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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,602 --> 00:00:05,071 ("Won't Get Fooled Again" by The Who playing) 2 00:00:05,138 --> 00:00:09,342 NARRATOR: CSI: Miami, the global television phenomenon. 3 00:00:05,138 --> 00:00:09,342 NARRATOR: CSI: Miami, the global television phenomenon. 4 00:00:10,643 --> 00:00:13,913 In this series, we'll explore crime 5 00:00:10,643 --> 00:00:13,913 In this series, we'll explore crime 6 00:00:13,980 --> 00:00:15,482 through an entirely new lens. 7 00:00:15,548 --> 00:00:17,484 {\an8}DISPATCHER: Marlene Warren was just shot. 8 00:00:17,550 --> 00:00:20,086 NARRATOR: The investigations on this program are true. 9 00:00:17,550 --> 00:00:20,086 NARRATOR: The investigations on this program are true. 10 00:00:21,187 --> 00:00:24,124 Ride along with the real CSI experts. 11 00:00:21,187 --> 00:00:24,124 Ride along with the real CSI experts. 12 00:00:24,190 --> 00:00:27,327 VINCE WEINER: This was the most brutal homicide in over 25 years. 13 00:00:27,394 --> 00:00:29,028 CRUX CONCEPTION: Forensic science, 14 00:00:29,095 --> 00:00:30,630 it was the key witness. 15 00:00:29,095 --> 00:00:30,630 it was the key witness. 16 00:00:30,697 --> 00:00:32,432 NARRATOR: Talk to the real suspects. 17 00:00:32,499 --> 00:00:34,234 I didn't kill anybody, dude. 18 00:00:34,300 --> 00:00:36,569 NARRATOR: Hear from the real victims. 19 00:00:34,300 --> 00:00:36,569 NARRATOR: Hear from the real victims. 20 00:00:36,636 --> 00:00:38,938 I couldn't believe it. I'm in a state of shock. 21 00:00:39,005 --> 00:00:41,975 NARRATOR: And ultimately solve the case 22 00:00:42,041 --> 00:00:44,411 through the use of forensic science. 23 00:00:44,477 --> 00:00:47,280 We still have a homicide suspect somewhere out there. 24 00:00:47,347 --> 00:00:49,516 NARRATOR: This is... 25 00:00:47,347 --> 00:00:49,516 WOMAN: A murder... 26 00:00:47,347 --> 00:00:49,516 NARRATOR: This is... 27 00:00:47,347 --> 00:00:49,516 WOMAN: A murder... 28 00:00:49,582 --> 00:00:51,017 REPORTER: A disturbing story has come in... 29 00:00:49,582 --> 00:00:51,017 (overlapping voices) 30 00:01:19,946 --> 00:01:21,614 NEWSMAN: We start with breaking news... 31 00:01:21,681 --> 00:01:22,615 REPORTER: Palm Beach County Sheriff's deputies say 32 00:01:22,682 --> 00:01:24,150 they found the 21-year-old 33 00:01:22,682 --> 00:01:24,150 they found the 21-year-old 34 00:01:24,217 --> 00:01:26,352 with a knife wound to his chest. 35 00:01:26,419 --> 00:01:28,455 {\an8}Right now, detectives are trying to 36 00:01:28,521 --> 00:01:31,958 {\an8}track down what exactly happened here in this house 37 00:01:28,521 --> 00:01:31,958 {\an8}track down what exactly happened here in this house 38 00:01:32,025 --> 00:01:35,862 {\an8}that left one man dead and a community in shock. 39 00:01:35,929 --> 00:01:40,033 {\an8}On November 17, in 2016, 40 00:01:35,929 --> 00:01:40,033 {\an8}On November 17, in 2016, 41 00:01:40,099 --> 00:01:42,769 {\an8}I took a call for a homicide. 42 00:01:40,099 --> 00:01:42,769 {\an8}I took a call for a homicide. 43 00:01:42,836 --> 00:01:45,805 It was a death investigation. 44 00:01:50,443 --> 00:01:52,479 {\an8}And when I arrived on scene, 45 00:01:52,545 --> 00:01:56,316 {\an8}the boy's mom, her boyfriend, 46 00:01:52,545 --> 00:01:56,316 {\an8}the boy's mom, her boyfriend, 47 00:01:56,382 --> 00:01:59,185 {\an8}and a friend that was visiting, 48 00:01:59,252 --> 00:02:02,155 {\an8}all three of them outside. 49 00:01:59,252 --> 00:02:02,155 {\an8}all three of them outside. 50 00:02:02,222 --> 00:02:03,723 {\an8}I start on the outside, taking photos 51 00:02:03,790 --> 00:02:05,158 {\an8}of the scene, the location. 52 00:02:07,193 --> 00:02:12,031 {\an8}And then I work my way to the front door. 53 00:02:07,193 --> 00:02:12,031 {\an8}And then I work my way to the front door. 54 00:02:12,098 --> 00:02:14,267 {\an8}The front door was wide open. 55 00:02:16,202 --> 00:02:17,770 {\an8}My name is Crux Conception. 56 00:02:17,837 --> 00:02:20,206 {\an8}I'm a retired homicide detective 57 00:02:17,837 --> 00:02:20,206 {\an8}I'm a retired homicide detective 58 00:02:20,273 --> 00:02:21,374 {\an8}and criminal profiler. 59 00:02:23,943 --> 00:02:27,714 {\an8}There wasn't any signs of forced entry, 60 00:02:23,943 --> 00:02:27,714 {\an8}There wasn't any signs of forced entry, 61 00:02:27,780 --> 00:02:31,317 {\an8}which means the perpetrator had access to the home. 62 00:02:27,780 --> 00:02:31,317 {\an8}which means the perpetrator had access to the home. 63 00:02:34,587 --> 00:02:37,924 {\an8}KELLY: The minute I walk in the door... 64 00:02:34,587 --> 00:02:37,924 {\an8}KELLY: The minute I walk in the door... 65 00:02:37,991 --> 00:02:41,060 {\an8}the first thing I noticed 66 00:02:41,127 --> 00:02:43,496 {\an8}was a very neat house. 67 00:02:41,127 --> 00:02:43,496 {\an8}was a very neat house. 68 00:02:45,665 --> 00:02:47,267 {\an8}When I walked into the kitchen, 69 00:02:47,333 --> 00:02:51,538 {\an8}there was a knife on the counter. 70 00:02:47,333 --> 00:02:51,538 {\an8}there was a knife on the counter. 71 00:02:51,604 --> 00:02:53,540 {\an8}The blade was soaked. 72 00:02:53,606 --> 00:02:54,807 {\an8}It had blood on it. 73 00:02:53,606 --> 00:02:54,807 {\an8}It had blood on it. 74 00:02:58,378 --> 00:03:01,347 {\an8}And in a hallway, there was blood everywhere. 75 00:02:58,378 --> 00:03:01,347 {\an8}And in a hallway, there was blood everywhere. 76 00:03:05,418 --> 00:03:06,753 {\an8}There's also blood smears 77 00:03:05,418 --> 00:03:06,753 {\an8}There's also blood smears 78 00:03:06,819 --> 00:03:09,155 {\an8}on the floor and on the walls. 79 00:03:18,298 --> 00:03:20,567 {\an8}In the bedroom, 80 00:03:20,633 --> 00:03:24,137 {\an8}a young man was laying on the floor 81 00:03:20,633 --> 00:03:24,137 {\an8}a young man was laying on the floor 82 00:03:24,203 --> 00:03:27,073 {\an8}on his back. 83 00:03:27,140 --> 00:03:30,476 {\an8}There was blood all over his clothing. 84 00:03:27,140 --> 00:03:30,476 {\an8}There was blood all over his clothing. 85 00:03:30,543 --> 00:03:32,845 {\an8}A very bloody crime scene. 86 00:03:35,515 --> 00:03:37,450 {\an8}The bed, the mattress, the sheets 87 00:03:35,515 --> 00:03:37,450 {\an8}The bed, the mattress, the sheets 88 00:03:37,517 --> 00:03:38,818 {\an8}on the bed were blood-soaked. 89 00:03:39,686 --> 00:03:41,754 {\an8}HEIDI SIEVERS: It's evident that this was not 90 00:03:41,821 --> 00:03:44,724 {\an8}a stationary or static event. 91 00:03:41,821 --> 00:03:44,724 {\an8}a stationary or static event. 92 00:03:48,161 --> 00:03:49,495 {\an8}My name is Heidi Sievers, 93 00:03:49,562 --> 00:03:51,164 {\an8}and I'm a bloodstain pattern analyst. 94 00:03:56,235 --> 00:03:59,505 {\an8}The bloodletting event most likely happened in the kitchen 95 00:03:59,572 --> 00:04:02,875 {\an8}near the hallway, running to the decedent's bedroom. 96 00:03:59,572 --> 00:04:02,875 {\an8}near the hallway, running to the decedent's bedroom. 97 00:04:04,944 --> 00:04:07,480 Due to the fact that there are directional notations 98 00:04:04,944 --> 00:04:07,480 Due to the fact that there are directional notations 99 00:04:07,547 --> 00:04:09,782 in the blood, signifying 100 00:04:09,849 --> 00:04:11,284 it was moving in that direction, 101 00:04:11,351 --> 00:04:14,120 {\an8}but also the change in volume of blood. 102 00:04:11,351 --> 00:04:14,120 {\an8}but also the change in volume of blood. 103 00:04:14,187 --> 00:04:17,357 {\an8}That volume started to increase as the decedent 104 00:04:17,423 --> 00:04:18,725 {\an8}moved down the hallway. 105 00:04:17,423 --> 00:04:18,725 {\an8}moved down the hallway. 106 00:04:21,828 --> 00:04:24,998 {\an8}In the entranceway, there is blood droplets 107 00:04:21,828 --> 00:04:24,998 {\an8}In the entranceway, there is blood droplets 108 00:04:25,064 --> 00:04:28,134 {\an8}on the ceiling, which would indicate casting. 109 00:04:28,201 --> 00:04:29,402 {\an8}If you pull a bloody knife out of somebody, 110 00:04:29,469 --> 00:04:31,237 {\an8}the blood's going to fly off the knife handle, 111 00:04:29,469 --> 00:04:31,237 {\an8}the blood's going to fly off the knife handle, 112 00:04:31,304 --> 00:04:33,139 {\an8}and it's going to leave marks on the ceilings. 113 00:04:38,211 --> 00:04:39,979 {\an8}SIEVERS: The victim suffered seven distinct 114 00:04:40,046 --> 00:04:41,648 {\an8}sharp force trauma wounds. 115 00:04:43,583 --> 00:04:46,452 {\an8}I saw wounds on both hands. 116 00:04:47,220 --> 00:04:51,391 {\an8}On the thigh, an injury to the upper back, 117 00:04:47,220 --> 00:04:51,391 {\an8}On the thigh, an injury to the upper back, 118 00:04:51,457 --> 00:04:53,059 {\an8}and there was a noticeable wound 119 00:04:53,126 --> 00:04:54,627 {\an8}to his upper chest. 120 00:04:53,126 --> 00:04:54,627 {\an8}to his upper chest. 121 00:04:57,497 --> 00:04:59,932 {\an8}The stab wound that he had to the chest... 122 00:05:02,335 --> 00:05:04,837 {\an8}...it was non-survivable. 123 00:05:04,904 --> 00:05:06,839 It's possible he just didn't see it coming, 124 00:05:04,904 --> 00:05:06,839 It's possible he just didn't see it coming, 125 00:05:06,906 --> 00:05:08,408 or was caught totally off guard. 126 00:05:08,474 --> 00:05:10,510 I cannot imagine 127 00:05:10,576 --> 00:05:12,745 what was going through his mind. 128 00:05:10,576 --> 00:05:12,745 what was going through his mind. 129 00:05:13,980 --> 00:05:16,215 SIEVERS: Typically, when we're dealing with a stabbing, 130 00:05:16,282 --> 00:05:17,750 especially to this totality, 131 00:05:17,817 --> 00:05:20,486 you're dealing with something that is a personal attack. 132 00:05:17,817 --> 00:05:20,486 you're dealing with something that is a personal attack. 