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Climate change is not only
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affecting
the health of the planet.
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It's also affecting
human health.
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Planet Earth.
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We have a problem.
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Absolutely.
We're in a climate emergency.
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Climate change is doing more
than just melting
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ice caps and bleaching coral.
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It's making us sick.
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Everybody is being impacted.
You name it.
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Everything is changing.
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The number one
threat to humans.
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Hi, my name is Dr.
Dara O'Carroll
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and I'm an emergency
and disaster physician.
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And I've seen the effects
of climate change firsthand.
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We're getting more extremes,
not less.
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Chronic fatigue of all of us.
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That's when all hell
is going to break loose.
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Join me as I travel the global
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eating world experts
as they sound the alarm,
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seeking solutions
to some of the world's
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most pressing health issues.
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Even going beyond two degrees
is going to be catastrophic.
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We still have
a fighting chance,
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but we've got to move fast now
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and in today's
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program, we
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head down
under to the Great Barrier
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Reef to see how climate change
is affecting
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one of the natural wonders
of the world
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and what it means for human
health.
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We'll follow the deadly
Irukandji jellyfish,
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one of the world's
most venomous creatures
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as it trek south directly into
the path of populated areas.
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We investigate
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the role climate change
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is playing on the rising
number of fatal shark attacks.
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Before
I go into total meltdown
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during a debilitating heat
chamber experiment
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and finally will confront
a mega bushfire,
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one so catastrophic
it will transform the way
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people view
climate change forever.
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Nowhere in the world
is climate change
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having more of an effect
than here in Australia.
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The early 20th century poet
Dorothea McKellar once wrote
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I love a sunburnt country,
a land of sweeping plains,
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of ragged mountain ranges, of
droughts and flooding rains.
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You see, Australia has always
been a land of extremes.
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But today,
things are getting much worse.
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More than any other
developed nation in the world.
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Australia is rapidly changing.
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Climate is impacting
the health of its own citizens
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and doctors around the country
are sounding the alarm.
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Temperature of the planet
is changing
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in a way that it hasn't
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changed for thousands,
if not millions of years.
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That's being driven
by greenhouse gases
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which are coming from human
activities mainly.
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And that the prognosis
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for the future on our current
trajectory is pretty grim.
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Despite the bad news,
there is a way out of this,
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but we've got to act
decisively now.
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Projections
I've seen show that
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if we don't get climate change
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under control, in other words,
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if global average temperatures
go to three degrees or more,
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there will be large
swaths of Australia
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which will simply be
uninhabitable.
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I see climate change
not as a planetary issue, but
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as a human issue, one that's
impacting public health today
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and that threatens to impact
the very future of our kids.
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The single greatest health
challenge that health care
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workers globally will have
to face is climate change.
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One of the
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consequences of climate change
is the loss of biodiversity.
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Ground zero for this
loss is our world to reefs,
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and nowhere is experiencing it
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faster than the Great Barrier
Reef,
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which supports the richest,
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most complex natural ecosystem
on the planet.
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Dying coral is not just
an esthetic loss.
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It also jeopardizes
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the discovery of future
medicines
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and threatens
the livelihood of coastal
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populations who rely on reefs
for food and habitat.
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So I just arrived in Cairns
here in the tropical north
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of Australia at the gateway
to the Great Barrier Reef.
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This is one of the only
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places in the world
where lush rainforest meets
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coral and sustain such a high
degree of biodiversity.
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What a lot of people aren't
realizing, though,
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is that climate change
is affecting this area
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but also having tremendous
consequences for human health.
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About 40% of non therapeutic
drugs come from nature.
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We're going to miss
some major opportunities
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if we let climate change
escalate
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and continue
to decimate our biodiversity.
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I mean, Australia is one of 17
negative worst countries
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in the world.
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We want to protect
more than just Australia.
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We want to protect
all of those 17 countries.
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But climate change is causing
some major problems there
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and we're losing medicines
of the future.
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I've arranged to meet up
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with marine biologist
Richard Fitzpatrick,
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who's offered to
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take biochemists Rowan Davis
and I out on an exploratory
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dive on the Great Barrier Reef
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Institute.
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Hey, Paul, this
is Darren with Rich Scots.
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We're heading down to you now.
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We're going to Marlin Marino.
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Is that correct?
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That's correct.
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It's not long before we leave
the port city of Cairns
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and make our way out
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into the vast
expanse of the Coral Sea.
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From the surface,
everything appears is normal.
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But due to recent changes
in the climate,
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the water temperature
in this part of the world
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has been rapidly increasing,
resulting
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in a disastrous series
of coral bleaching events.
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All right, Richard, these are
these are your waters
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or where exactly we are.
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This is textured reef,
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so it's what
we call a mitchell freak.
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So they had to race
another hour at that way.
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Just travel 2 hours
to get here.
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But these Mitchell freaks
are the ones
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that really got hammered
by the coral bleaching events.
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And so what you're going
to see today is a recovering
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from those events.
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There
were a couple of years ago
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near it, and the Barrier
Reef actually had a barrier.
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We've got this back
lagoon area and that's
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where the thermal load
just increased.
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And there's just mass
bleaching.
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How long does it take for that
bleaching to happen
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and how long does it take
to recover?
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Well, for a reef
to really fully recover
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after a destructive event
takes about 15 to 20 years.
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Well,
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so destructive
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around the events on the reef
you have cyclones.
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Crown of thorns.
And now we have bleaching.
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But destruction
is part of construction.
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You know, you do need corals
to get reduced to rubble
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that can fill in the spaces
for a reef to grow.
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But it's that balance between
growth in and destruction
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at the moment
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with the climate change,
it's all out of whack.
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It's too much destruction.
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Yeah, and the destructive
events are now too frequent.
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So the corals can recover.
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But if the stress
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from the temperature
last too long,
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those corals will just
starve and die.
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But the issue
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that the Barrier Reef is
facing is the right of change,
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is too fast for
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natural evolutionary processes
to keep up with.
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It's the rate of climate
change.
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It's just unprecedented.
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So literally the longer
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we wait,
the worse it's going to be,
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because at the moment us doing
nothing is kicking
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the can down the road
for future generations.
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I'd heard
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so much
about the Great Barrier
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Reef, the largest
living structure on earth,
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and I was just excited
to see it
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and experience it for myself
with everything in order.
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Rohan Richardson
I set off to explore.
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What immediately
struck me was the contrast
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between healthy, vibrant coral
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and the skeletal remains
of dead and bleached coral,
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which look more
like a pile of rubbish.
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If anyone has any doubts
that the reef is in trouble,
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I'm here to tell you
that the threat is serious
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and is very real.
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To me it looks
I know not a reef expert, but
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I saw a lot of say my health
healthy coral, some not.
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Sounds like you're
a reef expert.
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It's exactly what it was.
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It's a recovering reef.
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There's a lot of death.
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So we went over that
big rubble bit,
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and I was pointing to
an ongoing, you know, no good.
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Then right at the end of it,
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we saw that big, beautiful
candelabra of staghorn coral.
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Right.
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That's what that whole area
would have been like
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if we don't have any more
destructive events in another.
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So ten years, you go in there
and go, it's amazing.
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But what you're seeing is,
is a recent recovery, right?
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Personally, I'm like,
how does that make you feel?
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Or somebody who's been,
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you know, diving these waters
for how long?
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You have both mixed emotions
like sadness,
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because you can see
in your mind's eye
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what it was,
how great it would have been.
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But then you see bits of hope
with all these new recruits
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coming in
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and that have weathered
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all these storms
that are hanging in there and
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and they are trying
to recolonize.
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So it's the yin
and the yang. Right.
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And I find
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that nearly everywhere I go
now, diving on the reef alone.
