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What number am I thinking of?
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It doesn't work like that.
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Seven. It's always seven.
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It's time.
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I'm so sorry. I really tried.
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Well, three different spot
treatments didn't work.
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I wanted to get your okay.
Before trying hydrogen peroxide.
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Red wine is an acid, and silks hate acid.
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Red wine? No, it's a, it's a ketchup stain.
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- No, ketchup's redder.
- When it's purple, it's wine.
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No, no, no. My husband
was at a cardinals game
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and someone walked
into him holding a hot dog.
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You know what? You're so right.
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It's ketchup. I will let you know.
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- Thank you.
- Okay, bye.
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We're closed!
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Special delivery.
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Hey, Lorraine.
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Now ray, you're not here
to get your tux cleaned.
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- I saw your car outside.
- I'm still getting your mail.
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Thanks.
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You figure if you wait long enough,
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they'll stop asking for their money?
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I'm working late, aren't
I? You stopped drinking.
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How in the world can you know that?
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Have you been going through my trash?
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Your pants are too loose.
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You're down to the last loop on your belt.
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Going on four months now.
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Two meetings a week.
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I dunno, maybe this time I'll stick.
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That's great. Good for you, ray.
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How's things around here?
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Well, I just got yelled at by jeanie Franco,
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whose husband's having an
affair with a clumsy red wine drinker.
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Tell me you did not put
yourself in the middle of that.
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I didn't say a word. You'd
have been proud of me.
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Hey, can I at least pay your cable bill?
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I'm the reason you signed
up for it in the first place,
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and I'm saving a fortune on my bar tab.
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You're not paying my damn bills.
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I could pay off all of 'em
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and we still wouldn't be even, Lorraine.
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Take off your pants.
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- What?
- I'll take 'em in.
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You want me to walk out
of here in my underpants?
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I got something in your size.
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He's not gonna come in looking for it?
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If he hasn't needed a set
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of work clothes in a month, he got fired.
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In Charlotte north
Carolina this morning...
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- All right.
- Melissa and frank conley
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made an impassioned plea to the public
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for the safe return of
their son Rory conley.
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Rory is six. He's tall for his age,
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with brown hair and gaps in his teeth.
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He was dressed as a fox.
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It's been a year since
their five-year-old son
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was abducted from
Charlotte comic expo.
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The good news is, I
can always look for work
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as a security guard.
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The family now offering a reward...
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- What?
- Of up to $50,000
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for information that could
lead to his safe return.
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Is it happening again?
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Why are you being so dramatic?
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You have the best view in the house.
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You'll be okay.
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Yeah.
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Are you frustrated with the police?
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Do you know if they're following leads?
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They say they're doing their best,
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and I guess we have to
believe them. Thank you.
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Thank you for being here.
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You have reached the
Charlotte mecklenburg
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police missing persons unit.
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Please leave your message
and phone number after the ton.
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Hello. My name is Lorraine ho well.
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I live in Branson, Missouri,
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and I am calling about Rory conley.
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I kept thinking the worst had passed.
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But new lows would sneak up on us.
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Each day that passed meant
it was that much less likely.
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The police said they'd call
when they knew something.
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But the phone never rang.
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And then it did.
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The detective on the case
said someone had come forward
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with information. It was unsubstantiated,
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borderline insane, but...
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When you're in pitch darkness,
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no light is too small.
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This will sound strange, but
I can see things sometimes.
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Images, strong, clear images,
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not hallucinations, they're real.
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I, I can see Rory.
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He's is alive.
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He... he's... There's an older woman
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with a southern accent talking to him.
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She's telling him to
eat Graham crackers,
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but he's not listening. He has a,
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he has a toy car in his hand,
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a little purple toy race car.
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He's driving it along a
seam in the sofa upholstery,
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making sounds like tires squealing.
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She was so sure. She told us
exactly what we needed to hear.
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He has crumbs on his shirt.
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He's, he's lost one of his bottom teeth.
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He is being cared for.
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Please don't give up.
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Who wouldn't want to
believe their missing son
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is still alive?
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Even if it was a lie?
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Hey. Hey.
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Hey.
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I got your pants.
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Thanks, Lorraine. Really.
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And you're throwing in a free fern?
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I'm going out of town. Do me a favor,
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look after it when I'm gone?
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I don't have the best
track record for keeping
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things alive. I can remember
one marriage in particular.
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You'll do fine. Indirect light,
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somewhere nice and humid.
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It'll drink as much as you give it.
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My kinda plant.
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So, how long am I
taking care of Mr. Fern?
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I don't know. Couple weeks, maybe.
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It's the kid, isn't it? The one on TV?
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Why, Lorraine?
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It's never worth it,
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putting yourself in the
middle of all that pain.
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You're always worse
off on the other side.
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I have to do this.
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No, you don't. Stay.
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Let me take you out to dinner. We
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I have to go. I have to go.
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Don't over-water it. You'll rot the roots.
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The purple toy car, that's what did it.
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He had it in his pocket the day that he...
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It's people like her who
claim to be psychics,
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they do research.
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Maybe she saw him
holding it in pictures.
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So given that skepticism,
why bring her to north Carolina?
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She said she needed
to be in Rory's room.
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Establish a connection.
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I wasn't sure. Frank was.
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And he knew the magic words.
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He said the same
thing I tell all my buyers
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when they're looking at a house:
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All the research in the world
doesn't compare to the feeling
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you get when it's right in front of you.
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You must be frank.
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Thank you for coming.
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- Outcomes to yourself.
- Sorry.
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Through the power of manifestation,
by focusing on positive thoughts
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my wife doesn't believe
in any of this stuff.
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She'd rather listen to
nails on a chalkboard.
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I guess even that beats the quiet.
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Unless, do you need quiet to...
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Get the energies in alignment, or...?
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If you'd rather, I can turn it off.
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No, it's fine. I'm a...
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Normal person, I promise.
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Okay.
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I'll go get Melissa. Melissa!
