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Ezekiel saw the wheel.
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This is the wheel he said he saw.
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These are unidentified flying objects
that people say they are seeing now.
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Are they proof that we are
being visited by civilizations
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from other stars? Or just what are they?
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The United States Air
Force began an investigation
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of this high strangeness
in a search for the truth.
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What you are about to see is
part of that 20-year search.
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That's it. That's it.
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I saw them, and all I
wanted to do was get to a phone.
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You believe me, don't you, Captain?
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You know, I've read about UFOs. I've
heard about them. I've never seen one myself.
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It's too bad you didn't
have film in that camera.
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Well, I thought I bought some
of the BX before I checked out.
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Pete?
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Lieutenant Stanley, Sergeant
Pete Cochran. Lieutenant? Pete,
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I want to crank out a priority
twist to right pat. Project Blue Book.
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Yes, sir.
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Lieutenant, now let's get all
of our ducks in a row. Now,
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you checked out of stead yesterday
evening? I just finished survival school.
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I was reporting to Colby Air Force Base
with a delay en route in Los Angeles.
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My wife lives there. She works
in admissions at UCLA. All right.
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Now, you want to fill this out,
name, rank, serial, the usual?
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I still can't get it out of my mind.
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That machine, whatever it was,
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One, two, three. Make a move.
Sergeant, you're not relaxed.
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I'm not.
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Now, pay attention. You count.
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One, two, three.
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Over and out.
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Heaven will have to wait,
Sergeant. Story of my life, Major.
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Wendy, this is Major Gatlin.
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He's my, uh... I work for Harry, Wendy,
and we have an emergency on our hands.
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Oh, Harry, you were just getting on to it.
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We're hitching a ride to Colby Air
Force Base. Please write Pat in 40 minutes.
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You've got such natural ability.
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I've never danced with anyone like you.
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Well, ain't nice of you, ma'am. Thank you.
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Well, I get a special rate
because I passed the entrance exam.
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It's $150 for eight lessons.
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You heard what she said.
I got natural ability.
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Oh, Mr. Keller, you
have such natural ability.
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I've never danced with anyone like you.
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Does Lieutenant Staless
201 tell us anything?
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With the Stanford ROTC program,
communications major. Graduated with honors,
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called to active duty upon graduation.
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Regular commission? No, reserve.
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Goes off active duty in July.
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Jet qualified.
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Plenty more, Daddy.
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Oh, no. Thanks, honey. That's enough.
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I keep telling my patients
to ease off on caffeine.
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I ought to follow my own advice.
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You know, when I was in the Air
Corps, old 930 hours meant just that.
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Well, I hope they get here.
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I'd like to get this thing cleared up.
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Project Blue Book.
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Any bets?
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Hello.
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I'm Major Gatlin. This is Sergeant Fitz,
Foreign Technology Division, Project Blue Book.
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We have an appointment
with Lieutenant Paul Staley.
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I'm Mrs. Cynthia
Staley. Won't you come in?
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Morning, Major. Good
morning. Sergeant. Lieutenant.
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Gentlemen, I'd like you
to meet my father-in-law,
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Dr. O'Neill. How are
you, sir? Major Gadlin.
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How are you, sir? Sergeant Fitz.
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So this is going to be
a real debriefing, huh?
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Lieutenant Staley's experience
yesterday seemed to warrant it, sir.
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I was a flight surgeon, 5th Air
Force, Korea, 1951. Is that so?
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Where the debrief became
sophisticated, Sergeant.
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Goodbye, Daddy.
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Good to see you. Don't get
started on the wild blue yonder now.
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Finished.
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Gentlemen, have a seat. Thank you.
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I trust there are no
objections while I sit with
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my son-in-law while you
explore this situation?
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Well, actually, sir, there are some
advantages to privacy in these matters.
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I anticipated you might say that, Major,
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so I phoned my old friend Lieutenant
General Thompson in San Francisco,
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and Tommy has suggested, informally of
course, that I be present, professionally.
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As a colonel in the reserve, you see,
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I've kept up with the
literature of flight medicine,
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the psychological aspects of
UFO reports, been a consultant.
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If you want to verify
this communication...
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I don't think we need any
verification on this, sir,
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and I certainly have no objections
as long as the lieutenant doesn't.
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I didn't realize you'd contacted
General Thompson about this, Colonel.
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I didn't want to bother you, Paul.
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Lieutenant, shall we get started?
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Right away? Okay.
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Lieutenant Staley, who have
you talked to about this episode
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outside of Captain
Selbridge at the weather station?
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Only my wife. I drove straight through as
soon as I'd reported to Captain Selbridge.
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Cynthia was asleep, but she got up
and made me something to eat, and well,
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we talked for hours about
that, about the survival
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school, but yes, I told her everything.
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You haven't talked to anyone else?
