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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 928 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,020 Is it working? 929 00:00:49,110 --> 00:00:50,860 Well, with your permission Prime Minister 930 00:00:51,150 --> 00:00:56,820 according to the rules, I am informing you that you are being investigated. 931 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:58,950 You don't have to say anything 932 00:00:58,990 --> 00:01:04,500 but everything that you say is documented, and may be used against you in a court of law. 933 00:01:19,660 --> 00:01:22,480 Nothing concentrates the mind 934 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,040 like the prospect of being hanged. 935 00:01:26,580 --> 00:01:30,750 With Netanyahu, nothing concentrates his mind 936 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,340 more than the sound 937 00:01:33,460 --> 00:01:35,850 of the prison gate 938 00:01:35,970 --> 00:01:37,800 slammed behind his back. 939 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,490 You're asking me delusional questions 940 00:01:42,490 --> 00:01:48,040 trying to get to the bottom of my cup and ashtray. 941 00:01:48,420 --> 00:01:51,750 This is preposterous and insane. 942 00:01:51,750 --> 00:01:54,550 You're trying to incriminate the Prime Minister on nonsense. 943 00:01:54,590 --> 00:01:57,750 So, everything that he has done 944 00:01:57,870 --> 00:02:00,470 over the last five years 945 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,400 was so focused 946 00:02:03,530 --> 00:02:06,610 on that sound of the gate 947 00:02:06,750 --> 00:02:09,000 potentially slammed behind his back. 948 00:02:25,510 --> 00:02:29,060 To fully understand the chaos in the region, 949 00:02:29,180 --> 00:02:33,250 one has to look back at the Prime Minister's legal predicament. 950 00:02:35,090 --> 00:02:38,470 The corruption trial became a dominant factor 951 00:02:38,590 --> 00:02:40,720 in his decision-making. 952 00:02:43,820 --> 00:02:46,410 The engine is the corruption cases. 953 00:02:47,620 --> 00:02:51,000 And it all started with the fact that the Prime Minister 954 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,290 does not respect the law. 955 00:02:55,340 --> 00:02:58,560 Anyone that dared to touch Mr Netanyahu 956 00:02:58,690 --> 00:03:00,470 is doomed. 957 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:10,000 And after the catastrophe of the 7th of October, 958 00:03:10,130 --> 00:03:13,520 the war became another instrument to stay in power. 959 00:03:16,630 --> 00:03:19,510 He survive in a state of war. 960 00:03:19,640 --> 00:03:22,970 He survive in a state of instability. 961 00:03:23,810 --> 00:03:27,020 He survive when we fight each other. 962 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,450 He survive when our enemies fight each other. 963 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:37,340 A forever war is beneficial to Netanyahu. 964 00:03:37,460 --> 00:03:41,880 This make people feel like they are always in danger, 965 00:03:42,050 --> 00:03:43,510 like they always need him. 966 00:03:45,300 --> 00:03:48,100 There's always some huge threat. 967 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,480 I think that that helps him remain Prime Minister. 968 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:07,410 It's not a cover-up. It's not that he tried to kill evidence. 969 00:04:07,530 --> 00:04:09,740 He tried to kill the system! 970 00:04:09,870 --> 00:04:13,080 He took all of us hostage in this trial. 971 00:04:45,570 --> 00:04:49,120 I am a political analyst for Channel 13. 972 00:04:49,250 --> 00:04:51,370 In the news company... 973 00:04:51,490 --> 00:04:54,790 we did hundreds of investigative reports over the years, 974 00:04:54,910 --> 00:04:56,260 on everybody. 975 00:04:56,390 --> 00:04:58,630 Stories about Prime Minister Sharon, 976 00:04:58,750 --> 00:05:00,840 stories about Prime Minister Barak, 977 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,420 and I did a lot of the stories of Prime Minister Netanyahu. 978 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:10,640 Do the Netanyahus know who you are? 979 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,970 "Do the Netanyahus...?" Yes, they know. 980 00:05:14,100 --> 00:05:17,480 The Netanyahus family and Mr Netanyahu 981 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,360 single me out as one of their worst enemies 982 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,170 for the last 15 years or so. 983 00:05:24,280 --> 00:05:26,150 He sued me three times. 984 00:05:26,280 --> 00:05:28,360 But he received zero. 985 00:05:28,490 --> 00:05:30,510 There was no case. 986 00:05:32,490 --> 00:05:37,160 It got to the point that they demanded for my channel to fire me, 987 00:05:37,290 --> 00:05:41,750 or at least get me out to a long, long vacation... 988 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,420 if they want to get something from the government. 989 00:05:44,550 --> 00:05:46,830 It was me or the channel. 990 00:05:50,300 --> 00:05:54,850 Netanyahu, over the years, had many corruption cases. 991 00:05:54,970 --> 00:05:56,720 In 1997, 992 00:05:56,850 --> 00:06:00,690 he was investigated for appointing the attorney general 993 00:06:00,810 --> 00:06:02,870 in some corrupt deal. 994 00:06:04,190 --> 00:06:09,070 Later, he was interrogated for getting gifts. 995 00:06:11,610 --> 00:06:17,950 Also, one case that starts from investigative reports that I made, 996 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:22,880 it's about the submarines deal that Israel has with Germany. 997 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,140 But he was never prosecuted. 998 00:06:29,010 --> 00:06:32,550 When you do something wrong and you get away with it, 999 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,100 once, and twice, and three times, and 10 times, and 20 times, 1000 00:06:36,220 --> 00:06:38,390 you are beginning to think you are immune, 1001 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,140 that nothing will touch you. 1002 00:06:42,230 --> 00:06:47,150 So, it wasn't long before Netanyahu was into trouble, again. 1003 00:07:07,820 --> 00:07:12,490 A few rules, your honor the Prime Minister, and then we will continue the investigation. 1004 00:07:12,740 --> 00:07:16,160 Just so I understand, these are the suspicions that you raise 1005 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,910 in this specific investigation or in any investigation? 1006 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,000 In this investigation. 1007 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,120 But there could be other investigations? 1008 00:07:23,170 --> 00:07:24,250 That's correct. 1009 00:07:26,230 --> 00:07:30,940 The police, because it was a Prime Minister investigation 1010 00:07:31,070 --> 00:07:35,820 and they knew that it will be very high-profile, 1011 00:07:35,950 --> 00:07:37,910 they investigated everybody. 1012 00:07:38,030 --> 00:07:39,700 I mean hundreds of people. 1013 00:07:39,830 --> 00:07:43,120 Some of the witnesses were interrogated twice, 1014 00:07:43,250 --> 00:07:46,000 three times, four times. 1015 00:07:46,130 --> 00:07:48,710 You have a rare opportunity 1016 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,630 to see the most powerful people in Israel 1017 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,840 in interrogation rooms, 1018 00:07:54,970 --> 00:07:58,510 dealing with questions that were never being asked. 1019 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,470 "What did you give? What did you get? 1020 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,930 "How many times you met him?" 1021 00:08:03,060 --> 00:08:07,030 And you see people in the most tense part of their life. 1022 00:08:08,170 --> 00:08:11,340 We always pay when we go out with them. 1023 00:08:11,550 --> 00:08:14,470 Why do you always pay? Ask them. 1024 00:08:15,970 --> 00:08:18,010 All of Bibi's friends are rich. 1025 00:08:18,010 --> 00:08:20,850 So that's the essence of your friendship? Money? 1026 00:08:21,350 --> 00:08:24,480 What can I say? If this comes out I'm dead. 1027 00:08:24,980 --> 00:08:27,360 "Get me a Cohiba Behike cigar." 1028 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:28,940 That's what he asked for? 1029 00:08:28,940 --> 00:08:32,190 $1100 US for a box of ten. 1030 00:08:32,190 --> 00:08:33,280 Wow. 1031 00:08:33,820 --> 00:08:38,660 I'll give you whatever you want, I just don't know... Something criminal you mean? 1032 00:08:38,660 --> 00:08:40,660 We're reviewing criminal activity. 1033 00:08:41,250 --> 00:08:44,830 There was a whole industry, that until today... 1034 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,580 An industry of what? 1035 00:08:46,580 --> 00:08:51,300 An industry of high value gifts that you can't even imagine. 1036 00:08:51,420 --> 00:08:52,800 From whom to whom? 1037 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,130 Without specifying which gifts at which time-periods. 1038 00:08:55,260 --> 00:08:59,350 From super wealthy millionaires to Sara and Bibi. 1039 00:09:02,700 --> 00:09:05,370 Netanyahu, he keeps around him, 1040 00:09:05,500 --> 00:09:08,750 almost in every part in the world, 1041 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,460 someone like a sugar daddy. 1042 00:09:11,590 --> 00:09:15,420 Everything you need that was not supported by the country, 1043 00:09:15,550 --> 00:09:16,880 he will do it for you. 1044 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,390 But when those guys has interest in Israel... 1045 00:09:21,510 --> 00:09:23,930 business interests or some other interest... 1046 00:09:24,060 --> 00:09:27,270 then it became very, very problematic. 1047 00:09:28,420 --> 00:09:32,380 Our first question for you is whether you, or any of your family members 1048 00:09:32,460 --> 00:09:37,630 have received any gifts or favors from wealthy businessmen in the last decade. 1049 00:09:38,140 --> 00:09:39,970 If I have received any gifts? 1050 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:42,890 I received things from close friends... 1051 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,640 from close acquaintances... 1052 00:09:45,730 --> 00:09:49,650 like cigars and things like that. 1053 00:09:49,690 --> 00:09:52,650 But only from close friends. That's not an illegal gift. 1054 00:09:52,730 --> 00:09:54,690 From what I've been told. 1055 00:09:55,690 --> 00:09:59,610 Please tell us, who are those close friends? Those you define as close friends. 1056 00:09:59,700 --> 00:10:01,620 And what did you get from them? 1057 00:10:01,700 --> 00:10:03,700 Very close friends... 1058 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,710 that I have known for many years... 1059 00:10:08,710 --> 00:10:10,460 I have quite a few of those. 1060 00:10:11,420 --> 00:10:13,040 The question is who? 1061 00:10:16,730 --> 00:10:18,400 If you wanted to make a movie 1062 00:10:18,530 --> 00:10:21,020 about a fabulously wealthy Israeli entrepreneur 1063 00:10:21,140 --> 00:10:23,030 who strikes it rich in Hollywood 1064 00:10:23,150 --> 00:10:26,870 after a successful career as an international arms dealer 1065 00:10:26,990 --> 00:10:29,660 and undercover operative for his government, 1066 00:10:29,790 --> 00:10:32,790 well, there's only one person to produce it - Arnon Milchan. 1067 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,730 It's his life story. 1068 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,760 Arnon Milchan, it's a... 1069 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,180 it's extraordinary story. 1070 00:10:43,300 --> 00:10:45,220 Arnon Milchan is an Israeli guy 1071 00:10:45,350 --> 00:10:50,600 who rise to fame by becoming a Hollywood producer. 1072 00:10:50,730 --> 00:10:52,190 Congratulations. 1073 00:10:54,940 --> 00:10:57,400 He produced some of the biggest hits, 1074 00:10:57,530 --> 00:10:59,570 and even won Oscars. 1075 00:11:00,820 --> 00:11:02,780 And he became a tycoon. 1076 00:11:08,180 --> 00:11:08,980 Noguchi. 1077 00:11:09,350 --> 00:11:10,020 Gauguin. 1078 00:11:10,900 --> 00:11:12,520 Blue period, Picasso. 1079 00:11:14,420 --> 00:11:16,670 He's based in the US, 1080 00:11:16,790 --> 00:11:21,330 but he always kept a really good contacts in Israel. 1081 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,800 Mostly and especially with the Prime Minister. 1082 00:11:26,930 --> 00:11:30,220 Everybody knows that if you want to speak with the Prime Minister, 1083 00:11:30,350 --> 00:11:32,230 go to Arnon. 1084 00:11:32,350 --> 00:11:34,810 If you need something from the Prime Minister, go to Arnon. 1085 00:11:34,940 --> 00:11:38,230 This relationship, it's worth a lot. 1086 00:11:53,650 --> 00:11:56,310 Why can't the Prime Minister buy things for himself? 1087 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:57,520 Ask him! Why can't the Prime Minister buy things for himself? 1088 00:11:57,610 --> 00:12:00,860 I'm asking you, because you were the one asked to buy it. 1089 00:12:00,860 --> 00:12:03,030 Because when he asks... I'm asking you, because you were the one asked to buy it. 1090 00:12:03,070 --> 00:12:08,790 and he's the Prime Minister, how do you say it? I need to help the country. 1091 00:12:08,830 --> 00:12:15,000 How is it helping the country? Is it easier to run a country with a bottle of champagne? 1092 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,040 Look... 1093 00:12:17,630 --> 00:12:20,000 If you wouldn't have given him the gifts, would you... 1094 00:12:20,010 --> 00:12:21,670 I give gifts, so what? 1095 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,220 For me... 1096 00:12:24,130 --> 00:12:25,180 It's not the end of the world. 1097 00:12:25,430 --> 00:12:29,310 It doesn't impact my financial life. 1098 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,980 Did you give other gifts? 1099 00:12:33,140 --> 00:12:37,940 To other politicians? Like you did to Netanyahu? 1100 00:12:37,980 --> 00:12:41,750 The answer is no. 1101 00:12:41,750 --> 00:12:45,300 This case, the facts are really... kind of simple. 1102 00:12:47,890 --> 00:12:50,300 The Prime Minister and his wife, Sara, 1103 00:12:50,430 --> 00:12:54,680 were getting gifts worth a quarter of a million dollars. 1104 00:12:54,810 --> 00:12:58,190 They really liked the good life. 1105 00:12:59,980 --> 00:13:01,360 And on the other side, 1106 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,310 Netanyahu did so many favours for Arnon Milchan. 1107 00:13:06,780 --> 00:13:11,030 Some people think what Arnon Milchan really did was bribe. 1108 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,700 He was bribing the Prime Minister, 1109 00:13:12,830 --> 00:13:15,580 and this was the allegation. 1110 00:13:18,670 --> 00:13:23,460 Government officials are not allowed to take gifts, period. 1111 00:13:23,590 --> 00:13:24,630 Period! 1112 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,300 This is corruption. 1113 00:13:27,380 --> 00:13:29,450 And we sent a president, 1114 00:13:29,570 --> 00:13:31,600 a minister of finance, 1115 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,020 we sent them all to prison for violating that principle, 1116 00:13:35,140 --> 00:13:37,810 that nobody is above the law. 1117 00:13:40,690 --> 00:13:43,650 The previous prime minister, Mr Olmert, 1118 00:13:43,770 --> 00:13:47,030 he was investigated for corrupt deals 1119 00:13:47,150 --> 00:13:51,700 that were much, much less than the State indicted Netanyahu for... 1120 00:13:52,780 --> 00:13:55,370 ...and was sent to jail. 1121 00:13:55,490 --> 00:13:59,500 So, it's not something vague for Netanyahu. 1122 00:13:59,620 --> 00:14:02,340 I'm sure he has a real fear that in the end, 1123 00:14:02,460 --> 00:14:03,840 he will send to jail. 1124 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,170 He might be 80 years old when it will happen, 1125 00:14:07,300 --> 00:14:09,180 but it still can happen. 1126 00:14:09,660 --> 00:14:15,290 There is a whole industry trying to incriminate me. The public, and the media 1127 00:14:15,290 --> 00:14:17,750 they're working together to incriminate me. 1128 00:14:17,750 --> 00:14:20,250 I didn't know it before, but I know it now. 1129 00:14:20,250 --> 00:14:23,590 The media creates chaos. 1130 00:14:23,590 --> 00:14:29,550 "Oh, the indulgence of the Netanyahu couple, living the life of emperors." 1131 00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:31,760 This is nonsense. 1132 00:14:38,660 --> 00:14:41,920 It starts with a flawed character. 1133 00:14:43,830 --> 00:14:46,120 It's his mindset. 1134 00:14:47,340 --> 00:14:50,760 "I deserve it, and I can get away with it." 1135 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,790 And it seemed to escalate with the years. 1136 00:14:57,890 --> 00:15:01,540 It mushroomed into something much more comprehensive. 1137 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,340 Does the sum seem reasonable to you? 1138 00:15:04,340 --> 00:15:06,550 I don't know. I can't tell you if it is reasonable or not. 1139 00:15:06,550 --> 00:15:07,340 You don't know? 1140 00:15:07,340 --> 00:15:08,260 No. 1141 00:15:08,260 --> 00:15:11,050 As a gift, is it a lot or a little? 1142 00:15:11,470 --> 00:15:16,140 If it was given all at once, I guess it's not small. 1143 00:15:16,140 --> 00:15:18,390 But if it was spread out over the years... 1144 00:15:18,390 --> 00:15:21,440 Sir, this is valued at tens of thousands of shekels each year. 1145 00:15:21,690 --> 00:15:22,980 I'm telling you what... 1146 00:15:22,980 --> 00:15:25,060 I didn't check, I didn't add it all up. 1147 00:15:25,110 --> 00:15:28,360 Apologies, I'm a bit... 1148 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:29,610 It's okay! 1149 00:15:29,610 --> 00:15:33,410 Impatient because it's pissing me off. 1150 00:15:33,410 --> 00:15:36,490 The whole situation of us asking you questions? 1151 00:15:36,490 --> 00:15:40,870 The lengths to which Bibi has dragged me. 1152 00:15:40,870 --> 00:15:43,460 That man's ruined my life. 1153 00:15:43,670 --> 00:15:46,210 He knows I work hard. This is a tough job. 1154 00:15:46,210 --> 00:15:50,130 And he says, "If I can sweeten the life of my brother, who serves the State of Israel 1155 00:15:50,170 --> 00:15:52,260 when the public is critical 1156 00:15:52,300 --> 00:15:55,680 and when he's being pursued by the media and the police." 