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("Won't Get Fooled Again"
by The Who playing)
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NARRATOR:
CSI: Miami, the globaltelevision phenomenon.
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NARRATOR:
CSI: Miami, the globaltelevision phenomenon.
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In this series,we'll explore crime
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In this series,we'll explore crime
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through an entirely new lens.
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{\an8}DISPATCHER:
Marlene Warren was just shot.
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NARRATOR:
The investigationson this program are true.
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NARRATOR:
The investigationson this program are true.
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Ride alongwith the real CSI experts.
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Ride alongwith the real CSI experts.
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VINCE WEINER:
This was the most brutalhomicide in over 25 years.
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CRUX CONCEPTION:
Forensic science,
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it was the key witness.
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it was the key witness.
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NARRATOR:
Talk to the real suspects.
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I didn't kill anybody, dude.
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NARRATOR:
Hear from the real victims.
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NARRATOR:
Hear from the real victims.
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I couldn't believe it.
I'm in a state of shock.
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NARRATOR:
And ultimately solve the case
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through the useof forensic science.
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We still have a homicide suspect
somewhere out there.
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NARRATOR: This is...
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WOMAN: A murder...
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NARRATOR: This is...
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WOMAN: A murder...
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REPORTER: A disturbing storyhas come in...
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(overlapping voices)
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NEWSMAN:
We start with breaking news...
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REPORTER:
Palm Beach County Sheriff'sdeputies say
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they found the 21-year-old
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they found the 21-year-old
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with a knife wound to his chest.
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{\an8}Right now,detectives are trying to
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{\an8}track down what exactlyhappened here in this house
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{\an8}track down what exactlyhappened here in this house
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{\an8}that left one man deadand a community in shock.
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{\an8}On November 17, in 2016,
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{\an8}On November 17, in 2016,
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{\an8}I took a call for a homicide.
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{\an8}I took a call for a homicide.
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It was a death investigation.
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{\an8}And when I arrived on scene,
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{\an8}the boy's mom, her boyfriend,
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{\an8}the boy's mom, her boyfriend,
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{\an8}and a friend that was visiting,
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{\an8}all three of them outside.
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{\an8}all three of them outside.
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{\an8}I start on the outside,taking photos
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{\an8}of the scene, the location.
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{\an8}And then I work my wayto the front door.
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{\an8}And then I work my wayto the front door.
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{\an8}The front door was wide open.
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{\an8}My name is Crux Conception.
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{\an8}I'm a retired homicide detective
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{\an8}I'm a retired homicide detective
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{\an8}and criminal profiler.
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{\an8}There wasn't any signsof forced entry,
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{\an8}There wasn't any signsof forced entry,
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{\an8}which means the perpetratorhad access to the home.
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{\an8}which means the perpetratorhad access to the home.
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{\an8}KELLY:
The minute I walk in the door...
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{\an8}KELLY:
The minute I walk in the door...
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{\an8}the first thing I noticed
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{\an8}was a very neat house.
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{\an8}was a very neat house.
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{\an8}When I walked intothe kitchen,
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{\an8}there was a knifeon the counter.
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{\an8}there was a knifeon the counter.
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{\an8}The blade was soaked.
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{\an8}It had blood on it.
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{\an8}It had blood on it.
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{\an8}And in a hallway,there was blood everywhere.
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{\an8}And in a hallway,there was blood everywhere.
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{\an8}There's also blood smears
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{\an8}There's also blood smears
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{\an8}on the floor and on the walls.
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{\an8}In the bedroom,
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{\an8}a young man was layingon the floor
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{\an8}a young man was layingon the floor
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{\an8}on his back.
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{\an8}There was bloodall over his clothing.
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{\an8}There was bloodall over his clothing.
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{\an8}A very bloody crime scene.
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{\an8}The bed,the mattress, the sheets
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{\an8}The bed,the mattress, the sheets
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{\an8}on the bed were blood-soaked.
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{\an8}HEIDI SIEVERS:
It's evident that this was not
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{\an8}a stationary or static event.
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{\an8}a stationary or static event.
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{\an8}My name is Heidi Sievers,
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{\an8}and I'm a bloodstain pattern
analyst.
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{\an8}The bloodletting event mostlikely happened in the kitchen
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{\an8}near the hallway, runningto the decedent's bedroom.
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{\an8}near the hallway, runningto the decedent's bedroom.
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Due to the fact that thereare directional notations
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Due to the fact that thereare directional notations
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in the blood, signifying
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it was moving in that direction,
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{\an8}but also the changein volume of blood.
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{\an8}but also the changein volume of blood.
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{\an8}That volume startedto increase as the decedent
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{\an8}moved down the hallway.
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{\an8}moved down the hallway.
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{\an8}In the entranceway,
there is blood droplets
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{\an8}In the entranceway,
there is blood droplets
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{\an8}on the ceiling,which would indicate casting.
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{\an8}If you pull a bloody knife
out of somebody,
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{\an8}the blood's going to
fly off the knife handle,
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{\an8}the blood's going to
fly off the knife handle,
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{\an8}and it's going toleave marks on the ceilings.
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{\an8}SIEVERS: The victim sufferedseven distinct
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{\an8}sharp force trauma wounds.
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{\an8}I saw wounds on both hands.
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{\an8}On the thigh,an injury to the upper back,
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{\an8}On the thigh,an injury to the upper back,
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{\an8}and there was a noticeable wound
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{\an8}to his upper chest.
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{\an8}to his upper chest.
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{\an8}The stab wound
that he had to the chest...
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{\an8}...it was non-survivable.
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It's possiblehe just didn't see it coming,
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It's possiblehe just didn't see it coming,
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or was caught totally off guard.
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I cannot imagine
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what was going through his mind.
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what was going through his mind.
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SIEVERS:
Typically, when we'redealing with a stabbing,
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especially to this totality,
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you're dealing with something
that is a personal attack.
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you're dealing with something
that is a personal attack.
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{\an8}CONCEPTION:
When we hear "crime of passion,"
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{\an8}everyone thinks broken heart.
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{\an8}everyone thinks broken heart.
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{\an8}But passion is
a psychological term.
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Not only does it
suggest opportunity,
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Not only does it
suggest opportunity,
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it also suggests rage.
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{\an8}Investigators collected
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{\an8}several pieces of evidence.
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{\an8}several pieces of evidence.
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One was the knife.
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It was a kitchen knife
with a white handle
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and a blade
approximately nine inches long.
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and a blade
approximately nine inches long.
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{\an8}It coincideswith the type of injuries
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{\an8}that the victim sustained.
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{\an8}that the victim sustained.
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KELLY:
This is the handiest knifein a knife set.
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This is your sharp knife
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that you do
all of your hard work with.
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that you do
all of your hard work with.
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CONCEPTION:
It was collected and thensent off to the lab
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for fingerprints
and DNA analysis as well.
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for fingerprints
and DNA analysis as well.
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The decedent on scene
was identified
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by his mother as
21-year-old James Barry.
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by his mother as
21-year-old James Barry.
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{\an8}James Barry was my younger
brother and only brother.
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{\an8}James Barry was my younger
brother and only brother.
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Around 12:20 that night,
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Around 12:20 that night,
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I had a call from my father.
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(phone ringing)
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I will never forget
the tone of my father's voice
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I will never forget
the tone of my father's voice
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sharing with me that,
"Someone murdered your brother."
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sharing with me that,
"Someone murdered your brother."
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I collapsed crying and screaming
on top of my lungs,
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saying this can't be true.
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saying this can't be true.
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And I was in complete disbelief.
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It was the absolute
worst night of my life.
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It was the absolute
worst night of my life.
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James and I were very close.
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Even though we hadthe seven-year age difference.
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Even though we hadthe seven-year age difference.
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I always made sure
if anybody picked on my brother,
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they had to deal with me.
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He was a gamer.
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We were big into
the Pokémon stuff.
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He loved video games.
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He loved video games.
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James made lots offriends through gaming.
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James made lots offriends through gaming.
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He was your perfect son,
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your perfect brother.
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your perfect brother.
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He didn't havea mean bone in him.
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Everybody loved him.
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I can't think of a person
that didn't like him.
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I can't think of a person
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We're just shocked
that it even happened.
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We're just shocked
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CONCEPTION:
Detectives now focus
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on the three witnesses:
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Jeff, the victim's best friend,
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Jeff, the victim's best friend,
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James's mom, Nicola,
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and her boyfriend, Guy.
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and her boyfriend, Guy.
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All three witnesses claim
that they were asleep,
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and didn't hear or see
a thing during this incident.
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and didn't hear or see
a thing during this incident.
