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-[Robinson on phone] Hello?
-[Carolyn on phone] Who is this?
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[Robinson] This is John.
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[Carolyn] Well, son,
have you heard from Susie?
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[Robinson] Susie?
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Uh... Golly.
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No, not for...
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Well...
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I guess since
the first of the month.
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[Carolyn] I'm really getting
very nervous about this.
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I don't know if I should
maybe call the police or something.
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[Robinson] Why?
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Hon, she's a big girl.
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[theme music playing]
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Welcome to Very Scary People.
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I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
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When Paula Godfrey answered
a "Help Wanted" ad for a personal assistant,
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it seemed like
a great opportunity.
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Her job would include benefits
plus training and travel.
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It sounded too
good to be true.
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It was.
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Almost as soon
as Paula started,
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her family stopped
hearing from her.
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Turns out her new boss was
not who she thought he was.
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In reality, John Robinson
was a con man,
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with a penchant for rough sex
that included bondage, discipline and sadomasochism,
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or BDSM.
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This is part one
of the Slave Master.
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On January 9th, 1985,
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Lisa Stasi was staying
in a motel in Kansas City.
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Lisa was 19 at the time
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and had a daughter, Tiffany.
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Tiffany at the time was
under six months of age.
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That night, Lisa calls
her mother-in-law
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and is crying and very upset.
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And tells her mother-in-law,
"Why are you trying to take my baby away?"
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And the mother-in-law says,
"We're not trying to take the baby away."
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Lisa says, "They've
made me sign four blank sheets of paper."
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Her mother-in-law said,
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"By no means,
do not sign anything.
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No one's trying to take
your baby away from you."
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And she heard extreme fear
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in her
daughter-in-law's voice.
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And then Lisa says,
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"Here they come.
I've gotta go."
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And that was the last
anyone ever heard from Lisa.
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[Tony] John Robinson had a...
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I think a very unique
and interesting upbringing.
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Just seemed like
a average kid.
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[Singular] Robinson
was born in late 1943 in Cicero, Illinois.
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He grew up in a neighborhood
that was sort of renowned
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for criminal behavior
because Al Capone had, uh, an office there,
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and there was a famous
shoot-out in the neighborhood.
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It was part of the local
folklore really.
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So, Robinson would have
absorbed some of that
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and maybe he thought that
was something that might help you get ahead in life.
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He was the middle
child of five.
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[Singular] His father
worked as a machinist
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and was known as a drinker,
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sort of trudging off to work
and trudging back.
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His mother was known
as the disciplinarian in the family.
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According to Robinson,
she was quite cold,
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uh, especially when meting
out the discipline.
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[Joyce] John Robinson
attended the Quigley Preparatory school.
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He wanted to attend seminary
to become a priest early on.
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So, he was, in his youth,
quite a straight arrow.
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[Joyce] John Robinson
was in the Boy Scouts, became an Eagle Scout,
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and that group travelled
to London to perform in front of Queen Elizabeth and sing.
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And backstage,
he met Judy Garland
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who was also there
performing for the Queen.
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And he went up
to Judy Garland and said,
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"We Americans got
to stick together."
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At which point, she,
surprisingly, gave him a kiss on the cheek
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and said, "You're right."
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This was a very bold
move for a 13-year-old.
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[Glatt] And later,
the encounter was in theChicago Tribune.
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I think it just showed
that John Robinson
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was very personable
and a very likable kid.
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He really had a way
of relating to people and getting them to trust him.
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[Meier] Even in his
childhood though, people said that he was a...
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a little bit of a con man.
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That he manipulated people,
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that he did a lot of different
things to get what he wanted.
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[Douglass] I doubt
whether anyone would absolutely believe
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that, uh, another person
could turn out to be
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the kind of person that
John Robinson became.
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From the very beginning,
much of what he did was a scam.
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And that scam was at first
theft and forgeries,
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and later on it would
take a human toll.
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[Haymes] In 1961, Robinson got
a job as an X-ray technician.
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He created lot of diplomas
that said he was qualified.
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But as far as I know,
they're all bogus.
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Once he began working there,
it was noticed that he really didn't know what he was doing.
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[Meier] He had
none of the training or knowledge to do that.
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He started stealing
from his employer so the job didn't last very long.
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[Glatt] This was just
the first in a long line of future scams
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he would become
involved with where he faked his credentials,
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got jobs he
wasn't qualified for,
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and milked the companies
for various amounts of money.
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And more often than not,
got away with it.
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In the '60s, one
of Robinson's job was with Dr. Wallace Graham.
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[Singular] Who was
the personal physician to President Harry Truman.
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[Haymes] Dr. Graham hired
him as an office manager
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and very quickly money
started disappearing.
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And it turned out that
Robinson had embezzled
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a great deal of money
from him, almost putting him out of business.
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He embezzled at least
$30,000 from him.
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He ended up being convicted
for that embezzlement,
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and he was put on a probation.
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So, while he was already
building this pattern of criminal behavior,
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he hadn't served any time.
