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[sinister music playing]
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[man 1] Preacher wanted
his body dismembered.
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[saw whirring]
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[man 1] They used
an electric saw...
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and they used a hand saw.
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And they took
his head and his arms
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and were put
in the refrigerator overnight.
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The following day,
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they took the body parts
to the roof.
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[man 2] They got the head,
pulled it out...
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[thudding]
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[man 2] ...and then
they started playing soccer with it.
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[theme music playing]
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Welcome to Very Scary People.
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I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
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In the late 1980s,
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a violent
and sinister crime boss
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known as Preacher
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rules the streets
of New York City.
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He demands total submission
from his enemies,
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absolute loyalty
from his crew,
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and anyone crossing him
is sentenced to death.
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As Preacher's
body count soars,
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his notoriety grows,
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and the NYPD races
to catch him
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and end the bloodshed.
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Preacher is known
by another name.
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One that comes from
the trail of shocking violence
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he leaves in his wake.
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This is the story of
the Black Hand of Death.
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[suspenseful music playing]
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[woman]
Twelve-year-old Donnell Porter
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was on his way to school.
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[telephone ringing]
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[woman]
The family got a call saying
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they had Donnell.
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And they demand
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$400,000 or $500,000
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if they wanted Donnell back.
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They let them know,
"I can't come up with that."
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So the family was told
to go to this restaurant.
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And in the can...
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was Donnell's finger.
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There's an audio tape.
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"Come get me.
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They cut my finger off, Mommy.
Come and help me."
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They couldn't come up
with the money.
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So later...
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a homeless man
found Donnell's body
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wrapped in black garbage bags
like trash.
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[dramatic music playing]
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That was just a heinous crime
that kind of
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was one of the defining crimes
of the era.
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People didn't know who did it.
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But they had an inkling that
it was Preacher and his crew.
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[man 1] Preacher was
one of those individuals
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that everybody knew his name,
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but nobody could tell you
what he looked like.
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[man 2] He was like a ghost.
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Sometimes they'd see him,
sometimes they wouldn't.
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He just freaked everybody out.
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[man 3] There's a myth
that he's 6'5" and he's not.
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His aura is seven foot.
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But he's the worst person
I ever met
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because he pretended to be
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the nicest person I ever met.
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How many people he killed,
tortured, chopped up,
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just the sheer numbers
are amazing.
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[man 4] When you look
in Preacher's eyes,
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you just see space.
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And I'm thinking to myself,
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he has no soul.
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It makes you think,
what happened to you
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in your younger years
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to make you go down this path?
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[Donnie] Preacher's real name
is Clarence Heatley.
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And he was born
in Harlem in 1953.
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[honking]
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[man speaking]
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[Thomas] School records
are kind of shoddy.
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But I don't think
he has formal education past middle school.
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He decides that
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he's going to engage
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in juvenile delinquency.
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Breaking and entering,
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holding up people,
robbing people,
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possession of firearms.
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And this is pretty much
what happened
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until it landed him
in detention
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where he spent
a significant amount of time.
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[clapper operator]
Billy, take one. Marker.
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[Donnie] Billy is
one of Heatley's associates
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who agreed to speak about him
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as long as he could
remain anonymous.
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[Billy] I know he had went
to Warwick Boys Home
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in Warwick, New York.
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The only thing
I ever heard him say was,
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bad things happened
to him there.
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[interviewer speaking]
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[Billy]
That's exactly what he meant
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when he said bad things
happened to him there.
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[Kevin]
These type of institutions
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are a bedrock for
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the learning of
more criminality,
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because there are
a lot of assaults,
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a lot of sexual assaults,
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a lot of brutality.
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[Donnie] After several years
behind bars,
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17-year-old Clarence Heatley
returns to Harlem.
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The neighborhood
he left behind
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has been overwhelmed
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by drug dealers
peddling everything
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from heroin and LSD
to cocaine.
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You had obviously common folks
who lived there
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and went about life
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in a normal kind of fashion.
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But Harlem also had
a number of runners.
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You had pimps.
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You had people who sold heroin
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and different narcotics,
cocaine.
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Harlem was a culmination of
all those kind of things.
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In the mid-'70s,
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Clarence Heatley
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commits this holdup
of this store.
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He's sentenced to
six to twelve years.
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[Kevin] And he's sent upstate
to Dannemora Prison.
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This particular prison
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is the largest
maximum security prison
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in the state.
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[Thomas] In the '70s,
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it was prevalent for
sexual predators in prison.
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And the word is that
Preacher was one of them.
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[Kevin] He actually engaged
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in these behaviors
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in this very facility.
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[Donnie] But terrorizing
his fellow inmates
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isn't the only thing
Heatley does
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during his time in prison.
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Those years were spent
developing a plan.
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[Kevin] At that prison,
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they had one of the best
prison libraries.
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He learns
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through the reading list
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how to become better
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at power and control.
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At controlling men.
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He was reading John Gotti.
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In his book, he talks
about fame and fortune.
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Sun Tzu, in The Art of War,
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talks about organization
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and power and control.
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[Gregg] He had decided
while in prison
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to form an organization
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which almost mimicked
the Italian mob in some way.
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But he was gonna export that
to the streets of Harlem.
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[Raymond speaking]
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[Thomas] In prison,
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he got the name Preacher
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for his ability
to manipulate people
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with words,
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similar to what he felt like
preachers did.
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He's ministering in prison.
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His ministry?
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Criminality.
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His congregation?
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The crew.
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Amen.
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He walked in the prison
as Heatley and...
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came out as the Preacher
six years later.
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[Donnie] Back on the streets,
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30-year-old Preacher
finds Harlem
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teeming with dealers
selling cocaine
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and other illegal drugs
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on every street corner.
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The streets were crowded.
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You had every avenue,
every crew out, everybody just making money.
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[Gregg] Preacher chose
an unusual path
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instead of selling drugs,
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although on some level,
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they did engage
in selling drugs.
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A primary part
of his focus was on
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extorting these drug dealers.
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[Thomas] You got this guy,
Clarence Heatley,
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who's learned from the mafia,
from the '70s hustlers,
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and he's also
an expert manipulator,
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and he's prone to violence.
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You can kind of see where
he could say,
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"I'm not gonna really
sell drugs. I'm just gonna
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oppress drug dealers."
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He basically was taxing
drug dealers.
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But if you're just gonna
tax people,
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you do have
to have a reputation
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that causes them
to decide to pay their tax.
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It doesn't make any sense
unless they're terrified that they could be killed.
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People didn't say no
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because they will
wind up dead,
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or one of their
family members dead.
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[Donnie] To build his crew
of killers and enforcers,
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Preacher carefully chooses
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about a dozen young men
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who have grown up
in the inner city.
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Preacher targeted people
who were younger,
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people who had
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something missing
in their lives,
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whether it was a weakness
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or a desire for
one thing or another.
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It really was
a very powerful organization
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for people who probably had
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very little power
in their personal life.
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[Thomas]
He was like a father figure to these younger guys,
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that he was probably
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providing everything
from insight
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to financial stability
to protection.
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[David] If a young guy was
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having problems with
someone in the neighborhood,
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Preacher would
take care of it.
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And these young guys
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liked that.
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[Billy] Preacher would
give you advice on your relationships.
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He'd give you advice on
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saving your money,
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how you dress,
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you know, how you spoke.
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He was like dad
to some of the guys that didn't have fathers.
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Yeah, I was working off and on
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when I could find work
as a carpenter.
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And that's exactly how
I met Preacher.
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He said, "But how long
you been working here?"
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I said, "I don't know,
it's almost two months."
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He tells me, "Listen,
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you got a choice.
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You're either with me
or against me.
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You're part of this family
or you're killed.
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You know what I'm saying?"
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I said, "Well,
what's the problem?
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I don't know nothing."
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He tells me, "You want
to leave this room?
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You're a part of this family."
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So I decide...
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I can't win.
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You know what I mean?
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So I tell him, "Okay,
what you want me to do?"
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So he says, "Okay,
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take him to Davidson Avenue.
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We want somebody
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on Davidson Avenue
to move off of the block.
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We spoke to him once
and he didn't move.
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So if he don't move...
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leave him there.
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In other words,
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leave him on the block dead."
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So when I get to the corner,
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I say, "Yo, listen,
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people around the corner
is complaining.
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They said they want you
off the block."
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He put his hand in my face
and he shoved me.
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And he shoved me backwards.
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So I shoved the gun
in his chest
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and I emptied the clip.
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Preacher asked, "How'd he do?"
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He said,
"The kid's a monster."
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Preacher looked at me.
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He got up and kissed me
on both cheeks.
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He said,
"Welcome to the family."
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[interviewer speaking]
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[Billy] That was
the very first time.
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He treated me like I was,
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I was somebody.
I was part of the family.
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But in hindsight...
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I was a well-trained pit bull.
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That's what he did to me.
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[voice shaking]
Turned me into a monster.
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Can we cut
for a minute, please?
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[cries]
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[Donnie] Preacher brings
one young man
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after another into his flock,
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using charm
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and a promise of big money.
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Then he builds
his own twisted church,
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a place where
his violent disciples can call home.
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[Billy] It was
a dilapidated building
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until Preacher
got his hands on it.
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Started renovating it
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one apartment at a time.
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The crew lived
in six of the apartments,
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so the building was secure.
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We even hung concertina wire
around the back of it.
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You couldn't get in
and you couldn't get out,
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unless we allowed it.
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[David] Preacher used
an apartment upstairs
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as his headquarters.
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I called that the war room.
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One day, they were
going in there,
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and before they
closed the door,
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Preacher turned around
and said,
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"Popcorn, come on
in here, man."
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I was cooking fish.
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I took the apron off,
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went into the room with them.
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Somebody was talking.
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And he was saying
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how much Preacher is
a beautiful guy.
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"He's a real nice guy.
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This guy is
the greatest guy I know.
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And if this guy asks me
to kill my mama,
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I'm gonna kill my mother."
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[Billy] I can clearly see
Preacher as a cult leader.
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I've never seen
anyone manipulate
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people in the way he did.
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That crew was more of a cult
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than a crew...
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because of the love
they had for him.
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You couldn't
disagree with him.
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You couldn't not do
what he asked you to do.
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And you couldn't
say no to him.
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[Gregg] The organization was
relatively disciplined.
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I think discipline is
one of the words I would use
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to describe the way
he ran things.
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Preacher ran his crew
somewhat like military.
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Guys even had rank.
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[Thomas] Preacher basically
called the shots.
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John Cuff,
one of his main lieutenants,
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was a former police officer.
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Anthony "Malik" Boatwright
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was an enforcer.
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[Gregg] Yeah, Malik was
sort of a murder machine.
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He was able to train
some of the other janitors
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in hand-to-hand combat
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or martial arts.
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[Thomas] The janitors were
the clean-up crew.
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Their job were
to kill people. They would
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torture them, dismember them,
and clean it up.
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These janitors
belonged to him.
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They tattooed themselves
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with dad, for example,
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or janitor,
the bucket, the mop.
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All of these things are signs
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of membership
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and belonging.
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A demonstration
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of their loyalty
to the Preacher
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all the way to the end.
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[Billy] We had rules.
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Nobody sleeps with
another member's girlfriend.
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No stealing money.
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00:15:19,626 --> 00:15:22,396
No getting high
other than marijuana.
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No infighting
among crew members.
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You know, once you joined
the crew, it was for life.
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The only way out was
a cell or a casket.
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And if there was a problem,
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he would basically bring them
to the basement.
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And it would be
almost like a trial,
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where it would be a thumbs-up
or a thumbs-down
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on whether you would
survive or lose your life.
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[Kevin] It so much mirrored
the Roman Colosseum.
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The Caesars, ups, downs,
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life, death.
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[gun cocking]
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[interviewer speaking]
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[Billy] Okay.
The whole crew was assembled.
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I was told to get naked.
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00:16:10,239 --> 00:16:11,039
Which I did.
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I was to stand inside
of a black bag.
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I was shackled.
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00:16:17,225 --> 00:16:18,960
I was handcuffed
behind my back.
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The bag was pulled up
to my shoulders,
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00:16:21,838 --> 00:16:23,873
and another bag was
pulled down over that,
368
00:16:23,977 --> 00:16:24,878
over my head.
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00:16:25,649 --> 00:16:26,850
And there was a vote taken.
370
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"All those in favor
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00:16:31,432 --> 00:16:33,067
of just getting rid
of this guy...
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00:16:35,978 --> 00:16:36,779
say 'aye.'"
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00:16:38,787 --> 00:16:40,655
I could hear him
going around the room.
374
00:16:41,494 --> 00:16:44,064
Nobody voted to kill me.
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00:16:47,244 --> 00:16:48,612
Except for Malik.
376
00:16:49,918 --> 00:16:52,120
Malik didn't like me
very much at all.
377
00:16:53,629 --> 00:16:55,564
About five seconds goes by.
378
00:16:56,103 --> 00:16:56,837
I hear Preacher say,
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00:16:57,641 --> 00:16:59,175
"Take them chains off my son."
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00:17:00,548 --> 00:17:02,350
The bag was removed
from my head.
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00:17:02,454 --> 00:17:04,323
The bag had... [chuckles]
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A few ounces of sweat
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00:17:05,864 --> 00:17:07,899
in the bottom of the bag.
You know what I mean?
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The chains were
taken off of me,
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00:17:12,449 --> 00:17:14,985
and I looked over at Malik,
and you could clearly see that
386
00:17:15,090 --> 00:17:16,959
he was extremely angry
387
00:17:17,063 --> 00:17:18,664
because nobody voted
to kill me.
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00:17:24,384 --> 00:17:26,286
Preacher controlled life.
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00:17:26,389 --> 00:17:28,024
He controlled death.
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00:17:28,595 --> 00:17:29,496
He was a god.
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[Donnie] Flush with power
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and a devoted, murderous crew,
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00:17:36,919 --> 00:17:39,222
ready to follow
his every command,
394
00:17:39,326 --> 00:17:41,128
Preacher is ready to cash in
395
00:17:41,232 --> 00:17:43,934
on the hottest street drug
the world has ever seen.
396
00:17:45,811 --> 00:17:48,881
Around 1985 and '86
is when the crack
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00:17:48,987 --> 00:17:49,888
came to Harlem.
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00:17:52,597 --> 00:17:53,799
Crack was a different animal.
399
00:17:55,105 --> 00:17:58,208
People were making
so much money off of it.
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00:17:58,314 --> 00:18:00,717
$40,000, $50,000,
$60,000 a week,
401
00:18:00,821 --> 00:18:01,888
if not more.
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00:18:03,796 --> 00:18:04,864
[Kevin Chiles] There was
so much money made
403
00:18:04,966 --> 00:18:07,402
between the years of, like,
'86 and '90 that
404
00:18:07,507 --> 00:18:10,377
it's unimaginable,
even when I reflect on it.
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00:18:14,192 --> 00:18:15,427
[David] One drug dealer,
406
00:18:15,530 --> 00:18:17,665
he had an operation
in the Bronx
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00:18:17,770 --> 00:18:18,971
that was making...
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00:18:20,277 --> 00:18:21,712
maybe $10,000 a night.
409
00:18:24,121 --> 00:18:27,658
And the guy had a problem with
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some other people
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00:18:29,570 --> 00:18:30,838
that he couldn't handle.
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00:18:32,144 --> 00:18:34,080
So he got in touch
with Preacher.
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00:18:34,184 --> 00:18:35,452
Preacher had
one of the janitors
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00:18:35,554 --> 00:18:37,055
take care of
that guy's problem.
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00:18:37,158 --> 00:18:38,426
[interviewer speaking]
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00:18:38,529 --> 00:18:39,430
Oh, they killed him.
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00:18:39,531 --> 00:18:40,866
[siren chirps]
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00:18:41,471 --> 00:18:42,638
[David] So now the guy
419
00:18:42,740 --> 00:18:43,775
got Preacher on his back,
420
00:18:43,878 --> 00:18:45,313
taking half of his drugs
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00:18:45,415 --> 00:18:47,183
and his operation.
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00:18:48,792 --> 00:18:50,927
[Joe] I like to use the word,
maybe, "mystique,"
423
00:18:51,031 --> 00:18:52,133
about Clarence Heatley.
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00:18:52,235 --> 00:18:54,770
He would just do
anything that he wanted to.
425
00:18:54,876 --> 00:18:56,778
One of the major things
that he was doing
426
00:18:56,882 --> 00:18:58,917
was he was shaking down, uh,
427
00:18:59,021 --> 00:19:01,290
Harlem bodega owners.
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00:19:01,394 --> 00:19:02,495
If he needed money,
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00:19:02,597 --> 00:19:04,633
he would just walk
into the bodega and say,
430
00:19:04,737 --> 00:19:07,006
"Empty the cash register
and give me everything
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00:19:07,111 --> 00:19:08,045
that you have."
