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928
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Is it working?
929
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Well, with your permission Prime Minister
930
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according to the rules, I am informing you that you are being investigated.
931
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You don't have to say anything
932
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but everything that you say is documented, and may be used against you in a court of law.
933
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Nothing concentrates the mind
934
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like the prospect of being hanged.
935
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With Netanyahu,
nothing concentrates his mind
936
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more than the sound
937
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of the prison gate
938
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slammed behind his back.
939
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You're asking me delusional questions
940
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trying to get to the bottom of my cup and ashtray.
941
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This is preposterous and insane.
942
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You're trying to incriminate the Prime Minister on nonsense.
943
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So, everything that he has done
944
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over the last five years
945
00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,400
was so focused
946
00:02:03,530 --> 00:02:06,610
on that sound of the gate
947
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potentially slammed behind his back.
948
00:02:25,510 --> 00:02:29,060
To fully understand
the chaos in the region,
949
00:02:29,180 --> 00:02:33,250
one has to look back
at the Prime Minister's legal predicament.
950
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The corruption trial
became a dominant factor
951
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in his decision-making.
952
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The engine is the corruption cases.
953
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And it all started with the fact
that the Prime Minister
954
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does not respect the law.
955
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Anyone that dared to touch Mr Netanyahu
956
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is doomed.
957
00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:10,000
And after the catastrophe
of the 7th of October,
958
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the war became
another instrument to stay in power.
959
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He survive in a state of war.
960
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He survive in a state of instability.
961
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He survive when we fight each other.
962
00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,450
He survive
when our enemies fight each other.
963
00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:37,340
A forever war
is beneficial to Netanyahu.
964
00:03:37,460 --> 00:03:41,880
This make people feel like
they are always in danger,
965
00:03:42,050 --> 00:03:43,510
like they always need him.
966
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There's always some huge threat.
967
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I think that
that helps him remain Prime Minister.
968
00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:07,410
It's not a cover-up.
It's not that he tried to kill evidence.
969
00:04:07,530 --> 00:04:09,740
He tried to kill the system!
970
00:04:09,870 --> 00:04:13,080
He took all of us hostage in this trial.
971
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I am a political analyst
for Channel 13.
972
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In the news company...
973
00:04:51,490 --> 00:04:54,790
we did hundreds of investigative reports
over the years,
974
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on everybody.
975
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Stories about Prime Minister Sharon,
976
00:04:58,750 --> 00:05:00,840
stories about Prime Minister Barak,
977
00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,420
and I did a lot of the stories
of Prime Minister Netanyahu.
978
00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:10,640
Do the Netanyahus
know who you are?
979
00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,970
"Do the Netanyahus...?"
Yes, they know.
980
00:05:14,100 --> 00:05:17,480
The Netanyahus family
and Mr Netanyahu
981
00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,360
single me out
as one of their worst enemies
982
00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,170
for the last 15 years or so.
983
00:05:24,280 --> 00:05:26,150
He sued me three times.
984
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But he received zero.
985
00:05:28,490 --> 00:05:30,510
There was no case.
986
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It got to the point that they
demanded for my channel to fire me,
987
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or at least get me out
to a long, long vacation...
988
00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,420
if they want to get something
from the government.
989
00:05:44,550 --> 00:05:46,830
It was me or the channel.
990
00:05:50,300 --> 00:05:54,850
Netanyahu, over the years,
had many corruption cases.
991
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In 1997,
992
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he was investigated for
appointing the attorney general
993
00:06:00,810 --> 00:06:02,870
in some corrupt deal.
994
00:06:04,190 --> 00:06:09,070
Later, he was interrogated
for getting gifts.
995
00:06:11,610 --> 00:06:17,950
Also, one case that starts
from investigative reports that I made,
996
00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:22,880
it's about the submarines deal
that Israel has with Germany.
997
00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,140
But he was never prosecuted.
998
00:06:29,010 --> 00:06:32,550
When you do something wrong
and you get away with it,
999
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once, and twice, and three times,
and 10 times, and 20 times,
1000
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you are beginning to think
you are immune,
1001
00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,140
that nothing will touch you.
1002
00:06:42,230 --> 00:06:47,150
So, it wasn't long before
Netanyahu was into trouble, again.
1003
00:07:07,820 --> 00:07:12,490
A few rules, your honor the Prime Minister, and then we will continue the investigation.
1004
00:07:12,740 --> 00:07:16,160
Just so I understand, these are the suspicions that you raise
1005
00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,910
in this specific investigation or in any investigation?
1006
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In this investigation.
1007
00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,120
But there could be other investigations?
1008
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That's correct.
1009
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The police, because it was
a Prime Minister investigation
1010
00:07:31,070 --> 00:07:35,820
and they knew that it
will be very high-profile,
1011
00:07:35,950 --> 00:07:37,910
they investigated everybody.
1012
00:07:38,030 --> 00:07:39,700
I mean hundreds of people.
1013
00:07:39,830 --> 00:07:43,120
Some of the witnesses
were interrogated twice,
1014
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three times, four times.
1015
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You have a rare opportunity
1016
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to see the most powerful people in Israel
1017
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in interrogation rooms,
1018
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dealing with questions
that were never being asked.
1019
00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,470
"What did you give? What did you get?
1020
00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,930
"How many times you met him?"
1021
00:08:03,060 --> 00:08:07,030
And you see people
in the most tense part of their life.
1022
00:08:08,170 --> 00:08:11,340
We always pay when we go out with them.
1023
00:08:11,550 --> 00:08:14,470
Why do you always pay? Ask them.
1024
00:08:15,970 --> 00:08:18,010
All of Bibi's friends are rich.
1025
00:08:18,010 --> 00:08:20,850
So that's the essence of your friendship? Money?
1026
00:08:21,350 --> 00:08:24,480
What can I say? If this comes out I'm dead.
1027
00:08:24,980 --> 00:08:27,360
"Get me a Cohiba Behike cigar."
1028
00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:28,940
That's what he asked for?
1029
00:08:28,940 --> 00:08:32,190
$1100 US for a box of ten.
1030
00:08:32,190 --> 00:08:33,280
Wow.
1031
00:08:33,820 --> 00:08:38,660
I'll give you whatever you want, I just don't know... Something criminal you mean?
1032
00:08:38,660 --> 00:08:40,660
We're reviewing criminal activity.
1033
00:08:41,250 --> 00:08:44,830
There was a whole industry, that until today...
1034
00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,580
An industry of what?
1035
00:08:46,580 --> 00:08:51,300
An industry of high value gifts that you can't even imagine.
1036
00:08:51,420 --> 00:08:52,800
From whom to whom?
1037
00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,130
Without specifying which gifts at which time-periods.
1038
00:08:55,260 --> 00:08:59,350
From super wealthy millionaires to Sara and Bibi.
1039
00:09:02,700 --> 00:09:05,370
Netanyahu, he keeps around him,
1040
00:09:05,500 --> 00:09:08,750
almost in every part in the world,
1041
00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,460
someone like a sugar daddy.
1042
00:09:11,590 --> 00:09:15,420
Everything you need
that was not supported by the country,
1043
00:09:15,550 --> 00:09:16,880
he will do it for you.
1044
00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,390
But when those guys
has interest in Israel...
1045
00:09:21,510 --> 00:09:23,930
business interests
or some other interest...
1046
00:09:24,060 --> 00:09:27,270
then it became very, very problematic.
1047
00:09:28,420 --> 00:09:32,380
Our first question for you is whether you, or any of your family members
1048
00:09:32,460 --> 00:09:37,630
have received any gifts or favors from wealthy businessmen in the last decade.
1049
00:09:38,140 --> 00:09:39,970
If I have received any gifts?
1050
00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:42,890
I received things from close friends...
1051
00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,640
from close acquaintances...
1052
00:09:45,730 --> 00:09:49,650
like cigars and things like that.
1053
00:09:49,690 --> 00:09:52,650
But only from close friends. That's not an illegal gift.
1054
00:09:52,730 --> 00:09:54,690
From what I've been told.
1055
00:09:55,690 --> 00:09:59,610
Please tell us, who are those close friends? Those you define as close friends.
1056
00:09:59,700 --> 00:10:01,620
And what did you get from them?
1057
00:10:01,700 --> 00:10:03,700
Very close friends...
1058
00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,710
that I have known for many years...
1059
00:10:08,710 --> 00:10:10,460
I have quite a few of those.
1060
00:10:11,420 --> 00:10:13,040
The question is who?
1061
00:10:16,730 --> 00:10:18,400
If you wanted to make a movie
1062
00:10:18,530 --> 00:10:21,020
about a fabulously wealthy
Israeli entrepreneur
1063
00:10:21,140 --> 00:10:23,030
who strikes it rich in Hollywood
1064
00:10:23,150 --> 00:10:26,870
after a successful career
as an international arms dealer
1065
00:10:26,990 --> 00:10:29,660
and undercover
operative for his government,
1066
00:10:29,790 --> 00:10:32,790
well, there's only one person
to produce it - Arnon Milchan.
1067
00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,730
It's his life story.
1068
00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,760
Arnon Milchan, it's a...
1069
00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,180
it's extraordinary story.
1070
00:10:43,300 --> 00:10:45,220
Arnon Milchan is an Israeli guy
1071
00:10:45,350 --> 00:10:50,600
who rise to fame by becoming
a Hollywood producer.
1072
00:10:50,730 --> 00:10:52,190
Congratulations.
1073
00:10:54,940 --> 00:10:57,400
He produced
some of the biggest hits,
1074
00:10:57,530 --> 00:10:59,570
and even won Oscars.
1075
00:11:00,820 --> 00:11:02,780
And he became a tycoon.
1076
00:11:08,180 --> 00:11:08,980
Noguchi.
1077
00:11:09,350 --> 00:11:10,020
Gauguin.
1078
00:11:10,900 --> 00:11:12,520
Blue period, Picasso.
1079
00:11:14,420 --> 00:11:16,670
He's based in the US,
1080
00:11:16,790 --> 00:11:21,330
but he always kept
a really good contacts in Israel.
1081
00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,800
Mostly and especially
with the Prime Minister.
1082
00:11:26,930 --> 00:11:30,220
Everybody knows that if you want
to speak with the Prime Minister,
1083
00:11:30,350 --> 00:11:32,230
go to Arnon.
1084
00:11:32,350 --> 00:11:34,810
If you need something from
the Prime Minister, go to Arnon.
1085
00:11:34,940 --> 00:11:38,230
This relationship, it's worth a lot.
1086
00:11:53,650 --> 00:11:56,310
Why can't the Prime Minister buy things for himself?
1087
00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:57,520
Ask him! Why can't the Prime Minister buy things for himself?
1088
00:11:57,610 --> 00:12:00,860
I'm asking you, because you were the one asked to buy it.
1089
00:12:00,860 --> 00:12:03,030
Because when he asks... I'm asking you, because you were the one asked to buy it.
1090
00:12:03,070 --> 00:12:08,790
and he's the Prime Minister, how do you say it? I need to help the country.
1091
00:12:08,830 --> 00:12:15,000
How is it helping the country? Is it easier to run a country with a bottle of champagne?
1092
00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,040
Look...
1093
00:12:17,630 --> 00:12:20,000
If you wouldn't have given him the gifts, would you...
1094
00:12:20,010 --> 00:12:21,670
I give gifts, so what?
1095
00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,220
For me...
1096
00:12:24,130 --> 00:12:25,180
It's not the end of the world.
1097
00:12:25,430 --> 00:12:29,310
It doesn't impact my financial life.
1098
00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,980
Did you give other gifts?
1099
00:12:33,140 --> 00:12:37,940
To other politicians? Like you did to Netanyahu?
1100
00:12:37,980 --> 00:12:41,750
The answer is no.
1101
00:12:41,750 --> 00:12:45,300
This case, the facts are really...
kind of simple.
1102
00:12:47,890 --> 00:12:50,300
The Prime Minister
and his wife, Sara,
1103
00:12:50,430 --> 00:12:54,680
were getting gifts
worth a quarter of a million dollars.
1104
00:12:54,810 --> 00:12:58,190
They really liked the good life.
1105
00:12:59,980 --> 00:13:01,360
And on the other side,
1106
00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,310
Netanyahu did so many favours
for Arnon Milchan.
1107
00:13:06,780 --> 00:13:11,030
Some people think
what Arnon Milchan really did was bribe.
1108
00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,700
He was bribing the Prime Minister,
1109
00:13:12,830 --> 00:13:15,580
and this was the allegation.
1110
00:13:18,670 --> 00:13:23,460
Government officials
are not allowed to take gifts, period.
1111
00:13:23,590 --> 00:13:24,630
Period!
1112
00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,300
This is corruption.
1113
00:13:27,380 --> 00:13:29,450
And we sent a president,
1114
00:13:29,570 --> 00:13:31,600
a minister of finance,
1115
00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,020
we sent them all to prison
for violating that principle,
1116
00:13:35,140 --> 00:13:37,810
that nobody is above the law.
1117
00:13:40,690 --> 00:13:43,650
The previous prime minister,
Mr Olmert,
1118
00:13:43,770 --> 00:13:47,030
he was investigated for corrupt deals
1119
00:13:47,150 --> 00:13:51,700
that were much, much less
than the State indicted Netanyahu for...
1120
00:13:52,780 --> 00:13:55,370
...and was sent to jail.
1121
00:13:55,490 --> 00:13:59,500
So, it's not something vague
for Netanyahu.
1122
00:13:59,620 --> 00:14:02,340
I'm sure he has a real fear that
in the end,
1123
00:14:02,460 --> 00:14:03,840
he will send to jail.
1124
00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,170
He might be 80 years old
when it will happen,
1125
00:14:07,300 --> 00:14:09,180
but it still can happen.
1126
00:14:09,660 --> 00:14:15,290
There is a whole industry trying to incriminate me. The public, and the media
1127
00:14:15,290 --> 00:14:17,750
they're working together to incriminate me.
1128
00:14:17,750 --> 00:14:20,250
I didn't know it before, but I know it now.
1129
00:14:20,250 --> 00:14:23,590
The media creates chaos.
1130
00:14:23,590 --> 00:14:29,550
"Oh, the indulgence of the Netanyahu couple, living the life of emperors."
1131
00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:31,760
This is nonsense.
1132
00:14:38,660 --> 00:14:41,920
It starts
with a flawed character.
1133
00:14:43,830 --> 00:14:46,120
It's his mindset.
1134
00:14:47,340 --> 00:14:50,760
"I deserve it,
and I can get away with it."
1135
00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,790
And it seemed to escalate with the years.
1136
00:14:57,890 --> 00:15:01,540
It mushroomed into something
much more comprehensive.
1137
00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,340
Does the sum seem reasonable to you?
1138
00:15:04,340 --> 00:15:06,550
I don't know. I can't tell you if it is reasonable or not.
1139
00:15:06,550 --> 00:15:07,340
You don't know?
1140
00:15:07,340 --> 00:15:08,260
No.
1141
00:15:08,260 --> 00:15:11,050
As a gift, is it a lot or a little?
1142
00:15:11,470 --> 00:15:16,140
If it was given all at once, I guess it's not small.
1143
00:15:16,140 --> 00:15:18,390
But if it was spread out over the years...
1144
00:15:18,390 --> 00:15:21,440
Sir, this is valued at tens of thousands of shekels each year.
1145
00:15:21,690 --> 00:15:22,980
I'm telling you what...
1146
00:15:22,980 --> 00:15:25,060
I didn't check, I didn't add it all up.
1147
00:15:25,110 --> 00:15:28,360
Apologies, I'm a bit...
1148
00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:29,610
It's okay!
1149
00:15:29,610 --> 00:15:33,410
Impatient because it's pissing me off.
1150
00:15:33,410 --> 00:15:36,490
The whole situation of us asking you questions?
1151
00:15:36,490 --> 00:15:40,870
The lengths to which Bibi has dragged me.
1152
00:15:40,870 --> 00:15:43,460
That man's ruined my life.
1153
00:15:43,670 --> 00:15:46,210
He knows I work hard. This is a tough job.
1154
00:15:46,210 --> 00:15:50,130
And he says, "If I can sweeten the life of my brother, who serves the State of Israel
1155
00:15:50,170 --> 00:15:52,260
when the public is critical
1156
00:15:52,300 --> 00:15:55,680
and when he's being pursued by the media and the police."
1157
00:15:55,720 --> 00:16:02,770
He said, "Maybe to give him some joy in his life, I'll send him some cigars."
1158
00:16:02,810 --> 00:16:05,350
So this is a crime? How terrible!
1159
00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,300
I was Arnon's personal assistant,
1160
00:16:16,430 --> 00:16:18,890
and this includes everything.
1161
00:16:20,010 --> 00:16:24,180
So, in the bottom of my heart,
I knew that police will come one day.
1162
00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,060
And I got a phone call...
1163
00:16:28,190 --> 00:16:30,980
which... from a number that I didn't know.
1164
00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:34,360
It was a police from Special Unit.
1165
00:16:34,490 --> 00:16:35,990
They said, "I can't tell you anything,
1166
00:16:36,110 --> 00:16:38,870
"and you are not allowed
to talk to anybody about it,
1167
00:16:38,990 --> 00:16:40,040
"just come."
1168
00:16:41,620 --> 00:16:46,410
The first question was about
champagne and cigars and gifts.
