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Welcome to "Very Scary People."
I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
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He was one of the most notorious
Mafia dons in American history.
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Born in the Bronx,
raised in Brooklyn,
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John Gotti clawed his way
to the top of the organization
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by any means necessary.
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Case in point ...
the 1985 murder of Mafia boss
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Paul Castellano
so that Gotti could take over
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the powerful Gambino
crime family.
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Law enforcement and even
other goodfellas
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considered Gotti dangerous
and unpredictable.
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And for many years,
he seemed unstoppable,
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until a secret FBI operation
finally ended Gotti's reign.
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This is part 2 of "John Gotti."
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Louis DiBono was an associate
of the crime family.
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Papa:
DiBono was in construction.
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Helped build
the World Trade Center.
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All of a sudden, he disappeared.
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Papa: He was missing
for a few days.
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Nobody could find him.
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Gabriel: We had actually gotten
informant information
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that indicated ... they said,
"Hey, Louie DiBono's dead.
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He was left
in a very public place.
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You should be able
to find the body."
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Papa: The irony
of Louis DiBono's death was,
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here he was in construction,
built the world trade center,
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and his body was found
in the parking lot
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of the World Trade Center.
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Gabriel: DiBono was laying dead
in his car
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for two days
in the parking lot.
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Somebody that thought
this guy was asleep
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knocked on the window
and realized he was dead.
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He'd been just sitting there
for two days.
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Nobody had noticed.
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Papa: Gotti used DiBono,
actually, as an example.
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He would teach lessons,
and if anybody was disloyal
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or anybody wasn't listening
to John Gotti,
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there were fatal
consequences.
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Gotti, at one point,
wanted to talk with him.
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DiBono wouldn't meet with him or
wouldn't answer his telephones.
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DiBono didn't want to do what
Gotti was telling him to do.
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And for that reason,
for not coming
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when Gotti wanted him to come,
Gotti decided that he had to go.
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DiBono was going to his car,
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and an assassination team
followed him,
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cased it out...
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shot him dead in the car,
and got out of there.
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Was John Gotti an evil
or vicious person?
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Absolutely, he was.
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Schumacher:
In 1985, John Gotti was a capo in the Gambino crime family.
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Capos, or captains,
are really like crew chiefs.
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They're responsible for either
different areas of geography
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or of different types of crimes
that they're focused on.
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And these capos have under
them soldiers and associates.
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The Gambino crime family
was the largest crime family
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in the greater New York area.
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They were extremely powerful
and were involved
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in just a vast array
of criminal enterprises,
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everything from bookmaking
and loan-sharking,
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up to their control of unions,
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involvement with
the construction industry.
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The Gambinos were one of the
five Mafia families in New York,
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and this was the structure
of organized crime.
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In 1985, Paul Castellano
was the boss
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of the Gambino crime family.
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Gotti didn't think
highly of him at all.
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He thought, frankly,
that Castellano
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should never have been put
in the position he was put in.
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Gotti decides
that Castellano has to go.
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DeStefano:
And that's what happened.
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He went after Castellano
and set up the infamous
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December 1985 assassination
of Castellano
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in front
of Sparks Steak House.
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Schumacher:
After Castellano's death,
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Gotti makes a bid
to become the boss,
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and he ultimately
does become the boss.
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Once John Gotti becomes the head
of the Gambino crime family,
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what emerges is
a very unprecedented
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and very public head
of a mob family.
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Elevation to stardom
in the Mafia
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was a sea change for John Gotti.
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Before he became boss,
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he was known as sort
of a casual dresser,
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often seen walking around
in jackets,
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one of which was
for the Oakland Raiders.
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And, suddenly, overnight,
his whole attire changed.
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He started wearing
hand-painted ties,
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believe it or not,
monogrammed socks.
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He would show up in these,
you know, $1,000 Armani suits.
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He would be dapper John.
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He got his hair done every day,
got a shave.
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He switched his whole lifestyle
from being a Queens hood
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to being this sort of
boss-of-bosses-type character.
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Morrill:
John Gotti was truly a wolf in sheep's clothing.
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The John Gotti that I knew
was a common criminal,
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and crime took no holiday
when it was in John's hands.
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Cardinale: His presence
was such that if he were annoyed
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or if he was mad,
you couldn't miss it.
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It would be like
a storm brewing.
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You could see it in his eyes.
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His eyes, in my view,
would literally change color
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and become really, really dark
when he was really infuriated.
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He was somebody who had
no issues at all
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about brow-beating people
within his organization.
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He sent out a warning
to the capos
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and everybody else
in the family
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that if they were picked up
on any kind of recording or bug,
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they would be met with death.
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Gabriel: These guys
are dangerous people.
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Killing is in their fabric.
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They're able to turn
on people on a dime.
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If they feel threatened in any
way, their reaction to it is,
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"That guy's got to go,"
period, and he goes.
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And it's your friend
who's doing it.
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So there's a different level
of ruthlessness behind that.
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And John Gotti was
the epitome of that.
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If you crossed John Gotti,
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you were probably going to be
dead within 24 hours.
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It was part of his whole
homicidal character.
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He didn't care what
the consequences were.
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There comes a time
when John Gotti allegedly
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has a dispute with
a refrigerator repairman
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named Romual Piecyk.
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Raab:
Gotti went to a bar in Queens,
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and he double-parked.
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And Gotti saw this guy honking,
whose car he had blocked,
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and he walked over and told him
to go [bleep] himself.
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And this repairman
talked back to him.
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So, in typical Gotti fashion,
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they started beating
up this guy.
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Cardinale:
Gotti was a street guy.
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He was not a kind of person
you'd want to get mad.
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Raab: They took his money
and then drove off.
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Gotti didn't expect any problem.
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Cardinale: The guy then goes
to the police,
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claims that he was attacked
for no reason,
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and John gets arrested.
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Gabriel: It's not until
a year or two later,
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that matter now comes to trial.
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Raab: And, suddenly,
Gotti, instead of being
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this almost nobody in Queens,
now is a big figure.
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He's the head
of the Gambino family.
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The refrigerator repairman,
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suddenly realizing who he got
into a scuffle with,
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got this case of amnesia.
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Papa: He realized
who he was dealing with
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and he didn't want to deal
with the consequences.
