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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,170 --> 00:00:15,368 Tonight's space shuttle Challenger on launch pad 39B, 2 00:00:15,451 --> 00:00:17,292 as the mammoth spacecraft... 3 00:00:18,865 --> 00:00:20,783 The countdown continues for tomorrow's launch 4 00:00:20,848 --> 00:00:23,367 of the Space Shuttle Challenger, with its crew of seven 5 00:00:23,368 --> 00:00:26,049 including New Hampshire schoolteacher Christa McAuliffe. 6 00:00:26,050 --> 00:00:28,047 But a cloudy and... 7 00:00:28,048 --> 00:00:30,126 As NASA ground crews prepare the ship... 8 00:00:30,127 --> 00:00:32,409 ...officials believe it will be a go... 9 00:00:37,529 --> 00:00:39,889 The Challenger mission L51 has been... 10 00:00:39,890 --> 00:00:43,448 The 51L mission, ready to go. 11 00:00:43,449 --> 00:00:45,807 At seven o'clock, the Challenger crew met 12 00:00:45,808 --> 00:00:48,009 for their traditional pre-flight breakfast... 13 00:01:02,568 --> 00:01:07,527 Ladies and gentlemen of the faculty, students, quiet, please. 14 00:01:07,528 --> 00:01:11,807 Please welcome our esteemed guest lecturer, 15 00:01:11,808 --> 00:01:14,368 winner of the Einstein Award, 16 00:01:14,369 --> 00:01:18,208 one of the ten most significant physicists of all time, 17 00:01:18,209 --> 00:01:23,883 winner of the Nobel Prize in Physics, Dr Richard Feynman. 18 00:01:39,768 --> 00:01:41,926 I bribed him to say all that nice stuff, 19 00:01:41,927 --> 00:01:43,528 clearly I just escaped from jail. 20 00:01:47,608 --> 00:01:51,047 Energy, from potential to kinetic, 21 00:01:51,048 --> 00:01:52,489 gives you... 22 00:01:53,489 --> 00:01:55,127 You see that? 23 00:01:55,128 --> 00:01:57,288 No, don't write it down. 24 00:02:02,168 --> 00:02:03,968 Not till you know what it means. 25 00:02:13,208 --> 00:02:15,727 This will not hurt you. 26 00:02:15,728 --> 00:02:17,128 It might hurt me. 27 00:02:33,488 --> 00:02:35,928 Why didn't I have you write down the equation? 28 00:02:38,688 --> 00:02:39,846 You'd write it out. 29 00:02:39,847 --> 00:02:42,128 La-di-la-di-la, you'd feel pretty smart, right? 30 00:02:43,848 --> 00:02:45,368 But now you understand it. 31 00:02:46,448 --> 00:02:48,567 Mom! Hurry Up! I'm coming. 32 00:02:48,568 --> 00:02:51,206 ...about three minutes, and they think they can do it. 33 00:02:51,207 --> 00:02:53,565 They are counting, the ice is cleared away, 34 00:02:53,566 --> 00:02:56,325 and Challenger should be going away very soon. 35 00:02:56,326 --> 00:02:58,125 Let's go down to the Kennedy Space Center 36 00:02:58,126 --> 00:03:00,205 and take a look at Challenger sitting on the pad 37 00:03:00,206 --> 00:03:02,325 as they continue the countdown. 38 00:03:02,326 --> 00:03:05,205 Challenger's launch will be the 25th space shuttle mission. 39 00:03:05,206 --> 00:03:08,325 It's estimated over 30,000 people have been involved... 40 00:03:08,326 --> 00:03:10,525 Dale, you want some coffee? Not now, Larry. 41 00:03:10,526 --> 00:03:13,088 ...at a total cost of nearly 40 million... 42 00:03:17,888 --> 00:03:20,806 There goes Christa McAuliffe, first teacher in space. 43 00:03:20,807 --> 00:03:24,325 During the mission, McAuliffe will be conducting scientific experiments 44 00:03:24,326 --> 00:03:26,005 which will be beamed live to children 45 00:03:26,006 --> 00:03:27,685 in schoolrooms across America. 46 00:03:27,686 --> 00:03:30,165 The New Hampshire teacher has described Challenger 47 00:03:30,166 --> 00:03:31,847 as the ultimate field trip. 48 00:03:31,848 --> 00:03:33,206 What is science? 49 00:03:33,207 --> 00:03:37,083 Science is a way to teach how... 50 00:03:37,494 --> 00:03:40,744 some thing gets to be known. 51 00:03:44,287 --> 00:03:47,726 In as much as anything can be known. 52 00:03:47,727 --> 00:03:50,047 Because nothing is known absolutely. 53 00:03:51,606 --> 00:03:54,446 It's how to handle doubt 54 00:03:54,447 --> 00:03:55,727 and uncertainty. 55 00:03:57,647 --> 00:04:02,126 Ten, nine, eight, seven, six... 56 00:04:02,127 --> 00:04:03,687 we have main engine start. 57 00:04:03,688 --> 00:04:07,686 Four, three, two, one... 58 00:04:07,687 --> 00:04:11,686 Lift-off of the 25th space shuttle mission, 59 00:04:11,687 --> 00:04:14,006 and it has cleared the tower. 60 00:04:14,007 --> 00:04:15,207 Yay! 61 00:04:24,966 --> 00:04:27,445 Roger roll, Challenger. 62 00:04:27,446 --> 00:04:30,205 Challenger, go with throttle. 63 00:04:30,206 --> 00:04:34,127 Science teaches us what the rules of evidence are. 64 00:04:36,247 --> 00:04:38,647 We mess with that at our peril. 65 00:04:43,327 --> 00:04:45,247 One minute, 15 seconds. 66 00:04:50,806 --> 00:04:54,206 We'll report more as we have information available. 67 00:04:57,886 --> 00:04:59,966 Checking with the recovery forces. 68 00:05:03,846 --> 00:05:06,046 Obviously a major malfunction. 69 00:05:08,726 --> 00:05:09,966 We have no downlink. 70 00:05:27,606 --> 00:05:30,804 The space agency NASA has not yet confirmed the deaths 71 00:05:30,805 --> 00:05:33,004 of the schoolteacher and six other astronauts 72 00:05:33,005 --> 00:05:35,804 who were on board the shuttle Challenger when it exploded 73 00:05:35,805 --> 00:05:37,524 on take-off this morning in Florida. 74 00:05:37,525 --> 00:05:40,964 But there seems little doubt that there were any survivors. 75 00:05:40,965 --> 00:05:44,484 NASA is conducting a news conference at this moment. 76 00:05:44,485 --> 00:05:46,644 Challenger exploded into a fireball 77 00:05:46,645 --> 00:05:49,365 and pieces came down in the Atlantic Ocean... 78 00:05:49,366 --> 00:05:53,925 Never in 25 launches of the space shuttle had a life been lost. 79 00:05:53,926 --> 00:05:56,564 Today, that record went down in flames. 80 00:05:56,565 --> 00:05:59,644 Tonight the search for survivors turned up none. 81 00:05:59,645 --> 00:06:02,284 The search for answers is just starting. 82 00:06:02,285 --> 00:06:04,124 Bruce Hall begins our coverage 83 00:06:04,125 --> 00:06:07,806 of a spaceship that became a fireball and a national tragedy. 84 00:06:07,807 --> 00:06:09,125 Ready for launch. 85 00:06:09,126 --> 00:06:10,965 And lift-off. 86 00:06:10,966 --> 00:06:13,604 And listen to the cheers of the young students 87 00:06:13,605 --> 00:06:15,806 of the first ever US teacher-astronaut. 88 00:06:15,807 --> 00:06:18,684 Moments later, a massive explosion. 89 00:06:18,685 --> 00:06:21,164 The cheering stops. 90 00:06:21,165 --> 00:06:23,245 I'm sorry, I can't watch this stuff. 91 00:06:27,965 --> 00:06:30,363 Seven Americans with the highest hopes. 92 00:06:30,364 --> 00:06:33,406 A billion dollars worth of the highest technology. 93 00:06:33,407 --> 00:06:36,125 Gone in seconds. 94 00:06:36,126 --> 00:06:38,966 The worst disaster in the US Space Program ever. 95 00:06:51,165 --> 00:06:53,524 Hello. Er, hold on, hold on. No... 96 00:06:53,525 --> 00:06:54,965 Wait! 97 00:06:59,605 --> 00:07:01,965 Feynman menagerie. 98 00:07:03,965 --> 00:07:05,845 Sorry, who is it? Hold on, hold on. 99 00:07:09,445 --> 00:07:10,565 Who's this? 100 00:07:11,685 --> 00:07:12,966 Bill. Bill who? 101 00:07:14,325 --> 00:07:15,605 Bill Graham? 102 00:07:17,005 --> 00:07:19,844 I've got 15,000 former students. 103 00:07:19,845 --> 00:07:22,285 Listen, pal, how did you get a hold of my home number? 104 00:07:24,765 --> 00:07:26,205 You're head of what? 105 00:07:28,525 --> 00:07:29,765 NASA? 106 00:07:49,724 --> 00:07:51,803 You got your results back yet? 107 00:07:51,804 --> 00:07:53,165 Nope. 108 00:07:58,005 --> 00:07:59,283 What's bugging you? 109 00:07:59,284 --> 00:08:01,165 Had a phone call this morning. 110 00:08:04,205 --> 00:08:05,885 They want me to go to Washington 111 00:08:05,886 --> 00:08:10,284 and sit on a presidential inquiry thing. 112 00:08:10,285 --> 00:08:12,124 What? 113 00:08:12,125 --> 00:08:14,683 Find out why the shuttle exploded. 114 00:08:14,684 --> 00:08:16,003 Did you say yes? 115 00:08:16,004 --> 00:08:18,444 I'm not even that into the space programme. 116 00:08:19,644 --> 00:08:22,764 I know people died and I'm very sorry about that, but... 117 00:08:23,844 --> 00:08:25,283 Gwen... 118 00:08:25,284 --> 00:08:29,603 I do my work, my teaching, you guys. 119 00:08:29,604 --> 00:08:35,084 They just want to say that they bagged the famous physicist guy. 120 00:08:35,085 --> 00:08:37,685 They're a bunch of bureaucrats and generals 121 00:08:37,686 --> 00:08:40,325 with pokers up their asses, you know? 122 00:08:43,404 --> 00:08:44,483 What? 123 00:08:44,484 --> 00:08:46,763 You just said it. 124 00:08:46,764 --> 00:08:49,322 They wouldn't know where to look. You would. 125 00:08:49,323 --> 00:08:52,604 You can't pass up a puzzle, not as important as this. 126 00:08:59,484 --> 00:09:01,484 I'm sorry, love, you're right. 127 00:09:01,485 --> 00:09:03,164 I wasn't thinking. 128 00:09:04,484 --> 00:09:07,324 Write and explain that you're not fit enough. 129 00:09:07,325 --> 00:09:09,203 I'm fit. I'm fit. 130 00:09:09,204 --> 00:09:11,523 Who are you kidding? I'm fit as a fiddle. 131 00:09:11,524 --> 00:09:15,683 What do you Yorkshire folks say? "I'm fit as a flea. " 132 00:09:15,684 --> 00:09:17,083 You want the proof? 133 00:09:17,084 --> 00:09:18,243 Not especially. 134 00:09:18,244 --> 00:09:20,044 Ohh... you smell so good. 135 00:09:21,844 --> 00:09:23,044 OK, but... 136 00:09:24,284 --> 00:09:25,804 Then you'd have no excuse. 137 00:09:29,324 --> 00:09:30,644 Damn you, woman. 138 00:09:35,844 --> 00:09:37,884 I'll have to wear a tie. 139 00:09:41,883 --> 00:09:44,841 The Captain has turned on the no smoking signs. 140 00:09:44,842 --> 00:09:48,123 At this time, please extinguish all smoking materials. 141 00:09:57,804 --> 00:09:59,084 Taxi! 142 00:10:07,604 --> 00:10:08,644 It's cold. 143 00:10:09,683 --> 00:10:11,202 NASA headquarters. 144 00:10:11,203 --> 00:10:13,482 NASA, you got it. 145 00:10:13,483 --> 00:10:14,523 Cold! 146 00:10:18,443 --> 00:10:20,001 With America still in shock 147 00:10:20,002 --> 00:10:21,961 after the world's worst space disaster, 148 00:10:21,962 --> 00:10:23,961 the address given by President Reagan 149 00:10:23,962 --> 00:10:25,721 in the hours following the accident 150 00:10:25,722 --> 00:10:27,843 now seems to have captured the mood of a nation. 151 00:10:27,844 --> 00:10:29,842 We mourn seven heroes. 152 00:10:29,843 --> 00:10:31,801 We mourn their loss as a nation together... 153 00:10:31,802 --> 00:10:34,362 So, sir, are you something to do with the enquiry there? 154 00:10:34,363 --> 00:10:36,804 Yeah, I'm on the presidential commission. 155 00:10:36,805 --> 00:10:37,843 Ah. 156 00:10:37,844 --> 00:10:40,123 Alongside some super-important people. 157 00:10:40,124 --> 00:10:45,242 ...slipped the surly bonds of Earth to touch the face of God. 158 00:10:45,243 --> 00:10:47,761 Focus now turns to the cause of the tragedy, 159 00:10:47,762 --> 00:10:49,603 as the Presidential Commission... 160 00:10:49,604 --> 00:10:51,842 They gotta get back up there. 161 00:10:51,843 --> 00:10:53,563 Something went really wrong. 162 00:11:10,722 --> 00:11:12,682 Keep that. Thank you. 163 00:11:12,683 --> 00:11:14,322 Sir... 164 00:11:14,323 --> 00:11:16,962 Can I trouble you for an autograph? 