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"Don't read
my diary when I'm gone.
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OK, I'm going to work now.
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When you wake up this
morning, please read my diary,
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look through my things,
and figure me out."
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Rome, the 4th of March 1994.
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One of the world's
greatest rock stars
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has tried to kill
himself-- Kurt Cobain.
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His wife, Courtney Love,
gives the paparazzi the finger
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as she rushes to the hospital.
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News agencies prematurely
announce his death.
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You know, he had an overdose.
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And immediately, people
said he had died.
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But he went into a coma,
and they revived him.
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Even some of the band members
were given a phone call
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that Kurt was dead.
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So it was announced as
an accidental overdose,
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when it was anything but.
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It was an intentional
suicide attempt.
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Kurt Cobain's
journals cover thousands
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of pages-- sketches, lyrics,
letters on loose sheets
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and in notebooks.
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Thoughts of suicide
appeared early.
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Kurt Cobain had a formative
experience in his early teens.
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He was on his way to
school with two friends,
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when they came across the
body of a man in the forest.
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He'd hanged himself.
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The body hung at a grotesque
angle, the limbs twisted.
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Cobain stood there for an
hour looking at the corpse
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until the emergency
services arrived.
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Here
was somebody who
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suffered from
clinical depression
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probably from the
time he was 10.
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He talks about trying
to kill himself
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when he was 12 years old.
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His own depression was enough
to drive him to create art.
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Generally the people
that become entertainers
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are people who have dysfunction.
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And Kurt certainly falls
into that category.
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"I'm going to
be a superstar musician,
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kill myself, and go out
in a flame of glory."
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The
environment that Kurt grew up
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in in Aberdeen--
it had the highest
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unemployment rate in
Washington State in that era.
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Suicide, drug
abuse, alcoholism--
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these were endemic.
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Domestic violence-- these--
the rates of all these issues
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were higher in
Aberdeen than virtually
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any city in Washington.
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So when you grow up in that
environment, where no one has
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a job and it feels
hopeless, it's
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very hard to come out of that
with a sunny disposition.
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The northwest
corner of the USA.
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This is where he grew up, the
hero of a whole generation,
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the instigator of grunge.
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This is where we hope to find
people who knew him back then--
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traces of the young outsider.
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We're following the route
a young man from the sticks
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took on his way to becoming
a legend of the music world.
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Well, this is
Aberdeen, Washington, victim
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of the poor economy and stuff.
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It was based on a timber
industry which has dried up.
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Kurt was born here
back in February '67.
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So yes, he was born in
Aberdeen, Washington.
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OK.
Follow me on in.
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I got something interesting
for you inside here.
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We have a concrete statue
made by Randi Hubbard.
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Her original intent
was that the statue
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be placed in a city park.
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It was done at her expense.
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The city had nothing to do
with it financially and stuff.
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But the city turned it down.
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They feel it's a bad idea.
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It glorifies drugs
and stuff, you know,
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and suicide and not-- I
strongly disagree with that.
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He's 100% responsible for
putting a city on the map.
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I'm sure you would have never
heard of Aberdeen, Washington,
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without Kurt Cobain.
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My personal experience--
he was very decent person.
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He had a heart.
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He was a-- he was a good kid.
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He liked pizza, and he liked,
uh, macaroni and cheese.
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Kurt Cobain
grew up in Aberdeen
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in humble circumstances.
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His father, Don, was a motor
mechanic at a gas station.
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But Kurt himself described
his childhood as happy.
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He was given musical
instruments at an early age--
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a child with talent.
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He'd come
over to the house one time.
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And he had a picture with him.
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And he says, look, Grandpa.
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He says, look what I painted.
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And I was looking at it.
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And I said, you
didn't paint that.
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I says, you traced it.
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And he got mad.
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And he says, I did not.
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He says, you get me some paper.
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And he says, I'll show ya.
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And so he draws Goofy and--
and Donald Duck for me
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and just-- just like that.
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He'd just do it real fast.
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And by God, they
really looked good.
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That's Goofy.
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I mean, it only took him
seconds to draw that too.
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Kurt was a good little boy.
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He was very, very happy.
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Always happy all the time.
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Beating on drums or something,
on kettles, pots, and pans.
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That's what we always
thought he'd be,
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was a drummer, not a guitarist.
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"It took me five years
to realize how rhythmically
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retarded I was as a drummer.
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So I sold some of
my father's guns
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then used the money
to purchase my first
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six-string electric guitar.
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I learned everything I needed to
know from one week of lessons,
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which resulted in the
famous musical knowledge
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of the "Louie Louie" chords.
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"Come as You Are."
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Good.
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"Come as You Are."
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There you go, Kurt.
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Play away.
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When Kurt was
nine, his parents divorced.
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He said it was the end
of his happy childhood.
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When they got the divorce,
his mother, I guess,
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couldn't handle him.
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And so his dad took him.
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And on the weekends,
him and Kurt
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was-- go out camping
or fishing someplace.
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And that was the happiest Kurt
had been all the time there.
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He was just happy as hell.
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He was with his dad.
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His dad was with
him all the time.
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Two years later,
the father married again.
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Kurt couldn't get on in
the new household for long.
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So he went back to
his mother, feeling
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unloved and belonging nowhere.
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But his parents' divorce had
a huge effect on his writing.
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And eventually, it-- it came
out in many of his songs.
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Of course, the
lyric from the song
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that starts off "In Utero,"
"That legendary divorce
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is--" you know.
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He talked about the divorce
a lot in his lyrics.
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I just want you to know
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that I don't hate you anymore.
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There is nothing I could say
that I haven't thought before.
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There was a time where he was
kicked out of his mom's house
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and he lived on the
streets of Aberdeen.
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And it was from that time
that the legend of Kurt
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living under a bridge began.
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In my theory, an
argument is that he
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never lived under the bridge.
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I'd say we go to
the bridge right
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here, 'cause this bridge
is straight down the road.
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We're almost there.
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This is Grays Harbor
Community Hospital.
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When he was
homeless, he'd go in.
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You hang out at the--
an emergency room,
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because, you know, everybody
thinks you're just waiting
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for somebody there and stuff.
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You'd stay warm and dry.
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That's the old Morck Hotel right
there, the big yellow building
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up on the left.
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That's another one of the
places Kurt used to crash a lot.
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It's all closed down now too.
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He crashed here late at night.
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Nobody would-- you know, nobody
would harass you and stuff.
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And he'd just get up
early in the morning
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and take off and give
him a warm, dry place
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to stay at night.
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Legend
or reality, Kurt
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Cobain himself contributed a lot
to the idealized outlaw image.
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Everybody knows where it's at.
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Everybody comes here.
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There's been upwards of 600
people a month coming here.
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Now with the weather
change, it's dropped off.
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They wanted to see where Kurt
Cobain originally hung out.
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And it's been fascinating.
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I don't have to travel anywhere.
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I just sit by the side
of the road and talk
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to people who come here.
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And it's been-- it's
really been eye-opening.
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And I really do appreciate the
fact that this town produced
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somebody of that talent.
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This
was a peaceful place
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at the time back in the day.
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This was totally
secluded, both sides.
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There was so much brush and
stuff growing up in a way.
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So yeah.
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It was private.
