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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:07,999 ?? 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,999 Larry King: What did you get out of it? 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,999 David: Nothing. 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,999 I just, like, felt I had no mind. 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:16,999 [Gunshot] 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,999 I felt something else was controlling ... 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:20,999 controlling me. 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:30,999 ?? 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:37,999 ?? 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:45,999 ?? 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,560 Welcome to "Very Scary People." 12 00:00:47,561 --> 00:00:48,999 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,999 Between July of 1976 and June of 1977, 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,000 David Berkowitz was busy making nightmares a reality, 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,999 maiming or killing 11 innocent victims. 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,999 Certain he was targeting long-haired brunettes, 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,999 women began cutting and coloring their hair. 18 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,999 Couples avoided going out. 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,999 All to escape being attacked by the Son of Sam. 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,999 Panic in New York City was mounting. 21 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,999 Where and when would the killer strike next? 22 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:16,999 Police had no real leads. 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,999 Then, finally, a mistake puts an end to the terror. 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,000 This is part two of "Son Of Sam: I am a Monster." 25 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,999 ?? 26 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,999 Reporter: He struck in the dark of night, 27 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,999 popping out of the shadows in the Bronx and Queens. 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:37,999 [Gunshot] 29 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,999 Kamen: There was nothing that told them the killer 30 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,999 was about to do open fire on them, 31 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:42,999 and he did. 32 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,999 [Gunshots] 33 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,999 Man: A killer made his way from one dark street 34 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,999 to another without a face and name, without an identity. 35 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,050 He was an M.O. 36 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,999 Everyone agreed that it was a young white male 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,999 between 25 and 30 years old, about 6 feet tall. 38 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:00,999 Borrelli: "I am a monster." 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,999 Kamen: "I am the Son of Sam." 40 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,999 It scared the shit out of 7 million people 41 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,999 that lived in the city. 42 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,999 Reporter #2: Young people stopped sitting in cars, 43 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:11,999 stopped going out, 44 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,999 or went out only when they absolutely had to. 45 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:15,999 Everybody was afraid. 46 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Because they really don't know 47 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,999 where he's going to turn up next. 48 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,000 He captivated this city for an entire year. 49 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,999 So, who was this monster 50 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,999 that was stalking the city of New York? 51 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,999 David: I knew it was wrong, 52 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,999 but when a mind is captured by Satan, 53 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,999 you can't look at things and evaluate things 54 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,999 in their right perspective. 55 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,000 He was adopted by Pearl and Nathan Berkowitz. 56 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,999 He seemed to have a relatively normal childhood at first, 57 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,999 but then behavioral issues started to bubble up. 58 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:58,999 His adoptive mother died of cancer when he was 14. 59 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,999 Interviewer: What was that like for you? 60 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:01,999 David: Completely devastating. 61 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:07,999 ?? 62 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:13,999 Jordan: June 26, 1977, Judy Placido, 17 years old, 63 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,999 and Salvatore Lupo. 64 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,999 They had gone out to a disco in Queens. 65 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,999 At the end of the night, they walked back to the car 66 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,999 and got inside. 67 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,999 They were actually talking about the murders happening 68 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,000 and how scary it was, and then it hit them. 69 00:03:32,001 --> 00:03:34,999 Klausner: The same thing that's happened before ... 70 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,999 a figure walks up, takes a shooting stance, and bang! 71 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,999 [Gunshots] 72 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,999 That particular night, my partner and myself, 73 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:45,999 we were just a couple of blocks away. 74 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,999 And by the time we got there, it was said and done. 75 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,999 He's evaded capture. 76 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:52,999 Jordan: Even though Judy and Sal survived, 77 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,999 they really couldn't provide any description to the police. 78 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,999 Police, once again, were stumped. 79 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:04,999 Those things create an image that he will not be caught. 80 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,999 The police cannot see him. 81 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,999 He is a wisp of smoke that just dissipates into the air. 82 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,999 King: So, there was no plan 83 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:14,999 on how I'm gonna get away with this? 84 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:15,999 David: No. 85 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,999 No plan to deceive? No, no. 86 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,999 I was just a real mess. 87 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:27,999 ?? 88 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,999 Klausner: The police really have nothing to go on. 89 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,999 Is there going to be another shooting? 90 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,999 Of course, the police knew there would be. 91 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,999 More police officers are assigned, 92 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,999 Queens and the Bronx, but he won't strike there again. 93 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,999 Now he will strike in Brooklyn. 94 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:49,999 ?? 95 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,999 Jordan: On July 31, 1977, 96 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,999 Robert Violante and Stacy Moskowitz 97 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,999 were out on a date in Brooklyn. 98 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,999 Kamen: Stacy's mom, Neysa Moskowitz, said, 99 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,999 "You be careful tonight, sweetheart." 100 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,000 The warning could not prevent the nightmare. 101 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Stacy's response was, "Mom, I'm a blonde." 