All language subtitles for The Honey Trap (2024)_en

af Afrikaans
ak Akan
sq Albanian
am Amharic
ar Arabic
hy Armenian
az Azerbaijani
eu Basque
be Belarusian
bem Bemba
bn Bengali
bh Bihari
bs Bosnian
br Breton
bg Bulgarian
km Cambodian
ca Catalan
ceb Cebuano
chr Cherokee
ny Chichewa
zh-CN Chinese (Simplified)
zh-TW Chinese (Traditional)
co Corsican
hr Croatian
cs Czech
da Danish
nl Dutch
en English Download
eo Esperanto
et Estonian
ee Ewe
fo Faroese
tl Filipino
fi Finnish
fr French
fy Frisian
gaa Ga
gl Galician
ka Georgian
de German
el Greek
gn Guarani
gu Gujarati
ht Haitian Creole
ha Hausa
haw Hawaiian
iw Hebrew
hi Hindi
hmn Hmong
hu Hungarian Download
is Icelandic
ig Igbo
id Indonesian
ia Interlingua
ga Irish
it Italian
ja Japanese
jw Javanese
kn Kannada
kk Kazakh
rw Kinyarwanda
rn Kirundi
kg Kongo
ko Korean
kri Krio (Sierra Leone)
ku Kurdish
ckb Kurdish (Soranî)
ky Kyrgyz
lo Laothian
la Latin
lv Latvian
ln Lingala
lt Lithuanian
loz Lozi
lg Luganda
ach Luo
lb Luxembourgish
mk Macedonian
mg Malagasy
ms Malay
ml Malayalam
mt Maltese
mi Maori
mr Marathi
mfe Mauritian Creole
mo Moldavian
mn Mongolian
my Myanmar (Burmese)
sr-ME Montenegrin
ne Nepali
pcm Nigerian Pidgin
nso Northern Sotho
no Norwegian
nn Norwegian (Nynorsk)
oc Occitan
or Oriya
om Oromo
ps Pashto
fa Persian
pl Polish
pt-BR Portuguese (Brazil)
pt Portuguese (Portugal)
pa Punjabi
qu Quechua
ro Romanian
rm Romansh
nyn Runyakitara
ru Russian
sm Samoan
gd Scots Gaelic
sr Serbian
sh Serbo-Croatian
st Sesotho
tn Setswana
crs Seychellois Creole
sn Shona
sd Sindhi
si Sinhalese
sk Slovak
sl Slovenian
so Somali
es Spanish Download
es-419 Spanish (Latin American) Download
su Sundanese
sw Swahili
sv Swedish
tg Tajik
ta Tamil
tt Tatar
te Telugu
th Thai
ti Tigrinya
to Tonga
lua Tshiluba
tum Tumbuka
tr Turkish
tk Turkmen
tw Twi
ug Uighur
uk Ukrainian
ur Urdu
uz Uzbek
vi Vietnamese
cy Welsh
wo Wolof
xh Xhosa
yi Yiddish
yo Yoruba
zu Zulu
Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,458 --> 00:00:03,795  ♪♪♪  2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:17,267 --> 00:00:20,311  ♪ intense music plays ♪  5 00:00:27,152 --> 00:00:28,862       Good          evening, my fellow Americans.    6 00:00:30,447 --> 00:00:33,283  First, I should like   to express my gratitude  7 00:00:33,283 --> 00:00:35,910  to the radio   and television networks  8 00:00:35,952 --> 00:00:39,247  for the opportunities they          have given me over the years    9 00:00:39,289 --> 00:00:42,375  to bring reports       and messages to our nation.     10 00:00:43,585 --> 00:00:47,547  ♪♪♪  11 00:00:47,589 --> 00:00:51,634      We annually spend         on military security alone,     12 00:00:51,676 --> 00:00:55,722  more than the net income of all         United States corporations.     13 00:00:58,933 --> 00:01:00,560     In the councils of government,  14 00:01:00,602 --> 00:01:02,270  we must guard against  15 00:01:02,312 --> 00:01:04,773  the acquisition   of unwarranted influence,      16 00:01:04,814 --> 00:01:06,941  whether sought or unsought     17 00:01:06,941 --> 00:01:09,986  by the military-industrial      complex.  18 00:01:10,028 --> 00:01:11,863       President Eisenhower      used the term  19 00:01:11,905 --> 00:01:14,282      military-industrial complex      in his farewell address,      20 00:01:14,324 --> 00:01:16,868  and what that referred     to is this increasing alliance    21 00:01:16,910 --> 00:01:18,787  between our industrial capacity    22 00:01:18,828 --> 00:01:20,121  in the United States   and the military.  23 00:01:22,457 --> 00:01:23,833    War is fought   on the battlefields  24 00:01:23,875 --> 00:01:26,294  with kinetic energy   and kinetic weapons,  25 00:01:26,294 --> 00:01:28,213  but also,   it's fought in the mind.      26 00:01:28,254 --> 00:01:29,964     It's fought in public opinion.  27 00:01:30,006 --> 00:01:32,217  It's fought through   public relations and propaganda.  28 00:01:34,135 --> 00:01:35,887  The military-entertainment      complex,  29 00:01:35,929 --> 00:01:37,472  as a term,   is playing off of that.  30 00:01:37,514 --> 00:01:40,517     It's suggesting that a similar       kind of alliance is forming,    31 00:01:40,558 --> 00:01:43,228      not with industrial powers,         but with entertainment powers.  32 00:01:45,271 --> 00:01:47,774      The  really powerful       storytelling mechanism  33 00:01:47,816 --> 00:01:48,775  that is Hollywood,  34 00:01:48,817 --> 00:01:50,610  speaks to a different   part of us.  35 00:01:50,652 --> 00:01:52,946  It speaks to an emotional       register.  36 00:01:52,987 --> 00:01:55,156  It is the most powerful   storytelling mechanism  37 00:01:55,156 --> 00:01:57,075    ever devised by human beings.     38 00:01:58,201 --> 00:01:59,702  In the invasion of Iraq,      39 00:01:59,744 --> 00:02:03,331  we found out a lot about       how the military massages      40 00:02:03,373 --> 00:02:05,667  and manipulates   those industries  41 00:02:05,708 --> 00:02:06,918  to get its message out.  42 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,337  We must stop the terror.  43 00:02:09,337 --> 00:02:11,005  Now, watch this drive.  44 00:02:11,047 --> 00:02:12,340       Do you trust this   person?  45 00:02:12,340 --> 00:02:13,258  Yes, I do.  46 00:02:13,299 --> 00:02:14,843    Combat boots and   fatigues,  47 00:02:14,884 --> 00:02:16,302  mingled with stilettos   and bling.  48 00:02:16,344 --> 00:02:17,679  Good evening, Achmed.  49 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:23,309  Good evening... infidel.  50 00:02:23,351 --> 00:02:25,353       But, if you can get       history written  51 00:02:25,395 --> 00:02:27,897  in Hollywood celluloid,  52 00:02:27,897 --> 00:02:31,151  then you've really done      your job in selling the public  53 00:02:31,192 --> 00:02:34,070  on the story   that you wanna tell.  54 00:02:34,112 --> 00:02:35,613      In the battle     of Iraq,  55 00:02:35,655 --> 00:02:39,701  the United States     and our allies have prevailed.    56 00:02:43,204 --> 00:02:46,291  There are large dominant  57 00:02:46,332 --> 00:02:48,126  military-entertainment complexes   out there,  58 00:02:48,168 --> 00:02:49,711  but there's a lot   of small ones too  59 00:02:49,752 --> 00:02:52,338     that are vying for attention      and brain space.  60 00:02:53,673 --> 00:02:55,216  And ISIS is one of them.  61 00:02:55,258 --> 00:02:58,219  ♪♪♪  62 00:03:22,660 --> 00:03:23,953     ISIS has released  63 00:03:23,995 --> 00:03:25,705  a new propaganda video.  64 00:03:26,706 --> 00:03:29,334    This production         displays glossy camera work     65 00:03:29,375 --> 00:03:31,628  and high-level   production techniques.  66 00:03:32,921 --> 00:03:34,255     The ISIS PR machine  67 00:03:34,255 --> 00:03:36,216  is constantly making sure      68 00:03:36,257 --> 00:03:38,551  the world is aware.  69 00:03:49,938 --> 00:03:52,023     Denis Cuspert is his real name,    70 00:03:52,065 --> 00:03:53,983  a former German rapper,  71 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,403  a notorious ISIS fighter       and recruiter.  72 00:04:07,163 --> 00:04:08,706  Allahu Akbar.  73 00:04:09,165 --> 00:04:11,167    He was the face of ISIS.  74 00:04:11,209 --> 00:04:14,212      There were no celebrities   in ISIS except for him.  75 00:04:14,212 --> 00:04:15,755     They would put him on YouTube.  76 00:04:15,797 --> 00:04:17,590     They would put him everywhere,   all the time.  77 00:04:17,632 --> 00:04:20,134  They were constantly   broadcasting Denis.  78 00:04:20,134 --> 00:04:21,886  Denis Cuspert had,   you know, basically  79 00:04:21,928 --> 00:04:23,304      rock star status in ISIS.  80 00:04:23,346 --> 00:04:25,848  This individual had   a relative free rein  81 00:04:25,890 --> 00:04:28,309  to encourage   and recruit others online.     82 00:04:28,351 --> 00:04:30,478    When I met Denis   the first time,  83 00:04:30,478 --> 00:04:32,522  I could see   he was very charismatic.      84 00:04:32,522 --> 00:04:33,856  I could clearly see   this is somebody  85 00:04:33,898 --> 00:04:35,650    who was gonna become a leader.    86 00:04:35,692 --> 00:04:37,777       Denis Cuspert having         his own social media accounts,  87 00:04:37,819 --> 00:04:40,655  creating propaganda,       and just trying to make it      88 00:04:40,697 --> 00:04:42,323  more personalized   for people back home.  89 00:04:50,540 --> 00:04:53,167    If I'm the FBI,   they've seen the videos.      90 00:04:53,209 --> 00:04:54,669  They know he's a player.      91 00:04:54,711 --> 00:04:56,087  It makes sense to target Denis.    92 00:05:06,180 --> 00:05:08,558    Daniela Greene   was hired by the FBI,  93 00:05:08,558 --> 00:05:09,851  as an FBI linguist,  94 00:05:09,892 --> 00:05:11,352  a skill set   they desperately needed.      95 00:05:14,147 --> 00:05:15,440  Allahu Akbar.  96 00:05:16,566 --> 00:05:19,110  Allahu Akbar.  97 00:05:19,152 --> 00:05:21,988   Allahu Akbar.  98 00:05:22,030 --> 00:05:24,907  The FBI thought,      "Let's take this young woman     99 00:05:24,907 --> 00:05:27,160  and let's put her up   against him."  100 00:05:30,496 --> 00:05:33,624       But communicating       gives you their thoughts      101 00:05:33,666 --> 00:05:34,959  and their motivations,  102 00:05:35,001 --> 00:05:38,755  and it gives you kind       of a window into their soul.    103 00:05:40,548 --> 00:05:45,470  Honey Trap operations,   they come with risks.  104 00:05:45,511 --> 00:05:48,264  Humans all have   vulnerabilities,  105 00:05:48,306 --> 00:05:51,434  and there's no greater   vulnerability than sex,  106 00:05:51,476 --> 00:05:53,186  and romance, and love.  107 00:05:53,227 --> 00:05:55,772       Allahu Akbar. Allahu.      108 00:05:55,772 --> 00:05:58,024  Allahu Akbar.    109 00:07:19,647 --> 00:07:22,525       I had heard of Denis      during my teenage years.      110 00:07:23,651 --> 00:07:27,947     He was a figure who hung out      with people from my high school.  111 00:07:28,948 --> 00:07:30,658  He was very charming.  112 00:07:30,658 --> 00:07:34,120  There were girls   who had a crush on Denis,      113 00:07:34,162 --> 00:07:37,498  but he was well-known   as someone who had a spectacular  114 00:07:37,540 --> 00:07:41,043  kind of criminal past   in terms of very violent crimes    115 00:07:41,085 --> 00:07:42,962  that he'd gone to jail   for repeatedly.  116 00:08:02,732 --> 00:08:07,069    Denis came out of prison   from a longer stint,  117 00:08:07,111 --> 00:08:09,071      and he came out and decided     118 00:08:09,113 --> 00:08:11,616  that he was   gonna do gangster rap.  119 00:09:37,326 --> 00:09:40,246  ♪♪♪  120 00:09:46,335 --> 00:09:49,213    In Kreuzberg,       the kind of most famous gang    121 00:09:49,213 --> 00:09:50,923  was "36 Boys,"  122 00:09:50,965 --> 00:09:53,634  which was a gang   of mostly Turkish  123 00:09:53,676 --> 00:09:55,595      and Arab and Kurdish youth.     124 00:09:56,596 --> 00:09:58,431  Denis was a member of the gang.    125 00:09:58,472 --> 00:09:59,974  He hung with them.  126 00:12:45,598 --> 00:12:48,350        Denis grew up in West Berlin,    127 00:12:48,392 --> 00:12:51,312  which was occupied   by American soldiers.  128 00:12:51,353 --> 00:12:54,356  ♪♪♪  129 00:12:55,733 --> 00:12:59,111    In 1945,   the US liberates Germany      130 00:12:59,111 --> 00:13:00,112  from Nazi rule.  131 00:13:00,696 --> 00:13:01,989       Liberated, occupied.     132 00:13:01,989 --> 00:13:04,450  It's important to always       add that.  133 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,914  When the US Army   occupied Germany,  134 00:13:09,914 --> 00:13:12,124  the US Army   was still segregated.  135 00:13:12,166 --> 00:13:14,043  Black American soldiers   were fighting  136 00:13:14,084 --> 00:13:16,086  in a segregated US Army,      137 00:13:16,128 --> 00:13:18,255  and occupying a country   where they were told,  138 00:13:18,297 --> 00:13:19,465  "This is an enemy population.    139 00:13:19,507 --> 00:13:23,010  There were   non-fraternization rules.      140 00:13:23,052 --> 00:13:24,345  But they were starving  141 00:13:24,345 --> 00:13:26,472  and living in   bombed-out cities.  