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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,625 --> 00:00:06,833 - Tonight, a strange discovery in the New Mexico desert 2 00:00:06,833 --> 00:00:11,125 sparks a mystery that's endured for nearly 80 years. 3 00:00:11,125 --> 00:00:12,875 - We know something crashed 4 00:00:12,875 --> 00:00:15,625 in that sheep field out in Roswell in 1947, 5 00:00:15,625 --> 00:00:18,583 but the parts of the puzzle just don't add up. 6 00:00:18,583 --> 00:00:22,542 - I-beams, silken strands of fiber optics. 7 00:00:22,542 --> 00:00:27,458 No one is able to identify this strange material. 8 00:00:27,458 --> 00:00:31,042 - This was a 200-yard swath of debris 9 00:00:31,042 --> 00:00:33,333 which, when it was all gathered up, 10 00:00:33,333 --> 00:00:36,208 only weighed five pounds. 11 00:00:36,208 --> 00:00:38,167 How is that possible? 12 00:00:38,167 --> 00:00:41,208 - The deeper researchers dig into what witnesses saw, 13 00:00:41,208 --> 00:00:43,583 the more questions are raised. 14 00:00:43,583 --> 00:00:47,500 - Were they actual aliens or human guinea pigs? 15 00:00:47,500 --> 00:00:49,958 - Whether people are skeptics or believers, 16 00:00:49,958 --> 00:00:53,167 something crashed, but the question is, what? 17 00:00:53,167 --> 00:00:55,542 - We know that there was a government coverup 18 00:00:55,542 --> 00:00:58,458 because the government admitted as such, 19 00:00:58,458 --> 00:01:02,083 but we don't even know if that's the whole story. 20 00:01:02,083 --> 00:01:05,167 - Now, we'll explore the top theories 21 00:01:05,167 --> 00:01:08,708 surrounding one of America's most infamous incidents. 22 00:01:08,708 --> 00:01:12,708 - This would possibly explain all the different elements 23 00:01:12,708 --> 00:01:14,083 of the Roswell crash. 24 00:01:14,083 --> 00:01:16,708 Some people saw bodies, some people didn't. 25 00:01:16,708 --> 00:01:20,667 - By now, there's so much speculation, we don't know, 26 00:01:20,667 --> 00:01:21,792 and we may never know. 27 00:01:23,542 --> 00:01:28,792 - What really fell out of the sky in 1947 in Roswell? 28 00:01:28,792 --> 00:01:31,125 [dramatic music] 29 00:01:43,125 --> 00:01:45,500 - [Laurence] June 14th, 1947. 30 00:01:45,500 --> 00:01:48,833 80 miles northwest of Roswell, New Mexico, 31 00:01:48,833 --> 00:01:51,167 a sheep rancher named Mac Brazel 32 00:01:51,167 --> 00:01:54,708 comes across something highly unusual. 33 00:01:54,708 --> 00:01:58,375 - He was tending to some of the sheep and 34 00:01:58,375 --> 00:02:01,750 he noticed that they wouldn't cross a particular field. 35 00:02:04,167 --> 00:02:06,625 - So he sets out and explores 36 00:02:06,625 --> 00:02:10,333 and finds this debris field in the middle of nowhere. 37 00:02:12,500 --> 00:02:15,542 It looks like something was moving at a high speed 38 00:02:15,542 --> 00:02:20,333 and crash-landed and just spread out there for 200 yards. 39 00:02:20,333 --> 00:02:23,375 - Given the remote nature of this site, 40 00:02:23,375 --> 00:02:25,667 the logical conclusion must be 41 00:02:25,667 --> 00:02:29,083 that this thing could only have come from the sky. 42 00:02:29,083 --> 00:02:30,583 - He wants to bring it in 43 00:02:30,583 --> 00:02:32,958 and turn it over to some authorities 44 00:02:32,958 --> 00:02:36,375 out of concern that it might be some form of aviation accident. 45 00:02:37,625 --> 00:02:40,250 - [Laurence] But Brazel's trip to Roswell is delayed, 46 00:02:40,250 --> 00:02:42,375 and by the time he reaches the sheriff's office 47 00:02:42,375 --> 00:02:44,583 with the crash debris, 48 00:02:44,583 --> 00:02:48,000 two other Roswell residents have also witnessed something 49 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,333 they can't explain. 50 00:02:51,292 --> 00:02:53,208 - On July 2nd, 51 00:02:53,208 --> 00:02:56,833 Dan Wilmot is sitting on his porch 52 00:02:56,833 --> 00:02:58,375 with his wife Mary Grace, 53 00:02:58,375 --> 00:03:02,792 and suddenly they see this strange object in the sky. 54 00:03:02,792 --> 00:03:08,083 It's oval shaped, it's very brightly illuminated 55 00:03:08,083 --> 00:03:11,333 as if it's got its own internal light source, 56 00:03:11,333 --> 00:03:13,667 and there's virtually no sound. 57 00:03:14,708 --> 00:03:17,667 - The object was about 10 to 20 feet in diameter. 58 00:03:17,667 --> 00:03:21,500 He thinks it was moving around 4 to 500 miles per hour. 59 00:03:21,500 --> 00:03:23,250 And they observe it for about a minute 60 00:03:23,250 --> 00:03:24,583 and then it goes away. 61 00:03:25,917 --> 00:03:28,458 - [Laurence] After Brazel delivers the material, 62 00:03:28,458 --> 00:03:30,333 the concerned sheriff immediately calls 63 00:03:30,333 --> 00:03:32,875 the nearby Army airfield. 64 00:03:32,875 --> 00:03:37,333 - The Roswell crash took place against the backdrop 65 00:03:37,333 --> 00:03:40,292 of the modern flying saucer phenomenon. 66 00:03:43,125 --> 00:03:46,958 This all started on June 24th, 1947, 67 00:03:46,958 --> 00:03:49,000 with Kenneth Arnold, 68 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,833 a pilot flying light aircraft. 69 00:03:51,833 --> 00:03:56,750 - He claims that he has seen nine disc-shaped aircraft 70 00:03:56,750 --> 00:03:59,500 flying in formation near Mount Rainier 71 00:03:59,500 --> 00:04:01,958 flying at 1,200 miles an hour, 72 00:04:01,958 --> 00:04:06,625 which is three times as fast as the fastest aircraft. 73 00:04:06,625 --> 00:04:09,417 And the media really takes this up. 74 00:04:09,417 --> 00:04:11,542 - [Laurence] Newspapers quickly dub the objects 75 00:04:11,542 --> 00:04:13,875 "flying discs," or "flying saucers." 76 00:04:15,375 --> 00:04:18,167 - After his report becomes publicized, 77 00:04:18,167 --> 00:04:21,750 it inspires other people to purport 78 00:04:21,750 --> 00:04:25,208 that they have also seen bizarre phenomena in the skies, 79 00:04:25,208 --> 00:04:28,542 and we are in the midst of flying saucer fever. 80 00:04:28,542 --> 00:04:33,208 - In that period between June and July 1947, 81 00:04:33,208 --> 00:04:35,333 there are hundreds of people 82 00:04:35,333 --> 00:04:38,542 who report seeing flying saucers in the sky. 83 00:04:38,542 --> 00:04:41,333 - Banner headlines, day after day, 84 00:04:41,333 --> 00:04:44,625 through every news source around the country. 85 00:04:44,625 --> 00:04:47,125 What are these flying saucers? 86 00:04:47,125 --> 00:04:49,125 Where are they from? 87 00:04:49,125 --> 00:04:54,375 But what Brazel discovered is an altogether different story. 88 00:04:54,375 --> 00:04:58,000 It's nothing fleeting in the nighttime sky. 89 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,333 It's something recovered. 90 00:05:00,333 --> 00:05:02,250 It's something that had crashed. 91 00:05:03,208 --> 00:05:05,542 - It escalates the whole situation 92 00:05:05,542 --> 00:05:07,833 to a completely different level. 93 00:05:07,833 --> 00:05:11,708 The Army takes this extremely seriously 94 00:05:11,708 --> 00:05:15,625 and they actually send one of their brightest and best, 95 00:05:15,625 --> 00:05:19,792 the base intelligence officer Jesse Marcel, 96 00:05:19,792 --> 00:05:20,958 out to investigate. 97 00:05:22,625 --> 00:05:24,708 They know that whatever it is, 98 00:05:24,708 --> 00:05:28,667 it's not a US military aircraft crash. 