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...- Well, of course.
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I mean, because the current
system at the end of the day,
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what we have right
now doesn't do enough
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to protect children.
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Food coloring,
artificial color, food dye,
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artificial dye,
synthetic food dye.
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Not all that exciting, huh?
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Why would anyone choose
to watch a documentary
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about such a seemingly
pointless topic?
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If you're feeling
skeptical, you're not alone.
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I, for one never in my
wildest dreams imagined this
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even being a topic
of conversation,
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much less the theme of my
first ever documentary.
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Synthetic dyes at a glance
seem fairly innocent,
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and though they may
be pretty obvious
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and brightly colored junk food,
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they often hide in places
you wouldn't think about.
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Like white foods, brown foods,
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medications, and sports drinks.
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Heck, that bag of popcorn
you're munching on right now,
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well, you get the picture.
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The unavoidable fact
that they're in so much
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of our food supply is one thing,
but the dirty little secret
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of what these chemicals are
doing to our body is another.
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And something I was
completely oblivious to.
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It's not as though the
information wasn't out there.
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It's been a topic of discussion
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and concern for decades.
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I suppose it was just
never part of my narrative,
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so it seemed insignificant.
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A new focus tonight
on the effects
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of artificial food colors.
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They're in most
everything you eat,
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helping to make them look
vibrant and appealing.
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In the United States, the
approval of the amount of dyes
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that are used in food has
quadrupled in recent years.
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Dyes that some doctors
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and parents say can affect
your children's behavior.
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You see
that fellow right there,
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the one immersed in
the editing process
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amongst his impressive Back
to The Future collection.
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Well, that's me.
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And for the past two years
I've been passionately working
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on this film.
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In all honesty, I probably
had no business taking
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on this endeavor.
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By trade, I'm an
advertising photographer
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and cinematographer
whose experience
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in creating actual films
is limited to a music video
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about my city and an
eight minute short film
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about a time traveling couch
potato with a magic watch.
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Had I known what was involved
in taking on a project
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of this magnitude, this
film may not exist.
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But alas, they say ignorance
is bliss and conviction
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is a pretty strong motivator.
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How did I arrive at this
conviction you may ask.
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Well, that's where
this story begins.
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And let me clarify.
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This story doesn't start
with me. It starts with her.
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At the heart of this film
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is a mother's
unwavering commitment
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to her children's wellbeing
despite the obstacles
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in her path.
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That mother is my wife, Whitney.
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You ready?
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- Yeah.
- Okay.
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One plus one is two.
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If you were to look
at our son today,
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you would never guess that
he faced any challenges.
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You would see a child
that is smart and sweet,
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he's compassionate and kind.
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He's a bundle of virtues,
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and he is everything you
would want in a child.
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And I feel very fortunate
that God made me his mama.
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Atreyu was a bit of a puzzle
between ages one and three.
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We were getting some
really concerning reports
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from his Sunday school
teachers and his teachers,
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and it was just starting
to feel like a series
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of like gut punches.
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He was really struggling
to control his emotions,
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and to keep his
hands to himself.
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And so we were constantly
doing this balancing act
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between is this normal
toddler behavior
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or is there something wrong?
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So the real puzzle was
trying to figure out
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why some days ended in
multiple phone calls,
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several writeups, just these
really big emotional meltdowns
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that we as a family
had to recover from.
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And then other days were
surprisingly serene.
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Like you could talk
him through situations,
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whereas some days you couldn't
reason with him at all.
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So as his mom, I was really
determined to help him.
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I'd devoured every
parenting book
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and podcast I could
get my hands on.
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We consulted doctors
and therapists,
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but nothing seemed
like it was helping.
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And it was at that point that
we were really at a juncture,
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something had to change.
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So the only change
that I could think
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of at this point was his diet.
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So I started doing some
research, searching for foods
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that could cause behavioral
issues in children.
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And I came across an article
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that suggested
eliminating wheat, dairy,
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and synthetic dyes.
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This was a 30 day
elimination diet,
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and we started reading labels
and we eliminated wheat, dairy
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and synthetic dyes.
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48 hours later, we quite
literally had a different child.
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Hey mama.
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Those good days,
those like glimpses
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of a really easy
going, kind, calm,
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easy to reason with child,
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that was a child that we
had for 30 days straight.
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After the 30 days we
reintroduced wheat
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and we saw no effect.
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We reintroduced the dairy
and we saw no effect.
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And then we reintroduced
synthetic dyes,
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and within 15 minutes all
the behaviors we were seeing
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before the elimination
diet came flooding back.
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So we were pretty surprised
because the only place
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that he was really regularly
getting synthetic dyes
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were through his
allergy medicine
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and the occasional prescription
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or over-the-counter medication
that we were giving him.
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And so we were really shocked
that something so small,
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and such a small amount of
something could dramatically
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impact his behavior.
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And so we quite literally
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have not touched
synthetic dyes since.
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I think the world needs to
know that the best science
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that we have shows that
dyes can harm children.
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In terms of the kind of
harm that dyes can do,
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its effects on neuro behavior,
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effects on attention
activity, restlessness.
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And also some studies have
shown effects on sleeplessness,
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irritability, and aggression.
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So there are nine
synthetic color additives
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that are approved
for use in food.
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There are others that
can be used in cosmetics,
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and they are blue 1,
blue 2, citrus red 2,
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green 3, orange
b, red 3, red 40,
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yellow 5 and yellow 6.
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Because of the way
that they're made,
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some contain compounds that
we know are carcinogenic,
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or cancer-causing compounds.
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Also, we know red 3 and
yellow 5 can be genotoxic,
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which means that they
directly cause DNA damage,
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that can potentially
lead to a tumor
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or something that's passed
from parent to child.
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The synthetic dyes
were first to introduced
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the United States way
back in the middle
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of the 19th century
over 160 years ago.
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The FDA first began to
regulate them at the beginning
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of the 20th century around 1906.
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By the 1920's, we
had begun to see
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the first publicly
published worries
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that food was somehow related
to child behavior problems.
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And then in the 1970's we
had a major interest in it
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generated by Dr. Feingold's
claims that food dyes
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and additives and salicylates
are affecting hyperactivity.
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He thought that
synthetic food dyes
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were causing adverse
behavioral effects.
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This was just based on
his own observations,
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but it really
created a firestorm,
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and studies started to be done
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and the studies were done over
the years, over the years.
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And now here we are,
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and we now know that
Benjamin Feingold was right.
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So for a long time I
was really apprehensive
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about sharing our story,
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not really out of
self-preservation,
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but I really felt like
our story was kind of hard
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to believe, but I
decided to be brave
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and I started sharing our
story with friends and family.
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And I was really surprised
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because not only did
people believe me,
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but they started
sharing their stories,
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or their cousin's stories
or their friend's stories.
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And so I wanted to create a
space for families like ours
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to come together
and help each other.
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So I started a Facebook
group and it really blew up.
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As the Facebook group
grew, it made me realize
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just how common these
kinds of reactions are,
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which in turn started to
create some anger in me.
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And I became really
angry that children,
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and maybe even
adults were suffering
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and they had no idea
that the culprit
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of their suffering could be
something like synthetic dyes.
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So I became really obsessed
with synthetic dyes.
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What are synthetic dyes?
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What are they doing
to our bodies?
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Does it go beyond
neurologic issues?
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And so I really started digging
deep into research articles,
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and I was trying to decode
this scientific jargon.
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I'm college educated,
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but I still found myself
being really overwhelmed
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and I had a lot of questions.
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So I really wanted to speak to
these researchers in person.
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So I asked Brandon
if he'd be willing
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to document our journey,
and it took some convincing,
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but obviously you're
watching a documentary.
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So he agreed.
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And just like that,
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we were in the
documentary business.
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This adventure would take
us across the country,
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and eventually overseas
in pursuit of the truth
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behind the effects
of synthetic dyes.
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But it had to start somewhere.
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With no prior credibility and
armed only with the vision,
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we managed to convince
Dr. Rebecca Bevans,
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renowned professor
of psychology,
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known for her TEDx
talk on synthetic dyes,
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captivating audiences with
over 300,000 views on YouTube,
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and a staggering 10
million views across TikTok
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to sit down with us
for an interview.
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Little did we know this
interview would be the catalyst
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that snowballed the
rest of our film.
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- Hi.
- Hi, how are you?
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- This is so crazy.
- I know, right?
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You've
got this girl!
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Alex was a super sweet baby.
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He was easygoing,
just a really gentle,
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really fun, super happy kid.
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As he started getting older,
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he was definitely an
energetic little guy.
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He was go, go, go, go, go.
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He was just all over the place,
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into everything, super curious.
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And the older he got, the
more intense kind of he got.
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When he went off
to kindergarten,
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his teacher on the second
week tried to tell me
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that he had ADHD.
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And his doctor, you know,
refused to assess him for ADHD.
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He said, he's just a really
brilliant little kid,
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and he'll settle into school.
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And so he did, he settled
into kindergarten,
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He did all right.
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First grade, he had
an amazing teacher
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who kept him busy, giving
him work from grades ahead
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and there wasn't a lot
of behavioral problems,
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but the behavioral problems
really, really started
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when he was in second grade.
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We started to see the
inability to focus,
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and to pay attention and to
get along with other kids
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and to get along
with the instructor.
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And he would just get
up out of his chair,
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and get back down in his chair
and get up out of his chair
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and get back down on his chair.
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So I kept asking him,
you know, come on bud,
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let's just focus, just
focus and get this done.
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And he says to me, I
can't. I can't focus mom.
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My brain buzzes.
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And I was like, okay,
what do you mean?
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He goes, it's just buzzes.
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And I was really grateful
that he could articulate that.
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My PhD is in cognitive
neuroscience,
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brains aren't supposed to buzz.
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So I started down the
Google rabbit hole
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of looking for all the
information on brain buzzing.
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And I found a blog, and
it was a 15-year-old
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who was talking about
how when she ate red 40,
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her brain buzzed.
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I was like, all right, this
is the only thing I got going,
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let's give this a shot.
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We pulled all the
red 40 from his diet
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which was rough at first, but
we noticed within a week or so
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that the brain buzzing
wasn't there anymore,
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and the other ADHD
type behaviors.
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So we waited until
there was winter break,
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we pulled it out, he
went back to school.
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Not a totally different
kid, but a different kid.
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It was much easier for him.
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In hindsight, I don't know
why we thought it was okay
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to give him other colors.
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Most of the time
there is a correlation
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between red 40
and hyperactivity.
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So we thought, okay, fine,
red 40 was the problem,
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and we didn't think about
yellow, and green and blue.
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So he switched from his
favorite candy being red
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to his favorite
candies being yellow.
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Now towards the end
of second grade,
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he was having these
emotional meltdowns.
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Once a month he
would throw a fit.
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And then it was like once a
week he would throw a fit.
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And I'm talking, hey bud, can
you turn off the television?
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We got to eat.
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And he would have a meltdown.
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He would cry and
he would scream,
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and he would scratch at himself
or he'd pull his shirts.
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He would just have this
little rage reaction.
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So we get him
through second grade,
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and then we go on vacation
and we go to Hawaii.
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We're eating shaved ice
once to twice a day,
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and he would get the yellow.
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So he went from having
a meltdown a week,
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to a meltdown a day to
three meltdowns a day,
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to just almost a constant.
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By the time we got
home, it was really bad.
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And that's when...
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And it's still hard
for me to talk about.
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We were in his room and
he is sitting on his bed,
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and he was just screaming
and he was like,
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I just need you to get me a
knife so I can kill myself.
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To look at a 7-year-old
who just wants to die,
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I was like, oh my God, if
he continues like this,
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he won't make it to
his teenage years.
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In the middle of
the last century,
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there was sort of
this growing concern
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about harmful
chemicals in our food
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due to a variety of factors.
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And so this and sort of
mounting public pressure
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led Congress to
pass two amendments
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to the Federal Food,
Drug and Cosmetic Act.
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The first one passed in 1958,
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and that was the Food
Additive Amendment.
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And the second passed in 1960,
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and that was the Color
Additive Amendment.
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And basically those
two laws require
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that new food chemicals
be approved by FDA
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before they went
into the market.
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As a result of the Color
Additive Amendment,
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many color additives that were
in use at that point in 1960
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are no longer in use today.
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So there was some recognition,
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and there has been
recognition since
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that the color additives
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that were in use
were no longer safe.
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And so in the process of trying
to regulate color additives,
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manufacturers of food
dyes have to send a sample
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of every batch of color
that they produce to FDA.
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And as far as I know, those
are the only food chemicals
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that are subject to that
type of certification.
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I guess, because again,
there's just this great concern
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about the safety
of color additives,
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more so than other additives.
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Oh, that's a relief.
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Glad to know there's somebody
looking out for us, right?
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So even though
policymakers recognize
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that there are some
potential harms
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that come from ingesting
color additives,
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particularly synthetic
color additives,
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they really haven't recognized
the neurobehavioral effects
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of dyes yet.
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FDA really has danced
around that one,
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and won't do much of
anything to acknowledge that.
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They still
characterize food dyes
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as very safe on their website.
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In looking back,
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it was very much almost
an abusive situation
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where the person
that's being abused
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doesn't wanna make
their abuser mad.
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But my abuser was a
five-year-old child.
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Evan was born in 2013, and he
was the cutest little baby,
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and he was the sweet little
thing that would sit and cuddle.
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And in 2016, my next
child was born, Eric.
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So we had a little girl and
two little boys at that point.
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We were super happy
and life was wonderful.
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And then in 2017, Evan
started going to preschool
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and I didn't notice
anything weird,
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but I remember the teacher
telling me once in a while,
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like one of his
little friends got up,
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and he was sitting next to her
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and he just pushed her
back down into her chair.
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But it's preschool and
everybody's doing crazy stuff.
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And I remember her saying,
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that kind of thing happens once
in a while, not a big deal.
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And then in 2018, he turned
five during the Summer,
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and so he was gonna go to
kindergarten in the Fall.
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And we started seeing
a lot of aggression
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just as this little
five-year-old boy,
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he would lose control
and turn into,
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we call it the Incredible Hulk.
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And I started to
develop exit strategies
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for anywhere that I went.
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If I went to the park,
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I wanted to park close
to the playground.
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So if Evan got upset, I
could him to the car quickly.
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If I was going anywhere,
I knew how to get out,
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and if I didn't know how
to get out, I wouldn't go.
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And so my world
kind of closed in,
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and I couldn't go anywhere
and I couldn't be a mom.
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I just spent all of my time
trying to keep people safe
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instead of enjoying my children.
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As kindergarten started, it
didn't get better, it got worse.
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And I started getting daily
reports from the teacher
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that he was hitting
people, kicking people,
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ripping things off
the bulletin boards.
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After school time was terrible.
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And I remember his first
day of kindergarten,
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he hopped on the bus
excited and happy.
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And when he got off the bus,
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I was so excited to hear
about his first day of school
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and he screamed in
my face, just Ahh!
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Like from the
bottom of his soul.
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And he stormed up the stairs
and stormed into his room,
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and didn't come out
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00:19:40,903 --> 00:19:44,079
and you could hear him
throwing stuff around
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00:19:44,183 --> 00:19:45,598
and being angry.
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00:19:46,875 --> 00:19:49,395
And this was my tiny
little five-year-old boy
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who just had a huge milestone
that I wanted to hear about,
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00:19:55,159 --> 00:19:56,540
and I didn't get
to hear about it.
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00:19:56,643 --> 00:19:58,818
And he didn't come
out for an hour.
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And every day was like that.
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By February of his
kindergarten year,
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I called his pediatrician and
I said, something's wrong.
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And our pediatrician
gave us a referral
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to a neuropsychologist.
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And I came in and
we had an interview,
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and I told him everything
that was going on.
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And I remember trying to
put it into words like,
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my kid is having a hard time,
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00:20:28,503 --> 00:20:30,746
but it's not that
he had a bad day,
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he's kind of having a bad life
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00:20:34,716 --> 00:20:36,683
and so we're all
having a bad life.
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00:20:36,787 --> 00:20:41,067
And he said, you know, from
what you're telling me,
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he sounds consistently
inconsistent.
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Yes! That's what I've
been trying to describe,
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00:20:48,212 --> 00:20:49,869
consistently inconsistent.
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00:20:49,972 --> 00:20:54,045
That's why as I've been
reading a book about ADHD,
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or reading a book about anxiety
or reading a book about OCD,
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it didn't make sense.
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It was not that.
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00:21:01,467 --> 00:21:06,334
And so we had him do some
neuropsychological evaluation
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and the doctor explained
to us, he said,
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we can keep him in therapy
or we can add some medication
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00:21:12,616 --> 00:21:14,514
and see if that can help.
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00:21:14,618 --> 00:21:16,792
So we went back to
the pediatrician,
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and he prescribed
some medication and
we started him on it
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and we saw a blip
of improvement.
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The Center for Science
In The Public Interest
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is your food and
health watchdog.
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00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,875
We've been around for
more than 50 years,
436
00:21:30,979 --> 00:21:32,636
and we've been sort
of the major pushers
437
00:21:32,739 --> 00:21:34,638
behind some of the biggest
policy wins in the food,
438
00:21:34,741 --> 00:21:36,122
nutrition space in that time.