165 00:11:16,963 --> 00:11:18,962 Sure. 166 00:11:18,963 --> 00:11:21,082 Who would I make it out to? 167 00:11:21,083 --> 00:11:22,802 Oh... 168 00:11:22,803 --> 00:11:25,441 Not you, sir. I meant Mr Neil Armstrong. 169 00:11:25,442 --> 00:11:26,683 First man on the moon. 170 00:11:26,684 --> 00:11:28,682 You could mail it. 171 00:11:28,683 --> 00:11:30,883 That's my driver number, at that address. 172 00:11:30,884 --> 00:11:32,802 OK. 173 00:11:32,803 --> 00:11:34,762 I promise. Thank you. 174 00:11:34,763 --> 00:11:36,123 Thank you. 175 00:11:37,522 --> 00:11:39,520 So what do you expect to find? 176 00:11:39,521 --> 00:11:41,722 Mr Feynman, what do you expect to find? 177 00:11:46,522 --> 00:11:47,961 Pardon me. 178 00:11:47,962 --> 00:11:50,320 Mr Armstrong, I think we met... Excuse me. 179 00:11:50,321 --> 00:11:53,563 I'm Bill Rogers. I'm chairman of the Commission. 180 00:11:53,564 --> 00:11:56,482 We're very fortunate to have you with us. 181 00:11:56,483 --> 00:11:59,203 Hey, I've got somebody who wants to meet you. 182 00:11:59,204 --> 00:12:01,402 Dr Sally Ride. 183 00:12:01,403 --> 00:12:04,402 Oh... Our first woman in space. Well... 184 00:12:04,403 --> 00:12:05,961 Nice to meet you. 185 00:12:05,962 --> 00:12:07,961 You too. Mmm. 186 00:12:07,962 --> 00:12:09,281 Good journey? 187 00:12:09,282 --> 00:12:11,561 I took the red-eye from LA. 188 00:12:11,562 --> 00:12:12,881 Don't ever do it. 189 00:12:12,882 --> 00:12:16,801 Dr Alton Keel, our executive director. 190 00:12:16,802 --> 00:12:18,722 Nobel laureate, Richard Feynman. 191 00:12:18,723 --> 00:12:21,841 Your name I recognise too. Fellow physicist. 192 00:12:21,842 --> 00:12:24,882 Formerly. I've been in Washington several years. Oh. 193 00:12:26,402 --> 00:12:27,722 How's your integrity? 194 00:12:30,082 --> 00:12:31,921 That's just insulting. No! 195 00:12:31,922 --> 00:12:33,523 Don't take me seriously. 196 00:12:38,522 --> 00:12:40,401 Commissioners. 197 00:12:40,402 --> 00:12:44,241 I appreciate you all coming together at short notice. 198 00:12:44,242 --> 00:12:47,321 We have a huge, vital task ahead of us, 199 00:12:47,322 --> 00:12:49,160 upon which might depend the future 200 00:12:49,161 --> 00:12:51,362 of manned space flight in this country. 201 00:12:52,602 --> 00:12:54,922 Now, I intend for this investigation 202 00:12:54,923 --> 00:12:58,481 to follow an orderly and proper procedure. 203 00:12:58,482 --> 00:13:02,482 We are not going to conduct it in a manner that is in any way 204 00:13:02,483 --> 00:13:04,680 unfairly critical of NASA. 205 00:13:04,681 --> 00:13:07,079 Because we believe, and certainly I believe, 206 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,521 that NASA has done an excellent job. 207 00:13:09,522 --> 00:13:13,441 And I believe that the American people think so too. 208 00:13:13,442 --> 00:13:15,681 Anyone? 209 00:13:15,682 --> 00:13:19,001 We have to accept the fact that this shuttle 210 00:13:19,002 --> 00:13:21,560 is the most complex machine that's ever been built. 211 00:13:21,561 --> 00:13:24,322 I understand it has more than two and a half million parts. 212 00:13:25,642 --> 00:13:27,960 It may be, after due consideration, 213 00:13:27,961 --> 00:13:30,602 it's just not possible to identify the cause. 214 00:13:30,603 --> 00:13:31,681 Now... 215 00:13:31,682 --> 00:13:33,881 In terms of scheduling... That's nothing. 216 00:13:35,361 --> 00:13:36,599 I'm sorry, Dr Feynman? 217 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,601 Two and a half million - small potatoes. 218 00:13:40,281 --> 00:13:44,400 No, really look - I don't know much about space rockets, 219 00:13:44,401 --> 00:13:47,561 but I know a little something about probability. 220 00:13:47,562 --> 00:13:51,881 Something I developed called, um... path integral formulation. 221 00:13:54,882 --> 00:13:57,842 It's quantum mechanics, yuck, yuck. But, um... 222 00:13:57,843 --> 00:14:03,640 Basically, what it means is that you can figure out the probability 223 00:14:03,641 --> 00:14:05,840 of something occurring, 224 00:14:05,841 --> 00:14:09,480 not just when you get two and a half million events, 225 00:14:09,481 --> 00:14:14,000 but an infinity of possibilities. 226 00:14:14,001 --> 00:14:17,200 However large the number of causal paths 227 00:14:17,201 --> 00:14:20,320 for whatever happened to Challenger, 228 00:14:20,321 --> 00:14:22,281 an explanation can be found. 229 00:14:24,641 --> 00:14:27,721 What are we doing here if we don't think it's possible? 230 00:14:28,921 --> 00:14:30,081 Right? 231 00:14:32,641 --> 00:14:36,240 Er... Chairman Rogers, I headed an investigation 232 00:14:36,241 --> 00:14:38,159 into the failure of a Titan rocket, 233 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,039 and I suggest I outline the procedure we used there. 234 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,201 I appreciate the offer, General Kutyna, 235 00:14:43,202 --> 00:14:47,800 but I think in this case there's far less collectable evidence. 236 00:14:47,801 --> 00:14:50,599 I don't like to contradict you, sir, but in the case of the shuttle, 237 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,079 as there are human beings aboard, 238 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,039 it generates far more database material. 239 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,599 Mr Rogers, what the general said is the case. 240 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,319 There are external cameras, there are black box recordings, 241 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,198 there are telemetry sensors, there's a great deal of information. 242 00:15:02,199 --> 00:15:03,880 Thank you, General Kutyna. 243 00:15:03,881 --> 00:15:05,079 And Mr Armstrong. 244 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,599 I'm certain we can get back to this. 245 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:08,879 Please, anyone. 246 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:09,959 Chairman. Yes. 247 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,639 I don't know about anyone else, but, um... 248 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,201 Coming in, I got some major press attention. 249 00:15:16,481 --> 00:15:18,399 I'd like to know what we're to say. 250 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,919 For the sake of the astronaut families, 251 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,119 what are we saying at this point? 252 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,679 This is very important. 253 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,759 Any and all enquiries from the press 254 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,240 are to be directed to Chairman Rogers's office. 255 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,999 So, the plan is... 256 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,319 lady and gentlemen... 257 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,559 we will reconvene in five days' time. 258 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,160 But for the present, enjoy your stay in Washington. 259 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,200 What? 260 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,360 We're not going to..? That's it. 261 00:15:46,361 --> 00:15:49,120 Keel. We don't start right away? 262 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,400 Great. 263 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:11,439 Dr Feynman. 264 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,080 Bill Graham, head of NASA. 265 00:16:13,081 --> 00:16:14,799 Thank you. 266 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,078 You're the guy that got me into this. 267 00:16:17,079 --> 00:16:19,918 Well, I took your physics lectures way back, never forgotten. 268 00:16:19,919 --> 00:16:23,438 I think you're going to bring something unique to the Commission. 269 00:16:23,439 --> 00:16:27,597 I abandoned my teaching and a lot of important consulting to come here, 270 00:16:27,598 --> 00:16:30,679 didn't imagine I was going to be told to sit on my tush for a week. 271 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,719 So, here's what I'm going to need. 272 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,118 I'm going to need a crash course in shuttle design. 273 00:16:38,119 --> 00:16:40,758 I need to know everything on how this thing was put together, 274 00:16:40,759 --> 00:16:44,118 so if you can start supplying me with the technical manuals and so forth, 275 00:16:44,119 --> 00:16:47,238 and most of all, you gotta get me straight on the factory floor. 276 00:16:47,239 --> 00:16:48,718 Pretty new to NASA myself - 277 00:16:48,719 --> 00:16:50,800 I actually only took over two months ago. 278 00:16:50,801 --> 00:16:52,359 That's bad timing. 279 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,198 We're based here in Washington, 280 00:16:54,199 --> 00:16:55,758 but the shuttle engines and systems 281 00:16:55,759 --> 00:16:57,877 are all out of the Marshall Space Flight Center. 282 00:16:57,878 --> 00:16:59,437 It pretty much takes care of itself. 283 00:16:59,438 --> 00:17:00,997 You're the head of the whole shmeer, 284 00:17:00,998 --> 00:17:02,917 I mean, you can get me in this Marshall place, 285 00:17:02,918 --> 00:17:04,677 otherwise I'm a busy fella. 286 00:17:04,678 --> 00:17:07,399 I'll do my best. I'll get on it right away. 287 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:08,919 Right, thanks. 288 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,400 I like that you didn't let up there on the mighty chairman. 289 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,198 You take it. I don't care for limousines. 290 00:17:20,199 --> 00:17:21,278 Well, neither do I - 291 00:17:21,279 --> 00:17:24,240 I'm just a two-star general, don't get assigned a limousine. 292 00:17:24,241 --> 00:17:25,678 Take the subway. 293 00:17:25,679 --> 00:17:27,958 Hmm. 294 00:17:27,959 --> 00:17:29,279 Pleasure. You too. 295 00:17:32,839 --> 00:17:33,999 Taxi! 296 00:17:37,679 --> 00:17:40,319 Oh, and there was a phone call for you, sir. 297 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,959 Please call your doctor. 298 00:17:44,759 --> 00:17:47,239 Dr... Weiss? 299 00:17:48,719 --> 00:17:50,959 The elevator's just to your right, sir. 300 00:18:17,239 --> 00:18:20,157 ...to begin what may be a lengthy process. 301 00:18:20,158 --> 00:18:23,077 Millions of Americans who watched our heroes perish 302 00:18:23,078 --> 00:18:26,556 only 73 seconds after take-off on that cold January morning 303 00:18:26,557 --> 00:18:28,116 are waiting for answers. 304 00:18:28,117 --> 00:18:30,396 Nancy and I are pained to the core about the tragedy 305 00:18:30,397 --> 00:18:32,279 of the shuttle Challenger... 306 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,439 Hello. 307 00:18:35,519 --> 00:18:36,679 Graham. 308 00:18:38,199 --> 00:18:39,758 You got me in, great. 309 00:18:39,759 --> 00:18:43,318 I'll take a plane down in the morning. 310 00:18:43,319 --> 00:18:45,038 Thanks. 311 00:18:45,039 --> 00:18:46,079 Alpha plus. 312 00:18:48,279 --> 00:18:52,357 I've always had great faith in and respect for our space programme. 