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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,508 --> 00:00:11,845 Back in 2010, it was Grammy weekend, 2 00:00:14,681 --> 00:00:16,266 Here we go. 3 00:00:16,349 --> 00:00:19,686 And we were doing a photo shoot with Cas during the day. 4 00:00:20,979 --> 00:00:22,856 Puff and Cassie were dating. 5 00:00:24,691 --> 00:00:26,067 There was a party. 6 00:00:26,192 --> 00:00:28,862 Diddy, I love you, Diddy! 7 00:00:28,987 --> 00:00:32,407 And she was staying at the Beverly Hills Hotel. 8 00:00:32,532 --> 00:00:35,535 The Beverly Hills Hotel is like a one bedroom suite. 9 00:00:38,705 --> 00:00:40,832 I fall asleep on the couch because I don't go out. 10 00:00:41,875 --> 00:00:44,544 And he storms in, "Where the is she?" 11 00:00:49,966 --> 00:00:52,052 I like, wake up all of a sudden 12 00:00:52,177 --> 00:00:55,555 like a... like what the? Who? Who let... 13 00:00:55,638 --> 00:00:56,806 "Who are you talking about?" 14 00:00:58,308 --> 00:01:00,226 And then they go into the room. 15 00:01:01,811 --> 00:01:03,563 Shuts the door. 16 00:01:03,688 --> 00:01:05,368 All I hear is, "Get the out of here. 17 00:01:05,398 --> 00:01:06,518 Get the out of here." 18 00:01:09,402 --> 00:01:11,821 He's like, on a rage. 19 00:01:12,489 --> 00:01:13,656 He's being Puff. 20 00:01:15,742 --> 00:01:17,202 And at this point 21 00:01:17,911 --> 00:01:20,455 I'm just thinking of her safety. 22 00:01:20,580 --> 00:01:23,333 And so I'm packing her stuff up. 23 00:01:24,375 --> 00:01:28,296 Once he leaves, I see the aftermath on Cassie. 24 00:01:28,421 --> 00:01:32,592 She shows knots on her head, bruised eye, busted lip. 25 00:01:32,675 --> 00:01:33,927 It was horrific. 26 00:01:34,052 --> 00:01:35,845 And so all I can think of was, 27 00:01:35,929 --> 00:01:37,347 "We need to get back to my house. 28 00:01:37,430 --> 00:01:39,030 You need to get the out of here." 29 00:01:41,101 --> 00:01:43,603 We can't call the police. We can't go to the hospital. 30 00:01:44,729 --> 00:01:45,897 We're scared of Puff. 31 00:01:47,524 --> 00:01:48,942 We're always scared of him. 32 00:01:50,693 --> 00:01:53,780 If we call the police what would happen? 33 00:01:53,905 --> 00:01:57,826 He's a very powerful person in the business, 34 00:01:57,951 --> 00:02:00,787 and he can do things that will to make you go away. 35 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,958 And many people are afraid of him 'til this day. 36 00:02:05,041 --> 00:02:06,668 So what were we supposed to do? 37 00:02:06,793 --> 00:02:10,130 We just had to, like, fix whatever was happening at that moment. 38 00:02:10,213 --> 00:02:12,590 And that's kind of like how the business is. 39 00:02:14,759 --> 00:02:17,178 I called my friend who's a doctor, 40 00:02:17,303 --> 00:02:19,514 and I'm like, "You have to take care of Cas 41 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,057 'cause this is not okay." 42 00:02:21,141 --> 00:02:22,642 You have to be a witness to this 43 00:02:22,767 --> 00:02:25,145 because we can't call anyone. 44 00:02:27,397 --> 00:02:30,316 But I felt like this has happened before 45 00:02:30,441 --> 00:02:34,028 because she was so nonchalant about it. 46 00:02:34,154 --> 00:02:37,323 Cassie and I never spoke about that incident after. 47 00:02:38,575 --> 00:02:40,577 It's like family business. 48 00:02:40,660 --> 00:02:42,120 We just don't talk about it. 49 00:02:45,165 --> 00:02:48,501 What I witnessed was in 2010s, 50 00:02:48,626 --> 00:02:53,548 and then in 2024, I watched the CNN video 51 00:02:53,673 --> 00:02:55,925 and I was completely triggered 52 00:02:56,676 --> 00:02:58,178 because I did not know 53 00:02:58,261 --> 00:03:00,763 that this was going on for all these years. 54 00:03:12,358 --> 00:03:14,478 Tonight, music mogul Sean Diddy Combs... 55 00:03:14,527 --> 00:03:15,862 Sean Diddy Combs... 56 00:03:15,945 --> 00:03:18,865 Sean Diddy Combs facing a slew of allegations, 57 00:03:18,948 --> 00:03:21,034 including rape and sex trafficking, 58 00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:23,578 in a stunning new civil lawsuit 59 00:03:23,703 --> 00:03:26,289 filed by his longtime partner, singer Cassie. 60 00:03:26,372 --> 00:03:28,791 Sean Diddy Combs is now the subject 61 00:03:28,875 --> 00:03:31,211 of a federal criminal investigation. 62 00:03:31,336 --> 00:03:34,547 FBI agents raided his homes in Los Angeles and Miami. 63 00:03:34,672 --> 00:03:35,858 Sean Diddy Combs, 64 00:03:35,882 --> 00:03:38,092 has been arrested after a grand jury 65 00:03:38,218 --> 00:03:40,220 indicted the music mogul. 66 00:03:40,345 --> 00:03:42,639 Cassie, coming forward was the tipping point. 67 00:03:43,890 --> 00:03:45,492 Several new accusers coming forward 68 00:03:45,516 --> 00:03:46,516 against Sean Diddy Combs. 69 00:03:46,559 --> 00:03:47,870 Very serious allegations, 70 00:03:47,894 --> 00:03:50,730 rape, physical abuse and sex trafficking. 71 00:03:50,855 --> 00:03:54,067 He was very good at standing in the limelight 72 00:03:54,150 --> 00:03:57,237 without us actually taking a look deeper 73 00:03:57,362 --> 00:04:00,240 and seeing who he is and what he is about. 74 00:04:00,323 --> 00:04:03,576 Thing about hip hop, it's not just the music, it's a lifestyle. 75 00:04:03,660 --> 00:04:04,970 Combs has built an empire. 76 00:04:04,994 --> 00:04:06,579 There's his Sean John's fashion line, 77 00:04:06,704 --> 00:04:10,667 his Ciroc vodka and the TV network he founded. 78 00:04:10,750 --> 00:04:13,127 He didn't change to adapt to the world. 79 00:04:13,253 --> 00:04:15,338 He changed the world to adapt to him. 80 00:04:16,714 --> 00:04:19,008 Here he is a shining example 81 00:04:19,092 --> 00:04:22,095 of what he likes to term black excellence. 82 00:04:23,721 --> 00:04:25,932 Meanwhile, there's all this violence 83 00:04:26,015 --> 00:04:28,768 and trauma happening in the background. 84 00:04:29,894 --> 00:04:32,105 I realized I wasn't the only one. 85 00:04:32,230 --> 00:04:35,942 I have a one of one story that no one else has. 86 00:04:36,025 --> 00:04:37,485 That reckoning, it's coming. 87 00:04:37,610 --> 00:04:39,445 Everybody is demanding to know. 88 00:04:39,529 --> 00:04:40,697 How far did this go? 89 00:04:41,447 --> 00:04:42,447 Time is up. 90 00:05:11,602 --> 00:05:13,563 Sean "Puffy" Combs' power 91 00:05:13,646 --> 00:05:17,191 has led to one of the most successful careers 92 00:05:17,317 --> 00:05:19,068 in the history of American pop. 93 00:05:20,945 --> 00:05:22,155 And it has led to some 94 00:05:22,280 --> 00:05:24,824 really, really, really awful other things. 95 00:05:29,329 --> 00:05:31,497 I've been knowing Combs for just about 96 00:05:31,581 --> 00:05:34,500 the entirety of my career 97 00:05:34,625 --> 00:05:37,337 as a journalist and as an editor. 