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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,500 --> 00:00:07,920 ?? 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,330 Jordan: When he decides to actually prey on a victim, 3 00:00:12,417 --> 00:00:13,877 he's already done his homework. 4 00:00:13,959 --> 00:00:16,579 The fantasy is already alive and well 5 00:00:16,667 --> 00:00:18,707 and reeling through his head. 6 00:00:18,792 --> 00:00:20,332 So when he is assaulting her, 7 00:00:20,417 --> 00:00:21,747 he doesn't think he's raping her. 8 00:00:21,834 --> 00:00:23,794 He thinks he's just living out a fantasy 9 00:00:23,876 --> 00:00:27,126 and that she is an active and willing participant. 10 00:00:27,209 --> 00:00:37,629 ?? 11 00:00:39,459 --> 00:00:49,919 ?? 12 00:00:51,584 --> 00:00:53,634 Welcome to "very scary people." 13 00:00:53,709 --> 00:00:55,289 I'm Donnie wahlberg. 14 00:00:55,375 --> 00:00:57,825 The norcal rapist wears a ski mask. 15 00:00:57,918 --> 00:00:59,828 He is armed with knives and guns. 16 00:00:59,918 --> 00:01:02,418 He makes each woman his prisoner, 17 00:01:02,500 --> 00:01:05,080 the torture lasting for hours on end. 18 00:01:05,167 --> 00:01:08,247 Norcal was a stalker, meticulous planner, 19 00:01:08,334 --> 00:01:10,714 but he has made some mistakes, 20 00:01:10,792 --> 00:01:12,882 leaving solid evidence and promising clues 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,209 at crime scenes across northern California. 22 00:01:15,292 --> 00:01:18,462 Will investigators eventually connect the dots? 23 00:01:18,542 --> 00:01:22,792 Here is part two of "the phantom predator." 24 00:01:22,876 --> 00:01:31,666 ?? 25 00:01:31,751 --> 00:01:34,921 Schubert: It began in 1991. 26 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,040 As I have said many times before, 27 00:01:38,125 --> 00:01:43,125 cold cases often become a journey for justice. 28 00:01:45,751 --> 00:01:50,081 Earnest-payte: I woke up to a masked man 29 00:01:50,167 --> 00:01:53,037 who had his arm around my neck, 30 00:01:53,125 --> 00:01:58,285 and he very calmly said, "don't make a sound. 31 00:01:58,375 --> 00:02:00,455 I have a gun." 32 00:02:01,792 --> 00:02:05,002 I was picked, and I don't know why. 33 00:02:05,083 --> 00:02:07,673 How did he even pick these people? 34 00:02:07,751 --> 00:02:10,131 He cased their homes. He learned their habits. 35 00:02:10,209 --> 00:02:11,499 He stalked them. 36 00:02:11,584 --> 00:02:14,334 He is always going to pick a vulnerable victim. 37 00:02:14,417 --> 00:02:19,997 Who lives alone or is alone a sufficient amount of time 38 00:02:20,083 --> 00:02:23,583 for him to commit the assault. 39 00:02:23,667 --> 00:02:27,537 That following and watching and voyeuristic behavior, 40 00:02:27,626 --> 00:02:29,246 intel-gathering behavior... 41 00:02:29,334 --> 00:02:35,384 That could have predated those assaults by as much as months. 42 00:02:35,459 --> 00:02:38,419 Who is this guy, and why has he been able 43 00:02:38,500 --> 00:02:40,580 to get away for so long? 44 00:02:40,667 --> 00:02:43,627 He will always act in the interest of self-preservation, 45 00:02:43,709 --> 00:02:45,499 meaning he's gonna be organized. 46 00:02:45,584 --> 00:02:46,884 He is not impulsive. 47 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,040 This is very carefully thought out. 48 00:02:49,125 --> 00:02:51,455 Hagan: He knows the floor plan. 49 00:02:51,542 --> 00:02:54,672 He knows how to get in and how to get out. 50 00:02:54,751 --> 00:02:57,541 Lane: One of the cops said that he probably was 51 00:02:57,626 --> 00:02:59,666 in my house before the incident. 52 00:02:59,751 --> 00:03:02,631 What he did was cut a hole through the drywall 53 00:03:02,709 --> 00:03:06,709 in the garage and stuck his hand through the drywall 54 00:03:06,792 --> 00:03:09,752 and then opened the door, you know, and unlocked it. 55 00:03:09,834 --> 00:03:15,464 He is using what I would call more of a blitz attack. 56 00:03:15,542 --> 00:03:19,882 A sudden and quick effort to overpower the victims. 57 00:03:19,959 --> 00:03:23,709 Lane: He jumped on me, and he had a knife. 58 00:03:23,792 --> 00:03:29,042 I was just gonna do everything possible to survive. 59 00:03:29,125 --> 00:03:32,665 Jordan: Before the attacker leaves, he takes a necklace 60 00:03:32,751 --> 00:03:36,001 that she's wearing off her neck. 61 00:03:36,083 --> 00:03:37,173 Why? 62 00:03:37,250 --> 00:03:40,420 So that he has a trophy of his conquest. 63 00:03:40,500 --> 00:03:45,380 The trophies become memorabilia for that individual 64 00:03:45,459 --> 00:03:49,169 of a time that was very important to them. 65 00:03:52,584 --> 00:03:56,294 Beery: When you know that there are multiple people 66 00:03:56,375 --> 00:04:00,955 who he's already attacked, your mind starts going to, 67 00:04:01,042 --> 00:04:03,132 "when is he going to hit next?" 68 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,130 He jumps on her, attacks her. 69 00:04:11,584 --> 00:04:13,214 He took her atm card 70 00:04:13,292 --> 00:04:15,502 and made her give him the pin, and, remember, 71 00:04:15,584 --> 00:04:17,634 that relinquishing of the security pin 72 00:04:17,709 --> 00:04:19,789 is part of the power and control. 73 00:04:19,876 --> 00:04:24,246 "Even after I've left, I'm going to victimize you." 74 00:04:24,334 --> 00:04:26,214 Jackson: When he went to the atm, 75 00:04:26,292 --> 00:04:28,252 he was caught on surveillance at that time, 76 00:04:28,334 --> 00:04:33,334 at about 7:30 A.M., wearing a clear plastic Halloween mask. 77 00:04:34,500 --> 00:04:36,670 Beery: And then we had a couple of victims 78 00:04:36,751 --> 00:04:38,501 who were not so cooperative, 79 00:04:38,584 --> 00:04:40,964 and they did try to fight with him. 80 00:04:41,042 --> 00:04:45,542 Anderson: I grabbed the scissors and stabbed him in his arm. 81 00:04:45,626 --> 00:04:47,166 I didn't have it in me to kill him. 82 00:04:47,250 --> 00:04:48,670 I could have killed him. 83 00:04:48,751 --> 00:04:49,921 He made a mistake. 84 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,710 Massie: He tried to clean up the scene, 85 00:04:51,792 --> 00:04:53,382 but he left something behind. 86 00:04:53,459 --> 00:04:56,709 His blood is... you know, there's liquid DNA right there 87 00:04:56,792 --> 00:04:59,582 to help track down the perpetrator. 88 00:04:59,667 --> 00:05:02,877 Gafni: And it was particularly after he left blood 89 00:05:02,959 --> 00:05:05,539 DNA at the scene where that matched up, 90 00:05:05,626 --> 00:05:07,576 and then I think it was at that point they were like, 91 00:05:07,667 --> 00:05:09,457 "okay, we have a serial rapist here." 92 00:05:09,542 --> 00:05:11,422 Beery: It almost is like a ticking time bomb 93 00:05:11,500 --> 00:05:13,670 because you know it's going to happen again. 94 00:05:13,751 --> 00:05:16,331 You don't know where, and you don't know when. 95 00:05:16,417 --> 00:05:23,787 ?? 96 00:05:23,876 --> 00:05:26,166 [Telephone ringing] 97 00:05:26,250 --> 00:05:30,630 Smith: The night of this incident, I got a call at home. 98 00:05:30,709 --> 00:05:32,879 Dispatcher came on and said, 99 00:05:32,959 --> 00:05:36,249 "hey, you've got to get in here." 100 00:05:36,334 --> 00:05:38,834 This was a young 22-year-old college girl, 101 00:05:38,918 --> 00:05:44,078 home for the weekend, studying for a computer science final. 102 00:05:44,167 --> 00:05:46,247 Keene: She had been in and out of her apartment 103 00:05:46,334 --> 00:05:48,254 that evening, doing laundry. 104 00:05:48,334 --> 00:05:50,964 I think she might have left her door unlocked at one point. 105 00:05:51,042 --> 00:05:52,832 Her roommates had gone home for the weekend. 106 00:05:52,918 --> 00:05:54,248 She was there alone. 