142 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,767  Black American G.I.s   were particularly  143 00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:31,143  friendly and generous.  144 00:13:32,853 --> 00:13:33,979  Within a year,   you have children  145 00:13:34,021 --> 00:13:36,357      born who are biracial kids.     146 00:13:36,398 --> 00:13:40,027  So, that was part   of what was associated  147 00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:42,655      with Blackness, was America.    148 00:13:47,368 --> 00:13:51,288    Denis' mom      was a young woman in the 70s.    149 00:13:51,330 --> 00:13:53,123      She was living in Kreuzberg      at the time  150 00:13:53,165 --> 00:13:54,667  in an unheated apartment  151 00:13:54,708 --> 00:13:57,837  with no warm water,   that kind of thing.  152 00:13:59,296 --> 00:14:01,257      She would go to night clubs     153 00:14:01,257 --> 00:14:04,468  where American G.I.s   would hang out.  154 00:14:04,510 --> 00:14:07,012     Then she met this DJ one night   at a night club  155 00:14:07,429 --> 00:14:09,682  from Ghana,   who was playing there.  156 00:14:11,475 --> 00:14:16,063  Denis' biological father           was deported back to Ghana.     157 00:14:16,105 --> 00:14:17,690     And she never saw him again.     158 00:14:17,731 --> 00:14:19,316  She said she had      one photo of him somewhere.      159 00:14:21,485 --> 00:14:25,030       Denis was born then,      very premature.  160 00:14:25,072 --> 00:14:28,701  Denis had no relationship       to his biological father.      161 00:14:29,785 --> 00:14:32,037  She actually showed me   an outfit,  162 00:14:32,079 --> 00:14:33,622  the first outfit   that she dressed him in.  163 00:14:33,664 --> 00:14:35,624    She had it pinned to the wall      in her apartment.  164 00:14:35,666 --> 00:14:39,879    It was a Woolworth teddy bear      that she dressed him  165 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,048     in the-- in the teddy bear's      like overalls.  166 00:14:43,090 --> 00:14:45,759     They were really very tiny.      167 00:14:45,759 --> 00:14:49,054  A couple of years later,          when Denis was three or four,    168 00:14:49,096 --> 00:14:50,764  she met Benjamin Cuspert      169 00:14:50,806 --> 00:14:53,851      who was an American soldier      in Berlin,  170 00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:58,606  and they married,   and had a second son, Jermaine.    171 00:15:00,941 --> 00:15:03,193  It's kind of interesting       that Germany's  172 00:15:03,193 --> 00:15:04,987  most well-known terrorist      173 00:15:05,029 --> 00:15:07,448  carries the name   of an American soldier.  174 00:15:07,489 --> 00:15:10,534  ♪♪♪  175 00:16:01,001 --> 00:16:02,670  ♪♪♪  176 00:16:45,462 --> 00:16:48,549    The media,   which contains journalism,     177 00:16:48,590 --> 00:16:52,469      which contains Hollywood,   and entertainment,  178 00:16:52,511 --> 00:16:55,347  people have called that   the fourth branch of government.  179 00:16:57,558 --> 00:17:01,353  Part of the storytelling       is how Muslims  180 00:17:01,395 --> 00:17:05,941      are understood by Hollywood     181 00:17:05,983 --> 00:17:08,736  and the American   political system.  182 00:17:10,279 --> 00:17:13,157  Frequently,   it's so hard to get away      183 00:17:13,198 --> 00:17:15,826  from the casting   of the characters  184 00:17:15,826 --> 00:17:19,913  like Denis   as the Muslim boogeyman.      185 00:17:19,955 --> 00:17:24,918     Now, what I find interesting      is how that story  186 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,922  can open us up   to talking about stories  187 00:17:28,964 --> 00:17:31,383      that operate as propaganda      188 00:17:31,425 --> 00:17:34,595    to consent to military action.    189 00:17:41,643 --> 00:17:44,438     From the earliest films,      190 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,317  there's been   quite a long history  191 00:17:48,317 --> 00:17:51,779  of representing Arabs,  192 00:17:51,820 --> 00:17:56,116  the Middle East, Muslims       in a certain kind of way.      193 00:17:56,116 --> 00:17:57,743    In terms   of the representations  194 00:17:57,785 --> 00:17:59,036  of Middle East  --  195 00:17:59,078 --> 00:18:00,829  If you went to the Middle East,     you will find  196 00:18:00,871 --> 00:18:04,124  incredible diversity,   like all human beings.  197 00:18:04,166 --> 00:18:06,376  And yet, if you looked at       Hollywood films,  198 00:18:06,376 --> 00:18:09,463  which for a long time   was the main propaganda  199 00:18:09,505 --> 00:18:13,425  that was representing   American state power  200 00:18:13,467 --> 00:18:15,469     and American corporate power,    201 00:18:15,511 --> 00:18:18,097  you'd find a very,   very narrow range.  202 00:18:18,138 --> 00:18:21,141     You'd better be able to pay       for that.  203 00:18:21,141 --> 00:18:24,645     Do you know what the penalty      is for stealing?  204 00:18:24,686 --> 00:18:26,980    There is a scholar   called Jack Shaheen.  205 00:18:27,022 --> 00:18:31,068  He went through Hollywood films     and documented  206 00:18:31,068 --> 00:18:33,403     how Arabs were represented.      207 00:18:33,445 --> 00:18:35,781  Very, very dehumanizing.      208 00:18:35,823 --> 00:18:37,658  So you're sitting   like I am, for example,  209 00:18:37,658 --> 00:18:39,368     watching  Back To The Future--    210 00:18:39,409 --> 00:18:43,122  Why does Hollywood inject Arabs    211 00:18:43,163 --> 00:18:46,166      and/or slurs demeaning Arabs    212 00:18:46,208 --> 00:18:48,752  in movies having nothing           to do with the Middle East?     213 00:18:48,794 --> 00:18:50,254  Who? Who?  214 00:18:50,295 --> 00:18:51,380  Who do you think?  215 00:18:51,421 --> 00:18:52,881  The Libyans!  216 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,149       We have thrillers,       we have  True Lies,  217 00:19:10,190 --> 00:19:11,358      we have  Executive Decision.     218 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,026  In some of these   Hollywood films,  219 00:19:13,068 --> 00:19:15,821  you see a white woman   stripped down,  220 00:19:15,863 --> 00:19:19,283  her clothes taken off, tied up,    221 00:19:19,324 --> 00:19:21,785  and she's being sold   at an auction block.  222 00:19:22,995 --> 00:19:25,539  You have a series of films     223 00:19:25,581 --> 00:19:27,082  called  The Delta Forces.      224 00:19:27,124 --> 00:19:29,042  American marines       killed many of my friends  225 00:19:29,042 --> 00:19:30,919  when they bombed Beirut.  226 00:19:30,919 --> 00:19:33,964       This also coincides      with the obsession  227 00:19:34,006 --> 00:19:37,259  around the alleged proliferation  228 00:19:37,301 --> 00:19:39,928    of Arab hijackings of planes,     229 00:19:39,970 --> 00:19:42,181  which happens decontextualized,    230 00:19:42,222 --> 00:19:46,935  with these absurd   cartoonish characters  231 00:19:46,977 --> 00:19:51,565  instilling fear      in white female stewardesses.    232 00:19:51,607 --> 00:19:54,026  We even have these benign films    233 00:19:54,067 --> 00:19:57,070  that have nothing to do   with Muslims or Arabs  234 00:19:57,112 --> 00:20:00,741     portray cartoonish characters.  235 00:20:00,782 --> 00:20:02,451  -What key?   -That key.  236 00:20:03,785 --> 00:20:05,579  Who's taken the key?  237 00:20:05,621 --> 00:20:06,872      The negative portrayal     of Muslims  238 00:20:06,914 --> 00:20:09,958  in Western countries      and how Muslims are treated,     239 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,460  it's "us against them."  240 00:20:11,501 --> 00:20:15,297  Muslims are unfortunately       viewed as a monolith  241 00:20:15,339 --> 00:20:16,798  by people   who may not understand,  242 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,093    and their only exposure might          be through shows like  24.  243 00:20:21,470 --> 00:20:23,430     Stories are at the center      244 00:20:23,472 --> 00:20:25,432  of social cohesion.  245 00:20:25,474 --> 00:20:27,059     We're gonna have to come up       with an alternative.  246 00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:29,603  This is alternative.  247 00:20:29,645 --> 00:20:31,438     Hollywood doesn't happen      248 00:20:31,438 --> 00:20:33,941     or create images in isolation.  249 00:20:33,982 --> 00:20:37,861  There is a triangle of politics,   pop culture, and public opinion    250 00:20:37,903 --> 00:20:39,446  that are at work.  251 00:20:39,488 --> 00:20:41,323  They have dynamic relationships.  252 00:20:41,365 --> 00:20:43,116  We better wake up   and smell the falafel.  253 00:20:45,077 --> 00:20:46,703        Islam is taking over       our country.  254 00:20:49,122 --> 00:20:50,582  No, ma'am. No, ma'am.  255 00:20:50,624 --> 00:20:52,084  He's a-- he's  --  256 00:20:52,125 --> 00:20:53,877  he's a decent, family man.     257 00:20:59,466 --> 00:21:01,385  You see,  258 00:21:01,385 --> 00:21:03,929  there's no shades of gray           in this war against terror.     259 00:21:03,971 --> 00:21:06,223  Either you're with   the United States  260 00:21:06,265 --> 00:21:08,350  or you're not with   the United States.  261 00:21:12,020 --> 00:21:15,732    When you decide   to destroy Iraq,  262 00:21:15,774 --> 00:21:20,028      for example, then you've got     to prime a population.  263 00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:23,490     If you look at the propaganda     following 9/11,  264 00:21:23,532 --> 00:21:25,284  there is two years  265 00:21:25,325 --> 00:21:27,327  of intense propaganda  266 00:21:27,369 --> 00:21:29,162  trying to convince people      267 00:21:29,204 --> 00:21:32,749  that 9/11 was connected   to Saddam Hussein.  268 00:21:32,791 --> 00:21:35,961  So that by the time   the Iraq invasion happens,     269 00:21:36,003 --> 00:21:39,756  you have something   like 83% of the population     270 00:21:39,798 --> 00:21:41,425  in support of the war.  271 00:21:43,468 --> 00:21:46,013  With horrible   disastrous results  272 00:21:46,054 --> 00:21:48,432      and a power vacuum created      273 00:21:48,473 --> 00:21:52,144     into which ISIS was thrust.      274 00:21:52,936 --> 00:21:56,982     If you look at the propaganda,      you pick on the most powerless  275 00:21:57,024 --> 00:21:58,066  people in the society  276 00:21:58,108 --> 00:22:00,027  and you turn them   into scapegoats.  277 00:22:00,068 --> 00:22:01,653  "These people   aren't really human.  278 00:22:01,653 --> 00:22:04,614  They don't love their kids      like we love them  279 00:22:04,656 --> 00:22:07,075  If you believe that,   then these are not real people.    280 00:22:07,075 --> 00:22:08,702  These are not   real human beings.  281 00:22:08,744 --> 00:22:10,996  And therefore,       you can do anything to them.    282 00:22:11,038 --> 00:22:14,041  ♪ dramatic music plays ♪  283 00:22:19,755 --> 00:22:23,175  The invisibilized dominant power  284 00:22:23,216 --> 00:22:24,718      is the American military.  285 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,054      It's the American empire,  286 00:22:27,095 --> 00:22:30,098    how it pervades and influences    287 00:22:30,140 --> 00:22:33,518  every part of his  288 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,896  and his community's   understanding  289 00:22:35,937 --> 00:22:39,191      of what is just and unjust.     290 00:23:19,481 --> 00:23:22,734    In 2006,   he was meant to tour  291 00:23:22,734 --> 00:23:25,779  with DMX in the US  292 00:23:25,779 --> 00:23:28,407  after touring with him   in Germany and Europe.  293 00:23:31,993 --> 00:23:34,788      So whoever the fuck gets on      this stage tonight,  294 00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:38,583  real dudes, we're doing   real fucking things, baby.     295 00:23:38,583 --> 00:23:43,088    Denis flew to LA   to perform there with him,     296 00:23:43,130 --> 00:23:45,715  but he wasn't allowed   to fly in.  297 00:23:45,757 --> 00:23:47,467  He thought they   didn't let him in  298 00:23:47,509 --> 00:23:50,345  because he had like      a kind of knockoff Adidas shoe  299 00:23:50,387 --> 00:23:52,264  with a plane flying in,  300 00:23:52,305 --> 00:23:54,307  that was supposed to   look like the Twin Towers.     