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("Won't Get Fooled Again"
by The Who playing)
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NARRATOR:
CSI: Miami, the globaltelevision phenomenon.
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NARRATOR:
CSI: Miami, the globaltelevision phenomenon.
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In this series,we'll explore crime
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In this series,we'll explore crime
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through an entirely new lens.
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{\an8}DISPATCHER:
Marlene Warren was just shot.
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NARRATOR:
The investigationson this program are true.
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NARRATOR:
The investigationson this program are true.
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Ride alongwith the real CSI experts.
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Ride alongwith the real CSI experts.
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VINCE WEINER:
This was the most brutalhomicide in over 25 years.
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CRUX CONCEPTION:
Forensic science,
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it was the key witness.
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it was the key witness.
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NARRATOR:
Talk to the real suspects.
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I didn't kill anybody, dude.
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NARRATOR:
Hear from the real victims.
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NARRATOR:
Hear from the real victims.
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I couldn't believe it.
I'm in a state of shock.
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NARRATOR:
And ultimately solve the case
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through the useof forensic science.
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We still have a homicide suspect
somewhere out there.
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NARRATOR: This is...
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WOMAN: A murder...
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NARRATOR: This is...
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WOMAN: A murder...
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REPORTER: A disturbing storyhas come in...
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(overlapping voices)
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{\an8}REPORTER: Three individualsdiscovered amidst
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{\an8}REPORTER: Three individualsdiscovered amidst
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{\an8}what authoritiesare characterizing
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{\an8}as a gruesome scene.
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Authorities are keeping silent
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Authorities are keeping silent
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on the specificsof the murder method
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or if there wereany signs of forced entry.
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STEVE MURPHY:
You would think thata triple homicide
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would be an unusual occurrence.
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In South Florida, it wasn't.
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In South Florida, it wasn't.
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{\an8}My name is Steve Murphy.
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{\an8}I'm a retired special agent.
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I have a total of 38 years
of law enforcement experience
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I have a total of 38 years
of law enforcement experience
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and 26 years with DEA.
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On June 27, 1994,
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On June 27, 1994,
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the Miramar Police Departmentwas investigating reports of
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two missing girls,
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two missing girls,
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Marie Rogers
and Sharon Anderson.
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The night before, they had beenseen at Casey's Nickelodeon,
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The night before, they had beenseen at Casey's Nickelodeon,
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the club owned bya guy known as Butch Casey.
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{\an8}My mom called me
on Sunday morning.
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{\an8}My mom called me
on Sunday morning.
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{\an8}She said, "Sharon didn't
come home last night."
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And my sister and herhad a date.
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And my sister and herhad a date.
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And no matter where Sharon was,
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if she had a date with my mom,
she made that date.
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MURPHY:
The investigators knowfrom an employee of the club
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MURPHY:
The investigators knowfrom an employee of the club
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that Butch had been seenwith two young females earlier,
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that Butch had been seenwith two young females earlier,
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and at early morning hours
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they left together.
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{\an8}A Miramar police officer goes
to the home
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{\an8}of Butch Casey.
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{\an8}When he gets to the house,after he knocks
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{\an8}When he gets to the house,after he knocks
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{\an8}on the front door,
he makes his way around
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{\an8}to the back of the house'cause he can hear music
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{\an8}inside the house.
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When he gets to the back door,he can see through the window.
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{\an8}And in the house...
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He can see
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bodies lying on the floor.
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CHUCK FEBRO:
On June 27, 1994,
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I was the DeputyChief of Police.
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I was the DeputyChief of Police.
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{\an8}And I also was in charge of
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{\an8}the criminal investigations
division,
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{\an8}along with the patrol division
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{\an8}along with the patrol division
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{\an8}for Miramar Police Department.
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This is the routeI took down 33rd Street
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to get to Miramar Isles
to get to East Shore Drive,
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to get to Miramar Isles
to get to East Shore Drive,
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and then we'll come up
to scene of the triple homicide.
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{\an8}When I first arrived,all those palm trees
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{\an8}When I first arrived,all those palm trees
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{\an8}were all there,
and there's a, uh, a fence here
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{\an8}that's probably six feet tall,
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{\an8}so it'd be really easyfor someone
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{\an8}to approach this housewith no one knowing.
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{\an8}When I pulled up,
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{\an8}there was police carseverywhere.
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{\an8}Crime scene tape,detectives at the front door.
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{\an8}Crime scene tape,detectives at the front door.
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MURPHY: When investigatorsarrive at the house,
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one of the things they see
is a blue T-shirt
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one of the things they see
is a blue T-shirt
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lying on the ground.
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And on that shirt were the words
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Consolidated Electric Supply.
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You don't know
if that's evidence or not yet,
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You don't know
if that's evidence or not yet,
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but just to be on the safe side,
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you're gonna pick that up
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The front door was locked.
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The front door was locked.
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It appeared that all the windowswere closed and locked,
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but they found the backsliding glass door unlocked.
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FEBRO:
The house backed up
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to a lake,
and then there were a bunch
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of finger canals, and a lotof people lived on the canals.
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of finger canals, and a lotof people lived on the canals.
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It's a very nice neighborhood.
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Very private, very quiet.
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Very private, very quiet.
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Very little crime in that area.
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MURPHY:
There is no signs
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whatsoever of forced entry
into this house.
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whatsoever of forced entry
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FEBRO:
I was aghast
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when I first
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{\an8}There was a lot of furniturepushed aside.
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{\an8}Looked like some burglars camein and had ransacked the house
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{\an8}Looked like some burglars camein and had ransacked the house
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{\an8}to look for money.
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The entire house,
other than maybe the bedrooms,
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were all marble tile floors,
and there was blood drippings
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were all marble tile floors,
and there was blood drippings
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on the tile.
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{\an8}And there was a shoe print...
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{\an8}And there was a shoe print...
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...that had blood residue on it
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and transferred itto the tile floor.
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and transferred itto the tile floor.
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The three victims,
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two very young womenin their early 20s
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two very young womenin their early 20s
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and a white male,were laying in between
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the living room and
the dining room on the floor.
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the living room and
the dining room on the floor.
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One of the female victimswas tied up
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with phone line on her ankles.
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with phone line on her ankles.
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{\an8}MARY'S MARTINEZ:
And that's, in my opinion,
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{\an8}pretty symbolic.
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Maybe she did somethingthey didn't like,
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like try to run away.
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like try to run away.
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{\an8}My name is Mary's Martinez.
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{\an8}I'm a crime scene investigator.
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I specialize mostly in firearms
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I specialize mostly in firearms
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and general evidence that
are located on crime scenes.
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The male victimwas laying on his back
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The male victimwas laying on his back
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with a gunshot wound.
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He was beat up.
His face was turned to the side,
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He was beat up.
His face was turned to the side,
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and it was obvious that he hadbeen struck in some manner
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because he had numerous injuries
to his face.
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because he had numerous injuries
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One of the female victims
had two gunshot wounds.
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One of the female victims
had two gunshot wounds.
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She was the onewith her ankles tied together.
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{\an8}And it appeared to me that
she was fired at close range
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{\an8}and shot in the neck
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{\an8}and shot in the neck
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{\an8}and shotin the back of the head.
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{\an8}The second female victim
was laying face down
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{\an8}The second female victim
was laying face down
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{\an8}with one woundto the back of her neck.
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One of the victimswas identified
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One of the victimswas identified
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as Butch Casey,
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who was the owner of the house
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and the ownerof Casey's Nickelodeon.
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and the ownerof Casey's Nickelodeon.
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MURPHY:
Unfortunately,the two missing girls,
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they were two of the victims
in this triple murder,
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Marie Rogersand Sharon Anderson.
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Marie Rogersand Sharon Anderson.
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{\an8}DEBORAH BOWIE:
Sometime in the afternoon
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{\an8}DEBORAH BOWIE:
Sometime in the afternoon
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{\an8}the following day,my mom called,
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{\an8}and when I answered, she asked
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{\an8}for my husband,which I thought was strange.
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{\an8}for my husband,which I thought was strange.
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And I don't know
why I said what I said,
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And I don't know
why I said what I said,
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but I said,
"Is Sharon dead? Just tell me."
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And he said, "Yes. She is."
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It just felt like itjust couldn't have been real.
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It just felt like itjust couldn't have been real.
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You just feel like you're throwninto an alternative universe.
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You just feel like you're throwninto an alternative universe.
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I was 24 when I lost my sister.
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I was 24 when I lost my sister.
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You cannot go through that
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Right? I am not the same person.
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Right? I am not the same person.
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Never will be.
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(sniffles)
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Sharon was 11 monthsolder than me.
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Sharon was 11 monthsolder than me.
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We were probably closerthan most siblings would be
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just because there really wasn't
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just because there really wasn't
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an extended familyexcept me and Sharon.
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We were tight.
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When we were little,
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When we were little,
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Sharon had wanted to bea police officer.
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When she got older,
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she wanted to be
in front of the camera.
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♪ ♪
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She started modelingand doing photo shoots.
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She saw herselfin entertainment.
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She saw herselfin entertainment.
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This was, like, early '90s,
and Miami
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was just getting on the scene
for music videos.
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And she was picked outof a line of thousands
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And she was picked outof a line of thousands
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of women on Miami Beach
to star opposite
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Heavy D & the Boyz
in a video they shot in Miami
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Heavy D & the Boyz
in a video they shot in Miami
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called "Gyrlz, They Love Me."
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♪ Girls, they,
girls, they love me... ♪
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♪ Girls, they,
girls, they love me... ♪
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BOWIE:
After she did the video,she had figured out
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that "This is the world
that I want to be in."
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Marie also hada lot of dreams and hopes.
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Marie also hada lot of dreams and hopes.
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She was in fashion school.
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She was very artistic
and could do
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She was very artistic
and could do
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really great things
with costumes.
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Sharon and Marie,they were good friends.
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Sharon and Marie,they were good friends.
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Marie was really chill,liked good music,
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good food, loved her daughter.
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She's who I would expect
Sharon to be friends with.
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She's who I would expect
Sharon to be friends with.
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She was giving,she was caring, she was kind.
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But I didn't know
who Butch Casey was.
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But I didn't know
who Butch Casey was.
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♪ I got that honey ♪
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♪ Sugar sweet... ♪
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♪ Sugar sweet... ♪
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MARTINEZ:
Butch Casey was described
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as a playboy.
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He owned Casey's Nickelodeon.
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They were known for theirladies' nights, drink specials.
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They were known for theirladies' nights, drink specials.
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He was well off,he drove a Mercedes-Benz.
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He was well off,he drove a Mercedes-Benz.
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At the nightclub,he knew a lot of people
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and would often
bring them back to his house.