98 00:05:37,462 --> 00:05:41,174 I was the first woman editor in chief of Vibe magazine. 99 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:44,844 A large reason for me sharing my story 100 00:05:44,969 --> 00:05:46,262 with everyone today, 101 00:05:48,014 --> 00:05:49,974 It's because it's my duty. 102 00:05:51,476 --> 00:05:55,104 And I'm also sharing it because of my unique position 103 00:05:55,980 --> 00:05:57,940 in music history. 104 00:05:58,816 --> 00:06:00,485 This is where I'm supposed to be. 105 00:06:05,615 --> 00:06:06,991 It was very difficult 106 00:06:07,700 --> 00:06:10,870 to work in the music media, 107 00:06:10,953 --> 00:06:13,289 without having to deal with 108 00:06:13,373 --> 00:06:16,125 or work with or hang out with 109 00:06:16,209 --> 00:06:20,546 or negotiate with Sean "Puffy" Combs, was impossible. 110 00:06:27,053 --> 00:06:29,555 The first time I had a real conversation with him 111 00:06:29,639 --> 00:06:32,975 was a cover shoot for a vibe. 112 00:06:33,059 --> 00:06:36,229 And that would have been right around September 1997. 113 00:06:37,397 --> 00:06:39,607 It was to be the December-January 114 00:06:39,732 --> 00:06:42,443 double issue of Vibe magazine. 115 00:06:42,568 --> 00:06:43,986 Everybody was at the photo shoot, 116 00:06:44,070 --> 00:06:45,905 a bunch of people from Vibe, 117 00:06:45,988 --> 00:06:48,574 a bunch of people from the Bad Boy universe. 118 00:06:50,827 --> 00:06:53,121 The idea was to get Mr. Combs 119 00:06:53,246 --> 00:06:55,748 into some angel wings. 120 00:06:57,417 --> 00:06:58,876 After the shoot, 121 00:07:00,169 --> 00:07:02,588 Mr. Combs wanted to see the covers 122 00:07:02,713 --> 00:07:04,674 before they were published. 123 00:07:04,757 --> 00:07:07,301 It was policy for us not to show covers 124 00:07:07,427 --> 00:07:09,178 to anyone before they were published. 125 00:07:11,180 --> 00:07:13,599 He called me at my office. 126 00:07:16,936 --> 00:07:18,855 I told him again, 127 00:07:18,938 --> 00:07:22,608 We don't show the covers, we don't share the story. 128 00:07:24,110 --> 00:07:26,529 I told him that I wouldn't be making an exception. 129 00:07:27,947 --> 00:07:30,616 And he said that he would see me dead in the trunk 130 00:07:30,700 --> 00:07:32,702 if I did not show it to him. 131 00:07:38,749 --> 00:07:41,878 I said to him, "You need to take that back." 132 00:07:44,046 --> 00:07:45,406 And he said something to the effect 133 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:47,467 because, you know, he wasn't taking shit back. 134 00:07:51,095 --> 00:07:54,140 So then I said, I'm calling my attorney. 135 00:07:54,265 --> 00:07:56,517 And my attorney called him to say that 136 00:07:56,642 --> 00:08:00,813 if he didn't immediately fax over an apology, 137 00:08:00,938 --> 00:08:03,483 My attorney was going to reach out to law enforcement. 138 00:08:03,608 --> 00:08:07,737 And I think it took about 90 minutes to two hours 139 00:08:07,820 --> 00:08:10,781 and I received that faxed apology. 140 00:08:16,496 --> 00:08:19,499 What I've only recently come to realize 141 00:08:19,582 --> 00:08:22,210 through members of the staff. 142 00:08:22,335 --> 00:08:26,839 At that time was that he had, actually, 143 00:08:26,964 --> 00:08:31,177 in the days before come up to the Vibe offices, 144 00:08:31,260 --> 00:08:34,347 with two tough guys looking for me. 145 00:08:35,515 --> 00:08:37,391 In order for my safety 146 00:08:37,517 --> 00:08:43,064 and in order for the magazine pages to remain intact, 147 00:08:43,189 --> 00:08:45,733 I was shuttled from office to office 148 00:08:45,858 --> 00:08:48,194 until the coast was clear. 149 00:08:50,863 --> 00:08:52,698 And waited outside. 150 00:08:52,782 --> 00:08:54,116 Standing on the corner, 151 00:08:54,700 --> 00:08:56,369 with the proofs, 152 00:08:56,494 --> 00:08:57,954 the pages of the magazine 153 00:08:58,037 --> 00:09:00,706 that were being prepared to go to print. 154 00:09:02,542 --> 00:09:04,877 And then my managing editor came down 155 00:09:05,002 --> 00:09:06,629 and got the pages from me 156 00:09:06,712 --> 00:09:08,881 and put me in a cab to Brooklyn. 157 00:09:12,009 --> 00:09:13,553 But the thing is, 158 00:09:13,636 --> 00:09:15,888 I'm sitting right here right now. 159 00:09:16,013 --> 00:09:19,392 I have no memory of any of that happening. 160 00:09:25,189 --> 00:09:26,732 When our research chief 161 00:09:28,901 --> 00:09:30,695 was telling me this story. 162 00:09:31,737 --> 00:09:33,072 I was just like... 163 00:09:35,241 --> 00:09:37,702 Literally like... 164 00:09:40,413 --> 00:09:42,582 I like... I don't remember I was telling her. 165 00:09:43,583 --> 00:09:44,851 And she said, "Of course you don't. 166 00:09:44,875 --> 00:09:46,711 You blocked it out. You were terrified." 167 00:09:49,422 --> 00:09:50,923 Because I don't remember it right now. 168 00:10:01,267 --> 00:10:03,227 It's hard to look back. 169 00:10:04,186 --> 00:10:05,346 I continued to work with him. 170 00:10:05,396 --> 00:10:07,106 I continued to be cordial with him 171 00:10:07,940 --> 00:10:11,611 to be invited to parties and go. 172 00:10:11,736 --> 00:10:15,281 Sometimes it's very hard not to feel complicit. 173 00:10:17,116 --> 00:10:21,120 I wish that thing's were different. 174 00:10:22,622 --> 00:10:24,040 Is he an angel? Is he a devil? 175 00:10:25,082 --> 00:10:26,959 It's a question that I've had 176 00:10:27,043 --> 00:10:29,795 since we put him on the cover, in the wings. 177 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,298 I didn't know, but we might know now. 178 00:10:38,638 --> 00:10:39,805 And you hate to see it. 179 00:10:43,934 --> 00:10:47,063 As a reporter, Danyel's story really resonated with me. 180 00:10:47,647 --> 00:10:49,899 What's really unusual 181 00:10:49,982 --> 00:10:53,235 is the extent that Diddy went to. 182 00:10:54,403 --> 00:10:57,406 He was determined to try to bully her, 183 00:10:57,490 --> 00:11:00,993 and this was relatively early in his career. 184 00:11:01,077 --> 00:11:02,995 And so it definitely appears 185 00:11:03,079 --> 00:11:06,332 that Diddy continued to get more brazen 186 00:11:06,415 --> 00:11:09,043 We now know behind the curtain 187 00:11:09,168 --> 00:11:10,711 there were demons. 188 00:11:10,836 --> 00:11:13,005 But you can't escape your demons that easily. 189 00:11:17,510 --> 00:11:19,550 When I think of Puffy, I think of New York. 190 00:11:20,221 --> 00:11:23,224 Puffy is the Horatio Alger, 191 00:11:23,307 --> 00:11:25,726 you know, up from nothing to something. 192 00:11:25,810 --> 00:11:27,228 The rags to riches story. 