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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:10,999 ?? 2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,999 Rader: I had many of what I call them projects. 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,999 They were different people in the town 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,999 that I followed, watched... 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:21,999 ?? 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,999 ...cut the phone lines, broke in, 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,999 and waited for her to come home. 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:36,999 ?? 9 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:46,999 ?? 10 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,999 ?? 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,999 Welcome to "Very Scary People." 12 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:53,999 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 13 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,999 The serial killer known as BTK 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,999 began terrorizing the city of Wichita, Kansas, in 1974, 15 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,999 stalking and savagely killing his victims in their homes, 16 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,999 then taunting police and reporters 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,999 with disturbing letters detailing the carnage. 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:13,999 Demented, elusive, BTK was actually hiding in plain sight, 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,620 but his true identity and motive 20 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,999 would remain a mystery for decades. 21 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,999 It all began on an ordinary day with the Otero family. 22 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,999 This is part one of "BTK: Bind, Torture, Kill." 23 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:35,999 ?? 24 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:45,999 ?? 25 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:53,999 ?? 26 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,999 Rader: I came to the back door, cut the phone lines, 27 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,999 waited at the back door ... 28 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,999 had reservations about even going or just walking away, 29 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,999 but pretty soon, the door opened and I was in. 30 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:12,999 ?? 31 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,999 Jordan: The Otero family was a family of seven, 32 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,999 headed by father Joseph and his wife, Julie. 33 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,999 They had both been born in Puerto Rico, 34 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,999 but they moved to New York as children 35 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,999 and there, they met in high school. 36 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,999 Otero: My family was your typical military family. 37 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,999 My father was an Air Force sergeant, 38 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,999 and my mom was a stay-at-home mother, 39 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,999 good Catholic woman. 40 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,999 -They had five children, ranging in age 41 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,999 from 15 all the way down to 9. 42 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,999 We were all into school. 43 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,040 My father expected us to get good grades, 44 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,999 and we stayed pretty athletic and into sports. 45 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,999 Hard workers, good parents, kids doing well in school ... 46 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,999 really, not a care in the world. 47 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,999 Otero: We came to Wichita, Kansas, in the '70s 48 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,999 because my father had retired overseas 49 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:05,999 and was looking for work. 50 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,000 He worked on jet engines, and that was the reason 51 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,999 the Otero family moved here in 1973, 52 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,999 was the number of airplane factories we have in Wichita. 53 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,999 Otero: My dad found a job at Cook Airfield. 54 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,999 It was a small, family-owned airfield 55 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,999 on the outskirts of Wichita, and he was hired as a mechanic. 56 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,999 Hatteberg: Wichita, Kansas, was in the middle of America, 57 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,500 and nobody locked their doors. 58 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,999 It was a great little town to be from. 59 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:41,999 ?? 60 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:47,999 January 15, 1974 started out different. 61 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,999 I asked my dad to take me to school early that day 62 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,999 so that I could get an extra study hall in. 63 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,999 My brother and sisters, Danny and Carmen, 64 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,999 they went with me. 65 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,999 Joe drops those three older kids at school, 66 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,520 and he returns back home and joins his wife, Julie, 67 00:04:02,521 --> 00:04:04,999 in getting the two younger kids ready for school. 68 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:05,999 They're doing typical stuff ... 69 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,999 making school lunches, gathering backpacks, 70 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,999 getting ready for Julie to drop those kids off, 71 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,999 when the unthinkable happens. 72 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,999 ?? 73 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,999 Singular: He goes into the house. 74 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,999 He draws his gun. 75 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,999 One of the first things that he does is cut the telephone cord, 76 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,999 and then he tells them that he just wants their car 77 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,999 and some money and if he can tie them up 78 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,999 and he can get the money in the car, 79 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,999 he'll leave them alone. 80 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,999 Relph: The killer bound Mr. Otero 81 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,999 and then neutralized him pretty quickly. 82 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,999 Singular: He tied up the parents, 83 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:45,999 and then he tied up the kids, 84 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,999 and then, when they were all in his control, 85 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,999 he started to strangle the father. 86 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,999 He strangled the mother. 87 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,999 They were both in bedrooms. 88 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,999 And then he strangled the boy, 89 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,999 and then he took the young girl down into the basement. 90 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,999 ?? 91 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,999 Otero: I walked home by myself that day, 92 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,999 and it was a very long, cold, windy walk, 93 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,999 as is typical of Wichita winters. 94 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,999 I went into the back door through the kitchen, 95 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,999 and I opened up the door, walked in the house, 96 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,999 and I saw my mother's purse. 97 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,999 It was thrown over. 98 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,999 All the belongings were strewn about, 99 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,000 which was totally out of character for my mother, 100 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,999 and I yelled out, "Is anybody home?" 101 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,999 ?? 102 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,999 At that point, one of my siblings yelled out, 103 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,999 "Charlie, come quick! 104 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 Mom and dad are playing a bad trick on us." 105 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,999 ?? 