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[interviewer] Say your nameand what your relationship
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...is to Margaret Moth.
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[Jeff]
Oh, that's tough.
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[movie projector whirring]
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My name is Jeff Russi...
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[camera shutter clicks]
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...and Margaretwas my first girlfriend.
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[camera shutter clicks]
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I was 17 and she was 30.
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And I ran away from home,
joined the circus.
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[laughs]
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[camera shutter clicks]
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[interviewer] Who wasMargaret in the circus?
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[camera shutter clicks]
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[Jeff]
She was a lion tamer.
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[projector shutter clicks]
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She wasthe queen of the night.
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[interviewer] Okay,what character are you?
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Mm...
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Oh, I'm one of the clowns,
for sure.
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["Barracuda" playing]
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d So this ain't the endI saw you again d
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d Today d
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d I had to turnMy heart away d
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d Smile like the sunKisses for everyone d
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d And tales, it never fails d
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d You lying so lowIn the weeds d
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d I bet you gonna ambush me d
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d You'd have me down downDown down on my knees d
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d Now wouldn't you,Barracuda? d
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d Oh d
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[instrumental bridge playing]
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d Back over time d
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d We were allTrying for free d
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d You metThe porpoise and me d
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d Uh-huh d
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d No right, no wrongSelling a song d
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d A name d
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d Whisper game d
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d And if the real thingDon't do the trick d
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d You better make upSomething quick d
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d You gonna burnBurn, burn, burn d
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d Burn to the wick d
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d Ooh, Barracuda d
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d Oh, yeah d
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d "Sell me, sell you,"The porpoise said d
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d Dive down deep nowTo save my head d
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d You d
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d I think that you gotThe blues, too d
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-[military siren beeping]
-[ambulance siren wailing]
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[Stefano] So,the first assignment
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I had with Margaret
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was in Baghdad.
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I was a few yearsinto being a correspondent,
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and part of me wanted out.
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I was sick of it.
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I was kind of heartbroken
with the cruelty,
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and I got heartbroken
with innocent people...
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...going through...
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...awful, awful stuff.
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But Margaret didn't seemto feel the same way.
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[man shouting]
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[Stefano] For betteror for worse,
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war is an amazing feeling.
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Mind blowing.
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-[metal crashing]
-[shots firing]
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[man]
Where is everyone?
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[Stefano] You've neverexperienced
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anything like this.
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It's an emotional,psychological,
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sensory explosion.
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[loud explosion]
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Nothing compares.
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[men panting]
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[man]
Keep going.
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[woman] Like this.
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[Stefano] Margaret gota little bit excited by it.
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Any such experiencesor emotions,
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Margaret drank up.
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[gun shots]
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She just drank 'em up.
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She was fearless.
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She was always cool-headed.
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She had a sense
of not just a pretty pictures,
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...but of sort
of the reality here,
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...the messy,
human reality of war.
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And she'd getthat in the shot.
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[indistinct voices]
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[Stefano] She was calm,collected,
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but she was on.
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She was recording history.
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[electro rock music playing]
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Across the Gulf Coast,
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you can't sing the part
company with the rain.
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[electro rock music continues]
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[Jeff] I wasa straight 'A' student
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and sold weedat Westbury High School,
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the highest academicschool in Houston.
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I did workat the Pizza Restaurant.
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That was like 25 feetaway from her front door.
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This guy named John,
he came down and asked around.
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He said, "Is anybody selling
acid or weed or whatever."
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And they pointed
to me, you know.
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So, ran upstairs...
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Walk in,it's a tiny little space.
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And there was peacockfeathers and old paintings
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and antiquefurniture, Danish oak.
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And she's sitting atthe table,
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and she's smoking a pipe.
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And that was the first timeI met Margaret Moth.
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She was so exotic.
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I thought she wasa gypsy fortune teller.
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She saidshe was from New Zealand.
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You know, if you'd asked mewhere New Zealand was,
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and then spun the globe,
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there was no way.
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Like, I had no ideawhere New Zealand was.
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I didn't even know it wasoff the coast of Australia.
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She was the first camera womanfor Television New Zealand.
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I mean, she was justtoo cool for me.
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That's for sure.
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I was so geeky,
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tripping over my shoe strings
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and making straight 'A's.
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And I had no idea that anybodywould have thought
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I was attractive or anything.
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And then she started spinning
this weird tale all that.
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Now, I was
this really cute guy.
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We got togetherin the summer
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betweenmy 11th and 12th grade,
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your last year of high school.
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I never went to 12th grade.
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[camera shutter clicking]
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I forgotthat it was even happening.
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As soon as I startedhanging out with Margaret,
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things changed.
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Partied our asses off.
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I mean, it turnedmy life upside down.
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I mean, I was one ofthe coolest kids in town then.
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It was weird.
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I just startedstaying in her house.
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I rememberher giving me a drawer.
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Such a big day, you know.
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She was an alien to me.
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And the alien said,"Hey, want to do some acid?"
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[laughs]
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[upbeat music playing]
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We did acid every weekend.
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We were always tripping.
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Margaret wasan experienced traveller.
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She got out there.She went a long way out.
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She was like,
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[in monotone] "I don't know
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how we're going
to get back to Earth."
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[punk rock music playing]
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Skating was huge for us.
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So there was a big groupof skaters in Houston called
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The Urban Animals.
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They were intodifferent drugs. [chuckles]
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They were the heroin crowd.
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And we were speed crowd.
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[punk rock music playing]
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Friday we wouldgo to the punk club.
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The one punk club in townin Houston, Texas,
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called The Island.
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[plane propeller whirring]
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And then on a Saturday
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we'd get up and go skydiving.
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[Margaret on screen] My fatherhad photographs
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of paratroopersduring the war.
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But I never realized thenthat civilians could jump.
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And it was my big ambition
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when I was a kid,to be a paratrooper.
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[Jeff] If somebody got boring,they're gone, for sure.
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[Margaret] Soit doesn't matter
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how closeit comes to this and jumping.
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It just never seems badwhen you're actually doing it.
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Today, I'm just going
to be having a lot of fun.
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[chuckles]
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[Jeff] To Margaret,you know, that's right.
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If they werewith the Ten Commandments,
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"Don't be boring."
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She had a good time
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and she took everybodyalong with her.
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You know,nothing was out of bounds.
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I mean,
we had an open relationship
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from the very beginning.
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[music stops]
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She just had a network of guysthat she dealt with.
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She played the field.
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But I never doubted fora minute
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that she wasn't inlove with me
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or that I wasn'tin love with her.
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[news jingle plays]
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[man over TV] K-H-O-U-T-V,Houston.
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[Joe] Back in 1984,
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I was internedby K-H-O-U in Houston, Texas.
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And, one afternoon,
I was sitting at the desk
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and I looked across
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and this woman with spiky
jet black hair walked in,
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and it just totallycaught my attention.
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She became my good friend,
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and we started going' out
and partying quite a bit.
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[rock and roll music playing]
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She lookedso rock and roll 24-7.
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She was always,
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you know,Joan Jett's big sister.
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[on TV] Pilots
for Eastern Airlines
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write up a new contract,
but they aren't looking...
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[Joe] She was working inwhat they call
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the Southwest Bureau.
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So it was a lot of politics.
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She wasn't interestedin politics.
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She wasn't interestedin shooting politician
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holding a news conference.
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Margaret preferred to go out
on a hurricane
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and chase a hurricane.
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That was the kind ofassignment Margaret wanted.
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[man yelling]
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That's the kind of assignmentthat she volunteered for.
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She wanted to bewhere the shit was happening.
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And in her mind, that placewas behind a news camera.
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[camera shutter clicks]
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You know, she's got a bazookaon her shoulder.
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[camera shutter clicks]
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You better watch out.
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[on TV] Now, Dan's goingto have complete report
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on that, a little laterin the program...
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[Joe] I mean,this is Houston, Texas.
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I mean, they werelike, you know,
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right-wing, Republicanconservatives, you know,
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a female cameramanin a male-dominated world.
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That definitelygave her a charge.
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She did what she wanted.
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She dressed
the way she wanted.
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She said whatever she wanted,
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and it was somethingthat people were in awe of.
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[camera shutter clicks]
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[Jeff] I was fascinated.
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How could this personbe so different?
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I'd ask her things
about her past
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and she said,
"I don't remember."
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You know, "What about your
family?
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What about your dad?"
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"I don't remember."
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And that just addedto her mystique to me.
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[mysterious music playing]
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The only thing she evertold me about herself
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was that she had hadto go to court
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to get her tubes tied...
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to get herself sterilized.
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She said, "I'm not a breeder.
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I want nothingto do with that."
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Her only motto was,
"No regrets."
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She didn't look back.
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[man on TV] In 1980,CNN revolutionized
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the waythe world watches news.
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[on TV] 7 This news servicewill be called
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The Cable News Network
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and willprogram 24 hours a day.
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[Stefano] CNN was the shitright then.
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I mean, it was the shit.
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[man on TV] For the moment,the iron fist
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ofthe People's Liberation Army
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has come downon Tiananmen Square
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in the heart of Beijing.
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[Stefano] You know,they had an impact.
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[Tom] By showing the worldthe impact of war,
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our world was better informed.
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This was a new era.
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[Tom] Women were emerging as
strong, strong professionals
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in the field of
photojournalism.
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And there wasa kick-ass spirit to Margaret.
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And Margaret was always
looking for an opportunity.
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They picked her up.
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She was justa perfect candidate.
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When she got the job with CNN
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and she said she was goingto work at the Dallas bureau,
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it was like, "Ah, fuck."
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[laughs]
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So I just assumedI would move to Dallas.
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You know, I'd visit,
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but she didn't ever want me,to like, move there.
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When Margaret and I met,I was writing songs.
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I mean,I had this little notebook
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of songs that I tookeverywhere I went.
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And I'm certainly writingsongs for her.
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First love of my life.
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I handed her my book one time,
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and I said, you know,"What do you think?"
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She just, like, flat out said,
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"It soundskind of trite to me."
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I mean, that was a shock.
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And I didn't write anotherword as a lyric for years.
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[on TV] I'm Lou Waters. Hello.
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The world is in the midstof a tense waiting game,
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waiting to find outif and when there will be war
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in the Persian Gulf.
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[techno music playing]
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[Schwarzkopf] So far,defensive is progressing
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with dramatic success.
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The troops are doinga great job.
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[man on TV] I can hearthe sound of planes...
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[Jeff] Her first warwas Desert Storm.
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[man on TV] More thanone billion heavily armed men
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sent to confront one anotherin the Gulf.
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[tense music playing]
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[man on TV] Wehave been watching
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an incredible display
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of anti-aircraft firing.
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[Jeff] She got on so wellwith military people,
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because she was so ballsy.
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General Schwarzkopftook a liking to her,
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and they smoked cigarsin the evening.
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And she was therein the war zone.
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That's where she feltthe most comfortable.
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I think that's where she knewshe was who she was.
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At a certain point,
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sex, drugs, and rock and rolljust wasn't enough.
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War was the ultimate drug.
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Desert Storm waswhere she made it.
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Her dream had come true.
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Yes, one, two, three,
four, five, you hear me.
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People were quite intimidated
by Margaret Moth.
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Even I was.
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Christiane Amanpour,
CNN, Sarajevo.
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You know, in Sarajevo, she
used to sleep with her boots
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and her black
combat trousers on.
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You know,
I'm like, "Margaret..."
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and she's, "Oh, no,
I've got to be ready."
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Margaret had a wish to show
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the story as she saw it
in the raw.
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[man on TV] A community,united in grief...
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[Susan] She wasa very serious camerawoman.
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[Stefano] She likedto get in tight.
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When she went in,
she went in tight.
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[Susan] Margaretwas very switched on.
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She was like a whole package.
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Uncompromising.
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That's what I liked.
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Didn't faff around.
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Didn't suck up to people.
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And was very goodat what she did.
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She had a natural, physical,
and mental fortitude
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that needed to
find expression.
