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- Whoa, nobody's shooting me.
Nobody's shooting me.
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Nobody's shooting me.
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There's three shooters to make
sure somebody is shooting me.
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You got me acting crazy
in front of all these people.
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Disney paying a lot
for this motherfucking art
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I'm going to give them--
fuck that.
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- During those times,
I had to wonder
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what was going on in his head.
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Like, why is he really angry?
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- It was shocking to me.
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What's really
going on out here?
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- We need to be asking
the question...
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not what's wrong with you...
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but what happened to you?
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- Sean and I--
we grew up together as kids.
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I know Sean.
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And he's made
so many mistakes.
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- Fuck that. I'm going to give
them their money's worth.
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- I used to work
with Sean Combs.
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And I don't want to be here
to talk about another man
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unless their business
crosses my business.
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If you only knew
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the shit
I fucking been through.
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There was a bounty
that was put on to silence me.
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- I'm back, baby.
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- It's a lot worse than
what the public knows.
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It's been 20 years.
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I haven't said anything
for so long.
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- Mr. Combs!
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- I've gone from Harlem
to Hollywood.
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Diddy finally has the key
to the city!
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I'm gonna show y'all
how we have fun
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and stay out of jail, too...
- Whoa.
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- And make money.
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- Like, just show me
what's around here.
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We'll walk with you.
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- So, yeah, so...
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about 1,100 square feet.
- Uh-huh.
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- Small, but it's
kind of spacious.
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It works for me.
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But I've been here
since around 2019.
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We're somewhere
in the woods, way remote,
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I guess what they call
these days "off-grid."
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- So this is pretty similar
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to what it was like
growing up for you?
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- Right now?
- Yeah.
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- No, no, this is
a little different.
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But I grew up weird.
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I grew up in the ghetto,
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and then I moved over into
the suburbs, where Sean lived.
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My reason
for having you guys here
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is because I truly believe
that what's going on right now
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is bigger than you.
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It's bigger than me.
It's bigger than media.
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It's bigger than this world.
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I just know
that where I am now,
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amongst all the noise...
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- We begin with breaking news.
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- Mr. Combs has been accused
of sexual assault.
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- Amongst all the headlines...
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- Rap star Sean "Puffy" Combs
is out on bail this morning.
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- There is
a federal investigation
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into sex trafficking.
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- Amongst all the chaos...
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- Abuse, harassment,
forced drugging.
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- Physically assaulting...
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- Multiple homes raided
by federal law enforcement.
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- He is public enemy
number one right now.
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And a lot of things that are
being attached to Sean now...
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I can't condone
any of the things
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that I've heard or seen.
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He's "monsterized" now.
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But monsters are made.
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You know,
that's my little bro.
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You know, I know Sean,
not Diddy, not Daddy Love.
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I don't know those people.
I don't know them.
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I swear I don't know them.
I've never met those people.
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I have to tell people
about what they don't know
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about his childhood.
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The making of Sean Combs...
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Sean is the son
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of two Harlem "it" people.
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Janice is Sean's mom.
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Speaking of Janice,
this is Janice here.
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And Melvin is Sean's dad.
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And Sean--he grew up
in Mount Vernon.
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That's where they built
a house.
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Now, here's the context
of it all.
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Mount Vernon is
a 4-square-mile city,
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maybe 25, 30 minutes
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from Manhattan--
New York proper.
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And at the north side is
where you would love to live
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because it's
the residential side.
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It's grass. It's birds.
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It's everything
the south side isn't.
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The south side,
that's your ghetto.
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That's where
I was born and raised
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until about five years old.
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This is a town you come to
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to get away from the hip town,
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to kind of integrate yourself
into some type of normalcy.
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Melvin--I've never met him,
never knew him.
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He passed before I met Sean.
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Why he wasn't there was just
a mystery to both of us.
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So Sean had to learn
about his dad
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through other fellas
that came up during that time.
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- Sean Combs' father
was allegedly...
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a gangster, a hustler,
and a player
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in the streets of New York.
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- Melvin was a part
of a group of guys
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that was led by Nicky Barnes...
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big Harlem kingpin,
if you want to call it.
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- His father sold
to an undercover cop.
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This was a New York City
police officer.
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And he gave
the cop information.
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His father was killed because
he was ratting them out.
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- I don't know how he died.
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I don't know.
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I just know Janet
woke up one day,
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and he was not there,
and Sean was.
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Janice was left a lot of money.
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There was a brand-new house,
and Janet had to pivot.
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And her desire was
to occupy that house
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with someone that had a son
close to the age of her son.
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- My mom knew Janet,
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and somehow, someway,
they hooked up,
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and we were offered the bottom
floor on her brand-new house
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that her and Melvin had built.
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And we had a chance now
to move on the north side.
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So, when we pulled up
to this house,
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I saw a whole new world,
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and all I did was look
at these two people,
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because what I saw,
I saw Black people like myself,
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but they had
a different color Black.
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It was golden. It was shiny.
It was healthy.
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They had really nice clothes
and jewelry.
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So we get up to the house.
We get out the car.
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Janice says, well, wait
a minute, let me go get Sean.
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And she goes upstairs.
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She comes back down
with this little kid.
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And I look at him
like, oh, my God,
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this guy is different.
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He's the one in the hat.
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And you can see
he has jewelry on.
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He has rings on.
He has bracelets on.
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This is a 4-year-old
in a 30-year-old's wardrobe.
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- My first interaction
with Sean Combs--
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He wasn't Puffy yet--
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We were playing baseball
down at Brush Park
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in Mount Vernon, New York.
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He was on Little League,
had braces.
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And he's a shy guy.
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You know, he wasn't real loud
and boisterous.
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I don't know
if he was good good,
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to where I would say
he was good in baseball.
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He was on the team.
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Even with the football,
it was like,
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he played football
at Mount Saint Michael.
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I'm not going to
say he was good.
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I heard he was on the team.
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- So I first met Puff
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when he came to a cousin
of mine's house party.
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He was part
of a dancing fashion crew
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called 7-Up Crew.
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And those guys would go
throughout New York City,
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battle people
in dancing, fashion.
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He also was one
of the first kids that I knew
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that had, like, a Gucci watch.
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- He always had all the best
of everything.
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Like, Sean didn't go
to school with us.
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Sean went to the Catholic
school, private school.
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- Private school.
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They always say that--
oh, yeah, he's doing good.
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Got him in private school.
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- This kid is rich.
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He was looked at
as the rich kid.
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Sean was the different kid.
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Sean was the kid that people
could smell was not tough.
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Sean was always bullied.
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You know, getting hit
up your head,
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on the side of your head
one too many times
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or getting called a bitch
one too many times.
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There's one kid in particular.
Name was Jonathan.
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He was about 6 feet tall
at 12 years old--
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real big, husky dude.
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And for some reason,
Jonathan would pick on him.
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And he would pick on him
and hit him and make him cry
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and take his bike
and just do mean stuff...
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to the point where
I couldn't watch that happen.
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I had to intervene,
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because my interaction
with Sean was a protector.
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It was a bigger bro.
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When something's done to them,
you step up.
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But after I graduated
high school
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and I went into military,
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Sean didn't have me
around anymore.
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- There's been
quite a bit of research done
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on a body of work
that we really refer to a lot.
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It's called
Adverse Childhood Experiences,
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or ACEs.
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It can be everything
from witnessing
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domestic violence,
physical abuse.
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It could be having
a parent who's absent.
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Here's a man who lost
his father early in life
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under some very violent,
tragic circumstances.
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If you've lost a parent,
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there's a desire
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to belong to something
bigger than yourself,
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to not be isolated,
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to belong to a group,
to fit in.
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- This is one of the pictures
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before Puff joined
the Same Gang.
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I started the Same Gang
in '89.
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We were men that came together,
and we went to parties.
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You know, we clubbed.
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You had some guys
that was hustling.
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Puff--man, he want
to be with us.
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He want to be with us.
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A lot of guys didn't want him
a part of the Same Gang
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because he didn't live
in Harlem.
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The dudes
didn't really like him.
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All right,
so one day we decided--
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they said,
Puff, come over here.
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We're going to have
the young'uns tighten him up.
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And we gonna smash him
in the head...
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Rough him up,
or stuff like that.
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When Puff came,
we was all out there.
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And the young guys grabbed him.
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And they start trying
to rough him up.
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And he jetted, running.
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They brought him back
to rough him up,
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smash stuff, hit him
in the head with cakes
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and all this other stuff
like that.
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After that,
Puff was in the Same Gang.
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This is the picture...
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when he crossed over
into the Same Gang.
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He got
the Same Gang T-shirt on.
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- When I got home
from the military--
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and Sean and I hadn't seen
each other in a while,
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and, you know, I'm like,
what's up, Sean?
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He's like, yeah,
they call me Puff now.
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They call me Puff.
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I was being
looked at as a punk.
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I was being looked at
as a pushover.
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I was being looked at
as a sissy,
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as a wimp, as a goofy.
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I ain't even trying to know
that person again.
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And I'm a Puff Daddy now.
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- So that insecurity,
the need to fit in...
250
00:13:47,634 --> 00:13:49,259
- I had a great time.
- Yeah?
251
00:13:49,260 --> 00:13:51,061
- I'm glad
they invited me back.
252
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- The need to feel powerful.
253
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Some perpetrators
254
00:13:55,424 --> 00:13:57,643
are profoundly damaged
individuals...
255
00:14:00,396 --> 00:14:04,033
And feel very powerless.
256
00:14:04,194 --> 00:14:07,178
And a way of being powerful
257
00:14:07,338 --> 00:14:10,256
is controlling
and victimizing other people.
258
00:14:10,416 --> 00:14:12,807
- What's up with your
relationship with Jennifer?
259
00:14:12,808 --> 00:14:17,013
- I am a civil litigator
who has filed several cases
260
00:14:17,173 --> 00:14:19,941
against Sean Combs
for sexual assault
261
00:14:20,101 --> 00:14:21,693
in civil court.
262
00:14:21,853 --> 00:14:26,463
I have been sounding the alarm
about Mr. Combs for years.
263
00:14:26,464 --> 00:14:29,383
He is a man who has done
awful things
264
00:14:29,384 --> 00:14:32,203
to hundreds,
maybe thousands of people.
265
00:14:32,363 --> 00:14:34,245
- I'm wilder, I'm crazier.
266
00:14:34,246 --> 00:14:36,223
- I want to speak
about this now
267
00:14:36,224 --> 00:14:38,367
because I witnessed everything.
268
00:14:38,461 --> 00:14:40,411
- I haven't said
anything for so long,
269
00:14:40,571 --> 00:14:43,188
and it's built up--
it's been 20 years.
270
00:14:43,189 --> 00:14:46,215
- Um...
271
00:14:46,216 --> 00:14:48,294
I don't trust anyone...
272
00:14:50,882 --> 00:14:55,099
Because I'm afraid that they
might come get me for speaking.
273
00:15:05,179 --> 00:15:06,145
- Go.
274
00:15:06,239 --> 00:15:08,022
The very first girlfriend
275
00:15:08,116 --> 00:15:10,474
Sean had that I met...
276
00:15:10,635 --> 00:15:12,625
was named Tracy.
277
00:15:12,626 --> 00:15:14,477
She was from Brooklyn.
278
00:15:14,478 --> 00:15:17,380
We were older now,
teenagers and stuff.
279
00:15:17,381 --> 00:15:19,659
So Tracy used to come
to the house.
280
00:15:19,819 --> 00:15:22,587
I'm sure he had college girls,
but I wasn't around.
281
00:15:27,919 --> 00:15:30,452
- I know some girls
that he's dated, you know,
282
00:15:30,613 --> 00:15:32,771
that have called him
a perfect gentleman.
283
00:15:32,772 --> 00:15:35,973
But when Sean started getting
more and more popular
284
00:15:35,974 --> 00:15:38,785
and he had one
of the hot girls on campus,
285
00:15:38,786 --> 00:15:40,605
there was a lot of jealousy
that went on.
286
00:15:42,909 --> 00:15:45,109
Maybe his personality
might not have been
287
00:15:45,269 --> 00:15:47,985
the most sensitive.
288
00:15:47,986 --> 00:15:50,839
I'm not sure what Puff
might have been focused on,
289
00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,193
but I just know
that he had a love for music.
290
00:15:54,353 --> 00:15:56,770
- Back when I was
going to Howard in '87,
291
00:15:56,931 --> 00:15:59,523
I was trying to get
into the music industry.
292
00:15:59,684 --> 00:16:03,703
Everybody was looking at me
like I was crazy.
293
00:16:03,863 --> 00:16:06,605
- I met Puffy on Howard's
campus for the first time.
294
00:16:06,606 --> 00:16:08,681
I was actually the first person
on Howard's campus
295
00:16:08,682 --> 00:16:10,743
to have a drum machine
at that time.
296
00:16:10,904 --> 00:16:12,727
And I've been
in the music industry
297
00:16:12,728 --> 00:16:15,513
ever since I was probably
15 years old.
298
00:16:15,514 --> 00:16:17,616
So he wanted to get with me
299
00:16:17,617 --> 00:16:20,353
because he knew
that I had connections.
300
00:16:20,513 --> 00:16:22,346
He would tell you that,
301
00:16:22,506 --> 00:16:25,874
I'm going to be the biggest
record producer in the world.
302
00:16:25,875 --> 00:16:29,802
Like, he already knew what
he wanted at Howard University.
303
00:16:29,803 --> 00:16:32,831
- He hung out with a lot
of friends from Mount Vernon.
304
00:16:32,832 --> 00:16:35,834
One of our biggest celebs
from Mount Vernon,
305
00:16:35,835 --> 00:16:37,535
his name is Heavy D.
306
00:16:37,536 --> 00:16:39,739
Heavy D came up to campus.
307
00:16:39,899 --> 00:16:43,040
- Heavy D was part
of Heavy D & the Boyz.
308
00:16:43,041 --> 00:16:47,663
They were actually the first
act signed to Uptown Records.
309
00:16:47,823 --> 00:16:51,282
Diddy spoke to his friend
Heavy D, and he said,
310
00:16:51,283 --> 00:16:53,476
can you get me an internship?
311
00:16:53,477 --> 00:16:56,472
Please get me an internship
at Uptown Records.
312
00:16:59,059 --> 00:17:00,351
- Hey, can you make
this happen?
313
00:17:08,244 --> 00:17:09,742
- Uptown Records
314
00:17:09,743 --> 00:17:14,198
was modeled as
a boutique version of Motown,
315
00:17:14,358 --> 00:17:16,600
but we just had
the hip-hop flavor to it.
316
00:17:16,761 --> 00:17:18,751
I had a little bit
of success myself,
317
00:17:18,752 --> 00:17:22,830
being the first number-one
artist on Uptown
318
00:17:22,831 --> 00:17:25,534
and the first platinum
artist on Uptown.
319
00:17:28,545 --> 00:17:30,814
I don't think
that people ever knew
320
00:17:30,815 --> 00:17:34,552
that Al B. Sure! funded Uptown.
321
00:17:36,473 --> 00:17:38,271
I was working with Jodeci,
322
00:17:38,272 --> 00:17:40,440
Mary J. Blige,
323
00:17:40,441 --> 00:17:42,534
Heavy D & the Boyz.
324
00:17:42,535 --> 00:17:45,453
We took a company
like Uptown from zero
325
00:17:45,454 --> 00:17:47,780
and made it into
a billion-dollar corporation
326
00:17:47,781 --> 00:17:49,357
or somewhere close.
327
00:17:49,358 --> 00:17:51,659
- Hello?
328
00:17:51,660 --> 00:17:54,570
- Sean wanted to work
at Uptown.
329
00:17:54,571 --> 00:17:56,664
He actually did some more,
like, suffering
330
00:17:56,665 --> 00:18:00,319
just to, you know, get
that internship.
331
00:18:00,479 --> 00:18:02,359
- So Sean would show up
in the weirdest places--
332
00:18:02,481 --> 00:18:04,622
at Heavy D's doorstep.
333
00:18:04,623 --> 00:18:06,826
He'd show up at Uptown,
he'd show up at parties--
334
00:18:06,986 --> 00:18:09,311
anything to get the attention
of the bigwigs.
335
00:18:09,312 --> 00:18:11,879
- He was really trying to get
336
00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,483
Andre Harrell's, the president
of Uptown Records, attention.
337
00:18:15,484 --> 00:18:16,985
From what I heard--
338
00:18:16,986 --> 00:18:19,487
is that he even,
like, slept outside of his car
339
00:18:19,488 --> 00:18:22,741
because he really wanted
to be in this.
340
00:18:22,742 --> 00:18:25,643
- And then Sean
forced his way in
341
00:18:25,644 --> 00:18:28,321
with what he can do for Andre
342
00:18:28,322 --> 00:18:29,774
and became an intern.