133 00:05:20,553 --> 00:05:23,222 {\an8}CONCEPTION: When we hear "crime of passion," 134 00:05:23,289 --> 00:05:25,124 {\an8}everyone thinks broken heart. 135 00:05:23,289 --> 00:05:25,124 {\an8}everyone thinks broken heart. 136 00:05:25,191 --> 00:05:27,393 {\an8}But passion is a psychological term. 137 00:05:27,460 --> 00:05:30,229 Not only does it suggest opportunity, 138 00:05:27,460 --> 00:05:30,229 Not only does it suggest opportunity, 139 00:05:30,296 --> 00:05:32,198 it also suggests rage. 140 00:05:33,299 --> 00:05:34,901 {\an8}Investigators collected 141 00:05:34,967 --> 00:05:36,202 {\an8}several pieces of evidence. 142 00:05:34,967 --> 00:05:36,202 {\an8}several pieces of evidence. 143 00:05:36,269 --> 00:05:37,904 One was the knife. 144 00:05:44,277 --> 00:05:46,746 It was a kitchen knife with a white handle 145 00:05:46,813 --> 00:05:48,881 and a blade approximately nine inches long. 146 00:05:46,813 --> 00:05:48,881 and a blade approximately nine inches long. 147 00:05:50,183 --> 00:05:52,685 {\an8}It coincides with the type of injuries 148 00:05:52,752 --> 00:05:54,353 {\an8}that the victim sustained. 149 00:05:52,752 --> 00:05:54,353 {\an8}that the victim sustained. 150 00:05:54,420 --> 00:05:57,457 KELLY: This is the handiest knife in a knife set. 151 00:05:57,523 --> 00:05:59,258 This is your sharp knife 152 00:05:59,325 --> 00:06:01,160 that you do all of your hard work with. 153 00:05:59,325 --> 00:06:01,160 that you do all of your hard work with. 154 00:06:02,295 --> 00:06:05,431 CONCEPTION: It was collected and then sent off to the lab 155 00:06:05,498 --> 00:06:09,102 for fingerprints and DNA analysis as well. 156 00:06:05,498 --> 00:06:09,102 for fingerprints and DNA analysis as well. 157 00:06:09,168 --> 00:06:11,571 The decedent on scene was identified 158 00:06:11,637 --> 00:06:14,674 by his mother as 21-year-old James Barry. 159 00:06:11,637 --> 00:06:14,674 by his mother as 21-year-old James Barry. 160 00:06:17,276 --> 00:06:20,913 {\an8}James Barry was my younger brother and only brother. 161 00:06:17,276 --> 00:06:20,913 {\an8}James Barry was my younger brother and only brother. 162 00:06:23,349 --> 00:06:26,152 Around 12:20 that night, 163 00:06:23,349 --> 00:06:26,152 Around 12:20 that night, 164 00:06:26,219 --> 00:06:29,355 I had a call from my father. 165 00:06:26,219 --> 00:06:29,355 (phone ringing) 166 00:06:29,422 --> 00:06:32,425 I will never forget the tone of my father's voice 167 00:06:29,422 --> 00:06:32,425 I will never forget the tone of my father's voice 168 00:06:32,492 --> 00:06:36,062 sharing with me that, "Someone murdered your brother." 169 00:06:32,492 --> 00:06:36,062 sharing with me that, "Someone murdered your brother." 170 00:06:38,097 --> 00:06:41,667 I collapsed crying and screaming on top of my lungs, 171 00:06:41,734 --> 00:06:43,903 saying this can't be true. 172 00:06:41,734 --> 00:06:43,903 saying this can't be true. 173 00:06:43,970 --> 00:06:46,973 And I was in complete disbelief. 174 00:06:47,039 --> 00:06:52,545 It was the absolute worst night of my life. 175 00:06:47,039 --> 00:06:52,545 It was the absolute worst night of my life. 176 00:06:56,015 --> 00:06:57,750 James and I were very close. 177 00:06:57,817 --> 00:07:00,286 Even though we had the seven-year age difference. 178 00:06:57,817 --> 00:07:00,286 Even though we had the seven-year age difference. 179 00:07:00,353 --> 00:07:03,689 I always made sure if anybody picked on my brother, 180 00:07:03,756 --> 00:07:05,725 they had to deal with me. 181 00:07:07,527 --> 00:07:08,895 He was a gamer. 182 00:07:08,961 --> 00:07:11,864 We were big into the Pokémon stuff. 183 00:07:11,931 --> 00:07:14,600 He loved video games. 184 00:07:11,931 --> 00:07:14,600 He loved video games. 185 00:07:14,667 --> 00:07:19,539 James made lots of friends through gaming. 186 00:07:14,667 --> 00:07:19,539 James made lots of friends through gaming. 187 00:07:19,605 --> 00:07:22,308 He was your perfect son, 188 00:07:22,375 --> 00:07:24,544 your perfect brother. 189 00:07:22,375 --> 00:07:24,544 your perfect brother. 190 00:07:24,610 --> 00:07:26,579 He didn't have a mean bone in him. 191 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,849 Everybody loved him. 192 00:07:29,916 --> 00:07:32,418 I can't think of a person that didn't like him. 193 00:07:29,916 --> 00:07:32,418 I can't think of a person that didn't like him. 194 00:07:32,485 --> 00:07:36,455 We're just shocked that it even happened. 195 00:07:32,485 --> 00:07:36,455 We're just shocked that it even happened. 196 00:07:43,729 --> 00:07:45,631 CONCEPTION: Detectives now focus 197 00:07:45,698 --> 00:07:46,732 on the three witnesses: 198 00:07:46,799 --> 00:07:49,669 Jeff, the victim's best friend, 199 00:07:46,799 --> 00:07:49,669 Jeff, the victim's best friend, 200 00:07:49,735 --> 00:07:51,704 James's mom, Nicola, 201 00:07:51,771 --> 00:07:55,208 and her boyfriend, Guy. 202 00:07:51,771 --> 00:07:55,208 and her boyfriend, Guy. 203 00:07:55,274 --> 00:07:58,377 All three witnesses claim that they were asleep, 204 00:07:58,444 --> 00:08:00,980 and didn't hear or see a thing during this incident. 205 00:07:58,444 --> 00:08:00,980 and didn't hear or see a thing during this incident. 206 00:08:02,415 --> 00:08:05,618 {\an8}Investigators document the presence of blood 207 00:08:05,685 --> 00:08:07,553 {\an8}on Jeff and Guy, 208 00:08:05,685 --> 00:08:07,553 {\an8}on Jeff and Guy, 209 00:08:07,620 --> 00:08:11,023 {\an8}all over their hands... 210 00:08:11,090 --> 00:08:12,024 {\an8}and on their clothing. 211 00:08:11,090 --> 00:08:12,024 {\an8}and on their clothing. 212 00:08:12,091 --> 00:08:14,193 {\an8}Those pieces of clothing 213 00:08:14,260 --> 00:08:15,261 {\an8}bearing bloodstains 214 00:08:15,328 --> 00:08:16,796 {\an8}were sent for DNA analysis. 215 00:08:18,631 --> 00:08:20,867 {\an8}In an investigation like this, where you have 216 00:08:20,933 --> 00:08:23,870 {\an8}potential witnesses or suspects on scene, 217 00:08:23,936 --> 00:08:25,204 {\an8}it is important for investigators 218 00:08:23,936 --> 00:08:25,204 {\an8}it is important for investigators 219 00:08:25,271 --> 00:08:28,007 {\an8}to interview each of them separately. 220 00:08:28,074 --> 00:08:31,210 {\an8}They first come to the decedent's mother, Nicola. 221 00:08:28,074 --> 00:08:31,210 {\an8}They first come to the decedent's mother, Nicola. 222 00:08:32,478 --> 00:08:35,214 {\an8}KELLY: I met with the boy's mom. 223 00:08:35,281 --> 00:08:37,917 She was obviously distraught and in a difficult place. 224 00:08:35,281 --> 00:08:37,917 She was obviously distraught and in a difficult place. 225 00:09:17,223 --> 00:09:20,226 Nicola informs the police that she wears 226 00:09:17,223 --> 00:09:20,226 Nicola informs the police that she wears 227 00:09:20,293 --> 00:09:24,497 earplugs while she sleeps because of Guy's loud snoring. 228 00:09:20,293 --> 00:09:24,497 earplugs while she sleeps because of Guy's loud snoring. 229 00:09:24,563 --> 00:09:26,966 So it makes sense that she could not hear the screaming 230 00:09:27,033 --> 00:09:28,501 and the noise during the attack. 231 00:09:44,884 --> 00:09:46,719 CONCEPTION: Nicola and James, 232 00:09:46,786 --> 00:09:48,654 by all accounts, they had a very, 233 00:09:46,786 --> 00:09:48,654 by all accounts, they had a very, 234 00:09:48,721 --> 00:09:51,490 very loving relationship. 235 00:09:51,557 --> 00:09:56,195 {\an8}It's rare where you would have a mother kill her adult son. 236 00:09:51,557 --> 00:09:56,195 {\an8}It's rare where you would have a mother kill her adult son. 237 00:09:56,262 --> 00:09:57,530 {\an8}More importantly, she also didn't have blood 238 00:09:57,596 --> 00:10:01,000 {\an8}on her hands like the other two did. 239 00:09:57,596 --> 00:10:01,000 {\an8}on her hands like the other two did. 240 00:10:01,067 --> 00:10:02,501 {\an8}Detectives do not believe 241 00:10:02,568 --> 00:10:04,236 {\an8}that Nicola is a suspect. 242 00:10:04,303 --> 00:10:09,208 {\an8}However, Guy and Jeff are both people of interest. 243 00:10:04,303 --> 00:10:09,208 {\an8}However, Guy and Jeff are both people of interest. 244 00:10:09,275 --> 00:10:12,078 {\an8}Both of them literally have blood on their hands. 245 00:10:09,275 --> 00:10:12,078 {\an8}Both of them literally have blood on their hands. 246 00:10:15,848 --> 00:10:17,283 {\an8}How did three people 247 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:19,552 {\an8}not hear a sound during this attack? 248 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:19,552 {\an8}not hear a sound during this attack? 249 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:25,691 Could they have truly slept through a violent murder, 250 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:25,691 Could they have truly slept through a violent murder, 251 00:10:25,758 --> 00:10:27,493 or is somebody lying? 252 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:29,528 Could one of these witnesses 253 00:10:29,595 --> 00:10:31,330 actually be the killer? 254 00:10:29,595 --> 00:10:31,330 actually be the killer? 255 00:10:38,904 --> 00:10:40,539 ♪ ♪ 256 00:10:42,508 --> 00:10:44,510 {\an8}REPORTER: Rosemarie Barry is struggling to cope 257 00:10:44,577 --> 00:10:47,079 {\an8}with the death of her grandson James. 258 00:10:47,146 --> 00:10:48,781 {\an8}She told me by phone she cries a lot. 259 00:10:47,146 --> 00:10:48,781 {\an8}She told me by phone she cries a lot. 260 00:10:48,848 --> 00:10:54,420 {\an8}ROSEMARIE: For me, a loving, gentle, beautiful young man. 261 00:10:48,848 --> 00:10:54,420 {\an8}ROSEMARIE: For me, a loving, gentle, beautiful young man. 262 00:10:54,487 --> 00:10:57,023 {\an8}REPORTER: The Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office says 263 00:10:57,089 --> 00:10:59,792 {\an8}someone stabbed the 21-year-old man in his home. 264 00:11:03,429 --> 00:11:06,265 {\an8}Upon reviewing the medical examiner's report, 265 00:11:03,429 --> 00:11:06,265 {\an8}Upon reviewing the medical examiner's report, 266 00:11:06,332 --> 00:11:10,503 {\an8}James suffered three wounds to his hands. 