193 00:11:28,229 --> 00:11:29,647 Diddy was born in Harlem 194 00:11:29,730 --> 00:11:33,109 {\an3}to his mother, Janice, and his father, Melvin. 195 00:11:33,234 --> 00:11:35,236 Pump's mother, Janice Combs Baby, 196 00:11:36,404 --> 00:11:39,657 could dance, could dress sharp as a attack. 197 00:11:39,740 --> 00:11:43,661 Fly, hustler, go get it, ambitious. 198 00:11:43,744 --> 00:11:47,540 I think of her as the queen of that energy. 199 00:11:51,001 --> 00:11:53,921 Unfortunately, his father, Melvin, passed. 200 00:11:54,046 --> 00:11:55,923 Sean didn't have any memories of Melvin. 201 00:11:56,006 --> 00:11:58,092 He might have had one or two. 202 00:11:58,217 --> 00:12:01,137 Melvin died when he was a toddler. 203 00:12:01,262 --> 00:12:03,639 Diddy has often spoke about the loss 204 00:12:03,764 --> 00:12:05,433 of a father figure in his life. 205 00:12:05,516 --> 00:12:08,936 Just this desire to know who Melvin was. 206 00:12:10,229 --> 00:12:12,690 When Combs talks about his father, 207 00:12:12,773 --> 00:12:15,359 you can tell in his voice in his face 208 00:12:15,443 --> 00:12:17,278 that he really mourns the loss 209 00:12:17,361 --> 00:12:20,281 of not having his father in his life. 210 00:12:20,364 --> 00:12:21,758 You know, I'm saying, I always wanted to hear, 211 00:12:21,782 --> 00:12:22,950 like the sound of his voice. 212 00:12:24,243 --> 00:12:26,829 From the beginning, I've always had, 213 00:12:26,954 --> 00:12:28,247 like, tragedy around me. 214 00:12:30,458 --> 00:12:32,042 Janice was a single mother 215 00:12:32,126 --> 00:12:34,044 and had to make it work. 216 00:12:34,128 --> 00:12:37,506 Janis said, "Okay, we're moving out to Mount Vernon." 217 00:12:37,631 --> 00:12:39,800 That suburban area that black people 218 00:12:39,925 --> 00:12:41,635 with some money, middle class, 219 00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:43,262 are able to move to. 220 00:12:45,264 --> 00:12:47,975 I met Sean when I was six years old. 221 00:12:48,100 --> 00:12:50,811 And we live 13 steps from each other. One staircase. 222 00:12:53,063 --> 00:12:54,231 I didn't have a sibling. 223 00:12:55,608 --> 00:12:56,817 So that's where we became. 224 00:12:58,486 --> 00:12:59,766 First impression of meeting him. 225 00:12:59,820 --> 00:13:01,530 This kid is different. 226 00:13:01,655 --> 00:13:03,824 He was a young boy dressed like an older man, 227 00:13:04,325 --> 00:13:05,576 tailor made, 228 00:13:05,659 --> 00:13:08,162 and I didn't know kids this small 229 00:13:09,079 --> 00:13:11,040 could really like beat his fly. 230 00:13:11,165 --> 00:13:13,209 So when he stepped outside, 231 00:13:13,334 --> 00:13:16,086 other kids looked at him like, "What's that? 232 00:13:17,922 --> 00:13:19,632 He got everything we don't have. 233 00:13:21,175 --> 00:13:22,426 And people don't like that. 234 00:13:23,594 --> 00:13:25,846 So now he's a product of bullying. 235 00:13:25,930 --> 00:13:28,682 He had a presence of somebody you could just roll over, 236 00:13:28,766 --> 00:13:30,476 and that's what people tried to do. 237 00:13:30,976 --> 00:13:32,686 Simple as that. 238 00:13:32,770 --> 00:13:35,022 At an early age it was instilled in him 239 00:13:35,147 --> 00:13:36,774 that he can't be seen as weak 240 00:13:36,857 --> 00:13:38,859 and the only way to respond to weakness 241 00:13:38,984 --> 00:13:41,570 {\an1}or this idea that you're being perceived as weak 242 00:13:41,695 --> 00:13:43,614 is to respond with force. 243 00:13:43,697 --> 00:13:46,784 My mother was I guess raising me for the real world. 244 00:13:46,867 --> 00:13:48,702 She's always told me if somebody hit me, 245 00:13:48,786 --> 00:13:50,579 make sure I hit them back harder. 246 00:13:50,704 --> 00:13:52,289 Make sure they never hit me again 247 00:13:52,373 --> 00:13:55,042 and make sure I them up. 248 00:13:55,167 --> 00:13:58,254 Your mom's made sure. "Listen, don't come here talking about you got beat up. 249 00:13:58,379 --> 00:14:01,090 Don't come here talking about somebody who took something from you. 250 00:14:01,215 --> 00:14:02,359 I don't want to hear none of that. 251 00:14:02,383 --> 00:14:03,801 Go get it back. 252 00:14:03,884 --> 00:14:06,011 You can't come in my house until it's right." 253 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:07,759 So he had to make a choice. 254 00:14:07,805 --> 00:14:08,806 He had to man up. 255 00:14:08,889 --> 00:14:10,169 So I'm gonna make more than you. 256 00:14:10,224 --> 00:14:11,058 I'm gonna do more than you. 257 00:14:11,183 --> 00:14:12,536 I'm gonna be more successful than you. 258 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:13,727 So I could call the shots. 259 00:14:15,020 --> 00:14:16,230 He was groomed for success. 260 00:14:18,232 --> 00:14:21,569 I was really inspired by him growing up. 261 00:14:21,694 --> 00:14:24,113 You see this guy? He comes from Harlem. 262 00:14:24,238 --> 00:14:26,574 He puts hip hop on the global map. 263 00:14:26,699 --> 00:14:29,994 Then he grows into a business mogul. 264 00:14:30,077 --> 00:14:34,123 And so before all of these issues came to light, 265 00:14:34,248 --> 00:14:35,165 there's not a negative thing 266 00:14:35,249 --> 00:14:37,084 that I would have said about Diddy. 267 00:14:37,209 --> 00:14:40,754 This version of Sean Combs that we're seeing today, 268 00:14:40,838 --> 00:14:43,924 is a complete departure from this image 269 00:14:44,049 --> 00:14:46,427 that he curated and built himself up. 270 00:14:48,387 --> 00:14:52,474 I first began covering Sean "Puffy" Combs 271 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:57,396 {\an3}right after Cassie filed her lawsuit back in 2023. 272 00:14:58,606 --> 00:15:01,483 The biggest question for me was, 273 00:15:01,609 --> 00:15:02,943 "Has this happened before?" 274 00:15:05,112 --> 00:15:09,116 {\an1}And as we began investigating and speaking with more people, 275 00:15:09,199 --> 00:15:13,871 we uncovered a history of abusive behavior. 276 00:15:13,954 --> 00:15:16,123 That dates back to Diddy's days 277 00:15:16,206 --> 00:15:17,374 at Howard University. 278 00:15:19,585 --> 00:15:22,713 There just seems so much more to the story. 279 00:15:23,631 --> 00:15:26,008 Take one mark. 280 00:15:26,133 --> 00:15:28,636 I was a student at Howard University in the late 80s, 281 00:15:28,719 --> 00:15:31,388 and I am here today to share what I know. 282 00:15:34,558 --> 00:15:37,811 Sean "Puffy" Combs was well known on campus. 283 00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:40,147 He would ride on the back of cars, 284 00:15:40,230 --> 00:15:42,149 throwing out fliers for parties. 285 00:15:42,274 --> 00:15:44,234 If he wanted to go to the hottest party, 286 00:15:44,318 --> 00:15:47,821 then you saw and heard Sean "Puffy" Combs. 