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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:32,366 --> 00:00:34,086 Oh, come on. 2 00:01:31,805 --> 00:01:33,525 What is it? 3 00:01:33,525 --> 00:01:35,325 It's not him. 4 00:01:36,325 --> 00:01:39,045 I didn't want to text or phone to tell you but... 5 00:01:39,045 --> 00:01:41,525 I don't believe you. On my kids. 6 00:01:41,525 --> 00:01:43,085 It's true. 7 00:01:43,085 --> 00:01:44,525 No. 8 00:01:45,525 --> 00:01:49,285 You've had it confirmed it's Myers and now you're scared. 9 00:01:49,285 --> 00:01:51,245 You have to listen to me. 10 00:01:51,245 --> 00:01:54,805 Craig Myers is not Eddie J Turner. 11 00:01:55,805 --> 00:01:57,645 You're lying. 12 00:01:57,645 --> 00:01:59,485 I saw him, Anna. 13 00:01:59,485 --> 00:02:02,805 Saw who? Do you not understand what I'm telling you? 14 00:02:02,805 --> 00:02:07,045 Who did you see? We have ruined an innocent man's life! 15 00:02:07,045 --> 00:02:08,805 Who, Mo? 16 00:02:12,525 --> 00:02:14,165 I won't tell you. 17 00:02:14,165 --> 00:02:15,965 Mo! No. 18 00:02:15,965 --> 00:02:19,325 You have to tell me, for Liam's sake. 19 00:02:19,325 --> 00:02:22,525 This isn't about Liam, 20 00:02:22,525 --> 00:02:24,285 not any more. 21 00:02:25,285 --> 00:02:27,525 It's over, Anna. 22 00:02:28,525 --> 00:02:31,045 We ruined his life. 23 00:03:28,805 --> 00:03:33,045 Members of the jury, will your spokesperson please rise? 24 00:03:34,045 --> 00:03:37,445 Have you reached a verdict in respect of the accused, 25 00:03:37,445 --> 00:03:39,285 Anna Louise Dean? 26 00:03:39,285 --> 00:03:40,525 Yes. 27 00:03:40,525 --> 00:03:42,285 What is your verdict? 28 00:03:46,045 --> 00:03:47,725 Guilty. 29 00:03:49,285 --> 00:03:52,605 Are there any deletions or amendments to the charge? 30 00:03:52,605 --> 00:03:54,645 Deletion of the word murder, 31 00:03:54,645 --> 00:03:58,805 amended to assault to danger of life. 32 00:04:06,525 --> 00:04:08,805 My Lady, pending preparation of reports, 33 00:04:08,805 --> 00:04:10,805 I make an application for bail. 34 00:04:10,805 --> 00:04:14,805 Mrs Dean is part of a strong family unit, has no previous convictions 35 00:04:14,805 --> 00:04:18,805 and has adhered to the conditions of bail set at the petition hearing. 36 00:04:19,805 --> 00:04:22,045 I will continue to grant bail, 37 00:04:22,045 --> 00:04:24,805 subject to the same special conditions. 38 00:04:33,285 --> 00:04:37,125 This is Christian. Leave me a message and I'll get back to you. 39 00:04:37,125 --> 00:04:38,805 It's not him. 40 00:04:39,805 --> 00:04:42,525 Christian, it's not Craig Myers. 41 00:04:42,525 --> 00:04:45,285 The social worker meets Turner in the cafe 42 00:04:45,285 --> 00:04:48,045 but you're not looking for Craig Myers. 43 00:04:56,285 --> 00:04:57,805 OK, so... 44 00:04:58,805 --> 00:05:02,325 ..in short, they believed Anna posted the message 45 00:05:02,325 --> 00:05:05,805 and wanted Craig Myers assaulted but not that she wanted him dead. 46 00:05:06,805 --> 00:05:09,525 It's not great but it could have been a lot worse. 47 00:05:12,525 --> 00:05:15,605 So what now? Sentencing in a few weeks' time. 48 00:05:22,805 --> 00:05:24,285 I'm sorry. 49 00:05:25,525 --> 00:05:27,005 I'm so sorry. 50 00:05:27,005 --> 00:05:28,285 Oh, Mum. 51 00:06:40,525 --> 00:06:42,285 I was wrong. 52 00:06:42,285 --> 00:06:44,285 About what? 53 00:06:44,285 --> 00:06:46,405 Everything. 54 00:06:46,405 --> 00:06:48,285 Craig Myers. 55 00:06:49,285 --> 00:06:50,885 All of it. 56 00:06:53,285 --> 00:06:56,125 You were never convinced but I wouldn't listen... 57 00:06:57,125 --> 00:06:59,045 ..and now it's too late. 58 00:06:59,045 --> 00:07:03,965 Anna, are you genuinely saying you may have made a mistake? 59 00:07:06,285 --> 00:07:09,725 Does that mean you might be willing to apologise to Mr Myers? 60 00:07:10,725 --> 00:07:13,445 What does it matter? It may matter a lot. 61 00:07:13,445 --> 00:07:16,285 What are you thinking? Restorative justice. 62 00:07:16,285 --> 00:07:19,285 It's a process in which the guilty party 63 00:07:19,285 --> 00:07:21,285 meets with the victim of a crime 64 00:07:21,285 --> 00:07:24,805 and takes part in a mediated discussion about the impact of it. 65 00:07:24,805 --> 00:07:28,525 An apology isn't a strict prerequisite of the process, 66 00:07:28,525 --> 00:07:31,525 but for the purposes of the court, if it goes well, 67 00:07:31,525 --> 00:07:35,725 it may just persuade the judge to go for a community-based disposal. 68 00:07:35,725 --> 00:07:38,125 So you mean this could keep her out of prison? 