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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:44,045 --> 00:00:46,714 "Don't read my diary when I'm gone. 2 00:00:47,006 --> 00:00:48,299 OK, I'm going to work now. 3 00:00:48,591 --> 00:00:52,219 When you wake up this morning, please read my diary, 4 00:00:52,511 --> 00:00:55,681 look through my things, and figure me out." 5 00:01:09,862 --> 00:01:12,323 Rome, the 4th of March 1994. 6 00:01:12,615 --> 00:01:14,033 One of the world's greatest rock stars 7 00:01:14,325 --> 00:01:16,827 has tried to kill himself-- Kurt Cobain. 8 00:01:17,119 --> 00:01:19,288 His wife, Courtney Love, gives the paparazzi the finger 9 00:01:19,580 --> 00:01:21,707 as she rushes to the hospital. 10 00:01:21,999 --> 00:01:26,629 News agencies prematurely announce his death. 11 00:01:26,921 --> 00:01:28,631 You know, he had an overdose. 12 00:01:28,923 --> 00:01:31,175 And immediately, people said he had died. 13 00:01:31,467 --> 00:01:33,135 But he went into a coma, and they revived him. 14 00:01:33,427 --> 00:01:35,513 Even some of the band members were given a phone call 15 00:01:35,805 --> 00:01:36,305 that Kurt was dead. 16 00:01:45,564 --> 00:01:48,150 So it was announced as an accidental overdose, 17 00:01:48,442 --> 00:01:49,443 when it was anything but. 18 00:01:49,735 --> 00:01:52,446 It was an intentional suicide attempt. 19 00:01:52,738 --> 00:01:54,740 Kurt Cobain's journals cover thousands 20 00:01:55,032 --> 00:01:58,577 of pages-- sketches, lyrics, letters on loose sheets 21 00:01:58,869 --> 00:02:00,037 and in notebooks. 22 00:02:00,329 --> 00:02:02,289 Thoughts of suicide appeared early. 23 00:02:06,085 --> 00:02:09,797 Kurt Cobain had a formative experience in his early teens. 24 00:02:10,089 --> 00:02:12,258 He was on his way to school with two friends, 25 00:02:12,550 --> 00:02:15,219 when they came across the body of a man in the forest. 26 00:02:15,511 --> 00:02:17,012 He'd hanged himself. 27 00:02:17,304 --> 00:02:21,183 The body hung at a grotesque angle, the limbs twisted. 28 00:02:21,475 --> 00:02:24,854 Cobain stood there for an hour looking at the corpse 29 00:02:25,146 --> 00:02:26,522 until the emergency services arrived. 30 00:02:32,611 --> 00:02:33,654 Here was somebody who 31 00:02:33,946 --> 00:02:35,865 suffered from clinical depression 32 00:02:36,157 --> 00:02:38,242 probably from the time he was 10. 33 00:02:38,534 --> 00:02:40,244 He talks about trying to kill himself 34 00:02:40,536 --> 00:02:42,121 when he was 12 years old. 35 00:02:42,413 --> 00:02:46,458 His own depression was enough to drive him to create art. 36 00:02:46,750 --> 00:02:48,752 Generally the people that become entertainers 37 00:02:49,044 --> 00:02:50,421 are people who have dysfunction. 38 00:02:50,713 --> 00:02:54,717 And Kurt certainly falls into that category. 39 00:02:55,009 --> 00:02:56,468 "I'm going to be a superstar musician, 40 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,890 kill myself, and go out in a flame of glory." 41 00:03:01,182 --> 00:03:02,725 The environment that Kurt grew up 42 00:03:03,017 --> 00:03:04,977 in in Aberdeen-- it had the highest 43 00:03:05,269 --> 00:03:08,522 unemployment rate in Washington State in that era. 44 00:03:08,814 --> 00:03:10,649 Suicide, drug abuse, alcoholism-- 45 00:03:10,941 --> 00:03:12,151 these were endemic. 46 00:03:12,443 --> 00:03:16,238 Domestic violence-- these-- the rates of all these issues 47 00:03:16,530 --> 00:03:18,407 were higher in Aberdeen than virtually 48 00:03:18,699 --> 00:03:20,451 any city in Washington. 49 00:03:20,743 --> 00:03:24,455 So when you grow up in that environment, where no one has 50 00:03:24,747 --> 00:03:26,916 a job and it feels hopeless, it's 51 00:03:27,208 --> 00:03:29,877 very hard to come out of that with a sunny disposition. 52 00:03:48,604 --> 00:03:49,688 The northwest corner of the USA. 53 00:03:53,484 --> 00:03:56,904 This is where he grew up, the hero of a whole generation, 54 00:03:57,196 --> 00:03:59,573 the instigator of grunge. 55 00:03:59,865 --> 00:04:02,243 This is where we hope to find people who knew him back then-- 56 00:04:02,534 --> 00:04:05,079 traces of the young outsider. 57 00:04:05,371 --> 00:04:07,581 We're following the route a young man from the sticks 58 00:04:07,873 --> 00:04:11,001 took on his way to becoming a legend of the music world. 59 00:04:19,468 --> 00:04:24,431 Well, this is Aberdeen, Washington, victim 60 00:04:24,723 --> 00:04:25,975 of the poor economy and stuff. 61 00:04:26,267 --> 00:04:29,561 It was based on a timber industry which has dried up. 62 00:04:29,853 --> 00:04:32,856 Kurt was born here back in February '67. 63 00:04:33,148 --> 00:04:35,484 So yes, he was born in Aberdeen, Washington. 64 00:04:46,996 --> 00:04:48,247 OK. Follow me on in. 65 00:04:48,539 --> 00:04:49,832 I got something interesting for you inside here. 66 00:05:03,012 --> 00:05:05,889 We have a concrete statue made by Randi Hubbard. 67 00:05:06,181 --> 00:05:08,058 Her original intent was that the statue 68 00:05:08,350 --> 00:05:09,935 be placed in a city park. 69 00:05:10,227 --> 00:05:12,730 It was done at her expense. 70 00:05:13,022 --> 00:05:15,649 The city had nothing to do with it financially and stuff. 71 00:05:15,941 --> 00:05:17,067 But the city turned it down. 72 00:05:17,359 --> 00:05:18,819 They feel it's a bad idea. 73 00:05:19,111 --> 00:05:21,905 It glorifies drugs and stuff, you know, 74 00:05:22,197 --> 00:05:28,162 and suicide and not-- I strongly disagree with that. 75 00:05:28,454 --> 00:05:31,957 He's 100% responsible for putting a city on the map. 76 00:05:32,249 --> 00:05:33,917 I'm sure you would have never heard of Aberdeen, Washington, 77 00:05:34,209 --> 00:05:34,710 without Kurt Cobain. 78 00:05:40,799 --> 00:05:43,218 My personal experience-- he was very decent person. 79 00:05:43,510 --> 00:05:45,304 He had a heart. 80 00:06:18,545 --> 00:06:21,382 He was a-- he was a good kid. 81 00:06:21,673 --> 00:06:27,805 He liked pizza, and he liked, uh, macaroni and cheese. 82 00:06:31,433 --> 00:06:33,310 Kurt Cobain grew up in Aberdeen 83 00:06:33,602 --> 00:06:35,729 in humble circumstances. 84 00:06:36,021 --> 00:06:39,024 His father, Don, was a motor mechanic at a gas station. 85 00:06:39,316 --> 00:06:43,237 But Kurt himself described his childhood as happy. 86 00:06:43,529 --> 00:06:45,781 He was given musical instruments at an early age-- 87 00:06:46,073 --> 00:06:47,366 a child with talent. 88 00:06:52,871 --> 00:06:54,206 He'd come over to the house one time. 89 00:06:54,498 --> 00:06:55,624 And he had a picture with him. 90 00:06:55,916 --> 00:06:56,792 And he says, look, Grandpa. 91 00:06:57,084 --> 00:06:58,168 He says, look what I painted. 92 00:06:58,460 --> 00:07:00,129 And I was looking at it. 93 00:07:00,421 --> 00:07:01,672 And I said, you didn't paint that. 94 00:07:01,964 --> 00:07:04,258 I says, you traced it. 95 00:07:04,550 --> 00:07:06,343 And he got mad. 96 00:07:06,635 --> 00:07:07,344 And he says, I did not. 97 00:07:07,636 --> 00:07:08,637 He says, you get me some paper. 98 00:07:08,929 --> 00:07:10,264 And he says, I'll show ya. 99 00:07:10,556 --> 00:07:18,063 And so he draws Goofy and-- and Donald Duck for me 100 00:07:18,355 --> 00:07:20,023 and just-- just like that. 101 00:07:20,315 --> 00:07:22,192 He'd just do it real fast. 102 00:07:22,484 --> 00:07:26,780 And by God, they really looked good. 103 00:07:27,072 --> 00:07:29,074 That's Goofy. 104 00:07:29,366 --> 00:07:32,286 I mean, it only took him seconds to draw that too. 105 00:07:35,873 --> 00:07:36,790 Kurt was a good little boy. 106 00:07:37,082 --> 00:07:39,418 He was very, very happy. 107 00:07:39,710 --> 00:07:42,963 Always happy all the time. 108 00:07:43,255 --> 00:07:48,469 Beating on drums or something, on kettles, pots, and pans. 109 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,137 That's what we always thought he'd be, 110 00:07:50,429 --> 00:07:53,223 was a drummer, not a guitarist. 