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No, sir, the communication from
ATIC was very explicit. No one else,
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not even Colonel O'Neill.
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Curious as I am, of course.
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When Paul phoned me to say he'd arrived
home, he did say he had had an encounter,
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but that was all. You can appreciate my
interest, personally and professionally.
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Let's turn the recorder on.
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Yes, sir.
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Recording, sir.
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Dr. O'Neill, Colonel Air Force Reserve,
Sergeant Harry Fitz, Major Jake Allen.
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Before we start, Major, what
is the disposition of these
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tapes as far as Project
Blue Book is concerned?
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Those tapes are for Air
Force files only, Colonel.
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Very good.
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Lieutenant...
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The Gold Bar Teletype stated you
checked out of stead immediately
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after your group had completed its
survival course. Is that correct?
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Yes, sir. I was in a hurry
to check out and get home.
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I don't know what the others did. I
figured there's no point in sticking around.
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I had a car. I figured I
could stop by the side of the
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road any time if I got
tired, so I backed my bags.
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Hey, come on, Paul. What's
the matter? Stick around.
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We're working up to a party here.
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Looks like you started already.
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48 days with you people in
the middle of nowhere is ample.
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I got my traveling orders as of now, and
this kid is traveling. Got my flight bag?
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Lieutenant Staley, Major Burnham strongly
recommends that all the men who graduated
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with him drink to their outstanding
record of less than 8% war shots.
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Sir, Lieutenant Staley kindly
thanks the Major for his recommendation.
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Salute.
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Salute.
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See y'all somewhere, you
guys. If I can survive this
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course and this bunch,
I can survive anything.
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Nice guy.
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And a bright guy.
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Why would he want to be a civilian?
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I knew it would be easier driving at
night in the desert, so I kept on going.
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But it finally caught up with me, I
guess, road hypnosis or just being tired.
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And with that, we bring a close
to our evening's broadcast. KKAC,
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signing off at 3 a.m.,
Mountain Standard Time.
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So, I got smart, pulled off the
side of the highway just for a while.
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ยถยถ
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I was stiff, of course, but I'd
had a good sleep considering.
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I just wanted to get somewhere to wash,
have breakfast. I was doing 55 or 60,
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I guess. Any other cars on the road?
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Last couple hours that
night, didn't see one car.
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Next morning, definitely not.
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I remember I was going around this big
curve when all of a sudden the engine quit.
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The radio went off, too. The
whole electrical system went dead.
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I knew I wasn't out of
gas. I coasted to a stop,
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and I was trying to get it started again.
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I was just getting out to look
under the hood when I saw them.
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It's funny. The first thing
I thought of, I said, Paul,
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you idiot, you're
dreaming. You're not awake yet.
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ยถยถ
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And the engine kicked right over.
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It was weird. I don't understand it.
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You gentlemen know the rest.
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There's nothing more I can tell you.
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We'd like you to try and draw or sketch
the machines you saw, if you would, sir.
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Gentlemen, I'm doing
surgery in an hour. Major,
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I appreciate your allowing me to sit in.
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I assure you I'll keep it
completely confidential.
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Paul, would you walk me to my car?
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All right, Major? Certainly, sir.
Sergeant? Sir, there's coffee in the kitchen.
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Help yourselves. Thank
you. Thank you very much.
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Real nice apartment. Sure is.
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How do you want yours?
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Black, thanks.
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Interesting.
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Mage, take a look at this.
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Paul, I hate to talk to you
like a father-in-law. Forget it.
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We both appreciate everything you've done.
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I know you're
considering leaving the Air Force,
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just as I strongly
recommend that you do not.
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Let's face it, this town is
full of unemployed communications
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majors who graduated with honors.
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But listen, this is a real opportunity.
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I suspect your report will be buried just
as these UFO investigations usually are.
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And I'm not ready to present my opinion
on your experience, at least not yet.
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But you're going to be the center of Air
Force attention for the next few weeks.
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First Lieutenant Paul Staley
will be a name everybody will know.
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Capitalize on it.
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Cooperate.
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Colonel, what happened
to me really happened.
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And I'm going to tell it like it is.
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Play your cards right.
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Use this.
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You'd be surprised, Paul,
how far it may take you.
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Who knows, maybe you'll find the Air
Force is a full-time career for you after all.
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I've got a good chance at a job in Denver.
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Have you accepted yet?
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No, sir.
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Don't.
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I have to let them know pretty soon.
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Maybe you owe Cynthia a little more
security than a civilian job could give her.
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Did you ever think about that, Paul?
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I know what you mean.
Neither of us want Cynthia
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to be working, and she won't have to.
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But look, first, I'm reporting what I
saw, no more and no less. And second,
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a great many people have seen
UFOs, and what good has it done them?
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Why do you suppose
they'd fly a major out here?
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Why clamp this lid of secrecy on you?
