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- Tonight, a strange discovery
in the New Mexico desert
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sparks a mystery that's
endured for nearly 80 years.
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- We know something crashed
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in that sheep field
out in Roswell in 1947,
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but the parts of the
puzzle just don't add up.
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- I-beams, silken
strands of fiber optics.
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No one is able to identify
this strange material.
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- This was a 200-yard
swath of debris
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which, when it was
all gathered up,
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only weighed five pounds.
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How is that possible?
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- The deeper researchers
dig into what witnesses saw,
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the more questions are raised.
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- Were they actual aliens
or human guinea pigs?
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- Whether people are
skeptics or believers,
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something crashed, but
the question is, what?
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- We know that there
was a government coverup
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because the government
admitted as such,
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but we don't even know if
that's the whole story.
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- Now, we'll explore
the top theories
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surrounding one of America's
most infamous incidents.
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- This would possibly explain
all the different elements
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of the Roswell crash.
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Some people saw bodies,
some people didn't.
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- By now, there's so much
speculation, we don't know,
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and we may never know.
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- What really fell out of
the sky in 1947 in Roswell?
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[dramatic music]
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- [Laurence] June 14th, 1947.
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80 miles northwest of
Roswell, New Mexico,
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a sheep rancher named Mac Brazel
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comes across something
highly unusual.
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- He was tending to
some of the sheep and
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he noticed that they wouldn't
cross a particular field.
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- So he sets out and explores
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and finds this debris field
in the middle of nowhere.
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It looks like something
was moving at a high speed
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and crash-landed and just
spread out there for 200 yards.
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- Given the remote
nature of this site,
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the logical conclusion must be
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that this thing could only
have come from the sky.
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- He wants to bring it in
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and turn it over
to some authorities
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out of concern that it might be
some form of aviation accident.
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- [Laurence] But Brazel's
trip to Roswell is delayed,
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and by the time he reaches
the sheriff's office
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with the crash debris,
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two other Roswell residents
have also witnessed something
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they can't explain.
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- On July 2nd,
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Dan Wilmot is
sitting on his porch
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with his wife Mary Grace,
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and suddenly they see this
strange object in the sky.
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It's oval shaped, it's
very brightly illuminated
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as if it's got its own
internal light source,
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and there's virtually no sound.
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- The object was about 10
to 20 feet in diameter.
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He thinks it was moving around
4 to 500 miles per hour.
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And they observe it
for about a minute
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and then it goes away.
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- [Laurence] After Brazel
delivers the material,
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the concerned sheriff
immediately calls
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the nearby Army airfield.
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- The Roswell crash took
place against the backdrop
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of the modern flying
saucer phenomenon.
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This all started
on June 24th, 1947,
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with Kenneth Arnold,
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a pilot flying light aircraft.
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- He claims that he has seen
nine disc-shaped aircraft
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flying in formation
near Mount Rainier
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flying at 1,200 miles an hour,
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which is three times as fast
as the fastest aircraft.
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And the media really
takes this up.
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- [Laurence] Newspapers
quickly dub the objects
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"flying discs," or
"flying saucers."
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- After his report
becomes publicized,
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it inspires other
people to purport
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that they have also seen
bizarre phenomena in the skies,
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and we are in the midst
of flying saucer fever.
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- In that period between
June and July 1947,
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there are hundreds of people
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who report seeing flying
saucers in the sky.
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- Banner headlines,
day after day,
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through every news source
around the country.
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What are these flying saucers?
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Where are they from?
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But what Brazel discovered is
an altogether different story.
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It's nothing fleeting
in the nighttime sky.
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It's something recovered.
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It's something that had crashed.
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- It escalates the
whole situation
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to a completely different level.
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The Army takes this
extremely seriously
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and they actually send one
of their brightest and best,
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the base intelligence
officer Jesse Marcel,
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out to investigate.
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They know that whatever it is,
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it's not a US military
aircraft crash.
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So now the situation is this.
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If it's not the US
military, who or what is it?
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- [Laurence] On July 8th, 1947,
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the Roswell Army Airfield
puts out a press release
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saying that they have found
pieces of a flying saucer.
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- We've had two weeks
of flying saucer fever
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and now the US military
have one of these things.
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The press release goes out
and it's near hysteria.
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- The public takes
it a lot seriously
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than could have
possibly been expected.
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- [Laurence] Later that day,
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Major Marcel flies
the debris to Texas
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for further examination.
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- They arrive in Fort Worth.
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General Roger Ramey,
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head of the Eighth Air Force
at Carswell Army Airfield,
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wants to have a
press conference.
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- Then, something
really weird happens.
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Within 24 hours of
telling the world
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that the US military has
recovered a flying saucer,
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they flip the narrative.
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[tense music]
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- General Ramey
announces to the press
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it was all a mistake, it
was all a overreaction.
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It's nothing more than a
very standard weather balloon
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with a radar reflector kite.
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- To help alleviate
concerns from the public,
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they release a photo
with Major Marcel posing
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with what is said to be debris
from this weather balloon.
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- The cover story
was totally believed.
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Roswell just disappears from
the narrative for 30 years.
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- [Laurence] All is
quiet until 1978,
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when Major Jesse Marcel
opens the floodgates
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on Roswell witness statements.
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- Marcel is 71 years old, he's
retired from the military,
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but after 30 years,
he finally decides
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that it's time to go public
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with the secret that
he's been hanging onto
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for all this time.
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- Jesse Marcel does an interview
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with astronomer
Stanton Friedman,
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during which he confesses
that he was told
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to stick to the story that
this is a weather balloon
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and nothing else.
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- Marcel claims those were not
actually all of the materials
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that he had recovered from
the site near Roswell.
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There's much more debris
that's not in the photos.
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And he describes the
material that he found
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as being not of this Earth.
