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This programme
contains some strong language.
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Hello and welcome to
The Traitors: Uncloaked.
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I am your host, Ed Gamble.
Before we get started properly,
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should say massive,
massive spoiler warning.
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If you're not up-to-date
on this series of The Traitors,
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get yourself to BBC iPlayer
and get caught up now,
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you massive weirdo,
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because we have so much to talk
about on tonight's show.
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We will see the moment that
banished Jonny and murdered Meg
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finally find out who
the Traitors are
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and they'll both be with me
in The Traitors Basement
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to discuss all things treachery,
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trickery and treason.
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Plus, to discuss tonight's
explosive episode,
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I'll be joined by
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RuPaul's Drag Race star
and Traitors superfan Danny Beard
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and season one Traitor
and total legend Amanda.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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Welcome, welcome and thank you
for joining us once again
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in this castle-esque basement.
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We have got a lot to discuss
on tonight's episode.
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It really, it really had it all.
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Claudia screaming into a megaphone
at no-one in particular.
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I'm obsessed with how much
Claudia screams.
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Especially in the missions,
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she absolutely loves a scream,
doesn't she?
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Yeah. She's like the mother,
isn't she, on sports day?
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She really is, yeah. You know,
cheering her kids on.
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"Come on!" A particularly
vicious mother at sports day,
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I would say. A vicious mother, yes.
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I'm still not over the scarecrow
of Claudia.
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I want to know what's happened
to the scarecrow of Claudia.
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Do you want it in your house?
I want it outside me house.
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I'd never get broken into again!
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Well, before we go any further,
we should talk about what happened
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at the end of tonight's
nail-biting episode. Yeah.
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So, let's have a little reminder.
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OK, it's between Diane...
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Charlotte.
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And Tracey.
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# Who will save us? #
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This murder's perfect.
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It's a good move.
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100%.
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Let's do it. OK.
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I love this game.
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# Who will save us? #
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Well, they've decided someone
from those three.
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And according to Harry,
the murder's perfect.
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Who do we think it's going to be
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and who do we hope
it's going to be?
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I think if they choose Charlotte,
it would be...
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It's so random
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that it would throw everyone
into a bit of a tizz in there.
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That would be a really
random one, wouldn't it? Yes.
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Yeah. Yeah, it would.
It would be like, well, why her?
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Yeah.
So who's been connected to her?
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Who's been...? We've not heard
a lot from Charlotte yet. No.
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She's played a pretty quiet game,
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so to kill her out of the blue
would really mess people up.
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Yeah. And I wouldn't do
the clairvoyant,
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because she might see it coming,
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even though she's seen
nothing else coming so far.
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So, we're not hoping for Tracey.
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We're not... We're maybe hoping
for Charlotte.
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I wouldn't mind if it was Tracey.
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She's not giving...
She's not giving us nothing.
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And no offence, Amanda, but Diane's
taking it for the gays now.
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Well... She is. I pass my crown on.
You passed the crown on, hon.
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I pass my crown over.
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We, and I say we collectively,
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because I do speak on behalf
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of all the homosexuals
in the country,
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we love her.
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Yeah. She's amazing.
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What is it about Diane that you love
so much? She's just...
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You know if she was
your teacher,
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she would be your enemy
in Year Seven. 100%.
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Yeah, she's strong.
There's 30-year-olds
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all round the country quivering...
Yeah. ..seeing her on the telly.
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They're having flashbacks. Yeah.
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They're probably having to go back
through therapy seeing her on telly.
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But it's just something
about a strong woman... Yeah.
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I'd be scared to fart round Diane.
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Oh, yeah, you couldn't.
You couldn't.
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She'd know what I'd had for dinner.
Yeah, she would. She...
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LAUGHTER IN STUDIO
You absolutely couldn't.
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"McDonald's?"
Do you know what I mean?
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She is on it like a car bonnet.
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I love the example with McDonald's,
as well. Well, cos that's all I eat.
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Unfortunately, it was Jonny
who got banished tonight.
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I mean, I personally didn't
really see this coming
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from the previous episode.
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It seems to have all happened
so quickly.
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I think when one person
is mentioned,
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it is like that bit
of herd mentality.
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Everybody now is trying to save
themselves, as well, aren't they?
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Yeah. So if they haven't
really got a lot to go on,
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they jump onto the bandwagon,
and yeah, unfortunately,
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I didn't see it coming.
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And I liked Jonny.
Yeah, yeah. Jonny was a good boy.
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You've been there.
Do you find that you all...
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Do you just jump in and think,
"How can I save myself?"
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Because you see it flip
on a coin and it annoys me.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I mean, it can change...
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You know, you sort of have the chats
throughout the day
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and then you think, "Right, OK,
the majority is going to go
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"with a certain person."
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It can change round
that table three or four times.
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Let's talk about Paul,
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because certainly Jaz really
has his sights set on Paul now.
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Do we think that's
going to come to fruition?
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Because he seems to be holding
back a little bit as well,
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because he knows how much clout
Paul's got, is what he said.
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I think Paul is really going
to be in the spotlight now... Yeah.
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..so he's really got to pull it
out of the bag.
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Yeah. I think he's going
to do it, do you?
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I mean, the suspicions have started
to come.
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So, let's actually have a little
look at what Jaz said about Paul.
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So, please,
if I'm not here tomorrow,
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remember this conversation.
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Bro, he's acting different,
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and he's too popular
to be bringing his name up.
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Too popular.
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There's too much clout.
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It's a very smart move from Jaz...
Yeah. Yeah. ..I think.
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To say that out loud,
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to voice your opinion and say,
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"If I'm killed tonight,
then it's Paul,"
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it almost guarantees
that he won't be killed.
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Exactly, yeah. Because he's the one
saying that, right?
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But as long as Jaz knows
he's saying it to
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someone who's
going to tell Paul that.
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Yeah, well... And he is.
He's saying it to Harry.
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Well, he's saying it to Harry.
Guaranteed.
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The only thing with Paul is,
I think he's playing it very clever,
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but I think he's going to turn even
on Harry
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and Harry isn't
going to be aware of that.
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I also think the whole point
of The Traitors is, well,
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you're second-guessing,
then you're third-guessing
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then you're fourth-guessing.