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♪ ♪
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MURPHY:
We know that Butch movedfrom Buffalo, New York,
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to Miramar, Florida,
the Southern Florida area,
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to Miramar, Florida,
the Southern Florida area,
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in the 1980s.
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In Buffalo,he owned a nightclub up there.
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In Buffalo,he owned a nightclub up there.
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He comes to Miramar and opens upCasey's Nickelodeon club,
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and it's very successful.
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and it's very successful.
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Butch had severalrun-ins with the law
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both before and afterhis arrival to Miami.
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And he had a prior arrestfor narcotics violations.
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And he had a prior arrestfor narcotics violations.
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The '70s and the '80s
is when the drug culture
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really started
hitting South Florida.
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It's not unusualfor there to be drug activity
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It's not unusualfor there to be drug activity
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in a lot of the nightclubs.
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So, was Casey's Nickelodeon
club the same?
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So, was Casey's Nickelodeon
club the same?
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Was this a drug deal gone bad?
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FEBRO:
The detectives locatedneighbor Gary Foy,
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who had seensomething suspicious
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who had seensomething suspicious
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on the date of the murder.
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As he left his house, he noticed
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As he left his house, he noticed
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that Butch Casey'sblack Mercedes-Benz
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was leaving the neighborhood.
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He did not see Butch in the car,
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He did not see Butch in the car,
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but he saw two young males.
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MURPHY:
It's a great indicator that
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there are at least
two people involved.
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So, our initial theory here...
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So, our initial theory here...
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...is that Butchand the two ladies
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came back to Butch's house.
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came back to Butch's house.
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They fell asleep.
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Two assailants enteredthe house from the back
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through an unlocked door.
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through an unlocked door.
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They start rummagingthrough the house,
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presumably lookingfor things of value.
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Jewelry, cash, drugs.
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Jewelry, cash, drugs.
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Butch hears this.
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He gets up and encountersthe two assailants.
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A tussle ensues.
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A tussle ensues.
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One of the assailants shootsand kills Butch Casey.
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The two ladies hear this,they come out to investigate.
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And now the assailantstake control of them
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And now the assailantstake control of them
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and eventually kill themas well.
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{\an8}In their hasteto get out of the house,
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{\an8}stepped in blood,left a bloody shoe print,
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{\an8}stepped in blood,left a bloody shoe print,
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{\an8}and dropped their blue T-shirton the ground
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{\an8}as they make their escape.
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{\an8}as they make their escape.
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{\an8}But the investigators haveno idea who they're looking for.
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There are still
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pieces of evidence
that have been collected
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pieces of evidence
that have been collected
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from the crime scene
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that are still going
through analysis.
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So, you're waiting on those
to come back in.
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So, you're waiting on those
to come back in.
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MARTINEZ:
As they're waitingfor pending evidence results--
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DNA, fingerprints--
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investigators dug intoother evidence
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investigators dug intoother evidence
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that was found within
the crime scene.
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{\an8}The investigators stumbled uponwhat appeared to be
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{\an8}The investigators stumbled uponwhat appeared to be
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{\an8}a collection of audiotapes,
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{\an8}some of which were conversations
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{\an8}some of which were conversations
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{\an8}that were recorded
between Butch and a woman.
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The way it sounds like
on that audiotape,
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The way it sounds like
on that audiotape,
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these audio recordingswere done secretly.
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And it was, short of a better
word, horrific to listen to it.
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And it was, short of a better
word, horrific to listen to it.
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It causes my blood to boil.
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MURPHY:
Makes you wonder,
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why does Butch Casey
have those tapes?
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♪ ♪
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MURPHY:
There's been three murders.
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{\an8}You're looking
for potential leads anywhere
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{\an8}you can find them.
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When they were processingthe crime scene,
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numerous audio recordings werediscovered in Butch's house.
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numerous audio recordings werediscovered in Butch's house.
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One of the tapes was a recording
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of Butch and a womanwho was fighting.
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{\an8}And this recording wasjust days before the murder.
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{\an8}And this recording wasjust days before the murder.
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{\an8}(woman wailing)
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{\an8}(woman screams)
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MURPHY:
It sounds like it was Butch
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MURPHY:
It sounds like it was Butch
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and what appears to behis ex-girlfriend
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or current girlfriend,
who knows?
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So, who is this woman onthe audiotape recording?
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So, who is this woman onthe audiotape recording?
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{\an8}While investigating
Butch's personal life,
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{\an8}the detectives run across
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{\an8}the detectives run across
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{\an8}a domestic violenceincident report
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{\an8}between Butch and hisex-girlfriend Kristal Fisher.
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{\an8}between Butch and hisex-girlfriend Kristal Fisher.
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{\an8}FEBRO:
Any detective would look into,
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{\an8}when a husband is murdered
or a wife is murdered,
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{\an8}when a husband is murdered
or a wife is murdered,
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{\an8}usually look to the spouseor the girlfriend.
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So that was definitely
a possibility,
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So that was definitely
a possibility,
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that it-- she could have been
involved in these murders.
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{\an8}(Kristal screams)
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MURPHY:
During this conversation,
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MURPHY:
During this conversation,
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she's in a very submissive role.
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But once she's left,
she may become bitter.
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But once she's left,
she may become bitter.
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Could she be so upset
by what took place
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that she wants to-- some type
of retaliation against him?
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Because nobody
should talk to her like that.
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Because nobody
should talk to her like that.
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Now, this introduces
another theory.
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Did Kristal decide,
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"I'm not taking thatfrom anybody,
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I'm gonna get him back,"and she decides
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I'm gonna get him back,"and she decides
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to hire someoneto kill Butch Casey?
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Maybe through the contactsshe met at the bar,
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Maybe through the contactsshe met at the bar,
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there were two guys who werewilling to commit a murder
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for her, for money.
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She surely knows
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She surely knows
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that his back sliding dooris rarely locked.
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The hit men got in the house,shoot Butch.
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The hit men got in the house,shoot Butch.
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Sharon and Marieare potential witnesses.
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So they kill both ladies.
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So they kill both ladies.
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They stage it to look likea robbery gone bad.
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Maybe they decidedtheir payment was gonna be
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Maybe they decidedtheir payment was gonna be
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a black convertibleMercedes-Benz,
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and they make their escape.
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While Kristal Fishermay have had the motive
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for killing Butch Casey,
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for killing Butch Casey,
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did Kristal havethe financial means
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to order a murder,
to order a hit?
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to order a murder,
to order a hit?
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Did she have the contacts?
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Through their investigation,they subpoenaed phone records,
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they subpoenaed
financial records,
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they subpoenaed
financial records,
435
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they talkedto other individuals.
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Eventually,it was determined that
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there was no evidence whatsoever
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there was no evidence whatsoever
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that she was complicit
in planning these murders.
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And the investigators werecomfortable with the fact that
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And the investigators werecomfortable with the fact that
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most likely, it was not her.
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So now investigators can set
Kristal Fisher aside
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and move on
to other potential leads.
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00:15:48,947 --> 00:15:51,550
and move on
to other potential leads.
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Is this justa straight-out robbery?
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We just don't know. This is partof the investigative leads
448
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We just don't know. This is partof the investigative leads
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that have to be followed up.
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BOWIE:
It was frustrating,
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because you spend
a lot of time waiting.
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{\an8}They might be a headlineon the evening news,
453
00:16:06,632 --> 00:16:10,703
{\an8}They might be a headlineon the evening news,
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{\an8}but it's a whole other story
when it's your family.
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And in my family,Sharon was very much the glue.
456
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And in my family,Sharon was very much the glue.
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00:16:18,210 --> 00:16:20,012
And when you lose a presence
like that in your family,
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And when you lose a presence
like that in your family,
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it has an immediate impact.
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Right? Because then,
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who's there,
who's going to be hopeful
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who's there,
who's going to be hopeful
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and look for the good?
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It's hard when you losethat person.
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{\an8}MARTINEZ:
Investigators have the T-shirt
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{\an8}that was on the front porch,
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{\an8}but they had yet to receive
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{\an8}but they had yet to receive
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{\an8}any sort of DNA analysis.
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MURPHY:
What you're looking foris pieces
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of the DNA that are referred to
as markers.
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of the DNA that are referred to
as markers.
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And those markers
are what you're looking for
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to compare to known DNA samples.
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to compare to known DNA samples.
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00:16:58,283 --> 00:17:01,053
You look for 20 markers,because 20 markers
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00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,690
may get you to the 99.9% match.
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00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,690
may get you to the 99.9% match.
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00:17:04,757 --> 00:17:07,092
Once you knowwhat those markers are,
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then you can compare itto known DNA samples
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then you can compare itto known DNA samples
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of other people,
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and you're looking
for that match.
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DNA is discovered
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in your skin tissue,
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00:17:17,269 --> 00:17:19,738
in your sweat, in your saliva.
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in your sweat, in your saliva.
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Anything that your bodyexcretes, excretes a DNA sample.
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00:17:23,575 --> 00:17:26,245
We're always continually
shedding skin cells.
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00:17:23,575 --> 00:17:26,245
We're always continually
shedding skin cells.
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That's gonna be on your clothingwhether you want it to or not.
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The blue shirtfound at the house,
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The blue shirtfound at the house,
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that's got to be full
of DNA evidence.
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00:17:33,452 --> 00:17:36,522
Well, the analysisof the DNA test comes back,
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and there's multiple piecesof DNA
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00:17:36,588 --> 00:17:38,891
and there's multiple piecesof DNA
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on that shirt.
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MARTINEZ:
Except that only one
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was able to be identified.
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was able to be identified.
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{\an8}It was the DNA of Sharon.
503
00:17:47,966 --> 00:17:50,803
Could the killer's DNAbe on the shirt? Absolutely.
504
00:17:47,966 --> 00:17:50,803
Could the killer's DNAbe on the shirt? Absolutely.
505
00:17:50,869 --> 00:17:54,506
But given that it's 1994,
they weren't able to identify
506
00:17:54,573 --> 00:17:56,175
exactly whothe other profiles are.
507
00:17:54,573 --> 00:17:56,175
exactly whothe other profiles are.
508
00:17:56,241 --> 00:17:58,577
MURPHY:
In 1994, DNA analysis
509
00:17:58,644 --> 00:18:00,312
was continuing to evolve.
510
00:18:00,379 --> 00:18:02,648
And at that time,what was required
511
00:18:00,379 --> 00:18:02,648
And at that time,what was required
512
00:18:02,714 --> 00:18:04,950
was a large
513
00:18:05,017 --> 00:18:07,653
collection of DNA
in a pristine condition
514
00:18:05,017 --> 00:18:07,653
collection of DNA
in a pristine condition
515
00:18:07,719 --> 00:18:11,690
where it hasn't been adulterated
by another person's DNA
516
00:18:11,757 --> 00:18:15,994
or an outside chemical that
happened to get on that shirt.