301 00:23:54,349 --> 00:23:58,103  ♪ dramatic music plays ♪  302 00:24:26,339 --> 00:24:27,716         Denis kind of jumped around     303 00:24:27,757 --> 00:24:30,510     from subculture to subculture     in a way.  304 00:24:31,887 --> 00:24:35,974  He went from rap   to trying to be an MMA fighter.    305 00:24:36,016 --> 00:24:38,977  ♪ dramatic music plays ♪  306 00:24:39,019 --> 00:24:41,980  ♪♪♪  307 00:25:49,422 --> 00:25:52,676    Denis challenged   Ismail Cetinkaya.  308 00:25:52,717 --> 00:25:54,553  He sort of     very publicly challenged him.     309 00:26:42,017 --> 00:26:43,268    Fight!  310 00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:34,694    The main guy   in the German context  311 00:27:34,694 --> 00:27:36,446  who was recruiting Germans     312 00:27:36,488 --> 00:27:38,281    to join the Salafist movement,    313 00:27:38,323 --> 00:27:40,200    and many of them went to ISIS,    314 00:27:40,241 --> 00:27:42,243  was this guy   called Pierre Vogel,  315 00:27:42,285 --> 00:27:44,371  who's a white German guy,      316 00:27:44,412 --> 00:27:46,456  who was a boxing champion.     317 00:27:49,042 --> 00:27:51,419  I do think that   there was a correlation  318 00:27:51,461 --> 00:27:53,254  between Denis losing  319 00:27:53,296 --> 00:27:55,423  and being humiliated   in that fight,  320 00:27:55,465 --> 00:27:59,219     and then having this meeting      with Pierre Vogel,  321 00:27:59,260 --> 00:28:00,804      where he was given an out.      322 00:28:02,555 --> 00:28:04,849  There's a video of Pierre Vogel    323 00:28:04,849 --> 00:28:07,310     where he's sitting with Denis,  324 00:28:07,352 --> 00:28:12,023      and it's the video where he      convinces Denis to give up rap.    325 00:28:25,620 --> 00:28:29,207       Denis is very humble      and moved.  326 00:28:29,249 --> 00:28:32,210  ♪ dramatic music plays ♪  327 00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:36,047  ♪♪♪  328 00:29:07,245 --> 00:29:09,122    People thought   it was kind of ridiculous,     329 00:29:09,164 --> 00:29:11,499      but he was serious about it.    330 00:31:25,258 --> 00:31:28,219  ♪ dramatic music plays ♪  331 00:31:28,261 --> 00:31:30,763  ♪♪♪  332 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,810       Do you wanna just      introduce yourself?  333 00:31:35,852 --> 00:31:37,770  Mm-hm.      My name is Souad Mekhennet.      334 00:31:37,812 --> 00:31:39,606  I'm the international   security correspondent  335 00:31:39,647 --> 00:31:41,608  for the  Washington Post.  336 00:31:41,649 --> 00:31:42,984       For nearly 20 years,     337 00:31:43,026 --> 00:31:44,485  journalist Souad Mekhennet     338 00:31:44,527 --> 00:31:46,195  had-- has covered   some of the world's  339 00:31:46,237 --> 00:31:47,947  most dangerous conflicts.      340 00:31:47,989 --> 00:31:50,491  She's gained rare access   to the inner circles  341 00:31:50,533 --> 00:31:53,578      of groups like the Taliban,      Al-Qaeda, and ISIS.  342 00:31:53,620 --> 00:31:57,290  In 2015, she co-wrote   the blockbuster  Washington Post    343 00:31:57,332 --> 00:32:00,793  article that unmasked   ISIS killer Jihadi John  344 00:32:00,793 --> 00:32:03,630  as British citizen,   Mohammed Emwazi.  345 00:32:03,671 --> 00:32:05,423  Her latest book,   recounts some of her  346 00:32:05,465 --> 00:32:07,467  most dangerous   reporting assignments.  347 00:32:07,508 --> 00:32:09,636    The last book   I published is called  348 00:32:09,677 --> 00:32:11,137      I Was Told To Come Alone:  349 00:32:11,137 --> 00:32:12,764  My Journey Behind   the Lines of Jihad,  350 00:32:12,805 --> 00:32:15,850  where I also wrote   about Denis Cuspert.  351 00:32:16,768 --> 00:32:20,813  I met Denis Cuspert   before he joined ISIS.  352 00:32:20,855 --> 00:32:24,233  A young imam from Berlin     contacted me one day and said,    353 00:32:24,275 --> 00:32:26,152      "Souad, there is somebody  354 00:32:26,194 --> 00:32:28,029     who I think you should meet.     355 00:32:28,071 --> 00:32:30,031  He's someone   who comes to my mosque  356 00:32:30,073 --> 00:32:32,116  and I'm a bit   worried about him."  357 00:32:32,158 --> 00:32:33,660  I went to Berlin  358 00:32:33,701 --> 00:32:35,828  and I entered   the office of the imam,  359 00:32:35,870 --> 00:32:38,539  and there was this   young man sitting  360 00:32:38,581 --> 00:32:40,333  who then stood up       when I entered the office,      361 00:32:40,375 --> 00:32:44,796  which I found very interesting,     to show his respect.  362 00:32:44,837 --> 00:32:48,174      And we greeted each other   in Arabic  363 00:32:48,216 --> 00:32:50,176  with, you know,   As-salamu alaykum,  364 00:32:50,218 --> 00:32:52,887     and that was Denis Cuspert.      365 00:32:54,847 --> 00:32:57,141  We had a very long conversation    366 00:32:57,183 --> 00:32:59,644  where we spoke about   how he felt as a child  367 00:32:59,686 --> 00:33:01,145  growing up with, you know,     368 00:33:01,187 --> 00:33:03,940  a lot of discrimination   and racism.  369 00:33:05,233 --> 00:33:06,734  I could relate to that   a little bit  370 00:33:06,776 --> 00:33:08,861  because I grew up   in Germany as well  371 00:33:08,903 --> 00:33:12,156  as the child      of so-called guest workers.      372 00:33:14,283 --> 00:33:17,745  He was looking for   an identity like,  373 00:33:17,787 --> 00:33:21,332     "Who am I? Where do I belong?     Where's my home?"  374 00:33:21,374 --> 00:33:24,419    He felt like somebody who was          really looking for a path,      375 00:33:24,460 --> 00:33:27,171     but he was also looking for      376 00:33:27,171 --> 00:33:29,966  being able to talk to somebody.    377 00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:31,968      Now, you have to understand,    378 00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:33,886  in Germany or in Europe,      379 00:33:33,886 --> 00:33:37,432      very often when young men     want to discuss these things,     380 00:33:37,473 --> 00:33:40,893  imams feel a bit--   they're very careful  381 00:33:40,935 --> 00:33:43,646  about having   such political debates  382 00:33:43,688 --> 00:33:46,441  in their mosques   because they are afraid  383 00:33:46,482 --> 00:33:47,900  that the intelligence   services would say,  384 00:33:47,942 --> 00:33:49,444  "Wait a second,   you're allowing these--  385 00:33:49,485 --> 00:33:51,112  this is extremism.  386 00:33:51,154 --> 00:33:53,031  You're allowing people   to talk-- discuss this  387 00:33:53,072 --> 00:33:55,575  and to have       anti-Western views there."      388 00:33:55,616 --> 00:33:59,245  This is where   recruiters understand  389 00:33:59,245 --> 00:34:03,291      they can actually step in   and recruit somebody.  390 00:34:03,291 --> 00:34:06,586  When I met Cuspert in--   Cuspert in--  391 00:34:06,627 --> 00:34:09,297  at the mosque in Berlin,  392 00:34:09,338 --> 00:34:12,425  he was still somebody   where I felt  393 00:34:12,467 --> 00:34:15,261    there could have been a chance     to not lose him  394 00:34:15,303 --> 00:34:17,180     into the hands of extremism,     395 00:34:17,221 --> 00:34:18,848      but there was no one there      396 00:34:18,890 --> 00:34:20,475  who would have     these conversations with him.     397 00:34:42,872 --> 00:34:44,290      A gunman fired shots  398 00:34:44,332 --> 00:34:46,417  at US military personnel       on a bus  399 00:34:46,459 --> 00:34:49,170  outside Frankfurt Airport,      Wednesday.  400 00:34:49,212 --> 00:34:53,174     Two Air Force airmen are dead     and two more wounded.  401 00:34:53,216 --> 00:34:56,886       I'm saddened       and I'm outraged by this attack    402 00:34:56,886 --> 00:34:58,304  that took the lives   of two Americans.  403 00:34:58,346 --> 00:34:59,472     I want everybody to understand  404 00:34:59,514 --> 00:35:01,224     that we will spare no effort     405 00:35:01,265 --> 00:35:04,227  in learning how   this outrageous act took place.    406 00:35:04,268 --> 00:35:05,895  And in working   with German authorities  407 00:35:05,895 --> 00:35:08,231  to ensure that   all of the perpetrators  408 00:35:08,272 --> 00:35:09,857  are brought to justice.  409 00:35:09,899 --> 00:35:11,150         US and German officials say     410 00:35:11,192 --> 00:35:12,318      they have a better idea now     411 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,861  who the suspected gunman      412 00:35:13,903 --> 00:35:15,363  Arid Uka might be.  413 00:35:15,404 --> 00:35:17,698  He apparently was       a prolific Facebook poster.     414 00:35:17,740 --> 00:35:19,992  He visited a lot   of Jihadi websites.  415 00:35:20,034 --> 00:35:22,495     When asked about the shooting     of the airmen, he said, simply,    416 00:35:22,537 --> 00:35:24,330  "They're at war with us."      417 00:35:24,330 --> 00:35:25,790     Which tells us something about  418 00:35:25,832 --> 00:35:27,625  his mindset   and possible motive.  419 00:35:28,751 --> 00:35:31,587       I learned that there          was an attack in Frankfurt.     420 00:35:31,629 --> 00:35:35,466      I went to see Arid's family      after the attack happened.     421 00:35:35,508 --> 00:35:37,260  I asked them   if they would speak to me,     422 00:35:37,301 --> 00:35:39,178      and they said he was a quiet    423 00:35:39,220 --> 00:35:41,514  but sometimes also   very depressed young man      424 00:35:41,514 --> 00:35:42,932  who had also issues  425 00:35:42,974 --> 00:35:44,517  trying to find his way   in the world.  426 00:35:45,685 --> 00:35:47,186  His brother told me,  427 00:35:47,228 --> 00:35:49,814  Arid told him that he was       following on Facebook  428 00:35:49,856 --> 00:35:52,900     somebody who posted a video.     429 00:35:52,942 --> 00:35:55,570  The video showed an Iraqi woman    430 00:35:55,611 --> 00:35:58,197  was raped by US soldiers.      431 00:35:58,197 --> 00:36:00,366    We're searching for evidence.     432 00:36:00,408 --> 00:36:01,951  We're looking for, what?  433 00:36:01,993 --> 00:36:03,452     Weapons of mass destruction.     434 00:36:03,452 --> 00:36:04,912  You ready? Here you go.  435 00:36:04,954 --> 00:36:06,539  Here you go. Come here, Salazar.  436 00:36:06,539 --> 00:36:08,457  Come here.   Take her fucking hand.  437 00:36:10,877 --> 00:36:13,212    And a message      from the person who posted it,  438 00:36:13,254 --> 00:36:16,007      "We need to defend the honor     of our sisters."  439 00:36:16,048 --> 00:36:16,924  And I asked him,  440 00:36:16,966 --> 00:36:18,509  "Do you remember   who posted the video?  441 00:36:18,551 --> 00:36:20,428  Like, who was the person           your brother was following?"    442 00:36:20,469 --> 00:36:22,972  He said,   "I think it was somebody,      443 00:36:23,014 --> 00:36:25,766  something like Dogg,   Deso, Deso."  444 00:36:25,766 --> 00:36:26,976  And I said, "Deso Dogg?  445 00:36:26,976 --> 00:36:28,644     You mean the former rapper?"     446 00:36:28,644 --> 00:36:30,980  And he said, "Yes, yes.   He was a former rapper."  447 00:36:30,980 --> 00:36:33,024     And I was actually in shock.     448 00:36:34,525 --> 00:36:37,695  We see here   is a video he posted.  449 00:36:37,737 --> 00:36:39,822     This young man, followed him,     watched the video,  450 00:36:39,864 --> 00:36:43,159  and was emotionally   so upset about this,  451 00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:44,577  thinking it was reality.  452 00:36:44,577 --> 00:36:46,120     We know now today it wasn't.     453 00:37:11,646 --> 00:37:14,857        I spoke to Cuspert       about it later.  454 00:37:14,899 --> 00:37:18,194  I said, "Did you know that      the video was not reality,     455 00:37:18,236 --> 00:37:20,738  that it was actually   from a movie?"  456 00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:22,365  And he didn't know that,      457 00:37:22,365 --> 00:37:24,450  but he actually felt  458 00:37:24,492 --> 00:37:27,119  that what Arid Uka did   was right.  