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Hi. Nice to meet you. I'm Melissa conley.
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Lorraine.
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I'm so sorry for what
you've been through.
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Thanks. Thanks for coming.
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You smell that? Cookies.
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She's been out of the
real estate game for a year,
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but she still pulls the open house trick.
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Don't fall for it, Lorraine.
Place is a dump.
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I'll bet Rory loved oatmeal raisin.
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I, I thought it might help. I don't know.
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- Yeah.
- Set the mood.
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Anyway. Shall we... Shall we begin?
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- It's this way.
- Okay.
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Please.
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Anything you need to get started,
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you just let us know.
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Or, if you'd rather, we
could go over what we know.
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We've got that folder from the police
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- around here somewhere...
- Frank. Remember...
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- What we talked about?
- Yeah. Right. Sorry.
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My husband's a talker,
but maybe there are things
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you could tell us instead?
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You don't have to tell me anything. I just.
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I get a feeling.
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But only sometimes.
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Yeah.
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It comes or it doesn't.
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May I?
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Yeah.
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Was Rory allergic to peanuts?
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No. He didn't have any allergies.
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Then why did he sort
his Halloween candy
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one pile with peanuts, and one without?
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- I'm allergic.
- Frank...
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I, I, I told Rory not to bring
peanuts into the house
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or he couldn't kiss me goodnight.
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And so he would trade
the ones with peanuts
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for sour gummy worms.
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But that doesn't mean that he's alive.
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- Or that we're gonna find him.
- Yeah. But, yeah, but
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no, no, no. You're right,
you're right. This is scary
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letting a stranger into your house.
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Your heart's already broken,
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you don't wanna have it broken again.
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I promise I wouldn't put you through this
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unless I knew there was
reason to hope. Just hope.
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She could have seen
frank's epipen in the car,
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she could have noticed we
had no nuts in our kitchen,
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or a million other clues
I might have missed.
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But still. That night, I
slept a full eight hours
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for the first time in a year.
So, I guess in some way,
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I did believe it.
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You put the defendant up
in your guest room, correct?
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Yes. It was impossible
to know when, or if,
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she'd see anything
that we could have used.
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So she stayed.
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And did she ask for
anything besides the room?
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Some sort of payment?
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We offered, she refused.
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Then she got a call from her landlord.
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She was behind on rent,
so she'd have to go back
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and move her things out.
So we paid it off for her.
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We could afford it.
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Little by little, other things came up.
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Loans. Car payments. So she stayed.
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And a week turned into a month,
which turned into two months.
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- Why welcome her in?
- Why pay off her debts?
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What made you think
she was legitimate?
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She'd done it before.
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She found that girl. The one in Nevada.
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Lorraine led the police right to her,
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and now she's in college.
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She'd done it once.
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I thought she could do it again.
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- Hi.
- Hi.
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Still keep the freezer
stocked with mint chip.
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Good.
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Never know when he might
come back and want some.
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Nothing new?
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It's only been four days
since I last saw him.
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- Yeah. Yeah.
- Don't read into it.
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Thanks.
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- You're all right to stay, yeah?
- Of course.
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There's no one missing me in Missouri.
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- No one? No, no family?
- Not really.
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You and Melissa are...
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It's good you have each other.
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Yeah, it's a great balance.
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She's vegetables, and I'm ice cream.
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I was always the one who indulged Rory.
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Like the stuffed koala on his bed.
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When he saw that at the convention,
258
00:15:42,610 --> 00:15:44,026
he begged me for it.
259
00:15:44,050 --> 00:15:46,096
He'd look at me with those big eyes.
260
00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,890
I swear to god, the kid knew
exactly what he was doing.
261
00:15:49,490 --> 00:15:53,030
Yeah. There were so many people there.
262
00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,210
I turned away for a second.
263
00:15:58,140 --> 00:16:01,396
Maybe if I didn't, he wouldn't have...
264
00:16:01,420 --> 00:16:05,806
Hey. It's not your fault. It's not.
265
00:16:05,830 --> 00:16:07,130
Yeah...
266
00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,446
Nothing made him happier
than mornings his dad
267
00:16:09,470 --> 00:16:13,140
woke him up to play hooky. Nothing.
268
00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,750
I bet. Good night.
269
00:16:18,180 --> 00:16:20,120
Have you seen anything else?
270
00:16:22,260 --> 00:16:24,606
- Not yet.
- How, how long did it
271
00:16:24,630 --> 00:16:28,476
take the last time? That
girl you found in 2007.
272
00:16:28,500 --> 00:16:30,016
Amelia price.
273
00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,026
How long until you saw the thing
274
00:16:32,050 --> 00:16:33,796
that led the police to her?
275
00:16:33,820 --> 00:16:35,996
I couldn't piece it together.
276
00:16:36,020 --> 00:16:38,320
I just saw fleeting images.
277
00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:45,916
I kept... I kept seeing this row of little jars
278
00:16:45,940 --> 00:16:48,216
with peeling labels on a windowsill.
279
00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,256
Then I could see past
the grimy windowpane,
280
00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,936
out to a water tower with faded lettering.
281
00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,206
I-t-e space s-t.
282
00:16:58,230 --> 00:16:59,906
Then someone found a manufacturer
283
00:16:59,930 --> 00:17:01,376
named granite state steel,
284
00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:06,410
and next to one of
their, water towers was...
285
00:17:07,180 --> 00:17:08,826
A trailer park.
286
00:17:08,850 --> 00:17:11,036
They knocked on doors,
287
00:17:11,060 --> 00:17:14,260
the guy ran, and they found Amelia.
288
00:17:15,730 --> 00:17:19,170
Her family sends me
Christmas cards every year.
289
00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,280
It's been 17 years since
you've seen a missing child?
290
00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:30,600
Yes.
291
00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,746
- Good night.
- Good night.
292
00:17:35,770 --> 00:17:37,410
That's it? A blue sedan?
293
00:17:37,910 --> 00:17:40,796
- From the '90s, right?