106 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,999 I saw my brother and my sister, Daniel and Carmen, 107 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,999 with my parent's bodies, and my heart ... 108 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,999 it just felt like somebody had ripped my chest wide open 109 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,999 and pulled my heart out. 110 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,999 We tried to use the phone, it didn't work, 111 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,999 so I took Carmen and Danny outside. 112 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,999 And we stayed out in the front yard, 113 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:17,000 and Danny went next door to use a phone, called the police. 114 00:06:17,001 --> 00:06:19,999 When the first police officer pulled up, 115 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,999 he came out to us and asked what was going on. 116 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,999 I said, "Go inside the house. You'll see." 117 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:31,999 He went inside, came back out, looked at me and said, 118 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,999 "Could your father have done this?" 119 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:42,000 ?? 120 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:52,999 ?? 121 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,999 Otero: I remember me asking over and over again 122 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,999 for Joey and Josie 123 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,999 because they were due home from school any minute, 124 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,999 and I just didn't want them to come home to that scenario 125 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,999 with the police there and everything. 126 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,999 I wanted them with me. 127 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,999 The crime-scene investigators . .. they came to the scene, 128 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,999 collected the ropes that the family was tied with, 129 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,999 took pictures, documented the scene, 130 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:31,999 diagramed it, and during the initial crime-scene work, 131 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:32,999 they worked this as if maybe 132 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,999 it was a home invasion of some kind. 133 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,999 Hatteberg: They sent me out, and I arrived, 134 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,999 and police cars everywhere, and then we start to find 135 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:48,999 that there were multiple bodies inside the house. 136 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,999 Otero: I kept asking for Joey and Josie over and over again, 137 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,999 and at one point, finally, 138 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,999 the chaplain came up to me and sat me down. 139 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,999 And the chaplain looked at me and said 140 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,999 Joey and Josie were in the house also 141 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,999 and that they were deceased. 142 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,999 I pretty much went blank after that. 143 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,999 It wasn't 'til very late in the evening 144 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,999 that we even found out the children were involved, 145 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,999 and that's what changed everything. 146 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,999 ?? 147 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,999 Jordan: This attacker took out the parents 148 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,999 and the little brother 149 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,999 all by suffocation and strangulation, 150 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,000 which is a very slow, hands-on style of killing. 151 00:08:36,001 --> 00:08:37,999 It's very personal, 152 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,999 and because it's slow, unlike shooting or stabbing, 153 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,999 you have the option at any moment 154 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,999 of releasing your hands and saving the person's life. 155 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:54,999 The terror on the face becomes enmeshed with sexual arousal, 156 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,999 so the process of dying is what turns him on, 157 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,999 not a sexual act itself. 158 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,999 Relph: It was clear that he wanted Josephine. 159 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:05,999 I think he'd have killed 10 people in that house 160 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,999 if they'd have been between him and Josephine. 161 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,400 He obviously spent the most time with Josephine. 162 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,999 Josephine was moved to the basement of the house... 163 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,999 and she was hung. 164 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,999 ?? 165 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:26,999 That was so sad and so . .. so horrible and so callous 166 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,999 and so cold that he would do what he did to a child. 167 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,999 Singular: He masturbated at the scene, 168 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,999 which becomes significant in terms of forensics 169 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,999 because he's leaving behind DNA samples. 170 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,999 Otis: A lab investigator took samples of that semen, 171 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:47,999 put it in a paper bag, 172 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,999 stapled it shut, and turned it in as evidence 173 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,999 because there was no scientific testing to do. 174 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,999 1974, that went on a shelf in an evidence facility. 175 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,999 I don't think people knew how to spell DNA much less ... 176 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,999 from a law-enforcement point of view ... 177 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,999 much less knew what the value is to preserve that, 178 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,999 but there is one thing policemen did know 179 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:14,999 and the investigator was an incredible imagination for ... 180 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:15,999 you don't know what you don't know, 181 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,999 but he knew he had to preserve that. 182 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,999 ?? 183 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,999 Jordan: He didn't rape the mother. 184 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,999 He didn't even do sexual acts on the mother postmortem. 185 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,999 The idea that his focus was on the 11-year-old girl 186 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,999 really indicates to me 187 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,999 that he's fundamentally a pedophile. 188 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,999 Morton: With Josephine Otero, he said, 189 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,999 "When I saw her bound out of the car and up the stairs, 190 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,999 I knew I just had to have her." 191 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,999 O'Connor: Josie was a little girl. 192 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,999 If that isn't a pedophile, I don't know what is. 193 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:49,999 Foulston: Four people getting killed 194 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,999 at home with two young children. 195 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:57,999 That was the beginning of his quest to be on the dark side 196 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,999 and to do this kind of thing. 197 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,999 January 15, 1974, Wichita instantly changed. 198 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,999 It wasn't an innocent city anymore. 199 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,999 It became a city that was afraid. 200 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,999 ?? 201 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,999 Relph: Law enforcement at the time were looking at it as, 202 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,999 "Is this a one-off? What is this?" 203 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,999 There was just no reason to slaughter this family. 