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He testified that he didn't know
who that man was.
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He didn't know
who John Gotti was.
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He didn't remember anything
that happened to him.
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And so that whole case
just went up in smoke.
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Raab: Of course, Gotti walked.
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To him, it was an example
of how invincible he was.
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Man: John Gotti was in Brooklyn
federal court on Monday.
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Gotti and six co-defendants
were charged under the Rico Act,
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which stands for racketeer
influenced corrupt organization.
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Gabriel: He's indicted
in the early '80s.
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It's street-level
criminal activity.
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It's a loan-sharking case.
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It's gambling.
It's some hijackings.
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It's been lingering for a while,
so in '86,
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when that case
finally comes to trial,
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this is a another shot
to take him off the street.
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Man: John Gotti had been free on
$1 million bail, pending trial.
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Officials say they confiscated
several cigars
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and locked Gotti up.
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The alleged godfather is a man
with considerable charisma.
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But prosecutors hope to put
that charisma behind bars
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for the next 40 years.
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The prosecutors were not
particularly experienced,
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but they were optimistic
that they could
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somehow pull this off.
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This case went on and on.
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It went on for months.
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We would ask him,
"How's it going in the trial?"
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And he would say,
"Oh, we're going to
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win this case no problem."
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Man: None of the people on trial
looked nervous,
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even though they could
have faced 40 years
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in prison if convicted.
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Ultimately, the jury in march of
1987, declared Gotti not guilty.
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Papa: He was acquitted
in that case, as well.
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Raab: The truth is,
it was a fixed trial.
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Gotti had no way of losing.
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DeStefano: His underlings
had learned about
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the identity of a juror
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and approached the juror
with an offer ...
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$60,000, give or take.
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And the juror was essentially
agreeing to hang the jury.
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Schumacher: In Gotti's world,
Sammy Gravano was his underboss.
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He was his right-hand man
on all the important endeavors.
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Sammy Gravano
was actually the guy
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that delivered the money
to pay this juror off.
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Gravano:
I worked out a deal with him for $60,000 to find him not guilty.
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DeStefano: It wasn't a case
of good defense
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in that case for Gotti.
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Simply a classic
corruption case.
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Announcer:
Welcome to "Larry King Live."
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Tonight, will they finally
get the godfather?
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King: Reputed to be the boss
of the nation's
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most powerful Mafia
crime family,
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Gotti is charged
with ordering the shooting
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of a union official.
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Feldman: During the late '80s,
John O'Connor
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was a union leader
in New York City.
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And he ended up having
a confrontation
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with the Gambino crime family.
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And in retribution, John Gotti
and the Gambino family allegedly
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went after John O'Connor.
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And O'Connor was shot
multiple times,
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although he did
survive the shooting.
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A lot of people who observed
the trial at the time
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thought the evidence
was pretty strong.
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There were tapes where he said,
"I'm going to bust them up.
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Man: But O'Connor, the man
with the white hair,
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was subpoenaed by Gotti
to testify for the defense.
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He dealt the government
a major blow.
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Raab: He testified, in effect,
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that he never heard
anything from John Gotti.
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He didn't know who shot him.
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Man: The Gotti case will go
to the jury early next week.
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If he is found not guilty,
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it would be the third time
in a row
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that the government would have
failed to convict Gotti,
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and that, said one
longtime courtroom observer,
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would make the government look
"pretty stupid."
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Man: We find him not guilty.
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He was acquitted in that case
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and he walked out
of there scot-free.
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What was unknown until later,
that this jury
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also might have been fixed.
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Gravano: He knew that,
at bare minimum,
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he had a hung jury.
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He wasn't going to get
found guilty.
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I got it.
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Woman: A shake and a kiss
from his lawyer, and with that,
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he was off and running,
Gotti looking more like Rocky,
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pumped up with the victory
of his latest legal bought.
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[People cheering]
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When he left the courthouse
that day,
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there were thousands
of people
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waiting outside,
cheering for him.
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Man: It was his third acquittal
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in three separate cases
since 1986.
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DeStefano: That gave him the
reputation as the Teflon Don,
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when no charges could stick,
it seemed.
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Man: Legal experts
say the bumbling of state
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and federal prosecutors
in the past four years
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has given Gotti
an aura of invincibility.
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Here, we have this guy that
just keeps thumbing his nose
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at law enforcement,
keeps winning
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these criminal cases
in the public's eye,
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and we got to find a way
to put him in jail.
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The feds were getting
pretty frustrated
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and really wanted
to take this guy down.
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Subsequent to that, the FBI
made Gotti a priority.
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Woman: The way things
have been going, though,
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no one's betting on
who gets the last laugh.
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??
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What did you think when you
would read your father's name
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and the word "gangster"?
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What did you feel, think?
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Well, it was never about that.
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It was always
about the exposure.
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It was always about dealing
with the publicity.
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It was overwhelming.
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It's something that you really
have to get used to,
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and I think you really
never fully do.
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Mob bosses normally
like to be as low-key
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as they possibly can be
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so as not to attract the
attention of law enforcement.
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Gotti was a different
kind of guy.
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He was not low-key.
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Schumacher: He was not afraid
of public attention.
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He was a little bit like
Al Capone
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in that he really reveled
in becoming a celebrity.
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And the New York tabloids
in particular just loved him.
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John took on this persona.
"I'm John Gotti, world.
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Come see me and know me."
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Raab: He decided
that he was so important
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that nobody could touch him.
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He commanded large
print headlines
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in all the local tabloids.
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He wanted the attention.
He loved the attention.
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How do you feel,
Mr. Gotti?
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Pretty good.
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A real collaborator
of John Gotti
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and his image was the media.
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Feldman:
John Gotti and the press had this interesting relationship,
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because both parties
benefited.
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John Gotti felt, I think,
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that the press coverage
enhanced his bona fides
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for the mob family
that he was in control off.
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The press, in turn,
knew he made good headlines,
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he made good footage
for the evening news.
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And Gotti was very good
at manipulating the press.
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He occasionally would flip cash
to homeless people
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who might have been
camped out in front
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of some of the courthouses.
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And, of course, he was savvy
enough to know that,
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what footage made
the news that night?
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It was John Gotti giving money
to the homeless.
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He's going to give you
some money.
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Here's some money.
