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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:38,592 --> 00:01:40,383 No, I'm not stressed. 2 00:01:40,550 --> 00:01:43,842 I had to run. I'm going to... 3 00:01:46,842 --> 00:01:49,925 Are you okay? I want you to be okay. 4 00:01:54,550 --> 00:01:56,508 Hello? Armand? 5 00:01:58,092 --> 00:02:00,133 There you are. 6 00:02:01,592 --> 00:02:03,633 I love you. 7 00:02:06,508 --> 00:02:08,550 Do you love me? 8 00:02:11,967 --> 00:02:14,008 Armand? 9 00:04:58,842 --> 00:05:00,883 - Hi. - Hi. 10 00:05:09,258 --> 00:05:11,300 - Shall we start? - Now? 11 00:05:11,467 --> 00:05:15,300 - I can't stand the noise here. - Okay, I'll just... 12 00:05:25,467 --> 00:05:28,925 A primary school with a broken fire alarm. 13 00:05:29,092 --> 00:05:32,217 - I should send everyone home. - It's not good. 14 00:05:37,550 --> 00:05:39,842 Well, it's Armand again. 15 00:05:41,008 --> 00:05:45,675 - Have you called Elisabeth? - She didn't have time to talk. 16 00:05:45,842 --> 00:05:52,008 I didn't want to tell her via text. But I confirmed the time with a smiley. 17 00:05:53,508 --> 00:05:55,425 - A smiley? - Yes. 18 00:05:55,592 --> 00:06:00,842 I didn't want her to worry. She just answered "okay". 19 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,842 - Was that...? - And Sarah and Anders? 20 00:06:06,008 --> 00:06:11,842 I spoke to them yesterday. But I think it's hard to verify what they told us. 21 00:06:12,008 --> 00:06:16,675 The boys, they didn't really say that much. 22 00:06:19,342 --> 00:06:23,592 Well, I think we should just see how it develops. 23 00:06:23,758 --> 00:06:28,425 - Okay? - If necessary, we'll step in and help you. 24 00:06:28,592 --> 00:06:33,842 - I see. So I'll handle it on my own? - There's no reason to inflate it. 25 00:06:34,008 --> 00:06:38,592 Elisabeth is a public figure. She's been through a lot. 26 00:06:38,758 --> 00:06:43,092 - So I think we should tread carefully. - For the boys' sake too. 27 00:06:43,258 --> 00:06:45,758 Yes, of course. 28 00:06:45,925 --> 00:06:49,800 - I'll try to stay sober and factual. - Sober is good. 29 00:06:49,967 --> 00:06:51,925 I think I've got it. 30 00:06:52,967 --> 00:06:58,633 I just have one more question. What's the procedure in these circumstances? 31 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,925 If it has happened. 32 00:07:02,050 --> 00:07:05,050 Well, to put it this way, there's... 33 00:07:06,092 --> 00:07:09,967 I mean, we do have procedures. Right, Ajsa? 34 00:07:10,133 --> 00:07:14,800 We have to agree on what has happened. That's the first step. 35 00:07:14,967 --> 00:07:20,967 It might be... It might be serious, but it might also be completely innocent. 36 00:07:21,133 --> 00:07:25,050 But... Oh dear. Dammit. 37 00:07:25,217 --> 00:07:27,258 In general... 38 00:07:27,425 --> 00:07:32,633 In general it's important to show understanding for both parties. 39 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,675 Yes, I understand. But isn't there a procedure? 40 00:07:36,842 --> 00:07:39,675 Yes. Oh dear. Dripping everywhere. 41 00:07:39,842 --> 00:07:44,633 - Maybe you should go and wipe it off? - I think I have to. Excuse me. 42 00:07:50,550 --> 00:07:52,508 Right, she... 43 00:07:52,675 --> 00:07:56,842 - She's been bleeding a lot lately. - Yeah. 44 00:07:57,008 --> 00:08:00,425 Guess I'll have to make my own procedure. 45 00:08:01,883 --> 00:08:03,425 Yeah. 46 00:08:06,717 --> 00:08:08,717 And Sunna? 47 00:08:08,883 --> 00:08:11,967 Be careful about the words you choose. 48 00:08:12,133 --> 00:08:16,383 - Be diplomatic. Sober, like you said. - Sure. 49 00:08:16,550 --> 00:08:18,633 And Sunna... 50 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:23,300 You represent the school. Keep your opinions to yourself. 51 00:08:23,467 --> 00:08:26,092 - Yes, of course. - One more thing. 52 00:08:27,217 --> 00:08:30,883 - This is between us and those concerned. - Of course. 53 00:08:31,050 --> 00:08:33,425 And one more thing. 54 00:08:34,550 --> 00:08:37,508 If this blows over, it blows over. 55 00:08:38,258 --> 00:08:40,967 Yes. 56 00:08:41,133 --> 00:08:43,508 This will work out just fine. 57 00:08:44,633 --> 00:08:47,550 You've got a great presence. 58 00:08:47,717 --> 00:08:49,758 Thank you. 59 00:08:51,967 --> 00:08:55,675 Right, let's get out of this hothouse. 60 00:10:26,508 --> 00:10:28,550 Hi. 61 00:10:41,842 --> 00:10:46,800 Hi. Thank you for coming at such short notice. 62 00:10:46,967 --> 00:10:49,508 - What's happened? - I'll tell you. 63 00:10:49,675 --> 00:10:53,467 But let's wait for Jon's parents to get here. 64 00:10:53,633 --> 00:10:57,425 - Jon's parents? Why? - Like I said on the phone... 65 00:10:57,592 --> 00:11:02,508 You said nothing on the phone. Is it so serious that Sarah and Anders... 66 00:11:02,675 --> 00:11:07,717 I understand, but we must wait for them. Have a seat in the meantime. 67 00:11:07,883 --> 00:11:10,008 Take off your coat. 68 00:11:46,550 --> 00:11:50,508 Sunna, you call a meeting. Won't say what it's about. 69 00:11:50,675 --> 00:11:56,842 I'll tell you everything soon, but now we have to wait for Jon's parents. 70 00:11:57,008 --> 00:12:00,883 I'm sorry, I realise you must have many questions. 71 00:12:01,050 --> 00:12:05,550 Please sit down in the meantime. Take off your coat. 72 00:12:05,717 --> 00:12:08,258 It's nothing serious. 73 00:12:10,550 --> 00:12:12,467 Okay. 74 00:12:12,633 --> 00:12:15,300 - Nothing serious? - No. 75 00:12:15,467 --> 00:12:17,508 No. 76 00:12:18,550 --> 00:12:20,592 Very well. 77 00:12:35,592 --> 00:12:39,758 - Would you like to take off your coat? - Yeah. 78 00:12:46,842 --> 00:12:49,550 Some weather today. 79 00:12:49,717 --> 00:12:51,758 Hm? Yeah. 80 00:13:00,258 --> 00:13:03,633 Right, that's probably them. 81 00:14:01,758 --> 00:14:04,008 Are you the only one here? 82 00:14:04,175 --> 00:14:09,092 Yes, we thought it would be best initially. 83 00:14:09,258 --> 00:14:11,300 Okay. 84 00:14:12,258 --> 00:14:15,050 Hi. I'm sure it'll be okay, Sarah. 85 00:14:21,842 --> 00:14:25,008 - Sorry. Hi, Elisabeth. - Hi, Sarah. 86 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,842 - What's going on? - Oops. Excuse me. 87 00:14:31,008 --> 00:14:32,925 Sarah? 88 00:14:33,092 --> 00:14:35,967 Let's just hear what Sunna has to say. 89 00:14:38,758 --> 00:14:43,675 Right. First I'd like to thank you for coming 90 00:14:43,842 --> 00:14:46,467 at such short notice. 91 00:14:46,633 --> 00:14:51,717 This was the only day available, with summer vacation coming up. 92 00:14:52,842 --> 00:14:57,258 I think we should start by defining what our goal is. 93 00:14:59,217 --> 00:15:01,008 Right. 94 00:15:01,175 --> 00:15:06,425 I should probably mention that we've had problems with our fire alarm lately. 95 00:15:06,592 --> 00:15:09,842 It suddenly goes off in some rooms. 96 00:15:10,008 --> 00:15:13,008 But they'll fix it as soon as possible. 97 00:15:13,175 --> 00:15:17,467 - Shouldn't we go outside? - No, it's just a glitch. 98 00:15:17,633 --> 00:15:20,092 It'll be fixed by tomorrow. 