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00:19:09,618 --> 00:19:12,054
[Kevin Chiles]
Preacher developed a reputation of somebody who
433
00:19:12,158 --> 00:19:13,560
you didn't want
to have a problem with.
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00:19:13,663 --> 00:19:15,798
He had that Mercedes that
he would drive around with.
435
00:19:15,902 --> 00:19:18,138
And people feared the car.
436
00:19:18,243 --> 00:19:19,277
He didn't even have
to be in it.
437
00:19:20,148 --> 00:19:21,516
Preacher became
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00:19:22,254 --> 00:19:23,555
ultimately a kingpin.
439
00:19:24,995 --> 00:19:26,530
[David] He put his suit on,
440
00:19:26,633 --> 00:19:28,201
and he had two or three cars
441
00:19:28,304 --> 00:19:29,305
as a convoy
442
00:19:30,009 --> 00:19:31,511
driving him through Harlem.
443
00:19:31,614 --> 00:19:33,549
The vision of watching him
444
00:19:33,653 --> 00:19:36,389
get out of this car
with a $3,000 suit,
445
00:19:36,495 --> 00:19:39,932
you're thinking that
this is the guy not to play around with.
446
00:19:40,038 --> 00:19:42,574
Because this is
also the guy that
447
00:19:43,649 --> 00:19:45,984
they said killed your friend
448
00:19:46,691 --> 00:19:47,592
a couple of months ago.
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00:19:52,975 --> 00:19:54,009
[Donnie] At first,
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00:19:54,111 --> 00:19:56,414
the street dealers that
Preacher orders killed
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00:19:56,519 --> 00:19:58,854
barely register with police,
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00:19:58,959 --> 00:20:01,294
until a savvy detective
begins working
453
00:20:01,399 --> 00:20:03,268
Harlem's homicide beat.
454
00:20:03,372 --> 00:20:05,140
Jay Maher, take one. Marker.
455
00:20:07,985 --> 00:20:10,420
[siren wailing]
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00:20:10,525 --> 00:20:12,694
We were confronted
with a lot of violence.
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00:20:13,568 --> 00:20:15,570
I worked many cases,
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00:20:16,743 --> 00:20:20,880
and I recognized a pattern
in the homicides.
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00:20:20,988 --> 00:20:24,058
I approached
the commanding officer of the detective squad,
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00:20:24,164 --> 00:20:26,333
told him,
"I think this crew is
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00:20:26,438 --> 00:20:27,873
doing a majority
of our homicides."
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00:20:30,549 --> 00:20:32,985
When people
were getting killed and bodies were popping up,
463
00:20:33,090 --> 00:20:34,825
it's like,
"Wow, who did that?"
464
00:20:35,764 --> 00:20:37,666
But you never would have
heard anybody
465
00:20:37,770 --> 00:20:39,772
mention Preacher's name,
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00:20:39,876 --> 00:20:42,512
even though they may have
thought that he did it,
467
00:20:42,617 --> 00:20:45,320
because they're probably like,
"He'll kill me."
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00:20:46,762 --> 00:20:47,997
The fear was there.
469
00:20:50,038 --> 00:20:53,108
[Jay]
The most frustrating thing about this whole investigation
470
00:20:53,214 --> 00:20:55,116
was Preacher was
one of those individuals
471
00:20:55,220 --> 00:20:56,855
that everybody knew his name,
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00:20:56,958 --> 00:20:58,693
but nobody could tell you
what he looked like.
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00:21:01,103 --> 00:21:02,538
[Kevin] The turning point was
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00:21:02,641 --> 00:21:04,109
William Donnell Porter.
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00:21:05,048 --> 00:21:07,483
It flipped the whole script on
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00:21:07,588 --> 00:21:09,457
what would eventually be
477
00:21:09,561 --> 00:21:11,096
the end of this story.
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00:21:25,306 --> 00:21:26,941
[Donnie] By 1989,
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00:21:27,044 --> 00:21:29,313
Clarence "Preacher" Heatley's
crew of killers
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00:21:29,418 --> 00:21:32,721
has been shaking down
drug dealers and shop owners
481
00:21:32,827 --> 00:21:34,162
for six years.
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00:21:34,265 --> 00:21:37,401
Preacher himself
is raking in millions.
483
00:21:38,878 --> 00:21:41,180
But his income
pales in comparison
484
00:21:41,285 --> 00:21:44,121
to some of Harlem's
top drug dealers.
485
00:21:44,226 --> 00:21:45,761
[Joe] Rich Porter was
extremely wealthy,
486
00:21:45,864 --> 00:21:49,201
and he was one of those
who flaunted his wealth.
487
00:21:49,308 --> 00:21:52,344
Always had flashy cars,
flashy women.
488
00:21:53,152 --> 00:21:54,454
[Harlem] Rich Porter
489
00:21:54,557 --> 00:21:56,692
lived life larger than life.
490
00:21:56,796 --> 00:21:59,933
With that smile on his face,
the way he dressed.
491
00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:01,874
He lived every day
like it was his last.
492
00:22:02,913 --> 00:22:04,048
I knew Rich
493
00:22:04,150 --> 00:22:06,085
because him and I were
like friends in the street,
494
00:22:06,189 --> 00:22:07,457
I guess, cohorts.
495
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,128
[Harlem] He was moving bricks.
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00:22:09,766 --> 00:22:11,268
Kilos.
497
00:22:11,371 --> 00:22:14,007
He wasn't just
no street corner drug dealer.
498
00:22:14,112 --> 00:22:15,714
He was on a whole other level.
499
00:22:17,321 --> 00:22:18,489
But he became a target
500
00:22:18,591 --> 00:22:19,659
because he was so flashy.
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00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,136
[Joe] Heatley felt
a little jealous of Porter
502
00:22:24,241 --> 00:22:26,577
only because of
the constant money flow.
503
00:22:26,681 --> 00:22:29,083
Heatley had
his own sources of income.
504
00:22:29,189 --> 00:22:31,191
But Heatley woke up
one day and said,
505
00:22:31,295 --> 00:22:32,496
"You know, all this money,
506
00:22:32,598 --> 00:22:35,434
I should be getting
a bigger piece of the pie."
507
00:22:35,540 --> 00:22:38,510
[Donnie]
24-year-old Rich Porter pays Preacher for protection.
508
00:22:39,518 --> 00:22:41,653
He also has an ally
in Preacher's gang.
509
00:22:43,062 --> 00:22:44,063
His uncle.
510
00:22:44,165 --> 00:22:45,900
Johnny "Apple" Porter.
511
00:22:47,174 --> 00:22:49,276
Rich hopes
that family connection
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00:22:49,380 --> 00:22:52,250
will keep him
and his 12-year-old brother Donnell safe.
513
00:22:54,829 --> 00:22:56,864
[Harlem] Donnell was the baby.
514
00:22:56,968 --> 00:22:58,136
They wanted Donnell
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00:22:58,238 --> 00:23:00,340
to not have
to want for nothing.
516
00:23:02,484 --> 00:23:04,953
A lot of the kids
from the projects in the local area
517
00:23:05,058 --> 00:23:06,526
was part of
my basketball team.
518
00:23:06,629 --> 00:23:08,097
So that's how I met Donnell.
519
00:23:08,702 --> 00:23:10,103
Donnell was a regular kid.
520
00:23:10,205 --> 00:23:11,040
You know, they all were.
521
00:23:11,142 --> 00:23:12,510
You know, pizza.
522
00:23:12,613 --> 00:23:14,081
You know, basketball.
523
00:23:15,187 --> 00:23:16,355
Horsing around.
524
00:23:16,457 --> 00:23:18,426
Just doing things
that 12-year-olds did.
525
00:23:20,435 --> 00:23:22,103
Rich and Donnell
were very close.
526
00:23:23,477 --> 00:23:24,945
He cherished his brother,
527
00:23:25,048 --> 00:23:26,817
and Rich
definitely didn't want
528
00:23:26,921 --> 00:23:28,255
his brother in the streets.
529
00:23:33,138 --> 00:23:35,107
Donnell was
on his way to school.
530
00:23:39,055 --> 00:23:40,289
And according
531
00:23:40,393 --> 00:23:42,695
to the young man that was
walking with him that day,
532
00:23:43,869 --> 00:23:46,104
somebody called him to a car.
533
00:23:47,646 --> 00:23:50,015
Donnell looked at his friend,
he said, "I'll see you later."
534
00:23:53,263 --> 00:23:55,498
And Donnell was never seen
after that day.
535
00:23:58,444 --> 00:24:00,913
Donnell had to have known
the people in the car,
536
00:24:02,254 --> 00:24:03,589
because when he
told his friend
537
00:24:03,692 --> 00:24:05,227
he'd see him later,
it wasn't like,
538
00:24:05,330 --> 00:24:07,833
I'm scared, I'm frantic.
"I'll see you later."
539
00:24:11,915 --> 00:24:14,118
When Donnell
didn't come home from school,
540
00:24:14,223 --> 00:24:15,824
the family got worried.
541
00:24:18,969 --> 00:24:20,103
Nobody had seen Donnell.
542
00:24:21,676 --> 00:24:22,444
We know,
543
00:24:23,148 --> 00:24:24,382
during that time,
544
00:24:24,485 --> 00:24:25,920
that Preacher Crew was known
545
00:24:26,023 --> 00:24:28,092
for snatching people
off the street to get money.
546
00:24:28,998 --> 00:24:31,000
So, of course,
547
00:24:31,104 --> 00:24:33,106
Rich would be a great target.
548
00:24:35,383 --> 00:24:37,385
Because they
couldn't get to Rich,
549
00:24:38,157 --> 00:24:40,626
I guess the next option
for them,
550
00:24:40,731 --> 00:24:42,366
because it was an easy target,
551
00:24:43,172 --> 00:24:44,373
became Donnell.
552
00:24:44,476 --> 00:24:46,244
[telephone ringing]
553
00:24:46,347 --> 00:24:49,150
[Thomas] And soon after,
Rich received a ransom call
554
00:24:49,256 --> 00:24:50,557
demanding
555
00:24:50,659 --> 00:24:53,162
$500,000 for
the return of Donnell.
556
00:24:54,671 --> 00:24:56,140
Just like any other business,
557
00:24:56,243 --> 00:24:58,011
you're not always flush
with cash, you know.
558
00:24:58,114 --> 00:24:59,415
You might have drugs
on the street,
559
00:24:59,519 --> 00:25:00,920
you have people
that owe you money.
560
00:25:01,023 --> 00:25:03,893
So he might not have been able
to put his hands on
561
00:25:03,998 --> 00:25:05,533
$500,000.
562
00:25:07,875 --> 00:25:09,710
[Harlem] He let them know,
"I can't come up with that."
563
00:25:09,815 --> 00:25:10,816
And I think
564
00:25:10,918 --> 00:25:11,885
these kidnappers,
565
00:25:11,987 --> 00:25:13,355
they just wanted the money.
566
00:25:15,798 --> 00:25:19,035
[Thomas]
"Malik" Boatwright allegedly uses his cigar cutter
567
00:25:19,141 --> 00:25:20,642
to cut off Donnell's finger.
568
00:25:24,858 --> 00:25:26,559
[Jay] The torture
of a child like that,
569
00:25:27,064 --> 00:25:28,098
it really shows
570
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,969
what this group
was capable of.
571
00:25:31,476 --> 00:25:34,346
[Thomas] And what was just
a heinous crime that kind of
572
00:25:34,452 --> 00:25:36,587
was one of the defining crimes
of the era.
573
00:25:38,531 --> 00:25:40,599
[Harlem] The family was told
to go to this restaurant,
574
00:25:40,703 --> 00:25:42,906
which was on Broadway and 125.
575
00:25:45,016 --> 00:25:46,183
And they told them
576
00:25:46,286 --> 00:25:48,254
to look in the bathroom
under the sink.
577
00:25:49,930 --> 00:25:51,331
When they went there
578
00:25:52,102 --> 00:25:53,871
and looked under the sink,
579
00:25:53,974 --> 00:25:55,576
they found a can,
580
00:25:55,679 --> 00:25:56,880
which contained
Donnell's finger...
581
00:25:59,056 --> 00:26:00,891
and an audio tape to show that
582
00:26:00,994 --> 00:26:01,861
they had him.
583
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,768
[Thomas]
It was Donnell on the tape
584
00:26:04,872 --> 00:26:06,107
pleading for his life.
585
00:26:08,917 --> 00:26:11,253
[Harlem] They heard his cry
for his mommy.
586
00:26:12,427 --> 00:26:14,429
"Mommy, come help me.
587
00:26:14,533 --> 00:26:15,234
Come get me.
588
00:26:16,538 --> 00:26:17,740
They cut my finger off.
589
00:26:19,547 --> 00:26:20,548
Come and help me."
590
00:26:24,561 --> 00:26:25,996
[Kevin] It's hard to imagine
591
00:26:26,099 --> 00:26:28,468
what he must have been
going through, the fear,
592
00:26:28,573 --> 00:26:30,942
let alone what the people
593
00:26:31,047 --> 00:26:33,115
inflicting terror
594
00:26:33,621 --> 00:26:34,689
are going through.
595
00:26:35,995 --> 00:26:38,164
Because Preacher had
the right people working
596
00:26:38,268 --> 00:26:39,102
for him
597
00:26:39,204 --> 00:26:41,173
to do the job
that he wanted done.
598
00:26:41,945 --> 00:26:43,413
These type of people
599
00:26:43,883 --> 00:26:45,118
are indeed...
600
00:26:45,756 --> 00:26:46,423
sick.
601
00:26:47,226 --> 00:26:48,527
These type of people
602
00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:50,599
are inspired more
603
00:26:51,071 --> 00:26:52,373
by the behavior.
604
00:26:53,043 --> 00:26:54,678
It's almost orgasmic
605
00:26:55,852 --> 00:26:58,454
because the conscience
is not present...
606
00:26:59,729 --> 00:27:00,864
which allows them to
607
00:27:00,966 --> 00:27:03,101
do this ruthlessly
608
00:27:03,205 --> 00:27:05,708
without even thinking
that what they're doing
609
00:27:05,813 --> 00:27:07,181
is something evil.
610
00:27:09,958 --> 00:27:12,094
[Donnie] To rescue his
little brother from Preacher
611
00:27:12,198 --> 00:27:14,434
and his sadistic crew,
612
00:27:14,538 --> 00:27:17,007
Rich Porter hatches
a desperate plan.
613
00:27:19,586 --> 00:27:21,388
The biggest drug dealer
at that time in Harlem
614
00:27:21,491 --> 00:27:22,525
was Fritz.
615
00:27:24,767 --> 00:27:27,403
Fritz gave Rich,
I think it was like
616
00:27:27,508 --> 00:27:30,444
25 or something keys of coke
617
00:27:30,550 --> 00:27:31,718
and he gave Rich money.
618
00:27:32,322 --> 00:27:33,356
He told Rich,
619
00:27:33,459 --> 00:27:34,994
Sell it to whoever you want
to sell it for."
620
00:27:35,097 --> 00:27:36,866
Just get the money
to get your brother back."
621
00:27:36,969 --> 00:27:38,537
Fritz didn't want
nothing back.
622
00:27:41,481 --> 00:27:44,551
But then on January 4th, 1990,
623
00:27:44,657 --> 00:27:47,393
Rich Porter's body is found
in the Bronx.
624
00:27:50,809 --> 00:27:52,444
[Harlem] His body was
dropped on Orchard Beach,
625
00:27:52,547 --> 00:27:53,448
four weeks
626
00:27:54,118 --> 00:27:55,786
after Donnell was kidnapped,
627
00:27:56,759 --> 00:27:59,328
and he had $2,000
in his pocket.
628
00:27:59,433 --> 00:28:01,635
So, the cops knew
it wasn't a robbery.
629
00:28:03,579 --> 00:28:05,714
[Donnie]
After a lengthy investigation,
630
00:28:05,818 --> 00:28:07,653
the police
determined Rich Porter
631
00:28:07,756 --> 00:28:10,292
was murdered
by a rival drug dealer,
632
00:28:10,397 --> 00:28:12,766
not Preacher and his crew.
633
00:28:12,872 --> 00:28:15,174
It had nothing to do with
the kidnapping of his brother.
634
00:28:16,081 --> 00:28:17,015
But the murder
635
00:28:17,117 --> 00:28:18,886
seals Donnell's fate.
636
00:28:19,858 --> 00:28:21,393
[Thomas]
Once Rich Porter died,
637
00:28:21,496 --> 00:28:23,231
the hopes for getting Donnell
638
00:28:24,004 --> 00:28:25,672
kind of died with him.
639
00:28:25,775 --> 00:28:29,145
Now there's nobody
to pay the ransom.