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And in danger,
going into war zones.
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[Joe] The way she could justnot sleep for days
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and also she couldgo without food,
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it wasn't normal for a person
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to have that kind of
endurance.
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And I remember
looking at her, like,
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"Don't you ever get tired?"
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She's like, "No."
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[scoffs]
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It made her perfectfor covering war.
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Margaret never made
anything about being a female.
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She just did it.
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You know,she'd get comments and things,
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but I mean, she just...
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[scoffs]
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"Look at me.
Here's the camera."
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"This is what I do." You know.
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[man on TV] ThreeIraqi soldiers today
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were captured at a roadblock,
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manned by the Kuwaitiresistance.
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We didn't have things like
Instagram and social media
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and, you know, iPhones.
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What was happeningthat particular day
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caused us tofollow that story.
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[Sausan] You always wantedsomebody like Margaret
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with you in the field.
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Her camerais an extension for herself.
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So she's drawn to the story,
through the camera,
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and she just follows it.
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[Stefano] As a journalist,I had this romantic notion
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that we're supposed to makethis a better place.
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We're supposed to bring up
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the good in every person
and all that.
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She was more cynical.
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And I think for her,
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the photographs, the image,the video she captured
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was shoved in your face.
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"Here it is."
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And she had no more trouble
with it than that.
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It was like,
"Here it is. Take it."
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"This is your shit."
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[ominous music playing]
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[Jeff] Maybe it's notthe best metaphor
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that Margaret's camerawas a gun.
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It's more like a spotlight.
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She was shedding lighton people behaving badly.
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[indistinct talking]
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The most valuable thingthat she can imagine
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was being where
history is being changed.
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But I could neverfollow her there.
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[indistinct voices]
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[woman on TV] The BBCis reporting
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that Iraq has fired
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five Scud missilesat Saudi Arabia.
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The Pentagon is now confirming12 dead and 25 injured.
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[ambulance siren wailing]
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[bomb explosions]
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[Yaschinka]
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[laughs]
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[in French]
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Well.
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[man on TV] We havean air raid alert
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people are being takento shelters.
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[Yaschinka]
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[blows raspberries]
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[laughs]
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[President George Bush]
Kuwait is liberated.
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Iraq's army is defeated.
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Our militaryobjectives are met.
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[Yaschinka]
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[camera shutter clicking]
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[laughs]
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[laughs]
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Yaschinka was just there.
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00:23:21,927 --> 00:23:24,763
He wasn't a part
of the long-term plan.
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00:23:24,897 --> 00:23:28,000
He wasn't a part
of her life, you know?
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When she came back to Houston,we did everything together.
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They had nothing like we had.
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00:23:37,943 --> 00:23:39,978
I just knewhe was a heroin addict.
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I said, "Wow, I mean... you're
going out with a heroin a...
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00:23:43,815 --> 00:23:45,717
Don't they just go to sleep
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00:23:45,851 --> 00:23:48,053
and not want to have
sex and all that?"
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00:23:48,186 --> 00:23:50,355
And she said, "No,
it's quite the opposite."
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00:23:50,488 --> 00:23:51,757
[chuckles softly]
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00:23:51,890 --> 00:23:53,525
So, when he would visit her
in Dallas
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00:23:53,659 --> 00:23:55,227
and they'd go,
score some heroin
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00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:56,995
and fuck all night. [laughs]
434
00:23:57,763 --> 00:24:00,732
So it was like,
speed was for us, you know.
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00:24:00,866 --> 00:24:02,935
So she enjoyed that.
436
00:24:05,671 --> 00:24:07,806
It is different after that.
437
00:24:09,473 --> 00:24:10,509
She was different.
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00:24:10,642 --> 00:24:11,777
[helicopter blades whirring]
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00:24:11,910 --> 00:24:13,444
She definitely wanted
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to be where peoplewere doing something wrong...
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Where she had a purpose.
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00:24:23,088 --> 00:24:25,489
CNN was just a different drug.
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00:24:34,433 --> 00:24:36,201
[helicopter blades whirring]
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00:24:36,335 --> 00:24:40,072
[ominous music playing]
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00:24:48,246 --> 00:24:50,148
Depending on
your personality makeup,
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you may want to brag
about war and call it...
447
00:24:52,851 --> 00:24:54,786
it's... it's intoxicating.
448
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,588
If you're like me,
you don't want to glorify it
449
00:24:56,722 --> 00:24:58,056
'Cause it's just awful.
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00:24:58,190 --> 00:24:59,524
It is awful.
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00:24:59,958 --> 00:25:02,327
But that said,
your experience of it
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is an incredibly complex
concoction
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of adrenaline,
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this and that
and upset and surge.
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00:25:09,568 --> 00:25:12,371
And so you could be upset
and excited at the same time.
456
00:25:12,504 --> 00:25:15,007
So, while
I hate to glorify it,
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00:25:15,140 --> 00:25:17,209
you also...
It was kind of a rush.
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[camera shutter clicking]
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00:25:18,543 --> 00:25:20,245
War is a tough job.
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00:25:20,379 --> 00:25:22,180
And we self-medicate it.
461
00:25:24,383 --> 00:25:25,650
This is life and death.
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[Yaschinka]
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If you talk to veterans, too,
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there were soldiers, they'll
tell you the same thing.
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You come
back to civilian life...
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00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:03,889
and it's kind of lonely
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00:26:04,022 --> 00:26:06,526
because nobody
will understand your stories,
468
00:26:06,658 --> 00:26:11,363
the strange serotonin
chemical level,
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adrenaline, all this stuff.
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Of course, you're trying
to tell that story
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00:26:14,699 --> 00:26:16,034
of that experience
and they think
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you're telling a glory story
and you're not.
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00:26:17,903 --> 00:26:19,304
And it's very lonely.
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[Yaschinka]
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[laughs]
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[techno music playing]
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[man on TV] On the streetsof Gagra,
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the Ossetian battlefor independence goes on.
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[Stefano] Desert stormhas just ended.
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The Soviet Union was over.
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There was a civil war
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in the formerSoviet Republic of Georgia.
483
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And the gunman,the militiamen,
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for the new governmentthat was trying to take over,
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open fire on the crowd.
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When the firing started,
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the other cameraman
ducked behind the cars,
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and trying to wait to see
what shots they can get.
489
00:27:30,709 --> 00:27:33,912
And one cameraman, later on,
back at the hotel, said to me,
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00:27:34,045 --> 00:27:36,414
"I'm hiding behind the car
to get out of the gunfire.
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00:27:36,549 --> 00:27:38,850
And I suddenly see a shadow
across my arms,
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00:27:38,984 --> 00:27:40,785
and I think, 'what the hell,'
I look up....
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00:27:40,919 --> 00:27:43,655
And there's Margaret,
standing straight upright,
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not hiding behind the
vehicles, filming the action."
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00:27:46,892 --> 00:27:49,694
[crowd uproar]
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00:27:49,828 --> 00:27:51,363
[Stefano] She gotthe only pictures,
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she's filming peoplegoing down as they get hit.
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The other cameraman peoplewere kind of startled
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that she had the guts
to just say, "Uh-oh."
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and step right out
in the middle of it.
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00:28:01,574 --> 00:28:04,843
[Jeff] She took huge chanceswith her life.
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00:28:05,677 --> 00:28:08,079
She came across somebodythat was a bully.
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00:28:08,213 --> 00:28:09,848
[Margaret] Who are you?
Who are you?
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00:28:09,981 --> 00:28:12,552
[Jeff] She just took him down,
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00:28:13,218 --> 00:28:15,954
and she did itbecause she had to.
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00:28:18,624 --> 00:28:20,425
She just became fearless.
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00:28:23,428 --> 00:28:24,763
[interviewer] And do youever dream
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00:28:24,896 --> 00:28:26,331
that anything could go wrong?
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00:28:27,132 --> 00:28:30,936
[Jeff] No. No, I thoughtshe was the indestructible.
510
00:28:32,837 --> 00:28:35,040
[indistinct noise]
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00:28:36,374 --> 00:28:38,678
[Stefano] I rememberdriving around Baghdad.
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We stopped
at the marketplace, a souk,
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00:28:41,681 --> 00:28:42,914
and it was big and it was...
514
00:28:43,048 --> 00:28:45,050
there were stalls
and this and oranges
515
00:28:45,183 --> 00:28:46,652
and cucumbers and...
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00:28:46,785 --> 00:28:48,353
Margaret got out of the car.
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00:28:50,188 --> 00:28:51,823
There are all these kidsand they're all coming up
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00:28:51,957 --> 00:28:53,925
and looking at Margaret andlaughing and like, "Ho, ho!"
519
00:28:54,059 --> 00:28:56,562
she sees so...She's so wild to them.
520
00:28:57,229 --> 00:28:58,863
And the kids are allcrowding into the shot,
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00:28:58,997 --> 00:29:00,298
trying to get into the shot.
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00:29:00,432 --> 00:29:02,167
Like 30, 40,50 are crowding in.
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00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:05,705
And I've never seen a humancrowd act like gasoline.
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00:29:06,438 --> 00:29:09,040
It's just like a... [imitates
explosion] spreading.
525
00:29:09,808 --> 00:29:11,109
All of a sudden,out of the crowd
526
00:29:11,243 --> 00:29:13,111
emerges some plain clothesmen,
527
00:29:13,245 --> 00:29:15,548
and he wants to puta stop to it.
528
00:29:16,181 --> 00:29:17,749
He stupidly goes up to...
[chuckles]
529
00:29:17,882 --> 00:29:20,952
front and front of Margaret
and he pushes the camera away,
530
00:29:21,086 --> 00:29:22,354
and it bangs her on the nose.
531
00:29:22,487 --> 00:29:24,089
Her viewfinder bangs
on the nose.
532
00:29:24,222 --> 00:29:26,825
She stands up and in front
of hundreds of people
533
00:29:26,958 --> 00:29:29,995
in Saddam's Iraq,
in Saddam's city,
534
00:29:30,128 --> 00:29:33,298
she goes, "Don't you ever...".
[slaps loudly]
535
00:29:36,167 --> 00:29:37,703
I never... [sighs]
536
00:29:37,836 --> 00:29:41,239
fully understood whatwas ticking inside of her.
537
00:29:44,109 --> 00:29:46,311
But I always felt that,
my God, you know,
538
00:29:46,444 --> 00:29:48,380
there's a deep anger
in there somewhere.
539
00:29:48,514 --> 00:29:51,383
I mean, you could sense
that behind all of that,
540
00:29:51,517 --> 00:29:54,085
it came from a place
of anger and defiance.
541
00:29:54,219 --> 00:29:55,954
You, know,
when something sparked
542
00:29:56,087 --> 00:29:57,822
that kind of behaviour,
543
00:29:57,956 --> 00:29:59,291
it did make me wonder
544
00:29:59,424 --> 00:30:02,360
why she would be,
you know, such a...
545
00:30:04,162 --> 00:30:06,064
such a change in character?
546
00:30:08,466 --> 00:30:10,402
[Jeff] Sometimesshe would come home,
547
00:30:11,136 --> 00:30:12,804
and she would'veencountered, like,
548
00:30:12,937 --> 00:30:14,906
what we call trigger episodes,
549
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,943
where she would... cry
pretty spontaneously
550
00:30:19,077 --> 00:30:21,547
and non-stop for hours.
551
00:30:23,281 --> 00:30:24,583
That was terrifying.
552
00:30:25,651 --> 00:30:28,521
You know, I had this, like,person you care about
553
00:30:28,654 --> 00:30:32,190
that you've been around withand had so much intimacy with,
554
00:30:32,324 --> 00:30:34,359
You know, tears flowing,
555
00:30:34,492 --> 00:30:35,927
and she can't even bringherself
556
00:30:36,061 --> 00:30:37,829
to tell me one thingabout it.
557
00:30:38,798 --> 00:30:40,131
What the fuck?