1157 00:15:55,720 --> 00:16:02,770 He said, "Maybe to give him some joy in his life, I'll send him some cigars." 1158 00:16:02,810 --> 00:16:05,350 So this is a crime? How terrible! 1159 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,300 I was Arnon's personal assistant, 1160 00:16:16,430 --> 00:16:18,890 and this includes everything. 1161 00:16:20,010 --> 00:16:24,180 So, in the bottom of my heart, I knew that police will come one day. 1162 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,060 And I got a phone call... 1163 00:16:28,190 --> 00:16:30,980 which... from a number that I didn't know. 1164 00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:34,360 It was a police from Special Unit. 1165 00:16:34,490 --> 00:16:35,990 They said, "I can't tell you anything, 1166 00:16:36,110 --> 00:16:38,870 "and you are not allowed to talk to anybody about it, 1167 00:16:38,990 --> 00:16:40,040 "just come." 1168 00:16:41,620 --> 00:16:46,410 The first question was about champagne and cigars and gifts. 1169 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,900 You can't say no to them. There's no way. 1170 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,900 There's no such thing as showing up empty-handed. 1171 00:16:53,900 --> 00:16:58,640 And what you bring is not what you'd normally bring over to a friend. No way. 1172 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,350 Hadas Klein, her formal status is 1173 00:17:01,470 --> 00:17:03,850 "assistant to Mr Arnon Milchan." 1174 00:17:03,970 --> 00:17:07,250 Arnon Milchan didn't make one call, 1175 00:17:07,380 --> 00:17:09,560 almost no call to anyone, 1176 00:17:09,690 --> 00:17:12,020 without putting Hadas Klein on the line. 1177 00:17:12,150 --> 00:17:15,360 She works with the most powerful people. 1178 00:17:15,490 --> 00:17:19,030 And she was very efficient, very effective. 1179 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,640 Very good in her job. 1180 00:17:20,810 --> 00:17:26,520 Here we have a purchase from March 2010. 1181 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:27,600 It's for Bibi! 1182 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,310 Boxes and boxes of Cohibas. 1183 00:17:29,730 --> 00:17:34,360 Everything here was purchased for one person... 1184 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,950 and if you want their name, it's Benjamin Netanyahu. 1185 00:17:38,910 --> 00:17:41,780 The quantities were huge, really huge. 1186 00:17:41,830 --> 00:17:43,160 Really. 1187 00:17:43,620 --> 00:17:45,870 Both when Amen was here and when he wasn't here. 1188 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,420 Huge in the last few years. 1189 00:17:49,350 --> 00:17:52,570 Is it volunteered, or is it demanded? 1190 00:17:52,690 --> 00:17:54,400 It's demanded. 1191 00:17:54,530 --> 00:17:55,820 It's demanded. 1192 00:17:55,940 --> 00:17:59,740 Its was... It was a supplyment line. 1193 00:18:04,370 --> 00:18:08,910 In the other room, I heard that there is somebody else. 1194 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,740 It was Shani. Shani was part of our team. 1195 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,090 The circle was very small... 1196 00:18:17,210 --> 00:18:19,630 like, the circle of people who knows. 1197 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,410 It was a secret! 1198 00:18:22,580 --> 00:18:28,250 I felt it was wrong, but what could I do? 1199 00:18:28,250 --> 00:18:30,960 They instructed me to do it. 1200 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,250 I'm just afraid my parents will find out and will be ashamed of me. 1201 00:18:36,380 --> 00:18:38,720 You have nothing to be ashamed of. 1202 00:18:39,220 --> 00:18:41,050 Of course I do. 1203 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,760 You have nothing to be ashamed of. 1204 00:18:44,010 --> 00:18:47,560 Now the story is getting out. 1205 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:54,070 And it's with my name, so people will know I've brought them things. 1206 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,530 There were code names. Cigars were "green leaves." 1207 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,960 And the champagne was "pinks." 1208 00:19:10,870 --> 00:19:17,050 I don't use code words to talk to people. I don't talk to my friends and family like that. 1209 00:19:17,090 --> 00:19:21,260 But in situations where you're doing things that are wrong 1210 00:19:21,430 --> 00:19:26,720 you are more likely to use code words, even if it sounds absurd. 1211 00:19:28,350 --> 00:19:32,440 Bibi requested the cigars be put in a bag for him. 1212 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,400 He would never carry them by hand. 1213 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:39,110 Yes, the demand was that nobody would be able to see these things. 1214 00:19:39,490 --> 00:19:40,700 Did you ask for it? 1215 00:19:40,820 --> 00:19:41,650 For what? 1216 00:19:41,700 --> 00:19:42,780 A bag. 1217 00:19:43,820 --> 00:19:45,780 Perhaps, I don't remember. 1218 00:19:45,830 --> 00:19:47,160 And if we told you that you did? 1219 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:47,790 So I asked, so what? 1220 00:19:47,830 --> 00:19:49,250 Concealed in a bag. 1221 00:19:49,790 --> 00:19:51,040 There's a chance, maybe. 1222 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,370 Why would you ask to conceal it in a bag? 1223 00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:54,630 I don't know. 1224 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,420 Did you feel uncomfortable leaving the house carrying cigars? 1225 00:19:58,460 --> 00:20:01,720 Maybe. Maybe yes and maybe no. I don't know. 1226 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,340 What do you mean "maybe yes or maybe no"? 1227 00:20:03,390 --> 00:20:05,510 I don't know, because it's not important to me. 1228 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,490 Bibi's lawyer, at the beginning of this scandal, 1229 00:20:10,620 --> 00:20:13,980 told him to resign and get out of politics. 1230 00:20:15,750 --> 00:20:19,300 But I think that he's worried more details will come out 1231 00:20:19,420 --> 00:20:20,960 if he's not in power. 1232 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,050 One thing I want to say at some point... 1233 00:20:27,180 --> 00:20:31,400 is that I'm dividing the person into two persons. 1234 00:20:31,530 --> 00:20:34,100 It's Bibi on the one... My kind of Bibi, 1235 00:20:34,230 --> 00:20:38,400 not the crowd kind of Bibi, and then there's Netanyahu. 1236 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,230 Otherwise, I can't handle the situation. 1237 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:43,010 Is that okay? 1238 00:20:44,110 --> 00:20:46,950 He didn't have that many friends... 1239 00:20:47,070 --> 00:20:48,540 and I was... 1240 00:20:48,670 --> 00:20:51,240 Why is it that always people approach me, 1241 00:20:51,370 --> 00:20:53,960 "You're Bibi's friend?" And everybody says the same, 1242 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,320 but it's because he didn't have that many close friends ever. 1243 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,780 So... 1244 00:21:02,050 --> 00:21:03,460 ...I'm the one. 1245 00:21:13,350 --> 00:21:16,480 We grew up in Jerusalem. 1246 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,270 There's one photo that somebody took when we were, like, 1247 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,650 I don't know, 10 or 11, and it's on the entrance to his home. 1248 00:21:23,780 --> 00:21:27,200 He was very much stronger than I am, and much bigger. 1249 00:21:30,740 --> 00:21:32,830 Yoni was his older brother. 1250 00:21:32,950 --> 00:21:35,790 I think he was three years apart. 1251 00:21:35,910 --> 00:21:37,830 They looked very much alike. 1252 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,880 Same body structure, very similar. 1253 00:21:42,130 --> 00:21:45,920 They had a strong friendship, admiration from Bibi to Yoni. 1254 00:21:46,050 --> 00:21:49,970 Yoni was like the star of the family. 1255 00:21:50,090 --> 00:21:52,890 The father and the mother didn't ignore it. 1256 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,600 They were very much into admiration of strength and power. 1257 00:22:01,900 --> 00:22:04,980 I don't think I was a macho, but Bibi was a macho, 1258 00:22:05,110 --> 00:22:07,240 in many ways. 1259 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:10,450 Good evening. Pro-Palestinian extremists 1260 00:22:10,580 --> 00:22:13,490 have hijacked an Air France jet to Uganda's Entebbe Airport. 1261 00:22:13,620 --> 00:22:17,030 Israeli government ministers worked into the Jewish Sabbath tonight 1262 00:22:17,150 --> 00:22:19,710 on negotiations for the release of about 100 Israelis 1263 00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:22,840 and other Jews from Palestinian hijackers. 1264 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,300 On July 4th, 1976, 1265 00:22:25,420 --> 00:22:29,260 my brother Yoni, lieutenant colonel and commander, 1266 00:22:29,380 --> 00:22:31,550 led his men to rescue hostages 1267 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,220 from Entebbe, Uganda, in the heart of Africa. 1268 00:22:37,930 --> 00:22:39,800 The terrorists were now certain 1269 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,150 that they were beyond Israel's reach. 1270 00:22:48,070 --> 00:22:52,200 This operation was something that was never done at this magnitude, 1271 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,280 to save so many people, so far away. 1272 00:22:54,410 --> 00:22:55,990 The whole thing is fantastic. 1273 00:22:56,120 --> 00:23:00,370 So much was written, and there's a movie about it. 1274 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,340 Landing in the dead of night at Entebbe Airport, 1275 00:23:09,470 --> 00:23:14,800 Yoni's force killed the terrorists, and they liberated 102 hostages. 1276 00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:26,900 You had only one person killed there, 1277 00:23:27,020 --> 00:23:29,230 who was the commander of the unit - 1278 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:32,110 Yoni Netanyahu. 1279 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,950 He was a very young man. 1280 00:23:36,030 --> 00:23:38,300 So, for Bibi it was a... 1281 00:23:39,370 --> 00:23:41,540 ...you know, major, major loss. 1282 00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:47,170 Yoni, my extraordinary older brother, 1283 00:23:47,290 --> 00:23:50,130 instantly emerged from anonymity to fame. 1284 00:23:50,260 --> 00:23:53,830 A person of exceptional intelligence and dedication to Israel, 1285 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,230 he served as a model to be emulated. 1286 00:23:58,430 --> 00:24:03,140 Yoni's sacrifice and example helped me overcome inconsolable grief, 1287 00:24:03,270 --> 00:24:06,440 and thrust me into the public battle against terrorism. 1288 00:24:08,940 --> 00:24:12,150 Bibi sort of took over the first son's role, 1289 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,770 and with the death of Yoni, it was like a platform. 1290 00:24:17,530 --> 00:24:20,790 Yoni's death... was definitely the making of Bibi. 1291 00:24:20,910 --> 00:24:22,330 There's no question about it. 1292 00:24:22,450 --> 00:24:26,790 It opened the door for something new to start. 1293 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,140 And that's how it drove him to politics. 1294 00:24:30,270 --> 00:24:32,630 Benjamin Netanyahu, like the country he represents, 1295 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,840 believes in attacking his attackers. 1296 00:24:35,970 --> 00:24:39,970 His job is to be an ambassador, but his passion is a personal crusade 1297 00:24:40,100 --> 00:24:44,180 against international terrorism and the states that sponsor it. 1298 00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:48,400 The US Embassy in Beirut tonight is a floodlit scene of death and devastation. 1299 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,690 A car apparently packed with more than 300lbs of explosives 1300 00:24:52,820 --> 00:24:55,240 blew up in the narrow drive at the entrance to the embassy. 1301 00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:59,030 I think that this attack was meant to serve 1302 00:24:59,150 --> 00:25:01,420 as a symbolic, psychological blow, 1303 00:25:01,540 --> 00:25:03,120 a defeat for the United States. 1304 00:25:03,250 --> 00:25:06,830 In the question of terrorism, there is no neutrality. 1305 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,220 There is no position of magisterial objectivity 1306 00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:10,670 between good and evil. 1307 00:25:10,790 --> 00:25:11,960 You have to choose. 1308 00:25:12,090 --> 00:25:14,260 You are either with the terrorists, or you're against them. 1309 00:25:15,220 --> 00:25:16,880 Once he became a politician, 1310 00:25:17,010 --> 00:25:20,510 he was a major, major expert on terrorism, 1311 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,850 and a protector of Israel. 1312 00:25:23,980 --> 00:25:27,810 Flight 847, the TWA flight hijacked to Beirut, 1313 00:25:27,940 --> 00:25:30,560 now under control of two armed hijackers. 1314 00:25:30,690 --> 00:25:31,940 They want the prisoners you're holding, the Lebanese Shi'ites. 1315 00:25:32,070 --> 00:25:33,400 Will you release them? 1316 00:25:33,530 --> 00:25:36,530 They have not made a concrete demand, and I...our policy, as far as possible, 1317 00:25:36,650 --> 00:25:38,740 is not to concede to terrorist demands, 1318 00:25:38,860 --> 00:25:41,330 and certainly I believe, based on what I've heard from Washington, 1319 00:25:41,450 --> 00:25:43,950 that that is your policy as well. 1320 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,040 His performance on television used to be masterpieces. 1321 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,920 You don't surrender. 1322 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,460 Whatever you do, you don't surrender to these killers. 1323 00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:54,300 Does the West have the will... 1324 00:25:54,420 --> 00:25:56,510 and the guts to fight back? 1325 00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:59,220 He knew exactly what to say, how to say it. 1326 00:25:59,340 --> 00:26:03,720 He has this pleasant baritone, his gestures... 1327 00:26:03,850 --> 00:26:06,060 You slap them on the wrist. 1328 00:26:06,180 --> 00:26:08,730 You make them stop and pause. They try again. 1329 00:26:08,850 --> 00:26:11,610 You have to hit them again, until they know that you are serious. 1330 00:26:11,730 --> 00:26:13,320 He became really... perfected it. 1331 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,730 If they are going to be unpunished, 1332 00:26:14,860 --> 00:26:17,490 they'll come back again, there'll be other killings, other murders. 1333 00:26:17,610 --> 00:26:20,020 And they're testing us. 1334 00:26:20,140 --> 00:26:21,780 He was a great performer, 1335 00:26:21,910 --> 00:26:25,200 and it made him a very popular person. 1336 00:26:25,330 --> 00:26:26,500 He was the hero of the Jews, 1337 00:26:26,620 --> 00:26:28,500 and he was the hero of the state of Israel, 1338 00:26:28,620 --> 00:26:31,420 standing against all those who hate the Jewish people 1339 00:26:31,540 --> 00:26:32,920 and the state of Israel. 1340 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,220 This was a great... a great campaign without campaigning. 1341 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,280 Ambassador Netanyahu plans to get involved in Israeli politics. 1342 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,370 He will likely run for a seat on the Likud's Knesset list. 1343 00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:46,660 I think the Arabs are ultimately human beings. 1344 00:26:46,830 --> 00:26:49,790 They are human beings and they won't slam their heads against the wall forever. 1345 00:26:50,170 --> 00:26:52,290 But if they see cracks in the wall 1346 00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:54,800 and they see part of the wall is damaged 1347 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,380 they will certainly persist. 1348 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,700 Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu, 1349 00:26:59,820 --> 00:27:02,160 46, thrice-married father of three, 1350 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,490 right-wing politician, and now Israeli Prime Minister. 1351 00:27:06,620 --> 00:27:11,120 He became Prime Minister, I think, he was 46 years old. 1352 00:27:11,250 --> 00:27:14,000 Very young. And he had confidence. 1353 00:27:14,130 --> 00:27:17,340 It's an amazing success when you think about it. 1354 00:27:17,460 --> 00:27:19,090 Enormous! 1355 00:27:19,530 --> 00:27:23,030 I am obligated to the values of liberty and democracy 1356 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,120 just as I am obligated to the eternal values of the Israeli nation. 1357 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,450 And there is no conflict between the two! 1358 00:27:31,370 --> 00:27:34,330 These elections clearly prove 1359 00:27:34,340 --> 00:27:36,670 that there is a God in the sky! 1360 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:45,070 His ambition brought him to the heights of success. 1361 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,140 Bibi! King of Israel! 1362 00:27:49,140 --> 00:27:52,390 He's alive and well! 1363 00:27:52,670 --> 00:27:55,460 To become Prime Minister at the age that he did, 1364 00:27:55,580 --> 00:28:00,170 to exceed the founding father, Ben Gurion, 1365 00:28:00,300 --> 00:28:02,920 in the duration of his premiership... 1366 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,170 ...he reached heights beyond anyone else. 1367 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,520 But his moral flaws... 