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All right, so let's see.
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Y'all can still hear me, right?
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Y'all can still hear me?
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All right.
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If you are seeing this,
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then obviously the state
of Texas has murdered me.
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I'm sorry that y'all had to go through that.
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I just wanna say thank you
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for being there for me all these years.
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Thank you for everything, uh...
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It's been... it's been rough,
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but it's been good having y'all with me.
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All y'all that stuck with me.
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And once again, I'm sorry
I had to go through this, but
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my pain is over.
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My suffering is over.
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All of y'all that know me,
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y'all know I made
the most changes I could.
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I bettered myself as much as I could,
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and hopefully that's enough.
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I love you.
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โช โช
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[distant sirens wailing]
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[indistinct police radio chatter]
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REPORTER: FBI and law
enforcement across the country
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on the lookout for this man.
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REPORTER 2: A massive manhunt
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with a coast guard chopper is underway.
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[helicopter whirring]
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REPORTER 3: Ramirez went on
the run for nearly four years
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before he was captured,
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tried, convicted, and sentenced to death.
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You have taken a life.
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Yours is now on the line.
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- How are you today?
- Good. How are you going?
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- Sure, please.
- [register dings]
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Thank you. Have a good night.
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I was a happy kid.
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I was a very happy kid. I was very goofy.
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A goofball, you'd say.
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I feel like the older I get,
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the more I start to look like him.
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You know? It's a striking resemblance.
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I was 14.
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I remember waking up
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to police sirens and lights.
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So it was confusing.
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I was like, "What's going on?
This is not normal."
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I remember hearing my mother say.
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[in Spanish]
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Everything was just going
really slow in slow motion.
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I remember sneaking out of the house
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and seeing his body on the ground.
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I didn't really know that that was him.
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What gave it away was the hat.
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This hat is just...
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When I was in the courtroom
and the trial
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and the crime scene photos came up.
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I remember having to
get out of the courtroom
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and run to the restroom to vomit.
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'Cause I thought I could handle it.
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I stare at this picture a lot,
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Hoping that it's someone else.
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But it never will be anybody else.
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John Henry Ramirez
viciously murdered my father.
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He should pay for what he did.
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[birds squawking]
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WOMAN: I believe John has been
in God's hands
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from the very beginning.
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He's had three saves of execution,
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and God has just worked things out.
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We're going to sit in here.
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When John was in jail,
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he asked for the chaplain.
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Chaplain was a member of my church,
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and I had been teaching Bible
study in the women's jail.
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So the chaplain asked me,
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"Would you be willing
to go see John Henry?"
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And I thought to myself,
"What am I going to say?"
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You know, this man
stabbed somebody 29 times.
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What am I gonna say to him?
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I don't know what to say.
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And so I said, "Lord, you just take over.
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You tell me, you take over
the conversation."
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And he was so easy to talk to.
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I've gone every single month since 2011,
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except two times
when I had knee surgery.
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One month John asked me,
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"Since all of my family
has abandoned me,
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"and you've always been there for me,
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would you be my godmother?"
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And I said, "Yes."
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I was always in support
of the death penalty,
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but it took me getting
to know him as a human being.
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He is just not that person he was then.
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He is not that person he was.
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I have a whole stack of his poetry.
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This one is, "Where did I go wrong?"
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Where did I go wrong? I said.
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Where did I go wrong in this life I lived
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where I take that wrong turn
to end up like this?
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I used to get in trouble
time and time again,
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but not to the extent
that my life would end.
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Now these sinful ways
I'm trying to leave in the past
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even though I feel the present
hitting me too fast.
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And now I realize
you gonna reap what you sow.
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So at the end of my days
as the chemicals flow,
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as my life slips away
and my body turns cold
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there's only one thing
that I feel you should know
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I made the best of what was left
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and I let my love show.
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But no matter what
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there's still one thing that I'll never know
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and that's where did I go wrong,
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go wrong, go wrong?
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I said, "Where did I go so wrong?"
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โช โช
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[clock ticking]
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I've been here for 14 years,
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and so I've had four official dates.
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You know what I mean?
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And this is the only date
that I'm not actually fighting.
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Execution it's now for me.
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It's a way for me to finally
leave this place,
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you know what I mean?
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It's not a good way.
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It's horrendous and heinous,
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you know, but...
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It's an out. I can be done.
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I can stop hurting all the time.