102 00:05:10,121 --> 00:05:14,999 Jordan: At the end of their night, they drove down to a park 103 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,999 underneath the Verrazzano Bridge, 104 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,999 which was a well-known lovers' lane. 105 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,999 They were in an area where couples would park. 106 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,999 Jordan: They got out of the car 107 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:26,999 and walked over to the swing set. 108 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:34,000 ?? 109 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,000 But they saw a man watching them.. 110 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,999 ...and decided to return to the car. 111 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,999 Klausner: And at that moment, the shooting occurs. 112 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,999 Whoever would have been in that particular spot 113 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,999 would have gotten killed. 114 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,999 It was my daughter's unfortunate luck 115 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,999 to have been there. 116 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,000 He approached the car, and he fired through the window. 117 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,999 [Gunshots] 118 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,999 Woman: He was covered with blood, 119 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,999 and the girl was covered with blood. 120 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,999 It was a horror. 121 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,999 Just started screaming, just screaming and screaming. 122 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:14,999 Stacy Moskowitz was transported to the hospital, where she died. 123 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,999 And Robert Violante was shot and blinded for life. 124 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,999 I lost something very dear to me. 125 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,999 Great kid. 126 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,999 Kamen: You have to really feel for the cops on this. 127 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:29,999 They're waiting for something 128 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,999 that will let them put things together. 129 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,999 They want to stop the killer. They have to stop the killer. 130 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,999 Collarini-Schlossberg: Inevitably, 131 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:38,999 killers make mistakes. 132 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,000 And so did the Son of Sam. 133 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,999 It seems that David Berkowitz had looked into his background 134 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,999 shortly before he started his killing spree. 135 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,999 He wants to find out more about his birth family. 136 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,999 Klausner: David had this idealistic view 137 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,999 of what his real mother and father would be like. 138 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,999 And, unfortunately, he isn't happy with what he finds out. 139 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,999 David: My parents told me, 140 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,999 I think when I was around 5 or 6 years old, 141 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:13,999 that I was adopted. 142 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,999 I really had a hard time with that 143 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,999 because my parents, meaning well 144 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,999 and probably under the instruction of other people, 145 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,999 were told to tell me that my mom had died 146 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,999 while giving birth to me 147 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,999 and that my dad couldn't care for me, 148 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,999 so he put me up for adoption. 149 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:31,999 Interviewer: But that wasn't true, was it? 150 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,999 No. 151 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,999 Jordan: His father, Nate, finally told him the truth. 152 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,999 His mother hadn't actually died in childbirth. 153 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,999 David: I think now, looking back in retrospect, 154 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,999 there was times I had a lot of guilt 155 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,999 because I thought that somehow, in some way, 156 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,000 I was responsible for the death of my mom. 157 00:07:50,001 --> 00:07:52,999 I see it did cause a lot of difficulty in my life. 158 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,000 I had internal struggles over that issue. 159 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,999 David was actually born to Betty Falco. 160 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,999 David is a baby out of wedlock. 161 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,999 She had had an affair. 162 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:09,999 Her pregnancy with David 163 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,000 was, in fact, a product of the affair. 164 00:08:12,001 --> 00:08:13,999 But even more disturbing to David 165 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,999 was the fact that Betty had a daughter named Roslyn, 166 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,999 13 years older, that she had never given up. 167 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,999 And he went to great length 168 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,999 to search out his natural family. 169 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,999 And he actually met his natural mother, 170 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,999 his sister, and her children. 171 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:37,999 And they had, at one point, you know, a nice relationship. 172 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,999 And then, ultimately, he felt greatly rejected 173 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,000 by his natural mother, Betty, 174 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:50,999 because although she retained and cared for his sister, 175 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,999 she chose to give him away. 176 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,999 Jordan: This would cause 177 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,220 a deep-seated and harboring rage within him. 178 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,999 The psychiatrists found the interaction 179 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,999 with the birth mother 180 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,999 and his older sister quite significant 181 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,999 in terms of what may have led him to kill. 182 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,999 These are all very powerful experiences 183 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,999 in the life of someone who feels inadequate to begin with. 184 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,999 The abandonment by his mother, 185 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,999 the death of his adoptive mother, 186 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,999 the fact that he never had a girlfriend ... 187 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,999 all of these negative experiences 188 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,999 really bubbled up into a rage 189 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,999 where he wanted to get back at women. 190 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,999 At that point, he was certainly delusional. 191 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,999 And I think his delusions pushed him in the direction 192 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,999 of these horrible crimes. 193 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:48,999 And very shortly after, will start out on this rampage. 194 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,000 When David Berkowitz aimed and shot 195 00:09:51,001 --> 00:09:52,999 each of those young women, 196 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,999 he is symbolically killing every woman 197 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,999 who has ever rejected him or let him down. 198 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,050 [Gunshot] 199 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:06,000 ?? 200 00:10:07,781 --> 00:10:11,999 [Siren wailing, horns honking in distance] 201 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:21,999 ?? 202 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:31,999 ?? 203 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:32,999 ?? 