459 00:37:27,161 --> 00:37:29,622  And he congratulated   "the brother"  460 00:37:29,664 --> 00:37:31,540      as he called him and said,      461 00:37:31,582 --> 00:37:33,668     "Because you know, those--"          he said, "Those servicemen,      462 00:37:33,709 --> 00:37:35,753     they were on their way to--       you know,  463 00:37:35,795 --> 00:37:37,797  they were killing--   they would have killed Muslims,    464 00:37:37,838 --> 00:37:40,424     so they were not innocent."      465 00:37:40,424 --> 00:37:42,927  When the thing   with the video happened,  466 00:37:42,969 --> 00:37:44,303  I understood, "Okay.  467 00:37:44,345 --> 00:37:47,014  He actually crossed that bridge    468 00:37:47,056 --> 00:37:48,933  into the extremism."  469 00:37:57,692 --> 00:37:59,151         My name is Kevin Gallagher.     470 00:37:59,151 --> 00:38:01,028  I'm a special agent   with the FBI's  471 00:38:01,070 --> 00:38:02,530  Washington Field Office.      472 00:38:02,571 --> 00:38:03,698  My particular squad  473 00:38:03,739 --> 00:38:05,825  focused primarily on   what we refer to  474 00:38:05,866 --> 00:38:07,326  as terrorist   use of the internet,  475 00:38:07,326 --> 00:38:10,162  which heavily relies   on investigations  476 00:38:10,162 --> 00:38:12,206  into terrorist   media organizations  477 00:38:12,248 --> 00:38:13,791  and their radicalization   and recruitment  478 00:38:13,833 --> 00:38:15,251  of people in the United States.    479 00:38:16,294 --> 00:38:18,129  Denis Cuspert was an individual    480 00:38:18,129 --> 00:38:20,506  who I was aware of   probably in about 2011,  481 00:38:20,548 --> 00:38:22,508  2012 timeframe.  482 00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:23,801  Yes, he was a terrorist,      483 00:38:23,843 --> 00:38:25,636  but he was also   a cult of personality.  484 00:38:25,678 --> 00:38:27,680  This is an individual   who's had contact  485 00:38:27,722 --> 00:38:29,015  with, you know,   American rappers.  486 00:38:29,056 --> 00:38:30,683  The types of rappers      that I grew up in high school    487 00:38:30,725 --> 00:38:32,560  and college listening to.      488 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,854     The FBI is interested in--     489 00:38:34,854 --> 00:38:36,897     what are his communications      490 00:38:36,897 --> 00:38:38,691  with people   in the United States?  491 00:38:38,691 --> 00:38:41,694     Does he have followers here      492 00:38:41,694 --> 00:38:43,779  who might have   a sleeper cell here?  493 00:38:59,211 --> 00:39:01,380    At the FBI,   we broke up the world  494 00:39:01,422 --> 00:39:04,425  into various areas   of responsibility.  495 00:39:04,467 --> 00:39:08,179  The German language   radicalization movement  496 00:39:08,220 --> 00:39:09,722      was one of those efforts,  497 00:39:09,764 --> 00:39:12,350  and that is why   the Detroit Field Office  498 00:39:12,391 --> 00:39:15,186  had the investigation   of Denis Cuspert.  499 00:39:21,317 --> 00:39:24,111      Daniela Greene was assigned          to the Detroit Field office     500 00:39:24,153 --> 00:39:26,530  as a contract linguist.  501 00:39:26,530 --> 00:39:30,826  Her job was to accurately       translate information  502 00:39:30,868 --> 00:39:33,287  as it was recovered   related to communications      503 00:39:33,287 --> 00:39:34,538     that Denis Cuspert was having,  504 00:39:34,580 --> 00:39:35,956  not only with people   in the United States,  505 00:39:35,998 --> 00:39:37,958  but all across the world.      506 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,711  In the FBI,       our translators' perspective    507 00:39:40,711 --> 00:39:42,838  and their professional opinions     is highly important  508 00:39:42,838 --> 00:39:44,131  to the investigative team.     509 00:39:44,173 --> 00:39:47,259  So she was part       of that investigative team,     510 00:39:47,301 --> 00:39:49,637  and her information   and her input was vital  511 00:39:49,678 --> 00:39:52,223  to tracking Denis Cuspert.     512 00:39:52,223 --> 00:39:54,934    Tracking is just   following their online chatter,    513 00:39:54,975 --> 00:39:56,602  looking at their   propaganda releases  514 00:39:56,644 --> 00:39:58,229  in various online spaces,      515 00:39:58,270 --> 00:39:59,605  and also just observing,      516 00:39:59,647 --> 00:40:01,649  kind of just being   like a fly on the wall.  517 00:40:01,649 --> 00:40:04,402      She was assigned to the case     involving Deso Dogg.  518 00:40:04,443 --> 00:40:06,987  Her goal was to lure him       out of Syria into Turkey      519 00:40:07,029 --> 00:40:08,823  so he would be   subject to arrest.  520 00:40:08,864 --> 00:40:11,200      But I have seen situations       in ISIS chat rooms  521 00:40:11,242 --> 00:40:13,702  where individuals seem       to begin to very strongly  522 00:40:13,702 --> 00:40:15,579  emotionally bond   with one another.  523 00:40:15,621 --> 00:40:17,706  And it does recall   more normal circumstances      524 00:40:17,706 --> 00:40:18,916  like online dating.  525 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,545  I have seen that type   of relationship  526 00:40:22,586 --> 00:40:24,255  resulting in people   being willing  527 00:40:24,296 --> 00:40:26,507  to make really bad,   awful decisions  528 00:40:26,549 --> 00:40:30,136  because of the social bond      that they create online.      529 00:40:40,020 --> 00:40:41,772         I've seen the tabloids that     530 00:40:41,814 --> 00:40:44,316  lend to Daniela Greene   being a honeypot.  531 00:40:44,358 --> 00:40:46,444  That couldn't be   further from the truth.  532 00:40:48,028 --> 00:40:51,240      To say that Daniela      was not a traditional  533 00:40:51,282 --> 00:40:54,076  honeypot operation   is very true.  534 00:40:55,202 --> 00:40:57,371  But the reality is,  535 00:40:57,413 --> 00:40:59,999    I think it was very deliberate    536 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,209  to use Daniela  537 00:41:02,251 --> 00:41:04,378  to communicate   with Denis Cuspert.  538 00:41:04,420 --> 00:41:07,089  When people are running   intelligence operations,  539 00:41:07,089 --> 00:41:08,674    they're always thinking about     540 00:41:08,716 --> 00:41:10,676  what is gonna be   the best tactic.  541 00:41:10,718 --> 00:41:14,346  And I think that   in this particular case,  542 00:41:14,346 --> 00:41:17,349  they recognized   that maybe Denis Cuspert  543 00:41:17,391 --> 00:41:19,560      had a weakness for women.  544 00:41:19,602 --> 00:41:22,521  ♪ upbeat music plays ♪  545 00:41:22,563 --> 00:41:26,275  ♪♪♪  546 00:41:26,317 --> 00:41:28,360        He's likely to respond to her    547 00:41:28,402 --> 00:41:30,362  and wanna chat with her,       and Skype with her,  548 00:41:30,404 --> 00:41:32,990      and maybe send her pictures      and tell her secrets.  549 00:41:33,032 --> 00:41:35,367  He's not gonna do that   with a dude.  550 00:41:35,409 --> 00:41:36,785  It's just human nature.  551 00:41:38,412 --> 00:41:40,748  Everybody conducts   honeypot operations.  552 00:41:40,789 --> 00:41:43,250  The FBI, the CIA,  553 00:41:43,292 --> 00:41:45,753  the Russian Intelligence   Services, the Mossad.  554 00:41:45,753 --> 00:41:48,547  Now, I should be clear       about that, because the--  555 00:41:48,589 --> 00:41:51,926    often, there's confusion about       what a honeypot operation is.     556 00:41:53,260 --> 00:41:55,888      A honeypot operation is one     557 00:41:55,930 --> 00:41:59,308  where typically a woman  558 00:41:59,350 --> 00:42:01,477  targets a man,  559 00:42:02,770 --> 00:42:06,899  plays upon   his male vulnerabilities,      560 00:42:06,899 --> 00:42:08,692     flirts with him, seduces him.    561 00:42:08,734 --> 00:42:10,069   ♪  With nothing   but a piece of rope  ♪  562 00:42:10,110 --> 00:42:13,113    And gets him   to tell her secrets.  563 00:42:13,155 --> 00:42:16,825     ♪  Dreaming every night of you  ♪    564 00:42:16,867 --> 00:42:19,787        As an operative,       it was easy for me  565 00:42:19,828 --> 00:42:22,540  to go up and talk   to a foreign man  566 00:42:22,581 --> 00:42:24,708  and to express interest.      567 00:42:26,418 --> 00:42:29,922  It is strictly forbidden          for CIA officers or FBI agents  568 00:42:29,964 --> 00:42:33,050     to have romantic relationships   with their targets.  569 00:42:33,092 --> 00:42:35,010  But that does happen.  570 00:42:35,052 --> 00:42:36,428  It's happened   throughout history.  571 00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:38,180  This was not   the first time it happened     572 00:42:38,222 --> 00:42:39,974  and it certainly   won't be the last.  573 00:42:44,895 --> 00:42:49,108  But we have       to keep in mind that Daniela    574 00:42:49,149 --> 00:42:52,903  was not a trained   CIA operative,  575 00:42:52,945 --> 00:42:54,613  not a trained recruiter,      576 00:42:54,655 --> 00:42:56,824  nor was she   a trained FBI agent.  577 00:42:56,865 --> 00:43:00,953  She was really      conscripted as a translator.     578 00:43:00,995 --> 00:43:02,496  This is an FBI   contract employee  579 00:43:02,496 --> 00:43:04,123  with a top secret   security clearance.  580 00:43:04,123 --> 00:43:06,834  There's a lot of trust   that the government puts  581 00:43:06,834 --> 00:43:08,544     in the people that it hires.     582 00:43:08,586 --> 00:43:10,879  These individuals   are granted access  583 00:43:10,921 --> 00:43:14,800      to some of the United States        government's biggest secrets.    584 00:43:14,842 --> 00:43:18,178  What is always the risk   in that case  585 00:43:18,220 --> 00:43:21,056     is that there's going to be       some real romance  586 00:43:21,098 --> 00:43:22,558  that emerges from that.  587 00:43:22,558 --> 00:43:25,644      So the investigative team  588 00:43:25,686 --> 00:43:27,646  was aware of two Skype accounts    589 00:43:27,688 --> 00:43:31,108  that were being utilized   by Denis Cuspert  590 00:43:31,150 --> 00:43:33,944  to communicate   with his associates.  591 00:43:33,986 --> 00:43:37,740  Daniela Greene     created a third Skype account     592 00:43:37,781 --> 00:43:40,951     and had direct communication      with Denis Cuspert  593 00:43:40,993 --> 00:43:42,494  that was unknown       to the investigative team  594 00:43:42,536 --> 00:43:43,996  and that's where   she went off the rails.  595 00:43:44,038 --> 00:43:45,205  It's probably...  596 00:43:48,042 --> 00:43:50,294  the most concerning part   of that case  597 00:43:50,336 --> 00:43:54,757    is how do we defend ourselves      from our own?  598 00:44:07,269 --> 00:44:09,188    You know, other aspects       to think about in this case,    599 00:44:09,229 --> 00:44:11,190  her marriage   to her first husband  600 00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:13,317     who was a US military officer.  601 00:44:15,736 --> 00:44:18,322  How does someone   go from an FBI linguist,      602 00:44:18,364 --> 00:44:20,866  to a military wife,  603 00:44:20,908 --> 00:44:22,951  to joining a foreign   terrorist organization?  604 00:44:22,993 --> 00:44:24,662  That's a hell       of a radicalization path.  605 00:44:31,752 --> 00:44:33,504       I first met Daniela       when she was a student  606 00:44:33,545 --> 00:44:36,090  here at Cameron   in Lawton, Oklahoma.  607 00:44:38,258 --> 00:44:41,679     She was extremely intelligent,   a hard-worker,  608 00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:44,890  and kinda quiet   and very attractive,  609 00:44:44,932 --> 00:44:46,767  which I normally   wouldn't mention,  610 00:44:46,809 --> 00:44:48,977  but I think, you know,   she seemed out of  --  611 00:44:48,977 --> 00:44:51,063  this guy   that she hooked up with,      612 00:44:51,105 --> 00:44:53,315     she was way out of his league.  