107 00:05:54,334 --> 00:05:55,794 Keene: She was going about her routine, 108 00:05:55,876 --> 00:05:58,416 and she hears noises coming from upstairs. 109 00:05:58,500 --> 00:06:00,460 Smith: It kind of alarmed her. 110 00:06:00,542 --> 00:06:02,632 She decided to go investigate. 111 00:06:02,709 --> 00:06:08,129 Keene: She grabbed a pair of scissors, went upstairs. 112 00:06:10,375 --> 00:06:11,915 Smith: Looked in the roommate's room. 113 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,170 There was nothing. 114 00:06:14,250 --> 00:06:16,210 Went to the second roommate's room. 115 00:06:16,292 --> 00:06:21,422 ?? 116 00:06:21,500 --> 00:06:23,330 She was confronted by the guy in the mask 117 00:06:23,417 --> 00:06:26,787 that jumped out from behind the door. 118 00:06:26,876 --> 00:06:30,576 It was just a matter of seconds and instantly overpowered her. 119 00:06:30,667 --> 00:06:36,247 He's surprising the victims, and he's overwhelming them. 120 00:06:36,334 --> 00:06:39,834 She told him that her roommate was about to come home. 121 00:06:39,918 --> 00:06:41,628 Jordan: She may have thrown him off his game 122 00:06:41,709 --> 00:06:43,709 by saying that the roommates were coming home, 123 00:06:43,792 --> 00:06:45,582 but he is determined. 124 00:06:45,667 --> 00:06:48,167 He changes his plan of attack. 125 00:06:48,250 --> 00:06:51,330 Keene: He responded by carrying her out of the apartment 126 00:06:51,417 --> 00:06:53,707 and taking her to her car. 127 00:06:56,918 --> 00:07:00,288 And then he drove her away from her home. 128 00:07:00,375 --> 00:07:04,375 Arutt: The minute an assault like this goes into a vehicle, 129 00:07:04,459 --> 00:07:07,539 the risk goes up exponentially 130 00:07:07,626 --> 00:07:10,576 that it's going to also be a murder. 131 00:07:13,250 --> 00:07:16,170 He then drove around for several hours. 132 00:07:16,250 --> 00:07:20,500 He stopped occasionally to sexually assault her. 133 00:07:23,125 --> 00:07:27,915 He drove her back, stopped in the vicinity of her residence, 134 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,750 left the motor running. 135 00:07:29,834 --> 00:07:31,634 Keene: Actually asked her if she wanted him 136 00:07:31,709 --> 00:07:34,499 to call somebody to come and help her. 137 00:07:34,584 --> 00:07:39,924 As if he were being gentlemanly or caring. 138 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,920 Jordan: It may seem unfathomable that a rapist would actually 139 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,210 express concerns towards his victim, 140 00:07:45,292 --> 00:07:48,002 but that is completely consistent. 141 00:07:48,083 --> 00:07:51,383 He once again is acting on a fantasy in his head 142 00:07:51,459 --> 00:07:53,879 that she is a willing participant. 143 00:07:53,959 --> 00:07:57,669 She was bound, so it was incumbent upon her 144 00:07:57,751 --> 00:08:02,421 to try to free herself of the bindings enough 145 00:08:02,500 --> 00:08:05,500 that she could escape the vehicle and get help. 146 00:08:07,417 --> 00:08:09,707 She ended up going to the police station on her own, 147 00:08:09,792 --> 00:08:12,002 still having duct tape attached to her, 148 00:08:12,083 --> 00:08:14,713 and filed a report saying she was raped. 149 00:08:14,792 --> 00:08:16,462 Smith: When I got to the police department, 150 00:08:16,542 --> 00:08:19,712 the victim was sitting in the lobby. 151 00:08:19,792 --> 00:08:22,502 It was almost like she was in shock. 152 00:08:22,584 --> 00:08:25,084 This was a very well-planned attack. 153 00:08:25,167 --> 00:08:28,127 Beery: To take somebody out of their home, 154 00:08:28,209 --> 00:08:30,419 carry them out to their vehicle, put them in it, 155 00:08:30,500 --> 00:08:34,500 and then drive them elsewhere... That's a very risky thing to do. 156 00:08:34,584 --> 00:08:36,924 That was definitely a much bolder move 157 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,040 than we had seen in some of the other cases. 158 00:08:39,125 --> 00:08:42,375 O'Toole: M.0. Changes over time as the offender 159 00:08:42,459 --> 00:08:44,129 gets better at the crimes 160 00:08:44,209 --> 00:08:46,829 and he gets more experience, more confident, 161 00:08:46,918 --> 00:08:48,628 maybe wanted to take a risk 162 00:08:48,709 --> 00:08:52,129 because that was quite exciting for him. 163 00:08:52,209 --> 00:08:54,999 This particular incident, we had basically two crime scenes. 164 00:08:55,083 --> 00:08:56,923 You had the victim's apartment on one side, 165 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,210 and then you had the car where they actually left the scene 166 00:09:00,292 --> 00:09:02,082 and where the attack occurred. 167 00:09:02,167 --> 00:09:04,877 The vehicle seats were processed, 168 00:09:04,959 --> 00:09:06,379 and they, in turn, 169 00:09:06,459 --> 00:09:11,169 yielded what we felt was usable amounts of DNA evidence. 170 00:09:11,250 --> 00:09:14,750 It was a period of time later that we got notification 171 00:09:14,834 --> 00:09:17,674 that the DNA in our case had matched other cases. 172 00:09:17,751 --> 00:09:20,881 They basically had this genetic blueprint of their suspect 173 00:09:20,959 --> 00:09:22,379 without knowing who it is. 174 00:09:22,459 --> 00:09:25,789 Smith: This was a case involving literally like a stranger 175 00:09:25,876 --> 00:09:27,246 in the night. 176 00:09:27,334 --> 00:09:32,134 The suspect came in, the crime was committed, 177 00:09:32,209 --> 00:09:34,879 and he vanished into the dark. 178 00:09:36,375 --> 00:09:38,625 Jordan: Think of it as just a clock winding up, 179 00:09:38,709 --> 00:09:40,709 unwinding, resetting. 180 00:09:40,792 --> 00:09:44,382 It will never stop until he's caught. 181 00:09:44,459 --> 00:09:46,079 Keene: She walked into the garage, 182 00:09:46,167 --> 00:09:48,287 and that's when she was attacked. 183 00:09:48,375 --> 00:09:53,285 ?? 184 00:09:56,209 --> 00:09:57,539 Jackson: For nearly a decade, 185 00:09:57,626 --> 00:10:00,706 the norcal rapist has been able to elude police. 186 00:10:00,792 --> 00:10:04,332 He has left DNA at several of the crime scenes, 187 00:10:04,417 --> 00:10:07,827 but, still, police have been unable to make an arrest. 188 00:10:07,918 --> 00:10:09,628 The big question is why. 189 00:10:09,709 --> 00:10:12,919 Gagliano: People think that if you have somebody's DNA 190 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,170 that that means that it's like going to the dmv 191 00:10:16,250 --> 00:10:18,420 and punching somebody's name in and vehicle type 192 00:10:18,500 --> 00:10:20,500 and having their picture flash up on the screen 193 00:10:20,584 --> 00:10:22,634 with all their pertinent data related to them, 194 00:10:22,709 --> 00:10:24,169 and that's not the way that it works. 195 00:10:24,250 --> 00:10:27,170 California has this incredible thing called codis, 196 00:10:27,250 --> 00:10:28,580 which is the DNA data bank 197 00:10:28,667 --> 00:10:30,537 that is run by the department of justice. 198 00:10:30,626 --> 00:10:33,536 Every state in this country has a similar system 199 00:10:33,626 --> 00:10:35,746 of collecting DNA from people 200 00:10:35,834 --> 00:10:37,584 that have been convicted of crimes 201 00:10:37,667 --> 00:10:40,127 and also trying to figure out if any unsolveds. 202 00:10:40,209 --> 00:10:43,329 So, if you have an unsolved case, you've got DNA, 203 00:10:43,417 --> 00:10:45,457 you then upload it to the DNA data bank 204 00:10:45,542 --> 00:10:47,712 and you look to see if it matches any person 205 00:10:47,792 --> 00:10:50,672 or if it matches any other unknown case. 206 00:10:50,751 --> 00:10:54,381 Gagliano: Having that DNA sample isn't the end-all, cure-all, 207 00:10:54,459 --> 00:10:58,039 because somebody could have never been arrested before. 