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Bianchi: There may have been
another killing or two.
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[Door creaks]
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It's something that happened,
but it's not there all the time.
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[Woman screams]
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It's just like a bad dream.
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And no disrespect for the girls,
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dead people tell no tales.
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[Woman screaming]
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??
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Welcome to "Very Scary People."
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I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
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For four months
in 1977 and 1978,
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Los Angeles was terrorized by
a series of sadistic killings.
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The victims, all women,
were tortured,
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then humiliated in death
as their nude bodies
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were displayed on hillsides.
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The press dubbed the murders
the Hillside Stranglings.
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In February 1978,
the killings suddenly stopped.
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1,200 miles away
in Bellingham, Washington,
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a young father
named Kenneth Bianchi
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was charged with the murders
of two college students.
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The women were strangled.
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Could Bianchi be connected
to the killings in Los Angeles?
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This is Part 2 of
"The Hillside Stranglers."
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??
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Davis: Dolores Cepeda
and Sonja Johnson,
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12 and 14-year old girls,
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spent the day shopping
in East L.A.
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Renner: They caught the bus
to come back,
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and what they didn't know
is that they were being hunted.
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They were motioned over
to this car by these two guys.
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One of them badges them
and he says,
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"You shouldn't be out here.
It's not safe.
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We're from the police.
We'll take you home."
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So they get in the car.
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Dolores and Sonja weren't in
the habit of not returning home,
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and so when they didn't show up,
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their families
are really concerned.
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Everyone's looking for
these two missing girls,
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and of course,
as the hours tick by
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and then a couple
of days roll by,
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the families may not know it,
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but the police know that the
outcome's likely not to be good.
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??
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De Reyes:
A 9-year-old boy was rummaging
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through a trash dump
near Dodger Stadium.
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Renner:
He walks up to what he thinks are mannequins, and they're not.
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It's Dolores and Sonja.
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They were victims
number four and number five.
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??
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Davis: The body of
Kristina Weckler was found.
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She was an art student.
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She had a huge future
in front of her.
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Renner:
There were marks on her arms
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that were consistent
with needle marks.
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Davis: She was injected
with a substance
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usually used to clean windows,
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which caused her to go
into violent convulsions.
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She was tortured.
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She was gassed before
she was finally killed.
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??
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It became clear that there was
a serial killer on the loose.
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Meredith:
They had been strangled.
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Martin: Some had been
sexually assaulted.
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Their bodies were dumped
largely in public places.
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Davis:
Who will be the next victim? Where will they be found?
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Will it be someone I know?
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News people came up
with a scary moniker,
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the Hillside Strangler.
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??
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Davis: Serial killers are
almost always one figure.
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One thing that threw
all of us off is,
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a pair of serial killers
is almost unheard of.
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A theory circulated
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that the killers
might be in law enforcement.
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Martin: There was statements
badges had been flashed.
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They were either imposters
posing as police officers,
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or they were police officers.
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[Sirens wail]
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I mean the fear, the panic in
the community was tremendous.
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We wound up joining with
the L.A. Sheriff's Department
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and the Los Angeles
Police Department
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to form a task force.
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We were defenseless.
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We were clueless,
trying to solve this.
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I mean, we went through
10 murders and had no leads.
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??
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One of the interesting things
that occurred
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after the last victim
was found ...
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the murders stopped.
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They completely stopped.
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We don't have closure.
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??
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McEachran:
Bellingham was very concerned about these two young women,
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Karen Mandic, Diane Wilder,
who were missing.
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This really had a note to it
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that really concerned
the police.
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Reporter: The bodies of
Karen Mandic and Diane Wilder
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were found stuffed in the
back seat of Ms. Mandic's car.
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McEachran: There were large
ligature marks on the necks
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of both of the girls,
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and which should indicate
they were strangled.
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And it was something
the police department
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put all of their energy
to solve.
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Reporter: The first hint of
their disappearance
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came late Thursday, when
Karen Mandic failed to return
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to the local Fred Meyer
from her dinner break.
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Which is a large
department food store.
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Davis:
Karen asked her manager if she could take a long dinner break,
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because she had
a job opportunity that came up.
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McEachran:
She had a security job.
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Karen found out about
this security job
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from a former
Fred Meyer's employee.
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??
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McEachran: There was a note
there that indicated
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"Ken B. Called."
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Investigators had called
the security company
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and found out a man by the name
of Kenneth Bianchi worked there.
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He had also previously
worked at Fred Meyer.
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McEachran: They also found
a pubic hair when they lifted
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Diane Wilder's body
out of the car
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that matched microscopically
the characteristics
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of pubic hair from Mr. Bianchi.
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I charged Kenneth Bianchi with
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murder in the first degree,
two counts.
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??
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Burkhalter: Then last week,
Kenneth Bianchi was arrested
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in Bellingham, Washington,
and named as a prime suspect
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in the strangulation murders
of two co-eds there.
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The Hillside Strangler cases
we had heard about in the media,
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but it was not something
at least
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that I specifically
was following.
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It was in California,
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but our police chief in
Bellingham was from Los Angeles,
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and he was familiar with
the Hillside Strangler cases.
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He told me,
"I think this looks like it,
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has a lot of the connections
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that we have seen,
as far as the manner of death."
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Burkhalter:
The young women had been strangled, the car abandoned.
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McEachran:
And he started checking on Bianchi and realized
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he had been in California.
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He had lived in so-called
Strangler country,
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the Glendale area
of San Fernando valley.
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Burkhalter: A number of curious
coincidences came to light.
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Among them, Bianchi had,
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during the period
of the Los Angeles murders,
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lived in
a Glendale apartment building
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where one Hillside Strangler
victim also lived,
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across the street
from where another victim lived.
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??
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McEachran:
We went into his background,
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and we sent officers immediately
out to Rochester, New York,
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where he was from.
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To say that Kenneth Bianchi
had a troubled childhood
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is putting it mildly.
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Bianchi's biological mother
was a sex worker.
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Broberg:
His birth mother is very young when she gives birth to him.
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She very quickly realizes
she can't take care of Kenneth,
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and then moves
through the adoption,
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and the Bianchis
come into the situation.
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The Bianchis then have
their own interesting dynamic.
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Kenneth's mother is
the domineering personality.
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The father plays
a very submissive role.
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His mother was overprotective.
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When we looked at some of
the records from schools
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that Bianchi attended,
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you can see references
made to chronic lying.
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He lied when there was
no good reason to lie.
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Schlesinger: When Bianchi
was 12, he got in trouble
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for pulling down
a young girl's pants.
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All young boys have sexual
interests at 12-13 years old,
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but he acted on it.
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Most young boys don't do that.
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Bianchi did do that.
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Notwithstanding Bianchi
being fairly bright,
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he couldn't get along
with the teachers.
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He is an individual who wants
to be dominant and in control,
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and he wants to see
other people as submissive ...
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submissive to him.
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On the surface, though,
Bianchi could appear normal.
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Schlesinger: He's a handsome
guy. He's well-spoken.
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Davis: As a teen,
he even dated quite a bit.
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He met a girl and married her
right out of high school.
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She left him almost immediately.
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There's little information
about her reason for leaving.
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Either way, Bianchi
thought of the future
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and had a conventional view
of what he wanted to do.
