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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,803 (gentle theme music) 2 00:00:09,870 --> 00:00:10,950 - The committee concluded that, 3 00:00:10,950 --> 00:00:14,460 in the 19 years since the first UFO was sighted, 4 00:00:14,460 --> 00:00:15,750 there has been no evidence 5 00:00:15,750 --> 00:00:18,720 that unidentified flying objects are a threat 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,376 to our national security. 7 00:00:20,376 --> 00:00:22,876 (eerie music) 8 00:00:27,832 --> 00:00:29,739 (birds chirping) 9 00:00:29,739 --> 00:00:33,452 (wind whipping) (birds chirping) 10 00:00:33,452 --> 00:00:34,710 (Jeremy babbling) 11 00:00:34,710 --> 00:00:35,910 - I know. 12 00:00:35,910 --> 00:00:37,380 Lay down. Lay down. 13 00:00:37,380 --> 00:00:38,213 I know. (dog collar clinking) 14 00:00:38,213 --> 00:00:39,180 I gotta submit to the kisses 15 00:00:39,180 --> 00:00:40,041 or it's just gonna happen. 16 00:00:40,041 --> 00:00:41,508 Come here. Lay down. 17 00:00:41,508 --> 00:00:42,341 Lay down. 18 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,650 Kind of shocked that a buddy of mine is gonna talk 19 00:00:46,650 --> 00:00:49,050 with me, but you know, it's an individual 20 00:00:49,050 --> 00:00:51,540 that has direct insight 21 00:00:51,540 --> 00:00:54,579 into what I call the Chandelier UAP. 22 00:00:54,579 --> 00:00:57,079 (eerie music) 23 00:00:58,350 --> 00:01:00,010 It was classified UFO UAP 24 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,198 by our intelligence agencies. 25 00:01:03,198 --> 00:01:05,865 (ominous music) 26 00:01:11,598 --> 00:01:14,108 (phone ringing) 27 00:01:14,108 --> 00:01:15,000 - [Intelligence Officer] Hello? 28 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,267 - Hey man, how's it going? 29 00:01:16,267 --> 00:01:17,160 - [Intelligence Officer] Good, man. How are you? 30 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,259 - I'm good. 31 00:01:18,259 --> 00:01:19,560 (ominous music) 32 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,570 So you are aware that I have 33 00:01:21,570 --> 00:01:23,820 to receive something multiple times 34 00:01:23,820 --> 00:01:26,520 if it appears to be a military based assessment, 35 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,758 that something is a UFO, right? 36 00:01:28,758 --> 00:01:29,591 - [Intelligence Officer] Correct. 37 00:01:29,591 --> 00:01:32,258 (ominous music) 38 00:01:34,310 --> 00:01:36,452 - So I've got a still image of something 39 00:01:36,452 --> 00:01:40,080 that I have learned to be called the Chandelier UAP. 40 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,310 Does that ring a bell to you? 41 00:01:41,310 --> 00:01:44,190 (ominous music) 42 00:01:44,190 --> 00:01:45,023 - [Intelligence Officer] It does. 43 00:01:45,023 --> 00:01:47,690 (ominous music) 44 00:01:52,488 --> 00:01:55,233 (birds chirping) 45 00:01:55,233 --> 00:01:57,300 - This still image, it was filmed, 46 00:01:57,300 --> 00:01:58,260 I can tell by the coordinates, 47 00:01:58,260 --> 00:01:59,947 it was filmed over the Persian Gulf. 48 00:01:59,947 --> 00:02:01,290 - [Intelligence Officer] It's called the Chandelier, 49 00:02:01,290 --> 00:02:03,510 because if you lay down at your dining room table 50 00:02:03,510 --> 00:02:06,060 and look up at your chandelier, it looks just like that. 51 00:02:06,060 --> 00:02:07,740 It's very thin, 52 00:02:07,740 --> 00:02:11,550 and the object does not circulate on its own. 53 00:02:11,550 --> 00:02:14,596 It is going in very small circles. 54 00:02:14,596 --> 00:02:16,500 (ominous music) 55 00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:18,480 - So what was the most impressive thing 56 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,977 to you about this video, which the world has not seen yet? 57 00:02:20,977 --> 00:02:23,670 - [Intelligence Officer] The fact that it just, 58 00:02:23,670 --> 00:02:24,690 it makes no sense. 59 00:02:24,690 --> 00:02:29,690 It is just the most bizarre structure with no purpose 60 00:02:30,870 --> 00:02:33,600 and the speed that has everyone 61 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,850 across the intelligence community just asking questions 62 00:02:35,850 --> 00:02:38,040 and trying to figure out what this thing is. 63 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,720 There is no wings. 64 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,380 There is seemingly no place for anyone to sit on. 65 00:02:43,380 --> 00:02:47,670 It's just a bizarre shape that has a strange propulsion 66 00:02:47,670 --> 00:02:49,740 and disappeared immediately. 67 00:02:49,740 --> 00:02:52,890 - So you have obviously had had great access 68 00:02:52,890 --> 00:02:56,640 to things that the public hasn't seen yet, 69 00:02:56,640 --> 00:02:59,610 and it is your determination that this UFO thing, 70 00:02:59,610 --> 00:03:02,671 there's something major to it and the public should know? 71 00:03:02,671 --> 00:03:05,453 - [Intelligence Officer] Absolutely. Absolutely, 100%. 72 00:03:05,453 --> 00:03:08,730 (ominous music) 73 00:03:08,730 --> 00:03:13,440 I can tell you that, across the US intelligence community, 74 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,250 there are people like me and David who have seen things 75 00:03:17,250 --> 00:03:18,330 and are asking questions 76 00:03:18,330 --> 00:03:20,100 and trying to figure out what we're seeing, 77 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:21,237 because there are no answers. 78 00:03:21,237 --> 00:03:23,520 And when the higher ups see these, 79 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,290 they just find an excuse. 80 00:03:25,290 --> 00:03:27,150 - Yeah, I've heard, - That's what's frustrating. 81 00:03:27,150 --> 00:03:30,690 - Are you convinced that UAP are 82 00:03:30,690 --> 00:03:33,240 from some technologically advanced group 83 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,216 that we don't directly know of? 84 00:03:35,216 --> 00:03:37,774 (ominous music) 85 00:03:37,774 --> 00:03:39,600 - [Intelligence Officer] That's a loaded question. 86 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,200 There are so many possibilities. 87 00:03:42,420 --> 00:03:45,990 It's not us now. It's not adversaries. 88 00:03:45,990 --> 00:03:49,770 Is it us from some other place or dimension? 89 00:03:49,770 --> 00:03:51,630 Or there are so many possibilities 90 00:03:51,630 --> 00:03:55,380 that probably sound crazy, but I think about it a lot, 91 00:03:55,380 --> 00:03:57,090 and there are a lot of people in the intelligence community 92 00:03:57,090 --> 00:03:59,640 that don't make, you know, the large decisions, 93 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,320 but are interested in this. 94 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:02,700 Where they come from, 95 00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:06,190 whether it's in the sea, you know, someplace else, 96 00:04:06,190 --> 00:04:07,833 it's, that's a mystery. 97 00:04:08,940 --> 00:04:10,499 And one other thing I'd like to say, Jeremy, 98 00:04:10,499 --> 00:04:15,499 is there are many, many videos that can't be released 99 00:04:16,410 --> 00:04:20,130 of surveillance of other countries that we are doing 100 00:04:20,130 --> 00:04:22,620 with UAP all the time, 101 00:04:22,620 --> 00:04:26,310 especially around aircraft and around ships. 102 00:04:26,310 --> 00:04:29,250 - Like Russian ships and two bad boys flying by. 103 00:04:29,250 --> 00:04:32,899 Not that I've seen it with my own eyes, but just saying. 104 00:04:32,899 --> 00:04:34,677 - [Intelligence Officer] Yes, I've seen quite a bit of that, 105 00:04:34,677 --> 00:04:36,702 and that will never be released, I'm sure. 106 00:04:36,702 --> 00:04:38,490 - Yeah. - But as far as 107 00:04:38,490 --> 00:04:39,920 our collection in the skies, 108 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,520 I have no problem with that. 109 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:42,570 It's not new. - Wow, man. 110 00:04:42,570 --> 00:04:45,450 Imagine what we're capturing with our sensors now. 111 00:04:45,450 --> 00:04:46,290 Well, thanks, man. 112 00:04:46,290 --> 00:04:49,410 I appreciate, you know, for all this time, 113 00:04:49,410 --> 00:04:51,630 just kind of giving me your insights. 114 00:04:51,630 --> 00:04:53,880 You know, there's a lot of people that I talk with 115 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,130 that I kind of cross-reference, 116 00:04:56,130 --> 00:04:58,920 you know, if something is legitimate or real, 117 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,920 just even knowing that what I received is an actual, 118 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,200 you know, mystery to our intelligence agencies. 119 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,007 That's a good heads up. So I appreciate that. 120 00:05:06,007 --> 00:05:07,650 - [Intelligence Officer] It is a mystery. 121 00:05:07,650 --> 00:05:09,450 - It is a mystery. - It's mystery across the IC. 122 00:05:09,450 --> 00:05:11,133 Yes, it's a mystery. 123 00:05:11,133 --> 00:05:14,730 - I know, dude. There's some good stuff out there. 124 00:05:14,730 --> 00:05:15,563 I mean, here's the deal. 125 00:05:15,563 --> 00:05:16,800 I'm just glad that there's people 126 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,420 in the IC interested in this, 127 00:05:18,420 --> 00:05:20,700 and hopefully, if something is of that importance, 128 00:05:20,700 --> 00:05:21,870 people keep coming forward 129 00:05:21,870 --> 00:05:24,150 and giving that information to journalists or whatever, 130 00:05:24,150 --> 00:05:26,310 because I think it's, you know, it's key. 131 00:05:26,310 --> 00:05:27,143 I don't know 132 00:05:27,143 --> 00:05:29,220 if the normal process is gonna move this forward. 133 00:05:29,220 --> 00:05:31,620 I think that, unfortunately, we have to rely 134 00:05:31,620 --> 00:05:34,410 on whistleblowers and maybe even leaks to some degree, 135 00:05:34,410 --> 00:05:36,590 but whistleblowers in particular I think is going 136 00:05:36,590 --> 00:05:37,920 to move this ball forward. 137 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,280 So anyway, man, thanks for your insights as always. 138 00:05:41,280 --> 00:05:44,223 Good to talk with you and yeah, man, you just take care. 139 00:05:45,129 --> 00:05:45,962 - [Intelligence Officer] Thank you, 140 00:05:45,962 --> 00:05:46,795 and please keep doing your work. 141 00:05:46,795 --> 00:05:47,670 - All right, thanks, brother. 142 00:05:47,670 --> 00:05:48,503 - Bye. 143 00:05:48,503 --> 00:05:50,700 (tense music) 144 00:05:50,700 --> 00:05:53,010 - We are on the cusp of a question 145 00:05:53,010 --> 00:05:55,410 that has kind of burdened human consciousness 146 00:05:55,410 --> 00:05:56,398 since the beginning. 147 00:05:56,398 --> 00:05:58,050 (tense music) 148 00:05:58,050 --> 00:05:59,163 Are we alone? 149 00:06:00,207 --> 00:06:02,707 (tense music) 150 00:06:03,750 --> 00:06:06,870 We are now on the cusp of answering that question. 151 00:06:06,870 --> 00:06:09,720 This coverup, and it is a coverup, 152 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,840 it has harmed people having to keep this secret. 153 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:14,610 You have been lied to. 154 00:06:14,610 --> 00:06:16,800 The only way that we're gonna be able 155 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,200 to break through this is to protect those 156 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,370 that are coming forward. 157 00:06:20,370 --> 00:06:24,180 People have gone and fought to get this information out, 158 00:06:24,180 --> 00:06:25,940 and I don't know where we're gonna land. 159 00:06:25,940 --> 00:06:28,440 (tense music) 160 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,831 It's now our job to pry these doors open. 161 00:06:33,831 --> 00:06:36,120 (tense music) 162 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,840 - [Witness] No fucking way. 163 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:41,910 - [Witness] What are we looking at here? 164 00:06:41,910 --> 00:06:46,650 - The truth might not be roses and birthday cake. 165 00:06:46,650 --> 00:06:48,930 It might not be something very palatable. 166 00:06:48,930 --> 00:06:50,280 It might be nefarious. 167 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:51,780 Look, that is a possibility. 168 00:06:51,780 --> 00:06:56,400 The reality is every inch, every millimeter of truth 169 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,800 on this subject has been fought for 170 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,140 at the personal peril of many people that speak 171 00:07:01,140 --> 00:07:03,702 to journalists like myself and George Knapp. 172 00:07:03,702 --> 00:07:06,452 (dramatic music) 173 00:07:10,069 --> 00:07:13,652 (dramatic music continues) 174 00:07:16,020 --> 00:07:17,070 - My name is George Knapp. 175 00:07:17,070 --> 00:07:20,133 I am an investigative reporter with KLAS TV. 176 00:07:20,133 --> 00:07:24,900 I've been chasing the UFO mystery since 1987, long time. 177 00:07:24,900 --> 00:07:27,060 - Despite some sniping from other media 178 00:07:27,060 --> 00:07:29,040 and the scoffing of government officials, 179 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,110 people want to know about UFOs. 180 00:07:31,110 --> 00:07:33,720 - They could be extraterrestrial, interdimensional, 181 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,730 time travelers, all the above. 