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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,000 ?? 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,999 Sackman: Let's say you're so inclined 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,999 to commit a series of murders. 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,999 So what profession and what location might you choose? 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,999 You'd want to choose a location 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,999 where death is a common, everyday occurrence. 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,999 If somebody dies in a hospital, nobody raises an eyebrow. 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,999 You could take that curtain 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,400 and put that curtain around you and the patient, 10 00:00:28,401 --> 00:00:30,999 and no one's gonna see what's going on there. 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:40,999 ?? 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:47,999 ?? 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:53,999 ?? 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,999 Welcome to "Very Scary People." 15 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,050 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,999 Physicians take an oath to do no harm, 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,999 but Dr. Michael Swango did just the opposite. 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,999 From his early days in medical school 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:06,999 until the time he was captured, 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,999 Michael Swango preyed upon the most vulnerable ... 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,000 helpless patients and unsuspecting co-workers. 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,999 In his nearly 20-year career, he left a trail of death 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,999 across several states and two continents. 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:20,999 What could make a well-respected, 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,999 charismatic physician become 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,999 one of the most prolific medical serial killers in the country? 27 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,999 Here is part one of "Dr. Death: License to Kill." 28 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:39,999 ?? 29 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:47,999 ?? 30 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Sharkey: Cindy McGee was a 19-year-old gymnast 31 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,999 from a suburb of Columbus, 32 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,000 and she was at the Champaign, Illinois, campus. 33 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,999 Montanari: I met Cindy when I was student-teaching in college. 34 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,999 She was one of my gymnasts. 35 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:07,999 She was a team leader. 36 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,999 A lot of energy. 37 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:10,999 A lot of fun. 38 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,999 Just a great all-around kid. 39 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,999 She had a full-ride scholarship to University of Illinois. 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000 She was gonna do great things. 41 00:02:20,001 --> 00:02:23,999 She'd gotten through her first year of college, 42 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:30,000 and her second year is when this happened. 43 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,999 She was riding her bike on campus... 44 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:35,999 [Tires screech] 45 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,999 ...and a young man hit her with his car... 46 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:46,999 and pinned her between the curb and the wheel of the car. 47 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,999 And she had head injuries. 48 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,999 [Siren wailing] 49 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,999 O'Brien: She had been taken to medical facilities 50 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,999 around the University of Illinois. 51 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:57,999 Montanari: She was in a trauma unit. 52 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,140 It was very, very scary. 53 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,999 We went to visit her, and she was getting stronger. 54 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:05,999 Her body was healing. 55 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:11,000 Decision was made to bring her back for rehab at a facility 56 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,000 at Ohio State University hospital. 57 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,999 She gets here, and, I don't know, 58 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,000 within, what, a day or two, she was dead. 59 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,999 It was... Yeah, it was devastating. 60 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,999 And it was a complete mystery . .. somebody who was that young, 61 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,000 who was recovering, for her to just die that fast. 62 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,999 Jordan: The last doctor to see Cindy McGee 63 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,999 was Dr. Michael Swango. 64 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:49,999 ?? 65 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,100 Unmisig: I started working as a paramedic 66 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,140 full-time when I was 18. 67 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,999 One of my first shifts 68 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,999 when I walk in to the paramedic quarters, 69 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,999 the director of the ambulance says, 70 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,999 "Here's your new partner, Dr. Michael Swango." 71 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:05,999 He's a doctor. 72 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,999 In my mind, I'm thinking, 73 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,999 "Why is this guy working as a paramedic for $10 an hour 74 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,999 when he could be working as a physician 75 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,050 for $100 an hour?" 76 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,999 I remember I asked him, and he said, 77 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:16,999 "Oh, I got burned out. 78 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,999 I had to take a leave of absence." 79 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,999 Unmisig: Technically, he was very sound. 80 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,999 I'm working side by side with him. 81 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,999 I'm watching in detail as to how quickly he can assess the injury 82 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,999 and how quickly he can manage the trauma. 83 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,999 Cullumber: He was a hard worker and very proficient 84 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:33,999 and he loved to work 85 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,999 and he loved to deal with medical crises. 86 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,999 We were friends. We all got along. 87 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,999 He fit in. 88 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,000 He was just a down-to-Earth kind of guy like the rest of us. 89 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,000 I was getting off shift that morning, 90 00:04:49,001 --> 00:04:50,999 and Mike come in 91 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,999 and he set a box of doughnuts on the table. 92 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,999 Unmisig: I thought, "Well, this is a pretty good guy, 93 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:57,999 bringing in some doughnuts." 94 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,999 So I sat down at the table there. 95 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,999 I ate one of the doughnuts. 96 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Probably 15, 20 minutes later, I am feeling sick. 97 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,999 Down the hall, there was a bathroom, 98 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,999 and I'm vomiting, vomiting, sweating, 99 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,999 and I can hear somebody else retching. 100 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:21,999 Out walks Alan Ingerson. 101 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,999 I said, "You're sick, too?" I said, "I'm sick, too." 102 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,999 Myers: The health department went to the doughnut shop 103 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:27,999 to see if there'd been any other complaints 104 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,999 or any other problems or anything, and there wasn't. 105 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,999 Unmisig: The doughnuts are gone. 106 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,999 There was really nothing they could test. 107 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,999 The health department came in and analyzed the tea 108 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,999 and the coffee and anything else 109 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,999 that may have been in the refrigerator. 110 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,820 Myers: And after their investigation, they determined 111 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,000 that it had to be something else that's causing the sickness. 112 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,999 Unmisig: The next night, we had a local football game here. 113 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,999 The state of Illinois requires an ambulance to be 114 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,999 on standby at football games. 