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What do you think
when you see that
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as that's your territory
into grabbing
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and getting future
pharmaceuticals?
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I could definitely see
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a lot of harm destruction
there and a lot of, you know,
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loss of biodiversity,
especially on
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top of the Coral bombing,
where a lot of that
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that marine life
was essentially dead.
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But I saw snippets of,
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you know, optimism as well
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as life as we moved around
the whole me, there was
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some sponges in the city
and that caught my eye.
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And these are two marine
organisms that we know
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produce interesting compounds
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that might one day developed
into medicines.
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It's a real race
against time for you
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then to get this stuff
in the can.
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Well, it's really
we've already lost
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a magnitude of those
before they're even destroyed.
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You know, that's
what's really sad is like,
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you know, marine biology is a
relatively new science.
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You know,
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it's only since we've been
able to blow bubbles
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carrying these things
on our back.
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For the last 40 years,
we've been sticking
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our heads under the sink.
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We lose that before we even
get a chance to collect.
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Describe it, analyze it.
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It's tragic.
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We are playing catch up
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and we're
we're running out of time.
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Really.
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These these new species
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could be sources
of medicines, of the future.
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And much of our science
has been biased
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in the shallow water,
you know, the top 20 meters.
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The stuff below that
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hasn't been touched at all.
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We've only just had our first
ever full
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comprehensive deep sea survey
on the inside of the reef.
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There's stuff down there
that will never be known.
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It'll be gone before,
you know.
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So who knows what
we're losing, right?
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Exactly where it's got to be,
to our detriment.
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Great Barrier Reef.
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How well it's going to hold up
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as the canary in the coal
mine.
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It's all ecosystems, right?
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But yeah, you lose the reef.
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You know, most of the world's
populations live
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on the edge of the water
in the tropics.
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Every part of their life
comes from the reef that goes.
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And you've got
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literally billions of people
will start starving.
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The reef guys erodes away,
The mangroves go at heart.
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More high energy storms,
erosion storms.
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We just
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I can see as a physician,
that's extremely frustrating.
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So I can appreciate
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as you guys, people
ignoring the science
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and seeing the consequences
down there.
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Like that's going to be
incredibly frustrating. Yeah.
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So so what is the solution
to all this?
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I think humanity has to be
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faced with absolute crises
sometimes before we react.
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But the crisis
is happening now.
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It's just hidden because it's,
you know, below the water.
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And that's
why it's so important
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for the science
and even the media
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to get the stories out.
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It just to mobilize people.
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But I think, you know,
humanity, we're pretty smart,
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You know, in
science and engineering.
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It's not like we don't have
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the components out there
to start fixing things.
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It's just the will, right?
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You don't appreciate
good health until you lose it.
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And so this hopefully not
get to the point where we lose
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everything
is the key to the game.
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Alarmed
at how much destruction
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I saw
while diving out on the reef,
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I wanted to speak further
with Roland Davis
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about the medicines
we could potentially
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be losing in the future.
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What is it about Queensland?
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I know we've got rainforest
right on top of the huge
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Great Barrier Reef.
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What is it about this state
that has such a wealth
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of potential? This area
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is just it's one of the most
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biodiverse regions
in in Australia.
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We've got so many different
ecosystems
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and those ecosystems
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hold this unique biodiversity
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that as a natural products
chemist I want to go and study
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and I have high hopes
that in the future
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we're going to find new drugs
from these unique locations.
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So how much of our new
pharmaceuticals
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are coming from nature?
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About 40% of non-therapeutic
drugs come from nature.
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They're either natural
products or derivatives.
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There's some wonderful
examples out there.
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Probably most people know
about morphine from the opium
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poppy, which has pain control,
controlling properties
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as a way to safeguard
flora and fauna.
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Rowan
established a nature bank
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to develop medicines
into the future.
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So nature banks,
a collection of the biota,
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biota, meaning plants
and marine organisms
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that we've gone and collected
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over the last two decades here
in the state of Queensland.
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And they're set aside
for future generations
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of scientists to work on.
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So if I don't make the big
discovery in the future,
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I hope that someone else does
from these natural resources.
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We've
had some really interesting
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discoveries
over the last couple of years
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with this nature
bang collection
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when climate change is
threatening our biodiversity.
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Are you telling me that it's
threatening
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our potential pharmaceutical
and future medicines?
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Well, and truly, yeah.
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Every time we lose a species,
we could be losing
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a potential drug
or therapy of the future.
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So how do you personally feel
that your work
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is being compromised
by our changing climate?
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It's upsetting.
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It spurs us on to to make sure
we we collect these samples
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while we still can for future
generations of scientists.
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These samples, while
we may not get to use them,
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our future scientists will
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and they'll make the new
discoveries
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that are needed
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to treat certain
human diseases in the world.
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Another powerful
example of the threat posed
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by climate change
in this part of the world
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is the Irukandji jellyfish,
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one of the most venomous
creatures on the planet.
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As a water gets warmer here
in the tropical north,
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the Irukandji are not only
appearing for longer periods,
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they're also pushing
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further south directly
into the path of major cities.
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It's a recipe for disaster.
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All right, big red warning.
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These are tropical waters.
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We're presence of dangerous
jellyfish as possible.
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Calm seas, northerly winds
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and high temperatures favor
the presence of stingers,
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but other conditions do
not guarantee their absence.
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Persons entering these waters
do so at their own risk.
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I mean,
this is one of the major
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tourist areas
of northern Australia.
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This is Palm Cove.
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I've seen this sign
and many other
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signs up and down this beach
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to find out more.
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I had to visit Dr.
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Jamie Seymour,
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the world's leading expert
in Irukandji jellyfish.
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For a creature with such
a fearsome reputation.
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I was immediately surprised
at just how small they are.
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But that's a full grown
animal.
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This is it. Let's see.
They're tiny.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And that's.
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I mean, that's the first thing
that catches most people.
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And I mean, yes,
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they're on the bottom
of the evolutionary tree,
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but these things are seriously
sophisticated animals.
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From a pain point of view.
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It's probably up there
with the world's worst venom.
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Full stop.
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And to give you some idea.
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Zero. No pain. Ten. The most
you can imagine.
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My last trip
with one of these guys
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I had the pain of that for.
So you were stunned.
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I've been down that trip
11 times.
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Never, ever want to go
there, ever. In the beginning.
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It's horrific.
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If someone had given me
a gun at that point in time,
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I was a seriously debilitating
pain.
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It's it's hard
to get it across to people
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to physically be me.
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But the world's worst pain.
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You're getting close
in Cairns.
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On average,
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we put 30 to 50 people
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in hospital
a year from Irukandji stings.
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That's just Queensland.
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The problem is
if you're stung,
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you're going to hospital.
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It doesn't matter
whether it's a millimeter
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tentacle or 20 centimeters.
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If you're off the hospital,
end of story.
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I've had to personally
warn people
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and they have their babies
in the,
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you know, on the shoreline
and waiting in those waters.
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So there's a real, real risk
and threat to loss of life
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from that.
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But the problems that you have
is that we've got an idea
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in Cairns, but
this is geographic specific.
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There's now a direct link
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between warming water
and both the length
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of the Irukandji season
and their movement.
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Further south
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we found was the season back
in 1960 was about one
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or two months long.
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So the jellyfish
would turn up in November
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and the last thing you got
was the back end of December.
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You look at it in 2000
and that season, now
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still starting in around
about November,
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the seasons are dragging out
to April, May, possibly June.
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Bubble length.
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Increasing the season
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beautifully correlates
with the increase
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in water temperature.
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These animals have got all
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white
and just north of Brisbane.
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That's right down
the east coast of Australia,
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who has a water got warmer,
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they've got further
and further south.