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[Joyce] The more he
got away with it,
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the more he learnt he
could get away with crimes.
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And he wouldn't stop.
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And he sort of now
evolved into creating these businesses of his own.
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They were all sort of fronts
for his criminal activities.
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[Joyce] In the late '70s,
Robinson started a company called Hydro-Gro,
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which was
a hydroponics company.
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Growing plants indoors
under artificial lights.
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He included a pamphlet
stating that he had a far-reaching imagination.
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In 1977, there was
a, uh, banquet to honor the "Man of the Year"
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in Kansas City.
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And it was covered
by the local media including
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our newspaper
The Kansas City Star.
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And the mayor proclaimed
Robinson as "Man of the Year."
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For his... philanthropic
efforts, I guess.
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As it turns out,
it was a fake.
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It was just some phony thing
that he concocted
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and bamboozled everybody,
including the media.
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[Singular] He had created
a plaque for himself.
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He had created
an event for himself.
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And when they
found out about it,
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everybody was
pretty mortified.
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He was kind of the archetypal
small-time chiseler.
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Most white-collar
criminals do not evolve into violent criminals.
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But his case is very
different from that.
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By the '80s, he was evolving
into something else.
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Up through 1984,
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Robinson was really
viewed as a con man.
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And con men don't
usually hurt anyone
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because they're smart
enough to know that if you actually hurt someone,
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the penalty is gonna
be enhanced.
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Which made it more
surprising when we found out
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that he was also
a serial killer.
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[Joyce] In the early '80s,
Robinson started yet another company
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called Equi-II
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which was
a consulting company.
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What he was
actually consulting, we don't really know.
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Equi-II was what
we would consider
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a... just a sham job.
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He just used it as
a front to meet women.
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[Joyce] It was at this time
that he hired a young woman by the name of Paula Godfrey
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to work as
a secretary for him.
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[Tony] Paula had just
graduated high school, honors student,
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she enjoyed figure skating.
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By all accounts a good kid.
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[Meier] Whether he hired her
to help in his business is really debatable.
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It never appears that she ever
really did any work for him.
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[Rick] They had a fabulous
package of benefits,
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financial and you were
gonna travel the world.
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And this looked like
the golden opportunity.
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The last we heard about Paula,
she called her grandmother
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and informed her that she
was going to San Antonio
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for business and she was
going to train down there.
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[Haymes] And late
in the summer of '84, Paula Godfrey went missing.
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[Singular] Her parents were
obviously concerned.
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They made a missing
persons report
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to the Overland Park
Police Department.
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But soon after,
the family receives a letter
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that is allegedly from Paula.
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And in the letter she says,
"Hey, I'm travelling, life is good.
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John Robinson's
a wonderful person.
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He's helped me
start a new life.
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And I'm fine.
I'm just happy as can be."
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This is to become a theme
that's repeated over and over.
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[Douglass] Based on the fact
that letters showed up
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indicating that she
was somewhere else,
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it became more of a person
who may have just left,
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which is not all
that uncommon.
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[Singular] The investigation
never really developed.
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[Paul] She's one
of several women that
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nobody really knows
what happened to 'em.
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And we'll probably
never really know
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what happened to 'em.
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Robinson was very adept
at manipulating people.
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[Barbara] He looked
like a family man.
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He dressed like the guy
next door that you see pushing the lawn mower.
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He didn't dress like
a guy that was out looking for girls.
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He didn't look scary,
like someone you had to be careful of.
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He did all these
monstrous things
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but he looks like, you know,
Joe Schmoe next door.
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[Meier] In 1964, Robinson
met his wife Nancy.
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And she became pregnant.
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They ended up getting married.
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They had four kids.
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[Tony] In the late '70s,
they moved to Olathe,
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which is, uh, a suburb
of Kansas City,
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probably, I don't know,
20-mile drive or so from downtown Kansas City.
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[Rick] It was a upper scale
suburban neighborhood.
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Ironically, he had
a reputation in the community
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of being somewhat
of a family man.
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[Meier] He appeared to be
a caring, loving father,
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he was involved in his
kids' activities,
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he was involved in his church.
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[Glatt] He took great pride
at Christmas as being the neighborhood Santa Claus.
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There are even pictures
of him online in the Santa Claus costume.
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And everybody thought he
was such a nice guy.
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[Singular] He did a lot
of things to make himself look respectable.
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But he didn't call that much
attention to himself.
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[Tony] I think part
of the reason why he got away with what he did for so long
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because he was able
to create this veneer of a normal person.
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[Haymes] And unfortunately
nothing could be further from the truth.
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[Paul] He was able
to compartmentalize
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that kind
of criminal activity,
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that kind of horror that he's
inflicting on so many people,
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at the end of the day, go home
and bounce a baby on his knee.
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[Haymes] One thing that came
up over and over again was John Robinson's contact
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with women other
than his wife.
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[Glatt] He gave the outward
appearance of being a devoted family man, a father,
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but he would have many
affairs with different women.
