah. 218 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,960 Looked and sounded Mediterranean. I think... 219 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,960 Gerry said they were Albanian. OK. 220 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,960 So... can you talk us through what happened 221 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:19,960 the day he disappeared? 222 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,640 Can I just take a break? I need to check on my daughter. 223 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,960 Yeah. Yeah, of course. 224 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:06,960 DOOR OPENS 225 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,960 MELINDA: You think you have everything mapped out. 226 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,960 You can see the next 20... 227 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,800 ..30 years. 228 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,960 And then out of nowhere... 229 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,960 ..this thing happens, and it shifts everything... 230 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:33,960 ..forever. 231 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,320 PHONE BUZZES 232 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:46,960 SHE SIGHS 233 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,480 I'm so sorry, I have to take this. It's my producer. 234 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,960 Er... Yeah. 235 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,960 Gabe? 'Mel.' 236 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,960 Sending you an article from the Express for your next piece. 237 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,960 'Gabe?' Ciao. 238 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,800 And are you managing to get into the shower, Dot? 239 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,640 Yeah, yeah. Yeah? Yeah. 240 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,960 How'd you do that, then, if you find it hard using your walker? 241 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,160 Does Marty help you? Yes, yes, he helps me. 242 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,960 And how did you get that bruise on your face? 243 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,000 She slipped, silly-billy... as I got her out of the shower. 244 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,960 Oh, dear. 245 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:28,960 Yeah. DOT CHUCKLES 246 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,960 Dotty old Dot! THEY LAUGH 247 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,960 Marty? 248 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,640 Do you wanna have a quick sit down? Cos I just need a quick chat. 249 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,480 So, look, as I've said before, 250 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,320 and I really do feel this strongly now... 251 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,960 I'm not sure Mum's being looked after as well as she needs, Marty. 252 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,960 She's fine. Aren't you, Mum? 253 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:56,960 Yes, I'm fine. 254 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,960 Well, I'm not completely sure you are, my love, so... 255 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,960 I'd like to speak to social services... 256 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,960 No. ..and get them to come and do a proper assessment. 257 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:06,960 I'm not going into a home. 258 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,960 We just need to make sure you're safe, Dot. 259 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,960 I can't leave him on his own. 260 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,960 He-He... He can't cope. CHANTS: Mum, Mum, Mum... 261 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,960 Look, all we need is some more help here. 262 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,960 CHANTING INTENSIFIES 263 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,960 DOREEN SIGHS 264 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,000 Cheese and pickle do you? Yeah! 265 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,960 CHANTING CONTINUES 266 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,640 It's all right. 267 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:32,960 It's all right, Marty. It's all right. 268 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,640 Ssh, ssh, ssh, ssh, ssh, ssh, ssh. 269 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,800 The 24th was our wedding anniversary, 270 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,000 and we were meant to be having a meal together later that evening. 271 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,960 It's OK, take your time. 272 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,960 JULIET SIGHS I got back from work at about six... 273 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,960 ..made Taylor her tea, 274 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,960 and then she went upstairs to do some homework... 275 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,960 Sorry, you lived here then? 276 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,960 No, I bought this place after he died. 277 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,320 We were living above the pub in 2021, 278 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,320 we had a... a two-floor flat there. Oh, OK, right. 279 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,960 So, erm... 280 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,960 Taylor went upstairs, and I started cooking for myself and Gerry. 281 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,960 I'd expected him at about 6:30, 282 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,960 and then when he hadn't turned up by 7:30, I started to call him. 283 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,960 Over the next four or five hours, I called multiple times. 284 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,960 I called his friends, his family. 285 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:23,960 Then I checked his diary and saw 286 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,960 he was meant to be having a meeting with a colleague from the brewery, 287 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,960 so I rang her. 288 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,960 And she said he'd rung half an hour 289 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:36,160 before their meeting at four to cancel, which was very unlike Ger. 290 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,960 And where was the meeting? Winchester. 291 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,960 And then eventually, at about midnight, I called the police. 292 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,960 And what was their response? 