204 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,999 Otero: From what I understand, the police were wondering 205 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,999 if my father's activities overseas 206 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,999 had anything to do with their demise 207 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,999 and what had happened to him, 208 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,999 so there was a lot of questions about overseas contacts. 209 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,800 Hatteberg: As the days progressed, 210 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,999 our police reporters were all over it, 211 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:44,999 trying to get information. 212 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,999 I remember the police chief checking on that 213 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,999 somehow that this could be related to drugs, 214 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,999 but it wasn't. 215 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,999 So they abandoned that lead. 216 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,999 Singular: They put 75 officers on the case. 217 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,999 They contacted other police departments. 218 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,999 They interrogated 800 people in the first few weeks of it. 219 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,999 They set up roadblocks and were stopping all kinds of people, 220 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,999 and they came up empty on everything. 221 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,999 ?? 222 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,220 Jordan: The perpetrator begins to come down 223 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,999 from the high of the Otero family, 224 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,999 and he needs the thrill to come back. 225 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,000 He focuses on a particular young woman, 226 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,999 21-year-old Kathryn Bright. 227 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:34,000 ?? 228 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,999 ?? 229 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,999 Jordan: Four members of the Otero family 230 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,999 are murdered in January of 1974, 231 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,999 and investigators are trying to piece together the evidence 232 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,999 and find the killer when, in April, 233 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,999 another brutal killing. 234 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,999 ?? 235 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,999 BTK: I had many of what I call them projects. 236 00:12:59,000 --> 00:12:59,999 They were different people in the town 237 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,999 that I followed, watched. 238 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,999 Kathryn Bright was one of the next targets. 239 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:14,999 ?? 240 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:21,999 ?? 241 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,999 Kathryn lived in a house just off Wichita State campus, 242 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,999 a rental home. 243 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:29,999 She lived with her sister, 244 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,999 but she had gone to lunch with her brother, Kevin. 245 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,999 ?? 246 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,999 Singular: Killer breaks in. 247 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,999 He's lying in wait, 248 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,999 and he's thinking he will be able to subdue her 249 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,999 and do whatever he wants and fill his fantasy, 250 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,999 which is a lot of what the crimes are about. 251 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,999 When they came home, they were ambushed. 252 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,999 ?? 253 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,999 Relph: He first says he's on the run from California to New York 254 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,999 and he just wants a car and some money. 255 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,000 That's an attempt to put your victims at ease. 256 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,999 He orders Kevin to tie up his sister. 257 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,999 Then he takes Kevin into another room 258 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:16,999 and wants to tie him up, 259 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,999 and they get into a terrible struggle. 260 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,999 And Kevin gets ahold of the gun. 261 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,999 He shoves it into his stomach, he fires it, 262 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,999 and it doesn't go off. 263 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,000 Relph: Kevin believed that he had 264 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,999 gotten ahold of the guy's gun, 265 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,999 but unknown to him, he had a second weapon. 266 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,999 Through a series of struggles, he will shoot Kevin. 267 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,999 Jordan: Kevin still gets up and fights. 268 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,999 The attacker has to shoot him twice. 269 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,999 ?? 270 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,999 He thinks he's immobilized him, 271 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,999 goes to take care of Kathryn according to plan. 272 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,999 Kevin, who is very incapacitated 273 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,999 but still somehow aware, realizes his only hope 274 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:01,999 is to get out of the house and flee and seek help. 275 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,999 Relph: Kevin went out the door and probably let this guy know 276 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,999 that this thing has totally spun out of control. 277 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,999 Singular: Kathryn puts up also an incredible struggle 278 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,999 to try to save her life. 279 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,999 Jordan: The attacker, still with Kathryn fighting and fighting, 280 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,999 has to resort to using a knife to stab her repeatedly, 281 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,999 trying to control and incapacitate her. 282 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,999 He stabs her seven times in one place, 283 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,999 I believe four in another, and then he flees. 284 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,999 Morton: He walks out and walks up the street. 285 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,050 Why would he do that? 286 00:15:31,051 --> 00:15:33,999 Because it doesn't bring any attention to him. 287 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,999 ?? 288 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,999 Singular: Kathryn ... she's able to crawl out of her room, 289 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,999 crawl into another room, 290 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,999 bleeding profusely, get to the phone. 291 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,200 She calls the operator, 292 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,999 and the police come and they get her. 293 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,999 Jordan: An ambulance is dispatched to the address 294 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,999 to gather up Kathryn and take her to the hospital, 295 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,999 but sadly, within hours, she dies at that hospital 296 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,999 while Kevin is trying to give a statement 297 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,999 to the police describing the perpetrator. 298 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,999 Foulston: There was a picture that was drawn of the person ... 299 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,999 mustache and a beanie kind of winter hat. 300 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,999 ?? 301 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,999 Hatteberg: When Kathryn Bright was murdered, 302 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:18,999 no one had a clue 303 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,999 that it was related to the Oteros in any way. 304 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,999 Otis: The Bright case had appeared 305 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,999 to be more of an aggravated robbery, 306 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,999 a home-invasion robbery where it was chaos. 307 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,999 There was gunshots fired, there was stabbing. 308 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:37,999 It really did not compare, crime-scene wise, to the Oteros. 