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And a lot of people did
come down here and stuff.
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It was a place where
teenagers hang out.
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They'd get high and
stuff, obviously.
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And for Kurt, it appeared to be
an inspiration for him to come
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down here and write music.
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Tori Kovac has created
a memorial park for Kurt Cobain
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here.
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Kurt's music-- there's
a lot of it I don't like.
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But it wasn't
until actually when
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he played "Unplugged"
in New York
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that his pure sound
and emotion got to me.
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Something
in the rain, yeah, mmm.
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"MTV Unplugged,"
recorded in 1993,
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was an artistic high
point for Nirvana.
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It's
a piece of granite
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that's engraved with
quotations from Kurt Cobain.
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One of the quotes
that I took from him
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was, "Drugs are bad for you.
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They will fuck you up."
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And in this community, that
has such a problem with drugs
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and young people, I
thought that the quotation
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coming from Kurt Cobain to
them was important to say.
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The city of Aberdeen,
whose property this
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is on, they came to me and
said, we need to remove that,
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and blasted out
the U-C-K. It made
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some people feel better that
they could exercise some power
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over this terrible word.
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Aberdeen
in the mid '80s.
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The town was in decline.
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Kurt Cobain was 17, had
dropped out of various schools,
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and was picked up from
time to time by the police
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for graffiti spraying.
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He was living from hand to mouth
and surviving on casual jobs.
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He had been
so poor for most of his life.
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He got food stamps, which
is government assistance.
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He'd gotten unemployment.
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Well, he worked jobs.
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He had several different jobs.
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And he even worked
with me carpet
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laying a couple of times.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I was working at Burger King.
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Kurt was working at The
Polynesian, at ocean shores.
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But yeah, we had
day jobs, you know?
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But, you know, life in
Aberdeen's pretty boring,
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you know, I guess, when
you're young like that.
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At some
point, Kurt Cobain
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moved into his own
small house, together
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with the bass player of the
punk rock band, the Melvins,
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his great role models.
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Punk rock perfectly suited
his attitude to life.
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He also
had a relationship
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with Tracy Marander, who
they lived as a joint couple.
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And-- and I think she was
very supportive to him
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for a number of years.
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And-- and then he begged and
borrowed whatever he needed.
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She is, in some ways,
the patron saint,
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the untold hero of Nirvana.
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She not only paid Kurt's
rent, clean the apartment,
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kept him going.
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So that was Kurt's first
serious girlfriend.
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And he was with her for
at least three years.
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And he wrote the song
"About a Girl" about Tracy.
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Aberdeen
gets so much rain.
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So I think that's why they
have so many musicians
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that come from this
area, is the rain.
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It forces you to stay inside.
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It's just part of
the environment.
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Living down here,
there's nothing to do.
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So I think more or less, people
picked up musical instruments
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just out of boredom.
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It was something to do.
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You know, hang out with your
friends, make noise, you know?
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Kurt was happiest
making noise with his friend
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Krist Novoselic.
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The two of them later formed
the nucleus of Nirvana.
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The drummers kept changing.
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The video recording on the
box set, the metal box set,
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was recorded upstairs in this
green building right here.
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The video was shot right
up here in this room here.
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And a very small room, you know?
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Kurt was singing into the wall.
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It was
always a necessity.
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Whatever was needed
to be done, he would
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do it to further his music.
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It was always Kurt, yeah.
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Kurt, he was always
the lyricist.
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We practiced-- I'd say we
practiced-- we practice seven,
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eight hours the same song
until-- just until Kurt
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was happy with it, you know?
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It was always
pretty much focused
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in those days around
music-- survival and music
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and survive to
make or play music.
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00:19:01,266 --> 00:19:03,518
Ryan Aigner was
responsible for getting Cobain
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and co. their first gig.
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He organized the
band's appearance
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at a place called Raymond.
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So in here, I was
pushing them out of that safety
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of their little rehearsal
room and saying,
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let's go test this
out somewhere.
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And-- and so, Raymond was
probably the wrong place
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in some ways, you know?
294
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But it also was a
good galvanizing
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effect, where they--
you know, they
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sort of took one on the chin.
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They weren't embraced and
loved for everything they did.
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The backwater audience
was unsettled by the band.
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The musicians were sort of odd
and clearly had no interest
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in playing to a load of hicks.
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00:19:47,979 --> 00:19:50,231
Raymond's kind
of the wrong direction.
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You see the
metropolis, the urban.
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That's where you
think you're headed.
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And Raymond-- has nothing
to do with Raymond
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or any other rural town.
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It was just, you know, he wanted
to go to Olympia-- Olympia was
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the big city-- or at
least east, because we
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were as far west as you
could possibly go, you know?
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So let's go-- let's go east.
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Aberdeen's population
consists of highly bigoted,
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redneck, deer-shooting,
faggot-killing logger
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types who ain't partial
to weirdo new wavers.
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The dream of becoming
a professional musician
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gradually gained pace.
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Olympia, the capital of
the state of Washington,
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was the next stage-- a
university city with a very
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different atmosphere
from the rundown
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lumberjack backwater
of Aberdeen.
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Olympia was full of students
and had a lively music scene.
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There's still one rehearsal room
after another in Band Alley,
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as it's know.
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And the ethos of Olympia
is still creative and cool.
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That was the first time
I'd ever been to a party
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where it was a solid mohawks.
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And we played this party.
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And some guy got on the mic and
said, drummers from Aberdeen
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sure are weird
looking, you know?
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00:21:38,548 --> 00:21:40,717
They didn't think
I was cool, 'cause
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I didn't have a mohawk and but.
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But I was in it for the
music, so I didn't care.
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00:21:52,270 --> 00:21:55,440
Like Aaron Burckhard,
Dave Foster is a former drummer
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with Kurt Cobain's band.
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With various bands,
like Psycho Samaritan,
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they're still following
the lead set by Nirvana.
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00:22:12,290 --> 00:22:13,416
Kurt
had names all weird.
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Like, our fifth
name was Nirvana.
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00:22:15,668 --> 00:22:18,129
We went through five names.
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00:22:18,421 --> 00:22:20,506
Our first name was Skid Row.
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00:22:20,798 --> 00:22:26,137
And then we played live
here in Olympia, at the KAOS
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radio station midnight show.
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00:22:29,015 --> 00:22:32,810
And the very next day, I
showed up for band practice.
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00:22:33,102 --> 00:22:39,067
He drew a picture on an
easel with a paintbrush
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of a pen, a writing pen
with this cap all chewed up,
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00:22:43,363 --> 00:22:44,447
you know?
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00:22:44,739 --> 00:22:49,786
And that was our second name,
was Pen Cap Chew, right?
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And then from Pen Cap Chew,
we went to Ted Ed Fred.
347
00:22:54,165 --> 00:22:57,710
And then we went to Bliss,
was our fourth name.
348
00:22:58,002 --> 00:23:00,171
And then the fifth
name was Nirvana.
349
00:23:00,463 --> 00:23:01,255
And that's when I got fired.
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00:23:02,340 --> 00:23:06,344
Here they are, Nirvana!
351
00:23:06,636 --> 00:23:07,720
Well, they-- you
know, they were
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00:23:08,012 --> 00:23:11,724
playing opening acts a lot
midweek-- terrible shows,
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00:23:12,016 --> 00:23:13,267
nobody there.
