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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,634 --> 00:00:10,734 [Carolyn] You haven't heard anything in a couple of weeks? 2 00:00:10,767 --> 00:00:13,797 You don't think that I should like, notify somebody or something? 3 00:00:13,834 --> 00:00:15,334 [Robinson] Why? 4 00:00:15,367 --> 00:00:17,627 [Carolyn] I worry. How would you feel if it was one of your daughters? 5 00:00:17,667 --> 00:00:19,727 [Robinson] Well, well my daughter's... 6 00:00:19,767 --> 00:00:22,397 you know I... [Robinson laughing] 7 00:00:22,433 --> 00:00:24,533 My daughter went and travelled through Europe for a whole summer 8 00:00:24,567 --> 00:00:26,467 and I didn't hear from her. All I got was postcards. 9 00:00:27,500 --> 00:00:28,730 Well... 10 00:00:28,767 --> 00:00:30,697 I know how young people are today. 11 00:00:30,734 --> 00:00:32,304 [opening theme music playing] 12 00:00:52,734 --> 00:00:54,474 Welcome to Very Scary People. 13 00:00:54,500 --> 00:00:56,070 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 14 00:00:56,100 --> 00:00:59,070 He called himself, "The Slave Master." 15 00:00:59,100 --> 00:01:04,030 A seemingly unassuming family man who had a secret obsession for rough sex 16 00:01:04,066 --> 00:01:07,096 including, bondage and sadomasochism. 17 00:01:07,133 --> 00:01:10,333 But there was an even darker side to John Robinson. 18 00:01:10,367 --> 00:01:14,127 At least six women who became involved with Robinson in some way, 19 00:01:14,166 --> 00:01:15,996 vanished without a trace. 20 00:01:16,033 --> 00:01:20,673 By the late '90s after years of trolling for prey through newspaper ads, 21 00:01:20,700 --> 00:01:23,300 Robinson discovered a new way to find victims. 22 00:01:23,734 --> 00:01:25,174 The internet. 23 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,900 This is part two of "The Slave Master". 24 00:01:38,867 --> 00:01:42,427 [John] In 1964, Robinson met his wife Nancy, 25 00:01:42,467 --> 00:01:44,997 and, they had four kids. 26 00:01:45,033 --> 00:01:49,933 [Douglass] Ironically, he had a reputation in the community of being the family man. 27 00:01:49,967 --> 00:01:52,827 [John] He appeared to be a caring loving father, 28 00:01:52,867 --> 00:01:55,327 he was involved in his kids activities, 29 00:01:55,367 --> 00:01:57,967 he was involved in his church. 30 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,970 Average dumpy looking guy. 31 00:02:00,066 --> 00:02:03,566 But, he's smart, smooth talker, very dangerous. 32 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,330 He would have many affairs with different women. 33 00:02:07,367 --> 00:02:14,927 An area of interest that he took on was the BDSM lifestyle. 34 00:02:14,967 --> 00:02:19,497 [Haymes] BDSM is bondage, discipline, and 35 00:02:19,533 --> 00:02:22,033 sadomasochistic sexual relations. 36 00:02:22,066 --> 00:02:25,226 [reporter] He went by the name Slave Master on the computer, 37 00:02:25,266 --> 00:02:28,066 soliciting sadomasochistic sex over the internet. 38 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,230 The first part of his career, he was, 39 00:02:34,266 --> 00:02:37,266 kind of the archetypal small time chiseler. 40 00:02:37,300 --> 00:02:39,400 [Glatt] He faked his credentials, 41 00:02:39,433 --> 00:02:41,733 got jobs he wasn't qualified for, 42 00:02:41,767 --> 00:02:45,767 and milked the companies for various amounts of money. 43 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,670 And more often than not, got away with it. 44 00:02:47,700 --> 00:02:52,770 But by the eighties, he was evolving into something else. 45 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,700 [reporter] John Edward Robinson Sr. apparently knew no bounds to his sadism. 46 00:02:56,734 --> 00:03:00,934 There were five women, one teenager and one baby missing. 47 00:03:00,967 --> 00:03:01,997 [Joyce] Paula Godfrey... 48 00:03:02,033 --> 00:03:03,273 [man 1] Lisa Stasi... 49 00:03:03,300 --> 00:03:05,070 [man 2] Baby Tiffany... 50 00:03:05,100 --> 00:03:06,200 [man 3] Catherine Clampitt... 51 00:03:06,233 --> 00:03:08,503 [man 4] A woman by the name of Beverly Bonner... 52 00:03:08,533 --> 00:03:10,173 [man 5] and Sheila and Debbie Faith. 53 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,330 [Joyce] Part of Robinson's MO was that he had 54 00:03:13,367 --> 00:03:19,727 women sign stationary that he could use later to send to their relatives. 55 00:03:19,767 --> 00:03:24,267 After about of decade of instances where women met 56 00:03:24,300 --> 00:03:27,770 John Robinson and then disappeared, it's still happening. 57 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,000 [Joyce] John Robinson was becoming emboldened 58 00:03:30,033 --> 00:03:34,033 by the fact that he was getting away with it, made him feel that he was... 59 00:03:34,934 --> 00:03:36,304 He was never gonna get caught. 60 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:47,070 In the fall of 1999, Robinson meets a young woman from Michigan, 61 00:03:47,100 --> 00:03:51,070 by the name of Suzette Trouten, who's 27 years old, 62 00:03:51,100 --> 00:03:54,300 Suzette lived in Michigan, with her mother Carol. 63 00:03:54,333 --> 00:03:58,673 And she's interested in the BDSM lifestyle, 64 00:03:58,700 --> 00:04:02,700 Robinson met Suzette through an online chatroom. 65 00:04:02,734 --> 00:04:05,174 He was looking for a submissive, 66 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,700 and Suzette was looking for a master. 67 00:04:08,734 --> 00:04:12,034 He enticed her to come to Kansas City. 68 00:04:12,066 --> 00:04:15,526 [Singular] He said I've got an old father, 69 00:04:15,567 --> 00:04:16,897 he's not in good health, 70 00:04:16,934 --> 00:04:21,504 I need you to come out here and nurse him and take care of him. 71 00:04:21,533 --> 00:04:26,833 She was supposed to be hired, at around $65,000 a year. 72 00:04:26,867 --> 00:04:29,167 He was going to pay her schooling, 73 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,530 he was going to put her up with a place to stay, 74 00:04:32,567 --> 00:04:36,367 and her only job was to take care of his aging father. 75 00:04:39,700 --> 00:04:42,800 So, she packs up her life, 76 00:04:42,834 --> 00:04:47,504 and her two little Pekingese dogs that she never went anywhere without, 77 00:04:47,533 --> 00:04:51,573 and moves to the Kansas City area to be with John Robinson. 78 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:56,000 She arrived on Valentine's Day, 2000. 79 00:04:56,033 --> 00:05:00,703 And was put up in the Guesthouse, in Lenexa, Kansas. 80 00:05:00,734 --> 00:05:05,034 For several weeks, he has sex with her a lot, does the whole BDSM thing. 81 00:05:05,066 --> 00:05:09,266 In at least one of the sessions that Robinson had with Suzette Trouten 82 00:05:09,300 --> 00:05:13,400 in the hotel room, he began filming and photographing. 