287 00:15:49,823 --> 00:15:52,201 I am absolutely nervous 288 00:15:52,326 --> 00:15:55,120 about sharing what I've seen him do 289 00:15:56,163 --> 00:15:57,790 to another human being. 290 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,087 He's powerful, and he's scary. 291 00:16:08,133 --> 00:16:12,680 This event honestly is so vivid to me. 292 00:16:12,805 --> 00:16:18,978 The night began with me in my dorm room. 293 00:16:20,688 --> 00:16:23,857 We heard someone yelling and screaming, 294 00:16:24,942 --> 00:16:28,946 So we pushed up the window just enough 295 00:16:29,029 --> 00:16:31,949 to get a little idea of what was going on. 296 00:16:33,117 --> 00:16:35,536 We saw that it was Sean "Puffy" Combs, 297 00:16:36,203 --> 00:16:37,204 a fellow student, 298 00:16:38,330 --> 00:16:40,040 and he was screaming. 299 00:16:40,165 --> 00:16:41,250 Get your ass downstairs. 300 00:16:41,375 --> 00:16:43,752 Come downstairs, right now! 301 00:16:43,877 --> 00:16:47,881 And he had taken his belt off and he was whipping the wall. 302 00:16:49,466 --> 00:16:50,801 Mad, angry. 303 00:16:52,136 --> 00:16:55,806 They were connected somehow, romantically, 304 00:16:55,889 --> 00:16:59,059 and when she came downstairs, timidly and scared 305 00:16:59,184 --> 00:17:02,062 and really not knowing what to do, 306 00:17:02,187 --> 00:17:03,731 he started beating on her, 307 00:17:03,814 --> 00:17:05,190 whipping her with that belt, 308 00:17:05,733 --> 00:17:07,609 and she's taking it. 309 00:17:07,735 --> 00:17:11,572 Now we're involved because now he's abusing her. 310 00:17:11,697 --> 00:17:13,407 So we're yelling. "Get off of her! 311 00:17:13,532 --> 00:17:14,825 Stop hitting on her! 312 00:17:14,908 --> 00:17:16,035 Leave her alone!" 313 00:17:16,702 --> 00:17:17,745 And he's yelling back. 314 00:17:17,828 --> 00:17:19,913 "- Mind your business! - Mind your business." 315 00:17:19,997 --> 00:17:21,790 But we're yelling back! 316 00:17:21,915 --> 00:17:24,418 "- Get off of her! - Leave her the alone!" 317 00:17:26,420 --> 00:17:31,425 He pushes her back into the doorway of the dorm. 318 00:17:31,550 --> 00:17:33,594 We don't know what's going on in that space. 319 00:17:34,094 --> 00:17:35,179 We can't see. 320 00:17:37,097 --> 00:17:40,809 Whatever he's doing, takes a few minutes before he actually 321 00:17:40,934 --> 00:17:42,019 stops whatever he's doing, 322 00:17:42,102 --> 00:17:45,230 and then he leaves alone. 323 00:17:47,941 --> 00:17:50,235 And she follows out a little bit behind that. 324 00:17:54,698 --> 00:17:56,784 Our 18-year-old selves yelled for her, 325 00:17:59,453 --> 00:18:00,788 Maybe could have stopped it. 326 00:18:02,122 --> 00:18:03,600 Maybe we should have called the police 327 00:18:03,624 --> 00:18:05,125 called our dorm mother. 328 00:18:06,418 --> 00:18:07,795 Got somebody else involved. 329 00:18:07,878 --> 00:18:09,296 The front desk was downstairs. 330 00:18:09,421 --> 00:18:10,464 They didn't do anything. 331 00:18:11,465 --> 00:18:14,468 Nobody really actually came to her rescue 332 00:18:14,551 --> 00:18:16,303 like we probably should have. 333 00:18:18,806 --> 00:18:21,892 It's very important to tell that young woman's story 334 00:18:22,810 --> 00:18:26,271 because he was never held accountable. 335 00:18:27,940 --> 00:18:30,984 Instead of becoming tarnished in any way, 336 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:34,321 his time at Howard becomes a key part of his mythology. 337 00:18:34,446 --> 00:18:36,156 Howard didn't just change my life. 338 00:18:36,281 --> 00:18:38,700 It entered my soul and entered my heart 339 00:18:38,826 --> 00:18:41,495 and entered my being my spirit. 340 00:18:41,578 --> 00:18:45,999 When he got an honorary doctorate, no less. 341 00:18:46,083 --> 00:18:48,210 I was a little bit hot about that. 342 00:18:48,335 --> 00:18:51,755 How would you honor someone like that? 343 00:18:51,839 --> 00:18:53,507 And even though I only completed 344 00:18:53,590 --> 00:18:55,384 two years here at Howard, 345 00:18:55,509 --> 00:18:57,845 It was the greatest two years of my life. 346 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,099 Howard is where Combs saw firsthand 347 00:19:02,182 --> 00:19:04,560 how much sway he had with people. 348 00:19:04,685 --> 00:19:07,104 So despite what people saw on campus, 349 00:19:07,187 --> 00:19:10,274 he's still able to succeed. 350 00:19:14,153 --> 00:19:15,153 Like it or not, 351 00:19:15,195 --> 00:19:16,488 rap is here to stay. 352 00:19:18,657 --> 00:19:19,657 In the late 80s, 353 00:19:19,700 --> 00:19:21,785 when hip hop was growing, 354 00:19:21,869 --> 00:19:24,371 ♪ Here we go, here we go Here we, here we, here we go ♪ 355 00:19:25,956 --> 00:19:27,708 That's the exact same time 356 00:19:28,375 --> 00:19:30,085 that Sean "Puffy" Combs 357 00:19:30,210 --> 00:19:32,880 was figuring out who he was going to be. 358 00:19:35,674 --> 00:19:36,466 I was working with some artists 359 00:19:36,550 --> 00:19:38,927 at a company called Uptown Records. 360 00:19:39,052 --> 00:19:41,722 I heard that there was a young guy 361 00:19:41,805 --> 00:19:45,475 helping some of the artists to define themselves. 362 00:19:46,643 --> 00:19:49,146 His name was Sean "Puffy" Combs. 363 00:19:49,229 --> 00:19:54,109 Uptown Records was one of the early black labels. 364 00:19:54,234 --> 00:19:56,403 And Andre Harrell was at the helm. 365 00:19:56,528 --> 00:19:59,156 I can understand why Puffy wanted to work with them 366 00:19:59,239 --> 00:20:01,408 because they were the it back then. 367 00:20:02,367 --> 00:20:03,911 And Puffy dropped out of school 368 00:20:03,994 --> 00:20:06,747 to follow his dream. 369 00:20:06,872 --> 00:20:09,583 {\an1}When he did his internship at Uptown, 370 00:20:09,666 --> 00:20:12,961 he clearly had a ton of ideas. 371 00:20:13,086 --> 00:20:16,590 And so they gave him an A and R job. 372 00:20:17,591 --> 00:20:19,968 Mary J. Blige, who had been at uptown 373 00:20:20,093 --> 00:20:22,012 and had not been catching on. 374 00:20:22,095 --> 00:20:23,575 They did not know what to do with her. 375 00:20:24,181 --> 00:20:25,307 Here comes Puff, 376 00:20:25,432 --> 00:20:28,769 and he's putting all these pieces in place around her. 377 00:20:28,852 --> 00:20:32,940 Also shaping the image he gives Mary J. Blige 378 00:20:33,065 --> 00:20:35,776 hip hop beats to sing under "Real Love." 379 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:39,112 Was this massive hit? 380 00:20:39,238 --> 00:20:42,366 ♪ Real love ♪ 381 00:20:42,449 --> 00:20:46,119 ♪ I'm searching for a real love ♪ 382 00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:48,872 And they called her the queen of hip hop soul. 383 00:20:48,956 --> 00:20:52,918 But as much as we loved Mary, it was clear right away. 384 00:20:53,794 --> 00:20:55,295 Puff is at the forefront 385 00:20:55,420 --> 00:20:58,006 of sonically making that happen. 