309 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,999 Jordan: So, other than the common denominator 310 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,000 of a home invasion in the middle of the day, 311 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,999 the police had no real reason to link this to the same person. 312 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,999 Morton: BTK studied a lot about police techniques. 313 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,000 He knew that the police, basically, 314 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,000 were looking for a common M. O., a method of operation. 315 00:16:58,001 --> 00:16:59,999 He would wear disguises, 316 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,999 so if witnesses saw him, he would look different. 317 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,999 He would speak with an accent if he talked to anybody 318 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,999 so there would be misinformation out there 319 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,999 because he didn't want to get caught. 320 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,999 ?? 321 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,000 Otis: Later in 1974, towards the fall, 322 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,999 two brothers and a friend of theirs 323 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,999 claimed knowledge of the Otero homicides. 324 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:23,999 Eagle reporters found out about it 325 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,999 and wrote a story about it. 326 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,999 Otis: And then, one day, a Wichita Eagle reporter 327 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,000 took a phone call at his desk. 328 00:17:33,001 --> 00:17:35,999 The caller advised him that there was a letter 329 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,999 at the Wichita Public Library 330 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,999 and named a library book that the letter would be in, 331 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,999 told the reporter, "If you go get that letter 332 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,000 and read it, I think you'll enjoy it." 333 00:17:45,001 --> 00:17:48,999 Hatteberg: And in that letter was a description of the scene 334 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,999 at the Otero house 335 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,999 that only the killer would know about. 336 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,999 The public didn't know about them, 337 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,999 but the police knew about it, 338 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,999 and they knew, "Oh, this guy's real. 339 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,999 This is the guy who did it." 340 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,999 ?? 341 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,999 This letter was sent by the killer to make it clear, 342 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,999 "You don't have the right people." 343 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,999 This killer didn't want anybody taking credit. 344 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,999 Jordan: He is beginning to toy with the police, 345 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:20,999 basically mocking them. 346 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:25,999 That's all part of his craving need for power at all times. 347 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,999 Mattingly: He had some very detailed words 348 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,999 about what he wanted people to know about it. 349 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,999 He said, "When this monster entered my brain, 350 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,999 I will never know, but it is here to stay. 351 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,000 Maybe you can stop him. I can't. 352 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,999 He has already chosen his next victim." 353 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,999 When you read, "There's a monster inside of him," 354 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,999 that's really not true, at least in my experience. 355 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,000 What you see is you have somebody who has 356 00:18:56,001 --> 00:18:57,999 psychopathic traits there, 357 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,999 total lack of empathy for victims. 358 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:01,999 Why? 359 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,999 How do we know he he has lack of empathy for his victims? 360 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,999 Because he kills them. 361 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,999 People like that ... they call them psychopaths. 362 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,999 ?? 363 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:16,999 In that same letter, BTK gave himself a name. 364 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:17,999 BTK: You'll know me by the way I bind them 365 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,999 and I'll torture them and I'll kill them. 366 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:26,999 The BTK nomenclature ... "bind, torture, kill." 367 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,999 And that's how he wanted to be known. 368 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,999 Jordan: He is telling you what to call him, 369 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,999 which is simply a demonstration of his need 370 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,999 for power and control. 371 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,999 Singular: Once the Wichita police department realize 372 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,999 that they're communicating with the killer, 373 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,000 they make the decision not to publicize it 374 00:19:46,001 --> 00:19:48,999 because they think maybe that will keep him 375 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,999 from killing again. 376 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,999 They all turn out to be wrong. 377 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,999 Morton: He had another potential target. 378 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:57,999 That one wasn't home. 379 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,999 He was feeling very frustrated, and then, up the street 380 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,999 comes this little kid carrying a grocery bag. 381 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:10,000 ?? 382 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,999 ?? 383 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,000 Welcome back to "Very Scary People." 384 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,999 BTK, "bind, torture, kill, " was the name he gave himself 385 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,999 after confessing to the Otero family murders. 386 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,999 BTK threatened he would kill again, 387 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,999 but as time passed and there were no new victims, 388 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,999 police wondered if he had moved on to torment another city ... 389 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,999 until March 1977. 390 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,999 ?? 391 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,999 Singular: Almost three years after he committed 392 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,999 the Kathryn Bright murder, 393 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,999 he has gone out again for a kill. 394 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,999 Again, the M.O. Is slightly different here. 395 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,999 Morton: He targeted a house where there was two females, 396 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,999 and he wanted to see if he could kill two females 397 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,999 at the same time. 398 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,999 He went there. They weren't home. 399 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,999 He had another potential target. 400 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,999 That one wasn't home. 401 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,999 He was feeling very frustrated. 402 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,000 ?? 403 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,999 BTK: So I just started going through the neighborhood. 404 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:17,999 I'd been through back alleys, 405 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,999 knew where some certain people live. 406 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,999 While I was walking, I met a young boy. 407 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:32,999 ?? 