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Man: The head
of the Gambino crime family,
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a real-life godfather.
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There's a two-edged sword
kind of here, though,
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because the press liked him,
didn't they?
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Wasn't John Gotti a figure
they liked to cover?
318
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Well, he was very likable,
just his personality.
319
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He responded to them, he talked
to them when he walked, right?
320
00:17:58,361 --> 00:18:02,761
Yeah. I think that without
having to respond, he responded.
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It was just that kind
of a seduction.
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The press romanticized him,
glorified him, glamorized him.
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Woman: Gotti oozes mobster
mystique from his silver hair
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to his supposedly
monogrammed socks.
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"Dressed to kill" is how
the tabloids describe him.
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He was a celebrity,
plain and simple.
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Raab: Gotti was not only popular
with the press in New York,
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he was popular
in his neighborhood.
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Woman:
Hundreds of people gathered for an all-day block party
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with free hot dogs
and hamburgers,
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all apparently courtesy
of the man
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they call the "Dapper Don,"
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reputed New York
crime boss John Gotti.
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John Gotti seemed to be
the Robin Hood
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in his neighborhood.
336
00:18:48,058 --> 00:18:51,058
He would have a fourth
of July party
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00:18:51,058 --> 00:18:54,758
and he would fund the party
and the fireworks.
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I know him as a lovely person
who always says hello.
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People really regarded him,
in a way, as a folk hero
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and as somebody who brought
joy to their neighborhood.
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They looked at him as a leader,
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as someone
who was protecting them.
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There's always been this aura
in this country with the Mafia.
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DeStefano:
It was part of the myth at that mafiosi or the Mafia
345
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was really
a benevolent association.
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What they didn't appreciate,
of course,
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is what that was hiding,
348
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and what was hiding was somebody
who was a ruthless killer.
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Schumacher: We know for sure
that John Gotti was involved,
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in one way or another,
with five murders,
351
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but being the boss
of the Gambino crime family
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and being a capo before that,
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it's almost certain
that the number is higher.
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There was never really
a lot of coverage
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about what a murderous
criminal he was.
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This is not some Robin Hood.
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This is a person
who is a plain hood.
358
00:20:02,955 --> 00:20:08,145
??
359
00:20:09,187 --> 00:20:14,647
??
360
00:20:14,753 --> 00:20:17,493
Welcome back to
"Very Scary People."
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In public, John Gotti was known
for his swagger, coiffed hair
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and brash personality.
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Many in his neighborhood
of Howard Beach
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considered him generous,
a modern-day Robin Hood.
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00:20:28,552 --> 00:20:31,192
But behind the scenes,
gangster Gotti was running
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00:20:31,253 --> 00:20:33,993
the violent Gambino
crime family.
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Time and time again, he proved
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00:20:35,953 --> 00:20:38,293
he would let no one
stand in his way.
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00:20:38,353 --> 00:20:41,753
??
370
00:20:41,852 --> 00:20:44,492
DeStefano: Gotti was a guy
who wanted to be a gangster,
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and in his mind,
to be a gangster,
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you had to be tough.
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You had to want to kill.
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00:20:48,751 --> 00:20:52,651
The Robert DiBernardo case
was key in point.
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00:20:52,751 --> 00:20:55,881
DiBernardo was a very well-known
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and respected member
of the Gambino family.
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00:20:58,851 --> 00:21:02,481
Papa: DiBernardo was sort
of an independent operator
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00:21:02,584 --> 00:21:07,254
but made a lot of money
in the porn business.
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00:21:07,351 --> 00:21:11,381
Gabriel: Word gets sent to John
that Robert DiBernardo
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was talking behind John's back,
he's being disloyal.
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00:21:16,351 --> 00:21:19,351
So John says, "Alright,
if that's true, kill him.
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00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:20,480
He's got to go."
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00:21:20,583 --> 00:21:23,753
John is that quick
to turn on him.
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00:21:23,850 --> 00:21:26,050
DeStefano: Gravano said he tried
to talk him out of it.
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00:21:26,050 --> 00:21:27,880
"That's no real reason
to kill him.
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00:21:27,950 --> 00:21:29,480
For insults?"
387
00:21:29,549 --> 00:21:30,749
Gravano: When he ordered a hit,
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he wanted it done yesterday.
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00:21:33,850 --> 00:21:36,080
He would send me to supervise
or control it
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or make sure the job got done.
391
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And I obviously did.
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DeStefano: So, they had
DiBernardo come
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to a meeting in Brooklyn to ...
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I think it was
Sammy's office.
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00:21:48,949 --> 00:21:52,379
And while they were making
coffee and DiBernardo
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00:21:52,482 --> 00:21:55,752
was distracted
by talking to Gravano,
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00:21:55,848 --> 00:21:58,478
an old man, "Old Man Paruta,"
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I think was the name,
came up behind DiBernardo
399
00:22:02,048 --> 00:22:07,748
and shot him in the head
and killed him right there.
400
00:22:07,848 --> 00:22:09,848
Papa: Robert DiBernardo
was never seen
401
00:22:09,848 --> 00:22:13,048
or heard from again,
and they never found his body.
402
00:22:13,148 --> 00:22:22,648
??
403
00:22:22,746 --> 00:22:27,946
Feldman:
John Gotti was the number-one target for the government,
404
00:22:28,047 --> 00:22:31,147
partly because he was
rubbing it in their faces,
405
00:22:31,147 --> 00:22:33,247
and government officials
at the time
406
00:22:33,346 --> 00:22:35,576
were very open
about saying that.
407
00:22:35,645 --> 00:22:38,635
He was somebody
they could not permit
408
00:22:38,645 --> 00:22:41,945
to have that kind of power,
if you will.
409
00:22:41,946 --> 00:22:45,846
The feds were going to have
to make a better case.
410
00:22:45,946 --> 00:22:46,946
How do you do that?
411
00:22:47,046 --> 00:22:49,176
They needed quality evidence.
412
00:22:49,245 --> 00:22:53,575
??
413
00:22:53,644 --> 00:22:56,584
Papa: John Gotti inherited
the Ravenite Social Club
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00:22:56,644 --> 00:22:59,544
in Mulberry Street
in little Italy.
