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Welcome to "Very Scary People."
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I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
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He was one of the biggest
celebrities of the 1980s.
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His expensive suits and swagger
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earned him
the nickname "Dapper Don."
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But, in reality, John Gotti
was a man to be feared,
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a ruthless, dangerous gangster
who ordered hits on his enemies,
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his friends,
anyone who crossed him.
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How did this common
street thug end up
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ruling one of the most powerful
crime families in the world?
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This is "John Gotti."
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Feldman:
Carlo Gambino was, in 1973,
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the head of
the Gambino crime family.
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His nephew was kidnapped
and held for ransom.
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The ransom money
was partly paid,
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but unfortunately
for the nephew,
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the nephew was executed anyway.
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This, of course,
didn't sit well with Carlo.
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Feldman: Vengeance is the order
of the day in mob families,
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and so a contract
was put out to go
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after and kill those responsible
for killing his nephew.
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And that contract went out
to, among others, John Gotti.
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Gabriel: John's introduction
to the family,
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or his bona fides,
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were gained by participating
in the murder of a guy
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by the name
of James McBratney.
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McBratney was suspected
of having kidnapped
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and killed
the nephew of Gambino.
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McBratney:
My dad was larger than life.
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As a little boy,
I remember looking up
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and seeing how big he was,
and he had tattoos all over.
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He was funny.
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He was loved by a lot of people.
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He had gotten caught up
in doing some burglaries
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and he was sentenced
to four years.
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When he was in prison, he made
plans to kidnap gangsters
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and hold them for ransom
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because the wise guys
wouldn't call the police.
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They would just pay.
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They put a contract
out on my father,
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and I was told
that my father was aware
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there was a contract
out on his life.
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I met a guy who saw him,
and he had told my father,
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"Why don't you just leave?
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Why don't you just get out
of New York for a while?"
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And his answer was, "And what?
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Leave my children?"
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Therein lay the first
substantial homicide case
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that Gotti got involved in.
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They found McBratney
at a bar in Staten Island.
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Raab: It was Gotti, his pal
Angelo Ruggiero,
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and a third person who they
really didn't know too well.
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The three of them walked in
pretending to be detectives.
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They shot a bullet
into the ceiling
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to get everyone's attention.
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And they approached my father,
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and the gentleman who was
sitting next to my father
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told me that Gotti grabbed
one arm of my father,
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and they said,
"We are taking you with us."
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My father wasn't going
anywhere with anybody.
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The guy told me ... he said,
"Your father dragged
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Gotti and Ruggiero down
all the way
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to the back of the bar
to the back room."
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He was getting out
of their grip,
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and that's when they killed him.
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McBratney was dead
on the barroom floor.
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When I first saw the photo,
my heart stopped,
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my breathing stopped.
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I don't know anybody
who could really see
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a picture of their father
laying dead on the floor
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and not feel shock.
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The shoes that were on
my father in the photo,
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I remembered loving
those shoes.
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I couldn't wait to wear them.
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I wanted to be like him,
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like every kid wants to be
like his father.
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There were three little kids
and a wife and mother
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who were left so hurt,
so broken.
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Did I want revenge?
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Absolutely, I wanted revenge.
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Raab:
The three of them shot McBratney in front of dozens of witnesses
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who could identify them
from rogues' galleries.
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Sooner or later, Gotti knew
the jig was going to be up.
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Schumacher:
This was not the smartest hit
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that John Gotti
was ever involved in,
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because they
weren't wearing masks.
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They weren't trying
to hide their identities.
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And so it wasn't all that hard
to find him once they knew
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he was involved
in the murder.
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Gotti ultimately surrendered
and, lo and behold,
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got one of the most expensive
criminal lawyers in New York,
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a barrister by the name
of Roy Cohn,
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who made his reputation
as the chief counsel
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for Joe McCarthy
in the notorious crack down
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on leftists in the 1950s.
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He had tremendous influence
in New York city.
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He was involved in prosecuting
the Rosenbergs,
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later represented
Donald Trump.
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Roy Cohn arranged
what can be described
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as an unbelievable
sentence for Gotti.
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He eventually copped a plea
to manslaughter and served,
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I believe, four years
in state penitentiary.
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Destefano:
After Gotti got out of prison for the McBratney killing,
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soon after that,
he was inducted into Mafia,
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became a made member.
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And in that world,
that's the Holy Grail.
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Feldman: Contrary to what
many people think,
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not every person
who was in the Mafia
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was considered a full-fledged
member of the mob.
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In fact, most aren't.
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And very few people
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are selected
to become made men.
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Being a made member of the Mafia
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was really everything
that these guys aspired to.
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Gabriel:
One of the things you have to do to be proposed as a made member
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and actually be inducted is,
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you have to participate
in a murder.
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They want to check your loyalty.
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Papa: That earns you merit
in organized crime.
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You show that you have
the courage
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or the temerity to do it.
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Making your bones
basically means
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that you're proving
you're bona fide.
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Gotti made his bones
by killing my father.
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Destefano: The induction
ceremony is a meeting
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with other crime-family members,
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where you're basically sworn
loyalty to the life.
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Fingers were pricked to show
that you would give your blood.
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And they burned a picture
of a saint in your hand
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with the admonition
that if you betray
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the brotherhood
of the crime family,
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you will burn
as the saint is doing.
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Schumacher: In other words,
this is going to be your life,
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and you are going to follow
the principles of the Mafia
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throughout your life up to
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and including a complete
loyalty to the mob,
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even above your own family.
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Destefano:
And Gotti wanted nothing more than to be a gangster.
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That really is
a signature moment.
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Schumacher: So, a Mafia family
has a structure.
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You have the boss, of course,
at the top.