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00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:15,770
Parties-- they did
the KAOS radio thing.
355
00:23:16,062 --> 00:23:18,356
And that was really a
big turning point, 'cause
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00:23:18,648 --> 00:23:20,108
so many people heard that.
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00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,734
The tape was bootlegged.
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00:23:22,026 --> 00:23:24,153
And then things really
started spreading.
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00:23:24,445 --> 00:23:29,367
And then when they would play,
people would actually show up.
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00:23:32,412 --> 00:23:34,497
--green State
College in Olympia, Washington.
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00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:41,212
Welcome KAOS 89.3 FM,
Olympia's community radio.
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00:23:41,504 --> 00:23:44,924
Slowly the band turned
into a professional enterprise.
363
00:23:45,216 --> 00:23:48,094
Kurt Cobain moved to
Olympia with Tracy.
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00:23:48,386 --> 00:23:50,680
The city became
their creative focus.
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00:23:54,725 --> 00:23:58,729
On Pear Street, they moved
into a house that was chaotic,
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spartan, Bohemian.
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00:24:03,818 --> 00:24:04,861
- I
- remember he had--
368
00:24:05,153 --> 00:24:06,612
he always ate like a bird.
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00:24:06,904 --> 00:24:09,031
He never had a
stove or a fridge.
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00:24:09,323 --> 00:24:13,161
At the house, he didn't have
a stove or refrigerator.
371
00:24:13,453 --> 00:24:14,704
He had a toaster
oven, and that was it.
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00:24:27,300 --> 00:24:28,676
He was never the norm.
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00:24:28,968 --> 00:24:33,556
He was always Bohemian
type, you know?
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00:24:33,848 --> 00:24:35,516
And he never-- I don't know.
375
00:24:35,808 --> 00:24:37,351
He was just different.
376
00:24:37,643 --> 00:24:38,269
Different, you know?
377
00:24:38,561 --> 00:24:40,438
He had a picture
of Bobby Sherman--
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00:24:40,730 --> 00:24:43,858
a portrait of Bobby Sherman
in his bedroom, you know?
379
00:24:44,150 --> 00:24:45,276
He just did weird
things, you know?
380
00:24:45,568 --> 00:24:49,864
He was always weird, different.
381
00:24:50,156 --> 00:24:54,035
He just was really
into his art.
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00:24:54,327 --> 00:24:56,829
And I mean, his whole house
was covered with it-- you know,
383
00:24:57,121 --> 00:24:59,415
sculptures, drawings.
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00:24:59,707 --> 00:25:02,168
Always playing his guitar.
385
00:25:02,460 --> 00:25:05,880
He was pretty much a homebody.
386
00:25:06,172 --> 00:25:06,506
He didn't like to go out.
387
00:25:10,259 --> 00:25:14,180
Morbid motifs,
collages with lots of flesh,
388
00:25:14,472 --> 00:25:16,724
extracts from anatomy books.
389
00:25:17,016 --> 00:25:19,852
Kurt Cobain had painted
and drawn from a young age.
390
00:25:20,144 --> 00:25:22,522
And to the end of his
life, the visual arts
391
00:25:22,813 --> 00:25:24,148
remained an abiding passion.
392
00:25:28,361 --> 00:25:31,072
You know, he thought that
maybe he could be an artist.
393
00:25:31,364 --> 00:25:33,616
He never pursued it that much.
394
00:25:33,908 --> 00:25:36,035
I mean, I've had the benefit
of seeing a lot of his art
395
00:25:36,327 --> 00:25:37,245
that no one's ever seen.
396
00:25:37,537 --> 00:25:39,247
It's all locked in
a vault somewhere.
397
00:25:39,539 --> 00:25:42,166
A few items are in the
"Cobain Unseen" book.
398
00:25:42,458 --> 00:25:45,086
But I've seen 25
paintings of Kurt's
399
00:25:45,378 --> 00:25:49,799
that I think-- I'm a music
critic, not an art critic.
400
00:25:50,091 --> 00:25:52,802
But I think they're very good.
401
00:25:53,094 --> 00:25:55,680
They show a lot of
talent, I think.
402
00:25:55,972 --> 00:25:59,433
Art, as an alternative
to the rock star's existence.
403
00:25:59,725 --> 00:26:01,769
Years later, at the
height of his fame,
404
00:26:02,061 --> 00:26:05,523
Cobain used to withdraw
for weeks on end and paint.
405
00:26:05,815 --> 00:26:07,817
Kurt called
me up one Sunday afternoon
406
00:26:08,109 --> 00:26:10,570
and said, you have to
come over right now.
407
00:26:10,861 --> 00:26:15,491
And I said, Kurt, you know
I-- it's a Sunday afternoon.
408
00:26:15,783 --> 00:26:19,412
I don't know if I have film or
I have to get cameras together.
409
00:26:19,704 --> 00:26:22,415
And he's like, no, the flowers
are going to wilt. I'm like,
410
00:26:22,707 --> 00:26:24,542
what is he talk-- I said, OK.
411
00:26:24,834 --> 00:26:26,294
So I ran over to his house.
412
00:26:26,586 --> 00:26:31,674
And he made this collage on
the floor of the living room.
413
00:26:31,966 --> 00:26:37,096
And he wanted me to photograph
it for the cover of "In Utero."
414
00:26:37,388 --> 00:26:41,517
So not really my forte,
but I set up and did it.
415
00:26:41,809 --> 00:26:46,314
You know my-- my
favorite shot from that
416
00:26:46,606 --> 00:26:51,360
is Kurt and Frances--
Frances toddled
417
00:26:51,652 --> 00:26:54,989
over to look at the collage.
418
00:26:55,281 --> 00:26:59,577
And so I took just
a few quick snaps.
419
00:26:59,869 --> 00:27:03,414
Kurt and Courtney had probably
been in their pajamas all day.
420
00:27:03,706 --> 00:27:07,918
But you know, this is about
7 o'clock in the evening.
421
00:27:11,881 --> 00:27:13,215
When he was
living in Olympia,
422
00:27:13,507 --> 00:27:16,469
Cobain only had thoughts
of a career in music.
423
00:27:16,761 --> 00:27:19,388
His journals of the period
are full of interviews he
424
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,016
imagined giving as a rock star.
425
00:27:22,308 --> 00:27:26,187
That was to remain a
distant vision until 1988.
426
00:27:36,572 --> 00:27:37,782
"Greetings.
427
00:27:38,074 --> 00:27:40,451
Nirvana is a three piece
spawned from the bowels
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00:27:40,743 --> 00:27:44,163
of a redneck logging town
called Aberdeen, Washington."
429
00:27:44,455 --> 00:27:46,374
Only together for
seven months, they
430
00:27:46,666 --> 00:27:50,795
have acquired a single, a
demo, and an LP, success, fame,
431
00:27:51,087 --> 00:27:52,046
and a following of millions.
432
00:27:59,053 --> 00:28:01,305
Seattle, 1988.
433
00:28:01,597 --> 00:28:03,182
Nirvana had arrived
in the big city.