1169
00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,900
You can't say no to them. There's no way.
1170
00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,900
There's no such thing as showing up empty-handed.
1171
00:16:53,900 --> 00:16:58,640
And what you bring is not what you'd normally bring over to a friend. No way.
1172
00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,350
Hadas Klein, her formal status is
1173
00:17:01,470 --> 00:17:03,850
"assistant to Mr Arnon Milchan."
1174
00:17:03,970 --> 00:17:07,250
Arnon Milchan didn't make one call,
1175
00:17:07,380 --> 00:17:09,560
almost no call to anyone,
1176
00:17:09,690 --> 00:17:12,020
without putting Hadas Klein on the line.
1177
00:17:12,150 --> 00:17:15,360
She works with the most powerful people.
1178
00:17:15,490 --> 00:17:19,030
And she was very efficient,
very effective.
1179
00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,640
Very good in her job.
1180
00:17:20,810 --> 00:17:26,520
Here we have a purchase from March 2010.
1181
00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:27,600
It's for Bibi!
1182
00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,310
Boxes and boxes of Cohibas.
1183
00:17:29,730 --> 00:17:34,360
Everything here was purchased for one person...
1184
00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,950
and if you want their name, it's Benjamin Netanyahu.
1185
00:17:38,910 --> 00:17:41,780
The quantities were huge, really huge.
1186
00:17:41,830 --> 00:17:43,160
Really.
1187
00:17:43,620 --> 00:17:45,870
Both when Amen was here and when he wasn't here.
1188
00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,420
Huge in the last few years.
1189
00:17:49,350 --> 00:17:52,570
Is it volunteered, or is it demanded?
1190
00:17:52,690 --> 00:17:54,400
It's demanded.
1191
00:17:54,530 --> 00:17:55,820
It's demanded.
1192
00:17:55,940 --> 00:17:59,740
Its was... It was a supplyment line.
1193
00:18:04,370 --> 00:18:08,910
In the other room,
I heard that there is somebody else.
1194
00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,740
It was Shani.
Shani was part of our team.
1195
00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,090
The circle was very small...
1196
00:18:17,210 --> 00:18:19,630
like, the circle of people who knows.
1197
00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,410
It was a secret!
1198
00:18:22,580 --> 00:18:28,250
I felt it was wrong, but what could I do?
1199
00:18:28,250 --> 00:18:30,960
They instructed me to do it.
1200
00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,250
I'm just afraid my parents will find out and will be ashamed of me.
1201
00:18:36,380 --> 00:18:38,720
You have nothing to be ashamed of.
1202
00:18:39,220 --> 00:18:41,050
Of course I do.
1203
00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,760
You have nothing to be ashamed of.
1204
00:18:44,010 --> 00:18:47,560
Now the story is getting out.
1205
00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:54,070
And it's with my name, so people will know I've brought them things.
1206
00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,530
There were code names. Cigars were "green leaves."
1207
00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,960
And the champagne was "pinks."
1208
00:19:10,870 --> 00:19:17,050
I don't use code words to talk to people. I don't talk to my friends and family like that.
1209
00:19:17,090 --> 00:19:21,260
But in situations where you're doing things that are wrong
1210
00:19:21,430 --> 00:19:26,720
you are more likely to use code words, even if it sounds absurd.
1211
00:19:28,350 --> 00:19:32,440
Bibi requested the cigars be put in a bag for him.
1212
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,400
He would never carry them by hand.
1213
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:39,110
Yes, the demand was that nobody would be able to see these things.
1214
00:19:39,490 --> 00:19:40,700
Did you ask for it?
1215
00:19:40,820 --> 00:19:41,650
For what?
1216
00:19:41,700 --> 00:19:42,780
A bag.
1217
00:19:43,820 --> 00:19:45,780
Perhaps, I don't remember.
1218
00:19:45,830 --> 00:19:47,160
And if we told you that you did?
1219
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:47,790
So I asked, so what?
1220
00:19:47,830 --> 00:19:49,250
Concealed in a bag.
1221
00:19:49,790 --> 00:19:51,040
There's a chance, maybe.
1222
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,370
Why would you ask to conceal it in a bag?
1223
00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:54,630
I don't know.
1224
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,420
Did you feel uncomfortable leaving the house carrying cigars?
1225
00:19:58,460 --> 00:20:01,720
Maybe. Maybe yes and maybe no. I don't know.
1226
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,340
What do you mean "maybe yes or maybe no"?
1227
00:20:03,390 --> 00:20:05,510
I don't know, because it's not important to me.
1228
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,490
Bibi's lawyer,
at the beginning of this scandal,
1229
00:20:10,620 --> 00:20:13,980
told him to resign
and get out of politics.
1230
00:20:15,750 --> 00:20:19,300
But I think that he's worried
more details will come out
1231
00:20:19,420 --> 00:20:20,960
if he's not in power.
1232
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,050
One thing I want to say at some point...
1233
00:20:27,180 --> 00:20:31,400
is that I'm dividing the person
into two persons.
1234
00:20:31,530 --> 00:20:34,100
It's Bibi on the one...
My kind of Bibi,
1235
00:20:34,230 --> 00:20:38,400
not the crowd kind of Bibi,
and then there's Netanyahu.
1236
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,230
Otherwise, I can't handle the situation.
1237
00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:43,010
Is that okay?
1238
00:20:44,110 --> 00:20:46,950
He didn't have that many friends...
1239
00:20:47,070 --> 00:20:48,540
and I was...
1240
00:20:48,670 --> 00:20:51,240
Why is it that always people approach me,
1241
00:20:51,370 --> 00:20:53,960
"You're Bibi's friend?"
And everybody says the same,
1242
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,320
but it's because he didn't have
that many close friends ever.
1243
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,780
So...
1244
00:21:02,050 --> 00:21:03,460
...I'm the one.
1245
00:21:13,350 --> 00:21:16,480
We grew up in Jerusalem.
1246
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,270
There's one photo that somebody took
when we were, like,
1247
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,650
I don't know, 10 or 11,
and it's on the entrance to his home.
1248
00:21:23,780 --> 00:21:27,200
He was very much stronger than I am,
and much bigger.
1249
00:21:30,740 --> 00:21:32,830
Yoni was his older brother.
1250
00:21:32,950 --> 00:21:35,790
I think he was three years apart.
1251
00:21:35,910 --> 00:21:37,830
They looked very much alike.
1252
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,880
Same body structure, very similar.
1253
00:21:42,130 --> 00:21:45,920
They had a strong friendship,
admiration from Bibi to Yoni.
1254
00:21:46,050 --> 00:21:49,970
Yoni was like the star of the family.
1255
00:21:50,090 --> 00:21:52,890
The father and the mother
didn't ignore it.
1256
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,600
They were very much into
admiration of strength and power.
1257
00:22:01,900 --> 00:22:04,980
I don't think I was a macho,
but Bibi was a macho,
1258
00:22:05,110 --> 00:22:07,240
in many ways.
1259
00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:10,450
Good evening.
Pro-Palestinian extremists
1260
00:22:10,580 --> 00:22:13,490
have hijacked an Air France jet
to Uganda's Entebbe Airport.
1261
00:22:13,620 --> 00:22:17,030
Israeli government ministers
worked into the Jewish Sabbath tonight
1262
00:22:17,150 --> 00:22:19,710
on negotiations
for the release of about 100 Israelis
1263
00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:22,840
and other Jews
from Palestinian hijackers.
1264
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,300
On July 4th, 1976,
1265
00:22:25,420 --> 00:22:29,260
my brother Yoni,
lieutenant colonel and commander,
1266
00:22:29,380 --> 00:22:31,550
led his men to rescue hostages
1267
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,220
from Entebbe, Uganda,
in the heart of Africa.
1268
00:22:37,930 --> 00:22:39,800
The terrorists were now certain
1269
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,150
that they were beyond Israel's reach.
1270
00:22:48,070 --> 00:22:52,200
This operation was something
that was never done at this magnitude,
1271
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,280
to save so many people, so far away.
1272
00:22:54,410 --> 00:22:55,990
The whole thing is fantastic.
1273
00:22:56,120 --> 00:23:00,370
So much was written,
and there's a movie about it.
1274
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,340
Landing in the dead of night
at Entebbe Airport,
1275
00:23:09,470 --> 00:23:14,800
Yoni's force killed the terrorists,
and they liberated 102 hostages.
1276
00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:26,900
You had
only one person killed there,
1277
00:23:27,020 --> 00:23:29,230
who was the commander of the unit -
1278
00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:32,110
Yoni Netanyahu.
1279
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,950
He was a very young man.
1280
00:23:36,030 --> 00:23:38,300
So, for Bibi it was a...
1281
00:23:39,370 --> 00:23:41,540
...you know, major, major loss.
1282
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:47,170
Yoni,
my extraordinary older brother,
1283
00:23:47,290 --> 00:23:50,130
instantly emerged from anonymity to fame.
1284
00:23:50,260 --> 00:23:53,830
A person of exceptional intelligence
and dedication to Israel,
1285
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,230
he served as a model to be emulated.
1286
00:23:58,430 --> 00:24:03,140
Yoni's sacrifice and example
helped me overcome inconsolable grief,
1287
00:24:03,270 --> 00:24:06,440
and thrust me into
the public battle against terrorism.
1288
00:24:08,940 --> 00:24:12,150
Bibi sort of took over
the first son's role,
1289
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,770
and with the death of Yoni,
it was like a platform.
1290
00:24:17,530 --> 00:24:20,790
Yoni's death...
was definitely the making of Bibi.
1291
00:24:20,910 --> 00:24:22,330
There's no question about it.
1292
00:24:22,450 --> 00:24:26,790
It opened the door
for something new to start.
1293
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,140
And that's how it drove him to politics.
1294
00:24:30,270 --> 00:24:32,630
Benjamin Netanyahu,
like the country he represents,
1295
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,840
believes in attacking his attackers.
1296
00:24:35,970 --> 00:24:39,970
His job is to be an ambassador,
but his passion is a personal crusade
1297
00:24:40,100 --> 00:24:44,180
against international terrorism
and the states that sponsor it.
1298
00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:48,400
The US Embassy in Beirut tonight is a
floodlit scene of death and devastation.
1299
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,690
A car apparently packed with
more than 300lbs of explosives
1300
00:24:52,820 --> 00:24:55,240
blew up in the narrow drive
at the entrance to the embassy.
1301
00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:59,030
I think that this attack
was meant to serve
1302
00:24:59,150 --> 00:25:01,420
as a symbolic, psychological blow,
1303
00:25:01,540 --> 00:25:03,120
a defeat for the United States.
1304
00:25:03,250 --> 00:25:06,830
In the question of terrorism,
there is no neutrality.
1305
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,220
There is no position
of magisterial objectivity
1306
00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:10,670
between good and evil.
1307
00:25:10,790 --> 00:25:11,960
You have to choose.
1308
00:25:12,090 --> 00:25:14,260
You are either with the terrorists,
or you're against them.
1309
00:25:15,220 --> 00:25:16,880
Once he became a politician,
1310
00:25:17,010 --> 00:25:20,510
he was a major, major expert
on terrorism,
1311
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,850
and a protector of Israel.
1312
00:25:23,980 --> 00:25:27,810
Flight 847,
the TWA flight hijacked to Beirut,
1313
00:25:27,940 --> 00:25:30,560
now under control of two armed hijackers.
1314
00:25:30,690 --> 00:25:31,940
They want the prisoners you're holding,
the Lebanese Shi'ites.
1315
00:25:32,070 --> 00:25:33,400
Will you release them?
1316
00:25:33,530 --> 00:25:36,530
They have not made a concrete demand,
and I...our policy, as far as possible,
1317
00:25:36,650 --> 00:25:38,740
is not to concede to terrorist demands,
1318
00:25:38,860 --> 00:25:41,330
and certainly I believe,
based on what I've heard from Washington,
1319
00:25:41,450 --> 00:25:43,950
that that is your policy as well.
1320
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,040
His performance on television
used to be masterpieces.
1321
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,920
You don't surrender.
1322
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,460
Whatever you do,
you don't surrender to these killers.
1323
00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:54,300
Does the West have the will...
1324
00:25:54,420 --> 00:25:56,510
and the guts to fight back?
1325
00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:59,220
He knew exactly what to say,
how to say it.
1326
00:25:59,340 --> 00:26:03,720
He has this pleasant baritone,
his gestures...
1327
00:26:03,850 --> 00:26:06,060
You slap them on the wrist.
1328
00:26:06,180 --> 00:26:08,730
You make them stop and pause.
They try again.
1329
00:26:08,850 --> 00:26:11,610
You have to hit them again,
until they know that you are serious.
1330
00:26:11,730 --> 00:26:13,320
He became really... perfected it.
1331
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,730
If they are going to be unpunished,
1332
00:26:14,860 --> 00:26:17,490
they'll come back again,
there'll be other killings, other murders.
1333
00:26:17,610 --> 00:26:20,020
And they're testing us.
1334
00:26:20,140 --> 00:26:21,780
He was a great performer,
1335
00:26:21,910 --> 00:26:25,200
and it made him a very popular person.
1336
00:26:25,330 --> 00:26:26,500
He was the hero of the Jews,
1337
00:26:26,620 --> 00:26:28,500
and he was the hero
of the state of Israel,
1338
00:26:28,620 --> 00:26:31,420
standing against
all those who hate the Jewish people
1339
00:26:31,540 --> 00:26:32,920
and the state of Israel.
1340
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,220
This was a great...
a great campaign without campaigning.
1341
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,280
Ambassador Netanyahu plans to get involved in Israeli politics.
1342
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,370
He will likely run for a seat on the Likud's Knesset list.
1343
00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:46,660
I think the Arabs are ultimately human beings.
1344
00:26:46,830 --> 00:26:49,790
They are human beings and they won't slam their heads against the wall forever.
1345
00:26:50,170 --> 00:26:52,290
But if they see cracks in the wall
1346
00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:54,800
and they see part of the wall is damaged
1347
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,380
they will certainly persist.
1348
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,700
Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu,
1349
00:26:59,820 --> 00:27:02,160
46, thrice-married father of three,
1350
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,490
right-wing politician,
and now Israeli Prime Minister.
1351
00:27:06,620 --> 00:27:11,120
He became Prime Minister,
I think, he was 46 years old.
1352
00:27:11,250 --> 00:27:14,000
Very young.
And he had confidence.
1353
00:27:14,130 --> 00:27:17,340
It's an amazing success
when you think about it.
1354
00:27:17,460 --> 00:27:19,090
Enormous!
1355
00:27:19,530 --> 00:27:23,030
I am obligated to the values of liberty and democracy
1356
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,120
just as I am obligated to the eternal values of the Israeli nation.
1357
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,450
And there is no conflict between the two!
1358
00:27:31,370 --> 00:27:34,330
These elections clearly prove
1359
00:27:34,340 --> 00:27:36,670
that there is a God in the sky!
1360
00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:45,070
His ambition brought him
to the heights of success.
1361
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,140
Bibi! King of Israel!
1362
00:27:49,140 --> 00:27:52,390
He's alive and well!
1363
00:27:52,670 --> 00:27:55,460
To become
Prime Minister at the age that he did,
1364
00:27:55,580 --> 00:28:00,170
to exceed the founding father,
Ben Gurion,
1365
00:28:00,300 --> 00:28:02,920
in the duration of his premiership...
1366
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,170
...he reached heights beyond anyone else.
1367
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,520
But his moral flaws...
1368
00:28:14,970 --> 00:28:16,900
...turned it all upside down.
1369
00:28:34,770 --> 00:28:37,980
Sir, with your permission, I ask that you answer my question.
1370
00:28:37,980 --> 00:28:41,650
Did you see the big quantities of champagne that were delivered to your wife?
1371
00:28:41,650 --> 00:28:44,150
Do you suggest we ask your wife about it?
1372
00:28:44,490 --> 00:28:47,320
That's your decision.
1373
00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:51,450
You expect a husband to recommend his wife's interrogation?
1374
00:28:51,540 --> 00:28:54,670
I don't know, but I can tell you for a fact, it wasn't just once or twice.
1375
00:28:54,750 --> 00:28:57,000
Look, it's not my place to recommend her interrogation.
1376
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,300
How often do you investigate people for getting gifts from their friends?
1377
00:29:09,310 --> 00:29:12,770
What? You're bringing that up again? I thought we were done with that.
1378
00:29:12,770 --> 00:29:14,060
No, we're never done with that.
1379
00:29:14,060 --> 00:29:15,390
No, we're never done with that. Here it's done...
1380
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,850
Here we're through with that.
1381
00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:17,770
We're not done.
1382
00:29:17,770 --> 00:29:19,020
We're not done. Here we are though!
1383
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,190
We're talking. Excuse me!
1384
00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:23,400
This is the media, and a police state. We're asking about...
1385
00:29:23,490 --> 00:29:27,450
There are unsolved crimes and you're asking about bottles.
1386
00:29:27,530 --> 00:29:30,330
There's crime here, terrible things happen here.
1387
00:29:30,330 --> 00:29:35,000
We have terror attacks, and what are you doing? With all this nonsense of yours?
1388
00:29:35,370 --> 00:29:40,040
Your interrogations are meant to bring down the Prime Minister.
1389
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,880
Together with your accomplices.
1390
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,720
All the things we are presenting to you...
1391
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,680
Are false!
