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You all right?
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Are you all right?
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I'm a bit nervous.
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Good job it's not you giving
evidence today, then. I know.
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Look...
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...I'm sorry.
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Just...
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...tell the truth.
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Simple as that?
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She's the one that's on trial here.
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You can do this.
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I've got no choice, have I?
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Was that the door?
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Are you ready to go?
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I'm not so sure.
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You can't hide away forever.
I'm not hiding.
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Good. Neither am I.
You've done nothing wrong.
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I know.
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But why antagonise people? How is
a pub lunch antagonising anyone?
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I'm saying... maybe...
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...maybe if we keep our heads
down a bit longer,
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give it a chance to blow over.
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I don't want Jess upset.
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She'll be more upset if we
don't go. You promised her.
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What if someone says something?
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I was thinking...
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...maybe we should tell her.
Scare her to death? She's six.
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For her safety, Craig.
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It's not fair. No, I know.
It's not fair on anyone.
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But you know I'm right.
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I'm always right, aren't I?
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We're family.
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We deal with things together
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and six is old enough to know
the truth is always best.
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Yeah?
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Yeah?
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Give me a kiss.
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All right?
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What happened to your head, mate?
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But why are people saying you did
a nasty thing if it isn't true?
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Well, that's what happens when
someone starts a rumour, isn't it?
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It sort of just spreads.
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There's nothing to worry about,
sweetheart. I'm...
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You just have to tell us
if someone says anything to you
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or makes you feel worried, OK?
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It's the bandage.
They're looking at the bandage.
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Millie and Lauren aren't allowed
to come to my birthday.
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But they're your best friends,
aren't they?
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They say you're a baddie.
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I need your help, Mo.
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The police are saying it's not him.
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I need proof that Craig Myers
is Eddie J Turner.
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And there was me thinking you
wanted to meet to apologise.
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Look, I wanted to tell you,
but you'd have been incriminated.
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You don't think I'm incriminated?
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I never signed up for this, Anna.
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Not violence.
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Did you have him attacked?
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No.
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But you know who did it?
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No.
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DI Grover?
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Is she ready for me?
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Erm, she is me and, yes, I am.
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Anna Dean's phone records.
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Gosh, you're keen. Well, since we're
not being given enough time to build
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the best possible case against her,
I thought I'd do what I could
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to speed things along.
Great. Come on up.
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So, what's he like, Craig Myers?
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He's quiet. Shy.
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A bit awkward with people.
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Oh. Not the ideal witness, then.
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Do you think he's Eddie J Turner?
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I think he's quiet, shy,
a bit awkward with people.
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How would you react to being
accused of killing a child?
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From what I gather,
only a few officials
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in the Justice and Social Work
Department plus the Chief Constable
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would know where Turner is now.
This isn't about Eddie J Turner.
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It's about someone trying to
kill someone else.
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Right, but obviously I need to
familiarise myself
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with the original case.
Because you'd have been what, 12?
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14, actually,
but the point stands,
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and I found something
that might be of interest.
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What if I told you that a year
after the verdict,
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a court admin officer was asked, and
I use the term advisedly, to leave
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after Turner's name
was leaked on the internet.
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Now, at the time, they said it was
an admin error, but apparently
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it was very deliberate and common
knowledge on the circuit
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who the culprit was.
So why no prosecution?
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Insufficiency,
so I can't use it in court,
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but I did want to see
these phone records
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just in case the same name
and number crops up.
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Huh, yeah, there it is.
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Called several times
on the day of the attack.
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And what's the name?
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Maureen Buckley.
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She's a private investigator.
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Miss Buckley, could you tell
the court
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exactly what being a private
investigator involves?
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Well, I'm no Miss Marple.
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Erm, I mostly provide a tracing
service for solicitors,
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insurance companies,
credit and loan organisations.
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The odd bit of matrimonial
is about as glamorous as it gets.
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You help third parties find people.
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That's what I meant to say, yes.
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Do you know Anna Dean? Yes.
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I wrote to her...
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...after Liam's death
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to say that my heart went out
to her and, you know,
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if there's ever anything I can do.
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If there's ever anything I can do?
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Nobody should have to
bury their child.
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'I've been given over 100 names
over the years.'
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How many of those have I
passed on to you?
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One. One.
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Craig Myers is Eddie J Turner.
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And now I'm going to prove it
to everyone in court.
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You do have proof?
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I was in the process of getting it
when you decided to go global.
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I know what I'm asking, Mo,
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but this is my chance.
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For what? What will you do
with proof when you get it?
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Confront him with it in open court.
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Then he won't be able to
hide any more.
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He'll have to face up to
what he did.
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Please,
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you need to tell me
where you got his name.
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Mo.
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An ex-prison officer from
a Young Offenders', OK?
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He was trying to sell
a story on Turner
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and the interdict scared him off.
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He gave me Craig Myers and I
cross-referenced his details
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with Turner's birth date.
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Our Craig Myers uses the same
digits in a different order
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with a year taken off his age.
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And this guy has proof?
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I only spoke to him on the phone.
I didn't get a chance to meet him.
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Let's meet him now, then. I don't
think you know what you're asking.
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The police will get to me.
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Expecting me to lie to Lenny
and Lou is one thing,
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but do you know what the maximum
sentence is for perjury?
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Can the witness be shown Crown
Production Number 36, please?
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It is a matter of agreement that
this is Anna Dean's phone record
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from October last year.
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Do you see your number on there,
Miss Buckley?
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Yes.
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How many times did you and Mrs Dean
speak to each other
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between the 24th and the 31st
of October last year,
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the day Craig Myers was attacked?
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You want me to add them up?
Can you look at the record
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and confirm that there
are 24 separate calls
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over seven days,
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including eight on the 30th
and... nine on the 31st?
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I'm not the best at maths
but 24 sounds right.
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Do you remember what you talked
about on any of those occasions?
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It could have been anything.
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A wine offer in a supermarket, which
member of the Scottish rugby team
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we'd like to be in the bath with.
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You were discussing what should be
done with the information
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you had accessed for Mrs Dean,
were you not? Objection.