1368 00:28:14,970 --> 00:28:16,900 ...turned it all upside down. 1369 00:28:34,770 --> 00:28:37,980 Sir, with your permission, I ask that you answer my question. 1370 00:28:37,980 --> 00:28:41,650 Did you see the big quantities of champagne that were delivered to your wife? 1371 00:28:41,650 --> 00:28:44,150 Do you suggest we ask your wife about it? 1372 00:28:44,490 --> 00:28:47,320 That's your decision. 1373 00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:51,450 You expect a husband to recommend his wife's interrogation? 1374 00:28:51,540 --> 00:28:54,670 I don't know, but I can tell you for a fact, it wasn't just once or twice. 1375 00:28:54,750 --> 00:28:57,000 Look, it's not my place to recommend her interrogation. 1376 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,300 How often do you investigate people for getting gifts from their friends? 1377 00:29:09,310 --> 00:29:12,770 What? You're bringing that up again? I thought we were done with that. 1378 00:29:12,770 --> 00:29:14,060 No, we're never done with that. 1379 00:29:14,060 --> 00:29:15,390 No, we're never done with that. Here it's done... 1380 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,850 Here we're through with that. 1381 00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:17,770 We're not done. 1382 00:29:17,770 --> 00:29:19,020 We're not done. Here we are though! 1383 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,190 We're talking. Excuse me! 1384 00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:23,400 This is the media, and a police state. We're asking about... 1385 00:29:23,490 --> 00:29:27,450 There are unsolved crimes and you're asking about bottles. 1386 00:29:27,530 --> 00:29:30,330 There's crime here, terrible things happen here. 1387 00:29:30,330 --> 00:29:35,000 We have terror attacks, and what are you doing? With all this nonsense of yours? 1388 00:29:35,370 --> 00:29:40,040 Your interrogations are meant to bring down the Prime Minister. 1389 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,880 Together with your accomplices. 1390 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,720 All the things we are presenting to you... 1391 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,680 Are false! 1392 00:29:48,150 --> 00:29:50,900 First of all, Mrs Sara Netanyahu is very important 1393 00:29:51,030 --> 00:29:53,120 as a decision-maker... 1394 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,540 in everything that goes around Mr Netanyahu. 1395 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:06,950 Sara intervenes in both political and media matters 1396 00:30:06,950 --> 00:30:09,910 as well as hidings for the office. 1397 00:30:11,260 --> 00:30:13,350 Benjamin Netanyhu is extremely skilful 1398 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,850 and knowledgeable and smart. 1399 00:30:15,970 --> 00:30:18,810 "But can we trust you?" 1400 00:30:18,940 --> 00:30:23,480 So, that's Sara's responsibility. 1401 00:30:23,610 --> 00:30:27,990 So, once he thinks that someone has the right skills... 1402 00:30:28,110 --> 00:30:31,350 still, Sara needs to give her approval... 1403 00:30:31,470 --> 00:30:33,580 that we, the Netanyahu family, 1404 00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:37,330 can trust this guy or this lady. 1405 00:30:38,370 --> 00:30:40,920 She gets to decide who will be the advisors, 1406 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,310 she gets to decide his schedule, she gets to decide policy. 1407 00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:47,380 She is very, very important. 1408 00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:50,750 They are almost like couple that runs the country. 1409 00:30:51,070 --> 00:30:58,160 I represent Israel all ever the world. My husband and I walk along rows of soldiers. 1410 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:03,380 I meet with world leaders and their wives. I bring a whole lot of respect to our country. 1411 00:31:03,380 --> 00:31:07,300 And it's not publicized, and our country is missing... missing out on it! 1412 00:31:08,190 --> 00:31:11,860 Sara Netanyahu is much more than controversial. 1413 00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:14,820 It's been proved in court... 1414 00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:18,040 that Sara Netanyahu abused workers, 1415 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,290 treated them in the most humiliating way possible. 1416 00:31:24,610 --> 00:31:28,780 I began as the bodyguard of Bibi's children, Yair and Avner. 1417 00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:31,780 And also of Sara Netanyahu, the Prime Minister's wife. 1418 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,620 And then I was put in charge of the household. 1419 00:31:37,250 --> 00:31:43,960 Whenever they returned from visiting the White House, it was really hard for us. 1420 00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:49,300 They expected the same level of luxury. 1421 00:31:49,300 --> 00:31:54,180 All those servants, they wanted it here. 1422 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,440 They know how to "steal" things they can't have. 1423 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,070 The state wasn't willing to pay, so invoices had to be falsified. 1424 00:32:12,780 --> 00:32:16,830 She did whatever she wanted, and her budget was always approved. 1425 00:32:18,370 --> 00:32:24,000 She drinks a lot, and I figured out that's why her behavior was sometimes friendly, sometimes angry. 1426 00:32:25,670 --> 00:32:30,090 She'd shout, and then she would be kind. 1427 00:32:30,090 --> 00:32:32,130 That's the cycle, again and again. 1428 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,390 He knows that she drinks, he knows everything. 1429 00:32:40,060 --> 00:32:42,180 When Sara got in the car 1430 00:32:42,190 --> 00:32:46,690 after the drivers loaded her trunk with boxes of champagne 1431 00:32:47,650 --> 00:32:50,030 Sara would take a glass of champagne. 1432 00:32:50,030 --> 00:32:54,200 As I take a glass of coffee to go, she takes a glass of champagne! 1433 00:32:55,280 --> 00:33:01,950 Did you get in touch with Milchan? And ask for that favorite champagne of yours? 1434 00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:06,920 Why do you have to say it that way? "Your favorite," it's really cynical and gross. 1435 00:33:07,130 --> 00:33:08,670 It's really an unpleasant way to speak. 1436 00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:10,050 Because you're specifically asking for it. 1437 00:33:10,090 --> 00:33:13,380 I'm not asking for it specifically, and you're speaking disrespectfully. 1438 00:33:13,420 --> 00:33:15,380 Okay, did you ask for it? 1439 00:33:15,430 --> 00:33:16,220 Really. 1440 00:33:16,220 --> 00:33:16,760 Really. Did you ask? 1441 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,430 I have to say I'm really uncomfortable here. And if it continues I'll just leave. 1442 00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:21,430 Okay, the question is who... 1443 00:33:21,430 --> 00:33:22,680 Or you can lock me up. 1444 00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:26,920 Sara Netanyahu, she really feels that she is entitled 1445 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,080 to get all these things... 1446 00:33:29,210 --> 00:33:31,130 and she scares from nothing. 1447 00:33:31,250 --> 00:33:33,710 She's still doing it today! 1448 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,220 Just with different people. 1449 00:33:36,570 --> 00:33:37,860 So pay close attention. 1450 00:33:37,870 --> 00:33:44,200 From Sunday to Friday, you receive 20 bottles of champagne in one week. 1451 00:33:44,790 --> 00:33:45,750 I don't recall. 1452 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,790 You don't recall, meaning that there's a chance? 1453 00:33:48,790 --> 00:33:49,960 I don't remember. 1454 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,210 What do, you think? I stand there and count the bottles? 1455 00:33:54,340 --> 00:33:57,720 Maybe I count a couple of other things that concern our existence. 1456 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:58,760 What are the circumstances... 1457 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,060 Like how many rockets are pointing at us. 1458 00:34:02,270 --> 00:34:03,930 We work 18 hours a day. 1459 00:34:03,930 --> 00:34:09,060 She works with children, cancer patients, as a child psychologist. 1460 00:34:09,150 --> 00:34:12,480 We have no pleasures in life! 1461 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,190 Everything you're trying to prove here, I think it's wrong. 1462 00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:21,660 Did you give them the champagne? Or did the drivers go each time? 1463 00:34:21,830 --> 00:34:25,000 When I'd come to the Prime Minister's residence, I'd carry it in a cooler. 1464 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,120 I have to ask you, how did it make you feel? 1465 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,540 How did it make me feel? 1466 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:37,630 I felt like... let me tell you... 1467 00:34:37,670 --> 00:34:43,390 Bottles of champagne, that each time cost hundreds of dollars. 1468 00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:48,560 I felt that the Prime Minister's wife will torture him... 1469 00:34:51,810 --> 00:34:57,110 if she didn't have a little to drink. 1470 00:35:01,660 --> 00:35:05,120 I think Bibi is afraid of Sara. 1471 00:35:07,790 --> 00:35:11,920 I am extremely familiar with her screaming. 1472 00:35:12,210 --> 00:35:15,000 I never asked and I never demanded. 1473 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,670 Our investigation shows that you... 1474 00:35:16,670 --> 00:35:21,220 Your evidence is complete and utter bullshit. Bye! 1475 00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:26,930 At first I was shocked from the level of screaming. 1476 00:35:26,930 --> 00:35:31,940 And I told Bibi, "I don't recall working for your wife." 1477 00:35:32,810 --> 00:35:34,060 This is your response? 1478 00:35:34,270 --> 00:35:36,110 You're speaking nonsense. 1479 00:35:36,190 --> 00:35:37,320 Your response is that it's all bullshit? 1480 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,190 You're speaking nonsense. 1481 00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:42,740 These are testimonies that people gave to the police, ma'am. 1482 00:35:42,740 --> 00:35:47,200 You interrogate people for hours and hours and hours. 1483 00:35:47,540 --> 00:35:49,750 How are you not ashamed of yourselves? 1484 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,130 The relationship between the Prime Minister and his wife 1485 00:36:03,140 --> 00:36:05,930 was not 100% understandable to me. 1486 00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:08,220 But I knew that he was afraid of her. 1487 00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:10,850 That he had to appease her. 1488 00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:14,190 She controls everything. She knows everything. 1489 00:36:14,190 --> 00:36:17,110 She knows where the Prime Minister is. 1490 00:36:17,110 --> 00:36:19,320 And if she doesn't know where he is 1491 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,700 she calls 5 or 6 officials to find out. 1492 00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:24,910 If it doesn't all line up, boy we're in trouble. 1493 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,770 30 years ago, Netanyahu was involved in a sex scandal 1494 00:36:31,890 --> 00:36:37,650 that was never been heard of in puritan Israel of those days. 1495 00:36:38,650 --> 00:36:42,990 In Israel, this scandal is called the "hot tape" scandal. 1496 00:36:43,220 --> 00:36:46,590 And now we turn to a developing story that's stirring up the Likud political party. 1497 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,810 An anonymous source threatens to expose 1498 00:36:48,810 --> 00:36:52,790 Knesset member Benjamin Netanyahu's intimate relationship with another woman. 1499 00:36:52,790 --> 00:36:56,790 We know the name of the woman that was supposed to be in the hot tape. 1500 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,500 Nobody ever saw the hot tape. 1501 00:37:01,630 --> 00:37:02,550 No-one. 1502 00:37:02,670 --> 00:37:05,420 But his response was panicky. 1503 00:37:05,570 --> 00:37:06,990 Good evening Knesset member Netanyahu. 1504 00:37:06,990 --> 00:37:08,530 Our first question is 1505 00:37:08,700 --> 00:37:11,790 have you engaged in intimate relations with another woman? 1506 00:37:12,750 --> 00:37:15,370 There was indeed such a thing. It ended a couple of months ago. 1507 00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:21,630 This is a private matter. I owe a personal debt to my wife, to my family. 1508 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,510 And to no one else, with all due respect. 1509 00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:26,130 How did your wife respond to the breaking news? 1510 00:37:26,260 --> 00:37:30,010 At 6 pm last night, an anonymous caller phoned the house... 1511 00:37:30,510 --> 00:37:33,060 I was out campaigning for the elections. 1512 00:37:34,690 --> 00:37:37,400 My wife picked up the phone and was threatened 1513 00:37:37,770 --> 00:37:44,030 that if I don't quit the race to lead the Likud party, they will release the evidence. 1514 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,860 This isn't about Benjamin Netanyahu. 1515 00:37:47,110 --> 00:37:49,570 It's about the fate of Israel's democracy. 1516 00:37:52,430 --> 00:37:56,140 It made Sara furious that you tell all Israeli public 1517 00:37:56,270 --> 00:37:59,320 that you had a romance with somebody else. 1518 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:01,730 Behind my back. 1519 00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:10,970 I want to thank the one who walked and marched by my side 1520 00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:18,770 on this long and tumultuous road 1521 00:38:19,650 --> 00:38:22,570 and stayed with me, my beloved wife 1522 00:38:22,570 --> 00:38:25,530 Sara, who stands beside me. 1523 00:38:25,710 --> 00:38:29,430 That was the moment that everything changed. 1524 00:38:31,050 --> 00:38:35,980 This shape the relationship between Benjamin and Sara Netanyahu. 1525 00:38:59,770 --> 00:39:00,810 Listen... 1526 00:39:02,690 --> 00:39:05,610 I think the country of Israel would be better off 1527 00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:09,240 if she didn't put her nose into his politics. 1528 00:39:11,450 --> 00:39:14,280 She's very unforgiving. 1529 00:39:15,490 --> 00:39:17,370 But I gotta tell you 1530 00:39:17,370 --> 00:39:19,620 I gotta be as honest with you as I can. 1531 00:39:19,620 --> 00:39:23,000 I don't think I'll continue the friendship with them. 1532 00:39:23,340 --> 00:39:29,800 Sara showed me a necklace once and told me, "Arnon bought it for me. It's Tiffany & Co." 1533 00:39:30,970 --> 00:39:33,050 And she hinted she'd be happy if I got her one too. 1534 00:39:34,050 --> 00:39:38,430 I told her, I have a casino license. I can't do anything that's illegal. 1535 00:39:39,180 --> 00:39:42,350 It doesn't look good. 1536 00:39:42,940 --> 00:39:45,980 You see, when you ask for a cigar or champagne 1537 00:39:46,070 --> 00:39:47,150 It's small things. 1538 00:39:47,150 --> 00:39:50,860 But jewelry... I said we need approval. It's small things. 1539 00:39:50,990 --> 00:39:52,700 Whose approval did you need? 1540 00:39:52,950 --> 00:39:58,660 I wanted the Prime Minister to tell me personally that it was okay. 1541 00:39:58,830 --> 00:40:00,330 Okay in what way? 1542 00:40:00,330 --> 00:40:03,960 In a legal sense. 1543 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:11,130 Bibi approved it was legal. "A friend can give a gift to a friend." 1544 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,600 So a friend can give... 1545 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,810 No, he laughed. He said, "just not a house." 1546 00:40:18,970 --> 00:40:21,430 And then you felt reassured? 1547 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:27,020 Well listen, if the Prime Minister says it's legal, I accepted it. 1548 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:35,110 Do you know that your wife received jewelry as a gift from Arnon Milchan? 1549 00:40:36,030 --> 00:40:37,580 No, I don't know. 1550 00:40:38,660 --> 00:40:40,750 But maybe she did, maybe not. 1551 00:40:42,210 --> 00:40:45,210 I don't know. 1552 00:40:46,210 --> 00:40:48,500 Did you not ask for a specific necklace? 1553 00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:49,300 No... 1554 00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:51,920 I advise you to tell the truth, it saves us a lot of embarrassment. 1555 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,470 I'm asking again, did you ask for any specific jewelry? 1556 00:40:53,470 --> 00:40:56,260 I did not ask for this ring. I'm asking again, did you ask for any specific jewelry? 1557 00:40:56,260 --> 00:40:57,970 And the necklace? No. 1558 00:40:59,350 --> 00:41:03,560 Sara asked for, and received from me personally... 1559 00:41:04,350 --> 00:41:06,480 I bought, purchased! 1560 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,530 A necklace and a ring. 1561 00:41:10,650 --> 00:41:14,610 Then Sara also asked for a gift for her wedding anniversary. 1562 00:41:17,780 --> 00:41:21,330 A bracelet that cost about $42,000. 1563 00:41:23,370 --> 00:41:30,130 Her husband said it was too "Romanian." Meaning that it was too flashy. 1564 00:41:31,590 --> 00:41:35,720 She wanted to exchange it, but I said with a diamond bracelet like this, it's impossible. 1565 00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:39,600 But that answers the question of whether Bibi knew about it. 1566 00:41:40,010 --> 00:41:43,350 Bibi told her that with a bracelet like this... 1567 00:41:44,270 --> 00:41:45,980 encrusted with so many diamonds... 