All language subtitles for Very Scary People s05e07 Times Square Killer 1.eng

[Eleanor] The first thought
of course is, the murderer.

He's back.

What's gonna
happen next?

I mean, a hundred things
go through your head.

He had to be stopped,
he had to be stopped.

He could get up, you know?

You don't know
what he's gonna do.

[theme music playing]

Welcome to Very Scary People.

I'm Donnie Wahlberg.

From the late
1960's until 1980,

a sadistic predator was
on the loose in New York and New Jersey.

By all appearances, he seemed
like an unassuming family man.

Just a regular guy.

But he was preying
on young women.

Abducting them then
torturing and killing them.

His victims were
suburban housewives, teenage girls and sex workers.

Some of his high profile
murders occurred around Manhattan's Times Square.

But as it turned out,
his hunting ground extended much further.

This is part one of
The Times Square Killer.

[suspenseful music playing]

[sirens wailing]

[Dr. Melinda]
Whether it were the girls and boys

coming from the Midwest,
the south, etcetera.

Times Square was
a destination

you could come drink,
you could be an adult, you could have fun.

[siren wailing]

[Dr. Melinda]
In the early 1970's,

Times Square
allowed for a lot

of people to engage
in street sex work

as well as to engage
in other kinds of hustles.

What is happening
in the 1970s is that

serial killers target
sex workers because

they are marginalized
and vulnerable.

They are a part
of what is called, "The missing missing."

In other words,
they're already missing

often from
their families

and therefore when
they go missing,

they are not reported.

[indistinct conversation]

[Steve] It was a busy
morning like any other in New York City.

Around 9:00 a.m.,
the fire department got a call

from the Travel
Inn Motor Hotel

on 42nd Street
in Times Square.

Employees had noticed
smoke pouring out

of room 417 out
into the corridor.

[news woman 1]
Firemen, went into a fourth floor motel room here

to find the source of smoke.

That source was
two fires, one on each bed.

[Steve] A fireman
thought he saw people lying on each bed.

They, uh, took
their bodies out

as best they could
with some help.

I was prepared
to take the... take them

and give them mouth
to mouth respiration,

uh, recovery and
discovered they were without heads.

At first, since
they were headless,

he thought they were
just mannequins.

Then he realized
that it was two naked young females.

Their corpses have
been set on fire.

[Larry] The, uh,
heads and the hands of both victims

had been cut off.

They were bleeding profusely.

[Rod] It was just
a really horrible scene.

[news woman 2]
This killer went to great lengths

to destroy the women's
identities.

[Louis] Arson is a method

of impairing
the investigation.

Set the room on fire.

Fire destroys
all the evidence.

[Larry]
On November 29th, 1979, a man identifying himself

as a Carl Wilson of Berlin,
New Jersey.

Checked in at
The Travel Inn

near Times Square,
was given a key to room 417.

At some point after
he checks into the hotel,

he reaches out to contact
a couple of sex workers.

He ended up bringing
two young women upstairs with him.

[Larry] In the early
morning hours,

smoke started coming
out of room 417.

When Mr. Wilson
leaves the, uh, the hotel,

he has a duffle bag.

And he wanders through
The Old Crossroad of the World,

the neon of, uh,
Times Square

at about 3:30
in the morning.

And he's stopped
by two police officers

who were concerned
for his safety

as he walked
through Times Square,

And he just explained
to the two cops that he was staying at a nearby hotel.

Everything was good, he was
getting something to eat

and he walked away.

If only police
had asked to see

what was inside
the duffle bag.

[news woman 3]
A lot of people figured a psycho was on the loose.

[Rod] They called him
The Times Square Killer.

[Brenna]
He likes Times Square,

where he could
wander around

in the middle of
the night and no one noticed.

He would just kind of
turned into an animal

when it was night time,

and he would start
hunting women.

It was chilling,
horrifying what he did to people.

[Steve] What nobody knew
at the time of the Travel Inn double murder

was that the killer
had been hunting women for more than a decade.