558
00:30:41,366 --> 00:30:43,335
When you're looking back,
I can figure things out.
559
00:30:43,468 --> 00:30:45,437
I can put things
together over the years,
560
00:30:45,571 --> 00:30:48,574
but back then, it wasa total fucking mystery.
561
00:30:54,045 --> 00:30:56,414
[Yaschinka]
562
00:31:33,151 --> 00:31:35,120
There was something
that she just didn't like
563
00:31:35,253 --> 00:31:38,356
about family
traditional settings,
564
00:31:38,490 --> 00:31:41,292
and there were times whenwe would have Christmas dinner
565
00:31:41,426 --> 00:31:43,027
and it was, you know, friends.
566
00:31:43,662 --> 00:31:47,198
But Margaret preferred
not to have kids around.
567
00:31:48,868 --> 00:31:51,302
[Jeff] Margaret's rocket fuelwas anger.
568
00:31:53,905 --> 00:31:55,541
You never stopped sensing
569
00:31:55,674 --> 00:31:57,510
that somewhere in there,
570
00:31:57,643 --> 00:32:00,311
something was propelling herlike a bat out of hell,
571
00:32:00,445 --> 00:32:03,915
out of her own past,her own childhood.
572
00:32:09,822 --> 00:32:12,424
We were hanging out,you know, in Houston
573
00:32:12,558 --> 00:32:15,694
and we're just, like, doingwhat we do around the table.
574
00:32:16,695 --> 00:32:18,463
I'd be playing my bass
575
00:32:20,098 --> 00:32:21,600
and she's started to draw...
576
00:32:22,967 --> 00:32:27,038
[sombre music playing]
577
00:32:30,543 --> 00:32:33,244
I mean,there's a nightmare for you.
578
00:32:34,580 --> 00:32:37,315
Who'd draw stufflike that, you know?
579
00:32:38,349 --> 00:32:42,487
[melancholic music playing]
580
00:32:47,492 --> 00:32:50,395
It's come straightout of her childhood.
581
00:32:56,267 --> 00:32:58,403
You know, she wasa terrified little girl
582
00:32:58,537 --> 00:33:00,639
asking somebodynot to hurt her.
583
00:33:02,307 --> 00:33:03,943
But to me,the most significant thing
584
00:33:04,075 --> 00:33:06,812
in those sketcheswas that she drew herself
585
00:33:06,946 --> 00:33:09,280
with the black hairand the dark eyes
586
00:33:09,981 --> 00:33:11,483
when she was a child.
587
00:33:12,651 --> 00:33:15,721
Like, that she thoughtof herself that way,
588
00:33:15,855 --> 00:33:17,255
that long ago.
589
00:33:18,591 --> 00:33:21,292
She was activelyrewriting her story
590
00:33:21,426 --> 00:33:24,162
while that trauma wasstill being visited on her.
591
00:33:27,499 --> 00:33:28,868
Margaret Moth was a character.
592
00:33:29,434 --> 00:33:31,002
Moth is not her last name.
593
00:33:31,135 --> 00:33:32,505
Her last name is Wilson.
594
00:33:33,772 --> 00:33:35,941
She had inventedthe entire thing
595
00:33:36,074 --> 00:33:37,342
a long time ago.
596
00:33:40,178 --> 00:33:41,279
She was a littleblonde-haired,
597
00:33:41,412 --> 00:33:42,681
blue-eyed,12-year-old
598
00:33:42,815 --> 00:33:44,717
when she conceivedof that look.
599
00:33:48,654 --> 00:33:52,725
Why she rejected herblonde, blue-eyed self?
600
00:33:54,158 --> 00:33:55,426
It was a mystery.
601
00:34:01,634 --> 00:34:04,135
[Jan] We were nevera close family.
602
00:34:05,403 --> 00:34:07,606
We were never told
that we were loved, ever,
603
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:08,974
by either parent.
604
00:34:10,074 --> 00:34:12,443
We never knew whether dadwas gonna come home sober
605
00:34:12,578 --> 00:34:14,379
or come homeat all, half the time.
606
00:34:14,847 --> 00:34:17,415
And six o'clock, we'd hear
the car come up the driveway
607
00:34:17,550 --> 00:34:21,020
and all our little faces
would turned towards the door
608
00:34:21,152 --> 00:34:22,420
as he walked in and youcould...
609
00:34:22,555 --> 00:34:24,690
you could justfeel the tension.
610
00:34:27,058 --> 00:34:28,426
[Ross] It was quite scary.
611
00:34:29,628 --> 00:34:31,296
But Mum was probablymore violent
612
00:34:31,429 --> 00:34:33,331
- than what Dad was. [chuckles]
-[Jan] Yes.
613
00:34:34,700 --> 00:34:36,535
When she lost it,
her eyes... [chuckles]
614
00:34:36,802 --> 00:34:39,772
her eyes would go black
like a demon.
615
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,108
[Jan] I remember Margaretsaying about that,
616
00:34:44,242 --> 00:34:45,443
you know,
"Beware of Mum's eyes."
617
00:34:45,578 --> 00:34:47,245
-"They will go black."
-Yeah.
618
00:34:47,378 --> 00:34:49,582
It was pretty violent
discipline in those days.
619
00:34:49,715 --> 00:34:52,083
It was either a hairbrush
or a coat hanger
620
00:34:52,216 --> 00:34:53,752
or a razor strop or a belt.
621
00:34:53,886 --> 00:34:56,055
[laughs sadly]
622
00:34:56,187 --> 00:34:59,324
It used to wrap
right around her hand.
623
00:34:59,457 --> 00:35:02,595
Hold her hand out and it
would wrap right round.
624
00:35:03,094 --> 00:35:04,630
with a buckle.
625
00:35:05,698 --> 00:35:08,000
She said, "If the pill had
been around in those days...
626
00:35:08,132 --> 00:35:09,635
none of youse
would've been here."
627
00:35:09,768 --> 00:35:11,469
[laughs]
628
00:35:13,872 --> 00:35:16,875
[Jeff] Margaret startedshredding the ties that bind
629
00:35:17,009 --> 00:35:18,711
at a very young age.
630
00:35:20,012 --> 00:35:23,348
[sombre music playing]
631
00:35:24,516 --> 00:35:27,151
[Yaschinka in French]
632
00:36:07,993 --> 00:36:09,561
[laughs]
633
00:36:11,462 --> 00:36:13,632
[sombre music playing]
634
00:36:16,635 --> 00:36:20,773
[machine guns firing]
635
00:36:20,906 --> 00:36:23,408
[firing continues]
636
00:36:23,542 --> 00:36:25,343
The first time I met
and worked with Margaret
637
00:36:25,476 --> 00:36:29,815
was in Sarajevo
in June and July of 1992.
638
00:36:29,948 --> 00:36:31,684
[man on TV] The peopleof Sarajevo
639
00:36:31,817 --> 00:36:34,119
have been under siegefor almost eight months.
640
00:36:34,252 --> 00:36:35,721
They have very little food,
641
00:36:35,854 --> 00:36:38,590
no electricityand almost no water.
642
00:36:39,223 --> 00:36:40,458
[loud thud]
643
00:36:40,592 --> 00:36:41,593
[Christiane] This,at the time,
644
00:36:41,727 --> 00:36:44,029
was the worst war in Europe
645
00:36:44,163 --> 00:36:46,197
since the end of World War II.
646
00:36:46,865 --> 00:36:49,068
It's war against civilians.
It's a war crime.
647
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,838
And that's what Margaret's
pictures started to record.
648
00:36:52,971 --> 00:36:54,973
[man 2 on TV] Snipers hiddenin these buildings,
649
00:36:55,107 --> 00:36:56,474
which the Serbs control,
650
00:36:56,608 --> 00:36:58,977
kill or wound peoplealmost every day.
651
00:36:59,111 --> 00:37:00,679
-[gunshots]
-[man 2 on TV] Sniper Alley,
652
00:37:00,813 --> 00:37:03,649
the most dangerous roadin Sarajevo.
653
00:37:03,782 --> 00:37:05,150
[gunfire]
654
00:37:05,283 --> 00:37:06,952
[Christiane on TV] Evenwhen the big guns go quiet,
655
00:37:07,086 --> 00:37:08,854
the snipers never quit.
656
00:37:08,987 --> 00:37:10,756
Barely a minute goes by
657
00:37:10,889 --> 00:37:13,992
without snipers firinga terrified resident.
658
00:37:14,727 --> 00:37:17,261
You know, the captors
or the aggressors
659
00:37:17,395 --> 00:37:18,831
could see the victims.
660
00:37:18,964 --> 00:37:20,599
They could see themthrough their sights,
661
00:37:20,733 --> 00:37:23,702
because they were just a few
hundred yards over there.
662
00:37:23,836 --> 00:37:27,706
And they actually, physically,
took aim at children...
663
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,808
[gun shots fire]
664
00:37:29,942 --> 00:37:31,610
running, trying to crossa road,
665
00:37:31,744 --> 00:37:32,978
you know,behind containers.
666
00:37:33,112 --> 00:37:34,580
[loud gunshot]
667
00:37:34,713 --> 00:37:37,448
And the worldstill would not intervene.
668
00:37:37,850 --> 00:37:39,985
[man on TV] Sarajevo'slatest casualty.
669
00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:42,353
He was seven-years-old.
670
00:37:43,922 --> 00:37:46,457
His sister screamed,"Is my brother alive?"
671
00:37:46,592 --> 00:37:48,426
His mother didn't knowthe answer.
672
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:49,862
She too had been hit.
673
00:37:49,995 --> 00:37:51,429
[loud explosion]
674
00:37:52,097 --> 00:37:55,100
[Christiane] We came undermortar fire and attack.
675
00:37:55,234 --> 00:37:56,501
[loud gunfire]
676
00:37:56,635 --> 00:37:58,302
Margaret was out shooting.
677
00:37:58,436 --> 00:38:01,940
Finally, she came back inwhen she got all the pictures.
678
00:38:02,074 --> 00:38:03,675
But it was really scary.
679
00:38:03,809 --> 00:38:05,476
And I remember
saying to my producer,
680
00:38:05,611 --> 00:38:06,779
and then
afterwards to Margaret,
681
00:38:06,912 --> 00:38:08,379
"I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
682
00:38:08,514 --> 00:38:09,915
I'm sorry, I brought you here.
683
00:38:10,048 --> 00:38:12,885
I promise, if we survive,
we'll never do this again.
684
00:38:13,018 --> 00:38:14,418
We'll never put
you in danger again.
685
00:38:14,553 --> 00:38:16,588
I'll never, ever risk
our lives again."
686
00:38:16,722 --> 00:38:18,557
And the very next day, we did.
687
00:38:23,629 --> 00:38:25,329
[Peter] In the early daysin Sarajevo,
688
00:38:25,463 --> 00:38:28,066
there was verylittle protective gear.
689
00:38:28,767 --> 00:38:30,102
There were some flag jackets,
690
00:38:30,235 --> 00:38:32,104
but nobody was wearing
helmets at that time.
691
00:38:32,237 --> 00:38:34,740
You relied on the fact
that you had a press pass,
692
00:38:35,641 --> 00:38:37,643
and your car had "TV."
693
00:38:38,911 --> 00:38:41,847
It was the first timethat jounalists
694
00:38:41,980 --> 00:38:45,717
were deliberatelypicked on by snipers.
695
00:38:45,851 --> 00:38:47,686
[gunshot]
696
00:38:52,090 --> 00:38:54,193
We were plenty-pissed
that the sniper shot at us.
697
00:38:54,325 --> 00:38:56,595
The first time I went out
there, I was really afraid.
698
00:38:56,728 --> 00:38:59,565
I was sitting on the aeroplane
going into, um, Zagreb.
699
00:38:59,698 --> 00:39:01,700
[chuckles] And I thought...
[chuckles]
700
00:39:01,834 --> 00:39:04,102
"Oh, my
God! Say, I lose a leg?
701
00:39:04,236 --> 00:39:05,704
What if I lose a leg?"