182 00:07:35,730 --> 00:07:39,090 They could be so many more exotic possibilities 183 00:07:39,090 --> 00:07:40,860 that we haven't even considered. 184 00:07:40,860 --> 00:07:42,930 - [Witness] Here's another one right here. 185 00:07:42,930 --> 00:07:44,370 You see him? 186 00:07:44,370 --> 00:07:46,830 Flying right over our heads. 187 00:07:46,830 --> 00:07:48,840 - We have to be open to all the possibilities, 188 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,180 because the fact is nobody knows for sure. 189 00:07:51,180 --> 00:07:54,630 As I've said, I've been at this for 35, 36 years. 190 00:07:54,630 --> 00:07:57,510 I've met people who have been at the highest echelons 191 00:07:57,510 --> 00:08:00,330 of government and the highest echelons of Congress. 192 00:08:00,330 --> 00:08:02,400 They've tried to get the answers to this. 193 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,270 No one that I know for sure knows the answers to this stuff. 194 00:08:06,270 --> 00:08:08,370 We have to be open to all those possibilities, 195 00:08:08,370 --> 00:08:10,740 because there's an ontological shock coming. 196 00:08:10,740 --> 00:08:13,260 A lot of people who have not paid attention to this topic, 197 00:08:13,260 --> 00:08:16,350 who think it's all nonsense, it's tabloid stories, 198 00:08:16,350 --> 00:08:19,230 are in for a really big surprise, because it's real. 199 00:08:19,230 --> 00:08:22,020 It's true. It's here, and we need to figure it out. 200 00:08:22,020 --> 00:08:24,600 From a newsman's perspective, I can say this, 201 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,340 it would be the biggest story in history, 202 00:08:26,340 --> 00:08:28,475 the biggest story, period. 203 00:08:28,475 --> 00:08:31,225 (dramatic music) 204 00:08:32,366 --> 00:08:35,340 (chiming music) 205 00:08:35,340 --> 00:08:37,830 - This information, it can be difficult, 206 00:08:37,830 --> 00:08:40,590 because it completely shatters this idea, 207 00:08:40,590 --> 00:08:44,340 this dome of possibility that we believed we live in. 208 00:08:44,340 --> 00:08:48,060 I don't know where this goes, but I do know it's necessary. 209 00:08:48,060 --> 00:08:49,890 - It's a lot to get your head around 210 00:08:49,890 --> 00:08:54,240 and I'm not sure how humanity in general would react to it. 211 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,550 - We begin this morning with more unidentified objects 212 00:08:56,550 --> 00:08:58,740 in the skies over the United States. 213 00:08:58,740 --> 00:09:00,270 - Yeah, the Pentagon has confirmed 214 00:09:00,270 --> 00:09:02,100 that three objects have been shot down 215 00:09:02,100 --> 00:09:03,900 in American airspace since Friday. 216 00:09:03,900 --> 00:09:08,370 - In February, our government shot down three UFOs, 217 00:09:08,370 --> 00:09:10,410 unknown objects in the sky. 218 00:09:10,410 --> 00:09:12,420 One of those was a Chinese balloon. 219 00:09:12,420 --> 00:09:13,590 We don't know what the other two are, 220 00:09:13,590 --> 00:09:15,780 because they haven't told us what they were, 221 00:09:15,780 --> 00:09:19,230 but you know, the public paid attention for about three days 222 00:09:19,230 --> 00:09:20,227 and then they went back to, 223 00:09:20,227 --> 00:09:22,026 "Hey, when's that 'Barbie' movie coming out?" 224 00:09:22,026 --> 00:09:23,250 (reporters shouting) 225 00:09:23,250 --> 00:09:26,343 - Disclosure is a double-edged sword. 226 00:09:27,870 --> 00:09:29,880 Real disclosure means truth. 227 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,680 That's what we must always remember, 228 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:34,590 and the truth is not always fun. 229 00:09:34,590 --> 00:09:38,340 The truth is not always psychologically reassuring. 230 00:09:38,340 --> 00:09:40,773 The reality is that the truth can be disturbing. 231 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,650 Now the question is, do you wanna know it or not? 232 00:09:43,650 --> 00:09:45,630 There's a good analogy here. 233 00:09:45,630 --> 00:09:47,550 You're asleep. You're dreaming. 234 00:09:47,550 --> 00:09:49,620 In your dream, you're on the beach. 235 00:09:49,620 --> 00:09:50,820 You're drinking margaritas. 236 00:09:50,820 --> 00:09:52,830 You're having a great time. It's awesome. 237 00:09:52,830 --> 00:09:54,960 In reality, your house is burning. 238 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,190 What do you wanna do? 239 00:09:56,190 --> 00:09:57,210 You wanna keep with the dream 240 00:09:57,210 --> 00:09:59,280 and keep drinking the margaritas in your dream 241 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,748 or do you need to wake up and deal with the fire? 242 00:10:01,748 --> 00:10:04,320 (ominous music) 243 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,140 - When I'm told I can't know something, 244 00:10:07,140 --> 00:10:08,580 ooh, you don't want to know the truth, 245 00:10:08,580 --> 00:10:10,590 you can't handle the truth. 246 00:10:10,590 --> 00:10:12,780 Fuck that. Yes, I can. 247 00:10:12,780 --> 00:10:15,420 What does it look like if we figure this all out? 248 00:10:15,420 --> 00:10:18,390 - We're pretty close to reaching the most realistic goal 249 00:10:18,390 --> 00:10:19,650 that I think is achievable, 250 00:10:19,650 --> 00:10:20,970 and that is for our government 251 00:10:20,970 --> 00:10:24,000 to acknowledge there's a non-human intelligence among us. 252 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,160 I don't think that there is ever gonna come a day 253 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,780 when they're saying, "Yeah, aliens are real. 254 00:10:27,780 --> 00:10:28,830 They've been abducting us. 255 00:10:28,830 --> 00:10:30,420 There's nothing we can do about it. 256 00:10:30,420 --> 00:10:33,840 They control our nuclear weapons. Sorry, goodnight." 257 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,550 That's not gonna happen. 258 00:10:35,550 --> 00:10:39,780 I think we are pretty close to forcing the hand 259 00:10:39,780 --> 00:10:41,946 of those keepers of the secrets. 260 00:10:41,946 --> 00:10:43,800 (ominous music) 261 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,810 - A genuine disclosure 262 00:10:45,810 --> 00:10:49,380 of the UAP UFO subject would be probably, 263 00:10:49,380 --> 00:10:52,140 just about the most earth-shattering thing imaginable. 264 00:10:52,140 --> 00:10:55,353 It would have implications for our entire society. 265 00:10:56,790 --> 00:10:59,850 It really will show, potentially at the deepest levels, 266 00:10:59,850 --> 00:11:03,630 a society that has lived a foundational lie 267 00:11:03,630 --> 00:11:05,700 for an entire human lifetime. 268 00:11:05,700 --> 00:11:07,140 I don't know what gets bigger than that. 269 00:11:07,140 --> 00:11:08,880 - There are a number of different theories 270 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,880 about what this phenomenon might be, 271 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,300 but then also the prosaic explanation 272 00:11:15,300 --> 00:11:17,970 that it may simply be our own technology, 273 00:11:17,970 --> 00:11:19,920 technology that the US government has 274 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,151 that we just don't know about yet. 275 00:11:22,151 --> 00:11:24,901 (dramatic music) 276 00:11:30,810 --> 00:11:34,290 - The aerospace defense companies who are often the ones 277 00:11:34,290 --> 00:11:36,900 who are working on these black budget programs 278 00:11:36,900 --> 00:11:38,460 behind the scenes, these are people 279 00:11:38,460 --> 00:11:40,980 who understand how to play high level chess. 280 00:11:40,980 --> 00:11:44,430 And so one of the possibilities is that this is some 281 00:11:44,430 --> 00:11:45,810 of our classified tech 282 00:11:45,810 --> 00:11:48,870 that's much more advanced than anyone would've ever expected 283 00:11:48,870 --> 00:11:50,785 and they wanna get it out of the garage. 284 00:11:50,785 --> 00:11:53,452 (ominous music) 285 00:11:54,660 --> 00:11:57,630 - For a long time, I wanted to believe 286 00:11:57,630 --> 00:11:59,430 that this was our technology. 287 00:11:59,430 --> 00:12:01,350 This was our black tech, 288 00:12:01,350 --> 00:12:04,324 and that we beat anti-gravity and go America. 289 00:12:04,324 --> 00:12:06,810 (ominous music) 290 00:12:06,810 --> 00:12:08,040 - I know that our government, 291 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,003 our intelligence agencies have used the UFOs 292 00:12:11,003 --> 00:12:14,610 and UFO mythology to cover top secret programs 293 00:12:14,610 --> 00:12:16,860 and top secret platforms and technologies. 294 00:12:16,860 --> 00:12:17,693 They've done that. 295 00:12:17,693 --> 00:12:21,750 They've taken advantage of UFO stories and lore 296 00:12:21,750 --> 00:12:24,180 to hide advanced platforms, 297 00:12:24,180 --> 00:12:26,553 planes that can do amazing things. 298 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:28,650 - And so it could be, 299 00:12:28,650 --> 00:12:30,900 they're gonna fake some sort of fake alien invasion 300 00:12:30,900 --> 00:12:33,030 to freak us all out and get us to say, sure, 301 00:12:33,030 --> 00:12:35,190 spend whatever you have to do to keep us safe. 302 00:12:35,190 --> 00:12:38,190 - This was actually done many years ago in the 1990s. 303 00:12:38,190 --> 00:12:40,110 The official historian of the CIA, 304 00:12:40,110 --> 00:12:41,940 whose name was Gerald Haines, 305 00:12:41,940 --> 00:12:46,050 and he said we were flying the U-2 aircraft and the SR-71, 306 00:12:46,050 --> 00:12:47,760 and a lot of people thought those were UFOs, 307 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,290 and we just let people believe that, 308 00:12:49,290 --> 00:12:50,640 because, well, we didn't want them 309 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,940 to know what our actual technological capabilities were. 310 00:12:53,940 --> 00:12:54,773 Well, the fact is, 311 00:12:54,773 --> 00:12:57,060 the United States does develop a great amount 312 00:12:57,060 --> 00:12:59,760 of exotic, very advanced technology, 313 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,293 black budget tech, we can say. 314 00:13:03,210 --> 00:13:07,260 - I have personally felt the blunt force trauma 315 00:13:07,260 --> 00:13:11,250 of that secrecy of our government's will 316 00:13:11,250 --> 00:13:15,360 and desire to hold this fundamental fact back 317 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,000 from its population, from us, 318 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,290 and that congressional hearing, it was a monumental moment 319 00:13:22,290 --> 00:13:25,350 in human history to get to ground truth 320 00:13:25,350 --> 00:13:27,023 on the UFO phenomenon. 321 00:13:27,023 --> 00:13:29,130 (dramatic music) 322 00:13:29,130 --> 00:13:32,520 - A multi-decade UAP crash retrieval 323 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,710 and reverse engineering program, 324 00:13:34,710 --> 00:13:37,380 I made the decision to report this information 325 00:13:37,380 --> 00:13:39,000 and in effect, becoming a whistleblower. 326 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,760 - Have you met with people about advanced technologies 327 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:42,930 that the US government has? 328 00:13:42,930 --> 00:13:46,290 - Both space and aerospace departmental programs, yeah. 329 00:13:46,290 --> 00:13:48,300 - Do you have knowledge or do you have reason to believe 330 00:13:48,300 --> 00:13:51,180 that there are programs in the advanced tech space 331 00:13:51,180 --> 00:13:52,293 that are unsanctioned? 332 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,080 - Yes, I do. 333 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,490 - It was incredibly vindicating 334 00:13:56,490 --> 00:13:59,370 to hear about somebody at such a high level talking 335 00:13:59,370 --> 00:14:04,370 about these coverups of crash retrievals that our government 336 00:14:04,380 --> 00:14:06,870 or defense contractors have been hiding 337 00:14:06,870 --> 00:14:09,840 and studying recovered technology 338 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,150 that's not from our civilization. 339 00:14:12,150 --> 00:14:14,190 - UFOs are real. We have craft. 340 00:14:14,190 --> 00:14:15,780 We have obtained some of them. 341 00:14:15,780 --> 00:14:17,400 We are exploiting them. 342 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:18,840 We try to figure out how it works. 343 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,220 Can we reverse engineer it? 344 00:14:20,220 --> 00:14:23,310 So naturally, we go to our contractors, 345 00:14:23,310 --> 00:14:27,150 some of these big aerospace companies like Lockheed Martin, 346 00:14:27,150 --> 00:14:30,120 Raytheon, Boeing, and we say, "Hey, you know, 347 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,450 look, here's a product we need in secrecy 348 00:14:33,450 --> 00:14:34,770 because of national security. 349 00:14:34,770 --> 00:14:37,770 We need you to exploit this and figure out for us." 350 00:14:37,770 --> 00:14:38,820 Over time though, 351 00:14:38,820 --> 00:14:42,920 the compartmentalization has made it so there's no oversight 352 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:47,670 of these exploitation programs that are occurring today. 