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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,410 --> 00:00:12,644 Okay. Come back even further. 2 00:00:12,812 --> 00:00:15,481 Come back much fur-- Swing left. 3 00:00:17,550 --> 00:00:20,753 And stop. Okay. 4 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,821 MAN 1: I don't know what's going on here. 5 00:00:22,989 --> 00:00:24,890 Yeah, it's not gonna be anywhere near far enough. 6 00:00:25,058 --> 00:00:26,225 They're gonna be right here. 7 00:00:26,393 --> 00:00:28,027 I need to get the camera back about here. 8 00:00:28,194 --> 00:00:30,462 MAN 2: We'll have to find a search lamp. MAN 3: Okay. 9 00:00:30,630 --> 00:00:34,933 I think we started shooting October 2006, something like that. 10 00:00:35,101 --> 00:00:37,903 We wrapped May of 2007. 11 00:00:38,071 --> 00:00:41,340 WAGNER: It's 145 days. Longer than Zodiac by 32 days. 12 00:00:41,508 --> 00:00:46,779 It was eight days longer than Fight Club. 13 00:00:46,946 --> 00:00:50,215 But it was less than Panic Room. But Panic Room is a different story. 14 00:00:51,117 --> 00:00:54,787 Not only are we talking 200 locations, we're also talking a change... 15 00:00:54,954 --> 00:00:57,022 ...from turn of the century to present day. 16 00:00:57,190 --> 00:00:59,691 Show me what you want. I'm gonna figure out what we can do. 17 00:00:59,859 --> 00:01:02,127 FINCHER: Anyway, that's what we're doing for the train. 18 00:01:02,295 --> 00:01:04,630 So these cars go down how many? How many do you want? 19 00:01:04,798 --> 00:01:07,399 It's.... Uh.... Twelve. 20 00:01:07,567 --> 00:01:10,169 Anytime you take a movie that transcends that kind of time span... 21 00:01:10,336 --> 00:01:14,640 ...those kinds of cities and locations, you know it's gonna be big. 22 00:01:14,974 --> 00:01:16,141 Put them down. 23 00:01:16,309 --> 00:01:20,979 WAGNER: But with David, he's not a guy who wants to work 19 hours. 24 00:01:21,147 --> 00:01:23,849 He knows that you get to a point of diminishing returns. 25 00:01:24,017 --> 00:01:26,351 So if he can do 140 days... 26 00:01:26,519 --> 00:01:29,555 ...and they're 11-hour days or 12-hour days, it-- 27 00:01:29,722 --> 00:01:32,658 You start doing the math, and you start crunching the numbers... 28 00:01:32,826 --> 00:01:34,693 ...and you're doing a 90-day or 100-day shoot... 29 00:01:34,861 --> 00:01:37,229 ...and you're working 15, 16, 17 hours... 30 00:01:37,397 --> 00:01:39,965 ...it's almost the "Peter pays Paul," you know, principle. 31 00:01:40,133 --> 00:01:42,334 And it's a wash. 32 00:01:43,002 --> 00:01:46,438 For me, there's the beginning, then middle, then the end. 33 00:01:46,606 --> 00:01:49,808 So the time didn't feel arduous in any way. 34 00:01:49,976 --> 00:01:51,543 Cutting. 35 00:01:56,382 --> 00:02:00,519 Let's walk through and say, "Gas mask." And I’ll have them raise their hand. 36 00:02:00,687 --> 00:02:01,720 We'll get them masked up. 37 00:02:01,888 --> 00:02:03,922 KUPETSKY: Okay, background. Everybody look this way. 38 00:02:04,090 --> 00:02:08,260 We're gonna just walk through and assign gas masks to certain people. 39 00:02:08,428 --> 00:02:10,963 Remember that, because I'm gonna ask the people with gas masks... 40 00:02:11,131 --> 00:02:13,265 ...to raise their hands so we can mask them up, okay? 41 00:02:13,433 --> 00:02:15,968 Just walk through and say, "Gas mask, gas mask," okay? 42 00:02:16,369 --> 00:02:18,036 WEST: All right. KUPETSKY: Go ahead. 43 00:02:18,471 --> 00:02:21,340 Make sure you mention to Props if you have a gas mask, okay? 44 00:02:21,508 --> 00:02:22,708 That you were just assigned. 45 00:02:23,143 --> 00:02:26,745 So your gun-- You wanna make sure your gun-- In real life... 46 00:02:26,913 --> 00:02:29,214 ...doesn't hit the mud, and the muzzle doesn't get clogged. 47 00:02:29,382 --> 00:02:33,085 If you have to shoot at somebody, and you got a gun that won't fire, you're gonna die. 48 00:02:33,253 --> 00:02:36,188 WEST: You do it with your stunt guys-- -I’ll handle it for you. Yes, ma'am. 49 00:02:36,356 --> 00:02:38,757 WEST: By what they're doing. I don't want anyone to get hurt. 50 00:02:38,925 --> 00:02:41,326 Yeah. It’s good that they have the visions hit the bombs. 51 00:02:41,494 --> 00:02:42,828 -I know. -And they'll fog up. 52 00:02:42,996 --> 00:02:44,897 -Yeah. -But we'll get plenty of gas masks out. 53 00:02:45,064 --> 00:02:47,032 -That sounds good. -Okay. I'm sorry, Hope. 54 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,202 Did he get a--? He could use a gas mask, this guy right here. 55 00:02:50,370 --> 00:02:52,271 MAN 1: Here we go. MAN 2: Okay. 56 00:02:52,438 --> 00:02:54,773 MAN 1: Ready and action. 57 00:02:54,941 --> 00:02:56,909 [GUNFIRE] 58 00:03:03,850 --> 00:03:06,151 DALTON: David's very particular in what he wants. 59 00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:08,353 So you need to be able to give him multiple takes... 60 00:03:08,521 --> 00:03:10,956 ...so he can get those nuances he needs to make it just right. 61 00:03:11,124 --> 00:03:12,357 MAN: Way to stay with it. 62 00:03:12,525 --> 00:03:16,295 So even though it's a flashback sequence, we still needed to have 20 takes available... 63 00:03:16,462 --> 00:03:18,664 ...that we could do one right after the other. 64 00:03:18,831 --> 00:03:23,268 So to be able to build a couple-acre set that has this many soldiers running across... 65 00:03:23,436 --> 00:03:26,772 ...that have 20 explosions and 20 takes... 66 00:03:26,940 --> 00:03:29,641 ...and have it all, be able to do it in one day, becomes a challenge. 67 00:03:30,210 --> 00:03:31,777 MAN 1: And roll it. -Hold on. 68 00:03:32,712 --> 00:03:35,447 MAN 2: Ready. And action! 69 00:03:35,615 --> 00:03:37,616 [YELLING] 70 00:03:40,486 --> 00:03:42,387 DALTON: Our actors were three, four feet away... 71 00:03:42,555 --> 00:03:44,056 ...when the explosions were going off. 72 00:03:44,224 --> 00:03:45,557 So we built every one of these... 73 00:03:45,725 --> 00:03:48,794 ...into the ground in mortar, so we could control where the debris went. 74 00:03:48,962 --> 00:03:52,164 Using all lightweight materials, hand wrapping our own lifters... 75 00:03:52,332 --> 00:03:53,799 ...and using just a flash of light... 76 00:03:53,967 --> 00:03:57,002 ...as opposed to using liquids like flammable gas... 77 00:03:57,170 --> 00:04:00,339 ...or any of the other combinations where you could get someone hurt or burned. 78 00:04:00,506 --> 00:04:03,709 To simulate the look, but still get the action. 79 00:04:03,876 --> 00:04:07,012 MAN: These are our two mortar beds which we are responsible for, C and D. 80 00:04:07,180 --> 00:04:10,349 And that's the layout for each individual mortar in the bed. 81 00:04:10,516 --> 00:04:12,818 And this is a layout of the whole field. 82 00:04:12,986 --> 00:04:16,622 This is where our two beds are, in correlation to the other. 83 00:04:17,790 --> 00:04:20,092 DALTON: In between myself and the stunt coordinator... 84 00:04:20,260 --> 00:04:22,861 ...we had to work out where the entire crowd of soldiers... 85 00:04:23,029 --> 00:04:25,464 ...some extras and some stuntpeople, could run through this... 86 00:04:25,632 --> 00:04:28,433 ...with never stepping on where our explosions were going to be. 87 00:04:28,601 --> 00:04:31,703 And having them go off at exact points for certain soldiers. 88 00:04:31,871 --> 00:04:35,340 Certain individuals were supposed to be hit at certain times, at certain cues... 89 00:04:35,508 --> 00:04:37,442 ...while the camera's on the move in a trench... 90 00:04:37,610 --> 00:04:39,411 ...so we could have camera at ground height. 91 00:04:39,579 --> 00:04:41,947 So it was a very well choreographed sequence... 92 00:04:42,115 --> 00:04:44,082 ...very well thought out. 93 00:04:44,350 --> 00:04:45,751 And all went real well. 94 00:04:45,918 --> 00:04:47,586 MAN: Thank you very much. A great hand. 95 00:04:47,754 --> 00:04:49,888 How about a good round of applause for our stuntmen... 96 00:04:50,056 --> 00:04:51,523 ...and our special-effects guys? 97 00:04:51,691 --> 00:04:52,991 [PEOPLE WHOOPING AND CLAPPING] 98 00:04:53,926 --> 00:04:56,962 BURT: You know, when you do a film that's period and realistic... 99 00:04:57,130 --> 00:04:59,665 ...in terms of sets and settings, you don't wanna do something... 100 00:04:59,832 --> 00:05:03,168 ...that overtakes the characters in the story. 101 00:05:03,336 --> 00:05:06,838 But you wanna do something that supports them. That's what I see my job as. 102 00:05:07,006 --> 00:05:10,008 We talked about doing flats down the walkway. 103 00:05:10,176 --> 00:05:11,476 Okay, where is our bench? 104 00:05:11,644 --> 00:05:14,980 BURT: This is what we were gonna do on the exterior. 105 00:05:15,148 --> 00:05:16,648 Already ventral sconces there... 106 00:05:16,816 --> 00:05:19,618 ...and maybe something just right up above on the capped ceiling there. 