408 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,999 Jordan: It's March 17, 1977, and Shirley Vian, 409 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,999 a 26-year-old mom with three young children, 410 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,999 is sick in bed with the flu. 411 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,999 Because she's so sick, 412 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,999 all of the children have stayed at home that day. 413 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,999 She sends her 5-year-old son, Steven, 414 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:51,999 down the street to the local grocery store 415 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,999 to pick up some soup for her and the kids to eat. 416 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,999 ?? 417 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,999 Relph: On his return, he's walking back, 418 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:00,999 and he's approached by a man 419 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,999 who shows him a picture of a mother and a child, 420 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,999 says, "Do you know where these people live?" 421 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,999 He says he's a private investigator working a case. 422 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,999 He now watches this 5-year-old boy named Steven 423 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,999 walk up to his own home and enter the door. 424 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:22,999 And he decides impulsively this is going to be his next target. 425 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,999 ?? 426 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,999 Morton: He watched him walk into the house. 427 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:27,999 [Knock on door] 428 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,999 A minute later, he knocks on the door. 429 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:39,999 ?? 430 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,999 ?? 431 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:42,999 [Gasps] 432 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,999 Has a gun, forces his way in. 433 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,999 Now, this is completely spontaneous. 434 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,999 I mean, anybody could've been inside that house. 435 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,999 Jordan: Shirley Vian's extremely confused. 436 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,999 Why is this man in her living room? 437 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,999 The children seem confused and upset, as well, 438 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,000 and she tries to cooperate... 439 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,999 when he suddenly announces 440 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,999 that he has a problem with sexual fantasies 441 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,999 that she needs to help him with, that she can't get out of this, 442 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,999 things are going to happen, they won't be pleasant, 443 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,999 but she can survive if she cooperates. 444 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,999 She actually helps him shepherd the children into the bathroom 445 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,999 and lock the door... thinking, of course, 446 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,999 that the children will be protected 447 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,999 if they can't see or experience what's about to happen to her. 448 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,999 ?? 449 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:30,999 Morton: He then takes Shirley Vian 450 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,999 into the bedroom to assault her. 451 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,000 ?? 452 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,999 In the meantime, the kids are yelling, 453 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,999 and the phone rings. 454 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,999 [Telephone rings] 455 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,999 Jordan: It interrupts the fantasy of BTK ... 456 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,999 the children screaming and crying, the phone ringing. 457 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,999 The fantasy is not there. 458 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,999 BTK: The kids were really banging on the door, 459 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,999 hollering and screaming, and then the telephone rang. 460 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,999 So I cleaned everything up real quick-like 461 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,999 and got out of there, left and went back into my car. 462 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,999 ?? 463 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:07,999 Jordan: The children actually manage 464 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:08,999 to break the bathroom window 465 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,999 and crawl out, running for help to the neighbors. 466 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,000 Relph: Her neighbor comes over, and Shirley is found. 467 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,999 She has a bag over her head. 468 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,999 She's got a ligature around her neck. 469 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,999 There's attempts to save her, but she's gone. 470 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,999 There will be a letter that arrives later on 471 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,999 that specifically says the Vian kids were very lucky. 472 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,999 He had every intention of killing those kids, too. 473 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,999 The phone call and breaking the window 474 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,999 basically saved the little kids' lives. 475 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,999 ?? 476 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,999 Jordan: BTK has now struck for the third time, 477 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,999 and police who would be working these cases 478 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,999 would be looking for patterns and similarities. 479 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,999 Once again, there was no real physical evidence. 480 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,999 The child who witnessed the intruder come in 481 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,999 gave a fairly vanilla description 482 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,999 of a white man dressed in a suit. 483 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,999 The victimology is completely different. 484 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,999 The killer's behavior is completely different. 485 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,999 Other than strangulation in the first and the third, 486 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,999 it just doesn't seem that the same person 487 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,999 would be responsible for all three attacks. 488 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,999 Otis: However, the binding of the victim on her legs 489 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,999 and her arms are what keyed the police department in 490 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,999 to matching that one to the Otero case. 491 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,999 The knots were the same. The rope was kind of the same. 492 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:37,999 So that one was lumped into the BTK cases at that point. 493 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,999 Relph: We knew of M.O., but certainly, 494 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,999 we hadn't come to appreciate what's called "signatures," 495 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,999 things that a killer does just for themselves. 496 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,999 Certainly, some of the binding of some of his victims 497 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:49,999 was just for him. 498 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,999 It didn't further the completion of the crime. 499 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,580 Otis: I believed this guy had to be just as smart as us 500 00:25:57,581 --> 00:25:58,999 when it came to ways to catch him ... 501 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,999 fingerprints and hairs and fibers ... 502 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,999 because he was being very, very careful not to give us any. 503 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,999 Jordan: With this third attack, it wasn't well-Planned. 504 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,999 These were not his intended victims. 505 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,999 Shirley Vian was outside of his normal, careful procedures. 506 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,999 Jordan: One of the more baffling aspects is that this is a man 507 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,999 who had cased the home of two young women 508 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,999 and had his sexual fantasy and his plan all worked out. 509 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,999 When it went south, why didn't he just pack his briefcase 510 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,999 and go back to work? 511 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,760 It really doesn't make sense that he would impulsively 512 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,999 and randomly pick on the home of a 5-year-old child. 