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Schlesinger: Bianchi wanted
to be in authority.
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He wanted a job in authority,
a police officer.
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Bianchi never made the cut
to join the force,
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so he did the next best thing.
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He became a security guard.
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McEachran: And his fellow
employees and coworkers
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thought he was a nice guy.
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Schlesinger:
He's smooth and manipulative,
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and so he has a good ability
to put people at ease.
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And so the disturbance
is masked and covered up.
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That was, until he was
caught stealing
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from the stores
he was hired to protect,
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so he decided to make a change.
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He decided, "Hey,
I'm going to go out to L.A.
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I'm going to change my life,
see my cousin."
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And sure enough,
that's what he did.
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He moved out to
Glendale, California,
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and moved in with Angelo Buono,
who was his role model.
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And that's when
the real trouble began.
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??
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Kenneth Bianchi told detectives
he had nothing to do
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with the Hillside Stranglings
down in Los Angeles,
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let alone the murders
of Diane Wilder
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and Karen Mandic
up in Washington.
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De Reyes:
His girlfriend, Kelli Boyd, was raising their infant son
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and didn't know what to think.
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And he begins this process
of writing to her, saying,
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"It's not true."
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De Reyes: "It takes a real
maniac to do what was done.
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God forgive him."
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Broberg: And it continued on,
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his ongoing belief
that he was innocent.
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Davis: As L.A. detectives
continued to investigate
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Bianchi for
the Hillside Stranglings,
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the evidence in the Washington
murders continued to mount.
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Once we reached a point where
I felt all the evidence showed
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clearly that Bianchi had killed
both of these young women,
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I filed for the death penalty,
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and I'd notified
the defense attorney.
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The same day,
he claimed that Mr. Bianchi
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was a multiple personality.
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Schulman:
He is in custody in Washington,
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where he pleaded innocent
by reason of insanity
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to two counts of murder.
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Allnate:
Bianchi was examined by a series of court-appointed psychiatrists
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who recorded their sessions
on video tape.
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I just can't imagine
killing anybody...
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??
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Taking life.
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Allnate: Two of the doctors
reported that Bianchi
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suffered from multiple
or split personalities.
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They said the murders
were committed
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by one of
the hidden personalities
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who called himself Steve Walker,
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a personality
which allegedly surfaced
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when Bianchi was hypnotized.
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Psychiatrist: Okay,
I'm gonna start counting...
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25, 26, 27...
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And now I wanna
talk to Steve.
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What's your name?
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Steve.
250
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What's
your last name?
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You,
you're the [bleep]
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that's been trying
to get me to leave him.
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Broberg: So when Steve,
one of his personalities,
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comes out, he confesses
to all sorts
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of criminal type of behavior.
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I [bleep] killed those broads,
you know, to smart him up,
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to show him that he couldn't
push me [bleep] around.
258
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Here in Bellingham?
259
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That's right.
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Strangled 'em, it's [bleep]
plain as that.
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Strangled them with a [bleep]
cord, nothing to it.
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The name Stephen Walker
was a name that interested us.
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We had taken a briefcase
when Mr. Bianchi was arrested,
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and in the briefcase,
there were papers showing
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that he had a degree
in psychology
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and that he had gone
to Pepperdine.
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We checked with Pepperdine,
and he was not a student.
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But we had transcripts
for Thomas Stephen Walker,
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and he had graduated
from Pepperdine.
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He had a degree in psychology.
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And he had responded
to an advertisement in the paper
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in Los Angeles
in which a psychologist
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was asking to have someone
join his practice
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and invited the people
to send in transcripts.
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The so-called psychologist
who wanted the transcripts
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was Kenneth Bianchi.
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He was pretending
to be a psychologist,
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and that's where Walker
sent his transcripts.
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McEachran:
Bianchi changed the names
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and put "Kenneth Bianchi"
in the names on the transcripts
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and started a scam
psychological business.
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Psychiatrist:
Up here in Bellingham,
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what did Steve do
up here?
284
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Okay, Steve up here lured
and killed the two girls.
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We felt that the interviews
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really were perpetuating
this scam that Mr. Bianchi
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was trying to present.
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In one session,
the psychologist urges Bianchi
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to engage his alter ego
in a dialogue.
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00:14:49,403 --> 00:14:51,403
You keep saying
I killed those girls.
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I didn't, you did.
292
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It was me.
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I'm the one that's
getting the blame.
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00:14:58,505 --> 00:15:03,005
??
295
00:15:03,007 --> 00:15:05,307
You just don't understand,
you know,
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00:15:05,307 --> 00:15:09,007
what happens to me
is gonna happen to you.
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00:15:11,109 --> 00:15:13,009
Schlesinger:
They also brought in Dr. Orne,
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who is really
an expert on hypnosis
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and
dissociative identity disorder.
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McEachran: Dr. Orne told me,
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00:15:20,211 --> 00:15:21,911
"Look, I've looked
at the video tapes.
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I'll tell you what, I think
he's simulating hypnosis."
303
00:15:25,212 --> 00:15:28,112
Schlesinger: The psychologist
suggested to Bianchi
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that most people that have
multiple personality disorders
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00:15:31,014 --> 00:15:33,414
have more than one personality.
306
00:15:33,514 --> 00:15:36,614
And lo and behold,
there's a new personality
307
00:15:36,615 --> 00:15:38,605
that Bianchi comes out with.
308
00:15:38,615 --> 00:15:40,115
Dr. Allison:
Come on, Billy.
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00:15:40,216 --> 00:15:42,016
Come on, Billy.
310
00:15:42,117 --> 00:15:44,047
Now is not the time
to be shy.
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00:15:44,117 --> 00:15:46,017
Dr. Allison,
nice to meet you.
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00:15:46,117 --> 00:15:48,217
You have not seen me before,
have you?
313
00:15:48,218 --> 00:15:49,348
No, sir.
314
00:15:49,418 --> 00:15:52,818
Right from the jump,
it was a bad performance.
315
00:15:52,918 --> 00:15:58,018
As I count backwards from
5 to 1, you'll be awake.
316
00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,920
Anyone who knows anything about
multiple personality disorder,
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00:16:02,021 --> 00:16:04,421
this is just
a cheap acting job.
318
00:16:04,422 --> 00:16:07,122
And it really underlined
the fact that this was a scam,
319
00:16:07,123 --> 00:16:11,063
and we thought we'd be able
to wrestle him down in a trial.
320
00:16:11,124 --> 00:16:15,034
But investigators were working
hard to try to tie him
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00:16:15,125 --> 00:16:18,425
to the Hillside Stranglings
in L.A.
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00:16:18,426 --> 00:16:21,826
They were asking about
these cases in California,
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00:16:21,826 --> 00:16:23,626
and we had made enough
of a connection there
324
00:16:23,627 --> 00:16:27,827
that I'm sure he realized
that was a real problem for him.
325
00:16:27,827 --> 00:16:30,357
This is probably
the major break in the case.
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Let's go on listing
the kinds of activities
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Steve was involved in,
in Los Angeles.
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The killings
of the girls.
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00:16:37,230 --> 00:16:45,230
The killings of the girls to get
not only sexual gratification,
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but also it gave
a personal sense
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00:16:48,233 --> 00:16:55,673
of stimulation
or excitement.