702
00:39:05,838 --> 00:39:07,806
I kept thinking I was
gonna lose a leg, not my life,
703
00:39:07,940 --> 00:39:09,508
just, "What am I gonna do?"
You know.
704
00:39:09,641 --> 00:39:11,977
Um, and I think
that's one of the things
705
00:39:12,110 --> 00:39:13,979
that some of us
have said in the past.
706
00:39:14,112 --> 00:39:16,347
If you admit
that you are frightened,
707
00:39:17,415 --> 00:39:20,219
somehow,
you're more concentrated.
708
00:39:20,351 --> 00:39:22,721
Because,
if you're too gung-ho,
709
00:39:22,855 --> 00:39:24,022
you're not really
concentrating
710
00:39:24,156 --> 00:39:24,990
in the right way.
711
00:39:25,123 --> 00:39:26,692
[gunshot]
712
00:39:27,526 --> 00:39:28,426
[Christiane] I remembertelling Margaret
713
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,895
who'd been there
714
00:39:30,028 --> 00:39:31,597
at least two weekslonger than I had,
715
00:39:31,730 --> 00:39:33,298
that she should leave as well,
716
00:39:33,431 --> 00:39:38,003
because there's only so much
Russian roulette you can play.
717
00:39:38,136 --> 00:39:39,738
[gunshots]
718
00:40:11,803 --> 00:40:12,971
When we first went out there,
719
00:40:13,105 --> 00:40:14,072
I met up with Martin Bell
720
00:40:14,206 --> 00:40:16,108
and he showed me
a white Carlton Estate
721
00:40:16,241 --> 00:40:17,276
with no windows.
722
00:40:17,408 --> 00:40:18,844
He said,
"This is the camera car."
723
00:40:18,977 --> 00:40:20,779
"Yeah, great.
Where is the camera car?"
724
00:40:20,913 --> 00:40:22,681
"No, no,
this is the camera car."
725
00:40:24,316 --> 00:40:26,785
So, I mean, we'reall in soft-skin vehicles.
726
00:40:26,919 --> 00:40:29,121
Oh, we sometimes had
"Press" written on the side.
727
00:40:29,254 --> 00:40:30,856
[car engine revving]
728
00:40:30,989 --> 00:40:33,191
But we wouldalso go in convoys.
729
00:40:36,762 --> 00:40:38,297
I think that gives youa certain strength,
730
00:40:38,429 --> 00:40:40,532
the feeling that, you know,we're together in this.
731
00:40:44,269 --> 00:40:46,838
[Stefano] Well, one daywe're driving around town.
732
00:40:46,972 --> 00:40:49,007
The road was clear,
we drove down into the city
733
00:40:49,141 --> 00:40:51,677
to the Holiday Inn, the hotelwe were all staying at.
734
00:40:52,945 --> 00:40:54,613
Now, you have to understand,the Holiday Inn
735
00:40:54,746 --> 00:40:56,181
was not your Holiday Inn.
736
00:40:56,315 --> 00:40:57,282
[chuckles]
737
00:40:57,416 --> 00:40:59,051
It was not your average hotel.
738
00:40:59,184 --> 00:41:00,686
[gunfire]
739
00:41:00,819 --> 00:41:03,055
There's a lot of gunfirehappening around the area.
740
00:41:03,188 --> 00:41:04,423
[gunfire]
741
00:41:04,923 --> 00:41:07,125
It was obviously a verynice hotel before the war,
742
00:41:07,259 --> 00:41:10,028
but it had been struckagain and again.
743
00:41:10,963 --> 00:41:12,463
[gunshot]
744
00:41:12,597 --> 00:41:14,399
[loud explosion]
745
00:41:15,033 --> 00:41:19,004
It was sort of soddenand destroyed and pock-marked.
746
00:41:20,973 --> 00:41:23,642
You have to understandthat war is...
747
00:41:23,775 --> 00:41:26,912
does peculiar things
to the things that you behold,
748
00:41:27,045 --> 00:41:29,581
order and normalcy
that has been shattered.
749
00:41:29,715 --> 00:41:33,685
[ominous music playing]
750
00:41:37,356 --> 00:41:40,225
[Susan] There is somethingpoetic about roads
751
00:41:40,359 --> 00:41:42,160
that have no traffic on.
752
00:41:42,627 --> 00:41:44,863
There's just us.
753
00:41:48,166 --> 00:41:49,901
[Stefano] I remember itlike a nightmare,
754
00:41:50,035 --> 00:41:52,237
but at least in the nightmareyou can flail,
755
00:41:52,371 --> 00:41:55,007
you can panic,and you can wake up.
756
00:41:56,942 --> 00:41:59,544
That day was somethingyou couldn't escape from.
757
00:42:01,013 --> 00:42:04,383
[mysterious music playing]
758
00:42:04,516 --> 00:42:06,818
We have our armed vests on.
759
00:42:11,590 --> 00:42:13,759
You have the big long avenue.
760
00:42:15,460 --> 00:42:16,728
And before,there were nice shrubs
761
00:42:16,862 --> 00:42:18,096
growing down the middle,
762
00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:19,231
they've all beencrushed and dried.
763
00:42:19,364 --> 00:42:21,600
[tense music builds]
764
00:42:21,733 --> 00:42:23,101
The trees were flowering.
765
00:42:23,235 --> 00:42:25,303
Now they've got chips,
aggressive chips
766
00:42:25,437 --> 00:42:27,739
and bark missing and scoured.
767
00:42:27,873 --> 00:42:29,141
The trees have been scoured
768
00:42:29,274 --> 00:42:30,675
and branches
have turned into splinters.
769
00:42:30,809 --> 00:42:32,144
The leaves are all gone.
770
00:42:34,846 --> 00:42:36,782
The trolley lines...
771
00:42:38,650 --> 00:42:40,919
are now snaking
across the ground.
772
00:42:42,087 --> 00:42:43,922
[Susan] They're with thesemetal kind of crosses,
773
00:42:44,056 --> 00:42:46,691
great big metal crosses,like roadblocks.
774
00:42:47,392 --> 00:42:49,261
So you'd have to go round,
775
00:42:49,995 --> 00:42:52,464
which makes it harder
to... to be a target.
776
00:42:53,632 --> 00:42:55,834
[Stefano] You driveany damn way you want.
777
00:42:55,967 --> 00:42:57,402
There's no rules.
778
00:42:57,537 --> 00:43:00,005
We just squirve left into...
like, in the movies,
779
00:43:00,138 --> 00:43:03,475
you go [imitates thumping]
over the trolley lines.
780
00:43:03,608 --> 00:43:04,876
It's Mad Max.
781
00:43:07,312 --> 00:43:10,148
Margaret and Mark are seatedin the back of the van.
782
00:43:10,282 --> 00:43:12,150
I'm seatedin the front passenger seat.
783
00:43:12,284 --> 00:43:14,052
They're saying, "Well,
here's this, here's that,"
784
00:43:14,186 --> 00:43:16,288
and I'm looking, and there's
the apartment buildings there,
785
00:43:16,421 --> 00:43:18,790
and I'm looking left and
right, and all of a sudden...
786
00:43:18,924 --> 00:43:20,592
-[imitates machine gun firing]
-[machine gun firing]
787
00:43:20,725 --> 00:43:22,027
[glass shattering]
788
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,796
[Susan] I sawsome, like, flash.
789
00:43:26,198 --> 00:43:29,334
[Stefano] I just felta mist of glass.
790
00:43:31,169 --> 00:43:32,704
I didn't know whether it'd
gone over mine or something.
791
00:43:32,838 --> 00:43:34,139
I didn't know
what had happened.
792
00:43:34,272 --> 00:43:35,440
I didn't know
if it was a gun or whatever.
793
00:43:35,575 --> 00:43:36,842
It was just like a loud crack.
794
00:43:37,642 --> 00:43:39,010
It's almost like, you know,
795
00:43:39,144 --> 00:43:40,580
you're touching the static
and it goes into it.
796
00:43:40,712 --> 00:43:41,813
It is just that...
[imitates frizzing]
797
00:43:41,947 --> 00:43:43,448
I laughed. I laughed.
798
00:43:43,583 --> 00:43:44,883
And I'm leaning forward now.
799
00:43:45,016 --> 00:43:46,485
I'm hunched down
and I grabbed my helmet
800
00:43:46,618 --> 00:43:47,919
and I put it on my head,
801
00:43:48,053 --> 00:43:50,789
unaware, that behind me,
Margaret's been shot.
802
00:43:52,491 --> 00:43:56,194
Our driver spins the cararound and he starts driving.
803
00:43:57,597 --> 00:43:59,364
You know, we're racing,
I look forward again,
804
00:43:59,498 --> 00:44:00,866
and the next time I look back,
805
00:44:00,999 --> 00:44:03,802
she slumped over this way,
on Mark's shoulder.
806
00:44:03,935 --> 00:44:06,705
He's wearing a white shirt,
and she's starting to go,
807
00:44:06,838 --> 00:44:08,807
[imitates choking]
because she's...
808
00:44:08,940 --> 00:44:11,710
blood is drainingin down her throat.
809
00:44:12,777 --> 00:44:14,614
Her eyes, with her mascara.
810
00:44:14,746 --> 00:44:17,115
Her eyes are like,
diamond sharp light.
811
00:44:18,717 --> 00:44:21,353
We race into town, careeningover the trolley lines
812
00:44:21,486 --> 00:44:24,489
and pull upin front of the hospital.
813
00:44:24,624 --> 00:44:26,291
And I'm screaming,
814
00:44:26,424 --> 00:44:27,192
"You gotta help, she can'tbreathe, you got to help her."
815
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,196
But I don't see
that her jaw is gone.
816
00:44:31,329 --> 00:44:33,198
I think she's holding
it in place, still.
817
00:44:33,331 --> 00:44:36,434
[CNN news opening music]
818
00:44:36,569 --> 00:44:38,069
CNN's Stefan Kutsonis
819
00:44:38,203 --> 00:44:40,172
was with Moth and Delmage
during the shooting,
820
00:44:40,305 --> 00:44:42,642
and he joins us now
from Sarajevo by phone
821
00:44:42,774 --> 00:44:44,176
with an update
on the situation.
822
00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:46,512
We want to warn you
that he has graphic details
823
00:44:46,646 --> 00:44:47,580
of this attack.
824
00:44:47,712 --> 00:44:49,447
Stefan, bring us up to date.
825
00:44:49,881 --> 00:44:51,183
[Stefano on TV] Hello.
826
00:44:51,316 --> 00:44:52,884
First of all,I'd like to say that
827
00:44:53,018 --> 00:44:54,520
Margaret is still insurgery right now,
828
00:44:54,654 --> 00:44:56,188
and the doctors have now said
829
00:44:56,321 --> 00:44:57,956
that it's not guaranteedthat she will survive this.
830
00:44:58,089 --> 00:44:59,559
The severe injuries
831
00:44:59,691 --> 00:45:02,460
to her head and throatare like, very serious.
832
00:45:02,595 --> 00:45:04,262
Uh, even ifshe does survive it,
833
00:45:04,396 --> 00:45:06,464
her life will be verydifferent from now on.
834
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:07,933
I was so overwhelmed.
835
00:45:08,066 --> 00:45:09,367
You know, I was brimming,
836
00:45:09,501 --> 00:45:12,904
exploding with emotion
and stress and fear.
837
00:45:13,038 --> 00:45:14,839
I still at this point had
blood
838
00:45:14,973 --> 00:45:16,174
all over my pants
and shoes,
839
00:45:16,308 --> 00:45:17,876
and I didn't know
what was coming next.
840
00:45:18,009 --> 00:45:19,878
I was told
she may not survive.
841
00:45:20,011 --> 00:45:22,682
[woman on TV] She was rushedto Sarajevo's main hospital
842
00:45:22,814 --> 00:45:26,151
where doctors spent four hourspatching-up her shattered jaw.