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You never know if something's
a double bluff, a triple bluff,
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a however many bluff, you know?
I'm not Carol Vorderman.
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So, it's how do we know he's not
the Traitor?
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That's what my mind would be going.
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Yeah. You know?
My mind would be going,
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"Well, how do we know Jaz is not
the Traitor?"
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"If I'm not killed tonight,"
and then he turns up tomorrow,
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how are YOU not planting the seed?
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I mean, I'd be a paranoid mess
if I was in there.
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Yeah. I'd have to be a Traitor.
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Oh, I had so much fun. Yeah.
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Yeah! I mean, you know,
I've had five children.
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God, I'd a couple
of weeks away. It was fantastic!
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I didn't care if I had to murder
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to have a couple of weeks away.
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You'd do anything for a free
breakfast and a bit of, you know,
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a bit of time
on your own after five children.
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So, no, I really enjoyed...
This is why you're loved.
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Paul also got called out
by Anthony at the round table... Yes.
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..and this was to do with
their sort of botched plan.
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Now, the plan was obviously
Paul was going to be saved,
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then they could they could
kill Andrew,
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and then Meg
would get banished.
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But obviously they saved Andrew,
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because Paul thought
he was the most popular. Yes.
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So it's all gone a little bit wrong.
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But then when you see... This is why
I think Paul's incredible.
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When they went back to the turret,
Paul's reaction was,
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"It's worked, our plan's worked.
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It's like, "No, it hasn't.
Your exact plan completely failed."
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Yeah, but he can't see that.
He can't see that. Because to him...
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He wanted Ash out.
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She's gone.
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So, to him, that was his plan.
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Yes. I think that was his individual
plan in his mind.
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Although he's playing Team Traitors,
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he's not Team Traitors.
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He's Team Paul. Team Paul.
He's Team Paul. He's Team Paul.
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Absolutely.
We're on the same page, guys.
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Yeah.
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Amanda, how many steps ahead
were you as a Traitor?
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Were you doing things day by day,
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or were you thinking ahead
like a game of chess?
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Oh, no. Day by day.
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Who was annoying me that day!
But that didn't come across.
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I thought you had it all covered.
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I thought you absolutely had
the whole thing planned.
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Cool as a cucumber. I know, I was in
the chess club when I was younger,
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so perhaps something...
Maybe that's it.
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..like that came through.
I don't know.
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Yeah, but we've got that
chess guy in there now.
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He's a chess coach, to be fair.
Oh, he's a coach, is he? Yeah. Yeah.
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I think the best way to play
a Traitor,
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I know it's a game of deception,
but it's a game of trust. Mm-hm.
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You have to get people
to trust you very quickly.
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And Paul has done that. Yeah.
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And that's what it's about.
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And as long as they trust you
and believe in you,
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they believe any shit you're saying.
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Now, I want to talk about
the missions,
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because despite sort of rising
tensions amongst the group,
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they seem to have worked
really well as a team today.
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Yeah, I think...
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You need the missions
obviously to win the prize fund,
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but I think as a team it brings
you together
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and it does
just calm your mind down, as well.
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Mm-hm. You can observe other people.
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It's a good excuse for the Traitors
to get rid of people
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that aren't participating.
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Yeah. You know, they can use
that as an excuse as banishment
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to start sowing some seeds.
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But yeah, really, it's nice
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just to sort of calm down
and be a team,
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but that's
when the friendships,
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you could see them bonding more
and more... Yeah.
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Totally. ..because they are totally
relying on each other
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to pull this, the mission, together.
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And that's when their friendships
are going to form
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and that's when it's going to
get harder.
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Can I say, I think, as a viewer,
the missions are where the Traitors
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let things slip?
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Because I think Harry's
facial expressions in some of
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these missions have
given it away.
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When they didn't get
the shield for Paul...
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Yeah. ..he was visibly gutted.
He was gutted, yeah. Yes.
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If I was in a one-mile radius,
I feel, of Harry at that point,
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I think I'd have been onto him.
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Well, and in this episode he was
offered, wasn't he, a shield,
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I think once or twice?
And he just said,
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"No, it's OK," because he knows
he's not going to get murdered.
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Yeah. And they gave it
to Ross instead. Yes, yes. So...
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But I also think that was tactical
of him to try and seem
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like a real team player.
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Yes, yeah. And, like, well,
that's what a Faithful would do.
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I mean, there's always kind
of a way of spinning it.
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Yeah. Yeah. "Well, that's what
a Faithful would do. I'm Faithful."
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Yeah. I think tonight, though,
the real star of the mission,
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for me, was Charlie.
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So, let's have another
look at Charlie in the mission.
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This is for Bristol!
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CHEERING
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Get in!
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I'm so happy.
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Whoo!
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No matter what happens to me
in this game,
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that was the proudest moment
of my life.
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She's brilliant, and we've not heard
a huge amount
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from her in the build-up... No.
251
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..but now she's really announced
herself into the game, I think.
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Screaming, "This is for Bristol,"
at the top of her voice
253
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as she launches a catapult. Yeah.
254
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It was that slo-mo through the
field for me. Yeah. It was like...
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I just want to see that slowed down
and sexed up.
256
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I think she's going
to be a dark horse.
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I think she is. She's going to come
from, as you said,
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she hasn't put herself out
there,
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because I think
being a Faithful as well,
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you can't, you shouldn't be too loud
261
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and voice opinions too early
in the game. Yeah.
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Because... Because that'll knock
you out. Yeah, going to get you out.
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It'll target you.
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So, you know, she's going to come
from behind
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when the time is right, I think.
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Because there are people
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that we haven't really talked
about on this show yet. Yeah.
268
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But really that's
a compliment in terms of gameplay.
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For sure. Because those are
the people that are just going to
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sort of just be under the surface
of the water for a little bit longer
271
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and hold out until those crucial
moments, so... Yeah. We'll see.
272
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Someone who didn't hold out
until the crucial moment was Meg...
273
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Aw! ..who was unfortunately
murdered.
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She had to be murdered.
275
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That was their only option,
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because it was obviously
between Paul and Meg at the end,
277
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because they were the two
remaining dungeon dwellers.