111 00:07:53,515 --> 00:07:55,767 "It took me five years to realize how rhythmically 112 00:07:56,059 --> 00:07:57,561 retarded I was as a drummer. 113 00:07:57,853 --> 00:08:00,314 So I sold some of my father's guns 114 00:08:00,606 --> 00:08:02,065 then used the money to purchase my first 115 00:08:02,357 --> 00:08:04,067 six-string electric guitar. 116 00:08:04,359 --> 00:08:07,279 I learned everything I needed to know from one week of lessons, 117 00:08:07,571 --> 00:08:09,490 which resulted in the famous musical knowledge 118 00:08:09,781 --> 00:08:11,742 of the "Louie Louie" chords. 119 00:08:34,723 --> 00:08:35,307 "Come as You Are." 120 00:08:35,599 --> 00:08:36,308 Good. 121 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:37,643 "Come as You Are." 122 00:08:43,732 --> 00:08:44,900 There you go, Kurt. 123 00:08:45,192 --> 00:08:45,734 Play away. 124 00:08:52,032 --> 00:08:54,868 When Kurt was nine, his parents divorced. 125 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,578 He said it was the end of his happy childhood. 126 00:09:01,166 --> 00:09:05,504 When they got the divorce, his mother, I guess, 127 00:09:05,796 --> 00:09:07,339 couldn't handle him. 128 00:09:07,631 --> 00:09:10,092 And so his dad took him. 129 00:09:10,384 --> 00:09:12,052 And on the weekends, him and Kurt 130 00:09:12,344 --> 00:09:15,764 was-- go out camping or fishing someplace. 131 00:09:16,056 --> 00:09:19,893 And that was the happiest Kurt had been all the time there. 132 00:09:20,185 --> 00:09:21,520 He was just happy as hell. 133 00:09:21,812 --> 00:09:22,479 He was with his dad. 134 00:09:22,771 --> 00:09:26,191 His dad was with him all the time. 135 00:09:26,483 --> 00:09:29,236 Two years later, the father married again. 136 00:09:29,528 --> 00:09:32,114 Kurt couldn't get on in the new household for long. 137 00:09:32,406 --> 00:09:34,324 So he went back to his mother, feeling 138 00:09:34,616 --> 00:09:36,159 unloved and belonging nowhere. 139 00:09:39,288 --> 00:09:42,708 But his parents' divorce had a huge effect on his writing. 140 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,919 And eventually, it-- it came out in many of his songs. 141 00:09:46,211 --> 00:09:48,922 Of course, the lyric from the song 142 00:09:49,214 --> 00:09:51,174 that starts off "In Utero," "That legendary divorce 143 00:09:51,466 --> 00:09:52,676 is--" you know. 144 00:09:52,968 --> 00:09:57,014 He talked about the divorce a lot in his lyrics. 145 00:09:57,306 --> 00:09:59,516 I just want you to know 146 00:09:59,808 --> 00:10:05,314 that I don't hate you anymore. 147 00:10:05,606 --> 00:10:11,361 There is nothing I could say that I haven't thought before. 148 00:10:14,906 --> 00:10:18,076 There was a time where he was kicked out of his mom's house 149 00:10:18,368 --> 00:10:20,537 and he lived on the streets of Aberdeen. 150 00:10:20,829 --> 00:10:24,666 And it was from that time that the legend of Kurt 151 00:10:24,958 --> 00:10:26,168 living under a bridge began. 152 00:10:26,460 --> 00:10:28,712 In my theory, an argument is that he 153 00:10:29,004 --> 00:10:30,005 never lived under the bridge. 154 00:10:34,801 --> 00:10:35,927 I'd say we go to the bridge right 155 00:10:36,219 --> 00:10:37,387 here, 'cause this bridge is straight down the road. 156 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:38,180 We're almost there. 157 00:10:47,522 --> 00:10:50,567 This is Grays Harbor Community Hospital. 158 00:10:50,859 --> 00:10:52,319 When he was homeless, he'd go in. 159 00:10:52,611 --> 00:10:53,820 You hang out at the-- an emergency room, 160 00:10:54,112 --> 00:10:55,781 because, you know, everybody thinks you're just waiting 161 00:10:56,073 --> 00:10:56,865 for somebody there and stuff. 162 00:10:57,157 --> 00:10:57,824 You'd stay warm and dry. 163 00:11:12,130 --> 00:11:14,675 That's the old Morck Hotel right there, the big yellow building 164 00:11:14,966 --> 00:11:16,385 up on the left. 165 00:11:16,677 --> 00:11:18,595 That's another one of the places Kurt used to crash a lot. 166 00:11:21,598 --> 00:11:23,975 It's all closed down now too. 167 00:11:24,267 --> 00:11:25,769 He crashed here late at night. 168 00:11:26,061 --> 00:11:27,813 Nobody would-- you know, nobody would harass you and stuff. 169 00:11:28,105 --> 00:11:29,272 And he'd just get up early in the morning 170 00:11:29,564 --> 00:11:31,900 and take off and give him a warm, dry place 171 00:11:32,192 --> 00:11:33,235 to stay at night. 172 00:11:40,367 --> 00:11:43,203 Legend or reality, Kurt 173 00:11:43,495 --> 00:11:47,624 Cobain himself contributed a lot to the idealized outlaw image. 174 00:12:00,595 --> 00:12:02,222 Everybody knows where it's at. 175 00:12:02,514 --> 00:12:03,682 Everybody comes here. 176 00:12:03,974 --> 00:12:08,103 There's been upwards of 600 people a month coming here. 177 00:12:08,395 --> 00:12:12,441 Now with the weather change, it's dropped off. 178 00:12:12,733 --> 00:12:15,152 They wanted to see where Kurt Cobain originally hung out. 179 00:12:15,444 --> 00:12:17,904 And it's been fascinating. 180 00:12:18,196 --> 00:12:19,114 I don't have to travel anywhere. 181 00:12:19,406 --> 00:12:21,867 I just sit by the side of the road and talk 182 00:12:22,159 --> 00:12:23,243 to people who come here. 183 00:12:23,535 --> 00:12:26,246 And it's been-- it's really been eye-opening. 184 00:12:26,538 --> 00:12:31,543 And I really do appreciate the fact that this town produced 185 00:12:31,835 --> 00:12:32,544 somebody of that talent. 186 00:12:41,928 --> 00:12:43,054 This was a peaceful place 187 00:12:43,346 --> 00:12:44,931 at the time back in the day. 188 00:12:45,223 --> 00:12:47,267 This was totally secluded, both sides. 189 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,895 There was so much brush and stuff growing up in a way. 190 00:12:50,187 --> 00:12:51,354 So yeah. 191 00:12:51,646 --> 00:12:52,647 It was private. 192 00:12:52,939 --> 00:12:55,192 And a lot of people did come down here and stuff. 193 00:12:55,484 --> 00:12:57,319 It was a place where teenagers hang out. 194 00:12:57,611 --> 00:12:59,404 They'd get high and stuff, obviously. 195 00:12:59,696 --> 00:13:04,951 And for Kurt, it appeared to be an inspiration for him to come 196 00:13:05,243 --> 00:13:06,953 down here and write music. 197 00:13:10,874 --> 00:13:13,668 Tori Kovac has created a memorial park for Kurt Cobain 198 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:14,461 here. 199 00:13:20,091 --> 00:13:24,763 Kurt's music-- there's a lot of it I don't like. 200 00:13:25,055 --> 00:13:27,849 But it wasn't until actually when 201 00:13:28,141 --> 00:13:31,853 he played "Unplugged" in New York 202 00:13:32,145 --> 00:13:38,568 that his pure sound and emotion got to me. 203 00:13:38,860 --> 00:13:43,490 Something in the rain, yeah, mmm. 204 00:13:47,410 --> 00:13:50,080 "MTV Unplugged," recorded in 1993, 205 00:13:50,372 --> 00:13:52,165 was an artistic high point for Nirvana. 206 00:13:57,337 --> 00:14:00,590 It's a piece of granite 207 00:14:00,882 --> 00:14:04,469 that's engraved with quotations from Kurt Cobain. 208 00:14:04,761 --> 00:14:07,138 One of the quotes that I took from him 209 00:14:07,430 --> 00:14:11,393 was, "Drugs are bad for you. 210 00:14:11,685 --> 00:14:14,062 They will fuck you up." 211 00:14:14,354 --> 00:14:19,067 And in this community, that has such a problem with drugs 212 00:14:19,359 --> 00:14:23,238 and young people, I thought that the quotation 213 00:14:23,530 --> 00:14:29,578 coming from Kurt Cobain to them was important to say. 214 00:14:29,870 --> 00:14:33,456 The city of Aberdeen, whose property this 215 00:14:33,748 --> 00:14:39,671 is on, they came to me and said, we need to remove that, 216 00:14:39,963 --> 00:14:44,384 and blasted out the U-C-K. It made 217 00:14:44,676 --> 00:14:47,929 some people feel better that they could exercise some power 218 00:14:48,221 --> 00:14:50,140 over this terrible word. 219 00:14:55,770 --> 00:14:57,522 Aberdeen in the mid '80s. 220 00:14:57,814 --> 00:14:59,733 The town was in decline. 