204 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,999 He looked me straight in the face, he looked at my dog. 205 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,999 And right here... 206 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,999 we crossed each other. 207 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,999 Cecilia Davis didn't like the look of this guy, 208 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:45,999 so she hurried home. 209 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,999 And just as she got inside her house and closed the door, 210 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,999 she heard the rain of bullets... [Gunshots] 211 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:56,999 ...the shooting that took the lives of Robert and Stacy. 212 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,999 She told the police about this strange man 213 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,999 she saw just before the shooting, 214 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,999 and she remembered something else. 215 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,999 Justus: On the night of the Moskowitz shooting, 216 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,000 she saw the police officers issuing a summons to a car. 217 00:11:10,001 --> 00:11:12,999 It was right next to the hydrant by her home. 218 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:21,999 ?? 219 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,999 So, the first thing you do is you pull all the summonses 220 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:26,999 that are issued. 221 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,050 Boring? Yeah. 222 00:11:28,051 --> 00:11:29,999 But it's something that had to be done. 223 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,120 Jordan: There could be other witnesses besides Cecilia Davis 224 00:11:33,121 --> 00:11:35,999 who could give them a clue as to who the shooter is. 225 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,999 Breslin: But the police looked for the ticket, 226 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,680 and they couldn't find the ticket. 227 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,940 There was a thought that maybe there was no summons served, 228 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,999 but she was so positive of it. 229 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:45,999 Where is it? 230 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,000 I found out who the police officer was 231 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,999 that had that sector, called him on the phone, 232 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,999 and I asked him, you know, "Did you issue a summons?" 233 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,050 And he said, "Yes." 234 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,999 And I asked him, "Well, why wasn't the summons turned in?" 235 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,999 He said the chaos that night . .. when somebody gets shot, 236 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,999 the last thing you're thinking about is that stupid summons. 237 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,999 And he just forgot about it, 238 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,999 and he stuck the summons in his hat. 239 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,999 The patrolman who wrote the ticket didn't submit the ticket. 240 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,000 He put it in his locker for a couple of days. 241 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,999 Again, this whole thing is going towards a possible witness. 242 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,999 I went in and I looked in his summons receipt book. 243 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:33,999 They found four that were handed out that night by the police. 244 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,999 Kamen: And there's a parking ticket for a vehicle 245 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,999 that isn't even a New York City vehicle. 246 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,999 It's from this northern suburb, Yonkers. 247 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,999 Klausner: From a car that was parked 248 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,999 at a fire hydrant, a Ford Galaxy, 249 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,999 to someone named David Berkowitz. 250 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,999 Max: They're looking at this and thinking, 251 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,999 "What is this guy, you know, from Yonkers, 252 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,999 you know, doing in Brooklyn, in that neighborhood?" 253 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,999 It just seemed out of place. 254 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,000 There is a higher power, as they say. 255 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,999 So, Justus picks up the phone, and he calls the Yonkers P.D. 256 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,999 and a very pleasant woman answers the phone. 257 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,999 Thank God the person on the switchboard 258 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,999 was Wheat Carr. 259 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,999 Jordan: Wheat Carr was the daughter 260 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,999 of Yonkers resident Sam Carr. 261 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:25,999 Over the previous year, 262 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,999 the Carr family had been harassed by somebody. 263 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,999 They had a dog named Harvey, and Harvey would bark. 264 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:32,999 [Dog barking] 265 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,999 The harasser sent threatening letters 266 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,999 complaining about Sam's barking dog, 267 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,999 threw a Molotov cocktail into their yard. 268 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,999 And one night, the person shoots their dog. 269 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,999 The Carr family had figured out 270 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:51,000 that the person doing it was their neighbor, David Berkowitz. 271 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,999 So when Detective Justus calls Yonkers to look into Berkowitz 272 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,999 as a possible witness to the Moskowitz murder, 273 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,999 by complete coincidence, Wheat Carr picks up the phone 274 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,999 because she just so happens 275 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,999 to be a dispatcher for the Yonkers P.D. 276 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:13,999 It was being at the right place at the right time, so to speak. 277 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,999 And as soon as I mentioned David Berkowitz, 278 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,999 she said, "Let me tell you about him. 279 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,999 I know him." 280 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,999 He lived in the apartment house 281 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,000 directly behind where her and her father lived. 282 00:14:27,001 --> 00:14:28,999 She then related a story 283 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,999 about her black Labrador retriever 284 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,999 being shot by Berkowitz, 285 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,999 and the fact that Berkowitz was strange. 286 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,999 Clark: He says, "He shot your father's dog?" 287 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:40,999 "Yeah." 288 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,999 "What's your name?" "Wheat." 289 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,999 In one of the letters, he had said, "Wheaties." 290 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,999 "Okay, what's your dad's name?" "Sam." 291 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,999 "Sam?!" 292 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,999 And every great detective has instinct. 293 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,999 I went back to my command, and my inspector was there. 294 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,999 And he said, "Well, how'd it go?" 295 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,999 And I said to him, "I think we got the guy." 296 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,999 Collarini-Schlossberg: And the next step was to set him up 297 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,999 so that they could make an arrest. 298 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:18,999 ?? 299 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,999 Jordan: On August 10, 1977, 300 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,999 NYPD detectives take a road trip up to Yonkers, New York, 301 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,999 and coordinate a stakeout on that Ford Galaxy. 