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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:22,670 --> 00:00:24,580 What number am I thinking of? 2 00:00:26,110 --> 00:00:27,580 It doesn't work like that. 3 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,660 Seven. It's always seven. 4 00:00:35,530 --> 00:00:36,540 It's time. 5 00:00:53,900 --> 00:00:56,586 I'm so sorry. I really tried. 6 00:00:56,610 --> 00:00:58,856 Well, three different spot treatments didn't work. 7 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,526 I wanted to get your okay. Before trying hydrogen peroxide. 8 00:01:02,550 --> 00:01:05,806 Red wine is an acid, and silks hate acid. 9 00:01:05,830 --> 00:01:08,176 Red wine? No, it's a, it's a ketchup stain. 10 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,846 - No, ketchup's redder. - When it's purple, it's wine. 11 00:01:10,870 --> 00:01:13,086 No, no, no. My husband was at a cardinals game 12 00:01:13,110 --> 00:01:15,226 and someone walked into him holding a hot dog. 13 00:01:15,250 --> 00:01:17,456 You know what? You're so right. 14 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,096 It's ketchup. I will let you know. 15 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,530 - Thank you. - Okay, bye. 16 00:01:27,470 --> 00:01:28,946 We're closed! 17 00:01:28,970 --> 00:01:30,756 Special delivery. 18 00:01:30,780 --> 00:01:32,326 Hey, Lorraine. 19 00:01:32,350 --> 00:01:35,196 Now ray, you're not here to get your tux cleaned. 20 00:01:35,220 --> 00:01:38,236 - I saw your car outside. - I'm still getting your mail. 21 00:01:38,260 --> 00:01:40,630 Thanks. 22 00:01:41,630 --> 00:01:43,246 You figure if you wait long enough, 23 00:01:43,270 --> 00:01:44,846 they'll stop asking for their money? 24 00:01:44,870 --> 00:01:48,316 I'm working late, aren't I? You stopped drinking. 25 00:01:48,340 --> 00:01:50,896 How in the world can you know that? 26 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,466 Have you been going through my trash? 27 00:01:52,490 --> 00:01:54,166 Your pants are too loose. 28 00:01:54,190 --> 00:01:56,466 You're down to the last loop on your belt. 29 00:01:56,490 --> 00:01:58,346 Going on four months now. 30 00:01:58,370 --> 00:01:59,606 Two meetings a week. 31 00:01:59,630 --> 00:02:01,546 I dunno, maybe this time I'll stick. 32 00:02:01,570 --> 00:02:04,726 That's great. Good for you, ray. 33 00:02:04,750 --> 00:02:06,226 How's things around here? 34 00:02:06,250 --> 00:02:09,396 Well, I just got yelled at by jeanie Franco, 35 00:02:09,420 --> 00:02:14,676 whose husband's having an affair with a clumsy red wine drinker. 36 00:02:14,700 --> 00:02:17,376 Tell me you did not put yourself in the middle of that. 37 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,746 I didn't say a word. You'd have been proud of me. 38 00:02:19,770 --> 00:02:22,826 Hey, can I at least pay your cable bill? 39 00:02:22,850 --> 00:02:25,926 I'm the reason you signed up for it in the first place, 40 00:02:25,950 --> 00:02:29,206 and I'm saving a fortune on my bar tab. 41 00:02:29,230 --> 00:02:31,406 You're not paying my damn bills. 42 00:02:31,430 --> 00:02:33,516 I could pay off all of 'em 43 00:02:33,540 --> 00:02:35,770 and we still wouldn't be even, Lorraine. 44 00:02:37,380 --> 00:02:38,810 Take off your pants. 45 00:02:39,550 --> 00:02:41,280 - What? - I'll take 'em in. 46 00:02:41,990 --> 00:02:44,496 You want me to walk out of here in my underpants? 47 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,830 I got something in your size. 48 00:02:47,630 --> 00:02:49,846 He's not gonna come in looking for it? 49 00:02:49,870 --> 00:02:51,046 If he hasn't needed a set 50 00:02:51,070 --> 00:02:52,746 of work clothes in a month, he got fired. 51 00:02:52,770 --> 00:02:54,516 In Charlotte north Carolina this morning... 52 00:02:54,540 --> 00:02:56,656 - All right. - Melissa and frank conley 53 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,626 made an impassioned plea to the public 54 00:02:58,650 --> 00:03:02,366 for the safe return of their son Rory conley. 55 00:03:02,390 --> 00:03:06,346 Rory is six. He's tall for his age, 56 00:03:06,370 --> 00:03:09,146 with brown hair and gaps in his teeth. 57 00:03:09,170 --> 00:03:10,716 He was dressed as a fox. 58 00:03:10,740 --> 00:03:13,126 It's been a year since their five-year-old son 59 00:03:13,150 --> 00:03:15,566 was abducted from Charlotte comic expo. 60 00:03:15,590 --> 00:03:18,436 The good news is, I can always look for work 61 00:03:18,460 --> 00:03:20,436 as a security guard. 62 00:03:20,460 --> 00:03:22,846 The family now offering a reward... 63 00:03:22,870 --> 00:03:24,946 - What? - Of up to $50,000 64 00:03:24,970 --> 00:03:28,286 for information that could lead to his safe return. 65 00:03:28,310 --> 00:03:30,550 Is it happening again? 66 00:03:39,470 --> 00:03:42,270 Why are you being so dramatic? 67 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,980 You have the best view in the house. 68 00:03:47,450 --> 00:03:49,690 You'll be okay. 69 00:03:50,620 --> 00:03:52,090 Yeah. 70 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,336 Are you frustrated with the police? 71 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:11,876 Do you know if they're following leads? 72 00:04:11,900 --> 00:04:13,516 They say they're doing their best, 73 00:04:13,540 --> 00:04:16,786 and I guess we have to believe them. Thank you. 74 00:04:16,810 --> 00:04:19,050 Thank you for being here. 75 00:04:42,590 --> 00:04:44,276 You have reached the Charlotte mecklenburg 76 00:04:44,300 --> 00:04:45,546 police missing persons unit. 77 00:04:45,570 --> 00:04:48,670 Please leave your message and phone number after the ton. 78 00:04:49,570 --> 00:04:52,286 Hello. My name is Lorraine ho well. 79 00:04:52,310 --> 00:04:53,696 I live in Branson, Missouri, 80 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,890 and I am calling about Rory conley. 81 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,406 I kept thinking the worst had passed. 82 00:05:00,430 --> 00:05:03,100 But new lows would sneak up on us. 83 00:05:03,770 --> 00:05:07,410 Each day that passed meant it was that much less likely. 84 00:05:08,210 --> 00:05:10,956 The police said they'd call when they knew something. 85 00:05:10,980 --> 00:05:13,560 But the phone never rang. 86 00:05:14,890 --> 00:05:15,890 And then it did. 87 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,646 The detective on the case said someone had come forward 88 00:05:18,670 --> 00:05:22,116 with information. It was unsubstantiated, 89 00:05:22,140 --> 00:05:25,450 borderline insane, but... 90 00:05:26,150 --> 00:05:27,950 When you're in pitch darkness, 91 00:05:28,950 --> 00:05:30,660 no light is too small. 92 00:05:30,990 --> 00:05:35,506 This will sound strange, but I can see things sometimes. 93 00:05:35,530 --> 00:05:39,416 Images, strong, clear images, 94 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,426 not hallucinations, they're real. 95 00:05:42,450 --> 00:05:45,896 I, I can see Rory. 96 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,096 He's is alive. 97 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,846 He... he's... There's an older woman 98 00:05:52,870 --> 00:05:55,316 with a southern accent talking to him. 99 00:05:55,340 --> 00:05:58,216 She's telling him to eat Graham crackers, 100 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,096 but he's not listening. He has a, 101 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,066 he has a toy car in his hand, 102 00:06:04,090 --> 00:06:07,606 a little purple toy race car. 103 00:06:07,630 --> 00:06:11,516 He's driving it along a seam in the sofa upholstery, 104 00:06:11,540 --> 00:06:14,916 making sounds like tires squealing. 