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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,789 --> 00:00:09,052 [Haunting music] 2 00:00:09,183 --> 00:00:12,055 [howling] 3 00:00:48,048 --> 00:00:50,963 NARRATOR: Can nature go crazy? 4 00:00:51,094 --> 00:00:53,923 Can animal violence and madness create bloodthirsty killers? 5 00:00:58,536 --> 00:01:01,235 Can nature take revenge? 6 00:01:01,278 --> 00:01:02,714 The answers are yes. 7 00:01:02,888 --> 00:01:07,415 Whether they're B-movies or elevated studio pictures-- 8 00:01:07,458 --> 00:01:08,981 There's something strange in the woods, 9 00:01:09,112 --> 00:01:11,636 and I don't know what it is. 10 00:01:11,810 --> 00:01:14,726 I feel like every animal out there is watching us. 11 00:01:14,770 --> 00:01:18,904 --when the director's vision is firing on all cylinders, 12 00:01:18,948 --> 00:01:22,952 you as the audience member are seated right there with 13 00:01:23,039 --> 00:01:24,519 the character that you're watching 14 00:01:24,562 --> 00:01:29,698 as they're experiencing this horror, and it's fucking great. 15 00:01:29,741 --> 00:01:30,568 [trumpeting] 16 00:01:30,612 --> 00:01:32,003 What the hell is that? 17 00:01:32,048 --> 00:01:35,138 Elephants! 18 00:01:35,182 --> 00:01:36,661 And they just don't seem to stop. 19 00:01:40,622 --> 00:01:44,582 That's what makes these greatest moments or these greatest films 20 00:01:44,756 --> 00:01:46,758 so special, so powerful. 21 00:01:49,761 --> 00:01:50,371 [screaming] 22 00:01:52,286 --> 00:01:53,765 JOSH MILLER: An animal attack movie 23 00:01:53,809 --> 00:01:57,595 is definitely a monster movie. 24 00:01:57,639 --> 00:02:00,424 It's the dragon in the cave that we should just not have gone 25 00:02:00,598 --> 00:02:03,993 to mess with or movies like Cujo, 26 00:02:04,167 --> 00:02:05,951 where it's like your best friend, 27 00:02:06,126 --> 00:02:09,868 and they become a monster. 28 00:02:10,042 --> 00:02:15,135 We're drawn to animal attacks movies, 29 00:02:15,178 --> 00:02:18,834 and we love movies about being the prey hunted 30 00:02:18,964 --> 00:02:23,752 by a natural predator, because on some level, 31 00:02:23,795 --> 00:02:24,144 we know it's true. 32 00:02:28,191 --> 00:02:32,716 If you plop us in the woods or on the ocean, 33 00:02:32,848 --> 00:02:39,202 and you put an apex predator in the picture, suddenly, 34 00:02:39,246 --> 00:02:43,554 we look like what we are, which are vulnerable, 35 00:02:43,685 --> 00:02:48,820 not very powerful little monkeys just waiting to be eaten. 36 00:02:55,218 --> 00:02:59,222 What are the must-see animal attack movies? 37 00:02:59,396 --> 00:03:01,224 The Birds, I remember the birds being 38 00:03:01,398 --> 00:03:04,749 terrifying when I was a child. 39 00:03:04,793 --> 00:03:07,796 The idea of taking day time and such mundane things 40 00:03:07,839 --> 00:03:09,189 as just regular birds. 41 00:03:14,150 --> 00:03:15,760 This killer is coming at you from every direction. 42 00:03:15,934 --> 00:03:17,762 Yeah, it was scary. 43 00:03:17,936 --> 00:03:19,764 Obviously, a bird can't really do that to you, 44 00:03:19,808 --> 00:03:21,418 but at the time, it seemed believable. 45 00:03:25,379 --> 00:03:27,032 Thing I love about the Birds is Tippi Hedren's 46 00:03:27,076 --> 00:03:29,296 performance, which is unhinged. 47 00:03:29,470 --> 00:03:31,472 I think you're the cause of all this. 48 00:03:31,646 --> 00:03:34,692 I think you're evil, evil! 49 00:03:34,866 --> 00:03:37,565 Just somebody who is clearly terrified, 50 00:03:37,695 --> 00:03:39,349 and in fear for their life, and in legitimate danger. 51 00:03:43,571 --> 00:03:45,790 It is such an iconic horror performance. 52 00:03:51,622 --> 00:03:54,930 The lasting impact of Alfred Hitchcock's the Birds, 53 00:03:54,973 --> 00:03:57,802 especially on animal attack movies, 54 00:03:57,976 --> 00:04:01,676 is you can see in anything where the idea is the slowly mounting 55 00:04:01,850 --> 00:04:09,161 number of animals, where there's inevitably going to be 56 00:04:09,336 --> 00:04:12,121 that shot where someone's looking around 57 00:04:12,208 --> 00:04:14,515 and you see all these animals that, on their own, 58 00:04:14,689 --> 00:04:16,952 you would never be afraid of. 59 00:04:16,995 --> 00:04:19,346 And it's the idea that if there's enough of any species 60 00:04:19,433 --> 00:04:21,652 of animal, the sheer volume of them 61 00:04:21,783 --> 00:04:24,481 becomes very either unnerving or inevitably terrifying. 62 00:04:28,137 --> 00:04:30,705 You see a movie a hundred times, and then at one 63 00:04:30,879 --> 00:04:32,707 point, you go, what? 64 00:04:32,794 --> 00:04:34,622 We've got to get the children out of here. 65 00:04:34,665 --> 00:04:37,929 They're in the school, and outside the school, 66 00:04:38,103 --> 00:04:39,627 there's a bunch of birds. 67 00:04:39,670 --> 00:04:42,760 So the teachers go, we got to get out of here! 68 00:04:42,891 --> 00:04:44,588 No, you're right where you're supposed to be. 69 00:04:44,762 --> 00:04:47,852 [screaming] 70 00:04:51,639 --> 00:04:53,380 It's like Hooper, Brody, and Quint going, 71 00:04:53,554 --> 00:04:55,817 maybe we should think about this, Quint. 72 00:04:55,991 --> 00:04:59,951 Let's take a dip, and we'll talk about it in the water. 73 00:04:59,995 --> 00:05:02,084 JOE HILL: It is a gripping vision 74 00:05:02,258 --> 00:05:05,783 of social breakdown in the face of an unexpected 75 00:05:05,914 --> 00:05:06,306 and unexplained threat. 76 00:05:10,962 --> 00:05:13,400 It's Jaws before there was jaws. 77 00:05:18,579 --> 00:05:20,581 Willard, an animal attack movie 78 00:05:20,624 --> 00:05:26,891 that came out before Jaws, ended up with its own imitators. 79 00:05:26,935 --> 00:05:29,894 Maybe that was trying to go for a Birds vibe, but I think 80 00:05:30,068 --> 00:05:33,985 it's a very original movie, looking back at it, of just-- 81 00:05:34,072 --> 00:05:37,467 it's almost like a drama that had this weird element 82 00:05:37,641 --> 00:05:38,468 of the killer animals. 83 00:05:42,254 --> 00:05:45,257 His dad died; and Ernest Borgnine 84 00:05:45,388 --> 00:05:47,912 is running his dad's company, and doesn't respect him, 85 00:05:47,956 --> 00:05:50,567 and seems to actually take pleasure in teasing 86 00:05:50,611 --> 00:05:52,830 him and pranking him at work. 87 00:05:52,961 --> 00:05:55,050 I carried your father on my back for years, 88 00:05:55,093 --> 00:05:58,053 and now I'm carrying you. 89 00:05:58,096 --> 00:06:00,621 Like a lot of children who grew up in the '70s I was 90 00:06:00,795 --> 00:06:02,057 terrified of Ernest Borgnine. 91 00:06:02,100 --> 00:06:03,841 What's the matter, Tiger? 92 00:06:03,885 --> 00:06:04,494 Got a little nervous stomach? 93 00:06:08,672 --> 00:06:11,153 So to see him attacked by rats was actually 94 00:06:11,327 --> 00:06:13,460 something quite pleasant. 95 00:06:13,634 --> 00:06:14,765 Tear him up! 96 00:06:14,896 --> 00:06:15,636 No, wait. 97 00:06:15,679 --> 00:06:17,159 No, no! 98 00:06:17,202 --> 00:06:19,640 No, wait, wait, no! 99 00:06:19,814 --> 00:06:23,470 No, no, no, wait, no, no, no! 100 00:06:23,644 --> 00:06:24,253 No! 101 00:06:24,427 --> 00:06:25,254 Let me out! 102 00:06:25,428 --> 00:06:27,996 Let me out! 103 00:06:28,039 --> 00:06:28,605 [screaming] 104 00:06:29,693 --> 00:06:30,825 I loved Willard. 105 00:06:30,912 --> 00:06:34,524 It was the perfect amount of rats. 106 00:06:34,698 --> 00:06:35,699 It was creepy. 107 00:06:35,873 --> 00:06:37,484 It was fun. 108 00:06:37,658 --> 00:06:40,487 Willard felt like he could really have happened anywhere, 109 00:06:40,530 --> 00:06:42,967 if you just pissed off a kid who was friends with a rat, 110 00:06:43,011 --> 00:06:45,187 and the rat decided, you know, I got friends, too, 111 00:06:45,317 --> 00:06:46,710 and we're going to get you. 112 00:06:46,884 --> 00:06:49,844 [screaming] 113 00:06:51,149 --> 00:06:51,672 Do something! 