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- We knew
that there was still a mole
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who had not been identified.
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- Our nation, our free society,
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is an international target,
in a dangerous world.
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- They said,
"We want you to go undercover
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in FBI headquarters
to catch him."
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- The espionage operations
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designed to steal vital
secrets of the United States
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are as intense today
as they have ever been.
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- This is a big case,
there is no getting out.
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He told me,
"You could make a fortune
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by dropping that to a foreign
intelligence agency."
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- If he determines
that you betrayed him,
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he would commit
violence against you.
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- He's armed.
He has a gun.
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- This wasn't just a spy,
it was the spy.
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- Oh, my God,
the mole is an FBI agent.
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In the FBI
we make a lot of headlines.
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Drug busts, mob stings...
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...terrorist takedowns.
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We understand why people
want to tell stories about us.
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- Mark it.
- Freeze!
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- FBI.
- FBI!
- Action!
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But they don't know
the half of it.
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What really goes down?
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We save that for each other
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when we're talking
agent to agent.
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This is FBI True.
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- We're in Washington, D.C.
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Spy capital of the world.
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Where you worked on
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one of the most important cases
in American spy history.
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- I lived right over there.
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I was working for the FBI,
working undercover,
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newly married.
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I worked counterintelligence
and counterterror.
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So I was part of the S.S.G.,
A.K.A. The Ghosts.
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I would follow
either a spy or a terrorist,
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track them and investigate them.
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- So it's the weekend,
you have some downtime,
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and your life is about
to change forever.
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- I was asleep in this
apartment over here.
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Juliana and I had been married
three months at the time,
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and I got a phone call
early on a Sunday morning.
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And it was Gene McClelland,
supervisory special agent
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out of the Washington field
office for my entire team
of ghosts.
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So my boss.
- Right.
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- In fact, like my boss's boss.
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And I said, "Okay, Gene,
let me get dressed.
I'll come downtown."
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And he says,
"I'm parked right outside."
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- What are you thinking?
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- I'm thinking
I'm in a lot of trouble.
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- Well, absolutely, because,
I mean, let's face it, the FBI,
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the only time people get
an invitation to come outside
the house and talk to us
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is if we're going to arrest you.
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- When I arrived on the Russian
espionage squad in 2000,
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they were actively
searching for a mole.
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- How did you get to Washington?
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- Four years with
counterintelligence
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and one year with
Russian organized crime.
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- So you arrive in D.C.
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What's the situation?
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- There were multiple US persons
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from various intelligence
agencies
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who were arrested for espionage.
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- The FBI says Randy Jeffries
sold government secrets
to the Soviets.
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If that sounds familiar,
it should.
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Randy Jeffries is the 11th
American this year arrested
in an espionage case.
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- ...but all of those
arrests didn't really account
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for all of the sources
that were wrapped up.
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One of those sources
who was neutralized
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had the code name Top Hat.
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- Top hat was a Russian general.
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His name was Dmitri Polyakov.
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He was recruited and worked for
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US intelligence
for approximately 17 years.
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No one at the time
knew exactly what happened
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or why or how he was given up.
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And that was always a mystery.
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He risked his life not
for money but for his ideals.
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And the CIA director said
Top Hat kept the Cold War
from heating up.
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But Top Hat was eventually
arrested by the Russians...
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...for his work
with the US government.
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It was said that he was
executed with a gunshot
to the back of the head
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and his body
was never found.
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Like, what's going on?
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Do we have a mole
in the US government
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that's working for the Russians?
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So we knew that there was
still a mole out there
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who had not been identified.
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The case was given
the codename Graysuit.
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Actually, this is
the most difficult part
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of this case
for me to talk about.
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It's because we're talking
about sources and methods,
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and we're literally talking
about lives of individuals.
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But we paid a source
for information to help us
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find the mole working for
the United States government.
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I believe it was
close to 7 million.
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It was a lot of money.
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The most jarring piece
of evidence we got was
a secret audio tape
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that we hoped would lead us to
the identification of the mole.
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It was a phone call between
a Russian individual
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and an unknown male.
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Around 5 a.m., I received
a call from the analyst,
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and he said, "I need you
to come into the office."
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And I said, "I'll be right in."
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The analyst had worked
for the individual.
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Knew him personally,
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knew the way he spoke.