221 00:15:00,025 --> 00:15:03,737 Kurt Cobain was 17, had dropped out of various schools, 222 00:15:04,029 --> 00:15:06,698 and was picked up from time to time by the police 223 00:15:06,990 --> 00:15:07,407 for graffiti spraying. 224 00:15:15,123 --> 00:15:18,501 He was living from hand to mouth and surviving on casual jobs. 225 00:15:23,924 --> 00:15:26,885 He had been so poor for most of his life. 226 00:15:27,177 --> 00:15:29,971 He got food stamps, which is government assistance. 227 00:15:30,263 --> 00:15:31,848 He'd gotten unemployment. 228 00:15:32,140 --> 00:15:34,684 Well, he worked jobs. 229 00:15:34,976 --> 00:15:37,896 He had several different jobs. 230 00:15:38,188 --> 00:15:39,773 And he even worked with me carpet 231 00:15:40,065 --> 00:15:41,274 laying a couple of times. 232 00:15:41,566 --> 00:15:42,233 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 233 00:15:42,525 --> 00:15:44,903 I was working at Burger King. 234 00:15:45,195 --> 00:15:49,324 Kurt was working at The Polynesian, at ocean shores. 235 00:15:49,616 --> 00:15:51,660 But yeah, we had day jobs, you know? 236 00:15:51,952 --> 00:15:55,288 But, you know, life in Aberdeen's pretty boring, 237 00:15:55,580 --> 00:15:58,833 you know, I guess, when you're young like that. 238 00:16:06,841 --> 00:16:08,051 At some point, Kurt Cobain 239 00:16:08,343 --> 00:16:10,720 moved into his own small house, together 240 00:16:11,012 --> 00:16:13,723 with the bass player of the punk rock band, the Melvins, 241 00:16:14,015 --> 00:16:16,267 his great role models. 242 00:16:16,559 --> 00:16:18,979 Punk rock perfectly suited his attitude to life. 243 00:16:23,274 --> 00:16:24,651 He also had a relationship 244 00:16:24,943 --> 00:16:31,408 with Tracy Marander, who they lived as a joint couple. 245 00:16:31,700 --> 00:16:34,160 And-- and I think she was very supportive to him 246 00:16:34,452 --> 00:16:35,829 for a number of years. 247 00:16:36,121 --> 00:16:42,085 And-- and then he begged and borrowed whatever he needed. 248 00:16:42,377 --> 00:16:44,004 She is, in some ways, the patron saint, 249 00:16:44,295 --> 00:16:47,215 the untold hero of Nirvana. 250 00:16:47,507 --> 00:16:50,385 She not only paid Kurt's rent, clean the apartment, 251 00:16:50,677 --> 00:16:51,636 kept him going. 252 00:16:51,928 --> 00:16:55,348 So that was Kurt's first serious girlfriend. 253 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,560 And he was with her for at least three years. 254 00:16:58,852 --> 00:17:01,938 And he wrote the song "About a Girl" about Tracy. 255 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:15,702 Aberdeen gets so much rain. 256 00:17:15,994 --> 00:17:18,413 So I think that's why they have so many musicians 257 00:17:18,705 --> 00:17:20,457 that come from this area, is the rain. 258 00:17:20,749 --> 00:17:22,792 It forces you to stay inside. 259 00:17:23,084 --> 00:17:24,544 It's just part of the environment. 260 00:17:24,836 --> 00:17:26,463 Living down here, there's nothing to do. 261 00:17:26,755 --> 00:17:29,841 So I think more or less, people picked up musical instruments 262 00:17:30,133 --> 00:17:31,551 just out of boredom. 263 00:17:31,843 --> 00:17:33,053 It was something to do. 264 00:17:33,344 --> 00:17:34,721 You know, hang out with your friends, make noise, you know? 265 00:17:37,474 --> 00:17:40,268 Kurt was happiest making noise with his friend 266 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:41,853 Krist Novoselic. 267 00:17:42,145 --> 00:17:45,815 The two of them later formed the nucleus of Nirvana. 268 00:17:46,107 --> 00:17:46,900 The drummers kept changing. 269 00:17:50,987 --> 00:17:54,491 The video recording on the box set, the metal box set, 270 00:17:54,783 --> 00:17:57,827 was recorded upstairs in this green building right here. 271 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,539 The video was shot right up here in this room here. 272 00:18:01,831 --> 00:18:04,000 And a very small room, you know? 273 00:18:04,292 --> 00:18:05,627 Kurt was singing into the wall. 274 00:18:29,150 --> 00:18:30,610 It was always a necessity. 275 00:18:30,902 --> 00:18:33,780 Whatever was needed to be done, he would 276 00:18:34,072 --> 00:18:36,449 do it to further his music. 277 00:18:36,741 --> 00:18:38,243 It was always Kurt, yeah. 278 00:18:38,535 --> 00:18:40,286 Kurt, he was always the lyricist. 279 00:18:40,578 --> 00:18:44,457 We practiced-- I'd say we practiced-- we practice seven, 280 00:18:44,749 --> 00:18:49,587 eight hours the same song until-- just until Kurt 281 00:18:49,879 --> 00:18:51,047 was happy with it, you know? 282 00:18:51,339 --> 00:18:52,757 It was always pretty much focused 283 00:18:53,049 --> 00:18:56,344 in those days around music-- survival and music 284 00:18:56,636 --> 00:19:00,974 and survive to make or play music. 285 00:19:01,266 --> 00:19:03,518 Ryan Aigner was responsible for getting Cobain 286 00:19:03,810 --> 00:19:05,687 and co. their first gig. 287 00:19:05,979 --> 00:19:07,230 He organized the band's appearance 288 00:19:07,522 --> 00:19:10,150 at a place called Raymond. 289 00:19:10,441 --> 00:19:13,403 So in here, I was pushing them out of that safety 290 00:19:13,695 --> 00:19:16,447 of their little rehearsal room and saying, 291 00:19:16,739 --> 00:19:18,491 let's go test this out somewhere. 292 00:19:18,783 --> 00:19:22,412 And-- and so, Raymond was probably the wrong place 293 00:19:22,704 --> 00:19:24,873 in some ways, you know? 294 00:19:25,165 --> 00:19:28,877 But it also was a good galvanizing 295 00:19:29,169 --> 00:19:30,920 effect, where they-- you know, they 296 00:19:31,212 --> 00:19:32,589 sort of took one on the chin. 297 00:19:32,881 --> 00:19:36,885 They weren't embraced and loved for everything they did. 298 00:19:37,177 --> 00:19:40,722 The backwater audience was unsettled by the band. 299 00:19:41,014 --> 00:19:44,100 The musicians were sort of odd and clearly had no interest 300 00:19:44,392 --> 00:19:47,687 in playing to a load of hicks. 301 00:19:47,979 --> 00:19:50,231 Raymond's kind of the wrong direction. 302 00:19:50,523 --> 00:19:54,068 You see the metropolis, the urban. 303 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:56,237 That's where you think you're headed. 304 00:19:56,529 --> 00:19:58,865 And Raymond-- has nothing to do with Raymond 305 00:19:59,157 --> 00:20:00,825 or any other rural town. 306 00:20:01,117 --> 00:20:03,745 It was just, you know, he wanted to go to Olympia-- Olympia was 307 00:20:04,037 --> 00:20:07,957 the big city-- or at least east, because we 308 00:20:08,249 --> 00:20:10,668 were as far west as you could possibly go, you know? 309 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,671 So let's go-- let's go east. 310 00:20:18,468 --> 00:20:21,221 Aberdeen's population consists of highly bigoted, 311 00:20:21,512 --> 00:20:24,057 redneck, deer-shooting, faggot-killing logger 312 00:20:24,349 --> 00:20:26,517 types who ain't partial to weirdo new wavers. 313 00:20:31,064 --> 00:20:33,191 The dream of becoming a professional musician 314 00:20:33,483 --> 00:20:34,442 gradually gained pace. 315 00:20:39,572 --> 00:20:42,575 Olympia, the capital of the state of Washington, 316 00:20:42,867 --> 00:20:46,120 was the next stage-- a university city with a very 317 00:20:46,412 --> 00:20:48,081 different atmosphere from the rundown 318 00:20:48,373 --> 00:20:49,666 lumberjack backwater of Aberdeen. 319 00:20:54,462 --> 00:20:58,258 Olympia was full of students and had a lively music scene. 