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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,767 --> 00:00:02,767 (beeps) 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,333 (upbeat acoustic music) 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 5 00:00:56,633 --> 00:01:00,200 (radio crackling) 6 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,633 - I was given the choice of going to reenlisting 7 00:01:03,633 --> 00:01:07,067 and becoming an officer and being this weather observer, 8 00:01:07,067 --> 00:01:08,300 the duty weather observer, 9 00:01:08,300 --> 00:01:11,333 for my entire career out in the ranges. 10 00:01:11,333 --> 00:01:13,667 Or if I elected to go to Vietnam, 11 00:01:13,667 --> 00:01:17,067 they would send me to Cameron Bay which was one of 12 00:01:17,067 --> 00:01:19,400 the nicest places to get sent to 13 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,133 because you weren't really under fire or anything. 14 00:01:23,133 --> 00:01:25,133 And then when I got back I 15 00:01:25,133 --> 00:01:27,600 would only have two and a half months left on my enlistment 16 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,300 so I would be discharged and I could go home. 17 00:01:30,300 --> 00:01:32,933 And since I was quite homesick at the time, 18 00:01:32,933 --> 00:01:36,400 I decided to take Vietnam. 19 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,067 I was expecting to get sent to Cameron Bay 20 00:01:40,067 --> 00:01:44,500 and to have a pretty easy rester after all 21 00:01:44,500 --> 00:01:47,333 the stuff I'd been through out on the ranges. 22 00:01:47,333 --> 00:01:51,333 Well when I got to Vietnam, you always have 23 00:01:51,333 --> 00:01:56,067 to check into the country at Tan Son Nhut, next to Saigon. 24 00:01:58,133 --> 00:02:00,267 And then the night before I got there, 25 00:02:00,267 --> 00:02:01,800 the Communists had attacked 26 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,900 the airbase at Binh Thuy in the Delta, 27 00:02:04,900 --> 00:02:08,733 a South Vietnamese Air Base with some Americans there. 28 00:02:08,733 --> 00:02:10,667 It's on the Mekong River just 29 00:02:10,667 --> 00:02:14,133 a few miles upstream from Can Tho, 30 00:02:14,133 --> 00:02:17,233 South Vietnam's second-largest city. 31 00:02:17,233 --> 00:02:20,333 And one of the American observers had been killed 32 00:02:20,333 --> 00:02:22,567 and some other Americans had been killed. 33 00:02:22,567 --> 00:02:25,333 And I got there and the sergeant looked at my orders 34 00:02:25,333 --> 00:02:28,067 and he said to me well, I showed him my orders, 35 00:02:28,067 --> 00:02:29,567 I'm going to Cameron Bay. 36 00:02:29,567 --> 00:02:31,900 And he said to me, he said, "Well, you look to me, 37 00:02:31,900 --> 00:02:33,933 "Airman Hall, like a man that knows how 38 00:02:33,933 --> 00:02:37,200 "to take care of himself when things get pretty rough." 39 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,167 And I said, "Yeah." 40 00:02:40,167 --> 00:02:42,167 So he tore my orders and said, 41 00:02:42,167 --> 00:02:45,200 "And I'm sending you to Binh Thuy in the Delta." 42 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,800 And I said, "Wait, wait, there's a whole busload of them. 43 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,667 "I'll go get a couple, there's men 44 00:02:48,667 --> 00:02:51,533 "that could do it better than me, right?" (laughs) 45 00:02:51,533 --> 00:02:55,100 He typed up my orders and said, "You're going to Binh Thuy." 46 00:02:56,300 --> 00:02:58,867 And I was on the next plane to Binh Thuy. 47 00:02:58,867 --> 00:03:02,167 (upbeat acoustic music) 48 00:03:14,833 --> 00:03:19,267 There was the night I was watching four other guys in 49 00:03:19,267 --> 00:03:23,500 their undershirts, they weren't even in combat-dressed, 50 00:03:23,500 --> 00:03:26,300 running across the square and 51 00:03:26,300 --> 00:03:29,300 the shells landing in among them and killing them. 52 00:03:29,300 --> 00:03:31,267 I was in full combat dress and I was at 53 00:03:31,267 --> 00:03:34,233 the entrance to the bunker and I didn't run out 54 00:03:34,233 --> 00:03:37,900 to help them which took tremendous, and I just, 55 00:03:37,900 --> 00:03:41,600 if I had, I'd have been killed. 56 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,167 (somber music) 57 00:03:51,133 --> 00:03:54,867 But then I was there when after the shelling stopped. 58 00:03:54,867 --> 00:03:57,867 It might have been that one to help the medics 59 00:03:57,867 --> 00:03:59,067 and the other guys. 60 00:04:00,467 --> 00:04:03,200 I did get injured in Vietnam 61 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,200 but it wasn't due to enemy action. 62 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,733 One night during after one of the attacks, 63 00:04:08,733 --> 00:04:11,300 I was walking across the open area 64 00:04:11,300 --> 00:04:13,400 and they'd dug a hole, they had, 65 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,067 there was a piece of concrete and they'd dug 66 00:04:15,067 --> 00:04:18,333 a hole in the concrete to put up some stuff. 67 00:04:18,333 --> 00:04:19,667 And it wasn't marked. 68 00:04:19,667 --> 00:04:21,667 And in the rain I accidentally stepped in 69 00:04:21,667 --> 00:04:24,467 the concrete hole and ripped open 70 00:04:24,467 --> 00:04:28,200 the skin over the shin on my left leg, 71 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,800 a three corner kind of tear, 72 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,400 but it didn't do any damage. 73 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,167 It didn't cut any muscles or anything, 74 00:04:34,167 --> 00:04:36,867 but it opened it to the bone. 75 00:04:36,867 --> 00:04:40,300 And the only medic we had was the dentist. 76 00:04:40,300 --> 00:04:42,733 And when I went off to the dentist, 77 00:04:42,733 --> 00:04:46,467 he said it needed 13 stitches. 78 00:04:46,467 --> 00:04:51,467 And he only had two shots of Novocaine 79 00:04:52,667 --> 00:04:54,167 and he didn't want to waste 'em on me 80 00:04:54,167 --> 00:04:57,367 because South Vietnamese soldiers had taken serious injuries 81 00:04:57,367 --> 00:04:58,867 and he needed them for them 82 00:04:58,867 --> 00:05:01,333 because he couldn't get any more til 'the morning came 83 00:05:01,333 --> 00:05:03,800 and the American planes would deliver him. 84 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,800 So he said that he needed to sew up that tear, 13 stitches, 85 00:05:12,067 --> 00:05:14,433 and I wouldn't with no Novocaine, okay? 86 00:05:15,633 --> 00:05:19,900 And I asked him, I said, "Is it okay if I scream 87 00:05:19,900 --> 00:05:23,267 "when you do it because it's gonna be painful?" 88 00:05:23,267 --> 00:05:25,567 And he laughed, he was a captain. 89 00:05:25,567 --> 00:05:27,667 And he looked at me, he understood me. 90 00:05:27,667 --> 00:05:28,933 I had three stripes. 91 00:05:28,933 --> 00:05:30,833 He said, "Yeah, go ahead and scream all you want 92 00:05:30,833 --> 00:05:33,400 "but see how close in the Communists are, 93 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,300 "they're right out there in that tree line. 94 00:05:36,300 --> 00:05:37,533 "They're sure to hear it. 95 00:05:37,533 --> 00:05:38,767 "It'll give him them a good laugh. 96 00:05:38,767 --> 00:05:39,567 "Go on scream, and let them laugh, right?" 97 00:05:39,567 --> 00:05:41,133 And I was so bullheaded. 98 00:05:41,133 --> 00:05:42,867 I said, "I'd die before I let 99 00:05:42,867 --> 00:05:45,200 "the Communists laugh at me screaming." 100 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,067 And I just stood there, bullheaded Englishman, 101 00:05:48,067 --> 00:05:53,067 English kind of person I am and he put in all 13 stitches. 102 00:05:54,467 --> 00:05:55,800 I said, "But it's okay if I count them, isn't it?" 103 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,833 He said yeah and we counted together. 104 00:05:57,833 --> 00:06:01,400 I still remember 11, 12, 13, 105 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,767 and I still have the scar on my left leg today. 106 00:06:04,767 --> 00:06:09,600 And then my left, lower left leg swelled up 'til 107 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,600 I could just barely put on my fatigue pants. 108 00:06:16,067 --> 00:06:18,100 And a couple days later when, or three days later 109 00:06:18,100 --> 00:06:21,300 when he had Novocaine and the medication he needed, 110 00:06:21,300 --> 00:06:23,100 I went over there and I said do you have something 111 00:06:23,100 --> 00:06:25,467 to kill the pain because it aches a lot? 112 00:06:25,467 --> 00:06:27,967 And of course he only had a limited supply. 113 00:06:27,967 --> 00:06:30,333 The captain still had that sense of humor. 114 00:06:30,333 --> 00:06:32,833 He said, "Yeah but remember when you take it, 115 00:06:32,833 --> 00:06:35,700 "it'll make the food in the chow hall taste bad." 116 00:06:35,700 --> 00:06:37,433 And I thought I was gonna die laughing 117 00:06:37,433 --> 00:06:39,067 because it already tasted so bad. 118 00:06:39,067 --> 00:06:42,467 I said forget that noise, if it tastes any worse, 119 00:06:42,467 --> 00:06:43,900 I won't be able to take it. 120 00:06:43,900 --> 00:06:47,067 And so I did it all without painkiller or anything 121 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,967 and we were sitting there laughing our guts out. 122 00:06:50,967 --> 00:06:54,300 (upbeat acoustic music) 123 00:07:02,167 --> 00:07:07,167 In Vietnam, the night I was in the tower and it was raining 124 00:07:07,167 --> 00:07:09,100 and the Communists attacked and there was 125 00:07:09,100 --> 00:07:12,067 a South Vietnamese, with mortars only, 126 00:07:12,067 --> 00:07:14,400 and there was a South Vietnamese soldier standing down at 127 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,133 the base of my weather tower and the control tower 128 00:07:18,133 --> 00:07:20,833 which was the same tower next to one of 129 00:07:20,833 --> 00:07:23,700 the South Vietnamese aircraft. 130 00:07:23,700 --> 00:07:28,700 And a shell, a mortar shell, landed directly next to him 131 00:07:29,900 --> 00:07:31,533 and it was in the rain and exploded. 132 00:07:31,533 --> 00:07:33,867 There's no flash with a mortar shell, 133 00:07:33,867 --> 00:07:36,100 it just looks like a smoke bomb. 134 00:07:36,100 --> 00:07:37,933 And the shrapnel killed him. 135 00:07:37,933 --> 00:07:39,767 He dropped instantly. 136 00:07:39,767 --> 00:07:41,700 And although I was in the tower above him, 137 00:07:41,700 --> 00:07:44,633 it had wooden sides and stuff so it stopped, 138 00:07:44,633 --> 00:07:46,833 and a wooden floor, and it stopped the shrapnel. 139 00:07:46,833 --> 00:07:49,067 So it didn't blow off any wind. 140 00:07:49,067 --> 00:07:50,967 There's no concussion with the mortar shell 141 00:07:50,967 --> 00:07:55,967 and none of the glass or anything was harmed. 142 00:07:57,367 --> 00:08:00,733 And so as I looked there it looked like he was play acting. 143 00:08:00,733 --> 00:08:02,100 It looked like he was an actor 144 00:08:02,100 --> 00:08:05,067 and he wasn't very good, okay? 145 00:08:05,067 --> 00:08:07,367 It looked like he just crumpled. 146 00:08:08,367 --> 00:08:10,133 I thought he was play acting. 147 00:08:10,133 --> 00:08:12,667 I thought, since we were friends and he knew I was watching, 148 00:08:12,667 --> 00:08:16,700 that he was just trying to fun with me, the way soldiers do. 149 00:08:16,700 --> 00:08:19,300 And it was so new, it was one of 150 00:08:19,300 --> 00:08:21,267 the first mortar attacks I was in, 151 00:08:21,267 --> 00:08:24,200 I didn't realize we were being fired on. 152 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,067 I thought it was funny, the way he acted. 153 00:08:28,067 --> 00:08:31,233 And he just laid there and I kept saying come on, get up, 154 00:08:31,233 --> 00:08:33,400 but I was like 40 feet above him inside 155 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,300 and so I kept saying to myself come on, get up. 156 00:08:36,300 --> 00:08:39,567 And he wouldn't, there was no movement. 157 00:08:39,567 --> 00:08:43,133 So almost laughing after the all clear sounded, 158 00:08:43,133 --> 00:08:47,067 I went out of the tower and I went down the stairs 159 00:08:47,067 --> 00:08:50,633 and all the time I was saying come on Tadakis, 160 00:08:50,633 --> 00:08:52,133 come on, get up. 161 00:08:52,133 --> 00:08:56,067 And then I walked over to him where he was still laying in 162 00:08:56,067 --> 00:08:58,167 the water, his body was. 163 00:08:58,167 --> 00:09:00,067 And if you looked at him, 164 00:09:00,067 --> 00:09:02,800 it looked like he had hadn't been touched. 165 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,900 It looked like he had just been standing next 166 00:09:04,900 --> 00:09:06,867 to a smoke bomb. 167 00:09:06,867 --> 00:09:08,867 And I said come on, come on, get up. 168 00:09:08,867 --> 00:09:11,633 And so I was gonna nudge him up with my boot. 169 00:09:11,633 --> 00:09:16,633 And I went to turn him over and his body turned over 170 00:09:18,067 --> 00:09:19,867 and you could see, on the other side of his face, 171 00:09:19,867 --> 00:09:22,300 the shrapnel, all that little stuff, 172 00:09:22,300 --> 00:09:26,933 had totally blown away half of his face, okay? 173 00:09:26,933 --> 00:09:28,600 I wasn't ready for it. 174 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,867 And I spent the next two hours vomiting my guts out down in 175 00:09:31,867 --> 00:09:34,500 the irrigation channel. 176 00:09:34,500 --> 00:09:38,067 But my brain wouldn't let me remember that for years 177 00:09:38,067 --> 00:09:41,233 because it was protecting me from the shock. 178 00:09:41,233 --> 00:09:43,500 Once you become afraid, see, 179 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:46,133 your brain is the organ of your body, 180 00:09:46,133 --> 00:09:49,433 and I speak from direct experience, 181 00:09:49,433 --> 00:09:53,067 it will do anything to protect you. 182 00:09:53,067 --> 00:09:56,067 Including give you tunnel vision 183 00:09:56,067 --> 00:09:59,300 and not let you see what's off to the side. 184 00:09:59,300 --> 00:10:02,400 (somber piano music) 185 00:11:00,433 --> 00:11:02,967 (gentle music) 186 00:11:12,500 --> 00:11:16,467 July 20th, 1964, I enlisted in the US Air Force. 187 00:11:16,467 --> 00:11:19,433 And I did 13 weeks of basic training 188 00:11:19,433 --> 00:11:23,800 at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas. 189 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,533 The military gives you a large number of tests 190 00:11:33,533 --> 00:11:35,700 to see what you might be good at. 191 00:11:35,700 --> 00:11:37,367 I got a perfect score in that, 192 00:11:37,367 --> 00:11:39,700 better than the test had ever seen. 193 00:11:39,700 --> 00:11:44,300 And I got the Air Force record for math ability. 194 00:11:44,300 --> 00:11:46,833 I got one wrong out of 500. 195 00:11:46,833 --> 00:11:49,933 And so they were very impressed with me. 196 00:11:49,933 --> 00:11:52,867 And when they came around with the wish list, 197 00:11:52,867 --> 00:11:54,167 as I was graduating, 198 00:11:54,167 --> 00:11:56,500 I had best grades of anybody in my class. 