640
00:28:29,251 --> 00:28:31,954
The kidnappers probably
realized they weren't gonna get the money.
641
00:28:32,060 --> 00:28:34,095
And since Donnell
could identify them,
642
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,201
they killed him.
643
00:28:43,058 --> 00:28:44,259
[Harlem] On January 28th,
644
00:28:44,729 --> 00:28:46,197
seven weeks
645
00:28:46,300 --> 00:28:48,169
after Donnell was kidnapped,
646
00:28:48,273 --> 00:28:49,374
a homeless man
647
00:28:50,111 --> 00:28:51,613
found Donnell's body
648
00:28:51,716 --> 00:28:55,152
not too far from
his brother's in the Bronx
649
00:28:55,260 --> 00:28:56,794
on a bike path,
650
00:28:56,898 --> 00:28:59,667
wrapped in black garbage bags
like trash.
651
00:29:04,887 --> 00:29:06,122
I couldn't imagine somebody
652
00:29:06,525 --> 00:29:08,260
harming you
653
00:29:08,363 --> 00:29:11,300
in that fashion
because it's not deserving.
654
00:29:11,406 --> 00:29:12,807
Like your child,
the innocence of it all,
655
00:29:12,910 --> 00:29:15,346
or somebody who
you would consider
656
00:29:15,450 --> 00:29:17,185
outside the scope
of what we were doing.
657
00:29:18,727 --> 00:29:21,463
[Harlem] And maybe
they didn't let him go because he knew their faces.
658
00:29:21,568 --> 00:29:24,137
Like, I'm trying
to understand,
659
00:29:24,242 --> 00:29:26,545
and it's something that
I will never understand.
660
00:29:29,691 --> 00:29:31,493
[Ms. Tee]
Things changed for Harlem,
661
00:29:31,596 --> 00:29:32,964
'cause we've never
had that before.
662
00:29:34,004 --> 00:29:36,539
[Harlem] The FBI and NYPD,
663
00:29:36,645 --> 00:29:38,113
they formed a task force,
664
00:29:38,216 --> 00:29:40,251
because we're talking
about a child
665
00:29:40,355 --> 00:29:41,890
that's now been pulled
666
00:29:42,595 --> 00:29:43,796
into this madness.
667
00:29:45,503 --> 00:29:47,538
[Joe] We had
an old Irish supervisor,
668
00:29:47,642 --> 00:29:48,677
and he said,
669
00:29:48,779 --> 00:29:50,847
"Who is the biggest,
baddest [bleep] in Harlem?"
670
00:29:51,554 --> 00:29:54,057
And we all answered in unison,
671
00:29:54,161 --> 00:29:55,095
uh, "Clarence Heatley."
672
00:29:57,236 --> 00:29:58,805
That's how
the investigation got going.
673
00:29:59,911 --> 00:30:01,579
Myself and Jay Maher,
674
00:30:01,682 --> 00:30:03,851
who worked out of
the precinct in Harlem,
675
00:30:03,956 --> 00:30:06,258
he was one of the backbones
of the investigation.
676
00:30:06,363 --> 00:30:09,065
So now we had
the FBI coming on board,
677
00:30:09,170 --> 00:30:11,806
and they went over
my flow chart.
678
00:30:11,912 --> 00:30:13,414
And it was decided
that's good stuff.
679
00:30:14,419 --> 00:30:16,488
So that's how
the Preacher case started.
680
00:30:16,592 --> 00:30:17,626
[Joe] So now,
681
00:30:17,728 --> 00:30:19,563
how are we gonna
get Clarence Heatley?
682
00:30:22,308 --> 00:30:24,744
What can we do to bring
Clarence Heatley to justice?
683
00:30:26,554 --> 00:30:28,189
Before the Donnell kidnapping,
684
00:30:28,292 --> 00:30:30,361
nobody, and I mean nobody,
685
00:30:30,465 --> 00:30:31,599
would talk about Preacher.
686
00:30:32,838 --> 00:30:35,407
After Donnell Porter's body
was found,
687
00:30:35,512 --> 00:30:37,448
now it's a cat and mouse game.
688
00:30:37,552 --> 00:30:39,587
Okay. Now we have to
689
00:30:39,691 --> 00:30:41,560
bring justice for Donnell.
690
00:30:41,664 --> 00:30:43,732
We have to bring justice
to all these other families.
691
00:30:43,837 --> 00:30:45,238
You know, we have
to get this guy.
692
00:30:48,717 --> 00:30:50,085
When most criminals find out
693
00:30:50,188 --> 00:30:52,224
they're being hunted
by the FBI,
694
00:30:52,328 --> 00:30:53,863
they lay low.
695
00:30:53,966 --> 00:30:57,035
But Clarence Heatley
isn't most criminals.
696
00:30:57,142 --> 00:30:58,877
Even with
the feds watching him,
697
00:30:58,980 --> 00:31:01,916
he's rumored to have committed
his most daring crime yet.
698
00:31:02,457 --> 00:31:04,025
And his alleged victim
699
00:31:04,128 --> 00:31:05,963
is a pop culture icon.
700
00:31:18,503 --> 00:31:19,971
[upbeat music playing]
701
00:31:21,043 --> 00:31:23,178
[David] Preacher and his crew
with John Cuff
702
00:31:23,282 --> 00:31:24,584
decided that they wanted to go
703
00:31:24,687 --> 00:31:27,556
to Jersey to go gambling.
704
00:31:27,662 --> 00:31:29,297
They sat at a table.
705
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,368
And at the end of the night,
706
00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:32,839
some guys from Jersey
is sat there.
707
00:31:32,943 --> 00:31:34,345
They're telling war stories.
708
00:31:36,052 --> 00:31:37,387
The guy from Jersey said,
709
00:31:37,490 --> 00:31:39,325
"If we catch this dude,
Bobby Brown,
710
00:31:40,298 --> 00:31:41,132
we're gonna kill him."
711
00:31:42,404 --> 00:31:43,639
One of the guys is asking,
712
00:31:43,741 --> 00:31:45,609
"Why are you going
to do that?"
713
00:31:45,713 --> 00:31:47,882
He said, "Because he borrowed
a key of coke from us,
714
00:31:48,421 --> 00:31:49,556
and he disappeared."
715
00:31:52,366 --> 00:31:54,969
Meanwhile, Bobby and Whitney
get a house in Jersey.
716
00:31:55,508 --> 00:31:56,642
And these guys
717
00:31:56,745 --> 00:31:58,080
see Bobby Brown every night
718
00:31:58,182 --> 00:32:00,384
because he's at
that club in New York.
719
00:32:01,693 --> 00:32:03,695
All the stars hung out
at that club.
720
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,501
I hung out in Harlem,
721
00:32:05,604 --> 00:32:07,339
you know, during the '90s.
722
00:32:07,443 --> 00:32:09,044
Whenever I wasn't on tour,
723
00:32:09,147 --> 00:32:11,483
you know, I had
a bunch of friends that
724
00:32:11,955 --> 00:32:12,723
lived in Harlem
725
00:32:12,825 --> 00:32:14,259
that I would hang out with.
726
00:32:14,363 --> 00:32:16,031
[David] Preacher asked
the Jersey guys,
727
00:32:16,134 --> 00:32:17,369
"How much does he owe you?"
728
00:32:17,471 --> 00:32:20,407
He said, "He owes us $25,000."
729
00:32:21,215 --> 00:32:22,416
So he said,
"I'll tell you what,
730
00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:24,121
let me buy that beef from you.
731
00:32:24,224 --> 00:32:25,225
I'll give you $10,000,
732
00:32:25,327 --> 00:32:27,095
it's no longer
your problem, it's mine."
733
00:32:27,198 --> 00:32:29,100
The dude was like,
"[bleep] yeah."
734
00:32:29,204 --> 00:32:31,974
Preacher often bought debt
735
00:32:32,079 --> 00:32:34,381
from other crews
and other gangs.
736
00:32:34,486 --> 00:32:37,256
And as any loan shark
would do,
737
00:32:37,361 --> 00:32:38,362
they would up the ante,
738
00:32:39,133 --> 00:32:40,868
which is what Preacher did.
739
00:32:40,971 --> 00:32:43,441
Preacher, he upped
the price to $400,000.
740
00:32:43,546 --> 00:32:45,214
That's not what it was before.
741
00:32:45,317 --> 00:32:46,385
You know, at the beginning.
742
00:32:46,487 --> 00:32:47,488
[telephone ringing]
743
00:32:48,828 --> 00:32:51,364
Bobby Brown let them know,
"I can't come up with that.'
744
00:32:55,012 --> 00:32:56,947
They go back to Harlem
and they get this girl
745
00:32:57,051 --> 00:32:59,754
from the projects
who's absolutely beautiful.
746
00:33:01,130 --> 00:33:02,164
Get her dressed up,
747
00:33:03,001 --> 00:33:04,102
send her to the club.
748
00:33:05,776 --> 00:33:06,676
[Bobby] At that time,
749
00:33:06,779 --> 00:33:08,047
in the clubs, you know,
750
00:33:08,150 --> 00:33:10,952
you'd see all sorts
of types of people.
751
00:33:11,058 --> 00:33:12,692
Uh, the hoods would be there,
752
00:33:12,796 --> 00:33:15,098
you'd see lots of females,
753
00:33:15,905 --> 00:33:17,039
skimpy dresses.
754
00:33:17,141 --> 00:33:18,576
It was just that time.
755
00:33:19,549 --> 00:33:21,717
They said Bobby Brown
was all into her.
756
00:33:21,822 --> 00:33:23,123
And she was like,
"I can't hear you.
757
00:33:23,226 --> 00:33:25,228
Let's go outside and talk."
758
00:33:25,332 --> 00:33:27,201
Well, they started walking
down the street.
759
00:33:27,304 --> 00:33:28,939
And Preacher and them
had a van
760
00:33:29,043 --> 00:33:29,910
sitting out there.
761
00:33:30,011 --> 00:33:31,346
And when he walked
past the van,
762
00:33:31,449 --> 00:33:33,518
they opened up the door
and pulled him in.
763
00:33:36,564 --> 00:33:38,900
[interviewer speaking]
764
00:33:40,308 --> 00:33:42,010
Heatley, um,
765
00:33:42,113 --> 00:33:44,082
I didn't know
of the crew back then.
766
00:33:44,186 --> 00:33:46,822
I only found out
about them, um,
767
00:33:47,830 --> 00:33:49,565
around ten years ago.
768
00:33:49,668 --> 00:33:53,639
[interviewer speaking]
769
00:33:53,747 --> 00:33:55,448
It was funny because I know
770
00:33:55,552 --> 00:33:57,687
nothing like that
ever happened to me.
771
00:33:57,791 --> 00:33:59,326
[David] They took Bobby Brown
to the Bronx.
772
00:34:00,164 --> 00:34:01,532
Malik stripped him
773
00:34:02,672 --> 00:34:03,739
and hog tied him.
774
00:34:05,046 --> 00:34:06,747
They basically told him
775
00:34:06,851 --> 00:34:07,852
to call Whitney
776
00:34:08,655 --> 00:34:10,791
and that they wanted $400,000
777
00:34:10,895 --> 00:34:11,963
or they were gonna kill him.
778
00:34:13,034 --> 00:34:14,536
I've never been kidnapped.
779
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:15,773
I've never,
780
00:34:15,877 --> 00:34:18,713
um, had a debt
with any drug dealers.
781
00:34:18,818 --> 00:34:21,120
I kind of took it
really personal
782
00:34:21,225 --> 00:34:22,860
that, um, my name would be
783
00:34:24,033 --> 00:34:26,369
mentioned in
such a dark light.
784
00:34:26,473 --> 00:34:29,342
I didn't want my name
to be associated with
785
00:34:30,083 --> 00:34:31,518
anyone of that caliber.
786
00:34:31,621 --> 00:34:33,590
And I went to the house
and I seen him in there.
787
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:36,801
[Kevin] I don't know
788
00:34:37,438 --> 00:34:39,540
if it happened or not.
789
00:34:39,644 --> 00:34:41,580
If it happened,
it was definitely brazen,
790
00:34:41,684 --> 00:34:42,818
definitely bold.
791
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,822
But he probably knew
he could get the money.
792
00:34:46,263 --> 00:34:47,297
[Ms. Tee]
Whitney was from the streets.
793
00:34:47,399 --> 00:34:48,200
She's from Newark.
794
00:34:50,943 --> 00:34:51,911
So she's been around
795
00:34:52,013 --> 00:34:53,948
and she probably understood
what was going on.
796
00:34:54,654 --> 00:34:55,955
[David] She loved that guy.
797
00:34:57,195 --> 00:34:58,830
She came there by herself
798
00:34:59,635 --> 00:35:02,404
with a wig and big glasses on
799
00:35:02,510 --> 00:35:03,511
with a bag full of money.
800
00:35:04,515 --> 00:35:05,383
Went up to the house.
801
00:35:06,956 --> 00:35:08,424
They said she threw
the bag down...
802
00:35:09,764 --> 00:35:11,065
and said, "Where the [bleep]
Bobby at?
803
00:35:11,970 --> 00:35:13,471
Got in the room, untied him
804
00:35:14,043 --> 00:35:15,577
and took him home.
805
00:35:16,684 --> 00:35:19,453
[Billy] Preacher said that
Whitney was a gangster.
806
00:35:20,929 --> 00:35:23,065
She came into the Bronx
by herself
807
00:35:23,169 --> 00:35:24,670
with 400 grand.
808
00:35:24,773 --> 00:35:27,309
And then cussed him out
when she paid him.
809
00:35:28,517 --> 00:35:29,318
And he envied her.
810
00:35:29,420 --> 00:35:30,288
He liked her.
811
00:35:34,166 --> 00:35:36,402
The incident never happened.
812
00:35:36,507 --> 00:35:38,776
I don't know how they
connected my name
813
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,082
or even my ex-wife's name
814
00:35:41,554 --> 00:35:42,389
to that crew.
815
00:35:43,292 --> 00:35:46,262
And I really wanted to clear
816
00:35:46,903 --> 00:35:48,772
the air about me
817
00:35:48,876 --> 00:35:50,811
owing somebody for drugs.
818
00:35:50,915 --> 00:35:52,784
I've never have
and I never will.
819
00:35:54,091 --> 00:35:55,426
I am working on me.
820
00:35:55,528 --> 00:35:57,029
God is still working on me.
821
00:35:57,132 --> 00:35:58,267
And, um,
822
00:35:58,370 --> 00:36:00,038
you know, I like
to keep it that way.
823
00:36:02,749 --> 00:36:05,185
[Donnie] If Bobby Brown's
run-in with the Preacher Crew
824
00:36:05,289 --> 00:36:06,824
did actually happen,
825
00:36:06,927 --> 00:36:08,795
we know he survived.
826
00:36:08,899 --> 00:36:11,602
Most of Preacher's enemies
aren't so lucky.
827
00:36:25,313 --> 00:36:27,349
[Donnie] In the early 1990s,
828
00:36:27,453 --> 00:36:29,054
one of Harlem's drug dealers
829
00:36:29,158 --> 00:36:32,161
was named
"Small Paul" Singleton.
830
00:36:32,267 --> 00:36:34,736
He allegedly owed
Preacher money.
831
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,909
And Preacher came knocking.
832
00:36:37,013 --> 00:36:38,448
[Billy] When Preacher
asked for the money,
833
00:36:38,952 --> 00:36:40,053
he was laughed at.
834
00:36:40,155 --> 00:36:42,558
"Like, man, you're pressing me
about some money, man.
835
00:36:42,663 --> 00:36:43,864
You got all the money
in the world."
836
00:36:44,969 --> 00:36:47,805
And that was the end
of his life, right there.
837
00:36:47,911 --> 00:36:49,847
All he had to do was
give him the money. He had it.
838
00:36:51,087 --> 00:36:53,490
[man] They lured Small Paul
839
00:36:53,594 --> 00:36:55,095
to a location where
840
00:36:55,198 --> 00:36:57,234
he was eventually brought
to the Bronx.
841
00:37:00,380 --> 00:37:01,648
When they were
in the basement,
842
00:37:01,751 --> 00:37:03,987
thumbs-down on Small Paul.
843
00:37:04,926 --> 00:37:05,793
They're gonna whack him.
844
00:37:10,108 --> 00:37:11,543
[Billy]
And from what I understand,
845
00:37:11,646 --> 00:37:13,080
he was sexually assaulted...
846
00:37:14,688 --> 00:37:15,822
after his murder.
847
00:37:26,555 --> 00:37:28,724
[Kevin]
Post-mortem necrophilia.
848
00:37:29,296 --> 00:37:31,365
It is not about sex.
849
00:37:31,469 --> 00:37:34,005
It's about dominance.
It's about power.
850
00:37:34,110 --> 00:37:35,612
It's about control.