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So he writes
the identity of the mole
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on a 3x5 card,
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and he takes that card
over to headquarters,
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where another analyst
was sitting.
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The two of them listened to
the recording of the phone call.
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They both recognize the
previously unknown individual
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on that recording.
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And when he finished,
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I had no doubt
that he was correct.
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The mole was a highly placed
FBI Agent
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who could do a lot of damage.
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- Okay.
So you get dressed...
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- Shaken. Heart pounding.
I walked out the door.
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I'm checking the corners.
I'm looking up and down
the street,
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and I look across the street,
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and there's Gene, my boss.
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I walked over.
I got in the car next to him.
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He puts the windows up.
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What the hell
is happening right now?
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He told me that
this was a decorated agent,
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a supervisory special agent,
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somebody who they
suspected of espionage.
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He told me that they wanted me
to go undercover
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and he says, "Have you ever
heard of a guy named
Robert Hanssen?"
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I said, "No."
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He said, "Good, because we
don't want you to ghost him.
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We want you to go undercover
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in FBI headquarters
to catch him.
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Where does he go?
Who's he meeting with?
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What kind of data
is he trying to access?"
Anything I could see.
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I asked him,
"Do I get a legend?
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How am I going undercover here?"
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And he said, "No, you have
to go in as yourself.
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We believe he's able to
penetrate computer systems.
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So what happens if
he learns your identity?"
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So I felt uncomfortable.
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- Did you understand
that you had the ability
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to say, "No, I don't think
I should do this."
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- I felt like Gene was giving me
a choice until he said,
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"Look, Eric,
I've got to know right now
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if you're in or out.
Not tomorrow, not next week,
right now.
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Because my next
meeting is downtown
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with the Director of the FBI,
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and he wants to know
if you're in or out.
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I'm thinking, "The director
of the FBI knows who I am?"
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Of all the agents in the Bureau,
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they chose me
to be the eyes and ears
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of the FBI inside
an elaborate mouse trap.
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What are you supposed
to say to that?
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- "I'm in."
- I said, "I'm in."
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- The decision was made
to create a job for Hanssen.
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- Deborah, what did you
think of that idea?
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If you're near
the end of your career,
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you didn't apply
for a promotion,
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but you're given a promotion...
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...and it just
doesn't ring true.
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I felt that it would
cause suspicion
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and my biggest fear
is that he would bolt.
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- What are some of the assets
and players we brought
into that?
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- We needed someone who
Hanssen wouldn't know.
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So someone maybe fairly new
to act as his assistant.
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And that's where Eric O'Neill
came into play.
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The FBI is giving us
rare access
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to film inside Headquarters,
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where the spy
hunt went down.
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So Eric, your first day coming
into the Hoover Building,
what's that like?
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- It was early in December 2000
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and I come in to the 9th floor
and meet Rich Garcia.
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- And Rich, do you remember
that moment when you met Eric?
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- I do. I was fighting H.R.
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because they said we have
qualified people in our building
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to put in there with Hanssen,
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and I couldn't tell them
why I needed Eric.
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- So the only two people
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that I knew were Rich Garcia
and my handler.
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She would debrief me, she would
give me different tasks,
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Rich was right down the hall.
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So we converted
this two-room office.
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- He brought me into this room
that was at that point
just a skeleton.
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There were barely walls.
There was all this tech.
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There were wires everywhere.
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And he says, "This is where
you're going to be working."
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- What kind of assets are we
putting in to help us out?
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We were getting
various technology
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to capture a conversation
and video.
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We had to move the wiring from
that floor down to lower floors,
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where we had a monitoring room.
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- So the job
that you're now walking into,
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what kind of job is this?
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- I was told that Hanssen's been
exploiting computer systems
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and because I had
a background in computers,
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they put me on the case.
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- Hanssen was going to retire
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that following year
in April, mandatory.
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And so we were concerned,
investigative-wise,
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that he was going to leave
before we had evidence
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in order to convict him
and arrest him.
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So we had to create a job,
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enough of a carrot
to keep him around.
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It's a new job
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because we have antiquated
computer systems at the time,
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we were in the process
of renovating all these systems,
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but we weren't there yet.
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- So Robert Hanssen, he was
in charge of the Analytic Unit,
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- Correct. Those analysts
were looking for the mole.
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- So being that
he was the bad guy,
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seeing some
of the investigative results
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of some of the investigations,
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looking for a variety of moles
to include himself,
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he would have access
to see that.