105 00:06:14,940 --> 00:06:19,026 She was so sure. She told us exactly what we needed to hear. 106 00:06:19,050 --> 00:06:22,060 He has crumbs on his shirt. 107 00:06:22,890 --> 00:06:26,900 He's, he's lost one of his bottom teeth. 108 00:06:29,370 --> 00:06:31,956 He is being cared for. 109 00:06:31,980 --> 00:06:33,826 Please don't give up. 110 00:06:33,850 --> 00:06:36,266 Who wouldn't want to believe their missing son 111 00:06:36,290 --> 00:06:37,660 is still alive? 112 00:06:39,130 --> 00:06:40,900 Even if it was a lie? 113 00:07:05,510 --> 00:07:08,666 Hey. Hey. 114 00:07:08,690 --> 00:07:10,220 Hey. 115 00:07:10,620 --> 00:07:12,466 I got your pants. 116 00:07:12,490 --> 00:07:15,030 Thanks, Lorraine. Really. 117 00:07:16,230 --> 00:07:18,240 And you're throwing in a free fern? 118 00:07:18,870 --> 00:07:20,716 I'm going out of town. Do me a favor, 119 00:07:20,740 --> 00:07:23,056 look after it when I'm gone? 120 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:24,866 I don't have the best track record for keeping 121 00:07:24,890 --> 00:07:27,936 things alive. I can remember one marriage in particular. 122 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,476 You'll do fine. Indirect light, 123 00:07:30,500 --> 00:07:31,946 somewhere nice and humid. 124 00:07:31,970 --> 00:07:33,776 It'll drink as much as you give it. 125 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,610 My kinda plant. 126 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,296 So, how long am I taking care of Mr. Fern? 127 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,966 I don't know. Couple weeks, maybe. 128 00:07:41,990 --> 00:07:45,120 It's the kid, isn't it? The one on TV? 129 00:07:46,530 --> 00:07:48,306 Why, Lorraine? 130 00:07:48,330 --> 00:07:49,646 It's never worth it, 131 00:07:49,670 --> 00:07:52,316 putting yourself in the middle of all that pain. 132 00:07:52,340 --> 00:07:54,316 You're always worse off on the other side. 133 00:07:54,340 --> 00:07:56,126 I have to do this. 134 00:07:56,150 --> 00:07:58,326 No, you don't. Stay. 135 00:07:58,350 --> 00:08:00,266 Let me take you out to dinner. We 136 00:08:00,290 --> 00:08:02,006 I have to go. I have to go. 137 00:08:02,030 --> 00:08:04,760 Don't over-water it. You'll rot the roots. 138 00:08:08,140 --> 00:08:11,416 The purple toy car, that's what did it. 139 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,950 He had it in his pocket the day that he... 140 00:08:17,190 --> 00:08:21,206 It's people like her who claim to be psychics, 141 00:08:21,230 --> 00:08:22,506 they do research. 142 00:08:22,530 --> 00:08:24,416 Maybe she saw him holding it in pictures. 143 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,886 So given that skepticism, why bring her to north Carolina? 144 00:08:27,910 --> 00:08:30,596 She said she needed to be in Rory's room. 145 00:08:30,620 --> 00:08:32,950 Establish a connection. 146 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,306 I wasn't sure. Frank was. 147 00:08:36,330 --> 00:08:38,876 And he knew the magic words. 148 00:08:38,900 --> 00:08:40,546 He said the same thing I tell all my buyers 149 00:08:40,570 --> 00:08:42,570 when they're looking at a house: 150 00:08:43,410 --> 00:08:46,456 All the research in the world doesn't compare to the feeling 151 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,720 you get when it's right in front of you. 152 00:09:01,710 --> 00:09:03,820 You must be frank. 153 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,290 Thank you for coming. 154 00:09:18,550 --> 00:09:20,696 - Outcomes to yourself. - Sorry. 155 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,226 Through the power of manifestation, by focusing on positive thoughts 156 00:09:23,250 --> 00:09:25,966 my wife doesn't believe in any of this stuff. 157 00:09:25,990 --> 00:09:28,306 She'd rather listen to nails on a chalkboard. 158 00:09:28,330 --> 00:09:30,206 I guess even that beats the quiet. 159 00:09:30,230 --> 00:09:33,686 Unless, do you need quiet to... 160 00:09:33,710 --> 00:09:36,556 Get the energies in alignment, or...? 161 00:09:36,580 --> 00:09:38,226 If you'd rather, I can turn it off. 162 00:09:38,250 --> 00:09:40,796 No, it's fine. I'm a... 163 00:09:40,820 --> 00:09:42,706 Normal person, I promise. 164 00:09:42,730 --> 00:09:44,960 Okay. 165 00:10:02,870 --> 00:10:05,740 I'll go get Melissa. Melissa! 166 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,700 Hi. Nice to meet you. I'm Melissa conley. 167 00:10:18,030 --> 00:10:19,046 Lorraine. 168 00:10:19,070 --> 00:10:20,576 I'm so sorry for what you've been through. 169 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,916 Thanks. Thanks for coming. 170 00:10:22,940 --> 00:10:25,726 You smell that? Cookies. 171 00:10:25,750 --> 00:10:28,126 She's been out of the real estate game for a year, 172 00:10:28,150 --> 00:10:30,866 but she still pulls the open house trick. 173 00:10:30,890 --> 00:10:34,036 Don't fall for it, Lorraine. Place is a dump. 174 00:10:34,060 --> 00:10:36,400 I'll bet Rory loved oatmeal raisin. 175 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,616 I, I thought it might help. I don't know. 176 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,680 - Yeah. - Set the mood. 177 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,320 Anyway. Shall we... Shall we begin? 178 00:10:52,330 --> 00:10:54,670 - It's this way. - Okay. 179 00:10:57,380 --> 00:10:59,150 Please. 180 00:11:20,150 --> 00:11:21,666 Anything you need to get started, 181 00:11:21,690 --> 00:11:23,630 you just let us know. 182 00:11:24,460 --> 00:11:26,776 Or, if you'd rather, we could go over what we know. 183 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,246 We've got that folder from the police 184 00:11:28,270 --> 00:11:29,746 - around here somewhere... - Frank. Remember... 185 00:11:29,770 --> 00:11:32,026 - What we talked about? - Yeah. Right. Sorry. 186 00:11:32,050 --> 00:11:34,856 My husband's a talker, but maybe there are things 187 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,960 you could tell us instead? 188 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,700 You don't have to tell me anything. I just. 189 00:11:44,770 --> 00:11:47,380 I get a feeling. 190 00:11:49,450 --> 00:11:51,080 But only sometimes. 191 00:11:51,750 --> 00:11:53,290 Yeah. 192 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,300 It comes or it doesn't. 193 00:12:17,070 --> 00:12:18,047 May I? 194 00:12:18,071 --> 00:12:19,270 Yeah. 195 00:12:40,180 --> 00:12:42,850 Was Rory allergic to peanuts? 196 00:12:45,130 --> 00:12:47,876 No. He didn't have any allergies. 197 00:12:47,900 --> 00:12:50,306 Then why did he sort his Halloween candy 198 00:12:50,330 --> 00:12:52,816 one pile with peanuts, and one without? 199 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,156 - I'm allergic. - Frank... 200 00:12:54,180 --> 00:12:58,096 I, I, I told Rory not to bring peanuts into the house 201 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,426 or he couldn't kiss me goodnight. 202 00:12:59,450 --> 00:13:01,436 And so he would trade the ones with peanuts 203 00:13:01,460 --> 00:13:02,706 for sour gummy worms. 204 00:13:02,730 --> 00:13:03,836 But that doesn't mean that he's alive. 