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The song of the nightingale -
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one of the most beguiling sounds
in all nature.
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Its haunting musical quality has
inspired generations of artists
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and musicians.
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The latest is David Rothenberg.
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He's a New Age philosopher
and jazz musician,
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and he makes the ultimate claim -
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that birdsong
doesn't just sound like music,
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it IS music.
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It has the formal properties
of music
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and, like human music,
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it's motivated by pleasure.
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But his idea that birds sing for
joy has been scorned by scientists,
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who favour their own,
more rational explanations.
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It's a fight between two ideologies,
with science in one corner
and art in the other.
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I think
science and art work different ways
when it comes to birdsong.
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Science doesn't have the upper hand
in figuring out
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what birdsong is about. One
approach picks up on some things,
misses out on others.
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I don't think
David has thought through
as to what the mechanism might be,
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if his birds sing for joy.
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He's just making
some unscientific declarations
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that insult my birds,
and indirectly, that bothers me.
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This is a leap
right into the eagle's nest
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of disagreement and suspicion,
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and we have some scientists
who think I'm just an interloper,
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playing music with the careful
subjects of their research.
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Now, Pied Piper David
is on a mission to show
music is as important as science
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in our understanding
of why birds sing.
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The morning chorus is
just pure joy, really, isn't it?
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You hear that bursting into life...
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Almost like a piece of music,
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it starts quietly and then builds up.
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It's never going to be
the same performance twice.
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Pretty good, really.
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I love to wake up
and hear that outside,
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and it's deafening sometimes.
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It really sounds like they're
singing for the sake of it.
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Of all the sounds found in nature,
none has proved
as bewitching as birdsong.
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Dogs may bark and cows may moo,
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but it's birds that have inspired
poets and composers.
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And David Rothenberg has taken
the notion that birdsong is musical
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to its extreme.
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I believe that birdsong isn't
just like music, it IS music.
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Science struggles to define
exactly what music is.
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But David thinks he knows.
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Music
is a bunch of sounds put together
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that need to be performed
in a specific way
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where the meaning
is just in the performance -
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you can't say what each part means.
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But it's really
the root of my belief
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that each species has its own
kind of music, its own aesthetic.
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Not surprisingly, the scientists
scoff at his aesthetic notions.
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They believe that birds sing for
two basic evolutionary reasons -
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and making music
has got nothing to do with it.
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Virtually everybody
in the scientific world
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believes that birds sing primarily
to attract mates and repel rivals.
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David doesn't deny this,
but for him,
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science can't explain
the fact that some birds
sing more than they need to,
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even when the mating season is over
and there are no rivals around.
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It's this that makes him think
they might actually sing
because they enjoy it.
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Why shouldn't they be singing
for pleasure? Who are we to assume
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that this kind of animal
doesn't experience joy?
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Birds sing because they're alive.
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They have a million reasons to sing,
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just like we do.
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I think it's something they can do,
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something they can do well,
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and they enjoy it - why not?
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David is now setting out
on a long summer journey to explore
and draw out the musical qualities
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of birds.
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He will meet fellow obsessives...
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bizarre musicians...
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and strip down for his art.
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HE COOS
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At the end of his trip,
he will be granted an audience with
the bigwigs of birdsong science
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to try and gain a little respect.
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Thoroughly wacky! Thoroughly wacky?
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David's journey began in 2002,
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when he went to Pittsburgh Aviary,
just to see what would happen
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if he played to the birds.
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What occurred on that day
was a revelation to him.
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I really didn't expect
much to happen,
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but there were was a particular
moment when I got the idea
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that maybe there was something
to birdsong worth investigating.
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There I was, wandering with
my clarinet through the aviary,
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and one particular bird -
a white-crested laughing thrush -
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really seemed to respond
to what I was doing,
like he was jamming along with me.
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The more he blew, the more it sang,
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and the more he was convinced
it was duetting with him.
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I assumed, actually, that he was
either thinking I was a female bird
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or a potential rival,
but the way he was responding
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was very jamming-like -
very much like music.
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That was what I didn't expect.
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This inter-species jamming session
so excited David
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that he embarked on a quest
to commune with as many birds
as possible.
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Along the way, he wrote a book
about why he thinks
birds are making music.
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Why Birds Sing has outsold
many of the scientific books
you'd find on the same shelves.
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Clearly there are thousands of us
who find his claims not just
credible, but deeply appealing.
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All right. Nice to meet you.
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David Rothenberg
lives in upstate New York,
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where his day job is trying to teach
philosophy to engineering students.
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On the side, he composes avant-garde
music inspired by the natural world.
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.. A wood thrush, which you could
have heard here a few months ago.
You won't hear them now.
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But he doesn't stop there.
In his garden studio,
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he spends hours studying
the musicality of birds,
with the help of sonograms.
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These are visual representations
of the frequency and rhythm
of birdsong.
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A sonogram is a way to objectively
graph how high or low a sound is,
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against how long it is, when you
hear it. You can look at it,
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and thereby have an accurate
representation of what the sound is.
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David has found
all sorts of similarities between
birdsong and human musical form.
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To human ears, the wood warbler
appears to end its song
with a musical accelerando...
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..the robin
sings swelling crescendos...
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..and the thrush,
delicate diminuendos.
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There are technical similarities
too.
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The hermit thrush can sing
in a pentatonic musical scale,
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used in Far Eastern music.
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And the wood thrush is able to sing
in a diatonic scale, the foundation
of Western classical music.
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With one particular birdsong,
that of a veery...
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.. David has found an even closer
connection, by slowing it down
to a tenth of its normal speed.
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You're going to see something
that looks kind of similar,
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a little stretched out,
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but what you hear
is the same structure
brought down into the human scale.
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It's hard not to think
it's somehow musical.
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So there's rhythm, there's
organisation, there's patterns.
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It's really musical stuff going on.
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For science, the fact that birdsong
can be annotated musically
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doesn't prove a thing.
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I'm not sure that I would want
to use the word music
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in relation to birdsong,
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because human music is qualitatively
different from birdsong.
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I don't think birds use scales
in the same sense as we do,
or anything like that.
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You don't want to mix up
two different things which are
very distinct from one another.
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Some birdsongs are beautiful
to our ears, some are not.
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And we have to realise that
these birds are hearing differently
than we are in the first place.
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For the science world,
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David's ideas are just woolly
thinking, but he's determined
to prove them wrong.
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He's travelling to the UK
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to spread his musical gospel.
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His book is beginning to irritate
British avian scientists.
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Their work is based on rigorous
scientific research,
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producing a rational answer
to explain why birds sing.
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When we ask the question, "Why do
birds sing?", the two big ones,
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I think, are what causes it
and what its function is.
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Professor Peter Slater has been
studying vocal communication in
birds and mammals for over 30 years.
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One of his recent publications was
Ambient Noise, Motor Fatigue And
Serial Redundancy In Chaffinch Song.
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What causes it - things
like hormones, time of day,
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whether it's a nice day or not - all
sorts of things that lead the bird
to do it, that cause it to do it.
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But one can also be asking the
question of what function it has -
why does the bird do it?
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What's the point of it?
Does it attract females?
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With the majority of songbirds,
the male does most of the singing
in order to attract the best female.
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The female chooses to mate
with the male
she thinks has the best song.
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This is known as sexual selection.
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There's plenty of evidence to show
the link between songs and sex.
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Scientists have recorded
correlations
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between peak song activity and
peak egg laying.
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Sexual selection
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is evolutionary forces,
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which determine how males develop
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elaborate signals or ornaments,
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such as birdsong,
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or the long tail of a peacock,
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and those develop because females
prefer to mate with males
that possess those traits.
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Some birds
have very sexually selected songs,
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such as warblers or nightingales -
they have songs
which are very complex,
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and females choose males
which have the most complex songs.
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And do female birds ever sing? In
some species, female birds do sing -
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for example, the European starling,
the females sing, though
not as much as the males -
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and in some species, they duet.
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Female and male will duet together
to defend their territory.
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The defence of territory
is the other main evolutionary
function of birdsong.
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In a classic experiment,
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scientists discovered male birds
showed aggressive behaviour towards
speakers playing rival birdsong.
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So there we are - these are the two
principal reasons why birds sing.
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Birds sing primarily
to attract mates and repel rivals.
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But what of David's insistence
that some birds sing much fancier
and longer songs than they need to?
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It's a useful thing
to have a very elaborate song -
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just like, perhaps, human beings,
they don't like to be bored
in conversation.
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Females have a bias towards
perceiving a complex signal
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and prefer those males
which have complex songs.
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There's this awful thing
called habituation.
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If you tell the same funny story many
times, the audience stops laughing.
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If you sing the same song many, many
times, the female may habituate
to it and stop being interested.
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So a male that produces
a really varied repertoire
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is likely to attract a female more
than one with less of a repertoire.
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We know this is the case
in a number of species of bird -
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the more varied your repertoire, the
more likely you are to get a female.
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As soon as you say that a song is
more beautiful than it has to be,
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or that the male is singing
more than he has to,
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I think you're insulting that female
who has directed, silently,
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this whole birdsong feast
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that we listen to all summer long.
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So for the scientists, birdsong's
function is easily explained.