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Right below the boss
is the underboss.
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And underneath the underboss,
there's a series of capos,
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or captains,
who are really like crew chiefs.
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After Gotti became a made man,
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he became the captain of a crew
based in Queens.
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Morrill:
From the moment that John came on the scene, you could see,
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in the way he walked,
the way he held himself,
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the way he carried himself,
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he had a very strong opinion
of himself.
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He had the knowledge
and understanding
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that he could do
anything he wanted to do
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without anyone
coming back at him.
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Destefano: Gotti, particularly
as a capo and ruler,
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could be very demanding,
very brutal, very threatening.
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Cardinale: If he was not happy,
he was not shy
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about letting people
know about it.
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It was almost a storm front
if he was mad.
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You did not want to get
inside that front.
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There were times
that you would see him,
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and he would be adamantly
pointing fingers into the chest
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of some other member of the crew
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so that they should
follow his orders
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or they would suffer
the consequences.
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They heard him often
berating people who made
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what he considered
the slightest insult.
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And if you weren't
convinced by that,
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you probably
weren't going to survive.
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To understand the Mafia,
it's important to know
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its roots in America.
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Schumacher: In the late 1800s
and in the early 1900s,
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the United States saw just a
massive immigration of Italians,
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and especially Italians
from Sicily.
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And they were really
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almost immediately
discriminated against.
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They were treated
as second-class citizens.
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A large majority of individuals
would say, "You know what?
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We're gonna work hard.
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We're gonna just do our best
to achieve the American dream."
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However, there was certainly
a percentage of immigrants
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who said, "You know what?
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We need a shortcut."
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And formed into gangs.
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But the street gangs were not
particularly well-organized.
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There was this notion
that things could be better.
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And no one saw that more clearly
than Charles "Lucky" Luciano.
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Raab:
Prohibition occurred, and to run an important bootlegging ring,
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you had to become
almost an executive.
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You had to import or manufacture
booze and beer.
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You had to have a sophisticated
trucking system,
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delivery system.
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So they became big.
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But the Italian-Americans
were fighting with each other
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for territory,
killing each other.
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There were gang wars.
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Luciano saw that this was
no good for business
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and that the only solution
was some kind of setup
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where it would be
more profitable,
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at the same time,
less dangerous.
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Schumacher: So he created
something called the commission,
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and the commission was
like a board of directors
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for the national
crime syndicate.
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Raab: He organized some 20-odd
families throughout the country,
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the commission,
to resolve all major disputes.
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In addition to that, it actually
wrote a constitution,
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dos and don'ts, how you could
become a made guy,
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how you were supposed
to conduct yourself,
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all sorts of rules
and regulations,
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and that you could never be
disloyal to the organization.
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Omerta ... never cooperate,
never talk with law enforcement.
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It's really kind of this whole
structured environment.
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Feldman:
Cosa nostra is what most Americans refer to as the Mafia.
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The literal translation
is "our thing."
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And it is a kind
of umbrella title
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that encompasses many
different mob families.
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The mob scene in the 1970s
and 1980s in New York City
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revolved around
the five classic Mafia families.
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They were the Genovese, Gambino,
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Lucchese, Bonanno,
and Colombo crime families.
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Feldman: The Gambino family,
which was the family
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that John Gotti ultimately
ended up heading,
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was at one time considered
the most powerful
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of the five Mafia families
in New York city.
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It was powerful because
it had its tentacles
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in many different areas,
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from construction
to airport operations.
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Cardinale: There was nothing,
according to the government,
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that was built
that involved concrete
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that they didn't have some
involvement and made money from.
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Gabriel:
Organized crime and the Mafia families survived
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by the revenue that they
can generate, basically,
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from criminal conduct.
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They were bookmakers.
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They were loan sharks.
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They were extorting businesses
for protection money.
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You'd go into a restaurant
or a store in your neighborhood
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and warn them something
might happen
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unless they paid you some fees.
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"I'm going to protect you
or I'm going to beat you up.
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Which one are you
going to pick?"
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These threats often
were very effective.
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If you knew that something bad
could happen to you,
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you would find a way to pay.
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The threat of actually
being killed
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is something that was
very real at that time.
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By definition, you cannot be
the head of a mob family
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without being feared
both by the public
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and, more importantly,
I suppose,
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by the people who work
for you in that family.
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They're dangerous,
ruthless people.
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Killing is in their fabric.
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When you're doing street crimes
and robberies and hijackings,
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you need tough guys.
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John Gotti had a reputation
of being a tough guy.
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So somebody steps out of line,
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you need folks
who can enforce it.
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John Gotti and his crew
were enforcers.
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Whether it was as simple
as giving somebody a beating
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or escalating it
all the way up
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to actually having
to take a life,
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he was known as a reliable
person that can do that.
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Feldman: John Gotti rose
through the ranks
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by things
like loan-sharking.
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Schumacher:
Loan-sharking is the notion of giving out loans
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to someone who needs money fast,
who needs cash,
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and they're expected
to be paid back quickly.
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In the case of Gotti's crew,
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they were extremely effective
at getting their money.
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And if they didn't get
their money,
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people knew what
the consequences were.
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Gotti and his enforcers
could be very ruthless.
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One of the main methods
of organized crime to gain funds
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was hijacking.
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By the time the
early-to-mid-'70s came along,
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he would actually
go out on hijackings.
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Destefano: The trucks would
come off of the JFK area.
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They'd be pulled over
by a couple of cars
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that blocked their way.
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The hijackers would go up.
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They would tell the driver,
"Listen, give us the truck.
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And by the way, from your
license, we know who you are,
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so don't go running
to the cops."
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You got goods that
you could fence.
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Destefano: And that's how
John got his footing
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into the organized-crime arena.