851
00:37:35,715 --> 00:37:37,516
Well, there are
many commonalities
852
00:37:37,620 --> 00:37:39,421
that mirror other
853
00:37:39,525 --> 00:37:41,694
pathological serial killers.
854
00:37:41,798 --> 00:37:43,901
Like Jeffrey Dahmer.
855
00:37:44,005 --> 00:37:45,940
The rules had
to be adhered to,
856
00:37:47,047 --> 00:37:48,448
lest you, too,
857
00:37:48,551 --> 00:37:50,153
find yourself in the basement.
858
00:37:51,761 --> 00:37:53,462
That torture chamber.
859
00:37:56,875 --> 00:37:59,511
[Jay] Small Paul was killed
and put in bags
860
00:37:59,616 --> 00:38:01,217
and partial suitcases,
861
00:38:01,822 --> 00:38:03,524
and brought to Queens,
862
00:38:03,628 --> 00:38:04,796
and dumped back
in the neighborhood.
863
00:38:04,898 --> 00:38:06,433
Which, if you think about it,
864
00:38:06,536 --> 00:38:07,937
the Queens detectives
865
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,309
are gonna think
it happened in Queens,
866
00:38:10,948 --> 00:38:12,116
and the Bronx detectives
867
00:38:12,219 --> 00:38:14,288
are never gonna know
it even happened there.
868
00:38:14,392 --> 00:38:16,661
It's actually
a really smart way of
869
00:38:16,765 --> 00:38:18,467
dividing and conquering
the police department,
870
00:38:18,571 --> 00:38:19,605
'cause the police department,
871
00:38:19,707 --> 00:38:21,142
really, in those days
in particular,
872
00:38:21,245 --> 00:38:24,215
was focused in the county
in which they sat.
873
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,155
So if they found
a body in Queens,
874
00:38:26,259 --> 00:38:27,594
the detectives
who found the body
875
00:38:27,697 --> 00:38:29,098
wouldn't necessarily
be questioning
876
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,835
a whole bunch of people
about what had happened,
877
00:38:30,939 --> 00:38:32,107
in the Bronx or in Manhattan.
878
00:38:33,479 --> 00:38:36,683
[Joe] One of the things
that made Preacher so unique
879
00:38:36,789 --> 00:38:38,791
was an air of invincibility.
880
00:38:38,895 --> 00:38:40,363
They thought of him
as like Superman.
881
00:38:40,466 --> 00:38:43,069
And with law enforcement,
he was
882
00:38:43,174 --> 00:38:44,308
virtually untouchable.
883
00:38:46,584 --> 00:38:49,253
[Donnie] After almost
four years of work,
884
00:38:49,359 --> 00:38:50,860
the federal task force
885
00:38:50,963 --> 00:38:53,566
still doesn't have
any evidence linking Preacher
886
00:38:53,671 --> 00:38:56,307
to the vicious crimes
they believe he's committed.
887
00:38:57,248 --> 00:38:59,450
Witnesses are
too scared to talk.
888
00:38:59,554 --> 00:39:01,623
So Detective Jay Maher
889
00:39:01,727 --> 00:39:03,295
gets more aggressive.
890
00:39:07,511 --> 00:39:09,646
I get a call from a source
telling me they just spotted
891
00:39:09,750 --> 00:39:12,319
Preacher's buddy, John Cuff.
892
00:39:12,425 --> 00:39:15,327
[Joe] John Cuff was a former
housing authority cop
893
00:39:15,433 --> 00:39:16,467
in New York City
894
00:39:16,570 --> 00:39:18,872
who was capable of
running records, doing things.
895
00:39:19,511 --> 00:39:20,779
[Jay] So I head over there
896
00:39:20,882 --> 00:39:22,751
and I pull him over
and I walk up.
897
00:39:22,854 --> 00:39:24,789
And sure enough,
it's Cuff driving.
898
00:39:25,595 --> 00:39:27,464
So he hands me
a driver's license.
899
00:39:27,568 --> 00:39:29,470
I know the name
on the driver's license
900
00:39:29,574 --> 00:39:30,441
is not John Cuff.
901
00:39:30,543 --> 00:39:32,612
But I also know
there was an employee
902
00:39:32,716 --> 00:39:34,918
in the Department
of Motor Vehicle in New Jersey
903
00:39:35,022 --> 00:39:37,525
that was selling
real licenses.
904
00:39:37,630 --> 00:39:39,132
So if I run this
in the computer,
905
00:39:39,235 --> 00:39:41,403
it's gonna come back real,
even though it's not him.
906
00:39:43,112 --> 00:39:45,648
So then we went through
this game where I said,
907
00:39:45,753 --> 00:39:46,721
"What's your name?"
908
00:39:46,823 --> 00:39:48,658
And his response was,
"You got my license."
909
00:39:49,263 --> 00:39:50,397
And I said,
910
00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:51,968
"Okay, step out of the car."
911
00:39:54,278 --> 00:39:56,280
I said, "John,
what's your name?"
912
00:39:56,384 --> 00:39:58,252
And he looks at me, he goes,
'You know my [bleep] name?"
913
00:39:58,924 --> 00:40:00,125
I said, "Yeah."
914
00:40:00,228 --> 00:40:01,863
So I locked him up.
915
00:40:01,966 --> 00:40:04,202
So we go in and I'm doing
an inventory search.
916
00:40:04,306 --> 00:40:06,808
And in his wallet was a list.
917
00:40:07,683 --> 00:40:09,318
And it was several names.
918
00:40:09,421 --> 00:40:10,922
And it was actually,
919
00:40:11,025 --> 00:40:13,328
uh, not only names,
but relationships.
920
00:40:14,669 --> 00:40:16,905
All these different players
921
00:40:17,009 --> 00:40:18,978
and relationships,
or players themselves
922
00:40:19,082 --> 00:40:20,149
that are getting money.
923
00:40:21,421 --> 00:40:23,924
I figure
it's an extortion list or a kidnap list.
924
00:40:24,029 --> 00:40:25,831
So it would be like
what they were into.
925
00:40:25,935 --> 00:40:27,470
They would kidnap relatives
926
00:40:27,573 --> 00:40:29,775
or people associated
with these crews
927
00:40:29,879 --> 00:40:32,315
and then hold them
for money until they paid it.
928
00:40:33,958 --> 00:40:36,294
There's a copy machine
right in front of the cell,
929
00:40:36,398 --> 00:40:37,232
so I copied it.
930
00:40:38,204 --> 00:40:39,371
Then I gave him back
his copies,
931
00:40:39,473 --> 00:40:41,576
but I had my copy too.
932
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,281
And I turned that over
to the FBI.
933
00:40:44,354 --> 00:40:46,456
I charged him
with criminal impersonation.
934
00:40:47,295 --> 00:40:48,697
The license is real.
935
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,269
And so basically
they did nothing with that.
936
00:40:51,374 --> 00:40:52,542
He gets right back out.
937
00:40:53,815 --> 00:40:55,650
[Joe] Like, when he was
walking out smiling,
938
00:40:55,753 --> 00:40:57,255
in your mind you're saying...
939
00:40:57,826 --> 00:40:58,927
[chuckles]
940
00:40:59,029 --> 00:40:59,997
I don't think I can
say on camera
941
00:41:00,099 --> 00:41:01,166
what my mind was saying, but,
942
00:41:01,904 --> 00:41:03,273
"You got off this time.
943
00:41:03,375 --> 00:41:04,876
But we're gonna dance
another day."
944
00:41:10,964 --> 00:41:14,034
Clarence Heatley's
right-hand man beats the case.
945
00:41:14,139 --> 00:41:15,507
But now Preacher knows
946
00:41:15,610 --> 00:41:18,446
investigators are
on to him and his crew.
947
00:41:18,552 --> 00:41:21,088
So he begins
tying up loose ends.
948
00:41:21,193 --> 00:41:24,263
Starting by taking out
his most deadly hitman.
949
00:41:31,756 --> 00:41:33,424
[traffic blaring]
950
00:41:33,528 --> 00:41:36,598
Malik Boatwright was
probably third in charge.
951
00:41:36,703 --> 00:41:38,438
He had Preacher's ear.
952
00:41:38,542 --> 00:41:40,711
Mallik had
prior military training.
953
00:41:42,186 --> 00:41:44,756
He clearly knew
how to fire a weapon.
954
00:41:45,294 --> 00:41:46,396
He was a marksman.
955
00:41:46,499 --> 00:41:48,134
So he was a trained killer.
956
00:41:49,908 --> 00:41:52,878
[David Collins] And he had
some personal problems of his own.
957
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,923
I heard that
he was abused by his father,
958
00:41:57,028 --> 00:41:58,596
and somehow,
he came to New York
959
00:41:58,700 --> 00:42:00,635
and got caught up
with Preacher and them.
960
00:42:04,216 --> 00:42:06,819
Malik was devoted to
Clarence "Preacher" Heatley.
961
00:42:07,893 --> 00:42:11,363
Malik would do anything
for Preacher's love.
962
00:42:12,339 --> 00:42:16,410
Malik said that he would
give himself to him,
963
00:42:16,518 --> 00:42:17,652
and I believe he did.
964
00:42:21,064 --> 00:42:24,200
I believe Preacher and Malik
had a relationship,
965
00:42:24,306 --> 00:42:26,976
and Malik got into it
966
00:42:27,081 --> 00:42:28,749
with other guys in the crew
967
00:42:28,853 --> 00:42:31,589
because of the relationship
that he had with Preacher.
968
00:42:35,070 --> 00:42:36,472
[Kevin Early]
It became an obsession
969
00:42:37,778 --> 00:42:40,948
where no one else could have
970
00:42:41,054 --> 00:42:44,658
that closeness to the Preacher
that he desired.
971
00:42:47,038 --> 00:42:51,943
But Malik was so violent
and so potentially problematic
972
00:42:52,053 --> 00:42:55,123
that his behavior
became unacceptable.
973
00:42:56,532 --> 00:43:00,503
I'd seen Malik go out
plenty of nights
974
00:43:00,611 --> 00:43:01,945
and it wasn't to go dancing.
975
00:43:04,254 --> 00:43:05,889
-[gun cocking]
-[gunshot]
976
00:43:05,993 --> 00:43:07,761
You'd hear about
the aftermath.
977
00:43:07,864 --> 00:43:09,332
"Somebody got killed
over here."
978
00:43:09,435 --> 00:43:10,803
"Somebody got killed
over there."
979
00:43:10,907 --> 00:43:11,874
[gun cocking]
980
00:43:11,976 --> 00:43:15,346
He was just
killing people too much.
981
00:43:20,601 --> 00:43:23,037
They sent him to,
I think it was Georgia.
982
00:43:24,579 --> 00:43:27,582
Well, while he was there,
Preacher told John Cuff
983
00:43:27,688 --> 00:43:30,390
that, "Malik said
that he wanted to kill you."
984
00:43:31,398 --> 00:43:34,368
John said,
"Okay, well, that's it.
985
00:43:34,474 --> 00:43:35,742
He gots to go."
986
00:43:41,159 --> 00:43:42,561
[Joe Walsh]
They had their special vote
987
00:43:42,664 --> 00:43:44,766
and, you know,
Preacher voted thumbs down
988
00:43:44,870 --> 00:43:46,906
and everybody else
voted thumbs down.
989
00:43:49,283 --> 00:43:52,286
Now they had to
get Malik back, you know, to the apartment.
990
00:43:52,392 --> 00:43:54,794
They brought Malik back on
to some, you know, story
991
00:43:54,899 --> 00:43:56,868
that they were gonna
kill somebody else,
992
00:43:56,972 --> 00:43:58,540
and then they brought Malik
down to the basement.
993
00:44:00,281 --> 00:44:03,084
He believed that someone else
is getting whacked,
994
00:44:03,189 --> 00:44:05,158
and, in fact,
he was the target.
995
00:44:08,338 --> 00:44:10,139
[Collins] Then,
when he came back and got out of the cab,
996
00:44:10,242 --> 00:44:11,377
I was in front of
the building.
997
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,115
I seen him, I said,
"What's up, Malik?"
998
00:44:13,218 --> 00:44:14,720
You know, and he went
into the building,
999
00:44:14,823 --> 00:44:16,391
everyone was saying,
"What's up, Malik?"
1000
00:44:18,700 --> 00:44:20,235
They all went
into the building
1001
00:44:20,940 --> 00:44:22,375
and I never seen him again.
1002
00:44:26,957 --> 00:44:29,926
[Ray Brennan] They went
downstairs to the basement,
1003
00:44:31,370 --> 00:44:32,905
and as they enter,
1004
00:44:33,008 --> 00:44:36,078
Malik was turning on a radio.
1005
00:44:36,184 --> 00:44:37,218
[cassette player clicks]
1006
00:44:37,321 --> 00:44:39,323
[indistinct singing on radio]
1007
00:44:39,427 --> 00:44:41,228
[Gregg Soffer] They were so
concerned about Malik
1008
00:44:41,332 --> 00:44:43,901
because he was so good
at what he did that they needed to sneak up on him.
1009
00:44:47,650 --> 00:44:48,951
[Brennan] At that point...
1010
00:44:49,054 --> 00:44:50,255
-[air whooshes]
-[gun cocking]
1011
00:44:50,358 --> 00:44:52,193
...John Cuff shot Malik
in the head...
1012
00:44:52,297 --> 00:44:53,598
[indistinct music
playing on radio]
1013
00:44:53,700 --> 00:44:55,369
...as he was
turning up the radio.
1014
00:44:56,441 --> 00:44:57,476
[cassette player clicks]
1015
00:44:58,113 --> 00:44:59,214
[gunshot]
1016
00:45:02,593 --> 00:45:04,228
He was killed
in the very basement
1017
00:45:04,331 --> 00:45:08,135
that he had
supervised the execution of other individuals.
1018
00:45:10,849 --> 00:45:12,084
This is a killer
1019
00:45:14,961 --> 00:45:16,296
and crew
1020
00:45:18,504 --> 00:45:21,074
that killed indiscriminately,
1021
00:45:21,848 --> 00:45:24,484
that tortured indiscriminately
1022
00:45:24,589 --> 00:45:27,525
in the very building
operated by the Preacher,
1023
00:45:29,035 --> 00:45:31,170
and I suspect
it occurred in one place
1024
00:45:31,274 --> 00:45:32,843
'cause it was
easily manageable.
1025
00:45:35,085 --> 00:45:36,253
[gunshot]
1026
00:45:38,529 --> 00:45:39,663
-[duct tape rips]
-[saw slicing]
1027
00:45:39,766 --> 00:45:42,368
[Brennan] Preacher wanted
his body dismembered,
1028
00:45:43,175 --> 00:45:45,210
and that's what they did,
1029
00:45:45,314 --> 00:45:46,616
they cut Malik's body up.
1030
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,788
[electric saw whirring]
1031
00:45:48,892 --> 00:45:51,661
They were cutting up
the torso,
1032
00:45:51,766 --> 00:45:53,268
well, with an electric saw...
1033
00:45:53,371 --> 00:45:54,672
[electric saw whirring]
1034
00:45:54,775 --> 00:45:57,211
...and then the blade
got entangled with the large intestine.
1035
00:45:57,316 --> 00:45:59,385
[electric saw whirring]
1036
00:45:59,489 --> 00:46:02,192
When they switched out
the blade of the skill saw,
1037
00:46:02,297 --> 00:46:03,731
they tossed it
over their shoulder
1038
00:46:03,835 --> 00:46:06,204
and threw it into
the corner of the basement.
1039
00:46:06,308 --> 00:46:08,243
[electric saw whirring]
1040
00:46:08,347 --> 00:46:11,183
But then they were
extremely careful
1041
00:46:11,289 --> 00:46:14,493
about washing down
the basement floor with acetone.
1042
00:46:14,599 --> 00:46:17,502
You could eat off
the basement floor even after a murder.
1043
00:46:19,479 --> 00:46:22,582
[Brennan] They took
Malik's head and his arms
1044
00:46:22,688 --> 00:46:24,123
in a knapsack
1045
00:46:24,226 --> 00:46:26,195
to a location
on Bradhurst Avenue.
1046
00:46:26,299 --> 00:46:28,368
They were put
in the refrigerator overnight.
1047
00:46:28,472 --> 00:46:32,876
I know for a fact
that the head was in the refrigerator
1048
00:46:32,984 --> 00:46:34,886
because, during the course
of the investigation,
1049
00:46:34,990 --> 00:46:37,026
I opened up the refrigerator
and all the blood was in there
1050
00:46:37,130 --> 00:46:38,765
and the blood
came back to Malik.
1051
00:46:38,868 --> 00:46:41,370
So they did decapitate him,
they did keep the head there,
1052
00:46:41,475 --> 00:46:44,612
and they did their thing
to try to, you know, keep everybody in line.