513 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:40,999 When we finally asked him about that, I said, 514 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:47,999 "Why did you veer so far from your very strict discipline?" 515 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,999 And he said, "Well, I was just all wound up that day." 516 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,999 ?? 517 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,999 Burgess: That happens, where they will plan something, 518 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,999 it doesn't work out, but they're on a high 519 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,999 and they have to find someone. 520 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,999 And so that's where the impulsive aspect comes. 521 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,999 It moves from a plan, and that fails, 522 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,999 and then they're really angry, so the anger gets built up, 523 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,999 and they just find a situation where they can strike. 524 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:18,999 Foulston: It was unpredictable, 525 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,999 and that really was so disruptive to our community 526 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:29,000 because nobody knew where, when, why, or who was gonna be next. 527 00:27:29,001 --> 00:27:30,999 ?? 528 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,000 Hatteberg: When he made the phone call 529 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,000 from a public pay phone, 530 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,999 a firefighter came up right after him 531 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,999 and was able to have a description of him. 532 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:47,000 ?? 533 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,999 ?? 534 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,999 Jordan: A serial killer is preying on Wichita, Kansas. 535 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,999 In March of 1977, after a three-year hiatus, 536 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,999 he returned to claim his sixth victim. 537 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,999 By December, he's on the hunt again. 538 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,999 ?? 539 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,999 BTK had an elaborate system for finding his victims. 540 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,999 Trolling came first, 541 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,999 then stalking, then naming a project. 542 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,999 He would start with the process of trolling, 543 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,999 which might just be riding around neighborhoods, 544 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,999 looking for women. 545 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:27,999 Hatteberg: I asked him, I said, 546 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,999 "So, how did you pick your victims?" 547 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,999 And he said, "I would be driving down the street, 548 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,999 and I would see a woman standing on her porch 549 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,999 or I'd see a woman walking down the street." 550 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,000 ?? 551 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,999 "And I'd point my finger at her, and I'd say, 'She's next.'" 552 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,999 Singular: So then he would start the process of stalking. 553 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,999 Stalking would involve an individual, 554 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,000 and he would settle in on her. 555 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,999 ?? 556 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,999 Hatteberg: And then he would stalk these people 557 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,999 for a period of time. 558 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,999 He wanted to know all the information 559 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,999 that he could get publicly about them. 560 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,999 Singular: He would then name his project ... 561 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,999 again, a very organized process for him. 562 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:24,999 ?? 563 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,999 When he gets to Nancy Fox, 564 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,999 it will be called "Project Fox Hunt." 565 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,999 BTK: At first, she was spotted, 566 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,560 and then I did a little homework. 567 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,999 I dropped by once to check the mailbox 568 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,999 to see what her name was, found out where she worked. 569 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,999 I stopped by there once, at Helzberg, 570 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,999 kind of sized her up. 571 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:48,999 The more I knew about a person, 572 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,999 the more I felt comfortable with it, 573 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,999 so I did that a couple times. 574 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,999 And then I just selected a night. 575 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:03,999 ?? 576 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,999 Jordan: Nancy Fox is a 25-year-old single woman. 577 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,999 She has her own place, lives alone, 578 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,999 and really is in control of her life. 579 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,999 She has a full-time job at an architectural company, 580 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:15,999 a part-time job at night. 581 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,999 ?? 582 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,999 Singular: Before Nancy has come home, he breaks in. 583 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,999 He goes into her closet. 584 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,999 ?? 585 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,999 She does come home. 586 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,999 She's eating a hamburger. 587 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,999 ?? 588 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,999 And he bolts out of the closet. 589 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,999 When Nancy finds this man standing in front of her, 590 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,999 she actually tells him to get out of her house. 591 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,999 Relph: He thought she was spunky because she was like, 592 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:51,999 "I'm gonna call the police." 593 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,999 And he said, "That ain't gonna do you no good. 594 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,999 The phone's already taken care of." 595 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,999 Jordan: She stands up to him. 596 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,999 This really just feeds his fantasy 597 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,999 because he is going to make sure she knows who's boss. 598 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,700 He tells her that he's suffering from sexual problems 599 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,999 and that she needs to help him with that 600 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,000 and that if she cooperates, nothing bad will happen to her. 601 00:31:16,001 --> 00:31:18,999 Singular: And this is the first time really that he is 602 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,999 actually in control of the situation 603 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,999 and he can actually act out what he had fantasized about doing. 604 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,999 And she was like, "Well, let's get this over with 605 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,999 so I can go call the police." 606 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,999 I think at the time, 607 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,999 women were taught to submit to sexual assaults, 608 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,999 rather than try to fight off an attacker, 609 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,999 which it's different now. 610 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,000 Singular: So he ties her up. 611 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,999 He does very elaborate knots, 612 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,999 and he does the BTK routine again. 613 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,999 He tortures her through the strangulation process. 614 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,999 He brings her up to the point of dying. 