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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:51,149 --> 00:00:55,149 www.titlovi.com 2 00:00:58,149 --> 00:01:00,251 [interviewer] Say your name and what your relationship 3 00:01:00,385 --> 00:01:02,287 ...is to Margaret Moth. 4 00:01:03,354 --> 00:01:04,723 [Jeff] Oh, that's tough. 5 00:01:04,857 --> 00:01:06,692 [movie projector whirring] 6 00:01:06,825 --> 00:01:08,761 My name is Jeff Russi... 7 00:01:08,894 --> 00:01:10,161 [camera shutter clicks] 8 00:01:10,295 --> 00:01:13,064 ...and Margaret was my first girlfriend. 9 00:01:13,197 --> 00:01:14,867 [camera shutter clicks] 10 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,603 I was 17 and she was 30. 11 00:01:18,571 --> 00:01:20,806 And I ran away from home, joined the circus. 12 00:01:20,940 --> 00:01:21,907 [laughs] 13 00:01:22,041 --> 00:01:23,374 [camera shutter clicks] 14 00:01:23,976 --> 00:01:26,444 [interviewer] Who was Margaret in the circus? 15 00:01:26,579 --> 00:01:27,880 [camera shutter clicks] 16 00:01:28,013 --> 00:01:30,181 [Jeff] She was a lion tamer. 17 00:01:30,315 --> 00:01:32,051 [projector shutter clicks] 18 00:01:32,183 --> 00:01:34,452 She was the queen of the night. 19 00:01:35,788 --> 00:01:37,890 [interviewer] Okay, what character are you? 20 00:01:38,023 --> 00:01:39,257 Mm... 21 00:01:40,826 --> 00:01:42,895 Oh, I'm one of the clowns, for sure. 22 00:01:43,028 --> 00:01:45,965 ["Barracuda" playing] 23 00:01:46,097 --> 00:01:50,201 d So this ain't the end I saw you again d 24 00:01:50,335 --> 00:01:52,303 d Today d 25 00:01:52,437 --> 00:01:55,239 d I had to turn My heart away d 26 00:01:57,543 --> 00:02:02,648 d Smile like the sun Kisses for everyone d 27 00:02:02,781 --> 00:02:07,218 d And tales, it never fails d 28 00:02:08,419 --> 00:02:11,890 d You lying so low In the weeds d 29 00:02:12,323 --> 00:02:14,994 d I bet you gonna ambush me d 30 00:02:15,126 --> 00:02:20,599 d You'd have me down down Down down on my knees d 31 00:02:20,733 --> 00:02:25,203 d Now wouldn't you, Barracuda? d 32 00:02:26,005 --> 00:02:27,372 d Oh d 33 00:02:27,506 --> 00:02:32,243 [instrumental bridge playing] 34 00:02:37,116 --> 00:02:38,449 d Back over time d 35 00:02:38,584 --> 00:02:41,987 d We were all Trying for free d 36 00:02:42,655 --> 00:02:45,156 d You met The porpoise and me d 37 00:02:46,290 --> 00:02:47,693 d Uh-huh d 38 00:02:47,826 --> 00:02:51,864 d No right, no wrong Selling a song d 39 00:02:51,997 --> 00:02:55,266 d A name d 40 00:02:55,901 --> 00:02:57,402 d Whisper game d 41 00:02:58,169 --> 00:03:01,272 d And if the real thing Don't do the trick d 42 00:03:01,707 --> 00:03:04,743 d You better make up Something quick d 43 00:03:05,044 --> 00:03:09,014 d You gonna burn Burn, burn, burn d 44 00:03:09,148 --> 00:03:11,215 d Burn to the wick d 45 00:03:11,349 --> 00:03:13,819 d Ooh, Barracuda d 46 00:03:15,219 --> 00:03:17,255 d Oh, yeah d 47 00:03:19,858 --> 00:03:23,461 d "Sell me, sell you," The porpoise said d 48 00:03:23,595 --> 00:03:26,932 d Dive down deep now To save my head d 49 00:03:27,066 --> 00:03:28,366 d You d 50 00:03:28,967 --> 00:03:32,838 d I think that you got The blues, too d 51 00:03:39,511 --> 00:03:44,650 -[military siren beeping] -[ambulance siren wailing] 52 00:03:47,418 --> 00:03:48,453 [Stefano] So, the first assignment 53 00:03:48,587 --> 00:03:49,822 I had with Margaret 54 00:03:49,955 --> 00:03:51,156 was in Baghdad. 55 00:03:52,223 --> 00:03:55,293 I was a few years into being a correspondent, 56 00:03:55,426 --> 00:03:57,696 and part of me wanted out. 57 00:03:57,830 --> 00:03:58,697 I was sick of it. 58 00:03:59,031 --> 00:04:01,332 I was kind of heartbroken with the cruelty, 59 00:04:01,466 --> 00:04:04,136 and I got heartbroken with innocent people... 60 00:04:04,268 --> 00:04:05,938 ...going through... 61 00:04:06,071 --> 00:04:07,806 ...awful, awful stuff. 62 00:04:08,707 --> 00:04:11,910 But Margaret didn't seem to feel the same way. 63 00:04:13,244 --> 00:04:14,546 [man shouting] 64 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:15,647 [Stefano] For better or for worse, 65 00:04:15,781 --> 00:04:17,415 war is an amazing feeling. 66 00:04:17,549 --> 00:04:18,650 Mind blowing. 67 00:04:18,784 --> 00:04:20,418 -[metal crashing] -[shots firing] 68 00:04:20,552 --> 00:04:21,820 [man] Where is everyone? 69 00:04:21,954 --> 00:04:23,021 [Stefano] You've never experienced 70 00:04:23,155 --> 00:04:24,422 anything like this. 71 00:04:24,556 --> 00:04:25,924 It's an emotional, psychological, 72 00:04:26,058 --> 00:04:27,760 sensory explosion. 73 00:04:27,893 --> 00:04:29,027 [loud explosion] 74 00:04:31,462 --> 00:04:32,998 Nothing compares. 75 00:04:33,866 --> 00:04:35,000 [men panting] 76 00:04:35,134 --> 00:04:36,300 [man] Keep going. 77 00:04:36,434 --> 00:04:37,770 [woman] Like this. 78 00:04:38,837 --> 00:04:41,339 [Stefano] Margaret got a little bit excited by it. 79 00:04:44,109 --> 00:04:47,146 Any such experiences or emotions, 80 00:04:47,278 --> 00:04:48,781 Margaret drank up. 81 00:04:48,914 --> 00:04:49,915 [gun shots] 82 00:04:50,048 --> 00:04:51,517 She just drank 'em up. 83 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:57,556 She was fearless. 84 00:05:00,659 --> 00:05:02,161 She was always cool-headed. 85 00:05:02,861 --> 00:05:04,930 She had a sense of not just a pretty pictures, 86 00:05:05,063 --> 00:05:06,430 ...but of sort of the reality here, 87 00:05:06,565 --> 00:05:09,001 ...the messy, human reality of war. 88 00:05:10,936 --> 00:05:12,271 And she'd get that in the shot. 89 00:05:12,403 --> 00:05:14,540 [indistinct voices] 90 00:05:17,075 --> 00:05:19,443 [Stefano] She was calm, collected, 91 00:05:19,578 --> 00:05:20,813 but she was on. 92 00:05:22,781 --> 00:05:24,817 She was recording history. 93 00:05:25,383 --> 00:05:28,887 [electro rock music playing] 94 00:05:43,101 --> 00:05:44,468 Across the Gulf Coast, 95 00:05:44,603 --> 00:05:46,572 you can't sing the part company with the rain. 96 00:05:47,639 --> 00:05:49,942 [electro rock music continues] 97 00:05:59,551 --> 00:06:00,886 [Jeff] I was a straight 'A' student 98 00:06:01,019 --> 00:06:02,788 and sold weed at Westbury High School, 99 00:06:02,921 --> 00:06:05,489 the highest academic school in Houston. 100 00:06:07,192 --> 00:06:08,927 I did work at the Pizza Restaurant. 101 00:06:09,061 --> 00:06:12,396 That was like 25 feet away from her front door. 102 00:06:13,999 --> 00:06:15,934 This guy named John, he came down and asked around. 103 00:06:16,335 --> 00:06:19,403 He said, "Is anybody selling acid or weed or whatever." 104 00:06:19,538 --> 00:06:22,107 And they pointed to me, you know. 105 00:06:22,241 --> 00:06:23,775 So, ran upstairs... 106 00:06:25,244 --> 00:06:27,679 Walk in, it's a tiny little space. 107 00:06:27,813 --> 00:06:30,182 And there was peacock feathers and old paintings 108 00:06:30,315 --> 00:06:32,450 and antique furniture, Danish oak. 109 00:06:33,151 --> 00:06:35,187 And she's sitting at the table, 110 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,889 and she's smoking a pipe. 111 00:06:38,223 --> 00:06:40,525 And that was the first time I met Margaret Moth. 112 00:06:45,297 --> 00:06:46,899 She was so exotic. 113 00:06:49,668 --> 00:06:51,937 I thought she was a gypsy fortune teller. 114 00:06:54,873 --> 00:06:56,842 She said she was from New Zealand. 115 00:06:56,975 --> 00:06:59,144 You know, if you'd asked me where New Zealand was, 116 00:06:59,278 --> 00:07:00,512 and then spun the globe, 117 00:07:00,646 --> 00:07:02,080 there was no way. 118 00:07:02,214 --> 00:07:04,049 Like, I had no idea where New Zealand was. 119 00:07:04,182 --> 00:07:06,417 I didn't even know it was off the coast of Australia. 120 00:07:08,220 --> 00:07:11,156 She was the first camera woman for Television New Zealand. 121 00:07:15,827 --> 00:07:17,629 I mean, she was just too cool for me. 122 00:07:17,763 --> 00:07:18,997 That's for sure. 123 00:07:21,767 --> 00:07:23,402 I was so geeky, 124 00:07:23,535 --> 00:07:24,870 tripping over my shoe strings 125 00:07:25,003 --> 00:07:26,772 and making straight 'A's. 126 00:07:26,905 --> 00:07:29,341 And I had no idea that anybody would have thought 127 00:07:29,473 --> 00:07:31,143 I was attractive or anything. 128 00:07:31,276 --> 00:07:34,079 And then she started spinning this weird tale all that. 129 00:07:34,212 --> 00:07:36,748 Now, I was this really cute guy. 130 00:07:37,783 --> 00:07:39,518 We got together in the summer 131 00:07:39,651 --> 00:07:41,820 between my 11th and 12th grade, 132 00:07:41,954 --> 00:07:43,956 your last year of high school. 133 00:07:45,456 --> 00:07:47,526 I never went to 12th grade. 134 00:07:47,659 --> 00:07:48,927 [camera shutter clicking] 135 00:07:49,061 --> 00:07:50,696 I forgot that it was even happening. 136 00:07:52,965 --> 00:07:55,200 As soon as I started hanging out with Margaret, 137 00:07:55,334 --> 00:07:56,368 things changed. 138 00:07:56,935 --> 00:07:58,303 Partied our asses off. 139 00:07:58,437 --> 00:08:00,872 I mean, it turned my life upside down. 140 00:08:01,940 --> 00:08:04,142 I mean, I was one of the coolest kids in town then. 141 00:08:04,276 --> 00:08:05,811 It was weird. 142 00:08:05,944 --> 00:08:07,746 I just started staying in her house. 143 00:08:08,780 --> 00:08:10,882 I remember her giving me a drawer. 144 00:08:11,516 --> 00:08:12,951 Such a big day, you know. 145 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:16,888 She was an alien to me. 146 00:08:17,622 --> 00:08:21,159 And the alien said, "Hey, want to do some acid?" 147 00:08:21,293 --> 00:08:22,294 [laughs] 148 00:08:22,427 --> 00:08:24,896 [upbeat music playing] 149 00:08:27,666 --> 00:08:29,568 We did acid every weekend. 150 00:08:30,969 --> 00:08:32,938 We were always tripping. 151 00:08:37,209 --> 00:08:39,745 Margaret was an experienced traveller. 152 00:08:39,878 --> 00:08:42,481 She got out there. She went a long way out. 153 00:08:42,614 --> 00:08:43,615 She was like, 154 00:08:43,749 --> 00:08:44,983 [in monotone] "I don't know 155 00:08:45,117 --> 00:08:46,852 how we're going to get back to Earth." 156 00:08:46,985 --> 00:08:49,821 [punk rock music playing] 157 00:08:50,889 --> 00:08:52,724 Skating was huge for us. 158 00:08:53,525 --> 00:08:56,328 So there was a big group of skaters in Houston called 159 00:08:56,461 --> 00:08:57,729 The Urban Animals. 160 00:08:59,364 --> 00:09:02,467 They were into different drugs. [chuckles] 161 00:09:02,601 --> 00:09:04,069 They were the heroin crowd. 162 00:09:04,736 --> 00:09:06,872 And we were speed crowd. 163 00:09:07,005 --> 00:09:08,673 [punk rock music playing] 164 00:09:08,807 --> 00:09:10,976 Friday we would go to the punk club. 165 00:09:11,109 --> 00:09:13,378 The one punk club in town in Houston, Texas, 166 00:09:13,513 --> 00:09:14,746 called The Island. 167 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,648 [plane propeller whirring] 168 00:09:16,782 --> 00:09:18,583 And then on a Saturday morning, 169 00:09:18,717 --> 00:09:20,619 we'd get up and go skydiving. 170 00:09:22,921 --> 00:09:24,423 [Margaret on screen] My father had photographs 171 00:09:24,556 --> 00:09:26,158 of paratroopers during the war. 172 00:09:26,291 --> 00:09:27,893 But I never realized then that civilians could jump. 173 00:09:28,026 --> 00:09:29,394 And it was my big ambition 174 00:09:29,529 --> 00:09:30,862 when I was a kid, to be a paratrooper. 175 00:09:33,165 --> 00:09:36,502 [Jeff] If somebody got boring, they're gone, for sure. 176 00:09:37,269 --> 00:09:38,870 [Margaret] So it doesn't matter 177 00:09:39,004 --> 00:09:40,572 how close it comes to this and jumping. 178 00:09:40,705 --> 00:09:43,075 It just never seems bad when you're actually doing it. 179 00:09:43,208 --> 00:09:45,243 Today, I'm just going to be having a lot of fun. 180 00:09:45,377 --> 00:09:46,645 [chuckles] 181 00:09:47,946 --> 00:09:49,314 [Jeff] To Margaret, you know, that's right. 182 00:09:49,448 --> 00:09:50,482 If they were with the Ten Commandments, 183 00:09:50,615 --> 00:09:51,917 "Don't be boring." 184 00:09:53,452 --> 00:09:54,753 She had a good time 185 00:09:54,886 --> 00:09:57,022 and she took everybody along with her. 186 00:09:57,155 --> 00:09:59,858 You know, nothing was out of bounds. 