302 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,999 It's parked right outside of David Berkowitz's apartment. 303 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,999 And they looked in the car. 304 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,999 Clark: And they see a duffel bag with a gun sticking out of it, 305 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,999 and this letter in that Son of Sam handwriting. 306 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:48,999 So, what they did was, they set up a surveillance on the car. 307 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,999 And they wait. 308 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,999 Jordan: Sure enough, about 10:00 p.m. that night, 309 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,999 a white, heavyset man with dark hair 310 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,000 comes out and approaches the car. 311 00:16:00,001 --> 00:16:03,999 Coffey: He's got a brown paper bag in his hand. 312 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,000 He puts it on the car seat. 313 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:13,999 Within seconds, police have surrounded the vehicle. 314 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:14,999 He says, "Put your hands on the dashboard, 315 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,000 turn the ignition off," which he does. 316 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,999 He immediately said, "You got me." 317 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,999 And they said, "Who do we got?" 318 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,999 He said, "I'm the Son of Sam." 319 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,999 He's just smiling at them. 320 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,999 He gives himself right up. 321 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,999 In the bag on the front seat of the car, 322 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,000 was the .44-caliber gun that killed all those people. 323 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,999 Game over. 324 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,999 Reporter #2: This is the man police say 325 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:44,999 is the .44-caliber killer. 326 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,999 Young, dark-haired, almost chubby. 327 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,999 When he came into the building, 328 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,999 we all had the same reaction ... 329 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,999 how ordinary-looking this guy was. 330 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:02,999 I think his appearance was almost startling to people. 331 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,999 All along, we think we're gonna find this screaming, crazy guy. 332 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,999 He was a regular Joe. 333 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,999 He had a big smile on his face. 334 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,999 He was almost enjoying the fuss, the excitement. 335 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:24,000 ?? 336 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,999 I am very pleased to announce that the people 337 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,999 of the city of New York can rest easy this morning. 338 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,999 Police have captured a man whom they believe 339 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,999 to be the Son of Sam. 340 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:44,999 Kamen: I was at the press conference. 341 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,999 You can imagine what this moment is like 342 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,999 across the entire New York City police department. 343 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,999 Oh, I was elated. It was a wonderful feeling. 344 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,999 Hopkins: People were in the streets. They were partying. 345 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:59,000 And it was all over the radio, TV. 346 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,999 David Berkowitz, when arrested ... 347 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,999 24-year-old guy, was working at the post office. 348 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,999 People who knew him said, "I would have had no idea." 349 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,999 Hopkins: We went to the post office, where he worked, 350 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,999 and they're all in disbelief. 351 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,999 Max: He had been escorting some of his young female colleagues 352 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,999 to walk to their cars because of this mass murderer on the loose. 353 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,999 Hopkins: One fellow says, "Well, every morning, 354 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,440 he would have the newspaper." 355 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,100 And at that time, this was in the newspaper 356 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,999 every day, front page. 357 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,980 And he would turn around and say to them, 358 00:18:43,981 --> 00:18:44,999 "I hope we get this son of a bitch." 359 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,999 To me, that was ... that was crazy. 360 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,999 ?? 361 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,040 Klausner: They bring him to New York City 362 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,999 to the chief of detective's office. 363 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,999 Borrelli: We stuck him in a room all by himself, 364 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,999 and all the detectives that had a case went in, interviewed him. 365 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,999 Hopkins: We all had a shot at him, questioning. 366 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:09,999 It was an eerie feeling, 367 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,999 'cause here's the conclusion of all that we did, 368 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000 and it's in front of us. 369 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,999 David just tells them everything. 370 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,000 He went through each of the killings. 371 00:19:21,001 --> 00:19:22,999 He knew every detail. 372 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,999 He knew how he shot every victim. 373 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,999 He knew the conditions of the street. 374 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,999 He knew where he shot the victims. 375 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,999 He knew what part of the body he shot them in. 376 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,999 He's very nonchalant, sometimes a little bit of a smirk, 377 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,999 which kind of unnerved you a little bit. 378 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,999 He was so proud of what he had done, that he was so famous, 379 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,999 and he couldn't wait to tell everybody about it. 380 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,000 He was, frankly, as he told me, greatly relieved. 381 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,999 Jordan: In his confessions to police 382 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,999 and subsequent interviews, 383 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,999 David Berkowitz would provide the details 384 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,000 that would shed light on each of those individual killings. 385 00:20:00,001 --> 00:20:02,999 One of the first shootings, he said that, 386 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,000 "I saw the two girls in a car. 387 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,999 I went around the block. 388 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:09,999 There was my sign. 389 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,999 There's this beautiful parking space. 390 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,999 I pulled right into the parking space, walked up, shot them... 391 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:15,999 [Gunshots] 392 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,999 ...got back in the car, and drove away." 393 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,000 A spot to park his car was what got these girls shot. 394 00:20:22,561 --> 00:20:24,999 Jordan: After the second one... 395 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,999 [Gunshots] 396 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,999 ...he pulled over at a White Castle hamburger restaurant 397 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:31,999 and had a meal. 398 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:39,999 ?? 