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- It increased
the complexity tremendously.
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So he knew the players,
he knew the Russian players.
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He knew how they operated.
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He knew how to investigate
the cases. He knew a lot.
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- So Rich is your new boss.
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What does he tell you
your job is?
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- The first was,
"Don't screw up."
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Number two was to gain
Hanssen's trust.
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If I didn't gain his trust,
then he was never going to
talk to me.
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And I had this other task I was
supposed to do that I really
didn't want to do,
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which was make him angry,
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we want to see how he reacts
when he's stressed.
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- Day one, you walk in
the office for your new job.
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- He comes strolling in.
Doesn't even say a word to me.
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Goes in his office
and shuts the door.
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He was a very large man,
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a lot taller than me
and physically imposing.
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And after a few minutes,
I thought, "I got to talk
to this guy."
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- You gotta say hi.
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- I sat down across
the desk from him
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and he told me,
"I didn't tell you could sit."
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- Oh.
- And that was our relationship.
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I tried to fumble into
a conversation.
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He stops me,
throws a legal pad over at me,
244
00:13:10,877 --> 00:13:14,228
and he asks me to write down
my name, my address,
245
00:13:14,271 --> 00:13:16,621
my Social Security number.
And then he said,
"While you're at it,
246
00:13:16,665 --> 00:13:17,971
put your parent's names there.
247
00:13:18,014 --> 00:13:19,755
You're married, right?
Your wife's name,
248
00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:21,583
her Social Security number,
her birth date."
249
00:13:21,626 --> 00:13:23,846
What's he trying to do?
250
00:13:23,890 --> 00:13:25,979
Is he trying to challenge me?
251
00:13:26,022 --> 00:13:28,329
Or is he testing me?
- We have the room wired,
252
00:13:28,372 --> 00:13:30,853
and you're listening
to everything.
253
00:13:30,897 --> 00:13:33,987
How's that going?
Is the system working
like we thought it should?
254
00:13:34,030 --> 00:13:35,858
- Uh, no.
255
00:13:35,902 --> 00:13:37,381
His voice was very low,
256
00:13:37,425 --> 00:13:39,775
so it was hard to pick up
sometimes on the microphone.
257
00:13:39,819 --> 00:13:41,385
It was very difficult because
258
00:13:41,429 --> 00:13:43,735
the systems that they put in
were there;
259
00:13:43,779 --> 00:13:48,697
and to change it would be very
disruptive and suspicious.
260
00:13:48,740 --> 00:13:50,786
- How do we capture
what he's saying?
261
00:13:50,830 --> 00:13:53,702
- I became a human
recording device.
262
00:13:53,745 --> 00:13:57,619
So I started to learn how
Hanssen did what he did
263
00:13:57,662 --> 00:14:01,188
by talking to him about how
we could fix cybersecurity.
264
00:14:01,231 --> 00:14:03,190
- He's talking about ACS system.
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00:14:03,233 --> 00:14:05,105
Tell me what he told you about
266
00:14:05,148 --> 00:14:08,151
the ACS system
and the failures of the Bureau.
267
00:14:08,195 --> 00:14:10,240
- It was a system
to track cases,
268
00:14:10,284 --> 00:14:11,807
and one of the big ideas
269
00:14:11,851 --> 00:14:14,679
is it would have
interconnectivity
with other agencies.
270
00:14:14,723 --> 00:14:16,551
And the way he said it is,
271
00:14:16,594 --> 00:14:20,033
"I can start typing in
names of individuals,
272
00:14:20,076 --> 00:14:21,817
addresses of individuals.
273
00:14:21,861 --> 00:14:24,864
And if it comes back in the ACS
system Xed out,
274
00:14:24,907 --> 00:14:26,909
it means
there's an open case."
275
00:14:26,953 --> 00:14:29,912
He said that you could use it
to find spies.
276
00:14:29,956 --> 00:14:32,784
You could use it to find
investigations into spies.
277
00:14:32,828 --> 00:14:35,352
And then if you learned that
information, you could drop it.
278
00:14:35,396 --> 00:14:37,180
Even though you can't see
the information,
279
00:14:37,224 --> 00:14:39,008
he said,
"You could make a fortune
280
00:14:39,052 --> 00:14:42,403
by dropping that to a foreign
intelligence agency."