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[tense music]
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- There are silken strands like
microfilament fishing line.
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There are I-beam structures
of a pinkish-purplish hue
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with strange symbols that
run the length of each piece.
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And then Marcel describes the
most amazing material of all.
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Paper-thin, metal-like material,
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practically weightless
in your hands.
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This material you can crush,
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you can fold, you can crease,
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and each and every time,
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it assumes its original
shape and size.
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- Today, we call this type of
alloy a shape memory alloy.
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Shape memory alloys
weren't widely manufactured
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until the 1960s, though,
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and the crash was in 1947.
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- It's easy to see why
people would believe Marcel.
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He's a credible source,
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he's a former
intelligence officer,
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and he is now saying
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that what the government
said is not true.
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And this really is the
beginning of this idea
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that there really might be a
massive government coverup.
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- [Laurence] After
speaking with Marcel,
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Friedman begins collecting
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dozens of other witness
accounts from Roswell
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that describe a second crash
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and a massive coverup
of who was in it.
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- It's one thing to
hear Jesse Marcel say
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that it wasn't a weather balloon
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and that whatever fell out of
the sky came from outer space.
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But these are witnesses
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who are claiming to
have seen something
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that wasn't even human.
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- The same day that
Jesse Marcel came back
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with the debris from the ranch,
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a local mortician, Glenn Dennis,
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also gets drawn into a very
weird part of the story
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because as well as
being a mortician,
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he sometimes drives
an ambulance.
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- He was delivering an
injured person to the airfield
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when he witnesses the
arrival of these materials
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and he also sees this beam
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with purple and pink
hieroglyphic writing on it.
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- And he says,
because of his work
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in the local funeral
home, he is asked,
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"Do you have a number of
child-sized caskets?"
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And of course, he's horrified.
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And only later do people
start to put this together
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and say, "Well, wait a minute.
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Maybe it wasn't dead
kids, but dead aliens."
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[tense music]
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- One of the witnesses
who comes forward
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all these 40 years later
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has some details and evidence
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of a second crash
site near Roswell.
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- A crew chief with the
Roswell Fire Department,
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named Dan Dwyer, comes forward
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and he wants to talk
about the crash
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that he'd heard about on
the plains of San Augustin.
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He says that he and another
fireman go to the site,
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but when they get
there, they find
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that there's a government
recovery effort taking place.
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Well, if this is
just a regular crash,
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why is the government involved?
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- Dwyer claims to have witnessed
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essentially the collection
of alien bodies.
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He says there were two
of them on stretchers
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inside mortuary bags
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and a third one that appeared
to be severely injured.
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- Dwyer is not the only person
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who reports bodies
at this crash site.
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An Air Force sergeant
named Melvin Brown
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claims that he was sent there
to guard the crash site.
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While he's there, he claims
that he sees two alien bodies.
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- Dennis, Dwyer, and Brown
aren't the only ones.
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There are many more witnesses
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who are claiming
they saw something.
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Now, whether it's debris or
bodies or lights in the sky,
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whatever crashed in
Roswell that night
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led to people insisting
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that they saw something
extremely unusual.
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- When you take into account
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all of these
eyewitness testimonies
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and people seeing
these strange things,
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it's easy to see why this flying
saucer theory might endure.
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- We may never
know what happened,
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but we have credible
witnesses who have seen things
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that are difficult to explain
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and make it hard for the
theory of the weather balloon
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to really hold up.
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- [Laurence] Despite
a flurry of additional
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eyewitness accounts
in the 1970s and '80s
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detailing new theories on what
really happened at Roswell,
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the Air Force
consistently maintains
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that what crashed was
only a weather balloon.
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- Part of the reason they
stick with that story
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is the story's working fine.
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- With the exception of
arguably a niche community,
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there's been no one
really challenging
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the official narrative.
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- Finally, in 1993,
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a congressman from New
Mexico, Steven Schiff,
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starts to pressure
the federal government
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to release more information.
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- [Laurence] In 1995,
the government releases
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"The Roswell Report:
Fact vs Fiction."
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It includes a shocking
new revelation.
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What crashed actually belonged
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to a classified military
program called Project Mogul.
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- The Air Force said,
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"We were keeping a
secret from people,
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but the secret we were
keeping wasn't aliens.
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It was a spy program,
highly classified."
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[tense music]
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- In 1947, the United States is
the only nuclear power on Earth.
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It's very clear to
the Americans, though,
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that the Soviets
desperately want
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to develop their
own atomic weapon,
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but we don't have a
good way of knowing
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how well the Soviets are
doing in that pursuit.
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- Project Mogul is
spearheaded by Maurice Ewing,
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a US geophysicist,
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and is basically this
operation by the US government
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to develop spy balloons
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to sense the detonations
of atomic weaponry
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all the way around the
globe by the Soviet Union.
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- The idea is to put
microphones on weather balloons,
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send 'em to this high altitude,
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so if a particular
nuclear blast goes off
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and three of these microphones
receive that signal,
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they can triangulate back
to its original source.
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- This is what makes a
high-altitude balloon
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such an effective tool here
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because it can
float, remain steady,
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and be in the air for
a really long time.
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- Some of these weather balloons
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associated with Project
Mogul are enormous.
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They're 400 to 500
feet in diameter.
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They're built to hover in place
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and they fly at 100,000
to 200,000 feet.
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- They have to be able to carry
500 pounds worth of equipment,
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they have to be both
lightweight and really strong,
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so they need to be made
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of really, really advanced
composite materials.
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They also have
metallic substances
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that are very light reflective,
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so they might appear to glow.
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- Based on the
shape, the dimension,
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and the behavior of the
Project Mogul balloons,
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you can see why
somebody might conclude
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that these objects
are flying saucers.