320 00:21:12,313 --> 00:21:15,400 There's still one rehearsal room after another in Band Alley, 321 00:21:15,692 --> 00:21:17,151 as it's know. 322 00:21:17,443 --> 00:21:20,405 And the ethos of Olympia is still creative and cool. 323 00:21:26,911 --> 00:21:28,329 That was the first time I'd ever been to a party 324 00:21:28,621 --> 00:21:30,039 where it was a solid mohawks. 325 00:21:30,331 --> 00:21:31,958 And we played this party. 326 00:21:32,250 --> 00:21:36,212 And some guy got on the mic and said, drummers from Aberdeen 327 00:21:36,504 --> 00:21:38,256 sure are weird looking, you know? 328 00:21:38,548 --> 00:21:40,717 They didn't think I was cool, 'cause 329 00:21:41,009 --> 00:21:41,926 I didn't have a mohawk and but. 330 00:21:42,218 --> 00:21:45,680 But I was in it for the music, so I didn't care. 331 00:21:52,270 --> 00:21:55,440 Like Aaron Burckhard, Dave Foster is a former drummer 332 00:21:55,732 --> 00:21:57,608 with Kurt Cobain's band. 333 00:21:57,900 --> 00:22:00,737 With various bands, like Psycho Samaritan, 334 00:22:01,029 --> 00:22:03,281 they're still following the lead set by Nirvana. 335 00:22:12,290 --> 00:22:13,416 Kurt had names all weird. 336 00:22:13,708 --> 00:22:15,376 Like, our fifth name was Nirvana. 337 00:22:15,668 --> 00:22:18,129 We went through five names. 338 00:22:18,421 --> 00:22:20,506 Our first name was Skid Row. 339 00:22:20,798 --> 00:22:26,137 And then we played live here in Olympia, at the KAOS 340 00:22:26,429 --> 00:22:28,723 radio station midnight show. 341 00:22:29,015 --> 00:22:32,810 And the very next day, I showed up for band practice. 342 00:22:33,102 --> 00:22:39,067 He drew a picture on an easel with a paintbrush 343 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,071 of a pen, a writing pen with this cap all chewed up, 344 00:22:43,363 --> 00:22:44,447 you know? 345 00:22:44,739 --> 00:22:49,786 And that was our second name, was Pen Cap Chew, right? 346 00:22:50,078 --> 00:22:53,873 And then from Pen Cap Chew, we went to Ted Ed Fred. 347 00:22:54,165 --> 00:22:57,710 And then we went to Bliss, was our fourth name. 348 00:22:58,002 --> 00:23:00,171 And then the fifth name was Nirvana. 349 00:23:00,463 --> 00:23:01,255 And that's when I got fired. 350 00:23:02,340 --> 00:23:06,344 Here they are, Nirvana! 351 00:23:06,636 --> 00:23:07,720 Well, they-- you know, they were 352 00:23:08,012 --> 00:23:11,724 playing opening acts a lot midweek-- terrible shows, 353 00:23:12,016 --> 00:23:13,267 nobody there. 354 00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:15,770 Parties-- they did the KAOS radio thing. 355 00:23:16,062 --> 00:23:18,356 And that was really a big turning point, 'cause 356 00:23:18,648 --> 00:23:20,108 so many people heard that. 357 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,734 The tape was bootlegged. 358 00:23:22,026 --> 00:23:24,153 And then things really started spreading. 359 00:23:24,445 --> 00:23:29,367 And then when they would play, people would actually show up. 360 00:23:32,412 --> 00:23:34,497 --green State College in Olympia, Washington. 361 00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:41,212 Welcome KAOS 89.3 FM, Olympia's community radio. 362 00:23:41,504 --> 00:23:44,924 Slowly the band turned into a professional enterprise. 363 00:23:45,216 --> 00:23:48,094 Kurt Cobain moved to Olympia with Tracy. 364 00:23:48,386 --> 00:23:50,680 The city became their creative focus. 365 00:23:54,725 --> 00:23:58,729 On Pear Street, they moved into a house that was chaotic, 366 00:23:59,021 --> 00:24:00,356 spartan, Bohemian. 367 00:24:03,818 --> 00:24:04,861 - I - remember he had-- 368 00:24:05,153 --> 00:24:06,612 he always ate like a bird. 369 00:24:06,904 --> 00:24:09,031 He never had a stove or a fridge. 370 00:24:09,323 --> 00:24:13,161 At the house, he didn't have a stove or refrigerator. 371 00:24:13,453 --> 00:24:14,704 He had a toaster oven, and that was it. 372 00:24:27,300 --> 00:24:28,676 He was never the norm. 373 00:24:28,968 --> 00:24:33,556 He was always Bohemian type, you know? 374 00:24:33,848 --> 00:24:35,516 And he never-- I don't know. 375 00:24:35,808 --> 00:24:37,351 He was just different. 376 00:24:37,643 --> 00:24:38,269 Different, you know? 377 00:24:38,561 --> 00:24:40,438 He had a picture of Bobby Sherman-- 378 00:24:40,730 --> 00:24:43,858 a portrait of Bobby Sherman in his bedroom, you know? 379 00:24:44,150 --> 00:24:45,276 He just did weird things, you know? 380 00:24:45,568 --> 00:24:49,864 He was always weird, different. 381 00:24:50,156 --> 00:24:54,035 He just was really into his art. 382 00:24:54,327 --> 00:24:56,829 And I mean, his whole house was covered with it-- you know, 383 00:24:57,121 --> 00:24:59,415 sculptures, drawings. 384 00:24:59,707 --> 00:25:02,168 Always playing his guitar. 385 00:25:02,460 --> 00:25:05,880 He was pretty much a homebody. 386 00:25:06,172 --> 00:25:06,506 He didn't like to go out. 387 00:25:10,259 --> 00:25:14,180 Morbid motifs, collages with lots of flesh, 388 00:25:14,472 --> 00:25:16,724 extracts from anatomy books. 389 00:25:17,016 --> 00:25:19,852 Kurt Cobain had painted and drawn from a young age. 390 00:25:20,144 --> 00:25:22,522 And to the end of his life, the visual arts 391 00:25:22,813 --> 00:25:24,148 remained an abiding passion. 392 00:25:28,361 --> 00:25:31,072 You know, he thought that maybe he could be an artist. 393 00:25:31,364 --> 00:25:33,616 He never pursued it that much. 394 00:25:33,908 --> 00:25:36,035 I mean, I've had the benefit of seeing a lot of his art 395 00:25:36,327 --> 00:25:37,245 that no one's ever seen. 396 00:25:37,537 --> 00:25:39,247 It's all locked in a vault somewhere. 397 00:25:39,539 --> 00:25:42,166 A few items are in the "Cobain Unseen" book. 398 00:25:42,458 --> 00:25:45,086 But I've seen 25 paintings of Kurt's 399 00:25:45,378 --> 00:25:49,799 that I think-- I'm a music critic, not an art critic. 400 00:25:50,091 --> 00:25:52,802 But I think they're very good. 401 00:25:53,094 --> 00:25:55,680 They show a lot of talent, I think. 402 00:25:55,972 --> 00:25:59,433 Art, as an alternative to the rock star's existence. 403 00:25:59,725 --> 00:26:01,769 Years later, at the height of his fame, 404 00:26:02,061 --> 00:26:05,523 Cobain used to withdraw for weeks on end and paint. 405 00:26:05,815 --> 00:26:07,817 Kurt called me up one Sunday afternoon 406 00:26:08,109 --> 00:26:10,570 and said, you have to come over right now. 407 00:26:10,861 --> 00:26:15,491 And I said, Kurt, you know I-- it's a Sunday afternoon. 408 00:26:15,783 --> 00:26:19,412 I don't know if I have film or I have to get cameras together. 409 00:26:19,704 --> 00:26:22,415 And he's like, no, the flowers are going to wilt. I'm like, 410 00:26:22,707 --> 00:26:24,542 what is he talk-- I said, OK. 411 00:26:24,834 --> 00:26:26,294 So I ran over to his house. 412 00:26:26,586 --> 00:26:31,674 And he made this collage on the floor of the living room. 413 00:26:31,966 --> 00:26:37,096 And he wanted me to photograph it for the cover of "In Utero." 414 00:26:37,388 --> 00:26:41,517 So not really my forte, but I set up and did it. 415 00:26:41,809 --> 00:26:46,314 You know my-- my favorite shot from that 416 00:26:46,606 --> 00:26:51,360 is Kurt and Frances-- Frances toddled 417 00:26:51,652 --> 00:26:54,989 over to look at the collage. 418 00:26:55,281 --> 00:26:59,577 And so I took just a few quick snaps. 419 00:26:59,869 --> 00:27:03,414 Kurt and Courtney had probably been in their pajamas all day. 420 00:27:03,706 --> 00:27:07,918 But you know, this is about 7 o'clock in the evening. 421 00:27:11,881 --> 00:27:13,215 When he was living in Olympia, 422 00:27:13,507 --> 00:27:16,469 Cobain only had thoughts of a career in music. 