281
00:14:43,143 --> 00:14:44,971
Essentially,
what Hanssen was doing
282
00:14:45,014 --> 00:14:47,625
was telling me how
you could exploit the ACS system
283
00:14:47,669 --> 00:14:50,759
if you were a spy
and make a ton of money from it.
284
00:14:52,326 --> 00:14:55,982
And he says, "I want to tell you
the only thing you need to know
285
00:14:56,025 --> 00:14:58,071
to be a successful
counterintelligence agent.
286
00:14:58,114 --> 00:15:00,725
The spy is in the worst
possible place."
287
00:15:00,769 --> 00:15:02,945
Why the hell
is he telling me this?
288
00:15:02,989 --> 00:15:05,861
He's clearly trying
to play me but how?
289
00:15:05,905 --> 00:15:08,733
And he says,
"The spy is that person
290
00:15:08,777 --> 00:15:10,605
who has access
to the information
291
00:15:10,648 --> 00:15:12,520
that will do the most damage
292
00:15:12,563 --> 00:15:14,261
and the knowledge
and the wherewithal
293
00:15:14,304 --> 00:15:17,133
to get that in the hands
of those who will pay
the most for it.
294
00:15:17,177 --> 00:15:20,223
And that, Eric, is what
we are here to defend against."
295
00:15:20,876 --> 00:15:23,487
I'm thinking,
"I'm in FBI headquarters.
296
00:15:23,531 --> 00:15:26,099
This is the worst possible
place for a spy."
297
00:15:32,496 --> 00:15:35,195
- How complex did that make
doing a criminal matter
298
00:15:35,238 --> 00:15:36,848
when the subject
is right in your house?
299
00:15:36,892 --> 00:15:39,982
- We didn't know
how much Hanssen knew
300
00:15:40,026 --> 00:15:41,592
about what we were doing.
301
00:15:41,636 --> 00:15:43,594
So we had to find out,
302
00:15:43,638 --> 00:15:46,293
what is he doing
in our computer system?
303
00:15:46,336 --> 00:15:47,555
What is he following?
304
00:15:48,295 --> 00:15:51,211
Has he been reading about
the other cases?
305
00:15:52,255 --> 00:15:55,693
- How much surveillance support
did we use in this case?
306
00:15:55,737 --> 00:15:59,741
- We had physical surveillance
and we had technical
surveillance both for 24/7.
307
00:15:59,784 --> 00:16:03,963
We had to go out and brief
the surveillance teams
308
00:16:04,006 --> 00:16:07,792
and let them know.
"If you know Robert Hanssen
or if there's any
309
00:16:07,836 --> 00:16:10,143
chance that he knows
you or your face,
310
00:16:10,186 --> 00:16:13,537
you will not work this case.
He's armed.
311
00:16:14,712 --> 00:16:17,193
He has a gun.
We know he's trained to use it."
312
00:16:18,890 --> 00:16:21,502
So we had to designate
him as 'A and D'.
313
00:16:21,545 --> 00:16:24,766
So that meant that
for each surveillance shift,
314
00:16:24,809 --> 00:16:27,160
an agent with a gun
had to be on that shift.
315
00:16:27,203 --> 00:16:29,727
And there were over 300
people who worked it.
316
00:16:29,771 --> 00:16:32,948
- How is this one different
besides the fact that
it was an FBI agent?
317
00:16:32,992 --> 00:16:35,603
- An espionage investigation
can go on for years.
318
00:16:35,646 --> 00:16:37,474
This case,
we didn't have that luxury.
319
00:16:37,518 --> 00:16:39,476
We didn't know whether
or not he was still active.
320
00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,176
Is he still committing espionage
or has he is he just
321
00:16:43,219 --> 00:16:45,091
on ice and not
doing anything right now?
322
00:16:45,134 --> 00:16:46,875
And that was one
of the burning questions.
323
00:16:48,877 --> 00:16:51,314
Hanssen
was a control freak.
324
00:16:52,576 --> 00:16:54,056
He had to maintain control
325
00:16:54,100 --> 00:16:56,319
and he wanted me
to react to him.
326
00:16:56,363 --> 00:16:57,929
I had a desk in the main area
327
00:16:57,973 --> 00:17:01,368
and he had a separate smaller
office right off that.