99 00:05:29,625 --> 00:05:31,375 So now the situation is this. 100 00:05:31,375 --> 00:05:35,292 If it's not the US military, who or what is it? 101 00:05:36,333 --> 00:05:38,875 - [Laurence] On July 8th, 1947, 102 00:05:38,875 --> 00:05:42,542 the Roswell Army Airfield puts out a press release 103 00:05:42,542 --> 00:05:46,792 saying that they have found pieces of a flying saucer. 104 00:05:46,792 --> 00:05:49,875 - We've had two weeks of flying saucer fever 105 00:05:49,875 --> 00:05:52,708 and now the US military have one of these things. 106 00:05:52,708 --> 00:05:55,667 The press release goes out and it's near hysteria. 107 00:05:55,667 --> 00:05:58,500 - The public takes it a lot seriously 108 00:05:58,500 --> 00:06:01,625 than could have possibly been expected. 109 00:06:01,625 --> 00:06:02,875 - [Laurence] Later that day, 110 00:06:02,875 --> 00:06:05,958 Major Marcel flies the debris to Texas 111 00:06:05,958 --> 00:06:07,542 for further examination. 112 00:06:09,542 --> 00:06:11,375 - They arrive in Fort Worth. 113 00:06:11,375 --> 00:06:13,458 General Roger Ramey, 114 00:06:13,458 --> 00:06:16,750 head of the Eighth Air Force at Carswell Army Airfield, 115 00:06:17,667 --> 00:06:19,625 wants to have a press conference. 116 00:06:20,542 --> 00:06:23,542 - Then, something really weird happens. 117 00:06:23,542 --> 00:06:26,833 Within 24 hours of telling the world 118 00:06:26,833 --> 00:06:30,125 that the US military has recovered a flying saucer, 119 00:06:30,125 --> 00:06:31,375 they flip the narrative. 120 00:06:31,375 --> 00:06:33,667 [tense music] 121 00:06:35,458 --> 00:06:39,750 - General Ramey announces to the press 122 00:06:39,750 --> 00:06:43,208 it was all a mistake, it was all a overreaction. 123 00:06:43,208 --> 00:06:47,250 It's nothing more than a very standard weather balloon 124 00:06:47,250 --> 00:06:48,750 with a radar reflector kite. 125 00:06:50,458 --> 00:06:53,042 - To help alleviate concerns from the public, 126 00:06:53,042 --> 00:06:56,792 they release a photo with Major Marcel posing 127 00:06:56,792 --> 00:07:00,375 with what is said to be debris from this weather balloon. 128 00:07:00,375 --> 00:07:04,667 - The cover story was totally believed. 129 00:07:04,667 --> 00:07:08,750 Roswell just disappears from the narrative for 30 years. 130 00:07:10,208 --> 00:07:13,000 - [Laurence] All is quiet until 1978, 131 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,458 when Major Jesse Marcel opens the floodgates 132 00:07:16,458 --> 00:07:18,958 on Roswell witness statements. 133 00:07:18,958 --> 00:07:22,917 - Marcel is 71 years old, he's retired from the military, 134 00:07:22,917 --> 00:07:26,542 but after 30 years, he finally decides 135 00:07:26,542 --> 00:07:28,500 that it's time to go public 136 00:07:28,500 --> 00:07:30,542 with the secret that he's been hanging onto 137 00:07:30,542 --> 00:07:32,458 for all this time. 138 00:07:32,458 --> 00:07:34,875 - Jesse Marcel does an interview 139 00:07:34,875 --> 00:07:37,500 with astronomer Stanton Friedman, 140 00:07:37,500 --> 00:07:40,708 during which he confesses that he was told 141 00:07:40,708 --> 00:07:44,875 to stick to the story that this is a weather balloon 142 00:07:44,875 --> 00:07:46,958 and nothing else. 143 00:07:46,958 --> 00:07:50,250 - Marcel claims those were not actually all of the materials 144 00:07:50,250 --> 00:07:53,125 that he had recovered from the site near Roswell. 145 00:07:53,125 --> 00:07:57,375 There's much more debris that's not in the photos. 146 00:07:57,375 --> 00:07:59,875 And he describes the material that he found 147 00:07:59,875 --> 00:08:02,042 as being not of this Earth. 148 00:08:02,042 --> 00:08:04,125 [tense music] 149 00:08:06,375 --> 00:08:10,708 - There are silken strands like microfilament fishing line. 150 00:08:10,708 --> 00:08:15,125 There are I-beam structures of a pinkish-purplish hue 151 00:08:15,125 --> 00:08:20,125 with strange symbols that run the length of each piece. 152 00:08:20,125 --> 00:08:25,375 And then Marcel describes the most amazing material of all. 153 00:08:25,375 --> 00:08:28,833 Paper-thin, metal-like material, 154 00:08:28,833 --> 00:08:31,208 practically weightless in your hands. 155 00:08:31,208 --> 00:08:34,417 This material you can crush, 156 00:08:34,417 --> 00:08:38,083 you can fold, you can crease, 157 00:08:38,083 --> 00:08:39,542 and each and every time, 158 00:08:39,542 --> 00:08:43,000 it assumes its original shape and size. 159 00:08:43,958 --> 00:08:48,542 - Today, we call this type of alloy a shape memory alloy. 160 00:08:48,542 --> 00:08:51,375 Shape memory alloys weren't widely manufactured 161 00:08:51,375 --> 00:08:52,750 until the 1960s, though, 162 00:08:52,750 --> 00:08:55,667 and the crash was in 1947. 163 00:08:55,667 --> 00:08:59,375 - It's easy to see why people would believe Marcel. 164 00:08:59,375 --> 00:09:01,083 He's a credible source, 165 00:09:01,083 --> 00:09:03,250 he's a former intelligence officer, 166 00:09:03,250 --> 00:09:04,625 and he is now saying 167 00:09:04,625 --> 00:09:07,125 that what the government said is not true. 168 00:09:07,125 --> 00:09:09,958 And this really is the beginning of this idea 169 00:09:09,958 --> 00:09:13,750 that there really might be a massive government coverup. 170 00:09:17,667 --> 00:09:19,542 - [Laurence] After speaking with Marcel, 171 00:09:19,542 --> 00:09:20,750 Friedman begins collecting 172 00:09:20,750 --> 00:09:23,125 dozens of other witness accounts from Roswell 173 00:09:23,125 --> 00:09:25,042 that describe a second crash 174 00:09:25,042 --> 00:09:28,250 and a massive coverup of who was in it. 175 00:09:29,583 --> 00:09:31,333 - It's one thing to hear Jesse Marcel say 176 00:09:31,333 --> 00:09:33,167 that it wasn't a weather balloon 177 00:09:33,167 --> 00:09:37,625 and that whatever fell out of the sky came from outer space. 178 00:09:37,625 --> 00:09:39,542 But these are witnesses 179 00:09:39,542 --> 00:09:42,458 who are claiming to have seen something 180 00:09:42,458 --> 00:09:44,500 that wasn't even human. 181 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:48,750 - The same day that Jesse Marcel came back 182 00:09:48,750 --> 00:09:51,417 with the debris from the ranch, 183 00:09:51,417 --> 00:09:54,125 a local mortician, Glenn Dennis, 184 00:09:54,125 --> 00:09:58,667 also gets drawn into a very weird part of the story 185 00:09:58,667 --> 00:10:01,375 because as well as being a mortician, 186 00:10:01,375 --> 00:10:04,333 he sometimes drives an ambulance. 187 00:10:04,333 --> 00:10:08,875 - He was delivering an injured person to the airfield 188 00:10:08,875 --> 00:10:12,208 when he witnesses the arrival of these materials 189 00:10:12,208 --> 00:10:14,750 and he also sees this beam 190 00:10:14,750 --> 00:10:17,708 with purple and pink hieroglyphic writing on it. 191 00:10:18,625 --> 00:10:20,458 - And he says, because of his work 192 00:10:20,458 --> 00:10:23,083 in the local funeral home, he is asked, 193 00:10:23,083 --> 00:10:29,042 "Do you have a number of child-sized caskets?" 194 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,708 And of course, he's horrified. 195 00:10:32,958 --> 00:10:37,333 And only later do people start to put this together 196 00:10:37,333 --> 00:10:38,542 and say, "Well, wait a minute. 197 00:10:38,542 --> 00:10:43,250 Maybe it wasn't dead kids, but dead aliens." 198 00:10:44,375 --> 00:10:46,750 [tense music] 199 00:10:50,833 --> 00:10:52,792 - One of the witnesses who comes forward 200 00:10:52,792 --> 00:10:54,542 all these 40 years later 201 00:10:54,542 --> 00:10:56,792 has some details and evidence 202 00:10:56,792 --> 00:11:00,000 of a second crash site near Roswell. 