1568 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,400 that people would surely comment, or ask where it's from. 1569 00:41:50,650 --> 00:41:53,230 So Bibi said it's too flashy, exchange it. 1570 00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:56,740 Which means he must've known. 1571 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,950 So I'm telling you that in September of this year... 1572 00:42:00,990 --> 00:42:02,240 September? 1573 00:42:03,660 --> 00:42:07,870 Your wife received jewelry from Arnon Milchan. 1574 00:42:08,170 --> 00:42:10,000 I have absolutely no idea. 1575 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,210 You have absolutely no idea? 1576 00:42:11,250 --> 00:42:12,460 I'm hearing about this for the first time. 1577 00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:13,380 You're hearing about this for the first time? 1578 00:42:13,460 --> 00:42:14,880 Unequivocally. 1579 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,070 He's a great actor. 1580 00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:19,740 He knows how to look relaxed. 1581 00:42:19,860 --> 00:42:21,740 But he's not relaxed at all. 1582 00:42:21,870 --> 00:42:24,040 He's very, very stressed because of it. 1583 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,080 Any one of us would be stressful if the police would come to us 1584 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,420 with such an allegation. 1585 00:42:29,540 --> 00:42:31,710 But he knows how to play the game, 1586 00:42:31,830 --> 00:42:35,050 and he knows that he's being filmed all the time, 1587 00:42:35,170 --> 00:42:37,560 and he doesn't want to look bad. 1588 00:42:37,740 --> 00:42:41,280 Just to confirm we understood you correctly 1589 00:42:41,330 --> 00:42:44,990 is it possible your wife received this jewelry without you knowing? 1590 00:42:45,330 --> 00:42:50,000 I told you that I don't know if she did. And this is the first time I'm hearing of it. 1591 00:42:50,770 --> 00:42:56,070 I mean, he doesn't remember the diamond that Sara received? 1592 00:42:56,190 --> 00:42:57,940 He was personally involved with it. 1593 00:42:58,070 --> 00:43:01,280 He doesn't know anything about champagne bottles that she received. 1594 00:43:01,410 --> 00:43:05,200 Come on! I mean, it was in his house, in his car. 1595 00:43:05,330 --> 00:43:09,080 He doesn't know about it. It's ridiculous! 1596 00:43:09,210 --> 00:43:11,920 I mean this is $250,000. 1597 00:43:16,340 --> 00:43:18,460 If you want to lie, you know, you need a great memory. 1598 00:43:18,590 --> 00:43:21,140 You need a great memory to lie. He has a great memory. 1599 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,580 I've never met a person with such great memory, 1600 00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:27,790 a photographic memory for details. 1601 00:43:27,830 --> 00:43:35,840 Netanyahu remembers texts, people, dates, history. 1602 00:43:36,260 --> 00:43:38,010 I can't remember exactly... 1603 00:43:38,010 --> 00:43:43,140 "I don't remember," meaning maybe yes? Or maybe not? 1604 00:43:43,140 --> 00:43:45,430 No, I just remember the subject. 1605 00:43:45,850 --> 00:43:47,180 I can't remember every single thing! 1606 00:43:47,850 --> 00:43:49,060 Thousands of people! 1607 00:43:49,310 --> 00:43:54,650 You can't even imagine. I didn't know a human being could reach such a level. 1608 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,860 It might be, I just can't remember. 1609 00:43:58,190 --> 00:43:59,690 I don't remember. 1610 00:43:59,950 --> 00:44:01,070 I can't remember anything. 1611 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,530 Even if I spoke to him, and I don't remember that I did... 1612 00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:08,200 Do you realize that you respond to 95% of our questions with "I don't remember"? 1613 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:08,790 Yes. 1614 00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:10,660 I really don't remember. 1615 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,870 I'm telling you the truth, I don't remember. 1616 00:44:13,170 --> 00:44:14,750 Fact is I don't remember! 1617 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,460 I simply can't remember. 1618 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,960 I don't remember, but there was something... 1619 00:44:20,650 --> 00:44:22,570 He lies left and right. 1620 00:44:22,700 --> 00:44:25,160 Bibi lies left and right. 1621 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,450 He uses... I mean, lying, for him, is not something bad. 1622 00:44:28,580 --> 00:44:29,540 Seriously! 1623 00:44:29,660 --> 00:44:32,300 And it doesn't... it doesn't give him... 1624 00:44:32,420 --> 00:44:35,530 He doesn't feel any... problem with it. 1625 00:44:35,690 --> 00:44:37,230 It's a lie... 1626 00:44:37,230 --> 00:44:40,320 It is not a lie. I just forgot it. 1627 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,490 It's not a lie. 1628 00:44:43,490 --> 00:44:47,200 If I told you that the light is off, I'd be lying. 1629 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:52,500 You don't know the difference between a lie and a mistake? 1630 00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:57,040 I know, I know. Trust me I know a bit about lying. 1631 00:44:58,810 --> 00:45:01,940 The felony that Netanyahu is indicted in 1632 00:45:02,070 --> 00:45:03,840 is called "breach of trust," 1633 00:45:03,970 --> 00:45:06,740 which means that you put yourself 1634 00:45:06,860 --> 00:45:10,330 in a very high risk of conflicts of interest. 1635 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,460 Arnon Milchan has an access to the Prime Minister 1636 00:45:16,580 --> 00:45:18,890 where other people don't get this access. 1637 00:45:20,340 --> 00:45:22,420 Anytime he needs something... 1638 00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:25,450 he can pick up the phone and find Netanyahu. 1639 00:45:25,610 --> 00:45:27,740 Did you speak with Netanyahu about the law? 1640 00:45:27,740 --> 00:45:28,820 Of course not. 1641 00:45:28,870 --> 00:45:30,120 You didn't speak with him? 1642 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,370 Never. 1643 00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:34,390 There is some law in Israel... 1644 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,560 that help Arnon Milchan to pay less taxes. 1645 00:45:38,690 --> 00:45:41,610 This law has a deadline... 1646 00:45:41,730 --> 00:45:44,190 and Milchan wants this deadline 1647 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,110 to be... pushing far off. 1648 00:45:47,300 --> 00:45:51,850 Did you know about the ten-year tax break? Did you speak to him about it? 1649 00:45:51,850 --> 00:45:54,850 Milchan never spoke to me about business! 1650 00:45:54,850 --> 00:45:56,560 Get it through your head. 1651 00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:01,150 And I never acted in favor of his business. I only had national interests in mind. 1652 00:46:01,150 --> 00:46:04,490 All these things you bring up... Not personal! National interest! 1653 00:46:05,380 --> 00:46:08,760 So, Netanyahu is speaking with his Finance Minister, 1654 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,390 telling him, "Maybe we'll help Arnon. 1655 00:46:11,510 --> 00:46:15,810 "Maybe we'll do it with this law, extend it for few more years." 1656 00:46:17,230 --> 00:46:20,060 Any law that relates to taxes 1657 00:46:20,190 --> 00:46:24,320 needs to go through Yair Lapid, the Finance Minister. 1658 00:46:26,130 --> 00:46:28,180 Did Bibi speak to you about Milchan? 1659 00:46:28,180 --> 00:46:30,050 He asked, "Did Arnon bring it up?" 1660 00:46:30,050 --> 00:46:33,560 I said, "Yes. I don't think it's a good idea." He said, "I do think it's a good idea." 1661 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,350 Do you know if anyone else got this exemption? 1662 00:46:36,350 --> 00:46:37,480 No. 1663 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,560 Did anyone else approach you about extending the exemption? 1664 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,730 No. He was the only one. 1665 00:46:41,730 --> 00:46:43,900 If you ask me, it's a very strange subject 1666 00:46:43,900 --> 00:46:46,780 for the Prime Minister to approach the Finance Minister about. 1667 00:46:46,780 --> 00:46:47,280 Why? 1668 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,320 Because it's a marginal tax regulation applying to a select few. 1669 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:51,700 Put it this way... 1670 00:46:51,700 --> 00:46:56,410 it was the only tax regulation Netanyahu ever approached me about. 1671 00:46:56,790 --> 00:47:00,000 It's just incredible, you approached the Finance Minister 1672 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,880 unconnected to Milchan, but it was so urgent. 1673 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,090 And you told him, "Listen, it's a good law. It's a good amendment. You should do it." 1674 00:47:07,420 --> 00:47:11,180 You're saying you didn't. Really? 1675 00:47:11,220 --> 00:47:13,180 First of all... 1676 00:47:13,180 --> 00:47:22,230 it could be that Milchan raised something I already thought about and supported. 1677 00:47:22,270 --> 00:47:27,360 So you have two meetings with the Minister of Finance to say "help Milchan"? 1678 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,070 No. Not "help Milchan." Just "pass the law." 1679 00:47:31,070 --> 00:47:36,120 All of a sudden after Milchan visits you, you think you'll visit the Finance Minister? 1680 00:47:38,020 --> 00:47:41,850 He tried to help Arnon Milchan in few other things. 1681 00:47:41,980 --> 00:47:45,230 Arnon Milchan helped Israel, in some ways, 1682 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,570 to get all kinds of equipment to our nuclear project, 1683 00:47:49,690 --> 00:47:52,660 to build nuclear bombs. 1684 00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:59,240 This was 40 or 50 years ago. 1685 00:47:59,370 --> 00:48:03,120 Many people thought some of the things that he did 1686 00:48:03,250 --> 00:48:05,160 was against the American laws. 1687 00:48:06,130 --> 00:48:09,380 Years later, he decided to brag about it, 1688 00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:11,260 and to tell it out loud. 1689 00:48:11,450 --> 00:48:14,410 Do you know how it feels to be a twenty-something year old 1690 00:48:14,410 --> 00:48:18,160 and the state lets him be James Bond? 1691 00:48:18,580 --> 00:48:21,790 Wow, that's action, very exciting! 1692 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,360 It made someone in the American administration furious. 1693 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,440 Not only he did it, but now he said it out loud. 1694 00:48:31,570 --> 00:48:35,740 So, they decided to cut his visa. 1695 00:48:35,860 --> 00:48:37,900 And all his life is in the US. 1696 00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:43,390 What do you know about Arnon's visa problems? 1697 00:48:43,980 --> 00:48:49,110 He was very worried he wouldn't be able to enter the United States. 1698 00:48:49,730 --> 00:48:52,700 Of course he panicked. 1699 00:48:52,700 --> 00:48:58,120 And it's true, he reached out to Netanyahu. 1700 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,160 We never spoke about personal matters 1701 00:49:00,330 --> 00:49:01,540 except for one thing. 1702 00:49:01,710 --> 00:49:02,750 Except for one thing. 1703 00:49:02,910 --> 00:49:05,170 And that is the visa. 1704 00:49:05,170 --> 00:49:06,920 And I perceived it as a matter of national security. 1705 00:49:07,340 --> 00:49:09,710 That is the only time he talked to me about a personal matter. 1706 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:10,750 And it's not personal. 1707 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,260 It's a matter of national security. 1708 00:49:12,420 --> 00:49:13,630 In my opinion. 1709 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,870 Netanyahu speaks with the American Ambassador in Israel, 1710 00:49:17,990 --> 00:49:20,450 he's calling the Secretary of State, 1711 00:49:20,580 --> 00:49:22,660 Mr John Kerry, a few times. 1712 00:49:22,790 --> 00:49:25,120 His people speak with all kinds of people, 1713 00:49:25,250 --> 00:49:28,010 putting pressure to take care of this thing 1714 00:49:28,140 --> 00:49:31,130 and get Arnon Milchan his visa back. 1715 00:49:31,250 --> 00:49:33,010 Ultimately, it happened. 1716 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,660 I deserved to get help. 1717 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,160 I can't just give and give and give. 1718 00:49:41,580 --> 00:49:43,290 Okay, we'll continue tomorrow. 1719 00:49:44,290 --> 00:49:47,670 By the way, can you drop the word "bribe"? 1720 00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:48,710 No. 1721 00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:52,170 If this gets out, I'm ruined. 1722 00:49:54,610 --> 00:49:58,490 When you want to ask a favour from Secretary Kerry... 1723 00:49:58,610 --> 00:50:00,990 when you deal with him... 1724 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,660 in Iran, Palestinians, all the rest... 1725 00:50:04,790 --> 00:50:06,710 you want to ask for a favour, 1726 00:50:06,830 --> 00:50:10,330 this needs to be something very dramatic. 1727 00:50:10,460 --> 00:50:14,510 You don't want to waste your political capital... 1728 00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:17,800 for Arnon Milchan visa! 1729 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,360 This is... unheard of. 1730 00:50:22,700 --> 00:50:25,120 I am telling you the truth. 1731 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,330 So everyone else is lying. You're the only one telling the truth? 1732 00:50:27,330 --> 00:50:28,830 Absolutely. 1733 00:50:28,830 --> 00:50:35,170 And what if I said you have more incentive to evade the truth? 1734 00:50:35,300 --> 00:50:38,300 I'm saying I'm telling the absolute truth. 1735 00:50:38,300 --> 00:50:43,180 If anyone says different, they're the ones lying. And I'd like to hear what they say. 1736 00:50:43,180 --> 00:50:48,850 Listen to me. The Prime Minister is the most principled and honest person in the world. 1737 00:50:48,850 --> 00:50:50,850 My husband is the strongest Prime Minister we've ever had. 1738 00:50:50,860 --> 00:50:53,110 He protects our country, saves our country. 1739 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,820 This country has never had it better. 1740 00:50:55,940 --> 00:50:59,360 He's an admired leader around the world. 1741 00:50:59,530 --> 00:51:04,990 In three days we'll be at the White House, where he'll be welcomed like a king. 1742 00:51:05,370 --> 00:51:10,290 All over the world, leaders and the general public admire him. 1743 00:51:10,460 --> 00:51:15,590 When he walks the streets of New York or Australia, people stand around and applaud. 1744 00:51:15,670 --> 00:51:19,380 He's simply an admired leader around the world, who does great things for the State of Israel. 1745 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,880 The polls didn't predict such a decisive victory. 1746 00:51:56,300 --> 00:52:00,880 Now Prime Minister Netanyahu can begin his fourth term with confidence. 1747 00:52:01,130 --> 00:52:03,890 And who's to know... 1748 00:52:03,890 --> 00:52:09,140 whether after four terms, he will ever leave office? 1749 00:52:10,580 --> 00:52:14,790 Bibi! Bibi! Bibi! Bibi! 1750 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:21,320 Against all odds, we achieved a tremendous victory for the Likud! 1751 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:33,000 You are all important. And you are all important to me. 1752 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:41,820 It came to the point of what the French are saying, 1753 00:52:41,940 --> 00:52:44,910 "L'ร‰tat, c'est moi." "The country is me." 1754 00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:48,560 When people serve for too long... 1755 00:52:49,950 --> 00:52:52,330 ...it gets into their head. 1756 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,540 And we saw the breaking point 1757 00:52:56,670 --> 00:52:59,800 because the way he won the elections of 2015, 1758 00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:01,880 which was single-handedly. 1759 00:53:02,010 --> 00:53:04,680 The polls was predicting a loss, 1760 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,340 but he won... big-time! 1761 00:53:07,470 --> 00:53:10,260 And it did something to the ego. 1762 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,730 Around 2015, something changed. 1763 00:53:16,850 --> 00:53:22,400 It felt like he doesn't need to give any explanation to anybody at all, 1764 00:53:22,530 --> 00:53:24,530 like... like a Caesar. 1765 00:53:24,650 --> 00:53:28,370 And we need to obey... the rules 1766 00:53:28,490 --> 00:53:32,870 of... of not... not of the kingdom, of His Majesty. 1767 00:53:36,370 --> 00:53:39,580 At that time, there were no police investigations. 1768 00:53:39,710 --> 00:53:43,420 There was no threat to his rule. 1769 00:53:43,550 --> 00:53:46,290 He was seen, in Israel, 1770 00:53:46,410 --> 00:53:50,220 and also by Obama or Putin... 1771 00:53:50,350 --> 00:53:51,740 as... 1772 00:53:52,910 --> 00:53:57,980 ...the most powerful leader that Israel has ever had. 1773 00:54:04,030 --> 00:54:08,860 I want to remind you that I was the campaign manager. 1774 00:54:08,990 --> 00:54:11,910 You see that, on the stage, I was standing with them, too. 1775 00:54:12,030 --> 00:54:13,540 It's me. 1776 00:54:14,740 --> 00:54:18,200 It's only three of us - Bibi, Sara, and myself. 1777 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,260 It was a glamorous... wow... night... wow. 1778 00:54:30,090 --> 00:54:32,660 Do you remember Nir Hefetz? 1779 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,310 Yes, of course. Who doesn't? 1780 00:54:36,310 --> 00:54:38,790 Who is Nir Hefetz? 1781 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,500 Did she really ask who that is? 1782 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,340 What can I tell her? 1783 00:54:46,550 --> 00:54:50,090 Nir Hefetz was with the Prime Minister for a really long time. 1784 00:54:50,090 --> 00:54:55,350 He was his media consultant for many years. He was in charge of the campaigns. 