107 00:05:19,786 --> 00:05:21,820 There's so many other elements into expressing that. 108 00:05:21,988 --> 00:05:24,523 It's where the camera is placed, what lens is used... 109 00:05:24,691 --> 00:05:27,626 ...what they see in the room, how much set dressing is left in the room... 110 00:05:27,794 --> 00:05:29,094 ...how much isn't, you know. 111 00:05:29,262 --> 00:05:31,463 A room can feel lonely with one or two pieces. 112 00:05:31,631 --> 00:05:36,301 There are many things that contribute to it. The lighting and the actors. 113 00:05:36,469 --> 00:05:38,236 Yeah, so we bring him in here... 114 00:05:38,404 --> 00:05:41,440 ...bring him in here, and he goes this way, and then he walks along here... 115 00:05:41,607 --> 00:05:44,176 ...and then he stops, and he goes through that door. 116 00:05:44,344 --> 00:05:47,879 And he comes in, and this is her place. 117 00:05:48,047 --> 00:05:50,582 BURT: It's one of many elements, and that's what's so fun... 118 00:05:50,750 --> 00:05:53,318 ...about filmmaking, I think, is that, you know, in the end... 119 00:05:53,486 --> 00:05:55,053 ...when you see the film, you go, wow. 120 00:05:55,221 --> 00:05:57,756 You know, all those pieces came together. 121 00:05:59,926 --> 00:06:01,360 The interior of the train station... 122 00:06:01,527 --> 00:06:05,163 ...that was a build with a blue screen for set extension... 123 00:06:05,331 --> 00:06:07,532 ...CG set extension. 124 00:06:08,534 --> 00:06:11,536 We researched train stations, in general, of that period... 125 00:06:11,704 --> 00:06:15,574 ...and we combined some different elements that we felt comfortable with... 126 00:06:15,742 --> 00:06:18,543 ...that sort of evoked the feeling that we wanted to present. 127 00:06:18,711 --> 00:06:20,245 And roll, please. 128 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,280 GATEAU: I hope you enjoy my clock. 129 00:06:22,448 --> 00:06:24,383 -That's it. -Curtain. 130 00:06:26,552 --> 00:06:28,553 [CROWD CLAPPING] 131 00:06:29,622 --> 00:06:32,424 BURT: We looked at period clocks, in particular, French period clocks... 132 00:06:32,592 --> 00:06:35,360 ...because the clockmaker, himself, was French. 133 00:06:35,528 --> 00:06:38,130 And we felt that there should be some sort of influence to it. 134 00:06:38,297 --> 00:06:39,498 But again, it was a process... 135 00:06:39,665 --> 00:06:43,368 ...of drawing up several hundred, probably, different clocks... 136 00:06:43,536 --> 00:06:46,705 ...and sort of, you know, fine-tuning what we wanted it to look like. 137 00:06:47,106 --> 00:06:50,208 And make it as wide as you can. 138 00:06:51,177 --> 00:06:52,611 MAN 1: Okay. MAN 2: Okay, here we go. 139 00:06:53,513 --> 00:06:56,114 -It’s running backwards! MAN 3: Earl, let me see your point. 140 00:06:56,716 --> 00:06:59,785 -I’m pointing at the banner. MAN 3: Okay, a little lower. 141 00:07:00,386 --> 00:07:01,420 It's running backwards! 142 00:07:01,587 --> 00:07:02,821 MAN 3: There. MAN 4: Better. 143 00:07:02,989 --> 00:07:07,292 Yep. Let me present how shooting is compromised. 144 00:07:07,460 --> 00:07:09,728 Because we could get a little glint in the glasses. 145 00:07:09,896 --> 00:07:12,364 We could get just a little liner. We could do all these things. 146 00:07:12,532 --> 00:07:14,099 And we just never have time. 147 00:07:14,367 --> 00:07:16,735 MAN 5: But, you know, the broad brushstrokes are right. 148 00:07:16,903 --> 00:07:19,504 That looks nice. That was nice. 149 00:07:20,406 --> 00:07:22,073 Flash. 150 00:07:23,342 --> 00:07:24,376 MAN 6: Okay, here we go. 151 00:07:24,544 --> 00:07:26,545 [CHEERING] 152 00:07:30,616 --> 00:07:33,718 DALTON: One of the things we had to make look real in the film were... 153 00:07:33,886 --> 00:07:35,987 ...the period fireworks, 1917, Armistice Day. 154 00:07:36,155 --> 00:07:38,990 So we're trying to do fireworks in a town that's built out of wood. 155 00:07:39,158 --> 00:07:41,660 Where they don't want any flame, any spark of any kind. 156 00:07:42,295 --> 00:07:46,598 So we went out and tried to find the most period realistic. 157 00:07:46,766 --> 00:07:49,000 They still make some of the same kinds of fireworks... 158 00:07:49,168 --> 00:07:50,969 ...they did at the turn of the century. 159 00:07:51,137 --> 00:07:54,406 We were gonna try and do additional fireworks, actual mortar bursts into the air... 160 00:07:54,574 --> 00:07:58,610 ...but the Historical Society of New Orleans said: "Not over our wood city." 161 00:07:58,778 --> 00:07:59,978 So all that's gonna be CG. 162 00:08:00,446 --> 00:08:04,282 So basically, we have Roman candles ready. You'll hear it on the "action." 163 00:08:04,450 --> 00:08:06,585 Repeat after "action." 164 00:08:07,687 --> 00:08:09,354 Action, Roman candle. 165 00:08:09,722 --> 00:08:11,156 MAN: Action! 166 00:08:11,324 --> 00:08:13,325 [CHEERING] 167 00:08:15,728 --> 00:08:18,029 WAGNER: With this too, it was a period movie... 168 00:08:18,197 --> 00:08:20,632 ...so that means wigs for all the extras... 169 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,837 ...and haircuts and mustaches and fittings and, you know, cars, 1919 cars. 170 00:08:26,005 --> 00:08:27,772 They didn't have cooling systems... 171 00:08:28,074 --> 00:08:30,108 ...so they would overheat in the middle of the shot. 172 00:08:30,443 --> 00:08:33,612 And you'd run up to an extra and say, "Don't stop and, like, look at the camera. 173 00:08:33,779 --> 00:08:35,747 Act like you're driving and your car overheated... 174 00:08:35,915 --> 00:08:38,416 ...and get out and keep it going until you hear 'cut."' 175 00:08:38,584 --> 00:08:40,619 -You know, stay in that moment. MAN: Background. 176 00:08:40,786 --> 00:08:42,687 [CHEERING] 177 00:08:42,855 --> 00:08:46,291 WAGNER: Extras tend to do silent-film acting, really, just over the top. 178 00:08:46,459 --> 00:08:50,195 And you finally just tell them, you know, "Hey, guys, less is more, less is more." 179 00:08:50,363 --> 00:08:52,163 And with David, you know, you're on take 15... 180 00:08:52,331 --> 00:08:54,766 ...and they're bored already, and that's when it's genuine. 181 00:08:54,934 --> 00:08:58,904 Take one and two, they're all smiles and happy and overacting. 182 00:08:59,071 --> 00:09:01,039 U.S.A., baby. Whoo! 183 00:09:01,207 --> 00:09:04,276 But then you get to take 15 and 16, and it's been beaten out of them... 184 00:09:04,443 --> 00:09:05,944 ...and they're good. 185 00:09:06,746 --> 00:09:08,246 Do it again. 186 00:09:12,118 --> 00:09:14,753 -You beat them off with the baby. -Oh, did I? 187 00:09:14,921 --> 00:09:16,688 "Get out of my way, out of my way." 188 00:09:16,856 --> 00:09:18,456 FLEMYNG: "I've got an ugly baby." 189 00:09:18,624 --> 00:09:20,258 FINCHER: It's kind of great. 190 00:09:21,294 --> 00:09:23,461 Bob, make Ashley run a little bit more crazy... 191 00:09:23,629 --> 00:09:25,630 ...like just going through people. I just need to-- 192 00:09:25,798 --> 00:09:29,067 His shadow's not spectacular enough for Jason. 193 00:09:29,235 --> 00:09:32,470 FLEMYNG: I had met Fincher and Ceán socially through Brad... 194 00:09:32,638 --> 00:09:34,573 ...because I met Brad during Snatch. 195 00:09:34,740 --> 00:09:36,775 Uh, you know.... 196 00:09:36,943 --> 00:09:40,011 And he's Fincher and Brad's Brad, and they're pretty good at what they do. 197 00:09:40,179 --> 00:09:43,281 And I was just this kind of English guy that Brad knew, who was an actor. 198 00:09:43,449 --> 00:09:46,284 So I sort of found a script, got hold of a script... 199 00:09:46,452 --> 00:09:49,287 ...and put myself on tape for it and sent it out to Fincher, because I-- 200 00:09:49,455 --> 00:09:51,890 Honest truth, I didn't think I’d get a chance to get the part. 201 00:09:52,058 --> 00:09:55,327 But I just wanted him to know that I could act and that that's what I did. 202 00:09:55,494 --> 00:09:57,228 Rather than just be that English bloke... 203 00:09:57,396 --> 00:09:59,230 ...who's at those dinners, who drank too much. 204 00:09:59,398 --> 00:10:02,400 And so he looked at it, and he asked me to come out and see him. 205 00:10:02,568 --> 00:10:05,270 I kind of knew that the studios wouldn't necessarily be interested... 206 00:10:05,438 --> 00:10:06,504 ...in me playing that part. 207 00:10:06,672 --> 00:10:08,406 When I came out, I knew he'd have my back... 208 00:10:08,574 --> 00:10:10,108 ...as much as he could as a friend. 209 00:10:10,276 --> 00:10:12,744 I thought he was going to instruct me about what I had to do... 210 00:10:12,912 --> 00:10:15,213 ...in order to have a chance of getting the part. 211 00:10:15,381 --> 00:10:18,149 I was chatting away to him. We were here, and he took me through the-- 212 00:10:18,317 --> 00:10:21,119 It was like, "Come and have a look at what you could've won," you know? 213 00:10:21,287 --> 00:10:23,488 He took me through all the designs and through props... 214 00:10:23,656 --> 00:10:26,558 ...and showing me pictures of the sets and Lake Pontchartrain. 215 00:10:26,726 --> 00:10:29,160 And I was just, in my head, going, "This is agony. 216 00:10:29,328 --> 00:10:31,096 This is agony. It's making it worse." 