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It's all about sex, territory
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and passing your genes on
to the next generation.
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I'm not sure David Rothenberg
is asking any of these questions.
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I think his major interest
is why birdsong is beautiful,
and why it's musical.
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I think they're more questions
about human beings
than they are about birds.
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I think we know
far more about why birds sing
than we know about why humans sing.
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# If all the young ladies
were blackbirds and thrushes
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# If all the young ladies
were blackbirds and thrushes
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# Then all the young men
would go beating the bushes
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# Fol-de-dol diddle-dol
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# Diddle-dol-day
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# If all the young ladies
were ducks on the water
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# If all the young ladies
were ducks on the water
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# Then all the young men
would go swimming in after
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# Fol-de-dol diddle-dol
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# Diddle-dol-day
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# If all the young ladies
were rushes a-growing
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# If all the young ladies
were rushes a-growing
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# Then all the young men
would get scythes and go mowing
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# Fol-de-dol diddle-dol
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# Diddle-dol-day. #
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For now, David's wings have been
clipped by the scientific community.
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So he's off to look
for moral support from Simon Barnes,
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Times sports writer and author
of How To Be A Bad Birdwatcher.
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So where are we, Simon?
We're out in East Suffolk,
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which is a very decent area
for birds -
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an area that's mostly arable farming
and rough pasture.
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We've a nice bit of copse
in front of us,
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where we get a few songbirds
every year.
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Why do you think birds sing?
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Yes! I... well, I loved
the core point of your book,
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that there is no evolutionary reason
why birdsong should be beautiful.
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And I was absolutely enthralled
by that,
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because I've always loved birdsong
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for the magic of it and
the complexity of it and, of course,
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for the beauty of it.
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I don't understand why scientists
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tend to believe that an animal,
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in fulfilling its nature,
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somehow should be far away
from something like pleasure
or enjoying the process.
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Why is that more scientific than...?
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I... I find that strange.
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I mean, to talk about the
emotional life of animals, or even
the cultural transmission in animals,
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puts you on dangerous ground.
I understand by anthropomorphism
because I'm an anthropos - a man.
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That's how you understand things.
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But scientists are terrified of that
and shy away from it,
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and try and put... I mean, there are
aspects of life that don't work
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in charts and pie charts
and bar graphs and so forth.
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Boosted by Simon's fervour,
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David returns to his musical quest,
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determined to discover
the holy grail of human-bird duets.
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He's off to the Thames Estuary
to recreate a piece of history.
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In 1924,
the BBC organised what was to be
its first ever outside broadcast.
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It featured the acclaimed cellist
and muse of Edward Elgar,
Beatrice Harrison.
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What was unique about this broadcast
was that Harrison set up the cello
in her Surrey garden
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and was recorded duetting with that
most romantic of all songbirds,
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the nightingale.
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The nightingale is the perfect bird
for David to test his musical ideas,
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as it sings its repertoire of over
300 songs alone in the evening,
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when many other species are quiet.
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CELLO AND NIGHTINGALE SONG PLAY
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David has been alerted
to a wood in Kent
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where he hopes
to repeat Beatrice Harrison's
human-nightingale collaboration.
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And this is
quite an ancient woodland,
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and it's home to a particularly
special bird, the nightingale.
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We've got
about 15 pairs of nightingales
breeding in the woodland here.
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Do you think we might hear some
today?
of nightingale song a minute ago.
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It's a very rich, mellow song,
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and as we get
towards the end of the day,
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the song will be a bit more
in stark relief.
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To complete the recreation,
cellist Andrea Hess
is to don Beatrice's robes
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and play her repertoire
in an attempt to draw out and duet
with the elusive songbird.
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That's it. That's more or less it.
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I'm very curious
about birds and intonation,
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because they never seem to sing
out of tune.
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How do they do it?
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Musicians struggle always
to be perfectly in tune,
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and birds do it so effortlessly.
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Not to be left out,
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David has also dressed in Beatrice's
magical robes, as part of the
plan to lure out the nightingale.
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Meanwhile, in tribute to Beatrice
Harrison's most famous patron,
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Andrea plays some Elgar
to warm her and the birds up.
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Initially, there's no response
from the nightingale.
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She has now been playing
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for nearly two hours, and
Andrea is ready to put down her bow
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and give up the ghost,
when suddenly...
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TWITTERING RESPONSE
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The nightingale is actually
responding to the cello.
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What I'm really trying to say is
birds make music -
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they're singing pieces of music,
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and that we cannot explain it away
by just saying what it's for.
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Take the song of the nightingale -
many different phrases,
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many different rhythms. When
it comes to complicated birdsongs,
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scientists have been counting
the wrong things. So far,
what scientists tend to do
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is count the number of different
syllables and sounds you hear.
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But they stop there.
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What I'm interested in
is how they're put together
in a structured way,
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like a piece of music.
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MUSIC: Cello Concerto in E minor,
Opus 85, by Edward Elgar
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I think the creative potential
of birdsong as musical material
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is endless. In each generation,
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we have different ideas
of how human music works.
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We're going to hear
different things as being musical.
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I think today, with the world
of electronic music we live in,
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strange sounds
being increasingly appreciated,
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a song like the nightingale's
opens up new possibilities for us.
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It starts to sound
like a DJ scratching records.
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And these rhythms
are not limited to the music world.
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The nightingale
has also inspired the rustic poetry
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of John Clare.
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Clare brought an almost forensic
accuracy to the depiction of
the nightingale song in his poems.
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It is this blending of science
and art that has drawn David
to Northamptonshire
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to meet poet and Clare expert,
Paul Farley.
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So, Paul, here we are wandering
through John Clare country.
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Yes. This is the wood where
Clare came to listen to the
nightingales sing - the very wood.
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Birdsong seems to have been
quite important for Clare.
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I think so. Clare's very different
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from the other Romantic poets.
He's often routinely bundled in
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and called a Romantic, but in fact
there's lots of differences
between Clare's poetry
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and that of somebody like, say,
John Keats.
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Um, Clare was much more interested
in not just the song of the bird,
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but the whole universe surrounding
it, its habitat,
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a description of the bird's nest
and its eggs.
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In a funny kind of way,
he puts the song of the bird
back into the bird's mouth.
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The more I listened
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And the more each note
seemed sweeter than before
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And aye so different was the strain
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She'd scarce repeat the note again
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Chew chew, chew chew
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And higher still
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Cheer cheer, cheer cheer
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More loud and shrill
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Cheer up, cheer up, cheer up
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And dropped low
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Tweet tweet, jug jug jug
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And stopped.
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John Clare's birdsong-inspired
poetry was almost more
scientific than Romantic,
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combining phonetic and poetical
language, rather like an early
literary form of the sonogram.
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Clare was way ahead
of both scientists
and composers and musicians.
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He was turning human language
towards nightingale sounds
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when he wrote down in his notebook,
"Chew cheer cheer cheer chee chee."
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He really took this song seriously
long before music was able to do,
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long before science was able to do,
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because scientists would not take
the study of birdsong very seriously
until they could record it,
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and then print it out and turn it
into data to be rigorously analysed.
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In fact, the history of
the scientific study of birdsong
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has shown ever more accurate ways
of quantifying it.
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Well, originally, birdsong
was studied very informally,
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very qualitatively, because we
didn't have the equipment to record
the song nor to analyse it.
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Now we can measure frequencies
very precisely.
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We can measure rhythms
very precisely.
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We can measure form very precisely.
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There are a lot of tools we can use
which allow us to quantify,
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which is one of the major things
about science. If you quantify,
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then you can answer scientific
questions to a much greater extent
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than if you just wave your arms
around and don't count things.
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One man who knows a thing or two -
or three - about counting is
Professor Donald Kroodsma.
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A wise owl of birdsong science,
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there is little he doesn't know
about collecting and recording
birdsong data.
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Kroodsma lives
amongst his beloved birds
in the forests of Massachusetts.
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To capture these songs,
I love to use what's called
a parabolic microphone.
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It's just a precision instrument
that takes sounds and directs them
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off this parabola
back to the microphone.
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It's like when you aim that parabola
at a bird and put the headphones on,
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suddenly you are there.
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The bird is right there,
singing in your face,
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so loud and crisp, and it's magical.
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There are about
4,600 species of songbirds.
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It's a remarkable number,
a remarkably successful group.
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Some sing beautiful, varied songs,
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some sing the same little phrase
again and again.
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Almost everything to do with
birdsong varies
from one species to another.
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Oh, one of my favourite birdsongs,
I think, is the wood thrush,
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to slow down, to really get
a feeling for what's going on
in these birds,
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because it gives you a glimpse of
what's going on in those voice boxes,
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as the bird is actually singing.
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We humans have just one voice box,
and it's at the top of our windpipe.
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But birds, extraordinarily,
can sing a duet with themselves,
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because they have two voice boxes -
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down at the bottom of the windpipe,
it branches off to the two lungs,
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and at the top of each branch is an
independently controlled voice box.
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But when you slow that song down,
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you see those two voice boxes
at work.
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The double voice box
certainly impresses the ladies -
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yet more evidence for the role
of song in attracting females.