353 00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:49,290 - You can't FOIA Lockheed 354 00:14:49,290 --> 00:14:52,470 and ask them if they've got a flying saucer in Burbank, 355 00:14:52,470 --> 00:14:53,610 something like that. 356 00:14:53,610 --> 00:14:56,280 So they rely on advanced companies, 357 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:57,960 like these aerospace companies, 358 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,400 to figure out how they work. 359 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,230 Can we duplicate that technology? 360 00:15:01,230 --> 00:15:02,790 That's what we're trying to do. 361 00:15:02,790 --> 00:15:05,250 It's what the Russians are trying to do, the Chinese, 362 00:15:05,250 --> 00:15:07,189 and probably a couple of other countries as well. 363 00:15:07,189 --> 00:15:10,140 (tense music) 364 00:15:10,140 --> 00:15:12,600 - There's money involved in this. 365 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,010 There's money involved in UFO tech. 366 00:15:15,010 --> 00:15:16,170 I mean, you think about it. 367 00:15:16,170 --> 00:15:18,900 If there actually is real alien tech, 368 00:15:18,900 --> 00:15:21,540 what's the monetary value of that? 369 00:15:21,540 --> 00:15:23,400 It's gotta be very high. 370 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,530 And if you've got defense contractors, 371 00:15:25,530 --> 00:15:27,690 some of them have in on this, 372 00:15:27,690 --> 00:15:29,550 and they're able to exploit this. 373 00:15:29,550 --> 00:15:30,660 Well, that's a money maker. 374 00:15:30,660 --> 00:15:33,135 It's like a goose that lays golden eggs. 375 00:15:33,135 --> 00:15:35,635 (tense music) 376 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,680 - You have a Pentagon that has billions of dollars 377 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:44,790 that they hide, 378 00:15:44,790 --> 00:15:47,220 we don't ask for any accounting of. 379 00:15:47,220 --> 00:15:48,600 They never passed an audit 380 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:49,860 in the history of audits. 381 00:15:49,860 --> 00:15:51,870 I've often said, the only way we're really gonna get 382 00:15:51,870 --> 00:15:53,760 to the bottom of this is somebody's gonna walk out 383 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,460 of one of these labs with this information 384 00:15:56,460 --> 00:15:57,870 and puts it out on the internet 385 00:15:57,870 --> 00:16:00,930 before they commit suicide by shooting themselves 386 00:16:00,930 --> 00:16:02,446 in the back of the head five times. 387 00:16:02,446 --> 00:16:05,820 (ominous music) 388 00:16:05,820 --> 00:16:08,370 - My attitude is never underestimate 389 00:16:08,370 --> 00:16:12,360 the establishment's ability to keep this contained 390 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:13,560 for as long as they want. 391 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,290 It is my belief that, if the individuals 392 00:16:16,290 --> 00:16:18,960 and the groups in charge of secrecy on this matter, 393 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:19,860 and there are such people, 394 00:16:19,860 --> 00:16:21,630 if they could hold us out for five more years, 395 00:16:21,630 --> 00:16:22,463 they'll do it. 396 00:16:22,463 --> 00:16:24,480 If they could hold it out for 50 more years, 397 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:25,980 they'll do that too. 398 00:16:25,980 --> 00:16:28,776 This is a delay game for as long as possible. 399 00:16:28,776 --> 00:16:31,443 (chiming music) 400 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:34,980 - There is no way you can divorce 401 00:16:34,980 --> 00:16:36,780 national security implications 402 00:16:36,780 --> 00:16:39,150 from that idea of technology. 403 00:16:39,150 --> 00:16:41,820 So that's a big reason for that secrecy, 404 00:16:41,820 --> 00:16:43,260 and I think it's gonna continue, 405 00:16:43,260 --> 00:16:45,090 and even though people like Jeremy 406 00:16:45,090 --> 00:16:46,740 and I are pounding away at it 407 00:16:46,740 --> 00:16:48,690 and trying to get to the bottom of it, 408 00:16:48,690 --> 00:16:50,286 it's always gonna be that way. 409 00:16:50,286 --> 00:16:52,222 (chiming music) 410 00:16:52,222 --> 00:16:53,730 (tense music) 411 00:16:53,730 --> 00:16:55,440 - Do you believe 412 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,110 that extra terrestrial intelligence 413 00:16:58,110 --> 00:17:00,210 has visited planet Earth? 414 00:17:00,210 --> 00:17:01,680 - I think you can go a step further. 415 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:02,880 It hasn't just visited. 416 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,380 It's been here a long time, 417 00:17:04,380 --> 00:17:07,080 and people talk about the Wow signal, 418 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,480 looking for extra terrestrial intelligence. 419 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,310 The Wow signal is that people see it 420 00:17:11,310 --> 00:17:13,170 on an almost regular basis. 421 00:17:13,170 --> 00:17:15,120 That's the communication that's already here. 422 00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:18,810 - If you had to assign a probability to that statement, 423 00:17:18,810 --> 00:17:21,540 that you believe extraterrestrial intelligence has visited 424 00:17:21,540 --> 00:17:24,780 this planet, what probability would you assign? 425 00:17:24,780 --> 00:17:25,620 - 100%. 426 00:17:25,620 --> 00:17:28,287 (ominous music) 427 00:17:31,969 --> 00:17:35,469 (ominous music continues) 428 00:17:39,450 --> 00:17:41,190 So you know, why did I say that? 429 00:17:41,190 --> 00:17:44,520 To make an advance in an area, sometimes you have 430 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,550 to stake out a slightly more extreme position 431 00:17:47,550 --> 00:17:48,930 than you normally would. 432 00:17:48,930 --> 00:17:53,760 If I had said, 60% or 95% or even 99%, 433 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:54,930 it wouldn't have gone anywhere. 434 00:17:54,930 --> 00:17:59,930 I think as long as the public doesn't give up 435 00:18:01,170 --> 00:18:03,783 and still continues to press, 436 00:18:04,650 --> 00:18:05,730 maybe one day, 437 00:18:05,730 --> 00:18:08,160 somebody in the government will make a mistake 438 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,290 and the information will get out. 439 00:18:10,290 --> 00:18:11,220 We'll see. 440 00:18:11,220 --> 00:18:12,660 When I apply for a grant, 441 00:18:12,660 --> 00:18:15,510 I will put down my preliminary data. 442 00:18:15,510 --> 00:18:19,110 It's just enough data that I feel is so conclusive 443 00:18:19,110 --> 00:18:21,780 that I'm willing to stake two or three years 444 00:18:21,780 --> 00:18:22,830 of my life on it, 445 00:18:22,830 --> 00:18:25,020 and I say, this is something that I really believe in, 446 00:18:25,020 --> 00:18:29,790 and I'm going to use this data as my flag in the sand, 447 00:18:29,790 --> 00:18:32,580 and I rarely put forward a hypothesis 448 00:18:32,580 --> 00:18:35,446 unless I know it's gonna be right. 449 00:18:35,446 --> 00:18:37,863 (slow music) 450 00:18:38,982 --> 00:18:40,110 (ominous music) 451 00:18:40,110 --> 00:18:42,840 - Another group that comes here might think, 452 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,280 that's a really great place. 453 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,410 These humans are a real problem. 454 00:18:46,410 --> 00:18:47,820 They're detonating all these nukes. 455 00:18:47,820 --> 00:18:48,926 They've got all these weapons. 456 00:18:48,926 --> 00:18:51,426 (eerie music) 457 00:18:53,370 --> 00:18:56,670 They're laying waste, really, to the global ecosystem. 458 00:18:56,670 --> 00:18:58,020 Let's be real. 459 00:18:58,020 --> 00:19:00,060 And they might be thinking, 460 00:19:00,060 --> 00:19:02,250 we can manage that a lot better than they are. 461 00:19:02,250 --> 00:19:03,083 How do we do it? 462 00:19:03,083 --> 00:19:05,280 We're not really biologically suited for it. 463 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,175 Can we create our own avatars and live there? 464 00:19:08,175 --> 00:19:10,675 (eerie music) 465 00:19:14,135 --> 00:19:17,468 (eerie music continues) 466 00:19:21,965 --> 00:19:23,370 I've come across a number 467 00:19:23,370 --> 00:19:28,370 of direct witnesses I've spoken to in great detail 468 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,610 who have convinced me that there are, 469 00:19:32,610 --> 00:19:34,800 brace yourself, human looking beings, 470 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,690 but they're not quite like us. 471 00:19:36,690 --> 00:19:37,598 They're here. 472 00:19:37,598 --> 00:19:40,098 (eerie music) 473 00:19:43,170 --> 00:19:45,390 - It is something that's been hinted at, 474 00:19:45,390 --> 00:19:47,400 that they're right under our noses, 475 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,540 that there is a sense 476 00:19:48,540 --> 00:19:51,930 that these non-human intelligence have somehow adapted 477 00:19:51,930 --> 00:19:53,565 and become part of our society. 478 00:19:53,565 --> 00:19:56,393 (eerie music) 479 00:19:56,393 --> 00:19:57,960 - I don't think there are any simple answers 480 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,310 when it comes to this. 481 00:19:59,310 --> 00:20:02,280 I think some are of this Earth 482 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,620 and have actually been residing on this Earth 483 00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:05,580 for a long time. 484 00:20:05,580 --> 00:20:08,400 I believe that some may walk amongst us, 485 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,350 as unnerving as that might be. 486 00:20:10,350 --> 00:20:14,070 Think about the pandas. Think about a zoo in China. 487 00:20:14,070 --> 00:20:15,840 How do you interact with them 488 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:16,890 without scaring them? 489 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,040 You dress up in a panda suit. 490 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,920 And the pandas, being pandas, they don't realize 491 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,600 that it's a human. 492 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,010 They think it's just another panda. 493 00:20:26,010 --> 00:20:28,620 - I've heard this from multiple different sources. 494 00:20:28,620 --> 00:20:30,720 Robert Bigelow, Bigelow Aerospace, 495 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,240 has talked about them walking among us. 496 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,270 A couple of the primary remote viewers from the US Army 497 00:20:36,270 --> 00:20:38,430 and CIA remote viewing program said 498 00:20:38,430 --> 00:20:40,140 that they do look like humans 499 00:20:40,140 --> 00:20:41,784 and they walk among us when they want to. 500 00:20:41,784 --> 00:20:44,284 (eerie music) 501 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,570 There's the common concept 502 00:20:48,570 --> 00:20:50,850 of the little gray alien with the big eyes. 503 00:20:50,850 --> 00:20:53,040 The fact is we don't really know what they look like. 504 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,300 - I don't think it's threatening. 505 00:20:54,300 --> 00:20:58,440 I don't think they're manipulating us in some harmful way, 506 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,140 but potentially monitoring our activities, 507 00:21:01,140 --> 00:21:04,467 potentially monitoring the Earth and the ecology. 508 00:21:04,467 --> 00:21:06,967 (tense music) 509 00:21:11,550 --> 00:21:14,970 - I think that what we might be seeing is humanity waking up 510 00:21:14,970 --> 00:21:17,910 to the fact that there is a non-human intelligence 511 00:21:17,910 --> 00:21:18,780 on this planet. 512 00:21:18,780 --> 00:21:20,250 Most people seem to think, 513 00:21:20,250 --> 00:21:22,500 because it's the only thing we've ever seen on television 514 00:21:22,500 --> 00:21:24,420 or our movies about UFOs, 515 00:21:24,420 --> 00:21:27,690 that this is definitely aliens coming from another planet. 516 00:21:27,690 --> 00:21:28,680 But I don't think that a lot 517 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,680 of the public understands actually how wide the scope 518 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,614 of possibilities actually is. 519 00:21:33,614 --> 00:21:36,364 (dramatic music) 520 00:21:37,234 --> 00:21:39,360 - When we think of UAP or UFOs, 521 00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:40,833 we tend to think of the sky, 522 00:21:42,330 --> 00:21:46,080 but in fact, there are sightings in all parts 523 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,470 of the world, including water-based sightings, USOs. 524 00:21:49,470 --> 00:21:52,156 That's unidentified submersible objects. 525 00:21:52,156 --> 00:21:57,156 (waves crashing) (slow music) 526 00:21:57,390 --> 00:22:00,900 - We've had to modify the term UFO, 527 00:22:00,900 --> 00:22:02,700 because in fact, they have what's known 528 00:22:02,700 --> 00:22:04,380 as transmedium properties. 529 00:22:04,380 --> 00:22:08,670 They can seamlessly move from air into water and back again. 