1392
00:29:48,150 --> 00:29:50,900
First of all,
Mrs Sara Netanyahu is very important
1393
00:29:51,030 --> 00:29:53,120
as a decision-maker...
1394
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,540
in everything
that goes around Mr Netanyahu.
1395
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:06,950
Sara intervenes in both political and media matters
1396
00:30:06,950 --> 00:30:09,910
as well as hidings for the office.
1397
00:30:11,260 --> 00:30:13,350
Benjamin Netanyhu is extremely skilful
1398
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,850
and knowledgeable and smart.
1399
00:30:15,970 --> 00:30:18,810
"But can we trust you?"
1400
00:30:18,940 --> 00:30:23,480
So, that's Sara's responsibility.
1401
00:30:23,610 --> 00:30:27,990
So, once he thinks that
someone has the right skills...
1402
00:30:28,110 --> 00:30:31,350
still, Sara needs to give her approval...
1403
00:30:31,470 --> 00:30:33,580
that we, the Netanyahu family,
1404
00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:37,330
can trust this guy or this lady.
1405
00:30:38,370 --> 00:30:40,920
She gets to decide
who will be the advisors,
1406
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,310
she gets to decide his schedule,
she gets to decide policy.
1407
00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:47,380
She is very, very important.
1408
00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:50,750
They are almost like
couple that runs the country.
1409
00:30:51,070 --> 00:30:58,160
I represent Israel all ever the world. My husband and I walk along rows of soldiers.
1410
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:03,380
I meet with world leaders and their wives. I bring a whole lot of respect to our country.
1411
00:31:03,380 --> 00:31:07,300
And it's not publicized, and our country is missing... missing out on it!
1412
00:31:08,190 --> 00:31:11,860
Sara Netanyahu
is much more than controversial.
1413
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:14,820
It's been proved in court...
1414
00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:18,040
that Sara Netanyahu abused workers,
1415
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,290
treated them in
the most humiliating way possible.
1416
00:31:24,610 --> 00:31:28,780
I began as the bodyguard of Bibi's children, Yair and Avner.
1417
00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:31,780
And also of Sara Netanyahu, the Prime Minister's wife.
1418
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,620
And then I was put in charge of the household.
1419
00:31:37,250 --> 00:31:43,960
Whenever they returned from visiting the White House, it was really hard for us.
1420
00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:49,300
They expected the same level of luxury.
1421
00:31:49,300 --> 00:31:54,180
All those servants, they wanted it here.
1422
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,440
They know how to "steal" things they can't have.
1423
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,070
The state wasn't willing to pay, so invoices had to be falsified.
1424
00:32:12,780 --> 00:32:16,830
She did whatever she wanted, and her budget was always approved.
1425
00:32:18,370 --> 00:32:24,000
She drinks a lot, and I figured out that's why her behavior was sometimes friendly, sometimes angry.
1426
00:32:25,670 --> 00:32:30,090
She'd shout, and then she would be kind.
1427
00:32:30,090 --> 00:32:32,130
That's the cycle, again and again.
1428
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,390
He knows that she drinks, he knows everything.
1429
00:32:40,060 --> 00:32:42,180
When Sara got in the car
1430
00:32:42,190 --> 00:32:46,690
after the drivers loaded her trunk with boxes of champagne
1431
00:32:47,650 --> 00:32:50,030
Sara would take a glass of champagne.
1432
00:32:50,030 --> 00:32:54,200
As I take a glass of coffee to go, she takes a glass of champagne!
1433
00:32:55,280 --> 00:33:01,950
Did you get in touch with Milchan? And ask for that favorite champagne of yours?
1434
00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:06,920
Why do you have to say it that way? "Your favorite," it's really cynical and gross.
1435
00:33:07,130 --> 00:33:08,670
It's really an unpleasant way to speak.
1436
00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:10,050
Because you're specifically asking for it.
1437
00:33:10,090 --> 00:33:13,380
I'm not asking for it specifically, and you're speaking disrespectfully.
1438
00:33:13,420 --> 00:33:15,380
Okay, did you ask for it?
1439
00:33:15,430 --> 00:33:16,220
Really.
1440
00:33:16,220 --> 00:33:16,760
Really. Did you ask?
1441
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,430
I have to say I'm really uncomfortable here. And if it continues I'll just leave.
1442
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:21,430
Okay, the question is who...
1443
00:33:21,430 --> 00:33:22,680
Or you can lock me up.
1444
00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:26,920
Sara Netanyahu,
she really feels that she is entitled
1445
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,080
to get all these things...
1446
00:33:29,210 --> 00:33:31,130
and she scares from nothing.
1447
00:33:31,250 --> 00:33:33,710
She's still doing it today!
1448
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,220
Just with different people.
1449
00:33:36,570 --> 00:33:37,860
So pay close attention.
1450
00:33:37,870 --> 00:33:44,200
From Sunday to Friday, you receive 20 bottles of champagne in one week.
1451
00:33:44,790 --> 00:33:45,750
I don't recall.
1452
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,790
You don't recall, meaning that there's a chance?
1453
00:33:48,790 --> 00:33:49,960
I don't remember.
1454
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,210
What do, you think? I stand there and count the bottles?
1455
00:33:54,340 --> 00:33:57,720
Maybe I count a couple of other things that concern our existence.
1456
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:58,760
What are the circumstances...
1457
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,060
Like how many rockets are pointing at us.
1458
00:34:02,270 --> 00:34:03,930
We work 18 hours a day.
1459
00:34:03,930 --> 00:34:09,060
She works with children, cancer patients, as a child psychologist.
1460
00:34:09,150 --> 00:34:12,480
We have no pleasures in life!
1461
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,190
Everything you're trying to prove here, I think it's wrong.
1462
00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:21,660
Did you give them the champagne? Or did the drivers go each time?
1463
00:34:21,830 --> 00:34:25,000
When I'd come to the Prime Minister's residence, I'd carry it in a cooler.
1464
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,120
I have to ask you, how did it make you feel?
1465
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,540
How did it make me feel?
1466
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:37,630
I felt like... let me tell you...
1467
00:34:37,670 --> 00:34:43,390
Bottles of champagne, that each time cost hundreds of dollars.
1468
00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:48,560
I felt that the Prime Minister's wife will torture him...
1469
00:34:51,810 --> 00:34:57,110
if she didn't have a little to drink.
1470
00:35:01,660 --> 00:35:05,120
I think Bibi is afraid of Sara.
1471
00:35:07,790 --> 00:35:11,920
I am extremely familiar with her screaming.
1472
00:35:12,210 --> 00:35:15,000
I never asked and I never demanded.
1473
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,670
Our investigation shows that you...
1474
00:35:16,670 --> 00:35:21,220
Your evidence is complete and utter bullshit. Bye!
1475
00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:26,930
At first I was shocked from the level of screaming.
1476
00:35:26,930 --> 00:35:31,940
And I told Bibi, "I don't recall working for your wife."
1477
00:35:32,810 --> 00:35:34,060
This is your response?
1478
00:35:34,270 --> 00:35:36,110
You're speaking nonsense.
1479
00:35:36,190 --> 00:35:37,320
Your response is that it's all bullshit?
1480
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,190
You're speaking nonsense.
1481
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:42,740
These are testimonies that people gave to the police, ma'am.
1482
00:35:42,740 --> 00:35:47,200
You interrogate people for hours and hours and hours.
1483
00:35:47,540 --> 00:35:49,750
How are you not ashamed of yourselves?
1484
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,130
The relationship between the Prime Minister and his wife
1485
00:36:03,140 --> 00:36:05,930
was not 100% understandable to me.
1486
00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:08,220
But I knew that he was afraid of her.
1487
00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:10,850
That he had to appease her.
1488
00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:14,190
She controls everything. She knows everything.
1489
00:36:14,190 --> 00:36:17,110
She knows where the Prime Minister is.
1490
00:36:17,110 --> 00:36:19,320
And if she doesn't know where he is
1491
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,700
she calls 5 or 6 officials to find out.
1492
00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:24,910
If it doesn't all line up, boy we're in trouble.
1493
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,770
30 years ago,
Netanyahu was involved in a sex scandal
1494
00:36:31,890 --> 00:36:37,650
that was never been heard of
in puritan Israel of those days.
1495
00:36:38,650 --> 00:36:42,990
In Israel, this scandal is called
the "hot tape" scandal.
1496
00:36:43,220 --> 00:36:46,590
And now we turn to a developing story that's stirring up the Likud political party.
1497
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,810
An anonymous source threatens to expose
1498
00:36:48,810 --> 00:36:52,790
Knesset member Benjamin Netanyahu's intimate relationship with another woman.
1499
00:36:52,790 --> 00:36:56,790
We know the name of the woman
that was supposed to be in the hot tape.
1500
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,500
Nobody ever saw the hot tape.
1501
00:37:01,630 --> 00:37:02,550
No-one.
1502
00:37:02,670 --> 00:37:05,420
But his response was panicky.
1503
00:37:05,570 --> 00:37:06,990
Good evening Knesset member Netanyahu.
1504
00:37:06,990 --> 00:37:08,530
Our first question is
1505
00:37:08,700 --> 00:37:11,790
have you engaged in intimate relations with another woman?
1506
00:37:12,750 --> 00:37:15,370
There was indeed such a thing. It ended a couple of months ago.
1507
00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:21,630
This is a private matter. I owe a personal debt to my wife, to my family.
1508
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,510
And to no one else, with all due respect.
1509
00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:26,130
How did your wife respond to the breaking news?
1510
00:37:26,260 --> 00:37:30,010
At 6 pm last night, an anonymous caller phoned the house...
1511
00:37:30,510 --> 00:37:33,060
I was out campaigning for the elections.
1512
00:37:34,690 --> 00:37:37,400
My wife picked up the phone and was threatened
1513
00:37:37,770 --> 00:37:44,030
that if I don't quit the race to lead the Likud party, they will release the evidence.
1514
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,860
This isn't about Benjamin Netanyahu.
1515
00:37:47,110 --> 00:37:49,570
It's about the fate of Israel's democracy.
1516
00:37:52,430 --> 00:37:56,140
It made Sara furious
that you tell all Israeli public
1517
00:37:56,270 --> 00:37:59,320
that you had
a romance with somebody else.
1518
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:01,730
Behind my back.
1519
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:10,970
I want to thank the one who walked and marched by my side
1520
00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:18,770
on this long and tumultuous road
1521
00:38:19,650 --> 00:38:22,570
and stayed with me, my beloved wife
1522
00:38:22,570 --> 00:38:25,530
Sara, who stands beside me.
1523
00:38:25,710 --> 00:38:29,430
That was the moment
that everything changed.
1524
00:38:31,050 --> 00:38:35,980
This shape the relationship
between Benjamin and Sara Netanyahu.
1525
00:38:59,770 --> 00:39:00,810
Listen...
1526
00:39:02,690 --> 00:39:05,610
I think the country of Israel would be better off
1527
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:09,240
if she didn't put her nose into his politics.
1528
00:39:11,450 --> 00:39:14,280
She's very unforgiving.
1529
00:39:15,490 --> 00:39:17,370
But I gotta tell you
1530
00:39:17,370 --> 00:39:19,620
I gotta be as honest with you as I can.
1531
00:39:19,620 --> 00:39:23,000
I don't think I'll continue the friendship with them.
1532
00:39:23,340 --> 00:39:29,800
Sara showed me a necklace once and told me, "Arnon bought it for me. It's Tiffany & Co."
1533
00:39:30,970 --> 00:39:33,050
And she hinted she'd be happy if I got her one too.
1534
00:39:34,050 --> 00:39:38,430
I told her, I have a casino license. I can't do anything that's illegal.
1535
00:39:39,180 --> 00:39:42,350
It doesn't look good.
1536
00:39:42,940 --> 00:39:45,980
You see, when you ask for a cigar or champagne
1537
00:39:46,070 --> 00:39:47,150
It's small things.
1538
00:39:47,150 --> 00:39:50,860
But jewelry... I said we need approval. It's small things.
1539
00:39:50,990 --> 00:39:52,700
Whose approval did you need?
1540
00:39:52,950 --> 00:39:58,660
I wanted the Prime Minister to tell me personally that it was okay.
1541
00:39:58,830 --> 00:40:00,330
Okay in what way?
1542
00:40:00,330 --> 00:40:03,960
In a legal sense.
1543
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:11,130
Bibi approved it was legal. "A friend can give a gift to a friend."
1544
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,600
So a friend can give...
1545
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,810
No, he laughed. He said, "just not a house."
1546
00:40:18,970 --> 00:40:21,430
And then you felt reassured?
1547
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:27,020
Well listen, if the Prime Minister says it's legal, I accepted it.
1548
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:35,110
Do you know that your wife received jewelry as a gift from Arnon Milchan?
1549
00:40:36,030 --> 00:40:37,580
No, I don't know.
1550
00:40:38,660 --> 00:40:40,750
But maybe she did, maybe not.
1551
00:40:42,210 --> 00:40:45,210
I don't know.
1552
00:40:46,210 --> 00:40:48,500
Did you not ask for a specific necklace?
1553
00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:49,300
No...
1554
00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:51,920
I advise you to tell the truth, it saves us a lot of embarrassment.
1555
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,470
I'm asking again, did you ask for any specific jewelry?
1556
00:40:53,470 --> 00:40:56,260
I did not ask for this ring. I'm asking again, did you ask for any specific jewelry?
1557
00:40:56,260 --> 00:40:57,970
And the necklace? No.
1558
00:40:59,350 --> 00:41:03,560
Sara asked for, and received from me personally...
1559
00:41:04,350 --> 00:41:06,480
I bought, purchased!
1560
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,530
A necklace and a ring.
1561
00:41:10,650 --> 00:41:14,610
Then Sara also asked for a gift for her wedding anniversary.
1562
00:41:17,780 --> 00:41:21,330
A bracelet that cost about $42,000.
1563
00:41:23,370 --> 00:41:30,130
Her husband said it was too "Romanian." Meaning that it was too flashy.
1564
00:41:31,590 --> 00:41:35,720
She wanted to exchange it, but I said with a diamond bracelet like this, it's impossible.
1565
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:39,600
But that answers the question of whether Bibi knew about it.
1566
00:41:40,010 --> 00:41:43,350
Bibi told her that with a bracelet like this...
1567
00:41:44,270 --> 00:41:45,980
encrusted with so many diamonds...
1568
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,400
that people would surely comment, or ask where it's from.
1569
00:41:50,650 --> 00:41:53,230
So Bibi said it's too flashy, exchange it.
1570
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:56,740
Which means he must've known.
1571
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,950
So I'm telling you that in September of this year...
1572
00:42:00,990 --> 00:42:02,240
September?
1573
00:42:03,660 --> 00:42:07,870
Your wife received jewelry from Arnon Milchan.
1574
00:42:08,170 --> 00:42:10,000
I have absolutely no idea.
1575
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,210
You have absolutely no idea?
1576
00:42:11,250 --> 00:42:12,460
I'm hearing about this for the first time.
1577
00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:13,380
You're hearing about this for the first time?
1578
00:42:13,460 --> 00:42:14,880
Unequivocally.
1579
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,070
He's a great actor.
1580
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:19,740
He knows how to look relaxed.
1581
00:42:19,860 --> 00:42:21,740
But he's not relaxed at all.
1582
00:42:21,870 --> 00:42:24,040
He's very, very stressed because of it.
1583
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,080
Any one of us would be stressful
if the police would come to us
1584
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,420
with such an allegation.
1585
00:42:29,540 --> 00:42:31,710
But he knows how to play the game,
1586
00:42:31,830 --> 00:42:35,050
and he knows that he's
being filmed all the time,
1587
00:42:35,170 --> 00:42:37,560
and he doesn't want to look bad.
1588
00:42:37,740 --> 00:42:41,280
Just to confirm we understood you correctly
1589
00:42:41,330 --> 00:42:44,990
is it possible your wife received this jewelry without you knowing?
1590
00:42:45,330 --> 00:42:50,000
I told you that I don't know if she did. And this is the first time I'm hearing of it.
1591
00:42:50,770 --> 00:42:56,070
I mean, he doesn't remember
the diamond that Sara received?
1592
00:42:56,190 --> 00:42:57,940
He was personally involved with it.
1593
00:42:58,070 --> 00:43:01,280
He doesn't know anything about
champagne bottles that she received.
1594
00:43:01,410 --> 00:43:05,200
Come on!
I mean, it was in his house, in his car.
1595
00:43:05,330 --> 00:43:09,080
He doesn't know about it.
It's ridiculous!
1596
00:43:09,210 --> 00:43:11,920
I mean this is $250,000.
1597
00:43:16,340 --> 00:43:18,460
If you want to lie, you know,
you need a great memory.
1598
00:43:18,590 --> 00:43:21,140
You need a great memory to lie.
He has a great memory.
1599
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,580
I've never met a person with such great memory,
1600
00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:27,790
a photographic memory for details.
1601
00:43:27,830 --> 00:43:35,840
Netanyahu remembers texts, people, dates, history.
1602
00:43:36,260 --> 00:43:38,010
I can't remember exactly...
1603
00:43:38,010 --> 00:43:43,140
"I don't remember," meaning maybe yes? Or maybe not?
1604
00:43:43,140 --> 00:43:45,430
No, I just remember the subject.
1605
00:43:45,850 --> 00:43:47,180
I can't remember every single thing!