99 00:15:21,425 --> 00:15:24,217 Right, okay. 100 00:15:28,842 --> 00:15:32,842 I hope that we in any case may reach some sort of... 101 00:15:36,092 --> 00:15:40,050 Agreement on the way forward, and leave this room 102 00:15:40,217 --> 00:15:42,800 with an open mind. 103 00:15:44,925 --> 00:15:50,258 So... It started when our cleaner found Jon 104 00:15:50,425 --> 00:15:54,342 crying in the boys' room. He was crying, 105 00:15:54,508 --> 00:15:58,092 and had a small scratch on his face. 106 00:15:59,383 --> 00:16:03,592 At first he didn't want to say what had happened, except that 107 00:16:03,758 --> 00:16:07,133 it was Armand who'd done it. 108 00:16:08,425 --> 00:16:12,342 Jon has spoken to you two, Sarah and Anders. 109 00:16:12,508 --> 00:16:19,008 They came to us, and asked us to treat this as a serious... 110 00:16:19,175 --> 00:16:23,050 A deviation, a possible deviation. I mean... 111 00:16:24,258 --> 00:16:28,675 In their opinion, and of course we take this seriously, a case 112 00:16:28,842 --> 00:16:32,008 of sexual deviation. 113 00:16:34,508 --> 00:16:37,383 It's known to happen among children. 114 00:16:37,550 --> 00:16:43,133 But we think it's a good idea that we meet and discuss this together. 115 00:16:47,842 --> 00:16:53,800 I understand this may sound brutal, and we should be careful about categorising it. 116 00:16:53,967 --> 00:16:59,300 But the school views this as disturbing behaviour. 117 00:16:59,467 --> 00:17:03,050 This is why we have gathered to talk about it. 118 00:17:03,217 --> 00:17:05,592 Without going into detail... 119 00:17:05,758 --> 00:17:08,050 What's actually happened? 120 00:17:12,008 --> 00:17:14,050 Tell her. 121 00:17:15,633 --> 00:17:17,675 Right. 122 00:17:30,133 --> 00:17:33,967 "Armand and Jon were playing in the school yard.โ€ 123 00:17:34,133 --> 00:17:38,383 "Jon wanted to play with Petter. This made Armand upset." 124 00:17:38,550 --> 00:17:43,258 "He said he had something to show Jon in the boys' room, but there" 125 00:17:43,425 --> 00:17:46,717 "Armand didn't have anything to show Jon." 126 00:17:46,883 --> 00:17:52,467 "Jon said he'd rather play with Petter. They'd agreed to play together.โ€ 127 00:17:52,633 --> 00:17:58,467 "Jon tried to leave, but Armand, who's stronger, wouldn't let him go." 128 00:17:58,633 --> 00:18:03,050 "Jon cried for help. Armand pinned him down, groped and hit him." 129 00:18:03,217 --> 00:18:07,883 "He said that if Jon didn't keep quiet, he'd take him" 130 00:18:08,050 --> 00:18:10,800 "anally." 131 00:18:10,967 --> 00:18:15,342 "Armand allegedly made Jon look into his bodily openings." 132 00:18:15,508 --> 00:18:20,717 "Then Armand left. An employee found Jon crying in the boys' room" 133 00:18:20,883 --> 00:18:26,092 "with a scratch in his face and his pants off." 134 00:18:26,258 --> 00:18:29,550 "This is how we became aware of" 135 00:18:31,258 --> 00:18:33,300 "this incident." 136 00:19:04,550 --> 00:19:10,342 Let me first say that this is not easy to hear about. 137 00:19:12,717 --> 00:19:16,883 And obviously I understand that this can't have been 138 00:19:17,050 --> 00:19:21,425 easy to hear from Jon. 139 00:19:25,425 --> 00:19:27,883 But, and I have to say this, 140 00:19:28,050 --> 00:19:32,217 I think the school should have informed me before we met. 141 00:19:32,383 --> 00:19:36,508 Then I could have had a proper talk with Armand 142 00:19:36,675 --> 00:19:39,133 and heard his side of the story, 143 00:19:39,300 --> 00:19:44,342 so we could have had all the facts clearly before us. 144 00:19:47,467 --> 00:19:52,217 I cannot, in my wildest imagination, understand 145 00:19:52,383 --> 00:19:56,050 that he could have done anything like this. 146 00:19:58,508 --> 00:20:01,883 I mean, where could he even get the idea? 147 00:20:03,592 --> 00:20:06,383 Well, I hear what you're saying, 148 00:20:06,550 --> 00:20:11,383 and in my defence, or rather on behalf of the school, 149 00:20:11,550 --> 00:20:15,842 we thought it would be best to present this face to face 150 00:20:16,008 --> 00:20:19,467 with all involved because it's such a serious, 151 00:20:19,633 --> 00:20:24,592 or rather that... It's an incident, a troubling incident. 152 00:20:24,758 --> 00:20:28,717 I would say that it's quite serious. 153 00:20:28,883 --> 00:20:31,133 Yes, but... 154 00:20:31,300 --> 00:20:34,092 It's been difficult to verify. 155 00:20:34,258 --> 00:20:39,758 So it's our wish to engage in dialogue rather than accuse anyone of anything. 156 00:20:39,925 --> 00:20:46,217 It was our suggestion that we could meet and talk about it together. 157 00:20:46,383 --> 00:20:50,383 - We thought it would be only fair. - Right. 158 00:20:50,550 --> 00:20:52,592 But... 159 00:20:54,217 --> 00:20:57,175 I mean, is there nothing about this 160 00:20:57,342 --> 00:21:00,800 that sounds a little strange to you? 161 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:08,717 Do we simply accept this as a fact, that a six-year-old has assaulted a classmate? 162 00:21:11,675 --> 00:21:13,717 Like, how did... 163 00:21:13,883 --> 00:21:16,675 How did Jon tell you about this? 164 00:21:18,092 --> 00:21:21,592 Which words did he use? The way you tell it, 165 00:21:21,758 --> 00:21:27,383 a six-year-old doesn't have that vocabulary; "anal", "oral", "fuck"? 166 00:21:27,550 --> 00:21:31,467 He barely knows the difference between boys and girls. 167 00:21:31,633 --> 00:21:34,842 "Fuck" is a word many six-year-olds know. 168 00:21:35,008 --> 00:21:38,133 Listen, Jon came home. 169 00:21:38,300 --> 00:21:42,092 He was afraid. He was nauseous. 170 00:21:42,258 --> 00:21:45,967 - He had bruises all over his body... - Bruises too? 171 00:21:46,133 --> 00:21:48,592 That's new to me. 172 00:21:50,592 --> 00:21:53,508 - Didn't you see them too, Anders? - Yes. 173 00:21:53,675 --> 00:21:56,467 I suppose there were, yes. 174 00:21:58,508 --> 00:22:00,883 Right, I'm calling Armand. 175 00:22:14,258 --> 00:22:19,508 Well, I think we have to give her a moment. 176 00:22:37,383 --> 00:22:40,008 There. 177 00:22:40,175 --> 00:22:42,592 It wasn't Armand. 178 00:22:43,717 --> 00:22:45,675 - Are you kidding? - No. 179 00:22:45,842 --> 00:22:48,842 Armand said he didn't do it. Jon's lying. 180 00:22:49,008 --> 00:22:52,342 I don't think we should accuse Jon of lying. 181 00:22:52,508 --> 00:22:57,092 Why? Armand says Jon's lying. You haven't talked to Armand. 182 00:22:57,258 --> 00:22:59,467 They have, Elisabeth. 183 00:22:59,633 --> 00:23:02,508 Listen, I'm very fond of Jon. 184 00:23:03,508 --> 00:23:08,133 And he's a very kind, 185 00:23:08,300 --> 00:23:10,467 curious 186 00:23:10,633 --> 00:23:14,008 and inventive boy. 187 00:23:15,258 --> 00:23:17,800 And yes... 188 00:23:17,967 --> 00:23:20,258 Maybe he's a bit confused. 189 00:23:24,425 --> 00:23:28,217 And you're absolutely certain that it was Armand? 190 00:23:28,383 --> 00:23:31,383 Yes. Honestly, Sunna. 191 00:23:31,550 --> 00:23:34,383 Yes, we're certain. 100 % certain. 192 00:23:34,550 --> 00:23:38,675 You know why? Because Jon's told us, you and your colleague. 193 00:23:38,842 --> 00:23:42,800 - And because you believe him. - He'd never lie about this. 194 00:23:42,967 --> 00:23:47,800 I think it's a disgrace that the school doesn't take it seriously. 195 00:23:47,967 --> 00:23:50,258 Armand isn't an easy child. 