313 00:18:52,358 --> 00:18:54,438 We don't hide our space programme. 314 00:18:54,439 --> 00:18:57,637 We don't keep secrets and cover things up. 315 00:18:57,638 --> 00:19:00,397 We do it all upfront and in public. 316 00:19:00,398 --> 00:19:04,078 That's the way freedom is and we wouldn't change it for a minute. 317 00:19:15,799 --> 00:19:17,598 Wow, it's immense. 318 00:19:17,599 --> 00:19:19,157 This is an identical craft? 319 00:19:19,158 --> 00:19:20,837 No, it's a training simulator. 320 00:19:20,838 --> 00:19:25,518 but for your purposes, the flight deck systems, the payload bay, etc, 321 00:19:25,519 --> 00:19:27,038 virtually identical. 322 00:19:34,278 --> 00:19:36,638 Want to see the flight deck? 323 00:19:58,438 --> 00:20:01,718 You have four human beings jammed in this space? 324 00:20:01,719 --> 00:20:02,757 Can I sit here? 325 00:20:02,758 --> 00:20:03,798 Yeah. 326 00:20:06,118 --> 00:20:07,478 Wow. 327 00:20:09,238 --> 00:20:11,117 OK. So... 328 00:20:11,118 --> 00:20:13,997 they got S-Band communication links... 329 00:20:13,998 --> 00:20:16,637 environmental control systems... 330 00:20:16,638 --> 00:20:18,518 cabin pressure gauges... 331 00:20:19,678 --> 00:20:21,876 What is that? Emergency oxygen. 332 00:20:21,877 --> 00:20:24,077 Don't touch things. 333 00:20:27,317 --> 00:20:28,357 Hmm. 334 00:20:32,638 --> 00:20:34,078 Come on. 335 00:20:39,718 --> 00:20:42,557 Dick Feynman. I'm on the Commission. 336 00:20:42,558 --> 00:20:44,158 I got nothing to hide. 337 00:20:49,198 --> 00:20:50,715 If I was to ask you engineers, 338 00:20:50,716 --> 00:20:53,435 never mind what the managers say, but you guys... 339 00:20:53,436 --> 00:20:54,995 Given all your experience, 340 00:20:54,996 --> 00:20:59,835 what you thought the probability was of an accident on any single launch, 341 00:20:59,836 --> 00:21:00,877 what would you say? 342 00:21:07,597 --> 00:21:09,315 I mean, if you don't want to say out loud, 343 00:21:09,316 --> 00:21:11,477 perhaps you could write it down on a piece of paper. 344 00:21:26,317 --> 00:21:29,437 So you're looking at the solid rocket boosters. 345 00:21:29,438 --> 00:21:31,076 OK, so... 346 00:21:31,077 --> 00:21:33,236 They're not made here. 347 00:21:33,237 --> 00:21:37,236 No - they're made by contractors, Morton Thiokol in Utah. 348 00:21:37,237 --> 00:21:38,915 Railroaded into Kennedy in sections. 349 00:21:38,916 --> 00:21:41,955 That's a pretty standard tang and clevis joint. 350 00:21:41,956 --> 00:21:44,515 Look, there's no ways it was the solid rocket boosters. 351 00:21:44,516 --> 00:21:47,754 How so certain? Because they don't fly with holes in them. 352 00:21:47,755 --> 00:21:51,114 If it was the SRB, it would have exploded on the launch pad. 353 00:21:51,115 --> 00:21:53,395 These kept on flying, you see it in the footage. 354 00:21:53,396 --> 00:21:56,435 You watched the footage. Tell me what you saw. 355 00:21:56,436 --> 00:21:58,035 What went through your mind? 356 00:21:58,036 --> 00:21:59,357 What did you think it was? 357 00:21:59,358 --> 00:22:01,876 I thought it was the main engines. 358 00:22:01,877 --> 00:22:03,996 OK. Why? Why the main engines? 359 00:22:03,997 --> 00:22:05,555 Because of the complexity. 360 00:22:05,556 --> 00:22:08,997 They're working at the outer edge of any experience base. 361 00:22:08,998 --> 00:22:10,796 In the blade technology? 362 00:22:10,797 --> 00:22:12,797 No, no, no, it's more than the blades, it's... 363 00:22:13,797 --> 00:22:14,836 Hey... 364 00:22:14,837 --> 00:22:17,996 There is no ways that I'm ratting out my co-workers here. 365 00:22:17,997 --> 00:22:19,515 Look, pal... 366 00:22:19,516 --> 00:22:21,794 If we're not allowed to find out what went wrong, 367 00:22:21,795 --> 00:22:23,874 there will be no more co-workers. 368 00:22:23,875 --> 00:22:26,036 All these jobs will be gone, kaput. 369 00:22:28,476 --> 00:22:30,396 Won't be another shuttle launch. 370 00:22:32,997 --> 00:22:35,795 Of the events on the morning of the 28th of January, 371 00:22:35,796 --> 00:22:38,995 the Presidential Commission investigating the accident, 372 00:22:38,996 --> 00:22:41,395 headed by former Secretary of State William Rogers, 373 00:22:41,396 --> 00:22:43,237 has met mostly behind closed doors. 374 00:22:45,477 --> 00:22:48,474 So far, it's given no hints about what it believes 375 00:22:48,475 --> 00:22:49,916 may have been the cause. 376 00:22:52,516 --> 00:22:54,274 Meanwhile, off the coast of Florida, 377 00:22:54,275 --> 00:22:56,954 the hunt for Challenger wreckage continues. 378 00:22:56,955 --> 00:22:59,594 The combined NASA, naval and coastguard operation 379 00:22:59,595 --> 00:23:02,954 involving 14 ships, four submarines and 11 aircraft 380 00:23:02,955 --> 00:23:05,114 is combing hundreds of square miles of ocean. 381 00:23:05,115 --> 00:23:08,114 Although NASA today released pictures showing recovered debris, 382 00:23:08,115 --> 00:23:11,394 they've been unable to confirm that they've found the crew compartment. 383 00:23:11,395 --> 00:23:13,235 In the absence of detailed information 384 00:23:13,236 --> 00:23:15,034 about what happened to Challenger, 385 00:23:15,035 --> 00:23:17,794 speculation about the cause of the accident continues to grow. 386 00:23:17,795 --> 00:23:21,114 Recent theories include everything from a computer programming error 387 00:23:21,115 --> 00:23:22,836 to unusually strong winds. 388 00:24:00,116 --> 00:24:01,556 Chairman Rogers... 389 00:24:02,516 --> 00:24:05,316 The boats just pulled in the crew compartment. 390 00:24:08,276 --> 00:24:11,716 Can you tell me, was the oxygen activated? 391 00:24:14,595 --> 00:24:16,114 Yes, Dr Ride. 392 00:24:16,115 --> 00:24:17,595 It was. 393 00:24:18,595 --> 00:24:19,954 We... 394 00:24:19,955 --> 00:24:22,835 maybe won't make that public straight away. 395 00:24:23,955 --> 00:24:25,395 Excuse me. 396 00:24:41,756 --> 00:24:43,115 Dr Feynman. 397 00:24:44,195 --> 00:24:49,234 It's very important that this team stays together all the time. 398 00:24:49,235 --> 00:24:50,395 Why? 399 00:24:51,755 --> 00:24:54,955 It's been reported to me that you spent some time at Marshall. 400 00:24:54,956 --> 00:24:56,794 Alone. 401 00:24:56,795 --> 00:24:58,353 That's not very helpful. 402 00:24:58,354 --> 00:25:01,875 Oh, Mr Rogers, I don't find it helpful to stand around. 403 00:25:02,875 --> 00:25:06,354 The other commissioners are just being respectful. 404 00:25:06,355 --> 00:25:08,755 And you're saying I'm not? 405 00:25:10,715 --> 00:25:14,675 You understand the implications of the oxygen being activated? 406 00:25:14,676 --> 00:25:16,154 I do. 407 00:25:16,155 --> 00:25:18,555 The astronauts had to do that themselves. 408 00:25:19,795 --> 00:25:21,635 Which means that they were alive 409 00:25:21,636 --> 00:25:26,434 for at least some of those two minutes and 36 seconds 410 00:25:26,435 --> 00:25:28,473 before they slammed into the ocean. 411 00:25:28,474 --> 00:25:29,633 Mr Rogers, I'm an atheist. 412 00:25:29,634 --> 00:25:32,113 I personally doubt that they're touching the face of God, 413 00:25:32,114 --> 00:25:33,393 so I prefer to show my respect 414 00:25:33,394 --> 00:25:35,393 by finding the cause of their appalling deaths 415 00:25:35,394 --> 00:25:37,075 and not stand around looking sad. 416 00:25:39,955 --> 00:25:42,232 You know, I didn't even want to be on this commission 417 00:25:42,233 --> 00:25:43,312 but now that I'm on it, 418 00:25:43,313 --> 00:25:46,674 I've got every intention of finding out what went wrong. 419 00:25:46,675 --> 00:25:52,035 You know, I don't know that NASA did an excellent job. 420 00:26:01,675 --> 00:26:04,073 The group will be leaving in 30 minutes. 421 00:26:04,074 --> 00:26:07,753 Except for General Kutyna, who's made his own arrangements. 422 00:26:07,754 --> 00:26:09,794 I also may have my own arrangements. 423 00:26:12,234 --> 00:26:14,193 I can't force you to go. 424 00:26:14,194 --> 00:26:15,514 Nope. 425 00:26:33,995 --> 00:26:35,635 Are you going to work all night? 426 00:26:39,954 --> 00:26:43,433 Er... if necessary. I don't know. 427 00:26:43,434 --> 00:26:45,632 How do you plan to get back to Washington? 428 00:26:45,633 --> 00:26:47,914 Er... I got myself in kind of a pickle. 429 00:26:47,915 --> 00:26:50,593 I want to go back to Marshall. 430 00:26:50,594 --> 00:26:54,473 Guess I'll hire a car, but it's hundreds of miles. 431 00:26:54,474 --> 00:26:56,794 I can give you a lift. I'll drop you in Alabama. 432 00:26:56,795 --> 00:26:58,713 Oh. 433 00:26:58,714 --> 00:26:59,833 Thank you. 434 00:26:59,834 --> 00:27:01,154 Here. 0600? 435 00:27:02,154 --> 00:27:03,194 OK. 436 00:27:14,554 --> 00:27:15,712 I may not get a limo, 437 00:27:15,713 --> 00:27:18,154 but occasionally I get the use of a government jet. 438 00:27:19,354 --> 00:27:22,594 No..! You imagined I was going to drive you 400 miles? 439 00:27:22,595 --> 00:27:24,754 This is tremendous. 440 00:27:26,554 --> 00:27:28,033 New for you? 441 00:27:28,034 --> 00:27:30,194 You serious? No! 442 00:27:31,394 --> 00:27:34,033 Whoa-ho-ho-ho! 443 00:27:34,034 --> 00:27:36,074 Oh! 444 00:27:37,033 --> 00:27:38,073 It's OK. 445 00:27:45,473 --> 00:27:47,351 You know, what you have to realise 446 00:27:47,352 --> 00:27:49,633 is that you are uniquely independent. 447 00:27:51,553 --> 00:27:52,634 Yeah, how's that? 448 00:27:52,635 --> 00:27:53,673 Well... 449 00:27:53,674 --> 00:27:56,594 everyone on the commission has strong associations. 450 00:27:58,034 --> 00:28:01,393 To whom? Well, to NASA - Armstrong, Ride... 451 00:28:01,394 --> 00:28:04,434 The government - Keel - Rogers was Secretary of State. 452 00:28:05,434 --> 00:28:08,513 And Bill Graham's even a personal friend of President Reagan's. 453 00:28:08,514 --> 00:28:10,472 And you? 454 00:28:10,473 --> 00:28:11,513 Me, the Air Force. 455 00:28:12,593 --> 00:28:15,273 How does the Air Force... Air Force three niner two six five. 456 00:28:15,274 --> 00:28:17,472 Low on four three zero. 457 00:28:17,473 --> 00:28:18,713 Heading three two zero. 458 00:28:20,313 --> 00:28:21,633 Two six five. 459 00:28:23,313 --> 00:28:25,993 How does the Air Force... You're the only independent. 460 00:28:25,994 --> 00:28:28,032 I'm independent. 461 00:28:28,033 --> 00:28:29,552 I'm invincible. 462 00:28:29,553 --> 00:28:31,232 Yeah... 463 00:28:31,233 --> 00:28:32,673 but check six. 464 00:28:32,674 --> 00:28:34,472 What check six? That's, um... 465 00:28:34,473 --> 00:28:36,633 That's a fighter pilot's expression. 466 00:28:36,634 --> 00:28:38,312 Six o'clock. 467 00:28:38,313 --> 00:28:40,433 The blind spot. Directly behind you. 468 00:28:40,434 --> 00:28:41,473 Uh-huh. 469 00:28:43,673 --> 00:28:44,993 Watch my ass. 470 00:28:49,073 --> 00:28:50,912 OK, watch your ass here. 471 00:28:50,913 --> 00:28:52,673 What? It's a little steep. 472 00:29:16,073 --> 00:29:18,193 That's what we call the diamond. 473 00:29:18,194 --> 00:29:21,073 Wow, now that is very beautiful. 474 00:29:27,553 --> 00:29:29,792 What the hell? 475 00:29:29,793 --> 00:29:32,153 You happy with that, with that vibration? 476 00:29:32,154 --> 00:29:35,312 Don't worry, it steadies again after 65%. 477 00:29:37,912 --> 00:29:41,951 But to get to 65%, you gotta go through that? 478 00:29:41,952 --> 00:29:43,632 Sometimes, yeah. 479 00:29:48,192 --> 00:29:51,592 Can I see components, the blades? 