217 00:10:31,263 --> 00:10:32,864 MAN 1: We'll step back, pull in the bag. 218 00:10:33,032 --> 00:10:35,000 MAN 2: Flemyng, you're starting on the other side. 219 00:10:35,167 --> 00:10:36,601 You're left to right, dude. 220 00:10:36,769 --> 00:10:39,170 FLEMYNG: At the end of the day-- We spent 6 hours together. 221 00:10:39,338 --> 00:10:42,841 At the end of the day, I said, "David, what do I have to do to improve my chances?" 222 00:10:43,009 --> 00:10:45,877 And he went, "Oh, no, you got the part." I was like: Ah. 223 00:10:46,312 --> 00:10:50,115 So that's what happened. And it's been an incredible ride. 224 00:10:50,282 --> 00:10:53,718 I got involved when I didn't know I was getting involved, um. 225 00:10:53,886 --> 00:10:57,522 Laray Mayfield, apparently, had gone to see Hustle and Flow. 226 00:10:57,690 --> 00:11:00,058 And, um, she called David Fincher. 227 00:11:00,226 --> 00:11:03,428 I think at that time the project wasn't even green-lit yet. 228 00:11:03,596 --> 00:11:05,764 She calls David Fincher in the middle of the film... 229 00:11:05,931 --> 00:11:07,332 ...and she says, "I found Queenie." 230 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:10,001 This is all happening while I’m at home poor... 231 00:11:10,169 --> 00:11:12,837 ...and, you know, without a job, thinking it's the end of the world. 232 00:11:13,372 --> 00:11:16,641 And I’m having this huge garage sale. My agent calls, and she's like: 233 00:11:16,809 --> 00:11:19,611 "You have to go in tomorrow and meet Fincher." It’s on a Saturday. 234 00:11:19,779 --> 00:11:22,914 I'm like, "Well I'm having a garage sale. How do I...?" Heh, heh. 235 00:11:23,082 --> 00:11:26,384 I'm no idiot. You know, David Fincher, garage sale, come on. 236 00:11:26,752 --> 00:11:29,788 So I go in. I'm like, "Okay, who are the usual suspects... 237 00:11:29,955 --> 00:11:31,589 ...I’m gonna see in the waiting room?" 238 00:11:31,757 --> 00:11:35,593 Nobody. It's just me. She takes me right into David Fincher. 239 00:11:35,761 --> 00:11:39,230 And I read it a couple times. He and I basically chitchat. 240 00:11:39,398 --> 00:11:41,399 And after I finish the last scene, he's like: 241 00:11:41,567 --> 00:11:43,968 "So have you ever been in prosthetics before?" 242 00:11:44,136 --> 00:11:47,038 So in my mind I’m trying not to lose it, because I’m like: 243 00:11:47,206 --> 00:11:50,608 "Okay, is he telling me I got the job?" 244 00:11:50,776 --> 00:11:53,378 Apparently, um, he was. 245 00:11:53,546 --> 00:11:55,780 You know what I mean? It was just something that I said. 246 00:11:55,948 --> 00:11:59,884 CANNOM: It’s interesting. I talked to somebody 15, 20 years ago about it. 247 00:12:00,052 --> 00:12:02,921 They were talking about another big actor at the time. 248 00:12:03,089 --> 00:12:07,625 I read the script, and I was just like, you know: 249 00:12:07,793 --> 00:12:09,594 "How can you build all this stuff? 250 00:12:09,762 --> 00:12:12,130 How are you gonna do somebody... 251 00:12:12,298 --> 00:12:16,101 ...76 years old, you know, three, four feet high? 252 00:12:16,268 --> 00:12:17,535 And the actor and match it all?" 253 00:12:17,703 --> 00:12:20,772 And it never happened, because you just couldn't pull it off. 254 00:12:20,940 --> 00:12:23,875 So it's pretty amazing that after all these years... 255 00:12:24,043 --> 00:12:27,212 ...and now, with the technology, it was the perfect time. 256 00:12:27,379 --> 00:12:29,848 It's the type of film you can't turn down no matter what. 257 00:12:30,015 --> 00:12:33,051 And it's the biggest film I've ever done, makeup-wise. 258 00:12:33,219 --> 00:12:36,121 We did a mechanical baby, which is used in the beginning of the film... 259 00:12:36,288 --> 00:12:38,022 ...when he's a new young born. 260 00:12:38,190 --> 00:12:40,792 And my idea was to do it like a shar-pei dog. 261 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,328 We did all these little shar-pei wrinkles all over him... 262 00:12:43,496 --> 00:12:45,730 ...and put age spots on him, and it was really fun. 263 00:12:46,031 --> 00:12:48,099 HENSON: I remember when I was doing my makeup test... 264 00:12:48,267 --> 00:12:49,968 ...they were building the animatronic baby. 265 00:12:50,136 --> 00:12:52,170 And I remember I said, "I wanna see this baby." 266 00:12:52,338 --> 00:12:53,404 Because I like to see... 267 00:12:53,572 --> 00:12:56,508 ...so I can really fall in love with what I'm gonna be working with... 268 00:12:56,675 --> 00:12:58,910 ...since it's not gonna be a human or a real baby. 269 00:12:59,078 --> 00:13:00,879 They have the baby sitting on a pole... 270 00:13:01,046 --> 00:13:04,549 ...and the pole is, like, in the baby's rectum. That's like, "Wait a minute." 271 00:13:04,717 --> 00:13:06,885 Then I walk around the table, and I see the face... 272 00:13:07,052 --> 00:13:11,055 ...and I’m like, "Oh, this thing is ugly." Like that's-- It was just-- 273 00:13:11,223 --> 00:13:12,490 It was hideous. 274 00:13:12,658 --> 00:13:15,293 And every day I would go back, just so I could attach. 275 00:13:15,461 --> 00:13:17,762 And the more and more I looked at the baby... 276 00:13:17,930 --> 00:13:20,398 ...the more and more it started to look cute. 277 00:13:20,566 --> 00:13:23,001 And I guess it's so ugly that it's cute. 278 00:13:23,202 --> 00:13:25,703 You know those little fish with the big eyes, and you're like-- 279 00:13:25,871 --> 00:13:27,605 After a while, you're like, "Oh, he's cute." 280 00:13:27,773 --> 00:13:29,107 [LAUGHS] 281 00:13:32,845 --> 00:13:34,579 MAN 1: That does look like Brad, doesn't it? 282 00:13:34,747 --> 00:13:36,314 -From the bellybutton down. MAN 1: Yeah. 283 00:13:36,482 --> 00:13:37,749 Okay, um. 284 00:13:37,917 --> 00:13:38,950 So what lens is that? 285 00:13:39,118 --> 00:13:40,819 MAN 2: That's a 21. 286 00:13:40,986 --> 00:13:42,353 -Go to a 20. MAN 1: Okay. 287 00:13:42,521 --> 00:13:45,790 FINCHER: So we need to take a little bit of the sheen out of the forehead. 288 00:13:45,958 --> 00:13:47,692 Just a teeny bit. It's just a little much. 289 00:13:47,860 --> 00:13:50,461 Yeah, we need to add a little bit in here and a little bit here. 290 00:13:50,629 --> 00:13:53,498 And then we need to take this out, because this is too wet-looking. 291 00:13:56,335 --> 00:13:58,036 MAN 3: There you go. MAN 4: And action. 292 00:14:00,139 --> 00:14:03,708 DOCTOR: He shows all the deterioration, the infirmities not of a newborn... 293 00:14:03,876 --> 00:14:07,011 ...but a man well in his 80s on the way to his grave. 294 00:14:07,179 --> 00:14:11,783 HENSON: This script, to me, is the ultimate meaning of unconditional love. 295 00:14:12,251 --> 00:14:14,619 And that's a gift from God that we have. 296 00:14:14,787 --> 00:14:19,490 That's basically what we're put on this planet Earth to do, is to give love. 297 00:14:19,658 --> 00:14:21,759 At the end of our cycle, what do you do? 298 00:14:21,927 --> 00:14:24,996 You move on from the flesh, so that's life. 299 00:14:25,164 --> 00:14:30,134 But I think the best part of life is loving as much as you can while you're living. 300 00:14:30,302 --> 00:14:32,136 MAN 1: Cut it. MAN 2: Nice work, guys. 301 00:14:32,304 --> 00:14:34,906 MAN 3: Good, good, good. MAN 4: Okay, now we unpack it. 302 00:14:36,842 --> 00:14:39,377 MIRANDA: I was the first one that did the Viper stuff with David. 303 00:14:39,545 --> 00:14:40,879 And we started with a Libra. 304 00:14:41,046 --> 00:14:44,082 It was the first spot that we did, and I tested the camera. 305 00:14:44,250 --> 00:14:45,283 And, um.... 306 00:14:45,451 --> 00:14:48,620 Then we did a bunch after that, though. The Heineken beer on spots. 307 00:14:48,787 --> 00:14:49,821 MAN: Roll. 308 00:14:49,989 --> 00:14:51,489 MAVROMATES: David has used the Viper for... 309 00:14:51,657 --> 00:14:54,058 ...going on four years now, probably, with this commercial-- 310 00:14:54,226 --> 00:14:57,862 It's a tool that he really knows very well. It has been very dependable. 311 00:14:58,030 --> 00:15:02,500 It worked very well on Zodiac, and when it came to working on Benjamin Button-- 312 00:15:02,668 --> 00:15:05,169 We always revisit what we've used... 313 00:15:05,337 --> 00:15:08,673 ...and to see if there's anything, you know, greater out there, anything better... 314 00:15:08,841 --> 00:15:11,209 ...anything more unique that relates to the current project. 315 00:15:12,611 --> 00:15:16,514 Chin up. And then some intense acting. 316 00:15:16,682 --> 00:15:19,217 Surprise, and laughter. 317 00:15:19,385 --> 00:15:21,352 -Cut it. All right, good. MAN: Good. 318 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,222 MIRANDA: We were trying to shoot 4K, so we looked at the Dalsa. 319 00:15:24,390 --> 00:15:27,792 The Red wasn't ready at the time. The D-20 wasn't ready as well. 320 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,894 I mean, we needed multiple cameras, you know. 321 00:15:30,062 --> 00:15:35,700 And so there was, like, one D-20 ready, so we didn't make that an option at all. 322 00:15:35,868 --> 00:15:38,169 MAVROMATES: We actually did go and test the Dalsa camera... 