439
00:21:36,225 --> 00:21:38,158
So for example,
we led the charge
440
00:21:38,262 --> 00:21:40,299
on getting the nutrition
facts panel added
441
00:21:40,402 --> 00:21:42,301
to food packaging,
and then thereafter
442
00:21:42,404 --> 00:21:43,681
we got the added
sugar line added
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00:21:43,785 --> 00:21:45,511
to that Nutrition facts panel.
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00:21:45,614 --> 00:21:49,342
So we've been deeply invested
in improving transparency,
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00:21:49,446 --> 00:21:52,138
and safety and accountability
in the food system
446
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in the U.S. for decades.
447
00:21:53,795 --> 00:21:55,486
My job at the Center for
Science In The Public Interest
448
00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:58,178
was evaluating the
safety of additives.
449
00:21:58,282 --> 00:22:00,284
Most additives are
perfectly safe,
450
00:22:00,388 --> 00:22:01,803
even if they're synthetic.
451
00:22:01,906 --> 00:22:03,770
And of course some natural
additives are not safe.
452
00:22:03,874 --> 00:22:07,084
So of all the additives
I've evaluated,
453
00:22:07,187 --> 00:22:10,156
synthetic food dyes are very
close to the top of my list
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of additives that
I'm concerned about.
455
00:22:12,365 --> 00:22:13,780
You might be surprised to know
456
00:22:13,884 --> 00:22:17,405
that there are thousands of
chemicals that are permitted
457
00:22:17,508 --> 00:22:18,854
to be added to food.
458
00:22:18,958 --> 00:22:21,512
And I think most people
think that there's somebody
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00:22:21,616 --> 00:22:23,134
in the government
that's making sure
460
00:22:23,238 --> 00:22:26,137
that each additive has been
well tested before it's allowed
461
00:22:26,241 --> 00:22:27,898
to be added to food.
462
00:22:28,001 --> 00:22:30,383
But unfortunately
that is not the case.
463
00:22:30,487 --> 00:22:34,422
Many additives added to
food hardly have any data
464
00:22:34,525 --> 00:22:36,389
on them at all.
465
00:22:36,493 --> 00:22:39,219
That's why synthetic
food dyes are so unusual.
466
00:22:39,323 --> 00:22:41,325
I can't tell you
how unusual it is
467
00:22:41,429 --> 00:22:44,604
that we have 27 clinical
trials in children
468
00:22:44,708 --> 00:22:46,468
on synthetic food dyes.
469
00:22:46,572 --> 00:22:48,505
I can't think of any
other additive like that.
470
00:22:48,608 --> 00:22:49,644
In terms of the
clinical trials,
471
00:22:49,747 --> 00:22:51,818
food dyes are like
air pollutants.
472
00:22:51,922 --> 00:22:54,752
What you see is a general
effect on the population.
473
00:22:54,856 --> 00:22:57,099
So kids who have no problems
474
00:22:57,203 --> 00:22:59,205
with attention will move along
the spectrum a little bit,
475
00:22:59,308 --> 00:23:01,000
but they're still
in normal range.
476
00:23:01,103 --> 00:23:03,520
Kids who have some problems
will move along the spectrum,
477
00:23:03,623 --> 00:23:05,073
perhaps into the problem range.
478
00:23:05,176 --> 00:23:07,765
The same is true for lead
exposure at low levels
479
00:23:07,869 --> 00:23:09,802
for certain air pollutants,
480
00:23:09,905 --> 00:23:11,320
they have a general
population effect.
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00:23:11,424 --> 00:23:13,219
Some people are not
affected at all,
482
00:23:13,322 --> 00:23:14,807
some people are
affected somewhat,
483
00:23:14,910 --> 00:23:17,292
and then it depends on
what the baseline is,
484
00:23:17,396 --> 00:23:19,121
whether that becomes
a problem for them.
485
00:23:19,225 --> 00:23:24,230
FDA has the authority
to reassess a chemical,
486
00:23:24,333 --> 00:23:27,406
a food additive
whenever they want,
487
00:23:27,509 --> 00:23:29,649
but they're not
obligated to do so.
488
00:23:29,753 --> 00:23:32,928
So chemicals we know
are harmful stay
489
00:23:33,032 --> 00:23:35,621
in our food way too long
490
00:23:35,724 --> 00:23:39,072
because FDA is not proactively
reassessing chemicals.
491
00:23:39,176 --> 00:23:43,732
They don't spend, it seems
almost any time looking back
492
00:23:43,836 --> 00:23:48,875
at color additives that
were approved decades ago
493
00:23:50,083 --> 00:23:52,948
based on studies that
are nowhere near up
494
00:23:53,052 --> 00:23:54,571
to today's standards.
495
00:23:54,674 --> 00:23:56,227
Those just stay on the market.
496
00:23:56,331 --> 00:23:57,781
It seems forever
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00:23:57,884 --> 00:24:00,577
until a group like Center for
Science In the Public Interest
498
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,095
petitions them to ban them.
499
00:24:05,098 --> 00:24:08,412
It's just so crazy how
something you don't know about
500
00:24:08,516 --> 00:24:09,620
could have such a huge
effect on behavior.
501
00:24:09,724 --> 00:24:11,657
Can you imagine
like all these kids
502
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,660
that get labeled as behavior
kids, what if it was just dye?
503
00:24:14,763 --> 00:24:16,938
If I had to think back to his
life before and after dyes,
504
00:24:17,041 --> 00:24:19,665
I mean, it is literally
like Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde.
505
00:24:19,768 --> 00:24:22,978
I mean, it's night and
day, it's been a switch.
506
00:24:23,082 --> 00:24:25,705
For me and Rex, a lot of other
things have become easier
507
00:24:25,809 --> 00:24:27,983
because we took care
of this dye situation.
508
00:24:29,260 --> 00:24:30,917
I decided to become a mom
through using a donor.
509
00:24:31,021 --> 00:24:32,436
One of my very best
friends donated for me
510
00:24:32,540 --> 00:24:34,162
to be able to have my son.
511
00:24:34,265 --> 00:24:35,750
I, you know, still looking,
512
00:24:35,853 --> 00:24:37,786
I'm just kidding.
513
00:24:37,890 --> 00:24:41,238
No, so I became a single
parent on purpose.
514
00:24:41,341 --> 00:24:42,550
When we started our journey,
515
00:24:42,653 --> 00:24:45,518
you know, as mother and
son, kind of our two team,
516
00:24:45,622 --> 00:24:47,762
I started noticing things
about him and reactions
517
00:24:47,865 --> 00:24:49,695
when he was about 18 months old.
518
00:24:49,798 --> 00:24:51,075
But it just took a
little bit of more time
519
00:24:51,179 --> 00:24:53,699
and education before I
figured out what it was.
520
00:24:53,802 --> 00:24:56,460
Looking back, our story
started when he was four,
521
00:24:56,564 --> 00:24:57,288
right before pre-K.
522
00:24:57,392 --> 00:24:58,842
He was at a camp,
523
00:24:58,945 --> 00:25:01,223
and he had been eating this
colorful cereal every day
524
00:25:01,327 --> 00:25:03,571
as a snack that was provided.
525
00:25:03,674 --> 00:25:05,642
Probably three
weeks into the camp
526
00:25:05,745 --> 00:25:07,229
is when I started getting
phone calls every day,
527
00:25:07,333 --> 00:25:10,060
every other day that he was
running out of the building,
528
00:25:10,163 --> 00:25:11,061
he was hitting other kids.
529
00:25:11,164 --> 00:25:13,166
He was just exploding.
530
00:25:14,616 --> 00:25:16,307
The kind of final straw
day was when I got a call
531
00:25:16,411 --> 00:25:17,654
that I had to come
get him again.
532
00:25:17,757 --> 00:25:20,588
So I went into the room
and he was basically manic.
533
00:25:20,691 --> 00:25:23,038
I mean, he was crying and
laughing at the same time,
534
00:25:23,142 --> 00:25:24,868
and I said, what's
going on? What's wrong?
535
00:25:24,971 --> 00:25:26,076
He said, I don't know, mommy.
536
00:25:26,179 --> 00:25:27,974
My brain is fuzzy,
my brain is fuzzy.
537
00:25:28,078 --> 00:25:29,907
So I remember sitting on
the staircase with him,
538
00:25:30,011 --> 00:25:32,116
and I'm crying and he's crying.
539
00:25:32,220 --> 00:25:33,221
I just said, what's
going on buddy?
540
00:25:33,324 --> 00:25:34,222
He's like, I don't know.
541
00:25:34,325 --> 00:25:35,430
I said, why are you doing this?
542
00:25:35,534 --> 00:25:36,949
He's like, I don't
know. I can't help it.
543
00:25:37,052 --> 00:25:38,226
I don't know why I'm doing it.
544
00:25:38,329 --> 00:25:40,815
And I said, okay, let's go home.
545
00:25:40,918 --> 00:25:41,781
We're gonna figure
something out.
546
00:25:41,885 --> 00:25:43,127
So I go home, get him settled
547
00:25:43,231 --> 00:25:45,578
and I start Googling
sugar and behavior.
548
00:25:45,682 --> 00:25:47,200
You know, he'd been having
a lot of sugar lately.
549
00:25:47,304 --> 00:25:48,685
So in that Google thing,
550
00:25:48,788 --> 00:25:52,067
I saw a red dye behavior
article, clicked on that,
551
00:25:52,171 --> 00:25:54,829
found a YouTube
video about red dye.
552
00:25:54,932 --> 00:25:56,520
And I said, okay, there's
something behind this.
553
00:25:56,624 --> 00:25:57,659
Let me see what
I can figure out.
554
00:25:57,763 --> 00:25:59,178
I just knew this wasn't my kid.
555
00:25:59,281 --> 00:26:00,282
I knew something was wrong.
556
00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:07,082
In 1990, FDA
themselves concluded
557
00:26:07,186 --> 00:26:10,120
that the color additive
red 3 causes cancer
558
00:26:10,223 --> 00:26:11,915
when ingested by animals.
559
00:26:12,018 --> 00:26:17,092
As an effect, they banned
the use of red 3 in cosmetics
560
00:26:18,438 --> 00:26:21,787
and externally applied drugs,
but did not ban it in food
561
00:26:21,890 --> 00:26:23,271
and ingested drugs.
562
00:26:23,374 --> 00:26:26,377
So animals ate the red 3,
563
00:26:26,481 --> 00:26:28,966
got cancer, FDA bans
it in cosmetics,
564
00:26:29,070 --> 00:26:30,554
and externally applied drugs,
565
00:26:30,658 --> 00:26:33,453
allows it in food
and ingested drugs.
566
00:26:33,557 --> 00:26:35,317
And the reasons
why that came to be
567
00:26:35,421 --> 00:26:38,355
are sort of complicated
regulatory process.
568
00:26:38,458 --> 00:26:41,669
It's not because FDA somehow
thinks that it's safe
569
00:26:41,772 --> 00:26:43,222
for use in food.
570
00:26:43,325 --> 00:26:48,227
And in fact, FDA is actually
statutorily, legally obligated
571
00:26:49,953 --> 00:26:52,714
to prohibit color and food
additives that induce cancer
572
00:26:52,818 --> 00:26:55,855
when consumed by
animals or humans.
573
00:26:55,959 --> 00:26:57,236
This is called the
Delaney Clause,
574
00:26:57,339 --> 00:26:59,410
and it's a part of both the
Color Additive Amendment
575
00:26:59,514 --> 00:27:00,860
and the Food Additive Amendment.
576
00:27:00,964 --> 00:27:03,345
After the Color Additive
Amendment was passed in 1960,
577
00:27:04,864 --> 00:27:07,626
all of the color additives
that were in use at the time
578
00:27:07,729 --> 00:27:09,628
were basically put on
this provisional list
579
00:27:09,731 --> 00:27:11,871
that allowed the continued use
580
00:27:11,975 --> 00:27:14,494
while FDA sort of
vetted their safety.
581
00:27:14,598 --> 00:27:16,669
Then proponents of
the color additives,
582
00:27:16,773 --> 00:27:19,327
the people who make them
don't want to use them could
583
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:21,950
petition FDA and ask
them to take them off
584
00:27:22,054 --> 00:27:23,780
that provisional list, make
them permanently approved.
585
00:27:23,883 --> 00:27:25,782
This happened for red 3 in food
586
00:27:25,885 --> 00:27:28,232
and ingested drugs in 1969.
587
00:27:28,336 --> 00:27:32,064
So when FDA originally
approved red 3,
588
00:27:32,167 --> 00:27:35,308
it did so on the basis of
the studies at the time.
589
00:27:35,412 --> 00:27:40,279
And we've known that it causes
cancer since the early 80's
590
00:27:41,798 --> 00:27:43,316
and it was banned from
cosmetics in 1990,
591
00:27:43,420 --> 00:27:45,733
but it had already been
permanently approved
592
00:27:45,836 --> 00:27:49,564
for use in foods
and ingested drugs.
593
00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:53,672
So FDA decided that they
couldn't ban all uses at once
594
00:27:53,775 --> 00:27:56,295
in response to the
cosmetics petition.
595
00:27:56,398 --> 00:27:58,297
They said they were going to
take steps to ban it in food
596
00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,747
and ingested drugs.
597
00:27:59,850 --> 00:28:02,750
And red 3 is still
present in food and drugs.
598
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:08,479
All right, so
coincidentally as I'm editing
599
00:28:08,583 --> 00:28:09,998
the section of the film,
600
00:28:10,102 --> 00:28:12,138
there's some pretty
interesting things going on.
601
00:28:12,242 --> 00:28:15,590
So just last week in
the state of California,
602
00:28:15,694 --> 00:28:18,282
legislature passed a
bill that would ban
603
00:28:18,386 --> 00:28:21,941
the use of red 3 and three
other chemicals in food
604
00:28:22,045 --> 00:28:24,047
and drinks in the state.
605
00:28:24,150 --> 00:28:25,807
California's
unprecedented bill
606
00:28:25,911 --> 00:28:28,672
to ban four food
additives is now heading
607
00:28:28,776 --> 00:28:30,467
to Governor Newsom's desk.
608
00:28:30,570 --> 00:28:33,884
It includes red dye number
3, potassium bromate,
609
00:28:33,988 --> 00:28:36,887
brominated vegetable
oil, and propyl paraben.
610
00:28:36,991 --> 00:28:39,131
The chemicals have
been linked to cancer,
611
00:28:39,234 --> 00:28:42,548
reproductive problems
and developmental
issues in children.
612
00:28:42,651 --> 00:28:43,791
So I know what
you're thinking,
613
00:28:43,894 --> 00:28:46,586
like that's cool for California,
614
00:28:46,690 --> 00:28:48,761
but what if I don't
live in California?
615
00:28:48,865 --> 00:28:50,452
Well, let me put this
in perspective for you.
616
00:28:50,556 --> 00:28:53,628
California is about 12%
of the U.S. population,
617
00:28:53,732 --> 00:28:55,285
which gives it a pretty
significant amount
618
00:28:55,388 --> 00:28:56,804
of economic influence.
619
00:28:56,907 --> 00:28:59,323
It's said that if California
were a separate country,
620
00:28:59,427 --> 00:29:02,119
it would rank as the fifth
largest economy in the world.
621
00:29:02,223 --> 00:29:03,914
If the governor signs this ban,
622
00:29:04,018 --> 00:29:07,676
manufacturers using red 3
face about three options.
623
00:29:07,780 --> 00:29:09,609
Stop selling their
products in California,
624
00:29:09,713 --> 00:29:11,957
which is unlikely due
to the population.
625
00:29:12,060 --> 00:29:14,442
They could create two
versions of their products,
626
00:29:14,545 --> 00:29:17,203
one for California and one
for the rest of the country.
627
00:29:17,307 --> 00:29:19,619
Or they could change their
formula removing red 3
628
00:29:19,723 --> 00:29:20,828
altogether so they
could continue
629
00:29:20,931 --> 00:29:22,657
to sell their
products everywhere.
630
00:29:22,761 --> 00:29:24,901
This could be the
start of something big.
631
00:29:29,664 --> 00:29:33,495
It's just like not, it's
not part of the conversation.
632
00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:36,567
I would not believe my story
if I hadn't lived my story.
633
00:29:36,671 --> 00:29:38,535
I'd be like, she's crazy.
634
00:29:38,638 --> 00:29:40,951
I knew it was my last time being
pregnant and having a baby,
635
00:29:41,055 --> 00:29:42,711
so I soaked it up.
636
00:29:42,815 --> 00:29:46,301
Mercie was attached to
me, my Velcro child.
637
00:29:46,405 --> 00:29:50,478
Like wanted to be in my arms,
and be held and right near me.
638
00:29:50,581 --> 00:29:52,618
And so it was a very...
639
00:29:52,721 --> 00:29:55,069
Just really sweet babyhood.
640
00:29:55,172 --> 00:29:57,381
When she was about
two and a half,
641
00:29:57,485 --> 00:30:00,522
she had, had back to
back ear infections.
642
00:30:00,626 --> 00:30:02,559
We had to move to a
different type of antibiotic
643
00:30:02,662 --> 00:30:06,011
that we hadn't used and our
pediatrician had warned us,
644
00:30:06,114 --> 00:30:11,154
you know that a lot of times
it causes red stool in babies
645
00:30:12,672 --> 00:30:15,192
and children and not to worry
like that was totally normal.