208 00:10:58,125 --> 00:10:59,575 They're not in the national database. 209 00:10:59,667 --> 00:11:02,077 Beery: It's like having a fingerprint from a suspect. 210 00:11:02,167 --> 00:11:03,997 And you know you have a fingerprint, 211 00:11:04,083 --> 00:11:06,713 but you don't know who that fingerprint belongs to 212 00:11:06,792 --> 00:11:09,792 until a person is arrested. 213 00:11:09,876 --> 00:11:11,956 You're hoping and praying for a hit, 214 00:11:12,042 --> 00:11:13,832 meaning it comes up and matches some criminal 215 00:11:13,918 --> 00:11:15,378 you already have in the database, 216 00:11:15,459 --> 00:11:17,129 but that doesn't always happen. 217 00:11:17,209 --> 00:11:23,129 ?? 218 00:11:23,209 --> 00:11:24,749 There was no witnesses to this crime. 219 00:11:24,834 --> 00:11:27,794 There was no video evidence of this crime. 220 00:11:27,876 --> 00:11:29,376 There was nothing to go on. 221 00:11:29,459 --> 00:11:31,459 It wasn't long before we suddenly felt 222 00:11:31,542 --> 00:11:34,382 we were at a dead end. 223 00:11:38,834 --> 00:11:41,254 Keene: After the 2000 Davis assault, 224 00:11:41,334 --> 00:11:42,634 there was a six-year gap 225 00:11:42,709 --> 00:11:45,039 in the norcal rapist's activities. 226 00:11:45,125 --> 00:11:47,995 Smith: There's any number of reasons that the series can stop 227 00:11:48,083 --> 00:11:49,293 for a period of time. 228 00:11:49,375 --> 00:11:51,035 Could the suspect have been in custody? 229 00:11:51,125 --> 00:11:53,165 Could the suspect have moved to a different jurisdiction? 230 00:11:53,250 --> 00:11:57,170 Could his marital status changed or his personal life changed? 231 00:11:57,250 --> 00:12:00,580 Jordan: He may be able, because of the fear of getting caught 232 00:12:00,667 --> 00:12:02,327 in that interest in self-preservation, 233 00:12:02,417 --> 00:12:04,997 to actually desist from acting on his fantasies, 234 00:12:05,083 --> 00:12:08,713 but make no mistake... The fantasies never stop. 235 00:12:08,792 --> 00:12:11,792 They're still going on in his head. 236 00:12:11,876 --> 00:12:15,246 It will never stop until he's caught. 237 00:12:15,334 --> 00:12:20,584 ?? 238 00:12:20,667 --> 00:12:22,667 Hahn: The earliest I can remember 239 00:12:22,751 --> 00:12:24,671 becoming aware of the norcal rapist 240 00:12:24,751 --> 00:12:28,171 is when he struck here in Sacramento, which was in 2006. 241 00:12:28,250 --> 00:12:30,040 There were two victims. 242 00:12:30,125 --> 00:12:31,625 They were roommates. 243 00:12:31,709 --> 00:12:34,749 They lived in the natomas area of the city. 244 00:12:34,834 --> 00:12:39,334 One of the roommates was at home by herself. 245 00:12:41,375 --> 00:12:43,875 She decided to take a shower. 246 00:12:43,959 --> 00:12:50,379 ?? 247 00:12:50,459 --> 00:12:56,749 ?? 248 00:12:56,834 --> 00:12:59,544 And when she got out of the shower... 249 00:13:02,042 --> 00:13:06,582 ...she was accosted by an individual inside of her home. 250 00:13:06,667 --> 00:13:11,377 He immediately grabbed her and bound her, 251 00:13:11,459 --> 00:13:18,329 covering her eyes and her mouth, and took her to the bedroom. 252 00:13:18,417 --> 00:13:22,327 He seemed to know that she had a roommate, 253 00:13:22,417 --> 00:13:24,327 and it appeared 254 00:13:24,417 --> 00:13:28,247 as if he was waiting for the roommate to come home. 255 00:13:28,334 --> 00:13:34,334 ?? 256 00:13:34,417 --> 00:13:38,247 Keene: She came home to find the suspect's vehicle 257 00:13:38,334 --> 00:13:40,674 parked in the garage. 258 00:13:40,751 --> 00:13:43,331 She thought it belonged to a friend of her roommate 259 00:13:43,417 --> 00:13:45,377 who was helping to remove some things. 260 00:13:45,459 --> 00:13:50,829 ?? 261 00:13:50,918 --> 00:13:53,748 And that's when she was attacked. 262 00:13:53,834 --> 00:13:58,134 Jackson: She said the norcal rapist took her to the same bedroom 263 00:13:58,209 --> 00:14:01,329 that he had taken her roommate to attack 264 00:14:01,417 --> 00:14:03,577 and attacked her, as well. 265 00:14:05,083 --> 00:14:08,423 Throughout a number of hours in the evening 266 00:14:08,500 --> 00:14:10,000 and into the next morning, 267 00:14:10,083 --> 00:14:15,383 he sexually assaulted both of the victims numerous times. 268 00:14:18,375 --> 00:14:20,075 After he had finished, 269 00:14:20,167 --> 00:14:22,747 he took them into the bathroom of the home 270 00:14:22,834 --> 00:14:26,334 and forced them to clean themselves. 271 00:14:26,417 --> 00:14:30,827 He evidently was trying to get rid of traces of DNA. 272 00:14:30,918 --> 00:14:33,418 Right now a serial rapist is on the loose. 273 00:14:33,500 --> 00:14:35,630 And Sacramento police have new evidence 274 00:14:35,709 --> 00:14:38,459 this guy's been attacking women for years. 275 00:14:38,542 --> 00:14:40,002 O'Toole: When an offender graduates 276 00:14:40,083 --> 00:14:42,133 to multiple victims at the same time, 277 00:14:42,209 --> 00:14:44,789 it could suggest he's trying to make it more exciting, 278 00:14:44,876 --> 00:14:46,826 he's trying to take bigger risks, 279 00:14:46,918 --> 00:14:50,878 and with risk comes more mental and sexual excitement. 280 00:14:50,959 --> 00:14:55,999 It could also suggest that he feels very confident 281 00:14:56,083 --> 00:14:57,503 in his own strength, 282 00:14:57,584 --> 00:15:00,424 in his own ability to control the situation. 283 00:15:00,500 --> 00:15:04,210 It could be that he's bored and he wants to change it 284 00:15:04,292 --> 00:15:06,672 a little bit, make it a little bit different. 285 00:15:06,751 --> 00:15:09,881 It appeared to us that he had some knowledge 286 00:15:09,959 --> 00:15:11,459 of both of the victims, 287 00:15:11,542 --> 00:15:14,712 that he did a lot of research prior to the attack. 288 00:15:14,792 --> 00:15:16,832 He knew a lot of details about their jobs. 289 00:15:16,918 --> 00:15:20,248 Beery: Where they worked or what their daily pattern was. 290 00:15:20,334 --> 00:15:23,254 The fact that he knows where they work leaves these women 291 00:15:23,334 --> 00:15:25,504 with a fear that this person is still out there. 292 00:15:25,584 --> 00:15:27,334 They're scared of walking around their neighborhood, 293 00:15:27,417 --> 00:15:30,917 wondering when this person is gonna strike next. 294 00:15:34,083 --> 00:15:36,633 Beery: We were able to see on the video-surveillance camera 295 00:15:36,709 --> 00:15:38,789 that there was a white s.U.V. 296 00:15:38,876 --> 00:15:42,076 That drove down the street where the victims' house was. 297 00:15:42,167 --> 00:15:45,537 We were pretty confident that that white s.U.V. 298 00:15:45,626 --> 00:15:47,706 Belonged to our suspect. 299 00:15:55,292 --> 00:15:57,672 Jackson: So, in 2006, the norcal rapist attacks 300 00:15:57,751 --> 00:16:00,291 two roommates in their home. 301 00:16:00,375 --> 00:16:02,075 He tries to get rid of the DNA 302 00:16:02,167 --> 00:16:04,627 by showering the victims thereafter, 303 00:16:04,709 --> 00:16:09,209 but the police were able to retrieve that DNA nonetheless. 304 00:16:09,292 --> 00:16:12,712 Beery: That DNA was given to the crime lab. 305 00:16:12,792 --> 00:16:15,632 The crime lab was able to develop a profile, 306 00:16:15,709 --> 00:16:18,789 and then that profile is uploaded 307 00:16:18,876 --> 00:16:21,996 to a national database called codis. 308 00:16:22,083 --> 00:16:24,633 They obviously didn't have a name of the person, 309 00:16:24,709 --> 00:16:26,379 but they had a DNA profile. 310 00:16:26,459 --> 00:16:30,709 It did tell us that we had other cases 311 00:16:30,792 --> 00:16:33,882 that were linked to our Sacramento case, 312 00:16:33,959 --> 00:16:36,579 so it was a DNA case-case hit. 313 00:16:36,667 --> 00:16:41,077 We knew that this person had not only struck in Sacramento 314 00:16:41,167 --> 00:16:45,287 but he had struck in other areas throughout northern California. 