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Water temperatures,
particularly in the ocean,
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generally are rising
at a much lower rate.
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But up on the northern
Australian coast
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are rising almost as fast
as their temperatures,
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that about one degree Celsius
hotter than pre-industrial
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and that is what is leading
to the massive bleaching
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of the Great Barrier Reef.
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It's leading to changes in
behavior of marine organisms
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like sharks.
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It's leading to changes in the
ranges of marine organisms.
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If you continue to increase
the water temperature
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and it gets warmer and warmer
as we get further south,
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these animals will go further
and further south.
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Not if,
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but when they arrive
on the major beaches
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down in Brisbane and places
like that.
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That's
when all hell is going to
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break loose
because we have no way
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of alleviating the problem
at this moment.
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Apart from going
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the beaches closed,
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is it possible they could get
all the way to Sydney
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if the water gets warmer?
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Absolutely.
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You know,
our lifestyle is based
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around the ocean and to have
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a danger like that moving,
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I think a lot of the southern
Queenslanders
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wouldn't
be able to comprehend it.
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We live with it
here in north Queensland.
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We now have two.
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But yeah,
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I think there'll be a
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long learning curve down there
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which will involve
a lot of hospital visits.
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We don't go out in the water
without
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some sort of protection.
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A stinger suit
most of the year
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now, especially here
along the coastline,
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not only those little ones,
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but there's some big box
jellies
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that also can do some
some serious damage.
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And as if to highlight
the severity of the problem,
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while I was in Queensland,
a young boy died
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while swimming
in the coastal town of Mackay
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after being brushed by a box
jellyfish.
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You mentioned that
we can fix this.
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How do we fix it?
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Look, I think the answer
is really simple.
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It's one of those problems
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that the more money
you throw at it,
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the quicker
you find a solution.
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But we're not there yet.
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We're not even close.
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We still don't know how
the venom operates.
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And we've been working
on these
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for probably 15 or 20 years
and it's
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there's just so many unknowns
in the whole situation.
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So it's either
going to be one of two things.
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We're either
gonna have to do something
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specific
to remove those animals.
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That's not possible,
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but people are have to stop
using the ocean.
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It's going to come down
somewhere.
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We know climate
change is out there yet.
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Let's not get into an argument
who calls it
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whatever it is
that we know it is.
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There somebody come up with
a conclusion how we fix it?
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One person
who's trying to find solutions
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to the climate crisis here on
the reef is Dean Miller,
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who heads up the Great Barrier
Reef Legacy,
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a nonprofit organization
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trying to preserve coral
in a living biobank.
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This is the holding facility
of Cairns Marine,
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which is an industry leader
really in collecting corals
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and fish
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and holding them
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and distributing
to the world's
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public and private aquariums.
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Right now there'd be,
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you know, over 10,000
coral fragments in here.
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00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,400
So we could effectively
have in this space
513
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,440
the entire collection
of the world's fault.
514
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:07,960
How big
is the problem that we have
515
00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:11,640
in my mind, potentially
catastrophic, right?
516
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,440
We're losing pulse
at an alarming rate
517
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,400
and we're we're losing them
very, very quickly.
518
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,200
We've had three mass
bleaching events
519
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,000
in six years
now, and over 50% of Great
520
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,000
Barrier Reef
cover has already been lost.
521
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,960
WHITE So we don't have coral
reefs anymore.
522
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,800
Where are those billion people
going to go?
523
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,520
What are they going to eat?
524
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:29,480
These are
525
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,320
potentially
catastrophic issues
526
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,880
that we're going to have to
face, right,
527
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,120
I feel in the next
20, 30, 40 years.
528
00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:37,000
And so these are the biobank
corals.
529
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,040
And each one of these little
fragments represents a space.
530
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,680
And so they're sitting
on the little acrylic plugs.
531
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,800
And within that acrylic
plug is a microchip.
532
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,720
So from the moment
they come out of the water,
533
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:49,960
all the data is collected on
534
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,320
everything about the race
that they came from,
535
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,600
the temperature, the depth,
the water chemistry.
536
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,400
They've had millions of years
to adapt
537
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,400
to different temperatures
around the world.
538
00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,400
And we're trying to push them
539
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,000
through that evolution process
in a much faster timeframe.
540
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:03,840
So they're struggling.
541
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,520
Some corals can do it,
542
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,520
but majority are showing
signs of stress.
543
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,040
And we need to acknowledge
that this is a global problem.
544
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,240
Now, other reef systems
are completely collapsed.
545
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,280
We're in a unique position in
546
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,280
that this is an opportunity
to bank
547
00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:21,720
the biodiversity of Coles
548
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,640
now, whereas
in other places of the world
549
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,720
it's either happening
right now or it's too late
550
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,720
Because I was speaking
with Professor Roland Davis,
551
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,000
he was saying that
we're losing biodiversity
552
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,120
and his ability
to find different chemicals
553
00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:34,800
that can be applicable
for medicines
554
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,960
that I could be using
in the emergency department.
555
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,440
We're losing. Absolutely.
556
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,400
So it's really
an untapped resource.
557
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:42,280
And when you think that
558
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,960
there's 800 to 1000
coral species around the world
559
00:21:46,120 --> 00:21:47,000
that we really know
560
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,000
very little about
in terms of their genetic,
561
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,800
I guess, bio
prospecting potential.
562
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,600
So one of the things
this project does
563
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,080
is collect a living sample.
564
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,360
Then we run the genetics
565
00:21:57,360 --> 00:21:58,960
and we'll have the full
genetic sequence
566
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,960
for each one of these
coral fragments.
567
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,960
And someone like
a pharmaceutical or medical
568
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,280
research
lab will have access to that
569
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,640
full genetic information.
570
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,640
So this could be the cure
to prostate cancer,
571
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:12,960
or this one could be the one
572
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,000
that fights COVID
or something like that.
573
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,760
We just don't know
what's out there yet.
574
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:17,520
We don't know what's out
575
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,160
and what gives you hope
for the future.
576
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,920
The biggest hope is that
we can do something right now
577
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:23,760
collecting the calls
578
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,760
and keeping them alive
in a biobank scenario
579
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,200
allows us to at least maintain
that biodiversity.
580
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:31,560
But there's
lots of other stuff
581
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:32,160
we need to be doing.
582
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,880
So that's
one piece of the puzzle
583
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,120
really needs to address.
Climate change head on.
584
00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:37,800
And I think
as a global community,
585
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,720
unless we start to make
radical changes, we're
586
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,720
going to lose the race
at the end of the day.
587
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,120
And I feel like people
588
00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:46,960
will do the right thing
at the end of day.
589
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,760
A warming planet
not only threatens
590
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,760
the health of coral, it's
also causing extreme
591
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,360
drought and oppressive
heat the world over.
592
00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:55,200
In fact, heat
593
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,120
waves kill more people
across the world
594
00:22:57,120 --> 00:22:59,200
than any other weather
phenomena.
595
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,600
In Australia alone,
596
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,600
an average of over 500
Australians die of heat
597
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,040
illness every year.
598
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,720
So I would say that
extreme heat
599
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,040
probably is the number one
factor
600
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,000
that's driving
change in our climate
601
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,960
and driving health
Health impacts.
602
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,640
One of the biggest
and most immediate challenges
603
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,880
across the world is heat
stress.
604
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,400
Basically, as the weather
gets more extreme and hotter,
605
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,200
we are anticipating
many more 100 plus degrees
606
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,200
in the United States,
specifically in the Southeast.
607
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,720
To learn
more about the problem,
608
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,600
I travel to Sydney to visit
Professor
609
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,760
Ali Jae, a leading heat
and health
610
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,720
expert
at the University of Sydney.