187 00:10:01,359 --> 00:10:03,361 I mean, we had an open relationship 188 00:10:03,495 --> 00:10:04,596 from the very beginning. 189 00:10:04,729 --> 00:10:06,331 [music stops] 190 00:10:08,300 --> 00:10:11,603 She just had a network of guys that she dealt with. 191 00:10:12,471 --> 00:10:14,039 She played the field. 192 00:10:15,307 --> 00:10:16,808 But I never doubted for a minute 193 00:10:16,942 --> 00:10:18,176 that she wasn't in love with me 194 00:10:18,310 --> 00:10:20,011 or that I wasn't in love with her. 195 00:10:21,012 --> 00:10:22,247 [news jingle plays] 196 00:10:22,380 --> 00:10:24,749 [man over TV] K-H-O-U-T-V, Houston. 197 00:10:26,084 --> 00:10:28,320 [Joe] Back in 1984, 198 00:10:28,453 --> 00:10:32,290 I was interned by K-H-O-U in Houston, Texas. 199 00:10:33,959 --> 00:10:37,395 And, one afternoon, I was sitting at the desk 200 00:10:37,662 --> 00:10:39,965 and I looked across the newsroom, 201 00:10:40,098 --> 00:10:44,336 and this woman with spiky jet black hair walked in, 202 00:10:44,469 --> 00:10:46,972 and it just totally caught my attention. 203 00:10:47,739 --> 00:10:49,074 She became my good friend, 204 00:10:49,207 --> 00:10:51,776 and we started going' out and partying quite a bit. 205 00:10:51,910 --> 00:10:55,981 [rock and roll music playing] 206 00:10:58,016 --> 00:11:01,253 She looked so rock and roll 24-7. 207 00:11:01,853 --> 00:11:03,088 She was always, 208 00:11:03,221 --> 00:11:05,257 you know, Joan Jett's big sister. 209 00:11:06,057 --> 00:11:07,759 [on TV] Pilots for Eastern Airlines 210 00:11:07,893 --> 00:11:09,961 write up a new contract, but they aren't looking... 211 00:11:10,095 --> 00:11:11,496 [Joe] She was working in what they call 212 00:11:11,631 --> 00:11:12,831 the Southwest Bureau. 213 00:11:12,964 --> 00:11:15,100 So it was a lot of politics. 214 00:11:16,268 --> 00:11:17,936 She wasn't interested in politics. 215 00:11:18,069 --> 00:11:19,905 She wasn't interested in shooting politician 216 00:11:20,038 --> 00:11:21,940 holding a news conference. 217 00:11:22,073 --> 00:11:24,409 Margaret preferred to go out on a hurricane 218 00:11:25,043 --> 00:11:27,145 and chase a hurricane. 219 00:11:27,279 --> 00:11:29,381 That was the kind of assignment Margaret wanted. 220 00:11:29,515 --> 00:11:31,183 [man yelling] 221 00:11:31,316 --> 00:11:33,051 That's the kind of assignment that she volunteered for. 222 00:11:35,588 --> 00:11:38,356 She wanted to be where the shit was happening. 223 00:11:38,490 --> 00:11:42,294 And in her mind, that place was behind a news camera. 224 00:11:43,461 --> 00:11:44,896 [camera shutter clicks] 225 00:11:45,030 --> 00:11:46,731 You know, she's got a bazooka on her shoulder. 226 00:11:46,865 --> 00:11:47,832 [camera shutter clicks] 227 00:11:47,966 --> 00:11:49,701 You better watch out. 228 00:11:51,236 --> 00:11:52,971 [on TV] Now, Dan's going to have complete report 229 00:11:53,104 --> 00:11:54,439 on that, a little later in the program... 230 00:11:54,574 --> 00:11:56,274 [Joe] I mean, this is Houston, Texas. 231 00:11:56,408 --> 00:11:58,043 I mean, they were like, you know, 232 00:11:58,176 --> 00:12:01,213 right-wing, Republican conservatives, you know, 233 00:12:01,346 --> 00:12:03,949 a female cameraman in a male-dominated world. 234 00:12:04,584 --> 00:12:06,885 That definitely gave her a charge. 235 00:12:07,018 --> 00:12:08,720 She did what she wanted. 236 00:12:08,853 --> 00:12:10,055 She dressed the way she wanted. 237 00:12:10,188 --> 00:12:12,123 She said whatever she wanted, 238 00:12:12,257 --> 00:12:14,859 and it was something that people were in awe of. 239 00:12:14,993 --> 00:12:16,562 [camera shutter clicks] 240 00:12:16,696 --> 00:12:17,996 [Jeff] I was fascinated. 241 00:12:18,129 --> 00:12:20,298 How could this person be so different? 242 00:12:21,399 --> 00:12:22,767 I'd ask her things about her past 243 00:12:22,901 --> 00:12:24,402 and she said, "I don't remember." 244 00:12:24,537 --> 00:12:25,770 You know, "What about your family? 245 00:12:25,904 --> 00:12:26,838 What about your dad?" 246 00:12:26,972 --> 00:12:28,373 "I don't remember." 247 00:12:29,307 --> 00:12:31,443 And that just added to her mystique to me. 248 00:12:31,577 --> 00:12:34,246 [mysterious music playing] 249 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,983 The only thing she ever told me about herself 250 00:12:38,116 --> 00:12:40,553 was that she had had to go to court 251 00:12:40,686 --> 00:12:42,087 to get her tubes tied... 252 00:12:43,054 --> 00:12:44,523 to get herself sterilized. 253 00:12:46,858 --> 00:12:48,760 She said, "I'm not a breeder. 254 00:12:48,893 --> 00:12:50,362 I want nothing to do with that." 255 00:12:52,998 --> 00:12:55,200 Her only motto was, "No regrets." 256 00:12:57,002 --> 00:12:58,336 She didn't look back. 257 00:13:01,473 --> 00:13:04,042 [man on TV] In 1980, CNN revolutionized 258 00:13:04,175 --> 00:13:06,311 the way the world watches news. 259 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,446 [on TV] 7 This news service will be called 260 00:13:08,581 --> 00:13:09,715 The Cable News Network 261 00:13:09,848 --> 00:13:12,217 and will program 24 hours a day. 262 00:13:12,350 --> 00:13:13,918 [Stefano] CNN was the shit right then. 263 00:13:14,052 --> 00:13:16,488 I mean, it was the shit. 264 00:13:16,622 --> 00:13:18,323 [man on TV] For the moment, the iron fist 265 00:13:18,456 --> 00:13:19,958 of the People's Liberation Army 266 00:13:20,091 --> 00:13:22,060 has come down on Tiananmen Square 267 00:13:22,193 --> 00:13:23,596 in the heart of Beijing. 268 00:13:23,729 --> 00:13:26,331 [Stefano] You know, they had an impact. 269 00:13:29,834 --> 00:13:34,205 [Tom] By showing the world the impact of war, 270 00:13:34,906 --> 00:13:38,810 our world was better informed. 271 00:13:40,746 --> 00:13:42,213 This was a new era. 272 00:13:42,414 --> 00:13:46,184 [Tom] Women were emerging as strong, strong professionals 273 00:13:46,318 --> 00:13:48,086 in the field of photojournalism. 274 00:13:49,287 --> 00:13:51,791 And there was a kick-ass spirit to Margaret. 275 00:13:52,357 --> 00:13:55,460 And Margaret was always looking for an opportunity. 276 00:13:57,195 --> 00:13:58,897 They picked her up. 277 00:13:59,030 --> 00:14:01,132 She was just a perfect candidate. 278 00:14:04,102 --> 00:14:05,771 When she got the job with CNN 279 00:14:05,904 --> 00:14:07,773 and she said she was going to work at the Dallas bureau, 280 00:14:07,906 --> 00:14:09,341 it was like, "Ah, fuck." 281 00:14:09,474 --> 00:14:11,209 [laughs] 282 00:14:13,278 --> 00:14:15,480 So I just assumed I would move to Dallas. 283 00:14:17,148 --> 00:14:18,684 You know, I'd visit, 284 00:14:18,818 --> 00:14:21,353 but she didn't ever want me, to like, move there. 285 00:14:23,888 --> 00:14:25,990 When Margaret and I met, I was writing songs. 286 00:14:26,124 --> 00:14:27,693 I mean, I had this little notebook 287 00:14:27,827 --> 00:14:30,028 of songs that I took everywhere I went. 288 00:14:32,430 --> 00:14:35,400 And I'm certainly writing songs for her. 289 00:14:37,402 --> 00:14:39,037 First love of my life. 290 00:14:41,807 --> 00:14:43,375 I handed her my book one time, 291 00:14:43,509 --> 00:14:45,176 and I said, you know, "What do you think?" 292 00:14:45,310 --> 00:14:46,645 She just, like, flat out said, 293 00:14:46,779 --> 00:14:49,314 "It sounds kind of trite to me." 294 00:14:50,616 --> 00:14:52,384 I mean, that was a shock. 295 00:14:54,419 --> 00:14:57,922 And I didn't write another word as a lyric for years. 296 00:15:03,796 --> 00:15:05,296 [on TV] I'm Lou Waters. Hello. 297 00:15:05,430 --> 00:15:07,365 The world is in the midst of a tense waiting game, 298 00:15:07,499 --> 00:15:09,769 waiting to find out if and when there will be war 299 00:15:09,901 --> 00:15:11,269 in the Persian Gulf. 300 00:15:12,671 --> 00:15:16,542 [techno music playing] 301 00:15:19,344 --> 00:15:21,847 [Schwarzkopf] So far, defensive is progressing 302 00:15:21,980 --> 00:15:23,915 with dramatic success. 303 00:15:25,049 --> 00:15:26,519 The troops are doing a great job. 304 00:15:26,652 --> 00:15:28,754 [man on TV] I can hear the sound of planes... 305 00:15:29,855 --> 00:15:32,323 [Jeff] Her first war was Desert Storm. 306 00:15:32,457 --> 00:15:34,693 [man on TV] More than one billion heavily armed men 307 00:15:34,827 --> 00:15:37,596 sent to confront one another in the Gulf. 308 00:15:37,730 --> 00:15:40,031 [tense music playing] 309 00:15:42,100 --> 00:15:43,067 [man on TV] We have been watching 310 00:15:43,201 --> 00:15:44,870 an incredible display 311 00:15:45,003 --> 00:15:46,705 of anti-aircraft firing. 312 00:15:47,773 --> 00:15:51,544 [Jeff] She got on so well with military people, 313 00:15:52,177 --> 00:15:53,512 because she was so ballsy. 314 00:15:54,345 --> 00:15:57,081 General Schwarzkopf took a liking to her, 315 00:15:57,215 --> 00:16:00,051 and they smoked cigars in the evening. 316 00:16:03,121 --> 00:16:05,323 And she was there in the war zone. 317 00:16:06,057 --> 00:16:07,827 That's where she felt the most comfortable. 318 00:16:07,959 --> 00:16:11,329 I think that's where she knew she was who she was. 319 00:16:14,299 --> 00:16:15,701 At a certain point, 320 00:16:16,502 --> 00:16:19,705 sex, drugs, and rock and roll just wasn't enough. 321 00:16:23,475 --> 00:16:24,944 War was the ultimate drug. 322 00:16:25,644 --> 00:16:27,546 Desert Storm was where she made it. 323 00:16:30,381 --> 00:16:32,116 Her dream had come true. 324 00:16:39,859 --> 00:16:42,060 Yes, one, two, three, four, five, you hear me. 325 00:16:42,193 --> 00:16:45,664 People were quite intimidated by Margaret Moth. 326 00:16:45,798 --> 00:16:46,966 Even I was. 327 00:16:47,098 --> 00:16:49,467 Christiane Amanpour, CNN, Sarajevo. 328 00:16:49,768 --> 00:16:52,170 You know, in Sarajevo, she used to sleep with her boots 329 00:16:52,303 --> 00:16:54,305 and her black combat trousers on. 330 00:16:54,439 --> 00:16:55,774 You know, I'm like, "Margaret..." 331 00:16:55,908 --> 00:16:57,743 and she's, "Oh, no, I've got to be ready." 332 00:16:59,945 --> 00:17:01,647 Margaret had a wish to show 333 00:17:01,847 --> 00:17:05,551 the story as she saw it in the raw. 334 00:17:05,684 --> 00:17:07,686 [man on TV] A community, united in grief... 335 00:17:07,820 --> 00:17:10,388 [Susan] She was a very serious camerawoman. 336 00:17:11,624 --> 00:17:13,458 [Stefano] She liked to get in tight. 337 00:17:13,592 --> 00:17:15,761 When she went in, she went in tight. 338 00:17:18,564 --> 00:17:20,900 [Susan] Margaret was very switched on. 339 00:17:21,032 --> 00:17:23,201 She was like a whole package. 340 00:17:24,035 --> 00:17:25,638 Uncompromising. 341 00:17:25,771 --> 00:17:27,338 That's what I liked. 342 00:17:27,472 --> 00:17:29,274 Didn't faff around. 343 00:17:29,407 --> 00:17:30,643 Didn't suck up to people. 344 00:17:30,776 --> 00:17:33,111 And was very good at what she did. 345 00:17:34,813 --> 00:17:38,116 She had a natural, physical, and mental fortitude 346 00:17:38,249 --> 00:17:40,653 that needed to find expression. 347 00:17:40,786 --> 00:17:43,488 And in danger, going into war zones. 348 00:17:44,489 --> 00:17:47,526 [Joe] The way she could just not sleep for days 349 00:17:47,660 --> 00:17:50,461 and also she could go without food, 350 00:17:50,596 --> 00:17:52,497 it wasn't normal for a person 351 00:17:52,631 --> 00:17:54,399 to have that kind of endurance. 352 00:17:54,533 --> 00:17:56,035 And I remember looking at her, like, 353 00:17:56,167 --> 00:17:57,836 "Don't you ever get tired?" 354 00:17:57,970 --> 00:17:59,004 She's like, "No." 355 00:17:59,137 --> 00:18:00,371 [scoffs] 356 00:18:01,707 --> 00:18:04,810 It made her perfect for covering war. 357 00:18:05,711 --> 00:18:07,980 Margaret never made anything about being a female. 358 00:18:08,112 --> 00:18:09,582 She just did it. 359 00:18:10,448 --> 00:18:12,051 You know, she'd get comments and things, 360 00:18:12,183 --> 00:18:13,117 but I mean, she just... 361 00:18:13,251 --> 00:18:14,385 [scoffs] 362 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:15,854 "Look at me. Here's the camera." 