1606
00:43:47,850 --> 00:43:49,060
Thousands of people!
1607
00:43:49,310 --> 00:43:54,650
You can't even imagine. I didn't know a human being could reach such a level.
1608
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,860
It might be, I just can't remember.
1609
00:43:58,190 --> 00:43:59,690
I don't remember.
1610
00:43:59,950 --> 00:44:01,070
I can't remember anything.
1611
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,530
Even if I spoke to him, and I don't remember that I did...
1612
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:08,200
Do you realize that you respond to 95% of our questions with "I don't remember"?
1613
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:08,790
Yes.
1614
00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:10,660
I really don't remember.
1615
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,870
I'm telling you the truth, I don't remember.
1616
00:44:13,170 --> 00:44:14,750
Fact is I don't remember!
1617
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,460
I simply can't remember.
1618
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,960
I don't remember, but there was something...
1619
00:44:20,650 --> 00:44:22,570
He lies left and right.
1620
00:44:22,700 --> 00:44:25,160
Bibi lies left and right.
1621
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,450
He uses... I mean, lying,
for him, is not something bad.
1622
00:44:28,580 --> 00:44:29,540
Seriously!
1623
00:44:29,660 --> 00:44:32,300
And it doesn't...
it doesn't give him...
1624
00:44:32,420 --> 00:44:35,530
He doesn't feel any...
problem with it.
1625
00:44:35,690 --> 00:44:37,230
It's a lie...
1626
00:44:37,230 --> 00:44:40,320
It is not a lie. I just forgot it.
1627
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,490
It's not a lie.
1628
00:44:43,490 --> 00:44:47,200
If I told you that the light is off, I'd be lying.
1629
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:52,500
You don't know the difference between a lie and a mistake?
1630
00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:57,040
I know, I know. Trust me I know a bit about lying.
1631
00:44:58,810 --> 00:45:01,940
The felony
that Netanyahu is indicted in
1632
00:45:02,070 --> 00:45:03,840
is called "breach of trust,"
1633
00:45:03,970 --> 00:45:06,740
which means that you put yourself
1634
00:45:06,860 --> 00:45:10,330
in a very high risk
of conflicts of interest.
1635
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,460
Arnon Milchan
has an access to the Prime Minister
1636
00:45:16,580 --> 00:45:18,890
where other people don't get this access.
1637
00:45:20,340 --> 00:45:22,420
Anytime he needs something...
1638
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:25,450
he can pick up the phone
and find Netanyahu.
1639
00:45:25,610 --> 00:45:27,740
Did you speak with Netanyahu about the law?
1640
00:45:27,740 --> 00:45:28,820
Of course not.
1641
00:45:28,870 --> 00:45:30,120
You didn't speak with him?
1642
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,370
Never.
1643
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:34,390
There is some law in Israel...
1644
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,560
that help Arnon Milchan
to pay less taxes.
1645
00:45:38,690 --> 00:45:41,610
This law has a deadline...
1646
00:45:41,730 --> 00:45:44,190
and Milchan wants this deadline
1647
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,110
to be... pushing far off.
1648
00:45:47,300 --> 00:45:51,850
Did you know about the ten-year tax break? Did you speak to him about it?
1649
00:45:51,850 --> 00:45:54,850
Milchan never spoke to me about business!
1650
00:45:54,850 --> 00:45:56,560
Get it through your head.
1651
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:01,150
And I never acted in favor of his business. I only had national interests in mind.
1652
00:46:01,150 --> 00:46:04,490
All these things you bring up... Not personal! National interest!
1653
00:46:05,380 --> 00:46:08,760
So, Netanyahu is speaking
with his Finance Minister,
1654
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,390
telling him, "Maybe we'll help Arnon.
1655
00:46:11,510 --> 00:46:15,810
"Maybe we'll do it with this law,
extend it for few more years."
1656
00:46:17,230 --> 00:46:20,060
Any law that relates to taxes
1657
00:46:20,190 --> 00:46:24,320
needs to go through Yair Lapid,
the Finance Minister.
1658
00:46:26,130 --> 00:46:28,180
Did Bibi speak to you about Milchan?
1659
00:46:28,180 --> 00:46:30,050
He asked, "Did Arnon bring it up?"
1660
00:46:30,050 --> 00:46:33,560
I said, "Yes. I don't think it's a good idea." He said, "I do think it's a good idea."
1661
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,350
Do you know if anyone else got this exemption?
1662
00:46:36,350 --> 00:46:37,480
No.
1663
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,560
Did anyone else approach you about extending the exemption?
1664
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,730
No. He was the only one.
1665
00:46:41,730 --> 00:46:43,900
If you ask me, it's a very strange subject
1666
00:46:43,900 --> 00:46:46,780
for the Prime Minister to approach the Finance Minister about.
1667
00:46:46,780 --> 00:46:47,280
Why?
1668
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,320
Because it's a marginal tax regulation applying to a select few.
1669
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:51,700
Put it this way...
1670
00:46:51,700 --> 00:46:56,410
it was the only tax regulation Netanyahu ever approached me about.
1671
00:46:56,790 --> 00:47:00,000
It's just incredible, you approached the Finance Minister
1672
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,880
unconnected to Milchan, but it was so urgent.
1673
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,090
And you told him, "Listen, it's a good law. It's a good amendment. You should do it."
1674
00:47:07,420 --> 00:47:11,180
You're saying you didn't. Really?
1675
00:47:11,220 --> 00:47:13,180
First of all...
1676
00:47:13,180 --> 00:47:22,230
it could be that Milchan raised something I already thought about and supported.
1677
00:47:22,270 --> 00:47:27,360
So you have two meetings with the Minister of Finance to say "help Milchan"?
1678
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,070
No. Not "help Milchan." Just "pass the law."
1679
00:47:31,070 --> 00:47:36,120
All of a sudden after Milchan visits you, you think you'll visit the Finance Minister?
1680
00:47:38,020 --> 00:47:41,850
He tried
to help Arnon Milchan in few other things.
1681
00:47:41,980 --> 00:47:45,230
Arnon Milchan helped Israel,
in some ways,
1682
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,570
to get all kinds of equipment
to our nuclear project,
1683
00:47:49,690 --> 00:47:52,660
to build nuclear bombs.
1684
00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:59,240
This was 40 or 50 years ago.
1685
00:47:59,370 --> 00:48:03,120
Many people thought
some of the things that he did
1686
00:48:03,250 --> 00:48:05,160
was against the American laws.
1687
00:48:06,130 --> 00:48:09,380
Years later, he decided to brag about it,
1688
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:11,260
and to tell it out loud.
1689
00:48:11,450 --> 00:48:14,410
Do you know how it feels to be a twenty-something year old
1690
00:48:14,410 --> 00:48:18,160
and the state lets him be James Bond?
1691
00:48:18,580 --> 00:48:21,790
Wow, that's action, very exciting!
1692
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,360
It made someone
in the American administration furious.
1693
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,440
Not only he did it,
but now he said it out loud.
1694
00:48:31,570 --> 00:48:35,740
So, they decided to cut his visa.
1695
00:48:35,860 --> 00:48:37,900
And all his life is in the US.
1696
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:43,390
What do you know about Arnon's visa problems?
1697
00:48:43,980 --> 00:48:49,110
He was very worried he wouldn't be able to enter the United States.
1698
00:48:49,730 --> 00:48:52,700
Of course he panicked.
1699
00:48:52,700 --> 00:48:58,120
And it's true, he reached out to Netanyahu.
1700
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,160
We never spoke about personal matters
1701
00:49:00,330 --> 00:49:01,540
except for one thing.
1702
00:49:01,710 --> 00:49:02,750
Except for one thing.
1703
00:49:02,910 --> 00:49:05,170
And that is the visa.
1704
00:49:05,170 --> 00:49:06,920
And I perceived it as a matter of national security.
1705
00:49:07,340 --> 00:49:09,710
That is the only time he talked to me about a personal matter.
1706
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:10,750
And it's not personal.
1707
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,260
It's a matter of national security.
1708
00:49:12,420 --> 00:49:13,630
In my opinion.
1709
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,870
Netanyahu speaks
with the American Ambassador in Israel,
1710
00:49:17,990 --> 00:49:20,450
he's calling the Secretary of State,
1711
00:49:20,580 --> 00:49:22,660
Mr John Kerry, a few times.
1712
00:49:22,790 --> 00:49:25,120
His people speak
with all kinds of people,
1713
00:49:25,250 --> 00:49:28,010
putting pressure
to take care of this thing
1714
00:49:28,140 --> 00:49:31,130
and get Arnon Milchan his visa back.
1715
00:49:31,250 --> 00:49:33,010
Ultimately, it happened.
1716
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,660
I deserved to get help.
1717
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,160
I can't just give and give and give.
1718
00:49:41,580 --> 00:49:43,290
Okay, we'll continue tomorrow.
1719
00:49:44,290 --> 00:49:47,670
By the way, can you drop the word "bribe"?
1720
00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:48,710
No.
1721
00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:52,170
If this gets out, I'm ruined.
1722
00:49:54,610 --> 00:49:58,490
When you want to ask a favour
from Secretary Kerry...
1723
00:49:58,610 --> 00:50:00,990
when you deal with him...
1724
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,660
in Iran, Palestinians, all the rest...
1725
00:50:04,790 --> 00:50:06,710
you want to ask for a favour,
1726
00:50:06,830 --> 00:50:10,330
this needs to be something very dramatic.
1727
00:50:10,460 --> 00:50:14,510
You don't want to waste
your political capital...
1728
00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:17,800
for Arnon Milchan visa!
1729
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,360
This is... unheard of.
1730
00:50:22,700 --> 00:50:25,120
I am telling you the truth.
1731
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,330
So everyone else is lying. You're the only one telling the truth?
1732
00:50:27,330 --> 00:50:28,830
Absolutely.
1733
00:50:28,830 --> 00:50:35,170
And what if I said you have more incentive to evade the truth?
1734
00:50:35,300 --> 00:50:38,300
I'm saying I'm telling the absolute truth.
1735
00:50:38,300 --> 00:50:43,180
If anyone says different, they're the ones lying. And I'd like to hear what they say.
1736
00:50:43,180 --> 00:50:48,850
Listen to me. The Prime Minister is the most principled and honest person in the world.
1737
00:50:48,850 --> 00:50:50,850
My husband is the strongest Prime Minister we've ever had.
1738
00:50:50,860 --> 00:50:53,110
He protects our country, saves our country.
1739
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,820
This country has never had it better.
1740
00:50:55,940 --> 00:50:59,360
He's an admired leader around the world.
1741
00:50:59,530 --> 00:51:04,990
In three days we'll be at the White House, where he'll be welcomed like a king.
1742
00:51:05,370 --> 00:51:10,290
All over the world, leaders and the general public admire him.
1743
00:51:10,460 --> 00:51:15,590
When he walks the streets of New York or Australia, people stand around and applaud.
1744
00:51:15,670 --> 00:51:19,380
He's simply an admired leader around the world, who does great things for the State of Israel.
1745
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,880
The polls didn't predict such a decisive victory.
1746
00:51:56,300 --> 00:52:00,880
Now Prime Minister Netanyahu can begin his fourth term with confidence.
1747
00:52:01,130 --> 00:52:03,890
And who's to know...
1748
00:52:03,890 --> 00:52:09,140
whether after four terms, he will ever leave office?
1749
00:52:10,580 --> 00:52:14,790
Bibi! Bibi! Bibi! Bibi!
1750
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:21,320
Against all odds, we achieved a tremendous victory for the Likud!
1751
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:33,000
You are all important. And you are all important to me.
1752
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:41,820
It came to the point
of what the French are saying,
1753
00:52:41,940 --> 00:52:44,910
"L'รtat, c'est moi."
"The country is me."
1754
00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:48,560
When people serve for too long...
1755
00:52:49,950 --> 00:52:52,330
...it gets into their head.
1756
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,540
And we saw the breaking point
1757
00:52:56,670 --> 00:52:59,800
because the way he won
the elections of 2015,
1758
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:01,880
which was single-handedly.
1759
00:53:02,010 --> 00:53:04,680
The polls was predicting a loss,
1760
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,340
but he won... big-time!
1761
00:53:07,470 --> 00:53:10,260
And it did something to the ego.
1762
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,730
Around 2015,
something changed.
1763
00:53:16,850 --> 00:53:22,400
It felt like he doesn't need to give
any explanation to anybody at all,
1764
00:53:22,530 --> 00:53:24,530
like... like a Caesar.
1765
00:53:24,650 --> 00:53:28,370
And we need to obey... the rules
1766
00:53:28,490 --> 00:53:32,870
of... of not... not of the kingdom,
of His Majesty.
1767
00:53:36,370 --> 00:53:39,580
At that time,
there were no police investigations.
1768
00:53:39,710 --> 00:53:43,420
There was no threat to his rule.
1769
00:53:43,550 --> 00:53:46,290
He was seen, in Israel,
1770
00:53:46,410 --> 00:53:50,220
and also by Obama or Putin...
1771
00:53:50,350 --> 00:53:51,740
as...
1772
00:53:52,910 --> 00:53:57,980
...the most powerful leader
that Israel has ever had.
1773
00:54:04,030 --> 00:54:08,860
I want to remind you
that I was the campaign manager.
1774
00:54:08,990 --> 00:54:11,910
You see that, on the stage,
I was standing with them, too.
1775
00:54:12,030 --> 00:54:13,540
It's me.
1776
00:54:14,740 --> 00:54:18,200
It's only three of us -
Bibi, Sara, and myself.
1777
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,260
It was a glamorous...
wow... night... wow.
1778
00:54:30,090 --> 00:54:32,660
Do you remember Nir Hefetz?
1779
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,310
Yes, of course. Who doesn't?
1780
00:54:36,310 --> 00:54:38,790
Who is Nir Hefetz?
1781
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,500
Did she really ask who that is?
1782
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,340
What can I tell her?
1783
00:54:46,550 --> 00:54:50,090
Nir Hefetz was with the Prime Minister for a really long time.
1784
00:54:50,090 --> 00:54:55,350
He was his media consultant for many years. He was in charge of the campaigns.
1785
00:54:56,060 --> 00:55:02,860
Nir Hefetz knew how to climb, how to advance his career.
1786
00:55:04,250 --> 00:55:08,550
I was the closest aid to Sara Netanyahu,
1787
00:55:08,670 --> 00:55:11,300
and one of the closest
to Benjamin Netanyahu.
1788
00:55:11,430 --> 00:55:15,270
And I was the personal spokesman
of the whole family.
1789
00:55:19,270 --> 00:55:22,690
Many, many people -
and especially leaders -
1790
00:55:22,810 --> 00:55:25,820
make the mistakes
after such a huge success,
1791
00:55:25,940 --> 00:55:28,280
when they start to believe...
1792
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,880
that they are untouchable,
that they are...
1793
00:55:32,110 --> 00:55:34,160
...magicians.
1794
00:55:35,450 --> 00:55:38,450
Benjamin Netanyahu started believing
1795
00:55:38,580 --> 00:55:41,160
what his wife has been
telling him for years.
1796
00:55:41,290 --> 00:55:42,830
"You're the one!
1797
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,710
"If you were not born in Israel,
if you were born in Michigan,
1798
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,230
"you would be the President of
the United States of America, for sure!"
1799
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,550
I think this night...
1800
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,010
was not only his biggest win,
1801
00:55:58,140 --> 00:56:02,190
it was also
the day that he started to deteriorate.
1802
00:56:02,310 --> 00:56:06,190
And it ended not as I expected.
1803
00:56:06,310 --> 00:56:10,990
You know,
life takes us to unexpected corners.
1804
00:56:22,770 --> 00:56:25,940
There are internal, family meetings
1805
00:56:25,980 --> 00:56:27,650
where they sit together with a few advisers.
1806
00:56:27,650 --> 00:56:29,360
You learn a lot.
1807
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:30,940
And you were exposed to these interactions?
1808
00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:33,530
I am telling you what I saw, and what I heard.
1809
00:56:33,530 --> 00:56:37,910
And after I testify, I think he'll also remember.
1810
00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:40,620
It's not testimony. It's lies that I am unaware of.
1811
00:56:40,620 --> 00:56:41,710
To me it sounds real.
1812
00:56:41,710 --> 00:56:43,420
Oh, it sounds real to you?
1813
00:56:43,420 --> 00:56:45,540
Nir Hefetz sounds real to you?
1814
00:56:45,540 --> 00:56:47,790
Guys, you are going to be very disappointed.
1815
00:56:48,380 --> 00:56:49,760
If this is your witness.
1816
00:56:50,380 --> 00:56:51,510
And this is your credibility.
1817
00:56:52,010 --> 00:56:54,590
He is just one of the witnesses. Nir Hefetz's testimony about you...
1818
00:56:54,590 --> 00:56:56,850
He is one of the witnesses. That's right.
1819
00:56:56,850 --> 00:57:00,470
And. this witness won't collapse, he already has.
1820
00:57:02,580 --> 00:57:08,000
Nir Hefetz
became a very important witness,
1821
00:57:08,130 --> 00:57:10,630
because he is one of the messengers
1822
00:57:10,750 --> 00:57:12,760
between the tycoon Shaul Elovitch
1823
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,720
and the Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu.
1824
00:57:16,550 --> 00:57:21,190
There is a big difference between
Shaul Elovitch and Arnon Milchan.