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[Haymes] There was
always a string of girlfriends on the side.
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Sexual activity was a major
part of Robinson's lifestyle.
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A area of interest
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that he took on was
the BDSM lifestyle.
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BDSM is bondage, discipline
and sadomasochism in consensual relations.
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Robinson referred
to himself as a Master.
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That's a person who has
dominance over women.
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[Paul] The Master is somebody
who is the domineering figure in the relationship that
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tells you what to do,
when to do it,
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what sexually to do,
all that kind of stuff.
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And he was able
to find women that were into that lifestyle.
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[Singular] There were
clubs in Kansas City where you could engage in
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those kinds of activities
if you wanted to.
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He was a man who was 5'9".
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He was pudgy.
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He was not a great
physical presence.
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But this notion of being
this ultramasculine, dominant male,
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you know, clearly appealed
to his psyche.
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He was drifting further
and further into not only
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small financial scams
and murder,
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but these adventures
into these darker realms of the sexual underground.
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During the day, he would
be out doing his thing, scam type things,
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BDSM activities,
hooking up with all these women.
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At night, he would go home,
usually about five o'clock,
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and be home the rest
of the evening.
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[Rick] We referred
to him as John Walton
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when he wasn't involved
with his other activities.
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He was always there
with Nancy at supper.
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[Singular] One
of the unusual aspects of it
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is that neither he nor
his wife, who knew about some of these affairs,
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seemed to have any
interest in getting divorced.
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Robinson sort of needed
that... that stability in this part of his life
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to be really aberrant
in another part of his life.
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[Paul] Sheila and Debbie Faith
were a mother and daughter that lived in Colorado.
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Sheila Faith was
a middle-aged woman.
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Her daughter, Debbie,
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was disabled
and wheelchair-bound.
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In 1994,
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Robinson meets Sheila.
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He tells her, you know,
great things about himself,
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and what a businessman he is.
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He portrayed himself pretty
much always the same way.
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The gentleman farmer,
he's wealthy, he owns a lot of businesses.
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He would often times
use the picture of him
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standing in that field
with his foot up on a stump,
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talking about all this
property he owned and how wealthy he was and...
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Just a super nice guy.
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[Tony] And Robinson offered
Sheila the chance to come
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to the Kansas City area and
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that he would take care
of her and her daughter.
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[Singular] What he was
extremely good at, of course,
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was finding
the vulnerabilities in people, zeroing in on them,
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exploiting them
and getting them
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to do what he wanted to do.
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[Rick] He would promise
everything and anything
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depending on what
the needs were of his victims.
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[Joyce] Sheila had told
her friends that she had met her dream man,
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that he was gonna take
them on an extended cruise.
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She was very excited
about going to Kansas City.
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[Tony] He actually drove all
night to Pueblo, Colorado and picked them up
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and brought them
back with him.
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[Rick] The only thing we know
about Sheila and Debbie Faith
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is they arrived
in Kansas City area
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and were never seen again.
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John Robinson dodged
some suspicion because
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Sheila and Debbie Faith
were never reported missing.
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[Paul] We always suspected
that was more than anything else a money scam for him.
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They received Social
Security disability benefits from the federal government.
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He continues to collect
their benefits for many years after that.
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[Joyce] He would
collect on their Social Security checks
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in the amount of $80,000.
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He almost had a constant
stream of incomes from people he'd scammed or killed.
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This guy would do
anything for a buck.
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And he doesn't care who
he hurts or what kind of position they are in in life.
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If it benefits him,
it's a good deal.
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[Haymes] I think
Robinson was able to get away with his crimes
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because he picked
victims that didn't have a lot going for them
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and would have less people
looking for them.
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He had a tendency to find
women at their lowest point.
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Every single one of them
had a marked vulnerability.
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And he knew it,
and he found it, and he seized upon it.
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They didn't all look the same,
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they weren't all
the same scam,
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but that was the one
thing he knew how to do.
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To find vulnerability
and exploit it.
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[Paul] Here comes
their knight in shining armor or so they think,
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he'll use them
for a while and then...
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kill 'em.
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Welcome back
to Very Scary People.
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John Robinson found some
victims by posting fake jobs.
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Others by luring them
with promises of love and financial support.
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In 1984, he set his sights
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on a new and especially
vulnerable group of potential victims.
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Young, unwed mothers.
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[Haymes] In December of 1984,
I was District Supervisor
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for the Missouri Board
of Probation and Parole...
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[phone ringing]
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[Haymes] ...and I got a call
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from an organization
known as Birthright.
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And, uh, Birthright
was a program
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that tried to help young girls
who were pregnant
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find a way to keep the baby.
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They told me that they had
been contacted by Robinson
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who wanted to know
if they had any young girls that needed help.
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He started an organization
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called Kansas City Outreach
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that supposedly was charity
to help young women, single mothers
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who needed a leg up
in the world.
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[Singular] John Robinson
and his scams would gravitate
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toward fields that
looked very benevolent.