267 00:11:13,606 --> 00:11:14,740 {\an8}That's a defensive wound. 268 00:11:14,807 --> 00:11:16,742 {\an8}You're trying to fight off your attacker, 269 00:11:16,809 --> 00:11:19,045 {\an8}and in the process, you get struck. 270 00:11:16,809 --> 00:11:19,045 {\an8}and in the process, you get struck. 271 00:11:22,014 --> 00:11:25,518 {\an8}He had four actual stab wounds to the left side of his chest, 272 00:11:22,014 --> 00:11:25,518 {\an8}He had four actual stab wounds to the left side of his chest, 273 00:11:25,584 --> 00:11:29,622 {\an8}his abdomen, his back and his right thigh. 274 00:11:29,688 --> 00:11:30,923 {\an8}The stab wounds in his back 275 00:11:29,688 --> 00:11:30,923 {\an8}The stab wounds in his back 276 00:11:30,990 --> 00:11:33,092 {\an8}indicate that he was trying to run 277 00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:35,194 {\an8}and flee for his life. 278 00:11:37,329 --> 00:11:38,597 {\an8}SIEVERS: His cause of death 279 00:11:38,664 --> 00:11:40,166 {\an8}was attributed to a seven-inch 280 00:11:40,232 --> 00:11:41,767 {\an8}stab wound 281 00:11:41,834 --> 00:11:43,235 {\an8}to his left upper chest. 282 00:11:41,834 --> 00:11:43,235 {\an8}to his left upper chest. 283 00:11:48,340 --> 00:11:50,276 One question that arose during the investigation 284 00:11:50,342 --> 00:11:54,146 was how did no one in this house hear him screaming for help 285 00:11:50,342 --> 00:11:54,146 was how did no one in this house hear him screaming for help 286 00:11:54,213 --> 00:11:56,649 while he was being stabbed multiple times? 287 00:11:56,715 --> 00:11:59,952 {\an8}And a reason for that might be, per the autopsy report, 288 00:12:00,019 --> 00:12:02,955 {\an8}his chest cavity was full of blood, 289 00:12:00,019 --> 00:12:02,955 {\an8}his chest cavity was full of blood, 290 00:12:03,022 --> 00:12:06,492 {\an8}so he might not have had the physical ability to scream. 291 00:12:03,022 --> 00:12:06,492 {\an8}so he might not have had the physical ability to scream. 292 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,428 And when he did, he would have been pushing out blood 293 00:12:09,495 --> 00:12:11,397 from his mouth and even from his nose. 294 00:12:12,865 --> 00:12:14,667 {\an8}From the end of that hallway 295 00:12:14,733 --> 00:12:17,002 {\an8}all the way to his bedroom, he's trying to scream for help 296 00:12:17,069 --> 00:12:18,904 {\an8}and nobody can hear him. 297 00:12:17,069 --> 00:12:18,904 {\an8}and nobody can hear him. 298 00:12:18,971 --> 00:12:20,473 {\an8}KELLY: My first thought was, 299 00:12:20,539 --> 00:12:23,275 {\an8}it must have been a hell of a fight with a knife. 300 00:12:24,376 --> 00:12:25,678 {\an8}It must have been swift. 301 00:12:25,744 --> 00:12:28,781 {\an8}Who is the person that did this to this boy? 302 00:12:32,017 --> 00:12:34,420 Our first suspect is Jeff. 303 00:12:34,487 --> 00:12:36,689 He's 24 years of age. 304 00:12:34,487 --> 00:12:36,689 He's 24 years of age. 305 00:12:36,755 --> 00:12:38,657 He's also the best friend of our victim 306 00:12:38,724 --> 00:12:40,626 and present at the homicide. 307 00:12:40,693 --> 00:12:42,461 KELLY: Jeff is a gamer. 308 00:12:40,693 --> 00:12:42,461 KELLY: Jeff is a gamer. 309 00:12:42,528 --> 00:12:44,730 He used to frequent there a lot. 310 00:12:44,797 --> 00:12:46,732 Sometimes, would spend the night. 311 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:49,902 SIEVERS: The night of James's murder, 312 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:49,902 SIEVERS: The night of James's murder, 313 00:12:49,969 --> 00:12:52,505 he came over to play video games, hang out 314 00:12:52,571 --> 00:12:54,406 and essentially sleep over. 315 00:12:52,571 --> 00:12:54,406 and essentially sleep over. 316 00:12:56,942 --> 00:12:59,578 {\an8}He has the best opportunity 317 00:12:59,645 --> 00:13:01,347 {\an8}out of anyone to commit this crime 318 00:12:59,645 --> 00:13:01,347 {\an8}out of anyone to commit this crime 319 00:13:01,413 --> 00:13:04,550 {\an8}because he was actually in the victim's bedroom 320 00:13:04,617 --> 00:13:06,185 {\an8}at the time that it occurred. 321 00:13:04,617 --> 00:13:06,185 {\an8}at the time that it occurred. 322 00:13:06,252 --> 00:13:07,853 CONCEPTION: Investigators interviewed Jeff 323 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,423 to get his account of the events which had transpired that night. 324 00:13:50,029 --> 00:13:51,463 Although Jeff is distraught, 325 00:13:51,530 --> 00:13:54,600 this does not clear him from being a suspect. 326 00:13:51,530 --> 00:13:54,600 this does not clear him from being a suspect. 327 00:13:54,667 --> 00:13:56,235 {\an8}As a seasoned detective, you see people 328 00:13:56,302 --> 00:13:59,438 {\an8}putting on fake tears to throw us off the scent. 329 00:13:59,505 --> 00:14:02,641 The hard facts that investigators know is that Jeff 330 00:13:59,505 --> 00:14:02,641 The hard facts that investigators know is that Jeff 331 00:14:02,708 --> 00:14:06,712 was in the room where James died. 332 00:14:02,708 --> 00:14:06,712 was in the room where James died. 333 00:14:09,682 --> 00:14:11,417 James and Jeff, 334 00:14:11,483 --> 00:14:13,752 their social life consisted of gaming, 335 00:14:11,483 --> 00:14:13,752 their social life consisted of gaming, 336 00:14:13,819 --> 00:14:18,224 which is known to sometimes cause emotions, outbursts. 337 00:14:13,819 --> 00:14:18,224 which is known to sometimes cause emotions, outbursts. 338 00:14:19,525 --> 00:14:21,227 Lengthy exposure to violent video games 339 00:14:21,293 --> 00:14:24,230 might cause lack of empathy. 340 00:14:21,293 --> 00:14:24,230 might cause lack of empathy. 341 00:14:24,296 --> 00:14:26,432 It's important for the investigators to consider 342 00:14:26,498 --> 00:14:27,900 the gaming culture 343 00:14:27,967 --> 00:14:30,603 when looking at Jeff as a person of interest. 344 00:14:27,967 --> 00:14:30,603 when looking at Jeff as a person of interest. 345 00:14:30,669 --> 00:14:33,639 Could he have killed James? 346 00:14:33,706 --> 00:14:36,208 Let's compare the physicality of the people involved. 347 00:14:33,706 --> 00:14:36,208 Let's compare the physicality of the people involved. 348 00:14:37,710 --> 00:14:41,080 We have Jeff, who is six-one, 210 pounds. 349 00:14:41,146 --> 00:14:45,851 Then we have James, who is five-nine, 129 pounds. 350 00:14:41,146 --> 00:14:45,851 Then we have James, who is five-nine, 129 pounds. 351 00:14:45,918 --> 00:14:48,487 It's apparent that Jeff is 352 00:14:45,918 --> 00:14:48,487 It's apparent that Jeff is 353 00:14:48,554 --> 00:14:50,322 larger than James, 354 00:14:50,389 --> 00:14:54,793 and could possibly have the ability to overpower him. 355 00:14:50,389 --> 00:14:54,793 and could possibly have the ability to overpower him. 356 00:14:54,860 --> 00:14:56,061 Our first theory is... 357 00:14:57,830 --> 00:14:59,932 ...after dinner, James and Jeff 358 00:14:59,999 --> 00:15:03,769 go back to his bedroom to play video games. 359 00:14:59,999 --> 00:15:03,769 go back to his bedroom to play video games. 360 00:15:03,836 --> 00:15:05,337 They were in some type of competition 361 00:15:05,404 --> 00:15:08,374 or tournament together, and James beat Jeff. 362 00:15:05,404 --> 00:15:08,374 or tournament together, and James beat Jeff. 363 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,943 Something gets heated over the game, 364 00:15:11,010 --> 00:15:14,546 and that argument continues to boil. 365 00:15:11,010 --> 00:15:14,546 and that argument continues to boil. 366 00:15:14,613 --> 00:15:16,282 At some point, the boys 367 00:15:16,348 --> 00:15:17,816 make their way back out to the kitchen. 368 00:15:17,883 --> 00:15:20,686 Jeff just snapped. 369 00:15:17,883 --> 00:15:20,686 Jeff just snapped. 370 00:15:20,753 --> 00:15:24,023 He grabs a knife and stabs James. 371 00:15:24,089 --> 00:15:27,426 They make their way back into the bedroom. 372 00:15:27,493 --> 00:15:30,329 Jeff snaps out of it and realizes 373 00:15:27,493 --> 00:15:30,329 Jeff snaps out of it and realizes 374 00:15:30,396 --> 00:15:31,630 that he has to cover this up. 375 00:15:31,697 --> 00:15:32,831 Jeff opens the door 376 00:15:32,898 --> 00:15:35,200 in order to stage a break-in. 377 00:15:35,267 --> 00:15:37,469 He then pretends to frantically call for help 378 00:15:35,267 --> 00:15:37,469 He then pretends to frantically call for help 379 00:15:37,536 --> 00:15:39,805 from Guy and Nicola. 380 00:15:43,709 --> 00:15:47,780 {\an8}Blood evidence speaks when no one else can. 381 00:15:47,846 --> 00:15:50,149 {\an8}Jeff did have blood on his hands 382 00:15:47,846 --> 00:15:50,149 {\an8}Jeff did have blood on his hands 383 00:15:50,215 --> 00:15:51,350 {\an8}and on his clothing. 384 00:15:51,417 --> 00:15:53,218 {\an8}Investigators had to photograph 385 00:15:53,285 --> 00:15:56,922 {\an8}and analyze the type of bloodstains on him. 386 00:15:53,285 --> 00:15:56,922 {\an8}and analyze the type of bloodstains on him. 387 00:15:56,989 --> 00:15:59,058 {\an8}If he had been the perpetrator, we would likely 388 00:15:59,124 --> 00:16:04,330 {\an8}see bloodstains that have force behind them or spatter. 389 00:15:59,124 --> 00:16:04,330 {\an8}see bloodstains that have force behind them or spatter. 