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- [Laurence] Between
1947 and 1949,
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Project Mogul conducts a total
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of 110 top secret
research flights.
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- Most of these
tests are happening
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initially on the East Coast,
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but there's too much
commercial traffic,
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so they decide to launch
these balloons instead
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from Alamogordo Airbase
in the Tularosa Basin
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in Southern New Mexico.
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- According to declassified
documents about Project Mogul,
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the first flight
launched from Alamogordo
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goes as far as
Arabela, New Mexico.
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- Supposedly, on June 4th, 1947,
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it came smashing down to Earth
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with all of its radar
reflection materials
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and other sensors.
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- Looking back at
the old photos,
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we see what looks
like radar reflectors,
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we see what looks like
shredded polyethylene plastics.
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The average person in 1947
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wouldn't know
anything about that.
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- It doesn't really
look like parts
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of a terrestrial aircraft,
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and so they're fairly
certain of what it's not,
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but that doesn't mean that
they actually recognize
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what it is.
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- Even the highly-trained
people like Jesse Marcel
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wouldn't recognize
all of this material,
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so they'd be saying,
"Yeah, look,
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I know what a weather balloon
looks like and this ain't it."
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- [Laurence] The report
also has an explanation
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for the purple hieroglyphics
described by witnesses.
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- The engineers that
cobbled together
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some of the early
balloons for Project Mogul
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had to use whatever
materials they had available.
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- Despite this being a
highly-classified program,
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this was still the
post-war period,
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there were some shortages,
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occasionally even the
military had to just make do,
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and apparently they used
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some commercially
available adhesive tape.
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- The tape that they're using
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is actually just some
leftovers that were unsold
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from a children's toy company.
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It's designed to attract
a child's attention.
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It's just covered with colorful
shapes and pink and purple.
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- This tape is what
the government explains
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as the source of those
eyewitness reports
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of the purple and pink
hieroglyphics on the metal beam.
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- [Laurence] By 1949,
two years after Roswell,
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Project Mogul is
completely shut down.
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- For a number of reasons,
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Project Mogul was
terminated in 1949.
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Cost, security,
practical concerns,
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the most obvious of which
was that by that time,
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the Soviets had
detonated their own bomb.
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- So we know they have it
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and there is no longer
any need to listen for it.
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- Despite the declassification
of these documents,
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rumors persist
that the government
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is not being
entirely transparent.
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- The government's
explanation of Project Mogul
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seems to make sense and
it seems to be consistent
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with what people saw,
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except that there's
all these witnesses
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who claim that they saw bodies.
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There's nothing in Project
Mogul that included bodies.
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So what is the story there?
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- [Laurence] In the 1990s,
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five decades after
the Roswell crash
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first made headlines in 1947,
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the public's demand for
answers reaches a fever pitch.
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- By the 1990s, Americans
have been through Watergate,
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Iran-Contra and the Vietnam War,
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and Americans realize that
the federal government
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and particularly
the US military,
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is keeping a lot of secrets.
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- And it makes sense that
the Project Mogul disclosure
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by the US government
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is met with some skepticism,
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because UFOs, alien abductions,
visits from another planet,
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this was all in the zeitgeist
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and it was reflected by
the movies and TV shows
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that we were watching.
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We've got "Star Wars,"
"Independence Day,"
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and "Close Encounters
of the Third Kind."
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Aliens were at the
top of people's minds.
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- And a lot of Americans
still genuinely believe
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that aliens landed in
Roswell, New Mexico, in 1947.
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- It hasn't gone away.
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Roswell continues
to grow in relevance
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and there's more and more
talk about the bodies.
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The Pentagon is compelled to
come up with an explanation
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because balloons
don't have pilots.
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- [Laurence] Two
years after the report
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revealing Project Mogul,
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the government offers
a new explanation.
396
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- In 1997, the Air Force
puts out its second study
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called "The Roswell
Report: Case Closed."
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- 1997 is the 50th anniversary
of the Roswell incident
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and of course, the Pentagon
has to go and spoil the party.
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First they double
down on Project Mogul,
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but then they address
the issue of the bodies
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and they say it's all due
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to a program called
Project High Dive.
404
00:20:48,750 --> 00:20:53,292
- After World War II, plane
technology revolutionized
405
00:20:53,292 --> 00:20:55,292
and they began flying
faster and higher
406
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than anyone had ever
thought possible,
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and the Air Force wondered,
408
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if our pilots have to eject
at this very high altitude,
409
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could they survive a landing?
410
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- So hundreds of mannequins are
deployed from the atmosphere
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and studied as they
tumble back towards Earth.
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[tense music]
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- There are at least 67 of
these High Dive mannequin drops
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in the Eastern New Mexico area.
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- Some of 'em begin to
spin at very high rates
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and that sends them off course
417
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and some of them actually
land in civilian areas.
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- The Air Force concludes
the most likely explanation
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for people claiming to
have seen dead alien bodies
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was that it's possible that
they actually had come across
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the aftermath of a
high altitude situation
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where something went wrong
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and the experiment came
plunging back to Earth.
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- So, Project High Dive
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regularly sent
scientists and soldiers
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to recover these mannequins
427
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regardless of where they fell,
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even in the most remote places.
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So the people that
are coming forward
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and claiming to have witnessed
soldiers with alien bodies
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might in fact have
just simply seen
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one of these recovery efforts.
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- Given the velocity
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with which these
mannequins hit the ground,
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you can see why witnesses
might have understood them
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to be small alien bodies,
437
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because they likely shattered
and were mangled upon impact.
438
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- [Laurence] Though this
theory provides one explanation,
439
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it raises new questions.
440
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- At the press conference
in which the Air Force
441
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is unveiling this report,
442
00:22:36,042 --> 00:22:40,958
the media points out that
the report explicitly says
443
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that Project High Dive
occurred in the 1950s
444
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while the Roswell
events happened
445
00:22:47,292 --> 00:22:50,458
a couple years
before that, in 1947.
