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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,120 Climate change is not only 2 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,160 affecting the health of the planet. 3 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,560 It's also affecting human health. 4 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:23,880 Planet Earth. 5 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,320 We have a problem. 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,720 Absolutely. We're in a climate emergency. 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,640 Climate change is doing more than just melting 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,800 ice caps and bleaching coral. 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,000 It's making us sick. 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,520 Everybody is being impacted. You name it. 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:36,800 Everything is changing. 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,080 The number one threat to humans. 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,120 Hi, my name is Dr. Dara O'Carroll 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,720 and I'm an emergency and disaster physician. 15 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,480 And I've seen the effects of climate change firsthand. 16 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:49,040 We're getting more extremes, not less. 17 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,960 Chronic fatigue of all of us. 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,680 That's when all hell is going to break loose. 19 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,400 Join me as I travel the global 20 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,040 eating world experts as they sound the alarm, 21 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,840 seeking solutions to some of the world's 22 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,800 most pressing health issues. 23 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,920 Even going beyond two degrees is going to be catastrophic. 24 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,400 We still have a fighting chance, 25 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,080 but we've got to move fast now 26 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:30,520 and in today's 27 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:31,320 program, we 28 00:01:31,320 --> 00:01:33,400 head down under to the Great Barrier 29 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,760 Reef to see how climate change is affecting 30 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,800 one of the natural wonders of the world 31 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,200 and what it means for human health. 32 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,480 We'll follow the deadly Irukandji jellyfish, 33 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,440 one of the world's most venomous creatures 34 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,200 as it trek south directly into the path of populated areas. 35 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:48,960 We investigate 36 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:49,960 the role climate change 37 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,960 is playing on the rising number of fatal shark attacks. 38 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,840 Before I go into total meltdown 39 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,560 during a debilitating heat chamber experiment 40 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,000 and finally will confront a mega bushfire, 41 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,120 one so catastrophic it will transform the way 42 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,120 people view climate change forever. 43 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,600 Nowhere in the world is climate change 44 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,600 having more of an effect than here in Australia. 45 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,080 The early 20th century poet Dorothea McKellar once wrote 46 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,840 I love a sunburnt country, a land of sweeping plains, 47 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,840 of ragged mountain ranges, of droughts and flooding rains. 48 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,080 You see, Australia has always been a land of extremes. 49 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,840 But today, things are getting much worse. 50 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,480 More than any other developed nation in the world. 51 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,000 Australia is rapidly changing. 52 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,000 Climate is impacting the health of its own citizens 53 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,920 and doctors around the country are sounding the alarm. 54 00:02:40,920 --> 00:02:43,320 Temperature of the planet is changing 55 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:44,520 in a way that it hasn't 56 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,520 changed for thousands, if not millions of years. 57 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,880 That's being driven by greenhouse gases 58 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,880 which are coming from human activities mainly. 59 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,240 And that the prognosis 60 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,520 for the future on our current trajectory is pretty grim. 61 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,720 Despite the bad news, there is a way out of this, 62 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,000 but we've got to act decisively now. 63 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,640 Projections I've seen show that 64 00:03:05,640 --> 00:03:06,920 if we don't get climate change 65 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:07,920 under control, in other words, 66 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:10,680 if global average temperatures go to three degrees or more, 67 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,720 there will be large swaths of Australia 68 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,560 which will simply be uninhabitable. 69 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,480 I see climate change not as a planetary issue, but 70 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,480 as a human issue, one that's impacting public health today 71 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,000 and that threatens to impact the very future of our kids. 72 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,520 The single greatest health challenge that health care 73 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,120 workers globally will have to face is climate change. 74 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:37,720 One of the 75 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,520 consequences of climate change is the loss of biodiversity. 76 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,640 Ground zero for this loss is our world to reefs, 77 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,000 and nowhere is experiencing it 78 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,120 faster than the Great Barrier Reef, 79 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,400 which supports the richest, 80 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,520 most complex natural ecosystem on the planet. 81 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,320 Dying coral is not just an esthetic loss. 82 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,520 It also jeopardizes 83 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,680 the discovery of future medicines 84 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,560 and threatens the livelihood of coastal 85 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,040 populations who rely on reefs for food and habitat. 86 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,400 So I just arrived in Cairns here in the tropical north 87 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,400 of Australia at the gateway to the Great Barrier Reef. 88 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:12,360 This is one of the only 89 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,720 places in the world where lush rainforest meets 90 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,600 coral and sustain such a high degree of biodiversity. 91 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,000 What a lot of people aren't realizing, though, 92 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,720 is that climate change is affecting this area 93 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,280 but also having tremendous consequences for human health. 94 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:33,000 About 40% of non therapeutic drugs come from nature. 95 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,640 We're going to miss some major opportunities 96 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,640 if we let climate change escalate 97 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,640 and continue to decimate our biodiversity. 98 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,200 I mean, Australia is one of 17 negative worst countries 99 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,120 in the world. 100 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,440 We want to protect more than just Australia. 101 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,960 We want to protect all of those 17 countries. 102 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,960 But climate change is causing some major problems there 103 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,000 and we're losing medicines of the future. 104 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:57,960 I've arranged to meet up 105 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,440 with marine biologist Richard Fitzpatrick, 106 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,040 who's offered to 107 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,800 take biochemists Rowan Davis and I out on an exploratory 108 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,440 dive on the Great Barrier Reef 109 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:10,360 Institute. 110 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,200 Hey, Paul, this is Darren with Rich Scots. 111 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,000 We're heading down to you now. 112 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,760 We're going to Marlin Marino. 113 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:17,960 Is that correct? 114 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,800 That's correct. 115 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,520 It's not long before we leave the port city of Cairns 116 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:24,320 and make our way out 117 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,320 into the vast expanse of the Coral Sea. 118 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,600 From the surface, everything appears is normal. 119 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,000 But due to recent changes in the climate, 120 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,880 the water temperature in this part of the world 121 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,400 has been rapidly increasing, resulting 122 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,400 in a disastrous series of coral bleaching events. 123 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,040 All right, Richard, these are these are your waters 124 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,040 or where exactly we are. 125 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,600 This is textured reef, 126 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,880 so it's what we call a mitchell freak. 127 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,720 So they had to race another hour at that way. 128 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,760 Just travel 2 hours to get here. 129 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,200 But these Mitchell freaks are the ones 130 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,200 that really got hammered by the coral bleaching events. 131 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,600 And so what you're going to see today is a recovering 132 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:05,960 from those events. 133 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:06,880 There were a couple of years ago 134 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,800 near it, and the Barrier Reef actually had a barrier. 135 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:12,960 We've got this back lagoon area and that's 136 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,120 where the thermal load just increased. 137 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,880 And there's just mass bleaching. 138 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,920 How long does it take for that bleaching to happen 139 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,960 and how long does it take to recover? 140 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,760 Well, for a reef to really fully recover 141 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,560 after a destructive event takes about 15 to 20 years. 142 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:27,960 Well, 143 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:28,600 so destructive 144 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,600 around the events on the reef you have cyclones. 145 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,240 Crown of thorns. And now we have bleaching. 146 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,320 But destruction is part of construction. 147 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,840 You know, you do need corals to get reduced to rubble 148 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:41,840 that can fill in the spaces for a reef to grow. 149 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,600 But it's that balance between growth in and destruction 150 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:46,840 at the moment 151 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:48,800 with the climate change, it's all out of whack. 152 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,200 It's too much destruction. 153 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,200 Yeah, and the destructive events are now too frequent. 154 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,560 So the corals can recover. 155 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,400 But if the stress 156 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,160 from the temperature last too long, 157 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,960 those corals will just starve and die. 158 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:01,800 But the issue 159 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,800 that the Barrier Reef is facing is the right of change, 160 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,160 is too fast for 161 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,160 natural evolutionary processes to keep up with. 162 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,720 It's the rate of climate change. 163 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,280 It's just unprecedented. 164 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:13,800 So literally the longer 165 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,840 we wait, the worse it's going to be, 166 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,000 because at the moment us doing nothing is kicking 167 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,000 the can down the road for future generations. 168 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:21,680 I'd heard 169 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,160 so much about the Great Barrier 170 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,080 Reef, the largest living structure on earth, 171 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,720 and I was just excited to see it 172 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,960 and experience it for myself with everything in order. 173 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,560 Rohan Richardson I set off to explore. 