115 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,999 I was on the ambulance. 116 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,999 Swango also signed up to be on that football game with me. 117 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,560 At halftime, he offers me a Coke. 118 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,999 He said, "I'm gonna run up get a Coke. Do you want one?" 119 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:12,999 I said, "Sure." 120 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,999 I'm drinking this soda, 121 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,999 and start of the third quarter, I'm like, 122 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,999 "Oh, my God, I feel like I'm gonna get sick again. 123 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,999 This is unbelievable." 124 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,999 And Mike Swango comes up to me, and he goes, 125 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,999 "What do you feel like?" 126 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,999 I said, "I feel like very similar to the previous day." 127 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,999 And he says, "Nausea, vomiting?" 128 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,999 He snickers a little bit, laughs a little bit. 129 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,999 [Chuckles] 130 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,999 Very, very odd. 131 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:45,000 ?? 132 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,999 I have tried my utmost to be the best person 133 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,999 and the best physician I can be, and that's all anyone can do. 134 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,999 Kreth: I've written to Michael Swango for over 10 years. 135 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,999 He is an extremely charming person. 136 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,000 This is how he sees a story about him. 137 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,999 Dr. Michael Swango graduated with a degree in chemistry 138 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,000 with high honors from Quincy College. 139 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,999 Valery: Michael Swango ... this is a guy 140 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,999 who was an award-winning chemist when he graduated. 141 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,999 Walker: I remember talking to his professor. 142 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,999 He was the guy that always had the answers. 143 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,999 Cook: One of the brightest students I ever had. 144 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,999 Now, I don't know if he was the most intelligent, 145 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,999 but he worked extremely hard at his studies. 146 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:48,999 Myers: He could read a book 147 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,999 and go through that book in no time 148 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:51,999 and close it, and you could open it up 149 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,999 and ask him any questions out of it, 150 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,999 and he could tell you exactly what he read. 151 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,999 And after college, he went into SIU to become a doctor. 152 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,999 He would come back to Quincy 153 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,999 and work as a paramedic part-time during the holidays 154 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,999 and then his vacations and time off. 155 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,999 ?? 156 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,999 My partner and I had just gotten to the hospital from a call. 157 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:20,999 Mike came in. 158 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,999 He was working one of the other rigs. 159 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,999 He said, "I'm going after sodas. 160 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,999 Would anyone want one?" 161 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,000 I said, "Sure." 162 00:08:30,001 --> 00:08:32,999 And I seen Mike walking down the hallways 163 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,999 carrying a soda and he stopped and darted 164 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,999 and went into a bathroom. 165 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:38,999 Pretty soon he came in, 166 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,999 and he set the sodas on the table. 167 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,999 And he set mine down, and it was open. 168 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,999 And I looked at it, and I looked at him and I said, 169 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,999 "What, did you go in the bathroom 170 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,999 and pee in my soda?" jokingly. 171 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,999 And he says, "No, no, no, I wouldn't do that." 172 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,999 What he told me was that his stomach was upset, 173 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,999 so he drank a little bit to settle his stomach. 174 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,999 Okay, I believed him. 175 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,999 I poured it into a glass with ice, 176 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,999 drank probably three, maybe four big drinks of it. 177 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,999 Pretty soon, I was getting sick to my stomach. 178 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,999 So I ran into the restroom and I started vomiting 179 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,000 and I really thought I was gonna die. 180 00:09:20,001 --> 00:09:21,999 I really did. 181 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,999 A lady friend of mine came in to check on me 182 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,999 and I looked up and I told her, I said, 183 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,999 "I think something's not right. 184 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,999 Go out and get the rest of my soda." 185 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:32,999 She came back in and she said, 186 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,999 "Well, Mike dumped it down the drain. 187 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,999 He thought you was sick and didn't want any more of it." 188 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,999 ?? 189 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,999 The next morning, my phone rang at home, and it was Mike. 190 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,999 He started questioning me. 191 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,999 "How did you feel? What did you feel like? 192 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,999 What did it make you do? How do you feel now?" 193 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,999 He wanted to know the symptoms and everything. 194 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,000 And I'm thinking, "This isn't right." 195 00:10:04,561 --> 00:10:06,999 Meyer: The paramedics said, 196 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,999 "We think we got something really suspicious going on, 197 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,999 and we got to get to the bottom of this." 198 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,999 And they got together themselves 199 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,999 and started discussing and comparing notes. 200 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,999 Myers: I was telling the secretary, 201 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,999 who was the aunt of one of the other paramedics. 202 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:22,999 I was telling her about my soda, 203 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,999 and I'll never forget the expression on her face. 204 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,999 Her eyes looked at me, and her mouth dropped open. 205 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,999 She said, "The same thing happened to Brent," 206 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,999 her nephew at the football game. 207 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,999 Mike went and purchased soda, 208 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,999 came back, Brent drank it, in 10 minutes, 209 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,999 he was behind the ambulance vomiting. 210 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,999 Unmisig: My aunt, she was putting two and two together. 211 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,050 She looks at me. 212 00:10:47,051 --> 00:10:48,999 She says, "I think Mike's behind this. 213 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,999 Every time he's around, people are getting sick. 214 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,999 He's the only one that doesn't get sick. 215 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,999 Don't take anything from Mike." 216 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:56,999 And we thought, "No way." 217 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,999 It was hard to accept 'cause if you knew Mike, 218 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,000 you would've never guessed him to do something like this. 219 00:11:04,481 --> 00:11:07,999 Cullumber: Michael Swango, he seemed to get along 220 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,999 with his co-workers just fine. 221 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,999 Now, they did admit that he had, really, an odd sense of humor 222 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,999 that would turn the stomach of most people. 223 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,999 He had this intense fascination with death and dying. 