278
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Yes. And so they had
to kill Meg,
279
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but she already had a lot
of suspicion on her
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as a potential Traitor,
281
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so I think she would
have been banished.
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What do you think she was doing
283
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that had got
all that suspicion onto her?
284
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I think it's what she wasn't doing.
285
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I think, I'm sure she's
a really nice girl,
286
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and I actually can't wait
to chat to her,
287
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you can be a really strong person
288
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and then you go into a room
and there's five other people
289
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who are stronger characters
than you,
290
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and it does something
to people's, like, I don't know,
291
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psyche or whatever,
and it changes. It does.
292
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And I think she just became
within herself
293
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and that raised suspicion.
294
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And if you give an opinion,
you have to back it up.
295
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Yeah. Yeah. Obviously, right at
the start of tonight's episode,
296
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we got to see Ash
reveal herself as a Traitor.
297
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Yeah. How would you assess her time
as a Traitor?
298
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I think she was
the weakest link. Mm.
299
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You know, did she deserve for
the other Traitors
300
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to not stick by her so early?
301
00:12:04,275 --> 00:12:09,395
That's questionable, because I do
believe we've got Team Faithfuls,
302
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Team Traitors, and we should...
303
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I know it's called Traitors,
but we should keep sort of
304
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a team alliance for a certain amount
of time.
305
00:12:16,675 --> 00:12:19,075
But she was...
306
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Yeah, she was the weakest link,
definitely.
307
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Yeah. She was just giving...
Her body language, everything,
308
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she was just giving too much away.
309
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She was.
And having met her now on this show,
310
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she's just the most effusive,
lovely person,
311
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very warm personality.
312
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But she really does give a lot
away of her personality. Aw.
313
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I think she just immediately
wants to talk to people.
314
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Yeah. And for some reason, that got
a lot of suspicion onto her
315
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that she was going round asking
people questions
316
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and trying to work out
what the lay of the land was.
317
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Yeah. And that was the first port
of call for her banishment.
318
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Yeah, she was trying too much
to see what people's thoughts were
319
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rather than just letting it
run a little bit.
320
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Let it run and just guide it gently.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
321
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I also think the other Traitors
stabbing her in the back
322
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this so, so, so early,
323
00:13:01,315 --> 00:13:04,235
it's opened the gates to say
anything can happen.
324
00:13:04,235 --> 00:13:06,355
Does it feel more brutal,
this series, do you think?
325
00:13:06,355 --> 00:13:08,355
Yeah. It feels so much
more brutal. Yeah.
326
00:13:08,355 --> 00:13:12,955
I think from the off-start,
everybody's in it for themselves.
327
00:13:12,955 --> 00:13:16,355
Yeah. Everyone, you know?
And that comes across.
328
00:13:16,355 --> 00:13:17,635
Yeah. Definitely.
329
00:13:17,635 --> 00:13:20,155
It's exciting, though, as a viewer,
isn't it? Yeah, it is, yeah.
330
00:13:20,155 --> 00:13:22,075
That first night this launched,
I was like,
331
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"I'm just going to watch
the first one.
332
00:13:23,675 --> 00:13:25,875
"Oh, go on, we'll just put two on.
Oh, it's midnight.
333
00:13:25,875 --> 00:13:28,595
Oh, go on, we'll just... It was,
like, two in the morning,
334
00:13:28,595 --> 00:13:30,835
three in the morning,
I was pacing up in the bedroom,
335
00:13:30,835 --> 00:13:33,075
like, needing to see the next fix
of it. I know.
336
00:13:33,075 --> 00:13:34,355
It's fantastic. It's the best show.
337
00:13:34,355 --> 00:13:36,235
I shouldn't say it,
but it's the best show.
338
00:13:36,235 --> 00:13:38,195
Well, your video,
if you were in The Traitors,
339
00:13:38,195 --> 00:13:40,195
would be you watching old episodes
of The Traitors? Yeah.
340
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I mean, I wouldn't be sitting
like this, let me tell you.
341
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It would be untucked!
342
00:13:45,995 --> 00:13:48,315
I think they would jump
at the chance to have that.
343
00:13:48,315 --> 00:13:49,955
I think they should.
I think they should.
344
00:13:49,955 --> 00:13:51,155
Yeah, they should. Yeah.
345
00:13:51,155 --> 00:13:53,355
Now we're going through
this process today,
346
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I'm starting to think I'd be
a crap Traitor,
347
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because I'm a bit like Ash.
348
00:13:56,995 --> 00:13:58,275
I like chatting to people. Yeah.
349
00:13:58,275 --> 00:14:00,675
I'm a bit too gobby and wear
me heart on me sleeve.
350
00:14:00,675 --> 00:14:03,115
Oh, no, I think you'd be brilliant.
What're you trying to say?
351
00:14:03,115 --> 00:14:04,395
I think you would, you know...
352
00:14:04,395 --> 00:14:06,915
Also, if any of them
caught sight of you with your hood
353
00:14:06,915 --> 00:14:08,355
just pulled over your wig...
Yeah. Yeah.
354
00:14:08,355 --> 00:14:09,955
..it'd be pretty obvious,
wouldn't it? Yeah. Yeah.
355
00:14:09,955 --> 00:14:11,315
Is that Claudia?
356
00:14:11,315 --> 00:14:13,355
LAUGHTER
357
00:14:14,755 --> 00:14:17,155
So, now is the moment you've all
been waiting for,
358
00:14:17,155 --> 00:14:20,195
our Faithful murdered Meg
and banished Jonny
359
00:14:20,195 --> 00:14:23,035
finally find out who the Traitors
actually are.
360
00:14:23,035 --> 00:14:24,195
Now, do bear in mind,
361
00:14:24,195 --> 00:14:27,115
this was filmed the day after Meg
and Jonny left the game,
362
00:14:27,115 --> 00:14:29,955
so Meg doesn't even know
whether Jonny is a Traitor or not.
363
00:14:29,955 --> 00:14:31,035
Let's have a look.
364
00:14:34,195 --> 00:14:35,555
Jonny, what the hell?
365
00:14:35,555 --> 00:14:37,835
I know! Oh, my gosh!
Come here.
366
00:14:37,835 --> 00:14:39,475
God!