343
00:18:40,661 --> 00:18:43,687
- Yeah, I don't remember much.
344
00:18:43,848 --> 00:18:45,913
It's not like we hung out
on a daily basis
345
00:18:45,914 --> 00:18:48,042
and things of that nature.
346
00:18:48,202 --> 00:18:51,295
But what you do know
about Sean,
347
00:18:51,455 --> 00:18:54,698
one of Sean's
best attributes was,
348
00:18:54,859 --> 00:18:57,552
Sean let everybody know
in the camp,
349
00:18:57,712 --> 00:18:59,628
nobody's going to be
bigger than me.
350
00:19:01,966 --> 00:19:04,708
- At first, he was just really
just getting coffee,
351
00:19:04,869 --> 00:19:07,011
getting paper,
making Xerox copies.
352
00:19:07,171 --> 00:19:09,788
There wasn't that much money
in it yet.
353
00:19:09,789 --> 00:19:12,883
So he started
promoting parties.
354
00:19:13,044 --> 00:19:16,819
Now he's starting to make
some money with his parties.
355
00:19:16,820 --> 00:19:19,372
But at the same time,
there was an event.
356
00:19:22,887 --> 00:19:25,007
This is where he was going on
through some hard times.
357
00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:28,532
- That tragic event--
358
00:19:28,692 --> 00:19:30,484
I think the guy
wanted to kill himself...
359
00:19:30,645 --> 00:19:33,711
Be honest with you.
360
00:19:33,712 --> 00:19:35,464
- He was a party promoter.
361
00:19:37,168 --> 00:19:40,735
But at the time, myself and
many other people
362
00:19:40,736 --> 00:19:44,472
did not know who Sean Combs,
"Puff Daddy" was,
363
00:19:44,473 --> 00:19:47,101
until the City College event.
364
00:19:47,261 --> 00:19:50,429
- Puff and Heavy D
decided to throw
365
00:19:50,589 --> 00:19:53,757
a celebrity charity
basketball game.
366
00:19:53,918 --> 00:19:57,436
And the proceeds was supposed
to go to an AIDS foundation.
367
00:19:57,596 --> 00:20:01,664
When you got Mike Tyson,
LL Cool J,
368
00:20:01,665 --> 00:20:04,241
Heavy D himself,
a big celebrity,
369
00:20:04,242 --> 00:20:06,695
the urban community
wanted to see that.
370
00:20:09,608 --> 00:20:11,525
Highly, highly publicized.
371
00:20:11,686 --> 00:20:14,602
It was promoted on WBLS.
372
00:20:14,603 --> 00:20:18,606
- 98.7 Kiss--
they were blasting it.
373
00:20:18,607 --> 00:20:20,534
If you didn't know
about that event,
374
00:20:20,695 --> 00:20:21,860
something was wrong with you,
375
00:20:21,861 --> 00:20:24,704
because it was
all over the place.
376
00:20:24,705 --> 00:20:27,873
- My sister, Sonya Williams--
377
00:20:27,874 --> 00:20:31,053
she met Sean through his
girlfriend at the time.
378
00:20:31,147 --> 00:20:33,522
And he gave her the ticket.
379
00:20:33,683 --> 00:20:35,948
- My brother was excited
about it.
380
00:20:35,949 --> 00:20:37,977
He called everyone up.
381
00:20:38,137 --> 00:20:40,152
Yo, meet me at City College.
382
00:20:40,153 --> 00:20:42,907
Had nothing...
383
00:20:43,067 --> 00:20:44,808
tragic happened,
384
00:20:44,969 --> 00:20:47,870
it would have been
the best event ever.
385
00:20:55,736 --> 00:20:58,571
- December 28, 1991--
386
00:20:58,572 --> 00:21:01,474
wow, that was a day.
387
00:21:01,475 --> 00:21:03,877
December 28, 1991.
388
00:21:04,038 --> 00:21:06,005
I remember, you know,
my phone was ringing,
389
00:21:06,165 --> 00:21:07,640
and people want tickets.
390
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,817
Do you have tickets?
Can you get me tickets?
391
00:21:10,818 --> 00:21:12,061
- How y'all doing this morning?
392
00:21:12,221 --> 00:21:14,987
- At 22, Sean was a genius
at marketing.
393
00:21:14,988 --> 00:21:17,391
- They promoted it like it was
394
00:21:17,551 --> 00:21:20,861
in a 10,000-seat arena.
395
00:21:24,700 --> 00:21:27,401
- No, I said, WBLS promoted it
396
00:21:27,561 --> 00:21:30,479
as if it was a 10,000 seating.
397
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,806
City College holds 2,700.
398
00:21:34,869 --> 00:21:37,009
- Not only
was it filled inside,
399
00:21:37,010 --> 00:21:39,788
there was probably
just as many people outside
400
00:21:39,948 --> 00:21:41,114
that couldn't get inside.
401
00:21:41,275 --> 00:21:43,742
- There was this girl.
402
00:21:43,903 --> 00:21:48,746
And she was packed
in the glass door.
403
00:21:48,747 --> 00:21:50,424
And everybody was telling her,
yo, just go home.
404
00:21:50,584 --> 00:21:51,750
You can go out the back.
405
00:21:51,911 --> 00:21:53,827
- The crowd started
to get unruly.
406
00:21:53,828 --> 00:21:55,829
- The ticket crew
closed the door.
407
00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:58,281
- I heard, they locked me in.
408
00:21:58,282 --> 00:21:59,859
She locked the door.
409
00:22:00,019 --> 00:22:02,660
- Now they're crushed
against the door,
410
00:22:02,661 --> 00:22:05,588
like, packed, back to back.
411
00:22:05,589 --> 00:22:07,116
- When the crowd
rushed through...
412
00:22:07,276 --> 00:22:09,518
- All the glass and everything
just shattered.
413
00:22:10,845 --> 00:22:12,703
And people just
started running in.
414
00:22:12,704 --> 00:22:14,990
- And you got people piling up
on one another and another
415
00:22:15,150 --> 00:22:16,924
and another.
416
00:22:16,925 --> 00:22:18,777
And people are screaming,
just let me in, let me in.
417
00:22:18,938 --> 00:22:20,954
- And there were people who--
418
00:22:21,115 --> 00:22:24,682
My friends said they heard Dirk
smothered, like, mm...
419
00:22:24,683 --> 00:22:26,993
Like, they could hear him being
completely covered
420
00:22:27,155 --> 00:22:29,270
by the crowd.
421
00:22:32,802 --> 00:22:35,803
- I ran around the gym,
opened one door.
422
00:22:35,897 --> 00:22:37,855
People start falling down
right there.
423
00:22:38,015 --> 00:22:41,273
Open up another door--people
start falling down there.
424
00:22:45,823 --> 00:22:47,731
- I didn't see Diddy at all.
425
00:22:47,891 --> 00:22:50,109
- What I do see is him...
426
00:22:50,269 --> 00:22:53,211
Puffy, running around,
trying to save people.
427
00:22:53,212 --> 00:22:56,038
I saw him trying to give
428
00:22:56,039 --> 00:22:58,290
mouth-to-mouth resuscitation
to people.
429
00:22:58,291 --> 00:23:02,421
- I never saw Sean Combs
430
00:23:02,581 --> 00:23:06,799
give anyone CPR.
431
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,976
If anybody tells you that,
432
00:23:08,977 --> 00:23:12,054
they telling a flat-out lie.
433
00:23:12,055 --> 00:23:14,583
- Ain't nobody wanted to give
them mouth-to-mouth,
434
00:23:14,744 --> 00:23:16,185
no people mouth-to-mouth
or none of that.
435
00:23:16,345 --> 00:23:17,937
- I can't even perform CPR
436
00:23:18,097 --> 00:23:20,137
because everybody's trying
to crowd around and look.
437
00:23:28,824 --> 00:23:29,822
- 9 young people
crushed to death,
438
00:23:29,823 --> 00:23:31,063
27 others injured trying to get
439
00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:32,926
into a celebrity
basketball game.
440
00:23:32,927 --> 00:23:35,753
- My brother was pronounced
dead at 7:50.
441
00:23:35,754 --> 00:23:37,755
And he got there,
I think, at 7:00.
442
00:23:37,756 --> 00:23:40,332
- My sister's name
is Sonya Williams.
443
00:23:40,333 --> 00:23:43,135
That's Sonya,
the larger picture.
444
00:23:43,136 --> 00:23:46,715
And this is the stairwell
that she died in.
445
00:23:46,876 --> 00:23:50,169
- Jabaal, Dawn,
Leonard, Sonya, Dirk,
446
00:23:50,329 --> 00:23:53,973
Charise, Darren,
Laytesha, and Yul
447
00:23:54,133 --> 00:23:55,808
from New York City.
448
00:23:58,846 --> 00:24:00,828
City College 9.
449
00:24:00,829 --> 00:24:03,015
- And I just pray
for the families.
450
00:24:03,175 --> 00:24:06,134
And I pray for the children
that lost their lives.
451
00:24:06,295 --> 00:24:10,138
- The news is, he oversold
an event, him and Heavy D.
452
00:24:10,299 --> 00:24:12,390
And you know why?
Because their names were on it.
453
00:24:12,552 --> 00:24:14,116
- I was a promoter
of the event.
454
00:24:14,117 --> 00:24:16,144
- This thing,
somehow or another,
455
00:24:16,305 --> 00:24:20,798
made him
the most famous guy around.
456
00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:22,750
- How you doing?
- Come on.
457
00:24:22,751 --> 00:24:24,802
- Puffy became more known.
458
00:24:24,803 --> 00:24:27,772
It almost made him,
in a real weird way.
459
00:24:27,773 --> 00:24:29,399
Yeah.
460
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,091
- I just wish that everyone
461
00:24:31,092 --> 00:24:34,013
would just admit
their mistakes,
462
00:24:34,173 --> 00:24:36,089
live up
to their responsibilities.
463
00:24:36,250 --> 00:24:37,998
- He wasn't criminally charged,
464
00:24:37,999 --> 00:24:40,392
but there were lawsuits
that he had to deal with.
465
00:24:40,393 --> 00:24:43,246
- Those families are asking
a judge to decide fault
466
00:24:43,247 --> 00:24:45,098
and award a penalty.
467
00:24:45,259 --> 00:24:47,399
- When my mother
was in litigation
468
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,777
with the other families,
469
00:24:48,938 --> 00:24:50,679
then the details
start coming out.
470
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,764
You promoted this event.
471
00:24:52,925 --> 00:24:55,041
You didn't hire
enough security.
472
00:24:55,042 --> 00:24:57,209
You oversold the tickets.
473
00:24:57,210 --> 00:25:00,013
Someone took the money,
ran down the stairs,
474
00:25:00,014 --> 00:25:01,290
and shut the door.
475
00:25:04,278 --> 00:25:07,044
We was in litigation
with this for six years.
476
00:25:07,045 --> 00:25:09,798
So now his music
is doing well.
477
00:25:11,483 --> 00:25:13,450
Sean John is getting
ready to come out.
478
00:25:13,451 --> 00:25:17,429
- This is Sean John, Sean John.
I'm wearing Sean John.
479
00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:19,967
- So he's doing very well.
480
00:25:20,061 --> 00:25:23,962
He calls me
to the BMG building.
481
00:25:24,123 --> 00:25:25,889
You know, it's just me
and him in the office,
482
00:25:26,049 --> 00:25:27,465
and he seemed very nervous.
483
00:25:27,627 --> 00:25:31,118
He seemed so nervous
that his lips turned white.
484
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,281
And he says, Sonny, I'm going
to offer you $50,000.
485
00:25:36,576 --> 00:25:38,876
So I remember looking
around the office,
486
00:25:38,877 --> 00:25:41,154
and I'm seeing all these
plaques now on the wall--
487
00:25:41,315 --> 00:25:43,306
platinum plaques, gold plaques.
488
00:25:43,307 --> 00:25:45,433
I said, brother,
you got all this going on,
489
00:25:45,434 --> 00:25:49,136
and you offering me $50,000?
490
00:25:49,137 --> 00:25:51,164
- He says, Sonny, man,
listen, man, you know,
491
00:25:51,325 --> 00:25:52,890
that's real generous.
492
00:25:52,891 --> 00:25:54,466
That's a generous donation.
493
00:25:54,467 --> 00:25:57,469
And I lost it.
494
00:25:57,470 --> 00:26:00,823
I said, is Sonya
your fucking friend?
495
00:26:00,824 --> 00:26:03,752
You offer me $50,000...
496
00:26:03,913 --> 00:26:06,329
and you gave Sonya the ticket
497
00:26:06,330 --> 00:26:08,906
to go to that event?
498
00:26:08,907 --> 00:26:11,110
That was a slap in my face.
499
00:26:11,270 --> 00:26:13,411
I don't want to talk money.
500
00:26:13,412 --> 00:26:17,116
I want you to help me do
something in their memory.
501
00:26:17,276 --> 00:26:20,694
I said, but is Sonya
your friend?
502
00:26:20,854 --> 00:26:22,830
He wouldn't answer me.
503
00:26:24,249 --> 00:26:27,275
So I go out.
I go out the room.
504
00:26:27,436 --> 00:26:29,427
So now I'm conflicted.
505
00:26:29,428 --> 00:26:31,955
Maybe you should take it,
and maybe he'll work with you
506
00:26:32,115 --> 00:26:34,958
and help you
with the foundation.
507
00:26:35,118 --> 00:26:37,136
So I go back in the office.
508
00:26:37,296 --> 00:26:39,496
I said, listen, man,
I don't want you bringing up
509
00:26:39,657 --> 00:26:43,342
money and Sonya
in the same sentence.
510
00:26:43,502 --> 00:26:45,443
I said, $50,000?
511
00:26:45,444 --> 00:26:48,046
He said, Sonny, please,
man, trust me, man.
512
00:26:48,207 --> 00:26:50,941
It's a good donation.
513
00:26:56,031 --> 00:26:58,282
I reluctantly did it.
514
00:27:05,074 --> 00:27:07,140
- All families settled
515
00:27:07,141 --> 00:27:10,377
and were giving
a settlement amount.
516
00:27:12,005 --> 00:27:15,047
We got $40,000
517
00:27:15,048 --> 00:27:17,475
from Sean Combs directly.
518
00:27:19,236 --> 00:27:22,288
But he never owned up
to it, never--
519
00:27:22,450 --> 00:27:24,807
never just said, I apologize.
520
00:27:24,808 --> 00:27:28,244
There's a clip of him saying
that it wasn't overbooked.
521
00:27:28,245 --> 00:27:31,122
- You know, we sold tickets,
but we didn't outsell.
522
00:27:31,123 --> 00:27:33,065
The place--it wasn't sold out.
523
00:27:33,066 --> 00:27:35,343
- That's a blatant lie.
524
00:27:38,455 --> 00:27:40,998
His image is important
for him.
525
00:27:40,999 --> 00:27:44,251
The lies go back
to City College.
526
00:27:44,252 --> 00:27:46,078
- Everything I do every day,
527
00:27:46,079 --> 00:27:49,208
I try to be a shining example
of hard work
528
00:27:49,368 --> 00:27:51,109
and what you get
if you work hard.
529
00:27:51,270 --> 00:27:53,578
- Had someone
found him accountable,
530
00:27:53,673 --> 00:27:55,956
it may have just slowed down
the process
531
00:27:56,050 --> 00:28:00,092
of all the other things that
happened to other people.
532
00:28:00,093 --> 00:28:02,094
- Here with Al B. Sure!
533
00:28:02,095 --> 00:28:04,447
Mr. Al B., I'm getting a lot
of letters about you, man,
534
00:28:04,448 --> 00:28:06,524
a lot of ladies
out there watching.
535
00:28:06,525 --> 00:28:08,485
And they want to see,
what's behind those glasses?
536
00:28:10,170 --> 00:28:12,806
- Before Sean was an intern,
537
00:28:12,966 --> 00:28:15,901
I met a woman, Kimberly.
538
00:28:16,061 --> 00:28:19,052
One day, I was backstage,
539
00:28:19,053 --> 00:28:20,254
Madison Square Garden.
540
00:28:20,255 --> 00:28:23,098
And the first time I laid eyes
541
00:28:23,099 --> 00:28:25,617
on Kimberly Antwinette...
542
00:28:25,618 --> 00:28:28,497
Porter...
543
00:28:28,657 --> 00:28:30,622
we met.
544
00:28:30,623 --> 00:28:32,126
That was it.
545
00:28:32,286 --> 00:28:34,310
Yo, I swear.
546
00:28:34,311 --> 00:28:37,129
I still feel like
a little kid when I remember.
547
00:28:37,130 --> 00:28:38,298
That's crazy.