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{\an8}Investigators
document the presence of blood
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{\an8}on Jeff and Guy,
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{\an8}on Jeff and Guy,
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{\an8}all over their hands...
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{\an8}and on their clothing.
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{\an8}and on their clothing.
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{\an8}Those pieces of clothing
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{\an8}bearing bloodstains
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{\an8}were sent for DNA analysis.
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{\an8}In an investigation like this,where you have
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{\an8}potential witnesses
or suspects on scene,
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{\an8}it is importantfor investigators
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{\an8}it is importantfor investigators
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{\an8}to interview each of themseparately.
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{\an8}They first come to
the decedent's mother, Nicola.
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{\an8}They first come to
the decedent's mother, Nicola.
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{\an8}KELLY:
I met with the boy's mom.
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She was obviously distraught
and in a difficult place.
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She was obviously distraught
and in a difficult place.
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Nicola informs the police
that she wears
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Nicola informs the police
that she wears
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earplugs while she sleeps
because of Guy's loud snoring.
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earplugs while she sleeps
because of Guy's loud snoring.
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So it makes sense that she could
not hear the screaming
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and the noise during the attack.
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CONCEPTION:
Nicola and James,
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by all accounts,
they had a very,
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by all accounts,
they had a very,
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very loving relationship.
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{\an8}It's rare where you would havea mother kill her adult son.
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{\an8}It's rare where you would havea mother kill her adult son.
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{\an8}More importantly,
she also didn't have blood
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{\an8}on her hands
like the other two did.
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{\an8}on her hands
like the other two did.
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{\an8}Detectives do not believe
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{\an8}that Nicola is a suspect.
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{\an8}However, Guy and Jeffare both people of interest.
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{\an8}However, Guy and Jeffare both people of interest.
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{\an8}Both of them literally
have blood on their hands.
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{\an8}Both of them literally
have blood on their hands.
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{\an8}How did three people
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{\an8}not hear a sound
during this attack?
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{\an8}not hear a sound
during this attack?
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Could they have truly
slept through a violent murder,
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Could they have truly
slept through a violent murder,
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or is somebody lying?
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Could one of these witnesses
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actually be the killer?
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actually be the killer?
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{\an8}REPORTER: Rosemarie Barryis struggling to cope
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{\an8}with the deathof her grandson James.
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{\an8}She told me by phoneshe cries a lot.
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{\an8}She told me by phoneshe cries a lot.
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{\an8}ROSEMARIE: For me, a loving,gentle, beautiful young man.
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{\an8}ROSEMARIE: For me, a loving,gentle, beautiful young man.
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{\an8}REPORTER: The Palm BeachCounty Sheriff's Office says
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{\an8}someone stabbedthe 21-year-old man in his home.
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{\an8}Upon reviewing
the medical examiner's report,
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{\an8}Upon reviewing
the medical examiner's report,
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{\an8}James suffered three woundsto his hands.
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{\an8}That's a defensive wound.
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{\an8}You're trying to fight off
your attacker,
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{\an8}and in the process,you get struck.
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{\an8}and in the process,you get struck.
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{\an8}He had four actual stab wounds
to the left side of his chest,
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{\an8}He had four actual stab wounds
to the left side of his chest,
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{\an8}his abdomen, his backand his right thigh.
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{\an8}The stab wounds in his back
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{\an8}The stab wounds in his back
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{\an8}indicate that he wastrying to run
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{\an8}and flee for his life.
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{\an8}SIEVERS:
His cause of death
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{\an8}was attributed to a seven-inch
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{\an8}stab wound
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{\an8}to his left upper chest.
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{\an8}to his left upper chest.
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One question that aroseduring the investigation
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was how did no one in this house
hear him screaming for help
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was how did no one in this house
hear him screaming for help
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while he was being stabbed
multiple times?
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{\an8}And a reason for that might be,per the autopsy report,
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{\an8}his chest cavitywas full of blood,
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{\an8}his chest cavitywas full of blood,
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{\an8}so he might not have hadthe physical ability to scream.
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{\an8}so he might not have hadthe physical ability to scream.
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And when he did, he would have
been pushing out blood
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from his mouth
and even from his nose.
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{\an8}From the end of that hallway
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{\an8}all the way to his bedroom,he's trying to scream for help
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{\an8}and nobody can hear him.
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{\an8}and nobody can hear him.
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{\an8}KELLY:
My first thought was,
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{\an8}it must have been
a hell of a fight with a knife.
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{\an8}It must have been swift.
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{\an8}Who is the person
that did this to this boy?
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Our first suspect is Jeff.
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He's 24 years of age.
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He's 24 years of age.
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He's also the best friend
of our victim
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and present at the homicide.
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KELLY:
Jeff is a gamer.
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KELLY:
Jeff is a gamer.
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He used to frequent there a lot.
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Sometimes,
would spend the night.
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SIEVERS:
The night of James's murder,
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SIEVERS:
The night of James's murder,
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he came over to play
video games, hang out
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and essentially sleep over.
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and essentially sleep over.
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{\an8}He has the best opportunity
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{\an8}out of anyone
to commit this crime
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{\an8}out of anyone
to commit this crime
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{\an8}because he was actuallyin the victim's bedroom
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{\an8}at the time that it occurred.
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{\an8}at the time that it occurred.
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CONCEPTION:
Investigators interviewed Jeff
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to get his account of the events
which had transpired that night.
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Although Jeff is distraught,
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this does not clear him
from being a suspect.
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this does not clear him
from being a suspect.
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{\an8}As a seasoned detective,you see people
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{\an8}putting on fake tearsto throw us off the scent.
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The hard facts that
investigators know is that Jeff
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The hard facts that
investigators know is that Jeff
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was in the roomwhere James died.
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was in the roomwhere James died.
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James and Jeff,
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their social lifeconsisted of gaming,
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their social lifeconsisted of gaming,
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which is known to sometimescause emotions, outbursts.
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which is known to sometimescause emotions, outbursts.
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Lengthy exposure
to violent video games
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might cause lack of empathy.
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might cause lack of empathy.
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It's important forthe investigators to consider
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the gaming culture
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when looking at Jeffas a person of interest.
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when looking at Jeffas a person of interest.
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Could he have killed James?
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Let's compare the physicality
of the people involved.
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Let's compare the physicality
of the people involved.
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We have Jeff,who is six-one, 210 pounds.
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Then we have James,who is five-nine, 129 pounds.
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Then we have James,who is five-nine, 129 pounds.
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It's apparent that Jeff is
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It's apparent that Jeff is
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larger than James,
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and could possibly havethe ability to overpower him.
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and could possibly havethe ability to overpower him.
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Our first theory is...
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...after dinner, James and Jeff
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go back to his bedroomto play video games.
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go back to his bedroomto play video games.
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They were in some typeof competition
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or tournament together,and James beat Jeff.
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or tournament together,and James beat Jeff.
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Something gets heatedover the game,
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and that argumentcontinues to boil.
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and that argumentcontinues to boil.
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At some point, the boys
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make their way back outto the kitchen.
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Jeff just snapped.
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Jeff just snapped.
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He grabs a knifeand stabs James.
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They make their way backinto the bedroom.
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Jeff snaps out of itand realizes
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Jeff snaps out of itand realizes
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that he has to cover this up.
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Jeff opens the door
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in order to stage a break-in.
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He then pretendsto frantically call for help
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He then pretendsto frantically call for help
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from Guy and Nicola.
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{\an8}Blood evidence speakswhen no one else can.
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{\an8}Jeff did have blood on his hands
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{\an8}Jeff did have blood on his hands
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{\an8}and on his clothing.
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{\an8}Investigators had to photograph
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{\an8}and analyze the typeof bloodstains on him.
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{\an8}and analyze the typeof bloodstains on him.
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{\an8}If he had been the perpetrator,
we would likely
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{\an8}see bloodstains that have forcebehind them or spatter.
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{\an8}see bloodstains that have forcebehind them or spatter.
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{\an8}We would see stainson Jeff's clothing
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{\an8}We would see stainson Jeff's clothing
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{\an8}that match that of the wallswithin the home.
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{\an8}In examining
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{\an8}In examining
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{\an8}the photographs of Jeff,
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{\an8}all of the bloodstains on him
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{\an8}are forms of transfer patterns,or swipes and wipes.
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{\an8}are forms of transfer patterns,or swipes and wipes.
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So, if you had wet hands
or bloody hands
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and you moved them
across your clothing,
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which are all passive stains.
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That coincideswith his statement
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That coincideswith his statement
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of attempting to help James,try and render aid
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and stay with him untilfirst responders got there.
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and stay with him untilfirst responders got there.