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??
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Woman: Mrs. Gotti was extremely
nice and polite
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as she refused our request
for an interview,
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saying her husband had joked
he'd take her to the dentist
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and have her mouth glued shut
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if she did any more
talking to the press.
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Gotti got married fairly early,
when he was 22, to Victoria.
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Victoria Digiorgio was a very
striking dark-haired woman.
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Papa: But they had a rough time.
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I think he maybe wasn't
the easiest person to deal with.
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Raab: First of all,
he was fooling around a lot
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with other women,
which she knew.
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He would disappear for days.
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Destefano: In the early days,
they didn't have much money,
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and the story was that,
at one point,
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Gotti sneaked Victoria
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and one of their children
out of the hospital
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because he couldn't
pay the bill.
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Mom is, in a nutshell,
to sum up ...
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she's an old-fashioned woman,
very traditional,
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raised with the belief
that her children, her husband,
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her home is the most important
thing, in that order.
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Papa: John Gotti and his family
lived in Howard Beach, Queens.
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It was not some big,
flashy house, McMansion.
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It was a modest home
right on the block.
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And that's where he lived
for many, many years.
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Gotti had five children ...
three boys and two daughters.
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King: What was it like
growing up a Gotti?
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Victoria: Growing up a Gotti.
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It was regimented, warm.
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We were ... I think early on,
it was instilled in all of us
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that we were
a close-knit family.
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We had to remain
a close-knit family.
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And I think that, growing up,
my dad executed the values
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and the morals that he wanted us
to take through life.
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Cardinale: His sons and his
two daughters were a big,
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big, big part of his life.
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You could tell that just
whenever he spoke about them.
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Papa: He was very close
to his kids.
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He loved them.
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I think he wanted
to be protective
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and he wanted to do
what he could for them.
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Destefano: And therein,
of course, lay the route
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to one of the tragedies
in their life.
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??
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Raab: Gotti's youngest son,
frank, of course,
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grew up in Howard Beach.
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Frankie, who was kind
of the apple of his eye,
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had a minibike,
a small, miniature motorcycle.
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And he drove it out in the
street one day between cars
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and he was hit.
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Papa: And the young boy died.
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The Howard Beach driver
who struck and killed
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little Frankie was John Favara,
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and he was a person
from the neighborhood.
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He lived not far
from the Gottis,
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probably a few houses away.
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And that, of course, sent Gotti,
his wife, and his whole family
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into a tailspin
of depression and grief.
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Papa: Police, at the time,
investigated and they determined
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that this was an accident.
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The man who ran over and killed
John Gotti's son,
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at one point, went to apologize
to John Gotti and his wife.
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I think Victoria Gotti felt that
he didn't show enough remorse,
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and she did not forgive him.
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And there's a story that
she went after him with a bat.
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Favara knew who
he was dealing with,
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and I'm sure he was frightened.
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John Favara was kidnapped
from his place of business
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out on Long Island
by a group of men.
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A few weeks after, a few months,
the guy disappeared.
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Eyewitnesses claimed they
saw him being hit over the head
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and put into
the back of a car.
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Favara was never seen again.
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Destefano:
The story that we subsequently were able to piece together
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was that Favara was killed
and that his body,
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according to court records,
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was dissolved in acid
in a junkyard in East New York.
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Gotti, as I recall,
at the time, had an alibi.
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He said he was away in Florida
when that happened.
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Schumacher:
I think there's no question that the disappearance
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of John Favara
sent a message to the community
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that Gotti was someone
to be reckoned with.
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??
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For somebody to just disappear
off the face of the earth,
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never to be seen again,
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that had to send a chill
through the neighborhood.
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He meant business.
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That's where he comes
across as scary.
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Who was going to mess with that?
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Woman: Of such stories,
legends are born,
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and John Gotti lives up to his.
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??
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??
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Welcome back to
"Very Scary People."
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By the late 1970s, John Gotti
was working his way up
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the ranks of the Gambino
crime family
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as a solid earner
and vicious capo,
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determined to not let anything
or anyone stand in his way.
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Soon, he would become the boss
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of a multi-million-dollar
criminal operation.
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For Gotti, it all started
in the boogie-down Bronx.
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??
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Feldman: John Gotti was born
on the 27th of October
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in 1940 in the South Bronx.
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His grandparents came over from,
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as they used to say,
"the old country".
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He had a troubled childhood.
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Raab: His father was a laborer
who earned almost nothing.
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He had 12 siblings, big family,
and his poor father
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really couldn't provide
for all of them.
401
00:22:39,776 --> 00:22:43,276
Gotti grew up in
a very haggard type of way.
402
00:22:43,279 --> 00:22:44,609
He was embarrassed.
403
00:22:44,678 --> 00:22:46,708
He claimed later that
when he went to school,
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00:22:46,779 --> 00:22:50,309
he was wearing different
shoes on each foot.
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00:22:50,382 --> 00:22:51,822
His clothes were ragged.
406
00:22:51,882 --> 00:22:54,282
The other kids made fun of him.
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00:22:54,283 --> 00:22:57,123
That's when he learned
to use his fast fists,
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00:22:57,184 --> 00:22:59,324
because he had to fight his way
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00:22:59,385 --> 00:23:02,885
to get any kind of
recognition and respect.
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00:23:02,986 --> 00:23:05,886
Things improved for him
when he was just in his teens,
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00:23:05,887 --> 00:23:08,617
when his father and his mother
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moved to East New York
in Brooklyn.
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If you wanted to exist
in your neighborhood
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and show your machismo,
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00:23:15,789 --> 00:23:18,219
you had to be part
of a street gang.
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He didn't have much
of an education,
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but he was smart and
and he knew how to hustle.