203 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,542 - A crew chief with the Roswell Fire Department, 204 00:11:02,542 --> 00:11:04,875 named Dan Dwyer, comes forward 205 00:11:04,875 --> 00:11:07,375 and he wants to talk about the crash 206 00:11:07,375 --> 00:11:10,208 that he'd heard about on the plains of San Augustin. 207 00:11:10,208 --> 00:11:12,542 He says that he and another fireman go to the site, 208 00:11:12,542 --> 00:11:14,917 but when they get there, they find 209 00:11:14,917 --> 00:11:19,292 that there's a government recovery effort taking place. 210 00:11:19,292 --> 00:11:22,042 Well, if this is just a regular crash, 211 00:11:22,042 --> 00:11:24,042 why is the government involved? 212 00:11:24,042 --> 00:11:26,208 - Dwyer claims to have witnessed 213 00:11:26,208 --> 00:11:28,958 essentially the collection of alien bodies. 214 00:11:28,958 --> 00:11:31,292 He says there were two of them on stretchers 215 00:11:31,292 --> 00:11:33,042 inside mortuary bags 216 00:11:33,042 --> 00:11:35,708 and a third one that appeared to be severely injured. 217 00:11:35,708 --> 00:11:37,750 - Dwyer is not the only person 218 00:11:37,750 --> 00:11:41,875 who reports bodies at this crash site. 219 00:11:41,875 --> 00:11:45,042 An Air Force sergeant named Melvin Brown 220 00:11:45,042 --> 00:11:48,250 claims that he was sent there to guard the crash site. 221 00:11:48,250 --> 00:11:52,375 While he's there, he claims that he sees two alien bodies. 222 00:11:52,375 --> 00:11:56,833 - Dennis, Dwyer, and Brown aren't the only ones. 223 00:11:56,833 --> 00:11:58,875 There are many more witnesses 224 00:11:58,875 --> 00:12:00,375 who are claiming they saw something. 225 00:12:00,375 --> 00:12:04,333 Now, whether it's debris or bodies or lights in the sky, 226 00:12:04,333 --> 00:12:07,458 whatever crashed in Roswell that night 227 00:12:07,458 --> 00:12:09,000 led to people insisting 228 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,083 that they saw something extremely unusual. 229 00:12:12,083 --> 00:12:13,542 - When you take into account 230 00:12:13,542 --> 00:12:16,042 all of these eyewitness testimonies 231 00:12:16,042 --> 00:12:19,375 and people seeing these strange things, 232 00:12:19,375 --> 00:12:25,292 it's easy to see why this flying saucer theory might endure. 233 00:12:26,250 --> 00:12:28,042 - We may never know what happened, 234 00:12:28,042 --> 00:12:30,917 but we have credible witnesses who have seen things 235 00:12:30,917 --> 00:12:32,958 that are difficult to explain 236 00:12:32,958 --> 00:12:36,875 and make it hard for the theory of the weather balloon 237 00:12:36,875 --> 00:12:38,458 to really hold up. 238 00:12:43,875 --> 00:12:45,833 - [Laurence] Despite a flurry of additional 239 00:12:45,833 --> 00:12:49,208 eyewitness accounts in the 1970s and '80s 240 00:12:49,208 --> 00:12:53,083 detailing new theories on what really happened at Roswell, 241 00:12:53,083 --> 00:12:55,083 the Air Force consistently maintains 242 00:12:55,083 --> 00:12:59,125 that what crashed was only a weather balloon. 243 00:12:59,125 --> 00:13:00,917 - Part of the reason they stick with that story 244 00:13:00,917 --> 00:13:02,500 is the story's working fine. 245 00:13:02,500 --> 00:13:06,250 - With the exception of arguably a niche community, 246 00:13:06,250 --> 00:13:08,833 there's been no one really challenging 247 00:13:08,833 --> 00:13:10,625 the official narrative. 248 00:13:10,625 --> 00:13:12,375 - Finally, in 1993, 249 00:13:12,375 --> 00:13:15,125 a congressman from New Mexico, Steven Schiff, 250 00:13:15,125 --> 00:13:17,042 starts to pressure the federal government 251 00:13:17,042 --> 00:13:18,375 to release more information. 252 00:13:19,708 --> 00:13:22,375 - [Laurence] In 1995, the government releases 253 00:13:22,375 --> 00:13:26,250 "The Roswell Report: Fact vs Fiction." 254 00:13:26,250 --> 00:13:29,083 It includes a shocking new revelation. 255 00:13:29,083 --> 00:13:31,042 What crashed actually belonged 256 00:13:31,042 --> 00:13:35,333 to a classified military program called Project Mogul. 257 00:13:35,333 --> 00:13:36,792 - The Air Force said, 258 00:13:36,792 --> 00:13:39,042 "We were keeping a secret from people, 259 00:13:39,042 --> 00:13:42,375 but the secret we were keeping wasn't aliens. 260 00:13:42,375 --> 00:13:46,458 It was a spy program, highly classified." 261 00:13:47,542 --> 00:13:49,792 [tense music] 262 00:13:51,833 --> 00:13:55,958 - In 1947, the United States is the only nuclear power on Earth. 263 00:13:55,958 --> 00:13:58,833 It's very clear to the Americans, though, 264 00:13:58,833 --> 00:14:00,708 that the Soviets desperately want 265 00:14:00,708 --> 00:14:02,500 to develop their own atomic weapon, 266 00:14:02,500 --> 00:14:05,125 but we don't have a good way of knowing 267 00:14:05,125 --> 00:14:09,083 how well the Soviets are doing in that pursuit. 268 00:14:09,083 --> 00:14:11,917 - Project Mogul is spearheaded by Maurice Ewing, 269 00:14:11,917 --> 00:14:14,042 a US geophysicist, 270 00:14:14,042 --> 00:14:18,583 and is basically this operation by the US government 271 00:14:18,583 --> 00:14:20,875 to develop spy balloons 272 00:14:20,875 --> 00:14:24,375 to sense the detonations of atomic weaponry 273 00:14:24,375 --> 00:14:27,542 all the way around the globe by the Soviet Union. 274 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,083 - The idea is to put microphones on weather balloons, 275 00:14:32,083 --> 00:14:33,833 send 'em to this high altitude, 276 00:14:33,833 --> 00:14:37,167 so if a particular nuclear blast goes off 277 00:14:37,167 --> 00:14:40,000 and three of these microphones receive that signal, 278 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,042 they can triangulate back to its original source. 279 00:14:43,042 --> 00:14:45,958 - This is what makes a high-altitude balloon 280 00:14:45,958 --> 00:14:48,292 such an effective tool here 281 00:14:48,292 --> 00:14:51,417 because it can float, remain steady, 282 00:14:51,417 --> 00:14:55,000 and be in the air for a really long time. 283 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,333 - Some of these weather balloons 284 00:14:56,333 --> 00:14:58,917 associated with Project Mogul are enormous. 285 00:14:58,917 --> 00:15:02,542 They're 400 to 500 feet in diameter. 286 00:15:02,542 --> 00:15:04,833 They're built to hover in place 287 00:15:04,833 --> 00:15:08,833 and they fly at 100,000 to 200,000 feet. 288 00:15:09,833 --> 00:15:13,542 - They have to be able to carry 500 pounds worth of equipment, 289 00:15:13,542 --> 00:15:16,625 they have to be both lightweight and really strong, 290 00:15:16,625 --> 00:15:18,125 so they need to be made 291 00:15:18,125 --> 00:15:21,917 of really, really advanced composite materials. 292 00:15:21,917 --> 00:15:24,000 They also have metallic substances 293 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,333 that are very light reflective, 294 00:15:25,333 --> 00:15:27,375 so they might appear to glow. 295 00:15:27,375 --> 00:15:30,083 - Based on the shape, the dimension, 296 00:15:30,083 --> 00:15:34,250 and the behavior of the Project Mogul balloons, 297 00:15:34,250 --> 00:15:37,000 you can see why somebody might conclude 298 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,875 that these objects are flying saucers. 