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{\an8}The bloodstain patterns
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{\an8}were consistent with Jeff'saccount of that night,
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{\an8}which makesinvestigators believe
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{\an8}which makesinvestigators believe
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{\an8}that Jeff's no longer a suspect.
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Next, detectivesneed to interview Guy,
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Next, detectivesneed to interview Guy,
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the mother's boyfriend.
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Since Guy is somewhat
in a fatherly role
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as Nicola's boyfriend,
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as Nicola's boyfriend,
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is there any type of resentment
from Guy to James
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or James to Guy?
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{\an8}ALEXANDRA: My mom hadmultiple miscarriages, so...
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{\an8}James was a miracle baby.
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{\an8}James was a miracle baby.
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It was nice not to bethe only child anymore.
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Growing up,we had really good memories,
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Growing up,we had really good memories,
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you know, as a family.
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Before my parents divorced,James was seven or eight.
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Before my parents divorced,James was seven or eight.
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You know,it was tough on both of us.
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The relationship
with Mom and Guy,
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The relationship
with Mom and Guy,
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Guy moved in pretty quickly.
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My brother and I had a hard time
accepting him at first.
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My brother and him
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My brother and him
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learned how to coexist,
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but it wasn't an easy thing.
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but it wasn't an easy thing.
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Eventually, we saw
that he was gonna stick around,
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so we got to know him.
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so we got to know him.
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Until we figure out how
that relationship actually was,
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if there was harmony
or if there was chaos,
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if there was harmony
or if there was chaos,
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then Guy is a suspect.
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KELLY:
He'd explained to mehow he was a butcher,
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and he saidthat of all the knives
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and he saidthat of all the knives
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that anybody could have grabbed,
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that was the sharpest knifein the house.
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{\an8}CONCEPTION:
He also admits
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{\an8}CONCEPTION:
He also admits
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{\an8}that it's the same knife
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{\an8}he used to carve the pot roast
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{\an8}for last evening's dinner.
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{\an8}for last evening's dinner.
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The next
investigative theory is...
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...around midnight,Guy can't fall asleep,
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...around midnight,Guy can't fall asleep,
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so he gets up, Jamesis still playing video games,
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but he decides to take a break,
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but he decides to take a break,
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and he goes to the kitchen.
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When he sees Guy,they exchange words.
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Guy goes into a fit of rage.
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Guy goes into a fit of rage.
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He grabs his chef knife.
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He stabs James.
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James then runstowards his bedroom
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James then runstowards his bedroom
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while Guy is stillattacking him.
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James, surprising Jeff,collapses on his bed.
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James, surprising Jeff,collapses on his bed.
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Guy drops the knifeand runs back to his room.
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Guy drops the knifeand runs back to his room.
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He also admits that,
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after removing the knife,he washes his hands.
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Does that send a red flag? Yes.
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Does that send a red flag? Yes.
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No one else is washing
their hands.
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From the timehe picked up the knife
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From the timehe picked up the knife
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to the time he washed his hands,
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Guy is literally
tampering with evidence.
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I know most men, 58,are in a profession,
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I know most men, 58,are in a profession,
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making a living for themselves.
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You have a 21-year-oldliving at home with mom.
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You have a 21-year-oldliving at home with mom.
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There could be
some resentment there.
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That's a boiling point.
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That's a boiling point.
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Could Guy be the killer?
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♪ ♪
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00:20:31,330 --> 00:20:33,498
{\an8}After reviewing
Guy's stats and interview,
496
00:20:33,565 --> 00:20:36,902
{\an8}he could have a motive,
and he also has the means.
497
00:20:33,565 --> 00:20:36,902
{\an8}he could have a motive,
and he also has the means.
498
00:20:40,105 --> 00:20:42,374
{\an8}SIEVERS:
Guy certainly has the strength
499
00:20:40,105 --> 00:20:42,374
{\an8}SIEVERS:
Guy certainly has the strength
500
00:20:42,441 --> 00:20:44,876
{\an8}and the skills with a knife
501
00:20:44,943 --> 00:20:48,046
{\an8}to overpower and carry outan attack like this on James.
502
00:20:44,943 --> 00:20:48,046
{\an8}to overpower and carry outan attack like this on James.
503
00:20:53,285 --> 00:20:55,354
Looking at Guyas a person of interest,
504
00:20:55,420 --> 00:20:56,989
we need to think about,
505
00:20:57,055 --> 00:20:59,992
is there any evidencelinking him to that scene?
506
00:20:57,055 --> 00:20:59,992
is there any evidencelinking him to that scene?
507
00:21:00,058 --> 00:21:02,327
{\an8}Bloodstains on his clothing,as well as DNA
508
00:21:02,394 --> 00:21:05,163
{\an8}or fingerprintsrelating to the knife.
509
00:21:02,394 --> 00:21:05,163
{\an8}or fingerprintsrelating to the knife.
510
00:21:05,230 --> 00:21:07,032
{\an8}Is there any evidencethat could help
511
00:21:07,099 --> 00:21:11,103
{\an8}establish Guy's innocence
or guilt?
512
00:21:07,099 --> 00:21:11,103
{\an8}establish Guy's innocence
or guilt?
513
00:21:13,138 --> 00:21:14,439
{\an8}CONCEPTION:
Investigators
514
00:21:14,506 --> 00:21:16,842
{\an8}circle back to the body.
515
00:21:16,908 --> 00:21:19,611
{\an8}SIEVERS: It was theorizedthat the first wound was
516
00:21:16,908 --> 00:21:19,611
{\an8}SIEVERS: It was theorizedthat the first wound was
517
00:21:19,678 --> 00:21:21,480
{\an8}the stab wound
to James's abdomen.
518
00:21:23,181 --> 00:21:25,217
{\an8}When we're lookingat wound analysis,
519
00:21:25,283 --> 00:21:27,452
{\an8}typically, the woundsearlier on in the event
520
00:21:27,519 --> 00:21:30,455
{\an8}are going to be deeperand more severe...
521
00:21:27,519 --> 00:21:30,455
{\an8}are going to be deeperand more severe...
522
00:21:33,992 --> 00:21:36,161
...because the assailant
will have more energy.
523
00:21:33,992 --> 00:21:36,161
...because the assailant
will have more energy.
524
00:21:37,162 --> 00:21:39,931
As that event carries on,
525
00:21:39,998 --> 00:21:42,267
the assailant will growmore fatigued.
526
00:21:39,998 --> 00:21:42,267
the assailant will growmore fatigued.
527
00:21:42,334 --> 00:21:44,336
The stab wound
in James's abdomen
528
00:21:44,403 --> 00:21:46,471
portrayed an upwarddirectionality...
529
00:21:47,773 --> 00:21:49,775
...suggesting we havesomeone lower,
530
00:21:49,841 --> 00:21:52,010
and their natural
holding position would be
531
00:21:52,077 --> 00:21:53,512
in the area of his abdomen.
532
00:21:52,077 --> 00:21:53,512
in the area of his abdomen.
533
00:21:56,081 --> 00:21:59,518
We have the wound
to the upper left chest
534
00:21:56,081 --> 00:21:59,518
We have the wound
to the upper left chest
535
00:21:59,584 --> 00:22:01,086
where James was then bent over.
536
00:22:01,153 --> 00:22:02,621
And we now have switched
537
00:22:02,688 --> 00:22:07,225
to an overhand swingof that knife going downward
538
00:22:02,688 --> 00:22:07,225
to an overhand swingof that knife going downward
539
00:22:07,292 --> 00:22:09,094
as well as from left to right.
540
00:22:11,163 --> 00:22:13,598
{\an8}We also have a linearcast-off pattern
541
00:22:13,665 --> 00:22:15,267
{\an8}on the ceiling,
542
00:22:15,333 --> 00:22:19,738
{\an8}as well as the partial wallabove James's bedroom door.
543
00:22:15,333 --> 00:22:19,738
{\an8}as well as the partial wallabove James's bedroom door.
544
00:22:20,739 --> 00:22:22,674
{\an8}In order to createa pattern like that,
545
00:22:22,741 --> 00:22:24,176
{\an8}a suspect would have had
to have been able
546
00:22:22,741 --> 00:22:24,176
{\an8}a suspect would have had
to have been able
547
00:22:24,242 --> 00:22:27,479
{\an8}to freely swing that knifeabove their head.
548
00:22:27,546 --> 00:22:28,480
Someone with significant height
549
00:22:28,547 --> 00:22:29,648
would not be able
550
00:22:28,547 --> 00:22:29,648
would not be able
551
00:22:29,715 --> 00:22:31,983
to freely swing their arm
up over their head
552
00:22:32,050 --> 00:22:33,752
to create a pattern like that.