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So got involved with people
on the street.
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Raab: In one situation,
he was doing a theft.
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He broke into a construction
area in the neighborhood
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and he dropped a heavy piece
of equipment on his foot.
422
00:23:39,198 --> 00:23:41,998
And he actually broke
one of his toes,
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which gave him a limp
for the rest of his life.
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Some people thought
it was a swagger,
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but he obtained it
by fouling up on a simple crime.
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00:23:52,802 --> 00:23:56,402
Mafia bosses and their
lieutenants in the neighborhoods
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were always on the lookout
for possible recruits,
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00:24:01,106 --> 00:24:04,306
people who were hard and tough
and would carry out orders.
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And he shined in those aspects.
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00:24:07,008 --> 00:24:08,408
There's a certain
level of respect
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00:24:08,508 --> 00:24:12,408
that he wanted perhaps that,
in his life,
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he wasn't really
getting it anywhere else.
433
00:24:15,211 --> 00:24:18,951
Here were these guys
driving around in flashy cars,
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hanging around these clubs,
attracting women.
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00:24:22,313 --> 00:24:26,013
The only chance he had,
in his viewpoint,
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for success was crime.
437
00:24:28,216 --> 00:24:33,216
??
438
00:24:33,217 --> 00:24:36,317
Gotti, in his teens
and early 20s,
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was part of a crew
that was part
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of the Gambino crime family
in East New York.
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And Gambino's second-in-command
was a man by the name
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of Aniello Dellacroce,
better known as "Neil."
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Cardinale: Aniello Dellacroce
was a very powerful individual
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00:24:55,724 --> 00:24:57,534
within the Gambino family.
445
00:24:57,526 --> 00:25:00,626
Gabriel: John gets himself
fairly close to Neil,
446
00:25:00,626 --> 00:25:03,726
and Neil takes a strong
liking to John.
447
00:25:03,727 --> 00:25:05,027
Raab: Dellacroce liked him.
448
00:25:05,129 --> 00:25:07,459
He saw him as a chip
off his own block.
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00:25:07,563 --> 00:25:10,033
Respected the activity
that John did,
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00:25:10,030 --> 00:25:12,660
respected the loyalty
that John showed,
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00:25:12,730 --> 00:25:14,670
and respected the chutzpah
that John had.
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So they create a very,
very close bond.
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Papa: In 1976, Carlo Gambino,
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the revered boss
of the Gambino crime family
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and the namesake
of the family, passes away.
456
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So who is the successor?
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Gabriel: Gambino, rather
than taking Neil Dellacroce,
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who the whole Gambino family
respected and revered,
459
00:25:41,841 --> 00:25:45,441
he names his cousin,
Paul Castellano,
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00:25:45,442 --> 00:25:47,442
the next boss of the family.
461
00:25:47,443 --> 00:25:50,143
That just turned
everybody's stomach.
462
00:25:50,244 --> 00:25:53,454
Inside of the Gambino
crime family,
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00:25:53,446 --> 00:25:55,476
there were several factions.
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00:25:55,579 --> 00:25:59,449
John, being in
the Dellacroce faction,
465
00:25:59,448 --> 00:26:02,078
sort of looked at
Paul Castellano
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as a weak leader.
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00:26:03,648 --> 00:26:05,748
Raab: They thought
he was too remote.
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00:26:05,749 --> 00:26:07,079
He didn't like them.
469
00:26:07,150 --> 00:26:09,250
He never visited their clubs.
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And all he wanted
was their dough.
471
00:26:11,651 --> 00:26:13,891
Gotti and some of the people
that Gotti surrounded
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00:26:13,952 --> 00:26:17,252
himself with felt
that Paul Castellano
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was not the legitimate
head of the family.
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Gotti felt that
Aniello Dellacroce
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should have been
the rightful heir
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00:26:25,557 --> 00:26:27,357
to the Gambino crime family.
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00:26:27,457 --> 00:26:31,687
So that created this long
source of resentment
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between Gotti's people
and Castellano and his tribe.
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Schumacher: At the same time,
Gotti thinks that he can become
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the boss of the Gambino
crime family.
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Gabriel:
Dellacroce had that ability
482
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to keep the Gottis
of the world in check.
483
00:26:48,265 --> 00:26:49,555
He was the buffer.
484
00:26:49,565 --> 00:26:53,295
But when Dellacroce died,
then all bets are off.
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??
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Cardinale: John Gotti ...
he would make an impression
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on anybody that saw him.
488
00:27:07,071 --> 00:27:08,411
He had a certain aura that,
489
00:27:08,472 --> 00:27:10,812
if he walked in the room,
you would notice him.
490
00:27:10,871 --> 00:27:13,671
He was somebody
that would turn heads
491
00:27:13,673 --> 00:27:17,313
just because of the way
he carried himself.
492
00:27:17,375 --> 00:27:19,975
Had a very commanding presence.
Let's put it that way.
493
00:27:22,176 --> 00:27:27,076
Destefano:
Angelo Ruggiero was one of the core members of the crew
494
00:27:27,078 --> 00:27:29,378
that Gotti was a member of.
495
00:27:29,479 --> 00:27:33,079
Papa: Ruggiero was one
of Gotti's best friends.
496
00:27:33,180 --> 00:27:34,210
They grew up together.
497
00:27:34,281 --> 00:27:35,881
They were in gangs together.
498
00:27:35,981 --> 00:27:37,881
They were very, very close.
499
00:27:37,982 --> 00:27:41,882
A big crisis came in 1985.
500
00:27:41,983 --> 00:27:45,823
Cardinale: Angelo Ruggiero,
John Gotti's brother Gene,
501
00:27:45,884 --> 00:27:48,024
and a third
defendant were charged
502
00:27:48,086 --> 00:27:50,586
in a racketeering case
that involved drugs.