199 00:11:56,500 --> 00:11:58,433 And they said where do you wanna get sent? 200 00:11:58,433 --> 00:12:01,900 And I put in maybe Germany or England 201 00:12:01,900 --> 00:12:05,067 and the sergeant said no, I understand you're getting sent 202 00:12:05,067 --> 00:12:07,900 to Nellis, they want you there. 203 00:12:07,900 --> 00:12:10,300 And so when my orders came through, 204 00:12:10,300 --> 00:12:13,333 it was for Nellis Air Base here in Las Vegas, Nevada. 205 00:12:15,433 --> 00:12:18,100 The very night I got there, they were holding 206 00:12:18,100 --> 00:12:21,100 a birthday party, ordinarily enlisted men 207 00:12:21,100 --> 00:12:22,500 are not allowed in the officer's club but 208 00:12:22,500 --> 00:12:24,433 the major whose having his birthday party 209 00:12:24,433 --> 00:12:26,733 could do anything he wanted. 210 00:12:26,733 --> 00:12:31,267 Those chief observers said to me not everybody's here. 211 00:12:31,267 --> 00:12:35,067 The duty range observer, he's not here tonight. 212 00:12:35,067 --> 00:12:36,933 And one of the other guys who became one 213 00:12:36,933 --> 00:12:38,633 of my very good friends was laughing 214 00:12:38,633 --> 00:12:43,367 and said maybe he's out partying with Range Four Harry. 215 00:12:43,367 --> 00:12:46,067 I thought they were just trying to scare me. 216 00:12:46,067 --> 00:12:47,967 New guy, you always tell him a few stories 217 00:12:47,967 --> 00:12:49,500 and see if you can frighten them 218 00:12:49,500 --> 00:12:51,433 and get to know them and stuff. 219 00:12:51,433 --> 00:12:53,500 And so I didn't pay any attention. 220 00:12:53,500 --> 00:12:57,133 And then this lady who was about 40 or so, 221 00:12:57,133 --> 00:12:59,733 she looked really ancient because I was 20, 222 00:12:59,733 --> 00:13:01,267 came over and asked me to dance. 223 00:13:01,267 --> 00:13:03,833 And I'd had a couple of beers and I said no, 224 00:13:03,833 --> 00:13:06,900 I don't want to dance with you because you're too old. 225 00:13:06,900 --> 00:13:09,133 And she got really upset and huff stomped off. 226 00:13:09,133 --> 00:13:13,067 The next morning, the chief observer called me in 227 00:13:13,067 --> 00:13:15,067 and he said that was the major's wife 228 00:13:15,067 --> 00:13:16,867 and you really offended her. 229 00:13:16,867 --> 00:13:20,467 All of us danced with her and don't expect 230 00:13:20,467 --> 00:13:23,700 to get promoted 'cause the major, you offended his wife. 231 00:13:23,700 --> 00:13:25,767 The next day, Monday morning, the major, 232 00:13:25,767 --> 00:13:29,167 when I got to work, he was so stern. 233 00:13:29,167 --> 00:13:33,467 He called me in his office, closed and locked the door, 234 00:13:33,467 --> 00:13:35,467 and then he was laughing, he was saying, 235 00:13:35,467 --> 00:13:38,633 "Airman Hall, you're the only man here 236 00:13:38,633 --> 00:13:40,600 "I can trust around my wife. 237 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,367 "All the others want to dance with her and play with her. 238 00:13:43,367 --> 00:13:45,500 "You and I, you belong here." 239 00:13:45,500 --> 00:13:49,567 (laughs) And the joke was on them because the major was, 240 00:13:49,567 --> 00:13:52,400 he was a really nice guy but he got kinda jealous 241 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,833 with all the other younger men dancing with his wife 242 00:13:54,833 --> 00:13:57,233 and he himself didn't dance. 243 00:13:57,233 --> 00:14:01,067 And so it kind of got off to a unusual start. 244 00:14:05,567 --> 00:14:07,800 My friend was explaining it to me. 245 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,600 He told me the legend of Range Four Harry, 246 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,867 and I thought that he was just teasing me, 247 00:14:13,867 --> 00:14:15,567 trying to scare me. 248 00:14:15,567 --> 00:14:17,933 And he said Range Four Harry was 249 00:14:17,933 --> 00:14:22,533 a large white radioactive horse that floated around 250 00:14:22,533 --> 00:14:27,333 the deserts and the dry lake beds in the hot part of summer. 251 00:14:27,333 --> 00:14:29,433 I was laughing so hard I couldn't walk. 252 00:14:29,433 --> 00:14:31,067 I fell down and I was laughing 253 00:14:31,067 --> 00:14:32,633 and I must have laughed for 20 minutes. 254 00:14:32,633 --> 00:14:35,433 I thought these guys are really pulling my leg. 255 00:14:35,433 --> 00:14:39,867 The next day, the weather observer that I was supposed 256 00:14:39,867 --> 00:14:43,467 to replace, he finally arrived in one of the barracks. 257 00:14:43,467 --> 00:14:45,633 He was such a naturally likable guy, 258 00:14:45,633 --> 00:14:47,067 the first time I saw him. 259 00:14:47,067 --> 00:14:49,900 God, I wanted to be him. 260 00:14:49,900 --> 00:14:54,300 He had a convertible, he had a new uniform he'd bought. 261 00:14:54,300 --> 00:14:58,433 I felt ashamed that I was kind of rude and country 262 00:14:58,433 --> 00:15:02,067 and non-polished and so on, because, I mean, 263 00:15:02,067 --> 00:15:04,367 he was from Los Angeles and everything. 264 00:15:04,367 --> 00:15:07,733 And the only thing I'd found odd was 265 00:15:07,733 --> 00:15:12,733 that he didn't seem to know where anything was, okay? 266 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,667 Now he had claimed to have been there for six months, 267 00:15:16,667 --> 00:15:19,867 and this was in the spring of 1965. 268 00:15:19,867 --> 00:15:22,800 And we're talking about a very tiny base. 269 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,067 If you'd been there for six months, 270 00:15:24,067 --> 00:15:25,633 you know where every rock is, right, 271 00:15:25,633 --> 00:15:27,267 you know where every board is. 272 00:15:27,267 --> 00:15:30,100 And so when he took me out to range three, 273 00:15:30,100 --> 00:15:32,067 he wasn't in any hurry to get there. 274 00:15:32,067 --> 00:15:34,800 When he got out there, he marched right up to the door, 275 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,867 there was a padlock on it. 276 00:15:36,867 --> 00:15:39,733 And I was so impressed with his militarism 277 00:15:39,733 --> 00:15:43,567 and he felt all of his pockets and he said, "I don't seem 278 00:15:43,567 --> 00:15:46,133 "to have the key, give me the key." 279 00:15:46,133 --> 00:15:48,567 And I said, "I don't have the key." 280 00:15:48,567 --> 00:15:51,400 He said, "Didn't the cooks give you the key?" 281 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,233 And I wondered what are the cooks doing with 282 00:15:53,233 --> 00:15:54,400 the key to the weather shack, right? 283 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:55,567 I mean, yeah. 284 00:15:55,567 --> 00:15:57,933 I said, "No, I don't have the key." 285 00:15:57,933 --> 00:16:01,433 And he just swiveled smartly on his left heel. 286 00:16:01,433 --> 00:16:03,900 He had me take out a pen and a paper 287 00:16:03,900 --> 00:16:06,567 and he said let's see, the low level winds, 288 00:16:06,567 --> 00:16:09,400 let's see, the ground level winds, what do we say they are? 289 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,633 Out of the southwest at five, okay? 290 00:16:11,633 --> 00:16:15,433 And then he got to the third level, the fourth level winds. 291 00:16:15,433 --> 00:16:17,867 Let's see, they're out of the north at no, no, 292 00:16:17,867 --> 00:16:20,133 let's see, Charlie, they trust you 293 00:16:20,133 --> 00:16:21,900 and we're doing this for the government 294 00:16:21,900 --> 00:16:25,267 so let's make those 4,000-foot winds out of 295 00:16:25,267 --> 00:16:28,133 the southwest at four 'cause four is 296 00:16:28,133 --> 00:16:30,067 the government's number. 297 00:16:30,067 --> 00:16:32,133 Anytime you tell the government anything, 298 00:16:32,133 --> 00:16:34,367 they wanna hear the number four. 299 00:16:34,367 --> 00:16:37,067 And he made them up, and we made up all the winds, 300 00:16:37,067 --> 00:16:40,067 we got in there and I was sitting there in, 301 00:16:40,067 --> 00:16:43,600 kind of in awe of him, this is how it's done. 302 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,967 And then we went over to the chow hall 303 00:16:45,967 --> 00:16:48,333 and he was saying goodbye to all the cooks. 304 00:16:48,333 --> 00:16:51,100 I said those master sergeant told me 305 00:16:51,100 --> 00:16:54,733 that you would show me the other four weather shacks. 306 00:16:54,733 --> 00:16:57,867 And he looked palsied with fear. 307 00:16:59,067 --> 00:17:00,433 Then he and I got back in the truck 308 00:17:00,433 --> 00:17:03,533 and we went back down to the intersection between 309 00:17:03,533 --> 00:17:05,400 the range three and the range one road, 310 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,733 some miles back, and we started 311 00:17:07,733 --> 00:17:10,300 the long drive down to range one. 312 00:17:10,300 --> 00:17:13,833 And at first he was going more or less 40 miles an hour, 313 00:17:13,833 --> 00:17:15,333 they were gravel roads. 314 00:17:15,333 --> 00:17:17,400 He kept driving slower and slower, 315 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,233 and then when we were coming through the mess gate 316 00:17:19,233 --> 00:17:22,333 where it overhangs the road, and you couldn't turn around, 317 00:17:22,333 --> 00:17:23,900 you were committed to going all the way 318 00:17:23,900 --> 00:17:26,433 to the dry lake bed just to turn the truck around, 319 00:17:26,433 --> 00:17:28,600 he kept driving slower and slower 320 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,900 and you could see he was getting more and more afraid. 321 00:17:31,900 --> 00:17:35,300 I was really surprised 'cause when I looked out there, 322 00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:36,867 there was nothing to be seen. 323 00:17:36,867 --> 00:17:39,433 You're looking at the desert in the summertime, sagebrush, 324 00:17:39,433 --> 00:17:44,100 and he'd slowed to low gear and five miles an hour 325 00:17:44,100 --> 00:17:47,067 and it didn't seem like he ever wanted to close. 326 00:17:47,067 --> 00:17:48,767 And I said well, you're gonna have 327 00:17:48,767 --> 00:17:51,867 to turn into range one just to turn the truck around, 328 00:17:51,867 --> 00:17:54,067 because he was shaken with fear. 329 00:17:54,067 --> 00:17:55,700 We got into the graveled area and there was 330 00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:59,233 the control tower for range one and the skip bomb area 331 00:17:59,233 --> 00:18:01,500 and I was expecting him to park the truck 332 00:18:01,500 --> 00:18:04,267 and take me over and unlock the shack. 333 00:18:04,267 --> 00:18:06,333 And he was still sitting there and he had 334 00:18:06,333 --> 00:18:10,067 the truck looking out over the desert to the southeast 335 00:18:10,067 --> 00:18:12,700 and he was shaking in terror. 336 00:18:12,700 --> 00:18:15,467 And he was saying do you see anything? 337 00:18:15,467 --> 00:18:18,133 And I said well, there's nothing to be seen. 338 00:18:18,133 --> 00:18:21,333 And he said it's a hot day, they gotta be out there. 339 00:18:21,333 --> 00:18:22,833 And I said well who's out there? 340 00:18:22,833 --> 00:18:24,900 And I thought maybe he was still putting me on. 341 00:18:24,900 --> 00:18:28,067 And I said you mean Range Four Harry? 342 00:18:28,067 --> 00:18:30,067 And he got really, it was like touching a nerve. 343 00:18:30,067 --> 00:18:32,600 He said no, there's no such thing, honest. 344 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,500 He'd insisted that we'd have all of 345 00:18:34,500 --> 00:18:36,800 the doors on our pickup truck locked. 346 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,533 I said I want to see the inside of the weather shack 347 00:18:39,533 --> 00:18:42,233 and I had to talk him into it. 348 00:18:42,233 --> 00:18:43,700 He said okay but I'll sit here in 349 00:18:43,700 --> 00:18:45,333 the truck with the engine running. 350 00:18:45,333 --> 00:18:47,667 And if I see anything I want you to know 351 00:18:47,667 --> 00:18:51,267 that I'll drive into base and find the range maintenance man 352 00:18:51,267 --> 00:18:52,900 and we'll come back for you. 353 00:18:52,900 --> 00:18:56,367 So if I see anything, just lock yourself in 354 00:18:56,367 --> 00:18:58,400 the weather shack and wait for us, 355 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,600 I promise I won't abandon you. 356 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,767 And I'm thinking god, this thing about scaring 357 00:19:03,767 --> 00:19:06,233 the new guy's kind of gotten out of hand. 358 00:19:06,233 --> 00:19:08,867 I mean, I'm looking out there, all I could hear was 359 00:19:08,867 --> 00:19:12,100 a few meadowlark-like sounds in the sagebrush out there. 360 00:19:12,100 --> 00:19:15,300 So I got out of the truck and I closed it 361 00:19:15,300 --> 00:19:16,600 and he locked the door behind me 362 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,600 and I walked over to the weather shack. 363 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,133 And the range one weather shack, 364 00:19:20,133 --> 00:19:22,633 the door was around on the southeast side. 365 00:19:22,633 --> 00:19:25,967 And so I walked around and I opened up, unlocked it, 366 00:19:25,967 --> 00:19:28,533 and I opened it up and I looked inside. 367 00:19:28,533 --> 00:19:32,233 And I looked in and just scanned, quickly, the log books 368 00:19:32,233 --> 00:19:34,533 while he was, you could see he was almost on 369 00:19:34,533 --> 00:19:36,600 the verge of leaving me out there. 370 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,267 And it was obvious that nobody had been in 371 00:19:39,267 --> 00:19:42,933 the weather shack for like three or four months. 372 00:19:48,333 --> 00:19:51,400 When we got back from what he was showing me, 373 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,533 he was terrified and exhausted and he said to me 374 00:19:55,533 --> 00:19:58,133 that he couldn't spend another night there, 375 00:19:58,133 --> 00:20:00,067 and that I was on my own. 376 00:20:00,067 --> 00:20:04,967 And then he left so I had only one afternoon of training. 377 00:20:05,833 --> 00:20:08,367 And so I was now on my own. 378 00:20:08,367 --> 00:20:10,733 But at first, I didn't pay any attention 379 00:20:10,733 --> 00:20:12,967 when I went out to range three 380 00:20:12,967 --> 00:20:14,733 and I would see the lights up the valley 381 00:20:14,733 --> 00:20:16,933 and they would seem to float. 382 00:20:16,933 --> 00:20:19,133 I remember distinctly one night there was 383 00:20:19,133 --> 00:20:20,933 a group of five of them. 384 00:20:20,933 --> 00:20:23,233 And as they approached in arroyo, 385 00:20:23,233 --> 00:20:27,400 I was expecting them to go down into the arroyo and come up. 386 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,333 And the lights just floated right over the arroyo, 387 00:20:30,333 --> 00:20:33,067 didn't blink or anything. 388 00:20:33,067 --> 00:20:37,367 And I thought well gee, only a helicopter could do that, 389 00:20:37,367 --> 00:20:40,700 but you couldn't hear any helicopter sounds. 