1785 00:54:56,060 --> 00:55:02,860 Nir Hefetz knew how to climb, how to advance his career. 1786 00:55:04,250 --> 00:55:08,550 I was the closest aid to Sara Netanyahu, 1787 00:55:08,670 --> 00:55:11,300 and one of the closest to Benjamin Netanyahu. 1788 00:55:11,430 --> 00:55:15,270 And I was the personal spokesman of the whole family. 1789 00:55:19,270 --> 00:55:22,690 Many, many people - and especially leaders - 1790 00:55:22,810 --> 00:55:25,820 make the mistakes after such a huge success, 1791 00:55:25,940 --> 00:55:28,280 when they start to believe... 1792 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,880 that they are untouchable, that they are... 1793 00:55:32,110 --> 00:55:34,160 ...magicians. 1794 00:55:35,450 --> 00:55:38,450 Benjamin Netanyahu started believing 1795 00:55:38,580 --> 00:55:41,160 what his wife has been telling him for years. 1796 00:55:41,290 --> 00:55:42,830 "You're the one! 1797 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,710 "If you were not born in Israel, if you were born in Michigan, 1798 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,230 "you would be the President of the United States of America, for sure!" 1799 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,550 I think this night... 1800 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,010 was not only his biggest win, 1801 00:55:58,140 --> 00:56:02,190 it was also the day that he started to deteriorate. 1802 00:56:02,310 --> 00:56:06,190 And it ended not as I expected. 1803 00:56:06,310 --> 00:56:10,990 You know, life takes us to unexpected corners. 1804 00:56:22,770 --> 00:56:25,940 There are internal, family meetings 1805 00:56:25,980 --> 00:56:27,650 where they sit together with a few advisers. 1806 00:56:27,650 --> 00:56:29,360 You learn a lot. 1807 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:30,940 And you were exposed to these interactions? 1808 00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:33,530 I am telling you what I saw, and what I heard. 1809 00:56:33,530 --> 00:56:37,910 And after I testify, I think he'll also remember. 1810 00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:40,620 It's not testimony. It's lies that I am unaware of. 1811 00:56:40,620 --> 00:56:41,710 To me it sounds real. 1812 00:56:41,710 --> 00:56:43,420 Oh, it sounds real to you? 1813 00:56:43,420 --> 00:56:45,540 Nir Hefetz sounds real to you? 1814 00:56:45,540 --> 00:56:47,790 Guys, you are going to be very disappointed. 1815 00:56:48,380 --> 00:56:49,760 If this is your witness. 1816 00:56:50,380 --> 00:56:51,510 And this is your credibility. 1817 00:56:52,010 --> 00:56:54,590 He is just one of the witnesses. Nir Hefetz's testimony about you... 1818 00:56:54,590 --> 00:56:56,850 He is one of the witnesses. That's right. 1819 00:56:56,850 --> 00:57:00,470 And. this witness won't collapse, he already has. 1820 00:57:02,580 --> 00:57:08,000 Nir Hefetz became a very important witness, 1821 00:57:08,130 --> 00:57:10,630 because he is one of the messengers 1822 00:57:10,750 --> 00:57:12,760 between the tycoon Shaul Elovitch 1823 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,720 and the Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. 1824 00:57:16,550 --> 00:57:21,190 There is a big difference between Shaul Elovitch and Arnon Milchan. 1825 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,770 Shaul Elovitch doesn't like the limelight at all. 1826 00:57:26,900 --> 00:57:28,770 He never gave interviews. 1827 00:57:28,900 --> 00:57:32,360 He's very concentrating in doing money. 1828 00:57:33,590 --> 00:57:42,180 I'm asking that the interrogation be short, and no shouting, because I'm feeling sick. 1829 00:57:43,100 --> 00:57:45,600 But the interrogation won't be easy. 1830 00:57:45,730 --> 00:57:47,980 I don't know what "easy" or "difficult" mean here. 1831 00:57:47,980 --> 00:57:52,610 Meaning we won't be holding anything back. 1832 00:57:53,150 --> 00:57:56,910 Tell us about your relationship with Shaul Elovitch. 1833 00:57:56,910 --> 00:58:00,120 I'd call it a friendly acquaintance. 1834 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,750 The media describes it as a "close friendship," which is just not true. 1835 00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:07,500 It's basically an acquaintance. 1836 00:58:08,380 --> 00:58:10,920 He (Bibi) told me, "Keep Shaul safe." 1837 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,670 "Shaul is an important friend." 1838 00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:16,430 The message was loud and clear. "Keep Shaul safe." 1839 00:58:17,450 --> 00:58:19,360 Shaul Elovitch made his fortune 1840 00:58:19,490 --> 00:58:22,830 from importing Nokia cellphones. 1841 00:58:22,950 --> 00:58:28,710 And in a certain point of time, he took very big loans from the banks 1842 00:58:28,830 --> 00:58:32,130 in order to finance his... 1843 00:58:32,250 --> 00:58:35,710 upgrading to become such a tycoon. 1844 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,260 At the end of 2016, 1845 00:58:39,380 --> 00:58:42,180 Elovitch was in a state of panic. 1846 00:58:42,300 --> 00:58:45,680 He had a deadline, paying back loans 1847 00:58:45,810 --> 00:58:48,230 of billions of dollars to the banks. 1848 00:58:49,290 --> 00:58:51,840 I never in my life discussed this with either Bibi or Sara. 1849 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:56,260 I never spoke with Sara, and I never complained to Bibi. 1850 00:58:56,550 --> 00:59:01,800 I thought I'd need to call Shaul an ambulance to the ER. 1851 00:59:02,100 --> 00:59:06,560 It looked like all the stress was giving him a heart attack. 1852 00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:12,040 And from Netanyahu, Elovitch needs a signature 1853 00:59:12,170 --> 00:59:15,880 that will allow him to get a very quick cash, 1854 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:20,680 something around $200 million. 1855 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:26,130 Bibi understood that Elovitch needed the signature very badly. 1856 00:59:26,290 --> 00:59:34,020 He asked that I take the document and personally hand it to Netanyahu. 1857 00:59:34,020 --> 00:59:36,570 Nir Hefetz goes to Netanyahu and give it to him. 1858 00:59:36,690 --> 00:59:38,150 Netanyahu reads it. 1859 00:59:38,340 --> 00:59:44,720 Do you remember that Nir Hefetz brought Elovitch's document, saying it was urgent? 1860 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,560 I don't remember anything like that. Absolutely not. 1861 00:59:50,060 --> 00:59:57,860 (Recording of Nir Hefetz): "I spoke to Netanyahu about it, and he's a sharp man, you don't have to tell him twice." 1862 00:59:57,900 --> 01:00:01,150 (Mouthing) Lies!! Lies! 1863 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:03,870 That's what he tells you? 1864 01:00:03,950 --> 01:00:11,830 Netanyahu read through the whole document right in front of me. 1865 01:00:11,830 --> 01:00:14,790 (Recording of Nir Hefetz) "He read page by page, right in front of me." 1866 01:00:14,790 --> 01:00:16,460 (Mouthing) Lies! 1867 01:00:16,500 --> 01:00:21,340 (Recording of Nir Hefetz) "Netanyahu read through the whole document right in front of me." 1868 01:00:21,380 --> 01:00:24,680 What a liar. 1869 01:00:25,970 --> 01:00:27,350 Listen until the end please. 1870 01:00:27,350 --> 01:00:32,270 He picked up the phone, and asked his secretary to arrange a meeting with Shaul Elovitch. 1871 01:00:32,660 --> 01:00:36,000 Now, the question is what Netanyahu wants 1872 01:00:36,130 --> 01:00:39,300 in return for this signature. 1873 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:47,050 It turns out that Shaul Elovitch is also the owner 1874 01:00:47,180 --> 01:00:49,760 of a small website called Walla, 1875 01:00:49,890 --> 01:00:53,560 a website with a news department. 1876 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,300 Walla is Israel's oldest news website. 1877 01:01:05,340 --> 01:01:07,260 It grew to be a very popular website. 1878 01:01:07,430 --> 01:01:10,390 At times, the most popular in Israel. 1879 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,640 Its audience is young. 1880 01:01:14,020 --> 01:01:21,530 And that's one of the reasons the Netanyahu family wanted its cooperation. 1881 01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:26,160 The Walla website, which reaches hundreds of thousands of people a day 1882 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,370 is of utmost importance. 1883 01:01:28,410 --> 01:01:31,330 You said tens of thousands? 1884 01:01:31,410 --> 01:01:36,210 Hundreds of thousands. Hundreds of thousands of voters a day. 1885 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:41,840 Benjamin Netanyahu values Walla, and wants positive media coverage from them. 1886 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,680 And that is where this problematic relationship starts. 1887 01:01:46,010 --> 01:01:49,550 Because Shaul Elovitch is certain that if he gives the Netanyahus 1888 01:01:50,010 --> 01:01:53,730 control over his newspaper, the website Walla 1889 01:01:54,060 --> 01:01:56,520 then he will get his signature. 1890 01:01:57,980 --> 01:01:59,980 Elovitch needs cash. 1891 01:02:00,820 --> 01:02:03,400 $250 million. 1892 01:02:06,670 --> 01:02:09,390 So, they had a secret meeting, 1893 01:02:09,510 --> 01:02:13,770 and in the end, Netanyahu received full control of Walla, 1894 01:02:13,890 --> 01:02:16,400 and Shaul Elovitch got the signature. 1895 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,540 Shaul Elovitch is a businessman whose fate is in your hands 1896 01:02:21,550 --> 01:02:24,710 with your signature on certain documents. 1897 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:28,760 The decisions I make in regards to him are totally clean. 1898 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,180 There's no doubt. 1899 01:02:31,180 --> 01:02:36,640 There's never any connection between press coverage and my official decisions. 1900 01:02:36,730 --> 01:02:39,230 I don't remember if Walla even came up. 1901 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:40,690 I did not consider it important 1902 01:02:40,940 --> 01:02:42,860 because there is no Quid Pro Quo! 1903 01:02:43,650 --> 01:02:48,910 The intervention in Walla's content was executed through every possible platform. 1904 01:02:49,370 --> 01:02:53,080 Phone calls, e-mails, text messages, WhatsApps 1905 01:02:53,830 --> 01:02:56,500 at every hour of the day. 1906 01:02:56,750 --> 01:02:59,370 Each time there was a request 1907 01:02:59,420 --> 01:03:09,880 either to change a title, publish a story, or do a live stream, or an interview 1908 01:03:10,550 --> 01:03:15,350 it all came from Bibi personally. And I would pass it to Shaul. 1909 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,480 (Recording of Nir Hefetz) "Netanyahu never told me 'Speak with Walla." 1910 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:24,730 (Recording of Nir Hefetz) "It was always 'Speak with Shau so they will stop broadcasting leftist propaganda.'" 1911 01:03:24,980 --> 01:03:26,820 Why did you get angry about their coverage? 1912 01:03:26,820 --> 01:03:28,530 I will tell you exactly. Why did you get angry about their coverage? 1913 01:03:28,530 --> 01:03:30,110 You maybe don't understand this 1914 01:03:30,110 --> 01:03:31,700 because you don't understand my viewpoint. 1915 01:03:31,910 --> 01:03:36,620 I consider the structure of the Israeli media 1916 01:03:36,660 --> 01:03:39,790 to be one of the biggest weaknesses in our democracy. 1917 01:03:39,790 --> 01:03:42,580 And this website is "Walla Hamas"! 1918 01:03:42,590 --> 01:03:44,500 That is its nickname, that's what it's called in the Likud party. 1919 01:03:44,500 --> 01:03:45,920 "Walla Hamas." 1920 01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:49,010 Netanyahu wanted positive coverage 1921 01:03:49,010 --> 01:03:52,140 so that anyone who visits Walla frequently 1922 01:03:52,390 --> 01:03:56,890 would think he's the King David of Israel. 1923 01:03:56,890 --> 01:03:59,350 That he's the wonderful leader leading Israel. 1924 01:03:59,940 --> 01:04:03,400 He wanted his wife to be pleased, that she'd look good in photographs. 1925 01:04:04,070 --> 01:04:07,480 How many photos were there? How were the photos? Did they have the right angle? 1926 01:04:09,780 --> 01:04:13,410 And he wanted his son to come off as a caring person with strong values 1927 01:04:13,410 --> 01:04:15,700 who does the right thing. 1928 01:04:17,410 --> 01:04:21,330 We felt like a restaurant serving only one person. 1929 01:04:21,710 --> 01:04:27,920 He arrives, and he wants that meat, and this salad, and gets whatever he wants. 1930 01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:29,880 So we used code words like 1931 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:35,010 "Parsley" was the request for more photos. 1932 01:04:35,050 --> 01:04:38,890 "Add lots of 'parsley' to the dish coming out!" 1933 01:04:41,140 --> 01:04:45,150 "Less paprika" meant not too spicy, less critical. 1934 01:04:46,230 --> 01:04:51,070 But the restaurant doesn't serve everyone. 1935 01:04:51,150 --> 01:04:56,490 Only one family was let in and allowed to order whatever they want. 1936 01:04:57,620 --> 01:05:00,580 You managed to make the Elovitches care about you? 1937 01:05:00,580 --> 01:05:02,580 Exactly! Thank God! 1938 01:05:02,580 --> 01:05:06,460 Thank God there were right wing people who supported us! 1939 01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:11,050 Isn't it enough that we're lying down, bleeding, wounded, surrounded by knives? 1940 01:05:11,050 --> 01:05:14,380 And you want us to be run over too? No! No! 1941 01:05:15,510 --> 01:05:20,520 I just want a little positive, objective and balanced press. That's all. 1942 01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:25,400 In the great ocean, in the tsunami that slaughters us 1943 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:30,570 with the firing squads who shoot, shoot, shoot, and assassinate my character. 1944 01:05:30,610 --> 01:05:33,030 People will never know about all the good that I do! 1945 01:05:33,070 --> 01:05:35,740 They will never know the truth, only the bad. 1946 01:05:35,740 --> 01:05:39,280 "She said that, she yelled this!" They're slaughtering me. 1947 01:05:53,220 --> 01:05:59,140 You investigate me because the Israeli police has become the Stasi secret police 1948 01:05:59,260 --> 01:06:02,680 wanting to overthrow the government. 1949 01:06:03,230 --> 01:06:04,980 You're trying to drive my parents crazy. 1950 01:06:04,980 --> 01:06:08,150 You know that a child is the most sensitive issue for every parent. 1951 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,610 A police force of mafiosos. 1952 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,200 Treating us like a crime family, disgusting. 1953 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,280 We're the Prime Minister's family. Nothing like it in the world. 1954 01:06:20,430 --> 01:06:22,640 Yair Netanyahu, his son, 1955 01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,970 became very important in this case. 1956 01:06:25,100 --> 01:06:27,440 Both of them, Yair and Sara, 1957 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:31,070 present a very brutal approach... 1958 01:06:31,190 --> 01:06:33,150 to politics. 1959 01:06:33,270 --> 01:06:34,980 A lot of power. 1960 01:06:35,110 --> 01:06:38,590 Never surrender, never compromise. 1961 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,180 Excuse me, but you're full of shit. 1962 01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,430 How are you not ashamed? 1963 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,810 This is what you do for? 1964 01:06:46,850 --> 01:06:48,650 This is what the Israeli police is doing? 1965 01:06:48,690 --> 01:06:52,690 When there are a 100,000 illegal Arab homes. It's just unbelievable! 1966 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,660 The obsession of Yair with the media 1967 01:06:56,790 --> 01:06:59,180 is similar a little bit to his father. 1968 01:06:59,300 --> 01:07:03,180 The Israeli media is a completely North Korean-style 1969 01:07:03,300 --> 01:07:05,770 socialist, communist propaganda. 1970 01:07:05,890 --> 01:07:10,480 I was blocked several times from Facebook for "hate speech." 1971 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,560 There are many examples to the influence of Yair over Bibi. 1972 01:07:13,690 --> 01:07:15,320 You can see it. 1973 01:07:15,510 --> 01:07:18,550 Everywhere! The Internet, the television, the radio, everything! 1974 01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,970 Everything is leftist! Left, left, left! 1975 01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,530 That's what the Israeli media is doing - 1976 01:07:23,660 --> 01:07:26,540 pretending to be objective but actually echoing the most 1977 01:07:26,660 --> 01:07:30,580 radical... Marxist... agenda. 1978 01:07:30,980 --> 01:07:32,900 Yair... 1979 01:07:32,900 --> 01:07:35,690 is ultra right wing. 1980 01:07:35,820 --> 01:07:40,530 I don't even think his father is as right leaning, 1981 01:07:40,530 --> 01:07:45,240 but Yair, he's a dictatorial right. 1982 01:07:45,850 --> 01:07:50,320 The common theme between the left in Israel, America, and Europe 1983 01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:54,970 is pushing forward illegal immigration and illegal immigrants, 1984 01:07:55,100 --> 01:07:59,900 because they want to change the identity of the country, 1985 01:08:00,030 --> 01:08:02,910 and make national identity obsolete. 1986 01:08:03,390 --> 01:08:11,980 From the moment he wakes up, and all night long, the guy's on the Internet. 1987 01:08:11,980 --> 01:08:15,980 He's a news junkie 24/7. He doesn't work. 1988 01:08:15,980 --> 01:08:21,950 He believes that his father is too weak. 1989 01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:26,370 Doesn't perform under pressure. 1990 01:08:26,950 --> 01:08:28,870 Isn't aggressive enough. 