480 00:30:00,273 --> 00:30:01,833 Oh, what is that? 481 00:30:03,152 --> 00:30:05,592 It's a crack... in this blade. 482 00:30:07,192 --> 00:30:08,712 There's an obvious crack. 483 00:30:17,872 --> 00:30:19,391 Yeah. 484 00:30:19,392 --> 00:30:21,670 The blades often get those after a flight, 485 00:30:21,671 --> 00:30:24,310 but that's not a flight safety problem. 486 00:30:24,311 --> 00:30:27,590 Well, what is it, then? We were told to log it as a maintenance problem. 487 00:30:27,591 --> 00:30:31,390 Only if it develops into a full fracture, THAT would be a failure. 488 00:30:31,391 --> 00:30:34,232 So a failure only happens if it actually shears off? 489 00:30:34,233 --> 00:30:35,272 Uh-huh. 490 00:30:36,712 --> 00:30:40,071 Bull! The failure is the crack. 491 00:30:40,072 --> 00:30:41,670 Well, you could argue that... 492 00:30:41,671 --> 00:30:44,990 The failure is the crack - I mean, because it's not in the design. 493 00:30:44,991 --> 00:30:47,592 You know and I know it's not supposed to crack. 494 00:30:51,992 --> 00:30:53,872 Who has the rest of the test data? 495 00:30:57,552 --> 00:30:58,912 Is that it? 496 00:31:57,232 --> 00:32:02,750 I think we should start this discussion on the step-by-step process, so... 497 00:32:02,751 --> 00:32:06,470 Concentrate the investigation on the main engines. 498 00:32:06,471 --> 00:32:09,390 There are cracked turbine blades. 499 00:32:09,391 --> 00:32:12,991 As early as 1,375 seconds, equivalent to full power level. 500 00:32:12,992 --> 00:32:16,950 Also, at 4,000 hertz, there are some nasty vibrations. 501 00:32:16,951 --> 00:32:19,909 So you think the cause lies within the engines? 502 00:32:19,910 --> 00:32:22,709 I'd bet my last dime on it. I just got back from Marshall. 503 00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:26,149 I just heard an interesting new definition of the word "failure". 504 00:32:26,150 --> 00:32:28,910 Well, it's interesting that you should say that, Doctor. 505 00:32:28,911 --> 00:32:33,310 We've just received the telemetry data from NASA, 506 00:32:33,311 --> 00:32:35,470 and the sensors on the engines 507 00:32:35,471 --> 00:32:38,990 show that they performed absolutely perfectly. 508 00:32:38,991 --> 00:32:41,030 Get out of here! 509 00:32:41,031 --> 00:32:46,230 The engines began to shut down as fuel pressure decreased, 510 00:32:46,231 --> 00:32:47,791 exactly as designed. 511 00:32:48,791 --> 00:32:53,951 That's extremely lucky, because I'm telling you, those engines have profound problems. 512 00:32:53,952 --> 00:32:57,521 Now there is a step-by-step process for us all to follow, 513 00:32:58,386 --> 00:33:01,912 and I respectfully request that from now on... 514 00:33:02,368 --> 00:33:04,418 you abide by it. 515 00:33:04,830 --> 00:33:07,630 We're all trying to find the answer. 516 00:33:09,790 --> 00:33:12,311 All right, we begin. 517 00:33:15,511 --> 00:33:17,151 Step by step. 518 00:33:18,911 --> 00:33:20,351 Crap. 519 00:33:25,431 --> 00:33:26,550 Prof... 520 00:33:29,270 --> 00:33:31,270 Don't let the chairman put you off. 521 00:33:33,150 --> 00:33:37,948 Look, you should come by the house some night for a bite, if that appeals. 522 00:33:37,949 --> 00:33:40,510 Yeah? OK, good. Excuse me for a second. 523 00:33:40,511 --> 00:33:42,189 Listen... 524 00:33:42,190 --> 00:33:46,510 Graham, why didn't I know that we had the results from the sensors on the engines? 525 00:33:47,670 --> 00:33:50,788 Is NASA drip-feeding us information to suit itself? 526 00:33:50,789 --> 00:33:53,991 I hear you. I'm doing this with one hand tied behind my back. 527 00:33:53,992 --> 00:33:57,029 I hear you, but.. 528 00:33:57,030 --> 00:34:00,230 Richard...? 529 00:34:03,350 --> 00:34:04,510 You OK? 530 00:34:11,470 --> 00:34:13,150 I'll see you tomorrow. 531 00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:31,708 I goofed. I thought I had the answer. I was way off. 532 00:34:31,709 --> 00:34:36,029 So what are you going to do? Are you going to stick with it? 533 00:34:36,030 --> 00:34:37,710 I don't know. 534 00:34:39,910 --> 00:34:43,750 Listen, there's a knock on the door. I'll call you later. 'All right. ' 535 00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:17,830 I'm not sure why they chose to just lay them in this order. 536 00:35:17,831 --> 00:35:19,709 It's difficult to tell, 537 00:35:19,710 --> 00:35:22,310 but this is... this is half that... 538 00:35:23,389 --> 00:35:24,709 Chairman Rogers... 539 00:35:26,589 --> 00:35:31,468 NASA's Failure Analysis team supplied a still from camera E207, 540 00:35:31,469 --> 00:35:33,069 trained on-flight. 541 00:35:37,629 --> 00:35:40,549 It looks like it took a long time for this photograph to appear. 542 00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:43,269 Well, it's here now. What is that? 543 00:35:46,549 --> 00:35:48,268 A flame? 544 00:35:48,269 --> 00:35:51,746 Coming from a position on the side of the solid rocket booster? 545 00:35:51,747 --> 00:35:54,149 Did we know that? Did we know that already? 546 00:35:59,789 --> 00:36:03,668 Did we get stills from other angles? Am I right? 547 00:36:03,669 --> 00:36:06,107 They had cameras all around? Yeah. Yes. 548 00:36:06,108 --> 00:36:09,867 Some of the cameras that were looking directly at the area 549 00:36:09,868 --> 00:36:11,989 were not working on the day, I'm told. 550 00:36:18,229 --> 00:36:21,548 Well, that's unfortunate. Hm. 551 00:36:25,708 --> 00:36:27,708 May I have that, please? Of course. 552 00:36:44,429 --> 00:36:47,549 Am I super-late? I had to pick this up at the lab. 553 00:36:47,550 --> 00:36:50,267 No, no, it's not a problem. Nice car. 554 00:36:50,268 --> 00:36:52,868 You like it? Like it? I LOVE it. 555 00:36:54,108 --> 00:36:57,668 I don't know if that enlargement's going to tell us anything. 556 00:36:57,669 --> 00:37:00,067 Let's see. 557 00:37:00,068 --> 00:37:03,626 Well, it's somewhat clearer, no? No, that just makes the whole thing wider open. 558 00:37:03,627 --> 00:37:06,586 But the flamer is sharper. But that flame, where is it originating? 559 00:37:06,587 --> 00:37:08,866 Perhaps what we're seeing is the tip of a larger flame 560 00:37:08,867 --> 00:37:11,308 on the other side where there's no damned camera. 561 00:37:12,909 --> 00:37:16,909 A flame is not a cause. A flame is an effect, it's a symptom. 562 00:37:16,910 --> 00:37:20,867 That doesn't tell us which component split, 563 00:37:20,868 --> 00:37:23,348 sheared off, cracked. It shows us nothing. 564 00:37:25,268 --> 00:37:26,668 It takes us nowhere. 565 00:37:28,428 --> 00:37:29,986 I want to show you something. 566 00:37:29,987 --> 00:37:32,786 Multiple successful launches, identical components 567 00:37:32,787 --> 00:37:36,348 and launch locations, so what made that day special? 568 00:37:36,349 --> 00:37:38,707 What were the variables? 569 00:37:38,708 --> 00:37:39,828 Take a break, Prof. 570 00:37:48,387 --> 00:37:50,787 Oh! 571 00:37:53,108 --> 00:37:55,467 You lucky fella! 572 00:37:55,468 --> 00:37:59,106 Yeah, I'd be luckier if I could get it running. It's out of commission. 573 00:37:59,107 --> 00:38:01,428 The carburettors seize in this weather. 574 00:38:06,148 --> 00:38:07,948 This must be how you stay calm. 575 00:38:09,268 --> 00:38:13,628 Roger The Dodger's got me going crazy with that process of his. 576 00:38:15,308 --> 00:38:18,705 He's a lawyer. He's working it through the way he knows. 577 00:38:18,706 --> 00:38:22,625 Yeah, well, maybe some others are kind of working it through the way they know. 578 00:38:22,626 --> 00:38:25,547 What? You think somebody's working it for themselves? 579 00:38:25,548 --> 00:38:29,186 Do you? It's Washington, after all. 580 00:38:29,187 --> 00:38:34,427 I can't believe I got myself back in this world - government, politics... 581 00:38:34,428 --> 00:38:37,067 And military guys like me. 582 00:38:37,068 --> 00:38:39,428 You're surprisingly OK. 583 00:38:41,028 --> 00:38:44,748 I guess you had your fill of military personnel through the '40s. 584 00:38:50,027 --> 00:38:51,427 What was your role back then? 585 00:38:54,307 --> 00:38:57,747 When? During the war, with the A-bomb. 586 00:39:02,587 --> 00:39:07,267 I did the theoretical figuring. It was the math. 587 00:39:08,707 --> 00:39:11,525 I calculated how much fissionable material would 588 00:39:11,895 --> 00:39:14,468 be necessary to make an effective weapon. 589 00:39:17,627 --> 00:39:19,347 It's not a good use of science. 590 00:39:26,827 --> 00:39:28,747 You helped end the war. 591 00:39:32,347 --> 00:39:34,827 Wow, this is beautiful! 592 00:39:36,627 --> 00:39:38,265 Shall we try that Bordeaux? 593 00:39:38,266 --> 00:39:41,547 You go ahead. I no longer drink. If I drink, I can't think. 594 00:39:52,187 --> 00:39:55,385 Oh, sir, we had maintenance look at your heating. 595 00:39:55,386 --> 00:39:58,467 Oh, thank you. Let me know if you still feel chilly. 596 00:40:07,387 --> 00:40:11,147 Could you help me find the number of the National Weather Service? 597 00:40:16,866 --> 00:40:18,145 There you go. 598 00:40:18,146 --> 00:40:20,106 Can I borrow this? Sure. 599 00:40:21,146 --> 00:40:24,585 Yeah, please. Not a forecast. 600 00:40:24,586 --> 00:40:28,825 The temperature at Cape Canaveral. Nearby? 601 00:40:28,826 --> 00:40:33,427 Yeah, Jacksonville, Florida, on the morning of the 28th of January. 602 00:40:40,667 --> 00:40:41,707 Thank you. 603 00:40:52,586 --> 00:40:54,466 That's the variable. 604 00:40:57,066 --> 00:40:58,825 I got the variable. 605 00:40:58,826 --> 00:41:01,944 It was freezing cold on the morning of the launch. We need to focus 606 00:41:01,945 --> 00:41:05,904 our questioning of the NASA managers on stuff to do with temperature. 607 00:41:05,905 --> 00:41:07,824 Temperature? You're talking about ice? 608 00:41:07,825 --> 00:41:10,904 I don't know. Perhaps added weight of ice, perhaps some metal component 609 00:41:10,905 --> 00:41:13,184 becoming brittle. I don't know which component. 610 00:41:13,185 --> 00:41:15,704 There are only two and a half million possibilities! 611 00:41:15,705 --> 00:41:16,984 I'm pretty certain. 612 00:41:16,985 --> 00:41:19,146 As certain as you were about the engines? 613 00:41:27,706 --> 00:41:31,026 Anything from NASA Failure Analysis? Due this afternoon. 614 00:41:34,226 --> 00:41:36,706 Dr Feynman's becoming a real pain in the ass. > 615 00:41:38,346 --> 00:41:39,826 Well, yeah. 616 00:41:43,625 --> 00:41:44,745 You betcha. 617 00:42:31,025 --> 00:42:33,546 Dr Weiss? Dick. 618 00:42:36,586 --> 00:42:37,986 What are you doing here? 619 00:42:39,026 --> 00:42:41,583 Well, if the mountain won't go to Muhammad... 620 00:42:41,584 --> 00:42:43,383 You didn't answer my calls. 621 00:42:43,384 --> 00:42:45,863 So you tracked me down all the way across the country?! 622 00:42:45,864 --> 00:42:48,785 Nah, nah, nah. I'm at Washington Hospital Center for a conference. 623 00:42:48,786 --> 00:42:51,504 You got an hour to come over there? 624 00:42:51,505 --> 00:42:54,265 Now? Yeah. 625 00:42:55,785 --> 00:42:57,225 Sure. Hold on. 626 00:42:58,585 --> 00:43:02,617 Um... I need to get this delivered to Dr Keel, 627 00:43:03,012 --> 00:43:05,483 Presidential Commission - this address. 