517
00:18:11,757 --> 00:18:15,994
or an outside chemical that
happened to get on that shirt.
518
00:18:16,061 --> 00:18:19,431
To get that exact analysis
519
00:18:16,061 --> 00:18:19,431
To get that exact analysis
520
00:18:19,498 --> 00:18:21,633
in 1994 was rather difficult.
521
00:18:21,700 --> 00:18:23,802
{\an8}MARTINEZ:
So even though there was
522
00:18:23,869 --> 00:18:25,571
two sets of DNA on the shirt,
523
00:18:23,869 --> 00:18:25,571
two sets of DNA on the shirt,
524
00:18:25,637 --> 00:18:27,573
it was ultimately a dead end.
525
00:18:27,639 --> 00:18:29,741
MURPHY:
When an investigationhits a wall,
526
00:18:29,808 --> 00:18:32,845
a detective will reach out tothe law enforcement community,
527
00:18:29,808 --> 00:18:32,845
a detective will reach out tothe law enforcement community,
528
00:18:32,911 --> 00:18:35,747
professionals,people that you trust.
529
00:18:35,814 --> 00:18:38,283
So now we have our flyers out
there with all the local police,
530
00:18:35,814 --> 00:18:38,283
So now we have our flyers out
there with all the local police,
531
00:18:38,350 --> 00:18:40,252
asking anybody
for any potential leads.
532
00:18:42,855 --> 00:18:46,125
Investigators received a callfrom the Palm Beach County
533
00:18:42,855 --> 00:18:46,125
Investigators received a callfrom the Palm Beach County
534
00:18:46,191 --> 00:18:47,626
Florida Fire Department.
535
00:18:47,693 --> 00:18:49,695
They'd found a...
536
00:18:47,693 --> 00:18:49,695
They'd found a...
537
00:18:49,761 --> 00:18:52,464
black convertible
Mercedes-Benz on fire.
538
00:18:53,532 --> 00:18:54,867
{\an8}The tags on the car
539
00:18:54,933 --> 00:18:56,301
{\an8}came back to Butch Casey.
540
00:18:54,933 --> 00:18:56,301
{\an8}came back to Butch Casey.
541
00:18:56,368 --> 00:18:58,470
{\an8}MARTINEZ:
This was a huge break
542
00:18:58,537 --> 00:18:59,838
{\an8}for the case
543
00:18:59,905 --> 00:19:01,974
{\an8}because Butch's neighbor
544
00:18:59,905 --> 00:19:01,974
{\an8}because Butch's neighbor
545
00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,343
{\an8}stated he saw two males
546
00:19:04,409 --> 00:19:06,912
{\an8}getting into
the black Mercedes next door.
547
00:19:06,979 --> 00:19:08,981
So we can assumethat it was driven
548
00:19:06,979 --> 00:19:08,981
So we can assumethat it was driven
549
00:19:09,047 --> 00:19:13,218
from the home by the same person
that committed the murder.
550
00:19:09,047 --> 00:19:13,218
from the home by the same person
that committed the murder.
551
00:19:13,285 --> 00:19:16,255
They might still have
an attempt at DNA samples.
552
00:19:18,790 --> 00:19:20,993
{\an8}The respondingcrime scene investigators
553
00:19:18,790 --> 00:19:20,993
{\an8}The respondingcrime scene investigators
554
00:19:21,059 --> 00:19:24,930
{\an8}collected various samples
and submitted them
555
00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:26,798
{\an8}for analysis at the lab.
556
00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:26,798
{\an8}for analysis at the lab.
557
00:19:26,865 --> 00:19:29,501
{\an8}Usually,when vehicles are torched,
558
00:19:29,568 --> 00:19:32,504
{\an8}the heat and the flameswill kill off any DNA.
559
00:19:29,568 --> 00:19:32,504
{\an8}the heat and the flameswill kill off any DNA.
560
00:19:32,571 --> 00:19:33,705
It's 98% water.
561
00:19:33,772 --> 00:19:35,374
So amongst the water,
you know, the sweat,
562
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,376
amino acids, things like that,
all of that will evaporate,
563
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,376
amino acids, things like that,
all of that will evaporate,
564
00:19:37,442 --> 00:19:41,046
given that the fire would reachsuch a high degree of intensity.
565
00:19:41,113 --> 00:19:43,749
But despite the extent
566
00:19:41,113 --> 00:19:43,749
But despite the extent
567
00:19:43,815 --> 00:19:46,685
of the damage
from being set on fire,
568
00:19:46,752 --> 00:19:50,188
they were able to lifta couple fingerprints
569
00:19:46,752 --> 00:19:50,188
they were able to lifta couple fingerprints
570
00:19:50,255 --> 00:19:52,324
from the vehicle door handles.
571
00:19:52,391 --> 00:19:54,893
The fact that they were ableto get some prints off of it,
572
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,428
that was amazing.
573
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,428
that was amazing.
574
00:19:56,495 --> 00:19:58,363
Unfortunately for this case...
575
00:20:00,198 --> 00:20:01,967
{\an8}...it wasn't a hitin the AFIS system,
576
00:20:00,198 --> 00:20:01,967
{\an8}...it wasn't a hitin the AFIS system,
577
00:20:02,034 --> 00:20:04,102
which standsfor Automated Fingerprint
578
00:20:04,169 --> 00:20:05,737
Identification System,
579
00:20:05,804 --> 00:20:08,540
the database that is usedby crime scene investigators
580
00:20:05,804 --> 00:20:08,540
the database that is usedby crime scene investigators
581
00:20:08,607 --> 00:20:11,877
to upload any printsthat may have been collected
582
00:20:11,944 --> 00:20:14,379
and then make an identification
583
00:20:11,944 --> 00:20:14,379
and then make an identification
584
00:20:14,446 --> 00:20:17,516
off of the names
that are stored in the database.
585
00:20:18,650 --> 00:20:20,586
It's just dead endafter dead end.
586
00:20:18,650 --> 00:20:20,586
It's just dead endafter dead end.
587
00:20:24,623 --> 00:20:26,658
MURPHY:
You're lookingfor potential leads anywhere
588
00:20:24,623 --> 00:20:26,658
MURPHY:
You're lookingfor potential leads anywhere
589
00:20:26,725 --> 00:20:28,493
you can find them,so investigators
590
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,862
go back to the crime scene.
591
00:20:30,929 --> 00:20:32,097
{\an8}While I was at the crime scene,
592
00:20:30,929 --> 00:20:32,097
{\an8}While I was at the crime scene,
593
00:20:32,164 --> 00:20:35,901
{\an8}I was next toan entertainment center,
594
00:20:35,968 --> 00:20:38,303
{\an8}and there was a red lightthat was illuminated.
595
00:20:35,968 --> 00:20:38,303
{\an8}and there was a red lightthat was illuminated.
596
00:20:38,370 --> 00:20:40,772
{\an8}That meant somethingwas being recorded.
597
00:20:40,839 --> 00:20:43,442
{\an8}Just a couple feet from me,
598
00:20:40,839 --> 00:20:43,442
{\an8}Just a couple feet from me,
599
00:20:43,508 --> 00:20:46,578
{\an8}I look over and they've
got all these potted plants
600
00:20:46,645 --> 00:20:48,313
{\an8}on top ofthe entertainment center.
601
00:20:48,380 --> 00:20:50,282
{\an8}And I noticethat there was a couple
602
00:20:48,380 --> 00:20:50,282
{\an8}And I noticethat there was a couple
603
00:20:50,349 --> 00:20:51,483
{\an8}that were pulleda little bit apart.
604
00:20:51,550 --> 00:20:53,385
So I said, oh,
what's back there?
605
00:20:53,452 --> 00:20:55,754
{\an8}So I pull the plants apart,
606
00:20:53,452 --> 00:20:55,754
{\an8}So I pull the plants apart,
607
00:20:55,821 --> 00:20:58,724
{\an8}and therewas a camera on a tripod.
608
00:20:58,790 --> 00:21:01,259
{\an8}And I looked
at the crime scene tech
609
00:20:58,790 --> 00:21:01,259
{\an8}And I looked
at the crime scene tech
610
00:21:01,326 --> 00:21:05,130
{\an8}and I said,
"No, it couldn't be."
611
00:21:05,197 --> 00:21:07,165
{\an8}They said,
"Well, you think we could
612
00:21:05,197 --> 00:21:07,165
{\an8}They said,
"Well, you think we could
613
00:21:07,232 --> 00:21:09,134
{\an8}take a look and see
what that's recording?"
614
00:21:09,201 --> 00:21:11,136
It appeared
that Butch had set this up
615
00:21:11,203 --> 00:21:13,305
to record, for whatever reason.
616
00:21:11,203 --> 00:21:13,305
to record, for whatever reason.
617
00:21:14,706 --> 00:21:16,808
{\an8}MURPHY:
Why would Butch Casey have
618
00:21:16,875 --> 00:21:18,210
{\an8}a video camera hidden
619
00:21:18,276 --> 00:21:19,645
{\an8}inside of his house?
620
00:21:18,276 --> 00:21:19,645
{\an8}inside of his house?
621
00:21:19,711 --> 00:21:21,446
{\an8}I'm going to guessthat the investigator
622
00:21:21,513 --> 00:21:22,881
{\an8}that found that is like,
623
00:21:22,948 --> 00:21:24,383
{\an8}"Guys, you're not going
to believe this."
624
00:21:24,449 --> 00:21:26,485
I don't know.
But here's the bottom line.
625
00:21:24,449 --> 00:21:26,485
I don't know.
But here's the bottom line.
626
00:21:26,551 --> 00:21:28,553
Did Butch put that camera
up there
627
00:21:28,620 --> 00:21:30,255
and record his own murder?
628
00:21:38,664 --> 00:21:40,732
{\an8}MARINEZ: There isa huge break in the case
629
00:21:38,664 --> 00:21:40,732
{\an8}MARINEZ: There isa huge break in the case
630
00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:44,403
{\an8}when one of the investigators
notices that there is
631
00:21:44,469 --> 00:21:48,040
{\an8}a surveillance camera
in Butch's living room.
632
00:21:44,469 --> 00:21:48,040
{\an8}a surveillance camera
in Butch's living room.
633
00:21:48,106 --> 00:21:51,309
{\an8}Even more lucky thanthis was found was the fact
634
00:21:51,376 --> 00:21:53,779
{\an8}that the camera waspointed in the very direction
635
00:21:51,376 --> 00:21:53,779
{\an8}that the camera waspointed in the very direction
636
00:21:53,845 --> 00:21:56,415
{\an8}of wherethe entire incident took place.