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Other serial killers have done
these same kinds of things.
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Ted Bundy, for example, worked
in a suicide hotline.
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Dennis Rader,
the BTK serial killer,
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was a president of his church.
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[Rick] Robinson was going
to different hospitals
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and trying to get
them to sign on
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to this outreach program
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for unwed mothers
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that he would put
up in apartments and take care of.
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[Haymes] After receiving
the call, I began
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looking into his background.
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I was immediately convinced
that he was up to no good.
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One of my early thoughts
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when I learned that
he was seeking out young women with babies
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was that he potentially was
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going to sell the baby.
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And possibly use the mother
to sell into white slavery.
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I had contacted the FBI
to see if they were aware
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of any baby selling operations
in the Kansas City area,
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and they were not.
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[Singular] Stephen Haymes
is a very interesting
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and important part
of the story in many ways
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because he was the first
person in law enforcement
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that the red flags
sort of went out.
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Stephen Haymes
knew instinctively
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that something about
Robinson was wrong,
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something was dangerous.
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I'm still not
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thinking that... that
he's a murderer at that point,
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at least with his own hand.
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[Douglass] Lisa Stasi
was the next individual
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encountered by John Robinson.
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Lisa married a man
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and together, they had
a baby, Tiffany.
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The marriage was rocky,
did not work out.
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They separated
and, uh, her husband
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re-enlisted in the military
and... and left.
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She, uh, made contact
with a hospital,
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and when they learned
about the Kansas City Outreach Program,
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thought it was a perfect
program for Lisa.
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It seemed like a legitimate
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outreach organization.
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Lisa was promised
a job, education,
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and she thought
she would be providing
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a better life for her
and her young daughter.
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He put her up in a hotel
in Overland Park,
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told her that he was gonna
help her start a new life.
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[Joyce] On January 9, 1985,
Lisa went to visit
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her sister-in-law,
Kathy Klinginsmith.
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And it was a very, very
vicious snowstorm going on.
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[Meier] While she was there,
Robinson went back
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to the hotel, found out
that she was not there.
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[Haymes] And in the middle
of a horrible snowstorm,
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Robinson shows up
at the sister-in-law's home
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and is upset that Lisa
had left the motel.
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He demanded that
she and the baby, Tiffany,
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leave with him immediately.
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Kathy Klinginsmith would
later say in court
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that she saw pure evil
in his eyes that day.
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[Haymes] So he collects
Lisa and Tiffany
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leaving behind her car,
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baby food, diapers,
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and whisked them away.
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[phone ringing]
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[Glatt] A short time later,
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Lisa makes that call
to her mother-in-law
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about people wanting
to take her baby.
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[Haymes] That last
conversation, you know,
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"They've made me sign
four blank sheets of paper."
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[Meier] Lisa Stasi
was never seen again.
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[Haymes] After Lisa
goes missing,
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the mother-in-law
receives a letter.
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It's typed.
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Lisa's brother also
receives a similar letter,
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as does a shelter.
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There were three letters
that were sent
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and all three
were very generic.
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One of the letters
from Lisa said,
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"Thank you for all your help.
I do really appreciate it.
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I've decided
to leave Kansas City
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and try to make a new life
for myself and Tiffany.
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She deserves a real mother
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who works
and takes care of her."
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At the bottom, it was signed
Lisa Elledge Stasi.
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[Rick] Their family
really didn't buy into it
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because the letters
were so generic.
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It didn't sound like her
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and you don't sign
your official name
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including your middle name
to your family members.
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[Singular] The Overland Park
police department was contacted
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about her disappearance.
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But again, there wasn't
enough to really launch an investigation.
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[Douglass] At this point,
there was no sign of foul play.
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So like many cases
of a disappearing person
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with some reason
to believe that they simply left on their own,
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the case went no further.
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[Haymes] On January 10
of 1985,
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I decided I had enough
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information looking
into his background
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that I wanted
to confront him directly
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about what was going on.
At that point,
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I still don't know
about Lisa and Tiffany.
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Ironically, the letter
I sent on January 10
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is also the same day
that Lisa Stasi
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and baby Tiffany
were last seen.
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I've often wondered
if I would have
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made my direct contact
with him,
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you know,
a week or two earlier,
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maybe she wouldn't
have gone missing.
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I mean, those are
the sort of, uh, regrets that you always have.
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[Paul] There was a common
thread with all these women.
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The last time anybody
had seen 'em,
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they all become involved
with John Robinson.
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None of 'em ever been seen
again after that involvement.
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There was no activity,
no credit card activity,
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no phone activity, nothing
from any of these women.
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Most of the cases, as soon
as John Robinson was contacted,
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by either a family member
or the police,
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then what I would call
a cover-up started.
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[Paul] He had
a very similar pattern
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for most of his victims.
He would get these ladies
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convinced that he was getting
ready to take 'em on a trip.
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And he would say to them,
"You know, you're gonna be
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traveling all the time.
You're gonna wanna contact your relatives.