69 00:07:38,125 --> 00:07:39,845 It's worth a try, isn't it? 70 00:07:39,845 --> 00:07:42,965 But Anna would have to completely accept the roles assigned 71 00:07:42,965 --> 00:07:46,525 by the court, namely that she is the criminal and he's the victim. 72 00:07:56,805 --> 00:07:58,285 Craig? 73 00:07:58,285 --> 00:08:01,525 At last! Where have you been? They've delivered the verdict. 74 00:08:01,525 --> 00:08:03,045 What happened? 75 00:08:04,045 --> 00:08:06,045 Guilty. She's guilty. 76 00:08:07,045 --> 00:08:08,885 We won, Craig. 77 00:08:08,885 --> 00:08:10,765 You won. 78 00:08:10,765 --> 00:08:12,205 Thanks. 79 00:08:14,045 --> 00:08:16,045 Can you talk to someone for me? 80 00:08:17,045 --> 00:08:18,525 About what? 81 00:08:50,285 --> 00:08:51,805 Hello? 82 00:08:55,805 --> 00:08:59,205 They found me guilty of a lesser charge 83 00:08:59,205 --> 00:09:00,805 but guilty. 84 00:09:00,805 --> 00:09:02,285 Thanks. 85 00:09:02,285 --> 00:09:05,285 She's here now, Danny. I'll pass you over. 86 00:09:07,165 --> 00:09:08,405 Ben? 87 00:09:08,405 --> 00:09:10,445 Ben's at school. 88 00:09:10,445 --> 00:09:12,005 Where are you? 89 00:09:15,645 --> 00:09:17,285 Louise?! 90 00:09:19,805 --> 00:09:22,445 What's going on with Lou and Danny? 91 00:09:25,805 --> 00:09:28,965 Was that him on the phone? What's happened? 92 00:09:28,965 --> 00:09:34,045 She's been trying to get hold of him all night. Lenny, what's going on? 93 00:09:35,805 --> 00:09:38,005 It was Danny who found Liam's body. 94 00:09:39,805 --> 00:09:41,525 No, it wasn't! 95 00:09:41,525 --> 00:09:43,525 It couldn't have been... 96 00:09:47,045 --> 00:09:48,565 Danny? 97 00:09:48,565 --> 00:09:50,405 Gerry Tythe told us. 98 00:09:50,405 --> 00:09:54,165 What? I'm so sorry I didn't tell you. He's got Ben. 99 00:09:55,165 --> 00:09:57,125 Danny's got Ben! 100 00:09:58,125 --> 00:09:59,805 Phone the school. 101 00:10:05,005 --> 00:10:07,205 You heard the verdict, boss? 102 00:10:07,205 --> 00:10:10,605 Did you go and see a William Napier in custody at Edinburgh? 103 00:10:14,525 --> 00:10:17,285 He attacked Craig Myers. Told you that, did he? 104 00:10:17,285 --> 00:10:19,565 No, because Anna Dean has a hold over him, 105 00:10:19,565 --> 00:10:22,485 but I'm going to talk to DS Harvey. No. No, you're not. 106 00:10:22,485 --> 00:10:26,125 Napier has made a complaint to his solicitor 107 00:10:26,125 --> 00:10:29,285 despite your warnings or threats. 108 00:10:29,285 --> 00:10:32,285 Boss... Not only did you ignore a direct order from me... 109 00:10:32,285 --> 00:10:35,525 Look, if we can get an admission before Anna Dean is sentenced... 110 00:10:35,525 --> 00:10:38,365 ..you interviewed a potential suspect alone and unrecorded. 111 00:10:38,365 --> 00:10:41,285 Do you really think we'd get a conviction after that? 112 00:10:43,005 --> 00:10:45,525 Well, I'm surprised you're not congratulating me. 113 00:10:45,525 --> 00:10:48,125 It means all this will go away a lot quicker, doesn't it? 114 00:10:48,125 --> 00:10:50,125 I'm suspending you from duty as of now. 115 00:10:53,805 --> 00:10:55,685 She's laughing at us, you know that? 116 00:10:55,685 --> 00:10:59,045 She's sitting there with Napier right now having a good old chuckle. 117 00:10:59,045 --> 00:11:02,525 Napier isn't chuckling with anyone. He tried to kill himself last night. 118 00:11:03,525 --> 00:11:05,525 I need your warrant card. 119 00:11:22,045 --> 00:11:23,445 Ben! 120 00:11:23,445 --> 00:11:25,045 Come here! 121 00:11:26,045 --> 00:11:27,285 Why? 122 00:11:28,285 --> 00:11:30,125 Just do as you're told, OK? 123 00:11:31,125 --> 00:11:33,285 No, no, no, you stay where you are. 124 00:11:35,805 --> 00:11:37,685 He never wanted to lie. 125 00:11:38,685 --> 00:11:40,445 What have you told him? 126 00:11:42,445 --> 00:11:45,125 The truth. And what's that? 127 00:11:47,285 --> 00:11:48,805 Why, Danny? 128 00:11:51,285 --> 00:11:53,045 The night we met... 129 00:11:54,285 --> 00:11:57,445 ..I didn't know how to talk to you, and then... 130 00:11:58,445 --> 00:12:01,245 ..you mentioned Liam, like, straight away. Why?! 131 00:12:03,805 --> 00:12:05,525 All those years... 132 00:12:06,805 --> 00:12:09,365 ..I didn't know what to do with any of it. 133 00:12:09,365 --> 00:12:12,445 I couldn't let go of it. I couldn't talk about it either. 134 00:12:14,525 --> 00:12:16,285 Then, all of a sudden... 135 00:12:17,285 --> 00:12:18,805 ..you made it... 136 00:12:19,805 --> 00:12:21,285 ..real. 137 00:12:21,285 --> 00:12:23,805 You and then Anna, you made it... 138 00:12:25,045 --> 00:12:26,445 ..normal. 139 00:12:26,445 --> 00:12:28,605 You think what you've done is normal? 