83 00:05:13,433 --> 00:05:17,233 And on March first, she totally disappeared. 84 00:05:21,734 --> 00:05:27,434 Suzette was a young woman who had daily conversations with her mom. 85 00:05:27,467 --> 00:05:31,567 When her mom, didn't start hearing from Suzette, 86 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,700 she knew something was wrong. 87 00:05:33,734 --> 00:05:35,774 [Tony] Carolyn Trouten was very concerned, 88 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,230 and she reached out to the police here, 89 00:05:39,266 --> 00:05:41,466 in the city of Overland Park. 90 00:05:41,500 --> 00:05:45,100 Carolyn Trouten actually knew who John Robinson was, 91 00:05:45,133 --> 00:05:47,533 because Suzette had told her about him. 92 00:05:47,567 --> 00:05:50,127 The Overland Park Police Department had these old cases, 93 00:05:50,166 --> 00:05:53,596 the Godfrey case, the Stasi case. 94 00:05:53,634 --> 00:05:56,104 [Tony] Some of the old timers, I guess, recognized, 95 00:05:56,133 --> 00:05:58,203 "Hey, we've had missing person 96 00:05:58,233 --> 00:06:02,033 reports in the past involving this guy and now we have another one." 97 00:06:02,066 --> 00:06:06,526 There was this connection, that they began putting the pieces together, 98 00:06:06,567 --> 00:06:08,497 that this guy is a serial killer. 99 00:06:08,533 --> 00:06:11,803 I mean, there's no sequences, like that, that often so, 100 00:06:11,834 --> 00:06:16,274 literally within about 24 hours, we had a task force together, 101 00:06:16,300 --> 00:06:19,170 comprised of our office and several police departments, 102 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,030 that started working non-stop on that case. 103 00:06:24,133 --> 00:06:27,133 [Rick] We could not arrest him, we had no information 104 00:06:27,166 --> 00:06:30,866 no evidence of anything at that point. 105 00:06:30,900 --> 00:06:32,300 We don't have a case. 106 00:06:32,333 --> 00:06:35,173 They trail him around town, 107 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,870 they see what his routines are, they see what his activities are. 108 00:06:38,900 --> 00:06:44,100 We follow him, hoping he would lead us to some other evidence. 109 00:06:44,133 --> 00:06:46,133 [Douglass] To try to piece together 110 00:06:46,166 --> 00:06:49,496 exactly what happened in each and everyone of these events. 111 00:06:49,533 --> 00:06:51,433 What he did, how he did it, 112 00:06:51,467 --> 00:06:53,967 where kinds of things that would allow us to 113 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,800 put together a comprehensive picture of what took place. 114 00:06:59,367 --> 00:07:02,027 [Rick] John Robinson lived in a mobile home community, 115 00:07:02,066 --> 00:07:04,926 that is a very close knit community. 116 00:07:04,967 --> 00:07:09,997 The residences basically sits side by side, everybody knows everybody. 117 00:07:10,033 --> 00:07:14,173 We couldn't even drive through that complex without being suspicious. 118 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,700 So, we would sit outside the complex, 119 00:07:17,734 --> 00:07:21,074 and wait for John Robinson to leave. There was a 120 00:07:21,100 --> 00:07:23,830 kind of a hill south of the complex, 121 00:07:23,867 --> 00:07:27,027 and an officer would setup there on a lounge chair 122 00:07:27,066 --> 00:07:30,396 on some people's property, watching so that they can tell 123 00:07:30,433 --> 00:07:33,233 when John Robinson was leaving. 124 00:07:33,266 --> 00:07:37,026 The officer gets so familiar with the people that he actually mowed their 125 00:07:37,066 --> 00:07:39,066 backyard a couple of times, 126 00:07:39,100 --> 00:07:41,100 just so it didn't look so suspicious. 127 00:07:46,967 --> 00:07:50,867 [Joyce] The task force was doing as much as they could to survey, 128 00:07:50,900 --> 00:07:53,670 and build a case against Robinson. 129 00:07:53,700 --> 00:07:57,930 [Haymes] They would masquerade as trash men and pick up his trash. 130 00:07:57,967 --> 00:08:04,167 They would find messages and letters and things that had been shredded in his trash 131 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,430 and they painstakingly put all of those back together. 132 00:08:11,033 --> 00:08:15,103 [Paul] John Robinson was driving all over the metro area. 133 00:08:15,133 --> 00:08:18,933 He bought this property which was a sixteen and a half acre track, 134 00:08:19,500 --> 00:08:20,930 down in Linn county, 135 00:08:20,967 --> 00:08:24,967 which is a remote rural area about an hour of south of Kansas City. 136 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:30,500 It's a getaway, so to speak, and was supposedly gonna fix it up and, 137 00:08:30,533 --> 00:08:32,673 use it as a second home. 138 00:08:32,700 --> 00:08:36,630 [Singular] They would have them do surveillance atop telephone poles, 139 00:08:36,667 --> 00:08:39,067 you know, binoculars and they would watch him. 140 00:08:39,100 --> 00:08:43,070 They were pretty much leaving no stone unturned. 141 00:08:43,100 --> 00:08:44,930 [Joyce] They weren't ready to arrest him yet, 142 00:08:44,967 --> 00:08:46,897 they had to have an air tight case 143 00:08:46,934 --> 00:08:49,674 before they could arrest him. They knew he was slippery. 144 00:08:49,700 --> 00:08:53,500 [Paul] I think everybody was on the same page. It's one of those projects where 145 00:08:53,533 --> 00:08:57,673 every person involved knew how important it was and they knew, 146 00:08:57,700 --> 00:08:59,170 we're saving lives by 147 00:09:00,233 --> 00:09:01,373 getting this guy off of the streets. 148 00:09:03,367 --> 00:09:06,697 One of the challenges was, if he's killing, what's he done with their bodies? 149 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,600 [Glatt] One of the more interesting twists 150 00:09:23,634 --> 00:09:27,734 in Robinson's story, is lady called Barbara Sandre. 151 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,700 [Barbara] I met John Robinson in 1963 in Toronto. 152 00:09:34,734 --> 00:09:38,274 I was 15 and he was 19. 153 00:09:38,300 --> 00:09:42,700 He was slim, he had blonde hair, a nice looking guy. 154 00:09:42,734 --> 00:09:45,504 I think we liked each other. I think the feelings were mutual. 155 00:09:45,533 --> 00:09:49,333 We kept in touch on a regular basis. 156 00:09:49,367 --> 00:09:53,527 They stayed pen pals and occasionally, he would come and visit her. 157 00:09:53,567 --> 00:09:55,527 As far as I was concerned, he was nice. 158 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:03,170 They fell out of touch for many years and reconnected in 1993. 159 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,030 [Barbara] At that time I was running a translation company in England. 160 00:10:06,066 --> 00:10:08,966 [Joyce] John Robinson actually told Barbara Sandre 161 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,870 that he was not married and that he simply had four children from an... adoption. 