843
00:45:26,284 --> 00:45:28,987
She needed a tracheotomyso she could breathe.
844
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,056
All of this part is gone.
845
00:45:31,189 --> 00:45:35,260
And this part has swollen
out like a watermelon.
846
00:45:36,127 --> 00:45:37,829
I remember seeingall of her upper molars,
847
00:45:37,963 --> 00:45:39,264
you know how each molar
848
00:45:39,397 --> 00:45:40,666
has four littlepoints on it, sort of?
849
00:45:40,799 --> 00:45:42,367
The shockwave it had--
850
00:45:42,500 --> 00:45:45,270
It justshattered these molars.
851
00:45:45,737 --> 00:45:47,272
They were now splinters.
852
00:45:47,405 --> 00:45:49,975
I got a call from my bosses
that Margaret had been shot.
853
00:45:50,108 --> 00:45:51,409
And at first I thought,
854
00:45:51,544 --> 00:45:52,678
"My God, don't tell
me she's been killed."
855
00:45:52,811 --> 00:45:54,145
"No, she hasn't been killed,
856
00:45:54,279 --> 00:45:57,617
but she's been very,
very badly injured,
857
00:45:57,749 --> 00:45:58,950
and she was sniped."
858
00:45:59,084 --> 00:46:00,285
And I knew exactly
what had happened,
859
00:46:00,418 --> 00:46:03,188
because we had been sniped
for weeks.
860
00:46:06,791 --> 00:46:08,927
[Susan] Everybody wasin a state of shock.
861
00:46:10,529 --> 00:46:12,531
And I remember talkingto a medic and I said,
862
00:46:12,665 --> 00:46:14,966
"How is Margaret?So, she's been airlifted?"
863
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:16,535
He said, "But you know, pfft,
864
00:46:16,669 --> 00:46:18,604
probably best if she died."
865
00:46:18,738 --> 00:46:20,038
I said, "What?"
866
00:46:20,171 --> 00:46:21,373
He said, "Yeah, you know,
with those injuries,
867
00:46:21,507 --> 00:46:22,874
I mean, really,
would you wanna
868
00:46:23,008 --> 00:46:24,342
have those injuries
to your face?"
869
00:46:27,245 --> 00:46:29,247
[Christiane] They gave hera blood transfusion.
870
00:46:30,248 --> 00:46:34,386
She was airlifted out tothe Mayo Clinic in Minnesota.
871
00:46:36,254 --> 00:46:37,623
And I didn't knowwhat I was going to find
872
00:46:37,757 --> 00:46:39,324
when I got to the hospital.
873
00:46:41,092 --> 00:46:42,360
She was unrecognizable.
874
00:46:42,494 --> 00:46:44,496
And at the time,
she couldn't talk,
875
00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:46,364
but she could do some writing.
876
00:46:51,469 --> 00:46:53,938
I went in and
she looked at me.
877
00:46:54,806 --> 00:46:56,575
And I'll never forget,
it was...
878
00:46:57,309 --> 00:46:59,911
this look in her,
you know, big blue eyes.
879
00:47:00,045 --> 00:47:01,514
and she was...
880
00:47:01,647 --> 00:47:04,750
started crying
and kicking her legs,
881
00:47:04,883 --> 00:47:09,087
trying to talk to me, like,
"Look, what's happened to me."
882
00:47:14,694 --> 00:47:17,596
And I was trying to calm
her down and it was really...
883
00:47:19,864 --> 00:47:20,999
...tough.
884
00:47:21,132 --> 00:47:23,335
It was a very tough moment.
885
00:47:24,770 --> 00:47:26,104
[Jeff] I work at Kinkos,
886
00:47:26,739 --> 00:47:28,674
they put me on a registerin the front.
887
00:47:29,775 --> 00:47:32,010
These two guys
were getting their coffees,
888
00:47:32,143 --> 00:47:33,345
you know, getting their money
out and whatever,
889
00:47:33,478 --> 00:47:35,013
this guy said
to the other guy,
890
00:47:35,146 --> 00:47:36,948
he said, "Did you hear
about Margaret Moth?"
891
00:47:37,082 --> 00:47:39,752
And he said, "Yes,
she got shot in Sarajevo."
892
00:47:39,884 --> 00:47:41,620
"It blew her jaw right off."
893
00:47:41,754 --> 00:47:43,154
"She's not gonna make it."
894
00:47:44,623 --> 00:47:47,560
That's how I heardabout it... from strangers.
895
00:47:48,993 --> 00:47:51,963
I was really angry
from that point forward.
896
00:47:52,765 --> 00:47:54,065
I was livid.
897
00:47:55,300 --> 00:47:58,436
My Margaret diedon Sniper Alley.
898
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:01,873
She didn't come back.
899
00:48:02,006 --> 00:48:06,177
[sombre music playing]
900
00:48:12,718 --> 00:48:16,955
[Yaschinka]
901
00:48:48,153 --> 00:48:51,189
[melancholic music playing]
902
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:43,709
Yeah, mum rang and told me
903
00:49:43,843 --> 00:49:46,912
that she'd been shot
in the face by a sniper.
904
00:49:47,045 --> 00:49:48,313
Yeah.
905
00:49:49,414 --> 00:49:50,683
Well, you're sort of like...
906
00:49:50,816 --> 00:49:54,152
until I saw her,
I didn't realize the extent.
907
00:49:54,620 --> 00:49:55,621
Mm.
908
00:49:58,122 --> 00:49:59,625
Yeah, she was very vain.
909
00:49:59,758 --> 00:50:02,193
And my first thought
when she got shot was,
910
00:50:02,327 --> 00:50:05,731
"Oh, my God, for that to
happen to Maggie's face...
911
00:50:06,665 --> 00:50:08,099
was incredible."
912
00:50:09,768 --> 00:50:13,004
[Yaschinka]
913
00:50:26,685 --> 00:50:29,588
[Joe] They started puttingher face together.
914
00:50:30,255 --> 00:50:32,457
And they hadto rebuild her jaw
915
00:50:32,591 --> 00:50:35,326
because the jawhad been blown off.
916
00:50:36,996 --> 00:50:38,597
She had lost all her teeth,
917
00:50:38,731 --> 00:50:41,600
and it was always
as typical Margaret,
918
00:50:41,734 --> 00:50:43,636
that she would say,
919
00:50:43,769 --> 00:50:46,404
"I want to go back to Sarajevo
and look for my teeth."
920
00:51:03,221 --> 00:51:04,623
[loud gunshot]
921
00:51:25,711 --> 00:51:30,749
[dark music]
922
00:51:37,155 --> 00:51:38,289
[Jan] The French guy?
923
00:51:38,757 --> 00:51:41,060
Mum saidthat she didn't like him.
924
00:51:42,027 --> 00:51:44,763
Maggie alwayshad younger boyfriends.
925
00:51:44,897 --> 00:51:47,032
You know, they'd be alllovely-dovey on phone,
926
00:51:47,165 --> 00:51:48,701
and I couldn't believe her.
927
00:51:48,834 --> 00:51:52,337
I never heard Maggie talk like
that to anybody, you know?
928
00:51:52,470 --> 00:51:54,506
So, yeah, it was strange.
929
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,274
She's laying there bandaged
930
00:51:56,407 --> 00:51:58,276
and was supposed to be
all sterile and everything.
931
00:51:58,409 --> 00:52:00,478
And he's climbing
all over the top of her
932
00:52:00,613 --> 00:52:01,814
and kissing
her and cuddling her
933
00:52:01,947 --> 00:52:03,749
and rubbing his
hands all over her,
934
00:52:03,882 --> 00:52:06,652
yeah, but Mum wasn't
impressed at all.
935
00:52:12,725 --> 00:52:14,392
Mum didn't like itbecause she reckoned
936
00:52:14,526 --> 00:52:16,461
he was selling stuffout of Margaret's flat
937
00:52:16,595 --> 00:52:18,631
while she was in hospital.
938
00:52:18,764 --> 00:52:20,231
Stealingit and then selling it.
939
00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:24,202
Finally, she found outthat he was a heroin addict.
940
00:52:33,612 --> 00:52:37,116
Maggie had the money
and he didn't.
941
00:52:37,248 --> 00:52:39,484
So, maybe it was
that sort of relationship.
942
00:52:39,618 --> 00:52:41,319
She... she nurtured him
943
00:52:41,452 --> 00:52:43,956
and he was happy
to go along with it.
944
00:52:44,089 --> 00:52:46,859
[suspenseful music playing]
945
00:52:46,992 --> 00:52:48,727
[Yaschinka]
946
00:54:46,145 --> 00:54:49,114
[Jeff] Well, at this point,we had been apart for so long,
947
00:54:49,681 --> 00:54:51,150
very, very little contact.
948
00:54:51,950 --> 00:54:54,385
I was too ashamedto talk to her,
949
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:55,721
because my life had just
950
00:54:55,854 --> 00:54:58,289
revolved around
drinking and drugs,
951
00:54:58,422 --> 00:55:01,425
and I just couldn't...
deal with it.
952
00:55:05,564 --> 00:55:06,965
Couple of timesshe sent me a ticket,
953
00:55:07,099 --> 00:55:09,234
and I couldn't stay soberlong enough
954
00:55:09,367 --> 00:55:10,669
to get on an airplane.
955
00:55:14,773 --> 00:55:16,975
All I could see
was what I had lost,
956
00:55:17,109 --> 00:55:19,343
you know,
not what she had lost.
957
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,849
I disappointed her a lot.
958
00:55:26,450 --> 00:55:29,521
I rejected her
on almost every level.
959
00:55:31,290 --> 00:55:32,925
[thunderous rumbling]
960
00:55:33,058 --> 00:55:35,928
[techno music playing]
961
00:55:37,162 --> 00:55:39,932
[Yaschinka]
962
00:56:14,900 --> 00:56:15,934
[scoffs]
963
00:56:40,926 --> 00:56:42,661
[Joe] Before she was shot,
964
00:56:42,794 --> 00:56:44,462
people would starebecause she was so beautiful,
965
00:56:44,596 --> 00:56:47,766
and with theselong flowing skirts.
966
00:56:47,900 --> 00:56:50,168
But after she was shot,
967
00:56:50,302 --> 00:56:53,038
her mouth was crooked and
she lost part of her tongue.
968
00:56:54,438 --> 00:56:55,473
She didn't have teeth,
969
00:56:55,607 --> 00:56:57,109
and you don't have teeth,
970
00:56:57,242 --> 00:56:59,945
you can't eat properly,you can't speak properly.
971
00:57:01,146 --> 00:57:04,583
[Yaschinka]
972
00:57:10,889 --> 00:57:12,858
[Joe] People would stare.
973
00:57:14,192 --> 00:57:15,861
[Yaschinka]
974
00:58:08,013 --> 00:58:09,614
[Jeff] The sniperon Sniper Alley
975
00:58:09,748 --> 00:58:11,183
wasn't gonna bring her down.
976
00:58:12,284 --> 00:58:13,652
She was better than that.
977
00:58:15,187 --> 00:58:19,524
[dramatic music playing]
978
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,976
She went into a little capsuleand, you know,
979
00:58:38,110 --> 00:58:41,513
like a cocoon,and came out something other.
980
00:58:58,964 --> 00:59:00,799
I think for Margaret,
981
00:59:00,932 --> 00:59:03,301
anything else butradical acceptance
982
00:59:03,435 --> 00:59:04,736
would have been defeat.
983
00:59:08,907 --> 00:59:12,044
[intense music]
984
00:59:18,483 --> 00:59:20,886
[Stefano] At some point,Margaret realized
985
00:59:21,019 --> 00:59:24,289
she needed to fighttooth and nail to get back.
986
00:59:27,325 --> 00:59:30,362
My God, the inner physical
strength of that woman.
987
00:59:31,263 --> 00:59:34,766
[physiotherapist] And back,
all the way.
988
00:59:36,001 --> 00:59:37,769
Let's go
down to the bed first.