503
00:27:50,586 --> 00:27:54,186
The trouble that Ruggiero
got into was he had a big mouth.
504
00:27:54,187 --> 00:27:56,987
Papa: His nickname was
"Quack Quack,"
505
00:27:56,989 --> 00:27:59,489
because they say
he liked to talk a lot.
506
00:27:59,589 --> 00:28:04,489
One of the major pieces of
evidence against him was a tape.
507
00:28:04,591 --> 00:28:06,231
His house had been bugged.
508
00:28:06,292 --> 00:28:10,092
He's caught on tape speaking
about heroin buys,
509
00:28:10,193 --> 00:28:15,003
and this was forbidden
by Paul Castellano.
510
00:28:15,095 --> 00:28:17,095
The Gambino crime family,
at the time,
511
00:28:17,196 --> 00:28:20,096
was into a lot
of illegal activities,
512
00:28:20,197 --> 00:28:23,727
but he did not want
to be involved in drugs.
513
00:28:23,797 --> 00:28:26,627
A lot of people thought
the Mafia was involved
514
00:28:26,698 --> 00:28:27,998
in all kinds of drug deals,
515
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,400
and the fact is, historically,
they weren't
516
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,000
because it brought
on too much heat.
517
00:28:33,001 --> 00:28:35,241
Gabriel:
Castellano becomes irate.
518
00:28:35,302 --> 00:28:38,042
He's also now got to deal
with wise guys
519
00:28:38,103 --> 00:28:40,203
and bosses
from other families,
520
00:28:40,304 --> 00:28:42,644
who are now
putting pressure on him,
521
00:28:42,738 --> 00:28:47,008
basically saying, "Hey, your guy
got us in this mess."
522
00:28:47,106 --> 00:28:50,606
So now Castellano's got reason
to put pressure on.
523
00:28:50,607 --> 00:28:53,007
"I need to know
what's on those bugs.
524
00:28:53,008 --> 00:28:55,338
I hear you guys
were dealing babanya,
525
00:28:55,409 --> 00:28:58,409
and if that's true,
we've got a problem."
526
00:28:58,510 --> 00:29:03,310
Castellano wanted to get copies
of all of the tape recordings
527
00:29:03,312 --> 00:29:06,212
from Angelo Ruggiero's case.
528
00:29:06,313 --> 00:29:09,213
Gotti knew that
the Castellano tapes
529
00:29:09,214 --> 00:29:12,754
was a probable death
sentence for him,
530
00:29:12,814 --> 00:29:14,554
because it was his crew.
531
00:29:14,649 --> 00:29:18,219
This would give Castellano
an excuse to kill all of them.
532
00:29:18,317 --> 00:29:22,717
??
533
00:29:22,718 --> 00:29:26,218
Gabriel: The summer of '85,
534
00:29:26,220 --> 00:29:30,420
we got a bug
in Neil Dellacroce's house.
535
00:29:30,521 --> 00:29:34,021
Neil was sick.
He's dying of cancer.
536
00:29:34,122 --> 00:29:37,762
And John and Angelo
were going there frequently.
537
00:29:37,823 --> 00:29:41,433
One of the visits
we capture on tape.
538
00:30:01,132 --> 00:30:05,132
Dellacroce realized, "I can't
keep Castellano at bay forever."
539
00:30:05,133 --> 00:30:07,773
You're going to have to show him
what's on the tape.
540
00:30:31,776 --> 00:30:37,446
So it's clear that this issue
is very flammable.
541
00:30:37,545 --> 00:30:40,675
There was a lot of friction,
and, at some point,
542
00:30:40,745 --> 00:30:42,245
things were
going to come to a head.
543
00:30:42,246 --> 00:30:47,746
??
544
00:30:47,747 --> 00:30:53,177
Destefano:
December of 1985, Dellacroce passes away from cancer.
545
00:30:53,250 --> 00:30:59,050
That removed the one
sort of buffer
546
00:30:59,052 --> 00:31:00,552
that was keeping
the crime family
547
00:31:00,553 --> 00:31:04,993
from spinning out of control
and devolving into a war.
548
00:31:05,054 --> 00:31:06,754
Gabriel: John read
the tea leaves, knew his life
549
00:31:06,754 --> 00:31:09,794
was in jeopardy,
feared for his crew.
550
00:31:09,855 --> 00:31:12,985
Papa: He had to decide where
his loyalties were,
551
00:31:13,057 --> 00:31:16,587
and they certainly were not
with Paul Castellano.
552
00:31:16,692 --> 00:31:18,862
Destefano: Castellano,
if he wanted to,
553
00:31:18,858 --> 00:31:20,988
could have him killed
for the drug-dealing stuff
554
00:31:21,060 --> 00:31:22,260
that was going on.
555
00:31:22,260 --> 00:31:25,860
Gotti realized,
"I have to move quickly.
556
00:31:25,860 --> 00:31:27,960
Castellano's suspicious of me.
557
00:31:27,961 --> 00:31:31,701
He's suspicious of the crew
and the drug situation.
558
00:31:31,763 --> 00:31:32,803
I've got to do something."
559
00:31:32,863 --> 00:31:34,503
Papa: He figured he had to move
560
00:31:34,565 --> 00:31:38,865
to save his skin,
to save Angelo Ruggiero's skin.
561
00:31:38,965 --> 00:31:42,295
Gotti decides
that Castellano has to go.
562
00:31:44,068 --> 00:31:48,268
Schumacher:
I think he believed that he was the best person for that job.
563
00:31:48,269 --> 00:31:51,069
He really wanted to run
the Gambino crime family
564
00:31:51,171 --> 00:31:53,201
the way he thought
it should be run.