332
00:16:55,768 --> 00:17:05,268
??
333
00:17:05,337 --> 00:17:07,667
He was trying to use
a multiple personality
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00:17:07,771 --> 00:17:11,971
as a defense to anything
that would come up there also.
335
00:17:12,039 --> 00:17:14,139
He said to detectives,
"I'll tell you what.
336
00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:15,540
I'll turn state's witness,
337
00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,940
and I'll tell you
who the other strangler was.
338
00:17:17,940 --> 00:17:22,540
It was my cousin, Angelo Buono."
339
00:17:22,542 --> 00:17:24,342
Psychiatrist: Why did
Angelo kill any girls?
340
00:17:24,342 --> 00:17:26,682
What did he have
against them?
341
00:17:26,742 --> 00:17:30,542
I dunno, man.
You know, he just...
342
00:17:30,644 --> 00:17:33,844
He was just an easy guy to get
with the program, you know?
343
00:17:33,844 --> 00:17:37,354
I gave him the idea, and he
went with it all the way.
344
00:17:37,446 --> 00:17:39,346
Did you watch him
kill them all?
345
00:17:39,447 --> 00:17:41,547
You bet I did,
strangled them all.
346
00:17:41,647 --> 00:17:43,477
It's the easiest way
to go.
347
00:17:43,547 --> 00:17:47,377
He was giving a description
of these homicides and described
348
00:17:47,448 --> 00:17:51,678
how he and Angelo had done
this together in California.
349
00:17:51,783 --> 00:17:53,253
Who killed who?
350
00:17:53,250 --> 00:17:54,780
I killed
the first broad.
351
00:17:54,849 --> 00:17:57,049
Who was she?
352
00:17:57,051 --> 00:17:59,351
Some black broad,
I don't remember her name.
353
00:17:59,451 --> 00:18:00,851
How did you happen
to pick her up?
354
00:18:00,951 --> 00:18:02,891
She was a hooker.
355
00:18:02,951 --> 00:18:04,651
Okay, who killed
the second one?
356
00:18:04,653 --> 00:18:06,053
Angelo.
Were you with him?
357
00:18:06,153 --> 00:18:08,253
He did a nice job
doing it, too.
358
00:18:08,353 --> 00:18:10,693
Where did you
kill her?
359
00:18:10,787 --> 00:18:13,357
Right at
Angelo's house.
360
00:18:13,455 --> 00:18:18,255
I would have to say that
certainly we are looking at him.
361
00:18:18,256 --> 00:18:22,356
He's had a relationship
with Mr. Bianchi.
362
00:18:22,457 --> 00:18:26,057
Angelo, now he's
my kind of person.
363
00:18:26,158 --> 00:18:29,858
He doesn't care a [bleep]
about life, it's great.
364
00:18:29,858 --> 00:18:32,688
Other people's life.
365
00:18:32,793 --> 00:18:35,063
Has he killed
anybody?
366
00:18:35,060 --> 00:18:39,460
Yup, he has.
How many?
367
00:18:39,561 --> 00:18:42,861
Five girls.
368
00:18:42,961 --> 00:18:44,701
What a team we were.
369
00:18:44,796 --> 00:18:49,556
??
370
00:18:49,664 --> 00:18:51,364
Komo:
27-year-old Kenneth Bianchi,
371
00:18:51,365 --> 00:18:53,495
charged with two homicides
here in Bellingham,
372
00:18:53,565 --> 00:18:55,365
pleaded guilty
to the Bellingham charges
373
00:18:55,465 --> 00:18:58,465
and admitted guilt
to the Los Angeles slayings.
374
00:18:58,466 --> 00:19:01,766
When he's getting sentenced,
he cries to everybody.
375
00:19:01,766 --> 00:19:04,296
He says how deeply sorry he is.
376
00:19:04,368 --> 00:19:08,598
Bianchi: To even begin to try
and live with myself,
377
00:19:08,702 --> 00:19:11,572
I have to take responsibility
for what I've done.
378
00:19:11,570 --> 00:19:14,470
??
379
00:19:14,470 --> 00:19:19,010
And I have to do everything
I can to get Angelo Buono.
380
00:19:19,072 --> 00:19:20,572
It's ridiculous.
381
00:19:20,672 --> 00:19:24,372
He's not sorry about anything,
other than he got caught.
382
00:19:24,373 --> 00:19:29,583
??
383
00:19:33,509 --> 00:19:34,909
Komo: Whatcom County prosecutor
Dave McEachran
384
00:19:34,975 --> 00:19:38,765
asked for life sentences
to be served consecutively.
385
00:19:38,775 --> 00:19:41,505
Bianchi says he will waive
extradition to California
386
00:19:41,578 --> 00:19:44,008
and travel down there to testify
against his cousin,
387
00:19:44,078 --> 00:19:47,178
Angelo Buono, whom Bianchi says
was an accomplice
388
00:19:47,179 --> 00:19:48,509
in a series of killings
389
00:19:48,579 --> 00:19:52,209
known as the Los Angeles
Hillside Stranglings.
390
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,180
Davis: As soon as
the name Angelo Buono
391
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,810
was tied to the case,
392
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,720
I and my colleagues found out
where he lived, where he worked.
393
00:19:59,815 --> 00:20:03,115
His upholstery shop was
right next door to his house.
394
00:20:03,183 --> 00:20:05,423
Allegedly, people such as
Frank Sinatra
395
00:20:05,483 --> 00:20:07,483
were his customers.
396
00:20:07,584 --> 00:20:10,784
He's an obsessive compulsive
neat freak.
397
00:20:10,784 --> 00:20:14,224
He cleans things that you could
use as an operating table.
398
00:20:14,286 --> 00:20:17,216
He cleans them again.
399
00:20:17,287 --> 00:20:19,917
Davis: Bianchi was
an unreliable witness.
400
00:20:19,986 --> 00:20:21,286
So there was a period of time
401
00:20:21,287 --> 00:20:24,487
there when Buono
is loose on the streets.
402
00:20:24,488 --> 00:20:26,818
He hasn't been arrested yet.
403
00:20:26,888 --> 00:20:29,818
Now as a journalist,
I was going to find out
404
00:20:29,889 --> 00:20:32,489
everything I could
about Angelo Buono.
405
00:20:32,591 --> 00:20:35,891
??
406
00:20:35,990 --> 00:20:40,490
Angelo Buono was born
in Rochester, New York, in 1934.
407
00:20:40,592 --> 00:20:44,992
Schlesinger:
Buono had a very, very troubled relationship with his mother.
408
00:20:45,094 --> 00:20:48,094
Evidently, she was running
around on his father,
409
00:20:48,094 --> 00:20:49,634
which led to the divorce.
410
00:20:49,728 --> 00:20:51,598
That, I really think
affected him,
411
00:20:51,695 --> 00:20:54,895
because she stepped
out of her mother role
412
00:20:54,995 --> 00:20:59,995
and acted out sexually,
at least in Buono's mind.
413
00:21:00,097 --> 00:21:04,397
He had a hatred for women
that showed up again and again.
414
00:21:04,498 --> 00:21:08,198
Angelo is known to
say many times,
415
00:21:08,199 --> 00:21:11,929
"Some women
just deserve to die."