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I'll never be able to make
amends for taking a life.
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And I don't expect to ever go free.
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Because I'm a murderer.
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Cause, like, no matter what I do,
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What does it mean?
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I'll never overcome it.
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GONZALEZ: I didn't know a lot
about the death penalty.
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Texas leads the kill count
with, like, 522 executions.
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We should all know that
if we are imposing
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these things on our community.
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As the DA, we're in charge
of things like life or death.
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And that's heavy.
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Looking at these photos of
all the evidence that they took,
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and it's really hard to make out,
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but it seems to appear
to be a lot of blood.
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A lot of blood from a violent death.
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And that's something that nobody
should ever have to experience.
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This the inventory
of everything that was in
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Mr. Castro's vehicle you see here.
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He spent a lot of time in his... his van,
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Fishing poles...
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You know, gonna go fishing or had been.
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Part of me would rather have
not wanted to see any of this.
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Because there's no way you could
look at photos
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where it says "In memory of a kind man,"
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and not hit an emotional place
where you realize
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that that shouldn't
have happened to him.
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Then you start to learn more about
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John Henry and all the things
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that may have happened to him
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to put him to that spot.
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It seems like even before he went to trial
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that he had this thought
that he wanted just to die.
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Because he spoke with an individual
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who does evaluations
for mental health issues.
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And he said that Mr. Ramirez,
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you know, wanted the death penalty.
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My feeling would be that he was young
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and he thought that that would be
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the most honorable thing
that he could do at that time
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to show maybe he was sorry
for what he did, right?
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"Yo, I killed someone, you can kill me."
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RAMIREZ: I hate playing that
boo-hoo story type of aspect.
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People be like, "You know, you
had such a terrible childhood."
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There's a whole bunch
of people that grew up
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in that type of lifestyle
that aren't murderers.
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So why didn't they end up
like I ended up?
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Because we each have our own free will.
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The main source of what shaped me
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is really my relationship with my mother.
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My mother is very abusive,
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physically, emotionally, verbally.
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Child Protective Services
took me away from her
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when I was young.
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'Cause she beat me
with a vacuum cleaner
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and split my head open.
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[camera clicks]
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In the type of environment
I grew up with,
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violence is glorified.
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My uncle, he was in the gang life.
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He was the one that introduced
me to that type of lifestyle.
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But you see, everyone goes to prison
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or it gets hooked on dope.
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I joined the military
straight out of high school.
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I actually loved it, man, it was awesome.
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The pay, the base is great,
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you know, everybody loves a serviceman.
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And I was first class in everything.
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But I got discharged for
fighting one of my superiors.
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[slide clicks]
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Immediately jumped right back
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into my old lifestyle.
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Doing drugs
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committing crimes left and right.
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Basically being an ignorant,
violent person.
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To me it was just a fight.
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And you know, when it got to a point
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where I pulled out a knife, stabbing him.
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He had 29 wounds.
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19 of them were fatal in itself.
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The other ten were
defensive wounds where
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he kept trying to grab the knife.
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When I stabbed him
in the throat and I saw that,
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I just stood there, snapped me out of it,
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and I realized he was gone.
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I realized I went too far,
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and it freaked me out so bad that I fled.
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What animals and people are
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to just kill him like that for a $1.25.
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I just... I just wish they'd
really do something with him.
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I always wanted to make sure that
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if no one else cared, I cared.
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I wrote a letter
to "America's Most Wanted."
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They posted a picture.
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That was the moment where
I really paid attention
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to who the killer was.
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REPORTER:
Cops in Corpus Christi, Texas,
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say John Henry Ramirez,
stabbed a man to death
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during a botched robbery.
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Ramirez is a former Marine
and has this tattoo...
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CASTRO: And that went on
for several years
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when I was younger, that
he's never gonna be found.
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Until one day, I got a call,
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and the police chief was like,
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"We've captured John Henry Ramirez."
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And then I was like, "Oh."
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And then I saw him in the courtroom.
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I couldn't believe
they actually did find him.
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And I just had all the anger
and hate in the world.
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I wanted to just beat
the living hell out of him.
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You have taken a life.
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Yours is now on the line.
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Somebody kills your father,
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you're gonna just forgive, and that's it?
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Justice needs to be served.
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I tried the first couple of dates
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to set up a meeting with them,
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and I've just never been able to do it.
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I know I'm never asking for forgiveness.