114 00:06:51,846 --> 00:06:52,977 No, don't! 115 00:06:53,021 --> 00:06:54,588 Don't leave me. 116 00:06:54,631 --> 00:06:55,676 It was like a gang. 117 00:06:55,719 --> 00:06:59,244 It was like the Crips but with rats. 118 00:06:59,288 --> 00:07:00,898 Oh, god! 119 00:07:01,072 --> 00:07:02,334 Emma, Emma, get something on his body. 120 00:07:02,465 --> 00:07:03,814 It'll neutralize the venom. 121 00:07:03,858 --> 00:07:07,557 These nature strikes back movies culturally caught 122 00:07:07,601 --> 00:07:09,864 the wave of environmental awareness 123 00:07:09,907 --> 00:07:13,171 in the late '60s or early '70s, where you got Willard, 124 00:07:13,215 --> 00:07:17,524 Ben, Frogs. 125 00:07:17,567 --> 00:07:20,570 And the underlying score was that mankind 126 00:07:20,701 --> 00:07:23,094 has pushed nature around, and now 127 00:07:23,138 --> 00:07:23,791 nature is going to push back. 128 00:07:27,838 --> 00:07:29,927 And then it just became, what animal haven't we done? 129 00:07:30,058 --> 00:07:31,886 Billions of dollars have been spent to make these 130 00:07:32,060 --> 00:07:34,889 nuclear plants safe, fail-safe. 131 00:07:35,019 --> 00:07:38,806 The odds against anything going wrong are astronomical, doctor. 132 00:07:38,980 --> 00:07:41,461 I appreciate that, doctor, but let me ask you-- 133 00:07:41,548 --> 00:07:43,419 in all your fail-safe techniques, 134 00:07:43,550 --> 00:07:45,943 is there any provision against an attack by killer bees? 135 00:07:46,074 --> 00:07:47,728 [beeping] 136 00:07:47,771 --> 00:07:50,731 The Swarm should have worked, but 137 00:07:50,774 --> 00:07:51,688 people aren't afraid of bees. 138 00:08:07,791 --> 00:08:09,924 Every sort of animal was running amok 139 00:08:09,967 --> 00:08:12,404 at some point over the '70s. 140 00:08:12,579 --> 00:08:14,406 Squirm is another movie where it's 141 00:08:14,581 --> 00:08:17,584 not about mutated, over-sized whatever. 142 00:08:17,627 --> 00:08:20,848 It's basically taking a creature that people are grossed out 143 00:08:20,891 --> 00:08:22,719 by anyway and saying, well, what if there were 144 00:08:22,763 --> 00:08:24,199 lots, and lots, and lots of them, 145 00:08:24,373 --> 00:08:25,505 and they all turned on humanity? 146 00:08:35,645 --> 00:08:39,213 Very few things in horror movies that disturbed me. 147 00:08:39,388 --> 00:08:41,433 Squirm is one of them. 148 00:08:41,607 --> 00:08:45,089 Directed by the great Jeff Lieberman, 149 00:08:45,133 --> 00:08:47,657 and I believe he had the idea for the story when 150 00:08:47,788 --> 00:08:56,927 lightning struck the ground in his backyard, 151 00:08:56,971 --> 00:08:59,060 and all the worms came up. 152 00:08:59,190 --> 00:09:04,152 But he witnessed this as a kid, and it stuck with him. 153 00:09:04,195 --> 00:09:07,416 There's an homage to Psycho, which 154 00:09:07,590 --> 00:09:12,639 is insanely disturbing, albeit so ridiculous, it's funny. 155 00:09:16,512 --> 00:09:17,818 He had Rick Baker doing his effects. 156 00:09:17,992 --> 00:09:18,775 It's an early Rick Baker film. 157 00:09:24,389 --> 00:09:26,566 The whole worm face thing where you see them burrowing 158 00:09:26,653 --> 00:09:31,788 into the guy's flesh, there's lots 159 00:09:31,962 --> 00:09:39,665 of great kind of icky, scary, gross moments in that film. 160 00:09:39,753 --> 00:09:42,277 So these movies were well-intentioned and all about 161 00:09:42,407 --> 00:09:45,976 the consequence of treating the environment poorly, 162 00:09:51,415 --> 00:09:54,071 And then comes Jaws. 163 00:09:54,202 --> 00:09:58,902 And Jaws becomes not only the most important and influential 164 00:09:58,989 --> 00:10:01,601 animal attack movie of all time, but potentially the biggest 165 00:10:01,644 --> 00:10:03,080 game-changer in Hollywood history 166 00:10:03,211 --> 00:10:05,300 in terms of the trajectory of movies 167 00:10:05,430 --> 00:10:10,348 moving forward from 1975 on. 168 00:10:10,479 --> 00:10:13,090 JOE HILL: As far as, what is the greatest animal 169 00:10:13,221 --> 00:10:16,180 attacks film of all time? 170 00:10:16,311 --> 00:10:17,878 This one, there's not a lot of suspense. 171 00:10:24,449 --> 00:10:28,018 It's pretty clear the greatest animal attacks film of all time 172 00:10:28,062 --> 00:10:32,153 is Jaws. 173 00:10:32,283 --> 00:10:34,198 I think everyone in my generation, 174 00:10:34,242 --> 00:10:37,724 when you ask them about their favorite movie, 175 00:10:37,811 --> 00:10:45,079 they go for Jaws, because that film is absolutely perfect. 176 00:10:45,122 --> 00:10:46,341 It's like, what did he do there? 177 00:10:46,471 --> 00:10:47,647 It's insane. 178 00:10:47,690 --> 00:10:50,693 It's like he took a B-monster movie 179 00:10:50,824 --> 00:10:52,434 and changed cinema forever. 180 00:10:56,307 --> 00:10:58,658 What is so brilliant about Jaws 181 00:10:58,832 --> 00:11:01,878 is obviously Spielberg at the beginning of his career. 182 00:11:01,922 --> 00:11:03,750 And we've all heard the story, and the shark 183 00:11:03,924 --> 00:11:06,317 named Bruce didn't work, and all that stuff. 184 00:11:06,404 --> 00:11:11,018 It is a perfect example of how mistakes and failures 185 00:11:11,061 --> 00:11:12,933 are often the doorways to gold. 186 00:11:16,066 --> 00:11:18,765 The solution is what becomes iconic. 187 00:11:21,768 --> 00:11:24,945 The terror of Jaws is the confidence 188 00:11:24,988 --> 00:11:28,513 that this genius director had in just 189 00:11:28,644 --> 00:11:31,691 showing as the camera comes in. 190 00:11:31,734 --> 00:11:35,390 Roy Scheider sitting on that beach looking like, 191 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:36,826 that is the horror. 192 00:11:36,957 --> 00:11:38,567 [screaming] 193 00:11:38,654 --> 00:11:40,787 --the office and a garbage truck next to the office. 194 00:11:40,961 --> 00:11:43,833 It's like, you can build the coolest robot 195 00:11:43,964 --> 00:11:47,141 shark of all time, but they don't strike fear 196 00:11:47,271 --> 00:11:49,752 into my heart the way that those really excellently 197 00:11:49,796 --> 00:11:51,406 executed ones can do. 198 00:11:51,536 --> 00:11:53,016 I can go slow ahead. 199 00:11:53,060 --> 00:11:53,930 Come on down and chum some of this shit. 200 00:11:58,848 --> 00:12:00,415 I think I saw Jaws when I was about 10-- 201 00:12:00,545 --> 00:12:01,808 You're going to need a bigger boat. 202 00:12:01,938 --> 00:12:03,287 --and I was sitting next to my cousin. 203 00:12:03,548 --> 00:12:07,422 You have that scene where they go out to the little boat, 204 00:12:07,465 --> 00:12:09,816 and he sees the big shark tooth, which already had me. 205 00:12:09,946 --> 00:12:12,427 And I was like, get out of that water. 206 00:12:12,557 --> 00:12:17,432 And then when the head comes rolling through that open spot, 207 00:12:17,562 --> 00:12:22,698 I was so jarred, I jumped out of my seat into my cousin's lap. 208 00:12:22,829 --> 00:12:25,396 So Jaws holds for me some of the biggest scares 209 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:26,963 I ever had as a horror fan. 210 00:12:31,794 --> 00:12:36,190 It's the sound of it that's so awful. 211 00:12:36,233 --> 00:12:38,366 It's just like that first grab down, and she goes, [gurgling].. 212 00:12:38,496 --> 00:12:40,629 You go, oh god, you know. 213 00:12:44,024 --> 00:12:45,982 And as a kid, you're believing, well, she 214 00:12:46,026 --> 00:12:47,767 can grab on that buoy, and she's going to be OK. 215 00:12:47,854 --> 00:12:50,204 No, she's not going to be OK. 216 00:12:50,290 --> 00:12:51,988 God, please, no! 217 00:12:55,818 --> 00:12:57,080 Nobody wanted to go to the beach. 218 00:12:57,211 --> 00:12:58,865 Nobody wanted to get in the water. 219 00:12:58,995 --> 00:13:02,085 It was just like, everyone was convinced 220 00:13:02,172 --> 00:13:05,219 that a gigantic shark could come up in water this deep 221 00:13:05,262 --> 00:13:06,829 and just bite your legs off. 222 00:13:10,093 --> 00:13:13,705 It caused such a weird psychological crater 223 00:13:13,749 --> 00:13:15,795 in America in particular. 224 00:13:15,838 --> 00:13:17,144 People just got it in their heads 225 00:13:17,274 --> 00:13:22,018 that beaches weren't safe unless we made them shark-free. 226 00:13:22,149 --> 00:13:24,586 And it became popular for people to just 227 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,591 go out and kill as many sharks as possible on trips. 