323 00:15:38,337 --> 00:15:40,305 ...which was still in some ways under development. 324 00:15:40,472 --> 00:15:42,307 And it still hasn't quite matured. 325 00:15:42,474 --> 00:15:44,676 But it was attractive in a few ways. 326 00:15:44,843 --> 00:15:46,711 One of them is that it had a larger file size. 327 00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:50,081 It was somewhere between 3K and 4K, depending on how you measure it... 328 00:15:50,249 --> 00:15:53,418 ...and what lenses you use and that sort of thing. That was one factor. 329 00:15:53,585 --> 00:15:56,788 The other thing that's different about the Dalsa is the sensor is larger. 330 00:15:56,956 --> 00:16:01,893 The Viper sensor is really almost the equivalent of shooting a 16mm movie. 331 00:16:02,061 --> 00:16:03,494 So that's a different look. 332 00:16:03,662 --> 00:16:04,696 MAN 1: Good, play it back. 333 00:16:04,863 --> 00:16:07,031 MAN 2: Check this out, it's looking pretty good. 334 00:16:07,199 --> 00:16:10,969 MIRANDA: Sometimes it's not about, like, 4K or 2K or 35 or two-thirds chip... 335 00:16:11,136 --> 00:16:13,037 ...it's actually, "How does it look in the end?" 336 00:16:13,205 --> 00:16:14,973 I think that's just kind of more important... 337 00:16:15,140 --> 00:16:17,342 ...and the Viper looked good, you know. 338 00:16:17,509 --> 00:16:20,378 So that was kind of-- You know, people are saying, like: 339 00:16:20,546 --> 00:16:21,779 "Oh, you should have shot Red." 340 00:16:21,947 --> 00:16:26,250 And I saw Red, and there was issues that were not.... 341 00:16:26,418 --> 00:16:29,687 That I need more latitude, you know, that was not presented there. 342 00:16:29,855 --> 00:16:33,257 Many factors came into the final decision for the Viper... 343 00:16:33,425 --> 00:16:36,227 ...but probably the one that was the tipping point... 344 00:16:36,395 --> 00:16:38,162 ...is actually the familiarity with it... 345 00:16:38,330 --> 00:16:42,967 ...and that we had gotten so good at it on Zodiac. 346 00:16:43,135 --> 00:16:45,236 And David was still happy with the look of it... 347 00:16:45,404 --> 00:16:47,872 ...that there was not a great incentive to change that... 348 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:52,076 ...because, despite the size of the budget, the budget was extremely tight. 349 00:16:52,244 --> 00:16:54,412 And so that little margin of error... 350 00:16:54,580 --> 00:16:58,416 ...might be the difference of using a camera we know versus one that we don't know. 351 00:16:58,584 --> 00:17:01,686 Give it a little moment, because I wanna play it in a close-up of, like.... 352 00:17:01,854 --> 00:17:04,188 You go, "Is he gonna go bullshit for this whole thing?" 353 00:17:04,356 --> 00:17:06,357 Or then he kind of goes: Ha, ha, ha. 354 00:17:06,625 --> 00:17:08,226 God bless you. 355 00:17:08,394 --> 00:17:10,094 He's 7. 356 00:17:10,262 --> 00:17:14,999 In the revival tent, we were using these 60-watt old-fashioned bulbs. 357 00:17:15,167 --> 00:17:17,969 You know, that are from, like-- You know, the period-made gloves. 358 00:17:18,137 --> 00:17:19,837 Kind of the way they did in the old days. 359 00:17:20,005 --> 00:17:23,307 So okay, well, I'll let this room light itself with 60-watt bulbs. 360 00:17:23,475 --> 00:17:24,976 Should be no issue. 361 00:17:25,144 --> 00:17:27,345 I mean, I've never had issue on film before. 362 00:17:27,513 --> 00:17:29,380 But when I get there on the day... 363 00:17:29,548 --> 00:17:31,449 ...and it's too late for me to change anything... 364 00:17:31,617 --> 00:17:36,120 ...I go to the gaffer. I go, like, "Chris, are these all, you know, 100 percent?" 365 00:17:36,355 --> 00:17:38,156 Uh, heh.... 366 00:17:38,323 --> 00:17:41,092 And he goes, "Yeah, yeah, they're all 100 percent." 367 00:17:41,660 --> 00:17:44,095 "Shit, I don't have enough light." 368 00:17:44,696 --> 00:17:47,632 There's nothing I can do. This was the whole idea for lighting this thing. 369 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,867 It was like, you know, these bulbs light the scene... 370 00:17:50,035 --> 00:17:51,536 ...and we're calling it this. 371 00:17:51,703 --> 00:17:54,372 I don't do anything, anywhere. This is it. 372 00:17:54,940 --> 00:17:59,177 And, you know, pulled it out, running at about, like, 140 volts. 373 00:17:59,344 --> 00:18:01,813 Just trying to get every single ounce of light from this thing. 374 00:18:01,980 --> 00:18:04,482 I might even increased the shutter, open more from the 180... 375 00:18:04,650 --> 00:18:07,218 ...to the 230 or something like that. 376 00:18:07,386 --> 00:18:10,588 And I said, "Really, these are 60 watts?" 377 00:18:10,789 --> 00:18:14,158 You open them up. Normally, you could light a scene like that comfortably... 378 00:18:14,326 --> 00:18:17,395 ...with, like, 25 watts, you know, standard. 379 00:18:17,563 --> 00:18:20,031 I mean, you'd be totally fine, but that one was just-- 380 00:18:20,199 --> 00:18:22,467 That was a little bit of a, "Oh, God." 381 00:18:22,634 --> 00:18:26,637 I need you to pay a little bit more attention to this area of the room. 382 00:18:26,805 --> 00:18:30,274 Project into here, because it's so nice if we have you on both. 383 00:18:30,442 --> 00:18:33,911 You know, kind of looking over the congregation here. 384 00:18:34,079 --> 00:18:38,015 HENSON: The first day of shooting for me in New Orleans was the revival tent. 385 00:18:38,183 --> 00:18:42,920 And for some reason that day, it was extremely cold. 386 00:18:43,088 --> 00:18:46,090 The wind was whipping. I thought Katrina was back. 387 00:18:47,059 --> 00:18:50,528 Think I got sick that first day too, because it was so cold. 388 00:18:50,696 --> 00:18:52,597 So Lance, let's see pushing Taraji back... 389 00:18:52,764 --> 00:18:55,266 ...and let me just see Taraji fall. 390 00:18:56,235 --> 00:18:57,735 -Praise God! CROWD: Praise God! 391 00:18:57,903 --> 00:18:58,936 Hallelujah. 392 00:18:59,104 --> 00:19:00,972 FINCHER: "In the name of God's glory, rise up." 393 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:02,974 Forget the wheelchair. 394 00:19:03,142 --> 00:19:05,243 -He's gonna walk without anything. NICHOLS: Right. 395 00:19:05,410 --> 00:19:08,546 There's not gonna be-- It's not like he's gonna go from a wheelchair... 396 00:19:08,714 --> 00:19:10,148 ...to a crutch. No. 397 00:19:10,315 --> 00:19:14,218 We're gonna go-- We're gonna bypass that. We're going right to run. 398 00:19:14,386 --> 00:19:15,520 [CHEERING] 399 00:19:15,687 --> 00:19:18,589 Walk on. Yes. 400 00:19:18,757 --> 00:19:20,258 That's right, Benjamin. 401 00:19:20,425 --> 00:19:22,460 Let the Lord carry you. 402 00:19:22,628 --> 00:19:27,698 HENSON: I actually developed a certain love for each different stand-in. 403 00:19:27,866 --> 00:19:30,801 Which only helped when they superimposed Brad's face later... 404 00:19:30,969 --> 00:19:32,270 ...because it looks consistent. 405 00:19:32,437 --> 00:19:34,605 Hallelujah. 406 00:19:34,773 --> 00:19:35,940 [CROWD CHEERING THEN GASPS] 407 00:19:36,108 --> 00:19:37,375 [WOMEN GASP] 408 00:19:37,543 --> 00:19:41,412 I'm a mother, and my son is 14 now. 409 00:19:41,580 --> 00:19:42,980 So, you know, they have different-- 410 00:19:43,148 --> 00:19:45,516 You have different phases of your relationship. 411 00:19:45,684 --> 00:19:47,385 And that's just how it reads, you know. 412 00:19:47,553 --> 00:19:50,655 Because the shortest guy, Peter, I had a certain love for him. 413 00:19:50,822 --> 00:19:54,325 And then the next guy, Robert, when he came in, then it turned into something else. 414 00:19:54,493 --> 00:19:57,695 It reads, like, just a normal mother-son relationship. 415 00:19:57,863 --> 00:20:00,131 "When am I gonna die, Mama?" "Tomorrow. Now go to sleep." 416 00:20:00,299 --> 00:20:01,832 HENSON: You would never know that: 417 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,268 "Oh, she's acting opposite someone that's not Brad." 418 00:20:04,436 --> 00:20:08,306 FINCHER: Okay, and you're reaching up for comfort. And action. 419 00:20:09,308 --> 00:20:11,809 Too fast. Once again. 420 00:20:12,411 --> 00:20:15,112 And action. 421 00:20:16,915 --> 00:20:18,716 BADALAMENTI: It might be difficult for them... 422 00:20:18,884 --> 00:20:21,719 ...because you're looking at somebody like me, with nodes and blue dots. 423 00:20:21,887 --> 00:20:27,024 And if they were looking for available stimulus in some aspect like that... 424 00:20:27,192 --> 00:20:29,293 ...it might be confusing or dis-- 425 00:20:29,461 --> 00:20:33,064 You know, it might be irritating for them to look at or just funny. 426 00:20:33,232 --> 00:20:34,932 There you go. 427 00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:38,269 Okay, nope, eye line's too wide. Have him look right here. 428 00:20:38,437 --> 00:20:39,971 Just look at right here. 429 00:20:40,606 --> 00:20:42,306 DOYLE: One of the biggest issues we had... 430 00:20:42,474 --> 00:20:44,542 ...along the lines of a location manager's problem... 431 00:20:44,710 --> 00:20:46,877 ...is that this is a city that had 800 people... 