367
00:14:39,475 --> 00:14:40,955
How you doing, babe? You all right?
368
00:14:43,755 --> 00:14:44,995
You got banished?
369
00:14:44,995 --> 00:14:46,875
I did. They banished me out!
370
00:14:46,875 --> 00:14:49,155
Your name didn't even
get brought up when I was there.
371
00:14:49,155 --> 00:14:51,355
I know. Not once. I know.
372
00:14:51,355 --> 00:14:55,195
OK, Jonny, can you reveal
if you're a Traitor or a Faithful?
373
00:14:56,675 --> 00:14:58,275
What do you think I am?
374
00:14:59,275 --> 00:15:00,635
I think you're a Faithful.
375
00:15:02,235 --> 00:15:03,675
Well, guess what?
376
00:15:05,715 --> 00:15:08,035
I'm a Faithful. Yay!
377
00:15:08,035 --> 00:15:10,715
Of course I'm a Faithful.
I did think you were, to be fair.
378
00:15:10,715 --> 00:15:13,155
Never would have guessed.
Do you want to do the honours? Yes!
379
00:15:13,155 --> 00:15:15,755
There you go. Oh, my God.
Oh, my goodness.
380
00:15:15,755 --> 00:15:17,955
Oh, my God. How close were we?
How wrong were we?
381
00:15:21,115 --> 00:15:22,675
OK. Oh, my God.
382
00:15:24,915 --> 00:15:26,235
Oh, my God!
383
00:15:27,755 --> 00:15:29,315
First Traitor...
384
00:15:29,315 --> 00:15:30,675
..is Harry.
385
00:15:33,115 --> 00:15:35,115
Agh! Oh, my God!
386
00:15:35,115 --> 00:15:36,835
Do you know what? I actually...
Fair play.
387
00:15:36,835 --> 00:15:38,955
Oh, I said his name as a joke.
Did you?
388
00:15:38,955 --> 00:15:41,355
I've had question marks over him,
but I tried to ignore it.
389
00:15:41,355 --> 00:15:44,115
It was because we were both
in the army, as well.
390
00:15:44,115 --> 00:15:47,035
And I thought, hmm. In the trials,
the missions,
391
00:15:47,035 --> 00:15:49,075
he's been phenomenal. Yeah.
392
00:15:49,075 --> 00:15:50,635
What a team player.
393
00:15:50,635 --> 00:15:54,275
Well, you know, he's been given
a task and he's doing it.
394
00:15:54,275 --> 00:15:57,435
But does that make you change
who else it could be?
395
00:15:57,435 --> 00:15:59,675
No. No, I'm still like...
I don't know now!
396
00:15:59,675 --> 00:16:01,515
I mean, who hasn't spoke
to Harry?
397
00:16:01,515 --> 00:16:03,275
That would be the next thing.
398
00:16:03,275 --> 00:16:04,875
Like, Jaz?
399
00:16:04,875 --> 00:16:06,795
Mm, Jaz is quiet, isn't he? Yeah.
400
00:16:06,795 --> 00:16:08,195
Paul, I don't think, really, much.
401
00:16:08,195 --> 00:16:09,435
He admires Harry, but...
402
00:16:09,435 --> 00:16:10,795
Well, come on, tell me!
403
00:16:10,795 --> 00:16:12,795
LAUGHTER
404
00:16:14,235 --> 00:16:15,595
It's Miles.
405
00:16:15,595 --> 00:16:16,755
Miles! Miles!
406
00:16:16,755 --> 00:16:20,035
I knew it could be him,
because I didn't want it to be!
407
00:16:20,035 --> 00:16:22,035
Miles! Oh, clever guy.
408
00:16:22,035 --> 00:16:24,715
Oh, my God! Nice. Wow.
409
00:16:24,715 --> 00:16:27,155
You can just imagine them all
meeting up with their cloaks on.
410
00:16:27,155 --> 00:16:29,395
Yeah. Backstabbing, you know.
JONNY MIMICS TRAITORS CACKLING
411
00:16:29,395 --> 00:16:32,115
Stirring that pot. But I think,
cos maybe the people they are,
412
00:16:32,115 --> 00:16:34,115
they're probably
hating it inside as well.
413
00:16:34,115 --> 00:16:35,755
Or unless they're
just cold and callous people.
414
00:16:35,755 --> 00:16:37,515
Miles, like, sits back
at the round table
415
00:16:37,515 --> 00:16:38,955
and doesn't
really say anything, does he?
416
00:16:38,955 --> 00:16:41,595
There you go. I did notice that.
And Harry is very much similar.
417
00:16:41,595 --> 00:16:43,275
They just go with the flow.
They do.
418
00:16:43,275 --> 00:16:44,675
That's the way they're playing it.
419
00:16:44,675 --> 00:16:46,835
Harry and Miles both voted for Ash,
420
00:16:46,835 --> 00:16:49,235
so they threw a Traitor
under the bus. Mm.
421
00:16:49,235 --> 00:16:50,715
Very clever. That is smart.
422
00:16:50,715 --> 00:16:52,355
And they let
everyone else make the decision,
423
00:16:52,355 --> 00:16:54,395
which is even worse. Very smart.
424
00:16:54,395 --> 00:16:55,435
Go on. Oh, my God!
425
00:16:55,435 --> 00:16:57,555
Put us out of our misery.
426
00:16:57,555 --> 00:16:59,395
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
427
00:17:01,995 --> 00:17:03,635
You're joking! Paul.
428
00:17:06,115 --> 00:17:07,395
You're joking me!
429
00:17:07,395 --> 00:17:09,315
You're actually...
LAUGHTER
430
00:17:09,315 --> 00:17:12,715
So, I had a feeling with Paul
that he was using real emotions,
431
00:17:12,715 --> 00:17:15,235
do you know what I mean? Thinking
about things... What an actor.
432
00:17:15,235 --> 00:17:17,435
What an actor. He was fantastic
in the dungeon and all.
433
00:17:17,435 --> 00:17:19,235
I just thought he was a Faithful.
434
00:17:19,235 --> 00:17:21,475
Jesus Christ, so there was two
Traitors down there
435
00:17:21,475 --> 00:17:23,235
and one upstairs.