989
00:59:42,340 --> 00:59:44,476
[Stefano] She had the gutsto just say,
990
00:59:44,609 --> 00:59:47,712
[determined tone] "Don'tstrip me of my pride."
991
00:59:47,846 --> 00:59:48,747
[physiotherapist] Can
you reach your hand
992
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,315
to the headboard?
993
00:59:54,119 --> 00:59:56,088
[Doctor Paul] Okay, open
as wide as you can for me.
994
00:59:56,221 --> 00:59:57,956
I know
you can't open it very wide.
995
00:59:59,124 --> 01:00:00,592
I'm just trying
to look and see
996
01:00:00,725 --> 01:00:02,327
if you have any sutures
that I can see.
997
01:00:02,461 --> 01:00:04,329
Can you feel your lower lip
any better now?
998
01:00:04,463 --> 01:00:07,866
[Margaret] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can feel it right over here.
999
01:00:07,999 --> 01:00:09,569
[Doctor Paul] Very good. Good.
1000
01:00:09,701 --> 01:00:11,269
I feel pressure.
1001
01:00:11,403 --> 01:00:14,206
I never saw her spirit flag.
1002
01:00:14,339 --> 01:00:17,142
I never saw her
feel sorry for herself.
1003
01:00:17,943 --> 01:00:20,979
I never saw her say, "No,"to any challenge.
1004
01:00:36,294 --> 01:00:38,296
Well, she was very keen
to return to work
1005
01:00:38,430 --> 01:00:39,865
as soon as possible.
1006
01:00:39,998 --> 01:00:42,234
[demonstrators chanting]
1007
01:00:44,202 --> 01:00:46,506
[Peter] The international deskhad recommended
1008
01:00:46,638 --> 01:00:50,675
that she take it easyin terms of assignments.
1009
01:00:52,978 --> 01:00:55,147
She did her shareof the various stories
1010
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,115
that we were doing in Paris.
1011
01:00:57,249 --> 01:00:59,519
How romantic, okay, excuse me.
1012
01:00:59,651 --> 01:01:00,919
Her mental state was,
1013
01:01:01,052 --> 01:01:02,888
you know, "I'm going to go
back to work."
1014
01:01:03,021 --> 01:01:04,590
[indistinct voice]
1015
01:01:05,257 --> 01:01:08,059
[Joe] But it was not easyto go back to work.
1016
01:01:08,193 --> 01:01:09,895
[male journalist] Ah!
These two ladies here.
1017
01:01:10,028 --> 01:01:11,396
[Joe] She was weak.
1018
01:01:11,531 --> 01:01:14,833
She had been fed through
a tube into her stomach
1019
01:01:14,966 --> 01:01:18,870
because she couldn't eat
and she had lost weight.
1020
01:01:19,871 --> 01:01:21,973
Margaret wanted to do
what she loved to do,
1021
01:01:22,107 --> 01:01:24,142
and that was covering war.
1022
01:01:24,276 --> 01:01:25,611
Three, two, one.
1023
01:01:25,744 --> 01:01:26,978
The union say,
1024
01:01:27,112 --> 01:01:29,114
"Thursday's action
is just a warning."
1025
01:01:31,216 --> 01:01:32,784
[Peter] She did complainabout the fact
1026
01:01:32,918 --> 01:01:35,020
that myselfand the assignments editor
1027
01:01:35,153 --> 01:01:37,289
were deliberately plottingto keep her away
1028
01:01:37,422 --> 01:01:38,790
from what she considered
1029
01:01:38,924 --> 01:01:40,526
to be the essential storiesof the day
1030
01:01:40,660 --> 01:01:42,227
and she felt hard done by.
1031
01:01:44,095 --> 01:01:45,565
One of the thingsthat stood out
1032
01:01:45,697 --> 01:01:46,965
for the rest of us inthe Bureau, of course,
1033
01:01:47,098 --> 01:01:48,166
was the fact that Margaret
1034
01:01:48,300 --> 01:01:50,101
found it very difficult
to talk.
1035
01:02:00,145 --> 01:02:01,846
Down here was still
her physical strength
1036
01:02:01,980 --> 01:02:03,148
because she would
still lift the cameras.
1037
01:02:03,281 --> 01:02:04,883
There was no
slowing down of that.
1038
01:02:05,016 --> 01:02:07,352
But it was very hard for herto work with you
1039
01:02:07,485 --> 01:02:10,422
when she didn't have a tongue
to communicate properly.
1040
01:02:10,556 --> 01:02:12,157
[slurred speech]
1041
01:02:12,290 --> 01:02:13,792
She would talk and it was,just drool was coming out.
1042
01:02:13,925 --> 01:02:15,260
She always hadto dab her mouth.
1043
01:02:15,393 --> 01:02:17,329
She couldn't controlthe drool, right?
1044
01:02:17,462 --> 01:02:18,797
She'd say, "Oh, I--"
1045
01:02:18,930 --> 01:02:20,298
And you'd say,
"I'm sorry, what?"
1046
01:02:20,432 --> 01:02:22,801
She'd either say
it again more slowly,
1047
01:02:22,934 --> 01:02:24,169
so you can get it, or she
would nod,
1048
01:02:24,302 --> 01:02:25,638
do this and pull
out her...
1049
01:02:25,770 --> 01:02:27,105
her reporter's pad
and write it down
1050
01:02:27,239 --> 01:02:28,907
like that and say,
"Do you want this?"
1051
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:29,975
"Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure."
1052
01:02:30,108 --> 01:02:31,810
"Let's do that then."
1053
01:02:31,943 --> 01:02:35,347
Nobody else had to work forher because of her infirmity.
1054
01:02:36,147 --> 01:02:37,482
But she had to work harder.
1055
01:02:38,551 --> 01:02:40,252
Yeah, yeah, a bit. Um...
1056
01:02:42,354 --> 01:02:43,888
[chuckles]
1057
01:02:48,694 --> 01:02:51,363
[Tom] She wanted to beon the front line.
1058
01:02:52,230 --> 01:02:56,602
She said,
"I am going back to war."
1059
01:02:57,369 --> 01:03:00,405
"And nobody is going to standin my way."
1060
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,209
[Peter] The indicationfrom the assignments editor
1061
01:03:04,342 --> 01:03:06,478
on the international deskwas to try and avoid
1062
01:03:06,612 --> 01:03:09,247
sending Margaret tosituations where she
1063
01:03:09,381 --> 01:03:11,517
where she would be
more at risk
1064
01:03:11,651 --> 01:03:14,352
because of the lack
of medical facilities
1065
01:03:14,486 --> 01:03:15,621
or the danger.
1066
01:03:15,755 --> 01:03:17,389
I mean, if she was
to get hurt again, I mean,
1067
01:03:17,523 --> 01:03:21,126
if she were hit in the face
by a rock or something...
1068
01:03:22,093 --> 01:03:24,062
There were people who
came to me,
1069
01:03:24,195 --> 01:03:25,698
and said "Tom,
you can't let her do it.
1070
01:03:25,830 --> 01:03:27,165
You cannot let her do it.
1071
01:03:27,299 --> 01:03:29,200
You'll have blood
on your hands."
1072
01:03:29,334 --> 01:03:32,070
But Margaret didn't see it
quite the same way.
1073
01:03:32,638 --> 01:03:34,573
Look, I have a black
bullet-proof vest.
1074
01:03:34,707 --> 01:03:35,775
[man] Cool.
1075
01:03:35,907 --> 01:03:37,909
[Peter] She was so all in.
1076
01:03:38,043 --> 01:03:39,411
[Margaret giggles]
1077
01:03:39,545 --> 01:03:41,046
[Peter] She hadonly one way forward,
1078
01:03:41,179 --> 01:03:42,648
and that was to walkstraight back
1079
01:03:42,782 --> 01:03:44,149
into the lion's den.
1080
01:03:44,282 --> 01:03:48,920
[upbeat music playing]
1081
01:03:53,958 --> 01:03:56,995
CNN, Cyangugu, Rwanda.
1082
01:03:57,962 --> 01:04:00,633
[continual gunshots]
1083
01:04:00,766 --> 01:04:02,967
[indistinct voices]
1084
01:04:03,101 --> 01:04:04,570
Margaret liked being near...
near the action.
1085
01:04:04,704 --> 01:04:06,739
So she didn't want
to be in headquarters,
1086
01:04:06,871 --> 01:04:07,906
or she didn't want
to be in place
1087
01:04:08,039 --> 01:04:10,075
there was a little action.
1088
01:04:19,084 --> 01:04:20,318
[explosion]
1089
01:04:27,425 --> 01:04:29,427
[Jeff] Even with her injuries,
1090
01:04:29,562 --> 01:04:32,497
she was drivenby some other fuel source
1091
01:04:32,631 --> 01:04:34,432
than most people are.
1092
01:04:37,035 --> 01:04:39,270
[military siren beeps]
1093
01:04:39,739 --> 01:04:43,041
[Stefano] Margaret andthe crew are in the West Bank.
1094
01:04:43,174 --> 01:04:46,077
And an IDF,Israeli Defence Force
1095
01:04:46,211 --> 01:04:47,613
armoured Jeep pulls up.
1096
01:04:47,747 --> 01:04:49,648
[metal banging]
1097
01:04:51,383 --> 01:04:54,419
The Israeli soldiersfire some kind of tear gas
1098
01:04:54,553 --> 01:04:55,987
or other grenade or something.
1099
01:04:56,121 --> 01:04:57,422
So they're aiming at
1100
01:04:57,556 --> 01:04:59,057
right at thesejournalists, right?
1101
01:04:59,825 --> 01:05:01,192
[gunshot]
1102
01:05:01,326 --> 01:05:03,928
Then they ram the front
of CNN's Land Rover.
1103
01:05:04,062 --> 01:05:05,698
-[imitates banging]
-[metal clashing]
1104
01:05:05,831 --> 01:05:08,166
[horns blaring]
1105
01:05:08,834 --> 01:05:11,369
-[loud explosion]
-[woman screams]
1106
01:05:12,470 --> 01:05:14,205
[Margaret]
1107
01:05:14,339 --> 01:05:16,675
[indistinct audio
over megaphone]
1108
01:05:17,576 --> 01:05:19,978
As you can hear Margaret
say in that piece, she says,
1109
01:05:20,111 --> 01:05:21,446
"Who got me in the foot?"
1110
01:05:22,715 --> 01:05:24,983
Then you see a guy
steps out and goes,
1111
01:05:25,116 --> 01:05:28,186
pow, he fires point blank
at the glass.
1112
01:05:28,319 --> 01:05:31,322
-[glass shattering]
-[honking continues]
1113
01:05:31,456 --> 01:05:33,893
She didn't do less warafter she got shot.
1114
01:05:34,993 --> 01:05:36,261
She did more.
1115
01:05:38,296 --> 01:05:40,398
She doubled down on danger.
1116
01:06:00,586 --> 01:06:02,253
[Stefano] She stuckwith danger.
1117
01:06:02,387 --> 01:06:04,222
She stuck with peoplewho understood danger
1118
01:06:04,355 --> 01:06:06,559
and understoodthe price she had paid.
1119
01:06:08,092 --> 01:06:09,795
Dignity and defiance.
1120
01:06:10,395 --> 01:06:12,363
The ceaseless defianceof everything.
1121
01:06:12,497 --> 01:06:15,200
Even defianceagainst her own self-pity.
1122
01:06:21,406 --> 01:06:22,675
I think that was the way
1123
01:06:22,808 --> 01:06:25,376
for Margaretto preserve her dignity.
1124
01:06:39,925 --> 01:06:44,295
There's this one big, thorny,
difficult story in the world.
1125
01:06:44,429 --> 01:06:46,164
It's kind of special.
1126
01:06:46,297 --> 01:06:49,467
And that's the story
of the Arab-Israeli conflict.
1127
01:06:50,134 --> 01:06:52,070
It's a minefield of a story.