293 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,480 They just assumed we'd had a row 294 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,960 and that he'd turn up at some point tomorrow, 295 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,960 even though I told them that that wasn't... him... 296 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:53,960 that wasn't us. 297 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,960 I called again the following day, out of my mind now with worry, 298 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,160 and finally, that night, 299 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,960 two officers came and took a statement. 300 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,960 And you told them about the assault and the loan sharks? 301 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,960 Yes, of course. 302 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,960 And... And what was their reaction to that? 303 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,960 After there was no credit card spending or phone use, 304 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,960 they said they were upgrading him to high risk 305 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,640 and that they were putting resources into it, 306 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,960 but my sense was their investigation was... 307 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,960 always perfunctory, at best. 308 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,000 So they thought, what, he'd... just walked out? 309 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,000 Until they found his car near the Elizabeth Bridge. 310 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,960 And then they decided, 311 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,000 with a third UK lockdown beckoning, that he'd jumped. 312 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,960 But you never believed that? 313 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:35,960 His car was by that bridge 314 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,960 because one of our rentals is a hundred yards from there, so no. 315 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,960 And then nine months later, I saw the officer 316 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,320 who led the investigation was charged with corruption... 317 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,960 Yeah, and I-I should say we are very sorry for that. 318 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,960 And I asked for the case to be re-opened, but nothing happened. 319 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,960 So, no, they didn't exactly inspire me with confidence. 320 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,960 No, I can imagine. 321 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:53,960 But... JULIET SIGHS 322 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,960 Listen. Could we maybe pick this up tomorrow? 323 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,960 I really think I need to be with my daughter now. 324 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:03,160 Of course. Yeah. We're only over in Euston. 325 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,960 It would be great if it were tomorrow. 326 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,960 I'm in the office all day. 327 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,160 MARTY: Doreen? 328 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:16,960 Doreen? 329 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:20,960 Doreen? 330 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,960 I-I'm going to get a job so we can pay for more help at home. 331 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,960 You don't need to get a job, Marty, you won't have to pay for anything. 332 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,960 Don't take her away, though. We like it how it is. 333 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,960 We just need to make sure you're both safe, Marty. 334 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,960 Well, I like it here. I know. 335 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,960 I've always liked it here. Of course you have. 336 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,320 Mum likes it here, too. 337 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,000 Well... A-A-And we need each other. 338 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,800 Go on inside, or you'll catch a death. 339 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,960 Thanks so much. Taylor not at school today? 340 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,960 She wasn't feeling too well. 341 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,960 Call me as soon as you know your movements. Will do. 342 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,800 I hope it goes OK with her. 343 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:17,960 Thank you. 344 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:24,960 DOOR OPENS, CLOSES 345 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,960 What are you thinking? 346 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,960 I'm thinking... that's a very nice house. 347 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,960 I'm thinking the kid's at a 25K-a-year school. 348 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:46,960 Thinking life insurance. 349 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,960 IN OWN LANGUAGE: 350 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,160 Get out. What? 351 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,640 Get out, walk back over there, and apologise. 352 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,800 You are joking. Now! 353 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,960 This is not fair, Asif. Life's not fair, mate. 354 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,320 If it was, my brother would still be alive. 355 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,960 Now go back over there... and apologise. 356 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,160 EXHALES 357 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,960 Killed by who? 358 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,960 Well, that's what they're now gonna try to find out, sweetie. 359 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:47,960 Where was he found? 360 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,960 In a place called Whitney Marsh, it's about 15 miles east of here. 361 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,960 And... what did they find, just like a skeleton? 362 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,960 Yeah, sort of, I guess. 363 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,960 I don't really have the details on that yet. 364 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:08,960 Are you sure it's him? 365 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,960 They did a DNA comparison test. It's definitely him. 366 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,960 SNIFFS 367 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:23,960 How did he die? 368 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,800 How was he...? 369 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,480 They're not sure yet. 370 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,960 It's OK to cry... 371 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,960 ..sweetheart, to be angry. 