615 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,999 ?? 616 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:04,999 Then he whispered in her ear... "I'm BTK." 617 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:05,999 Jordan: Don't forget that "BTK" 618 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,999 stands for "bind, torture, and kill." 619 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,999 He has her bound, he's in the process of killing her, 620 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:16,000 but the torture is the whispering in her ear. 621 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,999 "I'm BTK. I killed the Otero family. 622 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,999 I am now killing you and strangling you." 623 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,999 This is psychological torture. 624 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,999 It would leave her dying in absolute terror. 625 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,000 O'Connor: He will describe that she put up a hell of a fight 626 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,999 that actually turned him on even more. 627 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,999 ?? 628 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,999 Once she is dead, then he will masturbate at the crime scene. 629 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,999 He will leave behind semen and DNA. 630 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,000 When BTK killed Nancy Fox, he left her bound, strangled, 631 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,999 and deceased on her bed, left the house. 632 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,999 The next morning, he realized that nobody had found her body. 633 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,999 He wanted the police to know that he had struck again. 634 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,999 So BTK went to a pay phone, called the operator, 635 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,999 because in those days, there was no 911. 636 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,180 He called the operator and asked to be transferred to the police. 637 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,999 The police responded to that address 638 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,999 and found her body on the bed. 639 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,999 Jordan: It wasn't that he wanted to get caught. 640 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,999 He wanted the cat-and-mouse game to begin, 641 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,999 and if he has to call in the murder himself 642 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,999 and report it so that the police can be on the hunt for him, 643 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,999 that he will do so that he can gain the upper hand, 644 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,999 a feeling of superiority. 645 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,999 "You don't even know I killed somebody, 646 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,999 and you're not gonna catch me." 647 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,000 When he made the phone call from a public pay phone, 648 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,999 a firefighter came up right after him 649 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,999 and was able to have a description of him, 650 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,999 and the phone was just dangling there. 651 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,000 So he was almost caught at that point. 652 00:34:03,001 --> 00:34:04,999 ?? 653 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,000 Otis: When the crime-scene investigators 654 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,999 found the DNA stain 655 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,999 on the female clothing on the bed, they collected it, 656 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,999 bagged it properly, once again, sealed the bag. 657 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,999 They knew that it was semen, 658 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,999 but there was no DNA testing at that time. 659 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,999 And so they packaged it properly, sealed it up, 660 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,999 and put it with the rest of the evidence of that case. 661 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,999 Singular: This is the second time that he's done this. 662 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,999 He did it at the Otero crime scene in '74. 663 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,000 He's now doing it in '77. 664 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,999 He doesn't really know or understand 665 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,999 that genetic material can be preserved over decades. 666 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,999 O'Connor: Nancy Fox is the first one where 667 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,999 he will take a driver's license, 668 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,000 a memento, which is consistent with serial killers. 669 00:34:49,001 --> 00:34:51,999 The souvenir, taking a driver's license, 670 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,999 was really about him reliving the moment. 671 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,999 Burgess: I work with criminal-personality 672 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,999 research studies on serial killers. 673 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,999 That's the way it keeps the fantasy alive, 674 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,999 and a lot of times, that can work. 675 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,999 He can look at the driver's license, 676 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,999 and that reminds him of that and can be used 677 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,999 as a sexual stimulus for him . .. until that starts to wane 678 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,999 and then he has to go and find another victim. 679 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,999 Morton: BTK was interesting 680 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,999 because he basically created his own pornography. 681 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,999 He would draw pictures of women in bondage, 682 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,999 tied up, looks of fear on their face. 683 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,999 That's what he was trying to capture was that terror, 684 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,999 that terror that excited him. 685 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,999 Hatteberg: So I called him at home and said, 686 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,999 "You need to get in here now. 687 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,000 I think we have a letter from a killer." 688 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:48,000 ?? 689 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,999 It's almost two months since BTK called in to the local police, 690 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,999 self-reporting the homicide he committed on Nancy Fox, 691 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,999 and there just doesn't seem to be any attention 692 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,999 being paid to this murder. 693 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,999 Not only that, the police have never linked 694 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,999 all three of them together. 695 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,000 So on January 31, 1978, 696 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,999 BTK sends a cryptic little child's rhyme 697 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,000 to the local paper, The Wichita Eagle. 698 00:36:24,001 --> 00:36:26,999 He creates a poem called "Shirley Locks" 699 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,999 about the murder of Shirley Vian, 700 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,999 based on the poem called "Curly Locks." 701 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,999 ?? 702 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,999 It ended up in the classified department of The Eagle. 703 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,000 Singular: He thinks that this is somehow 704 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,999 going to draw attention. 705 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,999 There's no report about it. There's no story about it. 706 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,999 ?? 707 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,999 After 10 days, he finally sends a new letter 708 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,999 to the local TV station. 709 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,999 If the newspaper's not going to pay attention to him, 710 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,000 maybe the TV station will. 711 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,999 ?? 712 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,999 Hatteberg: It was February 10, 1978, 713 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,999 and I get a call from a receptionist. 