And he wasn't just
doing it in Manhattan,

he was operating
across the river in New Jersey.

[John] Bergen County,
it's the north eastern corner of New Jersey.

It exist right across
the George Washington Bridge from Manhattan.

It has a couple
of smaller cities

but is predominantly
suburban.

[John] Little Ferry,
New Jersey. Small, blue collar town.

Good people,
hard working people.

And obviously
what we know is,

it doesn't matter how
small the town is,

how quiet it is,
how bucolic.

It can always
be a location

where a homicide
could occur.

[Brenna]
Nancy Vogel was 29 years old.

Nancy was married, two kids

and she told her family
she was going out

to play bingo
in the local church.

She stopped at a discount
store called Valley Fair

and she purchased
some items.

When she didn't
return home at her usual time,

her husband
became concerned.

As the hours passed
it seemed more and more

out of character for
the young mother.

So, she went
missing, her husband,

-called the police.
-[siren wailing]

There was a search
rather widely publicized.

There were BOLOs as we call
them put out beyond lookout.

Neighborhoods
were canvassed, areas were searched.

After two or three days
the concern then changes to,

"Well, you know, maybe
she just didn't run away."

You rarely, rarely,
rarely ever see

a mother run away
from their children.

They don't.

[Steve] Three days after
Nancy Vogel disappeared

two catholic school girls
were looking out from a upstairs window

and they saw what
looked like a mannequin in a parked car.

They went out
to investigate and

they realized that
what they thought was a mannequin

was actually
the missing woman.

[Steve] Nancy Vogel's
killer didn't just stick to the suburbs of New Jersey.

[Larry] The killer was
in Manhattan.

He went into a bar
and ran into a woman there

She starts to feel dizzy
maybe as if something was slipped in her drink.

She passes out.

[Steve] Three days after
Nancy Vogel, a young mother disappeared,

two school girls
came across her body.

She was lying
in a parked car on the street.

Her body was
discovered in her own vehicle.

She was in the back
of the vehicle.

She was naked
and bound.

[John] She had been
sexually assaulted,

she had been beaten
predominantly on one side.

Nancy Vogel's cause
of death was strangulation

and also significant
blunt trauma.

[Luis] The primary way
serial sexual murderers kill is by strangulation.

The most efficient
way to kill somebody is with a gun

but they don't wanna
kill somebody efficiently with a gun.

They wanna control
their death and control their agony,

so that the victim
is aware of the power

and control and domination

that the offender
has over her.

This is arousing
to the serial sexual murderers.

[John]
Her clothes were perfectly folded underneath her.

Inside the trunk
of her car were shopping bags.

Those bags had
come from a popular store in the area.

[John] It was known
as the Valley Fair.

Big super market,
everybody in the area would shop there.

So that would
have indicated

that she had
done some shopping.

[John] Which then
immediately brought us to the point.

What happened
at Valley Fair?

Was there somebody
in the store?

Was there somebody
in the parking lot?

Was there somebody
that she met?

And I know law
enforcement worked very hard.

What happened at
the bingo hall? What happened at Valley Fair?

[Mike] Don't forget,
there was no cellphones.

There was no cameras.

Okay and, you know
cellphones and cameras

play a huge role
today in solving crimes

because wherever
you are, you're on camera, pretty much.

So, you know,
law enforcement now

has a lot of tools,

they have a lot
more technology

and crimes could
be solved in different ways than years ago.

[John]
So, it's a matter of just trying to canvas

who were the check out
people working that night.

Was there a security detail?

One of the leads,
uh, back then was that someone

allegedly saw her talking with
somebody that was a hippie.

He had long hair
and I believe he wore bell bottoms.

But back in 1967
there were a lot of hippies,

so that kind of a lead
wasn't really gonna help you too much.

There were other leads

and they were
all focused on

apparently people
seeing her speaking with others.