174 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,720 What immediately struck me was the contrast 175 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,240 between healthy, vibrant coral 176 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,400 and the skeletal remains of dead and bleached coral, 177 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,400 which look more like a pile of rubbish. 178 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,120 If anyone has any doubts that the reef is in trouble, 179 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,440 I'm here to tell you that the threat is serious 180 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:59,880 and is very real. 181 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,000 To me it looks I know not a reef expert, but 182 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,240 I saw a lot of say my health healthy coral, some not. 183 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,640 Sounds like you're a reef expert. 184 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,280 It's exactly what it was. 185 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:11,680 It's a recovering reef. 186 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,720 There's a lot of death. 187 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,840 So we went over that big rubble bit, 188 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,200 and I was pointing to an ongoing, you know, no good. 189 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:19,200 Then right at the end of it, 190 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,680 we saw that big, beautiful candelabra of staghorn coral. 191 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,600 Right. 192 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,080 That's what that whole area would have been like 193 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,880 if we don't have any more destructive events in another. 194 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,440 So ten years, you go in there and go, it's amazing. 195 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,720 But what you're seeing is, is a recent recovery, right? 196 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,320 Personally, I'm like, how does that make you feel? 197 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:39,800 Or somebody who's been, 198 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,400 you know, diving these waters for how long? 199 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,320 You have both mixed emotions like sadness, 200 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,040 because you can see in your mind's eye 201 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,040 what it was, how great it would have been. 202 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,960 But then you see bits of hope with all these new recruits 203 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:52,400 coming in 204 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:53,800 and that have weathered 205 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,520 all these storms that are hanging in there and 206 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:56,920 and they are trying to recolonize. 207 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,960 So it's the yin and the yang. Right. 208 00:08:58,960 --> 00:08:59,760 And I find 209 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,800 that nearly everywhere I go now, diving on the reef alone. 210 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,560 What do you think when you see that 211 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:08,040 as that's your territory into grabbing 212 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,440 and getting future pharmaceuticals? 213 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:11,360 I could definitely see 214 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,280 a lot of harm destruction there and a lot of, you know, 215 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,280 loss of biodiversity, especially on 216 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,280 top of the Coral bombing, where a lot of that 217 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,120 that marine life was essentially dead. 218 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,520 But I saw snippets of, 219 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:25,920 you know, optimism as well 220 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,560 as life as we moved around the whole me, there was 221 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:30,840 some sponges in the city and that caught my eye. 222 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,520 And these are two marine organisms that we know 223 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,160 produce interesting compounds 224 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,160 that might one day developed into medicines. 225 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,040 It's a real race against time for you 226 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,680 then to get this stuff in the can. 227 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:44,240 Well, it's really we've already lost 228 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,560 a magnitude of those before they're even destroyed. 229 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,280 You know, that's what's really sad is like, 230 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,840 you know, marine biology is a relatively new science. 231 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:53,040 You know, 232 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,920 it's only since we've been able to blow bubbles 233 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,120 carrying these things on our back. 234 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,520 For the last 40 years, we've been sticking 235 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:58,920 our heads under the sink. 236 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,320 We lose that before we even get a chance to collect. 237 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,440 Describe it, analyze it. 238 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:05,320 It's tragic. 239 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,160 We are playing catch up 240 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,080 and we're we're running out of time. 241 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,040 Really. 242 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,640 These these new species 243 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,960 could be sources of medicines, of the future. 244 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,600 And much of our science has been biased 245 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,680 in the shallow water, you know, the top 20 meters. 246 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:20,440 The stuff below that 247 00:10:21,560 --> 00:10:23,080 hasn't been touched at all. 248 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,320 We've only just had our first ever full 249 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,560 comprehensive deep sea survey on the inside of the reef. 250 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,840 There's stuff down there that will never be known. 251 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,760 It'll be gone before, you know. 252 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,680 So who knows what we're losing, right? 253 00:10:35,680 --> 00:10:39,040 Exactly where it's got to be, to our detriment. 254 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,520 Great Barrier Reef. 255 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:42,640 How well it's going to hold up 256 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:43,760 as the canary in the coal mine. 257 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,600 It's all ecosystems, right? 258 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,040 But yeah, you lose the reef. 259 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,400 You know, most of the world's populations live 260 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,000 on the edge of the water in the tropics. 261 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,680 Every part of their life comes from the reef that goes. 262 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,040 And you've got 263 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,040 literally billions of people will start starving. 264 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,240 The reef guys erodes away, The mangroves go at heart. 265 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,400 More high energy storms, erosion storms. 266 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:09,400 We just 267 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,760 I can see as a physician, that's extremely frustrating. 268 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:12,800 So I can appreciate 269 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,400 as you guys, people ignoring the science 270 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,040 and seeing the consequences down there. 271 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,320 Like that's going to be incredibly frustrating. Yeah. 272 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,240 So so what is the solution to all this? 273 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:22,720 I think humanity has to be 274 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,720 faced with absolute crises sometimes before we react. 275 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,440 But the crisis is happening now. 276 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,880 It's just hidden because it's, you know, below the water. 277 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:30,840 And that's why it's so important 278 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,920 for the science and even the media 279 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,360 to get the stories out. 280 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,480 It just to mobilize people. 281 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,800 But I think, you know, humanity, we're pretty smart, 282 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,440 You know, in science and engineering. 283 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,120 It's not like we don't have 284 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,200 the components out there to start fixing things. 285 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:47,360 It's just the will, right? 286 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,880 You don't appreciate good health until you lose it. 287 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,200 And so this hopefully not get to the point where we lose 288 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,800 everything is the key to the game. 289 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,360 Alarmed at how much destruction 290 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,760 I saw while diving out on the reef, 291 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,800 I wanted to speak further with Roland Davis 292 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,720 about the medicines we could potentially 293 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,560 be losing in the future. 294 00:12:05,560 --> 00:12:06,960 What is it about Queensland? 295 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,080 I know we've got rainforest right on top of the huge 296 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:10,920 Great Barrier Reef. 297 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,680 What is it about this state that has such a wealth 298 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:16,280 of potential? This area 299 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:18,640 is just it's one of the most 300 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,640 biodiverse regions in in Australia. 301 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,520 We've got so many different ecosystems 302 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,320 and those ecosystems 303 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,200 hold this unique biodiversity 304 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,320 that as a natural products chemist I want to go and study 305 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,280 and I have high hopes that in the future 306 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,520 we're going to find new drugs from these unique locations. 307 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,280 So how much of our new pharmaceuticals 308 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:42,600 are coming from nature? 309 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:47,080 About 40% of non-therapeutic drugs come from nature. 310 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,760 They're either natural products or derivatives. 311 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,360 There's some wonderful examples out there. 312 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,840 Probably most people know about morphine from the opium 313 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,240 poppy, which has pain control, controlling properties 314 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:03,120 as a way to safeguard flora and fauna. 315 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,040 Rowan established a nature bank 316 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,400 to develop medicines into the future. 317 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,360 So nature banks, a collection of the biota, 318 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,560 biota, meaning plants and marine organisms 319 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:15,800 that we've gone and collected 320 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,800 over the last two decades here in the state of Queensland. 321 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,080 And they're set aside for future generations 322 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,880 of scientists to work on. 323 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,640 So if I don't make the big discovery in the future, 324 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,840 I hope that someone else does from these natural resources. 325 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:31,840 We've had some really interesting 326 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,760 discoveries over the last couple of years 327 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,120 with this nature bang collection 328 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,480 when climate change is threatening our biodiversity. 329 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,040 Are you telling me that it's threatening 330 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,240 our potential pharmaceutical and future medicines? 331 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,160 Well, and truly, yeah. 332 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,400 Every time we lose a species, we could be losing 333 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,840 a potential drug or therapy of the future. 334 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,480 So how do you personally feel that your work 335 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,840 is being compromised by our changing climate? 336 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:01,880 It's upsetting. 337 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:06,480 It spurs us on to to make sure we we collect these samples 338 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,040 while we still can for future generations of scientists. 339 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,320 These samples, while we may not get to use them, 340 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,280 our future scientists will 341 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,440 and they'll make the new discoveries 342 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:18,120 that are needed 343 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,760 to treat certain human diseases in the world. 344 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,880 Another powerful example of the threat posed 345 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,120 by climate change in this part of the world 346 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,040 is the Irukandji jellyfish, 347 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,040 one of the most venomous creatures on the planet. 