196 00:23:51,383 --> 00:23:55,217 One more thing: Jon says that when he visits you, 197 00:23:55,383 --> 00:23:59,217 you walk about naked and hug him all the time. 198 00:23:59,383 --> 00:24:04,675 - What? Where did that come from? - Let's try to stick to the facts here. 199 00:24:04,842 --> 00:24:09,508 Our son has potentially been exposed to trauma and injury... 200 00:24:09,675 --> 00:24:14,258 But we don't know anything. You're using a child's statements 201 00:24:14,425 --> 00:24:18,300 to make unacceptable allegations. We know nothing! 202 00:24:18,467 --> 00:24:23,342 A child's testimony is enough to imprison an adult for twenty years. 203 00:24:23,508 --> 00:24:28,883 It's difficult to prove. You keep presenting new allegations. 204 00:24:29,050 --> 00:24:33,967 How can we relate to that? It's nonsense. You talk about nudity. 205 00:24:34,133 --> 00:24:38,467 - This is not getting us anywhere. - Complete nonsense. 206 00:24:38,633 --> 00:24:42,592 - Like I run around naked? - I think we... Elisabeth? 207 00:24:42,758 --> 00:24:47,300 I think we should take a short break now to calm down. I must... 208 00:24:47,467 --> 00:24:51,342 I must remind you that this is an issue we need to resolve 209 00:24:51,508 --> 00:24:55,217 for Armand's and Jon's sake, for both of them. 210 00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:02,675 Elisabeth? 211 00:25:02,842 --> 00:25:04,883 I don't know. 212 00:25:20,675 --> 00:25:25,092 Where are the others? The principal, school nurse, inspector? 213 00:25:25,258 --> 00:25:29,050 It's okay. Let's not blow this out of proportion. 214 00:25:33,842 --> 00:25:35,883 So... 215 00:25:37,175 --> 00:25:39,217 Let's take five. 216 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,633 Sunna? Sunna, could you just... 217 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,175 Just wait a moment. 218 00:25:57,592 --> 00:26:00,967 I must ask the school to take this seriously. 219 00:26:01,133 --> 00:26:04,675 But we do, Sarah. Really. I promise. 220 00:26:04,842 --> 00:26:08,592 It doesn't seem as if Elisabeth can absorb this. 221 00:26:08,758 --> 00:26:14,175 I realise we need to be considerate to her the way things are now. 222 00:26:14,342 --> 00:26:21,258 But it doesn't feel right to let her just sit there and deny what has happened. 223 00:26:21,425 --> 00:26:26,592 Maybe the room could have been arranged differently, or someone else could have 224 00:26:26,758 --> 00:26:31,550 been present to emphasize the understanding of how serious this is. 225 00:26:31,717 --> 00:26:34,925 - Yes, uh... - Right. 226 00:26:35,092 --> 00:26:37,217 Yeah. 227 00:26:37,383 --> 00:26:42,467 - How's it going? - Well, it... 228 00:26:42,633 --> 00:26:46,342 It's not going too well. 229 00:26:46,508 --> 00:26:48,300 No? 230 00:26:48,467 --> 00:26:53,217 Well, it's difficult. But we're making progress, I think. 231 00:26:53,383 --> 00:26:55,425 Yeah. 232 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:01,550 - May I have a moment alone with Sunna? - Absolutely. 233 00:27:01,717 --> 00:27:06,592 But I must repeat what I said to her. I hope the school takes this seriously. 234 00:27:06,758 --> 00:27:09,258 Yes, naturally. 235 00:27:22,300 --> 00:27:25,425 Hey, it'll be okay. They do disagree. 236 00:27:25,592 --> 00:27:30,842 Elisabeth struggles to grasp what's happened, but that's understandable. 237 00:27:31,008 --> 00:27:35,383 She's sensitive. Sarah and Anders are less forthcoming... 238 00:27:35,550 --> 00:27:39,800 - Hush! - They need to talk, listen to each other. 239 00:27:39,967 --> 00:27:43,675 We'll get there. I'm certain I can handle this. 240 00:27:43,842 --> 00:27:50,550 The situation will escalate if you come in now. Of course there's tension. 241 00:27:50,717 --> 00:27:53,175 But I've got it covered. 242 00:27:55,258 --> 00:27:57,842 I think we should join you now. 243 00:27:59,467 --> 00:28:01,508 Okay. 244 00:29:59,425 --> 00:30:01,342 Hi. 245 00:30:01,508 --> 00:30:03,633 More people, huh? 246 00:30:07,342 --> 00:30:12,092 - The chairs have been moved. Why? - So we could sit a bit closer. 247 00:30:12,258 --> 00:30:15,633 - Good idea. - Please sit down, Elisabeth. 248 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,383 Yes, I'll sit down now. 249 00:30:18,550 --> 00:30:20,467 There. 250 00:30:20,633 --> 00:30:24,217 Now we're present. All of us. 251 00:30:24,383 --> 00:30:28,800 I must first apologise on behalf of the school that Ajsa and I 252 00:30:28,967 --> 00:30:31,717 haven't been present from the start. 253 00:30:31,883 --> 00:30:37,175 Sunna is one of our best junior teachers, and we have full confidence in her. 254 00:30:37,342 --> 00:30:39,508 And we... 255 00:30:39,675 --> 00:30:44,383 But now that we all are here, all of us may contribute. 256 00:30:44,550 --> 00:30:47,717 Yes? Agreed? 257 00:30:49,008 --> 00:30:50,800 Let's see... 258 00:30:52,050 --> 00:30:54,300 Okay, to the point. 259 00:30:54,467 --> 00:31:00,800 The school has had to speak with Armand a couple of times before due to 260 00:31:00,967 --> 00:31:05,633 some reckless interaction with other pupils. 261 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,467 But nothing has been serious enough to make an issue of. 262 00:31:10,633 --> 00:31:14,467 Maybe we should have seen this coming in hindsight. 263 00:31:14,633 --> 00:31:19,133 But these incidents were not this serious. 264 00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:22,800 But is...? I don't understand. 265 00:31:22,967 --> 00:31:26,467 Is this allegation built on earlier events? 266 00:31:26,633 --> 00:31:32,800 No, this allegation, or incident, is built on what I hope Sunna has told you. 267 00:31:32,967 --> 00:31:38,508 - Yes, I've told them all I know. - I thought it would be best to tell you. 268 00:31:38,675 --> 00:31:42,800 There's been some uncertainty about whether it was Armand. 269 00:31:42,967 --> 00:31:45,592 I think the facts point to this. 270 00:31:45,758 --> 00:31:50,717 Because Armand has been reckless with other pupils? I don't get it. 271 00:31:50,883 --> 00:31:55,258 Of course that has nothing to do with this incident. 272 00:31:55,425 --> 00:32:01,675 No, this is self-criticism on our part. We should have addressed Armand earlier. 273 00:32:01,842 --> 00:32:04,050 Okay, so... 274 00:32:05,383 --> 00:32:08,967 He's done lots of stuff you haven't told me about? 275 00:32:09,133 --> 00:32:13,133 Not a lot, but some things. Hence the self-criticism. 276 00:32:16,467 --> 00:32:21,175 I mean, it's no secret that for example Jon has felt uncomfortable 277 00:32:21,342 --> 00:32:24,133 around Armand sometimes. 278 00:32:24,842 --> 00:32:27,633 - That's new to me. - It's not. 279 00:32:30,467 --> 00:32:32,425 Okay. Okay. 280 00:32:32,592 --> 00:32:36,883 So every time Jon has come home to us, every time 281 00:32:37,050 --> 00:32:43,175 you've had to work late, and I've let Jon come home to us, 282 00:32:43,342 --> 00:32:47,092 made him dinner, helped him with his homework, 283 00:32:47,258 --> 00:32:51,425 he's been sent into an intolerable hell? I mean... 284 00:32:51,592 --> 00:32:56,925 You can say a lot about me as a mother, but they send their child into fear. 285 00:32:57,092 --> 00:33:02,175 - You don't have to be so dramatic. - He's an active and sociable boy. 286 00:33:02,342 --> 00:33:06,425 And yes, he's excitable, like any child that age. 287 00:33:06,592 --> 00:33:09,383 What's wrong with playing doctor? 