416
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,630
Schlesinger:
When Buono was an adolescent,
417
00:21:13,734 --> 00:21:17,444
he was telling other guys
that he was sodomizing girls
418
00:21:17,502 --> 00:21:19,402
and raping girls
and this sort of thing.
419
00:21:19,502 --> 00:21:21,002
Whether or not it's true,
it's hard to know,
420
00:21:21,002 --> 00:21:24,542
but just the fact that Buono
is talking like that,
421
00:21:24,603 --> 00:21:29,313
it's really beyond what
average teenage boys talk about,
422
00:21:29,405 --> 00:21:32,035
so you see deviancy emerging.
423
00:21:32,105 --> 00:21:36,935
Buono was acting out
in a typical antisocial way
424
00:21:37,006 --> 00:21:41,836
as a young person ...
left school, gets arrested,
425
00:21:41,907 --> 00:21:45,707
steals,
all these sorts of things.
426
00:21:45,709 --> 00:21:49,339
At 21, Angelo impregnates
a 17-year-old girl,
427
00:21:49,410 --> 00:21:51,210
and she becomes his first wife.
428
00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:56,610
He is awful to her, as he will
be to his subsequent wives.
429
00:21:56,712 --> 00:21:59,512
He fathers at least
eight children,
430
00:21:59,613 --> 00:22:03,113
never takes responsibility
for any of them,
431
00:22:03,113 --> 00:22:04,853
and that's just his life.
432
00:22:04,913 --> 00:22:06,813
That's just how he goes.
433
00:22:06,813 --> 00:22:08,613
Buono ended up marrying
four times
434
00:22:08,615 --> 00:22:11,805
and had numerous
other relationships.
435
00:22:11,814 --> 00:22:16,654
All of the women he married,
he abused physically, verbally.
436
00:22:16,750 --> 00:22:20,450
They also made the accusation
that he had abused
437
00:22:20,518 --> 00:22:23,248
one of his stepdaughters
and that he said,
438
00:22:23,319 --> 00:22:25,919
"Well, she needs to be
broken in."
439
00:22:26,018 --> 00:22:29,748
I wouldn't call him
a charismatic person,
440
00:22:29,853 --> 00:22:33,423
although apparently
a lot of young women
441
00:22:33,521 --> 00:22:36,421
found him attractive.
442
00:22:36,422 --> 00:22:39,362
He was the kind of guy
that carried a big wad
443
00:22:39,423 --> 00:22:44,023
of $100 bills
and liked to impress people.
444
00:22:44,023 --> 00:22:46,323
One of the characteristics
of a psychopath
445
00:22:46,425 --> 00:22:48,915
is other people
want to be around them.
446
00:22:49,024 --> 00:22:51,824
They know how to ingratiate
themselves with people,
447
00:22:51,825 --> 00:22:57,225
and they can be attractive
to some types of individuals.
448
00:22:57,227 --> 00:22:59,857
Among the people who came
to admire Buono was his cousin,
449
00:22:59,927 --> 00:23:04,857
Ken Bianchi, who came out
to California to live with him.
450
00:23:04,928 --> 00:23:06,428
Renner:
When Ken arrived in L.A.,
451
00:23:06,530 --> 00:23:11,930
he had the Hollywood vision
of Los Angeles in his head,
452
00:23:12,030 --> 00:23:14,630
and he just seemed to be
leading a normal life.
453
00:23:14,632 --> 00:23:17,772
He found a girlfriend.
She got pregnant.
454
00:23:17,831 --> 00:23:19,531
He seemed to be delighted,
really,
455
00:23:19,633 --> 00:23:21,933
about the prospect
of being a father.
456
00:23:21,933 --> 00:23:27,873
And so on the surface, he seemed
to be a perfectly normal guy
457
00:23:27,934 --> 00:23:31,744
in his 20s with
a bright future ahead of him.
458
00:23:31,736 --> 00:23:33,666
But the real Kenneth Bianchi
459
00:23:33,769 --> 00:23:36,539
was someone completely different
from the guy
460
00:23:36,637 --> 00:23:40,237
that he presented himself
to be in Los Angeles.
461
00:23:40,238 --> 00:23:42,038
When Bianchi gets to L.A.,
462
00:23:42,139 --> 00:23:46,869
we know he establishes this
kind of fake psychology service.
463
00:23:46,939 --> 00:23:49,239
Renner:
He really studied the subject.
464
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,070
He knew the jargon.
465
00:23:51,141 --> 00:23:53,641
So he got a false license,
466
00:23:53,741 --> 00:23:56,541
and he was so well-read
in the subject
467
00:23:56,642 --> 00:23:59,282
that he was able to convince
another psychologist
468
00:23:59,343 --> 00:24:02,483
to let him have an office space.
469
00:24:02,544 --> 00:24:06,884
He even had one or two
patients drop in.
470
00:24:06,944 --> 00:24:09,684
De Reyes: But Bianchi, well,
he needed more.
471
00:24:09,779 --> 00:24:14,079
He set his sights on being in
a position of authority,
472
00:24:14,146 --> 00:24:18,776
something he was obsessed with
since he was a little kid.
473
00:24:18,847 --> 00:24:21,747
Meredith:
We had a candidate that had applied to be a police officer
474
00:24:21,749 --> 00:24:24,049
that my sergeant wanted
to have rejected.
475
00:24:24,149 --> 00:24:26,949
He goes, "I don't like this guy.
There's something about him."
476
00:24:27,049 --> 00:24:29,149
So we wound up
disqualifying him.
477
00:24:29,150 --> 00:24:31,450
His name happened to be
Kenneth Bianchi.
478
00:24:31,451 --> 00:24:37,091
??
479
00:24:39,286 --> 00:24:44,346
??
480
00:24:44,355 --> 00:24:47,085
Welcome back to
"Very Scary People."
481
00:24:47,155 --> 00:24:48,885
Kenneth Bianchi had
bright dreams
482
00:24:48,955 --> 00:24:50,655
when he moved to Los Angeles
483
00:24:50,656 --> 00:24:53,356
to be near his cousin,
Angelo Buono.
484
00:24:53,357 --> 00:24:56,687
For years, he'd imagined himself
in a position of authority
485
00:24:56,790 --> 00:24:58,660
and having others
look up to him.
486
00:24:58,658 --> 00:25:01,288
Although Buono and Bianchi
barely knew each other,
487
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,359
the cousins found they had more
in common than either realized.
488
00:25:05,460 --> 00:25:10,490
??
489
00:25:10,561 --> 00:25:13,101
Davis: When Bianchi moved out
to southern California,
490
00:25:13,162 --> 00:25:15,002
he knew he needed
to make some money.
491
00:25:15,061 --> 00:25:16,661
Well, his older cousin
Angelo said,
492
00:25:16,663 --> 00:25:18,763
"Why don't we go into
the prostitution business?"
493
00:25:18,763 --> 00:25:20,363
Reporter: This is Sabra.
494
00:25:20,463 --> 00:25:23,163
She was 17 years old when she
was allegedly forced to work
495
00:25:23,164 --> 00:25:26,164
as a prostitute
on behalf of Angelo Buono
496
00:25:26,165 --> 00:25:28,895
and his cousin and companion,
Ken Bianchi,
497
00:25:28,964 --> 00:25:31,504
now the two suspects
in the Hillside Stranglings.