1825
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,770
Shaul Elovitch
doesn't like the limelight at all.
1826
00:57:26,900 --> 00:57:28,770
He never gave interviews.
1827
00:57:28,900 --> 00:57:32,360
He's very concentrating in doing money.
1828
00:57:33,590 --> 00:57:42,180
I'm asking that the interrogation be short, and no shouting, because I'm feeling sick.
1829
00:57:43,100 --> 00:57:45,600
But the interrogation won't be easy.
1830
00:57:45,730 --> 00:57:47,980
I don't know what "easy" or "difficult" mean here.
1831
00:57:47,980 --> 00:57:52,610
Meaning we won't be holding anything back.
1832
00:57:53,150 --> 00:57:56,910
Tell us about your relationship with Shaul Elovitch.
1833
00:57:56,910 --> 00:58:00,120
I'd call it a friendly acquaintance.
1834
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,750
The media describes it as a "close friendship," which is just not true.
1835
00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:07,500
It's basically an acquaintance.
1836
00:58:08,380 --> 00:58:10,920
He (Bibi) told me, "Keep Shaul safe."
1837
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,670
"Shaul is an important friend."
1838
00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:16,430
The message was loud and clear. "Keep Shaul safe."
1839
00:58:17,450 --> 00:58:19,360
Shaul Elovitch made his fortune
1840
00:58:19,490 --> 00:58:22,830
from importing Nokia cellphones.
1841
00:58:22,950 --> 00:58:28,710
And in a certain point of time,
he took very big loans from the banks
1842
00:58:28,830 --> 00:58:32,130
in order to finance his...
1843
00:58:32,250 --> 00:58:35,710
upgrading to become such a tycoon.
1844
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,260
At the end of 2016,
1845
00:58:39,380 --> 00:58:42,180
Elovitch was in a state of panic.
1846
00:58:42,300 --> 00:58:45,680
He had a deadline, paying back loans
1847
00:58:45,810 --> 00:58:48,230
of billions of dollars to the banks.
1848
00:58:49,290 --> 00:58:51,840
I never in my life discussed this with either Bibi or Sara.
1849
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:56,260
I never spoke with Sara, and I never complained to Bibi.
1850
00:58:56,550 --> 00:59:01,800
I thought I'd need to call Shaul an ambulance to the ER.
1851
00:59:02,100 --> 00:59:06,560
It looked like all the stress was giving him a heart attack.
1852
00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:12,040
And from Netanyahu,
Elovitch needs a signature
1853
00:59:12,170 --> 00:59:15,880
that will allow him to get
a very quick cash,
1854
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:20,680
something around $200 million.
1855
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:26,130
Bibi understood that
Elovitch needed the signature very badly.
1856
00:59:26,290 --> 00:59:34,020
He asked that I take the document and personally hand it to Netanyahu.
1857
00:59:34,020 --> 00:59:36,570
Nir Hefetz goes to Netanyahu
and give it to him.
1858
00:59:36,690 --> 00:59:38,150
Netanyahu reads it.
1859
00:59:38,340 --> 00:59:44,720
Do you remember that Nir Hefetz brought Elovitch's document, saying it was urgent?
1860
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,560
I don't remember anything like that. Absolutely not.
1861
00:59:50,060 --> 00:59:57,860
(Recording of Nir Hefetz): "I spoke to Netanyahu about it, and he's a sharp man, you don't have to tell him twice."
1862
00:59:57,900 --> 01:00:01,150
(Mouthing) Lies!! Lies!
1863
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:03,870
That's what he tells you?
1864
01:00:03,950 --> 01:00:11,830
Netanyahu read through the whole document right in front of me.
1865
01:00:11,830 --> 01:00:14,790
(Recording of Nir Hefetz) "He read page by page, right in front of me."
1866
01:00:14,790 --> 01:00:16,460
(Mouthing) Lies!
1867
01:00:16,500 --> 01:00:21,340
(Recording of Nir Hefetz) "Netanyahu read through the whole document right in front of me."
1868
01:00:21,380 --> 01:00:24,680
What a liar.
1869
01:00:25,970 --> 01:00:27,350
Listen until the end please.
1870
01:00:27,350 --> 01:00:32,270
He picked up the phone, and asked his secretary to arrange a meeting with Shaul Elovitch.
1871
01:00:32,660 --> 01:00:36,000
Now, the question
is what Netanyahu wants
1872
01:00:36,130 --> 01:00:39,300
in return for this signature.
1873
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:47,050
It turns out
that Shaul Elovitch is also the owner
1874
01:00:47,180 --> 01:00:49,760
of a small website called Walla,
1875
01:00:49,890 --> 01:00:53,560
a website with a news department.
1876
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,300
Walla is Israel's oldest news website.
1877
01:01:05,340 --> 01:01:07,260
It grew to be a very popular website.
1878
01:01:07,430 --> 01:01:10,390
At times, the most popular in Israel.
1879
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,640
Its audience is young.
1880
01:01:14,020 --> 01:01:21,530
And that's one of the reasons the Netanyahu family wanted its cooperation.
1881
01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:26,160
The Walla website, which reaches hundreds of thousands of people a day
1882
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,370
is of utmost importance.
1883
01:01:28,410 --> 01:01:31,330
You said tens of thousands?
1884
01:01:31,410 --> 01:01:36,210
Hundreds of thousands. Hundreds of thousands of voters a day.
1885
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:41,840
Benjamin Netanyahu values Walla, and wants positive media coverage from them.
1886
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,680
And that is where this problematic relationship starts.
1887
01:01:46,010 --> 01:01:49,550
Because Shaul Elovitch is certain that if he gives the Netanyahus
1888
01:01:50,010 --> 01:01:53,730
control over his newspaper, the website Walla
1889
01:01:54,060 --> 01:01:56,520
then he will get his signature.
1890
01:01:57,980 --> 01:01:59,980
Elovitch needs cash.
1891
01:02:00,820 --> 01:02:03,400
$250 million.
1892
01:02:06,670 --> 01:02:09,390
So, they had a secret meeting,
1893
01:02:09,510 --> 01:02:13,770
and in the end,
Netanyahu received full control of Walla,
1894
01:02:13,890 --> 01:02:16,400
and Shaul Elovitch got the signature.
1895
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,540
Shaul Elovitch is a businessman whose fate is in your hands
1896
01:02:21,550 --> 01:02:24,710
with your signature on certain documents.
1897
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:28,760
The decisions I make in regards to him are totally clean.
1898
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,180
There's no doubt.
1899
01:02:31,180 --> 01:02:36,640
There's never any connection between press coverage and my official decisions.
1900
01:02:36,730 --> 01:02:39,230
I don't remember if Walla even came up.
1901
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:40,690
I did not consider it important
1902
01:02:40,940 --> 01:02:42,860
because there is no Quid Pro Quo!
1903
01:02:43,650 --> 01:02:48,910
The intervention in Walla's content was executed through every possible platform.
1904
01:02:49,370 --> 01:02:53,080
Phone calls, e-mails, text messages, WhatsApps
1905
01:02:53,830 --> 01:02:56,500
at every hour of the day.
1906
01:02:56,750 --> 01:02:59,370
Each time there was a request
1907
01:02:59,420 --> 01:03:09,880
either to change a title, publish a story, or do a live stream, or an interview
1908
01:03:10,550 --> 01:03:15,350
it all came from Bibi personally. And I would pass it to Shaul.
1909
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,480
(Recording of Nir Hefetz) "Netanyahu never told me 'Speak with Walla."
1910
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:24,730
(Recording of Nir Hefetz) "It was always 'Speak with Shau so they will stop broadcasting leftist propaganda.'"
1911
01:03:24,980 --> 01:03:26,820
Why did you get angry about their coverage?
1912
01:03:26,820 --> 01:03:28,530
I will tell you exactly. Why did you get angry about their coverage?
1913
01:03:28,530 --> 01:03:30,110
You maybe don't understand this
1914
01:03:30,110 --> 01:03:31,700
because you don't understand my viewpoint.
1915
01:03:31,910 --> 01:03:36,620
I consider the structure of the Israeli media
1916
01:03:36,660 --> 01:03:39,790
to be one of the biggest weaknesses in our democracy.
1917
01:03:39,790 --> 01:03:42,580
And this website is "Walla Hamas"!
1918
01:03:42,590 --> 01:03:44,500
That is its nickname, that's what it's called in the Likud party.
1919
01:03:44,500 --> 01:03:45,920
"Walla Hamas."
1920
01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:49,010
Netanyahu wanted positive coverage
1921
01:03:49,010 --> 01:03:52,140
so that anyone who visits Walla frequently
1922
01:03:52,390 --> 01:03:56,890
would think he's the King David of Israel.
1923
01:03:56,890 --> 01:03:59,350
That he's the wonderful leader leading Israel.
1924
01:03:59,940 --> 01:04:03,400
He wanted his wife to be pleased, that she'd look good in photographs.
1925
01:04:04,070 --> 01:04:07,480
How many photos were there? How were the photos? Did they have the right angle?
1926
01:04:09,780 --> 01:04:13,410
And he wanted his son to come off as a caring person with strong values
1927
01:04:13,410 --> 01:04:15,700
who does the right thing.
1928
01:04:17,410 --> 01:04:21,330
We felt like a restaurant serving only one person.
1929
01:04:21,710 --> 01:04:27,920
He arrives, and he wants that meat, and this salad, and gets whatever he wants.
1930
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:29,880
So we used code words like
1931
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:35,010
"Parsley" was the request for more photos.
1932
01:04:35,050 --> 01:04:38,890
"Add lots of 'parsley' to the dish coming out!"
1933
01:04:41,140 --> 01:04:45,150
"Less paprika" meant not too spicy, less critical.
1934
01:04:46,230 --> 01:04:51,070
But the restaurant doesn't serve everyone.
1935
01:04:51,150 --> 01:04:56,490
Only one family was let in and allowed to order whatever they want.
1936
01:04:57,620 --> 01:05:00,580
You managed to make the Elovitches care about you?
1937
01:05:00,580 --> 01:05:02,580
Exactly! Thank God!
1938
01:05:02,580 --> 01:05:06,460
Thank God there were right wing people who supported us!
1939
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:11,050
Isn't it enough that we're lying down, bleeding, wounded, surrounded by knives?
1940
01:05:11,050 --> 01:05:14,380
And you want us to be run over too? No! No!
1941
01:05:15,510 --> 01:05:20,520
I just want a little positive, objective and balanced press. That's all.
1942
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:25,400
In the great ocean, in the tsunami that slaughters us
1943
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:30,570
with the firing squads who shoot, shoot, shoot, and assassinate my character.
1944
01:05:30,610 --> 01:05:33,030
People will never know about all the good that I do!
1945
01:05:33,070 --> 01:05:35,740
They will never know the truth, only the bad.
1946
01:05:35,740 --> 01:05:39,280
"She said that, she yelled this!" They're slaughtering me.
1947
01:05:53,220 --> 01:05:59,140
You investigate me because the Israeli police has become the Stasi secret police
1948
01:05:59,260 --> 01:06:02,680
wanting to overthrow the government.
1949
01:06:03,230 --> 01:06:04,980
You're trying to drive my parents crazy.
1950
01:06:04,980 --> 01:06:08,150
You know that a child is the most sensitive issue for every parent.
1951
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,610
A police force of mafiosos.
1952
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,200
Treating us like a crime family, disgusting.
1953
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,280
We're the Prime Minister's family. Nothing like it in the world.
1954
01:06:20,430 --> 01:06:22,640
Yair Netanyahu, his son,
1955
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,970
became very important in this case.
1956
01:06:25,100 --> 01:06:27,440
Both of them, Yair and Sara,
1957
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:31,070
present a very brutal approach...
1958
01:06:31,190 --> 01:06:33,150
to politics.
1959
01:06:33,270 --> 01:06:34,980
A lot of power.
1960
01:06:35,110 --> 01:06:38,590
Never surrender, never compromise.
1961
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,180
Excuse me, but you're full of shit.
1962
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,430
How are you not ashamed?
1963
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,810
This is what you do for?
1964
01:06:46,850 --> 01:06:48,650
This is what the Israeli police is doing?
1965
01:06:48,690 --> 01:06:52,690
When there are a 100,000 illegal Arab homes. It's just unbelievable!
1966
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,660
The obsession of Yair
with the media
1967
01:06:56,790 --> 01:06:59,180
is similar a little bit to his father.
1968
01:06:59,300 --> 01:07:03,180
The Israeli media
is a completely North Korean-style
1969
01:07:03,300 --> 01:07:05,770
socialist, communist propaganda.
1970
01:07:05,890 --> 01:07:10,480
I was blocked several times
from Facebook for "hate speech."
1971
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,560
There are many examples
to the influence of Yair over Bibi.
1972
01:07:13,690 --> 01:07:15,320
You can see it.
1973
01:07:15,510 --> 01:07:18,550
Everywhere! The Internet, the television, the radio, everything!
1974
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,970
Everything is leftist! Left, left, left!
1975
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,530
That's what the Israeli media is doing -
1976
01:07:23,660 --> 01:07:26,540
pretending to be objective
but actually echoing the most
1977
01:07:26,660 --> 01:07:30,580
radical... Marxist... agenda.
1978
01:07:30,980 --> 01:07:32,900
Yair...
1979
01:07:32,900 --> 01:07:35,690
is ultra right wing.
1980
01:07:35,820 --> 01:07:40,530
I don't even think his father is as right leaning,
1981
01:07:40,530 --> 01:07:45,240
but Yair, he's a dictatorial right.
1982
01:07:45,850 --> 01:07:50,320
The common theme between
the left in Israel, America, and Europe
1983
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:54,970
is pushing forward illegal immigration
and illegal immigrants,
1984
01:07:55,100 --> 01:07:59,900
because they want to change
the identity of the country,
1985
01:08:00,030 --> 01:08:02,910
and make national identity obsolete.
1986
01:08:03,390 --> 01:08:11,980
From the moment he wakes up, and all night long, the guy's on the Internet.
1987
01:08:11,980 --> 01:08:15,980
He's a news junkie 24/7. He doesn't work.
1988
01:08:15,980 --> 01:08:21,950
He believes that his father is too weak.
1989
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:26,370
Doesn't perform under pressure.
1990
01:08:26,950 --> 01:08:28,870
Isn't aggressive enough.
1991
01:08:28,870 --> 01:08:32,790
He even says that he's dedicating the next few years
1992
01:08:33,290 --> 01:08:36,880
to "make sure my father doesn't mess up."
1993
01:08:37,730 --> 01:08:39,610
Bibi told me one day, I remember,
1994
01:08:39,730 --> 01:08:42,200
that Yair can replace him.
1995
01:08:44,410 --> 01:08:45,950
I did this with my eyes.
1996
01:08:46,070 --> 01:08:47,980
I didn't say a word, I just...
1997
01:08:48,100 --> 01:08:50,450
My eyebrows went up.
1998
01:08:50,580 --> 01:08:53,500
"Yair can replace you?
First of all..."
1999
01:08:53,630 --> 01:08:55,790
"..you can't appoint your son.
2000
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,250
"Why can he be considered?"
2001
01:08:58,380 --> 01:09:00,170
He said, "Well, he has the capability."
2002
01:09:00,300 --> 01:09:02,300
He really thinks that it's like...
2003
01:09:02,430 --> 01:09:03,930
a kingdom.
2004
01:09:11,620 --> 01:09:13,710
You're only interested in hurting my father.
2005
01:09:13,750 --> 01:09:14,920
That's not true.
2006
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:19,460
Inaugurate some leftist who'll go back to '67 borders. That's your goal with this investigation.
2007
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,920
That's not true, it's the same as any other investigation.
2008
01:09:23,300 --> 01:09:24,260
Witch hunt!
2009
01:09:24,300 --> 01:09:25,680
Blood bath!
2010
01:09:26,850 --> 01:09:29,100
Stasi! Gestapo!
2011
01:09:29,140 --> 01:09:31,220
That's all I have to say.
2012
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:33,430
Police state.
2013
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:34,850
Let's begin.
2014
01:09:35,190 --> 01:09:38,770
Did you get involved in Walla's content?
2015
01:09:40,020 --> 01:09:42,070
How would I intervene in content?
2016
01:09:42,110 --> 01:09:43,860
Again, you're answering my question with a question.
2017
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:48,200
I'm asking you, did you intervene in Walla's content?
2018
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:54,830
No, but if they published lies and slander, I wanted to... I tried to fix it.
2019
01:09:54,830 --> 01:09:59,170
Is it possible that your son Yair instructed Nir Hefetz?
2020
01:09:59,210 --> 01:10:06,010
That my son Yair instructed Nir Hefetz? Absolutely not. Impossible.
2021
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:12,010
That he'd instruct him to do anything in relation to Elovitch? Have you lost your minds?
2022
01:10:12,020 --> 01:10:14,850
I thought that because the owners are conservatives
2023
01:10:15,060 --> 01:10:18,440
that maybe there's a greater chance that they'd have a listening ear.
2024
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:22,480
And make the press more balanced and fair.
2025
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:30,280
Were you involved in approving the hiring of different editors?
2026
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:35,460
They had a garbage leftist editor and replaced him with a bigger garbage leftist editor.
2027
01:10:36,620 --> 01:10:43,210
When Ilan Yeshua, the General Manager of Walla, fired me as the editor, he couldn't explain why.