628 00:43:06,065 --> 00:43:08,302 It's extremely important that it gets there. 629 00:43:08,303 --> 00:43:09,624 Yes, sir. Thank you. 630 00:43:13,505 --> 00:43:14,545 Good to see you! 631 00:43:28,185 --> 00:43:31,424 With a vengeance? Mm-hm. 632 00:43:31,425 --> 00:43:33,905 It's compromising your remaining kidney. 633 00:43:37,225 --> 00:43:39,664 Show me the cells. It's here. 634 00:43:51,184 --> 00:43:54,105 OK. That is not so pretty. 635 00:43:55,785 --> 00:43:58,385 I read up on my chances if my sarcoma recurred. 636 00:43:59,585 --> 00:44:02,063 What's the deal if we add in this lymphoma? 637 00:44:02,064 --> 00:44:04,745 It's pretty difficult to calculate the combined... 638 00:44:04,746 --> 00:44:07,383 Don't weasel it, Doc. It's math. 639 00:44:07,384 --> 00:44:09,664 Look, Dick, it's not something we see. 640 00:44:09,665 --> 00:44:12,743 The particular cancers you have, they're... 641 00:44:12,744 --> 00:44:17,503 they're extremely rare. The chance of having them in conjunction... 642 00:44:17,504 --> 00:44:19,824 Well, given what you were doing during the war... 643 00:44:19,825 --> 00:44:21,224 If it even matters. 644 00:44:24,464 --> 00:44:28,784 What do you think? Well, the radiation - what safety precautions were there? 645 00:44:28,785 --> 00:44:30,184 For the test, I... 646 00:44:31,224 --> 00:44:34,665 For the test I had a pair of dark glasses, which I never put on. 647 00:44:35,904 --> 00:44:38,624 Jeez, they were... they were crazy days. 648 00:44:40,944 --> 00:44:42,943 We never slept. 649 00:44:42,944 --> 00:44:46,862 We were on fire, you know, getting the theory and the math 650 00:44:46,863 --> 00:44:50,502 and the physics. It was a race. We thought we were saving civilisation, 651 00:44:50,503 --> 00:44:54,862 but then we found out the Germans didn't have nuclear capability 652 00:44:54,863 --> 00:44:57,784 and we kept on. The science was... so exciting. 653 00:45:06,263 --> 00:45:07,503 Should have stopped. 654 00:45:09,543 --> 00:45:13,864 We threw a party. While people struggled and died, we threw a party. 655 00:45:14,904 --> 00:45:17,103 Hey, you were young. 656 00:45:17,104 --> 00:45:18,144 I wasn't a child. 657 00:45:19,184 --> 00:45:20,624 Yeah. 658 00:45:25,704 --> 00:45:26,744 OK. 659 00:45:32,824 --> 00:45:35,023 I guess we'll talk on the phone. Sure. 660 00:45:37,703 --> 00:45:40,183 I think there are probably worse ways to go. 661 00:45:42,423 --> 00:45:44,302 Hey, your hands are cold. 662 00:45:44,303 --> 00:45:45,823 All the time. What is that? 663 00:45:47,783 --> 00:45:49,223 It's possibly lymphoma. 664 00:45:50,263 --> 00:45:53,662 The blood gets gummy. Capillaries lose their flexibility - 665 00:45:53,663 --> 00:45:54,784 they can't expand. 666 00:45:56,184 --> 00:45:57,224 Thanks. 667 00:46:01,424 --> 00:46:04,143 Yeah, just talk to me about components that are flexible. 668 00:46:05,663 --> 00:46:07,943 What about a solid rocket booster? 669 00:46:10,143 --> 00:46:11,263 Go ahead. 670 00:46:16,703 --> 00:46:18,222 Thank you, Louis. 671 00:46:18,223 --> 00:46:21,862 Hey, I thought this might be helpful. 672 00:46:21,863 --> 00:46:23,903 It's a section model of the SRB joint. 673 00:46:25,423 --> 00:46:28,183 I don't want to see a model. I want to see the real thing. 674 00:46:38,343 --> 00:46:40,542 So there are two O-rings 675 00:46:40,543 --> 00:46:42,902 and they squidge in here? 676 00:46:42,903 --> 00:46:44,342 Correct. 677 00:46:44,343 --> 00:46:47,143 Has there ever been a history of problems with them? 678 00:46:47,144 --> 00:46:51,062 Well, there has been some erosion, even some blow-by. 679 00:46:51,063 --> 00:46:52,502 "Blow-by" is what? 680 00:46:52,503 --> 00:46:54,861 Soot getting past the first O-ring. 681 00:46:54,862 --> 00:46:57,901 That would mean that the seal is incomplete? 682 00:46:57,902 --> 00:47:00,621 Right, but the manufacturer said that... Morton Thiokol? 683 00:47:00,622 --> 00:47:04,940 Right, Thiokol said that the blow-by never got past the second O-ring, never. 684 00:47:04,941 --> 00:47:08,942 But if something prevented the O-ring from doing its job... 685 00:47:10,462 --> 00:47:15,663 ...if it became rigid because, for example, it was cold...? 686 00:47:25,983 --> 00:47:29,702 I think what we're looking at is the O-rings 687 00:47:29,703 --> 00:47:31,821 within the seal of the SRB. 688 00:47:31,822 --> 00:47:34,860 Lower temperatures would diminish the flexibility. 689 00:47:34,861 --> 00:47:37,020 Rubber would get harder, less malleable. 690 00:47:37,021 --> 00:47:40,382 At a certain point it would be too rigid to move into the gap. 691 00:47:42,142 --> 00:47:43,661 Bill... 692 00:47:43,662 --> 00:47:48,301 I need any data NASA have on the timings of spring-back. 693 00:47:48,302 --> 00:47:54,302 Resilience of the SRB O-rings in response to temperature. 694 00:47:54,303 --> 00:47:56,103 Ladies and gentlemen, good morning. 695 00:47:56,104 --> 00:47:59,581 Just a reminder that we have many witnesses today 696 00:47:59,582 --> 00:48:01,822 and the press will be in the room. 697 00:48:03,542 --> 00:48:06,942 Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to call the commission to order, 698 00:48:06,943 --> 00:48:11,942 so please take your seats, make yourselves comfortable. 699 00:48:13,702 --> 00:48:15,622 Pilot to co-pilot, fix your hair. 700 00:48:17,022 --> 00:48:19,741 Our first witness is Mr Mulloy. 701 00:48:19,742 --> 00:48:24,020 Mr Mulloy, would you come forward and identify yourself, please? 702 00:48:24,021 --> 00:48:25,420 I am Lawrence Mulloy. 703 00:48:25,421 --> 00:48:28,260 Solid rocket booster project manager for NASA 704 00:48:28,261 --> 00:48:30,661 at the Marshall Space Flight Center. 705 00:48:30,662 --> 00:48:33,062 All right. Commissioners? Anyone? 706 00:48:36,582 --> 00:48:38,022 Dr Ride? 707 00:48:39,822 --> 00:48:41,421 Mr Mulloy... 708 00:48:41,422 --> 00:48:45,022 in your position at the Marshall Space Flight Center, 709 00:48:45,023 --> 00:48:48,782 you'd be aware of correspondence, memos, etc? 710 00:48:51,062 --> 00:48:53,982 I guess I'm wondering whether memos exist relating 711 00:48:53,983 --> 00:48:59,540 to problems of launching with O - rings at low temperatures. 712 00:48:59,541 --> 00:49:03,259 I understand the morning of the launch was exceptionally cold. 713 00:49:03,260 --> 00:49:05,421 I'm not aware of such documents at Marshall. 714 00:49:08,141 --> 00:49:11,902 It's not correspondence, but on the evening before the launch, 715 00:49:11,903 --> 00:49:16,941 as a matter of routine, those of us from NASA asked our technical people 716 00:49:16,942 --> 00:49:21,822 and our contractors if there were any concerns about low temperature. 717 00:49:22,982 --> 00:49:26,819 Morton Thiokol, who make the solid rocket boosters, presented us 718 00:49:26,820 --> 00:49:28,941 with the fact that the lowest temperature 719 00:49:28,942 --> 00:49:32,860 we had ever flown an O-ring was 53 degrees, 720 00:49:32,861 --> 00:49:38,059 and they wanted to point out that we would be outside of that experience base. 721 00:49:38,060 --> 00:49:42,419 But having heard the discussion, we... we all concluded that there 722 00:49:42,420 --> 00:49:46,099 was no problem with the predicted temperatures, and I have 723 00:49:46,100 --> 00:49:49,021 a document from the management of Morton Thiokol to that effect. 724 00:49:50,781 --> 00:49:52,620 Thank you. Thank you, Mr Mulloy. 725 00:49:52,621 --> 00:49:54,622 You may stand down, for the time being. 726 00:49:54,623 --> 00:49:58,620 There's some guy in the back who wants to say something. 727 00:49:58,621 --> 00:50:00,260 I have something to add. 728 00:50:00,261 --> 00:50:03,379 I beg your pardon? I... I need to add to what he said, please. 729 00:50:03,380 --> 00:50:06,821 All right, sir. Please, step forward, step forward. Identify yourself. 730 00:50:15,021 --> 00:50:19,900 My name is Allan McDonald. I work for Morton Thiokol. 731 00:50:19,901 --> 00:50:22,901 I'm the director of the solid rocket motors project, 732 00:50:22,902 --> 00:50:26,139 so I was at the launch at Kennedy. 733 00:50:26,140 --> 00:50:28,178 I'd like to say something about the meeting 734 00:50:28,179 --> 00:50:31,500 the night before the launch that Mr Mulloy talked about. 735 00:50:33,501 --> 00:50:37,541 Our Thiokol engineers... warned NASA. 736 00:50:40,381 --> 00:50:44,100 They recommended NASA not to launch below 53 degrees 737 00:50:44,101 --> 00:50:45,261 and I agreed with them. 738 00:50:45,262 --> 00:50:48,740 That was the coldest that we knew was safe. 739 00:50:48,741 --> 00:50:53,700 So you said not to launch below 53 degrees? 740 00:50:53,701 --> 00:50:55,900 And what was the actual temperature that morning? 741 00:50:57,060 --> 00:51:01,299 We believed that, at launch, it was going to be much colder. 742 00:51:01,300 --> 00:51:04,780 Below 32 degrees, below freezing. 743 00:51:07,060 --> 00:51:08,820 NASA wasn't happy with that. 744 00:51:08,821 --> 00:51:13,020 Larry Mulloy said, "My God, Thiokol! 745 00:51:13,021 --> 00:51:15,301 "When do we launch? April?!" 746 00:51:17,741 --> 00:51:19,862 Let me understand this... now... 747 00:51:22,035 --> 00:51:24,834 are you saying that NASA applied pressure 748 00:51:25,312 --> 00:51:28,100 to change the launch recommendation? 749 00:51:29,180 --> 00:51:33,138 Yes, sir, there was pressure. They said, "Go review the data. " 750 00:51:33,139 --> 00:51:37,540 Our people in Utah came back, and recommended to NASA to launch. 751 00:51:38,820 --> 00:51:40,580 I refused to sign. 752 00:51:45,020 --> 00:51:47,419 It is important that NASA be given 753 00:51:47,420 --> 00:51:51,140 the-the opportunity to respond to what's just been alleged. 754 00:51:51,141 --> 00:51:52,659 We must allow... 755 00:51:52,660 --> 00:51:54,460 What the hell is going on here? 756 00:52:01,580 --> 00:52:03,898 Some people say McDonald's doing a CYA. 757 00:52:03,899 --> 00:52:06,538 "CYA". What is that? That stands for "cover your ass". 758 00:52:06,539 --> 00:52:09,698 But if they were warned... The astronauts sure weren't. 759 00:52:09,699 --> 00:52:12,298 I want to know what's happening right here between NASA 760 00:52:12,299 --> 00:52:14,660 and the contractors. We need to talk more to HIM. 761 00:52:14,661 --> 00:52:17,819 Richard. Richard, the data you wanted 762 00:52:17,820 --> 00:52:19,898 on the resistance timings of the O-rings... 763 00:52:19,899 --> 00:52:23,779 OK, thanks. We need to hear more from him. Can you stop Mr McDonald from...? 764 00:52:24,979 --> 00:52:26,499 Damn. 765 00:53:01,339 --> 00:53:06,619 Hi. I need to contact Allan McDonald with NASA's Challenger Failure Analysis team. 766 00:53:06,620 --> 00:53:10,978 I phoned, but I was told he's no longer in Washington. 767 00:53:10,979 --> 00:53:12,660 That information is restricted. 768 00:53:15,180 --> 00:53:17,778 He was on the team but he's been removed? 769 00:53:17,779 --> 00:53:18,980 I can't answer that, sir. 770 00:53:25,659 --> 00:53:29,818 Look, all I want to do is speak to Allan McDonald. What?! 771 00:53:29,819 --> 00:53:34,737 So there's no-one I can talk to in the whole entirety of Morton Thiokol? 772 00:53:34,738 --> 00:53:37,179 There's no-one who can answer my question? 773 00:53:39,179 --> 00:53:40,579 Well, have a nice day! 774 00:54:19,658 --> 00:54:22,737 General... 