224 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,999 I recall one time where I'm on a call with him and he says, 225 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,999 "Brent, what's your favorite or ultimate ambulance call?" 226 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,999 He says, "Well, mine would be a busload of children 227 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,999 hitting head on with a tanker truck full of gasoline. 228 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:33,999 It'd blow up." 229 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,999 And as he's approaching the scene, 230 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,999 seeing the charred bodies hanging out of the buses, 231 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,999 the blast blowing kids up against barbed-wire fences. 232 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,999 So he's very graphic in detail 233 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,999 about this ultimate ambulance call. 234 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,999 You hear someone say things like that, you know he's not right. 235 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,999 Stewart: He was obsessed with violence and death 236 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,999 from as early as the second grade. 237 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,999 He started keeping scrapbooks of violent crimes, 238 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,999 accidents, homicides. 239 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,999 Unmisig: And these scrapbooks, 240 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,999 they had articles out of magazines. 241 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:06,999 And he was taking a highlighter, 242 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,999 and he would highlight the graphic details 243 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,999 about that individual's death or about that scene. 244 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,999 Scrapbooks of disasters. 245 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,000 The more gory, the better. 246 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,999 Neer: I think that this interest grew and, over time, 247 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,000 just became a part of who he was. 248 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,999 I want you to understand how demented 249 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,999 I think this gentleman was. 250 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,999 Man on television: Right now, I got eyeball on him. 251 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,999 Unmisig: Greg and I are working, and we're watching CNN. 252 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,999 They're getting ready to go in. We're watching them. 253 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,999 And it the mass shooting that occurred 254 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,999 in San Diego at the McDonald's. 255 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,000 [Gunfire] 256 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,999 22 people die that day. 257 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,999 Michael Swango just watches with a big smile on his face. 258 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,000 He goes, "Wouldn't that be great to see? 259 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,999 My God, you know, this is . .. this is unbelievable. 260 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:01,999 I wish I was there to see it all." 261 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,999 Myers: And he got so excited 262 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,999 and ran over and turned the TV up. 263 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,999 We looked at him, "What's wrong with you?" 264 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,999 He wanted to see the death and destruction. 265 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:17,000 For him, violence and death was sexually arousing. 266 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,999 Stewart: As he got older, 267 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,999 he became ever more fixated on this, 268 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,999 working as an emergency medical technician, 269 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,999 so he'd be there at these scenes of these horrible incidents. 270 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,999 He just loved being an EMT, appearing on the scene. 271 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,999 The more cars involved in the crash, 272 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,999 the more bodies, the better. 273 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,999 Unmisig: There was another bizarre incident 274 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,999 where there was a call in the middle of the night. 275 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,999 They get a report of a car accident. 276 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,999 The ambulance races to the scene only to see that Swango 277 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,999 was on top of the vehicle. 278 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:50,999 He's not there to help them out. 279 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,999 He's just there to take pictures of these individuals 280 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,999 inside this car. Who thinks like that? 281 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,999 Saathoff: Death and destruction were fantasies for him 282 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,100 but fantasies that also became realities. 283 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:11,000 ?? 284 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,920 Cullumber: I was a newspaper reporter 285 00:14:16,921 --> 00:14:17,999 and editor in Quincy, Illinois. 286 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,999 We had a call that some paramedics had been getting sick 287 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,999 while they were on the job, 288 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,999 and that's basically all we knew at the time. 289 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,999 You know, I thought, "Well, there's a flu going around 290 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,999 or something," and I kind of blew it off. 291 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:30,999 We're suspicious. 292 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,999 There's something weird going on. 293 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,999 Then Greg gets sick. 294 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,000 Then, from there, the story just kind of unraveled. 295 00:14:38,301 --> 00:14:42,999 Jordan: Paramedics suspected that their colleague, 296 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,040 Dr. Michael Swango, could be responsible 297 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,999 for their mysterious illnesses, but apart from their suspicions 298 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,999 and his bizarre fascination with death, 299 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,999 there really was just no evidence 300 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,999 that this charismatic man could be responsible 301 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,999 or do them any harm. 302 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,999 Unmisig: He's a doctor. He's one that you trust. 303 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,999 Here he has the hands to heal and to help. 304 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,999 He is an engaging, personable, smart, articulate person. 305 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,000 Why would he do something like that? This is crazy. 306 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,999 Jordan: Michael Swango was born on October 21, 1954, 307 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,999 in an Army base in Tacoma, Washington. 308 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,999 His given name was actually Joseph Michael, 309 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:27,999 but he went by his middle name. 310 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,999 According to family members, in his mother's eyes, 311 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,999 Michael Swango could do no wrong. 312 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,999 He had a half-brother, an older brother, younger brother. 313 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,999 McCarthy: His family moved to Quincy, Illinois. 314 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,999 His dad was a military man. 315 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:43,999 Served a long time in Vietnam. 316 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,999 And then when he retired from the military, 317 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,999 he went back to Vietnam with the USAID. 318 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,999 Neer: His father was known to be a very strict 319 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,999 and authoritarian figure. 320 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,999 When they would have guests to the house, 321 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,999 the kids would be marched in formation 322 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,999 into the living room to meet the guest and then told, 323 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,999 "At ease, attention, at ease," and then, "Dismissed." 324 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,999 His mother, by all accounts, favored him. 325 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,999 He was the only child of the three 326 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,999 who was sent to a private school. 327 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,999 He's very bright. 328 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,999 He was valedictorian of his high-school class. 329 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,999 And he was considered pretty much the star of the family. 330 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,999 Saathoff: He really was quite an excellent musician. 