646
00:30:15,296 --> 00:30:16,573
So I was like,
okay, no big deal.
647
00:30:16,676 --> 00:30:18,817
If that's what she's
recommending, it must be okay.
648
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,820
The second day,
something just changed
649
00:30:21,923 --> 00:30:26,548
and she was raging like
inconsolable, and crying
650
00:30:27,722 --> 00:30:29,137
and everything was
irritating her.
651
00:30:29,241 --> 00:30:33,245
And just lay down the floor
fits like, and it scared me
652
00:30:33,348 --> 00:30:35,350
because I couldn't console her.
653
00:30:35,454 --> 00:30:36,627
I couldn't calm her down.
654
00:30:36,731 --> 00:30:38,526
So I called my doctor and
explained what was going on.
655
00:30:38,629 --> 00:30:40,355
I think she thought I
was a little bit cuckoo,
656
00:30:40,459 --> 00:30:45,464
and we got her off that
and her symptoms went away.
657
00:30:46,637 --> 00:30:48,501
Within a day or two after
that, they improved.
658
00:30:48,605 --> 00:30:50,538
But I thought it was
something unique to that.
659
00:30:50,641 --> 00:30:51,988
I didn't place it at that time.
660
00:30:52,091 --> 00:30:56,647
Six months later, Mercie's
behavior started to change.
661
00:30:56,751 --> 00:30:58,580
She wasn't as easygoing.
662
00:30:58,684 --> 00:31:02,343
She was having more fits,
having more tantrums,
663
00:31:03,654 --> 00:31:07,313
melting down over things
that she hadn't before.
664
00:31:07,417 --> 00:31:12,111
That went on for about
a year and a half,
665
00:31:12,215 --> 00:31:13,733
and it was progressing.
666
00:31:13,837 --> 00:31:16,288
And in her 4-year-old
year being verbal,
667
00:31:16,391 --> 00:31:17,668
and being able to
express so much,
668
00:31:17,772 --> 00:31:19,981
she would scream
that she hated us,
669
00:31:20,085 --> 00:31:22,846
that she wanted to kill us,
that she wanted us to die.
670
00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:26,712
In the car, she would
unbuckle her car seats
671
00:31:26,815 --> 00:31:29,439
and take off her
clothes in the car
672
00:31:29,542 --> 00:31:32,373
because she'd get
so mad and so hot.
673
00:31:32,476 --> 00:31:34,478
It was like she was wanting
to crawl out of her skin.
674
00:31:34,582 --> 00:31:36,929
Like she was so
uncomfortable in her body,
675
00:31:37,033 --> 00:31:38,758
and it felt like we were
walking around eggshells
676
00:31:38,862 --> 00:31:40,105
all the time.
677
00:31:40,208 --> 00:31:43,073
Her sleep was insane.
678
00:31:43,177 --> 00:31:45,662
She could not sleep
in the evenings,
679
00:31:45,765 --> 00:31:49,838
she would be awake till two
and three, just restless.
680
00:31:49,942 --> 00:31:51,806
And then she would
sleep in every morning.
681
00:31:51,910 --> 00:31:54,705
So that was another part of
why it was so hard to like plan
682
00:31:54,809 --> 00:31:55,948
and go places.
683
00:31:56,052 --> 00:31:57,639
And we felt like we
weren't parenting right,
684
00:31:57,743 --> 00:31:59,987
and we were doing
something wrong,
685
00:32:00,090 --> 00:32:02,955
and all that we could do
was stay out of her way
686
00:32:03,059 --> 00:32:04,888
and try to keep
her safe somehow.
687
00:32:04,992 --> 00:32:07,580
It felt like whatever
was going on with her
688
00:32:07,684 --> 00:32:09,203
was holding us all hostage.
689
00:32:09,306 --> 00:32:11,791
And that is not a
typical tantrum.
690
00:32:11,895 --> 00:32:15,312
It was something we
could not contain.
691
00:32:15,416 --> 00:32:18,074
So take her to a
child psychologist.
692
00:32:18,177 --> 00:32:19,938
They said she's too young,
693
00:32:20,041 --> 00:32:22,561
but she had all the
markers for bipolar.
694
00:32:24,183 --> 00:32:27,014
You need to bring her back
in another year or two
695
00:32:27,117 --> 00:32:28,187
when she's a little bit older
696
00:32:28,291 --> 00:32:31,052
and mood stabilizing medication
697
00:32:31,156 --> 00:32:34,262
is gonna be your only option.
698
00:32:34,366 --> 00:32:39,164
And I was so crushed and
I felt so scared for her.
699
00:32:39,267 --> 00:32:40,993
I felt scared for our family.
700
00:32:41,097 --> 00:32:42,788
Like I didn't know if Dustin
and I were gonna be able
701
00:32:42,891 --> 00:32:44,824
to hang on and hold
us all together.
702
00:32:44,928 --> 00:32:46,895
It felt so terrible
for our other kids.
703
00:32:46,999 --> 00:32:49,519
It always felt like they
were getting hurt by her
704
00:32:49,622 --> 00:32:52,142
in one way, verbally
or physically.
705
00:32:52,246 --> 00:32:56,250
And I was so sad to think of
like, this is her whole life
706
00:32:56,353 --> 00:32:58,183
and is she even
gonna make it to 18?
707
00:32:58,286 --> 00:33:00,047
Is she even gonna like see 21?
708
00:33:00,150 --> 00:33:02,981
I don't know, because
she feels so volatile.
709
00:33:05,673 --> 00:33:09,228
I got invited to participate
in a meta analytic study
710
00:33:09,332 --> 00:33:10,678
of all the literature
on food dyes.
711
00:33:10,781 --> 00:33:12,128
I was invited because of my work
712
00:33:12,231 --> 00:33:14,337
on environmental risk factors
and genetic risk factors
713
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,718
in ADHD and how
they fit together.
714
00:33:16,822 --> 00:33:20,653
And I initially agreed to
lead this review thinking
715
00:33:20,757 --> 00:33:25,520
that we would debunk the, what
I viewed as an overemphasis
716
00:33:25,624 --> 00:33:27,315
on things like food
dyes and so on.
717
00:33:27,419 --> 00:33:28,627
And I was partly
motivated by knowing
718
00:33:28,730 --> 00:33:32,010
that there are a lot of
phony claims about ADHD,
719
00:33:32,113 --> 00:33:33,459
and a lot of bogus
treatments proposed.
720
00:33:33,563 --> 00:33:36,428
And I was on a mission to help
debunk some of this stuff.
721
00:33:36,531 --> 00:33:38,706
And so it came as a
bit of a surprise to me
722
00:33:38,809 --> 00:33:40,604
when we looked at the
data and actually saw
723
00:33:40,708 --> 00:33:42,951
that there actually seemed
to be an effect there
724
00:33:43,055 --> 00:33:44,367
for food dyes.
725
00:33:44,470 --> 00:33:46,541
If synthetic dyes are having
a small but real effect
726
00:33:46,645 --> 00:33:49,751
on the population, which the
data seems to suggest they do,
727
00:33:49,855 --> 00:33:52,823
that is gonna generally
lead to a slight increase
728
00:33:52,927 --> 00:33:54,066
in attention problems
729
00:33:54,170 --> 00:33:56,137
and hyperactivity
problems in children.
730
00:33:56,241 --> 00:33:58,553
And all that follows from
that with a slight increase
731
00:33:58,657 --> 00:34:01,177
in diagnoses, a slight
increase in kids
732
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,385
who are having
problems in school,
733
00:34:02,488 --> 00:34:04,421
and associated costs of that.
734
00:34:04,525 --> 00:34:06,734
So it's like any
other risk factor.
735
00:34:06,837 --> 00:34:08,736
The more of these you have,
the more you slightly move
736
00:34:08,839 --> 00:34:10,531
the population into a direction
737
00:34:10,634 --> 00:34:13,292
where more people are actually
having clinical problems.
738
00:34:13,396 --> 00:34:14,949
So if you ask a scientist
739
00:34:15,053 --> 00:34:17,193
if they think there
should be more research,
740
00:34:17,296 --> 00:34:18,401
they're always gonna say yes.
741
00:34:18,504 --> 00:34:20,610
It's like if I ask my partner
742
00:34:20,713 --> 00:34:22,301
if he would like another
tool for his garage,
743
00:34:22,405 --> 00:34:24,096
he's gonna say yes.
744
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,099
But the fact is, is
that we know enough now
745
00:34:27,203 --> 00:34:30,137
to say we should not
be exposing children
746
00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:31,517
to synthetic food dyes.
747
00:34:31,621 --> 00:34:33,623
We've been working
on this since the 70's.
748
00:34:33,726 --> 00:34:35,659
There's enough
science now to show
749
00:34:35,763 --> 00:34:38,076
that these shouldn't be
in any products ingested
750
00:34:38,179 --> 00:34:39,318
by humans at all.
751
00:34:39,422 --> 00:34:41,389
It's incredibly
frustrating to me
752
00:34:41,493 --> 00:34:44,806
to see these multinational
companies based in the U.S,
753
00:34:44,910 --> 00:34:47,430
mass produced products
for the European market
754
00:34:47,533 --> 00:34:48,776
and other countries in the world
755
00:34:48,879 --> 00:34:50,571
with natural alternatives in,
756
00:34:50,674 --> 00:34:53,815
but leave the synthetic
food dye here in the U.S.
757
00:34:53,919 --> 00:34:57,371
There's just genuinely no
point to having dye in there
758
00:34:57,474 --> 00:35:00,132
other than to market
to us to make money.
759
00:35:00,236 --> 00:35:03,239
The three most used
dyes in the United States,
760
00:35:03,342 --> 00:35:07,967
red 40, yellow 5 and yellow
6, those are all azo dyes.
761
00:35:08,071 --> 00:35:10,315
And the reason you
hear about azo dyes
762
00:35:10,418 --> 00:35:13,766
is because the British
government sponsored a study
763
00:35:13,870 --> 00:35:15,354
of azo dyes.
764
00:35:15,458 --> 00:35:18,495
The food dye that can be a
trigger has mostly disappeared
765
00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:20,428
from the food supply in Europe.
766
00:35:20,532 --> 00:35:22,637
European regulators
ordered food makers
767
00:35:22,741 --> 00:35:24,122
to put warning labels
768
00:35:24,225 --> 00:35:25,778
on things containing
certain food dyes.
769
00:35:25,882 --> 00:35:28,195
Many food companies
decided instead to remove
770
00:35:28,298 --> 00:35:31,439
the synthetic dyes,
reformulating the recipes there,
771
00:35:31,543 --> 00:35:34,166
but continuing to sell
the old versions here.
772
00:35:34,270 --> 00:35:36,341
Since the
beginning of this project,
773
00:35:36,444 --> 00:35:39,585
one of the most controversial
and often misunderstood topics
774
00:35:39,689 --> 00:35:41,242
has been the presence
of a warning label
775
00:35:41,346 --> 00:35:44,142
or outright ban on synthetic
dyes in certain countries,
776
00:35:44,245 --> 00:35:46,730
while the U.S. still
allows them to remain.
777
00:35:46,834 --> 00:35:48,698
To learn more about
the why and the how,
778
00:35:48,801 --> 00:35:50,907
we traveled across the
pond to London, England
779
00:35:51,010 --> 00:35:53,565
to have a conversation
with Dr. Jim Stevenson.
780
00:35:53,668 --> 00:35:55,532
Dr. Stevenson is a
leading researcher
781
00:35:55,636 --> 00:35:57,293
whose work in Europe
has been instrumental
782
00:35:57,396 --> 00:35:59,950
in shaping policy
around synthetic dyes.
783
00:36:00,054 --> 00:36:01,504
I got involved
784
00:36:01,607 --> 00:36:03,747
because I thought it was an
important public health issue.
785
00:36:03,851 --> 00:36:06,094
This is something
that you can act on
786
00:36:06,198 --> 00:36:08,131
without particular cost.
787
00:36:08,235 --> 00:36:10,202
You can take additives
out of children's diets,
788
00:36:10,306 --> 00:36:11,928
and it's something
that's simple.
789
00:36:12,031 --> 00:36:14,551
The rest of the influences
on children's behavior,
790
00:36:14,655 --> 00:36:17,347
particularly ADHD, for
example, are complex
791
00:36:17,451 --> 00:36:19,107
and are things you
can't do anything about.
792
00:36:19,211 --> 00:36:22,249
Things like genetics, you're
not gonna change the genetics,
793
00:36:22,352 --> 00:36:24,112
but what you can do
is to change the diet.
794
00:36:24,216 --> 00:36:27,185
But what happened in the UK
was that the British government
795
00:36:27,288 --> 00:36:30,222
were under some
pressure from parents
796
00:36:30,326 --> 00:36:34,157
to investigate whether
dyes were having an effect
797
00:36:34,261 --> 00:36:36,228
on not just children with ADHD,
798
00:36:36,332 --> 00:36:38,265
but children in the
general population.
799
00:36:38,368 --> 00:36:41,302
I was then working with a
pediatrician, John Warner
800
00:36:41,406 --> 00:36:43,028
who was interested
in that issue.
801
00:36:43,131 --> 00:36:45,203
And between us, we
applied for funds
802
00:36:45,306 --> 00:36:48,551
and did one study on
the Isle of Wight,
803
00:36:48,654 --> 00:36:51,830
which is a small island off
the south coast of England.
804
00:36:51,933 --> 00:36:54,557
That showed some initially
encouraging results,
805
00:36:54,660 --> 00:36:57,594
encouraging in the sense
that we got a positive effect
806
00:36:57,698 --> 00:36:58,975
of dyes on children's behavior.
807
00:36:59,078 --> 00:37:02,185
And we were then commissioned
by the UK government
808
00:37:02,289 --> 00:37:05,430
to then replicate that
in what became known
809
00:37:05,533 --> 00:37:07,052
as the Southampton study.
810
00:37:07,155 --> 00:37:10,020
What we were doing in these
two studies was looking
811
00:37:10,124 --> 00:37:11,298
at the effect of dyes
812
00:37:11,401 --> 00:37:14,301
on what we call
hyperactivity in children.
813
00:37:14,404 --> 00:37:18,236
Now, hyperactivity in the
way that I'm using that term
814
00:37:18,339 --> 00:37:21,411
is a measure of three
aspects of behavior.
815
00:37:21,515 --> 00:37:24,449
One is activity lever itself,
how much they move around.
816
00:37:24,552 --> 00:37:27,521
One is impulsivity, how much
they respond immediately
817
00:37:27,624 --> 00:37:29,316
to actions without thinking.
818
00:37:29,419 --> 00:37:30,662
And the other is inattention,
819
00:37:30,765 --> 00:37:32,733
whether they can remain on task.
820
00:37:32,836 --> 00:37:34,182
Quite large samples.
821
00:37:34,286 --> 00:37:37,393
On the Isle of Wight, about 250.
822
00:37:37,496 --> 00:37:40,465
And in Southampton, two
samples of about 150.
823
00:37:40,568 --> 00:37:43,502
We took those children
from ordinary schools,
824
00:37:43,606 --> 00:37:48,473
and then got their parents to
put them on a dye free diet
825
00:37:48,990 --> 00:37:50,440
for a week.
826
00:37:50,544 --> 00:37:52,822
We then gave them a drink,
which we had constructed,
827
00:37:52,925 --> 00:37:55,549
which either had the
dyes in or didn't.
828
00:37:55,652 --> 00:37:57,033
And if it didn't
have the dyes in,
829
00:37:57,136 --> 00:37:58,897
it was just ordinary
fruit juice.
830
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,797
We then monitored their behavior
in a number of settings.
831
00:38:02,901 --> 00:38:04,143
One was in the school.
832
00:38:04,247 --> 00:38:07,181
We also got the parents to
rate their children's behavior
833
00:38:07,285 --> 00:38:09,425
and their teachers to
rate their behavior.
834
00:38:10,426 --> 00:38:12,531
We also, with the
older children,
835
00:38:12,635 --> 00:38:14,568
sent them a computer-based task
836
00:38:14,671 --> 00:38:16,639
that measured things
like attention.
837
00:38:16,742 --> 00:38:20,781
What we found was that
when they were on the dyes,
838
00:38:20,884 --> 00:38:23,335
their scores on
the hyperactivity
measure were elevated
839
00:38:23,439 --> 00:38:26,373
compared to the time when
they're on the placebo.
840
00:38:26,476 --> 00:38:29,721
At the time, the UK was
part of the European Union.
841
00:38:29,824 --> 00:38:31,412
The European government decided
842
00:38:31,516 --> 00:38:34,001
that on the basis of our
work, that there was evidence
843
00:38:34,104 --> 00:38:37,487
that there was an adverse
effect on children's behavior,
844
00:38:37,591 --> 00:38:39,696
and they required manufacturers
to put a warning label
845
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,664
on the foods to that effect.
846
00:38:41,767 --> 00:38:44,322
What of course happened
was that the manufacturers
847
00:38:44,425 --> 00:38:46,669
didn't like having
their foods labeled,
848
00:38:46,772 --> 00:38:51,259
so they decided to take the
things out the foods themselves.