2028
01:10:43,210 --> 01:10:53,640
He told me, "Look, I don't think you're a good manager. Better you're not the senior editor."
2029
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,980
Of course, later, when I saw the correspondence...
2030
01:10:58,440 --> 01:10:59,690
I understood.
2031
01:11:03,980 --> 01:11:07,280
I understood they demanded to fire me
2032
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:14,660
along with anyone else who might block the biased content.
2033
01:11:24,670 --> 01:11:26,840
Hello. Good morning.
2034
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:27,880
Good morning Nir.
2035
01:11:27,930 --> 01:11:29,550
Nir, do you recognize this guy?
2036
01:11:29,590 --> 01:11:31,470
Yes, it's Shaul Elovitch.
2037
01:11:31,470 --> 01:11:33,010
Shaul, do you recognize him?
2038
01:11:33,060 --> 01:11:34,810
Yes, Nir Hefetz.
2039
01:11:35,490 --> 01:11:40,790
This is a very
conventional procedure to confront people.
2040
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,000
You have a witness who is saying A,
2041
01:11:44,130 --> 01:11:46,250
and the other guy is saying B,
2042
01:11:46,380 --> 01:11:49,300
and all of the sudden,
one of them understands
2043
01:11:49,420 --> 01:11:52,430
that the other one spoke against him.
2044
01:11:52,550 --> 01:11:55,480
Maybe he will sit in jail
because of this guy.
2045
01:11:55,660 --> 01:12:01,460
Shaul comes up with this "solution."
2046
01:12:01,790 --> 01:12:02,670
Stop lying!
2047
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:07,170
That we need to get rid of our phones.
2048
01:12:07,460 --> 01:12:08,880
He's lying!
2049
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:10,170
If you yell at me...
2050
01:12:10,220 --> 01:12:11,880
I won't yell at you.
2051
01:12:11,930 --> 01:12:16,760
Shaul, at the end of that meeting did you change your phones?
2052
01:12:16,890 --> 01:12:19,020
Did you change your phones?
2053
01:12:19,060 --> 01:12:20,180
Answer the question, Shaul!
2054
01:12:20,230 --> 01:12:21,270
I'm answering you!
2055
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:26,190
My phone was broken from the beginning. The screen was always black.
2056
01:12:26,210 --> 01:12:28,620
It's a crime to destroy your phone
2057
01:12:28,750 --> 01:12:32,050
when you know
that it might contain evidence.
2058
01:12:32,170 --> 01:12:34,390
Elovitch's phones carried nothing.
2059
01:12:34,510 --> 01:12:37,140
They destroyed them,
and they erased everything.
2060
01:12:37,620 --> 01:12:42,960
My dog, Lucky... we have a fish pond and he fell into it.
2061
01:12:43,460 --> 01:12:48,500
I ran to the dog and my phone fell into the fish pond.
2062
01:12:48,510 --> 01:12:49,670
And Lucky didn't catch it?
2063
01:12:49,670 --> 01:12:52,260
No, Lucky didn't catch it. The phone flew into the pond.
2064
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,360
But then, Ilan Yeshua,
2065
01:12:55,490 --> 01:12:57,450
General Manager of Walla,
2066
01:12:57,570 --> 01:13:00,540
goes to the police with his cellphone,
2067
01:13:00,660 --> 01:13:03,120
gives all the text messages...
2068
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:08,760
..all the recordings
that Ilan Yeshua did with them.
2069
01:13:10,630 --> 01:13:14,260
Shaul Elovitch and Mr Netanyahu,
they knew nothing about it.
2070
01:13:14,380 --> 01:13:16,050
They were caught by surprise.
2071
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:21,040
You write, "It's so frustrating that 'The Big Guy' goes out of his way to help us
2072
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:26,250
and we can't reward him because of a bunch of losers."
2073
01:13:28,170 --> 01:13:29,840
I'm not talking about that "Big Guy."
2074
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,300
You write, "The Big Guy is going out of his way to help us
2075
01:13:33,970 --> 01:13:37,720
and we can't reward him because of a bunch of losers."
2076
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,850
"The Big Guy pleasantly surprises me every day with the most important things."
2077
01:13:41,890 --> 01:13:45,190
"We must find a way to reward him."
2078
01:13:45,190 --> 01:13:48,650
What do you need to reward the Prime Minister for?
2079
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:56,410
He says so himself! "We need to reward Netanyahu for everything he does for us."
2080
01:13:56,410 --> 01:13:59,700
"And how can we do that? Walla!"
2081
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,830
It's a total lie!
2082
01:14:03,100 --> 01:14:05,310
The police sometimes attacked him
2083
01:14:05,430 --> 01:14:09,940
with all kinds of things,
and he's, like, banging on the table.
2084
01:14:10,060 --> 01:14:15,320
"To what kind of low level
you will get to try to catch me?!"
2085
01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:18,110
I'm sure he has a real fear that
in the end,
2086
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,280
he will send to jail.
2087
01:14:20,410 --> 01:14:22,630
And this is very scary,
2088
01:14:22,750 --> 01:14:26,920
to his legacy,
to his freedom, to everything.
2089
01:14:27,150 --> 01:14:27,980
Let him stand here
2090
01:14:28,310 --> 01:14:29,980
and tell me the lies he's telling you.
2091
01:14:29,980 --> 01:14:30,940
Are you up for that?
2092
01:14:30,940 --> 01:14:32,980
Me? I am ready for it. Eager!
2093
01:14:33,150 --> 01:14:34,150
I don't know if attorneys would agree...
2094
01:14:34,150 --> 01:14:35,440
I don't know if my attorneys would agree... Nir Hefetz too?
2095
01:14:35,490 --> 01:14:38,410
Both of them! What, do you think I'm afraid of them? Those two liars?!
2096
01:14:38,530 --> 01:14:40,910
Shameless liars!
2097
01:14:40,910 --> 01:14:43,490
Without shame! Saying things that didn't happen!
2098
01:14:43,500 --> 01:14:49,040
That I "instructed them." And I'm hearing they've lined up their stories!
2099
01:14:49,500 --> 01:14:51,000
Both saying the same things?
2100
01:14:51,130 --> 01:14:52,290
He's lying!
2101
01:14:52,380 --> 01:14:53,840
All they say about these things!
2102
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:57,720
What is this? And you take this seriously?
2103
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,110
Today I informed the Prime Minister's counsels
2104
01:15:19,110 --> 01:15:20,950
and Mr. Benjamin Netanyahu
2105
01:15:20,950 --> 01:15:22,870
of my decision to take him to trial
2106
01:15:22,870 --> 01:15:25,080
with an indictment including three charges.
2107
01:15:25,830 --> 01:15:28,330
A day when the Attorney-General
2108
01:15:28,330 --> 01:15:31,500
decides to indict a serving Prime Minister
2109
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,710
with charges of corruption of power
2110
01:15:34,710 --> 01:15:38,130
is a hard and sad day for the Israeli public.
2111
01:15:38,130 --> 01:15:40,130
And for me personally.
2112
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,700
When they published
the criminal charges against him,
2113
01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:48,370
I called him up and I said,
"Bibi, what's gonna happen?
2114
01:15:48,500 --> 01:15:50,120
"This is serious business.
2115
01:15:50,250 --> 01:15:53,420
"They would not bring these up
without good evidence."
2116
01:15:53,540 --> 01:15:57,210
I said to him,
"Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu,
2117
01:15:57,340 --> 01:15:59,420
"you're in trouble.
2118
01:15:59,550 --> 01:16:01,650
"And, uh...
2119
01:16:03,180 --> 01:16:06,640
"..it could end up with jail."
2120
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,270
And he gave his usual story,
"It's terrible.
2121
01:16:09,390 --> 01:16:12,560
"There's no democracy in the world
that would do this."
2122
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:19,670
This evening, we are witnessing an attempted coup against the Prime Minister.
2123
01:16:19,670 --> 01:16:24,720
Based on false claims and a series of grueling and systematic interrogations.
2124
01:16:26,100 --> 01:16:30,270
The interrogators didn't pressure witnesses to tell the truth
2125
01:16:30,390 --> 01:16:35,110
but rather extorted them to lie.
2126
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:39,110
I think anyone who hears me right now should be absolutely horrified.
2127
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:43,240
In what democracy, in what lawful country do such things happen?
2128
01:16:43,660 --> 01:16:47,700
There's a law for everyone else, and there's a law for Netanyahu.
2129
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,810
Benjamin Netanyahu
was before a judge a short time ago,
2130
01:16:53,930 --> 01:16:56,440
saying he's not guilty of bribery, fraud,
2131
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,400
and breach-of-trust charges.
2132
01:17:00,730 --> 01:17:03,400
There was, like, a precedence -
2133
01:17:03,530 --> 01:17:08,160
no prime minister will serve when,
at the same time,
2134
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,450
he has a criminal case going on
2135
01:17:11,580 --> 01:17:15,790
just 5km
from his Prime Minister office.
2136
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,380
It's absurd!
2137
01:17:18,500 --> 01:17:21,510
You're supposed to resign.
Everybody did it.
2138
01:17:21,630 --> 01:17:23,630
He is the only one who didn't.
2139
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,780
I won't let the lies win.
2140
01:17:27,950 --> 01:17:31,250
I'll continue to lawfully lead the country.
2141
01:17:32,410 --> 01:17:37,750
Lead with dedication and duty.
2142
01:17:38,670 --> 01:17:42,010
Out of care for our security and future.
2143
01:17:45,950 --> 01:17:48,570
Unnecessary. Unnecessary.
2144
01:17:48,700 --> 01:17:50,950
It was a result of arrogance.
Arrogance.
2145
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,250
He was challenging the system.
2146
01:17:53,370 --> 01:17:56,670
He said, "No, I'm above, I'm beyond,
2147
01:17:56,790 --> 01:17:58,510
"no-one can touch me.
2148
01:17:58,630 --> 01:18:01,500
"You dare not do it.
And if you do it, this is manipulation."
2149
01:18:01,990 --> 01:18:04,320
Many times my jaw dropped
2150
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,530
when I was reading the investigation materials...
2151
01:18:06,530 --> 01:18:08,410
Is Netanyahu our patriot?
2152
01:18:08,410 --> 01:18:10,330
Or the patriot of himself and his family?
2153
01:18:10,330 --> 01:18:13,870
Senior Likud members, some close to Netanyahu...
2154
01:18:13,870 --> 01:18:16,710
say they estimate this is the end of an era.
2155
01:18:17,980 --> 01:18:20,020
After the indictment,
2156
01:18:20,150 --> 01:18:22,820
the centre-left parties in Israel,
2157
01:18:22,940 --> 01:18:24,900
they all decided to ban him.
2158
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,870
It made him more right-wing
in his position,
2159
01:18:29,990 --> 01:18:35,080
and it made him dependent
on the extreme right in Israel.
2160
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,150
We have an opportunity we can't miss.
2161
01:18:38,810 --> 01:18:41,570
To form a full-on right-wing government.
2162
01:18:42,030 --> 01:18:44,780
We can achieve our dream government!
2163
01:18:46,010 --> 01:18:48,380
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu,
2164
01:18:48,510 --> 01:18:52,890
he's nurtured the extreme right
to boost coalition numbers.
2165
01:18:53,010 --> 01:18:56,030
Netanyahu needs the far right's backing
2166
01:18:56,150 --> 01:19:00,140
as he tries to swerve corruption charges,
which he denies.
2167
01:19:00,270 --> 01:19:03,480
He has officially formed the
country's most-far-right-ever government.
2168
01:19:03,610 --> 01:19:05,780
With some of the most fringe,
2169
01:19:05,900 --> 01:19:08,780
vile figures in all of Israeli politics.
2170
01:19:08,900 --> 01:19:11,070
- Itamar Ben-Gvir.- Bezalel Smotrich.
2171
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,410
Their opponents call them "pyromaniacs,"
2172
01:19:13,530 --> 01:19:16,200
as they portray themselves as patriots.
2173
01:19:17,540 --> 01:19:21,140
Without Netanyahu,
the fascist extreme right
2174
01:19:21,260 --> 01:19:27,050
were considered not legitimate players
within the Israeli political system.
2175
01:19:27,170 --> 01:19:30,430
They were considered very extreme,
2176
01:19:30,550 --> 01:19:33,930
and nobody wanted to touch them
or deal with them.
2177
01:19:34,620 --> 01:19:36,080
Thank you, Chairman.
2178
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,710
My fellow Members of Knesset
2179
01:19:40,460 --> 01:19:43,170
I want to stand here and say unequivocally
2180
01:19:43,420 --> 01:19:46,880
there is no such thing as the Palestinian people, period.
2181
01:19:47,670 --> 01:19:49,680
There is none. There was none.
2182
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:50,680
Period.
2183
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,830
You just have to listen to Smotrich
and to Ben-Gvir.
2184
01:19:57,950 --> 01:20:01,750
Smotrich is a Jewish terrorist.
2185
01:20:02,020 --> 01:20:07,320
You're actually the one who arrested him in August 2005.
2186
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:12,200
You found bottles of burnt fuel, right?
2187
01:20:12,700 --> 01:20:15,330
There were a whole lot of flammables in that house.
2188
01:20:15,330 --> 01:20:19,330
Later we also found boxes and boxes of road spikes
2189
01:20:19,330 --> 01:20:21,750
that they were planning on throwing on the roads.
2190
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,570
He had all the instruments
2191
01:20:26,690 --> 01:20:31,080
in order to use it for a terror action,
2192
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,490
but he kept silence,
2193
01:20:33,610 --> 01:20:36,990
and because we do not
interrogate Jewish terrorists
2194
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,410
the way we interrogate
Palestinian terrorists,
2195
01:20:40,540 --> 01:20:42,000
he did not confess.
2196
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,790
And this is why he was not in jail.
2197
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,050
When it comes to Ben-Gvir,
2198
01:20:48,180 --> 01:20:52,160
he supported the assassination
of Prime Minister Rabin
2199
01:20:52,290 --> 01:20:54,180
when he was a youngster.
2200
01:20:54,300 --> 01:20:56,680
He was once filmed
holding a hood emblem
2201
01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:00,600
he claimed was from the car of former
Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin,
2202
01:21:00,730 --> 01:21:03,780
an architect
of the Israeli-Palestinian peace process.
2203
01:21:05,340 --> 01:21:09,050
You managed to snatch the emblem from Rabin's car.
2204
01:21:09,340 --> 01:21:12,720
The emblem is a symbol, and it symbolizes that just like we got to the emblem
2205
01:21:12,930 --> 01:21:14,510
we can get to Rabin as well.
2206
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:18,970
I think one is justified in committing horrible acts against him.
2207
01:21:22,870 --> 01:21:26,380
A Jewish extremist
assassinated Rabin three weeks later.
2208
01:21:29,250 --> 01:21:32,380
Ben-Gvir, he was not
recruited to military service
2209
01:21:32,510 --> 01:21:35,880
because he was condemned in court
2210
01:21:36,010 --> 01:21:39,100
as one who support Jewish terror.
2211
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:42,810
He's the follower
of a racist movement,
2212
01:21:42,930 --> 01:21:47,160
and wants to expel
what he calls "disloyal Arabs."
2213
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:51,730
I love Israel, and I don't want to...
2214
01:21:53,990 --> 01:21:55,570
Just a minute!
2215
01:21:55,700 --> 01:21:58,410
They want...
They want kill me and kill you,
2216
01:21:58,530 --> 01:21:59,910
the Jihadisti!
2217
01:22:00,030 --> 01:22:02,160
In occupied East Jerusalem,
2218
01:22:02,290 --> 01:22:03,910
he pulled out his gun,
2219
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:07,290
calling for Palestinians who throw stones
to be shot.
2220
01:22:07,420 --> 01:22:11,460
He see violence as a legitimate action.
2221
01:22:11,590 --> 01:22:16,470
These are people that Netanyahu
would not agree to take picture with
2222
01:22:16,590 --> 01:22:18,590
just two, three years ago.
2223
01:22:19,550 --> 01:22:23,850
But now,
Smotrich is the Minister of Finance,
2224
01:22:23,970 --> 01:22:28,190
and Ben-Gvir
is the Minister of National Security.
2225
01:22:29,190 --> 01:22:33,110
He is now captive to their whims!
2226
01:22:34,230 --> 01:22:36,320
They are pro-expansion
of Jewish settlements
2227
01:22:36,440 --> 01:22:39,360
in the occupied West Bank,
2228
01:22:39,490 --> 01:22:42,830
retaking land
they believe belongs to them.
2229
01:22:42,950 --> 01:22:46,270
These people
are messianic annexationists...
2230
01:22:46,390 --> 01:22:49,350
Yes, we've approved nine outposts, nine settlements,
2231
01:22:49,610 --> 01:22:52,070
and God willing, we'll approve many more.
2232
01:22:52,090 --> 01:22:53,750
..Jewish supremacists...
2233
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,090
What do you say
to those who say you are
2234
01:22:56,210 --> 01:22:58,860
inciting violence against Palestinians?
2235
01:22:59,030 --> 01:23:00,620
The Jewish people have human rights.
2236
01:23:00,620 --> 01:23:02,330
Palestinians, Palestinians.
2237
01:23:02,370 --> 01:23:04,120
You keep asking about Palestinians.
2238
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:05,080
You don't care about Jews.