390 00:16:04,396 --> 00:16:06,565 {\an8}We would see stains on Jeff's clothing 391 00:16:04,396 --> 00:16:06,565 {\an8}We would see stains on Jeff's clothing 392 00:16:06,632 --> 00:16:09,702 {\an8}that match that of the walls within the home. 393 00:16:11,570 --> 00:16:13,272 {\an8}In examining 394 00:16:11,570 --> 00:16:13,272 {\an8}In examining 395 00:16:13,339 --> 00:16:14,606 {\an8}the photographs of Jeff, 396 00:16:14,673 --> 00:16:17,076 {\an8}all of the bloodstains on him 397 00:16:17,142 --> 00:16:22,214 {\an8}are forms of transfer patterns, or swipes and wipes. 398 00:16:17,142 --> 00:16:22,214 {\an8}are forms of transfer patterns, or swipes and wipes. 399 00:16:22,281 --> 00:16:24,049 So, if you had wet hands or bloody hands 400 00:16:24,116 --> 00:16:26,018 and you moved them across your clothing, 401 00:16:26,085 --> 00:16:28,420 which are all passive stains. 402 00:16:28,487 --> 00:16:30,089 That coincides with his statement 403 00:16:28,487 --> 00:16:30,089 That coincides with his statement 404 00:16:30,155 --> 00:16:33,892 of attempting to help James, try and render aid 405 00:16:33,959 --> 00:16:37,563 and stay with him until first responders got there. 406 00:16:33,959 --> 00:16:37,563 and stay with him until first responders got there. 407 00:16:37,629 --> 00:16:39,064 {\an8}The bloodstain patterns 408 00:16:39,131 --> 00:16:41,700 {\an8}were consistent with Jeff's account of that night, 409 00:16:41,767 --> 00:16:43,235 {\an8}which makes investigators believe 410 00:16:41,767 --> 00:16:43,235 {\an8}which makes investigators believe 411 00:16:43,302 --> 00:16:45,270 {\an8}that Jeff's no longer a suspect. 412 00:16:45,337 --> 00:16:48,374 Next, detectives need to interview Guy, 413 00:16:45,337 --> 00:16:48,374 Next, detectives need to interview Guy, 414 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,109 the mother's boyfriend. 415 00:16:50,175 --> 00:16:52,778 Since Guy is somewhat in a fatherly role 416 00:16:52,845 --> 00:16:55,114 as Nicola's boyfriend, 417 00:16:52,845 --> 00:16:55,114 as Nicola's boyfriend, 418 00:16:55,180 --> 00:16:58,117 is there any type of resentment from Guy to James 419 00:16:58,183 --> 00:16:59,651 or James to Guy? 420 00:17:01,887 --> 00:17:05,491 {\an8}ALEXANDRA: My mom had multiple miscarriages, so... 421 00:17:05,557 --> 00:17:07,593 {\an8}James was a miracle baby. 422 00:17:05,557 --> 00:17:07,593 {\an8}James was a miracle baby. 423 00:17:07,659 --> 00:17:11,330 It was nice not to be the only child anymore. 424 00:17:11,397 --> 00:17:14,066 Growing up, we had really good memories, 425 00:17:11,397 --> 00:17:14,066 Growing up, we had really good memories, 426 00:17:14,133 --> 00:17:15,968 you know, as a family. 427 00:17:16,034 --> 00:17:19,738 Before my parents divorced, James was seven or eight. 428 00:17:16,034 --> 00:17:19,738 Before my parents divorced, James was seven or eight. 429 00:17:19,805 --> 00:17:23,375 You know, it was tough on both of us. 430 00:17:23,442 --> 00:17:25,377 The relationship with Mom and Guy, 431 00:17:23,442 --> 00:17:25,377 The relationship with Mom and Guy, 432 00:17:25,444 --> 00:17:28,046 Guy moved in pretty quickly. 433 00:17:30,783 --> 00:17:34,019 My brother and I had a hard time accepting him at first. 434 00:17:35,954 --> 00:17:37,456 My brother and him 435 00:17:35,954 --> 00:17:37,456 My brother and him 436 00:17:37,523 --> 00:17:39,158 learned how to coexist, 437 00:17:39,224 --> 00:17:42,561 but it wasn't an easy thing. 438 00:17:39,224 --> 00:17:42,561 but it wasn't an easy thing. 439 00:17:43,962 --> 00:17:46,098 Eventually, we saw that he was gonna stick around, 440 00:17:46,165 --> 00:17:48,167 so we got to know him. 441 00:17:46,165 --> 00:17:48,167 so we got to know him. 442 00:17:48,233 --> 00:17:53,005 Until we figure out how that relationship actually was, 443 00:17:53,071 --> 00:17:56,775 if there was harmony or if there was chaos, 444 00:17:53,071 --> 00:17:56,775 if there was harmony or if there was chaos, 445 00:17:56,842 --> 00:17:58,777 then Guy is a suspect. 446 00:18:32,077 --> 00:18:35,781 KELLY: He'd explained to me how he was a butcher, 447 00:18:35,848 --> 00:18:36,849 and he said that of all the knives 448 00:18:35,848 --> 00:18:36,849 and he said that of all the knives 449 00:18:36,915 --> 00:18:38,951 that anybody could have grabbed, 450 00:18:39,017 --> 00:18:40,352 that was the sharpest knife in the house. 451 00:18:40,419 --> 00:18:43,188 {\an8}CONCEPTION: He also admits 452 00:18:40,419 --> 00:18:43,188 {\an8}CONCEPTION: He also admits 453 00:18:43,255 --> 00:18:44,857 {\an8}that it's the same knife 454 00:18:44,923 --> 00:18:47,226 {\an8}he used to carve the pot roast 455 00:18:47,292 --> 00:18:50,062 {\an8}for last evening's dinner. 456 00:18:47,292 --> 00:18:50,062 {\an8}for last evening's dinner. 457 00:18:54,867 --> 00:18:57,035 The next investigative theory is... 458 00:18:59,638 --> 00:19:02,908 ...around midnight, Guy can't fall asleep, 459 00:18:59,638 --> 00:19:02,908 ...around midnight, Guy can't fall asleep, 460 00:19:02,975 --> 00:19:05,444 so he gets up, James is still playing video games, 461 00:19:05,511 --> 00:19:07,379 but he decides to take a break, 462 00:19:05,511 --> 00:19:07,379 but he decides to take a break, 463 00:19:07,446 --> 00:19:08,714 and he goes to the kitchen. 464 00:19:08,780 --> 00:19:10,449 When he sees Guy, they exchange words. 465 00:19:10,516 --> 00:19:13,185 Guy goes into a fit of rage. 466 00:19:10,516 --> 00:19:13,185 Guy goes into a fit of rage. 467 00:19:13,252 --> 00:19:15,954 He grabs his chef knife. 468 00:19:16,021 --> 00:19:17,723 He stabs James. 469 00:19:17,789 --> 00:19:20,225 James then runs towards his bedroom 470 00:19:17,789 --> 00:19:20,225 James then runs towards his bedroom 471 00:19:20,292 --> 00:19:22,628 while Guy is still attacking him. 472 00:19:22,694 --> 00:19:26,431 James, surprising Jeff, collapses on his bed. 473 00:19:22,694 --> 00:19:26,431 James, surprising Jeff, collapses on his bed. 474 00:19:26,498 --> 00:19:32,471 Guy drops the knife and runs back to his room. 475 00:19:26,498 --> 00:19:32,471 Guy drops the knife and runs back to his room. 476 00:19:42,948 --> 00:19:45,050 He also admits that, 477 00:19:45,117 --> 00:19:47,419 after removing the knife, he washes his hands. 478 00:19:47,486 --> 00:19:50,522 Does that send a red flag? Yes. 479 00:19:47,486 --> 00:19:50,522 Does that send a red flag? Yes. 480 00:19:50,589 --> 00:19:52,224 No one else is washing their hands. 481 00:19:52,291 --> 00:19:54,927 From the time he picked up the knife 482 00:19:52,291 --> 00:19:54,927 From the time he picked up the knife 483 00:19:54,993 --> 00:19:56,194 to the time he washed his hands, 484 00:19:56,261 --> 00:19:58,931 Guy is literally tampering with evidence. 485 00:19:58,997 --> 00:20:01,934 I know most men, 58, are in a profession, 486 00:19:58,997 --> 00:20:01,934 I know most men, 58, are in a profession, 487 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,502 making a living for themselves. 488 00:20:03,569 --> 00:20:07,506 You have a 21-year-old living at home with mom. 489 00:20:03,569 --> 00:20:07,506 You have a 21-year-old living at home with mom. 490 00:20:07,573 --> 00:20:09,741 There could be some resentment there. 491 00:20:09,808 --> 00:20:12,344 That's a boiling point. 492 00:20:09,808 --> 00:20:12,344 That's a boiling point. 493 00:20:12,411 --> 00:20:15,080 Could Guy be the killer? 494 00:20:25,691 --> 00:20:27,726 ♪ ♪ 495 00:20:31,330 --> 00:20:33,498 {\an8}After reviewing Guy's stats and interview, 496 00:20:33,565 --> 00:20:36,902 {\an8}he could have a motive, and he also has the means. 497 00:20:33,565 --> 00:20:36,902 {\an8}he could have a motive, and he also has the means. 498 00:20:40,105 --> 00:20:42,374 {\an8}SIEVERS: Guy certainly has the strength 499 00:20:40,105 --> 00:20:42,374 {\an8}SIEVERS: Guy certainly has the strength 500 00:20:42,441 --> 00:20:44,876 {\an8}and the skills with a knife 501 00:20:44,943 --> 00:20:48,046 {\an8}to overpower and carry out an attack like this on James. 502 00:20:44,943 --> 00:20:48,046 {\an8}to overpower and carry out an attack like this on James. 503 00:20:53,285 --> 00:20:55,354 Looking at Guy as a person of interest, 504 00:20:55,420 --> 00:20:56,989 we need to think about, 505 00:20:57,055 --> 00:20:59,992 is there any evidence linking him to that scene? 506 00:20:57,055 --> 00:20:59,992 is there any evidence linking him to that scene? 507 00:21:00,058 --> 00:21:02,327 {\an8}Bloodstains on his clothing, as well as DNA 508 00:21:02,394 --> 00:21:05,163 {\an8}or fingerprints relating to the knife. 509 00:21:02,394 --> 00:21:05,163 {\an8}or fingerprints relating to the knife. 510 00:21:05,230 --> 00:21:07,032 {\an8}Is there any evidence that could help 511 00:21:07,099 --> 00:21:11,103 {\an8}establish Guy's innocence or guilt? 512 00:21:07,099 --> 00:21:11,103 {\an8}establish Guy's innocence or guilt? 513 00:21:13,138 --> 00:21:14,439 {\an8}CONCEPTION: Investigators 514 00:21:14,506 --> 00:21:16,842 {\an8}circle back to the body. 515 00:21:16,908 --> 00:21:19,611 {\an8}SIEVERS: It was theorized that the first wound was 516 00:21:16,908 --> 00:21:19,611 {\an8}SIEVERS: It was theorized that the first wound was 517 00:21:19,678 --> 00:21:21,480 {\an8}the stab wound to James's abdomen. 518 00:21:23,181 --> 00:21:25,217 {\an8}When we're looking at wound analysis, 519 00:21:25,283 --> 00:21:27,452 {\an8}typically, the wounds earlier on in the event 520 00:21:27,519 --> 00:21:30,455 {\an8}are going to be deeper and more severe... 521 00:21:27,519 --> 00:21:30,455 {\an8}are going to be deeper and more severe... 522 00:21:33,992 --> 00:21:36,161 ...because the assailant will have more energy. 523 00:21:33,992 --> 00:21:36,161 ...because the assailant will have more energy. 524 00:21:37,162 --> 00:21:39,931 As that event carries on, 525 00:21:39,998 --> 00:21:42,267 the assailant will grow more fatigued. 526 00:21:39,998 --> 00:21:42,267 the assailant will grow more fatigued. 