348 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,520 As a water gets warmer here in the tropical north, 349 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,520 the Irukandji are not only appearing for longer periods, 350 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:39,600 they're also pushing 351 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,040 further south directly into the path of major cities. 352 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,840 It's a recipe for disaster. 353 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,520 All right, big red warning. 354 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:48,840 These are tropical waters. 355 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,400 We're presence of dangerous jellyfish as possible. 356 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,200 Calm seas, northerly winds 357 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,200 and high temperatures favor the presence of stingers, 358 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,200 but other conditions do not guarantee their absence. 359 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,280 Persons entering these waters do so at their own risk. 360 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,240 I mean, this is one of the major 361 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,080 tourist areas of northern Australia. 362 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,080 This is Palm Cove. 363 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,600 I've seen this sign and many other 364 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,080 signs up and down this beach 365 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,120 to find out more. 366 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,240 I had to visit Dr. 367 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:14,360 Jamie Seymour, 368 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,480 the world's leading expert in Irukandji jellyfish. 369 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,080 For a creature with such a fearsome reputation. 370 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,080 I was immediately surprised at just how small they are. 371 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,800 But that's a full grown animal. 372 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,640 This is it. Let's see. They're tiny. 373 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:28,400 Yeah. Yeah. 374 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:28,800 And that's. 375 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,040 I mean, that's the first thing that catches most people. 376 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:32,320 And I mean, yes, 377 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,440 they're on the bottom of the evolutionary tree, 378 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,440 but these things are seriously sophisticated animals. 379 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:38,640 From a pain point of view. 380 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,800 It's probably up there with the world's worst venom. 381 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:41,640 Full stop. 382 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,560 And to give you some idea. 383 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,000 Zero. No pain. Ten. The most you can imagine. 384 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,720 My last trip with one of these guys 385 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,160 I had the pain of that for. So you were stunned. 386 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,120 I've been down that trip 11 times. 387 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,640 Never, ever want to go there, ever. In the beginning. 388 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:55,520 It's horrific. 389 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,560 If someone had given me a gun at that point in time, 390 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,400 I was a seriously debilitating pain. 391 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,720 It's it's hard to get it across to people 392 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,200 to physically be me. 393 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,520 But the world's worst pain. 394 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,480 You're getting close in Cairns. 395 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:10,520 On average, 396 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,240 we put 30 to 50 people 397 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,160 in hospital a year from Irukandji stings. 398 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,440 That's just Queensland. 399 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,120 The problem is if you're stung, 400 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,480 you're going to hospital. 401 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:19,800 It doesn't matter whether it's a millimeter 402 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,720 tentacle or 20 centimeters. 403 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,160 If you're off the hospital, end of story. 404 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,360 I've had to personally warn people 405 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,480 and they have their babies in the, 406 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,360 you know, on the shoreline and waiting in those waters. 407 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,640 So there's a real, real risk and threat to loss of life 408 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:34,320 from that. 409 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,000 But the problems that you have is that we've got an idea 410 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,000 in Cairns, but this is geographic specific. 411 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:42,520 There's now a direct link 412 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,600 between warming water and both the length 413 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,160 of the Irukandji season and their movement. 414 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:48,080 Further south 415 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,080 we found was the season back in 1960 was about one 416 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,320 or two months long. 417 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,520 So the jellyfish would turn up in November 418 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,320 and the last thing you got was the back end of December. 419 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,240 You look at it in 2000 and that season, now 420 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:01,680 still starting in around about November, 421 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,920 the seasons are dragging out to April, May, possibly June. 422 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:05,720 Bubble length. 423 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,320 Increasing the season 424 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,800 beautifully correlates with the increase 425 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:10,760 in water temperature. 426 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,240 These animals have got all 427 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,920 white and just north of Brisbane. 428 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,720 That's right down the east coast of Australia, 429 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,040 who has a water got warmer, 430 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,160 they've got further and further south. 431 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,720 Water temperatures, particularly in the ocean, 432 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,160 generally are rising at a much lower rate. 433 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,040 But up on the northern Australian coast 434 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,400 are rising almost as fast as their temperatures, 435 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,960 that about one degree Celsius hotter than pre-industrial 436 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,560 and that is what is leading to the massive bleaching 437 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:34,960 of the Great Barrier Reef. 438 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,400 It's leading to changes in behavior of marine organisms 439 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:39,480 like sharks. 440 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,480 It's leading to changes in the ranges of marine organisms. 441 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,880 If you continue to increase the water temperature 442 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,240 and it gets warmer and warmer as we get further south, 443 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,680 these animals will go further and further south. 444 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:50,400 Not if, 445 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,800 but when they arrive on the major beaches 446 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,480 down in Brisbane and places like that. 447 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:55,560 That's when all hell is going to 448 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,560 break loose because we have no way 449 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,800 of alleviating the problem at this moment. 450 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:01,800 Apart from going 451 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,240 the beaches closed, 452 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,160 is it possible they could get all the way to Sydney 453 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,360 if the water gets warmer? 454 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:07,520 Absolutely. 455 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:08,960 You know, our lifestyle is based 456 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,680 around the ocean and to have 457 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,240 a danger like that moving, 458 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,680 I think a lot of the southern Queenslanders 459 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,040 wouldn't be able to comprehend it. 460 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,560 We live with it here in north Queensland. 461 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:20,760 We now have two. 462 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:21,960 But yeah, 463 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,040 I think there'll be a 464 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,120 long learning curve down there 465 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:27,120 which will involve a lot of hospital visits. 466 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:29,040 We don't go out in the water without 467 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,240 some sort of protection. 468 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,040 A stinger suit most of the year 469 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,520 now, especially here along the coastline, 470 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:35,600 not only those little ones, 471 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,320 but there's some big box jellies 472 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,800 that also can do some some serious damage. 473 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,560 And as if to highlight the severity of the problem, 474 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,120 while I was in Queensland, a young boy died 475 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:47,520 while swimming in the coastal town of Mackay 476 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,360 after being brushed by a box jellyfish. 477 00:18:50,360 --> 00:18:53,280 You mentioned that we can fix this. 478 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,360 How do we fix it? 479 00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:56,080 Look, I think the answer is really simple. 480 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,720 It's one of those problems 481 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,640 that the more money you throw at it, 482 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,240 the quicker you find a solution. 483 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,080 But we're not there yet. 484 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,960 We're not even close. 485 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,560 We still don't know how the venom operates. 486 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:06,640 And we've been working on these 487 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,360 for probably 15 or 20 years and it's 488 00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:12,760 there's just so many unknowns in the whole situation. 489 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,400 So it's either going to be one of two things. 490 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:15,720 We're either gonna have to do something 491 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,960 specific to remove those animals. 492 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,080 That's not possible, 493 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:20,960 but people are have to stop using the ocean. 494 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,680 It's going to come down somewhere. 495 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,840 We know climate change is out there yet. 496 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,400 Let's not get into an argument who calls it 497 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,440 whatever it is that we know it is. 498 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,040 There somebody come up with a conclusion how we fix it? 499 00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:34,280 One person who's trying to find solutions 500 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,280 to the climate crisis here on the reef is Dean Miller, 501 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,880 who heads up the Great Barrier Reef Legacy, 502 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,520 a nonprofit organization 503 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,520 trying to preserve coral in a living biobank. 504 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,880 This is the holding facility of Cairns Marine, 505 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,160 which is an industry leader really in collecting corals 506 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,120 and fish 507 00:19:53,120 --> 00:19:54,960 and holding them 508 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,880 and distributing to the world's 509 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,520 public and private aquariums. 510 00:19:58,520 --> 00:19:59,520 Right now there'd be, 511 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,600 you know, over 10,000 coral fragments in here. 512 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,400 So we could effectively have in this space 513 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,440 the entire collection of the world's fault. 514 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:07,960 How big is the problem that we have 515 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:11,640 in my mind, potentially catastrophic, right? 516 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,440 We're losing pulse at an alarming rate 517 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,400 and we're we're losing them very, very quickly. 518 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,200 We've had three mass bleaching events 519 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,000 in six years now, and over 50% of Great 520 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,000 Barrier Reef cover has already been lost. 521 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,960 WHITE So we don't have coral reefs anymore. 