613 00:44:54,274 --> 00:44:56,819      I'm an Air Force wife.    614 00:44:56,819 --> 00:44:59,196        And Daniela was an army wife.    615 00:45:00,489 --> 00:45:03,659  She is married       to my brother-in-law, Matt.     616 00:45:05,577 --> 00:45:08,414  Being married      to a military man, in my view,  617 00:45:08,455 --> 00:45:10,416  that's like an honor,   you know?  618 00:45:10,457 --> 00:45:13,252  Matthew got married   to Daniela,  619 00:45:14,253 --> 00:45:16,839  who was from Germany,      because Matthew was stationed    620 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,968  over in Germany,   in the army at the time.      621 00:45:21,009 --> 00:45:24,221        Got this American      soldier stationed in Germany,    622 00:45:24,263 --> 00:45:28,350  meets a German girl,       and I hope it was true love,    623 00:45:28,392 --> 00:45:31,395  but he must've been   her ticket out of Germany.     624 00:45:31,437 --> 00:45:33,772  And I don't mean to be       critical or negative of him.    625 00:45:33,814 --> 00:45:35,441  That was just   an impression I had.  626 00:45:37,693 --> 00:45:39,778  She's young   but she's already married.     627 00:45:39,820 --> 00:45:41,447      She's not from around here.     628 00:45:41,488 --> 00:45:43,449  So she gets here   not knowing anyone.  629 00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:47,119    I'm sure   it was still hard on her,      630 00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:49,288      for her to leave her family.    631 00:45:49,288 --> 00:45:52,291  The military life   for the wife, you know,  632 00:45:52,332 --> 00:45:54,001      it's not an easy lifestyle.     633 00:45:54,042 --> 00:45:56,462      Not everybody can handle it.    634 00:45:57,713 --> 00:46:00,132        I met Matt when she graduated.  635 00:46:00,174 --> 00:46:01,842  It didn't seem   like a happy couple.  636 00:46:03,886 --> 00:46:05,387  There was kind of   a sadness about her.  637 00:46:05,429 --> 00:46:07,848      She just didn't seem happy.     638 00:46:09,516 --> 00:46:11,643      We didn't know what happened     to her after that.  639 00:46:11,643 --> 00:46:13,812  And, of course,   we found out later  640 00:46:13,854 --> 00:46:16,148     she'd gotten hired by the FBI.  641 00:46:16,190 --> 00:46:18,317  I don't think they cared       about her master's degree.     642 00:46:18,358 --> 00:46:20,319  They liked the fact      that she was fluent in German.  643 00:46:23,405 --> 00:46:26,784       They had her talking      to this recruiter of ISIS.     644 00:46:26,825 --> 00:46:30,287      And with her talking to him,         I think she may have started    645 00:46:30,329 --> 00:46:31,705  getting feelings for him.      646 00:46:31,747 --> 00:46:34,249  Because that happens   to people, you know?  647 00:46:34,291 --> 00:46:35,751  When you talk   to people online,  648 00:46:35,793 --> 00:46:37,461  you hear about it   all the time.  649 00:46:37,503 --> 00:46:39,171  I don't know   if she's having problems      650 00:46:39,213 --> 00:46:41,173  with my brother-in-law,  651 00:46:41,215 --> 00:46:43,550  but I think just with her       talking to him,  652 00:46:43,550 --> 00:46:46,053  she may have seen him   in a different light  653 00:46:46,094 --> 00:46:48,138  than what we see him.  654 00:46:50,682 --> 00:46:55,187      I would never have imagined         her doing something like this.  655 00:46:57,231 --> 00:46:59,483  I think she's a traitor   to our country.  656 00:47:17,793 --> 00:47:20,629    After the terror attack     in Frankfurt,  657 00:47:20,671 --> 00:47:22,548  Denis took part   in a demonstration  658 00:47:22,548 --> 00:47:25,676      against the Danish cartoons.    659 00:47:26,260 --> 00:47:28,679  Demonstrations that got violent.  660 00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:31,181  And a policeman   was stabbed there.  661 00:47:32,975 --> 00:47:35,769      But it's a very well-filmed     662 00:47:35,811 --> 00:47:39,022  and well-produced video.      663 00:47:39,064 --> 00:47:41,733  And Denis is sort   of like the star of it.  664 00:47:51,910 --> 00:47:54,037    That was the last thing     that happened.  665 00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:55,539  And because a policeman   was injured,  666 00:47:55,581 --> 00:47:58,000  he disappeared then.  667 00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,877     One of the interesting aspects  668 00:47:59,918 --> 00:48:04,756      of the German state's role       in ISIS  669 00:48:05,173 --> 00:48:08,927     is that German intelligence          encouraged German Salafists      670 00:48:08,969 --> 00:48:10,762     to go to Syria for a while.      671 00:48:10,804 --> 00:48:13,265  They encouraged   and they facilitated it.  672 00:48:14,474 --> 00:48:15,893  So they encouraged people       to leave,  673 00:48:15,934 --> 00:48:18,604     sort of to export the problem     of these people  674 00:48:18,645 --> 00:48:19,938      like, "Oh, they're gone now.    675 00:48:19,980 --> 00:48:21,773  Let them terrorize people       somewhere else."  676 00:48:23,108 --> 00:48:26,486  And he, in fact,   resurfaced in Syria.  677 00:48:26,528 --> 00:48:30,490  Which was, I think,   surprised a lot of people      678 00:48:30,532 --> 00:48:33,994  because he'd always   basically been in Berlin.      679 00:48:34,036 --> 00:48:36,455      He was this boy from Berlin,     this guy from Berlin  680 00:48:36,496 --> 00:48:38,248  who we've all known about      681 00:48:38,290 --> 00:48:40,250     through these various episodes   of his life.  682 00:48:48,926 --> 00:48:50,469       When he joined ISIS,     683 00:48:50,510 --> 00:48:52,262  they wanted you   to do something.  684 00:48:52,304 --> 00:48:54,222  You could either   be a soldier  685 00:48:54,264 --> 00:48:58,018  or you became a member   of the propaganda team.  686 00:48:58,060 --> 00:49:01,355  He became a member   of the propaganda team.  687 00:49:01,355 --> 00:49:04,608        Denis Cuspert   becomes one of the most  688 00:49:04,650 --> 00:49:08,654      prominent ISIS influencers.     689 00:49:08,695 --> 00:49:10,656  But something   happened over time.  690 00:49:10,697 --> 00:49:12,366  The propagandists of ISIS      691 00:49:12,407 --> 00:49:14,701  were deeply   influenced by Hollywood.  692 00:49:16,954 --> 00:49:19,206  Isis had been producing   these videos  693 00:49:19,247 --> 00:49:20,457  terrifying people.  694 00:49:24,586 --> 00:49:28,256  Their videos      got more and more extravagant,  695 00:49:28,298 --> 00:49:30,592  better production values.      696 00:49:30,634 --> 00:49:33,261  You see a kind   of cinematic creativity.      697 00:49:38,976 --> 00:49:42,020    What ISIS did      was a totally different level.  698 00:49:42,062 --> 00:49:44,898     I mean, ISIS created videos      699 00:49:44,898 --> 00:49:46,608  that really looked like  700 00:49:46,650 --> 00:49:48,652  professionally-made   Hollywood movies.  701 00:49:57,119 --> 00:50:00,038       ISIS has released      a new propaganda video.  702 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,874       This new and very      glossy recruitment video      703 00:50:02,916 --> 00:50:04,626  which looks   professionally shot  704 00:50:04,668 --> 00:50:07,379  and edited as though ISIS       were taking cues  705 00:50:07,421 --> 00:50:10,173  from Hollywood films   such as  Zero Dark Thirty      706 00:50:10,215 --> 00:50:13,343  and  The Hurt Locker   to maximize the terror.  707 00:50:13,385 --> 00:50:17,055      ISIS' media production     facilities  708 00:50:17,097 --> 00:50:19,057  take a direct cue       from what has been going on     709 00:50:19,057 --> 00:50:20,600  in the United States   for a long time.  710 00:50:20,642 --> 00:50:22,060  They've watched   all the war movies.  711 00:50:22,060 --> 00:50:23,687  They view the military   entertainment complex  712 00:50:23,687 --> 00:50:26,732  as kind of the tail end   or the final maturation  713 00:50:26,773 --> 00:50:29,943  of what scholars call      "the mediatization of war."      714 00:50:31,236 --> 00:50:34,948        The US government   is into our media sphere      715 00:50:34,990 --> 00:50:36,283  in every possible way.  716 00:50:36,324 --> 00:50:38,785  The DOD, in 1949, set up      717 00:50:38,827 --> 00:50:41,580  the Entertainment Media   Production Office.  718 00:50:41,621 --> 00:50:44,249    And if you wanna make a movie      that involves military equipment  719 00:50:44,249 --> 00:50:46,293      or personnel, there's only       one place to get it.  720 00:50:47,169 --> 00:50:49,588       You have to hand in       your script.  721 00:50:49,629 --> 00:50:51,381  Have them look it over.   Review it.  722 00:50:51,423 --> 00:50:55,510  And the Pentagon responds           with script change requests.    723 00:50:55,927 --> 00:50:58,680  You make those changes   and you get  724 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,558    a sort of clean bill of health     from the military  725 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,310  and you get access   to the stuff.  726 00:51:03,351 --> 00:51:05,520  And that's the core   of this relationship.  727 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,898  But, you know,      this is sort of industry-wide.  728 00:51:08,315 --> 00:51:10,192  Really,       when we started digging in,     729 00:51:10,233 --> 00:51:12,819  we had to make official     requests to the US government.    730 00:51:12,861 --> 00:51:15,489  You do this through   the Freedom of Information Act.    731 00:51:15,530 --> 00:51:17,574  And so we started      doing this by the hundreds.      732 00:51:17,616 --> 00:51:20,243  It's happened,   by our account,  733 00:51:20,285 --> 00:51:23,205  2,500 to 3,000 times   that we can confirm.  734 00:51:23,246 --> 00:51:25,624  My expectation was it's      gonna be a bunch of war films.  735 00:51:25,665 --> 00:51:28,043  And it's not. Maybe 10%.      736 00:51:28,085 --> 00:51:29,669  Pitch Perfect 3,  737 00:51:29,669 --> 00:51:31,755  the military   gave them access to bases      738 00:51:31,797 --> 00:51:33,465  and access to troops  739 00:51:33,507 --> 00:51:35,133  and pretty much gave them       the whole set.  740 00:51:35,133 --> 00:51:37,636     The military went into sci-fi.  741 00:51:37,677 --> 00:51:41,681  So you see a lot   of  Transformers  and  Iron Man.      742 00:51:41,723 --> 00:51:43,767  There are, you know,      some hardcore representations    743 00:51:43,809 --> 00:51:47,437  in  Iron Man   of Afghani terrorists  744 00:51:47,479 --> 00:51:48,939     who are antagonizing  Iron Man    745 00:51:48,980 --> 00:51:50,857  and killing children   and things like that,  746 00:51:50,857 --> 00:51:53,944  that are,   you know, DOD-sponsored.      747 00:51:53,985 --> 00:51:56,279  Iron Man  and  Transformers           become this way of talking      748 00:51:56,321 --> 00:51:58,865  about the war, but not   really being a war movie.      749 00:51:58,907 --> 00:51:59,950  My turn.  750 00:52:02,744 --> 00:52:04,871        There's an entire   apparatus at work.  751 00:52:04,913 --> 00:52:07,499  Not just one individual   pulling the strings,  752 00:52:07,541 --> 00:52:11,795  an interaction between two      large institutions.  753 00:52:11,795 --> 00:52:13,171  You know,      Hollywood's driven by money      754 00:52:13,171 --> 00:52:14,673  and they want   the biggest bang for their buck,  755 00:52:14,714 --> 00:52:16,842  and obviously, they're gonna go     for this relationship.  756 00:52:16,842 --> 00:52:19,469    And the US government is in it    757 00:52:19,511 --> 00:52:22,514  to fill the recruitment quotas.    758 00:52:23,306 --> 00:52:25,851  The military   entertainment complex  759 00:52:25,892 --> 00:52:28,812  is going to wanna   maximize recruitment.  760 00:52:28,854 --> 00:52:30,188    Top Gun  is a good place to go     761 00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:31,982  if you wanna talk   about recruitment.  762 00:52:32,023 --> 00:52:33,984  Top Gun  completely   turned the set of images      763 00:52:34,025 --> 00:52:35,944  about what the military is      on its head.  764 00:52:36,403 --> 00:52:38,530  You know, it's not wading       through the jungle muck  765 00:52:38,572 --> 00:52:39,906     and watching your friend die.    766 00:52:39,948 --> 00:52:41,575  It's about being encased      767 00:52:41,575 --> 00:52:43,410  in this high-tech   tube of steel  768 00:52:43,451 --> 00:52:45,203  and rocketing   through the atmosphere  769 00:52:45,203 --> 00:52:47,164     and high-fiving your friends.    