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So why don't you pre-write
some letters right now?
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And the ones that
you don't pre-write,
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would you sign your signature
to the bottom of these
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pages of stationery?"
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So he could mail 'em while
they're traveling the world.
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[Singular] It was a good way
of keeping families
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and law enforcement at bay.
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And he used it over and over
again in the future.
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[Paul] He was very adapt
at doing things
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to throw off an investigation.
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Steve Haymes
was feeling uneasy
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about Robinson
and these missing women.
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[Joyce] Stephen Haymes
sent a letter to Robinson
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saying he wanted to come in
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to his office
to meet with him.
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[Haymes] Robinson shows up
at my office on the 24th.
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Here's this, uh, rather
ordinary looking man.
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Very business man looking.
He's...
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not a dangerous looking
person at all.
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Not a dangerous acting person.
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00:30:34,655 --> 00:30:38,405
He's got a smile on his face
and you can tell
475
00:30:38,448 --> 00:30:43,238
he's... he's just trying
to lure you in to his con.
476
00:30:44,827 --> 00:30:47,137
Robinson wants to know
what's going on.
477
00:30:47,172 --> 00:30:51,452
I talk to him about
the birthright situation.
478
00:30:51,482 --> 00:30:54,722
They had been contacted
by Robinson.
479
00:30:54,758 --> 00:30:58,928
Wanted to know if they
had any young girls that needed help.
480
00:31:00,034 --> 00:31:02,524
And he says, "Oh, yeah,
that's... that's true.
481
00:31:02,551 --> 00:31:05,281
You know, we are
a group of businessmen.
482
00:31:05,310 --> 00:31:07,620
We just wanted to give
back to the community."
483
00:31:07,655 --> 00:31:09,995
I'm telling him
this doesn't make any sense.
484
00:31:10,034 --> 00:31:12,834
Are you incorporated?
You know, is it not for profit?
485
00:31:12,862 --> 00:31:14,862
"Well, no,
we haven't done that.
486
00:31:14,896 --> 00:31:17,336
I've got an attorney
that's working on that."
487
00:31:18,413 --> 00:31:20,453
One of the interesting
things about Robinson
488
00:31:20,482 --> 00:31:23,212
is, is that, you know,
he never admits defeat.
489
00:31:23,241 --> 00:31:25,691
You can never back him
into the corner,
490
00:31:25,724 --> 00:31:28,624
and he'll say, "Oh,
okay, you got me."
491
00:31:28,655 --> 00:31:31,855
[Paul] John Robinson
lied as a lifestyle.
492
00:31:31,896 --> 00:31:33,376
He was one of those people
who's just gonna tell you
493
00:31:33,413 --> 00:31:34,413
lies to tell you the truth.
494
00:31:34,448 --> 00:31:36,168
Even if it was easier
to tell you the truth.
495
00:31:36,896 --> 00:31:38,136
It's almost a pathological
496
00:31:38,172 --> 00:31:39,032
thing with him.
497
00:31:39,068 --> 00:31:40,338
[Haymes] When you confront him
498
00:31:40,379 --> 00:31:43,999
with the facts that...
that show that he's lying,
499
00:31:44,034 --> 00:31:46,554
he says, "Oh, well, you know,
that's just partially true."
500
00:31:46,586 --> 00:31:50,856
And then immediately
spins a new yarn about
501
00:31:50,896 --> 00:31:52,616
how, you know, "This is really
what happened,"
502
00:31:52,655 --> 00:31:54,545
which requires that
you go back
503
00:31:54,586 --> 00:31:56,206
and reinvestigate everything.
504
00:31:57,241 --> 00:31:59,931
So it was very frustrating.
505
00:31:59,965 --> 00:32:02,615
Nothing is easy
with John Robinson.
506
00:32:03,758 --> 00:32:05,928
[Meier] Haymes
was not comfortable
507
00:32:05,965 --> 00:32:08,895
with the answers that
Robinson was giving him.
508
00:32:08,931 --> 00:32:11,241
As such felt it was necessary
509
00:32:12,241 --> 00:32:14,211
I gotta do something
with this guy.
510
00:32:15,758 --> 00:32:17,548
After my first contact with...
511
00:32:17,586 --> 00:32:21,896
face-to-face with Robinson
in January of '85,
512
00:32:21,931 --> 00:32:25,451
I was involved almost daily
in investigating him.
513
00:32:26,551 --> 00:32:29,171
Haymes spent
the next six months
514
00:32:29,206 --> 00:32:32,926
looking into
Robinson's background.
515
00:32:32,965 --> 00:32:35,785
[Haymes] I contacted
the social workers
516
00:32:35,827 --> 00:32:39,787
at the hospital about
the Kansas City Outreach Program,
517
00:32:39,827 --> 00:32:43,717
and they told me that one girl
that had been referred to him,
518
00:32:43,758 --> 00:32:47,168
Lisa Stasi,
and her baby, Tiffany,
519
00:32:47,206 --> 00:32:49,856
had not been seen
for some time.