- It could be the early aughts.
294
00:17:40,820 --> 00:17:43,766
Definitely an older model.
With a pull-down armrest
295
00:17:43,790 --> 00:17:47,336
in the backseat. Rory
was using to draw on it.
296
00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:49,376
And, and there was a burger
wrapper in the cup holder.
297
00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,540
- Didn't you say that?
- Yeah.
298
00:17:53,810 --> 00:17:55,456
Are, are you gonna write it down?
299
00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,396
Okay. I'll write it down,
300
00:17:57,420 --> 00:17:59,896
along with your other tips. Yeah.
301
00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:01,936
An older woman with a southern accent,
302
00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,406
a backyard with a tire swing,
303
00:18:03,430 --> 00:18:06,070
and the sounds of Jack-hammering
from a construction site.
304
00:18:06,900 --> 00:18:09,946
You didn't also happen
to see like a license plate?
305
00:18:09,970 --> 00:18:12,910
Or a street sign? Or a state flag?
306
00:18:14,020 --> 00:18:17,436
Lorraine has seen things that
can't otherwise be explained.
307
00:18:17,460 --> 00:18:19,166
She knew Rory had that purple car
308
00:18:19,190 --> 00:18:21,706
- the day he disappeared.
- It's not much to go on.
309
00:18:21,730 --> 00:18:23,716
Yeah, but it's something.
310
00:18:23,740 --> 00:18:25,786
I didn't peg you as much
of a believer, Ms. Conley.
311
00:18:25,810 --> 00:18:28,456
Well, at least it's better
than the nothing your office
312
00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,126
has to show for the past year.
313
00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:31,526
Okay. Just because
we don't have answers,
314
00:18:31,550 --> 00:18:33,120
doesn't mean we're not still looking.
315
00:18:33,490 --> 00:18:36,706
We're tracking half a
dozen child-abduction cases.
316
00:18:36,730 --> 00:18:37,806
Three in particular.
317
00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:40,006
If we solve one of those,
it could lead us to him.
318
00:18:40,030 --> 00:18:42,686
So, I apologize
319
00:18:42,710 --> 00:18:45,186
if I'm not keen on wasting our resources
320
00:18:45,210 --> 00:18:46,626
tracking down a palm reader's tip.
321
00:18:46,650 --> 00:18:48,396
She found that girl, Amelia price.
322
00:18:48,420 --> 00:18:50,166
A broken clock's right twice a day.
323
00:18:50,190 --> 00:18:52,066
But it's not just random guesses,
324
00:18:52,090 --> 00:18:53,466
I gave concrete details.
325
00:18:53,490 --> 00:18:55,946
Yeah, that's great, fine, great,
326
00:18:55,970 --> 00:18:57,576
but you're not exactly one for one,
327
00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,086
are you, Ms. Howell?
328
00:18:59,110 --> 00:19:01,356
I looked you up on the ncic database
329
00:19:01,380 --> 00:19:02,926
and there were six cases, six I could find,
330
00:19:02,950 --> 00:19:05,226
I'm sure there were more
where you offered information.
331
00:19:05,250 --> 00:19:07,366
For someone who can't force a vision,
332
00:19:07,390 --> 00:19:09,136
you've got a lot to say.
333
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,976
And not enough of a
track record to back it up.
334
00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,176
I wonder if you're more
worried about your track record
335
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,016
than mine. Those are a lot of case files.
336
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,286
Maybe you've bitten off too much?
337
00:19:18,310 --> 00:19:20,296
A man your age has to
be looking at the clock,
338
00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,166
hoping for that promotion to captain.
339
00:19:22,190 --> 00:19:24,966
Maybe it's easier to brush these pesky,
340
00:19:24,990 --> 00:19:28,460
unsolvable cases out of sight.
341
00:19:30,300 --> 00:19:31,770
I think we're done here.
342
00:19:35,950 --> 00:19:41,360
- Do yourself a favor?
- Start ironing your shirts.
343
00:19:44,530 --> 00:19:46,546
You're so right, I mean,
look at his case load.
344
00:19:46,570 --> 00:19:48,316
He can't afford to have
someone else show him up.
345
00:19:48,340 --> 00:19:50,346
There were other cases?
346
00:19:50,370 --> 00:19:52,356
- Sorry?
- You said the last case
347
00:19:52,380 --> 00:19:54,656
you took was the Nevada
girl. But there were others.
348
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,836
Yeah six. Six, since Amelia price.
349
00:19:58,860 --> 00:20:02,770
- Why didn't you tell us?
- In some cases, my...
350
00:20:03,230 --> 00:20:05,216
Connection was severed.
351
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,810
So you lied.
352
00:20:08,980 --> 00:20:11,026
Yes, I lied.
353
00:20:11,050 --> 00:20:12,496
Did you really want to know
354
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,536
that I stopped being able to see
355
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,536
four of the six children,
356
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,476
and that they were later found dead?
357
00:20:18,500 --> 00:20:22,616
Did you really want to know
how often this doesn't work out?
358
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,826
I'm sorry, but I was protecting you.
359
00:20:25,850 --> 00:20:27,620
Rory is alive.
360
00:20:28,050 --> 00:20:29,896
That much I know.
361
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,030
Just like I knew about Amelia.
362
00:20:40,410 --> 00:20:43,326
The day we found Amelia
price was a great day.
363
00:20:43,350 --> 00:20:46,226
A great day. I was on Dan rather,
364
00:20:46,250 --> 00:20:48,596
and I remember, he
called me a hero, and I said,
365
00:20:48,620 --> 00:20:51,106
look, the world had given up.
366
00:20:51,130 --> 00:20:54,000
But not me. Not the family.
367
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,246
And not Lorraine.
368
00:20:56,270 --> 00:20:58,486
We had no leads, you know.
369
00:20:58,510 --> 00:21:00,356
Most of the team had been reassigned.
370
00:21:00,380 --> 00:21:02,296
It was just me and the tip desk.