849
00:38:51,363 --> 00:38:52,813
The important thing
about the work
850
00:38:52,916 --> 00:38:56,989
that we did was that it's called
a randomized control trial.
851
00:38:57,093 --> 00:38:59,992
Now that is the gold standard
for demonstrating causality
852
00:39:00,096 --> 00:39:01,649
in this kind of world.
853
00:39:01,753 --> 00:39:04,514
It is us manipulating
experimentally
854
00:39:04,618 --> 00:39:07,379
what the child's being exposed
to at a particular time,
855
00:39:07,483 --> 00:39:09,554
and we're demonstrating
an adverse change
856
00:39:09,657 --> 00:39:10,900
in the child's behavior.
857
00:39:11,003 --> 00:39:12,764
To explain the kind of
effects we're seeing,
858
00:39:12,867 --> 00:39:14,938
not all children
respond to dyes.
859
00:39:15,042 --> 00:39:18,563
Some children respond more,
some children respond less.
860
00:39:18,666 --> 00:39:21,635
So it's a small change on
average for the population,
861
00:39:21,738 --> 00:39:24,810
but it's one that has some
long-term consequences.
862
00:39:25,846 --> 00:39:27,572
With all of the data
863
00:39:27,675 --> 00:39:29,505
and scientific evidence
underscoring the
potential hazards
864
00:39:29,608 --> 00:39:32,335
of synthetic dyes, it's
only logical to expect
865
00:39:32,439 --> 00:39:34,199
that some of the major
players would step up
866
00:39:34,302 --> 00:39:35,959
and remove these chemicals.
867
00:39:36,063 --> 00:39:38,168
It's a seemingly
straightforward move,
868
00:39:38,272 --> 00:39:39,756
eliminate a
potential health risk
869
00:39:39,860 --> 00:39:41,517
and demonstrate genuine concern
870
00:39:41,620 --> 00:39:43,208
for your consumer's well-being.
871
00:39:43,311 --> 00:39:45,693
A win-win scenario, right?
872
00:39:45,797 --> 00:39:48,731
Well, as it turns out,
a couple actually tried,
873
00:39:48,834 --> 00:39:50,422
well, kind of.
874
00:39:50,526 --> 00:39:53,321
In 2015, General Mills
announced with great fanfare
875
00:39:53,425 --> 00:39:56,152
their commitment to rid their
product of synthetic dyes,
876
00:39:56,255 --> 00:39:59,604
a quest for healthier,
more natural ingredients.
877
00:39:59,707 --> 00:40:02,676
A year later, Mars Incorporated
made a similar commitment
878
00:40:02,779 --> 00:40:05,472
following a viral
petition on Change.org,
879
00:40:05,575 --> 00:40:07,922
asking the company to
take dyes out of M&Ms.
880
00:40:08,026 --> 00:40:12,651
We did a petition
on Change.org,
881
00:40:12,755 --> 00:40:15,585
which was incredibly successful.
882
00:40:15,689 --> 00:40:20,279
We were fortunate enough to
get over 200,000 signatures,
883
00:40:20,383 --> 00:40:24,180
which is what prompted M&Ms
and Mars to contact me.
884
00:40:24,283 --> 00:40:25,492
And they explained
885
00:40:25,595 --> 00:40:27,735
that they were going
to take out the dyes,
886
00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:31,325
it was gonna take a while
and they invited my son
887
00:40:31,429 --> 00:40:34,811
to be the first one
to go to the factory
888
00:40:34,915 --> 00:40:36,986
as soon as they had
made the change.
889
00:40:37,089 --> 00:40:39,160
So my son was so excited,
890
00:40:39,264 --> 00:40:42,336
and it was really
exciting stuff.
891
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,063
However, as the
projected timelines approached,
892
00:40:45,166 --> 00:40:47,237
each company performed a
U-turn on their commitments,
893
00:40:47,341 --> 00:40:49,377
blaming the lack
of consumer demand.
894
00:40:49,481 --> 00:40:53,105
The iconic General Mills cereal
Trix actually did eliminate
895
00:40:53,209 --> 00:40:54,452
dyes for a brief moment.
896
00:40:54,555 --> 00:40:56,626
But after a public
outcry of criticism,
897
00:40:56,730 --> 00:40:58,801
accusing them of tarnishing
childhood memories,
898
00:40:58,904 --> 00:41:01,113
the neon hues promptly returned.
899
00:41:01,217 --> 00:41:02,701
We really thought we won,
900
00:41:02,805 --> 00:41:07,016
and I was so sad that it just
didn't end up working out.
901
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:08,949
It's easy to pick
on those two, right?
902
00:41:09,052 --> 00:41:11,330
Because those are very
public examples of companies
903
00:41:11,434 --> 00:41:13,781
that have talked about
this and promised,
904
00:41:13,885 --> 00:41:16,922
or did something about it
and then broke that promise.
905
00:41:17,026 --> 00:41:19,856
But there are many,
many, many companies
906
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,064
who've been silent on the issue,
907
00:41:21,168 --> 00:41:23,239
and still use food
dyes with impunity.
908
00:41:23,342 --> 00:41:27,415
So I want to point the finger
at the entire food industry,
909
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:29,763
not just a couple of
people who have at least
910
00:41:29,866 --> 00:41:32,662
at some point tried or
said they were gonna try
911
00:41:32,766 --> 00:41:35,769
and do something, even if
they didn't end up doing that.
912
00:41:35,872 --> 00:41:37,736
So why didn't
we as consumers rally
913
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,531
to ditch these dyes?
914
00:41:39,635 --> 00:41:41,809
Was there a crucial piece
missing from the puzzle?
915
00:41:41,913 --> 00:41:44,018
Was there ever any mention
of the potential dangers
916
00:41:44,122 --> 00:41:45,503
of these additives?
917
00:41:45,606 --> 00:41:48,678
Or was it just presented
as a more natural option?
918
00:41:48,782 --> 00:41:50,577
Without knowledge of
potential health risk,
919
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,165
why would we want
to eliminate them?
920
00:41:53,269 --> 00:41:54,788
But armed with that information,
921
00:41:54,891 --> 00:41:56,410
would the outcome
have been different?
922
00:41:56,514 --> 00:41:59,482
Would people still prefer the
vibrant colors of the past?
923
00:41:59,586 --> 00:42:00,897
With these questions in mind,
924
00:42:01,001 --> 00:42:02,761
we conducted a small
experiment with friends
925
00:42:02,865 --> 00:42:04,901
and family to gauge how
this knowledge would impact
926
00:42:05,005 --> 00:42:06,213
their consumer preferences.
927
00:42:07,732 --> 00:42:10,528
Do any of you practice
a dye free diet?
928
00:42:10,631 --> 00:42:12,460
No, I...
929
00:42:12,564 --> 00:42:15,187
Honestly, this is the first
time I've ever thought about it
930
00:42:15,291 --> 00:42:17,155
until maybe five minutes ago.
931
00:42:17,258 --> 00:42:18,156
- No.
- No.
932
00:42:19,778 --> 00:42:24,749
We do limit dyes, but we
are not completely dye free.
933
00:42:24,852 --> 00:42:29,581
We buy food that tastes
good based on price and taste.
934
00:42:29,685 --> 00:42:30,686
And calories.
935
00:42:31,790 --> 00:42:32,998
There's
a lot of companies
936
00:42:33,102 --> 00:42:35,104
that claim there is not
enough public demand
937
00:42:35,207 --> 00:42:39,487
to justify replacing synthetic
dyes in their products
938
00:42:39,591 --> 00:42:41,420
with a more natural option.
939
00:42:41,524 --> 00:42:43,491
So we'll be doing
some blind taste test,
940
00:42:43,595 --> 00:42:45,079
some visual comparisons,
941
00:42:45,183 --> 00:42:48,427
all to see how these dyes play
a role in your preferences.
942
00:42:48,531 --> 00:42:49,256
Y'all ready to go?
943
00:42:49,359 --> 00:42:50,637
- Okay.
- Okay.
944
00:42:50,740 --> 00:42:51,499
Alright, let's
put on our blindfolds.
945
00:42:51,603 --> 00:42:52,673
Okay.
946
00:42:54,019 --> 00:42:55,193
Go ahead and
pick up the one on your right
947
00:42:55,296 --> 00:42:56,332
and give it a taste.
948
00:42:57,954 --> 00:42:58,679
Ah.
949
00:42:59,473 --> 00:43:00,647
Hmm.
950
00:43:00,750 --> 00:43:01,440
Taste
like childhood?
951
00:43:01,544 --> 00:43:03,235
Mhm-hmm.
952
00:43:03,339 --> 00:43:05,479
If you think the
one on your left was dye free,
953
00:43:05,583 --> 00:43:06,307
raise your hand.
954
00:43:07,515 --> 00:43:08,275
Oh, I'm a little...
955
00:43:08,378 --> 00:43:09,690
I'm going counterintuitive.
956
00:43:10,933 --> 00:43:14,212
Yeah, so I wanna
say left has dye,
957
00:43:15,903 --> 00:43:16,732
and the right does not.
958
00:43:18,250 --> 00:43:18,665
I'm gonna say the same.
959
00:43:18,768 --> 00:43:19,942
Left has dye.
960
00:43:21,012 --> 00:43:22,151
This is gonna be
the dye free one.
961
00:43:22,254 --> 00:43:23,324
This has dye in it.
962
00:43:23,428 --> 00:43:26,431
There's not much of a
taste difference to me.
963
00:43:26,534 --> 00:43:27,397
So which
one would you say
964
00:43:27,501 --> 00:43:28,709
is the dye-free version?
965
00:43:30,469 --> 00:43:31,988
This one.
966
00:43:32,092 --> 00:43:32,920
All right, go ahead
967
00:43:33,024 --> 00:43:33,887
and remove your blindfolds.
968
00:43:35,371 --> 00:43:36,372
- Okay.
- Oh.
969
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:38,685
Wrong!
970
00:43:38,788 --> 00:43:41,066
- Oh, wow.
- Whoa. No way.
971
00:43:43,413 --> 00:43:44,622
Dude.
972
00:43:44,725 --> 00:43:45,381
They should start
selling these anyway.
973
00:43:45,484 --> 00:43:46,244
Those are better.
974
00:43:47,555 --> 00:43:48,418
We
continued this process
975
00:43:48,522 --> 00:43:50,282
with a number of
different products.
976
00:43:50,386 --> 00:43:53,389
Some of them were the same
brand from different countries.
977
00:43:53,492 --> 00:43:57,082
Others were a name brand
compared to a generic brand.
978
00:43:57,186 --> 00:43:57,980
One with dyes,
979
00:43:58,083 --> 00:43:59,119
one without.
980
00:43:59,982 --> 00:44:01,639
Sometimes they guessed right.
981
00:44:01,742 --> 00:44:02,847
You all got that one right.
982
00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:03,848
- Whoa.
- Okay.
983
00:44:05,366 --> 00:44:07,714
And many times
they're pretty surprised.
984
00:44:11,821 --> 00:44:15,273
They look the same to me.
985
00:44:15,376 --> 00:44:17,240
As they compared
the taste and appearance
986
00:44:17,344 --> 00:44:19,035
of a variety of
different dyed foods next
987
00:44:19,139 --> 00:44:21,003
to their dye-free counterparts,
988
00:44:21,106 --> 00:44:22,763
we shared with them some of
the information we've learned
989
00:44:22,867 --> 00:44:24,385
while creating this film.
990
00:44:24,489 --> 00:44:26,871
These dyes are used to
brighten the appearance
991
00:44:26,974 --> 00:44:30,357
of our food, but are purely
cosmetic and are associated
992
00:44:30,460 --> 00:44:31,807
with a number of risks.
993
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:33,878
And we concluded
by asking the question,
994
00:44:33,981 --> 00:44:36,604
do you think this information
could have an impact
995
00:44:36,708 --> 00:44:37,882
on consumer behavior?
996
00:44:37,985 --> 00:44:43,025
I do think that if the
population was educated
997
00:44:44,233 --> 00:44:47,754
on these studies that have
been done on the effects
998
00:44:47,857 --> 00:44:51,585
of these synthetic dyes, I
think that would outweigh
999
00:44:51,689 --> 00:44:54,933
the need to just have something
beautiful on my plate.
1000
00:44:55,037 --> 00:44:59,558
When you buy cigarettes
or you buy alcohol,
1001
00:44:59,662 --> 00:45:03,010
there's warning labels,
can cause cancer, you know.
1002
00:45:03,114 --> 00:45:06,117
I don't understand why
there's adult consumption
1003
00:45:06,220 --> 00:45:08,947
warning labels and not kid
consumption warning lables.
1004
00:45:09,983 --> 00:45:11,329
I don't know.
1005
00:45:11,432 --> 00:45:12,502
I mean, I'm not...
1006
00:45:12,606 --> 00:45:13,849
Honestly, I'm not
the kind of person
1007
00:45:13,952 --> 00:45:17,507
who thinks heavily about
what I eat.
1008
00:45:17,611 --> 00:45:18,888
For better or for worse.
1009
00:45:18,992 --> 00:45:22,616
But I mean, like, just
from a cost risk analysis,
1010
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:25,032
like I don't understand
why companies
1011
00:45:25,136 --> 00:45:27,000
would be so adamant.
- Concerned.
1012
00:45:27,103 --> 00:45:28,726
About keeping
these ingredients,
1013
00:45:28,829 --> 00:45:31,314
and I really don't think
it pushes the needle.
1014
00:45:32,557 --> 00:45:35,215
So one of the questions
is, whose area is this?
1015
00:45:35,318 --> 00:45:36,664
Should this be Nationals
Institute of Mental Health?
1016
00:45:36,768 --> 00:45:39,529
Should this be EPA? Is it FDA?
1017
00:45:39,633 --> 00:45:42,015
My hunch is that
different agencies
1018
00:45:42,118 --> 00:45:44,949
aren't sure this is in
their wheelhouse to fund.
1019
00:45:45,052 --> 00:45:47,468
It's a big gap. I think we
should be funding more studies
1020
00:45:47,572 --> 00:45:50,989
of food dyes, food additives,
and diet in general.
1021
00:45:51,093 --> 00:45:52,819
There's substantial evidence now
1022
00:45:52,922 --> 00:45:55,407
that there's something going
on with food, nutrients,
1023
00:45:55,511 --> 00:45:57,858
vitamins and minerals,
as well as additives
1024
00:45:57,962 --> 00:46:01,103
that affects brain development
that can affect ADHD,
1025
00:46:01,206 --> 00:46:03,105
and other mental
health conditions.
1026
00:46:03,208 --> 00:46:05,107
And personally, I would advocate
1027
00:46:05,210 --> 00:46:07,350
that we significantly
invest in this area.
1028
00:46:07,454 --> 00:46:10,629
I think the most important,
you know, new development
1029
00:46:10,733 --> 00:46:14,185
in the dyes research space
was the report that came out
1030
00:46:14,288 --> 00:46:16,877
in 2021 from the
California Office
1031
00:46:16,981 --> 00:46:19,638
of Environmental Health
Hazard Assessment, or OEHHA.
1032
00:46:19,742 --> 00:46:23,539
It's a group of, you know,
highly trained physicians,
1033
00:46:23,642 --> 00:46:26,784
toxicologists,
epidemiologists, statisticians.
1034
00:46:26,887 --> 00:46:30,132
And their job is just
to look at the science.
1035
00:46:30,235 --> 00:46:32,755
They don't get into politics,
they don't get into economics,
1036
00:46:32,859 --> 00:46:34,515
they just look at the science.
1037
00:46:34,619 --> 00:46:38,209
And their job is to assess
the health risks of chemicals.
1038
00:46:38,312 --> 00:46:40,142
They conducted
what I would consider
1039
00:46:40,245 --> 00:46:43,801
to be the most thorough review
of this literature ever done.
1040
00:46:43,904 --> 00:46:45,699
Really the best
resource we have on
1041
00:46:45,803 --> 00:46:48,322
what we know about food dyes
and their effects on behavior,
1042
00:46:48,426 --> 00:46:49,392
and brain development.
1043
00:46:49,496 --> 00:46:52,050
Randomized double-blind
clinical trials
1044
00:46:52,154 --> 00:46:55,882
are the gold standard
for showing a cause
1045
00:46:55,985 --> 00:46:57,366
and effect relationship.
1046
00:46:57,469 --> 00:46:59,575
We've got 27 of those.
1047
00:46:59,678 --> 00:47:03,130
Each study by itself might be
small, it might have a flaw,
1048
00:47:03,234 --> 00:47:06,409
but when you combine
them together, they
get very powerful.
1049
00:47:06,513 --> 00:47:09,827
27 human clinical
trials, animal evidence,
1050
00:47:09,930 --> 00:47:11,656
and in vitro
mechanistic evidence,
1051
00:47:11,759 --> 00:47:13,278
so they really got all of it.
1052
00:47:13,382 --> 00:47:16,074
And this was a
multi-year long process
1053
00:47:16,178 --> 00:47:19,181
that involved public
input and expert panels,
1054
00:47:19,284 --> 00:47:20,734
and peer review.
1055
00:47:20,838 --> 00:47:25,187
And this culminated in the
publication of this 2021 report,
1056
00:47:25,290 --> 00:47:28,707
which concluded that
synthetic food dyes can cause,
1057
00:47:28,811 --> 00:47:32,056
or exacerbate neurobehavioral
problems in some children.