1053
00:46:53,844 --> 00:46:56,747
[Brennan] The following day,
three or four of the crew
1054
00:46:56,852 --> 00:46:58,754
attempted to remove a tattoo.
1055
00:46:58,858 --> 00:47:01,628
-[water sloshing]
-It said, "Dad."
1056
00:47:03,705 --> 00:47:05,574
That was the tattoo on the arm
1057
00:47:05,678 --> 00:47:07,947
that Preacher
wanted them to remove
1058
00:47:09,222 --> 00:47:12,358
because, if found, it could be
connected to Preacher.
1059
00:47:12,464 --> 00:47:14,733
They tried to remove
Malik's tattoo with acetone.
1060
00:47:15,940 --> 00:47:17,242
[Brennan]
And it wasn't working,
1061
00:47:17,345 --> 00:47:20,782
so they took the bucket
with the body parts
1062
00:47:20,888 --> 00:47:24,591
over to the abandoned building
a couple of doors over
1063
00:47:24,699 --> 00:47:26,767
and they threw them down
into the building.
1064
00:47:29,379 --> 00:47:31,848
Once Preacher
found out about that,
1065
00:47:31,953 --> 00:47:36,057
he directed them
to retrieve the body parts.
1066
00:47:36,165 --> 00:47:38,968
He didn't want them found
in that building
1067
00:47:39,073 --> 00:47:41,142
because of the tattoo on arm.
1068
00:47:42,249 --> 00:47:45,319
[Collins] They was trying
to retrieve body parts.
1069
00:47:48,634 --> 00:47:51,270
Pulled it out,
there was Malik's head,
1070
00:47:51,375 --> 00:47:53,010
and then they start
playing soccer with it.
1071
00:47:53,949 --> 00:47:55,351
-[interviewer speaking]
-Yeah.
1072
00:47:56,524 --> 00:47:57,525
Yeah.
1073
00:48:02,106 --> 00:48:04,575
We never saw any signs
of Malik, you know,
1074
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,149
overstepping his bounds
or overstepping loyalty,
1075
00:48:08,458 --> 00:48:09,992
and if you're down
in the basement,
1076
00:48:10,096 --> 00:48:11,597
you know, sewing up his body,
1077
00:48:13,238 --> 00:48:16,007
and he hasn't done anything
to really deserve it,
1078
00:48:16,113 --> 00:48:17,581
what's going through
your mind?
1079
00:48:17,684 --> 00:48:19,152
You know, "Am I next?"
1080
00:48:20,726 --> 00:48:23,896
Because he was so ruthless
and they feared him so much,
1081
00:48:24,002 --> 00:48:26,071
even if they didn't
step out of line,
1082
00:48:26,175 --> 00:48:28,077
they knew they were
gonna be killed, so...
1083
00:48:28,181 --> 00:48:30,083
But, eventually,
it was Preacher
1084
00:48:30,186 --> 00:48:32,021
who was the undoing
of the crew.
1085
00:48:41,786 --> 00:48:42,720
[Donnie Wahlberg]
Three months after
1086
00:48:42,823 --> 00:48:44,825
the brutal killing
of Malik Boatwright,
1087
00:48:44,929 --> 00:48:47,298
some of Preacher's
once loyal janitors
1088
00:48:47,402 --> 00:48:49,304
are terrified
they could be next.
1089
00:48:50,912 --> 00:48:52,848
With no idea
that his followers
1090
00:48:52,952 --> 00:48:54,887
are looking for
their exit strategy,
1091
00:48:55,860 --> 00:48:58,195
Preacher orders
yet another hit,
1092
00:48:58,300 --> 00:49:01,370
this time on a well known
Harlem drug dealer.
1093
00:49:01,475 --> 00:49:02,443
[sirens wailing]
1094
00:49:02,545 --> 00:49:03,946
[Jay Maher] There was
a double murder...
1095
00:49:04,049 --> 00:49:05,484
[sirens wailing]
1096
00:49:05,587 --> 00:49:07,256
...at 120th and 7th Avenue
1097
00:49:07,359 --> 00:49:09,628
that was carried out
by the Preacher crew.
1098
00:49:09,733 --> 00:49:12,102
[indistinct
police radio chatter]
1099
00:49:12,206 --> 00:49:14,141
It was a person
named James Brunson.
1100
00:49:14,245 --> 00:49:15,813
His nickname was Jamie O,
1101
00:49:17,154 --> 00:49:18,522
and then there was Ali-MO,
1102
00:49:18,624 --> 00:49:20,459
whose name was Alex Brown.
1103
00:49:22,402 --> 00:49:24,137
[Billy] I was supposed to
kill Jamie O.
1104
00:49:24,709 --> 00:49:25,710
[man] Roger that.
1105
00:49:26,848 --> 00:49:28,417
[Billy] Ali-MO
reached for a pistol,
1106
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,388
and I ended up
shooting him once.
1107
00:49:30,492 --> 00:49:32,595
-[gun cocking]
-[gunshot]
1108
00:49:32,699 --> 00:49:34,868
I shot Jamie O
in the head 13 times
1109
00:49:37,846 --> 00:49:40,816
'cause I was told
to close his casket.
1110
00:49:44,933 --> 00:49:47,202
[Ms. Tee] My friend Jamie O
was definitely killed
1111
00:49:47,307 --> 00:49:50,310
by Preacher and his crew.
1112
00:49:50,416 --> 00:49:53,352
I got the phone call
and I was like, "Oh, wow,"
1113
00:49:54,627 --> 00:49:56,796
and I ran down to 7th Avenue
1114
00:49:56,901 --> 00:49:58,436
and I saw him
laying down on the ground.
1115
00:50:00,377 --> 00:50:04,248
Growing up in Harlem,
and seeing death a lot,
1116
00:50:04,356 --> 00:50:05,724
you kinda get numb to it.
1117
00:50:07,397 --> 00:50:09,900
[Donnie] At first,
it looks as if Preacher
1118
00:50:10,005 --> 00:50:12,574
is going to get away
with murder,
1119
00:50:12,679 --> 00:50:15,983
but after
working for four years to uncover enough evidence
1120
00:50:16,089 --> 00:50:20,927
to charge the most
dangerous man in Harlem with something, anything,
1121
00:50:21,037 --> 00:50:24,173
Jay Maher gets a big break.
1122
00:50:24,279 --> 00:50:25,581
[Maher] I walk into
the detective squad
1123
00:50:25,683 --> 00:50:28,419
and in the pen is the owner
and manager of a store,
1124
00:50:28,525 --> 00:50:30,994
I nicknamed him "Sunshine."
1125
00:50:31,098 --> 00:50:33,634
So I said, "Sunshine,
what are you doing here?" I thought he got robbed.
1126
00:50:33,739 --> 00:50:35,107
He goes,
"I need to speak to you.
1127
00:50:36,782 --> 00:50:38,850
I have someone
that wants to meet with you,
1128
00:50:38,954 --> 00:50:40,356
and he wants your help.
1129
00:50:40,459 --> 00:50:41,427
He's scared."
1130
00:50:41,529 --> 00:50:43,264
And I said, "Who's that?"
1131
00:50:43,367 --> 00:50:45,202
And he told me, "Larry Love."
1132
00:50:46,676 --> 00:50:50,847
[Donnie] Larry Love
allegedly peddles PCP, angel dust,
1133
00:50:50,955 --> 00:50:52,357
on the streets of Harlem.
1134
00:50:53,797 --> 00:50:55,265
[indistinct
police radio chatter]
1135
00:50:55,369 --> 00:50:58,038
[Maher] I said, "Larry Love
wants to come talk to me?"
1136
00:50:58,143 --> 00:51:00,345
And he said,
"Yes, but not here."
1137
00:51:01,251 --> 00:51:03,086
So, if you come
to my apartment tonight,
1138
00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:05,526
I'll send my family away
and you can meet him.
1139
00:51:07,236 --> 00:51:09,471
So I went to the Bronx
with my partner.
1140
00:51:09,575 --> 00:51:11,511
Larry Love comes
into the apartment,
1141
00:51:11,615 --> 00:51:14,484
he sits down,
and we begin talking,
1142
00:51:14,589 --> 00:51:17,426
and he tells me,
"You know about my boy, Jamie O?"
1143
00:51:17,532 --> 00:51:20,535
I said, "Yeah, I know
what happened to Jamie O and Ali-MO."
1144
00:51:22,178 --> 00:51:23,646
So, now he starts
talking about
1145
00:51:23,749 --> 00:51:25,350
it was the Preacher crew
1146
00:51:25,455 --> 00:51:27,790
and they're coming
after him now. He's afraid.
1147
00:51:31,371 --> 00:51:33,607
I said,
"Why is this going on?"
1148
00:51:33,711 --> 00:51:36,681
They want his business.
His business was called Milk,
1149
00:51:36,787 --> 00:51:40,090
and it was nicknamed Milk
because it was angel dust,
1150
00:51:40,196 --> 00:51:43,299
but they bought it
in such large quantities
1151
00:51:43,405 --> 00:51:45,141
that you can't put it
in a regular container,
1152
00:51:45,244 --> 00:51:47,446
it had to be put
in a glass milk bottle.
1153
00:51:48,754 --> 00:51:51,891
Jamie O and Ali-MO
were also partners,
1154
00:51:51,997 --> 00:51:53,832
and pushed back on Preacher,
1155
00:51:53,936 --> 00:51:55,037
and that's why
they were killed.
1156
00:51:55,139 --> 00:51:56,474
Now they're coming for him.
1157
00:51:57,379 --> 00:51:59,247
So he told me
he needs my help.
1158
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:01,454
[sirens wailing]
1159
00:52:01,558 --> 00:52:03,793
[Donnie] Larry will testify
that Preacher and his crew
1160
00:52:03,897 --> 00:52:05,899
committed several murders
1161
00:52:06,003 --> 00:52:07,939
if the government
will protect him.
1162
00:52:08,043 --> 00:52:10,478
Jay Maher needs to
run this request
1163
00:52:10,584 --> 00:52:12,118
up his chain of command.
1164
00:52:13,893 --> 00:52:15,561
[Maher] I can't remember
how many days later it was
1165
00:52:15,664 --> 00:52:17,266
that my pager
starts going off,
1166
00:52:17,369 --> 00:52:20,472
and it's Larry Love's code,
1167
00:52:20,578 --> 00:52:23,314
and a phone number,
and then 911, 911 .
1168
00:52:24,089 --> 00:52:25,423
So now I get up and I call
1169
00:52:25,526 --> 00:52:29,062
and it's a payphone
in the courthouse at 100 Centre Street,
1170
00:52:29,169 --> 00:52:30,604
and he says,
"They're out there right now.
1171
00:52:30,707 --> 00:52:32,910
They're sitting in a van
right next to my car.
1172
00:52:33,014 --> 00:52:34,882
Cuff and Preacher are in there
and they're gonna kill me."
1173
00:52:37,359 --> 00:52:39,128
[Walsh]
This particular individual had what we call in the trade,
1174
00:52:39,232 --> 00:52:41,134
he had street cred.
1175
00:52:41,238 --> 00:52:44,341
So when this guy, who had
committed murders himself,
1176
00:52:44,447 --> 00:52:47,083
is talking about
getting murdered,
1177
00:52:47,188 --> 00:52:48,323
and you could
hear in his voice
1178
00:52:48,425 --> 00:52:50,894
how scared he was,
we went into action.
1179
00:52:50,999 --> 00:52:52,934
So I said, "Okay,
stay in the courthouse.
1180
00:52:53,038 --> 00:52:54,340
Let me get
some people down there."
1181
00:52:56,548 --> 00:53:00,652
This is a criminal courthouse,
and it's around lunchtime.
1182
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,563
I know these people are nuts,
but that's nuts.
1183
00:53:03,668 --> 00:53:05,169
The middle of the afternoon
in front of a courthouse,
1184
00:53:05,273 --> 00:53:07,108
they're gonna
try to whack somebody?
1185
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,189
So I get down there,
and I see the van
1186
00:53:13,296 --> 00:53:15,598
and I could see,
from the side mirrors,
1187
00:53:15,703 --> 00:53:17,204
there's people
sitting in the van,
1188
00:53:17,308 --> 00:53:19,043
and they're right next to
Larry Love's car,
1189
00:53:20,349 --> 00:53:22,418
and then, for some reason,
1190
00:53:22,523 --> 00:53:24,224
Larry Love comes
walking out of the courthouse,
1191
00:53:24,328 --> 00:53:26,163
even though I told not to,
1192
00:53:26,266 --> 00:53:28,501
and he runs
across the parking lot and jumps in the car,
1193
00:53:28,606 --> 00:53:31,142
and it's like, "Oh, great."
1194
00:53:31,247 --> 00:53:33,183
The cooperating witness
panics. [laughs]
1195
00:53:33,287 --> 00:53:35,055
He throws it in reverse
and takes off
1196
00:53:35,827 --> 00:53:38,196
and goes the wrong way.
1197
00:53:38,301 --> 00:53:40,403
The traffic's coming this way.
He's backing up into the traffic.
1198
00:53:40,507 --> 00:53:42,275
[car horns beeping]
1199
00:53:42,379 --> 00:53:44,848
He must have went
about 8 or 10 blocks
1200
00:53:44,953 --> 00:53:45,954
against the traffic...
1201
00:53:46,056 --> 00:53:47,758
[car horns beeping]
1202
00:53:47,862 --> 00:53:50,464
...and if you watched it
unfold before your eyes,
1203
00:53:50,569 --> 00:53:52,204
[chuckling] he was a pretty
damn good driver
1204
00:53:52,307 --> 00:53:53,409
'cause he didn't
hit any of the cars
1205
00:53:53,511 --> 00:53:55,312
that were coming
right towards him.
1206
00:53:55,417 --> 00:53:57,852
So, now I see the van's
reverse lights come on,
1207
00:53:57,956 --> 00:53:59,792
so I start running
towards the van,
1208
00:53:59,896 --> 00:54:02,598
and Cuff
looks over his shoulder and sees me
1209
00:54:02,704 --> 00:54:04,038
and stops just for a second,
1210
00:54:04,141 --> 00:54:07,378
and takes off with traffic,
the opposite way.
1211
00:54:07,484 --> 00:54:08,652
[tires screeching]
1212
00:54:08,755 --> 00:54:10,123
So now the chase is on.
1213
00:54:11,095 --> 00:54:13,030
We're running on foot
through traffic.
1214
00:54:13,134 --> 00:54:16,637
And we're running,
and now all chaos has broken loose.
1215
00:54:16,744 --> 00:54:18,178
All these people
that are there for court,
1216
00:54:18,281 --> 00:54:19,983
they're law
enforcement officers,
1217
00:54:20,087 --> 00:54:22,423
all get involved in the chase.
1218
00:54:22,527 --> 00:54:24,362
I remember we went over
the city wide radio,
1219
00:54:24,466 --> 00:54:26,468
"Three guys
running with guns."
1220
00:54:26,572 --> 00:54:27,607
They didn't know we were cops.
1221
00:54:29,180 --> 00:54:30,982
We'll, to make
a long story short, we get to the van.
1222
00:54:31,085 --> 00:54:33,788
It's Preacher,
it is John Cuff in the van...
1223
00:54:33,893 --> 00:54:35,661
[indistinct
police radio chatter]
1224
00:54:35,765 --> 00:54:38,735
...and we pull them over,
we pull them out of the van,
1225
00:54:38,841 --> 00:54:42,011
and inside the van
are Halloween masks,
1226
00:54:42,117 --> 00:54:45,320
duct tape, ties,
and a lead pipe.
1227
00:54:45,426 --> 00:54:47,462
You know, it doesn't take
a rocket scientist [chuckling]
1228
00:54:47,566 --> 00:54:49,267
to figure out
what was gonna happen.
1229
00:54:50,207 --> 00:54:51,541
[police radio chatter]
1230
00:54:51,643 --> 00:54:53,312
Of course,
we lock 'em up on the spot.
1231
00:54:53,416 --> 00:54:55,485
[police radio chatter]
1232
00:54:55,589 --> 00:54:57,691
But the US Attorney
said we don't have anything to hold 'em on.
1233
00:54:57,795 --> 00:54:59,864
Two and two makes four
with the masks and the pipe
1234
00:54:59,968 --> 00:55:01,302
and the flex ties
and everything,
1235
00:55:02,241 --> 00:55:04,343
but he didn't
commit the covert act.
1236
00:55:04,447 --> 00:55:07,183
He didn't get out of the van
and kidnap the CW and kill him.
1237
00:55:07,289 --> 00:55:08,423
[prison bell rings]
1238
00:55:09,997 --> 00:55:12,166
So he was eventually released.