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'Cause, you know, I don't
think I could forgive somebody
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if they murdered one of my loved ones.
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But I would try to get my point across
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that I understand what I did.
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Understand what I did.
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And when I did it, I did it carelessly.
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Just generally as a person,
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I was just a bad person, you know?
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And when I went to Mexico on the run,
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I had a lot of time to think.
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[thunder rumbling]
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โช โช
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I gained a whole new family.
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Had a son.
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It just changed my
whole perspective on life.
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His name's Israel, but we call him Izzy.
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I never had my dad in my life.
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So when I had Izzy, I always said,
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"I'm gonna be a
better father than my dad."
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And then I ended up being
so much worse.
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He's 16 years old now.
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He's a real square kid,
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and I'm so grateful for that.
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One of the courses
in the faith-based section,
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you have to write a letter to your victim.
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And when I got to the end, I was like,
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"I want you to know
you made me a better person."
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"I never meant to kill you,
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"but because that happened,
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"it's made me a better person
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because it's made some
vast changes in who I am."
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You know? And it's a
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it's a crappy way to say it,
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Abut it's the truth.
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[sniffles]
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All right, guys, um,
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good afternoon from the DA's Office.
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I'm gonna wait just a few seconds to see
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if anybody actually
gets on Facebook Live.
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Maybe we'll have a lot
of people, maybe we won't.
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But I wanted to discuss today
or inform the community
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of what's kind of been going
on here at the office.
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For quite some time I've
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I have not agreed with the death penalty.
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And not only will I not
be seeking the death penalty,
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I will not also be asking
or setting dates of execution.
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So my heart goes out
to the Castro family.
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There are no real winners in this case,
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but I feel that in the interest
of justice, that our office.
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Shouldn't be involved
in murdering Texas citizens.
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I got with Mr. Ramirez's
attorney, Seth Kretzer,
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and I joined him in a motion
letting the court know
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why we felt the date of
execution should be withdrawn.
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What I'm hoping is
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we'll get some direction
from a higher court,
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and they'll say that I have all the authority
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to withdraw that date of execution.
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REPORTER: The proof is in
the motion Gonzalez filed today.
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He's trying to get Ramirez's
execution date withdrawn.
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GONZALEZ: I have, for a while now,
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said that I don't believe
in the death penalty.
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My office is not going to seek
the death penalty anymore.
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REPORTER: Withdrawing
or keeping the execution date
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is in the hands of the judge
from Ramirez's trial.
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CASTRO: You can't get a real
moment of time to heal properly.
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Due process was done.
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Now we're changing our moral judgment.
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For us, the victims.
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We thought it was gonna end
with justice, right?
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And now, ultimately, we're looking at
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possibly no execution at all.
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[echoing] You have taken a life.
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Yours is now on the line.
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TRUJILLO: Psalms 30:9 says,
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"What will you gain if I die?
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"If I sink into the grave?
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"Can any dust praise you?
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Can it tell of your faithfulness?"
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I became the godmother of death
row inmate John Henry Ramirez,
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number 999-9544,
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after he was abandoned by his family.
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Last Friday, I spoke with
the director of chaplaincy for
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all of the Texas Department
of Criminal justice.
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The chaplain told me
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that if John can get life without parole,
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this would give him the opportunity
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to spend the rest of his life
as a field minister,
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sharing the word of
Jesus Christ to inmates
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in the prison system,
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wherever he is asked to serve.
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I am asking you, Governor Abbott,
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to give John Henry Ramirez
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a commutation of his sentence
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from death to life without parole.
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So would you be willing to sign it?
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- Sure.
- I know you would.
347
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Come on and sign it right here.
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Just on the bottom, sign your name.
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This Wednesday is the date
that he is set to be executed.
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So I'm driving to Brownsville today
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to pick up Izzy, John's son.
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We'll be driving to... um, to Livingston,
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and we won't hear until Tuesday
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or whenever the Lord tells the governor
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what He wants him to do
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and pray that the governor listens.
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GONZALEZ: When I first got into office,
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I didn't know a lot of what was right.
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You have to make decisions.
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Texas is just a different place.
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I've gotten a lot of hate,
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And, you know, I get it,
it's understandable, right?
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Like, this man was sentenced to death.
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He killed somebody.
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I don't know that execution
is the right thing to do.
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And I don't know if execution
makes anything better.