527 00:21:42,334 --> 00:21:44,336 The stab wound in James's abdomen 528 00:21:44,403 --> 00:21:46,471 portrayed an upward directionality... 529 00:21:47,773 --> 00:21:49,775 ...suggesting we have someone lower, 530 00:21:49,841 --> 00:21:52,010 and their natural holding position would be 531 00:21:52,077 --> 00:21:53,512 in the area of his abdomen. 532 00:21:52,077 --> 00:21:53,512 in the area of his abdomen. 533 00:21:56,081 --> 00:21:59,518 We have the wound to the upper left chest 534 00:21:56,081 --> 00:21:59,518 We have the wound to the upper left chest 535 00:21:59,584 --> 00:22:01,086 where James was then bent over. 536 00:22:01,153 --> 00:22:02,621 And we now have switched 537 00:22:02,688 --> 00:22:07,225 to an overhand swing of that knife going downward 538 00:22:02,688 --> 00:22:07,225 to an overhand swing of that knife going downward 539 00:22:07,292 --> 00:22:09,094 as well as from left to right. 540 00:22:11,163 --> 00:22:13,598 {\an8}We also have a linear cast-off pattern 541 00:22:13,665 --> 00:22:15,267 {\an8}on the ceiling, 542 00:22:15,333 --> 00:22:19,738 {\an8}as well as the partial wall above James's bedroom door. 543 00:22:15,333 --> 00:22:19,738 {\an8}as well as the partial wall above James's bedroom door. 544 00:22:20,739 --> 00:22:22,674 {\an8}In order to create a pattern like that, 545 00:22:22,741 --> 00:22:24,176 {\an8}a suspect would have had to have been able 546 00:22:22,741 --> 00:22:24,176 {\an8}a suspect would have had to have been able 547 00:22:24,242 --> 00:22:27,479 {\an8}to freely swing that knife above their head. 548 00:22:27,546 --> 00:22:28,480 Someone with significant height 549 00:22:28,547 --> 00:22:29,648 would not be able 550 00:22:28,547 --> 00:22:29,648 would not be able 551 00:22:29,715 --> 00:22:31,983 to freely swing their arm up over their head 552 00:22:32,050 --> 00:22:33,752 to create a pattern like that. 553 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:37,456 {\an8}Based on not only the bloodstain patterns, 554 00:22:37,522 --> 00:22:40,592 {\an8}but also the wounds... 555 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,029 {\an8}...we can establish a relative height of our suspect. 556 00:22:44,996 --> 00:22:47,399 CONCEPTION: The perpetrator had to be shorter than James, 557 00:22:44,996 --> 00:22:47,399 CONCEPTION: The perpetrator had to be shorter than James, 558 00:22:47,466 --> 00:22:49,334 who was five-nine. 559 00:22:49,401 --> 00:22:52,537 So this is going to logistically rule out Guy and Jeff. 560 00:22:56,508 --> 00:22:58,844 ♪ ♪ 561 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,315 {\an8}Investigators received the results 562 00:23:03,381 --> 00:23:05,183 {\an8}from the forensic analysis 563 00:23:03,381 --> 00:23:05,183 {\an8}from the forensic analysis 564 00:23:05,250 --> 00:23:07,819 {\an8}for the evidence recovered at the crime scene. 565 00:23:10,055 --> 00:23:13,158 SIEVERS: The DNA analysis came back of the blood only belonging 566 00:23:10,055 --> 00:23:13,158 SIEVERS: The DNA analysis came back of the blood only belonging 567 00:23:13,225 --> 00:23:17,829 to James, and no fingerprints were recovered. 568 00:23:13,225 --> 00:23:17,829 to James, and no fingerprints were recovered. 569 00:23:17,896 --> 00:23:19,364 And that is likely due to the fact 570 00:23:19,431 --> 00:23:22,300 that the handle of that knife is heavily textured 571 00:23:22,367 --> 00:23:25,003 and corrugated, which is not a surface conducive 572 00:23:22,367 --> 00:23:25,003 and corrugated, which is not a surface conducive 573 00:23:25,070 --> 00:23:27,372 to leaving latent print residue. 574 00:23:27,439 --> 00:23:30,842 We don't have any suspect DNA, any foreign DNA, 575 00:23:27,439 --> 00:23:30,842 We don't have any suspect DNA, any foreign DNA, 576 00:23:30,909 --> 00:23:33,011 and we don't have any fingerprints 577 00:23:33,078 --> 00:23:34,513 to later compare to. 578 00:23:36,014 --> 00:23:38,784 Detectives are investigating a real, live whodunnit. 579 00:23:41,219 --> 00:23:44,356 {\an8}SIEVERS: As crime scene investigators search and process 580 00:23:44,422 --> 00:23:45,690 {\an8}the house, 581 00:23:45,757 --> 00:23:47,392 {\an8}they come across a cell phone 582 00:23:45,757 --> 00:23:47,392 {\an8}they come across a cell phone 583 00:23:47,459 --> 00:23:49,060 {\an8}just outside the back door 584 00:23:49,127 --> 00:23:51,163 {\an8}on the south side of the residence. 585 00:23:56,568 --> 00:23:59,971 CONCEPTION: It was a cell phone with a pink protective cover. 586 00:23:56,568 --> 00:23:59,971 CONCEPTION: It was a cell phone with a pink protective cover. 587 00:24:00,038 --> 00:24:01,139 {\an8}It does not belong 588 00:24:01,206 --> 00:24:03,642 {\an8}to any of the three individuals 589 00:24:03,708 --> 00:24:05,377 {\an8}in the house at the time of the attack 590 00:24:03,708 --> 00:24:05,377 {\an8}in the house at the time of the attack 591 00:24:05,443 --> 00:24:07,379 {\an8}or to the victim. 592 00:24:07,445 --> 00:24:09,748 {\an8}So, whose phone is this? 593 00:24:09,815 --> 00:24:13,919 SIEVERS: Investigators trace the phone and it comes back to belonging 594 00:24:09,815 --> 00:24:13,919 SIEVERS: Investigators trace the phone and it comes back to belonging 595 00:24:13,985 --> 00:24:16,454 to 20-year-old Melanie Eam. 596 00:24:19,090 --> 00:24:21,860 {\an8}Melanie was his first and only girlfriend. 597 00:24:21,927 --> 00:24:24,296 They met through some video game online, 598 00:24:21,927 --> 00:24:24,296 They met through some video game online, 599 00:24:24,362 --> 00:24:26,565 but they ultimately found out they went 600 00:24:26,631 --> 00:24:28,900 to the same high school as well. 601 00:24:28,967 --> 00:24:32,370 They were really a cute couple. She was very sweet. 602 00:24:28,967 --> 00:24:32,370 They were really a cute couple. She was very sweet. 603 00:24:32,437 --> 00:24:35,373 We loved her. She came to our family events. 604 00:24:32,437 --> 00:24:35,373 We loved her. She came to our family events. 605 00:24:36,775 --> 00:24:38,610 {\an8}CONCEPTION: This discovery is telling. 606 00:24:38,677 --> 00:24:41,012 {\an8}It doesn't necessarily 607 00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:43,615 {\an8}incriminate Melanie, however, it does connect her 608 00:24:43,682 --> 00:24:45,951 {\an8}with the relationship to the family members 609 00:24:46,017 --> 00:24:47,118 {\an8}and the victim, 610 00:24:46,017 --> 00:24:47,118 {\an8}and the victim, 611 00:24:47,185 --> 00:24:49,454 {\an8}and could also possibly place her 612 00:24:49,521 --> 00:24:52,490 {\an8}in the house at the time of the murder. 613 00:24:55,093 --> 00:24:57,863 {\an8}Detectives look into the digital forensics 614 00:24:57,929 --> 00:25:01,933 {\an8}of James's computer in hopes of discovering more information 615 00:24:57,929 --> 00:25:01,933 {\an8}of James's computer in hopes of discovering more information 616 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,270 to give them a clue of what happened that night. 617 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,270 to give them a clue of what happened that night. 618 00:25:05,337 --> 00:25:07,572 SIEVERS: Digital forensics plays a huge role 619 00:25:07,639 --> 00:25:09,674 in, essentially, any criminal investigation 620 00:25:09,741 --> 00:25:11,810 because they are digging 621 00:25:09,741 --> 00:25:11,810 because they are digging 622 00:25:11,877 --> 00:25:14,946 into your digital footprint, and any type of activity 623 00:25:15,013 --> 00:25:17,482 from your electronic devices can really help provide 624 00:25:15,013 --> 00:25:17,482 from your electronic devices can really help provide 625 00:25:17,549 --> 00:25:18,750 background information 626 00:25:18,817 --> 00:25:21,152 to investigators that could then be 627 00:25:21,219 --> 00:25:22,787 supported by the physical evidence 628 00:25:22,854 --> 00:25:24,789 recovered on scene or a body. 629 00:25:22,854 --> 00:25:24,789 recovered on scene or a body. 630 00:25:26,191 --> 00:25:28,827 Investigators discover a gaming chat between 631 00:25:28,894 --> 00:25:32,764 James and another user by the name of Hellraiser. 632 00:25:28,894 --> 00:25:32,764 James and another user by the name of Hellraiser. 633 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,034 Investigators are able to determine 634 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,034 Investigators are able to determine 635 00:25:36,101 --> 00:25:38,703 that Hellraiser is actually Melanie. 636 00:25:41,239 --> 00:25:45,277 And their chat occurred before James's death. 637 00:25:45,343 --> 00:25:48,580 CONCEPTION: Detectives learn through the messages that James actually 638 00:25:45,343 --> 00:25:48,580 CONCEPTION: Detectives learn through the messages that James actually 639 00:25:48,647 --> 00:25:51,750 broke up with Melanie in a video game chat room. 640 00:25:53,218 --> 00:25:55,987 After James broke up with her, Melanie was distraught. 641 00:25:56,054 --> 00:25:58,623 She was angry. She was in denial. 642 00:25:58,690 --> 00:26:02,594 He also stated that he'd be willing to talk to her as well. 643 00:25:58,690 --> 00:26:02,594 He also stated that he'd be willing to talk to her as well. 644 00:26:03,862 --> 00:26:06,264 This is a huge break for investigators. 645 00:26:03,862 --> 00:26:06,264 This is a huge break for investigators. 646 00:26:07,666 --> 00:26:10,468 Now they got a suspect with a motive. 647 00:26:10,535 --> 00:26:12,170 She was dumped. 648 00:26:10,535 --> 00:26:12,170 She was dumped. 649 00:26:12,237 --> 00:26:14,839 She was angry-- "This was humiliating. 