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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,866 --> 00:00:03,000 Major support for "The Vietnam War" 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,500 was provided by members of The Better Angels Society, 3 00:00:06,500 --> 00:00:10,465 including Jonathan and Jeannie Lavine, 4 00:00:10,465 --> 00:00:13,365 Diane and Hal Brierley, 5 00:00:13,365 --> 00:00:15,766 Amy and David Abrams, 6 00:00:15,766 --> 00:00:18,265 John and Catherine Debs, 7 00:00:18,265 --> 00:00:21,166 the Fullerton Family Charitable Fund, 8 00:00:21,166 --> 00:00:23,233 the Montrone Ffamily, 9 00:00:23,233 --> 00:00:25,565 Lynda and Stewart Resnick, 10 00:00:25,565 --> 00:00:28,332 the Perry and Donna Golkin Family Foundation, 11 00:00:28,332 --> 00:00:29,332 the Lynch Foundation, 12 00:00:29,332 --> 00:00:32,200 the Roger and Rosemary Enrico Foundation, 13 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,633 and by these additional funders. 14 00:00:35,633 --> 00:00:37,533 Major funding was also provided 15 00:00:37,533 --> 00:00:39,265 by David H. Koch... 16 00:00:41,566 --> 00:00:43,765 The Blavatnik Family Foundation... 17 00:00:46,100 --> 00:00:48,533 The Park Foundation, 18 00:00:48,533 --> 00:00:50,700 the National Endowment for the Humanities, 19 00:00:50,700 --> 00:00:52,899 the Pew Charitable Trusts, 20 00:00:52,899 --> 00:00:55,566 the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation, 21 00:00:55,566 --> 00:00:58,332 the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation, 22 00:00:58,332 --> 00:01:01,000 the Arthur Vining Davis Foundations, 23 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,200 the Ford Foundation JustFilms, 24 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,632 by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, 25 00:01:05,632 --> 00:01:07,599 and by viewers like you. 26 00:01:07,599 --> 00:01:08,733 Thank you. 27 00:01:13,266 --> 00:01:15,400 Bank of America proudly supports 28 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:20,299 Ken Burns' and Lynn Novick's film "The Vietnam War" 29 00:01:20,299 --> 00:01:22,700 because fostering different perspectives 30 00:01:22,700 --> 00:01:25,299 and civil discourse around important issues 31 00:01:25,299 --> 00:01:27,599 furthers progress, equality, 32 00:01:27,599 --> 00:01:29,599 and a more connected society. 33 00:01:34,066 --> 00:01:38,099 Go to bankofamerica.com/ betterconnected to learn more. 34 00:02:09,467 --> 00:02:12,368 Well, I wanted to name him after his dad, 35 00:02:12,370 --> 00:02:14,637 Denton Winslow Crocker. 36 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,374 So that was the name we chose. 37 00:02:18,376 --> 00:02:20,810 He was a colicky little baby. 38 00:02:20,812 --> 00:02:24,814 And, uh, so we were up night and day with him. 39 00:02:24,816 --> 00:02:28,118 And my husband was a wonderful dad 40 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,453 and very loving and attentive. 41 00:02:30,455 --> 00:02:32,455 He'd walk the floor with him. 42 00:02:32,457 --> 00:02:36,325 And then he said one day, "He's a regular little mogul 43 00:02:36,327 --> 00:02:39,494 the way he rules our lives." 44 00:02:39,496 --> 00:02:41,764 So that's where the name came from. 45 00:02:41,766 --> 00:02:43,431 We called him Mogie. 46 00:02:44,533 --> 00:02:47,970 Mogie Crocker was born June 3, 1947, 47 00:02:47,972 --> 00:02:50,505 the oldest of four children. 48 00:02:50,507 --> 00:02:52,407 His father was a biology teacher, 49 00:02:52,409 --> 00:02:55,644 and Mogie was raised in college towns: 50 00:02:55,646 --> 00:03:00,015 Ithaca, Amherst, and finally Saratoga Springs, 51 00:03:00,017 --> 00:03:04,820 to which the family moved in 1960, when he was 13. 52 00:03:04,822 --> 00:03:08,791 My mother read books to all of us. 53 00:03:08,793 --> 00:03:11,126 My brother was definitely the one 54 00:03:11,128 --> 00:03:13,828 who probably gravitated towards them more than I did. 55 00:03:13,830 --> 00:03:16,030 He really feasted on books. 56 00:03:16,032 --> 00:03:18,900 Mogie was an unusual boy. 57 00:03:18,902 --> 00:03:22,336 Intelligent, independent-minded, and too nearsighted 58 00:03:22,338 --> 00:03:24,571 to do well at team sports, 59 00:03:24,573 --> 00:03:28,442 he loved books about American history and American heroes. 60 00:03:28,444 --> 00:03:31,045 At 12, he started a diary 61 00:03:31,047 --> 00:03:34,182 in which he kept track of Cold War events. 62 00:03:34,184 --> 00:03:36,617 "I hate Reds!" he wrote, 63 00:03:36,619 --> 00:03:39,420 and he admired most those who had proved willing 64 00:03:39,422 --> 00:03:43,357 to sacrifice themselves for a cause. 65 00:03:43,359 --> 00:03:46,327 President John F. Kennedy's call for every American 66 00:03:46,329 --> 00:03:50,063 to ask what he or she could do for their country 67 00:03:50,065 --> 00:03:54,734 had mirrored ideas he'd held since he was a small boy. 68 00:03:54,736 --> 00:03:57,904 One evening when I was reading to Denton 69 00:03:57,906 --> 00:04:03,710 before he went to sleep, I chose a passage from Henry V, 70 00:04:03,712 --> 00:04:09,049 which is, "He today that sheds his blood with me 71 00:04:09,051 --> 00:04:11,284 shall be my brother. 72 00:04:11,286 --> 00:04:16,256 And gentlemen in England now a-bed 73 00:04:16,258 --> 00:04:18,892 shall think themselves accurs'd 74 00:04:18,894 --> 00:04:23,095 they were not here and hold their manhood cheap 75 00:04:23,097 --> 00:04:28,067 while any speaks that fought with us upon St. Crispin's Day." 76 00:04:33,074 --> 00:04:35,374 I think that it was that sort of thing 77 00:04:35,376 --> 00:04:37,409 that made Denton want to be 78 00:04:37,411 --> 00:04:43,115 part of something important and brave. 79 00:04:58,999 --> 00:05:00,367 I just stayed awake last night 80 00:05:00,368 --> 00:05:01,567 thinking about this thing. 81 00:05:01,569 --> 00:05:05,304 The more I think of it, I don't know what in the hell... 82 00:05:05,306 --> 00:05:07,739 it looks like to me we're getting into another Korea. 83 00:05:07,741 --> 00:05:09,541 It just worries the hell out of me. 84 00:05:09,543 --> 00:05:12,143 I don't see what we can ever hope to get out of there with 85 00:05:12,145 --> 00:05:13,445 once we're committed. 86 00:05:13,447 --> 00:05:15,581 I don't think it's worth fighting for 87 00:05:15,583 --> 00:05:17,115 and I don't think we can get out. 88 00:05:17,117 --> 00:05:18,817 And it's just the biggest damn mess I ever saw. 89 00:05:18,819 --> 00:05:20,485 It is, it's an awful mess. 90 00:05:20,487 --> 00:05:23,354 I just thought about ordering those kids in there, 91 00:05:23,356 --> 00:05:25,190 and what in the hell am I ordering them out there for? 92 00:05:25,192 --> 00:05:26,624 One thing that has occurred to me... 93 00:05:26,626 --> 00:05:28,026 What the hell is Vietnam worth to me? 94 00:05:28,028 --> 00:05:29,894 What is it worth to this country? 95 00:05:29,896 --> 00:05:31,429 Yeah, yeah. 96 00:05:31,431 --> 00:05:33,598 Now, of course, if you start running the communists, 97 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,566 they may just chase you right into your own kitchen. 98 00:05:35,568 --> 00:05:38,336 Yeah. That's the trouble. 99 00:05:38,338 --> 00:05:41,305 And that is what the rest of that half of the world 100 00:05:41,307 --> 00:05:44,843 is going to think if this thing comes apart on us. 101 00:05:44,845 --> 00:05:46,377 It's damned easy to get in a war, 102 00:05:46,379 --> 00:05:47,947 but it's going to be awfully hard to ever extricate yourself 103 00:05:47,981 --> 00:05:49,147 if you get in. 104 00:05:49,149 --> 00:05:50,749 It's very easy... 105 00:05:50,751 --> 00:05:52,183 I'd like to hear Walter and McNamara to evaluate this thing. 106 00:05:52,185 --> 00:05:53,184 To debate it? 107 00:05:53,186 --> 00:05:54,652 Yeah. 108 00:05:54,654 --> 00:05:56,053 All right, what's a possible time... ? 109 00:05:57,990 --> 00:06:01,024 Tragedy had brought Lyndon Johnson to the presidency 110 00:06:01,026 --> 00:06:04,327 in November of 1963. 111 00:06:04,329 --> 00:06:07,097 And he would not feel himself fully in charge 112 00:06:07,099 --> 00:06:11,101 until he had faced the voters the following year. 113 00:06:11,103 --> 00:06:14,604 But his ambitions for his country were as great 114 00:06:14,606 --> 00:06:17,975 as those of his hero, Franklin Roosevelt. 115 00:06:17,977 --> 00:06:20,077 During his years in the White House, 116 00:06:20,079 --> 00:06:22,379 he would lead the struggle to win passage 117 00:06:22,381 --> 00:06:26,549 of more than 200 important pieces of legislation... 118 00:06:26,551 --> 00:06:32,155 the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Voting Rights Act of 1965, 119 00:06:32,157 --> 00:06:36,660 federal aid to education, Head Start, Medicare, 120 00:06:36,662 --> 00:06:39,962 and a whole series of bills aimed at ending poverty 121 00:06:39,964 --> 00:06:43,099 in America, all intended to create 122 00:06:43,101 --> 00:06:46,035 what he called "The Great Society." 123 00:06:46,037 --> 00:06:50,707 In foreign affairs, Johnson was less self-assured. 124 00:06:50,709 --> 00:06:54,711 "Foreigners are not like the folks I'm used to," he once said. 125 00:06:54,713 --> 00:06:57,414 To deal with them, he retained in office 126 00:06:57,416 --> 00:07:00,149 all of John Kennedy's top advisors... 127 00:07:00,151 --> 00:07:02,218 Dean Rusk at State, 128 00:07:02,220 --> 00:07:04,854 Robert McNamara at Defense, 129 00:07:04,856 --> 00:07:08,890 McGeorge Bundy as his National Security Advisor. 130 00:07:08,892 --> 00:07:14,062 "I need you," he told them, more than his predecessor had. 131 00:07:14,064 --> 00:07:15,964 Publicly, Johnson pledged 132 00:07:15,966 --> 00:07:18,467 that "This nation will keep its commitments 133 00:07:18,469 --> 00:07:21,670 from South Vietnam to West Berlin." 134 00:07:21,672 --> 00:07:25,307 But privately, Vietnam filled him with dread. 135 00:07:25,309 --> 00:07:27,743 "It's going to be hell in a handbasket out there," 136 00:07:27,745 --> 00:07:30,713 his ambassador told him. 137 00:07:30,715 --> 00:07:33,949 "I want the South Vietnamese to get off their butts 138 00:07:33,951 --> 00:07:35,751 and get out into those jungles 139 00:07:35,753 --> 00:07:40,088 and whip the hell out of some communists," the president said. 140 00:07:40,090 --> 00:07:42,890 "And then I want 'em to leave me alone, 141 00:07:42,892 --> 00:07:44,992 because I've got some bigger things to do 142 00:07:44,994 --> 00:07:46,894 right here at home." 143 00:07:48,798 --> 00:07:52,166 Johnson had opposed the military coup that had overthrown 144 00:07:52,168 --> 00:07:56,471 and murdered South Vietnamese president Ngo Dinh Diem, 145 00:07:56,473 --> 00:07:59,674 fearing it would make a bad situation worse. 146 00:08:01,511 --> 00:08:03,210 It had. 147 00:08:07,634 --> 00:08:12,403 The National Liberation Front... the Viet Cong... 148 00:08:12,405 --> 00:08:15,539 was making coordinated attacks throughout the countryside, 149 00:08:15,541 --> 00:08:18,808 some 400 of them in just two weeks. 150 00:08:43,768 --> 00:08:46,969 An estimated 40% of the South Vietnamese countryside, 151 00:08:46,971 --> 00:08:49,539 and more than 50% of the people, 152 00:08:49,541 --> 00:08:53,509 were effectively in the hands of the Viet Cong. 153 00:08:53,511 --> 00:08:57,246 And the Vietnamese generals who had overthrown Ngo Dinh Diem 154 00:08:57,248 --> 00:09:01,050 were bickering among themselves. 155 00:09:01,052 --> 00:09:06,155 The assassination of Ngo Dinh Diem set in motion a series of coups. 156 00:09:06,157 --> 00:09:10,460 Each government was less effective than the one before. 157 00:09:10,612 --> 00:09:14,078 In January 1964, 158 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,780 with U.S. encouragement, 159 00:09:15,782 --> 00:09:20,585 General Nguyen Khanh staged yet another coup. 160 00:09:20,587 --> 00:09:25,323 In March, Johnson sent McNamara to Vietnam with instructions 161 00:09:25,325 --> 00:09:28,460 to show the people that Khanh was "our boy." 162 00:09:30,264 --> 00:09:31,219 Johnson said, 163 00:09:31,220 --> 00:09:34,098 "Let's get him out and get him speaking to people, 164 00:09:34,100 --> 00:09:37,802 and let McNamara go with him as well 165 00:09:37,804 --> 00:09:40,272 so that people can see that the United States 166 00:09:40,274 --> 00:09:41,573 is solidly behind this man." 167 00:09:41,575 --> 00:09:44,909 We fully support the people of South Vietnam. 168 00:09:56,689 --> 00:10:03,494 When Khanh gave a tedious, long, laborious speech ending up with, 169 00:10:03,496 --> 00:10:06,297 "Vietnam , Vietnam , 170 00:10:06,299 --> 00:10:08,032 Vietnam a thousand years." 171 00:10:08,034 --> 00:10:11,402 McNamara leaned over to the microphone and said... 172 00:10:20,780 --> 00:10:22,279 What he was saying was something like, 173 00:10:22,281 --> 00:10:25,949 "The little duck, he wants to lie down." 174 00:10:27,286 --> 00:10:30,621 He wasn't aware of the tonal difference. 175 00:10:30,623 --> 00:10:36,026 And McNamara grabbed one fist and held them up. 176 00:10:36,028 --> 00:10:37,394 And the crowd practically 177 00:10:37,396 --> 00:10:39,363 disintegrated on the cobblestones. 178 00:10:41,701 --> 00:10:43,534 "No more of this coup shit," 179 00:10:43,536 --> 00:10:46,236 President Johnson told his advisors. 180 00:10:46,238 --> 00:10:50,207 But Khanh, too, lacked popular legitimacy, 181 00:10:50,209 --> 00:10:53,844 and other generals continued to jockey for power. 182 00:10:53,846 --> 00:10:57,380 Washington turned a deaf ear to Buddhist calls 183 00:10:57,382 --> 00:11:00,050 for the genuinely representative government 184 00:11:00,052 --> 00:11:03,920 they'd hoped they'd get when Diem was overthrown. 185 00:11:03,922 --> 00:11:09,392 Between January 1964 and June of 1965, 186 00:11:09,394 --> 00:11:13,396 there would be eight different governments. 187 00:11:13,398 --> 00:11:15,899 All of their leaders were so close to the Americans 188 00:11:15,901 --> 00:11:18,501 that they were seen as puppets. 189 00:11:20,304 --> 00:11:22,504 One weary Johnson aide suggested 190 00:11:22,506 --> 00:11:25,374 that the national symbol of South Vietnam 191 00:11:25,376 --> 00:11:27,376 should be a turnstile. 192 00:11:27,378 --> 00:11:30,346 These demonstrating students seem to symbolize 193 00:11:30,348 --> 00:11:34,316 the kind of anarchy that is descending on Saigon these days. 194 00:11:34,318 --> 00:11:36,886 This kind of political backbiting is having 195 00:11:36,888 --> 00:11:39,088 serious consequences in the countryside, 196 00:11:39,090 --> 00:11:41,323 for until a strong government begins to function 197 00:11:41,325 --> 00:11:42,858 here in Saigon, 198 00:11:42,860 --> 00:11:44,994 the war against the communists will continue to founder. 199 00:12:23,460 --> 00:12:27,695 Ho Chi Minh was still a beloved figure in North Vietnam, 200 00:12:27,697 --> 00:12:31,632 still concerned that his country remained fragile, 201 00:12:31,634 --> 00:12:35,203 still wary that stepping up the conflict in the South 202 00:12:35,205 --> 00:12:39,373 might force the Americans to take a still more active role. 203 00:12:39,375 --> 00:12:44,679 But Ho now shared power with younger, more impatient leaders. 204 00:12:44,681 --> 00:12:48,616 There had been change and turmoil in North Vietnam, too, 205 00:12:48,618 --> 00:12:52,187 just as there had been in Saigon and Washington, 206 00:12:52,189 --> 00:12:54,923 though Americans knew almost nothing about it. 207 00:13:10,373 --> 00:13:13,040 At the Ninth Party Plenum that began in Hanoi 208 00:13:13,042 --> 00:13:16,577 on November 22, 1963, 209 00:13:16,579 --> 00:13:19,613 the day President Kennedy was killed in Dallas, 210 00:13:19,615 --> 00:13:24,685 the Politburo had argued over how best to proceed in the war. 211 00:13:24,687 --> 00:13:28,155 North Vietnam's two communist patrons, 212 00:13:28,157 --> 00:13:33,861 the Soviet Union and China, were giving them conflicting advice. 213 00:13:48,543 --> 00:13:51,378 In two weeks of sometimes bitter debate, 214 00:13:51,380 --> 00:13:54,313 Ho Chi Minh, who favored the Soviet strategy, 215 00:13:54,315 --> 00:13:58,150 was outmaneuvered by party First Secretary Le Duan, 216 00:13:58,152 --> 00:14:01,688 who sided with the Chinese. 