140 00:12:29,605 --> 00:12:32,765 You used me. I couldn't tell you straight off, could I? 141 00:12:33,765 --> 00:12:35,805 Ben, can you please just come here? 142 00:12:35,805 --> 00:12:38,805 He wanted to come with me, I said no. Tell Anna that. 143 00:12:38,805 --> 00:12:43,285 No, no. Don't you ever contact me or my family ever again. 144 00:12:50,045 --> 00:12:51,525 Go on, pal. 145 00:12:53,445 --> 00:12:54,805 Go on. 146 00:13:03,805 --> 00:13:05,285 And remember... 147 00:13:06,245 --> 00:13:07,485 ..OK? 148 00:13:07,485 --> 00:13:09,285 It's not my fault. 149 00:13:17,285 --> 00:13:21,045 Will you tell her that? That he wanted to come with me? 150 00:13:39,525 --> 00:13:41,045 Oh! 151 00:14:26,045 --> 00:14:27,805 I don't understand this. 152 00:14:29,445 --> 00:14:30,965 Why should he? 153 00:14:31,965 --> 00:14:34,045 That's a good question. I know. 154 00:14:35,045 --> 00:14:36,725 But what's the answer? 155 00:14:40,285 --> 00:14:42,045 She's ruined his life. 156 00:14:42,045 --> 00:14:44,805 You can refuse the meeting, Craig. 157 00:14:44,805 --> 00:14:46,885 There's no obligation. 158 00:14:47,885 --> 00:14:50,005 It's in her interests, though, isn't it? 159 00:14:50,005 --> 00:14:51,525 Not his. 160 00:14:51,525 --> 00:14:54,045 Actually, this process is all about the victim. 161 00:14:55,045 --> 00:14:57,525 The questions we ask after a crime - 162 00:14:57,525 --> 00:15:00,805 what laws have been broken, who broke them, 163 00:15:00,805 --> 00:15:04,045 what do they deserve as punishment - are about the offender, 164 00:15:04,045 --> 00:15:06,525 whereas restorative justice asks, 165 00:15:06,525 --> 00:15:08,285 who's been hurt? 166 00:15:08,285 --> 00:15:10,125 What do they need? 167 00:15:10,125 --> 00:15:13,045 And whose obligation is it to repair that damage? 168 00:15:14,045 --> 00:15:17,285 I think it's right to focus on your needs, Craig. 169 00:15:18,805 --> 00:15:21,805 This is about what you need to move forward now. 170 00:15:21,805 --> 00:15:23,285 That's all. 171 00:16:02,525 --> 00:16:04,885 I'd have come sooner if I'd known. 172 00:16:05,885 --> 00:16:08,285 But the surgery only called me today. 173 00:16:10,525 --> 00:16:14,645 Carol said you had some interesting ideas for redecorating the place. 174 00:16:21,525 --> 00:16:23,485 I'm sorry, Anna. 175 00:16:23,485 --> 00:16:25,525 I've told you before, 176 00:16:25,525 --> 00:16:27,725 you don't have to apologise to me. 177 00:16:27,725 --> 00:16:29,285 You trusted me... 178 00:16:30,285 --> 00:16:32,525 ..and I got you in trouble. 179 00:16:40,525 --> 00:16:43,365 William, tell me you didn't. 180 00:16:44,325 --> 00:16:45,805 Not you. 181 00:16:48,285 --> 00:16:50,445 I didn't mean to get you in trouble. 182 00:16:52,125 --> 00:16:54,525 Is that why you did this to yourself? 183 00:16:54,525 --> 00:16:56,805 He doesn't deserve to be free. 184 00:16:59,045 --> 00:17:00,765 I want him to die. 185 00:17:00,765 --> 00:17:04,165 I want all the sick bastards to die. 186 00:17:08,525 --> 00:17:10,685 This is my fault. 187 00:17:10,685 --> 00:17:13,045 What I did was wrong. 188 00:17:14,045 --> 00:17:16,045 I'm going to tell them it was me. 189 00:17:17,805 --> 00:17:19,805 I'm going to confess. 190 00:17:22,925 --> 00:17:24,805 He says I am a victim... 191 00:17:25,805 --> 00:17:27,445 ..but I'm not. 192 00:17:27,445 --> 00:17:28,965 No. 193 00:18:26,045 --> 00:18:27,445 Taxi's here. 194 00:18:27,445 --> 00:18:30,205 Are you sure you don't want me to drive you? 195 00:18:30,205 --> 00:18:32,525 I'll call you straight after. 196 00:18:32,525 --> 00:18:34,885 We're all proud of you, you know. 197 00:19:17,805 --> 00:19:20,045 Welcome. How was the journey? 198 00:19:23,445 --> 00:19:25,285 He's not here yet. 199 00:19:28,045 --> 00:19:29,605 It's important, 200 00:19:29,605 --> 00:19:31,205 the circle, 201 00:19:31,205 --> 00:19:33,085 because we're all connected. 202 00:19:33,085 --> 00:19:36,045 What you do affects me and vice versa. 203 00:19:47,805 --> 00:19:49,485 Welcome. 204 00:20:04,685 --> 00:20:06,805 Thank you both for coming. 205 00:20:07,805 --> 00:20:09,285 I'm Simone. 206 00:20:09,285 --> 00:20:11,245 Craig, this is Anna. 207 00:20:11,245 --> 00:20:12,925 Anna, this is Craig. 208 00:20:14,285 --> 00:20:16,285 You're both here voluntarily 209 00:20:16,285 --> 00:20:19,245 to talk about the offence Anna was recently convicted of. 210 00:20:19,245 --> 00:20:21,285 You'll both get a chance to speak 211 00:20:21,285 --> 00:20:25,325 but I'd ask you to be respectful and not to interrupt. 212 00:20:26,325 --> 00:20:29,365 Mobile phones off or on silent, please. 213 00:20:30,525 --> 00:20:33,805 Obviously, I'll be writing a report the judge will see, 214 00:20:33,805 --> 00:20:36,805 but can we agree that anything said in this room 215 00:20:36,805 --> 00:20:40,405 will remain private and confidential? 