1239
00:55:12,270 --> 00:55:14,038
And I'll never forget,
you know,
1240
00:55:14,141 --> 00:55:16,410
when he was released,
he had to walk right by us,
1241
00:55:16,515 --> 00:55:18,851
and he just looked at us
and smiled
1242
00:55:18,955 --> 00:55:20,957
like, "You're never
gonna get me."
1243
00:55:23,100 --> 00:55:26,871
[Donnie]
Preacher is off the hook and back on the street
1244
00:55:26,978 --> 00:55:29,914
where his murderous
rampage continues.
1245
00:55:37,408 --> 00:55:39,878
[Walsh] When Sheila Berry
was murdered, it was heartbreaking.
1246
00:55:40,751 --> 00:55:43,387
She was a victim
in all sense of the word.
1247
00:55:43,492 --> 00:55:45,828
I mean,
put it in capital letters.
1248
00:55:45,932 --> 00:55:47,300
[Collins] She was sweet.
1249
00:55:47,403 --> 00:55:49,805
Had she had her life together,
she would have been a nice person.
1250
00:55:49,911 --> 00:55:54,248
[Barry] Sheila would sometimes
transport drugs.
1251
00:55:54,356 --> 00:55:56,525
Not too often because
she was a drug addict,
1252
00:55:56,629 --> 00:55:58,431
so Preacher
couldn't trust her.
1253
00:56:00,441 --> 00:56:01,542
[Walsh] What happened was
1254
00:56:01,644 --> 00:56:04,247
Preacher's crew had ripped off
another drug dealer,
1255
00:56:04,352 --> 00:56:05,520
and they weren't
gonna pay him.
1256
00:56:07,996 --> 00:56:12,701
They decided to,
"Okay, let's play it off on somebody else."
1257
00:56:12,810 --> 00:56:14,778
So they told
the other drug dealers
1258
00:56:14,881 --> 00:56:17,851
that Sheila Berry
had ripped them off
1259
00:56:17,957 --> 00:56:19,225
and that they would
take care of it.
1260
00:56:23,006 --> 00:56:25,174
[Barry] I was told
she stole some work.
1261
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,215
So, if you steal...
1262
00:56:28,153 --> 00:56:29,321
I'm a janitor.
1263
00:56:29,423 --> 00:56:30,824
If I was around at the time,
1264
00:56:30,927 --> 00:56:32,929
I'd probably be the one
that have killed her.
1265
00:56:35,608 --> 00:56:39,211
[Walsh] She was an aspiring
rap artist slash actress,
1266
00:56:39,318 --> 00:56:41,421
but really into music,
1267
00:56:41,525 --> 00:56:43,293
so they brought her
up to the apartment,
1268
00:56:43,396 --> 00:56:45,999
and the guys, they wanted her
to listen to another track
1269
00:56:46,105 --> 00:56:48,107
that would help
her music career...
1270
00:56:48,210 --> 00:56:49,845
[music playing]
1271
00:56:49,949 --> 00:56:52,485
-...and they put
headphones on her and... -[gun cocking]
1272
00:56:52,590 --> 00:56:53,858
...they shot her in the head.
1273
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,161
[gunshot]
1274
00:56:57,871 --> 00:57:01,808
[Collins] Sheila,
everyone knew that she didn't steal no drugs.
1275
00:57:02,685 --> 00:57:04,487
They knew she didn't do it,
1276
00:57:04,591 --> 00:57:06,926
but the blame died with her.
1277
00:57:09,671 --> 00:57:12,541
[Early] These countless
number of killings
1278
00:57:12,647 --> 00:57:16,217
are a reflection of
the intensity of Preacher
1279
00:57:16,324 --> 00:57:20,128
that allows him to order death
1280
00:57:20,235 --> 00:57:24,139
in a way that
makes him a terrorist.
1281
00:57:25,451 --> 00:57:26,785
[Brennan] And they
took her body,
1282
00:57:26,887 --> 00:57:28,722
and it was like
one or two buildings over,
1283
00:57:28,827 --> 00:57:31,796
it was abandoned
and it was all boarded up.
1284
00:57:32,704 --> 00:57:34,906
But there was
a hole in the roof,
1285
00:57:35,011 --> 00:57:37,047
so they brought her body
across the rooftops
1286
00:57:37,151 --> 00:57:39,453
and they dumped the body
down into the building.
1287
00:57:44,839 --> 00:57:47,375
Sheila Berry joins
the long list of people
1288
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,349
murdered by Preacher's crew,
1289
00:57:49,452 --> 00:57:52,622
who kill without question
on his command.
1290
00:57:52,729 --> 00:57:55,165
But whether Clarence Heatley
knows it or not,
1291
00:57:55,269 --> 00:57:57,638
the clock is ticking
on his reign of terror
1292
00:57:57,743 --> 00:57:59,378
and time is running out.
1293
00:58:09,476 --> 00:58:11,612
[Maher] A CI,
a confidential informant,
1294
00:58:11,716 --> 00:58:14,219
told me what car
the Preacher was driving.
1295
00:58:14,324 --> 00:58:16,359
One day, while I was out,
1296
00:58:16,463 --> 00:58:18,065
I see the car,
1297
00:58:18,168 --> 00:58:20,270
and it's like three o'clock
in the afternoon,
1298
00:58:21,177 --> 00:58:23,579
and it pulls over
to a fire hydrant.
1299
00:58:23,683 --> 00:58:25,518
I'm with a rookie detective,
and I was like,
1300
00:58:25,623 --> 00:58:27,791
"I just need to stop this car
and check this guy out."
1301
00:58:29,233 --> 00:58:31,836
So I go to get out of the car.
Preacher comes out of the car,
1302
00:58:31,941 --> 00:58:33,209
turns towards me,
1303
00:58:34,514 --> 00:58:36,116
sees it's me and jumps back in
1304
00:58:36,821 --> 00:58:37,822
and he takes off.
1305
00:58:39,295 --> 00:58:41,363
-[tires screeching]
-He's in a really fast sports car.
1306
00:58:41,467 --> 00:58:42,702
So, I'm chasing him
1307
00:58:42,805 --> 00:58:46,142
at three o'clock
in the afternoon down Bradhurst
1308
00:58:47,284 --> 00:58:49,787
over to St. Nicholas Avenue,
up St. Nicholas Avenue,
1309
00:58:49,892 --> 00:58:51,794
on the wrong side of the road.
1310
00:58:54,104 --> 00:58:55,439
I'm able to get behind him,
1311
00:58:56,210 --> 00:58:58,045
but as I'm coming up
behind him,
1312
00:58:58,148 --> 00:58:59,650
another car gets between us.
1313
00:58:59,753 --> 00:59:02,456
He takes the first right
and gets stuck behind a truck.
1314
00:59:04,533 --> 00:59:05,868
But there's a car
in between us.
1315
00:59:05,971 --> 00:59:07,506
So I jump out now
1316
00:59:07,609 --> 00:59:11,313
and go to go towards Preacher,
but the truck move.
1317
00:59:13,861 --> 00:59:14,862
So when the truck moves,
1318
00:59:14,964 --> 00:59:16,132
Preacher's able
to get around it,
1319
00:59:18,206 --> 00:59:20,642
and I can't get around
the car in front of me, and I lose him.
1320
00:59:21,449 --> 00:59:24,652
[car horns beeping]
1321
00:59:24,758 --> 00:59:26,393
[Donnie] Preacher gets away,
1322
00:59:26,496 --> 00:59:30,367
but several weeks later,
the police track him down
1323
00:59:30,475 --> 00:59:32,877
and arrest him
for evading an officer
1324
00:59:32,981 --> 00:59:34,583
and reckless endangerment.
1325
00:59:35,456 --> 00:59:37,691
It's enough to keep him
behind bars...
1326
00:59:37,795 --> 00:59:39,931
-[flash bulb pops]
-...at least for now.
1327
00:59:42,542 --> 00:59:44,478
He gets put in
and held without bail,
1328
00:59:44,582 --> 00:59:47,018
and he's in
for a couple of months before we go to trial.
1329
00:59:47,123 --> 00:59:50,326
I go to trial with Heatley
and he beats it.
1330
00:59:51,167 --> 00:59:52,301
[Soffer] He beat that case,
1331
00:59:52,404 --> 00:59:54,606
so what does that tell the
people in the street, right?
1332
00:59:54,711 --> 00:59:56,112
It fed into that legend
1333
00:59:56,214 --> 00:59:59,051
that no one's ever gonna
actually put this guy away,
1334
00:59:59,157 --> 01:00:00,591
and no one's
ever gonna catch him
1335
01:00:00,694 --> 01:00:04,698
because no one's
ever going to break the loyalty oath to him,
1336
01:00:04,806 --> 01:00:07,008
and if they do,
they're gonna be dead before they can testify.
1337
01:00:07,113 --> 01:00:08,881
-[flesh thuds]
-[electric saw whirring]
1338
01:00:08,984 --> 01:00:10,386
[water sloshing]
1339
01:00:10,489 --> 01:00:11,824
[Walsh] After Preacher
gets off
1340
01:00:11,927 --> 01:00:14,996
the story went through
the streets of Harlem like a wildfire,
1341
01:00:15,103 --> 01:00:17,538
you know, he was picked up,
the police couldn't do anything.
1342
01:00:18,278 --> 01:00:19,980
So he started to think
1343
01:00:20,083 --> 01:00:23,286
he was even more invincible
than what he believed in.
1344
01:00:23,392 --> 01:00:26,462
Same thing happened with
the Italian mob in New York.
1345
01:00:26,568 --> 01:00:28,270
John Gotti beat the case,
1346
01:00:28,373 --> 01:00:30,575
and it ultimately
took the power of the federal government
1347
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,415
to go get him
and to finish him off.
1348
01:00:32,519 --> 01:00:35,688
[indistinct chatter]
1349
01:00:35,795 --> 01:00:37,263
[Donnie] Three years earlier,
1350
01:00:37,366 --> 01:00:40,469
the FBI finally put away
Preacher's idol,
1351
01:00:40,575 --> 01:00:45,447
Gambino family crime boss
John Gotti, the "Teflon Don."
1352
01:00:45,556 --> 01:00:47,724
Perhaps to avoid
a similar fate,
1353
01:00:47,830 --> 01:00:50,032
Preacher goes on offense.
1354
01:00:50,136 --> 01:00:53,506
His top lieutenant,
former cop John Cuff,
1355
01:00:53,612 --> 01:00:56,548
has his own informant
inside the task force.
1356
01:00:57,757 --> 01:01:01,261
John Cuff was
absolutely essential
1357
01:01:01,368 --> 01:01:03,270
for the Preacher and the crew.
1358
01:01:03,373 --> 01:01:04,508
Why?
1359
01:01:04,611 --> 01:01:07,881
Because he had access to the
law enforcement community.
1360
01:01:07,987 --> 01:01:10,089
The idea that there's
a police officer out there
1361
01:01:10,193 --> 01:01:15,098
who's working for
this big criminal organization that kills people is scary.
1362
01:01:15,208 --> 01:01:17,277
[Maher] So now
the information came out
1363
01:01:17,381 --> 01:01:20,250
that Cuff has someone
in the squad.
1364
01:01:21,358 --> 01:01:23,928
I was transferred, like that.
1365
01:01:24,033 --> 01:01:26,835
I found out the name
well after the fact,
1366
01:01:26,941 --> 01:01:29,310
and it was a guy
that I considered a friend
1367
01:01:29,415 --> 01:01:32,618
and I had worked with
for several years,
1368
01:01:32,724 --> 01:01:35,527
and if it had not been
for me reading this,
1369
01:01:35,633 --> 01:01:37,568
I would never
have believed it,
1370
01:01:38,608 --> 01:01:41,477
but now I know
why they moved so quickly
1371
01:01:41,583 --> 01:01:43,051
in moving me out of there.
1372
01:01:46,129 --> 01:01:47,430
I was made in undercover.
1373
01:01:47,533 --> 01:01:49,636
They took all my information,
1374
01:01:49,740 --> 01:01:51,108
literally all of
my information
1375
01:01:51,211 --> 01:01:52,412
out of the computer.
1376
01:01:52,514 --> 01:01:53,882
So I became a number.
1377
01:01:54,854 --> 01:01:56,956
I was given
confidential vehicles.
1378
01:01:57,060 --> 01:01:59,329
My personal plates
were red flagged,
1379
01:01:59,434 --> 01:02:02,370
which means,
if anybody runs my tags,
1380
01:02:02,476 --> 01:02:04,145
the department
is notified immediately,
1381
01:02:05,116 --> 01:02:06,351
and it turned out
that my plate
1382
01:02:06,454 --> 01:02:08,556
had been run several times.
1383
01:02:08,660 --> 01:02:10,095
So they wired up my house,
1384
01:02:10,198 --> 01:02:11,566
they had directed patrol...
1385
01:02:11,669 --> 01:02:13,738
I lived in an area that was
patrolled by state police,
1386
01:02:13,842 --> 01:02:17,312
so if an alarm went off,
they would respond.
1387
01:02:17,418 --> 01:02:19,053
They couldn't take me
off the case at the time
1388
01:02:19,157 --> 01:02:21,526
because I was
the only one that actually knew the players.
1389
01:02:22,199 --> 01:02:23,467
So I had to stay in it.
1390
01:02:23,570 --> 01:02:27,307
[interviewer speaking]
1391
01:02:27,414 --> 01:02:30,417
I had, I think,
eight, seven, four,
1392
01:02:30,523 --> 01:02:32,125
and an infant. It sucked.
1393
01:02:33,799 --> 01:02:38,037
This was around the clock
security on all of the kids,
1394
01:02:38,145 --> 01:02:39,646
detectives sitting
at the schools,
1395
01:02:39,749 --> 01:02:41,785
taking them back and forth
to the schools,
1396
01:02:42,457 --> 01:02:44,693
going grocery shopping.
1397
01:02:44,797 --> 01:02:47,199
It was really crazy, intense.
1398
01:02:48,641 --> 01:02:50,643
[Donnie] Preacher is
fighting it out with the feds,
1399
01:02:51,750 --> 01:02:53,251
but there's also
trouble brewing
1400
01:02:53,354 --> 01:02:56,391
inside his own deadly crew
1401
01:02:56,497 --> 01:02:59,567
when Johnny "Apple" Porter,
the man who was allegedly
1402
01:02:59,673 --> 01:03:04,077
involved in the murder
of his nephew, Donnell Porter, gets out of line.
1403
01:03:04,754 --> 01:03:05,988
[Collins] I was out of town
1404
01:03:06,091 --> 01:03:07,860
and Apple Porter
1405
01:03:09,134 --> 01:03:11,970
put his hands on my daughter
and tried to rape her.
1406
01:03:15,585 --> 01:03:16,820
I come home.
1407
01:03:17,624 --> 01:03:19,292
Two or three days later,
1408
01:03:19,396 --> 01:03:22,833
Apple Porter comes
running out of the building
1409
01:03:22,939 --> 01:03:24,774
and jumps into my front seat.
1410
01:03:25,713 --> 01:03:28,216
He wanted me
to drive him to Harlem
1411
01:03:28,321 --> 01:03:29,489
to go get a bag of smoke.
1412
01:03:30,527 --> 01:03:32,029
We ride to Harlem.
1413
01:03:32,132 --> 01:03:33,900
We stop at a stop sign.
1414
01:03:35,776 --> 01:03:37,911
This dude got his feet
on my dashboard.
1415
01:03:38,015 --> 01:03:40,551
He's looking out the window,
and these little kids are getting out of school.
1416
01:03:40,656 --> 01:03:44,794
These kids had to be
9, 12, 13 years old.
1417
01:03:44,902 --> 01:03:47,138
Little girls
walking down the street with skirts on.
1418
01:03:47,243 --> 01:03:49,445
He's leaning back and he said,
"Look at this little bitch.
1419
01:03:49,549 --> 01:03:50,984
I'll rape this little bitch."
1420
01:03:54,095 --> 01:03:56,264
The anger hit me so hard
1421
01:03:57,472 --> 01:03:58,573
that I just forget everything.
1422
01:03:58,675 --> 01:04:01,011
[train blares]
1423
01:04:01,115 --> 01:04:03,250
And I had a gun in my car,
1424
01:04:03,355 --> 01:04:05,558
so I reached over
and got the gun and I hit him in the head...
1425
01:04:05,662 --> 01:04:06,729
-[gunshot]
-...bam!
1426
01:04:08,871 --> 01:04:10,472
I shot him with a 22.
1427
01:04:10,576 --> 01:04:12,444
When I hit him in the back
the second time,
1428
01:04:12,548 --> 01:04:15,351
this dude opened up the door
and jumped out of the car.
1429
01:04:16,259 --> 01:04:18,595
I'm running back,
I'ma hit him again,
1430
01:04:18,699 --> 01:04:21,468
but the school crossing guard
jumped over him and said,
1431
01:04:21,573 --> 01:04:23,375
"Please don't do it.