553
00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:37,456
{\an8}Based on not onlythe bloodstain patterns,
554
00:22:37,522 --> 00:22:40,592
{\an8}but also the wounds...
555
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,029
{\an8}...we can establish a relative
height of our suspect.
556
00:22:44,996 --> 00:22:47,399
CONCEPTION: The perpetrator hadto be shorter than James,
557
00:22:44,996 --> 00:22:47,399
CONCEPTION: The perpetrator hadto be shorter than James,
558
00:22:47,466 --> 00:22:49,334
who was five-nine.
559
00:22:49,401 --> 00:22:52,537
So this is going to logistically
rule out Guy and Jeff.
560
00:22:56,508 --> 00:22:58,844
♪ ♪
561
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,315
{\an8}Investigators receivedthe results
562
00:23:03,381 --> 00:23:05,183
{\an8}from the forensic analysis
563
00:23:03,381 --> 00:23:05,183
{\an8}from the forensic analysis
564
00:23:05,250 --> 00:23:07,819
{\an8}for the evidence recoveredat the crime scene.
565
00:23:10,055 --> 00:23:13,158
SIEVERS:
The DNA analysis came backof the blood only belonging
566
00:23:10,055 --> 00:23:13,158
SIEVERS:
The DNA analysis came backof the blood only belonging
567
00:23:13,225 --> 00:23:17,829
to James, and no fingerprintswere recovered.
568
00:23:13,225 --> 00:23:17,829
to James, and no fingerprintswere recovered.
569
00:23:17,896 --> 00:23:19,364
And that is likely dueto the fact
570
00:23:19,431 --> 00:23:22,300
that the handle of that knifeis heavily textured
571
00:23:22,367 --> 00:23:25,003
and corrugated, which isnot a surface conducive
572
00:23:22,367 --> 00:23:25,003
and corrugated, which isnot a surface conducive
573
00:23:25,070 --> 00:23:27,372
to leaving latent print residue.
574
00:23:27,439 --> 00:23:30,842
We don't have any suspect DNA,
any foreign DNA,
575
00:23:27,439 --> 00:23:30,842
We don't have any suspect DNA,
any foreign DNA,
576
00:23:30,909 --> 00:23:33,011
and we don't haveany fingerprints
577
00:23:33,078 --> 00:23:34,513
to later compare to.
578
00:23:36,014 --> 00:23:38,784
Detectives are investigating
a real, live whodunnit.
579
00:23:41,219 --> 00:23:44,356
{\an8}SIEVERS: As crime sceneinvestigators search and process
580
00:23:44,422 --> 00:23:45,690
{\an8}the house,
581
00:23:45,757 --> 00:23:47,392
{\an8}they come across a cell phone
582
00:23:45,757 --> 00:23:47,392
{\an8}they come across a cell phone
583
00:23:47,459 --> 00:23:49,060
{\an8}just outside the back door
584
00:23:49,127 --> 00:23:51,163
{\an8}on the south sideof the residence.
585
00:23:56,568 --> 00:23:59,971
CONCEPTION:
It was a cell phonewith a pink protective cover.
586
00:23:56,568 --> 00:23:59,971
CONCEPTION:
It was a cell phonewith a pink protective cover.
587
00:24:00,038 --> 00:24:01,139
{\an8}It does not belong
588
00:24:01,206 --> 00:24:03,642
{\an8}to any of the three individuals
589
00:24:03,708 --> 00:24:05,377
{\an8}in the house at the time
of the attack
590
00:24:03,708 --> 00:24:05,377
{\an8}in the house at the time
of the attack
591
00:24:05,443 --> 00:24:07,379
{\an8}or to the victim.
592
00:24:07,445 --> 00:24:09,748
{\an8}So, whose phone is this?
593
00:24:09,815 --> 00:24:13,919
SIEVERS:
Investigators trace the phoneand it comes back to belonging
594
00:24:09,815 --> 00:24:13,919
SIEVERS:
Investigators trace the phoneand it comes back to belonging
595
00:24:13,985 --> 00:24:16,454
to 20-year-old Melanie Eam.
596
00:24:19,090 --> 00:24:21,860
{\an8}Melanie was his first
and only girlfriend.
597
00:24:21,927 --> 00:24:24,296
They met throughsome video game online,
598
00:24:21,927 --> 00:24:24,296
They met throughsome video game online,
599
00:24:24,362 --> 00:24:26,565
but they ultimatelyfound out they went
600
00:24:26,631 --> 00:24:28,900
to the same high school as well.
601
00:24:28,967 --> 00:24:32,370
They were really a cute couple.She was very sweet.
602
00:24:28,967 --> 00:24:32,370
They were really a cute couple.She was very sweet.
603
00:24:32,437 --> 00:24:35,373
We loved her.She came to our family events.
604
00:24:32,437 --> 00:24:35,373
We loved her.She came to our family events.
605
00:24:36,775 --> 00:24:38,610
{\an8}CONCEPTION:
This discovery is telling.
606
00:24:38,677 --> 00:24:41,012
{\an8}It doesn't necessarily
607
00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:43,615
{\an8}incriminate Melanie, however,
it does connect her
608
00:24:43,682 --> 00:24:45,951
{\an8}with the relationship
to the family members
609
00:24:46,017 --> 00:24:47,118
{\an8}and the victim,
610
00:24:46,017 --> 00:24:47,118
{\an8}and the victim,
611
00:24:47,185 --> 00:24:49,454
{\an8}and could alsopossibly place her
612
00:24:49,521 --> 00:24:52,490
{\an8}in the houseat the time of the murder.
613
00:24:55,093 --> 00:24:57,863
{\an8}Detectives look
into the digital forensics
614
00:24:57,929 --> 00:25:01,933
{\an8}of James's computer in hopesof discovering more information
615
00:24:57,929 --> 00:25:01,933
{\an8}of James's computer in hopesof discovering more information
616
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,270
to give them a clueof what happened that night.
617
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,270
to give them a clueof what happened that night.
618
00:25:05,337 --> 00:25:07,572
SIEVERS:
Digital forensics playsa huge role
619
00:25:07,639 --> 00:25:09,674
in, essentially,any criminal investigation
620
00:25:09,741 --> 00:25:11,810
because they are digging
621
00:25:09,741 --> 00:25:11,810
because they are digging
622
00:25:11,877 --> 00:25:14,946
into your digital footprint,and any type of activity
623
00:25:15,013 --> 00:25:17,482
from your electronic devicescan really help provide
624
00:25:15,013 --> 00:25:17,482
from your electronic devicescan really help provide
625
00:25:17,549 --> 00:25:18,750
background information
626
00:25:18,817 --> 00:25:21,152
to investigators
that could then be
627
00:25:21,219 --> 00:25:22,787
supported
by the physical evidence
628
00:25:22,854 --> 00:25:24,789
recovered on scene or a body.
629
00:25:22,854 --> 00:25:24,789
recovered on scene or a body.
630
00:25:26,191 --> 00:25:28,827
Investigators discovera gaming chat between
631
00:25:28,894 --> 00:25:32,764
James and another userby the name of Hellraiser.
632
00:25:28,894 --> 00:25:32,764
James and another userby the name of Hellraiser.
633
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,034
Investigators are able
to determine
634
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,034
Investigators are able
to determine
635
00:25:36,101 --> 00:25:38,703
that Hellraiser
is actually Melanie.
636
00:25:41,239 --> 00:25:45,277
And their chat occurredbefore James's death.
637
00:25:45,343 --> 00:25:48,580
CONCEPTION:
Detectives learn throughthe messages that James actually
638
00:25:45,343 --> 00:25:48,580
CONCEPTION:
Detectives learn throughthe messages that James actually
639
00:25:48,647 --> 00:25:51,750
broke up with Melaniein a video game chat room.
640
00:25:53,218 --> 00:25:55,987
After James broke up with her,Melanie was distraught.
641
00:25:56,054 --> 00:25:58,623
She was angry.She was in denial.
642
00:25:58,690 --> 00:26:02,594
He also stated that he'd bewilling to talk to her as well.
643
00:25:58,690 --> 00:26:02,594
He also stated that he'd bewilling to talk to her as well.
644
00:26:03,862 --> 00:26:06,264
This is a huge break
for investigators.
645
00:26:03,862 --> 00:26:06,264
This is a huge break
for investigators.
646
00:26:07,666 --> 00:26:10,468
Now they got a suspectwith a motive.
647
00:26:10,535 --> 00:26:12,170
She was dumped.
648
00:26:10,535 --> 00:26:12,170
She was dumped.
649
00:26:12,237 --> 00:26:14,839
She was angry--"This was humiliating.
650
00:26:14,906 --> 00:26:16,341
This was embarrassing.