611
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,080
We're facing
612
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,320
pretty dire consequences
potentially in certain
613
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,680
parts of the world,
particularly areas
614
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,480
of northern India,
for example.
615
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,240
They already experience
very high temperatures
616
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,920
alongside
quite high humidities as well.
617
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,680
Here in Australia,
of course, we might expect
618
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,360
temperatures to increase
quite substantially as well.
619
00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:56,640
Also the humidity
that's associated with that
620
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:57,320
for a long time,
621
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,680
people, we're not really
taking the health impacts,
622
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,520
which with the seriousness
623
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,280
that the expert community
was talking about.
624
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,000
They were talking about
the fact that
625
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,200
we could get to temperatures
626
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,640
where it's impossible
to live outside without an
627
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,320
air conditioner.
628
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,720
This is when,
you know, things are so humid
629
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,960
and so hot that you literally
can't keep yourself cool.
630
00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:19,360
And you, don.
631
00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:24,760
And so we can expect that heat
stress will will continue
632
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,760
to cost thousands of lives
every year.
633
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,080
For some reason, people
aren't embracing
634
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,840
that threat
as much as they should
635
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,840
to get a taste of heat stress
in a simulated environment.
636
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,040
Dr. J invited me to exercise
in a heat chamber,
637
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,040
something I must say
I wasn't looking forward to.
638
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,640
And if that wasn't bad enough,
639
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,520
I had to swallow a
thermometer pills
640
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,960
so they could measure my core
body temperature.
641
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,720
What we see at the moment
is that heat waves,
642
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,120
we definitely get heat
waves with 45 degrees Celsius
643
00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:55,360
or even warmer.
644
00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:56,760
But the challenge
in this particular case
645
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,080
will be the higher humidity.
646
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,560
So when you're indoors,
it's pretty difficult
647
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,160
to simulate
an outdoor environment.
648
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,480
You can simulate
the temperature and you
649
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,000
can simulate the humidity.
650
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,400
But what we can do
with this facility
651
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,560
as well as up to an extent,
652
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,560
we can simulate the extra
thermal radiation that comes
653
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,520
from being in an outdoor
sunny environment.
654
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,520
So it's very what it's doing
is is monitoring
655
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,400
what your breathing
in and what you're breathing
656
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,600
every six.
657
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,920
Growing up in Hawaii,
658
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,040
I was used to working and
exercising in tropical heat,
659
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,400
but nothing could have
prepared me for this.
660
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,640
The future is
661
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,240
very long
662
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:41,760
from now on.
663
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,760
Screening service
drifting off me.
664
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,200
I'll do that at the moment,
665
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,440
I can feel myself returning
666
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,760
from one degree Celsius.
667
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,040
Your heart rate
668
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,240
to 141.
669
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,240
The level definitely feeling
ceiling increase
670
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,760
15 minutes into the exercise
and I was in a pool of sweat
671
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,080
and I was so hot I felt
my head was about to explode.
672
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,360
The future
was definitely really hot.
673
00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:17,240
I mean,
I wasn't even doing much work.
674
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,520
You guys saw
me like a slow jog
675
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,200
and I felt like
I was sort of suffocating
676
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,200
and I'm not an unfit guy,
you know, that's not possible
677
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,760
to live with in the future.
678
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,040
I mean, that was only
20 minutes or less,
679
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,080
some around 20 minutes
for some reason that all day
680
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,280
I mean, you're talking about
chronic dehydration or even
681
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,880
heat stroke or heat exhaustion
before 3 hours are done.
682
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,600
I hope it's not what's coming
because that's not bearable.
683
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:43,680
It's hard
684
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,640
to imagine how people
685
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,640
can function and work in such
debilitating conditions.
686
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,640
And it just gave me
a small insight
687
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,560
into what life could be like
in a warmer future.
688
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,000
So once we surpassed
the age of 65 or 70 years old,
689
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,320
you start getting age
related reductions
690
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,680
in the ability to sweat.
691
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,800
So the other group of people
that we're also concerned
692
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,920
about are people
who are physically active.
693
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,320
So if because of your job
694
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,280
or because of the sport
that you participate
695
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,680
in or something like that,
696
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,600
so in that situation,
697
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,480
you be
698
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,120
more likely to experience
699
00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:16,080
something called
exertional heat stroke.
700
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,760
Whereas the other situation,
I would describe
701
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,560
older individuals
702
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,040
who just simply at home
can't keep cool.
703
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,760
That would be something called
classic heat stroke,
704
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:23,200
heat stress.
705
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,360
I can now feel it now
706
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:25,920
personally
that it's the number one
707
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,240
killer going forward when
it comes to climate change.
708
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,040
More people are going to die
709
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,400
of heat, stress
and everything else.
710
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,040
Every year,
711
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,280
thousands of people die
as a result of heat stress.
712
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,320
This is not a unique
to the developing world.
713
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,200
It's in the developed world
as well.
714
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,560
At the end of the day,
we've got to be making sure
715
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,560
that we turn that create
those greenhouse gases off,
716
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,840
because if you don't turn them
off, then all of this unique
717
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,440
and innovative
science will be found.
718
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:51,120
I think
719
00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:52,200
rising temperatures
720
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,560
are not only affecting
the health of humans,
721
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,120
they're also affecting
shark behavior.
722
00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,640
In the last few years,
the east coast of Australia
723
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,360
has experienced
724
00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:03,360
an unusually high number
of fatal shark attacks.
725
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,400
To find out
more about the problem,
726
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,920
I caught up with leading shark
researcher Dr.
727
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,800
Daryl McPhee on North
Stradbroke Island,
728
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,040
the scene
of a horrific, fatal attack.
729
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,480
So Daryl, what makes this
730
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,520
area prone to shark attacks
and having to have that sign
731
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,720
up there?
732
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,160
The environmental conditions
here are perfect for bull
733
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,400
sharks in particular.
734
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,600
We have an extremely deep
735
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,320
channel roaring
close to the beach
736
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,520
and we have all the water
coming in and out of water
737
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,960
by that large,
738
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,960
large environment
which sits next to Brisbane.
739
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,640
And most of the fish
that come in and out,
740
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,960
lots of scalding
fish like sea mullet,
741
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,400
which are really preferred
food in this area
742
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,680
for bull sharks hugging
the beach and the sharks
743
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,400
can fight back in 2006
in this very spot.
744
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,240
A 21 year old girl suffered
a terrifying fatal attack
745
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,160
when she was mauled
just meters away
746
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,280
from the beach
by a number of sharks.
747
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,280
And it's an encounter that
still haunts this area today.
748
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,040
What was so bad about that
shark attack was
749
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,720
was that it occurred
in the late afternoon,
750
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,280
quite a hot day when there was
751
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,080
a lot of families
here was multiple bites
752
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,280
from multiple bull shops.
753
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,280
And it really just
shattered the community.
754
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,960
And that shocked blood
is still etched indelibly
755
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,200
on people's memories.
756
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,880
Daryl,
there's been a recent record
757
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,960
number of fatal
great white shark attacks
758
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,040
here on the East
coast of Australia.
759
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,520
What's the role
climate change may be having?
760
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,840
There's never one reason
for a trend in unprovoked
761
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,120
shark bites,
762
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,720
but certainly
on the Australian east coast,
763
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,240
with changing currents
and warming water,
764
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,280
there's a correlation
765
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,520
between those factors
and the occurrence of sharks
766
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,440
on beaches where people are
swimming and surfing.
767
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,680
What's been unusual,
particularly
768
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,760
the last couple of years, is
a high number of fatalities.
769
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,560
In 2020,
the east coast of Australia
770
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,760
experienced 22 unprovoked
shark attacks, including
771
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,320
eight fatalities, making it
the worst year on record.