530 00:22:08,670 --> 00:22:10,290 They can clearly fly in space. 531 00:22:10,290 --> 00:22:12,660 The Tic Tac UFO came down from space, 532 00:22:12,660 --> 00:22:15,407 descended 80,000 feet in a matter of seconds. 533 00:22:15,407 --> 00:22:18,540 (eerie music) 534 00:22:18,540 --> 00:22:20,430 - You'll recall, when that case came 535 00:22:20,430 --> 00:22:23,010 to public attention from "The New York Times" story, 536 00:22:23,010 --> 00:22:25,740 they had been seeing things going in and out of the water 537 00:22:25,740 --> 00:22:28,860 and flying out from space down to above the ocean 538 00:22:28,860 --> 00:22:30,337 for weeks at a time. 539 00:22:30,337 --> 00:22:32,370 (eerie music) 540 00:22:32,370 --> 00:22:34,170 I mean, there are countless cases 541 00:22:34,170 --> 00:22:37,650 of things that are seen flying into and out of the ocean. 542 00:22:37,650 --> 00:22:40,830 There are, the navies of pretty much every major superpower 543 00:22:40,830 --> 00:22:42,450 in the world have these cases, 544 00:22:42,450 --> 00:22:44,070 pretty dramatic incidents of things 545 00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:45,916 that they have encountered under the water. 546 00:22:45,916 --> 00:22:48,416 (eerie music) 547 00:22:53,820 --> 00:22:56,250 - Mr. Fravor, do you believe 548 00:22:56,250 --> 00:22:59,340 that you witnessed an additional object under the water 549 00:22:59,340 --> 00:23:01,020 in relation to your encounter? 550 00:23:01,020 --> 00:23:03,030 - There was something there to cause the whitewater 551 00:23:03,030 --> 00:23:04,380 and when we turned around it was gone. 552 00:23:04,380 --> 00:23:06,450 So there was something there that obviously moved. 553 00:23:06,450 --> 00:23:11,100 - I spoke to Bob McGwier who's written about UAP and UFOs, 554 00:23:11,100 --> 00:23:14,130 and he reported that he'd been on a Navy submarine 555 00:23:14,130 --> 00:23:16,500 and something flew by 556 00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:18,480 at what he said was the speed of sound, 557 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,730 700 miles an hour underwater, 558 00:23:20,730 --> 00:23:22,890 which seems to be a physical impossibility 559 00:23:22,890 --> 00:23:24,990 given the resistance of water. 560 00:23:24,990 --> 00:23:26,790 He said other people saw it too. 561 00:23:26,790 --> 00:23:27,986 I mean, it's extraordinary. 562 00:23:27,986 --> 00:23:30,736 (dramatic music) 563 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:37,233 - We've only actually explored about 5% of the ocean floor, 564 00:23:38,730 --> 00:23:41,730 and the oceans make up over 70% of our planet. 565 00:23:41,730 --> 00:23:44,190 We're more of a water planet than we are anything else. 566 00:23:44,190 --> 00:23:46,770 So it's not completely out of the question 567 00:23:46,770 --> 00:23:48,780 that something could have evolved 568 00:23:48,780 --> 00:23:51,300 to the point of intelligence under the water 569 00:23:51,300 --> 00:23:52,992 without us knowing about it. 570 00:23:52,992 --> 00:23:55,492 (eerie music) 571 00:24:00,152 --> 00:24:03,485 (eerie music continues) 572 00:24:09,570 --> 00:24:11,970 - The people at the highest level 573 00:24:11,970 --> 00:24:15,540 that I have ever had candid conversations, 574 00:24:15,540 --> 00:24:17,937 they always refer me to the movie "The Abyss," 575 00:24:20,131 --> 00:24:23,310 that there is a presence under the water 576 00:24:23,310 --> 00:24:25,923 and that UAP reside there, 577 00:24:26,820 --> 00:24:27,653 but it makes sense 578 00:24:27,653 --> 00:24:30,420 with how we see their craft being able to operate. 579 00:24:30,420 --> 00:24:33,060 A couple years back, I released a well-known video 580 00:24:33,060 --> 00:24:34,560 of the USS Omaha, 581 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,600 where you see, in the thermal footage, 582 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,790 like an egg shaped UFO 583 00:24:38,790 --> 00:24:41,850 that appears to descend into the water. 584 00:24:41,850 --> 00:24:42,720 - Whoa, a splash. - Splash. 585 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,300 - [Witness] Splashed, mark, bearing, and range. 586 00:24:45,300 --> 00:24:48,330 - This is corroborated by actual reports of people 587 00:24:48,330 --> 00:24:49,320 that were there, 588 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,073 helicopter pilots that saw these UFOs going into the water. 589 00:24:55,050 --> 00:24:58,860 - What I have now seen is that they are of prime importance 590 00:24:58,860 --> 00:25:00,690 to the United States Navy, 591 00:25:00,690 --> 00:25:04,410 which encounters them much more than we realize. 592 00:25:04,410 --> 00:25:07,440 I've gone through a number of these reports. 593 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,960 Some of these things seem to have the ability 594 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,700 to disable aircraft carriers, battle cruisers, 595 00:25:14,700 --> 00:25:17,910 the most powerful, potent things that, 596 00:25:17,910 --> 00:25:19,710 if you're running the United States Navy, 597 00:25:19,710 --> 00:25:21,960 there's nothing more important than your aircraft carrier. 598 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,170 And yet, we have accounts that I consider credible 599 00:25:25,170 --> 00:25:27,780 by ex-Navy people saying, "Oh yes, 600 00:25:27,780 --> 00:25:30,570 for 30 minutes we were unable to engage weapons." 601 00:25:30,570 --> 00:25:33,060 That is your single most important piece 602 00:25:33,060 --> 00:25:35,010 of military equipment in your inventory. 603 00:25:35,010 --> 00:25:36,570 And that thing gets disabled 604 00:25:36,570 --> 00:25:39,900 from an object that came rising out of the water, 605 00:25:39,900 --> 00:25:42,960 a glowing, orange, spherical, whatever, 606 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,210 that's hovering over your ship. 607 00:25:45,210 --> 00:25:50,190 - We observed a very large, hundred yard sided, 608 00:25:50,190 --> 00:25:54,210 red square approach the base from the ocean 609 00:25:54,210 --> 00:25:57,660 and hover at low altitude over one of the launch facilities. 610 00:25:57,660 --> 00:26:00,060 - Put it this way, if you were an alien civilization 611 00:26:00,060 --> 00:26:02,370 and you had a base on Earth, 612 00:26:02,370 --> 00:26:03,330 where would you like it to be, 613 00:26:03,330 --> 00:26:06,570 that we pesky humans don't interfere with you? 614 00:26:06,570 --> 00:26:09,150 - It's a great place to hide if you needed to. 615 00:26:09,150 --> 00:26:12,420 Let's say that you evolved in a solar system 616 00:26:12,420 --> 00:26:16,200 where there were occasionally events in the solar system 617 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,110 that, you know, asteroids that hit your planet 618 00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:22,110 and caused mass destruction. 619 00:26:22,110 --> 00:26:23,310 Where's a good place to go 620 00:26:23,310 --> 00:26:25,890 that it didn't matter where an asteroid hit? 621 00:26:25,890 --> 00:26:27,330 Deep underground. 622 00:26:27,330 --> 00:26:29,460 I mean, go 10 or 12 miles underground, 623 00:26:29,460 --> 00:26:32,714 and it would take a pretty big rock to change things. 624 00:26:32,714 --> 00:26:35,214 (tense music) 625 00:26:36,510 --> 00:26:37,530 - I think, in the future, 626 00:26:37,530 --> 00:26:41,730 that the research of UFO folks will be in the oceans, 627 00:26:41,730 --> 00:26:45,930 because if you talk to folks in upper levels of government, 628 00:26:45,930 --> 00:26:48,420 they're pretty much convinced that there are bases, 629 00:26:48,420 --> 00:26:51,510 that there are enclaves of non-human intelligence 630 00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:53,100 under the ocean waves 631 00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:55,581 and that that is where we're gonna find some answers. 632 00:26:55,581 --> 00:26:58,248 (ominous music) 633 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,090 - [Orson Welles] We interrupt our program of dance music 634 00:27:03,090 --> 00:27:04,200 to bring you a special bulletin, 635 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,780 huge flaming object, believed to be a meteorite, 636 00:27:06,780 --> 00:27:07,980 fell on a farm. 637 00:27:07,980 --> 00:27:10,140 Ladies and gentlemen, I have a grave announcement to make. 638 00:27:10,140 --> 00:27:11,160 Those strange beings 639 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,040 who landed in the Jersey farmlands tonight are the vanguard 640 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,080 of an invading army from the planet Mars. 641 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,190 - Really, since the 1930s with Orson Welles' broadcast, 642 00:27:20,190 --> 00:27:22,230 there's been a lot of concern 643 00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:24,990 that people might freak out about what's happening, 644 00:27:24,990 --> 00:27:27,960 that they might overreact to information 645 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,527 about another presence here on Earth. 646 00:27:29,527 --> 00:27:32,277 (dramatic music) 647 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,793 A lot of people 648 00:27:34,793 --> 00:27:37,260 who have followed my work are somewhat relieved, 649 00:27:37,260 --> 00:27:40,263 because I advocate for the idea that they're us, 650 00:27:40,263 --> 00:27:42,510 that they're coming back from the future to visit 651 00:27:42,510 --> 00:27:45,120 and study their own evolutionary past. 652 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:46,320 - Some people have suggested 653 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,960 that this is maybe even our descendants 654 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,660 or like future humans in the future coming back, 655 00:27:51,660 --> 00:27:55,140 either to study their ancestors to learn more about us 656 00:27:55,140 --> 00:27:56,400 or maybe even to help us 657 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,530 with some problems that we're having 658 00:27:58,530 --> 00:28:00,090 - Across the board, 659 00:28:00,090 --> 00:28:03,150 the recurring pattern is these upright walking, 660 00:28:03,150 --> 00:28:06,630 human-like individuals that are involved in these abductions 661 00:28:06,630 --> 00:28:08,640 and we need to think about that critically. 662 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,400 The fact that they look and act so much like us, 663 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,600 that they can breathe our air, 664 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,430 they can communicate in our languages, 665 00:28:14,430 --> 00:28:17,820 and most importantly, they have evolutionary characteristics 666 00:28:17,820 --> 00:28:20,310 that are exactly what we'd expect to see 667 00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:23,790 in our future if the same dominant trends continue. 668 00:28:23,790 --> 00:28:25,530 So what is the likelihood 669 00:28:25,530 --> 00:28:28,260 that we would get those same physical traits, 670 00:28:28,260 --> 00:28:29,910 these same human traits 671 00:28:29,910 --> 00:28:33,243 in a separate evolutionary trajectory on a different planet? 672 00:28:34,290 --> 00:28:36,990 I think the simplest explanation is that they're us 673 00:28:36,990 --> 00:28:39,660 in our evolutionary future coming back in time 674 00:28:39,660 --> 00:28:41,196 to visit and study their own past. 675 00:28:41,196 --> 00:28:42,450 (dramatic music) 676 00:28:42,450 --> 00:28:45,660 - Now you talk to a physicist, is time travel possible? 677 00:28:45,660 --> 00:28:49,620 You know, I'm past the point in my life where I'm willing 678 00:28:49,620 --> 00:28:51,870 to say, something is absolutely impossible. 679 00:28:51,870 --> 00:28:54,900 I mean, I have been shocked over and over again 680 00:28:54,900 --> 00:28:57,960 by certain things that I once thought were never possible 681 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,330 in this world and have turned out to be entirely possible 682 00:29:00,330 --> 00:29:01,687 and sometimes absolutely real. 683 00:29:01,687 --> 00:29:04,187 (tense music) 684 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,240 - You look at what's happening to the planet now, 685 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,830 we're screwing it up pretty badly. 686 00:29:10,830 --> 00:29:12,960 And you know, there are a lot of climate scientists 687 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,342 who think we've already passed the point of no return. 688 00:29:16,342 --> 00:29:19,009 (intense music) 689 00:29:26,098 --> 00:29:28,980 Throughout the history of the UFO phenomenon, 690 00:29:28,980 --> 00:29:31,110 people have reported having dialogue 691 00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:33,840 with these aliens, wherever they're from. 692 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,970 And the message is always the same. 693 00:29:35,970 --> 00:29:37,590 It's like an alien editorial. 694 00:29:37,590 --> 00:29:38,970 Take care of your planet. 695 00:29:38,970 --> 00:29:41,040 Quit messing around with nuclear weapons. 