288 00:33:09,550 --> 00:33:15,425 Well, in our opinion, playing doctor belongs in kindergarten. 289 00:33:15,592 --> 00:33:19,800 - Okay, maybe. - And Jon and Armand often play together 290 00:33:19,967 --> 00:33:23,467 without any problems. And that's a good thing. 291 00:33:23,633 --> 00:33:27,967 - Thank you, Sunna. - There have been situations with him. 292 00:33:28,133 --> 00:33:31,633 "Situations"? You keep changing the story. 293 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,217 It's a disgrace that I haven't been told before. 294 00:33:35,383 --> 00:33:38,300 Why are we only listening to them? 295 00:33:38,467 --> 00:33:43,133 Jon has come home to us maybe forty times the past six months. 296 00:33:43,300 --> 00:33:46,508 Something doesn't sound right. It feels like 297 00:33:46,675 --> 00:33:50,967 you've judged both Armand and me in advance. 298 00:33:52,550 --> 00:33:57,008 And I... I honestly don't understand what we're doing here. 299 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,883 Going on like this? 300 00:34:03,008 --> 00:34:06,925 With young children involved? He's just a little boy! 301 00:34:07,092 --> 00:34:09,217 This is... 302 00:34:11,925 --> 00:34:13,967 Oh dear. 303 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,800 - Wow. Are you okay? - Yeah. 304 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,592 It will be over in a moment. I have some tissue in my pocket. 305 00:34:25,675 --> 00:34:29,050 We hear what you're saying, Elisabeth. 306 00:34:33,092 --> 00:34:35,217 Let me see... 307 00:34:43,092 --> 00:34:46,050 - I mean, please go on. - But... 308 00:34:46,217 --> 00:34:49,508 Oops. Dammit. I'm sorry. 309 00:34:49,675 --> 00:34:52,133 Go on. It'll stop soon. 310 00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:54,883 Please just continue. 311 00:35:01,592 --> 00:35:05,633 - There. It's over. - Right. 312 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:12,217 So we wish to present a plan of action that'll accommodate everyone's interests. 313 00:35:12,383 --> 00:35:14,758 Ajsa, could you just... 314 00:35:20,675 --> 00:35:26,008 Because this is about two children the same age, 315 00:35:26,175 --> 00:35:31,008 it's also about prevention so that it doesn't happen again. 316 00:35:31,175 --> 00:35:37,842 The aim of this meeting is to start a dialogue, as we are doing now. 317 00:35:38,008 --> 00:35:42,592 But we must also remember that this is serious. 318 00:35:42,758 --> 00:35:46,342 If this information proves to be right, 319 00:35:46,508 --> 00:35:52,592 then we will have to implement certain measures. 320 00:35:52,758 --> 00:35:57,800 But these situations are difficult when the children are young, 321 00:35:57,967 --> 00:36:02,717 and the events are difficult to prove. 322 00:36:03,842 --> 00:36:06,217 Oh, excuse me. 323 00:36:06,383 --> 00:36:10,133 I think... I'm afraid I must go to the bathroom. 324 00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:13,342 - Do you need help? - No, please go on. 325 00:36:13,508 --> 00:36:16,800 - I think you need to be here. - I know, but... 326 00:36:16,967 --> 00:36:19,675 You can see that's difficult now. 327 00:37:13,008 --> 00:37:15,967 I mean, Elisabeth is an actor. 328 00:37:18,842 --> 00:37:23,050 It's more or less her job to make herself interesting. 329 00:37:24,217 --> 00:37:26,717 Make her life into a story. 330 00:37:26,883 --> 00:37:29,508 Create drama around herself. 331 00:37:30,633 --> 00:37:33,425 Do anything to attract attention. 332 00:37:37,383 --> 00:37:39,342 I just need to say... 333 00:37:39,508 --> 00:37:42,217 Jarle knows what you're saying. 334 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,967 Right? 335 00:37:48,925 --> 00:37:52,175 There's been some publicity around her. 336 00:37:52,342 --> 00:37:55,800 I just have to say you mustn't be naive. 337 00:37:55,967 --> 00:37:58,675 And remember her history. 338 00:37:58,842 --> 00:38:05,383 I'm sure you understand, Sarah, that I can only comment on the current situation. 339 00:38:05,550 --> 00:38:10,717 Armand repeatedly showed his penis to the other children in kindergarten. 340 00:38:10,883 --> 00:38:14,258 I'm sorry. I need to use the bathroom. 341 00:38:14,425 --> 00:38:17,967 I hope we may continue when I return. 342 00:38:29,008 --> 00:38:31,050 Yeah. 343 00:38:36,342 --> 00:38:41,133 I have to apologise about Ajsa. I'm afraid it's beyond my control. 344 00:38:43,217 --> 00:38:45,633 Yeah. 345 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,758 - This is hard. - Yeah, it's hard. 346 00:38:48,925 --> 00:38:51,008 Obviously. 347 00:38:51,175 --> 00:38:56,967 It's a pity about Sarah and Elisabeth. They used to be such great friends. 348 00:38:57,133 --> 00:39:01,717 Yes, but I thought they still got along quite well. 349 00:39:02,842 --> 00:39:05,383 After what happened to Thomas? 350 00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:13,883 - It was... a tragic accident. - Anyway... 351 00:39:14,050 --> 00:39:16,175 Everything fell apart. 352 00:39:17,092 --> 00:39:22,258 Sarah has good intentions. She wants to help Elisabeth, and not least Armand. 353 00:39:22,425 --> 00:39:26,508 After all, he's her nephew. Mine as well. 354 00:39:28,633 --> 00:39:32,633 But Armand's probably been raised unconventionally. 355 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,967 Or he's acting something out. I don't know. 356 00:39:37,133 --> 00:39:42,008 - That's not for me to speculate about. - No, it's not speculation, just... 357 00:39:42,175 --> 00:39:45,842 - We're all different, right? - You don't say? 358 00:39:46,008 --> 00:39:49,217 It was hard for Elisabeth afterwards. 359 00:39:49,383 --> 00:39:52,300 Being alone and... You know? 360 00:39:52,467 --> 00:39:55,300 The way her career suddenly ended. 361 00:39:58,467 --> 00:40:05,425 I'm not sure this wavering and uncertainty is helpful when you're that vulnerable. 362 00:40:05,592 --> 00:40:09,842 - Like I said, it's not my call. - No. But it seems reasonable. 363 00:40:10,008 --> 00:40:16,717 Irrespective of that, my main concern... is that it doesn't happen again. 364 00:40:16,883 --> 00:40:21,425 That we don't have a strong boy who forces himself upon others. 365 00:40:24,133 --> 00:40:26,175 I got it. 366 00:40:32,592 --> 00:40:35,258 Okay. 367 00:40:35,425 --> 00:40:37,467 Fine. 368 00:40:48,092 --> 00:40:50,467 What a fuck-face. 369 00:41:36,967 --> 00:41:41,842 - I didn't mean to disturb you. - No, I'm just trying to cool down. 370 00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:53,425 It's very refreshing. 371 00:44:15,675 --> 00:44:18,925 - Hey, we should get back. - Yeah. 372 00:44:26,592 --> 00:44:28,633 My god, it's so hot. 373 00:44:31,925 --> 00:44:35,508 I remember reading a book at school many years ago. 374 00:44:35,675 --> 00:44:39,383 One character had nosebleed caused by leukaemia. 375 00:44:39,550 --> 00:44:43,008 - Leukaemia?! - Jeez, not that you have it. 376 00:44:43,175 --> 00:44:46,342 It was a pretty lousy book. 377 00:44:48,050 --> 00:44:51,800 But maybe you should check that everything's okay. 378 00:44:51,967 --> 00:44:54,883 - Sure. - What do you think happened? 