399 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,380 There were a number of times 400 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,999 when we learned through the interviewing process 401 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,999 that Berkowitz had gone out perhaps intending to shoot 402 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,999 but did not. 403 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,999 Clark: He was out every night, driving around, 404 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,999 waiting for something 405 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,999 that triggered him to go shoot somebody. 406 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,999 Hopkins: He probably traveled 400, 500 miles 407 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,999 from one borough to another, 408 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,000 and he was just searching out victims. 409 00:21:05,001 --> 00:21:06,999 It was all opportunistic. 410 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,999 Heller: There was never a specific rhyme or reason. 411 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:12,999 It was just random shootings. 412 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,999 [Gunshots] 413 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,999 He told me that his primary object was the female. 414 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:19,999 [Gunshot] 415 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,999 And of course, in those days, 416 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,999 young men wore their hair kind of long, 417 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,400 so you didn't know whether you were necessarily 418 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,999 shooting a male or a female. 419 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,999 In some instances, the men were hit, also. 420 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,999 Klausner: He was embarrassed that he even shot at men, 421 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,999 because that wasn't his objective. 422 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:36,999 [Gunshots] 423 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,999 ?? 424 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,100 There were some stories, unfortunately, 425 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,999 where they just missed the killer. 426 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,999 There was a code put out, the 44 code. 427 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,999 When that happened, the bridges were going to be manned 428 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,999 by police officers after a shooting incident. 429 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,999 There were two policewomen guarding the tollbooths. 430 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,999 The killer was in the third car to come. 431 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,999 The gun was on the seat next to him. 432 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:09,999 The two police decided 433 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,999 they weren't gonna have any business tonight, 434 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,999 and they left just as the cars were pulling up. 435 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,999 And he would have been stopped right there. 436 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:28,999 ?? 437 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,999 In 1975, at Christmastime, 438 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,999 David decides it's time for blood. 439 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:43,999 So he accosts a young lady on a footbridge 440 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,999 that spans a parkway in the Bronx. 441 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,999 He described stabbing her multiple times. 442 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:51,999 Collarini-Schlossberg: He thought that that was going to 443 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,999 be 444 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,999 an easy way to kill a person. 445 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,999 He apparently had some ideas from TV shows 446 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,000 that the person was just going to get stabbed, 447 00:23:03,001 --> 00:23:04,999 collapse, and die. 448 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,000 And instead, this particular woman fought back. 449 00:23:09,001 --> 00:23:10,999 She starts to scream. 450 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:11,999 [Screaming] 451 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,999 And that disturbs him. 452 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:21,999 ?? 453 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:27,999 ?? 454 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:28,999 Max: She didn't die. 455 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,999 There was a little bit of panic that he described, 456 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:36,999 with a knife actually going into another human being's flesh. 457 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,999 Borrelli: He ran away. I guess then after that, 458 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:40,999 he decided he was gonna use a gun. 459 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,999 Collarini-Schlossberg: He really didn't want there 460 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,999 to be too much of a messy scene for him. 461 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,999 He wanted to do it, get it done, and go away. 462 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,000 He had a friend purchase him the gun down in Texas. 463 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:58,999 He will go to another state, get a straw purchase of a handgun, 464 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,999 and come back to New York and start a shooting spree 465 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,999 where you can shoot from a distance. 466 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,999 It's less personal, in the same vein. 467 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:16,000 ?? 468 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,999 ?? 469 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,000 Welcome back to "Very Scary People." 470 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,999 After his arrest in 1977, 471 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,999 David Berkowitz readily admitted to police 472 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,999 that he was the man they'd been searching for ... 473 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,999 the serial killer known as the Son of Sam. 474 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,999 The city was relieved to get him off the streets. 475 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,999 And it couldn't have happened at a better time. 476 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,999 On the night of his arrest, 477 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,999 Berkowitz was allegedly going out to kill again. 478 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,999 This time, headed to a nightclub in Long Island, 479 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,999 where he planned to carry out a mass shooting. 480 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,999 But there were still many questions that remained. 481 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,999 In the first interrogation and confession, 482 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,999 investigators asked the question everyone wanted to know ... 483 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000 Why did he kill? 484 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,999 Kamen: David Berkowitz told the police 485 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,999 that it really wasn't his fault. 486 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,999 He was doing the bidding of a powerful demon 487 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,999 that was speaking to him through his neighbor Sam Carr's dog. 488 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:21,999 He fixates on this Carr family mainly because of the dog. 489 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,999 The dog kept howling and waking him up. 490 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,999 And caused him a great deal of sleep deprivation. 491 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,999 Jordan: He said that the dog barking 492 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:31,999 was sending him a message 493 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,999 from a 6,000-year-old man named Sam 494 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,999 and telling him that he had to go out and kill. 495 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,999 Kamen: And so he was the Son of Sam. 496 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:40,999 That's what he called himself, 497 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,999 because he said the demon told him to do it. 498 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,999 David: I had nothing against these victims. 