[Steve] But the fact
she was at the store,

might have been
friendly with people who were there,

uh, didn't raise
any red flags.

No one person
stood out suspicious.

But detectives did
notice something odd about the crime scene.

One of the things that
was gnawing at police

was that the vehicle
was locked

that Nancy Vogel's
body was found in

and that the keys
were missing.

Were nowhere to be
found inside

nor were they found outside
the vehicle.

So the killer took
the time to lock the vehicle.

[John]
Whoever committed this crime

took the car keys
most likely because

they didn't want
some random person opening up the car door.

And this took
the investigation in a direction

that the detectives
had never expected.

On the day
following the report of her being missing,

her brother showed up
at Little Ferry police

and said, "My sister
is missing

but I found her car keys."

And gave the police
the keys to her car.

[Steve]
This was shocking.

Investigators knew that
whoever killed Nancy Vogel

locked the car
and took her keys.

They knew that
the keys were missing

and when they saw that

here's her brother
with the car keys,

immediately that
makes him a suspect.

Police thought
how could he have his sister's keys

if he didn't have
something to do with the murder?

But there was nothing
else indicating that he was guilty.

[John]
So he was a suspect?

Nowhere near enough
to charge him

Now, some police officer
made a mistake back then

and shared that with

one or more
of the family members

which they should
not have done.

[Steve] Even though
her brother was cleared,

some of Nancy's relatives
were convinced he was guilty.

They wouldn't
find out the truth for more than 40 years.

[Steve] Nancy Vogel's
killer continued to work in the shadows.

He didn't just stick
to the suburbs of New Jersey.

[Larry] The killer
was in Manhattan

and he went into a bar
to have a drink and ran into a woman there.

A waitress,
named Karen Schlip.

She was leaving
to go meet with her boyfriend

and she was approached
by a... a stranger wearing

some sort of shaggy wig.

He asked if she
was a hooker.

Uh, she didn't really

notice that he looked
a little off,

you know and, uh...

She said she was
not a prostitute, they continued to talk

and he identified
himself as Joseph Schafer.

So after the two
are having a drink at the bar,

she starts to feel dizzy
maybe as if something was slipped in her drink.

She walks out
and starts to, uh, wobble back home.

At this point,
Mr. Schafer

as she knew him, asked
if she needed a ride.

She gets in the car
and she passes out.

When she wakes up,
they're on the New Jersey Turnpike

at which point, Schafer
as she knew him

shoved tuanols,
they're a barbiturate and used as a date rape drug

into her mouth and
she passed out again.

The next morning,
Karen woke up in a drainage ditch

up in Bergen County,
New Jersey.

She was revived
by a police officer who performed CPR on her.

When she finally stabilized,

police had a lot
of questions about exactly what had occurred.

She's taken to the hospital
and, uh, they're looking for a description

but she's not really
able to give them anything specific

it's just sort of a vague
description of this guy,

and it leaves police
with little to chase.

Police soon realize
the name Joseph Schafer was an alias.

[Mike] In the 70's
what was very

normal was hitchhiking.

A lot of these
young kids did it.

That was the fatal mistake
they made that day.

[Steve] He is known
as The Times Square Killer

but it really is a New Jersey
story because

he was raised here
and a lot of his victims were from here

Basically his comfort zone
was right in Bergen County.

In fact that's where
he lived this very

unassuming, suburban
home life.

[Larry] He's living
in Lodi, New Jersey

up in Bergen County
kind of a small,

I guess bedroom
community for lack of a better term.

He was a average guy
who had a family.

He had a wife and three
children, two boys and a girl.

Had a home, had a job.

And he was very
disarming to people

because he didn't
look abnormal

or disturbed or
deviant in any way.

It was his averageness,

his normalness that made
him particularly treacherous.

[Louis] Many serial sexual
murderers are married or in committed relationships

at the time they're going
out murdering people

and they'll interview

the wife and
the wife will say,

"I knew something was
a little odd about the person but I never ever thought

in a million years that
he was going around killing people."