299 00:15:39,875 --> 00:15:43,083 - [Laurence] Between 1947 and 1949, 300 00:15:43,083 --> 00:15:44,958 Project Mogul conducts a total 301 00:15:44,958 --> 00:15:48,875 of 110 top secret research flights. 302 00:15:48,875 --> 00:15:50,750 - Most of these tests are happening 303 00:15:50,750 --> 00:15:52,292 initially on the East Coast, 304 00:15:52,292 --> 00:15:54,875 but there's too much commercial traffic, 305 00:15:54,875 --> 00:15:58,042 so they decide to launch these balloons instead 306 00:15:58,042 --> 00:16:02,125 from Alamogordo Airbase in the Tularosa Basin 307 00:16:02,125 --> 00:16:04,542 in Southern New Mexico. 308 00:16:04,542 --> 00:16:08,417 - According to declassified documents about Project Mogul, 309 00:16:08,417 --> 00:16:12,125 the first flight launched from Alamogordo 310 00:16:12,125 --> 00:16:14,583 goes as far as Arabela, New Mexico. 311 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,875 - Supposedly, on June 4th, 1947, 312 00:16:19,875 --> 00:16:22,042 it came smashing down to Earth 313 00:16:22,042 --> 00:16:24,917 with all of its radar reflection materials 314 00:16:24,917 --> 00:16:26,083 and other sensors. 315 00:16:26,083 --> 00:16:28,208 - Looking back at the old photos, 316 00:16:28,208 --> 00:16:30,708 we see what looks like radar reflectors, 317 00:16:30,708 --> 00:16:33,875 we see what looks like shredded polyethylene plastics. 318 00:16:33,875 --> 00:16:36,042 The average person in 1947 319 00:16:36,042 --> 00:16:37,792 wouldn't know anything about that. 320 00:16:37,792 --> 00:16:39,875 - It doesn't really look like parts 321 00:16:39,875 --> 00:16:42,125 of a terrestrial aircraft, 322 00:16:42,125 --> 00:16:44,167 and so they're fairly certain of what it's not, 323 00:16:44,167 --> 00:16:45,875 but that doesn't mean that they actually recognize 324 00:16:45,875 --> 00:16:47,333 what it is. 325 00:16:47,333 --> 00:16:51,208 - Even the highly-trained people like Jesse Marcel 326 00:16:51,208 --> 00:16:54,875 wouldn't recognize all of this material, 327 00:16:54,875 --> 00:16:56,375 so they'd be saying, "Yeah, look, 328 00:16:56,375 --> 00:17:00,583 I know what a weather balloon looks like and this ain't it." 329 00:17:00,583 --> 00:17:03,167 - [Laurence] The report also has an explanation 330 00:17:03,167 --> 00:17:06,917 for the purple hieroglyphics described by witnesses. 331 00:17:06,917 --> 00:17:08,583 - The engineers that cobbled together 332 00:17:08,583 --> 00:17:11,167 some of the early balloons for Project Mogul 333 00:17:11,167 --> 00:17:13,583 had to use whatever materials they had available. 334 00:17:13,583 --> 00:17:16,417 - Despite this being a highly-classified program, 335 00:17:16,417 --> 00:17:19,167 this was still the post-war period, 336 00:17:19,167 --> 00:17:20,708 there were some shortages, 337 00:17:20,708 --> 00:17:24,208 occasionally even the military had to just make do, 338 00:17:24,208 --> 00:17:25,958 and apparently they used 339 00:17:25,958 --> 00:17:29,792 some commercially available adhesive tape. 340 00:17:29,792 --> 00:17:31,167 - The tape that they're using 341 00:17:31,167 --> 00:17:34,167 is actually just some leftovers that were unsold 342 00:17:34,167 --> 00:17:36,042 from a children's toy company. 343 00:17:36,042 --> 00:17:38,500 It's designed to attract a child's attention. 344 00:17:38,500 --> 00:17:42,917 It's just covered with colorful shapes and pink and purple. 345 00:17:42,917 --> 00:17:47,042 - This tape is what the government explains 346 00:17:47,042 --> 00:17:49,833 as the source of those eyewitness reports 347 00:17:49,833 --> 00:17:53,417 of the purple and pink hieroglyphics on the metal beam. 348 00:17:54,417 --> 00:17:58,208 - [Laurence] By 1949, two years after Roswell, 349 00:17:58,208 --> 00:18:01,708 Project Mogul is completely shut down. 350 00:18:01,708 --> 00:18:02,667 - For a number of reasons, 351 00:18:02,667 --> 00:18:07,458 Project Mogul was terminated in 1949. 352 00:18:07,458 --> 00:18:10,708 Cost, security, practical concerns, 353 00:18:10,708 --> 00:18:14,375 the most obvious of which was that by that time, 354 00:18:14,375 --> 00:18:17,833 the Soviets had detonated their own bomb. 355 00:18:17,833 --> 00:18:20,250 - So we know they have it 356 00:18:20,250 --> 00:18:23,458 and there is no longer any need to listen for it. 357 00:18:23,458 --> 00:18:26,292 - Despite the declassification of these documents, 358 00:18:26,292 --> 00:18:29,875 rumors persist that the government 359 00:18:29,875 --> 00:18:32,250 is not being entirely transparent. 360 00:18:32,250 --> 00:18:34,542 - The government's explanation of Project Mogul 361 00:18:34,542 --> 00:18:36,917 seems to make sense and it seems to be consistent 362 00:18:36,917 --> 00:18:38,292 with what people saw, 363 00:18:38,292 --> 00:18:39,792 except that there's all these witnesses 364 00:18:39,792 --> 00:18:42,250 who claim that they saw bodies. 365 00:18:42,250 --> 00:18:45,417 There's nothing in Project Mogul that included bodies. 366 00:18:45,417 --> 00:18:46,667 So what is the story there? 367 00:18:50,875 --> 00:18:52,208 - [Laurence] In the 1990s, 368 00:18:52,208 --> 00:18:54,000 five decades after the Roswell crash 369 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,792 first made headlines in 1947, 370 00:18:56,792 --> 00:19:01,208 the public's demand for answers reaches a fever pitch. 371 00:19:01,208 --> 00:19:05,208 - By the 1990s, Americans have been through Watergate, 372 00:19:05,208 --> 00:19:08,167 Iran-Contra and the Vietnam War, 373 00:19:08,167 --> 00:19:11,167 and Americans realize that the federal government 374 00:19:11,167 --> 00:19:14,042 and particularly the US military, 375 00:19:14,042 --> 00:19:16,542 is keeping a lot of secrets. 376 00:19:16,542 --> 00:19:19,792 - And it makes sense that the Project Mogul disclosure 377 00:19:19,792 --> 00:19:20,792 by the US government 378 00:19:20,792 --> 00:19:22,750 is met with some skepticism, 379 00:19:22,750 --> 00:19:27,958 because UFOs, alien abductions, visits from another planet, 380 00:19:27,958 --> 00:19:29,792 this was all in the zeitgeist 381 00:19:29,792 --> 00:19:33,333 and it was reflected by the movies and TV shows 382 00:19:33,333 --> 00:19:35,083 that we were watching. 383 00:19:35,083 --> 00:19:37,542 We've got "Star Wars," "Independence Day," 384 00:19:37,542 --> 00:19:39,542 and "Close Encounters of the Third Kind." 385 00:19:39,542 --> 00:19:42,292 Aliens were at the top of people's minds. 386 00:19:42,292 --> 00:19:45,708 - And a lot of Americans still genuinely believe 387 00:19:45,708 --> 00:19:51,083 that aliens landed in Roswell, New Mexico, in 1947. 388 00:19:51,083 --> 00:19:53,250 - It hasn't gone away. 389 00:19:53,250 --> 00:19:57,667 Roswell continues to grow in relevance 390 00:19:57,667 --> 00:20:01,625 and there's more and more talk about the bodies. 391 00:20:01,625 --> 00:20:07,208 The Pentagon is compelled to come up with an explanation 392 00:20:07,208 --> 00:20:11,208 because balloons don't have pilots. 393 00:20:12,375 --> 00:20:13,875 - [Laurence] Two years after the report 394 00:20:13,875 --> 00:20:15,375 revealing Project Mogul, 395 00:20:15,375 --> 00:20:18,833 the government offers a new explanation. 396 00:20:18,833 --> 00:20:23,375 - In 1997, the Air Force puts out its second study 397 00:20:23,375 --> 00:20:27,375 called "The Roswell Report: Case Closed." 398 00:20:27,375 --> 00:20:32,500 - 1997 is the 50th anniversary of the Roswell incident 399 00:20:32,500 --> 00:20:37,083 and of course, the Pentagon has to go and spoil the party. 