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It's the female, I'm convinced,
who's doing all the listening,
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and making decisions,
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because you have all these females
paired to males,
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and they're paired monogamously.
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But yet there's so much more going
on in these monogamous pairings,
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because once you do the DNA
fingerprinting of the babies
in the nest,
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you realise that these females
are mating not only with their
own social monogamous partner,
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but they're also mating with
other males in the neighbourhood.
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In this clip from The Life Of Birds,
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two male sparrows, Alpha and Beta,
are vying for the attentions
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of one female.
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But she has got her eye cocked.
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Beta is still in the hedge,
calling quietly to her.
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She joins him, and now, while
Alpha is preoccupied with feeding,
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she and Beta get together.
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Twirling her tail is an invitation,
and in a split second, they mate.
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So why do males sing?
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Well, I think they sing,
and they sing so much more than
we would think would be necessary -
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they sing because
females are always listening.
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Donald Kroodsma is one of
the best-known field biologists
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working on birdsong,
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and most of his work is collecting
song in the field and analysing it.
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I would say that the one thing
missing from Don's analysis is
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he just hasn't given music
that much thought,
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and I think
if you take music seriously,
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you will then take birdsong
more seriously.
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00:30:25,820 --> 00:30:28,580
I'm not sure anybody knows
what music is!
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It's, er... I suppose as a scientist,
I might say,
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well, it's any series, any pattern
of sounds that strikes us
as somewhat pleasing,
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but not all human music is pleasing
to me,
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so I don't know what human music is.
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00:30:42,970 --> 00:30:47,521
I really don't know what bird music
is, or whether birdsong IS music.
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00:30:51,180 --> 00:30:56,150
David's work has this veneer
of rigour, because he talks
about scientific work,
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and yet to me it's unscientific,
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and in that sense it undermines the
agenda many of us have, to make the
world more scientifically literate.
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I'm interested in birdsong as music.
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Why do so many birdsongs sound
musical to our human ears?
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# Una verdad se inventa
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# Con suma precision
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# Y la labor inmensa
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# De la imaginacio-on... #
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The song La Verdad,
which means The Truth,
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well, actually, its lyrics don't
have pretty much to do with birds,
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but the way I build up the music,
it has.
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# Yo no quiero desganos
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# Ni falta de pasion
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00:32:07,310 --> 00:32:10,920
# Yo no quiero estar en manos
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00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:20,170
# De un gran simulado-or
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# No-o... #
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00:32:26,620 --> 00:32:30,610
'I was playing that song
outside my house,'
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and these birds sang there,
like, "Qua-ka-ra-ka....!"
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00:32:35,860 --> 00:32:38,770
And that was a long, long time ago,
and that day,
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I said, I want this cascade,
like a waterfall of birds.
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I started to loop different lengths
of music,
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so I have a pattern going one loop,
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and a different pattern
going in another loop.
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# Ka-ka, ka-ka-ka-ka-ka... #
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SECOND LOOP OF SOUND DEVELOPS
WITH SCAT SINGING
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Music is everywhere.
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00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,710
We live in an ocean of sound.
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00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:59,910
I was playing this show in Italy
on top of a hill one evening,
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00:33:59,910 --> 00:34:02,590
and I heard
this very cool brand-new part,
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00:34:02,590 --> 00:34:08,260
then I realised I was singing a duet
with this little owl.
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And I thought, I could die right now,
cos life does not get better
than this!
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I'm singing a duet with an owl!
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JARVIS COCKER:
It's kind of like the original
Andean music, birdsong, isn't it?
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It's like it generates itself.
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I mean, I suppose as a listener,
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you affect it a little bit,
as in if you make too much noise,
they'll shut up and fly away.
447
00:34:33,150 --> 00:34:38,827
But if you sit there, and
are quiet, then it just happens.
448
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,519
David knows he'll eventually
have to face the music
with the science world,
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00:35:01,519 --> 00:35:06,582
but before he does, he's biding
his time with a kindred spirit.
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HE WHISTLES
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In New Jersey, Joe Sodano has been
impersonating birds since he was 4.
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He combines this hobby with running
a business transporting turkeys.
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00:35:21,019 --> 00:35:25,570
OK, who's going to market?
HE GOBBLES AT THEM
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Your turn, buddy.
455
00:35:32,739 --> 00:35:35,559
It's your turn, buddy.
456
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:39,120
It's your turn.
Somebody wants to eat you.
457
00:35:42,309 --> 00:35:45,399
So what kind of birds
can you imitate?
458
00:35:45,399 --> 00:35:47,419
Oh...
459
00:35:47,419 --> 00:35:50,039
a lot of birds.
460
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:54,399
I love the cardinal, but this time
of year, they're not responding,
461
00:35:54,399 --> 00:35:58,479
cos they're mating. The cardinal -
he's a beautiful bird, the cardinal.
462
00:35:58,479 --> 00:36:00,029
He goes, like...
463
00:36:00,029 --> 00:36:02,463
PIERCING WHISTLE
464
00:36:10,059 --> 00:36:13,438
Then we have the northern
mockingbird, which I love.
465
00:36:23,749 --> 00:36:26,609
We've got the American robin.
466
00:36:26,609 --> 00:36:31,342
He goes, like, "Hello, Mr Robin!"
"Hello!" he says.
467
00:36:43,669 --> 00:36:48,038
Joe's not the only one
in his household who can sing.
468
00:37:09,359 --> 00:37:11,384
What's your favourite birdsong?
469
00:37:12,739 --> 00:37:16,391
Birdsong? Um...
470
00:37:18,689 --> 00:37:20,519
.. like...
471
00:37:20,519 --> 00:37:21,969
I love can-can.
472
00:37:21,969 --> 00:37:26,053
HE TWEETS THE CAN-CAN
473
00:37:30,689 --> 00:37:33,459
'Birds sing because they're happy.
474
00:37:33,459 --> 00:37:39,079
'The world is going to be
a very, very dark place
if the birds aren't singing. '
475
00:37:39,079 --> 00:37:41,991
CAN-CAN CONTINUES WITH BACKING
476
00:37:44,989 --> 00:37:48,319
'My whistle,
it'll pierce you sometimes.
477
00:37:48,319 --> 00:37:54,459
'People complain, that have
hearing aids, that it kind of does
something to their hearing aid.
478
00:37:54,459 --> 00:37:56,472
'I've had a few complaints. '
479
00:38:39,369 --> 00:38:43,169
Humans imitating birds
is no rare phenomenon.
480
00:39:16,779 --> 00:39:20,339
Astonishingly,
the process can work in reverse.
481
00:39:20,339 --> 00:39:24,089
Good heavens! What's the time?
482
00:39:24,089 --> 00:39:26,059
Who's a pretty boy, then?
483
00:39:26,059 --> 00:39:27,509
Say hello.
484
00:39:27,509 --> 00:39:29,109
'Ello!
485
00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:33,369
SCOTTISH ACCENT:
A bird in the hand
is worth two in the bush.
486
00:39:33,369 --> 00:39:35,479
WOLF WHISTLE
487
00:39:35,479 --> 00:39:37,409
Give us a kiss!
488
00:39:37,409 --> 00:39:39,419
Da-da-da-da-ra!
489
00:39:39,419 --> 00:39:43,449
But perhaps
the most extraordinary example
of a bird learning human sounds
490
00:39:43,449 --> 00:39:47,859
is that of the superb lyre bird,
native of Australia.
491
00:39:47,859 --> 00:39:50,589
It's the daddy of all mimics.
492
00:39:51,469 --> 00:39:55,269
To persuade females to come close
and admire his plumes,
493
00:39:55,269 --> 00:39:57,839
he sings the most complex song
he can manage,
494
00:39:57,839 --> 00:40:02,059
and he does that by copying
the songs of all the other birds
he hears around him,
495
00:40:02,059 --> 00:40:04,175
such as the kookaburra.
496
00:40:09,469 --> 00:40:12,381
Even the original is fooled.
497
00:40:16,359 --> 00:40:19,689
He also, in his attempt
to outsing his rivals,
498
00:40:19,689 --> 00:40:22,977
incorporates other sounds
that he hears in the forest.
499
00:40:23,999 --> 00:40:26,209
That was a camera shutter.
500
00:40:26,209 --> 00:40:27,609
And again.
501
00:40:27,609 --> 00:40:31,181
And now,
a camera with a motor drive.
502
00:40:37,459 --> 00:40:39,051
And that's a car alarm.
503
00:40:40,929 --> 00:40:44,774
The sounds of foresters
and their chainsaws working nearby.
504
00:40:57,149 --> 00:41:00,709
What the lyre bird is doing
is called vocal learning.
505
00:41:00,709 --> 00:41:02,769
This is the ability of an animal
506
00:41:02,769 --> 00:41:06,339
to learn and reproduce a new sound,
and it makes them pretty special,
507
00:41:06,339 --> 00:41:09,297
because very few other animals
can do it.
508
00:41:16,269 --> 00:41:18,379
David's decided to go to New York
509
00:41:18,379 --> 00:41:22,409
to explore the similarities between
bird and human vocal learning.