498
00:25:31,566 --> 00:25:33,166
His temper flared up
very easily,
499
00:25:33,267 --> 00:25:36,767
and if he didn't get his way
on things that he wanted,
500
00:25:36,768 --> 00:25:38,198
then it was like,
501
00:25:38,268 --> 00:25:40,268
"I'm going to slap you around
a couple of times
502
00:25:40,369 --> 00:25:44,099
until you realize
that I mean business."
503
00:25:44,169 --> 00:25:46,069
Lee: Sabra's a very pretty girl,
504
00:25:46,170 --> 00:25:48,570
full of dreams,
like many girls her age,
505
00:25:48,571 --> 00:25:51,801
and believed that she was going
to be a model or an actress,
506
00:25:51,905 --> 00:25:53,565
and came to Hollywood.
507
00:25:53,572 --> 00:25:56,472
Kenneth Bianchi posed
as a modeling agent
508
00:25:56,472 --> 00:25:58,272
when he lured Sabra.
509
00:25:58,373 --> 00:26:02,613
He was a master of identities
and of personalities.
510
00:26:02,674 --> 00:26:06,374
Sabra was pressured
to bring another girl in.
511
00:26:06,375 --> 00:26:08,575
Becky Spears was
a friend of sabra's.
512
00:26:08,576 --> 00:26:09,976
And Becky came in,
513
00:26:10,075 --> 00:26:12,175
and things started to get rough
at that point.
514
00:26:12,177 --> 00:26:14,507
I never saw a gentle side
of either one of them.
515
00:26:14,577 --> 00:26:17,177
I never saw a human side
of either one of them.
516
00:26:17,278 --> 00:26:21,178
I would say when I was there,
I was kidnapped.
517
00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:25,379
I was there not
on my own will.
518
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,310
Becky was sent out to meet
a lawyer as a customer,
519
00:26:28,381 --> 00:26:31,521
and Becky told him the story,
and he helped her escape.
520
00:26:31,581 --> 00:26:34,121
De Reyes: They still had
the other young woman,
521
00:26:34,182 --> 00:26:37,182
and eventually she escaped.
522
00:26:37,283 --> 00:26:40,983
Lee: There's a theory that
after Sabra and Becky got away,
523
00:26:40,983 --> 00:26:42,683
that these two wanted revenge,
524
00:26:42,684 --> 00:26:44,524
but I think it was
more complicated than that.
525
00:26:44,585 --> 00:26:46,675
I think that they had
the intentions
526
00:26:46,685 --> 00:26:48,585
of setting up an escort service.
527
00:26:48,586 --> 00:26:51,586
Davis: So Bianchi and Buono
contacted two young prostitutes
528
00:26:51,587 --> 00:26:55,317
in Hollywood, Yolanda Washington
and Debbie Noble.
529
00:26:55,388 --> 00:27:00,618
At one point, they were given
a list of possible johns.
530
00:27:00,689 --> 00:27:03,819
They soon found out, though,
that the list was fake,
531
00:27:03,923 --> 00:27:06,093
and that they were taken
for money.
532
00:27:06,190 --> 00:27:08,190
That angered them greatly.
533
00:27:10,324 --> 00:27:13,834
Yolanda Washington happened
to casually say to
534
00:27:13,925 --> 00:27:19,685
Angelo and Ken where she walked
the streets on Sunset Boulevard,
535
00:27:19,694 --> 00:27:22,404
and they went and found
Yolanda Washington.
536
00:27:22,495 --> 00:27:24,085
Renner:
They killed her in a car,
537
00:27:24,094 --> 00:27:27,204
but once they decided that
that was too risky,
538
00:27:27,196 --> 00:27:29,396
they developed this whole M.O.
539
00:27:29,496 --> 00:27:31,796
??
540
00:27:31,797 --> 00:27:35,727
Bianchi and Buono would drive
around as if they're two cops.
541
00:27:35,831 --> 00:27:38,531
The police ruse thing was used
in almost all of them.
542
00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:40,399
Psychiatrist: So they were
under the impression
543
00:27:40,499 --> 00:27:43,799
that they were being taken
to a police station, right?
544
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,300
Right.
545
00:27:45,301 --> 00:27:48,401
All signs pointed to the fact
that most of the victims
546
00:27:48,401 --> 00:27:50,231
were brought back
to Buono's home
547
00:27:50,302 --> 00:27:52,402
next to the upholstery shop.
548
00:27:52,402 --> 00:28:01,842
The girls were undressed,
bound, gagged, whatever.
549
00:28:01,904 --> 00:28:03,444
There was sex
with them.
550
00:28:03,505 --> 00:28:06,505
They were apparently
placed in a chair
551
00:28:06,506 --> 00:28:10,606
where they were violated,
tortured.
552
00:28:10,707 --> 00:28:15,037
Fibers from that chair were
found on several of the victims.
553
00:28:15,107 --> 00:28:18,607
Then they were put on
the floor and killed.
554
00:28:18,709 --> 00:28:22,209
After they were dead, the body
was loaded into the car,
555
00:28:22,210 --> 00:28:23,710
the nude body.
556
00:28:23,710 --> 00:28:27,940
De Reyes: The bodies had been
dumped off in areas
557
00:28:28,010 --> 00:28:32,510
that were pretty much in the
general vicinity of Glendale.
558
00:28:32,512 --> 00:28:37,152
It would put Angelo Buono's shop
somewhat in the middle of it.
559
00:28:39,247 --> 00:28:42,047
Buono and Bianchi were
operating undetected,
560
00:28:42,114 --> 00:28:44,854
and the body count
continued to rise.
561
00:28:44,949 --> 00:28:47,119
When law enforcement
hasn't started to target them,
562
00:28:47,216 --> 00:28:48,516
they get brave,
563
00:28:48,516 --> 00:28:50,946
and they begin to push
the envelope to see
564
00:28:51,016 --> 00:28:56,346
if they can do more and more
to kind of frustrate the police.
565
00:28:56,419 --> 00:28:58,549
Davis: Kimberly Martin was
the ninth victim.
566
00:28:58,619 --> 00:29:00,819
She was working
for an escort service.
567
00:29:00,820 --> 00:29:02,320
These guys were so confident,
568
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,250
they asked the service to a girl
to an empty apartment
569
00:29:05,321 --> 00:29:07,861
in the same complex
where Bianchi lived.
570
00:29:07,954 --> 00:29:10,424
Schlesinger: When they called up
and had a prostitute
571
00:29:10,422 --> 00:29:14,062
go to an empty apartment
in a place where Bianchi lived,
572
00:29:14,122 --> 00:29:15,622
that's high-risk behavior,
573
00:29:15,624 --> 00:29:17,964
because they can get
connected to it.
574
00:29:18,023 --> 00:29:19,563
Davis: Kimberly Martin ended up
575
00:29:19,624 --> 00:29:22,334
getting into a struggle with the
killers in Bianchi's building,
576
00:29:22,425 --> 00:29:24,855
and some of the neighbors
overheard the commotion.