1991 01:08:28,870 --> 01:08:32,790 He even says that he's dedicating the next few years 1992 01:08:33,290 --> 01:08:36,880 to "make sure my father doesn't mess up." 1993 01:08:37,730 --> 01:08:39,610 Bibi told me one day, I remember, 1994 01:08:39,730 --> 01:08:42,200 that Yair can replace him. 1995 01:08:44,410 --> 01:08:45,950 I did this with my eyes. 1996 01:08:46,070 --> 01:08:47,980 I didn't say a word, I just... 1997 01:08:48,100 --> 01:08:50,450 My eyebrows went up. 1998 01:08:50,580 --> 01:08:53,500 "Yair can replace you? First of all..." 1999 01:08:53,630 --> 01:08:55,790 "..you can't appoint your son. 2000 01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,250 "Why can he be considered?" 2001 01:08:58,380 --> 01:09:00,170 He said, "Well, he has the capability." 2002 01:09:00,300 --> 01:09:02,300 He really thinks that it's like... 2003 01:09:02,430 --> 01:09:03,930 a kingdom. 2004 01:09:11,620 --> 01:09:13,710 You're only interested in hurting my father. 2005 01:09:13,750 --> 01:09:14,920 That's not true. 2006 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:19,460 Inaugurate some leftist who'll go back to '67 borders. That's your goal with this investigation. 2007 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,920 That's not true, it's the same as any other investigation. 2008 01:09:23,300 --> 01:09:24,260 Witch hunt! 2009 01:09:24,300 --> 01:09:25,680 Blood bath! 2010 01:09:26,850 --> 01:09:29,100 Stasi! Gestapo! 2011 01:09:29,140 --> 01:09:31,220 That's all I have to say. 2012 01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:33,430 Police state. 2013 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:34,850 Let's begin. 2014 01:09:35,190 --> 01:09:38,770 Did you get involved in Walla's content? 2015 01:09:40,020 --> 01:09:42,070 How would I intervene in content? 2016 01:09:42,110 --> 01:09:43,860 Again, you're answering my question with a question. 2017 01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:48,200 I'm asking you, did you intervene in Walla's content? 2018 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:54,830 No, but if they published lies and slander, I wanted to... I tried to fix it. 2019 01:09:54,830 --> 01:09:59,170 Is it possible that your son Yair instructed Nir Hefetz? 2020 01:09:59,210 --> 01:10:06,010 That my son Yair instructed Nir Hefetz? Absolutely not. Impossible. 2021 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:12,010 That he'd instruct him to do anything in relation to Elovitch? Have you lost your minds? 2022 01:10:12,020 --> 01:10:14,850 I thought that because the owners are conservatives 2023 01:10:15,060 --> 01:10:18,440 that maybe there's a greater chance that they'd have a listening ear. 2024 01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:22,480 And make the press more balanced and fair. 2025 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:30,280 Were you involved in approving the hiring of different editors? 2026 01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:35,460 They had a garbage leftist editor and replaced him with a bigger garbage leftist editor. 2027 01:10:36,620 --> 01:10:43,210 When Ilan Yeshua, the General Manager of Walla, fired me as the editor, he couldn't explain why. 2028 01:10:43,210 --> 01:10:53,640 He told me, "Look, I don't think you're a good manager. Better you're not the senior editor." 2029 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,980 Of course, later, when I saw the correspondence... 2030 01:10:58,440 --> 01:10:59,690 I understood. 2031 01:11:03,980 --> 01:11:07,280 I understood they demanded to fire me 2032 01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:14,660 along with anyone else who might block the biased content. 2033 01:11:24,670 --> 01:11:26,840 Hello. Good morning. 2034 01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:27,880 Good morning Nir. 2035 01:11:27,930 --> 01:11:29,550 Nir, do you recognize this guy? 2036 01:11:29,590 --> 01:11:31,470 Yes, it's Shaul Elovitch. 2037 01:11:31,470 --> 01:11:33,010 Shaul, do you recognize him? 2038 01:11:33,060 --> 01:11:34,810 Yes, Nir Hefetz. 2039 01:11:35,490 --> 01:11:40,790 This is a very conventional procedure to confront people. 2040 01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,000 You have a witness who is saying A, 2041 01:11:44,130 --> 01:11:46,250 and the other guy is saying B, 2042 01:11:46,380 --> 01:11:49,300 and all of the sudden, one of them understands 2043 01:11:49,420 --> 01:11:52,430 that the other one spoke against him. 2044 01:11:52,550 --> 01:11:55,480 Maybe he will sit in jail because of this guy. 2045 01:11:55,660 --> 01:12:01,460 Shaul comes up with this "solution." 2046 01:12:01,790 --> 01:12:02,670 Stop lying! 2047 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:07,170 That we need to get rid of our phones. 2048 01:12:07,460 --> 01:12:08,880 He's lying! 2049 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:10,170 If you yell at me... 2050 01:12:10,220 --> 01:12:11,880 I won't yell at you. 2051 01:12:11,930 --> 01:12:16,760 Shaul, at the end of that meeting did you change your phones? 2052 01:12:16,890 --> 01:12:19,020 Did you change your phones? 2053 01:12:19,060 --> 01:12:20,180 Answer the question, Shaul! 2054 01:12:20,230 --> 01:12:21,270 I'm answering you! 2055 01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:26,190 My phone was broken from the beginning. The screen was always black. 2056 01:12:26,210 --> 01:12:28,620 It's a crime to destroy your phone 2057 01:12:28,750 --> 01:12:32,050 when you know that it might contain evidence. 2058 01:12:32,170 --> 01:12:34,390 Elovitch's phones carried nothing. 2059 01:12:34,510 --> 01:12:37,140 They destroyed them, and they erased everything. 2060 01:12:37,620 --> 01:12:42,960 My dog, Lucky... we have a fish pond and he fell into it. 2061 01:12:43,460 --> 01:12:48,500 I ran to the dog and my phone fell into the fish pond. 2062 01:12:48,510 --> 01:12:49,670 And Lucky didn't catch it? 2063 01:12:49,670 --> 01:12:52,260 No, Lucky didn't catch it. The phone flew into the pond. 2064 01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,360 But then, Ilan Yeshua, 2065 01:12:55,490 --> 01:12:57,450 General Manager of Walla, 2066 01:12:57,570 --> 01:13:00,540 goes to the police with his cellphone, 2067 01:13:00,660 --> 01:13:03,120 gives all the text messages... 2068 01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:08,760 ..all the recordings that Ilan Yeshua did with them. 2069 01:13:10,630 --> 01:13:14,260 Shaul Elovitch and Mr Netanyahu, they knew nothing about it. 2070 01:13:14,380 --> 01:13:16,050 They were caught by surprise. 2071 01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:21,040 You write, "It's so frustrating that 'The Big Guy' goes out of his way to help us 2072 01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:26,250 and we can't reward him because of a bunch of losers." 2073 01:13:28,170 --> 01:13:29,840 I'm not talking about that "Big Guy." 2074 01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,300 You write, "The Big Guy is going out of his way to help us 2075 01:13:33,970 --> 01:13:37,720 and we can't reward him because of a bunch of losers." 2076 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,850 "The Big Guy pleasantly surprises me every day with the most important things." 2077 01:13:41,890 --> 01:13:45,190 "We must find a way to reward him." 2078 01:13:45,190 --> 01:13:48,650 What do you need to reward the Prime Minister for? 2079 01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:56,410 He says so himself! "We need to reward Netanyahu for everything he does for us." 2080 01:13:56,410 --> 01:13:59,700 "And how can we do that? Walla!" 2081 01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,830 It's a total lie! 2082 01:14:03,100 --> 01:14:05,310 The police sometimes attacked him 2083 01:14:05,430 --> 01:14:09,940 with all kinds of things, and he's, like, banging on the table. 2084 01:14:10,060 --> 01:14:15,320 "To what kind of low level you will get to try to catch me?!" 2085 01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:18,110 I'm sure he has a real fear that in the end, 2086 01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,280 he will send to jail. 2087 01:14:20,410 --> 01:14:22,630 And this is very scary, 2088 01:14:22,750 --> 01:14:26,920 to his legacy, to his freedom, to everything. 2089 01:14:27,150 --> 01:14:27,980 Let him stand here 2090 01:14:28,310 --> 01:14:29,980 and tell me the lies he's telling you. 2091 01:14:29,980 --> 01:14:30,940 Are you up for that? 2092 01:14:30,940 --> 01:14:32,980 Me? I am ready for it. Eager! 2093 01:14:33,150 --> 01:14:34,150 I don't know if attorneys would agree... 2094 01:14:34,150 --> 01:14:35,440 I don't know if my attorneys would agree... Nir Hefetz too? 2095 01:14:35,490 --> 01:14:38,410 Both of them! What, do you think I'm afraid of them? Those two liars?! 2096 01:14:38,530 --> 01:14:40,910 Shameless liars! 2097 01:14:40,910 --> 01:14:43,490 Without shame! Saying things that didn't happen! 2098 01:14:43,500 --> 01:14:49,040 That I "instructed them." And I'm hearing they've lined up their stories! 2099 01:14:49,500 --> 01:14:51,000 Both saying the same things? 2100 01:14:51,130 --> 01:14:52,290 He's lying! 2101 01:14:52,380 --> 01:14:53,840 All they say about these things! 2102 01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:57,720 What is this? And you take this seriously? 2103 01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,110 Today I informed the Prime Minister's counsels 2104 01:15:19,110 --> 01:15:20,950 and Mr. Benjamin Netanyahu 2105 01:15:20,950 --> 01:15:22,870 of my decision to take him to trial 2106 01:15:22,870 --> 01:15:25,080 with an indictment including three charges. 2107 01:15:25,830 --> 01:15:28,330 A day when the Attorney-General 2108 01:15:28,330 --> 01:15:31,500 decides to indict a serving Prime Minister 2109 01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,710 with charges of corruption of power 2110 01:15:34,710 --> 01:15:38,130 is a hard and sad day for the Israeli public. 2111 01:15:38,130 --> 01:15:40,130 And for me personally. 2112 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,700 When they published the criminal charges against him, 2113 01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:48,370 I called him up and I said, "Bibi, what's gonna happen? 2114 01:15:48,500 --> 01:15:50,120 "This is serious business. 2115 01:15:50,250 --> 01:15:53,420 "They would not bring these up without good evidence." 2116 01:15:53,540 --> 01:15:57,210 I said to him, "Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, 2117 01:15:57,340 --> 01:15:59,420 "you're in trouble. 2118 01:15:59,550 --> 01:16:01,650 "And, uh... 2119 01:16:03,180 --> 01:16:06,640 "..it could end up with jail." 2120 01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,270 And he gave his usual story, "It's terrible. 2121 01:16:09,390 --> 01:16:12,560 "There's no democracy in the world that would do this." 2122 01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:19,670 This evening, we are witnessing an attempted coup against the Prime Minister. 2123 01:16:19,670 --> 01:16:24,720 Based on false claims and a series of grueling and systematic interrogations. 2124 01:16:26,100 --> 01:16:30,270 The interrogators didn't pressure witnesses to tell the truth 2125 01:16:30,390 --> 01:16:35,110 but rather extorted them to lie. 2126 01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:39,110 I think anyone who hears me right now should be absolutely horrified. 2127 01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:43,240 In what democracy, in what lawful country do such things happen? 2128 01:16:43,660 --> 01:16:47,700 There's a law for everyone else, and there's a law for Netanyahu. 2129 01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,810 Benjamin Netanyahu was before a judge a short time ago, 2130 01:16:53,930 --> 01:16:56,440 saying he's not guilty of bribery, fraud, 2131 01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,400 and breach-of-trust charges. 2132 01:17:00,730 --> 01:17:03,400 There was, like, a precedence - 2133 01:17:03,530 --> 01:17:08,160 no prime minister will serve when, at the same time, 2134 01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,450 he has a criminal case going on 2135 01:17:11,580 --> 01:17:15,790 just 5km from his Prime Minister office. 2136 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,380 It's absurd! 2137 01:17:18,500 --> 01:17:21,510 You're supposed to resign. Everybody did it. 2138 01:17:21,630 --> 01:17:23,630 He is the only one who didn't. 2139 01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,780 I won't let the lies win. 2140 01:17:27,950 --> 01:17:31,250 I'll continue to lawfully lead the country. 2141 01:17:32,410 --> 01:17:37,750 Lead with dedication and duty. 2142 01:17:38,670 --> 01:17:42,010 Out of care for our security and future. 2143 01:17:45,950 --> 01:17:48,570 Unnecessary. Unnecessary. 2144 01:17:48,700 --> 01:17:50,950 It was a result of arrogance. Arrogance. 2145 01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,250 He was challenging the system. 2146 01:17:53,370 --> 01:17:56,670 He said, "No, I'm above, I'm beyond, 2147 01:17:56,790 --> 01:17:58,510 "no-one can touch me. 2148 01:17:58,630 --> 01:18:01,500 "You dare not do it. And if you do it, this is manipulation." 2149 01:18:01,990 --> 01:18:04,320 Many times my jaw dropped 2150 01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,530 when I was reading the investigation materials... 2151 01:18:06,530 --> 01:18:08,410 Is Netanyahu our patriot? 2152 01:18:08,410 --> 01:18:10,330 Or the patriot of himself and his family? 2153 01:18:10,330 --> 01:18:13,870 Senior Likud members, some close to Netanyahu... 2154 01:18:13,870 --> 01:18:16,710 say they estimate this is the end of an era. 2155 01:18:17,980 --> 01:18:20,020 After the indictment, 2156 01:18:20,150 --> 01:18:22,820 the centre-left parties in Israel, 2157 01:18:22,940 --> 01:18:24,900 they all decided to ban him. 2158 01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,870 It made him more right-wing in his position, 2159 01:18:29,990 --> 01:18:35,080 and it made him dependent on the extreme right in Israel. 2160 01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,150 We have an opportunity we can't miss. 2161 01:18:38,810 --> 01:18:41,570 To form a full-on right-wing government. 2162 01:18:42,030 --> 01:18:44,780 We can achieve our dream government! 2163 01:18:46,010 --> 01:18:48,380 Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, 2164 01:18:48,510 --> 01:18:52,890 he's nurtured the extreme right to boost coalition numbers. 2165 01:18:53,010 --> 01:18:56,030 Netanyahu needs the far right's backing 2166 01:18:56,150 --> 01:19:00,140 as he tries to swerve corruption charges, which he denies. 2167 01:19:00,270 --> 01:19:03,480 He has officially formed the country's most-far-right-ever government. 2168 01:19:03,610 --> 01:19:05,780 With some of the most fringe, 2169 01:19:05,900 --> 01:19:08,780 vile figures in all of Israeli politics. 2170 01:19:08,900 --> 01:19:11,070 - Itamar Ben-Gvir. - Bezalel Smotrich. 2171 01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,410 Their opponents call them "pyromaniacs," 2172 01:19:13,530 --> 01:19:16,200 as they portray themselves as patriots. 2173 01:19:17,540 --> 01:19:21,140 Without Netanyahu, the fascist extreme right 2174 01:19:21,260 --> 01:19:27,050 were considered not legitimate players within the Israeli political system. 2175 01:19:27,170 --> 01:19:30,430 They were considered very extreme, 2176 01:19:30,550 --> 01:19:33,930 and nobody wanted to touch them or deal with them. 2177 01:19:34,620 --> 01:19:36,080 Thank you, Chairman. 2178 01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,710 My fellow Members of Knesset 2179 01:19:40,460 --> 01:19:43,170 I want to stand here and say unequivocally 2180 01:19:43,420 --> 01:19:46,880 there is no such thing as the Palestinian people, period. 2181 01:19:47,670 --> 01:19:49,680 There is none. There was none. 2182 01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:50,680 Period. 2183 01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,830 You just have to listen to Smotrich and to Ben-Gvir. 2184 01:19:57,950 --> 01:20:01,750 Smotrich is a Jewish terrorist. 2185 01:20:02,020 --> 01:20:07,320 You're actually the one who arrested him in August 2005. 2186 01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:12,200 You found bottles of burnt fuel, right? 2187 01:20:12,700 --> 01:20:15,330 There were a whole lot of flammables in that house. 2188 01:20:15,330 --> 01:20:19,330 Later we also found boxes and boxes of road spikes 2189 01:20:19,330 --> 01:20:21,750 that they were planning on throwing on the roads. 2190 01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,570 He had all the instruments 2191 01:20:26,690 --> 01:20:31,080 in order to use it for a terror action, 2192 01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,490 but he kept silence, 2193 01:20:33,610 --> 01:20:36,990 and because we do not interrogate Jewish terrorists 2194 01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,410 the way we interrogate Palestinian terrorists, 2195 01:20:40,540 --> 01:20:42,000 he did not confess. 2196 01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,790 And this is why he was not in jail. 2197 01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,050 When it comes to Ben-Gvir, 2198 01:20:48,180 --> 01:20:52,160 he supported the assassination of Prime Minister Rabin 2199 01:20:52,290 --> 01:20:54,180 when he was a youngster. 2200 01:20:54,300 --> 01:20:56,680 He was once filmed holding a hood emblem 2201 01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:00,600 he claimed was from the car of former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, 2202 01:21:00,730 --> 01:21:03,780 an architect of the Israeli-Palestinian peace process. 2203 01:21:05,340 --> 01:21:09,050 You managed to snatch the emblem from Rabin's car. 2204 01:21:09,340 --> 01:21:12,720 The emblem is a symbol, and it symbolizes that just like we got to the emblem 2205 01:21:12,930 --> 01:21:14,510 we can get to Rabin as well. 2206 01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:18,970 I think one is justified in committing horrible acts against him. 2207 01:21:22,870 --> 01:21:26,380 A Jewish extremist assassinated Rabin three weeks later. 