548
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:42,586
We had a son, Quincy.
549
00:28:42,746 --> 00:28:46,638
- Al had influence in getting
Kim a job at Uptown,
550
00:28:46,639 --> 00:28:50,451
and Kim became
the receptionist.
551
00:28:50,452 --> 00:28:53,272
- At one point, I was
working on K-Ci & JoJo
552
00:28:53,432 --> 00:28:54,646
on one of the soundtracks.
553
00:28:54,647 --> 00:28:56,398
Sean came by the studio.
554
00:28:56,399 --> 00:28:58,277
I believe
he may have been with...
555
00:28:58,437 --> 00:29:01,328
his significant other
at the time, who was Misa.
556
00:29:03,843 --> 00:29:06,401
And I was in the studio with...
557
00:29:06,495 --> 00:29:08,310
Kimberly.
558
00:29:08,311 --> 00:29:10,662
And we had the baby with us
at that point, I think,
559
00:29:10,663 --> 00:29:13,266
and we were--
I was at the mixing board.
560
00:29:13,267 --> 00:29:16,519
He walked into the studio,
and he looked over,
561
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,672
and he saw
this really beautiful girl.
562
00:29:20,673 --> 00:29:24,602
And she was holding
this really beautiful baby.
563
00:29:24,603 --> 00:29:29,207
And he said, hey, man...
564
00:29:29,368 --> 00:29:32,102
I wish I had a beautiful girl
like that.
565
00:29:34,373 --> 00:29:38,040
I was like, uh, you do.
566
00:29:38,041 --> 00:29:40,117
It's Misa.
567
00:29:40,118 --> 00:29:43,621
- It was love at first sight
568
00:29:43,622 --> 00:29:46,306
with Sean seeing Kim.
569
00:29:46,307 --> 00:29:48,976
It was a "stop you
in your tracks" moment,
570
00:29:48,977 --> 00:29:51,186
a "oh, my God" moment,
571
00:29:51,187 --> 00:29:53,631
"I got to have her" moment.
572
00:29:53,632 --> 00:29:55,659
And...
573
00:29:55,819 --> 00:29:59,186
he gets what he wants.
574
00:29:59,187 --> 00:30:01,089
The whole staff
watched it happen.
575
00:30:01,250 --> 00:30:02,740
Sean had no shame
in his aggression
576
00:30:02,902 --> 00:30:06,143
towards Kim and his approach
to her--no shame.
577
00:30:06,144 --> 00:30:09,071
Just like, this is the girl.
You're going to be my girl.
578
00:30:09,072 --> 00:30:11,675
You might not know it yet,
but...
579
00:30:11,835 --> 00:30:14,102
- Listen, there's an OG rule.
580
00:30:14,263 --> 00:30:16,980
If you my brother
and you and your wife--
581
00:30:17,140 --> 00:30:19,114
if something happens...
582
00:30:19,115 --> 00:30:21,208
she's off-limits.
583
00:30:21,209 --> 00:30:25,087
- Sean! Sean, this way!
584
00:30:25,088 --> 00:30:28,724
- They dated off and on
for years...
585
00:30:28,725 --> 00:30:33,745
always on in his mind
and never off.
586
00:30:33,746 --> 00:30:37,284
Puff was sick with her.
587
00:30:37,444 --> 00:30:39,253
No matter who he dealt with
588
00:30:39,413 --> 00:30:43,206
or who he had over...
589
00:30:43,366 --> 00:30:46,484
he always ran back to Kim.
590
00:30:46,485 --> 00:30:50,964
- I have a photo of Sean
and Kim Porter
591
00:30:51,124 --> 00:30:53,240
in Paris Fashion Week,
592
00:30:53,241 --> 00:30:55,394
Kim and I on the yacht
in Saint-Tropez.
593
00:30:55,554 --> 00:30:58,770
He would fly glam out
to even, like, vacations,
594
00:30:58,771 --> 00:31:02,174
because we had to make sure
Kim Porter looked perfect.
595
00:31:02,175 --> 00:31:04,444
And he had to look perfect.
596
00:31:04,605 --> 00:31:06,405
Kim was from Georgia.
597
00:31:06,565 --> 00:31:10,457
She wasn't this glam girl
that the world perceived.
598
00:31:10,458 --> 00:31:12,452
We made her glam.
599
00:31:14,323 --> 00:31:16,022
She was his arm candy.
600
00:31:18,410 --> 00:31:22,294
- It seems that Diddy
ended up adopting Quincy
601
00:31:22,295 --> 00:31:24,331
and raising Quincy as his own.
602
00:31:24,425 --> 00:31:26,724
- I'm here as his father to...
603
00:31:26,725 --> 00:31:30,477
you know, to raise him
and give him advice.
604
00:31:30,478 --> 00:31:34,132
- I have to keep in mind
that...
605
00:31:34,292 --> 00:31:36,734
what people were fed
606
00:31:36,735 --> 00:31:41,339
in this propaganda against me
over the years,
607
00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:43,600
about, oh, Puffy did this
and adopted your kid
608
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,235
and adopted this--
609
00:31:45,395 --> 00:31:48,346
there's no adoption, none.
610
00:31:48,507 --> 00:31:51,424
There's no letter to my father
and all that.
611
00:31:51,425 --> 00:31:54,326
All crafted by a publicist.
612
00:31:54,327 --> 00:31:59,006
And if you haven't noticed,
his name is still Brown.
613
00:31:59,007 --> 00:32:01,585
People thought I was absent
and things of that nature.
614
00:32:01,745 --> 00:32:04,537
It was basically instructed
by Kimberly.
615
00:32:07,701 --> 00:32:11,503
I was told that Puffy
wasn't too happy about anyone
616
00:32:11,663 --> 00:32:13,645
who had a relationship
with Kimberly.
617
00:32:16,035 --> 00:32:19,810
I was very much under--listen,
you promise on our son's life,
618
00:32:19,811 --> 00:32:21,638
you know, just stay
out of the way.
619
00:32:21,798 --> 00:32:24,415
Don't do this.
Don't get involved.
620
00:32:24,416 --> 00:32:26,443
Being told, please,
621
00:32:26,603 --> 00:32:28,419
don't do that tough-guy
Mount Vernon shit.
622
00:32:28,420 --> 00:32:30,162
You will get killed.
623
00:32:36,622 --> 00:32:38,613
- Kimberly said,
don't do this.
624
00:32:38,773 --> 00:32:41,190
Don't get involved.
You will get killed.
625
00:32:41,351 --> 00:32:45,669
Even to the point
where I remember...
626
00:32:45,670 --> 00:32:48,048
Oof, I can't.
627
00:32:56,681 --> 00:32:59,634
Yeah, man,
I can't go into that.
628
00:32:59,794 --> 00:33:01,711
There's legal proceedings
going on right now,
629
00:33:01,872 --> 00:33:03,563
so this will be...
630
00:33:03,724 --> 00:33:06,540
But, yeah, I will share that
at some point,
631
00:33:06,541 --> 00:33:11,194
but, yeah, this--
it's part of evidence.
632
00:33:11,195 --> 00:33:13,297
And...
633
00:33:13,298 --> 00:33:16,576
I'm going to have to refrain
from this part of this--
634
00:33:16,737 --> 00:33:18,302
this segment.
635
00:33:20,806 --> 00:33:24,626
Let's just say,
you got to listen to Kimberly
636
00:33:26,696 --> 00:33:30,674
Because not only
was she trying to save me...
637
00:33:30,834 --> 00:33:32,625
she was putting
her own life in danger.
638
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,893
- Sean!
639
00:33:34,894 --> 00:33:37,347
- Sean, right here, please.
Sean, right here.
640
00:33:41,270 --> 00:33:43,503
- One time
I was called on the phone
641
00:33:43,664 --> 00:33:46,347
to rush over
to St. Luke's Hospital.
642
00:33:46,508 --> 00:33:48,758
She looked like she was
bruised and stuff like that.
643
00:33:48,919 --> 00:33:51,186
But she wasn't saying
much of nothing.
644
00:33:53,924 --> 00:33:57,666
- I have a victim
who I now represent.
645
00:33:57,667 --> 00:33:59,619
She alleges that she also saw
646
00:33:59,780 --> 00:34:01,494
acts of violence
647
00:34:01,495 --> 00:34:02,622
with regard to Kim Porter.
648
00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:06,668
She was horrified.
649
00:34:08,939 --> 00:34:10,446
It was appalling.
650
00:34:10,607 --> 00:34:14,358
She was threatened
into not reporting it.
651
00:34:16,862 --> 00:34:18,620
- Every time I went somewhere
with them,
652
00:34:18,621 --> 00:34:20,990
it'd be, like,
a presidential suite.
653
00:34:20,991 --> 00:34:22,801
But see, if I'm outside
654
00:34:22,895 --> 00:34:25,720
because I got to watch the door
at a certain time,
655
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,972
Kim might come out the room.
656
00:34:28,133 --> 00:34:31,151
And, like, she'll be in her
robe or something like that.
657
00:34:31,311 --> 00:34:33,052
And you could tell that she--
658
00:34:33,213 --> 00:34:35,805
he may have been roughing--
I'd be like, yo, you all right?
659
00:34:35,966 --> 00:34:38,408
He play too much.
660
00:34:44,466 --> 00:34:47,525
- There were whispers maybe
661
00:34:47,686 --> 00:34:51,395
of things that were happening
behind the scenes.
662
00:34:53,523 --> 00:34:54,966
- Thanks a lot.
663
00:34:55,127 --> 00:34:58,336
- There was
a little blip of coverage
664
00:34:58,496 --> 00:35:00,245
but nothing beyond that.
665
00:35:00,246 --> 00:35:01,890
- Make some noise.
666
00:35:02,050 --> 00:35:04,309
- By that time, Sean--
667
00:35:04,469 --> 00:35:06,485
probably one
of the hardest-working
668
00:35:06,486 --> 00:35:07,811
up-and-coming executives.
669
00:35:07,812 --> 00:35:09,813
- And I work, like,
20 hours a day.
670
00:35:09,814 --> 00:35:12,692
And I feel
as a young Black man,
671
00:35:12,853 --> 00:35:15,595
anything I put my mind to,
I can do.
672
00:35:15,756 --> 00:35:18,997
- He worked his way from intern
to the director of A&R
673
00:35:18,998 --> 00:35:22,801
in the space of about a year
or a year and a half.
674
00:35:22,802 --> 00:35:26,039
- That was the person
at the label
675
00:35:26,199 --> 00:35:29,433
who was responsible
for signing new artists
676
00:35:29,434 --> 00:35:31,084
to the record label.
677
00:35:31,085 --> 00:35:34,713
- I never knew I would be here,
but, you know, I'm grateful,
678
00:35:34,714 --> 00:35:36,723
and, you know,
I'm definitely honored.
679
00:35:36,724 --> 00:35:38,593
- You had the keys
to the kingdom.
680
00:35:38,753 --> 00:35:42,222
Like, you were able to say
what was hot.
681
00:35:42,382 --> 00:35:43,623
You were able to say,
682
00:35:43,784 --> 00:35:44,975
that's going to be
the next big artist.
683
00:35:45,135 --> 00:35:48,452
And you had that power
really to put somebody on.
684
00:35:48,453 --> 00:35:50,129
And after that,
685
00:35:50,290 --> 00:35:53,958
he launches his own
record label, Bad Boy.
686
00:35:53,959 --> 00:35:55,810
- This is it,
Bad Boy Entertainment.
687
00:35:55,970 --> 00:35:58,036
- Bad Boy Entertainment,
no doubt.
688
00:35:58,037 --> 00:36:00,064
- Totally, totally familiar, totally.
689
00:36:00,225 --> 00:36:02,841
This is a brand-new start
at a brand-new label,
690
00:36:02,842 --> 00:36:04,569
brand-new money.
691
00:36:04,729 --> 00:36:07,998
So, at Uptown, Sean left,
692
00:36:08,158 --> 00:36:11,751
and the founder of Uptown
gave me Sean's workload,
693
00:36:11,912 --> 00:36:14,127
along with the workload
I already had.
694
00:36:14,128 --> 00:36:17,507
At night, I'm inheriting
his workload.
695
00:36:17,667 --> 00:36:20,133
And he's inheriting
a new label.
696
00:36:20,134 --> 00:36:21,469
It's crazy.
697
00:36:21,630 --> 00:36:24,389
- Diddy looked at hip-hop
in a very different way.
698
00:36:24,549 --> 00:36:26,841
People felt
that it had to be gritty
699
00:36:27,001 --> 00:36:29,493
and very tied to the streets.
700
00:36:29,494 --> 00:36:31,271
But in Diddy's mind...
701
00:36:34,324 --> 00:36:37,676
Why can't hip-hop be you
driving around in a Bentley?
702
00:36:37,677 --> 00:36:40,829
Why can't hip-hop be
having Rolexes,
703
00:36:40,830 --> 00:36:43,533
having mansions, and living
that kind of high life?
704
00:36:45,977 --> 00:36:49,096
- It's this shiny-suit era,
this glossy era.
705
00:36:49,097 --> 00:36:52,090
It's all about spending
and making money.
706
00:36:52,091 --> 00:36:53,793
He had just come out
707
00:36:53,954 --> 00:36:57,130
with the Notorious B.I.G.,
Craig Mack.
708
00:36:57,290 --> 00:37:02,067
He had a heavy-hitter roster
in hip-hop.
709
00:37:02,068 --> 00:37:05,178
- That's the beginning
of Sean's ending,
710
00:37:05,179 --> 00:37:09,107
because he was given way more
than your average rapper,
711
00:37:09,108 --> 00:37:12,936
an average inner-city
Black industry person.
712
00:37:12,937 --> 00:37:15,563
- I'm from Harlem, young man
from Harlem, New York.
713
00:37:15,564 --> 00:37:17,567
This is crazy right here.
714
00:37:17,727 --> 00:37:20,144
I'm reaching big.
I'm going for the big-time.
715
00:37:20,305 --> 00:37:22,546
I'm trying to have my name
in lights one day, baby.
716
00:37:22,547 --> 00:37:23,947
- Here's Sean and I.
717
00:37:23,948 --> 00:37:27,601
That's when he was
a brand-new millionaire.
718
00:37:27,763 --> 00:37:30,804
Around that time, he showed me
a check for $60 million,
719
00:37:30,805 --> 00:37:32,332
and I couldn't believe it.
720
00:37:32,492 --> 00:37:34,734
- Puffy was able to negotiate
721
00:37:34,895 --> 00:37:37,662
a $55 million advance,
722
00:37:37,822 --> 00:37:40,507
reportedly, from Clive Davis.
723
00:37:41,843 --> 00:37:44,818
- It was a check,
and it was crumbled up.
724
00:37:44,819 --> 00:37:46,921
And he has that Kool-Aid look
on his mouth.
725
00:37:47,081 --> 00:37:48,955
He licked his lips and said,
726
00:37:48,956 --> 00:37:51,158
yeah, I'm about to turn
this shit on--watch.
727
00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:53,285
He was rubbing elbows
with Tommy Hilfiger.
728
00:37:53,286 --> 00:37:55,788
He was on the top 10
of the record charts.
729
00:37:55,789 --> 00:37:57,515
He's known worldwide.
730
00:37:57,675 --> 00:37:59,908
He's probably one
731
00:37:59,909 --> 00:38:02,836
of the most photographed
Black men in history.
732
00:38:02,837 --> 00:38:05,089
And he's not even
25 years old yet.
733
00:38:05,090 --> 00:38:06,691
And this wasn't, like,
734
00:38:06,851 --> 00:38:08,741
his first and last
million-dollar check.
735
00:38:08,742 --> 00:38:10,219
This was the first of many.
736
00:38:10,220 --> 00:38:14,615
But now Sean is the 1%
of the 1% of the 1%
737
00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:16,626
of the 1% in the Black world.
738
00:38:16,786 --> 00:38:19,028
I ain't never met
nobody this rich,
739
00:38:19,189 --> 00:38:21,179
and this is Sean.
740
00:38:21,180 --> 00:38:24,634
What does that do to a person?
I can only imagine.
741
00:39:09,731 --> 00:39:13,097
- It's been taking me
fucking ever
742
00:39:13,098 --> 00:39:17,771
to get back to my exact tone
of not giving a fuck.
743
00:39:24,613 --> 00:39:26,613
- You got me acting crazy.
744
00:39:29,201 --> 00:39:31,067
- I can show y'all
how we have fun
745
00:39:31,161 --> 00:39:33,661
and stay out of jail, too,
and make money.