400 00:20:37,083 --> 00:20:39,708 First they double down on Project Mogul, 401 00:20:39,708 --> 00:20:42,208 but then they address the issue of the bodies 402 00:20:42,208 --> 00:20:44,833 and they say it's all due 403 00:20:44,833 --> 00:20:48,750 to a program called Project High Dive. 404 00:20:48,750 --> 00:20:53,292 - After World War II, plane technology revolutionized 405 00:20:53,292 --> 00:20:55,292 and they began flying faster and higher 406 00:20:55,292 --> 00:20:57,125 than anyone had ever thought possible, 407 00:20:57,125 --> 00:20:58,958 and the Air Force wondered, 408 00:20:58,958 --> 00:21:03,167 if our pilots have to eject at this very high altitude, 409 00:21:03,167 --> 00:21:05,458 could they survive a landing? 410 00:21:05,458 --> 00:21:09,542 - So hundreds of mannequins are deployed from the atmosphere 411 00:21:09,542 --> 00:21:13,042 and studied as they tumble back towards Earth. 412 00:21:13,042 --> 00:21:15,250 [tense music] 413 00:21:18,208 --> 00:21:23,667 - There are at least 67 of these High Dive mannequin drops 414 00:21:23,667 --> 00:21:26,833 in the Eastern New Mexico area. 415 00:21:26,833 --> 00:21:29,708 - Some of 'em begin to spin at very high rates 416 00:21:29,708 --> 00:21:31,667 and that sends them off course 417 00:21:31,667 --> 00:21:34,792 and some of them actually land in civilian areas. 418 00:21:34,792 --> 00:21:37,958 - The Air Force concludes the most likely explanation 419 00:21:37,958 --> 00:21:41,125 for people claiming to have seen dead alien bodies 420 00:21:41,125 --> 00:21:43,792 was that it's possible that they actually had come across 421 00:21:43,792 --> 00:21:47,042 the aftermath of a high altitude situation 422 00:21:47,042 --> 00:21:48,542 where something went wrong 423 00:21:48,542 --> 00:21:51,833 and the experiment came plunging back to Earth. 424 00:21:51,833 --> 00:21:53,375 - So, Project High Dive 425 00:21:53,375 --> 00:21:55,708 regularly sent scientists and soldiers 426 00:21:55,708 --> 00:21:57,583 to recover these mannequins 427 00:21:57,583 --> 00:21:59,333 regardless of where they fell, 428 00:21:59,333 --> 00:22:00,625 even in the most remote places. 429 00:22:00,625 --> 00:22:02,750 So the people that are coming forward 430 00:22:02,750 --> 00:22:06,375 and claiming to have witnessed soldiers with alien bodies 431 00:22:06,375 --> 00:22:08,208 might in fact have just simply seen 432 00:22:08,208 --> 00:22:10,208 one of these recovery efforts. 433 00:22:10,208 --> 00:22:11,542 - Given the velocity 434 00:22:11,542 --> 00:22:13,792 with which these mannequins hit the ground, 435 00:22:13,792 --> 00:22:18,000 you can see why witnesses might have understood them 436 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,542 to be small alien bodies, 437 00:22:20,542 --> 00:22:25,000 because they likely shattered and were mangled upon impact. 438 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,167 - [Laurence] Though this theory provides one explanation, 439 00:22:28,167 --> 00:22:30,750 it raises new questions. 440 00:22:30,750 --> 00:22:33,167 - At the press conference in which the Air Force 441 00:22:33,167 --> 00:22:36,042 is unveiling this report, 442 00:22:36,042 --> 00:22:40,958 the media points out that the report explicitly says 443 00:22:40,958 --> 00:22:44,833 that Project High Dive occurred in the 1950s 444 00:22:44,833 --> 00:22:47,292 while the Roswell events happened 445 00:22:47,292 --> 00:22:50,458 a couple years before that, in 1947. 446 00:22:50,458 --> 00:22:52,542 - Faced with this apparent contradiction, 447 00:22:52,542 --> 00:22:55,000 the Air Force presents an idea 448 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,792 that it's basically in the heads of the witnesses. 449 00:22:57,792 --> 00:23:00,625 They put forward what is known as time compression. 450 00:23:00,625 --> 00:23:02,042 - Time compression is 451 00:23:02,042 --> 00:23:04,708 when people are remembering important events 452 00:23:04,708 --> 00:23:07,208 at a distance of many decades. 453 00:23:07,208 --> 00:23:10,250 They may conflate two important events 454 00:23:10,250 --> 00:23:14,250 and remember them as though they happened at the same time. 455 00:23:14,250 --> 00:23:16,708 However, it seems unusual 456 00:23:16,708 --> 00:23:19,250 that people would've compressed together 457 00:23:19,250 --> 00:23:22,583 memories of such import. 458 00:23:22,583 --> 00:23:24,292 It's possible, it's possible, 459 00:23:24,292 --> 00:23:26,875 but it also kind of strains credibility. 460 00:23:26,875 --> 00:23:29,708 - And that caused a lot of UFO researchers 461 00:23:29,708 --> 00:23:31,500 to be absolutely convinced 462 00:23:31,500 --> 00:23:33,667 this was just another government coverup. 463 00:23:34,750 --> 00:23:37,208 - Despite what the Air Force is saying, 464 00:23:37,208 --> 00:23:40,750 many of these Roswell witnesses stand by their memories. 465 00:23:40,750 --> 00:23:44,750 So if we believe that they saw actual bodies, 466 00:23:44,750 --> 00:23:46,542 where did they come from? 467 00:23:46,542 --> 00:23:49,458 - It may be that there is a darker explanation 468 00:23:49,458 --> 00:23:51,375 connected to some of the phenomena 469 00:23:51,375 --> 00:23:53,375 associated with Roswell. 470 00:23:53,375 --> 00:23:55,042 There's still questions that remain unanswered. 471 00:23:59,333 --> 00:23:59,833 - By the end of the 1990s, 472 00:24:00,542 --> 00:24:02,042 the United States military had admitted 473 00:24:02,042 --> 00:24:05,083 that its initial statement about the Roswell crash 474 00:24:05,083 --> 00:24:07,625 was intentionally misleading, 475 00:24:07,625 --> 00:24:10,500 and has offered two very different explanations 476 00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:14,708 for what witnesses claim they saw in 1947. 477 00:24:14,708 --> 00:24:18,208 But in 2000, a Polish journalist's research uncovers 478 00:24:18,208 --> 00:24:18,542 But in 2000, a Polish journalist's research uncovers 479 00:24:19,208 --> 00:24:20,583 a shocking new possibility 480 00:24:20,583 --> 00:24:24,125 for what actually fell out of the sky in Roswell. 481 00:24:25,417 --> 00:24:27,458 - We still haven't got all the answers. 482 00:24:27,458 --> 00:24:28,958 It's still a mystery. 483 00:24:28,958 --> 00:24:32,708 But now there's a new theory which suggests 484 00:24:32,708 --> 00:24:36,292 that the reason the government is covering all this up 485 00:24:36,292 --> 00:24:40,250 is because it involves Nazi technology. 486 00:24:40,250 --> 00:24:42,042 - There are a lot of people that are convinced 487 00:24:42,042 --> 00:24:45,167 that what was actually witnessed in the American Southwest 488 00:24:45,167 --> 00:24:48,417 were secret Nazi programs. 489 00:24:48,417 --> 00:24:52,542 - People forget that in many areas, 490 00:24:52,542 --> 00:24:56,375 Nazi technology was actually much more advanced 491 00:24:56,375 --> 00:24:58,750 than Allied technology. 492 00:24:58,750 --> 00:25:03,042 The Nazis developed the first operational jet fighter. 493 00:25:03,042 --> 00:25:07,333 The Nazi V-1, and in particular the V-2, 494 00:25:07,333 --> 00:25:12,333 were super weapons developed by Wernher von Braun. 495 00:25:12,333 --> 00:25:17,083 The Allies were desperate to get their hands on Von Braun 496 00:25:17,083 --> 00:25:20,667 and all the other people who worked with him. 497 00:25:20,667 --> 00:25:22,458 - Following World War II, 498 00:25:22,458 --> 00:25:26,042 the United States government started Operation Paperclip, 499 00:25:26,042 --> 00:25:30,500 which brought around 1,500 German scientists 500 00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:31,875 to the United States 501 00:25:31,875 --> 00:25:36,833 and put them to work developing all kinds of technology 502 00:25:36,833 --> 00:25:38,875 for the American military. 