696 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,750 It suggests that they are interested 697 00:29:42,750 --> 00:29:45,690 in the planet more than they're interested in us, 698 00:29:45,690 --> 00:29:46,711 because they live here. 699 00:29:46,711 --> 00:29:49,378 (intense music) 700 00:29:52,060 --> 00:29:53,250 - If they're extraterrestrial, 701 00:29:53,250 --> 00:29:55,260 we might expect them to kill us, 702 00:29:55,260 --> 00:29:57,390 enslave us, take our resources. 703 00:29:57,390 --> 00:29:59,160 But the fact that we don't see that, 704 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,210 there's some indication 705 00:30:00,210 --> 00:30:01,980 that they're not here to harm us. 706 00:30:01,980 --> 00:30:03,810 They're probably here to study us, 707 00:30:03,810 --> 00:30:06,150 but I don't think we need to be fearful of this presence, 708 00:30:06,150 --> 00:30:09,330 especially if they are our evolutionary descendants. 709 00:30:09,330 --> 00:30:10,803 They're us in the future. 710 00:30:11,700 --> 00:30:14,190 - Everybody has heard extraterrestrial. 711 00:30:14,190 --> 00:30:16,980 They maybe have heard extra temporal, 712 00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:19,710 which means that we're experiencing beings 713 00:30:19,710 --> 00:30:23,520 or craft that are somehow penetrating our timeline 714 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,140 but are from a different timeline. 715 00:30:25,140 --> 00:30:27,480 So now if we're talking about interdimensionals, 716 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:32,130 our observation, what we are physically seeing, 717 00:30:32,130 --> 00:30:34,800 we might not be seeing the full representation 718 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:35,930 of what that is. 719 00:30:35,930 --> 00:30:37,155 (chiming music) 720 00:30:37,155 --> 00:30:39,060 - We have hypothesized in a lot 721 00:30:39,060 --> 00:30:40,560 of our different scientific models 722 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,840 that other dimensions could exist, 723 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,240 and if it was possible to cross between them, 724 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,890 that could explain some of the weirdness 725 00:30:46,890 --> 00:30:49,004 that we're seeing with the UFO phenomenon. 726 00:30:49,004 --> 00:30:50,250 (chiming music) 727 00:30:50,250 --> 00:30:52,890 - I try not to speak over my own head. 728 00:30:52,890 --> 00:30:54,720 As it's been explained to me, 729 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,270 there are other dimensions of reality 730 00:30:57,270 --> 00:31:00,990 that there could be other intelligences living on Earth 731 00:31:00,990 --> 00:31:04,470 that we do not see unless they come into our world. 732 00:31:04,470 --> 00:31:06,810 We can't get from here to there. 733 00:31:06,810 --> 00:31:10,110 But there is indications that they can enter our world 734 00:31:10,110 --> 00:31:12,155 in physical or non-physical forms. 735 00:31:12,155 --> 00:31:14,430 (tense music) 736 00:31:14,430 --> 00:31:15,720 - Again and again and again, 737 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,556 you get these statements coming from people 738 00:31:17,556 --> 00:31:20,010 who have studied it also. 739 00:31:20,010 --> 00:31:23,370 Some of them you could say are insider types. 740 00:31:23,370 --> 00:31:25,650 David Grusch himself made a reference to this 741 00:31:25,650 --> 00:31:27,090 in his speech to Congress, 742 00:31:27,090 --> 00:31:29,010 alluding to this as a possibility. 743 00:31:29,010 --> 00:31:29,850 - You have mentioned 744 00:31:29,850 --> 00:31:32,640 that there's interdimensional potential. 745 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:33,990 Could you expound on that? 746 00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:36,450 - In terms of multidimensionality, 747 00:31:36,450 --> 00:31:39,960 the framework that I'm familiar with, for example, 748 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,930 is something called the holographic principle. 749 00:31:42,930 --> 00:31:45,990 Both, it derives itself from general relativity 750 00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:47,550 and quantum mechanics. 751 00:31:47,550 --> 00:31:51,240 And that is, if you want to imagine 3D objects, 752 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,260 such as yourself, casting a shadow onto a 2D surface, 753 00:31:55,260 --> 00:31:56,820 that's the holographic principle. 754 00:31:56,820 --> 00:31:58,110 So you can be projected, 755 00:31:58,110 --> 00:32:01,106 quasi-projected from higher dimensional space. 756 00:32:01,106 --> 00:32:03,606 (eerie music) 757 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,280 - When you take the deep dive into this phenomena, 758 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,553 you start asking questions about the nature of reality, 759 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:16,890 where we are in the pecking order 760 00:32:16,890 --> 00:32:18,930 and the cosmic order of things. 761 00:32:18,930 --> 00:32:21,450 These are really big questions that really disturb people. 762 00:32:21,450 --> 00:32:23,850 When you really boil it down, 763 00:32:23,850 --> 00:32:25,620 it's profound stuff 764 00:32:25,620 --> 00:32:28,440 that affects us on the most fundamental levels 765 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,670 of who we are as people. 766 00:32:29,670 --> 00:32:34,350 - Part of it depends on what the actual truth is. 767 00:32:34,350 --> 00:32:37,380 What's actually happening? 768 00:32:37,380 --> 00:32:39,213 Is this a good, wonderful thing? 769 00:32:41,340 --> 00:32:45,030 Or is this scary and dark and dangerous? 770 00:32:45,030 --> 00:32:46,710 A lot hinges on that. 771 00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:49,860 - Well, there are some possibilities that are pretty dark. 772 00:32:49,860 --> 00:32:52,770 How do humans react that we are, in fact, 773 00:32:52,770 --> 00:32:54,390 not the rulers of our planet, 774 00:32:54,390 --> 00:32:56,760 that we are way down on the food chain? 775 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,680 If we are an agricultural product, 776 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,360 if they harvest something from us, 777 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,110 if they've modified our genetics, if they are our creators, 778 00:33:04,110 --> 00:33:05,340 how do people react to that? 779 00:33:05,340 --> 00:33:07,920 - It is a strong possibility 780 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,990 that we are some sort of commodity. 781 00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:13,170 We might be unknowing slaves in a way 782 00:33:13,170 --> 00:33:15,810 to serve somebody else's will. 783 00:33:15,810 --> 00:33:18,000 - If it comes out, what it is, 784 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,698 it could be a really dark moment for humanity. 785 00:33:20,698 --> 00:33:23,198 (tense music) 786 00:33:27,943 --> 00:33:28,776 - Look, there's a couple 787 00:33:28,776 --> 00:33:33,060 of reasons why this incredible subject is kept 788 00:33:33,060 --> 00:33:36,210 under wraps the way it has been for, really, 80 years. 789 00:33:36,210 --> 00:33:37,660 There's a human element here. 790 00:33:39,210 --> 00:33:41,490 I was given a story, which I firmly believe, 791 00:33:41,490 --> 00:33:43,200 by a man who was extremely close 792 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,520 to the White House for many years 793 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,830 and very high up in the intelligence community, 794 00:33:46,830 --> 00:33:50,730 who told me of when Jimmy Carter was briefed on this matter. 795 00:33:50,730 --> 00:33:54,780 - Let us create together a new national spirit 796 00:33:54,780 --> 00:33:56,220 of unity and trust. 797 00:33:56,220 --> 00:33:58,860 - This gentleman knows, I would say, very reliably, 798 00:33:58,860 --> 00:34:00,030 that at the end of that briefing, 799 00:34:00,030 --> 00:34:02,940 President Carter was seen nearly sobbing 800 00:34:02,940 --> 00:34:05,880 with his elbows on his desk and his head in his hands. 801 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,740 Something upset him very deeply, 802 00:34:07,740 --> 00:34:10,080 which frankly, makes sense to me. 803 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,940 Because if this is what it appears to be, 804 00:34:11,940 --> 00:34:13,560 you're dealing with the presence 805 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,490 of at least one very advanced species of some sort, 806 00:34:17,490 --> 00:34:19,623 wherever they come from, that's here. 807 00:34:19,623 --> 00:34:22,123 (eerie music) 808 00:34:25,710 --> 00:34:27,960 - I think we're dealing with something far more complicated 809 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,260 and something way more advanced, frankly, than us 810 00:34:31,260 --> 00:34:33,840 and probably almost not understandable by us. 811 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,530 I mean, just look at ChatGPT and AI. 812 00:34:37,530 --> 00:34:39,600 Scientists today are already saying, 813 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,460 we don't understand it. 814 00:34:41,460 --> 00:34:44,310 We don't understand how it's coming to the conclusions 815 00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:45,810 that it's doing and how it's doing it. 816 00:34:45,810 --> 00:34:46,691 And we made it! 817 00:34:46,691 --> 00:34:48,510 - [Reporter[ A warning from Elon Musk 818 00:34:48,510 --> 00:34:51,270 and other tech industry experts about the power 819 00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:52,950 of artificial intelligence, 820 00:34:52,950 --> 00:34:56,670 saying AI poses a dramatic risk to society. 821 00:34:56,670 --> 00:34:57,810 - In the space of two years, 822 00:34:57,810 --> 00:35:02,220 it's gone from Siri to, oh my God, 823 00:35:02,220 --> 00:35:03,720 this is gonna take my job. 824 00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:05,670 Imagine what is gonna be another thousand years 825 00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:06,630 or a million years. 826 00:35:06,630 --> 00:35:09,917 So now imagine another culture that is probably, 827 00:35:09,917 --> 00:35:13,320 at the very least, statistically more likely 828 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,908 to be way more advanced than we are. 829 00:35:14,908 --> 00:35:17,325 (slow music) 830 00:35:20,430 --> 00:35:21,750 - I will tell you something, though, 831 00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:22,953 something that might be, 832 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,670 might be a little bit scary to contemplate. 833 00:35:26,670 --> 00:35:29,520 Think about a gorilla at a zoo, 834 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,623 as my friend Lue Elizondo once said. 835 00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:34,680 That gorilla's been playing in the zoo for, 836 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:35,880 you know, decades now, 837 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,680 hasn't hurt anyone, but it's big. 838 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,554 If it got out, it could harm you. 839 00:35:39,554 --> 00:35:41,670 (tense music) 840 00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:45,060 Now imagine that gorilla found the keys to its cage. 841 00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:47,070 It would spark panic. 842 00:35:47,070 --> 00:35:48,780 Think about that gorilla as humanity. 843 00:35:48,780 --> 00:35:51,476 As a species, look, we're quite scary. 844 00:35:51,476 --> 00:35:53,976 (tense music) 845 00:35:59,610 --> 00:36:00,780 Because of us, 846 00:36:00,780 --> 00:36:03,630 a number of other species on this Earth have gone extinct. 847 00:36:03,630 --> 00:36:06,150 We've created wars. We've killed millions of our own. 848 00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:08,340 We're a war-like species, basically. 849 00:36:08,340 --> 00:36:12,780 Conflict and civilization is what humanity has been defined 850 00:36:12,780 --> 00:36:15,090 by for thousands of years. 851 00:36:15,090 --> 00:36:18,360 So if you're another species out there in the galaxy 852 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,120 and all of a sudden this gorilla, which is humanity, 853 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,820 finds the keys to its cage, let's, for example, 854 00:36:23,820 --> 00:36:26,722 say that the keys represent nuclear technology. 855 00:36:26,722 --> 00:36:29,640 (tense music) 856 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:30,960 Imagine if that happened, 857 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,490 and maybe it's in the interest 858 00:36:32,490 --> 00:36:35,190 of some of these non-human intelligences 859 00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:37,143 that we are put back in our cage. 860 00:36:38,250 --> 00:36:40,020 - I've been pretty far up the food chain 861 00:36:40,020 --> 00:36:42,000 in terms of people in the government 862 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,440 who have studied this stuff, 863 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,390 who've worked in classified programs. 