577
00:29:24,925 --> 00:29:26,955
Lee: The police officers were
interviewing everybody
578
00:29:27,025 --> 00:29:28,355
in the apartments
579
00:29:28,427 --> 00:29:31,027
and forcing them to show
their driver's license.
580
00:29:31,126 --> 00:29:33,356
And they spoke
to Kenneth Bianchi,
581
00:29:33,428 --> 00:29:35,258
and he manipulated his way
from showing them
582
00:29:35,328 --> 00:29:36,858
the driver's license,
583
00:29:36,928 --> 00:29:39,058
because if they would have seen
the driver's license,
584
00:29:39,128 --> 00:29:42,558
they would have noted that the
address on the driver's license
585
00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:45,560
was the same address
as the previous victim.
586
00:29:45,631 --> 00:29:51,231
??
587
00:29:52,866 --> 00:29:54,526
??
588
00:29:54,633 --> 00:29:57,533
Meredith:
In the city of Los Angeles, we went through 10 murders,
589
00:29:57,634 --> 00:30:01,634
and the Cindy Hudspeth case
was the last one we had.
590
00:30:01,635 --> 00:30:03,925
Renner: Cindy Hudspeth's
on her way to work.
591
00:30:03,935 --> 00:30:07,035
She's in her car.
She's driving along.
592
00:30:07,036 --> 00:30:09,536
She sees an auto upholstery shop
593
00:30:09,537 --> 00:30:11,767
and just on a whim,
she stops in,
594
00:30:11,870 --> 00:30:14,940
and it's Angelo Buono's
upholstery shop.
595
00:30:14,937 --> 00:30:17,867
Angelo and Ken cannot
believe their good luck.
596
00:30:17,938 --> 00:30:20,468
They don't even have to
go cruising for anyone.
597
00:30:20,540 --> 00:30:24,040
This woman just walked
right into the trap.
598
00:30:24,140 --> 00:30:28,680
And at this point, their M.O.
Is really solid.
599
00:30:28,742 --> 00:30:33,882
And they get her tied up,
and they do what they always do.
600
00:30:33,976 --> 00:30:38,636
They sexually assault her
and they strangle her.
601
00:30:38,745 --> 00:30:41,635
??
602
00:30:41,645 --> 00:30:43,745
Since she just walked in,
her car is there.
603
00:30:43,846 --> 00:30:47,376
They have to get rid of it.
They put her body in the trunk.
604
00:30:47,447 --> 00:30:50,377
Ken's driving in her car
with her body in it.
605
00:30:50,448 --> 00:30:52,148
They get it to a hillside.
606
00:30:52,248 --> 00:30:55,148
Angelo parks at the side
of the road behind him.
607
00:30:55,249 --> 00:30:58,449
They look around to see
if anyone's watching,
608
00:30:58,550 --> 00:31:02,180
and they just pitch
the car over the side.
609
00:31:02,250 --> 00:31:09,750
??
610
00:31:09,852 --> 00:31:14,892
So despite the extensive manhunt
for the Hillside Stranglers,
611
00:31:14,987 --> 00:31:18,657
including after the death
of Cindy Hudspeth,
612
00:31:18,754 --> 00:31:23,194
Bianchi continued
to take unnecessary risks.
613
00:31:23,256 --> 00:31:25,986
At the time, LAPD had a program
614
00:31:26,055 --> 00:31:29,185
to take citizens
on a ride-along with police.
615
00:31:29,257 --> 00:31:32,357
Bianchi, who always wanted
to be in law enforcement,
616
00:31:32,458 --> 00:31:34,058
took them up on it.
617
00:31:34,058 --> 00:31:36,288
Schlesinger: Buono,
who's very street smart
618
00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:38,489
and knows you can
only take it so far,
619
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:40,989
said to Bianchi,
"You got to get out of here,
620
00:31:41,059 --> 00:31:42,659
and if you don't
I'm going to kill you,
621
00:31:42,761 --> 00:31:45,661
because you're gonna get me
implicated in this."
622
00:31:45,761 --> 00:31:50,561
So then Bianchi moved
to Washington state.
623
00:31:50,562 --> 00:31:52,402
De Reyes:
After moving to Washington,
624
00:31:52,463 --> 00:31:54,603
Bianchi was arrested
for the murders
625
00:31:54,664 --> 00:31:57,564
of Diane Wilder
and Karen Mandic.
626
00:31:57,665 --> 00:31:59,895
And then he started to talk,
627
00:31:59,998 --> 00:32:03,998
fully implicating Angelo Buono
in the L.A. murders.
628
00:32:04,065 --> 00:32:05,595
Davis:
Finally, detectives in L.A.
629
00:32:05,667 --> 00:32:08,267
were ready to move
against Buono.
630
00:32:08,267 --> 00:32:10,967
We immediately deployed
our tactical team.
631
00:32:10,967 --> 00:32:12,567
We had placed some snipers
on the roof
632
00:32:12,669 --> 00:32:13,799
of an apartment building
633
00:32:13,902 --> 00:32:16,372
behind Angelo Buono's
upholstery shop.
634
00:32:16,469 --> 00:32:18,169
We had secured the area.
635
00:32:18,270 --> 00:32:24,170
??
636
00:32:24,170 --> 00:32:25,670
When he walked out in handcuffs,
637
00:32:25,671 --> 00:32:29,611
I looked at him
and I thought, the arrogance,
638
00:32:29,673 --> 00:32:34,573
the confidence, the demeanor,
the evilness that he possessed.
639
00:32:34,674 --> 00:32:37,514
??
640
00:32:37,575 --> 00:32:39,865
I was relieved.
Finally, we've got him.
641
00:32:39,875 --> 00:32:43,575
We get to do something about it.
642
00:32:43,676 --> 00:32:46,076
Everyone was getting ready
for Buono's trial
643
00:32:46,076 --> 00:32:50,776
when Bianchi's life
took a turn no one expected.
644
00:32:50,778 --> 00:32:52,378
McEachran:
Veronica Compton was a woman
645
00:32:52,378 --> 00:32:55,408
who likened herself
as a playwright,
646
00:32:55,479 --> 00:32:58,079
and she wanted
to interview Bianchi.
647
00:32:58,179 --> 00:33:02,279
Renner: She'd written a play
called, "The Mutilated Cutter,"
648
00:33:02,381 --> 00:33:05,421
which is just one heck
of a name for anything.
649
00:33:05,482 --> 00:33:07,922
And she approached
Bianchi in prison
650
00:33:08,015 --> 00:33:10,775
and wanted to talk to him
to do some sort of research.
651
00:33:10,783 --> 00:33:12,183
Well, one thing led to another.
652
00:33:12,183 --> 00:33:15,483
She became romantically involved
with Bianchi.
653
00:33:15,584 --> 00:33:17,224
And apparently,
they fell in love.
654
00:33:17,285 --> 00:33:18,515
Renner: She's attractive,
655
00:33:18,585 --> 00:33:21,175
But the thing that really
attracts Ken is,
656
00:33:21,185 --> 00:33:24,185
in this screenplay
that she's written,
657
00:33:24,186 --> 00:33:27,086
it revolves around
a female serial killer,
658
00:33:27,086 --> 00:33:31,586
and she lays a false trail
for investigators
659
00:33:31,688 --> 00:33:35,318
by taking the semen
of innocent men
660
00:33:35,389 --> 00:33:39,019
and leaving it at the scene
to throw the police off.