714 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,999 And her voice is quivering just a little bit. 715 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,000 And she says, "I think I have something 716 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,999 that maybe could be important." 717 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:19,999 So I walked out front, 718 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:25,999 and she's holding up this letter just by the edges. 719 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,999 It turned out to be a letter from BTK. 720 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,999 Jordan: There was a poem titled "Oh! Death to Nancy." 721 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:38,999 To the left of the poem was typed "BTK" four times, 722 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,999 and beside each, he added tiny hangman nooses. 723 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,999 There was also a pencil drawing of a woman bound and gagged 724 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:49,999 and a two-page letter 725 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,999 with some of the words misspelled. 726 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,999 BTK wrote, "I find the newspaper 727 00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:01,999 not writing about the poem on Vian unamusing. 728 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,999 There's a psycho running loose, strangling mostly women. 729 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,999 There are seven in the ground. 730 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,999 Who will be next? 731 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,999 The writer, who claimed to be BTK, 732 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,999 admitted to the murders of the Otero family, 733 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,999 Shirley Vian, Nancy Fox. 734 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,999 He admitted to and gave details of all of those homicides. 735 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,999 Relph: There was no confusion anymore 736 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,999 that all these cases were connected. 737 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,999 Singular: KAKE realized they had a big story, 738 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,999 but they took it to the police department. 739 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,999 Hatteberg: Chief Lamunyon looked at the letter, and he said 740 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,999 basically that it was time to release the letter 741 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,999 because we now had a serial killer. 742 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,999 Singular: Lamunyon made the decision at that point 743 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,999 to go on television and announce 744 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:53,999 that there was a serial killer in Wichita by the name of BTK. 745 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,999 This morning, KAKE-TV was contacted 746 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,999 by the person who police say they believe murdered 747 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,999 four members of the Joseph Otero family in January of 1974. 748 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,999 So, that evening, the police chief of Wichita 749 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,999 appeared on our air at 6:00. 750 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,999 We have an individual who apparently has 751 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,999 the uncontrollable desire to kill at times. 752 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,999 He is not a rational person during that frame of mind. 753 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,999 As your letter indicates, he tries to fight off 754 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,999 the demons in his head but is unable to do so, 755 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,999 so there's just no question in the police's mind 756 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,999 as to the fact that this individual is responsible 757 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,999 for seven murders in our city. 758 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,999 Hatteberg: We didn't know we had a serial killer. 759 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:35,999 We knew we had a bad guy. 760 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,999 Serial killer, we didn't know about. 761 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,999 That was a terrifying and clarifying moment 762 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,000 for the people of Wichita. 763 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,999 Nobody expected a serial killer here. 764 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,999 Foulston: People were really concerned 765 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,740 about having locks on their doors, 766 00:39:53,741 --> 00:39:56,999 about who might be calling them or them not having the telephone 767 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,999 or just walking into the house 768 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,000 and finding the telephone wires had been cut. 769 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,999 BTK was utterly the bogeyman to all of us. 770 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,999 He was the bogeyman made real. 771 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,999 Jordan: BTK is finally in his glory. 772 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,999 It's been four years since the Otero murder, 773 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,000 and finally, he's on the news. 774 00:40:17,001 --> 00:40:20,999 This is important because he's launched the investigation, 775 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,000 actually giving police the clues they need to try to catch him. 776 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,999 And this is just going to make him feel like he is God. 777 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,999 ?? 778 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,999 There was criticism in the community ... 779 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,999 "Why can't you catch this guy?" 780 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,999 Jordan: What's different about him 781 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,999 and what's unusual is the randomness of the victims, 782 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,999 which is why he was able to get away with it. 783 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,999 He's perfecting his craft. 784 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,999 He's trying to be very good at what he does. 785 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,999 Jordan: For a serial killer's power and control, 786 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,999 they're very often not able to control their compulsions. 787 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,999 The cooling-off period usually gets 788 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,999 shorter and shorter and shorter. 789 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,999 The thrill is gone. They have to get out there. 790 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,999 They have to kill again. 791 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,000 ?? 792 00:41:07,001 --> 00:41:08,999 Gagliano: These homicidal maniacs, 793 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,999 they think they're smarter than the rest of us, 794 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,999 and they think that they're going to pull off 795 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,999 the perfect crime, and it doesn't exist. 796 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,999 The arrogance was part of his downfall. 797 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,999 Hatteberg: We're not getting any communication 798 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:21,999 from the police departments. 799 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,999 Something is happening. 800 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,999 Something is going on. 801 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,999 Woman: This guy? This is the killer? 802 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,999 So I finally looked at him and said, 803 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,999 "Come on, just tell us who you are." 804 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,999 And he said, "I'm BTK." 805 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,999 BTK had killed seven people, including two children. 806 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,999 He was taunting law enforcement with clues, 807 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,999 but police were no closer to discovering his identity. 808 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,999 Although he left his DNA at two murder scenes, 809 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,999 DNA testing and tracing did not yet exist, 810 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,999 so the killing would go on . .. until a stunning twist 811 00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,999 that would finally end the terror. 812 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,999 That's in part two of "BTK." 813 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,999 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 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