423 00:27:16,761 --> 00:27:19,388 His journals of the period are full of interviews he 424 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,016 imagined giving as a rock star. 425 00:27:22,308 --> 00:27:26,187 That was to remain a distant vision until 1988. 426 00:27:36,572 --> 00:27:37,782 "Greetings. 427 00:27:38,074 --> 00:27:40,451 Nirvana is a three piece spawned from the bowels 428 00:27:40,743 --> 00:27:44,163 of a redneck logging town called Aberdeen, Washington." 429 00:27:44,455 --> 00:27:46,374 Only together for seven months, they 430 00:27:46,666 --> 00:27:50,795 have acquired a single, a demo, and an LP, success, fame, 431 00:27:51,087 --> 00:27:52,046 and a following of millions. 432 00:27:59,053 --> 00:28:01,305 Seattle, 1988. 433 00:28:01,597 --> 00:28:03,182 Nirvana had arrived in the big city. 434 00:28:13,984 --> 00:28:17,822 We are driving in Seattle on Leary Way in the area 435 00:28:18,114 --> 00:28:19,699 kind of bowered Fremont. 436 00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:24,870 And it's in this neighborhood which 25 years ago was far more 437 00:28:25,162 --> 00:28:29,125 rundown that Nirvana came to record their first recording 438 00:28:29,417 --> 00:28:30,292 session ever. 439 00:28:30,584 --> 00:28:32,670 It's where they did "Love Buzz," the single. 440 00:28:32,962 --> 00:28:36,340 And it's also where they recorded the album "Bleach." 441 00:28:36,632 --> 00:28:38,718 This area used to be super-duper cheap. 442 00:28:39,009 --> 00:28:41,053 You could buy a building here for nothing. 443 00:28:41,345 --> 00:28:44,932 And nowadays, it's, like, super expensive 444 00:28:45,224 --> 00:28:47,143 than lots of restaurants. 445 00:28:47,435 --> 00:28:49,645 This little humble building to the left 446 00:28:49,937 --> 00:28:56,068 here is the recording studio that Nirvana cut "Bleach." 447 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,946 In some ways, it's the place that made Nirvana Nirvana. 448 00:29:03,826 --> 00:29:07,997 They were very well prepared, and they were good players. 449 00:29:08,289 --> 00:29:11,459 And I also remember thinking, this guy's voice 450 00:29:11,751 --> 00:29:12,585 is really interesting. 451 00:29:12,877 --> 00:29:14,462 I like the way he sings. 452 00:29:14,754 --> 00:29:16,088 Even then, you could tell. 453 00:29:16,380 --> 00:29:17,590 You can listen to these recordings, 454 00:29:17,882 --> 00:29:21,969 and you can hear the character of the voice is very good. 455 00:29:22,261 --> 00:29:26,182 They did everything just, you know, almost one take. 456 00:29:26,474 --> 00:29:27,975 It was literally like they played 457 00:29:28,267 --> 00:29:33,856 live in the studio almost, literally just banged it out. 458 00:29:34,148 --> 00:29:36,734 Trying to place the first demo with a record 459 00:29:37,026 --> 00:29:39,528 company prove difficult. Tracy sent 460 00:29:39,820 --> 00:29:42,239 out dozens of copies accompanied by forthright letters 461 00:29:42,531 --> 00:29:43,032 from Kurt. 462 00:29:46,327 --> 00:29:47,953 "We're willing to pay for the majority 463 00:29:48,245 --> 00:29:50,706 of pressing of 1,000 copies of our LP 464 00:29:50,998 --> 00:29:52,875 and all of the recording costs. 465 00:29:53,167 --> 00:29:55,753 We basically just want to be on your label. 466 00:29:56,045 --> 00:29:58,798 Do you think you could please send us a reply of 'fuck off' 467 00:29:59,089 --> 00:30:01,342 or 'not interested' so we don't have to waste 468 00:30:01,634 --> 00:30:02,968 more money selling more tapes? 469 00:30:03,260 --> 00:30:03,761 Thanks. 470 00:30:04,053 --> 00:30:07,765 Nirvana." 471 00:30:08,057 --> 00:30:10,643 The demo did, in fact, result in their first record contract 472 00:30:10,935 --> 00:30:15,439 with Sub Pop, a new Seattle label. 473 00:30:15,731 --> 00:30:19,485 In Sub Pop, the label was just getting started. 474 00:30:19,777 --> 00:30:22,363 And I knew those guys had a record label. 475 00:30:22,655 --> 00:30:24,490 And they said to me, well, look, you 476 00:30:24,782 --> 00:30:28,619 hear something good at the studio, run it by us, you know? 477 00:30:28,911 --> 00:30:31,539 We're looking for bands to put on our labels. 478 00:30:31,831 --> 00:30:38,128 So the Nirvana thing was a logical one to pass on to them. 479 00:30:38,420 --> 00:30:41,799 And they didn't initially like it that much. 480 00:30:45,094 --> 00:30:46,470 It was too metal. 481 00:31:00,317 --> 00:31:03,153 But the label boss caught a Nirvana gig 482 00:31:03,445 --> 00:31:05,531 and gave them a chance. 483 00:31:05,823 --> 00:31:08,534 The first single, "Love Buzz," was a critical success 484 00:31:08,826 --> 00:31:18,825 and was quickly followed by the album "Bleach." 485 00:31:23,090 --> 00:31:26,260 Kurt himself paid for the cost of "Bleach." 486 00:31:26,552 --> 00:31:28,721 It cost $606 to record. 487 00:31:29,013 --> 00:31:30,848 There's probably no album in the history 488 00:31:31,140 --> 00:31:33,434 of the world that was recorded so cheaply 489 00:31:33,726 --> 00:31:35,060 and ultimately made so much money. 490 00:31:42,735 --> 00:31:47,364 The area that we're standing in, back in the late '80s, 491 00:31:47,656 --> 00:31:50,409 was really a hotbed of the music scene. 492 00:31:50,701 --> 00:31:51,994 There are funny stories about that. 493 00:31:52,286 --> 00:31:54,288 This neighborhood's a little bit dangerous, even still 494 00:31:54,580 --> 00:31:55,289 today sometimes. 495 00:31:55,581 --> 00:31:57,708 But when Kurt first came to Seattle, 496 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,126 he was so afraid he was going to get 497 00:31:59,418 --> 00:32:03,756 mugged that he stayed in his car until the show began. 498 00:32:04,048 --> 00:32:05,215 Kurt Cobain would have to get 499 00:32:05,507 --> 00:32:07,551 used to life in the tour bus. 500 00:32:07,843 --> 00:32:11,138 He was determined to go on tour straight after "Bleach." 501 00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:13,223 On their first trips across America, 502 00:32:13,515 --> 00:32:15,225 Nirvana was so poor that they had 503 00:32:15,517 --> 00:32:17,895 to hope for a big enough audience at night 504 00:32:18,187 --> 00:32:21,523 to be able to pay for the gasoline to the next gig. 505 00:32:21,815 --> 00:32:23,567 The years on the road had begun. 506 00:32:23,859 --> 00:32:26,737 In your room, I'm not older. 507 00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:29,823 In your eyes, I'm not worth it. 508 00:32:30,115 --> 00:32:31,867 Gimme back my alcohol. 509 00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:33,494 Gimme back my alcohol. 510 00:32:33,786 --> 00:32:36,163 Gimme back my alcohol. 511 00:32:36,455 --> 00:32:37,873 Another myth is that people think Nirvana 512 00:32:38,165 --> 00:32:39,500 was an overnight success. 513 00:32:39,792 --> 00:32:43,629 Well, so here was somebody who very much wanted fame. 514 00:32:43,921 --> 00:32:47,216 And so what that meant was put an album out, tour. 515 00:32:47,508 --> 00:32:50,594 He played five tours before "Nevermind" came out. 516 00:32:50,886 --> 00:32:52,596 They played thousands of shows. 517 00:32:52,888 --> 00:32:54,390 They had toured Europe. 518 00:32:54,682 --> 00:32:56,934 They had been everywhere at that point. 519 00:32:57,226 --> 00:33:00,354 So it was hard work that made them famous. 520 00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:13,492 The initial Nirvana shows just weren't that impressive really. 521 00:33:13,784 --> 00:33:14,827 They were OK. 522 00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:17,746 You could tell that there was something going on. 523 00:33:18,038 --> 00:33:21,083 But they obviously needed to work on it 524 00:33:21,375 --> 00:33:23,085 a little bit, which they did. 525 00:33:35,014 --> 00:33:36,682 And so it was very-- 526 00:33:36,974 --> 00:33:41,562 usually very crowded in the van and very smelly. 