510
00:41:22,409 --> 00:41:24,949
He's meeting
Professor Ofer Tchernichovski,
511
00:41:24,949 --> 00:41:27,379
a man so obsessed
with vocal learning
512
00:41:27,379 --> 00:41:32,783
that he's spent a solid 11 years
studying the song of just one
bird species - the zebra finch.
513
00:41:37,419 --> 00:41:42,009
Ofer and his research team keep
50 breeding pairs of zebra finches
514
00:41:42,009 --> 00:41:45,429
that provide a constant supply
of little learners.
515
00:41:45,429 --> 00:41:47,729
In each one of those nest boxes
516
00:41:47,729 --> 00:41:49,559
you can see there are eggs.
517
00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:53,069
Those are eggs that were just laid
by the female. Once they hatch,
518
00:41:53,069 --> 00:41:55,509
we are going to separate the father
519
00:41:55,509 --> 00:41:59,318
and take the mother with the chicks
to another colony area
520
00:41:59,318 --> 00:42:01,279
for mothers and babies only.
521
00:42:01,279 --> 00:42:02,969
We are doing that
522
00:42:02,969 --> 00:42:06,159
because the female zebra finches,
they do not sing.
523
00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:10,708
So those young animals are going to
grow up without hearing natural song
524
00:42:10,708 --> 00:42:12,578
until we decide to let them hear it.
525
00:42:12,578 --> 00:42:15,538
Zebra finches are popular
with birdsong scientists
526
00:42:15,538 --> 00:42:19,519
because they breed like rabbits.
From being an egg to laying an egg
527
00:42:19,519 --> 00:42:21,958
takes just 90 days.
528
00:42:21,958 --> 00:42:27,635
So with four generations in a year,
Ofer gets answers about
song learning very quickly.
529
00:42:28,758 --> 00:42:32,129
When they're 35 days old, Ofer
transfers his baby male finches
530
00:42:32,129 --> 00:42:33,958
to a soundproof box.
531
00:42:33,958 --> 00:42:37,329
Here, he uses models
to train his birds to sing.
532
00:42:37,329 --> 00:42:39,398
You see this young male...
533
00:42:39,398 --> 00:42:43,338
and you can see
that there is a plastic figure
534
00:42:43,338 --> 00:42:46,239
just there, in front of a speaker.
535
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:51,729
And you can see two keys right there,
on the left and on the right.
536
00:42:51,729 --> 00:42:55,708
Occasionally he is pecking
on those keys, and he is doing that
537
00:42:55,708 --> 00:42:59,418
in order to hear song playback
that comes from this direction
538
00:42:59,418 --> 00:43:01,948
where we see a figure of a bird.
539
00:43:01,948 --> 00:43:04,618
As soon as this young finch
pecks on a button,
540
00:43:04,618 --> 00:43:07,338
it hears the song...
541
00:43:07,338 --> 00:43:10,988
relaxes, and begins to fall asleep.
542
00:43:10,988 --> 00:43:14,319
Every noise the zebra finches make
is recorded,
543
00:43:14,319 --> 00:43:17,318
and 10,000 gigabytes of data
have been analysed.
544
00:43:17,318 --> 00:43:22,153
Ofer believes
he's starting to understand how
the zebra finches learn to sing.
545
00:43:25,199 --> 00:43:27,818
Like humans,
546
00:43:27,818 --> 00:43:30,028
he's found they need teachers,
547
00:43:30,028 --> 00:43:33,498
regular practice,
and frequent naps.
548
00:43:33,498 --> 00:43:37,249
Also like us, they have
a critical period for learning.
549
00:43:37,249 --> 00:43:41,089
They can learn only during a very
narrow window of their development.
550
00:43:41,089 --> 00:43:44,889
When they are about 35 days old,
they have already started to sing,
551
00:43:44,889 --> 00:43:48,689
very faint songs, called subsongs.
At that time,
552
00:43:48,689 --> 00:43:52,388
if they hear a song of an adult male,
which they've never heard,
553
00:43:52,388 --> 00:43:54,828
they can actually start imitating it.
554
00:43:54,828 --> 00:43:57,968
If we just wait 30 more days,
they cannot do very well.
555
00:43:57,969 --> 00:44:01,009
If we wait another 20 days,
they can hardly imitate at all.
556
00:44:01,009 --> 00:44:04,908
And Ofer sees a human connection to
his experience with zebra finches.
557
00:44:04,908 --> 00:44:07,809
We are very interested - what is it
558
00:44:07,809 --> 00:44:12,969
in their sensitive period
that is so special,
which also makes them similar to us?
559
00:44:12,969 --> 00:44:16,998
Human infants can acquire
new language and learn it,
560
00:44:16,998 --> 00:44:20,559
and acquire it with
no apparent effort and no accent.
561
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:23,938
You can hear that I have an accent.
My daughters don't.
562
00:44:23,938 --> 00:44:26,418
At the beginning
of the window of learning,
563
00:44:26,418 --> 00:44:29,468
the birds make random sounds,
just like babies do.
564
00:44:29,468 --> 00:44:32,518
You can see that in this very young
bird, at about day 35,
565
00:44:32,518 --> 00:44:34,769
he was never trained with anything...
566
00:44:34,769 --> 00:44:39,548
But as they quickly mature, Ofer
has discovered that the birds
favour specific sounds,
567
00:44:39,548 --> 00:44:43,529
that appear as clusters
on the graphs. Not only that,
568
00:44:43,529 --> 00:44:49,388
they also start singing them
in a set order, just like a child
turning noises into words.
569
00:44:49,388 --> 00:44:53,889
But just because zebra finch
and human learning
develop along similar lines,
570
00:44:53,889 --> 00:44:56,658
it doesn't mean the birds know
what they're doing.
571
00:44:56,658 --> 00:45:01,999
It doesn't mean the birds have
consciousness, and it doesn't mean
they think their songs beautiful.
572
00:45:01,999 --> 00:45:06,498
So you've listened
to these baby male zebra finches,
573
00:45:06,498 --> 00:45:10,769
found all these clusters,
you've drawn this graph
and all these lines.
574
00:45:10,769 --> 00:45:16,628
Can science address the question
of why birdsong sounds beautiful
to human ears?
575
00:45:16,628 --> 00:45:23,098
I personally wouldn't like
to live in a world where
we could really measure beauty.
576
00:45:23,098 --> 00:45:27,978
For me, the fact that I can observe
those clusters shown up,
577
00:45:27,978 --> 00:45:30,319
I just observe more beauty.
578
00:45:30,319 --> 00:45:33,738
It doesn't explain the beauty,
but I can see it.
579
00:45:33,738 --> 00:45:36,268
In art, people create beauty.
580
00:45:36,268 --> 00:45:40,455
In science, it's less talented
people, who can only discover beauty.
581
00:46:03,138 --> 00:46:07,538
The beauty of birdsong has inspired
artists and musicians for centuries.
582
00:46:07,538 --> 00:46:10,348
Composers such as Haydn,
Ravel and Beethoven
583
00:46:10,348 --> 00:46:14,398
have incorporated the sound into
some of their most famous works.
584
00:46:16,348 --> 00:46:18,838
Music is essentially
an abstract art form,
585
00:46:18,838 --> 00:46:20,758
but, having said that,
586
00:46:20,758 --> 00:46:24,278
obviously everyday sounds
feed into the compositional process
587
00:46:24,278 --> 00:46:26,898
and so I think if you are a composer
with an acute ear,
588
00:46:26,898 --> 00:46:29,898
little things will feed in,
and you'll play with them,
589
00:46:29,898 --> 00:46:34,169
just as, in a way,
one quotes earlier composers.
590
00:46:34,169 --> 00:46:36,089
So you quote the sounds around you.
591
00:46:36,089 --> 00:46:38,668
Beethoven, in the Pastoral Symphony,
592
00:46:38,668 --> 00:46:41,618
is expressing, I think,
the serenity of nature,
593
00:46:41,618 --> 00:46:46,588
and he decorates a cadence point
in the slow movement
594
00:46:46,588 --> 00:46:50,948
with a little cadenza
for three birds.
595
00:46:50,948 --> 00:46:54,372
There's the nightingale,
which has this oscillation...
596
00:46:58,268 --> 00:47:01,498
.. which gets gradually faster
and turns into a trill,
597
00:47:01,498 --> 00:47:03,090
then there's the cuckoo...
598
00:47:04,548 --> 00:47:06,379
.. and the quail.
599
00:47:53,769 --> 00:47:55,689
It's very fascinating
600
00:47:55,689 --> 00:47:59,446
that as we got into the 20th century
in musical history,
601
00:47:59,446 --> 00:48:01,976
so we had a complete shift
602
00:48:01,976 --> 00:48:04,416
in terms of birdsong.
603
00:48:04,416 --> 00:48:06,426
Up until then, on the whole,
604
00:48:06,426 --> 00:48:10,836
composers had imitated, and mainly
imitated birds that we recognise -
605
00:48:10,836 --> 00:48:14,826
cuckoos or whatever,
or pigeons and things like that,
a cooing sound.
606
00:48:14,826 --> 00:48:19,092
With Messiaen, we got a key change.
607
00:48:23,546 --> 00:48:28,046
Olivier Messiaen
was one of the most important
composers of the 20th century.