565
00:31:53,271 --> 00:31:56,111
Feldman: Gotti felt very
strongly that that was the time
566
00:31:56,172 --> 00:31:59,872
to make a move on
and to replace, I.E.,
567
00:31:59,873 --> 00:32:02,583
kill, Paul Castellano.
568
00:32:02,674 --> 00:32:06,084
Gotti was very, how should
I say, full of himself.
569
00:32:06,076 --> 00:32:09,606
He thought he was
the embodiment of the Mafia.
570
00:32:11,278 --> 00:32:14,108
Schumacher: If someone
is going to kill a Mafia boss,
571
00:32:14,179 --> 00:32:17,209
you have to get the permission
of the commission
572
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,280
in order to do that.
573
00:32:19,381 --> 00:32:21,281
In this case, there's a risk.
574
00:32:21,381 --> 00:32:27,781
??
575
00:32:29,917 --> 00:32:34,317
Once John Gotti makes a decision
he's got to kill his boss,
576
00:32:34,386 --> 00:32:35,986
that's no light decision.
577
00:32:36,086 --> 00:32:40,216
There are a lot of rules
in organized crime.
578
00:32:40,288 --> 00:32:44,218
The cardinal rule is,
you don't kill the boss.
579
00:32:44,289 --> 00:32:48,019
You don't take out the boss
of a crime family
580
00:32:48,090 --> 00:32:49,490
unless you're sanctioned.
581
00:32:49,591 --> 00:32:51,391
You have to get the permission
582
00:32:51,459 --> 00:32:53,289
of the commission
in order to do that.
583
00:32:53,292 --> 00:32:57,392
Because if you don't have that,
then everybody's fair game.
584
00:32:59,227 --> 00:33:02,027
Papa: John Gotti
was hatching a plot
585
00:33:02,095 --> 00:33:07,095
without the approval of
the other families in New York
586
00:33:07,097 --> 00:33:10,397
to bump off Paul Castellano.
587
00:33:10,465 --> 00:33:12,225
It was kill or be killed.
588
00:33:12,299 --> 00:33:14,799
Raab: Gotti showed some
actual brilliance,
589
00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:21,299
how he arranged, engineered
the murder of Paul Castellano.
590
00:33:21,402 --> 00:33:24,202
Destefano:
He needed certain alliances with certain people,
591
00:33:24,203 --> 00:33:29,143
so Angelo Ruggiero
approached Sammy Gravano,
592
00:33:29,205 --> 00:33:33,405
who was a well-respected
member of the crime family,
593
00:33:33,506 --> 00:33:36,006
a good earner
in the construction business,
594
00:33:36,006 --> 00:33:40,306
but had a reputation for being
a brutal guy, a killer.
595
00:33:40,409 --> 00:33:43,239
Feldman:
Sammy Gravano, or, as he was known in the family,
596
00:33:43,310 --> 00:33:45,910
Sammy "The Bull" Gravano,
was a tough guy.
597
00:33:45,910 --> 00:33:48,510
He was somebody who, later on,
598
00:33:48,611 --> 00:33:52,411
admitted to having no issues
at all killing people
599
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,210
if he thought that that was
something that needed
600
00:33:54,214 --> 00:33:56,314
to be done for the family.
601
00:33:56,414 --> 00:33:58,124
Schumacher: He was a kind
of a mastermind
602
00:33:58,215 --> 00:34:00,415
of how to make
these things happen
603
00:34:00,483 --> 00:34:02,323
so that they were
done efficiently,
604
00:34:02,317 --> 00:34:03,847
with minimal witnesses,
605
00:34:03,916 --> 00:34:05,816
so they could
all get away with it.
606
00:34:05,816 --> 00:34:08,916
Gotti sent his right-hand man,
Angelo, and he had told me ...
607
00:34:09,018 --> 00:34:12,748
he said, "Sammy," he says,
"We're going to take out Paul."
608
00:34:12,853 --> 00:34:14,923
Schumacher:
And Sammy Gravano was all in.
609
00:34:15,020 --> 00:34:20,860
??
610
00:34:20,922 --> 00:34:24,422
Feldman: The word had reached
John Gotti that Paul Castellano
611
00:34:24,524 --> 00:34:29,334
was going to have dinner at the
Sparks Steak House in Manhattan.
612
00:34:29,326 --> 00:34:31,016
And the decision was made
613
00:34:31,025 --> 00:34:35,325
that that would be
the perfect time to kill him.
614
00:34:37,762 --> 00:34:39,762
Papa: Here it is,
it's a winter night.
615
00:34:39,863 --> 00:34:42,933
It's a week or so
before Christmas.
616
00:34:43,029 --> 00:34:45,959
Gabriel: John and Sammy
had put a crew together
617
00:34:46,030 --> 00:34:49,530
and were very careful
in who they selected.
618
00:34:49,533 --> 00:34:53,773
Only about 11 people
involved in this hit.
619
00:34:53,867 --> 00:34:56,767
Raab: Almost nobody knew
who the target was
620
00:34:56,834 --> 00:34:59,244
until the very day
of the murder.
621
00:34:59,337 --> 00:35:01,437
Destefano: The plan
was well-choreographed.
622
00:35:01,537 --> 00:35:07,337
All the shooters gathered down
by Madison Square Park
623
00:35:07,339 --> 00:35:09,169
in Manhattan.
624
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:13,140
Raab: Gotti had this whole hit
crew dressed in the same way ...
625
00:35:13,141 --> 00:35:18,041
long raincoats
and wearing Russian fur hats.
626
00:35:18,143 --> 00:35:22,453
This, of course, was done to
make identification problematic
627
00:35:22,511 --> 00:35:24,511
later for eyewitnesses.