637
00:21:58,050 --> 00:21:59,818
Could this camera have caught
638
00:21:58,050 --> 00:21:59,818
Could this camera have caught
639
00:21:59,885 --> 00:22:02,054
Sharon, Marie's
and Butch's murder?
640
00:22:07,993 --> 00:22:09,628
{\an8}MURPHY:
In 1994,
641
00:22:09,695 --> 00:22:11,329
{\an8}security cameras were
starting to come along,
642
00:22:09,695 --> 00:22:11,329
{\an8}security cameras were
starting to come along,
643
00:22:11,396 --> 00:22:12,330
{\an8}mostly in businesses.
644
00:22:12,397 --> 00:22:13,432
{\an8}But I don't know of a soul
645
00:22:13,498 --> 00:22:15,500
{\an8}who had one in their house.
646
00:22:15,567 --> 00:22:16,702
{\an8}Butch Casey did.
647
00:22:15,567 --> 00:22:16,702
{\an8}Butch Casey did.
648
00:22:16,768 --> 00:22:18,303
{\an8}And lo and behold,they turn it on,
649
00:22:18,370 --> 00:22:19,871
{\an8}and it was recording.
650
00:22:19,938 --> 00:22:22,340
{\an8}And it recorded
this heinous crime.
651
00:22:22,407 --> 00:22:24,342
{\an8}People are just amazed.
652
00:22:24,409 --> 00:22:25,877
{\an8}They'd never
seen anything like that.
653
00:22:25,944 --> 00:22:28,780
{\an8}Never had anybody hada video recorder running.
654
00:22:25,944 --> 00:22:28,780
{\an8}Never had anybody hada video recorder running.
655
00:22:28,847 --> 00:22:31,650
{\an8}I'm thinking,
boy, this is going to be
656
00:22:31,717 --> 00:22:33,752
{\an8}an important part of evidence.
657
00:22:33,819 --> 00:22:36,588
And sure enough,it was an extensive video,
658
00:22:33,819 --> 00:22:36,588
And sure enough,it was an extensive video,
659
00:22:36,655 --> 00:22:39,758
and it looked like
we had a very valuable tool
660
00:22:39,825 --> 00:22:41,693
to assist us
in this investigation.
661
00:22:39,825 --> 00:22:41,693
to assist us
in this investigation.
662
00:22:45,697 --> 00:22:48,467
(phone ringing)
663
00:22:45,697 --> 00:22:48,467
(phone ringing)
664
00:22:50,569 --> 00:22:52,204
(ringing continues)
665
00:22:55,107 --> 00:22:58,376
{\an8}BOWIE: I got a call fromthe Miramar Police Department,
666
00:22:58,443 --> 00:23:03,181
{\an8}and they said, "Your sister's
murder was caught on tape."
667
00:23:03,248 --> 00:23:04,916
{\an8}And I said, "What?"
668
00:23:03,248 --> 00:23:04,916
{\an8}And I said, "What?"
669
00:23:07,619 --> 00:23:08,720
I didn't know what that meant.
670
00:23:08,787 --> 00:23:10,722
Are you saying
that somebody recorded it?
671
00:23:08,787 --> 00:23:10,722
Are you saying
that somebody recorded it?
672
00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:13,125
And he said, "No,
it was a home security camera.
673
00:23:14,793 --> 00:23:16,828
"And they're goingto unseal it tomorrow,
674
00:23:14,793 --> 00:23:16,828
"And they're goingto unseal it tomorrow,
675
00:23:16,895 --> 00:23:18,563
so we wanted you to know."
676
00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:21,399
And I flew down to the
Miramar Police Department
677
00:23:21,466 --> 00:23:23,568
with a really good
family friend,
678
00:23:21,466 --> 00:23:23,568
with a really good
family friend,
679
00:23:23,635 --> 00:23:25,670
and I watched the unedited tape.
680
00:23:29,174 --> 00:23:31,443
{\an8}MARTINEZ:
The video shows Marie,
681
00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:34,045
{\an8}Sharon and Butch.
682
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,351
{\an8}They are having a drink,talking.
683
00:23:39,417 --> 00:23:42,320
{\an8}They were kind of like inthe early hours of the morning,
684
00:23:39,417 --> 00:23:42,320
{\an8}They were kind of like inthe early hours of the morning,
685
00:23:42,387 --> 00:23:46,458
{\an8}having a good timepost having been at the club.
686
00:23:42,387 --> 00:23:46,458
{\an8}having a good timepost having been at the club.
687
00:23:50,896 --> 00:23:53,298
{\an8}But then it happened.
688
00:23:50,896 --> 00:23:53,298
{\an8}But then it happened.
689
00:23:57,969 --> 00:24:01,506
{\an8}Two offenders are seen
690
00:23:57,969 --> 00:24:01,506
{\an8}Two offenders are seen
691
00:24:01,573 --> 00:24:03,942
{\an8}walking directlyinto the living room from
692
00:24:04,009 --> 00:24:06,111
{\an8}the backyard sliding glass door.
693
00:24:04,009 --> 00:24:06,111
{\an8}the backyard sliding glass door.
694
00:24:14,886 --> 00:24:19,424
{\an8}One of the offenders goesstraight to Butch and hits him
695
00:24:14,886 --> 00:24:19,424
{\an8}One of the offenders goesstraight to Butch and hits him
696
00:24:19,491 --> 00:24:22,294
{\an8}in the face, resultingin him falling to the ground,
697
00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:26,364
{\an8}where he continues to punchand physically assault Butch.
698
00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:26,364
{\an8}where he continues to punchand physically assault Butch.
699
00:24:27,332 --> 00:24:30,735
{\an8}Sharon runs to
a different room of the house,
700
00:24:27,332 --> 00:24:30,735
{\an8}Sharon runs to
a different room of the house,
701
00:24:30,802 --> 00:24:33,672
{\an8}and a second offenderchases after her.
702
00:24:33,738 --> 00:24:36,608
{\an8}One of them was wearing
a hat and a pair of sunglasses,
703
00:24:33,738 --> 00:24:36,608
{\an8}One of them was wearing
a hat and a pair of sunglasses,
704
00:24:36,675 --> 00:24:41,213
{\an8}and the other waswearing fabric-looking
705
00:24:36,675 --> 00:24:41,213
{\an8}and the other waswearing fabric-looking
706
00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:45,050
{\an8}either cloth or a ragacross the front of his face.
707
00:24:46,218 --> 00:24:50,589
Both were wearing some sortof work gloves or latex gloves.
708
00:24:46,218 --> 00:24:50,589
Both were wearing some sortof work gloves or latex gloves.
709
00:24:50,655 --> 00:24:52,958
{\an8}That, for us,really is a red flag because
710
00:24:50,655 --> 00:24:52,958
{\an8}That, for us,really is a red flag because
711
00:24:53,024 --> 00:24:56,161
{\an8}they didn't depositany fingerprints anywhere.
712
00:24:56,228 --> 00:24:59,664
{\an8}MURPHY: The first assailanthas Butch down on the ground,
713
00:24:56,228 --> 00:24:59,664
{\an8}MURPHY: The first assailanthas Butch down on the ground,
714
00:24:59,731 --> 00:25:02,067
{\an8}and the assailant
continues to maintain control
715
00:25:02,133 --> 00:25:06,605
{\an8}of Butch,and he uses his handgun,
716
00:25:02,133 --> 00:25:06,605
{\an8}of Butch,and he uses his handgun,
717
00:25:06,671 --> 00:25:08,940
{\an8}which appears to be a TEC-9,
because that's
718
00:25:09,007 --> 00:25:11,243
{\an8}what it looks like to meon the video.
719
00:25:09,007 --> 00:25:11,243
{\an8}what it looks like to meon the video.
720
00:25:15,614 --> 00:25:16,848
And repeatedly
721
00:25:15,614 --> 00:25:16,848
And repeatedly
722
00:25:16,915 --> 00:25:19,784
{\an8}slaps Butch with thatin the head.
723
00:25:19,851 --> 00:25:21,686
{\an8}Why did theycontinually beat him?
724
00:25:21,753 --> 00:25:24,723
{\an8}It looks like they're trying toextract information.
725
00:25:21,753 --> 00:25:24,723
{\an8}It looks like they're trying toextract information.
726
00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:26,057
{\an8}But you can't tell because
727
00:25:26,124 --> 00:25:27,659
{\an8}there's no audio togo along with the video.
728
00:25:27,726 --> 00:25:31,196
{\an8}And then assailant number twobrings the female from
729
00:25:27,726 --> 00:25:31,196
{\an8}And then assailant number twobrings the female from
730
00:25:31,263 --> 00:25:33,164
{\an8}that room and puts her nextto the other female and Butch
731
00:25:33,231 --> 00:25:35,300
{\an8}so that all threeare there together
732
00:25:33,231 --> 00:25:35,300
{\an8}so that all threeare there together
733
00:25:35,367 --> 00:25:36,868
{\an8}in that dining room area.
734
00:25:36,935 --> 00:25:39,671
And her feet have been boundwith a telephone cord.
735
00:25:41,339 --> 00:25:43,341
{\an8}It's obvious they'relooking for something.
736
00:25:43,408 --> 00:25:44,843
{\an8}It could be money.
737
00:25:44,910 --> 00:25:46,778
{\an8}Butch has a successfulnightclub.
738
00:25:44,910 --> 00:25:46,778
{\an8}Butch has a successfulnightclub.
739
00:25:46,845 --> 00:25:48,880
I'm thinking the two
assailants probably thought
740
00:25:48,947 --> 00:25:50,882
that Butch kept
the cash in the house.
741
00:25:50,949 --> 00:25:55,120
{\an8}When he runs back out,Butch pays the price every time.
742
00:25:50,949 --> 00:25:55,120
{\an8}When he runs back out,Butch pays the price every time.
743
00:25:55,186 --> 00:25:56,788
{\an8}Because I think they're sayingwe can't find what we're
744
00:25:56,855 --> 00:26:00,325
{\an8}looking for, and he was struckagain with the weapon.
745
00:25:56,855 --> 00:26:00,325
{\an8}looking for, and he was struckagain with the weapon.
746
00:26:01,626 --> 00:26:04,329
{\an8}If it's a robbery, well,now it's a robbery gone bad.
747
00:26:04,396 --> 00:26:06,331
Because not onlydo you have Butch there,
748
00:26:06,398 --> 00:26:07,832
you've got two femaleswho appear
749
00:26:07,899 --> 00:26:10,001
to be there just
simply at the wrong time.