[Steve] I don't even know
if it's cognitive dissonance or something like that,

I mean it's some
kind of remarkable compartmentalization

that it would take
to separate those two lives.

[Brenna]
Teenage, Mary Ann Pryor and Lorraine Kelly

were going to the Jersey
Shore and they wanted to get bathing suits.

[Rod] Neither of them
are old enough to have a motor vehicle licence.

[Brenna]
So they were hitchhiking to the Paramus mall.

[Rod]
That was a way of getting around.

These are kids and,
uh, they figured they can get away with it.

[Mike] Now, you gotta
remember in the 70's,

what was very normal
was hitchhiking.

I mean, you would
drive down the street

and everybody would
be hitchhiking.

It was absolutely dangerous

for anyone to hitchhike
because you didn't know who was picking you up.

But a lot of these
young kids did it,

and that was the fatal
mistake they made that day.

[Steve] When Mary Ann Pryor
missed her 10 p.m. curfew, her parents got worried.

They start calling her friends
and then they realize that

Lorraine has also
not come home.

So, now there's two
missing teenagers.

They call the North
Bergen County police

and they have
to wait 24 hours to file a police report.

At that point, Mary Ann
was actually still alive.

From what I know
about it, he could come to a hotel.

And he had forced them in
by saying, you know, that

go into the hotel room or else
I'm gonna hurt you.

He's menacing, he's an adult,
he's pretty strong

and basically forces himself
on them.

They were tied to beds
so they couldn't escape during the night.

And eventually, he drowned
them in the hotel bathtub.

[girl screaming]

This is really the
prototypical serial sexual murder.

The more
excruciating the pain,

the more suffering the
victim experiences,

the more arousing it is for
the offender.

Marry Ann's family was
listening to the radio when something shocking came on.

So they hear that they found
these two bodies.

There was a knock on the door

and it was the worst news
any family could get.

Your daughter is missing
with her friend and it's days on end.

And then you hear
on the radio that they found two bodies.

I mean, it is.
It is a scene from an awful movie.

Their bodies were discovered
in a construction site in Montvale.

They had both
been sexually assaulted.

They had both
been beaten badly.

They had to identify the girls
by jewelry that was found on their body.

The scene was a very difficult
one to process.

You're not coming up with
fingerprints.

Scene was not laned with blood
or other things that could somehow give you clues.

There's no evidence of
dragging.

You know, when you're
on a construction site, it's hard to tell.

The murder of these two
children disrupted the sense of security

the people felt in the
New Jersey suburbs.

When people in New Jersey
watched the news every night

and they hear murder after
murder occurring in Manhattan,

New Jersey seems pretty safe.

The last thing you expect to
see, you know,

cops finding bodies on your
doorstep.

Those two girls were my age,
were found not far from where I grew up in Bergen County.

And I actually remember when
the bodies were discovered.

The New York Daily Newsran
their pictures on the front page.

And I remember
that stuck with me.

And I remember seeing
both of their eyes and it made and impact on me.

The law enforcement had no
idea whether the killer had struck in this area before.

It's strange because
there's a lot of deaths in this area.

He's not really travelling
that far,

and there's all these
unsolved murders.

But no one, at least
at the time, seems to be putting them together.

It would be decades before
anyone realized

that the man who killed the
two teenagers was actually the Times Square Killer.

Welcome back to
Very Scary People.

The Times Square Killer
continues to claim the lives of innocent victims,

leaving a trail of horrific
crimes in his wake.

Meanwhile, police have no idea

there's a serial killer
crisscrossing the Hudson River,

slaughtering women in
Manhattan and suburban New Jersey.

And this man has no intention
of stopping.

He killed a 29 year old women

and he killed 13-year-olds.

It's just this weird
bottomless pit of horror.

He could be today
responsible for anywhere between 85 and 100

of these types of homicides.

In 2009 French documentary,
the killer seemed to take pride

in the way that he evaded
authorities.