527 00:33:41,854 --> 00:33:47,443 And a lot of, you know, juvenile jokes going around. 528 00:33:47,735 --> 00:33:53,490 And, uh, it was-- it was a good time 529 00:33:53,782 --> 00:33:57,911 but-- but-- but I think pretty trying for everybody, 530 00:33:58,203 --> 00:34:00,372 and I think-- I think especially for Kurt. 531 00:34:00,664 --> 00:34:03,876 I mean, he suffered from a lot of health issues. 532 00:34:04,168 --> 00:34:07,129 And I think that it was really, really trying for him. 533 00:34:07,421 --> 00:34:11,300 And quite possibly those early years, 534 00:34:11,592 --> 00:34:14,553 you know, may have forced him into drug use 535 00:34:14,845 --> 00:34:19,683 so-- just because of his health issues. 536 00:34:19,975 --> 00:34:22,478 Kurt Cobain shaped every aspect of the band 537 00:34:22,770 --> 00:34:24,313 and its performances. 538 00:34:24,605 --> 00:34:25,773 Nothing was left to chance. 539 00:34:30,402 --> 00:34:33,238 He came into the-- came into the loft. 540 00:34:33,530 --> 00:34:35,866 And I had this white backdrop paper set up. 541 00:34:36,158 --> 00:34:39,328 And said, oh, God, that's just a boring white backdrop. 542 00:34:39,620 --> 00:34:41,747 I'm like, well, I don't know. 543 00:34:42,039 --> 00:34:42,915 What should we do? 544 00:34:43,207 --> 00:34:45,417 He's like, well, let's draw something on it 545 00:34:45,709 --> 00:34:46,835 or paint something on it. 546 00:34:47,127 --> 00:34:48,837 I look around, and there happened 547 00:34:49,129 --> 00:34:50,631 to be can of black spray paint. 548 00:34:50,923 --> 00:34:53,342 So I was like, here, you knock yourself out. 549 00:34:53,634 --> 00:34:55,719 And that's what he came up with. 550 00:34:56,011 --> 00:35:01,391 And it is kind of a symbolic, and Chad was kind of always 551 00:35:01,683 --> 00:35:05,729 posed under the minus symbol there. 552 00:35:06,021 --> 00:35:08,941 On the way to the top, Nirvana replaced drummer 553 00:35:09,233 --> 00:35:11,568 Chad Channing with Dave Grohl. 554 00:35:11,860 --> 00:35:13,987 And Kurt split up with his longstanding supporter, 555 00:35:14,279 --> 00:35:15,823 Tracy Marander. 556 00:35:16,115 --> 00:35:17,783 What he needed now, he said, was someone 557 00:35:18,075 --> 00:35:20,327 he could talk to about art. 558 00:35:20,619 --> 00:35:22,079 The dead weight of the past had to be 559 00:35:22,371 --> 00:35:24,498 jettisoned, both privately and professionally. 560 00:35:27,501 --> 00:35:29,962 That was the change from the first demo 561 00:35:30,254 --> 00:35:31,630 into "Bleach," and then continuing 562 00:35:31,922 --> 00:35:34,508 from the "Bleach" album into the "Nevermind" record, 563 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,927 is the songs got a little simpler, 564 00:35:37,219 --> 00:35:38,971 and the melodies got more complex. 565 00:35:44,726 --> 00:35:48,605 Seattle, the 17th of April, 1991. 566 00:35:48,897 --> 00:35:53,277 In a club called OK Hotel, Nirvana tried out a new song, 567 00:35:53,569 --> 00:35:55,279 "Smells like Teen Spirit." 568 00:35:55,571 --> 00:35:59,199 It's not enough to save you. 569 00:35:59,491 --> 00:36:03,245 Oh, no, I'm not afraid of you. 570 00:36:03,537 --> 00:36:06,665 Hello, hello, hello, how low? 571 00:36:06,957 --> 00:36:08,292 Hello, hello-- 572 00:36:08,584 --> 00:36:11,211 The song was destined to be a worldwide hit. 573 00:36:11,503 --> 00:36:13,338 The music press in Britain called Nirvana 574 00:36:13,630 --> 00:36:16,175 the leading band of a movement that had 575 00:36:16,466 --> 00:36:17,968 been given the name "grunge." 576 00:36:18,260 --> 00:36:21,388 I'm a liar, and I'm famous. 577 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,432 Here we are now. 578 00:36:23,724 --> 00:36:25,100 Entertain us. 579 00:36:25,392 --> 00:36:27,978 The anti attitude of an ignored 580 00:36:28,270 --> 00:36:29,855 and lost American youth. 581 00:36:30,147 --> 00:36:31,481 Yeah! 582 00:36:31,773 --> 00:36:32,274 Hey. 583 00:36:36,695 --> 00:36:37,738 Yay. 584 00:36:38,030 --> 00:36:40,324 The "Nevermind" album sold millions. 585 00:36:40,616 --> 00:36:42,910 And "Smells Like Teen Spirit" became the anthem 586 00:36:43,202 --> 00:36:44,745 of a whole generation. 587 00:36:45,037 --> 00:36:47,706 Nirvana were now jetting around the world. 588 00:36:47,998 --> 00:36:49,458 But their star status robbed them 589 00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:51,835 of some of their credibility. 590 00:36:52,127 --> 00:36:54,671 The outsiders were being swallowed up by the mainstream. 591 00:37:01,261 --> 00:37:03,680 "I kind of feel like a dork writing about myself 592 00:37:03,972 --> 00:37:06,225 like this as if I were an American pop rock 593 00:37:06,516 --> 00:37:09,061 icon demigod or a self-confessed product 594 00:37:09,353 --> 00:37:11,355 of corporate-packaged rebellion. 595 00:37:11,647 --> 00:37:14,274 But I've heard so many pathetic, second-rate Freudian 596 00:37:14,566 --> 00:37:17,319 evaluations from interviews from my childhood 597 00:37:17,611 --> 00:37:20,197 up until the present state of my personality 598 00:37:20,489 --> 00:37:23,784 and how I'm a notoriously fucked up heroin addict, 599 00:37:24,076 --> 00:37:27,371 alcoholic, self-destructive, yet overtly sensitive, 600 00:37:27,663 --> 00:37:31,792 frail, fragile, soft-spoken, narcoleptic, neurotic little 601 00:37:32,084 --> 00:37:35,545 piss and who at any minute is going to OD, jump off a roof, 602 00:37:35,837 --> 00:37:38,632 wig out, blow my head off, or all three at once. 603 00:37:38,924 --> 00:37:40,092 Oh, please, God. 604 00:37:40,384 --> 00:37:41,969 I can't handle the success!" 605 00:37:42,261 --> 00:37:44,429 Here we are now. 606 00:37:44,721 --> 00:37:46,640 Entertain us. 607 00:37:46,932 --> 00:37:50,686 I feel stupid and contagious. 608 00:37:50,978 --> 00:37:53,689 He desperately wanted to be famous. 609 00:37:53,981 --> 00:37:57,359 But once he became famous, he found that there were people 610 00:37:57,651 --> 00:37:58,568 counting on him to do things. 611 00:37:58,860 --> 00:38:00,696 And Kurt did not respond well to that. 612 00:38:04,157 --> 00:38:04,992 Nirvana. 613 00:38:06,910 --> 00:38:10,664 The winner is Nirvana, "Smells Like Teen Spirit." 614 00:38:18,005 --> 00:38:24,136 I'd like to thank my family and our record label 615 00:38:24,428 --> 00:38:25,887 and our true fans. 616 00:38:26,179 --> 00:38:29,850 Yeah, I think Kurt Cobain had troubles because 617 00:38:30,142 --> 00:38:33,145 of the intense pressure on him from the media 618 00:38:33,437 --> 00:38:35,105 and fans and the industry. 619 00:38:35,397 --> 00:38:36,857 You know, he was an overnight sensation. 620 00:38:42,362 --> 00:38:43,822 He didn't want to be the spokesperson 621 00:38:44,114 --> 00:38:44,990 for a generation, I think. 622 00:38:45,282 --> 00:38:47,159 He didn't like all that attention. 623 00:38:47,451 --> 00:38:50,495 That's-- last time I saw him, actually, was at a Breeders 624 00:38:50,787 --> 00:38:52,581 concert in Olympia. 625 00:38:52,873 --> 00:38:55,250 And I was sitting in the back. 626 00:38:55,542 --> 00:38:58,420 And all of a sudden, here comes this guy that sat next to me. 627 00:38:58,712 --> 00:38:59,963 And we looked at each other, and it was Kurt. 628 00:39:00,255 --> 00:39:01,089 You know, he's like, Dave? 629 00:39:01,381 --> 00:39:02,257 I'm like, Kurt? 630 00:39:02,549 --> 00:39:04,760 And we hugged and shit and started talking. 631 00:39:05,052 --> 00:39:08,847 And he had on, like, some goofy half-pulled-down shit. 632 00:39:09,139 --> 00:39:10,265 You know, it was hard to recognize him. 633 00:39:10,557 --> 00:39:12,309 And these two girls walked up and said, 634 00:39:12,601 --> 00:39:13,602 aren't you Kurt Cobain? 635 00:39:13,894 --> 00:39:15,395 And he's like, Dave, I gotta go. 636 00:39:15,687 --> 00:39:18,231 And he split. 