446
00:22:50,458 --> 00:22:52,542
- Faced with this
apparent contradiction,
447
00:22:52,542 --> 00:22:55,000
the Air Force presents an idea
448
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,792
that it's basically in the
heads of the witnesses.
449
00:22:57,792 --> 00:23:00,625
They put forward what is
known as time compression.
450
00:23:00,625 --> 00:23:02,042
- Time compression is
451
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when people are remembering
important events
452
00:23:04,708 --> 00:23:07,208
at a distance of many decades.
453
00:23:07,208 --> 00:23:10,250
They may conflate
two important events
454
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and remember them as though
they happened at the same time.
455
00:23:14,250 --> 00:23:16,708
However, it seems unusual
456
00:23:16,708 --> 00:23:19,250
that people would've
compressed together
457
00:23:19,250 --> 00:23:22,583
memories of such import.
458
00:23:22,583 --> 00:23:24,292
It's possible, it's possible,
459
00:23:24,292 --> 00:23:26,875
but it also kind of
strains credibility.
460
00:23:26,875 --> 00:23:29,708
- And that caused a
lot of UFO researchers
461
00:23:29,708 --> 00:23:31,500
to be absolutely convinced
462
00:23:31,500 --> 00:23:33,667
this was just another
government coverup.
463
00:23:34,750 --> 00:23:37,208
- Despite what the
Air Force is saying,
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many of these Roswell witnesses
stand by their memories.
465
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So if we believe that
they saw actual bodies,
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where did they come from?
467
00:23:46,542 --> 00:23:49,458
- It may be that there
is a darker explanation
468
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connected to some
of the phenomena
469
00:23:51,375 --> 00:23:53,375
associated with Roswell.
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There's still questions
that remain unanswered.
471
00:23:59,333 --> 00:23:59,833
- By the end of the 1990s,
472
00:24:00,542 --> 00:24:02,042
the United States
military had admitted
473
00:24:02,042 --> 00:24:05,083
that its initial statement
about the Roswell crash
474
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was intentionally misleading,
475
00:24:07,625 --> 00:24:10,500
and has offered two very
different explanations
476
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for what witnesses
claim they saw in 1947.
477
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But in 2000, a Polish
journalist's research uncovers
478
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But in 2000, a Polish
journalist's research uncovers
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a shocking new possibility
480
00:24:20,583 --> 00:24:24,125
for what actually fell
out of the sky in Roswell.
481
00:24:25,417 --> 00:24:27,458
- We still haven't
got all the answers.
482
00:24:27,458 --> 00:24:28,958
It's still a mystery.
483
00:24:28,958 --> 00:24:32,708
But now there's a new
theory which suggests
484
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that the reason the government
is covering all this up
485
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is because it involves
Nazi technology.
486
00:24:40,250 --> 00:24:42,042
- There are a lot of
people that are convinced
487
00:24:42,042 --> 00:24:45,167
that what was actually witnessed
in the American Southwest
488
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were secret Nazi programs.
489
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- People forget
that in many areas,
490
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Nazi technology was
actually much more advanced
491
00:24:56,375 --> 00:24:58,750
than Allied technology.
492
00:24:58,750 --> 00:25:03,042
The Nazis developed the first
operational jet fighter.
493
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The Nazi V-1, and in
particular the V-2,
494
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were super weapons developed
by Wernher von Braun.
495
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The Allies were desperate to
get their hands on Von Braun
496
00:25:17,083 --> 00:25:20,667
and all the other people
who worked with him.
497
00:25:20,667 --> 00:25:22,458
- Following World War II,
498
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the United States government
started Operation Paperclip,
499
00:25:26,042 --> 00:25:30,500
which brought around
1,500 German scientists
500
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to the United States
501
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and put them to work developing
all kinds of technology
502
00:25:36,833 --> 00:25:38,875
for the American military.
503
00:25:38,875 --> 00:25:42,208
- And Paperclip was not
just highly classified,
504
00:25:42,208 --> 00:25:43,708
but very sensitive
505
00:25:43,708 --> 00:25:48,167
because, of course, we just
had the Nuremberg Trials.
506
00:25:48,167 --> 00:25:52,250
We just had the footage
of the concentration camps
507
00:25:52,250 --> 00:25:54,167
and people were outraged.
508
00:25:54,167 --> 00:25:57,458
Bringing some of these
Nazi scientists over
509
00:25:57,458 --> 00:25:59,208
and putting them on the payroll,
510
00:25:59,208 --> 00:26:03,500
that would not have played
well with the US public.
511
00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:06,708
- Some people think
that the Roswell event
512
00:26:06,708 --> 00:26:08,667
is related to early tests
513
00:26:08,667 --> 00:26:11,417
of these former Nazi
scientists and engineers
514
00:26:11,417 --> 00:26:13,083
performing work in the US.
515
00:26:14,208 --> 00:26:16,583
[tense music]
516
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,958
- In 2000, the Polish
journalist Igor Witkowski
517
00:26:22,958 --> 00:26:26,042
publishes a book about the
research and development
518
00:26:26,042 --> 00:26:31,208
of a particular type of German
aircraft known as Die Glocke.
519
00:26:31,208 --> 00:26:34,375
- This top secret German
aeronautical program
520
00:26:34,375 --> 00:26:36,083
called Die Glocke, or The Bell,
521
00:26:36,083 --> 00:26:39,500
is essentially a vertical
takeoff and landing aircraft.
522
00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:41,792
The idea is to have a jet engine
523
00:26:41,792 --> 00:26:44,542
that effectively
fires straight down,
524
00:26:44,542 --> 00:26:47,250
providing lift, kind
of like a rocket,
525
00:26:47,250 --> 00:26:50,042
but with an air-breathing
jet engine instead.