1058
00:47:32,159 --> 00:47:35,611
There's a state senator in
California, Senator Wieckowski,
1059
00:47:35,714 --> 00:47:40,236
and he authored two bills,
both of which were aimed
1060
00:47:40,340 --> 00:47:43,584
at requiring a warning
label on dyed foods.
1061
00:47:43,688 --> 00:47:47,588
If California had a warning
label on dyed foods,
1062
00:47:47,692 --> 00:47:50,246
that would have implications
across the country.
1063
00:47:50,350 --> 00:47:52,110
You know, if you're a company,
1064
00:47:52,214 --> 00:47:54,216
you don't wanna put a warning
label on your product,
1065
00:47:54,319 --> 00:47:57,460
you'd rather reformulate it
to avoid the warning label.
1066
00:47:57,564 --> 00:48:00,325
If you have to reformulate
your product for California,
1067
00:48:00,429 --> 00:48:02,362
you might as well
reformulate it for everybody.
1068
00:48:02,465 --> 00:48:07,263
So the first bill, it's
passed the health committee,
1069
00:48:07,367 --> 00:48:09,196
but it ended up being defeated.
1070
00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:12,441
There was tremendous industry
opposition to the bill
1071
00:48:12,544 --> 00:48:14,132
as you could well imagine.
1072
00:48:14,236 --> 00:48:18,965
After the first bill failed,
he was able to obtain funding
1073
00:48:19,068 --> 00:48:22,692
for the state of California
for this OEHHA Office
1074
00:48:22,796 --> 00:48:24,798
to conduct the assessment.
1075
00:48:24,902 --> 00:48:27,249
So it's thanks to
Senator Wieckowski
1076
00:48:27,352 --> 00:48:30,114
that we have this fabulous
scientific assessment
1077
00:48:30,217 --> 00:48:31,529
on the effects of dyes.
1078
00:48:39,433 --> 00:48:41,297
What's the cliche
that people say,
1079
00:48:41,401 --> 00:48:44,507
you may lose the battle,
but you win the war.
1080
00:48:44,611 --> 00:48:47,752
And I think
legislation is that way
1081
00:48:47,855 --> 00:48:51,238
where you introduce an idea,
1082
00:48:51,342 --> 00:48:53,413
and then people start
talking about it.
1083
00:48:53,516 --> 00:48:58,556
The enthusiasm and the
excitement that has been created
1084
00:49:00,109 --> 00:49:04,113
by this report that OEHHA
has produced for scientists,
1085
00:49:04,217 --> 00:49:07,737
and academicians all around
the world has really helped
1086
00:49:07,841 --> 00:49:12,018
that snowball and drawn
some attention to this area
1087
00:49:12,121 --> 00:49:13,295
of public policy.
1088
00:49:13,398 --> 00:49:15,262
It's funny, people are binary.
1089
00:49:15,366 --> 00:49:17,713
You had a successful bill,
you had an unsuccessful bill.
1090
00:49:17,816 --> 00:49:21,406
So I have a unsuccessful
bill, but what the bill wanted
1091
00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:24,064
was the California
Department of Public Health
1092
00:49:24,168 --> 00:49:26,791
to promulgate
regulations for foods
1093
00:49:26,894 --> 00:49:28,827
that contain synthetic dyes.
1094
00:49:28,931 --> 00:49:31,175
Didn't work out,
didn't get done,
1095
00:49:31,278 --> 00:49:36,042
but I've learned to be
tenacious and to keep pushing.
1096
00:49:36,145 --> 00:49:41,012
And my chief of staff, Derek
Chernow, very clever guy,
1097
00:49:41,116 --> 00:49:44,395
he said, you're the chair
of the budget subcommittee
1098
00:49:44,498 --> 00:49:47,087
and you have control over OEHHA,
1099
00:49:47,191 --> 00:49:50,504
why don't you put the
money in the budget?
1100
00:49:50,608 --> 00:49:53,093
So very quietly in 2017,
1101
00:49:53,197 --> 00:49:55,406
California's budget
had a allocation
1102
00:49:55,509 --> 00:49:58,098
for the Office of
Environmental Hazards
1103
00:49:58,202 --> 00:50:00,583
to go and do the study.
1104
00:50:00,687 --> 00:50:04,518
So I lost the bill,
but won the battle.
1105
00:50:04,622 --> 00:50:06,727
I think the biggest
message I wanna get out there
1106
00:50:06,831 --> 00:50:09,627
to other families of color
and other single families
1107
00:50:09,730 --> 00:50:13,113
is that going dye free is
not an income level thing.
1108
00:50:13,217 --> 00:50:17,980
And it's not a crunchy yoga
mom, rich people problem.
1109
00:50:18,084 --> 00:50:20,914
It is a neurological reaction.
1110
00:50:21,018 --> 00:50:23,641
Your brain has no color, your
brain has no income level.
1111
00:50:23,744 --> 00:50:24,400
Just try it.
1112
00:50:24,504 --> 00:50:26,264
It does require some diligence,
1113
00:50:26,368 --> 00:50:28,232
and it does require some action.
1114
00:50:28,335 --> 00:50:31,752
But if you do it and you see
a difference, can you imagine
1115
00:50:31,856 --> 00:50:34,686
how much better you and
your child's life would be?
1116
00:50:34,790 --> 00:50:37,275
So I went on this group
I'm on in Facebook
1117
00:50:37,379 --> 00:50:39,346
that's like these awesome
moms that work in colleges,
1118
00:50:39,450 --> 00:50:41,935
and I said, has anyone ever
heard of red dye behavior?
1119
00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:43,661
And immediately had
like 40 responses.
1120
00:50:43,764 --> 00:50:45,766
Yes, my brother, yes,
I've heard of this,
1121
00:50:45,870 --> 00:50:47,320
my neighbor's kid has this.
1122
00:50:47,423 --> 00:50:49,391
And I was like, oh my gosh,
there's something here.
1123
00:50:49,494 --> 00:50:52,670
So that day I went through
our pantry, our refrigerator,
1124
00:50:52,773 --> 00:50:54,603
cleared everything out I could
find that had red dye in it.
1125
00:50:54,706 --> 00:50:56,812
So then it got a little
bit better for two days,
1126
00:50:56,915 --> 00:50:58,227
and then it happened again.
1127
00:50:58,331 --> 00:51:00,850
I was like, I don't
know what's going on.
1128
00:51:00,954 --> 00:51:02,266
I got rid of everything.
1129
00:51:02,369 --> 00:51:04,613
And so by this point I had
joined the dye-free group.
1130
00:51:04,716 --> 00:51:05,959
So I was asking in there,
1131
00:51:06,063 --> 00:51:07,685
and they're like, oh, you need
to look at these other dyes,
1132
00:51:07,788 --> 00:51:08,996
yellow and blues.
1133
00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:10,205
You know, check your freezer.
1134
00:51:10,308 --> 00:51:11,206
Have you looked at toothpaste?
1135
00:51:11,309 --> 00:51:12,414
I was like, toothpaste, what?
1136
00:51:12,517 --> 00:51:13,898
So I go in there, lo and behold,
1137
00:51:14,001 --> 00:51:15,244
his toothpaste has dye in it.
1138
00:51:15,348 --> 00:51:16,590
I was like, okay, get
rid of the toothpaste.
1139
00:51:16,694 --> 00:51:19,662
Finally though, after
I'd say a month,
1140
00:51:19,766 --> 00:51:22,320
I think we got rid of like
pretty much everything with red,
1141
00:51:22,424 --> 00:51:23,908
blue, and yellow dye in it.
1142
00:51:24,011 --> 00:51:26,117
And three years later we are,
1143
00:51:26,221 --> 00:51:27,636
I mean I'd say we're
a 100% dye-free.
1144
00:51:27,739 --> 00:51:29,293
But it has been a journey.
1145
00:51:29,396 --> 00:51:30,501
It has been a journey.
1146
00:51:30,604 --> 00:51:32,296
There's a lot of other
little, you know,
1147
00:51:32,399 --> 00:51:33,745
if you're looking at a timeline,
it's not just here to here.
1148
00:51:33,849 --> 00:51:36,507
There's a lot of peaks and
ups and downs in that journey.
1149
00:51:36,610 --> 00:51:39,544
But since then, it's
been so much better.
1150
00:51:39,648 --> 00:51:41,650
You know, everyone, his
teachers like him more,
1151
00:51:41,753 --> 00:51:43,824
you know, getting along better
more with kids at school.
1152
00:51:43,928 --> 00:51:44,687
He's got a couple
of little things
1153
00:51:44,791 --> 00:51:46,275
that have happened
more due to anxiety.
1154
00:51:46,379 --> 00:51:49,278
Not due to dye, but taking
the dye away has taken
1155
00:51:49,382 --> 00:51:50,624
the behavior away.
1156
00:51:50,728 --> 00:51:52,350
Now it's more of just
trying to figure out,
1157
00:51:52,454 --> 00:51:53,869
you know, what's going on here?
1158
00:51:53,972 --> 00:51:57,631
But I can't imagine the ADHD
anxiety going on plus the dye.
1159
00:52:00,496 --> 00:52:02,395
I can't even, like,
I can't imagine
1160
00:52:02,498 --> 00:52:03,775
what our life would be like.
1161
00:52:03,879 --> 00:52:07,607
Industry clearly has
a dog in this fight.
1162
00:52:07,710 --> 00:52:12,336
They use these food dyes to
make their food look good,
1163
00:52:12,439 --> 00:52:13,233
so you buy it, right?
1164
00:52:13,337 --> 00:52:15,373
So they stand to lose money,
1165
00:52:15,477 --> 00:52:17,789
if people stop
buying their products
1166
00:52:17,893 --> 00:52:18,894
or I think...
1167
00:52:18,997 --> 00:52:21,759
And their greatest fear
is if they're banned,
1168
00:52:21,862 --> 00:52:24,313
they definitely don't want
warning labels on their food
1169
00:52:24,417 --> 00:52:26,384
because that gives
consumers the impression,
1170
00:52:26,488 --> 00:52:28,973
the right impression that
there are chemicals in them
1171
00:52:29,076 --> 00:52:30,802
that can cause harm.
1172
00:52:30,906 --> 00:52:32,563
And then in the case of red 3,
1173
00:52:32,666 --> 00:52:34,668
FDA itself said
it causes cancer.
1174
00:52:34,772 --> 00:52:37,223
So there's really
no excuse, right?
1175
00:52:37,326 --> 00:52:40,536
But it's in their interest
in terms of profit, right?
1176
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:41,848
In terms of their bottom line
1177
00:52:41,951 --> 00:52:44,402
to not have to reformulate
their products.
1178
00:52:44,506 --> 00:52:48,958
You have no idea how much
opposition there is to the idea
1179
00:52:49,062 --> 00:52:51,651
of a warning label
on dyed foods.
1180
00:52:51,754 --> 00:52:55,033
There is so much industry
opposition to this notion.
1181
00:52:55,137 --> 00:52:58,934
They are out there lobbying,
saying that dyes are safe,
1182
00:52:59,037 --> 00:53:01,937
saying it would be too costly
to require a warning label.
1183
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,388
They're opposed to
giving consumers
1184
00:53:04,491 --> 00:53:06,769
the information they need
to protect their families.
1185
00:53:06,873 --> 00:53:11,395
This is a multi-billion
dollar food industry,
1186
00:53:11,498 --> 00:53:14,398
folks that are making a lot
of money having these dyes
1187
00:53:14,501 --> 00:53:15,882
in their products.
1188
00:53:15,985 --> 00:53:18,298
You know, as soon as
the bill was introduced,
1189
00:53:18,402 --> 00:53:19,920
I had everybody and their uncle
1190
00:53:20,024 --> 00:53:24,546
from the restaurant association,
the confectionary folks,
1191
00:53:24,649 --> 00:53:27,549
the chemical companies saying,
1192
00:53:27,652 --> 00:53:28,860
you could run us outta business.
1193
00:53:28,964 --> 00:53:31,380
This is gonna have an
adverse effect on us.
1194
00:53:32,243 --> 00:53:33,486
And you know, you have to say,
1195
00:53:33,589 --> 00:53:35,246
okay, everybody take
a big deep breath.
1196
00:53:35,350 --> 00:53:39,216
This is not new. You
knew of the bill in 2017.
1197
00:53:39,319 --> 00:53:41,287
This is now four years later.
1198
00:53:41,390 --> 00:53:43,944
At the end of the day,
all we're trying to do
1199
00:53:44,048 --> 00:53:45,463
is we're not trying to put
anybody outta business,
1200
00:53:45,567 --> 00:53:46,602
we just wanna inform the public
1201
00:53:46,706 --> 00:53:49,122
of what are you digesting here.
1202
00:53:49,226 --> 00:53:53,091
Ultimately, FDA
has final authority.
1203
00:53:53,195 --> 00:53:55,784
They bear the ultimate
responsibility,
1204
00:53:55,887 --> 00:53:58,821
but that doesn't
absolve the companies
1205
00:53:58,925 --> 00:54:02,135
from the responsibility to
protect their customers.
1206
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,240
Any change you wanna make?
1207
00:54:03,343 --> 00:54:05,207
Oh no. You know, too costly.
1208
00:54:05,311 --> 00:54:06,484
All the science is bad.
1209
00:54:06,588 --> 00:54:08,693
Those scientists are crazy.
1210
00:54:09,867 --> 00:54:11,075
But
at what human cost?
1211
00:54:11,178 --> 00:54:13,491
At what human
cost, right? Right.
1212
00:54:13,595 --> 00:54:15,148
What we know is
that in Europe,
1213
00:54:15,252 --> 00:54:18,462
any harm to health
is paid for by taxes,
1214
00:54:18,565 --> 00:54:20,947
and by the government and
the people as a whole.
1215
00:54:21,050 --> 00:54:23,190
Whereas here in the
U.S. there's no benefit
1216
00:54:23,294 --> 00:54:26,159
to the government in
preventing health issues
1217
00:54:26,263 --> 00:54:28,195
because they are not
gonna pay the cost.
1218
00:54:28,299 --> 00:54:30,784
Just because we have
regulatory authorities
1219
00:54:30,888 --> 00:54:33,166
does not make these
products safe.
1220
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:34,616
Are synthetic dyes
1221
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,413
the only issue in our food
system? Absolutely not.
1222
00:54:38,516 --> 00:54:40,829
But eliminating synthetic dyes
1223
00:54:40,932 --> 00:54:43,763
has dramatically
impacted our lives.
1224
00:54:43,866 --> 00:54:46,524
And we think it's just a
really great place to start.
1225
00:54:46,628 --> 00:54:49,113
It's a good
conversation to be had.
1226
00:54:49,216 --> 00:54:52,289
And we believe that it could
impact millions of lives.
1227
00:54:53,531 --> 00:54:56,327
It sounds crazy that
we have to say use food
1228
00:54:56,431 --> 00:54:58,260
to make food, but we're not.
1229
00:54:58,364 --> 00:55:01,367
We're using artificial
things to make food.
1230
00:55:01,470 --> 00:55:04,301
So companies use synthetic
dyes for two reasons.
1231
00:55:04,404 --> 00:55:05,785
One, for cost.
1232
00:55:05,888 --> 00:55:09,236
It's so much cheaper just
to use the synthetic dyes.
1233
00:55:09,340 --> 00:55:10,997
Second thing is time.
1234
00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:12,274
It's really hard actually
1235
00:55:12,378 --> 00:55:14,241
to create a product
using real food
1236
00:55:14,345 --> 00:55:17,348
that will always taste the
same and always look the same
1237
00:55:17,452 --> 00:55:18,694
because every batch
of strawberries
1238
00:55:18,798 --> 00:55:20,386
is going to look different.
1239
00:55:20,489 --> 00:55:22,940
But we know in Europe they
have higher standards,
1240
00:55:23,043 --> 00:55:26,115
and so a lot of companies
will have their U.S. version
1241
00:55:26,219 --> 00:55:27,634
or their recipe of the product
1242
00:55:27,738 --> 00:55:29,912
and their version
that they use in EU.
1243
00:55:30,016 --> 00:55:33,364
And the problem is the EU
one costs them more money
1244
00:55:33,468 --> 00:55:34,365
to make for Europe.
1245
00:55:34,469 --> 00:55:36,056
And so if they can get away
1246
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:37,334
with making the
American version,
1247
00:55:37,437 --> 00:55:40,647
they're going to do that
purely for their profits.
1248
00:55:40,751 --> 00:55:43,236
One of the reasons I
actually started my company
1249
00:55:43,340 --> 00:55:46,412
is because I had
so many neighbors,
extended family members,
1250
00:55:46,515 --> 00:55:50,485
community members struggling
with ADHD, migraines,
1251
00:55:50,588 --> 00:55:52,832
depression, anxiety,
autoimmune issues.
1252
00:55:52,935 --> 00:55:54,558
And you can't just
go ask somebody,
1253
00:55:54,661 --> 00:55:56,111
hey, can I come cook for you?
1254
00:55:56,214 --> 00:55:58,527
And so I was like, how do I
teach all these people around me
1255
00:55:58,631 --> 00:56:00,046
that are struggling?