216 00:20:42,285 --> 00:20:43,525 OK. 217 00:20:44,525 --> 00:20:48,445 Anna, can I ask you to go back to last October 218 00:20:48,445 --> 00:20:52,445 and talk about your state of mind leading up to the offence? 219 00:20:53,805 --> 00:20:57,285 It was the same as it's been since as long as I can remember. 220 00:20:58,805 --> 00:21:01,045 How much I miss my son. 221 00:21:02,045 --> 00:21:04,885 And that I can't rest until the identity of the man 222 00:21:04,885 --> 00:21:06,805 who killed him is made public. 223 00:21:09,805 --> 00:21:12,045 A few weeks before Halloween... 224 00:21:13,045 --> 00:21:16,045 ..I received information that Eddie J Turner 225 00:21:16,045 --> 00:21:20,285 was living in Port Glasgow under the name Craig Myers. 226 00:21:20,285 --> 00:21:22,805 I looked his address up online... 227 00:21:23,805 --> 00:21:27,125 ..and I saw two schools within a mile of his house. 228 00:21:29,285 --> 00:21:31,045 I felt sick. 229 00:21:32,525 --> 00:21:34,885 I needed to warn people. 230 00:21:35,885 --> 00:21:37,925 So I bought a pay-as-you-go phone... 231 00:21:38,925 --> 00:21:41,805 ..set up an account using false details 232 00:21:41,805 --> 00:21:46,045 and I posted his picture online with his name and address. 233 00:21:48,285 --> 00:21:51,325 I'm not saying I didn't know there would be consequences. 234 00:21:51,325 --> 00:21:53,045 For Craig, you mean? 235 00:21:54,805 --> 00:21:56,405 For everyone. 236 00:21:56,405 --> 00:21:59,645 And knowing there would be consequences, can you remember 237 00:21:59,645 --> 00:22:04,045 how it felt pressing that button and making the accusation public? 238 00:22:05,525 --> 00:22:07,165 It felt good... 239 00:22:08,285 --> 00:22:09,965 ..at the time. 240 00:22:10,965 --> 00:22:13,365 Why do you think that was, Anna? 241 00:22:13,365 --> 00:22:16,805 I think it was because I was doing something. 242 00:22:18,805 --> 00:22:22,285 And even if I got caught, it was still better than being so... 243 00:22:26,525 --> 00:22:28,525 ..helpless, I suppose. 244 00:22:29,525 --> 00:22:31,765 Do you remember any other feelings? 245 00:22:33,045 --> 00:22:34,605 You mean guilt? 246 00:22:35,605 --> 00:22:37,285 If you felt any. 247 00:22:42,285 --> 00:22:47,045 The only guilt I felt at the time was about lying to my family. 248 00:22:49,445 --> 00:22:51,045 I regret that. 249 00:22:53,525 --> 00:22:56,285 But the anger was bigger than the guilt. 250 00:22:57,285 --> 00:23:00,165 It always is. It's bigger than anything. 251 00:23:00,165 --> 00:23:02,245 Are you angry now? 252 00:23:02,245 --> 00:23:04,285 I'm always angry. 253 00:23:04,285 --> 00:23:06,205 It never goes away. 254 00:23:06,205 --> 00:23:07,805 It's hate. 255 00:23:07,805 --> 00:23:09,525 I hate him. 256 00:23:09,525 --> 00:23:11,285 You mean Eddie J Turner? 257 00:23:12,285 --> 00:23:14,965 Is it him you hate or what he did? 258 00:23:15,965 --> 00:23:18,365 I don't believe you can separate them. 259 00:23:20,045 --> 00:23:22,205 And I know that sometimes 260 00:23:22,205 --> 00:23:25,045 the hate can affect my judgments... 261 00:23:26,805 --> 00:23:29,005 ..but it's who I am now. 262 00:23:30,285 --> 00:23:32,805 I was never the same person after Liam died. 263 00:23:34,525 --> 00:23:37,085 I started to see the bad in people... 264 00:23:38,085 --> 00:23:39,805 ..before the good. 265 00:23:43,045 --> 00:23:45,045 And it made me harder. 266 00:23:50,045 --> 00:23:53,525 None of this is any excuse for what I've done to you. 267 00:23:55,285 --> 00:23:57,805 I thought he was you but I was wrong... 268 00:23:58,805 --> 00:24:01,805 ..and I'm sorry. I don't want your apology. 269 00:24:02,805 --> 00:24:05,805 Anna, you said you accept you were wrong 270 00:24:05,805 --> 00:24:08,805 for posting the name of the person you believed... No. 271 00:24:08,805 --> 00:24:11,285 That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying... 272 00:24:12,285 --> 00:24:16,205 ..I'm saying I was wrong to accuse him. 273 00:24:17,205 --> 00:24:19,525 So if I was him, you wouldn't be sorry? 274 00:24:22,805 --> 00:24:24,365 No. 275 00:24:24,365 --> 00:24:26,445 I wouldn't be sorry. 276 00:24:27,445 --> 00:24:31,285 I can't apologise for trying to get justice for my son. 277 00:24:31,285 --> 00:24:33,045 Not to anyone. 278 00:24:33,045 --> 00:24:35,805 And what exactly did you hope to achieve, Anna, 279 00:24:35,805 --> 00:24:37,565 by doing what you did? 280 00:24:39,045 --> 00:24:40,805 I thought, naively... 281 00:24:41,805 --> 00:24:44,285 ..that if I made him stand up in court... 