228 00:13:29,634 --> 00:13:33,943 Some scientists say that only now are certain shark species 229 00:13:33,987 --> 00:13:38,295 recovering from the over-harvesting and excessive 230 00:13:38,426 --> 00:13:39,993 hunting in the wake of Jaws. 231 00:13:40,123 --> 00:13:42,082 For Christ's sake, tomorrow's the 4th of July, 232 00:13:42,256 --> 00:13:45,868 and we will be open for business. 233 00:13:45,912 --> 00:13:50,786 The movie holds up after so many years. 234 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,266 I had a couple of friends who had 235 00:13:52,570 --> 00:13:56,357 never seen it, which you always go, who hasn't seen Jaws? 236 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,055 And we had three people with us that had never seen Jaws, 237 00:13:59,142 --> 00:14:00,665 and they were just horrified. 238 00:14:05,105 --> 00:14:07,716 So I was just like, oh wow, OK, so you can 239 00:14:07,803 --> 00:14:08,935 still scare people with this. 240 00:14:36,745 --> 00:14:37,702 MAN: Have they pushed him too far? 241 00:14:45,536 --> 00:14:47,887 WOMAN: Clovis. 242 00:14:47,930 --> 00:14:51,238 [screaming] 243 00:15:06,340 --> 00:15:08,255 TED GEOGHEGAN: My favorite animal attack 244 00:15:08,429 --> 00:15:12,824 movie is Joe Dante's Piranha. 245 00:15:12,955 --> 00:15:15,436 It had come out shortly after Jaws, 246 00:15:15,610 --> 00:15:17,786 and they knew exactly what they were doing with this movie. 247 00:15:20,832 --> 00:15:24,445 The water is filled with carnivorous fish, piranha. 248 00:15:24,619 --> 00:15:26,969 And they had a movie that, essentially, it was 249 00:15:27,100 --> 00:15:29,145 just Jaws with a thousand jaws. 250 00:15:38,850 --> 00:15:41,375 The craziest thing about Piranha 251 00:15:41,462 --> 00:15:44,552 is that it was written by the great American screenwriter 252 00:15:44,682 --> 00:15:46,423 and novelist John Sayles. 253 00:15:46,597 --> 00:15:48,730 Nice night, huh? 254 00:15:48,860 --> 00:15:51,951 And finding out that John Sayles wrote the script 255 00:15:52,125 --> 00:15:54,997 for Piranha is a little bit like learning that John Steinbeck 256 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,434 wrote the script for Porky's. 257 00:15:57,608 --> 00:16:02,309 There's a huge cognitive dissonance there. 258 00:16:02,483 --> 00:16:04,006 One of the things I love so much about Piranha 259 00:16:04,180 --> 00:16:07,488 is that it's so shameless in what it does. 260 00:16:07,662 --> 00:16:09,490 The movie literally starts with a character 261 00:16:09,620 --> 00:16:11,579 playing a Jaws video game. 262 00:16:15,322 --> 00:16:17,411 And it never lets up throughout the entire thing. 263 00:16:17,585 --> 00:16:20,414 This is early Joe Dante, pre-Gremlins, 264 00:16:20,588 --> 00:16:21,981 when he is just going nuts. 265 00:16:26,159 --> 00:16:28,161 Joe Dante does what Steven Spielberg would 266 00:16:28,291 --> 00:16:29,901 never dream of doing, and he actually 267 00:16:30,076 --> 00:16:32,165 has POV shots of the piranha. 268 00:16:32,295 --> 00:16:34,645 We actually follow the piranha as they 269 00:16:34,689 --> 00:16:38,562 skimmer, skimmer, skimmer right up to people's butts, 270 00:16:38,649 --> 00:16:40,956 right up to their boobs. 271 00:16:41,130 --> 00:16:45,308 It's pretty crass, but it's silly, wonderful 1970s crass 272 00:16:45,352 --> 00:16:47,006 that everyone is having a good time with. 273 00:16:51,184 --> 00:16:53,229 HEIDI HONEYCUTT: I think I saw the movie for the first time 274 00:16:53,273 --> 00:16:57,364 when I was very little, and I didn't ever 275 00:16:57,538 --> 00:16:59,801 think about piranhas biting my butt before when 276 00:16:59,844 --> 00:17:01,020 I was in an inner tube. 277 00:17:01,150 --> 00:17:03,500 But I thought about it every day since then 278 00:17:03,674 --> 00:17:05,589 because of this film. 279 00:17:05,675 --> 00:17:06,415 Help me! 280 00:17:11,464 --> 00:17:14,119 The other thing about Piranha is 281 00:17:14,207 --> 00:17:18,211 it's the second best animal attacks movie written by John 282 00:17:18,253 --> 00:17:21,257 Sayles, and he only wrote two. 283 00:17:35,663 --> 00:17:39,841 Alligator, which is another John Sayles bad animal movie, 284 00:17:40,015 --> 00:17:43,366 in the '70s and '80s, you could buy baby crocodiles, 285 00:17:43,453 --> 00:17:45,542 and bring them home, and keep them in your aquarium. 286 00:17:45,586 --> 00:17:47,153 But then when they started to get too big, 287 00:17:47,327 --> 00:17:50,417 people would flush them down the toilet. 288 00:17:50,547 --> 00:17:53,637 And so this imagined a alligator getting flushed down 289 00:17:53,768 --> 00:17:56,162 the toilet in the 1970s, and encountering some kind 290 00:17:56,336 --> 00:18:00,427 of toxic slime, and eventually becoming massive, feeding off 291 00:18:00,601 --> 00:18:02,298 derelicts and stray children. 292 00:18:07,695 --> 00:18:10,524 Alligator is brilliant. 293 00:18:10,698 --> 00:18:13,309 It's treated as a very serious crisis, 294 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,007 but of course, you have a cop that no one believes, 295 00:18:16,138 --> 00:18:18,314 and then until it starts to go wrong. 296 00:18:18,358 --> 00:18:20,403 An when it starts to go wrong, that's really where it becomes 297 00:18:20,577 --> 00:18:21,143 really fun. 298 00:18:27,497 --> 00:18:29,978 And it has, I think, one of the all-time great animal 299 00:18:30,065 --> 00:18:32,111 attack moments, especially, you see it at a young age, 300 00:18:32,285 --> 00:18:34,765 and it just fries in your mind, which 301 00:18:34,852 --> 00:18:37,377 is a kid at a birthday party. 302 00:18:37,420 --> 00:18:39,248 They're dressed up as pirates, and they're 303 00:18:39,422 --> 00:18:41,468 making him innocently walk the plank, 304 00:18:41,642 --> 00:18:43,992 which is the diving board of his swimming pool. 305 00:18:44,079 --> 00:18:46,560 And they turn on the lights, and the alligator's in there. 306 00:18:56,178 --> 00:18:58,572 It took a lot of inspiration from Jaws. 307 00:19:04,273 --> 00:19:06,797 Our city needs us in this moment. 308 00:19:06,884 --> 00:19:10,279 We've got to not let anybody know that there's this problem 309 00:19:10,453 --> 00:19:12,455 right under the surface. 310 00:19:12,542 --> 00:19:15,458 And if we can keep it a secret and we can hire some yahoos 311 00:19:15,545 --> 00:19:16,938 with shotguns to take care of this for us, 312 00:19:17,025 --> 00:19:18,592 we're going to be OK. 313 00:19:18,679 --> 00:19:21,247 I've flown in Colonel Brock to take charge of the operation. 314 00:19:21,421 --> 00:19:22,248 Take charge? 315 00:19:22,378 --> 00:19:23,814 Yeah, well, he's hunted big game 316 00:19:23,988 --> 00:19:26,077 animals all over the world. 317 00:19:26,121 --> 00:19:30,952 It's about power, money, greedy, gross people that 318 00:19:30,995 --> 00:19:34,042 don't want to utilize science or education as a way 319 00:19:34,129 --> 00:19:36,523 of helping let people know what's going on 320 00:19:36,697 --> 00:19:39,439 and taking care of a problem. 321 00:19:39,569 --> 00:19:42,442 Bring in the big guns, and guess what? 322 00:19:42,485 --> 00:19:43,182 They get fucked. 323 00:19:51,451 --> 00:19:54,193 Sometimes, I love a film that makes 324 00:19:54,367 --> 00:19:58,414 it real hard to watch a character suffer or be killed. 325 00:20:04,725 --> 00:20:09,730 But sometimes, that's really fun when this person's a real piece 326 00:20:09,860 --> 00:20:11,471 of shit, and you get to watch them 327 00:20:11,601 --> 00:20:13,342 get chomped by an alligator. 328 00:20:13,473 --> 00:20:16,432 [screaming] 329 00:20:26,747 --> 00:20:31,534 Animal attack movies push all sorts of buttons. 330 00:20:31,665 --> 00:20:35,364 It's the classic storytelling structure. 331 00:20:35,538 --> 00:20:38,628 For man versus man, man versus nature, 332 00:20:38,759 --> 00:20:42,241 you either have an animal that's pushed too far because of man's 333 00:20:42,371 --> 00:20:51,206 abuse, or you have animals that are 334 00:20:51,380 --> 00:20:53,948 lashing out due to environmental changes, 335 00:20:54,122 --> 00:20:56,994 like Day of the Animals. 