217 00:14:21,509 --> 00:14:24,710 Le Duan believed that with Diem gone, 218 00:14:24,712 --> 00:14:27,013 and the Saigon government in disarray, 219 00:14:27,015 --> 00:14:31,617 it was time to move quickly in 1964. 220 00:14:31,619 --> 00:14:36,855 He proposed a two-phase plan for victory in South Vietnam. 221 00:14:36,857 --> 00:14:39,591 The first phase would destroy ARVN forces 222 00:14:39,593 --> 00:14:42,428 through big, "decisive battles"; 223 00:14:42,430 --> 00:14:46,265 the second, an attack on the cities, Le Duan believed, 224 00:14:46,267 --> 00:14:50,001 would then set off popular revolts within them. 225 00:14:50,003 --> 00:14:52,203 Party leaders and others 226 00:14:52,205 --> 00:14:54,839 suspected of having opposed the plan 227 00:14:54,841 --> 00:14:58,176 were denounced as "revisionists," demoted, 228 00:14:58,178 --> 00:15:00,611 dismissed, imprisoned. 229 00:15:00,613 --> 00:15:04,215 Hundreds were sent to "re-education camps." 230 00:15:04,217 --> 00:15:09,321 "Uncle Ho wavers," Le Duan said, "but I have only one goal... 231 00:15:09,323 --> 00:15:10,956 final victory." 232 00:15:13,626 --> 00:15:15,393 Secretary McNamara on line 0. 233 00:15:15,395 --> 00:15:16,527 Bob? 234 00:15:16,529 --> 00:15:18,129 Yes, Mr. President? 235 00:15:18,131 --> 00:15:19,564 I hate to bother you, but... 236 00:15:19,566 --> 00:15:20,565 No trouble at all. 237 00:15:20,567 --> 00:15:22,366 Tell me, have we got anybody 238 00:15:22,368 --> 00:15:25,269 that's got a military mind that can give us some military plans 239 00:15:25,271 --> 00:15:26,971 for winning that war? 240 00:15:26,973 --> 00:15:29,039 Let's get some more of something, my friend, 241 00:15:29,041 --> 00:15:30,607 because I'm going to have a heart attack 242 00:15:30,609 --> 00:15:31,875 if you don't get me something. 243 00:15:31,877 --> 00:15:34,011 We need somebody over there that can get us 244 00:15:34,013 --> 00:15:35,545 some better plans than we got, 245 00:15:35,547 --> 00:15:38,515 because what we got is what we've had since '54. 246 00:15:38,517 --> 00:15:40,150 We're not getting it done. 247 00:15:40,152 --> 00:15:41,751 We're-we're losing. 248 00:15:41,753 --> 00:15:43,820 Well, it's one reason I want to go back. 249 00:15:43,822 --> 00:15:45,055 Kick 'em in the tail a little bit 250 00:15:45,057 --> 00:15:46,190 will help here at this point. 251 00:15:46,192 --> 00:15:47,391 Yeah. 252 00:15:47,393 --> 00:15:49,593 What I want is somebody to lay up some plans 253 00:15:49,595 --> 00:15:52,596 to trap these guys and whup hell out of 'em. 254 00:15:52,598 --> 00:15:53,864 Kill some of 'em. 255 00:15:53,866 --> 00:15:55,665 That's what I want to do. 256 00:15:55,667 --> 00:15:57,733 I'll try and bring something back 257 00:15:57,735 --> 00:15:58,734 that will meet that objective. 258 00:15:58,736 --> 00:16:00,169 Okay, Bob. 259 00:16:00,171 --> 00:16:01,170 Thank you. 260 00:16:03,975 --> 00:16:06,909 When his counselors urged him to do so, 261 00:16:06,911 --> 00:16:11,214 Johnson increased the number of American military personnel 262 00:16:11,216 --> 00:16:16,285 from 16,000 to more than 23,000 by the end of the year. 263 00:16:16,287 --> 00:16:19,355 But he wanted his own team in Saigon. 264 00:16:19,357 --> 00:16:21,957 He replaced Henry Cabot Lodge, 265 00:16:21,959 --> 00:16:25,561 making General Maxwell Taylor his ambassador, 266 00:16:25,563 --> 00:16:30,465 and selected 49-year-old General William Westmoreland, 267 00:16:30,467 --> 00:16:34,269 a decorated commander from WWII and Korea, 268 00:16:34,271 --> 00:16:37,272 to lead the American military effort. 269 00:16:37,274 --> 00:16:41,610 The president hoped to force Hanoi to abandon its support 270 00:16:41,612 --> 00:16:43,779 for the guerrilla struggle in the South 271 00:16:43,781 --> 00:16:47,816 by gradually escalating military pressure. 272 00:16:47,818 --> 00:16:52,354 He authorized American pilots to bomb North Vietnamese troops 273 00:16:52,356 --> 00:16:57,026 and installations in the neighboring country of Laos. 274 00:16:57,028 --> 00:16:58,994 And he directed the military 275 00:16:58,996 --> 00:17:01,296 to oversee South Vietnamese shelling 276 00:17:01,298 --> 00:17:06,868 of North Vietnamese islands and raids on coastal bases. 277 00:17:06,870 --> 00:17:10,471 All of it was to be conducted in secret. 278 00:17:10,473 --> 00:17:13,074 The American people were not to be told. 279 00:17:13,076 --> 00:17:16,477 It was an election year. 280 00:17:16,479 --> 00:17:20,281 Meanwhile, the Joint Chiefs of Staff felt strongly 281 00:17:20,283 --> 00:17:21,883 that the United States was fighting 282 00:17:21,885 --> 00:17:23,751 on the enemy's terms 283 00:17:23,753 --> 00:17:27,622 and urged far more drastic and dramatic action... 284 00:17:27,624 --> 00:17:32,060 air strikes against "critical targets" in North Vietnam itself 285 00:17:32,062 --> 00:17:36,330 and the deployment of U.S. forces in South Vietnam... 286 00:17:36,332 --> 00:17:38,299 boots on the ground. 287 00:17:38,301 --> 00:17:42,536 Johnson refused, fearing that such aggressive moves 288 00:17:42,538 --> 00:17:44,871 would pull China into the conflict 289 00:17:44,873 --> 00:17:49,510 just as it had entered the Korean War in 1950. 290 00:17:50,679 --> 00:17:51,912 They say get in or get out. 291 00:17:51,914 --> 00:17:52,846 Yeah. 292 00:17:52,848 --> 00:17:54,281 And I told them, 293 00:17:54,283 --> 00:17:56,484 we haven't got any Congress that will go with us, 294 00:17:56,486 --> 00:17:58,885 and we haven't got any mothers that will go with us 295 00:17:58,887 --> 00:18:00,921 in the war, and I got to win an election 296 00:18:00,923 --> 00:18:04,825 and then you can make a decision. 297 00:18:06,909 --> 00:18:08,609 Polls showed him with a commanding lead 298 00:18:08,611 --> 00:18:10,810 over his likely Republican opponent, 299 00:18:10,812 --> 00:18:14,547 Senator Barry F. Goldwater of Arizona, 300 00:18:14,549 --> 00:18:18,251 a blunt, uncompromising critic of what he charged 301 00:18:18,253 --> 00:18:20,487 was the administration's weakness 302 00:18:20,489 --> 00:18:23,223 in the face of communist aggression. 303 00:18:23,225 --> 00:18:25,392 Why does he put off facing the question 304 00:18:25,394 --> 00:18:28,528 of what to do about Vietnam? 305 00:18:28,530 --> 00:18:31,864 Does he hope that he can wait until after the election 306 00:18:31,866 --> 00:18:34,534 to confront the American public with the... 307 00:18:34,536 --> 00:18:35,560 Here were these communists 308 00:18:35,561 --> 00:18:37,937 who were overrunning Southeast Asia 309 00:18:37,939 --> 00:18:41,174 and Johnson's doing nothing about it. 310 00:18:41,176 --> 00:18:42,509 My opponent has not told you 311 00:18:42,511 --> 00:18:44,076 what he plans to do about the Cold War. 312 00:18:44,078 --> 00:18:47,346 I rode around the back of a flatbed truck in Perkasie 313 00:18:47,348 --> 00:18:49,281 with a bunch of my classmates 314 00:18:49,283 --> 00:18:51,651 singing Barry Goldwater campaign songs 315 00:18:51,653 --> 00:18:54,921 because Lyndon Johnson was not tough enough 316 00:18:54,923 --> 00:18:56,422 on those communists. 317 00:18:59,027 --> 00:19:02,161 Johnson felt he did not yet have the political capital 318 00:19:02,163 --> 00:19:06,899 to take further action in Vietnam, but he asked his aide, 319 00:19:06,901 --> 00:19:10,736 William Bundy, to draft a Congressional resolution 320 00:19:10,738 --> 00:19:13,839 authorizing him to use force if needed 321 00:19:13,841 --> 00:19:16,976 to be sent to Capitol Hill when the time was right. 322 00:19:20,948 --> 00:19:25,417 On July 30, 1964, South Vietnamese ships 323 00:19:25,419 --> 00:19:28,153 under the direction of the U.S. military 324 00:19:28,155 --> 00:19:33,492 shelled two North Vietnamese islands in the Gulf of Tonkin. 325 00:19:33,494 --> 00:19:38,464 The tiny North Vietnamese Navy was put on high alert. 326 00:19:38,466 --> 00:19:41,533 What followed was one of the most controversial 327 00:19:41,535 --> 00:19:45,003 and consequential events in American history. 328 00:19:45,005 --> 00:19:47,939 On the afternoon of August 2, 329 00:19:47,941 --> 00:19:51,477 the destroyer U.S.S. Maddox was moving slowly 330 00:19:51,479 --> 00:19:53,878 through international waters in the gulf 331 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,682 on an intelligence-gathering mission in support 332 00:19:57,684 --> 00:20:01,620 of further South Vietnamese action against the North. 333 00:20:01,622 --> 00:20:06,057 The commander of a North Vietnamese torpedo-boat squadron 334 00:20:06,059 --> 00:20:08,760 moved to attack the Maddox. 335 00:20:08,762 --> 00:20:13,732 The Americans opened fire and missed. 336 00:20:13,734 --> 00:20:17,736 North Vietnamese torpedoes also missed. 337 00:20:17,738 --> 00:20:21,606 But carrier-based U.S. planes damaged 338 00:20:21,608 --> 00:20:23,642 two of the North Vietnamese boats 339 00:20:23,644 --> 00:20:26,778 and left a third dead in the water. 340 00:20:26,780 --> 00:20:31,282 Ho Chi Minh was shocked to hear of his navy's attack 341 00:20:31,284 --> 00:20:34,852 and demanded to know who had ordered it. 342 00:20:34,854 --> 00:20:37,522 The officer on duty was officially reprimanded 343 00:20:37,524 --> 00:20:39,624 for impulsiveness. 344 00:20:39,626 --> 00:20:44,295 No one may ever know who gave the order to attack. 345 00:20:44,297 --> 00:20:48,232 To this day, even the Vietnamese cannot agree. 346 00:20:48,234 --> 00:20:52,069 But some believe it was Le Duan. 347 00:21:37,381 --> 00:21:38,614 Back in Washington, 348 00:21:38,616 --> 00:21:41,617 the Joint Chiefs urged immediate retaliation 349 00:21:41,619 --> 00:21:43,485 against North Vietnam. 350 00:21:43,487 --> 00:21:46,322 The president refused. 351 00:21:46,324 --> 00:21:48,957 Instead, the White House issued a warning 352 00:21:48,959 --> 00:21:52,094 about the "grave consequences" that would follow 353 00:21:52,096 --> 00:21:55,864 what it called "any further unprovoked" attacks... 354 00:21:55,866 --> 00:22:00,102 even though Johnson knew the attack had been provoked 355 00:22:00,104 --> 00:22:04,806 by the South Vietnamese raids on North Vietnam's islands. 356 00:22:04,808 --> 00:22:08,744 Both sides were playing a dangerous game. 357 00:22:08,746 --> 00:22:13,681 On August 4, American radio operators mistranslated 358 00:22:13,683 --> 00:22:15,516 North Vietnamese radio traffic 359 00:22:15,518 --> 00:22:21,422 and concluded a new military operation was imminent. 360 00:22:21,424 --> 00:22:23,591 Actually, Hanoi had simply called upon 361 00:22:23,593 --> 00:22:27,662 torpedo boat commanders to be ready for a new raid 362 00:22:27,664 --> 00:22:30,331 by the South Vietnamese. 363 00:22:30,833 --> 00:22:34,936 The Maddox and another destroyer, the Turner Joy, 364 00:22:34,938 --> 00:22:38,039 braced for a fresh attack. 365 00:22:38,041 --> 00:22:39,841 So did the White House. 366 00:22:39,843 --> 00:22:41,542 Go ahead, Mac. 367 00:22:41,544 --> 00:22:44,112 I... I personally would recommend to you, 368 00:22:44,114 --> 00:22:46,080 after a second attack on our ships, 369 00:22:46,082 --> 00:22:49,850 that we do retaliate against the coast of North Vietnam 370 00:22:49,852 --> 00:22:51,485 some way or other... 371 00:22:51,487 --> 00:22:55,122 What I was thinking about when I was eating breakfast: 372 00:22:55,124 --> 00:22:57,925 when they move on us and they shoot at us, 373 00:22:57,927 --> 00:22:59,593 I think we not only ought to shoot at them, 374 00:22:59,595 --> 00:23:02,062 but almost simultaneously pull one of these things 375 00:23:02,064 --> 00:23:04,064 that you've been doing on one of their bridges or something. 376 00:23:04,066 --> 00:23:05,332 Exactly. 377 00:23:05,334 --> 00:23:07,134 I quite agree with you, Mr. President. 378 00:23:07,136 --> 00:23:08,702 But I wish we could have something 379 00:23:08,704 --> 00:23:10,637 that we've already picked out, 380 00:23:10,639 --> 00:23:14,241 and just hit about three of them damn quick, right after. 381 00:23:14,743 --> 00:23:17,644 No second attack ever happened, 382 00:23:17,646 --> 00:23:22,015 but at the time, anxious American sonar operators 383 00:23:22,017 --> 00:23:26,787 aboard the Maddox and Turner Joy convinced themselves one had. 384 00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:31,558 The attack was probable but not certain, Johnson was told, 385 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,695 and since it had probably occurred, 386 00:23:34,697 --> 00:23:38,598 the president decided it should not go unanswered. 387 00:23:41,203 --> 00:23:44,604 Aggression by terror against the peaceful villagers 388 00:23:44,606 --> 00:23:49,142 of South Vietnam has now been joined by open aggression 389 00:23:49,144 --> 00:23:53,346 on the high seas against the United States of America. 390 00:23:53,348 --> 00:23:57,216 Yet our response, for the present, 391 00:23:57,218 --> 00:23:59,819 will be limited and fitting. 392 00:23:59,821 --> 00:24:05,290 We Americans know, although others appear to forget, 393 00:24:05,292 --> 00:24:08,026 the risk of spreading conflict. 394 00:24:08,028 --> 00:24:13,733 We still seek no wider war. 395 00:24:13,735 --> 00:24:17,102 If that came to be where we would be called upon 396 00:24:17,104 --> 00:24:20,105 to carry out our responsibilities, 397 00:24:20,107 --> 00:24:22,808 and having been well trained for this, 398 00:24:22,810 --> 00:24:24,443 I never really gave it much thought. 399 00:24:24,445 --> 00:24:26,879 It was part of my duty. 400 00:24:26,881 --> 00:24:30,482 Lieutenant Everett Alvarez from Salinas, California, 401 00:24:30,484 --> 00:24:34,186 was aboard the U.S.S. carrier Constellation. 402 00:24:34,188 --> 00:24:37,856 His squadron of Skyhawk A-4 planes 403 00:24:37,858 --> 00:24:40,525 was ordered to attack torpedo boat installations 404 00:24:40,527 --> 00:24:45,197 and oil facilities near the port of Hon Gai. 405 00:24:45,199 --> 00:24:49,902 For the first time, American pilots were going to drop bombs 406 00:24:49,904 --> 00:24:51,836 on North Vietnam. 407 00:24:53,274 --> 00:24:54,572 When we approached the target 408 00:24:54,574 --> 00:24:56,375 coming down from altitude, 409 00:24:56,377 --> 00:24:59,511 it was obvious that they could pick us up on their radar. 410 00:24:59,513 --> 00:25:02,146 I remember my knees shaking. 411 00:25:02,148 --> 00:25:04,848 And I was saying, "Holy smokes, I'm going into war." 412 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,852 "This is war." 413 00:25:10,089 --> 00:25:11,889 I was a bit scared. 414 00:25:11,891 --> 00:25:16,660 Once we went in and they started firing at us, 415 00:25:16,662 --> 00:25:19,096 the fear went away. 416 00:25:19,098 --> 00:25:23,834 Everything became smooth, deathly quiet in the cockpit. 417 00:25:23,836 --> 00:25:26,737 It was sort of like a symphony 418 00:25:26,739 --> 00:25:32,243 in the sense that my plane was just like a ballet in the sky, 419 00:25:32,245 --> 00:25:35,612 and I was just performing what I was doing. 420 00:25:37,950 --> 00:25:39,149 And then I got hit. 421 00:25:39,151 --> 00:25:40,283 Mayday, Mayday. 422 00:25:41,770 --> 00:25:45,572 Coastal militiamen captured Alvarez 423 00:25:45,574 --> 00:25:48,108 and turned him over to the North Vietnamese military. 424 00:25:48,110 --> 00:25:51,476 One fella was yelling at me 425 00:25:51,477 --> 00:25:53,847 in Vietnamese and saying something. 426 00:25:53,849 --> 00:25:56,650 I started talking to him in Spanish. 427 00:25:56,852 --> 00:25:58,919 Don't ask me why. 428 00:25:58,921 --> 00:26:01,755 It seemed like a good idea at the time. 429 00:26:03,632 --> 00:26:08,835 After when they discovered U.S.A. on my ID card 430 00:26:08,837 --> 00:26:13,939 and then they started speaking to me in English. 431 00:26:13,941 --> 00:26:18,143 Alvarez assumed he would be treated as a prisoner of war. 432 00:26:18,145 --> 00:26:20,446 I was sticking to the code of conduct, 433 00:26:20,448 --> 00:26:22,749 which is giving them name, rank, service number, 434 00:26:22,751 --> 00:26:23,850 and date of birth. 