864 00:36:45,390 --> 00:36:48,090 Some of them have gone to some pretty dark places 865 00:36:48,090 --> 00:36:49,320 as a possible motive 866 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,023 for what this non-human intelligence might be up to. 867 00:36:52,023 --> 00:36:54,510 (tense music) 868 00:36:54,510 --> 00:36:56,160 - Think of it from their perspective. 869 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,170 They might be looking at us thinking, 870 00:36:58,170 --> 00:36:59,520 yeah, there's a lot of life out here, 871 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,770 but actually Earth is really a cool place. 872 00:37:01,770 --> 00:37:03,057 I mean, there's planets with life, 873 00:37:03,057 --> 00:37:06,603 but you look at Earth, Earth is a beautiful gem. 874 00:37:07,620 --> 00:37:09,470 You think about all the life we have. 875 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,570 We are bursting with life. 876 00:37:12,570 --> 00:37:14,880 We've got all kinds of genetic diversity everywhere 877 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,410 on this planet, in the oceans, 878 00:37:16,410 --> 00:37:19,980 in lands, in the mountains, in the deserts. 879 00:37:19,980 --> 00:37:23,310 It's incredible, explosion of life. 880 00:37:23,310 --> 00:37:24,660 I've got to think, 881 00:37:24,660 --> 00:37:27,840 planets like Earth are not just a dime a dozen. 882 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,440 I think we have a special place that's worth observation 883 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,287 and maybe worth, shall I say, worth coveting? 884 00:37:34,287 --> 00:37:36,954 (ominous music) 885 00:37:41,233 --> 00:37:46,233 (onlookers shouting) (ominous music) 886 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,360 - One of the theories 887 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,600 that gets bounced around is this galactic zoo idea. 888 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,720 They may just be monitoring us, watching us, studying us, 889 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:56,940 but there's still a hands-off approach 890 00:37:56,940 --> 00:37:59,580 that clearly dominates most of their activities. 891 00:37:59,580 --> 00:38:01,560 - Imagine it like a fishbowl, 892 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,370 that we are kind of captive on this Earth, 893 00:38:05,370 --> 00:38:08,220 and there's others that just enjoy watching us. 894 00:38:08,220 --> 00:38:09,120 Why wouldn't they? 895 00:38:10,050 --> 00:38:13,290 Human beings are fucking fascinating. 896 00:38:13,290 --> 00:38:16,740 So why wouldn't we be a reality show 897 00:38:16,740 --> 00:38:19,740 for the entertainment of some non-human entities? 898 00:38:19,740 --> 00:38:21,780 What we do to each other 899 00:38:21,780 --> 00:38:24,960 and in this world and what we build, it's remarkable. 900 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,320 - When I look at ancient UFO reports 901 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,560 or other types of things that might be considered evidence 902 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,750 for longstanding visitation, 903 00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:36,060 I will agree that there are certain things 904 00:38:36,060 --> 00:38:38,520 that make me think, yeah, hmm, 905 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,350 we might be under observation. 906 00:38:40,350 --> 00:38:42,620 We might've been under observation for quite some time. 907 00:38:42,620 --> 00:38:45,900 (eerie music) 908 00:38:45,900 --> 00:38:48,000 - What happens before the United States 909 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,743 and Great Britain invade Iraq? 910 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,170 We send scouting missions to see what the defenses are 911 00:38:55,170 --> 00:38:56,430 and to get intelligence on them 912 00:38:56,430 --> 00:38:59,250 before the main invasion is launched. 913 00:38:59,250 --> 00:39:00,870 I don't wanna scare people, but look. 914 00:39:00,870 --> 00:39:01,830 I'll tell you that a lot 915 00:39:01,830 --> 00:39:05,220 of the military people have been investigating UAP. 916 00:39:05,220 --> 00:39:09,270 Some of them think this is a possible scenario. 917 00:39:09,270 --> 00:39:12,990 - When I look at the long history of UFO data, 918 00:39:12,990 --> 00:39:13,980 I firmly believe 919 00:39:13,980 --> 00:39:17,760 what we are seeing today is qualitatively different 920 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,010 than anything that's existed in the past. 921 00:39:20,010 --> 00:39:22,279 Why? Because we discovered science. 922 00:39:22,279 --> 00:39:25,252 (chiming music) 923 00:39:25,252 --> 00:39:27,630 - [Jennifer Granholm] So today, we tell the world 924 00:39:27,630 --> 00:39:29,910 that America has achieved 925 00:39:29,910 --> 00:39:32,370 a tremendous scientific breakthrough. 926 00:39:32,370 --> 00:39:34,530 - [Reporter] Scientists have made a major breakthrough 927 00:39:34,530 --> 00:39:36,630 using nuclear fusion. 928 00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:38,070 - Everything is changing 929 00:39:38,070 --> 00:39:40,020 in the most dramatic ways coming forward. 930 00:39:40,020 --> 00:39:41,430 This could be major. 931 00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:43,500 - In the snap of a cosmic finger, 932 00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:47,070 we've gone from a society of horses pulling wooden carts 933 00:39:47,070 --> 00:39:51,150 to where we are today on the verge of an AI revolution. 934 00:39:51,150 --> 00:39:54,540 Nanotech, quantum computing, genetic modification, 935 00:39:54,540 --> 00:39:56,430 transhumanism, good grief. 936 00:39:56,430 --> 00:39:58,050 Where does it stop? 937 00:39:58,050 --> 00:40:00,660 Nuclear weapons and whatever kinds 938 00:40:00,660 --> 00:40:02,550 of crazy weapons we're developing. 939 00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:04,080 - A fundamental threat to the security 940 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,730 of all peoples and all nations, 941 00:40:05,730 --> 00:40:08,343 the spread and use of nuclear weapons. 942 00:40:08,343 --> 00:40:10,843 (tense music) 943 00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:17,010 - [Reporter] Kim Jong Un calls for a mass production 944 00:40:17,010 --> 00:40:18,720 of tactical nuclear weapons. 945 00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:20,370 - [Reporter] Trump discussed the idea 946 00:40:20,370 --> 00:40:23,700 of using a nuclear weapon against North Korea. 947 00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:26,070 - [Barack] Just one nuclear weapon exploded 948 00:40:26,070 --> 00:40:29,220 in a city could kill hundreds of thousands of people, 949 00:40:29,220 --> 00:40:31,952 and it would badly destabilize our very way of life. 950 00:40:31,952 --> 00:40:34,050 (tense music) 951 00:40:34,050 --> 00:40:36,150 - If there is another world war, 952 00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:39,095 this civilization may go under. 953 00:40:39,095 --> 00:40:40,770 (ominous music) 954 00:40:40,770 --> 00:40:42,090 - Do you think for an instant, 955 00:40:42,090 --> 00:40:45,210 if any intelligence is able to monitor us, 956 00:40:45,210 --> 00:40:49,080 that they're not aware that we've just flipped the switch? 957 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,760 Yeah, 'cause that's what we've just done. 958 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,310 - Since the dawn of the nuclear age, 959 00:40:53,310 --> 00:40:56,640 UFOs have appeared over nuclear weapons places, 960 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:57,930 nuclear power plants. 961 00:40:57,930 --> 00:40:59,940 Anything nuclear, they're there. 962 00:40:59,940 --> 00:41:01,440 I went to Russia in the '90s 963 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,180 and brought back these documents 964 00:41:03,180 --> 00:41:04,800 from their Ministry of Defense. 965 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,050 They had an incident in the early 1980s, 966 00:41:07,050 --> 00:41:09,660 an ICBM base in Ukraine. 967 00:41:09,660 --> 00:41:12,900 These missiles are aimed at the United States. 968 00:41:12,900 --> 00:41:14,490 For a four hour period, 969 00:41:14,490 --> 00:41:16,530 UFOs appear over this base, 970 00:41:16,530 --> 00:41:18,150 and after a couple of hours, 971 00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:21,030 suddenly the launch control codes light up. 972 00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:24,060 Somebody entered the launch control codes. 973 00:41:24,060 --> 00:41:25,650 The missiles start firing up. 974 00:41:25,650 --> 00:41:26,640 They are ready to go. 975 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,770 World War III is about to break out. 976 00:41:28,770 --> 00:41:30,333 The Russians cannot stop it. 977 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,090 Suddenly, the UFO goes away. 978 00:41:33,090 --> 00:41:36,690 Poof, it's gone. The system goes back to normal. 979 00:41:36,690 --> 00:41:38,640 And the Russians send in a team. 980 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,110 They take all this stuff apart. 981 00:41:40,110 --> 00:41:41,580 They can't figure out what caused it. 982 00:41:41,580 --> 00:41:44,190 Eventually, they concluded the UFOs did it. 983 00:41:44,190 --> 00:41:46,200 - To me, these are displays of power. 984 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,972 This is to show us that they are in control, not us. 985 00:41:49,972 --> 00:41:52,472 (eerie music) 986 00:41:54,780 --> 00:41:56,850 - If I were a non-human intelligence, 987 00:41:56,850 --> 00:41:58,740 extraterrestrial or whatever, 988 00:41:58,740 --> 00:42:00,840 and I was witnessing what humans have done 989 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,693 to each other over the centuries, I'd be worried. 990 00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:08,280 We're developing spacefaring systems 991 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:13,170 where we can go and extend our inhumanity to other planets. 992 00:42:13,170 --> 00:42:14,252 I'd keep an eye on us. 993 00:42:14,252 --> 00:42:15,810 (eerie music) 994 00:42:15,810 --> 00:42:17,280 - We are not alone. 995 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,800 All possibilities are on the table 996 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,792 until we can rationally exclude them. 997 00:42:22,792 --> 00:42:25,459 (ominous music) 998 00:42:28,110 --> 00:42:30,030 - Why is this happening now? 999 00:42:30,030 --> 00:42:31,680 There could be something looming. 1000 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,640 It may be that they just can't keep this secret any longer. 1001 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,740 It may be that whistleblowers are coming out. 1002 00:42:37,740 --> 00:42:40,890 It may be that the visitors themselves have decided 1003 00:42:40,890 --> 00:42:43,980 that it's time for everyone to know what's going on. 1004 00:42:43,980 --> 00:42:44,933 So why now? 1005 00:42:44,933 --> 00:42:47,520 (tense music) 1006 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,350 I do find it interesting 1007 00:42:49,350 --> 00:42:51,390 that all of this legislation coming out, 1008 00:42:51,390 --> 00:42:53,010 the congressional hearings, 1009 00:42:53,010 --> 00:42:57,270 all of this almost seems to be carrying them along, 1010 00:42:57,270 --> 00:43:00,330 almost as if there's some greater intelligence 1011 00:43:00,330 --> 00:43:02,640 leading this push toward disclosure, 1012 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,000 and that the members of the United States Congress, 1013 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,320 the Senate and the House, 1014 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,970 they're trying to get out ahead of something 1015 00:43:08,970 --> 00:43:10,192 that they know is coming. 1016 00:43:10,192 --> 00:43:12,859 (ominous music) 1017 00:43:14,100 --> 00:43:18,720 - The United States government has always sought to kneecap 1018 00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:21,510 to disable the UFO subject in the public mind. 1019 00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:22,350 And there's a reason, 1020 00:43:22,350 --> 00:43:25,470 because this subject is a problem 1021 00:43:25,470 --> 00:43:27,240 for the national security state. 1022 00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:29,103 It's a problem they can't control. 1023 00:43:30,570 --> 00:43:34,740 So the implications of this hinge 1024 00:43:34,740 --> 00:43:37,140 on what is actually true, 1025 00:43:37,140 --> 00:43:41,100 and our mission as a society, as a civilization, 1026 00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:46,100 and as a species is to find out what is true. 1027 00:43:46,620 --> 00:43:48,810 - It is the central question of human existence. 1028 00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:49,763 Are we alone? 1029 00:43:49,763 --> 00:43:52,263 (eerie music) 1030 00:43:55,020 --> 00:43:58,173 Where are we on the pecking order on the cosmic food chain? 1031 00:43:59,190 --> 00:44:00,750 How could you not be interested in that, 1032 00:44:00,750 --> 00:44:02,883 just for just curiosity's sake? 1033 00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:05,310 - I think the future is bright. 