336 00:20:57,125 --> 00:21:01,347 That movie is literally about the ozone layer being depleted. 337 00:21:01,521 --> 00:21:03,566 The ozone layer is of profound importance 338 00:21:03,740 --> 00:21:05,916 because it protects us from the harmful effects 339 00:21:06,090 --> 00:21:07,744 of the sun's radiation. 340 00:21:07,788 --> 00:21:09,355 RYAN TUREK: And the animals lose their minds. 341 00:21:14,925 --> 00:21:16,579 You have pretty much every kind 342 00:21:16,753 --> 00:21:19,060 of animal imaginable that's local to that area 343 00:21:19,234 --> 00:21:20,496 going after the characters. 344 00:21:20,670 --> 00:21:22,585 It's like they all got together, and it's like, OK, 345 00:21:22,716 --> 00:21:24,848 the wildcats are going after these guys, 346 00:21:24,979 --> 00:21:28,765 and the eagles and hawks will take this girl out, and so on. 347 00:21:28,896 --> 00:21:31,072 One thing for sure, a lot of well-fed 348 00:21:31,115 --> 00:21:34,162 animals running around. 349 00:21:34,336 --> 00:21:36,730 Girdler gets these great shots that-- 350 00:21:36,904 --> 00:21:40,299 pre-CG compositing is really amazing. 351 00:21:40,473 --> 00:21:42,649 He does a great job of doing these shots where they'll just 352 00:21:42,823 --> 00:21:46,783 have a bear walk by in the background and an eagle land 353 00:21:46,957 --> 00:21:48,829 all in the same shot. 354 00:21:48,916 --> 00:21:51,832 And just imagining what they were doing behind the scenes, 355 00:21:51,962 --> 00:21:54,965 I think now, that you wouldn't think twice because you're just 356 00:21:55,052 --> 00:21:56,793 like, none of those animals were in the same frame 357 00:21:56,924 --> 00:21:57,316 at the same time. 358 00:22:02,364 --> 00:22:05,236 Oh god, no! 359 00:22:05,367 --> 00:22:06,890 No! 360 00:22:07,021 --> 00:22:09,632 In the story, they just keep getting attacked by animals, 361 00:22:09,806 --> 00:22:11,330 and as happens with any of these movies, 362 00:22:11,460 --> 00:22:14,681 they start to turn on each other. 363 00:22:14,724 --> 00:22:19,425 You lily-livered punk, I'm running this camping trip! 364 00:22:19,468 --> 00:22:20,774 That one is also memorable because it 365 00:22:20,948 --> 00:22:25,213 features Leslie Nielsen who, at the time, was a dramatic actor. 366 00:22:25,256 --> 00:22:26,867 This was three years before Airplane. 367 00:22:27,041 --> 00:22:28,825 But it's one of the great comedic performances 368 00:22:28,869 --> 00:22:30,044 of his career. 369 00:22:30,218 --> 00:22:31,785 Shut up, you little cockroach, or I'll 370 00:22:31,872 --> 00:22:34,222 shove you off the cliff! 371 00:22:34,265 --> 00:22:36,616 He plays this alpha male-type who, 372 00:22:36,746 --> 00:22:39,619 when things start going crazy, starts going a little 373 00:22:39,793 --> 00:22:41,925 nuts himself and starts leching after 374 00:22:42,099 --> 00:22:43,231 this young girl in the group. 375 00:22:43,318 --> 00:22:44,798 He has this memorable line where he says-- 376 00:22:44,885 --> 00:22:47,366 I take what I want, and I give you what I want to give you. 377 00:22:47,540 --> 00:22:50,804 And right now, I want that. 378 00:22:50,891 --> 00:22:53,546 And then, he eventually, in the middle of the night, 379 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,243 in a raging thunderstorm, strips off his shirt 380 00:22:55,417 --> 00:22:56,244 and wrestles a bear. 381 00:23:05,253 --> 00:23:06,950 And it's one of the great camp moments 382 00:23:07,124 --> 00:23:08,038 in horror cinema of the '70s. 383 00:23:16,351 --> 00:23:19,398 RYAN TUREK: There's one that I would love to mention, 384 00:23:19,441 --> 00:23:22,270 and it's tricky, talking about some 385 00:23:22,444 --> 00:23:26,361 of these Italian animal attack movies, 386 00:23:26,492 --> 00:23:29,233 because there was suspected animal abuse 387 00:23:29,364 --> 00:23:31,758 or just mishandling of animals. 388 00:23:31,932 --> 00:23:34,325 Yeah, that's the way. 389 00:23:34,369 --> 00:23:36,719 RYAN TUREK: But there is this film called Wild Beasts 390 00:23:36,806 --> 00:23:44,205 from the '80s that is basically what happens if PCP gets 391 00:23:44,335 --> 00:23:46,773 into the water supply of a bunch of zoo animals 392 00:23:46,816 --> 00:23:49,950 and they go crazy. 393 00:23:50,124 --> 00:23:53,257 [screaming] 394 00:23:59,525 --> 00:24:00,047 WOMAN: Tommy! 395 00:24:06,357 --> 00:24:08,011 RYAN TUREK: There was one scene I remember, 396 00:24:08,185 --> 00:24:10,623 it was like a big cat, and it was chasing this cab 397 00:24:10,666 --> 00:24:11,928 through the streets of Italy. 398 00:24:12,102 --> 00:24:15,715 And I just like, what is going on? 399 00:24:15,889 --> 00:24:17,978 It's so beautifully shot, the way 400 00:24:18,152 --> 00:24:22,809 this animal is chasing this convertible down the street. 401 00:24:22,939 --> 00:24:25,246 And the music, and the way it all comes together, 402 00:24:25,420 --> 00:24:28,336 and where all the planets came into alignment to make what 403 00:24:28,379 --> 00:24:30,469 is a perfect cinematic chase scene. 404 00:24:35,952 --> 00:24:40,304 It's definitely the greatest "animal chasing after a car" 405 00:24:40,348 --> 00:24:41,958 chase scene in cinema history. 406 00:24:42,132 --> 00:24:43,046 Hey, look at that. 407 00:24:43,220 --> 00:24:43,917 She's not crazy. 408 00:24:44,004 --> 00:24:44,918 She's being chased by a cheetah. 409 00:25:07,375 --> 00:25:08,811 Don't shoot him! 410 00:25:08,985 --> 00:25:10,160 [whimpering] 411 00:25:26,829 --> 00:25:27,787 Cujo, what's the matter? 412 00:25:27,917 --> 00:25:29,528 Cujo! 413 00:25:29,615 --> 00:25:30,354 Cujo! 414 00:25:34,184 --> 00:25:44,238 It seems like cats are the worst horror pets, 415 00:25:45,021 --> 00:25:50,418 but that's only because of our prejudice towards cats 416 00:25:50,505 --> 00:25:51,767 and our favoritism towards dogs. 417 00:25:55,641 --> 00:25:57,556 Dogs are wonderful in horror movies 418 00:25:57,686 --> 00:25:59,688 because they'll often be helpful. 419 00:25:59,819 --> 00:26:02,038 But what about Cujo? 420 00:26:02,169 --> 00:26:03,910 That's a bad dog. 421 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:04,780 He's a very bad dog. 422 00:26:11,308 --> 00:26:12,483 There is nothing wrong with Cujo. 423 00:26:12,614 --> 00:26:14,311 Cujo was a good boy. 424 00:26:14,442 --> 00:26:17,358 He just got pushed into a cave chasing a rabbit, 425 00:26:17,488 --> 00:26:18,228 and he got bit by a bat. 426 00:26:22,755 --> 00:26:24,017 He was never bad. 427 00:26:24,104 --> 00:26:27,150 He was just a victim of this circumstance. 428 00:26:32,678 --> 00:26:37,160 And that movie is heartbreaking to watch, as well. 429 00:26:37,291 --> 00:26:39,032 Killer dog movies, I think, they're 430 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,383 always unnerving because they're supposed to be our friends, 431 00:26:42,426 --> 00:26:47,475 and people love getting big dogs because they're so cuddly. 432 00:26:47,518 --> 00:26:49,346 But every now and then, you got to think, 433 00:26:49,477 --> 00:26:54,830 could I take my own dog in a fight if it came to it? 434 00:26:54,874 --> 00:26:56,179 And I think if you own a Saint Bernard, 435 00:26:56,266 --> 00:26:57,703 the answer is always no. 436 00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:11,368 The reason that Cujo is so intense, 437 00:27:11,542 --> 00:27:14,894 somewhat unusually for an animal attack film, 438 00:27:15,024 --> 00:27:16,286 is that it's so claustrophobic. 439 00:27:19,463 --> 00:27:22,858 Dee Wallace and her son are trapped 440 00:27:22,989 --> 00:27:27,341 in this car on a sweltering day, and there's nowhere to go. 441 00:27:27,471 --> 00:27:30,692 And Cujo is just so scary, and drooling, 442 00:27:30,823 --> 00:27:37,438 and vicious, and relentless, you really 443 00:27:37,525 --> 00:27:40,223 feel the dog's merciless rage. 444 00:27:40,354 --> 00:27:42,443 And that, combined with how trapped they are in the car, 445 00:27:42,530 --> 00:27:44,097 is-- it's very hard to watch. 