390 00:20:42,167 --> 00:20:46,533 And then in the barracks, strange things would happen. 391 00:20:46,533 --> 00:20:50,400 Like I'd go to bed at, say, nine o'clock at night. 392 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,767 And then one night I found myself waking up. 393 00:20:53,767 --> 00:20:56,267 So as I hurried down the center aisle toward 394 00:20:56,267 --> 00:20:57,833 the latrines in the middle, 395 00:20:57,833 --> 00:21:01,067 there was this cubicle off to my right. 396 00:21:01,067 --> 00:21:03,300 And so as I was relieving myself, 397 00:21:03,300 --> 00:21:06,067 it seemed like there was a white lady standing in 398 00:21:06,067 --> 00:21:09,633 the first cubicle with some type 399 00:21:09,633 --> 00:21:12,400 of white squarish weapon in her hands, 400 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,300 standing there like this up against the bunk, 401 00:21:16,300 --> 00:21:19,200 between the bunk and the partition. 402 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,067 And I didn't want to look at her in the mirror. 403 00:21:21,067 --> 00:21:25,267 And so, as I was walking past the entrance to the cubicle, 404 00:21:25,267 --> 00:21:26,800 she was standing there like that 405 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:31,533 and she looked really afraid of me, ready to fire on me. 406 00:21:31,533 --> 00:21:35,500 And I was so shocked, I couldn't think of anything 407 00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:37,333 but just keep walking. 408 00:21:37,333 --> 00:21:42,333 For a dream, I was becoming terrified, it was sinking in. 409 00:21:43,567 --> 00:21:46,200 Yeah, I decided that the safest thing I could do, 410 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:51,167 and I was was to go back to bed and go back to sleep, 411 00:21:52,633 --> 00:21:54,167 and then maybe my brain would get back to normal. 412 00:21:54,167 --> 00:21:56,933 Nobody killed me yet if I'm awake on the morning. 413 00:21:56,933 --> 00:21:58,967 That was the best I could do. 414 00:22:03,567 --> 00:22:06,667 (gentle piano music) 415 00:22:09,333 --> 00:22:11,133 It was a very idyllic, beautiful day 416 00:22:11,133 --> 00:22:13,500 and I was listening to what sounded 417 00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:18,467 like western meadowlarks singing in chorus way down 418 00:22:18,467 --> 00:22:21,967 the valley but I had actually never seen 419 00:22:21,967 --> 00:22:25,933 a western meadowlark bird anywhere out in the ranges 420 00:22:25,933 --> 00:22:27,933 but I would keep hearing the sounds all the time. 421 00:22:27,933 --> 00:22:31,533 And I was looking at the purple sagebrush and stuff, 422 00:22:31,533 --> 00:22:34,133 I thought I saw what looked to be 423 00:22:34,133 --> 00:22:37,667 a little white girl run past one of the openings. 424 00:22:37,667 --> 00:22:39,600 It looked like the sagebrush in the background, 425 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,300 only much much thicker and much taller. 426 00:22:42,300 --> 00:22:44,633 And there were lanes through the sagebrush, 427 00:22:44,633 --> 00:22:49,100 but generally speaking, the sagebrush was more of a maze. 428 00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:52,433 And after a little while, I got a clearer glimpse at 429 00:22:52,433 --> 00:22:55,633 what I was certain was a little lost girl 430 00:22:55,633 --> 00:22:58,400 with chalk white skin running out there. 431 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,867 So I put on my gloves and I got my two canteens of water 432 00:23:01,867 --> 00:23:05,800 and, of course, I always had combat boots and stuff. 433 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,800 And I walked out just to see if I could get a closer look. 434 00:23:11,533 --> 00:23:13,533 Is anyone out there? 435 00:23:13,533 --> 00:23:15,567 Are you a little lost girl? 436 00:23:17,067 --> 00:23:19,233 And then every now and then I would get a glimpse of her. 437 00:23:19,233 --> 00:23:20,867 I could just drop down the sagebrush 438 00:23:20,867 --> 00:23:24,333 and make broad lanes for me to go through. 439 00:23:24,333 --> 00:23:26,433 And as soon as I started doing it, 440 00:23:26,433 --> 00:23:29,967 I noticed that all the meadowlark sounds 441 00:23:29,967 --> 00:23:31,433 that I'd heard coming from down 442 00:23:31,433 --> 00:23:35,067 the valley suddenly moved up the valley quickly. 443 00:23:35,067 --> 00:23:37,367 It just seemed like there was a flock of birds around 444 00:23:37,367 --> 00:23:41,600 and you could hear one off to the sagebrush on my right 445 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,700 and one off to my left, none actually behind me, 446 00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:46,933 but then like an arc around me. 447 00:23:46,933 --> 00:23:49,467 And, of course, it made me a little nervous 448 00:23:49,467 --> 00:23:50,933 but I was determined to make sure 449 00:23:50,933 --> 00:23:52,567 because I would every now 450 00:23:52,567 --> 00:23:54,800 and then would get glimpses of the little girl, 451 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,433 and one of them put out a real shrill sound, 452 00:23:57,433 --> 00:24:00,667 it was off to my right. 453 00:24:00,667 --> 00:24:03,100 And the little girl stopped running 454 00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:05,367 and just stood there in the lane, 455 00:24:05,367 --> 00:24:08,833 out there, some distance away from me, 456 00:24:08,833 --> 00:24:10,700 with sagebrush in between me and her, 457 00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:15,067 and waited for me to break through to where she was. 458 00:24:15,067 --> 00:24:18,600 And so in a very patient and deliberate fashion, 459 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,867 I broke down the sagebrush, made a real nice wide trail 460 00:24:21,867 --> 00:24:24,067 and broke it off until I could get 461 00:24:24,067 --> 00:24:27,367 to the lane where she was and, in effect, 462 00:24:27,367 --> 00:24:30,900 have her trapped in a box canyon and the sagebrush. 463 00:24:30,900 --> 00:24:35,900 No more than from here to, say, where no the camera is. 464 00:24:36,633 --> 00:24:39,733 (gentle piano music) 465 00:24:45,067 --> 00:24:47,500 Don't be afraid, I'm not gonna hurt you. 466 00:24:47,500 --> 00:24:48,933 I'm the weatherman over there, 467 00:24:48,933 --> 00:24:51,567 I just thought you might need to be with your parents. 468 00:24:51,567 --> 00:24:53,200 And I turned around when I looked at her 469 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,367 and I saw that she was a little girl 470 00:24:56,367 --> 00:24:59,700 but she wasn't a human little girl, okay? 471 00:24:59,700 --> 00:25:03,200 And the shock I felt can hardly be described. 472 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,067 I heard all these meadowlark sounds. 473 00:25:05,067 --> 00:25:08,100 I kind of turned around and put my back to her so 474 00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:10,333 that I could control my own fear. 475 00:25:10,333 --> 00:25:14,400 And I kind of started staggering back to my weather shack 476 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,067 and I had to go down through the lanes I had caught. 477 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,067 And I was just saying I'm the weatherman, 478 00:25:20,067 --> 00:25:22,067 I'm over here in the weather shack. 479 00:25:22,067 --> 00:25:24,067 If you need some water, I have it. 480 00:25:24,067 --> 00:25:26,267 If you're lost, just come to where I am 481 00:25:26,267 --> 00:25:28,567 and I'll call the base commander and stuff. 482 00:25:28,567 --> 00:25:33,067 I was coming down the last big wide trail 483 00:25:33,067 --> 00:25:35,467 with sagebrush on both sides 484 00:25:35,467 --> 00:25:37,733 and I wondered if she was following behind me, 485 00:25:37,733 --> 00:25:41,633 and I stopped and turned around slowly 486 00:25:41,633 --> 00:25:44,333 and a sight I'll always remember, 487 00:25:44,333 --> 00:25:47,333 coming, running straight towards me, 488 00:25:47,333 --> 00:25:52,333 not as far away as the car, 50 feet, maybe less, 489 00:25:53,733 --> 00:25:56,633 was one of the Tall White men, Range Four Harry. 490 00:25:56,633 --> 00:26:00,400 He was running down the trail, straight towards me. 491 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,700 And I was stood there like a deer in the headlights. 492 00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:04,800 He could have run right over me, 493 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,533 I was in such shock. 494 00:26:06,533 --> 00:26:09,400 And he got to a cross lane that I had cut 495 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,533 and then he turned quickly into the cross lane 496 00:26:11,533 --> 00:26:13,933 and ducked down behind the sagebrush 497 00:26:13,933 --> 00:26:16,567 and then would peek at me over the sagebrush. 498 00:26:16,567 --> 00:26:21,100 And I was in such shock, I was kind of staggering. 499 00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:24,367 And all I could think was just keep walking. 500 00:26:24,367 --> 00:26:26,867 What you don't know about won't hurt you. 501 00:26:26,867 --> 00:26:29,867 And I just kind of staggered back into my weather shack 502 00:26:29,867 --> 00:26:32,800 at range one and I closed the door 503 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,867 and I just sat there for like a half-hour. 504 00:26:35,867 --> 00:26:38,700 (whimsical music) 505 00:26:52,900 --> 00:26:56,567 One afternoon, god, I'll remember it forever. 506 00:26:56,567 --> 00:27:01,567 It was a hot day and it was like 110 or so out there. 507 00:27:03,067 --> 00:27:05,067 And I was standing in my range three weather shack, 508 00:27:05,067 --> 00:27:07,900 I was inside in the shade and I was talking on 509 00:27:07,900 --> 00:27:10,700 the phone to the Nellis Weather Station, 510 00:27:10,700 --> 00:27:13,233 the wind measurements that I had taken. 511 00:27:13,233 --> 00:27:16,200 And there was a lot of static on the line. 512 00:27:17,533 --> 00:27:19,700 And it seemed like somebody was listening in. 513 00:27:20,833 --> 00:27:23,533 Of course, the guy I was talking, 514 00:27:23,533 --> 00:27:25,067 my friend whom I was talking 515 00:27:25,067 --> 00:27:29,200 to at Nellis, noted the static too, so we hung up. 516 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,333 And with my hand still on the phone I looked out, 517 00:27:32,333 --> 00:27:34,400 straight north, where the theodolite was just 518 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,200 a little bit to the left, and standing out there, 519 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,067 just this side of the theodolite, 520 00:27:39,067 --> 00:27:43,500 just standing there in an ordinary nylon-type ski suit kind 521 00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:47,167 of thing with boots, and she was obviously listening 522 00:27:47,167 --> 00:27:50,100 to what I'd been saying on the telephone, okay? 523 00:27:51,167 --> 00:27:52,433 I wasn't saying anything of importance, 524 00:27:52,433 --> 00:27:53,933 the winds are out of the southwest, 525 00:27:53,933 --> 00:27:56,900 but she was obviously very intently listening. 526 00:27:56,900 --> 00:28:00,533 The bright sunlight reflected off her white suit. 527 00:28:01,933 --> 00:28:05,633 The sunlight was so bright that it hurt my eyes. 528 00:28:05,633 --> 00:28:08,733 The pain was real, the brain doesn't do that. 529 00:28:08,733 --> 00:28:12,800 And therefore the light coming off her suit was real 530 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,500 and therefore she was real, okay? 531 00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:17,700 And this was quite a problem for me 532 00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:19,900 because I kept wanting to think 533 00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:23,200 that whatever I was seeing was just me. 534 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,633 And after a couple three seconds, 535 00:28:25,633 --> 00:28:28,567 she suddenly realized that I was looking back at her 536 00:28:28,567 --> 00:28:31,633 and she took off running towards the northeast corner of 537 00:28:31,633 --> 00:28:34,667 the range three lodge, and once she got just close 538 00:28:34,667 --> 00:28:38,200 to the edge of the corner, she put both feet together 539 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:43,067 and jumped like a baserunner running for second base. 540 00:28:43,067 --> 00:28:46,067 So I decided that I needed to walk over carefully 541 00:28:46,067 --> 00:28:50,300 and see if she was still behind the range three lodge. 542 00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:53,733 And I started walking towards my theodolite, 543 00:28:53,733 --> 00:28:56,400 Range Four Harry himself stood up from 544 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,733 the sagebrush on the bunker road off to my right, 545 00:28:59,733 --> 00:29:02,100 off to the northeast, and just stood 546 00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:04,633 there looking square at me, 547 00:29:04,633 --> 00:29:07,767 wanting me to know that he was there, 548 00:29:07,767 --> 00:29:09,667 that the lady wasn't alone. 549 00:29:10,833 --> 00:29:12,833 And he knew perfectly well what I was thinking 550 00:29:12,833 --> 00:29:15,567 'cause of his electronics and he knew perfectly well 551 00:29:15,567 --> 00:29:18,833 that I understood that if I continued to go 552 00:29:18,833 --> 00:29:21,167 and look around the range three lodge, 553 00:29:21,167 --> 00:29:22,767 he would be behind me. 554 00:29:22,767 --> 00:29:24,500 So I decided, for my own safety, 555 00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:28,067 to just stop there and rest my arms on my theodolite 556 00:29:29,167 --> 00:29:31,167 and wait for the situation to clear. 557 00:29:31,167 --> 00:29:35,200 He was obviously perfectly real and she was perfectly real. 558 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,700 I couldn't accept it emotionally. 559 00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:40,067 And as I stood there, in a few minutes, 560 00:29:40,067 --> 00:29:42,633 five or 10 minutes, I could see the lady 561 00:29:42,633 --> 00:29:46,233 and her younger niece circling away 'round 562 00:29:46,233 --> 00:29:48,067 to the northeast. 563 00:29:48,067 --> 00:29:50,900 And when I looked over at Range Four Harry, 564 00:29:50,900 --> 00:29:54,700 we communicated with body language. 565 00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:57,600 I didn't say anything, he didn't say anything, 566 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,600 but if we had said something I would have said 567 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,533 I don't know what the lady wants. 