608
00:48:28,046 --> 00:48:32,586
His music was harmonically
colourful, rhythmically complex,
609
00:48:32,586 --> 00:48:36,246
and in his later work,
hugely influenced by birdsong.
610
00:48:36,246 --> 00:48:39,056
However, unlike
previous classical composers,
611
00:48:39,056 --> 00:48:43,656
Messiaen actually went
into the fields and forests
of his native France to listen to
612
00:48:43,656 --> 00:48:45,954
and musically notate birdsong.
613
00:48:47,736 --> 00:48:51,576
His belief was
that birds were musical,
614
00:48:51,576 --> 00:48:56,306
but that they were musical because
God had put them into creation
615
00:48:56,306 --> 00:48:57,626
to be musicians.
616
00:48:57,626 --> 00:49:02,596
They were the real musicians of...
of God's creation,
rather than human beings.
617
00:49:02,596 --> 00:49:06,996
Peter Hill studied with Messiaen
and has recorded many of his works.
618
00:49:06,996 --> 00:49:09,296
When I studied with Messiaen,
619
00:49:09,296 --> 00:49:13,326
he always confessed, "I'm not
a scientist - I write birdsong,
620
00:49:13,326 --> 00:49:16,886
"really, because I love birds,
and they enchant me."
621
00:49:16,886 --> 00:49:20,456
He worked them into a whole series
of very remarkable pieces.
622
00:49:20,456 --> 00:49:24,156
The most famous, probably, is
for piano - Catalogue d'Oiseaux.
623
00:49:24,156 --> 00:49:27,996
One of the most beautiful pieces
in Messiaen's Catalogue d'Oiseaux,
624
00:49:27,996 --> 00:49:31,046
which he wrote in the mid-1950s,
is Le Traquet Stapazin,
625
00:49:31,046 --> 00:49:33,536
which translates
as the Black-Eared Wheatear,
626
00:49:33,536 --> 00:49:37,936
and he's imagining
a kind of medley of birds here
627
00:49:37,936 --> 00:49:42,256
in the darkness before dawn
on a midsummer morning.
628
00:49:42,256 --> 00:49:46,796
First of all there's the ortolan
bunting, a flute-like sound,
629
00:49:46,796 --> 00:49:51,256
Messiaen says, and then
the spectacled warbler,
630
00:49:51,256 --> 00:49:53,596
which has a kind of
chattering effect,
631
00:49:53,596 --> 00:49:56,042
but always over this harmony
of E major...
632
00:49:57,906 --> 00:50:02,406
And then that's interrupted
by a harsh sea bird out to sea,
633
00:50:02,406 --> 00:50:04,426
so we know we're by the sea -
634
00:50:04,426 --> 00:50:06,116
it's a herring gull...
635
00:50:06,116 --> 00:50:07,947
And then a great crow...
636
00:50:10,096 --> 00:50:12,018
Then you get the gentler birds...
637
00:50:13,706 --> 00:50:17,654
That's the spectacled warbler again,
and then the goldfinch.
638
00:50:19,806 --> 00:50:23,876
In the world that Messiaen creates
from birdsong, it is very angular,
639
00:50:23,876 --> 00:50:29,126
and it doesn't fit into
our ordinary concept of harmony.
640
00:50:29,126 --> 00:50:32,976
But that's why it's sort of unique,
and in a way it's truer to birdsong
641
00:50:32,976 --> 00:50:36,026
than, actually, Beethoven was,
or Mozart or Haydn,
642
00:50:36,026 --> 00:50:39,917
because they were trying to fit it
in to a pre-existing harmony.
643
00:51:11,976 --> 00:51:18,356
In one way, birdsong is the most
perfect music, because it exists
in a kind of vacuum of its own.
644
00:51:18,356 --> 00:51:21,076
It's unsullied, it's totally pure.
645
00:51:21,076 --> 00:51:25,616
In another way, it has nothing to do
with music as we know it.
646
00:51:25,616 --> 00:51:30,406
But one of the great challenges
any artist faces
647
00:51:30,406 --> 00:51:32,516
is to bring these things together -
648
00:51:32,516 --> 00:51:34,526
to bring the sounds of nature
649
00:51:34,526 --> 00:51:38,246
into the constructs
that we call Western music.
650
00:51:44,186 --> 00:51:46,156
Rising to that challenge,
651
00:51:46,156 --> 00:51:51,826
two modern-day Messiaens have come
together at Peter Gabriel's
Real World Studios in Wiltshire
652
00:51:51,826 --> 00:51:54,636
to work on a unique composition.
653
00:51:54,636 --> 00:51:59,566
They are musician Richard Evans
and producer Simon Emmerson,
654
00:51:59,566 --> 00:52:02,886
who, as well as leading
the Afro-Celt Sound System,
655
00:52:02,886 --> 00:52:05,376
is also an obsessive birdwatcher.
656
00:52:05,376 --> 00:52:10,956
David has sent Simon and Richard
a selection of bird sounds
657
00:52:10,956 --> 00:52:13,956
around which they'll create
a brand-new piece of music.
658
00:52:13,956 --> 00:52:17,566
We started by building up
the rhythm track
659
00:52:17,566 --> 00:52:20,656
and the obvious place
was at the bottom end,
660
00:52:20,656 --> 00:52:23,236
a place where a bass drum
or a bass beat would fall,
661
00:52:23,236 --> 00:52:25,246
so we put a bittern on beat one...
662
00:52:25,246 --> 00:52:27,266
LOW BOOM
663
00:52:27,266 --> 00:52:32,756
.. which is this marshland bird
that skulks around
664
00:52:32,756 --> 00:52:34,576
in the fringes of the reeds.
665
00:52:37,766 --> 00:52:40,396
OK. We then wanted a back beat,
666
00:52:40,396 --> 00:52:43,906
um, and a stonechat has a sound
667
00:52:43,906 --> 00:52:47,186
of a stone being hit together,
668
00:52:47,186 --> 00:52:49,495
so we bring in the stonechat...
669
00:52:52,206 --> 00:52:56,846
.. so you've got a basic groove,
one two.
670
00:52:56,846 --> 00:53:00,836
We put a woodpecker in now,
just to act as a kind of woodblock.
671
00:53:00,836 --> 00:53:03,406
That's the woodpecker,
672
00:53:03,406 --> 00:53:07,486
um, tapping away... on a tree.
673
00:53:07,486 --> 00:53:10,125
It's not doing the drumming.
674
00:53:12,976 --> 00:53:14,671
Here comes the hoopoe.
675
00:53:24,276 --> 00:53:26,846
So there's your basic rhythm track.
676
00:53:26,846 --> 00:53:29,196
We can mix and vary these.
677
00:53:29,196 --> 00:53:33,086
So we needed, like, a lead vocal.
678
00:53:33,086 --> 00:53:36,036
The, er, most...
679
00:53:36,036 --> 00:53:39,886
appealingly vocal we've got,
I think, is the eider duck,
680
00:53:39,886 --> 00:53:45,416
which sounds a little bit like
Frankie Howerd, the English comedian,
681
00:53:45,416 --> 00:53:48,886
guesting on Carry On Birdwatching.
682
00:53:48,886 --> 00:53:50,056
Oo-ooh!
683
00:53:50,056 --> 00:53:52,536
Oo-ooh!
684
00:53:52,536 --> 00:53:54,326
Oo-ooh!
685
00:53:54,326 --> 00:53:55,636
Oo-ooh!
686
00:53:55,636 --> 00:53:59,481
And that is eider duck,
it's not Frankie Howerd.
687
00:54:01,546 --> 00:54:04,256
And finally,
688
00:54:04,256 --> 00:54:05,806
um...
689
00:54:05,806 --> 00:54:08,756
OK, let's just stop all that.
690
00:54:08,756 --> 00:54:12,976
The day before,
Peter Gabriel recorded some vocals,
691
00:54:12,976 --> 00:54:15,466
based on the song
of the butcher bird,
692
00:54:15,466 --> 00:54:19,406
so-called
for impaling its victims on thorns
before devouring them.
693
00:54:19,406 --> 00:54:21,976
Peter Gabriel came to my studio
at home
694
00:54:21,976 --> 00:54:26,906
and he tried to sing
as closely as he possibly could
695
00:54:26,906 --> 00:54:28,736
to, um, the butcher bird song.
696
00:54:28,736 --> 00:54:32,336
So what we'd do was take
each phrase and loop it up,
697
00:54:32,336 --> 00:54:38,196
so the butcher bird would be heard
12 times, and he'd just
sing and sing and sing
698
00:54:38,196 --> 00:54:40,266
until he'd learnt the little melody
699
00:54:40,266 --> 00:54:43,546
and got as close as possibly
he could to the exact melody.
700
00:54:43,546 --> 00:54:48,757
And then we'd edit together
something that was exactly
the same. So from this...
701
00:54:53,066 --> 00:54:55,739
.. we ended up with him...
702
00:55:04,356 --> 00:55:06,466
What Peter really wanted
703
00:55:06,466 --> 00:55:11,906
was us to put a process on it where,
rather than him just singing along
704
00:55:11,906 --> 00:55:14,996
exactly with the bird,
he wants it to sound
705
00:55:14,996 --> 00:55:21,936
as if his voice is slowly morphing
and changing into the sound of
the butcher bird and back again.