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TRUJILLO: Lord, I'm talking
to you right now.
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This is me, your daughter, Jen,
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and I am asking you to put
your arms around this car.
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We know that you want us
to go pick up Izzy.
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And, Lord, you know
that I would never say no
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to Israel being there for his father.
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MAN ON RADIO: Just like you.
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Instead, just go worship
a perfect God today
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in a place filled with flawed people
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who need grace as much as you do.
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And me, I need it, too.
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โช โช
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REPORTER:
You're looking live right now.
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We'll take you live there, yeah.
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This is at the Walls Unit in Huntsville.
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That actually inside is
where the death chamber is,
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where John Henry Ramirez's execution
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is expected to be carried out
anytime after 6:00 p.m.
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[distant drums playing]
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REPORTER: On Monday, the Texas
Board of Pardons and Paroles
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unanimously denied
his request for clemency.
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His attorneys say they've run
out of legal options to appeal.
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ISRAEL: Hello?
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- WOMAN: Israel?
- ISRAEL: Yes.
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WOMAN: This is Denise
at the Huntsville unit.
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Would you like to speak
to John Ramirez?
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ISRAEL: Yes, ma'am.
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What's up?
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How are you?
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I'm holding up fine.
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00:24:57,851 --> 00:24:59,352
How are you holding up?
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- Yeah.
- You know?
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At the end of the line.
401
00:25:32,452 --> 00:25:34,922
Yeah, so
402
00:26:07,287 --> 00:26:08,588
[sniffles] Four
403
00:26:11,725 --> 00:26:12,725
4:01.
404
00:26:13,794 --> 00:26:15,262
Yeah.
405
00:26:17,464 --> 00:26:18,464
[sniffles]
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00:26:24,571 --> 00:26:26,640
I love you, thank you for everything.
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Bye.
408
00:26:30,744 --> 00:26:32,445
I love you, too.
409
00:26:42,856 --> 00:26:44,892
[sighs]
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00:26:48,028 --> 00:26:50,097
[distant drums playing]
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REPORTER: Good evening
and welcome
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to "Execution Watch"
on this October 5th.
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This is the show that airs
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every time the state of Texas
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puts a condemned prisoner to death.
416
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REPORTER: You tell us
about growing up.
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I mean, tell us about your family and all.
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RAMIREZ: I don't want to do
the same old song and dance.
419
00:27:53,393 --> 00:27:54,771
Yeah, I had a bad childhood,
420
00:27:54,795 --> 00:27:56,539
but a lot of people have bad childhoods
421
00:27:56,563 --> 00:27:58,241
and they don't end up
on death row, you know?
422
00:27:58,265 --> 00:28:00,376
You're a part of my dad...
my bad childhood.
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00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,845
REPORTER: Opening it up for you...
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00:28:01,869 --> 00:28:03,379
So that... would make myself
be put on death row?
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RAMIREZ: Typical childhood, you know?
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I'm one of the few people that actually
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has taken responsibility for the crime.
428
00:28:08,208 --> 00:28:09,853
You didn't take responsibility.
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00:28:09,877 --> 00:28:11,520
You left for five years.
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00:28:11,544 --> 00:28:12,889
RAMIREZ: And considering, like,
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a life sentence would be the other option.
432
00:28:14,481 --> 00:28:15,691
Now, that's a real punishment.
433
00:28:15,715 --> 00:28:16,993
They really wanted to punish this...
434
00:28:17,017 --> 00:28:18,862
Yeah, that's what you were going for.
435
00:28:18,886 --> 00:28:20,429
That's what you... he wanted this.
436
00:28:20,453 --> 00:28:21,497
This is such a...
437
00:28:21,521 --> 00:28:22,932
This is stupid.
438
00:28:22,956 --> 00:28:24,333
Regardless a year ago,
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he still felt what he would
probably feel today
440
00:28:26,426 --> 00:28:29,272
unless he had this huge
change of swift, of mindset.
441
00:28:29,296 --> 00:28:30,639
I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong here.
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00:28:30,663 --> 00:28:32,141
I don't know, but...
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00:28:32,165 --> 00:28:33,877
REPORTER: At this point,
let's go ahead and go back
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to Huntsville with Linda...
445
00:28:35,702 --> 00:28:37,146
CASTRO: Okay,
what are we doing here?
446
00:28:37,170 --> 00:28:38,982
REPORTER: Tell us what's happened.