568 00:30:04,533 --> 00:30:08,567 And he would have said I don't either, (laughs) okay. 569 00:30:08,567 --> 00:30:11,400 And then after she had left, then he went back in 570 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,867 the sagebrush, I decided that I should 571 00:30:13,867 --> 00:30:17,233 just go back in my weather shack and read a book. 572 00:30:17,233 --> 00:30:20,200 And so we started communicating like that. 573 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,533 (upbeat acoustic music) 574 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,933 (sinister music) 575 00:30:46,933 --> 00:30:49,667 A few nights later, I was laying in bed 576 00:30:49,667 --> 00:30:53,233 and I heard the door open on the west end, 577 00:30:53,233 --> 00:30:55,900 and a group of people come in. 578 00:30:55,900 --> 00:30:59,633 And one of them sounded like the Air Force general. 579 00:30:59,633 --> 00:31:03,067 He specifically said to the people who were with him, 580 00:31:03,067 --> 00:31:06,200 "I have a man down here, he's bunking down here at the end. 581 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,233 "Harry, go down and get him like you always do 582 00:31:08,233 --> 00:31:10,400 "and March him out front", okay? 583 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,267 And I sat up on the side of my bunk, 584 00:31:13,267 --> 00:31:17,067 kind of assumed an inspection 'cause I was expecting 585 00:31:17,067 --> 00:31:19,567 that a general, an Air Force general was gonna come in, 586 00:31:19,567 --> 00:31:21,700 I only had two stripes at the time. 587 00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:24,433 No more than like from here to that wall, 588 00:31:24,433 --> 00:31:27,567 Range Four Harry started peeking around 589 00:31:27,567 --> 00:31:32,567 the corner to see where I was, 'cause he could hear me. 590 00:31:32,567 --> 00:31:37,067 And I can't explain the feeling of terror that I felt. 591 00:31:37,067 --> 00:31:38,533 As I sat there I realized there 592 00:31:38,533 --> 00:31:41,067 was no point whatever in panicking. 593 00:31:41,067 --> 00:31:46,067 Because if there was any kind of encounter occurring, 594 00:31:46,833 --> 00:31:48,200 I'd lost already. 595 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,267 The best I could do was just sit there in fear, 596 00:31:50,267 --> 00:31:53,500 begging God to protect me. 597 00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:57,733 And he pointed this squarish instrument at my temple 598 00:31:57,733 --> 00:32:00,800 and it half hypnotized me. 599 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,067 It didn't hypnotize me the way he thought it did. 600 00:32:04,067 --> 00:32:06,633 As I stood up, I had to take orders 601 00:32:06,633 --> 00:32:10,067 but I could still remember everything. 602 00:32:10,067 --> 00:32:12,867 And they marched me out to the to the flight line. 603 00:32:12,867 --> 00:32:15,067 One of the colonel's, bird colonels, 604 00:32:15,067 --> 00:32:18,400 was worried that it seemed to him like I 605 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,700 was remembering too much. 606 00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:23,067 He said he thought maybe it would be better 607 00:32:23,067 --> 00:32:26,333 if they had me stand inside the petroleum oils 608 00:32:26,333 --> 00:32:31,333 and liquids shed that was right there, in case I panicked, 609 00:32:32,067 --> 00:32:33,433 and marched me in there. 610 00:32:33,433 --> 00:32:35,167 All I could see were the bare walls. 611 00:32:35,167 --> 00:32:37,733 For perhaps a half hour, 612 00:32:37,733 --> 00:32:40,467 they had me in there for a long time. 613 00:32:40,467 --> 00:32:43,167 And then the general said to the others 614 00:32:43,167 --> 00:32:46,833 that he was gonna show them the rest of Indian Springs Base. 615 00:32:46,833 --> 00:32:50,167 He wanted to show them the aircraft repair hangar. 616 00:32:50,167 --> 00:32:53,133 Harry was walking me back to the building, 617 00:32:53,133 --> 00:32:55,367 so they were telling Harry to hurry up. 618 00:32:55,367 --> 00:32:57,867 As I was walking towards the barracks I now realized 619 00:32:57,867 --> 00:33:01,367 I was completely unhypnotized and I was now 620 00:33:01,367 --> 00:33:05,500 had my own my own feelings, and I was really confused as 621 00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:09,733 to what was going on, was I dreaming or was this real? 622 00:33:09,733 --> 00:33:13,200 And down the road the bird colonel had dropped back 623 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:18,167 and he saw me, and he seemed very concerned. 624 00:33:18,167 --> 00:33:19,900 I decided that the smart thing for me 625 00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:23,233 to do was to go back to bed and let the colonel come get me 626 00:33:23,233 --> 00:33:26,467 because I didn't feel like confronting a bird colonel. 627 00:33:26,467 --> 00:33:28,733 I wasn't ready for it, I wasn't emotionally ready for it, 628 00:33:28,733 --> 00:33:31,433 so I went back in and I went to bed 629 00:33:31,433 --> 00:33:35,500 and I covered up myself and went to the fetal position 630 00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:38,567 and said my prayers and went to sleep. 631 00:33:38,567 --> 00:33:41,333 (sinister music) 632 00:34:09,067 --> 00:34:12,833 It took me almost six months, I estimate, 633 00:34:12,833 --> 00:34:16,067 to overcome the fear I felt when they came. 634 00:34:16,067 --> 00:34:19,067 At first, when things like that would happen, 635 00:34:19,067 --> 00:34:22,167 I thought it was me dreaming 636 00:34:22,167 --> 00:34:25,700 or me having some kind of brain problem. 637 00:34:25,700 --> 00:34:27,933 But as days went on, I decided that, 638 00:34:27,933 --> 00:34:31,067 because they seemed as human as I was, 639 00:34:31,067 --> 00:34:32,700 as real as I was, they seemed to have 640 00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:35,367 the same emotions and everything, that, 641 00:34:35,367 --> 00:34:40,367 to control my fear, that I should start talking to them. 642 00:34:42,067 --> 00:34:44,067 One of the first attempts was I was out 643 00:34:44,067 --> 00:34:46,267 at range three one morning and I was tracking 644 00:34:46,267 --> 00:34:48,400 the balloon through my theodolite 645 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,733 and I felt totally alone. 646 00:34:50,733 --> 00:34:53,333 I'd taken the reading and as I was turning to the left 647 00:34:53,333 --> 00:34:57,433 to write on my form, my reading measurements, 648 00:34:57,433 --> 00:35:02,067 this tall white lady in a suit, not touching me, 649 00:35:02,067 --> 00:35:04,300 but virtually leaned over my shoulder 650 00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:07,100 to look through the theodolite to see what I was looking at 651 00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:08,500 with a pleasant smile on her face. 652 00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:10,267 Now I'm right here, I think I'm alone. 653 00:35:10,267 --> 00:35:13,200 I've had no warning, I haven't heard anything. 654 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,067 And when I turn, since she's like right there. 655 00:35:17,467 --> 00:35:21,533 Well, I didn't jump in fear because I had long since come 656 00:35:21,533 --> 00:35:22,967 to believe that, for some reason, 657 00:35:22,967 --> 00:35:25,833 my mind didn't work the way I expected it 658 00:35:25,833 --> 00:35:27,267 to when I was out there. 659 00:35:27,267 --> 00:35:31,933 My emotion was darn, my mind's acting up on me again. 660 00:35:31,933 --> 00:35:34,100 So I finished what I was doing and then I turned around. 661 00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:39,100 She stood off aways, like maybe as far away as this camera 662 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,433 and was just looking at me smiling. 663 00:35:41,433 --> 00:35:43,800 She seemed to be having the time of her life. 664 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,767 Her skin was as white as a piece of paper, 665 00:35:46,767 --> 00:35:50,667 she had about half as much hair as a human lady would have 666 00:35:50,667 --> 00:35:53,667 and it was platinum white and very short. 667 00:35:53,667 --> 00:35:56,067 Her lips and her nose, they were smaller than 668 00:35:56,067 --> 00:35:58,400 what you'd think, her ears were smaller 669 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,600 than what you'd think. 670 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,900 But she otherwise could easily just dress up 671 00:36:02,900 --> 00:36:04,800 and look like a human nurse, 672 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,833 and you wouldn't have noticed the difference. 673 00:36:06,833 --> 00:36:09,967 Say like midnight in Las Vegas where everybody looks 674 00:36:09,967 --> 00:36:12,700 a little weird, she could have just walked in among us. 675 00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:17,700 And she had on a slight helmet and she had on a suit. 676 00:36:19,067 --> 00:36:20,300 And it's just that because she was floating, 677 00:36:20,300 --> 00:36:22,900 like the suit gave her the power to levitate, 678 00:36:22,900 --> 00:36:25,067 I thought it was me, I thought my brain 679 00:36:25,067 --> 00:36:26,633 was malfunctioning or something. 680 00:36:26,633 --> 00:36:30,333 And so to control my fears, I just smiled 681 00:36:30,333 --> 00:36:33,700 and said did you want to look some more? 682 00:36:33,700 --> 00:36:36,833 It's okay, I'll stand back and let you do that. 683 00:36:36,833 --> 00:36:38,800 I thought I was just speaking to maybe 684 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,567 a hallucination or a brain, 685 00:36:40,567 --> 00:36:43,833 to try to control my fear because 686 00:36:43,833 --> 00:36:46,633 when you're alone out in the desert, 687 00:36:46,633 --> 00:36:49,800 even if you're afraid of a rabbit, if you panic, 688 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,633 nothing nice is gonna happen. 689 00:36:51,633 --> 00:36:53,433 You're gonna kill yourself running away from 690 00:36:53,433 --> 00:36:55,100 a rabbit or something, right? 691 00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:56,633 So you have to have total control 692 00:36:56,633 --> 00:36:59,867 of what you're gonna do next in order to come back alive, 693 00:36:59,867 --> 00:37:02,600 even if you're just jumping at your own shadow. 694 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,333 And some nights I did. (laughs) 695 00:37:05,333 --> 00:37:07,367 And so on the one hand it was 696 00:37:07,367 --> 00:37:10,800 a very pleasant experience, meeting her, 697 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,567 but on the other hand I felt tremendous disappointment 698 00:37:14,567 --> 00:37:17,133 with myself because I had hoped my brain 699 00:37:17,133 --> 00:37:19,467 would last to be at least middle-aged. 700 00:37:21,833 --> 00:37:24,433 (gentle music) 701 00:37:25,567 --> 00:37:28,567 Well, it's very easy for me to, well, 702 00:37:30,633 --> 00:37:33,500 I lived it, it's like I can remember every step back 703 00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:35,467 to the weather shack. 704 00:37:35,467 --> 00:37:36,933 (mystical music) 705 00:37:36,933 --> 00:37:39,800 I was dazed and I was in shock. 706 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,067 There are so many ways 707 00:37:41,067 --> 00:37:45,167 that you can be caught unawares and be afraid. 708 00:37:45,167 --> 00:37:48,500 And it comes down to a showdown 709 00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:50,200 of how many different types 710 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,800 of psychological defenses do you have? 711 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,900 Such as whistling in the dark or making 712 00:37:56,900 --> 00:37:59,767 a contract with God if I live. 713 00:38:02,567 --> 00:38:05,833 That's what was keeping me alive. (echoing) 714 00:38:05,833 --> 00:38:10,833 * I hope that you will say that I'm your loving man * 715 00:38:12,333 --> 00:38:17,300 * Make up your mind and do what you're going to do * 716 00:38:19,167 --> 00:38:24,167 * It's up to you, darling, it's up to you * 717 00:38:26,167 --> 00:38:30,967 * Baby, it's up, it's up, to you * 718 00:38:30,967 --> 00:38:34,300 (mystical chorus music) 719 00:38:40,533 --> 00:38:41,833 - You probably don't realize 720 00:38:41,833 --> 00:38:44,433 how much humans depend on each other 721 00:38:44,433 --> 00:38:47,667 to validate their experience. 722 00:38:47,667 --> 00:38:52,533 See, if you and I together we're out here in this desert, 723 00:38:52,533 --> 00:38:55,800 and if a Tall White guard were to just walk up 724 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,100 and say hi, how's it going? 725 00:38:58,100 --> 00:39:01,067 It would be so natural for one of the two of us 726 00:39:01,067 --> 00:39:04,167 to say to the other do you see what I see? 727 00:39:04,167 --> 00:39:07,367 And many humans base their version of reality, 728 00:39:07,367 --> 00:39:11,433 their emotions and so on on that type of interaction. 729 00:39:11,433 --> 00:39:14,233 And when you see a scout craft, 730 00:39:14,233 --> 00:39:17,733 alien Tall White scout craft, intentionally blocking 731 00:39:17,733 --> 00:39:21,333 the road, making sure that I didn't go any further, 732 00:39:21,333 --> 00:39:23,167 and it was now necessary for me 733 00:39:23,167 --> 00:39:25,100 to turn my pickup truck around on 734 00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:29,067 the narrow gravel road where I was without backing into 735 00:39:29,067 --> 00:39:31,433 a cactus and getting a flat tire, 736 00:39:31,433 --> 00:39:34,933 and keeping the wheels on the road so I don't get stuck. 737 00:39:34,933 --> 00:39:38,700 And to do it, I'm gonna have to make like a 13-point turn, 738 00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:40,467 up and back up, up and back. 739 00:39:40,467 --> 00:39:42,067 And then as you're driving back, 740 00:39:42,067 --> 00:39:45,067 as I finally got my truck turned when I was driving back, 741 00:39:45,067 --> 00:39:47,633 the 10 miles or so I was too afraid to even look in 742 00:39:47,633 --> 00:39:49,500 the mirror to see if they were following me. 743 00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:53,367 Then now you asked the question were they for real, 744 00:39:53,367 --> 00:39:55,233 parked on the road in front of me? 745 00:39:55,233 --> 00:39:57,967 When you were there, you had to react as though they 746 00:39:57,967 --> 00:40:00,000 were real and they were real, 747 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,900 but now you can say to yourself you can switch 748 00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:04,133 to whistling in the dark. 749 00:40:05,733 --> 00:40:09,700 * Hallelujah 750 00:40:09,700 --> 00:40:14,400 * Hallelujah, hallelujah 751 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,700 * Hallelujah 752 00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:22,933 * Hallelujah, hallelujah 753 00:40:22,933 --> 00:40:25,433 * Hallelujah 754 00:40:32,267 --> 00:40:37,033 - I was 24-years-old and I had just graduated from college. 755 00:40:37,033 --> 00:40:41,033 And my roommate wanted me to go and celebrate 756 00:40:41,033 --> 00:40:43,967 the fact that we'd graduated. 