415
00:22:59,544 --> 00:23:03,884
And this is where he had
his meetings with his colleagues
416
00:23:03,945 --> 00:23:07,345
and with his crew members.
417
00:23:07,445 --> 00:23:10,335
The feds actually rented
a location
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about a block or two north.
419
00:23:13,344 --> 00:23:16,584
And they started
video surveillance
420
00:23:16,643 --> 00:23:21,143
of Gotti along that street.
421
00:23:21,144 --> 00:23:22,684
They would see his habits
422
00:23:22,743 --> 00:23:25,083
and they would see
who was showing up.
423
00:23:25,144 --> 00:23:28,044
But that wasn't quite enough,
424
00:23:28,043 --> 00:23:29,583
and so what they needed
to do is,
425
00:23:29,642 --> 00:23:31,842
they needed to have recordings
426
00:23:31,843 --> 00:23:35,043
of John Gotti
having conversations.
427
00:23:35,043 --> 00:23:38,583
He would come out and do
what we dubbed "walk talks."
428
00:23:38,642 --> 00:23:41,882
So they would walk
down the street ...
429
00:23:41,943 --> 00:23:43,343
sometimes, it's whispering ...
430
00:23:43,343 --> 00:23:45,743
so they can have a good
criminal conversation,
431
00:23:45,843 --> 00:23:47,583
where it's very tough to bug.
432
00:23:47,641 --> 00:23:50,941
So I started experimenting
with parabolic mics.
433
00:23:51,042 --> 00:23:53,242
I'm putting them
in roof racks of vehicles,
434
00:23:53,342 --> 00:23:57,182
trying to cover as much
of the street as I can.
435
00:23:57,242 --> 00:24:00,582
But it didn't lead
to very much evidence.
436
00:24:02,975 --> 00:24:05,465
We eventually put a bug
in the Ravenite.
437
00:24:05,540 --> 00:24:08,870
And those bugs go on
for several, several months.
438
00:24:08,941 --> 00:24:12,471
We get snippets
of criminal conversation,
439
00:24:12,574 --> 00:24:14,874
but the clubs are very noisy.
440
00:24:14,941 --> 00:24:17,741
The conversations are broken up.
441
00:24:17,740 --> 00:24:19,070
DeStefano: They realized,
at certain points,
442
00:24:19,141 --> 00:24:20,941
that Gotti would be absent
443
00:24:20,941 --> 00:24:22,971
from the conversations.
444
00:24:23,041 --> 00:24:25,941
And they were watching
the club and they said,
445
00:24:26,041 --> 00:24:27,441
"He never left the building.
446
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,040
Where did he go?"
447
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,740
Gabriel: I'm hearing
he's disappearing
448
00:24:30,739 --> 00:24:33,339
for like 45 minutes or an hour.
449
00:24:33,340 --> 00:24:35,870
And, again, I'm checking
my surveillance tapes,
450
00:24:35,940 --> 00:24:38,140
and he's still
in the building.
451
00:24:38,140 --> 00:24:39,940
He hasn't left.
452
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,340
Where is he?
453
00:24:42,439 --> 00:24:45,539
Papa: Then they realized
that John Gotti
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was using an apartment
over the Ravenite Social Club.
455
00:24:50,738 --> 00:24:53,168
This belonged to an older woman.
456
00:24:53,239 --> 00:24:54,839
And they would go up there,
457
00:24:54,939 --> 00:24:56,769
and they would sit
in the living room,
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having a conversation.
459
00:24:59,239 --> 00:25:01,239
That was crucial.
460
00:25:03,638 --> 00:25:06,138
Feldman: They needed to plant
listening devices
461
00:25:06,138 --> 00:25:08,838
in the old lady's apartment.
462
00:25:08,938 --> 00:25:10,768
But how do you do that?
463
00:25:10,838 --> 00:25:14,468
Because she was almost
always there.
464
00:25:14,571 --> 00:25:18,141
Gabriel: I put a device known as
a pen register on her phone ...
465
00:25:18,238 --> 00:25:21,638
it monitors activity ... figuring
that would give me some clues
466
00:25:21,637 --> 00:25:25,337
as to when she was around
or wasn't around.
467
00:25:25,437 --> 00:25:28,867
I have a deal with my tech guys
that if I can assure them that
468
00:25:28,937 --> 00:25:34,037
she's not in on any given night,
that they'd be ready to go.
469
00:25:34,137 --> 00:25:36,737
So they waited and they waited.
470
00:25:36,837 --> 00:25:38,037
There were one or two weekends
471
00:25:38,037 --> 00:25:40,037
where I was
reasonably confident,
472
00:25:40,137 --> 00:25:42,627
from the lack of any activity,
473
00:25:42,635 --> 00:25:45,135
that she was probably
not around.
474
00:25:45,136 --> 00:25:46,336
And I'd wait till about midnight
475
00:25:46,436 --> 00:25:49,366
and I'd call
the number to confirm.
476
00:25:49,469 --> 00:25:51,069
And I'd wind up waking her up.
477
00:25:51,136 --> 00:25:53,166
She'd answer the phone,
and I'd feel terrible
478
00:25:53,236 --> 00:25:56,336
and, you know,
get myself off the line.
479
00:25:56,435 --> 00:25:58,465
But the third or fourth time,
480
00:25:58,535 --> 00:26:00,865
I had like two days
of no activity on the phone.
481
00:26:00,935 --> 00:26:02,465
[Telephone ringing]
482
00:26:02,534 --> 00:26:03,844
She doesn't answer the phone.
483
00:26:03,935 --> 00:26:05,135
So that night, those guys ...
484
00:26:05,235 --> 00:26:06,965
I call them up and said,
"Hey, she's gone."
485
00:26:07,035 --> 00:26:09,325
And they go in
and they put the bugs in.
486
00:26:09,335 --> 00:26:12,365
The FBI broke
into her apartment,
487
00:26:12,468 --> 00:26:16,328
put bugs in in the lamp,
got out and waited.
488
00:26:16,435 --> 00:26:21,925
??
489
00:26:22,034 --> 00:26:27,474
Papa:
On November 30th, the feds were finally able to get very clear,
490
00:26:27,533 --> 00:26:33,433
damaging tapes of John Gotti's
own voice and in his own words.
491
00:26:53,132 --> 00:26:58,172
When you heard him speak,
he was very gruff.