503 00:25:38,875 --> 00:25:42,208 - And Paperclip was not just highly classified, 504 00:25:42,208 --> 00:25:43,708 but very sensitive 505 00:25:43,708 --> 00:25:48,167 because, of course, we just had the Nuremberg Trials. 506 00:25:48,167 --> 00:25:52,250 We just had the footage of the concentration camps 507 00:25:52,250 --> 00:25:54,167 and people were outraged. 508 00:25:54,167 --> 00:25:57,458 Bringing some of these Nazi scientists over 509 00:25:57,458 --> 00:25:59,208 and putting them on the payroll, 510 00:25:59,208 --> 00:26:03,500 that would not have played well with the US public. 511 00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:06,708 - Some people think that the Roswell event 512 00:26:06,708 --> 00:26:08,667 is related to early tests 513 00:26:08,667 --> 00:26:11,417 of these former Nazi scientists and engineers 514 00:26:11,417 --> 00:26:13,083 performing work in the US. 515 00:26:14,208 --> 00:26:16,583 [tense music] 516 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,958 - In 2000, the Polish journalist Igor Witkowski 517 00:26:22,958 --> 00:26:26,042 publishes a book about the research and development 518 00:26:26,042 --> 00:26:31,208 of a particular type of German aircraft known as Die Glocke. 519 00:26:31,208 --> 00:26:34,375 - This top secret German aeronautical program 520 00:26:34,375 --> 00:26:36,083 called Die Glocke, or The Bell, 521 00:26:36,083 --> 00:26:39,500 is essentially a vertical takeoff and landing aircraft. 522 00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:41,792 The idea is to have a jet engine 523 00:26:41,792 --> 00:26:44,542 that effectively fires straight down, 524 00:26:44,542 --> 00:26:47,250 providing lift, kind of like a rocket, 525 00:26:47,250 --> 00:26:50,042 but with an air-breathing jet engine instead. 526 00:26:50,042 --> 00:26:52,917 By changing the direction of the vanes within the aircraft, 527 00:26:52,917 --> 00:26:55,208 you would be able to then move it laterally 528 00:26:55,208 --> 00:26:56,833 throughout the sky. 529 00:26:56,833 --> 00:27:00,292 - Any advanced Nazi rocket technology 530 00:27:00,292 --> 00:27:03,417 would have been developed by Wernher von Braun. 531 00:27:03,417 --> 00:27:05,875 Even though the Nazis never unleashed Die Glocke 532 00:27:05,875 --> 00:27:07,125 on the battlefield, 533 00:27:07,125 --> 00:27:09,125 the Allies specifically pick up Von Braun 534 00:27:09,125 --> 00:27:11,875 so that he can bring his designs with him 535 00:27:11,875 --> 00:27:16,000 to an Army research base at White Sands, New Mexico. 536 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,542 - The book describes this incredible machine 537 00:27:18,542 --> 00:27:22,292 as a glowing, bell-shaped object 538 00:27:22,292 --> 00:27:26,708 not too dissimilar from the shape of a flying saucer. 539 00:27:26,708 --> 00:27:31,042 - The similarities in shape, size, color, and movement 540 00:27:31,042 --> 00:27:33,542 between Witkowski's description of the Glocke 541 00:27:33,542 --> 00:27:35,875 and other witness reports 542 00:27:35,875 --> 00:27:38,833 lead to the theory that Von Braun is actually 543 00:27:38,833 --> 00:27:40,792 developing and testing a prototype of the Glocke 544 00:27:40,792 --> 00:27:43,375 for the US military in 1947. 545 00:27:43,375 --> 00:27:47,375 - Witkowski claimed that the propulsion system for the Bell 546 00:27:47,375 --> 00:27:50,708 was something called Xerum 525. 547 00:27:50,708 --> 00:27:53,583 This is apparently a purple fluid 548 00:27:53,583 --> 00:27:58,042 that's radioactive and/or poisonous. 549 00:27:58,042 --> 00:27:59,583 - The night of the Roswell incident, 550 00:27:59,583 --> 00:28:01,750 a number of eyewitnesses report 551 00:28:01,750 --> 00:28:04,000 that the objects they saw in the sky 552 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,042 did glow with a kind of blue-violet glow, 553 00:28:07,042 --> 00:28:11,333 which is the color of the Xerum 525 gas. 554 00:28:11,333 --> 00:28:13,333 - So, according to this theory, 555 00:28:13,333 --> 00:28:15,125 it was flown from White Sands 556 00:28:15,125 --> 00:28:18,250 and it fell apart during the test, 557 00:28:18,250 --> 00:28:22,167 and they found a material at Roswell on the Foster Ranch. 558 00:28:22,167 --> 00:28:25,875 - Allegedly the bodies of the aliens that were found there 559 00:28:25,875 --> 00:28:27,542 were actually human bodies, 560 00:28:27,542 --> 00:28:29,583 the bodies of test pilots 561 00:28:29,583 --> 00:28:31,750 who were selected for their small size 562 00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:34,458 in order to fit into the prototype. 563 00:28:34,458 --> 00:28:35,875 - To keep the crash 564 00:28:35,875 --> 00:28:39,042 of a Nazi-designed super weapon a secret, 565 00:28:39,042 --> 00:28:40,667 they would need to pretty quickly 566 00:28:40,667 --> 00:28:42,125 figure out a cover story. 567 00:28:42,125 --> 00:28:43,833 - Given the fact that there was 568 00:28:43,833 --> 00:28:47,917 this flying saucer alien craze going on at the time, 569 00:28:47,917 --> 00:28:49,833 the government would've thought that, "Hey, 570 00:28:49,833 --> 00:28:51,500 we could divert your attention away 571 00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:52,708 from what's really going on," 572 00:28:52,708 --> 00:28:54,042 and people could grab ahold 573 00:28:54,042 --> 00:28:56,875 to this ridiculous theory of aliens. 574 00:28:57,875 --> 00:28:59,042 - According to this theory, 575 00:28:59,042 --> 00:29:01,208 the story was shared, however, 576 00:29:01,208 --> 00:29:04,250 without the approval of higher ranked officials 577 00:29:04,250 --> 00:29:06,875 and so it had to be quickly retracted, 578 00:29:06,875 --> 00:29:09,542 and that's why the story of the weather balloon 579 00:29:09,542 --> 00:29:11,417 was substituted for it instead. 580 00:29:12,917 --> 00:29:15,917 When Project Paperclip was finally declassified, however, 581 00:29:15,917 --> 00:29:18,500 there is no mention of The Bell 582 00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:21,208 or of the testing of these propulsion systems, 583 00:29:21,208 --> 00:29:24,000 so either it never really happened 584 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,417 or it was completely covered up. 585 00:29:31,833 --> 00:29:33,458 - [Laurence] In 2011, 586 00:29:33,458 --> 00:29:36,875 Pulitzer Prize-nominated journalist Annie Jacobsen 587 00:29:36,875 --> 00:29:40,042 proposes a new theory about the Roswell crash. 588 00:29:41,458 --> 00:29:45,000 - Annie Jacobsen writes a book contending 589 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,708 that what crashed in that field in Roswell 590 00:29:48,708 --> 00:29:52,375 was not in fact an alien spacecraft, 591 00:29:52,375 --> 00:29:54,625 but a Soviet aircraft. 592 00:29:55,625 --> 00:30:00,250 - In 1947, the United States is the only nation on Earth 593 00:30:00,250 --> 00:30:01,708 that has the bomb. 594 00:30:01,708 --> 00:30:05,042 The Soviets are desperate to catch up 595 00:30:05,042 --> 00:30:08,292 and need to do something to maybe close the gap. 596 00:30:08,292 --> 00:30:12,042 - Jacobsen's theory is that the Soviets devise a plan 597 00:30:12,042 --> 00:30:14,875 to make the Americans think that they're under attack. 