363 00:18:15,988 --> 00:18:17,623 "This is what I do." You know. 364 00:18:17,756 --> 00:18:19,190 [man on TV] Three Iraqi soldiers today 365 00:18:19,324 --> 00:18:20,659 were captured at a roadblock, 366 00:18:20,793 --> 00:18:22,528 manned by the Kuwaiti resistance. 367 00:18:22,661 --> 00:18:25,698 We didn't have things like Instagram and social media 368 00:18:25,831 --> 00:18:27,198 and, you know, iPhones. 369 00:18:27,332 --> 00:18:30,335 What was happening that particular day 370 00:18:30,468 --> 00:18:32,671 caused us to follow that story. 371 00:18:35,074 --> 00:18:37,009 [Sausan] You always wanted somebody like Margaret 372 00:18:37,141 --> 00:18:38,611 with you in the field. 373 00:18:38,744 --> 00:18:41,179 Her camera is an extension for herself. 374 00:18:41,780 --> 00:18:45,350 So she's drawn to the story, through the camera, 375 00:18:45,483 --> 00:18:46,885 and she just follows it. 376 00:18:48,186 --> 00:18:50,789 [Stefano] As a journalist, I had this romantic notion 377 00:18:50,923 --> 00:18:52,858 that we're supposed to make this a better place. 378 00:18:52,992 --> 00:18:54,158 We're supposed to bring up 379 00:18:54,292 --> 00:18:55,828 the good in every person and all that. 380 00:18:55,961 --> 00:18:57,963 She was more cynical. 381 00:18:58,097 --> 00:18:59,330 And I think for her, 382 00:19:00,099 --> 00:19:02,768 the photographs, the image, the video she captured 383 00:19:02,901 --> 00:19:04,603 was shoved in your face. 384 00:19:04,737 --> 00:19:05,904 "Here it is." 385 00:19:06,038 --> 00:19:07,405 And she had no more trouble with it than that. 386 00:19:07,539 --> 00:19:09,374 It was like, "Here it is. Take it." 387 00:19:10,441 --> 00:19:11,910 "This is your shit." 388 00:19:12,044 --> 00:19:16,048 [ominous music playing] 389 00:19:16,849 --> 00:19:18,851 [Jeff] Maybe it's not the best metaphor 390 00:19:18,984 --> 00:19:21,520 that Margaret's camera was a gun. 391 00:19:22,121 --> 00:19:24,089 It's more like a spotlight. 392 00:19:24,222 --> 00:19:29,460 She was shedding light on people behaving badly. 393 00:19:29,595 --> 00:19:30,996 [indistinct talking] 394 00:19:31,130 --> 00:19:33,732 The most valuable thing that she can imagine 395 00:19:33,866 --> 00:19:36,434 was being where history is being changed. 396 00:19:37,736 --> 00:19:39,303 But I could never follow her there. 397 00:19:39,437 --> 00:19:41,272 [indistinct voices] 398 00:19:47,646 --> 00:19:49,148 [woman on TV] The BBC is reporting 399 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,516 that Iraq has fired 400 00:19:50,649 --> 00:19:53,152 five Scud missiles at Saudi Arabia. 401 00:19:53,819 --> 00:19:57,288 The Pentagon is now confirming 12 dead and 25 injured. 402 00:19:57,422 --> 00:20:00,191 [ambulance siren wailing] 403 00:20:03,128 --> 00:20:04,963 [bomb explosions] 404 00:20:06,899 --> 00:20:09,568 [Yaschinka] 405 00:20:25,383 --> 00:20:26,719 [laughs] 406 00:20:27,753 --> 00:20:29,353 [in French] 407 00:20:45,070 --> 00:20:46,370 Well. 408 00:20:55,547 --> 00:20:56,982 [man on TV] We have an air raid alert 409 00:20:57,116 --> 00:21:00,052 people are being taken to shelters. 410 00:21:00,185 --> 00:21:02,688 [Yaschinka] 411 00:21:27,713 --> 00:21:28,914 [blows raspberries] 412 00:21:29,047 --> 00:21:30,281 [laughs] 413 00:21:55,107 --> 00:21:57,643 [President George Bush] Kuwait is liberated. 414 00:21:57,776 --> 00:21:59,745 Iraq's army is defeated. 415 00:22:00,478 --> 00:22:02,815 Our military objectives are met. 416 00:22:05,984 --> 00:22:08,720 [Yaschinka] 417 00:22:36,081 --> 00:22:38,449 [camera shutter clicking] 418 00:22:55,868 --> 00:22:58,070 [laughs] 419 00:23:15,954 --> 00:23:18,657 [laughs] 420 00:23:20,491 --> 00:23:21,793 Yaschinka was just there. 421 00:23:21,927 --> 00:23:24,763 He wasn't a part of the long-term plan. 422 00:23:24,897 --> 00:23:28,000 He wasn't a part of her life, you know? 423 00:23:29,167 --> 00:23:33,105 When she came back to Houston, we did everything together. 424 00:23:34,573 --> 00:23:36,742 They had nothing like we had. 425 00:23:37,943 --> 00:23:39,978 I just knew he was a heroin addict. 426 00:23:40,112 --> 00:23:43,682 I said, "Wow, I mean... you're going out with a heroin a... 427 00:23:43,815 --> 00:23:45,717 Don't they just go to sleep 428 00:23:45,851 --> 00:23:48,053 and not want to have sex and all that?" 429 00:23:48,186 --> 00:23:50,355 And she said, "No, it's quite the opposite." 430 00:23:50,488 --> 00:23:51,757 [chuckles softly] 431 00:23:51,890 --> 00:23:53,525 So, when he would visit her in Dallas 432 00:23:53,659 --> 00:23:55,227 and they'd go, score some heroin 433 00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:56,995 and fuck all night. [laughs] 434 00:23:57,763 --> 00:24:00,732 So it was like, speed was for us, you know. 435 00:24:00,866 --> 00:24:02,935 So she enjoyed that. 436 00:24:05,671 --> 00:24:07,806 It is different after that. 437 00:24:09,473 --> 00:24:10,509 She was different. 438 00:24:10,642 --> 00:24:11,777 [helicopter blades whirring] 439 00:24:11,910 --> 00:24:13,444 She definitely wanted 440 00:24:13,578 --> 00:24:15,747 to be where people were doing something wrong... 441 00:24:18,417 --> 00:24:19,985 Where she had a purpose. 442 00:24:23,088 --> 00:24:25,489 CNN was just a different drug. 443 00:24:34,433 --> 00:24:36,201 [helicopter blades whirring] 444 00:24:36,335 --> 00:24:40,072 [ominous music playing] 445 00:24:48,246 --> 00:24:50,148 Depending on your personality makeup, 446 00:24:50,282 --> 00:24:52,718 you may want to brag about war and call it... 447 00:24:52,851 --> 00:24:54,786 it's... it's intoxicating. 448 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,588 If you're like me, you don't want to glorify it 449 00:24:56,722 --> 00:24:58,056 'Cause it's just awful. 450 00:24:58,190 --> 00:24:59,524 It is awful. 451 00:24:59,958 --> 00:25:02,327 But that said, your experience of it 452 00:25:02,461 --> 00:25:05,864 is an incredibly complex concoction 453 00:25:06,497 --> 00:25:07,666 of adrenaline, 454 00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:09,434 this and that and upset and surge. 455 00:25:09,568 --> 00:25:12,371 And so you could be upset and excited at the same time. 456 00:25:12,504 --> 00:25:15,007 So, while I hate to glorify it, 457 00:25:15,140 --> 00:25:17,209 you also... It was kind of a rush. 458 00:25:17,342 --> 00:25:18,410 [camera shutter clicking] 459 00:25:18,543 --> 00:25:20,245 War is a tough job. 460 00:25:20,379 --> 00:25:22,180 And we self-medicate it. 461 00:25:24,383 --> 00:25:25,650 This is life and death. 462 00:25:29,187 --> 00:25:32,290 [Yaschinka] 463 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,748 If you talk to veterans, too, 464 00:25:56,882 --> 00:25:58,917 there were soldiers, they'll tell you the same thing. 465 00:25:59,051 --> 00:26:01,186 You come back to civilian life... 466 00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:03,889 and it's kind of lonely 467 00:26:04,022 --> 00:26:06,526 because nobody will understand your stories, 468 00:26:06,658 --> 00:26:11,363 the strange serotonin chemical level, 469 00:26:11,496 --> 00:26:13,098 adrenaline, all this stuff. 470 00:26:13,231 --> 00:26:14,566 Of course, you're trying to tell that story 471 00:26:14,699 --> 00:26:16,034 of that experience and they think 472 00:26:16,168 --> 00:26:17,769 you're telling a glory story and you're not. 473 00:26:17,903 --> 00:26:19,304 And it's very lonely. 474 00:26:20,105 --> 00:26:22,808 [Yaschinka] 475 00:26:39,658 --> 00:26:41,026 [laughs] 476 00:26:54,039 --> 00:26:57,909 [techno music playing] 477 00:27:00,045 --> 00:27:01,547 [man on TV] On the streets of Gagra, 478 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,281 the Ossetian battle for independence goes on. 479 00:27:03,415 --> 00:27:06,384 [Stefano] Desert storm has just ended. 480 00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:08,787 The Soviet Union was over. 481 00:27:09,754 --> 00:27:11,156 There was a civil war 482 00:27:11,289 --> 00:27:13,792 in the former Soviet Republic of Georgia. 483 00:27:14,659 --> 00:27:16,596 And the gunman, the militiamen, 484 00:27:16,728 --> 00:27:19,297 for the new government that was trying to take over, 485 00:27:19,431 --> 00:27:20,732 open fire on the crowd. 486 00:27:23,368 --> 00:27:24,870 When the firing started, 487 00:27:25,003 --> 00:27:28,373 the other cameraman ducked behind the cars, 488 00:27:28,508 --> 00:27:30,576 and trying to wait to see what shots they can get. 489 00:27:30,709 --> 00:27:33,912 And one cameraman, later on, back at the hotel, said to me, 490 00:27:34,045 --> 00:27:36,414 "I'm hiding behind the car to get out of the gunfire. 491 00:27:36,549 --> 00:27:38,850 And I suddenly see a shadow across my arms, 492 00:27:38,984 --> 00:27:40,785 and I think, 'what the hell,' I look up.... 493 00:27:40,919 --> 00:27:43,655 And there's Margaret, standing straight upright, 494 00:27:43,788 --> 00:27:46,758 not hiding behind the vehicles, filming the action." 495 00:27:46,892 --> 00:27:49,694 [crowd uproar] 496 00:27:49,828 --> 00:27:51,363 [Stefano] She got the only pictures, 497 00:27:51,496 --> 00:27:53,599 she's filming people going down as they get hit. 498 00:27:53,732 --> 00:27:55,867 The other cameraman people were kind of startled 499 00:27:56,001 --> 00:27:58,036 that she had the guts to just say, "Uh-oh." 500 00:27:58,170 --> 00:28:00,472 and step right out in the middle of it. 501 00:28:01,574 --> 00:28:04,843 [Jeff] She took huge chances with her life. 502 00:28:05,677 --> 00:28:08,079 She came across somebody that was a bully. 503 00:28:08,213 --> 00:28:09,848 [Margaret] Who are you? Who are you? 504 00:28:09,981 --> 00:28:12,552 [Jeff] She just took him down, 505 00:28:13,218 --> 00:28:15,954 and she did it because she had to. 506 00:28:18,624 --> 00:28:20,425 She just became fearless. 507 00:28:23,428 --> 00:28:24,763 [interviewer] And do you ever dream 508 00:28:24,896 --> 00:28:26,331 that anything could go wrong? 509 00:28:27,132 --> 00:28:30,936 [Jeff] No. No, I thought she was the indestructible. 510 00:28:32,837 --> 00:28:35,040 [indistinct noise] 511 00:28:36,374 --> 00:28:38,678 [Stefano] I remember driving around Baghdad. 512 00:28:38,810 --> 00:28:41,547 We stopped at the marketplace, a souk, 513 00:28:41,681 --> 00:28:42,914 and it was big and it was... 514 00:28:43,048 --> 00:28:45,050 there were stalls and this and oranges 515 00:28:45,183 --> 00:28:46,652 and cucumbers and... 516 00:28:46,785 --> 00:28:48,353 Margaret got out of the car. 517 00:28:50,188 --> 00:28:51,823 There are all these kids and they're all coming up 518 00:28:51,957 --> 00:28:53,925 and looking at Margaret and laughing and like, "Ho, ho!" 519 00:28:54,059 --> 00:28:56,562 she sees so... She's so wild to them. 520 00:28:57,229 --> 00:28:58,863 And the kids are all crowding into the shot, 521 00:28:58,997 --> 00:29:00,298 trying to get into the shot. 522 00:29:00,432 --> 00:29:02,167 Like 30, 40, 50 are crowding in. 523 00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:05,705 And I've never seen a human crowd act like gasoline. 524 00:29:06,438 --> 00:29:09,040 It's just like a... [imitates explosion] spreading. 525 00:29:09,808 --> 00:29:11,109 All of a sudden, out of the crowd 526 00:29:11,243 --> 00:29:13,111 emerges some plain clothesmen, 527 00:29:13,245 --> 00:29:15,548 and he wants to put a stop to it. 528 00:29:16,181 --> 00:29:17,749 He stupidly goes up to... [chuckles] 529 00:29:17,882 --> 00:29:20,952 front and front of Margaret and he pushes the camera away, 530 00:29:21,086 --> 00:29:22,354 and it bangs her on the nose. 531 00:29:22,487 --> 00:29:24,089 Her viewfinder bangs on the nose. 532 00:29:24,222 --> 00:29:26,825 She stands up and in front of hundreds of people 533 00:29:26,958 --> 00:29:29,995 in Saddam's Iraq, in Saddam's city, 534 00:29:30,128 --> 00:29:33,298 she goes, "Don't you ever...". [slaps loudly] 535 00:29:36,167 --> 00:29:37,703 I never... [sighs] 536 00:29:37,836 --> 00:29:41,239 fully understood what was ticking inside of her. 537 00:29:44,109 --> 00:29:46,311 But I always felt that, my God, you know, 538 00:29:46,444 --> 00:29:48,380 there's a deep anger in there somewhere. 