436
00:17:23,235 --> 00:17:24,835
I mean, look, there they are
in print.
437
00:17:24,835 --> 00:17:28,595
Oh, Harry, Miles and Paul.
438
00:17:28,595 --> 00:17:30,195
Well, they're a good Traitors team.
439
00:17:30,195 --> 00:17:32,475
They actually are. I actually...
I can't mock that.
440
00:17:32,475 --> 00:17:33,835
CHEERING
441
00:17:33,835 --> 00:17:35,475
Yes, he knew it was Miles
442
00:17:35,475 --> 00:17:38,115
just seconds after reading it
on a sheet of paper.
443
00:17:38,115 --> 00:17:39,875
Jonny joins us in the studio.
444
00:17:39,875 --> 00:17:42,355
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
445
00:17:43,915 --> 00:17:45,515
Jonny, welcome.
446
00:17:45,515 --> 00:17:46,955
So sad to see you go.
447
00:17:46,955 --> 00:17:48,835
Is it something
that you were expecting?
448
00:17:48,835 --> 00:17:51,755
In my heart, I could feel
an energy shift.
449
00:17:51,755 --> 00:17:53,035
And I was thinking,
450
00:17:53,035 --> 00:17:55,795
"Have I said something wrong?
Have I done something?"
451
00:17:55,795 --> 00:17:58,475
You could just kind of pick up
on the atmosphere change,
452
00:17:58,475 --> 00:18:01,915
so I had a small feeling that
something was going to kick off
453
00:18:01,915 --> 00:18:03,395
round that round table.
454
00:18:03,395 --> 00:18:05,515
But you don't know
until you're sat there.
455
00:18:05,515 --> 00:18:09,235
So, it's yes and no, to answer that.
456
00:18:09,235 --> 00:18:11,035
I think from our perspective,
457
00:18:11,035 --> 00:18:13,075
it all turned against you so quickly.
458
00:18:13,075 --> 00:18:14,555
Yes. Like, the previous episode,
459
00:18:14,555 --> 00:18:16,955
I don't think anyone was even
really looking at you
460
00:18:16,955 --> 00:18:19,595
and then suddenly someone
pipes up with...
461
00:18:19,595 --> 00:18:22,475
I think the issue was
you were too nice.
462
00:18:22,475 --> 00:18:25,195
Yeah, I have that problem
in life.
463
00:18:25,195 --> 00:18:28,595
It doesn't always do you good,
does it, when you're too nice?
464
00:18:28,595 --> 00:18:31,475
Ross and Jasmine were quite strong
characters in there,
465
00:18:31,475 --> 00:18:33,235
and the minute I went for them,
466
00:18:33,235 --> 00:18:35,555
that's where I shot myself in
the foot. No pun intended.
467
00:18:35,555 --> 00:18:37,355
Can I ask, now you've
seen it back,
468
00:18:37,355 --> 00:18:39,835
is there, like, a bit of sour
grapes?
469
00:18:39,835 --> 00:18:42,195
Not at all. Oh, I would be.
Really? I think.
470
00:18:42,195 --> 00:18:45,115
Oh, I think... I take my hat
off to you. Oh, yeah.
471
00:18:45,115 --> 00:18:47,275
Oh, I bantered the moment,
don't get me wrong.
472
00:18:47,275 --> 00:18:48,635
You buggers! I'd be fuming!
473
00:18:48,635 --> 00:18:51,115
You seem to suggest... Oh,
he is so nice. Yeah, he's lovely.
474
00:18:51,115 --> 00:18:53,755
You seemed to suggest, in that
in that VT that we just saw,
475
00:18:53,755 --> 00:18:56,355
that you did have suspicions
about all of the Traitors.
476
00:18:56,355 --> 00:18:58,195
I thought everyone was a Traitor.
477
00:18:58,195 --> 00:19:00,275
I feel like... Who's a Traitor here?
Everyone.
478
00:19:00,275 --> 00:19:04,515
No, I just... I... Because you don't
know who's on your team,
479
00:19:04,515 --> 00:19:06,075
and that's what people
don't realise.
480
00:19:06,075 --> 00:19:08,115
It's like Team Faithful,
Team Traitors.
481
00:19:08,115 --> 00:19:11,035
Team Faithful don't know
who's on their team. Mm-hm.
482
00:19:11,035 --> 00:19:12,395
So you're looking at everyone.
483
00:19:12,395 --> 00:19:15,315
And the minute I went to go and talk
to someone, I was like,
484
00:19:15,315 --> 00:19:17,475
"Oh, no, that could be a Traitor
I'm talking to." Yeah.
485
00:19:17,475 --> 00:19:19,315
So I naturally felt reserved,
486
00:19:19,315 --> 00:19:22,235
but I didn't want to be,
but I just didn't know who to trust,
487
00:19:22,235 --> 00:19:24,475
so it was like that...
It's the paranoia, isn't it?
488
00:19:24,475 --> 00:19:26,275
Yes, massively.
It does really get to you.
489
00:19:26,275 --> 00:19:27,795
You wouldn't know
you were a Traitor.
490
00:19:27,795 --> 00:19:30,115
Yes, I know, but I was trying
to feel it. OK?
491
00:19:30,115 --> 00:19:31,755
You were trying to feel the paranoia.
492
00:19:31,755 --> 00:19:34,555
That's how method you were.
Yeah.
493
00:19:34,555 --> 00:19:36,155
In your mindset, you were
a Faithful.
494
00:19:36,155 --> 00:19:38,795
I've never thought of it like that.
How stupid am I that...
495
00:19:38,795 --> 00:19:41,115
Of course you don't know
who's on your team. No. No.
496
00:19:41,115 --> 00:19:43,715
You said something very canny
about Paul in that video, actually,
497
00:19:43,715 --> 00:19:46,635
that you felt like he was using
real emotions
498
00:19:46,635 --> 00:19:48,995
and then putting them out
in The Traitors... Yes.
499
00:19:48,995 --> 00:19:50,795
..as if he was a Faithful.
500
00:19:50,795 --> 00:19:52,635
And I think there was that
moment where
501
00:19:52,635 --> 00:19:54,115
he started to get a bit emotional.