315 00:16:45,375 --> 00:16:50,495 It was a game-changer because it was at that point 316 00:16:50,584 --> 00:16:52,084 that we realized, "holy cow. 317 00:16:52,167 --> 00:16:54,287 We've got a prolific offender." 318 00:16:54,375 --> 00:17:04,785 ?? 319 00:17:05,876 --> 00:17:08,166 The utility of a task force in law enforcement 320 00:17:08,250 --> 00:17:10,630 is not just the sharing of resources, 321 00:17:10,709 --> 00:17:12,999 but it's the ability to go back and look at cases 322 00:17:13,083 --> 00:17:15,713 that are unsolved and say, "I want to look at this thing" 323 00:17:15,792 --> 00:17:17,632 with a renewed interest, with a different eye. 324 00:17:17,709 --> 00:17:19,169 I want to bring some different people in. 325 00:17:19,250 --> 00:17:20,750 I'm gonna reinterview witnesses, 326 00:17:20,834 --> 00:17:23,384 "and I'm gonna try and get this case back on the forefront." 327 00:17:23,459 --> 00:17:26,379 Gafni: Sacramento county d.A. Is kind of taking the lead on it, 328 00:17:26,459 --> 00:17:28,079 and they're working with these d.A.S 329 00:17:28,167 --> 00:17:30,327 from these other six counties. 330 00:17:30,417 --> 00:17:32,377 Beery: What we immediately did was 331 00:17:32,459 --> 00:17:34,289 get a hold of all those other reports 332 00:17:34,375 --> 00:17:35,875 from all the other agencies. 333 00:17:35,959 --> 00:17:38,039 Who were the victims in the other cases? 334 00:17:38,125 --> 00:17:40,205 What did he do to those victims? 335 00:17:40,292 --> 00:17:42,382 Did he take anything from them 336 00:17:42,459 --> 00:17:44,999 that was monetary or any type of property? 337 00:17:45,083 --> 00:17:47,003 Were there any leads in those cases 338 00:17:47,083 --> 00:17:51,963 that maybe weren't followed up on or could be followed up on? 339 00:17:52,042 --> 00:17:54,382 Definitely, we had some great leads. 340 00:17:54,459 --> 00:17:58,379 In the 2006 case, we had a lot of evidence 341 00:17:58,459 --> 00:18:00,459 that came from that scene. 342 00:18:00,542 --> 00:18:02,832 One of the victims had her blindfold slip, 343 00:18:02,918 --> 00:18:05,538 and she was able to catch a glimpse of him 344 00:18:05,626 --> 00:18:07,416 and provide a description to the police, 345 00:18:07,500 --> 00:18:10,670 which led to a sketch being released to the public. 346 00:18:10,751 --> 00:18:13,211 Woman: The suspect is white, in his late 30s, 347 00:18:13,292 --> 00:18:16,042 roughly 6 feet tall, 250 pounds, 348 00:18:16,125 --> 00:18:17,785 and has brown spiked hair. 349 00:18:17,876 --> 00:18:20,786 This is the second sketch of the norcal rapist 350 00:18:20,876 --> 00:18:22,666 from a victim who caught a glimpse of him, 351 00:18:22,751 --> 00:18:28,881 the first from 1997 and the second from 2006. 352 00:18:28,959 --> 00:18:31,669 Massie: We were able to see that he had gained weight. 353 00:18:31,751 --> 00:18:33,581 He had gained 30 to 40 pounds 354 00:18:33,667 --> 00:18:38,167 since he first started attacking women in 1991. 355 00:18:38,250 --> 00:18:41,380 Another significant development from the 2006 case 356 00:18:41,459 --> 00:18:43,959 was that a surveillance camera belonging to a neighbor 357 00:18:44,042 --> 00:18:45,582 captured a vehicle leaving the scene. 358 00:18:45,667 --> 00:18:47,287 Newly released surveillance video 359 00:18:47,375 --> 00:18:50,325 shows the serial rapist police blame for attacks 360 00:18:50,417 --> 00:18:52,127 across northern California. 361 00:18:52,209 --> 00:18:54,999 One camera captured the suspect driving away 362 00:18:55,083 --> 00:18:57,003 from the latest sexual assault last month 363 00:18:57,083 --> 00:18:59,003 in a white Toyota 4runner. 364 00:18:59,083 --> 00:19:01,463 We were able to see on the video-surveillance camera 365 00:19:01,542 --> 00:19:04,252 that there was a white s.U.V. 366 00:19:04,334 --> 00:19:07,834 That drove down the street where the victims' house was 367 00:19:07,918 --> 00:19:11,458 about the time that the crime would have occurred. 368 00:19:11,542 --> 00:19:13,292 He drove out of the camera shot, 369 00:19:13,375 --> 00:19:17,495 and we found out later he had pulled into the garage. 370 00:19:17,584 --> 00:19:21,584 Beery: And then that same vehicle was seen leaving that scene about 371 00:19:21,667 --> 00:19:24,457 when the victims said he would have left their house. 372 00:19:24,542 --> 00:19:26,292 He had blacked-out, tinted windows 373 00:19:26,375 --> 00:19:27,875 so you couldn't see in the car. 374 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,080 Beery: We were pretty confident that that white s.U.V. 375 00:19:31,167 --> 00:19:32,627 Belonged to our suspect. 376 00:19:32,709 --> 00:19:34,129 Woman: They believe he was last seen 377 00:19:34,209 --> 00:19:35,879 driving a white Toyota 4runner 378 00:19:35,959 --> 00:19:39,039 with tinted windows and possibly a roof rack. 379 00:19:39,125 --> 00:19:41,285 Getting a vehicle that a subject could have traveled 380 00:19:41,375 --> 00:19:43,745 to or from a crime scene on videotape 381 00:19:43,834 --> 00:19:47,174 is incredibly useful to investigators. 382 00:19:47,250 --> 00:19:49,540 Every vehicle has to be registered to somebody, 383 00:19:49,626 --> 00:19:52,496 and, yes, people could use somebody else's car, 384 00:19:52,584 --> 00:19:54,504 yes, they could steal a car, 385 00:19:54,584 --> 00:19:56,384 but it gives you a place to start. 386 00:19:56,459 --> 00:19:58,709 Beery: We turned that vehicle surveillance video 387 00:19:58,792 --> 00:20:01,082 over to our auto-theft unit, 388 00:20:01,167 --> 00:20:02,957 and they were able to narrow down 389 00:20:03,042 --> 00:20:06,422 that we were most likely looking for a 1998 390 00:20:06,500 --> 00:20:11,790 to 2000 Toyota 4runner limited, white over silver. 391 00:20:11,876 --> 00:20:14,246 There was a description of a vehicle. 392 00:20:14,334 --> 00:20:17,084 There was a composite drawing believed 393 00:20:17,167 --> 00:20:19,037 to be reasonably accurate. 394 00:20:19,125 --> 00:20:23,125 I thought at that point, "hey, they're gonna get this guy. 395 00:20:23,209 --> 00:20:25,129 I can sit back and be happy 396 00:20:25,209 --> 00:20:29,629 that maybe this is finally coming to a close." 397 00:20:29,709 --> 00:20:31,829 Beery: And then, of course, that portion 398 00:20:31,918 --> 00:20:33,328 of the task force went forward 399 00:20:33,417 --> 00:20:37,327 with trying to locate all of the registered owners 400 00:20:37,417 --> 00:20:40,577 of Toyota 4runners in the northern California area, 401 00:20:40,667 --> 00:20:44,827 and, as you can imagine, that was a huge, huge list. 402 00:20:44,918 --> 00:20:48,628 It narrowed it down a bit, but it was still overwhelming. 403 00:20:48,709 --> 00:20:52,959 We had a lot of detectives who worked a lot of hours 404 00:20:53,042 --> 00:20:55,712 trying to track down all the registered owners. 405 00:20:55,792 --> 00:20:58,082 It was not a list that we were able to exhaust 406 00:20:58,167 --> 00:20:59,667 because there were so many. 407 00:20:59,751 --> 00:21:02,381 Jackson: Operation 4runner actually ended without them 408 00:21:02,459 --> 00:21:04,419 identifying the norcal rapist, 409 00:21:04,500 --> 00:21:06,380 which was a most unfortunate outcome. 410 00:21:06,459 --> 00:21:08,669 But the task force was determined 411 00:21:08,751 --> 00:21:10,291 that they were going to stay together 412 00:21:10,375 --> 00:21:13,665 and come up with new strategies to try to hone in 413 00:21:13,751 --> 00:21:17,541 and identify who is the norcal rapist. 414 00:21:20,542 --> 00:21:23,132 No tip that gets called in got ignored. 415 00:21:23,209 --> 00:21:26,669 We took upwards of over 120 DNA swabs. 