520
00:32:51,103 --> 00:32:55,283
I learned more and more
about his criminal activity
521
00:32:55,310 --> 00:32:58,210
and it's just
going on everywhere.
522
00:32:58,241 --> 00:33:02,591
Was certainly convinced
that he was up to no good.
523
00:33:02,620 --> 00:33:04,900
There's this obvious string
of... of young girls
524
00:33:04,931 --> 00:33:06,311
that have gone missing.
525
00:33:06,344 --> 00:33:09,284
But we still don't know
at that time
526
00:33:09,310 --> 00:33:10,520
what's happening to them,
527
00:33:10,551 --> 00:33:13,281
where they are, were they
killed by Robinson,
528
00:33:13,310 --> 00:33:17,100
were they sold
into white slavery?
529
00:33:17,137 --> 00:33:20,827
If they were killed, were they
killed by his own hand?
530
00:33:20,862 --> 00:33:25,622
There's more unanswered
questions at that point than there are answers.
531
00:33:26,862 --> 00:33:29,762
The next best thing was
to get him off the street.
532
00:33:29,793 --> 00:33:32,663
It's kind of the...
the Al Capone thing.
533
00:33:32,689 --> 00:33:34,789
If you can't get him
for what Capone did,
534
00:33:34,827 --> 00:33:36,967
you get him
for income tax evasion.
535
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,000
The goal was really
to get him off the streets
536
00:33:40,034 --> 00:33:41,694
for anything that we could.
537
00:33:42,655 --> 00:33:44,585
In Johnson County, Kansas,
538
00:33:46,034 --> 00:33:48,974
the police were investigating
Robinson for fraud.
539
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,410
He would be arrested for that,
540
00:33:51,448 --> 00:33:53,898
he would be sent
to trial for that,
541
00:33:53,931 --> 00:33:56,101
and he would be
convicted of fraud
542
00:33:56,517 --> 00:33:58,337
in 1987.
543
00:33:58,379 --> 00:34:01,239
And he would then serve
the next six years
544
00:34:01,275 --> 00:34:03,475
in prison in Kansas.
545
00:34:03,517 --> 00:34:07,587
I was relieved that
he couldn't victimize any other young women.
546
00:34:10,448 --> 00:34:12,718
[Meier] But before he went
to prison, he placed this ad
547
00:34:12,758 --> 00:34:15,208
in a newspaper
asking for help.
548
00:34:15,931 --> 00:34:16,971
And a young woman
by the name
549
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,550
of Catherine Clampitt
showed up.
550
00:34:21,758 --> 00:34:24,858
[Haymes] Catherine Clampitt
was a young, somewhat
551
00:34:25,517 --> 00:34:28,237
troubled young girl.
552
00:34:28,275 --> 00:34:30,585
Catherine's family
described her as being
553
00:34:30,620 --> 00:34:32,000
a very intelligent young lady.
554
00:34:32,034 --> 00:34:36,174
Had a bit of a wild side,
maybe adventurous side.
555
00:34:36,206 --> 00:34:39,926
Clampitt had a young child
that she left with her parents
556
00:34:39,965 --> 00:34:42,335
when she came up here
to the Kansas City area.
557
00:34:44,413 --> 00:34:47,343
[Tony] She answered a job
ad that he had put out
558
00:34:47,379 --> 00:34:49,859
saying looking for somebody
that was interested
559
00:34:49,896 --> 00:34:51,896
in a great job
560
00:34:51,931 --> 00:34:54,381
with travel, new wardrobe.
561
00:34:54,413 --> 00:34:57,243
The kind of thing that,
you know, any young person
562
00:34:57,275 --> 00:34:59,065
might look at and go,
"Wow, this sounds great."
563
00:35:00,931 --> 00:35:03,031
[Haymes] Robinson
convinced her that,
564
00:35:03,068 --> 00:35:06,138
you know, he really had
a... a good job for her.
565
00:35:07,586 --> 00:35:09,276
[Tony] After she
answered that ad,
566
00:35:10,275 --> 00:35:11,615
she was never seen again.
567
00:35:15,344 --> 00:35:18,384
[Rick] Letters started
showing up and they were hand-written
568
00:35:18,931 --> 00:35:20,451
by Catherine Clampitt.
569
00:35:21,931 --> 00:35:24,791
She enquired about her kid,
she had a kid.
570
00:35:24,827 --> 00:35:27,897
She would ask questions
in the letters,
571
00:35:27,931 --> 00:35:31,031
saying that she was traveling
but it was suspicious
572
00:35:32,827 --> 00:35:35,967
because those letters all came
from the Kansas City area.
573
00:35:37,137 --> 00:35:38,927
[Haymes] Even after
the Kansas conviction,
574
00:35:38,965 --> 00:35:41,305
you would think
that he would be
575
00:35:41,344 --> 00:35:43,794
at least trying to be
at his best behavior.
576
00:35:44,586 --> 00:35:45,446
But he's not.