434
00:28:13,984 --> 00:28:17,822
We are driving in Seattle
on Leary Way in the area
435
00:28:18,114 --> 00:28:19,699
kind of bowered Fremont.
436
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:24,870
And it's in this neighborhood
which 25 years ago was far more
437
00:28:25,162 --> 00:28:29,125
rundown that Nirvana came to
record their first recording
438
00:28:29,417 --> 00:28:30,292
session ever.
439
00:28:30,584 --> 00:28:32,670
It's where they did
"Love Buzz," the single.
440
00:28:32,962 --> 00:28:36,340
And it's also where they
recorded the album "Bleach."
441
00:28:36,632 --> 00:28:38,718
This area used to be
super-duper cheap.
442
00:28:39,009 --> 00:28:41,053
You could buy a building
here for nothing.
443
00:28:41,345 --> 00:28:44,932
And nowadays, it's,
like, super expensive
444
00:28:45,224 --> 00:28:47,143
than lots of restaurants.
445
00:28:47,435 --> 00:28:49,645
This little humble
building to the left
446
00:28:49,937 --> 00:28:56,068
here is the recording studio
that Nirvana cut "Bleach."
447
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,946
In some ways, it's the place
that made Nirvana Nirvana.
448
00:29:03,826 --> 00:29:07,997
They were very well prepared,
and they were good players.
449
00:29:08,289 --> 00:29:11,459
And I also remember
thinking, this guy's voice
450
00:29:11,751 --> 00:29:12,585
is really interesting.
451
00:29:12,877 --> 00:29:14,462
I like the way he sings.
452
00:29:14,754 --> 00:29:16,088
Even then, you could tell.
453
00:29:16,380 --> 00:29:17,590
You can listen to
these recordings,
454
00:29:17,882 --> 00:29:21,969
and you can hear the character
of the voice is very good.
455
00:29:22,261 --> 00:29:26,182
They did everything just,
you know, almost one take.
456
00:29:26,474 --> 00:29:27,975
It was literally
like they played
457
00:29:28,267 --> 00:29:33,856
live in the studio almost,
literally just banged it out.
458
00:29:34,148 --> 00:29:36,734
Trying to place
the first demo with a record
459
00:29:37,026 --> 00:29:39,528
company prove
difficult. Tracy sent
460
00:29:39,820 --> 00:29:42,239
out dozens of copies accompanied
by forthright letters
461
00:29:42,531 --> 00:29:43,032
from Kurt.
462
00:29:46,327 --> 00:29:47,953
"We're willing to
pay for the majority
463
00:29:48,245 --> 00:29:50,706
of pressing of 1,000
copies of our LP
464
00:29:50,998 --> 00:29:52,875
and all of the recording costs.
465
00:29:53,167 --> 00:29:55,753
We basically just want
to be on your label.
466
00:29:56,045 --> 00:29:58,798
Do you think you could please
send us a reply of 'fuck off'
467
00:29:59,089 --> 00:30:01,342
or 'not interested' so
we don't have to waste
468
00:30:01,634 --> 00:30:02,968
more money selling more tapes?
469
00:30:03,260 --> 00:30:03,761
Thanks.
470
00:30:04,053 --> 00:30:07,765
Nirvana."
471
00:30:08,057 --> 00:30:10,643
The demo did, in fact, result
in their first record contract
472
00:30:10,935 --> 00:30:15,439
with Sub Pop, a
new Seattle label.
473
00:30:15,731 --> 00:30:19,485
In Sub Pop, the label
was just getting started.
474
00:30:19,777 --> 00:30:22,363
And I knew those guys
had a record label.
475
00:30:22,655 --> 00:30:24,490
And they said to
me, well, look, you
476
00:30:24,782 --> 00:30:28,619
hear something good at the
studio, run it by us, you know?
477
00:30:28,911 --> 00:30:31,539
We're looking for bands
to put on our labels.
478
00:30:31,831 --> 00:30:38,128
So the Nirvana thing was a
logical one to pass on to them.
479
00:30:38,420 --> 00:30:41,799
And they didn't initially
like it that much.
480
00:30:45,094 --> 00:30:46,470
It was too metal.
481
00:31:00,317 --> 00:31:03,153
But the label
boss caught a Nirvana gig
482
00:31:03,445 --> 00:31:05,531
and gave them a chance.
483
00:31:05,823 --> 00:31:08,534
The first single, "Love
Buzz," was a critical success
484
00:31:08,826 --> 00:31:18,825
and was quickly followed
by the album "Bleach."
485
00:31:23,090 --> 00:31:26,260
Kurt himself paid for
the cost of "Bleach."
486
00:31:26,552 --> 00:31:28,721
It cost $606 to record.
487
00:31:29,013 --> 00:31:30,848
There's probably no
album in the history
488
00:31:31,140 --> 00:31:33,434
of the world that was
recorded so cheaply
489
00:31:33,726 --> 00:31:35,060
and ultimately
made so much money.
490
00:31:42,735 --> 00:31:47,364
The area that we're standing
in, back in the late '80s,
491
00:31:47,656 --> 00:31:50,409
was really a hotbed
of the music scene.
492
00:31:50,701 --> 00:31:51,994
There are funny
stories about that.
493
00:31:52,286 --> 00:31:54,288
This neighborhood's a little
bit dangerous, even still
494
00:31:54,580 --> 00:31:55,289
today sometimes.
495
00:31:55,581 --> 00:31:57,708
But when Kurt first
came to Seattle,
496
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,126
he was so afraid
he was going to get
497
00:31:59,418 --> 00:32:03,756
mugged that he stayed in his
car until the show began.
498
00:32:04,048 --> 00:32:05,215
Kurt Cobain
would have to get
499
00:32:05,507 --> 00:32:07,551
used to life in the tour bus.
500
00:32:07,843 --> 00:32:11,138
He was determined to go on
tour straight after "Bleach."
501
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:13,223
On their first trips
across America,
502
00:32:13,515 --> 00:32:15,225
Nirvana was so
poor that they had
503
00:32:15,517 --> 00:32:17,895
to hope for a big
enough audience at night
504
00:32:18,187 --> 00:32:21,523
to be able to pay for the
gasoline to the next gig.
505
00:32:21,815 --> 00:32:23,567
The years on the road had begun.
506
00:32:23,859 --> 00:32:26,737
In
your room, I'm not older.
507
00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:29,823
In your eyes, I'm not worth it.
508
00:32:30,115 --> 00:32:31,867
Gimme back my alcohol.
509
00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:33,494
Gimme back my alcohol.
510
00:32:33,786 --> 00:32:36,163
Gimme back my alcohol.
511
00:32:36,455 --> 00:32:37,873
Another myth
is that people think Nirvana
512
00:32:38,165 --> 00:32:39,500
was an overnight success.
513
00:32:39,792 --> 00:32:43,629
Well, so here was somebody
who very much wanted fame.
514
00:32:43,921 --> 00:32:47,216
And so what that meant was
put an album out, tour.
515
00:32:47,508 --> 00:32:50,594
He played five tours before
"Nevermind" came out.
516
00:32:50,886 --> 00:32:52,596
They played thousands of shows.
517
00:32:52,888 --> 00:32:54,390
They had toured Europe.
518
00:32:54,682 --> 00:32:56,934
They had been everywhere
at that point.