750
00:26:10,802 --> 00:26:12,470
Sharon was begging.
751
00:26:14,172 --> 00:26:17,242
{\an8}He made her get up.
752
00:26:14,172 --> 00:26:17,242
{\an8}He made her get up.
753
00:26:17,309 --> 00:26:19,177
But then she laid on the floor.
754
00:26:20,278 --> 00:26:23,448
{\an8}And then he comesand stands over my sister,
755
00:26:20,278 --> 00:26:23,448
{\an8}And then he comesand stands over my sister,
756
00:26:23,515 --> 00:26:25,750
{\an8}and he shot her.
757
00:26:25,817 --> 00:26:27,786
{\an8}And then he shot at Marie.
758
00:26:27,852 --> 00:26:29,621
{\an8}And then he shot at Butch.
759
00:26:27,852 --> 00:26:29,621
{\an8}And then he shot at Butch.
760
00:26:35,627 --> 00:26:39,531
It's... It's hard to watch.
761
00:26:39,597 --> 00:26:42,667
You're watchinghuman lives being taken.
762
00:26:39,597 --> 00:26:42,667
You're watchinghuman lives being taken.
763
00:26:44,836 --> 00:26:47,072
Despite the years that we have
working the crime scenes
764
00:26:44,836 --> 00:26:47,072
Despite the years that we have
working the crime scenes
765
00:26:47,138 --> 00:26:48,740
or seeing certain things,
766
00:26:48,807 --> 00:26:52,277
it's different when you'reseeing it actually take place.
767
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,917
This video shows the panicin the girls
768
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,917
This video shows the panicin the girls
769
00:26:58,984 --> 00:27:00,852
while also beating up Butch.
770
00:27:00,919 --> 00:27:04,689
It was just really sad to see,and just gruesome.
771
00:27:00,919 --> 00:27:04,689
It was just really sad to see,and just gruesome.
772
00:27:09,361 --> 00:27:13,264
You can't watch that and go
to sleep at night sometimes.
773
00:27:09,361 --> 00:27:13,264
You can't watch that and go
to sleep at night sometimes.
774
00:27:13,331 --> 00:27:16,334
I could be at a party
or at a dinner... (crying)
775
00:27:29,014 --> 00:27:31,016
It's always there.
776
00:27:34,085 --> 00:27:35,954
Always.
777
00:27:34,085 --> 00:27:35,954
Always.
778
00:27:36,021 --> 00:27:37,088
I don't ever have to
see it again.
779
00:27:37,155 --> 00:27:38,957
And I can tell you
every single frame.
780
00:27:41,092 --> 00:27:42,727
It definitely changes you.
781
00:27:45,964 --> 00:27:47,298
Time goes on. You know,
782
00:27:45,964 --> 00:27:47,298
Time goes on. You know,
783
00:27:47,365 --> 00:27:51,903
maybe you don't thinkabout it quite as much.
784
00:27:51,970 --> 00:27:54,305
But, I mean, for years
785
00:27:51,970 --> 00:27:54,305
But, I mean, for years
786
00:27:54,372 --> 00:27:57,175
I thought I was losing my mind.
787
00:27:57,242 --> 00:27:59,744
Because you can't
escape your thoughts.
788
00:27:57,242 --> 00:27:59,744
Because you can't
escape your thoughts.
789
00:27:59,811 --> 00:28:03,648
There's no way. You cantell people you're okay, right?
790
00:28:03,715 --> 00:28:05,150
You can go on with your day,
791
00:28:03,715 --> 00:28:05,150
You can go on with your day,
792
00:28:05,216 --> 00:28:06,618
but, you know, at some point,
793
00:28:06,684 --> 00:28:09,521
you're just alone with yourself.
794
00:28:09,587 --> 00:28:11,389
And then there's that tape.
795
00:28:09,587 --> 00:28:11,389
And then there's that tape.
796
00:28:13,358 --> 00:28:15,693
{\an8}MURPHY: As you're watchingthis video, you cannot identify
797
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,662
{\an8}either oneof the two assailants.
798
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,662
{\an8}either oneof the two assailants.
799
00:28:17,729 --> 00:28:20,632
{\an8}But then, one of the assailants
800
00:28:20,698 --> 00:28:23,802
{\an8}does something that'scompletely unexpected.
801
00:28:20,698 --> 00:28:23,802
{\an8}does something that'scompletely unexpected.
802
00:28:23,868 --> 00:28:25,703
He takes the shirt off his face.
803
00:28:25,770 --> 00:28:30,275
{\an8}Did we just discover whoone of the killers is?
804
00:28:25,770 --> 00:28:30,275
{\an8}Did we just discover whoone of the killers is?
805
00:28:43,888 --> 00:28:46,558
{\an8}MURPHY: Now that all threevictims are dead,
806
00:28:46,624 --> 00:28:49,060
{\an8}suspect number two has taken
his-- the shirt off his face
807
00:28:46,624 --> 00:28:49,060
{\an8}suspect number two has taken
his-- the shirt off his face
808
00:28:49,127 --> 00:28:50,528
{\an8}and revealed himself.
809
00:28:50,595 --> 00:28:53,498
{\an8}He certainly didn't knowabout the camera.
810
00:28:50,595 --> 00:28:53,498
{\an8}He certainly didn't knowabout the camera.
811
00:28:54,532 --> 00:28:56,568
He's to the point where
he's not worried about anybody
812
00:28:56,634 --> 00:28:59,003
identifying him because there's
nobody else in the house.
813
00:29:00,138 --> 00:29:02,073
{\an8}The fact that one ofthe assailants
814
00:29:02,140 --> 00:29:04,175
{\an8}is now revealing his identity,
815
00:29:04,242 --> 00:29:05,343
{\an8}as an investigator,
816
00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:07,245
{\an8}that's a fantastic pieceof evidence
817
00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:07,245
{\an8}that's a fantastic pieceof evidence
818
00:29:07,312 --> 00:29:09,380
{\an8}that you have a videotape
819
00:29:09,447 --> 00:29:11,049
{\an8}of a triple homicide.
820
00:29:11,116 --> 00:29:13,751
Your initial reaction is,
this is a slam dunk case.
821
00:29:11,116 --> 00:29:13,751
Your initial reaction is,
this is a slam dunk case.
822
00:29:13,818 --> 00:29:16,721
We've got them. We've got
them on tape killing this guy.
823
00:29:16,788 --> 00:29:18,890
But then reality sets in
when you watch the tape.
824
00:29:16,788 --> 00:29:18,890
But then reality sets in
when you watch the tape.
825
00:29:20,525 --> 00:29:25,029
{\an8}This is 1994, and you realizeit's in black and white.
826
00:29:20,525 --> 00:29:25,029
{\an8}This is 1994, and you realizeit's in black and white.
827
00:29:25,096 --> 00:29:27,098
{\an8}And the qualityof the cameras were not
828
00:29:27,165 --> 00:29:29,000
{\an8}4K, like we have today.
829
00:29:30,768 --> 00:29:32,904
{\an8}You've got to look atan investigation
830
00:29:32,971 --> 00:29:34,572
{\an8}from how a defense attorney
is going to look at it.
831
00:29:34,639 --> 00:29:36,741
'Cause he's going to try
and pick apart everything
832
00:29:34,639 --> 00:29:36,741
'Cause he's going to try
and pick apart everything
833
00:29:36,808 --> 00:29:38,710
in your case
that you're using as evidence.
834
00:29:40,044 --> 00:29:42,380
{\an8}Investigators could tellfrom that video
835
00:29:40,044 --> 00:29:42,380
{\an8}Investigators could tellfrom that video
836
00:29:42,447 --> 00:29:43,414
{\an8}that suspect number two
837
00:29:43,481 --> 00:29:45,383
{\an8}was approximately six feet tall,
838
00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:48,286
{\an8}roughly 170 pounds, brown hair.
839
00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:48,286
{\an8}roughly 170 pounds, brown hair.
840
00:29:48,353 --> 00:29:50,288
But is that descriptive enough?
841
00:29:53,024 --> 00:29:55,426
So the investigatorsdecided to send that tape
842
00:29:53,024 --> 00:29:55,426
So the investigatorsdecided to send that tape
843
00:29:55,493 --> 00:29:59,230
to the FBI to see,could this be enhanced any?
844
00:30:00,265 --> 00:30:02,400
My understanding ofthe enhancement process
845
00:30:02,467 --> 00:30:04,869
at that time is they had to takestill photographs
846
00:30:04,936 --> 00:30:06,538
taken from the videotape,
847
00:30:04,936 --> 00:30:06,538
taken from the videotape,
848
00:30:06,604 --> 00:30:09,707
and that is what the Bureautries to enhance.
849
00:30:09,774 --> 00:30:11,709
And I'm sure it wasstate of the art at the time.
850
00:30:09,774 --> 00:30:11,709
And I'm sure it wasstate of the art at the time.
851
00:30:11,776 --> 00:30:16,714
{\an8}They could maybe reduce someof the motion blur involved,
852
00:30:16,781 --> 00:30:18,783
{\an8}because, you know, on a video,people are moving.
853
00:30:16,781 --> 00:30:18,783
{\an8}because, you know, on a video,people are moving.
854
00:30:18,850 --> 00:30:21,119
But it was nothing
like you could do today.
855
00:30:21,186 --> 00:30:24,656
{\an8}So it's not that final "gotcha"piece of evidence, you know,
856
00:30:21,186 --> 00:30:24,656
{\an8}So it's not that final "gotcha"piece of evidence, you know,
857
00:30:24,722 --> 00:30:27,025
{\an8}that you're going to haveto convict somebody in a trial.
858
00:30:27,091 --> 00:30:28,660
And then once it was enhanced,
859
00:30:28,726 --> 00:30:30,094
they had
a sketch artist come in.
860
00:30:28,726 --> 00:30:30,094
they had
a sketch artist come in.
861
00:30:31,196 --> 00:30:33,264
{\an8}What we learned is thatthe clarity of the picture
862
00:30:33,331 --> 00:30:34,699
{\an8}still wasn't there.
863
00:30:34,766 --> 00:30:37,802
{\an8}It was still hard to identifythe assailants.
864
00:30:34,766 --> 00:30:37,802
{\an8}It was still hard to identifythe assailants.
865
00:30:37,869 --> 00:30:41,539
The sketch artist was ableto draw a picture without having
866
00:30:37,869 --> 00:30:41,539
The sketch artist was ableto draw a picture without having
867
00:30:41,606 --> 00:30:44,509
the blurriness associatedwith enhancing a photograph.