522 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,800 Where are those billion people going to go? 523 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,520 What are they going to eat? 524 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:29,480 These are 525 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,320 potentially catastrophic issues 526 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,880 that we're going to have to face, right, 527 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,120 I feel in the next 20, 30, 40 years. 528 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:37,000 And so these are the biobank corals. 529 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,040 And each one of these little fragments represents a space. 530 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,680 And so they're sitting on the little acrylic plugs. 531 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,800 And within that acrylic plug is a microchip. 532 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,720 So from the moment they come out of the water, 533 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:49,960 all the data is collected on 534 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,320 everything about the race that they came from, 535 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,600 the temperature, the depth, the water chemistry. 536 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,400 They've had millions of years to adapt 537 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,400 to different temperatures around the world. 538 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,400 And we're trying to push them 539 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,000 through that evolution process in a much faster timeframe. 540 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:03,840 So they're struggling. 541 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,520 Some corals can do it, 542 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,520 but majority are showing signs of stress. 543 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,040 And we need to acknowledge that this is a global problem. 544 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,240 Now, other reef systems are completely collapsed. 545 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,280 We're in a unique position in 546 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,280 that this is an opportunity to bank 547 00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:21,720 the biodiversity of Coles 548 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,640 now, whereas in other places of the world 549 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,720 it's either happening right now or it's too late 550 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,720 Because I was speaking with Professor Roland Davis, 551 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,000 he was saying that we're losing biodiversity 552 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,120 and his ability to find different chemicals 553 00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:34,800 that can be applicable for medicines 554 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,960 that I could be using in the emergency department. 555 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,440 We're losing. Absolutely. 556 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,400 So it's really an untapped resource. 557 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:42,280 And when you think that 558 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,960 there's 800 to 1000 coral species around the world 559 00:21:46,120 --> 00:21:47,000 that we really know 560 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,000 very little about in terms of their genetic, 561 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,800 I guess, bio prospecting potential. 562 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,600 So one of the things this project does 563 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,080 is collect a living sample. 564 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,360 Then we run the genetics 565 00:21:57,360 --> 00:21:58,960 and we'll have the full genetic sequence 566 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,960 for each one of these coral fragments. 567 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,960 And someone like a pharmaceutical or medical 568 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,280 research lab will have access to that 569 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,640 full genetic information. 570 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,640 So this could be the cure to prostate cancer, 571 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:12,960 or this one could be the one 572 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,000 that fights COVID or something like that. 573 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,760 We just don't know what's out there yet. 574 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:17,520 We don't know what's out 575 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,160 and what gives you hope for the future. 576 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,920 The biggest hope is that we can do something right now 577 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:23,760 collecting the calls 578 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,760 and keeping them alive in a biobank scenario 579 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,200 allows us to at least maintain that biodiversity. 580 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:31,560 But there's lots of other stuff 581 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:32,160 we need to be doing. 582 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,880 So that's one piece of the puzzle 583 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,120 really needs to address. Climate change head on. 584 00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:37,800 And I think as a global community, 585 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,720 unless we start to make radical changes, we're 586 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,720 going to lose the race at the end of the day. 587 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,120 And I feel like people 588 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:46,960 will do the right thing at the end of day. 589 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,760 A warming planet not only threatens 590 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,760 the health of coral, it's also causing extreme 591 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,360 drought and oppressive heat the world over. 592 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:55,200 In fact, heat 593 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,120 waves kill more people across the world 594 00:22:57,120 --> 00:22:59,200 than any other weather phenomena. 595 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,600 In Australia alone, 596 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,600 an average of over 500 Australians die of heat 597 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,040 illness every year. 598 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,720 So I would say that extreme heat 599 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,040 probably is the number one factor 600 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,000 that's driving change in our climate 601 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,960 and driving health Health impacts. 602 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,640 One of the biggest and most immediate challenges 603 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,880 across the world is heat stress. 604 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,400 Basically, as the weather gets more extreme and hotter, 605 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,200 we are anticipating many more 100 plus degrees 606 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,200 in the United States, specifically in the Southeast. 607 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,720 To learn more about the problem, 608 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,600 I travel to Sydney to visit Professor 609 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,760 Ali Jae, a leading heat and health 610 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,720 expert at the University of Sydney. 611 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,080 We're facing 612 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,320 pretty dire consequences potentially in certain 613 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,680 parts of the world, particularly areas 614 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,480 of northern India, for example. 615 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,240 They already experience very high temperatures 616 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,920 alongside quite high humidities as well. 617 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,680 Here in Australia, of course, we might expect 618 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,360 temperatures to increase quite substantially as well. 619 00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:56,640 Also the humidity that's associated with that 620 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:57,320 for a long time, 621 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,680 people, we're not really taking the health impacts, 622 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,520 which with the seriousness 623 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,280 that the expert community was talking about. 624 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,000 They were talking about the fact that 625 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,200 we could get to temperatures 626 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,640 where it's impossible to live outside without an 627 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,320 air conditioner. 628 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,720 This is when, you know, things are so humid 629 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,960 and so hot that you literally can't keep yourself cool. 630 00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:19,360 And you, don. 631 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:24,760 And so we can expect that heat stress will will continue 632 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,760 to cost thousands of lives every year. 633 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,080 For some reason, people aren't embracing 634 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,840 that threat as much as they should 635 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,840 to get a taste of heat stress in a simulated environment. 636 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,040 Dr. J invited me to exercise in a heat chamber, 637 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,040 something I must say I wasn't looking forward to. 638 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,640 And if that wasn't bad enough, 639 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,520 I had to swallow a thermometer pills 640 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,960 so they could measure my core body temperature. 641 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,720 What we see at the moment is that heat waves, 642 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,120 we definitely get heat waves with 45 degrees Celsius 643 00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:55,360 or even warmer. 644 00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:56,760 But the challenge in this particular case 645 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,080 will be the higher humidity. 646 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,560 So when you're indoors, it's pretty difficult 647 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,160 to simulate an outdoor environment. 648 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,480 You can simulate the temperature and you 649 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,000 can simulate the humidity. 650 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,400 But what we can do with this facility 651 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,560 as well as up to an extent, 652 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,560 we can simulate the extra thermal radiation that comes 653 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,520 from being in an outdoor sunny environment. 654 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,520 So it's very what it's doing is is monitoring 655 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,400 what your breathing in and what you're breathing 656 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,600 every six. 657 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,920 Growing up in Hawaii, 658 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,040 I was used to working and exercising in tropical heat, 659 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,400 but nothing could have prepared me for this. 660 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,640 The future is 661 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,240 very long 662 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:41,760 from now on. 663 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,760 Screening service drifting off me. 664 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,200 I'll do that at the moment, 665 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,440 I can feel myself returning 666 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,760 from one degree Celsius. 667 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,040 Your heart rate 668 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,240 to 141. 669 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,240 The level definitely feeling ceiling increase 670 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,760 15 minutes into the exercise and I was in a pool of sweat 671 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,080 and I was so hot I felt my head was about to explode. 672 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,360 The future was definitely really hot. 673 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:17,240 I mean, I wasn't even doing much work. 674 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,520 You guys saw me like a slow jog 675 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,200 and I felt like I was sort of suffocating 676 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,200 and I'm not an unfit guy, you know, that's not possible 677 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,760 to live with in the future. 678 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,040 I mean, that was only 20 minutes or less, 679 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,080 some around 20 minutes for some reason that all day 680 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,280 I mean, you're talking about chronic dehydration or even 681 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,880 heat stroke or heat exhaustion before 3 hours are done. 682 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,600 I hope it's not what's coming because that's not bearable. 683 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:43,680 It's hard 684 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,640 to imagine how people 685 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,640 can function and work in such debilitating conditions. 686 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,640 And it just gave me a small insight 687 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,560 into what life could be like in a warmer future. 688 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,000 So once we surpassed the age of 65 or 70 years old, 689 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,320 you start getting age related reductions 690 00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,680 in the ability to sweat. 691 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,800 So the other group of people that we're also concerned 692 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,920 about are people who are physically active. 693 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,320 So if because of your job 694 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,280 or because of the sport that you participate 695 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,680 in or something like that, 696 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,600 so in that situation, 697 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,480 you be 698 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,120 more likely to experience 699 00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:16,080 something called exertional heat stroke. 