[killer's voice]

Maryann Carr lived in
an apartment complex

in Little Ferry, New Jersey.

She had been divorced
and recently remarried.

She was an X-ray technician.

She was planning that day to
meet her mother-in-law and just never appeared.

So family members became
frantic, particularly because her husband was out of town.

They reached out
to the police.

And it appears that she was
abducted.

She was seen having
a confrontation with a man in the parking lot.

And then she was taken away
by the killer.

He dumped her body in the
parking lot, I believe, of the Quality Inn

between a van and a fence.

The hotel in suburban
Hasbrouck Heights, New Jersey

was considered a safe place
by the guests and by the workers.

[Eleanor]
The Quality Inn in Hasbrouck Heights, where I worked.

My father was
a maintenance man.

I was looking for a part time
job, 'cause now the kids were in school and all.

He used say, need help with
the Quality Inn.

I said, okay...

Doing what?

Cleaning rooms.
Oh, all right.

I could do that.
Clean my house, clean rooms.

My best friend worked there.

My sister-in-law worked there.

We were just a big family.

Some of our guests were
the Giants football players.

And they would watch cartoons
before they went to play their game.

I used to talk to them.

Wrestlers would stay there,

businessmen.

Now, the hotel
was thrown into disarray.

My father saw it.

And he was telling me,
"Elly, they found a body in the parking lot."

That was just... that's all we
knew about Maryann Carr.

When she was found dead,
Carr also had marks around her wrists and her ankles,

which indicated that she was
probably handcuffed at some point.

There was a ligature mark
around her neck

and traces of adhesive tape
around her mouth.

She had been bitten all over
the body, sexually abused.

We thought it was just some
nut, murderer, whatever dumped the body there.

We did not expect the person
to come back.

But as time went on,

authorities would realize
that the killer was a creature of habit.

And the Quality Inn at
Hasbrouck Heights was one of his favorite stops.

He keeps coming back to
the Quality Inn.

And used it not only for his
deeds of murder and mayhem,

but he also was dating a woman
and brought her there a couple of different times.

It is very, very typical for
any criminal

to operate where they feel
comfort and they feel comfortable by familiarity.

As detectives
retraced the killer's steps, they came up with a clue.

There was an eyewitness
who was driving past the apartment complex

where the abduction
took place,

who thought that he had
actually seen the victim's husband

in the rereview mirror.

Detectives questioned the
husband

to see if he was actually on
a business trip as he claimed.

But he was later able to
produce an alibi and clear himself of any

wrongdoing or involvement at
all in the case.

What detectives didn't realize
was that Maryann Carr

and another victim had lived
in the same place.

Like the Quality Inn,
this was another example of

the killer returning to places
that he was familiar with.

Two of his victims Nancy Vogel
and Maryann Carr

both lived in the same
apartment complex,

even though the murders
occurred 10 years apart.

They were sporadic events.

It wasn't like...

these things were happening
every week,

and they would say,
"Hey, this is the same guy."

Because you have couple of
years later a different detective.

Maybe some of these detectives
were transferred out.

Okay, so...

could somebody say, it is
similar to something we had a couple of years ago, yes.

But the technology wasn't in
place back then that it is now.

DNA would've made a difference
but obviously it wasn't there.

Many homicides are...
there's a family or familial connection.

Many of them are based up on
crimes of passion.

But the ones that where the
victims

don't have a connection
to the murderer,

those are the ones that are
difficult to really pinpoint.

It makes them also very
difficult to solve.

You have all these very tiny
police departments who may not be tying things together.

Law enforcement has always
been a tribal sort of thing.

And the communication isn't
always there.

In Bergen County, there are 73
independent and separate police departments,

69 municipals and at the time,
you had county police and sheriff's department.

So communicating between
independent departments was even more problematic.

Things back then were much
more manual, much more written.

They had detective bureaus
and they would have detective associations.

These detectives from multiple
towns would get together and share notes.

But that was about it.