706
00:55:21,936 --> 00:55:24,896
We haven't done that yet.
That's tomorrow's job,
707
00:55:24,896 --> 00:55:28,081
and it will be fairly difficult,
I think, to achieve that.
708
00:55:33,986 --> 00:55:38,536
David will add his own contribution
to the bird composition
in a few days' time.
709
00:55:38,536 --> 00:55:42,986
But in the meantime, in Germany,
his moment of truth has arrived.
710
00:55:42,986 --> 00:55:46,505
All year, David's ideas on birdsong
and its musical qualities
711
00:55:46,505 --> 00:55:50,965
have been ruffling the feathers
of the world's
leading avian scientists.
712
00:55:50,965 --> 00:55:54,195
Now, they've flocked to Berlin
for a conference.
713
00:55:54,195 --> 00:55:59,165
There's one big question
that I hope to talk to
some of these scientists about.
714
00:55:59,165 --> 00:56:03,765
Very few scientists
have taken seriously the question
of what birds are singing.
715
00:56:03,765 --> 00:56:09,295
Why do so many birds sing
elaborate, very beautiful,
musically constructed songs,
716
00:56:09,295 --> 00:56:13,375
when what they're trying to do
with these songs
is something rather simple -
717
00:56:13,375 --> 00:56:15,905
attract mates, defend territories?
718
00:56:15,905 --> 00:56:21,245
They'd be a lot better off
using some simple, clear song.
719
00:56:21,245 --> 00:56:25,515
It's the last day of the conference
and in Berlin's botanical gardens,
720
00:56:25,515 --> 00:56:28,045
it's high noon for David.
721
00:56:28,045 --> 00:56:34,275
Three of the world's leading avian
scientists have reluctantly agreed
to meet him. Between them,
722
00:56:34,275 --> 00:56:38,075
they have 97 years' experience
studying birdsong.
723
00:56:38,075 --> 00:56:43,135
Do you think that a musician has any
role to help understand birdsong?
724
00:56:43,135 --> 00:56:48,015
Or are we just too human-centred
and misguided to be of any use?
725
00:56:48,015 --> 00:56:49,565
Well?
726
00:56:49,565 --> 00:56:54,485
What do you think? I think
a musician can help to describe
the beauty of birdsong -
727
00:56:54,485 --> 00:56:56,785
describe birdsong
in an artistic sense.
728
00:56:56,785 --> 00:57:01,465
I mean, scientists haven't got a
complete stranglehold on birdsong,
729
00:57:01,465 --> 00:57:05,455
but if you want to understand
birdsong from a scientific
point of view,
730
00:57:05,455 --> 00:57:08,545
you've got to approach it
from a scientific point of view,
731
00:57:08,545 --> 00:57:12,015
and I personally don't really think
that people from the arts
732
00:57:12,015 --> 00:57:16,515
can help us to any great degree
in that endeavour. Well said.
733
00:57:16,515 --> 00:57:20,315
I would not tell an artist
how he should listen to birdsong,
734
00:57:20,315 --> 00:57:23,545
and I think in that same way,
it bothers a little
735
00:57:23,545 --> 00:57:29,875
to have an artist, a musician,
telling us, "Oh, you should be
listening in this way."
736
00:57:29,875 --> 00:57:35,455
But David really isn't telling us
how to listen - he's just making
some unscientific declarations
737
00:57:35,455 --> 00:57:41,035
that insult my birds and indirectly,
you know, that bothers me.
738
00:57:41,035 --> 00:57:45,165
Birds sing because they have to -
they must, this is what it means
to be a bird.
739
00:57:45,165 --> 00:57:48,675
That's a completely tautological
argument, isn't it? Not entirely.
740
00:57:48,675 --> 00:57:53,835
"They must"?! That's no scientific
explanation.
is the same in all these cases,
741
00:57:53,835 --> 00:57:57,865
but the songs are very diverse,
different and interesting
in themselves.
742
00:57:57,865 --> 00:57:59,925
It has...
743
00:57:59,925 --> 00:58:03,255
All behaviour patterns have to work.
Yeah. Song has to work.
744
00:58:03,255 --> 00:58:05,835
But music is a totally
human conception.
745
00:58:05,835 --> 00:58:10,945
I don't understand why you want
to impose this word on something
wonderful like birdsong.
746
00:58:10,945 --> 00:58:14,465
Because it helps...
You then focus on the song itself.
747
00:58:14,465 --> 00:58:18,075
Science focuses on the function
of the song too often,
748
00:58:18,075 --> 00:58:19,665
and not on the song in itself.
749
00:58:19,665 --> 00:58:24,685
I think you're being anthropomorphic.
I don't understand why you want
to use the word music.
750
00:58:24,685 --> 00:58:27,395
Assuming that birds are like people,
751
00:58:27,395 --> 00:58:31,755
in any sort of sense,
is a very dangerous thing to do.
752
00:58:31,755 --> 00:58:37,805
From the evolutionary point of view,
our nearest common ancestor was some
reptile crawling around in sludge!
753
00:58:37,805 --> 00:58:43,335
You're not likely to find anything
in common as far as vocal
communication is concerned.
754
00:58:43,335 --> 00:58:47,225
But I also think
it's anthropomorphic
to count all the parts of the song
755
00:58:47,225 --> 00:58:51,545
and really be so quantifying
about it, and stop there.
756
00:58:51,545 --> 00:58:57,635
If you really want to do science,
you have to count, you have to do
things that are quantitative,
757
00:58:57,635 --> 00:59:01,625
and set up experiments and
hypotheses... Why not count...?
758
00:59:01,625 --> 00:59:05,185
Speculating on the basis of one
or two animals is not interesting.
759
00:59:05,185 --> 00:59:07,715
Why not count the rhythms,
the shape, the form -
760
00:59:07,715 --> 00:59:10,995
not just the number of differences?
That's just the beginning.
761
00:59:10,995 --> 00:59:14,415
Scientists don't like it when
non-scientists criticise them.
762
00:59:14,415 --> 00:59:19,435
They say, "How dare you?
We're not musicians,
we're not going to criticise music.
763
00:59:19,435 --> 00:59:24,875
"You should leave us scientists
alone. We have enough problems! This
work's hard enough to do as it is,
764
00:59:24,875 --> 00:59:27,125
"and you're making it
more difficult."
765
00:59:27,125 --> 00:59:30,215
I think this is thoroughly wacky.
Wacky? Thoroughly.
766
00:59:30,215 --> 00:59:38,425
Do you think most birds would
imitate or respond to human beings
who would whistle to them?
767
00:59:38,425 --> 00:59:43,015
If you say the birds are responding
to music as a special sound,
special human sound,
768
00:59:43,015 --> 00:59:45,785
as a scientist I step back and say,
"Wait a minute."
769
00:59:45,785 --> 00:59:49,065
You're saying they respond
to a special kind of sound,
770
00:59:49,065 --> 00:59:50,895
but do you have a control sound?
771
00:59:50,895 --> 00:59:54,545
When we wanted to get birds to sing
in the laboratory, we'd try music,
772
00:59:54,545 --> 00:59:59,426
we'd try everything. What
worked was a vacuum cleaner. Turn
the vacuum cleaner on, they sang.
773
01:00:03,265 --> 01:00:06,925
David is a philosopher
and he's a musician.
774
01:00:06,925 --> 01:00:12,695
So he's looking at birdsong
from a very different angle
to your average scientist.
775
01:00:12,695 --> 01:00:16,205
And he has, to my mind, ignored
quite a large body of evidence,
776
01:00:16,205 --> 01:00:17,755
gleaned scientifically,
777
01:00:17,755 --> 01:00:22,625
by people setting up hypotheses
and testing them and being sure
they had good sample sizes,
778
01:00:22,625 --> 01:00:25,205
and doing all the things
us scientists have to do.
779
01:00:25,205 --> 01:00:29,475
We're very cautious people,
scientists. I think
he finds that very frustrating.
780
01:00:29,475 --> 01:00:34,815
Science doesn't have, you know,
the upper hand in figuring out
what birdsong is about.
781
01:00:34,815 --> 01:00:38,475
They have one approach. It picks up
on some things, misses out others.
782
01:00:38,475 --> 01:00:42,555
In a sense, it's science and arts - a
different approach, different angles.
783
01:00:42,555 --> 01:00:46,025
He's an interesting man.
He's got very interesting ideas.
784
01:00:46,025 --> 01:00:47,665
But he's not a scientist.
785
01:00:47,665 --> 01:00:51,455
What would it take for me to become
a scientist? Complete retraining.
786
01:00:51,455 --> 01:00:56,055
Science is the art of collecting
interesting numbers,
787
01:00:56,055 --> 01:00:59,715
and so I would ask you
to collect some numbers,
788
01:00:59,715 --> 01:01:03,645
analyse them, and tell us what
that tells you about the world.
789
01:01:03,645 --> 01:01:08,335
David has failed to convince
the scientists
790
01:01:08,335 --> 01:01:11,525
that his ideas are worth taking
seriously,
791
01:01:11,525 --> 01:01:15,234
and the wall between their world
and his is as high as ever.