502
00:19:54,115 --> 00:19:57,195
He started to cry about going
home to see his family. Mm-hm.
503
00:19:57,195 --> 00:19:59,875
And I think that was a genuine
emotion that he somehow managed...
504
00:19:59,875 --> 00:20:03,115
Yes. ..to manipulate into looking
like he was a Faithful.
505
00:20:03,115 --> 00:20:05,475
So, you know, I was very...
506
00:20:05,475 --> 00:20:09,715
I related to Paul in the sense of,
I've got two young children
507
00:20:09,715 --> 00:20:13,315
and your emotions are up there
compared to normal.
508
00:20:13,315 --> 00:20:17,755
And, you know, you're tired, you're
stressed, adrenaline's pumping.
509
00:20:17,755 --> 00:20:20,475
And if I was just to think about my
children,
510
00:20:20,475 --> 00:20:22,915
I would have probably
felt really emotional.
511
00:20:22,915 --> 00:20:25,795
Yeah. So I... Even if it was...
512
00:20:25,795 --> 00:20:28,395
I believe they were real emotions
and I still do to this day,
513
00:20:28,395 --> 00:20:31,115
because all he had to do was think
of his children and he would get
514
00:20:31,115 --> 00:20:33,635
upset because I knew that's what
would happen if I did. Yeah.
515
00:20:33,635 --> 00:20:36,835
So I tried my hardest
to put them back,
516
00:20:36,835 --> 00:20:39,955
and I think, when I saw Paul upset,
517
00:20:39,955 --> 00:20:43,115
irregardless, they were real
emotions and I could feel it.
518
00:20:43,115 --> 00:20:46,755
And that's why it hit me hard
as well, because he started talking
519
00:20:46,755 --> 00:20:49,235
about his children and straight
away, woof!
520
00:20:49,235 --> 00:20:51,955
Yeah. I felt that as well, and
that's why I was like, you know,
521
00:20:51,955 --> 00:20:54,475
I've had to comfort him.
You mentioned your relationship
522
00:20:54,475 --> 00:20:56,915
with Harry, obviously, the Army
link, the sort of...
523
00:20:56,915 --> 00:21:00,075
I mean, I think Harry described it
as a brotherhood... Yes.
524
00:21:00,075 --> 00:21:02,035
..on the show. Naturally.
Yeah, naturally,
525
00:21:02,035 --> 00:21:04,595
which made him feel a little bit
guilty
526
00:21:04,595 --> 00:21:08,675
about having to go against you, but
he did do it quite quickly, anyway.
527
00:21:08,675 --> 00:21:10,515
Yeah, he did, didn't he?
ED CHUCKLES
528
00:21:10,515 --> 00:21:12,235
When you think about it.
529
00:21:12,235 --> 00:21:16,355
Do you think, if the roles were
reversed, if you were a Traitor,
530
00:21:16,355 --> 00:21:19,555
would you have been able to go
against Harry in the same way?
531
00:21:19,555 --> 00:21:21,035
That's a tough question.
532
00:21:21,035 --> 00:21:25,195
So the reason why I'm so
understanding with Harry now
533
00:21:25,195 --> 00:21:31,275
is because I was his age, his rank,
and that's when I was still serving.
534
00:21:31,275 --> 00:21:35,195
If I was given a task, irregardless
of how I felt, how we're trained
535
00:21:35,195 --> 00:21:37,515
in the army, you complete
that mission.
536
00:21:37,515 --> 00:21:39,955
You've been given a mission.
You complete that mission.
537
00:21:39,955 --> 00:21:42,435
But he had the squeeze on the
shoulder, so he had to do a job.
538
00:21:42,435 --> 00:21:44,995
He had to do it, yeah. I mean,
irregardless of the fact
539
00:21:44,995 --> 00:21:46,835
that he did vote for you at
Banishment
540
00:21:46,835 --> 00:21:48,675
and he knew that's what
he was aiming to do...
541
00:21:48,675 --> 00:21:50,835
Go on, stir the pot, babe.
Go on, stir it!
542
00:21:50,835 --> 00:21:53,195
No, I'm saying I think
his emotions were genuine
543
00:21:53,195 --> 00:21:55,275
and he did feel bad about it.
Yeah, yes.
544
00:21:55,275 --> 00:21:57,955
And we've actually got a little VT
of his reaction after
545
00:21:57,955 --> 00:22:00,755
you were banished. Aw! So let's have
a little reminder of that.
546
00:22:00,755 --> 00:22:02,035
Oh, God!
547
00:22:03,115 --> 00:22:05,155
I'm, like, baffled.
I'm completely baffled.
548
00:22:05,155 --> 00:22:06,515
Harry, Harry, he still loves you.
549
00:22:06,515 --> 00:22:07,755
Don't get upset.
550
00:22:09,035 --> 00:22:11,035
Oh, bless him.
551
00:22:11,035 --> 00:22:12,275
It's all good, Harry.
552
00:22:12,275 --> 00:22:14,435
You've got to go with the brethrens.
553
00:22:14,435 --> 00:22:15,955
OK?
554
00:22:15,955 --> 00:22:18,395
Honestly, please don't beat yourself
up, please.
555
00:22:18,395 --> 00:22:19,915
It's so hard to see.
556
00:22:22,755 --> 00:22:25,755
How does watching that video
of Harry make you feel?
557
00:22:25,755 --> 00:22:28,195
Because he clearly
was cut up about it.
558
00:22:28,195 --> 00:22:31,515
Yeah, I can feel the emotions
in there, because...
559
00:22:31,515 --> 00:22:34,355
I understand that feeling and I
don't like seeing anyone upset,
560
00:22:34,355 --> 00:22:36,675
especially when I'm involved in it.
561
00:22:36,675 --> 00:22:38,475
It's hard to watch it back,
to be honest.
562
00:22:38,475 --> 00:22:40,155
There's a part of me...
563
00:22:40,155 --> 00:22:41,995
Is he still on your Christmas
list, though?
564
00:22:41,995 --> 00:22:44,395
100%. Oh, is he? Yeah.
565
00:22:44,395 --> 00:22:45,715
Wilf's not on mine.
566
00:22:45,715 --> 00:22:48,075
THEY LAUGH
Only joking!