331 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,999 When he first went to college in Millikin, it was in music. 332 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,999 Gifted with the clarinet. He got a music scholarship. 333 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,999 Wolfe: Mike was just kind of a normal guy. 334 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,999 He was pretty straight-laced, but he was easily agitated. 335 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,999 People would just kid him all the time. 336 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,999 And, of course, rooming with him, 337 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,999 I would hear about it. 338 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,500 And, boy, there would be times 339 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,999 where he would be absolutely lit. 340 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,999 He would pace the floor, you know, and I would tell him, 341 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,000 I said, "You know, you just got to let that go." 342 00:17:00,001 --> 00:17:02,999 But Swango did not take slights very well at all 343 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,999 because everyone held him up as this example of perfection. 344 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,999 Saathoff: For someone who is super sensitive, 345 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,999 that feels humiliating, 346 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,999 and that caused him to do something dramatic. 347 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,999 Neer: He surprised everybody. 348 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,999 Left his music scholarship 349 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,999 and then joins the United States Marines. 350 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,999 In the Marines, he received an honorable discharge 351 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:28,999 after two years. 352 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,999 McCarthy: When he got out of the Marines, 353 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,400 he went to continue his education back in Quincy. 354 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,999 And at some point, he liked the idea of medicine. 355 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,999 He finished college and was accepted 356 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,999 to Southern Illinois University medical school. 357 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,999 Saathoff: In the first half of medical school, 358 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,999 he was pretty disciplined 359 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:54,999 in terms of having to do well enough on his tests and exams. 360 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,920 McCarthy: But he had several problems. 361 00:17:56,921 --> 00:17:59,999 There was always somebody dying or coding when he was around. 362 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,999 [Monitor flatlines] 363 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,999 There were people who immediately pointed to him 364 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,999 as having engaged in highly suspicious behavior. 365 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,999 And the reason for it was he had the highest death rate 366 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,999 of any of the interns down there, 367 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,999 and they felt it was more than just coincidence. 368 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,999 When he was in medical school, 369 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,999 his fellow students referred to him 370 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,999 as "Double-O Swango ... license to kill." 371 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:34,999 Students petitioned the university not to graduate him. 372 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,999 And they wrote a letter to the Dean, and the Dean said, 373 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,999 "I think we should give this young man another chance." 374 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,999 The matter was settled when he was asked just to repeat 375 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,999 his last year of his education, which he did. 376 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,999 And then he got a really good offer of a residency 377 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,999 at Ohio State University. 378 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,999 Jordan: Dr. Swango spent a year 379 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,999 at the Ohio State University hospital 380 00:18:59,000 --> 00:18:59,999 before returning to Quincy, 381 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,999 and there his fellow paramedics started getting really sick. 382 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,999 His colleagues believed that he was responsible 383 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,999 for their mysterious illness, 384 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:09,999 but they just didn't have any proof. 385 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,999 Meyer: The paramedics themselves started saying, "You know, 386 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,999 why is it that it seems like anytime you work with him, 387 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,999 you get sick, I work with him, I get sick?" 388 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,999 It was apparent to them that, 389 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,999 "Hey, this guy's doing something to us." 390 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,999 But, at that point in time, I think that there was 391 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,999 no indication that we're being poisoned. 392 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,000 We just wanted to find out what was going on. 393 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,999 These paramedics set up a fake ambulance run 394 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,999 so that they would have an opportunity 395 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,999 to go through Dr. Swango's possessions 396 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,999 that were in the paramedic headquarters without him there. 397 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,999 I'm working with Swango. 398 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,000 They sent us out on a fake call. 399 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,999 30-minute drive. 400 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,999 Enough time to go through his bag 401 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,999 and find out what he's using. 402 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,060 We want to catch him, and we're looking for anything possible 403 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,000 that we can use as evidence. 404 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,999 Myers: We found his bag, looked in it, 405 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,999 and there was all the bottles of Terro ant killer. 406 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,999 Terro ant poison, which contains arsenic. 407 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,999 Holstege: Arsenic is a poisoning of antiquity, 408 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,000 goes way back in time. 409 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,999 Potent toxin, reportedly tasteless, 410 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,999 doesn't take very much to poison people. 411 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,999 So very hard for us to be able to detect if we're eating it 412 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,999 and very easy for a poisoner to put on various foods. 413 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,999 People, when they eat it, usually talk about 414 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,999 having gastrointestinal problems initially ... 415 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,999 nausea, vomiting, diarrhea. 416 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:44,999 And if I was a physician seeing that patient, 417 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,999 I'd think he had a bad GI bug. 418 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,999 We looked it up on the poison index. 419 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:50,999 Bingo. 420 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,999 Every symptom that it said it had, I had. 421 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,999 Well, after that, I was convinced I had been poisoned. 422 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:05,000 ?? 423 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,999 ?? 424 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,999 Welcome back to "Very Scary People." 425 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,999 Dr. Michael Swango, 426 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,999 a former Marine and respected physician, 427 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,999 was considered a star in his hometown of Quincy, Illinois. 428 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,999 But in the fall of 1984, that all began to change 429 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,999 when his colleagues in the paramedics unit 430 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,999 became convinced that Dr. Swango 431 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,999 was putting potentially lethal doses of ant killer 432 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,000 in their food and drink. 433 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,999 The paramedics had noticed 434 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,999 that Mike had bottles of Terro ant poison 435 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,999 in his personal locker at work. 436 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,999 Terro ant poison contained traces of arsenic, 437 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,999 which was used back in the time. 438 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,999 They have since changed that compound to make it safer. 