539 00:29:48,514 --> 00:29:51,383 I mean, you could sense that behind all of that, 540 00:29:51,517 --> 00:29:54,085 it came from a place of anger and defiance. 541 00:29:54,219 --> 00:29:55,954 You, know, when something sparked 542 00:29:56,087 --> 00:29:57,822 that kind of behaviour, 543 00:29:57,956 --> 00:29:59,291 it did make me wonder 544 00:29:59,424 --> 00:30:02,360 why she would be, you know, such a... 545 00:30:04,162 --> 00:30:06,064 such a change in character? 546 00:30:08,466 --> 00:30:10,402 [Jeff] Sometimes she would come home, 547 00:30:11,136 --> 00:30:12,804 and she would've encountered, like, 548 00:30:12,937 --> 00:30:14,906 what we call trigger episodes, 549 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,943 where she would... cry pretty spontaneously 550 00:30:19,077 --> 00:30:21,547 and non-stop for hours. 551 00:30:23,281 --> 00:30:24,583 That was terrifying. 552 00:30:25,651 --> 00:30:28,521 You know, I had this, like, person you care about 553 00:30:28,654 --> 00:30:32,190 that you've been around with and had so much intimacy with, 554 00:30:32,324 --> 00:30:34,359 You know, tears flowing, 555 00:30:34,492 --> 00:30:35,927 and she can't even bring herself 556 00:30:36,061 --> 00:30:37,829 to tell me one thing about it. 557 00:30:38,798 --> 00:30:40,131 What the fuck? 558 00:30:41,366 --> 00:30:43,335 When you're looking back, I can figure things out. 559 00:30:43,468 --> 00:30:45,437 I can put things together over the years, 560 00:30:45,571 --> 00:30:48,574 but back then, it was a total fucking mystery. 561 00:30:54,045 --> 00:30:56,414 [Yaschinka] 562 00:31:33,151 --> 00:31:35,120 There was something that she just didn't like 563 00:31:35,253 --> 00:31:38,356 about family traditional settings, 564 00:31:38,490 --> 00:31:41,292 and there were times when we would have Christmas dinner 565 00:31:41,426 --> 00:31:43,027 and it was, you know, friends. 566 00:31:43,662 --> 00:31:47,198 But Margaret preferred not to have kids around. 567 00:31:48,868 --> 00:31:51,302 [Jeff] Margaret's rocket fuel was anger. 568 00:31:53,905 --> 00:31:55,541 You never stopped sensing 569 00:31:55,674 --> 00:31:57,510 that somewhere in there, 570 00:31:57,643 --> 00:32:00,311 something was propelling her like a bat out of hell, 571 00:32:00,445 --> 00:32:03,915 out of her own past, her own childhood. 572 00:32:09,822 --> 00:32:12,424 We were hanging out, you know, in Houston 573 00:32:12,558 --> 00:32:15,694 and we're just, like, doing what we do around the table. 574 00:32:16,695 --> 00:32:18,463 I'd be playing my bass 575 00:32:20,098 --> 00:32:21,600 and she's started to draw... 576 00:32:22,967 --> 00:32:27,038 [sombre music playing] 577 00:32:30,543 --> 00:32:33,244 I mean, there's a nightmare for you. 578 00:32:34,580 --> 00:32:37,315 Who'd draw stuff like that, you know? 579 00:32:38,349 --> 00:32:42,487 [melancholic music playing] 580 00:32:47,492 --> 00:32:50,395 It's come straight out of her childhood. 581 00:32:56,267 --> 00:32:58,403 You know, she was a terrified little girl 582 00:32:58,537 --> 00:33:00,639 asking somebody not to hurt her. 583 00:33:02,307 --> 00:33:03,943 But to me, the most significant thing 584 00:33:04,075 --> 00:33:06,812 in those sketches was that she drew herself 585 00:33:06,946 --> 00:33:09,280 with the black hair and the dark eyes 586 00:33:09,981 --> 00:33:11,483 when she was a child. 587 00:33:12,651 --> 00:33:15,721 Like, that she thought of herself that way, 588 00:33:15,855 --> 00:33:17,255 that long ago. 589 00:33:18,591 --> 00:33:21,292 She was actively rewriting her story 590 00:33:21,426 --> 00:33:24,162 while that trauma was still being visited on her. 591 00:33:27,499 --> 00:33:28,868 Margaret Moth was a character. 592 00:33:29,434 --> 00:33:31,002 Moth is not her last name. 593 00:33:31,135 --> 00:33:32,505 Her last name is Wilson. 594 00:33:33,772 --> 00:33:35,941 She had invented the entire thing 595 00:33:36,074 --> 00:33:37,342 a long time ago. 596 00:33:40,178 --> 00:33:41,279 She was a little blonde-haired, 597 00:33:41,412 --> 00:33:42,681 blue-eyed,12-year-old 598 00:33:42,815 --> 00:33:44,717 when she conceived of that look. 599 00:33:48,654 --> 00:33:52,725 Why she rejected her blonde, blue-eyed self? 600 00:33:54,158 --> 00:33:55,426 It was a mystery. 601 00:34:01,634 --> 00:34:04,135 [Jan] We were never a close family. 602 00:34:05,403 --> 00:34:07,606 We were never told that we were loved, ever, 603 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:08,974 by either parent. 604 00:34:10,074 --> 00:34:12,443 We never knew whether dad was gonna come home sober 605 00:34:12,578 --> 00:34:14,379 or come home at all, half the time. 606 00:34:14,847 --> 00:34:17,415 And six o'clock, we'd hear the car come up the driveway 607 00:34:17,550 --> 00:34:21,020 and all our little faces would turned towards the door 608 00:34:21,152 --> 00:34:22,420 as he walked in and you could... 609 00:34:22,555 --> 00:34:24,690 you could just feel the tension. 610 00:34:27,058 --> 00:34:28,426 [Ross] It was quite scary. 611 00:34:29,628 --> 00:34:31,296 But Mum was probably more violent 612 00:34:31,429 --> 00:34:33,331 - than what Dad was. [chuckles] -[Jan] Yes. 613 00:34:34,700 --> 00:34:36,535 When she lost it, her eyes... [chuckles] 614 00:34:36,802 --> 00:34:39,772 her eyes would go black like a demon. 615 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,108 [Jan] I remember Margaret saying about that, 616 00:34:44,242 --> 00:34:45,443 you know, "Beware of Mum's eyes." 617 00:34:45,578 --> 00:34:47,245 -"They will go black." -Yeah. 618 00:34:47,378 --> 00:34:49,582 It was pretty violent discipline in those days. 619 00:34:49,715 --> 00:34:52,083 It was either a hairbrush or a coat hanger 620 00:34:52,216 --> 00:34:53,752 or a razor strop or a belt. 621 00:34:53,886 --> 00:34:56,055 [laughs sadly] 622 00:34:56,187 --> 00:34:59,324 It used to wrap right around her hand. 623 00:34:59,457 --> 00:35:02,595 Hold her hand out and it would wrap right round. 624 00:35:03,094 --> 00:35:04,630 with a buckle. 625 00:35:05,698 --> 00:35:08,000 She said, "If the pill had been around in those days... 626 00:35:08,132 --> 00:35:09,635 none of youse would've been here." 627 00:35:09,768 --> 00:35:11,469 [laughs] 628 00:35:13,872 --> 00:35:16,875 [Jeff] Margaret started shredding the ties that bind 629 00:35:17,009 --> 00:35:18,711 at a very young age. 630 00:35:20,012 --> 00:35:23,348 [sombre music playing] 631 00:35:24,516 --> 00:35:27,151 [Yaschinka in French] 632 00:36:07,993 --> 00:36:09,561 [laughs] 633 00:36:11,462 --> 00:36:13,632 [sombre music playing] 634 00:36:16,635 --> 00:36:20,773 [machine guns firing] 635 00:36:20,906 --> 00:36:23,408 [firing continues] 636 00:36:23,542 --> 00:36:25,343 The first time I met and worked with Margaret 637 00:36:25,476 --> 00:36:29,815 was in Sarajevo in June and July of 1992. 638 00:36:29,948 --> 00:36:31,684 [man on TV] The people of Sarajevo 639 00:36:31,817 --> 00:36:34,119 have been under siege for almost eight months. 640 00:36:34,252 --> 00:36:35,721 They have very little food, 641 00:36:35,854 --> 00:36:38,590 no electricity and almost no water. 642 00:36:39,223 --> 00:36:40,458 [loud thud] 643 00:36:40,592 --> 00:36:41,593 [Christiane] This, at the time, 644 00:36:41,727 --> 00:36:44,029 was the worst war in Europe 645 00:36:44,163 --> 00:36:46,197 since the end of World War II. 646 00:36:46,865 --> 00:36:49,068 It's war against civilians. It's a war crime. 647 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,838 And that's what Margaret's pictures started to record. 648 00:36:52,971 --> 00:36:54,973 [man 2 on TV] Snipers hidden in these buildings, 649 00:36:55,107 --> 00:36:56,474 which the Serbs control, 650 00:36:56,608 --> 00:36:58,977 kill or wound people almost every day. 651 00:36:59,111 --> 00:37:00,679 -[gunshots] -[man 2 on TV] Sniper Alley, 652 00:37:00,813 --> 00:37:03,649 the most dangerous road in Sarajevo. 653 00:37:03,782 --> 00:37:05,150 [gunfire] 654 00:37:05,283 --> 00:37:06,952 [Christiane on TV] Even when the big guns go quiet, 655 00:37:07,086 --> 00:37:08,854 the snipers never quit. 656 00:37:08,987 --> 00:37:10,756 Barely a minute goes by 657 00:37:10,889 --> 00:37:13,992 without snipers firing a terrified resident. 658 00:37:14,727 --> 00:37:17,261 You know, the captors or the aggressors 659 00:37:17,395 --> 00:37:18,831 could see the victims. 660 00:37:18,964 --> 00:37:20,599 They could see them through their sights, 661 00:37:20,733 --> 00:37:23,702 because they were just a few hundred yards over there. 662 00:37:23,836 --> 00:37:27,706 And they actually, physically, took aim at children... 663 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,808 [gun shots fire] 664 00:37:29,942 --> 00:37:31,610 running, trying to cross a road, 665 00:37:31,744 --> 00:37:32,978 you know, behind containers. 666 00:37:33,112 --> 00:37:34,580 [loud gunshot] 667 00:37:34,713 --> 00:37:37,448 And the world still would not intervene. 668 00:37:37,850 --> 00:37:39,985 [man on TV] Sarajevo's latest casualty. 669 00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:42,353 He was seven-years-old. 670 00:37:43,922 --> 00:37:46,457 His sister screamed, "Is my brother alive?" 671 00:37:46,592 --> 00:37:48,426 His mother didn't know the answer. 672 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:49,862 She too had been hit. 673 00:37:49,995 --> 00:37:51,429 [loud explosion] 674 00:37:52,097 --> 00:37:55,100 [Christiane] We came under mortar fire and attack. 675 00:37:55,234 --> 00:37:56,501 [loud gunfire] 676 00:37:56,635 --> 00:37:58,302 Margaret was out shooting. 677 00:37:58,436 --> 00:38:01,940 Finally, she came back in when she got all the pictures. 678 00:38:02,074 --> 00:38:03,675 But it was really scary. 679 00:38:03,809 --> 00:38:05,476 And I remember saying to my producer, 680 00:38:05,611 --> 00:38:06,779 and then afterwards to Margaret, 681 00:38:06,912 --> 00:38:08,379 "I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 682 00:38:08,514 --> 00:38:09,915 I'm sorry, I brought you here. 683 00:38:10,048 --> 00:38:12,885 I promise, if we survive, we'll never do this again. 684 00:38:13,018 --> 00:38:14,418 We'll never put you in danger again. 685 00:38:14,553 --> 00:38:16,588 I'll never, ever risk our lives again." 686 00:38:16,722 --> 00:38:18,557 And the very next day, we did. 687 00:38:23,629 --> 00:38:25,329 [Peter] In the early days in Sarajevo, 688 00:38:25,463 --> 00:38:28,066 there was very little protective gear. 689 00:38:28,767 --> 00:38:30,102 There were some flag jackets, 690 00:38:30,235 --> 00:38:32,104 but nobody was wearing helmets at that time. 691 00:38:32,237 --> 00:38:34,740 You relied on the fact that you had a press pass, 692 00:38:35,641 --> 00:38:37,643 and your car had "TV." 693 00:38:38,911 --> 00:38:41,847 It was the first time that jounalists 694 00:38:41,980 --> 00:38:45,717 were deliberately picked on by snipers. 695 00:38:45,851 --> 00:38:47,686 [gunshot] 696 00:38:52,090 --> 00:38:54,193 We were plenty-pissed that the sniper shot at us. 697 00:38:54,325 --> 00:38:56,595 The first time I went out there, I was really afraid. 698 00:38:56,728 --> 00:38:59,565 I was sitting on the aeroplane going into, um, Zagreb. 699 00:38:59,698 --> 00:39:01,700 [chuckles] And I thought... [chuckles] 700 00:39:01,834 --> 00:39:04,102 "Oh, my God! Say, I lose a leg? 701 00:39:04,236 --> 00:39:05,704 What if I lose a leg?" 702 00:39:05,838 --> 00:39:07,806 I kept thinking I was gonna lose a leg, not my life, 703 00:39:07,940 --> 00:39:09,508 just, "What am I gonna do?" You know. 704 00:39:09,641 --> 00:39:11,977 Um, and I think that's one of the things 705 00:39:12,110 --> 00:39:13,979 that some of us have said in the past. 706 00:39:14,112 --> 00:39:16,347 If you admit that you are frightened, 707 00:39:17,415 --> 00:39:20,219 somehow, you're more concentrated. 