371
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,696
Lorraine was a godsend.
372
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,276
Deserved every bit of that reward.
373
00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:10,246
And how much of the
reward did you receive
374
00:21:10,270 --> 00:21:11,776
- for solving the case?
- None.
375
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,216
And how were your financial
circumstances at the time?
376
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,586
I was doing all right.
377
00:21:15,610 --> 00:21:17,396
I picked the steelers over the seahawks
378
00:21:17,420 --> 00:21:20,126
- in the super bowl, so...
- So you weren't experiencing
379
00:21:20,150 --> 00:21:22,806
any financial hardship in 2006, correct?
380
00:21:22,830 --> 00:21:24,776
- Not particularly.
- Your honor,
381
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,370
I'd like to offer into evidence
the following document.
382
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,410
Detective, do you recognize what this is?
383
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,706
Yeah, it's a letter from
the court from march 2006.
384
00:21:38,730 --> 00:21:40,936
You're eight months
behind on your child support.
385
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,546
- Well yeah, but...
- explain the highlighted
386
00:21:43,570 --> 00:21:46,116
portion on the list of assets
from your divorce settlement?
387
00:21:46,140 --> 00:21:49,356
This has nothing to do with it.
388
00:21:49,380 --> 00:21:51,496
I'd just bought a new Ford f-150.
389
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,666
I was paying it off. Look, I saved up,
390
00:21:53,690 --> 00:21:56,936
I got a promotion. I
could pull in more overtime
391
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,946
once the price case
was off my desk, all right?
392
00:21:58,970 --> 00:22:01,746
You said you were the only
one monitoring the tip line,
393
00:22:01,770 --> 00:22:04,656
and had a tip come in,
you would have received
394
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,896
none of the reward money, correct?
395
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:08,966
That's what I said.
396
00:22:08,990 --> 00:22:12,036
So, just at time that
you were short on funds,
397
00:22:12,060 --> 00:22:16,146
an outside party who claimed
to have a supernatural gift,
398
00:22:16,170 --> 00:22:18,176
happened to offer up information
399
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,646
that would reinforce her claim
400
00:22:19,670 --> 00:22:21,416
- and secure her the reward money?
- Hold on...
401
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,126
Wouldn't you both have benefited
402
00:22:23,150 --> 00:22:24,396
from splitting the reward money?
403
00:22:24,420 --> 00:22:26,366
That's not at all what happened, all right?
404
00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:29,206
I did my job, I brought Amelia home,
405
00:22:29,230 --> 00:22:31,106
and I'm not the one on trial here.
406
00:22:31,130 --> 00:22:32,700
No further questions, your honor.
407
00:22:37,140 --> 00:22:41,256
I... I-I can't get my statements.
408
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,596
The bank's records
don't go back that far.
409
00:22:43,620 --> 00:22:46,506
But I used the reward to
pay off my credit card debt.
410
00:22:46,530 --> 00:22:48,476
- I didn't know that man before.
- Okay. Okay.
411
00:22:48,500 --> 00:22:52,870
I didn't speak to him
after. You have to trust me.
412
00:23:04,530 --> 00:23:06,706
Detective serrano, you have stated
413
00:23:06,730 --> 00:23:10,046
that the defendant fed
the conleys false hope,
414
00:23:10,070 --> 00:23:11,986
that her so-called
visions had nothing to do
415
00:23:12,010 --> 00:23:13,826
with the disappearance of Rory conley.
416
00:23:13,850 --> 00:23:16,696
- Can you state that conclusively?
- Yes, I can.
417
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,520
And how do you know that for a fact?
418
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,376
Frank?
419
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,816
Maybe it's better if we sit.
420
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,716
- No, I don't want to sit down.
- Ms. Conley
421
00:23:26,740 --> 00:23:28,626
just say it.
422
00:23:28,650 --> 00:23:30,010
I have some news.
423
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:31,890
It's not good news,
424
00:23:32,220 --> 00:23:33,536
but maybe, I hope, it'll bring you
425
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,090
some amount of peace.
426
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,500
Last night, we charged a man
with the murder of your son.
427
00:23:42,670 --> 00:23:43,940
No.
428
00:23:44,410 --> 00:23:46,286
How do... how do you know?
429
00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:47,426
He confessed.
430
00:23:47,450 --> 00:23:50,150
No!
431
00:23:57,340 --> 00:23:59,946
Four days ago, a retired contractor
432
00:23:59,970 --> 00:24:02,626
named Matthew Lee Boyd
was stopped at a d.U.I.
433
00:24:02,650 --> 00:24:04,696
Checkpoint in Virginia.
434
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,226
His fingerprints matched those
435
00:24:06,250 --> 00:24:09,536
of a case of a missing
Pittsburgh boy, Noah Jackson.
436
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,236
In the trunk of his car,
we found children's toys
437
00:24:12,260 --> 00:24:13,506
and zip ties.
438
00:24:13,530 --> 00:24:15,616
Now, while under interrogation,
439
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,056
he admitted to two more murders.
440
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,726
One boy had gone missing in
Richmond, that's Caden greer,
441
00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:25,730
and the second was... was Rory.
442
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,646
Did he... Did he tell
you where he took Rory?
443
00:24:32,670 --> 00:24:35,786
Well, he was on a bender,
so he doesn't remember much,
444
00:24:35,810 --> 00:24:38,566
but he is cooperating. It'll take some time
445
00:24:38,590 --> 00:24:41,036
to track down the bodies. But for now,
446
00:24:41,060 --> 00:24:43,766
we have his license plate
charged with a highway toll
447
00:24:43,790 --> 00:24:46,576
on i-85 around the time
that Rory disappeared.
448
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,816
- Are you sure that's...
- no! You don't talk!
449
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,240
You don't say one single damn thing.
450
00:25:01,860 --> 00:25:04,816
What are you doing?
Why aren't you packing?
451
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,180
Do you need some
help? Here, I'll help you.