282 00:24:45,645 --> 00:24:47,805 ..it would all come out. 283 00:24:47,805 --> 00:24:49,805 The mask would slip. 284 00:24:50,805 --> 00:24:53,845 He'd have to face what he did. Face me. 285 00:24:56,805 --> 00:24:59,285 And I would find out why. 286 00:25:01,805 --> 00:25:04,805 The "Why?" question is a huge one for anybody 287 00:25:04,805 --> 00:25:07,805 who's been affected by crime, isn't it, Craig? 288 00:25:09,045 --> 00:25:12,285 Has what Anna's shared so far gone any way 289 00:25:12,285 --> 00:25:14,285 to answering the "Why?" for you? 290 00:25:14,285 --> 00:25:16,805 She still hasn't said where my name came from. 291 00:25:16,805 --> 00:25:19,125 I'm sorry, I can't tell anyone that. 292 00:25:19,125 --> 00:25:22,045 Or whether she sent that guy to my house. No. 293 00:25:23,045 --> 00:25:25,405 I didn't. Do you know who he was? 294 00:25:26,805 --> 00:25:28,525 All I can say 295 00:25:28,525 --> 00:25:32,125 is I truly wish it hadn't happened. 296 00:25:33,125 --> 00:25:36,805 Craig, when you woke in hospital and found out you'd been attacked 297 00:25:36,805 --> 00:25:39,085 as a result of this accusation, 298 00:25:39,085 --> 00:25:41,205 how did you feel? 299 00:25:42,805 --> 00:25:44,805 I know about anger. 300 00:25:45,805 --> 00:25:47,685 She's not the only one. 301 00:25:48,685 --> 00:25:50,285 I felt guilty. 302 00:25:50,285 --> 00:25:51,805 In the hospital? 303 00:25:51,805 --> 00:25:53,525 Guilty about what? 304 00:25:54,525 --> 00:25:57,285 That my daughter had to see me like that. 305 00:25:58,285 --> 00:26:01,405 Lying there, bleeding all over the carpet. 306 00:26:02,405 --> 00:26:04,525 That was her home. 307 00:26:04,525 --> 00:26:06,965 The one place she should feel safe. 308 00:26:07,965 --> 00:26:10,045 She thought I was dead. 309 00:26:11,285 --> 00:26:15,285 Six years old and she's defending me to the other kids at school. 310 00:26:16,805 --> 00:26:19,285 It's meant to be me protecting her. 311 00:26:20,285 --> 00:26:22,285 And you feel guilty about that? 312 00:26:23,285 --> 00:26:25,605 And that it was a relief, 313 00:26:25,605 --> 00:26:27,525 in a way, 314 00:26:27,525 --> 00:26:29,285 when they left. 315 00:26:32,285 --> 00:26:34,805 Because at least when they're nowhere near me, 316 00:26:34,805 --> 00:26:37,125 I don't have to worry about them so much. 317 00:26:45,285 --> 00:26:49,525 I'd be lying if I said I was sorry for trying to find Turner... 318 00:26:51,045 --> 00:26:52,885 ..but the last thing I wanted 319 00:26:52,885 --> 00:26:55,285 was for more innocent people to get hurt. 320 00:26:56,285 --> 00:26:58,285 I'm so sorry, Craig. 321 00:26:58,285 --> 00:27:00,765 I don't want your apology. I said that! 322 00:27:00,765 --> 00:27:03,365 You obviously find it hard to hear. 323 00:27:04,365 --> 00:27:06,005 I think I need a break. 324 00:27:06,005 --> 00:27:07,805 Will you look at me? 325 00:27:08,805 --> 00:27:10,285 Please. 326 00:27:10,285 --> 00:27:14,245 I know it's not enough but I need you to know. 327 00:27:14,245 --> 00:27:15,485 Don't! 328 00:27:15,485 --> 00:27:17,045 Don't what, Craig? 329 00:27:17,045 --> 00:27:18,645 I need a break! 330 00:27:18,645 --> 00:27:21,085 I'm so sorry for what I've done to you. 331 00:27:21,085 --> 00:27:22,805 Don't! Craig. 332 00:27:22,805 --> 00:27:24,525 Please... 333 00:27:24,525 --> 00:27:27,165 Craig... Don't. Will you look at me, please? 334 00:27:27,165 --> 00:27:30,045 Stop! OK. I'm so sorry, Craig. 335 00:27:30,045 --> 00:27:32,445 Please... I'm not Craig! 336 00:27:34,525 --> 00:27:36,725 I'm Eddie J Turner! 337 00:27:40,045 --> 00:27:42,005 That's why I'm here. 338 00:27:43,005 --> 00:27:45,285 Because there's no getting away from it. 339 00:27:45,285 --> 00:27:46,805 I'm him, he's me. 340 00:27:46,805 --> 00:27:48,245 He still is. 341 00:27:55,805 --> 00:27:57,445 Anna. 342 00:28:09,085 --> 00:28:10,525 Don't go. 343 00:28:12,045 --> 00:28:13,525 Anna! 344 00:28:37,285 --> 00:28:39,045 Which way is out? 345 00:29:04,285 --> 00:29:06,125 This is Christian. 346 00:29:06,125 --> 00:29:08,525 Leave me a message and I'll get back to you. 347 00:29:09,525 --> 00:29:12,245 Faster, please. As fast as you can. 348 00:29:30,525 --> 00:29:32,805 Answer, Christian. Please answer the phone! 349 00:29:32,805 --> 00:29:36,045 This is Christian. Leave me a message and I'll get back to you. 350 00:29:48,485 --> 00:29:50,045 Excuse me. 351 00:29:50,045 --> 00:29:51,805 Are you Christian? 352 00:29:51,805 --> 00:29:53,645 Your wife's on the phone. 353 00:30:35,485 --> 00:30:37,285 Your bell's broke. 354 00:30:37,285 --> 00:30:39,765 I took the batteries out. 355 00:30:40,765 --> 00:30:42,525 I come in peace. 356 00:30:53,045 --> 00:30:54,805 You didn't phone. 