708 00:39:20,351 --> 00:39:22,721 Because, if you're too gung-ho, 709 00:39:22,855 --> 00:39:24,022 you're not really concentrating 710 00:39:24,156 --> 00:39:24,990 in the right way. 711 00:39:25,123 --> 00:39:26,692 [gunshot] 712 00:39:27,526 --> 00:39:28,426 [Christiane] I remember telling Margaret 713 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,895 who'd been there 714 00:39:30,028 --> 00:39:31,597 at least two weeks longer than I had, 715 00:39:31,730 --> 00:39:33,298 that she should leave as well, 716 00:39:33,431 --> 00:39:38,003 because there's only so much Russian roulette you can play. 717 00:39:38,136 --> 00:39:39,738 [gunshots] 718 00:40:11,803 --> 00:40:12,971 When we first went out there, 719 00:40:13,105 --> 00:40:14,072 I met up with Martin Bell 720 00:40:14,206 --> 00:40:16,108 and he showed me a white Carlton Estate 721 00:40:16,241 --> 00:40:17,276 with no windows. 722 00:40:17,408 --> 00:40:18,844 He said, "This is the camera car." 723 00:40:18,977 --> 00:40:20,779 "Yeah, great. Where is the camera car?" 724 00:40:20,913 --> 00:40:22,681 "No, no, this is the camera car." 725 00:40:24,316 --> 00:40:26,785 So, I mean, we're all in soft-skin vehicles. 726 00:40:26,919 --> 00:40:29,121 Oh, we sometimes had "Press" written on the side. 727 00:40:29,254 --> 00:40:30,856 [car engine revving] 728 00:40:30,989 --> 00:40:33,191 But we would also go in convoys. 729 00:40:36,762 --> 00:40:38,297 I think that gives you a certain strength, 730 00:40:38,429 --> 00:40:40,532 the feeling that, you know, we're together in this. 731 00:40:44,269 --> 00:40:46,838 [Stefano] Well, one day we're driving around town. 732 00:40:46,972 --> 00:40:49,007 The road was clear, we drove down into the city 733 00:40:49,141 --> 00:40:51,677 to the Holiday Inn, the hotel we were all staying at. 734 00:40:52,945 --> 00:40:54,613 Now, you have to understand, the Holiday Inn 735 00:40:54,746 --> 00:40:56,181 was not your Holiday Inn. 736 00:40:56,315 --> 00:40:57,282 [chuckles] 737 00:40:57,416 --> 00:40:59,051 It was not your average hotel. 738 00:40:59,184 --> 00:41:00,686 [gunfire] 739 00:41:00,819 --> 00:41:03,055 There's a lot of gunfire happening around the area. 740 00:41:03,188 --> 00:41:04,423 [gunfire] 741 00:41:04,923 --> 00:41:07,125 It was obviously a very nice hotel before the war, 742 00:41:07,259 --> 00:41:10,028 but it had been struck again and again. 743 00:41:10,963 --> 00:41:12,463 [gunshot] 744 00:41:12,597 --> 00:41:14,399 [loud explosion] 745 00:41:15,033 --> 00:41:19,004 It was sort of sodden and destroyed and pock-marked. 746 00:41:20,973 --> 00:41:23,642 You have to understand that war is... 747 00:41:23,775 --> 00:41:26,912 does peculiar things to the things that you behold, 748 00:41:27,045 --> 00:41:29,581 order and normalcy that has been shattered. 749 00:41:29,715 --> 00:41:33,685 [ominous music playing] 750 00:41:37,356 --> 00:41:40,225 [Susan] There is something poetic about roads 751 00:41:40,359 --> 00:41:42,160 that have no traffic on. 752 00:41:42,627 --> 00:41:44,863 There's just us. 753 00:41:48,166 --> 00:41:49,901 [Stefano] I remember it like a nightmare, 754 00:41:50,035 --> 00:41:52,237 but at least in the nightmare you can flail, 755 00:41:52,371 --> 00:41:55,007 you can panic, and you can wake up. 756 00:41:56,942 --> 00:41:59,544 That day was something you couldn't escape from. 757 00:42:01,013 --> 00:42:04,383 [mysterious music playing] 758 00:42:04,516 --> 00:42:06,818 We have our armed vests on. 759 00:42:11,590 --> 00:42:13,759 You have the big long avenue. 760 00:42:15,460 --> 00:42:16,728 And before, there were nice shrubs 761 00:42:16,862 --> 00:42:18,096 growing down the middle, 762 00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:19,231 they've all been crushed and dried. 763 00:42:19,364 --> 00:42:21,600 [tense music builds] 764 00:42:21,733 --> 00:42:23,101 The trees were flowering. 765 00:42:23,235 --> 00:42:25,303 Now they've got chips, aggressive chips 766 00:42:25,437 --> 00:42:27,739 and bark missing and scoured. 767 00:42:27,873 --> 00:42:29,141 The trees have been scoured 768 00:42:29,274 --> 00:42:30,675 and branches have turned into splinters. 769 00:42:30,809 --> 00:42:32,144 The leaves are all gone. 770 00:42:34,846 --> 00:42:36,782 The trolley lines... 771 00:42:38,650 --> 00:42:40,919 are now snaking across the ground. 772 00:42:42,087 --> 00:42:43,922 [Susan] They're with these metal kind of crosses, 773 00:42:44,056 --> 00:42:46,691 great big metal crosses, like roadblocks. 774 00:42:47,392 --> 00:42:49,261 So you'd have to go round, 775 00:42:49,995 --> 00:42:52,464 which makes it harder to... to be a target. 776 00:42:53,632 --> 00:42:55,834 [Stefano] You drive any damn way you want. 777 00:42:55,967 --> 00:42:57,402 There's no rules. 778 00:42:57,537 --> 00:43:00,005 We just squirve left into... like, in the movies, 779 00:43:00,138 --> 00:43:03,475 you go [imitates thumping] over the trolley lines. 780 00:43:03,608 --> 00:43:04,876 It's Mad Max. 781 00:43:07,312 --> 00:43:10,148 Margaret and Mark are seated in the back of the van. 782 00:43:10,282 --> 00:43:12,150 I'm seated in the front passenger seat. 783 00:43:12,284 --> 00:43:14,052 They're saying, "Well, here's this, here's that," 784 00:43:14,186 --> 00:43:16,288 and I'm looking, and there's the apartment buildings there, 785 00:43:16,421 --> 00:43:18,790 and I'm looking left and right, and all of a sudden... 786 00:43:18,924 --> 00:43:20,592 -[imitates machine gun firing] -[machine gun firing] 787 00:43:20,725 --> 00:43:22,027 [glass shattering] 788 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,796 [Susan] I saw some, like, flash. 789 00:43:26,198 --> 00:43:29,334 [Stefano] I just felt a mist of glass. 790 00:43:31,169 --> 00:43:32,704 I didn't know whether it'd gone over mine or something. 791 00:43:32,838 --> 00:43:34,139 I didn't know what had happened. 792 00:43:34,272 --> 00:43:35,440 I didn't know if it was a gun or whatever. 793 00:43:35,575 --> 00:43:36,842 It was just like a loud crack. 794 00:43:37,642 --> 00:43:39,010 It's almost like, you know, 795 00:43:39,144 --> 00:43:40,580 you're touching the static and it goes into it. 796 00:43:40,712 --> 00:43:41,813 It is just that... [imitates frizzing] 797 00:43:41,947 --> 00:43:43,448 I laughed. I laughed. 798 00:43:43,583 --> 00:43:44,883 And I'm leaning forward now. 799 00:43:45,016 --> 00:43:46,485 I'm hunched down and I grabbed my helmet 800 00:43:46,618 --> 00:43:47,919 and I put it on my head, 801 00:43:48,053 --> 00:43:50,789 unaware, that behind me, Margaret's been shot. 802 00:43:52,491 --> 00:43:56,194 Our driver spins the car around and he starts driving. 803 00:43:57,597 --> 00:43:59,364 You know, we're racing, I look forward again, 804 00:43:59,498 --> 00:44:00,866 and the next time I look back, 805 00:44:00,999 --> 00:44:03,802 she slumped over this way, on Mark's shoulder. 806 00:44:03,935 --> 00:44:06,705 He's wearing a white shirt, and she's starting to go, 807 00:44:06,838 --> 00:44:08,807 [imitates choking] because she's... 808 00:44:08,940 --> 00:44:11,710 blood is draining in down her throat. 809 00:44:12,777 --> 00:44:14,614 Her eyes, with her mascara. 810 00:44:14,746 --> 00:44:17,115 Her eyes are like, diamond sharp light. 811 00:44:18,717 --> 00:44:21,353 We race into town, careening over the trolley lines 812 00:44:21,486 --> 00:44:24,489 and pull up in front of the hospital. 813 00:44:24,624 --> 00:44:26,291 And I'm screaming, 814 00:44:26,424 --> 00:44:27,192 "You gotta help, she can't breathe, you got to help her." 815 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,196 But I don't see that her jaw is gone. 816 00:44:31,329 --> 00:44:33,198 I think she's holding it in place, still. 817 00:44:33,331 --> 00:44:36,434 [CNN news opening music] 818 00:44:36,569 --> 00:44:38,069 CNN's Stefan Kutsonis 819 00:44:38,203 --> 00:44:40,172 was with Moth and Delmage during the shooting, 820 00:44:40,305 --> 00:44:42,642 and he joins us now from Sarajevo by phone 821 00:44:42,774 --> 00:44:44,176 with an update on the situation. 822 00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:46,512 We want to warn you that he has graphic details 823 00:44:46,646 --> 00:44:47,580 of this attack. 824 00:44:47,712 --> 00:44:49,447 Stefan, bring us up to date. 825 00:44:49,881 --> 00:44:51,183 [Stefano on TV] Hello. 826 00:44:51,316 --> 00:44:52,884 First of all, I'd like to say that 827 00:44:53,018 --> 00:44:54,520 Margaret is still in surgery right now, 828 00:44:54,654 --> 00:44:56,188 and the doctors have now said 829 00:44:56,321 --> 00:44:57,956 that it's not guaranteed that she will survive this. 830 00:44:58,089 --> 00:44:59,559 The severe injuries 831 00:44:59,691 --> 00:45:02,460 to her head and throat are like, very serious. 832 00:45:02,595 --> 00:45:04,262 Uh, even if she does survive it, 833 00:45:04,396 --> 00:45:06,464 her life will be very different from now on. 834 00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:07,933 I was so overwhelmed. 835 00:45:08,066 --> 00:45:09,367 You know, I was brimming, 836 00:45:09,501 --> 00:45:12,904 exploding with emotion and stress and fear. 837 00:45:13,038 --> 00:45:14,839 I still at this point had blood 838 00:45:14,973 --> 00:45:16,174 all over my pants and shoes, 839 00:45:16,308 --> 00:45:17,876 and I didn't know what was coming next. 840 00:45:18,009 --> 00:45:19,878 I was told she may not survive. 841 00:45:20,011 --> 00:45:22,682 [woman on TV] She was rushed to Sarajevo's main hospital 842 00:45:22,814 --> 00:45:26,151 where doctors spent four hours patching-up her shattered jaw. 843 00:45:26,284 --> 00:45:28,987 She needed a tracheotomy so she could breathe. 844 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,056 All of this part is gone. 845 00:45:31,189 --> 00:45:35,260 And this part has swollen out like a watermelon. 846 00:45:36,127 --> 00:45:37,829 I remember seeing all of her upper molars, 847 00:45:37,963 --> 00:45:39,264 you know how each molar 848 00:45:39,397 --> 00:45:40,666 has four little points on it, sort of? 849 00:45:40,799 --> 00:45:42,367 The shockwave it had-- 850 00:45:42,500 --> 00:45:45,270 It just shattered these molars. 851 00:45:45,737 --> 00:45:47,272 They were now splinters. 852 00:45:47,405 --> 00:45:49,975 I got a call from my bosses that Margaret had been shot. 853 00:45:50,108 --> 00:45:51,409 And at first I thought, 854 00:45:51,544 --> 00:45:52,678 "My God, don't tell me she's been killed." 855 00:45:52,811 --> 00:45:54,145 "No, she hasn't been killed, 856 00:45:54,279 --> 00:45:57,617 but she's been very, very badly injured, 857 00:45:57,749 --> 00:45:58,950 and she was sniped." 858 00:45:59,084 --> 00:46:00,285 And I knew exactly what had happened, 859 00:46:00,418 --> 00:46:03,188 because we had been sniped for weeks. 860 00:46:06,791 --> 00:46:08,927 [Susan] Everybody was in a state of shock. 861 00:46:10,529 --> 00:46:12,531 And I remember talking to a medic and I said, 862 00:46:12,665 --> 00:46:14,966 "How is Margaret? So, she's been airlifted?" 863 00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:16,535 He said, "But you know, pfft, 864 00:46:16,669 --> 00:46:18,604 probably best if she died." 865 00:46:18,738 --> 00:46:20,038 I said, "What?" 866 00:46:20,171 --> 00:46:21,373 He said, "Yeah, you know, with those injuries, 867 00:46:21,507 --> 00:46:22,874 I mean, really, would you wanna 868 00:46:23,008 --> 00:46:24,342 have those injuries to your face?" 869 00:46:27,245 --> 00:46:29,247 [Christiane] They gave her a blood transfusion. 870 00:46:30,248 --> 00:46:34,386 She was airlifted out to the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota. 871 00:46:36,254 --> 00:46:37,623 And I didn't know what I was going to find 872 00:46:37,757 --> 00:46:39,324 when I got to the hospital. 873 00:46:41,092 --> 00:46:42,360 She was unrecognizable. 874 00:46:42,494 --> 00:46:44,496 And at the time, she couldn't talk, 875 00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:46,364 but she could do some writing. 876 00:46:51,469 --> 00:46:53,938 I went in and she looked at me. 877 00:46:54,806 --> 00:46:56,575 And I'll never forget, it was... 878 00:46:57,309 --> 00:46:59,911 this look in her, you know, big blue eyes. 879 00:47:00,045 --> 00:47:01,514 and she was... 880 00:47:01,647 --> 00:47:04,750 started crying and kicking her legs, 881 00:47:04,883 --> 00:47:09,087 trying to talk to me, like, "Look, what's happened to me." 882 00:47:14,694 --> 00:47:17,596 And I was trying to calm her down and it was really... 