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Paul, I've been following UFOs
since it was called the Air Corps,
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and pilots call those funny
things out in space foo fighters.
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But you're something special,
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a qualified Air Force
pilot who claims to have
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established contact with UFOs on
the ground. Do you realize that?
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You're unique, Lieutenant.
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I'm transmitting all the sketches
Lieutenant Staley drew for us right now.
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And the interview
tape's being transcribed,
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and it'll be at
Wright-Patterson in the morning.
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All right, sir, we'll carry
through on our end, but why? Oh, I see.
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No, I haven't, but I'll be
talking to his wife later today.
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All right, sir.
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Goodbye, sir.
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That was right, Pat.
The base commander out of
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Colby is convening a
hearing board next week.
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Why?
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Lieutenant Paul Staley requested it.
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These sketches Staley made,
anything strike you wrong about them?
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Nothing that's wrong, like a
zillion others we've seen.
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How come the top view?
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You lost me, Major.
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Lieutenant Staley was specific. He
walked up close to within 50 yards, he said.
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Then they flew directly over his head.
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Staley didn't give us any view of
the undersides of the machines.
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No, sir, he didn't.
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How did he know what they
looked like from the top?
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Cynthia Staley,
please. Graduate admissions.
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Yes, I'll wait.
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Yes. Lieutenant Paul Staley,
please. I'm Lieutenant Staley. Personal
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and urgent, sir.
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Sign here, please.
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Thank you, sir.
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Oh, yes, sir. May I help
you? Uh, Mrs. Staley busy?
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Well, her door was closed when I came
in from duplicating. Let me buzz. Uh,
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there's a gentleman here to see
you. May I ask your name, please?
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Mr. Staley.
236
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Uh, Mr. Staley.
237
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Yes, ma'am.
238
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You can go right on in, sir. Thank you.
239
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Hi.
240
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I know I'm a bit early.
241
00:23:12,940 --> 00:23:20,329
I thought maybe we... I didn't know
you wanted to talk to Mrs. Staley, sir.
242
00:23:20,730 --> 00:23:22,829
Or even, Lieutenant. We didn't
know you asked for a hearing board.
243
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,410
I thought you did now. How? When
you didn't request it till today?
244
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After Sergeant Fitz and I left?
245
00:23:30,569 --> 00:23:32,380
Well, I'm sure you know
why I wanted the board.
246
00:23:33,319 --> 00:23:35,880
You gentlemen have
investigated a number of UFO sightings.
247
00:23:36,940 --> 00:23:37,299
We have?
248
00:23:38,539 --> 00:23:41,369
I'm sure you know how the majority of
people feel when they read about these things.
249
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They think anyone who reports seeing
a flying saucer is some kind of nut.
250
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First off, Lieutenant,
we're not the majority.
251
00:23:47,539 --> 00:23:50,339
And we do not believe that all
individuals who have sightings are oddballs.
252
00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:53,930
I don't want Cynthia to have
to answer the usual questions.
253
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Does your husband hallucinate?
Does he take drugs? Does he lie?
254
00:23:56,869 --> 00:23:59,450
You probably want to know if our
sex life is satisfactory, too.
255
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Lieutenant, you related an
extraordinary experience
256
00:24:03,299 --> 00:24:05,660
to Captain Selvidge over at Gold Bar.
257
00:24:06,460 --> 00:24:08,920
Now, we may never be able to
prove that you saw what you did.
258
00:24:09,539 --> 00:24:12,549
But we sure cannot prove you
didn't. You were there. We weren't.
259
00:24:13,049 --> 00:24:14,750
Now, we're gonna dig
into it and make sure that
260
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no one's trying to make a fool out of you.
261
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,359
Maybe it's gone beyond that
already. Maybe I already am.
262
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,660
We're early and we'll have to
wait at the bar for our table.
263
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I could use something tall and cool.
264
00:24:36,650 --> 00:24:37,470
We'll be there in time.
265
00:24:40,690 --> 00:24:42,960
That hearing board you
talked about in my office
266
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,970
this afternoon? What's that all about?
267
00:24:46,170 --> 00:24:49,289
I want the Air Force to understand
that I really saw those machines.
268
00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:52,069
And the hearing board makes it official?
269
00:24:53,410 --> 00:24:56,210
Only that I'll be on the record
more officially than I am now.
270
00:24:58,579 --> 00:25:00,660
This thing has really
gotten to you, hasn't it?
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You didn't see what I saw, Cynthia.
272
00:25:05,460 --> 00:25:08,470
I doubt if anyone will ever really
believe me, but I'm sure as hell gonna try.
273
00:25:09,380 --> 00:25:10,359
What if they don't?
274
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:11,779
You don't believe me, do you?
275
00:25:13,559 --> 00:25:15,609
Is it important to you that I believe you?