746
00:39:40,878 --> 00:39:42,903
- โช It just don't stop โช
747
00:39:43,064 --> 00:39:45,380
โช Sunup to sundown,
my people get it โช
748
00:39:45,381 --> 00:39:47,083
โช Distressed jeans,
Timb boots โช
749
00:39:47,243 --> 00:39:49,203
โช And a Yankee fitted,
the way the chain hang... โช
750
00:40:16,089 --> 00:40:18,838
- The one, the only,
Mr. Can't Stop, Won't Stop,
751
00:40:18,839 --> 00:40:20,834
Mr. Combs!
752
00:40:36,359 --> 00:40:39,284
- I was going to do
whatever it took
753
00:40:39,285 --> 00:40:42,362
to be successful
in the industry.
754
00:40:42,363 --> 00:40:44,640
- To Puff,
image was his livelihood.
755
00:40:46,903 --> 00:40:48,460
- Excuse me,
excuse me, excuse me.
756
00:40:48,461 --> 00:40:52,073
- He felt like that, in order
for him to have this image,
757
00:40:52,233 --> 00:40:54,949
you have to be
larger than life.
758
00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:59,379
And he thought that if people
fear him, they respect him.
759
00:40:59,380 --> 00:41:00,939
- Nobody's shooting me.
Nobody's shooting me.
760
00:41:00,940 --> 00:41:02,933
Nobody's shooting me.
761
00:41:02,934 --> 00:41:04,911
There's three shooters to make
sure somebody is shooting me.
762
00:41:05,071 --> 00:41:06,838
You got me acting crazy
in front of all these people.
763
00:41:06,998 --> 00:41:08,214
JJ, you got me acting crazy.
764
00:41:13,405 --> 00:41:15,395
- Disney paying a lot
for this motherfucking art
765
00:41:15,396 --> 00:41:17,223
I'm going to give them--
fuck that.
766
00:41:22,505 --> 00:41:25,914
- Right now.
Nah...
767
00:41:25,915 --> 00:41:30,686
- I worked with Diddy
on MTV's 'Making the Band 2."
768
00:41:30,846 --> 00:41:33,839
When he got angry
with one of my band members,
769
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,442
he said, you make me so mad,
I want to eat your flesh.
770
00:41:36,602 --> 00:41:38,444
And then he said to another one
of my band members--
771
00:41:38,604 --> 00:41:40,771
he said, you rolling
your eyes and everyt--
772
00:41:40,932 --> 00:41:43,173
you know, I could go get
a crackhead and pay them $20
773
00:41:43,174 --> 00:41:44,876
to smack the shit out of you.
774
00:41:45,036 --> 00:41:47,328
Who says that?
That's crazy.
775
00:41:49,930 --> 00:41:51,931
- We're in the studio.
776
00:41:51,932 --> 00:41:53,885
You know, he had said
some stuff about the band.
777
00:41:54,045 --> 00:41:58,513
And Puff said, they going
to keep fucking around with me,
778
00:41:58,514 --> 00:42:00,365
and I'm going to drug
they ass out
779
00:42:00,366 --> 00:42:02,143
and pimp them out to my niggas.
780
00:42:04,271 --> 00:42:06,963
And I said, nigga, them
is somebody's daughters.
781
00:42:06,964 --> 00:42:08,799
What the fuck is
you talking about?
782
00:42:11,963 --> 00:42:14,030
I seen him cuss at his mother
at one time.
783
00:42:15,942 --> 00:42:17,457
She gets in the car,
784
00:42:17,458 --> 00:42:19,661
and she was trying
to tell him something.
785
00:42:19,821 --> 00:42:21,035
He said, didn't I tell you
786
00:42:21,036 --> 00:42:23,138
to stay out
my motherfucking business?
787
00:42:23,139 --> 00:42:25,265
And I said, motherfucker,
you don't talk
788
00:42:25,266 --> 00:42:26,793
to your mother like that.
789
00:42:26,953 --> 00:42:28,501
You apologize to her.
790
00:42:28,502 --> 00:42:30,345
You ain't going to bring
nothing but bad luck--
791
00:42:30,346 --> 00:42:32,423
But, Gene, Gene,
I told her to stay--
792
00:42:32,584 --> 00:42:34,450
You wouldn't have
no motherfucking business
793
00:42:34,611 --> 00:42:36,226
if it wasn't for her.
794
00:42:36,227 --> 00:42:38,553
And that's what
our conversation was.
795
00:42:38,554 --> 00:42:41,332
Now, apologize to her.
796
00:42:41,493 --> 00:42:45,435
- Fast forward to actually
making the band,
797
00:42:45,436 --> 00:42:46,961
and he said--
798
00:42:46,962 --> 00:42:49,932
- I want me a piece
of cheesecake.
799
00:42:50,092 --> 00:42:51,442
- When you're watching it,
800
00:42:51,603 --> 00:42:53,543
you're like, yeah,
go get a slice of cheesecake.
801
00:42:53,544 --> 00:42:55,464
Like, you want this.
You got to want it that bad.
802
00:42:55,607 --> 00:42:58,507
- Puffy just told us to go
to the store in Brooklyn
803
00:42:58,508 --> 00:43:00,875
and bring him back
a cheesecake and walk.
804
00:43:00,876 --> 00:43:02,427
- Say what?
805
00:43:02,428 --> 00:43:06,932
- People looked at that like,
yo, this dude is crazy.
806
00:43:06,933 --> 00:43:09,860
- We walked for eight hours
over the Brooklyn Bridge.
807
00:43:10,021 --> 00:43:12,288
We went from Manhattan
to Brooklyn, walking.
808
00:43:12,448 --> 00:43:15,089
And so I'm doing that stuff
because I'm like,
809
00:43:15,090 --> 00:43:17,075
I ain't going to go home.
810
00:43:17,076 --> 00:43:19,220
This is what
I've been working for.
811
00:44:29,667 --> 00:44:30,866
- I was a part of a group
812
00:44:31,026 --> 00:44:32,267
before, you know,
813
00:44:32,268 --> 00:44:33,593
but this is a whole different
814
00:44:33,594 --> 00:44:35,371
level of awesomeness
right here.
815
00:44:35,531 --> 00:44:37,022
But you know what?
It feels good.
816
00:44:37,023 --> 00:44:39,950
I always--like Puff says, it
feels good to work with a team.
817
00:44:40,111 --> 00:44:41,377
I'm better with a team.
818
00:44:41,537 --> 00:44:43,528
And these people make me
better, and I just feel like--
819
00:44:43,529 --> 00:44:45,932
- Dawn Richard was selected
to be in the band Danity Kane.
820
00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:52,012
Later, she was in a second band
that Sean Combs produced,
821
00:44:52,173 --> 00:44:53,688
called Diddy - Dirty Money.
822
00:44:53,689 --> 00:44:56,440
- It feels good and to be here
and have y'all see
823
00:44:56,441 --> 00:44:58,602
how great we really are
and what we could be.
824
00:44:58,763 --> 00:45:00,596
- What people don't know
is behind the scenes,
825
00:45:00,757 --> 00:45:03,181
she was denied food.
826
00:45:03,182 --> 00:45:05,250
She was denied water.
827
00:45:05,251 --> 00:45:07,702
She was denied sleep.
828
00:45:07,703 --> 00:45:11,999
Dawn Richard is alleging that
Sean Combs threatened her...
829
00:45:15,261 --> 00:45:17,220
That he committed acts
of violence.
830
00:45:17,221 --> 00:45:19,356
- Get the fuck up, B, for real.
831
00:45:19,357 --> 00:45:21,417
- He would throw things
across the room--
832
00:45:21,577 --> 00:45:24,302
furniture,
studio equipment, laptops.
833
00:45:24,303 --> 00:45:26,062
He had a lot
of angry outbursts.
834
00:45:26,063 --> 00:45:28,532
- Damn.
- Cool.
835
00:45:28,533 --> 00:45:30,375
- He sexually assaulted her
836
00:45:30,537 --> 00:45:32,503
by groping and grabbing
parts of her body.
837
00:45:32,664 --> 00:45:35,229
And she witnessed
other women being groped
838
00:45:35,230 --> 00:45:37,256
and grabbed in front of her.
839
00:45:37,257 --> 00:45:39,609
If this is what the man
does in public,
840
00:45:39,610 --> 00:45:42,071
we can only imagine
what he does in private.
841
00:45:51,458 --> 00:45:53,247
- Honestly, I didn't want to
be around him
842
00:45:53,248 --> 00:45:54,333
unless there was cameras,
843
00:45:54,494 --> 00:45:56,401
because
after that one incident,
844
00:45:56,563 --> 00:45:58,254
which was very inappropriate...
845
00:46:04,696 --> 00:46:09,263
- Well, the incident--
basically, I was by myself.
846
00:46:09,264 --> 00:46:12,543
And I was...
847
00:46:14,455 --> 00:46:18,197
This is hard to talk about,
like, about this.
848
00:46:32,763 --> 00:46:37,017
- Well, the incident--
basically, I was by myself.
849
00:46:37,018 --> 00:46:39,820
And I was...
850
00:46:39,981 --> 00:46:43,273
Well, he touched me in a place
that he shouldn't have.
851
00:46:43,274 --> 00:46:45,551
That was inappropriate.
852
00:46:45,711 --> 00:46:48,379
And I felt...
853
00:46:48,539 --> 00:46:50,030
I felt intimidated.
854
00:46:50,031 --> 00:46:52,892
I felt like, oh, my God, what
the heck happened just now?
855
00:46:55,686 --> 00:46:58,538
I'm trying not to cry.
856
00:46:58,539 --> 00:47:00,233
I'm definitely nervous...
857
00:47:03,946 --> 00:47:07,472
Because like I said, I haven't
said anything for so long.
858
00:47:07,634 --> 00:47:09,299
And it's built up.
859
00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:13,228
It's been 20 years of going
through my mind, like...
860
00:47:13,389 --> 00:47:16,231
this has happened, that's
happened, this was stopped--
861
00:47:16,392 --> 00:47:18,659
mentally, like...
862
00:47:18,819 --> 00:47:20,160
draining.
863
00:47:29,471 --> 00:47:31,171
- For a victim
of sexual assault
864
00:47:31,332 --> 00:47:33,222
by a high-profile predator,
865
00:47:33,223 --> 00:47:35,650
everything changes
when they come forward.
866
00:47:35,651 --> 00:47:37,603
They're no longer known
for their own work,
867
00:47:37,763 --> 00:47:40,606
their own accomplishments,
their own hopes and dreams.
868
00:47:40,766 --> 00:47:42,507
They're just known in the media
869
00:47:42,669 --> 00:47:44,734
as the woman
who accuses this guy.
870
00:47:44,735 --> 00:47:47,313
And particularly, I think,
in the music industry,
871
00:47:47,473 --> 00:47:49,780
there's a lot of retribution.
872
00:47:49,781 --> 00:47:52,616
Who thinks
that they can fight somebody
873
00:47:52,617 --> 00:47:54,326
with that kind
of wealth, power?
874
00:47:54,327 --> 00:47:56,671
I think each person
has to make the calculation
875
00:47:56,672 --> 00:47:59,674
in her own mind--
is it worth coming forward?
876
00:47:59,675 --> 00:48:03,379
And everybody said, heck, no,
it's not worth it.
877
00:48:03,539 --> 00:48:05,631
I'm not doing this.
878
00:48:09,637 --> 00:48:12,261
- I met Puffy
on Howard's campus.
879
00:48:12,262 --> 00:48:15,365
I only got back in touch
with him years after,
880
00:48:15,366 --> 00:48:17,191
when he was starting this
production team
881
00:48:17,192 --> 00:48:18,818
called The Hitmen.
882
00:48:18,819 --> 00:48:21,404
It was told to the staff that
Puff was throwing a party
883
00:48:21,405 --> 00:48:22,380
at the Hamptons.
884
00:48:28,504 --> 00:48:30,239
- So I moved
to a new neighborhood,
885
00:48:30,399 --> 00:48:31,574
and they were like, well,
what's this guy doing,
886
00:48:31,734 --> 00:48:32,882
moving here in East Hampton?
887
00:48:32,883 --> 00:48:34,959
And I said, everybody,
come on over.
888
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,786
Come on over to the house
so y'all can get to know me.
889
00:48:36,787 --> 00:48:38,313
Let me invite some
of my friends from Harlem,
890
00:48:38,474 --> 00:48:40,666
from 145th Street.
891
00:48:40,826 --> 00:48:44,177
- I had absolutely no idea
what the Hamptons was about.
892
00:48:48,909 --> 00:48:50,301
We finally get out there.
893
00:48:50,461 --> 00:48:52,678
And I get to see Puffy's house
for the first time.
894
00:48:52,838 --> 00:48:56,406
He has a white mansion,
all-white glass from the back.
895
00:48:56,407 --> 00:48:59,560
And I'm like, wow, this is
for rich folks, you know,
896
00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:01,187
rich white folks
who got money.
897
00:49:01,347 --> 00:49:04,171
So that was different.
898
00:49:04,172 --> 00:49:06,465
- Yeah, I'm just trying
to enjoy life.
899
00:49:06,466 --> 00:49:08,844
This is a celebration of life.
900
00:49:09,005 --> 00:49:11,245
This is the legendary
white party.
901
00:49:11,246 --> 00:49:12,756
This is the real white party.
902
00:49:12,757 --> 00:49:14,824
Let's just start to get
our groove on in little bit.
903
00:49:14,825 --> 00:49:17,185
In an hour, we put
the kids away--it's all good.
904
00:49:17,346 --> 00:49:19,304
All right, DJ, let's hit it.
Let's do it.
905
00:49:21,742 --> 00:49:23,534
- Anybody
from the music industry,
906
00:49:23,694 --> 00:49:25,334
film industry,
movie execs or music execs,
907
00:49:25,371 --> 00:49:27,887
who lived out there,
they were invited as well.
908
00:49:27,888 --> 00:49:30,589
I remember meeting
Donald Trump in the party.
909
00:49:30,590 --> 00:49:31,792
It was crazy.
910
00:49:34,261 --> 00:49:36,345
- I didn't see anything
inappropriate
911
00:49:36,346 --> 00:49:38,848
when I was
at these after-after parties.
912
00:49:43,539 --> 00:49:45,705
- Uh, I--
913
00:49:45,706 --> 00:49:48,484
Oof. I'm not going to say
I saw a lot of it.
914
00:49:48,644 --> 00:49:50,635
It could have been
in another part
915
00:49:50,797 --> 00:49:53,112
of the sections or the rooms.
916
00:49:53,113 --> 00:49:56,641
What I saw was some weed,
you know what I mean?
917
00:49:56,803 --> 00:49:58,569
- Why wouldn't it be?
918
00:49:58,729 --> 00:50:00,496
People smoking weed,
people popping pills.
919
00:50:00,656 --> 00:50:02,406
That's a party.
920
00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:04,974
- I went to a lot
of Puffy parties in the '90s.
921
00:50:04,975 --> 00:50:07,128
These were the parties
everybody wanted to go to.
922
00:50:10,316 --> 00:50:11,615
- These were the parties
923
00:50:11,776 --> 00:50:15,011
that you needed
exclusive access to get into.
924
00:50:15,171 --> 00:50:19,915
But these weren't the parties
that people talk about now.
925
00:50:20,076 --> 00:50:22,768
The after-after party
926
00:50:22,928 --> 00:50:25,921
was something
that I had heard before,
927
00:50:26,082 --> 00:50:30,575
that maybe there were orgies
happening.
928
00:50:35,616 --> 00:50:36,782
- After party is something--
929
00:50:36,942 --> 00:50:38,908
That's common
in the music industry.
930
00:50:38,909 --> 00:50:42,187
People have after parties...
931
00:50:42,348 --> 00:50:43,289
but here's the thing.
932
00:50:43,449 --> 00:50:46,292
Everybody tend to say,
933
00:50:46,452 --> 00:50:48,342
all of a sudden,
934
00:50:48,343 --> 00:50:51,521
because it's a white party,
it's a freak-off.
935
00:50:51,522 --> 00:50:53,215
Like, come on, now.
936
00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:05,561
I'll be honest with you.
937
00:51:05,721 --> 00:51:07,462
I had no idea
what a freak-off was
938
00:51:07,623 --> 00:51:08,783
until I read the allegations.
939
00:51:15,656 --> 00:51:17,422
- People, when they think
of sex trafficking,
940
00:51:17,423 --> 00:51:20,008
they think of a woman being
dragged across state lines
941
00:51:20,009 --> 00:51:23,303
for sexual purposes
against her will.
942
00:51:23,304 --> 00:51:24,830
But in fact, the TVPA,
943
00:51:24,990 --> 00:51:26,956
the Trafficking Victims
Protection Act,
944
00:51:26,957 --> 00:51:30,435
talks about people being
enticed...
945
00:51:30,436 --> 00:51:32,737
recruited...
946
00:51:32,899 --> 00:51:34,889
or tricked...