439 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,999 Unmisig: There was one bottle that was full 440 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:00,999 and one that's empty. 441 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:01,999 So at that point in time, 442 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,999 that's really our first indication of what he's using. 443 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,999 And we said, "We're not playing around here." 444 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,000 My aunt is working at the hospital. 445 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,100 And she's friends with the director of lab. 446 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,999 And she says, "If I bring you something, 447 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,000 will you examine it for arsenic?" 448 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,200 Myers: It was on a Friday. 449 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,999 My partner and I were working the ambulance. 450 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,999 We had just made a pitcher of tea 451 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,999 with no sweetener in it or sugar or anything. 452 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,999 And we got a call. 453 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,999 When we came back from the call, 454 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,999 my partner picked his glass of tea up 455 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,999 and he took a little sip of it and he sat down. 456 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,000 He goes, "Oh, this tastes terrible. This is sweet." 457 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,999 Greg tasted it, and sure enough, it was sweetened. 458 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,999 Boy, just like that, I felt that stomach starting again. 459 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,999 So we knew we had something in the drink. 460 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,999 Meyer: Terro ant poison ... it's sweet, sugary, 461 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,999 and it attracts the ants 462 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,999 and it's got arsenic in it and that's what kills them. 463 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,999 Unmisig: He contacted my aunt, and then she gave it to the lab, 464 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,999 where the lab analyzed the tea... 465 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,999 And it came back with the arsenic. 466 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,999 Unmisig: ...and found twice the lethal dose to kill somebody. 467 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,000 This is real. 468 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,999 And we thought, "What do we do now?" 469 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,999 We had a candidate running for President coming to Quincy. 470 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,999 Reporter: As the sun peeked over the horizon in Quincy, Illinois, 471 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,999 Walter Mondale was already on the move 472 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,999 to whistle-stop through Illinois, Missouri, and Iowa. 473 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,999 Myers: Mike wanted to volunteer to work the ambulance 474 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,999 to follow the guy around, and we thought, "No way." 475 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,999 We're not sure what he's capable of. 476 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,999 Myers: So we went to the administrator 477 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,999 and started talking to him and telling him all about it. 478 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,999 That's when the police were called. 479 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:03,999 Detective Meyer then came in and started taking our reports. 480 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,999 Meyer: They start laying out all these facts 481 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:07,999 and all these things. 482 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,999 My head was just swimming before the day was over 483 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,999 because I'm thinking, 484 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,999 "What on Earth am I getting into here?" 485 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,999 Cullumber: For the life of them, they couldn't figure out 486 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,000 why he would do what he did. 487 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,999 Myers: My theory was he wanted us sick 488 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,999 so he could work our shift 'cause he filled in a lot. 489 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,999 But I don't think that today. 490 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,999 Unmisig: I think that we were guinea pigs. 491 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:30,999 He's right there. 492 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,999 So he knows how much he's given me. 493 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,999 He's seeing the effects, how long it's taking. 494 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,999 He's asking me questions. 495 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,999 I think he's using this as calculation. 496 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,999 Neer: Poisoning is very passive-aggressive. 497 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,999 You have an interaction with the victim, 498 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,999 and you get to actually watch them and delight 499 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,999 in the discomfort that they're experiencing. 500 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,999 Cashman: I think he was just using them 501 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:52,999 kind of as a lab experiment 502 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,999 to see how much arsenic it took to kill somebody. 503 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,999 Myers: But we have circumstantial evidence. 504 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,999 We don't have anyone seeing him put the poison in the drinks 505 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,999 or the doughnuts or anything. 506 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,000 I thought, "How am I gonna be able to prove all this?" 507 00:25:10,001 --> 00:25:13,999 Holstege: We have a window of opportunity 508 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:14,999 to detect these toxins. 509 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,999 So we'll start looking for hair, nails, 510 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,999 other places where it might embed for a longer time. 511 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,999 Meyer: We had to take hair samples from all of them 512 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,000 because arsenic tends to show up in your hair. 513 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,999 The state crime lab came back 514 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,999 and said that there was abnormal amounts of arsenic 515 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,999 in some of the paramedics' hair. 516 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,999 Brent Unmisig, in particular, got dosed twice. 517 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,999 Brent Unmisig will tell you that he was close to death. 518 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,000 Unmisig: What would have happened 519 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,999 if I would've drank all that? 520 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,999 'Cause I only drank half of it, and I'm in bed for three days. 521 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,999 Would they have been able to link the evidence to my death 522 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,000 if, in fact, I died? 523 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,000 We documented everything we had. 524 00:25:54,001 --> 00:25:56,999 We sent it over to the state's attorney's office, 525 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,000 and then we went from there to the arrest situation. 526 00:26:01,001 --> 00:26:04,999 Jordan: The paramedics and the police set up a trap 527 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,999 to get Dr. Michael Swango to show up at a location 528 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,999 where he could be arrested without incident. 529 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,999 They enlisted the help of the county coroner, 530 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,999 Wayne Johnson, to help bring him in. 531 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,999 Myers: Mike was dying to become a deputy coroner. 532 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,999 He wanted to be in the coroner's office, 533 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,999 and how they ended up getting him to come in was, 534 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:26,999 after they got the warrants, 535 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,999 he called him up and told him that, 536 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,999 "Yeah, I've decided you can become a deputy coroner, 537 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,999 but I need you to come into the county jail 538 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,999 to take your picture for your I.D." 539 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:36,999 And when he walked in to get his picture, 540 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,000 that's when he was arrested. 541 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,999 Meyer: We wanted to search his apartment. 542 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,999 So we requested a search warrant. 543 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,999 And then we made a beeline for where Mike lived. 