772
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,240
If we're seeing
an influx of sharks
773
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,680
or really high numbers,
774
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,240
lots of sightings of sharks
in one area,
775
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,520
we have to kind of wonder
what's bringing them in there.
776
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,720
Are they falling prey
777
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,400
or is there
something in the environment
778
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,560
that's telling them
this is where they should be?
779
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,680
So when we were talking about
what could be changing
780
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,480
shark movement,
shark behavior,
781
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,200
we have to look
at those environmental cues.
782
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,360
The sharks are moving around
783
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,960
in relation to food
and where their food goes,
784
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,600
where they go.
785
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,800
And so
786
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,440
what we find
with climate change
787
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,400
is that
their prey is being affected.
788
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,720
So therefore, ultimately
sharks are being affected.
789
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,360
We know that
their migratory patterns
790
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,400
are getting pushed
by climate change as well.
791
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,840
Warming seas are changing
792
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,960
where and where
those currents occur.
793
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,760
We all have theories as to
why we see more sharks now.
794
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,280
And I've had a dozen
encounters
795
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,800
in the last ten years
at least.
796
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:40,640
Do you foresee
797
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,360
more attacks
798
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,400
due to the changing climate
and the changing ecology
799
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,760
of the ocean?
800
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,840
Again, it's
very difficult to predict,
801
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,760
but I certainly
wouldn't be surprised.
802
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,040
With increasing warmer water,
you actually expect to see
803
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,480
mobile sharks spending longer
in the greater Sydney region
804
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,200
and even pushing further
south.
805
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,600
The other climate change
trigger was bull.
806
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,080
Sharks respond and move
to beaches during rain,
807
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,320
particularly flooding rain.
808
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,760
So the more flooding rain
you get, the more overlap
809
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,000
you expect a bull.
810
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,840
Sharks with surface,
the seasons are going longer.
811
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,280
That means people will be
spending more
812
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,600
and more time in the water.
813
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,560
So therefore, the chance
of a negative shark,
814
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,640
human interaction
also increases.
815
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,360
Australia's population is
going to continue to increase.
816
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,840
A lot of people
are going to go to the beaches
817
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,520
just to try and cool off.
818
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,960
More people in the water
819
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,200
equals the potential
for more shark bites.
820
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,920
Incredibly, just a day prior
to meeting with Dr.
821
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:34,680
McPhee,
822
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,680
my producer shocked me
with the news of another fatal
823
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,760
shark attack of
824
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,920
this time in Sydney
and the first in 60 years.
825
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,360
Dara, you are not going to
believe this
826
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,560
fatal shark attack
in Sydney who dies,
827
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,720
but they are first time
in 60 years
828
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,720
mauled to death by a man
eaters,
829
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,200
Great White,
the three of great
830
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,240
white celebrities in a video,
someone caught on film
831
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,040
got pretty full
on having worked in the E.R..
832
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,800
I've seen all sorts of trauma,
833
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,280
but nothing could have
prepared me
834
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,680
for the horrific scenes
835
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,680
as a five meter
great White mauled a swimmer.
836
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,160
So I've just seen
a really horrific video
837
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,720
of a fatal shark attack
in Sydney.
838
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,400
It's all over the newspapers
as well.
839
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,280
What's your take on that
absolutely horrific video?
840
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,280
It really puts things
in a context
841
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,320
that was clearly
a shark intent
842
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,240
on killing
that particular person.
843
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,640
It was a very
sustained attack.
844
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,560
And it just continued.
845
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,920
So there was obviously
motivation there.
846
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:32,400
We don't
847
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,720
tend to see that predatory
motivation that often from
848
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,640
great white sharks
in every sense of it.
849
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,840
It was an absolutely horrific
example of what can happen.
850
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,040
I guess the whole world
851
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,760
got to see the brutality
of a shark attack.
852
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:44,280
That's
853
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,000
I know that
854
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,240
I don't need to see
that tonight,
855
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,480
that having survived
856
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,040
a brutal attack himself
while out surfing,
857
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,120
Dave Pearson understands
the problem as well as anyone.
858
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,320
We got down the beach
and just the beach
859
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,760
that we always surf at.
860
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:57,640
When I was paddling out
861
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,680
after the third wave,
then just bang.
862
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,520
It was just
863
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,720
totally not expected
to hit me like a freight train
864
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:04,480
and it's bottom
865
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,480
jaw got stuck in my surfboard
on the way through.
866
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,480
All I remember
was tons of bubbles
867
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,640
and then something big
in front of me.
868
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,640
I was semi-conscious,
like I was so dazed.
869
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,520
I was looking down on my arm
and all of these muscles
870
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,040
was just hanging over
and the blood was squirting
871
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,240
probably 6
to 8 foot from the city.
872
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,360
The activity back over
and squeezing
873
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,760
as hard as I could
to just try and stem it
874
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,640
and ASM squeezing it,
squirting through my fingers.
875
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,920
And I'm thinking, well,
this isn't that good at all.
876
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,360
Just as I was
looking in the water,
877
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,200
I seen the shot
directly under me.
878
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,520
It was still probably only
879
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,520
two foot under the water
and it was like,
880
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,000
you know, five foot that way
and fight for that way.
881
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,960
It was big fish. shit,
I'm going to die today.
882
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,360
I was in a ton of pain,
but if you're in pain,
883
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:47,880
you're alive.
884
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,480
And I was pretty happy
about that.
885
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:50,040
Alarmed
886
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,440
at the rising
number of attacks
887
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,760
and the lack of post-traumatic
support,
888
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,000
Dave Pearson founded a support
group called the Fight Club.
889
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,600
The first year out of,
890
00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,880
you know, after a year attack,
891
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,200
it's a mental mess that
you don't need to get into.
892
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,160
And I searched to see
if there was any support
893
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,720
network and slating
894
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,080
got in touch with a few people
895
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,960
and it was really nice
to be able
896
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,720
to help people through
some really tough times.
897
00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:12,760
And and they've helped me
just as much.
898
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,720
Most of the climate
predictions I've been hearing
899
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:15,120
are that
900
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,520
Waters
are just going to continue
901
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,840
to get warmer
and warmer and warmer.
902
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,800
How problematic can this be
for surfers and people
903
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,120
who are in the ocean?
904
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,680
Potentially
extremely problematic.
905
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,440
We do know that
906
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,680
in amongst the information
on unprovoked shark bite,
907
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,840
there is a climate change
signal in that
908
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,840
there are some correlations
at times
909
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,760
concentrating
some white sharks
910
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,880
closer to that shoreline
and overlapping
911
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,120
more with people will expect
to see bites in Australia from
912
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,800
bull sharks and tiger sharks
to extend further south.
913
00:34:45,240 --> 00:34:48,240
And likewise, in the US
mainland, we expect to see
914
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,640
bull sharks and tiger shark
bites moving further north.
915
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,720
As the water gets warmer,
sharks are going to be moving.
916
00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:57,720
We're seeing
that distribution is changing.
917
00:34:57,720 --> 00:34:58,800
We're seeing it in
bull sharks.
918
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,720
We're seeing in tiger
sharks in Australia
919
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,440
and in other places
around the world.
920
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,440
So we will have to understand
921
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,680
that these sharks are going
to be popping up in places
922
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,360
that we haven't seen them
before.
923
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,120
The difference from
when I was younger to now,
924
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,080
it wasn't as many attacks,
that's for sure.
925
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,400
But now
926
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,320
there's a lot more awareness
about what's out there.
927
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,440
And we should be shark smart,
928
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,320
We should be smarter
about what we do
929
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,200
and not put ourselves
in a situation
930
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,280
could lead to us
being attacked too
931
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,440
as humans to change
their behavior is a big ask.