452
00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:11,526
- Melissa, hey, whoa...
- I told you to get out.
453
00:25:11,550 --> 00:25:13,326
What is wrong with
you? Why won't you go?
454
00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:15,120
The police have it wrong.
455
00:25:20,940 --> 00:25:23,546
- The police have it wrong.
- How do you know?
456
00:25:23,570 --> 00:25:25,556
Frank, please don't keep falling for it.
457
00:25:25,580 --> 00:25:27,656
How can they say anything conclusively
458
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,496
- if there's no physical evidence?
- Evidence?
459
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,336
You read tea leaves!
460
00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:34,660
Don't talk to us about evidence!
461
00:25:35,570 --> 00:25:37,646
I swear, I can still feel him.
462
00:25:37,670 --> 00:25:39,646
Yeah, and so can I.
463
00:25:39,670 --> 00:25:43,586
But he was my son, and
I knew him and you didn't.
464
00:25:43,610 --> 00:25:46,596
And you watched this news
clip and hallucinated a boy
465
00:25:46,620 --> 00:25:49,536
that was already dead, you leech!
466
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,830
Just get her out of here.
467
00:26:14,380 --> 00:26:16,050
Wait, Lorraine.
468
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:19,726
Maybe I'm stupid for still believing you.
469
00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:21,236
Maybe it's just wishful thinking.
470
00:26:21,260 --> 00:26:22,960
But I don't want you to go.
471
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,840
' Cause once you go, it's
over. I'm never finding him.
472
00:26:31,940 --> 00:26:33,686
So frank kept her around.
473
00:26:33,710 --> 00:26:35,726
And that's when all hell broke loose.
474
00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:38,536
Inside, a man is being
charged for three murders,
475
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,676
but there are only two bodies.
476
00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:43,846
I feel for the parents of Noah
Jackson and Caden greer,
477
00:26:43,870 --> 00:26:46,046
who are experiencing the unimaginable,
478
00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:49,056
but at least they know
what happened to their child.
479
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,756
I don't. Matthew Lee
Boyd has not been able
480
00:26:51,780 --> 00:26:54,796
to point to Rory's body. He doesn't know.
481
00:26:54,820 --> 00:26:57,876
- The true crime podcasts.
- The social media sleuths.
482
00:26:57,900 --> 00:27:00,916
Someone found cctv
footage of a blue '98 sedan
483
00:27:00,940 --> 00:27:02,846
near the convention center that day,
484
00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:04,686
so that meant Lorraine must be right.
485
00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:06,426
Right now, I'm focused on convicting
486
00:27:06,450 --> 00:27:09,096
a confessed criminal, okay?
So please, out of my way.
487
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:11,066
I understand why detective serrano
488
00:27:11,090 --> 00:27:12,636
wants this case closed, but he hasn't
489
00:27:12,660 --> 00:27:14,336
produced sufficient proof.
490
00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:15,876
You don't always get
the physical evidence,
491
00:27:15,900 --> 00:27:17,616
but I'm pretty damn close.
492
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,586
If the police are asking
me to abandon hope
493
00:27:19,610 --> 00:27:23,386
that my son is alive, I need certainty.
494
00:27:23,410 --> 00:27:25,496
Not "pretty damn close."
495
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,496
You can't blame a grieving father.
496
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,306
He wanted to keep his boy alive.
497
00:27:29,330 --> 00:27:30,806
But what did she want?
498
00:27:30,830 --> 00:27:32,776
Why couldn't she let it go?
499
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,670
Maybe she needed to keep
her resume clean for next time.
500
00:27:41,220 --> 00:27:42,726
Can I come in?
501
00:27:42,750 --> 00:27:44,960
Yes. Of course.
502
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,870
I found this place on our
credit card statements.
503
00:27:53,710 --> 00:27:55,356
Sixty bucks a night?
504
00:27:55,380 --> 00:27:56,556
That's highway robbery.
505
00:27:56,580 --> 00:27:57,826
Well, frank said he wanted to
506
00:27:57,850 --> 00:27:59,626
frank doesn't have it in him to tell you no.
507
00:27:59,650 --> 00:28:01,420
Same as with Rory.
508
00:28:02,590 --> 00:28:04,560
He lets you take advantage of him.
509
00:28:05,060 --> 00:28:08,340
Rory couldn't take
advantage of you, could he?
510
00:28:08,670 --> 00:28:11,386
No. I was the strict one.
511
00:28:11,410 --> 00:28:12,756
Someone had to be.
512
00:28:12,780 --> 00:28:14,256
Yeah.
513
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,426
Otherwise, he'd be up
till midnight every night
514
00:28:16,450 --> 00:28:17,920
eating Froot Loops.
515
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,806
And you thought, when he was older,
516
00:28:20,830 --> 00:28:22,430
he would understand.
517
00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:25,786
I figured he'd have self-control,
518
00:28:25,810 --> 00:28:28,710
and teeth with no
cavities, and he'd thank me.
519
00:28:29,580 --> 00:28:31,150
But now he's gone.
520
00:28:33,090 --> 00:28:36,560
And he knew me as the
lady who only said no.
521
00:28:37,260 --> 00:28:39,046
- I'm sure he didn't...
- the district attorney
522
00:28:39,070 --> 00:28:40,876
reached out to me. They
want to prosecute you
523
00:28:40,900 --> 00:28:43,346
for exploiting our situation
and standing in the way
524
00:28:43,370 --> 00:28:44,580
of an investigation.
525
00:28:45,180 --> 00:28:47,596
These things carry prison time.
526
00:28:47,620 --> 00:28:49,320
Forfeiture of assets.
527
00:28:52,860 --> 00:28:55,306
Wh... why are you telling me this?
528
00:28:55,330 --> 00:28:57,546
They won't have a case
without my testimony.
529
00:28:57,570 --> 00:29:00,110
So I won't cooperate.
530
00:29:00,510 --> 00:29:02,010
On one condition.