446 00:27:46,969 --> 00:27:47,448 I want to go home. 447 00:27:47,491 --> 00:27:48,362 It's not a monster. 448 00:27:48,536 --> 00:27:49,624 It's just a doggy. 449 00:27:49,755 --> 00:27:51,931 The thing about Cujo is that it 450 00:27:52,061 --> 00:27:56,500 has this towering performance by Dee Wallace in it, 451 00:27:56,544 --> 00:28:00,548 where she explores about a thousand shades of grief, 452 00:28:00,591 --> 00:28:02,463 and pain, and resilience. 453 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,816 Please, God, get me out of here. 454 00:28:07,860 --> 00:28:11,472 The fact that it was never recognized with any award 455 00:28:11,515 --> 00:28:14,040 nominations or serious critical notice 456 00:28:14,170 --> 00:28:18,131 is a reminder that horror films can't get no respect. 457 00:28:22,178 --> 00:28:26,008 A similar performance in a straight drama, I would think, 458 00:28:26,139 --> 00:28:28,968 would have instantly put her into the conversation 459 00:28:29,011 --> 00:28:30,621 for Best Actress for that year. 460 00:28:30,752 --> 00:28:33,015 Well, come on, then! 461 00:28:33,189 --> 00:28:36,627 If Cujo has lasted, it's because of that Dee 462 00:28:36,758 --> 00:28:37,846 Wallace performance. 463 00:28:47,377 --> 00:28:50,424 Supper's ready. 464 00:28:50,467 --> 00:28:51,077 Come and get it. 465 00:28:55,864 --> 00:28:59,302 DANA GOULD: I love Arachnophobia. 466 00:28:59,433 --> 00:29:01,348 It's really scary-- 467 00:29:01,391 --> 00:29:02,218 Rock and roll. 468 00:29:02,349 --> 00:29:04,525 DANA GOULD: --and really funny. 469 00:29:04,655 --> 00:29:06,701 It's bad luck to kill a spider in a new house. 470 00:29:06,832 --> 00:29:07,963 Just made that up, didn't you, dear? 471 00:29:08,050 --> 00:29:08,964 Those 472 00:29:09,051 --> 00:29:11,184 Are not easy to do in tandem. 473 00:29:11,271 --> 00:29:14,448 There are four or five ways to do it right 474 00:29:14,578 --> 00:29:16,406 and 400 or 500 ways to do it wrong. 475 00:29:20,062 --> 00:29:23,457 Arachnophobia takes place in Spielbergia, you know, 476 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:25,589 where Poltergeist took place and where ET took place. 477 00:29:25,764 --> 00:29:27,243 Come on, we live in the country now. 478 00:29:27,461 --> 00:29:31,770 It's time to work through this irrational, paralyzing terror. 479 00:29:31,813 --> 00:29:33,467 It's not irrational. 480 00:29:33,597 --> 00:29:37,558 But the people behave in a way that's 481 00:29:37,688 --> 00:29:41,692 normal as opposed to in a stylized acceptance of a horror 482 00:29:41,823 --> 00:29:42,345 movie. 483 00:29:46,219 --> 00:29:47,655 And that's why it's funny. 484 00:29:47,829 --> 00:29:49,657 Chris, I'm scared to death. 485 00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:52,138 Yeah, we all are, but our brains 486 00:29:52,268 --> 00:29:55,706 secrete a neurotransmitter that enables us to deal with them. 487 00:29:55,837 --> 00:29:59,014 I don't think I have that particular neurotransmitter. 488 00:29:59,188 --> 00:30:02,583 It is a classic product from the years when the Steven 489 00:30:02,757 --> 00:30:08,894 Spielberg machine could produce fun, funny, scary family 490 00:30:09,068 --> 00:30:11,592 entertainment that included a spider crawling 491 00:30:11,722 --> 00:30:12,462 out of a corpse's nose. 492 00:30:18,207 --> 00:30:21,123 I took my sister and my cousin to see Arachnophobia, 493 00:30:21,254 --> 00:30:22,821 and they were very little. 494 00:30:22,908 --> 00:30:24,605 And I drove, and what a mistake. 495 00:30:31,307 --> 00:30:32,961 We could not even get back on the highway. 496 00:30:33,092 --> 00:30:34,833 They were freaking out like there 497 00:30:34,963 --> 00:30:36,704 were spiders and eight-legged crawlies coming 498 00:30:36,791 --> 00:30:37,836 from every corner, screaming. 499 00:30:42,928 --> 00:30:44,407 I'm like, you're going to make me crash the car. 500 00:30:52,851 --> 00:30:54,330 In the last decade, there has been 501 00:30:54,548 --> 00:30:58,857 some really interesting writing about why we love horror films. 502 00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:00,815 One of the reasons we are drawn to them 503 00:31:00,946 --> 00:31:04,384 is because they give us an evolutionary advantage. 504 00:31:04,514 --> 00:31:08,997 We are able to experience stressful, frightening 505 00:31:09,128 --> 00:31:12,827 situations in the safe playground of our imagination. 506 00:31:12,958 --> 00:31:16,962 We can explore terrifying scenarios without actually 507 00:31:17,136 --> 00:31:19,312 having to live through them because we can 508 00:31:19,399 --> 00:31:23,446 live through them in a story. 509 00:31:23,490 --> 00:31:27,537 There are some primal, ancient dangers to your life 510 00:31:27,668 --> 00:31:29,017 and to mine-- 511 00:31:29,148 --> 00:31:32,020 snakes, sharks, spiders. 512 00:31:35,328 --> 00:31:39,158 So Arachnophobia plays to those fears 513 00:31:39,288 --> 00:31:41,595 that are deeply ingrained. 514 00:31:41,769 --> 00:31:43,118 And when you ask yourself, why would 515 00:31:43,292 --> 00:31:46,165 we want to face that fear? 516 00:31:46,295 --> 00:31:51,213 We face it so if we ever were confronted 517 00:31:51,344 --> 00:31:54,260 with a big, hairy, poisonous spider in real life, 518 00:31:54,390 --> 00:31:55,565 we would know how to act. 519 00:32:00,266 --> 00:32:02,442 We wouldn't just be paralyzed with terror, because we've 520 00:32:02,616 --> 00:32:05,053 already faced that spider a few times already 521 00:32:05,184 --> 00:32:06,054 in films and in stories. 522 00:32:12,321 --> 00:32:14,149 Nature run amok movies can go through cycles. 523 00:32:19,285 --> 00:32:22,941 The '70s, obviously, very serious-minded. 524 00:32:22,984 --> 00:32:24,029 What in hell are you? 525 00:32:28,207 --> 00:32:29,773 RYAN TUREK: And the '80s, went a little more crazier. 526 00:32:34,604 --> 00:32:37,607 Keep moving up through the '90s, you've got Lake Placid. 527 00:32:55,843 --> 00:32:59,673 That was a little bit more zany, because at that point, when 528 00:32:59,803 --> 00:33:02,328 you're dealing with nature run amok movies, 529 00:33:02,458 --> 00:33:05,548 the audience is just straight up expecting some sort of tongue 530 00:33:05,679 --> 00:33:07,115 to be planted firmly in cheek. 531 00:33:07,289 --> 00:33:09,683 Come and get it. 532 00:33:09,813 --> 00:33:12,120 Ugh. 533 00:33:12,294 --> 00:33:13,426 [mooing] 534 00:33:16,429 --> 00:33:16,995 I like the writing. 535 00:33:17,169 --> 00:33:18,866 I like the relationships. 536 00:33:18,953 --> 00:33:20,737 Well, your husband, Bernie, you didn't by any chance 537 00:33:20,911 --> 00:33:23,262 lead him to the lake blindfolded? 538 00:33:23,392 --> 00:33:25,786 If I had a dick, this is where I'd tell you to suck it. 539 00:33:25,916 --> 00:33:28,528 Felt like the kind of whip smart humor-- 540 00:33:28,702 --> 00:33:30,791 Crocodiles can't swim in saltwater. 541 00:33:30,921 --> 00:33:33,881 Yeah, well, that'll be your little secret. 542 00:33:34,055 --> 00:33:38,364 You got Brendan Gleason playing this snarky sheriff. 543 00:33:38,494 --> 00:33:40,235 Oh, god! 544 00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:41,628 Oh! Are there two? 545 00:33:41,671 --> 00:33:42,585 I think there's two. 546 00:33:42,716 --> 00:33:43,804 There's two. - I can see that. 547 00:33:43,847 --> 00:33:44,718 - You all right? - He bit me! 548 00:33:44,761 --> 00:33:46,154 - You OK? - He bit me. 549 00:33:46,285 --> 00:33:47,416 There's two. There's two. 550 00:33:47,460 --> 00:33:48,113 I can count. 551 00:33:54,641 --> 00:33:55,816 Back to one. 552 00:33:55,946 --> 00:33:59,950 And so by the time you get to Cocaine Bear 553 00:34:00,081 --> 00:34:01,691 and Elizabeth Banks directing, that pairing-- 554 00:34:01,822 --> 00:34:04,781 you can't be serious. 555 00:34:04,825 --> 00:34:07,349 I am a city person. 556 00:34:07,393 --> 00:34:08,958 When I go in the woods, when I go hiking, 557 00:34:09,090 --> 00:34:11,136 one of my biggest fears is bears. 