868
00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:47,612
{\an8}Law enforcement released
a composite sketch
869
00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:47,612
{\an8}Law enforcement released
a composite sketch
870
00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:49,314
{\an8}of the two possible offenders
871
00:30:49,380 --> 00:30:52,817
{\an8}to the public and media outletsin efforts
872
00:30:52,884 --> 00:30:54,652
{\an8}to have someone come forward
873
00:30:52,884 --> 00:30:54,652
{\an8}to have someone come forward
874
00:30:54,719 --> 00:30:56,888
{\an8}and identify
who these people may be.
875
00:30:57,889 --> 00:30:59,924
{\an8}MURPHY: A few weeks later,on July 14,
876
00:30:57,889 --> 00:30:59,924
{\an8}MURPHY: A few weeks later,on July 14,
877
00:30:59,991 --> 00:31:02,360
{\an8}Metro Dade Police investigateda home invasion
878
00:31:02,427 --> 00:31:04,295
{\an8}in which two suspectswere arrested.
879
00:31:04,362 --> 00:31:06,264
When they took the suspects
to the station,
880
00:31:04,362 --> 00:31:06,264
When they took the suspects
to the station,
881
00:31:06,331 --> 00:31:08,633
one of the officers realizedthat the suspects looked
882
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:10,501
very much likethe composite drawing
883
00:31:10,568 --> 00:31:13,338
that Miramar Policehad distributed to everyone.
884
00:31:10,568 --> 00:31:13,338
that Miramar Policehad distributed to everyone.
885
00:31:13,404 --> 00:31:16,641
So they contacted the detectivein charge at Miramar PD,
886
00:31:16,708 --> 00:31:17,942
said, "Hey, you may want
to come down
887
00:31:16,708 --> 00:31:17,942
said, "Hey, you may want
to come down
888
00:31:18,009 --> 00:31:19,043
and take a look at this person."
889
00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:20,678
{\an8}And, "It looks an awful lot
890
00:31:20,745 --> 00:31:22,513
{\an8}like the personin your drawing."
891
00:31:22,580 --> 00:31:25,550
{\an8}Investigatorsfrom Miramar PD went down
892
00:31:22,580 --> 00:31:25,550
{\an8}Investigatorsfrom Miramar PD went down
893
00:31:25,617 --> 00:31:28,419
{\an8}to see these two potential
suspects in the murder case--
894
00:31:28,486 --> 00:31:32,523
{\an8}Pablo Ibar and Francisco Rincon.
895
00:31:28,486 --> 00:31:32,523
{\an8}Pablo Ibar and Francisco Rincon.
896
00:31:32,590 --> 00:31:35,560
{\an8}The sketch of Ibar,
897
00:31:32,590 --> 00:31:35,560
{\an8}The sketch of Ibar,
898
00:31:35,627 --> 00:31:37,262
{\an8}there's no doubtin my mind that's him.
899
00:31:37,328 --> 00:31:38,896
{\an8}Unfortunately,
the second assailant kept
900
00:31:38,963 --> 00:31:40,898
{\an8}his hat and glasses onall the time,
901
00:31:40,965 --> 00:31:43,501
{\an8}so the identifying
characteristics are not there
902
00:31:40,965 --> 00:31:43,501
{\an8}so the identifying
characteristics are not there
903
00:31:43,568 --> 00:31:46,137
{\an8}like they arewith Pablo's drawing.
904
00:31:47,171 --> 00:31:49,240
{\an8}As this investigation hasdeveloped,
905
00:31:47,171 --> 00:31:49,240
{\an8}As this investigation hasdeveloped,
906
00:31:49,307 --> 00:31:52,210
{\an8}we now know that Pabloand his crew have been involved
907
00:31:52,277 --> 00:31:54,012
{\an8}in anotherhome invasion robbery.
908
00:31:52,277 --> 00:31:54,012
{\an8}in anotherhome invasion robbery.
909
00:31:54,078 --> 00:31:56,014
{\an8}They're known to bevery violent.
910
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,183
{\an8}They're known to assaultanybody and everybody
911
00:31:59,250 --> 00:32:00,752
{\an8}to control the situation.
912
00:31:59,250 --> 00:32:00,752
{\an8}to control the situation.
913
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,023
{\an8}MARTINEZ: While under arrest,law enforcement collected
914
00:32:05,089 --> 00:32:08,493
{\an8}the shoes that were being wornby Francisco and Pablo
915
00:32:05,089 --> 00:32:08,493
{\an8}the shoes that were being wornby Francisco and Pablo
916
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:10,528
{\an8}in an effort to compare
917
00:32:10,595 --> 00:32:13,331
{\an8}the bottom of the shoes tothe bloody footprint
918
00:32:10,595 --> 00:32:13,331
{\an8}the bottom of the shoes tothe bloody footprint
919
00:32:13,398 --> 00:32:14,732
{\an8}that was locatedon the crime scene.
920
00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:16,834
MURPHY: You have an expertdo an analysis.
921
00:32:16,901 --> 00:32:18,903
{\an8}Do any of these shoes match?
922
00:32:16,901 --> 00:32:18,903
{\an8}Do any of these shoes match?
923
00:32:18,970 --> 00:32:20,938
{\an8}The shoes from Pablo
didn't match.
924
00:32:21,939 --> 00:32:24,942
{\an8}However, the shoesthat Rincon had on in jail...
925
00:32:21,939 --> 00:32:24,942
{\an8}However, the shoesthat Rincon had on in jail...
926
00:32:25,009 --> 00:32:26,711
Guess what?
927
00:32:26,778 --> 00:32:28,913
They matchedthe bloody footprint.
928
00:32:32,717 --> 00:32:34,952
Law enforcementapproached Rincon--
929
00:32:35,019 --> 00:32:36,254
"Hey, what's going on here?
930
00:32:35,019 --> 00:32:36,254
"Hey, what's going on here?
931
00:32:37,288 --> 00:32:38,556
{\an8}"Why do you have these shoes on
932
00:32:38,623 --> 00:32:40,058
{\an8}that matchfrom the murder site?"
933
00:32:40,124 --> 00:32:41,225
{\an8}Of course...
934
00:32:41,292 --> 00:32:43,127
{\an8}(chuckling) he wants
nothing to do with that.
935
00:32:41,292 --> 00:32:43,127
{\an8}(chuckling) he wants
nothing to do with that.
936
00:32:43,194 --> 00:32:45,730
{\an8}So he explains that Pablo Ibar
937
00:32:45,797 --> 00:32:48,966
{\an8}and a third roommateshare a place together,
938
00:32:45,797 --> 00:32:48,966
{\an8}and a third roommateshare a place together,
939
00:32:49,033 --> 00:32:50,168
{\an8}and it's not unusual for us
940
00:32:50,234 --> 00:32:51,569
{\an8}to change clothing,
to change shoes.
941
00:32:51,636 --> 00:32:53,338
We wear each other's clothes
all the time.
942
00:32:53,404 --> 00:32:56,674
What he says is those shoes
actually belong to Pablo Ibar.
943
00:32:53,404 --> 00:32:56,674
What he says is those shoes
actually belong to Pablo Ibar.
944
00:32:56,741 --> 00:33:00,078
{\an8}MARTINEZ:
Pablo said that was a lie.
945
00:32:56,741 --> 00:33:00,078
{\an8}MARTINEZ:
Pablo said that was a lie.
946
00:33:00,144 --> 00:33:01,879
{\an8}He stated that he liveswith his mother
947
00:33:01,946 --> 00:33:04,315
{\an8}and provided
his mother's address.
948
00:33:04,382 --> 00:33:06,117
So, of course, the investigators
go to the mom's house.
949
00:33:04,382 --> 00:33:06,117
So, of course, the investigators
go to the mom's house.
950
00:33:06,184 --> 00:33:07,418
Now, remember,
951
00:33:07,485 --> 00:33:09,654
Pablo's in custodydown in Dade County.
952
00:33:09,721 --> 00:33:12,123
{\an8}They show Pablo's mom
953
00:33:09,721 --> 00:33:12,123
{\an8}They show Pablo's mom
954
00:33:12,190 --> 00:33:14,392
{\an8}the composite drawing,
and she immediately
955
00:33:14,459 --> 00:33:15,827
{\an8}identifies it as her son,
956
00:33:15,893 --> 00:33:18,229
{\an8}Pablo Ibar.
957
00:33:15,893 --> 00:33:18,229
{\an8}Pablo Ibar.
958
00:33:18,296 --> 00:33:19,464
{\an8}They also learned
959
00:33:19,530 --> 00:33:21,933
{\an8}that Pablo's mother works
for a company called
960
00:33:21,999 --> 00:33:23,534
{\an8}Consolidated Electric.
961
00:33:21,999 --> 00:33:23,534
{\an8}Consolidated Electric.
962
00:33:24,802 --> 00:33:27,505
{\an8}If you remember the blue shirtthat was found in the front yard
963
00:33:27,572 --> 00:33:29,774
{\an8}that's being tested for DNA,
964
00:33:27,572 --> 00:33:29,774
{\an8}that's being tested for DNA,
965
00:33:29,841 --> 00:33:31,042
{\an8}what was on that shirt?
966
00:33:31,109 --> 00:33:32,210
Consolidated Electric.
967
00:33:32,276 --> 00:33:34,712
{\an8}MARTINEZ:
Which ties in Pablo
968
00:33:34,779 --> 00:33:37,148
{\an8}via his motherand her employment,
969
00:33:34,779 --> 00:33:37,148
{\an8}via his motherand her employment,
970
00:33:37,215 --> 00:33:38,649
{\an8}but also the fact
that Sharon's DNA
971
00:33:38,716 --> 00:33:40,952
{\an8}was found on the T-shirt.
972
00:33:41,018 --> 00:33:42,854
{\an8}So the real question is,
973
00:33:41,018 --> 00:33:42,854
{\an8}So the real question is,
974
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,922
{\an8}why is the victim's DNA
on that shirt?
975
00:33:51,829 --> 00:33:53,798
♪ ♪
976
00:33:56,534 --> 00:34:00,171
MARTINEZ:
After investigators goto Pablo's mother's house,
977
00:34:00,238 --> 00:34:03,674
detectives execute a searchwarrant to Pablo's apartment.
978
00:34:00,238 --> 00:34:03,674
detectives execute a searchwarrant to Pablo's apartment.
979
00:34:03,741 --> 00:34:06,344
{\an8}They find a box of latex gloves
980
00:34:06,411 --> 00:34:09,614
{\an8}and also a operator's manual
981
00:34:06,411 --> 00:34:09,614
{\an8}and also a operator's manual
982
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,216
{\an8}for a firearm known as a TEC-9.