598 00:30:14,875 --> 00:30:17,083 [tense music] 599 00:30:19,875 --> 00:30:23,125 - Two German aerospace engineers, the Horten brothers, 600 00:30:23,125 --> 00:30:26,125 had been part of a program in Nazi Germany 601 00:30:26,125 --> 00:30:29,542 to try to create what we would refer to as a flying wing. 602 00:30:29,542 --> 00:30:30,833 To the outside observer, 603 00:30:30,917 --> 00:30:35,417 it looks kind of like a flat, almost oblong shape. 604 00:30:35,417 --> 00:30:37,375 What the flying wing does 605 00:30:37,375 --> 00:30:40,875 is tries to extend the range of an aircraft. 606 00:30:40,875 --> 00:30:42,417 The Germans were convinced 607 00:30:42,417 --> 00:30:46,333 that if American cities were threatened by German attack, 608 00:30:46,333 --> 00:30:48,375 then the Americans would not have the stomach 609 00:30:48,375 --> 00:30:49,500 to continue the fight. 610 00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:53,875 - Jacobsen argues that in the years after the war, 611 00:30:53,875 --> 00:30:56,917 the Horten brothers went to the Soviet Union 612 00:30:56,917 --> 00:31:00,208 and began to design new technology 613 00:31:00,208 --> 00:31:04,167 and work on projects for Joseph Stalin. 614 00:31:04,167 --> 00:31:07,292 - The brothers come up with this disc-shaped craft 615 00:31:07,292 --> 00:31:10,042 based on the plans for their flying wing 616 00:31:10,042 --> 00:31:11,958 that is made of high-tech materials 617 00:31:11,958 --> 00:31:15,958 that's really good at evading radar detection. 618 00:31:15,958 --> 00:31:18,083 - [Laurence] According to Jacobsen's theory, 619 00:31:18,083 --> 00:31:22,542 Joseph Stalin saw another potential use for this aircraft. 620 00:31:22,542 --> 00:31:25,917 - They want to develop nuclear technology of their own 621 00:31:25,917 --> 00:31:29,917 so that they can counter American world domination. 622 00:31:29,917 --> 00:31:33,042 - This plot is meant to, as the theory goes, 623 00:31:33,042 --> 00:31:35,292 buy Joseph Stalin more time, 624 00:31:35,292 --> 00:31:37,792 and Russian scientists more time 625 00:31:37,792 --> 00:31:40,375 to develop their atomic weapons. 626 00:31:40,375 --> 00:31:44,958 - Stalin comes up with this plan to distract the US military 627 00:31:44,958 --> 00:31:47,208 by staging this fake invasion. 628 00:31:47,208 --> 00:31:50,042 - Americans will be so freaked out 629 00:31:50,042 --> 00:31:53,542 and disturbed by the idea of a UFO 630 00:31:53,542 --> 00:31:56,458 that it will distract the American people, 631 00:31:56,458 --> 00:31:57,833 the American government, 632 00:31:57,833 --> 00:32:02,292 and stop them from continuing on with their atomic program. 633 00:32:02,292 --> 00:32:04,958 - There is precedence for pandemonium 634 00:32:04,958 --> 00:32:08,458 being spurred by a supposed alien invasion. 635 00:32:08,458 --> 00:32:11,500 In 1938, there was a radio reading 636 00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:14,167 of Orson Welles' "The War of the Worlds" 637 00:32:14,167 --> 00:32:17,667 which was so convincing that people actually thought 638 00:32:17,667 --> 00:32:20,000 we were being invaded by aliens. 639 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,875 - Joseph Stalin is pretty convinced 640 00:32:21,875 --> 00:32:25,333 that the American public is gullible 641 00:32:25,333 --> 00:32:27,958 and he's willing to authorize 642 00:32:27,958 --> 00:32:29,833 even the most harebrained schemes 643 00:32:29,833 --> 00:32:31,458 to try to convince the Americans 644 00:32:31,458 --> 00:32:34,708 of the possibility of invasion from outer space. 645 00:32:34,708 --> 00:32:38,792 - As the theory goes, in the first week of July 1947, 646 00:32:38,792 --> 00:32:43,875 Stalin orders the flying disc to be flown into US airspace. 647 00:32:43,875 --> 00:32:47,208 - They decide that they're going to stage this incident 648 00:32:47,208 --> 00:32:50,333 in the southwestern part of the United States 649 00:32:50,333 --> 00:32:53,208 because there are a lot of bases in that area. 650 00:32:53,208 --> 00:32:56,542 - White Sands, Area 51, Roswell, 651 00:32:56,542 --> 00:32:57,708 these are all places 652 00:32:57,708 --> 00:32:59,708 where military technology was being developed 653 00:32:59,708 --> 00:33:01,208 and where the Soviets hoped 654 00:33:01,208 --> 00:33:05,917 that they could distract Americans from that technology. 655 00:33:05,917 --> 00:33:09,042 - We don't know how this flying disc, 656 00:33:09,042 --> 00:33:11,958 if it was a Soviet flying disc, crashed. 657 00:33:11,958 --> 00:33:13,125 Was it shot down? 658 00:33:13,125 --> 00:33:16,583 Did it crash of its own accord? 659 00:33:16,583 --> 00:33:18,375 But however it happened, 660 00:33:18,375 --> 00:33:22,167 the theory is that it came down at Roswell. 661 00:33:22,167 --> 00:33:23,458 - And what's funny about this 662 00:33:23,458 --> 00:33:25,708 is that if Jacobsen's theory is correct, 663 00:33:25,708 --> 00:33:28,333 then the original story put out by the military 664 00:33:28,333 --> 00:33:31,042 saying that it was a flying disc or flying saucer 665 00:33:31,042 --> 00:33:34,500 that was recovered, is pretty much the true story. 666 00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:37,583 - Annie Jacobsen's theory is this was all designed 667 00:33:37,583 --> 00:33:41,208 to sow as much confusion as possible. 668 00:33:41,208 --> 00:33:46,125 But the military changed their story within 24 hours, 669 00:33:46,125 --> 00:33:48,333 and this second official explanation 670 00:33:48,333 --> 00:33:51,792 immediately scuppered Stalin's plan 671 00:33:51,792 --> 00:33:53,542 because if it's a weather balloon, 672 00:33:53,542 --> 00:33:55,792 clearly there's gonna be no panic. 673 00:33:55,792 --> 00:33:58,542 Now to close that nuclear gap, 674 00:33:58,542 --> 00:34:03,333 Stalin's best bet then becomes putting all the resources 675 00:34:03,333 --> 00:34:05,375 into developing the bomb, 676 00:34:05,375 --> 00:34:10,167 which the Soviet Union actually does in 1949. 677 00:34:16,250 --> 00:34:18,333 - [Laurence] In 2017, 678 00:34:18,333 --> 00:34:22,167 an unexpected new theory about the Roswell crash emerges, 679 00:34:22,167 --> 00:34:25,417 one that asks just how far the US government might go 680 00:34:25,417 --> 00:34:28,750 to keep its edge in the Cold War. 681 00:34:28,750 --> 00:34:30,083 - After World War II, 682 00:34:30,083 --> 00:34:33,375 the United States government recognizes this need 683 00:34:33,375 --> 00:34:35,958 to keep tabs on the Soviet Union, 684 00:34:35,958 --> 00:34:37,875 and the best way to do that 685 00:34:37,875 --> 00:34:42,917 is to develop high altitude, reconnaissance aircraft. 686 00:34:42,917 --> 00:34:48,292 - There is no such thing as artificial satellites in 1947, 687 00:34:48,292 --> 00:34:50,375 so what they needed was aircraft 688 00:34:50,375 --> 00:34:53,208 that can fly over enemy defenses. 689 00:34:53,208 --> 00:34:57,208 - It became strategically imperative for the United States 690 00:34:57,208 --> 00:35:02,000 to fly reconnaissance aircraft at ever higher altitudes. 