770 00:52:48,623 --> 00:52:53,086  And ISIS' very powerful       and high-production value...    771 00:52:54,462 --> 00:52:56,256  image making factory,  772 00:52:56,298 --> 00:52:58,049  they very well understand that,     you know,  773 00:52:58,091 --> 00:53:00,886  this empire over here     is doing that very, very well.    774 00:53:00,927 --> 00:53:02,888  Our little empire   might try to, you know,  775 00:53:02,929 --> 00:53:05,348  take a cue from them   and try it as well.  776 00:53:05,390 --> 00:53:09,060  ISIS' military equipment,       it's not F-22s,  777 00:53:09,102 --> 00:53:12,105  it's little white pickups       with a bunch of AK-47s.  778 00:53:12,147 --> 00:53:13,565  But they've got stuff.  779 00:53:13,607 --> 00:53:15,859  They're using   established genres,  780 00:53:15,901 --> 00:53:18,153  they're using   established storylines.  781 00:53:18,195 --> 00:53:20,739    Even though       they were against the West,     782 00:53:20,780 --> 00:53:22,490  they were, in many ways,      783 00:53:22,532 --> 00:53:26,953    deeply influenced by the West.    784 00:53:26,953 --> 00:53:29,915  So you'll see      an ISIS video, if you look at,  785 00:53:29,956 --> 00:53:31,791  like, there's a bunch of horses,  786 00:53:31,791 --> 00:53:35,003      and you slow the video down      and you broaden up,  787 00:53:35,045 --> 00:53:38,089  and you see that they're       the Riders of Rohan  788 00:53:38,131 --> 00:53:39,549  from  Lord of the Rings.  789 00:53:41,051 --> 00:53:43,470  Almost you can say   that they were fans.  790 00:53:45,764 --> 00:53:49,017  You can say       they're wannabe Tarantinos,     791 00:53:49,059 --> 00:53:51,603  taking this all in,  792 00:53:51,645 --> 00:53:53,605      having it influence them,  793 00:53:53,605 --> 00:53:55,190  and then wanting   to put it back  794 00:53:55,232 --> 00:53:57,567  in their own variation  795 00:53:57,609 --> 00:53:59,945  of what they were taking       from the West.  796 00:53:59,986 --> 00:54:03,615      But obviously, doing things      that Hollywood can't do,      797 00:54:03,657 --> 00:54:06,034  which is actually   killing people on-screen.      798 00:54:13,667 --> 00:54:15,794    I spoke to one   of the people who--  799 00:54:15,835 --> 00:54:17,629  he was responsible   for ISIS' media.  800 00:54:17,671 --> 00:54:20,090  He said sometimes,   when they were planning  801 00:54:20,131 --> 00:54:22,759  a beheading, and I'm sorry          I have to speak about this,     802 00:54:22,801 --> 00:54:24,135  but I mean, it was unbelievable    803 00:54:24,177 --> 00:54:27,389  that even when they had planned     a beheading,  804 00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:29,766  they would bring in   the camera team.  805 00:54:29,808 --> 00:54:32,852  And the camera team,   while this person was kneeling,    806 00:54:32,894 --> 00:54:36,481     while this man was kneeling       in front of the person  807 00:54:36,481 --> 00:54:39,526  who was supposed to behead him,         they would tell this guy,  808 00:54:39,567 --> 00:54:41,361  "Okay. You have to hold   the knife this way.  809 00:54:41,403 --> 00:54:44,239  You have to, you know,   wait, turn this way  810 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,283      because the sun is better,       the lighting is there."  811 00:55:01,047 --> 00:55:03,633      ISIS propaganda films      evolved to a place  812 00:55:03,675 --> 00:55:06,553  where they had a story   and a plot.  813 00:55:10,432 --> 00:55:12,517  In some films,   they would force their captives    814 00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:16,855  to be actors. They would       perform reenactments.  815 00:55:23,403 --> 00:55:25,405  And the prisoners would   play themselves  816 00:55:25,447 --> 00:55:28,325      right up to their execution.    817 00:55:39,377 --> 00:55:41,713     ISIS realized that  818 00:55:41,755 --> 00:55:44,424  "media is more than   half the battle."  819 00:55:44,466 --> 00:55:47,052  You have   these incredible videos  820 00:55:47,093 --> 00:55:51,139  released before   the fall of Mosul.  821 00:55:51,181 --> 00:55:55,185      You could say an extensive       propaganda campaign,  822 00:55:55,226 --> 00:55:58,897  kind of information   operations by ISIS,  823 00:55:58,938 --> 00:56:00,523  to prepare the ground  824 00:56:00,565 --> 00:56:02,567  for the taking   of the city of Mosul.  825 00:56:02,609 --> 00:56:04,778  And we know   for example that the ISIS force    826 00:56:04,819 --> 00:56:09,366  that took Mosul was outnumbered     ten to one or more.  827 00:56:10,909 --> 00:56:13,370  They just melted away  828 00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:15,246  in terror that these guys       were in the city  829 00:56:15,288 --> 00:56:16,998  and that they were coming       to get them.  830 00:56:42,107 --> 00:56:44,275        The ISIS propaganda apparatus    831 00:56:44,275 --> 00:56:47,654  saw that you wanted   not one approach,  832 00:56:47,695 --> 00:56:49,364  but many approaches.  833 00:56:50,156 --> 00:56:52,617      So, you know, for example,           we in the West often focus      834 00:56:52,659 --> 00:56:54,285      on "the slaughter videos"  835 00:56:54,327 --> 00:56:56,621  and those certainly   got a lot of eyeballs,  836 00:56:56,663 --> 00:56:59,124  a lot of attention,   a lot of controversy.  837 00:56:59,165 --> 00:57:00,625  But actually,   the slaughter videos  838 00:57:00,667 --> 00:57:03,294  are only a small part   of what ISIS produced.  839 00:57:03,336 --> 00:57:05,505  ISIS produced     lots of other types of videos.    840 00:57:10,718 --> 00:57:12,762         The utopian version of ISIS,    841 00:57:12,804 --> 00:57:14,806  the version they put   on their propaganda  842 00:57:14,848 --> 00:57:16,349  and things like that,   is they're basically  843 00:57:16,391 --> 00:57:18,977      pitching an American dream,      ISIS version.  844 00:57:19,018 --> 00:57:21,229  We'll give you a white      picket fence and the house,      845 00:57:21,271 --> 00:57:22,647  and we'll build   this great society.  846 00:57:23,148 --> 00:57:26,776      Fifty-three thousand     men, women, and children      847 00:57:26,818 --> 00:57:29,946  joined the Islamic State       from over 80 countries.  848 00:57:29,988 --> 00:57:31,030  That's a big number.  849 00:57:32,532 --> 00:57:33,825        ISIS' real goal  850 00:57:33,867 --> 00:57:35,618  was this state-building   project.  851 00:57:37,370 --> 00:57:40,039      They took over large swaths      of territory  852 00:57:40,039 --> 00:57:41,499  in Syria and Iraq.  853 00:57:43,835 --> 00:57:46,171  A lot of their propaganda       that they were doing,  854 00:57:46,212 --> 00:57:47,964  their videos,   their magazines,  855 00:57:48,006 --> 00:57:50,383      was a lot of state-building      propaganda.  856 00:57:50,425 --> 00:57:53,887  They collected taxes,   they ran the police force.     857 00:57:56,931 --> 00:57:58,349     Come to Syria and Iraq,  858 00:57:58,391 --> 00:57:59,767      we're gonna build a society     859 00:57:59,809 --> 00:58:01,811  and we need you to join.      860 00:58:01,853 --> 00:58:03,688  And you had   these charismatic leaders.     861 00:58:03,688 --> 00:58:05,148  Denis is a great example   of that.  862 00:58:14,699 --> 00:58:16,826    I don't know      what was going on in her head.  863 00:58:16,868 --> 00:58:19,037  I don't know   if it was part of her job      864 00:58:19,078 --> 00:58:20,955  to pretend   that she was interested  865 00:58:20,997 --> 00:58:24,042     in that part of the messaging     of the caliphate.  866 00:58:24,083 --> 00:58:25,418      It was definitely something     867 00:58:25,460 --> 00:58:27,295      Daniela was fascinated by,      868 00:58:27,337 --> 00:58:29,339      how equal everything was.  869 00:58:29,339 --> 00:58:30,757  That's what I was told  870 00:58:30,757 --> 00:58:32,800  by somebody   who was close to her.  871 00:58:35,303 --> 00:58:38,097    Daniela Greene   knew what ISIS was.  872 00:58:38,139 --> 00:58:40,391  She knew what ISIS   was trying to achieve  873 00:58:40,391 --> 00:58:42,185  and perhaps   part of it had to do  874 00:58:42,185 --> 00:58:44,229  with her relationship   with Denis Cuspert  875 00:58:44,270 --> 00:58:47,398  and her   wanting to explore that.      876 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,025  But there's wanting   to explore that,  877 00:58:49,067 --> 00:58:51,069  and there's wanting   to travel to Syria  878 00:58:51,110 --> 00:58:53,488      to join the Islamic State     to explore that with someone.     879 00:59:07,252 --> 00:59:10,421    June 11, 2014,   Greene told her supervisor     880 00:59:10,463 --> 00:59:12,257  her intentions   to travel to Germany  881 00:59:12,298 --> 00:59:14,884  to visit her mother.  882 00:59:14,926 --> 00:59:17,262      There's a normal form     that the FBI requires  883 00:59:17,303 --> 00:59:18,638  everyone who's traveling           with a top secret clearance     884 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:19,889  to fill out.  885 00:59:19,889 --> 00:59:21,808  She fills out the form,     says she's gonna go to Germany    886 00:59:21,849 --> 00:59:23,893  to see her family,   and clearly doesn't.  887 00:59:33,403 --> 00:59:35,446    Daniela Greene   fell for him  888 00:59:35,446 --> 00:59:38,116  and really wanted to go   and live there in Syria.      889 00:59:38,157 --> 00:59:42,161  The FBI had not realized       that she had gone rogue.      890 00:59:42,203 --> 00:59:44,831  I was at home     with my family and I received     891 00:59:44,872 --> 00:59:47,792  a phone call   from my supervisor at the time.    892 00:59:47,792 --> 00:59:49,919  He informed me   that Daniela Greene  893 00:59:49,919 --> 00:59:51,921      had never had any intention      to travel to Germany,  894 00:59:51,963 --> 00:59:53,756  but in fact   to travel to Syria.  895 00:59:53,798 --> 00:59:55,550  So at the time     we started the investigation,     896 00:59:55,550 --> 00:59:57,677     we didn't really understand       why she left.  897 00:59:57,719 --> 00:59:59,804  When the investigation   really got into it  898 00:59:59,804 --> 01:00:02,849      and we were able to review       the Skype conversations  899 01:00:02,890 --> 01:00:04,559  that she was having   with Denis Cuspert,  900 01:00:04,601 --> 01:00:06,811  what we saw was not just   the communications  901 01:00:06,853 --> 01:00:09,147  between one individual   and a terrorist,  902 01:00:09,188 --> 01:00:12,108     but the communications between   Daniela and another human.     903 01:00:12,108 --> 01:00:13,985  There were pet names   that were provided  904 01:00:13,985 --> 01:00:15,945  to one another   throughout these conversations.    905 01:00:15,987 --> 01:00:19,157  We don't know if she was, like,         genuinely in love with him      906 01:00:19,157 --> 01:00:22,785  or just kind   of lost and decided  907 01:00:22,785 --> 01:00:24,954  that she would   take certain risks.  908 01:00:24,996 --> 01:00:30,001  And maybe   she was a rogue agent  909 01:00:30,043 --> 01:00:32,462      who thought she was gonna   get a promotion  910 01:00:32,462 --> 01:00:35,506  for doing really dangerous work    911 01:00:35,548 --> 01:00:37,842  of being a honey trap.  912 01:00:37,884 --> 01:00:41,846      At that time when Daniela      went to meet Denis in Syria,     913 01:00:41,846 --> 01:00:45,475     Turkey was the obvious place      to go as a conduit.  914 01:00:45,516 --> 01:00:47,352      You get to Istanbul,     915 01:00:47,393 --> 01:00:49,354  you go down   to the border towns,  916 01:00:49,395 --> 01:00:51,606  you kind of wait     until someone vouches for you.    917 01:00:52,857 --> 01:00:54,359  In this case,   she already had an in.  918 01:00:54,359 --> 01:00:56,027  She had Denis   to vouch for her.  919 01:00:56,069 --> 01:00:57,278     So that pulls a lot of weight.  