372 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,960 You scream and shout if you want. 373 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,960 Just always thought it was me. 374 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,960 What was you? 375 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,000 Why he jumped. 376 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,960 I just, erm... 377 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,960 I thought he mustn't have liked me enough to stay around. 378 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,960 Oh, my God, no. 379 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,960 He would never have thought that, 380 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,960 even if that had been how he died, he adored you. 381 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,960 Tay, you were his life. 382 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,320 Tay? It's fine. 383 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,960 It's fine. I'm fine. I've got homework to do. 384 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,640 OK. Not too long on that, boys, OK? 385 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,960 SIGHS 386 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,960 DIAL TONE RINGS 387 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,000 DEBBIE: 'Hey?' 388 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,960 Jessie? 389 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:37,960 Hey. 390 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,640 Hello. How are you? 391 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,160 'I've missed you so much.' 392 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,960 I just was calling to see if, erm... 393 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,960 ..if maybe we could meet up, just the two of us, to talk? 394 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:01,960 I'd like that. 395 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,960 OK, I'll text you some dates. 396 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,000 Thank you. 'And maybe don't, erm...' 397 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,960 ..don't say anything to Mum just yet. 398 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,960 Of course, whatever you want. 399 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,960 OK. Bye. 400 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,640 PHONE BEEPS 401 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,960 So, I'm... So, I'm sitting at the bar, OK, 402 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,960 and she's already 15, 20 minutes late by this point. 403 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,320 And I look, and I see her walk in, 404 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,960 and I sort of raise my hand, and she sees me. 405 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,320 And then I actually see her eyes narrow 406 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,960 in a kind of "hm, not sure" narrow... 407 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,960 No, stop it. ..you know what I mean? 408 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,640 So, I'm sitting there, I'm smiling and stuff, 409 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,480 and I watch her walking over. 410 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,960 And I stand up ready to kind of shake hands, or kiss, whatever. 411 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,960 And except about ten feet away, she suddenly stops. 412 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,320 And, you know, I say hi and put my hand out, 413 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,480 and she just looked at me and goes... 414 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,960 "..Nah." No way! 415 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,800 I promise you, and then turns around and walks out. 416 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,000 Stop it. No, I promise you. She just... 417 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,640 "Nah." Oh, my God. 418 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,960 LAUGHING: And I'm kind of like... 419 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,960 not even a kind of like "Oh, you know, you're too short, 420 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,960 "you're too old, you're too brown," nothing, just, "Nah." 421 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,640 And then.... And... And I don't know why, Lee, 422 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,960 but that was the moment I decided to stop online dating. 423 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,960 Yes, well, you know, good for you. 424 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,960 Well, thank you very much. Good decision, I think. 425 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,960 I think so. 426 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,960 Jesus, what... Yeah. 427 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,960 What is it? 20 pages, 30? 428 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,960 24, including two blank sheets. 429 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,960 So how long did DCI Sidhu get? 430 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,960 Not long enough. 431 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,960 Anyway, I've asked Fran to go through it, 432 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,960 and I thought we could do a briefing with the entire team 433 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,960 straight after this? Yeah. Cool. 434 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,480 Thanks for coming in. Can I get you a coffee? 435 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:21,800 Would you like a coffee? 436 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,800 JULIET: White, please, no sugar. Black, please. 437 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,160 How you doing? All right, thanks. 438 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,960 MELINDA: 'So that's it from me. 439 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,960 'Until tomorrow, good luck, good night, and blah, blah, blah.' 440 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,160 Sounds very much to me like you're trying to get our audience 441 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,960 to panic a bit there, Mel. 442 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,960 'No.' Sounded a little bit Net Zero, if I'm honest. 443 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,960 Well, I guess when you've got hospitals in Southern Spain 444 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,960 where half the beds in the burns unit are occupied 445 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,160 by people whose feet got burned by the pavement, Gabe, then, yeah... 446 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,960 it's a little bit freaky, is my "red hot" opinion. 