162 00:10:13,900 --> 00:10:18,500 Apparently, his brother had died in car accident and they were the brother's kids. 163 00:10:18,533 --> 00:10:22,273 [Joyce] And this was not true, he was adept at lying to everyone, 164 00:10:22,300 --> 00:10:25,200 to his wife, to his victims, to everybody. 165 00:10:26,033 --> 00:10:28,333 He was a pathological liar. 166 00:10:28,367 --> 00:10:31,127 [Barbara] We kept in touch by telephone, 167 00:10:31,166 --> 00:10:33,496 and, we wrote each other every week. 168 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:49,100 She moved down to Kansas City in the late 1990's. 169 00:10:49,133 --> 00:10:53,173 The reason I went was because there was this unfinished thing. 170 00:10:55,734 --> 00:10:57,274 He said he worked for the government. 171 00:10:57,300 --> 00:10:58,800 He had a security job, 172 00:10:58,834 --> 00:11:02,504 and he said, that would be the reason why he was away all the time. 173 00:11:02,533 --> 00:11:04,203 So, because of his important position, 174 00:11:04,233 --> 00:11:06,333 I was supposed to keep a low profile. 175 00:11:06,367 --> 00:11:08,827 Initially, the apartment that I first rented, 176 00:11:08,867 --> 00:11:11,197 when I got there was an executive let, 177 00:11:11,233 --> 00:11:13,033 where you get everything. 178 00:11:13,066 --> 00:11:16,396 And then they had some duplexes that were considerably cheaper 179 00:11:16,433 --> 00:11:19,603 but you have to bring everything, and I mentioned it to him 180 00:11:19,634 --> 00:11:23,004 and he said, "That's not a problem, I have lots of furniture I can give you." 181 00:11:23,033 --> 00:11:24,933 And he arrived with everything I needed. 182 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,230 Furniture, bedding, pillows... 183 00:11:29,266 --> 00:11:30,326 [scoffs] 184 00:11:30,367 --> 00:11:33,267 Even a Crock-pot full of rotten food. 185 00:11:33,300 --> 00:11:35,400 A mattress in the bed did have a stain on it, 186 00:11:37,533 --> 00:11:42,233 but he said that was a result of a daughter's bad period. 187 00:11:42,266 --> 00:11:45,066 At the time, it wasn't something, were you would be thinking, 188 00:11:45,100 --> 00:11:46,700 I wonder if he killed somebody? 189 00:11:46,734 --> 00:11:49,304 You know, you were happy that you didn't have to go buy a bed. 190 00:11:50,967 --> 00:11:54,867 He brought me paintings and he said he had painted them and, 191 00:11:54,900 --> 00:11:56,700 they had his JR in every corner. 192 00:12:00,967 --> 00:12:05,327 He asked me for money on a few occasions and I gave him 193 00:12:05,367 --> 00:12:08,897 maybe $20,000 over a period of time. 194 00:12:08,934 --> 00:12:13,504 Because, that property in Linn county there, 195 00:12:13,533 --> 00:12:16,103 was just a field when he first bought it, 196 00:12:16,133 --> 00:12:18,633 and he said we were gonna live there one day. 197 00:12:20,967 --> 00:12:24,127 He didn't come as often as I maybe would have liked to have seen him. 198 00:12:24,166 --> 00:12:25,826 But we talked everyday. 199 00:12:25,867 --> 00:12:27,297 Sometimes more than once, 200 00:12:28,367 --> 00:12:30,127 if I was misbehaving. 201 00:12:30,166 --> 00:12:32,466 [producer speaking] 202 00:12:32,500 --> 00:12:35,430 Going out and not coming home till late or 203 00:12:35,467 --> 00:12:40,997 having somebody over, those were all no-no's as far as he was concerned. 204 00:12:41,033 --> 00:12:44,333 But there was no aspect of BDSM in our relationship. 205 00:12:44,367 --> 00:12:46,027 I would have run a mile. 206 00:12:47,266 --> 00:12:49,866 He never would have seen me again from that day forward. 207 00:12:57,700 --> 00:12:59,900 Nancy said, she was his wife 208 00:12:59,934 --> 00:13:05,804 and that, you know, I shouldn't believe everything that I was being told. 209 00:13:05,834 --> 00:13:09,034 That I was one of many women that he was running around with, 210 00:13:09,066 --> 00:13:11,826 or had run around with over the years. 211 00:13:11,867 --> 00:13:14,897 By this time, Nancy Robinson would be married to John Robinson, 212 00:13:14,934 --> 00:13:17,134 I think, almost 40 years. 213 00:13:17,166 --> 00:13:20,466 [Barbara] And I asked him, what's with this Nancy person? 214 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:26,470 And he said, "Oh, Nancy, Nancy is my, is the au pair that I hired to take care of the kids 215 00:13:26,500 --> 00:13:28,230 when they were little. 216 00:13:28,266 --> 00:13:31,366 And, she's been stalking me for years. 217 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,870 I thought it was a little bit strange, 218 00:13:34,900 --> 00:13:37,070 but I took it for face value. 219 00:13:37,100 --> 00:13:39,670 When he said something, you believed him. 220 00:13:39,700 --> 00:13:41,330 He wasn't a wishy-washy man, 221 00:13:41,367 --> 00:13:43,967 you know, there was no more discussion about it. 222 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,800 I don't think the gist of the letter from Nancy was for me to stop seeing him. 223 00:13:47,834 --> 00:13:52,574 But, she just wanted me to understand what kind of person he was. 224 00:13:54,734 --> 00:13:57,034 You didn't dare question him. 225 00:13:57,066 --> 00:14:00,826 Once on the phone he got quite mad at me and, 226 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,470 I remember saying to him, 227 00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:05,630 "Instead of us discussing this on the telephone 228 00:14:05,667 --> 00:14:08,997 why don't you come over here and let's talk about it face to face." 229 00:14:10,433 --> 00:14:12,473 And he said, "I'm too mad at you right now, 230 00:14:12,500 --> 00:14:14,900 if I came there my kids would have to visit me in jail." 231 00:14:34,066 --> 00:14:35,326 [telephone ringing] 232 00:14:44,533 --> 00:14:46,573 [Rick] When we took over the case, 233 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,170 one of our detectives flew up 234 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,570 to Michigan and talked to Suzette's mother, 235 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,870 and he set him up with a recording device for her telephone. 236 00:14:56,900 --> 00:15:00,370 [Singular] One ironclad rule for John Robinson was, 237 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,530 essentially to isolate, 238 00:15:02,567 --> 00:15:04,927 the women from their families. 239 00:15:04,967 --> 00:15:09,267 The fact that Suzette Trouten's mother and Suzette 240 00:15:09,300 --> 00:15:13,370 talked everyday was a key factor in this case. 241 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,070 [Singular] At some point, she gave her mother his number. 242 00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:23,370 They actually recorded a conversation on the phone, 243 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,270 between her and John Robinson. 