519
00:32:57,226 --> 00:33:00,354
So it was hard work
that made them famous.
520
00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:13,492
The initial Nirvana shows just
weren't that impressive really.
521
00:33:13,784 --> 00:33:14,827
They were OK.
522
00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:17,746
You could tell that there
was something going on.
523
00:33:18,038 --> 00:33:21,083
But they obviously
needed to work on it
524
00:33:21,375 --> 00:33:23,085
a little bit, which they did.
525
00:33:35,014 --> 00:33:36,682
And so it was very--
526
00:33:36,974 --> 00:33:41,562
usually very crowded in
the van and very smelly.
527
00:33:41,854 --> 00:33:47,443
And a lot of, you know,
juvenile jokes going around.
528
00:33:47,735 --> 00:33:53,490
And, uh, it was--
it was a good time
529
00:33:53,782 --> 00:33:57,911
but-- but-- but I think
pretty trying for everybody,
530
00:33:58,203 --> 00:34:00,372
and I think-- I think
especially for Kurt.
531
00:34:00,664 --> 00:34:03,876
I mean, he suffered from
a lot of health issues.
532
00:34:04,168 --> 00:34:07,129
And I think that it was
really, really trying for him.
533
00:34:07,421 --> 00:34:11,300
And quite possibly
those early years,
534
00:34:11,592 --> 00:34:14,553
you know, may have
forced him into drug use
535
00:34:14,845 --> 00:34:19,683
so-- just because of
his health issues.
536
00:34:19,975 --> 00:34:22,478
Kurt Cobain shaped
every aspect of the band
537
00:34:22,770 --> 00:34:24,313
and its performances.
538
00:34:24,605 --> 00:34:25,773
Nothing was left to chance.
539
00:34:30,402 --> 00:34:33,238
He came
into the-- came into the loft.
540
00:34:33,530 --> 00:34:35,866
And I had this white
backdrop paper set up.
541
00:34:36,158 --> 00:34:39,328
And said, oh, God, that's
just a boring white backdrop.
542
00:34:39,620 --> 00:34:41,747
I'm like, well, I don't know.
543
00:34:42,039 --> 00:34:42,915
What should we do?
544
00:34:43,207 --> 00:34:45,417
He's like, well, let's
draw something on it
545
00:34:45,709 --> 00:34:46,835
or paint something on it.
546
00:34:47,127 --> 00:34:48,837
I look around,
and there happened
547
00:34:49,129 --> 00:34:50,631
to be can of black spray paint.
548
00:34:50,923 --> 00:34:53,342
So I was like, here,
you knock yourself out.
549
00:34:53,634 --> 00:34:55,719
And that's what he came up with.
550
00:34:56,011 --> 00:35:01,391
And it is kind of a symbolic,
and Chad was kind of always
551
00:35:01,683 --> 00:35:05,729
posed under the
minus symbol there.
552
00:35:06,021 --> 00:35:08,941
On the way to the
top, Nirvana replaced drummer
553
00:35:09,233 --> 00:35:11,568
Chad Channing with Dave Grohl.
554
00:35:11,860 --> 00:35:13,987
And Kurt split up with his
longstanding supporter,
555
00:35:14,279 --> 00:35:15,823
Tracy Marander.
556
00:35:16,115 --> 00:35:17,783
What he needed now,
he said, was someone
557
00:35:18,075 --> 00:35:20,327
he could talk to about art.
558
00:35:20,619 --> 00:35:22,079
The dead weight of
the past had to be
559
00:35:22,371 --> 00:35:24,498
jettisoned, both privately
and professionally.
560
00:35:27,501 --> 00:35:29,962
That was the change
from the first demo
561
00:35:30,254 --> 00:35:31,630
into "Bleach," and
then continuing
562
00:35:31,922 --> 00:35:34,508
from the "Bleach" album
into the "Nevermind" record,
563
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,927
is the songs got
a little simpler,
564
00:35:37,219 --> 00:35:38,971
and the melodies
got more complex.
565
00:35:44,726 --> 00:35:48,605
Seattle, the
17th of April, 1991.
566
00:35:48,897 --> 00:35:53,277
In a club called OK Hotel,
Nirvana tried out a new song,
567
00:35:53,569 --> 00:35:55,279
"Smells like Teen Spirit."
568
00:35:55,571 --> 00:35:59,199
It's not
enough to save you.
569
00:35:59,491 --> 00:36:03,245
Oh, no, I'm not afraid of you.
570
00:36:03,537 --> 00:36:06,665
Hello, hello, hello, how low?
571
00:36:06,957 --> 00:36:08,292
Hello, hello--
572
00:36:08,584 --> 00:36:11,211
The song was
destined to be a worldwide hit.
573
00:36:11,503 --> 00:36:13,338
The music press in
Britain called Nirvana
574
00:36:13,630 --> 00:36:16,175
the leading band of
a movement that had
575
00:36:16,466 --> 00:36:17,968
been given the name "grunge."
576
00:36:18,260 --> 00:36:21,388
I'm a
liar, and I'm famous.
577
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,432
Here we are now.
578
00:36:23,724 --> 00:36:25,100
Entertain us.
579
00:36:25,392 --> 00:36:27,978
The anti
attitude of an ignored
580
00:36:28,270 --> 00:36:29,855
and lost American youth.
581
00:36:30,147 --> 00:36:31,481
Yeah!
582
00:36:31,773 --> 00:36:32,274
Hey.
583
00:36:36,695 --> 00:36:37,738
Yay.
584
00:36:38,030 --> 00:36:40,324
The "Nevermind"
album sold millions.
585
00:36:40,616 --> 00:36:42,910
And "Smells Like Teen
Spirit" became the anthem
586
00:36:43,202 --> 00:36:44,745
of a whole generation.
587
00:36:45,037 --> 00:36:47,706
Nirvana were now jetting
around the world.
588
00:36:47,998 --> 00:36:49,458
But their star
status robbed them
589
00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:51,835
of some of their credibility.
590
00:36:52,127 --> 00:36:54,671
The outsiders were being
swallowed up by the mainstream.
591
00:37:01,261 --> 00:37:03,680
"I kind of feel like a
dork writing about myself
592
00:37:03,972 --> 00:37:06,225
like this as if I were
an American pop rock
593
00:37:06,516 --> 00:37:09,061
icon demigod or a
self-confessed product
594
00:37:09,353 --> 00:37:11,355
of corporate-packaged rebellion.
595
00:37:11,647 --> 00:37:14,274
But I've heard so many
pathetic, second-rate Freudian
596
00:37:14,566 --> 00:37:17,319
evaluations from interviews
from my childhood
597
00:37:17,611 --> 00:37:20,197
up until the present
state of my personality
598
00:37:20,489 --> 00:37:23,784
and how I'm a notoriously
fucked up heroin addict,
599
00:37:24,076 --> 00:37:27,371
alcoholic, self-destructive,
yet overtly sensitive,
600
00:37:27,663 --> 00:37:31,792
frail, fragile, soft-spoken,
narcoleptic, neurotic little
601
00:37:32,084 --> 00:37:35,545
piss and who at any minute is
going to OD, jump off a roof,
602
00:37:35,837 --> 00:37:38,632
wig out, blow my head
off, or all three at once.