558 00:34:14,443 --> 00:34:18,926 So Cocaine Bear, it's a bear and her cubs, 559 00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:22,625 but the bear is on cocaine, which makes it way more 560 00:34:22,755 --> 00:34:25,889 scary than just a typical bear. 561 00:34:26,020 --> 00:34:26,934 [screaming] 562 00:34:26,976 --> 00:34:29,545 A bear did cocaine, dad. 563 00:34:29,676 --> 00:34:30,981 Fuck this! 564 00:34:31,112 --> 00:34:33,418 And I did not know until I watched this movie 565 00:34:33,549 --> 00:34:35,290 that bears can climb trees. 566 00:34:35,333 --> 00:34:36,639 Bears can't climb trees. 567 00:34:36,683 --> 00:34:38,859 Of course, they can! 568 00:34:38,902 --> 00:34:40,513 Then why are you up here? 569 00:34:40,643 --> 00:34:42,167 Is that even real? 570 00:34:42,341 --> 00:34:45,170 I don't know, but a bear on cocaine 571 00:34:45,213 --> 00:34:47,737 seems like it'd be able to climb a tree. 572 00:34:47,911 --> 00:34:49,739 Oh, no, no, no, oh, no! 573 00:34:49,913 --> 00:34:50,565 No! 574 00:34:50,697 --> 00:34:52,612 No! 575 00:34:52,699 --> 00:34:54,744 I didn't know that it was going to be as gory as it was. 576 00:34:58,835 --> 00:35:00,446 It's like, I knew it was going to be 577 00:35:00,620 --> 00:35:03,013 about a bear that takes cocaine, and then the bear 578 00:35:03,144 --> 00:35:04,667 goes crazy and chases people. 579 00:35:04,798 --> 00:35:06,365 I figured some people will die. 580 00:35:06,408 --> 00:35:09,281 But I didn't realize that the deaths 581 00:35:09,411 --> 00:35:12,806 were going to be so funny, and good, and over the top. 582 00:35:12,936 --> 00:35:14,895 They do not hold back at all with the deaths. 583 00:35:20,509 --> 00:35:22,859 I think we went in like, OK, let's go see this, 584 00:35:22,990 --> 00:35:23,686 because we see everything. 585 00:35:23,860 --> 00:35:27,081 And wow, what a surprise. 586 00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:28,430 Did it use cocaine? 587 00:35:28,604 --> 00:35:31,129 It was so wacky and really fun. 588 00:35:34,523 --> 00:35:36,743 I think the campiness of the bear really added 589 00:35:36,917 --> 00:35:39,224 to the effect of the film. 590 00:35:39,311 --> 00:35:40,486 If it was too realistic, it probably 591 00:35:40,616 --> 00:35:43,793 wouldn't have been as funny. 592 00:35:43,967 --> 00:35:47,101 It might not be the best animal attacks film ever made, 593 00:35:47,275 --> 00:35:49,016 but it certainly is the best movie ever 594 00:35:49,059 --> 00:35:49,799 made about a bear on cocaine. 595 00:35:52,628 --> 00:35:53,542 That's a fucking bear. 596 00:35:58,373 --> 00:36:01,550 One problem, I guess, morally, you could say, 597 00:36:01,594 --> 00:36:04,031 with animal attack movies is I know a lot of people 598 00:36:04,162 --> 00:36:07,208 are sensitive about the mistreatment 599 00:36:07,252 --> 00:36:13,606 of animals on screen, even with our best intentions. 600 00:36:13,780 --> 00:36:15,956 And so it is nice that special effects have gotten 601 00:36:16,086 --> 00:36:17,871 to the point where they maybe didn't need 602 00:36:18,001 --> 00:36:20,395 a real bear in Cocaine Bear. 603 00:36:20,439 --> 00:36:24,399 But I'd be lying if I said that I don't miss seeing a really 604 00:36:24,573 --> 00:36:28,273 good animal performance, because when it's really good, 605 00:36:28,316 --> 00:36:32,233 it's so much scarier and more impressive, 606 00:36:32,277 --> 00:36:33,974 because you're just like, how did they 607 00:36:34,104 --> 00:36:38,413 get this animal to do that? 608 00:36:38,544 --> 00:36:40,198 And a perfect example to me is the movie, 609 00:36:40,372 --> 00:36:43,244 the Edge, starring Anthony Hopkins and Alec Baldwin. 610 00:36:43,288 --> 00:36:45,333 The whole middle section of that movie 611 00:36:45,377 --> 00:36:48,771 is just them being stalked by and eventually 612 00:36:48,815 --> 00:36:58,564 realizing they need to kill this bear, played 613 00:37:00,653 --> 00:37:03,482 by one of the great animal actors of all time, 614 00:37:03,612 --> 00:37:04,439 Bart the Bear-- 615 00:37:04,483 --> 00:37:05,440 The bear is going to chase me. 616 00:37:09,575 --> 00:37:10,967 JOSH MILLER: --who I grew up with knowing 617 00:37:11,141 --> 00:37:13,361 as the Bald-Headed Bear from John 618 00:37:13,492 --> 00:37:15,798 Hughes's the Great Outdoors. 619 00:37:15,842 --> 00:37:18,758 He's the bear that they get to bounce up and down 620 00:37:18,888 --> 00:37:22,805 on supposedly John Candy, but it was his trainer, who also plays 621 00:37:22,979 --> 00:37:26,287 Alec Baldwin and Anthony Hopkins in the Edge anytime 622 00:37:26,461 --> 00:37:27,462 he has to fight with Bart. 623 00:37:33,033 --> 00:37:34,556 He does real acting. 624 00:37:34,687 --> 00:37:38,125 If you watch the movie, the first time Anthony Hopkins 625 00:37:38,168 --> 00:37:41,259 and the bear see each other, they just get this shot of Bart 626 00:37:41,302 --> 00:37:44,610 where he makes the most menacing, angry face. 627 00:37:44,740 --> 00:37:46,786 And I'm sure in real life, his trainer just 628 00:37:46,916 --> 00:37:49,354 said something to him, and put his ears down, and then 629 00:37:49,484 --> 00:37:51,181 gave him an apple after. 630 00:37:51,312 --> 00:37:53,923 CHARLES: Come on, son of a-- 631 00:37:54,097 --> 00:37:56,056 JOE BEGOS: That has, I think, the best man-versus-bear fight 632 00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:58,798 ever put to film. 633 00:37:58,972 --> 00:38:00,321 It is very smartly done, and it's 634 00:38:00,365 --> 00:38:02,976 big, wide, anamorphic lenses, huge, huge budget. 635 00:38:03,106 --> 00:38:06,371 And yeah, there's a bear fight in it where it's 95% real bear. 636 00:38:06,458 --> 00:38:07,981 I don't think there's any CG in it 637 00:38:08,024 --> 00:38:10,113 and stuff that isn't real bears, close-ups of animatronics, 638 00:38:10,157 --> 00:38:13,378 but it looks phenomenal. 639 00:38:13,508 --> 00:38:15,031 Bart the Bear just looks so giant, 640 00:38:15,118 --> 00:38:17,164 and he's getting up on his hind legs and hitting the book, 641 00:38:17,251 --> 00:38:18,905 and it's awesome. 642 00:38:22,387 --> 00:38:25,520 If you compare that with any CG bear, 643 00:38:25,651 --> 00:38:28,001 I don't know how you couldn't agree that Bart 644 00:38:28,131 --> 00:38:29,655 has that something special. 645 00:38:29,698 --> 00:38:30,960 Same reason you don't want to replace 646 00:38:31,091 --> 00:38:33,049 humans with too much CG. 647 00:38:33,180 --> 00:38:34,573 There's a natural quality in there. 648 00:38:34,703 --> 00:38:35,965 Come on! 649 00:38:36,052 --> 00:38:36,531 CHARLES: Come on! 650 00:39:13,002 --> 00:39:14,569 Oh, god. 651 00:39:45,644 --> 00:39:47,994 I've had it with these motherfucking snakes 652 00:39:48,168 --> 00:39:49,561 on this motherfucking plane! 653 00:40:00,267 --> 00:40:01,964 So one of the rules of Maitua is 654 00:40:02,095 --> 00:40:03,836 that you have only one chance to complain 655 00:40:03,923 --> 00:40:06,491 about the heat and the flies. 656 00:40:06,578 --> 00:40:11,757 Rogue is the crazy crocodile movie by Greg McLean, who 657 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,411 is an Australian director, who I don't think 658 00:40:13,541 --> 00:40:15,325 gets enough credit for his contributions 659 00:40:15,456 --> 00:40:16,501 to the horror world. 660 00:40:16,631 --> 00:40:18,241 We're on Bush time now, so should have 661 00:40:18,416 --> 00:40:21,419 us back around 5:00 or 6:00. 662 00:40:21,549 --> 00:40:24,987 Radha Mitchell plays the really beautiful 663 00:40:25,118 --> 00:40:28,687 Australian Outback tour guide, because of course, 664 00:40:28,730 --> 00:40:31,080 she could have been a supermodel or an Australian tour guide. 665 00:40:31,124 --> 00:40:33,648 She chose Australian tour guide. 666 00:40:33,822 --> 00:40:35,737 KATE: Northern Territory is home to the biggest 667 00:40:35,868 --> 00:40:38,958 population of saltwater crocodiles in the world. 