276
00:25:17,789 --> 00:25:19,450
It's always the way with
us, isn't it, Cynthia?
277
00:25:20,009 --> 00:25:22,170
Your father says it, it's fine with you.
278
00:25:22,690 --> 00:25:25,829
But if I have a problem, as
long as the two of you work
279
00:25:25,829 --> 00:25:27,619
it out to your
satisfaction, everything is okay.
280
00:25:29,180 --> 00:25:32,519
Why do we always have to
go through this, Paul? Why?
281
00:25:33,099 --> 00:25:35,619
I mean, it's no secret that
you've always resented Daddy.
282
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,849
That's not true. I have a
great deal of respect for him.
283
00:25:39,910 --> 00:25:42,369
I just wish he would let
us lead our own lives.
284
00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:43,730
I think he does.
285
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:45,029
I don't.
286
00:25:45,710 --> 00:25:49,410
Okay, what's next? You
pack up and move to a
287
00:25:49,410 --> 00:25:51,109
hotel again like you did three months ago?
288
00:25:52,089 --> 00:25:53,470
No, not this time, Cynthia.
289
00:25:55,470 --> 00:25:58,640
Look, let's not talk
about it anymore, okay?
290
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,960
Let's just be grateful that we've got some
291
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,720
extra time to spend
together tonight, okay?
292
00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:20,049
I saw those things.
Nothing will ever change that.
293
00:27:16,380 --> 00:27:18,880
Pretty sure this is it?
That's very close, yeah.
294
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,130
The way the road curves over
there and the hills they flew over,
295
00:27:23,130 --> 00:27:27,359
I think it may be a few yards
further down there, Major. All right.
296
00:27:32,819 --> 00:27:35,960
Did you mark anything or leave a pile of
rocks or anything to mark the sighting?
297
00:27:37,579 --> 00:27:41,180
Major, I've never been instructed on what
to do in case I ran into a UFO squadron.
298
00:27:42,029 --> 00:27:44,509
And I didn't take any pictures either.
I already told you that. I couldn't.
299
00:27:49,509 --> 00:27:50,789
There. They were sitting right there.
300
00:27:53,569 --> 00:27:56,890
And the indentation from the landing
gear should be right in this area.
301
00:27:58,099 --> 00:28:00,420
There were three to each,
equilateral triangles, total of 12.
302
00:28:02,730 --> 00:28:05,269
There's the highway. Here's where you
originally marked the landing site.
303
00:28:06,589 --> 00:28:08,650
You couldn't be off more than
a couple hundred yards, right?
304
00:28:09,509 --> 00:28:11,269
More or less. We'll correct that in red.
305
00:28:12,430 --> 00:28:14,269
Lieutenant, it took off
from over here. Then what?
306
00:28:14,609 --> 00:28:16,839
They hovered above the ground a few feet.
307
00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:21,359
I was right over there, and
then they lifted off to about
308
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,549
25 feet and went in
formation right over those hills.
309
00:28:25,710 --> 00:28:27,910
Right into the sun,
which would be 0630 or 0700.
310
00:28:29,049 --> 00:28:32,430
That's correct. What was the undercarriage
311
00:28:32,430 --> 00:28:34,799
configuration, sir,
since it flew over you?
312
00:28:35,529 --> 00:28:38,230
Well, the glare was so bright I
couldn't make out any detail.
313
00:28:38,930 --> 00:28:41,240
How did you know what the upper
surface looked like, the top section?
314
00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:43,519
I'm not too good at making
sketches. I didn't know.
315
00:28:43,619 --> 00:28:45,920
I tried to give you a general
impression, size and shape.
316
00:28:46,180 --> 00:28:48,210
Sir, I didn't see any
traces of landing gear marks.
317
00:28:49,289 --> 00:28:50,009
They were there.
318
00:28:50,890 --> 00:28:53,309
I saw them when the machines were
hovering and again when they lifted off.
319
00:28:55,650 --> 00:28:56,630
This is sandy country.
320
00:28:57,099 --> 00:28:58,640
It's possible when they took off,
321
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,700
their propulsion systems
might have covered the landing
322
00:29:00,700 --> 00:29:02,940
tracks over. No,
Sergeant, they were there.
323
00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:06,509
I know those things
kicked up a lot of sand,
324
00:29:06,509 --> 00:29:09,039
but I saw the marks after they took off.
325
00:29:09,940 --> 00:29:12,240
Wind, maybe. Sir? Well, it is sand.
326
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:15,140
Desert winds aren't uncommon.
Maybe the marks were drifted over.
327
00:29:15,849 --> 00:29:16,240
Filled in.
328
00:29:16,589 --> 00:29:20,890
Well, that must be it. It's got to be.
It's the only possible explanation, isn't it?
329
00:29:20,910 --> 00:29:29,410
Yeah, I know. No physical evidence.