637 00:39:18,523 --> 00:39:22,319 A public life which the star also used as a means 638 00:39:22,611 --> 00:39:23,987 to an end. 639 00:39:26,740 --> 00:39:28,492 I'd like all of you people in this room 640 00:39:28,784 --> 00:39:31,411 to know that Courtney Love, the lead singer 641 00:39:31,703 --> 00:39:33,872 of the sensational pop group Hole 642 00:39:34,164 --> 00:39:36,917 is the best fuck in the world. 643 00:39:37,209 --> 00:39:40,212 A stressed-out Kurt Cobain's provocative appearance 644 00:39:40,504 --> 00:39:42,047 in a TV show. 645 00:39:42,339 --> 00:39:44,674 He got to know Courtney Love, the singer with the rock 646 00:39:44,966 --> 00:39:47,010 band Hole, on his way up. 647 00:39:47,302 --> 00:39:49,554 The two had star status in common, 648 00:39:49,846 --> 00:39:51,807 as well as drugs and a background 649 00:39:52,099 --> 00:39:53,683 of dysfunctional families. 650 00:39:53,975 --> 00:39:56,436 At their first meeting, Courtney is supposed 651 00:39:56,728 --> 00:39:58,355 to have punched Kurt in the stomach, 652 00:39:58,647 --> 00:40:00,982 her way of showing affection. 653 00:40:01,274 --> 00:40:04,653 They became the Sid and Nancy of the media society. 654 00:40:04,945 --> 00:40:07,072 Their breakdowns in excesses were 655 00:40:07,364 --> 00:40:09,825 meat and drink to the popular press, which both loved 656 00:40:10,117 --> 00:40:13,787 them and hounded them. 657 00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:18,208 They married in Hawaii in 1992. 658 00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:19,835 Two characters in a play, 659 00:40:20,127 --> 00:40:23,880 where one is the villain one day, and the other is the hero. 660 00:40:24,172 --> 00:40:26,091 And the next day, it switches. 661 00:40:26,383 --> 00:40:27,801 It at times was combative. 662 00:40:28,093 --> 00:40:30,387 But at other times, it was not combative. 663 00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:33,432 But you add these other external elements. 664 00:40:33,723 --> 00:40:34,641 You add fame. 665 00:40:34,933 --> 00:40:36,143 You add money. 666 00:40:36,435 --> 00:40:39,104 You add drugs into that picture. 667 00:40:39,396 --> 00:40:43,191 And you add not just fame but huge fame. 668 00:40:43,483 --> 00:40:46,695 And it's a very tumultuous mix. 669 00:40:46,987 --> 00:40:49,156 In 1992, their daughter, Frances Bean, 670 00:40:49,448 --> 00:40:50,532 was born. 671 00:40:50,824 --> 00:40:53,243 Kurt loved his child more than anything else. 672 00:40:53,535 --> 00:40:55,662 A journalist alleged that Courtney Love had taken 673 00:40:55,954 --> 00:40:57,831 drugs during her pregnancy. 674 00:40:58,123 --> 00:41:00,041 This led to a long drawn-out and grueling 675 00:41:00,333 --> 00:41:03,462 battle with the authorities about custody of the child. 676 00:41:19,436 --> 00:41:22,272 Life in the fast lane took its toll. 677 00:41:22,564 --> 00:41:25,025 But Kurt Cobain also exploited the image 678 00:41:25,317 --> 00:41:26,651 of the vulnerable artist. 679 00:41:33,492 --> 00:41:35,660 This was from the Reading Festival 680 00:41:35,952 --> 00:41:38,955 in 1992, the second time they played that. 681 00:41:39,247 --> 00:41:41,208 And this was the show where Kurt was wheeled 682 00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:44,336 out in a wheelchair, pretending that, you know, 683 00:41:44,628 --> 00:41:46,004 that he was sick. 684 00:41:46,296 --> 00:41:48,048 And there were rumors going around 685 00:41:48,340 --> 00:41:49,966 that because of this drug addiction 686 00:41:50,258 --> 00:41:52,886 he wouldn't be able to play the show. 687 00:41:53,178 --> 00:41:56,598 And it was just absolute epic. 688 00:42:01,978 --> 00:42:04,856 Again and again, Kurt Cobain withdrew completely, 689 00:42:05,148 --> 00:42:08,985 taking refuge in painting and in drugs. 690 00:42:09,277 --> 00:42:11,446 For a time, he refused either to make another record 691 00:42:11,738 --> 00:42:13,281 or to go on tour. 692 00:42:13,573 --> 00:42:17,327 But finally, a new album did appear, "In Utero." 693 00:42:17,619 --> 00:42:21,122 It was on the following tour that Cobain's health gave out. 694 00:42:21,414 --> 00:42:23,375 A concert in Munich was cut short. 695 00:42:23,667 --> 00:42:27,128 It was destined to be his last. 696 00:42:27,420 --> 00:42:29,381 This here's a picture 697 00:42:29,673 --> 00:42:32,467 I was talking about of Kurt alone onstage from behind, 698 00:42:32,759 --> 00:42:35,971 and this is from 1992. 699 00:42:36,263 --> 00:42:39,266 And yeah, you just see that body language 700 00:42:39,558 --> 00:42:43,603 there, I mean, his curvature of the spine and just this sense 701 00:42:43,895 --> 00:42:47,524 of being up there all alone, you know, just really 702 00:42:47,816 --> 00:42:49,651 alone in the world at that point, 703 00:42:49,943 --> 00:42:51,069 because they were getting so big. 704 00:42:54,531 --> 00:42:57,033 An isolation that was largely due to drugs. 705 00:43:06,543 --> 00:43:07,877 Kurt didn't truly become 706 00:43:08,169 --> 00:43:11,339 a drug addict until after "Nevermind" was even released. 707 00:43:11,631 --> 00:43:14,426 He certainly had experimented with opiates. 708 00:43:14,718 --> 00:43:16,761 And they come up in some of the lyrics on that album. 709 00:43:17,053 --> 00:43:18,388 There's no denying that. 710 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,016 But even Kurt in his diaries talks 711 00:43:21,308 --> 00:43:26,354 about how drugs were messed up. 712 00:43:26,646 --> 00:43:29,566 What I saw as being a guy who is basically 713 00:43:29,858 --> 00:43:34,321 the same age-- 18 or 19 or 20 years old-- 714 00:43:34,613 --> 00:43:35,905 he didn't even drink that much. 715 00:43:36,197 --> 00:43:37,324 He hardly ever drank. 716 00:43:37,616 --> 00:43:40,368 I never really saw him use a lot of drugs. 717 00:43:40,660 --> 00:43:45,248 That was just not-- I mean, a lot of us did, not Kurt. 718 00:43:45,540 --> 00:43:48,918 He liked to be in control most of the time. 719 00:43:49,210 --> 00:43:53,048 I didn't see this person who passed out at parties 720 00:43:53,340 --> 00:43:54,549 or got sick. 721 00:43:54,841 --> 00:44:00,430 That's not who I knew in 1986, 1987, through 1989. 722 00:44:09,064 --> 00:44:12,192 To devote himself undisturbed to drugs, 723 00:44:12,484 --> 00:44:14,527 Kurt Cobain moved into cheap motels 724 00:44:14,819 --> 00:44:16,071 on the outskirts of Seattle. 725 00:44:35,757 --> 00:44:36,883 He was in those sleazy motels 726 00:44:37,175 --> 00:44:38,677 for part of that time. 727 00:44:38,968 --> 00:44:40,512 He was trying to escape. 728 00:44:40,804 --> 00:44:43,723 Heroin's effect is such that somebody is high, 729 00:44:44,015 --> 00:44:44,933 they don't want to do anything. 730 00:44:45,225 --> 00:44:47,060 They want to get off the couch. 731 00:44:47,352 --> 00:44:51,064 Kurt was not very productive during this drug periods. 732 00:44:55,235 --> 00:44:57,153 At the height of his addiction, 733 00:44:57,445 --> 00:44:59,656 Kurt Cobain was spending hundreds of thousands 734 00:44:59,948 --> 00:45:03,159 of dollars a year on drugs or rehab. 735 00:45:09,499 --> 00:45:12,168 Well, there were so many turning points. 736 00:45:12,460 --> 00:45:14,504 In the life of somebody that's an addict, 737 00:45:14,796 --> 00:45:18,091 it's 1,000 slow suicides. 738 00:45:18,383 --> 00:45:21,928 With Kurt, though, clearly the intervention 739 00:45:22,220 --> 00:45:28,226 that happened in Seattle in late March of 1994, before Kurt 740 00:45:28,518 --> 00:45:32,230 went to Los Angeles, he went and bought a shotgun 741 00:45:32,522 --> 00:45:34,315 and hid it in his house. 742 00:45:34,607 --> 00:45:35,859 And then he agreed to go to rehab. 743 00:45:39,738 --> 00:45:41,322 Los Angeles. 744 00:45:41,614 --> 00:45:44,200 While Kurt Cobain was in a rehab clinic, 745 00:45:44,492 --> 00:45:46,870 Courtney Love was trying to get clean in the luxury 746 00:45:47,162 --> 00:45:49,038 Peninsula Hotel in Beverly Hills. 