603
00:37:38,924 --> 00:37:40,092
Oh, please, God.
604
00:37:40,384 --> 00:37:41,969
I can't handle the success!"
605
00:37:42,261 --> 00:37:44,429
Here we are now.
606
00:37:44,721 --> 00:37:46,640
Entertain us.
607
00:37:46,932 --> 00:37:50,686
I feel stupid and contagious.
608
00:37:50,978 --> 00:37:53,689
He desperately
wanted to be famous.
609
00:37:53,981 --> 00:37:57,359
But once he became famous, he
found that there were people
610
00:37:57,651 --> 00:37:58,568
counting on him to do things.
611
00:37:58,860 --> 00:38:00,696
And Kurt did not
respond well to that.
612
00:38:04,157 --> 00:38:04,992
Nirvana.
613
00:38:06,910 --> 00:38:10,664
The winner is Nirvana,
"Smells Like Teen Spirit."
614
00:38:18,005 --> 00:38:24,136
I'd like to thank my
family and our record label
615
00:38:24,428 --> 00:38:25,887
and our true fans.
616
00:38:26,179 --> 00:38:29,850
Yeah, I think Kurt Cobain
had troubles because
617
00:38:30,142 --> 00:38:33,145
of the intense pressure
on him from the media
618
00:38:33,437 --> 00:38:35,105
and fans and the industry.
619
00:38:35,397 --> 00:38:36,857
You know, he was an
overnight sensation.
620
00:38:42,362 --> 00:38:43,822
He didn't
want to be the spokesperson
621
00:38:44,114 --> 00:38:44,990
for a generation, I think.
622
00:38:45,282 --> 00:38:47,159
He didn't like all
that attention.
623
00:38:47,451 --> 00:38:50,495
That's-- last time I saw him,
actually, was at a Breeders
624
00:38:50,787 --> 00:38:52,581
concert in Olympia.
625
00:38:52,873 --> 00:38:55,250
And I was sitting in the back.
626
00:38:55,542 --> 00:38:58,420
And all of a sudden, here comes
this guy that sat next to me.
627
00:38:58,712 --> 00:38:59,963
And we looked at each
other, and it was Kurt.
628
00:39:00,255 --> 00:39:01,089
You know, he's like, Dave?
629
00:39:01,381 --> 00:39:02,257
I'm like, Kurt?
630
00:39:02,549 --> 00:39:04,760
And we hugged and shit
and started talking.
631
00:39:05,052 --> 00:39:08,847
And he had on, like, some
goofy half-pulled-down shit.
632
00:39:09,139 --> 00:39:10,265
You know, it was hard
to recognize him.
633
00:39:10,557 --> 00:39:12,309
And these two girls
walked up and said,
634
00:39:12,601 --> 00:39:13,602
aren't you Kurt Cobain?
635
00:39:13,894 --> 00:39:15,395
And he's like, Dave, I gotta go.
636
00:39:15,687 --> 00:39:18,231
And he split.
637
00:39:18,523 --> 00:39:22,319
A public life which
the star also used as a means
638
00:39:22,611 --> 00:39:23,987
to an end.
639
00:39:26,740 --> 00:39:28,492
I'd like all of you
people in this room
640
00:39:28,784 --> 00:39:31,411
to know that Courtney
Love, the lead singer
641
00:39:31,703 --> 00:39:33,872
of the sensational
pop group Hole
642
00:39:34,164 --> 00:39:36,917
is the best fuck in the world.
643
00:39:37,209 --> 00:39:40,212
A stressed-out Kurt
Cobain's provocative appearance
644
00:39:40,504 --> 00:39:42,047
in a TV show.
645
00:39:42,339 --> 00:39:44,674
He got to know Courtney Love,
the singer with the rock
646
00:39:44,966 --> 00:39:47,010
band Hole, on his way up.
647
00:39:47,302 --> 00:39:49,554
The two had star
status in common,
648
00:39:49,846 --> 00:39:51,807
as well as drugs
and a background
649
00:39:52,099 --> 00:39:53,683
of dysfunctional families.
650
00:39:53,975 --> 00:39:56,436
At their first meeting,
Courtney is supposed
651
00:39:56,728 --> 00:39:58,355
to have punched
Kurt in the stomach,
652
00:39:58,647 --> 00:40:00,982
her way of showing affection.
653
00:40:01,274 --> 00:40:04,653
They became the Sid and
Nancy of the media society.
654
00:40:04,945 --> 00:40:07,072
Their breakdowns
in excesses were
655
00:40:07,364 --> 00:40:09,825
meat and drink to the popular
press, which both loved
656
00:40:10,117 --> 00:40:13,787
them and hounded them.
657
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:18,208
They married in Hawaii in 1992.
658
00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:19,835
Two
characters in a play,
659
00:40:20,127 --> 00:40:23,880
where one is the villain one
day, and the other is the hero.
660
00:40:24,172 --> 00:40:26,091
And the next day, it switches.
661
00:40:26,383 --> 00:40:27,801
It at times was combative.
662
00:40:28,093 --> 00:40:30,387
But at other times,
it was not combative.
663
00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:33,432
But you add these other
external elements.
664
00:40:33,723 --> 00:40:34,641
You add fame.
665
00:40:34,933 --> 00:40:36,143
You add money.
666
00:40:36,435 --> 00:40:39,104
You add drugs into that picture.
667
00:40:39,396 --> 00:40:43,191
And you add not just
fame but huge fame.
668
00:40:43,483 --> 00:40:46,695
And it's a very tumultuous mix.
669
00:40:46,987 --> 00:40:49,156
In 1992, their
daughter, Frances Bean,
670
00:40:49,448 --> 00:40:50,532
was born.
671
00:40:50,824 --> 00:40:53,243
Kurt loved his child
more than anything else.
672
00:40:53,535 --> 00:40:55,662
A journalist alleged that
Courtney Love had taken
673
00:40:55,954 --> 00:40:57,831
drugs during her pregnancy.
674
00:40:58,123 --> 00:41:00,041
This led to a long
drawn-out and grueling
675
00:41:00,333 --> 00:41:03,462
battle with the authorities
about custody of the child.
676
00:41:19,436 --> 00:41:22,272
Life in the
fast lane took its toll.
677
00:41:22,564 --> 00:41:25,025
But Kurt Cobain also
exploited the image
678
00:41:25,317 --> 00:41:26,651
of the vulnerable artist.
679
00:41:33,492 --> 00:41:35,660
This was from the
Reading Festival
680
00:41:35,952 --> 00:41:38,955
in 1992, the second
time they played that.
681
00:41:39,247 --> 00:41:41,208
And this was the show
where Kurt was wheeled
682
00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:44,336
out in a wheelchair,
pretending that, you know,
683
00:41:44,628 --> 00:41:46,004
that he was sick.
684
00:41:46,296 --> 00:41:48,048
And there were
rumors going around
685
00:41:48,340 --> 00:41:49,966
that because of
this drug addiction
686
00:41:50,258 --> 00:41:52,886
he wouldn't be able
to play the show.
687
00:41:53,178 --> 00:41:56,598
And it was just absolute epic.
688
00:42:01,978 --> 00:42:04,856
Again and again, Kurt
Cobain withdrew completely,
689
00:42:05,148 --> 00:42:08,985
taking refuge in
painting and in drugs.