628
00:35:24,512 --> 00:35:25,942
They were given
their assignments,
629
00:35:26,045 --> 00:35:28,035
and they went uptown.
630
00:35:28,045 --> 00:35:30,945
They were told, "Kill them.
631
00:35:31,046 --> 00:35:33,176
And if it means
you have to die there,
632
00:35:33,248 --> 00:35:34,948
then die there with them.
633
00:35:35,048 --> 00:35:36,548
Die there in a gun battle
with the cops.
634
00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:38,680
Do not back off of this hit."
635
00:35:41,050 --> 00:35:42,550
Destefano:
Close in time to this,
636
00:35:42,552 --> 00:35:45,252
Castellano was coming in
from Staten Island,
637
00:35:45,352 --> 00:35:47,392
visiting his lawyer,
638
00:35:47,453 --> 00:35:50,393
and then had a dinner date
at sparks restaurant.
639
00:35:50,454 --> 00:35:54,894
Paul Castellano left his
attorney's office in Downtown
640
00:35:54,955 --> 00:35:56,455
or Midtown Manhattan.
641
00:35:56,523 --> 00:35:58,893
Gabriel: Tommy Bilotti,
who's Paul's underboss ...
642
00:35:58,956 --> 00:36:02,386
he's driving Paul
in Paul's town car.
643
00:36:02,458 --> 00:36:04,658
Raab:
They didn't have a bodyguard.
644
00:36:04,659 --> 00:36:06,559
Neither was armed.
645
00:36:06,660 --> 00:36:09,860
He was just so certain
of his security
646
00:36:09,860 --> 00:36:12,260
that no one
would dare oppose him.
647
00:36:12,362 --> 00:36:14,662
And that shows you
his fatal mistake.
648
00:36:16,663 --> 00:36:19,473
Destefano: The streets were
packed with a lot of people,
649
00:36:19,531 --> 00:36:22,301
which was another thing
the planners figured,
650
00:36:22,365 --> 00:36:24,695
that may be easy to blend in.
651
00:36:24,799 --> 00:36:27,069
Gabriel: So, you had
four primary shooters
652
00:36:27,066 --> 00:36:29,266
that were going
to attack the car,
653
00:36:29,368 --> 00:36:31,568
and then you had shooters
strategically placed
654
00:36:31,669 --> 00:36:33,469
around corners in case
655
00:36:33,569 --> 00:36:35,799
they tried to get away
or whatever.
656
00:36:35,903 --> 00:36:37,473
[Walkie-talkie chirps]
657
00:36:37,537 --> 00:36:39,907
Feldman: Gotti and
Sammy "The Bull" Gravano
658
00:36:39,971 --> 00:36:45,011
were witnessing this from a car
just across the street.
659
00:36:45,072 --> 00:36:49,012
Gabriel:
Sammy's got a gun, so he's kind of a backup shooter.
660
00:36:49,073 --> 00:36:52,313
And they're positioned
kind of as the lookouts
661
00:36:52,376 --> 00:36:54,476
to give the shooters a heads-up
662
00:36:54,544 --> 00:36:58,114
if they were to see
Paul coming down.
663
00:36:58,178 --> 00:37:01,208
Sammy's sitting there
with a walkie-talkie.
664
00:37:01,279 --> 00:37:05,579
You know, suddenly,
they notice Paul's car
665
00:37:05,580 --> 00:37:09,580
pulling up right past them
and stopping at the light.
666
00:37:09,682 --> 00:37:11,382
They're just praying
Paul doesn't look over,
667
00:37:11,482 --> 00:37:14,382
because he would
recognize them in a heartbeat.
668
00:37:14,483 --> 00:37:17,553
Gravano: And I said, "John,
they're right next to us."
669
00:37:17,552 --> 00:37:19,792
And I told John,
"If he turns in our direction,
670
00:37:19,786 --> 00:37:21,916
I'm going to start shooting
right here and now."
671
00:37:24,587 --> 00:37:27,817
Gabriel: Light changes, and
Sammy radios to the shooters,
672
00:37:27,921 --> 00:37:29,621
"Hey, they're pulling up
right now.
673
00:37:29,689 --> 00:37:31,589
So everybody get ready."
674
00:37:31,690 --> 00:37:34,990
Feldman: So, when
Paul Castellano and his driver
675
00:37:34,990 --> 00:37:38,490
showed up at the
Sparks Steak House in Manhattan,
676
00:37:38,592 --> 00:37:42,592
they got out of the car, and ...
677
00:37:42,594 --> 00:37:46,594
as soon as those doors opened,
678
00:37:46,595 --> 00:37:49,595
Gotti's shooters
were right on the scene.
679
00:37:49,696 --> 00:37:53,826
Papa: Before you know it,
numerous shots are fired.
680
00:37:56,498 --> 00:37:59,728
And these two men
were dead in the street.
681
00:37:59,832 --> 00:38:05,942
??
682
00:38:06,001 --> 00:38:08,941
Gabriel: It went off as planned.
683
00:38:09,002 --> 00:38:10,572
Once they confirm
that they were dead,
684
00:38:10,570 --> 00:38:15,410
these guys calmly walked into
the crowd, disappeared.
685
00:38:15,505 --> 00:38:17,305
According to Gravano,
686
00:38:17,406 --> 00:38:20,236
he and John watched
the shooting take place
687
00:38:20,307 --> 00:38:22,037
and then drove by it
688
00:38:22,106 --> 00:38:26,006
and saw that Bilotti
and Castellano were shot
689
00:38:26,108 --> 00:38:27,938
and then drove away.
690
00:38:31,610 --> 00:38:34,210
Raab: They both died
at the scene. No chance.