386 00:20:58,131 --> 00:21:00,509 Puff Daddy, A and R Director from Uptown. 387 00:21:00,634 --> 00:21:01,903 - Let's go! What's up? - My brother. Let 'em know... 388 00:21:01,927 --> 00:21:04,680 Let 'em know how... How easy or how difficult 389 00:21:04,805 --> 00:21:07,057 or how flat or how complicated 390 00:21:07,140 --> 00:21:08,809 it was to put this jam together? 391 00:21:08,892 --> 00:21:12,092 Really, it was no problem because all my black brothers and sisters came together. 392 00:21:13,313 --> 00:21:15,691 You start to see the rise of Puff 393 00:21:15,816 --> 00:21:18,026 in the sort of hip hop world, 394 00:21:18,151 --> 00:21:20,821 and he's also doing party promotion. 395 00:21:20,904 --> 00:21:22,239 Sean says, "Shoot. 396 00:21:22,322 --> 00:21:24,324 I'm gonna have a celebrity basketball game 397 00:21:24,408 --> 00:21:26,493 with all the famous people playing 398 00:21:26,618 --> 00:21:29,371 I'm gonna go convince Heavy D to be my partner in it, 399 00:21:29,496 --> 00:21:31,665 and we're gonna do it at City College." 400 00:21:37,170 --> 00:21:38,922 My brother was at City College. 401 00:21:40,590 --> 00:21:43,677 And so the reason I came to tell my story today 402 00:21:43,802 --> 00:21:45,178 is because the incident 403 00:21:45,262 --> 00:21:47,264 was simply tucked under the rug. 404 00:21:49,683 --> 00:21:52,269 I've been trying to make sense 405 00:21:52,352 --> 00:21:54,688 of such a tragic event 406 00:21:55,355 --> 00:21:56,523 for years. 407 00:21:58,108 --> 00:22:00,527 All right, 98.7 Kiss FM. 408 00:22:00,610 --> 00:22:02,338 {\an1}Did you know, that the big basketball game tomorrow, 409 00:22:02,362 --> 00:22:04,007 - Are you going to be there? - -Oh yeah. 410 00:22:04,031 --> 00:22:06,591 - It's gonna be crowded, it's gonna be packed. - -Mmm-hmm. 411 00:22:06,616 --> 00:22:08,410 A lot of people coming 412 00:22:08,535 --> 00:22:10,495 to play in a celebrity basketball game. 413 00:22:11,038 --> 00:22:14,082 Jodeci, Boyz II Men, 414 00:22:14,207 --> 00:22:16,543 Brand New Being, LL Cool J. 415 00:22:17,544 --> 00:22:19,963 Everyone you knew in all boroughs 416 00:22:20,047 --> 00:22:22,549 were talking about City College that night. 417 00:22:24,051 --> 00:22:25,677 I was 17 years old. 418 00:22:26,803 --> 00:22:30,223 My brother Dirk really wanted to go 419 00:22:32,059 --> 00:22:35,562 I remember Dirk showing me the ticket. 420 00:22:35,645 --> 00:22:38,231 Dirk was someone to look up to. 421 00:22:39,191 --> 00:22:40,317 Out of our neighborhood 422 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,651 there was only a few of us 423 00:22:41,735 --> 00:22:44,321 that actually went away to college. 424 00:22:45,906 --> 00:22:49,326 Combs was dating Misa Hylton at the time. 425 00:22:49,409 --> 00:22:53,038 My sister Sonya and Misa were close friends, 426 00:22:54,247 --> 00:22:55,749 I was the big brother 427 00:22:55,874 --> 00:22:57,918 because we were so close in age. 428 00:22:58,001 --> 00:23:00,629 We had a real close bond. 429 00:23:00,754 --> 00:23:04,091 She was going to become a pediatric nurse. 430 00:23:05,050 --> 00:23:07,469 At the time, I had two young daughters 431 00:23:07,594 --> 00:23:11,431 and she was totally hands on with her nieces. 432 00:23:11,556 --> 00:23:13,600 She loved them deeply. 433 00:23:13,725 --> 00:23:17,437 The day of the event, she said she wasn't going, 434 00:23:17,521 --> 00:23:22,484 {\an3}but Misa reached out to Sonya and told her 435 00:23:22,609 --> 00:23:24,069 that Puffy had a ticket for her. 436 00:23:25,445 --> 00:23:27,614 And she decided to go. 437 00:23:31,368 --> 00:23:32,786 Day at City College comes 438 00:23:33,453 --> 00:23:35,831 I'm a part of Sean's staff. 439 00:23:35,956 --> 00:23:38,875 One thing Sean knew how to do was promote, 440 00:23:38,959 --> 00:23:41,962 and the buildup to City College was so phenomenal 441 00:23:42,087 --> 00:23:43,880 was almost like gods coming to town. 442 00:23:43,964 --> 00:23:45,465 The gym filled up, 443 00:23:46,466 --> 00:23:48,135 in like a blink of an eye. 444 00:23:58,103 --> 00:24:00,397 They were still selling tickets at the door. 445 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,984 But there's still a huge crowd outside of people with tickets. 446 00:24:06,486 --> 00:24:09,489 The bouncers or whoever said, 447 00:24:09,573 --> 00:24:12,576 "It's over. No one else is getting in." 448 00:24:12,659 --> 00:24:16,830 And that's when the door to the gym was closed. 449 00:24:19,124 --> 00:24:22,502 So now the crowd that saw that the doors were closing, 450 00:24:22,586 --> 00:24:24,296 many had tickets in hand. 451 00:24:25,505 --> 00:24:27,382 They decided to push 452 00:24:29,468 --> 00:24:31,595 And it caused a stampede 453 00:24:31,678 --> 00:24:35,015 going down the stairs with no way 454 00:24:35,098 --> 00:24:38,018 to enter the gymnasium with the four doors closed. 455 00:24:38,685 --> 00:24:41,688 The crowd went crazy. 456 00:24:44,107 --> 00:24:45,126 They broke the doors. 457 00:24:47,486 --> 00:24:49,279 And a bunch of people 458 00:24:49,362 --> 00:24:52,365 just rushed down those steps. 459 00:24:52,449 --> 00:24:54,159 And pushed them against those doors. 460 00:24:55,202 --> 00:24:57,871 I'm not quite sure what door Misa went through. 461 00:24:57,996 --> 00:24:59,539 But she wasn't with Sonya. 462 00:25:00,665 --> 00:25:02,542 My brother and his friends 463 00:25:02,626 --> 00:25:05,879 are in the staircase already, getting pushed. 464 00:25:08,548 --> 00:25:09,758 Sonya was behind 465 00:25:09,883 --> 00:25:12,052 one of the young girls that was with them. 466 00:25:13,178 --> 00:25:15,222 And her face was in her back. 467 00:25:16,348 --> 00:25:18,683 Imagine being packed like sardines. 468 00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:21,728 And if you're packed like this, 469 00:25:21,811 --> 00:25:22,812 there's nowhere to go. 470 00:25:25,398 --> 00:25:28,985 They had to literally pull the door open, 471 00:25:29,069 --> 00:25:30,904 crush someone opening the door. 472 00:25:32,656 --> 00:25:35,242 {\an3}And then start pulling people out into the gym 473 00:25:35,992 --> 00:25:38,537 one by one from one door. 474 00:25:42,749 --> 00:25:44,584 You see just a wave of people 475 00:25:44,668 --> 00:25:46,086 falling on the floor. 476 00:25:47,420 --> 00:25:48,421 Fighting to breath. 477 00:26:15,115 --> 00:26:17,826 You'll see in the footage Sean Combs 478 00:26:18,743 --> 00:26:20,662 shirt open and walking around. 