690
00:42:09,277 --> 00:42:11,446
For a time, he refused
either to make another record
691
00:42:11,738 --> 00:42:13,281
or to go on tour.
692
00:42:13,573 --> 00:42:17,327
But finally, a new album
did appear, "In Utero."
693
00:42:17,619 --> 00:42:21,122
It was on the following tour
that Cobain's health gave out.
694
00:42:21,414 --> 00:42:23,375
A concert in Munich
was cut short.
695
00:42:23,667 --> 00:42:27,128
It was destined to be his last.
696
00:42:27,420 --> 00:42:29,381
This here's a picture
697
00:42:29,673 --> 00:42:32,467
I was talking about of Kurt
alone onstage from behind,
698
00:42:32,759 --> 00:42:35,971
and this is from 1992.
699
00:42:36,263 --> 00:42:39,266
And yeah, you just
see that body language
700
00:42:39,558 --> 00:42:43,603
there, I mean, his curvature of
the spine and just this sense
701
00:42:43,895 --> 00:42:47,524
of being up there all
alone, you know, just really
702
00:42:47,816 --> 00:42:49,651
alone in the world
at that point,
703
00:42:49,943 --> 00:42:51,069
because they were
getting so big.
704
00:42:54,531 --> 00:42:57,033
An isolation that
was largely due to drugs.
705
00:43:06,543 --> 00:43:07,877
Kurt
didn't truly become
706
00:43:08,169 --> 00:43:11,339
a drug addict until after
"Nevermind" was even released.
707
00:43:11,631 --> 00:43:14,426
He certainly had
experimented with opiates.
708
00:43:14,718 --> 00:43:16,761
And they come up in some of
the lyrics on that album.
709
00:43:17,053 --> 00:43:18,388
There's no denying that.
710
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,016
But even Kurt in
his diaries talks
711
00:43:21,308 --> 00:43:26,354
about how drugs were messed up.
712
00:43:26,646 --> 00:43:29,566
What I saw as
being a guy who is basically
713
00:43:29,858 --> 00:43:34,321
the same age-- 18 or
19 or 20 years old--
714
00:43:34,613 --> 00:43:35,905
he didn't even drink that much.
715
00:43:36,197 --> 00:43:37,324
He hardly ever drank.
716
00:43:37,616 --> 00:43:40,368
I never really saw him
use a lot of drugs.
717
00:43:40,660 --> 00:43:45,248
That was just not-- I mean,
a lot of us did, not Kurt.
718
00:43:45,540 --> 00:43:48,918
He liked to be in
control most of the time.
719
00:43:49,210 --> 00:43:53,048
I didn't see this person
who passed out at parties
720
00:43:53,340 --> 00:43:54,549
or got sick.
721
00:43:54,841 --> 00:44:00,430
That's not who I knew in
1986, 1987, through 1989.
722
00:44:09,064 --> 00:44:12,192
To devote himself
undisturbed to drugs,
723
00:44:12,484 --> 00:44:14,527
Kurt Cobain moved
into cheap motels
724
00:44:14,819 --> 00:44:16,071
on the outskirts of Seattle.
725
00:44:35,757 --> 00:44:36,883
He was
in those sleazy motels
726
00:44:37,175 --> 00:44:38,677
for part of that time.
727
00:44:38,968 --> 00:44:40,512
He was trying to escape.
728
00:44:40,804 --> 00:44:43,723
Heroin's effect is such
that somebody is high,
729
00:44:44,015 --> 00:44:44,933
they don't want to do anything.
730
00:44:45,225 --> 00:44:47,060
They want to get off the couch.
731
00:44:47,352 --> 00:44:51,064
Kurt was not very productive
during this drug periods.
732
00:44:55,235 --> 00:44:57,153
At the height
of his addiction,
733
00:44:57,445 --> 00:44:59,656
Kurt Cobain was spending
hundreds of thousands
734
00:44:59,948 --> 00:45:03,159
of dollars a year
on drugs or rehab.
735
00:45:09,499 --> 00:45:12,168
Well, there
were so many turning points.
736
00:45:12,460 --> 00:45:14,504
In the life of somebody
that's an addict,
737
00:45:14,796 --> 00:45:18,091
it's 1,000 slow suicides.
738
00:45:18,383 --> 00:45:21,928
With Kurt, though,
clearly the intervention
739
00:45:22,220 --> 00:45:28,226
that happened in Seattle in
late March of 1994, before Kurt
740
00:45:28,518 --> 00:45:32,230
went to Los Angeles, he
went and bought a shotgun
741
00:45:32,522 --> 00:45:34,315
and hid it in his house.
742
00:45:34,607 --> 00:45:35,859
And then he agreed
to go to rehab.
743
00:45:39,738 --> 00:45:41,322
Los Angeles.
744
00:45:41,614 --> 00:45:44,200
While Kurt Cobain was
in a rehab clinic,
745
00:45:44,492 --> 00:45:46,870
Courtney Love was trying
to get clean in the luxury
746
00:45:47,162 --> 00:45:49,038
Peninsula Hotel
in Beverly Hills.
747
00:45:55,545 --> 00:45:58,506
After a few days, Kurt
Cobain abandoned rehab.
748
00:46:04,929 --> 00:46:06,848
I remember running
into him about two weeks
749
00:46:07,140 --> 00:46:07,974
before he passed away.
750
00:46:08,266 --> 00:46:09,726
And he actually
gave me his phone
751
00:46:10,018 --> 00:46:11,436
number, his new phone number.
752
00:46:11,728 --> 00:46:13,438
He was like, oh, give
me-- give me a call.
753
00:46:13,730 --> 00:46:15,482
I want to hang out with you.
754
00:46:15,774 --> 00:46:18,568
It's like, I don't think he had
a lot of friends at that point,
755
00:46:18,860 --> 00:46:20,779
because, well, he
was a drug addict.
756
00:46:21,070 --> 00:46:25,700
And drug addicts just hang
out with other drug addicts
757
00:46:25,992 --> 00:46:28,369
or-- you know, in the
house watching TV.
758
00:46:33,124 --> 00:46:34,501
"I feel
compelled to say
759
00:46:34,793 --> 00:46:38,004
fuck you, fuck you, to those
of you who have absolutely
760
00:46:38,296 --> 00:46:40,215
no regard for me as a person.
761
00:46:40,507 --> 00:46:43,510
You have raped me harder
than you'll ever know.
762
00:46:43,802 --> 00:46:45,845
So again, I say fuck you.
763
00:46:46,137 --> 00:46:49,098
Although this phrase has totally
lost its meaning, fuck you!
764
00:46:49,390 --> 00:46:54,437
Fuck you!"
765
00:48:04,883 --> 00:48:05,675
I don't know.
766
00:48:05,967 --> 00:48:06,885
What would you think?
767
00:48:07,176 --> 00:48:08,595
I don't have anything
to say about it, really.
768
00:48:08,887 --> 00:48:11,264
It's-- I wasn't
very happy about it.
769
00:48:14,267 --> 00:48:18,021
I felt like the world was just
that much less exciting place
770
00:48:18,313 --> 00:48:20,023
to be now all of a sudden.