544 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,999 The landlord let us in, 545 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,000 and we were absolutely astonished. 546 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,999 This guy had a chemistry lab in his kitchen. 547 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,999 Unmisig: They found poisons. 548 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,000 All different kinds of poisons. 549 00:27:09,001 --> 00:27:10,999 Meyer: He had strychnine, 550 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,999 all kinds of poisons for killing rats and mice. 551 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,999 15, 20 bottles of Terro ant poison. 552 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,999 We're taking these pictures and we're going around, 553 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,999 saying, "Do you see any ant infestations?" 554 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:24,999 "No. No." 555 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:30,000 And we searched his whole apartment ... no ants. 556 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,999 Unmisig: And they found recipe cards on how to make poison. 557 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,999 You know, like the cyanide bomb, ricin, botulism. 558 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,000 3x5 cards, just like somebody would have in their kitchen 559 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,999 in a box of recipes. 560 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,999 He had a book that had a chapter 561 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,999 on how to poison the water system of a municipality. 562 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,999 Meyer: And all the pieces started coming together 563 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:51,999 like a giant puzzle. 564 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,999 And now I knew in my mind, as an investigator, 565 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,999 "We got him now. We got him." 566 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,999 But he often was smarter than everybody else in the room, 567 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,999 and he did get away with many years of horrible stuff. 568 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:15,000 ?? 569 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,999 Jordan: Michael Swango was facing seven charges 570 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:21,999 of aggravated battery 571 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,999 for the alleged poisoning of his co-workers. 572 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,999 He made bail and was out in the community, 573 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,000 which made many people very uneasy. 574 00:28:30,541 --> 00:28:34,999 Unmisig: We're standing outside of the hospital. 575 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,000 We turn around. Here comes Swango. 576 00:28:37,001 --> 00:28:38,999 I'm like, "Oh, my God." 577 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,999 He just kind of looks at us, each of us, 578 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,999 and kind of just gives that stare. 579 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,000 You don't know what he was thinking. 580 00:28:45,001 --> 00:28:46,999 Meyer: So we were trying to run 581 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,999 a loose surveillance on this guy, 582 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,999 but he is nonstop 24/7. 583 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,999 He is all over the place. 584 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,999 Cashman: He was not to leave Illinois. 585 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,999 In fact, I ordered him not to leave the city of Quincy. 586 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,999 But he was violating his bail bond by sneaking over to Ohio 587 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,999 to practice medicine in emergency rooms 588 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,999 while his case was pending. 589 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,999 This whole time when he's out on bond, 590 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,999 we're just like needles and pins, 591 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,999 where's he gonna show up next and what is he gonna do next? 592 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,999 Leeper: We had kept a close track of him, 593 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,999 seeing whether he'd be a threat to the judge 594 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,999 or witnesses or the prosecution team. 595 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,999 Unmisig: Judge Cashman, he knew that Michael Swango 596 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,999 was a very dangerous individual. 597 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,999 He didn't trust him. 598 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,999 So there were ice machines around the courthouse, 599 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,999 and so he ordered all the ice machines to be locked 600 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,999 because he feared this guy is laying down poison. 601 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,999 It was just too easily accessible. 602 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,999 I found Swango to not be nearly the endearing, wonderful guy 603 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,040 that he was thought to be by so many people. 604 00:29:48,041 --> 00:29:50,999 Gruber: We need to find out more about him. 605 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,999 There had to be some things going on in his past. 606 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:55,999 You don't just get to this point 607 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,999 where you start to try to kill people 608 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,999 without having done something to lead up to it. 609 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,999 So, you know, I wanted to go into the past 610 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,999 and see where he lived, where did he go to school, 611 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,999 how long he worked, how long he was an intern, 612 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,999 and then find out if anybody got sick on his watch. 613 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,000 Did any patients die? 614 00:30:17,421 --> 00:30:21,999 Jordan: The Quincy police called the campus police 615 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,999 at the Ohio State University, 616 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,680 where he had done his internship, 617 00:30:25,681 --> 00:30:27,999 and they wanted to find out more about his background. 618 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,999 And what they learned was shocking. 619 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,999 It started out simply as 620 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,999 an almost routine background investigation 621 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,999 as a courtesy to the police in Quincy, Illinois. 622 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,999 They had asked, "Do you guys know about this guy? 623 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,999 What can you find out?" 624 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,999 And it started out that simple, 625 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,999 and it got more complicated after that. 626 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,999 Bullock: He was assigned to the emergency department. 627 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,000 He was a very cheerful, affable, eager guy 628 00:30:56,001 --> 00:30:57,999 who seemed to always be in a good mood. 629 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,999 And I was surprised to hear that he wasn't going to be continuing 630 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,999 his residency, that they let him go. 631 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,980 That was a little bit hard to understand 632 00:31:06,981 --> 00:31:08,999 because he seemed to be such a helpful guy. 633 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,999 Why did they let him go? 634 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,999 Harp: We interviewed every nurse at OSU hospital. 635 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,999 I said, "Tell me what you know about Michael Swango." 636 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,999 So we started getting tidbits of, "Well, you know, 637 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,740 he came out of this patient's room, 638 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,999 he ran in, he ran back out, the patient was dead." 639 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,999 There were at least four suspicious deaths 640 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,999 occurring on the floors where Dr. Swango was working. 641 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,999 Gardner: They were of all ages and circumstances, 642 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,999 but the one thing they had in common 643 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,999 was that Swango was near them as a doctor at some point. 644 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,999 He wasn't even their doctor. 645 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,000 He was just near them in the ward. 646 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,999 Such as the case of Cindy McGee. 647 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,999 Sharkey: Cindy McGee was on her bicycle... 648 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,999 [Tires screech] 649 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,999 ...and a young man hit her with his car. 650 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,999 When they got her stabilized, 651 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,999 they airlifted her to Ohio State. 652 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,999 She's actually improving until she gets a visit 653 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:12,999 from Michael Swango. 