379 00:44:55,050 --> 00:44:59,717 How should I know? A little nosebleed sometimes is normal. 380 00:44:59,883 --> 00:45:05,383 - No, I mean... Do you think Armand did it? - All that? I honestly don't know. 381 00:45:05,550 --> 00:45:10,342 The way Elisabeth is handling it is actually quite impressive. 382 00:45:11,175 --> 00:45:14,800 The timing of this has been outside our control. 383 00:45:14,967 --> 00:45:20,467 It's overshadowed the end-of-term celebration for the children. 384 00:45:20,633 --> 00:45:26,508 But that said, we believe it is important to take this situation seriously. 385 00:45:26,675 --> 00:45:31,800 We take pride in promoting health, enjoyment and learning at this school, 386 00:45:31,967 --> 00:45:35,592 and creating a safe environment for all the children. 387 00:45:35,758 --> 00:45:41,592 As we said, we wish to implement measures to ensure this does not happen again. 388 00:45:41,758 --> 00:45:45,050 Fortunately we have procedures for this. 389 00:45:45,217 --> 00:45:47,592 - Ajsa? - Right. 390 00:45:50,175 --> 00:45:54,258 We do not wish to put the blame on Armand. 391 00:45:55,383 --> 00:46:00,508 When these things happen, it's usually an expression of something else. 392 00:46:00,675 --> 00:46:05,592 It might be stress, it might be anxiety or anger. 393 00:46:05,758 --> 00:46:10,300 So what we wish to do involves both boys. 394 00:46:10,467 --> 00:46:16,258 Later we wish to speak to each of you and suggest some individual measures. 395 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,508 In general, I would like to say it may be wise 396 00:46:21,675 --> 00:46:25,383 to review what sort of routines one has at home, 397 00:46:25,550 --> 00:46:31,508 and how to be better at not involving the children in issues between adults. 398 00:46:36,758 --> 00:46:40,425 - Right. Sorry. - But now and in the immediate future, 399 00:46:40,592 --> 00:46:44,217 we believe it would be wise 400 00:46:44,383 --> 00:46:48,258 to keep Jon and Armand separate. 401 00:46:48,425 --> 00:46:52,758 We already have an assistant in class for this, someone who may 402 00:46:52,925 --> 00:46:57,508 keep an eye on them, follow them to the toilet, changing room etc. 403 00:47:00,217 --> 00:47:02,258 Sorry. I'm sorry. 404 00:47:02,425 --> 00:47:04,967 Sorry. 405 00:47:05,133 --> 00:47:10,425 Right, there may be many reasons why children act out something. 406 00:47:10,592 --> 00:47:12,967 We will absolutely not... 407 00:47:15,842 --> 00:47:21,800 If you could restrain yourself until we're done, then everyone can go home. 408 00:47:22,925 --> 00:47:25,133 - Sure. - Good. 409 00:47:26,258 --> 00:47:30,967 But it might be an idea to ask the class 410 00:47:31,133 --> 00:47:33,592 what to do instead of fighting. 411 00:47:47,258 --> 00:47:50,633 This is actually not very funny. 412 00:48:00,092 --> 00:48:04,592 - That sounds good. - The question is whether it's enough. 413 00:48:04,758 --> 00:48:08,050 And what time frame do you imagine? 414 00:48:19,592 --> 00:48:21,633 Sorry. 415 00:48:37,717 --> 00:48:40,675 - She's doing it again. - Stop it. 416 00:48:53,425 --> 00:48:57,217 - Are you okay, Elisabeth? - Yeah. I'm okay. 417 00:48:57,383 --> 00:48:59,467 I'm okay. I'm okay. 418 00:49:09,217 --> 00:49:11,508 Please stop it, Elisabeth. 419 00:49:12,550 --> 00:49:14,592 Stop it. 420 00:49:16,175 --> 00:49:18,217 That's enough. 421 00:49:23,175 --> 00:49:27,508 Okay, Sarah. Should we talk about Jon first, before we... 422 00:49:27,675 --> 00:49:30,633 But these... These are... 423 00:49:34,717 --> 00:49:37,217 These are... These... 424 00:49:38,508 --> 00:49:40,550 These... 425 00:49:47,717 --> 00:49:49,758 These are just... 426 00:49:54,842 --> 00:49:58,050 These are 427 00:49:58,217 --> 00:50:00,883 general measures. 428 00:50:01,050 --> 00:50:05,592 I'd like to know what the individual measures are. 429 00:50:05,758 --> 00:50:08,550 Okay, Elisabeth... 430 00:50:20,092 --> 00:50:23,842 Stop it, Elisabeth. Stop it! 431 00:50:36,550 --> 00:50:38,592 Stop. 432 00:50:46,342 --> 00:50:48,383 Right. 433 00:50:55,633 --> 00:50:59,008 Elisabeth, this isn't funny. 434 00:51:01,842 --> 00:51:06,092 Don't look at me. Don't look at me! 435 00:51:26,508 --> 00:51:29,300 - This really isn't funny. - No, but... 436 00:51:29,467 --> 00:51:34,008 But then we... Then we have to go through... 437 00:51:34,175 --> 00:51:37,092 Then we have to go through the list. 438 00:51:37,258 --> 00:51:42,008 We have to get through the list... of the measures. 439 00:51:42,175 --> 00:51:45,092 - How many individual... - Sure. 440 00:51:45,258 --> 00:51:49,800 How many individual measures are there? What must I do? 441 00:51:49,967 --> 00:51:52,758 I can give you a list. 442 00:53:32,758 --> 00:53:34,800 - Hey... - Don't! 443 00:54:19,758 --> 00:54:22,383 Right. 444 00:54:22,550 --> 00:54:26,342 Maybe we should wrap this up now. 445 00:54:28,675 --> 00:54:30,717 Again. 446 00:54:32,258 --> 00:54:34,925 Again. 447 00:54:35,092 --> 00:54:37,717 Again? 448 00:54:38,425 --> 00:54:42,008 - She's doing it again. - What? 449 00:54:42,175 --> 00:54:44,425 That stuff. 450 00:54:47,175 --> 00:54:49,467 It's not on purpose. 451 00:54:51,550 --> 00:54:53,592 Yes, it is. 452 00:55:52,508 --> 00:55:54,425 Sunna? 453 00:55:54,592 --> 00:55:56,925 Hi. 454 00:56:05,008 --> 00:56:07,133 Are you okay? 455 00:56:08,342 --> 00:56:12,092 Yeah, we're just having a meeting. 456 00:56:12,258 --> 00:56:14,425 - Now? - Yeah, or... 457 00:56:14,592 --> 00:56:20,258 We've been at it for a while. Jarle and Ajsa are also present. 458 00:56:21,425 --> 00:56:23,467 Okay? 459 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,758 What's up? 460 00:56:30,342 --> 00:56:33,800 Well, nothing. Just been a long day. 461 00:56:35,133 --> 00:56:37,175 Okay. 462 00:56:42,758 --> 00:56:46,425 I regret this whole end-of-term celebration. 463 00:56:46,592 --> 00:56:50,675 It's supposed to be casual, but some parents are offended 464 00:56:50,842 --> 00:56:55,133 because I showed "Frozen" in class, which has a PG-rating. 465 00:56:59,925 --> 00:57:02,550 It's Armand again. 466 00:57:02,717 --> 00:57:06,217 The meeting now, and... 467 00:57:06,383 --> 00:57:08,508 Elisabeth... 468 00:57:10,342 --> 00:57:12,550 Just lost it. 469 00:57:17,675 --> 00:57:19,717 Hello? 470 00:57:36,425 --> 00:57:38,800 I'm just a bit upset. 471 00:57:39,842 --> 00:57:41,883 It's not a big thing. 472 00:57:50,258 --> 00:57:53,842 I just needed to hear your voice. 473 00:57:57,967 --> 00:58:00,008 Okay. 474 00:58:20,383 --> 00:58:22,425 Are you okay? 475 00:58:24,967 --> 00:58:26,592 Yeah. 476 00:58:26,758 --> 00:58:28,967 Just fine. 477 00:58:32,008 --> 00:58:34,967 - Are you okay? - Yeah. 478 00:58:35,133 --> 00:58:37,092 Good. 479 00:59:04,758 --> 00:59:06,717 - Hi! - Are you here? 480 00:59:06,883 --> 00:59:08,925 Yes, hi. 481 00:59:13,467 --> 00:59:16,342 - How is Armand? - He's fine. 482 00:59:20,883 --> 00:59:22,883 Hi! 483 00:59:31,967 --> 00:59:35,258 - Wednesdays. You're next. - Okay. 484 00:59:35,425 --> 00:59:38,717 Is that true? How wonderful! 485 01:00:00,550 --> 01:00:02,592 May I ask you a question? 486 01:00:05,550 --> 01:00:07,592 But don't tell anyone. 