432 00:20:47,045 --> 00:20:49,280 ...in their Public Works Department before the hurricane. 433 00:20:49,448 --> 00:20:54,185 And on November 15th, 2005, they had 14. 434 00:20:54,353 --> 00:20:56,988 Because they had zero tax base, and they couldn't pay them. 435 00:20:57,155 --> 00:21:00,358 So they, literally, laid off 700 people. 436 00:21:00,525 --> 00:21:03,995 So Public Works, for a location manager, you so rely on them. 437 00:21:04,162 --> 00:21:07,365 They're the people that deal with your street signs and all that other-- 438 00:21:07,532 --> 00:21:09,300 But I’m also dealing with a period picture. 439 00:21:09,468 --> 00:21:12,937 There's no parking meters and electronic parking kiosks... 440 00:21:13,105 --> 00:21:14,605 ...and those new cobra heads. 441 00:21:14,773 --> 00:21:17,241 These are all things that we would normally pay... 442 00:21:17,409 --> 00:21:19,744 ...a city's Public Works Department to remove. 443 00:21:19,911 --> 00:21:23,748 And we'd put up our fake things. Well, there is nobody to pay. 444 00:21:23,915 --> 00:21:27,485 So it was a huge problem. And it lasted straight through all of production. 445 00:21:27,653 --> 00:21:29,520 We would have to get our own contractors... 446 00:21:29,688 --> 00:21:31,989 ...some of them staffed by former Public Works workers. 447 00:21:32,157 --> 00:21:36,327 Doing as much as we can, so David had to do as little as possible in post. 448 00:21:36,495 --> 00:21:39,664 He already had so much to do in post, anyways, and visual effects. 449 00:21:39,831 --> 00:21:43,634 All right, let's clear. This is picture. Everybody clear, please. 450 00:21:44,403 --> 00:21:46,537 MAN 1: I’m ready. -The sun should hold for a minute. 451 00:21:46,705 --> 00:21:47,905 MAN 2: Thank you. Here we go. 452 00:21:48,907 --> 00:21:50,708 Officer Kauffman, lock it up, please. 453 00:21:50,876 --> 00:21:53,177 David, effects, you cool? 454 00:21:53,812 --> 00:21:57,114 DALTON: In the script, it has a simple scene calling for a trolley car. 455 00:21:57,282 --> 00:21:58,749 I go, "Great. They'll get a camera... 456 00:21:58,917 --> 00:22:01,619 ...they'll hop on the trolley car, I'll have a nice day." 457 00:22:01,787 --> 00:22:04,388 No way. Trolley cars were out of commission. 458 00:22:05,457 --> 00:22:08,025 DOYLE: The cantanary system was badly damaged in Katrina... 459 00:22:08,193 --> 00:22:10,328 ...and then it was finished off at Hurricane Rita... 460 00:22:10,495 --> 00:22:14,732 ...which had much higher winds that hit right there in the middle of New Orleans. 461 00:22:14,900 --> 00:22:16,500 So there was no running streetcar... 462 00:22:16,668 --> 00:22:18,969 ...in a movie that had five or six streetcar scenes. 463 00:22:19,137 --> 00:22:21,272 I mean, it's iconic for the city. 464 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,208 So there was another thing that the special-effects guys... 465 00:22:24,376 --> 00:22:27,578 ...and, in some part, the location team, but everyone, had to overcome. 466 00:22:28,847 --> 00:22:32,149 DALTON: So we had about a three-block sequence of a trolley car... 467 00:22:32,317 --> 00:22:35,086 ...that has to start, stop, run and take off... 468 00:22:35,253 --> 00:22:37,988 ...as if it was fully controlled by the overhead wires. 469 00:22:38,156 --> 00:22:41,559 DOYLE: We shut down three different crossovers on St. Charles Boulevard... 470 00:22:41,727 --> 00:22:43,894 ...and put cable down on the ground. 471 00:22:44,062 --> 00:22:46,897 So we could pull the streetcar back and forth in the shot. 472 00:22:47,065 --> 00:22:50,368 And they could stop it on a dime, like a ski lift. 473 00:22:50,535 --> 00:22:54,538 Which costs a lot more than just having the streetcar go by and do the shot. 474 00:22:55,607 --> 00:22:58,409 DALTON: We couldn't tow it with a vehicle, because it'd be in the shot. 475 00:22:58,577 --> 00:23:00,177 It would be hard to remove a tow vehicle. 476 00:23:00,345 --> 00:23:02,413 The camera watches it come into frame, cross frame... 477 00:23:02,581 --> 00:23:04,448 -...and then follow out of frame. -Roll, please. 478 00:23:04,616 --> 00:23:08,085 DALTON: So we ran about a 600-foot, half-inch cable through a pulley system... 479 00:23:08,253 --> 00:23:09,754 ...run by a hundred-horsepower motor. 480 00:23:10,122 --> 00:23:12,490 The cable car weighs about 45,000 pounds... 481 00:23:12,657 --> 00:23:14,892 ...and had to get going about 12 miles an hour. 482 00:23:15,060 --> 00:23:18,729 So you figure what it takes to start and stop this mass once it's moving... 483 00:23:18,897 --> 00:23:21,832 ...and to stop it within one foot of where our character's supposed to be. 484 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,703 He's supposed to be able to walk, lift his foot up, step onto it without a pause... 485 00:23:25,871 --> 00:23:28,506 ...not catch up to it, not walk back to it. 486 00:23:28,673 --> 00:23:30,808 And then have it take off again right away. 487 00:23:30,976 --> 00:23:35,513 So, uh, to build that whole system, just for that sequence... 488 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,014 ...was completely unexpected. 489 00:23:37,182 --> 00:23:41,752 I thought, "Well, heck, we'll just tell the trolley guy to run the trolley car." 490 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,687 Didn't happen. 491 00:23:47,993 --> 00:23:52,329 DOYLE: Back in the spring of 2005, before Katrina, David came out... 492 00:23:52,497 --> 00:23:55,766 ...specifically, to help pick out what was gonna be our main location. 493 00:24:01,907 --> 00:24:03,707 -Love this. MAN: Yeah, that's the old style. 494 00:24:03,875 --> 00:24:05,075 -That's what we want. MAN: Yep. 495 00:24:05,243 --> 00:24:07,411 DOYLE: We looked at examples. David liked them... 496 00:24:07,579 --> 00:24:11,749 ...but there was always one or two things wrong, and we literally... 497 00:24:11,917 --> 00:24:14,819 ...got in our car and drove around the Garden District. 498 00:24:15,020 --> 00:24:19,523 And, you know, he saw two or three houses that he wanted further investigation. 499 00:24:19,691 --> 00:24:22,693 And one of them was a house at 2707 Coliseum... 500 00:24:22,861 --> 00:24:24,829 ...intersection of 4th and Coliseum. 501 00:24:24,996 --> 00:24:27,898 We went up. We knocked on the door. There was nothing. 502 00:24:28,066 --> 00:24:30,835 You could see that really, nobody really lived in that place. 503 00:24:31,002 --> 00:24:33,637 There was furniture, but there were sheets over all the furniture. 504 00:24:33,805 --> 00:24:36,507 It was our mission to find out who owned it, how I can get into it... 505 00:24:36,675 --> 00:24:38,542 ...at least photograph it, to see if it'll work. 506 00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:40,377 And it ends up being Mrs. Nolan... 507 00:24:40,545 --> 00:24:42,646 ...who, through her husband's side of the family... 508 00:24:42,814 --> 00:24:45,516 ...had occupied that house since the 1870s. 509 00:24:45,684 --> 00:24:48,152 One of the longest contiguous single-family ownerships... 510 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,154 ...of one of the houses in the Garden District. 511 00:24:50,322 --> 00:24:53,390 She was in her 80s and had evacuated the house because of Katrina... 512 00:24:53,558 --> 00:24:54,925 ...and gone to Houston. 513 00:24:55,093 --> 00:24:56,293 So now, we chased her down... 514 00:24:56,461 --> 00:24:58,629 ...to her youngest daughter's house in Houston. 515 00:24:58,797 --> 00:25:01,765 And they were kind of hesitant. So that's when I went on the Internet... 516 00:25:01,933 --> 00:25:05,135 ...found an original edition of the Jazz series... 517 00:25:05,303 --> 00:25:08,072 ...with a special little bookmark where the "Benjamin Button" story... 518 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,540 ...is in the Jazz series. 519 00:25:09,708 --> 00:25:12,209 It was the first edition and sent it to them. 520 00:25:12,377 --> 00:25:15,179 And that's when Mrs. Nolan gave me a call... 521 00:25:15,347 --> 00:25:18,816 ...and said in a beautiful Southern accent... 522 00:25:18,984 --> 00:25:24,054 ...because I believe she was the Cotton Maid of 1937 out of Mississippi. 523 00:25:24,222 --> 00:25:26,924 Beautiful accent. Said, "Well, we could talk about this." 524 00:25:27,092 --> 00:25:29,660 So that's what we did. I got on a plane, flew to Houston. 525 00:25:29,828 --> 00:25:32,429 And we had a great conversation about what we were trying to do... 526 00:25:32,597 --> 00:25:33,797 ...how long it might take... 527 00:25:33,965 --> 00:25:37,468 ...and the fact that it's perfect timing, because she's not there. 528 00:25:37,769 --> 00:25:41,038 And she's got a little soft spot for Paramount, which helped a lot. 529 00:25:41,206 --> 00:25:44,475 Because she had had a screen test at Paramount back in the late '30s... 530 00:25:44,643 --> 00:25:47,311 ...with Fred MacMurray. And they had offered her a contract. 531 00:25:47,479 --> 00:25:49,947 And she decided she wasn't cut out for Hollywood... 