775 00:54:22,738 --> 00:54:25,497 I tried to find McDonald. 776 00:54:25,498 --> 00:54:29,178 No luck, and it's clear why his bosses wanted to please NASA - 777 00:54:29,179 --> 00:54:31,697 very big money at stake. 778 00:54:31,698 --> 00:54:33,379 I'll catch you later. 779 00:54:43,779 --> 00:54:45,418 Hey, Graham. 780 00:54:45,419 --> 00:54:49,937 That spring-back on the O-ring was measured over two hours. 781 00:54:49,938 --> 00:54:51,937 It's useless information. 782 00:54:51,938 --> 00:54:54,176 I'm really sorry. That's what I got from Marshall. 783 00:54:54,177 --> 00:54:57,576 Remember what it was to be a scientist before government got to you? 784 00:54:57,577 --> 00:55:00,418 You don't think I gave you...? On purpose...? 785 00:55:01,458 --> 00:55:02,937 No. 786 00:55:02,938 --> 00:55:06,137 Look, I have this grand title. 787 00:55:06,138 --> 00:55:09,736 The NASA old guard, they handed me a list of who should be on the commission. 788 00:55:09,737 --> 00:55:12,059 It was tough to persuade them to take you. 789 00:55:13,499 --> 00:55:16,857 I'm sorry to have gotten you into this. 790 00:55:16,858 --> 00:55:18,845 Well, when you read my notes that I sent, 791 00:55:19,218 --> 00:55:21,535 you'll see the crap that goes down at Marshall. 792 00:55:22,151 --> 00:55:26,017 Notes? My write-ups. 793 00:55:26,018 --> 00:55:29,818 Those analyses and my examination of the crazy engineering. 794 00:55:37,098 --> 00:55:38,658 Richard. Richard... 795 00:55:42,058 --> 00:55:47,537 Sally, did you get a set of notes, my observations? 796 00:55:49,097 --> 00:55:51,417 No, I haven't had anything. 797 00:56:03,618 --> 00:56:05,538 What the hell happened to my notes? 798 00:56:06,738 --> 00:56:09,938 Sally Ride says she didn't get them. Did the others? 799 00:56:14,817 --> 00:56:18,216 OK. I had sent over from my hotel 800 00:56:18,217 --> 00:56:21,215 a stack of typed-up notes, wrapped in brown paper, 801 00:56:21,216 --> 00:56:24,529 proper analyses of all my observations of the engineering so far, with a request 802 00:56:24,946 --> 00:56:27,860 for you to have copies made for each commissioner. I have no knowledge of this. 803 00:56:28,456 --> 00:56:31,695 No such notes ever arrived on this desk. Perhaps you can have them redone? 804 00:56:31,696 --> 00:56:33,016 I don't have time for this! 805 00:56:33,017 --> 00:56:36,338 You trusted your hotel to deliver something so important? 806 00:56:37,818 --> 00:56:39,977 Yeah. 807 00:56:39,978 --> 00:56:42,737 Dr Feynman, please, as you can see, 808 00:56:42,738 --> 00:56:47,017 NASA is now co-operating fully with all of our requests for information. 809 00:56:56,297 --> 00:56:58,375 Well, then, have copies made of everything 810 00:56:58,376 --> 00:57:00,017 and have it sent over to my hotel. 811 00:57:07,577 --> 00:57:09,615 I don't know what's going on, honey. 812 00:57:09,616 --> 00:57:12,857 I landed myself right back in a load of political crap. 813 00:57:14,177 --> 00:57:17,937 People seem to know a lot more than what they're saying. 'Yeah?' 814 00:57:19,617 --> 00:57:22,217 And I finally got a ton of stuff from NASA. 815 00:57:23,537 --> 00:57:27,896 It's full of anomalies. How can that be critical one moment 816 00:57:27,897 --> 00:57:29,537 and safe to operate the next? 817 00:57:32,177 --> 00:57:35,777 Honey, I'm sorry. It's best for me to call you later. 818 00:57:37,137 --> 00:57:39,576 - Are you all right? - I'm fine. 819 00:57:39,577 --> 00:57:41,975 Honestly? 820 00:57:41,976 --> 00:57:44,495 No, I feel very well. 821 00:57:44,496 --> 00:57:47,575 Oh, all right. Speak tomorrow. 822 00:57:47,576 --> 00:57:49,056 Yeah. 823 00:57:58,257 --> 00:58:00,137 "Ivory soap. " 824 00:58:02,537 --> 00:58:04,737 "Ivory soap. " 825 00:58:40,656 --> 00:58:42,495 General. 826 00:58:42,496 --> 00:58:46,214 OK, look, this is driving me crazy. I got a room full of NASA bullshit 827 00:58:46,215 --> 00:58:49,376 that just makes me more sure certain what caused the explosion. 828 00:58:49,377 --> 00:58:53,135 The cold, OK? We've got a guy who agrees with us. 829 00:58:53,136 --> 00:58:54,934 He gets shoved off the enquiry. 830 00:58:54,935 --> 00:58:57,296 We both know why, but none of it answers. 831 00:58:58,296 --> 00:59:00,936 There's a logic thing here that I'm just not getting. 832 00:59:00,937 --> 00:59:04,255 It's about what is at the heart of this thing. 833 00:59:04,256 --> 00:59:08,135 Why did NASA need to launch so bad? 834 00:59:08,136 --> 00:59:10,855 OK, stop, Prof, I can't answer this here. 835 00:59:12,136 --> 00:59:16,895 Erm... I'll pick you up in the morning. 8:15. 836 00:59:16,896 --> 00:59:20,335 And bring full ID. OK? 837 00:59:20,336 --> 00:59:22,176 Goodnight. Goodnight. 838 00:59:27,376 --> 00:59:28,936 Where are we going? 839 00:59:44,655 --> 00:59:46,655 We're going to the Pentagon? 840 00:59:54,256 --> 00:59:55,656 ID, please. 841 00:59:58,256 --> 01:00:00,176 Sir. 842 01:00:25,815 --> 01:00:28,375 Thank you, sergeant. Stand by outside. 843 01:00:28,376 --> 01:00:32,656 Prof, why don't you grab a seat down here? 844 01:00:33,896 --> 01:00:34,936 Right there. 845 01:00:41,215 --> 01:00:44,894 NASA. The agency of the United States Government 846 01:00:44,895 --> 01:00:47,813 responsible for the nation's civilian space programme 847 01:00:47,814 --> 01:00:50,095 and for aeronautics and aerospace research. 848 01:00:50,096 --> 01:00:54,294 Note the word "civilian" in there. 849 01:00:54,295 --> 01:00:58,013 The project cost in US dollars of running the space programme... 850 01:00:58,014 --> 01:00:59,575 The actual cost, I get it. 851 01:00:59,576 --> 01:01:04,134 And knowing this is unsustainable, NASA needs to prove itself, 852 01:01:04,135 --> 01:01:05,612 needs to bolster its purpose, 853 01:01:05,613 --> 01:01:09,052 over and above civilian scientific research and discovery, OK. 854 01:01:09,053 --> 01:01:10,574 So park that for a moment. 855 01:01:12,135 --> 01:01:16,014 The Air Force, meanwhile, wants to upgrade Titan. 856 01:01:16,015 --> 01:01:20,415 An efficient fleet of unmanned rockets to deploy spy satellites into space. 857 01:01:20,416 --> 01:01:22,014 Paranoia. OK. 858 01:01:22,015 --> 01:01:25,333 Whatever you civilians are told, we are still deep in the Cold War. 859 01:01:25,334 --> 01:01:27,295 What's it got to do with NASA? 860 01:01:27,296 --> 01:01:29,894 NASA approaches Congress with a deal. 861 01:01:29,895 --> 01:01:31,733 That seems to make great economic sense, 862 01:01:31,734 --> 01:01:35,014 the government can stop funding Titan and instead divert 863 01:01:35,015 --> 01:01:39,853 the money to NASA, and the Shuttle becomes sole access into space. 864 01:01:39,854 --> 01:01:43,174 NASA knocks out the Air Force and gets a funding boost. 865 01:01:43,175 --> 01:01:44,494 Exactly. Yeah. 866 01:01:45,694 --> 01:01:48,454 And the Shuttle secures its raison d'etre. 867 01:01:48,455 --> 01:01:50,573 Carrying spy satellites? 868 01:01:50,574 --> 01:01:52,974 And NASA convinced Congress 869 01:01:52,975 --> 01:01:58,694 that by 1986 they'd be able to launch twice a month, every month, 870 01:01:58,695 --> 01:02:01,134 and on each of these flights, 871 01:02:01,135 --> 01:02:04,694 payload will be made available to the Department of Defense. 872 01:02:08,654 --> 01:02:10,773 Titan was my project. 873 01:02:10,774 --> 01:02:14,093 But NASA reneges on its obligation 874 01:02:14,094 --> 01:02:18,014 and instead of giving DoD priority, they started taking Senators 875 01:02:18,015 --> 01:02:22,773 up there, in... just PR stunt after PR stunt. 876 01:02:22,774 --> 01:02:25,052 And then, launches start getting cancelled. 877 01:02:25,053 --> 01:02:26,772 The press is beginning to notice... 878 01:02:26,773 --> 01:02:28,252 Congress is getting jumpy. 879 01:02:28,253 --> 01:02:31,252 Yeah, yeah, and the administration is asking questions. 880 01:02:31,253 --> 01:02:35,092 And then last December, the launch is delayed six times, 881 01:02:35,093 --> 01:02:38,012 and remember NASA had promised Congress launch at any time, 882 01:02:38,013 --> 01:02:41,174 under any conditions, and then January 28th... 883 01:02:43,974 --> 01:02:46,854 January 28th launch, it's cold... 884 01:02:48,814 --> 01:02:50,574 It's very cold... 885 01:02:51,854 --> 01:02:54,134 ...and NASA feels under extreme pressure. 886 01:02:56,534 --> 01:02:57,774 And took the risk. 887 01:02:59,214 --> 01:03:00,534 They took the risk. 888 01:03:03,773 --> 01:03:05,613 Why did you tell me all this? 889 01:03:07,613 --> 01:03:10,052 Do you wish you didn't know? 890 01:03:10,053 --> 01:03:13,574 Downstairs, you made me sign the classified information thing. 891 01:03:13,575 --> 01:03:14,774 That's right. 892 01:03:16,294 --> 01:03:19,653 So what's going on, Kutyna? 893 01:03:19,654 --> 01:03:21,452 I mean, you got me trapped, 894 01:03:21,453 --> 01:03:23,174 I can't spill any of this crap. 895 01:03:24,734 --> 01:03:27,892 It would jeopardise national security, the Soviets would know. 896 01:03:27,893 --> 01:03:30,534 You guys can't launch a damned thing in cold weather. 897 01:03:34,093 --> 01:03:37,411 You've been playing me the whole time. From the beginning. 898 01:03:37,412 --> 01:03:39,413 That weird thing in the garage. 899 01:03:39,414 --> 01:03:44,572 With the carburettor, the carburettor and the cold, 900 01:03:44,573 --> 01:03:47,573 I was supposed to take a hint. What is this, some kind of game to you? 901 01:03:47,574 --> 01:03:49,852 No, but it was a nudge. 902 01:03:49,853 --> 01:03:52,892 I heard about the O-ring via an astronaut friend of mine 903 01:03:52,893 --> 01:03:55,852 who was tipped off, in secret, by a NASA engineer. 904 01:03:55,853 --> 01:03:58,372 This astronaut's career has to be protected. 905 01:03:58,373 --> 01:04:00,771 I had to let you get there on your own, Prof. 906 01:04:00,772 --> 01:04:04,331 Prof. Don't Prof me, you don't play me, you don't screw around with me. 907 01:04:04,332 --> 01:04:07,411 Listen to me and you'll understand why I'm telling you this. 908 01:04:07,412 --> 01:04:10,451 I can't do anything with it! That's the point! 909 01:04:10,452 --> 01:04:13,131 Don't ever tell me anything I can't open my mouth 910 01:04:13,132 --> 01:04:14,733 and blab to the whole world! 911 01:04:17,853 --> 01:04:20,892 I got to... I gotta get out of here. 912 01:04:20,893 --> 01:04:22,453 Listen... 913 01:04:26,253 --> 01:04:28,172 Richard... 914 01:04:28,173 --> 01:04:30,970 No-one plays me. What is this, check six? 915 01:04:30,971 --> 01:04:35,251 Remember, I told you that only you are independent on this commission. 916 01:04:35,252 --> 01:04:37,053 Do others on the commission... 917 01:04:39,093 --> 01:04:40,293 Do they know stuff? 918 01:04:40,294 --> 01:04:42,812 Everyone knows some, or all, 919 01:04:42,813 --> 01:04:45,411 but they're all bound. This is Washington. 920 01:04:45,412 --> 01:04:48,171 What can be acknowledged, how, by whom... 921 01:04:48,172 --> 01:04:49,531 You go drag me into this? 922 01:04:49,532 --> 01:04:53,851 No, it's absolutely not, you're coming at it completely differently. 