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I'm sure you're aware that's
a leading question, Ms Mackie.
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I'm sorry, My Lady.
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Miss Buckley...
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...has Anna Dean ever asked you
to track down
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the new identity of Eddie J Turner?
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No.
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She hasn't and she wouldn't.
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She's too good a friend.
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The attack on Craig Myers?
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Yeah, still no forensics.
The knife was clean.
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But we're talking to people
close to the Grahams
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and trawling through
supporter lists.
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OK. I wasn't looking for
an update, actually.
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I need you on the Inverkip murder.
Why?
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Because you're a senior detective
and someone's been killed.
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Yeah, but I'm in the middle of
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building a case...
Against Anna Dean. Yes.
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She did more than put
a message online.
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There's no evidence for that.
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I just told you, I'm finding it!
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DS Harvey is across everything.
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I need you to move on.
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There's a theme emerging here, eh?
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Craig Myers' advocate is a teenager,
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and you're passing
an attempted murder to... Whoa.
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DS Harvey is an extremely capable
detective. I don't doubt DS Harvey.
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Meaning? That I wonder if everyone
cares about the victim
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in this case as much as they might,
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considering the continued
speculation about his identity.
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I agreed to take you on
because it suited both of us.
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Don't make me regret that,
Steven.
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Or revoke it.
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All right?
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When did you last see your ex-wife?
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It's years, for definite, but...
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...these places do strange things
to time.
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You made numerous threats towards
Eddie J Turner through the media.
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I've been looking at some of
your previous cellmates.
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Plenty with form for violence.
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I'm sure there's lots would do you
this particular favour.
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Why aren't we at the station?
We'll talk to them all, Christian.
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Why are you on your own?
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You're out next month.
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If you've got anything to tell me,
do it now.
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Let me help you.
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You're not supposed to be here,
are you?
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Have I thought about killing
Eddie J Turner?
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Yes.
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But I've thought about
killing myself even more.
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I let Liam down.
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I wasn't there
when he needed me most
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and nothing will ever
take that away.
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So threaten me all you like -
bring back the rack
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and put my head on a spike
on Waverley Bridge, because...
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...the worst thing
that could ever happen to me?
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Already has.
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As your manager, I want you to know
you've got my full support.
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Thank you. But.
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Serious head injuries and driving
60-odd people around town
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don't sit so well together,
you know?
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The doctor signed me off, Leigh -
I can drive.
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Then there's the PR question.
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If anything did happen, God forbid,
we might be covered legally,
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but it wouldn't be the doctors
getting called negligent.
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You see?
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So...
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what we're saying is,
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come back!
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But take your time, eh?
Let things, you know...
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...heal.
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I've never let you down, Leigh,
have I?
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I need to drive.
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OK!
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Arms up.
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That's it.
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Bye-bye. Bye! Bye!
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Hiya. Are you OK?
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Yeah, fine.
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How did it go?
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Somebody put my number online.
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My e-mail, too.
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Do you think it was someone we know?
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Don't look at it.
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Don't look at any of it.
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OK, date of birth?
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31st July, 1994.
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Are you all right?
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Oh, the T shirt! Right!
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It looks great. Do they all fit?
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Thank you.
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It was my daughter's boyfriend
sent them. I just passed them on.
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Right.
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So what are we doing again?
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Blood and urine.
255
00:21:21,134 --> 00:21:22,974
Blood and urine.
256
00:21:25,614 --> 00:21:30,614
Although, you could just tell me
if you've been using...
257
00:21:31,174 --> 00:21:33,373
But then you'd have to trust me.
258
00:21:33,374 --> 00:21:35,014
I do trust you.
259
00:21:38,214 --> 00:21:39,454
Why?
260
00:21:40,854 --> 00:21:43,854
You're right. Let's do the tests.
261
00:22:13,614 --> 00:22:16,253
...fired to
such a high temperature...
262
00:22:16,254 --> 00:22:17,613
Hiya.
263
00:22:17,614 --> 00:22:20,533
...the glass powder melts,
becomes liquid,
264
00:22:20,534 --> 00:22:22,933
fuses and hardens again.
265
00:22:22,934 --> 00:22:27,973
Usually you'll find it in beautiful
sky-blue, turquoise colours.
266
00:22:27,974 --> 00:22:30,173
The thing that makes me nervous...
267
00:22:30,174 --> 00:22:31,854
OK, Daniel?
268
00:22:33,014 --> 00:22:36,094
Aye, not bad, Len, thanks.
269
00:22:38,934 --> 00:22:44,025
He had to give a statement
about the night of the attack.
270
00:22:50,414 --> 00:22:52,960
We all know it was you, son.
271
00:23:02,334 --> 00:23:05,533
If it was me,
he wouldn't be taking Anna to court.
272
00:23:05,534 --> 00:23:08,262
He wouldn't be going anywhere.
273
00:23:12,214 --> 00:23:14,213
Is she not back yet?
274
00:23:14,214 --> 00:23:16,413
No, and you'd best
get in front of your homework,
275
00:23:16,414 --> 00:23:21,233
or we'll both be for it
when she does get home. Go on.
276
00:23:22,694 --> 00:23:24,134
Do you hear me?
277
00:23:26,374 --> 00:23:29,647
Do you really think
she'll even care?
278
00:23:30,534 --> 00:23:33,133
What's the subject, Benny boy?
279
00:23:33,134 --> 00:23:34,853
Maths.
280
00:23:34,854 --> 00:23:37,853
Should me and you go and smash it,
then play some FIFA?
281
00:23:37,854 --> 00:23:40,214
Huh? Come on.
282
00:23:48,374 --> 00:23:50,933
He's great with Ben. Aye.
283
00:23:50,934 --> 00:23:53,025
Shite at maths, though.
284
00:24:02,774 --> 00:24:04,411
Did you know Liam?
285
00:24:06,014 --> 00:24:07,093
No.
286
00:24:07,094 --> 00:24:10,133
I was at the same school,
but I was older, so...
287
00:24:10,134 --> 00:24:12,680
...I only knew him by sight.