487 01:00:07,758 --> 01:00:10,133 Sure. What is it? 488 01:00:11,925 --> 01:00:15,342 - Promise? - Sure. 489 01:00:15,508 --> 01:00:18,300 I'm scared. 490 01:00:22,258 --> 01:00:25,842 I'm so afraid that Armand has seen things. 491 01:00:26,967 --> 01:00:29,008 Seen what? 492 01:00:30,758 --> 01:00:32,800 One time... 493 01:00:34,925 --> 01:00:37,467 When Thomas... 494 01:00:37,633 --> 01:00:40,217 You know? 495 01:00:40,383 --> 01:00:42,800 He was so angry. 496 01:00:49,175 --> 01:00:50,925 I think Armand was awake. 497 01:00:55,592 --> 01:00:57,883 I saw him in the doorway. 498 01:01:01,092 --> 01:01:03,050 Thomas kept on beating me. 499 01:01:38,508 --> 01:01:40,675 Is that what happened? 500 01:01:40,842 --> 01:01:42,967 No. 501 01:01:43,133 --> 01:01:46,592 Or yes. Something along those lines. 502 01:01:46,758 --> 01:01:50,467 Did he do it? Stick his penis into Jon's ass? 503 01:01:50,633 --> 01:01:54,092 No, | don't think so. But... 504 01:01:54,258 --> 01:01:57,300 Jon's pants were off, so what do I know? 505 01:02:02,633 --> 01:02:04,925 Faizal, hey. This... 506 01:02:05,092 --> 01:02:08,008 This... Hey, this came out wrong. 507 01:02:08,175 --> 01:02:12,008 We don't know how serious or harmless this is, okay? 508 01:02:12,175 --> 01:02:16,425 Some say that it's serious, others say it's not. 509 01:02:16,592 --> 01:02:21,467 Then there's the language used. "Anal", for example. I mean... 510 01:02:21,633 --> 01:02:27,258 A child wouldn't use language like that, words like that, you know? 511 01:02:27,425 --> 01:02:30,425 So that's surely not what happened. 512 01:02:30,592 --> 01:02:32,967 Or pretty surely, anyway. 513 01:02:35,383 --> 01:02:37,758 The other parents are coming. 514 01:02:37,925 --> 01:02:42,758 I was just getting these sheets. I need a moment to prepare. 515 01:02:42,925 --> 01:02:47,092 Uh, Faizal? Don't say anything. This must stay between us. 516 01:02:47,258 --> 01:02:52,550 I just needed someone to talk to. I was frustrated, and I exaggerated. 517 01:02:53,675 --> 01:02:59,300 Maybe Armand should be somewhere where they can handle things like this. 518 01:02:59,467 --> 01:03:02,133 I mean, it sounds disturbed. 519 01:03:02,300 --> 01:03:04,342 Don't say anything. 520 01:03:16,508 --> 01:03:19,883 Fuck... Fuck! 521 01:03:31,842 --> 01:03:33,550 Oh, goddammit! 522 01:03:51,133 --> 01:03:53,175 Well, well. 523 01:03:55,425 --> 01:03:58,425 At least they've fixed the fire alarm. 524 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,217 Well, it's been a long day. 525 01:04:11,758 --> 01:04:14,425 Maybe we should wrap it up? 526 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:27,883 You were just a little girl. 527 01:04:30,175 --> 01:04:33,050 I think you'd just moved here. 528 01:04:41,967 --> 01:04:44,508 And there's Thomas. 529 01:04:46,550 --> 01:04:48,925 And there's me. 530 01:04:53,467 --> 01:04:55,925 He was a good boy, Thomas. 531 01:05:00,633 --> 01:05:03,467 They had a horrible relationship. 532 01:05:05,675 --> 01:05:08,675 - Who? - Thomas and Elisabeth. 533 01:05:11,217 --> 01:05:14,175 Well, living together can be tough. 534 01:05:14,342 --> 01:05:17,508 You can see that she's not easy. 535 01:05:17,675 --> 01:05:20,592 Nothing is ever her fault. 536 01:05:21,717 --> 01:05:24,175 I suppose she has challenges. 537 01:05:25,467 --> 01:05:27,508 "Challenges"? 538 01:05:29,633 --> 01:05:32,008 Do you call that challenges? 539 01:05:34,550 --> 01:05:36,925 I don't know any longer. 540 01:05:37,092 --> 01:05:40,300 We have to be tolerant of everything now. 541 01:05:40,467 --> 01:05:44,133 Yeah, we can't say or do anything. Right? 542 01:05:46,300 --> 01:05:51,008 There's a difference between tolerance and irresponsibility. 543 01:05:54,092 --> 01:05:58,467 - Agreed? - Yeah, sure. Sure. But... 544 01:05:58,633 --> 01:06:03,550 Elisabeth was away all the time. Travelling. Partying. 545 01:06:03,717 --> 01:06:07,133 Met all sorts of misfits. Took them home. 546 01:06:07,300 --> 01:06:10,717 Wasted her money. Should you tolerate that? 547 01:06:10,883 --> 01:06:14,092 Who knows what went on there back then. 548 01:06:15,967 --> 01:06:21,633 Thomas was there. For the family. For Armand. So were we, of course. 549 01:06:23,342 --> 01:06:29,050 But then Thomas stopped thinking about himself, about his own needs. 550 01:06:29,217 --> 01:06:31,842 And then... 551 01:06:32,008 --> 01:06:35,508 The outcome was probably inevitable. 552 01:06:36,550 --> 01:06:39,050 He was completely exhausted. 553 01:06:42,008 --> 01:06:45,092 An accident? As if. 554 01:06:47,967 --> 01:06:53,550 - What are you saying? - Elisabeth lies constantly. Can't help it. 555 01:06:53,717 --> 01:06:58,050 But we can't let Armand suffer the same fate as my brother. 556 01:06:59,508 --> 01:07:05,342 What'll happen to Armand if everyone goes on ignoring what's happening around him? 557 01:07:05,508 --> 01:07:09,050 It'll be bad for everyone if this gets out. 558 01:07:09,217 --> 01:07:13,925 And I'm not saying I want it to have unfair consequences for... 559 01:07:15,592 --> 01:07:18,175 Elisabeth. I feel for her. 560 01:07:19,300 --> 01:07:24,883 It was I, or rather we, who wanted to give her a chance. 561 01:07:25,050 --> 01:07:27,800 Wanted dialogue. But her behaviour... 562 01:07:27,967 --> 01:07:31,258 What more do you need to see? 563 01:07:55,967 --> 01:07:59,050 Ajsa... Sunna... 564 01:07:59,217 --> 01:08:01,300 Ajsa... 565 01:08:04,008 --> 01:08:07,008 "Where are" 566 01:08:07,175 --> 01:08:09,217 you?" 567 01:11:11,342 --> 01:11:15,508 What are Sarah and the others talking about? 568 01:11:15,675 --> 01:11:20,008 Sarah, Elisabeth and... What are they talking about? 569 01:11:20,175 --> 01:11:21,967 Uh... 570 01:11:22,133 --> 01:11:25,842 Well, they're having a meeting right now. 571 01:11:28,842 --> 01:11:33,342 Because something's happened with the boys, Jon and Armand. 572 01:11:33,508 --> 01:11:35,342 Oh. 573 01:11:35,508 --> 01:11:38,092 So, but... 574 01:11:38,258 --> 01:11:41,425 What is it? 575 01:11:41,592 --> 01:11:45,467 - What's happened? - Yeah. Is it serious? 576 01:11:48,633 --> 01:11:50,508 Uh... 577 01:12:27,592 --> 01:12:31,342 - It wasn't an accident. - What wasn't? 578 01:12:31,925 --> 01:12:35,342 Thomas. It was no accident. 579 01:12:36,467 --> 01:12:38,883 It was suicide. 580 01:12:39,050 --> 01:12:43,008 I should have seen it. Why didn't I see it? I saw nothing. 581 01:12:43,175 --> 01:12:45,675 Poor Armand. 582 01:12:45,842 --> 01:12:49,508 But what does that have to do with this issue? 583 01:12:49,675 --> 01:12:52,175 We have to be rational, Sunna. 584 01:12:53,175 --> 01:12:57,425 So we have to consider the circumstantial evidence. 585 01:12:57,592 --> 01:13:00,425 Maybe it's a cry for help from Armand? 586 01:13:01,508 --> 01:13:04,550 We have to act before this escalates. 587 01:13:09,758 --> 01:13:12,342 - Oh, it's you. - Are you okay? 588 01:13:12,508 --> 01:13:14,550 Yeah. 589 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,175 Sorry for crying. How awkward. 590 01:14:02,675 --> 01:14:06,133 These are speculations. It's not for us to speculate. 591 01:14:06,300 --> 01:14:09,008 Don't be so naive, Sunna. 592 01:14:09,175 --> 01:14:14,008 I know you admire Elisabeth, but this is about child welfare. 