531
00:29:02,910 --> 00:29:05,120
Tell frank you got it wrong.
532
00:29:05,990 --> 00:29:08,060
Tell him Rory's gone.
533
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,066
- Melissa...
- as long as you keep
534
00:29:10,090 --> 00:29:12,006
his hope alive, the wound will never heal.
535
00:29:12,030 --> 00:29:15,246
And-and we have to move on.
536
00:29:15,270 --> 00:29:19,126
And it is not too late, and
we could start over, and...
537
00:29:19,150 --> 00:29:20,350
Please.
538
00:29:21,050 --> 00:29:22,050
Please?
539
00:29:22,690 --> 00:29:24,820
I've already lost my son.
540
00:29:25,460 --> 00:29:27,390
I can't lose my husband, too.
541
00:29:30,030 --> 00:29:33,840
I didn't ask for this. I saw something.
542
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:37,086
You said it had enough
truth to it that I should
543
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:40,496
uproot my life. And yes, I
didn't leave much behind.
544
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,766
And yes, I accepted your money,
545
00:29:42,790 --> 00:29:45,976
but that doesn't mean I am a fraud.
546
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,500
Please, just tell me how much. Please.
547
00:29:51,710 --> 00:29:53,810
Look at where I am.
548
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,496
If I could be bought, don't you think
549
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,506
I would have been
bought? If, if I were a fraud,
550
00:30:00,530 --> 00:30:01,876
I would cut my losses
551
00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:03,776
and take the get-out-of-jail-free card.
552
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,616
If, if I were a fraud,
553
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,186
I would be able to sleep at night
554
00:30:07,210 --> 00:30:10,056
without seeing a missing
child I never knew.
555
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:15,036
Do you have any idea
what this gift has cost me?
556
00:30:15,060 --> 00:30:17,806
A marriage. A family.
557
00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:20,206
Everyone wants me to see something!
558
00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:22,686
But if I can't, or if I do,
but it's not the right thing,
559
00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:26,456
then I am a con artist and a liar!
560
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,866
I don't see lottery numbers!
561
00:30:29,890 --> 00:30:31,890
I see pain.
562
00:30:32,730 --> 00:30:34,530
I
563
00:30:35,770 --> 00:30:38,200
I turn toward it...
564
00:30:39,270 --> 00:30:42,110
'Cause I am the only one who can.
565
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,946
Why didn't Matthew Lee
Boyd's case go to trial?
566
00:30:56,970 --> 00:30:59,256
He took a plea. Three life sentences.
567
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,096
- Was that your recommendation?
- Absolutely not.
568
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,706
I said forget the death
penalty, I'll strangle him myself.
569
00:31:05,730 --> 00:31:07,106
But when it came down to it,
570
00:31:07,130 --> 00:31:08,606
I could for ego the punishment
571
00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:10,846
to save the families
from sitting through a trial.
572
00:31:10,870 --> 00:31:12,616
So other words, he was so guilty
573
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,946
beyond all reasonable doubt,
574
00:31:13,970 --> 00:31:15,926
a trial would only serve to prolong
575
00:31:15,950 --> 00:31:18,096
- the victims' families' pain?
- Correct.
576
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,366
Your honor, I would like
to offer the following video
577
00:31:20,390 --> 00:31:21,466
into evidence.
578
00:31:21,490 --> 00:31:24,100
Detective, what do you
recognize this video to be?
579
00:31:24,460 --> 00:31:27,600
That is my interrogation
of Matthew Lee Boyd.
580
00:31:29,340 --> 00:31:31,156
There's another one, isn't there?
581
00:31:31,180 --> 00:31:34,520
- There was a third.
- A third kid? A boy?
582
00:31:35,450 --> 00:31:37,366
- A boy, yeah.
- Where?
583
00:31:37,390 --> 00:31:39,736
- I don't remember.
- Yeah, you do.
584
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,906
What do you remember?
Are they gonna kill me?
585
00:31:42,930 --> 00:31:45,746
Maybe. These are capital crimes.
586
00:31:45,770 --> 00:31:47,016
But if you cooperate,
587
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,856
we may not pursue the death penalty.
588
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,496
Where was the third boy?
589
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,726
Near the water. Big crowd.
590
00:31:52,750 --> 00:31:55,060
A convention?
591
00:31:57,030 --> 00:31:59,330
Yeah. A convention.
592
00:32:01,170 --> 00:32:03,246
So Boyd had no lawyer
during a confession
593
00:32:03,270 --> 00:32:05,056
that led to a guilty plea,
594
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,826
and no trial during which that confession
595
00:32:06,850 --> 00:32:08,226
could be properly examined?
596
00:32:08,250 --> 00:32:09,496
He waived his right to a lawyer.
597
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,236
If he pointed you to the other two bodies
598
00:32:11,260 --> 00:32:13,306
within hours, why not make
the location of the third body
599
00:32:13,330 --> 00:32:14,906
a condition of the plea agreement?
600
00:32:14,930 --> 00:32:16,876
- It wasn't up to me.
- Did you recommend
601
00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:18,316
not pursuing the death penalty
602
00:32:18,340 --> 00:32:20,986
in order to elicit a confession
for Rory conley's murder?
603
00:32:21,010 --> 00:32:23,256
Yes. That's how confessions happen.
604
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,596
Even knowing his confession
605
00:32:24,620 --> 00:32:27,690
rested upon information
you yourself gave him?
606
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,886
Do you swear that the
evidence you give to the court
607
00:32:38,910 --> 00:32:40,426
shall be the truth, the whole truth,
608
00:32:40,450 --> 00:32:42,826
and nothing but the
truth, so help you god?
609
00:32:42,850 --> 00:32:44,520
I do.
610
00:32:47,130 --> 00:32:49,346
When did you first become aware
611
00:32:49,370 --> 00:32:53,016
you possessed such
an extraordinary gift?
612
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,256
I was too young to remember
613
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,696
when my brother was
shipped off to Vietnam.