1128
01:06:53,204 --> 01:06:54,740
[man on TV] SixteenKatyusha rockets
1129
01:06:54,874 --> 01:06:56,609
slammed into villagesin northern Israel
1130
01:06:56,742 --> 01:06:59,310
as many residentswere eating breakfast.
1131
01:07:00,713 --> 01:07:02,815
[speaking Hebrew]
1132
01:07:02,948 --> 01:07:05,183
Hezbollah in south Lebanon
1133
01:07:06,484 --> 01:07:08,821
had been shellingand sending Katyusha rockets
1134
01:07:08,954 --> 01:07:12,290
over into settlementsin northern Israel.
1135
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,730
And the Israelishad wanted to retaliate,
1136
01:07:19,330 --> 01:07:21,399
and they issued a warning
1137
01:07:21,534 --> 01:07:23,836
that they were gonna beattacking Shiite villages
1138
01:07:23,969 --> 01:07:26,437
where they believed Hezbollahto have its strongholds,
1139
01:07:26,572 --> 01:07:28,507
and warned
that anything that moved,
1140
01:07:28,641 --> 01:07:31,109
would be considered
a legitimate target.
1141
01:07:35,581 --> 01:07:37,917
About 300 to 400 thousand
1142
01:07:38,049 --> 01:07:42,487
civilians fled from the southof Lebanon, towards Beirut.
1143
01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:48,027
[man on TV] Twothunder-clapping explosions
1144
01:07:48,192 --> 01:07:52,263
had sounded acrossthe city and then screams.
1145
01:07:52,397 --> 01:07:53,632
[people scream chaotically]
1146
01:07:57,603 --> 01:08:00,706
[Peter] CNN mobilizedaround 12 journalists.
1147
01:08:01,372 --> 01:08:02,908
There was alsothe addition of Margaret
1148
01:08:03,042 --> 01:08:06,277
and another sound techthat came in from London.
1149
01:08:07,078 --> 01:08:10,281
And we moved southalong the coastal road
1150
01:08:10,415 --> 01:08:12,483
from Beirut to Tyre.
1151
01:08:12,618 --> 01:08:14,853
[man on TV] Israel is tryingto stop Hezbollah
1152
01:08:14,987 --> 01:08:17,288
and journaliststraveling this road.
1153
01:08:17,422 --> 01:08:19,858
Anyone movinghas to make a high-speed dash.
1154
01:08:23,261 --> 01:08:28,299
[ominous music playing]
1155
01:08:30,401 --> 01:08:32,705
[Yaschinka]
1156
01:08:51,857 --> 01:08:53,726
[bombs exploding]
1157
01:08:54,627 --> 01:08:55,594
[Peter]
We were the only network
1158
01:08:55,728 --> 01:08:57,696
that set up a base in Tyre.
1159
01:08:58,329 --> 01:08:59,632
[explosion]
1160
01:09:00,633 --> 01:09:04,268
On the top floor,of a 12 story apartment block,
1161
01:09:04,402 --> 01:09:06,739
and we've hada grandstand view...
1162
01:09:06,872 --> 01:09:09,908
-[jets zooming]
-[bomb exploding]
1163
01:09:10,042 --> 01:09:12,511
of the Israeli air attacks.
1164
01:09:13,344 --> 01:09:15,146
[loud explosion]
1165
01:09:16,381 --> 01:09:18,383
Margaret's on the roofand she captured
1166
01:09:18,517 --> 01:09:20,653
the explosion very close by.
1167
01:09:22,121 --> 01:09:23,354
You can see the jets,
1168
01:09:23,488 --> 01:09:25,691
the F-14s and the F-16scome over
1169
01:09:25,824 --> 01:09:28,727
and quite clearly
see them drop bombs.
1170
01:09:39,237 --> 01:09:40,839
[Stefano] Look,there is no way around it.
1171
01:09:40,973 --> 01:09:42,708
This was an extraordinarilydangerous place.
1172
01:09:43,976 --> 01:09:46,310
But this is whereMargaret wanted to be.
1173
01:09:49,114 --> 01:09:51,850
[people talking indistinctly]
1174
01:09:53,686 --> 01:09:54,953
[Peter] One of the storiesthat we did
1175
01:09:55,087 --> 01:09:56,454
in the first few days
1176
01:09:56,588 --> 01:09:58,524
was to visitthe United Nations troops.
1177
01:09:58,657 --> 01:10:00,693
It was mainly Fijians at thetime.
1178
01:10:01,927 --> 01:10:04,563
And we visitedone of their camps near Kana.
1179
01:10:05,229 --> 01:10:07,032
More or less
on the front lines.
1180
01:10:07,933 --> 01:10:09,233
We went to the campa couple of times
1181
01:10:09,367 --> 01:10:10,501
to do someinterviews.
1182
01:10:10,636 --> 01:10:14,606
[indistinct chatter]
1183
01:10:15,908 --> 01:10:18,911
Some of the locals were scaredof Israeli retaliation,
1184
01:10:19,044 --> 01:10:20,112
so they asked the UN,
1185
01:10:20,244 --> 01:10:21,647
"You know, can we stay
here?"
1186
01:10:21,780 --> 01:10:23,281
"The Israelis aren't going
to attack you, are they?"
1187
01:10:27,251 --> 01:10:29,121
Margaret was off filming
1188
01:10:29,253 --> 01:10:31,824
when she heardthat there had been an attack.
1189
01:10:32,290 --> 01:10:34,059
[man over radio] Fijibattalion headquarters
1190
01:10:34,193 --> 01:10:35,894
is still under shelling.
1191
01:10:36,028 --> 01:10:38,664
Fiji battalion headquartersis still under shelling. Over.
1192
01:10:39,531 --> 01:10:41,667
[Peter] And so, she wentof her own initiative,
1193
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,837
straight to Kana,back to the camp.
1194
01:10:45,403 --> 01:10:50,909
[woman screaming, crying]
1195
01:10:51,043 --> 01:10:54,613
[tense music playing]
1196
01:10:57,248 --> 01:11:00,418
[chaotic screaming]
1197
01:11:04,823 --> 01:11:07,325
[Peter] Margaret was the firsttelevision journalist
1198
01:11:07,458 --> 01:11:08,961
with a properprofessional camera
1199
01:11:09,094 --> 01:11:11,530
to arrive on the scene.
1200
01:11:12,731 --> 01:11:15,366
She filmed the wholeimmediate aftermath.
1201
01:11:21,372 --> 01:11:23,108
And then we waited forMargaret to come back
1202
01:11:23,242 --> 01:11:24,408
with all the video.
1203
01:11:25,577 --> 01:11:29,748
And she had shot a good 30,
1204
01:11:30,649 --> 01:11:33,284
maybe more, 40 minutes.
1205
01:11:34,553 --> 01:11:36,989
We fed everything to Atlanta,
1206
01:11:37,122 --> 01:11:38,489
whole 40 minutes.
1207
01:11:38,624 --> 01:11:39,925
I'm Lou Waters. Hello.
1208
01:11:40,058 --> 01:11:41,794
Here's what's happening.
It's been quite a day.
1209
01:11:41,927 --> 01:11:44,428
It was a scene that caused
United Nations' peacekeepers
1210
01:11:44,563 --> 01:11:46,165
and rescue officials to weep.
1211
01:11:46,297 --> 01:11:48,767
[man on TV] It's reportedthat two Israeli shells
1212
01:11:48,901 --> 01:11:51,236
out of a salvoof as many as five,
1213
01:11:51,369 --> 01:11:52,671
impacted inside the base,
1214
01:11:52,805 --> 01:11:54,773
some six milessouth-east of Tyre,
1215
01:11:54,907 --> 01:11:57,743
cutting down at least200 Lebanese civilians.
1216
01:11:57,876 --> 01:11:59,578
In the wordsof the United Nations
1217
01:11:59,711 --> 01:12:01,613
on the ground,"It was a massacre."
1218
01:12:01,747 --> 01:12:04,049
[Peter] The impactof Margaret's footages
1219
01:12:04,183 --> 01:12:05,818
cannot be understated.
1220
01:12:05,951 --> 01:12:08,620
There could be no mistaking,but these were civilians.
1221
01:12:08,754 --> 01:12:10,789
[man on TV]
Amid the human debris
1222
01:12:10,923 --> 01:12:13,091
were the bodies of women,children,
1223
01:12:13,225 --> 01:12:14,626
and at least one baby.
1224
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,663
[melancholic music playing]
1225
01:12:17,796 --> 01:12:20,299
[Peter] The shockof that kind of image
1226
01:12:20,431 --> 01:12:22,034
just overrides any kind
1227
01:12:22,167 --> 01:12:24,468
of possible excuseor justification,
1228
01:12:24,603 --> 01:12:27,773
by those who ultimatelywere responsible.
1229
01:12:27,906 --> 01:12:31,375
[indistinct wailing, crying]
1230
01:12:38,349 --> 01:12:43,589
Margaret had a very intensemorality about her.
1231
01:12:44,990 --> 01:12:47,759
Because what she shotwent out to the world
1232
01:12:47,893 --> 01:12:50,428
and affected hundreds,thousands of people.
1233
01:12:54,132 --> 01:12:55,300
[Tom] She had the spirit.
1234
01:12:55,433 --> 01:12:56,668
She had the determination.
1235
01:12:56,802 --> 01:13:00,138
She wanted to show
the world at times,
1236
01:13:00,272 --> 01:13:02,406
the brutality of war,
1237
01:13:03,642 --> 01:13:06,979
particularly the impacton the innocents.
1238
01:13:07,846 --> 01:13:10,015
The impact on the children.
1239
01:13:15,453 --> 01:13:18,290
[Susan] She wasvery empathetic with people.
1240
01:13:18,422 --> 01:13:19,625
She liked filming people.
1241
01:13:19,758 --> 01:13:21,727
That's the impression I have.
1242
01:13:23,494 --> 01:13:26,164
"You can't cover war,remotely. It's about people."
1243
01:13:26,298 --> 01:13:28,066
You know,that's what she would say.
1244
01:13:31,003 --> 01:13:32,638
[Stefano] A lot ofthe narratives about Margaret
1245
01:13:32,771 --> 01:13:34,539
are that, "You're so tough,tough, tough."
1246
01:13:35,406 --> 01:13:36,508
Tough was what she did.
1247
01:13:36,642 --> 01:13:37,643
Tough was not how she acted.
1248
01:13:37,776 --> 01:13:39,278
[On screen] "Hi, Margaret!"
1249
01:13:39,410 --> 01:13:40,646
[On screen] "Hi, Margaret!"
1250
01:13:40,779 --> 01:13:42,547
[laughs] "Hello, Margaret."
1251
01:13:42,681 --> 01:13:44,583
Hi, Margaret!
1252
01:13:46,285 --> 01:13:48,820
[Stefano] She would tell youin so many different ways
1253
01:13:48,954 --> 01:13:50,488
that she didn't careabout people.
1254
01:13:50,622 --> 01:13:51,857
"People are screwed.
1255
01:13:51,990 --> 01:13:53,625
People are bad.
Humanities is a mess."
1256
01:13:53,759 --> 01:13:55,560
But when it came down to it,
1257
01:13:55,694 --> 01:13:57,229
she was relating to
those kids.
1258
01:13:57,996 --> 01:13:59,831
You could seeshe appreciated humanity.
1259
01:14:02,968 --> 01:14:05,370
[Christiane] Every interviewand every picture
1260
01:14:05,503 --> 01:14:06,905
and every image
1261
01:14:07,039 --> 01:14:12,544
and every story of civilian
under fire was evidence.
1262
01:14:14,112 --> 01:14:15,981
[Stefano] It certainly seemson the outside
1263
01:14:16,114 --> 01:14:18,350
that Margaret may have made,after her shooting,
1264
01:14:18,482 --> 01:14:20,052
a deal with death.
1265
01:14:20,819 --> 01:14:23,555
Could seem that waygiven how enthusiastically
1266
01:14:23,689 --> 01:14:26,725
she kept onwith combat camera work.