947
00:51:34,890 --> 00:51:38,344
into sexual behavior
or attempted sexual behavior
948
00:51:38,504 --> 00:51:40,262
for commercial purposes.
949
00:51:42,650 --> 00:51:44,974
It includes people
in a workplace
950
00:51:44,975 --> 00:51:47,603
being coerced
into sexual behavior
951
00:51:47,763 --> 00:51:50,231
in order to keep getting
their paycheck.
952
00:53:58,986 --> 00:54:02,655
- I mean, if it's true,
then, you know...
953
00:54:08,045 --> 00:54:10,246
I'd be highly disappointed.
954
00:54:12,299 --> 00:54:15,000
- So I've always been asked
the question, why?
955
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,802
And...
956
00:54:17,803 --> 00:54:21,498
I don't know the answer to why.
957
00:54:21,592 --> 00:54:25,810
But I truly believe it all
goes back to childhood.
958
00:54:31,577 --> 00:54:32,917
So here's the deal.
959
00:54:33,079 --> 00:54:35,419
Because Sean had no dad,
960
00:54:35,420 --> 00:54:38,498
all he had was his mom.
961
00:54:38,499 --> 00:54:41,150
Sean's house, our house,
962
00:54:41,151 --> 00:54:44,104
there was always things
going on.
963
00:54:44,264 --> 00:54:46,831
On the weekend,
you partied in the house,
964
00:54:46,832 --> 00:54:48,784
and we did that a lot.
965
00:54:48,944 --> 00:54:51,611
He was around all type
of alcohol.
966
00:54:51,772 --> 00:54:53,563
He was around reefer smoke.
967
00:54:53,724 --> 00:54:56,792
He was around drug addicts,
around lesbians,
968
00:54:56,952 --> 00:54:58,669
around homosexuals.
969
00:54:58,829 --> 00:55:00,170
He was around pimps
and pushers.
970
00:55:00,331 --> 00:55:02,122
That was just
who was in our house.
971
00:55:02,282 --> 00:55:04,098
People that
attended the parties
972
00:55:04,099 --> 00:55:06,100
were from Harlem
and from the streets.
973
00:55:06,101 --> 00:55:07,977
- I wasn't
at the Janice Combs parties,
974
00:55:07,978 --> 00:55:10,055
but some things I heard.
975
00:55:10,215 --> 00:55:12,106
She had, like,
a little crew of chicks
976
00:55:12,107 --> 00:55:13,783
that would come around,
and, you know,
977
00:55:13,784 --> 00:55:16,786
she made sure...
978
00:55:16,787 --> 00:55:20,039
everybody was comfortable.
979
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,399
- At night, it wouldn't be
a thing
980
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,571
to mistakenly walk
into one of the bedrooms,
981
00:55:25,731 --> 00:55:27,823
and you got a couple in there
butt-naked.
982
00:55:29,827 --> 00:55:34,079
That's what we were privy to.
This is what we were fed.
983
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,056
Was it desensitizing us?
I'm sure it was.
984
00:55:37,057 --> 00:55:38,834
Were we aware of it?
No.
985
00:55:38,994 --> 00:55:42,037
That was just Saturday night.
986
00:55:42,197 --> 00:55:46,315
- If you grow up in a very
sexualized environment,
987
00:55:46,316 --> 00:55:48,919
that's going to shape
their sexual template,
988
00:55:49,079 --> 00:55:51,847
in terms of what
are appropriate boundaries,
989
00:55:52,007 --> 00:55:54,633
what's acceptable.
990
00:55:57,337 --> 00:56:00,779
And when you have
a lot of unresolved trauma,
991
00:56:00,780 --> 00:56:03,657
the trauma doesn't go away
992
00:56:03,658 --> 00:56:05,977
just because you have
all that access
993
00:56:06,072 --> 00:56:08,921
to wealth and power
994
00:56:08,922 --> 00:56:11,108
and no guardrails.
995
00:56:11,202 --> 00:56:14,585
The trauma is there,
and it's still unresolved.
996
00:56:17,357 --> 00:56:19,724
And you just have
more resources
997
00:56:19,725 --> 00:56:22,127
to do more damage with.
998
00:56:30,262 --> 00:56:33,362
- I would just like
to have some privacy
999
00:56:33,363 --> 00:56:36,975
because I've become
incredibly reclusive.
1000
00:56:40,772 --> 00:56:43,649
I've just been
in isolation for six years
1001
00:56:43,809 --> 00:56:47,861
because I'm afraid that they
might come get me for speaking.
1002
00:57:05,180 --> 00:57:07,881
- I am a civil litigator
1003
00:57:08,041 --> 00:57:10,608
who has filed several cases
1004
00:57:10,609 --> 00:57:12,109
against Sean Combs
1005
00:57:12,110 --> 00:57:13,936
for sexual assault
1006
00:57:13,937 --> 00:57:15,512
in civil court.
1007
00:57:15,513 --> 00:57:18,892
I have been sounding the alarm
about Mr. Combs
1008
00:57:19,052 --> 00:57:20,943
for years.
1009
00:57:20,944 --> 00:57:22,519
- When they think
about my album,
1010
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,224
I want them to think
about dancing or making love.
1011
00:57:26,384 --> 00:57:28,701
- My most recent client
has alleged
1012
00:57:28,702 --> 00:57:31,304
that she was brutally
gang-raped
1013
00:57:31,465 --> 00:57:35,033
by Diddy and his friends.
1014
00:57:37,163 --> 00:57:39,286
What's in front of me right now
is the complaint
1015
00:57:39,287 --> 00:57:42,080
that I filed in California
federal court
1016
00:57:42,081 --> 00:57:43,966
in the Northern District.
1017
00:57:43,967 --> 00:57:45,419
We had
several defendants listed.
1018
00:57:45,579 --> 00:57:48,121
Of course, we have Diddy,
because he's the mastermind.
1019
00:57:48,281 --> 00:57:49,623
He's the orchestrator.
1020
00:57:49,783 --> 00:57:51,633
None of this happens
without him.
1021
00:57:51,793 --> 00:57:54,085
Then we had
his right-hand woman.
1022
00:57:54,180 --> 00:57:56,138
That's Kristina Khorram.
1023
00:58:04,172 --> 00:58:06,190
- And then there was
another individual.
1024
00:58:06,350 --> 00:58:09,443
His name was Shane Pearce.
1025
00:58:09,603 --> 00:58:13,170
We've come to find him to be
like a scouter, if you will.
1026
00:58:13,171 --> 00:58:15,699
He scouts potential victims
1027
00:58:15,859 --> 00:58:18,351
to bring to Diddy.
1028
00:58:18,512 --> 00:58:21,279
This starts out
in February 2018.
1029
00:58:21,439 --> 00:58:25,433
Ashley is at a bar,
and they begin to hang out.
1030
00:58:25,434 --> 00:58:29,937
And Shane gets Diddy
on the phone.
1031
00:58:29,938 --> 00:58:31,364
This is a FaceTime call.
1032
00:58:31,525 --> 00:58:34,968
So he's showing everybody
Diddy on a FaceTime.
1033
00:58:35,128 --> 00:58:38,821
And as you can imagine,
everybody's pretty excited.
1034
00:58:41,885 --> 00:58:44,127
- Yeah.
1035
00:58:44,288 --> 00:58:48,131
He contacted me,
and we hung out a few times.
1036
00:58:48,292 --> 00:58:51,935
- On March 23rd, my client
was invited by Shane Pearce
1037
00:58:52,095 --> 00:58:53,711
to his home.
1038
00:58:53,712 --> 00:58:55,697
So she went to the home.
1039
00:58:55,857 --> 00:58:57,265
- He went into the kitchen
1040
00:58:57,426 --> 00:59:00,117
and got me a glass of water
1041
00:59:00,118 --> 00:59:02,746
because I was thirsty.
1042
00:59:02,906 --> 00:59:07,475
I had drank a couple sips
of the water,
1043
00:59:07,476 --> 00:59:11,964
and I was feeling
kind of weird.
1044
00:59:13,883 --> 00:59:16,233
I was feeling...
1045
00:59:16,234 --> 00:59:19,311
wobbly, a little confused.
1046
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,390
I was kind of just questioning
1047
00:59:23,391 --> 00:59:27,319
why my brain
wasn't as sharp as normal.
1048
00:59:30,031 --> 00:59:31,281
- Approximately
ten minutes after,
1049
00:59:31,282 --> 00:59:33,024
Diddy entered the home
1050
00:59:33,025 --> 00:59:35,928
in a grand
'ready to party' manner.
1051
00:59:36,090 --> 00:59:38,506
Along with Diddy
was his bodyguard,
1052
00:59:38,507 --> 00:59:42,510
a woman identified
as Kristina Khorram,
1053
00:59:42,511 --> 00:59:45,789
and another person
who we believe was friends
1054
00:59:45,949 --> 00:59:48,340
with Shane.
1055
00:59:48,341 --> 00:59:50,544
Shane partially undressed
Ashley,
1056
00:59:50,704 --> 00:59:55,022
and then Diddy removed
the remainder of her clothing.
1057
00:59:55,023 --> 00:59:57,024
Diddy retrieved
a bottle of liquid
1058
00:59:57,025 --> 00:59:59,127
from a large fanny pack.
1059
00:59:59,287 --> 01:00:01,204
Ashley soon realized
that the substance
1060
01:00:01,365 --> 01:00:03,265
was oil/lubricant.
1061
01:00:05,311 --> 01:00:08,211
- Sean Combs had a knife
1062
01:00:08,372 --> 01:00:11,288
and had it inside my mouth.
1063
01:00:11,289 --> 01:00:14,467
He said he was going
to cut my cheeks
1064
01:00:14,628 --> 01:00:17,029
and give me a Glasgow smile.
1065
01:00:19,383 --> 01:00:24,036
Kristina Khorram
told him that...
1066
01:00:26,456 --> 01:00:30,626
His clientele--they would
prefer it if I looked...
1067
01:00:32,570 --> 01:00:34,129
Normal.
1068
01:00:36,057 --> 01:00:38,891
At one point, Sean Combs--
1069
01:00:38,892 --> 01:00:41,419
he picked up a TV remote
1070
01:00:41,579 --> 01:00:43,821
and...
1071
01:00:43,822 --> 01:00:46,499
raped me vaginally
1072
01:00:46,660 --> 01:00:51,229
with that object, violently.
1073
01:00:58,864 --> 01:01:00,262
- Then it says,
1074
01:01:00,263 --> 01:01:02,539
Diddy is sitting not too far
from the bed,
1075
01:01:02,540 --> 01:01:05,417
and she said he has his phone
and his dick in his hand
1076
01:01:05,418 --> 01:01:08,846
and is recording
and jacking off
1077
01:01:08,847 --> 01:01:10,999
at the same time.
1078
01:01:11,159 --> 01:01:12,501
This is his kink.
1079
01:01:12,661 --> 01:01:14,920
This is the thing
that gets him off.
1080
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:16,204
It's like trophies.
1081
01:01:19,566 --> 01:01:22,935
- They said they could ship
me off and sell me
1082
01:01:22,936 --> 01:01:25,437
to anyone in the world
1083
01:01:25,438 --> 01:01:27,540
and that I would never
be seen again
1084
01:01:27,701 --> 01:01:30,442
by my parents
or my loved ones.
1085
01:01:30,443 --> 01:01:32,688
And they were taking me
that night.
1086
01:01:34,558 --> 01:01:39,201
I just uncontrollably
was sobbing.
1087
01:01:42,029 --> 01:01:45,158
I was in a catatonic state
1088
01:01:45,318 --> 01:01:48,135
once they started raping me,
1089
01:01:48,136 --> 01:01:52,565
and I was just trying...
1090
01:01:52,726 --> 01:01:57,245
to get through it so
I could get out of there.
1091
01:01:57,405 --> 01:01:59,715
That's when they went
outside to smoke.
1092
01:02:01,585 --> 01:02:05,503
When I finally was able to get
the strength
1093
01:02:05,663 --> 01:02:08,230
to even sit up,
1094
01:02:08,231 --> 01:02:09,731
my clothes were missing.
1095
01:02:09,732 --> 01:02:13,511
My purse, my keys, my phone--
all gone.
1096
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,917
At that point,
I ran to the neighbor's house.
1097
01:02:22,180 --> 01:02:26,072
Later, the neighbor told me
he did call the cops.
1098
01:02:26,073 --> 01:02:29,953
And that's when a sheriff
showed up at the door.
1099
01:02:30,113 --> 01:02:34,431
This sheriff didn't offer me
an ambulance.
1100
01:02:34,432 --> 01:02:39,037
He didn't offer me a ride
to the police station.
1101
01:02:39,197 --> 01:02:43,840
He just basically told me
to find my own way home.
1102
01:02:43,841 --> 01:02:47,594
There's just something very off
about his demeanor.
1103
01:02:47,595 --> 01:02:50,298
- And the Contra Costa
Sheriff's Department
1104
01:02:50,458 --> 01:02:52,625
released a statement and said,
1105
01:02:52,786 --> 01:02:55,202
yeah, she did file
a police report that night.
1106
01:02:55,203 --> 01:02:57,729
We can confirm
1107
01:02:57,730 --> 01:03:00,984
that a report
was made March 23, 2018,
1108
01:03:01,144 --> 01:03:03,711
but that "we take
these matters seriously"
1109
01:03:03,712 --> 01:03:05,947
and investigated
and that it was unfounded.
1110
01:03:13,156 --> 01:03:17,250
- When I got home, I just...
1111
01:03:17,410 --> 01:03:20,185
crawled into bed.
1112
01:03:20,186 --> 01:03:23,331
I just was catatonic
for, like, about three days
1113
01:03:23,491 --> 01:03:27,585
before I could get up
and feed myself.
1114
01:03:27,745 --> 01:03:32,389
I've become
incredibly reclusive.
1115
01:03:32,390 --> 01:03:36,493
I don't trust anyone...
1116
01:03:36,494 --> 01:03:40,647
other than, like, my parents.
1117
01:03:40,648 --> 01:03:43,751
So I've just been in isolation.
1118
01:03:43,752 --> 01:03:46,587
I've barely gone
out of the house.
1119
01:03:46,588 --> 01:03:49,357
I've just been living in fear
1120
01:03:49,517 --> 01:03:54,112
because it's just
a bunch of powerful people.
1121
01:03:54,272 --> 01:03:56,039
- They did this with intent.
1122
01:03:56,199 --> 01:03:59,666
I truly believe they intended
on taking her
1123
01:03:59,667 --> 01:04:02,402
and her never being seen again.
1124
01:04:02,403 --> 01:04:04,989
This is what you do
when your ultimate goal
1125
01:04:05,150 --> 01:04:06,482
is to sex-traffic them.
1126
01:04:06,483 --> 01:04:08,508
They were trying
to break her in,
1127
01:04:08,509 --> 01:04:10,303
which is a term
I'm familiar with
1128
01:04:10,463 --> 01:04:12,264
from knowing pimp culture.
1129
01:04:14,359 --> 01:04:17,534
When you want to bring in
a new hooker or a prostitute,
1130
01:04:17,535 --> 01:04:20,138
you got to break her in.
1131
01:04:20,298 --> 01:04:22,315
Typically, you break her in
1132
01:04:22,475 --> 01:04:25,117
by having her have sex
in a gang bang,
1133
01:04:25,118 --> 01:04:27,320
with multiple men at once.
1134
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,949
You've taken everything
from her.
1135
01:04:31,109 --> 01:04:32,275
They broke her.
1136
01:04:48,718 --> 01:04:51,393
- Unchecked wealth and power
is very dangerous
1137
01:04:51,394 --> 01:04:52,894
in our culture.
1138
01:04:52,895 --> 01:04:56,389
It allows people to get away
with horrific behavior.
1139
01:04:58,484 --> 01:05:00,335
- All throughout his career,
1140
01:05:00,336 --> 01:05:03,556
he was known to commit
acts of violence himself...
1141
01:05:03,650 --> 01:05:05,683
- What's your plea today?
1142
01:05:05,843 --> 01:05:07,560
- To threaten people
with violence.
1143
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,354
- Can you stop now?
- Huh?
1144
01:05:09,514 --> 01:05:12,073
- He was known
to be very vindictive.
1145
01:05:16,671 --> 01:05:18,595
- Fan favorite up in here,
of course.
1146
01:05:18,596 --> 01:05:20,698
It's the one and only
Biggie Smalls.
1147
01:05:20,858 --> 01:05:23,225
I understand that your album is
going to be dropping in July,
1148
01:05:23,226 --> 01:05:25,128
because I was checking
out the Bad Boy team,
1149
01:05:25,288 --> 01:05:26,928
and Puff Daddy was letting
everybody know--
1150
01:05:26,929 --> 01:05:29,806
- There have been rumors
that Diddy
1151
01:05:29,807 --> 01:05:33,485
might have had something to do
with Biggie's death.