492
00:26:58,232 --> 00:27:00,572
He was very street.
493
00:27:06,332 --> 00:27:09,572
He had a real thick
New York accent.
494
00:27:09,631 --> 00:27:12,031
I believe he never really
gave interviews
495
00:27:12,031 --> 00:27:15,831
because he didn't want
to be heard like that.
496
00:27:15,831 --> 00:27:19,161
Otherwise, he looked pretty
slick and sophisticated
497
00:27:19,231 --> 00:27:21,631
and pretty put together
on the outside.
498
00:27:26,831 --> 00:27:28,631
Feldman: John Gotti ...
he was very comfortable
499
00:27:28,629 --> 00:27:32,929
talking in the confines
of that little apartment.
500
00:27:32,931 --> 00:27:35,731
Conversations are turning
from different topics,
501
00:27:35,729 --> 00:27:38,229
and it goes into
the Paul Castellano hit
502
00:27:38,330 --> 00:27:39,830
and why they killed him.
503
00:27:45,629 --> 00:27:47,459
They were also able
to capture him
504
00:27:47,563 --> 00:27:52,463
talking about the murders
of members of his family.
505
00:28:02,329 --> 00:28:04,229
Cardinale: Those were
the most important tapes
506
00:28:04,329 --> 00:28:06,729
that they got against John.
507
00:28:06,727 --> 00:28:09,557
Raab: It gave them a mountain
of evidence,
508
00:28:09,628 --> 00:28:13,228
and that was the key
to finally indicting him.
509
00:28:13,228 --> 00:28:16,728
??
510
00:28:16,828 --> 00:28:21,028
John Gotti was arrested
on December 11, 1990.
511
00:28:21,128 --> 00:28:22,828
Gabriel: I go barging
into the club,
512
00:28:22,827 --> 00:28:25,327
and there's John and Sammy
sitting at their table.
513
00:28:25,328 --> 00:28:26,828
And, you know, John looks at me.
514
00:28:26,827 --> 00:28:29,127
He goes, "Oh, we were
expecting you.
515
00:28:29,127 --> 00:28:31,257
I know why you're here."
516
00:28:31,327 --> 00:28:33,457
I said, "Well, that's good.
That makes this easy."
517
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:34,930
And he said, "Well, you know,
can we at least
518
00:28:34,927 --> 00:28:36,127
finish our coffee?"
519
00:28:36,127 --> 00:28:37,727
I said, "Yeah, enjoy
your coffee.
520
00:28:37,827 --> 00:28:39,757
We're not in a rush.
521
00:28:39,827 --> 00:28:43,227
We'll be going home later.
You won't be."
522
00:28:43,226 --> 00:28:46,656
There's a classic photo
of the table in the Ravenite
523
00:28:46,725 --> 00:28:48,625
with three cups of espresso,
524
00:28:48,626 --> 00:28:51,716
which was the last espresso
Gotti ever had,
525
00:28:51,725 --> 00:28:54,825
I believe, as a free man.
526
00:28:54,826 --> 00:28:57,926
Man: John Gotti wore his
customary look of nonchalance
527
00:28:57,926 --> 00:29:02,226
as FBI agents led him away from
a federal processing center.
528
00:29:02,326 --> 00:29:04,756
They've said they are determined
to put him in prison
529
00:29:04,825 --> 00:29:06,455
for the rest of his life.
530
00:29:06,524 --> 00:29:12,234
??
531
00:29:14,325 --> 00:29:18,455
??
532
00:29:18,524 --> 00:29:21,064
Man: Gotti and three associates
in the Gambino family
533
00:29:21,125 --> 00:29:22,815
have been indicted
on federal charges
534
00:29:22,924 --> 00:29:27,024
that include murder
and racketeering.
535
00:29:27,024 --> 00:29:28,924
Raab: Shortly before Christmas,
536
00:29:29,024 --> 00:29:31,824
the FBI and
the justice department
537
00:29:31,824 --> 00:29:35,324
indicted him on
a whole bevy of charges
538
00:29:35,324 --> 00:29:37,924
that could lead
to a life sentence.
539
00:29:38,024 --> 00:29:41,364
And they also indicted
Sammy "The Bull" Gravano.
540
00:29:41,456 --> 00:29:43,816
Man: One charge includes
the killing of former mob boss
541
00:29:43,923 --> 00:29:46,463
Paul Castellano,
allegedly rubbed out
542
00:29:46,522 --> 00:29:48,562
so Gotti could take over.
543
00:29:48,622 --> 00:29:50,862
He's a murderer.
He's not a folk hero.
544
00:29:50,923 --> 00:29:53,623
He's charged with four murders
in this indictment.
545
00:29:53,722 --> 00:29:55,162
He's charged
with conspiring to murder
546
00:29:55,223 --> 00:29:58,623
another member of organized
crime in the indictment.
547
00:29:58,722 --> 00:30:00,722
He's a criminal,
in our judgement.
548
00:30:00,823 --> 00:30:02,863
Feldman: Certainly, the press
at the time were at the point
549
00:30:02,923 --> 00:30:05,863
where it was another
John Gotti bust.
550
00:30:05,922 --> 00:30:08,322
Let's see how he gets
out of this one.
551
00:30:10,755 --> 00:30:14,615
So, before the trial began,
various recordings were played,
552
00:30:14,621 --> 00:30:18,021
and John Gotti
and his other defendants,
553
00:30:18,021 --> 00:30:20,151
including
Sammy "The Bull" Gravano,
554
00:30:20,221 --> 00:30:22,451
were present to hear that.
555
00:30:22,554 --> 00:30:26,454
There was a sense that Gotti and
Gravano were in this together,
556
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,550
they were partners
in everything they were doing.
557
00:30:30,620 --> 00:30:34,420
The apartment bug,
where Gotti was picked up,
558
00:30:34,421 --> 00:30:37,951
ultimately had
another twist to it.
559
00:30:38,021 --> 00:30:42,321
Gravano was not always present
for these conversations.
560
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:47,150
And on some of the tapes,
Gotti was not, to put it mildly,
561
00:30:47,220 --> 00:30:50,620
charitable in his comments
about Gravano.
562
00:30:50,719 --> 00:30:54,219
DeStefano: Gotti is heard
complaining about Gravano.