416 00:21:26,751 --> 00:21:29,461 You would have someone that would look really good 417 00:21:29,542 --> 00:21:30,882 and I would be really excited 418 00:21:30,959 --> 00:21:33,379 and I would think, "this is gonna be the guy." 419 00:21:33,459 --> 00:21:39,999 ?? 420 00:21:47,459 --> 00:21:50,419 Law-enforcement officials have formed a task force 421 00:21:50,500 --> 00:21:53,130 to bring all the norcal rapist cases together. 422 00:21:53,209 --> 00:21:56,669 Criminal profilers now add their critical analysis 423 00:21:56,751 --> 00:21:59,541 to provide detectives with a better understanding 424 00:21:59,626 --> 00:22:01,666 of this twisted phantom. 425 00:22:01,751 --> 00:22:03,541 The heat is finally on. 426 00:22:03,626 --> 00:22:07,036 The norcal rapist doesn't know it, but police are closing in. 427 00:22:07,125 --> 00:22:09,665 There is about to be a major break in the case, 428 00:22:09,751 --> 00:22:11,711 and investigators are about to execute 429 00:22:11,792 --> 00:22:16,212 one of the most impressive manhunts in U.S. history. 430 00:22:26,334 --> 00:22:29,044 Jackson: On November 21, 2006, 431 00:22:29,125 --> 00:22:31,325 the task force holds a press conference, 432 00:22:31,417 --> 00:22:33,377 and you have one of these two roommates 433 00:22:33,459 --> 00:22:36,709 who's bold enough and courageous enough to come forward 434 00:22:36,792 --> 00:22:39,582 so that they can catch the norcal rapist. 435 00:22:57,626 --> 00:23:00,036 Gagliano: If you can get it out into the public's consciousness, 436 00:23:00,125 --> 00:23:01,455 maybe somebody hears about it 437 00:23:01,542 --> 00:23:03,462 that knows something that can come forward. 438 00:23:03,542 --> 00:23:05,132 Woman: Police have released an undated sketch 439 00:23:05,209 --> 00:23:08,079 of the rape suspect, as well as surveillance video of him 440 00:23:08,167 --> 00:23:11,127 using a victim's atm card at a woodland bank 441 00:23:11,209 --> 00:23:12,789 after one of the attacks. 442 00:23:12,876 --> 00:23:14,416 A mask distorts his face, 443 00:23:14,500 --> 00:23:17,630 but detectives say someone should recognize him. 444 00:23:17,709 --> 00:23:20,749 We released not only the composites 445 00:23:20,834 --> 00:23:23,674 but we released the Toyota 4runner surveillance video 446 00:23:23,751 --> 00:23:25,961 and we released the atm photo 447 00:23:26,042 --> 00:23:29,292 to see if anybody in any community 448 00:23:29,375 --> 00:23:32,125 throughout the bay area and in northern California 449 00:23:32,209 --> 00:23:34,879 recognized any of those pieces of evidence. 450 00:23:49,626 --> 00:23:51,536 Hahn: It impacts a whole city and, 451 00:23:51,626 --> 00:23:53,746 in this case, a whole region of our state 452 00:23:53,834 --> 00:23:56,964 where people are worried that this is going to happen to them 453 00:23:57,042 --> 00:23:59,042 or their loved ones when they're not home. 454 00:23:59,125 --> 00:24:02,375 If I can't be in my house and be safe, 455 00:24:02,459 --> 00:24:06,329 then where is the safe place? 456 00:24:06,417 --> 00:24:08,457 Jordan: As investigators hoped, 457 00:24:08,542 --> 00:24:11,632 the public reaction to that press conference was immediate. 458 00:24:11,709 --> 00:24:12,789 [Telephone ringing] 459 00:24:12,876 --> 00:24:14,326 Public fear was stirred up, 460 00:24:14,417 --> 00:24:18,127 and dozens of new tips and clues started pouring in. 461 00:24:18,209 --> 00:24:20,629 Beery: We did get a lot of leads from people. 462 00:24:20,709 --> 00:24:22,079 We got a lot of tips. 463 00:24:22,167 --> 00:24:23,917 We did a lot of follow-up on those... 464 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,460 On those leads and those tips. 465 00:24:26,542 --> 00:24:28,422 People would see the composites 466 00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:31,500 that were put out on the television 467 00:24:31,584 --> 00:24:33,174 and throughout the media, 468 00:24:33,250 --> 00:24:36,670 and they would call in and they would try to help. 469 00:24:36,751 --> 00:24:39,541 "We think that this is our neighbor." 470 00:24:39,626 --> 00:24:41,876 Gagliano: No tip that gets called in got ignored, 471 00:24:41,959 --> 00:24:44,499 no matter how superfluous or tangential 472 00:24:44,584 --> 00:24:47,384 or how ridiculous it sounds. 473 00:24:47,459 --> 00:24:49,379 Some of my victims would call and say, 474 00:24:49,459 --> 00:24:53,209 "hey, there was a sexual assault that happened in this city. 475 00:24:53,292 --> 00:24:56,212 It sounds really similar. Can you look into it?" 476 00:24:56,292 --> 00:24:58,672 Investigators run every one of those leads to ground 477 00:24:58,751 --> 00:25:00,581 because you don't know when one of those leads 478 00:25:00,667 --> 00:25:02,207 is gonna be the thing that's gonna cause 479 00:25:02,292 --> 00:25:03,752 and help you to break the case. 480 00:25:03,834 --> 00:25:08,334 We took upwards of 120... over 120... 481 00:25:08,417 --> 00:25:11,497 Swabs, DNA swabs, from... From individuals. 482 00:25:11,584 --> 00:25:15,214 You would have someone that would look really good, 483 00:25:15,292 --> 00:25:17,382 and I would be really excited and I would think, 484 00:25:17,459 --> 00:25:19,209 "this is gonna be the guy," 485 00:25:19,292 --> 00:25:21,792 and we would send that swab to the crime lab, 486 00:25:21,876 --> 00:25:24,036 they would do their testing on it, 487 00:25:24,125 --> 00:25:28,125 and the DNA didn't match. 488 00:25:28,209 --> 00:25:32,919 I think any case that is a big case like this is frustrating 489 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,750 because you don't have the leads 490 00:25:34,834 --> 00:25:36,834 that you need to solve it right away. 491 00:25:36,918 --> 00:25:39,248 Beery: It was a roller coaster in that sense, 492 00:25:39,334 --> 00:25:41,674 up one minute, thinking, "this is gonna be it," 493 00:25:41,751 --> 00:25:44,581 and then down the next minute when it really 494 00:25:44,667 --> 00:25:47,037 wasn't your person. 495 00:25:47,125 --> 00:25:49,745 Hahn: I think there's a lot of challenges and frustration 496 00:25:49,834 --> 00:25:52,964 that goes on a case that has gone this long. 497 00:25:53,042 --> 00:25:56,422 Beery: As happens with most cases, leads dry up 498 00:25:56,500 --> 00:26:02,330 and tips stop coming in, and you pretty much feel 499 00:26:02,417 --> 00:26:06,497 like you've worked to the end of where you can go. 500 00:26:06,584 --> 00:26:16,964 ?? 501 00:26:17,042 --> 00:26:21,712 Maybe he's dead. Maybe he's in jail somewhere. 502 00:26:21,792 --> 00:26:24,882 It may have been an illness or an injury or something 503 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,540 that made him feel less likely to get away with it, 504 00:26:27,626 --> 00:26:30,166 or there may be victims that we don't know about. 505 00:26:30,250 --> 00:26:33,750 O'Toole: Could be that he did engage in crimes 506 00:26:33,834 --> 00:26:36,294 but those crimes weren't reported. 507 00:26:36,375 --> 00:26:38,415 Beery: Highly unlikely that he probably completely stopped 508 00:26:38,500 --> 00:26:41,750 100%, but it's just really hard to know. 509 00:26:41,834 --> 00:26:44,134 Jordan: Ultimately, the investigation 510 00:26:44,209 --> 00:26:47,959 into the norcal rapist ground to a halt, 511 00:26:48,042 --> 00:26:50,292 no hint of an arrest on the horizon. 512 00:26:50,375 --> 00:26:53,495 I felt like I had failed... Some sort of sense 513 00:26:53,584 --> 00:26:57,294 of letting down all of these women. 514 00:26:57,375 --> 00:27:00,455 Anderson: As time went by, I started losing hope 515 00:27:00,542 --> 00:27:02,542 because it had been a long time. 516 00:27:02,626 --> 00:27:04,126 He hadn't struck again, 517 00:27:04,209 --> 00:27:09,249 and I just tried my best to move on with my life. 518 00:27:09,334 --> 00:27:11,504 Schubert: It is revolutionary. 