1267
01:14:29,695 --> 01:14:32,431
"Okay, my love. Let's go.
1268
01:14:32,564 --> 01:14:33,699
Done it to me once."
1269
01:14:33,832 --> 01:14:35,133
That's the words she gave me.
1270
01:14:35,267 --> 01:14:36,568
"Let's keep on going."
1271
01:14:41,106 --> 01:14:43,075
[President Bill Clinton]
I call upon all parties
1272
01:14:43,208 --> 01:14:46,745
to agreeto an immediate cease-fire.
1273
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:49,848
[Peter] So they declareda cease-fire for,
1274
01:14:49,982 --> 01:14:52,551
I think it was 4 am,the morning of 27th of April.
1275
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:56,888
So, on the eveningof the 26th,
1276
01:14:57,022 --> 01:14:58,991
we were saying, "Okay,so, what do we do?"
1277
01:14:59,124 --> 01:15:01,393
"Go back to Beirut tomorrow?"
1278
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,494
"Should we hang around?"
1279
01:15:06,198 --> 01:15:08,767
While we were mullingall those possibilities,
1280
01:15:08,900 --> 01:15:11,937
shortly before midnight,on the 26th,
1281
01:15:12,070 --> 01:15:14,740
four hours beforethe cease-fire was due,
1282
01:15:16,141 --> 01:15:19,878
we heard twodistinctive whooshes...
1283
01:15:24,149 --> 01:15:25,417
very close by.
1284
01:15:26,051 --> 01:15:27,619
A rocket had been launched
1285
01:15:27,753 --> 01:15:30,188
literally from the cornerof our building,
1286
01:15:30,322 --> 01:15:31,523
like Hezbollah.
1287
01:15:32,124 --> 01:15:34,726
And we said, "Okay...
[chuckles]
1288
01:15:34,860 --> 01:15:36,028
we've got maybe three
minutes
1289
01:15:36,161 --> 01:15:37,429
before the Israelis
retaliate."
1290
01:15:37,996 --> 01:15:39,264
We're on the phone to Atlanta.
1291
01:15:39,398 --> 01:15:42,334
It was on with the Bureau
and Israel saying,
1292
01:15:42,467 --> 01:15:44,269
"Oh, make sure the...."
1293
01:15:45,337 --> 01:15:47,406
Couple of the teamrushed down the stairs
1294
01:15:47,539 --> 01:15:49,574
and the minutes tick by...
1295
01:15:50,175 --> 01:15:51,810
"By the way,
where's Margaret?"
1296
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:56,848
She was up on the roof,
1297
01:15:56,982 --> 01:16:00,318
with a camera, waiting to seewhat would happen next.
1298
01:16:04,222 --> 01:16:06,758
Waiting to filmthe building being blown up
1299
01:16:06,892 --> 01:16:08,293
with her on top of it.
1300
01:16:08,427 --> 01:16:12,264
[tense music intensifies]
1301
01:16:20,138 --> 01:16:23,875
[high intensity
electronic static]
1302
01:16:25,944 --> 01:16:27,779
In the end,they didn't retaliate.
1303
01:16:28,548 --> 01:16:30,615
There were
no strikes that day.
1304
01:16:31,950 --> 01:16:34,052
But in case,there was a retaliation,
1305
01:16:34,186 --> 01:16:37,189
she wanted to make surethat she didn't miss the shot.
1306
01:16:39,391 --> 01:16:40,759
[Joe] Margaret felt
1307
01:16:40,892 --> 01:16:43,495
if somebody was mistreatingsomeone...
1308
01:16:44,296 --> 01:16:45,931
she would
stand up against them.
1309
01:16:46,064 --> 01:16:48,100
She wasn't afraid of anyone.
1310
01:16:49,167 --> 01:16:51,736
Maybe she wasn'table to do it as a kid,
1311
01:16:51,870 --> 01:16:54,239
but definitely, as an adult,
1312
01:16:54,706 --> 01:16:56,341
she would not stay quiet.
1313
01:16:58,243 --> 01:17:02,114
[Christiane] Her picturestold the truth.
1314
01:17:03,348 --> 01:17:06,084
Our stories
and Margaret's pictures
1315
01:17:06,218 --> 01:17:09,788
gradually forcedour democracies
1316
01:17:09,921 --> 01:17:11,656
not to turn away.
1317
01:17:12,558 --> 01:17:13,792
In the end,
1318
01:17:13,925 --> 01:17:16,361
after a terrible
massacre at Srebrenica,
1319
01:17:16,495 --> 01:17:18,763
the US-led coalition came in,
1320
01:17:19,498 --> 01:17:21,833
in about two weeks
with very few casualties,
1321
01:17:21,967 --> 01:17:23,335
if any, on the Serb side.
1322
01:17:23,468 --> 01:17:25,170
They bombed the Serbian
military installations
1323
01:17:25,303 --> 01:17:28,306
around the hills
that were surrounding
1324
01:17:28,440 --> 01:17:31,343
the valley in which Sarajevo
was located.
1325
01:17:31,476 --> 01:17:32,444
And the war stopped.
1326
01:17:32,578 --> 01:17:34,279
It was as simple as that.
1327
01:17:34,412 --> 01:17:35,447
The war stopped.
1328
01:17:35,581 --> 01:17:37,048
And I attribute that...
1329
01:17:37,182 --> 01:17:40,185
in large part, to
the journalism in Bosnia
1330
01:17:40,318 --> 01:17:41,253
and to the pictures
1331
01:17:41,386 --> 01:17:43,255
that camera women
like Margaret Moth
1332
01:17:43,388 --> 01:17:46,057
and all her colleagues
sent out to the world.
1333
01:17:46,191 --> 01:17:48,927
Well, I think
if you don't film,
1334
01:17:49,060 --> 01:17:50,862
then things just carry on.
1335
01:17:50,996 --> 01:17:53,398
I think if you do film,
things can carry on.
1336
01:17:53,533 --> 01:17:54,966
They can change.
1337
01:17:56,201 --> 01:17:58,103
[Christiane] They triedto silence her,
1338
01:17:58,236 --> 01:17:59,771
but they were not ableto make her
1339
01:17:59,905 --> 01:18:01,139
put down her camera.
1340
01:18:03,543 --> 01:18:05,744
Margaret didn't want
to suppress any story.
1341
01:18:06,478 --> 01:18:08,680
If there was a story,she wanted to tell it.
1342
01:18:08,813 --> 01:18:09,981
You know, when they say
1343
01:18:10,115 --> 01:18:11,950
a picture is worth
a thousand words,
1344
01:18:12,083 --> 01:18:15,887
Margaret's pictures were
worth 100,000 words. So...
1345
01:18:16,021 --> 01:18:17,322
[camera shutter clicks]
1346
01:18:17,455 --> 01:18:18,890
[Stefano] I thinkwhat drove Margaret
1347
01:18:19,024 --> 01:18:23,028
was a real needto be who she was.
1348
01:18:23,962 --> 01:18:26,532
and not have anybodytell her who to be.
1349
01:18:26,965 --> 01:18:28,400
[camera shutter clicks]
1350
01:18:28,534 --> 01:18:31,169
Really, powerfully,a need to be just me.
1351
01:18:31,970 --> 01:18:33,305
[camera shutter clicks]
1352
01:18:33,438 --> 01:18:35,740
Relentlessly,tenaciously, defiant.
1353
01:18:48,588 --> 01:18:50,523
[laughs]
1354
01:18:50,656 --> 01:18:53,425
2009
1355
01:18:53,559 --> 01:18:57,295
The day that I contacted her
after all that time
1356
01:18:57,429 --> 01:18:59,297
was I think four days
1357
01:18:59,431 --> 01:19:01,433
after she had been diagnosed
with cancer,
1358
01:19:01,567 --> 01:19:03,134
with stage IV cancer.
1359
01:19:04,769 --> 01:19:07,906
[sentimental music playing]
1360
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:10,408
You know, I felt funny,
1361
01:19:10,543 --> 01:19:13,311
felt good enoughabout myself, to call her.
1362
01:19:13,945 --> 01:19:15,280
And...
1363
01:19:16,649 --> 01:19:18,116
to find out she was dying.
1364
01:19:26,057 --> 01:19:28,493
So we just started
hanging out again, you know.
1365
01:19:29,662 --> 01:19:31,363
Went to Mexico with Joe,
1366
01:19:31,496 --> 01:19:34,032
went to Mexico City stayedthere for a little while.
1367
01:19:37,068 --> 01:19:38,937
[both laughing]
1368
01:19:39,838 --> 01:19:41,172
[Joe] She was not afraid.
1369
01:19:42,374 --> 01:19:43,408
Even at the end,
1370
01:19:44,109 --> 01:19:47,680
we drove by, I guess,
a cremation place.
1371
01:19:47,812 --> 01:19:49,114
And she said,
1372
01:19:49,247 --> 01:19:50,015
"Oh, that's where I'm going to
go up in smoke."
1373
01:19:50,148 --> 01:19:51,116
And I was, "What?"
1374
01:19:51,249 --> 01:19:52,585
"I'm going to go up in smoke."
1375
01:19:52,718 --> 01:19:54,019
"See, the chimney,
1376
01:19:54,152 --> 01:19:55,020
that's where I'm going to go
up in smoke."
1377
01:19:57,389 --> 01:19:59,257
[Jeff] She was like a Buddha.
1378
01:20:00,325 --> 01:20:02,260
You felt betterin her presence.
1379
01:20:02,827 --> 01:20:04,129
[sighs]
1380
01:20:07,832 --> 01:20:09,167
You could sit with her,
1381
01:20:09,301 --> 01:20:11,102
and you felt likewhen you got up,
1382
01:20:11,236 --> 01:20:13,004
[quavering] you tooksomething away.
1383
01:20:22,213 --> 01:20:23,749
[Joe] We were friendsfor a long time.
1384
01:20:23,882 --> 01:20:27,085
We were friends for
25 years and...
1385
01:20:28,119 --> 01:20:30,221
and I would say soulmates.
1386
01:20:37,329 --> 01:20:39,632
Oh, I just missedcalling her, you know,
1387
01:20:40,332 --> 01:20:42,367
calling her every day.
1388
01:20:43,301 --> 01:20:45,970
And how she would do anything,
1389
01:20:46,104 --> 01:20:47,540
you know, how she would...
1390
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,511
do things and I always
think about Margaret daily.
1391
01:20:59,484 --> 01:21:02,187
[Jeff] I wish I'd playedcertain hands differently.
1392
01:21:03,054 --> 01:21:04,824
You know, I wish I was moreable
1393
01:21:04,956 --> 01:21:06,458
to be more honestwith her
1394
01:21:06,592 --> 01:21:09,227
instead of just turning
my back on her.
1395
01:21:10,428 --> 01:21:13,865
You know, I feel lessthan okay about that.
1396
01:21:15,900 --> 01:21:16,868
After she was shot,
1397
01:21:17,001 --> 01:21:19,003
she rewrote her story.
1398
01:21:20,338 --> 01:21:22,641
She went through 25 surgeries.
1399
01:21:23,609 --> 01:21:26,177
Most people would havethrown in the towel.
1400
01:21:27,379 --> 01:21:29,981
She regained
that lust for life.
1401
01:21:31,416 --> 01:21:33,118
[Margaret]
1402
01:21:43,161 --> 01:21:45,631
[sombre music playing]
1403
01:21:45,765 --> 01:21:49,100
[Jeff] Participatingin this documentary...
1404
01:21:51,369 --> 01:21:52,638
It brought her back to me.
1405
01:21:57,676 --> 01:21:58,910
Seeing that somebody else
cared about her
1406
01:21:59,043 --> 01:22:01,279
as much as I do.
[sobs softly]
1407
01:22:03,982 --> 01:22:08,453
[melancholic music playing]
1408
01:22:16,762 --> 01:22:19,931
["Side on" playing]
1409
01:22:22,931 --> 01:22:26,931
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