447 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,960 'Our audience don't care about your opinion.' 448 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,960 They don't care about mine or anyone's here. 449 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,960 'They just wanna hear their own.' Yeah, but you hired me because... 450 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,960 The only reason they watch us and not Patriot or Chat or Info 451 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:02,960 or any of the million others out there... 452 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,960 so we give them their opinion, or we lose them. 453 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,960 And then we're all out of a job. So rewrite. 454 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,960 When he died, 455 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,960 the landlord of the pub obviously took back the tenancy, 456 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,960 so for a while, we were couch surfing. 457 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,960 But over the next year, I was able to sell the HMOs, 458 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:28,960 pay off the mortgages, 459 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,160 and there was enough equity left to buy where we live now. 460 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,960 And what was the name of the pub? The Three Crowns. 461 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,960 It's flats now. And did he have life insurance? 462 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,960 Yeah, although I... 463 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,320 I actually didn't even know he'd taken it out 464 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,960 until after he was declared dead. 465 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:44,960 When had he taken the policy out? 466 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,960 2015. And how much did it pay out? 467 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,960 About 400. Thousand? 468 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,960 Yeah. And was there anyone else that you were aware of? 469 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,960 Any conflicts, disputes, rows that you think we should know about, 470 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,960 anyone who might have had beef with him? 471 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,960 I guess maybe one of his tenants. 472 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,000 One specifically, or... No. 473 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,960 No, I mean generally. 474 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,320 The houses were in deprived areas, 475 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,640 and he often rented to people living slightly on the edge. 476 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,160 And it's like I said yesterday, 477 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,640 lots of them stopped paying during the pandemic, 478 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,960 so, yeah, he had lots of disputes with them in 2020. 479 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,160 And do you have records of all the tenancies from around this time? 480 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,960 Somewhere. Might need to see those, please. 481 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,960 OK. And you said he was born in Stepney, I think? 482 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,640 Bow. Bow. 483 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,960 And what was his relationship like with locals? 484 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:32,960 Really good. 485 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,960 People loved Gerry, I mean, 486 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,960 you could stop a hundred people on the streets where we lived 487 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,640 and ask them what they thought of him, and they'd all say the same... 488 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,960 "Yeah, great bloke." 489 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,160 OK. And then lastly, how was your relationship? 490 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,960 Our relationship? Our relationship was fine. 491 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:52,960 Can you elaborate on that? 492 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,160 Not really. It was a happy marriage. 493 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,640 How did you guys meet? How did we meet? 494 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,960 We often like to get a wider picture of someone 495 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:06,960 in a case like this. 496 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,960 Small details that you might think unimportant 497 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,960 might give us a clue that will help us in our investigation. 498 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,960 We met through politics. 499 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,640 We were both members of our local Labour Party. 500 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,960 And when was this? Early 2009. 501 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,960 OK. He'd just been through a rather painful divorce, and... 502 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,960 we met at a local election hustings one night, and... 503 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,960 ..yeah, we just clicked. 504 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,960 Four months later, we were married. And Taylor was born when? 505 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,960 Late 2009. 506 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,960 OK, thank you so much. I think we're done. 507 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,960 OK. Thank you. 508 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,960 Yeah, nothing I can put my finger on. 509 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,320 But off? Oh, boss. 510 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,960 There's no record in any files I can find 511 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,320 of Juliet Cooper asking for the case to be re-opened 512 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,480 after Sidhu was prosecuted. 513 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,960 Yeah... off. 514 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,960 JESS: So, obviously, the initial investigation 515 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,960 was more than a little flimsy, with no indication 516 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,960 anyone even attempted to identify the loan sharks. 