1034 00:44:05,310 --> 00:44:08,640 There's no putting this back in the bag. 1035 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,600 The thing that's unifying to us is transparency, 1036 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:13,830 that we've been lied to. 1037 00:44:13,830 --> 00:44:15,630 Nobody likes being lied to, 1038 00:44:15,630 --> 00:44:20,430 but we have to protect and treat true whistleblowers, 1039 00:44:20,430 --> 00:44:21,630 we need to protect them. 1040 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,190 - To me, this is where the rubber meets the road. 1041 00:44:26,190 --> 00:44:28,260 We're seeing a battle being played out 1042 00:44:28,260 --> 00:44:31,140 with a kind of insurgency, you can say, 1043 00:44:31,140 --> 00:44:33,867 that is trying to get some of this information out. 1044 00:44:33,867 --> 00:44:37,230 And it is up to those people who care about the truth 1045 00:44:37,230 --> 00:44:40,173 to push that truth as hard as they can. 1046 00:44:40,173 --> 00:44:42,673 (tense music) 1047 00:44:44,192 --> 00:44:46,859 (chiming music) 1048 00:44:48,488 --> 00:44:50,040 - [Reporter] A government scientist has alleged 1049 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,100 that the US military is flying recovered UFOs 1050 00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:55,323 at a secret base in the Nevada desert. 1051 00:44:56,340 --> 00:44:57,960 - [Reporter] Bob Lazar says, there are at least nine 1052 00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,610 of the flying saucers being tested 1053 00:44:59,610 --> 00:45:01,533 and that they were not built on Earth. 1054 00:45:02,910 --> 00:45:04,590 - [Reporter] Bob Lazar isn't the only person 1055 00:45:04,590 --> 00:45:05,940 to claim inside knowledge 1056 00:45:05,940 --> 00:45:07,980 of the flying discs at the test site. 1057 00:45:07,980 --> 00:45:10,205 He's just the only person to say so publicly. 1058 00:45:10,205 --> 00:45:11,964 (dramatic music) 1059 00:45:11,964 --> 00:45:14,714 (birds chirping) 1060 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,670 - Hey Bob, what's up, man? Good to see you. 1061 00:45:20,850 --> 00:45:22,890 - Good to see you, Jeremy. 1062 00:45:22,890 --> 00:45:25,470 - Bob Lazar is a renegade. 1063 00:45:25,470 --> 00:45:30,150 He just threw a UFO grenade into public consciousness. Boom! 1064 00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:32,430 Area 51 flying saucers. 1065 00:45:32,430 --> 00:45:34,110 - There's definite proof. 1066 00:45:34,110 --> 00:45:37,770 And we even have articles 1067 00:45:37,770 --> 00:45:39,843 from another world, another system. 1068 00:45:40,710 --> 00:45:42,300 You just can't not tell everyone 1069 00:45:42,300 --> 00:45:45,030 - Reverse engineering, the sports model craft. 1070 00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:47,820 - It's obvious it came from somewhere else, 1071 00:45:47,820 --> 00:45:48,780 other than Earth. 1072 00:45:48,780 --> 00:45:51,780 - I mean, Bob Lazar was the original whistleblower. 1073 00:45:51,780 --> 00:45:55,260 - Talking about contact, physical, 1074 00:45:55,260 --> 00:45:58,800 physical contact and proof of, from another system, 1075 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,140 another planet, another intelligence. 1076 00:46:01,140 --> 00:46:04,470 That's gotta be the biggest event in history, period. 1077 00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:05,670 - [Interviewer] And it's real? 1078 00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:07,800 - And it's real and it's there. 1079 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,490 - Can you fucking believe kind of where we've gotten? 1080 00:46:11,490 --> 00:46:12,330 - No. 1081 00:46:12,330 --> 00:46:15,965 It's like everybody says, I never thought we'd be here, 1082 00:46:15,965 --> 00:46:17,320 but here we are. 1083 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,920 - Yeah, and you're always kind of like warning me. 1084 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,860 I mean, I think it's just 'cause of your experience, 1085 00:46:22,860 --> 00:46:23,693 you know what I mean? 1086 00:46:23,693 --> 00:46:24,720 Of what happened to you. 1087 00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:27,330 But when George and I push these issues forward, 1088 00:46:27,330 --> 00:46:29,910 why is it you're always kind of concerned for us? 1089 00:46:29,910 --> 00:46:31,440 - Well, the concern is warranted. 1090 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,540 Look what's happened in the past. 1091 00:46:33,540 --> 00:46:37,290 So I mean really, who knows? 1092 00:46:37,290 --> 00:46:41,370 Who knows how badly they really wanna keep this secret? 1093 00:46:41,370 --> 00:46:44,160 Who knows who's in charge of keeping it secret? 1094 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,210 Well, the government hasn't voluntarily come up 1095 00:46:48,210 --> 00:46:49,740 with this information. 1096 00:46:49,740 --> 00:46:52,470 It's only because they've had their arms twisted. 1097 00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:55,020 It's never a safe thing to play around 1098 00:46:55,020 --> 00:46:56,640 with information like that. 1099 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:57,660 - I mean, with George and me, 1100 00:46:57,660 --> 00:46:58,740 I mean, you know, look, 1101 00:46:58,740 --> 00:47:00,124 first of all, it's your fault. 1102 00:47:00,124 --> 00:47:00,993 I'm gonna, (laughs) 1103 00:47:00,993 --> 00:47:03,420 I'm gonna blame it on, - It's not my fault. 1104 00:47:03,420 --> 00:47:06,450 - George Knapp would never have been into the UFO thing. 1105 00:47:06,450 --> 00:47:09,807 And also me, if you had not come forward, 1106 00:47:09,807 --> 00:47:11,580 and we wouldn't be here today 1107 00:47:11,580 --> 00:47:14,040 if it wasn't for what you did. 1108 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,600 That's just a fact. 1109 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,190 - Well, maybe, I mean, 1110 00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:19,800 it might have come out in other ways. 1111 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,290 It might have just come out over time. 1112 00:47:22,290 --> 00:47:24,210 Other people may have leaked it, so. 1113 00:47:24,210 --> 00:47:26,640 - Whenever you warn me about, like, Jeremy, 1114 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,200 I don't know if you should put that out. 1115 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,420 I don't know if you and George should report on that. 1116 00:47:30,420 --> 00:47:32,970 It's like the kettle calling the pot black, man, 1117 00:47:32,970 --> 00:47:33,930 because you're the one 1118 00:47:33,930 --> 00:47:36,330 that originally threw the UFO grenade. 1119 00:47:36,330 --> 00:47:39,630 - Yeah, maybe so. (laughs) Maybe so. 1120 00:47:39,630 --> 00:47:42,090 But I don't want you guys to go through that stuff. 1121 00:47:42,090 --> 00:47:45,210 Just be careful. Don't step on the wrong toes. 1122 00:47:45,210 --> 00:47:47,370 - You see what's happened in the world. 1123 00:47:47,370 --> 00:47:48,390 You see, I mean, 1124 00:47:48,390 --> 00:47:51,000 what do you think of like David Grusch coming forward? 1125 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,480 - That's dynamite. I mean, it really is. 1126 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,140 I can only hope that some more people come out. 1127 00:47:58,140 --> 00:48:00,090 - Would you talk in front of Congress? 1128 00:48:00,090 --> 00:48:01,140 If I set that up, 1129 00:48:01,140 --> 00:48:03,090 would you give your testimony 1130 00:48:03,090 --> 00:48:05,190 under those same circumstances under oath? 1131 00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:06,990 Would you throw down one last time? 1132 00:48:06,990 --> 00:48:08,970 - I fought the fight for 30 years, 1133 00:48:08,970 --> 00:48:10,830 and I'm kind of happy the way it is now. 1134 00:48:10,830 --> 00:48:13,050 The last thing I wanna do is stir the pot again. 1135 00:48:13,050 --> 00:48:14,910 - Yeah. - So I can say, 1136 00:48:14,910 --> 00:48:18,840 I can say under oath, everything I said before is true 1137 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,060 and that's all there is to it. 1138 00:48:21,060 --> 00:48:21,960 - You've said before, 1139 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,870 it's a crime against the scientific community, 1140 00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:26,430 a crime against human beings 1141 00:48:26,430 --> 00:48:29,010 to not have the basics out about this. 1142 00:48:29,010 --> 00:48:30,660 What would you like to see happen? 1143 00:48:30,660 --> 00:48:32,280 Or what's the best case scenario? 1144 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,520 Like, could this secret be told openly? 1145 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,020 - It's a difficult question, 1146 00:48:37,020 --> 00:48:38,490 because I understand 1147 00:48:38,490 --> 00:48:40,560 the national security implications of it. 1148 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,340 There's valuable information potentially to be gained 1149 00:48:44,340 --> 00:48:49,340 that really could change the direction of a country. 1150 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,240 And so how do you get that out 1151 00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:55,590 into free discussion between scientists, 1152 00:48:55,590 --> 00:48:59,250 and yet, keep it undercover, 1153 00:48:59,250 --> 00:49:02,490 so the valuable information doesn't get to other countries? 1154 00:49:02,490 --> 00:49:03,930 It's very difficult. 1155 00:49:03,930 --> 00:49:06,360 Every other project, it seems, 1156 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,330 that the government has worked on, has leaked. 1157 00:49:09,330 --> 00:49:12,090 And this is potentially, 1158 00:49:12,090 --> 00:49:14,820 you know, world conquering information, 1159 00:49:14,820 --> 00:49:17,640 technology that can change the course of mankind. 1160 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,910 But you could at least admit the one thing 1161 00:49:20,910 --> 00:49:22,800 that we kind of agree on at this point, 1162 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,413 that there is another civilization visiting us. 1163 00:49:26,460 --> 00:49:28,680 At least come to grips with that. 1164 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,180 - It's like there's a lot of theories of like 1165 00:49:30,180 --> 00:49:31,830 where these people are from 1166 00:49:31,830 --> 00:49:33,810 or where this technology's from. 1167 00:49:33,810 --> 00:49:37,290 But it sounds, like from your experience, it is clear 1168 00:49:37,290 --> 00:49:39,180 that whoever's operating these craft, 1169 00:49:39,180 --> 00:49:42,750 or the one that you got to see, that they were from another, 1170 00:49:42,750 --> 00:49:45,090 or at least the craft was able to travel 1171 00:49:45,090 --> 00:49:46,560 amongst solar system. 1172 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,033 - Well, more than that. 1173 00:49:49,033 --> 00:49:51,840 It, I mean, because it utilized gravity, 1174 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,060 it actually distorts time. 1175 00:49:54,060 --> 00:49:59,060 So it can travel more than just out of the solar system, 1176 00:49:59,310 --> 00:50:01,890 and you know, there's no guarantee 1177 00:50:01,890 --> 00:50:04,470 that these were aliens from another planet. 1178 00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:06,750 I've heard people throw out theories 1179 00:50:06,750 --> 00:50:10,110 that it's just us from the future coming back to visit. 1180 00:50:10,110 --> 00:50:11,793 I can't discount anything like that. 1181 00:50:11,793 --> 00:50:13,770 That could easily be true. 1182 00:50:13,770 --> 00:50:17,220 So whether this is people from another dimension, 1183 00:50:17,220 --> 00:50:18,720 us from the future, 1184 00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:21,120 or creatures from a distant star system, 1185 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,250 that all remains to be seen. 1186 00:50:23,250 --> 00:50:24,083 - Yeah. 1187 00:50:25,070 --> 00:50:27,320 Is there anything you're not telling me, Bob? 1188 00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:29,063 - Of course. 1189 00:50:29,063 --> 00:50:31,585 (Jeremy laughing) 1190 00:50:31,585 --> 00:50:34,085 (tense music) 1191 00:50:36,030 --> 00:50:38,760 - On a personal note, I appreciate it, man. 1192 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,640 And I just gotta say, man, you've really endured a lot. 1193 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,560 Again, whether people believe you or not, 1194 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:44,520 we've become friends, 1195 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,050 and as a friend, just thank you 1196 00:50:46,050 --> 00:50:47,760 for encouraging me along the way, 1197 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,220 because you know, I am fascinated with this, man. 1198 00:50:50,220 --> 00:50:52,110 I don't know if we'll ever get to ground truth 1199 00:50:52,110 --> 00:50:53,250 on this stuff, 1200 00:50:53,250 --> 00:50:56,400 but I do know that people are coming forward 1201 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,890 who have direct firsthand knowledge of working on these. 