It was hard.
It was hard, it was much more challenging.

There was no internet.
There was no way for the jurisdictions to communicate

and be like, maybe we've got
a serial killer here,

maybe this is one person
committing all these crimes.

The killer identifies
where he works and says he has a computer job

and his house in the suburbs.

He was revealing facts about
his life.

Doesn't make any difference
really what he tell them,

cause his plan is to kill
them.

In October 1978, as police
were trying to find out the identity of a man

who left a body outside a
New Jersey hotel,

the Times Square Killer was
back in Manhattan doing what he always did.

A sex worker named
Susan Geiger, who was working the streets

when a stranger who identified
himself as Jim approached and offered her $200 for a date.

She said she was booked up,
but gave him a phone number to contact her at.

This guy just seemed like
a nice person that needed company.

And they met in an Irish bar
in Manhattan

in the shadow of the
Queensborough Bridge.

Jim whipped out a big wad
of cash.

Claimed that he had won
the money gambling.

He then,

bizarrely,

identifies where he works
and says that he has a computer job

and his house in the suburbs.

All of which is true.

In fact, the killer had been
working in computer technology for more than a decade.

He was employed as a mainframe
computer operator at a major insurance company.

He was largely living
and doing his thing out in New Jersey.

Although, the whole time he
was employed, he was working in New York City.

And he began to get active
with prostitutes, sometimes two or three times a week.

He likes to get away with
things he's not supposed to of.

He would, apparently while he
was working at the insurance company, just leave,

go to sex clubs, do his thing
and then come back.

And despite being married,
he was also dating a nurse.

She was somebody that he met
when he was out carousing.

He met her at a bar.

And they had a fling.

He actually stayed with her
as a boyfriend-girlfriend for a period of time.

In the meantime,
he still got his hobby,

his extracurricular activity
while he's out, you know, murdering women.

For a guy to be in the
computer business in 1960s is an anomaly, right?

There weren't that many
computers.

He's on the cusp of the
cutting edge, you know, at that point.

And he's pretty bright,
and he knows it.

This is a guy who walked
around in a suit and tie,

business person with a family
and a home in a New Jersey suburb,

and came and went and nobody
suspected him.

But look at the monster that
he really was.

To this point, he had been
meticulous.

But now, as he is sitting in a
Manhattan bar with a sex worker named Susan Geiger,

he was giving away information
that could lead to his arrest.

It does seem strange
that he's revealing facts about his life.

He's trying to make the victim
feel comfortable, relax them.

He knows in his mind what
he's gonna do, but he doesn't want them to be frightened.

So he tells them about himself
and so on.

From his perspective,
it doesn't make any difference really what he tells them,

because his plan is to
kill them.

Susan and a customer were
talking in the bar,

that's when he began to put
his plan into action.

Susan gets up to go to
the bathroom,

he orders a round of
screwdrivers

hoping that the juice would
hide the taste of the pills he wanted to slip her.

It did, she passed out.

It doesn't surprise me that he
would drug sex workers.

It's interesting.

Some serial sexual murderers
avoid prostitutes, why?

Because prostitutes tend to be
street people, they're strong,

they can take care of
themselves.

And if you feel weak inside,
as so many of them do,

they don't wanna tussle
with a prostitute.

Because they may be
overpowered by the person.

So what did he do, he drugged
them. Got them drowsy and groggy.

So he can dominate them,
so he can control them.

As with other victims,
Susan Geiger was taken out of Manhattan

and brought to New Jersey.

She recalls being driven in a
dirty, green Thunderbird

and then waking up in
a hotel room.

She had been tortured and
left for dead.

But when the killer left,

she managed to call the police
and describe what happened to her.

In 2009 documentary, he
explained how excited he got

during these violent
encounters.

[killer's voice]

But at this point,
the authorities still did not see any pattern

among all the suspect's
crimes.

And at the insurance company
where he worked,

he behaved as if he didn't
have any care in the world.

He would disappear.