932
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,840
But I think that
what people just need to to do
933
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,840
is to be aware, to educate
themselves, to know the risk
934
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,960
and to do whatever they can
to mitigate against that risk.
935
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,520
We want to alter
an entire ecosystem
936
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,520
by calling sharks,
removing sharks.
937
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,160
So then we have a safer
environment for recreation.
938
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,240
It's kind of a bit
the height of human arrogance,
939
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:53,440
I think, for us to
940
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,040
think that, let's change
a whole ecosystem
941
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,280
for our pleasure.
942
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,800
So for that extra
peace of mind
943
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,840
and in fact extra
risk reduction,
944
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,920
there are
scientifically tested
945
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,880
shark deterrents
that do actually work,
946
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,400
but none of them are 100%
effective.
947
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,240
The risk of a shark
bite is low.
948
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:12,240
It will remain low,
but it will never be zero.
949
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,400
So now hitting
south down to Canberra
950
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,960
to see Professor Will Steffen.
951
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,360
He's an expert
in climate science.
952
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,360
It's amazing
that just two years ago
953
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,400
Australia had its worst
bushfire season on record.
954
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,640
Now we're driving through
955
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,560
what allegedly is a one
in 1000 year flood.
956
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,920
Evacuation warnings
have also been issued for
957
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,320
the environment
958
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:33,600
and a
959
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,520
danger
if you are trying around
960
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,800
anywhere
in the whole of an area.
961
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,800
This really is a land
of climate extremes.
962
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,680
So climate change
is basically a disruption
963
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,840
of the energy balance
at the surface of the earth.
964
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,560
We are changing
the energy balance
965
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,080
of the lower atmosphere
966
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,600
and of course it changes
circulation, changes
967
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,120
how rainfall and where
rainfall falls, it changes
968
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,960
extreme weather events and all
sorts of things like that.
969
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,880
What are the general
climate trends
970
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,440
that are happening here
in Australia?
971
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:02,800
Well, probably
the first and foremost
972
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,160
one is it's
getting hot, really hot.
973
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,720
So extreme heat is going up.
974
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:07,840
That's still the number one
975
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,840
killer of climate
related extreme.
976
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,680
And it's affecting
all of our capital cities.
977
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,240
It's affecting the bush,
affecting everything.
978
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:19,240
So it's this combination
of our coasts are changing.
979
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,320
We're heating wood
burning more.
980
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,880
When droughts come,
they are much more severe.
981
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,440
They tend to be longer
and they tend to be drier.
982
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,160
It's spreading around
the rest of the world, too.
983
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,960
But I think there's nowhere
like Australia
984
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,840
where climate change now
is so pervasive
985
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,840
in so many different ways
and to such extreme,
986
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,840
all the natural variability
we have is getting worse.
987
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,320
When storms
come, the packing more power,
988
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,800
when rain comes, it
rains more,
989
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,520
more runoff, higher flooding,
sea levels are coming
990
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,680
up, storm
surges are coming in.
991
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,960
The other thing
I think that makes Australia
992
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,160
so unique is
we've put a lot of our people
993
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,400
and infrastructure
in vulnerable places.
994
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,200
We love our coastlines.
995
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,400
So all of Australia's
major cities
996
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,520
except the one we're
in now, Canberra,
997
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,800
all the others are located on
the coast.
998
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,240
People
love to go down to the beach,
999
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:09,360
up to the houses on the coast,
but sea level is coming up.
1000
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,360
Storm
surges are becoming stronger.
1001
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,360
So we have a lot of
infrastructure,
1002
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,000
a lot of people at risk
from rising sea levels.
1003
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,200
So it's a combination
of a very erratic climate
1004
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,440
and just sort of
by the way we live,
1005
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,760
we've tended to put ourselves
in harm's way
1006
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,800
as the water continues
to warm.
1007
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,600
Professor Steffen
also has real concerns for the
1008
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,240
health of the Great Barrier
Reef.
1009
00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:32,040
Coral reefs are really, really
1010
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,640
in a very vulnerable position
now, and I think my prognosis
1011
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,640
is that not many of them
are going to survive.
1012
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,040
Remember also that the oceans
absorb 90% of the extra heat
1013
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,040
that we're generating
with greenhouse gases.
1014
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,920
Big ocean currents
are going to start to change,
1015
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,760
speeding up,
slowing or whatever.
1016
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,760
That's going to wreak havoc
with climate around the world.
1017
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,640
A lot of other continents,
they haven't experienced it
1018
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,280
like we're experiencing it,
but it's going to come.
1019
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,720
Are we in a climate emergency?
1020
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:00,840
Absolutely.
We're in a climate emergency.
1021
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,360
Temperatures are accelerating.
1022
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,200
Our emissions are increasing.
1023
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,120
So not only do
we have to reduce them,
1024
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:07,560
we've got to learn
1025
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,960
how slow them down
really fast,
1026
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,920
pick them and
get them going now.
1027
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,920
People don't appreciate
their health until it's gone.
1028
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,800
How do you personally feel
about the inaction
1029
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,440
that may be happening
for many people?
1030
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,960
Climate
change was theoretical.
1031
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,240
It was a science problem.
Something for the future.
1032
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:25,840
Exactly.
1033
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:26,960
As you say,
1034
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,800
it's only after you lose
something
1035
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,520
that you realize
how much you valued it,
1036
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,200
like your health, obviously.
1037
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,160
And then when I tell them
1038
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,160
that these major events
don't just change
1039
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,480
linearly as an even group,
they go up sharply.
1040
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,480
And so 1.5, it's
going to be much more than 50%
1041
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,840
worse than one
1042
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,040
and two degrees
is going to be far worse
1043
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,040
than double
what's happening at one.
1044
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,240
And then I reminded
1045
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:51,720
just remember
the last couple of years
1046
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:54,000
what was happening
at one degree.
1047
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,360
We still have
a fighting chance,
1048
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,320
but we've got to move fast.
1049
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,000
Despite all the negativity,
1050
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,200
Professor Stephan
hasn't given up all hope
1051
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,720
just yet and is encouraged
1052
00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:05,000
by the attitude of the world's
youth.
1053
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,120
We see all sorts
of what I call
1054
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,240
trusted voices
now standing up.
1055
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:12,080
It's hard for people to forget
about what
1056
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,600
the young people are saying,
saying It's our future.
1057
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,080
You older people are in charge
of making sure
1058
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,360
we have a future
and you're failing us.
1059
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,760
That's a strong message.
1060
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,240
But medical people are
speaking out like yourself.
1061
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:25,800
Firies are speaking out.
1062
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,360
Farmers speaking out.
1063
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,040
Sportspeople are speaking out.
1064
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,800
So this idea that we need to
move and we need to move past
1065
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,720
is permeating
many aspects of our society.
1066
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:38,040
And it's not unique
to Australia.
1067
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,040
It's happening in
other parts of the world too.
1068
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,800
Can we get to the social
tipping point in time?
1069
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,280
I don't have the answer,
but every day
1070
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,200
when I see someone else
speaking out,
1071
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,880
it gives me some
hope that we might get there.
1072
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,320
Greg Mullins
1073
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,320
The son of a fireman
and a fireman himself
1074
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,360
with over
50 years of experience
1075
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,400
fighting fires on the front
line,
1076
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,080
was so alarmed
by climate change
1077
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,920
and its effects on bushfire,
1078
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,640
he felt compelled to write
a book called Firestorm.
1079
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,160
When I first became
a firefighter,
1080
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,920
nobody was talking
about climate change.
1081
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,280
It wasn't even on the radar.
1082
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,520
And my father taught me
about the fire seasons
1083
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:15,800
and patterns of weather.