328
00:17:02,108 --> 00:17:05,807
And there was one time I was
working on something for him
on my laptop,
329
00:17:05,849 --> 00:17:09,244
and he came around behind me,
he put his hands on my shoulders
330
00:17:09,289 --> 00:17:12,204
in a real creepy way,
sort of leaned his chest
against my back.
331
00:17:12,248 --> 00:17:16,078
And If you look here,
this is my desk here, right?
332
00:17:16,122 --> 00:17:18,602
This is a pit area.
There was never going
to be anyone here.
333
00:17:18,646 --> 00:17:19,733
- Right.
- Here's my desk.
334
00:17:19,777 --> 00:17:21,910
I've surrounded
my desk with chairs.
335
00:17:21,953 --> 00:17:26,045
I actually moved a file cabinet
and a computer stand
336
00:17:26,088 --> 00:17:29,222
to make it impossible for him
to come around behind me.
337
00:17:32,181 --> 00:17:35,532
- So what did we learn about
Hanssen's lifestyle?
338
00:17:35,576 --> 00:17:39,014
- We learned that there was
some deviancy there
with Hanssen.
339
00:17:39,058 --> 00:17:42,061
For instance, with his
friend Jack Hoschouer,
340
00:17:43,149 --> 00:17:45,281
Jack would visit their home
341
00:17:45,325 --> 00:17:47,501
and Hanssen would,
342
00:17:47,544 --> 00:17:50,939
you know,
allow or tell Jack, basically,
343
00:17:50,982 --> 00:17:55,074
where to stand
outside of the home
344
00:17:55,117 --> 00:17:59,991
so he could watch Hanssen
and his wife together.
345
00:18:01,515 --> 00:18:04,692
He set up a feed in a room
that Jack stayed in
346
00:18:04,735 --> 00:18:07,738
so that he could
also watch them together.
347
00:18:07,782 --> 00:18:10,611
- So when you say that he set up
a feed so that Jack could watch
348
00:18:10,654 --> 00:18:12,134
he and his wife together,
349
00:18:12,178 --> 00:18:15,703
do you mean sexually?
- Yes, I do mean sexually, yes.
350
00:18:15,746 --> 00:18:18,358
- Does his wife know about this?
- His wife did not know.
351
00:18:18,401 --> 00:18:19,750
We learned too
352
00:18:19,794 --> 00:18:21,665
that Hanssen befriended
a dancer, a stripper...
353
00:18:24,755 --> 00:18:25,930
...Priscilla Sue Galey.
354
00:18:27,584 --> 00:18:30,370
Both say that it was not
a sexual relationship,
355
00:18:30,413 --> 00:18:33,155
but he purchased
certain things for her.
356
00:18:33,199 --> 00:18:34,809
He gave her money
to fix her teeth.
357
00:18:34,852 --> 00:18:38,160
He gave her a used
Mercedes Benz.
He gave her a credit card.
358
00:18:40,249 --> 00:18:43,252
He was on inspection, what we
call inspection at the time.
359
00:18:43,296 --> 00:18:46,037
And they'd go out and inspect
different areas of the FBI.
360
00:18:46,081 --> 00:18:48,823
- He took her on a trip abroad.
- So I just want to clarify.
361
00:18:48,866 --> 00:18:54,220
Robert Hanssen took his stripper
friend on an inspection mission?
362
00:18:54,263 --> 00:18:55,221
- Yes.
363
00:18:58,876 --> 00:19:01,444
He went to church
during the day,
364
00:19:01,488 --> 00:19:03,838
and then he would stop
and see Priscilla
365
00:19:03,881 --> 00:19:05,753
in the evening
on his way home from work.
366
00:19:05,796 --> 00:19:08,234
So he betrayed everything
and everyone.
367
00:19:08,277 --> 00:19:10,453
He was not loyal to anyone.
368
00:19:10,497 --> 00:19:14,457
- There was another time I was
sitting in one of the chairs
in front of my desk,
369
00:19:14,501 --> 00:19:18,853
and he comes over and he puts
his leg up on the armrest
of the chair.
370
00:19:18,896 --> 00:19:22,335
So then I'm staring
right at his crotch.
371
00:19:22,378 --> 00:19:24,902
And I just got up
372
00:19:24,946 --> 00:19:26,861
and I moved away and I'm like,
"What are you doing?"
373
00:19:26,904 --> 00:19:29,690
So I think a lot
of this was power.