205 00:13:03,860 --> 00:13:05,976 - Or that we're gonna find him. - Yeah. But, yeah, but 206 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,786 no, no, no. You're right, you're right. This is scary 207 00:13:08,810 --> 00:13:11,410 letting a stranger into your house. 208 00:13:13,110 --> 00:13:15,766 Your heart's already broken, 209 00:13:15,790 --> 00:13:19,460 you don't wanna have it broken again. 210 00:13:19,830 --> 00:13:21,506 I promise I wouldn't put you through this 211 00:13:21,530 --> 00:13:25,740 unless I knew there was reason to hope. Just hope. 212 00:13:26,070 --> 00:13:28,356 She could have seen frank's epipen in the car, 213 00:13:28,380 --> 00:13:31,196 she could have noticed we had no nuts in our kitchen, 214 00:13:31,220 --> 00:13:34,060 or a million other clues I might have missed. 215 00:13:34,620 --> 00:13:38,276 But still. That night, I slept a full eight hours 216 00:13:38,300 --> 00:13:41,916 for the first time in a year. So, I guess in some way, 217 00:13:41,940 --> 00:13:43,416 I did believe it. 218 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,356 You put the defendant up in your guest room, correct? 219 00:13:45,380 --> 00:13:48,726 Yes. It was impossible to know when, or if, 220 00:13:48,750 --> 00:13:51,736 she'd see anything that we could have used. 221 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,576 So she stayed. 222 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,576 And did she ask for anything besides the room? 223 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,546 Some sort of payment? 224 00:13:58,570 --> 00:14:00,686 We offered, she refused. 225 00:14:00,710 --> 00:14:02,286 Then she got a call from her landlord. 226 00:14:02,310 --> 00:14:05,156 She was behind on rent, so she'd have to go back 227 00:14:05,180 --> 00:14:08,396 and move her things out. So we paid it off for her. 228 00:14:08,420 --> 00:14:09,706 We could afford it. 229 00:14:09,730 --> 00:14:11,876 Little by little, other things came up. 230 00:14:11,900 --> 00:14:15,316 Loans. Car payments. So she stayed. 231 00:14:15,340 --> 00:14:19,356 And a week turned into a month, which turned into two months. 232 00:14:19,380 --> 00:14:21,866 - Why welcome her in? - Why pay off her debts? 233 00:14:21,890 --> 00:14:24,066 What made you think she was legitimate? 234 00:14:24,090 --> 00:14:26,060 She'd done it before. 235 00:14:26,830 --> 00:14:29,500 She found that girl. The one in Nevada. 236 00:14:30,170 --> 00:14:32,086 Lorraine led the police right to her, 237 00:14:32,110 --> 00:14:33,980 and now she's in college. 238 00:14:34,950 --> 00:14:36,610 She'd done it once. 239 00:14:37,580 --> 00:14:39,490 I thought she could do it again. 240 00:14:50,740 --> 00:14:52,556 - Hi. - Hi. 241 00:14:52,580 --> 00:14:55,380 Still keep the freezer stocked with mint chip. 242 00:14:56,350 --> 00:14:57,366 Good. 243 00:14:57,390 --> 00:15:00,460 Never know when he might come back and want some. 244 00:15:02,430 --> 00:15:03,840 Nothing new? 245 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,256 It's only been four days since I last saw him. 246 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,580 - Yeah. Yeah. - Don't read into it. 247 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,750 Thanks. 248 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,306 - You're all right to stay, yeah? - Of course. 249 00:15:15,330 --> 00:15:17,306 There's no one missing me in Missouri. 250 00:15:17,330 --> 00:15:21,546 - No one? No, no family? - Not really. 251 00:15:21,570 --> 00:15:23,110 You and Melissa are... 252 00:15:23,810 --> 00:15:26,886 It's good you have each other. 253 00:15:26,910 --> 00:15:29,696 Yeah, it's a great balance. 254 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,836 She's vegetables, and I'm ice cream. 255 00:15:33,860 --> 00:15:37,776 I was always the one who indulged Rory. 256 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,986 Like the stuffed koala on his bed. 257 00:15:41,010 --> 00:15:42,586 When he saw that at the convention, 258 00:15:42,610 --> 00:15:44,026 he begged me for it. 259 00:15:44,050 --> 00:15:46,096 He'd look at me with those big eyes. 260 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,890 I swear to god, the kid knew exactly what he was doing. 261 00:15:49,490 --> 00:15:53,030 Yeah. There were so many people there. 262 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,210 I turned away for a second. 263 00:15:58,140 --> 00:16:01,396 Maybe if I didn't, he wouldn't have... 264 00:16:01,420 --> 00:16:05,806 Hey. It's not your fault. It's not. 265 00:16:05,830 --> 00:16:07,130 Yeah... 266 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,446 Nothing made him happier than mornings his dad 267 00:16:09,470 --> 00:16:13,140 woke him up to play hooky. Nothing. 268 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,750 I bet. Good night. 269 00:16:18,180 --> 00:16:20,120 Have you seen anything else? 270 00:16:22,260 --> 00:16:24,606 - Not yet. - How, how long did it 271 00:16:24,630 --> 00:16:28,476 take the last time? That girl you found in 2007. 272 00:16:28,500 --> 00:16:30,016 Amelia price. 273 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,026 How long until you saw the thing 274 00:16:32,050 --> 00:16:33,796 that led the police to her? 275 00:16:33,820 --> 00:16:35,996 I couldn't piece it together. 276 00:16:36,020 --> 00:16:38,320 I just saw fleeting images. 277 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:45,916 I kept... I kept seeing this row of little jars 278 00:16:45,940 --> 00:16:48,216 with peeling labels on a windowsill. 279 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,256 Then I could see past the grimy windowpane, 280 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,936 out to a water tower with faded lettering. 281 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,206 I-t-e space s-t. 282 00:16:58,230 --> 00:16:59,906 Then someone found a manufacturer 283 00:16:59,930 --> 00:17:01,376 named granite state steel, 284 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:06,410 and next to one of their, water towers was... 285 00:17:07,180 --> 00:17:08,826 A trailer park. 286 00:17:08,850 --> 00:17:11,036 They knocked on doors, 287 00:17:11,060 --> 00:17:14,260 the guy ran, and they found Amelia. 288 00:17:15,730 --> 00:17:19,170 Her family sends me Christmas cards every year. 289 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,280 It's been 17 years since you've seen a missing child? 290 00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:30,600 Yes. 291 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,746 - Good night. - Good night. 292 00:17:35,770 --> 00:17:37,410 That's it? A blue sedan? 293 00:17:37,910 --> 00:17:40,796 - From the '90s, right? - It could be the early aughts. 294 00:17:40,820 --> 00:17:43,766 Definitely an older model. With a pull-down armrest 295 00:17:43,790 --> 00:17:47,336 in the backseat. Rory was using to draw on it. 296 00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:49,376 And, and there was a burger wrapper in the cup holder. 297 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,540 - Didn't you say that? - Yeah. 298 00:17:53,810 --> 00:17:55,456 Are, are you gonna write it down? 299 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,396 Okay. I'll write it down, 300 00:17:57,420 --> 00:17:59,896 along with your other tips. Yeah. 301 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:01,936 An older woman with a southern accent, 302 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,406 a backyard with a tire swing, 303 00:18:03,430 --> 00:18:06,070 and the sounds of Jack-hammering from a construction site. 304 00:18:06,900 --> 00:18:09,946 You didn't also happen to see like a license plate? 