330
00:29:30,220 --> 00:29:32,319
No fuel residue, no piece of hardware.
331
00:29:33,019 --> 00:29:33,319
Nothing.
332
00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:38,430
How am I ever going to prove this?
333
00:29:43,150 --> 00:29:44,019
What more can I tell you?
334
00:29:44,839 --> 00:29:48,140
He completed the course in excellent
physical condition, mentally alert.
335
00:29:48,619 --> 00:29:50,539
He's one of the best young
officers I've ever trained.
336
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,680
His 201 proves that, doesn't it, Major?
337
00:29:54,430 --> 00:29:55,490
I come up in November.
338
00:30:12,279 --> 00:30:13,369
What I was getting at is,
339
00:30:13,369 --> 00:30:15,900
could you accept the proposition that
this sighting of his might be a hoax?
340
00:30:16,339 --> 00:30:18,420
Well, I don't happen to
believe in UFOs myself.
341
00:30:19,269 --> 00:30:22,630
But if Paul Staley said he
saw some, I believe him.
342
00:30:24,109 --> 00:30:26,529
Just one more question,
sir, and this one's personal.
343
00:30:27,380 --> 00:30:29,599
Is this survival course
really as tough as we hear, sir?
344
00:30:29,859 --> 00:30:31,180
Even in the latrines, Sergeant.
345
00:30:39,079 --> 00:30:43,359
Psychological tests. Complete exposure of
your background file, which, as you know,
346
00:30:43,359 --> 00:30:45,569
is strictly your business
in the military complex.
347
00:30:46,970 --> 00:30:49,990
Yes, sir, I've
considered all that. All right.
348
00:30:50,430 --> 00:30:52,019
Here's the list of the
people on your hearing board.
349
00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:56,700
Any objections?
350
00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,819
It's possibly one name.
351
00:31:00,420 --> 00:31:02,769
Dr. O'Neill. Yes, sir.
He's my father-in-law.
352
00:31:03,269 --> 00:31:03,750
We know that.
353
00:31:05,589 --> 00:31:06,630
Well, do you consider that proper?
354
00:31:07,289 --> 00:31:07,789
You tell us.
355
00:31:09,529 --> 00:31:12,829
Well, if his presence will in any way
affect the outcome of the hearing, no, sir,
356
00:31:12,829 --> 00:31:13,859
I don't consider it proper.
357
00:31:15,109 --> 00:31:18,529
Well, we've never made use of Dr.
O'Neill's expertise here on this base,
358
00:31:18,529 --> 00:31:22,480
but his name came up in normal rotation,
and he comes to us highly recommended.
359
00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:28,849
But I repeat, if you have any
objections, we'll replace him. No, sir.
360
00:31:29,910 --> 00:31:30,970
If you have none, then I have none.
361
00:31:31,670 --> 00:31:32,630
Any other names on the list?
362
00:31:33,329 --> 00:31:34,470
No, sir, I don't know anybody else.
363
00:31:35,289 --> 00:31:38,579
Fine. The hearing will be convened
at 1400 hours on the 27th. Yes, sir.
364
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:48,970
You talk to him, and I'll handle
everything else. I don't like to promise anything,
365
00:31:48,970 --> 00:31:51,349
but I suspect that Paul
can make captain very soon.
366
00:31:52,130 --> 00:31:54,019
Maybe even be stationed
somewhere around here.
367
00:31:54,839 --> 00:31:55,980
You'd like that, wouldn't you, honey?
368
00:31:56,410 --> 00:31:57,210
Of course I would.
369
00:31:57,869 --> 00:31:58,829
But do you think Paul would?
370
00:31:59,369 --> 00:32:01,349
Well, if he wouldn't, he's
simply not using his head.
371
00:32:02,670 --> 00:32:05,190
Although there have been moments
recently when I've had my doubts.
372
00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:09,299
This UFO business, seeing
these things or thinking
373
00:32:09,299 --> 00:32:12,619
he saw them has become
an obsession with him.
374
00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:14,920
I'm really concerned, Daddy.
375
00:32:16,819 --> 00:32:19,210
Cynthia, your mother
never knew how to appreciate
376
00:32:19,210 --> 00:32:21,309
the good things that we finally acquired.
377
00:32:21,789 --> 00:32:24,069
But you do. I want so much for you.
378
00:32:24,809 --> 00:32:26,349
You're entitled. You deserve the best.
379
00:32:27,730 --> 00:32:30,549
And that very definitely
includes a sensible husband.
380
00:32:31,220 --> 00:32:33,910
With the means to give
you lifetime security,
381
00:32:33,910 --> 00:32:37,289
Paul could accomplish all that
with a well-planned military career.
382
00:32:38,789 --> 00:32:39,829
I love you, Daddy.
383
00:32:40,650 --> 00:32:41,650
You're so good to me.
384
00:32:41,670 --> 00:32:42,890
I love you, honey.