883 00:47:19,864 --> 00:47:20,999 ...tough. 884 00:47:21,132 --> 00:47:23,335 It was a very tough moment. 885 00:47:24,770 --> 00:47:26,104 [Jeff] I work at Kinkos, 886 00:47:26,739 --> 00:47:28,674 they put me on a register in the front. 887 00:47:29,775 --> 00:47:32,010 These two guys were getting their coffees, 888 00:47:32,143 --> 00:47:33,345 you know, getting their money out and whatever, 889 00:47:33,478 --> 00:47:35,013 this guy said to the other guy, 890 00:47:35,146 --> 00:47:36,948 he said, "Did you hear about Margaret Moth?" 891 00:47:37,082 --> 00:47:39,752 And he said, "Yes, she got shot in Sarajevo." 892 00:47:39,884 --> 00:47:41,620 "It blew her jaw right off." 893 00:47:41,754 --> 00:47:43,154 "She's not gonna make it." 894 00:47:44,623 --> 00:47:47,560 That's how I heard about it... from strangers. 895 00:47:48,993 --> 00:47:51,963 I was really angry from that point forward. 896 00:47:52,765 --> 00:47:54,065 I was livid. 897 00:47:55,300 --> 00:47:58,436 My Margaret died on Sniper Alley. 898 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:01,873 She didn't come back. 899 00:48:02,006 --> 00:48:06,177 [sombre music playing] 900 00:48:12,718 --> 00:48:16,955 [Yaschinka] 901 00:48:48,153 --> 00:48:51,189 [melancholic music playing] 902 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:43,709 Yeah, mum rang and told me 903 00:49:43,843 --> 00:49:46,912 that she'd been shot in the face by a sniper. 904 00:49:47,045 --> 00:49:48,313 Yeah. 905 00:49:49,414 --> 00:49:50,683 Well, you're sort of like... 906 00:49:50,816 --> 00:49:54,152 until I saw her, I didn't realize the extent. 907 00:49:54,620 --> 00:49:55,621 Mm. 908 00:49:58,122 --> 00:49:59,625 Yeah, she was very vain. 909 00:49:59,758 --> 00:50:02,193 And my first thought when she got shot was, 910 00:50:02,327 --> 00:50:05,731 "Oh, my God, for that to happen to Maggie's face... 911 00:50:06,665 --> 00:50:08,099 was incredible." 912 00:50:09,768 --> 00:50:13,004 [Yaschinka] 913 00:50:26,685 --> 00:50:29,588 [Joe] They started putting her face together. 914 00:50:30,255 --> 00:50:32,457 And they had to rebuild her jaw 915 00:50:32,591 --> 00:50:35,326 because the jaw had been blown off. 916 00:50:36,996 --> 00:50:38,597 She had lost all her teeth, 917 00:50:38,731 --> 00:50:41,600 and it was always as typical Margaret, 918 00:50:41,734 --> 00:50:43,636 that she would say, 919 00:50:43,769 --> 00:50:46,404 "I want to go back to Sarajevo and look for my teeth." 920 00:51:03,221 --> 00:51:04,623 [loud gunshot] 921 00:51:25,711 --> 00:51:30,749 [dark music] 922 00:51:37,155 --> 00:51:38,289 [Jan] The French guy? 923 00:51:38,757 --> 00:51:41,060 Mum said that she didn't like him. 924 00:51:42,027 --> 00:51:44,763 Maggie always had younger boyfriends. 925 00:51:44,897 --> 00:51:47,032 You know, they'd be all lovely-dovey on phone, 926 00:51:47,165 --> 00:51:48,701 and I couldn't believe her. 927 00:51:48,834 --> 00:51:52,337 I never heard Maggie talk like that to anybody, you know? 928 00:51:52,470 --> 00:51:54,506 So, yeah, it was strange. 929 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,274 She's laying there bandaged 930 00:51:56,407 --> 00:51:58,276 and was supposed to be all sterile and everything. 931 00:51:58,409 --> 00:52:00,478 And he's climbing all over the top of her 932 00:52:00,613 --> 00:52:01,814 and kissing her and cuddling her 933 00:52:01,947 --> 00:52:03,749 and rubbing his hands all over her, 934 00:52:03,882 --> 00:52:06,652 yeah, but Mum wasn't impressed at all. 935 00:52:12,725 --> 00:52:14,392 Mum didn't like it because she reckoned 936 00:52:14,526 --> 00:52:16,461 he was selling stuff out of Margaret's flat 937 00:52:16,595 --> 00:52:18,631 while she was in hospital. 938 00:52:18,764 --> 00:52:20,231 Stealing it and then selling it. 939 00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:24,202 Finally, she found out that he was a heroin addict. 940 00:52:33,612 --> 00:52:37,116 Maggie had the money and he didn't. 941 00:52:37,248 --> 00:52:39,484 So, maybe it was that sort of relationship. 942 00:52:39,618 --> 00:52:41,319 She... she nurtured him 943 00:52:41,452 --> 00:52:43,956 and he was happy to go along with it. 944 00:52:44,089 --> 00:52:46,859 [suspenseful music playing] 945 00:52:46,992 --> 00:52:48,727 [Yaschinka] 946 00:54:46,145 --> 00:54:49,114 [Jeff] Well, at this point, we had been apart for so long, 947 00:54:49,681 --> 00:54:51,150 very, very little contact. 948 00:54:51,950 --> 00:54:54,385 I was too ashamed to talk to her, 949 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:55,721 because my life had just 950 00:54:55,854 --> 00:54:58,289 revolved around drinking and drugs, 951 00:54:58,422 --> 00:55:01,425 and I just couldn't... deal with it. 952 00:55:05,564 --> 00:55:06,965 Couple of times she sent me a ticket, 953 00:55:07,099 --> 00:55:09,234 and I couldn't stay sober long enough 954 00:55:09,367 --> 00:55:10,669 to get on an airplane. 955 00:55:14,773 --> 00:55:16,975 All I could see was what I had lost, 956 00:55:17,109 --> 00:55:19,343 you know, not what she had lost. 957 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,849 I disappointed her a lot. 958 00:55:26,450 --> 00:55:29,521 I rejected her on almost every level. 959 00:55:31,290 --> 00:55:32,925 [thunderous rumbling] 960 00:55:33,058 --> 00:55:35,928 [techno music playing] 961 00:55:37,162 --> 00:55:39,932 [Yaschinka] 962 00:56:14,900 --> 00:56:15,934 [scoffs] 963 00:56:40,926 --> 00:56:42,661 [Joe] Before she was shot, 964 00:56:42,794 --> 00:56:44,462 people would stare because she was so beautiful, 965 00:56:44,596 --> 00:56:47,766 and with these long flowing skirts. 966 00:56:47,900 --> 00:56:50,168 But after she was shot, 967 00:56:50,302 --> 00:56:53,038 her mouth was crooked and she lost part of her tongue. 968 00:56:54,438 --> 00:56:55,473 She didn't have teeth, 969 00:56:55,607 --> 00:56:57,109 and you don't have teeth, 970 00:56:57,242 --> 00:56:59,945 you can't eat properly, you can't speak properly. 971 00:57:01,146 --> 00:57:04,583 [Yaschinka] 972 00:57:10,889 --> 00:57:12,858 [Joe] People would stare. 973 00:57:14,192 --> 00:57:15,861 [Yaschinka] 974 00:58:08,013 --> 00:58:09,614 [Jeff] The sniper on Sniper Alley 975 00:58:09,748 --> 00:58:11,183 wasn't gonna bring her down. 976 00:58:12,284 --> 00:58:13,652 She was better than that. 977 00:58:15,187 --> 00:58:19,524 [dramatic music playing] 978 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,976 She went into a little capsule and, you know, 979 00:58:38,110 --> 00:58:41,513 like a cocoon, and came out something other. 980 00:58:58,964 --> 00:59:00,799 I think for Margaret, 981 00:59:00,932 --> 00:59:03,301 anything else but radical acceptance 982 00:59:03,435 --> 00:59:04,736 would have been defeat. 983 00:59:08,907 --> 00:59:12,044 [intense music] 984 00:59:18,483 --> 00:59:20,886 [Stefano] At some point, Margaret realized 985 00:59:21,019 --> 00:59:24,289 she needed to fight tooth and nail to get back. 986 00:59:27,325 --> 00:59:30,362 My God, the inner physical strength of that woman. 987 00:59:31,263 --> 00:59:34,766 [physiotherapist] And back, all the way. 988 00:59:36,001 --> 00:59:37,769 Let's go down to the bed first. 989 00:59:42,340 --> 00:59:44,476 [Stefano] She had the guts to just say, 990 00:59:44,609 --> 00:59:47,712 [determined tone] "Don't strip me of my pride." 991 00:59:47,846 --> 00:59:48,747 [physiotherapist] Can you reach your hand 992 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,315 to the headboard? 993 00:59:54,119 --> 00:59:56,088 [Doctor Paul] Okay, open as wide as you can for me. 994 00:59:56,221 --> 00:59:57,956 I know you can't open it very wide. 995 00:59:59,124 --> 01:00:00,592 I'm just trying to look and see 996 01:00:00,725 --> 01:00:02,327 if you have any sutures that I can see. 997 01:00:02,461 --> 01:00:04,329 Can you feel your lower lip any better now? 998 01:00:04,463 --> 01:00:07,866 [Margaret] Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can feel it right over here. 999 01:00:07,999 --> 01:00:09,569 [Doctor Paul] Very good. Good. 1000 01:00:09,701 --> 01:00:11,269 I feel pressure. 1001 01:00:11,403 --> 01:00:14,206 I never saw her spirit flag. 1002 01:00:14,339 --> 01:00:17,142 I never saw her feel sorry for herself. 1003 01:00:17,943 --> 01:00:20,979 I never saw her say, "No," to any challenge. 1004 01:00:36,294 --> 01:00:38,296 Well, she was very keen to return to work 1005 01:00:38,430 --> 01:00:39,865 as soon as possible. 1006 01:00:39,998 --> 01:00:42,234 [demonstrators chanting] 1007 01:00:44,202 --> 01:00:46,506 [Peter] The international desk had recommended 1008 01:00:46,638 --> 01:00:50,675 that she take it easy in terms of assignments. 1009 01:00:52,978 --> 01:00:55,147 She did her share of the various stories 1010 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,115 that we were doing in Paris. 1011 01:00:57,249 --> 01:00:59,519 How romantic, okay, excuse me. 1012 01:00:59,651 --> 01:01:00,919 Her mental state was, 1013 01:01:01,052 --> 01:01:02,888 you know, "I'm going to go back to work." 1014 01:01:03,021 --> 01:01:04,590 [indistinct voice] 1015 01:01:05,257 --> 01:01:08,059 [Joe] But it was not easy to go back to work. 1016 01:01:08,193 --> 01:01:09,895 [male journalist] Ah! These two ladies here. 1017 01:01:10,028 --> 01:01:11,396 [Joe] She was weak. 1018 01:01:11,531 --> 01:01:14,833 She had been fed through a tube into her stomach 1019 01:01:14,966 --> 01:01:18,870 because she couldn't eat and she had lost weight. 1020 01:01:19,871 --> 01:01:21,973 Margaret wanted to do what she loved to do, 1021 01:01:22,107 --> 01:01:24,142 and that was covering war. 1022 01:01:24,276 --> 01:01:25,611 Three, two, one. 1023 01:01:25,744 --> 01:01:26,978 The union say, 1024 01:01:27,112 --> 01:01:29,114 "Thursday's action is just a warning." 1025 01:01:31,216 --> 01:01:32,784 [Peter] She did complain about the fact 1026 01:01:32,918 --> 01:01:35,020 that myself and the assignments editor 1027 01:01:35,153 --> 01:01:37,289 were deliberately plotting to keep her away 1028 01:01:37,422 --> 01:01:38,790 from what she considered 1029 01:01:38,924 --> 01:01:40,526 to be the essential stories of the day 1030 01:01:40,660 --> 01:01:42,227 and she felt hard done by. 1031 01:01:44,095 --> 01:01:45,565 One of the things that stood out 1032 01:01:45,697 --> 01:01:46,965 for the rest of us in the Bureau, of course, 1033 01:01:47,098 --> 01:01:48,166 was the fact that Margaret 1034 01:01:48,300 --> 01:01:50,101 found it very difficult to talk. 1035 01:02:00,145 --> 01:02:01,846 Down here was still her physical strength 1036 01:02:01,980 --> 01:02:03,148 because she would still lift the cameras. 1037 01:02:03,281 --> 01:02:04,883 There was no slowing down of that. 1038 01:02:05,016 --> 01:02:07,352 But it was very hard for her to work with you 1039 01:02:07,485 --> 01:02:10,422 when she didn't have a tongue to communicate properly. 1040 01:02:10,556 --> 01:02:12,157 [slurred speech] 1041 01:02:12,290 --> 01:02:13,792 She would talk and it was, just drool was coming out. 1042 01:02:13,925 --> 01:02:15,260 She always had to dab her mouth. 1043 01:02:15,393 --> 01:02:17,329 She couldn't control the drool, right? 1044 01:02:17,462 --> 01:02:18,797 She'd say, "Oh, I--" 1045 01:02:18,930 --> 01:02:20,298 And you'd say, "I'm sorry, what?" 1046 01:02:20,432 --> 01:02:22,801 She'd either say it again more slowly, 1047 01:02:22,934 --> 01:02:24,169 so you can get it, or she would nod, 1048 01:02:24,302 --> 01:02:25,638 do this and pull out her... 1049 01:02:25,770 --> 01:02:27,105 her reporter's pad and write it down 1050 01:02:27,239 --> 01:02:28,907 like that and say, "Do you want this?" 1051 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:29,975 "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure." 1052 01:02:30,108 --> 01:02:31,810 "Let's do that then." 1053 01:02:31,943 --> 01:02:35,347 Nobody else had to work for her because of her infirmity. 1054 01:02:36,147 --> 01:02:37,482 But she had to work harder. 