288
00:24:17,254 --> 00:24:20,709
You know your mum's amazing,
don't you?
289
00:24:21,734 --> 00:24:23,453
I mean...
290
00:24:23,454 --> 00:24:25,174
...really amazing.
291
00:24:45,134 --> 00:24:47,773
I thought they would have
given up by now.
292
00:24:47,774 --> 00:24:50,453
He tried to keep them from me
but there's too many...
293
00:24:50,454 --> 00:24:52,013
No! No, no, no, no!
294
00:24:52,014 --> 00:24:55,924
Some of those have been wiped
with dog shit!
295
00:24:57,294 --> 00:24:59,053
I'll have them looked at.
296
00:24:59,054 --> 00:25:02,173
We're still getting taxis
and takeaways sent at all hours.
297
00:25:02,174 --> 00:25:04,933
They're saying
he's a paedophile now. I know.
298
00:25:04,934 --> 00:25:07,333
So, was Liam Graham sexually abused,
or...?
299
00:25:07,334 --> 00:25:08,693
Not as far as anyone's aware,
300
00:25:08,694 --> 00:25:12,293
but it's pointless trying to apply
logic to these things.
301
00:25:12,294 --> 00:25:15,133
You said someone would
keep an eye on the house.
302
00:25:15,134 --> 00:25:17,225
No-one's contacted you?
303
00:25:19,094 --> 00:25:21,822
I'm sorry. Leave that with me.
304
00:25:22,254 --> 00:25:24,373
It feels like everything's
just stopped.
305
00:25:24,374 --> 00:25:26,933
And the worst thing is,
whoever did it is still out there.
306
00:25:26,934 --> 00:25:28,493
He could be anyone.
307
00:25:28,494 --> 00:25:30,013
Anyone!
308
00:25:30,014 --> 00:25:32,373
We can look at moving you all.
309
00:25:32,374 --> 00:25:34,534
This is our home.
310
00:25:43,894 --> 00:25:47,373
Listen, in my experience,
people who might actually kill you
311
00:25:47,374 --> 00:25:50,102
don't tell you about it first.
312
00:25:53,094 --> 00:25:55,185
You're not on your own.
313
00:26:10,134 --> 00:26:11,734
Save us cooking.
314
00:26:16,534 --> 00:26:18,773
Why don't we fight fire with fire?
315
00:26:18,774 --> 00:26:23,013
We can put proof online that you
are who we say you are, like, er,
316
00:26:23,014 --> 00:26:27,773
birth certificate, school reports,
even swimming badges. anything!
317
00:26:27,774 --> 00:26:32,573
Why the hell should we? Because
someone decided to accuse me?
318
00:26:32,574 --> 00:26:36,693
Nobody has the right to even
make us think about doing that.
319
00:26:36,694 --> 00:26:41,053
Or moving house! Yeah, I agree
with you - of course I do -
320
00:26:41,054 --> 00:26:43,773
but it's obviously not stopping,
Craig,
321
00:26:43,774 --> 00:26:45,853
and you don't seem to understand,
322
00:26:45,854 --> 00:26:48,733
it's not going to,
not unless we do something.
323
00:26:48,734 --> 00:26:53,933
Look, you are going to have to
stand up in court
324
00:26:53,934 --> 00:26:58,133
and face a room full of people
that think you're a child killer.
325
00:26:58,134 --> 00:27:00,813
Do you know what people are saying?
326
00:27:00,814 --> 00:27:03,053
They're saying,
"If it's not Myers, why doesn't he
327
00:27:03,054 --> 00:27:06,893
"join the campaign to find
the real Eddie J Turner?"
328
00:27:06,894 --> 00:27:12,804
What people? Maybe that's the only
way. Maybe WE have to find him.
329
00:27:15,734 --> 00:27:17,653
OK.
330
00:27:17,654 --> 00:27:19,253
And what if we did?
331
00:27:19,254 --> 00:27:21,773
Are you serious? What then, Bex?
332
00:27:21,774 --> 00:27:24,773
Put his face online
to get US off the hook?
333
00:27:24,774 --> 00:27:28,047
Yeah!
Yeah, at least he'd deserve it.
334
00:27:28,894 --> 00:27:31,531
Do you actually believe that?
335
00:27:33,134 --> 00:27:34,494
Don't you?
336
00:27:56,454 --> 00:27:59,333
Why isn't anyone looking
after the Myers'?
337
00:27:59,334 --> 00:28:01,893
They're being persecuted
in their own home.
338
00:28:01,894 --> 00:28:04,333
I'll send a special constable.
That's not good enough.
339
00:28:04,334 --> 00:28:06,773
They need to know that
this is being taken seriously.
340
00:28:06,774 --> 00:28:10,253
It is. Is it? You haven't even
interviewed Anna Dean's ex-husband.
341
00:28:10,254 --> 00:28:12,853
Christian Graham's in prison. So?
342
00:28:12,854 --> 00:28:18,093
So... he's a former high street
accountant, not El Chapo.
343
00:28:18,094 --> 00:28:21,053
Doesn't mean he didn't help
organise the attack.
344
00:28:21,054 --> 00:28:23,413
I can't ask Tait
if I can bring in a suspect
345
00:28:23,414 --> 00:28:27,505
that was locked up
at the time of the offence.
346
00:28:31,734 --> 00:28:33,813
So what exactly ARE you doing?
347
00:28:33,814 --> 00:28:36,773
Or have you just been told to
let this one slide?
348
00:28:36,774 --> 00:28:38,813
The only thing
I've been told not to do
349
00:28:38,814 --> 00:28:41,853
is to talk to you
about the investigation.
350
00:28:41,854 --> 00:28:45,173
But I'm trying to use
my discretion here.
351
00:28:45,174 --> 00:28:48,733
Look, we all understand
why you might feel an affinity
352
00:28:48,734 --> 00:28:52,453
with Craig Myers,
but there's no conspiracy.
353
00:28:52,454 --> 00:28:55,364
Just remember who the victim is.