385
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,420
And I'm thankful you're not
trying to talk him out of the service.
386
00:32:47,579 --> 00:32:47,680
No.
387
00:32:48,859 --> 00:32:51,079
I think he's doing a pretty
good job of that himself.
388
00:32:51,579 --> 00:32:53,849
You let me handle it.
Handle what? Me again?
389
00:32:54,970 --> 00:32:56,369
I thought we had that out the other night.
390
00:32:57,109 --> 00:32:58,089
Adequately enough, I guess.
391
00:32:58,829 --> 00:33:01,349
What's new, Paul? I
thought you might tell me.
392
00:33:03,049 --> 00:33:04,230
I don't know that I understand that.
393
00:33:04,670 --> 00:33:05,369
The hearing board.
394
00:33:05,910 --> 00:33:06,950
Oh, that. Yes, that.
395
00:33:06,990 --> 00:33:07,269
Well, I...
396
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,700
I meant to tell you when the
notification came and just slipped my mind. Well,
397
00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:12,400
I didn't mean to push it.
398
00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:16,640
I'm sure you both know how important
the hearing is to me. To all of us, Paul.
399
00:33:17,869 --> 00:33:20,490
I wouldn't want to trace it
anything that smacked of dishonesty.
400
00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:22,970
Paul, you know Daddy better than that.
401
00:33:23,609 --> 00:33:23,970
I'm sorry.
402
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,799
Well, anyway, I have some good
news. I talked to Denver today,
403
00:33:27,799 --> 00:33:30,619
and I have that job at
KKAC as a news reporter
404
00:33:30,619 --> 00:33:33,690
if I can be there by
August the 1st, and I can.
405
00:33:34,410 --> 00:33:37,599
It's just about the time when you have to
extend your tour of active duty, isn't it?
406
00:33:38,099 --> 00:33:40,420
It was, but I already told
them thanks, but no thanks.
407
00:33:41,359 --> 00:33:43,039
I've done my seven years.
I want to be a civilian.
408
00:33:45,089 --> 00:33:46,049
You're making a mistake.
409
00:33:47,089 --> 00:33:47,809
Well, I don't think so.
410
00:33:49,029 --> 00:33:51,150
Cynthia will have me. I'd like to
spend more of my life with her.
411
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,160
I can't say I blame you for that.
412
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,539
Well, I'm glad we all agreed then.
413
00:33:57,750 --> 00:33:59,690
It's your life.
414
00:33:57,289 --> 00:33:57,730
Why not?
415
00:34:08,670 --> 00:34:10,949
I know we've almost concluded
this rather lengthy hearing,
416
00:34:10,949 --> 00:34:13,480
but I also know we've
been here for four hours,
417
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,510
and I wonder if a short
break might not be in order.
418
00:34:17,010 --> 00:34:19,099
Colonel, I believe my
evaluation is all that remains,
419
00:34:19,099 --> 00:34:20,719
and I assure you it'll be brief.
420
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,610
In fairness to Lieutenant Staley,
421
00:34:22,610 --> 00:34:25,820
who has certainly been subjected
to a great deal of personal strain,
422
00:34:25,820 --> 00:34:27,159
I feel we should continue.
423
00:34:28,070 --> 00:34:28,800
Just for a few minutes.
424
00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:31,119
Very well, Dr. O'Neill.
425
00:34:31,619 --> 00:34:35,230
The psychological profile
developed by Major Evelyn Lake
426
00:34:35,230 --> 00:34:39,300
unquestionably presents the lieutenant
as an intelligent, reasonable officer.
427
00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:44,079
His record is exemplary. He's just
completed one of the Air Force's
428
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:47,070
most difficult courses with its
known physical and mental demands.
429
00:34:47,730 --> 00:34:49,389
I refer to the survival course.
430
00:34:50,070 --> 00:34:53,090
In many ways, then,
Lieutenant Staley is not the
431
00:34:53,090 --> 00:34:55,429
typical individual who is
reported sighting UFOs,
432
00:34:55,429 --> 00:35:01,179
just as his encounter on the ground at
close range is far from typical. In fact,
433
00:35:01,179 --> 00:35:03,849
it is most certainly
unique in the many thousands
434
00:35:03,849 --> 00:35:05,630
of cases that have been investigated.
435
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:12,079
Let's begin with that survival school
course and his completing it on 18 May last.
436
00:35:12,380 --> 00:35:15,780
He had to be plagued with
complete physical and mental exhaustion,
437
00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:18,650
as everyone who completes
the course is. Nevertheless,
438
00:35:18,650 --> 00:35:23,250
Lieutenant Staley decided to drive
straight through, almost 600 miles.
439
00:35:25,170 --> 00:35:28,210
Strange decision, at best in
view of his fatigued condition.