499 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,380 Who were these people to me? 500 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,999 They were just people. I wasn't angry against them. 501 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,999 Interviewer: Then why'd you do it? 502 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,999 Well, Sam did it through me. 503 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:56,999 He used me. 504 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:57,999 He made me go out there and do it. 505 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,999 He ... I did it for him, for blood. 506 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,999 Klausner: It was pure chance. 507 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,999 It wasn't a calculated thing. 508 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,999 The demons would tell him, "Hey, this is the one. 509 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,000 Do it." 510 00:26:11,001 --> 00:26:12,999 Heller: David clearly, 511 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,999 at the time these crimes were committed, 512 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,999 had a very reduced mental state. 513 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,999 The best word I could use is delusional. 514 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,999 He had delusions about everything around him. 515 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:34,999 ?? 516 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:42,999 ?? 517 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,999 Klausner: When the police got into his apartment, 518 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,000 they found something they were not ready for. 519 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,999 His apartment shows a tormented soul. 520 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,999 He kind of closed up his apartment 521 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,999 and put curtains over the windows 522 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,000 and really isolated himself. 523 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,999 Max: One entire wall of Berkowitz's apartment 524 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,999 was covered in ... 525 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,999 I will use the word "bizarre" ... writings. 526 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,000 There were writings about Sam Carr. 527 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,999 A lot of writings about Satan. 528 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:24,999 There were the writings for the demons, 529 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,999 where they lived, who they were. 530 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,999 There was actually a hole in the wall. 531 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,999 He said somebody lived in that hole. 532 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,999 Hopkins: Sometimes he'd go home without finding anybody, 533 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,999 and that depressed him. 534 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,999 And then the hole in the wall would respond to say, 535 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,100 "Well, you have to go out and do this again." 536 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,999 [Gunshot] 537 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,000 Who does that? 538 00:27:51,301 --> 00:27:55,999 Reporter #3: Today, Berkowitz's 68-year-old father 539 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,000 held an emotional news conference to try to explain, 540 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,999 to try to reach out to those his son allegedly hurt. 541 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,000 I will live with this heartache for the rest of my life. 542 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:26,000 ?? 543 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:36,000 ?? 544 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:42,999 ?? 545 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:49,999 ?? 546 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,999 Reporter 4: Berkowitz was brought to court 547 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:53,999 in an 8-vehicle motorcade. 548 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,999 David and I went to the Supreme Court in Kings County, 549 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,999 where an arraignment was conducted. 550 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,999 There must have been literally over 551 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,000 3,000 media people from all over the world. 552 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,999 Would there be a trial? Would he be set free? 553 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,000 There were 101 questions. 554 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,999 Heller: What surprised me was how calm he was. 555 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,999 Usually people are very erratic. 556 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,999 They can become violent at times. 557 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,999 But he was very friendly, very cordial, 558 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,999 and at that point, very contrite. 559 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:42,999 I found him to be very, very bright, very perceptive, 560 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,999 actually brilliant. 561 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:51,000 I guess there's a very thin line between insanity and genius. 562 00:29:51,541 --> 00:29:55,999 First order of business then became determining 563 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,999 whether or not he was competent to stand trial. 564 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,999 I felt for sure they would just put him in a nuthouse 565 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,999 and that'd be the end of it. 566 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,999 Max: It was clear from the letters that he had written 567 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,999 that he had a disordered mind. 568 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,000 Under the law, a person who is legally incompetent 569 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,000 cannot be tried. 570 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,999 Eventually, he has to go in for evaluation, which he did. 571 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,999 Max: The outward appearance of Mr. Berkowitz was normal. 572 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,999 And in responding to the psychiatrists, 573 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:39,000 for the most part, he sounded, I'll use the word "rational." 574 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,999 However, when questioned about the killings and about why, 575 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,999 what he was articulating was what those first doctors 576 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,999 called a fixed delusional structure. 577 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,000 "I did this because the demons on Earth, 578 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,999 speaking through Sam Carr's dog, 579 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,999 were telling me they needed blood." 580 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,050 [Gunshot] 581 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,999 That was how he articulated to the doctors 582 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,999 why he killed. 583 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,999 Reporter #5: Their opinion, that Berkowitz is not competent 584 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,999 to help his lawyers or understand the proceedings, 585 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,999 not competent to stand trial. 586 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,999 Max: Reality was, there was no way, 587 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,999 given the intense pressures on the district attorneys, 588 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,999 the terror that the city had suffered, 589 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,999 that a finding of incompetence 590 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,999 was going to be acceptable to the powers that be. 591 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,999 He simply killed too many people, 592 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:37,999 and they couldn't let that go by. 593 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,999 If you spoke to him for 30 seconds, 594 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:40,999 you could see he was crazy, 595 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,999 but there were too many dead bodies around, 596 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,999 and somebody had to account for them. 597 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,999 So they put another psychiatrist in. 598 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,999 Max: Brooklyn D.A.'s office hired Dr. David Abrahamsen. 