354
00:29:42,294 --> 00:29:47,413
Myers arrived on our wing from a
secure unit to finish his sentence.
355
00:29:47,414 --> 00:29:52,533
He's quiet, no bother.
But there is something about him.
356
00:29:52,534 --> 00:29:55,374
None of the staff
like the smell of him.
357
00:29:55,375 --> 00:29:58,844
One day his cell bell goes. We
get in there and find an Asian lad
358
00:29:58,845 --> 00:30:00,393
with bad head injuries.
359
00:30:00,394 --> 00:30:02,833
Turns out he's gone into
Myers' cell to do someone,
360
00:30:02,834 --> 00:30:05,193
been disarmed
and attacked with his own weapon.
361
00:30:05,194 --> 00:30:08,193
I say, well, that serves
you right, then, son.
362
00:30:08,194 --> 00:30:13,033
He says, "But, boss,
Eddie J Turner is in there."
363
00:30:13,034 --> 00:30:17,193
Now, if that's true, I need to get
him off the wing, fast.
364
00:30:17,194 --> 00:30:21,313
So I go to the number one governor,
and I report what I've been told.
365
00:30:21,314 --> 00:30:22,353
And he says,
366
00:30:22,354 --> 00:30:27,513
forget it, put nothing
down on paper, never happened.
367
00:30:27,514 --> 00:30:31,393
The Asian lad gets shipped out
straight away, and that's it.
368
00:30:31,394 --> 00:30:33,593
Then one day,
that cell's suddenly empty,
369
00:30:33,594 --> 00:30:39,313
and all we're told is to box up the
props in there and drop it to OMU.
370
00:30:39,314 --> 00:30:43,433
So, I do as I'm told,
but now I'm curious.
371
00:30:43,434 --> 00:30:46,993
And I get on their system to see
where these boxes are going.
372
00:30:46,994 --> 00:30:49,953
Inverclyde Criminal
Justice Services.
373
00:30:49,954 --> 00:30:52,273
But there's no contact name,
nothing.
374
00:30:52,274 --> 00:30:55,313
I can't even find Myers' record now.
375
00:30:55,314 --> 00:31:02,073
So, I phone them, and they won't say
whether either lad is their client!
376
00:31:02,074 --> 00:31:03,873
That is unheard of!
377
00:31:03,874 --> 00:31:07,033
Hang on. Either lad?
378
00:31:07,034 --> 00:31:08,833
There was two of them in that cell?
379
00:31:08,834 --> 00:31:11,593
Myers shared the cell with
a lad from another secure unit.
380
00:31:11,594 --> 00:31:12,685
You never...
381
00:31:13,954 --> 00:31:15,833
So what's this other lad's name?
382
00:31:15,834 --> 00:31:16,873
He was nobody.
383
00:31:16,874 --> 00:31:19,993
But it's possible that it was him
they were protecting, not Myers,
384
00:31:19,994 --> 00:31:24,631
and therefore that Craig Myers
isn't Eddie J Turner!
385
00:31:33,874 --> 00:31:36,473
I'm sorry. If I'd known, I'd have
waited to give you the name.
386
00:31:36,474 --> 00:31:40,593
Why? He's sure and so am I -
387
00:31:40,594 --> 00:31:43,753
Craig Myers is Eddie J Turner.
388
00:31:43,754 --> 00:31:45,553
And when he stands up in court
389
00:31:45,554 --> 00:31:51,373
and falls to pieces in front
of everyone, he'll prove it himself.
390
00:32:13,834 --> 00:32:17,471
All I'm saying is you
should talk to her.
391
00:32:17,754 --> 00:32:20,754
I know what you're saying, but...
392
00:32:22,194 --> 00:32:24,073
Hey, Bex.
393
00:32:24,074 --> 00:32:26,993
Talk to who about what? What's that?
394
00:32:26,994 --> 00:32:28,353
Tom said you should talk to her.
395
00:32:28,354 --> 00:32:29,445
Talk to who?
396
00:32:32,314 --> 00:32:34,393
Our lawyer, Ms Mackie.
397
00:32:34,394 --> 00:32:38,073
He doesn't think it's a good idea,
me giving evidence in court.
398
00:32:38,074 --> 00:32:39,713
Doesn't he?
399
00:32:39,714 --> 00:32:41,633
Look, I know it's none of
my business... Do you?
400
00:32:41,634 --> 00:32:43,793
But they'll rip him
to shreds, won't they?
401
00:32:43,794 --> 00:32:46,393
Will they? Why? Why?!
402
00:32:46,394 --> 00:32:48,033
Cos I've known him ten years,
403
00:32:48,034 --> 00:32:51,233
and he can only just hold
a conversation with me!
404
00:32:51,234 --> 00:32:54,113
You know what these
lawyers are like, all right?
405
00:32:54,114 --> 00:32:56,842
The way they can twist things.
406
00:32:59,594 --> 00:33:00,633
I think,
407
00:33:00,634 --> 00:33:03,553
when we're deciding what
paint to use to decorate
408
00:33:03,554 --> 00:33:06,273
the hallway,
then maybe we should ask Tom.
409
00:33:06,274 --> 00:33:08,953
But for legal questions that will
affect the future of our family,
410
00:33:08,954 --> 00:33:12,227
I think we should
trust our advocate.
411
00:33:35,954 --> 00:33:37,153
Witness statements are
412
00:33:37,154 --> 00:33:39,673
usually taken by a
precognition officer,
413
00:33:39,674 --> 00:33:44,753
but given that we haven't got long,
I want to be across everything.
414
00:33:44,754 --> 00:33:47,193
Do I have to be a witness?
415
00:33:47,194 --> 00:33:50,473
You'll be required to give evidence
on behalf of the Crown, yes.
416
00:33:50,474 --> 00:33:52,793
You mean, I've got no choice?
417
00:33:52,794 --> 00:33:53,834
Not really.
418
00:33:57,194 --> 00:33:58,558
What about her?
419
00:33:59,954 --> 00:34:03,393
The accused isn't required to give
evidence, but I'll be surprised
420
00:34:03,394 --> 00:34:05,793
if the defence don't call her.