526
00:26:50,042 --> 00:26:52,917
By changing the direction of
the vanes within the aircraft,
527
00:26:52,917 --> 00:26:55,208
you would be able to
then move it laterally
528
00:26:55,208 --> 00:26:56,833
throughout the sky.
529
00:26:56,833 --> 00:27:00,292
- Any advanced Nazi
rocket technology
530
00:27:00,292 --> 00:27:03,417
would have been developed
by Wernher von Braun.
531
00:27:03,417 --> 00:27:05,875
Even though the Nazis
never unleashed Die Glocke
532
00:27:05,875 --> 00:27:07,125
on the battlefield,
533
00:27:07,125 --> 00:27:09,125
the Allies specifically
pick up Von Braun
534
00:27:09,125 --> 00:27:11,875
so that he can bring
his designs with him
535
00:27:11,875 --> 00:27:16,000
to an Army research base
at White Sands, New Mexico.
536
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,542
- The book describes
this incredible machine
537
00:27:18,542 --> 00:27:22,292
as a glowing, bell-shaped object
538
00:27:22,292 --> 00:27:26,708
not too dissimilar from the
shape of a flying saucer.
539
00:27:26,708 --> 00:27:31,042
- The similarities in shape,
size, color, and movement
540
00:27:31,042 --> 00:27:33,542
between Witkowski's
description of the Glocke
541
00:27:33,542 --> 00:27:35,875
and other witness reports
542
00:27:35,875 --> 00:27:38,833
lead to the theory that
Von Braun is actually
543
00:27:38,833 --> 00:27:40,792
developing and testing a
prototype of the Glocke
544
00:27:40,792 --> 00:27:43,375
for the US military in 1947.
545
00:27:43,375 --> 00:27:47,375
- Witkowski claimed that the
propulsion system for the Bell
546
00:27:47,375 --> 00:27:50,708
was something called Xerum 525.
547
00:27:50,708 --> 00:27:53,583
This is apparently
a purple fluid
548
00:27:53,583 --> 00:27:58,042
that's radioactive
and/or poisonous.
549
00:27:58,042 --> 00:27:59,583
- The night of the
Roswell incident,
550
00:27:59,583 --> 00:28:01,750
a number of eyewitnesses report
551
00:28:01,750 --> 00:28:04,000
that the objects
they saw in the sky
552
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,042
did glow with a kind
of blue-violet glow,
553
00:28:07,042 --> 00:28:11,333
which is the color
of the Xerum 525 gas.
554
00:28:11,333 --> 00:28:13,333
- So, according to this theory,
555
00:28:13,333 --> 00:28:15,125
it was flown from White Sands
556
00:28:15,125 --> 00:28:18,250
and it fell apart
during the test,
557
00:28:18,250 --> 00:28:22,167
and they found a material at
Roswell on the Foster Ranch.
558
00:28:22,167 --> 00:28:25,875
- Allegedly the bodies of the
aliens that were found there
559
00:28:25,875 --> 00:28:27,542
were actually human bodies,
560
00:28:27,542 --> 00:28:29,583
the bodies of test pilots
561
00:28:29,583 --> 00:28:31,750
who were selected
for their small size
562
00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:34,458
in order to fit
into the prototype.
563
00:28:34,458 --> 00:28:35,875
- To keep the crash
564
00:28:35,875 --> 00:28:39,042
of a Nazi-designed
super weapon a secret,
565
00:28:39,042 --> 00:28:40,667
they would need
to pretty quickly
566
00:28:40,667 --> 00:28:42,125
figure out a cover story.
567
00:28:42,125 --> 00:28:43,833
- Given the fact that there was
568
00:28:43,833 --> 00:28:47,917
this flying saucer alien
craze going on at the time,
569
00:28:47,917 --> 00:28:49,833
the government would've
thought that, "Hey,
570
00:28:49,833 --> 00:28:51,500
we could divert
your attention away
571
00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:52,708
from what's really going on,"
572
00:28:52,708 --> 00:28:54,042
and people could grab ahold
573
00:28:54,042 --> 00:28:56,875
to this ridiculous
theory of aliens.
574
00:28:57,875 --> 00:28:59,042
- According to this theory,
575
00:28:59,042 --> 00:29:01,208
the story was shared, however,
576
00:29:01,208 --> 00:29:04,250
without the approval of
higher ranked officials
577
00:29:04,250 --> 00:29:06,875
and so it had to be
quickly retracted,
578
00:29:06,875 --> 00:29:09,542
and that's why the story
of the weather balloon
579
00:29:09,542 --> 00:29:11,417
was substituted for it instead.
580
00:29:12,917 --> 00:29:15,917
When Project Paperclip was
finally declassified, however,
581
00:29:15,917 --> 00:29:18,500
there is no mention of The Bell
582
00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:21,208
or of the testing of
these propulsion systems,
583
00:29:21,208 --> 00:29:24,000
so either it never
really happened
584
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,417
or it was completely covered up.
585
00:29:31,833 --> 00:29:33,458
- [Laurence] In 2011,
586
00:29:33,458 --> 00:29:36,875
Pulitzer Prize-nominated
journalist Annie Jacobsen
587
00:29:36,875 --> 00:29:40,042
proposes a new theory
about the Roswell crash.
588
00:29:41,458 --> 00:29:45,000
- Annie Jacobsen writes
a book contending
589
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,708
that what crashed in
that field in Roswell
590
00:29:48,708 --> 00:29:52,375
was not in fact an
alien spacecraft,
591
00:29:52,375 --> 00:29:54,625
but a Soviet aircraft.
592
00:29:55,625 --> 00:30:00,250
- In 1947, the United States
is the only nation on Earth
593
00:30:00,250 --> 00:30:01,708
that has the bomb.