650 00:26:14,906 --> 00:26:16,341 This was embarrassing. You hurt me." 651 00:26:17,475 --> 00:26:19,644 But based on her physicality, 652 00:26:19,711 --> 00:26:22,213 five foot in height, 90 pounds in weight, 653 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,848 could she have killed James? 654 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,848 could she have killed James? 655 00:26:23,915 --> 00:26:26,985 {\an8}Could she have stabbed him seven times? 656 00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:36,761 ♪ ♪ 657 00:26:37,796 --> 00:26:39,531 {\an8}Investigators now shift their focus 658 00:26:37,796 --> 00:26:39,531 {\an8}Investigators now shift their focus 659 00:26:39,597 --> 00:26:42,200 {\an8}to the victim's ex-girlfriend, Melanie Eam. 660 00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:44,602 What was her relationship like with the victim? 661 00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:44,602 What was her relationship like with the victim? 662 00:26:44,669 --> 00:26:47,172 And most importantly, where is she at now? 663 00:26:48,206 --> 00:26:50,842 Detectives discover a great deal more about 664 00:26:48,206 --> 00:26:50,842 Detectives discover a great deal more about 665 00:26:50,909 --> 00:26:53,712 who Melanie Eam is by interviewing 666 00:26:53,778 --> 00:26:55,747 James's friends and family members. 667 00:27:08,059 --> 00:27:10,228 CONCEPTION: Guy relays a story to the detectives 668 00:27:08,059 --> 00:27:10,228 CONCEPTION: Guy relays a story to the detectives 669 00:27:10,295 --> 00:27:13,531 that Melanie Eam was very jealous of Jeff 670 00:27:13,598 --> 00:27:16,668 because Jeff is James's best friend. 671 00:27:13,598 --> 00:27:16,668 because Jeff is James's best friend. 672 00:27:16,735 --> 00:27:19,404 They had a great relationship, and they were pretty close. 673 00:27:19,471 --> 00:27:22,173 {\an8}They talked to Jeff a little bit more about Melanie. 674 00:27:19,471 --> 00:27:22,173 {\an8}They talked to Jeff a little bit more about Melanie. 675 00:27:49,934 --> 00:27:52,037 She showed no remorse, which tells me 676 00:27:49,934 --> 00:27:52,037 She showed no remorse, which tells me 677 00:27:52,103 --> 00:27:53,772 there is possibly a sociopath 678 00:27:53,838 --> 00:27:55,774 or psychopath tendencies. 679 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,877 These are major red flags, and it is imperative 680 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,877 These are major red flags, and it is imperative 681 00:27:58,943 --> 00:28:01,513 that detectives find Melanie immediately. 682 00:28:06,317 --> 00:28:08,887 Investigators learn that Melanie lives with her parents, 683 00:28:06,317 --> 00:28:08,887 Investigators learn that Melanie lives with her parents, 684 00:28:08,953 --> 00:28:12,157 but upon arrival, they discover that she is gone. 685 00:28:13,191 --> 00:28:15,260 Her parents then relay to the detectives 686 00:28:13,191 --> 00:28:15,260 Her parents then relay to the detectives 687 00:28:15,326 --> 00:28:17,695 the events which transpired that night. 688 00:28:18,797 --> 00:28:20,732 {\an8}SIEVERS: Investigators learn on November 16th, 689 00:28:18,797 --> 00:28:20,732 {\an8}SIEVERS: Investigators learn on November 16th, 690 00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:23,168 {\an8}Melanie was in perfectly fine spirits, 691 00:28:23,234 --> 00:28:24,335 {\an8}her normal self, 692 00:28:24,402 --> 00:28:27,238 {\an8}until the late hours of the night 693 00:28:24,402 --> 00:28:27,238 {\an8}until the late hours of the night 694 00:28:27,305 --> 00:28:29,841 {\an8}when she grew distraught and upset. 695 00:28:29,908 --> 00:28:32,243 However, her parents were unsure of why. 696 00:28:29,908 --> 00:28:32,243 However, her parents were unsure of why. 697 00:28:33,578 --> 00:28:36,081 Upon getting ready for their late-night walk around 11:00, 698 00:28:36,147 --> 00:28:38,149 they asked if Melanie wanted to go, 699 00:28:38,216 --> 00:28:40,952 she declined their offer and they left without her. 700 00:28:41,019 --> 00:28:42,620 When they came back, 701 00:28:42,687 --> 00:28:47,792 Melanie had left the house in her father's white Toyota. 702 00:28:42,687 --> 00:28:47,792 Melanie had left the house in her father's white Toyota. 703 00:28:47,859 --> 00:28:52,297 Sometime after 1:00 a.m. Melanie returned home, 704 00:28:47,859 --> 00:28:52,297 Sometime after 1:00 a.m. Melanie returned home, 705 00:28:52,363 --> 00:28:55,166 banging on the door and yelling to be let in. 706 00:28:55,233 --> 00:28:58,470 By the time her parents got to the door to open it, 707 00:28:55,233 --> 00:28:58,470 By the time her parents got to the door to open it, 708 00:28:58,536 --> 00:29:00,505 she had peeled out of the driveway 709 00:29:00,572 --> 00:29:02,373 in the white Toyota and left. 710 00:29:00,572 --> 00:29:02,373 in the white Toyota and left. 711 00:29:03,408 --> 00:29:05,977 {\an8}Investigators were able to obtain 712 00:29:06,044 --> 00:29:08,313 {\an8}video surveillance from a neighbor of James, 713 00:29:06,044 --> 00:29:08,313 {\an8}video surveillance from a neighbor of James, 714 00:29:08,379 --> 00:29:11,449 {\an8}which captures Melanie speeding off 715 00:29:11,516 --> 00:29:14,853 {\an8}in the white Toyota at 12:52 a.m. 716 00:29:11,516 --> 00:29:14,853 {\an8}in the white Toyota at 12:52 a.m. 717 00:29:15,820 --> 00:29:17,522 {\an8}This proves that Melanie was in the vicinity 718 00:29:17,589 --> 00:29:19,557 {\an8}at the time of the homicide. 719 00:29:19,624 --> 00:29:20,992 {\an8}We have her cell phone, which was recovered 720 00:29:19,624 --> 00:29:20,992 {\an8}We have her cell phone, which was recovered 721 00:29:21,059 --> 00:29:22,093 {\an8}at the crime scene. 722 00:29:24,129 --> 00:29:26,831 We have video footage of her leaving the crime scene 723 00:29:24,129 --> 00:29:26,831 We have video footage of her leaving the crime scene 724 00:29:26,898 --> 00:29:29,067 at the time the 911 call was made. 725 00:29:30,068 --> 00:29:32,270 The evidence is piling up against Melanie. 726 00:29:30,068 --> 00:29:32,270 The evidence is piling up against Melanie. 727 00:29:33,438 --> 00:29:35,240 SIEVERS: We know that she left 728 00:29:35,306 --> 00:29:36,641 her parents' home 729 00:29:36,708 --> 00:29:38,643 sometime after 11:00 p.m. 730 00:29:36,708 --> 00:29:38,643 sometime after 11:00 p.m. 731 00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:42,180 and did not return home until after 01:00 a.m. 732 00:29:42,247 --> 00:29:43,548 She was in a frantic state 733 00:29:43,615 --> 00:29:46,151 and ended up peeling out of the driveway. 734 00:29:43,615 --> 00:29:46,151 and ended up peeling out of the driveway. 735 00:29:46,217 --> 00:29:48,319 We know that 736 00:29:48,386 --> 00:29:51,055 James was planning to break up with Melanie, 737 00:29:48,386 --> 00:29:51,055 James was planning to break up with Melanie, 738 00:29:51,122 --> 00:29:52,991 which aligns with a motive. 739 00:29:53,057 --> 00:29:56,794 But what detectives don't have is physical, hard proof. 740 00:29:53,057 --> 00:29:56,794 But what detectives don't have is physical, hard proof. 741 00:29:56,861 --> 00:29:58,897 It would be difficult to obtain that proof 742 00:29:58,963 --> 00:30:00,832 without locating Melanie first. 743 00:30:00,899 --> 00:30:03,301 {\an8}Tonight, friends and family are expressing their condolences. 744 00:30:00,899 --> 00:30:03,301 {\an8}Tonight, friends and family are expressing their condolences. 745 00:30:03,368 --> 00:30:05,737 {\an8}We're told James Barry was gentle and kind 746 00:30:05,803 --> 00:30:07,338 {\an8}and he'll be greatly missed. 747 00:30:07,405 --> 00:30:09,240 The search is still on 748 00:30:07,405 --> 00:30:09,240 The search is still on 749 00:30:09,307 --> 00:30:11,342 for a person of interest, Melanie Eam. 750 00:30:13,778 --> 00:30:16,681 SIEVERS: With a potential dangerous murderer on the loose, 751 00:30:13,778 --> 00:30:16,681 SIEVERS: With a potential dangerous murderer on the loose, 752 00:30:16,748 --> 00:30:18,483 and in an attempt to locate Melanie, 753 00:30:18,550 --> 00:30:21,419 investigators start calling some of the recent contacts 754 00:30:18,550 --> 00:30:21,419 investigators start calling some of the recent contacts 755 00:30:21,486 --> 00:30:23,254 on her recent call log. 756 00:30:23,321 --> 00:30:24,923 CONCEPTION: Law enforcement receives a call back 757 00:30:24,989 --> 00:30:26,357 from Melanie's cousin. 758 00:30:24,989 --> 00:30:26,357 from Melanie's cousin. 759 00:30:26,424 --> 00:30:27,725 He tells investigators that he resides 760 00:30:27,792 --> 00:30:30,595 in the state of Maryland and Melanie is with him 761 00:30:30,662 --> 00:30:33,231 and that she arrived at his place of residence 762 00:30:30,662 --> 00:30:33,231 and that she arrived at his place of residence 763 00:30:33,298 --> 00:30:36,000 at approximately 2:00 a.m. that morning. 764 00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:39,070 The distance between Loxahatchee, Florida 765 00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:39,070 The distance between Loxahatchee, Florida 766 00:30:39,137 --> 00:30:41,272 {\an8}and Silver Spring, Maryland 767 00:30:41,339 --> 00:30:43,575 {\an8}is approximately a thousand miles. 768 00:30:45,176 --> 00:30:47,545 {\an8}Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office requests assistance 769 00:30:47,612 --> 00:30:49,747 {\an8}from the local police department 770 00:30:49,814 --> 00:30:53,251 {\an8}up in Maryland to confirm Melanie's location. 771 00:30:49,814 --> 00:30:53,251 {\an8}up in Maryland to confirm Melanie's location. 772 00:30:53,318 --> 00:30:56,621 {\an8}OFFICER: Call them right now. 642, Robert, Robert, Charlie. 773 00:30:53,318 --> 00:30:56,621 {\an8}OFFICER: Call them right now. 642, Robert, Robert, Charlie. 