614
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,936
But I remember when my family
615
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,036
got the call saying his unit
616
00:33:03,060 --> 00:33:06,376
had gone out on night
patrol and never come back.
617
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,616
Four confirmed dead,
two missing in action.
618
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,316
We knew what that meant.
He was dead, but no bodies.
619
00:33:11,340 --> 00:33:14,750
My mother was out of her mind.
620
00:33:15,050 --> 00:33:19,436
Joe was the oldest, her golden boy.
621
00:33:19,460 --> 00:33:22,500
I didn't understand what
was happening. I couldn't...
622
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,670
Console her.
623
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,616
One day, I was in Joe's room.
624
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,280
And I saw him.
625
00:33:33,650 --> 00:33:37,490
Somewhere far away,
wrapped in a checkerboard quilt.
626
00:33:39,630 --> 00:33:40,946
Green and white.
627
00:33:40,970 --> 00:33:42,570
What did you make of it?
628
00:33:43,340 --> 00:33:45,216
I knew it wasn't a hallucination.
629
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,026
I tried to imagine where he was before,
630
00:33:47,050 --> 00:33:48,626
but this was different.
631
00:33:48,650 --> 00:33:50,250
I knew...
632
00:33:51,220 --> 00:33:54,830
This was happening.
633
00:33:55,130 --> 00:33:58,046
I knew he was alive.
634
00:33:58,070 --> 00:34:00,486
Did your family believe you?
635
00:34:00,510 --> 00:34:03,026
My mother didn't need any convincing.
636
00:34:03,050 --> 00:34:05,666
We'd sit... together at night
637
00:34:05,690 --> 00:34:09,936
and I'd tell her what I saw.
638
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,070
How Joe needed a haircut and
639
00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:17,686
a shower.
640
00:34:17,710 --> 00:34:20,056
And then you got the call.
641
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,490
Yes. They had negotiated his release...
642
00:34:24,420 --> 00:34:29,060
From a prison camp, and he
was alive and coming home.
643
00:34:31,070 --> 00:34:32,300
It...
644
00:34:33,540 --> 00:34:37,780
And it was, it was like our
lives were starting up again.
645
00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:43,336
The day after he came back,
he said that the one thing
646
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,500
that kept him going was playing chess.
647
00:34:49,370 --> 00:34:51,540
And it turned out that...
648
00:34:52,110 --> 00:34:56,550
That chessboard was green and white.
649
00:34:58,260 --> 00:35:00,306
We have some clippings
from the local paper
650
00:35:00,330 --> 00:35:01,830
to offer into evidence.
651
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,866
So, if you are a fraud, is it fair to say
652
00:35:15,890 --> 00:35:18,760
you began your grift quite early?
653
00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:21,470
And for no money at all?
654
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,626
Ms. Howell, did it feel good,
655
00:35:28,650 --> 00:35:31,196
seeing how grateful the conleys were?
656
00:35:31,220 --> 00:35:32,766
How much your
information meant to them?
657
00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:35,806
I was happy to be able
to provide that hope.
658
00:35:35,830 --> 00:35:38,046
Just as I'm sure you
were happy to provide
659
00:35:38,070 --> 00:35:39,946
- hope that to your own mother?
- Yes.
660
00:35:39,970 --> 00:35:42,686
Now you said that your
brother was the golden child.
661
00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:43,786
What did that make you?
662
00:35:43,810 --> 00:35:46,696
I was shy. Quiet. The youngest of five.
663
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:50,636
My mother was sure I
would ruin my eyesight
664
00:35:50,660 --> 00:35:52,106
with how much time I spent reading.
665
00:35:52,130 --> 00:35:54,646
But she was much more
focused on my brothers.
666
00:35:54,670 --> 00:35:56,616
And when you were the only
one that knew your brother
667
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,916
was alive, did it bring you together?
668
00:35:58,940 --> 00:36:01,396
Yes. We leaned on each other.
669
00:36:01,420 --> 00:36:05,636
Gosh, that feeling, that
feeling of being a hero,
670
00:36:05,660 --> 00:36:09,460
being important... Must
have been intoxicating?
671
00:36:10,830 --> 00:36:13,086
I suppose. I was very young.
672
00:36:13,110 --> 00:36:14,716
Well, fast-forward to now.
673
00:36:14,740 --> 00:36:17,726
You've had some very
high-profile successes,
674
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:19,296
some quiet failures.
675
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,966
Tell me, why do you
keep going back to it?
676
00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:25,360
Because I... I.
677
00:36:26,330 --> 00:36:29,216
- I have to.
- You "have to".
678
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:31,386
You have to what? Make up for your first,
679
00:36:31,410 --> 00:36:33,050
greatest failure?
680
00:36:33,980 --> 00:36:36,250
Please tell us about the
passing of your brother.
681
00:36:39,260 --> 00:36:41,776
Four years after he came home,
682
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,846
he was killed in a head-on
collision with a drunk driver
683
00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:47,786
on route 108. He was on his
way to pick me up from school.
684
00:36:47,810 --> 00:36:49,686
And when you failed
to foresee the accident,
685
00:36:49,710 --> 00:36:52,356
did you blame yourself? He was on...
686
00:36:52,380 --> 00:36:54,566
He was on his way to pick
me up, how could I not?
687
00:36:54,590 --> 00:36:59,276
But I, I never claimed to
be able to see the future.
688
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:00,676
I wish I could.
689
00:37:00,700 --> 00:37:02,746
But your mother believed
wholeheartedly in your gift,
690
00:37:02,770 --> 00:37:05,926
didn't she? And did that
belief lead her to place
691
00:37:05,950 --> 00:37:08,226
all the responsibility for
keeping your brother safe
692
00:37:08,250 --> 00:37:10,920
- onto you?
- She didn't blame me, no.
693
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,836
But she never quite trusted me again.
694
00:37:14,860 --> 00:37:16,376
And what about the rest of your family,
695
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,440
would you consider
yourselves estranged?
696
00:37:19,970 --> 00:37:21,056
No.