593 01:14:14,175 --> 01:14:16,717 I don't admire Elisabeth. 594 01:14:16,883 --> 01:14:21,550 As for the child welfare service... We don't know the facts. 595 01:14:21,717 --> 01:14:25,842 Ajsa is right. We may have to involve the police. 596 01:14:26,967 --> 01:14:29,800 We can't just postpone the problem. 597 01:14:41,467 --> 01:14:44,258 Why are you looking at me like that? 598 01:14:50,925 --> 01:14:52,967 Sunna? 599 01:14:54,633 --> 01:14:56,592 Uh... 600 01:14:56,758 --> 01:14:59,717 What do you think about this? 601 01:14:59,883 --> 01:15:02,925 I have a feeling that... 602 01:15:03,092 --> 01:15:05,133 I... 603 01:15:07,300 --> 01:15:10,050 You can just say it. I mean... 604 01:15:10,217 --> 01:15:13,008 It's okay in any case. 605 01:15:13,175 --> 01:15:15,217 I... 606 01:15:17,883 --> 01:15:20,508 I believe you. 607 01:15:39,258 --> 01:15:41,508 I'm sorry. 608 01:15:42,633 --> 01:15:44,675 Why do you apologise? 609 01:15:47,050 --> 01:15:49,842 We have to get back. 610 01:15:55,050 --> 01:15:59,300 I'll see you in there, Elisabeth. 611 01:16:17,383 --> 01:16:19,425 Wait. Don't go in there. 612 01:16:20,550 --> 01:16:24,925 - I have to get our stuff. - We... We're not going home yet. 613 01:16:25,092 --> 01:16:29,758 - They have to talk to Elisabeth. - To Elisabeth? Why? 614 01:16:29,925 --> 01:16:33,175 Is she alone with them? 615 01:16:33,342 --> 01:16:36,717 - Hasn't it gone too far, Sarah? - Not here. 616 01:17:26,092 --> 01:17:28,967 What do you mean by "gone too far"? 617 01:17:30,592 --> 01:17:33,425 This is important. 618 01:17:33,592 --> 01:17:35,883 Think about Jon. 619 01:17:44,508 --> 01:17:46,967 She's in a bad state. 620 01:17:49,550 --> 01:17:52,008 So you're thinking about her? 621 01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,967 - No. - Have you talked to her? 622 01:18:00,717 --> 01:18:04,508 I just don't see why we need to push this further. 623 01:18:07,133 --> 01:18:09,592 Push what further? 624 01:18:12,175 --> 01:18:16,675 I'm doing this to help Jon. 625 01:18:16,842 --> 01:18:19,633 I'm trying to help Armand too. 626 01:18:21,050 --> 01:18:23,092 Yeah. 627 01:18:25,092 --> 01:18:28,842 Now they're going to discuss this together. 628 01:18:29,008 --> 01:18:32,342 Elisabeth will get all the help she needs. 629 01:18:32,508 --> 01:18:37,342 Armand and Jon will get help. This is good. It's as it should be. 630 01:18:50,925 --> 01:18:53,967 I don't know why you think about her. 631 01:18:57,758 --> 01:19:01,883 - Maybe we should give her a break? - This is about Jon. 632 01:19:02,050 --> 01:19:04,675 But you're thinking about her. 633 01:19:11,592 --> 01:19:13,633 Hey? 634 01:19:17,508 --> 01:19:19,550 What? 635 01:19:24,008 --> 01:19:26,508 This... 636 01:19:26,675 --> 01:19:28,717 What? 637 01:19:30,842 --> 01:19:32,883 Tell me what it is. 638 01:19:48,300 --> 01:19:50,842 What are you doing? 639 01:19:51,008 --> 01:19:53,133 What does that mean? 640 01:19:55,133 --> 01:19:58,717 It's what Jon did when I asked what had happened. 641 01:20:00,967 --> 01:20:03,008 Okay? 642 01:20:04,258 --> 01:20:06,758 - And that was all. - Huh? 643 01:20:06,925 --> 01:20:09,592 That was all he did. 644 01:20:09,758 --> 01:20:12,508 What are you talking about? 645 01:20:12,675 --> 01:20:15,425 It's not true. 646 01:20:15,592 --> 01:20:20,633 But that's not what you told me, not at all what Jon told me. 647 01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,800 You described what had happened! 648 01:20:23,967 --> 01:20:28,217 - You repeated everything Jon said! - know what I said. 649 01:20:28,383 --> 01:20:31,300 - I panicked. - Hey? 650 01:20:39,842 --> 01:20:42,300 Jon said very little to me. 651 01:20:46,633 --> 01:20:49,925 But Jon was very clear when he spoke to me. 652 01:20:53,508 --> 01:20:55,550 Armand hit Jon. 653 01:20:57,008 --> 01:21:00,883 And this means the other thing. 654 01:21:09,467 --> 01:21:15,633 But how did you put the question to Jon? Did you ask him about what I'd told you? 655 01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,967 Or did he say it himself, in his own words? 656 01:21:25,550 --> 01:21:27,592 That's irrelevant. 657 01:21:29,675 --> 01:21:33,717 I need to be completely honest with you, Elisabeth. 658 01:21:37,675 --> 01:21:41,133 We must take Jon's experience seriously. 659 01:21:42,967 --> 01:21:46,592 What actually happened is less important. 660 01:21:46,758 --> 01:21:49,508 What happened doesn't matter? 661 01:21:49,675 --> 01:21:52,050 It's not the key issue. 662 01:21:52,217 --> 01:21:56,217 What Jarle is trying to say, is that whatever a child does 663 01:21:56,383 --> 01:21:59,050 is an expression of something. 664 01:21:59,217 --> 01:22:03,300 Even when they're lying, they're trying to tell us something. 665 01:22:03,467 --> 01:22:08,508 In theory, this incident would require 666 01:22:08,675 --> 01:22:13,633 that we alerted the child welfare service and the police. 667 01:22:16,092 --> 01:22:18,592 We don't wish to involve... 668 01:22:18,758 --> 01:22:23,258 We certainly don't wish to involve the police, but... 669 01:22:23,425 --> 01:22:28,008 Now we basically have a legal obligation to relate to this. 670 01:22:35,300 --> 01:22:38,592 Dear Elisabeth, how can we help you? 671 01:22:42,092 --> 01:22:44,175 Well, uh... 672 01:22:44,342 --> 01:22:48,508 I'm not really sure what this is. 673 01:23:01,925 --> 01:23:04,342 I didn't realise it was... 674 01:23:05,467 --> 01:23:08,592 It was this dire, that... 675 01:23:12,092 --> 01:23:16,425 I had no idea. The police, child welfare service. Is it... 676 01:23:21,383 --> 01:23:24,842 I mean, it's just a game that got out of hand. 677 01:23:31,883 --> 01:23:36,342 Sure, but if there are issues at home... 678 01:23:36,925 --> 01:23:39,008 I mean, Armand... 679 01:23:39,175 --> 01:23:43,717 It must have been hard for him to lose his father, you and Armand... 680 01:23:43,883 --> 01:23:50,383 I can't even start to imagine. There's no reason to suspect anyone for that matter. 681 01:23:51,508 --> 01:23:54,217 It's not our job to investigate. 682 01:23:55,883 --> 01:24:00,425 And our goal has been to solve this together. 683 01:24:00,592 --> 01:24:04,550 And maybe it was the wrong approach. And maybe not. 684 01:24:06,300 --> 01:24:10,800 But I need you to realise the gravity of the situation. 685 01:24:13,008 --> 01:24:15,050 What do you want me to say? 686 01:24:21,883 --> 01:24:28,092 I've worked really hard to make things as good as possible 687 01:24:28,258 --> 01:24:31,967 for me and Armand. 688 01:24:32,133 --> 01:24:36,967 We understand that. You shouldn't blame yourself here. 689 01:24:37,133 --> 01:24:40,883 But accepting help has never hurt anyone. 690 01:24:41,758 --> 01:24:44,842 But I don't understand. 691 01:24:45,008 --> 01:24:47,633 I don't understand 692 01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:51,800 why the child welfare service needs to be involved. 693 01:24:56,883 --> 01:25:00,258 Because we're fine. Armand and I are fine. 694 01:25:03,467 --> 01:25:09,800 Yes, but it's no wonder things have been tough. Everyone will understand. 