532 00:25:50,115 --> 00:25:53,484 ...and she wanted to stay in New Orleans and start a family out there... 533 00:25:53,652 --> 00:25:55,119 ...for the betterment of New Orleans. 534 00:25:55,287 --> 00:25:58,556 And in the end, it helped us out as well. She always had a little soft spot for us. 535 00:25:58,723 --> 00:26:00,391 So that's the layout here. 536 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:01,592 -Okay. -Okay. 537 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,060 So then back here-- 538 00:26:03,228 --> 00:26:06,363 You know, there's always some kind of activity going on around here. 539 00:26:06,531 --> 00:26:09,233 So even in the background and stuff, we wanna, as much as possible... 540 00:26:09,401 --> 00:26:13,904 ...see kids playing, people doing laundry and stuff over there. 541 00:26:14,072 --> 00:26:17,841 DOYLE: The beautiful part of that house, literally, 360 degrees around you... 542 00:26:18,009 --> 00:26:21,612 ...was all pre-1900, every building. 543 00:26:21,780 --> 00:26:25,449 So all the scenes that you see filmed there, there's no cheating. 544 00:26:25,617 --> 00:26:28,986 You're in the house, you walk out the front door onto the porch... 545 00:26:29,154 --> 00:26:32,623 ...and everything you see there is real. 546 00:26:33,925 --> 00:26:37,494 BURT: For the Nolan house, what we did, we built a porch around the back corner. 547 00:26:37,662 --> 00:26:40,064 That would afford us the ability to go out the side doors... 548 00:26:40,231 --> 00:26:44,401 ...and go out onto a porch and have vistas into the backyard and so forth. 549 00:26:44,569 --> 00:26:46,870 And it had quite a bit of yard space in the back. 550 00:26:47,038 --> 00:26:48,973 So we were able to build a servant quarter... 551 00:26:49,140 --> 00:26:52,910 ...which is sort of a two-story, double-gallery home in New Orleans... 552 00:26:53,078 --> 00:26:57,181 ...where, in the early days, servants would often live behind the houses. 553 00:26:57,349 --> 00:26:59,917 And we also built a exterior kitchen there. 554 00:27:00,085 --> 00:27:04,888 Imagine that this house in that period, the kitchen would've been outside. 555 00:27:05,056 --> 00:27:09,994 So all the food's prepared here, and it goes into the warming pantry. 556 00:27:10,161 --> 00:27:14,164 MAN 1: Background and action. 557 00:27:14,699 --> 00:27:17,301 MAN 2: For each new morning with its light... 558 00:27:17,469 --> 00:27:19,870 ...for rest and shelter of the night.... 559 00:27:20,038 --> 00:27:22,506 ZOLFO: My favorite set in the whole film was the Nolan house... 560 00:27:22,674 --> 00:27:26,210 ...because, to me, it's as big a character as Benjamin. 561 00:27:26,378 --> 00:27:28,812 I was able to think about that set... 562 00:27:28,980 --> 00:27:31,882 ...in ways that I've rarely been able to think about any other. 563 00:27:32,050 --> 00:27:36,320 Because it lives, it goes through so many transitions. 564 00:27:36,488 --> 00:27:39,857 And every time we come back to that house, it's slightly different. 565 00:27:40,025 --> 00:27:43,093 It's just a really fantastic experience and a lot of fun... 566 00:27:43,261 --> 00:27:45,462 ...to sort of take a building and make it a character... 567 00:27:45,630 --> 00:27:50,601 ...and make it change and evolve and get sad and be joyful. 568 00:27:50,769 --> 00:27:51,802 MAN: Here we go. 569 00:27:51,970 --> 00:27:53,604 And roll it. 570 00:27:53,772 --> 00:27:56,473 ZOLFO: And clearly, in a movie like this that's so vast... 571 00:27:56,641 --> 00:27:58,042 ...you can't shoot it in sequence. 572 00:27:58,209 --> 00:28:02,980 So it was a constant, you know, jumping from decade to decade, and era to era. 573 00:28:03,148 --> 00:28:04,748 MAN: Just so everyone's on the same page. 574 00:28:04,916 --> 00:28:07,818 We do this shot, then we're done with this area for today. 575 00:28:07,986 --> 00:28:09,853 It will be first up tomorrow. 576 00:28:10,021 --> 00:28:12,823 Let's bring the dark furniture in a little bit. 577 00:28:13,224 --> 00:28:14,625 ZOLFO: Logistically, it was tricky. 578 00:28:14,793 --> 00:28:18,295 I mean, we were fortunate that we had our storage nearby... 579 00:28:18,463 --> 00:28:22,599 ...and we sort of had every version of the house sort of-- 580 00:28:22,767 --> 00:28:24,968 We tried to keep it organized and always be able to: 581 00:28:25,136 --> 00:28:28,205 "Okay, we're doing 36 tomorrow. Let's bring that in." 582 00:28:28,573 --> 00:28:30,808 MAN: Okay, stand by for another rehearsal. 583 00:28:31,676 --> 00:28:34,078 -As soon as you hear them clap. FANNING: Okay. 584 00:28:34,245 --> 00:28:35,379 -And then you-- Okay? -Okay. 585 00:28:35,547 --> 00:28:36,647 MAN: Here we go. 586 00:28:36,815 --> 00:28:41,351 MRS. FULLER: Benjamin, might I say you are looking strikingly youthful. 587 00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:44,588 Grandma! Look at me! 588 00:28:45,557 --> 00:28:48,025 MRS. FULLER: That was really something. 589 00:28:48,193 --> 00:28:50,994 Come over here, you. 590 00:28:51,463 --> 00:28:52,496 MAN 1: Cut it. MAN 2: Cut. 591 00:28:52,664 --> 00:28:54,565 Can we just see her on the mark, please? 592 00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:57,234 For some reason, the last time you ran like Charlton Heston. 593 00:28:57,402 --> 00:29:00,070 I have to have you run a little bit straighter. 594 00:29:02,207 --> 00:29:03,307 WOMAN: Line up. 595 00:29:03,475 --> 00:29:05,075 Here we go. Back to one. The sun's out. 596 00:29:05,243 --> 00:29:06,977 MAN 3: Here we go. 597 00:29:07,879 --> 00:29:10,881 Watch this. You think you're so great. 598 00:29:13,918 --> 00:29:15,385 Can you do that? 599 00:29:17,288 --> 00:29:18,989 Sweet Jesus. Benjamin. Benjamin! 600 00:29:19,157 --> 00:29:20,524 Get up from there, right now. 601 00:29:20,692 --> 00:29:23,427 You are about to break your old fool neck. 602 00:29:23,595 --> 00:29:28,031 Usually, if you're playing a character who ages, you play a small section of it. 603 00:29:28,533 --> 00:29:32,703 Um.... And the very fact that I'm the voice of Daisy from the age of 6... 604 00:29:32,871 --> 00:29:34,238 ...all the way through to 86. 605 00:29:34,405 --> 00:29:36,306 So there's a part of me in every aspect of her... 606 00:29:36,474 --> 00:29:38,542 ...and I pick her up, I think, when she's 17. 607 00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:42,312 That is an incredible, um, almost impossible opportunity. 608 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,181 So that was the challenge. 609 00:29:44,349 --> 00:29:47,317 And not to shy away from the intense self-involvement... 610 00:29:47,485 --> 00:29:49,019 ...the narcissism of youth. 611 00:29:49,187 --> 00:29:51,021 Oh, my God. I've just been talking and talking. 612 00:29:51,189 --> 00:29:53,023 No, no, I've enjoyed listening. 613 00:29:53,191 --> 00:29:56,627 I found that probably the most painful part of the film to inhabit... 614 00:29:56,795 --> 00:29:59,596 ...because, you know, when I look back on myself as a teenager... 615 00:29:59,764 --> 00:30:01,165 ...particularly now I’m a parent... 616 00:30:01,332 --> 00:30:04,268 ...there's something quite abhorrent and self-involved about it... 617 00:30:04,435 --> 00:30:08,038 ...that hopefully you move beyond as you get older. 618 00:30:08,206 --> 00:30:10,340 MAN 1: Background. MAN 2: Background. 619 00:30:10,508 --> 00:30:13,343 BENJAMIN: And so I went to sea. 620 00:30:13,511 --> 00:30:17,581 HARRIS: It was a little bizarre, because I'd tell my friends back home and my wife: 621 00:30:17,749 --> 00:30:20,217 "I'm working with Brad Pitt." You know? 622 00:30:20,385 --> 00:30:22,553 And then it was like, "How was it with Brad today?" 623 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,423 "No, he wasn't there. It was this guy Robert with a blue hood on his head." 624 00:30:26,591 --> 00:30:30,394 Did I ever tell you I was struck by lightning seven times? 625 00:30:30,562 --> 00:30:31,929 -Stop. MAN: Okay. 626 00:30:33,431 --> 00:30:36,099 MIKE: So Jared, not quite at the eye line that you gave me. 627 00:30:36,267 --> 00:30:38,468 You're looking at him, he stands up, look at his face... 628 00:30:38,636 --> 00:30:42,039 ...then look at his feet, then look back at him, like, "What?" 629 00:30:42,207 --> 00:30:44,241 HARRIS: The tugboat, it was called the Jupiter. 630 00:30:44,409 --> 00:30:48,078 But I think David found out that I was a Manchester United fan... 631 00:30:48,246 --> 00:30:51,148 ...so he changed the boat to the Chelsea. 632 00:30:51,649 --> 00:30:53,717 Just to wind me up. 633 00:30:53,885 --> 00:30:57,187 Anybody wanna make $2 for a day's work around here? 634 00:30:57,355 --> 00:30:59,489 -Nobody wants a job? BENJAMIN: I do. 635 00:31:03,561 --> 00:31:05,495 You got your sea legs about you, old man? 636 00:31:05,663 --> 00:31:06,964 I do. 637 00:31:07,131 --> 00:31:08,365 I think. 