983
00:34:13,751 --> 00:34:16,621
{\an8}MURPHY: That's not a commonweapon for people to own.
984
00:34:16,687 --> 00:34:19,290
{\an8}For me, creates suspicion
that whoever has
985
00:34:16,687 --> 00:34:19,290
{\an8}For me, creates suspicion
that whoever has
986
00:34:19,357 --> 00:34:20,625
{\an8}possession of that TEC-9
987
00:34:20,691 --> 00:34:23,928
{\an8}may be involved in somecriminal activities.
988
00:34:23,995 --> 00:34:26,197
{\an8}We know on the video that we saw
989
00:34:23,995 --> 00:34:26,197
{\an8}We know on the video that we saw
990
00:34:26,264 --> 00:34:29,233
{\an8}what we believe isa TEC-9 machine pistol.
991
00:34:30,201 --> 00:34:31,669
Are these the same?
992
00:34:30,201 --> 00:34:31,669
Are these the same?
993
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,342
At the house, they come acrossJean Klimeczko.
994
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,342
At the house, they come acrossJean Klimeczko.
995
00:34:38,409 --> 00:34:40,778
Now, Klimeczko saidhe's only been staying there
996
00:34:40,845 --> 00:34:42,246
just for a short amount of time.
997
00:34:42,313 --> 00:34:45,516
Says he's not involvedin this triple homicide.
998
00:34:42,313 --> 00:34:45,516
Says he's not involvedin this triple homicide.
999
00:34:45,583 --> 00:34:47,285
They show hima composite drawing,
1000
00:34:47,351 --> 00:34:49,754
and he identifies the people
1001
00:34:47,351 --> 00:34:49,754
and he identifies the people
1002
00:34:49,821 --> 00:34:52,256
in the composite drawingas Pablo,
1003
00:34:52,323 --> 00:34:55,126
and another guy namedSeth Penalver,
1004
00:34:52,323 --> 00:34:55,126
and another guy namedSeth Penalver,
1005
00:34:55,193 --> 00:34:58,129
who might be the guywith the hat and the glasses on.
1006
00:34:59,831 --> 00:35:02,133
{\an8}He looks like the personholding the TEC-9,
1007
00:34:59,831 --> 00:35:02,133
{\an8}He looks like the personholding the TEC-9,
1008
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,835
{\an8}the one that assaults Butch
immediately.
1009
00:35:04,869 --> 00:35:07,238
{\an8}They ask Jean Klimeczko
what he knows about
1010
00:35:04,869 --> 00:35:07,238
{\an8}They ask Jean Klimeczko
what he knows about
1011
00:35:07,305 --> 00:35:11,142
{\an8}that particular date and time,on June 26,
1012
00:35:11,209 --> 00:35:13,077
{\an8}the day the three murderswere committed.
1013
00:35:11,209 --> 00:35:13,077
{\an8}the day the three murderswere committed.
1014
00:35:13,144 --> 00:35:15,613
Here comes Pablo and Seth
into the house, and he said,
1015
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,181
Pablo goes into his bedroom,
1016
00:35:17,248 --> 00:35:20,017
comes out with a TEC-9
nine-millimeter machine pistol.
1017
00:35:17,248 --> 00:35:20,017
comes out with a TEC-9
nine-millimeter machine pistol.
1018
00:35:20,084 --> 00:35:21,752
And Pablo and Seth leave.
1019
00:35:21,819 --> 00:35:24,956
Later that morning,
after 7:30 a.m.,
1020
00:35:21,819 --> 00:35:24,956
Later that morning,
after 7:30 a.m.,
1021
00:35:25,022 --> 00:35:26,691
well, here comes
Pablo and Seth back.
1022
00:35:26,757 --> 00:35:27,925
{\an8}And they've got
1023
00:35:27,992 --> 00:35:29,961
{\an8}Pablo's maroon car."
1024
00:35:30,027 --> 00:35:33,064
{\an8}And Klimeczko looks outside
and sees a black Mercedes
1025
00:35:30,027 --> 00:35:33,064
{\an8}And Klimeczko looks outside
and sees a black Mercedes
1026
00:35:33,130 --> 00:35:35,666
{\an8}convertible sittingin the driveway as well.
1027
00:35:38,035 --> 00:35:40,805
The detectives go
to Casey's Nickelodeon.
1028
00:35:40,872 --> 00:35:42,673
They made contactwith the bar manager,
1029
00:35:42,740 --> 00:35:46,177
who recognizedSeth and Pablo's pictures.
1030
00:35:46,244 --> 00:35:47,879
He said he did, in fact,
1031
00:35:47,945 --> 00:35:51,883
see Pablo and Seththat night at the bar,
1032
00:35:47,945 --> 00:35:51,883
see Pablo and Seththat night at the bar,
1033
00:35:51,949 --> 00:35:54,752
that they were frequentcustomers and that they were
1034
00:35:51,949 --> 00:35:54,752
that they were frequentcustomers and that they were
1035
00:35:54,819 --> 00:35:57,021
looking at Butch.
1036
00:35:57,088 --> 00:35:58,189
But he didn't think much of it.
1037
00:35:58,256 --> 00:36:00,057
Just because of the type
of person that Butch is,
1038
00:36:00,124 --> 00:36:01,592
he would calla lot of attention to himself.
1039
00:36:00,124 --> 00:36:01,592
he would calla lot of attention to himself.
1040
00:36:01,659 --> 00:36:02,827
He was flashy.
1041
00:36:02,894 --> 00:36:04,662
He carriedlarge amounts of cash.
1042
00:36:04,729 --> 00:36:06,797
So he could have beenat the club,
1043
00:36:04,729 --> 00:36:06,797
So he could have beenat the club,
1044
00:36:06,864 --> 00:36:08,499
maybe took out money,
1045
00:36:08,566 --> 00:36:11,235
and someone saw him
and then followed them home.
1046
00:36:12,236 --> 00:36:15,506
MURPHY:
Now that the investigatorshave placed Pablo and Seth
1047
00:36:12,236 --> 00:36:15,506
MURPHY:
Now that the investigatorshave placed Pablo and Seth
1048
00:36:15,573 --> 00:36:17,608
at the club
the night before the murders...
1049
00:36:19,277 --> 00:36:20,578
{\an8}...our final theory is
1050
00:36:20,645 --> 00:36:22,580
{\an8}that this is a burglarythat went wrong.
1051
00:36:24,549 --> 00:36:26,617
Pablo and Seth decidedto rob Butch.
1052
00:36:24,549 --> 00:36:26,617
Pablo and Seth decidedto rob Butch.
1053
00:36:27,618 --> 00:36:29,487
So after leaving the club,
1054
00:36:29,554 --> 00:36:32,557
Butch, Marie and Sharoncome back to Butch's house.
1055
00:36:29,554 --> 00:36:32,557
Butch, Marie and Sharoncome back to Butch's house.
1056
00:36:32,623 --> 00:36:34,992
Pablo and Seth followed him.
1057
00:36:36,294 --> 00:36:38,596
They came in throughthe sliding glass door.
1058
00:36:36,294 --> 00:36:38,596
They came in throughthe sliding glass door.
1059
00:36:38,663 --> 00:36:40,898
They encountered Butch Casey.
1060
00:36:40,965 --> 00:36:44,869
Seth immediately struck Butch
and knocked him to the ground.
1061
00:36:40,965 --> 00:36:44,869
Seth immediately struck Butch
and knocked him to the ground.
1062
00:36:44,936 --> 00:36:46,871
Sharon went into a bedroom area,
1063
00:36:46,938 --> 00:36:50,274
and Pablo follows her in thereto get control of her.
1064
00:36:46,938 --> 00:36:50,274
and Pablo follows her in thereto get control of her.
1065
00:36:50,341 --> 00:36:52,143
{\an8}Pablo comes out of the room
1066
00:36:52,209 --> 00:36:53,544
{\an8}asking questions to Butch.
1067
00:36:53,611 --> 00:36:55,146
{\an8}And then he'll run backinto the bedroom
1068
00:36:53,611 --> 00:36:55,146
{\an8}And then he'll run backinto the bedroom
1069
00:36:55,212 --> 00:36:57,381
{\an8}and search for things of value.
1070
00:36:57,448 --> 00:37:00,651
Eventually, Pablo brings Sharonout of that bedroom
1071
00:37:00,718 --> 00:37:02,119
with her feet bound.
1072
00:37:00,718 --> 00:37:02,119
with her feet bound.
1073
00:37:02,186 --> 00:37:04,355
{\an8}And she was laid next to Marie.
1074
00:37:05,356 --> 00:37:07,692
{\an8}It got to the pointwhere Seth and Pablo became
1075
00:37:05,356 --> 00:37:07,692
{\an8}It got to the pointwhere Seth and Pablo became
1076
00:37:07,758 --> 00:37:11,896
{\an8}so flustered that they executedSharon and Marie
1077
00:37:11,963 --> 00:37:13,731
{\an8}along with Butch.
1078
00:37:11,963 --> 00:37:13,731
{\an8}along with Butch.
1079
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,934
{\an8}On the way out of the house,
1080
00:37:17,001 --> 00:37:20,338
{\an8}Pablo left bloody footprintson the floor.
1081
00:37:17,001 --> 00:37:20,338
{\an8}Pablo left bloody footprintson the floor.
1082
00:37:21,973 --> 00:37:25,509
And Pablo threw that shirtdown in the front yard.
1083
00:37:21,973 --> 00:37:25,509
And Pablo threw that shirtdown in the front yard.
1084
00:37:28,145 --> 00:37:31,515
And they make their getawayin Butch's Mercedes.
1085
00:37:28,145 --> 00:37:31,515
And they make their getawayin Butch's Mercedes.
1086
00:37:36,954 --> 00:37:39,323
MARTINEZ:
On August 25, 1994,
1087
00:37:39,390 --> 00:37:41,792
two months
after the triple homicide,
1088
00:37:41,859 --> 00:37:45,429
Pablo Ibar and Seth Penalverwere indicted.
1089
00:37:41,859 --> 00:37:45,429
Pablo Ibar and Seth Penalverwere indicted.
1090
00:37:47,031 --> 00:37:48,699
BOWIE:
Nothing really prepares youto go to court.
1091
00:37:48,766 --> 00:37:50,001
{\an8}I didn't want to have
to sit in there one day
1092
00:37:50,067 --> 00:37:51,202
{\an8}and see any of them.
1093
00:37:51,268 --> 00:37:54,138
But who's gonna be therefor my sister?
1094
00:37:54,205 --> 00:37:58,342
So we were there
every single day.
1095
00:37:54,205 --> 00:37:58,342
So we were there
every single day.