757 00:40:43,967 --> 00:40:47,133 And in all the time I'd been in college, 758 00:40:47,133 --> 00:40:49,433 I'd never been in a bar. 759 00:40:49,433 --> 00:40:51,333 I really wasn't interested. 760 00:40:51,333 --> 00:40:55,667 She said oh, I'm moving back east, I'll never see you again 761 00:40:55,667 --> 00:40:59,767 so I went and we found ourselves standing on 762 00:40:59,767 --> 00:41:04,133 the perimeter of a huge dance floor. 763 00:41:04,133 --> 00:41:07,500 She said I'm pretty sure there's 764 00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:12,233 a guy who's coming across the floor to ask you to dance. 765 00:41:12,233 --> 00:41:16,567 And I was terrified because it was a slow dance 766 00:41:16,567 --> 00:41:20,067 and the idea of getting close to 767 00:41:20,067 --> 00:41:24,867 a total stranger was not amusing for me. (laughs) 768 00:41:24,867 --> 00:41:27,200 But I wasn't going to turn him down 769 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,967 because I realized what kind of courage it probably took 770 00:41:31,967 --> 00:41:36,100 to just walk up to a total stranger. 771 00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:39,700 And, as a tall woman, I really hadn't been asked 772 00:41:39,700 --> 00:41:42,400 to dance much at all. 773 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,133 Theoretically, we were dancing, 774 00:41:44,133 --> 00:41:46,600 but I didn't notice him moving his feet much. 775 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,567 And he said, "What's your name?" 776 00:41:48,567 --> 00:41:50,100 And I said, "Marie-Therese." 777 00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:52,633 And he said pardon me, and I said, "Oh, 778 00:41:52,633 --> 00:41:55,067 "just call me MT, everybody else does." 779 00:41:55,067 --> 00:41:58,367 I mean, even the dean of women at the college called me MT. 780 00:41:58,367 --> 00:41:59,667 And then he said, 781 00:41:59,667 --> 00:42:03,933 "No, I mean you have a last name, don't you?" 782 00:42:03,933 --> 00:42:07,300 And I said something which I'd never said before, 783 00:42:07,300 --> 00:42:09,467 never thought before, did not hear 784 00:42:09,467 --> 00:42:12,800 what I said until it was out there. 785 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,800 And I said, "My name is MT Rice, 786 00:42:18,967 --> 00:42:20,267 "and I'm looking for a man named Mr. Paddy 787 00:42:20,267 --> 00:42:22,900 "so I can be an empty rice paddy." 788 00:42:22,900 --> 00:42:25,433 And he was just a year back from Vietnam 789 00:42:25,433 --> 00:42:27,567 and he thought it was hilarious, 790 00:42:27,567 --> 00:42:31,733 and, very quickly, he said, "Would you be an empty hall?" 791 00:42:31,733 --> 00:42:33,500 And I said, "Pardon me." 792 00:42:33,500 --> 00:42:36,900 And he said, "My name is Charles James Hall 793 00:42:36,900 --> 00:42:40,267 "and I'm asking you to marry me." 794 00:42:40,267 --> 00:42:42,400 And I said, "You're crazy, I don't even want 795 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,533 "to dance with you again." 796 00:42:44,533 --> 00:42:47,233 And he said, "Would you like to go out for pizza?" 797 00:42:47,233 --> 00:42:52,233 Well, I have a fast metabolism, I'm always ready to eat. 798 00:42:53,433 --> 00:42:56,133 And as a poor student, I was definitely in 799 00:42:56,133 --> 00:42:58,933 the mood for a pizza. 800 00:42:58,933 --> 00:43:03,233 And then a day or two later he was taking me 801 00:43:03,233 --> 00:43:05,500 to meet his sister and brother-in-law 802 00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:08,467 and we were going to play cards and visit. 803 00:43:08,467 --> 00:43:11,433 And I said, "You weren't really serious when you asked me 804 00:43:11,433 --> 00:43:13,100 "to marry you the other night." 805 00:43:14,633 --> 00:43:16,167 And he said, "Well, I kind of was. 806 00:43:16,167 --> 00:43:18,967 "You had a cynical look about you 807 00:43:18,967 --> 00:43:22,500 "and I knew I'd only get one chance." 808 00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:25,767 And then he said very quietly, "Besides, 809 00:43:25,767 --> 00:43:30,767 "God told me you'd be my wife." (giggles) 810 00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:33,900 And we got married a scant five months later. 811 00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:37,167 I said, "Well, you have to grow some hair." 812 00:43:37,167 --> 00:43:40,067 He still had a military haircut 813 00:43:40,067 --> 00:43:43,100 and everybody had those lamb chop sideburns 814 00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:47,433 and I said, "It would be nice if you lost a little weight." 815 00:43:47,433 --> 00:43:50,067 He gained 50 pounds just in 816 00:43:50,067 --> 00:43:54,233 that short year after coming home from Vietnam. 817 00:43:56,900 --> 00:43:59,233 We were laying in bed one night 818 00:43:59,233 --> 00:44:04,200 and Charles seemed kind of quiet, maybe a little morose, 819 00:44:05,867 --> 00:44:10,067 and we'd come from a party, left early. 820 00:44:10,067 --> 00:44:12,133 And I guess the people at the party 821 00:44:12,133 --> 00:44:16,600 were talking anti-war stuff and such 822 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,900 and I think that's why he was in a mood. 823 00:44:19,900 --> 00:44:21,700 And he said those people at 824 00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:26,700 the party have no idea what it was like. 825 00:44:27,567 --> 00:44:28,833 And I said you mean Vietnam? 826 00:44:28,833 --> 00:44:31,100 And he said oh no, that was the war, 827 00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:34,100 it was pretty much what you might expect. 828 00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:37,467 Then he started telling me about the terror of 829 00:44:37,467 --> 00:44:41,900 the extraterrestrials coming into his barracks. 830 00:44:41,900 --> 00:44:45,067 I think the reason Charles didn't tell me about 831 00:44:45,067 --> 00:44:48,300 the extraterrestrials before we got married 832 00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:51,200 is perhaps he was a little insecure about 833 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,200 what my response would be, what I would think 834 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,067 of him as a person. 835 00:44:56,067 --> 00:44:58,700 And he said what do you think? 836 00:44:58,700 --> 00:45:03,067 And I said I never really thought about extraterrestrials 837 00:45:03,067 --> 00:45:04,867 or whether they exist or not. 838 00:45:04,867 --> 00:45:06,633 And I really don't care. 839 00:45:06,633 --> 00:45:11,067 At the time I was just young, happy to be married 840 00:45:11,067 --> 00:45:12,733 and looking forward to having 841 00:45:12,733 --> 00:45:16,600 a family once he finished his college. 842 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,667 For the next 30 years, we just raised a family. 843 00:45:20,667 --> 00:45:22,800 I have six children. 844 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,700 And then Charles came to the end of a contract 845 00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:31,533 and would eventually be unemployed for 18 months. 846 00:45:31,533 --> 00:45:35,300 And I came into the computer room when he was 847 00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:37,767 a month into this unemployment 848 00:45:37,767 --> 00:45:40,300 and he shut the screen real fast. 849 00:45:40,300 --> 00:45:41,767 And I said what are you doing? 850 00:45:41,767 --> 00:45:46,267 And he said oh, I am working on a book, 851 00:45:46,267 --> 00:45:50,067 for the past 18 years without telling me about it. 852 00:45:50,067 --> 00:45:51,933 And I said really? 853 00:45:51,933 --> 00:45:54,933 And I read for about 20 minutes and I came back 854 00:45:54,933 --> 00:45:57,533 and I said we have to publish this. 855 00:45:57,533 --> 00:46:00,300 Well first of all he had to swear to me 856 00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:03,433 that it was true and he said oh no, 857 00:46:03,433 --> 00:46:07,300 I'm just writing my memoirs for our grandchildren. 858 00:46:07,300 --> 00:46:12,067 And it actually got to be a pretty heated argument. 859 00:46:12,067 --> 00:46:16,100 And finally I said Charles, you're unemployed. 860 00:46:16,100 --> 00:46:18,500 If the Men in Black come to the front door, 861 00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:21,600 you go with them, it's free room and board. 862 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,600 And then he laughed and he said you're right, 863 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,100 what do we have to lose? 864 00:46:27,100 --> 00:46:31,800 You changed the name of your friends in the book 865 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,267 to protect their privacy. 866 00:46:33,267 --> 00:46:37,167 Have you changed the Tall White's names as well? 867 00:46:38,333 --> 00:46:40,433 - No, because I figure that any Tall White 868 00:46:40,433 --> 00:46:45,067 that wants to sue me would have to appear in court. 869 00:46:45,067 --> 00:46:46,933 I win either way, okay? 870 00:46:46,933 --> 00:46:47,767 (laughing) 871 00:46:47,767 --> 00:46:48,967 I win either way. 872 00:46:48,967 --> 00:46:51,767 Guilty as charged, can we have pictures? 873 00:46:53,667 --> 00:46:56,367 During my lifetime I've personally been in front 874 00:46:56,367 --> 00:46:59,800 of extraterrestrials of three different types, 875 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:04,600 the Norwegians with 24 teeth, the Grays from Roswell, 876 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,067 Tall Whites who I encountered routinely out in 877 00:47:08,067 --> 00:47:09,933 the deserts here in Nevada. 878 00:47:09,933 --> 00:47:11,833 They're all flesh-and-blood creatures, 879 00:47:11,833 --> 00:47:14,267 they all have men, women and children. 880 00:47:14,267 --> 00:47:17,633 They're all surprisingly like us, okay? 881 00:47:17,633 --> 00:47:20,467 Both my wife and I greatly enjoy the seminars 882 00:47:20,467 --> 00:47:24,667 and talking to people and book signings and so on. 883 00:47:24,667 --> 00:47:29,100 99% of all of our fans are wonderful people. 884 00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:32,400 Every now and then you come across some fans 885 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,733 who have ideas of their own to express. 886 00:47:35,733 --> 00:47:37,567 But I was in the service, 887 00:47:37,567 --> 00:47:39,833 I've been called every name you can think of, 888 00:47:39,833 --> 00:47:43,267 some by my drill sergeant. (laughs) 889 00:47:43,267 --> 00:47:44,633 I enjoy talking to everyone, 890 00:47:44,633 --> 00:47:47,100 no matter what questions they're asking. 891 00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:50,367 My books are very emotional because when I lived 892 00:47:50,367 --> 00:47:54,833 those events, they were very emotional events. 893 00:47:54,833 --> 00:47:57,333 It's not unusual for people 894 00:47:57,333 --> 00:48:01,567 to be interested in tiny details that 895 00:48:01,567 --> 00:48:04,600 a person might not ordinarily think of. 896 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,067 Did the extraterrestrials care whether 897 00:48:07,067 --> 00:48:08,967 or not we save the whales? 898 00:48:08,967 --> 00:48:12,133 Precise distances from my weather shack 899 00:48:12,133 --> 00:48:14,900 to my theodolite stand and so on. 900 00:48:14,900 --> 00:48:17,067 Really small details. 901 00:48:17,067 --> 00:48:19,900 (whimsical music) 902 00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:24,433 One time in 1966 when I was stationed here at Nellis, 903 00:48:24,433 --> 00:48:26,300 one of the range maintenance men, 904 00:48:26,300 --> 00:48:27,700 a very good friend of mine, 905 00:48:27,700 --> 00:48:30,300 he said he wondered if they really 906 00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:34,367 were as much like us as they appeared 907 00:48:34,367 --> 00:48:36,067 or if they were just so intelligent 908 00:48:36,067 --> 00:48:40,333 that they were smart enough to appear to be that way 909 00:48:40,333 --> 00:48:43,967 so that us guys wouldn't panic too much 910 00:48:43,967 --> 00:48:45,700 when they came around. 911 00:48:45,700 --> 00:48:49,133 Because meeting them for the first time was total panic. 912 00:48:49,133 --> 00:48:50,733 Well first they have to overcome their fear 913 00:48:50,733 --> 00:48:53,100 of humans before they can do so. 914 00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:54,900 That's what I was all about. 915 00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:59,233 I was a test human that they could practice on. (laughing) 916 00:49:01,067 --> 00:49:03,533 Their hearing is way better than ours. 917 00:49:03,533 --> 00:49:05,467 It's as good as that of a dog, 918 00:49:05,467 --> 00:49:07,500 and their vocal cords can make all sorts 919 00:49:07,500 --> 00:49:10,067 of high-pitched sounds that we can't hear. 920 00:49:10,067 --> 00:49:13,133 And I was listening to that what sounded 921 00:49:13,133 --> 00:49:17,933 like western meadowlarks, the birds singing. 922 00:49:17,933 --> 00:49:20,467 That's how it sounds when the Tall Whites 923 00:49:20,467 --> 00:49:23,133 are using their natural language. 924 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,933 The Tall Whites live much longer than humans 925 00:49:28,933 --> 00:49:33,667 and they live like 600 to 800 years. 926 00:49:33,667 --> 00:49:36,300 The Teacher was equivalent in age to 927 00:49:36,300 --> 00:49:40,467 a human lady, 21, 22-years-old. 928 00:49:40,467 --> 00:49:44,833 She had a little girl whom she named The Butterfly. 929 00:49:44,833 --> 00:49:48,600 This was a very fun name for her because, 930 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,300 on their planet, they don't have butterflies. 931 00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:56,300 There came a day in the early summer of 1965 where 932 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,467 The Teacher's only daughter, The Butterfly, 933 00:50:01,467 --> 00:50:05,400 was lost in the sagebrush down in range one. 934 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,000 And the Tall Whites were frantically looking for her 935 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,967 but they were looking in the wrong place, 936 00:50:10,967 --> 00:50:13,000 they were looking like five miles 937 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,767 or seven miles away from where she was. 938 00:50:15,767 --> 00:50:18,867 The Nellis Base commander apparently, 939 00:50:18,867 --> 00:50:22,467 on orders from the Pentagon, I'm guessing, asked me 940 00:50:22,467 --> 00:50:25,800 to just make periodic boon releases upon every hour, 941 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,333 hour and a half, from range one and 942 00:50:28,333 --> 00:50:31,600 to phone him into the Nellis Weather Station. 943 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:32,933 Of course, they were never used, 944 00:50:32,933 --> 00:50:34,300 there were no planes using range one 945 00:50:34,300 --> 00:50:36,733 where the little girl was lost. 946 00:50:36,733 --> 00:50:39,733 And, of course, as usual, no one ever told me anything. 