668 00:40:39,045 --> 00:40:40,742 DAVID DASTMALCHIAN: It's like Night of the Living Dead 669 00:40:40,873 --> 00:40:42,004 or Gilligan's Island, where you've just 670 00:40:42,178 --> 00:40:43,876 got all the different personalities crammed 671 00:40:43,963 --> 00:40:45,225 onto this little space together. 672 00:40:45,312 --> 00:40:47,227 Please don't film me. 673 00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:53,320 And mid-journey, they are suddenly slammed by this 674 00:40:53,407 --> 00:40:55,931 unseen force under the water. 675 00:40:56,062 --> 00:40:57,019 OK-- 676 00:40:57,063 --> 00:41:00,283 [screaming] 677 00:41:05,854 --> 00:41:10,119 And they are stranded on this little tiny inlet island. 678 00:41:10,163 --> 00:41:12,208 This, this is a bloody tidal river. 679 00:41:12,382 --> 00:41:13,558 WOMAN: What? What does that mean? 680 00:41:13,688 --> 00:41:15,734 Well, see that bunch of trees up there? 681 00:41:15,777 --> 00:41:17,823 Well, that's how high the tide will be when it comes in. 682 00:41:17,866 --> 00:41:20,434 Yeah, the whole bloody place will be underwater. 683 00:41:20,608 --> 00:41:22,610 The first couple of kills, you don't 684 00:41:22,741 --> 00:41:26,527 even see the way that the beast is interacting with its prey. 685 00:41:30,792 --> 00:41:33,403 Sometimes, all you see is bubbles of water. 686 00:41:33,447 --> 00:41:36,537 You turn around, and someone's gone. 687 00:41:36,668 --> 00:41:39,845 That, to me, is scary as all F. 688 00:41:39,888 --> 00:41:41,063 Oh, my god. 689 00:41:41,237 --> 00:41:44,545 There's something about watching a woman who 690 00:41:44,589 --> 00:41:49,071 looks to the water and realizes that her husband has just been 691 00:41:49,245 --> 00:41:54,076 swallowed up by a crocodile and losing her mind as the camera 692 00:41:54,163 --> 00:41:55,730 comes in on her face. 693 00:41:55,817 --> 00:41:57,123 Somebody do something! 694 00:41:57,166 --> 00:41:58,559 Everett! 695 00:41:58,603 --> 00:41:59,995 Everett! 696 00:42:00,126 --> 00:42:00,996 Everett! 697 00:42:01,170 --> 00:42:02,781 Everett! 698 00:42:02,911 --> 00:42:03,869 Everett! 699 00:42:03,912 --> 00:42:05,523 - Stand back. - No! 700 00:42:05,566 --> 00:42:07,394 All right, they'll back. Move away from the water. 701 00:42:07,437 --> 00:42:08,264 You get the fuck away from me! 702 00:42:08,438 --> 00:42:09,614 KATE: Come back, they'll come back! 703 00:42:09,657 --> 00:42:10,876 All of you, stay away from the water! 704 00:42:11,050 --> 00:42:12,878 DAVID DASTMALCHIAN: I believe the importance 705 00:42:13,008 --> 00:42:15,445 of reaction shots in animal attack movies, 706 00:42:15,620 --> 00:42:21,321 in chamber piece dramas, in any piece of cinema are everything. 707 00:42:21,364 --> 00:42:22,409 What's wrong with the boat? 708 00:42:29,198 --> 00:42:30,460 The humans are scared. 709 00:42:30,591 --> 00:42:31,331 They're frightened. 710 00:42:31,418 --> 00:42:32,637 They're anxious. 711 00:42:32,767 --> 00:42:34,377 They're letting their interpersonal histories 712 00:42:34,552 --> 00:42:36,641 get in the way of survival. 713 00:42:36,815 --> 00:42:38,773 I'm not going to let my daughter die. 714 00:42:38,860 --> 00:42:42,211 And the crocodile is patient. 715 00:42:42,298 --> 00:42:45,563 He's watching, he's waiting, and he knows he's going to get 716 00:42:45,606 --> 00:42:47,260 them, because they're fools. 717 00:42:47,390 --> 00:42:50,568 [screaming] 718 00:42:56,182 --> 00:42:59,794 It's utilizing an actual, real thing about crocodiles 719 00:42:59,838 --> 00:43:02,884 and alligators, which is, whereas most animals just 720 00:43:02,971 --> 00:43:05,931 eat when they're hungry, crocodiles and alligators will 721 00:43:05,974 --> 00:43:07,933 attack something whenever they get the option, 722 00:43:07,976 --> 00:43:10,500 and they'll store the food so they can eat it 723 00:43:10,631 --> 00:43:12,198 later next time they're hungry. 724 00:43:12,241 --> 00:43:13,155 They tag you as a food supply. 725 00:43:13,242 --> 00:43:14,156 They don't stop. 726 00:43:14,243 --> 00:43:16,855 It's like a vicious dog. 727 00:43:16,985 --> 00:43:18,639 Then, they take you back to the place 728 00:43:18,683 --> 00:43:20,467 where it stores its kills, and-- 729 00:43:20,554 --> 00:43:23,165 Which I think they're using as a bit of a loophole 730 00:43:23,296 --> 00:43:26,691 to explain why this crocodile, even after eating someone five 731 00:43:26,734 --> 00:43:28,431 minutes later, is coming back and just 732 00:43:28,475 --> 00:43:29,824 taking them out one by one. 733 00:43:35,482 --> 00:43:41,923 Every kill is so painful, and so sad, and so terrifying, 734 00:43:42,010 --> 00:43:46,841 until finally, our hero is deep in the bowels of this cave 735 00:43:46,972 --> 00:43:50,410 in Australia, and it's just the classic story of a hero 736 00:43:50,453 --> 00:43:52,630 having to face themself and face their fear, 737 00:43:52,673 --> 00:43:53,848 going into the heart of darkness. 738 00:43:57,591 --> 00:44:00,768 [muffled screaming] 739 00:44:05,381 --> 00:44:10,082 I like the Shallows because it's girl versus shark. 740 00:44:10,169 --> 00:44:15,304 And it stars Blake Lively, who is a really likable actress. 741 00:44:15,391 --> 00:44:17,567 Is this the one? 742 00:44:17,611 --> 00:44:18,786 Let's see. 743 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,094 She's a surfer, and she goes off by herself 744 00:44:22,137 --> 00:44:24,183 because she's very adventurous. 745 00:44:24,357 --> 00:44:25,663 She's in this area that's dangerous. 746 00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:27,447 She's all by herself. 747 00:44:27,490 --> 00:44:30,363 She does have a cell phone which she uses to communicate 748 00:44:30,493 --> 00:44:32,234 the premise to her family. 749 00:44:32,365 --> 00:44:34,019 Oh, my god, no way. 750 00:44:34,062 --> 00:44:35,150 Mom's beach, right? 751 00:44:35,194 --> 00:44:37,979 Just as beautiful as she said it was. 752 00:44:38,066 --> 00:44:39,894 HEIDI HONEYCUTT: And she goes to this isolated cove, 753 00:44:39,981 --> 00:44:41,548 and she gets trapped. 754 00:44:49,512 --> 00:44:51,776 So there's a shark, and then there's the shore, 755 00:44:51,906 --> 00:44:53,473 and then there's this island, and she doesn't 756 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,127 have her phone with her. 757 00:44:55,214 --> 00:44:58,870 She cannot get to the shore because there's a shark. 758 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,002 It's going to kill her if she gets in the water. 759 00:45:01,176 --> 00:45:04,484 And that seems like, well, where do you go from there? 760 00:45:04,658 --> 00:45:09,054 But they go all kinds of places from there. 761 00:45:09,184 --> 00:45:12,840 It's literally like one actor in the middle of an open plain, 762 00:45:13,014 --> 00:45:15,408 360 around her with a shark, and the shark CG. 763 00:45:15,451 --> 00:45:17,149 And they do it really smart in that movie 764 00:45:17,236 --> 00:45:19,281 where it's very much just little things that you see. 765 00:45:19,368 --> 00:45:20,587 You see fins. 766 00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:21,893 You see it knocking stuff over. 767 00:45:22,023 --> 00:45:24,112 So there's very few actual shark shots 768 00:45:24,156 --> 00:45:26,506 so that when they are there, they're fucking awesome, 769 00:45:26,636 --> 00:45:28,508 because they put all the resources into doing 770 00:45:28,595 --> 00:45:29,378 those specific shots. 771 00:45:33,774 --> 00:45:35,733 It all hinges on Blake Lively, and it all 772 00:45:35,907 --> 00:45:37,865 hinges on how good the shark's going to look, 773 00:45:37,996 --> 00:45:40,346 and it all hinges on how it's going to be shot and executed, 774 00:45:40,389 --> 00:45:42,696 because literally, the plot is as simple as a girl 775 00:45:42,827 --> 00:45:44,263 sitting on a rock by herself for 90 776 00:45:44,437 --> 00:45:45,743 minutes with a shark circling around, 777 00:45:45,786 --> 00:45:48,615 and it's fucking tense as hell. 778 00:45:48,789 --> 00:45:50,399 There are two ways to tell a story. 779 00:45:50,443 --> 00:45:51,531 A woman is trapped on a rock. 780 00:45:51,574 --> 00:45:51,923 There is a shark. 