923 01:04:53,852 --> 01:04:55,651 I told you, because I believe 924 01:04:55,652 --> 01:04:58,372 that you, and only you, can use what you have, 925 01:04:58,373 --> 01:05:02,051 you can use the science to cut through the bullshit, 926 01:05:02,052 --> 01:05:06,131 to ensure that the real reason for those deaths gets out. 927 01:05:06,132 --> 01:05:09,691 That it's made completely clear to the public. 928 01:05:09,692 --> 01:05:12,453 NASA's forced to admit it, and has to reform. 929 01:05:13,973 --> 01:05:15,893 I wish. 930 01:05:16,933 --> 01:05:20,171 Why can't people just say things the way they are? 931 01:05:20,172 --> 01:05:24,451 Cos it's politics, it's dirty, but you can, you can drive through that. 932 01:05:24,452 --> 01:05:26,771 You can... What's the, what's the... 933 01:05:26,772 --> 01:05:28,292 Can I have your arm, please? 934 01:05:29,972 --> 01:05:31,612 What's going on? 935 01:05:33,492 --> 01:05:35,332 No... 936 01:05:38,972 --> 01:05:41,412 Not now. Not yet. 937 01:05:47,292 --> 01:05:50,092 Let's get a medic. You get a medic right now. Yes, sir. 938 01:06:49,532 --> 01:06:51,571 80-yard touchdown! 939 01:06:51,572 --> 01:06:53,890 America is many things to many people. 940 01:06:53,891 --> 01:06:57,211 To a 17-year-old kid, it's the malt shop on the corner, 941 01:06:57,212 --> 01:07:01,210 to Grandpa, it's the front porch in the Blue Mountains. 942 01:07:01,211 --> 01:07:04,770 To the mother and her family, it's church... 943 01:07:04,771 --> 01:07:08,249 I'd Like to make it clear that all procedures were proper. 944 01:07:08,250 --> 01:07:12,290 This is the same process that was used in 24 successful shuttle launches 945 01:07:12,291 --> 01:07:14,290 as well as previous moon landings. 946 01:07:14,291 --> 01:07:15,850 I know that... Bunch of crap. 947 01:07:15,851 --> 01:07:18,170 ...based on the data up to January 27, 948 01:07:18,171 --> 01:07:21,730 right through the launch countdown until the lift-off, 949 01:07:21,731 --> 01:07:23,649 all those actions were proper. 950 01:07:23,650 --> 01:07:26,209 Do you believe you exercised good judgement on the evening 951 01:07:26,210 --> 01:07:29,929 before the launch, regarding the temperature? Absolutely. 952 01:07:29,930 --> 01:07:33,091 I thought I'd drop these to the cleaners in the morning. 953 01:07:35,811 --> 01:07:41,370 "Use Ivory Soap. 99.4% pure. " 954 01:07:41,371 --> 01:07:43,810 What? What did you say? 955 01:07:43,811 --> 01:07:46,490 I was just, that old Ivory Soap ad. 956 01:07:46,491 --> 01:07:51,050 "Use Ivory Soap, 99.4% pure. " 957 01:07:51,051 --> 01:07:52,650 Forget about the cleaners, 958 01:07:52,651 --> 01:07:55,291 I got, I got notes and stuff in the pockets, so... 959 01:07:55,292 --> 01:07:57,930 You sure? Yeah. 960 01:07:57,931 --> 01:08:00,729 Perhaps it's time to revisit the possibility 961 01:08:00,730 --> 01:08:04,689 that the Shuttle was a victim of an act of sabotage or terrorism. 962 01:08:04,690 --> 01:08:07,769 NASA will present at Wednesday's televised... Jeez! 963 01:08:07,770 --> 01:08:10,049 ...along with members from Morton Thiokol. 964 01:08:10,050 --> 01:08:11,971 Both parties will detail... 965 01:08:11,972 --> 01:08:15,570 Only 99.4%, you bastards! 966 01:08:15,571 --> 01:08:17,289 ...by the commission, is unclear 967 01:08:17,290 --> 01:08:20,891 whether we will ever have answers as to what caused this disaster... 968 01:08:20,892 --> 01:08:22,050 Gwen! 969 01:08:23,290 --> 01:08:25,449 Gweneth! 970 01:08:25,450 --> 01:08:26,930 What's the matter? 971 01:08:27,930 --> 01:08:30,849 Papa, what's wrong? What? 972 01:08:30,850 --> 01:08:32,651 I have to go back to Washington. 973 01:08:36,091 --> 01:08:37,889 Michelle, go back to bed, go on. 974 01:08:37,890 --> 01:08:39,811 Go on, back to bed, it's all right. 975 01:08:41,891 --> 01:08:43,850 You need to be here. 976 01:08:43,851 --> 01:08:45,491 You need to be taken care of. 977 01:08:45,492 --> 01:08:49,690 We can't come to Washington with you. She has school. 978 01:08:49,691 --> 01:08:51,730 She has no idea how seriously ill you are. 979 01:08:51,731 --> 01:08:52,850 I have to. 980 01:08:54,690 --> 01:08:56,089 People died. 981 01:08:56,090 --> 01:08:59,208 It will happen again. If I don't, what have the weeks been for? 982 01:08:59,209 --> 01:09:01,490 I mean, you're the one who persuaded me. 983 01:09:01,491 --> 01:09:03,449 And you said it yourself - 984 01:09:03,450 --> 01:09:05,289 let someone else do it. 985 01:09:05,290 --> 01:09:07,610 You can't, you don't have to carry on now. 986 01:09:09,530 --> 01:09:11,811 Nobody's got the right to ask that of you. 987 01:09:11,812 --> 01:09:13,890 I'm the one asking me. 988 01:09:13,891 --> 01:09:15,771 I'm the one asking. 989 01:09:23,130 --> 01:09:24,410 OK. 990 01:09:27,770 --> 01:09:29,249 OK. 991 01:09:29,250 --> 01:09:34,890 I just wanted to have you to myself for as long as possible. 992 01:09:42,450 --> 01:09:44,250 Honey, will you help me? 993 01:09:48,810 --> 01:09:51,248 I got to get it all down. 994 01:09:51,249 --> 01:09:53,370 My notes, everything I found out. 995 01:09:55,090 --> 01:09:56,690 Got to be one hell of a paper. 996 01:10:04,210 --> 01:10:10,049 The original tang and clevis seal design failed to anticipate 997 01:10:10,050 --> 01:10:15,249 the enormous pressure, caused by the burning propellant, 998 01:10:15,250 --> 01:10:18,808 would cause the walls to bow outward, 999 01:10:18,809 --> 01:10:21,968 a phenomenon known as joint rotation. 1000 01:10:21,969 --> 01:10:26,128 OK? Swell. My blood is freshly laundered. 1001 01:10:26,129 --> 01:10:29,689 Dick, you know the affects of the dialysis are only temporary. 1002 01:10:30,969 --> 01:10:32,490 Life is pretty temporary. 1003 01:10:51,049 --> 01:10:54,489 You're listening to drive time on WTBX with Steve O'Brian. 1004 01:10:57,969 --> 01:11:00,128 Power one-o-three on WTBX. 1005 01:11:00,129 --> 01:11:03,767 We are definitely addicted to our ten-in-a-row power play for all 1006 01:11:03,768 --> 01:11:07,609 you folks in Washington, coming up next, Miami Sound Machine... 1007 01:11:13,490 --> 01:11:17,487 Dr Feynman, can you comment on the progress of the commission? 1008 01:11:17,488 --> 01:11:20,169 What's your take on the sabotage theory? 1009 01:11:20,170 --> 01:11:22,369 I'm not at liberty to speak. 1010 01:11:32,089 --> 01:11:33,248 The commission? 1011 01:11:33,249 --> 01:11:34,409 Through there, sir. 1012 01:11:37,249 --> 01:11:39,329 I'm sorry, sir. You can't go in there. 1013 01:11:39,330 --> 01:11:40,608 Who says so? 1014 01:11:40,609 --> 01:11:42,768 Not without a tie, sir. 1015 01:11:42,769 --> 01:11:45,289 Give me strength. 1016 01:11:55,449 --> 01:11:58,009 I'm sure this is going to look a lot more dainty. 1017 01:12:01,129 --> 01:12:02,569 Good evening, gentlemen. 1018 01:12:05,329 --> 01:12:09,368 My findings, developed, processed, distilled, 1019 01:12:09,369 --> 01:12:11,727 I've saved you the trouble of running them off 1020 01:12:11,728 --> 01:12:13,729 in case the copy machine's broken. 1021 01:12:16,048 --> 01:12:18,888 Hey, Bill. Will you do the honours? Sure. 1022 01:12:18,889 --> 01:12:22,727 It's all here. Hi, Neil. Would you? 1023 01:12:22,728 --> 01:12:25,767 Design flaws in the boosters. 1024 01:12:25,768 --> 01:12:27,328 Management failure. 1025 01:12:29,288 --> 01:12:32,168 A cold day. You OK? 1026 01:12:32,169 --> 01:12:34,528 I had the flu, but now it's flown. 1027 01:12:34,529 --> 01:12:36,209 Why don't you just take this chair? 1028 01:12:46,648 --> 01:12:48,527 Thank you. 1029 01:12:48,528 --> 01:12:51,647 And thank you. 1030 01:12:51,648 --> 01:12:56,487 For your fine, patient, methodical work over the last weeks. 1031 01:12:56,488 --> 01:12:58,887 It's been a difficult period. 1032 01:12:58,888 --> 01:13:01,327 Especially for Dr Feynman. 1033 01:13:01,328 --> 01:13:03,527 Welcome back, Doctor. 1034 01:13:03,528 --> 01:13:07,126 And Doctor, I'm sure that we'll want to include some of your new material 1035 01:13:07,127 --> 01:13:08,208 in our final report. 1036 01:13:09,928 --> 01:13:12,928 Please remember this is a very important hearing. 1037 01:13:12,929 --> 01:13:15,487 We're expecting a lot of press. 1038 01:13:15,488 --> 01:13:18,848 And it will be televised, so please do be prompt. Thank you. 1039 01:13:31,568 --> 01:13:33,007 Prof. 1040 01:13:33,008 --> 01:13:36,686 It's happening again, Rogers is going to bury my work. 1041 01:13:36,687 --> 01:13:40,168 Yeah, and I just got cornered outside by the press. 1042 01:13:40,169 --> 01:13:41,647 Me too. 1043 01:13:41,648 --> 01:13:44,127 I think they're ready to go with "unproven". 1044 01:13:45,127 --> 01:13:47,447 Yep, or a sniper on the grassy knoll. 1045 01:13:50,727 --> 01:13:52,808 I eat a lot of pickled beets. 1046 01:13:54,088 --> 01:13:57,568 General, I haven't a damned clue what we're going to do. 1047 01:13:59,728 --> 01:14:03,768 Despite what you may think, I am pleased to see you back. 1048 01:14:05,968 --> 01:14:08,887 General. Chairman. 1049 01:14:08,888 --> 01:14:12,206 We have a major difficulty. 1050 01:14:12,207 --> 01:14:16,525 The people who best understand the Shuttle are the people giving evidence 1051 01:14:16,526 --> 01:14:19,807 but they have the most to lose by explaining it clearly. 1052 01:14:21,487 --> 01:14:23,966 The public is simply mystified. 1053 01:14:23,967 --> 01:14:28,527 Somehow, we need to penetrate the fog. 1054 01:14:30,327 --> 01:14:31,808 Welcome back. 1055 01:14:36,048 --> 01:14:38,768 We know what Marshall's strategy's going to be. 1056 01:14:38,769 --> 01:14:41,966 Smokescreen. Manipulate the science. 1057 01:14:41,967 --> 01:14:44,607 Yeah, they'll make it into a fuzz dazzle. 1058 01:14:46,287 --> 01:14:47,847 That kills me. 1059 01:15:05,407 --> 01:15:06,687 I have to go. 1060 01:15:08,367 --> 01:15:10,286 You OK? I am fine. 1061 01:15:14,047 --> 01:15:15,767 Neil. 1062 01:15:17,807 --> 01:15:19,407 I've been meaning to ask you. 1063 01:15:19,408 --> 01:15:20,726 Yes, Richard. 1064 01:15:20,727 --> 01:15:24,966 This is for a friend. An admirer. 1065 01:15:24,967 --> 01:15:27,127 Right. Of course. 1066 01:15:28,607 --> 01:15:30,366 Thanks so much, Neil. 1067 01:15:30,367 --> 01:15:32,726 Sorry, embarrassing but... 1068 01:15:32,727 --> 01:15:35,085 Anything for you, Richard. Goodnight. 1069 01:15:35,086 --> 01:15:36,407 Take care of yourself. 1070 01:15:37,807 --> 01:15:41,764 You asked me for something, now I'm going to ask you for something. 1071 01:15:41,765 --> 01:15:44,406 No, you picked me up a couple of weeks ago. 1072 01:15:47,646 --> 01:15:51,565 Morning. Morning. 1073 01:15:51,566 --> 01:15:53,167 There's my end of the deal. 1074 01:15:53,168 --> 01:15:54,366 All right. 1075 01:15:54,367 --> 01:15:56,446 Here's what I need from you. 1076 01:15:56,447 --> 01:15:58,086 A hardware store. 1077 01:15:58,087 --> 01:16:01,125 A hardware store. Why would a super important person want... 1078 01:16:01,126 --> 01:16:04,807 Do you know a hardware store that opens early? I know a place. 1079 01:16:14,326 --> 01:16:16,046 Come on. Get out of bed. 1080 01:16:25,166 --> 01:16:27,924 The astronauts' families will be seeking clarity 1081 01:16:27,925 --> 01:16:31,564 on what precisely caused the deaths of their loved ones. 1082 01:16:31,565 --> 01:16:34,845 NASA witnesses will be answering those questions... 1083 01:16:34,846 --> 01:16:38,286 Graham, make sure you have a section model of a SRB joint. 