792
01:01:20,055 --> 01:01:22,025
# Loving you
793
01:01:22,025 --> 01:01:27,085
# Is easy cos you're beautiful
794
01:01:27,085 --> 01:01:31,685
# Making love with you
795
01:01:31,685 --> 01:01:33,935
# Is all I wanna do
796
01:01:33,935 --> 01:01:36,415
# La-la-la-la-la
797
01:01:36,415 --> 01:01:38,525
# La-la-la-la-la
798
01:01:38,525 --> 01:01:40,545
# La-la-la-la-la... #
799
01:01:40,545 --> 01:01:46,405
Feeling rejected, he's retreated
back to the welcoming embrace
of art - a world free of numbers,
800
01:01:46,405 --> 01:01:49,075
but rich in imagination.
801
01:01:49,075 --> 01:01:53,715
He's agreed to take part
in the ultimate experiment
in anthropomorphism.
802
01:01:53,715 --> 01:01:58,495
He's going to become a song thrush
in an art installation.
803
01:01:58,495 --> 01:02:02,105
The work is to be created
by conceptual artist Marcus Coates.
804
01:02:02,105 --> 01:02:05,905
Coates has dedicated most of his
video and performance installations
805
01:02:05,905 --> 01:02:09,935
to exploring the relationships
between humans and animals.
806
01:02:09,935 --> 01:02:12,325
Now, in his most ambitious work
to date,
807
01:02:12,325 --> 01:02:16,875
he's creating a video
dawn chorus, sung by humans.
808
01:02:16,875 --> 01:02:20,629
David is to be the final bird
in his collection.
809
01:02:30,985 --> 01:02:33,465
I developed this technique,
810
01:02:33,465 --> 01:02:37,175
probably about seven years aho,
811
01:02:37,175 --> 01:02:41,065
of recreating birdsong,
but using human voices.
812
01:02:41,065 --> 01:02:45,655
This is a re-enactment
of a dawn chorus,
813
01:02:45,655 --> 01:02:49,273
where each bird will be sung
by a different singer.
814
01:02:52,075 --> 01:02:55,735
David today will be singing
like a song thrush.
815
01:02:55,735 --> 01:02:59,205
So I'm not like waking up
under covers?
816
01:02:59,205 --> 01:03:01,935
No, I think you're just hanging out
in this dark space.
817
01:03:04,975 --> 01:03:07,785
We've got some fantastic recordings,
818
01:03:07,785 --> 01:03:10,845
and we slowed down the birdsong.
819
01:03:18,945 --> 01:03:20,115
Double-sided...
820
01:03:20,115 --> 01:03:24,705
'They have a little ear piece
and they sing along with it,
and I film them singing this,
821
01:03:24,705 --> 01:03:28,085
'and we speed the film up
to the original bird speed,
822
01:03:28,085 --> 01:03:32,169
'and what you in effect get is
an extremely accurate rendition
of birdsong. '
823
01:03:48,385 --> 01:03:56,395
'We're also using human habitats,
and David has said that he spends
a lot of time in hotels,
824
01:03:56,395 --> 01:03:59,865
'and it's a kind of habitual place
for him. David's sitting here,
825
01:03:59,865 --> 01:04:01,975
'in his underpants -
826
01:04:01,975 --> 01:04:04,512
'he's in a very human environment. '
827
01:04:08,685 --> 01:04:10,645
All right, let's run.
828
01:04:10,645 --> 01:04:13,745
Starting to play... now.
829
01:04:13,745 --> 01:04:21,163
Oh! Oh! Oh-oh-oh...!
830
01:04:26,075 --> 01:04:30,435
'This project is more about, rather
than us projecting our emotions
831
01:04:30,435 --> 01:04:33,295
'and our kind of needs onto birds,
832
01:04:33,295 --> 01:04:37,275
'it's kind of the other way round,
and we are becoming birds.
833
01:04:37,275 --> 01:04:40,135
'And there is that element
in all of us
834
01:04:40,135 --> 01:04:43,135
'that wants to believe
that birds enjoy singing,
835
01:04:43,135 --> 01:04:47,165
'and they're singing because
they're in love, or they're joyous,
836
01:04:47,165 --> 01:04:51,807
'or they're just singing because
they're pleased to be alive. '
837
01:04:59,875 --> 01:05:05,315
'It wasn't just the song that became
very accurate when we sped it up.
838
01:05:05,315 --> 01:05:09,015
'Also, the people's
movements and their mannerisms -
839
01:05:09,015 --> 01:05:12,905
'it's almost as if,
if you sped humans up ten times,
840
01:05:12,905 --> 01:05:15,305
'they'd become much more like birds. '
841
01:05:28,935 --> 01:05:34,895
David's experience of being a bird
and his brush-off from the science
world has drawn him back
842
01:05:34,895 --> 01:05:39,115
to what ignited his passion
in the first place -
duetting with living birds.
843
01:05:39,115 --> 01:05:41,035
At the Bronx Zoo in New York,
844
01:05:41,035 --> 01:05:44,505
he's recruited another artist
inspired by birdsong.
845
01:05:44,505 --> 01:05:48,585
Like David, musician Michael Pestel
has a bit of previous,
846
01:05:48,585 --> 01:05:50,928
duetting with birds.
847
01:05:55,005 --> 01:05:59,695
On this occasion, Pestel has
brought along his pride and joy -
848
01:05:59,695 --> 01:06:01,765
the Bird Machine.
849
01:06:01,765 --> 01:06:03,915
The Bird Machine
is an evolving project.
850
01:06:03,915 --> 01:06:06,825
It's never really finished.
851
01:06:06,825 --> 01:06:10,056
In fact, each time I play it,
it's slightly different.
852
01:06:12,825 --> 01:06:17,465
The core of this instrument is
a recorder - a bass recorder in C -
853
01:06:17,465 --> 01:06:22,435
which is designed according to
the square design of organ pipes -
854
01:06:22,435 --> 01:06:25,295
Renaissance organ pipes.
855
01:06:25,295 --> 01:06:27,923
BURBLING MUSIC WITH WHISTLES
856
01:06:38,935 --> 01:06:45,025
Other sounds are, you know,
your generic seagull...
857
01:06:45,025 --> 01:06:47,935
SQUAWKING
858
01:06:47,935 --> 01:06:49,857
.. European blackbird...
859
01:06:59,465 --> 01:07:02,662
Then you've got the wind wand.
860
01:07:16,905 --> 01:07:23,335
Well, of course,
it's always a bit of a hit or miss
when you go into aviaries.
861
01:07:23,335 --> 01:07:25,535
One tries to draw them out,
862
01:07:25,535 --> 01:07:29,483
and in the process,
draw oneself out.
863
01:07:44,005 --> 01:07:47,895
The response is intuitive,
and that's enough for me.
864
01:07:47,895 --> 01:07:52,255
I'm certainly not approaching this
as a scientist.
865
01:07:52,255 --> 01:07:57,887
When there is a dialogue,
it's an intensely satisfying one.
866
01:08:14,565 --> 01:08:18,645
Despite the best efforts of
Michael, David and the Bird Machine,
867
01:08:18,645 --> 01:08:21,695
they've all failed
to get a response.
868
01:08:21,695 --> 01:08:25,725
However, in another part of the zoo,
David has left the best
for himself -
869
01:08:25,725 --> 01:08:27,745
the white-crested laughing thrush,
870
01:08:27,745 --> 01:08:30,885
the bird that inspired him
in Pittsburgh four years ago.
871
01:08:30,885 --> 01:08:34,355
Both the male and female
of this species duet together.
872
01:08:34,355 --> 01:08:37,115
They are the Sonny and Cher
of the bird world,
873
01:08:37,115 --> 01:08:42,745
hopping around the forest floor,
impressing each other
with their vocal gymnastics.
874
01:08:42,745 --> 01:08:45,325
David is hoping
they're up for a threesome.
875
01:08:45,325 --> 01:08:51,415
Unlike most birds, in this species,
the males and females sing together.
876
01:08:51,415 --> 01:08:56,295
They do not use their song
primarily to defend territories
or attract mates,
877
01:08:56,295 --> 01:08:59,805
but the males and females together
use song to establish
878
01:08:59,805 --> 01:09:03,695
connection between each other in the
forest - to sort of collectively
879
01:09:03,695 --> 01:09:07,915
define a pair bond
between the two of them.
880
01:09:07,915 --> 01:09:12,935
So if a clarinet interjects into
the mix, it's not seen as a threat
881
01:09:12,935 --> 01:09:19,465
or a challenge, or something
like that. It's more like,
"Oh, another sound to riff off of."
882
01:09:49,785 --> 01:09:54,985
I think it's very easy to get birds
to react to human noises.
883
01:09:54,985 --> 01:09:58,315
I can make woodpeckers drum
by clicking my tongue.
884
01:09:58,315 --> 01:10:01,925
If you whistle at a bird
at the right frequency,
885
01:10:01,925 --> 01:10:05,725
it's going to reply, because it's
a frequency its own species uses.
886
01:10:05,725 --> 01:10:09,325
And I think many birds
are rhythmical
in the sounds they produce.
887
01:10:09,325 --> 01:10:11,815
Many birds produce very pure tones,
888
01:10:11,815 --> 01:10:15,565
which is why David would want
to call them musical.