374
00:19:31,692 --> 00:19:33,302
That's what
it seems like.
375
00:19:33,346 --> 00:19:35,217
It seems like he was constantly
invading your personal space,
376
00:19:35,261 --> 00:19:37,176
physically
and emotionally as well.
377
00:19:38,612 --> 00:19:42,006
- He was particularly interested
in my personal life,
378
00:19:42,050 --> 00:19:45,227
in my marriage,
in why my wife and I,
379
00:19:45,271 --> 00:19:47,969
even though we had been married,
what, four months at the time,
380
00:19:48,012 --> 00:19:49,405
didn't have children yet,
381
00:19:49,449 --> 00:19:52,930
about my religion,
about how I was disobeying
382
00:19:52,974 --> 00:19:56,151
the precepts of my religion
by not getting my wife pregnant.
383
00:19:56,195 --> 00:19:58,762
I remember coming in once,
384
00:19:58,806 --> 00:20:02,375
and he's at my desk,
on my phone.
385
00:20:02,418 --> 00:20:04,115
I said,
"Who are you talking to?"
386
00:20:04,159 --> 00:20:06,770
And he said, "Oh, I'm having
a conversation with Juliana,"
387
00:20:06,814 --> 00:20:11,427
my wife, and I remember
feeling so angry.
388
00:20:11,471 --> 00:20:13,995
It was visceral,
it was a gut check.
389
00:20:15,605 --> 00:20:18,608
So as we're collecting evidence
for the criminal case,
390
00:20:18,652 --> 00:20:21,655
what are some of the things
we want ideally to get?
391
00:20:21,698 --> 00:20:24,571
- We knew he was writing notes
on this Palm Pilot.
392
00:20:27,791 --> 00:20:31,360
- Hanssen had a routine where
he kept the thing in his back
pocket all the time.
393
00:20:31,404 --> 00:20:34,929
Always one back left pocket.
Any time he sat down,
394
00:20:34,972 --> 00:20:37,105
he'd pull it out of his pocket
and put it in his bag.
395
00:20:37,148 --> 00:20:39,542
And I thought, there has to
be information on here.
396
00:20:39,586 --> 00:20:42,066
He's never separated from it.
397
00:20:42,110 --> 00:20:44,373
He talks about it
more than his children,
398
00:20:44,417 --> 00:20:47,985
and he's told me that
he's written the encryption
on it himself.
399
00:20:48,029 --> 00:20:50,553
- Is there a possibility that
he's going to leave it behind
400
00:20:50,597 --> 00:20:52,207
if he has to go someplace?
401
00:20:52,251 --> 00:20:53,948
- We used everything that
we learned about Hanssen.
402
00:20:53,991 --> 00:20:56,037
He was a narcissist.
403
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,170
So, being challenged meant that
he had to show superiority
404
00:20:59,214 --> 00:21:01,434
and he really loves to shoot.
405
00:21:01,477 --> 00:21:03,479
And we came up
with this idea that
406
00:21:03,523 --> 00:21:06,047
Rich and the assistant director,
407
00:21:06,090 --> 00:21:08,745
were going to come in
unannounced.
408
00:21:08,789 --> 00:21:12,880
- So we set up a firearms shoot,
at FBI headquarters.
409
00:21:14,273 --> 00:21:16,623
We have a range in the basement.
410
00:21:20,148 --> 00:21:23,020
- So they interrupt him
and they literally
411
00:21:23,064 --> 00:21:26,067
slap $20 on his desk and said,
"You and me at the range now.
412
00:21:26,110 --> 00:21:28,678
And I bet you that $20,
5 targets out of 5,
I can beat you."
413
00:21:28,722 --> 00:21:30,637
- And what was Hanssen's
reaction to that?
414
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,639
Because now you're picking
him up and you're like,
"Let's go, Sparky."
415
00:21:32,682 --> 00:21:35,424
- So now he's mad. He grabs his
ear protection, eye protection,
416
00:21:35,468 --> 00:21:38,558
he holsters his firearm,
he gets up and he stumbles off
after them.
417
00:21:38,601 --> 00:21:40,908
And for the first time,
he forgets that Palm Pilot.
418
00:21:42,997 --> 00:21:46,043
- We knew Hanssen had
a lot of interest in guns
and weapons like that.