1084
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,760
What I'm seeing across
the world is
1085
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,040
climate change is driving up
1086
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,120
temperatures, it's
drying out forests, even wet
1087
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,000
rainforests never used to burn
1088
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,880
for millions of years,
couldn't burn.
1089
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:27,840
Now they're burning.
1090
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,600
So this problem is getting
bigger and bigger and bigger.
1091
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,840
Wildfires
get turned on by particular
1092
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,160
types of conditions.
1093
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,840
It's the increase
in those conditions,
1094
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,040
the dryness,
the amount of tinder,
1095
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,280
the temperature
1096
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,240
that are driving
this sort of cycle of fires.
1097
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:45,600
In the summer of 2019 2020,
climate change
1098
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,240
came to a head in Australia
1099
00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:47,880
when the east
1100
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,880
coast of the country
literally went up in flames.
1101
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,160
It was a fire so intense,
so catastrophic
1102
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,240
and so widespread
it would change
1103
00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:59,160
Australia's view
on climate change forever.
1104
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,960
It was a fire so devastating
1105
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,960
it would make the whole world
stand up and take notice.
1106
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,640
Stretching right
along the east coast
1107
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,280
of Australia
and burning for over
1108
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,000
six months, the fire would
become known as Black Summer.
1109
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,240
If you look up the Australian
east coast from Victoria
1110
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:16,400
up through to southern
and central Queensland,
1111
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,160
on average about two
or 3% of those forests
1112
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,040
burn every year.
That is a normal bushfire.
1113
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,880
Some were equipped
to handle it.
1114
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,440
Firefighters
couldn't go out and deal
1115
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,560
with a wildlife
can deal with it.
1116
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,360
That's the way ecology works.
1117
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,360
While 2019
and 2020 came along, we jumped
1118
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:38,080
from two or three or 4% to 21%
burnt in one year.
1119
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,520
We had our hottest,
driest year ever
1120
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:41,720
recorded in Australia,
1121
00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:44,840
so it was far more severe
than any previous drought.
1122
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,440
So they're saying it was
the worst drought on record.
1123
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,160
The forest
became critically dry
1124
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,440
and the temperatures became
1125
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,560
critically hot
at the same time.
1126
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,360
So it crossed the threshold
in which
1127
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,120
the fires were uncontrollable.
1128
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,760
There was so much fire
activity
1129
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,040
going on over
such a large area
1130
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,080
from the top of the state
1131
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,160
all the way down into Victoria
1132
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,280
over such an extended
period of time.
1133
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,800
It was months and months,
1134
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,640
consistent devastation,
consistent destruction
1135
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,880
on a scale that we hadn't
seen ever before.
1136
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,360
Not just the sheer
scale of them,
1137
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,800
but the length of time
they went for rather
1138
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,000
fighting fires.
Over two or three months.
1139
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,600
We were fighting fires
1140
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,400
in some areas from August
right through to the end
1141
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,640
of February and the march.
1142
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:25,240
I saw
1143
00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:29,400
kangaroos on dying on fire,
coming out of blazing forests
1144
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,640
and they know how to get away.
1145
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,400
They know where the water is
1146
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,880
and they fast
that the fires at random.
1147
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,240
What I heard was so loud
that I turned around
1148
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:40,680
and was confronted
with a world flame
1149
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,920
unlike I'd ever seen this
enormous explosion of power.
1150
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,840
And it was it was deafening.
1151
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,840
People were trapped
and had to make for the sea.
1152
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,400
We're standing on the beaches.
1153
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,120
As fires were bearing down,
the Navy had to come in,
1154
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:53,880
bring them out.
1155
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,200
We had a pyro convective storm
above us, which used to be
1156
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,280
something of legend.
1157
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,200
You know, all my time
1158
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,120
fighting fires.
I've never seen that now
1159
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,960
so common during that fire
season.
1160
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,840
There was one instance
during the fires
1161
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,280
where an eight tonne fire
truck was picked up
1162
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,920
and dumped on its race
and killed one firefighter.
1163
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:11,520
I can show you
1164
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,480
an image of flames
that are 50, 60 meters high.
1165
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,880
Within sight of Canberra,
1166
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,000
we were within hours
of having 40 and 50,000
1167
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,080
people trapped.
1168
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:21,440
I don't know
1169
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,280
how many people
realized the situation,
1170
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,200
but I was really sweating
that night.
1171
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,240
In the time
I've been in the fire service,
1172
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:29,200
I've seen some really
significant fires,
1173
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,520
never to the scale
of the amount of fires
1174
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,920
and five and a half million
hectares that were burnt here
1175
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,840
in New South Wales
by far and away exceeds
1176
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,520
what we've ever dealt with
before.
1177
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,800
No firefighting organization
on this planet
1178
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,320
could have dealt
with those fires.
1179
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,320
We're
now talking about mega-fires,
1180
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,320
things that are going for
for longer, hotter,
1181
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,840
more intense, more threatening
and so on.
1182
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,800
We're seeing these things
start to amplify.
1183
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,200
We lost 2470 times, 11 times
1184
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,680
more than any previous fires
in history in this state.
1185
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:00,560
Fires are now
1186
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,560
appearing in ecosystems
and regions of Australia
1187
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:04,920
that they hadn't before.
1188
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,440
So in addition
to the intensity of huge fires
1189
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,200
in the eucalypts, other force
1190
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,960
which didn't burn
are starting to burn.
1191
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,800
Why? Because they're having
extended dry periods
1192
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:14,760
and then heat.
1193
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,400
There's big parts of this
state where there's nothing
1194
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,120
there you go
there, there's not even birds.
1195
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,720
It's sterilized because it's
the hundreds of kilometers.
1196
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:24,720
It's just blackened
and everything died.
1197
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,040
So our scientists are saying
there's
1198
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,080
never been anything like this
or as widespread
1199
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:29,880
as this or as intense disease.
1200
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,960
And so a firefighter
who's been on the front lines
1201
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,640
for 15 years, I've never seen
anything like it.
1202
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:36,200
There's now
1203
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,800
very strong evidence
that they wouldn't
1204
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,960
have occurred
without climate change.
1205
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,200
Well, as you know,
as I mentioned,
1206
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,120
we're a fire prone continent
anyway.
1207
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,240
But normally that would be
1208
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:46,360
maybe three
or 4% of the force burned.
1209
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,520
And you went back
1210
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,560
three decades
and you saw this oscillation
1211
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,360
and then you saw over
the last decade,
1212
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,600
it kept creeping
up, up and up.
1213
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:54,360
And up.
1214
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,040
And by the time 2019 came by,
1215
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,760
it was probably
at the 99th percentile.
1216
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,040
In other words,
above anything else
1217
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,960
in terms of the combination
of drought and heat.
1218
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,320
It's easy to say,
well, we've had fires before.
1219
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,480
I definitely consider the fact
that major fire events
1220
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,480
are inevitable,
but the climate change
1221
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,000
is making it so much worse.
1222
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,840
We haven't seen it
on this scale before
1223
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,920
and this is why we should be
paying more attention to it.
1224
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,320
Climate change
1225
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,880
just shoved the temperature
that much too high.
1226
00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:23,680
The drought
1227
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,080
was that much to try
and the whole thing took off.
1228
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,760
Bushfires
not only threaten ecosystems
1229
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,360
and whole communities,
1230
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,360
they also have a devastating
effect on human health.
1231
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:36,520
During our fires, 33
1232
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,160
people were killed,
including nine spots on us.
1233
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,800
I was actually standing
1234
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,560
because I thought
there'd be thousand, but
1235
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,280
450 people died
from the effects of smoke.
1236
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,000
So major capital cities of
Sydney, Melbourne and Canberra
1237
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,720
were just covered in smiles.