305 00:18:09,970 --> 00:18:12,910 Or a street sign? Or a state flag? 306 00:18:14,020 --> 00:18:17,436 Lorraine has seen things that can't otherwise be explained. 307 00:18:17,460 --> 00:18:19,166 She knew Rory had that purple car 308 00:18:19,190 --> 00:18:21,706 - the day he disappeared. - It's not much to go on. 309 00:18:21,730 --> 00:18:23,716 Yeah, but it's something. 310 00:18:23,740 --> 00:18:25,786 I didn't peg you as much of a believer, Ms. Conley. 311 00:18:25,810 --> 00:18:28,456 Well, at least it's better than the nothing your office 312 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,126 has to show for the past year. 313 00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:31,526 Okay. Just because we don't have answers, 314 00:18:31,550 --> 00:18:33,120 doesn't mean we're not still looking. 315 00:18:33,490 --> 00:18:36,706 We're tracking half a dozen child-abduction cases. 316 00:18:36,730 --> 00:18:37,806 Three in particular. 317 00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:40,006 If we solve one of those, it could lead us to him. 318 00:18:40,030 --> 00:18:42,686 So, I apologize 319 00:18:42,710 --> 00:18:45,186 if I'm not keen on wasting our resources 320 00:18:45,210 --> 00:18:46,626 tracking down a palm reader's tip. 321 00:18:46,650 --> 00:18:48,396 She found that girl, Amelia price. 322 00:18:48,420 --> 00:18:50,166 A broken clock's right twice a day. 323 00:18:50,190 --> 00:18:52,066 But it's not just random guesses, 324 00:18:52,090 --> 00:18:53,466 I gave concrete details. 325 00:18:53,490 --> 00:18:55,946 Yeah, that's great, fine, great, 326 00:18:55,970 --> 00:18:57,576 but you're not exactly one for one, 327 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,086 are you, Ms. Howell? 328 00:18:59,110 --> 00:19:01,356 I looked you up on the ncic database 329 00:19:01,380 --> 00:19:02,926 and there were six cases, six I could find, 330 00:19:02,950 --> 00:19:05,226 I'm sure there were more where you offered information. 331 00:19:05,250 --> 00:19:07,366 For someone who can't force a vision, 332 00:19:07,390 --> 00:19:09,136 you've got a lot to say. 333 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,976 And not enough of a track record to back it up. 334 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,176 I wonder if you're more worried about your track record 335 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,016 than mine. Those are a lot of case files. 336 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,286 Maybe you've bitten off too much? 337 00:19:18,310 --> 00:19:20,296 A man your age has to be looking at the clock, 338 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,166 hoping for that promotion to captain. 339 00:19:22,190 --> 00:19:24,966 Maybe it's easier to brush these pesky, 340 00:19:24,990 --> 00:19:28,460 unsolvable cases out of sight. 341 00:19:30,300 --> 00:19:31,770 I think we're done here. 342 00:19:35,950 --> 00:19:41,360 - Do yourself a favor? - Start ironing your shirts. 343 00:19:44,530 --> 00:19:46,546 You're so right, I mean, look at his case load. 344 00:19:46,570 --> 00:19:48,316 He can't afford to have someone else show him up. 345 00:19:48,340 --> 00:19:50,346 There were other cases? 346 00:19:50,370 --> 00:19:52,356 - Sorry? - You said the last case 347 00:19:52,380 --> 00:19:54,656 you took was the Nevada girl. But there were others. 348 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,836 Yeah six. Six, since Amelia price. 349 00:19:58,860 --> 00:20:02,770 - Why didn't you tell us? - In some cases, my... 350 00:20:03,230 --> 00:20:05,216 Connection was severed. 351 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,810 So you lied. 352 00:20:08,980 --> 00:20:11,026 Yes, I lied. 353 00:20:11,050 --> 00:20:12,496 Did you really want to know 354 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,536 that I stopped being able to see 355 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,536 four of the six children, 356 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,476 and that they were later found dead? 357 00:20:18,500 --> 00:20:22,616 Did you really want to know how often this doesn't work out? 358 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,826 I'm sorry, but I was protecting you. 359 00:20:25,850 --> 00:20:27,620 Rory is alive. 360 00:20:28,050 --> 00:20:29,896 That much I know. 361 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,030 Just like I knew about Amelia. 362 00:20:40,410 --> 00:20:43,326 The day we found Amelia price was a great day. 363 00:20:43,350 --> 00:20:46,226 A great day. I was on Dan rather, 364 00:20:46,250 --> 00:20:48,596 and I remember, he called me a hero, and I said, 365 00:20:48,620 --> 00:20:51,106 look, the world had given up. 366 00:20:51,130 --> 00:20:54,000 But not me. Not the family. 367 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,246 And not Lorraine. 368 00:20:56,270 --> 00:20:58,486 We had no leads, you know. 369 00:20:58,510 --> 00:21:00,356 Most of the team had been reassigned. 370 00:21:00,380 --> 00:21:02,296 It was just me and the tip desk. 371 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,696 Lorraine was a godsend. 372 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,276 Deserved every bit of that reward. 373 00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:10,246 And how much of the reward did you receive 374 00:21:10,270 --> 00:21:11,776 - for solving the case? - None. 375 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,216 And how were your financial circumstances at the time? 376 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,586 I was doing all right. 377 00:21:15,610 --> 00:21:17,396 I picked the steelers over the seahawks 378 00:21:17,420 --> 00:21:20,126 - in the super bowl, so... - So you weren't experiencing 379 00:21:20,150 --> 00:21:22,806 any financial hardship in 2006, correct? 380 00:21:22,830 --> 00:21:24,776 - Not particularly. - Your honor, 381 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,370 I'd like to offer into evidence the following document. 382 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,410 Detective, do you recognize what this is? 383 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,706 Yeah, it's a letter from the court from march 2006. 384 00:21:38,730 --> 00:21:40,936 You're eight months behind on your child support. 385 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,546 - Well yeah, but... - explain the highlighted 386 00:21:43,570 --> 00:21:46,116 portion on the list of assets from your divorce settlement? 387 00:21:46,140 --> 00:21:49,356 This has nothing to do with it. 388 00:21:49,380 --> 00:21:51,496 I'd just bought a new Ford f-150. 389 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,666 I was paying it off. Look, I saved up, 390 00:21:53,690 --> 00:21:56,936 I got a promotion. I could pull in more overtime 391 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,946 once the price case was off my desk, all right? 392 00:21:58,970 --> 00:22:01,746 You said you were the only one monitoring the tip line, 393 00:22:01,770 --> 00:22:04,656 and had a tip come in, you would have received 394 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,896 none of the reward money, correct? 