479 00:26:21,580 --> 00:26:22,789 Just stressed out. 480 00:26:23,832 --> 00:26:25,834 I look over, he's over there pumping chests 481 00:26:25,959 --> 00:26:27,627 and breathing into people's mouths. 482 00:26:30,338 --> 00:26:32,841 And Sonya was one of the people 483 00:26:34,426 --> 00:26:35,844 well, he was trying to resuscitate 484 00:26:41,349 --> 00:26:43,852 Dirk wasn't getting enough oxygen to his brain. 485 00:26:44,853 --> 00:26:46,730 When they were doing CPR on him, 486 00:26:46,855 --> 00:26:48,481 his chest was going down. 487 00:26:49,149 --> 00:26:50,149 It hit the floor. 488 00:27:04,164 --> 00:27:05,582 And then my mother called. 489 00:27:05,707 --> 00:27:08,293 And then that was when I found out he was dead. 490 00:27:09,044 --> 00:27:10,503 She said, "He's gone, Jason." 491 00:27:28,063 --> 00:27:31,608 My mom and my dad and myself 492 00:27:31,733 --> 00:27:35,403 went back to City College to identify Sonya's body. 493 00:27:36,237 --> 00:27:38,573 They showed us Polaroids 494 00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:42,202 and someone tried to go over the top of the crowd. 495 00:27:43,203 --> 00:27:44,996 And clearly in the Polaroid, 496 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,373 you can see the boot mark 497 00:27:47,082 --> 00:27:48,083 in Sonya's head. 498 00:28:00,929 --> 00:28:04,265 I think Puffy bears a lot of responsibility 499 00:28:04,349 --> 00:28:05,975 for what happened that day 500 00:28:06,101 --> 00:28:08,645 because the doors remained closed, 501 00:28:08,770 --> 00:28:09,890 they could have been opened. 502 00:28:11,064 --> 00:28:12,083 Dwight Heavy D. Myers, 503 00:28:12,107 --> 00:28:13,775 and Sean "Puff Daddy" Combs 504 00:28:13,858 --> 00:28:16,611 pointed the fingers at everyone but themselves. 505 00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:19,489 Whatever must be done must be done to ensure 506 00:28:19,614 --> 00:28:21,866 that this never, ever, ever happens again. 507 00:28:22,951 --> 00:28:25,120 I know that he and Heavy D 508 00:28:25,245 --> 00:28:29,124 did not intend for that day to end that way. 509 00:28:29,249 --> 00:28:33,628 Puffy clearly wanted to throw the biggest best event, 510 00:28:33,753 --> 00:28:35,422 and he promoted the hell out of it. 511 00:28:36,214 --> 00:28:38,216 But he didn't do enough 512 00:28:38,299 --> 00:28:41,469 to protect the crowds of people that came out. 513 00:28:44,764 --> 00:28:45,974 There was a lawsuit 514 00:28:46,099 --> 00:28:48,852 for all the things that happened at City College. 515 00:28:48,977 --> 00:28:50,145 This was a huge case. 516 00:28:50,937 --> 00:28:53,314 The litigation lasted years. 517 00:28:54,983 --> 00:28:57,485 When my mother called me and told me 518 00:28:57,569 --> 00:29:01,156 that the lawyers were talking about a settlement, 519 00:29:01,239 --> 00:29:03,575 it was like take this money and she didn't shut up. 520 00:29:05,076 --> 00:29:06,911 Really, nothing mattered to me 521 00:29:06,995 --> 00:29:09,456 other than keeping Sonya's memory alive. 522 00:29:10,623 --> 00:29:11,642 And Puff wasn't hearing me, 523 00:29:11,666 --> 00:29:13,251 and that created a lot of tension 524 00:29:13,835 --> 00:29:14,836 between me and him. 525 00:29:14,919 --> 00:29:17,088 I said, "Was Sonya your friend?" 526 00:29:17,172 --> 00:29:18,882 He didn't want to answer the question. 527 00:29:19,007 --> 00:29:20,800 She got the ticket from you, man. 528 00:29:22,844 --> 00:29:26,139 These interactions started to make me physically sick. 529 00:29:31,144 --> 00:29:35,023 Clearly he had no interest on helping me 530 00:29:35,106 --> 00:29:36,524 keep Sonya's memory alive. 531 00:29:37,192 --> 00:29:38,359 Or the other eight. 532 00:29:44,991 --> 00:29:47,452 The city college incident for Puffy 533 00:29:47,535 --> 00:29:48,536 was a turning point 534 00:29:48,661 --> 00:29:51,039 in how people began to feel about him. 535 00:29:51,831 --> 00:29:53,124 He asked one time, 536 00:29:53,208 --> 00:29:55,251 "When is this ever going to be behind me?" 537 00:29:55,376 --> 00:29:57,295 And I said, "The more good you do, 538 00:29:57,378 --> 00:29:59,214 this will get further and further down 539 00:29:59,297 --> 00:30:01,132 on the list of questions that you're asked. 540 00:30:03,218 --> 00:30:05,720 Diddy was able to put it behind him 541 00:30:05,804 --> 00:30:09,390 because he was good at creating stars 542 00:30:09,474 --> 00:30:10,850 and making hits. 543 00:30:12,185 --> 00:30:14,229 He was succeeding. He was thriving. 544 00:30:14,312 --> 00:30:15,313 He was winning. 545 00:30:16,189 --> 00:30:19,275 In time, he becomes too big 546 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,861 to be working with Andre. 547 00:30:23,822 --> 00:30:25,573 And so Andre fired him. 548 00:30:26,991 --> 00:30:28,827 His gear was placed in the hallway, 549 00:30:28,910 --> 00:30:30,310 and they said, "Come get your gear." 550 00:30:31,412 --> 00:30:33,122 And I was like, "Whoa! So I guess 551 00:30:33,248 --> 00:30:34,916 I won't be hearing from him anymore." 552 00:30:36,209 --> 00:30:38,127 When you become a millionaire at 19, 553 00:30:38,253 --> 00:30:39,921 you probably go crazy. 554 00:30:40,004 --> 00:30:41,631 Act a little obnoxious. 555 00:30:41,756 --> 00:30:43,758 It was such a disappointment to me 556 00:30:43,842 --> 00:30:47,262 because I got fired by the first person that believed in me. 557 00:30:47,345 --> 00:30:49,764 And then I remember somebody saying 558 00:30:49,848 --> 00:30:52,016 Puff is having a meeting 559 00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:54,435 with Clive Davis about starting a label. 560 00:30:55,103 --> 00:30:56,813 It was said in a way of like 561 00:30:56,938 --> 00:30:59,107 That is so ridiculous. 562 00:30:59,232 --> 00:31:01,317 He's like the white godfather 563 00:31:01,442 --> 00:31:04,028 of black music for the last 50 years. 564 00:31:04,112 --> 00:31:07,115 He sees an opportunity to bring Sean Combs' energy 565 00:31:08,616 --> 00:31:10,159 and gives him his own signature label, 566 00:31:11,578 --> 00:31:16,291 It was incredibly significant for a young black man, 567 00:31:16,416 --> 00:31:18,293 to have his own label, 568 00:31:19,085 --> 00:31:21,546 and Puffy was in his 20s. 569 00:31:22,463 --> 00:31:24,465 That was incredible. 570 00:31:26,217 --> 00:31:29,387 Right away, Bad Boy is different than other labels, 571 00:31:29,470 --> 00:31:34,058 and this is coming from the energy of the guy at the top, 572 00:31:34,142 --> 00:31:36,477 I remember going into Bad Boy 573 00:31:36,561 --> 00:31:39,230 and there was words painted on the wall. 574 00:31:39,314 --> 00:31:42,233 Sleeping is for losers. 575 00:31:42,317 --> 00:31:43,651 Yo, yo, yo, yo bust your asses. 