2239
01:23:07,610 --> 01:23:12,490
These people want to settle
Gaza and the West Bank.
2240
01:23:35,990 --> 01:23:38,490
Since Netanyahu and his extremist gang assumed power
2241
01:23:38,700 --> 01:23:43,120
the crimes have become extreme and horrific in the West Bank.
2242
01:23:54,340 --> 01:23:57,300
On April 20th, we were heading to
2243
01:23:57,300 --> 01:24:00,760
a location of a car accident.
2244
01:24:03,140 --> 01:24:05,850
We encountered settlers attacking homes
2245
01:24:05,850 --> 01:24:07,770
and burning them down.
2246
01:24:08,100 --> 01:24:10,690
It was very dangerous.
2247
01:24:11,350 --> 01:24:14,230
The occupation forces and settlers were outraged
2248
01:24:14,230 --> 01:24:16,320
by the presence of the ambulance on site.
2249
01:24:17,900 --> 01:24:20,490
They shot at our ambulance driver...
2250
01:24:22,030 --> 01:24:24,030
and killed him.
2251
01:24:25,870 --> 01:24:27,660
He bled...
2252
01:24:27,660 --> 01:24:31,460
he bled all over the ambulance,
2253
01:24:32,290 --> 01:24:34,000
This was the hardest thing ever
2254
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,210
to have him bleed to death between your hands.
2255
01:24:36,210 --> 01:24:39,970
And there was nothing we could do to help him. There was nothing I could do to save his life.
2256
01:24:43,180 --> 01:24:46,350
We are unarmed.
2257
01:24:47,390 --> 01:24:48,600
We are paramedics.
2258
01:24:49,270 --> 01:24:52,270
Trying to help injured people.
2259
01:24:55,440 --> 01:25:00,190
Every unimaginable atrocity happened during the rule
2260
01:25:00,190 --> 01:25:05,620
of the extremist ministers Ben-Gvir and Smotrich
2261
01:25:05,620 --> 01:25:09,620
and their Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
2262
01:25:14,290 --> 01:25:17,380
Israelis are constantly being represented as immoral.
2263
01:25:17,380 --> 01:25:20,460
โHow are you doing these things to the poor Palestinians?"
2264
01:25:20,470 --> 01:25:22,510
When that's not the reality!
2265
01:25:22,510 --> 01:25:26,010
They attack and murder us, when all we do is open our arms to them.
2266
01:25:27,470 --> 01:25:30,930
We will annex, whether you like it or not.
2267
01:25:31,350 --> 01:25:33,480
Because this is our Land of Israel.
2268
01:25:33,650 --> 01:25:37,730
It was given to us since the dawn of time by God almighty.
2269
01:25:38,980 --> 01:25:41,070
I want to erase the thing called "The Authority." (The Palestinian Authority)
2270
01:25:41,070 --> 01:25:42,240
There will be no "Authority."
2271
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:44,740
What are you going to do with the 3 million people that live here? Who will accept them?
2272
01:25:44,740 --> 01:25:48,450
Wait a minute, there are many places in Europe that are looking for working hands.
2273
01:25:48,450 --> 01:25:49,830
We can do it, even in agreements.
2274
01:25:49,830 --> 01:25:50,910
We will bring them to Europe?
2275
01:25:53,810 --> 01:25:57,730
I think one of
the most unknown issues regarding Israel,
2276
01:25:57,850 --> 01:26:02,030
that 20% of the population
are Arab-Palestinians.
2277
01:26:03,940 --> 01:26:08,830
For a Palestinian
who lives in the state of Israel...
2278
01:26:08,950 --> 01:26:13,670
being a member of the Knesset
is a very, very complicated issue.
2279
01:26:16,660 --> 01:26:18,950
You never go happy to work.
2280
01:26:22,170 --> 01:26:26,880
This man is now the minister
that is controlling the police,
2281
01:26:27,010 --> 01:26:32,350
and he is bringing his racist,
violent ideology
2282
01:26:32,480 --> 01:26:35,020
in all the policing system inside Israel.
2283
01:26:37,100 --> 01:26:40,520
Smotrich would do
ethnic cleansing
2284
01:26:40,650 --> 01:26:43,510
based on his published plan.
2285
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:49,630
That's... Bibi's governing coalition.
2286
01:26:51,950 --> 01:26:53,870
For them,
Ben-Gvir and Smotrich,
2287
01:26:53,990 --> 01:26:58,120
they have zero interest
in the corruption cases,
2288
01:26:58,250 --> 01:27:02,040
because Netanyahu
is the messiah's donkey.
2289
01:27:02,170 --> 01:27:06,630
He can bring us all our fantasies,
all our dreams,
2290
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:11,890
our vision to annex Judea and Samaria,
2291
01:27:12,010 --> 01:27:14,850
to kill, one time and for all,
2292
01:27:14,970 --> 01:27:16,930
the idea of Palestinian state.
2293
01:27:17,060 --> 01:27:22,160
So, what happened in 2023?
2294
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:28,740
What was the difference between 2023
and the 20 years that came before?
2295
01:27:28,860 --> 01:27:32,250
Only one thing - the Supreme Court.
2296
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:42,170
The Supreme Court
was perceived by his partners -
2297
01:27:42,290 --> 01:27:44,460
the Ben-Gvirs, the Smotriches -
2298
01:27:44,590 --> 01:27:48,170
as the rival
of what they want to achieve.
2299
01:27:48,300 --> 01:27:50,430
Because if you are an annexationist,
2300
01:27:50,550 --> 01:27:53,140
the Supreme Court might stop you,
2301
01:27:53,260 --> 01:27:57,180
so you need to castrate the Supreme Court
from being able to stop you.
2302
01:28:00,230 --> 01:28:03,900
At the same time,
Netanyahu realised
2303
01:28:04,020 --> 01:28:09,860
judicial reform could be a way
to legislate his way out...
2304
01:28:09,990 --> 01:28:12,290
of his legal predicament.
2305
01:28:15,620 --> 01:28:18,540
Netanyahu looked
at the Supreme Court
2306
01:28:18,670 --> 01:28:23,510
as an immediate, direct,
personal threat to him.
2307
01:28:25,170 --> 01:28:29,260
It was a week after
the government was formed...
2308
01:28:29,380 --> 01:28:31,970
Netanyahu presented a very drastic,
2309
01:28:32,090 --> 01:28:36,470
very aggressive reform
against the legal system.
2310
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:41,060
And he just...
put all Israel in turmoil.
2311
01:28:50,740 --> 01:28:52,650
The people said,
"Enough is enough."
2312
01:28:54,660 --> 01:28:57,160
The legal reform that he wanted
2313
01:28:57,290 --> 01:29:00,200
made it so Netanyahu would appoint
2314
01:29:00,330 --> 01:29:03,830
the judges that will hear his appeal.
2315
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:06,200
I mean, it was...
And it was transparent.
2316
01:29:07,380 --> 01:29:12,020
He wanted to avoid any prison time.
2317
01:29:13,300 --> 01:29:17,550
He wanted to change
the way we elect judges.
2318
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:20,180
"We need to change
the power that they have,
2319
01:29:20,310 --> 01:29:23,770
"so they will have much less power,
the Supreme Court.
2320
01:29:23,890 --> 01:29:27,230
"We need to change the police,
we need to change the Attorney General,
2321
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,900
"we need to choose
a different Attorney General."
2322
01:29:30,020 --> 01:29:35,530
He wanted to break
the bones of the system
2323
01:29:35,660 --> 01:29:38,870
before they are coming close
2324
01:29:38,990 --> 01:29:42,080
to determine
his political and personal fate.
2325
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,920
What do you say
to your critics that say that this reform
2326
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:48,380
is designed, in part,
for you to protect yourself?
2327
01:29:48,500 --> 01:29:52,770
I think it's ridiculous.
This has nothing to do with my trial...
2328
01:29:54,010 --> 01:29:57,050
There is no question in my mind...
2329
01:29:57,180 --> 01:30:01,560
that the burden of the investigation,
the fear of the investigation,
2330
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:04,930
has led him to take terrible decisions
2331
01:30:05,060 --> 01:30:07,900
that were completely affected
2332
01:30:08,020 --> 01:30:11,170
by his fears and his agony.
2333
01:30:12,940 --> 01:30:15,020
Jail is a threat,
2334
01:30:15,140 --> 01:30:18,570
and he can identify threat
2335
01:30:18,700 --> 01:30:22,410
more than any other person whom I met,
2336
01:30:22,540 --> 01:30:27,080
because he is always afraid.
2337
01:30:27,210 --> 01:30:28,710
What do you say to people who say
2338
01:30:28,830 --> 01:30:30,510
you're only trying
to override the judiciary
2339
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:34,010
- because of your own interests?
- None of the reforms... That's false.
2340
01:30:34,130 --> 01:30:36,260
None of the reforms
that we're talking about -
2341
01:30:36,380 --> 01:30:39,720
these democratic reforms -
have anything to do with my trial.
2342
01:30:43,770 --> 01:30:46,390
All these people protesting
just don't get it?
2343
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:48,440
Many of them don't. Many of them...
2344
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,020
Isn't that slightly patronising,
Prime Minister?
2345
01:30:50,150 --> 01:30:51,890
- No, I don't think so.
- To tell your own people,
2346
01:30:52,020 --> 01:30:53,610
who are protesting
in the hundreds of thousands...
2347
01:30:53,730 --> 01:30:54,980
I didn't say that all of them don't!
2348
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:00,410
Do you accept the premise
that the public is upset about this?
2349
01:31:00,530 --> 01:31:03,490
Well, some of it is upset.
2350
01:31:03,620 --> 01:31:06,370
You wouldn't know about
the other side that seeks...
2351
01:31:06,500 --> 01:31:08,460
that wants to have the judicial reform
2352
01:31:08,580 --> 01:31:11,000
because their demonstrations
are not covered.
2353
01:31:11,130 --> 01:31:13,430
So, yes,
there is a divided country right now.
2354
01:31:15,590 --> 01:31:19,300
The public response
was the most massive demonstration
2355
01:31:19,430 --> 01:31:22,580
that we had seen ever, on any issue.
2356
01:31:22,700 --> 01:31:27,640
And it was week after week after week
for something like 39 weeks!
2357
01:31:27,770 --> 01:31:32,400
It was young and old,
and religious people even came,
2358
01:31:32,530 --> 01:31:35,020
and, of course, secular and kids.
2359
01:31:35,150 --> 01:31:36,900
My kids were in the streets.
2360
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:41,490
Your cameraman was beaten many times,
2361
01:31:41,610 --> 01:31:45,120
I believe, and was arrested,
or whatever happened to him.
2362
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:48,000
Everybody was in the street.
2363
01:31:49,910 --> 01:31:53,250
Bibi made major mistakes.
2364
01:31:53,380 --> 01:31:57,210
What he did to my country is terrible.
2365
01:31:57,340 --> 01:31:59,510
It's really unforgivable.
2366
01:32:00,590 --> 01:32:02,340
And he knows what he's doing.
2367
01:32:02,470 --> 01:32:04,260
It's not that he doesn't know.
2368
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:07,820
It was too much.
2369
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:13,730
At that point, I said, "I'm
coming out and I'm speaking in public."
2370
01:32:15,670 --> 01:32:18,510
Netanyahu will be remembered as the destroyer of the state
2371
01:32:18,510 --> 01:32:20,720
as the one who tore it to pieces.
2372
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:23,600
And why?
2373
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:27,970
Because the democratic state won't let him escape due process.
2374
01:32:28,930 --> 01:32:30,440
But have no doubt
2375
01:32:30,440 --> 01:32:33,400
we will fight with determination and courage.
2376
01:32:36,090 --> 01:32:39,420
Netanyahu's legal predicament...
2377
01:32:39,550 --> 01:32:42,970
was undermining our security.
2378
01:32:43,090 --> 01:32:48,180
The army started to say that,
"Look, our enemies...
2379
01:32:48,310 --> 01:32:49,520
"are watching us."
2380
01:32:53,140 --> 01:32:56,770
We were weak,
but not because of the protests...
2381
01:32:56,900 --> 01:32:59,360
because of the policy that he led.
2382
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:04,820
And it was clear to me
that our resilience... is falling apart.
2383
01:33:04,950 --> 01:33:09,200
It create a huge danger -
security danger -
2384
01:33:09,330 --> 01:33:12,960
because our enemies understand it...
2385
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:15,670
sometimes earlier than we do.
2386
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:57,400
I am getting messages from scared civilians
2387
01:33:57,770 --> 01:33:59,190
that are begging for help.
2388
01:33:59,650 --> 01:34:00,440
"Where is the army?"
2389
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:06,700
People infiltrated in here. Ben get in the car!
2390
01:34:31,810 --> 01:34:35,190
Our brothers died because of you! We will shoot you all!
2391
01:35:06,990 --> 01:35:11,530
I didn't expect
October 7th to happen.
2392
01:35:11,660 --> 01:35:15,370
I didn't expect it,
but I wish I could say I was surprised.
2393
01:35:16,750 --> 01:35:20,270
Things have been heating up for a while.
2394
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:25,820
I'm not very old -
I'm 20 years old -
2395
01:35:25,950 --> 01:35:29,040
but for my entire life,
I have known...
2396
01:35:30,340 --> 01:35:34,640
...bombs and war, and now, this situation.
2397
01:35:46,530 --> 01:35:49,740
I was raised in Kibbutz Be'eri,
in the Negev,
2398
01:35:49,860 --> 01:35:53,620
which is in the south of this land.
2399
01:35:53,740 --> 01:35:56,990
The kibbutz, it's very based on community.
2400
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:01,250
There's a lot of agriculture and nature.
2401
01:36:01,370 --> 01:36:03,670
It's not that big -
everybody knows everybody else -
2402
01:36:03,790 --> 01:36:07,960
and we are a very tight-knit community
in that sense.
2403
01:36:09,470 --> 01:36:15,300
On October 7th,
people from Hamas entered my kibbutz
2404
01:36:15,430 --> 01:36:17,680
in the early morning
2405
01:36:17,810 --> 01:36:21,600
and started burning houses...
2406
01:36:22,690 --> 01:36:24,860
...and murdering people.
2407
01:36:30,490 --> 01:36:34,570
Over 90 people that I used to know
are dead now...
2408
01:36:38,170 --> 01:36:40,500
...which is a lot to grapple with.
2409
01:36:41,710 --> 01:36:43,760
It's a lot to comprehend.
2410
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:47,590
There are people
that are still held hostage,
2411
01:36:47,710 --> 01:36:50,330
as well as people that...
2412
01:36:50,460 --> 01:36:52,390
we don't know where they are.
2413
01:36:55,930 --> 01:36:59,140
Bibi has not been to Be'eri
since October 7th,
2414
01:36:59,270 --> 01:37:03,690
and I don't want him to come, because...
2415
01:37:03,810 --> 01:37:06,310
I would never welcome him in my home.
2416
01:37:06,440 --> 01:37:10,320
He was Prime Minister
ever since I can remember,
2417
01:37:10,440 --> 01:37:16,240
and, living on the border,
I always felt...
2418
01:37:16,370 --> 01:37:20,330
the effects of that -
negative effects of that, always -
2419
01:37:20,450 --> 01:37:23,580
of his choices and his policies
and how that affected me,
2420
01:37:23,710 --> 01:37:25,920
and later, his corruption, as well.
2421
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:29,210
And I don't want to hear his name,
2422
01:37:29,340 --> 01:37:31,510
I don't want to see his face.
2423
01:37:31,630 --> 01:37:33,390
I am exhausted of him.
2424
01:37:38,660 --> 01:37:44,870
Do you remember that line from The Godfather?
2425
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:49,670
"Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer."
2426
01:37:49,670 --> 01:37:53,510
Lower the flames, maintain a conversation.
2427
01:37:53,510 --> 01:37:58,810
I'll give you an example. Today, with our enemies, we are in talks
2428
01:37:58,810 --> 01:38:05,440
no one thinks we can manage to reach an agreement with them.
2429
01:38:05,440 --> 01:38:11,070
But we control the height of the flames.
2430
01:38:11,300 --> 01:38:15,880
The public
blames Netanyahu for October 7th
2431
01:38:16,010 --> 01:38:19,890
as the one who fed the beast.
2432
01:38:20,010 --> 01:38:23,600
He did not create Hamas, but he fed it.
2433
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:25,500
Netanyahu...
2434
01:38:25,630 --> 01:38:27,940
who is against peace...
2435
01:38:28,060 --> 01:38:32,230
and who is against
having a Palestinian state...
2436
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:36,060
dealt with Hamas for a long time...
2437
01:38:36,180 --> 01:38:39,070
as a strategic friend.
2438
01:38:39,510 --> 01:38:41,890
This is confidential and can't be leaked. Okay?
2439
01:38:41,890 --> 01:38:46,020
We have neighbors here, sworn enemies.
2440
01:38:46,020 --> 01:38:48,270
I'm constantly passing them messages.
2441
01:38:48,270 --> 01:38:52,070
I confuse them, mislead them, lie to them
2442
01:38:52,070 --> 01:38:54,900
and then hit them over their heads.
2443
01:38:56,050 --> 01:39:01,430
It was important for him
to keep Gaza under the control of Hamas,
2444
01:39:01,550 --> 01:39:05,520
and keeping the West Bank
under the control of Fatah,
2445
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:10,650
and preventing them
from being united in any way.