244 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,270 He said, " Well, I don't know, she was here and she... 245 00:15:44,300 --> 00:15:49,500 met some guy and she left and... that's all I know about it." 246 00:16:16,166 --> 00:16:19,426 The guy is, quick on his feet, 247 00:16:19,467 --> 00:16:23,027 in regards to coming up with answers and lies. 248 00:16:23,066 --> 00:16:26,296 I couldn't figure out how he could keep all his lies straight. 249 00:16:26,333 --> 00:16:29,973 He had perfected this over, almost four decades. 250 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,230 He was very good at it, and that's what that phone call reveals. 251 00:16:45,166 --> 00:16:46,296 It was like he was, 252 00:16:47,634 --> 00:16:49,304 kind of toying with her. 253 00:16:49,333 --> 00:16:51,473 [Douglass] He tried to convince Carolyn that 254 00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:55,700 she had simply left on her own and not to worry she would be coming back. 255 00:16:55,734 --> 00:16:59,174 When all of us really thought that was not going to be the case. 256 00:17:23,734 --> 00:17:25,734 He could talk his way out of anything. 257 00:17:31,100 --> 00:17:35,400 In about, May he told me that he was thinking of retiring. 258 00:17:36,767 --> 00:17:40,027 And, maybe it was a good idea for us to go to Canada. 259 00:17:40,066 --> 00:17:42,196 His children are grown. 260 00:17:42,233 --> 00:17:47,573 [Barbara] And he encouraged me to go home and see if I could find a place. 261 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,100 The furniture was still sitting there, I left everything behind. 262 00:17:51,133 --> 00:17:53,733 [John] Some people felt that this was because 263 00:17:53,767 --> 00:17:56,327 Robinson thought maybe the police are getting close. 264 00:17:56,367 --> 00:17:58,027 I don't know if that's the case, 265 00:17:58,066 --> 00:18:02,496 I mean, Robinson told lot of women, he was going different places with them, 266 00:18:02,533 --> 00:18:03,673 and it never happened. 267 00:18:08,166 --> 00:18:14,066 From March of 2000, until June of 2000, we had, basically had 90 days 268 00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:17,230 of pretty furious investigation into him. 269 00:18:17,266 --> 00:18:22,666 The hardest decision for us, was when he would bring women into town. 270 00:18:22,700 --> 00:18:26,270 [Paul] There were a lot of women that he didn't kill, that he didn't kidnap. 271 00:18:26,300 --> 00:18:28,330 They just had him come in for sex. 272 00:18:28,367 --> 00:18:33,067 He's a big fan of using the various extended stay hotels. 273 00:18:33,100 --> 00:18:35,730 He would bring somebody out of town, put them up there for a week, 274 00:18:35,767 --> 00:18:40,967 he could see them everyday and they'd have sex, do their BDSM thing. 275 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,830 [Rick] Fortunately, we did have access to his phone. 276 00:18:43,867 --> 00:18:46,297 We did a court ordered wiretap. 277 00:18:46,333 --> 00:18:50,603 And from some of the conversations, we knew 278 00:18:50,634 --> 00:18:52,774 when these women were coming. 279 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,500 The task force would take the room next door. 280 00:18:56,166 --> 00:18:57,966 And they would listen in. 281 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,900 We had a lot of contingency plans for what to do if 282 00:19:02,934 --> 00:19:06,704 we thought if he was actually hurting somebody. 283 00:19:06,734 --> 00:19:10,034 The police were authorized to just break in and stop it. 284 00:19:10,066 --> 00:19:12,166 But with BDSM, 285 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,170 that's kind of a tall order because, 286 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,870 part of that's yelling and screaming, 287 00:19:15,900 --> 00:19:18,870 part of that's voluntary infliction of pain. 288 00:19:18,900 --> 00:19:21,700 We tried to really sensitive to that stuff in terms of 289 00:19:21,734 --> 00:19:26,034 not over react or screw up the investigation while still not letting anybody get hurt. 290 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,370 [Tony] One of the women that Robinson 291 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:38,630 was having a dalliance with during this investigation was a woman named Dicky Neufeld, 292 00:19:38,667 --> 00:19:41,327 who was into the BDSM lifestyle. 293 00:19:41,367 --> 00:19:46,467 She came down here, and Robinson put her up in a hotel room, 294 00:19:46,500 --> 00:19:48,730 where they had some sessions. 295 00:19:48,767 --> 00:19:51,027 The relationship went sour, 296 00:19:51,066 --> 00:19:58,396 and she had a collection of about $700 worth of what you would call sex toys, 297 00:19:58,433 --> 00:20:02,373 and he basically kept her property. 298 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,000 And she called the police and reported that, 299 00:20:06,033 --> 00:20:08,473 that, you know he had stolen from her. 300 00:20:08,500 --> 00:20:10,670 [Paul] She didn't know we were investigating. 301 00:20:10,700 --> 00:20:13,330 "I'm gonna report this guy, stole my sex toys." 302 00:20:13,367 --> 00:20:15,197 [John] This was really significant, 303 00:20:15,233 --> 00:20:19,903 because this gave us the first real problem or cause that we had 304 00:20:19,934 --> 00:20:22,574 to get a warrant to arrest Robinson for something. 305 00:20:23,367 --> 00:20:25,997 [Rick] We basically had run into a 306 00:20:26,033 --> 00:20:31,333 situation where we felt we had to move on John Robinson. 307 00:20:31,367 --> 00:20:37,327 We knew from phone records that Barbara Sandre was heading back to Canada, 308 00:20:37,367 --> 00:20:40,397 and that John Robinson was supposed to go with her, 309 00:20:40,433 --> 00:20:44,173 and the decision was made that we had to move in, 310 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,170 and stop this investigation before it got out of control. 311 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:54,200 [Joyce] This was a gamble for the prosecutor to arrest Robinson, because, 312 00:20:54,233 --> 00:20:59,133 at this point they only had Vickie Neufeld's missing sex toy charge, 313 00:20:59,166 --> 00:21:03,066 and another charge, but the DA acted on his instincts and he was right. 314 00:21:10,266 --> 00:21:12,896 [John] On, June second, 2000, 315 00:21:12,934 --> 00:21:17,604 we arrested Robinson at his trailer in Olathe. 316 00:21:17,634 --> 00:21:21,204 [Rick] But we originally wanted to go while Nancy was home 317 00:21:21,233 --> 00:21:23,803 and confront him in front of his wife, 318 00:21:23,834 --> 00:21:28,274 but we were late, I was there when they walked him out. 319 00:21:28,300 --> 00:21:32,030 And he said that, "You're making quite a production out of this." 320 00:21:32,066 --> 00:21:36,096 And had a smirk on his face, like, "You have nothing on me." 321 00:21:39,266 --> 00:21:44,226 The search of his home, turned up amazing evidence against him. 322 00:21:44,266 --> 00:21:46,766 He had paperwork on Stasi, 323 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,200 he had paperwork on Godfrey. 