395 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:08,966 That's what I said. 396 00:22:08,990 --> 00:22:12,036 So, just at time that you were short on funds, 397 00:22:12,060 --> 00:22:16,146 an outside party who claimed to have a supernatural gift, 398 00:22:16,170 --> 00:22:18,176 happened to offer up information 399 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,646 that would reinforce her claim 400 00:22:19,670 --> 00:22:21,416 - and secure her the reward money? - Hold on... 401 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,126 Wouldn't you both have benefited 402 00:22:23,150 --> 00:22:24,396 from splitting the reward money? 403 00:22:24,420 --> 00:22:26,366 That's not at all what happened, all right? 404 00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:29,206 I did my job, I brought Amelia home, 405 00:22:29,230 --> 00:22:31,106 and I'm not the one on trial here. 406 00:22:31,130 --> 00:22:32,700 No further questions, your honor. 407 00:22:37,140 --> 00:22:41,256 I... I-I can't get my statements. 408 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,596 The bank's records don't go back that far. 409 00:22:43,620 --> 00:22:46,506 But I used the reward to pay off my credit card debt. 410 00:22:46,530 --> 00:22:48,476 - I didn't know that man before. - Okay. Okay. 411 00:22:48,500 --> 00:22:52,870 I didn't speak to him after. You have to trust me. 412 00:23:04,530 --> 00:23:06,706 Detective serrano, you have stated 413 00:23:06,730 --> 00:23:10,046 that the defendant fed the conleys false hope, 414 00:23:10,070 --> 00:23:11,986 that her so-called visions had nothing to do 415 00:23:12,010 --> 00:23:13,826 with the disappearance of Rory conley. 416 00:23:13,850 --> 00:23:16,696 - Can you state that conclusively? - Yes, I can. 417 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,520 And how do you know that for a fact? 418 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,376 Frank? 419 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,816 Maybe it's better if we sit. 420 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,716 - No, I don't want to sit down. - Ms. Conley 421 00:23:26,740 --> 00:23:28,626 just say it. 422 00:23:28,650 --> 00:23:30,010 I have some news. 423 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:31,890 It's not good news, 424 00:23:32,220 --> 00:23:33,536 but maybe, I hope, it'll bring you 425 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,090 some amount of peace. 426 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,500 Last night, we charged a man with the murder of your son. 427 00:23:42,670 --> 00:23:43,940 No. 428 00:23:44,410 --> 00:23:46,286 How do... how do you know? 429 00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:47,426 He confessed. 430 00:23:47,450 --> 00:23:50,150 No! 431 00:23:57,340 --> 00:23:59,946 Four days ago, a retired contractor 432 00:23:59,970 --> 00:24:02,626 named Matthew Lee Boyd was stopped at a d.U.I. 433 00:24:02,650 --> 00:24:04,696 Checkpoint in Virginia. 434 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,226 His fingerprints matched those 435 00:24:06,250 --> 00:24:09,536 of a case of a missing Pittsburgh boy, Noah Jackson. 436 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,236 In the trunk of his car, we found children's toys 437 00:24:12,260 --> 00:24:13,506 and zip ties. 438 00:24:13,530 --> 00:24:15,616 Now, while under interrogation, 439 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,056 he admitted to two more murders. 440 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,726 One boy had gone missing in Richmond, that's Caden greer, 441 00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:25,730 and the second was... was Rory. 442 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,646 Did he... Did he tell you where he took Rory? 443 00:24:32,670 --> 00:24:35,786 Well, he was on a bender, so he doesn't remember much, 444 00:24:35,810 --> 00:24:38,566 but he is cooperating. It'll take some time 445 00:24:38,590 --> 00:24:41,036 to track down the bodies. But for now, 446 00:24:41,060 --> 00:24:43,766 we have his license plate charged with a highway toll 447 00:24:43,790 --> 00:24:46,576 on i-85 around the time that Rory disappeared. 448 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,816 - Are you sure that's... - no! You don't talk! 449 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,240 You don't say one single damn thing. 450 00:25:01,860 --> 00:25:04,816 What are you doing? Why aren't you packing? 451 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,180 Do you need some help? Here, I'll help you. 452 00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:11,526 - Melissa, hey, whoa... - I told you to get out. 453 00:25:11,550 --> 00:25:13,326 What is wrong with you? Why won't you go? 454 00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:15,120 The police have it wrong. 455 00:25:20,940 --> 00:25:23,546 - The police have it wrong. - How do you know? 456 00:25:23,570 --> 00:25:25,556 Frank, please don't keep falling for it. 457 00:25:25,580 --> 00:25:27,656 How can they say anything conclusively 458 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,496 - if there's no physical evidence? - Evidence? 459 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,336 You read tea leaves! 460 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:34,660 Don't talk to us about evidence! 461 00:25:35,570 --> 00:25:37,646 I swear, I can still feel him. 462 00:25:37,670 --> 00:25:39,646 Yeah, and so can I. 463 00:25:39,670 --> 00:25:43,586 But he was my son, and I knew him and you didn't. 464 00:25:43,610 --> 00:25:46,596 And you watched this news clip and hallucinated a boy 465 00:25:46,620 --> 00:25:49,536 that was already dead, you leech! 466 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,830 Just get her out of here. 467 00:26:14,380 --> 00:26:16,050 Wait, Lorraine. 468 00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:19,726 Maybe I'm stupid for still believing you. 469 00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:21,236 Maybe it's just wishful thinking. 470 00:26:21,260 --> 00:26:22,960 But I don't want you to go. 471 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,840 ' Cause once you go, it's over. I'm never finding him. 472 00:26:31,940 --> 00:26:33,686 So frank kept her around. 473 00:26:33,710 --> 00:26:35,726 And that's when all hell broke loose. 474 00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:38,536 Inside, a man is being charged for three murders, 475 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,676 but there are only two bodies. 476 00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:43,846 I feel for the parents of Noah Jackson and Caden greer, 477 00:26:43,870 --> 00:26:46,046 who are experiencing the unimaginable, 478 00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:49,056 but at least they know what happened to their child. 479 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,756 I don't. Matthew Lee Boyd has not been able 480 00:26:51,780 --> 00:26:54,796 to point to Rory's body. He doesn't know. 481 00:26:54,820 --> 00:26:57,876 - The true crime podcasts. - The social media sleuths. 482 00:26:57,900 --> 00:27:00,916 Someone found cctv footage of a blue '98 sedan 483 00:27:00,940 --> 00:27:02,846 near the convention center that day, 484 00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:04,686 so that meant Lorraine must be right. 485 00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:06,426 Right now, I'm focused on convicting 486 00:27:06,450 --> 00:27:09,096 a confessed criminal, okay? So please, out of my way. 487 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:11,066 I understand why detective serrano 488 00:27:11,090 --> 00:27:12,636 wants this case closed, but he hasn't 489 00:27:12,660 --> 00:27:14,336 produced sufficient proof. 