920 01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,322      And so instead of waiting   weeks at a time,  921 01:00:59,364 --> 01:01:00,990  which we saw a number of cases,    922 01:01:01,032 --> 01:01:02,367  you know, she was able   to cross very quickly.  923 01:01:03,576 --> 01:01:06,079  Daniela Greene   traveled over to Syria  924 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,998      and married Denis Cuspert   within a matter of days.  925 01:01:19,008 --> 01:01:22,637       Daniela came to Syria       the same day I arrived.  926 01:01:22,679 --> 01:01:24,305  My name is Kim  927 01:01:24,305 --> 01:01:26,182  and I went to Syria  928 01:01:26,224 --> 01:01:30,061  from 2014 until 2020.  929 01:01:30,061 --> 01:01:33,523      And I just got out of jail       in August--  930 01:01:33,564 --> 01:01:35,692      the 1st August, this year.      931 01:01:38,986 --> 01:01:42,490  The first time I met Deso,      so it was here in Germany.     932 01:01:43,741 --> 01:01:46,661  He was handsome      and the people knew about him,  933 01:01:46,703 --> 01:01:48,705  everybody knew about him.      934 01:01:48,746 --> 01:01:51,958  I didn't see it like,   "Oh, I know Deso Dogg.  935 01:01:51,958 --> 01:01:53,334  I talked with him."  936 01:01:53,334 --> 01:01:55,086  So I was not like,   "Oh, my God.  937 01:01:55,128 --> 01:01:56,963  Deso Dogg is in town..."  938 01:01:57,004 --> 01:02:01,718  Throwing my bra at him.   No.  939 01:02:01,759 --> 01:02:04,095  But the men were,   like, groupies on him.  940 01:02:04,137 --> 01:02:06,305  It was very weird.  941 01:02:06,347 --> 01:02:07,432  I don't know why.  942 01:02:12,145 --> 01:02:14,397     I was over there in ISIS area    943 01:02:14,439 --> 01:02:18,067  with my ex-husband   because... problems in Germany.    944 01:02:19,527 --> 01:02:23,239  Here, we have only a lot           of problems and shit around,    945 01:02:23,281 --> 01:02:25,783  and the people   called my ex-husband also      946 01:02:25,825 --> 01:02:28,494  and told him,   "It's great here.  947 01:02:28,536 --> 01:02:30,288  Come over.   You'll get houses  948 01:02:30,288 --> 01:02:32,290     and everything will be fine."    949 01:02:32,331 --> 01:02:35,126  They talked about it like           it's a fairytale over there,    950 01:02:35,168 --> 01:02:38,463  so it made   the decision very easy.  951 01:02:44,385 --> 01:02:48,473  And it wasn't--   it wasn't the real life.  952 01:02:48,514 --> 01:02:52,477    So when I arrived over there,      I was completely shocked  953 01:02:52,518 --> 01:02:54,353     because it wasn't like this.     954 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,356  The foreign people,  955 01:02:57,398 --> 01:02:59,984  they were more harsh   than Arabic people.  956 01:02:59,984 --> 01:03:01,986  German people,  957 01:03:02,028 --> 01:03:05,448  yes, they were very harsh       to the  --  958 01:03:05,490 --> 01:03:07,950  to the local people.  959 01:03:07,950 --> 01:03:11,120  They were weird people   with not a lot of friends.     960 01:03:12,497 --> 01:03:16,167      In Syria, they got power.  961 01:03:18,377 --> 01:03:20,129  In the beginning   when I met Daniela,  962 01:03:20,171 --> 01:03:23,090  she seemed like   a nice, polite person,  963 01:03:23,132 --> 01:03:25,301  very quiet and calm.  964 01:03:25,343 --> 01:03:27,637      But also a little bit weird     965 01:03:27,678 --> 01:03:32,183  because I asked her      about how long she is in Islam  966 01:03:32,225 --> 01:03:35,061    and she said, "Not that long.        Maybe few weeks, few months."     967 01:03:35,102 --> 01:03:37,355  And she doesn't know   how to pray.  968 01:03:37,396 --> 01:03:41,734  Daniela, she was doing   a lot of stupid shit, dumb shit,  969 01:03:41,734 --> 01:03:46,113  and she was       putting her ass in danger.      970 01:03:47,740 --> 01:03:50,368      ISIS was at the height     of its power  971 01:03:50,409 --> 01:03:53,204  when Daniela Greene   showed up in Syria  972 01:03:53,246 --> 01:03:55,206  to marry Denis.  973 01:03:55,248 --> 01:03:58,668  But it's not like   a stable environment  974 01:03:58,709 --> 01:04:01,379  to have a honeymoon   with your boyfriend.  975 01:04:01,420 --> 01:04:03,840  People like Denis   were going back and forth      976 01:04:03,881 --> 01:04:07,760  between the front in Iraq       and then back to Syria.  977 01:04:07,802 --> 01:04:10,137  And so she's left       with a bunch of other women     978 01:04:10,179 --> 01:04:13,015  who aren't particularly   well-inclined toward her  979 01:04:13,057 --> 01:04:15,852  because she's sketchy.  980 01:04:15,893 --> 01:04:17,854    She wanted to know   everything about everybody     981 01:04:17,895 --> 01:04:20,022  and she was checking   on the window.  982 01:04:20,064 --> 01:04:22,358  She was looking   inside of the room,  983 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,821    in the cupboards, and she was,     like, spying around.  984 01:04:26,863 --> 01:04:28,906     It got very dangerous for her.  985 01:04:28,906 --> 01:04:32,702  I don't understand why she          put herself in more trouble.    986 01:06:22,311 --> 01:06:26,148    He helped her      because I think he didn't want  987 01:06:26,190 --> 01:06:28,776  to get her killed   if ISIS catches her.  988 01:06:30,403 --> 01:06:33,447         The fact that Daniela Greene    989 01:06:33,489 --> 01:06:37,868  was able to leave   is very, very interesting.     990 01:06:37,910 --> 01:06:40,871  If the version   of what the people  991 01:06:40,871 --> 01:06:44,041  who were close to him--  992 01:06:44,083 --> 01:06:45,751      what they told me is true,      993 01:06:45,793 --> 01:06:47,545      he was able to get her out      994 01:06:47,545 --> 01:06:49,964      even though so many people       were suspicious of her.  995 01:06:49,964 --> 01:06:52,466     People say that he loved her      as well,  996 01:06:52,466 --> 01:06:56,929  which is why after       she told him, supposedly,  997 01:06:56,929 --> 01:07:00,307     that she worked for the FBI,          he still allowed her to--  998 01:07:00,307 --> 01:07:02,727     or helped her to-- to return     999 01:07:02,768 --> 01:07:05,187  to Turkey--   to cross into Turkey  1000 01:07:05,229 --> 01:07:06,939      because he didn't want her       to get killed.  1001 01:07:14,447 --> 01:07:16,490         My name is Volkmar Kabisch.     1002 01:07:16,532 --> 01:07:19,827      I am working for the German      public broadcaster, NDR,      1003 01:07:19,869 --> 01:07:22,288  and I was quite often   in Syria, Iraq  1004 01:07:22,329 --> 01:07:24,457  since 2014.  1005 01:07:24,498 --> 01:07:27,293        I was interested       in what happened  1006 01:07:27,334 --> 01:07:30,421  to people joining ISIS.  1007 01:07:30,463 --> 01:07:32,131  I made films about this.      1008 01:07:42,475 --> 01:07:44,643    Fared Saal   was pretty much involved      1009 01:07:44,685 --> 01:07:48,689      in the German Islamist scene     for quite a long time  1010 01:07:48,731 --> 01:07:49,857  before joining ISIS.  1011 01:07:49,899 --> 01:07:53,903    And Denis Cuspert did the same     and they met in Syria.  1012 01:07:54,945 --> 01:07:57,990  And Denis was, like,   the big shot  1013 01:07:58,032 --> 01:08:00,409  and Fared was  1014 01:08:00,451 --> 01:08:03,537  not that famous as Denis.      1015 01:08:03,579 --> 01:08:05,831  But Denis wanted him   to be more famous,  1016 01:08:05,873 --> 01:08:09,543  so Denis planned  1017 01:08:09,585 --> 01:08:11,337  a public relation act,  1018 01:08:11,378 --> 01:08:15,925  which was filming   very brutal ISIS video.  1019 01:08:53,712 --> 01:08:56,715    There was a video   full of dead bodies,  1020 01:08:56,757 --> 01:08:57,842  Syrian bodies.  1021 01:08:57,883 --> 01:09:00,427      And Fared Saal was standing      just next to them,  1022 01:09:00,427 --> 01:09:03,305  and he was there   together with Denis  1023 01:09:03,347 --> 01:09:04,431  who filmed him.  1024 01:09:04,473 --> 01:09:06,225  So he was the director.  1025 01:09:08,477 --> 01:09:12,898  And it was all about   public relation.  1026 01:09:14,525 --> 01:09:16,402     Denis was still important.     1027 01:09:16,443 --> 01:09:20,239  The propaganda team   had quite a lot of power.      1028 01:09:20,281 --> 01:09:26,370      They were seen as important      as the fighters for ISIS.      1029 01:09:26,370 --> 01:09:30,708  But it didn't mean     that you wouldn't have to also    1030 01:09:30,749 --> 01:09:33,377  kill somebody   if they asked you to.  1031 01:09:33,419 --> 01:09:37,256  I believe the fact   that he stayed there for so long  1032 01:09:37,256 --> 01:09:41,886  is that he--       if they would've asked him      1033 01:09:41,927 --> 01:09:44,054  to kill somebody,      he would've killed somebody.     1034 01:09:44,054 --> 01:09:45,514  Yeah.  1035 01:10:31,352 --> 01:10:33,562      I've had a lot of FBI      cases come across my desk      1036 01:10:33,562 --> 01:10:34,980  and I've seen quite a lot       in the 15 years  1037 01:10:35,022 --> 01:10:36,607      that I've worked at the FBI.    1038 01:10:36,649 --> 01:10:38,609  But I had never seen   something like this.  1039 01:10:38,651 --> 01:10:40,736  I remember meeting her   at Dulles Airport  1040 01:10:40,778 --> 01:10:41,946  upon her arrival  1041 01:10:41,987 --> 01:10:44,114  and her being placed in custody.  1042 01:10:44,156 --> 01:10:45,783     I introduced myself to her,      1043 01:10:45,824 --> 01:10:46,951  said,      "My name is Kevin Gallagher.     1044 01:10:46,992 --> 01:10:48,619  I'm a special agent   with the FBI."  1045 01:10:48,661 --> 01:10:52,039     And she looked me in the eye         and she said, "I know you."      1046 01:10:52,039 --> 01:10:53,832    I came to learn that her and I    1047 01:10:53,874 --> 01:10:56,043  are actually     in a training course in 2012.     1048 01:10:58,212 --> 01:11:00,130    My name is Shawn Moore.    1049 01:11:00,172 --> 01:11:03,801  I was the attorney   for Daniela Greene.  1050 01:11:03,842 --> 01:11:05,928  I was a public defender  1051 01:11:05,970 --> 01:11:09,431  doing cases here in DC      1052 01:11:09,473 --> 01:11:11,642     and it was in the courtroom       that I first met her.  1053 01:11:13,018 --> 01:11:16,397  They kept her   at a hotel near Dulles  1054 01:11:16,438 --> 01:11:19,441  for a couple of days,   interviewing her.  1055 01:11:19,483 --> 01:11:23,112  It wasn't as if I met her          immediately upon her arrival.    1056 01:11:23,153 --> 01:11:26,073  The prosecutors   approached me and said,  1057 01:11:26,115 --> 01:11:29,368  "Look, she's facing     a considerable amount of time,    1058 01:11:29,410 --> 01:11:31,829  she could help herself   if she could help us."  1059 01:11:31,870 --> 01:11:35,708      The charges against Daniela  1060 01:11:35,708 --> 01:11:39,461  it involved   making a false statement      1061 01:11:39,503 --> 01:11:42,089  to the government,      but there was an enhancement     1062 01:11:42,131 --> 01:11:45,175     because the false statements      also involved terrorism.  1063 01:11:45,217 --> 01:11:48,887      Initially, when she started      doing the translating,  1064 01:11:48,887 --> 01:11:50,597  she was following the line     1065 01:11:50,639 --> 01:11:54,685  in trying to help   lure him to a place  1066 01:11:54,727 --> 01:11:57,146     where he could be arrested.      1067 01:11:57,187 --> 01:12:01,608     Now, aside from the romantic         conversations with Cuspert,      1068 01:12:01,650 --> 01:12:03,694  I don't know too much about that  1069 01:12:03,694 --> 01:12:06,572  and whether that was   true or false or what.  1070 01:12:06,572 --> 01:12:09,908  But my impression was that     1071 01:12:09,908 --> 01:12:12,453  because it wasn't working,     1072 01:12:12,494 --> 01:12:14,204  she became frustrated  1073 01:12:14,204 --> 01:12:17,624    and she decided to take things     into her own hands  1074 01:12:17,666 --> 01:12:21,003      and she got into something       way, way over her head.  1075 01:12:21,045 --> 01:12:23,589    You have       a high-ranking FBI employee     1076 01:12:23,589 --> 01:12:26,550  who had knowledge that   would've been restricted      1077 01:12:26,592 --> 01:12:29,178  and that right there   is enough to be criminal  1078 01:12:29,219 --> 01:12:30,971     in terms of the Espionage Act.  1079 01:12:31,013 --> 01:12:32,389  That law was passed  1080 01:12:32,431 --> 01:12:34,808  for the sake   of chomping down on people     1081 01:12:34,850 --> 01:12:36,560      who walk away with secrets.     