324 00:21:49,233 --> 00:21:51,473 We saw Clampitt's name in there. 325 00:21:51,500 --> 00:21:55,030 We didn't really go through 'em at the scene, 326 00:21:55,066 --> 00:22:00,296 but we knew we had a treasure trove of paper evidence on him from there. 327 00:22:01,567 --> 00:22:03,797 [Paul] One of the big things that was found 328 00:22:03,834 --> 00:22:07,004 during the execution of the search warrant at Robinson's house 329 00:22:07,033 --> 00:22:10,133 was a receipt from the Rodeway Inn, 330 00:22:10,166 --> 00:22:14,666 from back in 1985, when Lisa Stasi disappeared. 331 00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:19,300 Why he kept that, who knows. But that was big piece of evidence. 332 00:22:19,333 --> 00:22:24,473 We discovered that Robinson had two storage units, one was located in Olathe, Kansas, 333 00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:27,130 one was located in Raymore, Missouri. 334 00:22:27,166 --> 00:22:29,766 [Glatt] They searched his Kansas storage locker, 335 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,430 and they found some of his victims' birth certificates and driving licenses 336 00:22:34,467 --> 00:22:35,867 and personal papers. 337 00:22:49,233 --> 00:22:50,703 [reporter] This quiet pastor land, 338 00:22:50,734 --> 00:22:52,874 three miles north of La Cygne, Kansas, 339 00:22:52,900 --> 00:22:55,170 is now the focus of an investigation. 340 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,300 [John] I would say probably the first hour and a half in the search 341 00:22:59,333 --> 00:23:03,703 on the Linn county property turned out basically nothing. 342 00:23:03,734 --> 00:23:05,334 [Tony] It was very extensive, 343 00:23:05,367 --> 00:23:08,267 there was a pond on the property that they drained. 344 00:23:08,300 --> 00:23:10,500 We have a very large crime scene here, 345 00:23:10,533 --> 00:23:13,033 by means of 16 and half acres of ground. 346 00:23:15,867 --> 00:23:18,997 [Douglass] Suspecting there was the possibility of human remains, 347 00:23:19,033 --> 00:23:25,603 a cadaver dog was brought in to help search the area in a more non-intrusive way. 348 00:23:25,634 --> 00:23:29,304 The dogs hit on two barrels next to a storage shed. 349 00:23:30,934 --> 00:23:35,174 The barrels were right out in the open along with a bunch of other junk. 350 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:40,930 It was a 85 gallon barrel and I... I actually laid it down. 351 00:23:40,967 --> 00:23:43,827 And rolled it over some grass and stuff and 352 00:23:43,867 --> 00:23:47,697 when we lifted it back up, we saw a little red streak, 353 00:23:47,734 --> 00:23:50,704 of red liquid going down the side of the barrel. 354 00:23:50,734 --> 00:23:54,334 We took a wrench and undid the barrel, 355 00:23:54,367 --> 00:23:57,727 and lifted the lid, and that was our first body. 356 00:23:58,934 --> 00:24:01,634 [John] That first drum turned out to be Suzette Trouten. 357 00:24:04,967 --> 00:24:07,627 [Rick] Shortly, after that the second barrel was brought out, 358 00:24:07,667 --> 00:24:09,627 and that was victim number two. 359 00:24:11,533 --> 00:24:15,033 It was like, okay, how far is this gonna go? 360 00:24:30,734 --> 00:24:33,234 Welcome back to Very Scary People. 361 00:24:33,266 --> 00:24:36,396 While searching John Robinson's rural Kansas property, 362 00:24:36,433 --> 00:24:38,533 detectives found two barrels. 363 00:24:38,567 --> 00:24:42,927 The first contained the body of his former BDSM partner, Suzette Trouten. 364 00:24:43,700 --> 00:24:45,030 In the second barrel, 365 00:24:45,066 --> 00:24:48,026 a previously unknown female victim. 366 00:24:48,066 --> 00:24:51,866 As with everything in this case, when it started to unravel, 367 00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:53,370 the truth was hard to believe. 368 00:24:59,967 --> 00:25:03,497 When we opened the second barrel and found that there was a body in there, 369 00:25:03,533 --> 00:25:08,873 we saw that it was decomposed quite a bit, it had been there for quite some time. 370 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,730 [John] Those turned out to be the remains of Izabela Lewicka. 371 00:25:13,767 --> 00:25:19,327 She was not on anybody's radar at the time. 372 00:25:19,367 --> 00:25:24,997 She was a 19 year-old from Indiana, had actually been a student of Purdue University. 373 00:25:25,667 --> 00:25:28,467 An aspiring artist. 374 00:25:28,500 --> 00:25:34,000 [Rick] She had come to the Kansas City area after meeting Robinson online. 375 00:25:34,033 --> 00:25:38,673 He tells her that he will put her up there, he will take care of her. 376 00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:41,630 And, they will have a sexual relationship. 377 00:25:43,266 --> 00:25:45,366 [John] Robinson had a contract drawn up, 378 00:25:48,300 --> 00:25:51,470 and Lewicka signed the contract. 379 00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:55,730 She was a slave to Robinson, who was her master. 380 00:25:55,767 --> 00:26:00,327 She basically is owned body and soul by John Robinson. 381 00:26:00,367 --> 00:26:02,067 [Singular] He takes her around Kansas City, 382 00:26:02,100 --> 00:26:07,530 he introduces her as his daughter because she is quite a bit younger than she is. 383 00:26:07,567 --> 00:26:12,197 Robinson was with Izabela a while longer than he was with any of the other girls. 384 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,570 I found the marriage license application, 385 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,370 with her name on it. 386 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,800 And, obviously they didn't actually really get married. 387 00:26:19,834 --> 00:26:24,004 But, I think, he probably deceived her into thinking that they were. 388 00:26:24,033 --> 00:26:28,203 And she would introduce herself as being his wife. 389 00:26:28,233 --> 00:26:30,703 After being here in the Kansas City area for 390 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,600 way over a year, 391 00:26:33,934 --> 00:26:35,004 she disappeared. 392 00:26:36,934 --> 00:26:40,034 [telephone ringing] 393 00:26:40,066 --> 00:26:42,626 [Barbara] My mother said that there was call for me 394 00:26:42,667 --> 00:26:45,367 and he said he was from Lenexa Police Department, 395 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,130 and he said, "Do you know, John Robinson?" and I said, "Yes." 396 00:26:49,166 --> 00:26:51,196 He said, "Okay, 397 00:26:51,233 --> 00:26:56,733 we have reason to think that he's been involved in some illegal dealings." 