700 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,760 Whereas the other situation, I would describe 701 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,560 older individuals 702 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,040 who just simply at home can't keep cool. 703 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,760 That would be something called classic heat stroke, 704 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:23,200 heat stress. 705 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,360 I can now feel it now 706 00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:25,920 personally that it's the number one 707 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,240 killer going forward when it comes to climate change. 708 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,040 More people are going to die 709 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,400 of heat, stress and everything else. 710 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,040 Every year, 711 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,280 thousands of people die as a result of heat stress. 712 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,320 This is not a unique to the developing world. 713 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,200 It's in the developed world as well. 714 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,560 At the end of the day, we've got to be making sure 715 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,560 that we turn that create those greenhouse gases off, 716 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,840 because if you don't turn them off, then all of this unique 717 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,440 and innovative science will be found. 718 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:51,120 I think 719 00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:52,200 rising temperatures 720 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,560 are not only affecting the health of humans, 721 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,120 they're also affecting shark behavior. 722 00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,640 In the last few years, the east coast of Australia 723 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,360 has experienced 724 00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:03,360 an unusually high number of fatal shark attacks. 725 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,400 To find out more about the problem, 726 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,920 I caught up with leading shark researcher Dr. 727 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,800 Daryl McPhee on North Stradbroke Island, 728 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,040 the scene of a horrific, fatal attack. 729 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,480 So Daryl, what makes this 730 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,520 area prone to shark attacks and having to have that sign 731 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,720 up there? 732 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,160 The environmental conditions here are perfect for bull 733 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,400 sharks in particular. 734 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,600 We have an extremely deep 735 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,320 channel roaring close to the beach 736 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,520 and we have all the water coming in and out of water 737 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,960 by that large, 738 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,960 large environment which sits next to Brisbane. 739 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,640 And most of the fish that come in and out, 740 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,960 lots of scalding fish like sea mullet, 741 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,400 which are really preferred food in this area 742 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,680 for bull sharks hugging the beach and the sharks 743 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,400 can fight back in 2006 in this very spot. 744 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,240 A 21 year old girl suffered a terrifying fatal attack 745 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,160 when she was mauled just meters away 746 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,280 from the beach by a number of sharks. 747 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,280 And it's an encounter that still haunts this area today. 748 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,040 What was so bad about that shark attack was 749 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,720 was that it occurred in the late afternoon, 750 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,280 quite a hot day when there was 751 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,080 a lot of families here was multiple bites 752 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,280 from multiple bull shops. 753 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,280 And it really just shattered the community. 754 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,960 And that shocked blood is still etched indelibly 755 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,200 on people's memories. 756 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,880 Daryl, there's been a recent record 757 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,960 number of fatal great white shark attacks 758 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,040 here on the East coast of Australia. 759 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,520 What's the role climate change may be having? 760 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,840 There's never one reason for a trend in unprovoked 761 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,120 shark bites, 762 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,720 but certainly on the Australian east coast, 763 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,240 with changing currents and warming water, 764 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,280 there's a correlation 765 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,520 between those factors and the occurrence of sharks 766 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,440 on beaches where people are swimming and surfing. 767 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,680 What's been unusual, particularly 768 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,760 the last couple of years, is a high number of fatalities. 769 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,560 In 2020, the east coast of Australia 770 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,760 experienced 22 unprovoked shark attacks, including 771 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,320 eight fatalities, making it the worst year on record. 772 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,240 If we're seeing an influx of sharks 773 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,680 or really high numbers, 774 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,240 lots of sightings of sharks in one area, 775 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,520 we have to kind of wonder what's bringing them in there. 776 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,720 Are they falling prey 777 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,400 or is there something in the environment 778 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,560 that's telling them this is where they should be? 779 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,680 So when we were talking about what could be changing 780 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,480 shark movement, shark behavior, 781 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,200 we have to look at those environmental cues. 782 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,360 The sharks are moving around 783 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,960 in relation to food and where their food goes, 784 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,600 where they go. 785 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,800 And so 786 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,440 what we find with climate change 787 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,400 is that their prey is being affected. 788 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,720 So therefore, ultimately sharks are being affected. 789 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,360 We know that their migratory patterns 790 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,400 are getting pushed by climate change as well. 791 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,840 Warming seas are changing 792 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,960 where and where those currents occur. 793 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,760 We all have theories as to why we see more sharks now. 794 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,280 And I've had a dozen encounters 795 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,800 in the last ten years at least. 796 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:40,640 Do you foresee 797 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,360 more attacks 798 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,400 due to the changing climate and the changing ecology 799 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,760 of the ocean? 800 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,840 Again, it's very difficult to predict, 801 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,760 but I certainly wouldn't be surprised. 802 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,040 With increasing warmer water, you actually expect to see 803 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,480 mobile sharks spending longer in the greater Sydney region 804 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,200 and even pushing further south. 805 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,600 The other climate change trigger was bull. 806 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,080 Sharks respond and move to beaches during rain, 807 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,320 particularly flooding rain. 808 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,760 So the more flooding rain you get, the more overlap 809 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,000 you expect a bull. 810 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,840 Sharks with surface, the seasons are going longer. 811 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,280 That means people will be spending more 812 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,600 and more time in the water. 813 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,560 So therefore, the chance of a negative shark, 814 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,640 human interaction also increases. 815 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,360 Australia's population is going to continue to increase. 816 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,840 A lot of people are going to go to the beaches 817 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,520 just to try and cool off. 818 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,960 More people in the water 819 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,200 equals the potential for more shark bites. 820 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,920 Incredibly, just a day prior to meeting with Dr. 821 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:34,680 McPhee, 822 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,680 my producer shocked me with the news of another fatal 823 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,760 shark attack of 824 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,920 this time in Sydney and the first in 60 years. 825 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,360 Dara, you are not going to believe this 826 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,560 fatal shark attack in Sydney who dies, 827 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,720 but they are first time in 60 years 828 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,720 mauled to death by a man eaters, 829 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,200 Great White, the three of great 830 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,240 white celebrities in a video, someone caught on film 831 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,040 got pretty full on having worked in the E.R.. 832 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,800 I've seen all sorts of trauma, 833 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,280 but nothing could have prepared me 834 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,680 for the horrific scenes 835 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,680 as a five meter great White mauled a swimmer. 836 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,160 So I've just seen a really horrific video 837 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,720 of a fatal shark attack in Sydney. 838 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,400 It's all over the newspapers as well. 839 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,280 What's your take on that absolutely horrific video? 840 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,280 It really puts things in a context 841 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,320 that was clearly a shark intent 842 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,240 on killing that particular person. 843 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,640 It was a very sustained attack. 844 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,560 And it just continued. 845 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,920 So there was obviously motivation there. 846 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:32,400 We don't 847 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,720 tend to see that predatory motivation that often from 848 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,640 great white sharks in every sense of it. 849 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,840 It was an absolutely horrific example of what can happen. 850 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,040 I guess the whole world 851 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,760 got to see the brutality of a shark attack. 852 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:44,280 That's 853 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,000 I know that 854 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,240 I don't need to see that tonight, 855 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,480 that having survived 856 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,040 a brutal attack himself while out surfing, 857 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,120 Dave Pearson understands the problem as well as anyone. 858 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,320 We got down the beach and just the beach 859 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,760 that we always surf at. 860 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:57,640 When I was paddling out 861 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,680 after the third wave, then just bang. 862 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,520 It was just 863 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,720 totally not expected to hit me like a freight train 864 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:04,480 and it's bottom 865 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,480 jaw got stuck in my surfboard on the way through. 866 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,480 All I remember was tons of bubbles 867 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,640 and then something big in front of me. 868 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,640 I was semi-conscious, like I was so dazed. 869 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,520 I was looking down on my arm and all of these muscles 870 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,040 was just hanging over and the blood was squirting 871 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,240 probably 6 to 8 foot from the city. 872 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,360 The activity back over and squeezing 873 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,760 as hard as I could to just try and stem it 874 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,640 and ASM squeezing it, squirting through my fingers. 