435 00:26:25,587 --> 00:26:29,622 But they quickly reminded me that there was no state of war, 436 00:26:29,624 --> 00:26:32,392 no declaration of war. 437 00:26:32,394 --> 00:26:35,928 So I could not be considered a prisoner of war. 438 00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:39,098 I recall thinking about it, 439 00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:40,799 and I says, "You know what? 440 00:26:40,801 --> 00:26:42,401 They're right." 441 00:26:42,703 --> 00:26:45,737 Everett Alvarez was the first American airman 442 00:26:45,739 --> 00:26:49,173 to be shot out of the sky over North Vietnam 443 00:26:49,175 --> 00:26:51,710 and the first to be imprisoned there. 444 00:26:54,448 --> 00:26:56,848 Now, the president sent up to Capitol Hill 445 00:26:56,850 --> 00:27:00,519 the resolution he had asked his aide William Bundy to draft 446 00:27:00,521 --> 00:27:03,154 two months earlier. 447 00:27:03,156 --> 00:27:07,058 Johnson is sort of prepositioned to move anyway, 448 00:27:07,060 --> 00:27:10,862 and it gives him really the incident that he needs 449 00:27:10,864 --> 00:27:13,565 to go to Congress and ask for a resolution 450 00:27:13,567 --> 00:27:15,634 that will allow him to deal with what he sees 451 00:27:15,636 --> 00:27:17,501 as aggression in Vietnam. 452 00:27:17,503 --> 00:27:19,937 And what he gets is the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, 453 00:27:19,939 --> 00:27:23,607 which is, what he says, like "Grandma's nightshirt"... 454 00:27:23,609 --> 00:27:25,208 it covers everything. 455 00:27:25,210 --> 00:27:29,613 I think what Johnson is looking for is the opportunity, 456 00:27:29,615 --> 00:27:33,584 the right time to send a message to North Vietnam 457 00:27:33,586 --> 00:27:37,655 that we're serious about supporting South Vietnam. 458 00:27:37,657 --> 00:27:39,857 That message is sent, 459 00:27:39,859 --> 00:27:41,759 I think we misread the enemy 460 00:27:41,761 --> 00:27:43,828 because they're just as serious as we are. 461 00:27:45,397 --> 00:27:48,532 On August 7, 1964, 462 00:27:48,534 --> 00:27:52,335 by a vote of 88-2, the Senate passed 463 00:27:52,337 --> 00:27:56,506 what came to be called the Tonkin Gulf Resolution. 464 00:27:56,508 --> 00:28:00,844 In the House, not a single congressman opposed it. 465 00:28:00,846 --> 00:28:04,714 Senator Goldwater could no longer plausibly claim 466 00:28:04,716 --> 00:28:06,883 Johnson was failing to fight back 467 00:28:06,885 --> 00:28:10,720 against North Vietnam, while those voters concerned 468 00:28:10,722 --> 00:28:12,789 that the United States was in danger 469 00:28:12,791 --> 00:28:15,291 of becoming too deeply involved 470 00:28:15,293 --> 00:28:19,295 admired the president's measured response. 471 00:28:19,297 --> 00:28:23,032 Support for Johnson's handling of the war jumped overnight 472 00:28:23,034 --> 00:28:26,668 from 42% to 72%. 473 00:28:26,670 --> 00:28:29,505 The American public believed their president. 474 00:28:30,841 --> 00:28:34,510 Le Duan and his comrades in Hanoi did not. 475 00:28:34,512 --> 00:28:37,212 They had little faith in the president's claim 476 00:28:37,214 --> 00:28:39,381 that he sought no wider war. 477 00:28:39,383 --> 00:28:42,317 They resolved to step up their efforts 478 00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:43,986 to win the struggle in the South 479 00:28:43,988 --> 00:28:47,088 before the United States escalated its presence 480 00:28:47,090 --> 00:28:49,224 by sending in combat troops. 481 00:28:50,628 --> 00:28:52,761 For the first time, 482 00:28:52,763 --> 00:28:55,463 Hanoi began sending North Vietnamese regulars 483 00:28:55,465 --> 00:28:58,233 into the South, down the network of paths 484 00:28:58,235 --> 00:29:01,469 they had hacked out of the Laotian jungle... 485 00:29:01,471 --> 00:29:03,338 the Ho Chi Minh Trail. 486 00:29:04,844 --> 00:29:06,677 This is Bien Hoa Air Base, 487 00:29:06,679 --> 00:29:08,379 the biggest in South Vietnam, 488 00:29:08,381 --> 00:29:12,183 hours after being hit by a communist mortar barrage. 489 00:29:12,185 --> 00:29:15,286 On November 1, Viet Cong guerrillas shelled 490 00:29:15,288 --> 00:29:19,424 the American airbase at Bien Hoa near Saigon. 491 00:29:19,426 --> 00:29:21,826 Five Americans died. 492 00:29:21,828 --> 00:29:23,995 Thirty were wounded. 493 00:29:23,997 --> 00:29:28,198 Five B-57 bombers were destroyed on the ground 494 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,267 and 15 more were damaged. 495 00:29:30,269 --> 00:29:32,102 Mr. Ambassador, 496 00:29:32,104 --> 00:29:34,271 do you think this shows any new capability 497 00:29:34,273 --> 00:29:36,473 that they've got, the Viet Cong? 498 00:29:36,475 --> 00:29:38,609 Uh, I would simply say they've never done this before. 499 00:29:41,547 --> 00:29:44,080 The Joint Chiefs advised the president to mount 500 00:29:44,082 --> 00:29:48,619 an immediate all-out air attack on 94 targets in the North 501 00:29:48,621 --> 00:29:51,921 and to send in regular Army and Marine units... 502 00:29:51,923 --> 00:29:55,959 not more advisors... to South Vietnam as well. 503 00:29:55,961 --> 00:29:57,494 He would not do it. 504 00:29:57,496 --> 00:29:59,829 The election was just two days away. 505 00:30:02,368 --> 00:30:06,536 Lyndon Baines Johnson won the presidency in his own right, 506 00:30:06,538 --> 00:30:08,404 and he won it by a landslide. 507 00:30:10,475 --> 00:30:12,908 Within a month, the president would approve 508 00:30:12,910 --> 00:30:15,645 what was called a "graduated response"... 509 00:30:15,647 --> 00:30:19,582 limited air attacks on the Ho Chi Minh Trail in Laos 510 00:30:19,584 --> 00:30:22,652 and "tit for tat" retaliatory raids 511 00:30:22,654 --> 00:30:25,721 on North Vietnamese targets. 512 00:30:25,723 --> 00:30:29,725 But he refused to undertake sustained bombing of the North 513 00:30:29,727 --> 00:30:33,596 until the South Vietnamese got their own house in order. 514 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,869 In private, Johnson doubted that airpower alone would ever work 515 00:30:40,871 --> 00:30:44,807 and believed that he would eventually have to send in ground troops, 516 00:30:44,809 --> 00:30:48,177 though he was not yet willing publicly to say so. 517 00:30:54,508 --> 00:30:58,310 In the fall of '64, Denton was 17 518 00:30:58,312 --> 00:31:02,681 and he was determined to go into the service. 519 00:31:02,683 --> 00:31:06,584 Mogie Crocker had been restless since the summer. 520 00:31:06,586 --> 00:31:09,788 After the Gulf of Tonkin incident, he had confided 521 00:31:09,790 --> 00:31:12,424 to his sister that he wanted to join the Navy, 522 00:31:12,426 --> 00:31:16,027 but he knew his parents would not sign the consent form 523 00:31:16,029 --> 00:31:20,664 that would have allowed a 17-year-old to enlist. 524 00:31:20,666 --> 00:31:24,501 He was talking about wanting to go into the service 525 00:31:24,503 --> 00:31:27,038 and that his attempts to go underage had failed. 526 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,574 And that he wanted my parents to support him in that. 527 00:31:30,576 --> 00:31:33,077 His parents tried to persuade him 528 00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:35,213 that he could be more useful to his country 529 00:31:35,215 --> 00:31:39,851 with a college education than as just another private. 530 00:31:39,853 --> 00:31:42,854 Mogie was adamant. 531 00:31:42,856 --> 00:31:46,357 Monday morning he left for school. 532 00:31:46,359 --> 00:31:49,192 And I watched him leave. 533 00:31:49,194 --> 00:31:51,194 But that night he didn't come in for supper 534 00:31:51,196 --> 00:31:52,463 and he hadn't called. 535 00:31:52,465 --> 00:31:55,932 The day that my brother ran away has to be 536 00:31:55,934 --> 00:32:00,303 one of the most bizarre experiences in my life. 537 00:32:00,305 --> 00:32:03,474 I eventually happened to look in my piggy bank 538 00:32:03,476 --> 00:32:07,143 and he had taken the money I had and left a note for me. 539 00:32:07,145 --> 00:32:09,913 He had promised he would pay me back. 540 00:32:09,915 --> 00:32:12,716 He was gone about four months 541 00:32:12,718 --> 00:32:16,086 and said that he would not come home 542 00:32:16,088 --> 00:32:18,689 unless we agreed to sign for him. 543 00:32:18,691 --> 00:32:23,026 And he wouldn't be 18 until June. 544 00:32:23,028 --> 00:32:26,496 But we did agree and he did come home. 545 00:32:26,498 --> 00:32:31,133 My husband felt it was an honor-bound agreement. 546 00:32:31,135 --> 00:32:34,003 I was hoping that I could change his mind. 547 00:32:39,176 --> 00:32:42,945 To my mind, the Marine Corps represented the very best. 548 00:32:42,947 --> 00:32:44,414 And it does. 549 00:32:44,416 --> 00:32:47,049 They are the best. 550 00:32:47,051 --> 00:32:49,519 And I wanted to be part of the best. 551 00:32:49,521 --> 00:32:51,253 I was competitive. 552 00:32:51,255 --> 00:32:52,522 I was pugnacious. 553 00:32:52,524 --> 00:32:54,657 But I wanted to get in the Marine Corps 554 00:32:54,659 --> 00:32:57,393 and go to the first war I could find. 555 00:32:57,395 --> 00:33:00,695 Lieutenant Philip Brady, from Port Washington, New York, 556 00:33:00,697 --> 00:33:03,432 arrived in Saigon just a few days 557 00:33:03,434 --> 00:33:05,834 after Lyndon Johnson's election, 558 00:33:05,836 --> 00:33:08,537 one of the new advisors sent to help shore up 559 00:33:08,539 --> 00:33:11,506 the South Vietnamese military. 560 00:33:11,508 --> 00:33:15,945 We must ensure that women and children are not injured. 561 00:33:15,947 --> 00:33:19,281 General Westmoreland himself greeted the newcomers. 562 00:33:19,283 --> 00:33:23,285 He was an impressive-looking man with an impressive record. 563 00:33:23,287 --> 00:33:27,589 Many of the men he'd led in Tunisia, Sicily, and Normandy 564 00:33:27,591 --> 00:33:31,360 during World War II called him Superman. 565 00:33:31,362 --> 00:33:33,595 He'd fought with distinction in Korea, 566 00:33:33,597 --> 00:33:36,465 commanded the 101st Airborne, 567 00:33:36,467 --> 00:33:39,300 served as superintendent of West Point. 568 00:33:39,302 --> 00:33:40,769 TIME magazine called him 569 00:33:40,771 --> 00:33:45,206 "the sinewy personification of the American fighting man." 570 00:33:45,208 --> 00:33:46,508 But at the same time, 571 00:33:46,510 --> 00:33:48,677 win the hearts and the minds of the people. 572 00:33:48,679 --> 00:33:51,346 General Westmoreland told us that we were down 573 00:33:51,348 --> 00:33:54,082 on the five-yard line and we just needed a few more 574 00:33:54,084 --> 00:33:58,186 to go get the touchdown. 575 00:33:58,188 --> 00:34:01,289 Then I went out and then I got on the ground. 576 00:34:01,291 --> 00:34:03,925 And then I found out, "Don't you realize? 577 00:34:03,927 --> 00:34:06,427 We're losing this war." 578 00:34:06,429 --> 00:34:11,064 Lieutenant Brady was assigned to assist Captain Frank Eller, 579 00:34:11,066 --> 00:34:13,433 senior advisor to the 4th Battalion 580 00:34:13,435 --> 00:34:16,737 of the Vietnamese Marine Corps, an elite unit 581 00:34:16,739 --> 00:34:21,074 whose members called themselves the "Killer Sharks." 582 00:34:21,076 --> 00:34:24,912 You were told that you were going over there to guide, 583 00:34:24,914 --> 00:34:29,116 educate, and elevate essentially these "little fellas" 584 00:34:29,118 --> 00:34:31,284 on how to fight a war 585 00:34:31,286 --> 00:34:34,421 when, in fact, they knew exactly how to fight the war. 586 00:34:34,423 --> 00:34:36,724 You were just an appendage. 587 00:34:36,726 --> 00:34:40,427 You were there simply to guide assets that they didn't have: 588 00:34:40,429 --> 00:34:44,898 American artillery, American air strikes. 589 00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:47,567 Brady did his best to get to know 590 00:34:47,569 --> 00:34:49,569 the South Vietnamese marines in his unit. 591 00:35:17,431 --> 00:35:20,866 Lieutenant Tran Ngoc Toan, the son of a trucker, 592 00:35:20,868 --> 00:35:23,269 had escaped life with a hostile stepmother 593 00:35:23,271 --> 00:35:27,973 by entering the South Vietnamese Military Academy at Dalat. 594 00:35:27,975 --> 00:35:32,478 He'd been fighting the Viet Cong for more than two years. 595 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,845 Toan was one of the junior officers. 596 00:35:33,847 --> 00:35:35,381 I think he was a... 597 00:35:35,383 --> 00:35:36,715 I think he was a company commander. 598 00:35:36,717 --> 00:35:39,085 I knew him, I liked him. 599 00:35:39,087 --> 00:35:42,254 He was a Dalat graduate, which is like their West Point. 600 00:35:42,256 --> 00:35:43,922 Very dedicated. 601 00:35:54,167 --> 00:35:58,803 Brady, Toan, and the 4th South Vietnamese Marine Battalion 602 00:35:58,805 --> 00:36:02,073 were stationed near the Bien Hoa Airbase in reserve, 603 00:36:02,075 --> 00:36:05,977 waiting to be called into action. 604 00:36:05,979 --> 00:36:07,912 There were new rumors now, 605 00:36:07,914 --> 00:36:12,584 of larger enemy units moving through the countryside. 606 00:36:12,586 --> 00:36:17,155 Le Duan's plan to win a quick and decisive victory was underway. 607 00:37:15,781 --> 00:37:18,348 Nguyen Van Tong was a political officer 608 00:37:18,350 --> 00:37:21,518 in the newly created Viet Cong 9th Division, 609 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,556 one of perhaps 2,000 Viet Cong and North Vietnamese troops 610 00:37:25,558 --> 00:37:30,359 who had for weeks been quietly filtering into Phuoc Tuy, 611 00:37:30,361 --> 00:37:32,562 a supposedly "pacified" province 612 00:37:32,564 --> 00:37:35,731 less than 40 miles southeast of Saigon. 613 00:37:57,054 --> 00:38:00,355 The target for Tong and his comrades 614 00:38:00,357 --> 00:38:03,225 was the strategic hamlet of Binh Gia, 615 00:38:03,227 --> 00:38:07,429 home to some 6,000 Catholic anticommunist refugees. 616 00:38:09,266 --> 00:38:12,066 Their plan was to seize the hamlet 617 00:38:12,068 --> 00:38:15,837 and then annihilate the forces Saigon was sure to send 618 00:38:15,839 --> 00:38:17,439 to retake it. 619 00:38:17,441 --> 00:38:19,974 To ensure success, 620 00:38:19,976 --> 00:38:23,378 tons of heavy weapons were smuggled onto the coast 621 00:38:23,380 --> 00:38:25,413 under cover of darkness... 622 00:38:25,415 --> 00:38:28,583 mortars, machine guns, recoilless rifles 623 00:38:28,585 --> 00:38:31,620 capable of blasting tanks. 624 00:38:31,622 --> 00:38:34,255 The communists had never attempted 625 00:38:34,257 --> 00:38:37,224 anything on this scale before. 626 00:38:37,226 --> 00:38:40,594 Before dawn on December 28, 627 00:38:40,596 --> 00:38:44,732 Viet Cong advance units easily overwhelmed the village militia 628 00:38:44,734 --> 00:38:46,567 and occupied Binh Gia. 629 00:38:49,405 --> 00:38:52,506 When two crack South Vietnamese Ranger companies 630 00:38:52,508 --> 00:38:54,742 were helicoptered in the next day, 631 00:38:54,744 --> 00:38:58,746 they were ambushed and shot to pieces. 632 00:38:58,748 --> 00:39:01,214 On the morning of the 30th, 633 00:39:01,216 --> 00:39:04,518 Philip Brady, his friend Tran Ngoc Toan, 634 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,421 and the 4th Marine Battalion were flown in to relieve 635 00:39:08,423 --> 00:39:11,157 and reinforce the Rangers. 636 00:39:11,159 --> 00:39:14,427 The enemy withdrew east of the village. 637 00:39:44,291 --> 00:39:48,794 All of a sudden you could see the tracers come out 638 00:39:48,796 --> 00:39:52,364 of the plantation, hit the helicopter, it crashed. 639 00:39:52,366 --> 00:39:55,434 We were ordered to go down and retrieve the remains 640 00:39:55,436 --> 00:39:57,135 the following morning. 641 00:40:31,637 --> 00:40:34,205 The lead company got to the remains 642 00:40:34,207 --> 00:40:38,076 and then was pounced on and mauled badly. 643 00:40:42,448 --> 00:40:45,917 Twelve South Vietnamese Marines from Toan's unit were killed 644 00:40:45,919 --> 00:40:48,452 getting to the downed helicopter. 645 00:40:48,454 --> 00:40:50,287 Their comrades wrapped them in ponchos 646 00:40:50,289 --> 00:40:54,625 and laid them out next to the dead Americans. 647 00:40:54,627 --> 00:40:57,495 An American chopper dropped into the clearing. 