519 00:27:11,584 --> 00:27:14,174 I asked one of my colleagues that's one of the brainiacs 520 00:27:14,250 --> 00:27:16,130 working on it, "is this gonna work?" 521 00:27:16,209 --> 00:27:17,879 And it got a hit. 522 00:27:17,959 --> 00:27:20,169 It was a huge surprise. 523 00:27:20,250 --> 00:27:26,330 ?? 524 00:27:28,334 --> 00:27:38,754 ?? 525 00:27:40,167 --> 00:27:42,327 DNA is the greatest tool ever given to law enforcement 526 00:27:42,417 --> 00:27:43,827 to find the truth. 527 00:27:43,918 --> 00:27:46,918 The Sacramento district attorney, Anne Marie schubert, 528 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,500 and her team that employed investigative genetic genealogy 529 00:27:51,584 --> 00:27:54,044 are really on the cutting edge 530 00:27:54,125 --> 00:27:56,625 to resolve these decades-old cold cases. 531 00:27:56,709 --> 00:27:59,329 They are taking crime-scene DNA, 532 00:27:59,417 --> 00:28:02,327 analyzing that with genealogy sites 533 00:28:02,417 --> 00:28:06,127 in order to identify an unknown suspect. 534 00:28:06,209 --> 00:28:09,749 Jackson: D.A. Schubert had been looking at cold cases 535 00:28:09,834 --> 00:28:13,544 that could be solved using this new DNA technology. 536 00:28:13,626 --> 00:28:17,206 The first case that she tackled was the golden state killer case 537 00:28:17,292 --> 00:28:20,712 that had been unresolved since the 1970s. 538 00:28:20,792 --> 00:28:22,922 Schubert: On the golden state killer case, 539 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,420 I asked one of my colleagues that's one of the brainiacs, 540 00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:28,170 "is this gonna work?" 541 00:28:28,250 --> 00:28:30,750 And the answer was, "it's our greatest hope." 542 00:28:30,834 --> 00:28:32,214 Man: The accused golden state killer 543 00:28:32,292 --> 00:28:33,632 just made his first court appearance, 544 00:28:33,709 --> 00:28:35,329 and you might be shocked at how police cracked 545 00:28:35,417 --> 00:28:37,877 this 30-year-old cold case. 546 00:28:37,959 --> 00:28:39,879 The golden state killer was the first case 547 00:28:39,959 --> 00:28:43,419 that we worked on that involved genetic genealogy. 548 00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:45,540 Police say they found him using information 549 00:28:45,626 --> 00:28:47,326 from one of those genealogy websites 550 00:28:47,417 --> 00:28:48,787 that will tell you about your ancestry 551 00:28:48,876 --> 00:28:50,916 or help you find a long-lost relative. 552 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,250 Schubert: Essentially, you take that DNA from your crime scene 553 00:28:54,334 --> 00:28:56,674 and you develop a profile, 554 00:28:56,751 --> 00:29:00,791 and then you utilize your genealogy site to determine 555 00:29:00,876 --> 00:29:04,626 if there's any relatives that may match your suspect. 556 00:29:04,709 --> 00:29:08,129 Man: They compared the genetic profile to those online 557 00:29:08,209 --> 00:29:11,329 and identified potential relatives. 558 00:29:11,417 --> 00:29:15,667 That finally led police to the alleged serial killer. 559 00:29:15,751 --> 00:29:18,331 Once I became aware that an arrest was made on that, 560 00:29:18,417 --> 00:29:20,747 my first thought was, "we have to do this with norcal. 561 00:29:20,834 --> 00:29:22,174 You know, we have to do this." 562 00:29:22,250 --> 00:29:27,130 I really felt like that was our last hope. 563 00:29:28,667 --> 00:29:33,247 The norcal rapist obviously left this DNA at the crime scene. 564 00:29:35,709 --> 00:29:39,289 Beery: That DNA was given to the crime lab. 565 00:29:39,375 --> 00:29:42,165 The crime lab was able to develop a profile. 566 00:29:42,250 --> 00:29:45,710 Campbell: And that was then uploaded to gedmatch. 567 00:29:45,792 --> 00:29:52,042 ?? 568 00:29:52,125 --> 00:29:54,075 Jackson: Investigators are on edge. 569 00:29:54,167 --> 00:29:56,827 They're waiting and hoping between a possible match 570 00:29:56,918 --> 00:29:58,538 between the crime-scene DNA 571 00:29:58,626 --> 00:30:03,416 and a relative's DNA in the gedmatch database. 572 00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:06,290 They got a hit, and it wasn't an exact hit, 573 00:30:06,375 --> 00:30:10,245 but it was someone they felt was related to the norcal rapist. 574 00:30:10,334 --> 00:30:14,084 And they had a very narrow link on a very close relative. 575 00:30:14,167 --> 00:30:16,287 It was a huge surprise. 576 00:30:16,375 --> 00:30:18,165 Jackson: But, at this point, the police don't know 577 00:30:18,250 --> 00:30:19,540 who the suspect is. 578 00:30:19,626 --> 00:30:22,206 They only know who a close relative is. 579 00:30:22,292 --> 00:30:23,922 From there, you do the law-enforcement 580 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,290 work of building the trees. 581 00:30:25,375 --> 00:30:27,375 We have to figure out who are their parents, 582 00:30:27,459 --> 00:30:29,709 their grandparents, and beyond. 583 00:30:29,792 --> 00:30:33,672 Would be building family trees in order to get to our suspect. 584 00:30:33,751 --> 00:30:36,581 Moore: When you have a very close relative match, 585 00:30:36,667 --> 00:30:38,127 like in the norcal case, 586 00:30:38,209 --> 00:30:40,539 it involves much less tree-building 587 00:30:40,626 --> 00:30:43,956 because you really just have to identify their grandparents 588 00:30:44,042 --> 00:30:46,922 and then the descendants of those grandparents, 589 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,790 and one of those should be the suspect. 590 00:30:49,876 --> 00:30:53,626 Campbell: They're using census records and birth, 591 00:30:53,709 --> 00:30:55,289 adoption, marriage records, 592 00:30:55,375 --> 00:30:56,875 divorce records, military records, 593 00:30:56,959 --> 00:30:58,879 those kinds of things to get the information 594 00:30:58,959 --> 00:31:00,459 you need to build your trees. 595 00:31:00,542 --> 00:31:03,792 Then we can start eliminating people based on gender. 596 00:31:03,876 --> 00:31:06,786 Gafni: Eliminating females because they're not the suspect. 597 00:31:06,876 --> 00:31:10,076 Moore: Age, often, location. 598 00:31:10,167 --> 00:31:11,957 Gafni: People who live in other areas 599 00:31:12,042 --> 00:31:13,582 at the times of the crimes. 600 00:31:13,667 --> 00:31:17,707 Moore: Trying to narrow down the number of potential suspects. 601 00:31:17,792 --> 00:31:19,042 Campbell: We're obviously looking for somebody 602 00:31:19,125 --> 00:31:21,575 that fits the description and the age 603 00:31:21,667 --> 00:31:24,247 and the height, weight, and having a connection 604 00:31:24,334 --> 00:31:25,924 to the area where the crime occurred. 605 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,540 Gafni: Then you start looking at, 606 00:31:27,626 --> 00:31:29,826 "okay, we know certain guns were used in these crimes. 607 00:31:29,918 --> 00:31:32,328 Did this person own those guns? 608 00:31:32,417 --> 00:31:34,417 Is he registered for these firearms?" 609 00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:37,830 Finally, you narrow it down to one individual 610 00:31:37,918 --> 00:31:40,878 that you have all your high suspicions on. 611 00:31:40,959 --> 00:31:44,249 Campbell: At that point, we let the investigative agency 612 00:31:44,334 --> 00:31:46,334 know about the suspect. 613 00:31:46,417 --> 00:31:49,537 Beery: We had an actual photograph of this individual 614 00:31:49,626 --> 00:31:52,376 that we believed was our suspect. 615 00:31:52,459 --> 00:31:56,289 I almost was in shock because it was like, "holy cow. 616 00:31:56,375 --> 00:32:00,285 This is the person that I've been wondering about 617 00:32:00,375 --> 00:32:02,745 for the last 12 years." 618 00:32:02,834 --> 00:32:05,584 Schubert: Roy Charles waller. 