599 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,999 Abrahamsen says, "Well, look at the way 600 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,999 in which he is able to talk to us about everything." 601 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,999 Collarini-Schlossberg: This was someone 602 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:01,999 who knew what he was doing. 603 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,999 He was smart enough to come up with a psychological discussion 604 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,999 to explain away his crimes by making us think 605 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,999 that he was some kind of mentally ill psychotic person. 606 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,999 But one of the things that we know about people 607 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,999 who commit an offense like this is you can't be a madman 608 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,999 and do the kind of planning and execution 609 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,000 that a man like this did. 610 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,999 Max: Abrahamsen said Berkowitz was not lacking in capacity. 611 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,999 He thought that he was actually malingering. 612 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,999 "He can control his actions, 613 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:36,999 because he tells me that on occasion, 614 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,999 he would go out and would not kill." 615 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,999 And on the basis of that, 616 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,000 David was found competent to stand trial. 617 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,999 He could have gone to trial and tried the insanity defense. 618 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,999 His lawyers believed that he should try to claim it. 619 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,999 Max: But the next month or so, 620 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,999 the doctors at the hospital allowed a minister to see him, 621 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,999 and David has converted to Christianity. 622 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:09,999 Well, what happened ... 623 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,999 Berkowitz says, "I am going to plead guilty. 624 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,999 I'm not going to use an insanity defense, 625 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,999 because I'm going to be giving credence to these demons, 626 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,999 and I can't do that, and Jesus has saved me." 627 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,999 I just wanted to end it, 628 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:26,999 and I was just so distraught. 629 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,999 I just confessed and pled guilty 630 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,999 and got it over with. 631 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,999 They consolidated all the cases, 632 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,999 had him come in and enter a guilty plea. 633 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,999 Then it just became a matter of sentencing after that. 634 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:49,999 ?? 635 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,999 Max: What ultimately happened with Berkowitz is, 636 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,999 sentencing was set maybe 10 days later 637 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,999 and a very disturbing scene occurred. 638 00:33:59,000 --> 00:33:59,999 [Siren wailing] 639 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,999 Reporter #6: There was no hint of trouble to come 640 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,999 as Berkowitz was driven to court in an armored van. 641 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,999 But once inside, a struggle broke out on the 7th floor. 642 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,999 Berkowitz said he didn't want to be sentenced. 643 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,999 He kicked and bit some of five officers trying to move him. 644 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,999 Two officers were hurt, but not seriously, 645 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,999 before Berkowitz was finally subdued. 646 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,999 In court, spectators waited. 647 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:23,999 When Berkowitz was brought in, 648 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,999 it was evident he was still agitated, 649 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,999 wild-eyed in handcuffs. 650 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,999 And the moment he hits the center of the courtroom, 651 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,999 he starts to singsong chant. 652 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,999 Reporter #6: Shouting repeatedly, 653 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,999 "Stacy was a whore! I'd kill her again!" 654 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,999 Kamen: It's one of the few times in my career 655 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,999 I wanted to get up and attack a person who was speaking. 656 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,999 Max: He had to be wrestled down 657 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,999 and dragged out of the courtroom. 658 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,999 It was a very chilling scene, 659 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:53,999 and I'm sure it was quite disturbing 660 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,999 to the families of the victims, and the victims who were present 661 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,999 to see the surface veneer of normal appearance disappear 662 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,999 and be replaced by something scary. 663 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,999 I believe that David Berkowitz 664 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,999 was a profoundly disturbed human being. 665 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,999 To me, his appearance in court just locked it in. 666 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,000 This is a guy who killed because he hated women. 667 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,999 Ultimately, he was sentenced to a number of sentences 668 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,999 of 25 years to life. 669 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,999 It's 25 to life for each of the 6 victims. 670 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,999 The maximum for each of the crimes committed. 671 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,999 Jordan: Plus additional time for attempted murders 672 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:36,999 of his other victims. 673 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,999 I don't have a whole lot of hate and anger, 674 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,999 possibly because I'm still alive. 675 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,999 But I certainly don't ... I don't forgive him. 676 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,000 I would've liked more to have happened to him. 677 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,999 The electric chair, for instance. 678 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:55,000 ?? 679 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:05,999 ?? 680 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,999 When I first came to prison, I was very suicidal. 681 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,999 And I was disgusted with my life. 682 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,999 I was angry at a lot of people. 683 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,000 I saw no hope. 684 00:36:19,001 --> 00:36:21,999 Can you tell us what happened to your neck? 685 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,999 Uh... It's so obvious. 686 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,999 That's a nasty scar. Yeah. 687 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,999 In 1979, another inmate ... 688 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,999 I guess to make a name for himself ... 689 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,999 tried to take my life. 690 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,999 And he stuck me when I wasn't looking with a razor 691 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000 and opened up the whole side of my neck. 692 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,999 ?? 693 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:52,999 ?? 694 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,999 David admitted that he was a fraud. 695 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,999 Jordan: He said he made the whole thing up, 696 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,999 that he was just lying and malingering 697 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:01,999 with that "Son of Sam" 698 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,999 and the barking dog telling him to kill. 699 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,999 That he knew what he was doing and he knew that it was wrong. 