421
00:34:05,794 --> 00:34:09,249
Now, do you have any
specific concerns?
422
00:34:09,434 --> 00:34:12,798
I'm not mad about talking,
that's all.
423
00:34:13,754 --> 00:34:15,391
I'm no good at it.
424
00:34:16,754 --> 00:34:18,914
Even... this.
425
00:34:21,274 --> 00:34:25,393
We're already making an
application for special measures.
426
00:34:25,394 --> 00:34:29,593
You can have a supporter if you want,
or screens, if that might help.
427
00:34:29,594 --> 00:34:30,634
No.
428
00:34:32,234 --> 00:34:38,713
No. If I have to do it, I don't want
her thinking I'm hiding away.
429
00:34:38,714 --> 00:34:39,754
OK.
430
00:34:41,634 --> 00:34:45,271
So, I see you have a
previous conviction.
431
00:34:45,754 --> 00:34:48,073
What's that got to do with this?
432
00:34:48,074 --> 00:34:51,993
Well, the defence can bring out
anything that calls your character
433
00:34:51,994 --> 00:34:55,393
into question and makes
your word seem unreliable to a jury.
434
00:34:55,394 --> 00:34:58,393
But can they ask her about her past?
435
00:34:58,394 --> 00:35:04,394
Yes, in theory but, as she hasn't
got any previous convictions, no.
436
00:35:06,954 --> 00:35:08,233
Craig...
437
00:35:08,234 --> 00:35:12,313
...if what you're concerned about
is people close to you hearing
438
00:35:12,314 --> 00:35:16,993
certain information for the first
time, you might consider...
439
00:35:16,994 --> 00:35:18,813
...pre-empting that.
440
00:35:27,714 --> 00:35:28,805
You're next.
441
00:35:39,194 --> 00:35:42,753
You look even younger
than in your picture.
442
00:35:42,754 --> 00:35:48,153
It's the glasses. They're for court
only - it's shameful, I know, but...
443
00:35:48,154 --> 00:35:51,473
...everything's a performance
in the end, isn't it?
444
00:35:51,474 --> 00:35:55,113
So I've got here that you were
upstairs, getting Jessica
445
00:35:55,114 --> 00:35:57,353
ready for bed,
you heard the doorbell and Craig...
446
00:35:57,354 --> 00:36:00,593
Sorry, can I ask you something?
Mm-hm.
447
00:36:00,594 --> 00:36:04,433
You must have had witnesses who've
had to change their identity.
448
00:36:04,434 --> 00:36:05,473
Have you?
449
00:36:05,474 --> 00:36:09,753
We're not really supposed to talk about anything
other than this case, Mrs Myers. I'm sorry.
450
00:36:09,754 --> 00:36:11,913
Yeah, I know, it's just...
451
00:36:11,914 --> 00:36:13,273
...I was looking online,
452
00:36:13,274 --> 00:36:17,713
and it says that they are trained
in counter-surveillance,
453
00:36:17,714 --> 00:36:21,033
told to stay off social media,
avoid drink and drugs.
454
00:36:21,034 --> 00:36:23,473
I'm really not the person
you should be talking to.
455
00:36:23,474 --> 00:36:25,993
I mean, they have to get
clearance to go on holiday,
456
00:36:25,994 --> 00:36:28,793
let alone get married
and have kids. Is...
457
00:36:28,794 --> 00:36:30,673
Is that right? Mrs Myers...
458
00:36:30,674 --> 00:36:35,584
I've got no-one I can talk to,
not about this, not now.
459
00:36:37,314 --> 00:36:41,224
I understand you're
having questions, but...
460
00:36:41,674 --> 00:36:44,553
...the internet isn't always the best
place to get the most reliable...
461
00:36:44,554 --> 00:36:46,193
I know that.
462
00:36:46,194 --> 00:36:47,467
You know that.
463
00:36:48,514 --> 00:36:49,554
Sorry.
464
00:36:52,874 --> 00:36:55,873
I don't know anything
about Eddie J Turner.
465
00:36:55,874 --> 00:36:58,193
No, no, no,
I'm not asking that, I'm just...
466
00:36:58,194 --> 00:37:05,034
I am asking if someone in that position
would be allowed to have kids.
467
00:37:08,434 --> 00:37:12,473
All I know is that there
would be risk assessment,
468
00:37:12,474 --> 00:37:16,033
careful monitoring,
particularly at the outset,
469
00:37:16,034 --> 00:37:17,913
but I'm really not supposed to...
470
00:37:17,914 --> 00:37:20,633
Even without
the rest of the family knowing?
471
00:37:20,634 --> 00:37:24,393
Well, I mean, that would be
a question for those in charge
472
00:37:24,394 --> 00:37:26,073
of the case and the subject.
473
00:37:26,074 --> 00:37:29,753
But, yes, if all else is going well,
474
00:37:29,754 --> 00:37:32,793
there's no reason why
life can't be totally normal.
475
00:37:32,794 --> 00:37:38,473
Just to be clear, Mrs Myers, the Crown's
position is that it doesn't matter
476
00:37:38,474 --> 00:37:41,929
whether Craig is
Eddie J Turner or not.
477
00:37:42,474 --> 00:37:44,020
It matters to me.
478
00:37:49,234 --> 00:37:50,993
Let's see something later.
479
00:37:50,994 --> 00:37:52,722
Go on, go and play.
480
00:37:53,634 --> 00:37:54,674
Be good!
481
00:38:10,194 --> 00:38:13,285
Bex, I need to tell you something.
482
00:38:14,874 --> 00:38:20,693
About five years back, I was walking
through the town with Tom...
483
00:38:21,994 --> 00:38:26,449
...and some guy out with
his mates said something.
484
00:38:26,945 --> 00:38:31,036
Next thing,
we ended up in a bit of a scuffle.
485
00:38:31,345 --> 00:38:32,385
Is that it?
486
00:38:36,185 --> 00:38:38,744
Why didn't you say anything?
487
00:38:38,745 --> 00:38:43,384
There was nothing much to say, I was
admonished, there was no actual punishment.