2208 01:21:29,250 --> 01:21:32,380 Ben-Gvir, he was not recruited to military service 2209 01:21:32,510 --> 01:21:35,880 because he was condemned in court 2210 01:21:36,010 --> 01:21:39,100 as one who support Jewish terror. 2211 01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:42,810 He's the follower of a racist movement, 2212 01:21:42,930 --> 01:21:47,160 and wants to expel what he calls "disloyal Arabs." 2213 01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:51,730 I love Israel, and I don't want to... 2214 01:21:53,990 --> 01:21:55,570 Just a minute! 2215 01:21:55,700 --> 01:21:58,410 They want... They want kill me and kill you, 2216 01:21:58,530 --> 01:21:59,910 the Jihadisti! 2217 01:22:00,030 --> 01:22:02,160 In occupied East Jerusalem, 2218 01:22:02,290 --> 01:22:03,910 he pulled out his gun, 2219 01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:07,290 calling for Palestinians who throw stones to be shot. 2220 01:22:07,420 --> 01:22:11,460 He see violence as a legitimate action. 2221 01:22:11,590 --> 01:22:16,470 These are people that Netanyahu would not agree to take picture with 2222 01:22:16,590 --> 01:22:18,590 just two, three years ago. 2223 01:22:19,550 --> 01:22:23,850 But now, Smotrich is the Minister of Finance, 2224 01:22:23,970 --> 01:22:28,190 and Ben-Gvir is the Minister of National Security. 2225 01:22:29,190 --> 01:22:33,110 He is now captive to their whims! 2226 01:22:34,230 --> 01:22:36,320 They are pro-expansion of Jewish settlements 2227 01:22:36,440 --> 01:22:39,360 in the occupied West Bank, 2228 01:22:39,490 --> 01:22:42,830 retaking land they believe belongs to them. 2229 01:22:42,950 --> 01:22:46,270 These people are messianic annexationists... 2230 01:22:46,390 --> 01:22:49,350 Yes, we've approved nine outposts, nine settlements, 2231 01:22:49,610 --> 01:22:52,070 and God willing, we'll approve many more. 2232 01:22:52,090 --> 01:22:53,750 ..Jewish supremacists... 2233 01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,090 What do you say to those who say you are 2234 01:22:56,210 --> 01:22:58,860 inciting violence against Palestinians? 2235 01:22:59,030 --> 01:23:00,620 The Jewish people have human rights. 2236 01:23:00,620 --> 01:23:02,330 Palestinians, Palestinians. 2237 01:23:02,370 --> 01:23:04,120 You keep asking about Palestinians. 2238 01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:05,080 You don't care about Jews. 2239 01:23:07,610 --> 01:23:12,490 These people want to settle Gaza and the West Bank. 2240 01:23:35,990 --> 01:23:38,490 Since Netanyahu and his extremist gang assumed power 2241 01:23:38,700 --> 01:23:43,120 the crimes have become extreme and horrific in the West Bank. 2242 01:23:54,340 --> 01:23:57,300 On April 20th, we were heading to 2243 01:23:57,300 --> 01:24:00,760 a location of a car accident. 2244 01:24:03,140 --> 01:24:05,850 We encountered settlers attacking homes 2245 01:24:05,850 --> 01:24:07,770 and burning them down. 2246 01:24:08,100 --> 01:24:10,690 It was very dangerous. 2247 01:24:11,350 --> 01:24:14,230 The occupation forces and settlers were outraged 2248 01:24:14,230 --> 01:24:16,320 by the presence of the ambulance on site. 2249 01:24:17,900 --> 01:24:20,490 They shot at our ambulance driver... 2250 01:24:22,030 --> 01:24:24,030 and killed him. 2251 01:24:25,870 --> 01:24:27,660 He bled... 2252 01:24:27,660 --> 01:24:31,460 he bled all over the ambulance, 2253 01:24:32,290 --> 01:24:34,000 This was the hardest thing ever 2254 01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,210 to have him bleed to death between your hands. 2255 01:24:36,210 --> 01:24:39,970 And there was nothing we could do to help him. There was nothing I could do to save his life. 2256 01:24:43,180 --> 01:24:46,350 We are unarmed. 2257 01:24:47,390 --> 01:24:48,600 We are paramedics. 2258 01:24:49,270 --> 01:24:52,270 Trying to help injured people. 2259 01:24:55,440 --> 01:25:00,190 Every unimaginable atrocity happened during the rule 2260 01:25:00,190 --> 01:25:05,620 of the extremist ministers Ben-Gvir and Smotrich 2261 01:25:05,620 --> 01:25:09,620 and their Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. 2262 01:25:14,290 --> 01:25:17,380 Israelis are constantly being represented as immoral. 2263 01:25:17,380 --> 01:25:20,460 โ€œHow are you doing these things to the poor Palestinians?" 2264 01:25:20,470 --> 01:25:22,510 When that's not the reality! 2265 01:25:22,510 --> 01:25:26,010 They attack and murder us, when all we do is open our arms to them. 2266 01:25:27,470 --> 01:25:30,930 We will annex, whether you like it or not. 2267 01:25:31,350 --> 01:25:33,480 Because this is our Land of Israel. 2268 01:25:33,650 --> 01:25:37,730 It was given to us since the dawn of time by God almighty. 2269 01:25:38,980 --> 01:25:41,070 I want to erase the thing called "The Authority." (The Palestinian Authority) 2270 01:25:41,070 --> 01:25:42,240 There will be no "Authority." 2271 01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:44,740 What are you going to do with the 3 million people that live here? Who will accept them? 2272 01:25:44,740 --> 01:25:48,450 Wait a minute, there are many places in Europe that are looking for working hands. 2273 01:25:48,450 --> 01:25:49,830 We can do it, even in agreements. 2274 01:25:49,830 --> 01:25:50,910 We will bring them to Europe? 2275 01:25:53,810 --> 01:25:57,730 I think one of the most unknown issues regarding Israel, 2276 01:25:57,850 --> 01:26:02,030 that 20% of the population are Arab-Palestinians. 2277 01:26:03,940 --> 01:26:08,830 For a Palestinian who lives in the state of Israel... 2278 01:26:08,950 --> 01:26:13,670 being a member of the Knesset is a very, very complicated issue. 2279 01:26:16,660 --> 01:26:18,950 You never go happy to work. 2280 01:26:22,170 --> 01:26:26,880 This man is now the minister that is controlling the police, 2281 01:26:27,010 --> 01:26:32,350 and he is bringing his racist, violent ideology 2282 01:26:32,480 --> 01:26:35,020 in all the policing system inside Israel. 2283 01:26:37,100 --> 01:26:40,520 Smotrich would do ethnic cleansing 2284 01:26:40,650 --> 01:26:43,510 based on his published plan. 2285 01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:49,630 That's... Bibi's governing coalition. 2286 01:26:51,950 --> 01:26:53,870 For them, Ben-Gvir and Smotrich, 2287 01:26:53,990 --> 01:26:58,120 they have zero interest in the corruption cases, 2288 01:26:58,250 --> 01:27:02,040 because Netanyahu is the messiah's donkey. 2289 01:27:02,170 --> 01:27:06,630 He can bring us all our fantasies, all our dreams, 2290 01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:11,890 our vision to annex Judea and Samaria, 2291 01:27:12,010 --> 01:27:14,850 to kill, one time and for all, 2292 01:27:14,970 --> 01:27:16,930 the idea of Palestinian state. 2293 01:27:17,060 --> 01:27:22,160 So, what happened in 2023? 2294 01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:28,740 What was the difference between 2023 and the 20 years that came before? 2295 01:27:28,860 --> 01:27:32,250 Only one thing - the Supreme Court. 2296 01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:42,170 The Supreme Court was perceived by his partners - 2297 01:27:42,290 --> 01:27:44,460 the Ben-Gvirs, the Smotriches - 2298 01:27:44,590 --> 01:27:48,170 as the rival of what they want to achieve. 2299 01:27:48,300 --> 01:27:50,430 Because if you are an annexationist, 2300 01:27:50,550 --> 01:27:53,140 the Supreme Court might stop you, 2301 01:27:53,260 --> 01:27:57,180 so you need to castrate the Supreme Court from being able to stop you. 2302 01:28:00,230 --> 01:28:03,900 At the same time, Netanyahu realised 2303 01:28:04,020 --> 01:28:09,860 judicial reform could be a way to legislate his way out... 2304 01:28:09,990 --> 01:28:12,290 of his legal predicament. 2305 01:28:15,620 --> 01:28:18,540 Netanyahu looked at the Supreme Court 2306 01:28:18,670 --> 01:28:23,510 as an immediate, direct, personal threat to him. 2307 01:28:25,170 --> 01:28:29,260 It was a week after the government was formed... 2308 01:28:29,380 --> 01:28:31,970 Netanyahu presented a very drastic, 2309 01:28:32,090 --> 01:28:36,470 very aggressive reform against the legal system. 2310 01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:41,060 And he just... put all Israel in turmoil. 2311 01:28:50,740 --> 01:28:52,650 The people said, "Enough is enough." 2312 01:28:54,660 --> 01:28:57,160 The legal reform that he wanted 2313 01:28:57,290 --> 01:29:00,200 made it so Netanyahu would appoint 2314 01:29:00,330 --> 01:29:03,830 the judges that will hear his appeal. 2315 01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:06,200 I mean, it was... And it was transparent. 2316 01:29:07,380 --> 01:29:12,020 He wanted to avoid any prison time. 2317 01:29:13,300 --> 01:29:17,550 He wanted to change the way we elect judges. 2318 01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:20,180 "We need to change the power that they have, 2319 01:29:20,310 --> 01:29:23,770 "so they will have much less power, the Supreme Court. 2320 01:29:23,890 --> 01:29:27,230 "We need to change the police, we need to change the Attorney General, 2321 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,900 "we need to choose a different Attorney General." 2322 01:29:30,020 --> 01:29:35,530 He wanted to break the bones of the system 2323 01:29:35,660 --> 01:29:38,870 before they are coming close 2324 01:29:38,990 --> 01:29:42,080 to determine his political and personal fate. 2325 01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,920 What do you say to your critics that say that this reform 2326 01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:48,380 is designed, in part, for you to protect yourself? 2327 01:29:48,500 --> 01:29:52,770 I think it's ridiculous. This has nothing to do with my trial... 2328 01:29:54,010 --> 01:29:57,050 There is no question in my mind... 2329 01:29:57,180 --> 01:30:01,560 that the burden of the investigation, the fear of the investigation, 2330 01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:04,930 has led him to take terrible decisions 2331 01:30:05,060 --> 01:30:07,900 that were completely affected 2332 01:30:08,020 --> 01:30:11,170 by his fears and his agony. 2333 01:30:12,940 --> 01:30:15,020 Jail is a threat, 2334 01:30:15,140 --> 01:30:18,570 and he can identify threat 2335 01:30:18,700 --> 01:30:22,410 more than any other person whom I met, 2336 01:30:22,540 --> 01:30:27,080 because he is always afraid. 2337 01:30:27,210 --> 01:30:28,710 What do you say to people who say 2338 01:30:28,830 --> 01:30:30,510 you're only trying to override the judiciary 2339 01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:34,010 - because of your own interests? - None of the reforms... That's false. 2340 01:30:34,130 --> 01:30:36,260 None of the reforms that we're talking about - 2341 01:30:36,380 --> 01:30:39,720 these democratic reforms - have anything to do with my trial. 2342 01:30:43,770 --> 01:30:46,390 All these people protesting just don't get it? 2343 01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:48,440 Many of them don't. Many of them... 2344 01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,020 Isn't that slightly patronising, Prime Minister? 2345 01:30:50,150 --> 01:30:51,890 - No, I don't think so. - To tell your own people, 2346 01:30:52,020 --> 01:30:53,610 who are protesting in the hundreds of thousands... 2347 01:30:53,730 --> 01:30:54,980 I didn't say that all of them don't! 2348 01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:00,410 Do you accept the premise that the public is upset about this? 2349 01:31:00,530 --> 01:31:03,490 Well, some of it is upset. 2350 01:31:03,620 --> 01:31:06,370 You wouldn't know about the other side that seeks... 2351 01:31:06,500 --> 01:31:08,460 that wants to have the judicial reform 2352 01:31:08,580 --> 01:31:11,000 because their demonstrations are not covered. 2353 01:31:11,130 --> 01:31:13,430 So, yes, there is a divided country right now. 2354 01:31:15,590 --> 01:31:19,300 The public response was the most massive demonstration 2355 01:31:19,430 --> 01:31:22,580 that we had seen ever, on any issue. 2356 01:31:22,700 --> 01:31:27,640 And it was week after week after week for something like 39 weeks! 2357 01:31:27,770 --> 01:31:32,400 It was young and old, and religious people even came, 2358 01:31:32,530 --> 01:31:35,020 and, of course, secular and kids. 2359 01:31:35,150 --> 01:31:36,900 My kids were in the streets. 2360 01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:41,490 Your cameraman was beaten many times, 2361 01:31:41,610 --> 01:31:45,120 I believe, and was arrested, or whatever happened to him. 2362 01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:48,000 Everybody was in the street. 2363 01:31:49,910 --> 01:31:53,250 Bibi made major mistakes. 2364 01:31:53,380 --> 01:31:57,210 What he did to my country is terrible. 2365 01:31:57,340 --> 01:31:59,510 It's really unforgivable. 2366 01:32:00,590 --> 01:32:02,340 And he knows what he's doing. 2367 01:32:02,470 --> 01:32:04,260 It's not that he doesn't know. 2368 01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:07,820 It was too much. 2369 01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:13,730 At that point, I said, "I'm coming out and I'm speaking in public." 2370 01:32:15,670 --> 01:32:18,510 Netanyahu will be remembered as the destroyer of the state 2371 01:32:18,510 --> 01:32:20,720 as the one who tore it to pieces. 2372 01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:23,600 And why? 2373 01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:27,970 Because the democratic state won't let him escape due process. 2374 01:32:28,930 --> 01:32:30,440 But have no doubt 2375 01:32:30,440 --> 01:32:33,400 we will fight with determination and courage. 2376 01:32:36,090 --> 01:32:39,420 Netanyahu's legal predicament... 2377 01:32:39,550 --> 01:32:42,970 was undermining our security. 2378 01:32:43,090 --> 01:32:48,180 The army started to say that, "Look, our enemies... 2379 01:32:48,310 --> 01:32:49,520 "are watching us." 2380 01:32:53,140 --> 01:32:56,770 We were weak, but not because of the protests... 2381 01:32:56,900 --> 01:32:59,360 because of the policy that he led. 2382 01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:04,820 And it was clear to me that our resilience... is falling apart. 2383 01:33:04,950 --> 01:33:09,200 It create a huge danger - security danger - 2384 01:33:09,330 --> 01:33:12,960 because our enemies understand it... 2385 01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:15,670 sometimes earlier than we do. 2386 01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:57,400 I am getting messages from scared civilians 2387 01:33:57,770 --> 01:33:59,190 that are begging for help. 2388 01:33:59,650 --> 01:34:00,440 "Where is the army?" 2389 01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:06,700 People infiltrated in here. Ben get in the car! 2390 01:34:31,810 --> 01:34:35,190 Our brothers died because of you! We will shoot you all! 2391 01:35:06,990 --> 01:35:11,530 I didn't expect October 7th to happen. 2392 01:35:11,660 --> 01:35:15,370 I didn't expect it, but I wish I could say I was surprised. 2393 01:35:16,750 --> 01:35:20,270 Things have been heating up for a while. 2394 01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:25,820 I'm not very old - I'm 20 years old - 2395 01:35:25,950 --> 01:35:29,040 but for my entire life, I have known... 2396 01:35:30,340 --> 01:35:34,640 ...bombs and war, and now, this situation. 2397 01:35:46,530 --> 01:35:49,740 I was raised in Kibbutz Be'eri, in the Negev, 2398 01:35:49,860 --> 01:35:53,620 which is in the south of this land. 2399 01:35:53,740 --> 01:35:56,990 The kibbutz, it's very based on community. 2400 01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:01,250 There's a lot of agriculture and nature. 2401 01:36:01,370 --> 01:36:03,670 It's not that big - everybody knows everybody else - 2402 01:36:03,790 --> 01:36:07,960 and we are a very tight-knit community in that sense. 2403 01:36:09,470 --> 01:36:15,300 On October 7th, people from Hamas entered my kibbutz 2404 01:36:15,430 --> 01:36:17,680 in the early morning 2405 01:36:17,810 --> 01:36:21,600 and started burning houses... 2406 01:36:22,690 --> 01:36:24,860 ...and murdering people. 2407 01:36:30,490 --> 01:36:34,570 Over 90 people that I used to know are dead now... 2408 01:36:38,170 --> 01:36:40,500 ...which is a lot to grapple with. 2409 01:36:41,710 --> 01:36:43,760 It's a lot to comprehend. 2410 01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:47,590 There are people that are still held hostage, 2411 01:36:47,710 --> 01:36:50,330 as well as people that... 2412 01:36:50,460 --> 01:36:52,390 we don't know where they are. 2413 01:36:55,930 --> 01:36:59,140 Bibi has not been to Be'eri since October 7th, 2414 01:36:59,270 --> 01:37:03,690 and I don't want him to come, because... 2415 01:37:03,810 --> 01:37:06,310 I would never welcome him in my home. 2416 01:37:06,440 --> 01:37:10,320 He was Prime Minister ever since I can remember, 2417 01:37:10,440 --> 01:37:16,240 and, living on the border, I always felt... 2418 01:37:16,370 --> 01:37:20,330 the effects of that - negative effects of that, always - 2419 01:37:20,450 --> 01:37:23,580 of his choices and his policies and how that affected me, 2420 01:37:23,710 --> 01:37:25,920 and later, his corruption, as well. 2421 01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:29,210 And I don't want to hear his name, 2422 01:37:29,340 --> 01:37:31,510 I don't want to see his face. 2423 01:37:31,630 --> 01:37:33,390 I am exhausted of him. 2424 01:37:38,660 --> 01:37:44,870 Do you remember that line from The Godfather? 2425 01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:49,670 "Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer." 2426 01:37:49,670 --> 01:37:53,510 Lower the flames, maintain a conversation. 2427 01:37:53,510 --> 01:37:58,810 I'll give you an example. Today, with our enemies, we are in talks 2428 01:37:58,810 --> 01:38:05,440 no one thinks we can manage to reach an agreement with them. 2429 01:38:05,440 --> 01:38:11,070 But we control the height of the flames. 2430 01:38:11,300 --> 01:38:15,880 The public blames Netanyahu for October 7th 2431 01:38:16,010 --> 01:38:19,890 as the one who fed the beast. 2432 01:38:20,010 --> 01:38:23,600 He did not create Hamas, but he fed it. 2433 01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:25,500 Netanyahu... 