1152
01:05:33,486 --> 01:05:35,639
- This is a picture of me
1153
01:05:35,799 --> 01:05:38,866
the night BIG was murdered.
1154
01:05:38,867 --> 01:05:40,718
The week in which BIG
was murdered,
1155
01:05:40,878 --> 01:05:42,870
he was just acting
real anxious
1156
01:05:42,871 --> 01:05:45,047
and trying to get BIG
at this party.
1157
01:05:45,208 --> 01:05:46,474
And it was crazy,
1158
01:05:46,634 --> 01:05:49,877
whereas BIG was telling people
he had to be in London.
1159
01:05:49,878 --> 01:05:53,130
But Puff was telling people,
he ain't going to London,
1160
01:05:53,131 --> 01:05:55,075
that whole week.
1161
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,238
I'm sitting up
at the Beverly Hills Hotel,
1162
01:06:00,398 --> 01:06:02,139
and I get a phone call.
1163
01:06:02,140 --> 01:06:03,917
It's about 9:00.
1164
01:06:04,077 --> 01:06:07,761
And they say, Gene, get ready,
we going to the "Vibe" party.
1165
01:06:07,762 --> 01:06:10,748
I was like,
we're going to this party?
1166
01:06:10,908 --> 01:06:13,575
We don't even have no security.
1167
01:06:13,576 --> 01:06:16,054
I say, yo, Puff,
I got some intel, bruh.
1168
01:06:16,214 --> 01:06:17,479
He said, what?
1169
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,507
I say, yo, man, if we go
to this party tonight,
1170
01:06:19,667 --> 01:06:21,259
one of us
is going to get killed.
1171
01:06:21,419 --> 01:06:22,835
Somebody going to die,
1172
01:06:22,996 --> 01:06:26,488
because now we have
East Coast-West Coast beefs.
1173
01:06:26,489 --> 01:06:29,741
He said, yo, Gene, I don't
want to hear that shit.
1174
01:06:29,742 --> 01:06:31,743
I said, you don't want
to hear that shit?
1175
01:06:31,744 --> 01:06:33,170
So we all jump in the car.
1176
01:06:36,702 --> 01:06:38,851
- When Tupac was killed,
1177
01:06:39,012 --> 01:06:41,578
there was a lot of rumors
1178
01:06:41,579 --> 01:06:44,124
that Biggie and Puffy
were behind it.
1179
01:06:48,446 --> 01:06:51,188
- I was in a car with Puff.
BIG was in his own car.
1180
01:06:54,952 --> 01:06:58,221
And next thing you know,
you heard, pow, pow, pow, pow.
1181
01:06:58,381 --> 01:06:59,596
They shooting at BIG, bruh!
1182
01:07:04,788 --> 01:07:06,304
We run up there because
they say they taking BIG
1183
01:07:06,464 --> 01:07:07,604
to the hospital.
1184
01:07:07,605 --> 01:07:09,731
I told them, whatever y'all do,
1185
01:07:09,732 --> 01:07:12,485
do not let him go to sleep.
1186
01:07:12,645 --> 01:07:16,288
Talk to him. Keep him up.
Don't let him go to sleep.
1187
01:07:16,289 --> 01:07:18,316
Keep him talking.
1188
01:07:18,476 --> 01:07:21,618
And Kenny said, BIG, I'm going
to get you to the hospital.
1189
01:07:21,619 --> 01:07:24,871
And BIG said, just do it.
1190
01:07:24,872 --> 01:07:28,608
That's the last thing
I heard BIG say.
1191
01:07:28,609 --> 01:07:31,755
And they said the hospital
was two blocks away,
1192
01:07:31,915 --> 01:07:34,332
and that's
the longest two blocks
1193
01:07:34,492 --> 01:07:36,233
I ever seen in my life.
1194
01:07:40,813 --> 01:07:42,739
So Puff ran out
the hospital door,
1195
01:07:42,740 --> 01:07:44,342
and he grabbed my arm.
1196
01:07:44,502 --> 01:07:46,827
He said, Gene, we got to pray!
1197
01:07:46,828 --> 01:07:49,571
We got to pray! We got to pray!
1198
01:07:49,572 --> 01:07:51,649
And I knocked his hands
off of me.
1199
01:07:51,810 --> 01:07:53,500
I said, pray for what?
1200
01:07:53,501 --> 01:07:55,603
That nigga's dead, bruh.
1201
01:07:55,763 --> 01:07:58,606
He just was stunned.
1202
01:07:58,766 --> 01:08:00,683
Like, he had this look
in his eye,
1203
01:08:00,844 --> 01:08:03,119
like he couldn't believe it,
1204
01:08:03,279 --> 01:08:05,246
that he was dead.
1205
01:08:06,792 --> 01:08:08,500
He couldn't believe it.
1206
01:08:31,857 --> 01:08:34,607
- Feelings can't change facts,
1207
01:08:34,608 --> 01:08:36,611
but facts can change feelings.
1208
01:08:38,539 --> 01:08:42,165
I think that he placed BIG
in the atmosphere.
1209
01:08:42,166 --> 01:08:46,246
So did he directly have
something to do with it?
1210
01:08:48,558 --> 01:08:49,749
He could have.
1211
01:08:58,668 --> 01:09:00,835
For many a-years,
1212
01:09:00,995 --> 01:09:05,113
I couldn't fight back
the tears...
1213
01:09:05,114 --> 01:09:07,892
knowing that young man
was murdered.
1214
01:09:12,073 --> 01:09:14,849
- I stopped working with him
early part of 2005,
1215
01:09:15,009 --> 01:09:17,417
because me and his mama got
into it.
1216
01:09:17,418 --> 01:09:18,794
- Janice,
right over here, please.
1217
01:09:18,795 --> 01:09:21,355
- Hey, Janice.
- Janice, right here.
1218
01:09:21,515 --> 01:09:24,474
- Puff mother
tried to degrade me.
1219
01:09:24,475 --> 01:09:28,437
She would ask me to do things
for her, like go to her car,
1220
01:09:28,598 --> 01:09:30,413
get this, get that.
1221
01:09:30,414 --> 01:09:33,091
And I wouldn't do that.
1222
01:09:33,092 --> 01:09:35,119
What the hell you
asking me to stop
1223
01:09:35,279 --> 01:09:38,339
from watching your son's safety
to go do something for you?
1224
01:09:40,210 --> 01:09:42,552
So one day, I was sitting
by Puff's office.
1225
01:09:42,712 --> 01:09:45,428
And she said, Gene, I need
for you to go to my car
1226
01:09:45,429 --> 01:09:46,530
and get this food out.
1227
01:09:46,531 --> 01:09:48,057
I said, I'm not here for that.
1228
01:09:48,218 --> 01:09:51,109
And then she start rambling,
start, like,
1229
01:09:51,110 --> 01:09:55,363
yo, everybody does
what I ask them to do...
1230
01:09:55,364 --> 01:09:56,891
except you.
1231
01:09:57,051 --> 01:09:58,818
What makes you so special?
1232
01:09:58,978 --> 01:10:00,570
And then Puff just came
out his office.
1233
01:10:00,730 --> 01:10:02,620
Why are you always messing
with Gene?
1234
01:10:02,621 --> 01:10:05,399
Leave Gene alone.
1235
01:10:05,559 --> 01:10:08,077
She just was looking.
1236
01:10:08,238 --> 01:10:11,906
And then she said, yo, yo,
I'm tired of this, man.
1237
01:10:12,066 --> 01:10:14,659
And I said,
yo, I'm tired of it, too.
1238
01:10:14,819 --> 01:10:16,661
And I walked out
and never came back.
1239
01:10:22,252 --> 01:10:24,219
- I wanted to show
you something.
1240
01:10:25,730 --> 01:10:27,680
This is a restroom-plus.
1241
01:10:30,026 --> 01:10:33,827
Can you tell me
what the plus is?
1242
01:10:33,828 --> 01:10:35,712
- No.
- The plus.
1243
01:10:41,610 --> 01:10:42,687
Ah.
1244
01:10:46,609 --> 01:10:48,050
That's the plus.
1245
01:10:48,051 --> 01:10:49,718
In the back of my house,
1246
01:10:49,719 --> 01:10:51,696
that's where I keep
my trophies.
1247
01:10:51,856 --> 01:10:54,198
That's where I keep
my platinum and gold plaques.
1248
01:10:54,358 --> 01:10:57,026
I'd probably say
minimum 10, maximum 15.
1249
01:10:57,187 --> 01:10:59,627
This was my first-ever
platinum plaque--
1250
01:10:59,628 --> 01:11:02,731
Notorious B.I.G.
1251
01:11:02,732 --> 01:11:05,183
I co-executive produced
on that album.
1252
01:11:05,184 --> 01:11:08,436
I got that when I was
23 years old, I think.
1253
01:11:08,437 --> 01:11:09,264
Yeah.
1254
01:11:17,056 --> 01:11:20,049
- After seeing
a few friends die,
1255
01:11:20,210 --> 01:11:22,735
you wake up one day,
and one got shot in the head.
1256
01:11:24,388 --> 01:11:29,207
Then you go, and then you
have another raw talent,
1257
01:11:29,208 --> 01:11:31,986
this fat kid
from Brooklyn, you know,
1258
01:11:32,146 --> 01:11:35,639
and he gets shot dead...
1259
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,966
not even 25 years old.
1260
01:11:37,967 --> 01:11:41,070
And in my case,
1261
01:11:41,231 --> 01:11:43,822
after having
extortion attempts on me,
1262
01:11:43,983 --> 01:11:46,000
having guns pulled out,
1263
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,977
having to deal
with so much death...
1264
01:11:50,154 --> 01:11:52,805
Yeah, it wasn't cool no more.
1265
01:11:52,806 --> 01:11:54,759
You talk about fight or flight.
1266
01:11:54,919 --> 01:11:56,585
I took flight.
1267
01:12:09,433 --> 01:12:13,326
- So there was this thing
we used to do as kids,
1268
01:12:13,327 --> 01:12:16,329
and they were called
midnight snacks, right?
1269
01:12:16,330 --> 01:12:19,208
And the midnight snacks
was usually Pop-Tarts,
1270
01:12:19,369 --> 01:12:23,037
flavored strawberry,
no frosting, extra butter,
1271
01:12:23,197 --> 01:12:25,647
coming right out the toaster,
flaming-hot,
1272
01:12:25,648 --> 01:12:28,867
with a tall glass of milk
with ice.
1273
01:12:29,028 --> 01:12:32,880
So I would send him Pop-Tarts
periodically over the years,
1274
01:12:32,974 --> 01:12:34,914
as a birthday gift,
1275
01:12:34,915 --> 01:12:37,058
to his office,
wherever it was.
1276
01:12:37,059 --> 01:12:38,709
But he would never respond.
1277
01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:43,132
When I decided to leave
the industry--
1278
01:12:43,293 --> 01:12:46,560
and this was about '99--
1279
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,739
that's when
we communicated less,
1280
01:12:49,899 --> 01:12:53,242
we saw each other less, because
I took the fork in the road.
1281
01:12:53,403 --> 01:12:56,579
And now this is
who he turned out to be.
1282
01:13:04,305 --> 01:13:07,481
- My last encounter
with Kimberly--
1283
01:13:07,482 --> 01:13:11,059
we were at Quincy's premiere
for his Christmas special,
1284
01:13:11,060 --> 01:13:13,162
"Holiday Calendar."
1285
01:13:13,323 --> 01:13:15,313
Sean came.
1286
01:13:18,453 --> 01:13:21,027
She said to me,
this is probably the best day
1287
01:13:21,028 --> 01:13:23,106
in a very long time,
1288
01:13:23,266 --> 01:13:26,851
seeing all of us
in the same place.
1289
01:13:27,011 --> 01:13:28,277
She was looking amazing.
1290
01:13:28,438 --> 01:13:30,279
She was healthy.
She was fantastic.
1291
01:13:30,440 --> 01:13:32,990
It was two or three weeks
prior to, um...
1292
01:13:34,910 --> 01:13:36,685
Her...
1293
01:13:36,846 --> 01:13:38,788
murder.
1294
01:13:38,948 --> 01:13:41,040
Am I supposed to say
"allegedly"?
1295
01:13:43,168 --> 01:13:47,004
November 15th,
a day I'll never forget...
1296
01:13:48,266 --> 01:13:51,173
I was on my way to film
1297
01:13:51,174 --> 01:13:54,427
the opening packages
for the BET Awards.
1298
01:13:54,428 --> 01:13:57,930
Phone rings,
and it's a dear friend of mine.
1299
01:13:57,931 --> 01:13:59,783
And...
1300
01:13:59,784 --> 01:14:02,895
she says,
did you hear about Kimberly?
1301
01:14:04,365 --> 01:14:05,964
And I said,
what about Kimberly?
1302
01:14:06,125 --> 01:14:07,865
I just saw her.
1303
01:14:07,866 --> 01:14:10,895
She says, I don't know,
1304
01:14:11,055 --> 01:14:14,697
but I've heard
that Kimberly has died.
1305
01:14:25,086 --> 01:14:28,987
So you're having my baby...
1306
01:14:29,148 --> 01:14:31,990
and it means so much to me.
1307
01:14:32,151 --> 01:14:34,892
There's nothing more precious
1308
01:14:34,893 --> 01:14:37,671
than to raise a family.
1309
01:14:37,831 --> 01:14:40,657
If there's any doubt
in your mind,
1310
01:14:40,658 --> 01:14:42,718
you can count on me.
1311
01:14:45,264 --> 01:14:47,488
And that's just a day
1312
01:14:47,489 --> 01:14:51,068
that will never,
never leave my mind...
1313
01:14:53,414 --> 01:14:56,664
And just that empty feeling
of, like...
1314
01:14:56,665 --> 01:14:58,466
nah...
1315
01:14:58,467 --> 01:15:02,497
something is not
right with this.
1316
01:15:04,918 --> 01:15:07,877
- Kim Porter
had been found dead at home,
1317
01:15:08,037 --> 01:15:11,956
and an autopsy showed
that it was from complications
1318
01:15:12,116 --> 01:15:14,182
from pneumonia.
1319
01:15:14,183 --> 01:15:16,719
She was young.
She was 47 years old.
1320
01:15:16,879 --> 01:15:19,437
- Who is dying from pneumonia?
1321
01:15:19,438 --> 01:15:23,015
Seriously, pneumonia,
and to die so quickly?
1322
01:15:23,016 --> 01:15:26,044
Like, people get pneumonia
every day and don't die.
1323
01:15:26,205 --> 01:15:28,272
That doesn't seem
like a natural cause.
1324
01:15:36,215 --> 01:15:37,556
- Kim dying is one
1325
01:15:37,717 --> 01:15:39,382
of those "stop you
in your tracks" moments,
1326
01:15:39,383 --> 01:15:41,536
especially if you know her.
1327
01:15:44,415 --> 01:15:48,290
And the part about it which
is so spaghetti to me is,
1328
01:15:48,291 --> 01:15:50,169
I don't think I want to know
at this point
1329
01:15:50,329 --> 01:15:53,322
because there's
so many different images
1330
01:15:53,483 --> 01:15:55,299
that have been put in my mind.
1331
01:16:00,431 --> 01:16:03,156
- This story
has become interesting
1332
01:16:03,157 --> 01:16:06,984
in several continents.
1333
01:16:06,985 --> 01:16:10,129
For the record, I've received
more than 40 inquiries
1334
01:16:10,130 --> 01:16:12,415
from production companies,
networks,
1335
01:16:12,416 --> 01:16:16,378
since brother Sean's
incarceration, to participate
1336
01:16:16,379 --> 01:16:20,173
in everyone's documentary
or something.
1337
01:16:20,174 --> 01:16:21,600
I'm gonna keep it
a buck with you.
1338
01:16:21,761 --> 01:16:23,277
I'm even surprised that
I'm sitting here right now
1339
01:16:23,437 --> 01:16:25,002
having this conversation.
1340
01:16:25,003 --> 01:16:28,457
But I do think at least
I owe it to Kimberly
1341
01:16:28,618 --> 01:16:31,335
to share just a small portion
of her truth.
1342
01:16:35,499 --> 01:16:38,340
After Sean begins
to see Kimberly,
1343
01:16:38,341 --> 01:16:40,219
Kimberly and I remain friends.
1344
01:16:40,379 --> 01:16:44,122
She started to confide in me.
1345
01:16:44,283 --> 01:16:47,301
What she did say is,
look, something's not right.
1346
01:16:47,461 --> 01:16:49,395
His soul has gone
completely dark,
1347
01:16:49,555 --> 01:16:52,815
like he's just not there.