648 00:40:57,497 --> 00:41:00,063 The American crew jumped out under fire, 649 00:41:00,065 --> 00:41:02,266 picked up the four Americans, 650 00:41:02,268 --> 00:41:05,770 climbed back into their chopper, and took off again. 651 00:41:17,116 --> 00:41:22,386 For three hours, Toan and his men stayed with their own dead 652 00:41:22,388 --> 00:41:26,356 waiting for a helicopter to carry them off the battlefield. 653 00:41:28,427 --> 00:41:31,694 Meanwhile, I am getting a little bit antsy 654 00:41:31,696 --> 00:41:34,097 because, first of all, we're losing light. 655 00:41:34,099 --> 00:41:37,801 Second of all, we are now outside of artillery range. 656 00:41:37,803 --> 00:41:40,237 We've got to get out of there. 657 00:41:50,649 --> 00:41:53,783 I went to the Major Nho, his name was, and I said, 658 00:41:53,785 --> 00:41:57,019 "Major, we have to get out of here now." 659 00:41:57,021 --> 00:42:01,457 And Nho said, "Don't you forget I am a major, 660 00:42:01,459 --> 00:42:02,591 and you are a lieutenant," 661 00:42:02,593 --> 00:42:05,828 turned on his heel and walked away. 662 00:42:05,830 --> 00:42:09,999 Ten minutes later all hell broke loose. 663 00:42:30,421 --> 00:42:33,355 The shelling eventually died down. 664 00:42:33,357 --> 00:42:35,924 But then bugles blew, 665 00:42:35,926 --> 00:42:38,527 and wave after wave of enemy troops 666 00:42:38,529 --> 00:42:40,496 advanced toward the badly outnumbered men. 667 00:42:44,101 --> 00:42:47,268 It was as if you turned a soundtrack of shooting... 668 00:42:50,808 --> 00:42:52,908 And just went... 669 00:42:52,910 --> 00:42:54,142 Just like that. 670 00:42:54,144 --> 00:42:55,644 All of a sudden it came out of nowhere. 671 00:42:59,517 --> 00:43:02,817 We used what little air strikes we had left with helicopters, 672 00:43:02,819 --> 00:43:07,087 calling in the strikes on our position to slow it down. 673 00:43:07,089 --> 00:43:10,290 There was no way. 674 00:43:47,796 --> 00:43:50,797 What we did was we tried to get out. 675 00:43:50,799 --> 00:43:53,833 Twenty-six of us broke through. 676 00:43:53,835 --> 00:43:56,670 Eleven ultimately made it. 677 00:43:57,773 --> 00:43:59,073 All that night, 678 00:43:59,075 --> 00:44:01,175 the Viet Cong moved among the trees, 679 00:44:01,177 --> 00:44:03,077 carrying away their wounded 680 00:44:03,079 --> 00:44:06,012 and shooting any South Vietnamese troops 681 00:44:06,014 --> 00:44:08,315 they found alive. 682 00:44:34,909 --> 00:44:37,076 Cradling his rifle in his arms, 683 00:44:37,078 --> 00:44:40,713 Toan began trying to crawl toward Binh Gia. 684 00:44:40,715 --> 00:44:43,816 He was not found for three days. 685 00:45:17,051 --> 00:45:21,653 When it was all over, five Americans had died at Binh Gia. 686 00:45:21,655 --> 00:45:26,658 Thirty-two Viet Cong bodies had been left on the battlefield. 687 00:45:26,660 --> 00:45:30,227 200 South Vietnamese were killed; 688 00:45:30,229 --> 00:45:34,899 200 more were wounded. 689 00:45:49,783 --> 00:45:52,583 What it really said was 690 00:45:52,585 --> 00:45:56,987 they were capable of marshaling this kind of force. 691 00:45:56,989 --> 00:45:59,190 The Vietnamese officers I talked to in the Marine Corps 692 00:45:59,192 --> 00:46:01,825 figured they had six months before the end. 693 00:46:01,827 --> 00:46:05,462 The big question after Binh Gia, 694 00:46:05,464 --> 00:46:07,831 an American officer at headquarters said, 695 00:46:07,833 --> 00:46:10,901 is how a thousand or more enemy troops 696 00:46:10,903 --> 00:46:14,405 could wander around the countryside so close to Saigon 697 00:46:14,407 --> 00:46:16,407 without being discovered. 698 00:46:16,409 --> 00:46:21,345 That tells you something about this war." 699 00:46:21,347 --> 00:46:23,880 Hanoi was exultant. 700 00:46:23,882 --> 00:46:27,084 Ho Chi Minh called it "a little Dien Bien Phu." 701 00:46:27,086 --> 00:46:31,588 Le Duan was convinced his strategy was working. 702 00:46:31,590 --> 00:46:34,991 "The liberation war of South Vietnam has progressed 703 00:46:34,993 --> 00:46:37,627 by leaps and bounds," he said. 704 00:46:37,629 --> 00:46:41,164 "After the battle of Ap Bac two years ago, 705 00:46:41,166 --> 00:46:45,068 the enemy knew it would be difficult to defeat us. 706 00:46:45,070 --> 00:46:48,071 After Binh Gia, the enemy realizes 707 00:46:48,073 --> 00:46:53,143 that he is in the process of being defeated by us." 708 00:47:07,658 --> 00:47:08,991 I, Lyndon Baines Johnson, 709 00:47:08,993 --> 00:47:11,093 do solemnly swear... 710 00:47:11,095 --> 00:47:14,463 Twenty-six days after the Binh Gia battle ended 711 00:47:14,465 --> 00:47:17,767 and just a week after President Johnson's inauguration, 712 00:47:17,769 --> 00:47:21,170 McGeorge Bundy handed the president a memorandum. 713 00:47:21,172 --> 00:47:23,372 I will to the best of my ability. 714 00:47:23,374 --> 00:47:27,176 The current strategy was clearly not working, it said. 715 00:47:27,178 --> 00:47:30,679 The Viet Cong were on the move and on the rise, 716 00:47:30,681 --> 00:47:34,250 supplied and now steadily reinforced 717 00:47:34,252 --> 00:47:37,086 with soldiers from North Vietnam. 718 00:47:37,088 --> 00:47:41,790 If an independent South Vietnam was to survive, 719 00:47:41,792 --> 00:47:45,026 the United States needed to act fast. 720 00:47:45,028 --> 00:47:48,997 The administration faced two choices, Bundy said. 721 00:47:48,999 --> 00:47:51,599 It could go along as it had been going 722 00:47:51,601 --> 00:47:55,636 and try to negotiate some kind of face-saving settlement. 723 00:47:55,638 --> 00:48:00,541 Or they could use still more American military power 724 00:48:00,543 --> 00:48:04,245 to force the North to abandon its goal of uniting the country. 725 00:48:04,247 --> 00:48:08,516 Bundy and McNamara favored that option. 726 00:48:08,518 --> 00:48:11,385 Unless the president chose it, they said, 727 00:48:11,387 --> 00:48:13,453 South Vietnam would fall. 728 00:48:13,455 --> 00:48:17,257 "I don't think anything," Johnson told McNamara, 729 00:48:17,259 --> 00:48:19,860 "is going to be as bad as losing." 730 00:48:24,934 --> 00:48:27,500 Then, a little over a week later, 731 00:48:27,502 --> 00:48:31,071 guerrillas struck an American helicopter base at Pleiku 732 00:48:31,073 --> 00:48:33,040 in the Central Highlands, 733 00:48:33,042 --> 00:48:37,811 killing eight American advisors and wounding over 100 more. 734 00:48:37,813 --> 00:48:39,880 Approximately 24 hours ago, 735 00:48:39,882 --> 00:48:42,415 the first attack in the Pleiku area... 736 00:48:42,417 --> 00:48:45,085 Johnson immediately approved an air strike 737 00:48:45,087 --> 00:48:47,620 on a North Vietnamese army barracks. 738 00:48:48,990 --> 00:48:52,559 On February 10, 1965, 739 00:48:52,561 --> 00:48:55,795 the Viet Cong blew up a hotel in Qui Nhon, 740 00:48:55,797 --> 00:49:02,301 killing 23 Americans and pinning 21 more beneath the rubble. 741 00:49:02,303 --> 00:49:05,805 Johnson ordered another airstrike. 742 00:49:05,807 --> 00:49:09,208 Anxiety about what seemed to be happening 743 00:49:09,210 --> 00:49:11,911 spread around the world. 744 00:49:11,913 --> 00:49:14,848 France, which had spent nearly a century in Vietnam, 745 00:49:14,850 --> 00:49:19,185 now called for an end to all foreign involvement there. 746 00:49:19,187 --> 00:49:22,821 The British prime minister urged restraint. 747 00:49:22,823 --> 00:49:26,525 Many leaders of the president's own party agreed, 748 00:49:26,527 --> 00:49:29,095 though not in public. 749 00:49:29,097 --> 00:49:31,330 In a private memorandum, 750 00:49:31,332 --> 00:49:34,033 Johnson's own vice president, Hubert Humphrey, 751 00:49:34,035 --> 00:49:37,436 warned him that widening the war would undercut 752 00:49:37,438 --> 00:49:42,174 the Great Society, damage America's image overseas, 753 00:49:42,176 --> 00:49:46,445 and end any hope of improving relations with the Soviet Union. 754 00:49:47,882 --> 00:49:50,316 Johnson never responded. 755 00:49:50,318 --> 00:49:53,485 Instead, on March 2, 1965, 756 00:49:53,487 --> 00:49:57,088 the United States began a systematic bombardment 757 00:49:57,090 --> 00:49:59,157 of targets in North Vietnam, 758 00:49:59,159 --> 00:50:02,894 code-named Operation Rolling Thunder. 759 00:50:05,065 --> 00:50:08,166 It was meant to be a "mounting crescendo" of air raids, 760 00:50:08,168 --> 00:50:09,867 Ambassador Taylor wrote, 761 00:50:09,869 --> 00:50:12,938 intended to bolster morale in the South 762 00:50:12,940 --> 00:50:17,842 and destroy morale in the North. 763 00:50:17,844 --> 00:50:20,878 The thesis behind Rolling Thunder, 764 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:26,617 as I understood it, was that as we ratcheted up the tempo 765 00:50:26,619 --> 00:50:31,288 and the volume of this effort against the North Vietnamese, 766 00:50:31,290 --> 00:50:34,024 sooner or later they would cry uncle. 767 00:50:36,829 --> 00:50:39,696 And there'd be a pause, 768 00:50:39,698 --> 00:50:44,268 and we would begin to negotiate our way out of this situation. 769 00:50:44,270 --> 00:50:47,237 This became an article of faith. 770 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,008 And this article of faith was a fallacious assumption. 771 00:50:51,010 --> 00:50:53,610 They weren't going to give up. 772 00:50:53,612 --> 00:50:58,015 They read us better than we read them. 773 00:50:58,017 --> 00:51:01,952 The president insisted on strict secrecy... 774 00:51:01,954 --> 00:51:05,254 the American people were not to be told 775 00:51:05,256 --> 00:51:08,658 that the administration had changed its policy 776 00:51:08,660 --> 00:51:12,562 from retaliatory airstrikes to systematic bombing; 777 00:51:12,564 --> 00:51:15,866 that he had, in fact, widened the war. 778 00:51:15,868 --> 00:51:19,603 They jointly agreed that joint retaliatory action 779 00:51:19,605 --> 00:51:21,304 was required. 780 00:51:21,306 --> 00:51:25,108 General Westmoreland, who had initially been hesitant 781 00:51:25,110 --> 00:51:27,878 about committing ground troops to Vietnam, 782 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,549 now asked for two battalions of Marines... 3,500 men... 783 00:51:32,551 --> 00:51:35,051 to protect the Danang airbase 784 00:51:35,053 --> 00:51:38,588 from which fighter-bombers were hitting the North. 785 00:51:38,590 --> 00:51:42,591 Ambassador Taylor, who had once called for ground troops, 786 00:51:42,593 --> 00:51:45,327 now objected to the whole idea. 787 00:51:45,329 --> 00:51:48,864 "Once you put that first soldier ashore," he wrote, 788 00:51:48,866 --> 00:51:52,902 "you never know how many others are going to follow him." 789 00:51:52,904 --> 00:51:56,872 But the president felt he had no choice but to give Westmoreland 790 00:51:56,874 --> 00:51:59,074 what he asked for. 791 00:51:59,076 --> 00:52:04,046 He knew he would be blamed if more American advisors died. 792 00:52:04,048 --> 00:52:08,050 "I feel like a jackass caught in a Texas hailstorm," 793 00:52:08,052 --> 00:52:09,718 he complained. 794 00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:14,924 "I can't run, I can't hide, and I can't make it stop." 795 00:52:16,325 --> 00:52:18,426 In March of 1965, 796 00:52:18,428 --> 00:52:23,565 Johnson finally took the action he had managed to avoid for so long. 797 00:52:25,835 --> 00:52:28,636 He was putting American ground troops in Vietnam. 798 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,082 The government of South Vietnam was not even consulted; 799 00:52:41,084 --> 00:52:45,352 the United States of America had larger considerations. 800 00:52:47,724 --> 00:52:52,193 Clearly, we saw it in terms of the Cold War. 801 00:52:52,195 --> 00:52:56,297 Assistant Secretary of Defense John McNaughton said... 802 00:52:56,299 --> 00:52:58,232 He said our interests there 803 00:52:58,234 --> 00:53:03,370 were 70% to avoid humiliation, 804 00:53:03,372 --> 00:53:07,274 20% to contain China, 805 00:53:07,276 --> 00:53:10,478 and ten percent to help the Vietnamese. 806 00:53:13,015 --> 00:53:15,749 Johnson quietly told his good friend 807 00:53:15,751 --> 00:53:17,951 Senator Richard Russell of Georgia 808 00:53:17,953 --> 00:53:20,488 what was about to happen. 809 00:53:20,490 --> 00:53:23,223 I guess we got no choice, but it scares the death out of me. 810 00:53:23,225 --> 00:53:24,591 I think everybody's going to think, 811 00:53:24,593 --> 00:53:26,159 "We're landing the Marines. 812 00:53:26,161 --> 00:53:27,995 We're off to battle." 813 00:53:27,997 --> 00:53:29,596 Of course, if they come up there, 814 00:53:29,598 --> 00:53:30,831 they're going to get them in a fight. 815 00:53:30,833 --> 00:53:32,332 And if they ruin those airplanes, 816 00:53:32,334 --> 00:53:34,400 everybody is going to give me hell for not securing them, 817 00:53:34,402 --> 00:53:36,202 just like they did last time they made a raid. 818 00:53:36,204 --> 00:53:37,671 Yeah. 819 00:53:37,673 --> 00:53:38,905 What do you... what do you think? 820 00:53:38,907 --> 00:53:40,641 Well, Mr. President, 821 00:53:40,643 --> 00:53:41,875 it scares the life out of me. 822 00:53:41,877 --> 00:53:43,376 But I don't know how to back up now. 823 00:53:43,378 --> 00:53:45,612 It looks to me like we just got in this thing, 824 00:53:45,614 --> 00:53:46,847 and there's no way out. 825 00:53:46,849 --> 00:53:48,181 I don't know. 826 00:53:48,183 --> 00:53:51,184 Dick, the great trouble I'm under... 827 00:53:51,186 --> 00:53:54,254 A man can fight if he can see daylight 828 00:53:54,256 --> 00:53:55,989 down the road somewhere. 829 00:53:55,991 --> 00:53:57,890 But there ain't no daylight in Vietnam. 830 00:53:57,892 --> 00:53:59,692 There's not a bit. 831 00:54:02,396 --> 00:54:06,298 On March 8, 1965, Dr. Phan Huy Quat, 832 00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:09,434 yet another prime minister of South Vietnam, 833 00:54:09,436 --> 00:54:13,338 called his chief of staff, Bui Diem. 834 00:54:47,140 --> 00:54:49,508 The Marines were landing at Danang 835 00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:53,679 on the east coast of South Vietnam, some 100 miles south 836 00:54:53,681 --> 00:54:55,880 of the demilitarized zone 837 00:54:55,882 --> 00:54:58,983 that divided the North from the South. 838 00:54:58,985 --> 00:55:02,521 They were prepared to fight their way ashore. 839 00:55:02,523 --> 00:55:04,356 They did not need to. 840 00:55:06,260 --> 00:55:07,458 What struck me 841 00:55:07,460 --> 00:55:12,363 was how beautiful Vietnam was to look at. 842 00:55:14,567 --> 00:55:17,702 There were just these endless acres 843 00:55:17,704 --> 00:55:20,070 of these jade-green rice paddies. 844 00:55:20,072 --> 00:55:24,174 And these lovely villages inside these groves 845 00:55:24,176 --> 00:55:26,944 of bamboo and palm trees. 846 00:55:26,946 --> 00:55:32,049 And way off in the distance these bluish jungled mountains, 847 00:55:32,051 --> 00:55:35,386 and they looked like Shangri-La. 848 00:55:35,388 --> 00:55:39,590 And I remember seeing this line of Vietnamese women, 849 00:55:39,592 --> 00:55:41,458 or schoolgirls I think they were. 850 00:55:41,460 --> 00:55:44,661 They actually looked like angels come to earth 851 00:55:44,663 --> 00:55:46,130 or something like that. 852 00:55:46,132 --> 00:55:51,434 So it was really quite striking but a little unsettling 853 00:55:51,436 --> 00:55:52,602 because... 854 00:55:52,604 --> 00:55:54,271 so how can a place like this... 855 00:55:54,273 --> 00:55:57,507 so beautiful and so enchanting... be at war? 856 00:55:59,078 --> 00:56:01,378 My father was very happy. 857 00:56:01,380 --> 00:56:04,414 We're such a small and poor country 858 00:56:04,416 --> 00:56:08,952 and the Americans have decided to come in to save us 859 00:56:08,954 --> 00:56:12,555 not only with their money, their resources, 860 00:56:12,557 --> 00:56:15,524 but even with their own lives. 861 00:56:15,526 --> 00:56:17,393 We were very grateful. 862 00:56:17,395 --> 00:56:18,895 We thought the... 863 00:56:18,897 --> 00:56:21,898 sure enough with this power, the Americans are going to win. 864 00:56:21,900 --> 00:56:25,868 Seeing foreign troops marching past his village, 865 00:56:25,870 --> 00:56:31,607 an old man emerged from his home shouting, "Vivent Les Français!" 