440
00:35:30,030 --> 00:35:33,309
Perhaps that is precisely what
caused his temporary loss of memory.
441
00:35:33,849 --> 00:35:36,909
Example, in his
interview with Major Gatman,
442
00:35:36,909 --> 00:35:41,710
Lieutenant Staley declared he'd had
no drinks, no intoxicants, no alcohol.
443
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,449
Although Major Burnham
reported from the base,
444
00:35:45,449 --> 00:35:48,800
you'll find this on
teletype of 22 May last,
445
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,780
that everybody was
having a couple of drinks.
446
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,500
And Burnham actually gave at least
one to Lieutenant Staley personally.
447
00:35:56,519 --> 00:36:00,230
If the lieutenant forgot one
drink, perhaps he forgot two.
448
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:02,659
Or even three.
449
00:36:03,940 --> 00:36:04,800
So, completely exhausted,
450
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:09,280
Lieutenant Staley does not drive a
couple of hours and sleep in a motel. No,
451
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,530
he continues driving until he suddenly
finds himself running off the highway.
452
00:36:14,789 --> 00:36:16,710
A confused mental state, to say the least.
453
00:36:17,469 --> 00:36:18,110
And then, there they are.
454
00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:33,670
Flying saucers.
455
00:36:34,309 --> 00:36:38,320
This officer trained for three
years to recognize dials, gauges,
456
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,119
structural configurations
with better than 20-20 vision.
457
00:36:42,820 --> 00:36:46,800
And all he can recall are a
group of strange machines,
458
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,719
four of them octagonal
in configuration. Oh,
459
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,699
he did recall in some detail what the
top of those space machines looked like.
460
00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:59,260
It's his drawing number seven in AF 112,
although he admits he never saw the top.
461
00:37:00,710 --> 00:37:04,070
I think it interesting that his
descriptions are identical to the
462
00:37:04,070 --> 00:37:07,119
cliche descriptions in all of
the pattern flying saucer reports.
463
00:37:08,179 --> 00:37:10,630
Lieutenant Staley's
account is clearly fraught
464
00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:12,570
with inconsistencies. That he bought film.
465
00:37:13,369 --> 00:37:13,929
But forgot it.
466
00:37:14,449 --> 00:37:18,260
Trained observer, he made no effort
to definitely record his location.
467
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,340
Lieutenant Staley will be eligible
for discharge on 14 July this year.
468
00:37:23,659 --> 00:37:25,539
His academic training and education,
469
00:37:25,539 --> 00:37:28,550
generously supplied by the
United States Air Force,
470
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:31,190
complete with a degree
in modern communications,
471
00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:34,949
were all directed towards a
television career and on-camera performing.
472
00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:40,079
He has stated that on completion of
his reserve tour in the Air Force,
473
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:42,880
he will associate himself with a
television station or network.
474
00:37:44,050 --> 00:37:48,389
And if he has kept his thumb
on TV's pulse, and a clever,
475
00:37:48,389 --> 00:37:49,719
ambitious man certainly would,
476
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,389
he knows the great public
interest in flying saucers and UFOs.
477
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,820
The lieutenant's library boasts in
excess of a dozen books about flying saucers,
478
00:37:58,820 --> 00:38:03,500
almost all of them describing translucent
domes, bright metal skins emitting lights.
479
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:05,320
All without specifics.
480
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,719
I submit to this hearing board
that Lieutenant Paul Staley's
481
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,679
own credibility is far less
than most of these quick-butt,
482
00:38:12,679 --> 00:38:15,929
supercilious authors of the bills
he has cluttered his mind with.
483
00:38:16,469 --> 00:38:18,809
The lieutenant is a
totally unreliable witness.
484
00:38:20,090 --> 00:38:22,829
His so-called sighting is high fiction.
485
00:38:23,650 --> 00:38:24,170
And why?
486
00:38:25,590 --> 00:38:28,329
Because of the lucrative
opportunities and the sensational
487
00:38:28,329 --> 00:38:31,070
interest in his
appearing as a TV commentator,
488
00:38:31,070 --> 00:38:34,159
as an eyewitness who
has seen UFOs up close.
489
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:39,239
He is aware that there is no better way
to enter his chosen civilian profession
490
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,880
than with a dramatic announcement that
he is the only unimpeachable person.
491
00:38:43,420 --> 00:38:47,170
A qualified observer, an
ex-Air Force pilot to have
492
00:38:47,170 --> 00:38:50,510
seen and actually made
contact with flying saucers.
493
00:38:51,449 --> 00:38:54,769
There may be other motives as
well for this fanciful report.
494
00:38:55,989 --> 00:38:58,929
I am fully aware of the
obvious, crass commercial motives.
495
00:39:01,090 --> 00:39:02,010
I'm sure you are too.
496
00:39:07,110 --> 00:39:18,119
Where you been, sir?