You hurt me."
651
00:26:17,475 --> 00:26:19,644
But based on her physicality,
652
00:26:19,711 --> 00:26:22,213
five foot in height,90 pounds in weight,
653
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,848
could she have killed James?
654
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,848
could she have killed James?
655
00:26:23,915 --> 00:26:26,985
{\an8}Could she have stabbed him
seven times?
656
00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:36,761
♪ ♪
657
00:26:37,796 --> 00:26:39,531
{\an8}Investigators now shift
their focus
658
00:26:37,796 --> 00:26:39,531
{\an8}Investigators now shift
their focus
659
00:26:39,597 --> 00:26:42,200
{\an8}to the victim's ex-girlfriend,
Melanie Eam.
660
00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:44,602
What was her relationshiplike with the victim?
661
00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:44,602
What was her relationshiplike with the victim?
662
00:26:44,669 --> 00:26:47,172
And most importantly,where is she at now?
663
00:26:48,206 --> 00:26:50,842
Detectives discovera great deal more about
664
00:26:48,206 --> 00:26:50,842
Detectives discovera great deal more about
665
00:26:50,909 --> 00:26:53,712
who Melanie Eam is
by interviewing
666
00:26:53,778 --> 00:26:55,747
James's friendsand family members.
667
00:27:08,059 --> 00:27:10,228
CONCEPTION:
Guy relays a storyto the detectives
668
00:27:08,059 --> 00:27:10,228
CONCEPTION:
Guy relays a storyto the detectives
669
00:27:10,295 --> 00:27:13,531
that Melanie Eam wasvery jealous of Jeff
670
00:27:13,598 --> 00:27:16,668
because Jeff isJames's best friend.
671
00:27:13,598 --> 00:27:16,668
because Jeff isJames's best friend.
672
00:27:16,735 --> 00:27:19,404
They had a great relationship,and they were pretty close.
673
00:27:19,471 --> 00:27:22,173
{\an8}They talked to Jeffa little bit more about Melanie.
674
00:27:19,471 --> 00:27:22,173
{\an8}They talked to Jeffa little bit more about Melanie.
675
00:27:49,934 --> 00:27:52,037
She showed no remorse,
which tells me
676
00:27:49,934 --> 00:27:52,037
She showed no remorse,
which tells me
677
00:27:52,103 --> 00:27:53,772
there is possibly a sociopath
678
00:27:53,838 --> 00:27:55,774
or psychopath tendencies.
679
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,877
These are major red flags,
and it is imperative
680
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,877
These are major red flags,
and it is imperative
681
00:27:58,943 --> 00:28:01,513
that detectives find Melanie
immediately.
682
00:28:06,317 --> 00:28:08,887
Investigators learn that Melanielives with her parents,
683
00:28:06,317 --> 00:28:08,887
Investigators learn that Melanielives with her parents,
684
00:28:08,953 --> 00:28:12,157
but upon arrival,they discover that she is gone.
685
00:28:13,191 --> 00:28:15,260
Her parents then relay
to the detectives
686
00:28:13,191 --> 00:28:15,260
Her parents then relay
to the detectives
687
00:28:15,326 --> 00:28:17,695
the events
which transpired that night.
688
00:28:18,797 --> 00:28:20,732
{\an8}SIEVERS: Investigators learnon November 16th,
689
00:28:18,797 --> 00:28:20,732
{\an8}SIEVERS: Investigators learnon November 16th,
690
00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:23,168
{\an8}Melanie was
in perfectly fine spirits,
691
00:28:23,234 --> 00:28:24,335
{\an8}her normal self,
692
00:28:24,402 --> 00:28:27,238
{\an8}until the late hoursof the night
693
00:28:24,402 --> 00:28:27,238
{\an8}until the late hoursof the night
694
00:28:27,305 --> 00:28:29,841
{\an8}when she grew distraughtand upset.
695
00:28:29,908 --> 00:28:32,243
However, her parentswere unsure of why.
696
00:28:29,908 --> 00:28:32,243
However, her parentswere unsure of why.
697
00:28:33,578 --> 00:28:36,081
Upon getting ready for their
late-night walk around 11:00,
698
00:28:36,147 --> 00:28:38,149
they asked if Melanie
wanted to go,
699
00:28:38,216 --> 00:28:40,952
she declined their offer
and they left without her.
700
00:28:41,019 --> 00:28:42,620
When they came back,
701
00:28:42,687 --> 00:28:47,792
Melanie had left the housein her father's white Toyota.
702
00:28:42,687 --> 00:28:47,792
Melanie had left the housein her father's white Toyota.
703
00:28:47,859 --> 00:28:52,297
Sometime after 1:00 a.m.Melanie returned home,
704
00:28:47,859 --> 00:28:52,297
Sometime after 1:00 a.m.Melanie returned home,
705
00:28:52,363 --> 00:28:55,166
banging on the door
and yelling to be let in.
706
00:28:55,233 --> 00:28:58,470
By the time her parents
got to the door to open it,
707
00:28:55,233 --> 00:28:58,470
By the time her parents
got to the door to open it,
708
00:28:58,536 --> 00:29:00,505
she had peeled out
of the driveway
709
00:29:00,572 --> 00:29:02,373
in the white Toyota and left.
710
00:29:00,572 --> 00:29:02,373
in the white Toyota and left.
711
00:29:03,408 --> 00:29:05,977
{\an8}Investigators were able
to obtain
712
00:29:06,044 --> 00:29:08,313
{\an8}video surveillance
from a neighbor of James,
713
00:29:06,044 --> 00:29:08,313
{\an8}video surveillance
from a neighbor of James,
714
00:29:08,379 --> 00:29:11,449
{\an8}which capturesMelanie speeding off
715
00:29:11,516 --> 00:29:14,853
{\an8}in the white Toyotaat 12:52 a.m.
716
00:29:11,516 --> 00:29:14,853
{\an8}in the white Toyotaat 12:52 a.m.
717
00:29:15,820 --> 00:29:17,522
{\an8}This proves that Melanie was
in the vicinity
718
00:29:17,589 --> 00:29:19,557
{\an8}at the time of the homicide.
719
00:29:19,624 --> 00:29:20,992
{\an8}We have her cell phone,which was recovered
720
00:29:19,624 --> 00:29:20,992
{\an8}We have her cell phone,which was recovered
721
00:29:21,059 --> 00:29:22,093
{\an8}at the crime scene.
722
00:29:24,129 --> 00:29:26,831
We have video footage of herleaving the crime scene
723
00:29:24,129 --> 00:29:26,831
We have video footage of herleaving the crime scene
724
00:29:26,898 --> 00:29:29,067
at the timethe 911 call was made.
725
00:29:30,068 --> 00:29:32,270
The evidence is piling up
against Melanie.
726
00:29:30,068 --> 00:29:32,270
The evidence is piling up
against Melanie.
727
00:29:33,438 --> 00:29:35,240
SIEVERS:
We know that she left
728
00:29:35,306 --> 00:29:36,641
her parents' home
729
00:29:36,708 --> 00:29:38,643
sometime after 11:00 p.m.
730
00:29:36,708 --> 00:29:38,643
sometime after 11:00 p.m.
731
00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:42,180
and did not return home
until after 01:00 a.m.
732
00:29:42,247 --> 00:29:43,548
She was in a frantic state
733
00:29:43,615 --> 00:29:46,151
and ended up
peeling out of the driveway.
734
00:29:43,615 --> 00:29:46,151
and ended up
peeling out of the driveway.
735
00:29:46,217 --> 00:29:48,319
We know that
736
00:29:48,386 --> 00:29:51,055
James was planningto break up with Melanie,
737
00:29:48,386 --> 00:29:51,055
James was planningto break up with Melanie,
738
00:29:51,122 --> 00:29:52,991
which aligns with a motive.
739
00:29:53,057 --> 00:29:56,794
But what detectives don't have
is physical, hard proof.
740
00:29:53,057 --> 00:29:56,794
But what detectives don't have
is physical, hard proof.
741
00:29:56,861 --> 00:29:58,897
It would be difficult
to obtain that proof
742
00:29:58,963 --> 00:30:00,832
without locating Melanie first.
743
00:30:00,899 --> 00:30:03,301
{\an8}Tonight, friends and family are
expressing their condolences.
744
00:30:00,899 --> 00:30:03,301
{\an8}Tonight, friends and family are
expressing their condolences.
745
00:30:03,368 --> 00:30:05,737
{\an8}We're told James Barry was
gentle and kind
746
00:30:05,803 --> 00:30:07,338
{\an8}and he'll be greatly missed.