700 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,999 Collarini-Schlossberg: And that his effort to look like 701 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,999 a psychologically deranged person 702 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:13,999 was part of his facade 703 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,999 to excuse the behaviors that he did. 704 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,999 [Gunshot] 705 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,000 This was not the demons in his head. 706 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,000 This was his own psychological disturbance. 707 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,999 Later, he would insist that he did not act alone, 708 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,000 that he was actually acting on behest of a satanic cult 709 00:37:37,001 --> 00:37:38,999 and they forced him to do these things 710 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,999 and there were other people who conspired with him 711 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:42,999 and were part of the shootings. 712 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,999 You were sort of satanically involved? 713 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,999 Yes, I was. 714 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,000 It was the worst mistake of my life. 715 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,999 I was lonely. I was looking for companionship. 716 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,999 There's never been any evidence to support 717 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,999 that there were other people involved. 718 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:04,000 He'll say at the moment what he feels people want to hear. 719 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,999 What kind of work do you do? 720 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,999 I work in the mental health unit. 721 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,999 And I'm there as, like, a peer counselor 722 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,999 for the men that have emotional problems. 723 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,999 Do you get psychiatric counseling? 724 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,999 No, I don't. No. 725 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,999 The Department of Corrections has given me 726 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,999 a clean bill of health. 727 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,999 After spending time in prison, 728 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,999 David became pretty much a born-again Christian. 729 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:39,999 During his time in jail, an inmate befriended David 730 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,000 and he started to introduce him to the Bible. 731 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,999 David: Prison is not easy, but over the years, 732 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,999 God has given me a lot of strength 733 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,999 and a lot of hope to make it and to endure and to survive. 734 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,940 Glassman: He even changed his nickname and his whole image 735 00:38:56,941 --> 00:38:58,999 to the Son of Hope instead of the Son of Sam. 736 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,999 I feel that God has completely forgiven me, 737 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,000 and he's taught me how to forgive myself. 738 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,999 Have you ever had to deal with relatives 739 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:11,999 of the victims directly? 740 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,999 What would you say? 741 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,050 That I'm sorry. 742 00:39:16,051 --> 00:39:17,999 Neysa, I understand he ... this guy Berkowitz ... 743 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:18,999 actually sends ... 744 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,999 has sent you a card on Mother's Day? 745 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:21,999 He has written you letters. 746 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,999 I have many letters from him. 747 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:24,999 Do you believe he's a changed man? 748 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,999 I mean, he says he's found God in prison. 749 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:28,999 Do you think that's some sort of bid, 750 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,999 maybe holding out hope that he might get parole someday? 751 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,999 No, he makes me feel like stone inside of me. 752 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,999 He's an animal. 753 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:38,999 King: You're gonna be here 754 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:39,999 the rest of your life, right? 755 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:40,999 David: That's right. 756 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,999 I'm doing consecutive life sentences 757 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,999 totaling more than 300 years. 758 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:46,999 What do you do with something like that? 759 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,999 Larry, believe it or not, 760 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,999 I have learned to just be content and accept the fact. 761 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,999 Klausner: He comes up every two years for parole 762 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,999 and doesn't even ask for a hearing now. 763 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,999 Heller: When I spoke to David and discussed the legal approach 764 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,999 that we could take to get him released, 765 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,999 he basically said to me, "I'm okay. 766 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,000 I've already been freed by a greater spirit." 767 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:23,999 I don't want to sound harsh, but they all suddenly find God 768 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,999 and, "Now I'm a changed person." 769 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,999 Some of them may have. I don't believe he did. 770 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,999 I would love to think that he's suffering 771 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,999 every minute of his time there. 772 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,999 But I also think he should have been eradicated. 773 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,000 You notice, every interview of that son of a gun ... 774 00:40:44,001 --> 00:40:45,999 Never mentions the killings. 775 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,999 All he talks about is, "I've changed, I help others." 776 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,000 He doesn't talk about the dead. 777 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,999 He should die right where he is. 778 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,000 That's a terrible thing to say, but that's how I feel about him. 779 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:21,999 ?? 780 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,999 Interestingly, one other thing found in Berkowitz's apartment 781 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,999 was a journal with detailed dates and times of fires ... 782 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,999 Fires that some people believe he set himself. 783 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,999 Was the serial killer also an arsonist? 784 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,999 It's one mystery that we may never know. 785 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,999 Oddly, over time, some people started to believe the "Sam" 786 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:42,999 in "Son of Sam" 787 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,999 was the name of the dog 788 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,860 that allegedly tormented Berkowitz 789 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,680 and gave him his murderous orders. 790 00:41:48,681 --> 00:41:50,999 But it was actually the dog's owner, Sam, 791 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,999 that helped give the serial killer his moniker. 792 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,999 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 793 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,999 Thanks for watching. 794 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,000 Good night. 795 00:41:59,050 --> 00:42:03,600 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 61115

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