1256
00:56:00,149 --> 00:56:01,219
And so I thought, you know what?
1257
00:56:01,323 --> 00:56:02,807
If I just start a
little Instagram account
1258
00:56:02,911 --> 00:56:06,328
and teach like a daily tip,
and an easy tip of things
1259
00:56:06,432 --> 00:56:08,434
that people can
do in their homes,
1260
00:56:08,537 --> 00:56:10,574
maybe then these people
will start feeling better.
1261
00:56:10,677 --> 00:56:12,438
Because a lot of people
think that you need
1262
00:56:12,541 --> 00:56:15,406
to have this huge new like
kale and sardine diet,
1263
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:17,512
and that is truly
not the case at all.
1264
00:56:18,927 --> 00:56:20,480
You can still have the mac
and cheese and the hamburgers
1265
00:56:20,584 --> 00:56:22,309
and the waffles and things,
1266
00:56:22,413 --> 00:56:24,035
but let's make them with
real food ingredients
1267
00:56:24,139 --> 00:56:26,417
that are actually going
to nourish the body
1268
00:56:26,521 --> 00:56:27,832
and take care of the body.
1269
00:56:27,936 --> 00:56:31,077
Diet actually plays a huge
role in mental health.
1270
00:56:31,180 --> 00:56:33,562
People out there are spending
thousands and thousands
1271
00:56:33,666 --> 00:56:36,289
of dollars on prescriptions
or medical bills,
1272
00:56:36,393 --> 00:56:38,429
or therapy or all
different things,
1273
00:56:38,533 --> 00:56:40,983
which sometimes are
needed, don't get me wrong.
1274
00:56:41,087 --> 00:56:43,710
But at the same time, a lot
of that could just be fixed
1275
00:56:43,814 --> 00:56:45,643
with the knowledge
about our food.
1276
00:56:45,747 --> 00:56:49,544
We tried behavioral
intervention
1277
00:56:49,647 --> 00:56:54,480
and behavioral training for
three years. Three years.
1278
00:56:55,964 --> 00:56:59,657
And I look back and I feel
terrible not recognizing
1279
00:56:59,761 --> 00:57:02,488
that it was something that
he absolutely cannot control.
1280
00:57:02,591 --> 00:57:04,421
Being a psychologist,
1281
00:57:04,524 --> 00:57:06,975
we tried every
psychological angle first.
1282
00:57:07,078 --> 00:57:09,149
In a way, it's a
double-edged sword.
1283
00:57:09,253 --> 00:57:10,496
If I wasn't a psychologist,
1284
00:57:10,599 --> 00:57:13,637
I probably would have not
done all of the things,
1285
00:57:13,740 --> 00:57:15,915
and maybe we would've figured
it out earlier 'cause yeah,
1286
00:57:16,018 --> 00:57:21,058
I blamed his behaviors on
us, on him when it wasn't.
1287
00:57:22,300 --> 00:57:23,888
So we pulled yellow,
we pulled green,
1288
00:57:23,992 --> 00:57:26,719
we went through the entire
house, we gutted everything.
1289
00:57:26,822 --> 00:57:29,963
And it was cold
turkey from that day.
1290
00:57:30,067 --> 00:57:35,072
And it was like watching a drug
addict coming off of drugs.
1291
00:57:36,556 --> 00:57:38,489
The emotional toll that
it causes these kids,
1292
00:57:38,593 --> 00:57:40,664
it's just heartbreaking
to watch them suffer.
1293
00:57:40,767 --> 00:57:42,044
But he calmed down.
1294
00:57:42,148 --> 00:57:45,462
His mind stopped racing
and he could focus.
1295
00:57:45,565 --> 00:57:50,087
The begging to die was
gone within days, days
1296
00:57:51,364 --> 00:57:52,572
to never come back.
1297
00:57:52,676 --> 00:57:54,954
Emotionally, he was
still kind of a wreck
1298
00:57:55,057 --> 00:58:00,062
because he had those years
where he didn't learn a lot.
1299
00:58:01,270 --> 00:58:04,239
There wasn't a lot of
emotional development
1300
00:58:04,342 --> 00:58:05,723
because he was high.
1301
00:58:05,827 --> 00:58:08,105
It's like the way that
we kind of explain it
1302
00:58:08,208 --> 00:58:10,072
was he was high for years.
1303
00:58:10,176 --> 00:58:11,729
It took about probably
six months for him
1304
00:58:11,833 --> 00:58:13,386
to catch up with that.
1305
00:58:13,490 --> 00:58:15,492
But then school wasn't
a problem anymore,
1306
00:58:15,595 --> 00:58:19,357
and making friends
wasn't a problem anymore.
1307
00:58:19,461 --> 00:58:22,499
We removed the dyes, man he's
the easiest kid to parent.
1308
00:58:22,602 --> 00:58:25,847
He went from eighth
grade to college.
1309
00:58:25,950 --> 00:58:28,815
He tested into English 101,
1310
00:58:28,919 --> 00:58:30,679
he skipped four years
of high school English.
1311
00:58:30,783 --> 00:58:32,267
He just turned 17.
1312
00:58:32,370 --> 00:58:34,787
He'll be graduating with
his associate of business
1313
00:58:34,890 --> 00:58:36,513
and his associate of science,
1314
00:58:36,616 --> 00:58:39,170
and then moving on to
a bachelor's degree.
1315
00:58:39,274 --> 00:58:40,413
He's doing fantastic.
1316
00:58:40,517 --> 00:58:43,623
He works on campus,
everyone loves him.
1317
00:58:43,727 --> 00:58:44,797
He's a great kid.
1318
00:58:44,900 --> 00:58:49,767
His whole problem
were dyes. That's it.
1319
00:58:50,423 --> 00:58:52,114
He doesn't have ADHD,
1320
00:58:52,218 --> 00:58:54,254
he doesn't have any
other neurological
behavioral problems.
1321
00:58:55,255 --> 00:58:57,085
It's just the dyes.
1322
00:58:57,188 --> 00:59:01,054
It's like those night
thoughts when it's late at night
1323
00:59:01,158 --> 00:59:02,573
and you're just laying in
your bed staring at nothing,
1324
00:59:02,677 --> 00:59:03,816
and you have nothing
to think about.
1325
00:59:03,919 --> 00:59:04,989
It's those intrusive
thoughts like,
1326
00:59:05,093 --> 00:59:06,404
hey, are you sure
you're on the life path
1327
00:59:06,508 --> 00:59:07,682
you wanna be on right now?
1328
00:59:07,785 --> 00:59:10,477
And it's those little pecks
1329
00:59:10,581 --> 00:59:11,548
that normally you just brush off
1330
00:59:11,651 --> 00:59:13,032
and you don't think about.
1331
00:59:13,135 --> 00:59:15,310
When you're on dyes, they get
loud, they get to be like,
1332
00:59:15,413 --> 00:59:18,589
hey, are you sure you want
to be alive right now?
1333
00:59:18,693 --> 00:59:22,041
And it gets really
hard to not listen.
1334
00:59:22,144 --> 00:59:26,597
Whenever I do an interview or
I talk to you lovely people,
1335
00:59:26,701 --> 00:59:30,877
my end goal is to at
least talk to one kid.
1336
00:59:30,981 --> 00:59:34,571
If that's one kid that's
not on anti-psychotics,
1337
00:59:34,674 --> 00:59:37,125
or one kid that's not
on some list somewhere
1338
00:59:37,228 --> 00:59:39,576
because he or she had
a violent outburst
1339
00:59:39,679 --> 00:59:41,094
where they hurt another kid,
1340
00:59:41,198 --> 00:59:44,097
I want to get to at least
one of them just to be like,
1341
00:59:44,201 --> 00:59:46,790
hey, here's an option.
1342
00:59:46,893 --> 00:59:50,310
Knowing that there are kids
my age or even younger,
1343
00:59:50,414 --> 00:59:54,073
or older that have a
sensitivity to dyes like me
1344
00:59:54,176 --> 00:59:57,179
and they don't know it yet,
I definitely can't imagine
1345
00:59:57,283 --> 00:59:59,250
what it would be like
to go through a breakup
1346
00:59:59,354 --> 01:00:01,114
or something that, you
know, it would hurt
1347
01:00:01,218 --> 01:00:03,013
and you're like, oh, I
think my life is ending.
1348
01:00:03,116 --> 01:00:05,222
And thinking that and
be like, this sucks.
1349
01:00:06,741 --> 01:00:09,053
But not having the
self-control and the cognition
1350
01:00:09,157 --> 01:00:12,781
because of dyes to say to
yourself, well it's temporary.
1351
01:00:12,885 --> 01:00:14,231
I'll get over this.
1352
01:00:14,334 --> 01:00:17,648
I have a whole life
ahead of me. I am 15.
1353
01:00:17,752 --> 01:00:19,270
I can't imagine what it
would be like to be like,
1354
01:00:19,374 --> 01:00:21,376
no, my life's done now.
1355
01:00:21,479 --> 01:00:24,413
There's no going
forward from here.
1356
01:00:24,517 --> 01:00:28,038
I definitely do
not enjoy the fact
1357
01:00:28,141 --> 01:00:29,349
that there are some
kids who think that.
1358
01:00:29,453 --> 01:00:30,799
And there are, of course,
there's other reasons.
1359
01:00:30,903 --> 01:00:31,869
There is of course
mental illness
1360
01:00:31,973 --> 01:00:33,526
and I'm not writing that off.
1361
01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:36,529
That will and forever
always be present.
1362
01:00:36,633 --> 01:00:38,531
But the one thing I
wanna try to avoid
1363
01:00:38,635 --> 01:00:43,018
is unnecessary
instances of kids who
1364
01:00:43,122 --> 01:00:46,746
just think I'm done. This is it.
1365
01:00:46,850 --> 01:00:49,059
All because of some
little ingredient
1366
01:00:49,162 --> 01:00:50,819
to make your food
brightly colored.
1367
01:00:59,448 --> 01:01:02,175
In September, 2020,
1368
01:01:03,383 --> 01:01:06,939
we were expecting a
new baby, fourth child.
1369
01:01:07,042 --> 01:01:09,458
Just a few weeks before
our baby was born,
1370
01:01:10,736 --> 01:01:12,738
my husband was
talking to his sister,
1371
01:01:12,841 --> 01:01:16,500
she suggested a Ted
Talk about the effect
1372
01:01:16,603 --> 01:01:18,122
of food dyes on children.
1373
01:01:18,226 --> 01:01:21,712
So my husband sent me a
text with that link to it,
1374
01:01:21,816 --> 01:01:24,784
and I kind of rolled
my eyes and I thought,
1375
01:01:24,888 --> 01:01:28,305
that just sounds stupid
1376
01:01:28,408 --> 01:01:31,066
because it's food coloring.
1377
01:01:31,170 --> 01:01:33,241
Like it's in everything. Why?
1378
01:01:34,069 --> 01:01:35,519
Why would this be a problem?
1379
01:01:35,622 --> 01:01:37,452
It's just a color.
1380
01:01:37,555 --> 01:01:40,489
And my husband said, no, no,
you should watch this video.
1381
01:01:40,593 --> 01:01:43,630
And I said, whatever.
1382
01:01:43,734 --> 01:01:46,116
That's okay, fine.
1383
01:01:46,219 --> 01:01:48,394
I had a friend post
something on Facebook
1384
01:01:48,497 --> 01:01:49,775
that resonated with me.
1385
01:01:49,878 --> 01:01:53,502
The title of the video
like caught my attention.
1386
01:01:53,606 --> 01:01:55,988
I'm like, I don't
know what this is,
1387
01:01:56,091 --> 01:01:57,783
but I trust my
friend who posted it.
1388
01:01:57,886 --> 01:01:59,543
She shares a lot of
same viewpoints as me.
1389
01:01:59,646 --> 01:02:00,855
I'm gonna watch this video.
1390
01:02:00,958 --> 01:02:03,029
And I watched it like
jaw on the floor,
1391
01:02:03,133 --> 01:02:07,516
resonated so much, Rebecca's
story of what was happening,
1392
01:02:07,620 --> 01:02:09,760
and what she was experiencing
1393
01:02:09,864 --> 01:02:13,902
and how removing dyes
instantly remove different
1394
01:02:14,006 --> 01:02:17,078
behaviors and different
things they were experiencing.
1395
01:02:17,181 --> 01:02:20,495
So I popped in my
headphones, and I listened
1396
01:02:20,598 --> 01:02:23,360
to this video while I was
making dinner that night.
1397
01:02:23,463 --> 01:02:28,365
And there were things that
kept coming up that wait, what?
1398
01:02:29,815 --> 01:02:31,264
Oh my gosh, she's
just described Evan.
1399
01:02:31,368 --> 01:02:36,407
And the ah-ha moment was
when the presenter said,
1400
01:02:36,511 --> 01:02:39,238
my kid doesn't always have ADHD.
1401
01:02:39,341 --> 01:02:40,757
I was shocked.
1402
01:02:40,860 --> 01:02:42,828
His preschool never
said anything like that.
1403
01:02:42,931 --> 01:02:45,175
I mean, yes, he was
interested in a lot of things
1404
01:02:45,278 --> 01:02:48,281
and yes, he was
enthusiastic but ADHD?
1405
01:02:49,731 --> 01:02:52,872
And why did it seem like he
only had ADHD on some days?
1406
01:02:52,976 --> 01:02:55,564
And I remember
thinking her kid
1407
01:02:55,668 --> 01:02:59,016
is consistently inconsistent.
1408
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,675
My kid is not always a bad kid.
1409
01:03:02,779 --> 01:03:04,504
Sometimes he's delightful.
1410
01:03:05,574 --> 01:03:07,645
And I thought, I'm desperate.
1411
01:03:07,749 --> 01:03:12,236
I have no other
options at this point.
1412
01:03:12,340 --> 01:03:14,376
So I started doing
a little research,
1413
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,690
and reading labels
and pulling stuff out
1414
01:03:17,794 --> 01:03:19,899
and making a pile
that he could eat
1415
01:03:20,003 --> 01:03:22,039
and a pile that he couldn't eat
1416
01:03:22,143 --> 01:03:25,698
and we just started.
1417
01:03:25,802 --> 01:03:28,666
We didn't see
immediate improvement,
1418
01:03:28,770 --> 01:03:31,704
but we'd made all these
changes getting rid of things
1419
01:03:31,808 --> 01:03:34,811
in our pantry, so we
just continued with it
1420
01:03:34,914 --> 01:03:38,228
and it took us several
weeks and then boom,
1421
01:03:39,022 --> 01:03:40,195
our world changed.
1422
01:03:43,958 --> 01:03:46,167
So we saw an
article where the FDA says,
1423
01:03:46,270 --> 01:03:50,136
"If you're worried about
dyes, then just read labels."
1424
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,069
But I mean, what
if you don't know?
1425
01:03:52,173 --> 01:03:53,450
That's crazy, right?
1426
01:03:53,553 --> 01:03:57,419
Right. Yes, you can look
at the ingredient label
1427
01:03:57,523 --> 01:04:00,319
and find these dyes
in the ingredient list
1428
01:04:00,422 --> 01:04:02,045
if you know what
you're looking for
1429
01:04:02,148 --> 01:04:03,805
and if you know you
need to look for them.
1430
01:04:03,909 --> 01:04:05,807
Consumers might have this idea
1431
01:04:05,911 --> 01:04:08,672
that they can
identify foods on site
1432
01:04:08,775 --> 01:04:09,984
that contain these dyes.
1433
01:04:10,087 --> 01:04:11,123
They think, oh, if
it's brightly colored,
1434
01:04:11,226 --> 01:04:13,780
if it's a bright
red sports drink,
1435
01:04:13,884 --> 01:04:15,748
then I know it's dyed.
1436
01:04:15,852 --> 01:04:17,336
And you're probably right,
1437
01:04:17,439 --> 01:04:22,306
but they're not just in these
conspicuously colored foods.
1438
01:04:23,273 --> 01:04:24,515
Recently we looked
at a food label
1439
01:04:24,619 --> 01:04:26,966
and found red 3 in a
mashed potato product.
1440
01:04:27,070 --> 01:04:30,659
It's like, you know why
first of all is that there?
1441
01:04:30,763 --> 01:04:34,387
But it's not just these
brightly colored vibrant foods,
1442
01:04:34,491 --> 01:04:36,355
it's kind of
permeated everything.
1443
01:04:36,458 --> 01:04:38,978
I think the thing is that
a lot of people don't know.
1444
01:04:39,082 --> 01:04:42,809
And so you can argue we
should just let people make
1445
01:04:42,913 --> 01:04:44,363
their own choices.
1446
01:04:44,466 --> 01:04:47,676
But a lot of people aren't armed
enough with the information
1447
01:04:47,780 --> 01:04:49,161
to be able to do that.
1448
01:04:49,264 --> 01:04:51,611
And these things are so
pervasive it's almost impossible
1449
01:04:51,715 --> 01:04:52,750
to avoid them.
1450
01:04:52,854 --> 01:04:54,200
Even if you know
what to look for.
1451
01:04:54,304 --> 01:04:56,409
People aren't always
able to study or understand
1452
01:04:56,513 --> 01:04:58,825
the list of 30 or 40 ingredients
in some of these foods.