889
01:10:15,565 --> 01:10:19,125
And then he can then imitate
those sounds, to some extent,
890
01:10:19,125 --> 01:10:21,475
with his musical instruments,
891
01:10:21,475 --> 01:10:25,696
and the net result is you start
getting a duet between him
and the bird.
892
01:10:50,255 --> 01:10:53,205
# Why do birds
893
01:10:53,205 --> 01:10:56,495
# Suddenly appear
894
01:10:56,495 --> 01:11:00,525
# Every time you are near...? #
895
01:11:00,525 --> 01:11:05,065
So perhaps David has simply been
conducting an exercise
in call and response.
896
01:11:05,065 --> 01:11:10,785
Without convincing evidence,
the scientists will never
take him seriously.
897
01:11:10,785 --> 01:11:13,695
But while he's been travelling
the world,
898
01:11:13,695 --> 01:11:15,855
a scientific paper
has been published
899
01:11:15,855 --> 01:11:19,848
that might actually support his
belief in a pleasure principle
for birdsong.
900
01:11:21,811 --> 01:11:24,291
On the 30th August 2006,
901
01:11:24,291 --> 01:11:27,811
Professor Erich Jarvis of
Duke University, North Carolina,
902
01:11:27,811 --> 01:11:30,671
published a paper
in the Journal of Neuroscience.
903
01:11:30,671 --> 01:11:35,681
It revealed important
chemical changes taking place
in the brains of zebra finches.
904
01:11:35,681 --> 01:11:37,651
Jarvis had actually found evidence
905
01:11:37,651 --> 01:11:40,981
that dopamine,
the so-called pleasure molecule,
906
01:11:40,981 --> 01:11:43,711
is released when they sing.
907
01:11:44,731 --> 01:11:48,341
We know that in the mammalian brain,
in our own brain as well,
908
01:11:48,341 --> 01:11:51,951
there's a molecule called dopamine
that is released
909
01:11:51,951 --> 01:11:56,171
into certain areas of the brain
during pleasurable experiences -
910
01:11:56,171 --> 01:12:00,151
during dancing, singing, even sex
and so forth, or eating good food.
911
01:12:00,151 --> 01:12:02,871
And that causes addiction
to these things.
912
01:12:02,871 --> 01:12:05,731
And what we discovered
is that when birds sing,
913
01:12:05,731 --> 01:12:09,061
that causes dopamine release
into these similar brain areas.
914
01:12:09,061 --> 01:12:11,831
There are seven brain areas
in birds
915
01:12:11,831 --> 01:12:15,771
that appear to be important
for vocal learning and production.
916
01:12:15,771 --> 01:12:17,781
It was in one of these, area X,
917
01:12:17,781 --> 01:12:21,251
that Erich and his team recorded
a rise in the level of dopamine
918
01:12:21,251 --> 01:12:23,031
when his zebra finches sang.
919
01:12:23,031 --> 01:12:29,031
They seemed to be enjoying all
their singing, but particularly
when directed to females.
920
01:12:29,031 --> 01:12:31,661
You've discovered a molecule
that proves this?
921
01:12:31,661 --> 01:12:36,531
We've discovered... No, I'm not
going to say proves it...
Suggests, exactly.
922
01:12:36,531 --> 01:12:40,101
Dopamine has been proposed to be
involved in a number of functions,
923
01:12:40,101 --> 01:12:43,521
including learning, timing of
a brain system, and so forth.
924
01:12:43,521 --> 01:12:46,751
One of the hypotheses out there,
and it's a strong one,
925
01:12:46,751 --> 01:12:51,071
is that it's involved in reinforcing
systems and reinforcing feelings.
926
01:12:51,071 --> 01:12:54,351
And particularly
pleasurable feelings.
927
01:12:54,351 --> 01:12:57,301
And has this been studied
in other animals? Yeah.
928
01:12:57,301 --> 01:13:03,441
It's already been found...?Yeah,
so actually the brain system in
the animal studied the most, rats,
929
01:13:03,441 --> 01:13:08,181
where it's for drug
addiction, it's most known
that you give rats cocaine,
930
01:13:08,181 --> 01:13:11,742
you get these
huge dopamine releases
931
01:13:11,742 --> 01:13:14,462
that then makes them become addicted
to the cocaine.
932
01:13:14,462 --> 01:13:19,801
That's how we've thought we become
addicted to cocaine. So you generate
more pleasure from the drug,
933
01:13:19,801 --> 01:13:23,742
and so this could be just
the birds' natural way of doing it.
934
01:13:23,742 --> 01:13:26,551
So you think birds
might be addicted to singing?
935
01:13:26,551 --> 01:13:32,081
Yeah, that's right. That's
a possibility. Could be a more
healthy addiction! That's right.
936
01:13:32,081 --> 01:13:36,071
Does that mean birds sing
for the same reasons humans sing?
937
01:13:36,071 --> 01:13:39,021
Um... if you ask that question
938
01:13:39,021 --> 01:13:43,991
to a bunch of different biologists,
you'll get different answers.
939
01:13:43,991 --> 01:13:46,851
And so I can only give you my answer,
940
01:13:46,851 --> 01:13:49,431
which is I do think that birds sing,
941
01:13:49,431 --> 01:13:53,182
in part, for a similar reason
why humans sing - for pleasure.
942
01:13:53,182 --> 01:13:58,671
# Ah-aa-aa-aah... #
943
01:13:58,671 --> 01:14:03,351
David at last found
an acknowledgement from the
science world, that birds might,
944
01:14:03,351 --> 01:14:09,261
perhaps, given the right conditions
and the presence of a female bird,
945
01:14:09,261 --> 01:14:14,561
possibly sing because...
yes, they enjoy it.
946
01:14:14,561 --> 01:14:18,031
# Aah-aa-aa-aah... #
947
01:14:18,031 --> 01:14:21,681
In the end, this is always
going to be a standoff.
948
01:14:21,681 --> 01:14:25,342
But even if David's idea will never
take wing in the lecture hall,
949
01:14:25,342 --> 01:14:27,961
it has come home to roost
in the recording studio.
950
01:14:27,961 --> 01:14:32,371
Now at the end of his journey, he is
to join up with Simon and Richard
951
01:14:32,371 --> 01:14:34,291
at Real World Studios,
952
01:14:34,291 --> 01:14:38,471
to add his contribution
to their human-bird composition.
953
01:14:38,471 --> 01:14:42,171
The birds have played their part,
in the form of the rhythm track.
954
01:14:42,171 --> 01:14:46,291
Now David is to provide
the first human element,
playing his bass clarinet,
955
01:14:46,291 --> 01:14:50,371
along with Kate St John
on cor anglais.
956
01:14:50,371 --> 01:14:53,101
MUSIC STARTS
957
01:15:29,801 --> 01:15:31,632
That was cool!
958
01:15:47,801 --> 01:15:52,500
And finally, Simon has recruited
the band Guillemots
to play on the track.
959
01:15:55,161 --> 01:15:59,991
It's one of the most natural forms
of music you could imagine,
960
01:15:59,991 --> 01:16:04,071
and I've always been... I've played
music since I can remember,
961
01:16:04,071 --> 01:16:06,181
but because I've got a musical ear,
962
01:16:06,181 --> 01:16:09,831
I always find it fairly easy
to identify birdsongs,
963
01:16:09,831 --> 01:16:12,551
so from quite early on,
I've been listening out
964
01:16:12,551 --> 01:16:15,791
to different birdsongs.
965
01:16:15,791 --> 01:16:19,911
Now, at this point, we can
go off into you guys. Yeah.
966
01:16:19,911 --> 01:16:24,181
At the moment,
it goes to quite a formal reel...
967
01:16:24,181 --> 01:16:27,371
'Absolutely no idea
what they're gonna do.
968
01:16:27,371 --> 01:16:32,621
'What you're seeing today is very
much kind of edge-of-the-seat stuff.
969
01:16:32,621 --> 01:16:36,371
'We haven't had any rehearsals.
We're just seeing what happens. '
970
01:16:36,371 --> 01:16:40,262
Is that the corncrake there?
Yeah, the corncrake...
971
01:16:43,262 --> 01:16:45,881
I really believe
972
01:16:45,881 --> 01:16:50,101
birdsong IS music, and that
conclusion has been reinforced
973
01:16:50,101 --> 01:16:55,021
and pushed a little further by
meeting all these interesting
people and working with them,
974
01:16:55,021 --> 01:17:00,041
and I think making music this way
hopefully makes one less selfish,
975
01:17:00,041 --> 01:17:01,731
and a better listener.
976
01:17:01,731 --> 01:17:04,261
I'm responding to the environment,
977
01:17:04,261 --> 01:17:07,401
really interacting
with the world around.
978
01:17:07,401 --> 01:17:09,561
All right, I'm ready.
979
01:17:09,561 --> 01:17:11,391
OK. Here we go.
980
01:17:11,391 --> 01:17:13,211
Good luck, studio.
981
01:18:18,891 --> 01:18:22,221
Subtitles by Judith Russell
Red Bee Media Ltd 2007
982
01:18:22,221 --> 01:18:25,031
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