1096
00:37:59,377 --> 00:38:01,979
MURPHY:
When the case finallygoes to trial,
1097
00:37:59,377 --> 00:38:01,979
MURPHY:
When the case finallygoes to trial,
1098
00:38:02,046 --> 00:38:03,681
it resulted in a hung jury.
1099
00:38:04,782 --> 00:38:06,350
Now, that resultedin a second trial.
1100
00:38:06,417 --> 00:38:07,618
But this time,
1101
00:38:06,417 --> 00:38:07,618
But this time,
1102
00:38:07,685 --> 00:38:09,320
the defendants have been
separated
1103
00:38:09,387 --> 00:38:10,855
and go through
individual trials.
1104
00:38:10,921 --> 00:38:12,356
In both trials,
1105
00:38:12,423 --> 00:38:15,426
both defendants were found
guilty and sentenced to death.
1106
00:38:12,423 --> 00:38:15,426
both defendants were found
guilty and sentenced to death.
1107
00:38:17,561 --> 00:38:19,530
BOWIE:
You know, you think you're done.
1108
00:38:17,561 --> 00:38:19,530
BOWIE:
You know, you think you're done.
1109
00:38:19,597 --> 00:38:22,066
Guilty, guilty.
1110
00:38:24,235 --> 00:38:25,636
And you feel like
I could breathe a little bit,
1111
00:38:24,235 --> 00:38:25,636
And you feel like
I could breathe a little bit,
1112
00:38:25,703 --> 00:38:27,972
like, I don't have
to come back down here.
1113
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:30,274
We finally had, like,
a period of a couple of years
1114
00:38:30,341 --> 00:38:32,710
where we didn't have to live
in this space anymore.
1115
00:38:30,341 --> 00:38:32,710
where we didn't have to live
in this space anymore.
1116
00:38:36,180 --> 00:38:37,715
MURPHY:
In 2012,
1117
00:38:36,180 --> 00:38:37,715
MURPHY:
In 2012,
1118
00:38:37,782 --> 00:38:40,084
after almost
two decades in prison,
1119
00:38:40,151 --> 00:38:43,320
Seth's case was overturned,
1120
00:38:40,151 --> 00:38:43,320
Seth's case was overturned,
1121
00:38:43,387 --> 00:38:45,756
and he was found innocent.
1122
00:38:45,823 --> 00:38:48,526
Seth Penalver was released
from prison.
1123
00:38:49,827 --> 00:38:51,595
How did that happen?
1124
00:38:51,662 --> 00:38:54,665
Pablo Ibar's momrecanted her statement.
1125
00:38:54,732 --> 00:38:56,734
Jean Klimeczko recantedhis statement,
1126
00:38:54,732 --> 00:38:56,734
Jean Klimeczko recantedhis statement,
1127
00:38:56,801 --> 00:38:58,035
and it was determined
1128
00:38:58,102 --> 00:39:00,104
that there was noforensic evidence
1129
00:39:00,171 --> 00:39:02,273
that would result
in a conviction.
1130
00:39:00,171 --> 00:39:02,273
that would result
in a conviction.
1131
00:39:02,339 --> 00:39:05,509
BOWIE:
I was just shocked.
1132
00:39:05,576 --> 00:39:07,011
But that jury
1133
00:39:05,576 --> 00:39:07,011
But that jury
1134
00:39:07,078 --> 00:39:09,780
didn't hear the same evidence
the other jury heard.
1135
00:39:10,781 --> 00:39:13,884
You just have to accept it.What can I do?
1136
00:39:10,781 --> 00:39:13,884
You just have to accept it.What can I do?
1137
00:39:13,951 --> 00:39:15,219
That's our legal system.
1138
00:39:15,286 --> 00:39:18,155
He was acquitted.
You accept it, you move on.
1139
00:39:21,058 --> 00:39:24,829
MURPHY:
Then, in 2019, 25 years
1140
00:39:21,058 --> 00:39:24,829
MURPHY:
Then, in 2019, 25 years
1141
00:39:24,895 --> 00:39:27,431
after the murders of Butch,
Marie and Sharon,
1142
00:39:27,498 --> 00:39:31,669
convicted murderer Pablo Ibaris appealing his conviction.
1143
00:39:27,498 --> 00:39:31,669
convicted murderer Pablo Ibaris appealing his conviction.
1144
00:39:31,736 --> 00:39:33,370
Are the charges
gonna be dismissed?
1145
00:39:34,739 --> 00:39:37,341
Investigatorsand prosecutors feel
1146
00:39:34,739 --> 00:39:37,341
Investigatorsand prosecutors feel
1147
00:39:37,408 --> 00:39:39,910
100% certain that they have
1148
00:39:39,977 --> 00:39:42,046
the right suspect
convicted of the murder
1149
00:39:42,113 --> 00:39:43,614
and in prison, where he belongs.
1150
00:39:42,113 --> 00:39:43,614
and in prison, where he belongs.
1151
00:39:43,681 --> 00:39:45,216
{\an8}So, wanting an airtight case,
1152
00:39:45,282 --> 00:39:48,652
{\an8}investigators go backand review the evidence.
1153
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,821
{\an8}They pull out that blue T-shirt.
1154
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,821
{\an8}They pull out that blue T-shirt.
1155
00:39:52,957 --> 00:39:54,291
In 1994,
1156
00:39:54,358 --> 00:39:56,494
there were multiple
DNA samples found,
1157
00:39:54,358 --> 00:39:56,494
there were multiple
DNA samples found,
1158
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,263
but there was only
one positive identification.
1159
00:39:59,330 --> 00:40:00,564
And that was the DNAof Sharon Anderson,
1160
00:40:00,631 --> 00:40:01,665
one of the victims.
1161
00:40:00,631 --> 00:40:01,665
one of the victims.
1162
00:40:02,666 --> 00:40:06,904
The technology for DNA back thenwasn't as advanced as it is now.
1163
00:40:02,666 --> 00:40:06,904
The technology for DNA back thenwasn't as advanced as it is now.
1164
00:40:06,971 --> 00:40:09,240
The techniques that have beendeveloped over the years
1165
00:40:09,306 --> 00:40:10,441
through trial and error,
1166
00:40:10,508 --> 00:40:13,444
have enabledthe forensic analyst
1167
00:40:10,508 --> 00:40:13,444
have enabledthe forensic analyst
1168
00:40:13,511 --> 00:40:15,780
to not require
as large a sample of DNA
1169
00:40:15,846 --> 00:40:17,248
to conduct the analysis.
1170
00:40:18,282 --> 00:40:20,251
With the advancementof DNA testing,
1171
00:40:18,282 --> 00:40:20,251
With the advancementof DNA testing,
1172
00:40:20,317 --> 00:40:23,120
they were now able to provewithout a shadow of a doubt,
1173
00:40:23,187 --> 00:40:26,824
that the DNA on that T-shirtbelonged to Pablo Ibar.
1174
00:40:23,187 --> 00:40:26,824
that the DNA on that T-shirtbelonged to Pablo Ibar.
1175
00:40:29,527 --> 00:40:31,929
{\an8}DNA, along with that tape...
1176
00:40:29,527 --> 00:40:31,929
{\an8}DNA, along with that tape...
1177
00:40:33,731 --> 00:40:35,099
{\an8}...meant
1178
00:40:35,166 --> 00:40:36,834
{\an8}you're not going
to be acquitted.
1179
00:40:35,166 --> 00:40:36,834
{\an8}you're not going
to be acquitted.
1180
00:40:36,901 --> 00:40:38,936
♪ ♪
1181
00:40:41,138 --> 00:40:45,943
There is no such thing
as one day you're just over it.
1182
00:40:41,138 --> 00:40:45,943
There is no such thing
as one day you're just over it.
1183
00:40:46,010 --> 00:40:48,512
The only thing
that's different is time.
1184
00:40:48,579 --> 00:40:51,782
You feel less intense over time.
1185
00:40:48,579 --> 00:40:51,782
You feel less intense over time.
1186
00:40:51,849 --> 00:40:53,784
Although it is still painful.
1187
00:40:53,851 --> 00:40:55,986
It will be painful
till the day that I die.
1188
00:40:53,851 --> 00:40:55,986
It will be painful
till the day that I die.
1189
00:40:56,053 --> 00:40:57,988
♪ Look up to the sky ♪
1190
00:40:58,055 --> 00:40:59,390
♪ And it all feels
pretty dark... ♪
1191
00:40:59,456 --> 00:41:00,658
BOWIE:
I think Sharon would have been
1192
00:41:00,724 --> 00:41:02,860
really a great mother.
1193
00:41:00,724 --> 00:41:02,860
really a great mother.
1194
00:41:02,927 --> 00:41:04,829
I just wanted her
to live her life.
1195
00:41:04,895 --> 00:41:06,330
♪ Looking to myself ♪
1196
00:41:06,397 --> 00:41:08,566
♪ And it feels like
I fell apart... ♪
1197
00:41:06,397 --> 00:41:08,566
♪ And it feels like
I fell apart... ♪
1198
00:41:08,632 --> 00:41:12,703
BOWIE:
Sharon and Marie were justrobbed of all of that.
1199
00:41:12,770 --> 00:41:14,471
25 is too young.
1200
00:41:14,538 --> 00:41:16,473
♪ Don't know where to go ♪
1201
00:41:16,540 --> 00:41:19,043
♪ Am I out here all alone? ♪
1202
00:41:16,540 --> 00:41:19,043
♪ Am I out here all alone? ♪
1203
00:41:20,044 --> 00:41:21,879
No one's life should end
like that.
1204
00:41:21,946 --> 00:41:24,481
Not just for being
at somebody's house.
1205
00:41:28,786 --> 00:41:34,491
♪ 'Cause if we hold together ♪
1206
00:41:28,786 --> 00:41:34,491
♪ 'Cause if we hold together ♪
1207
00:41:36,293 --> 00:41:41,432
♪ Black or white don't matter ♪
1208
00:41:36,293 --> 00:41:41,432
♪ Black or white don't matter ♪
1209
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:48,539
♪ If we listen for each other ♪
1210
00:41:49,907 --> 00:41:55,446
♪ What sweet songs whisper ♪
1211
00:41:49,907 --> 00:41:55,446
♪ What sweet songs whisper ♪
1212
00:41:56,513 --> 00:41:58,949
♪ To wish us well ♪
1213
00:42:00,117 --> 00:42:05,723
♪ To wish us well,
to wish us well ♪
1214
00:42:00,117 --> 00:42:05,723
♪ To wish us well,
to wish us well ♪
1215
00:42:07,191 --> 00:42:10,527
♪ To wish us well. ♪
1216
00:42:11,495 --> 00:42:15,432
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