1453
01:04:58,929 --> 01:05:01,069
So that's where the wording
label saves a tremendous burden
1454
01:05:01,173 --> 01:05:03,796
on the population of having
to police their own food.
1455
01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:05,384
That's part of why I
think it's sensible.
1456
01:05:05,487 --> 01:05:09,353
I think it's especially
alarming how many products
1457
01:05:09,457 --> 01:05:12,046
that are marketed to
children contain these dyes
1458
01:05:12,149 --> 01:05:15,566
because that's who we're
talking about is impacted
1459
01:05:15,670 --> 01:05:17,154
in terms of neuro behavior.
1460
01:05:18,224 --> 01:05:19,294
We're talking about children.
1461
01:05:19,398 --> 01:05:21,987
People generally,
probably don't know
1462
01:05:22,090 --> 01:05:23,540
that this is a problem.
1463
01:05:23,643 --> 01:05:26,681
And so a warning label would
essentially solve that problem,
1464
01:05:26,784 --> 01:05:29,926
make it more apparent to
consumers that these dyes
1465
01:05:30,029 --> 01:05:31,341
are present in their food.
1466
01:05:31,444 --> 01:05:33,550
And also let them know that
maybe this is something
1467
01:05:33,653 --> 01:05:36,449
that they should be aware
of and avoid if their child
1468
01:05:36,553 --> 01:05:37,519
is being impacted.
1469
01:05:37,623 --> 01:05:39,314
Why would you not
let a parent know
1470
01:05:39,418 --> 01:05:41,696
to try to avoid these foods,
1471
01:05:41,799 --> 01:05:45,942
or industry, take those
additives out of the food
1472
01:05:46,045 --> 01:05:48,013
and nobody has to
avoid anything.
1473
01:05:48,116 --> 01:05:51,326
One of my driving motivators
for creating this film
1474
01:05:51,430 --> 01:05:53,846
is my experience as a teacher.
1475
01:05:53,950 --> 01:05:56,849
I used to teach in a
high poverty school,
1476
01:05:56,953 --> 01:05:59,265
and so there were
a lot of families
1477
01:05:59,369 --> 01:06:02,510
that were just in
absolute survival mode.
1478
01:06:02,613 --> 01:06:05,582
And for many families
in this circumstance,
1479
01:06:05,685 --> 01:06:09,620
chemicals like synthetic dyes
or even reading labels at all
1480
01:06:09,724 --> 01:06:11,795
is just like not on their radar.
1481
01:06:11,898 --> 01:06:15,109
So for the FDA to
just say avoid them,
1482
01:06:15,212 --> 01:06:17,145
it's just really
missing the mark.
1483
01:06:17,249 --> 01:06:20,493
And in my opinion, it's
kind of an unfair statement.
1484
01:06:21,701 --> 01:06:24,394
I wrote a thesis for
my education law class,
1485
01:06:24,497 --> 01:06:27,224
and I was looking
specifically at foods
1486
01:06:27,328 --> 01:06:30,331
that are provided by the free
and reduced lunch program
1487
01:06:30,434 --> 01:06:34,059
and breakfast program
and the potential harms
1488
01:06:34,162 --> 01:06:35,577
that are coming from those foods
1489
01:06:35,681 --> 01:06:38,511
that could be causing
behavioral issues,
1490
01:06:38,615 --> 01:06:41,376
could be causing
misclassification for special ed
1491
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,378
and different issues like that.
1492
01:06:43,482 --> 01:06:45,035
I was really interested in this
1493
01:06:45,139 --> 01:06:47,865
because there are a lot of
conversations and papers
1494
01:06:47,969 --> 01:06:50,730
that have been written
about why students
1495
01:06:50,834 --> 01:06:55,287
from low income areas are
disproportionately represented
1496
01:06:55,390 --> 01:06:59,187
in special education and
disproportionately represented
1497
01:06:59,291 --> 01:07:03,950
in disciplinary behavior and
even expulsion from school.
1498
01:07:04,054 --> 01:07:07,678
And when the numbers
don't line up,
1499
01:07:07,782 --> 01:07:11,165
there's a reason behind that,
there's something going on.
1500
01:07:11,268 --> 01:07:14,133
So when I was researching
potentially the cause
1501
01:07:14,237 --> 01:07:17,447
of these behaviors and
especially low income schools,
1502
01:07:17,550 --> 01:07:22,590
I was shocked to see
the amount of food
1503
01:07:23,660 --> 01:07:26,076
that contains artificial
food coloring,
1504
01:07:26,180 --> 01:07:28,285
thousands of foods that
schools can choose from
1505
01:07:28,389 --> 01:07:32,634
to serve for breakfast or lunch
that are completely covered
1506
01:07:32,738 --> 01:07:34,291
by the government programs.
1507
01:07:34,395 --> 01:07:36,052
To suggest that parents
1508
01:07:36,155 --> 01:07:39,331
or students should
just avoid food dyes
1509
01:07:39,434 --> 01:07:41,436
if they don't want
to consume them,
1510
01:07:41,540 --> 01:07:44,612
that's not always an
option for some students
1511
01:07:44,715 --> 01:07:47,097
because especially
students who qualify
1512
01:07:47,201 --> 01:07:49,651
for free and reduced
lunch or breakfast,
1513
01:07:49,755 --> 01:07:53,103
that's typically about 70
to 80% of the nutrients
1514
01:07:53,207 --> 01:07:55,278
that they're gonna
consume all day long.
1515
01:07:55,381 --> 01:07:58,695
And so to put a restriction
on those students to say,
1516
01:07:58,798 --> 01:08:02,285
don't choose that, that's not
something that they can do.
1517
01:08:02,388 --> 01:08:04,425
And then on top of that,
1518
01:08:04,528 --> 01:08:08,153
school lunches don't come with
a label on the back of it.
1519
01:08:08,256 --> 01:08:10,845
So students don't know
if there's food dye.
1520
01:08:10,948 --> 01:08:13,399
We see it time and time
again from all the studies
1521
01:08:13,503 --> 01:08:17,645
that artificial food dyes
have a very negative effect
1522
01:08:17,748 --> 01:08:19,647
on children's behavior.
1523
01:08:19,750 --> 01:08:23,582
And when schools are
feeding children breakfast
1524
01:08:23,685 --> 01:08:27,310
with food dyes in them,
lunches with food dye in them,
1525
01:08:27,413 --> 01:08:31,037
snacks with food dye in them
it's something to think about
1526
01:08:31,141 --> 01:08:33,661
that there may be a link
between their behavior
1527
01:08:33,764 --> 01:08:35,352
and what they're eating.
1528
01:08:35,456 --> 01:08:36,871
So let's
say you've removed dyes
1529
01:08:36,974 --> 01:08:38,183
from your household,
1530
01:08:38,286 --> 01:08:39,736
you've mastered the
grocery store shuffle
1531
01:08:39,839 --> 01:08:42,290
and you're one of the lucky
ones whose school is on board.
1532
01:08:42,394 --> 01:08:44,913
There's still the issue of
prescription medications.
1533
01:08:45,017 --> 01:08:47,813
For many families, these
medications are non-negotiable.
1534
01:08:47,916 --> 01:08:50,298
They're vital, even lifesaving.
1535
01:08:50,402 --> 01:08:52,818
Take ADHD medication
for example,
1536
01:08:52,921 --> 01:08:54,164
they're often brightly colored,
1537
01:08:54,268 --> 01:08:57,512
which for kids sensitive
to dyes can spell trouble.
1538
01:08:57,616 --> 01:08:59,963
It's a tough pill to
swallow, pun intended
1539
01:09:00,066 --> 01:09:01,516
for families
striving to minimize
1540
01:09:01,620 --> 01:09:03,484
the impact of these additives.
1541
01:09:03,587 --> 01:09:06,280
Finding over the counter
drugs has not been a challenge
1542
01:09:06,383 --> 01:09:08,109
because those do
come in dye free.
1543
01:09:08,213 --> 01:09:09,869
Ironically, the
bigger box stores,
1544
01:09:09,973 --> 01:09:11,250
the cheaper ones are the
ones that are dye free,
1545
01:09:11,354 --> 01:09:12,355
which has been amazing.
1546
01:09:12,458 --> 01:09:13,770
So finding those
has not been hard.
1547
01:09:13,873 --> 01:09:17,325
But when he gets prescription
medication, antibiotics,
1548
01:09:17,429 --> 01:09:20,052
ironically, ADHD medications
are almost all colored.
1549
01:09:20,156 --> 01:09:21,260
And so that's been
the hardest part.
1550
01:09:21,364 --> 01:09:22,641
So I've got a really
good relationship
1551
01:09:22,744 --> 01:09:24,194
with the compound pharmacy
right down the street.
1552
01:09:24,298 --> 01:09:25,989
If we can't find the
medication dye free,
1553
01:09:26,092 --> 01:09:28,129
I have to call them and have
them make the medication,
1554
01:09:28,233 --> 01:09:30,027
which is of course
more expensive.
1555
01:09:30,131 --> 01:09:32,444
I am a single parent, so
affording that has been tough.
1556
01:09:32,547 --> 01:09:34,480
I, you know, I worked
my insurance to be able
1557
01:09:34,584 --> 01:09:35,757
to have some help
on that part of it.
1558
01:09:35,861 --> 01:09:38,243
But that's exhausting.
It is exhausting.
1559
01:09:38,346 --> 01:09:40,279
Especially when you need
immediate things, right?
1560
01:09:40,383 --> 01:09:42,592
So he had strep throat,
and I needed an antibiotic.
1561
01:09:42,695 --> 01:09:44,110
Well the only antibiotic
they had was dyed,
1562
01:09:44,214 --> 01:09:45,871
so then I had to call
the place over here.
1563
01:09:45,974 --> 01:09:48,425
Did they have a dye free
option? No, they don't.
1564
01:09:48,529 --> 01:09:49,599
Okay, we gotta go back here.
1565
01:09:49,702 --> 01:09:51,256
We gotta call the
pharmacist or the doctor
1566
01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:52,740
'cause the doctor's gotta
call the prescription in.
1567
01:09:52,843 --> 01:09:54,017
I mean it's exhausting.
1568
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,502
An ADHD medication
is actually one
1569
01:09:56,606 --> 01:09:58,849
that's interestingly
has dyes in it,
1570
01:09:58,953 --> 01:10:01,162
which exasperates the symptoms
1571
01:10:01,266 --> 01:10:02,577
and it just kind of
levels in each other.
1572
01:10:02,681 --> 01:10:05,373
And so example we just had
was a medication he needed,
1573
01:10:05,477 --> 01:10:06,788
we wanted to go up from
one milligram to two,
1574
01:10:06,892 --> 01:10:08,894
well the two milligram
has dye in it,
1575
01:10:08,997 --> 01:10:10,447
but the one milligram doesn't.
1576
01:10:10,551 --> 01:10:13,588
And so they wouldn't give him
two one milligram medications
1577
01:10:13,692 --> 01:10:15,418
until we got special approval
1578
01:10:15,521 --> 01:10:16,626
because they thought we were
trying to get more medication.
1579
01:10:16,729 --> 01:10:19,111
It took a week of back
and forth with the doctor
1580
01:10:19,215 --> 01:10:21,078
and the pharmacy to be
able to get approval
1581
01:10:21,182 --> 01:10:24,461
to have two one milligrams
instead of one two milligram
1582
01:10:24,565 --> 01:10:25,911
because of the dye.
1583
01:10:26,014 --> 01:10:27,119
And now I just keep
thinking as he gets older,
1584
01:10:27,223 --> 01:10:28,983
how are we gonna
do this, you know.
1585
01:10:29,086 --> 01:10:32,262
It's frustrating that they
just can't figure out a way
1586
01:10:32,366 --> 01:10:34,575
to dye medication with
non-synthetic dyes.
1587
01:10:34,678 --> 01:10:36,301
And I understand you
have to color medication
1588
01:10:36,404 --> 01:10:38,061
maybe differently, but
there's so many things
1589
01:10:38,164 --> 01:10:39,200
you can color medication with
1590
01:10:39,304 --> 01:10:40,581
that you don't have
to use dye for.
1591
01:10:40,684 --> 01:10:43,100
And so I just feel like
if food can figure it out,
1592
01:10:43,204 --> 01:10:44,861
medicine should
better figure it out.
1593
01:10:49,659 --> 01:10:54,526
For sure, the first 24 to 48
hours we were missing things,
1594
01:10:55,389 --> 01:10:56,700
I know, but we removed a ton
1595
01:10:56,804 --> 01:11:00,532
and it was like someone
had let out some air.
1596
01:11:00,635 --> 01:11:03,017
You could just feel the
pressure like in her,
1597
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,917
and in all of us decreasing,
we were just so amazed
1598
01:11:07,021 --> 01:11:09,748
and confused and happy.
1599
01:11:09,851 --> 01:11:12,785
And also thinking like any
second, it's all gonna change.
1600
01:11:12,889 --> 01:11:14,994
Like this can't last,
1601
01:11:15,098 --> 01:11:18,688
and this can't have
any sort of connection.
1602
01:11:18,791 --> 01:11:23,279
And the days and the
weeks that followed,
1603
01:11:23,382 --> 01:11:25,695
we really like went
through everything at home
1604
01:11:25,798 --> 01:11:29,871
and found dyes in marshmallows,
1605
01:11:29,975 --> 01:11:30,976
and I'm like,
they're not colorful,
1606
01:11:31,079 --> 01:11:34,497
why would there be an
artificial dye in that?
1607
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,499
All the things that we looked
on and pulling everything out
1608
01:11:36,602 --> 01:11:40,123
and reading everything and
making changes in our bathroom,
1609
01:11:40,226 --> 01:11:42,781
and our medicine
cabinet, everything.
1610
01:11:43,989 --> 01:11:48,787
She like stabilized and
she went from being sad
1611
01:11:50,167 --> 01:11:53,412
and angry all the time to
like smiling and peaceful.
1612
01:11:53,516 --> 01:11:56,208
Like I hadn't seen her be
that way since she was a baby.
1613
01:11:56,312 --> 01:11:59,107
Like where things wouldn't set
her off, and she was loving
1614
01:11:59,211 --> 01:12:03,180
and affectionate and smiling
and she could just be calm
1615
01:12:03,284 --> 01:12:04,906
and she started
sleeping like normally,
1616
01:12:05,010 --> 01:12:07,495
like being tired in the
evening and being able
1617
01:12:07,599 --> 01:12:08,910
to wake up in the
morning and be happy.
1618
01:12:09,014 --> 01:12:11,085
And I know we all like
tiptoed around her
1619
01:12:11,188 --> 01:12:14,571
like we had been thinking
this is gonna set her off.
1620
01:12:14,675 --> 01:12:16,573
And I remember with the other
kids looking at them like,
1621
01:12:16,677 --> 01:12:19,265
you don't have to be
scared of Mercie anymore.
1622
01:12:19,369 --> 01:12:21,889
And like what a heartbreaking
thing that was to say to them
1623
01:12:21,992 --> 01:12:26,065
and how much it helped
me realize how bad it was
1624
01:12:26,169 --> 01:12:28,274
that I'm telling them like,
you don't have to be afraid
1625
01:12:28,378 --> 01:12:30,242
of making her mad,
like she can handle it.
1626
01:12:30,346 --> 01:12:35,351
And so now it's been five years,
almost six years since then
1627
01:12:36,662 --> 01:12:40,666
and she is healthy and
happy, and spunky and sassy.
1628
01:12:40,770 --> 01:12:43,220
She is not without her
character and her spunk,
1629
01:12:43,324 --> 01:12:48,018
but she is a whole healthy
child all because of removing
1630
01:12:48,122 --> 01:12:49,641
the artificial dyes.
1631
01:12:50,883 --> 01:12:53,610
So I had my baby at
the beginning of October,
1632
01:12:53,714 --> 01:12:56,717
and everything was chaos.
1633
01:12:56,820 --> 01:13:00,099
I wasn't sleeping, I had a
new baby, I had four kids,
1634
01:13:00,203 --> 01:13:01,963
I was trying to figure
out how to live life.
1635
01:13:02,067 --> 01:13:05,277
And Halloween that year
was on Saturday night.
1636
01:13:05,381 --> 01:13:10,040
And so I had been
bracing myself all month,
1637
01:13:10,593 --> 01:13:11,939
we can do this.
1638
01:13:12,042 --> 01:13:15,494
Sunday's gonna be
terrible, we'll be okay.
1639
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,464
So we went trick or
treating, we stayed out late.
1640
01:13:19,567 --> 01:13:21,845
We went through Evan's candy,
1641
01:13:21,949 --> 01:13:25,608
and he had very
carefully read the labels
1642
01:13:25,711 --> 01:13:28,404
and so we had a dye
pile and a not dye pile
1643
01:13:28,507 --> 01:13:30,923
and he just ate from
the not dye pile.
1644
01:13:31,027 --> 01:13:33,132
And I went, well
that's a lot of sugar
1645
01:13:33,236 --> 01:13:34,858
and it's gonna be
a mess anyways.
1646
01:13:34,962 --> 01:13:37,620
Our family, we go to
church every Sunday
1647
01:13:37,723 --> 01:13:39,380
and church was at 9:00 a.m.