490 00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:15,876 You don't always get the physical evidence, 491 00:27:15,900 --> 00:27:17,616 but I'm pretty damn close. 492 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,586 If the police are asking me to abandon hope 493 00:27:19,610 --> 00:27:23,386 that my son is alive, I need certainty. 494 00:27:23,410 --> 00:27:25,496 Not "pretty damn close." 495 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,496 You can't blame a grieving father. 496 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,306 He wanted to keep his boy alive. 497 00:27:29,330 --> 00:27:30,806 But what did she want? 498 00:27:30,830 --> 00:27:32,776 Why couldn't she let it go? 499 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,670 Maybe she needed to keep her resume clean for next time. 500 00:27:41,220 --> 00:27:42,726 Can I come in? 501 00:27:42,750 --> 00:27:44,960 Yes. Of course. 502 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,870 I found this place on our credit card statements. 503 00:27:53,710 --> 00:27:55,356 Sixty bucks a night? 504 00:27:55,380 --> 00:27:56,556 That's highway robbery. 505 00:27:56,580 --> 00:27:57,826 Well, frank said he wanted to 506 00:27:57,850 --> 00:27:59,626 frank doesn't have it in him to tell you no. 507 00:27:59,650 --> 00:28:01,420 Same as with Rory. 508 00:28:02,590 --> 00:28:04,560 He lets you take advantage of him. 509 00:28:05,060 --> 00:28:08,340 Rory couldn't take advantage of you, could he? 510 00:28:08,670 --> 00:28:11,386 No. I was the strict one. 511 00:28:11,410 --> 00:28:12,756 Someone had to be. 512 00:28:12,780 --> 00:28:14,256 Yeah. 513 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,426 Otherwise, he'd be up till midnight every night 514 00:28:16,450 --> 00:28:17,920 eating Froot Loops. 515 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,806 And you thought, when he was older, 516 00:28:20,830 --> 00:28:22,430 he would understand. 517 00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:25,786 I figured he'd have self-control, 518 00:28:25,810 --> 00:28:28,710 and teeth with no cavities, and he'd thank me. 519 00:28:29,580 --> 00:28:31,150 But now he's gone. 520 00:28:33,090 --> 00:28:36,560 And he knew me as the lady who only said no. 521 00:28:37,260 --> 00:28:39,046 - I'm sure he didn't... - the district attorney 522 00:28:39,070 --> 00:28:40,876 reached out to me. They want to prosecute you 523 00:28:40,900 --> 00:28:43,346 for exploiting our situation and standing in the way 524 00:28:43,370 --> 00:28:44,580 of an investigation. 525 00:28:45,180 --> 00:28:47,596 These things carry prison time. 526 00:28:47,620 --> 00:28:49,320 Forfeiture of assets. 527 00:28:52,860 --> 00:28:55,306 Wh... why are you telling me this? 528 00:28:55,330 --> 00:28:57,546 They won't have a case without my testimony. 529 00:28:57,570 --> 00:29:00,110 So I won't cooperate. 530 00:29:00,510 --> 00:29:02,010 On one condition. 531 00:29:02,910 --> 00:29:05,120 Tell frank you got it wrong. 532 00:29:05,990 --> 00:29:08,060 Tell him Rory's gone. 533 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,066 - Melissa... - as long as you keep 534 00:29:10,090 --> 00:29:12,006 his hope alive, the wound will never heal. 535 00:29:12,030 --> 00:29:15,246 And-and we have to move on. 536 00:29:15,270 --> 00:29:19,126 And it is not too late, and we could start over, and... 537 00:29:19,150 --> 00:29:20,350 Please. 538 00:29:21,050 --> 00:29:22,050 Please? 539 00:29:22,690 --> 00:29:24,820 I've already lost my son. 540 00:29:25,460 --> 00:29:27,390 I can't lose my husband, too. 541 00:29:30,030 --> 00:29:33,840 I didn't ask for this. I saw something. 542 00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:37,086 You said it had enough truth to it that I should 543 00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:40,496 uproot my life. And yes, I didn't leave much behind. 544 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,766 And yes, I accepted your money, 545 00:29:42,790 --> 00:29:45,976 but that doesn't mean I am a fraud. 546 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,500 Please, just tell me how much. Please. 547 00:29:51,710 --> 00:29:53,810 Look at where I am. 548 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,496 If I could be bought, don't you think 549 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,506 I would have been bought? If, if I were a fraud, 550 00:30:00,530 --> 00:30:01,876 I would cut my losses 551 00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:03,776 and take the get-out-of-jail-free card. 552 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,616 If, if I were a fraud, 553 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,186 I would be able to sleep at night 554 00:30:07,210 --> 00:30:10,056 without seeing a missing child I never knew. 555 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:15,036 Do you have any idea what this gift has cost me? 556 00:30:15,060 --> 00:30:17,806 A marriage. A family. 557 00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:20,206 Everyone wants me to see something! 558 00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:22,686 But if I can't, or if I do, but it's not the right thing, 559 00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:26,456 then I am a con artist and a liar! 560 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,866 I don't see lottery numbers! 561 00:30:29,890 --> 00:30:31,890 I see pain. 562 00:30:32,730 --> 00:30:34,530 I 563 00:30:35,770 --> 00:30:38,200 I turn toward it... 564 00:30:39,270 --> 00:30:42,110 'Cause I am the only one who can. 565 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,946 Why didn't Matthew Lee Boyd's case go to trial? 566 00:30:56,970 --> 00:30:59,256 He took a plea. Three life sentences. 567 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,096 - Was that your recommendation? - Absolutely not. 568 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,706 I said forget the death penalty, I'll strangle him myself. 569 00:31:05,730 --> 00:31:07,106 But when it came down to it, 570 00:31:07,130 --> 00:31:08,606 I could for ego the punishment 571 00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:10,846 to save the families from sitting through a trial. 572 00:31:10,870 --> 00:31:12,616 So other words, he was so guilty 573 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,946 beyond all reasonable doubt, 574 00:31:13,970 --> 00:31:15,926 a trial would only serve to prolong 575 00:31:15,950 --> 00:31:18,096 - the victims' families' pain? - Correct. 576 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,366 Your honor, I would like to offer the following video 577 00:31:20,390 --> 00:31:21,466 into evidence. 578 00:31:21,490 --> 00:31:24,100 Detective, what do you recognize this video to be? 579 00:31:24,460 --> 00:31:27,600 That is my interrogation of Matthew Lee Boyd. 580 00:31:29,340 --> 00:31:31,156 There's another one, isn't there? 581 00:31:31,180 --> 00:31:34,520 - There was a third. - A third kid? A boy? 582 00:31:35,450 --> 00:31:37,366 - A boy, yeah. - Where? 583 00:31:37,390 --> 00:31:39,736 - I don't remember. - Yeah, you do. 584 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,906 What do you remember? Are they gonna kill me? 585 00:31:42,930 --> 00:31:45,746 Maybe. These are capital crimes. 