You know, he'd be gone for
hours at a time.

And his bosses didn't seem to
mind or do anything about it.

There again,
he's a pretty bright guy.

And when he did show up,
he was supposedly a good worker.

Even at the office, parts of
his real personality were coming through.

He always seem to have
a lot of money.

And it was never clear where
he got the money from.

But he bragged about being
a very successful gambler.

Some coworkers accused him
of stealing keys to their desks

and taking things that didn't
belong to him.

I don't whether he was
actually a loan shark,

but he was loaning money
to coworkers.

He was known to have
extra cash.

So he'd be somebody that
they would go to, you know, for this.

At his job, he was talking to
his friends

about prostitutes and women
and this sort of things.

It's a little bit off color.

Now, after his coworkers found
out what he did,

they now look back and see it
in much different way.

He loved the cat and mouse
game.

He said to his coworkers when
they discussed the murders,

he said, it could be you,
could be me, could be anybody.

In 1979, the vicious assaults
against women in New York and New Jersey

only seemed to be getting
worse.

His attacks appeared to ramp
up in terms of violence

and maybe leaving
little clues behind for investigators.

People lived in fear and the
Times Square Killer's exploits were splashed across the

front pages of the tabloids.

He loved the cat and mouse
game.

He definitely did.

In 2009, in the documentary,
he told journalist Nadia Fezzani

about his compulsion
to continue his spree.

[killer's voice]

[Nadia Fezzani]

[killer]

[news reporter] Around
2 o'clock this morning, this young woman

dressed in a beige skirt
and jacket

checked into a room on the
11th floor of the Seville Hotel on East 29th Street.

[man] He was with a sex worker
by the name of Jean Marie Reyner.

[news reporter] Shortly after
8 a.m., a hotel employee

discovered her room
filled with smoke.

She's found in the room
strangled. And now, unlike the previous case,

where he'd killed two women
in a hotel in the Times Square area,

her head and her hands
were intact.

Yet, the killer still
mutilated the body.

Before he departed the room,
he lit the mattress on fire.

In the 2009 documentary,

journalist Nadia Fezzani asked
the killer, why he decided to mutilate the body.

[killer] I mean,
she was already dead.

I mean, it wasn't something
that she was alive.

[killer continues speaking]

The killer said that he wanted
sensationalism and now he was getting it.

This was exactly the kind of
crime that the tabloids existed to cover.

Right near Wheelhouse,

he's in Times Square
all of a sudden.

You know, the bright lights of
Broadway or whatever.

There's more attention,
more media.

For a brief period, it seemed
like everyone in New York

was talking about the
Times Square Killer.

It's interesting that he said
to his coworkers,

when they discussed the Times
Square murders and so on,

it could be you, it could be
me, it could be anybody.

A housekeeper
walked into room 132.

She says, I hit something
under the bed and it was an arm.

Not just an arm,
it's a whole body.

He was above the law.

It was going to be his show.

He wanted to see what it
felt like to have someone under his control.

It comes down to him being
a control freak

and doing whatever he wants to
do and getting away with it.

And this car pulls up.
And this guy with this stupid, smirky smile.

I just got this weird danger
feeling.

Stranger danger.
And he kept looking at me.

It was horrifying, horrifying.

They're looking around
and they stumble upon a trophy room.

He's got a place where he's
keeping these little trinkets

to stimulate his fantasies in
the future.

One of the police came in the
side door with a shotgun

and they were aiming it
at this guy.

There's tons of unsolved
crimes in New Jersey and New York.

These are names that I will
never forget.

We're gonna be hearing about
victims of his for decades.

As the Times Square Killer
continued his deadly campaign,

detectives were wondering when
he would slip up.

And who exactly was this man?

What could possibly drive
someone to such a level of evil and depravity?

Sinister double life,

shocking confessions

and dark secrets revealed in
part two of

the Times Square Killer.

I'm Donny Wahlberg,
thanks for watching, good night.

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