866 00:56:31,609 --> 00:56:34,510 He thought the French had returned. 867 00:56:36,014 --> 00:56:37,513 "The problem around here," 868 00:56:37,515 --> 00:56:41,918 a Marine captain leading a patrol told a reporter, 869 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,021 "is who the hell is who?" 870 00:56:45,023 --> 00:56:48,890 As a voting member of Saigon Mission Council, 871 00:56:48,892 --> 00:56:53,161 I was opposed to the entry of American ground combat forces. 872 00:56:55,432 --> 00:56:59,835 I felt if the Vietnamese had to beat them off 873 00:56:59,837 --> 00:57:03,071 with a bloody stump, they had to do it themselves. 874 00:57:03,073 --> 00:57:07,175 We had to do everything we humanly could to help them, 875 00:57:07,177 --> 00:57:09,744 but we could not win it for them. 876 00:57:11,581 --> 00:57:15,383 So, I think we crossed the River Styx at that point. 877 00:57:42,945 --> 00:57:45,679 The first protest I went to against the war in Vietnam 878 00:57:45,681 --> 00:57:49,549 was a protest at a Dow Chemical facility. 879 00:57:52,721 --> 00:57:55,455 Dow was manufacturing napalm. 880 00:57:55,457 --> 00:57:58,624 They were dropping napalm on villages in Vietnam. 881 00:57:58,626 --> 00:58:01,194 It was a very disappointing experience 882 00:58:01,196 --> 00:58:04,297 because only 40 people came. 883 00:58:04,299 --> 00:58:07,000 And we seemed very out of place 884 00:58:07,002 --> 00:58:10,203 and very ineffectual, impotent, 885 00:58:10,205 --> 00:58:14,407 standing outside with 40 people. 886 00:58:14,409 --> 00:58:19,045 Most Americans understood little about Indochina, 887 00:58:19,047 --> 00:58:22,782 rarely knew anyone actually involved in the fighting, 888 00:58:22,784 --> 00:58:26,219 saw no reason to question the government's assertion 889 00:58:26,221 --> 00:58:28,988 that the United States had vital interests 890 00:58:28,990 --> 00:58:31,757 8,000 miles from home. 891 00:58:33,394 --> 00:58:36,561 Still, there was a small but growing number of people 892 00:58:36,563 --> 00:58:40,532 who had begun to oppose the war for any number of reasons... 893 00:58:40,534 --> 00:58:44,970 because they thought it unjust or immoral, 894 00:58:44,972 --> 00:58:47,872 believed it was unconstitutional 895 00:58:47,874 --> 00:58:51,676 or simply not in the national interest. 896 00:58:55,049 --> 00:58:57,950 Two weeks after the Marines landed at Danang, 897 00:58:57,952 --> 00:59:01,853 members of the University of Michigan faculty organized 898 00:59:01,855 --> 00:59:04,789 a night-long discussion between professors 899 00:59:04,791 --> 00:59:10,328 and some 3,000 students about the escalation of the war. 900 00:59:10,330 --> 00:59:12,029 The demonstration was called a teach-in 901 00:59:12,031 --> 00:59:13,931 because the idea originated 902 00:59:13,933 --> 00:59:15,666 with a group of university professors. 903 00:59:15,668 --> 00:59:19,170 What do you hope to accomplish? 904 00:59:19,172 --> 00:59:21,738 I'd like to open up communication between people 905 00:59:21,740 --> 00:59:24,008 and the government because I believe 906 00:59:24,010 --> 00:59:26,043 that they are not telling us what is going on, 907 00:59:26,045 --> 00:59:28,512 and the people have the right to know, and we have the right 908 00:59:28,514 --> 00:59:30,381 to tell the government what we think. 909 00:59:30,383 --> 00:59:35,419 Soon, there were teach-ins on most major university campuses. 910 00:59:35,421 --> 00:59:38,689 There is no morally wonderful way out. 911 00:59:38,691 --> 00:59:43,727 NYU in Manhattan, the University of Wisconsin in Madison, 912 00:59:43,729 --> 00:59:48,465 the University of California in Berkeley. 913 00:59:48,467 --> 00:59:51,702 The teach-ins were really raucous affairs. 914 00:59:51,704 --> 00:59:54,371 A lot of contention. 915 00:59:54,373 --> 00:59:55,839 We want to discuss 916 00:59:55,841 --> 00:59:58,809 is what's wrong with the Vietnam War, and... 917 01:00:02,347 --> 01:00:03,814 Do you endorse 918 01:00:03,816 --> 01:00:05,782 the administration's policy in South Vietnam? 919 01:00:05,784 --> 01:00:07,584 Whole-heartedly. 920 01:00:07,586 --> 01:00:09,052 There were plenty of times 921 01:00:09,054 --> 01:00:10,987 when people who were supportive of the war 922 01:00:10,989 --> 01:00:12,488 came to these teach-ins 923 01:00:12,490 --> 01:00:15,558 to try to give an alternative anticommunist point of view. 924 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,860 They were often shouted down. 925 01:00:19,864 --> 01:00:23,866 The bombing of the North and the Marines' arrival 926 01:00:23,868 --> 01:00:27,904 also drew protestors to Washington that spring. 927 01:00:27,906 --> 01:00:29,672 The demonstration was organized 928 01:00:29,674 --> 01:00:34,577 by the Students for a Democratic Society... the SDS. 929 01:00:34,579 --> 01:00:39,448 I saw SDS calling for a demonstration at the White House 930 01:00:39,450 --> 01:00:42,117 in the spring of 1965. 931 01:00:42,119 --> 01:00:45,320 I didn't want to go because I didn't want to be disappointed 932 01:00:45,322 --> 01:00:46,888 in the same way again and, you know, 933 01:00:46,890 --> 01:00:48,557 go all the way to Washington 934 01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:50,259 and stand outside the White House with 40 people. 935 01:00:51,995 --> 01:00:54,763 25,000 people attended that rally. 936 01:00:57,268 --> 01:00:59,334 And that suddenly told me 937 01:00:59,336 --> 01:01:02,904 and others I was working with at the time 938 01:01:02,906 --> 01:01:06,442 that it might be possible to build an antiwar movement. 939 01:01:11,148 --> 01:01:13,182 It was quite astounding to think 940 01:01:13,184 --> 01:01:15,917 that he had that degree of commitment. 941 01:01:15,919 --> 01:01:18,287 And it made sense 942 01:01:18,289 --> 01:01:23,624 in what we knew of him, as drastic as it was. 943 01:01:25,161 --> 01:01:27,695 Nothing Mogie Crocker's parents could say or do 944 01:01:27,697 --> 01:01:29,830 since Mogie had come home 945 01:01:29,832 --> 01:01:32,433 shook his determination to serve, 946 01:01:32,435 --> 01:01:34,469 and recent developments in Vietnam 947 01:01:34,471 --> 01:01:37,171 had only strengthened his resolve. 948 01:01:37,173 --> 01:01:41,442 He wanted to become a paratrooper and get into combat. 949 01:01:41,444 --> 01:01:43,978 His parents finally, reluctantly, 950 01:01:43,980 --> 01:01:46,947 agreed to let him go, and on March 15, 951 01:01:46,949 --> 01:01:50,784 a week after the first Marines landed at Danang, 952 01:01:50,786 --> 01:01:56,123 Denton Crocker, Jr. entered the United States Army. 953 01:01:56,125 --> 01:01:59,326 So Denton bounced down the steps one morning 954 01:01:59,328 --> 01:02:02,596 and was off to Fort Dix. 955 01:02:02,598 --> 01:02:06,333 It was in a way a sort of relief, actually, 956 01:02:06,335 --> 01:02:09,302 that the conflict and the anxiety 957 01:02:09,304 --> 01:02:12,639 over whether he would or would not go was done. 958 01:02:12,641 --> 01:02:14,207 And he was happy. 959 01:02:14,209 --> 01:02:17,677 And we just tried to believe that this was the right thing 960 01:02:17,679 --> 01:02:19,412 for him to do. 961 01:03:09,897 --> 01:03:13,398 Le Minh Khue was orphaned as a small girl, 962 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,367 her parents victims of the brutal land reforms 963 01:03:16,369 --> 01:03:19,204 the communists had imposed. 964 01:03:19,206 --> 01:03:21,807 She was raised by her aunt and uncle, 965 01:03:21,809 --> 01:03:25,977 who encouraged her to read American literature. 966 01:03:25,979 --> 01:03:30,782 She was 16 when Operation Rolling Thunder began. 967 01:04:06,185 --> 01:04:08,786 Khue was assigned to an organization called 968 01:04:08,788 --> 01:04:11,623 the "Youth Shock Brigades Against the Americans 969 01:04:11,625 --> 01:04:13,724 for National Salvation," 970 01:04:13,726 --> 01:04:17,228 and along with thousands of other young people 971 01:04:17,230 --> 01:04:21,265 was sent south to work keeping open the Ho Chi Minh Trail. 972 01:05:01,072 --> 01:05:03,039 As Johnson had feared, 973 01:05:03,041 --> 01:05:06,777 it quickly became clear that the bombing campaign alone 974 01:05:06,779 --> 01:05:08,645 was not working. 975 01:05:08,647 --> 01:05:12,916 Troops and supplies continued steadily to filter down 976 01:05:12,918 --> 01:05:15,285 the Ho Chi Minh Trail. 977 01:05:15,287 --> 01:05:18,121 General Westmoreland and the Joint Chiefs 978 01:05:18,123 --> 01:05:21,691 called for more men, tens of thousands of them. 979 01:05:21,693 --> 01:05:25,061 The president was cautious. 980 01:05:25,063 --> 01:05:27,931 He wanted to do "enough, but not too much," he said. 981 01:05:27,933 --> 01:05:31,935 But he quietly agreed to send two more Marine battalions 982 01:05:31,937 --> 01:05:37,506 and changed their mission from base security to active combat. 983 01:05:37,508 --> 01:05:38,842 For the first time, 984 01:05:38,844 --> 01:05:41,477 American troops were being asked 985 01:05:41,479 --> 01:05:44,680 to fight on their own in Vietnam. 986 01:05:44,682 --> 01:05:48,117 Johnson did not want that fact revealed 987 01:05:48,119 --> 01:05:50,653 to the American public either. 988 01:05:50,655 --> 01:05:52,555 But the bombing of the North 989 01:05:52,557 --> 01:05:55,123 and rumors of harsher measures to come 990 01:05:55,125 --> 01:05:58,561 had heightened concern around the world. 991 01:05:58,563 --> 01:06:01,296 UN Secretary-General U Thant had proposed 992 01:06:01,298 --> 01:06:03,733 a three-month ceasefire. 993 01:06:03,735 --> 01:06:06,602 Great Britain, America's closest ally, 994 01:06:06,604 --> 01:06:10,406 publicly offered to reconvene the Geneva Talks 995 01:06:10,408 --> 01:06:13,442 that had divided Vietnam in 1954, 996 01:06:13,444 --> 01:06:17,145 with the goal of reuniting it. 997 01:06:17,147 --> 01:06:20,282 The people of South Vietnam be allowed to guide 998 01:06:20,284 --> 01:06:21,817 their own country... 999 01:06:21,819 --> 01:06:25,119 On April 7, at Johns Hopkins University, 1000 01:06:25,121 --> 01:06:27,389 Johnson sought to persuade the world 1001 01:06:27,391 --> 01:06:29,824 of America's good intentions 1002 01:06:29,826 --> 01:06:34,061 and again to calm American fears of a wider war. 1003 01:06:35,866 --> 01:06:39,834 In recent months, attacks on South Vietnam were stepped up. 1004 01:06:39,836 --> 01:06:44,739 Thus, it became necessary for us to increase our response 1005 01:06:44,741 --> 01:06:47,942 and to make attacks by air. 1006 01:06:47,944 --> 01:06:51,713 This is not a change of purpose. 1007 01:06:51,715 --> 01:06:57,318 It is a change in what we believe that purpose requires. 1008 01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:01,121 Nothing was said about the new orders sending Marines 1009 01:07:01,123 --> 01:07:03,857 directly into combat. 1010 01:07:03,859 --> 01:07:08,629 Instead, the president called for "unconditional discussions" 1011 01:07:08,631 --> 01:07:12,098 with Hanoi, and as an old New Dealer, 1012 01:07:12,100 --> 01:07:14,868 proposed a massive development program 1013 01:07:14,870 --> 01:07:17,003 for all of Southeast Asia. 1014 01:07:17,005 --> 01:07:19,640 The vast Mekong River can provide 1015 01:07:19,642 --> 01:07:21,374 food and water and power 1016 01:07:21,376 --> 01:07:24,912 on a scale to dwarf even our own TVA. 1017 01:07:27,082 --> 01:07:29,282 I was outside of the village. 1018 01:07:29,284 --> 01:07:31,617 We're getting some fire from the village. 1019 01:07:31,619 --> 01:07:34,053 I had the little transistor radio. 1020 01:07:34,055 --> 01:07:37,289 And I'm sitting there listening to LBJ. 1021 01:07:37,291 --> 01:07:39,158 ... will use our power with restraint 1022 01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,293 and with all the wisdom... 1023 01:07:41,295 --> 01:07:44,797 At the same time we got to lay some nape on the village. 1024 01:07:44,799 --> 01:07:46,766 So I'm calling in the nape 1025 01:07:46,768 --> 01:07:50,235 and listening to the president talk peace. 1026 01:07:50,237 --> 01:07:53,339 We will try to keep conflict from spreading. 1027 01:07:53,341 --> 01:07:56,108 It was surreal. 1028 01:07:56,110 --> 01:07:58,277 We have no desire to devastate 1029 01:07:58,279 --> 01:08:02,482 that which the people of North Vietnam have built 1030 01:08:02,484 --> 01:08:05,817 with toil and sacrifice. 1031 01:08:05,819 --> 01:08:11,990 This war, like most wars, is filled with terrible irony. 1032 01:08:11,992 --> 01:08:13,692 What do the people of North Vietnam want? 1033 01:08:18,699 --> 01:08:22,834 Hanoi denounced the president's offer as a trick. 1034 01:08:22,836 --> 01:08:25,904 Johnson's advisors and the Joint Chiefs of Staff 1035 01:08:25,906 --> 01:08:30,141 continued to debate how many men would actually be needed 1036 01:08:30,143 --> 01:08:33,678 and how rapidly they should be deployed. 1037 01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:38,082 Meanwhile, the president sent the first Army combat troops 1038 01:08:38,084 --> 01:08:39,350 to the country. 1039 01:08:39,352 --> 01:08:41,719 It was increasingly clear 1040 01:08:41,721 --> 01:08:45,356 that the United States was in it for the long haul. 1041 01:08:49,362 --> 01:08:56,401 You can't just be a neutral witness to something like war. 1042 01:09:04,277 --> 01:09:08,413 It crawls down your throat. 1043 01:09:08,415 --> 01:09:13,351 It eats you alive from the inside and the out. 1044 01:09:17,924 --> 01:09:22,726 It's not something that you can stand back and be neutral 1045 01:09:22,728 --> 01:09:29,099 and objective and all of those things we try to be 1046 01:09:29,101 --> 01:09:32,436 as reporters, journalists, photographers. 1047 01:09:35,207 --> 01:09:37,841 It doesn't work that way. 1048 01:09:40,646 --> 01:09:41,848 ... defense and they're real quick... 1049 01:09:41,849 --> 01:09:44,682 and check it out... 1050 01:09:44,684 --> 01:09:48,351 The growing presence of American combat troops in Vietnam 1051 01:09:48,353 --> 01:09:52,455 attracted flocks of journalists. 1052 01:09:52,457 --> 01:09:54,657 There was no press censorship, 1053 01:09:54,659 --> 01:09:58,160 as there had been in World War II. 1054 01:09:58,162 --> 01:10:02,565 Reporters just had to agree to follow military guidelines 1055 01:10:02,567 --> 01:10:04,934 so as not to compromise the security 1056 01:10:04,936 --> 01:10:07,303 of ongoing operations. 1057 01:10:07,305 --> 01:10:09,739 It was dangerous work. 1058 01:10:09,741 --> 01:10:14,243 More than 200 journalists and photographers would die 1059 01:10:14,245 --> 01:10:17,413 covering the fighting in Southeast Asia. 1060 01:10:17,415 --> 01:10:20,750 Joseph Lee Galloway was a young UPI reporter 1061 01:10:20,752 --> 01:10:24,219 from Refugio, Texas. 1062 01:10:24,221 --> 01:10:27,990 He stopped in Saigon just long enough to get his credentials. 1063 01:10:27,992 --> 01:10:31,159 Then he headed for Danang. 1064 01:10:31,161 --> 01:10:34,462 The Marines originally came ashore there 1065 01:10:34,464 --> 01:10:37,132 to guard the airbase. 1066 01:10:37,134 --> 01:10:43,171 And they quickly figured out you can't just guard an airbase. 1067 01:10:43,173 --> 01:10:45,107 You've got to spread out 1068 01:10:45,109 --> 01:10:46,441 because they're going to mortar it, 1069 01:10:46,443 --> 01:10:48,376 they're going to shoot rockets. 1070 01:10:48,378 --> 01:10:52,147 So you've got to reach out 15 or 20 miles. 1071 01:10:52,149 --> 01:10:56,151 That means you've got to run operations that far out. 1072 01:10:56,153 --> 01:10:57,752 And once you're doing that, 1073 01:10:57,754 --> 01:11:00,087 you're no longer guarding an airbase... 1074 01:11:01,924 --> 01:11:04,925 ... you're operating in hostile territory. 1075 01:11:35,791 --> 01:11:40,160 It wasn't so much the Viet Cong that were intimidating 1076 01:11:40,162 --> 01:11:43,530 at that point as it was the terrain. 1077 01:11:43,532 --> 01:11:48,168 Going from Point A to Point B in the jungle 1078 01:11:48,170 --> 01:11:49,670 was so difficult. 1079 01:11:49,672 --> 01:11:54,074 As it happened to me once, it took four hours 1080 01:11:54,076 --> 01:11:56,310 to move a half a mile, 1081 01:11:56,312 --> 01:11:59,346 cutting through this bush with machetes. 