875 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,920 And I'm thinking, well, this isn't that good at all. 876 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,360 Just as I was looking in the water, 877 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,200 I seen the shot directly under me. 878 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,520 It was still probably only 879 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,520 two foot under the water and it was like, 880 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,000 you know, five foot that way and fight for that way. 881 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,960 It was big fish. shit, I'm going to die today. 882 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,360 I was in a ton of pain, but if you're in pain, 883 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:47,880 you're alive. 884 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,480 And I was pretty happy about that. 885 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:50,040 Alarmed 886 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,440 at the rising number of attacks 887 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,760 and the lack of post-traumatic support, 888 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,000 Dave Pearson founded a support group called the Fight Club. 889 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,600 The first year out of, 890 00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,880 you know, after a year attack, 891 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,200 it's a mental mess that you don't need to get into. 892 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,160 And I searched to see if there was any support 893 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,720 network and slating 894 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,080 got in touch with a few people 895 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,960 and it was really nice to be able 896 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,720 to help people through some really tough times. 897 00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:12,760 And and they've helped me just as much. 898 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,720 Most of the climate predictions I've been hearing 899 00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:15,120 are that 900 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,520 Waters are just going to continue 901 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,840 to get warmer and warmer and warmer. 902 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,800 How problematic can this be for surfers and people 903 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,120 who are in the ocean? 904 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,680 Potentially extremely problematic. 905 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,440 We do know that 906 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,680 in amongst the information on unprovoked shark bite, 907 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,840 there is a climate change signal in that 908 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,840 there are some correlations at times 909 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,760 concentrating some white sharks 910 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,880 closer to that shoreline and overlapping 911 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,120 more with people will expect to see bites in Australia from 912 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,800 bull sharks and tiger sharks to extend further south. 913 00:34:45,240 --> 00:34:48,240 And likewise, in the US mainland, we expect to see 914 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,640 bull sharks and tiger shark bites moving further north. 915 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,720 As the water gets warmer, sharks are going to be moving. 916 00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:57,720 We're seeing that distribution is changing. 917 00:34:57,720 --> 00:34:58,800 We're seeing it in bull sharks. 918 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,720 We're seeing in tiger sharks in Australia 919 00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,440 and in other places around the world. 920 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,440 So we will have to understand 921 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,680 that these sharks are going to be popping up in places 922 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,360 that we haven't seen them before. 923 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,120 The difference from when I was younger to now, 924 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,080 it wasn't as many attacks, that's for sure. 925 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,400 But now 926 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,320 there's a lot more awareness about what's out there. 927 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,440 And we should be shark smart, 928 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,320 We should be smarter about what we do 929 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,200 and not put ourselves in a situation 930 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,280 could lead to us being attacked too 931 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,440 as humans to change their behavior is a big ask. 932 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,840 But I think that what people just need to to do 933 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,840 is to be aware, to educate themselves, to know the risk 934 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,960 and to do whatever they can to mitigate against that risk. 935 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,520 We want to alter an entire ecosystem 936 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,520 by calling sharks, removing sharks. 937 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,160 So then we have a safer environment for recreation. 938 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,240 It's kind of a bit the height of human arrogance, 939 00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:53,440 I think, for us to 940 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,040 think that, let's change a whole ecosystem 941 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,280 for our pleasure. 942 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,800 So for that extra peace of mind 943 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,840 and in fact extra risk reduction, 944 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,920 there are scientifically tested 945 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,880 shark deterrents that do actually work, 946 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,400 but none of them are 100% effective. 947 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,240 The risk of a shark bite is low. 948 00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:12,240 It will remain low, but it will never be zero. 949 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,400 So now hitting south down to Canberra 950 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,960 to see Professor Will Steffen. 951 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,360 He's an expert in climate science. 952 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,360 It's amazing that just two years ago 953 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,400 Australia had its worst bushfire season on record. 954 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,640 Now we're driving through 955 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,560 what allegedly is a one in 1000 year flood. 956 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,920 Evacuation warnings have also been issued for 957 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,320 the environment 958 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:33,600 and a 959 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,520 danger if you are trying around 960 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,800 anywhere in the whole of an area. 961 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,800 This really is a land of climate extremes. 962 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,680 So climate change is basically a disruption 963 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,840 of the energy balance at the surface of the earth. 964 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,560 We are changing the energy balance 965 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,080 of the lower atmosphere 966 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,600 and of course it changes circulation, changes 967 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,120 how rainfall and where rainfall falls, it changes 968 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,960 extreme weather events and all sorts of things like that. 969 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,880 What are the general climate trends 970 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,440 that are happening here in Australia? 971 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:02,800 Well, probably the first and foremost 972 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,160 one is it's getting hot, really hot. 973 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,720 So extreme heat is going up. 974 00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:07,840 That's still the number one 975 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,840 killer of climate related extreme. 976 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,680 And it's affecting all of our capital cities. 977 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,240 It's affecting the bush, affecting everything. 978 00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:19,240 So it's this combination of our coasts are changing. 979 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,320 We're heating wood burning more. 980 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,880 When droughts come, they are much more severe. 981 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,440 They tend to be longer and they tend to be drier. 982 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,160 It's spreading around the rest of the world, too. 983 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,960 But I think there's nowhere like Australia 984 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,840 where climate change now is so pervasive 985 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,840 in so many different ways and to such extreme, 986 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,840 all the natural variability we have is getting worse. 987 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,320 When storms come, the packing more power, 988 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,800 when rain comes, it rains more, 989 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,520 more runoff, higher flooding, sea levels are coming 990 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,680 up, storm surges are coming in. 991 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,960 The other thing I think that makes Australia 992 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,160 so unique is we've put a lot of our people 993 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,400 and infrastructure in vulnerable places. 994 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,200 We love our coastlines. 995 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,400 So all of Australia's major cities 996 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,520 except the one we're in now, Canberra, 997 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,800 all the others are located on the coast. 998 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,240 People love to go down to the beach, 999 00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:09,360 up to the houses on the coast, but sea level is coming up. 1000 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,360 Storm surges are becoming stronger. 1001 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,360 So we have a lot of infrastructure, 1002 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,000 a lot of people at risk from rising sea levels. 1003 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,200 So it's a combination of a very erratic climate 1004 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,440 and just sort of by the way we live, 1005 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,760 we've tended to put ourselves in harm's way 1006 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,800 as the water continues to warm. 1007 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,600 Professor Steffen also has real concerns for the 1008 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,240 health of the Great Barrier Reef. 1009 00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:32,040 Coral reefs are really, really 1010 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,640 in a very vulnerable position now, and I think my prognosis 1011 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,640 is that not many of them are going to survive. 1012 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,040 Remember also that the oceans absorb 90% of the extra heat 1013 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,040 that we're generating with greenhouse gases. 1014 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,920 Big ocean currents are going to start to change, 1015 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,760 speeding up, slowing or whatever. 1016 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,760 That's going to wreak havoc with climate around the world. 1017 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,640 A lot of other continents, they haven't experienced it 1018 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,280 like we're experiencing it, but it's going to come. 1019 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,720 Are we in a climate emergency? 1020 00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:00,840 Absolutely. We're in a climate emergency. 1021 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,360 Temperatures are accelerating. 1022 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,200 Our emissions are increasing. 1023 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,120 So not only do we have to reduce them, 1024 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:07,560 we've got to learn 1025 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,960 how slow them down really fast, 1026 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,920 pick them and get them going now. 1027 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,920 People don't appreciate their health until it's gone. 1028 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,800 How do you personally feel about the inaction 1029 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,440 that may be happening for many people? 1030 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,960 Climate change was theoretical. 1031 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,240 It was a science problem. Something for the future. 1032 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:25,840 Exactly. 1033 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:26,960 As you say, 1034 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,800 it's only after you lose something 1035 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,520 that you realize how much you valued it, 1036 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,200 like your health, obviously. 1037 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,160 And then when I tell them 1038 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,160 that these major events don't just change 1039 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,480 linearly as an even group, they go up sharply. 1040 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,480 And so 1.5, it's going to be much more than 50% 1041 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,840 worse than one 1042 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,040 and two degrees is going to be far worse 1043 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,040 than double what's happening at one. 1044 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,240 And then I reminded 1045 00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:51,720 just remember the last couple of years 1046 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:54,000 what was happening at one degree. 