661
00:33:39,089 --> 00:33:42,619
The wheels start turning
in Ken's head.
662
00:33:42,691 --> 00:33:45,191
Bianchi and Compton
came up with a plan
663
00:33:45,191 --> 00:33:47,031
that they thought
would convince authorities
664
00:33:47,091 --> 00:33:50,291
that they had the wrong man,
and that
665
00:33:50,293 --> 00:33:54,093
the real Hillside Strangler
was on the loose.
666
00:33:54,193 --> 00:33:57,133
Renner:
Never mind that he's already confessed to the crimes,
667
00:33:57,194 --> 00:33:58,934
but she's going to do
this thing for him.
668
00:33:59,028 --> 00:34:01,298
De Reyes:
He gave her a condom of semen
669
00:34:01,296 --> 00:34:03,896
to put on the victim
so that they could say,
670
00:34:03,897 --> 00:34:07,827
"Hey, there's, there's somebody
else doing those crimes."
671
00:34:07,931 --> 00:34:10,401
McEachran: She came to
Bellingham and had a disguise
672
00:34:10,398 --> 00:34:11,798
on making her look pregnant,
673
00:34:11,898 --> 00:34:16,228
had a long wig on,
and went to a local bar here
674
00:34:16,300 --> 00:34:19,800
and encountered a young woman
whose name was Kim Breed.
675
00:34:19,801 --> 00:34:22,101
And they started
drinking together,
676
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:26,740
and Veronica Compton invited
her back to her hotel room.
677
00:34:26,803 --> 00:34:29,043
When they got there,
Veronica indicated
678
00:34:29,102 --> 00:34:31,242
she wanted to
just change her clothes,
679
00:34:31,304 --> 00:34:34,704
and went in the bathroom
and came back out
680
00:34:34,804 --> 00:34:37,844
and was able to get behind
this young woman
681
00:34:37,938 --> 00:34:39,638
and put a ligature
around her neck
682
00:34:39,706 --> 00:34:42,706
and started choking her,
trying to kill her.
683
00:34:51,409 --> 00:34:53,209
She was a very strong woman.
684
00:34:53,208 --> 00:34:56,038
Was able to get the ligature
off her neck,
685
00:34:56,109 --> 00:34:58,339
and knocked
Veronica Compton down
686
00:34:58,410 --> 00:35:02,250
and Veronica Compton
ran out of the room.
687
00:35:02,311 --> 00:35:06,111
Davis:
It wasn't long before police caught up with Veronica Compton.
688
00:35:06,212 --> 00:35:10,052
I charged her with attempted
murder in the first degree.
689
00:35:10,113 --> 00:35:14,553
Veronica, did you attempt
to murder Kim Breed?
690
00:35:14,614 --> 00:35:16,514
No.
691
00:35:16,515 --> 00:35:20,415
It was supposed to be a game.
She was in on it.
692
00:35:20,416 --> 00:35:23,546
The jury wasn't buying
Veronica Compton's claim.
693
00:35:23,617 --> 00:35:26,247
She was convicted
in a jury trial.
694
00:35:26,317 --> 00:35:30,217
Renner:
Veronica Compton does spend 22 years in prison for this.
695
00:35:30,218 --> 00:35:33,048
The whole thing was
just bizarre.
696
00:35:33,118 --> 00:35:36,118
I think that's the best word
that I can think of.
697
00:35:36,219 --> 00:35:39,049
With the Compton distraction
out of the way,
698
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,020
prosecutors were now
concentrating on getting justice
699
00:35:43,021 --> 00:35:45,621
for the victims
of the Hillside Stranglers.
700
00:35:45,723 --> 00:35:51,323
??
701
00:35:54,058 --> 00:35:55,958
Reporter:
Buono wore a jail uniform
702
00:35:56,024 --> 00:35:58,634
to and from
the criminal courts building.
703
00:35:58,693 --> 00:36:00,833
At that time, we had
a system in Los Angeles
704
00:36:00,926 --> 00:36:06,426
where judges would appoint
attorneys to represent someone,
705
00:36:06,428 --> 00:36:10,228
so the first person who was
appointed was Gerry Chaleff.
706
00:36:10,228 --> 00:36:13,358
Gerry was looking for
somebody in particular.
707
00:36:13,429 --> 00:36:15,529
He wanted to have a female.
708
00:36:15,530 --> 00:36:20,530
He knew a woman was going to be
sitting next to Angelo Buono.
709
00:36:20,532 --> 00:36:25,032
And here's a man that's
charged with raping
710
00:36:25,031 --> 00:36:29,331
and torturing and killing
10 women,
711
00:36:29,333 --> 00:36:33,433
and if he can get along with
what appears to be a nice woman
712
00:36:33,435 --> 00:36:35,265
for a lengthy period of time,
713
00:36:35,335 --> 00:36:37,635
and the jury
is watching everything,
714
00:36:37,735 --> 00:36:41,335
then maybe he's
not that bad after all.
715
00:36:41,336 --> 00:36:43,236
The district attorney
at the time
716
00:36:43,337 --> 00:36:46,537
realizes that Bianchi
lies constantly.
717
00:36:46,638 --> 00:36:49,038
And so the district attorney
is saying,
718
00:36:49,038 --> 00:36:51,838
"I can't go to court
and charge Buono
719
00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:53,839
when my star witness is Bianchi,
720
00:36:53,940 --> 00:36:56,140
who can't tell the truth
about anything."
721
00:36:56,139 --> 00:37:00,239
Mader: And so the district
attorney of Los Angeles
722
00:37:00,241 --> 00:37:03,641
at the time went into court
to dismiss the case.
723
00:37:03,710 --> 00:37:07,840
And the judge, Ron George, said,
"Mm, wait a minute here.
724
00:37:07,944 --> 00:37:13,754
I'm not necessarily going to
just on the spot here
725
00:37:13,845 --> 00:37:15,345
dismiss the case.
726
00:37:15,445 --> 00:37:17,075
I need more information."
727
00:37:17,145 --> 00:37:20,475
I would say in over 99%
of the cases,
728
00:37:20,547 --> 00:37:23,877
one would not second guess
a prosecutor,
729
00:37:23,980 --> 00:37:27,480
but in this case,
I felt obliged to.
730
00:37:27,548 --> 00:37:31,078
He picked up on a lot
of scientific investigations,
731
00:37:31,148 --> 00:37:33,718
reports,
particularly the fiber evidence,
732
00:37:33,717 --> 00:37:38,247
that appeared to connect Buono
and Buono's house
733
00:37:38,351 --> 00:37:41,751
to the murdered young women.
734
00:37:41,852 --> 00:37:45,292
De Reyes:
So they appointed a couple of attorneys to handle the case,
735
00:37:45,353 --> 00:37:47,653
and these guys were much
more gung-ho.
736
00:37:47,754 --> 00:37:51,654
These guys were much more
battle-tested, you could tell.
737
00:37:51,722 --> 00:37:54,562
And I think that Gerald Chaleff
and Katherine Mader
738
00:37:54,655 --> 00:37:56,585
had their hands full
with these two.