398 00:26:56,767 --> 00:27:00,467 I went in my parents' bedroom and turned the TV on. 399 00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:04,130 A Kansas man, accused of luring women over the internet for sex, 400 00:27:04,166 --> 00:27:06,696 is the prime suspect in a series of brutal killings 401 00:27:06,734 --> 00:27:08,904 that may date back more than a decade. 402 00:27:08,934 --> 00:27:12,304 [Barbara] It was hard to believe that he would have done anything like that. 403 00:27:12,333 --> 00:27:18,303 I was never really suspicious. I guess I'm not a suspicious person. 404 00:27:18,333 --> 00:27:22,303 We called Barbara Sandre and asked her if we could search her apartment, 405 00:27:22,333 --> 00:27:25,933 where we knew that there was a lot of property there. 406 00:27:25,967 --> 00:27:32,067 And, she stated that John Robinson had given all that stuff to her. 407 00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:35,300 It appears that the furniture and possessions that I had at the house 408 00:27:36,433 --> 00:27:37,973 belonged to Izabela Lewicka. 409 00:27:39,433 --> 00:27:42,933 [Glatt] All the furniture had once belonged to Izabela, 410 00:27:42,967 --> 00:27:46,267 and he'd given to Barbara after he killed her. 411 00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:48,630 [Joyce] She was an artist. 412 00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:51,767 And so her paintings were decorating the walls 413 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,930 of Barbara Sandre, unbeknownst to Barbara Sandre. 414 00:27:55,967 --> 00:28:01,297 [John] John Robinson had written JR on 'em and passed them off as his artwork 415 00:28:01,333 --> 00:28:02,973 to impress Barbara Sandre. 416 00:28:07,734 --> 00:28:09,704 [Glatt] The police were wondering, 417 00:28:09,734 --> 00:28:13,604 how these letters from his victims have been sent from all over the world 418 00:28:13,634 --> 00:28:14,874 especially Europe. 419 00:28:15,967 --> 00:28:19,927 The police were able to figure out that 420 00:28:19,967 --> 00:28:25,597 John Robinson had enlisted Barbara Sandre, who lived in Europe at the time, 421 00:28:25,634 --> 00:28:30,374 to send letters and get post marks 422 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,900 for his daughter, who he said was collecting international post marks. 423 00:28:35,734 --> 00:28:39,474 He sent packets of letters to her 424 00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:42,970 and she mailed them from these foreign locations, 425 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,270 to the family of Beverly Bonner, 426 00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:47,830 to Sheila and Debbie Faith's relatives. 427 00:28:49,333 --> 00:28:50,573 They were closed envelopes. 428 00:28:51,634 --> 00:28:53,374 And I had to put the stamps on it. 429 00:28:54,367 --> 00:28:56,627 And they had no return address. 430 00:28:56,667 --> 00:28:58,527 I didn't think anything weird of it. 431 00:29:01,533 --> 00:29:02,433 Good afternoon everybody. 432 00:29:02,467 --> 00:29:03,367 My name is Chris Koster, 433 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,270 I'm the Cass county 434 00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:05,730 prosecuting attorney. 435 00:29:05,767 --> 00:29:09,227 On Monday morning. Raymore police and members of Johnson county, Kansas 436 00:29:09,266 --> 00:29:15,096 law enforcement agencies, entered a storage locker in Raymore, Missouri. 437 00:29:15,133 --> 00:29:20,573 [Rick] The final search warrant was for a storage facility in Missouri. 438 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,070 [Chris] The locker was associated with John Robinson aged 56. 439 00:29:25,266 --> 00:29:27,166 [Haymes] They didn't expect to find anything there, 440 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,930 other than, maybe background information. 441 00:29:30,967 --> 00:29:35,097 And, lo and behold they almost immediately discovered bodies. 442 00:29:38,934 --> 00:29:42,274 [Tony] They found three barrels, 443 00:29:42,300 --> 00:29:46,370 and in those three barrels, they found three other bodies, 444 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,070 which turned out to be 445 00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:52,100 Beverly Bonner, Sheila Faith and her daughter Debbie Faith. 446 00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:56,430 They were very far in the back, 447 00:29:56,467 --> 00:29:59,027 indicating, they'd been there a long time. 448 00:29:59,066 --> 00:30:02,066 He had kitty litter all along the floor 449 00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:05,370 to absorb any liquid which may have come out of them. 450 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,170 And they were each, individually wrapped. 451 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,400 We now realize, this guy is a serial killer. 452 00:30:32,033 --> 00:30:35,703 [Joyce] The coroners and the forensic experts believe that 453 00:30:35,734 --> 00:30:39,874 the cause of death for the five victims found in the barrels, 454 00:30:39,900 --> 00:30:42,800 was blunt forced trauma to the head. 455 00:30:42,834 --> 00:30:44,774 Although, they couldn't say absolutely, 456 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,830 it appeared that a hammer was used from 457 00:30:48,867 --> 00:30:52,927 the circular trauma that each suffered. 458 00:30:52,967 --> 00:30:57,527 [Joyce] They were never able to locate the murder weapon. 459 00:30:57,567 --> 00:30:59,327 [Tony] So nobody's ever gonna know. 460 00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:01,930 Except John Robinson. 461 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:10,670 [Haymes] Robinson as the killer, is a curious person to define. 462 00:31:10,700 --> 00:31:14,730 I think Robinson killed all these women for many reasons. 463 00:31:14,767 --> 00:31:16,327 They were all different. 464 00:31:16,367 --> 00:31:22,197 Because of his interest in BDSM, it's obvious that he likes to hurt people. 465 00:31:22,233 --> 00:31:25,873 [Haymes] He was collecting alimony from Beverly Bonner. 466 00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:28,830 [Rick] Izabela Lewicka, she had a checking account. 467 00:31:28,867 --> 00:31:33,197 After he killed her, he emptied the checking account. 468 00:31:33,233 --> 00:31:38,433 [Haymes] But somewhere along the line, I think his sexual perversion increased, 469 00:31:38,467 --> 00:31:45,367 and he realized while killing these women, that's the ultimate satisfaction. 470 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:50,230 I mean, what greater satisfaction to a sexually deviant person? 471 00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:00,670 [Tony] After Robinson's arrest, he was charged in Johnson's county, Kansas, 472 00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:05,330 with capital murder, which is punishable by death. 