1082 01:12:01,816 --> 01:12:04,716 The Viet Cong knew the terrain 1083 01:12:04,717 --> 01:12:07,687 far better than the Marines did, 1084 01:12:07,689 --> 01:12:11,457 and ran circles around them. 1085 01:12:23,738 --> 01:12:29,141 Fort Dix, June 10, 1965. 1086 01:12:29,143 --> 01:12:30,909 Dear Mum, 1087 01:12:30,911 --> 01:12:34,946 Basic is now all over and I am presently waiting for orders. 1088 01:12:34,948 --> 01:12:37,249 Waiting for orders could be very dull 1089 01:12:37,251 --> 01:12:39,050 but I have found there are excellent chances 1090 01:12:39,052 --> 01:12:40,985 to do some reading. 1091 01:12:40,987 --> 01:12:43,355 Recently I have read Wuthering Heights, 1092 01:12:43,357 --> 01:12:47,925 Animal Farm, Seven Pillars of Wisdom, and Lord Jim. 1093 01:12:47,927 --> 01:12:49,761 I hope you are all well. 1094 01:12:49,763 --> 01:12:51,129 Love, Mogie. 1095 01:12:53,099 --> 01:12:55,800 Mogie Crocker was allowed two weeks at home 1096 01:12:55,802 --> 01:12:58,470 before shipping out to Vietnam. 1097 01:13:00,540 --> 01:13:02,340 We were at dinner one evening 1098 01:13:02,342 --> 01:13:05,644 just talking, I guess, in generalities about the war 1099 01:13:05,646 --> 01:13:08,045 and the general situation. 1100 01:13:08,047 --> 01:13:12,817 And Mogie said, "Of course if I were a Vietnamese, 1101 01:13:12,819 --> 01:13:15,686 I would be on the side of the Viet Cong." 1102 01:13:15,688 --> 01:13:19,590 That... I puzzled over that. 1103 01:13:19,592 --> 01:13:23,027 I suppose relating like to our American Revolution 1104 01:13:23,029 --> 01:13:26,530 that he saw their need for their own freedom. 1105 01:13:26,532 --> 01:13:28,833 But as an American citizen, 1106 01:13:28,835 --> 01:13:33,938 he saw the larger picture of trying to prevent communism. 1107 01:13:33,940 --> 01:13:36,640 I remember one night in particular 1108 01:13:36,642 --> 01:13:38,475 he and I were up late. 1109 01:13:38,477 --> 01:13:43,647 And he suddenly leaned his head in his hands. 1110 01:13:43,649 --> 01:13:46,583 And he said, "I don't want to go back." 1111 01:13:47,853 --> 01:13:50,353 I was dumbstruck. 1112 01:13:50,355 --> 01:13:56,092 And said to him, "But this is what you want to do." 1113 01:13:56,094 --> 01:13:59,629 It had never occurred to me that he was torn about this, 1114 01:13:59,631 --> 01:14:02,833 that he was afraid and yet was determined to go. 1115 01:14:13,678 --> 01:14:17,247 In South Vietnam, things were steadily growing worse. 1116 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:25,321 In May, the Viet Cong, 1117 01:14:25,323 --> 01:14:29,024 supported now by four regiments of North Vietnamese regulars... 1118 01:14:29,026 --> 01:14:31,728 approximately 5,000 men... 1119 01:14:31,730 --> 01:14:35,598 were destroying the equivalent of a South Vietnamese battalion 1120 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,567 every week. 1121 01:14:41,740 --> 01:14:46,776 South Vietnam now seemed only weeks from complete collapse. 1122 01:14:46,778 --> 01:14:50,480 Desperate, General Westmoreland requested 1123 01:14:50,482 --> 01:14:55,584 tens of thousands of more American troops right away. 1124 01:14:55,586 --> 01:14:58,387 But neither the continuing bombing 1125 01:14:58,389 --> 01:15:02,090 nor the growing likelihood of full-scale American intervention 1126 01:15:02,092 --> 01:15:05,560 seemed to intimidate Hanoi. 1127 01:15:05,562 --> 01:15:08,497 Le Duan, having failed to win the war 1128 01:15:08,499 --> 01:15:11,299 before the United States sent in ground troops, 1129 01:15:11,301 --> 01:15:14,603 was now persuaded the American public, 1130 01:15:14,605 --> 01:15:18,139 like the French public before them, would eventually weary 1131 01:15:18,141 --> 01:15:23,812 of a costly, bloody war being waged so far from home. 1132 01:15:23,814 --> 01:15:29,050 By contrast, he said, "The North will not count the cost." 1133 01:15:29,052 --> 01:15:31,719 Le Duan's confidence was bolstered 1134 01:15:31,721 --> 01:15:34,455 by the help American intervention had forced 1135 01:15:34,457 --> 01:15:38,126 the Soviet Union and China to offer him. 1136 01:15:38,128 --> 01:15:42,330 Moscow agreed to supply vast amounts of modern weaponry 1137 01:15:42,332 --> 01:15:43,864 and materiel. 1138 01:15:43,866 --> 01:15:50,104 Hanoi would eventually become the most heavily defended city on Earth. 1139 01:15:50,106 --> 01:15:53,341 And China agreed to send support troops, 1140 01:15:53,343 --> 01:15:56,644 freeing North Vietnamese soldiers for combat 1141 01:15:56,646 --> 01:15:58,346 in the South. 1142 01:15:58,348 --> 01:16:03,551 320,000 Chinese would eventually serve behind the lines 1143 01:16:03,553 --> 01:16:06,753 in the North. 1144 01:16:06,755 --> 01:16:08,989 "We will fight," Le Duan promised, 1145 01:16:08,991 --> 01:16:12,092 "whatever way the United States wants." 1146 01:16:13,395 --> 01:16:16,763 In June of 1965, 1147 01:16:16,765 --> 01:16:19,299 Secretary McNamara, the Secretary of Defense, 1148 01:16:19,301 --> 01:16:20,767 came out to Saigon. 1149 01:16:20,769 --> 01:16:24,371 There were a lot of captains and majors and lieutenants. 1150 01:16:24,373 --> 01:16:28,375 And every person said to Mr. McNamara, 1151 01:16:28,377 --> 01:16:30,944 "The situation is so dire 1152 01:16:30,946 --> 01:16:33,746 we must bring in United States forces." 1153 01:16:33,748 --> 01:16:36,850 So, whatever doubts we may have had, 1154 01:16:36,852 --> 01:16:38,685 whatever people may say after the fact, 1155 01:16:38,687 --> 01:16:41,588 I recall distinctly at the time 1156 01:16:41,590 --> 01:16:44,457 telling the Secretary of Defense that I thought we needed 1157 01:16:44,459 --> 01:16:45,424 to bring troops in there. 1158 01:16:46,862 --> 01:16:48,394 For three weeks, 1159 01:16:48,396 --> 01:16:51,664 the president and his advisors argued over how to respond 1160 01:16:51,666 --> 01:16:55,434 to Westmoreland's urgent request for more troops, 1161 01:16:55,436 --> 01:17:00,139 differing mostly over how many should be sent how fast. 1162 01:17:00,141 --> 01:17:04,611 Undersecretary of State George Ball made the argument 1163 01:17:04,613 --> 01:17:07,413 against further escalation. 1164 01:17:07,415 --> 01:17:11,518 He told the president the war could not be won. 1165 01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,586 The American people will grow weary of it. 1166 01:17:14,588 --> 01:17:16,788 Our troops will get bogged down 1167 01:17:16,790 --> 01:17:19,324 "in the jungles and rice paddies," he warned, 1168 01:17:19,326 --> 01:17:22,961 "while we slowly blow the country to pieces." 1169 01:17:22,963 --> 01:17:25,564 No one else agreed. 1170 01:17:28,702 --> 01:17:34,372 In the end, Johnson sent Westmoreland 50,000 men. 1171 01:17:34,374 --> 01:17:39,912 But he pledged another 50,000 by the end of 1965, 1172 01:17:39,914 --> 01:17:43,048 and still more if they were needed. 1173 01:18:19,553 --> 01:18:21,318 Hold your fire! 1174 01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:22,319 Hold your fire. 1175 01:18:23,722 --> 01:18:25,456 Does the fact 1176 01:18:25,458 --> 01:18:28,525 that you are sending additional forces to Vietnam 1177 01:18:28,527 --> 01:18:31,562 imply any change in the existing policy 1178 01:18:31,564 --> 01:18:35,232 of using American forces to guard American installations 1179 01:18:35,234 --> 01:18:37,568 and to act as an emergency backup? 1180 01:18:37,570 --> 01:18:40,870 It does not imply any change in policy whatever. 1181 01:18:40,872 --> 01:18:43,907 It does not imply any change of objective. 1182 01:18:43,909 --> 01:18:44,874 Uh... 1183 01:18:47,279 --> 01:18:49,146 The month of June saw soldiers here 1184 01:18:49,148 --> 01:18:50,547 taking what appears to be... 1185 01:18:50,549 --> 01:18:53,150 Most television reports from Vietnam 1186 01:18:53,152 --> 01:18:56,586 echoed the newsreels Americans had flocked to see 1187 01:18:56,588 --> 01:19:01,023 during the Second World War... enthusiastic, unquestioning, 1188 01:19:01,025 --> 01:19:05,928 good guys fighting and defeating bad guys. 1189 01:19:05,930 --> 01:19:10,466 But at dinnertime on August 5, 1965, 1190 01:19:10,468 --> 01:19:13,068 Americans saw another side of the war. 1191 01:19:14,939 --> 01:19:17,573 We're on the outskirts of the village of Cam Ne 1192 01:19:17,575 --> 01:19:19,509 with elements of the 1st Battalion... 1193 01:19:19,511 --> 01:19:23,045 CBS correspondent Morley Safer and his crew 1194 01:19:23,047 --> 01:19:26,382 went on patrol with Marines near Danang. 1195 01:19:26,384 --> 01:19:29,552 Their orders were first to search a cluster 1196 01:19:29,554 --> 01:19:33,588 of four villages for caches of arms and rice 1197 01:19:33,590 --> 01:19:38,293 meant for the enemy and then to destroy them all. 1198 01:19:41,832 --> 01:19:44,933 This is what the war in Vietnam is all about. 1199 01:19:48,673 --> 01:19:52,207 The old and the very young. 1200 01:19:52,209 --> 01:19:55,044 The Marines have burned 1201 01:19:55,046 --> 01:19:57,146 this old couple's cottage 1202 01:19:57,148 --> 01:19:58,981 because fire was coming from here. 1203 01:19:58,983 --> 01:20:00,683 And now when you walk into the village 1204 01:20:00,685 --> 01:20:02,450 you see no young people at all. 1205 01:20:07,123 --> 01:20:10,392 The day's operation burned down 150 houses, 1206 01:20:10,394 --> 01:20:13,761 wounded three women, killed one baby, 1207 01:20:13,763 --> 01:20:19,301 wounded one Marine, and netted these four prisoners. 1208 01:20:19,303 --> 01:20:22,337 Today's operation is the frustration of Vietnam 1209 01:20:22,339 --> 01:20:24,306 in miniature. 1210 01:20:24,308 --> 01:20:26,641 There is little doubt that American firepower 1211 01:20:26,643 --> 01:20:29,077 can win a military victory here. 1212 01:20:29,079 --> 01:20:33,915 But to a Vietnamese peasant whose home is a... 1213 01:20:33,917 --> 01:20:36,351 means a lifetime of backbreaking labor, 1214 01:20:36,353 --> 01:20:39,254 it will take more than presidential promises 1215 01:20:39,256 --> 01:20:41,923 to convince him that we are on his side. 1216 01:20:43,860 --> 01:20:45,760 The next morning, the president called 1217 01:20:45,762 --> 01:20:50,098 his friend Frank Stanton, the head of CBS. 1218 01:20:50,100 --> 01:20:53,300 "Hello, Frank, this is your president. 1219 01:20:53,302 --> 01:20:55,336 Are you trying to fuck me?" 1220 01:20:56,973 --> 01:21:00,441 Safer had defaced the American flag, Johnson said. 1221 01:21:00,443 --> 01:21:04,812 He was probably an agent of the Kremlin, had to be fired. 1222 01:21:04,814 --> 01:21:09,117 The Marines claimed Safer had provided a zippo lighter 1223 01:21:09,119 --> 01:21:12,987 and asked the Marines to burn the hut for the camera. 1224 01:21:12,989 --> 01:21:15,356 A major at the Danang Marine press office 1225 01:21:15,358 --> 01:21:19,226 called CBS the "Communist Broadcasting System." 1226 01:21:20,495 --> 01:21:22,095 But after the operation, 1227 01:21:22,097 --> 01:21:27,433 Safer interviewed some of the Marines who'd burned Cam Ne. 1228 01:21:27,435 --> 01:21:29,770 Do you ever have any private thoughts, 1229 01:21:29,772 --> 01:21:32,338 any private regrets about some of these people 1230 01:21:32,340 --> 01:21:33,740 you are leaving homeless? 1231 01:21:33,742 --> 01:21:35,142 I feel no remorse. 1232 01:21:35,144 --> 01:21:36,276 I don't imagine anybody else does. 1233 01:21:36,278 --> 01:21:37,610 You can't expect to do your job 1234 01:21:37,612 --> 01:21:38,845 and feel pity for these people. 1235 01:21:41,183 --> 01:21:43,549 When some viewers registered their shock, 1236 01:21:43,551 --> 01:21:47,687 Westmoreland admitted, "We have a genuine problem 1237 01:21:47,689 --> 01:21:51,624 which will be with us as long as we are in Vietnam. 1238 01:21:51,626 --> 01:21:56,829 Commanders must exercise restraint unnatural to war 1239 01:21:56,831 --> 01:22:00,500 and judgment not often required of young men." 1240 01:22:04,839 --> 01:22:07,674 You kind of thought at first 1241 01:22:07,676 --> 01:22:10,410 that it was going to be like the GIs, you know, 1242 01:22:10,412 --> 01:22:12,845 rolling through Paris after the liberation. 1243 01:22:15,183 --> 01:22:17,750 Well, you know, it sure didn't work out that way. 1244 01:22:20,054 --> 01:22:22,388 I can remember once going in this one ville. 1245 01:22:22,390 --> 01:22:25,724 And I remember finding this entire Vietnamese family 1246 01:22:25,726 --> 01:22:28,360 cowering in a bunker. 1247 01:22:29,830 --> 01:22:32,030 And they were terrified of us. 1248 01:22:35,969 --> 01:22:38,637 And I remember thinking to myself, I said, 1249 01:22:38,639 --> 01:22:42,874 "Well, I wonder if back in the colonial days, 1250 01:22:42,876 --> 01:22:46,044 when the Redcoats barged into Ipswich, Massachusetts, 1251 01:22:46,046 --> 01:22:47,212 or wherever, 1252 01:22:47,214 --> 01:22:50,816 if this is how Americans must have felt 1253 01:22:50,818 --> 01:22:54,553 looking at these foreign soldiers coming in here." 1254 01:22:54,555 --> 01:22:55,854 The Viet Cong 1255 01:22:55,856 --> 01:23:01,159 have terrorized you, and have burned your homes. 1256 01:23:01,161 --> 01:23:04,362 We are here to help you. 1257 01:23:04,364 --> 01:23:08,766 To show how much we are able to protect you, 1258 01:23:08,768 --> 01:23:14,105 we are going to have the Air Force 1259 01:23:14,107 --> 01:23:19,310 hit some Viet Cong on the other side of the valley. 1260 01:23:19,312 --> 01:23:21,279 That will be at 10:30. 1261 01:23:44,303 --> 01:23:46,503 Dear Mum and Dad, 1262 01:23:46,505 --> 01:23:49,539 I am now with the 1st Brigade, 101st Airborne Division 1263 01:23:49,541 --> 01:23:51,508 in Vietnam. 1264 01:23:57,416 --> 01:23:59,449 What is taking place in America? 1265 01:23:59,451 --> 01:24:02,252 We who are in Vietnam find these protests 1266 01:24:02,254 --> 01:24:04,121 very hard to comprehend, 1267 01:24:04,123 --> 01:24:07,924 and many people here are quite bitter about them. 1268 01:24:11,329 --> 01:24:12,929 The belief I have in our present policy 1269 01:24:12,931 --> 01:24:16,899 has been completely confirmed by what I have seen here. 1270 01:24:16,901 --> 01:24:20,036 My chief worry is that these pacifist bleatings 1271 01:24:20,038 --> 01:24:23,005 might effect even a small change in government policy 1272 01:24:23,007 --> 01:24:25,841 at a time when we appear close to success. 1273 01:24:32,650 --> 01:24:36,985 As Vietnam began to be more and more chaotic, 1274 01:24:36,987 --> 01:24:41,757 I certainly wondered very much whether we should be there. 1275 01:24:41,759 --> 01:24:44,225 But I never expressed that to him. 1276 01:24:44,227 --> 01:24:47,696 That's one of those conflicts that's just too difficult 1277 01:24:47,698 --> 01:24:50,131 to bring up, or at least it was for me. 1278 01:25:07,384 --> 01:25:09,417 We were all excited about the arrival 1279 01:25:09,419 --> 01:25:14,155 of the 1st Cavalry Division, an experimental unit. 1280 01:25:14,157 --> 01:25:18,493 They've been trained in air-mobile warfare 1281 01:25:18,495 --> 01:25:25,200 using these helicopters to the absolute maximum benefit. 1282 01:25:25,202 --> 01:25:31,272 They're moving their artillery by helicopter, jumping it, 1283 01:25:31,274 --> 01:25:36,044 leapfrogging troops, chasing the enemy, driving him crazy. 1284 01:25:38,482 --> 01:25:40,615 This is something new, 1285 01:25:40,617 --> 01:25:44,552 and it's going to change the way we do war. 1286 01:25:47,156 --> 01:25:49,790 In September of 1965, 1287 01:25:49,792 --> 01:25:52,493 the newly created 1st Cavalry Division... 1288 01:25:52,495 --> 01:26:00,902 16,000 men, 1,600 vehicles, 435 helicopters... 1289 01:26:00,904 --> 01:26:05,840 had begun arriving at An Khe, a massive base carved out 1290 01:26:05,842 --> 01:26:08,543 of the grasslands at the edge of the Central Highlands. 1291 01:26:10,246 --> 01:26:13,447 Its heliport would come to be called the "Golf Course." 1292 01:26:17,286 --> 01:26:20,954 As the 1st Cavalry got used to its new surroundings, 1293 01:26:20,956 --> 01:26:24,858 thousands of North Vietnamese regulars were slipping south 1294 01:26:24,860 --> 01:26:28,294 into the Highlands along the Ho Chi Minh Trail, 1295 01:26:28,296 --> 01:26:31,831 joining Viet Cong units already in place. 