654 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,999 Then she dies unexpectedly. 655 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,999 O'Brien: She had a high fever, and I think that was the reason 656 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,999 Dr. Swango was tasked with taking a blood draw. 657 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,999 And that was to see if she had an infection of some sort. 658 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,999 Seconds later, he went out, and she had turned blue and died. 659 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,999 [Flatline] 660 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:33,999 O'Brien: The cause of death at the time 661 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,999 was deemed to be due to pneumonia. 662 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,999 But we didn't know how it had happened 663 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,999 until a little later on. 664 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,999 O'Brien: There may have been some warning signs 665 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,999 had someone thought it unusual 666 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,999 that he was exiting the room with this syringe 667 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,999 and shortly after that, she coded and died, 668 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,999 but they really didn't add up those things at the time. 669 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,999 Nobody had bothered to report it to the OSU police department. 670 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,999 Jordan: The hospital conducted an internal investigation 671 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:05,999 into the death of Cindy McGee 672 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,999 and six other suspicious incidents, 673 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,999 but they said that there was no concrete evidence 674 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,999 that Dr. Michael Swango was responsible. 675 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,999 I think that really could've been 676 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:18,999 the stopping point for Swango. 677 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:24,000 He may have never been able to practice medicine again. 678 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,999 I think that they just said, 679 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,000 "We've got to get him out of here." 680 00:33:32,001 --> 00:33:37,999 O'Brien: After the questions arose from the Illinois police, 681 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,999 they opened a criminal investigation here 682 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:40,999 with the OSU police department. 683 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,999 I was pretty shocked that this had been going on 684 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:44,999 and no one knew anything 685 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,000 until the day we got the call from Quincy. 686 00:33:48,001 --> 00:33:50,999 That was our first knowledge of anything. 687 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,999 People are starting to question everything that Michael Swango 688 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,000 has done now in Ohio State University. 689 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,999 We were getting people who say, "Yes, I saw him in the room. 690 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,999 I've always had a strange feeling about this guy. 691 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,999 He shows up at places that he's not the assigned doctor 692 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:06,999 and he's not on the floor," 693 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,999 but you can never get anyone to say 694 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:15,000 they actually saw him inject something. 695 00:34:15,001 --> 00:34:17,999 The nurses are all afraid to be around him. 696 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,999 They sense something is wrong with this man. 697 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,999 But is that enough to convict? No. 698 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:29,000 ?? 699 00:34:30,261 --> 00:34:32,999 Jordan: Police in Columbus, Ohio, 700 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,999 were investigating the suspicious deaths 701 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,999 that had occurred at the Ohio State University hospital 702 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,999 where Dr. Michael Swango had been an intern. 703 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,999 At the same time, Dr. Michael Swango was on trial 704 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,999 for poisoning his paramedic colleagues in Quincy, Illinois. 705 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,999 From the very beginning, it was controversial 706 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,999 because Mike Swango had a lot of friends 707 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,999 that he went to school with 708 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,999 who were convinced that he was being railroaded. 709 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,999 We had a lot of people thinking we were setting Mike up 710 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,999 and that we were doing this to Mike 711 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,999 because we didn't like him. 712 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,999 When it came out, we went through 713 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:09,999 the files at the newspaper, 714 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,999 and, you know, there was nothing that was not glowing about him. 715 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,999 Jordan: His likability within the community 716 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,140 was without question, 717 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,999 but then Dr. Michael Swango opted for a bench trial 718 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,999 where only the judge would hear the evidence 719 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,050 and make a decision, 720 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,999 and that move baffled many in the courtroom. 721 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,999 It was a bench trial, 722 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,999 so Judge Cashman was the judge and the jury. 723 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:37,999 Cashman: I was a little curious, frankly, 724 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,999 why he waived his right to jury trial. 725 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,999 If he had had his case heard in front of a jury, 726 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,999 I think he would've had a chance 727 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,999 of convincing one or more of the jurors that, 728 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,999 how could a doctor do something like this? 729 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,999 I think he thought that he was so brilliant 730 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,999 he could convince the judge of his innocence. 731 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,999 He wanted to go one-on- one and enjoy that experience. 732 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:07,999 ?? 733 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,999 Cullumber: What made this case really interesting 734 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,999 was that there were no eyewitnesses. 735 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,999 It was all circumstantial. 736 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,140 Leeper: Nobody saw him 737 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,999 putting arsenic in doughnuts and iced tea. 738 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,999 It was not a cut-and-dried case by any means. 739 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,999 Meyer: We wanted to find out 740 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,999 where he bought these Terro ant poison, 741 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,000 so we set up a photographic lineup, 742 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,999 took it to Keller's, which was a farm store 743 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,999 just right down from the Quincy police department. 744 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,999 Well, they immediately picked him out, says, 745 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,999 "This guy's in here all the time buying all the ant poison." 746 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:46,999 But that in and of itself is nothing illegal, right? 747 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,999 Cashman: Swango, I think, also liked the idea 748 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,999 of leaving a trail of evidence, 749 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,999 thinking that it would be more exciting for him 750 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,999 if he would beat it. 751 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,999 Cashman: He wore his uniform and drove an ambulance 752 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,999 to the store where he bought the ant poison, 753 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,999 and the clerk had a clear memory of him 754 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,999 because he bought basically all the ant poison 755 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:07,999 they had in the store, 756 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,999 which is enough to kill ants all over town. 757 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,999 There weren't any ants in his apartment, remember? 758 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,999 But now he's got this problem that he's got to account for 759 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,999 why he's got all his Terro ant poison. 760 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,999 He calls me up and he says, 761 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,100 "I need you to come and witness something." 