563
00:30:54,220 --> 00:30:55,520
He ruminated about
564
00:30:55,519 --> 00:31:00,419
Sammy "The Bull" Gravano's
earning power.
565
00:31:00,419 --> 00:31:04,019
But, more importantly,
he implicates Sammy
566
00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:05,719
in like three murders.
567
00:31:14,052 --> 00:31:15,822
Papa: The tapes
were being played.
568
00:31:15,918 --> 00:31:18,748
Gravano and Gotti
were sitting there.
569
00:31:18,818 --> 00:31:21,918
And it isn't pretty.
570
00:31:22,018 --> 00:31:24,848
You can only imagine
what's going on in their minds.
571
00:31:24,918 --> 00:31:27,618
That was going to be a problem.
572
00:31:27,717 --> 00:31:32,547
Gravano: When I heard this tape,
I was devastated.
573
00:31:32,617 --> 00:31:36,317
He's betraying me
behind my back.
574
00:31:36,317 --> 00:31:40,447
Cardinale:
Sammy started to see that he was in deep, deep trouble.
575
00:31:40,550 --> 00:31:42,950
He saw the writing on the wall.
576
00:31:43,017 --> 00:31:45,117
Raab: A major weakness in Gotti
577
00:31:45,217 --> 00:31:47,717
was this misjudgment
of characters.
578
00:31:47,817 --> 00:31:50,547
What he really didn't
understand about Sammy
579
00:31:50,616 --> 00:31:51,816
is that, very simply,
580
00:31:51,817 --> 00:31:54,217
Sammy had never served
any jail time.
581
00:31:54,217 --> 00:31:57,917
Nobody knew what his character
would be if he got into trouble.
582
00:32:01,016 --> 00:32:05,946
Sammy "The Bull" Gravano
notified the FBI
583
00:32:06,016 --> 00:32:08,916
that he was willing to defect.
584
00:32:09,015 --> 00:32:10,505
Cardinale: One day,
all of a sudden,
585
00:32:10,515 --> 00:32:13,445
he is supposedly taken out
for medical reasons,
586
00:32:13,548 --> 00:32:15,448
and he never comes back.
587
00:32:15,548 --> 00:32:18,318
And it becomes clear to everyone
that the reason he's gone
588
00:32:18,415 --> 00:32:22,205
is because he's decided
to become a government witness.
589
00:32:22,215 --> 00:32:26,845
He is actually now
working with the FBI.
590
00:32:26,915 --> 00:32:30,845
Feldman: That was a monumental
decision for him,
591
00:32:30,914 --> 00:32:34,814
and it was a major win
for the government.
592
00:32:34,914 --> 00:32:37,254
Cardinale: It was shocking.
There's no question about it.
593
00:32:37,314 --> 00:32:40,214
No one ever expected
that to happen.
594
00:32:40,314 --> 00:32:43,214
Gravano knew
where all the skeletons
595
00:32:43,214 --> 00:32:46,814
were buried, literally.
596
00:32:46,914 --> 00:32:48,854
John's a double-crosser.
597
00:32:48,913 --> 00:32:50,953
I'm a master double-crosser.
598
00:32:51,013 --> 00:32:53,653
We played chess, and he lost.
599
00:32:53,712 --> 00:32:58,912
??
600
00:33:01,413 --> 00:33:02,613
Man: No tickets are being sold,
601
00:33:02,712 --> 00:33:04,812
but the January trial
of John Gotti
602
00:33:04,812 --> 00:33:08,312
promises to be a bout
of major proportions.
603
00:33:10,745 --> 00:33:13,045
Feldman: The trial, if you will,
of John Gotti started
604
00:33:13,112 --> 00:33:16,212
on the 21st of January in 1992.
605
00:33:16,312 --> 00:33:18,552
Papa:
The charges were sensational.
606
00:33:18,611 --> 00:33:21,011
The murders were sensational.
607
00:33:21,112 --> 00:33:23,552
And here's John Gotti.
608
00:33:23,611 --> 00:33:25,311
Will he beat this rap?
609
00:33:25,412 --> 00:33:27,742
That was really the question.
610
00:33:29,411 --> 00:33:32,211
Miller: Entering the fourth
trial, it did appear
611
00:33:32,211 --> 00:33:35,711
that the government
pulled out all stops.
612
00:33:35,811 --> 00:33:38,141
Papa: This was almost
about reputations,
613
00:33:38,211 --> 00:33:40,911
that the prosecutors
needed this conviction
614
00:33:41,011 --> 00:33:44,841
because John Gotti was
getting away with murder.
615
00:33:44,911 --> 00:33:47,011
Feldman: This case against
John Gotti was executed
616
00:33:47,110 --> 00:33:48,610
in a very different way.
617
00:33:48,609 --> 00:33:50,639
So, let's take the jury,
for example.
618
00:33:50,709 --> 00:33:53,839
The jury was sequestered
throughout the entire trial,
619
00:33:53,910 --> 00:33:58,740
and that was something that was
not the norm at all at the time.
620
00:33:58,810 --> 00:34:00,140
There was a genuine concern,
621
00:34:00,210 --> 00:34:03,440
because of the prior
jury-fixing incidents,
622
00:34:03,543 --> 00:34:05,843
that, somehow, Gotti
or his henchmen
623
00:34:05,910 --> 00:34:08,010
would try to reach out
to one or more
624
00:34:08,009 --> 00:34:12,509
jury members
to fix the trial.
625
00:34:12,508 --> 00:34:13,908
Unlike previous attempts,
626
00:34:14,009 --> 00:34:16,209
this time,
the federal government
627
00:34:16,309 --> 00:34:19,839
had two things going
for its case against John Gotti.
628
00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:23,209
The first thing, of course,
is it had those recordings,
629
00:34:23,208 --> 00:34:26,438
the recordings that were made
where you can hear
630
00:34:26,507 --> 00:34:27,807
John Gotti discussing
631
00:34:27,908 --> 00:34:32,738
all sorts of nefarious
operations of his family.
632
00:34:32,808 --> 00:34:34,938
The tapes were very compelling.
633
00:34:35,008 --> 00:34:37,238
Gabriel: What's he going to say?
"I didn't say that"?
634
00:34:37,308 --> 00:34:41,538
The evidence was very strong.