747
00:30:07,405 --> 00:30:09,240
The search is still on
748
00:30:07,405 --> 00:30:09,240
The search is still on
749
00:30:09,307 --> 00:30:11,342
for a person of interest,Melanie Eam.
750
00:30:13,778 --> 00:30:16,681
SIEVERS:
With a potential dangerousmurderer on the loose,
751
00:30:13,778 --> 00:30:16,681
SIEVERS:
With a potential dangerousmurderer on the loose,
752
00:30:16,748 --> 00:30:18,483
and in an attempt
to locate Melanie,
753
00:30:18,550 --> 00:30:21,419
investigators start callingsome of the recent contacts
754
00:30:18,550 --> 00:30:21,419
investigators start callingsome of the recent contacts
755
00:30:21,486 --> 00:30:23,254
on her recent call log.
756
00:30:23,321 --> 00:30:24,923
CONCEPTION:
Law enforcement receivesa call back
757
00:30:24,989 --> 00:30:26,357
from Melanie's cousin.
758
00:30:24,989 --> 00:30:26,357
from Melanie's cousin.
759
00:30:26,424 --> 00:30:27,725
He tells investigators
that he resides
760
00:30:27,792 --> 00:30:30,595
in the state of Maryland
and Melanie is with him
761
00:30:30,662 --> 00:30:33,231
and that she arrivedat his place of residence
762
00:30:30,662 --> 00:30:33,231
and that she arrivedat his place of residence
763
00:30:33,298 --> 00:30:36,000
at approximately 2:00 a.m.that morning.
764
00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:39,070
The distance between
Loxahatchee, Florida
765
00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:39,070
The distance between
Loxahatchee, Florida
766
00:30:39,137 --> 00:30:41,272
{\an8}and Silver Spring, Maryland
767
00:30:41,339 --> 00:30:43,575
{\an8}is approximatelya thousand miles.
768
00:30:45,176 --> 00:30:47,545
{\an8}Palm Beach County Sheriff'sOffice requests assistance
769
00:30:47,612 --> 00:30:49,747
{\an8}from the local police department
770
00:30:49,814 --> 00:30:53,251
{\an8}up in Maryland to confirmMelanie's location.
771
00:30:49,814 --> 00:30:53,251
{\an8}up in Maryland to confirmMelanie's location.
772
00:30:53,318 --> 00:30:56,621
{\an8}OFFICER: Call them right now.
642, Robert, Robert, Charlie.
773
00:30:53,318 --> 00:30:56,621
{\an8}OFFICER: Call them right now.
642, Robert, Robert, Charlie.
774
00:30:56,688 --> 00:30:59,224
{\an8}White Toyota Corolla.
Investigation back to...
775
00:30:59,290 --> 00:31:02,560
{\an8}SIEVERS: Local authoritiesin Silver Spring, Maryland
776
00:30:59,290 --> 00:31:02,560
{\an8}SIEVERS: Local authoritiesin Silver Spring, Maryland
777
00:31:02,627 --> 00:31:04,229
{\an8}conduct a wellness check
778
00:31:04,295 --> 00:31:05,997
{\an8}on Melanie
at her cousin's house.
779
00:31:15,473 --> 00:31:16,541
{\an8}Thank you.
780
00:31:16,608 --> 00:31:18,276
Detectives feel that Melanie is
781
00:31:18,343 --> 00:31:20,211
a flight risk
for the simple fact
782
00:31:20,278 --> 00:31:21,813
that she fled
the state of Florida
783
00:31:21,879 --> 00:31:23,281
to Maryland.
784
00:31:23,348 --> 00:31:25,250
Investigators have to proceedwith caution.
785
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,436
Conducting a wellness check
on her shows more of a sense
786
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,436
Conducting a wellness check
on her shows more of a sense
787
00:31:45,503 --> 00:31:48,940
of care and concern for her
rather than letting her know
788
00:31:49,007 --> 00:31:50,375
she's a suspect.
789
00:31:49,007 --> 00:31:50,375
she's a suspect.
790
00:31:50,441 --> 00:31:51,943
It is importantfor investigators to know
791
00:31:52,010 --> 00:31:53,278
where her location is.
792
00:31:53,344 --> 00:31:56,114
They need to ensure
that she stays in that location.
793
00:32:26,944 --> 00:32:29,647
Local police also tow
and impound her car.
794
00:32:29,714 --> 00:32:31,816
{\an8}We know thatshe used that vehicle
795
00:32:31,883 --> 00:32:32,817
{\an8}essentially as her getaway car
796
00:32:31,883 --> 00:32:32,817
{\an8}essentially as her getaway car
797
00:32:32,884 --> 00:32:34,552
{\an8}to drive to Maryland.
798
00:32:34,619 --> 00:32:36,688
{\an8}So there's likely key piecesof evidence
799
00:32:36,754 --> 00:32:39,123
{\an8}from the crime scene
now in her vehicle.
800
00:32:36,754 --> 00:32:39,123
{\an8}from the crime scene
now in her vehicle.
801
00:32:41,659 --> 00:32:43,728
{\an8}After impounding Melanie's car,
802
00:32:43,795 --> 00:32:46,597
{\an8}investigators decideto process it
803
00:32:43,795 --> 00:32:46,597
{\an8}investigators decideto process it
804
00:32:46,664 --> 00:32:48,766
{\an8}in order
to discover latent bloodstains.
805
00:32:48,833 --> 00:32:51,836
{\an8}In order to do that,they utilize a chemical compound
806
00:32:48,833 --> 00:32:51,836
{\an8}In order to do that,they utilize a chemical compound
807
00:32:51,903 --> 00:32:53,571
{\an8}known as luminol.
808
00:32:53,638 --> 00:32:56,374
{\an8}Luminol reactsto the heme in blood
809
00:32:53,638 --> 00:32:56,374
{\an8}Luminol reactsto the heme in blood
810
00:32:56,441 --> 00:32:58,676
{\an8}to produce a chemiluminescentreaction,
811
00:32:58,743 --> 00:33:03,081
{\an8}or essentially, it allowsthe blood to glow in the dark.
812
00:32:58,743 --> 00:33:03,081
{\an8}or essentially, it allowsthe blood to glow in the dark.
813
00:33:03,147 --> 00:33:06,851
{\an8}And in the presence of blood,
it will react with a blue-like
814
00:33:06,918 --> 00:33:10,788
{\an8}luminescence that can be seenwith the naked eye.
815
00:33:06,918 --> 00:33:10,788
{\an8}luminescence that can be seenwith the naked eye.
816
00:33:13,991 --> 00:33:17,095
{\an8}They discover that there are
numerous areas inside
817
00:33:13,991 --> 00:33:17,095
{\an8}They discover that there are
numerous areas inside
818
00:33:17,161 --> 00:33:19,230
{\an8}and outside of the car.
819
00:33:19,297 --> 00:33:22,867
{\an8}That luminesce, suggestingthe presence of blood.
820
00:33:19,297 --> 00:33:22,867
{\an8}That luminesce, suggestingthe presence of blood.
821
00:33:22,934 --> 00:33:24,836
{\an8}The exterior driver door handle,
822
00:33:24,902 --> 00:33:26,904
{\an8}the entire driver door panel,
823
00:33:24,902 --> 00:33:26,904
{\an8}the entire driver door panel,
824
00:33:26,971 --> 00:33:30,041
{\an8}gear shifter, e-brake,all areas
825
00:33:30,108 --> 00:33:31,709
{\an8}you would touch as you get
826
00:33:31,776 --> 00:33:33,111
{\an8}in your car to drive.
827
00:33:31,776 --> 00:33:33,111
{\an8}in your car to drive.
828
00:33:33,177 --> 00:33:35,947
{\an8}The blood samples were collected
829
00:33:36,013 --> 00:33:38,583
{\an8}and sent off to the labfor a DNA analysis,
830
00:33:36,013 --> 00:33:38,583
{\an8}and sent off to the labfor a DNA analysis,
831
00:33:38,649 --> 00:33:40,585
{\an8}and those results came back
832
00:33:40,651 --> 00:33:43,221
{\an8}to the contributor beingJames Barry.
833
00:33:45,823 --> 00:33:47,592
This is a major break.
834
00:33:47,658 --> 00:33:50,928
They now have hard evidence,
and DNA is irrefutable.
835
00:33:47,658 --> 00:33:50,928
They now have hard evidence,
and DNA is irrefutable.
836
00:33:50,995 --> 00:33:53,564
The blood in the car,without a doubt,
837
00:33:53,631 --> 00:33:56,667
proves that Melanie was in thehouse when James was murdered.
838
00:33:53,631 --> 00:33:56,667
proves that Melanie was in thehouse when James was murdered.