747 00:45:55,545 --> 00:45:58,506 After a few days, Kurt Cobain abandoned rehab. 748 00:46:04,929 --> 00:46:06,848 I remember running into him about two weeks 749 00:46:07,140 --> 00:46:07,974 before he passed away. 750 00:46:08,266 --> 00:46:09,726 And he actually gave me his phone 751 00:46:10,018 --> 00:46:11,436 number, his new phone number. 752 00:46:11,728 --> 00:46:13,438 He was like, oh, give me-- give me a call. 753 00:46:13,730 --> 00:46:15,482 I want to hang out with you. 754 00:46:15,774 --> 00:46:18,568 It's like, I don't think he had a lot of friends at that point, 755 00:46:18,860 --> 00:46:20,779 because, well, he was a drug addict. 756 00:46:21,070 --> 00:46:25,700 And drug addicts just hang out with other drug addicts 757 00:46:25,992 --> 00:46:28,369 or-- you know, in the house watching TV. 758 00:46:33,124 --> 00:46:34,501 "I feel compelled to say 759 00:46:34,793 --> 00:46:38,004 fuck you, fuck you, to those of you who have absolutely 760 00:46:38,296 --> 00:46:40,215 no regard for me as a person. 761 00:46:40,507 --> 00:46:43,510 You have raped me harder than you'll ever know. 762 00:46:43,802 --> 00:46:45,845 So again, I say fuck you. 763 00:46:46,137 --> 00:46:49,098 Although this phrase has totally lost its meaning, fuck you! 764 00:46:49,390 --> 00:46:54,437 Fuck you!" 765 00:48:04,883 --> 00:48:05,675 I don't know. 766 00:48:05,967 --> 00:48:06,885 What would you think? 767 00:48:07,176 --> 00:48:08,595 I don't have anything to say about it, really. 768 00:48:08,887 --> 00:48:11,264 It's-- I wasn't very happy about it. 769 00:48:14,267 --> 00:48:18,021 I felt like the world was just that much less exciting place 770 00:48:18,313 --> 00:48:20,023 to be now all of a sudden. 771 00:48:20,315 --> 00:48:24,110 And-- and I also felt like there were several times when 772 00:48:24,402 --> 00:48:28,615 I wanted to call or reconnect with him and thought, 773 00:48:28,907 --> 00:48:30,074 I should give him a phone. 774 00:48:30,366 --> 00:48:31,367 And I never did. 775 00:48:31,659 --> 00:48:34,913 And I instantly just knew that I'd be regretting 776 00:48:35,204 --> 00:48:37,707 that for the rest of my life. 777 00:48:37,999 --> 00:48:39,250 I was at home. 778 00:48:39,542 --> 00:48:42,545 And I remember holding my-- I had my five-month-old daughter. 779 00:48:42,837 --> 00:48:45,089 And it came over the news, right? 780 00:48:45,381 --> 00:48:48,259 And I just had just chills, you know? 781 00:48:48,551 --> 00:48:50,428 And I set my daughter down. 782 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:51,888 I was like, whoa. 783 00:48:52,180 --> 00:48:53,473 And then the phone rang. 784 00:48:53,765 --> 00:48:58,061 And that was "Entertainment Weekly" saying, oh, Kurt died. 785 00:48:58,353 --> 00:48:59,062 We need photos. 786 00:48:59,354 --> 00:49:01,773 I'm like, you're kidding. 787 00:49:02,065 --> 00:49:06,569 And I thought, oh, that bastard, like, you know, drug overdose. 788 00:49:10,073 --> 00:49:11,950 Just it pissed me off. 789 00:49:12,241 --> 00:49:13,785 My mom called me and said, you've 790 00:49:14,077 --> 00:49:15,578 been listening to the radio or watching the news? 791 00:49:15,870 --> 00:49:16,746 And I'm like, no. 792 00:49:17,038 --> 00:49:18,790 And she goes, well, you better sit down. 793 00:49:19,082 --> 00:49:20,875 And she goes, yeah, Kurt shot himself. 794 00:49:21,167 --> 00:49:23,503 And I'm like, is he dead? 795 00:49:23,795 --> 00:49:25,964 I was just, like, in shock. 796 00:49:26,255 --> 00:49:27,966 And she's like, yeah, he's dead. 797 00:49:28,257 --> 00:49:30,093 Fuck, I couldn't believe it. 798 00:49:30,385 --> 00:49:33,096 When they called us, first, she says-- she says she got it. 799 00:49:33,388 --> 00:49:37,642 And she called us and said, well, he done it. 800 00:49:37,934 --> 00:49:40,353 And I asked Iris, the one who was on the phone, 801 00:49:40,645 --> 00:49:41,312 and I said, done what? 802 00:49:41,604 --> 00:49:44,482 And she said, he committed suicide. 803 00:49:44,774 --> 00:49:50,571 And, uh, it shook her up to be ill. 804 00:50:08,965 --> 00:50:10,174 This was a public park. 805 00:50:10,466 --> 00:50:13,386 Kurt did occasionally come over to this bench. 806 00:50:13,678 --> 00:50:16,806 Courtney did say after his death that she scattered some 807 00:50:17,098 --> 00:50:20,351 of his ashes over here and also some 808 00:50:20,643 --> 00:50:22,770 in the house under some trees. 809 00:50:23,062 --> 00:50:27,567 So there is a public memorial in Seattle to Kurt. 810 00:50:27,859 --> 00:50:29,152 There's no official statue. 811 00:50:29,444 --> 00:50:31,279 There's no anything. 812 00:50:31,571 --> 00:50:32,989 No park named after him. 813 00:50:33,281 --> 00:50:37,035 This park has become the unofficial kind of memorial 814 00:50:37,326 --> 00:50:37,827 to Kurt Cobain. 815 00:50:46,085 --> 00:50:48,337 For me, it's a very sad place as well, 816 00:50:48,629 --> 00:50:51,716 to imagine that-- to imagine that there was a point where he 817 00:50:52,008 --> 00:50:55,970 was so distraught living in this beautiful house with all 818 00:50:56,262 --> 00:50:59,223 the talent he had, and yet he wanted to die. 819 00:50:59,515 --> 00:51:02,769 And I have empathy for it, but it's also very sad 820 00:51:03,061 --> 00:51:05,605 to think that that's the choice that he made 821 00:51:05,897 --> 00:51:07,398 and that he felt that hopeless in his life. 822 00:51:11,652 --> 00:51:12,987 His house was somewhere over here? 823 00:51:13,279 --> 00:51:14,155 - That's his house. - Oh, this? 824 00:51:14,447 --> 00:51:15,823 Oh. 825 00:51:16,115 --> 00:51:18,034 He died in a green house that was 826 00:51:18,326 --> 00:51:22,205 in the back of the property, which has been plowed down. 827 00:51:22,497 --> 00:51:26,751 I feel like that's the view that MTV would put on the news, 828 00:51:27,043 --> 00:51:30,171 like, right here, just kind of that piece. 829 00:51:30,463 --> 00:51:33,299 Aspiring cameramen went up the street behind, 830 00:51:33,591 --> 00:51:36,302 climbed on a ladder, and then shot down on his house. 831 00:51:36,594 --> 00:51:39,097 So that's also the picture that everyone remembers. 832 00:51:39,388 --> 00:51:42,517 And sadly, there was a picture of Kurt dead lying 833 00:51:42,809 --> 00:51:45,603 in the green house that a photographer shot from a ladder 834 00:51:45,895 --> 00:51:46,395 in the back there. 835 00:51:49,816 --> 00:51:50,983 So did you know him? 836 00:51:51,275 --> 00:51:51,859 I did, yeah. 837 00:51:52,151 --> 00:51:52,652 Cool. 838 00:52:19,053 --> 00:52:20,304 I'm sorry. 839 00:52:20,596 --> 00:52:25,101 This is the last-- this is the last song of the evening. 840 00:52:43,244 --> 00:52:47,665 What else should I be? 841 00:52:47,957 --> 00:52:48,583 All apologies. 842 00:52:52,295 --> 00:52:56,799 What else should I say? 843 00:52:57,091 --> 00:53:00,845 Everyone is gay. 844 00:53:01,137 --> 00:53:05,975 What else should I write? 845 00:53:06,267 --> 00:53:10,021 I don't have the right. 846 00:53:10,313 --> 00:53:14,483 What else should I be? 847 00:53:16,527 --> 00:53:20,406 It would be nice to eventually start playing acoustic guitars 848 00:53:20,698 --> 00:53:24,076 and be thought of as a singer and a songwriter 849 00:53:24,368 --> 00:53:27,079 rather than a grunge rocker, you know, 850 00:53:27,371 --> 00:53:29,332 because then I might be able to take advantage of that 851 00:53:29,624 --> 00:53:32,126 when I'm older and sit down on a chair 852 00:53:32,418 --> 00:53:35,546 and play acoustic guitar like-- like Johnny Cash or something, 853 00:53:35,838 --> 00:53:36,547 you know? 854 00:53:36,839 --> 00:53:38,424 And it won't be a big joke. 855 00:53:38,716 --> 00:53:40,426 Who knows? 66587

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