517 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,800 Now, my sense is that 518 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,960 that whole angle does seem a little confected, 519 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,960 but COMPACT does detail an Erjon Markaj, 520 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,320 who we will be speaking to. 521 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,960 His family has lots of form. 522 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,640 And I will be speaking to Ram Sidhu later today. 523 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,960 Kaz, you have any luck with the CCTV? Yes and no. 524 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,960 Camera's maintained by Havering Council, 525 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,960 but they only keep footage for 90 days. Yep. 526 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,960 But I did see that there were a couple of notices in the car park 527 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,960 about car theft, so I wondered if it might be worth checking to see 528 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,960 if there were any incidents in the weeks after he was reported missing? 529 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,960 Because that footage might be preserved somewhere? 530 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,000 Yeah, in a car theft case file. 531 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,960 And if the body was brought in by car... Yeah, good shout. 532 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,960 So he was reported missing on the 24th of February. 533 00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:02,960 I'm thinking checking up till maybe end of March? Go for it. 534 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,320 So, as we now know, 535 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,960 Mr Cooper was also the victim of an assault 536 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,960 in his pub car park three weeks before he disappeared. 537 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,800 Murray, can you pull up the CRS files on that, please? Yep. 538 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,960 And also Cooper's own criminal record, 539 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,480 maybe link in with Command and Control. 540 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,960 Guv. Yeah, Sunny you had a thought about bin liners. Hm. 541 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,800 So, you're trying to dispose of body parts. 542 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,960 You need to transport them, and so you're gonna wrap them up 543 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,960 in bin liners to minimise evidence being deposited in your vehicle. 544 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,960 But then when you throw them in the marshes, 545 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,960 you wanna unwrap them to accelerate the decomposition 546 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,160 so they get eaten quickly, etc. 547 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,960 And indeed, the little that we found of the torso 548 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,320 certainly suggests that went into the marshes un-wrapped. 549 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,960 My guess is that we haven't found any other parts 550 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:46,960 due to the same reason. 551 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,960 So why would the leg have gone into the marshes 552 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,960 still wrapped in bin liners? 553 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,960 The killer was interrupted. Had to have been. 554 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,960 A member of the public disturbed them, 555 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,960 and they threw it in quickly to avoid detection. OK. 556 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:02,960 So boards up please, Kaz, all along that path, 557 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,960 asking if anyone saw anything unusual 558 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,960 between February 24th, 2021, and the end of March. Boss. 559 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,960 Murray, Juliet Cooper is supplying us with their rental records. 560 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,960 Could you compile a list of all their tenants 561 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,960 in the 12 months before Cooper was reported missing? Sure. 562 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,640 And, Fran, can you track down as many pub employees as possible? 563 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,960 Ask them what their general impression of the marriage was, 564 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,960 if they know of anyone else who might've had beef with Cooper, 565 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,480 ditto the locals who knew him. 566 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:29,960 Maybe a board up there as well? 567 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,960 Yeah, yeah. Why not? OK, thanks, guys. 568 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,960 'But you absolutely weren't drunk.' 569 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,960 You were nowhere near over the limit. 570 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,960 I know. You'd had half a pint. 571 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,960 Colm Moyland was three times over the limit. 572 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,960 He drove through a red light. It was his fault. 573 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,960 Except now they're arguing that 574 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,960 even the small amount of alcohol in my bloodstream means that... 575 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,960 ..culpability should be shared. 576 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,960 And if they can convince a judge of that, 577 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,320 it would mean I wouldn't be able to make any claim on his insurance. 578 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,480 So we claim on yours. Sure. 579 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,480 Except now that my insurance are saying 580 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,960 in the absence of any claim on his... 581 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,960 it would mean that mine would be invalid... 582 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,960 ..because of the half a pint. 583 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,960 How? You weren't anywhere near over the limit. 584 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,960 There's a clause in the... small print, which, erm... 585 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,960 means that they have the right to deny compensation, 586 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,320 on a case-by-case basis... 