1348
01:16:52,975 --> 01:16:54,850
Yeah.
1349
01:16:55,010 --> 01:16:56,209
Yeah, yeah.
1350
01:16:56,210 --> 01:16:58,211
She made me promise
1351
01:16:58,212 --> 01:17:01,890
on our son
Quincy Taylor Brown's life
1352
01:17:02,051 --> 01:17:03,616
not to ever reveal
1353
01:17:03,617 --> 01:17:07,204
because she was
in complete fear of my life.
1354
01:17:09,058 --> 01:17:12,550
What I do know and what
I can share at this stage
1355
01:17:12,551 --> 01:17:15,153
is that before her death,
1356
01:17:15,314 --> 01:17:18,007
she was keeping a diary
and things of that nature.
1357
01:17:18,167 --> 01:17:21,910
Someone got the pass code
to her phone and her computer.
1358
01:17:22,071 --> 01:17:24,413
And they found out
that she was writing
1359
01:17:24,574 --> 01:17:27,091
what was going on
behind closed doors.
1360
01:17:27,251 --> 01:17:28,509
The public had no idea.
1361
01:17:28,669 --> 01:17:30,643
It was happening right
in front of everybody's eyes.
1362
01:17:30,644 --> 01:17:33,064
But there's a lot of people
who turned a blind eye.
1363
01:17:39,012 --> 01:17:42,180
- There was a lot of talk,
a lot of rumors
1364
01:17:42,341 --> 01:17:43,357
that Diddy might have had
1365
01:17:43,517 --> 01:17:45,434
something to do
with Kim's death.
1366
01:17:45,595 --> 01:17:47,385
There are people
who have said,
1367
01:17:47,386 --> 01:17:49,587
well, she knew
too much about him,
1368
01:17:49,588 --> 01:17:51,664
and, she was about
to reveal all.
1369
01:17:51,665 --> 01:17:54,225
Absolutely no proof,
no evidence,
1370
01:17:54,226 --> 01:17:56,420
nothing of the sort.
1371
01:17:56,580 --> 01:17:58,921
You know, there are a lot of
conspiracy theories out there
1372
01:17:58,922 --> 01:18:00,374
but no proof.
1373
01:18:00,534 --> 01:18:04,679
And the autopsy report showed
that it was from pneumonia.
1374
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:19,191
- Let's just say there's a lot
that goes on in the industry,
1375
01:18:19,192 --> 01:18:21,369
which is not my job to uncover,
1376
01:18:21,370 --> 01:18:25,197
but it's something that's been
going on in the industry,
1377
01:18:25,198 --> 01:18:29,078
and those who speak about it
usually meet their demise.
1378
01:18:29,238 --> 01:18:33,407
- Uptown Records started
with five people--
1379
01:18:33,567 --> 01:18:37,143
Andre Harrell,
Al B. Sure!, Heavy D,
1380
01:18:37,144 --> 01:18:38,954
and Puffy.
1381
01:18:39,114 --> 01:18:42,717
And Kim was
the longest-working employee.
1382
01:18:45,404 --> 01:18:47,645
Heavy D was found dead,
heart attack.
1383
01:18:47,646 --> 01:18:49,974
Andre Harrell, heart attack.
1384
01:18:52,728 --> 01:18:54,603
- This person
was telling the story.
1385
01:18:54,764 --> 01:18:56,654
This person
was writing a book.
1386
01:18:56,655 --> 01:18:59,108
This person's
about to tell the truth.
1387
01:18:59,268 --> 01:19:03,195
Why is everybody dead?
1388
01:19:04,990 --> 01:19:07,239
Oh, it's a coincidence.
1389
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:08,993
Get the fuck out of here.
1390
01:19:09,153 --> 01:19:12,645
- The only two left
are Puffy and Al,
1391
01:19:12,646 --> 01:19:15,723
and Al almost died.
1392
01:19:15,724 --> 01:19:18,827
- And you'll really understand
how I ended up in a coma.
1393
01:19:35,872 --> 01:19:39,289
- July 12th was
a very interesting day.
1394
01:19:39,290 --> 01:19:41,025
That was the day
that I went down.
1395
01:19:44,781 --> 01:19:47,406
It's not the first,
second, or third time...
1396
01:19:49,451 --> 01:19:51,476
That I've been
in that position,
1397
01:19:51,637 --> 01:19:53,127
where I actually went down.
1398
01:19:53,128 --> 01:19:55,080
I can't say too much
at this moment.
1399
01:19:57,493 --> 01:19:59,409
I can say this.
1400
01:19:59,570 --> 01:20:02,463
July 12th I was entered into
one of the hospitals here.
1401
01:20:07,594 --> 01:20:09,076
I was basically done.
1402
01:20:09,077 --> 01:20:11,004
They were sending me
to hospice.
1403
01:20:11,164 --> 01:20:13,573
There was nothing else
they can do.
1404
01:20:13,574 --> 01:20:15,399
So they're going
to send him to die.
1405
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:18,253
And what transpired
in between--whoa.
1406
01:20:20,591 --> 01:20:24,059
From what I found out later,
I was in a coma,
1407
01:20:24,153 --> 01:20:26,445
having multisystem
organ failure.
1408
01:20:34,430 --> 01:20:37,373
Every organ is working off
a machine except for the liver.
1409
01:20:37,533 --> 01:20:39,700
Even in the middle of me
going through
1410
01:20:39,860 --> 01:20:42,101
this tsunami
of a medical crisis,
1411
01:20:42,102 --> 01:20:44,088
every single person...
1412
01:20:46,634 --> 01:20:48,709
I was mindful
enough to remember.
1413
01:20:48,869 --> 01:20:53,262
I kept a record
of every single one of you
1414
01:20:53,263 --> 01:20:57,191
who were sent to set me up...
1415
01:20:57,192 --> 01:21:01,270
to assist in the attempted
murder of Al B. Sure!
1416
01:21:08,314 --> 01:21:09,879
You're in the file.
1417
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,708
- There are people
who speculate,
1418
01:21:13,709 --> 01:21:15,736
and there have been
so many conspiracy theories
1419
01:21:15,896 --> 01:21:18,539
about Diddy
potentially being involved.
1420
01:21:22,420 --> 01:21:24,712
- Three.
Oh, yeah.
1421
01:21:24,872 --> 01:21:26,695
- I can't say too much
at this moment
1422
01:21:26,696 --> 01:21:29,133
related to legal situations,
1423
01:21:29,293 --> 01:21:33,403
but I'll tell you this--
surviving death is not a game.
1424
01:21:33,404 --> 01:21:35,431
Being in a coma,
1425
01:21:35,591 --> 01:21:37,407
being on a ventilator
for 38 days,
1426
01:21:37,408 --> 01:21:39,541
being septic,
1427
01:21:39,542 --> 01:21:41,485
60 to 70 blood transfusions,
1428
01:21:41,486 --> 01:21:43,362
it's a lot.
1429
01:21:43,363 --> 01:21:45,024
It's a lot.
1430
01:21:45,184 --> 01:21:46,741
But you know what?
1431
01:21:46,742 --> 01:21:49,019
In hindsight, I'm glad
that things transpired
1432
01:21:49,179 --> 01:21:50,446
the way they did
1433
01:21:50,606 --> 01:21:52,907
because this journey has
prepared me for another level.
1434
01:21:56,762 --> 01:21:58,678
I've made a decision
to go hard,
1435
01:21:58,679 --> 01:22:01,180
as it relates
to opening the case
1436
01:22:01,181 --> 01:22:05,377
on the miraculous death
of Kim Porter...
1437
01:22:06,772 --> 01:22:10,290
Because Kimberly is gone
1438
01:22:10,450 --> 01:22:14,268
because she was going to be
Cassie Ventura...
1439
01:22:16,346 --> 01:22:19,725
Which is blowing the lid
off of this entire situation.
1440
01:22:19,885 --> 01:22:22,610
- This is Cassie and Rihanna
1441
01:22:22,611 --> 01:22:26,581
in one of the music awards
in Europe.
1442
01:22:26,582 --> 01:22:30,334
I met Casandra Ventura
in 2004,
1443
01:22:30,335 --> 01:22:32,529
as a model, actually.
1444
01:22:32,690 --> 01:22:34,822
Cass was always a friend to me.
1445
01:22:34,823 --> 01:22:37,967
You know, she wasn't really
a client client.
1446
01:22:37,968 --> 01:22:42,397
- Sean Combs met Cassie
in 2005.
1447
01:22:42,558 --> 01:22:46,651
She was actually signed to
a very, very talented producer
1448
01:22:46,812 --> 01:22:49,830
who had a joint venture
with Bad Boy.
1449
01:22:49,990 --> 01:22:52,698
- โช So busy, but I've been
thinking about... โช
1450
01:22:52,699 --> 01:22:55,660
- So this is
Cassie's "Me & U" video.
1451
01:22:55,821 --> 01:22:57,838
The song came out in 2006.
1452
01:22:57,998 --> 01:22:59,640
She ended up getting
to number three
1453
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:01,640
on the "Billboard" charts
with this song.
1454
01:23:01,641 --> 01:23:03,451
- Oh, here, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
1455
01:23:03,452 --> 01:23:06,996
- 2007 is when Kim Porter
1456
01:23:06,997 --> 01:23:11,226
broke things off
with Diddy completely.
1457
01:23:11,386 --> 01:23:12,943
People suspected
1458
01:23:12,944 --> 01:23:15,188
that maybe there's more than
a business relationship
1459
01:23:15,282 --> 01:23:17,408
going on
between Cassie and Diddy,
1460
01:23:17,568 --> 01:23:21,836
because they were spotted out
a lot at different events.
1461
01:23:21,837 --> 01:23:23,539
- She didn't tell me
for, like, six months.
1462
01:23:23,699 --> 01:23:25,414
I saw pictures
of them two together,
1463
01:23:25,415 --> 01:23:27,942
and I was like, what the fuck
is going on right now?
1464
01:23:28,104 --> 01:23:31,270
Like, why are you dating
this man?
1465
01:23:31,271 --> 01:23:33,448
- What was it like
the first time you met him?
1466
01:23:33,609 --> 01:23:36,058
Were you starstruck?
- I was so nervous, so nervous.
1467
01:23:36,059 --> 01:23:38,269
But we sat down
for about two hours,
1468
01:23:38,270 --> 01:23:40,446
talked about my career
and the future.
1469
01:23:40,447 --> 01:23:42,347
And it was great.
1470
01:23:42,348 --> 01:23:43,917
You know,
it turned out amazing,
1471
01:23:44,078 --> 01:23:47,370
and he's a great guy,
great guy.
1472
01:23:47,371 --> 01:23:49,688
- People were happy for them.
They were a cute couple.
1473
01:23:49,689 --> 01:23:51,892
But when I was at "Revolt,"
he was dating Cassie,
1474
01:23:51,986 --> 01:23:53,694
and I did get the impression
1475
01:23:53,854 --> 01:23:56,471
that he's very controlling
as a boyfriend.
1476
01:24:00,886 --> 01:24:04,003
- In 2010, it was
the night of the Grammys.
1477
01:24:04,004 --> 01:24:08,558
And he put her up
at the Beverly Hills Hotel.
1478
01:24:08,559 --> 01:24:10,735
I fall asleep in the suite.
1479
01:24:10,896 --> 01:24:14,388
I had no idea she left
to go to a party.
1480
01:24:14,389 --> 01:24:17,417
It was midnight or something,
1:00 a.m. in the morning.
1481
01:24:17,577 --> 01:24:20,570
And all I wake up to
is this motherfucker,
1482
01:24:20,571 --> 01:24:21,970
like, bursting in the room.
1483
01:24:21,971 --> 01:24:24,850
And I'm like, what is going on?
1484
01:24:25,010 --> 01:24:27,752
And he was mad at the fact
1485
01:24:27,913 --> 01:24:30,830
that she went to a party.
1486
01:24:30,831 --> 01:24:33,833
They go into the next room,
close the door.
1487
01:24:33,834 --> 01:24:35,685
So I pack her bags
1488
01:24:35,846 --> 01:24:39,615
and get her to safety.
1489
01:24:39,775 --> 01:24:42,576
That was panic mode.
1490
01:24:42,736 --> 01:24:45,845
That's when she came out...
1491
01:24:45,846 --> 01:24:49,748
knots on her head, busted lip.
1492
01:24:49,749 --> 01:24:52,527
Like, she was just beat up.
1493
01:24:52,688 --> 01:24:55,504
So what was I to do?
1494
01:24:55,505 --> 01:24:57,407
We can't stay
in this hotel room anymore.
1495
01:24:57,568 --> 01:24:59,784
We have to go.
1496
01:24:59,945 --> 01:25:01,611
I had to take her
into my house.
1497
01:25:01,612 --> 01:25:03,512
And she stayed with me.
1498
01:25:03,513 --> 01:25:05,849
We were trying to figure out
what we're going to do.
1499
01:25:07,803 --> 01:25:10,712
I just wanted to help
my friend out that night,
1500
01:25:10,873 --> 01:25:12,773
but she wanted me
to keep it quiet.
1501
01:25:17,779 --> 01:25:20,704
We can't play with Sean Combs.
1502
01:25:20,705 --> 01:25:22,732
These are things
that we have to keep,
1503
01:25:22,893 --> 01:25:24,884
like our dirty little secrets.
1504
01:25:24,885 --> 01:25:27,061
Even when we know
it isn't right,
1505
01:25:27,223 --> 01:25:31,566
it's still something that we
can't talk about to the media.
1506
01:25:31,727 --> 01:25:32,668
- When you look
1507
01:25:32,828 --> 01:25:34,169
at the music industry,
1508
01:25:34,329 --> 01:25:35,420
it's really--
1509
01:25:35,581 --> 01:25:36,746
what we're talking about is
1510
01:25:36,907 --> 01:25:38,931
institutional grooming.
1511
01:25:38,932 --> 01:25:42,652
It normalizes it,
promotes it, accepts it,
1512
01:25:42,653 --> 01:25:45,005
turns a blind eye
1513
01:25:45,165 --> 01:25:49,685
when perpetrators do this.
1514
01:25:49,845 --> 01:25:54,613
- Cassie Ventura came out
with this bombshell lawsuit
1515
01:25:54,614 --> 01:25:57,741
in November of 2023.
1516
01:25:57,742 --> 01:26:01,471
She accused him of having
complete control over her life,
1517
01:26:01,632 --> 01:26:03,949
physically abusing her,
1518
01:26:04,109 --> 01:26:08,704
forcing her to have sex
with male sex workers,
1519
01:26:08,864 --> 01:26:11,079
plying her with drugs.
1520
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:14,668
- I remember reading every page
1521
01:26:14,828 --> 01:26:16,736
because I think I still was
1522
01:26:16,897 --> 01:26:19,689
in disbelief--like, really?
1523
01:26:19,690 --> 01:26:21,440
This had been going on?
1524
01:26:21,441 --> 01:26:23,117
He had been doing that?
1525
01:26:23,279 --> 01:26:27,622
- What was pretty astounding
was that around 24 hours
1526
01:26:27,783 --> 01:26:29,598
after Cassie filed
this lawsuit,
1527
01:26:29,599 --> 01:26:31,450
Sean Combs settled the lawsuit
1528
01:26:31,451 --> 01:26:34,078
for an undisclosed amount
of money.
1529
01:26:34,079 --> 01:26:36,104
- The fact that
it settled so fast
1530
01:26:36,105 --> 01:26:37,557
is something we can draw
1531
01:26:37,717 --> 01:26:38,734
conclusions from,
1532
01:26:38,894 --> 01:26:40,235
that he was terrified.
1533
01:26:42,787 --> 01:26:44,740
- A few months later,
I remember Diddy
1534
01:26:44,900 --> 01:26:46,865
did an interview
on "The Breakfast Club."
1535
01:26:46,866 --> 01:26:48,843
- Recently, you said that
you were giving the artists
1536
01:26:48,844 --> 01:26:50,153
back their publishing.
1537
01:26:50,313 --> 01:26:53,872
- It was more
of me just evolving
1538
01:26:53,873 --> 01:26:55,575
as a businessman.
1539
01:26:55,735 --> 01:26:57,760
- It gave me pause.
1540
01:26:57,761 --> 01:27:01,706
Everyone just knew there was
this reputation that he had
1541
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,025
for being
this shrewd businessman.
1542
01:27:04,026 --> 01:27:06,386
There's numerous artists
who have fallen out with him
1543
01:27:06,546 --> 01:27:09,514
and/or have left the label
over money disputes.
1544
01:27:09,675 --> 01:27:12,992
- From my last conversation
with BIG,
1545
01:27:12,993 --> 01:27:15,894
he just wanted to be
out of Bad Boy
1546
01:27:15,895 --> 01:27:17,896
and out with Puff
1547
01:27:17,897 --> 01:27:20,400
because Puff owned
his publishing.