762 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,999 He says, "I've got this horrible 763 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,999 ant infestation problem in my house." 764 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,999 They weren't there when they did the initial search warrant. 765 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,999 And so our local exterminator goes to his apartment, 766 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,999 goes in there, collects some of these ants 767 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,999 that are now running all over his place, 768 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,999 and later his testimony comes out in the actual trial. 769 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,999 Cullumber: Yes, these were ants, 770 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,999 but these were ants that were native to Florida. 771 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:50,999 And Swango had just been to Florida. 772 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,999 Cashman: He brought ants from Florida 773 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,999 when he had gone to Florida 774 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:55,999 to see his mother during Christmas, 775 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,999 but you just don't find those ants in the North, 776 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,999 and they're not indigenous to Illinois. 777 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,999 Meyer: Now he's trying to plant false evidence. 778 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,000 So now I'm feeling even better about the case. 779 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,999 Michael didn't really put on any defense. 780 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,999 But he put on a strong verbal defense. 781 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,999 Meyer: He was gonna explain the reason 782 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:15,999 why he had all this poison 783 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,999 was he always had an interest in toxicology. 784 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,999 Unmisig: In the court, he said, "I'm a physician. I'm a chemist. 785 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,999 I need to know the antidotes to these." 786 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,999 You know, on the surface, it sounds kind of realistic. 787 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,999 Meyer: "I just simply could not have done these things." 788 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,999 That's one of his arguments in the trial. 789 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:32,999 I remember that. He was saying, 790 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,999 "I just simply could not have done these things." 791 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,999 And I'm thinking, "No, you did not simply do these things. 792 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:41,999 They were very complicated, 793 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,999 very well-thought-out things you did." 794 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,999 I think he was just experimenting on people. 795 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,999 They were his little toys to tinker and toy with. 796 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,999 He thought he was superior, he had a superior intellect. 797 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,999 He just thought we would never convict him. 798 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,999 ?? 799 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,999 Reporter #2: In 1985, a Quincy, Illinois, judge found Dr. Swango 800 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,999 guilty of poisoning six co-workers there 801 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,999 at a paramedics' station. 802 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,999 The judge in the case called Dr. Michael Swango, 803 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:12,999 "a danger to society," 804 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,999 and said he clearly performed evil deeds. 805 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,999 Cashman: I found him guilty. 806 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,860 He was a doctor, and he kept telling me 807 00:39:19,861 --> 00:39:21,999 how he would never violate his Hippocratic oath. 808 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,999 Well, he violated it in the worst way. 809 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,999 I was happy with the verdict. Yes, I was. 810 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,999 Relief. 811 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,999 Now we have an opportunity to put this man away. 812 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,999 At the sentencing hearing, he asked for probation, 813 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,999 and I can remember him looking at the judge 814 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,700 and telling him how he would never get in trouble again 815 00:39:38,701 --> 00:39:40,999 and that he could be a productive member of society. 816 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,000 But I think Judge Cashman let him know 817 00:39:44,001 --> 00:39:45,999 that he didn't believe him. 818 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,999 Cashman: He got sentenced to the maximum 819 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,999 that the law allowed for that offense, 820 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,999 and that was five years on all counts. 821 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,999 Cullumber: When Judge Cashman sent him to prison, 822 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,999 we were all kind of surprised by the severity of the sentence 823 00:39:59,000 --> 00:39:59,999 because I'd sat through many cases 824 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,999 where a person convicted 825 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,999 of aggravated battery just got probation. 826 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,999 And now, in retrospect, we understand why. 827 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,999 I was convinced that he was a serial killer, 828 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,000 and somebody needed to do something. 829 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,999 Cullumber: When he was sent to prison, 830 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,999 we thought the book was closed on it. 831 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,999 But after serving two years, Dr. Michael Swango is released. 832 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,999 Now, I didn't think that you could spend time in jail 833 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,999 for poisoning people and come out and be a physician, 834 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,999 but, boy, I was wrong, because that's exactly what he did. 835 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,999 Reporter #3: It is a chilling violation of trust. 836 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,999 As a doctor, Swango had easy access 837 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,999 to both poison and patients. 838 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,999 Look at this guy. Keep your eyes open. 839 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:46,999 Don't turn your back on him. 840 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,999 I think as long as he was in a medical facility, 841 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:50,999 he was gonna kill people. 842 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,999 Neer: Swango injected something into her I.V. bag, 843 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,999 and she felt this intense pain through her body 844 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,999 and she could barely move. 845 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,999 My father's death was not natural causes. 846 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,999 He was telling us that there was a doctor 847 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,999 that went by his room every single night 848 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,999 pointing at him, saying, "You're next." 849 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,999 Nitkewicz: This wasn't some mercy killing. 850 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,999 He took joy in not just killing these folks 851 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,999 but in telling their families that they died. 852 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,999 This was a person who was dangerous. 853 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,999 He skirted right under the law. 854 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,999 It just kept getting worse and worse and worse and worse. 855 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,999 Cooper: At the very least, he seems to be a sick man. 856 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,000 At the very most, he's the epitome of evil. 857 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:40,999 ?? 858 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,999 Dr. Michael Swango was convicted of poisoning his co-workers 859 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,999 and sentenced to five years' prison in Illinois. 860 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,999 He continues to proclaim his innocence. 861 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:50,999 Story could've ended there, 862 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,999 but it would be just the beginning. 863 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,000 The twisted tale of Michael Swango, 864 00:41:55,001 --> 00:41:56,999 a doctor turned serial killer 865 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,999 continues on part two of "Dr. Death." 866 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:01,999 Thanks for watching. 867 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,000 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 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