594
00:30:01,708 --> 00:30:05,042
The Soviets are
desperate to catch up
595
00:30:05,042 --> 00:30:08,292
and need to do something
to maybe close the gap.
596
00:30:08,292 --> 00:30:12,042
- Jacobsen's theory is that
the Soviets devise a plan
597
00:30:12,042 --> 00:30:14,875
to make the Americans think
that they're under attack.
598
00:30:14,875 --> 00:30:17,083
[tense music]
599
00:30:19,875 --> 00:30:23,125
- Two German aerospace
engineers, the Horten brothers,
600
00:30:23,125 --> 00:30:26,125
had been part of a
program in Nazi Germany
601
00:30:26,125 --> 00:30:29,542
to try to create what we would
refer to as a flying wing.
602
00:30:29,542 --> 00:30:30,833
To the outside observer,
603
00:30:30,917 --> 00:30:35,417
it looks kind of like a
flat, almost oblong shape.
604
00:30:35,417 --> 00:30:37,375
What the flying wing does
605
00:30:37,375 --> 00:30:40,875
is tries to extend the
range of an aircraft.
606
00:30:40,875 --> 00:30:42,417
The Germans were convinced
607
00:30:42,417 --> 00:30:46,333
that if American cities were
threatened by German attack,
608
00:30:46,333 --> 00:30:48,375
then the Americans would
not have the stomach
609
00:30:48,375 --> 00:30:49,500
to continue the fight.
610
00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:53,875
- Jacobsen argues that in
the years after the war,
611
00:30:53,875 --> 00:30:56,917
the Horten brothers
went to the Soviet Union
612
00:30:56,917 --> 00:31:00,208
and began to design
new technology
613
00:31:00,208 --> 00:31:04,167
and work on projects
for Joseph Stalin.
614
00:31:04,167 --> 00:31:07,292
- The brothers come up
with this disc-shaped craft
615
00:31:07,292 --> 00:31:10,042
based on the plans
for their flying wing
616
00:31:10,042 --> 00:31:11,958
that is made of
high-tech materials
617
00:31:11,958 --> 00:31:15,958
that's really good at
evading radar detection.
618
00:31:15,958 --> 00:31:18,083
- [Laurence] According
to Jacobsen's theory,
619
00:31:18,083 --> 00:31:22,542
Joseph Stalin saw another
potential use for this aircraft.
620
00:31:22,542 --> 00:31:25,917
- They want to develop nuclear
technology of their own
621
00:31:25,917 --> 00:31:29,917
so that they can counter
American world domination.
622
00:31:29,917 --> 00:31:33,042
- This plot is meant
to, as the theory goes,
623
00:31:33,042 --> 00:31:35,292
buy Joseph Stalin more time,
624
00:31:35,292 --> 00:31:37,792
and Russian scientists more time
625
00:31:37,792 --> 00:31:40,375
to develop their atomic weapons.
626
00:31:40,375 --> 00:31:44,958
- Stalin comes up with this plan
to distract the US military
627
00:31:44,958 --> 00:31:47,208
by staging this fake invasion.
628
00:31:47,208 --> 00:31:50,042
- Americans will
be so freaked out
629
00:31:50,042 --> 00:31:53,542
and disturbed by
the idea of a UFO
630
00:31:53,542 --> 00:31:56,458
that it will distract
the American people,
631
00:31:56,458 --> 00:31:57,833
the American government,
632
00:31:57,833 --> 00:32:02,292
and stop them from continuing
on with their atomic program.
633
00:32:02,292 --> 00:32:04,958
- There is precedence
for pandemonium
634
00:32:04,958 --> 00:32:08,458
being spurred by a
supposed alien invasion.
635
00:32:08,458 --> 00:32:11,500
In 1938, there was
a radio reading
636
00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:14,167
of Orson Welles' "The
War of the Worlds"
637
00:32:14,167 --> 00:32:17,667
which was so convincing
that people actually thought
638
00:32:17,667 --> 00:32:20,000
we were being invaded by aliens.
639
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,875
- Joseph Stalin is
pretty convinced
640
00:32:21,875 --> 00:32:25,333
that the American
public is gullible
641
00:32:25,333 --> 00:32:27,958
and he's willing to authorize
642
00:32:27,958 --> 00:32:29,833
even the most
harebrained schemes
643
00:32:29,833 --> 00:32:31,458
to try to convince the Americans
644
00:32:31,458 --> 00:32:34,708
of the possibility of
invasion from outer space.
645
00:32:34,708 --> 00:32:38,792
- As the theory goes, in the
first week of July 1947,
646
00:32:38,792 --> 00:32:43,875
Stalin orders the flying disc
to be flown into US airspace.
647
00:32:43,875 --> 00:32:47,208
- They decide that they're
going to stage this incident
648
00:32:47,208 --> 00:32:50,333
in the southwestern part
of the United States
649
00:32:50,333 --> 00:32:53,208
because there are a lot
of bases in that area.
650
00:32:53,208 --> 00:32:56,542
- White Sands, Area 51, Roswell,
651
00:32:56,542 --> 00:32:57,708
these are all places
652
00:32:57,708 --> 00:32:59,708
where military technology
was being developed
653
00:32:59,708 --> 00:33:01,208
and where the Soviets hoped
654
00:33:01,208 --> 00:33:05,917
that they could distract
Americans from that technology.
655
00:33:05,917 --> 00:33:09,042
- We don't know how
this flying disc,
656
00:33:09,042 --> 00:33:11,958
if it was a Soviet
flying disc, crashed.
657
00:33:11,958 --> 00:33:13,125
Was it shot down?
658
00:33:13,125 --> 00:33:16,583
Did it crash of its own accord?