947 00:50:39,733 --> 00:50:42,733 I was a low ranking enlisted man. 948 00:50:42,733 --> 00:50:44,667 I only had two stripes at the time and 949 00:50:44,667 --> 00:50:48,367 the general says go out and take the weather report. 950 00:50:48,367 --> 00:50:51,800 So yeah, yes sir, there's the only answer. 951 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,500 The little girl was only stood like three feet tall. 952 00:50:55,500 --> 00:50:57,733 It wasn't just a matter of finding her, 953 00:50:57,733 --> 00:50:59,767 it was a matter of getting through the sagebrush to them 954 00:50:59,767 --> 00:51:03,067 because they're not big and husky and strong like we are. 955 00:51:03,067 --> 00:51:04,267 They're very fragile. 956 00:51:04,267 --> 00:51:06,500 So they had to go through the open lanes 957 00:51:06,500 --> 00:51:09,267 whereas a guy like me can just trump 'em down. 958 00:51:09,267 --> 00:51:11,100 I was expecting it to be a little girl 959 00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:13,367 or maybe a rabbit or something. 960 00:51:13,367 --> 00:51:15,333 And as I was doing that, 961 00:51:15,333 --> 00:51:19,833 I heard all these meadowlark sounds coming out, 962 00:51:19,833 --> 00:51:24,833 the equivalent of meadowlark cheering or something, right? 963 00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:28,133 And I was kind of in shock. 964 00:51:28,133 --> 00:51:32,067 And so, as I was leaving the range one then 965 00:51:32,067 --> 00:51:34,267 The Teacher and her little girl, 966 00:51:34,267 --> 00:51:37,067 they wanted very much to thank me for saving 967 00:51:37,067 --> 00:51:38,800 the little girl's life. 968 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,467 Well, there is no way in the world 969 00:51:40,467 --> 00:51:44,100 that I was in any any emotional state to stand anywhere, 970 00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:46,633 that I just needed to keep moving. 971 00:51:46,633 --> 00:51:49,867 And I got into my truck and carefully 972 00:51:49,867 --> 00:51:53,333 and deliberately just drove out and still didn't wait. 973 00:51:53,333 --> 00:51:57,067 You see, so now The Teacher and the American generals, 974 00:51:57,067 --> 00:51:59,833 and the Tall White generals, they now had this problem. 975 00:51:59,833 --> 00:52:01,700 How do you get Charlie to just sit there 976 00:52:01,700 --> 00:52:03,300 and be thanked, right? 977 00:52:03,300 --> 00:52:08,300 I'm ordered to take the 12:30 in the afternoon balloon run. 978 00:52:09,467 --> 00:52:12,633 And when I finished to go check the lounge 979 00:52:12,633 --> 00:52:16,867 to make sure that all the windows are closed and stuff. 980 00:52:16,867 --> 00:52:19,067 And so then when I went into the lounge 981 00:52:19,067 --> 00:52:21,967 which was empty and I started to come out, 982 00:52:21,967 --> 00:52:26,067 I find the Tall Whites collecting around me. 983 00:52:26,067 --> 00:52:28,267 And on the bunker road and 984 00:52:28,267 --> 00:52:31,933 so that blocking all my escape routes, 985 00:52:31,933 --> 00:52:34,367 and an American general and three-star, 986 00:52:34,367 --> 00:52:35,933 a one-star, a colonel. 987 00:52:35,933 --> 00:52:38,800 And what they're gonna do is hypnotize me partly. 988 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,367 It's an electronic thing, it's with microwaves. 989 00:52:41,367 --> 00:52:43,867 And that was one of their weapons where they could 990 00:52:43,867 --> 00:52:46,300 just hypnotize a person electronically. 991 00:52:46,300 --> 00:52:48,200 And she and her little girl stood 992 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,567 there and very ceremoniously and nicely said 993 00:52:50,567 --> 00:52:53,533 thank you Charlie for saving my little girl 994 00:52:53,533 --> 00:52:56,700 and the American general said well, 995 00:52:56,700 --> 00:52:57,933 we've been nice to Charlie, 996 00:52:57,933 --> 00:52:59,533 we gave him a tremendous gift, 997 00:52:59,533 --> 00:53:01,700 a three-day pass to Los Angeles, 998 00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:04,567 which was quite a bit for a young man. 999 00:53:04,567 --> 00:53:07,067 Yes, but this one overcame his fears, 1000 00:53:07,067 --> 00:53:10,500 this one went back to help her and save her life. 1001 00:53:10,500 --> 00:53:13,100 It's our way, we have to thank him. 1002 00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:15,400 And then they've one-by-one went back out 1003 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,567 and leaving only me and Range Four Harry there who, 1004 00:53:18,567 --> 00:53:22,067 he wasn't afraid of me and we understood each other. 1005 00:53:22,067 --> 00:53:23,233 And then, at the very end, 1006 00:53:23,233 --> 00:53:25,700 he had me stand the next to the wall 1007 00:53:25,700 --> 00:53:27,667 and sing one of my songs. 1008 00:53:27,667 --> 00:53:30,067 And then he unhypnotized me and he said 1009 00:53:30,067 --> 00:53:33,233 when you're finished the song then you're on your own, 1010 00:53:33,233 --> 00:53:34,667 and then he left running. 1011 00:53:34,667 --> 00:53:38,767 And now after they all went away, now fear set in. 1012 00:53:38,767 --> 00:53:41,200 I tried to phone Nellis for help. 1013 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,933 Well, of course, Range Four Harry was on the telephones. 1014 00:53:43,933 --> 00:53:45,967 I'm in here, I'm trapped and he was laughing. 1015 00:53:45,967 --> 00:53:48,700 He was saying Charlie, the stories you tell, 1016 00:53:48,700 --> 00:53:50,800 you have had one great afternoon. 1017 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,667 Your generals are so proud. 1018 00:53:52,667 --> 00:53:55,100 Just go to your truck and drive in and have a nice meal. 1019 00:53:55,100 --> 00:54:00,167 And I didn't realize I was talking to Range Four Harry. 1020 00:54:01,533 --> 00:54:04,367 (whimsical music) 1021 00:54:11,467 --> 00:54:15,933 But talking to the aliens, they're always well-armed, 1022 00:54:15,933 --> 00:54:19,500 even if they're your friends, they're always well-armed. 1023 00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:21,067 And even if they're your friends, 1024 00:54:21,067 --> 00:54:23,700 when they come, there's always a certain tension. 1025 00:54:23,700 --> 00:54:26,267 And so whenever they came, you always wanted 1026 00:54:26,267 --> 00:54:28,700 to be very cautious and say now I'm going 1027 00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:32,433 to stand up and walk over there, okay, 1028 00:54:32,433 --> 00:54:33,933 even if they were your friend, 1029 00:54:33,933 --> 00:54:36,700 because you never, never, never once wanted 1030 00:54:36,700 --> 00:54:39,300 to surprise them or scare them. 1031 00:54:48,633 --> 00:54:50,967 Like that one night that they wanted to see me start 1032 00:54:50,967 --> 00:54:53,133 the diesel and start the generator. 1033 00:54:53,133 --> 00:54:58,133 And so it was necessary for me to stand there next 1034 00:54:59,333 --> 00:55:01,633 to the diesel and try to adjust the electricity, 1035 00:55:01,633 --> 00:55:06,633 the generator part of it, while the Tall White electrician 1036 00:55:07,733 --> 00:55:10,067 who was taller and older than me could see 1037 00:55:10,067 --> 00:55:13,533 what I was doing without burning my hand 1038 00:55:13,533 --> 00:55:17,200 or without moving in a panic. 1039 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,667 And he had to learn to do that without moving in panic. 1040 00:55:20,667 --> 00:55:23,233 And so the two of us had to learn to stand, 1041 00:55:23,233 --> 00:55:26,500 just like that there, and for me to say well see, 1042 00:55:26,500 --> 00:55:31,500 I'm gonna adjust it to 60 cycles and 120 volts AC. 1043 00:55:33,133 --> 00:55:35,733 And see, this is the circuit breaker. 1044 00:55:35,733 --> 00:55:38,067 And I thought the only reason I was talking was 1045 00:55:38,067 --> 00:55:40,267 because I was so frickin' afraid. 1046 00:55:40,267 --> 00:55:41,767 I thought well you got to be careful, 1047 00:55:41,767 --> 00:55:43,933 you're gonna burn yourself, because the manifold 1048 00:55:43,933 --> 00:55:47,100 is running red-hot and I'm reaching in between the manifold. 1049 00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:48,667 And then there's another guy there 1050 00:55:48,667 --> 00:55:51,667 and a guard right there who, if anything goes wrong can, 1051 00:55:51,667 --> 00:55:53,733 cut me down at a minutes notice, 1052 00:55:53,733 --> 00:55:55,333 and another guard out by my truck 1053 00:55:55,333 --> 00:55:58,267 and another guy standing and reserve in case 1054 00:55:58,267 --> 00:56:00,267 there are enough men there to cut me down 1055 00:56:00,267 --> 00:56:02,767 if I got out of line. (laughing) 1056 00:56:02,767 --> 00:56:04,533 To burn the building or whatever. 1057 00:56:04,533 --> 00:56:08,233 And I'm saying my prayers and it takes a while 1058 00:56:08,233 --> 00:56:10,967 to get used to the idea that, really, 1059 00:56:10,967 --> 00:56:12,733 they're just ordinary people 1060 00:56:12,733 --> 00:56:15,867 and you have to control yourself. 1061 00:56:15,867 --> 00:56:18,933 They're just like us and they're afraid of things. 1062 00:56:18,933 --> 00:56:23,567 The Teacher, I asked The Teacher why the Tall Whites 1063 00:56:23,567 --> 00:56:26,200 were afraid of me and she explained it 1064 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,400 to me by saying well, this is your planet, 1065 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,733 you understand everything here. 1066 00:56:31,733 --> 00:56:32,967 You can eat anything. 1067 00:56:32,967 --> 00:56:35,667 If you get in trouble, you can lay out there in 1068 00:56:35,667 --> 00:56:38,400 the weeds and heal yourself the way the Indians did. 1069 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:39,700 She'd seen it. 1070 00:56:39,700 --> 00:56:44,100 If you needed help, you could ask any human. 1071 00:56:44,100 --> 00:56:49,100 You can lift stuff, you're properly proportioned. 1072 00:56:51,067 --> 00:56:53,433 You can lift rocks and do anything. 1073 00:56:53,433 --> 00:56:56,567 But they, if they're even stung by a bumblebee, 1074 00:56:56,567 --> 00:57:00,133 have to have immediate medical help or they die. 1075 00:57:00,133 --> 00:57:05,067 The extraterrestrials that I routinely interacted 1076 00:57:05,067 --> 00:57:09,933 with never once cared about the whales. 1077 00:57:09,933 --> 00:57:12,133 The thing about humans that stood out was 1078 00:57:12,133 --> 00:57:16,200 that we interacted with the animals way way more 1079 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,100 than most intelligent beings. 1080 00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:24,100 What happens is that the one species becomes intelligent 1081 00:57:25,267 --> 00:57:27,867 and then kills off any animal that might be 1082 00:57:27,867 --> 00:57:29,800 a danger to 'em. 1083 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,733 I grew up in Wisconsin and I know how 1084 00:57:31,733 --> 00:57:34,067 to milk cows and ride horses. 1085 00:57:34,067 --> 00:57:38,067 Any one of those animals could kill me at will, okay? 1086 00:57:38,067 --> 00:57:40,167 They're not as intelligent as I am. 1087 00:57:40,167 --> 00:57:43,733 But I as the intelligent being try to say well, 1088 00:57:43,733 --> 00:57:46,500 the horse is thinking nicely, I domesticate 'em, 1089 00:57:46,500 --> 00:57:48,500 so I walk right up to him, see? 1090 00:57:48,500 --> 00:57:51,433 On most planets, not all, but most, 1091 00:57:51,433 --> 00:57:54,133 the intelligent beings are plant eaters. 1092 00:57:54,133 --> 00:57:57,067 And for them coming up around an animal 1093 00:57:57,067 --> 00:58:00,067 that might hurt them, they say we can't take 1094 00:58:00,067 --> 00:58:02,200 the chance and zap 'em. 1095 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:07,067 Every human I ever met was afraid of them at first, okay? 1096 00:58:07,067 --> 00:58:10,667 The only person I ever met that knew they were there 1097 00:58:10,667 --> 00:58:15,667 but didn't, at first, go through a period of denial, 1098 00:58:17,067 --> 00:58:18,700 but for most humans it was only one or two days, 1099 00:58:18,700 --> 00:58:23,500 for me it was a several months, was one guy from Georgia, 1100 00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:27,900 when he said that he'd got to the ranges two years before me 1101 00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:29,500 and he said one day in the summer he 1102 00:58:29,500 --> 00:58:33,067 was out at range four looking for skip bombs 1103 00:58:33,067 --> 00:58:35,067 that pilots had dropped. 1104 00:58:35,067 --> 00:58:37,067 And he walked over to one of the sand dunes 1105 00:58:37,067 --> 00:58:39,767 and there on the other side on the sand dune next 1106 00:58:39,767 --> 00:58:44,500 to him or in front of him was The Teacher 1107 00:58:44,500 --> 00:58:47,300 with her three children, and they 1108 00:58:47,300 --> 00:58:52,067 were writing hieroglyphs in the sand and having fun. 1109 00:58:52,067 --> 00:58:55,900 And when he came over the hill, he surprised them. 1110 00:58:55,900 --> 00:58:59,067 He said he saw immediately that they were real, 1111 00:58:59,067 --> 00:59:03,267 and since he was from Georgia, he said, in his own words, 1112 00:59:03,267 --> 00:59:05,267 it didn't surprise him because he always knew 1113 00:59:05,267 --> 00:59:09,200 the Yankee government would be lying to southerners. 1114 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,933 (laughs) And he just stood there and he saw immediately 1115 00:59:11,933 --> 00:59:13,667 that they were real and he just stood there 1116 00:59:13,667 --> 00:59:17,500 and The Teacher got up slowly and then, with her hands, 1117 00:59:17,500 --> 00:59:20,067 motioned the children to take off running. 1118 00:59:20,067 --> 00:59:22,300 And then after they had gone, then she smiled at him, 1119 00:59:22,300 --> 00:59:24,333 then she took off running. 1120 00:59:24,333 --> 00:59:27,133 And right then he said he knew that they were real 1121 00:59:27,133 --> 00:59:30,467 but he was still terrified of them, okay? 1122 00:59:30,467 --> 00:59:33,500 But he never went through a self-denial phase 1123 00:59:33,500 --> 00:59:36,267 or the self-denial phase was very, very short. 