697
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,880
When was the last time you saw them?
698
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,726
2002 at my mother's funeral.
699
00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:28,436
Is that why you seek out new families?
700
00:37:28,460 --> 00:37:31,406
Desperate, broken ones like the conleys,
701
00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:33,670
who welcomed you with open arms?
702
00:37:37,070 --> 00:37:39,686
I just wanna help.
703
00:37:39,710 --> 00:37:40,796
Maybe.
704
00:37:40,820 --> 00:37:42,996
Maybe by offering them
what you couldn't provide
705
00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:45,436
for your own family gives
you meaning in your life?
706
00:37:45,460 --> 00:37:47,336
If I did it only for myself,
707
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,116
I'd have learned by
now to stay far, far away.
708
00:37:51,140 --> 00:37:54,286
And yet you've spent your
life seeking to be indispensable
709
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:56,256
to people in pain, haven't you?
710
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,456
Would you say, Ms.
Howell, that the trouble
711
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,766
with an unpredictable
gift, felt only by the one
712
00:38:00,790 --> 00:38:03,906
who possesses it, is that it
bears a striking resemblance
713
00:38:03,930 --> 00:38:05,960
to somebody just making guesses?
714
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,040
But I'm not just making guesses.
715
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,986
I'm, I'm not lying.
716
00:38:14,010 --> 00:38:16,796
But how can you be sure
you're telling the truth?
717
00:38:16,820 --> 00:38:20,266
I mean, after all, isn't a
truly successful fraudster's
718
00:38:20,290 --> 00:38:22,430
first victim herself?
719
00:38:24,540 --> 00:38:26,440
No further questions your honor.
720
00:38:28,910 --> 00:38:30,726
In a trial for fraud, the state is required
721
00:38:30,750 --> 00:38:33,426
to prove three things
beyond a reasonable doubt.
722
00:38:33,450 --> 00:38:37,906
That the defendant knowingly
misrepresented facts.
723
00:38:37,930 --> 00:38:41,416
Two, the defendant
had an intent to deceive
724
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,186
and succeeded in that deceit.
725
00:38:43,210 --> 00:38:47,456
And three, the deception
was done for financial benefit.
726
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,026
It's not a question of
whether the defendant
727
00:38:49,050 --> 00:38:51,566
was right or wrong. That
much we may never know.
728
00:38:51,590 --> 00:38:53,706
It's not a question of
whether she profited financially
729
00:38:53,730 --> 00:38:56,606
when all is said and
done. It doesn't even matter
730
00:38:56,630 --> 00:38:59,316
whether you believe
she's entirely delusional.
731
00:38:59,340 --> 00:39:01,286
What it comes down to is this:
732
00:39:01,310 --> 00:39:03,556
Did Lorraine ho well
733
00:39:03,580 --> 00:39:06,190
believe what she was telling the conleys?
734
00:39:06,820 --> 00:39:10,166
The girl who kept her family's hope alive,
735
00:39:10,190 --> 00:39:13,446
the woman who
knowingly exposes herself
736
00:39:13,470 --> 00:39:15,576
to some of the worst pain in the world...
737
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,550
Does that woman have
faith in her own gift?
738
00:39:46,130 --> 00:39:47,840
I don't want the money back.
739
00:39:49,970 --> 00:39:52,586
I don't want her to go to
jail. I didn't do it to punish her,
740
00:39:52,610 --> 00:39:54,386
I did it to convince you.
741
00:39:54,410 --> 00:39:56,266
Maybe seeing it all laid out, in court
742
00:39:56,290 --> 00:39:58,266
you saw the same tape I saw.
743
00:39:58,290 --> 00:39:59,890
- It wasn't a real confession...
- Stop.
744
00:40:03,670 --> 00:40:05,916
I can't keep going around and around.
745
00:40:05,940 --> 00:40:09,040
There will always be reasons to doubt.
746
00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:14,690
What kind of father
would I be if I gave up?
747
00:40:18,060 --> 00:40:20,530
You were a wonderful father.
748
00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:24,210
And you could be, again.
749
00:40:27,850 --> 00:40:30,590
But I'm tired of hoping, frank.
750
00:40:32,260 --> 00:40:34,490
I can't do it anymore.
751
00:40:37,470 --> 00:40:39,486
Has the jury reached a verdict?
752
00:40:39,510 --> 00:40:41,486
We have, your honor.
753
00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:44,626
We the jury, in the case of
the state of north Carolina
754
00:40:44,650 --> 00:40:48,920
versus Lorraine ho well,
find the defendant not guilty.
755
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,306
Jurors, thank you for your service.
756
00:40:54,330 --> 00:40:56,416
This court is adjourned.
757
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,010
All rise.
758
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:08,606
- Congratulations.
- Thank you.
759
00:41:08,630 --> 00:41:10,500
Lorraine. Lorraine.
760
00:41:13,570 --> 00:41:15,656
You'll call me, right?
761
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,196
Even if you think
something's too small, I wanna,
762
00:41:18,220 --> 00:41:19,596
I wanna hear it.
763
00:41:19,620 --> 00:41:24,600
Yeah. Yeah, this isn't over. It isn't over.
764
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,710
Thank you.
765
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,196
I figured since you
weren't calling me back,
766
00:41:51,220 --> 00:41:53,866
you probably didn't want me
sitting in the back of the court
767
00:41:53,890 --> 00:41:57,130
for the trial. But I wanted
to be here when it was over.
768
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,240
It's good... It's good to see you, ray.
769
00:42:12,790 --> 00:42:15,200
You ready to go home?
770
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,670
Car's fixed.
771
00:42:22,580 --> 00:42:24,850
More or less.
772
00:42:39,140 --> 00:42:40,186
You did all you could.
773
00:42:40,210 --> 00:42:42,820
What else was there
to do but tell the truth?
774
00:43:02,290 --> 00:43:03,860
You okay?
775
00:43:54,490 --> 00:43:57,000
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