659
00:33:16,583 --> 00:33:18,375
But however it happened,
660
00:33:18,375 --> 00:33:22,167
the theory is that it
came down at Roswell.
661
00:33:22,167 --> 00:33:23,458
- And what's funny about this
662
00:33:23,458 --> 00:33:25,708
is that if Jacobsen's
theory is correct,
663
00:33:25,708 --> 00:33:28,333
then the original story
put out by the military
664
00:33:28,333 --> 00:33:31,042
saying that it was a flying
disc or flying saucer
665
00:33:31,042 --> 00:33:34,500
that was recovered, is
pretty much the true story.
666
00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:37,583
- Annie Jacobsen's theory
is this was all designed
667
00:33:37,583 --> 00:33:41,208
to sow as much
confusion as possible.
668
00:33:41,208 --> 00:33:46,125
But the military changed
their story within 24 hours,
669
00:33:46,125 --> 00:33:48,333
and this second
official explanation
670
00:33:48,333 --> 00:33:51,792
immediately scuppered
Stalin's plan
671
00:33:51,792 --> 00:33:53,542
because if it's a
weather balloon,
672
00:33:53,542 --> 00:33:55,792
clearly there's
gonna be no panic.
673
00:33:55,792 --> 00:33:58,542
Now to close that nuclear gap,
674
00:33:58,542 --> 00:34:03,333
Stalin's best bet then becomes
putting all the resources
675
00:34:03,333 --> 00:34:05,375
into developing the bomb,
676
00:34:05,375 --> 00:34:10,167
which the Soviet Union
actually does in 1949.
677
00:34:16,250 --> 00:34:18,333
- [Laurence] In 2017,
678
00:34:18,333 --> 00:34:22,167
an unexpected new theory about
the Roswell crash emerges,
679
00:34:22,167 --> 00:34:25,417
one that asks just how far
the US government might go
680
00:34:25,417 --> 00:34:28,750
to keep its edge
in the Cold War.
681
00:34:28,750 --> 00:34:30,083
- After World War II,
682
00:34:30,083 --> 00:34:33,375
the United States government
recognizes this need
683
00:34:33,375 --> 00:34:35,958
to keep tabs on
the Soviet Union,
684
00:34:35,958 --> 00:34:37,875
and the best way to do that
685
00:34:37,875 --> 00:34:42,917
is to develop high altitude,
reconnaissance aircraft.
686
00:34:42,917 --> 00:34:48,292
- There is no such thing as
artificial satellites in 1947,
687
00:34:48,292 --> 00:34:50,375
so what they needed was aircraft
688
00:34:50,375 --> 00:34:53,208
that can fly over
enemy defenses.
689
00:34:53,208 --> 00:34:57,208
- It became strategically
imperative for the United States
690
00:34:57,208 --> 00:35:02,000
to fly reconnaissance aircraft
at ever higher altitudes.
691
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,167
Prior to 1947,
692
00:35:04,167 --> 00:35:07,333
the highest altitude
anyone had ever flown at
693
00:35:07,333 --> 00:35:11,208
in a fixed-wing aircraft
was 58,000 feet.
694
00:35:11,208 --> 00:35:14,542
Mount Everest is
29,000 feet high,
695
00:35:14,542 --> 00:35:18,625
and most commercial
aircraft fly at 36,000 feet.
696
00:35:18,625 --> 00:35:22,792
You are talking significantly
above any of that.
697
00:35:22,792 --> 00:35:24,375
- And the higher you go,
698
00:35:24,375 --> 00:35:27,042
the density of the atmosphere
falls off exponentially
699
00:35:27,042 --> 00:35:29,708
so there's less and
less oxygen available.
700
00:35:29,708 --> 00:35:33,708
- So that creates all kinds
of challenges for the pilots.
701
00:35:33,708 --> 00:35:35,625
A lot of pilots pass out,
702
00:35:35,625 --> 00:35:38,750
lose consciousness sometimes
for minutes at a time.
703
00:35:38,750 --> 00:35:41,333
The US government was going
to have to run a lot of tests
704
00:35:41,333 --> 00:35:43,375
on how that would be possible.
705
00:35:43,375 --> 00:35:46,250
- There is a theory that
the United States Air Force
706
00:35:46,250 --> 00:35:48,917
was conducting human experiments
707
00:35:48,917 --> 00:35:52,333
using individuals who would
not be missed by society.
708
00:35:52,333 --> 00:35:54,625
[tense music]
709
00:35:56,458 --> 00:35:59,625
- In 2017, British
researcher Nick Redfern
710
00:35:59,625 --> 00:36:00,792
makes a connection
711
00:36:00,792 --> 00:36:02,208
between these high-altitude
weather balloons
712
00:36:02,208 --> 00:36:04,208
that were used for
these experiments
713
00:36:04,208 --> 00:36:06,292
and what fell out of
the sky at Roswell.
714
00:36:07,208 --> 00:36:09,375
- So it's Nick
Redfern's contention
715
00:36:09,375 --> 00:36:11,208
that the Air Force
is going to use
716
00:36:11,208 --> 00:36:13,583
these modified weather balloons
717
00:36:13,583 --> 00:36:16,917
to start testing how
the body responds
718
00:36:16,917 --> 00:36:19,958
to such extremely high altitude.
719
00:36:19,958 --> 00:36:21,917
- According to Redfern's theory,
720
00:36:21,917 --> 00:36:25,375
the people that were
being used in these tests
721
00:36:25,375 --> 00:36:28,375
were pulled from
asylums, prisons,
722
00:36:28,375 --> 00:36:31,583
and places where
no one would notice
723
00:36:31,583 --> 00:36:34,333
and no one would complain
about them being missing.