357 00:31:00,165 --> 00:31:01,885 Is it your day off? 358 00:31:04,045 --> 00:31:07,525 You said you'd phone and tell me what was said at the meeting. 359 00:31:07,525 --> 00:31:10,045 Were there any...admissions? 360 00:31:26,125 --> 00:31:28,045 Only mine. 361 00:32:07,605 --> 00:32:09,525 You should tell someone. 362 00:32:11,805 --> 00:32:13,525 Solomon, at least. 363 00:32:17,045 --> 00:32:19,285 And what about Louise and Lenny? 364 00:32:22,765 --> 00:32:24,285 I don't know. 365 00:32:28,045 --> 00:32:30,445 I should definitely phone them, though. 366 00:32:30,445 --> 00:32:32,285 They'll be wondering. 367 00:32:44,725 --> 00:32:47,285 He must have put this in my bag. 368 00:32:47,285 --> 00:32:49,685 What the hell was he thinking? 369 00:32:49,685 --> 00:32:51,805 Phone Solomon now. 370 00:32:58,805 --> 00:33:00,365 No, Anna. 371 00:33:00,365 --> 00:33:04,125 He's the only one that can tell us what happened. No. 372 00:33:05,805 --> 00:33:08,805 We should make him do what I just had to do. 373 00:33:08,805 --> 00:33:12,045 Make him tell the truth with no-one there to speak for him. 374 00:33:14,045 --> 00:33:16,285 I don't want to know what happened. 375 00:33:23,805 --> 00:33:25,965 So what do you want, Christian? 376 00:33:27,525 --> 00:33:29,845 Because we can't go back, can we? 377 00:33:33,525 --> 00:33:35,205 So what do you want? 378 00:34:06,085 --> 00:34:08,125 Hiya, mate. 379 00:34:13,525 --> 00:34:15,525 What are you doing here? 380 00:34:22,285 --> 00:34:25,045 Judith said you went to see her as well. 381 00:34:26,285 --> 00:34:28,365 Yeah, because I'm worried about you. 382 00:34:31,285 --> 00:34:33,485 You're not exactly reassuring me. 383 00:34:33,485 --> 00:34:35,445 Who's Judith? 384 00:34:42,805 --> 00:34:46,285 She's the woman who's looked after my case since I was released. 385 00:34:50,285 --> 00:34:52,245 I'm a liar, Bex. 386 00:34:54,045 --> 00:34:57,845 I was taught to lie. I was told my life depended on it. 387 00:35:11,525 --> 00:35:14,365 I came close to telling you so many times 388 00:35:14,365 --> 00:35:16,805 but I couldn't risk losing you both. 389 00:35:16,805 --> 00:35:20,565 You looked me in the eye and you said, "I'm not him." 390 00:35:20,565 --> 00:35:22,445 How could you do that?! 391 00:35:22,445 --> 00:35:24,805 Because I'd convinced myself that I wasn't! 392 00:35:25,805 --> 00:35:29,805 You see, I've lied to everybody, including me. 393 00:35:29,805 --> 00:35:31,805 You didn't lie to him. 394 00:35:31,805 --> 00:35:34,605 I shared a cell with Tom in jail. 395 00:35:34,605 --> 00:35:37,285 I had to tell somebody or else I would have... 396 00:35:39,445 --> 00:35:42,525 After I got out, they wanted me to move to England. 397 00:35:42,525 --> 00:35:45,285 I found out he was coming back here and... 398 00:35:46,805 --> 00:35:49,285 ..I had to be myself with someone. 399 00:35:50,805 --> 00:35:52,685 You could have told me. 400 00:35:52,685 --> 00:35:54,285 Could I? 401 00:35:58,285 --> 00:36:01,525 I'm going to have to go somewhere and start again, Bex. 402 00:36:02,805 --> 00:36:05,045 I want that to be with you. 403 00:36:07,445 --> 00:36:08,805 No. 404 00:36:08,805 --> 00:36:11,165 Leave me alone. Leave me alone. 405 00:36:11,165 --> 00:36:14,045 I want you to know who I am. You and Jess. 406 00:36:14,045 --> 00:36:16,245 Leave me alone! 407 00:36:23,605 --> 00:36:25,285 I love you. 408 00:36:59,285 --> 00:37:00,765 Hi. 409 00:37:01,805 --> 00:37:05,285 You know you don't have to talk about it until you're ready, 410 00:37:05,285 --> 00:37:07,765 but as soon as you are, then... 411 00:37:10,805 --> 00:37:13,125 I'm so lucky to have you. 412 00:37:14,125 --> 00:37:15,605 We all are. 413 00:38:19,285 --> 00:38:20,805 I'm sorry. 414 00:38:30,285 --> 00:38:31,805 I'm sorry. 415 00:38:55,805 --> 00:38:57,285 Hello. 416 00:38:57,285 --> 00:38:59,525 10am tomorrow. 417 00:38:59,525 --> 00:39:01,285 You know where. 418 00:39:07,045 --> 00:39:10,805 Come on, then. I don't want to. 419 00:39:10,805 --> 00:39:12,525 Why not? 420 00:39:12,525 --> 00:39:14,285 I'm doing this, Dad! 421 00:39:15,285 --> 00:39:18,805 They're not going anywhere. Come on. This'll be good to keep. 422 00:39:19,805 --> 00:39:21,525 OK, then. 423 00:39:22,805 --> 00:39:24,525 Right, then. 424 00:39:24,525 --> 00:39:26,045 Here we go. 425 00:39:26,045 --> 00:39:27,445 Name? 426 00:39:27,445 --> 00:39:29,805 Liam. Liam Graham. 427 00:39:29,805 --> 00:39:31,285 Age? 428 00:39:31,285 --> 00:39:32,805 Nine. 429 00:39:32,805 --> 00:39:35,525 And...OK, what else? 430 00:39:35,525 --> 00:39:38,045 What do you want to be when you grow up? 431 00:39:39,045 --> 00:39:40,445 Big. 432 00:39:40,445 --> 00:39:42,565 I want to be big. 433 00:40:25,045 --> 00:40:26,525 No. 434 00:41:28,045 --> 00:41:31,045 I used to come and lay flowers here at first. 