1296 01:26:31,833 --> 01:26:35,334 They established their own base on and around 1297 01:26:35,336 --> 01:26:38,638 a jumble of thickly forested mountains and ravines 1298 01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:41,474 south of the Ia Drang River. 1299 01:26:41,476 --> 01:26:44,210 On the evening of October 19, 1300 01:26:44,212 --> 01:26:47,447 communist commandos slipped to within 40 yards 1301 01:26:47,449 --> 01:26:51,017 of the perimeter wire of the U.S. Special Forces outpost 1302 01:26:51,019 --> 01:26:52,552 at Plei Me, 1303 01:26:52,554 --> 01:26:57,322 which was defended by a 12-man team of U.S. Green Berets, 1304 01:26:57,324 --> 01:27:02,928 14 ARVN, and some 400 mountain tribesmen. 1305 01:27:09,169 --> 01:27:11,971 Nine of the 12 Green Berets were hit. 1306 01:27:11,973 --> 01:27:14,840 They managed to hold out for two days 1307 01:27:14,842 --> 01:27:21,346 before 15 more Green Berets and 160 South Vietnamese Rangers 1308 01:27:21,348 --> 01:27:26,018 were helicoptered in, commanded by Major Charles Beckwith, 1309 01:27:26,020 --> 01:27:30,088 known to his fellow soldiers as Chargin' Charlie. 1310 01:27:31,091 --> 01:27:32,590 The next day, 1311 01:27:32,592 --> 01:27:35,326 Joe Galloway managed to talk a helicopter pilot 1312 01:27:35,328 --> 01:27:38,863 into flying him into the besieged camp. 1313 01:27:38,865 --> 01:27:43,735 That's where I met Major Charles Beckwith. 1314 01:27:43,737 --> 01:27:47,204 He said, "I need everything in the world. 1315 01:27:47,206 --> 01:27:51,109 "And what has the Army in its wisdom sent me 1316 01:27:51,111 --> 01:27:54,311 but a godforsaken reporter?" 1317 01:27:54,313 --> 01:27:57,515 He drug me over and showed me 1318 01:27:57,517 --> 01:28:01,318 a 30-caliber air-cooled machine gun. 1319 01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,088 He showed me how to load it, how to clear a jam. 1320 01:28:04,090 --> 01:28:08,091 "You can shoot the little brown men outside the wire," 1321 01:28:08,093 --> 01:28:10,160 Beckwith told Galloway. 1322 01:28:10,162 --> 01:28:12,095 "You may not shoot the little brown men 1323 01:28:12,097 --> 01:28:15,866 inside the wire; they are mine." 1324 01:28:15,868 --> 01:28:17,801 And I'm sitting there thinking, 1325 01:28:17,803 --> 01:28:20,737 "Ah, I'm a civilian noncombatant." 1326 01:28:20,739 --> 01:28:24,074 I tried that line on Beckwith and he said, 1327 01:28:24,076 --> 01:28:27,077 "Ain't no such thing in these mountains, son." 1328 01:28:27,079 --> 01:28:31,148 For nearly a week, the North Vietnamese launched assault 1329 01:28:31,150 --> 01:28:33,950 after assault on Plei Me. 1330 01:28:33,952 --> 01:28:38,254 It was only after American bombs and napalm 1331 01:28:38,256 --> 01:28:41,391 turned the surrounding terrain into a moonscape 1332 01:28:41,393 --> 01:28:44,627 that the enemy withdrew. 1333 01:28:44,629 --> 01:28:45,754 What kind of fighters 1334 01:28:45,755 --> 01:28:48,231 are the Viet Cong that you met here? 1335 01:28:50,835 --> 01:28:54,504 I would give anything to have 200 of them under my command. 1336 01:28:54,506 --> 01:28:56,406 They're the finest soldiers I've ever seen. 1337 01:28:56,408 --> 01:28:57,740 The Viet Cong. 1338 01:28:57,742 --> 01:28:59,209 That's right. 1339 01:28:59,211 --> 01:29:00,876 They're dedicated, and they're good soldiers. 1340 01:29:00,878 --> 01:29:02,144 They're the best I've ever seen. 1341 01:29:05,317 --> 01:29:08,451 Despite the losses his men had suffered at Plei Me, 1342 01:29:08,453 --> 01:29:11,886 the North Vietnamese commander, General Chu Huy Man, 1343 01:29:11,888 --> 01:29:13,822 was eager for another confrontation 1344 01:29:13,824 --> 01:29:15,724 with the Americans. 1345 01:29:15,726 --> 01:29:19,328 He was determined to learn how to fight them. 1346 01:29:19,330 --> 01:29:22,664 Reinforcements streaming down the Ho Chi Minh Trail 1347 01:29:22,666 --> 01:29:24,899 to the Ia Drang Valley included 1348 01:29:24,901 --> 01:29:29,170 a newly minted second lieutenant, Lo Khac Tam, 1349 01:29:29,172 --> 01:29:32,140 who had volunteered to fight in the South. 1350 01:29:53,963 --> 01:29:56,897 On the morning of November 14, 1965, 1351 01:29:56,899 --> 01:30:01,068 1st Cavalry helicopters belonging to the 1st Battalion 1352 01:30:01,070 --> 01:30:03,304 of the 7th Regiment... 1353 01:30:03,306 --> 01:30:06,240 George Armstrong Custer's old outfit... 1354 01:30:06,242 --> 01:30:09,910 flew west along the Ia Drang toward the Chu Pong Massif, 1355 01:30:09,912 --> 01:30:11,679 looking for the enemy. 1356 01:30:14,049 --> 01:30:17,384 Their commander, Kentucky-born Korean-War veteran 1357 01:30:17,386 --> 01:30:19,653 Lieutenant Colonel Hal Moore, 1358 01:30:19,655 --> 01:30:22,289 had been told there was a large enemy base camp 1359 01:30:22,291 --> 01:30:24,291 somewhere on its slopes. 1360 01:30:24,293 --> 01:30:28,128 His orders were to take his understrength outfit... 1361 01:30:28,130 --> 01:30:34,802 29 officers and just 411 men... find the enemy and kill him. 1362 01:30:34,804 --> 01:30:38,806 There were two clearings large enough for Moore to bring in 1363 01:30:38,808 --> 01:30:40,874 eight choppers at once. 1364 01:30:40,876 --> 01:30:45,612 He chose the one closest to the mountain... Landing Zone X-Ray. 1365 01:30:49,350 --> 01:30:52,852 Moore made a point of leading from the front. 1366 01:30:52,854 --> 01:30:55,354 He was the first man off the first chopper. 1367 01:31:00,094 --> 01:31:04,496 He sent four six-man squads 100 yards in every direction. 1368 01:31:04,498 --> 01:31:07,333 The Ia Drang Valley was so beautiful, 1369 01:31:07,335 --> 01:31:09,535 one soldier remembered, 1370 01:31:09,537 --> 01:31:12,705 it reminded him of a national park back home. 1371 01:31:12,707 --> 01:31:16,943 Within minutes, Moore's men captured a deserter. 1372 01:31:16,945 --> 01:31:18,544 Terrified and trembling, 1373 01:31:18,546 --> 01:31:21,412 he said there were three battalions of soldiers 1374 01:31:21,414 --> 01:31:25,150 on the mountain... 1,600 men. 1375 01:31:25,152 --> 01:31:28,053 They wanted very much to kill Americans, he said, 1376 01:31:28,055 --> 01:31:31,823 but so far had been unable to find any. 1377 01:31:31,825 --> 01:31:34,826 Moore quickly set up a command post 1378 01:31:34,828 --> 01:31:39,231 behind one of the huge termite mounds that dotted the clearing. 1379 01:31:39,233 --> 01:31:41,499 It would take until mid-afternoon 1380 01:31:41,501 --> 01:31:44,736 for all of his men to be ferried in. 1381 01:31:46,006 --> 01:31:48,073 He had no time to waste. 1382 01:31:48,075 --> 01:31:50,608 "We needed to get off the landing zone 1383 01:31:50,610 --> 01:31:54,845 and get at them before they could hit us," Moore remembered. 1384 01:31:54,847 --> 01:31:58,949 He sent two companies up the slope toward the hidden enemy. 1385 01:31:58,951 --> 01:32:02,619 Most of the North Vietnamese, like the Americans, 1386 01:32:02,621 --> 01:32:04,121 were new to combat. 1387 01:32:05,724 --> 01:32:07,858 They were ordered to fix bayonets. 1388 01:32:22,775 --> 01:32:25,674 Colonel Moore had no way of knowing 1389 01:32:25,676 --> 01:32:29,178 that instead of 1,600 enemy soldiers on the mountain, 1390 01:32:29,180 --> 01:32:34,750 there were 3,000... seven times his strength. 1391 01:32:49,167 --> 01:32:51,935 Within minutes, the Americans found themselves 1392 01:32:51,937 --> 01:32:56,439 under attack from hundreds of North Vietnamese soldiers. 1393 01:32:56,441 --> 01:33:00,042 In the fighting, an overeager second lieutenant 1394 01:33:00,044 --> 01:33:03,178 led his platoon of 28 men too far away 1395 01:33:03,180 --> 01:33:06,615 from the rest of his company and was surrounded. 1396 01:33:09,119 --> 01:33:10,852 The lieutenant was killed. 1397 01:33:10,854 --> 01:33:15,157 The sergeant who took his place was shot through the head. 1398 01:33:15,159 --> 01:33:19,795 By late afternoon, only seven of the trapped platoon's men 1399 01:33:19,797 --> 01:33:23,131 were still capable of firing back. 1400 01:33:31,709 --> 01:33:36,578 Moore was now engaged in three simultaneous struggles... 1401 01:33:36,580 --> 01:33:40,648 to defend the landing zone, attack the North Vietnamese, 1402 01:33:40,650 --> 01:33:44,352 and find a way to rescue his trapped patrol. 1403 01:33:47,491 --> 01:33:51,593 That night, Joe Galloway again managed to talk his way 1404 01:33:51,595 --> 01:33:54,428 onto a chopper taking ammunition and water 1405 01:33:54,430 --> 01:33:56,364 to the besieged Americans. 1406 01:33:56,366 --> 01:33:59,634 As the helicopter approached the battlefield, 1407 01:33:59,636 --> 01:34:02,136 Galloway was sitting on a crate of grenades, 1408 01:34:02,138 --> 01:34:05,607 peering out into the darkness. 1409 01:34:05,609 --> 01:34:10,577 And I could see these little pin pricks of light 1410 01:34:10,579 --> 01:34:13,347 coming down the mountain. 1411 01:34:13,349 --> 01:34:17,951 This was the enemy approaching for the next day's attacks. 1412 01:34:19,655 --> 01:34:22,589 We flew in there. 1413 01:34:22,591 --> 01:34:26,894 As they pulled on out, it was dead dark. 1414 01:34:26,896 --> 01:34:30,097 And we're lying there waiting for someone to come tell us 1415 01:34:30,099 --> 01:34:31,232 what to do. 1416 01:34:34,570 --> 01:34:39,340 And the next morning, all of a sudden the bottom fell out. 1417 01:34:43,845 --> 01:34:47,680 There was an explosion of fire. 1418 01:34:49,284 --> 01:34:53,886 The noise is horrendous, unimaginable. 1419 01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:08,935 And in the middle of all of this, you know, 1420 01:35:08,937 --> 01:35:11,771 I-I just flattened out on the ground 1421 01:35:11,773 --> 01:35:16,109 because all that was being fired seemed to be about two, 1422 01:35:16,111 --> 01:35:19,445 two-and-a-half feet off the ground. 1423 01:35:26,420 --> 01:35:29,188 Hundreds of enemy soldiers hurled themselves 1424 01:35:29,190 --> 01:35:30,389 at the Americans. 1425 01:35:32,059 --> 01:35:35,994 They wore webbed helmets camouflaged with grass, 1426 01:35:35,996 --> 01:35:40,899 and as they came, blowing whistles, screaming, 1427 01:35:40,901 --> 01:35:45,204 they looked like "little trees," one American remembered. 1428 01:35:45,206 --> 01:35:47,939 They were trying to overrun us. 1429 01:35:47,941 --> 01:35:50,274 And they came close. 1430 01:35:50,276 --> 01:35:52,376 They came close. 1431 01:36:08,495 --> 01:36:11,663 But we had two things going for us. 1432 01:36:13,166 --> 01:36:16,668 We had a great commander and great soldiers. 1433 01:36:16,670 --> 01:36:23,274 And we had air and artillery support out the yin-yang. 1434 01:36:23,276 --> 01:36:25,809 We had it, and they didn't. 1435 01:36:29,982 --> 01:36:34,818 But using that air and artillery support could be dangerous. 1436 01:36:34,820 --> 01:36:38,922 Each of Moore's units carefully marked its position with smoke 1437 01:36:38,924 --> 01:36:41,859 to keep from being mistaken for the enemy 1438 01:36:41,861 --> 01:36:43,994 by American airmen overhead. 1439 01:36:55,708 --> 01:36:59,743 Some 18,000 artillery shells would be called in 1440 01:36:59,745 --> 01:37:01,145 over the course of the battle, 1441 01:37:01,147 --> 01:37:06,183 some of them landing just 25 yards from Moore's own men. 1442 01:37:06,185 --> 01:37:11,689 Helicopter gunships fired 3,000 rockets into the enemy. 1443 01:37:11,691 --> 01:37:14,257 The forward air controller 1444 01:37:14,259 --> 01:37:17,828 called for every available aircraft in South Vietnam 1445 01:37:17,830 --> 01:37:19,462 to come and help. 1446 01:37:19,464 --> 01:37:25,035 Warplanes, including B-52 long-range strategic bombers, 1447 01:37:25,037 --> 01:37:29,272 were stacked at 1,000-foot intervals above the battlefield, 1448 01:37:29,274 --> 01:37:32,575 from 7,000 to 35,000 feet, 1449 01:37:32,577 --> 01:37:36,879 impatiently awaiting targets to strafe or bomb or burn. 1450 01:37:39,383 --> 01:37:44,120 "By God," Moore said, "they sent us over here to kill communists 1451 01:37:44,122 --> 01:37:45,487 and that's what we're doing." 1452 01:37:51,730 --> 01:37:53,295 I looked up... 1453 01:37:55,366 --> 01:38:02,739 and there were two jets aiming directly at our command post. 1454 01:38:02,741 --> 01:38:08,910 He's dropped two cans of napalm and it's coming toward us, 1455 01:38:08,912 --> 01:38:12,981 loblolly, end over end. 1456 01:38:12,983 --> 01:38:17,786 And these kids, two or three of 'em, plus a sergeant, 1457 01:38:17,788 --> 01:38:22,124 had dug a hole or two over on the edge. 1458 01:38:22,126 --> 01:38:26,895 And I looked as the thing exploded... 1459 01:38:31,235 --> 01:38:35,904 And two of them were dancing in that fire. 1460 01:38:35,906 --> 01:38:39,941 And there's a rush, a roar, 1461 01:38:39,943 --> 01:38:44,079 from the air that's being consumed 1462 01:38:44,081 --> 01:38:49,985 and drawn in as this-this hell come to earth 1463 01:38:49,987 --> 01:38:51,853 is burning there. 1464 01:38:51,855 --> 01:38:56,825 And as that dies back a little, then you can hear the screams. 1465 01:38:59,229 --> 01:39:04,166 And someone yells, "Get this man's feet." 1466 01:39:04,168 --> 01:39:11,206 And I reach down and the boots crumble, 1467 01:39:11,208 --> 01:39:15,376 and the flesh is cooked off of his ankles. 1468 01:39:15,378 --> 01:39:19,547 And I feel those bones in the palms of my hands. 1469 01:39:19,549 --> 01:39:22,116 I can feel it now. 1470 01:39:23,653 --> 01:39:26,387 He died two days later. 1471 01:39:26,389 --> 01:39:30,558 A kid named Jim Nakayama out of Rigby, Idaho. 1472 01:39:45,475 --> 01:39:48,175 By 10:00 that morning, 1473 01:39:48,177 --> 01:39:51,578 American airpower had beaten back the enemy assault. 1474 01:39:53,115 --> 01:39:55,316 The survivors from the trapped platoon 1475 01:39:55,318 --> 01:39:57,517 were rescued that afternoon. 1476 01:39:57,519 --> 01:40:01,388 They had been pinned to the ground and under fire 1477 01:40:01,390 --> 01:40:04,258 for so long that they had to be coaxed 1478 01:40:04,260 --> 01:40:06,293 into getting to their feet again. 1479 01:40:13,069 --> 01:40:15,236 On the morning of the next day, 1480 01:40:15,238 --> 01:40:18,705 enemy soldiers hurled themselves against the same sector 1481 01:40:18,707 --> 01:40:21,976 of Moore's line four more times 1482 01:40:21,978 --> 01:40:25,212 and were obliterated by artillery and machine gun fire. 1483 01:40:27,616 --> 01:40:30,384 The surviving North Vietnamese and Viet Cong 1484 01:40:30,386 --> 01:40:32,586 withdrew into the forest, 1485 01:40:32,588 --> 01:40:35,555 leaving behind a ghastly ring of their dead 1486 01:40:35,557 --> 01:40:37,524 surrounding the landing zone... 1487 01:40:37,526 --> 01:40:43,663 634 corpses, shot, blasted, blackened by fire. 1488 01:41:09,457 --> 01:41:12,491 After three days and two nights of combat, 1489 01:41:12,493 --> 01:41:15,694 helicopters began lifting out the American survivors 1490 01:41:15,696 --> 01:41:18,697 and gathering up the dead. 1491 01:41:18,699 --> 01:41:20,466 When you look at them, 1492 01:41:20,468 --> 01:41:23,769 it doesn't even resemble a human body. 1493 01:41:23,771 --> 01:41:27,005 It just, it looks just like a mannequin. 1494 01:41:27,007 --> 01:41:29,708 You look at them and say, "That couldn't happen to me." 1495 01:41:32,713 --> 01:41:35,848 I saw them fight at Ia Drang. 1496 01:41:35,850 --> 01:41:38,951 It always galls me when I read or hear 1497 01:41:38,953 --> 01:41:41,086 about the World War II generation 1498 01:41:41,088 --> 01:41:43,021 as the greatest generation. 1499 01:41:43,023 --> 01:41:46,058 These kids were just as gallant and as courageous 1500 01:41:46,060 --> 01:41:48,093 as anybody who fought in World War II. 1501 01:41:49,896 --> 01:41:52,797 Seventy-nine of Hal Moore's men lost their lives 1502 01:41:52,799 --> 01:41:56,268 at Landing Zone X-Ray in the Ia Drang Valley 1503 01:41:56,270 --> 01:42:01,706 and another 121 were wounded. 1504 01:42:01,708 --> 01:42:05,177 Please convey to the American people 1505 01:42:05,179 --> 01:42:09,381 what a tremendous fighting man we have here. 1506 01:42:09,383 --> 01:42:14,885 He's courageous, he's aggressive, and he's kind. 1507 01:42:14,887 --> 01:42:18,689 And he'll go where you tell him to go. 1508 01:42:18,691 --> 01:42:21,359 And he's got self-discipline. 