577
00:35:57,931 --> 00:36:02,281
[Rick] I never met
anybody that didn't hate John Robinson.
578
00:36:02,310 --> 00:36:04,520
And I also
did not find anybody
579
00:36:04,551 --> 00:36:06,031
that he ever
told the truth to.
580
00:36:07,137 --> 00:36:10,207
I don't think you could
probably trust anything
581
00:36:10,241 --> 00:36:12,341
that came out of his mouth.
582
00:36:12,379 --> 00:36:15,449
[Tony] I've heard
that somebody is a silver tongued devil,
583
00:36:15,482 --> 00:36:18,282
which, in his case,
is pretty apt.
584
00:36:23,965 --> 00:36:28,615
In the late 1980s,
John Robinson is sentenced to prison.
585
00:36:28,655 --> 00:36:31,585
And at the prison, he meets
586
00:36:31,620 --> 00:36:34,030
a woman by the name
of Beverly Bonner
587
00:36:34,068 --> 00:36:37,408
who worked
in the prison library
588
00:36:37,448 --> 00:36:41,168
and was married
to the prison doctor.
589
00:36:41,206 --> 00:36:45,096
Robinson became very,
very friendly with her.
590
00:36:45,137 --> 00:36:48,447
In fact, he manipulated her
while he was in prison,
591
00:36:48,482 --> 00:36:51,102
and they soon started
an affair actually.
592
00:36:53,689 --> 00:36:56,339
[Joyce] In 1993, John Robinson
593
00:36:56,379 --> 00:36:58,689
was released from prison.
594
00:36:58,724 --> 00:37:02,524
[Tony] And Beverly decides
that she's going to leave her husband
595
00:37:02,551 --> 00:37:05,591
and run off with this guy.
596
00:37:06,034 --> 00:37:07,244
She got divorced,
597
00:37:07,275 --> 00:37:09,925
moved up here to be with him.
598
00:37:09,965 --> 00:37:13,515
[Rick] He made her
an officer in his business.
599
00:37:13,551 --> 00:37:16,761
He also opened a couple
credit cards under her name.
600
00:37:17,724 --> 00:37:20,484
And then,
she also disappeared.
601
00:37:25,206 --> 00:37:27,966
[Joyce] Her family
started receiving letters
602
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,620
saying, "Having
a great time in Europe."
603
00:37:30,655 --> 00:37:33,305
And they were postmarked
from France and Switzerland.
604
00:37:34,827 --> 00:37:39,277
No one ever questioned
that she wasn't in the Kansas City area.
605
00:37:39,310 --> 00:37:41,340
They just assumed
she was off traveling
606
00:37:41,379 --> 00:37:43,449
because of these
postmarked envelopes.
607
00:37:44,862 --> 00:37:46,832
In Beverly Bonner's case,
608
00:37:47,793 --> 00:37:49,003
her son died.
609
00:37:49,965 --> 00:37:54,275
And yet, she never
wrote a word about it.
610
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,450
[Paul] Bonner had
maintenance payments
611
00:37:59,482 --> 00:38:02,522
routinely coming to her from
her ex-husband, the doctor,
612
00:38:02,551 --> 00:38:04,691
as part
of the divorce package.
613
00:38:04,724 --> 00:38:07,624
[Meier] Robinson has those
sent to a post office box
614
00:38:07,655 --> 00:38:08,995
in Olathe, Kansas,
615
00:38:09,034 --> 00:38:12,004
where he then collects them
and cashes them.
616
00:38:13,344 --> 00:38:15,904
[Joyce] Robinson continued
to cash those checks
617
00:38:15,931 --> 00:38:17,901
for the next 18 months,
618
00:38:17,931 --> 00:38:21,661
which would have been
at least $18,000.
619
00:38:21,689 --> 00:38:24,689
He's always looking for a buck
no matter how he can get it.
620
00:38:26,586 --> 00:38:29,716
[Singular] It's interesting
that through his criminal career,
621
00:38:30,413 --> 00:38:32,383
money was a factor.
622
00:38:32,413 --> 00:38:34,343
If you think about
a lot of serial killers,
623
00:38:34,379 --> 00:38:38,929
you don't often have money
as a component of that.
624
00:38:38,965 --> 00:38:41,685
From the very beginning,
he was determined
625
00:38:41,724 --> 00:38:45,384
to take money from people
by illegal and illicit means.
626
00:38:49,172 --> 00:38:52,482
[Haymes] When Robinson
was released from prison,
627
00:38:52,517 --> 00:38:54,547
he lived in Missouri,
628
00:38:54,586 --> 00:38:56,516
just south of Kansas City
629
00:38:56,551 --> 00:39:00,551
in a trailer that his wife
had rented there.
630
00:39:01,793 --> 00:39:04,383
That was not within
the jurisdiction
631
00:39:04,413 --> 00:39:06,933
of my district office.
632
00:39:08,137 --> 00:39:12,967
But I held his file back
in my desk drawer.
633
00:39:14,344 --> 00:39:16,554
I would review
the file periodically.