576 00:31:43,735 --> 00:31:45,069 I'll go back in the studio 577 00:31:45,153 --> 00:31:46,922 and you'll just pay for me to go back in the studio 578 00:31:46,946 --> 00:31:48,656 and tell me exactly what you want. 579 00:31:49,949 --> 00:31:52,535 I was his first publicist. 580 00:31:52,660 --> 00:31:55,788 One day, Mr. Davis called me at my desk, 581 00:31:56,831 --> 00:31:58,207 he said, "Lajoyce, 582 00:31:58,333 --> 00:32:00,001 from this day forward, 583 00:32:00,084 --> 00:32:02,503 I want you to garner press for Puffy." 584 00:32:02,629 --> 00:32:07,008 And I also understood the assignment 585 00:32:07,133 --> 00:32:10,845 to protect the black boy genius. 586 00:32:10,970 --> 00:32:12,597 Puffy was such a visionary. 587 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,642 Everything that he touched would eventually turn to gold. 588 00:32:16,142 --> 00:32:17,518 And platinum. 589 00:32:17,644 --> 00:32:19,020 And it is gone. It's on dog. 590 00:32:19,103 --> 00:32:20,438 Every single day, 591 00:32:20,521 --> 00:32:23,024 and I mean with no exaggeration. 592 00:32:23,107 --> 00:32:25,860 Puffy would call me between 02:15 and 04:00 o'clock. 593 00:32:26,486 --> 00:32:28,029 "What's going on? 594 00:32:28,112 --> 00:32:29,530 What's happening with the artist? 595 00:32:29,656 --> 00:32:31,950 Who's going to be appearing on what television show? 596 00:32:32,033 --> 00:32:33,701 I have an idea." 597 00:32:33,826 --> 00:32:35,745 And he'd leave it to you to execute. 598 00:32:35,870 --> 00:32:37,372 "By the way, in 48 hours." 599 00:32:39,332 --> 00:32:40,351 Bad Boy, you know what I'm saying? 600 00:32:40,375 --> 00:32:42,293 Your brand is all big 601 00:32:42,377 --> 00:32:44,295 Yeah, we got Craig Mack. 602 00:32:44,379 --> 00:32:46,589 The year for Bad Boy's, 1994. 603 00:32:46,714 --> 00:32:50,259 Craig Mack, drops "Flava in Ya Ear". 604 00:32:50,385 --> 00:32:52,804 "Flava in Ya Ear" was something that I made up. 605 00:32:53,846 --> 00:32:55,932 Yeah, I sampled some crazy sound 606 00:32:56,057 --> 00:32:57,308 and listen at that. 607 00:32:57,392 --> 00:33:00,979 I was like, ♪ Dum dum dum dum ♪ 608 00:33:01,062 --> 00:33:02,522 ♪ Dum dum ♪ 609 00:33:06,734 --> 00:33:10,071 Then on the hook, I threw that loud siren in 610 00:33:12,699 --> 00:33:15,243 It's special. I knew it was special. 611 00:33:15,368 --> 00:33:17,078 Puff was like, "Yo, I need some tracks 612 00:33:17,161 --> 00:33:19,747 for my new artist, Craig Mack." 613 00:33:19,831 --> 00:33:21,207 So I showed up with this tape. 614 00:33:23,584 --> 00:33:28,756 He played it and he said, "Yo, I will cut you a check for that right now." 615 00:33:30,341 --> 00:33:31,461 You know what I said, right? 616 00:33:32,844 --> 00:33:33,636 Sold. 617 00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:38,016 ♪ Here comes the brand new flava in ya ear ♪ 618 00:33:38,099 --> 00:33:39,934 ♪ Time for new flava in ya ear ♪ 619 00:33:40,018 --> 00:33:42,854 ♪ I'm kicking new flava in ya ear ♪ 620 00:33:44,564 --> 00:33:47,608 And then Notorious B.I.G puts Bad Boy on the map. 621 00:33:47,734 --> 00:33:50,611 What Biggie does is it gives the label, 622 00:33:50,695 --> 00:33:53,531 and it gives Sean Combs, street cred. 623 00:33:55,116 --> 00:33:57,493 So Combs' ideas with Biggie 624 00:33:57,618 --> 00:34:00,621 was how can we make something 625 00:34:00,705 --> 00:34:04,042 that's very rowdy and of the streets 626 00:34:04,125 --> 00:34:07,295 but make it so that everyone likes it. 627 00:34:07,378 --> 00:34:09,505 How can we do that within one song? 628 00:34:09,630 --> 00:34:11,466 And then you go to "Juicy". 629 00:34:11,591 --> 00:34:13,134 ♪ I never thought it could happen ♪ 630 00:34:13,259 --> 00:34:14,510 ♪ This rappin' stuff ♪ 631 00:34:14,635 --> 00:34:17,013 ♪ I was to use the packing jets and stuff ♪ 632 00:34:17,138 --> 00:34:19,057 Even though he's rhyming about 633 00:34:19,140 --> 00:34:21,392 standing on the corner selling dope. 634 00:34:21,476 --> 00:34:23,144 We might be at a pool party. 635 00:34:23,269 --> 00:34:27,315 We're gonna make it look good and glamorous and fun. 636 00:34:27,398 --> 00:34:29,650 Those mini juxtapositions 637 00:34:29,734 --> 00:34:31,736 in Biggies, repertoire 638 00:34:31,819 --> 00:34:34,906 to me are what made him work. 639 00:34:34,989 --> 00:34:40,161 Puff was definitely like, "Let's elevate the culture." 640 00:34:40,244 --> 00:34:44,248 A lot of it, in retrospect, was about elevating himself. 641 00:34:45,333 --> 00:34:47,335 He's in the videos. 642 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,420 He's on the songs. 643 00:34:49,504 --> 00:34:50,922 ♪ How ya livin' Biggie Smallz? ♪ 644 00:34:51,005 --> 00:34:52,757 ♪ In mansion and Benz's, givin'... ♪ 645 00:34:54,675 --> 00:34:57,386 In the concerts, on the stage. 646 00:34:57,512 --> 00:35:00,431 He's very much part of the story. 647 00:35:01,015 --> 00:35:02,016 He understood 648 00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:05,019 that I represent the brand. 649 00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:09,357 So when you see me, you see the Bad Boy brand. 650 00:35:09,482 --> 00:35:11,692 {\an1}But the West Coast was a legitimate threat 651 00:35:12,318 --> 00:35:14,403 to East Coast hip hop. 652 00:35:14,529 --> 00:35:17,365 The West Coast folks are selling many more records. 653 00:35:18,616 --> 00:35:20,868 This moment is where we start 654 00:35:20,952 --> 00:35:23,246 to see this intercoastal battle. 655 00:35:23,371 --> 00:35:27,458 Puff realized that now hip hop is war. 656 00:35:28,543 --> 00:35:29,752 We're fighting for number one, 657 00:35:29,877 --> 00:35:31,037 and we're playing real dirty. 658 00:35:32,171 --> 00:35:33,331 And a lot of people got hurt. 659 00:35:39,220 --> 00:35:42,223 Bad Boy was as hot as fish grease. 660 00:35:43,141 --> 00:35:44,267 He couldn't be touched, 661 00:35:44,392 --> 00:35:46,727 but more money, more problems, right? 662 00:35:46,853 --> 00:35:48,396 Everything was heightened. 663 00:35:48,521 --> 00:35:50,398 Backstabbing was heightened. 664 00:35:50,523 --> 00:35:52,608 Dishonesty to distrust, unloyalty 665 00:35:52,733 --> 00:35:55,403 All of that just started to unravel. 666 00:35:55,486 --> 00:35:59,574 Suge Knight he ran Death Row Records on the West Coast. 667 00:35:59,657 --> 00:36:03,411 Two very, very different versions of moguls. 668 00:36:03,494 --> 00:36:07,165 Suge Knight, who was a legitimate, scary figure. 669 00:36:07,248 --> 00:36:08,809 Suge Knight goes back to jail. 670 00:36:08,833 --> 00:36:10,894 Knight had been on probation for a 1992... 671 00:36:10,918 --> 00:36:12,479 . ..with assault and battery... 672 00:36:12,503 --> 00:36:15,256 And Sean Combs, who felt a little bit more cuddly... 