619 00:32:05,667 --> 00:32:08,287 He's 58 years old. He's a white male. 620 00:32:08,375 --> 00:32:11,915 Woman: Waller lives in benicia, is married, has children, 621 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,580 and has worked at uc Berkeley for the last 25 years. 622 00:32:15,667 --> 00:32:18,747 He led a relatively quiet life in benicia, 623 00:32:18,834 --> 00:32:22,084 working over at the campus of uc Berkeley 624 00:32:22,167 --> 00:32:24,077 as a safety engineer. 625 00:32:24,167 --> 00:32:25,667 Gafni: He was married. 626 00:32:25,751 --> 00:32:28,381 His neighbors didn't know too much about him. 627 00:32:28,459 --> 00:32:30,169 Man: Neighbors at the benicia home 628 00:32:30,250 --> 00:32:32,630 where waller has lived with his wife are stunned. 629 00:32:32,709 --> 00:32:34,209 From a distance, he seemed normal. 630 00:32:34,292 --> 00:32:36,832 We're very surprised and obviously shocked. 631 00:32:36,918 --> 00:32:38,378 You never know, do you, 632 00:32:38,459 --> 00:32:41,329 for certain who or what your neighbors might be up to? 633 00:32:41,417 --> 00:32:42,827 Stanton: They would see him in his garage, 634 00:32:42,918 --> 00:32:45,668 tinkering with motorcycles and automobiles 635 00:32:45,751 --> 00:32:47,381 that he worked on. 636 00:32:47,459 --> 00:32:49,879 They didn't say he was very friendly. 637 00:32:49,959 --> 00:32:52,419 You were his former brother-in-law. 638 00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:54,790 Man: This family member in disbelief. 639 00:33:00,876 --> 00:33:02,576 This is the kind of guy that, if he did happen 640 00:33:02,667 --> 00:33:05,037 to get pulled over by the police or get a flat tire 641 00:33:05,125 --> 00:33:08,575 and have somebody offer to help him, he would be invisible. 642 00:33:08,667 --> 00:33:11,877 There was nothing that ever told police, 643 00:33:11,959 --> 00:33:13,879 "hey, you need to be looking at this guy." 644 00:33:13,959 --> 00:33:15,459 There was no hint at all. 645 00:33:15,542 --> 00:33:20,132 Waller has held a stable job for 25 years at uc Berkeley. 646 00:33:20,209 --> 00:33:21,789 They don't have any evidence that anything 647 00:33:21,876 --> 00:33:24,246 he did happened on the Berkeley campus 648 00:33:24,334 --> 00:33:26,754 or with any of the students there. 649 00:33:26,834 --> 00:33:28,834 Campbell: The Sacramento police department did a great job 650 00:33:28,918 --> 00:33:31,168 of taking that information and running with it 651 00:33:31,250 --> 00:33:33,500 and learning so much about the suspect 652 00:33:33,584 --> 00:33:35,964 in such a short period of time. 653 00:33:38,167 --> 00:33:39,827 Jackson: But in order to make an arrest, 654 00:33:39,918 --> 00:33:43,498 police need a current DNA sample from Roy waller 655 00:33:43,584 --> 00:33:46,504 to match it against the crime-scene DNA. 656 00:33:46,584 --> 00:33:49,634 Beery: What we normally do in these types of cases is 657 00:33:49,709 --> 00:33:53,789 to get what we call a surreptitious DNA sample. 658 00:33:53,876 --> 00:33:58,376 That DNA sample can come from a variety of ways. 659 00:33:58,459 --> 00:34:00,829 It can come from discarded trash. 660 00:34:00,918 --> 00:34:03,998 It can come from spitting on the sidewalk. 661 00:34:04,083 --> 00:34:06,463 It can come from touching an object. 662 00:34:06,542 --> 00:34:08,792 Gafni: They basically sat outside his house 663 00:34:08,876 --> 00:34:11,496 and waited for garbage day. 664 00:34:11,584 --> 00:34:15,214 They got a straw, a drinking straw, 665 00:34:15,292 --> 00:34:18,082 that had some of his DNA on it, 666 00:34:18,167 --> 00:34:20,917 and they pulled that from the garbage. 667 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,540 Beery: And the crime lab told us, 668 00:34:23,626 --> 00:34:26,036 "okay, this sample that you just brought me 669 00:34:26,125 --> 00:34:33,575 matches your DNA profile from your 2006 case." 670 00:34:33,667 --> 00:34:35,877 Gafni: That was the final nail in the coffin. 671 00:34:35,959 --> 00:34:38,129 Beery: And that gives us probable cause 672 00:34:38,209 --> 00:34:41,379 to get an arrest warrant for this individual 673 00:34:41,459 --> 00:34:44,539 and get him into custody. 674 00:34:44,626 --> 00:34:48,246 I just wanted to go and see with my own eyes 675 00:34:48,334 --> 00:34:52,214 and know whether or not it was him. 676 00:34:52,292 --> 00:34:55,042 He walked in. I could feel both of us just lose our breath. 677 00:34:55,125 --> 00:34:56,575 [Gasps] Like, gasped. 678 00:34:56,667 --> 00:34:59,827 My initial reaction was just shock. 679 00:35:08,626 --> 00:35:10,496 Jackson: The Sacramento police have matched the DNA 680 00:35:10,584 --> 00:35:14,334 from the crime scenes with that of a suspect, 681 00:35:14,417 --> 00:35:17,327 58-year-old Roy Charles waller. 682 00:35:17,417 --> 00:35:18,997 The plan is to arrest waller 683 00:35:19,083 --> 00:35:22,213 while he's on his way to work at uc Berkeley. 684 00:35:22,292 --> 00:35:24,332 Hahn: So, there's a lot of planning 685 00:35:24,417 --> 00:35:26,917 that goes into arrests like this. 686 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,040 Campbell: They knew exactly what time he came and went, 687 00:35:29,125 --> 00:35:31,495 what he drove, the routes he took to work, 688 00:35:31,584 --> 00:35:32,884 where he parked. 689 00:35:32,959 --> 00:35:36,629 Beery: Berkeley... that's a very, very busy area 690 00:35:36,709 --> 00:35:38,789 with a lot of college kids and that kind of thing, 691 00:35:38,876 --> 00:35:41,746 and so we had a lot of concern. 692 00:35:41,834 --> 00:35:44,634 Police knew from the norcal rapist's m.0. 693 00:35:44,709 --> 00:35:46,579 That he had used guns in the past, 694 00:35:46,667 --> 00:35:48,667 and as a result of that, they had reason to believe 695 00:35:48,751 --> 00:35:51,711 that this suspect could be armed and dangerous. 696 00:35:51,792 --> 00:35:53,582 You're always worried about what's gonna happen. 697 00:35:53,667 --> 00:35:55,497 How are they gonna react? Are they gonna be violent? 698 00:35:55,584 --> 00:35:58,964 Are they gonna try to harm the officers? 699 00:35:59,042 --> 00:36:02,502 But when police moved in on waller, he didn't resist. 700 00:36:02,584 --> 00:36:05,834 Hahn: If we said the perfect way to make an arrest, 701 00:36:05,918 --> 00:36:07,708 the perfect circumstances, that's what happened. 702 00:36:07,792 --> 00:36:09,252 There was no violence. 703 00:36:09,334 --> 00:36:11,334 Beery: He was very cooperative. No one was injured, 704 00:36:11,417 --> 00:36:13,667 and then he was transported back to Sacramento. 705 00:36:13,751 --> 00:36:16,791 I had the proverbial chills down the spine, 706 00:36:16,876 --> 00:36:20,746 if you will, almost to the point of euphoria 707 00:36:20,834 --> 00:36:24,294 as it set in that they finally got this guy. 708 00:36:24,375 --> 00:36:27,125 It was a fantastic feeling. 709 00:36:29,334 --> 00:36:31,884 Reisig: The suspect was a real-life bogeyman 710 00:36:31,959 --> 00:36:34,079 who crept into his victims' homes 711 00:36:34,167 --> 00:36:36,957 under the cover of darkness and attacked them 712 00:36:37,042 --> 00:36:39,002 when they were most vulnerable. 713 00:36:39,083 --> 00:36:41,083 Keene: On the morning of September 20th, 714 00:36:41,167 --> 00:36:43,457 we got sort of a cryptic e-mail 715 00:36:43,542 --> 00:36:45,292 from the Sacramento d.A.S office. 716 00:36:45,375 --> 00:36:47,575 Announcing there had been a major development 717 00:36:47,667 --> 00:36:49,327 in the norcal rapist case. 718 00:36:49,417 --> 00:36:52,167 Yesterday, Sacramento police detectives arrested 719 00:36:52,250 --> 00:36:54,250 Roy Charles waller, 720 00:36:54,334 --> 00:36:59,584 a 58-year-old man living in benicia, 721 00:36:59,667 --> 00:37:01,707 the suspect who we believe is responsible 722 00:37:01,792 --> 00:37:04,082 for numerous horrific crimes 723 00:37:04,167 --> 00:37:07,207 where he terrorized women in jurisdictions 724 00:37:07,292 --> 00:37:08,882 throughout northern California. 