1055 01:02:38,551 --> 01:02:40,252 Yeah, yeah, a bit. Um... 1056 01:02:42,354 --> 01:02:43,888 [chuckles] 1057 01:02:48,694 --> 01:02:51,363 [Tom] She wanted to be on the front line. 1058 01:02:52,230 --> 01:02:56,602 She said, "I am going back to war." 1059 01:02:57,369 --> 01:03:00,405 "And nobody is going to stand in my way." 1060 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,209 [Peter] The indication from the assignments editor 1061 01:03:04,342 --> 01:03:06,478 on the international desk was to try and avoid 1062 01:03:06,612 --> 01:03:09,247 sending Margaret to situations where she 1063 01:03:09,381 --> 01:03:11,517 where she would be more at risk 1064 01:03:11,651 --> 01:03:14,352 because of the lack of medical facilities 1065 01:03:14,486 --> 01:03:15,621 or the danger. 1066 01:03:15,755 --> 01:03:17,389 I mean, if she was to get hurt again, I mean, 1067 01:03:17,523 --> 01:03:21,126 if she were hit in the face by a rock or something... 1068 01:03:22,093 --> 01:03:24,062 There were people who came to me, 1069 01:03:24,195 --> 01:03:25,698 and said "Tom, you can't let her do it. 1070 01:03:25,830 --> 01:03:27,165 You cannot let her do it. 1071 01:03:27,299 --> 01:03:29,200 You'll have blood on your hands." 1072 01:03:29,334 --> 01:03:32,070 But Margaret didn't see it quite the same way. 1073 01:03:32,638 --> 01:03:34,573 Look, I have a black bullet-proof vest. 1074 01:03:34,707 --> 01:03:35,775 [man] Cool. 1075 01:03:35,907 --> 01:03:37,909 [Peter] She was so all in. 1076 01:03:38,043 --> 01:03:39,411 [Margaret giggles] 1077 01:03:39,545 --> 01:03:41,046 [Peter] She had only one way forward, 1078 01:03:41,179 --> 01:03:42,648 and that was to walk straight back 1079 01:03:42,782 --> 01:03:44,149 into the lion's den. 1080 01:03:44,282 --> 01:03:48,920 [upbeat music playing] 1081 01:03:53,958 --> 01:03:56,995 CNN, Cyangugu, Rwanda. 1082 01:03:57,962 --> 01:04:00,633 [continual gunshots] 1083 01:04:00,766 --> 01:04:02,967 [indistinct voices] 1084 01:04:03,101 --> 01:04:04,570 Margaret liked being near... near the action. 1085 01:04:04,704 --> 01:04:06,739 So she didn't want to be in headquarters, 1086 01:04:06,871 --> 01:04:07,906 or she didn't want to be in place 1087 01:04:08,039 --> 01:04:10,075 there was a little action. 1088 01:04:19,084 --> 01:04:20,318 [explosion] 1089 01:04:27,425 --> 01:04:29,427 [Jeff] Even with her injuries, 1090 01:04:29,562 --> 01:04:32,497 she was driven by some other fuel source 1091 01:04:32,631 --> 01:04:34,432 than most people are. 1092 01:04:37,035 --> 01:04:39,270 [military siren beeps] 1093 01:04:39,739 --> 01:04:43,041 [Stefano] Margaret and the crew are in the West Bank. 1094 01:04:43,174 --> 01:04:46,077 And an IDF, Israeli Defence Force 1095 01:04:46,211 --> 01:04:47,613 armoured Jeep pulls up. 1096 01:04:47,747 --> 01:04:49,648 [metal banging] 1097 01:04:51,383 --> 01:04:54,419 The Israeli soldiers fire some kind of tear gas 1098 01:04:54,553 --> 01:04:55,987 or other grenade or something. 1099 01:04:56,121 --> 01:04:57,422 So they're aiming at 1100 01:04:57,556 --> 01:04:59,057 right at these journalists, right? 1101 01:04:59,825 --> 01:05:01,192 [gunshot] 1102 01:05:01,326 --> 01:05:03,928 Then they ram the front of CNN's Land Rover. 1103 01:05:04,062 --> 01:05:05,698 -[imitates banging] -[metal clashing] 1104 01:05:05,831 --> 01:05:08,166 [horns blaring] 1105 01:05:08,834 --> 01:05:11,369 -[loud explosion] -[woman screams] 1106 01:05:12,470 --> 01:05:14,205 [Margaret] 1107 01:05:14,339 --> 01:05:16,675 [indistinct audio over megaphone] 1108 01:05:17,576 --> 01:05:19,978 As you can hear Margaret say in that piece, she says, 1109 01:05:20,111 --> 01:05:21,446 "Who got me in the foot?" 1110 01:05:22,715 --> 01:05:24,983 Then you see a guy steps out and goes, 1111 01:05:25,116 --> 01:05:28,186 pow, he fires point blank at the glass. 1112 01:05:28,319 --> 01:05:31,322 -[glass shattering] -[honking continues] 1113 01:05:31,456 --> 01:05:33,893 She didn't do less war after she got shot. 1114 01:05:34,993 --> 01:05:36,261 She did more. 1115 01:05:38,296 --> 01:05:40,398 She doubled down on danger. 1116 01:06:00,586 --> 01:06:02,253 [Stefano] She stuck with danger. 1117 01:06:02,387 --> 01:06:04,222 She stuck with people who understood danger 1118 01:06:04,355 --> 01:06:06,559 and understood the price she had paid. 1119 01:06:08,092 --> 01:06:09,795 Dignity and defiance. 1120 01:06:10,395 --> 01:06:12,363 The ceaseless defiance of everything. 1121 01:06:12,497 --> 01:06:15,200 Even defiance against her own self-pity. 1122 01:06:21,406 --> 01:06:22,675 I think that was the way 1123 01:06:22,808 --> 01:06:25,376 for Margaret to preserve her dignity. 1124 01:06:39,925 --> 01:06:44,295 There's this one big, thorny, difficult story in the world. 1125 01:06:44,429 --> 01:06:46,164 It's kind of special. 1126 01:06:46,297 --> 01:06:49,467 And that's the story of the Arab-Israeli conflict. 1127 01:06:50,134 --> 01:06:52,070 It's a minefield of a story. 1128 01:06:53,204 --> 01:06:54,740 [man on TV] Sixteen Katyusha rockets 1129 01:06:54,874 --> 01:06:56,609 slammed into villages in northern Israel 1130 01:06:56,742 --> 01:06:59,310 as many residents were eating breakfast. 1131 01:07:00,713 --> 01:07:02,815 [speaking Hebrew] 1132 01:07:02,948 --> 01:07:05,183 Hezbollah in south Lebanon 1133 01:07:06,484 --> 01:07:08,821 had been shelling and sending Katyusha rockets 1134 01:07:08,954 --> 01:07:12,290 over into settlements in northern Israel. 1135 01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,730 And the Israelis had wanted to retaliate, 1136 01:07:19,330 --> 01:07:21,399 and they issued a warning 1137 01:07:21,534 --> 01:07:23,836 that they were gonna be attacking Shiite villages 1138 01:07:23,969 --> 01:07:26,437 where they believed Hezbollah to have its strongholds, 1139 01:07:26,572 --> 01:07:28,507 and warned that anything that moved, 1140 01:07:28,641 --> 01:07:31,109 would be considered a legitimate target. 1141 01:07:35,581 --> 01:07:37,917 About 300 to 400 thousand 1142 01:07:38,049 --> 01:07:42,487 civilians fled from the south of Lebanon, towards Beirut. 1143 01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:48,027 [man on TV] Two thunder-clapping explosions 1144 01:07:48,192 --> 01:07:52,263 had sounded across the city and then screams. 1145 01:07:52,397 --> 01:07:53,632 [people scream chaotically] 1146 01:07:57,603 --> 01:08:00,706 [Peter] CNN mobilized around 12 journalists. 1147 01:08:01,372 --> 01:08:02,908 There was also the addition of Margaret 1148 01:08:03,042 --> 01:08:06,277 and another sound tech that came in from London. 1149 01:08:07,078 --> 01:08:10,281 And we moved south along the coastal road 1150 01:08:10,415 --> 01:08:12,483 from Beirut to Tyre. 1151 01:08:12,618 --> 01:08:14,853 [man on TV] Israel is trying to stop Hezbollah 1152 01:08:14,987 --> 01:08:17,288 and journalists traveling this road. 1153 01:08:17,422 --> 01:08:19,858 Anyone moving has to make a high-speed dash. 1154 01:08:23,261 --> 01:08:28,299 [ominous music playing] 1155 01:08:30,401 --> 01:08:32,705 [Yaschinka] 1156 01:08:51,857 --> 01:08:53,726 [bombs exploding] 1157 01:08:54,627 --> 01:08:55,594 [Peter] We were the only network 1158 01:08:55,728 --> 01:08:57,696 that set up a base in Tyre. 1159 01:08:58,329 --> 01:08:59,632 [explosion] 1160 01:09:00,633 --> 01:09:04,268 On the top floor, of a 12 story apartment block, 1161 01:09:04,402 --> 01:09:06,739 and we've had a grandstand view... 1162 01:09:06,872 --> 01:09:09,908 -[jets zooming] -[bomb exploding] 1163 01:09:10,042 --> 01:09:12,511 of the Israeli air attacks. 1164 01:09:13,344 --> 01:09:15,146 [loud explosion] 1165 01:09:16,381 --> 01:09:18,383 Margaret's on the roof and she captured 1166 01:09:18,517 --> 01:09:20,653 the explosion very close by. 1167 01:09:22,121 --> 01:09:23,354 You can see the jets, 1168 01:09:23,488 --> 01:09:25,691 the F-14s and the F-16s come over 1169 01:09:25,824 --> 01:09:28,727 and quite clearly see them drop bombs. 1170 01:09:39,237 --> 01:09:40,839 [Stefano] Look, there is no way around it. 1171 01:09:40,973 --> 01:09:42,708 This was an extraordinarily dangerous place. 1172 01:09:43,976 --> 01:09:46,310 But this is where Margaret wanted to be. 1173 01:09:49,114 --> 01:09:51,850 [people talking indistinctly] 1174 01:09:53,686 --> 01:09:54,953 [Peter] One of the stories that we did 1175 01:09:55,087 --> 01:09:56,454 in the first few days 1176 01:09:56,588 --> 01:09:58,524 was to visit the United Nations troops. 1177 01:09:58,657 --> 01:10:00,693 It was mainly Fijians at the time. 1178 01:10:01,927 --> 01:10:04,563 And we visited one of their camps near Kana. 1179 01:10:05,229 --> 01:10:07,032 More or less on the front lines. 1180 01:10:07,933 --> 01:10:09,233 We went to the camp a couple of times 1181 01:10:09,367 --> 01:10:10,501 to do some interviews. 1182 01:10:10,636 --> 01:10:14,606 [indistinct chatter] 1183 01:10:15,908 --> 01:10:18,911 Some of the locals were scared of Israeli retaliation, 1184 01:10:19,044 --> 01:10:20,112 so they asked the UN, 1185 01:10:20,244 --> 01:10:21,647 "You know, can we stay here?" 1186 01:10:21,780 --> 01:10:23,281 "The Israelis aren't going to attack you, are they?" 1187 01:10:27,251 --> 01:10:29,121 Margaret was off filming 1188 01:10:29,253 --> 01:10:31,824 when she heard that there had been an attack. 1189 01:10:32,290 --> 01:10:34,059 [man over radio] Fiji battalion headquarters 1190 01:10:34,193 --> 01:10:35,894 is still under shelling. 1191 01:10:36,028 --> 01:10:38,664 Fiji battalion headquarters is still under shelling. Over. 1192 01:10:39,531 --> 01:10:41,667 [Peter] And so, she went of her own initiative, 1193 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,837 straight to Kana, back to the camp. 1194 01:10:45,403 --> 01:10:50,909 [woman screaming, crying] 1195 01:10:51,043 --> 01:10:54,613 [tense music playing] 1196 01:10:57,248 --> 01:11:00,418 [chaotic screaming] 1197 01:11:04,823 --> 01:11:07,325 [Peter] Margaret was the first television journalist 1198 01:11:07,458 --> 01:11:08,961 with a proper professional camera 1199 01:11:09,094 --> 01:11:11,530 to arrive on the scene. 1200 01:11:12,731 --> 01:11:15,366 She filmed the whole immediate aftermath. 1201 01:11:21,372 --> 01:11:23,108 And then we waited for Margaret to come back 1202 01:11:23,242 --> 01:11:24,408 with all the video. 1203 01:11:25,577 --> 01:11:29,748 And she had shot a good 30, 1204 01:11:30,649 --> 01:11:33,284 maybe more, 40 minutes. 1205 01:11:34,553 --> 01:11:36,989 We fed everything to Atlanta, 1206 01:11:37,122 --> 01:11:38,489 whole 40 minutes. 1207 01:11:38,624 --> 01:11:39,925 I'm Lou Waters. Hello. 1208 01:11:40,058 --> 01:11:41,794 Here's what's happening. It's been quite a day. 1209 01:11:41,927 --> 01:11:44,428 It was a scene that caused United Nations' peacekeepers 1210 01:11:44,563 --> 01:11:46,165 and rescue officials to weep. 1211 01:11:46,297 --> 01:11:48,767 [man on TV] It's reported that two Israeli shells 1212 01:11:48,901 --> 01:11:51,236 out of a salvo of as many as five, 1213 01:11:51,369 --> 01:11:52,671 impacted inside the base, 1214 01:11:52,805 --> 01:11:54,773 some six miles south-east of Tyre, 1215 01:11:54,907 --> 01:11:57,743 cutting down at least 200 Lebanese civilians. 1216 01:11:57,876 --> 01:11:59,578 In the words of the United Nations 1217 01:11:59,711 --> 01:12:01,613 on the ground, "It was a massacre." 1218 01:12:01,747 --> 01:12:04,049 [Peter] The impact of Margaret's footages 1219 01:12:04,183 --> 01:12:05,818 cannot be understated. 1220 01:12:05,951 --> 01:12:08,620 There could be no mistaking, but these were civilians. 1221 01:12:08,754 --> 01:12:10,789 [man on TV] Amid the human debris 1222 01:12:10,923 --> 01:12:13,091 were the bodies of women, children, 1223 01:12:13,225 --> 01:12:14,626 and at least one baby. 1224 01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,663 [melancholic music playing] 1225 01:12:17,796 --> 01:12:20,299 [Peter] The shock of that kind of image 1226 01:12:20,431 --> 01:12:22,034 just overrides any kind 1227 01:12:22,167 --> 01:12:24,468 of possible excuse or justification, 1228 01:12:24,603 --> 01:12:27,773 by those who ultimately were responsible. 