447
00:28:39,006 --> 00:28:41,317
LINDA: The family just came across
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00:28:41,341 --> 00:28:43,719
and I guess they're getting in their car
449
00:28:43,743 --> 00:28:45,545
to go to the chapel now.
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REPORTER:
If you're just joining us now,
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John Ramirez is dead in Huntsville.
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Let's bring it back here into the studio
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with Larry Douglas,
Pat McCann and Mike Gillespie.
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That is...
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00:29:01,628 --> 00:29:03,940
So many things happened in this
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00:29:03,964 --> 00:29:06,375
I was told by
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by John's godmother, Jan Trujillo, that
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that religion really had
become his cornerstone.
459
00:29:14,975 --> 00:29:16,276
[turns off audio]
460
00:30:07,995 --> 00:30:10,697
John Henry Ramirez is dead.
461
00:30:14,534 --> 00:30:17,204
Do you know how weird that sounds?
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00:30:24,311 --> 00:30:26,289
[sniffles]
463
00:30:26,313 --> 00:30:28,648
But a life was lost today.
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00:30:31,952 --> 00:30:34,463
A life was taken.
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Too soon.
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00:30:36,323 --> 00:30:39,326
Just as it was when I was 14-years old.
467
00:30:40,994 --> 00:30:42,529
And I'm not celebrating.
468
00:30:43,730 --> 00:30:45,732
This isn't a moment to celebrate.
469
00:30:47,234 --> 00:30:49,402
[crying]
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00:30:52,973 --> 00:30:54,407
[crying]
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00:30:56,609 --> 00:30:58,178
[sniffles]
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00:31:02,715 --> 00:31:07,454
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PRIEST: Folks, we leave this place,
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00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:33,246
and those of us
with faith leave with hope,
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00:31:35,882 --> 00:31:37,250
[car door closes]
476
00:31:40,287 --> 00:31:41,664
Oh...
477
00:31:41,688 --> 00:31:44,224
[crying]
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00:31:49,362 --> 00:31:51,307
PRIEST: Celebrate life,
but to skip the grieving
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00:31:51,331 --> 00:31:53,566
means that, well, you never loved him.
480
00:31:57,270 --> 00:31:58,881
If you don't wanna grieve,
then don't love,
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00:31:58,905 --> 00:32:01,441
and then you'll never
feel the pain to grieve.
482
00:32:02,675 --> 00:32:04,744
It is not a life
I would recommend, though.
483
00:32:06,846 --> 00:32:08,157
RAMIREZ: All of y'all that know me,
484
00:32:08,181 --> 00:32:10,459
I know I made the most changes I could.
485
00:32:10,483 --> 00:32:12,895
I bettered myself as much as I could and
486
00:32:12,919 --> 00:32:13,987
hopefully that's enough.
487
00:32:16,189 --> 00:32:17,657
I love y'all.
488
00:32:28,368 --> 00:32:30,470
[birds chirping]
489
00:34:12,038 --> 00:34:13,540
Okay?
490
00:34:15,275 --> 00:34:16,652
It's not my job to judge him.
491
00:34:16,676 --> 00:34:19,788
That was God's... Is God's.
492
00:34:19,812 --> 00:34:24,460
I... I have to accept that
and live that way.
493
00:34:24,484 --> 00:34:29,298
So I will accept what,
you know, his apology.
494
00:34:29,322 --> 00:34:31,467
Take it with a grain of salt,
495
00:34:31,491 --> 00:34:33,826
but I will accept it and.
496
00:34:51,778 --> 00:34:53,422
I'm confused, you think
I can have a minute?
497
00:34:53,446 --> 00:34:54,490
Do you mind?
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00:34:54,514 --> 00:34:55,782
REPORTER: Yeah, of course.
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00:35:06,526 --> 00:35:08,395
[Castro exhales]
500
00:35:09,862 --> 00:35:11,398
Oh, God.
501
00:35:15,101 --> 00:35:18,113
[vomits]
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00:35:18,137 --> 00:35:19,539
[spits]
503
00:35:22,509 --> 00:35:23,910
[exhales]
504
00:35:27,614 --> 00:35:29,782
Okay, I'm sorry.
505
00:35:37,457 --> 00:35:39,659
I accept this apology.
506
00:35:41,961 --> 00:35:42,995
I accept it.
507
00:36:25,272 --> 00:36:29,942
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