635
00:34:41,606 --> 00:34:43,806
Feldman: And the most important
thing they had
636
00:34:43,807 --> 00:34:46,437
was Sammy "The Bull" Gravano.
637
00:34:49,407 --> 00:34:51,707
Man: Sammy "The Bull" Gravano
took the witness stand
638
00:34:51,807 --> 00:34:54,137
in Brooklyn Federal Court
Monday.
639
00:34:54,207 --> 00:34:56,207
Feldman: The case
has been unfolding now
640
00:34:56,307 --> 00:34:58,537
for a little more
than a month or so.
641
00:34:58,605 --> 00:35:01,135
The moment that everybody
was now waiting for ...
642
00:35:01,206 --> 00:35:05,706
the testimony in court
of Sammy "The Bull" Gravano.
643
00:35:05,806 --> 00:35:09,736
That was a big deal,
because it had never happened
644
00:35:09,806 --> 00:35:14,096
before in any Mafia case
anywhere in the world, really,
645
00:35:14,105 --> 00:35:17,905
that you would have someone
that powerful come and testify
646
00:35:18,005 --> 00:35:22,335
in court against
his former boss, John Gotti.
647
00:35:22,438 --> 00:35:26,808
Gravano: I knew at that point
my life was over
648
00:35:26,905 --> 00:35:29,695
as Salvatore
"Sammy The Bull" Gravano.
649
00:35:29,704 --> 00:35:32,244
I would be called a rat,
a traitor, an informer.
650
00:35:32,305 --> 00:35:35,295
I would be called
a million different names.
651
00:35:35,305 --> 00:35:39,195
My family would have to live
through this horror,
652
00:35:39,205 --> 00:35:41,095
but I was done.
653
00:35:43,304 --> 00:35:46,744
Papa: Gravano came onto
that witness stand,
654
00:35:46,804 --> 00:35:49,204
into the seat so quietly.
655
00:35:49,204 --> 00:35:53,304
Everybody really held
their collective breath.
656
00:35:53,403 --> 00:35:58,243
It was a very
dramatic experience.
657
00:35:58,303 --> 00:36:02,743
Gotti had a kind
of smirk on his face.
658
00:36:02,803 --> 00:36:04,243
Gotti might have been thinking,
659
00:36:04,303 --> 00:36:11,703
"If I walk out of this one,
good luck, Mr. Gravano."
660
00:36:11,803 --> 00:36:14,543
Man: Gravano admitted that
he was the underboss,
661
00:36:14,601 --> 00:36:15,901
the second-in-command,
662
00:36:16,002 --> 00:36:18,202
of the nation's
most powerful Mafia family,
663
00:36:18,302 --> 00:36:22,442
the Gambinos, at the time
he and Gotti were arrested.
664
00:36:22,501 --> 00:36:25,441
Gravano testified
that John Gotti helped plan
665
00:36:25,501 --> 00:36:30,441
the 1985 rub-out
of godfather Paul Castellano.
666
00:36:30,501 --> 00:36:32,531
In one of the most
significant mob defections
667
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,230
in U.S. history,
Gravano described,
668
00:36:35,302 --> 00:36:36,902
in blood-curdling detail,
669
00:36:37,001 --> 00:36:39,801
the plot to kill
Paul Castellano.
670
00:36:39,801 --> 00:36:42,701
He testified, I think,
for nine days.
671
00:36:42,801 --> 00:36:45,931
Thornburgh: He had intimate
knowledge that was corroborated
672
00:36:46,001 --> 00:36:50,931
by the actual tapes that
were taken of conversations.
673
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,000
Papa: Sammy Gravano knew
what was going on.
674
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,030
He knew the people involved.
675
00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:58,600
He knew the people
that were murdered.
676
00:36:58,699 --> 00:37:02,599
Man:
Gravano also testified about how he was inducted into the Mafia,
677
00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:05,429
how then-godfather
Paul Castellano told him that
678
00:37:05,533 --> 00:37:08,403
if he should ever break
the Mafia's code of silence,
679
00:37:08,399 --> 00:37:10,299
his soul would burn.
680
00:37:10,299 --> 00:37:12,199
As Gravano testified to this,
681
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,500
John Gotti looked at him
and smiled.
682
00:37:15,498 --> 00:37:18,198
Papa: Gravano was not
going to be unnerved,
683
00:37:18,299 --> 00:37:19,429
and he wasn't.
684
00:37:19,498 --> 00:37:22,198
He was an excellent witness.
685
00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:25,829
Gravano really was
the cement for the case.
686
00:37:25,899 --> 00:37:30,029
??
687
00:37:30,098 --> 00:37:32,328
Man: The jury surprised
just about everyone
688
00:37:32,431 --> 00:37:34,101
with the speed
of its deliberation ...
689
00:37:34,198 --> 00:37:35,528
about a day and a half.
690
00:37:35,597 --> 00:37:37,197
John Gotti has been found guilty
691
00:37:37,298 --> 00:37:40,298
and will face life in prison.
692
00:37:40,298 --> 00:37:44,998
Papa: He was found guilty
of everything, and it was over.
693
00:37:44,997 --> 00:37:47,997
Feldman: This was the first time
in his career
694
00:37:48,097 --> 00:37:52,597
as a Mafia boss that Gotti
had been found guilty.
695
00:37:52,696 --> 00:37:55,996
Cardinale:
Five of those counts were murder and aid of racketeering
696
00:37:56,097 --> 00:38:00,097
that carried mandatory
life-imprisonment sentences.
697
00:38:00,197 --> 00:38:02,027
The Teflon is gone.
698
00:38:02,097 --> 00:38:03,797
The don is covered with Velcro,
699
00:38:03,797 --> 00:38:08,397
and every charge
in the indictment stuck.
700
00:38:08,396 --> 00:38:10,796
Schumacher: Gotti was sent
to a maximum-security
701
00:38:10,796 --> 00:38:13,896
federal penitentiary
in Marion, Illinois.
702
00:38:13,896 --> 00:38:18,126
And not only that,
he was placed in, essentially ...
703
00:38:18,196 --> 00:38:23,796
23 hours a day,
he was in solitary confinement.
704
00:38:23,896 --> 00:38:26,096
Papa:
It was over for John Gotti.