839
00:33:56,734 --> 00:33:58,569
Now detectives need to get
840
00:33:58,636 --> 00:34:00,972
to the state of Maryland
to question her.
841
00:34:15,353 --> 00:34:17,789
{\an8}CONCEPTION:
After the confirmation
842
00:34:15,353 --> 00:34:17,789
{\an8}CONCEPTION:
After the confirmation
843
00:34:17,855 --> 00:34:20,291
{\an8}of James's DNA
inside Melanie's vehicle,
844
00:34:20,358 --> 00:34:24,228
{\an8}detectives face a new challenge,because Melanie crossed
845
00:34:20,358 --> 00:34:24,228
{\an8}detectives face a new challenge,because Melanie crossed
846
00:34:24,295 --> 00:34:27,331
{\an8}state lines by leaving Floridaand entering Maryland.
847
00:34:27,398 --> 00:34:30,334
Apprehending herbecomes more challenging
848
00:34:27,398 --> 00:34:30,334
Apprehending herbecomes more challenging
849
00:34:30,401 --> 00:34:33,037
due to different state laws.
850
00:34:33,104 --> 00:34:35,139
Since she is a flight risk,
detectives need to act fast.
851
00:34:33,104 --> 00:34:35,139
Since she is a flight risk,
detectives need to act fast.
852
00:34:35,206 --> 00:34:37,008
{\an8}SIEVERS:
A detective
853
00:34:37,074 --> 00:34:39,010
{\an8}from Palm Beach CountySheriff's Office traveled
854
00:34:39,076 --> 00:34:42,280
{\an8}to Maryland to speak
with Melanie in person.
855
00:34:39,076 --> 00:34:42,280
{\an8}to Maryland to speak
with Melanie in person.
856
00:34:42,346 --> 00:34:44,048
And during that interrogation,
857
00:34:44,115 --> 00:34:46,617
she then starts spillingwhat happened.
858
00:34:44,115 --> 00:34:46,617
she then starts spillingwhat happened.
859
00:35:02,066 --> 00:35:03,534
{\an8}DETECTIVE:
Okay.
860
00:35:05,169 --> 00:35:06,604
{\an8}MELANIE:
Yeah.
861
00:35:36,234 --> 00:35:40,771
She told investigators
that she went to James's house.
862
00:35:36,234 --> 00:35:40,771
She told investigators
that she went to James's house.
863
00:35:40,838 --> 00:35:42,773
They spoke in the kitchen
864
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,475
regarding the breakup.
865
00:35:57,855 --> 00:35:59,957
{\an8}DETECTIVE:
Okay.
866
00:35:57,855 --> 00:35:59,957
{\an8}DETECTIVE:
Okay.
867
00:36:10,735 --> 00:36:14,105
CONCEPTION:
The things she said,her demeanor, her behavior--
868
00:36:14,171 --> 00:36:16,641
it just showed that, like,
the life was out of her.
869
00:36:14,171 --> 00:36:16,641
it just showed that, like,
the life was out of her.
870
00:37:00,551 --> 00:37:02,320
Melanie confessed
to the murder of James Barry,
871
00:37:02,386 --> 00:37:04,689
and while doing so,
she showed no remorse.
872
00:37:02,386 --> 00:37:04,689
and while doing so,
she showed no remorse.
873
00:37:04,755 --> 00:37:06,557
{\an8}She also willingly surrendered
874
00:37:06,624 --> 00:37:08,559
{\an8}the clothes she worethe night of the murder.
875
00:37:08,626 --> 00:37:10,161
{\an8}And the subsequent analysis
876
00:37:10,227 --> 00:37:12,763
{\an8}of the shirt confirms
the presence of both
877
00:37:12,830 --> 00:37:14,832
{\an8}her and James's DNA.
878
00:37:14,899 --> 00:37:16,834
{\an8}SIEVERS:
The day after
879
00:37:14,899 --> 00:37:16,834
{\an8}SIEVERS:
The day after
880
00:37:16,901 --> 00:37:19,670
{\an8}her confession,
Melanie is extradited
881
00:37:19,737 --> 00:37:21,806
{\an8}from Maryland to Florida,where she is charged
882
00:37:21,872 --> 00:37:25,142
{\an8}with the second-degree murderof James Barry.
883
00:37:21,872 --> 00:37:25,142
{\an8}with the second-degree murderof James Barry.
884
00:37:25,209 --> 00:37:27,311
CONCEPTION:
They now know
885
00:37:27,378 --> 00:37:29,246
how James Barry
was brutally murdered.
886
00:37:27,378 --> 00:37:29,246
how James Barry
was brutally murdered.
887
00:37:31,549 --> 00:37:34,685
SIEVERS:
James is breaking upwith Melanie
888
00:37:31,549 --> 00:37:34,685
SIEVERS:
James is breaking upwith Melanie
889
00:37:34,752 --> 00:37:38,022
via video game chat thread.
890
00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:41,158
Angered,she drives her white Toyota
891
00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:41,158
Angered,she drives her white Toyota
892
00:37:41,225 --> 00:37:44,495
over to James's house,where she asks
893
00:37:44,562 --> 00:37:47,164
to speak with himout back of the home.
894
00:37:44,562 --> 00:37:47,164
to speak with himout back of the home.
895
00:37:47,231 --> 00:37:49,700
She sets her cell phone down.
896
00:37:49,767 --> 00:37:51,702
They go inside the house.
897
00:37:51,769 --> 00:37:54,171
They are arguing.James is making it clear
898
00:37:51,769 --> 00:37:54,171
They are arguing.James is making it clear
899
00:37:54,238 --> 00:37:56,207
that he is breaking up with her.
900
00:37:56,273 --> 00:37:59,810
She grows increasingly angry andgrabs a knife from the kitchen.
901
00:37:56,273 --> 00:37:59,810
She grows increasingly angry andgrabs a knife from the kitchen.
902
00:37:59,877 --> 00:38:02,046
She thencatches him by surprise,
903
00:38:02,113 --> 00:38:05,149
stabbing him in the abdomen,
904
00:38:02,113 --> 00:38:05,149
stabbing him in the abdomen,
905
00:38:05,216 --> 00:38:08,953
and delivers another stab woundwith an overhead swing
906
00:38:09,020 --> 00:38:10,788
just below the collarbone.
907
00:38:09,020 --> 00:38:10,788
just below the collarbone.
908
00:38:10,855 --> 00:38:12,289
CONCEPTION:
James then flees that area
909
00:38:12,356 --> 00:38:14,191
and runs through the hallway.
910
00:38:14,258 --> 00:38:16,394
Melanie pursues after him,continuing
911
00:38:14,258 --> 00:38:16,394
Melanie pursues after him,continuing
912
00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:18,362
to attack him as he's running.
913
00:38:18,429 --> 00:38:21,232
SIEVERS:
He then retreatsinto his bedroom to make contact
914
00:38:21,298 --> 00:38:24,268
with his friend Jeffto ask for help.
915
00:38:21,298 --> 00:38:24,268
with his friend Jeffto ask for help.
916
00:38:25,236 --> 00:38:29,340
Melanie drops the knifeand flees out the front door...
917
00:38:25,236 --> 00:38:29,340
Melanie drops the knifeand flees out the front door...
918
00:38:29,407 --> 00:38:32,843
and drives away.
919
00:38:32,910 --> 00:38:35,179
{\an8}NEWSMAN:
The 1,000-mile journey to bring
920
00:38:32,910 --> 00:38:35,179
{\an8}NEWSMAN:
The 1,000-mile journey to bring
921
00:38:35,246 --> 00:38:36,881
{\an8}Melanie Eam backto Palm Beach County
922
00:38:36,947 --> 00:38:38,816
{\an8}to face a judge is now underway.
923
00:38:38,883 --> 00:38:41,085
{\an8}The 20-year-old, chargedwith second-degree murder,
924
00:38:38,883 --> 00:38:41,085
{\an8}The 20-year-old, chargedwith second-degree murder,
925
00:38:41,152 --> 00:38:42,687
{\an8}is accused of killing
926
00:38:42,753 --> 00:38:44,255
{\an8}21-year-old James Barrylast month.
927
00:38:44,321 --> 00:38:45,956
She eventually turned up,
928
00:38:46,023 --> 00:38:48,359
and law enforcement arrested herin Maryland.
929
00:38:46,023 --> 00:38:48,359
and law enforcement arrested herin Maryland.
930
00:38:48,426 --> 00:38:50,795
NEWSWOMAN:
20-year-old Melanie Eamis facing several charges,
931
00:38:50,861 --> 00:38:52,797
including second-degree murder.
932
00:38:50,861 --> 00:38:52,797
including second-degree murder.