673 00:36:16,257 --> 00:36:18,176 To people, right. 674 00:36:18,259 --> 00:36:21,179 The East Coast West Coast beef at that time 675 00:36:21,262 --> 00:36:23,264 took on epic proportions. 676 00:36:23,389 --> 00:36:27,185 And the two stars that we think about in that moment, 677 00:36:27,268 --> 00:36:29,520 who represents these two very different coasts. 678 00:36:29,604 --> 00:36:31,898 Are really, The Notorious B.I.G. 679 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:33,941 and Tupac Shakur. 680 00:36:34,066 --> 00:36:36,277 Tupac was a megastar, 681 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,196 rapper, icon. 682 00:36:39,739 --> 00:36:41,339 What a lot of people don't realize 683 00:36:41,365 --> 00:36:45,912 is that Death Row was trying to set up Death Row East. 684 00:36:48,706 --> 00:36:51,026 They really thought they could come and take New York. 685 00:36:51,959 --> 00:36:53,502 And they tried. 686 00:36:53,628 --> 00:36:56,672 It's unsettling to watch this Tupac video, 687 00:36:56,797 --> 00:36:59,508 knowing a short time later what would happen. 688 00:36:59,634 --> 00:37:00,736 We're coming to the East Coast 689 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:01,840 to overthrow the government 690 00:37:01,928 --> 00:37:04,055 y'all got right now, which is Bad Boy. 691 00:37:04,138 --> 00:37:05,723 Believe in Death Row East. 692 00:37:05,806 --> 00:37:07,892 Believe in that, for real. 693 00:37:07,975 --> 00:37:10,144 That was a bold move. 694 00:37:10,269 --> 00:37:13,522 The feud was so bad at that time 695 00:37:13,648 --> 00:37:15,024 that you might be in trouble 696 00:37:15,149 --> 00:37:17,652 throwing up the W on the East Coast. 697 00:37:20,905 --> 00:37:23,199 I could have been a casualty 698 00:37:23,324 --> 00:37:25,743 of the East Coast West Coast beef. 699 00:37:27,328 --> 00:37:29,163 I came up in the music industry 700 00:37:29,247 --> 00:37:30,706 as a concert promoter. 701 00:37:30,831 --> 00:37:33,751 And one nigh I was at a place called PJs, 702 00:37:33,834 --> 00:37:34,835 up in Harlem. 703 00:37:34,961 --> 00:37:38,506 Some cat comes in promoting "Death Row East." 704 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,176 He has these bright white T-shirts 705 00:37:42,843 --> 00:37:44,679 and he's giving them away. 706 00:37:44,804 --> 00:37:47,014 And I was like, "Okay, I like that. Let me get one." 707 00:37:47,098 --> 00:37:49,433 And I... I just... I threw it on. 708 00:37:50,351 --> 00:37:52,603 Later, we're going downtown. 709 00:37:52,687 --> 00:37:55,690 I'm with Lance Coffey, who is my security. 710 00:37:56,482 --> 00:37:57,525 We get to the club. 711 00:37:57,650 --> 00:37:59,360 Me and my Death Row East T-shirt. 712 00:38:00,361 --> 00:38:01,487 It was packed. 713 00:38:03,698 --> 00:38:06,993 An hour later, I come out of the club. 714 00:38:08,452 --> 00:38:10,621 We go across the street to my jeep. 715 00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:14,959 We get in, I'm in the driver's seat. 716 00:38:15,042 --> 00:38:19,630 And Puffy pulls up in a sports car. 717 00:38:19,714 --> 00:38:21,132 He's in the passenger seat. 718 00:38:23,551 --> 00:38:25,636 And then he said to me, "What's up, bitch?" 719 00:38:27,013 --> 00:38:29,765 I said, "Puff, man, I don't want nothing to do with you, man. 720 00:38:29,890 --> 00:38:30,993 Keep your drama to yourself." 721 00:38:31,017 --> 00:38:34,603 I really tried to deescalate the situation. 722 00:38:34,729 --> 00:38:37,398 He said, "Nah, you're a bitch." 723 00:38:40,568 --> 00:38:44,989 He aligned his beef with Suge Knight 724 00:38:45,072 --> 00:38:47,408 and Death Row in the West Coast 725 00:38:47,491 --> 00:38:48,951 with that T shirt. 726 00:38:49,076 --> 00:38:51,120 So it's like, "How dare you 727 00:38:51,245 --> 00:38:52,496 jump to the other side? 728 00:38:52,580 --> 00:38:55,499 How dare you promote Death Row?" 729 00:38:56,417 --> 00:38:59,003 And we proceed down the block. 730 00:38:59,086 --> 00:39:03,758 His car veers over and cuts me off. 731 00:39:03,883 --> 00:39:06,594 And forces me into an island. 732 00:39:07,595 --> 00:39:10,556 Lance and I both jumped out of the car. 733 00:39:11,265 --> 00:39:12,600 A shot blasted off. 734 00:39:13,351 --> 00:39:15,102 Lance yells, "Gun, gun!" 735 00:39:16,062 --> 00:39:18,189 And I don't know who shot it. 736 00:39:18,272 --> 00:39:22,443 I leap over the island and now it's a car chase 737 00:39:22,568 --> 00:39:27,656 and um, I'm... I'm fighting for my life at this point. 738 00:39:27,782 --> 00:39:30,618 All I know is that I need to get away. 739 00:39:30,743 --> 00:39:32,620 And so I'm driving. 740 00:39:32,745 --> 00:39:34,872 I'm going down a one way streets. 741 00:39:34,955 --> 00:39:36,707 I'm on the sidewalk at one point. 742 00:39:36,791 --> 00:39:39,126 It's a high speed chase through Manhattan. 743 00:39:47,635 --> 00:39:50,262 I just thank God I escaped that situation. 744 00:39:52,807 --> 00:39:56,727 What we see is this massive overreaction 745 00:39:56,811 --> 00:40:00,147 and tendency towards brutal violence. 746 00:40:00,272 --> 00:40:03,192 If he could fly off the handle that easily. 747 00:40:03,317 --> 00:40:06,153 Over such a small perceived slight. 748 00:40:06,278 --> 00:40:08,364 What else was he capable of? 749 00:40:08,489 --> 00:40:09,740 You asked me earlier 750 00:40:09,824 --> 00:40:11,784 like, why I'm here? 751 00:40:12,993 --> 00:40:14,995 Like I almost wouldn't be here, period. 752 00:40:16,914 --> 00:40:21,293 My whole future would be erased. 753 00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:27,258 Dude, you're a menace... 754 00:40:28,092 --> 00:40:29,593 to society. 755 00:40:30,761 --> 00:40:33,055 My story is just a piece 756 00:40:33,180 --> 00:40:36,934 of the bigger puzzle of his mayhem. 757 00:40:39,603 --> 00:40:42,940 Sean Combs has been the figure 758 00:40:43,023 --> 00:40:45,443 more associated with death, 759 00:40:46,527 --> 00:40:48,696 tragedy and brokenness 760 00:40:48,821 --> 00:40:50,614 than any mogul. 761 00:40:50,698 --> 00:40:54,368 He ran on fear and intimidation. It was abused. 762 00:40:54,452 --> 00:40:58,205 Combs wants what he wants when he wants it. 763 00:40:58,330 --> 00:41:01,208 He was saying things like, turn around, let me see that ass. 764 00:41:01,333 --> 00:41:03,627 All of a sudden, I just seen him out of nowhere 765 00:41:03,711 --> 00:41:05,296 just punching. 766 00:41:05,379 --> 00:41:08,382 And God said to me, be still you're about to get hit. 767 00:41:10,176 --> 00:41:12,720 I truly believe monsters are not born... 768 00:41:13,304 --> 00:41:14,304 they're made 769 00:41:32,573 --> 00:41:40,573 {\an9}♪♪ 60513

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