It ain't worth it."
1432
01:04:24,181 --> 01:04:26,416
So I jumped back into the car
1433
01:04:26,521 --> 01:04:28,357
and I drove straight back
to the headquarters
1434
01:04:29,697 --> 01:04:31,266
and I went and seen John Cuff.
1435
01:04:32,237 --> 01:04:33,906
I told him what happened.
1436
01:04:34,010 --> 01:04:36,112
-As soon as I said that,
the phone rang... -[phone ringing]
1437
01:04:36,216 --> 01:04:37,484
...and it was Porter's sister.
1438
01:04:39,190 --> 01:04:40,358
She was at the hospital
with him.
1439
01:04:41,765 --> 01:04:43,767
She said,
"Popcorn just shot Apple."
1440
01:04:43,871 --> 01:04:45,205
He was like,
"Well, how is he doing?"
1441
01:04:45,309 --> 01:04:47,578
She's like, "He's okay.
He's gonna be all right."
1442
01:04:47,682 --> 01:04:49,150
He said that,
"We'll handle it."
1443
01:04:50,456 --> 01:04:51,524
And I know what that mean.
1444
01:04:52,897 --> 01:04:54,231
-So he hung up the phone...
-[phone clicks]
1445
01:04:54,334 --> 01:04:55,435
...and I looked at Jack,
1446
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,242
and I said, "Yo,
I know what y'all said,
1447
01:05:00,285 --> 01:05:02,220
but I did that.
1448
01:05:02,323 --> 01:05:05,426
My family has nothing
to do with this. It's me.
1449
01:05:06,101 --> 01:05:07,736
I know what y'all gonna do.
1450
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:09,041
Can I write my family a letter
1451
01:05:09,143 --> 01:05:11,145
and let them know
I love them?"
1452
01:05:11,249 --> 01:05:13,551
And Jack looked at me
and he said, "You know what?
1453
01:05:14,225 --> 01:05:15,393
We don't like that [bleep].
1454
01:05:16,196 --> 01:05:17,464
Just go lay low."
1455
01:05:18,403 --> 01:05:19,637
And that's how that happened.
1456
01:05:22,816 --> 01:05:25,485
[Donnie] No longer a member
of Preacher's family,
1457
01:05:25,590 --> 01:05:28,327
Apple Porter goes looking
for new friends
1458
01:05:28,432 --> 01:05:29,900
who can keep him safe.
1459
01:05:31,139 --> 01:05:33,909
Apple Porter was basically
scared for his life.
1460
01:05:35,251 --> 01:05:36,920
They found out Preacher
had turned on him.
1461
01:05:38,494 --> 01:05:40,162
The word's out on the street,
"You're dead."
1462
01:05:41,335 --> 01:05:43,371
And then you get
what you can only hope for is,
1463
01:05:43,475 --> 01:05:45,377
in the FBI or [chuckles]
in law enforcement
1464
01:05:45,481 --> 01:05:46,482
-you get the...
-[knocking]
1465
01:05:46,584 --> 01:05:48,953
...you know, the knock.
"Hey, we needs to talk."
1466
01:05:50,428 --> 01:05:53,131
That's a quote from Apple.
"We needs to talk."
1467
01:05:57,949 --> 01:06:00,152
[Thomas Freeman Jr.] One of
Preacher's lieutenants
1468
01:06:00,256 --> 01:06:02,892
gave police the location
of Sheila Berry's body.
1469
01:06:02,997 --> 01:06:03,931
[inaudible]
1470
01:06:07,811 --> 01:06:09,079
[gunshot]
1471
01:06:09,182 --> 01:06:11,517
They had dumped
her body in one of the abandoned buildings,
1472
01:06:11,621 --> 01:06:13,857
and the roof
and five of the floors
1473
01:06:13,962 --> 01:06:15,530
had collapsed on top of her.
1474
01:06:16,502 --> 01:06:18,704
So now it's part
of the investigation.
1475
01:06:18,809 --> 01:06:20,411
You know, the US
attorney's office goes, "Okay,
1476
01:06:20,514 --> 01:06:22,349
we need to prove
that they killed her,"
1477
01:06:22,453 --> 01:06:24,789
and what's better proof
than, you know,
1478
01:06:24,893 --> 01:06:28,130
finding, you know, her body?
1479
01:06:28,236 --> 01:06:33,074
But you always wonder
whether a cooperating witness tells you the truth.
1480
01:06:33,184 --> 01:06:37,121
We dug in that building for
five days, almost six days,
1481
01:06:37,228 --> 01:06:38,930
and you're wondering,
as you keep going down,
1482
01:06:39,033 --> 01:06:41,869
layer by layer by layer,
you know,
1483
01:06:41,975 --> 01:06:43,777
was that cooperative witness
telling us the truth?
1484
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:45,048
[gunshot]
1485
01:06:45,151 --> 01:06:46,953
So we continued
to dig and dig,
1486
01:06:47,056 --> 01:06:50,126
and finally, on day six,
we found her body.
1487
01:06:52,104 --> 01:06:54,373
Now breaking news.
A chilling discovery.
1488
01:06:54,478 --> 01:06:57,380
Police knew there were
victims of a bloody drug war buried in town.
1489
01:06:57,487 --> 01:06:59,288
Now they think they have one.
1490
01:06:59,391 --> 01:07:00,793
[Soffer] She was skeletonized.
1491
01:07:01,732 --> 01:07:03,634
She had a durag on her head
1492
01:07:03,737 --> 01:07:05,272
-which had
a bullet hole in it. -[gun cocking]
1493
01:07:05,375 --> 01:07:07,677
And she was wearing a ring
that I remember
1494
01:07:07,782 --> 01:07:09,885
we were able
to help identify her.
1495
01:07:09,989 --> 01:07:12,258
[Freeman Jr.] Once they
recovered that body,
1496
01:07:12,362 --> 01:07:14,664
they had
what they needed to go in and start making arrests,
1497
01:07:14,769 --> 01:07:17,805
and that's when everything
came crashing down.
1498
01:07:33,891 --> 01:07:36,260
Once the indictments
were sealed and everything,
1499
01:07:37,334 --> 01:07:38,902
now we gotta find Preacher.
1500
01:07:41,446 --> 01:07:43,348
Preacher had not been seen
for like three weeks.
1501
01:07:44,454 --> 01:07:46,122
Did he flee?
1502
01:07:46,226 --> 01:07:49,196
Did he get word on the street?
Did Cuff get word to him?
1503
01:07:52,075 --> 01:07:54,378
Finally, he came
out of his apartment.
1504
01:07:57,324 --> 01:07:59,092
He was on his way
to the payphone...
1505
01:07:59,196 --> 01:08:00,965
[phone clicks]
1506
01:08:01,068 --> 01:08:03,103
...and the two
crack NYPD detectives
1507
01:08:03,207 --> 01:08:04,442
that were
part of our task force
1508
01:08:05,648 --> 01:08:07,517
jumped up and arrested him.
1509
01:08:11,130 --> 01:08:12,765
It was an opportunity
to grab him,
1510
01:08:14,038 --> 01:08:15,073
and they grabbed him.
1511
01:08:16,713 --> 01:08:17,714
Even when he was arrested...
1512
01:08:17,816 --> 01:08:19,384
[handcuffs jingle]
1513
01:08:19,487 --> 01:08:21,889
...he still had
this air of invincibility,
1514
01:08:25,438 --> 01:08:27,374
like, "I'm gonna
beat this case."
1515
01:08:35,868 --> 01:08:38,037
[Maher] When I spoke to him
after the arrest,
1516
01:08:38,141 --> 01:08:39,609
his demeanor was shocking.
1517
01:08:39,712 --> 01:08:41,714
He actually told me
he was happy to see me.
1518
01:08:43,021 --> 01:08:45,123
That was not what
I was expecting to hear,
1519
01:08:45,227 --> 01:08:48,931
but then what
he followed that up with was death threats.
1520
01:08:52,615 --> 01:08:54,117
[Walsh] We were sitting
in a very small room
1521
01:08:54,220 --> 01:08:55,822
and we don't have any weapons
1522
01:08:55,925 --> 01:08:57,526
if anything breaks bad,
so to speak.
1523
01:09:00,472 --> 01:09:02,507
Preacher tested me there.
1524
01:09:02,611 --> 01:09:04,313
He looked right at me
and said, you know,
1525
01:09:04,416 --> 01:09:05,584
"Who the hell are you?"
1526
01:09:07,257 --> 01:09:08,759
I looked him right in the eye
1527
01:09:08,862 --> 01:09:11,030
and I just said, "I'm the man
that's gonna put you in the electric chair."
1528
01:09:12,539 --> 01:09:14,074
He just shook his head like,
1529
01:09:14,177 --> 01:09:16,112
"Yeah, he's the real deal."
1530
01:09:17,921 --> 01:09:19,723
[Freeman Jr.]
When the feds indict you,
1531
01:09:19,827 --> 01:09:23,297
they give you the option
of what you'll be facing if you go to trial,
1532
01:09:23,403 --> 01:09:26,072
and in Preacher's case,
it was death.
1533
01:09:30,056 --> 01:09:33,626
The feds have
like a 90-something percent conviction rate,
1534
01:09:33,733 --> 01:09:36,937
so nobody wants to gamble
with their life.
1535
01:09:38,647 --> 01:09:43,652
So at that point,
Preacher started cooperating.
1536
01:09:46,035 --> 01:09:49,806
I was shocked at how fast
Preacher flipped.
1537
01:09:52,153 --> 01:09:55,222
This is the guy that's
at the top of this whole food chain,
1538
01:09:55,328 --> 01:09:56,930
he is the apex predator,
1539
01:09:58,671 --> 01:10:03,176
and he flipped, like,
pretty much immediately.
1540
01:10:04,688 --> 01:10:07,457
[Soffer] I didn't think
Clarence "Preacher" Heatley or John Cuff
1541
01:10:07,564 --> 01:10:10,600
would ever plead guilty.
They didn't strike me as that kind of guy.
1542
01:10:10,705 --> 01:10:13,274
[Walsh] He realized
he was a dead duck
1543
01:10:13,379 --> 01:10:15,114
and he was trying
to cut a deal.
1544
01:10:15,219 --> 01:10:18,155
And he told some of
the co-defendants that,
1545
01:10:18,261 --> 01:10:21,731
"You guys are not going to
see past those doors again
1546
01:10:21,837 --> 01:10:23,806
because I'm telling."
1547
01:10:23,910 --> 01:10:25,511
He had no shame.
1548
01:10:25,615 --> 01:10:27,550
I just thought
that was just like, "Wow!"
1549
01:10:30,295 --> 01:10:31,930
[Billy] Out of everybody
in this crew,
1550
01:10:32,033 --> 01:10:34,068
he's the last one
I thought would fold.
1551
01:10:35,209 --> 01:10:36,377
But he's a manipulator.
1552
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:37,413
He's a user.
1553
01:10:38,485 --> 01:10:40,654
He tried to sacrifice us
to save himself.
1554
01:10:42,162 --> 01:10:44,665
[Walsh] I interviewed Preacher
numerous times.
1555
01:10:44,770 --> 01:10:46,238
You sit down
and you talk to this guy,
1556
01:10:46,341 --> 01:10:49,210
you realize that there is
something wrong there.
1557
01:10:49,316 --> 01:10:53,653
He was definitely,
in my opinion, you know, a psychotic.
1558
01:10:53,762 --> 01:10:56,532
Preacher is not just
your ordinary gangster,
1559
01:10:56,637 --> 01:10:59,473
not just your ordinary
serial killer.
1560
01:10:59,578 --> 01:11:00,946
He's a terrorist
1561
01:11:01,049 --> 01:11:04,086
who even
the serial killers fear.
1562
01:11:04,192 --> 01:11:06,527
When you look
in Preacher's eyes,
1563
01:11:06,633 --> 01:11:09,435
you just see space,
1564
01:11:09,540 --> 01:11:12,610
a blank stare,
like no feeling,
1565
01:11:12,716 --> 01:11:14,051
and I'm thinking to myself,
1566
01:11:14,588 --> 01:11:16,723
"He has no soul."
1567
01:11:17,730 --> 01:11:20,199
But he verified everything.
1568
01:11:21,541 --> 01:11:23,843
About 10:00 o'clock
in the morning,
1569
01:11:23,948 --> 01:11:25,750
the fire department
knocks on my door.
1570
01:11:25,853 --> 01:11:27,555
-[knocking on door]
-They come running into the house
1571
01:11:27,659 --> 01:11:29,695
saying that there's
a chemical leak going on.
1572
01:11:29,799 --> 01:11:31,000
Everyone gotta
get out of the house.
1573
01:11:31,102 --> 01:11:33,404
So my wife, they told her
to go get the baby,
1574
01:11:33,509 --> 01:11:35,511
"We'll go get your husband,"
1575
01:11:35,615 --> 01:11:38,418
So they came in the room
and told me to get dressed
1576
01:11:38,523 --> 01:11:40,058
because there's
a chemical leak going on.
1577
01:11:40,161 --> 01:11:42,330
So when I got to the door,
1578
01:11:42,434 --> 01:11:45,270
-it was the Police Department,
the news... -[sirens wailing]
1579
01:11:45,377 --> 01:11:46,478
Everybody was outside.
1580
01:11:47,883 --> 01:11:49,885
-And that's how
they locked me up. -[cell door banging]
1581
01:11:50,992 --> 01:11:55,497
[Billy] I was visited
by a federal prosecutor.
1582
01:11:55,606 --> 01:11:58,509
Mary Jo White says,
"Before you say anything,
1583
01:11:59,450 --> 01:12:00,618
you have no attorney here.
1584
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,423
Are you willing to speak?"
I said, "No."
1585
01:12:03,529 --> 01:12:05,631
She says,
"Well, don't say anything. Just listen."
1586
01:12:05,735 --> 01:12:08,137
She set a mini recorder
on the table,
1587
01:12:08,241 --> 01:12:10,677
and she started
putting in cassette tapes.
1588
01:12:10,782 --> 01:12:12,918
The first tape she put in
was Clarence Heatley,
1589
01:12:13,925 --> 01:12:15,960
and he started naming names.
1590
01:12:16,064 --> 01:12:17,866
[interviewer speaking]
1591
01:12:17,969 --> 01:12:19,404
[Billy] Yes, he did.
1592
01:12:19,507 --> 01:12:20,808
Preacher betrayed me.
1593
01:12:22,516 --> 01:12:25,819
He gave statements
on pretty much everybody in the crew,
1594
01:12:25,925 --> 01:12:28,094
and I heard the
cassette tapes, personally.
1595
01:12:29,904 --> 01:12:31,439
[Walsh] As he explained
each murder,
1596
01:12:31,542 --> 01:12:33,110
the thing that
I couldn't believe,
1597
01:12:33,213 --> 01:12:35,649
he tried to rationalize
everything to me.
1598
01:12:35,754 --> 01:12:38,557
He was talking about Malik.
He was trying to rationalize...
1599
01:12:38,662 --> 01:12:40,798
-[gunshot]
-...killing Malik.
1600
01:12:40,902 --> 01:12:42,336
He said, "Well, you know,
that boy got out of line."
1601
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,909
"Yeah, well,
he didn't get out of line.
1602
01:12:45,014 --> 01:12:47,049
He didn't do anything
outside of your orders."
1603
01:12:47,855 --> 01:12:49,323
And they cleaned it up
so nice,
1604
01:12:49,426 --> 01:12:52,162
but they never
washed down the walls,
1605
01:12:52,267 --> 01:12:53,902
and they made the mistake
1606
01:12:54,006 --> 01:12:55,241
of leaving that
skill saw blade...
1607
01:12:55,343 --> 01:12:57,212
-[electric saw whirring]
-...in the corner of the basement.
1608
01:12:57,316 --> 01:12:59,551
The FBI matched the blood
to Malik.
1609
01:13:00,725 --> 01:13:01,926
One of his reasons for talking
1610
01:13:02,028 --> 01:13:03,964
was, you know,
he was looking for a deal.
1611
01:13:05,171 --> 01:13:07,573
"Sammy the Bull" Gravano's
name, from La Cosa Nostra,
1612
01:13:07,678 --> 01:13:09,947
was brought up so many times
1613
01:13:10,051 --> 01:13:13,755
because he got to walk
on so many homicides.
1614
01:13:13,862 --> 01:13:16,498
So now you're sitting there
with a guy that you know is a killer,
1615
01:13:17,741 --> 01:13:20,110
and you convince them that,
if "Sammy the Bull" Gravano
1616
01:13:20,214 --> 01:13:22,550
can get away
with that many murders and be out,
1617
01:13:23,624 --> 01:13:24,592
what do you got?