771
00:48:20,315 --> 00:48:24,110
And-- and I also felt like
there were several times when
772
00:48:24,402 --> 00:48:28,615
I wanted to call or reconnect
with him and thought,
773
00:48:28,907 --> 00:48:30,074
I should give him a phone.
774
00:48:30,366 --> 00:48:31,367
And I never did.
775
00:48:31,659 --> 00:48:34,913
And I instantly just knew
that I'd be regretting
776
00:48:35,204 --> 00:48:37,707
that for the rest of my life.
777
00:48:37,999 --> 00:48:39,250
I was at home.
778
00:48:39,542 --> 00:48:42,545
And I remember holding my-- I
had my five-month-old daughter.
779
00:48:42,837 --> 00:48:45,089
And it came over
the news, right?
780
00:48:45,381 --> 00:48:48,259
And I just had just
chills, you know?
781
00:48:48,551 --> 00:48:50,428
And I set my daughter down.
782
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:51,888
I was like, whoa.
783
00:48:52,180 --> 00:48:53,473
And then the phone rang.
784
00:48:53,765 --> 00:48:58,061
And that was "Entertainment
Weekly" saying, oh, Kurt died.
785
00:48:58,353 --> 00:48:59,062
We need photos.
786
00:48:59,354 --> 00:49:01,773
I'm like, you're kidding.
787
00:49:02,065 --> 00:49:06,569
And I thought, oh, that bastard,
like, you know, drug overdose.
788
00:49:10,073 --> 00:49:11,950
Just it pissed me off.
789
00:49:12,241 --> 00:49:13,785
My mom called me
and said, you've
790
00:49:14,077 --> 00:49:15,578
been listening to the
radio or watching the news?
791
00:49:15,870 --> 00:49:16,746
And I'm like, no.
792
00:49:17,038 --> 00:49:18,790
And she goes, well,
you better sit down.
793
00:49:19,082 --> 00:49:20,875
And she goes, yeah,
Kurt shot himself.
794
00:49:21,167 --> 00:49:23,503
And I'm like, is he dead?
795
00:49:23,795 --> 00:49:25,964
I was just, like, in shock.
796
00:49:26,255 --> 00:49:27,966
And she's like, yeah, he's dead.
797
00:49:28,257 --> 00:49:30,093
Fuck, I couldn't believe it.
798
00:49:30,385 --> 00:49:33,096
When they called us, first,
she says-- she says she got it.
799
00:49:33,388 --> 00:49:37,642
And she called us and
said, well, he done it.
800
00:49:37,934 --> 00:49:40,353
And I asked Iris, the
one who was on the phone,
801
00:49:40,645 --> 00:49:41,312
and I said, done what?
802
00:49:41,604 --> 00:49:44,482
And she said, he
committed suicide.
803
00:49:44,774 --> 00:49:50,571
And, uh, it shook
her up to be ill.
804
00:50:08,965 --> 00:50:10,174
This
was a public park.
805
00:50:10,466 --> 00:50:13,386
Kurt did occasionally
come over to this bench.
806
00:50:13,678 --> 00:50:16,806
Courtney did say after his
death that she scattered some
807
00:50:17,098 --> 00:50:20,351
of his ashes over
here and also some
808
00:50:20,643 --> 00:50:22,770
in the house under some trees.
809
00:50:23,062 --> 00:50:27,567
So there is a public
memorial in Seattle to Kurt.
810
00:50:27,859 --> 00:50:29,152
There's no official statue.
811
00:50:29,444 --> 00:50:31,279
There's no anything.
812
00:50:31,571 --> 00:50:32,989
No park named after him.
813
00:50:33,281 --> 00:50:37,035
This park has become the
unofficial kind of memorial
814
00:50:37,326 --> 00:50:37,827
to Kurt Cobain.
815
00:50:46,085 --> 00:50:48,337
For me, it's a very
sad place as well,
816
00:50:48,629 --> 00:50:51,716
to imagine that-- to imagine
that there was a point where he
817
00:50:52,008 --> 00:50:55,970
was so distraught living in
this beautiful house with all
818
00:50:56,262 --> 00:50:59,223
the talent he had, and
yet he wanted to die.
819
00:50:59,515 --> 00:51:02,769
And I have empathy for
it, but it's also very sad
820
00:51:03,061 --> 00:51:05,605
to think that that's
the choice that he made
821
00:51:05,897 --> 00:51:07,398
and that he felt that
hopeless in his life.
822
00:51:11,652 --> 00:51:12,987
His house was
somewhere over here?
823
00:51:13,279 --> 00:51:14,155
- That's his house.
- Oh, this?
824
00:51:14,447 --> 00:51:15,823
Oh.
825
00:51:16,115 --> 00:51:18,034
He died in a green
house that was
826
00:51:18,326 --> 00:51:22,205
in the back of the property,
which has been plowed down.
827
00:51:22,497 --> 00:51:26,751
I feel like that's the view
that MTV would put on the news,
828
00:51:27,043 --> 00:51:30,171
like, right here, just
kind of that piece.
829
00:51:30,463 --> 00:51:33,299
Aspiring cameramen went
up the street behind,
830
00:51:33,591 --> 00:51:36,302
climbed on a ladder, and
then shot down on his house.
831
00:51:36,594 --> 00:51:39,097
So that's also the picture
that everyone remembers.
832
00:51:39,388 --> 00:51:42,517
And sadly, there was a
picture of Kurt dead lying
833
00:51:42,809 --> 00:51:45,603
in the green house that a
photographer shot from a ladder
834
00:51:45,895 --> 00:51:46,395
in the back there.
835
00:51:49,816 --> 00:51:50,983
So did you know him?
836
00:51:51,275 --> 00:51:51,859
I did, yeah.
837
00:51:52,151 --> 00:51:52,652
Cool.
838
00:52:19,053 --> 00:52:20,304
I'm sorry.
839
00:52:20,596 --> 00:52:25,101
This is the last-- this is
the last song of the evening.
840
00:52:43,244 --> 00:52:47,665
What
else should I be?
841
00:52:47,957 --> 00:52:48,583
All apologies.
842
00:52:52,295 --> 00:52:56,799
What else should I say?
843
00:52:57,091 --> 00:53:00,845
Everyone is gay.
844
00:53:01,137 --> 00:53:05,975
What else should I write?
845
00:53:06,267 --> 00:53:10,021
I don't have the right.
846
00:53:10,313 --> 00:53:14,483
What else should I be?
847
00:53:16,527 --> 00:53:20,406
It would be nice to eventually
start playing acoustic guitars
848
00:53:20,698 --> 00:53:24,076
and be thought of as a
singer and a songwriter
849
00:53:24,368 --> 00:53:27,079
rather than a grunge
rocker, you know,
850
00:53:27,371 --> 00:53:29,332
because then I might be able
to take advantage of that
851
00:53:29,624 --> 00:53:32,126
when I'm older and
sit down on a chair
852
00:53:32,418 --> 00:53:35,546
and play acoustic guitar like--
like Johnny Cash or something,
853
00:53:35,838 --> 00:53:36,547
you know?
854
00:53:36,839 --> 00:53:38,424
And it won't be a big joke.
855
00:53:38,716 --> 00:53:40,426
Who knows?
66587
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