2446
01:39:10,770 --> 01:39:12,650
In order to do so,
2447
01:39:12,770 --> 01:39:16,440
Netanyahu was, all the time,
helping Hamas to survive.
2448
01:39:21,980 --> 01:39:25,120
At the same time
that he was under investigation,
2449
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:28,710
he arranged for Hamas to receive
2450
01:39:28,830 --> 01:39:32,420
$35 million every month from Qatar.
2451
01:39:32,540 --> 01:39:35,800
Netanyahu can't give
them money by himself.
2452
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,550
Israel will not give money to the Hamas.
2453
01:39:38,670 --> 01:39:42,010
You cannot even transfer
this money through banks,
2454
01:39:42,140 --> 01:39:44,510
because even the banks
don't want to cooperate.
2455
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:47,480
So, you, the Israeli Prime Minister,
2456
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:51,900
needs to beg
this small and very rich country, Qatar,
2457
01:39:52,020 --> 01:39:55,650
to give money... to our enemy.
2458
01:39:57,450 --> 01:40:02,740
These suitcases of money
was given to Hamas...
2459
01:40:02,870 --> 01:40:06,750
under the request
of Benjamin Netanyahu personally!
2460
01:40:07,750 --> 01:40:11,790
And because the Qatarians
knew him from the beginning...
2461
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:13,920
they were asking him...
2462
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:17,390
to send them his requests in writing...
2463
01:40:18,630 --> 01:40:22,010
...because they knew
that he was going to lie in the future.
2464
01:40:24,510 --> 01:40:27,000
He allowed more than one billion
2465
01:40:27,130 --> 01:40:30,140
to be transferred
to the hands of the Hamas
2466
01:40:30,270 --> 01:40:31,890
because he believed
2467
01:40:32,020 --> 01:40:36,400
that he can control the level of hatred.
2468
01:40:37,480 --> 01:40:41,050
It's nonsense.
He cannot control the flames.
2469
01:40:41,220 --> 01:40:44,890
Mr. Prime Minister, what is your opinion of Qatari money entering Gaza?
2470
01:40:44,890 --> 01:40:47,350
Will it help keep the calm in the Strip?
2471
01:40:48,430 --> 01:40:50,480
I do whatever I can
2472
01:40:50,480 --> 01:40:54,020
in coordination with the security agencies...
2473
01:40:55,070 --> 01:40:58,940
to bring quiet back to the towns in southern Israel.
2474
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:02,110
Every step has a price, without exception.
2475
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:04,120
When you take steps as a leader...
2476
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,030
There. Is. Always. A. Price.
2477
01:41:06,030 --> 01:41:08,330
If you cannot handle the price, you cannot lead.
2478
01:41:08,950 --> 01:41:10,620
And I know how to handle the price.
2479
01:41:14,180 --> 01:41:17,980
Your strategy was...
keep Hamas there,
2480
01:41:18,110 --> 01:41:21,070
weaken the Palestinian authority
on the West Bank,
2481
01:41:21,190 --> 01:41:25,410
sustain the extremists,
weaken the moderates.
2482
01:41:27,450 --> 01:41:33,170
This exploded in our faces
in the most brutal way on October 7th.
2483
01:41:35,150 --> 01:41:39,750
Bibi tells the world,
again and again and again,
2484
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:41,760
"I am the expert on terrorism.
2485
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:43,970
"I know how to fight terrorism.
2486
01:41:44,090 --> 01:41:46,430
"I am the protector of Israel."
2487
01:41:46,550 --> 01:41:50,180
And under his... regime,
2488
01:41:50,310 --> 01:41:54,730
we get into this incredible,
unbelievable war.
2489
01:42:24,660 --> 01:42:27,820
Citizens of Israel, we are at war.
2490
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:30,790
Not an operation, not a round of fighting.
2491
01:42:30,990 --> 01:42:32,080
At war!
2492
01:42:38,770 --> 01:42:42,480
Chaos, carnage
and confusion today in the Middle East.
2493
01:42:42,610 --> 01:42:44,990
Four months after
the terror attack in Israel,
2494
01:42:45,110 --> 01:42:47,240
the fighting continues.
2495
01:42:48,450 --> 01:42:52,830
It started with
my neighbours in my Kibbutz being killed,
2496
01:42:52,950 --> 01:42:56,830
and it continues with
my neighbours in Gaza being killed.
2497
01:42:58,710 --> 01:43:03,880
The death toll inside Gaza
now surpasses 15,000 Palestinians...
2498
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:07,050
- ..20,000 people...- ..now more than 25,000...
2499
01:43:07,170 --> 01:43:09,930
..more than 30,000
Palestinians have been killed in Gaza
2500
01:43:10,050 --> 01:43:12,140
since October 7th.
2501
01:43:24,230 --> 01:43:27,860
The far right in Israel
want a constant war,
2502
01:43:27,990 --> 01:43:31,870
never-ending war,
because they think, in their fantasy,
2503
01:43:31,990 --> 01:43:35,290
that we can eradicate the Hamas
from Gaza Strip,
2504
01:43:35,410 --> 01:43:40,250
and then we can eliminate
Hezbollah from Lebanon,
2505
01:43:40,370 --> 01:43:44,380
and maybe we can have
a Jewish presence in Gaza Strip
2506
01:43:44,500 --> 01:43:46,170
and in South Lebanon.
2507
01:43:48,550 --> 01:43:51,090
The people who are talking
about a military solution,
2508
01:43:51,220 --> 01:43:53,720
I mean, what's happening right now
is not a solution,
2509
01:43:53,850 --> 01:43:56,810
it's just a massacre in Gaza.
2510
01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:02,230
I don't think that makes
anything in our future better
2511
01:44:02,350 --> 01:44:06,190
and anything in our present better,
it's just horrible.
2512
01:44:12,570 --> 01:44:15,580
This death, this pain, this cruelty
2513
01:44:15,700 --> 01:44:17,630
became bigger and bigger and bigger.
2514
01:44:19,410 --> 01:44:23,460
As the Gaza war continues,
so, too, does the hostage crisis.
2515
01:44:23,580 --> 01:44:27,380
Despite the return of dozens of kidnapped
Israelis during the temporary truce,
2516
01:44:27,510 --> 01:44:30,590
many more still remain in Gaza.
2517
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:34,930
I have been waiting for the
government to bring me my son, Matan.
2518
01:44:35,050 --> 01:44:37,010
I can't wait any more.
2519
01:44:37,140 --> 01:44:39,100
I can't sit at home and wait.
2520
01:44:39,220 --> 01:44:43,770
My son should be home yesterday! Now!
2521
01:44:43,900 --> 01:44:46,940
The kidnapped must come home.
In this minute!
2522
01:44:47,070 --> 01:44:50,110
- Everybody should scream about it!
- Can't be longer!
2523
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:53,110
It cannot be longer like this!
2524
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:57,620
In my judgment,
hostages come first and foremost,
2525
01:44:57,740 --> 01:45:00,370
above any other objective of the war.
2526
01:45:01,410 --> 01:45:04,440
We know that
not all of them are surviving.
2527
01:45:06,170 --> 01:45:08,170
Destroying Hamas can wait.
2528
01:45:09,300 --> 01:45:11,930
But the hostages cannot wait another day.
2529
01:45:13,470 --> 01:45:15,800
But Bibi's government,
2530
01:45:15,930 --> 01:45:19,970
they are not willing to hear
of ending the war.
2531
01:45:21,370 --> 01:45:23,790
I just had a meeting with the Prime Minister.
2532
01:45:24,130 --> 01:45:27,960
The Prime Minister heard me, promised me Israelis entering Rafah.
2533
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:32,380
Promised we are not ending the war and not giving in to foolish deals.
2534
01:45:32,380 --> 01:45:34,090
I bless these decisions.
2535
01:45:34,090 --> 01:45:35,850
The Prime Minister understands
2536
01:45:35,850 --> 01:45:39,010
there will be grave consequences otherwise.
2537
01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:46,110
The "price" of the hostages
2538
01:45:46,110 --> 01:45:50,860
you can use that as a cynical campaign slogan...
2539
01:45:50,860 --> 01:45:51,530
Cynical?
2540
01:45:51,530 --> 01:45:54,200
Yes. It's one of our biggest dilemmas.
2541
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:57,280
You just called it a "cynical campaign?"
2542
01:45:57,280 --> 01:46:00,580
Tell me what's cynical about us trying to...
2543
01:46:00,580 --> 01:46:01,910
No, you shut up!
2544
01:46:01,910 --> 01:46:11,300
Sinwar is demanding we release hundreds of terrorists. Murderers with blood on their hands.
2545
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:13,130
You have blood on your hands!
2546
01:46:13,130 --> 01:46:18,550
Hamas has existed for 20 years, and for 20 years you've done nothing about it! At least do something useful now!
2547
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:23,100
Or put your own kids there! Get ours out and put yours in!
2548
01:46:23,440 --> 01:46:24,020
Why are you yelling?
2549
01:46:24,020 --> 01:46:25,230
Why are you yelling? Why are you pompous?!
2550
01:46:25,230 --> 01:46:27,610
I'm yelling because this is shameful!
2551
01:46:29,710 --> 01:46:34,300
The hostage families, they
ask for a meeting with the Prime Minister,
2552
01:46:34,420 --> 01:46:36,090
because they are desperate.
2553
01:46:37,590 --> 01:46:41,220
In this desperation,
when they come to him,
2554
01:46:41,350 --> 01:46:45,080
and she's sitting next to him,
Sara Netanyahu.
2555
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:50,650
There were some reports about
things that she said in those meetings,
2556
01:46:50,770 --> 01:46:54,650
trying to encourage them to say
good things about the Prime Minister,
2557
01:46:54,780 --> 01:46:58,240
"or else why should we help them?"
2558
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:03,270
Now to the Sara Netanyahu scandal
2559
01:47:03,430 --> 01:47:06,810
and her criticism toward the released hostages and their families.
2560
01:47:06,810 --> 01:47:11,070
Yes, last week in two different meetings that were held with Sara Netanyahu
2561
01:47:11,190 --> 01:47:16,030
the Prime Minister's wife expressed criticism over the released hostages and their families.
2562
01:47:16,030 --> 01:47:20,740
Madame First Lady, you complained that the families of released hostages did not thank the Prime Minister.
2563
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:22,790
Do you want to comment on this?
2564
01:47:22,850 --> 01:47:26,060
The hostage families,
they don't like it,
2565
01:47:26,180 --> 01:47:29,100
but if your son or father
is in the hands of the Hamas,
2566
01:47:29,230 --> 01:47:30,650
you will do everything!
2567
01:47:30,770 --> 01:47:32,480
Flatter her.
2568
01:47:32,610 --> 01:47:34,530
Say good things about her.
2569
01:47:34,660 --> 01:47:36,970
Have a picture with her.
Whatever she needs.
2570
01:47:38,780 --> 01:47:42,870
Instead of having the Prime Minister say,
2571
01:47:42,990 --> 01:47:45,870
"Let me tell you everything I can...
2572
01:47:45,990 --> 01:47:49,080
"about your beloved one,
about the efforts to release them,"
2573
01:47:49,210 --> 01:47:53,340
instead of that, you need to
flatter the wife of the Prime Minister
2574
01:47:53,460 --> 01:47:56,260
and say,
"Oh, Sara, you're so helpful,"
2575
01:47:56,380 --> 01:48:01,090
and, "Thank you so much
for investing the time and the energy."
2576
01:48:01,220 --> 01:48:04,970
The hostage families
are in a very delicate situation.
2577
01:48:05,100 --> 01:48:10,310
Like, almost every hostage family I know
is very, very critical of Netanyahu.
2578
01:48:10,440 --> 01:48:14,670
But I know that many of them
are very, very scared
2579
01:48:14,790 --> 01:48:17,600
to speak their criticism,
2580
01:48:17,730 --> 01:48:19,650
that if they do...
2581
01:48:19,780 --> 01:48:23,370
the government will try
even less for the hostages.
2582
01:48:23,490 --> 01:48:25,660
What is the higher priority
at this moment -
2583
01:48:25,780 --> 01:48:27,370
totally eliminating Hamas,
2584
01:48:27,490 --> 01:48:30,750
or saving the lives of those hostages
and getting them free?
2585
01:48:30,870 --> 01:48:35,250
The reason we succeeded
in getting 110 hostages out -
2586
01:48:35,380 --> 01:48:37,130
that's half the hostages -
2587
01:48:37,250 --> 01:48:40,170
is because we applied military pressure,
not because we stopped applying it.
2588
01:48:40,300 --> 01:48:44,550
We understand, also, that the
one thing that gets Hamas to give them -
2589
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:46,680
to give these hostages to us -
2590
01:48:46,810 --> 01:48:49,100
is the continued military pressure.
2591
01:48:49,220 --> 01:48:53,220
The only thing that gets Hamas to
release the hostages is military pressure.
2592
01:48:54,230 --> 01:48:59,480
The argument that
only military pressure will produce a deal
2593
01:48:59,610 --> 01:49:02,830
proved tragically erroneous.
2594
01:49:04,030 --> 01:49:07,240
And yet, the war continues aimlessly!
2595
01:49:07,370 --> 01:49:09,840
I mean, is the objective the last...
2596
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:15,750
...Hamas soldier with a weapon in a tunnel?
2597
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:17,710
That will take years!
2598
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:20,050
And how many casualties?
2599
01:49:20,170 --> 01:49:21,720
I think we have to finish the job.
2600
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:23,220
We can finish the job.
2601
01:49:23,340 --> 01:49:26,890
Victory is within reach,
and that's our goal - total victory.
2602
01:49:27,010 --> 01:49:30,390
Our fight is your fight,
and our victory is your victory.
2603
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:33,190
Tonight, I want to speak to you
about total victory.
2604
01:49:33,310 --> 01:49:34,390
Total victory over Hamas.
2605
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:37,230
Unless we have total victory,
we can't have peace.
2606
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:40,820
"Total victory"
doesn't actually mean anything here,
2607
01:49:40,940 --> 01:49:42,490
in actuality.
2608
01:49:42,610 --> 01:49:45,070
You know all the casualties
and death and suffering,
2609
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:48,450
and that's what it looks like, in reality.
That's what it looks like.
2610
01:49:48,580 --> 01:49:51,290
That's what those words actually mean.
2611
01:49:53,620 --> 01:49:57,330
My dear friends,
the war in Gaza could end tomorrow
2612
01:49:57,460 --> 01:50:02,010
if Hamas surrenders, disarms,
and returns all the hostages.
2613
01:50:05,050 --> 01:50:06,840
That's what "total victory" means,
2614
01:50:06,970 --> 01:50:09,260
and we will settle for nothing less!
2615
01:50:13,060 --> 01:50:16,300
Netanyahu goes to the Congress
2616
01:50:16,420 --> 01:50:19,610
because he needs the Americans
desperately.
2617
01:50:19,730 --> 01:50:23,150
My friends,
I came to assure you today of one thing -
2618
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:26,110
we will win!
2619
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:30,000
He wants the Israeli public
to be proud
2620
01:50:30,130 --> 01:50:35,930
to have their leader speak
in front of this very prestigious group...
2621
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:40,440
...and getting applaud so many times.
2622
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:44,800
He's speaking to the American Congress,
2623
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:47,460
but he's really speaking
to the Israeli public.
2624
01:50:48,470 --> 01:50:51,470
Together, we shall defend
our common civilisation.
2625
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:56,690
Together, we shall secure
a brilliant future for both our nations!
2626
01:50:58,900 --> 01:51:02,610
Well, I would say that,
tragically,
2627
01:51:02,730 --> 01:51:04,620
the Americans don't know
how to call him out.
2628
01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:11,320
There was no plan
for ending the war of Gaza,
2629
01:51:11,450 --> 01:51:15,460
bringing the hostages home,
and changing dynamics in the region.
2630
01:51:15,590 --> 01:51:17,830
And things only got worse.
2631
01:51:24,670 --> 01:51:28,840
Netanyahu
is the architect of chaos.
2632
01:51:30,550 --> 01:51:35,140
And, as we speak,
when all eyes are on the front in Gaza
2633
01:51:35,270 --> 01:51:38,310
and the front in Lebanon...
2634
01:51:42,980 --> 01:51:45,900
..he is implementing his plan
in the West Bank
2635
01:51:46,030 --> 01:51:48,990
with the extreme right.
2636
01:51:53,870 --> 01:51:58,870
He may create a situation
where it's irreversible.
2637
01:52:00,500 --> 01:52:03,960
He's the great example...
2638
01:52:04,090 --> 01:52:07,760
of a leader that lead his people...
2639
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:08,970
to the wrong place.
2640
01:52:13,510 --> 01:52:15,850
But this is the reality
2641
01:52:15,970 --> 01:52:20,020
in which he will preserve
his political power.
2642
01:52:27,230 --> 01:52:30,650
And he knows how to manipulate.
2643
01:52:30,780 --> 01:52:32,830
He needs it, in a way.
2644
01:53:09,300 --> 01:53:10,550
Okay.
2645
01:53:12,010 --> 01:53:12,680
Goodbye, thank you.
2646
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:13,550
Goodbye, thank you, Happy holidays.
2647
01:53:13,550 --> 01:53:15,640
Time flies when you're having fun.
2648
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:17,470
Goodbye, thanks so much.
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