488
00:38:43,385 --> 00:38:46,384
What, like, you were convicted?
Like, you went to court?
489
00:38:46,385 --> 00:38:49,022
It was something and nothing.
490
00:38:52,585 --> 00:38:55,184
How many days were you in court for?
491
00:38:55,185 --> 00:38:56,225
Only one.
492
00:38:57,265 --> 00:38:59,344
Where did you tell me you were?
493
00:38:59,345 --> 00:39:00,904
Work, I suppose.
494
00:39:00,905 --> 00:39:02,064
Right.
495
00:39:02,065 --> 00:39:05,224
So you didn't just not tell me,
did you? You lied.
496
00:39:05,225 --> 00:39:07,862
You were out of it, remember?
497
00:39:09,785 --> 00:39:11,064
You had enough to worry about.
498
00:39:11,065 --> 00:39:17,793
Yeah, I've got enough to worry about
now, Craig! So why are you telling me?
499
00:39:23,625 --> 00:39:25,944
Cos it's going to come out in court.
That's why, isn't it?
500
00:39:25,945 --> 00:39:27,400
Bex... Isn't it?
501
00:39:31,425 --> 00:39:32,465
I'm sorry.
502
00:39:33,505 --> 00:39:35,584
You really don't make it easy,
do you?
503
00:39:35,585 --> 00:39:37,131
What do you mean?
504
00:39:41,425 --> 00:39:42,971
What else, Craig?
505
00:39:44,145 --> 00:39:48,327
What else does Tom
know about you that I don't?
506
00:39:48,385 --> 00:39:51,204
You know me better than anyone.
507
00:39:53,225 --> 00:39:59,044
How come Social Services visited
for so long after Jess was born?
508
00:39:59,065 --> 00:40:00,247
You know why.
509
00:40:01,905 --> 00:40:04,269
Cos you were struggling...
510
00:40:05,145 --> 00:40:10,418
...and we had no family support.
I couldn't cope on my own.
511
00:40:13,865 --> 00:40:16,593
I'm not him, Bex, he's not me.
512
00:40:50,545 --> 00:40:52,273
You ready, soldier?
513
00:40:54,945 --> 00:40:58,127
I've only waited 15 years for this.
514
00:40:58,625 --> 00:41:01,104
Solomon can't actually ask him.
515
00:41:01,105 --> 00:41:03,064
You know that, don't you?
516
00:41:03,065 --> 00:41:09,585
Not outright, but he knows I know,
and he'll break, I know he will.
517
00:41:17,905 --> 00:41:19,360
Thanks for that.
518
00:41:21,985 --> 00:41:23,464
How's the next witness feeling?
519
00:41:23,465 --> 00:41:26,284
You two aren't allowed to talk.
520
00:41:26,425 --> 00:41:29,624
Your accomplice - sorry, friend -
521
00:41:29,625 --> 00:41:32,144
seems to be having trouble
remembering who's on trial.
522
00:41:32,145 --> 00:41:35,691
No smoke without fire,
though, is there?
523
00:41:36,305 --> 00:41:39,104
If you're referring to
the allegations about me,
524
00:41:39,105 --> 00:41:41,344
I'd have thought
you as a PI would understand
525
00:41:41,345 --> 00:41:44,424
the importance of evidence,
how certain you need to be
526
00:41:44,425 --> 00:41:48,304
before making accusations that
can destroy someone's life.
527
00:41:48,305 --> 00:41:50,784
Innocent until proven guilty,
528
00:41:50,785 --> 00:41:55,064
the same human rights your
friend is benefitting from.
529
00:41:55,065 --> 00:42:02,338
I suppose we're used to thinking only child
killers are entitled to human rights?
530
00:42:02,785 --> 00:42:06,144
You know, the only reason you get
away with saying such stupid things
531
00:42:06,145 --> 00:42:09,864
is because people feel sorry for you,
or they need you to sell newspapers.
532
00:42:09,865 --> 00:42:11,584
Somebody really
needs to tell you that.
533
00:42:11,585 --> 00:42:13,222
Have you got kids?
534
00:42:14,305 --> 00:42:16,585
No. Craig Myers has.
535
00:42:18,905 --> 00:42:21,424
You've no more expertise or
rights than anyone else,
536
00:42:21,425 --> 00:42:25,464
and the idea that you should have any say
in what happens to Liam's killer is absurd.
537
00:42:25,465 --> 00:42:26,624
He's her son.
538
00:42:26,625 --> 00:42:32,080
I know, and the only thing that
entitles her to is her grief.
539
00:42:58,305 --> 00:42:59,345
Mr Myers?
540
00:43:21,505 --> 00:43:24,944
Mr Myers, oath or affirmation?
541
00:43:24,945 --> 00:43:26,304
Oath, please.
542
00:43:26,305 --> 00:43:28,944
I swear by Almighty God that
I shall tell the truth,
543
00:43:28,945 --> 00:43:32,673
the whole truth and nothing
but the truth.
544
00:43:32,785 --> 00:43:34,240
Advocate Depute.
545
00:43:36,145 --> 00:43:39,418
Could you tell us your name and age?
546
00:43:48,865 --> 00:43:51,593
My name is Craig Andrew Myers.
547
00:43:52,305 --> 00:43:53,851
I'm 28 years old.
548
00:43:54,665 --> 00:43:57,393
Are you working at the moment?
549
00:44:52,145 --> 00:44:54,418
What's the wrong with me?
550
00:46:11,905 --> 00:46:14,345
Hello? I couldn't do it.
551
00:46:15,505 --> 00:46:17,064
You couldn't do what?
552
00:46:17,065 --> 00:46:21,429
Couldn't drive the bus,
let alone pick anyone up.
553
00:46:23,265 --> 00:46:25,624
What happened?
554
00:46:25,625 --> 00:46:30,344
I offered to work in the depot, but Leigh
just wanted me to take more time off.
555
00:46:30,345 --> 00:46:33,784
You're a driver,
he says, and if you can't drive...