435 00:41:32,045 --> 00:41:33,805 Lots of people did. 436 00:41:35,805 --> 00:41:38,805 And then I thought, what the hell are we doing? 437 00:41:39,805 --> 00:41:41,525 Anywhere but here. 438 00:41:49,525 --> 00:41:51,965 Why did you give me your number? 439 00:41:55,285 --> 00:41:57,485 We didn't really finish the meeting. 440 00:41:59,045 --> 00:42:02,085 We didn't really start it, did we? 441 00:42:55,845 --> 00:42:57,325 Well, Eddie? 442 00:43:01,045 --> 00:43:03,125 Are you sure you want to hear this? 443 00:43:03,125 --> 00:43:06,805 Don't use my feelings as an excuse to get out of this. 444 00:43:08,045 --> 00:43:10,125 I know you think I kept it from you 445 00:43:10,125 --> 00:43:12,805 and I refused to say anything out of spite, but... 446 00:43:13,805 --> 00:43:16,805 ..the truth is, I didn't even tell my best friend, 447 00:43:16,805 --> 00:43:20,765 and I'd have gotten out a lot sooner if... You got out pretty bloody quick as it was. 448 00:43:20,765 --> 00:43:23,285 You're not supposed to interrupt. Fuck you! 449 00:43:23,285 --> 00:43:26,045 All I'm saying is, I didn't keep quiet to hurt you. 450 00:43:27,045 --> 00:43:28,525 It was for... 451 00:43:30,525 --> 00:43:32,365 It was for safety. 452 00:43:38,285 --> 00:43:42,045 You have to tell me everything right now. 453 00:43:43,285 --> 00:43:47,285 The first thing he said to the last thing he saw. 454 00:43:48,285 --> 00:43:49,965 Everything. 455 00:43:59,045 --> 00:44:01,845 I was staying with this woman my dad knew. 456 00:44:02,845 --> 00:44:05,285 I hadn't been back in a couple of days but... 457 00:44:06,285 --> 00:44:10,525 ..no-one had bothered so I spent half that day here. 458 00:44:13,045 --> 00:44:16,525 I picked up a piece of glass off a broken bottle and I was just... 459 00:44:17,805 --> 00:44:19,805 ..cutting myself. 460 00:44:21,285 --> 00:44:23,365 I couldn't really feel it. 461 00:44:24,805 --> 00:44:26,805 Like I wasn't really here. 462 00:44:29,045 --> 00:44:31,805 I was looking for somewhere to be invisible. 463 00:44:33,045 --> 00:44:34,805 Not for a victim. 464 00:44:36,045 --> 00:44:37,885 I didn't choose Liam. 465 00:44:44,805 --> 00:44:47,725 So you didn't take him from the shops? 466 00:44:48,725 --> 00:44:50,805 I don't know where he came from. 467 00:44:52,525 --> 00:44:54,285 I didn't choose him. 468 00:44:58,285 --> 00:45:00,285 So he could have been anyone? 469 00:45:06,525 --> 00:45:08,045 No. 470 00:45:11,285 --> 00:45:13,525 I saw him walking there. 471 00:45:14,805 --> 00:45:18,325 He was holding something in his hand like it was treasure. 472 00:45:20,285 --> 00:45:23,285 He just stopped dead and stared straight at me. 473 00:45:24,525 --> 00:45:26,805 It was a packet of football stickers. 474 00:45:29,045 --> 00:45:32,285 He started walking towards me and he could see the blood on my arm. 475 00:45:32,285 --> 00:45:34,205 He should have run a mile! 476 00:45:34,205 --> 00:45:35,805 But he didn't. 477 00:45:37,525 --> 00:45:40,285 He just stood where you're standing now and he said, 478 00:45:40,285 --> 00:45:42,125 "Are you all right?" 479 00:45:43,805 --> 00:45:46,045 "Leave me alone!" I said. 480 00:45:47,525 --> 00:45:49,285 But he doesn't. 481 00:45:52,045 --> 00:45:54,045 He was so small. 482 00:45:56,525 --> 00:45:58,045 Vulnerable. 483 00:46:02,525 --> 00:46:04,685 "Shall I get someone?" he says. 484 00:46:05,685 --> 00:46:07,805 And I can feel it. 485 00:46:07,805 --> 00:46:10,285 The anger's starting to build up. 486 00:46:13,285 --> 00:46:15,525 "Leave me alone," I say again. 487 00:46:16,805 --> 00:46:18,805 He just moves closer... 488 00:46:21,525 --> 00:46:23,045 ..and said... 489 00:46:24,805 --> 00:46:27,805 .."My mum's a nurse. I can get her." 490 00:46:30,805 --> 00:46:32,525 He said that? 491 00:46:33,525 --> 00:46:35,885 He said you could help me. 492 00:46:38,525 --> 00:46:41,605 You have to tell me the exact words he used. 493 00:46:41,605 --> 00:46:43,285 All of them. 494 00:46:49,525 --> 00:46:51,725 He said, "My mum's a nurse. 495 00:46:51,725 --> 00:46:53,805 "She can help you. 496 00:46:53,805 --> 00:46:55,805 "She helps anyone." 497 00:47:08,525 --> 00:47:11,805 I stand up and I've still got the piece of glass in my hand. 498 00:47:14,045 --> 00:47:17,285 I shout at him then, "Fuck off, will you?!" 499 00:47:19,525 --> 00:47:21,365 But he doesn't go. 500 00:47:22,525 --> 00:47:24,525 He just looks scared. 501 00:47:26,805 --> 00:47:29,525 He says, "You won't get into trouble." 