567
00:22:48,075 --> 00:22:50,715
I'm sandwiched between Traitor
icons here.
568
00:22:50,715 --> 00:22:54,395
I'm like the filling in a Traitors
Oreo, and I'm loving it!
569
00:22:54,395 --> 00:22:57,035
Well, you may have noticed at home
that we're all wearing very fancy
570
00:22:57,035 --> 00:22:58,475
earpieces in the studio.
571
00:22:58,475 --> 00:23:01,395
That is because we are about
to speak to murdered Meg.
572
00:23:01,395 --> 00:23:03,515
She is Zooming in live from heaven.
573
00:23:03,515 --> 00:23:04,595
Hello, Meg.
574
00:23:04,595 --> 00:23:06,635
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Hello!
575
00:23:08,675 --> 00:23:10,475
Meg, you're not really in heaven,
are you?
576
00:23:10,475 --> 00:23:12,115
You're on holiday
because you thought,
577
00:23:12,115 --> 00:23:15,475
"Hey, I don't need to do Uncloaked.
I'll go on me hols!"
578
00:23:16,795 --> 00:23:19,155
Who needs heaven anyway,
when you've got the sea anyway?
579
00:23:19,155 --> 00:23:20,635
No-one needs it, do they?
580
00:23:20,635 --> 00:23:22,915
Thank you so much for joining us.
581
00:23:22,915 --> 00:23:26,475
Now, Meg, going back to the video
of you finding out who the Traitors
582
00:23:26,475 --> 00:23:29,715
were, you seemed a little bit
more surprised than Jonny was.
583
00:23:29,715 --> 00:23:30,995
at who the Traitors were.
584
00:23:30,995 --> 00:23:34,915
In fact, I think there was a big
gasp for every single name.
585
00:23:34,915 --> 00:23:39,355
Yeah, to be fair, like, I just had
no idea at all, to be honest, ever.
586
00:23:39,355 --> 00:23:40,555
I was always wrong.
587
00:23:40,555 --> 00:23:43,075
Everyone I said, I was like,
"No, not that one."
588
00:23:43,075 --> 00:23:45,235
Or just, I'd have a new theory
every day.
589
00:23:45,235 --> 00:23:47,955
Just, in the end, I just went
with it, to be honest.
590
00:23:47,955 --> 00:23:50,115
Went with my gut, and that was that.
591
00:23:50,115 --> 00:23:52,995
Even when you were in the dungeon
with two Traitors,
592
00:23:52,995 --> 00:23:55,515
so you're obviously in there
with Andrew, who was a Faithful,
593
00:23:55,515 --> 00:23:57,715
and then Paul and Ash,
who were both Traitors,
594
00:23:57,715 --> 00:23:59,395
you had all day in that dungeon
with them,
595
00:23:59,395 --> 00:24:02,995
did you start to suss out anything
about them while you were in there?
596
00:24:02,995 --> 00:24:04,395
Um, yeah.
597
00:24:04,395 --> 00:24:07,995
To be fair, you do kind of start
to... When you're vulnerable,
598
00:24:07,995 --> 00:24:10,395
like, you're most vulnerable,
they are as well in there.
599
00:24:10,395 --> 00:24:15,075
It was quite a quite a complicated
day, that, but, yeah,
600
00:24:15,075 --> 00:24:16,875
it was just really unpleasant
601
00:24:16,875 --> 00:24:19,195
and we all were in it together
at that point.
602
00:24:19,195 --> 00:24:22,315
But also, you know that they were
kind of sussing you out as much
603
00:24:22,315 --> 00:24:25,235
as you were trying to suss them out.
And under conditions like that,
604
00:24:25,235 --> 00:24:27,955
I just feel like none of it was
accurate, to be honest, none of it.
605
00:24:27,955 --> 00:24:31,995
Now, suspicion was building
against you, Meg.
606
00:24:31,995 --> 00:24:34,995
I think, you know, maybe
your cards were numbered
607
00:24:34,995 --> 00:24:37,395
even before you got murdered.
There was a lot of suspicion
608
00:24:37,395 --> 00:24:39,595
building up, especially
as you were in the dungeon.
609
00:24:39,595 --> 00:24:42,875
They thought you might have been the
Traitor who'd put herself in there.
610
00:24:42,875 --> 00:24:48,235
Now, Diane certainly had her
laser-guided sights set on you.
611
00:24:48,235 --> 00:24:50,675
Let's have a little reminder
of what Diane said.
612
00:24:50,675 --> 00:24:53,475
Hi, gorgeous. You OK?
Yes, absolutely.
613
00:24:53,475 --> 00:24:55,675
So if I go tomorrow, which I will do
tonight,
614
00:24:55,675 --> 00:24:57,555
these are your Traitors, OK?
615
00:24:57,555 --> 00:24:58,915
Oh, God, here we go.
616
00:24:58,915 --> 00:25:01,195
I know you don't want to know
what I've got to say, but honestly,
617
00:25:01,195 --> 00:25:04,035
I think Ash, Meg and Anthony
are Traitors.
618
00:25:04,035 --> 00:25:07,235
You think Meg? OK? I have thought
for a few days.
619
00:25:07,235 --> 00:25:12,355
There we go. That is the place any
Traitors player would be fearful of.
620
00:25:12,355 --> 00:25:14,795
But Meg and Anthony, she's...
Again, Diane's had something
621
00:25:14,795 --> 00:25:17,115
against Anthony from the beginning
of the whole game.
622
00:25:17,115 --> 00:25:19,995
But why do you think you had any
suspicion building up against you,
623
00:25:19,995 --> 00:25:22,475
Meg, what was it? I mean,
I'll be honest,
624
00:25:22,475 --> 00:25:24,915
I was quite quiet in there at
multiple points.
625
00:25:24,915 --> 00:25:27,195
There were a lot bigger
personalities than me,
626
00:25:27,195 --> 00:25:29,915
and at points, I just thought,
"Actually, it's probably better
627
00:25:29,915 --> 00:25:31,675
"to just keep my gob shut
than open it."
628
00:25:31,675 --> 00:25:35,235
But maybe in certain moments
I should have talked more.