2434 01:38:25,630 --> 01:38:27,940 who is against peace... 2435 01:38:28,060 --> 01:38:32,230 and who is against having a Palestinian state... 2436 01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:36,060 dealt with Hamas for a long time... 2437 01:38:36,180 --> 01:38:39,070 as a strategic friend. 2438 01:38:39,510 --> 01:38:41,890 This is confidential and can't be leaked. Okay? 2439 01:38:41,890 --> 01:38:46,020 We have neighbors here, sworn enemies. 2440 01:38:46,020 --> 01:38:48,270 I'm constantly passing them messages. 2441 01:38:48,270 --> 01:38:52,070 I confuse them, mislead them, lie to them 2442 01:38:52,070 --> 01:38:54,900 and then hit them over their heads. 2443 01:38:56,050 --> 01:39:01,430 It was important for him to keep Gaza under the control of Hamas, 2444 01:39:01,550 --> 01:39:05,520 and keeping the West Bank under the control of Fatah, 2445 01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:10,650 and preventing them from being united in any way. 2446 01:39:10,770 --> 01:39:12,650 In order to do so, 2447 01:39:12,770 --> 01:39:16,440 Netanyahu was, all the time, helping Hamas to survive. 2448 01:39:21,980 --> 01:39:25,120 At the same time that he was under investigation, 2449 01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:28,710 he arranged for Hamas to receive 2450 01:39:28,830 --> 01:39:32,420 $35 million every month from Qatar. 2451 01:39:32,540 --> 01:39:35,800 Netanyahu can't give them money by himself. 2452 01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,550 Israel will not give money to the Hamas. 2453 01:39:38,670 --> 01:39:42,010 You cannot even transfer this money through banks, 2454 01:39:42,140 --> 01:39:44,510 because even the banks don't want to cooperate. 2455 01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:47,480 So, you, the Israeli Prime Minister, 2456 01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:51,900 needs to beg this small and very rich country, Qatar, 2457 01:39:52,020 --> 01:39:55,650 to give money... to our enemy. 2458 01:39:57,450 --> 01:40:02,740 These suitcases of money was given to Hamas... 2459 01:40:02,870 --> 01:40:06,750 under the request of Benjamin Netanyahu personally! 2460 01:40:07,750 --> 01:40:11,790 And because the Qatarians knew him from the beginning... 2461 01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:13,920 they were asking him... 2462 01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:17,390 to send them his requests in writing... 2463 01:40:18,630 --> 01:40:22,010 ...because they knew that he was going to lie in the future. 2464 01:40:24,510 --> 01:40:27,000 He allowed more than one billion 2465 01:40:27,130 --> 01:40:30,140 to be transferred to the hands of the Hamas 2466 01:40:30,270 --> 01:40:31,890 because he believed 2467 01:40:32,020 --> 01:40:36,400 that he can control the level of hatred. 2468 01:40:37,480 --> 01:40:41,050 It's nonsense. He cannot control the flames. 2469 01:40:41,220 --> 01:40:44,890 Mr. Prime Minister, what is your opinion of Qatari money entering Gaza? 2470 01:40:44,890 --> 01:40:47,350 Will it help keep the calm in the Strip? 2471 01:40:48,430 --> 01:40:50,480 I do whatever I can 2472 01:40:50,480 --> 01:40:54,020 in coordination with the security agencies... 2473 01:40:55,070 --> 01:40:58,940 to bring quiet back to the towns in southern Israel. 2474 01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:02,110 Every step has a price, without exception. 2475 01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:04,120 When you take steps as a leader... 2476 01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,030 There. Is. Always. A. Price. 2477 01:41:06,030 --> 01:41:08,330 If you cannot handle the price, you cannot lead. 2478 01:41:08,950 --> 01:41:10,620 And I know how to handle the price. 2479 01:41:14,180 --> 01:41:17,980 Your strategy was... keep Hamas there, 2480 01:41:18,110 --> 01:41:21,070 weaken the Palestinian authority on the West Bank, 2481 01:41:21,190 --> 01:41:25,410 sustain the extremists, weaken the moderates. 2482 01:41:27,450 --> 01:41:33,170 This exploded in our faces in the most brutal way on October 7th. 2483 01:41:35,150 --> 01:41:39,750 Bibi tells the world, again and again and again, 2484 01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:41,760 "I am the expert on terrorism. 2485 01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:43,970 "I know how to fight terrorism. 2486 01:41:44,090 --> 01:41:46,430 "I am the protector of Israel." 2487 01:41:46,550 --> 01:41:50,180 And under his... regime, 2488 01:41:50,310 --> 01:41:54,730 we get into this incredible, unbelievable war. 2489 01:42:24,660 --> 01:42:27,820 Citizens of Israel, we are at war. 2490 01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:30,790 Not an operation, not a round of fighting. 2491 01:42:30,990 --> 01:42:32,080 At war! 2492 01:42:38,770 --> 01:42:42,480 Chaos, carnage and confusion today in the Middle East. 2493 01:42:42,610 --> 01:42:44,990 Four months after the terror attack in Israel, 2494 01:42:45,110 --> 01:42:47,240 the fighting continues. 2495 01:42:48,450 --> 01:42:52,830 It started with my neighbours in my Kibbutz being killed, 2496 01:42:52,950 --> 01:42:56,830 and it continues with my neighbours in Gaza being killed. 2497 01:42:58,710 --> 01:43:03,880 The death toll inside Gaza now surpasses 15,000 Palestinians... 2498 01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:07,050 - ..20,000 people... - ..now more than 25,000... 2499 01:43:07,170 --> 01:43:09,930 ..more than 30,000 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza 2500 01:43:10,050 --> 01:43:12,140 since October 7th. 2501 01:43:24,230 --> 01:43:27,860 The far right in Israel want a constant war, 2502 01:43:27,990 --> 01:43:31,870 never-ending war, because they think, in their fantasy, 2503 01:43:31,990 --> 01:43:35,290 that we can eradicate the Hamas from Gaza Strip, 2504 01:43:35,410 --> 01:43:40,250 and then we can eliminate Hezbollah from Lebanon, 2505 01:43:40,370 --> 01:43:44,380 and maybe we can have a Jewish presence in Gaza Strip 2506 01:43:44,500 --> 01:43:46,170 and in South Lebanon. 2507 01:43:48,550 --> 01:43:51,090 The people who are talking about a military solution, 2508 01:43:51,220 --> 01:43:53,720 I mean, what's happening right now is not a solution, 2509 01:43:53,850 --> 01:43:56,810 it's just a massacre in Gaza. 2510 01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:02,230 I don't think that makes anything in our future better 2511 01:44:02,350 --> 01:44:06,190 and anything in our present better, it's just horrible. 2512 01:44:12,570 --> 01:44:15,580 This death, this pain, this cruelty 2513 01:44:15,700 --> 01:44:17,630 became bigger and bigger and bigger. 2514 01:44:19,410 --> 01:44:23,460 As the Gaza war continues, so, too, does the hostage crisis. 2515 01:44:23,580 --> 01:44:27,380 Despite the return of dozens of kidnapped Israelis during the temporary truce, 2516 01:44:27,510 --> 01:44:30,590 many more still remain in Gaza. 2517 01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:34,930 I have been waiting for the government to bring me my son, Matan. 2518 01:44:35,050 --> 01:44:37,010 I can't wait any more. 2519 01:44:37,140 --> 01:44:39,100 I can't sit at home and wait. 2520 01:44:39,220 --> 01:44:43,770 My son should be home yesterday! Now! 2521 01:44:43,900 --> 01:44:46,940 The kidnapped must come home. In this minute! 2522 01:44:47,070 --> 01:44:50,110 - Everybody should scream about it! - Can't be longer! 2523 01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:53,110 It cannot be longer like this! 2524 01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:57,620 In my judgment, hostages come first and foremost, 2525 01:44:57,740 --> 01:45:00,370 above any other objective of the war. 2526 01:45:01,410 --> 01:45:04,440 We know that not all of them are surviving. 2527 01:45:06,170 --> 01:45:08,170 Destroying Hamas can wait. 2528 01:45:09,300 --> 01:45:11,930 But the hostages cannot wait another day. 2529 01:45:13,470 --> 01:45:15,800 But Bibi's government, 2530 01:45:15,930 --> 01:45:19,970 they are not willing to hear of ending the war. 2531 01:45:21,370 --> 01:45:23,790 I just had a meeting with the Prime Minister. 2532 01:45:24,130 --> 01:45:27,960 The Prime Minister heard me, promised me Israelis entering Rafah. 2533 01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:32,380 Promised we are not ending the war and not giving in to foolish deals. 2534 01:45:32,380 --> 01:45:34,090 I bless these decisions. 2535 01:45:34,090 --> 01:45:35,850 The Prime Minister understands 2536 01:45:35,850 --> 01:45:39,010 there will be grave consequences otherwise. 2537 01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:46,110 The "price" of the hostages 2538 01:45:46,110 --> 01:45:50,860 you can use that as a cynical campaign slogan... 2539 01:45:50,860 --> 01:45:51,530 Cynical? 2540 01:45:51,530 --> 01:45:54,200 Yes. It's one of our biggest dilemmas. 2541 01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:57,280 You just called it a "cynical campaign?" 2542 01:45:57,280 --> 01:46:00,580 Tell me what's cynical about us trying to... 2543 01:46:00,580 --> 01:46:01,910 No, you shut up! 2544 01:46:01,910 --> 01:46:11,300 Sinwar is demanding we release hundreds of terrorists. Murderers with blood on their hands. 2545 01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:13,130 You have blood on your hands! 2546 01:46:13,130 --> 01:46:18,550 Hamas has existed for 20 years, and for 20 years you've done nothing about it! At least do something useful now! 2547 01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:23,100 Or put your own kids there! Get ours out and put yours in! 2548 01:46:23,440 --> 01:46:24,020 Why are you yelling? 2549 01:46:24,020 --> 01:46:25,230 Why are you yelling? Why are you pompous?! 2550 01:46:25,230 --> 01:46:27,610 I'm yelling because this is shameful! 2551 01:46:29,710 --> 01:46:34,300 The hostage families, they ask for a meeting with the Prime Minister, 2552 01:46:34,420 --> 01:46:36,090 because they are desperate. 2553 01:46:37,590 --> 01:46:41,220 In this desperation, when they come to him, 2554 01:46:41,350 --> 01:46:45,080 and she's sitting next to him, Sara Netanyahu. 2555 01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:50,650 There were some reports about things that she said in those meetings, 2556 01:46:50,770 --> 01:46:54,650 trying to encourage them to say good things about the Prime Minister, 2557 01:46:54,780 --> 01:46:58,240 "or else why should we help them?" 2558 01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:03,270 Now to the Sara Netanyahu scandal 2559 01:47:03,430 --> 01:47:06,810 and her criticism toward the released hostages and their families. 2560 01:47:06,810 --> 01:47:11,070 Yes, last week in two different meetings that were held with Sara Netanyahu 2561 01:47:11,190 --> 01:47:16,030 the Prime Minister's wife expressed criticism over the released hostages and their families. 2562 01:47:16,030 --> 01:47:20,740 Madame First Lady, you complained that the families of released hostages did not thank the Prime Minister. 2563 01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:22,790 Do you want to comment on this? 2564 01:47:22,850 --> 01:47:26,060 The hostage families, they don't like it, 2565 01:47:26,180 --> 01:47:29,100 but if your son or father is in the hands of the Hamas, 2566 01:47:29,230 --> 01:47:30,650 you will do everything! 2567 01:47:30,770 --> 01:47:32,480 Flatter her. 2568 01:47:32,610 --> 01:47:34,530 Say good things about her. 2569 01:47:34,660 --> 01:47:36,970 Have a picture with her. Whatever she needs. 2570 01:47:38,780 --> 01:47:42,870 Instead of having the Prime Minister say, 2571 01:47:42,990 --> 01:47:45,870 "Let me tell you everything I can... 2572 01:47:45,990 --> 01:47:49,080 "about your beloved one, about the efforts to release them," 2573 01:47:49,210 --> 01:47:53,340 instead of that, you need to flatter the wife of the Prime Minister 2574 01:47:53,460 --> 01:47:56,260 and say, "Oh, Sara, you're so helpful," 2575 01:47:56,380 --> 01:48:01,090 and, "Thank you so much for investing the time and the energy." 2576 01:48:01,220 --> 01:48:04,970 The hostage families are in a very delicate situation. 2577 01:48:05,100 --> 01:48:10,310 Like, almost every hostage family I know is very, very critical of Netanyahu. 2578 01:48:10,440 --> 01:48:14,670 But I know that many of them are very, very scared 2579 01:48:14,790 --> 01:48:17,600 to speak their criticism, 2580 01:48:17,730 --> 01:48:19,650 that if they do... 2581 01:48:19,780 --> 01:48:23,370 the government will try even less for the hostages. 2582 01:48:23,490 --> 01:48:25,660 What is the higher priority at this moment - 2583 01:48:25,780 --> 01:48:27,370 totally eliminating Hamas, 2584 01:48:27,490 --> 01:48:30,750 or saving the lives of those hostages and getting them free? 2585 01:48:30,870 --> 01:48:35,250 The reason we succeeded in getting 110 hostages out - 2586 01:48:35,380 --> 01:48:37,130 that's half the hostages - 2587 01:48:37,250 --> 01:48:40,170 is because we applied military pressure, not because we stopped applying it. 2588 01:48:40,300 --> 01:48:44,550 We understand, also, that the one thing that gets Hamas to give them - 2589 01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:46,680 to give these hostages to us - 2590 01:48:46,810 --> 01:48:49,100 is the continued military pressure. 2591 01:48:49,220 --> 01:48:53,220 The only thing that gets Hamas to release the hostages is military pressure. 2592 01:48:54,230 --> 01:48:59,480 The argument that only military pressure will produce a deal 2593 01:48:59,610 --> 01:49:02,830 proved tragically erroneous. 2594 01:49:04,030 --> 01:49:07,240 And yet, the war continues aimlessly! 2595 01:49:07,370 --> 01:49:09,840 I mean, is the objective the last... 2596 01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:15,750 ...Hamas soldier with a weapon in a tunnel? 2597 01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:17,710 That will take years! 2598 01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:20,050 And how many casualties? 2599 01:49:20,170 --> 01:49:21,720 I think we have to finish the job. 2600 01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:23,220 We can finish the job. 2601 01:49:23,340 --> 01:49:26,890 Victory is within reach, and that's our goal - total victory. 2602 01:49:27,010 --> 01:49:30,390 Our fight is your fight, and our victory is your victory. 2603 01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:33,190 Tonight, I want to speak to you about total victory. 2604 01:49:33,310 --> 01:49:34,390 Total victory over Hamas. 2605 01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:37,230 Unless we have total victory, we can't have peace. 2606 01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:40,820 "Total victory" doesn't actually mean anything here, 2607 01:49:40,940 --> 01:49:42,490 in actuality. 2608 01:49:42,610 --> 01:49:45,070 You know all the casualties and death and suffering, 2609 01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:48,450 and that's what it looks like, in reality. That's what it looks like. 2610 01:49:48,580 --> 01:49:51,290 That's what those words actually mean. 2611 01:49:53,620 --> 01:49:57,330 My dear friends, the war in Gaza could end tomorrow 2612 01:49:57,460 --> 01:50:02,010 if Hamas surrenders, disarms, and returns all the hostages. 2613 01:50:05,050 --> 01:50:06,840 That's what "total victory" means, 2614 01:50:06,970 --> 01:50:09,260 and we will settle for nothing less! 2615 01:50:13,060 --> 01:50:16,300 Netanyahu goes to the Congress 2616 01:50:16,420 --> 01:50:19,610 because he needs the Americans desperately. 2617 01:50:19,730 --> 01:50:23,150 My friends, I came to assure you today of one thing - 2618 01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:26,110 we will win! 2619 01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:30,000 He wants the Israeli public to be proud 2620 01:50:30,130 --> 01:50:35,930 to have their leader speak in front of this very prestigious group... 2621 01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:40,440 ...and getting applaud so many times. 2622 01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:44,800 He's speaking to the American Congress, 2623 01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:47,460 but he's really speaking to the Israeli public. 2624 01:50:48,470 --> 01:50:51,470 Together, we shall defend our common civilisation. 2625 01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:56,690 Together, we shall secure a brilliant future for both our nations! 2626 01:50:58,900 --> 01:51:02,610 Well, I would say that, tragically, 2627 01:51:02,730 --> 01:51:04,620 the Americans don't know how to call him out. 2628 01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:11,320 There was no plan for ending the war of Gaza, 2629 01:51:11,450 --> 01:51:15,460 bringing the hostages home, and changing dynamics in the region. 2630 01:51:15,590 --> 01:51:17,830 And things only got worse. 2631 01:51:24,670 --> 01:51:28,840 Netanyahu is the architect of chaos. 2632 01:51:30,550 --> 01:51:35,140 And, as we speak, when all eyes are on the front in Gaza 2633 01:51:35,270 --> 01:51:38,310 and the front in Lebanon... 2634 01:51:42,980 --> 01:51:45,900 ..he is implementing his plan in the West Bank 2635 01:51:46,030 --> 01:51:48,990 with the extreme right. 2636 01:51:53,870 --> 01:51:58,870 He may create a situation where it's irreversible. 2637 01:52:00,500 --> 01:52:03,960 He's the great example... 2638 01:52:04,090 --> 01:52:07,760 of a leader that lead his people... 2639 01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:08,970 to the wrong place. 2640 01:52:13,510 --> 01:52:15,850 But this is the reality 2641 01:52:15,970 --> 01:52:20,020 in which he will preserve his political power. 2642 01:52:27,230 --> 01:52:30,650 And he knows how to manipulate. 2643 01:52:30,780 --> 01:52:32,830 He needs it, in a way. 2644 01:53:09,300 --> 01:53:10,550 Okay. 2645 01:53:12,010 --> 01:53:12,680 Goodbye, thank you. 2646 01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:13,550 Goodbye, thank you, Happy holidays. 2647 01:53:13,550 --> 01:53:15,640 Time flies when you're having fun. 2648 01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:17,470 Goodbye, thanks so much. 138777

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