502 00:47:31,805 --> 00:47:35,525 I don't understand why he didn't just go. 503 00:47:38,805 --> 00:47:41,805 He's looking right in my eyes but why didn't he just go? 504 00:47:41,805 --> 00:47:43,605 Why didn't he go?! 505 00:47:56,805 --> 00:47:59,445 I've waited so long to see you suffer. 506 00:48:08,285 --> 00:48:09,885 Then what? 507 00:48:11,525 --> 00:48:13,365 Then what, Eddie? 508 00:48:14,525 --> 00:48:16,285 I stabbed him. 509 00:48:21,045 --> 00:48:22,605 Where? 510 00:48:24,525 --> 00:48:26,445 In the neck. 511 00:48:29,525 --> 00:48:31,205 How many times? 512 00:48:31,205 --> 00:48:32,445 Twice. 513 00:48:33,445 --> 00:48:35,045 Three times. 514 00:48:37,285 --> 00:48:39,045 And then he just... 515 00:48:40,525 --> 00:48:41,925 ..sat down... 516 00:48:42,925 --> 00:48:44,525 ..surprised. 517 00:48:47,525 --> 00:48:50,805 He tried to say something but I just kept stabbing. 518 00:48:50,805 --> 00:48:53,085 What was he saying? 519 00:48:54,525 --> 00:48:56,205 I...I don't know. 520 00:48:56,205 --> 00:48:58,205 Yes, you do. I don't remember. 521 00:48:59,205 --> 00:49:00,845 What did he say? 522 00:49:01,845 --> 00:49:03,525 Say it! 523 00:49:04,525 --> 00:49:05,885 Say it! 524 00:49:05,885 --> 00:49:07,685 He called for you. 525 00:49:09,805 --> 00:49:11,805 And his dad too. 526 00:49:24,805 --> 00:49:28,045 I promised Liam I wouldn't cry in front of you. 527 00:49:30,285 --> 00:49:32,365 I've let him down again. 528 00:49:56,525 --> 00:49:58,525 Then what did you do? 529 00:50:00,525 --> 00:50:02,525 I didn't know what to do. 530 00:50:03,525 --> 00:50:05,445 I was covered in blood. 531 00:50:06,445 --> 00:50:07,965 So I ran. 532 00:50:09,285 --> 00:50:11,285 What? I ran. 533 00:50:13,805 --> 00:50:15,565 You left him here? 534 00:50:15,565 --> 00:50:17,605 But as I was running, I thought, 535 00:50:17,605 --> 00:50:20,445 "If I hide him properly, no-one will know." 536 00:50:20,445 --> 00:50:23,445 How long for? They said I tortured him and I didn't. 537 00:50:23,445 --> 00:50:26,045 How long?! I don't know. Ten minutes? 538 00:50:26,045 --> 00:50:30,245 But when I came back, he hadn't moved at all. He had to be dead. 539 00:50:33,045 --> 00:50:34,965 But you didn't check? 540 00:50:41,285 --> 00:50:43,045 You didn't check. 541 00:50:59,805 --> 00:51:02,005 There were other injuries. 542 00:51:02,005 --> 00:51:05,165 I had to get it off the path and down the bank. Him! 543 00:51:06,165 --> 00:51:09,525 I had to get him down the hill but he was dead. 544 00:51:11,805 --> 00:51:13,165 You... 545 00:51:14,165 --> 00:51:17,805 ..threw bricks and rubbish all over him. 546 00:51:17,805 --> 00:51:19,805 I was trying to hide it. 547 00:51:19,805 --> 00:51:21,285 Him! 548 00:51:21,285 --> 00:51:22,805 Him. 549 00:51:24,525 --> 00:51:26,045 Him. 550 00:51:29,045 --> 00:51:30,805 He was dead. 551 00:51:34,805 --> 00:51:36,565 I promise you. 552 00:51:50,165 --> 00:51:53,285 They told me I'd have to forgive myself! 553 00:51:55,285 --> 00:51:57,965 Like it's a decision I can make. 554 00:51:59,805 --> 00:52:01,525 I couldn't do it. 555 00:52:06,805 --> 00:52:09,525 But I can't live with this 556 00:52:09,525 --> 00:52:11,805 every minute of every day. 557 00:52:13,805 --> 00:52:15,525 So how do I go on? 558 00:52:21,045 --> 00:52:23,805 I know I can't ever make it right. 559 00:52:24,805 --> 00:52:27,125 I knew that straight away. 560 00:52:27,125 --> 00:52:29,805 That it would never go away. 561 00:52:29,805 --> 00:52:33,805 And every time I caught myself smiling... 562 00:52:35,285 --> 00:52:37,885 ..watching Jess in her school play, 563 00:52:37,885 --> 00:52:40,525 laughing at something on the TV, 564 00:52:40,525 --> 00:52:42,725 I'd remember what I did... 565 00:52:43,725 --> 00:52:46,285 ..and I've got no right to be happy. 566 00:52:48,285 --> 00:52:50,285 Not even for a minute. 567 00:52:55,285 --> 00:52:58,805 I asked them after the sentencing to speak to you 568 00:52:58,805 --> 00:53:02,045 so I could apologise but they said it wasn't allowed 569 00:53:02,045 --> 00:53:05,005 and you wouldn't accept it anyway. 570 00:53:06,005 --> 00:53:10,285 And after time, I realised how small it is, that word. 571 00:53:13,045 --> 00:53:14,885 It just got smaller. 572 00:53:15,885 --> 00:53:18,325 And what I did kept on getting bigger. 573 00:53:23,805 --> 00:53:28,285 There's not much that can really be said in the end, is there? 574 00:53:31,285 --> 00:53:33,445 But I am, Anna. 575 00:53:36,805 --> 00:53:39,805 I am so sorry. 576 00:53:51,525 --> 00:53:53,445 I'm Eddie. 577 00:53:54,805 --> 00:53:57,445 There was nothing that you could have done. 578 00:53:59,525 --> 00:54:02,285 I'm the only one that could have stopped it. 579 00:55:12,805 --> 00:55:14,965 He wanted to be big. 40515

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