473 00:32:05,367 --> 00:32:13,167 We tried him for the murders of Lisa Stasi, Suzette Trouten and Izabela Lewicka. 474 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:18,830 [Debbie] In trial the prosecuting attorney talked a lot about his early life. 475 00:32:18,867 --> 00:32:21,827 The different business that he was involved in. 476 00:32:22,867 --> 00:32:26,597 And the other side of him. 477 00:32:26,634 --> 00:32:33,474 The prosecution presented a 39 minute video tape of the sexual encounter 478 00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:38,230 between John Robinson and Suzette Trouten in a hotel room. 479 00:32:38,266 --> 00:32:43,226 John Robinson was talking in a very cold, flat demeanor, 480 00:32:43,266 --> 00:32:47,496 issuing commands to his submissive Suzette. 481 00:32:47,533 --> 00:32:51,103 The prosecuting attorney thought it was very important 482 00:32:51,133 --> 00:32:58,103 that the jury see this video to understand the control that Robinson had over his victims. 483 00:33:00,433 --> 00:33:04,303 [Joyce] The sound of his voice on that tape, I'll never forget, 484 00:33:04,333 --> 00:33:08,003 because it was truly terrifying to hear him speak 485 00:33:08,033 --> 00:33:10,403 those commands to Suzette Trouten. 486 00:33:10,433 --> 00:33:13,673 To see this cheerful, 487 00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:18,200 nice gentleman, and realizing at the same time, 488 00:33:18,233 --> 00:33:22,203 his personality contains someone who beats women to death with a hammer. 489 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:28,500 Surprisingly, Robinson had taped all this over 490 00:33:28,533 --> 00:33:33,003 a Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory tape. 491 00:33:33,033 --> 00:33:36,803 So, nothing could've underscored more the double life 492 00:33:36,834 --> 00:33:38,904 of the doting father, 493 00:33:38,934 --> 00:33:41,574 and the sexual predator in that moment. 494 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,230 [Paul] He was found guilty, 495 00:33:47,934 --> 00:33:50,234 and he was sentenced to death. 496 00:33:51,333 --> 00:33:54,173 [Debbie] He was such a monster that 497 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,530 I didn't have a problem giving him the death penalty. 498 00:34:00,266 --> 00:34:02,626 [Haymes] It didn't bring back any of these women, 499 00:34:02,667 --> 00:34:06,227 and if anything, the death sentence adds 500 00:34:07,333 --> 00:34:09,903 more notoriety to the person. 501 00:34:11,300 --> 00:34:14,070 It adds more appeals, 502 00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:20,600 it has allowed John to relive the fantasies and the murders over and over again. 503 00:34:21,634 --> 00:34:24,034 It was time for these victims 504 00:34:24,066 --> 00:34:25,596 to get some peace. 505 00:34:25,634 --> 00:34:31,374 After the Kansas conviction, he was due to go on trial for the three murders, 506 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:36,100 in Missouri of Beverly Bonner, and Debbie and Sheila Faith. 507 00:34:36,133 --> 00:34:39,233 And ultimately they ended up working out a plea deal, 508 00:34:39,266 --> 00:34:44,396 where he plead guilty to the murders of the two women and the girl found in the barrels, 509 00:34:44,433 --> 00:34:47,633 as well as the victims from the 1980's. 510 00:34:49,066 --> 00:34:54,466 But, he never revealed what happened to them. 511 00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:57,230 I think that is one little 512 00:34:57,266 --> 00:35:01,666 kernel of control and power that he wasn't willing to give up. 513 00:35:05,033 --> 00:35:08,873 [Singular] There were three bodies of adults that are 514 00:35:08,900 --> 00:35:15,000 not accounted for, Paula Godfrey, Lisa Stasi and Catherine Clampitt. 515 00:35:15,033 --> 00:35:19,803 And the baby that, Lisa Stasi had, Tiffany. 516 00:35:19,834 --> 00:35:22,634 [reporter] Do you have any reason to believe the baby is alive? 517 00:35:24,166 --> 00:35:25,866 [man] We have no idea about that baby. 518 00:35:38,433 --> 00:35:41,803 [Singular] Two bodies were found on the Kansas side, 519 00:35:42,967 --> 00:35:47,227 and three bodies were found on the Missouri side. 520 00:35:47,266 --> 00:35:51,796 That leaves three bodies that are not accounted for. 521 00:35:51,834 --> 00:35:57,404 Paula Godfrey, Lisa Stasi and Catherine Clampitt. 522 00:35:57,433 --> 00:36:02,203 And the baby that Lisa Stasi had, Tiffany. 523 00:36:03,967 --> 00:36:07,527 Just when you think this case can't get any more... 524 00:36:07,567 --> 00:36:08,627 [exhales] 525 00:36:08,667 --> 00:36:09,527 ...weird. 526 00:36:11,066 --> 00:36:13,096 [Joyce] Police received a tip 527 00:36:13,133 --> 00:36:16,203 that Robinsons older brother, Don, 528 00:36:16,233 --> 00:36:19,833 had adopted a baby, about the same time 529 00:36:19,867 --> 00:36:23,067 that Lisa Stasi and her baby Tiffany had gone missing. 530 00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:27,470 [Haymes] In the fall of 1984, 531 00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:30,300 John's brother had told him 532 00:36:30,333 --> 00:36:33,603 that he was having trouble adopting. 533 00:36:33,634 --> 00:36:38,334 And I think, he told John how much money it costs 534 00:36:38,367 --> 00:36:41,367 to actually adopt the child. 535 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,830 And John thinking, "Well, that's a lot of money, that money can be mine." 536 00:36:46,567 --> 00:36:49,527 In January, he gets the baby, 537 00:36:50,300 --> 00:36:53,130 and contacts his brother and says, 538 00:36:53,166 --> 00:36:57,026 "You know, you've gotta travel here, because I've got a baby for you." 539 00:36:57,066 --> 00:37:02,766 He asked his older brother to pay him $5,500 for this baby, 540 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,430 and he presented what looked like legitimate adoption papers. 541 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,730 [Paul] Which was all dummied up by John Robinson, 542 00:37:10,767 --> 00:37:15,727 so we got thinking about that and, secured her birth records. 543 00:37:15,767 --> 00:37:18,567 Including the footprints that were taken at her birth. 544 00:37:19,967 --> 00:37:23,227 Ultimately, they ended up discovering that this 545 00:37:23,266 --> 00:37:26,426 girl who'd been raised by Robinson's brother 546 00:37:28,033 --> 00:37:28,933 was Tiffany. 547 00:37:30,300 --> 00:37:32,370 How much crazier can this thing be? 548 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,230 We found that there were some pictures, 549 00:37:36,266 --> 00:37:38,396 thy were Polaroids taken back 550 00:37:38,433 --> 00:37:44,373 when John Robinson actually had Tiffany on his lap with all the kids, 551 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,770 and Nancy surrounding him. 552 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,900 Just one, big happy family, with its little baby 553 00:37:49,934 --> 00:37:54,434 that was going to go and become his brother's child. 