1548
01:27:23,781 --> 01:27:26,756
That's a whole lot of money.
1549
01:27:26,757 --> 01:27:29,759
- 112, The Lox,
1550
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:32,729
Total, Faith Evans,
even Mase--
1551
01:27:32,890 --> 01:27:36,757
everybody who went
to Bad Boy left...
1552
01:27:36,758 --> 01:27:38,693
left without their royalties.
1553
01:27:38,854 --> 01:27:40,054
And then he tried to come back
1554
01:27:40,205 --> 01:27:43,773
and give people back
their publishing.
1555
01:27:43,774 --> 01:27:46,025
- And a few months later,
1556
01:27:46,026 --> 01:27:48,778
we figured out
why it was strange.
1557
01:27:48,779 --> 01:27:51,614
- So, in order for you
to get your publishing,
1558
01:27:51,615 --> 01:27:54,808
you couldn't speak on anything
that has happened to you.
1559
01:27:54,809 --> 01:27:56,610
And I heard--
1560
01:27:56,611 --> 01:27:58,937
honestly, somebody told me--
one of the artists was like,
1561
01:27:58,938 --> 01:28:01,690
they only offering you,
like, $300,
1562
01:28:01,691 --> 01:28:04,543
and you got to sign the NDA.
1563
01:28:04,544 --> 01:28:06,220
- I don't think
he was oblivious
1564
01:28:06,382 --> 01:28:08,699
during his interview
on "The Breakfast Club"
1565
01:28:08,859 --> 01:28:11,368
that his whole world
was getting ready to collapse.
1566
01:28:13,130 --> 01:28:17,807
- Then CNN released
surveillance footage...
1567
01:28:21,052 --> 01:28:24,622
Of Diddy beating up Cassie
1568
01:28:24,717 --> 01:28:26,857
in the hotel.
1569
01:28:26,858 --> 01:28:28,717
- Couldn't unsee it.
1570
01:28:28,718 --> 01:28:30,244
You couldn't unsee it.
1571
01:28:30,406 --> 01:28:32,747
I can't give you
any explanation
1572
01:28:32,908 --> 01:28:35,274
on why that was okay.
1573
01:28:35,275 --> 01:28:37,978
- I've never seen
Puffy fight anybody.
1574
01:28:38,138 --> 01:28:40,105
I've never seen him
hit a woman.
1575
01:28:40,265 --> 01:28:43,257
So just--the video was
very disturbing when I saw it.
1576
01:28:43,419 --> 01:28:47,062
- I never seen him put his
hands on, you know, no females
1577
01:28:47,222 --> 01:28:49,114
that I was around him with.
1578
01:28:49,274 --> 01:28:52,916
- And I had to, you know,
just kind of look to see,
1579
01:28:52,917 --> 01:28:54,736
you know,
is that really Puff or not?
1580
01:28:54,896 --> 01:28:56,804
- You know, it broke
my heart, you know?
1581
01:28:56,805 --> 01:28:59,098
And then I have to wonder also,
1582
01:28:59,099 --> 01:29:01,275
like, what was going on
in his head?
1583
01:29:01,437 --> 01:29:03,844
Like, why is he really angry?
1584
01:29:03,845 --> 01:29:06,915
- And maybe he pissed her off
or she pissed him off.
1585
01:29:07,075 --> 01:29:09,593
The question is,
what caused that?
1586
01:29:13,139 --> 01:29:14,888
- No, it doesn't.
1587
01:29:17,260 --> 01:29:18,968
- Everyone was shocked.
1588
01:29:19,129 --> 01:29:22,872
But his statement after
1589
01:29:22,873 --> 01:29:25,299
made it worse...
1590
01:29:25,461 --> 01:29:29,170
- My behavior on that video
is inexcusable.
1591
01:29:29,171 --> 01:29:31,705
I take full responsibility.
1592
01:29:31,706 --> 01:29:33,907
- Because...
1593
01:29:33,908 --> 01:29:38,061
I don't think we heard him
apologize to her.
1594
01:29:38,062 --> 01:29:40,448
- I'm not asking
for forgiveness.
1595
01:29:45,230 --> 01:29:48,322
- By the end of 2024,
1596
01:29:48,484 --> 01:29:52,752
there's been an absolute flood
of lawsuits.
1597
01:29:52,912 --> 01:29:56,256
There have been women
who have stepped forward
1598
01:29:56,416 --> 01:29:58,908
and accused him
of sexual assault...
1599
01:29:58,909 --> 01:30:00,602
- We need to talk
about this woman
1600
01:30:00,762 --> 01:30:03,021
and what she said about
her experience with Diddy.
1601
01:30:03,181 --> 01:30:05,014
- Men who have stepped forward
and accused him
1602
01:30:05,175 --> 01:30:06,215
of sexual assault.
1603
01:30:06,376 --> 01:30:08,268
- The third person has come out
1604
01:30:08,428 --> 01:30:10,845
with a lawsuit against Diddy
in the last month.
1605
01:30:11,006 --> 01:30:13,446
- She had allegedly discovered
some of the tapes
1606
01:30:13,447 --> 01:30:15,158
that he had made
with male pop stars.
1607
01:30:15,460 --> 01:30:17,450
- Y'all ready to see hip-hop?
1608
01:30:17,451 --> 01:30:21,030
- We're over, I believe,
30 now individuals
1609
01:30:21,191 --> 01:30:22,681
who have filed lawsuits.
1610
01:30:24,333 --> 01:30:26,084
- I wish y'all
the best of luck.
1611
01:30:28,337 --> 01:30:32,824
- I have a client.
His name is Courtney Burgess.
1612
01:30:32,825 --> 01:30:34,252
Courtney came to me
1613
01:30:34,346 --> 01:30:36,847
because he had received
a subpoena
1614
01:30:37,007 --> 01:30:38,405
from the federal government
1615
01:30:38,406 --> 01:30:41,301
to testify in relation
to the grand jury
1616
01:30:41,461 --> 01:30:44,278
that has convened about Diddy.
1617
01:30:44,279 --> 01:30:47,406
Courtney has done interviews
where he purported
1618
01:30:47,407 --> 01:30:49,959
to own several flash drives
1619
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:51,987
that included sex tapes
1620
01:30:52,147 --> 01:30:53,888
with eight
distinct individuals,
1621
01:30:54,049 --> 01:30:56,715
including A-list celebrities
and Diddy,
1622
01:30:56,716 --> 01:30:58,702
all engaged in sex.
1623
01:31:00,480 --> 01:31:04,098
He believes that these people
were intoxicated
1624
01:31:04,099 --> 01:31:05,900
and that they
may not have known
1625
01:31:06,061 --> 01:31:07,401
that they were being recorded.
1626
01:31:07,563 --> 01:31:11,548
And Courtney ultimately
handed over the video.
1627
01:31:14,761 --> 01:31:17,369
It's not necessarily
a quid pro quo,
1628
01:31:17,370 --> 01:31:20,489
where, oh, I'm going
to blackmail you.
1629
01:31:20,490 --> 01:31:23,742
I feel like it was more
to advance his influence
1630
01:31:23,743 --> 01:31:25,169
and his power,
1631
01:31:25,330 --> 01:31:27,496
because now I have them
on video,
1632
01:31:27,497 --> 01:31:29,898
where I can say, I'm going
to take this to your wife.
1633
01:31:29,899 --> 01:31:32,352
I'll take this to your husband.
I'll take this to the public.
1634
01:31:32,512 --> 01:31:35,238
And I'll ruin you
if you don't do this for me.
1635
01:31:43,898 --> 01:31:47,916
- I represented 11 victims
of Jeffrey Epstein.
1636
01:31:47,917 --> 01:31:50,119
Jeffrey Epstein was one
of the most prolific predators
1637
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:51,845
that we've ever seen.
1638
01:31:51,846 --> 01:31:55,490
He had, I believe,
thousands of victims.
1639
01:31:55,491 --> 01:31:59,453
He had an operation where up
to three girls a day for years
1640
01:31:59,615 --> 01:32:02,057
were being brought to him
by recruiters
1641
01:32:02,217 --> 01:32:04,033
who found
attractive young women,
1642
01:32:04,034 --> 01:32:05,936
many of them underage,
1643
01:32:06,096 --> 01:32:08,838
brought them to him
for a couple hundred dollars.
1644
01:32:08,999 --> 01:32:11,307
They were sexually assaulted.
1645
01:32:11,467 --> 01:32:13,367
There are a lot of similarities
1646
01:32:13,368 --> 01:32:16,295
between the Jeffrey Epstein
case and Sean Combs.
1647
01:32:16,296 --> 01:32:19,956
They're both
very, very wealthy men.
1648
01:32:19,957 --> 01:32:22,777
And each one of them is
at the top of the pyramid.
1649
01:32:22,871 --> 01:32:26,805
And if there comes a time
where he is actually convicted,
1650
01:32:26,806 --> 01:32:28,333
we'll see whether it happens
to Combs.
1651
01:32:28,493 --> 01:32:31,193
- Back for me one time,
up top, up top.
1652
01:32:31,355 --> 01:32:33,797
- If you come
from a background,
1653
01:32:33,957 --> 01:32:36,464
say, Dad engaged
in criminal activity,
1654
01:32:36,465 --> 01:32:39,493
and was born
with a lot of life challenges,
1655
01:32:39,655 --> 01:32:41,820
and then you're
in an environment
1656
01:32:41,821 --> 01:32:46,250
around gang members,
sure, that can shape you.
1657
01:32:46,411 --> 01:32:47,752
But then on the other hand,
1658
01:32:47,913 --> 01:32:50,179
you have people who come
from very difficult backgrounds
1659
01:32:50,340 --> 01:32:53,231
who get themselves
into positive environments,
1660
01:32:53,232 --> 01:32:55,292
and they're fine.
1661
01:32:55,293 --> 01:32:58,512
Regardless of what trauma you have,
1662
01:32:58,674 --> 01:33:01,164
we still have to hold
people accountable.
1663
01:33:03,653 --> 01:33:06,020
- The story
of Lucifer in the Bible
1664
01:33:06,181 --> 01:33:09,247
is that Lucifer was
God's most beautiful angel.
1665
01:33:09,248 --> 01:33:11,308
And he was the music angel.
1666
01:33:11,309 --> 01:33:13,143
- I'm letting
all y'all niggas know,
1667
01:33:13,144 --> 01:33:14,961
if I ain't hot,
y'all niggas ain't hot.
1668
01:33:14,962 --> 01:33:16,748
- But Lucifer got
too full of himself.
1669
01:33:18,933 --> 01:33:22,361
And God casted him
from heaven.
1670
01:33:22,362 --> 01:33:26,264
And then he became
the evil Satan
1671
01:33:26,265 --> 01:33:29,811
that we know here
on this Earth.
1672
01:33:29,971 --> 01:33:33,064
Like, when we talk
about the serpent...
1673
01:33:33,224 --> 01:33:34,948
and when the devil comes
and says,
1674
01:33:34,949 --> 01:33:36,829
I'll give you all this
if you just denounce God,
1675
01:33:36,936 --> 01:33:39,962
they're all just embodiments
of Lucifer.
1676
01:33:39,963 --> 01:33:43,114
And I think where we are now
is we're seeing an embodiment
1677
01:33:43,115 --> 01:33:45,693
of Lucifer in Sean Combs.
1678
01:33:53,170 --> 01:33:55,543
- Ha!
1679
01:34:00,159 --> 01:34:02,502
- Listen...
1680
01:34:02,662 --> 01:34:05,680
I been talking
about this since '97.
1681
01:34:08,744 --> 01:34:12,235
So it's not something
I'm just now doing it.
1682
01:34:12,236 --> 01:34:14,288
I've been having a target
on my back.
1683
01:34:14,289 --> 01:34:17,842
It don't mean anything to me.
This life ain't mine's.
1684
01:34:18,003 --> 01:34:19,918
This life is God's.
1685
01:34:19,919 --> 01:34:23,097
And I'm going to do
as He say please.
1686
01:34:29,262 --> 01:34:32,832
- These are my kids, right?
1687
01:34:32,992 --> 01:34:35,034
That's Timmy, Jr.
1688
01:34:35,194 --> 01:34:37,260
Timmy was my hero.
1689
01:34:42,091 --> 01:34:44,219
Oh, man.
1690
01:34:44,379 --> 01:34:47,621
You know, this is us
burying my dad.
1691
01:34:47,783 --> 01:34:51,300
And then, you know, like,
maybe three, four years later,
1692
01:34:51,461 --> 01:34:53,269
we had to bury Timmy.
1693
01:34:55,214 --> 01:34:57,774
Yeah, Timmy, Jr.
1694
01:35:02,539 --> 01:35:04,948
He overdosed on fentanyl.
1695
01:35:07,368 --> 01:35:11,395
When you have a child
named after you...
1696
01:35:11,556 --> 01:35:13,998
Looks
like you, acts like you...
1697
01:35:14,159 --> 01:35:16,251
I lost so much.
1698
01:35:18,978 --> 01:35:21,304
I lost my dad.
1699
01:35:21,305 --> 01:35:24,759
And then we buried Timmy.
1700
01:35:29,248 --> 01:35:31,340
So now we're here...
1701
01:35:31,501 --> 01:35:33,567
talking about Sean.
1702
01:35:35,995 --> 01:35:38,997
I lost three...
1703
01:35:38,998 --> 01:35:42,150
I lost three of my...
1704
01:35:44,579 --> 01:35:48,006
Yeah, gone.
1705
01:35:48,007 --> 01:35:50,034
Hoping for one to return.
1706
01:35:53,198 --> 01:35:55,413
That's my little bro.
1707
01:35:55,414 --> 01:35:58,291
Sean's done some bad things.
1708
01:35:58,292 --> 01:36:00,295
Sean knows it.
1709
01:36:00,455 --> 01:36:02,345
I'm scared for him.
1710
01:36:13,718 --> 01:36:15,960
- I wouldn't know what to say,
to be honest with you.
1711
01:36:16,121 --> 01:36:17,395
I really wouldn't.
1712
01:36:22,792 --> 01:36:25,693
I really wouldn't know
what to say.
1713
01:36:27,947 --> 01:36:30,224
- Diddy...
1714
01:36:30,385 --> 01:36:33,552
did anybody bring you
any cheesecake in there?
1715
01:36:33,553 --> 01:36:37,205
- If you're going to be
who you are,
1716
01:36:37,206 --> 01:36:39,233
be that person.
1717
01:36:39,394 --> 01:36:41,560
Don't turn around
and try to play
1718
01:36:41,561 --> 01:36:44,339
Mr. Good Guy and Mr. Nice Guy
1719
01:36:44,499 --> 01:36:46,565
when you a piece of shit
all along.
1720
01:36:46,566 --> 01:36:50,345
- Whether you innocent
or guilty...
1721
01:36:50,505 --> 01:36:53,205
karma has resurfaced.
1722
01:36:56,642 --> 01:37:00,480
- This is a man who's been
on top of the world.
1723
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:03,832
This is someone
who has lived the life
1724
01:37:03,833 --> 01:37:07,360
ever since
he's been 20 years old.
1725
01:37:09,524 --> 01:37:11,616
And all of a sudden,
1726
01:37:11,776 --> 01:37:14,684
all of it
is taken away from him.
1727
01:37:14,685 --> 01:37:17,604
He's just stuck
in this one square box.
1728
01:37:20,675 --> 01:37:22,676
What do you say to him?
1729
01:37:25,941 --> 01:37:28,708
- This is probably
the most powerful person
1730
01:37:28,868 --> 01:37:31,285
in the music industry and one
1731
01:37:31,446 --> 01:37:33,353
of the most powerful people
1732
01:37:33,354 --> 01:37:35,471
in American culture, period.
1733
01:37:35,472 --> 01:37:38,718
And so this case is enormous.
1734
01:37:38,878 --> 01:37:41,119
- And this could mean
a lot of jail time
1735
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:42,897
if he is found guilty.
1736
01:37:45,393 --> 01:37:48,126
- Deep down,
I knew this day would come.
1737
01:37:48,127 --> 01:37:50,504
Ain't that crazy?
1738
01:37:50,505 --> 01:37:53,700
That I'd be sitting
here with you.
1739
01:37:53,860 --> 01:37:55,785
You just say to yourself, wow.
1740
01:37:55,945 --> 01:37:57,486
You're going to have
to tell people
1741
01:37:57,647 --> 01:38:00,331
this was a good kid
at one time.
1742
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:04,193
He's monsterized now.
1743
01:38:06,656 --> 01:38:10,133
But the monster
wasn't born a monster.
1744
01:38:11,802 --> 01:38:14,429
- Come, come.
- Come.
1745
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Monsters are created
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