1618
01:13:24,694 --> 01:13:27,030
And we were actually
successful [chuckles]
1619
01:13:27,134 --> 01:13:28,969
in using that name
several times
1620
01:13:29,073 --> 01:13:30,408
to actually let them
come forward
1621
01:13:30,510 --> 01:13:32,111
and tell us
which murders they did.
1622
01:13:33,586 --> 01:13:36,755
[Walsh] But as he freely
admitted murder 12,
1623
01:13:36,861 --> 01:13:40,899
US attorney said, "No,"
you know, "that's too much.
1624
01:13:41,007 --> 01:13:42,976
Now any kind of a deal
is off the table."
1625
01:13:44,450 --> 01:13:45,918
One of the most
chilling things to me
1626
01:13:46,021 --> 01:13:48,156
during the
entire investigation
1627
01:13:48,262 --> 01:13:51,064
was when he's talking
about the kid, Donnell Porter.
1628
01:13:51,169 --> 01:13:52,804
He looked me in the eye
and he says,
1629
01:13:52,907 --> 01:13:55,410
"You've gotta understand,
I couldn't let that kid live."
1630
01:13:57,888 --> 01:13:59,857
You know, they were
actually afraid
1631
01:13:59,961 --> 01:14:01,796
that some of the people
in the complex
1632
01:14:01,900 --> 01:14:04,069
would hear the kid screaming
in the basement,
1633
01:14:04,173 --> 01:14:05,875
so the autopsy revealed
that he was suffocated.
1634
01:14:08,084 --> 01:14:11,020
In some strange way,
1635
01:14:11,126 --> 01:14:13,362
I think he really wanted
to tell his story.
1636
01:14:14,369 --> 01:14:16,137
He was looking for
some sort of absolution.
1637
01:14:16,241 --> 01:14:18,243
Like, "I did
all these bad things,
1638
01:14:18,348 --> 01:14:22,652
but these are my reasons,
and please forgive me."
1639
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:26,197
He wanted to say,
"You did wrong and," you know, "God forgives you,"
1640
01:14:26,303 --> 01:14:30,073
or, you know,
"There was a reason for why you did what you did."
1641
01:14:30,181 --> 01:14:32,384
But it worked in our favor
1642
01:14:32,488 --> 01:14:35,758
'cause he's baring his soul,
telling us all the details.
1643
01:14:35,864 --> 01:14:38,800
As long as he was talking,
he kept, you know,
1644
01:14:38,906 --> 01:14:41,242
sinking himself
more and more and more.
1645
01:14:41,346 --> 01:14:43,615
So, by the time we finished
the interviews with him,
1646
01:14:44,388 --> 01:14:45,890
the case was iron clad.
1647
01:14:47,965 --> 01:14:49,300
This guy's a monster.
1648
01:14:59,766 --> 01:15:01,501
[siren wailing]
1649
01:15:05,816 --> 01:15:10,354
[Donnie]
Clarence "Preacher" Heatley confesses to 25 murders,
1650
01:15:10,463 --> 01:15:13,500
but the feds only have enough
corroborating evidence
1651
01:15:13,605 --> 01:15:15,607
to charge him with 13.
1652
01:15:15,711 --> 01:15:20,282
Investigators suspect
the crew carried out 75 more killings
1653
01:15:20,391 --> 01:15:23,694
during its bloody
13-year reign.
1654
01:15:23,801 --> 01:15:28,372
Preacher's confession
puts nearly every member of his crew in prison.
1655
01:15:32,927 --> 01:15:33,994
[Collins] When they
locked me up
1656
01:15:34,097 --> 01:15:36,400
they put me in
the same unit with Preacher.
1657
01:15:36,504 --> 01:15:39,140
Well, Preacher comes up to me
and I ask him, I was like, "What the hell is going on?"
1658
01:15:39,245 --> 01:15:41,881
He said, "Listen,
your part in this is minimal,
1659
01:15:42,689 --> 01:15:45,058
but I told them everything."
1660
01:15:45,162 --> 01:15:46,230
I said, "You did what?"
1661
01:15:48,906 --> 01:15:50,074
He said,
"I told them everything."
1662
01:15:50,176 --> 01:15:52,478
He said,
"Anything they didn't know, they know now."
1663
01:15:54,723 --> 01:15:58,326
And so I wound up
serving five years
1664
01:15:58,433 --> 01:16:00,502
for shooting Apple Porter.
1665
01:16:01,643 --> 01:16:03,444
[Billy] The last thing
I heard from Preacher
1666
01:16:03,548 --> 01:16:04,815
was a message he sent,
1667
01:16:04,919 --> 01:16:07,855
"Keep your mouth closed and
stand up while you inside."
1668
01:16:08,462 --> 01:16:10,298
[button clicks]
1669
01:16:10,401 --> 01:16:13,704
So I waited for five years
and eight months
1670
01:16:13,810 --> 01:16:16,446
before I pled guilty
to all four murders.
1671
01:16:18,257 --> 01:16:19,525
I took my deal.
1672
01:16:19,627 --> 01:16:20,695
Fifteen to life.
1673
01:16:22,368 --> 01:16:24,070
[interviewer speaking]
1674
01:16:25,912 --> 01:16:28,648
Believe me, I ask myself
that question all the time.
1675
01:16:29,255 --> 01:16:30,222
[gun cocking]
1676
01:16:30,324 --> 01:16:32,894
How did he get these people
to do this?
1677
01:16:32,999 --> 01:16:34,800
[gunshot]
1678
01:16:34,905 --> 01:16:37,607
The mind control that he had
over all these people
1679
01:16:37,712 --> 01:16:39,714
is something that we could
never really comprehend...
1680
01:16:39,818 --> 01:16:41,620
[child screaming]
1681
01:16:41,723 --> 01:16:43,792
...but to take somebody
from a broken home,
1682
01:16:43,897 --> 01:16:46,400
you show them some love,
some respect,
1683
01:16:46,504 --> 01:16:48,573
you show them some money,
some power,
1684
01:16:48,677 --> 01:16:50,145
that was the hook,
so to speak,
1685
01:16:50,248 --> 01:16:52,216
and then he brought 'em in.
1686
01:16:52,321 --> 01:16:54,957
[Maher] I sometimes
compare him to, like, Charles Manson,
1687
01:16:55,062 --> 01:16:58,498
who can actually get
a bunch of people to pull acts of violence for him.
1688
01:16:59,742 --> 01:17:02,812
He's very manipulative,
he's very charismatic,
1689
01:17:04,221 --> 01:17:05,756
but he's very dangerous.
1690
01:17:06,929 --> 01:17:08,497
[Early] Manson had a crew,
1691
01:17:08,601 --> 01:17:10,970
a group of followers,
1692
01:17:11,074 --> 01:17:14,478
they were obsessed with
the manner in which he spoke.
1693
01:17:14,585 --> 01:17:17,154
He had almost
a hypnotic effect.
1694
01:17:18,796 --> 01:17:19,930
So did the Preacher.
1695
01:17:21,938 --> 01:17:24,941
[Billy] It was like
we were all in a trance.
1696
01:17:29,126 --> 01:17:34,532
The life I lived with Preacher
was definitely cult-like.
1697
01:17:34,642 --> 01:17:36,477
He was the Black
Charles Manson.
1698
01:17:36,581 --> 01:17:37,582
That's who he was.
1699
01:17:39,222 --> 01:17:42,625
I've seen the nicest man
I've ever met,
1700
01:17:43,166 --> 01:17:45,135
and I've also seen
1701
01:17:45,239 --> 01:17:48,309
the scariest person
that you could imagine.
1702
01:17:49,651 --> 01:17:50,853
[thuds]
1703
01:17:54,532 --> 01:17:56,300
[Soffer]
Clarence "Preacher" Heatley pleaded guilty
1704
01:17:56,405 --> 01:18:00,409
to a slew of very complex
federal charges
1705
01:18:00,516 --> 01:18:03,285
that included 13 murders
in aid of racketeering,
1706
01:18:04,226 --> 01:18:06,262
along with other charges
connected to
1707
01:18:06,366 --> 01:18:09,035
his participation in a
continuing criminal enterprise
1708
01:18:09,140 --> 01:18:10,241
and the use of firearms,
1709
01:18:10,343 --> 01:18:12,746
along with other
racketeering acts,
1710
01:18:12,851 --> 01:18:15,587
and John Cuff pleaded guilty
to similar charges,
1711
01:18:17,297 --> 01:18:20,533
however, Preacher was never
found guilty or convicted
1712
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,309
of the murder
of Donnell Porter.
1713
01:18:24,518 --> 01:18:26,820
[Harlem Holiday] Nobody
got charged for Donnell.
1714
01:18:26,924 --> 01:18:29,093
Everybody took
plea deals, okay?
1715
01:18:29,198 --> 01:18:30,767
So there was no court trial.
1716
01:18:32,206 --> 01:18:34,375
[Soffer] I think
that's a great frustration for a lot of people
1717
01:18:38,056 --> 01:18:40,325
because that's really what got
a lot of people motivated
1718
01:18:40,429 --> 01:18:41,831
to work on the case.
1719
01:18:41,934 --> 01:18:44,236
It would have been nice
to see some resolution,
1720
01:18:44,341 --> 01:18:46,744
but not every case
can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
1721
01:18:46,848 --> 01:18:48,116
There's a very high standard.
1722
01:18:49,422 --> 01:18:52,625
Even if I know in my heart
that somebody did something,
1723
01:18:52,731 --> 01:18:55,301
you must corroborate
what people are telling you.
1724
01:18:56,844 --> 01:18:58,979
[Freeman Jr.] Once Heatley
got to sentencing,
1725
01:18:59,551 --> 01:19:01,019
he asked for leniency.
1726
01:19:01,122 --> 01:19:04,759
He felt like, since he didn't
physically commit the murders,
1727
01:19:04,867 --> 01:19:06,635
that he shouldn't take
the brunt of the weight.
1728
01:19:07,842 --> 01:19:11,112
[Donnie] Before sentencing,
Preacher reads a statement.
1729
01:19:12,522 --> 01:19:16,292
"It's with deep regret
and remorse that I am here today.
1730
01:19:16,399 --> 01:19:20,270
I have betrayed my family,
my neighbors and my community.
1731
01:19:20,378 --> 01:19:22,780
Though, for the life of me,
1732
01:19:22,885 --> 01:19:25,454
-I haven't killed anyone.
-[gun cocking]
1733
01:19:25,559 --> 01:19:28,228
I understand that,
if your hand touched the gun,
1734
01:19:28,334 --> 01:19:29,669
you gave the nod,
1735
01:19:29,771 --> 01:19:31,506
or if you just were there,
1736
01:19:31,610 --> 01:19:33,312
-then you gave
the devil his due. -[gun cocking]
1737
01:19:33,415 --> 01:19:34,482
[gunshot]
1738
01:19:35,721 --> 01:19:38,057
Whatever acts
I committed like a coward
1739
01:19:38,162 --> 01:19:42,433
won't stop me from taking
what I have coming to me like a man."
1740
01:19:42,541 --> 01:19:44,042
[prison bell ringing]
1741
01:19:44,145 --> 01:19:46,114
[bangs]
1742
01:19:48,358 --> 01:19:49,926
[Early] His letter
that he wrote to the judge
1743
01:19:50,029 --> 01:19:53,299
was just an extension
of the manipulation
1744
01:19:53,405 --> 01:19:55,474
to get what needs to be got
1745
01:19:57,116 --> 01:19:58,817
because, given what happened,
1746
01:19:58,921 --> 01:20:01,724
he should have been
put to death, but he wasn't.
1747
01:20:04,102 --> 01:20:06,505
[Soffer] If individuals
offer to plead guilty,
1748
01:20:06,610 --> 01:20:07,878
often, the federal government
1749
01:20:07,980 --> 01:20:10,950
will accept something
like life without parole.
1750
01:20:11,056 --> 01:20:14,025
It avoids
all of the uncertainty
1751
01:20:14,131 --> 01:20:16,400
and gets a sentence
that guarantees
1752
01:20:16,504 --> 01:20:18,773
that the defendants
never walk out of prison,
1753
01:20:19,714 --> 01:20:22,016
and that they'll die in jail.
1754
01:20:22,121 --> 01:20:25,658
So Preacher got life
in prison without parole,
1755
01:20:25,765 --> 01:20:29,268
and John Cuff also received
life in prison without parole.
1756
01:20:30,378 --> 01:20:32,246
[Maher] How many people
they killed, tortured...
1757
01:20:32,350 --> 01:20:33,551
[electric saw whirring]
1758
01:20:33,653 --> 01:20:35,555
...chopped up, extorted.
1759
01:20:36,729 --> 01:20:40,166
Just the sheer numbers
are amazing.
1760
01:20:40,273 --> 01:20:43,109
So if anybody
deserved to be killed,
1761
01:20:43,214 --> 01:20:44,349
Preacher deserved
to be killed.
1762
01:20:46,323 --> 01:20:48,826
[Walsh] One of the things that
bothers me about this case
1763
01:20:48,931 --> 01:20:52,601
is how his psychotic behavior
molded the lives
1764
01:20:52,709 --> 01:20:55,578
of these impressionable
young men from broken homes
1765
01:20:55,683 --> 01:20:56,984
that maybe,
if it wasn't for him,
1766
01:20:57,088 --> 01:20:59,190
they could have maybe made
something with their lives.
1767
01:21:01,233 --> 01:21:02,334
[Collins]
Preacher's a predator.
1768
01:21:03,673 --> 01:21:06,542
I'm pissed as hell.
You know what I'm saying?
1769
01:21:06,648 --> 01:21:09,485
'Cause they dragged me
into it. And I...
1770
01:21:09,590 --> 01:21:11,191
I lost part of my life.
1771
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,035
[Billy] I did a lot of evil
in my life.
1772
01:21:15,139 --> 01:21:16,373
I killed four people.
1773
01:21:16,476 --> 01:21:17,944
And everything I did,
1774
01:21:18,716 --> 01:21:20,084
I did out of love
for Preacher.
1775
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:23,227
[cassette player clicks]
1776
01:21:23,764 --> 01:21:24,865
[rock music playing]
1777
01:21:24,967 --> 01:21:26,269
[gunshot]
1778
01:21:27,542 --> 01:21:29,377
There's four Black men,
1779
01:21:31,319 --> 01:21:32,320
fathers,
1780
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,797
that never had a chance
to change, to grow
1781
01:21:38,807 --> 01:21:40,742
[tearfully] and it kills me.
1782
01:21:43,553 --> 01:21:46,323
[Holiday] Preacher probably
could have been anything he wanted to be
1783
01:21:46,429 --> 01:21:49,932
because he was able
to attract attention, attract people,
1784
01:21:50,038 --> 01:21:52,441
get people to bend at the will
1785
01:21:52,546 --> 01:21:54,381
-of the snap of a finger,
-[gun cocking]
1786
01:21:54,485 --> 01:21:55,686
[gunshot]
1787
01:21:57,661 --> 01:22:00,130
But Preacher's agenda
was violence.
1788
01:22:00,234 --> 01:22:03,871
Preacher's agenda
was to control Harlem.
1789
01:22:03,978 --> 01:22:07,715
Like, nothing
could go through Harlem without his okay.
1790
01:22:09,828 --> 01:22:12,565
When people ask me,
after 30 years of doing cases,
1791
01:22:12,671 --> 01:22:14,172
including prosecuting
terrorists,
1792
01:22:14,275 --> 01:22:16,611
"Who are the baddest guys
you've ever seen?"
1793
01:22:18,955 --> 01:22:21,457
the words
Clarence "Preacher" Heatley always come out of my mouth.
1794
01:22:24,103 --> 01:22:25,671
[Brennan] How do you
describe someone like that?
1795
01:22:25,774 --> 01:22:28,777
He's just pure evil.
1796
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,122
It's hard to say exactly
how many murders
1797
01:22:32,226 --> 01:22:34,762
Clarence Heatley
is responsible for,
1798
01:22:34,867 --> 01:22:37,436
fact and fiction
sometimes blur,
1799
01:22:37,541 --> 01:22:40,578
and his reputation
as an unpredictable killer
1800
01:22:40,684 --> 01:22:42,653
fueled the legend
of the Preacher,
1801
01:22:42,757 --> 01:22:46,127
turning him into an almost
supernatural force
1802
01:22:46,233 --> 01:22:48,235
who pretended to be
a man of God,
1803
01:22:48,339 --> 01:22:50,741
a best friend,
a surrogate father,
1804
01:22:51,247 --> 01:22:52,548
but in reality,
1805
01:22:52,651 --> 01:22:55,788
destroyed many families
and countless lives.
1806
01:22:56,529 --> 01:22:57,897
I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
1807
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,169
Thanks for watching.
Good night.
1808
01:23:00,219 --> 01:23:04,769
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