1124 00:59:44,367 --> 00:59:47,233 I, one time, asked the teacher what her real name was 1125 00:59:47,233 --> 00:59:48,467 and she said if she told me, 1126 00:59:48,467 --> 00:59:50,167 I wouldn't be able to hear all the sounds, 1127 00:59:50,167 --> 00:59:52,867 and if I tried to make her pronounce her name, 1128 00:59:52,867 --> 00:59:56,433 I couldn't make all the sounds so she wouldn't hear it right 1129 00:59:56,433 --> 00:59:59,500 so that's why they had simple names like The Teacher, 1130 00:59:59,500 --> 01:00:01,967 like Range Four Harry. - And when they're speaking 1131 01:00:01,967 --> 01:00:03,133 to you with their normal voice, 1132 01:00:03,133 --> 01:00:04,800 like we are speaking to you. 1133 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,800 - They could make any sound they wanted 1134 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,200 but they had to learn English so there was 1135 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:11,967 a simplest thing the world for them 1136 01:00:11,967 --> 01:00:13,433 to call me on the telephone 1137 01:00:13,433 --> 01:00:15,633 and sound like anybody they wanted to sound like. 1138 01:00:15,633 --> 01:00:19,800 And one of the first decisions that I had made, 1139 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,167 and agreements that I'd made with the Tall Whites, 1140 01:00:22,167 --> 01:00:24,267 The Teacher and Range Four Harry, 1141 01:00:24,267 --> 01:00:28,900 was that I would never pursue and they passed 1142 01:00:28,900 --> 01:00:32,067 the agreement around to everybody that if I saw them out in 1143 01:00:32,067 --> 01:00:35,233 the desert, I would just stop where I was 1144 01:00:35,233 --> 01:00:37,833 and sing songs and make noise, 1145 01:00:37,833 --> 01:00:41,633 and then they could approach me as close as they wanted. 1146 01:00:41,633 --> 01:00:44,233 And if that might only be as close as a mile 1147 01:00:44,233 --> 01:00:46,433 and a quarter if they were afraid of me. 1148 01:00:46,433 --> 01:00:48,467 And they could come when they wanted, 1149 01:00:48,467 --> 01:00:50,367 they could leave when they wanted. 1150 01:00:50,367 --> 01:00:52,467 I would never pursue, I would never try 1151 01:00:52,467 --> 01:00:54,267 to close the distance. 1152 01:00:54,267 --> 01:00:56,000 And when they closed the distance 1153 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,300 to where they felt comfortable, 1154 01:00:58,300 --> 01:01:01,300 if that was too close for me, 1155 01:01:01,300 --> 01:01:03,067 if they started getting too close to me 1156 01:01:03,067 --> 01:01:06,867 which sometimes happened and I didn't feel comfortable, 1157 01:01:06,867 --> 01:01:09,067 that I would start backing away, 1158 01:01:09,067 --> 01:01:11,167 and they would stop where they were 1159 01:01:11,167 --> 01:01:13,100 and they wouldn't pursue. 1160 01:01:13,100 --> 01:01:16,667 And when the two of us had me, or me and the group, 1161 01:01:16,667 --> 01:01:21,200 had, in effect, agreed on a distance to communicate, 1162 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,800 then we could communicate. 1163 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,133 They come for their purposes. 1164 01:01:29,100 --> 01:01:31,733 The Grays, they were here first. 1165 01:01:31,733 --> 01:01:34,300 Their craft are good enough to travel faster than 1166 01:01:34,300 --> 01:01:37,500 the speed of light and to reduce the forces of inertia, 1167 01:01:37,500 --> 01:01:39,800 which makes space travel possible, 1168 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,333 but they're here just because they think of this zone 1169 01:01:43,333 --> 01:01:46,400 of space where the stars are and stuff, 1170 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:51,100 this area of the galaxy, as kind of being their homeland 1171 01:01:51,100 --> 01:01:53,133 or their stomping grounds. 1172 01:01:53,133 --> 01:01:54,867 They're not territorial. 1173 01:01:54,867 --> 01:01:56,633 There's no reason to be territorial 1174 01:01:56,633 --> 01:01:58,467 if you can travel in space 1175 01:01:58,467 --> 01:02:00,933 because there are so many earth-like planets 1176 01:02:00,933 --> 01:02:03,067 with no intelligent beings on 'em. 1177 01:02:03,067 --> 01:02:05,667 There's little point in fighting over any one of them. 1178 01:02:05,667 --> 01:02:08,967 And so as long as nothing happens in this zone 1179 01:02:08,967 --> 01:02:12,433 that would threaten them or their children, 1180 01:02:12,433 --> 01:02:14,433 they kind of turn a deaf ear. 1181 01:02:14,433 --> 01:02:17,067 But if there were anything here that might threaten 1182 01:02:17,067 --> 01:02:19,833 their children, the Gray generals live in 1183 01:02:19,833 --> 01:02:23,267 the world with absolutely no rules other than 1184 01:02:23,267 --> 01:02:25,633 the ones they choose to maintain. 1185 01:02:25,633 --> 01:02:28,067 If there were any other kinds of extraterrestrials 1186 01:02:28,067 --> 01:02:29,633 that would threaten their children, 1187 01:02:29,633 --> 01:02:31,800 the Gray generals, without thinking, 1188 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,800 without excuses, without planning, 1189 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,233 would just go out and blast 'em. 1190 01:02:36,233 --> 01:02:37,900 The Tall Whites, on the other hand, 1191 01:02:37,900 --> 01:02:40,767 have come from further away and have the best technology. 1192 01:02:40,767 --> 01:02:43,600 When the Tall White deep spacecraft come in, 1193 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,567 you say that spacecraft could 1194 01:02:45,567 --> 01:02:48,067 have covered 100 light years, okay? 1195 01:02:48,067 --> 01:02:52,067 Their home planet is much further away, I'm not sure where, 1196 01:02:52,067 --> 01:02:55,433 but I estimated that their home planet was, 1197 01:02:55,433 --> 01:02:57,333 my best guess, coming from 1198 01:02:57,333 --> 01:03:02,067 a star something around 105 light-years away. 1199 01:03:02,067 --> 01:03:07,067 And something above the 21st line of southern latitude, 1200 01:03:08,467 --> 01:03:10,833 it's a southern hemisphere star. 1201 01:03:10,833 --> 01:03:13,367 Because when they would take off from Dog Bone Lake, 1202 01:03:13,367 --> 01:03:16,667 they would come out at about 10,000 feet from their base. 1203 01:03:16,667 --> 01:03:20,100 And the earth and the moon and the Sun all became aligned 1204 01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:24,067 when they powered up, they would lift off, go straight up, 1205 01:03:24,067 --> 01:03:27,933 at between 8,000 and 12,000 miles an hour, 1206 01:03:27,933 --> 01:03:29,667 they'd just go pop up. 1207 01:03:29,667 --> 01:03:31,800 And when they got above the Earth's atmosphere, 1208 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,800 somewhere around 120 miles up, 1209 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,300 then it was common for them to stop in space 1210 01:03:38,300 --> 01:03:41,333 and then change direction and head 1211 01:03:41,333 --> 01:03:44,067 for one of the other stars. 1212 01:03:44,067 --> 01:03:46,400 One of the stars that would head for was 1213 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,767 a star in the southern hemisphere. 1214 01:03:48,767 --> 01:03:51,800 And the Norwegians with 24 teeth that I spoke to, 1215 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,400 they described their home planet. 1216 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,067 They said that their home star was 1217 01:03:57,067 --> 01:04:00,700 a nearby star such as Barnard's Star, 1218 01:04:00,700 --> 01:04:03,700 the fourth closest star, or the next star, 1219 01:04:03,700 --> 01:04:05,267 whose name I can never remember, 1220 01:04:05,267 --> 01:04:07,933 it's like Wolf 379 or something. 1221 01:04:07,933 --> 01:04:11,600 And Barnard Star is at five and three quarters light years, 1222 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:16,300 and the next star out is at six and a half light years. 1223 01:04:16,300 --> 01:04:20,733 Their home planet was an almost-perfect duplicate 1224 01:04:20,733 --> 01:04:24,367 of the earth, except that it was running straight up in 1225 01:04:24,367 --> 01:04:27,667 its orbit and half iced over. 1226 01:04:27,667 --> 01:04:30,967 And they said that their star was a red star 1227 01:04:30,967 --> 01:04:34,067 when frequently put out flares. 1228 01:04:34,067 --> 01:04:35,867 People would stay underground for a while, 1229 01:04:35,867 --> 01:04:39,567 a couple of days 'til the flare passed, 1230 01:04:39,567 --> 01:04:42,133 but otherwise, now the Tall Whites liked 1231 01:04:42,133 --> 01:04:44,267 it much hotter than we do, the Grays liked 1232 01:04:44,267 --> 01:04:46,067 it somewhat hotter than we do, 1233 01:04:46,067 --> 01:04:49,067 but the Norwegians were very happy if it was 10 degrees 1234 01:04:49,067 --> 01:04:53,067 or 15 degrees colder than it is here, than we do, okay? 1235 01:04:53,067 --> 01:04:56,067 They said that on their home planet, 1236 01:04:56,067 --> 01:04:59,633 if you were at their equator, the climate was similar 1237 01:04:59,633 --> 01:05:03,300 to the climate of southern Norway or Sweden or of Finland. 1238 01:05:03,300 --> 01:05:06,333 The reason they were coming here was 1239 01:05:06,333 --> 01:05:09,100 because the earth was a better place 1240 01:05:09,100 --> 01:05:12,300 and almost the same size, had a better sun. 1241 01:05:12,300 --> 01:05:14,433 They said that at noon on their planet, 1242 01:05:14,433 --> 01:05:16,067 it looked like sundown on 1243 01:05:16,067 --> 01:05:18,667 the earth when you have a red sunset. 1244 01:05:18,667 --> 01:05:21,267 Their technology just barely allowed them 1245 01:05:21,267 --> 01:05:23,900 to travel in space. 1246 01:05:23,900 --> 01:05:28,067 Their technology had, their technology allowed them 1247 01:05:28,067 --> 01:05:31,333 to remove the forces of acceleration 1248 01:05:31,333 --> 01:05:36,333 and to accelerate the craft without using rockets 1249 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:38,600 or whatever, just using some of 1250 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,733 the other force fields unknown to Einstein, 1251 01:05:41,733 --> 01:05:44,467 but it did not allow their craft 1252 01:05:44,467 --> 01:05:46,933 to do high-performance maneuvers or 1253 01:05:46,933 --> 01:05:49,233 to exceed the speed of light. 1254 01:05:49,233 --> 01:05:53,300 In order for there to be a craft that travels in space, 1255 01:05:53,300 --> 01:05:57,067 it must have the ability to remove 1256 01:05:57,067 --> 01:06:01,233 the force of inertia when accelerating. 1257 01:06:01,233 --> 01:06:05,567 And it must have the ability for its propulsion system 1258 01:06:05,567 --> 01:06:08,233 to leave nothing behind. 1259 01:06:08,233 --> 01:06:11,933 And that requires streamlined flow. 1260 01:06:11,933 --> 01:06:16,800 But that craft be something like an ellipsoid or 1261 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,767 a smooth-rounded saucer. 1262 01:06:19,767 --> 01:06:24,067 It can not have any concave intersections, 1263 01:06:24,067 --> 01:06:28,967 it can't have any intersections like this microphone. 1264 01:06:28,967 --> 01:06:31,567 It has to be smooth otherwise 1265 01:06:31,567 --> 01:06:36,300 the force field will go turbulent and then it'll seem like 1266 01:06:36,300 --> 01:06:39,200 the mass is going to infinity. 1267 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,667 (whimsical music) 1268 01:06:41,667 --> 01:06:46,233 The Tall White craft come in on the night of the full moon. 1269 01:06:46,233 --> 01:06:49,733 The moon, the earth and the sun are lined up, 1270 01:06:49,733 --> 01:06:51,400 and at sundown, you're coming in on 1271 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,733 the trailing part of the earth. 1272 01:06:53,733 --> 01:06:58,100 As the earth moves in its orbit, you're following it. 1273 01:06:58,100 --> 01:07:01,233 Even though the moon is smaller than the sun 1274 01:07:01,233 --> 01:07:04,633 because it's closer, you have a region in space where 1275 01:07:04,633 --> 01:07:08,433 the gravity field is smooth with no bumps. 1276 01:07:08,433 --> 01:07:10,633 And the earth is moving away from you. 1277 01:07:11,533 --> 01:07:13,667 And so, when you're coming in, 1278 01:07:13,667 --> 01:07:15,967 you can sync up with the movement of the sun 1279 01:07:15,967 --> 01:07:18,333 and the Earth, and then you keep backing off 1280 01:07:18,333 --> 01:07:22,200 and let the Earth's gravity pull you in, okay? 1281 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:26,933 This happens at speeds of 8,000 to 12,000 miles an hour. 1282 01:07:26,933 --> 01:07:29,400 So when you come in, the deep spacecraft of 1283 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,233 the Tall Whites will come in and just stop on 1284 01:07:32,233 --> 01:07:35,167 a dime at 10,000 feet, okay? 1285 01:07:35,167 --> 01:07:39,367 This is different than if you're trying to land when 1286 01:07:39,367 --> 01:07:42,067 the moon is in the third quarter. 1287 01:07:42,067 --> 01:07:45,833 When the moon is leading the Earth in its orbit. 1288 01:07:45,833 --> 01:07:48,667 No spacecraft pilot, 1289 01:07:48,667 --> 01:07:51,667 coming here from another star worth his salt, 1290 01:07:51,667 --> 01:07:55,333 ever wants to get caught in between the Earth 1291 01:07:55,333 --> 01:07:57,600 and the moon when the moon is leading 1292 01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:01,533 the Earth in its orbit, because that's a mouse trap. 1293 01:08:01,533 --> 01:08:03,500 If you go in between there, 1294 01:08:03,500 --> 01:08:07,267 your spacecraft must work perfectly 1295 01:08:07,267 --> 01:08:09,067 or you're gonna be dead. 1296 01:08:09,067 --> 01:08:11,600 Because with the Earth coming towards you, 1297 01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,333 you can't back off, see? 1298 01:08:14,333 --> 01:08:16,467 And if there's any problem with the coils, 1299 01:08:16,467 --> 01:08:19,067 if they're running hot or anything's wrong, 1300 01:08:19,067 --> 01:08:21,200 then the Earth is gonna run into you. 1301 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,467 And so the pilots of the deep space craft 1302 01:08:23,467 --> 01:08:27,800 are extremely conscious of the phase of the moon. 1303 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,633 (whimsical music) 1304 01:08:32,633 --> 01:08:35,100 Not even the aliens can repair their craft 1305 01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:36,900 if they're out in the wild. 1306 01:08:36,900 --> 01:08:40,400 All of them need to have a hangar. 1307 01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,967 It's because the materials that things are made out of, 1308 01:08:43,967 --> 01:08:47,100 the plastic, the metal and so on, see, 1309 01:08:47,100 --> 01:08:49,433 at room temperatures, it's easy to work with, 1310 01:08:49,433 --> 01:08:51,167 but if it's too hot or too cold, 1311 01:08:51,167 --> 01:08:53,200 then it's hard to build stuff. 1312 01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:57,300 Like you could never build a car out on 1313 01:08:57,300 --> 01:09:01,067 a glacier in Antarctica because the materials are too cold. 1314 01:09:01,067 --> 01:09:04,167 You'll want to take, if a car or an airplane were injured, 1315 01:09:04,167 --> 01:09:06,400 repairing it out in that atmosphere is really, 1316 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,467 out in that environment is really tough. 1317 01:09:08,467 --> 01:09:10,200 You wanna bring it back to a repair site 1318 01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,200 and that alien craft is the same way. 1319 01:09:15,867 --> 01:09:20,867 In 1965, it appeared to me, based on just what I saw, 1320 01:09:22,067 --> 01:09:24,767 that the US government had given 1321 01:09:24,767 --> 01:09:29,067 the Tall Whites the base at Indian Springs. 