638 00:31:08,533 --> 00:31:12,569 DOYLE: We shot the tugboat early on, maybe week one or two in Morgan City. 639 00:31:12,737 --> 00:31:17,474 Meanwhile, Don Burt and his crew were back here building enormous sets at Sony. 640 00:31:53,411 --> 00:31:56,613 DALTON: The ship was 90 feet long, almost 30 feet wide. 641 00:31:56,781 --> 00:31:58,015 It's 20 feet in the air... 642 00:31:58,182 --> 00:32:01,251 ...by the time you build the base and have it above the trunnion. 643 00:32:01,419 --> 00:32:06,023 It's built into a tank that's 20 feet deep. It weighs about 140,000 pounds... 644 00:32:06,190 --> 00:32:08,625 ...above the trunnion, not the base, just the actual ship. 645 00:32:09,227 --> 00:32:13,797 That was like a movie in itself, just building this entire structure. 646 00:32:25,410 --> 00:32:27,144 MAN: Cut, cut. Go it again. 647 00:32:27,312 --> 00:32:30,547 Hey, Burt, do one with you panning around in the gunfire. 648 00:32:30,715 --> 00:32:32,916 FINCHER: Do one where the light's panned on to him more. 649 00:32:33,084 --> 00:32:34,284 MAN: Yeah, yeah. FINCHER: Okay. 650 00:32:34,452 --> 00:32:37,154 And do one more. You have to pan the light over. 651 00:32:37,322 --> 00:32:40,023 DALTON: It has to do a multitude of things. It had to be lazy... 652 00:32:40,191 --> 00:32:41,291 ...on the Mississippi River. 653 00:32:41,459 --> 00:32:44,294 It had to be able to pitch and roll as if it was on the ocean. 654 00:32:44,595 --> 00:32:47,631 It had to be able to pitch, roll and heave as if it there was heavier seas. 655 00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:49,466 And ultimately, when it crashes... 656 00:32:49,634 --> 00:32:53,537 ...it actually has to be able to hit the submarine and ride up out of the water... 657 00:32:53,705 --> 00:32:55,105 ...without the stern of the ship... 658 00:32:55,273 --> 00:32:58,141 ...dipping below the surface of the water, because it wouldn't look real. 659 00:32:58,309 --> 00:33:01,545 The stern of the ship wouldn't just drop below the surface if the front goes up. 660 00:33:04,349 --> 00:33:06,683 The bow of the ship would rise up about 20 feet... 661 00:33:06,851 --> 00:33:08,652 ...so we were doing about a meter a second... 662 00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:11,388 ...with our lead actor on the bow, at maximum height. 663 00:33:11,556 --> 00:33:13,323 He's 40 feet from the concrete below. 664 00:33:13,491 --> 00:33:17,494 You're really concerned about safety, function and realism. 665 00:33:17,662 --> 00:33:21,965 Finally, we're making a movie with a theme-park ride, finally. 666 00:33:22,467 --> 00:33:24,968 And all the interiors for the tugboats were separate sets. 667 00:33:25,136 --> 00:33:29,439 The galley, the bunk area, the wheel house, all those were separate sets. 668 00:33:29,607 --> 00:33:31,641 And those were all on gimbals as well. 669 00:33:31,809 --> 00:33:34,444 So that we could replicate the movement of the boat. 670 00:33:35,847 --> 00:33:37,514 ZOLFO: Most directors aren't like Fincher. 671 00:33:37,682 --> 00:33:43,487 Fincher thinks about every prop, every piece of dressing, every flit of hair. 672 00:33:43,654 --> 00:33:47,157 You don't get that with most directors. Most directors look at the big picture. 673 00:33:47,325 --> 00:33:50,293 When you give them a set, it's either working for them or it isn't. 674 00:33:50,461 --> 00:33:54,965 And David is looking at what's written in the notebook or what the palette is doing. 675 00:33:55,133 --> 00:33:57,467 And while all those things are usually... 676 00:33:57,635 --> 00:34:00,837 ...something a good Art Department and a good production designer will control... 677 00:34:01,005 --> 00:34:03,273 ...and a director will never even notice... 678 00:34:03,441 --> 00:34:06,043 ...David Fincher is not that guy. 679 00:34:06,444 --> 00:34:07,544 Cut it. 680 00:34:07,712 --> 00:34:08,979 MAN: Cut. WOMAN: Cut. 681 00:34:09,147 --> 00:34:11,615 ORMOND: What is extraordinary about him, from my perspective... 682 00:34:11,783 --> 00:34:15,452 ...is that when somebody has a particular leaning as a director... 683 00:34:15,620 --> 00:34:19,289 ...that usually takes away from another aspect of them as a director. 684 00:34:19,457 --> 00:34:22,559 If they're very technically minded... 685 00:34:22,727 --> 00:34:25,595 ...they'll be at the monitor, they'll never come out from it. 686 00:34:25,763 --> 00:34:30,367 They're not so focused on the acting, or that's not their strength. 687 00:34:30,535 --> 00:34:33,437 Or, not that it's not their strength, it's not their interest. 688 00:34:33,604 --> 00:34:34,704 MAN: Action. 689 00:34:34,872 --> 00:34:38,341 FINCHER: I think he is 40 percent left, 40 percent on that frame left. 690 00:34:38,709 --> 00:34:40,043 And then as the car pulls in-- 691 00:34:40,211 --> 00:34:44,815 ORMOND: So for me, what was amazing about him and also slightly alarming... 692 00:34:44,982 --> 00:34:48,018 ...was that he kind of-- He has all of it. 693 00:34:48,186 --> 00:34:50,654 He's not afraid to continue to challenge you. 694 00:34:50,822 --> 00:34:52,589 He has very specific ideas. 695 00:34:52,757 --> 00:34:55,692 FINCHER: Can we do one more pick-up? MAN: Okay, cut, reset, straight away. 696 00:34:55,860 --> 00:34:57,561 All right, once again. Here we go. 697 00:34:57,728 --> 00:35:00,597 FLEMYNG: People are frightened of him. I think he's got a reputation for: 698 00:35:00,765 --> 00:35:03,633 "If you're not really brilliant at what you do, you will be found out... 699 00:35:03,801 --> 00:35:06,570 ...and I will rip you to shreds." You know: 700 00:35:06,737 --> 00:35:08,872 "Take all your clothes off and beat you with a stick." 701 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,241 I think that's unfair. I didn't really see that happen. 702 00:35:11,409 --> 00:35:12,576 But he knows what he's doing. 703 00:35:12,743 --> 00:35:15,745 You can't pull the wool over his eyes. And he's quite direct. 704 00:35:15,913 --> 00:35:16,947 Thank God. 705 00:35:17,115 --> 00:35:19,583 If someone says they can't do it, he'll go, "Well, why?" 706 00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:21,852 And that can be unnerving, you know. 707 00:35:22,019 --> 00:35:24,221 Turn and let me see your look. 708 00:35:24,388 --> 00:35:26,156 Okay, step in back. 709 00:35:26,324 --> 00:35:28,125 Okay, slide three inches to your right. 710 00:35:28,292 --> 00:35:29,459 Do you want me to go further? 711 00:35:29,627 --> 00:35:32,562 FINCHER: No, no, a little bit more left, if anything. 712 00:35:32,730 --> 00:35:35,732 BLANCHETT: The thing that David has in spades is rigor. 713 00:35:35,900 --> 00:35:37,400 You know, he's a perfectionist. 714 00:35:37,568 --> 00:35:39,503 But not for its own sake. 715 00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:42,806 My manager warned me. My agent warned me. 716 00:35:42,974 --> 00:35:47,777 I heard other actors tell me, "Man, David does, man, 40 takes just to open a door." 717 00:35:47,945 --> 00:35:50,914 I'm going, "Wow, really?" And I’m kind of getting a little nervous. 718 00:35:51,315 --> 00:35:54,885 I was coming down some steps, and the shot was just on my feet. 719 00:35:55,052 --> 00:35:56,686 We did that at least 20 times. 720 00:35:56,854 --> 00:35:59,623 I'm just going down the stairs. "Nope," going down, "Nope. 721 00:35:59,790 --> 00:36:02,025 Not that kind of step, more this kind of step. 722 00:36:02,193 --> 00:36:03,360 Try it like this." 723 00:36:03,528 --> 00:36:05,996 And I’m going, wow, like, this is really specific... 724 00:36:06,164 --> 00:36:09,733 ...but I got it, because he's telling the story even down to the feet. 725 00:36:09,901 --> 00:36:12,135 I think the bench has to go camera left a little bit. 726 00:36:12,303 --> 00:36:13,737 Greg, six inches, camera left. 727 00:36:13,905 --> 00:36:16,173 Camera left on the bench, six inches, please. 728 00:36:24,415 --> 00:36:27,517 MOHADI: I didn't count most of the time how many takes I'm taking. 729 00:36:27,685 --> 00:36:31,755 He's the director, he knows what he wants. If you don't give it to him.... 730 00:36:31,989 --> 00:36:37,194 Then, you know, if it means that he drills it out of you, then why not? 731 00:36:37,962 --> 00:36:40,830 MIKE: You gotta be what you're meant to be. 732 00:36:41,132 --> 00:36:45,168 And I happen to be a goddamned artist. 733 00:36:45,336 --> 00:36:46,903 You're a tugboat captain. 734 00:36:47,071 --> 00:36:50,440 I've done lots of independent films, and you get three takes or something. 735 00:36:50,608 --> 00:36:53,443 Barely. In fact, you hardly can afford to do one take. 736 00:36:53,611 --> 00:36:55,979 You know, on some of these things, now. 737 00:36:59,150 --> 00:37:00,684 So I loved it. 738 00:37:00,851 --> 00:37:02,852 You don't get to act that often as an actor. 739 00:37:03,020 --> 00:37:04,754 You know, most of the time you spend waiting. 740 00:37:04,922 --> 00:37:07,557 I loved the amount of time, the amount of takes. 741 00:37:07,725 --> 00:37:10,193 He'd let you go until you felt that you were happy... 742 00:37:10,361 --> 00:37:12,596 ...he was happy, you know. I loved it. 743 00:37:12,763 --> 00:37:16,132 Most times, in film, you get your takes, and you go away, and it's like: 744 00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:18,935 "I wish I could have tried it this way." 745 00:37:19,103 --> 00:37:23,506 But with David, you have enough time to try it as many ways possible. 