556
00:46:33,785 --> 00:46:35,984
Nobody wants me around.
557
00:46:35,985 --> 00:46:37,864
Did he say that?
558
00:46:37,865 --> 00:46:42,384
He didn't have to! He was just
looking for an excuse.
559
00:46:42,385 --> 00:46:44,184
What do you mean?
560
00:46:44,185 --> 00:46:47,004
I told him, back me or sack me.
561
00:46:48,225 --> 00:46:50,589
And they sacked you?
562
00:46:55,785 --> 00:46:56,825
Craig?
563
00:47:00,905 --> 00:47:01,945
Sorry.
564
00:47:03,385 --> 00:47:04,424
Yes.
565
00:47:04,425 --> 00:47:06,784
They sacked you from a job you
had held for eight years with
566
00:47:06,785 --> 00:47:09,064
an unblemished record -
is that correct?
567
00:47:09,065 --> 00:47:10,504
Yes. Craig...
568
00:47:10,505 --> 00:47:14,664
...before we talk about the specific
events of the 31st October, 2017,
569
00:47:14,665 --> 00:47:21,938
can you tell us how else your life has
been impacted by what happened that night?
570
00:47:22,625 --> 00:47:26,304
Before, I was just, you know...
571
00:47:26,305 --> 00:47:28,184
...ordinary.
572
00:47:28,185 --> 00:47:31,384
Enjoying my work
and time with my family.
573
00:47:31,385 --> 00:47:34,464
That's pretty much all
I've ever wanted.
574
00:47:34,465 --> 00:47:38,864
But everything that I've done since
it happened, everything I've said,
575
00:47:38,865 --> 00:47:40,824
it's like people are reading
things into things
576
00:47:40,825 --> 00:47:45,007
all of the time, trying to
figure out if I'm...
577
00:47:45,665 --> 00:47:50,344
I feel like everyone's staring
at me, I feel like everyone knows.
578
00:47:50,345 --> 00:47:51,982
Knows what, Craig?
579
00:47:52,585 --> 00:47:54,131
That I'm the one.
580
00:47:55,305 --> 00:47:57,396
Accused of being him...
581
00:47:58,625 --> 00:48:00,262
...Eddie J Turner.
582
00:48:01,945 --> 00:48:05,224
Most people think there's no smoke
without fire, don't they?
583
00:48:05,225 --> 00:48:07,316
I've thought it myself.
584
00:48:08,025 --> 00:48:10,664
And the thing is, there's nothing
you can do once it's been said.
585
00:48:10,665 --> 00:48:12,393
It's there forever.
586
00:48:12,945 --> 00:48:19,764
Some people will always think that you're
him, no matter what you say or do.
587
00:48:21,505 --> 00:48:26,505
And you'll probably always think
you're being stared at.
588
00:48:51,505 --> 00:48:52,545
Hiya.
589
00:48:56,065 --> 00:48:57,105
Come on.
590
00:48:59,665 --> 00:49:02,302
Don't worry. I can get a job.
591
00:49:16,305 --> 00:49:18,033
Is that you? Mm-hm.
592
00:49:19,745 --> 00:49:23,824
Jess has got to do this family tree
for school.
593
00:49:23,825 --> 00:49:26,189
I thought you'd seen them.
594
00:49:28,665 --> 00:49:31,484
You look like Jess in that one.
595
00:49:36,305 --> 00:49:40,578
We haven't got a single
photo of you as a child.
596
00:49:43,225 --> 00:49:45,984
I don't think anybody wanted
to remember my childhood!
597
00:49:45,985 --> 00:49:51,440
There's things we should have
talked about, Craig... Get off!
598
00:49:52,945 --> 00:49:53,985
Mr Myers...
599
00:49:55,465 --> 00:49:57,824
...when DI Grover asked
you in the hospital
600
00:49:57,825 --> 00:50:03,371
if the attacker had said anything
to you, what was your reply?
601
00:50:05,265 --> 00:50:07,184
I said no.
602
00:50:07,185 --> 00:50:08,704
Because?
603
00:50:08,705 --> 00:50:10,944
Because I didn't remember.
604
00:50:10,945 --> 00:50:12,784
"No."
605
00:50:12,785 --> 00:50:15,240
And what made you remember?
606
00:50:15,745 --> 00:50:17,224
I don't...
607
00:50:17,225 --> 00:50:19,304
I mean,
how do you remember anything?
608
00:50:19,305 --> 00:50:21,064
That's the question.
609
00:50:21,065 --> 00:50:22,904
Well, I can't answer it, sorry.
610
00:50:22,905 --> 00:50:24,424
I just did!
611
00:50:24,425 --> 00:50:26,064
Very well.
612
00:50:26,065 --> 00:50:30,784
We've heard evidence going to the
severity of the head injury sustained.
613
00:50:30,785 --> 00:50:34,504
First, I'd like to make clear to
the jury that the wounds visible
614
00:50:34,505 --> 00:50:38,744
today are not as a result
of the Halloween attack.
615
00:50:38,745 --> 00:50:42,745
Those are more recent
injuries, are they not?
616
00:50:43,745 --> 00:50:45,344
Yes.
617
00:50:45,345 --> 00:50:49,984
Now, given the seriousness of that
original head injury and Dr Nielsen's
618
00:50:49,985 --> 00:50:54,104
lack of certainty about
how your memory might be affected,
619
00:50:54,105 --> 00:50:57,504
if we accept that the
attacker did speak,
620
00:50:57,505 --> 00:51:01,904
how sure can you realistically
be of his exact words?
621
00:51:01,905 --> 00:51:03,104
It's what he said.
622
00:51:03,105 --> 00:51:05,184
But they were whispered,
were they not?
623
00:51:05,185 --> 00:51:06,584
Yes.
624
00:51:06,585 --> 00:51:08,624
After the blows? Yes.
625
00:51:08,625 --> 00:51:13,024
Savage blows, and yet YOU can
be absolutely positive?
626
00:51:13,025 --> 00:51:14,864
I just told you, it's what he said.
627
00:51:14,865 --> 00:51:17,744
The problem is, we only
have your word for that, don't we?