1322 01:09:29,067 --> 01:09:33,167 The agreement was that they would help us in any way 1323 01:09:33,167 --> 01:09:37,833 that they wanted to, not necessarily any way they could, 1324 01:09:37,833 --> 01:09:41,267 and that we would help them in any way we could. 1325 01:09:41,267 --> 01:09:44,700 And so, for example, the Tall Whites, 1326 01:09:44,700 --> 01:09:47,467 there were parts of their technology 1327 01:09:47,467 --> 01:09:49,867 that they did not wish to share 1328 01:09:49,867 --> 01:09:53,433 with us such as their engine technology. 1329 01:09:55,367 --> 01:09:57,067 There were parts that they were willing 1330 01:09:57,067 --> 01:10:00,100 to share with us because that would allow them 1331 01:10:00,100 --> 01:10:04,600 to buy the parts off the shelf, if you will, 1332 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,500 and use to repair their own spacecraft. 1333 01:10:07,500 --> 01:10:11,700 So where their interest and ours overlapped, 1334 01:10:11,700 --> 01:10:13,300 they were willing to share. 1335 01:10:13,300 --> 01:10:16,433 Food was the big one, clothes was a big one. 1336 01:10:16,433 --> 01:10:19,233 I don't know of any specific technology 1337 01:10:19,233 --> 01:10:21,167 that we received from them 1338 01:10:21,167 --> 01:10:24,900 because I was never part of any of those programs. 1339 01:10:24,900 --> 01:10:26,600 I was the weather observer. 1340 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:30,000 But, for example, the night the deep space craft 1341 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,600 that had damage, which appeared to me 1342 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,900 to be meteor damage, the night it came in. 1343 01:10:35,900 --> 01:10:39,033 It was obvious that one of the things they 1344 01:10:39,033 --> 01:10:42,200 were gonna need was high-grade titanium 1345 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:46,900 to do repairs on the interior of the ship. 1346 01:10:46,900 --> 01:10:49,300 When you looked through the windows of the ship as I did, 1347 01:10:49,300 --> 01:10:53,700 from a short distance, like 50 feet, 1348 01:10:53,700 --> 01:10:57,733 the interior of the deep space craft had corridors, 1349 01:10:57,733 --> 01:11:00,800 like an ordinary Caribbean cruise liner. 1350 01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,467 And the damage included damage to the walls. 1351 01:11:04,467 --> 01:11:08,933 And so the metal repair parts like aluminum and titanium 1352 01:11:08,933 --> 01:11:11,700 and so on, they could get from the Americans. 1353 01:11:11,700 --> 01:11:14,100 So the Americans might give them, say, 1354 01:11:14,100 --> 01:11:17,167 pieces of aluminum cut to certain dimensions, 1355 01:11:17,167 --> 01:11:18,633 pieces of titanium. 1356 01:11:18,633 --> 01:11:22,900 This apparently also included fiber optics built 1357 01:11:22,900 --> 01:11:25,300 to this alien specifications, 1358 01:11:26,533 --> 01:11:29,233 because many of the coils were damaged. 1359 01:11:29,233 --> 01:11:33,067 And they might actually need my rough estimate, 1360 01:11:33,067 --> 01:11:37,433 a thousand miles of fiber optics to do the repairs. 1361 01:11:37,433 --> 01:11:40,733 The scientist doing the work never has 1362 01:11:40,733 --> 01:11:43,900 to be told that there are extraterrestrials, 1363 01:11:43,900 --> 01:11:45,767 it's gonna be used in space, right? 1364 01:11:45,767 --> 01:11:50,733 Can your radio be delivered in three parts, okay? 1365 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,367 So you have an integrated circuit board 1366 01:11:53,367 --> 01:11:55,100 but can you have that circuit board in three different ones 1367 01:11:55,100 --> 01:11:57,367 so we could just take out, and could we put in 1368 01:11:57,367 --> 01:11:59,467 a fourth circuit board where we can put 1369 01:11:59,467 --> 01:12:01,133 in one of our own here? 1370 01:12:01,133 --> 01:12:03,767 Of course, that happens all the time in the military, 1371 01:12:03,767 --> 01:12:06,300 sometimes for perfectly ordinary reasons, 1372 01:12:06,300 --> 01:12:09,967 like shells on the battleship, can you make 'em longer? 1373 01:12:09,967 --> 01:12:12,467 He just has the specs, okay? 1374 01:12:12,467 --> 01:12:16,300 And he doesn't have to be told beans about extraterrestrial 1375 01:12:16,300 --> 01:12:17,767 or the spacecraft. 1376 01:12:21,833 --> 01:12:25,133 The repairs on that ship took more than six months, 1377 01:12:25,133 --> 01:12:30,133 and when they finally had it ready for shakedown trials 1378 01:12:31,267 --> 01:12:34,133 to take out to the moon and back, 1379 01:12:34,133 --> 01:12:35,867 the first time they took it out 1380 01:12:35,867 --> 01:12:38,200 to 10,000 feet over Dog Bone Lake 1381 01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,100 and just to see how well they can control it, 1382 01:12:41,100 --> 01:12:43,200 and then they took it back to the hangar 1383 01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:44,933 and then a couple weeks later, 1384 01:12:44,933 --> 01:12:47,767 they took it with the crew on board. 1385 01:12:49,900 --> 01:12:52,067 - Thank you. - Thank you so much. 1386 01:12:52,067 --> 01:12:53,633 - Oh, well, thank you. 1387 01:12:53,633 --> 01:12:55,300 (applauding) 1388 01:12:55,300 --> 01:12:56,867 All right, let's see. 1389 01:12:56,867 --> 01:12:58,167 (coughing) 1390 01:12:58,167 --> 01:13:00,667 I'm not in very good health. 1391 01:13:00,667 --> 01:13:05,633 I used to be able to talk for three days without gasping 1392 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,600 for breath and now I'm down to a mere 24 hours. 1393 01:13:10,300 --> 01:13:13,600 I'm trying to make the hallucination go away. 1394 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,567 Then he stopped and the look on his face was one 1395 01:13:16,567 --> 01:13:20,100 of tremendous disappointment with me. 1396 01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:24,533 Gee, I thought you were brighter than that, you know? 1397 01:13:26,833 --> 01:13:29,400 (gentle music) 1398 01:14:24,767 --> 01:14:27,267 (eerie music) 1399 01:14:41,133 --> 01:14:43,533 - [Radio] I see that thing too. 1400 01:14:43,533 --> 01:14:45,067 But if there's, look at that thing. 1401 01:14:45,067 --> 01:14:46,467 It's fascinating. 1402 01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,800 - I remember those films and I watched them, 1403 01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,600 the ones with the white Tic Tacs. 1404 01:14:56,300 --> 01:15:01,300 It appears to me that those are perfectly authentic. 1405 01:15:01,300 --> 01:15:03,800 But those white Tic Tacs, that is what 1406 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,433 a Tall White scout craft looks like. 1407 01:15:07,433 --> 01:15:12,433 The pilot of the craft, when he's chasing them, 1408 01:15:13,533 --> 01:15:15,067 he doesn't have a prayer of catching them 1409 01:15:15,067 --> 01:15:19,700 because they were able to accelerate too fast, okay? 1410 01:15:20,567 --> 01:15:21,800 It means that their scout craft 1411 01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,100 would undoubtedly be running powered up 1412 01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:30,100 to protect themself from accidents and stuff like that. 1413 01:15:31,267 --> 01:15:35,533 But it also means that the pilot was only told 1414 01:15:37,300 --> 01:15:40,800 what he needed to be told. 1415 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,633 Namely, go out and fly your airplane, okay? 1416 01:15:44,633 --> 01:15:47,833 So I think of that, it's my belief 1417 01:15:47,833 --> 01:15:50,900 that those films were perfectly authentic. 1418 01:15:54,467 --> 01:15:55,967 (light music) 1419 01:15:55,967 --> 01:15:58,433 One of the topics I used to hear 1420 01:15:58,433 --> 01:16:01,667 the American generals talking about with 1421 01:16:01,667 --> 01:16:06,067 the Tall White generals was the existence 1422 01:16:06,067 --> 01:16:10,067 of earth-like planets nearby, 1423 01:16:11,233 --> 01:16:14,267 nearby being within 10 light-years or so, 1424 01:16:14,267 --> 01:16:18,200 where intelligent life had not yet evolved. 1425 01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,400 They said there were several, like a half dozen or so. 1426 01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,567 The Tall White generals said that, on these planets, 1427 01:16:24,567 --> 01:16:27,900 they had tried to put on bases of their own 1428 01:16:27,900 --> 01:16:31,967 to support their commercial activity. 1429 01:16:31,967 --> 01:16:35,700 So they have a safe place for their craft 1430 01:16:35,700 --> 01:16:39,100 to put in and repair, and that they had not been able 1431 01:16:39,100 --> 01:16:42,467 to because the planets were running as cold as 1432 01:16:42,467 --> 01:16:44,500 the earth or colder. 1433 01:16:44,500 --> 01:16:49,100 And the Tall Whites come from a very warm planet 1434 01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:51,533 and they like it a lot hotter. 1435 01:16:51,533 --> 01:16:56,200 And they offered to give these planets, 1436 01:16:56,200 --> 01:17:00,400 to give them lock, stock and barrel, these planets, 1437 01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,100 to the American generals. 1438 01:17:03,100 --> 01:17:06,400 And in return, they wanted the American generals 1439 01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:11,267 to build, on each planet, just one base for 1440 01:17:11,267 --> 01:17:14,233 the Tall Whites so that they had a place 1441 01:17:14,233 --> 01:17:18,067 to put in with their deep spacecraft to repair, 1442 01:17:18,067 --> 01:17:21,200 refuel and refurbish before standing out 1443 01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,700 to deep space again. 1444 01:17:23,700 --> 01:17:27,267 And the American generals were very keen on colonizing 1445 01:17:27,267 --> 01:17:30,433 these planets, the discussion revolved around 1446 01:17:30,433 --> 01:17:35,433 how you get there and get back, who owns the bus? 1447 01:17:36,867 --> 01:17:38,800 The Tall White generals did not want to directly share 1448 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:43,300 the deep space propulsion technology, 1449 01:17:43,300 --> 01:17:47,333 so the Tall Whites wanted to be in charge of the buses, 1450 01:17:47,333 --> 01:17:51,733 this craft to go from Earth to these planets and back. 1451 01:17:51,733 --> 01:17:56,467 The American generals wanted to have buses of their own. 1452 01:17:56,467 --> 01:18:01,467 The discussions were very pleasant and very friendly, 1453 01:18:02,567 --> 01:18:04,067 but the American generals wanted there 1454 01:18:04,067 --> 01:18:08,500 to be a path to where they would have their own buses. 1455 01:18:08,500 --> 01:18:13,200 The Tall White generals said that if 1456 01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:17,533 the American generals agreed, in order to build the bases, 1457 01:18:17,533 --> 01:18:21,533 it would be necessary for the Tall Whites 1458 01:18:21,533 --> 01:18:25,900 to bring some material, specialized materials, 1459 01:18:25,900 --> 01:18:30,300 from their other planets to construct the base with. 1460 01:18:30,300 --> 01:18:33,200 I don't know how that discussion turned out 1461 01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:37,300 but I can not imagine that the American generals 1462 01:18:37,300 --> 01:18:42,300 would have said no purely on the transportation issue. 1463 01:18:43,433 --> 01:18:45,667 And so one of the things that I wonder about 1464 01:18:45,667 --> 01:18:49,100 is whether or not that process 1465 01:18:49,100 --> 01:18:52,667 is in play about whether or not America is in 1466 01:18:52,667 --> 01:18:56,833 the process of colonizing other earth-like planets 1467 01:18:56,833 --> 01:19:01,300 that are nearby, say like eight, 10 light years away, 1468 01:19:01,300 --> 01:19:03,933 but where there isn't intelligent life, 1469 01:19:03,933 --> 01:19:08,267 there's just life the way it looks, say, during the Ice Age. 1470 01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,300 And with the privatization of space, 1471 01:19:13,300 --> 01:19:17,333 with private companies building rockets to go into space, 1472 01:19:17,333 --> 01:19:20,900 into orbit, you have a lot more people going up 1473 01:19:20,900 --> 01:19:22,333 and looking around. 1474 01:19:22,333 --> 01:19:26,433 There's far more discussion about intelligent life 1475 01:19:26,433 --> 01:19:30,700 in space from NASA, from all sorts of things, 1476 01:19:30,700 --> 01:19:34,533 than used to be the case in 1965. 1477 01:19:34,533 --> 01:19:38,967 People today are slowly but surely being acclimized 1478 01:19:38,967 --> 01:19:43,967 to the idea that we are not alone in space, okay? 1479 01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,400 That there's other intelligent creatures here, coming here. 1480 01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,200 Sooner or later that will have 1481 01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,100 to be announced to the people. 1482 01:19:52,100 --> 01:19:54,067 It'll have to be broken to them gently. 1483 01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,867 One day I asked The Teacher, she was looking at 1484 01:19:58,867 --> 01:20:03,200 the stars and enjoying herself, which she loved to do, 1485 01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:07,433 I asked her how she wanted me to behave when they came. 1486 01:20:07,433 --> 01:20:08,900 And she looked at me and smiled 1487 01:20:08,900 --> 01:20:12,000 and said she wanted me to feel honored 1488 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,900 and she wanted me to enjoy being around them 1489 01:20:14,900 --> 01:20:16,533 while they were there. 1490 01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:22,900 I haven't seen them since 1967, that I'm certain of, 1491 01:20:22,900 --> 01:20:25,533 but I can't imagine that they wouldn't be here. 1492 01:20:25,533 --> 01:20:28,600 I've had many reports from other people 1493 01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,467 who say they've seen them here and in 1494 01:20:30,467 --> 01:20:33,533 the deserts north of here and so on, 1495 01:20:33,533 --> 01:20:36,400 but it's my guess that they're still here. 1496 01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:41,400 Since they came here about 5,000 BC, that's my guess, 1497 01:20:42,867 --> 01:20:44,467 I can't imagine that they wouldn't still be here. 1498 01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,267 They were very focused on what their needs were. 1499 01:20:50,700 --> 01:20:52,700 There always had to be something in it for them. 1500 01:20:53,900 --> 01:20:55,933 I can't imagine they would have any reason 1501 01:20:55,933 --> 01:20:58,033 to actually come and see me. 1502 01:20:59,900 --> 01:21:01,300 Now that I'm old. 1503 01:21:03,167 --> 01:21:07,100 And so, if they had a reason to talk to me, 1504 01:21:08,533 --> 01:21:11,467 yes, I wouldn't have any problem meeting with them. 1505 01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:16,800 (upbeat acoustic music) 115687

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