497
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,659
Made a couple of phone
calls. And I made a couple more.
498
00:39:23,269 --> 00:39:24,989
Didn't take them long to
reach a determination?
499
00:39:27,059 --> 00:39:33,130
What other conclusion could they
possibly have reached? Thought of going away,
500
00:39:33,130 --> 00:39:37,239
present, from your father?
501
00:39:37,260 --> 00:39:43,309
I'm sorry.
502
00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:44,650
Are you really?
503
00:39:49,820 --> 00:39:51,519
What's all this business about Daddy?
504
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:53,960
He couldn't have had
anything to do with the outcome.
505
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,050
Well, you ask him to tell
you about it some rainy night.
506
00:39:59,170 --> 00:40:01,280
He's very good at war stories.
I've had about enough of them,
507
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,190
but you were raised on them.
508
00:40:02,969 --> 00:40:05,489
Paul, I wish you'd
stop talking in circles.
509
00:40:07,300 --> 00:40:09,800
Well, we've been heading in this
direction for quite some time, haven't we, Cynthia?
510
00:40:10,820 --> 00:40:11,940
Now's as good a time as any.
511
00:40:14,099 --> 00:40:16,090
From here on in, who's it
going to be, me or your father?
512
00:40:16,510 --> 00:40:19,369
This is neither the time nor
the place to discuss this.
513
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:23,090
This is the precise time and
the precise place to discuss it.
514
00:40:25,150 --> 00:40:26,150
You're serious, aren't you?
515
00:40:28,869 --> 00:40:29,269
All right.
516
00:40:30,309 --> 00:40:32,929
If you were faced with a
choice, how would you make it?
517
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,400
I was in that hearing
room today, and I made it.
518
00:40:37,739 --> 00:40:40,699
Well, I can't, and I don't see
any reason why I should have to.
519
00:40:42,570 --> 00:40:44,230
We just have to talk about this.
520
00:40:45,949 --> 00:40:46,909
It all got said in there.
521
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:18,369
Be right back. Take it to him, Major.
522
00:41:18,409 --> 00:41:20,750
Doctor? Major?
523
00:41:21,670 --> 00:41:24,559
They ought to give you the Academy
Award for your performance in there.
524
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,760
Take it easy, Major Gadlin.
Like you did with Staley?
525
00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:32,409
You've got about as much
objectivity as a shark with an empty stomach.
526
00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:36,630
Easy, Major. I've been involved in
this project for a number of years,
527
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:39,150
and I've never witnessed a more
thorough job of character assassination.
528
00:41:39,969 --> 00:41:41,510
Now, maybe you don't
think it's important to
529
00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:43,050
people who have these
sightings, but we do.
530
00:41:43,969 --> 00:41:47,719
Some of them tell us they've seen what
they believe are unidentified flying objects.
531
00:41:47,739 --> 00:41:50,829
That's what put us in
business, to try to identify.
532
00:41:51,130 --> 00:41:53,269
You know the ground rules of
Blue Book as well as I do.
533
00:41:53,989 --> 00:41:56,519
Now, I don't know what your
reasons were for that travesty in there,
534
00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:59,050
but I do know that you've
slapped a label on one young man.
535
00:41:59,070 --> 00:42:00,699
He's gonna wear the rest of his life.
536
00:42:01,260 --> 00:42:05,849
Six Air Force officers of high rank made
this determination, Major, and it stands.
537
00:42:06,610 --> 00:42:10,150
We believe Lieutenant Staley tried
to perpetuate a hoax, a pure hoax.
538
00:42:10,570 --> 00:42:12,989
And you're right, I
know my blue book history.
539
00:42:13,389 --> 00:42:15,530
Enough to know you've dealt
with a good number of these.
540
00:42:16,110 --> 00:42:19,130
Only when they were thoroughly
proven to be such, and this one is not.
541
00:42:21,489 --> 00:42:24,550
I'll tell you, O'Neal, we're going to dig
into this, and we'll pull up an answer,
542
00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:25,889
too, as to what motivated you today.
543
00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:29,599
In the meantime, the Air Force won't be
needing your service anymore in this field.
544
00:42:30,980 --> 00:42:33,699
You're making command
decisions now, are you? No, sir.
545
00:42:34,380 --> 00:42:37,929
Headquarters Air Force. Very well,
Major, but I called it as I saw it.
546
00:42:38,650 --> 00:42:40,329
Now, what would you
have done if you were me?
547
00:42:41,989 --> 00:42:43,809
Can I wait a while before I'm used to it?
548
00:42:54,449 --> 00:42:55,820
Well, sir, how do we put it down?
549
00:42:56,820 --> 00:42:57,699
What it really is.
550
00:42:58,619 --> 00:43:00,050
A true unknown. The End
551
00:47:03,260 --> 00:47:07,159
Damn fool. Nobody believe you anyway.45515
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