1047 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,360 We still have a fighting chance, 1048 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,320 but we've got to move fast. 1049 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,000 Despite all the negativity, 1050 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,200 Professor Stephan hasn't given up all hope 1051 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,720 just yet and is encouraged 1052 00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:05,000 by the attitude of the world's youth. 1053 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,120 We see all sorts of what I call 1054 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,240 trusted voices now standing up. 1055 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:12,080 It's hard for people to forget about what 1056 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,600 the young people are saying, saying It's our future. 1057 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,080 You older people are in charge of making sure 1058 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,360 we have a future and you're failing us. 1059 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,760 That's a strong message. 1060 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,240 But medical people are speaking out like yourself. 1061 00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:25,800 Firies are speaking out. 1062 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,360 Farmers speaking out. 1063 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,040 Sportspeople are speaking out. 1064 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,800 So this idea that we need to move and we need to move past 1065 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,720 is permeating many aspects of our society. 1066 00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:38,040 And it's not unique to Australia. 1067 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,040 It's happening in other parts of the world too. 1068 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,800 Can we get to the social tipping point in time? 1069 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,280 I don't have the answer, but every day 1070 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,200 when I see someone else speaking out, 1071 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,880 it gives me some hope that we might get there. 1072 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,320 Greg Mullins 1073 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,320 The son of a fireman and a fireman himself 1074 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,360 with over 50 years of experience 1075 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,400 fighting fires on the front line, 1076 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,080 was so alarmed by climate change 1077 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,920 and its effects on bushfire, 1078 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,640 he felt compelled to write a book called Firestorm. 1079 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,160 When I first became a firefighter, 1080 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,920 nobody was talking about climate change. 1081 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,280 It wasn't even on the radar. 1082 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,520 And my father taught me about the fire seasons 1083 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:15,800 and patterns of weather. 1084 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,760 What I'm seeing across the world is 1085 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,040 climate change is driving up 1086 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,120 temperatures, it's drying out forests, even wet 1087 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,000 rainforests never used to burn 1088 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,880 for millions of years, couldn't burn. 1089 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:27,840 Now they're burning. 1090 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,600 So this problem is getting bigger and bigger and bigger. 1091 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,840 Wildfires get turned on by particular 1092 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,160 types of conditions. 1093 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,840 It's the increase in those conditions, 1094 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,040 the dryness, the amount of tinder, 1095 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,280 the temperature 1096 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,240 that are driving this sort of cycle of fires. 1097 00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:45,600 In the summer of 2019 2020, climate change 1098 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,240 came to a head in Australia 1099 00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:47,880 when the east 1100 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,880 coast of the country literally went up in flames. 1101 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,160 It was a fire so intense, so catastrophic 1102 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,240 and so widespread it would change 1103 00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:59,160 Australia's view on climate change forever. 1104 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,960 It was a fire so devastating 1105 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,960 it would make the whole world stand up and take notice. 1106 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,640 Stretching right along the east coast 1107 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,280 of Australia and burning for over 1108 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,000 six months, the fire would become known as Black Summer. 1109 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,240 If you look up the Australian east coast from Victoria 1110 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:16,400 up through to southern and central Queensland, 1111 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,160 on average about two or 3% of those forests 1112 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,040 burn every year. That is a normal bushfire. 1113 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,880 Some were equipped to handle it. 1114 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,440 Firefighters couldn't go out and deal 1115 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,560 with a wildlife can deal with it. 1116 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,360 That's the way ecology works. 1117 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,360 While 2019 and 2020 came along, we jumped 1118 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:38,080 from two or three or 4% to 21% burnt in one year. 1119 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,520 We had our hottest, driest year ever 1120 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:41,720 recorded in Australia, 1121 00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:44,840 so it was far more severe than any previous drought. 1122 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,440 So they're saying it was the worst drought on record. 1123 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,160 The forest became critically dry 1124 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,440 and the temperatures became 1125 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,560 critically hot at the same time. 1126 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,360 So it crossed the threshold in which 1127 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,120 the fires were uncontrollable. 1128 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,760 There was so much fire activity 1129 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,040 going on over such a large area 1130 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,080 from the top of the state 1131 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,160 all the way down into Victoria 1132 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,280 over such an extended period of time. 1133 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,800 It was months and months, 1134 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,640 consistent devastation, consistent destruction 1135 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,880 on a scale that we hadn't seen ever before. 1136 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,360 Not just the sheer scale of them, 1137 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,800 but the length of time they went for rather 1138 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,000 fighting fires. Over two or three months. 1139 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,600 We were fighting fires 1140 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,400 in some areas from August right through to the end 1141 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,640 of February and the march. 1142 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:25,240 I saw 1143 00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:29,400 kangaroos on dying on fire, coming out of blazing forests 1144 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,640 and they know how to get away. 1145 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,400 They know where the water is 1146 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,880 and they fast that the fires at random. 1147 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,240 What I heard was so loud that I turned around 1148 00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:40,680 and was confronted with a world flame 1149 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,920 unlike I'd ever seen this enormous explosion of power. 1150 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,840 And it was it was deafening. 1151 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,840 People were trapped and had to make for the sea. 1152 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,400 We're standing on the beaches. 1153 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,120 As fires were bearing down, the Navy had to come in, 1154 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:53,880 bring them out. 1155 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,200 We had a pyro convective storm above us, which used to be 1156 00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,280 something of legend. 1157 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,200 You know, all my time 1158 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,120 fighting fires. I've never seen that now 1159 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,960 so common during that fire season. 1160 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,840 There was one instance during the fires 1161 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,280 where an eight tonne fire truck was picked up 1162 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,920 and dumped on its race and killed one firefighter. 1163 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:11,520 I can show you 1164 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,480 an image of flames that are 50, 60 meters high. 1165 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,880 Within sight of Canberra, 1166 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,000 we were within hours of having 40 and 50,000 1167 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,080 people trapped. 1168 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:21,440 I don't know 1169 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,280 how many people realized the situation, 1170 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,200 but I was really sweating that night. 1171 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,240 In the time I've been in the fire service, 1172 00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:29,200 I've seen some really significant fires, 1173 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,520 never to the scale of the amount of fires 1174 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,920 and five and a half million hectares that were burnt here 1175 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,840 in New South Wales by far and away exceeds 1176 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,520 what we've ever dealt with before. 1177 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,800 No firefighting organization on this planet 1178 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,320 could have dealt with those fires. 1179 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,320 We're now talking about mega-fires, 1180 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,320 things that are going for for longer, hotter, 1181 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,840 more intense, more threatening and so on. 1182 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,800 We're seeing these things start to amplify. 1183 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,200 We lost 2470 times, 11 times 1184 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,680 more than any previous fires in history in this state. 1185 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:00,560 Fires are now 1186 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,560 appearing in ecosystems and regions of Australia 1187 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:04,920 that they hadn't before. 1188 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,440 So in addition to the intensity of huge fires 1189 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,200 in the eucalypts, other force 1190 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,960 which didn't burn are starting to burn. 1191 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,800 Why? Because they're having extended dry periods 1192 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:14,760 and then heat. 1193 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,400 There's big parts of this state where there's nothing 1194 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,120 there you go there, there's not even birds. 1195 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,720 It's sterilized because it's the hundreds of kilometers. 1196 00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:24,720 It's just blackened and everything died. 1197 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,040 So our scientists are saying there's 1198 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,080 never been anything like this or as widespread 1199 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:29,880 as this or as intense disease. 1200 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,960 And so a firefighter who's been on the front lines 1201 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,640 for 15 years, I've never seen anything like it. 1202 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:36,200 There's now 1203 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,800 very strong evidence that they wouldn't 1204 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,960 have occurred without climate change. 1205 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,200 Well, as you know, as I mentioned, 1206 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,120 we're a fire prone continent anyway. 1207 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,240 But normally that would be 1208 00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:46,360 maybe three or 4% of the force burned. 1209 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,520 And you went back 1210 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,560 three decades and you saw this oscillation 1211 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,360 and then you saw over the last decade, 1212 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,600 it kept creeping up, up and up. 1213 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:54,360 And up. 1214 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,040 And by the time 2019 came by, 1215 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,760 it was probably at the 99th percentile. 1216 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,040 In other words, above anything else 1217 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,960 in terms of the combination of drought and heat. 1218 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,320 It's easy to say, well, we've had fires before. 