1082 01:12:36,602 --> 01:12:38,479  The Espionage Act   does not require you  1083 01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,106  to go online       and distribute information.     1084 01:12:41,148 --> 01:12:43,650  It's enough to make   information available.  1085 01:12:43,650 --> 01:12:45,027      And her knowing information     1086 01:12:45,069 --> 01:12:47,321      and going to ISIS-held Syria    1087 01:12:47,363 --> 01:12:49,907  would've been   a slam dunk court case.  1088 01:12:49,948 --> 01:12:51,992  And these are, like,   stiff sentences.  1089 01:12:51,992 --> 01:12:54,870  It's, like, ten years per count.  1090 01:12:54,912 --> 01:12:57,915    After she was arraigned     and brought to jail,  1091 01:12:57,915 --> 01:13:01,085  we immediately   went to an offsite.  1092 01:13:01,126 --> 01:13:03,087  We spent with her   over the course  1093 01:13:03,128 --> 01:13:05,130  of the next 24 hours,   probably about 12 hours,      1094 01:13:05,172 --> 01:13:06,423  interviewing her,  1095 01:13:06,423 --> 01:13:08,425     triaging that with focusing on   any potential threats  1096 01:13:08,467 --> 01:13:09,802  to the United States.  1097 01:13:09,843 --> 01:13:13,764  At no point did we feel     that she withheld information     1098 01:13:13,806 --> 01:13:15,724  from the United States   government.  1099 01:13:15,766 --> 01:13:17,726     And based on the information      that we received  1100 01:13:17,726 --> 01:13:19,061  in the sentencing memo,  1101 01:13:19,103 --> 01:13:20,771  the Assistant   United States Attorney  1102 01:13:20,813 --> 01:13:23,440    identifies that Daniela Greene     came very close  1103 01:13:23,482 --> 01:13:26,443  to skirting the line      of far more serious charges.     1104 01:13:26,485 --> 01:13:29,113    Ultimately, she pleaded guilty    1105 01:13:29,113 --> 01:13:31,698  and was given   a sentence of two years.  1106 01:13:31,698 --> 01:13:34,159     She was obviously relieved.      1107 01:13:38,831 --> 01:13:42,292    But it's almost as if she was     1108 01:13:42,334 --> 01:13:44,128  still kind of   in a state of shock  1109 01:13:44,169 --> 01:13:47,256  about what everything   that had happened.  1110 01:13:47,256 --> 01:13:50,676  But that said, throughout this,     she was always concerned  1111 01:13:50,717 --> 01:13:52,302  about how much of this   was going to get out  1112 01:13:52,344 --> 01:13:53,554  and if so, when.  1113 01:14:06,483 --> 01:14:07,985    I've been   in the hotel business  1114 01:14:08,026 --> 01:14:09,987  for approximately 30 years     1115 01:14:09,987 --> 01:14:11,738  and there was   a great opportunity  1116 01:14:11,780 --> 01:14:15,159  for me to transfer   to a big brand new hotel  1117 01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:18,203  in downtown Syracuse as director   of sales and marketing.  1118 01:14:19,329 --> 01:14:20,664  Each night after work,  1119 01:14:20,664 --> 01:14:22,207  I would go   to the concierge lounge  1120 01:14:22,249 --> 01:14:24,126  and kind of unwind a little bit,  1121 01:14:24,168 --> 01:14:26,170  have a nice cold beer   and eat some dim sum.  1122 01:14:26,211 --> 01:14:29,298  And Daniela   was the hostess there.  1123 01:14:30,591 --> 01:14:32,176  When I first met Daniela,      1124 01:14:32,176 --> 01:14:34,553  she was quite   an attractive woman  1125 01:14:34,595 --> 01:14:38,265    with European characteristics,     straight blonde hair  1126 01:14:38,307 --> 01:14:41,602      and a slight little German       tint of an accent  1127 01:14:41,643 --> 01:14:42,644  to her voice.  1128 01:14:44,229 --> 01:14:47,399      She was well-poised and was      obviously in quite command     1129 01:14:47,441 --> 01:14:49,359     of the job that she was doing.  1130 01:14:49,401 --> 01:14:52,279     She was a person that I saw          as immediately overqualified     1131 01:14:52,321 --> 01:14:53,739      for the position she had.  1132 01:14:53,780 --> 01:14:55,199  So right away,   I started thinking,  1133 01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,659  "Gee, where can she fit?      Where does she want to go?"      1134 01:15:00,204 --> 01:15:02,539  I walked   into the lounge one day  1135 01:15:02,581 --> 01:15:04,833  and Daniela was obviously upset    1136 01:15:04,875 --> 01:15:07,044  and she was really very shaken.    1137 01:15:07,085 --> 01:15:09,963  I knew that she   was previously married.  1138 01:15:10,005 --> 01:15:13,383  She was separated   from her husband, Matt.  1139 01:15:13,425 --> 01:15:15,344  It was really very tough.      1140 01:15:15,385 --> 01:15:19,056  She was going-- obviously going       through a transitional period     1141 01:15:19,097 --> 01:15:20,140  in her life.  1142 01:15:21,475 --> 01:15:23,268  I asked her   what the problem was  1143 01:15:23,310 --> 01:15:26,104  and she just blew it off       a little bit and said,  1144 01:15:26,146 --> 01:15:28,732  "Gee, it's just something       that happened  1145 01:15:28,774 --> 01:15:32,152  in my previous life       that I'm really sorry about     1146 01:15:32,194 --> 01:15:34,029  and I really regret."  1147 01:15:36,156 --> 01:15:38,242       It's preposterous       to me that she only spent      1148 01:15:38,283 --> 01:15:39,409  two years in prison.  1149 01:15:39,451 --> 01:15:43,914     The fact that she went rogue      in this fashion,  1150 01:15:43,956 --> 01:15:45,707  that they had no idea   where she was,  1151 01:15:45,749 --> 01:15:49,294  that she was essentially  1152 01:15:49,336 --> 01:15:52,130     operating against the Bureau     1153 01:15:52,172 --> 01:15:54,007    without their knowledge of it,    1154 01:15:54,049 --> 01:15:56,218  it's very embarrassing   for the FBI.  1155 01:15:56,260 --> 01:15:58,262    The US government and the FBI,    1156 01:15:58,262 --> 01:16:02,266      they don't want the press   questioning Daniela.  1157 01:16:02,266 --> 01:16:06,728  They don't want her side   of the story to get out.  1158 01:16:06,770 --> 01:16:11,733     The FBI would have preferred      if no one knew about this case,    1159 01:16:11,733 --> 01:16:14,861    if it just kind of got brushed     under the carpet.  1160 01:16:14,903 --> 01:16:16,905  ♪♪♪  1161 01:16:26,206 --> 01:16:28,917     A bizarre story that really           does sound like something  1162 01:16:28,959 --> 01:16:30,961  straight out of  Homeland   or a terrorism movie.  1163 01:16:31,003 --> 01:16:33,088  It's an FBI translator  1164 01:16:33,130 --> 01:16:37,092  who was investigating   an ISIS fighter in 2014  1165 01:16:37,134 --> 01:16:39,595  and then fled the United States     for Syria  1166 01:16:39,636 --> 01:16:41,388  and married him.  1167 01:16:41,388 --> 01:16:43,724    Love can make us   do strange things.  1168 01:16:43,765 --> 01:16:46,602     The story of an FBI translator  1169 01:16:46,602 --> 01:16:48,770     who married an ISIS terrorist.  1170 01:16:48,770 --> 01:16:51,189       It's a story almost           too preposterous to be true.    1171 01:16:51,189 --> 01:16:53,942  The FBI translator who       runs off to the Middle East     1172 01:16:53,984 --> 01:16:56,320  to marry the terrorist   she was tracking  1173 01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:58,572  from the Detroit FBI   Field Office.  1174 01:16:58,572 --> 01:17:00,198  Drew, this is   an incredible story.  1175 01:17:00,198 --> 01:17:02,618  What's the FBI saying   about how it happened?  1176 01:17:02,659 --> 01:17:04,119      Greene, who still had      an American husband  1177 01:17:04,161 --> 01:17:05,412     at the time, wrote an email...  1178 01:17:05,454 --> 01:17:07,789    You know, was having an affair     with an ISIS operative.  1179 01:17:07,831 --> 01:17:10,500  Given that Cuspert knew   she worked for the FBI.  1180 01:17:10,500 --> 01:17:12,336     The case got zero publicity       for months  1181 01:17:12,377 --> 01:17:14,421  because the records   were sealed by the court  1182 01:17:14,463 --> 01:17:17,049  and critics say Greene     got off with a light sentence,    1183 01:17:17,049 --> 01:17:18,592  two years and probation,  1184 01:17:18,634 --> 01:17:21,011  because she cooperated   with the FBI.  1185 01:17:21,053 --> 01:17:23,347  And like we said in our report,     most people facing  1186 01:17:23,388 --> 01:17:25,307  these type of charges   are getting  1187 01:17:25,349 --> 01:17:28,810      much more severe sentences         than this former FBI employee.    1188 01:17:30,812 --> 01:17:32,522    Daniela got a great deal.    1189 01:17:32,564 --> 01:17:34,941      It seems that the government     is protecting itself  1190 01:17:34,941 --> 01:17:36,026  by protecting her.  1191 01:17:36,068 --> 01:17:38,195  She's back in the US   with her ex-husband,  1192 01:17:38,236 --> 01:17:39,529  Sergeant Matthew Greene,      1193 01:17:39,571 --> 01:17:41,740  and after serving   a short sentence,  1194 01:17:41,782 --> 01:17:43,492  she's now working   at the Home Depot.  1195 01:17:44,951 --> 01:17:46,495    So in 2014,   you have to remember,  1196 01:17:46,536 --> 01:17:48,747  our intelligence on ISIS       was good,  1197 01:17:48,789 --> 01:17:50,040  but it wasn't great.  1198 01:17:50,082 --> 01:17:51,625      We knew the top leadership.     1199 01:17:51,667 --> 01:17:54,086     We could have a general sense     of the structure,  1200 01:17:54,127 --> 01:17:57,339  but anyone who could   light up the network,  1201 01:17:57,381 --> 01:17:59,883  who goes where,   what do you do in there,      1202 01:17:59,925 --> 01:18:02,094      that is immensely valuable.     1203 01:18:02,135 --> 01:18:04,179    Her cooperation   was extensive.  1204 01:18:04,179 --> 01:18:07,224  It provided information   about ISIS  1205 01:18:07,265 --> 01:18:09,726      that we hadn't seen to date     1206 01:18:09,768 --> 01:18:12,270     and we had eyes on the ground.  1207 01:18:12,312 --> 01:18:13,897  While that was not   our intention,  1208 01:18:13,897 --> 01:18:16,692  it was a byproduct   of the situation  1209 01:18:16,733 --> 01:18:18,151  that we were presented.  1210 01:18:18,193 --> 01:18:20,529      Maybe she's savvier      than we all think  1211 01:18:20,570 --> 01:18:23,657  and she was able   to negotiate that deal  1212 01:18:23,699 --> 01:18:27,828  by providing   very specific information.     1213 01:18:27,869 --> 01:18:30,914    The FBI agents,   they were very interested      1214 01:18:30,956 --> 01:18:35,085  in locations of houses,   where he stayed.  1215 01:18:35,127 --> 01:18:37,713  She provided as much   information as she could      1216 01:18:37,754 --> 01:18:39,881     about what Cuspert was doing,    1217 01:18:39,923 --> 01:18:41,758  led me to believe   that they were trying  1218 01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,010  to get information   to target him.  1219 01:18:50,475 --> 01:18:52,102    Last night on my orders,  1220 01:18:52,144 --> 01:18:54,229  America's armed forces   began strikes  1221 01:18:54,229 --> 01:18:56,022     against ISIL targets in Syria.  1222 01:19:11,121 --> 01:19:15,792        Wars succeed by this       drumbeat of propaganda,  1223 01:19:15,834 --> 01:19:18,712  to feel people encouraged,     1224 01:19:18,754 --> 01:19:22,924      to inspire, and to terrify,      has real meaning.  1225 01:19:22,966 --> 01:19:27,137      To move the heart is power.     1226 01:21:16,705 --> 01:21:18,081   Thank you.  1227 01:21:18,123 --> 01:21:19,833  Thank you too.  1228 01:21:19,875 --> 01:21:21,835  -That's good?     - That's great. Yes.    1229 01:21:21,877 --> 01:21:24,129  -Thank you.   -Thank you. Thank you.  153682

Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.