774 00:30:56,688 --> 00:30:59,224 {\an8}White Toyota Corolla. Investigation back to... 775 00:30:59,290 --> 00:31:02,560 {\an8}SIEVERS: Local authorities in Silver Spring, Maryland 776 00:30:59,290 --> 00:31:02,560 {\an8}SIEVERS: Local authorities in Silver Spring, Maryland 777 00:31:02,627 --> 00:31:04,229 {\an8}conduct a wellness check 778 00:31:04,295 --> 00:31:05,997 {\an8}on Melanie at her cousin's house. 779 00:31:15,473 --> 00:31:16,541 {\an8}Thank you. 780 00:31:16,608 --> 00:31:18,276 Detectives feel that Melanie is 781 00:31:18,343 --> 00:31:20,211 a flight risk for the simple fact 782 00:31:20,278 --> 00:31:21,813 that she fled the state of Florida 783 00:31:21,879 --> 00:31:23,281 to Maryland. 784 00:31:23,348 --> 00:31:25,250 Investigators have to proceed with caution. 785 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,436 Conducting a wellness check on her shows more of a sense 786 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,436 Conducting a wellness check on her shows more of a sense 787 00:31:45,503 --> 00:31:48,940 of care and concern for her rather than letting her know 788 00:31:49,007 --> 00:31:50,375 she's a suspect. 789 00:31:49,007 --> 00:31:50,375 she's a suspect. 790 00:31:50,441 --> 00:31:51,943 It is important for investigators to know 791 00:31:52,010 --> 00:31:53,278 where her location is. 792 00:31:53,344 --> 00:31:56,114 They need to ensure that she stays in that location. 793 00:32:26,944 --> 00:32:29,647 Local police also tow and impound her car. 794 00:32:29,714 --> 00:32:31,816 {\an8}We know that she used that vehicle 795 00:32:31,883 --> 00:32:32,817 {\an8}essentially as her getaway car 796 00:32:31,883 --> 00:32:32,817 {\an8}essentially as her getaway car 797 00:32:32,884 --> 00:32:34,552 {\an8}to drive to Maryland. 798 00:32:34,619 --> 00:32:36,688 {\an8}So there's likely key pieces of evidence 799 00:32:36,754 --> 00:32:39,123 {\an8}from the crime scene now in her vehicle. 800 00:32:36,754 --> 00:32:39,123 {\an8}from the crime scene now in her vehicle. 801 00:32:41,659 --> 00:32:43,728 {\an8}After impounding Melanie's car, 802 00:32:43,795 --> 00:32:46,597 {\an8}investigators decide to process it 803 00:32:43,795 --> 00:32:46,597 {\an8}investigators decide to process it 804 00:32:46,664 --> 00:32:48,766 {\an8}in order to discover latent bloodstains. 805 00:32:48,833 --> 00:32:51,836 {\an8}In order to do that, they utilize a chemical compound 806 00:32:48,833 --> 00:32:51,836 {\an8}In order to do that, they utilize a chemical compound 807 00:32:51,903 --> 00:32:53,571 {\an8}known as luminol. 808 00:32:53,638 --> 00:32:56,374 {\an8}Luminol reacts to the heme in blood 809 00:32:53,638 --> 00:32:56,374 {\an8}Luminol reacts to the heme in blood 810 00:32:56,441 --> 00:32:58,676 {\an8}to produce a chemiluminescent reaction, 811 00:32:58,743 --> 00:33:03,081 {\an8}or essentially, it allows the blood to glow in the dark. 812 00:32:58,743 --> 00:33:03,081 {\an8}or essentially, it allows the blood to glow in the dark. 813 00:33:03,147 --> 00:33:06,851 {\an8}And in the presence of blood, it will react with a blue-like 814 00:33:06,918 --> 00:33:10,788 {\an8}luminescence that can be seen with the naked eye. 815 00:33:06,918 --> 00:33:10,788 {\an8}luminescence that can be seen with the naked eye. 816 00:33:13,991 --> 00:33:17,095 {\an8}They discover that there are numerous areas inside 817 00:33:13,991 --> 00:33:17,095 {\an8}They discover that there are numerous areas inside 818 00:33:17,161 --> 00:33:19,230 {\an8}and outside of the car. 819 00:33:19,297 --> 00:33:22,867 {\an8}That luminesce, suggesting the presence of blood. 820 00:33:19,297 --> 00:33:22,867 {\an8}That luminesce, suggesting the presence of blood. 821 00:33:22,934 --> 00:33:24,836 {\an8}The exterior driver door handle, 822 00:33:24,902 --> 00:33:26,904 {\an8}the entire driver door panel, 823 00:33:24,902 --> 00:33:26,904 {\an8}the entire driver door panel, 824 00:33:26,971 --> 00:33:30,041 {\an8}gear shifter, e-brake, all areas 825 00:33:30,108 --> 00:33:31,709 {\an8}you would touch as you get 826 00:33:31,776 --> 00:33:33,111 {\an8}in your car to drive. 827 00:33:31,776 --> 00:33:33,111 {\an8}in your car to drive. 828 00:33:33,177 --> 00:33:35,947 {\an8}The blood samples were collected 829 00:33:36,013 --> 00:33:38,583 {\an8}and sent off to the lab for a DNA analysis, 830 00:33:36,013 --> 00:33:38,583 {\an8}and sent off to the lab for a DNA analysis, 831 00:33:38,649 --> 00:33:40,585 {\an8}and those results came back 832 00:33:40,651 --> 00:33:43,221 {\an8}to the contributor being James Barry. 833 00:33:45,823 --> 00:33:47,592 This is a major break. 834 00:33:47,658 --> 00:33:50,928 They now have hard evidence, and DNA is irrefutable. 835 00:33:47,658 --> 00:33:50,928 They now have hard evidence, and DNA is irrefutable. 836 00:33:50,995 --> 00:33:53,564 The blood in the car, without a doubt, 837 00:33:53,631 --> 00:33:56,667 proves that Melanie was in the house when James was murdered. 838 00:33:53,631 --> 00:33:56,667 proves that Melanie was in the house when James was murdered. 839 00:33:56,734 --> 00:33:58,569 Now detectives need to get 840 00:33:58,636 --> 00:34:00,972 to the state of Maryland to question her. 841 00:34:15,353 --> 00:34:17,789 {\an8}CONCEPTION: After the confirmation 842 00:34:15,353 --> 00:34:17,789 {\an8}CONCEPTION: After the confirmation 843 00:34:17,855 --> 00:34:20,291 {\an8}of James's DNA inside Melanie's vehicle, 844 00:34:20,358 --> 00:34:24,228 {\an8}detectives face a new challenge, because Melanie crossed 845 00:34:20,358 --> 00:34:24,228 {\an8}detectives face a new challenge, because Melanie crossed 846 00:34:24,295 --> 00:34:27,331 {\an8}state lines by leaving Florida and entering Maryland. 847 00:34:27,398 --> 00:34:30,334 Apprehending her becomes more challenging 848 00:34:27,398 --> 00:34:30,334 Apprehending her becomes more challenging 849 00:34:30,401 --> 00:34:33,037 due to different state laws. 850 00:34:33,104 --> 00:34:35,139 Since she is a flight risk, detectives need to act fast. 851 00:34:33,104 --> 00:34:35,139 Since she is a flight risk, detectives need to act fast. 852 00:34:35,206 --> 00:34:37,008 {\an8}SIEVERS: A detective 853 00:34:37,074 --> 00:34:39,010 {\an8}from Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office traveled 854 00:34:39,076 --> 00:34:42,280 {\an8}to Maryland to speak with Melanie in person. 855 00:34:39,076 --> 00:34:42,280 {\an8}to Maryland to speak with Melanie in person. 856 00:34:42,346 --> 00:34:44,048 And during that interrogation, 857 00:34:44,115 --> 00:34:46,617 she then starts spilling what happened. 858 00:34:44,115 --> 00:34:46,617 she then starts spilling what happened. 859 00:35:02,066 --> 00:35:03,534 {\an8}DETECTIVE: Okay. 860 00:35:05,169 --> 00:35:06,604 {\an8}MELANIE: Yeah. 861 00:35:36,234 --> 00:35:40,771 She told investigators that she went to James's house. 862 00:35:36,234 --> 00:35:40,771 She told investigators that she went to James's house. 863 00:35:40,838 --> 00:35:42,773 They spoke in the kitchen 864 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,475 regarding the breakup. 865 00:35:57,855 --> 00:35:59,957 {\an8}DETECTIVE: Okay. 866 00:35:57,855 --> 00:35:59,957 {\an8}DETECTIVE: Okay. 867 00:36:10,735 --> 00:36:14,105 CONCEPTION: The things she said, her demeanor, her behavior-- 868 00:36:14,171 --> 00:36:16,641 it just showed that, like, the life was out of her. 869 00:36:14,171 --> 00:36:16,641 it just showed that, like, the life was out of her. 870 00:37:00,551 --> 00:37:02,320 Melanie confessed to the murder of James Barry, 871 00:37:02,386 --> 00:37:04,689 and while doing so, she showed no remorse. 872 00:37:02,386 --> 00:37:04,689 and while doing so, she showed no remorse. 873 00:37:04,755 --> 00:37:06,557 {\an8}She also willingly surrendered 874 00:37:06,624 --> 00:37:08,559 {\an8}the clothes she wore the night of the murder. 875 00:37:08,626 --> 00:37:10,161 {\an8}And the subsequent analysis 876 00:37:10,227 --> 00:37:12,763 {\an8}of the shirt confirms the presence of both 877 00:37:12,830 --> 00:37:14,832 {\an8}her and James's DNA. 878 00:37:14,899 --> 00:37:16,834 {\an8}SIEVERS: The day after 879 00:37:14,899 --> 00:37:16,834 {\an8}SIEVERS: The day after 880 00:37:16,901 --> 00:37:19,670 {\an8}her confession, Melanie is extradited 881 00:37:19,737 --> 00:37:21,806 {\an8}from Maryland to Florida, where she is charged 882 00:37:21,872 --> 00:37:25,142 {\an8}with the second-degree murder of James Barry. 883 00:37:21,872 --> 00:37:25,142 {\an8}with the second-degree murder of James Barry. 884 00:37:25,209 --> 00:37:27,311 CONCEPTION: They now know 885 00:37:27,378 --> 00:37:29,246 how James Barry was brutally murdered. 886 00:37:27,378 --> 00:37:29,246 how James Barry was brutally murdered. 887 00:37:31,549 --> 00:37:34,685 SIEVERS: James is breaking up with Melanie 888 00:37:31,549 --> 00:37:34,685 SIEVERS: James is breaking up with Melanie 889 00:37:34,752 --> 00:37:38,022 via video game chat thread. 890 00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:41,158 Angered, she drives her white Toyota 891 00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:41,158 Angered, she drives her white Toyota 892 00:37:41,225 --> 00:37:44,495 over to James's house, where she asks 893 00:37:44,562 --> 00:37:47,164 to speak with him out back of the home. 894 00:37:44,562 --> 00:37:47,164 to speak with him out back of the home. 895 00:37:47,231 --> 00:37:49,700 She sets her cell phone down. 896 00:37:49,767 --> 00:37:51,702 They go inside the house. 897 00:37:51,769 --> 00:37:54,171 They are arguing. James is making it clear 898 00:37:51,769 --> 00:37:54,171 They are arguing. James is making it clear 899 00:37:54,238 --> 00:37:56,207 that he is breaking up with her. 900 00:37:56,273 --> 00:37:59,810 She grows increasingly angry and grabs a knife from the kitchen. 