1238
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:54,480
I understand
there was some studies done
1239
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:55,440
that showed
1240
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,360
once that got it
up into the upper atmosphere,
1241
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,520
that smoke was actually
circling the planet.
1242
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,920
We saw heavy, heavy effects of
smoke impact on human health
1243
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,120
for months on end.
1244
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,120
So it was very much
1245
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:06,960
not only that
1246
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,080
immediate effect
of how far the smoke would go,
1247
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,040
but the cumulative effect
as well.
1248
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,680
One night
I was delivering a baby
1249
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,000
when little spotlight
1250
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,200
and it was just running
through smoke,
1251
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:22,120
and we realized that the whole
birth room was full of thick
1252
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:24,000
smoke.
1253
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,880
As people
start to inhale more smoke.
1254
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,200
And we saw massive increases
in hospitalizations
1255
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,200
during the bushfires
1256
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,920
in Sydney delivered babies
who ended up in the need
1257
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,080
of UCERIS at rates that
I had not experienced before.
1258
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,600
Our health is being impacted
across the globe yet
1259
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,840
there doesn't seem to be
the action that's needed yet.
1260
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,040
It's impossible for the world
to function in people
1261
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:51,240
that it isn't a
theoretical future
1262
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,800
threat to people
that people are living in now.
1263
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,080
We are seeing heatwaves,
1264
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,560
we see bushfire
smoke affecting people
1265
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,800
and people are very anxious
about their children's health.
1266
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:02,880
So it's really
1267
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,880
been an extraordinary changing
philosophy.
1268
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,120
Was Black Summer a warning
for the rest of the world
1269
00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:10,560
caught? Most definitely.
1270
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:11,880
And soon after that
1271
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,960
California burned yet again
and tied together.
1272
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,080
So there were big warnings
and no human being
1273
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,720
has fought fires
in those conditions before.
1274
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:23,640
We're heading for 2.7 degrees,
1275
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,720
which is catastrophic
for the human race.
1276
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:27,000
Indigenous Australians
1277
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,240
have been successfully
managing the environment
1278
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:30,440
with controlled burns
1279
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,640
for thousands of years
and it's a practice
1280
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,040
that the Western world
can learn from.
1281
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,440
Europeans have been here
for about 200 years
1282
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,320
and for 60,000 years
before that.
1283
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:40,520
The Indigenous people
1284
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,000
managed the land and healed
1285
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,720
the land and we've screwed it
up in just 200 years.
1286
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:49,320
So what can
1287
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,440
the indigenous of this land
teach us about fires?
1288
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:53,280
Well,
1289
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,200
I believe there's
a lot of buildup of fuel
1290
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,120
and that's
creating a lot of fires.
1291
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,600
Once that fire goes,
it's pretty hard to sort out
1292
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:00,960
if you've got a lot of fuel
around.
1293
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,720
The cultural burning really
does have a place.
1294
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:05,080
The more we can
1295
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,480
look at how it integrates
1296
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,720
into our fire management
practices.
1297
00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:11,880
Now I think the law wind from
the bushfires
1298
00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:15,240
can be reduced If we do
a lot of traditional banning.
1299
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,800
We just don't go walking in
and burning
1300
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,600
the whole
we burn certain areas, section
1301
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,840
by section so we don't create
a big mega bushfire.
1302
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,480
Cultural burning
has much deeper meaning
1303
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,320
than a just been as simple
as saying
1304
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,200
it's a good way
to do hazard reduction.
1305
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,880
Why is it required?
1306
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,600
What is
the connection to country?
1307
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,560
Climate change
is having such an impact
1308
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,960
on the severity of fires
in Australia.
1309
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,720
It's forced the authorities
to extend the fire danger
1310
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:45,600
rating from extreme
to catastrophic.
1311
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,080
It's an algorithm
that takes maximum
1312
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:49,840
temperature,
1313
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,840
lowest relative humidity,
the moisture in the air,
1314
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:53,760
highest wind
1315
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,760
speed and a drought factor
number of days since rain
1316
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,160
jumps it all up
and comes up with a number
1317
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,400
between one and 100.
1318
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,120
The Fire Authorities
council decided together
1319
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,200
with the federal government,
we need a new category.
1320
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,200
Once it gets to catastrophic
leave the day before.
1321
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,160
I think more
than any single incident,
1322
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,680
that is the one that's
got people realizing
1323
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,480
that climate change
is not only real,
1324
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:18,960
it's not something
for the future.
1325
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,680
We continue to learn more
1326
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,160
and hopefully we can implement
those learnings
1327
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,720
to better mitigate the risks
1328
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:27,400
so we now know what
the New West is
1329
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,280
and we need to be getting
ready to deal with that.
1330
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:30,880
Or worse.
1331
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,960
The thing that gives
me hope for the future is
1332
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,240
children are utterly focused
1333
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:45,240
on the health of the planet
in a way that never happened
1334
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,160
when I was a kid.
1335
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,920
They want ethical
1336
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,280
and responsible
environmental stewardship.
1337
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,040
I see that fundamental
to the way the watch work.
1338
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,920
Watching my kids
fire up about climate change
1339
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,200
is really exciting.
1340
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,600
This generation cares
a lot about the climate.
1341
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,720
It is quite an exciting time,
1342
00:51:03,720 --> 00:51:05,240
especially for kids
coming through now
1343
00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:08,000
because the answers will be
science and technology.
1344
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,080
Everything's been looked at.
1345
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,440
Nothing's off the table
for climate change.
1346
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,200
It's not something
for the future.
1347
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,360
This continent is
probably the most vulnerable,
1348
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,440
and we're feeling that
right now.
1349
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,440
There is a huge capacity
for us to solve problems.
1350
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:24,480
If we consider them
to be problems we're solving.
1351
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,000
We need to make sure
that people realize that
1352
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,160
this is a problem
worth solving
1353
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,160
because it's the planet
1354
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,200
upon which we live on
and there is no other planet.
1355
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,280
But we have a moral
responsibility
1356
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,240
to take care of those
most vulnerable
1357
00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:40,840
and to hand our kids a future
that we want to be proud of.
1358
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,080
Treat it as an emergency
and go on a wartime footing
1359
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:46,800
to turn this around.
1360
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,200
Anyone who is involved
in delivering babies
1361
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,840
and delivering
a new generation
1362
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,120
has an interest
in making sure the babies
1363
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,440
we deliver their children
have the healthiest possible
1364
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:58,720
starting lives.
1365
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:01,200
We must get on
with the solutions
1366
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,480
if only for the kids.
1367
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,360
I mean,
you think about children
1368
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:06,560
and what we're leaving them.
1369
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,720
That's
the great moral argument.
1370
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:11,600
Do you think as physicians,
we should be leading
1371
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,040
the charge
in the climate emergency?
1372
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,440
It is our absolute
responsibility
1373
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,800
to make sure that we are
in the lead.
1374
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,800
Both advocacy and in how
we live our own lives
1375
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,160
and how we treat patients.
1376
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:26,680
We need people power.
1377
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,680
Humans
need to take responsibility,
1378
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,160
and it'll come back in terms
of the health benefits for us
1379
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:32,800
because it's not all over.
1380
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:33,960
But it is one of those grand
1381
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:38,040
challenges that we must meet
and we are staying away from.
1382
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,280
The solutions
is not an option.
1383
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,280
I've learned
a lot about climate change
1384
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:45,720
in my time Down Under
1385
00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:46,920
and how it's affecting health
1386
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,560
in ways
I never thought possible.
1387
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,600
I've also seen that now
more than ever,
1388
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,720
I'm hopeful we will act
because when it's our health,
1389
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:56,560
we can't afford to wait.
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