691 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,167 Prior to 1947, 692 00:35:04,167 --> 00:35:07,333 the highest altitude anyone had ever flown at 693 00:35:07,333 --> 00:35:11,208 in a fixed-wing aircraft was 58,000 feet. 694 00:35:11,208 --> 00:35:14,542 Mount Everest is 29,000 feet high, 695 00:35:14,542 --> 00:35:18,625 and most commercial aircraft fly at 36,000 feet. 696 00:35:18,625 --> 00:35:22,792 You are talking significantly above any of that. 697 00:35:22,792 --> 00:35:24,375 - And the higher you go, 698 00:35:24,375 --> 00:35:27,042 the density of the atmosphere falls off exponentially 699 00:35:27,042 --> 00:35:29,708 so there's less and less oxygen available. 700 00:35:29,708 --> 00:35:33,708 - So that creates all kinds of challenges for the pilots. 701 00:35:33,708 --> 00:35:35,625 A lot of pilots pass out, 702 00:35:35,625 --> 00:35:38,750 lose consciousness sometimes for minutes at a time. 703 00:35:38,750 --> 00:35:41,333 The US government was going to have to run a lot of tests 704 00:35:41,333 --> 00:35:43,375 on how that would be possible. 705 00:35:43,375 --> 00:35:46,250 - There is a theory that the United States Air Force 706 00:35:46,250 --> 00:35:48,917 was conducting human experiments 707 00:35:48,917 --> 00:35:52,333 using individuals who would not be missed by society. 708 00:35:52,333 --> 00:35:54,625 [tense music] 709 00:35:56,458 --> 00:35:59,625 - In 2017, British researcher Nick Redfern 710 00:35:59,625 --> 00:36:00,792 makes a connection 711 00:36:00,792 --> 00:36:02,208 between these high-altitude weather balloons 712 00:36:02,208 --> 00:36:04,208 that were used for these experiments 713 00:36:04,208 --> 00:36:06,292 and what fell out of the sky at Roswell. 714 00:36:07,208 --> 00:36:09,375 - So it's Nick Redfern's contention 715 00:36:09,375 --> 00:36:11,208 that the Air Force is going to use 716 00:36:11,208 --> 00:36:13,583 these modified weather balloons 717 00:36:13,583 --> 00:36:16,917 to start testing how the body responds 718 00:36:16,917 --> 00:36:19,958 to such extremely high altitude. 719 00:36:19,958 --> 00:36:21,917 - According to Redfern's theory, 720 00:36:21,917 --> 00:36:25,375 the people that were being used in these tests 721 00:36:25,375 --> 00:36:28,375 were pulled from asylums, prisons, 722 00:36:28,375 --> 00:36:31,583 and places where no one would notice 723 00:36:31,583 --> 00:36:34,333 and no one would complain about them being missing. 724 00:36:35,333 --> 00:36:39,708 - Redfern hypothesizes that they attach these gondolas 725 00:36:39,708 --> 00:36:41,125 to the balloon 726 00:36:41,125 --> 00:36:44,333 and they put people in the gondola 727 00:36:44,333 --> 00:36:49,083 whom they are forcing to engage in this experiment. 728 00:36:49,083 --> 00:36:50,792 In the case of the Roswell crash, 729 00:36:50,792 --> 00:36:53,875 one of these balloons separated from the gondola 730 00:36:53,875 --> 00:36:56,875 and the balloon would've crashed in one place, 731 00:36:56,875 --> 00:37:01,000 the gondola with the bodies of the victims in another place. 732 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,958 - This would possibly explain all the different elements 733 00:37:04,958 --> 00:37:06,417 of the Roswell crash. 734 00:37:06,417 --> 00:37:08,500 Some people saw bodies, some people didn't. 735 00:37:08,500 --> 00:37:11,500 Some people saw debris at this site 736 00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:15,000 and others at a site much further away. 737 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,500 You have two different crashes of two very different things. 738 00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:20,875 - According to Redfern, 739 00:37:20,875 --> 00:37:23,167 one of the individuals that he interviewed 740 00:37:23,167 --> 00:37:24,375 worked at Fort Stanton, 741 00:37:24,375 --> 00:37:26,667 about 30 miles away from Roswell, 742 00:37:26,667 --> 00:37:29,667 and claimed to have been part of a recovery effort 743 00:37:29,667 --> 00:37:32,375 rushing a grievously injured individual 744 00:37:32,375 --> 00:37:33,792 to the base facilities. 745 00:37:35,292 --> 00:37:37,375 - One person was treated for injuries 746 00:37:37,375 --> 00:37:40,875 but apparently died a week or so later. 747 00:37:40,875 --> 00:37:45,667 Is this where we have the story of the Roswell survivor? 748 00:37:45,667 --> 00:37:49,542 - Redfern's theory has some historic plausibility 749 00:37:49,542 --> 00:37:51,167 because there was a project 750 00:37:51,167 --> 00:37:53,375 where they did experiments on people. 751 00:37:53,375 --> 00:37:55,042 The American government conducted 752 00:37:55,042 --> 00:37:56,667 the famous Tuskegee experiment 753 00:37:56,667 --> 00:37:59,875 where men who were tested to have syphilis 754 00:37:59,875 --> 00:38:01,917 were monitored instead of being cured. 755 00:38:01,917 --> 00:38:03,750 They were used as test subjects. 756 00:38:03,750 --> 00:38:05,583 - By the time of the Roswell crash, 757 00:38:05,583 --> 00:38:08,958 the world is hearing these stories 758 00:38:08,958 --> 00:38:12,875 of concentration camp victims being experimented on, 759 00:38:12,875 --> 00:38:16,208 and the idea that you could experiment on people 760 00:38:16,208 --> 00:38:18,625 who weren't giving their consent 761 00:38:18,625 --> 00:38:22,542 was condemned and banned by the Nuremberg Code. 762 00:38:22,542 --> 00:38:24,833 Certainly, the US wouldn't want to be seen 763 00:38:24,833 --> 00:38:28,583 as engaging in the same behavior as the Nazis. 764 00:38:28,583 --> 00:38:31,583 - Redfern alleges a massive government coverup. 765 00:38:31,583 --> 00:38:34,042 He claims that government functionaries 766 00:38:34,042 --> 00:38:37,542 destroyed all of the records and cremated the bodies 767 00:38:37,542 --> 00:38:40,375 as a means of covering up the horrible research 768 00:38:40,375 --> 00:38:42,542 that was being carried out. 769 00:38:42,542 --> 00:38:44,042 - [Laurence] Like many of the other theories 770 00:38:44,042 --> 00:38:48,917 around Roswell, this one only raises more questions. 771 00:38:48,917 --> 00:38:51,333 - They would've used adults in their tests, 772 00:38:51,333 --> 00:38:52,750 but people who saw the bodies 773 00:38:52,750 --> 00:38:54,708 claim that they were child-sized. 774 00:38:54,708 --> 00:38:57,000 So that doesn't square with Redfern's theory. 775 00:38:58,125 --> 00:38:59,375 - Whatever we believe, 776 00:38:59,375 --> 00:39:01,208 whether people are skeptics or believers, 777 00:39:01,208 --> 00:39:05,250 Roswell is real, something crashed. 778 00:39:05,250 --> 00:39:06,625 But the question is, what? 779 00:39:06,625 --> 00:39:08,792 It's not necessarily, 780 00:39:08,792 --> 00:39:12,458 as the military would like to say on Roswell, case closed. 781 00:39:15,667 --> 00:39:18,042 - Today, the town of Roswell has become 782 00:39:18,042 --> 00:39:21,958 a thriving tourist destination for UFO fanatics, 783 00:39:21,958 --> 00:39:25,042 but that's only one of the possible explanations 784 00:39:25,042 --> 00:39:28,708 for what happened at Foster Ranch over 80 miles away. 785 00:39:29,708 --> 00:39:33,542 Whether this was the crash site of a top secret test flight, 786 00:39:33,542 --> 00:39:35,417 a Cold War scheme, 787 00:39:35,417 --> 00:39:37,542 or something truly unearthly, 788 00:39:38,625 --> 00:39:41,542 most of the eyewitnesses have long since passed away 789 00:39:41,542 --> 00:39:44,125 and the search for answers continues. 790 00:39:45,250 --> 00:39:46,875 I'm Laurence Fishburne. 791 00:39:46,875 --> 00:39:50,542 Thank you for watching History's Greatest Mysteries. 792 00:39:50,542 --> 00:39:52,875 [mysterious music] 63260

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