725 00:37:08,959 --> 00:37:11,669 Stanton: They had the d.A.S from the various counties, 726 00:37:11,751 --> 00:37:14,171 dozens of law-enforcement officers saying, 727 00:37:14,250 --> 00:37:17,750 "we cracked one of the biggest cold cases ever." 728 00:37:17,834 --> 00:37:20,964 It was a momentous day. 729 00:37:21,042 --> 00:37:22,712 Through an incredible partnership 730 00:37:22,792 --> 00:37:27,082 between science and passionate policework, 731 00:37:27,167 --> 00:37:30,037 the answer that many have waited so long 732 00:37:30,125 --> 00:37:34,785 has come to us in the last 10 days. 733 00:37:34,876 --> 00:37:37,956 The answer has always been in the DNA. 734 00:37:38,042 --> 00:37:40,582 They got him. They got him. 735 00:37:40,667 --> 00:37:41,877 DNA got him. 736 00:37:41,959 --> 00:37:43,499 And I remember saying, "thank you, thank you, 737 00:37:43,584 --> 00:37:45,004 thank you, thank you," 738 00:37:45,083 --> 00:37:47,083 so many times and just was, like, hysterical, 739 00:37:47,167 --> 00:37:49,377 and I kept repeating, "it's been 27 years. 740 00:37:49,459 --> 00:37:51,129 It's been 27 years." 741 00:37:51,209 --> 00:37:52,329 Beery: It was great to know 742 00:37:52,417 --> 00:37:54,167 not only could I stop thinking about 743 00:37:54,250 --> 00:37:56,670 who this person was but mostly 744 00:37:56,751 --> 00:37:59,671 that all of my victims could stop thinking about 745 00:37:59,751 --> 00:38:02,921 who this person was and where he was. 746 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:08,790 Genealogy is going to serve more and more cold cases. 747 00:38:08,876 --> 00:38:12,246 Moore: With genetic genealogy, we're coming for you. 748 00:38:12,334 --> 00:38:15,754 We are going to figure out who you are eventually. 749 00:38:15,834 --> 00:38:19,674 No one is gonna be safe from the long arm of the law. 750 00:38:19,751 --> 00:38:22,251 It is going to revolutionize crime-solving. 751 00:38:22,334 --> 00:38:23,674 There's no question in my mind. 752 00:38:23,751 --> 00:38:26,581 I would be very scared if I were a suspect. 753 00:38:26,667 --> 00:38:29,167 Keene: Waller was booked into the Sacramento county jail 754 00:38:29,250 --> 00:38:32,290 on sexual-assault charges that could bring a life sentence 755 00:38:32,375 --> 00:38:33,785 for him if he's convicted. 756 00:38:33,876 --> 00:38:36,076 Woman: The suspected norcal rapist was in court 757 00:38:36,167 --> 00:38:37,747 for the very first time today. 758 00:38:37,834 --> 00:38:40,254 He did not enter a plea for the charges listed against him 759 00:38:40,334 --> 00:38:41,834 by a Sacramento county judge. 760 00:38:41,918 --> 00:38:44,458 Several of the people in the audience were his victims, 761 00:38:44,542 --> 00:38:47,962 who wanted to look him in the eye 762 00:38:48,042 --> 00:38:51,502 and show him that they had survived. 763 00:38:51,584 --> 00:38:53,584 Earnest-payte: I was gonna be in the room with him 764 00:38:53,667 --> 00:38:55,207 for the first time in 27 years. 765 00:38:55,292 --> 00:38:57,292 I was sitting with another one of the victims, 766 00:38:57,375 --> 00:38:59,205 and we were holding our hands really tightly 767 00:38:59,292 --> 00:39:01,252 and our faces were kind of right next to each other. 768 00:39:01,334 --> 00:39:03,884 When he walked in, I could feel both of us just lose our breath. 769 00:39:03,959 --> 00:39:06,039 [Gasps] 770 00:39:07,709 --> 00:39:10,629 Like, gasped when he walked in. 771 00:39:10,709 --> 00:39:14,919 It actually felt good to see him in a cage, 772 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,420 to see him behind bars. 773 00:39:17,500 --> 00:39:19,670 It was very empowering. 774 00:39:19,751 --> 00:39:24,711 There's a sense of relief, but there's also this sense of 775 00:39:24,792 --> 00:39:27,252 "now I can put a face to you." 776 00:39:27,334 --> 00:39:30,004 Anderson: I think I went to the arraignment 777 00:39:30,083 --> 00:39:33,503 just because I wanted to know whether or not it was him, 778 00:39:33,584 --> 00:39:40,294 and when I looked at him, I knew immediately that was him. 779 00:39:40,375 --> 00:39:43,125 The defendant kind of stared at the judge 780 00:39:43,209 --> 00:39:45,749 and was softly kind of shaking his head. 781 00:39:45,834 --> 00:39:48,714 It almost seemed like he was questioning 782 00:39:48,792 --> 00:39:52,422 whether he's the wrong guy behind bars for these crimes. 783 00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:55,000 Earnest-payte was the first of 10 victims 784 00:39:55,083 --> 00:39:58,293 who allegedly fell at the hands of Roy Charles waller. 785 00:39:58,375 --> 00:40:00,245 A range of emotions came over her 786 00:40:00,334 --> 00:40:02,294 as she saw waller behind bars 787 00:40:02,375 --> 00:40:05,245 for the first time Monday afternoon. 788 00:40:05,334 --> 00:40:10,004 As he left, he turned around, kind of looked over the gallery, 789 00:40:10,083 --> 00:40:13,833 and then looked right at us. 790 00:40:13,918 --> 00:40:16,078 I felt like the blood left my body at that point, 791 00:40:16,167 --> 00:40:18,577 and I was terrified. 792 00:40:18,667 --> 00:40:21,417 I hate to say that out loud, 'cause I don't want him to think 793 00:40:21,500 --> 00:40:24,750 that he still can make me terrified. 794 00:40:24,834 --> 00:40:28,754 I want to go to every single court date 795 00:40:28,834 --> 00:40:30,504 where I can actually be of help. 796 00:40:30,584 --> 00:40:32,924 Earnest-payte: I am looking forward to getting on the stand 797 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,250 and telling the story to a jury. 798 00:40:35,334 --> 00:40:38,384 It will be a release for me. 799 00:40:38,459 --> 00:40:41,579 I'm willing to do whatever it is that I have to 800 00:40:41,667 --> 00:40:45,497 so that he gets the maximum sentence possible. 801 00:40:45,584 --> 00:40:53,504 I just think it's important that you say what happened, 802 00:40:53,584 --> 00:40:58,794 you know, and don't let people get away with evil stuff. 803 00:40:58,876 --> 00:41:02,626 This is, to me, like a miracle that, you know... 804 00:41:02,709 --> 00:41:05,629 That he got caught. 805 00:41:05,709 --> 00:41:12,709 ?? 806 00:41:12,792 --> 00:41:15,922 Police say that Roy waller had been working at the same job 807 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,790 at the university of California, Berkeley since 1992. 808 00:41:19,876 --> 00:41:21,576 After waller's arrest, 809 00:41:21,667 --> 00:41:23,497 two female staffers at the university 810 00:41:23,584 --> 00:41:27,384 reported that his disturbing stares made them feel so uneasy 811 00:41:27,459 --> 00:41:30,419 that they avoided walking past his office. 812 00:41:30,500 --> 00:41:33,880 According to campus police and the Sacramento p.D., 813 00:41:33,959 --> 00:41:35,959 there is no indication that any crimes 814 00:41:36,042 --> 00:41:37,582 relating to the norcal rapist 815 00:41:37,667 --> 00:41:39,957 occurred within the campus community. 816 00:41:40,042 --> 00:41:42,082 Norcal survivors Nicole and maki 817 00:41:42,167 --> 00:41:44,497 attended waller's first court appearance. 818 00:41:44,584 --> 00:41:47,834 They're helping prosecutors with the case and grateful 819 00:41:47,918 --> 00:41:49,828 to see justice done. 820 00:41:49,918 --> 00:41:51,208 I'm Donnie wahlberg. 821 00:41:51,292 --> 00:41:54,462 Thanks for watching "very scary people." 822 00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:59,062 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 66003

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