1219 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,480 I definitely consider the fact that major fire events 1220 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,480 are inevitable, but the climate change 1221 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,000 is making it so much worse. 1222 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,840 We haven't seen it on this scale before 1223 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,920 and this is why we should be paying more attention to it. 1224 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,320 Climate change 1225 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,880 just shoved the temperature that much too high. 1226 00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:23,680 The drought 1227 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,080 was that much to try and the whole thing took off. 1228 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,760 Bushfires not only threaten ecosystems 1229 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,360 and whole communities, 1230 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,360 they also have a devastating effect on human health. 1231 00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:36,520 During our fires, 33 1232 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,160 people were killed, including nine spots on us. 1233 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,800 I was actually standing 1234 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,560 because I thought there'd be thousand, but 1235 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,280 450 people died from the effects of smoke. 1236 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,000 So major capital cities of Sydney, Melbourne and Canberra 1237 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,720 were just covered in smiles. 1238 00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:54,480 I understand there was some studies done 1239 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:55,440 that showed 1240 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,360 once that got it up into the upper atmosphere, 1241 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,520 that smoke was actually circling the planet. 1242 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,920 We saw heavy, heavy effects of smoke impact on human health 1243 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,120 for months on end. 1244 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,120 So it was very much 1245 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:06,960 not only that 1246 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,080 immediate effect of how far the smoke would go, 1247 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,040 but the cumulative effect as well. 1248 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,680 One night I was delivering a baby 1249 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,000 when little spotlight 1250 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,200 and it was just running through smoke, 1251 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:22,120 and we realized that the whole birth room was full of thick 1252 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:24,000 smoke. 1253 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,880 As people start to inhale more smoke. 1254 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,200 And we saw massive increases in hospitalizations 1255 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,200 during the bushfires 1256 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,920 in Sydney delivered babies who ended up in the need 1257 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,080 of UCERIS at rates that I had not experienced before. 1258 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,600 Our health is being impacted across the globe yet 1259 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,840 there doesn't seem to be the action that's needed yet. 1260 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,040 It's impossible for the world to function in people 1261 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:51,240 that it isn't a theoretical future 1262 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,800 threat to people that people are living in now. 1263 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,080 We are seeing heatwaves, 1264 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,560 we see bushfire smoke affecting people 1265 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,800 and people are very anxious about their children's health. 1266 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:02,880 So it's really 1267 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,880 been an extraordinary changing philosophy. 1268 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,120 Was Black Summer a warning for the rest of the world 1269 00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:10,560 caught? Most definitely. 1270 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:11,880 And soon after that 1271 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,960 California burned yet again and tied together. 1272 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,080 So there were big warnings and no human being 1273 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,720 has fought fires in those conditions before. 1274 00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:23,640 We're heading for 2.7 degrees, 1275 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,720 which is catastrophic for the human race. 1276 00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:27,000 Indigenous Australians 1277 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,240 have been successfully managing the environment 1278 00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:30,440 with controlled burns 1279 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,640 for thousands of years and it's a practice 1280 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,040 that the Western world can learn from. 1281 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,440 Europeans have been here for about 200 years 1282 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,320 and for 60,000 years before that. 1283 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:40,520 The Indigenous people 1284 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,000 managed the land and healed 1285 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,720 the land and we've screwed it up in just 200 years. 1286 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:49,320 So what can 1287 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,440 the indigenous of this land teach us about fires? 1288 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:53,280 Well, 1289 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,200 I believe there's a lot of buildup of fuel 1290 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,120 and that's creating a lot of fires. 1291 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,600 Once that fire goes, it's pretty hard to sort out 1292 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:00,960 if you've got a lot of fuel around. 1293 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,720 The cultural burning really does have a place. 1294 00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:05,080 The more we can 1295 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,480 look at how it integrates 1296 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,720 into our fire management practices. 1297 00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:11,880 Now I think the law wind from the bushfires 1298 00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:15,240 can be reduced If we do a lot of traditional banning. 1299 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,800 We just don't go walking in and burning 1300 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,600 the whole we burn certain areas, section 1301 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,840 by section so we don't create a big mega bushfire. 1302 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,480 Cultural burning has much deeper meaning 1303 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,320 than a just been as simple as saying 1304 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,200 it's a good way to do hazard reduction. 1305 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,880 Why is it required? 1306 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,600 What is the connection to country? 1307 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,560 Climate change is having such an impact 1308 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,960 on the severity of fires in Australia. 1309 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,720 It's forced the authorities to extend the fire danger 1310 00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:45,600 rating from extreme to catastrophic. 1311 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,080 It's an algorithm that takes maximum 1312 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:49,840 temperature, 1313 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,840 lowest relative humidity, the moisture in the air, 1314 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:53,760 highest wind 1315 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,760 speed and a drought factor number of days since rain 1316 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,160 jumps it all up and comes up with a number 1317 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,400 between one and 100. 1318 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,120 The Fire Authorities council decided together 1319 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,200 with the federal government, we need a new category. 1320 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,200 Once it gets to catastrophic leave the day before. 1321 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,160 I think more than any single incident, 1322 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,680 that is the one that's got people realizing 1323 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,480 that climate change is not only real, 1324 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:18,960 it's not something for the future. 1325 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,680 We continue to learn more 1326 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,160 and hopefully we can implement those learnings 1327 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,720 to better mitigate the risks 1328 00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:27,400 so we now know what the New West is 1329 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,280 and we need to be getting ready to deal with that. 1330 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:30,880 Or worse. 1331 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,960 The thing that gives me hope for the future is 1332 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,240 children are utterly focused 1333 00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:45,240 on the health of the planet in a way that never happened 1334 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,160 when I was a kid. 1335 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,920 They want ethical 1336 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,280 and responsible environmental stewardship. 1337 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,040 I see that fundamental to the way the watch work. 1338 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,920 Watching my kids fire up about climate change 1339 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,200 is really exciting. 1340 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,600 This generation cares a lot about the climate. 1341 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,720 It is quite an exciting time, 1342 00:51:03,720 --> 00:51:05,240 especially for kids coming through now 1343 00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:08,000 because the answers will be science and technology. 1344 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,080 Everything's been looked at. 1345 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,440 Nothing's off the table for climate change. 1346 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,200 It's not something for the future. 1347 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,360 This continent is probably the most vulnerable, 1348 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,440 and we're feeling that right now. 1349 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,440 There is a huge capacity for us to solve problems. 1350 00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:24,480 If we consider them to be problems we're solving. 1351 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,000 We need to make sure that people realize that 1352 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,160 this is a problem worth solving 1353 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,160 because it's the planet 1354 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,200 upon which we live on and there is no other planet. 1355 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,280 But we have a moral responsibility 1356 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,240 to take care of those most vulnerable 1357 00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:40,840 and to hand our kids a future that we want to be proud of. 1358 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,080 Treat it as an emergency and go on a wartime footing 1359 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:46,800 to turn this around. 1360 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,200 Anyone who is involved in delivering babies 1361 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,840 and delivering a new generation 1362 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,120 has an interest in making sure the babies 1363 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,440 we deliver their children have the healthiest possible 1364 00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:58,720 starting lives. 1365 00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:01,200 We must get on with the solutions 1366 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,480 if only for the kids. 1367 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,360 I mean, you think about children 1368 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:06,560 and what we're leaving them. 1369 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,720 That's the great moral argument. 1370 00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:11,600 Do you think as physicians, we should be leading 1371 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,040 the charge in the climate emergency? 1372 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,440 It is our absolute responsibility 1373 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,800 to make sure that we are in the lead. 1374 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,800 Both advocacy and in how we live our own lives 1375 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,160 and how we treat patients. 1376 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:26,680 We need people power. 1377 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,680 Humans need to take responsibility, 1378 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,160 and it'll come back in terms of the health benefits for us 1379 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:32,800 because it's not all over. 1380 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:33,960 But it is one of those grand 1381 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:38,040 challenges that we must meet and we are staying away from. 1382 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,280 The solutions is not an option. 1383 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,280 I've learned a lot about climate change 1384 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:45,720 in my time Down Under 1385 00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:46,920 and how it's affecting health 1386 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,560 in ways I never thought possible. 1387 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,600 I've also seen that now more than ever, 1388 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,720 I'm hopeful we will act because when it's our health, 1389 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:56,560 we can't afford to wait. 108273

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