933
00:38:52,863 --> 00:38:55,566
She's accused of brutallystabbing to death
934
00:38:55,633 --> 00:38:59,036
her ex-boyfriend James Barryback in November of last year.
935
00:38:55,633 --> 00:38:59,036
her ex-boyfriend James Barryback in November of last year.
936
00:38:59,103 --> 00:39:00,705
NICOLA BARRY:
He loved life,
937
00:39:00,771 --> 00:39:03,941
he loved his family,
he loved his friends.
938
00:39:04,008 --> 00:39:06,043
JAMES BARRY SR.:
This is for our son.
939
00:39:04,008 --> 00:39:06,043
JAMES BARRY SR.:
This is for our son.
940
00:39:06,110 --> 00:39:09,447
This is for his justice, and
941
00:39:09,513 --> 00:39:11,182
that's what
we're all looking for.
942
00:39:09,513 --> 00:39:11,182
that's what
we're all looking for.
943
00:39:11,248 --> 00:39:13,250
And I do believe in my heart,
at the end of the day,
944
00:39:13,317 --> 00:39:15,219
that will be done.
945
00:39:17,755 --> 00:39:19,957
We find the defendant guilty
of second-degree murder.
946
00:39:20,024 --> 00:39:22,093
SIEVERS:
Melanie Eam is found guilty
947
00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:25,930
of second-degree murderfor the death of James Barry.
948
00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:25,930
of second-degree murderfor the death of James Barry.
949
00:39:25,996 --> 00:39:27,732
{\an8}JUDGE GLENN KELLEY:
What I've decided to do is
950
00:39:27,798 --> 00:39:29,934
{\an8}to impose, uh, a sentence
951
00:39:27,798 --> 00:39:29,934
{\an8}to impose, uh, a sentence
952
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,570
{\an8}of 50 years in the Department
of Corrections.
953
00:39:32,636 --> 00:39:34,472
{\an8}SIEVERS:
At the time of the murder,
954
00:39:32,636 --> 00:39:34,472
{\an8}SIEVERS:
At the time of the murder,
955
00:39:34,538 --> 00:39:36,974
{\an8}Melanie was 20 years old,
and now,
956
00:39:37,041 --> 00:39:39,910
{\an8}she's looking at a life
in prison with possible
957
00:39:39,977 --> 00:39:44,615
{\an8}release in 2066at the age of 70.
958
00:39:39,977 --> 00:39:44,615
{\an8}release in 2066at the age of 70.
959
00:39:44,682 --> 00:39:47,618
She's spending her entire
adult life behind bars
960
00:39:44,682 --> 00:39:47,618
She's spending her entire
adult life behind bars
961
00:39:47,685 --> 00:39:49,754
over a split-second decision
962
00:39:49,820 --> 00:39:52,356
based on anger over a breakup...
963
00:39:49,820 --> 00:39:52,356
based on anger over a breakup...
964
00:39:55,426 --> 00:39:57,928
...all while the victims
965
00:39:57,995 --> 00:40:00,931
are vicariously left behind
in pain over the death
966
00:39:57,995 --> 00:40:00,931
are vicariously left behind
in pain over the death
967
00:40:00,998 --> 00:40:05,636
of their son, loved one,friend, family member.
968
00:40:00,998 --> 00:40:05,636
of their son, loved one,friend, family member.
969
00:40:05,703 --> 00:40:08,506
{\an8}KELLY:
50 years?
970
00:40:08,572 --> 00:40:11,442
{\an8}That's a chunk of time. That's
her whole... her whole life.
971
00:40:08,572 --> 00:40:11,442
{\an8}That's a chunk of time. That's
her whole... her whole life.
972
00:40:11,509 --> 00:40:13,911
As far as a family goes,
and even Melanie,
973
00:40:13,978 --> 00:40:15,913
nobody wins, in this case.
974
00:40:15,980 --> 00:40:17,648
A young man is dead.
975
00:40:15,980 --> 00:40:17,648
A young man is dead.
976
00:40:17,715 --> 00:40:18,916
He had his whole life
ahead of him.
977
00:40:18,983 --> 00:40:22,253
And for me, it's tragic.
978
00:40:18,983 --> 00:40:22,253
And for me, it's tragic.
979
00:40:22,319 --> 00:40:23,788
SIEVERS:
This case really
980
00:40:23,854 --> 00:40:27,825
outlines as one of brutality,
981
00:40:27,892 --> 00:40:31,162
not only in the form
of the physical altercation
982
00:40:27,892 --> 00:40:31,162
not only in the form
of the physical altercation
983
00:40:31,228 --> 00:40:33,164
that happenedbetween Melanie and James,
984
00:40:33,230 --> 00:40:36,934
but also the detrimentof how young they were.
985
00:40:33,230 --> 00:40:36,934
but also the detrimentof how young they were.
986
00:40:38,169 --> 00:40:39,136
Life is not a game.
987
00:40:39,203 --> 00:40:41,605
Melanie can't reset her life.
988
00:40:39,203 --> 00:40:41,605
Melanie can't reset her life.
989
00:40:41,672 --> 00:40:43,474
This is the real world.
990
00:40:43,541 --> 00:40:47,211
She left a digital footprint,
which left a bloodstain.
991
00:40:43,541 --> 00:40:47,211
She left a digital footprint,
which left a bloodstain.
992
00:40:47,278 --> 00:40:50,815
And it took a life, a real life.
993
00:40:55,820 --> 00:40:58,756
{\an8}ALEXANDRA: I do wishI could go back in time
994
00:40:55,820 --> 00:40:58,756
{\an8}ALEXANDRA: I do wishI could go back in time
995
00:40:58,823 --> 00:41:00,191
{\an8}and gave James the biggest hug
that day,
996
00:41:00,257 --> 00:41:02,026
{\an8}and say,
"I'm sorry, and I love you."
997
00:41:02,092 --> 00:41:07,865
♪ Darkness crawls
like a shadow on the ground... ♪
998
00:41:02,092 --> 00:41:07,865
♪ Darkness crawls
like a shadow on the ground... ♪
999
00:41:07,932 --> 00:41:09,266
ALEXANDRA:
I would love
1000
00:41:09,333 --> 00:41:11,101
my brother to be remembered
1001
00:41:09,333 --> 00:41:11,101
my brother to be remembered
1002
00:41:11,168 --> 00:41:14,271
for the love
that he had for the world.
1003
00:41:14,338 --> 00:41:19,310
He would want me to be the lovethat he can't be anymore.
1004
00:41:14,338 --> 00:41:19,310
He would want me to be the lovethat he can't be anymore.
1005
00:41:20,644 --> 00:41:22,346
I don't like
the word "forgiveness."
1006
00:41:20,644 --> 00:41:22,346
I don't like
the word "forgiveness."
1007
00:41:22,413 --> 00:41:24,315
I'm not there yet.
1008
00:41:24,381 --> 00:41:25,382
I don't know if I ever will be.
1009
00:41:25,449 --> 00:41:29,553
♪ Can I keep holding? ♪
1010
00:41:25,449 --> 00:41:29,553
♪ Can I keep holding? ♪
1011
00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:32,523
ALEXANDRA:
I've come to peacewith the situation
1012
00:41:32,590 --> 00:41:35,259
because at the end of the day,
he did love her.
1013
00:41:32,590 --> 00:41:35,259
because at the end of the day,
he did love her.
1014
00:41:36,493 --> 00:41:38,162
Be careful of who you love
1015
00:41:38,229 --> 00:41:41,265
'cause it could
cost you your life.
1016
00:41:38,229 --> 00:41:41,265
'cause it could
cost you your life.
1017
00:41:41,332 --> 00:41:44,535
♪ If a new age ripens ♪
1018
00:41:44,602 --> 00:41:48,539
♪ Can I keep holding? ♪
1019
00:41:44,602 --> 00:41:48,539
♪ Can I keep holding? ♪
1020
00:41:48,606 --> 00:41:53,577
♪ When the moonlight crescents
is it worth the bear? ♪
1021
00:41:48,606 --> 00:41:53,577
♪ When the moonlight crescents
is it worth the bear? ♪
1022
00:41:55,446 --> 00:42:00,684
♪ Darkness crawls
like a shadow on the ground ♪
1023
00:41:55,446 --> 00:42:00,684
♪ Darkness crawls
like a shadow on the ground ♪
1024
00:42:01,986 --> 00:42:06,056
♪ Whispering,
"Ain't that funny now?" ♪
1025
00:42:01,986 --> 00:42:06,056
♪ Whispering,
"Ain't that funny now?" ♪
1026
00:42:08,025 --> 00:42:09,193
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