419
00:21:46,087 --> 00:21:48,524
And he always
wanted to challenge me
in the shooting competition
420
00:21:48,568 --> 00:21:51,353
because he figured that
he's got to do something
421
00:21:51,397 --> 00:21:53,877
to show
that he's superior to me.
422
00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:00,144
- So he's out of the office.
423
00:22:09,284 --> 00:22:11,068
What are you up to?
424
00:22:11,112 --> 00:22:15,159
- The Palm Pilot was in his bag,
right? It was a Palm 3X.
425
00:22:15,203 --> 00:22:16,596
- Wow.
426
00:22:16,639 --> 00:22:17,945
- I go to his bag.
427
00:22:17,988 --> 00:22:19,468
There are four
identical pockets.
428
00:22:19,512 --> 00:22:22,079
I open all four
and I find the PalmPilot,
429
00:22:22,123 --> 00:22:24,778
but I also find
a data card and a floppy disk.
430
00:22:24,821 --> 00:22:27,041
Remember, we're going back
to 2001 at this point.
- Oh, yeah.
431
00:22:27,084 --> 00:22:29,348
- My heart is pounding.
I'm really excited.
432
00:22:29,391 --> 00:22:31,132
I really wanted
to get this thing.
433
00:22:31,175 --> 00:22:33,700
I believe that the information
we wanted was on it.
434
00:22:33,743 --> 00:22:37,268
So I just grabbed all three
things, decided I don't have
a lot of time,
435
00:22:37,312 --> 00:22:40,663
ran down three flights of stairs
where Rich had set up
a tech room
436
00:22:40,707 --> 00:22:44,406
where these computer techs
were just ready for
whatever I brought down,
437
00:22:44,450 --> 00:22:46,103
any level of encryption.
438
00:22:47,191 --> 00:22:50,412
They hooked up the devices
and said, "Yes, it is encrypted.
439
00:22:50,456 --> 00:22:52,632
We're just going to copy it now
440
00:22:52,675 --> 00:22:54,329
and we'll break
the encryption later."
441
00:22:54,373 --> 00:22:56,113
- Right.
- I could literally see
442
00:22:56,157 --> 00:22:57,506
they're using a program
called Norton Ghost.
443
00:22:57,550 --> 00:23:00,944
They're cloning it.
And I see the 83%.
444
00:23:00,988 --> 00:23:03,425
And I get a text
on my pager saying
445
00:23:03,469 --> 00:23:06,080
'out of pocket coming to you'.
446
00:23:08,474 --> 00:23:10,084
They kick me out of the room.
447
00:23:10,127 --> 00:23:11,999
They're like,
"You're disrupting us."
448
00:23:12,042 --> 00:23:15,698
So I knock on the door.
I'm like, "I'm going to
need those devices."
449
00:23:15,742 --> 00:23:17,787
And they're like,
"We're almost done."
450
00:23:17,831 --> 00:23:21,312
I said, "You don't understand.
He's armed. I'm not. He's angry.
451
00:23:22,183 --> 00:23:24,881
And if I don't get up there
before him, he's going
to shoot me!"
452
00:23:30,191 --> 00:23:33,063
Next time
on FBI True.
453
00:23:33,107 --> 00:23:36,676
- This wasn't just a spy.
It was the spy.
454
00:23:37,459 --> 00:23:41,898
- The information that he gave
caused irreparable damage
to the US government.
455
00:23:41,942 --> 00:23:44,684
- This is a big case.
There is no getting out.
456
00:23:44,727 --> 00:23:49,428
- He caused the death of three
sources by giving up their
identities.
457
00:23:49,471 --> 00:23:52,953
He did leave a mark
on the Foxstone Park sign
458
00:23:52,996 --> 00:23:55,912
to let the Russians know
that he's made a drop.
459
00:23:55,956 --> 00:23:58,393
- If Hanssen determines
that you betrayed him,
460
00:23:58,437 --> 00:24:00,482
he would commit
violence against you.
461
00:24:00,526 --> 00:24:03,180
- He grabs me by the lapel.
He lifts me up onto my toes.
462
00:24:03,224 --> 00:24:06,009
- Did he have a weapon on him?
Would he try to use it?
463
00:24:06,053 --> 00:24:07,533
- There's no way
I got this right.
464
00:24:07,576 --> 00:24:09,056
The odds are impossible.
465
00:24:13,539 --> 00:24:16,455
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