781 00:45:55,796 --> 00:45:58,494 But the other way to tell that story 782 00:45:58,668 --> 00:46:01,454 is the Shallows, and that's the art. 783 00:46:01,497 --> 00:46:03,021 That's the art of filmmaking, and that's 784 00:46:03,064 --> 00:46:04,413 the art of storytelling, is that you 785 00:46:04,587 --> 00:46:08,678 take a beautiful, clean concept, and then from that soil, 786 00:46:08,722 --> 00:46:13,814 you grow something, and you have to follow it. 787 00:46:13,858 --> 00:46:16,295 And that's why it can be successful or unsuccessful, 788 00:46:16,382 --> 00:46:18,645 or someone likes it or somebody doesn't, because art 789 00:46:18,688 --> 00:46:20,647 isn't about just point, to point, 790 00:46:20,734 --> 00:46:22,388 to point, to point, to point. 791 00:46:22,431 --> 00:46:23,389 That would be narrative. 792 00:46:27,045 --> 00:46:28,786 I think it's unfair to any shark movie. 793 00:46:28,873 --> 00:46:31,571 It's after Jaws. 794 00:46:31,701 --> 00:46:35,227 But the Shallows, I think it's a great shark movie. 795 00:46:35,357 --> 00:46:38,534 It's just that the bar is so high that, even when 796 00:46:38,665 --> 00:46:40,493 you have a good one, the bar is so high 797 00:46:40,667 --> 00:46:41,581 that you can't even see it. 798 00:46:41,668 --> 00:46:42,277 But it's great. 799 00:46:42,321 --> 00:46:43,148 It's great. 800 00:46:43,191 --> 00:46:44,236 I'm not complaining. 801 00:46:44,323 --> 00:46:45,150 The Shallows is great. 802 00:46:45,193 --> 00:46:45,846 Fuck you. 803 00:46:56,465 --> 00:46:58,990 I love movies when there's already something really 804 00:46:59,164 --> 00:47:01,644 intense going on, and then there's some kind 805 00:47:01,775 --> 00:47:02,863 of monster that shows up. 806 00:47:08,477 --> 00:47:11,263 In Crawl, there's already a really 807 00:47:11,437 --> 00:47:15,180 intense hurricane happening. 808 00:47:15,310 --> 00:47:15,833 [screaming] 809 00:47:18,879 --> 00:47:23,841 And then there's an alligator that shows up in the basement. 810 00:47:23,928 --> 00:47:24,667 Shit! 811 00:47:29,281 --> 00:47:32,501 And our main character has to navigate 812 00:47:32,675 --> 00:47:34,112 dealing with this alligator. 813 00:47:40,335 --> 00:47:45,079 Her dad is there, too, and they have to watch each other 814 00:47:45,253 --> 00:47:47,342 almost get eaten several times. 815 00:47:47,516 --> 00:47:49,214 You look good. 816 00:47:49,257 --> 00:47:50,084 You look like shit. 817 00:47:56,264 --> 00:47:58,179 JOE BEGOS: That one's more of a contained thriller 818 00:47:58,266 --> 00:48:01,661 because it's mostly in a house with very tight quarters 819 00:48:01,835 --> 00:48:03,315 and everything's closed off. 820 00:48:06,492 --> 00:48:07,885 I can't see what's going on. 821 00:48:07,972 --> 00:48:09,408 I can't see where things are. 822 00:48:09,538 --> 00:48:11,627 I can't see around me, and it's almost 823 00:48:11,801 --> 00:48:13,107 like an escape room of trying to get out 824 00:48:13,281 --> 00:48:14,892 of fucking giant crocodiles. 825 00:48:18,504 --> 00:48:20,027 Not only are they trapped in the space 826 00:48:20,158 --> 00:48:22,377 with the two alligators, but the water level 827 00:48:22,508 --> 00:48:23,509 is rising the entire time. 828 00:48:27,078 --> 00:48:28,775 And so there's this ticking clock of, 829 00:48:28,862 --> 00:48:30,472 are we going to be able to get out of here 830 00:48:30,516 --> 00:48:31,691 before we drown to death? 831 00:48:36,304 --> 00:48:38,176 This movie is relentless. 832 00:48:38,219 --> 00:48:45,444 It never stops, and it's perfect screenwriting. 833 00:48:45,574 --> 00:48:48,403 The level of danger just keeps ratcheting up higher and higher 834 00:48:48,447 --> 00:48:49,796 to the point to where you're like, how the fuck are 835 00:48:49,883 --> 00:48:50,797 they going to get out of this? 836 00:49:03,418 --> 00:49:05,029 The opening of Nope with that chimpanzee 837 00:49:05,203 --> 00:49:07,770 is one of the scariest first five minutes 838 00:49:07,814 --> 00:49:09,120 I've seen in a very long time. 839 00:49:19,478 --> 00:49:29,227 It's very disturbing and highly unsettling. 840 00:49:35,581 --> 00:49:37,800 And also, kudos to the editor when the chimpanzee looks up 841 00:49:37,931 --> 00:49:39,106 at the camera and then it cuts. 842 00:49:42,544 --> 00:49:47,332 It's both horrifying because you're questioning, 843 00:49:47,375 --> 00:49:48,463 what just happened? 844 00:49:48,507 --> 00:49:50,944 How bad is it? 845 00:49:51,118 --> 00:49:54,513 And then at the same time, in the back of my brain, 846 00:49:54,687 --> 00:49:56,123 at least, I was like, that's really sad. 847 00:50:00,606 --> 00:50:02,869 Especially when every once in a while, 848 00:50:03,043 --> 00:50:05,828 there will be a terrible animal attack. 849 00:50:06,003 --> 00:50:07,917 And you read about it in the news, 850 00:50:08,048 --> 00:50:10,703 whether it's a poor woman who had her face bitten off 851 00:50:10,833 --> 00:50:14,228 by a chimpanzee or some other unfortunate incident, 852 00:50:14,359 --> 00:50:16,361 and he basically showed us the aftermath of that. 853 00:50:16,491 --> 00:50:20,104 And it's horrifying. 854 00:50:20,278 --> 00:50:22,062 They had a suit performer who worked 855 00:50:22,236 --> 00:50:24,586 on planet of the Apes playing Gordy, 856 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,110 which I think is really cool. 857 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,811 I almost like when you can tell an animal in a movie 858 00:50:31,854 --> 00:50:34,988 is fake, because then, I don't have to think about how 859 00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:36,990 they got an animal to do certain things 860 00:50:37,034 --> 00:50:39,862 while I'm watching a movie. 861 00:50:40,037 --> 00:50:43,344 Nope is about trying to play God. 862 00:50:43,388 --> 00:50:46,478 In this case, it's filmmakers and artists 863 00:50:46,652 --> 00:50:50,395 trying to manipulate animals for their own benefit for screen. 864 00:50:55,095 --> 00:50:59,491 The use of animals in movies and TV, 865 00:50:59,534 --> 00:51:02,146 ever since the medium was created, 866 00:51:02,233 --> 00:51:04,104 you read so many horror stories about the treatment 867 00:51:04,235 --> 00:51:07,368 of the animals. 868 00:51:07,455 --> 00:51:11,068 And beyond that, the way that the exploitation of animals 869 00:51:11,242 --> 00:51:16,029 and the exploitation of maybe people who can't stand up 870 00:51:16,203 --> 00:51:23,167 for themselves behind the scenes, like children in films, 871 00:51:23,254 --> 00:51:27,649 it's a really seedy side to the art form that we all love. 872 00:51:46,929 --> 00:51:47,930 [screeching] 873 00:52:05,209 --> 00:52:08,255 HOST: Lost River Lake, pure horror fibs. 874 00:52:08,386 --> 00:52:10,997 Film in 11. 875 00:52:11,171 --> 00:52:14,218 MAN 1: We are going to beat these pea-brained lizard shits. 876 00:52:24,271 --> 00:52:25,707 MAN 2: Just what the world needs, more bugs. 877 00:52:34,542 --> 00:52:35,543 CHILD: I want to go home. 878 00:52:35,587 --> 00:52:36,501 WOMAN: It's not a monster. 879 00:52:36,675 --> 00:52:37,719 It's just a doggy. 880 00:52:37,893 --> 00:52:38,372 Shark! Shark! 881 00:52:42,507 --> 00:52:43,769 Here's to swimming with bow-legged women. 882 00:52:49,905 --> 00:52:51,907 Horror and romance 883 00:52:52,081 --> 00:52:54,214 have a long-standing relationship with one another. 884 00:52:54,388 --> 00:52:55,520 It's been there since the beginning... 885 00:52:55,607 --> 00:52:57,086 [Screams] 886 00:52:57,217 --> 00:52:59,306 ...the intersection of horror, 887 00:52:59,437 --> 00:53:03,658 sex, sexuality, romance. 888 00:53:03,789 --> 00:53:05,660 Going on a date 889 00:53:05,791 --> 00:53:09,969 is one of the most vulnerable things you can do. 890 00:53:10,143 --> 00:53:12,319 You'll remember tonight forever. 891 00:53:12,537 --> 00:53:16,541 โ™ช 892 00:53:19,283 --> 00:53:28,814 [Haunting music] 893 00:53:49,356 --> 00:53:51,358 Did we finally beat them, or is 894 00:53:51,489 --> 00:53:53,621 this just a temporary victory? 69050

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