629
00:25:35,235 --> 00:25:38,875
But in general, I just never knew,
because they were voting people
630
00:25:38,875 --> 00:25:40,515
that talked too much... Exactly.
631
00:25:40,515 --> 00:25:43,195
..and they were weighing people up
that didn't talk at all.
632
00:25:43,195 --> 00:25:47,035
So, you know, you never
know how to be in there.
633
00:25:47,035 --> 00:25:49,475
It was always very complicated,
634
00:25:49,475 --> 00:25:52,515
and I just decided to just
be on the back burner
635
00:25:52,515 --> 00:25:54,155
and watch it all happen,
to be honest.
636
00:25:54,155 --> 00:25:55,675
Thank you both so much
for coming on.
637
00:25:55,675 --> 00:25:58,035
You're absolutely amazing players.
It's a delight to meet you
638
00:25:58,035 --> 00:25:59,835
and we're sorry to say goodbye to
you so early.
639
00:25:59,835 --> 00:26:01,995
Big round of applause for Jonny
and Megan.
640
00:26:01,995 --> 00:26:03,915
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
641
00:26:05,635 --> 00:26:09,195
OK, Danny and Amanda, I'm going to
get some predictions from you now.
642
00:26:09,195 --> 00:26:10,435
You two, keep quiet,
643
00:26:10,435 --> 00:26:13,435
just in case you've got privileged
information, OK? Zip it.
644
00:26:13,435 --> 00:26:17,355
Now, what do you think's going
to happen in tomorrow night's show?
645
00:26:17,355 --> 00:26:18,795
We've obviously...
646
00:26:18,795 --> 00:26:21,195
There's three people who could
potentially be murdered.
647
00:26:21,195 --> 00:26:22,675
Who did we think it was going to be?
648
00:26:22,675 --> 00:26:25,835
I think... Well, I think if they go
for Charlotte,
649
00:26:25,835 --> 00:26:28,875
it's going to disrupt the whole
sort of... That's the smart move.
650
00:26:28,875 --> 00:26:31,795
Yeah, smart move, and there'll
be no sort of links
651
00:26:31,795 --> 00:26:34,555
which is just going to get everyone
talking then, and it's like
652
00:26:34,555 --> 00:26:36,635
a little firework going off
in there, isn't it?
653
00:26:36,635 --> 00:26:39,515
Do you think they're going to get
better at catching Traitors?
654
00:26:39,515 --> 00:26:42,435
They've obviously got one, but then
they started to talk about,
655
00:26:42,435 --> 00:26:44,955
"We've got Ash. We can catch
more Traitors now,
656
00:26:44,955 --> 00:26:47,715
"keep that momentum going." And then
they banished Jonny. Yeah.
657
00:26:47,715 --> 00:26:51,155
I think they get ahead of themselves
so no, I don't.
658
00:26:51,155 --> 00:26:54,235
You don't? No, I don't. I think
we're going to see the Traitors
659
00:26:54,235 --> 00:26:55,835
get away with a little bit more.
660
00:26:55,835 --> 00:26:59,155
I think Harry might come
under suspicion of it.
661
00:26:59,155 --> 00:27:01,035
Do you? Yeah, I do.
662
00:27:01,035 --> 00:27:04,355
Because although he's down now,
I think the way he reacted,
663
00:27:04,355 --> 00:27:06,115
people are going to...
664
00:27:06,115 --> 00:27:09,515
There's a little, you know, seed
been sown there
665
00:27:09,515 --> 00:27:11,555
and you watch it grow. Yeah.
I honestly think...
666
00:27:11,555 --> 00:27:14,155
Do you think people are going to
start saying that was guilt?
667
00:27:14,155 --> 00:27:18,395
Yeah, and I think if he does
come up on that table,
668
00:27:18,395 --> 00:27:20,715
Paul is just going to throw him
under the bus. Oh, 100%, yeah.
669
00:27:20,715 --> 00:27:21,995
He's not going to protect him.
670
00:27:21,995 --> 00:27:24,595
But that's the very, very...
That's the really lovely thing
671
00:27:24,595 --> 00:27:27,435
about this show, is that when
they find a Traitor,
672
00:27:27,435 --> 00:27:29,355
very exciting,
you're rooting for them.
673
00:27:29,355 --> 00:27:32,835
And then when the Traitors get away
with it, it's delicious, isn't it?
674
00:27:34,475 --> 00:27:36,075
Now, here's something very exciting.
675
00:27:36,075 --> 00:27:39,675
You've heard our guests'
predictions, but do you agree?
676
00:27:39,675 --> 00:27:41,515
Well, now you can play along at home
677
00:27:41,515 --> 00:27:44,675
with our brand-new BBC Traitors
Predictor game.
678
00:27:44,675 --> 00:27:48,195
You can find it at...
679
00:27:48,195 --> 00:27:52,595
..and you can predict what's going
to happen in the next episode.
680
00:27:52,595 --> 00:27:54,835
And of course, Episode 6
of the Traitors hits BBC One
681
00:27:54,835 --> 00:27:59,195
and iPlayer at 9pm on Friday,
with apparently, I've just been told
682
00:27:59,195 --> 00:28:03,515
on my iPad... No, don't! ..a very
tense cliffhanger ending.
683
00:28:03,515 --> 00:28:05,475
Shock, horror!
684
00:28:05,475 --> 00:28:08,515
Every episode's
a cliffhanger ending!
685
00:28:08,515 --> 00:28:11,995
Can you cope, Danny?
I can't cope, no!
686
00:28:11,995 --> 00:28:16,035
God! Danny, Amanda, Jonny and Meg,
thank you so much for joining us.
687
00:28:16,035 --> 00:28:17,555
You've been absolutely amazing.
688
00:28:17,555 --> 00:28:20,275
But there's so much more that I want
to keep talking to you about.
689
00:28:20,275 --> 00:28:22,555
So we keep going on BBC Sounds.
690
00:28:22,555 --> 00:28:24,835
We will have plenty more chat
with these guys.
691
00:28:24,835 --> 00:28:26,715
But for now from Traitors Uncloaked,
692
00:28:26,715 --> 00:28:30,515
I'll see you after the next episode.
I've been Ed Gamble. Stay faithful.
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