705
00:38:26,195 --> 00:38:31,895
He was in one of the most
punitive prisons in the country.
706
00:38:31,995 --> 00:38:34,885
The "New York Daily News"
said, in August,
707
00:38:34,895 --> 00:38:37,585
believes John Gotti is still
leading a crime family
708
00:38:37,594 --> 00:38:38,894
from prison.
709
00:38:38,895 --> 00:38:41,085
Under his conditions,
that's quite a feat.
710
00:38:41,195 --> 00:38:42,885
Which is what?
He's in behind ...
711
00:38:42,995 --> 00:38:46,285
He is in 23-1/2-hour
lockup in Marion,
712
00:38:46,395 --> 00:38:49,425
which is a
super-maximum-security facility,
713
00:38:49,493 --> 00:38:52,933
and there's no communication
other than
714
00:38:52,994 --> 00:38:56,334
with an immediate family member
once or twice a month.
715
00:38:56,427 --> 00:39:00,227
??
716
00:39:00,293 --> 00:39:02,193
Feldman:
For a long period of time,
717
00:39:02,193 --> 00:39:04,693
the name John Gotti actually
kind of disappeared
718
00:39:04,692 --> 00:39:09,092
from the public's consciousness
because he was behind bars.
719
00:39:09,193 --> 00:39:10,593
But it was known
that he was ill.
720
00:39:10,692 --> 00:39:14,632
It was known that he was
suffering from throat cancer.
721
00:39:14,692 --> 00:39:18,892
And then, ultimately,
on June 10, 2002,
722
00:39:18,892 --> 00:39:21,932
he succumbed to the cancer.
723
00:39:21,992 --> 00:39:25,992
Man:
Family, friends, and associates gathered to give John Gotti,
724
00:39:25,992 --> 00:39:28,792
a man convicted of murder
and racketeering,
725
00:39:28,892 --> 00:39:30,292
a hero's send-off.
726
00:39:30,292 --> 00:39:32,892
The procession of vehicles,
led by limousines
727
00:39:32,992 --> 00:39:35,432
bearing elaborate
flower arrangements,
728
00:39:35,491 --> 00:39:36,921
stopped at Gotti's home,
729
00:39:36,992 --> 00:39:39,422
where more people
gathered for a glimpse
730
00:39:39,490 --> 00:39:40,730
and to pay respect.
731
00:39:40,791 --> 00:39:46,621
??
732
00:39:46,690 --> 00:39:48,590
Gabriel: For all the fanfare
with John Gotti,
733
00:39:48,590 --> 00:39:51,320
he was the least-effective
boss that ever existed.
734
00:39:51,424 --> 00:39:56,024
Raab: The truth about Gotti was,
he was an incompetent,
735
00:39:56,090 --> 00:39:59,190
almost imbecilic mob leader.
736
00:39:59,291 --> 00:40:04,691
He came in deciding that he was
going to remake the Mafia.
737
00:40:04,689 --> 00:40:09,419
Instead, he became
a whirlwind for disaster.
738
00:40:09,489 --> 00:40:11,589
Papa: The Gambino crime family
continued on
739
00:40:11,589 --> 00:40:13,719
but, I would say,
in a more crippled state.
740
00:40:13,789 --> 00:40:16,489
We took the unions away
because of his conviction,
741
00:40:16,489 --> 00:40:18,789
which weakened
all the other families.
742
00:40:18,889 --> 00:40:21,289
Feldman: And after John Gotti's
conviction
743
00:40:21,289 --> 00:40:24,219
and after the turning
of Gravano,
744
00:40:24,289 --> 00:40:26,889
more mob members
started turning
745
00:40:26,989 --> 00:40:30,689
and became witnesses
in various cases
746
00:40:30,789 --> 00:40:33,689
for the federal government.
747
00:40:33,789 --> 00:40:35,319
Gabriel: John Gotti is the boss
748
00:40:35,421 --> 00:40:37,921
that brought
the whole Mafia down.
749
00:40:37,989 --> 00:40:39,289
He brought the attention to it,
750
00:40:39,388 --> 00:40:41,188
thinking that he was
untouchable.
751
00:40:41,288 --> 00:40:44,488
It's that kind of arrogance
that ruins empires.
752
00:40:44,487 --> 00:40:47,787
John Gotti wasn't Robin Hood.
753
00:40:47,888 --> 00:40:49,688
He was a murderer.
754
00:40:52,820 --> 00:40:56,920
Raab: Perhaps what sums
him up best, in some respects,
755
00:40:56,987 --> 00:41:00,187
he was talking to one
of his daughters, Victoria,
756
00:41:00,187 --> 00:41:03,917
about his life and how wonderful
he was and how,
757
00:41:03,987 --> 00:41:07,787
because of him, the Gambino
family would be so strong.
758
00:41:07,787 --> 00:41:09,187
And he tells his daughter,
759
00:41:09,187 --> 00:41:13,787
"You will never see
another guy like me
760
00:41:13,786 --> 00:41:18,386
if you live to be
5,000 years old."
761
00:41:18,386 --> 00:41:19,616
Can you believe this?
762
00:41:19,685 --> 00:41:22,215
This is what he tells
his daughter,
763
00:41:22,286 --> 00:41:24,516
while he's almost
rotting in prison.
764
00:41:24,585 --> 00:41:36,085
??
765
00:41:36,185 --> 00:41:40,215
John Gotti, inmate 182-053,
766
00:41:40,285 --> 00:41:43,675
lived nearly a decade
in prison before passing away.
767
00:41:43,785 --> 00:41:45,915
The Brooklyn Catholic
diocese denied him
768
00:41:45,985 --> 00:41:47,975
the honor of a funeral mass,
769
00:41:48,085 --> 00:41:50,575
but his family went forward
with a burial,
770
00:41:50,684 --> 00:41:52,924
laying him to rest
in a gold casket.
771
00:41:52,985 --> 00:41:56,115
He is entombed in a mausoleum
in Queens, New York,
772
00:41:56,184 --> 00:41:59,424
directly beside
his beloved son, Frankie.
773
00:41:59,517 --> 00:42:02,417
I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
Thanks for watching.
774
00:42:02,517 --> 00:42:03,977
Good night.
775
00:42:04,027 --> 00:42:08,577
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