587 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,960 if the driver has consumed any alcohol. 588 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,160 EXHALES 589 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,960 Hm. 590 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:57,960 Come here. 591 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,960 MELINDA CHUCKLES We're gonna be OK. 592 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,960 We are. We're gonna be just fine. 593 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,960 DI Khan. 594 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,960 Hands up, no excuses, we screwed up. 595 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,480 Feels less like you pursued the wrong leads, 596 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,960 more like you pursued no leads. 597 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,960 Oh, we followed plenty of leads. Maybe you were otherwise occupied. 598 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,960 Have you just come here to bask, DI Khan? 599 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,960 I take no pleasure in where you find yourself. 600 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,000 Come on... little bit. 601 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,960 I mean, I did call you a coconut. 602 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:53,960 Put your funny little DC on the deck 603 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,960 and get your charges withdrawn. 604 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,640 Got there in the end, didn't we? 605 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,480 We did. 606 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,800 So... 607 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,960 how about we just agree I'm a disgrace to the badge, 608 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,640 and then maybe I can actually help you, 609 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,960 because... your pity's slightly making me wanna puke. 610 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,640 You are a disgrace to the badge. Excellent. 611 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,000 So... 612 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,960 We own restaurants, dry-cleaners,, a few office spaces, 613 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,320 but we're not gangsters. 614 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,960 Your cousin is doing eight years for drugs offences 615 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,480 and your father did ten for GBH. 616 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,960 My dad died in 2009, 617 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,800 and my cousin is nothing to do with our business. 618 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,000 So you really felt he jumped into the river? 619 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,960 Or just walked away. You met the wife? 620 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:45,960 We have. 621 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,960 Firstly, my instinct was 622 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,480 that the marriage wasn't what she painted it as, 623 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,320 and that, coupled with genuine money worries, 624 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,960 caused him to just leave. 625 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,960 OK. So, how much did you lend him, as a friend? 626 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,960 12,000, which he paid back with an interest of five. 627 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,960 My guess was he had borrowed money, 628 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,960 and of course, it's possible they killed him, 629 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,960 but again, my instinct was that that wasn't the case. 630 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,960 Why? Firstly, she was pushing that too hard. 631 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,960 She must have called my office half a dozen times to push that angle. 632 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,960 Maybe because you didn't do anything. 633 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,640 Because it didn't make sense. Dead men don't pay debts. 634 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,960 Even if we were that kind of organisation, 635 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,640 why would we have him killed? 636 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,960 Dead men don't pay debts. You want a theory? 637 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,320 I'll give you a theory. 638 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,960 There was an assault on Cooper a few weeks before he died. 639 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,800 I'd ask why the wife was so keen to point the finger at us. 640 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,960 One of his bar managers, a Chinese girl, 641 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,960 reckoned it was committed by a lad 642 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,160 that Cooper employed the previous year but who'd not got furlough. 643 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,960 I'd ask how happy she was knowing that he was with another woman. 644 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:46,960 What other woman? 645 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,960 You know his name? No. 646 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,960 But apparently, the lad had threatened him a couple of times. 647 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,800 The one always waiting in the car 648 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,960 when he was dropping off his repayments. 649 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,800 If I was you, I'd be looking for her. 650 00:40:58,960 --> 00:40:59,960 If I were you, I'd be looking for him. 651 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,960 I appreciate your help, Mr Sidhu. Pfft, "Mr". 652 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:10,960 It's classy. 653 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:15,960 We're done here. 654 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,960 But, listen, if you need any more help. 655 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,960 Indeed. 656 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,960 And I certainly know where to find you, don't I? 657 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,000 PRESENTER: 'But right now, this is BNC. 658 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,960 'It's seven o'clock, yes, it's time for Mel's Minute.' 659 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,320 Well, face masks may be gone, 660 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,320 lockdowns, for now, a thing of the past. 661 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,960 But if you thought that the wokerati would let you get on 662 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,960 with simply enjoying life, well, think again. 