634
00:39:16,586 --> 00:39:18,856
Was there anything
I missed? You know, what...
635
00:39:18,896 --> 00:39:20,406
What more could I do?
636
00:39:20,448 --> 00:39:22,548
What more could I investigate?
637
00:39:29,310 --> 00:39:31,620
[Douglass] In the '90s,
the Internet became
638
00:39:31,655 --> 00:39:35,305
an incredible part
of our everyday life.
639
00:39:35,344 --> 00:39:38,034
[Glatt] The irony was
that Robinson learned
640
00:39:38,068 --> 00:39:40,138
about the Internet
while he was in prison.
641
00:39:40,172 --> 00:39:41,792
He was very, very smart
642
00:39:41,827 --> 00:39:44,067
and he had
a very good head for it.
643
00:39:44,103 --> 00:39:48,073
He used to see Internet
to meet and attract women.
644
00:39:48,103 --> 00:39:49,623
[Glatt] For a long time,
he'd be involved
645
00:39:49,655 --> 00:39:52,475
in BDSM and sadomasochism,
646
00:39:52,517 --> 00:39:55,137
and he gravitated
towards those chat rooms.
647
00:39:56,344 --> 00:39:59,934
He actually referred
to himself as Slave Master.
648
00:39:59,965 --> 00:40:02,755
[Singular] He had
five computers set up
649
00:40:02,793 --> 00:40:05,863
and with some
or all of those computers,
650
00:40:05,896 --> 00:40:07,926
he was hunting
651
00:40:07,965 --> 00:40:11,585
for new women
to victimize in some way.
652
00:40:11,620 --> 00:40:15,240
This guy would connect
with women all over America.
653
00:40:15,275 --> 00:40:17,065
[Douglass] It is commonly
understood
654
00:40:17,103 --> 00:40:18,793
that he was
the first serial killer
655
00:40:18,827 --> 00:40:23,787
to use the Internet
as a stalking ground for finding victims.
656
00:40:23,827 --> 00:40:26,307
[Singular] Once he got
his hands on computers,
657
00:40:26,344 --> 00:40:28,834
the whole game changed
and expanded for Robinson.
658
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,930
And he would now use that
659
00:40:31,965 --> 00:40:34,135
in the evolution
of his criminal career.
660
00:40:39,620 --> 00:40:42,310
[Tony] After about
a decade of instances
661
00:40:42,344 --> 00:40:46,074
where women met John Robinson
and then disappeared,
662
00:40:46,103 --> 00:40:47,553
it's still happening.
663
00:40:47,586 --> 00:40:49,856
[Nancy] He told me that
he had a job with the state department
664
00:40:49,896 --> 00:40:51,966
and that would
also be the reason
665
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,450
why he was away all the time.
666
00:40:54,482 --> 00:40:59,102
[Joyce] Robinson met Suzette
through an online chat room.
667
00:40:59,137 --> 00:41:02,307
On March 1,
she totally disappeared.
668
00:41:02,344 --> 00:41:03,694
[woman on phone] I don't
know if I should
669
00:41:03,724 --> 00:41:05,664
maybe call the police
to jump in.
670
00:41:05,689 --> 00:41:06,719
[man on phone] Why?
671
00:41:08,068 --> 00:41:10,338
[Haymes] They began putting
the pieces together.
672
00:41:10,379 --> 00:41:12,279
This guy is a...
a serial killer.
673
00:41:13,310 --> 00:41:15,970
How much crazier
can this thing be?
674
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,620
[Rick] When we lifted it
back up, we saw
675
00:41:17,655 --> 00:41:19,335
a little red streak
676
00:41:19,379 --> 00:41:22,339
of red liquid going down
the side of the barrel.
677
00:41:23,655 --> 00:41:26,205
[Haymes] He is just
evil itself.
678
00:41:27,172 --> 00:41:29,552
I mean,
he's the definition of evil.
679
00:41:35,172 --> 00:41:38,002
John Robinson's fatherly
demeanor helped shroud
680
00:41:38,034 --> 00:41:40,624
the depraved sex life
he lived behind closed doors.
681
00:41:41,137 --> 00:41:42,207
He was cunning
682
00:41:42,241 --> 00:41:44,171
and managed to dodge
suspicion about
683
00:41:44,206 --> 00:41:46,206
the ever-growing list
of women in his life
684
00:41:46,241 --> 00:41:47,931
who were never seen again.
685
00:41:47,965 --> 00:41:50,275
That is until
one victim's disappearance
686
00:41:50,310 --> 00:41:52,450
set off alarm bells
with her family,
687
00:41:52,482 --> 00:41:54,862
and her mother
confronts Robinson
688
00:41:54,896 --> 00:41:57,546
in part two
of the Slave Master.
689
00:41:57,586 --> 00:42:00,476
I'm Donnie Wahlberg,
thanks for watching.
690
00:42:00,517 --> 00:42:01,407
Good night.
691
00:42:01,457 --> 00:42:06,007
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