691
00:38:34,311 --> 00:38:37,111
They never even bothered
taking them to a hospital.
692
00:38:37,213 --> 00:38:39,213
They went right to the morgue.
693
00:38:39,313 --> 00:38:41,613
Destefano: Of course,
it's pandemonium on the street.
694
00:38:41,714 --> 00:38:43,224
The shooting.
There's two bodies.
695
00:38:43,314 --> 00:38:46,724
On the curb is Castellano,
who was clenching his gloves
696
00:38:46,716 --> 00:38:51,616
in his hand, mouth open,
blood all over the place.
697
00:38:51,618 --> 00:38:53,218
Feldman: The killing
of Paul Castellano
698
00:38:53,218 --> 00:38:55,218
was not only a big deal
in the Mafia world,
699
00:38:55,319 --> 00:38:57,849
it was a big deal
in the general public.
700
00:38:57,919 --> 00:39:03,419
This was an execution
in the middle of New York city.
701
00:39:03,421 --> 00:39:05,661
Papa: What happened?
Why did this happen?
702
00:39:05,723 --> 00:39:09,523
What was going on?
Who did this?
703
00:39:09,591 --> 00:39:15,961
A mob boss taken out in broad
daylight in Midtown Manhattan,
704
00:39:16,025 --> 00:39:18,425
and, basically,
nobody saw anything.
705
00:39:18,427 --> 00:39:19,827
Cardinale: It was huge.
706
00:39:19,828 --> 00:39:21,828
Every single newspaper
in New York
707
00:39:21,828 --> 00:39:24,728
had it on the front page.
708
00:39:24,829 --> 00:39:28,229
Papa: To the general public,
this was scary.
709
00:39:28,330 --> 00:39:29,860
It was titillating.
710
00:39:29,930 --> 00:39:32,070
It was real tabloid fodder.
711
00:39:32,131 --> 00:39:35,371
And New Yorkers
really eat that up.
712
00:39:36,967 --> 00:39:38,327
Destefano: Everybody's figuring,
713
00:39:38,434 --> 00:39:42,174
"Okay, are we going to see
a war on the streets now?
714
00:39:42,235 --> 00:39:44,035
What's going on?"
715
00:39:44,135 --> 00:39:46,365
This is a major, major hit.
716
00:39:48,170 --> 00:39:51,340
Papa: This moment changed
the trajectory for John Gotti.
717
00:39:51,339 --> 00:39:54,439
The Paul Castellano killing
really catapulted
718
00:39:54,439 --> 00:39:56,869
John Gotti into the forefront.
719
00:39:56,973 --> 00:39:58,613
Destefano: Gotti, overnight,
720
00:39:58,608 --> 00:40:03,838
became the premier gangster
in the Gambino family.
721
00:40:03,843 --> 00:40:07,943
Papa: This now becomes
this power vacuum
722
00:40:07,943 --> 00:40:11,883
in the most powerful
crime family in New York.
723
00:40:11,944 --> 00:40:17,984
And John Gotti was stepping into
that void and taking control.
724
00:40:18,047 --> 00:40:22,177
Destefano:
There was a meeting of the captains in the crime family,
725
00:40:22,249 --> 00:40:24,949
and Gotti was voted in.
726
00:40:24,949 --> 00:40:28,149
Raab: So, here he is,
in his 40s ... he's now the head
727
00:40:28,252 --> 00:40:31,252
of the most powerful
crime family in America.
728
00:40:31,253 --> 00:40:35,553
??
729
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Feldman: Once John Gotti
becomes the head,
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what emerges is
a very unprecedented
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and very public head
of a mob family.
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00:40:45,757 --> 00:40:48,457
Schumacher: Ultimately, Gravano
becomes Gotti's underboss,
733
00:40:48,558 --> 00:40:50,758
running a lot of
the day-to-day operations
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of the Gambino crime family.
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00:40:52,860 --> 00:40:56,860
Raab: John Gotti was truly
a wolf in sheep's clothing.
736
00:40:59,161 --> 00:41:02,661
Destefano:
The press romanticized him, glorified him.
737
00:41:02,663 --> 00:41:07,703
John Gotti was the number-one
target for the government.
738
00:41:07,765 --> 00:41:10,565
Man: John Gotti stands out
as the most powerful leader
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00:41:10,633 --> 00:41:12,173
in organized crime.
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00:41:12,166 --> 00:41:14,666
Schumacher: In order
to get recordings,
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they needed to be inside
the Ravenite Social Club.
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00:41:17,769 --> 00:41:21,999
To try to get him to
incriminate himself, basically.
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Gabriel: We got to find a way
to put him in jail.
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00:41:28,273 --> 00:41:30,643
Up until Paul Castellano's
brutal murder,
745
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,170
John Gotti was barely on
federal investigators' radar.
746
00:41:34,275 --> 00:41:36,275
But after he carried out
the ruthless hit
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00:41:36,375 --> 00:41:39,175
and took the throne
as the Gambino's godfather,
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00:41:39,276 --> 00:41:41,676
Gotti became
public enemy number one.
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00:41:41,677 --> 00:41:45,707
Almost instantly, he transformed
into the Dapper Don,
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00:41:45,778 --> 00:41:47,908
running a violent
criminal enterprise,
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00:41:48,012 --> 00:41:50,712
all while wearing
a suit and a smile.
752
00:41:50,780 --> 00:41:52,880
In the end, it would
take a complex
753
00:41:52,881 --> 00:41:54,581
and lengthy FBI operation
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00:41:54,649 --> 00:41:58,679
to finally stop him,
in part 2 of "John Gotti."
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I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
Thanks for watching.
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00:42:01,784 --> 00:42:03,124
Good night.
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