695 01:25:09,967 --> 01:25:14,258 Yes, you keep repeating that Armand has had a tough time. 696 01:25:15,383 --> 01:25:19,092 You talk about Thomas. I don't know what you mean. 697 01:25:20,675 --> 01:25:23,092 Because we're doing fine. 698 01:25:23,258 --> 01:25:26,967 Armand's doing fine. So what do you mean? 699 01:25:28,467 --> 01:25:30,508 He means nothing. 700 01:25:32,675 --> 01:25:36,633 - What do you mean? - It's obvious. 701 01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:38,800 Oh? Is it? 702 01:25:40,133 --> 01:25:45,550 All I mean is that when you lose someone, lose your father, it's tough. 703 01:25:45,717 --> 01:25:47,592 - Not for us. - Elisabeth... 704 01:25:52,383 --> 01:25:55,883 - Thomas... I knew Thomas. - No, you didn't. 705 01:25:57,008 --> 01:25:59,592 I was his teacher and everything. 706 01:25:59,758 --> 01:26:03,092 I was devastated when it happened. 707 01:26:03,258 --> 01:26:05,758 It was overwhelming. 708 01:26:05,925 --> 01:26:11,592 I've thought so much about you, about Armand, about the entire family. 709 01:26:11,758 --> 01:26:15,217 About how he died. 710 01:26:15,383 --> 01:26:17,592 That... 711 01:26:17,758 --> 01:26:20,800 That Thomas was in so much pain. 712 01:26:20,967 --> 01:26:25,133 That it was so hard for both of you. 713 01:26:26,258 --> 01:26:28,675 I didn't know. 714 01:26:28,842 --> 01:26:31,092 I'm sorry. 715 01:26:42,925 --> 01:26:46,175 But we know very little about the case. 716 01:26:46,342 --> 01:26:51,342 Faizal has hardly told us anything. It... 717 01:26:51,508 --> 01:26:58,217 It might just be something Jon or Sarah have dreamt up. Who knows? 718 01:26:58,383 --> 01:27:03,300 Sure, but would you have let David play with Armand later today? 719 01:27:03,467 --> 01:27:07,842 - That's not what it's about. - That's exactly what it's about. 720 01:27:08,008 --> 01:27:11,258 It's about our children, their school. 721 01:27:11,425 --> 01:27:16,675 This is a six-year-old child, and you're judging him. 722 01:27:16,842 --> 01:27:19,425 Yeah, we should be cautious... 723 01:27:19,592 --> 01:27:23,133 Do you hear what you're saying? 724 01:27:23,300 --> 01:27:27,550 You're judging us when you say that we've judged him. 725 01:27:27,717 --> 01:27:32,092 You're saying all of us have judged Armand. 726 01:27:32,258 --> 01:27:34,425 I'm taking precautions. 727 01:27:34,592 --> 01:27:39,383 And you won't answer my question. Would you let David play with Armand? 728 01:27:39,550 --> 01:27:41,967 But this isn't about David. 729 01:27:42,133 --> 01:27:46,133 - Not this time. - Fine. 730 01:27:46,300 --> 01:27:50,425 I actually don't think that Armand goes around 731 01:27:50,592 --> 01:27:53,425 poking his penis into everyone. 732 01:27:53,592 --> 01:27:56,467 Jeez, this is... 733 01:28:15,383 --> 01:28:20,008 You have to remember that Armand has been acting out all his life. 734 01:28:21,133 --> 01:28:24,342 It was about time we addressed it. 735 01:28:25,258 --> 01:28:27,633 It was inevitable. 736 01:28:29,675 --> 01:28:32,467 All actions have consequences. 737 01:28:34,175 --> 01:28:36,800 Even if you've had a hard time. 738 01:28:38,592 --> 01:28:40,633 Who hasn't? 739 01:28:43,592 --> 01:28:48,675 He wasn't drunk driving. He never drank. He'd driven there countless times. 740 01:28:48,842 --> 01:28:52,550 - Suddenly he veers off the road. - Does it matter? 741 01:28:52,717 --> 01:28:55,758 Then why does she lie about it? 742 01:28:55,925 --> 01:28:58,717 Couldn't she just tell the truth? 743 01:29:00,092 --> 01:29:04,758 What do you call tormenting someone into killing themself? 744 01:29:04,925 --> 01:29:09,300 - Stop it. - Desperate to make sure she's the victim. 745 01:29:10,425 --> 01:29:12,425 It's all nonsense. 746 01:29:12,592 --> 01:29:14,633 That's her repertoire. 747 01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,967 The role of victim. Vulnerability. 748 01:29:19,092 --> 01:29:21,883 Why am I the only one who sees it? 749 01:29:27,592 --> 01:29:29,633 Huh? 750 01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:51,842 When did she start confiding in you? 751 01:29:52,967 --> 01:29:56,758 - What do you mean? - Without a bruise on her body. 752 01:29:58,342 --> 01:30:02,008 She'll tell you all sorts of lies about Thomas. 753 01:30:03,550 --> 01:30:06,175 - That make you horny? - Oh yeah. 754 01:30:07,925 --> 01:30:10,383 You're obsessed with her. 755 01:30:12,092 --> 01:30:15,133 Yeah, yeah. Stop it. 756 01:30:15,300 --> 01:30:17,758 Cut it out. 757 01:30:50,258 --> 01:30:52,300 I'm just teasing you. 758 01:30:55,175 --> 01:30:57,717 You know it, Anders. Right? 759 01:31:07,925 --> 01:31:09,967 Shall we go now? 760 01:31:15,342 --> 01:31:19,133 Come on, let's go. The others can handle this. 761 01:31:22,675 --> 01:31:25,883 How did Jon get the bruises on his body? 762 01:31:29,550 --> 01:31:31,925 You know how. 763 01:31:32,092 --> 01:31:34,217 Yeah. 764 01:31:34,383 --> 01:31:37,967 - But that's not what you said. - What do you mean? 765 01:31:38,633 --> 01:31:43,592 You said something else when we spoke to Sunna and Elisabeth. 766 01:31:43,758 --> 01:31:48,383 You made it seem that Armand caused the bruises on Jon's body. 767 01:31:48,550 --> 01:31:51,883 He got them before the episode with Armand. 768 01:31:52,050 --> 01:31:54,092 Sure, but that's... 769 01:31:55,133 --> 01:31:57,925 I mean, that was because... 770 01:32:02,300 --> 01:32:06,717 - I mean, you know how he got them. - No. 771 01:32:09,092 --> 01:32:12,967 You know. You were there. I don't know anything. 772 01:32:17,508 --> 01:32:19,883 What are you getting at? 773 01:32:27,592 --> 01:32:30,050 Why did you lie about it? 774 01:32:35,842 --> 01:32:38,800 It was just a slip of the tongue. 775 01:32:38,967 --> 01:32:41,758 I didn't think it was important. 776 01:32:44,508 --> 01:32:47,258 Okay. 777 01:32:47,425 --> 01:32:52,717 - How did Jon get those bruises? - I'm not going to answer. 778 01:32:52,883 --> 01:32:58,550 Tell me, is your whole god damn family permeated with violence? 779 01:32:58,717 --> 01:33:01,883 - Relax now! - Don't tell me to relax. 780 01:33:02,050 --> 01:33:04,425 What do you want to achieve? 781 01:33:06,300 --> 01:33:09,133 What do you want? 782 01:34:12,383 --> 01:34:14,550 What are we doing? 783 01:34:17,967 --> 01:34:20,342 What is this? 784 01:34:33,883 --> 01:34:35,467 Elisabeth? 785 01:34:46,300 --> 01:34:47,967 Elisabeth? 786 01:35:08,883 --> 01:35:09,925 Listen. 787 01:35:34,842 --> 01:35:36,883 Dammit. 788 01:50:02,758 --> 01:50:05,050 Hi. 789 01:50:05,217 --> 01:50:07,258 Hi. 790 01:50:13,967 --> 01:50:15,925 I'm sorry. 791 01:50:16,092 --> 01:50:21,883 Or... I have to apologise on behalf of the school. 792 01:50:28,050 --> 01:50:30,092 Good. 793 01:50:34,467 --> 01:50:36,967 You know... 794 01:50:37,175 --> 01:50:40,383 If you look at us on the surface... 795 01:50:42,092 --> 01:50:44,133 There's a lot of chaos. 796 01:50:46,508 --> 01:50:49,008 If you dig deeper... 797 01:50:50,175 --> 01:50:53,133 What you find isn't that good either. 798 01:50:55,050 --> 01:50:58,633 But if you look at us just the right amount. 799 01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:02,842 Not too much. 800 01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:06,842 Not too little. 801 01:51:09,675 --> 01:51:12,050 You'll see we're alright. 802 01:51:16,592 --> 01:51:18,342 Goodbye. 61237

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