1084 01:16:39,526 --> 01:16:42,166 Are we late? We're good for time. 1085 01:16:47,646 --> 01:16:50,046 Hey. Morning, General. I guess this is it. 1086 01:16:51,086 --> 01:16:52,686 Good luck. 1087 01:17:24,606 --> 01:17:27,046 Would the witnesses please rise? 1088 01:17:31,126 --> 01:17:34,684 Do you swear that the testimony you will give before this commission 1089 01:17:34,685 --> 01:17:36,643 will be the truth, the whole truth 1090 01:17:36,644 --> 01:17:39,005 and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 1091 01:17:39,006 --> 01:17:40,325 I do. I do. 1092 01:17:45,165 --> 01:17:47,725 Mr Mulloy, did you have any apprehension 1093 01:17:47,726 --> 01:17:52,645 that a delay in launch would reflect badly on you or NASA Marshall? 1094 01:17:52,646 --> 01:17:54,485 No, not at all. 1095 01:17:54,486 --> 01:17:56,804 My decision to proceed with the launch as recommended 1096 01:17:56,805 --> 01:17:59,644 by the Thiokol official was based solely on the data 1097 01:17:59,645 --> 01:18:03,244 presented by Thiokol Engineering. Here comes the smoke. 1098 01:18:03,245 --> 01:18:05,363 This is shot right about August 19th, 1099 01:18:05,364 --> 01:18:09,403 and the thing of interest here is what we have seen in the O-rings. 1100 01:18:09,404 --> 01:18:12,445 See, the fact is, before Challenger, we had seen 1101 01:18:12,446 --> 01:18:16,165 no anomalous O-ring erosion for about a year. 1102 01:18:22,525 --> 01:18:26,005 Mr McDonald stated that he thought that what had been said was 1103 01:18:26,006 --> 01:18:30,964 very important - that the secondary O - ring was in a position to sealed 1104 01:18:30,965 --> 01:18:33,045 during the time of blow-by. 1105 01:18:33,046 --> 01:18:35,605 So you interpreted Mr McDonald's comment 1106 01:18:35,606 --> 01:18:39,124 as a statement in favour of proceeding to launch? 1107 01:18:39,125 --> 01:18:42,165 Yes, I certainly did because Mr McDonald was seated close by, 1108 01:18:42,166 --> 01:18:45,084 and it was clearly a supportive comment. 1109 01:18:45,085 --> 01:18:46,684 I have a question. 1110 01:18:46,685 --> 01:18:51,524 Can you remind me what NASA calculates the probability 1111 01:18:51,525 --> 01:18:54,325 of shuttle failure to be? 1112 01:18:55,885 --> 01:18:59,124 Failure meaning the loss of the vehicle, 1113 01:18:59,125 --> 01:19:01,565 and the deaths of the entire crew. 1114 01:19:02,764 --> 01:19:04,883 Dr Lovingood. 1115 01:19:04,884 --> 01:19:07,204 Certainly. That would be... 1116 01:19:09,404 --> 01:19:12,124 ...one in ten to the power of five. 1117 01:19:12,125 --> 01:19:13,245 Really? 1118 01:19:14,765 --> 01:19:16,404 Would you explain that? 1119 01:19:16,405 --> 01:19:20,964 Yes, that the probability of mission success is 100%. 1120 01:19:20,965 --> 01:19:22,244 Minus Epsilon. 1121 01:19:22,245 --> 01:19:25,244 Epsilon. That's a pretty fancy word. 1122 01:19:25,245 --> 01:19:29,045 Well, let's put all that you've said there into English. 1123 01:19:29,046 --> 01:19:34,563 So that's, that's one failure in every 100,000 flights. 1124 01:19:34,564 --> 01:19:38,322 So you claim that the Shuttle would fly every day for 300 years 1125 01:19:38,323 --> 01:19:40,762 before there would be a single failure. 1126 01:19:40,763 --> 01:19:43,924 That's crazy, I mean, how would you ever even test that? 1127 01:19:45,084 --> 01:19:48,242 NASA arrived at that figure because it was a manned flight. 1128 01:19:48,243 --> 01:19:49,924 Because there are people on board 1129 01:19:49,925 --> 01:19:54,564 but that's not a scientific calculation, that's... that's a wish. 1130 01:19:54,565 --> 01:19:55,884 And interesting. 1131 01:19:55,885 --> 01:19:59,925 But the figure is very different from that of NASA's own engineers. 1132 01:19:59,926 --> 01:20:02,203 Based on their direct experience, 1133 01:20:02,204 --> 01:20:05,564 and observation of many known component problems, 1134 01:20:05,565 --> 01:20:11,083 some of NASA's engineers calculate the probability of success 1135 01:20:11,084 --> 01:20:12,403 as only 99.4%. 1136 01:20:12,404 --> 01:20:18,364 In other words, that's roughly one flight in every 200 will fail. 1137 01:20:25,444 --> 01:20:27,404 Rogers, time out. 1138 01:20:28,644 --> 01:20:31,884 I think this would be an appropriate time to take a break. 1139 01:20:40,364 --> 01:20:41,843 One in 200! 1140 01:20:41,844 --> 01:20:45,483 Wow. That's not what the astronauts were aware of. 1141 01:20:45,484 --> 01:20:47,722 Potential disaster every three and half years. 1142 01:20:47,723 --> 01:20:49,964 It won't convince anybody, there's no proof, 1143 01:20:49,965 --> 01:20:52,883 people don't get probability, it's math. 1144 01:20:52,884 --> 01:20:54,164 But maybe... 1145 01:21:38,683 --> 01:21:40,881 The segment joint test we did, the development 1146 01:21:40,882 --> 01:21:45,123 and qualification motor test we did, as a basis for understanding 1147 01:21:45,124 --> 01:21:48,362 what we could expect to happen on the joints. 1148 01:21:48,363 --> 01:21:50,282 Mr Hardy. Certainly. 1149 01:21:50,283 --> 01:21:55,683 As we see, the temperature at which the O-rings would lose their integrity 1150 01:21:55,684 --> 01:21:58,802 would be in the minus 40 to 50 degree range. 1151 01:21:58,803 --> 01:22:00,963 Minus 40 to 50 degrees. 1152 01:22:02,723 --> 01:22:04,522 Fahrenheit? Sir. 1153 01:22:04,523 --> 01:22:07,002 So they'd maintain their integrity 1154 01:22:07,003 --> 01:22:10,443 down to 80 degrees below freezing? That is correct. 1155 01:22:14,043 --> 01:22:16,763 Mr Rogers? Oh, yes. Thank you. 1156 01:22:22,003 --> 01:22:23,641 These O-rings... 1157 01:22:24,247 --> 01:22:29,458 are supposed to expand to make a seal, is that correct? Yes, sir. 1158 01:22:30,642 --> 01:22:32,962 So, for the people to understand, 1159 01:22:32,963 --> 01:22:37,722 what if we take the O-rings out? 1160 01:22:37,723 --> 01:22:39,602 Not have them. 1161 01:22:39,603 --> 01:22:42,923 Well, then hot gas would expand through the joint. 1162 01:22:42,924 --> 01:22:48,240 For the seal to work correctly, the O-ring has to be made of rubber, 1163 01:22:49,363 --> 01:22:54,443 not something like lead, which when you... when you squash it, it stays? 1164 01:22:55,882 --> 01:22:57,201 Yes, sir. 1165 01:22:57,202 --> 01:23:02,841 Now if the O-ring weren't resilient for a second or two, 1166 01:23:02,842 --> 01:23:06,200 that would be enough for a very dangerous situation 1167 01:23:06,201 --> 01:23:08,842 and that could likely occur at low temperatures. 1168 01:23:08,843 --> 01:23:11,561 No, as Mr Hardy has shown, 1169 01:23:11,562 --> 01:23:16,602 they are effective down to minus 40 to 50 degrees. 1170 01:23:16,603 --> 01:23:20,362 Well, then I just have one comment for the gentlemen, 1171 01:23:20,363 --> 01:23:24,481 that I have always believed that any scientific concept 1172 01:23:24,482 --> 01:23:27,122 can be demonstrated to ordinary people, 1173 01:23:27,123 --> 01:23:32,041 people with no specialist knowledge or even much scientific education. 1174 01:23:32,042 --> 01:23:35,642 Co-pilot to pilot, not yet, just wait. What? 1175 01:23:36,922 --> 01:23:38,681 All right. OK, go. 1176 01:23:39,132 --> 01:23:43,514 See. I took some of... of this... 1177 01:23:44,962 --> 01:23:48,402 stuff from your seal. 1178 01:23:50,562 --> 01:23:55,402 And I put it in nothing more than ice water. 1179 01:23:58,362 --> 01:24:00,762 And I discover... 1180 01:24:04,722 --> 01:24:07,042 ...that if you put it under pressure... 1181 01:24:08,209 --> 01:24:10,406 ...for a while, 1182 01:24:10,882 --> 01:24:14,479 and then undo it... 1183 01:24:20,682 --> 01:24:22,282 ...it doesn't stretch back. 1184 01:24:23,521 --> 01:24:27,320 It stops. At the same dimension. 1185 01:24:27,321 --> 01:24:31,160 In other words, for a second or two, at least, 1186 01:24:31,161 --> 01:24:33,841 and more seconds than that, 1187 01:24:33,842 --> 01:24:37,681 there is no resilience in this particular material 1188 01:24:37,682 --> 01:24:41,201 at the temperature of 32 degrees Fahrenheit, 1189 01:24:41,202 --> 01:24:43,882 the temperature of a cold soda. 1190 01:24:46,162 --> 01:24:49,282 I think that has some significance for our problem. 1191 01:25:09,761 --> 01:25:12,800 Whatever the eventual Commission Report, I will be writing 1192 01:25:12,801 --> 01:25:16,640 up my own independent appendix with all my findings, all the design, 1193 01:25:16,641 --> 01:25:19,280 the engineering and the management problems, 1194 01:25:19,281 --> 01:25:22,041 which I will be handing to the President myself. 1195 01:25:23,721 --> 01:25:27,880 How much did NASA know about the effect of cold, Dr Feynman? 1196 01:25:27,881 --> 01:25:29,481 Look. Ask him. 1197 01:25:31,721 --> 01:25:34,560 Let us make recommendations 1198 01:25:34,561 --> 01:25:37,400 to ensure that NASA officials 1199 01:25:37,401 --> 01:25:39,481 deal in a world of reality. 1200 01:25:41,201 --> 01:25:44,881 Understanding technological weakness and imperfections 1201 01:25:44,882 --> 01:25:48,521 well enough to be actively trying to eliminate them. 1202 01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:54,400 NASA owes it to the citizens from whom it asks support 1203 01:25:54,401 --> 01:25:57,160 to be frank, honest and informative. 1204 01:25:57,161 --> 01:25:59,400 For a successful technology, 1205 01:25:59,401 --> 01:26:03,480 reality must take precedence over public relations, 1206 01:26:03,481 --> 01:26:05,681 for nature cannot be fooled. 1207 01:26:08,081 --> 01:26:10,521 Dr Keel, please. 1208 01:26:13,241 --> 01:26:17,681 And Mr President, this appendix has been prepared by Professor Feynman. 1209 01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,360 And by the way, I think I've figured out who was your source. 1210 01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,840 You said, "This astronaut, this astronaut. " 1211 01:26:33,841 --> 01:26:36,041 If it was a guy, you would have said "he. " 1212 01:26:38,401 --> 01:26:41,721 It's OK. I can keep shtoom. 1213 01:26:46,601 --> 01:26:50,399 If you ever fancy a ride in that old Buick... 1214 01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,360 Yeah. If the weather's warm. 1215 01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:55,720 It would have to happen pretty soon. 1216 01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:02,399 I'm sorry this is taking your time. 1217 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,199 I'm not sorry. 1218 01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,638 I would have been tremendously sorry if we'd lost 1219 01:27:06,639 --> 01:27:07,880 but as it is, it was... 1220 01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:10,480 Not a good use of science. 1221 01:27:10,481 --> 01:27:14,000 It's a good use of science. 1222 01:27:14,001 --> 01:27:15,041 I'm OK. 1223 01:27:16,121 --> 01:27:18,199 I'm OK with it. 1224 01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,959 I guess there is a kind of afterlife. 1225 01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:25,280 The few bits and pieces that we do might get remembered. 1226 01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:28,760 General... 1227 01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:32,800 ...fix your hair. 90838

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