901 00:37:56,273 --> 00:37:59,810 She grows increasingly angry and grabs a knife from the kitchen. 902 00:37:59,877 --> 00:38:02,046 She then catches him by surprise, 903 00:38:02,113 --> 00:38:05,149 stabbing him in the abdomen, 904 00:38:02,113 --> 00:38:05,149 stabbing him in the abdomen, 905 00:38:05,216 --> 00:38:08,953 and delivers another stab wound with an overhead swing 906 00:38:09,020 --> 00:38:10,788 just below the collarbone. 907 00:38:09,020 --> 00:38:10,788 just below the collarbone. 908 00:38:10,855 --> 00:38:12,289 CONCEPTION: James then flees that area 909 00:38:12,356 --> 00:38:14,191 and runs through the hallway. 910 00:38:14,258 --> 00:38:16,394 Melanie pursues after him, continuing 911 00:38:14,258 --> 00:38:16,394 Melanie pursues after him, continuing 912 00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:18,362 to attack him as he's running. 913 00:38:18,429 --> 00:38:21,232 SIEVERS: He then retreats into his bedroom to make contact 914 00:38:21,298 --> 00:38:24,268 with his friend Jeff to ask for help. 915 00:38:21,298 --> 00:38:24,268 with his friend Jeff to ask for help. 916 00:38:25,236 --> 00:38:29,340 Melanie drops the knife and flees out the front door... 917 00:38:25,236 --> 00:38:29,340 Melanie drops the knife and flees out the front door... 918 00:38:29,407 --> 00:38:32,843 and drives away. 919 00:38:32,910 --> 00:38:35,179 {\an8}NEWSMAN: The 1,000-mile journey to bring 920 00:38:32,910 --> 00:38:35,179 {\an8}NEWSMAN: The 1,000-mile journey to bring 921 00:38:35,246 --> 00:38:36,881 {\an8}Melanie Eam back to Palm Beach County 922 00:38:36,947 --> 00:38:38,816 {\an8}to face a judge is now underway. 923 00:38:38,883 --> 00:38:41,085 {\an8}The 20-year-old, charged with second-degree murder, 924 00:38:38,883 --> 00:38:41,085 {\an8}The 20-year-old, charged with second-degree murder, 925 00:38:41,152 --> 00:38:42,687 {\an8}is accused of killing 926 00:38:42,753 --> 00:38:44,255 {\an8}21-year-old James Barry last month. 927 00:38:44,321 --> 00:38:45,956 She eventually turned up, 928 00:38:46,023 --> 00:38:48,359 and law enforcement arrested her in Maryland. 929 00:38:46,023 --> 00:38:48,359 and law enforcement arrested her in Maryland. 930 00:38:48,426 --> 00:38:50,795 NEWSWOMAN: 20-year-old Melanie Eam is facing several charges, 931 00:38:50,861 --> 00:38:52,797 including second-degree murder. 932 00:38:50,861 --> 00:38:52,797 including second-degree murder. 933 00:38:52,863 --> 00:38:55,566 She's accused of brutally stabbing to death 934 00:38:55,633 --> 00:38:59,036 her ex-boyfriend James Barry back in November of last year. 935 00:38:55,633 --> 00:38:59,036 her ex-boyfriend James Barry back in November of last year. 936 00:38:59,103 --> 00:39:00,705 NICOLA BARRY: He loved life, 937 00:39:00,771 --> 00:39:03,941 he loved his family, he loved his friends. 938 00:39:04,008 --> 00:39:06,043 JAMES BARRY SR.: This is for our son. 939 00:39:04,008 --> 00:39:06,043 JAMES BARRY SR.: This is for our son. 940 00:39:06,110 --> 00:39:09,447 This is for his justice, and 941 00:39:09,513 --> 00:39:11,182 that's what we're all looking for. 942 00:39:09,513 --> 00:39:11,182 that's what we're all looking for. 943 00:39:11,248 --> 00:39:13,250 And I do believe in my heart, at the end of the day, 944 00:39:13,317 --> 00:39:15,219 that will be done. 945 00:39:17,755 --> 00:39:19,957 We find the defendant guilty of second-degree murder. 946 00:39:20,024 --> 00:39:22,093 SIEVERS: Melanie Eam is found guilty 947 00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:25,930 of second-degree murder for the death of James Barry. 948 00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:25,930 of second-degree murder for the death of James Barry. 949 00:39:25,996 --> 00:39:27,732 {\an8}JUDGE GLENN KELLEY: What I've decided to do is 950 00:39:27,798 --> 00:39:29,934 {\an8}to impose, uh, a sentence 951 00:39:27,798 --> 00:39:29,934 {\an8}to impose, uh, a sentence 952 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,570 {\an8}of 50 years in the Department of Corrections. 953 00:39:32,636 --> 00:39:34,472 {\an8}SIEVERS: At the time of the murder, 954 00:39:32,636 --> 00:39:34,472 {\an8}SIEVERS: At the time of the murder, 955 00:39:34,538 --> 00:39:36,974 {\an8}Melanie was 20 years old, and now, 956 00:39:37,041 --> 00:39:39,910 {\an8}she's looking at a life in prison with possible 957 00:39:39,977 --> 00:39:44,615 {\an8}release in 2066 at the age of 70. 958 00:39:39,977 --> 00:39:44,615 {\an8}release in 2066 at the age of 70. 959 00:39:44,682 --> 00:39:47,618 She's spending her entire adult life behind bars 960 00:39:44,682 --> 00:39:47,618 She's spending her entire adult life behind bars 961 00:39:47,685 --> 00:39:49,754 over a split-second decision 962 00:39:49,820 --> 00:39:52,356 based on anger over a breakup... 963 00:39:49,820 --> 00:39:52,356 based on anger over a breakup... 964 00:39:55,426 --> 00:39:57,928 ...all while the victims 965 00:39:57,995 --> 00:40:00,931 are vicariously left behind in pain over the death 966 00:39:57,995 --> 00:40:00,931 are vicariously left behind in pain over the death 967 00:40:00,998 --> 00:40:05,636 of their son, loved one, friend, family member. 968 00:40:00,998 --> 00:40:05,636 of their son, loved one, friend, family member. 969 00:40:05,703 --> 00:40:08,506 {\an8}KELLY: 50 years? 970 00:40:08,572 --> 00:40:11,442 {\an8}That's a chunk of time. That's her whole... her whole life. 971 00:40:08,572 --> 00:40:11,442 {\an8}That's a chunk of time. That's her whole... her whole life. 972 00:40:11,509 --> 00:40:13,911 As far as a family goes, and even Melanie, 973 00:40:13,978 --> 00:40:15,913 nobody wins, in this case. 974 00:40:15,980 --> 00:40:17,648 A young man is dead. 975 00:40:15,980 --> 00:40:17,648 A young man is dead. 976 00:40:17,715 --> 00:40:18,916 He had his whole life ahead of him. 977 00:40:18,983 --> 00:40:22,253 And for me, it's tragic. 978 00:40:18,983 --> 00:40:22,253 And for me, it's tragic. 979 00:40:22,319 --> 00:40:23,788 SIEVERS: This case really 980 00:40:23,854 --> 00:40:27,825 outlines as one of brutality, 981 00:40:27,892 --> 00:40:31,162 not only in the form of the physical altercation 982 00:40:27,892 --> 00:40:31,162 not only in the form of the physical altercation 983 00:40:31,228 --> 00:40:33,164 that happened between Melanie and James, 984 00:40:33,230 --> 00:40:36,934 but also the detriment of how young they were. 985 00:40:33,230 --> 00:40:36,934 but also the detriment of how young they were. 986 00:40:38,169 --> 00:40:39,136 Life is not a game. 987 00:40:39,203 --> 00:40:41,605 Melanie can't reset her life. 988 00:40:39,203 --> 00:40:41,605 Melanie can't reset her life. 989 00:40:41,672 --> 00:40:43,474 This is the real world. 990 00:40:43,541 --> 00:40:47,211 She left a digital footprint, which left a bloodstain. 991 00:40:43,541 --> 00:40:47,211 She left a digital footprint, which left a bloodstain. 992 00:40:47,278 --> 00:40:50,815 And it took a life, a real life. 993 00:40:55,820 --> 00:40:58,756 {\an8}ALEXANDRA: I do wish I could go back in time 994 00:40:55,820 --> 00:40:58,756 {\an8}ALEXANDRA: I do wish I could go back in time 995 00:40:58,823 --> 00:41:00,191 {\an8}and gave James the biggest hug that day, 996 00:41:00,257 --> 00:41:02,026 {\an8}and say, "I'm sorry, and I love you." 997 00:41:02,092 --> 00:41:07,865 ♪ Darkness crawls like a shadow on the ground... ♪ 998 00:41:02,092 --> 00:41:07,865 ♪ Darkness crawls like a shadow on the ground... ♪ 999 00:41:07,932 --> 00:41:09,266 ALEXANDRA: I would love 1000 00:41:09,333 --> 00:41:11,101 my brother to be remembered 1001 00:41:09,333 --> 00:41:11,101 my brother to be remembered 1002 00:41:11,168 --> 00:41:14,271 for the love that he had for the world. 1003 00:41:14,338 --> 00:41:19,310 He would want me to be the love that he can't be anymore. 1004 00:41:14,338 --> 00:41:19,310 He would want me to be the love that he can't be anymore. 1005 00:41:20,644 --> 00:41:22,346 I don't like the word "forgiveness." 1006 00:41:20,644 --> 00:41:22,346 I don't like the word "forgiveness." 1007 00:41:22,413 --> 00:41:24,315 I'm not there yet. 1008 00:41:24,381 --> 00:41:25,382 I don't know if I ever will be. 1009 00:41:25,449 --> 00:41:29,553 ♪ Can I keep holding? ♪ 1010 00:41:25,449 --> 00:41:29,553 ♪ Can I keep holding? ♪ 1011 00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:32,523 ALEXANDRA: I've come to peace with the situation 1012 00:41:32,590 --> 00:41:35,259 because at the end of the day, he did love her. 1013 00:41:32,590 --> 00:41:35,259 because at the end of the day, he did love her. 1014 00:41:36,493 --> 00:41:38,162 Be careful of who you love 1015 00:41:38,229 --> 00:41:41,265 'cause it could cost you your life. 1016 00:41:38,229 --> 00:41:41,265 'cause it could cost you your life. 1017 00:41:41,332 --> 00:41:44,535 ♪ If a new age ripens ♪ 1018 00:41:44,602 --> 00:41:48,539 ♪ Can I keep holding? ♪ 1019 00:41:44,602 --> 00:41:48,539 ♪ Can I keep holding? ♪ 1020 00:41:48,606 --> 00:41:53,577 ♪ When the moonlight crescents is it worth the bear? ♪ 1021 00:41:48,606 --> 00:41:53,577 ♪ When the moonlight crescents is it worth the bear? ♪ 1022 00:41:55,446 --> 00:42:00,684 ♪ Darkness crawls like a shadow on the ground ♪ 1023 00:41:55,446 --> 00:42:00,684 ♪ Darkness crawls like a shadow on the ground ♪ 1024 00:42:01,986 --> 00:42:06,056 ♪ Whispering, "Ain't that funny now?" ♪ 1025 00:42:01,986 --> 00:42:06,056 ♪ Whispering, "Ain't that funny now?" ♪ 1026 00:42:08,025 --> 00:42:09,193 {\an8}Captioning sponsored by CBS 1027 00:42:11,195 --> 00:42:12,963 {\an8}Captioning sponsored by CBS 1028 00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:14,031 {\an8}Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 89764

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