554 00:37:56,467 --> 00:37:59,667 They had no idea there was anything wrong. 555 00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:02,570 [Paul] John Robinson told everybody else that the mom 556 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,800 was destitute and had killed herself in a hotel room. 557 00:38:05,834 --> 00:38:08,474 The day that Lisa Stasi disappeared is the same day 558 00:38:08,500 --> 00:38:10,770 that baby was brought home to Robinson's house, 559 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,070 be turned over to John Robinson's brother. 560 00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:17,500 So, one would assume that she met her demise about that time. 561 00:38:18,967 --> 00:38:20,467 Perhaps that same day. 562 00:38:21,934 --> 00:38:26,274 [Singular] Tiffany went to Chicago, she would be renamed, Heather, 563 00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:30,270 and she would live her life with that family, uh, thereafter. 564 00:38:31,700 --> 00:38:35,900 She kept out of the public eye, till a few years ago. 565 00:38:35,934 --> 00:38:38,834 [Haymes] To think, he is willing to kill 566 00:38:38,867 --> 00:38:42,627 a mother to get a baby, is chilling. 567 00:38:42,667 --> 00:38:46,627 What could be more cold-blooded than that? 568 00:38:46,667 --> 00:38:50,827 I was stupefied that this actually happened. 569 00:38:50,867 --> 00:38:54,297 That he actually stole a baby and killed its mother, 570 00:38:54,333 --> 00:38:57,103 which he actually charged his brother for, 571 00:38:58,100 --> 00:38:59,330 that took the cake. 572 00:39:00,166 --> 00:39:01,826 [Kelly] We, as a family, 573 00:39:01,867 --> 00:39:05,297 have followed the events of last week in horror and dismay 574 00:39:05,333 --> 00:39:06,803 along with each of you. 575 00:39:06,834 --> 00:39:12,034 Nancy Robinson, and her four children made a joint family statement, 576 00:39:12,066 --> 00:39:15,466 denying any knowledge of what John Robinson had done. 577 00:39:15,500 --> 00:39:18,330 As each day has passed, these surreal events 578 00:39:18,367 --> 00:39:22,497 have built into a narrative, that is almost beyond comprehension. 579 00:39:22,533 --> 00:39:27,033 While we do not discount the information that has and continues to come to light, 580 00:39:27,066 --> 00:39:30,066 we do not know the person, whom we have read about and heard about on TV. 581 00:39:33,433 --> 00:39:36,773 [Paul] There is always a speculation about how much did the wife know. 582 00:39:38,767 --> 00:39:42,497 My guess is that this is one of those marriages where she knew about 583 00:39:42,533 --> 00:39:45,703 some of his prior criminal conduct relating to 584 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,030 scams and things like that. 585 00:39:49,066 --> 00:39:51,696 I don't think most people involved in this investigation, 586 00:39:51,734 --> 00:39:55,674 if anybody really thought that she knew about homicides. 587 00:39:55,700 --> 00:39:58,200 [Kelly] We have never seen any behavior that would have led us to believe that 588 00:39:58,233 --> 00:40:00,503 anything that we are now hearing could be possible. 589 00:40:01,367 --> 00:40:04,567 They were married for over 40 years. 590 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,130 And, uh, she only finally filed for divorce, 591 00:40:08,166 --> 00:40:11,166 like several years after all of this stuff broke. 592 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:16,470 His kids, loved him, even during the course of the investigation, 593 00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:20,000 had a difficult time believing that we had the right person. 594 00:40:20,033 --> 00:40:23,673 He still had this veneer of this family man. 595 00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:26,870 Even his own closest family members, 596 00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:29,930 they said they didn't know he was doing all of this. 597 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,670 [John] What kind of person is John Robinson? 598 00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:39,970 John Robinson, I mean, he's... he's evil. 599 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,070 This guy is just evil. 600 00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:47,330 He was a sadistic, and a sociopathic monster. 601 00:40:47,367 --> 00:40:50,467 He's a kind of person wouldn't think of thing about killing you. 602 00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:53,300 [Joyce] To kill people, kill disabled people, 603 00:40:53,333 --> 00:40:56,903 kill innocent women, kill vulnerable women, 604 00:40:56,934 --> 00:41:00,604 collect their disability, social security and alimony checks, 605 00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:03,530 how would you live with yourself? 606 00:41:03,567 --> 00:41:07,267 [Tony] As far as I know, he's never expressed any remorse. 607 00:41:07,300 --> 00:41:10,130 I think that just shows, what kind of person he is. 608 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,270 [John] I think one of the questions that many of us 609 00:41:14,300 --> 00:41:17,030 involved in this investigation have are, 610 00:41:17,066 --> 00:41:19,966 are there more victims out there that we don't know about? 611 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,570 [Glatt] There may be more storage barrels with bodies, 612 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,300 in other places, that have never been found, 613 00:41:26,333 --> 00:41:28,233 which is creepier than hell. 614 00:41:29,433 --> 00:41:30,403 [Robinson] I wouldn't worry. 615 00:41:31,133 --> 00:41:32,433 I'm sure they're fine. 616 00:41:35,467 --> 00:41:39,267 John Robinson is considered the internet's first serial killer. 617 00:41:39,300 --> 00:41:42,200 But, sadly of course he wasn't the last. 618 00:41:42,233 --> 00:41:45,573 The plea deal in Missouri gave Robinson life in prison. 619 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,200 And although he remains on death row in Kansas, 620 00:41:48,233 --> 00:41:50,633 his execution seems unlikely. 621 00:41:50,667 --> 00:41:54,567 It would mark the first one in state since 1965. 622 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,930 Either way, Robinson will die in prison. 623 00:41:57,967 --> 00:42:00,527 I'm Donnie Wahlberg, thanks for watching. 624 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:01,900 Good night. 625 00:42:01,950 --> 00:42:06,500 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 55104

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