586 00:31:45,770 --> 00:31:47,016 But if you cooperate, 587 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,856 we may not pursue the death penalty. 588 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,496 Where was the third boy? 589 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,726 Near the water. Big crowd. 590 00:31:52,750 --> 00:31:55,060 A convention? 591 00:31:57,030 --> 00:31:59,330 Yeah. A convention. 592 00:32:01,170 --> 00:32:03,246 So Boyd had no lawyer during a confession 593 00:32:03,270 --> 00:32:05,056 that led to a guilty plea, 594 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,826 and no trial during which that confession 595 00:32:06,850 --> 00:32:08,226 could be properly examined? 596 00:32:08,250 --> 00:32:09,496 He waived his right to a lawyer. 597 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,236 If he pointed you to the other two bodies 598 00:32:11,260 --> 00:32:13,306 within hours, why not make the location of the third body 599 00:32:13,330 --> 00:32:14,906 a condition of the plea agreement? 600 00:32:14,930 --> 00:32:16,876 - It wasn't up to me. - Did you recommend 601 00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:18,316 not pursuing the death penalty 602 00:32:18,340 --> 00:32:20,986 in order to elicit a confession for Rory conley's murder? 603 00:32:21,010 --> 00:32:23,256 Yes. That's how confessions happen. 604 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,596 Even knowing his confession 605 00:32:24,620 --> 00:32:27,690 rested upon information you yourself gave him? 606 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,886 Do you swear that the evidence you give to the court 607 00:32:38,910 --> 00:32:40,426 shall be the truth, the whole truth, 608 00:32:40,450 --> 00:32:42,826 and nothing but the truth, so help you god? 609 00:32:42,850 --> 00:32:44,520 I do. 610 00:32:47,130 --> 00:32:49,346 When did you first become aware 611 00:32:49,370 --> 00:32:53,016 you possessed such an extraordinary gift? 612 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,256 I was too young to remember 613 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,696 when my brother was shipped off to Vietnam. 614 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,936 But I remember when my family 615 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,036 got the call saying his unit 616 00:33:03,060 --> 00:33:06,376 had gone out on night patrol and never come back. 617 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,616 Four confirmed dead, two missing in action. 618 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,316 We knew what that meant. He was dead, but no bodies. 619 00:33:11,340 --> 00:33:14,750 My mother was out of her mind. 620 00:33:15,050 --> 00:33:19,436 Joe was the oldest, her golden boy. 621 00:33:19,460 --> 00:33:22,500 I didn't understand what was happening. I couldn't... 622 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,670 Console her. 623 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,616 One day, I was in Joe's room. 624 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,280 And I saw him. 625 00:33:33,650 --> 00:33:37,490 Somewhere far away, wrapped in a checkerboard quilt. 626 00:33:39,630 --> 00:33:40,946 Green and white. 627 00:33:40,970 --> 00:33:42,570 What did you make of it? 628 00:33:43,340 --> 00:33:45,216 I knew it wasn't a hallucination. 629 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,026 I tried to imagine where he was before, 630 00:33:47,050 --> 00:33:48,626 but this was different. 631 00:33:48,650 --> 00:33:50,250 I knew... 632 00:33:51,220 --> 00:33:54,830 This was happening. 633 00:33:55,130 --> 00:33:58,046 I knew he was alive. 634 00:33:58,070 --> 00:34:00,486 Did your family believe you? 635 00:34:00,510 --> 00:34:03,026 My mother didn't need any convincing. 636 00:34:03,050 --> 00:34:05,666 We'd sit... together at night 637 00:34:05,690 --> 00:34:09,936 and I'd tell her what I saw. 638 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,070 How Joe needed a haircut and 639 00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:17,686 a shower. 640 00:34:17,710 --> 00:34:20,056 And then you got the call. 641 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,490 Yes. They had negotiated his release... 642 00:34:24,420 --> 00:34:29,060 From a prison camp, and he was alive and coming home. 643 00:34:31,070 --> 00:34:32,300 It... 644 00:34:33,540 --> 00:34:37,780 And it was, it was like our lives were starting up again. 645 00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:43,336 The day after he came back, he said that the one thing 646 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,500 that kept him going was playing chess. 647 00:34:49,370 --> 00:34:51,540 And it turned out that... 648 00:34:52,110 --> 00:34:56,550 That chessboard was green and white. 649 00:34:58,260 --> 00:35:00,306 We have some clippings from the local paper 650 00:35:00,330 --> 00:35:01,830 to offer into evidence. 651 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,866 So, if you are a fraud, is it fair to say 652 00:35:15,890 --> 00:35:18,760 you began your grift quite early? 653 00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:21,470 And for no money at all? 654 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,626 Ms. Howell, did it feel good, 655 00:35:28,650 --> 00:35:31,196 seeing how grateful the conleys were? 656 00:35:31,220 --> 00:35:32,766 How much your information meant to them? 657 00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:35,806 I was happy to be able to provide that hope. 658 00:35:35,830 --> 00:35:38,046 Just as I'm sure you were happy to provide 659 00:35:38,070 --> 00:35:39,946 - hope that to your own mother? - Yes. 660 00:35:39,970 --> 00:35:42,686 Now you said that your brother was the golden child. 661 00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:43,786 What did that make you? 662 00:35:43,810 --> 00:35:46,696 I was shy. Quiet. The youngest of five. 663 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:50,636 My mother was sure I would ruin my eyesight 664 00:35:50,660 --> 00:35:52,106 with how much time I spent reading. 665 00:35:52,130 --> 00:35:54,646 But she was much more focused on my brothers. 666 00:35:54,670 --> 00:35:56,616 And when you were the only one that knew your brother 667 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,916 was alive, did it bring you together? 668 00:35:58,940 --> 00:36:01,396 Yes. We leaned on each other. 669 00:36:01,420 --> 00:36:05,636 Gosh, that feeling, that feeling of being a hero, 670 00:36:05,660 --> 00:36:09,460 being important... Must have been intoxicating? 671 00:36:10,830 --> 00:36:13,086 I suppose. I was very young. 672 00:36:13,110 --> 00:36:14,716 Well, fast-forward to now. 673 00:36:14,740 --> 00:36:17,726 You've had some very high-profile successes, 674 00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:19,296 some quiet failures. 675 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,966 Tell me, why do you keep going back to it? 676 00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:25,360 Because I... I. 677 00:36:26,330 --> 00:36:29,216 - I have to. - You "have to". 678 00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:31,386 You have to what? Make up for your first, 679 00:36:31,410 --> 00:36:33,050 greatest failure? 680 00:36:33,980 --> 00:36:36,250 Please tell us about the passing of your brother. 