1229 01:12:27,906 --> 01:12:31,375 [indistinct wailing, crying] 1230 01:12:38,349 --> 01:12:43,589 Margaret had a very intense morality about her. 1231 01:12:44,990 --> 01:12:47,759 Because what she shot went out to the world 1232 01:12:47,893 --> 01:12:50,428 and affected hundreds, thousands of people. 1233 01:12:54,132 --> 01:12:55,300 [Tom] She had the spirit. 1234 01:12:55,433 --> 01:12:56,668 She had the determination. 1235 01:12:56,802 --> 01:13:00,138 She wanted to show the world at times, 1236 01:13:00,272 --> 01:13:02,406 the brutality of war, 1237 01:13:03,642 --> 01:13:06,979 particularly the impact on the innocents. 1238 01:13:07,846 --> 01:13:10,015 The impact on the children. 1239 01:13:15,453 --> 01:13:18,290 [Susan] She was very empathetic with people. 1240 01:13:18,422 --> 01:13:19,625 She liked filming people. 1241 01:13:19,758 --> 01:13:21,727 That's the impression I have. 1242 01:13:23,494 --> 01:13:26,164 "You can't cover war, remotely. It's about people." 1243 01:13:26,298 --> 01:13:28,066 You know, that's what she would say. 1244 01:13:31,003 --> 01:13:32,638 [Stefano] A lot of the narratives about Margaret 1245 01:13:32,771 --> 01:13:34,539 are that, "You're so tough, tough, tough." 1246 01:13:35,406 --> 01:13:36,508 Tough was what she did. 1247 01:13:36,642 --> 01:13:37,643 Tough was not how she acted. 1248 01:13:37,776 --> 01:13:39,278 [On screen] "Hi, Margaret!" 1249 01:13:39,410 --> 01:13:40,646 [On screen] "Hi, Margaret!" 1250 01:13:40,779 --> 01:13:42,547 [laughs] "Hello, Margaret." 1251 01:13:42,681 --> 01:13:44,583 Hi, Margaret! 1252 01:13:46,285 --> 01:13:48,820 [Stefano] She would tell you in so many different ways 1253 01:13:48,954 --> 01:13:50,488 that she didn't care about people. 1254 01:13:50,622 --> 01:13:51,857 "People are screwed. 1255 01:13:51,990 --> 01:13:53,625 People are bad. Humanities is a mess." 1256 01:13:53,759 --> 01:13:55,560 But when it came down to it, 1257 01:13:55,694 --> 01:13:57,229 she was relating to those kids. 1258 01:13:57,996 --> 01:13:59,831 You could see she appreciated humanity. 1259 01:14:02,968 --> 01:14:05,370 [Christiane] Every interview and every picture 1260 01:14:05,503 --> 01:14:06,905 and every image 1261 01:14:07,039 --> 01:14:12,544 and every story of civilian under fire was evidence. 1262 01:14:14,112 --> 01:14:15,981 [Stefano] It certainly seems on the outside 1263 01:14:16,114 --> 01:14:18,350 that Margaret may have made, after her shooting, 1264 01:14:18,482 --> 01:14:20,052 a deal with death. 1265 01:14:20,819 --> 01:14:23,555 Could seem that way given how enthusiastically 1266 01:14:23,689 --> 01:14:26,725 she kept on with combat camera work. 1267 01:14:29,695 --> 01:14:32,431 "Okay, my love. Let's go. 1268 01:14:32,564 --> 01:14:33,699 Done it to me once." 1269 01:14:33,832 --> 01:14:35,133 That's the words she gave me. 1270 01:14:35,267 --> 01:14:36,568 "Let's keep on going." 1271 01:14:41,106 --> 01:14:43,075 [President Bill Clinton] I call upon all parties 1272 01:14:43,208 --> 01:14:46,745 to agree to an immediate cease-fire. 1273 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:49,848 [Peter] So they declared a cease-fire for, 1274 01:14:49,982 --> 01:14:52,551 I think it was 4 am, the morning of 27th of April. 1275 01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:56,888 So, on the evening of the 26th, 1276 01:14:57,022 --> 01:14:58,991 we were saying, "Okay, so, what do we do?" 1277 01:14:59,124 --> 01:15:01,393 "Go back to Beirut tomorrow?" 1278 01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,494 "Should we hang around?" 1279 01:15:06,198 --> 01:15:08,767 While we were mulling all those possibilities, 1280 01:15:08,900 --> 01:15:11,937 shortly before midnight, on the 26th, 1281 01:15:12,070 --> 01:15:14,740 four hours before the cease-fire was due, 1282 01:15:16,141 --> 01:15:19,878 we heard two distinctive whooshes... 1283 01:15:24,149 --> 01:15:25,417 very close by. 1284 01:15:26,051 --> 01:15:27,619 A rocket had been launched 1285 01:15:27,753 --> 01:15:30,188 literally from the corner of our building, 1286 01:15:30,322 --> 01:15:31,523 like Hezbollah. 1287 01:15:32,124 --> 01:15:34,726 And we said, "Okay... [chuckles] 1288 01:15:34,860 --> 01:15:36,028 we've got maybe three minutes 1289 01:15:36,161 --> 01:15:37,429 before the Israelis retaliate." 1290 01:15:37,996 --> 01:15:39,264 We're on the phone to Atlanta. 1291 01:15:39,398 --> 01:15:42,334 It was on with the Bureau and Israel saying, 1292 01:15:42,467 --> 01:15:44,269 "Oh, make sure the...." 1293 01:15:45,337 --> 01:15:47,406 Couple of the team rushed down the stairs 1294 01:15:47,539 --> 01:15:49,574 and the minutes tick by... 1295 01:15:50,175 --> 01:15:51,810 "By the way, where's Margaret?" 1296 01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:56,848 She was up on the roof, 1297 01:15:56,982 --> 01:16:00,318 with a camera, waiting to see what would happen next. 1298 01:16:04,222 --> 01:16:06,758 Waiting to film the building being blown up 1299 01:16:06,892 --> 01:16:08,293 with her on top of it. 1300 01:16:08,427 --> 01:16:12,264 [tense music intensifies] 1301 01:16:20,138 --> 01:16:23,875 [high intensity electronic static] 1302 01:16:25,944 --> 01:16:27,779 In the end, they didn't retaliate. 1303 01:16:28,548 --> 01:16:30,615 There were no strikes that day. 1304 01:16:31,950 --> 01:16:34,052 But in case, there was a retaliation, 1305 01:16:34,186 --> 01:16:37,189 she wanted to make sure that she didn't miss the shot. 1306 01:16:39,391 --> 01:16:40,759 [Joe] Margaret felt 1307 01:16:40,892 --> 01:16:43,495 if somebody was mistreating someone... 1308 01:16:44,296 --> 01:16:45,931 she would stand up against them. 1309 01:16:46,064 --> 01:16:48,100 She wasn't afraid of anyone. 1310 01:16:49,167 --> 01:16:51,736 Maybe she wasn't able to do it as a kid, 1311 01:16:51,870 --> 01:16:54,239 but definitely, as an adult, 1312 01:16:54,706 --> 01:16:56,341 she would not stay quiet. 1313 01:16:58,243 --> 01:17:02,114 [Christiane] Her pictures told the truth. 1314 01:17:03,348 --> 01:17:06,084 Our stories and Margaret's pictures 1315 01:17:06,218 --> 01:17:09,788 gradually forced our democracies 1316 01:17:09,921 --> 01:17:11,656 not to turn away. 1317 01:17:12,558 --> 01:17:13,792 In the end, 1318 01:17:13,925 --> 01:17:16,361 after a terrible massacre at Srebrenica, 1319 01:17:16,495 --> 01:17:18,763 the US-led coalition came in, 1320 01:17:19,498 --> 01:17:21,833 in about two weeks with very few casualties, 1321 01:17:21,967 --> 01:17:23,335 if any, on the Serb side. 1322 01:17:23,468 --> 01:17:25,170 They bombed the Serbian military installations 1323 01:17:25,303 --> 01:17:28,306 around the hills that were surrounding 1324 01:17:28,440 --> 01:17:31,343 the valley in which Sarajevo was located. 1325 01:17:31,476 --> 01:17:32,444 And the war stopped. 1326 01:17:32,578 --> 01:17:34,279 It was as simple as that. 1327 01:17:34,412 --> 01:17:35,447 The war stopped. 1328 01:17:35,581 --> 01:17:37,048 And I attribute that... 1329 01:17:37,182 --> 01:17:40,185 in large part, to the journalism in Bosnia 1330 01:17:40,318 --> 01:17:41,253 and to the pictures 1331 01:17:41,386 --> 01:17:43,255 that camera women like Margaret Moth 1332 01:17:43,388 --> 01:17:46,057 and all her colleagues sent out to the world. 1333 01:17:46,191 --> 01:17:48,927 Well, I think if you don't film, 1334 01:17:49,060 --> 01:17:50,862 then things just carry on. 1335 01:17:50,996 --> 01:17:53,398 I think if you do film, things can carry on. 1336 01:17:53,533 --> 01:17:54,966 They can change. 1337 01:17:56,201 --> 01:17:58,103 [Christiane] They tried to silence her, 1338 01:17:58,236 --> 01:17:59,771 but they were not able to make her 1339 01:17:59,905 --> 01:18:01,139 put down her camera. 1340 01:18:03,543 --> 01:18:05,744 Margaret didn't want to suppress any story. 1341 01:18:06,478 --> 01:18:08,680 If there was a story, she wanted to tell it. 1342 01:18:08,813 --> 01:18:09,981 You know, when they say 1343 01:18:10,115 --> 01:18:11,950 a picture is worth a thousand words, 1344 01:18:12,083 --> 01:18:15,887 Margaret's pictures were worth 100,000 words. So... 1345 01:18:16,021 --> 01:18:17,322 [camera shutter clicks] 1346 01:18:17,455 --> 01:18:18,890 [Stefano] I think what drove Margaret 1347 01:18:19,024 --> 01:18:23,028 was a real need to be who she was. 1348 01:18:23,962 --> 01:18:26,532 and not have anybody tell her who to be. 1349 01:18:26,965 --> 01:18:28,400 [camera shutter clicks] 1350 01:18:28,534 --> 01:18:31,169 Really, powerfully, a need to be just me. 1351 01:18:31,970 --> 01:18:33,305 [camera shutter clicks] 1352 01:18:33,438 --> 01:18:35,740 Relentlessly, tenaciously, defiant. 1353 01:18:48,588 --> 01:18:50,523 [laughs] 1354 01:18:50,656 --> 01:18:53,425 2009 1355 01:18:53,559 --> 01:18:57,295 The day that I contacted her after all that time 1356 01:18:57,429 --> 01:18:59,297 was I think four days 1357 01:18:59,431 --> 01:19:01,433 after she had been diagnosed with cancer, 1358 01:19:01,567 --> 01:19:03,134 with stage IV cancer. 1359 01:19:04,769 --> 01:19:07,906 [sentimental music playing] 1360 01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:10,408 You know, I felt funny, 1361 01:19:10,543 --> 01:19:13,311 felt good enough about myself, to call her. 1362 01:19:13,945 --> 01:19:15,280 And... 1363 01:19:16,649 --> 01:19:18,116 to find out she was dying. 1364 01:19:26,057 --> 01:19:28,493 So we just started hanging out again, you know. 1365 01:19:29,662 --> 01:19:31,363 Went to Mexico with Joe, 1366 01:19:31,496 --> 01:19:34,032 went to Mexico City stayed there for a little while. 1367 01:19:37,068 --> 01:19:38,937 [both laughing] 1368 01:19:39,838 --> 01:19:41,172 [Joe] She was not afraid. 1369 01:19:42,374 --> 01:19:43,408 Even at the end, 1370 01:19:44,109 --> 01:19:47,680 we drove by, I guess, a cremation place. 1371 01:19:47,812 --> 01:19:49,114 And she said, 1372 01:19:49,247 --> 01:19:50,015 "Oh, that's where I'm going to go up in smoke." 1373 01:19:50,148 --> 01:19:51,116 And I was, "What?" 1374 01:19:51,249 --> 01:19:52,585 "I'm going to go up in smoke." 1375 01:19:52,718 --> 01:19:54,019 "See, the chimney, 1376 01:19:54,152 --> 01:19:55,020 that's where I'm going to go up in smoke." 1377 01:19:57,389 --> 01:19:59,257 [Jeff] She was like a Buddha. 1378 01:20:00,325 --> 01:20:02,260 You felt better in her presence. 1379 01:20:02,827 --> 01:20:04,129 [sighs] 1380 01:20:07,832 --> 01:20:09,167 You could sit with her, 1381 01:20:09,301 --> 01:20:11,102 and you felt like when you got up, 1382 01:20:11,236 --> 01:20:13,004 [quavering] you took something away. 1383 01:20:22,213 --> 01:20:23,749 [Joe] We were friends for a long time. 1384 01:20:23,882 --> 01:20:27,085 We were friends for 25 years and... 1385 01:20:28,119 --> 01:20:30,221 and I would say soulmates. 1386 01:20:37,329 --> 01:20:39,632 Oh, I just missed calling her, you know, 1387 01:20:40,332 --> 01:20:42,367 calling her every day. 1388 01:20:43,301 --> 01:20:45,970 And how she would do anything, 1389 01:20:46,104 --> 01:20:47,540 you know, how she would... 1390 01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,511 do things and I always think about Margaret daily. 1391 01:20:59,484 --> 01:21:02,187 [Jeff] I wish I'd played certain hands differently. 1392 01:21:03,054 --> 01:21:04,824 You know, I wish I was more able 1393 01:21:04,956 --> 01:21:06,458 to be more honest with her 1394 01:21:06,592 --> 01:21:09,227 instead of just turning my back on her. 1395 01:21:10,428 --> 01:21:13,865 You know, I feel less than okay about that. 1396 01:21:15,900 --> 01:21:16,868 After she was shot, 1397 01:21:17,001 --> 01:21:19,003 she rewrote her story. 1398 01:21:20,338 --> 01:21:22,641 She went through 25 surgeries. 1399 01:21:23,609 --> 01:21:26,177 Most people would have thrown in the towel. 1400 01:21:27,379 --> 01:21:29,981 She regained that lust for life. 1401 01:21:31,416 --> 01:21:33,118 [Margaret] 1402 01:21:43,161 --> 01:21:45,631 [sombre music playing] 1403 01:21:45,765 --> 01:21:49,100 [Jeff] Participating in this documentary... 1404 01:21:51,369 --> 01:21:52,638 It brought her back to me. 1405 01:21:57,676 --> 01:21:58,910 Seeing that somebody else cared about her 1406 01:21:59,043 --> 01:22:01,279 as much as I do. 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