1648
01:13:39,484 --> 01:13:41,313
that Sunday morning
right after Halloween.
1649
01:13:41,417 --> 01:13:43,522
And that was what
I'd been dreading.
1650
01:13:43,626 --> 01:13:46,663
I was going to have
to get four kids
1651
01:13:46,767 --> 01:13:51,185
including a newborn
ready for church,
1652
01:13:51,288 --> 01:13:54,637
hung over on Halloween
candy and staying up late.
1653
01:13:55,500 --> 01:13:57,709
And I had my baby on the floor
1654
01:13:57,812 --> 01:14:01,609
as I was putting on her
little tights and her dress.
1655
01:14:01,713 --> 01:14:04,957
And Evan walked in and he
didn't have his shoes on,
1656
01:14:05,061 --> 01:14:07,581
and I braced myself
and I said, Evan,
1657
01:14:07,684 --> 01:14:09,721
I need you to get your shoes on.
1658
01:14:09,824 --> 01:14:13,069
And he looked up at me
and he said, okay mom.
1659
01:14:16,521 --> 01:14:18,212
And in that moment
1660
01:14:18,315 --> 01:14:20,594
I knew,
1661
01:14:20,697 --> 01:14:23,182
I knew it was the food dyes.
1662
01:14:23,286 --> 01:14:27,048
That's something he
would've reacted poorly to.
1663
01:14:27,152 --> 01:14:29,637
On a regular day when
he'd been well rested
1664
01:14:29,741 --> 01:14:34,262
and wasn't full of candy, he
would have exploded at that.
1665
01:14:35,678 --> 01:14:39,647
But that day with so
many things going on,
1666
01:14:39,751 --> 01:14:44,100
he said, okay mom
and put his shoes on.
1667
01:14:45,446 --> 01:14:48,138
And we got to church
10 minutes early.
1668
01:14:48,242 --> 01:14:49,623
After church when we got home
1669
01:14:49,726 --> 01:14:53,109
and we were just
talking about our day,
1670
01:14:53,212 --> 01:14:55,145
I said,
1671
01:14:55,249 --> 01:14:57,907
I think the food dyes worked.
1672
01:14:58,010 --> 01:14:59,943
I think we've turned a corner.
1673
01:15:00,944 --> 01:15:02,877
And we kept seeing improvements,
1674
01:15:04,223 --> 01:15:08,434
and I realized how many
experiences that I had missed
1675
01:15:08,538 --> 01:15:12,922
and I remember realizing what
a dramatic change we've seen
1676
01:15:13,025 --> 01:15:16,822
and that something had
switched in his brain.
1677
01:15:16,926 --> 01:15:21,240
He'd gone from violent,
incredible hulk
1678
01:15:21,344 --> 01:15:26,591
nuclear level meltdowns to
a super sweet little boy
1679
01:15:27,661 --> 01:15:29,041
who'd been hiding
there all that time.
1680
01:15:31,423 --> 01:15:32,148
Come here buddy.
1681
01:15:38,672 --> 01:15:39,880
I love you.
1682
01:15:42,330 --> 01:15:43,711
The stories
and the science shared
1683
01:15:43,815 --> 01:15:46,507
in this film demand more
than just passive awareness.
1684
01:15:46,611 --> 01:15:47,888
They beckon for change.
1685
01:15:47,991 --> 01:15:50,718
And though the film may
end when the credits roll,
1686
01:15:50,822 --> 01:15:52,789
we are now standing at the
crossroads of awareness
1687
01:15:52,893 --> 01:15:55,999
and action asking, what's next?
1688
01:15:58,001 --> 01:16:00,556
Most companies are not
going to get rid of dyes
1689
01:16:00,659 --> 01:16:02,868
unless something
forces them to do so.
1690
01:16:02,972 --> 01:16:04,387
They're not gonna just do it
1691
01:16:04,490 --> 01:16:05,906
because it's the
right thing to do.
1692
01:16:06,009 --> 01:16:10,013
So that's why a documentary
like yours is so important.
1693
01:16:10,117 --> 01:16:11,670
We need to get the
message out there
1694
01:16:11,774 --> 01:16:14,155
and put pressure on companies.
1695
01:16:14,259 --> 01:16:15,881
It's only consumer pressure,
1696
01:16:15,985 --> 01:16:21,024
or policy changes like
warning labels or better yet,
1697
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,372
get these dyes banned that
will make them stop using them.
1698
01:16:24,476 --> 01:16:25,719
So with
that being said,
1699
01:16:25,822 --> 01:16:28,514
it looks like it's up
to us, the consumer.
1700
01:16:28,618 --> 01:16:31,552
The natural first
step is removing dyes
from your household.
1701
01:16:31,656 --> 01:16:33,278
Learning how to read
labels and avoid dyes
1702
01:16:33,381 --> 01:16:34,969
is by far the best way to remove
1703
01:16:35,073 --> 01:16:38,317
or limit dyes for
you and your family.
1704
01:16:38,421 --> 01:16:40,078
So when you're
reading a label,
1705
01:16:40,181 --> 01:16:42,943
the artificial dyes
have to be on the label.
1706
01:16:43,046 --> 01:16:45,255
There is actually lots
of other ingredients
1707
01:16:45,359 --> 01:16:46,774
that can be hidden.
1708
01:16:46,878 --> 01:16:49,294
You can hide a whole
slew of ingredients
1709
01:16:49,397 --> 01:16:50,951
under the term natural flavors,
1710
01:16:51,054 --> 01:16:53,747
but with artificial dyes
you do have to list them.
1711
01:16:53,850 --> 01:16:57,129
So you will see the blue 1,
the red 40, the yellow 5,
1712
01:16:57,233 --> 01:16:59,925
the yellow 6 listed
on the label.
1713
01:17:00,029 --> 01:17:02,445
It seems overwhelming
but when you get into it,
1714
01:17:02,548 --> 01:17:03,757
just like most things,
1715
01:17:03,860 --> 01:17:05,551
it's not as hard as you
think it's gonna be.
1716
01:17:05,655 --> 01:17:07,726
You just have to be
more cognizant of
what you're getting,
1717
01:17:07,830 --> 01:17:09,383
and reading all the labels.
1718
01:17:09,486 --> 01:17:12,835
But it's everyday advocacy of
like him and what he can have
1719
01:17:12,938 --> 01:17:14,664
and what he can't have and
explaining and talking,
1720
01:17:14,768 --> 01:17:18,254
and answering questions
and those kind of things.
1721
01:17:18,357 --> 01:17:21,913
How do you tell if a child
has a food dye sensitivity?
1722
01:17:22,016 --> 01:17:24,467
You remove it from their food,
1723
01:17:24,570 --> 01:17:27,332
you feed them foods
that are dye free
1724
01:17:27,435 --> 01:17:29,437
and you watch 'em for two weeks
1725
01:17:29,541 --> 01:17:30,818
and you will know.
1726
01:17:30,922 --> 01:17:33,890
If you see a behavior
change, you know.
1727
01:17:33,994 --> 01:17:39,033
So no risk in removing them,
but everything to gain.
1728
01:17:40,414 --> 01:17:43,451
Secondly, spread
the word, tell your story.
1729
01:17:45,039 --> 01:17:48,422
It is so simple in
practice like yeah,
1730
01:17:48,525 --> 01:17:49,803
it can feel
overwhelming at first,
1731
01:17:49,906 --> 01:17:54,946
but the reality is to be
able to give that information
1732
01:17:56,188 --> 01:17:57,431
to families that feel
like they are drowning,
1733
01:17:57,534 --> 01:18:01,711
and they are stuck and
they're hopeless is huge.
1734
01:18:01,815 --> 01:18:04,265
I had people, after I
shared my story on Facebook,
1735
01:18:04,369 --> 01:18:07,061
strangers and friends
reach out to me
1736
01:18:07,165 --> 01:18:09,650
talk about their grown children.
1737
01:18:09,754 --> 01:18:13,550
They're like, you just
described my entire,
1738
01:18:13,654 --> 01:18:15,863
my entire raising of my child.
1739
01:18:15,967 --> 01:18:18,728
So when I'm sad that
like it was two years
1740
01:18:18,832 --> 01:18:22,732
of literally hell on
earth in our family,
1741
01:18:22,836 --> 01:18:24,769
it also was only two years
1742
01:18:24,872 --> 01:18:28,911
and like we have so many
healthy years beyond that,
1743
01:18:29,014 --> 01:18:31,085
I'm just super grateful.
1744
01:18:32,259 --> 01:18:33,778
Get involved
with your school systems,
1745
01:18:33,881 --> 01:18:35,987
and help educate the
boards and decision makers.
1746
01:18:36,090 --> 01:18:38,714
Education is key because
like Thomas said.
1747
01:18:38,817 --> 01:18:41,544
People generally
probably don't know
1748
01:18:41,647 --> 01:18:42,821
that this is a problem.
1749
01:18:42,925 --> 01:18:46,583
There are federal laws
that require any schools
1750
01:18:46,687 --> 01:18:50,380
who are recipients of the
free and reduced lunch program
1751
01:18:50,484 --> 01:18:54,005
or breakfast programs, the
board of ed has to have a policy
1752
01:18:54,108 --> 01:18:56,904
that has to encompass
student wellness.
1753
01:18:57,008 --> 01:18:59,182
It has to address obesity,
1754
01:18:59,286 --> 01:19:01,944
different health issues
within the school
1755
01:19:02,047 --> 01:19:03,600
and for the students.
1756
01:19:03,704 --> 01:19:06,914
Within that policy,
parents can demand
1757
01:19:07,018 --> 01:19:10,262
that artificial food
dyes are addressed.
1758
01:19:10,366 --> 01:19:12,989
There's education
surrounding it.
1759
01:19:13,093 --> 01:19:15,026
You can start at
the local level.
1760
01:19:15,129 --> 01:19:16,717
If we really
wanna make an impact,
1761
01:19:16,821 --> 01:19:18,961
we're gonna need to
make some racket.
1762
01:19:19,064 --> 01:19:21,446
If companies are citing
lack of public demand,
1763
01:19:21,549 --> 01:19:22,861
then let's demand it.
1764
01:19:22,965 --> 01:19:24,380
Reach out to
companies and brands,
1765
01:19:24,483 --> 01:19:26,831
and let them know you aren't
happy with these chemicals
1766
01:19:26,934 --> 01:19:28,349
and write your politicians.
1767
01:19:28,453 --> 01:19:30,351
We are currently witnessing
a handful of states
1768
01:19:30,455 --> 01:19:32,906
make a stand against food
dyes and other chemicals.
1769
01:19:33,009 --> 01:19:34,252
Let your state legislators know
1770
01:19:34,355 --> 01:19:36,875
that your state wants
those changes to you.
1771
01:19:38,394 --> 01:19:42,881
Policymakers,
either personally or
through their staff
1772
01:19:44,055 --> 01:19:48,991
read the correspondence
that people send to them.
1773
01:19:50,233 --> 01:19:53,719
Until things get hot, you
don't change behaviors.
1774
01:19:53,823 --> 01:19:56,653
And every legislature,
1775
01:19:56,757 --> 01:19:58,794
whether it's the
United States Congress
1776
01:19:58,897 --> 01:20:03,799
or the state legislators,
listen to the public.
1777
01:20:05,214 --> 01:20:07,078
So if the public comes in and
says, why would we protect
1778
01:20:07,181 --> 01:20:09,632
the kids in California
and not protect our kids?
1779
01:20:09,735 --> 01:20:11,979
What's wrong? I mean,
you represent me
1780
01:20:13,015 --> 01:20:15,776
and you can
articulate your desire
1781
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,261
to have change in many ways.
1782
01:20:18,365 --> 01:20:20,746
You don't hear from people,
you might not do anything.
1783
01:20:20,850 --> 01:20:22,679
You hear from a
couple of people,
1784
01:20:22,783 --> 01:20:24,958
eh, you know I can
take a little heat.
1785
01:20:25,061 --> 01:20:29,376
You get a lot of folks that
galvanize a clear message
1786
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:32,206
of we want change now.
1787
01:20:32,310 --> 01:20:35,002
Then you start having change.
1788
01:20:35,106 --> 01:20:37,936
Together, we have
the power to drive change.
1789
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,456
It starts with us
and it starts now.
1790
01:20:42,147 --> 01:20:45,668
We are a force to be reckoned
with and your voice matters.
1791
01:20:45,771 --> 01:20:47,083
So let's make it heard.
1792
01:20:49,672 --> 01:20:52,019
We did it!
1793
01:20:52,123 --> 01:20:53,607
I can't believe we
actually made a documentary.
1794
01:20:53,710 --> 01:20:54,711
Me too!
1795
01:20:54,815 --> 01:20:56,713
Me too!
1796
01:20:56,817 --> 01:20:59,509
This has been
the adventure of a lifetime.
1797
01:20:59,613 --> 01:21:01,339
And we couldn't
have done it without the support
1798
01:21:01,442 --> 01:21:02,581
of our community.
1799
01:21:02,685 --> 01:21:04,514
Where can people go
to get more information
1800
01:21:04,618 --> 01:21:05,999
and learn how to get involved?
1801
01:21:06,102 --> 01:21:08,380
- Todyeforthedocumentary.
- ...com.
1802
01:21:08,484 --> 01:21:09,795
Good job.
1803
01:21:09,899 --> 01:21:11,556
Click on the resources tab
1804
01:21:11,659 --> 01:21:13,799
where you can find our
30 Day Dye-Free Challenge
1805
01:21:13,903 --> 01:21:16,181
as well as templates for
writing decision makers.
1806
01:21:16,285 --> 01:21:17,424
Even though the film's over,
1807
01:21:17,527 --> 01:21:18,908
this is really
just the beginning.
1808
01:21:19,012 --> 01:21:21,083
And we can't wait to see
what we can do together.
1809
01:21:21,186 --> 01:21:21,946
What do we say guys?
1810
01:21:22,049 --> 01:21:23,602
That's a wrap!
1811
01:21:25,156 --> 01:21:29,574
โช I'm counting my blessings
too many to remember โช
1812
01:21:30,644 --> 01:21:32,232
โช I'm singing your praises
1813
01:21:32,335 --> 01:21:35,614
โช Each and everyday I live
my life in surrender โช
1814
01:21:35,718 --> 01:21:40,585
โช I'm counting my blessings
from January to December โช
1815
01:21:42,138 --> 01:21:44,037
โช Gotta keep up with all of
His goodness and wonder โช
1816
01:21:44,140 --> 01:21:46,729
โช Every day I make the
choice to remember โช
1817
01:21:46,832 --> 01:21:51,907
โช I'm counting my blessings
1818
01:21:52,838 --> 01:21:57,533
โช I'm counting my blessings
1819
01:21:58,948 --> 01:22:03,056
โช You never fail to
remind me I'm enough โช
1820
01:22:04,574 --> 01:22:08,371
โช I look around and see all
the things you've done โช
1821
01:22:08,475 --> 01:22:13,307
โช Then you fill me with your
peace and perfect love โช
1822
01:22:14,688 --> 01:22:16,552
โช You tell me you're
working it all for my good โช
1823
01:22:16,655 --> 01:22:20,349
โช Making a way when I
didn't think you could โช
1824
01:22:20,452 --> 01:22:25,457
โช I'm counting my blessings
too many to remember โช
1825
01:22:26,286 --> 01:22:27,804
โช I'm singing your praises
1826
01:22:27,908 --> 01:22:31,532
โช Each and every day I
live my life in surrender โช
1827
01:22:31,636 --> 01:22:36,434
โช I'm counting my blessings
from January to December โช
1828
01:22:36,537 --> 01:22:39,955
โช Gotta keep up with all of
His goodness and wonder โช
1829
01:22:40,058 --> 01:22:42,647
โช Every day I make the
choice to remember โช
1830
01:22:42,750 --> 01:22:47,583
โช I'm counting my blessings
1831
01:22:48,894 --> 01:22:53,037
โช I'm counting my blessings
1832
01:22:53,140 --> 01:22:55,280
โช Name them one by one
1833
01:22:55,384 --> 01:22:58,663
โช See what God has done
1834
01:22:58,766 --> 01:23:01,666
โช So much to be thankful for
1835
01:23:01,769 --> 01:23:03,944
โช So much to be grateful for
1836
01:23:04,048 --> 01:23:06,843
โช Name them one by one
1837
01:23:06,947 --> 01:23:09,950
โช See what God has done
1838
01:23:10,054 --> 01:23:15,128
โช So much to be thankful for
1839
01:23:16,543 --> 01:23:21,030
โช I'm counting my blessing
too many to remember โช
1840
01:23:21,893 --> 01:23:24,068
โช I'm singing your praises
1841
01:23:24,171 --> 01:23:27,209
โช Each and every day I
live my life in surrender โช
1842
01:23:27,312 --> 01:23:32,352
โช I'm counting my blessings
from January to December โช
1843
01:23:33,732 --> 01:23:35,493
โช Gotta keep up with all of
His goodness and wonder โช
1844
01:23:35,596 --> 01:23:38,392
โช Every day I make the
choice to remember โช
1845
01:23:38,496 --> 01:23:43,570
โช I'm counting my blessings
1846
01:23:44,502 --> 01:23:47,712
โช I'm counting my blessings
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