681 00:36:39,260 --> 00:36:41,776 Four years after he came home, 682 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,846 he was killed in a head-on collision with a drunk driver 683 00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:47,786 on route 108. He was on his way to pick me up from school. 684 00:36:47,810 --> 00:36:49,686 And when you failed to foresee the accident, 685 00:36:49,710 --> 00:36:52,356 did you blame yourself? He was on... 686 00:36:52,380 --> 00:36:54,566 He was on his way to pick me up, how could I not? 687 00:36:54,590 --> 00:36:59,276 But I, I never claimed to be able to see the future. 688 00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:00,676 I wish I could. 689 00:37:00,700 --> 00:37:02,746 But your mother believed wholeheartedly in your gift, 690 00:37:02,770 --> 00:37:05,926 didn't she? And did that belief lead her to place 691 00:37:05,950 --> 00:37:08,226 all the responsibility for keeping your brother safe 692 00:37:08,250 --> 00:37:10,920 - onto you? - She didn't blame me, no. 693 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,836 But she never quite trusted me again. 694 00:37:14,860 --> 00:37:16,376 And what about the rest of your family, 695 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,440 would you consider yourselves estranged? 696 00:37:19,970 --> 00:37:21,056 No. 697 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,880 When was the last time you saw them? 698 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,726 2002 at my mother's funeral. 699 00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:28,436 Is that why you seek out new families? 700 00:37:28,460 --> 00:37:31,406 Desperate, broken ones like the conleys, 701 00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:33,670 who welcomed you with open arms? 702 00:37:37,070 --> 00:37:39,686 I just wanna help. 703 00:37:39,710 --> 00:37:40,796 Maybe. 704 00:37:40,820 --> 00:37:42,996 Maybe by offering them what you couldn't provide 705 00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:45,436 for your own family gives you meaning in your life? 706 00:37:45,460 --> 00:37:47,336 If I did it only for myself, 707 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,116 I'd have learned by now to stay far, far away. 708 00:37:51,140 --> 00:37:54,286 And yet you've spent your life seeking to be indispensable 709 00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:56,256 to people in pain, haven't you? 710 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,456 Would you say, Ms. Howell, that the trouble 711 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,766 with an unpredictable gift, felt only by the one 712 00:38:00,790 --> 00:38:03,906 who possesses it, is that it bears a striking resemblance 713 00:38:03,930 --> 00:38:05,960 to somebody just making guesses? 714 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,040 But I'm not just making guesses. 715 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,986 I'm, I'm not lying. 716 00:38:14,010 --> 00:38:16,796 But how can you be sure you're telling the truth? 717 00:38:16,820 --> 00:38:20,266 I mean, after all, isn't a truly successful fraudster's 718 00:38:20,290 --> 00:38:22,430 first victim herself? 719 00:38:24,540 --> 00:38:26,440 No further questions your honor. 720 00:38:28,910 --> 00:38:30,726 In a trial for fraud, the state is required 721 00:38:30,750 --> 00:38:33,426 to prove three things beyond a reasonable doubt. 722 00:38:33,450 --> 00:38:37,906 That the defendant knowingly misrepresented facts. 723 00:38:37,930 --> 00:38:41,416 Two, the defendant had an intent to deceive 724 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,186 and succeeded in that deceit. 725 00:38:43,210 --> 00:38:47,456 And three, the deception was done for financial benefit. 726 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,026 It's not a question of whether the defendant 727 00:38:49,050 --> 00:38:51,566 was right or wrong. That much we may never know. 728 00:38:51,590 --> 00:38:53,706 It's not a question of whether she profited financially 729 00:38:53,730 --> 00:38:56,606 when all is said and done. It doesn't even matter 730 00:38:56,630 --> 00:38:59,316 whether you believe she's entirely delusional. 731 00:38:59,340 --> 00:39:01,286 What it comes down to is this: 732 00:39:01,310 --> 00:39:03,556 Did Lorraine ho well 733 00:39:03,580 --> 00:39:06,190 believe what she was telling the conleys? 734 00:39:06,820 --> 00:39:10,166 The girl who kept her family's hope alive, 735 00:39:10,190 --> 00:39:13,446 the woman who knowingly exposes herself 736 00:39:13,470 --> 00:39:15,576 to some of the worst pain in the world... 737 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,550 Does that woman have faith in her own gift? 738 00:39:46,130 --> 00:39:47,840 I don't want the money back. 739 00:39:49,970 --> 00:39:52,586 I don't want her to go to jail. I didn't do it to punish her, 740 00:39:52,610 --> 00:39:54,386 I did it to convince you. 741 00:39:54,410 --> 00:39:56,266 Maybe seeing it all laid out, in court 742 00:39:56,290 --> 00:39:58,266 you saw the same tape I saw. 743 00:39:58,290 --> 00:39:59,890 - It wasn't a real confession... - Stop. 744 00:40:03,670 --> 00:40:05,916 I can't keep going around and around. 745 00:40:05,940 --> 00:40:09,040 There will always be reasons to doubt. 746 00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:14,690 What kind of father would I be if I gave up? 747 00:40:18,060 --> 00:40:20,530 You were a wonderful father. 748 00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:24,210 And you could be, again. 749 00:40:27,850 --> 00:40:30,590 But I'm tired of hoping, frank. 750 00:40:32,260 --> 00:40:34,490 I can't do it anymore. 751 00:40:37,470 --> 00:40:39,486 Has the jury reached a verdict? 752 00:40:39,510 --> 00:40:41,486 We have, your honor. 753 00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:44,626 We the jury, in the case of the state of north Carolina 754 00:40:44,650 --> 00:40:48,920 versus Lorraine ho well, find the defendant not guilty. 755 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,306 Jurors, thank you for your service. 756 00:40:54,330 --> 00:40:56,416 This court is adjourned. 757 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,010 All rise. 758 00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:08,606 - Congratulations. - Thank you. 759 00:41:08,630 --> 00:41:10,500 Lorraine. Lorraine. 760 00:41:13,570 --> 00:41:15,656 You'll call me, right? 761 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,196 Even if you think something's too small, I wanna, 762 00:41:18,220 --> 00:41:19,596 I wanna hear it. 763 00:41:19,620 --> 00:41:24,600 Yeah. Yeah, this isn't over. It isn't over. 764 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,710 Thank you. 765 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,196 I figured since you weren't calling me back, 766 00:41:51,220 --> 00:41:53,866 you probably didn't want me sitting in the back of the court 767 00:41:53,890 --> 00:41:57,130 for the trial. But I wanted to be here when it was over. 768 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,240 It's good... It's good to see you, ray. 769 00:42:12,790 --> 00:42:15,200 You ready to go home? 770 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,670 Car's fixed. 771 00:42:22,580 --> 00:42:24,850 More or less. 772 00:42:39,140 --> 00:42:40,186 You did all you could. 773 00:42:40,210 --> 00:42:42,820 What else was there to do but tell the truth? 774 00:43:02,290 --> 00:43:03,860 You okay? 775 00:43:54,490 --> 00:43:57,000 Difuze 58190

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