628
00:51:17,745 --> 00:51:18,784
I don't...
629
00:51:18,785 --> 00:51:23,058
Why is it a problem?
Are you calling me a liar?!
630
00:51:26,465 --> 00:51:27,784
Are you a liar, Mr Myers?
631
00:51:27,785 --> 00:51:28,944
No.
632
00:51:28,945 --> 00:51:33,184
You've never lied to the authorities before?
I'd remind you that you're under oath.
633
00:51:33,185 --> 00:51:35,824
If you're speaking about 2012,
I was admonished.
634
00:51:35,825 --> 00:51:40,464
For a street brawl in which you
denied any involvement to the police,
635
00:51:40,465 --> 00:51:43,744
until CCTV evidence
caught you in a lie.
636
00:51:43,745 --> 00:51:45,784
Is that correct?
It was a stupid idea.
637
00:51:45,785 --> 00:51:47,240
Is that correct?
638
00:51:48,625 --> 00:51:49,665
Yes.
639
00:52:37,705 --> 00:52:38,745
Rebecca!
640
00:52:42,065 --> 00:52:43,105
Are you OK?
641
00:52:55,505 --> 00:52:57,384
I've no doubt that you've
been the victim...
642
00:52:57,385 --> 00:52:59,658
...of violence, Mr Myers.
643
00:53:00,305 --> 00:53:02,760
But I do doubt your memory.
644
00:53:17,145 --> 00:53:18,185
Mr Myers?
645
00:53:20,225 --> 00:53:23,384
You see, I believe that
you are misremembering,
646
00:53:23,385 --> 00:53:27,064
deliberately or otherwise,
trying to make sense of a random
647
00:53:27,065 --> 00:53:31,611
event by creating connections
where there are none.
648
00:53:32,025 --> 00:53:33,944
Do you think that's possible?
649
00:53:33,945 --> 00:53:38,504
No. I'm not lying and there's
nothing wrong with my memory.
650
00:53:38,505 --> 00:53:39,744
Really?
651
00:53:39,745 --> 00:53:44,504
So, if asked, you could tell the court what
you were doing last week, or last month?
652
00:53:44,505 --> 00:53:46,864
I think so, as much as anybody else.
653
00:53:46,865 --> 00:53:49,744
What about six months,
or a year ago?
654
00:53:49,745 --> 00:53:50,784
I suppose.
655
00:53:50,785 --> 00:53:52,785
What if I asked you...
656
00:53:54,945 --> 00:53:58,036
...about your childhood, Mr Myers?
657
00:54:11,985 --> 00:54:14,064
I don't see what that's
got to do with anything.
658
00:54:14,065 --> 00:54:18,464
My Lady... I tend to agree with
the witness, Mr Mishra.
659
00:54:18,465 --> 00:54:21,984
The reliability of the complainer's memory
goes to the heart of this case, My Lady.
660
00:54:21,985 --> 00:54:24,544
My Lady, may I remind the court
that we are not here to establish
661
00:54:24,545 --> 00:54:26,584
whether Craig Myers
is Eddie J Turner?
662
00:54:26,585 --> 00:54:27,624
That's not what I asked.
663
00:54:27,625 --> 00:54:31,024
I don't like talking about my childhood,
and I don't see why I should have to.
664
00:54:31,025 --> 00:54:33,904
Understood, Mr Myers.
665
00:54:33,905 --> 00:54:36,984
Confirmation that you have
childhood memories should
666
00:54:36,985 --> 00:54:40,713
prove sufficient for
Mr Mishra's purposes.
667
00:54:51,945 --> 00:54:53,945
The truth is, I don't.
668
00:54:54,945 --> 00:54:58,582
But it's not because
I have a bad memory.
669
00:55:02,985 --> 00:55:07,304
My mum and dad were always out,
so...
670
00:55:07,305 --> 00:55:12,544
...I'd go and stay with people, or
get put in care for a week or two.
671
00:55:12,545 --> 00:55:15,909
But most of the time,
I was on my own.
672
00:55:18,265 --> 00:55:20,265
So what's to remember?
673
00:55:21,265 --> 00:55:22,424
Ask him who he is.
674
00:55:22,425 --> 00:55:24,184
You seem agitated, Mr Myers.
675
00:55:24,185 --> 00:55:26,024
You'd be agitated! Ask him.
676
00:55:26,025 --> 00:55:29,824
The witness' memory appears sound,
Mr Mishra, please move on.
677
00:55:29,825 --> 00:55:31,824
No! Mrs Dean, please...
678
00:55:31,825 --> 00:55:34,064
Ask him while he's under oath.
Ask him!
679
00:55:34,065 --> 00:55:35,975
You ask me!
680
00:56:03,265 --> 00:56:04,305
Sorry.
681
00:56:31,145 --> 00:56:33,344
I know you were hoping for more.
682
00:56:33,345 --> 00:56:36,255
He thinks he's got away with it.
683
00:56:38,985 --> 00:56:41,905
I'm not giving up, Mo. I can't.
684
00:56:54,785 --> 00:56:57,024
You have to stay out of prison.
685
00:56:57,025 --> 00:56:59,944
And that means winning the sympathy
of the judge and the jury,
686
00:56:59,945 --> 00:57:05,764
and stating categorically that you
did not want Craig Myers dead.
687
00:57:15,385 --> 00:57:17,784
Daddy, I'm ready for school!
688
00:57:17,785 --> 00:57:20,149
Craig? Get her inside now!
689
00:57:32,025 --> 00:57:33,864
Is she coming in at all today?
690
00:57:33,865 --> 00:57:35,304
If you take a seat...
691
00:57:35,305 --> 00:57:37,487
She said she trusted me!
692
00:57:44,465 --> 00:57:46,304
You saw what he did, Gerry.
693
00:57:46,305 --> 00:57:48,504
You said it was the worst
day of your career.
694
00:57:48,505 --> 00:57:49,824
It was.
695
00:57:49,825 --> 00:57:54,553
If there's anything you can tell me,
anything at all!
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