1202 00:50:58,890 --> 00:51:00,930 What else could we ask for, man? 1203 00:51:00,930 --> 00:51:02,970 I mean, you would be completely validated. 1204 00:51:02,970 --> 00:51:04,230 - That's it. I think it's coming. 1205 00:51:04,230 --> 00:51:07,020 I mean, it just seems to be going in that direction. 1206 00:51:07,020 --> 00:51:09,720 And as far as you and George just doing your job, 1207 00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:11,220 there's plenty of people in prison 1208 00:51:11,220 --> 00:51:13,293 that were just doing their jobs. 1209 00:51:15,833 --> 00:51:18,583 (dramatic music) 1210 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,170 - This story is never going away, Bob. 1211 00:51:25,170 --> 00:51:27,540 You're always gonna be the touchstone for people, 1212 00:51:27,540 --> 00:51:29,850 as you were one of the first people to come forward 1213 00:51:29,850 --> 00:51:33,210 and just put it all on the line, unwillingly, I understand, 1214 00:51:33,210 --> 00:51:35,070 but you did that, so it's never going away. 1215 00:51:35,070 --> 00:51:36,990 So even though it's small to you, 1216 00:51:36,990 --> 00:51:40,170 it's big to other people when you just take a moment 1217 00:51:40,170 --> 00:51:41,490 and talk to us about it like this. 1218 00:51:41,490 --> 00:51:43,800 So thanks again, man. I appreciate it. 1219 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:44,760 - Well, no problem. 1220 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,010 I mean, I do want this stuff to come out, 1221 00:51:47,010 --> 00:51:49,770 but I don't know, if the mood takes me, 1222 00:51:49,770 --> 00:51:51,270 I may come out fighting again. 1223 00:51:53,042 --> 00:51:55,792 (dramatic music) 1224 00:52:00,216 --> 00:52:03,799 (dramatic music continues) 1225 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,813 - I'm gonna keep doing what I have been doing. 1226 00:52:10,830 --> 00:52:12,243 I'm going to investigate. 1227 00:52:13,830 --> 00:52:15,300 I'm going to record. 1228 00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:16,593 I'm going to document. 1229 00:52:17,970 --> 00:52:21,873 I get to provide the public with new videos, new photos, 1230 00:52:23,550 --> 00:52:25,260 and I'm gonna keep doing it, man. 1231 00:52:25,260 --> 00:52:27,540 There's nothing that can stop me 1232 00:52:27,540 --> 00:52:30,303 from continuing on this path unless I cease to exist. 1233 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,480 I am fighting for what is just and right and true. 1234 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,350 Now we have pit bulls within DC that are going after this. 1235 00:52:40,350 --> 00:52:41,550 They're going after the truth. 1236 00:52:41,550 --> 00:52:43,800 - [Reporter] Senate majority leader, Chuck Schumer, 1237 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,660 is working to introduce a bill 1238 00:52:45,660 --> 00:52:49,020 that could let Americans finally see hard evidence 1239 00:52:49,020 --> 00:52:50,820 of real UFOs. 1240 00:52:50,820 --> 00:52:53,310 - I'm pleased the NDAA will include my amendment 1241 00:52:53,310 --> 00:52:56,310 on increasing transparency on UAPs. 1242 00:52:56,310 --> 00:53:00,330 - Do you think Chuck Schumer would put forward an amendment 1243 00:53:00,330 --> 00:53:02,880 about UAPs and disclosure 1244 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,890 if he didn't think that there was something behind it? 1245 00:53:04,890 --> 00:53:08,040 I mean, how much more proof does anybody need than the fact 1246 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,670 that you've got senators, the Head of the Senate, 1247 00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:15,180 where you've got their presidential candidate, Biden, 1248 00:53:15,180 --> 00:53:18,120 running for president, putting the reputation 1249 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:22,530 of the entire Senate at risk with the upcoming election. 1250 00:53:22,530 --> 00:53:23,363 Do you think that they would do that 1251 00:53:23,363 --> 00:53:25,080 if they didn't know there was something behind it? 1252 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,390 I mean, just, just read the tea leaves. 1253 00:53:27,390 --> 00:53:29,850 I mean, I don't know how much more one needs. 1254 00:53:29,850 --> 00:53:32,350 (eerie music) 1255 00:53:36,420 --> 00:53:39,300 - We've just heard that two key provisions were killed 1256 00:53:39,300 --> 00:53:40,680 from this defense bill 1257 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,050 that basically water down the requirement 1258 00:53:43,050 --> 00:53:46,740 to make public any information about spacecraft, 1259 00:53:46,740 --> 00:53:48,060 about alien remains. 1260 00:53:48,060 --> 00:53:49,680 I take it, you're disappointed. 1261 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,380 - What we're witnessing right now is, quite frankly, 1262 00:53:52,380 --> 00:53:55,500 the greatest legislative failure in American history. 1263 00:53:55,500 --> 00:53:57,550 You know, you had a very strong amendment 1264 00:53:58,530 --> 00:54:00,960 for government transparency on this issue. 1265 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,930 - I wish that this process was simple. 1266 00:54:03,930 --> 00:54:05,580 There's a lot of pressure being put 1267 00:54:05,580 --> 00:54:07,920 on the Schumer Rounds amendment. 1268 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,130 The thing is, is that it just doesn't happen like that, 1269 00:54:11,130 --> 00:54:12,656 in my world 1270 00:54:12,656 --> 00:54:14,250 It's inch by inch. 1271 00:54:14,250 --> 00:54:17,430 - Congress has failed to legislate appropriately. 1272 00:54:17,430 --> 00:54:19,770 I mean, total failure. 1273 00:54:19,770 --> 00:54:21,720 - I know it can be frustrating to people, 1274 00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:26,670 but from the public perspective, people think, all now, 1275 00:54:26,670 --> 00:54:28,230 all at once. 1276 00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:30,720 This disclosure process, whatever, 1277 00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:31,890 if you wanna call it that, 1278 00:54:31,890 --> 00:54:33,720 it's more of a confirmation process. 1279 00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:34,980 It's step by step. 1280 00:54:34,980 --> 00:54:38,670 So you see things like David Grusch on Joe Rogan. 1281 00:54:38,670 --> 00:54:40,500 That was huge. 1282 00:54:40,500 --> 00:54:43,020 - Are we alone? Well, the answer is we're not alone. 1283 00:54:43,020 --> 00:54:46,290 And I know that with 100% certainty, 1284 00:54:46,290 --> 00:54:48,840 which as an intel officer, you never say 100%. 1285 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,000 But I talked to the highest 1286 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,880 of the high people you could possibly talk to. 1287 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:54,713 Catch my drift. 1288 00:54:54,713 --> 00:54:57,300 - Just that that conversation is being had 1289 00:54:57,300 --> 00:54:59,430 on a mass and global scale, 1290 00:54:59,430 --> 00:55:02,070 he has expanded the conversation. 1291 00:55:02,070 --> 00:55:05,280 As long as we keep having this discussion 1292 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,820 and people do keep coming forward, 1293 00:55:08,820 --> 00:55:11,633 which I am more than certain will continue happening, 1294 00:55:11,633 --> 00:55:14,490 I mean, I have recorded sessions with people 1295 00:55:14,490 --> 00:55:16,380 who are not known to the public. 1296 00:55:16,380 --> 00:55:18,570 So I can be the akashic record 1297 00:55:18,570 --> 00:55:21,960 of their entire experiences in working in these agencies, 1298 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,920 because I'm the key person that they'll go to first 1299 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,820 and get advice of how they can safely convey information. 1300 00:55:29,820 --> 00:55:31,173 All right. Let's do this. 1301 00:55:32,190 --> 00:55:34,830 - Jeremy was a pain in the ass is what Jeremy was. 1302 00:55:34,830 --> 00:55:36,570 He called me for, I guess, 1303 00:55:36,570 --> 00:55:38,550 something like two years trying to get through to me. 1304 00:55:38,550 --> 00:55:40,920 He's full of energy and enthusiasm. 1305 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,380 I suspect that, if Jeremy hadn't come along, 1306 00:55:43,380 --> 00:55:45,240 I might've been retired from this already. 1307 00:55:45,240 --> 00:55:48,960 - We are trying to push as far as we can legally right now, 1308 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,160 - Without going to jail. 1309 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,290 He's made it a lot of fun. 1310 00:55:52,290 --> 00:55:54,300 We've had a lot of fun with "Weaponized." 1311 00:55:54,300 --> 00:55:56,190 We've broken some pretty good stories. 1312 00:55:56,190 --> 00:55:58,680 We've got to meet a whole bunch of people. 1313 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,090 The strength of him is 1314 00:56:00,090 --> 00:56:02,670 that I don't think people realize how hard he works, 1315 00:56:02,670 --> 00:56:04,350 hours and hours every day, 1316 00:56:04,350 --> 00:56:06,480 on the phone and doing emails 1317 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,840 and encrypted messages, taking in information, 1318 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,053 trying to protect sources, making contacts with people. 1319 00:56:13,053 --> 00:56:14,640 - What a guy, right? 1320 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:15,473 Cheers. 1321 00:56:16,388 --> 00:56:19,500 - I talk to him almost every day. We email all the time. 1322 00:56:19,500 --> 00:56:21,570 We've got to know each other's families. 1323 00:56:21,570 --> 00:56:23,670 We are friends for real. 1324 00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:25,170 It's not an act, 1325 00:56:25,170 --> 00:56:27,390 and I trust him and he trusts me. 1326 00:56:27,390 --> 00:56:30,600 And it's been a very productive friendship so far, 1327 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,520 and we've got a ways to go. 1328 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,640 - Being able to do this kind of work with George 1329 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:36,900 and have so much fun and do this, 1330 00:56:36,900 --> 00:56:40,200 like, man, let's ride this shit till the wheels fall off. 1331 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,390 Like, what a blast, man. 1332 00:56:42,390 --> 00:56:44,490 - There's a lot of work still to be done on this topic. 1333 00:56:44,490 --> 00:56:45,810 I'm not gonna do it forever, 1334 00:56:45,810 --> 00:56:47,970 but I feel like it's in good hands with Jeremy 1335 00:56:47,970 --> 00:56:50,377 to carry on the work that I started a long time ago. 1336 00:56:50,377 --> 00:56:53,127 (dramatic music) 1337 00:56:55,650 --> 00:56:59,850 - We are living in a time of revolution. 1338 00:56:59,850 --> 00:57:02,070 You can't just passively sit there 1339 00:57:02,070 --> 00:57:04,830 in life like you deserve everything to be handed to you. 1340 00:57:04,830 --> 00:57:07,200 The person that deserves something is the person 1341 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,700 that fights for something, 1342 00:57:08,700 --> 00:57:10,860 the person that is tenacious, 1343 00:57:10,860 --> 00:57:12,720 the person that is curious. 1344 00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:15,060 We are on the cusp of a question 1345 00:57:15,060 --> 00:57:17,460 that has kind of burdened human consciousness 1346 00:57:17,460 --> 00:57:18,483 since the beginning. 1347 00:57:20,100 --> 00:57:21,145 Are we alone? 1348 00:57:21,145 --> 00:57:23,895 (dramatic music) 1349 00:57:26,250 --> 00:57:28,017 Just in general, are we alone? 1350 00:57:28,017 --> 00:57:31,500 (dramatic music) 1351 00:57:31,500 --> 00:57:34,620 We are now on the cusp of answering that question. 1352 00:57:34,620 --> 00:57:37,440 This coverup, and it is a coverup, 1353 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,560 it has harmed people having to keep this secret. 1354 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,330 You have been lied to. 1355 00:57:42,330 --> 00:57:44,520 The only way that we're gonna be able 1356 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,920 to break through this is to protect those 1357 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,090 that are coming forward. 1358 00:57:48,090 --> 00:57:52,680 People have gone and fought to get this information out, 1359 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,680 and I don't know where we're gonna land. 1360 00:57:57,540 --> 00:57:59,013 It's gonna be a fight. 1361 00:58:00,450 --> 00:58:01,626 There's no stopping now. 1362 00:58:01,626 --> 00:58:04,126 (tense music) 1363 00:58:07,873 --> 00:58:10,540 (ominous music) 1364 00:58:17,882 --> 00:58:21,382 (ominous music continues) 1365 00:58:27,620 --> 00:58:31,120 (ominous music continues) 1366 00:58:37,762 --> 00:58:41,292 (percussive theme music) 1367 00:58:41,292 --> 00:58:44,292 (eerie theme music) 1368 00:58:45,505 --> 00:58:48,588 (gentle theme music) 105323

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