724
00:36:35,333 --> 00:36:39,708
- Redfern hypothesizes that
they attach these gondolas
725
00:36:39,708 --> 00:36:41,125
to the balloon
726
00:36:41,125 --> 00:36:44,333
and they put people
in the gondola
727
00:36:44,333 --> 00:36:49,083
whom they are forcing to
engage in this experiment.
728
00:36:49,083 --> 00:36:50,792
In the case of
the Roswell crash,
729
00:36:50,792 --> 00:36:53,875
one of these balloons
separated from the gondola
730
00:36:53,875 --> 00:36:56,875
and the balloon would've
crashed in one place,
731
00:36:56,875 --> 00:37:01,000
the gondola with the bodies of
the victims in another place.
732
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,958
- This would possibly explain
all the different elements
733
00:37:04,958 --> 00:37:06,417
of the Roswell crash.
734
00:37:06,417 --> 00:37:08,500
Some people saw bodies,
some people didn't.
735
00:37:08,500 --> 00:37:11,500
Some people saw
debris at this site
736
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:15,000
and others at a site
much further away.
737
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,500
You have two different crashes
of two very different things.
738
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:20,875
- According to Redfern,
739
00:37:20,875 --> 00:37:23,167
one of the individuals
that he interviewed
740
00:37:23,167 --> 00:37:24,375
worked at Fort Stanton,
741
00:37:24,375 --> 00:37:26,667
about 30 miles
away from Roswell,
742
00:37:26,667 --> 00:37:29,667
and claimed to have been
part of a recovery effort
743
00:37:29,667 --> 00:37:32,375
rushing a grievously
injured individual
744
00:37:32,375 --> 00:37:33,792
to the base facilities.
745
00:37:35,292 --> 00:37:37,375
- One person was
treated for injuries
746
00:37:37,375 --> 00:37:40,875
but apparently died
a week or so later.
747
00:37:40,875 --> 00:37:45,667
Is this where we have the
story of the Roswell survivor?
748
00:37:45,667 --> 00:37:49,542
- Redfern's theory has
some historic plausibility
749
00:37:49,542 --> 00:37:51,167
because there was a project
750
00:37:51,167 --> 00:37:53,375
where they did
experiments on people.
751
00:37:53,375 --> 00:37:55,042
The American
government conducted
752
00:37:55,042 --> 00:37:56,667
the famous Tuskegee experiment
753
00:37:56,667 --> 00:37:59,875
where men who were
tested to have syphilis
754
00:37:59,875 --> 00:38:01,917
were monitored instead
of being cured.
755
00:38:01,917 --> 00:38:03,750
They were used as test subjects.
756
00:38:03,750 --> 00:38:05,583
- By the time of
the Roswell crash,
757
00:38:05,583 --> 00:38:08,958
the world is hearing
these stories
758
00:38:08,958 --> 00:38:12,875
of concentration camp victims
being experimented on,
759
00:38:12,875 --> 00:38:16,208
and the idea that you
could experiment on people
760
00:38:16,208 --> 00:38:18,625
who weren't giving their consent
761
00:38:18,625 --> 00:38:22,542
was condemned and banned
by the Nuremberg Code.
762
00:38:22,542 --> 00:38:24,833
Certainly, the US
wouldn't want to be seen
763
00:38:24,833 --> 00:38:28,583
as engaging in the same
behavior as the Nazis.
764
00:38:28,583 --> 00:38:31,583
- Redfern alleges a
massive government coverup.
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00:38:31,583 --> 00:38:34,042
He claims that
government functionaries
766
00:38:34,042 --> 00:38:37,542
destroyed all of the records
and cremated the bodies
767
00:38:37,542 --> 00:38:40,375
as a means of covering
up the horrible research
768
00:38:40,375 --> 00:38:42,542
that was being carried out.
769
00:38:42,542 --> 00:38:44,042
- [Laurence] Like many
of the other theories
770
00:38:44,042 --> 00:38:48,917
around Roswell, this one
only raises more questions.
771
00:38:48,917 --> 00:38:51,333
- They would've used
adults in their tests,
772
00:38:51,333 --> 00:38:52,750
but people who saw the bodies
773
00:38:52,750 --> 00:38:54,708
claim that they
were child-sized.
774
00:38:54,708 --> 00:38:57,000
So that doesn't square
with Redfern's theory.
775
00:38:58,125 --> 00:38:59,375
- Whatever we believe,
776
00:38:59,375 --> 00:39:01,208
whether people are
skeptics or believers,
777
00:39:01,208 --> 00:39:05,250
Roswell is real,
something crashed.
778
00:39:05,250 --> 00:39:06,625
But the question is, what?
779
00:39:06,625 --> 00:39:08,792
It's not necessarily,
780
00:39:08,792 --> 00:39:12,458
as the military would like to
say on Roswell, case closed.
781
00:39:15,667 --> 00:39:18,042
- Today, the town of
Roswell has become
782
00:39:18,042 --> 00:39:21,958
a thriving tourist
destination for UFO fanatics,
783
00:39:21,958 --> 00:39:25,042
but that's only one of
the possible explanations
784
00:39:25,042 --> 00:39:28,708
for what happened at Foster
Ranch over 80 miles away.
785
00:39:29,708 --> 00:39:33,542
Whether this was the crash site
of a top secret test flight,
786
00:39:33,542 --> 00:39:35,417
a Cold War scheme,
787
00:39:35,417 --> 00:39:37,542
or something truly unearthly,
788
00:39:38,625 --> 00:39:41,542
most of the eyewitnesses
have long since passed away
789
00:39:41,542 --> 00:39:44,125
and the search for
answers continues.
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00:39:45,250 --> 00:39:46,875
I'm Laurence Fishburne.
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00:39:46,875 --> 00:39:50,542
Thank you for watching
History's Greatest Mysteries.
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00:39:50,542 --> 00:39:52,875
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