663 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,960 This week, we saw more highly questionable data released 664 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,960 informing us that we are literally going to burn in hell 665 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,960 if we don't give up our cars, our holidays abroad, 666 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,160 and, heck, they even have it in for my little, old log burner. 667 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,000 And as I sit here and look outside my window 668 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,960 on this May evening to see the frost outside, 669 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,960 and I pull on my jumper, I ask myself two questions. 670 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,960 Why are the climate change clap-trappers lying to us? 671 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,960 And why, if the world is now boiling, am I so frigging cold? 672 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,960 Well, the answer to the first question is 673 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,960 because if we're in a state of perpetual fear and panic, 674 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,640 then we're so much easier to control. 675 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:26,960 If the pandemic taught us anything, 676 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,960 it's that governments globe love to keep us under their thumb. 677 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,960 And the answer to the second question is 678 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,960 I'm cold because that's how climate works. 679 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,960 It is unpredictable, always has been, always will be. 680 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,960 To coin a phrase, "Sometimes, it snows in April." 681 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,640 SHE CHUCKLES So until next time, 682 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,960 good luck, good night, and God bless. 683 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,960 Now... where are my matches? 684 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,800 That is so true. So true. 685 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:51,960 Thank you, Mel. 686 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,960 'Thanks, Mel, and thank you for watching. 687 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,960 'This has been Britannia News. 688 00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,960 'In Newcastle today, further unrest...' 689 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,800 They are compromising, Juliet, 690 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,960 all they want to do now is meet with you and talk. 691 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,960 They want to lecture me, Paul, we both know that. 692 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,960 They want to judge me. They really don't. 693 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,960 Paul, it's the union's core skill. 694 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,960 They want to judge me and wag their pompous little fingers... 695 00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:02,960 Please, help me here. My hands are tied. 696 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,960 You've tied them yourself by just taking this shit for too long. 697 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,320 I'm doing you a favour. I'm saying enough. 698 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,960 You should be grateful. 699 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,960 I know this is the life that I chose, Mother, 700 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:18,960 I know it's my fault. 701 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,480 I was just hoping, for once, 702 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,960 just, you know, once, a little bit of empathy. 703 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,960 We don't really do empathy, darling, do we? 704 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,320 And given you've rather made a living out of that, 705 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,960 it's a bit rich expecting it yourself. 706 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,960 Well, I'll say good night, then. 707 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,320 I'm sure you've got some vinegar you'd like to take a long soak in. 708 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,960 Before you go, sweetie... 709 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,000 did you hear about that man we met you with at the Oaks? 710 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,480 What man? Hm. 711 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,160 He was in the paper yesterday, I... 712 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,800 I recognised him from the photo. 713 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,480 What man? Gerard Cooper? 714 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,000 Gerard? Wow, that's a long time. 715 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,960 Why was he in the paper? 716 00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,960 'They found his body out in Whitney Marsh. 717 00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:02,960 'It says they're launching a murder investigation. 718 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,320 'Melinda?' Yeah, sorry, I'm just... 719 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,960 ..just in shock. 720 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,960 'You used to love our picnics out in Whitney 721 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,960 'when you were a little girl, didn't you?' 722 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,480 I've gotta go, Mother. I-I'll talk to you next week. 723 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,160 PODCAST HOST: 'So many have fallen for the corrupt and evil narrative 724 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,960 'that has long been broadcast...' 725 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,960 SPEECH CONTINUES INDISTINCTLY 726 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,960 'Please leave a message after the tone.' 727 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,960 TONE BEEPS Hi, it's Melinda Ricci. 728 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,960 So, I just wanted to let you know 729 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,960 that if you say anything to anyone that brings people to my door... 730 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:16,960 ..you will regret it. 731 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,320 PHONE BEEPS 'Message deleted.' 732 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:24,960 PHONE BEEPS 733 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,960 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com 57458

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