739
00:37:56,656 --> 00:38:02,886
??
740
00:38:02,990 --> 00:38:05,090
Davis: The trial went on and on.
741
00:38:05,157 --> 00:38:08,087
In fact, it was the longest
trial in Los Angeles County
742
00:38:08,157 --> 00:38:09,657
at that time.
743
00:38:09,726 --> 00:38:12,726
De Reyes: The prosecution was
determined to use Bianchi
744
00:38:12,727 --> 00:38:13,987
as their star witness.
745
00:38:14,059 --> 00:38:16,289
He'd already pleaded guilty
to the two murderers
746
00:38:16,361 --> 00:38:20,461
in Washington state
and the five in L.A.
747
00:38:20,462 --> 00:38:24,002
The defense countered that it
was impossible for Bianchi
748
00:38:24,062 --> 00:38:25,802
to tell a consistent story.
749
00:38:25,863 --> 00:38:27,603
Chaleff: I think he's a liar.
750
00:38:27,664 --> 00:38:30,734
He's a sophisticated con man
who will use anything
751
00:38:30,732 --> 00:38:33,262
and anybody
to get what he wants.
752
00:38:33,264 --> 00:38:36,674
Perhaps I had convinced myself
753
00:38:36,733 --> 00:38:41,303
that we really had a shot
of getting an acquittal here
754
00:38:41,367 --> 00:38:43,797
as to all the murders.
755
00:38:43,868 --> 00:38:50,568
??
756
00:38:50,669 --> 00:38:54,299
The convictions
came in piecemeal.
757
00:38:54,370 --> 00:38:59,370
The first verdict that
the jurors reached
758
00:38:59,372 --> 00:39:03,372
was with the victim
Yolanda Washington,
759
00:39:03,373 --> 00:39:07,473
and the jurors came back
fairly quickly
760
00:39:07,574 --> 00:39:09,674
with a not guilty verdict.
761
00:39:09,742 --> 00:39:15,382
I think that must have
freaked out the prosecution.
762
00:39:15,476 --> 00:39:19,506
And then for the subsequent
nine victims,
763
00:39:19,577 --> 00:39:22,507
they convicted him
of everything.
764
00:39:22,578 --> 00:39:24,508
Reporter: Los Angeles Superior
Court Judge Ronald George
765
00:39:24,578 --> 00:39:26,748
lamented that he had
no legal choice
766
00:39:26,746 --> 00:39:30,576
but to follow the jury's
recommendation of life sentences
767
00:39:30,579 --> 00:39:33,279
instead of the death penalty.
768
00:39:33,380 --> 00:39:35,280
George:
Angelo Buono and Kenneth Bianchi
769
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,480
terrorized this city
for several months,
770
00:39:37,581 --> 00:39:39,521
as Angelo Buono
and Kenneth Bianchi
771
00:39:39,582 --> 00:39:44,122
slowly squeezed out of their
victims their last breath of air
772
00:39:44,182 --> 00:39:46,922
and their promise
of a future life.
773
00:39:47,017 --> 00:39:48,317
And all for what?
774
00:39:48,384 --> 00:39:50,384
The momentary, sadistic thrill
775
00:39:50,485 --> 00:39:54,485
of enjoying a brief,
perverted sexual satisfaction
776
00:39:54,486 --> 00:39:57,746
and the venting
of their hatred of women.
777
00:39:57,754 --> 00:40:02,324
??
778
00:40:02,388 --> 00:40:05,888
Davis: Buono was serving
his sentence in 2002
779
00:40:05,889 --> 00:40:08,389
when he met a sudden end.
780
00:40:08,389 --> 00:40:11,389
De Reyes: Angelo Buono died
of a heart attack,
781
00:40:11,490 --> 00:40:13,320
which was a very merciful thing
782
00:40:13,391 --> 00:40:16,291
to happen to
a very unmerciful individual.
783
00:40:16,290 --> 00:40:20,590
??
784
00:40:20,593 --> 00:40:21,793
McEachran: Mr. Bianchi has filed
785
00:40:21,793 --> 00:40:24,133
a number of lawsuits
and appeals.
786
00:40:24,192 --> 00:40:25,532
He has said a number of times
787
00:40:25,594 --> 00:40:27,094
that the real killer
is still there.
788
00:40:27,093 --> 00:40:30,533
That's all he has to do,
is try to argue these things,
789
00:40:30,595 --> 00:40:34,025
and it's just crazy
at this point.
790
00:40:34,129 --> 00:40:35,999
Lee: Bianchi's never gonna
get out on parole,
791
00:40:35,996 --> 00:40:37,286
so he's just stuck there.
792
00:40:37,295 --> 00:40:39,395
And I think
that's a good place for ...
793
00:40:39,497 --> 00:40:43,597
those are the kind of people
that belong in jail.
794
00:40:43,598 --> 00:40:46,598
Davis: Sadly, cases like this,
795
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:50,799
it's another attack
on our fortress of feeling safe.
796
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,500
For those of us who
lived through
797
00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:55,400
the Hillside Strangler case,
we'll never forget it.
798
00:40:55,501 --> 00:40:57,701
Renner: There are ripples
from these crimes
799
00:40:57,769 --> 00:41:01,099
that go on literally
for generations.
800
00:41:01,102 --> 00:41:03,142
It's the fabric of the universe,
801
00:41:03,202 --> 00:41:06,302
and that's what each one of
these victims represents to me,
802
00:41:06,303 --> 00:41:08,703
just a tear in the fabric
of the universe
803
00:41:08,772 --> 00:41:11,612
that never gets put right again.
804
00:41:11,606 --> 00:41:15,036
It did change the way people
looked at the city,
805
00:41:15,105 --> 00:41:16,435
the way they lived.
806
00:41:16,506 --> 00:41:19,206
That's what serial killers
did for Los Angeles.
807
00:41:19,206 --> 00:41:22,606
It set us up for this kind of
paranoid lifestyle
808
00:41:22,708 --> 00:41:25,108
that we still sort of live now.
809
00:41:25,108 --> 00:41:27,038
??
810
00:41:27,108 --> 00:41:29,938
Meredith: I have seen a lot of
horrific crimes in my time,
811
00:41:30,043 --> 00:41:33,013
but I cannot imagine
anything being as horrific
812
00:41:33,011 --> 00:41:35,611
as what occurred to these women
and these girls.
813
00:41:35,711 --> 00:41:37,151
I've dealt with
some evil people,
814
00:41:37,211 --> 00:41:42,151
but nobody as evil and dark
as Buono and Bianchi.
815
00:41:42,212 --> 00:41:46,352
Kenneth Bianchi will be eligible
for parole again in 2025,
816
00:41:46,414 --> 00:41:48,614
the same year he turns 74.
817
00:41:48,615 --> 00:41:51,205
Sadly, while his name
still generates headlines,
818
00:41:51,214 --> 00:41:54,824
the identities of his victims
remains largely unknown,
819
00:41:54,916 --> 00:41:56,916
except to their
friends and loved ones.
820
00:41:57,017 --> 00:41:58,217
I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
821
00:41:58,316 --> 00:42:00,016
Thanks for watching.
822
00:42:00,017 --> 00:42:03,817
Goodnight.
823
00:42:03,867 --> 00:42:08,417
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