1509 01:42:21,361 --> 01:42:24,695 And he's got good unit discipline. 1510 01:42:24,697 --> 01:42:26,964 He's just an outstanding man. 1511 01:42:26,966 --> 01:42:28,332 And... 1512 01:42:30,036 --> 01:42:32,836 Having commanded this battalion for 18 months... 1513 01:42:35,708 --> 01:42:37,741 You must excuse my emotion here, 1514 01:42:37,743 --> 01:42:43,114 but when I see some of these men go out the way they have... 1515 01:42:50,922 --> 01:42:53,089 I haven't... 1516 01:42:53,091 --> 01:42:55,458 I can't tell you how highly I feel for them. 1517 01:42:55,460 --> 01:42:58,228 They're tremendous. 1518 01:42:58,230 --> 01:43:00,630 Hal Moore refused to leave 1519 01:43:00,632 --> 01:43:05,268 until every single man in his command had been accounted for. 1520 01:43:05,270 --> 01:43:10,540 He had been the first of his men to step onto Landing Zone X-Ray, 1521 01:43:10,542 --> 01:43:13,609 and he made sure he was the last to leave it. 1522 01:43:50,848 --> 01:43:53,449 The North Vietnamese suffered terrible losses 1523 01:43:53,451 --> 01:43:54,983 in the Ia Drang Valley 1524 01:43:54,985 --> 01:43:58,787 and many of the survivors were traumatized. 1525 01:43:58,789 --> 01:44:02,557 "The units were enveloped in an atmosphere of gloom," 1526 01:44:02,559 --> 01:44:04,593 a North Vietnamese colonel remembered. 1527 01:44:04,595 --> 01:44:08,964 Some men would not leave their rope hammocks. 1528 01:44:08,966 --> 01:44:11,066 Some refused to wash. 1529 01:44:11,068 --> 01:44:16,404 One soldier wrote a poem expressive of their plight: 1530 01:44:16,406 --> 01:44:19,173 "The crab lies still on the chopping block 1531 01:44:19,175 --> 01:44:23,011 Never knowing when the knife will fall." 1532 01:44:28,985 --> 01:44:34,454 In the Ia Drang we killed ten of them for every one of us. 1533 01:44:36,391 --> 01:44:40,327 That's a ten-to-one kill ratio is how the military puts that. 1534 01:44:43,966 --> 01:44:50,370 But the enemy, he was fully prepared to pay that price 1535 01:44:50,372 --> 01:44:54,541 and more for the value of the lessons he learned. 1536 01:45:10,491 --> 01:45:13,592 Grab 'em by the belt buckle. 1537 01:45:13,594 --> 01:45:17,063 That means you've got to get so close, 1538 01:45:17,065 --> 01:45:23,670 they can't use the artillery and the aerial bombardments on you 1539 01:45:23,672 --> 01:45:26,272 for fear of killing their own. 1540 01:45:26,274 --> 01:45:31,144 Get in so close that it's man-on-man. 1541 01:45:31,146 --> 01:45:34,080 And then everything is even. 1542 01:45:35,483 --> 01:45:39,117 The Vietnamese suffered hundreds of dead 1543 01:45:39,119 --> 01:45:42,020 attacking Hal Moore's battalion at LZ X-Ray. 1544 01:45:42,022 --> 01:45:47,726 But then they ambushed another battalion a couple of days later 1545 01:45:47,728 --> 01:45:51,163 and wiped it out. 1546 01:45:51,165 --> 01:45:53,799 In the fighting near Landing Zone Albany, 1547 01:45:53,801 --> 01:45:57,503 the enemy had gotten too close for artillery to be called in. 1548 01:45:59,106 --> 01:46:05,411 Out of some 425 Americans involved, 155 were killed. 1549 01:46:05,413 --> 01:46:10,182 124 more were wounded. 1550 01:46:10,184 --> 01:46:15,087 Both sides claimed victory in the Ia Drang Valley. 1551 01:46:15,089 --> 01:46:17,889 The Americans talked up the number of enemy dead 1552 01:46:17,891 --> 01:46:19,657 at Landing Zone X-Ray. 1553 01:46:19,659 --> 01:46:21,593 The ratio of losses to your kill... 1554 01:46:23,330 --> 01:46:25,363 The North Vietnamese took their lessons 1555 01:46:25,365 --> 01:46:27,398 from Landing Zone Albany. 1556 01:46:34,842 --> 01:46:37,308 I don't anticipate 1557 01:46:37,310 --> 01:46:42,814 that this conflict will end any time soon, 1558 01:46:42,816 --> 01:46:47,485 and we could find that we have more difficult days ahead. 1559 01:46:47,487 --> 01:46:50,020 Certainly we must be prepared for this. 1560 01:46:58,030 --> 01:47:02,933 In the fall of my senior year, November 1965, 1561 01:47:02,935 --> 01:47:06,337 was that huge battle at the Ia Drang Valley, 1562 01:47:06,339 --> 01:47:09,340 which was the first time there was actually confirmed 1563 01:47:09,342 --> 01:47:11,809 North Vietnamese regular soldiers as opposed 1564 01:47:11,811 --> 01:47:13,611 to Viet Cong. 1565 01:47:13,613 --> 01:47:16,546 And of course my way of interpreting that was, 1566 01:47:16,548 --> 01:47:18,181 "There it is, that's the proof. 1567 01:47:18,183 --> 01:47:20,183 The North Vietnamese are the aggressors here." 1568 01:47:20,185 --> 01:47:24,721 And that's when I began thinking in terms of 1569 01:47:24,723 --> 01:47:27,190 maybe I don't want to go to college right away. 1570 01:47:27,192 --> 01:47:30,494 Maybe I'll join the Marines. 1571 01:47:30,496 --> 01:47:31,762 And it was always the Marines. 1572 01:47:31,764 --> 01:47:33,563 I never... there was no question. 1573 01:47:33,565 --> 01:47:35,198 The Marine Corps is full of little guys like me 1574 01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:36,600 with chips on our shoulder. 1575 01:47:40,606 --> 01:47:43,573 The battles in the Ia Drang Valley may have been declared 1576 01:47:43,575 --> 01:47:47,844 American victories, but privately, General Westmoreland 1577 01:47:47,846 --> 01:47:51,046 and the Johnson administration were worried. 1578 01:47:51,048 --> 01:47:54,617 In spite of the Americans' new airborne mobility, 1579 01:47:54,619 --> 01:47:57,119 the enemy had been able to choose 1580 01:47:57,121 --> 01:47:59,955 the place and time of battle. 1581 01:47:59,957 --> 01:48:03,592 The intelligence on which basic decisions had been made 1582 01:48:03,594 --> 01:48:08,063 in Washington had been uniformly bad. 1583 01:48:08,065 --> 01:48:11,099 There were now believed to be 12 Viet Cong regiments 1584 01:48:11,101 --> 01:48:14,002 in South Vietnam, not just five; 1585 01:48:14,004 --> 01:48:17,206 nine North Vietnamese regiments, not three. 1586 01:48:18,543 --> 01:48:20,476 Despite months of bombing, 1587 01:48:20,478 --> 01:48:23,312 three times as many North Vietnamese regulars 1588 01:48:23,314 --> 01:48:26,915 were now slipping south of the demilitarized zone 1589 01:48:26,917 --> 01:48:29,384 as originally believed. 1590 01:48:29,386 --> 01:48:33,722 Hanoi seemed to be escalating, too. 1591 01:48:33,724 --> 01:48:38,026 And American casualties were climbing. 1592 01:48:38,028 --> 01:48:41,296 When Senator Fritz Hollings visited Saigon 1593 01:48:41,298 --> 01:48:43,832 shortly after the Ia Drang battles, 1594 01:48:43,834 --> 01:48:47,502 General Westmoreland told him, "We're killing these people 1595 01:48:47,504 --> 01:48:49,804 at a rate of ten to one." 1596 01:48:49,806 --> 01:48:51,273 Hollings warned him, 1597 01:48:51,275 --> 01:48:54,877 "Westy, the American people don't care about the ten. 1598 01:48:54,879 --> 01:48:56,845 They care about the one." 1599 01:48:58,948 --> 01:49:01,783 Westmoreland, who had said he could win the war 1600 01:49:01,785 --> 01:49:05,787 in three years, now sent an urgent cable to Washington 1601 01:49:05,789 --> 01:49:08,857 asking for 200,000 more troops. 1602 01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:13,561 "The message came as a shattering blow," 1603 01:49:13,563 --> 01:49:15,864 Robert McNamara remembered. 1604 01:49:15,866 --> 01:49:20,968 Once again, he offered Johnson two options: 1605 01:49:20,970 --> 01:49:24,272 try to negotiate a compromise with Hanoi, 1606 01:49:24,274 --> 01:49:27,975 or accede to Westmoreland's request for more men, 1607 01:49:27,977 --> 01:49:31,345 though the chances of victory, the secretary of defense said, 1608 01:49:31,347 --> 01:49:35,516 might be no better than one in three. 1609 01:49:35,518 --> 01:49:38,251 And then they all sat down 1610 01:49:38,253 --> 01:49:41,354 and voted for option two. 1611 01:49:43,426 --> 01:49:47,494 My bitterness about the political powers at the time 1612 01:49:47,496 --> 01:49:52,466 was, first of all, the lying. 1613 01:49:52,468 --> 01:49:55,969 I mean, I can understand a policy error 1614 01:49:55,971 --> 01:49:58,605 that is incredibly, incredibly painful 1615 01:49:58,607 --> 01:50:00,707 and kills a lot of people out of a mistake 1616 01:50:00,709 --> 01:50:03,911 if they made that with noble hearts. 1617 01:50:03,913 --> 01:50:06,413 That was, you know, when Eisenhower and Kennedy 1618 01:50:06,415 --> 01:50:09,082 were trying to figure things out. 1619 01:50:09,084 --> 01:50:13,420 And you read that, you know, McNamara knew by '65... 1620 01:50:13,422 --> 01:50:15,255 it was just three years before I was there... 1621 01:50:15,257 --> 01:50:16,556 that the war was unwinnable. 1622 01:50:16,558 --> 01:50:18,558 That's what makes me mad. 1623 01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:20,793 Making a mistake, people can do that. 1624 01:50:20,795 --> 01:50:22,628 But covering up mistakes, 1625 01:50:22,630 --> 01:50:26,866 then you're killing people for your own ego. 1626 01:50:26,868 --> 01:50:29,902 And that makes me mad. 1627 01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:33,840 Tens of thousands of American troops 1628 01:50:33,842 --> 01:50:37,743 continued to prepare to deploy to Vietnam 1629 01:50:37,745 --> 01:50:38,979 from all over the country, 1630 01:50:38,981 --> 01:50:42,548 and General Westmoreland and his commanders 1631 01:50:42,550 --> 01:50:44,649 drew up plans for major offensives 1632 01:50:44,651 --> 01:50:47,652 in the new year of 1966. 1633 01:50:51,692 --> 01:50:55,260 Meanwhile, hoping the Soviets might help bring Hanoi 1634 01:50:55,262 --> 01:50:59,198 to the bargaining table, McNamara urged the president 1635 01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:03,502 to declare a halt to the bombing of North Vietnam. 1636 01:51:03,504 --> 01:51:06,105 Over the objections of the military, 1637 01:51:06,107 --> 01:51:08,940 who worried it would give the enemy time to rebuild 1638 01:51:08,942 --> 01:51:13,212 its defenses, Johnson agreed to stop the bombing 1639 01:51:13,214 --> 01:51:16,114 on Christmas Eve. 1640 01:51:16,116 --> 01:51:18,383 If it achieved nothing else, he said, 1641 01:51:18,385 --> 01:51:20,651 it would show the American people 1642 01:51:20,653 --> 01:51:24,122 that before he committed more of their sons to battle, 1643 01:51:24,124 --> 01:51:27,291 "We have gone the last mile." 1644 01:51:30,630 --> 01:51:32,935 Well, Christmas always meant 1645 01:51:32,936 --> 01:51:36,134 a great deal in our family. 1646 01:51:36,136 --> 01:51:40,571 We sent packages to Denton, of course. 1647 01:51:40,573 --> 01:51:42,806 Then a neighbor mentioned to me 1648 01:51:42,808 --> 01:51:47,345 that she heard a local television station was offering 1649 01:51:47,347 --> 01:51:51,181 free tapes to be made to send to a soldier overseas. 1650 01:51:51,183 --> 01:51:56,019 We dressed up for the cameras. 1651 01:51:56,021 --> 01:51:58,855 The idea was that we would each just say something 1652 01:51:58,857 --> 01:52:01,858 about what we were doing and wish him well. 1653 01:52:04,163 --> 01:52:06,796 It was a horrible day for me. 1654 01:52:06,798 --> 01:52:11,768 It made it so real that he was far away. 1655 01:52:11,770 --> 01:52:15,205 Well, Mogie, here we are. 1656 01:52:15,207 --> 01:52:18,942 It's... let's see what day is today. 1657 01:52:18,944 --> 01:52:20,277 Here it is, Saturday... 1658 01:52:20,279 --> 01:52:21,344 November 13. 1659 01:52:21,346 --> 01:52:23,547 November 13, 1660 01:52:23,549 --> 01:52:28,785 and station WTEN has given us a chance to talk to you. 1661 01:52:28,787 --> 01:52:32,388 We all wish you a Merry Christmas to start out with. 1662 01:52:33,992 --> 01:52:36,425 Rand, what do you got to say to Mogie? 1663 01:52:36,427 --> 01:52:37,794 Merry Christmas. 1664 01:52:37,796 --> 01:52:38,728 Merry Christmas. 1665 01:52:40,732 --> 01:52:42,098 Merry Christmas, darling. 1666 01:52:42,100 --> 01:52:43,499 We sent your packages 1667 01:52:43,501 --> 01:52:45,401 and there's one that's waiting for you at home. 1668 01:52:45,403 --> 01:52:47,070 It's a record of fife and drum music 1669 01:52:47,072 --> 01:52:49,672 that we got for you at Williamsburg. 1670 01:52:49,674 --> 01:52:50,539 Candy? 1671 01:52:52,510 --> 01:52:58,314 My teacher isn't very nice, and she always is crabby, 1672 01:52:58,316 --> 01:53:00,816 and I don't like school at all. 1673 01:53:00,818 --> 01:53:02,818 Now I'm a brownie. 1674 01:53:02,820 --> 01:53:04,286 Merry Christmas. 1675 01:53:05,956 --> 01:53:07,389 Happy Christmas, Mogie. 1676 01:53:07,391 --> 01:53:09,258 I think I'm getting new skis for Christmas. 1677 01:53:09,260 --> 01:53:11,327 So when you get home, we can get together sometime. 1678 01:53:11,329 --> 01:53:14,896 We do all wish you a very Merry Christmas, 1679 01:53:14,898 --> 01:53:16,965 and we'll be thinking of you on Christmas Day. 1680 01:53:20,037 --> 01:53:21,570 We miss you, sweetheart. 1681 01:56:14,439 --> 01:56:19,000 - Synced and corrected by chamallow - - www.addic7ed.com - 1682 01:56:22,094 --> 01:56:23,621 Learn more about the film 1683 01:56:23,694 --> 01:56:27,721 and find additional resources at PBS.org/vietnamwar 1684 01:56:27,761 --> 01:56:31,694 and join the conversation using #VietnamWarPBS. 1685 01:56:31,694 --> 01:56:34,827 "The Vietnam War" is available on Blu-ray and DVD. 1686 01:56:34,827 --> 01:56:36,493 The companion book, soundtrack, 1687 01:56:36,493 --> 01:56:39,093 and original score from the film are also available. 1688 01:56:39,093 --> 01:56:41,194 To order, visit shoppbs.org 1689 01:56:41,194 --> 01:56:43,661 or call 1-800-play-PBS. 1690 01:56:43,661 --> 01:56:47,293 Episodes of this series also available for download from iTunes. 1691 01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:52,694 Bank of America proudly supports 1692 01:56:52,694 --> 01:56:57,593 Ken Burns' and Lynn Novick's film "The Vietnam War" 1693 01:56:57,593 --> 01:56:59,993 because fostering different perspectives 1694 01:56:59,993 --> 01:57:02,593 and civil discourse around important issues 1695 01:57:02,593 --> 01:57:04,894 furthers progress, equality, 1696 01:57:04,894 --> 01:57:06,894 and a more connected society. 1697 01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:15,394 Go to bankofamerica.com/ betterconnected to learn more. 1698 01:57:18,860 --> 01:57:20,293 Major support for "The Vietnam War" 1699 01:57:20,293 --> 01:57:23,793 was provided by members of the Better Angels Society, 1700 01:57:23,793 --> 01:57:27,761 including Jonathan and Jeannie Lavine, 1701 01:57:27,761 --> 01:57:30,661 Diane and Hal Brierley, 1702 01:57:30,661 --> 01:57:33,060 Amy and David Abrams, 1703 01:57:33,060 --> 01:57:35,560 John and Catherine Debs, 1704 01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:38,526 the Fullerton Family Charitable Fund, 1705 01:57:38,526 --> 01:57:40,593 the Montrone Family, 1706 01:57:40,593 --> 01:57:42,926 Lynda and Stewart Resnick, 1707 01:57:42,926 --> 01:57:45,694 the Perry and Donna Golkin Family Foundation, 1708 01:57:45,694 --> 01:57:46,694 the Lynch Foundation, 1709 01:57:46,694 --> 01:57:49,560 the Roger and Rosemary Enrico Foundation, 1710 01:57:49,560 --> 01:57:52,993 and by these additional funders. 1711 01:57:52,993 --> 01:57:56,627 Major funding was also provided by David H. Koch... 1712 01:57:58,926 --> 01:58:01,127 The Blavatnik Family Foundation... 1713 01:58:03,461 --> 01:58:05,894 The Park Foundation, 1714 01:58:05,894 --> 01:58:08,060 the National Endowment for the Humanities, 1715 01:58:08,060 --> 01:58:10,261 the Pew Charitable Trusts, 1716 01:58:10,261 --> 01:58:12,926 the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation, 1717 01:58:12,926 --> 01:58:15,694 the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation, 1718 01:58:15,694 --> 01:58:18,293 the Arthur Vining Davis Foundations, 1719 01:58:18,293 --> 01:58:20,493 the Ford Foundation JustFilms, 1720 01:58:20,493 --> 01:58:22,926 by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, 1721 01:58:22,926 --> 01:58:24,894 and by viewers like you. 1722 01:58:24,894 --> 01:58:26,026 Thank you. 137820

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