746 00:37:23,674 --> 00:37:26,910 Finch lets you go through the whole gamut, like, so-- 747 00:37:27,078 --> 00:37:29,746 If it's like, you know, "you're my son," it goes from-- 748 00:37:29,914 --> 00:37:32,449 It would go-- We did, like, 30 takes and.... 749 00:37:32,617 --> 00:37:34,384 Using it as an example of the scenes... 750 00:37:34,552 --> 00:37:36,486 ...but I’d be like, "You're my son!"... 751 00:37:36,654 --> 00:37:37,854 ...all the way down to: 752 00:37:38,022 --> 00:37:39,122 [WHISPERING] "You're my son." 753 00:37:39,290 --> 00:37:43,059 [IN NORMAL VOICE] And the whole arch that that takes you through. 754 00:37:43,394 --> 00:37:45,462 So you get to try it in every single way. 755 00:37:45,630 --> 00:37:47,731 And then Finch just takes the 35th take... 756 00:37:47,898 --> 00:37:50,834 ...which was the simple one, which you should have done in the first place. 757 00:37:51,002 --> 00:37:53,703 But he kind of lets you exercise your need to act. 758 00:37:53,871 --> 00:37:56,306 So, Taraj, you can go a teeny bit slower. 759 00:37:56,474 --> 00:37:57,641 HENSON: Slower? FINCHER: Yeah. 760 00:37:57,808 --> 00:37:59,709 HENSON: Okay. FINCHER: Eight-tenths of a percent. 761 00:37:59,877 --> 00:38:02,412 MAN 1: We are rolling. MAN 2: You do the math. 762 00:38:02,580 --> 00:38:04,781 FINCHER: And action. 763 00:38:10,087 --> 00:38:11,655 No, no. 764 00:38:11,822 --> 00:38:13,957 She really gets up ahead of speed. 765 00:38:14,125 --> 00:38:16,726 And the sun came out. Okay, here we go one more time. 766 00:38:16,894 --> 00:38:18,662 Uh, TJ, you left a little bit early. 767 00:38:18,829 --> 00:38:21,031 Let him get a little bit over to the pile of leaves. 768 00:38:21,198 --> 00:38:22,832 -Let him go another 10 feet. HENSON: Okay. 769 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,602 FINCHER: Okay, here we go. MAN: Rolling. 770 00:38:26,904 --> 00:38:28,405 MAN: Okay, we lost her there. 771 00:38:28,572 --> 00:38:31,041 FINCHER: Cut it. -I’m being called into the principal's office. 772 00:38:31,208 --> 00:38:33,443 Come. Now, what is that? 773 00:38:33,611 --> 00:38:35,178 Aah! Heh, heh, heh. 774 00:38:37,782 --> 00:38:39,115 FINCHER: That's pretty good. 775 00:38:39,483 --> 00:38:41,551 I'll take that one. We can do better. Here we go. 776 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,187 -Once again. HENSON: Teamwork. 777 00:38:45,189 --> 00:38:50,760 CANNOM: We did two weeks of makeup tests with Taraji and Elle and Cate and Brad. 778 00:38:50,928 --> 00:38:52,762 That's one thing you have to do with makeup... 779 00:38:52,930 --> 00:38:56,032 ...which was so nice on this, is they gave us time to test. 780 00:39:00,037 --> 00:39:03,440 HENSON: They started telling horror stories about these big muscle guys that came. 781 00:39:03,607 --> 00:39:06,843 And they would pour the molding over, and they would start to panic and shake. 782 00:39:07,011 --> 00:39:08,745 They would have to take them out of the mold. 783 00:39:08,913 --> 00:39:11,715 And I said, "You know, I really just wanna do this process once... 784 00:39:11,882 --> 00:39:14,484 ...so I’m gonna be really still. 785 00:39:14,652 --> 00:39:18,321 If I start to panic, I will just find a way to work through it." 786 00:39:21,525 --> 00:39:23,526 [INAUDIBLE DIALOGUE] 787 00:39:25,663 --> 00:39:27,764 FLEMYNG: If you're not really a Method actor... 788 00:39:27,932 --> 00:39:31,368 ...to really transform through makeup and costume and hair... 789 00:39:31,535 --> 00:39:33,470 ...is really good fun to do. 790 00:39:33,637 --> 00:39:35,939 I had, like, I think it was eight prosthetic pieces... 791 00:39:36,107 --> 00:39:38,241 ...but over the patch, what was it, with eight pieces. 792 00:39:38,409 --> 00:39:43,646 And Finch comes to the test, and he'd be like, "Yeah. 793 00:39:43,814 --> 00:39:46,916 The forehead is kind of ridiculous, though." And I was like: 794 00:39:47,084 --> 00:39:50,320 "That's my forehead," and he was like, "What?" 795 00:39:50,488 --> 00:39:54,424 "That's the only bit that's actually me." And he'd be like, "Oh, okay." 796 00:39:56,894 --> 00:39:59,662 It's just this chin. It's not bad. 797 00:39:59,830 --> 00:40:02,699 -It’s more-- I’m, like, spongy. -A little bit, yeah. 798 00:40:02,867 --> 00:40:07,003 CANNOM: We take Brad over at 62, and that was the full silicone makeup... 799 00:40:07,171 --> 00:40:09,806 ...with the transfer forehead and upper lip. 800 00:40:09,974 --> 00:40:12,942 I did him at that stage, and then I did 58... 801 00:40:13,110 --> 00:40:17,580 ...and then down to 56 and 52 and 48. 802 00:40:17,748 --> 00:40:21,050 I did him down to about 45. And at that stage... 803 00:40:21,218 --> 00:40:24,254 ...I was just doing a little stipple here and there, just slightly age him... 804 00:40:24,422 --> 00:40:27,590 ...which is where you take the skin and put on the aging rubber... 805 00:40:27,758 --> 00:40:30,794 ...and you powder it, and it creates wrinkles in their own skin. 806 00:40:30,961 --> 00:40:34,197 To take all of those stages and make them work together... 807 00:40:34,365 --> 00:40:37,467 ...the little differences you have to do with the coloring and matching... 808 00:40:37,635 --> 00:40:42,172 ...and the age-spots matching every day. It's insane. 809 00:40:42,506 --> 00:40:46,075 Each character has its own reality. 810 00:40:46,243 --> 00:40:47,944 As long everyone's part of that reality... 811 00:40:48,112 --> 00:40:50,180 -...that's what you buy, I think. MAN: Right. 812 00:40:50,347 --> 00:40:52,148 CANNOM: Cate, she ages the most. 813 00:40:52,316 --> 00:40:55,018 We took her from the 40s to 85... 814 00:40:55,186 --> 00:40:57,787 ...and the 85 makeup was very difficult... 815 00:40:57,955 --> 00:40:59,856 ...because it's 14 appliances. 816 00:41:00,024 --> 00:41:02,659 And the transfer on that forehead covered her eyebrows... 817 00:41:02,827 --> 00:41:05,862 ...because we thought it looked really good without eyebrows... 818 00:41:06,030 --> 00:41:09,866 ...because we really want her to look sickly at that point. 819 00:41:16,340 --> 00:41:20,109 She has these incredible cheekbones. They're just amazing... 820 00:41:20,311 --> 00:41:22,946 ...and it's the hardest age makeup I have ever done in my life... 821 00:41:23,113 --> 00:41:25,148 ...because you can't put age into them. 822 00:41:25,316 --> 00:41:27,083 If I tried putting any lines into it... 823 00:41:27,251 --> 00:41:28,518 ...it just looked ridiculous. 824 00:41:28,686 --> 00:41:31,120 So I ended up basically keeping them the same... 825 00:41:31,322 --> 00:41:34,791 ...and trying to put all the age down around the mouth and into the neck. 826 00:41:34,959 --> 00:41:38,828 And I think I would go there anyway. That's my stretch mark there. 827 00:41:38,996 --> 00:41:41,397 CANNOM: The great thing about Cate, she's so professional... 828 00:41:41,565 --> 00:41:46,536 ...that she's like, "Can we put more lines in here, so I look sadder, you know... 829 00:41:46,704 --> 00:41:47,804 ...and more wrinkles?" 830 00:41:47,972 --> 00:41:49,372 If someone's wearing a bad wig... 831 00:41:49,540 --> 00:41:51,708 ...or they have terrible makeup, prosthetic pieces... 832 00:41:51,876 --> 00:41:54,511 ...you don't believe a single thing that comes out of their mouth. 833 00:41:54,845 --> 00:41:57,413 -And this film is about life. MAN: Roll. Rolling, rolling. 834 00:41:57,581 --> 00:42:03,019 You go on the journey of a man from his strange birth to his death. 835 00:42:03,187 --> 00:42:06,289 And you need to know that the parallel physical aging process... 836 00:42:06,457 --> 00:42:10,126 ...that's being done by the makeup artists is as great as Brad's performances... 837 00:42:10,294 --> 00:42:12,228 ...which it absolutely was. 838 00:42:16,333 --> 00:42:18,368 DALTON: In the film, a scene takes place in Paris... 839 00:42:18,536 --> 00:42:20,670 ...and the closest thing that looked like Paris... 840 00:42:20,838 --> 00:42:25,008 ...that Location Department could find was Montreal. 841 00:42:25,175 --> 00:42:28,044 MAN: Ready and action! 842 00:42:28,212 --> 00:42:32,649 DOYLE: Shooting it in Paris, one, is expensive because of the Euro is killing us. 843 00:42:32,816 --> 00:42:34,584 And, two, logistically, it's difficult. 844 00:42:34,752 --> 00:42:38,922 It makes shooting in downtown Manhattan seem easy in a lot of ways. 845 00:42:39,089 --> 00:42:41,424 Our scope, or how much control we needed... 846 00:42:41,592 --> 00:42:43,960 ...we're talking cars, it's the costumes, it's people... 847 00:42:44,128 --> 00:42:47,964 ...it's closing down blocks and blocks of sections of Old Montreal... 848 00:42:48,132 --> 00:42:50,033 ...which is much tighter than the French Quarter. 849 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,335 Not something the city was real keen to doing... 850 00:42:52,503 --> 00:42:55,371 ...but assisted in any way, shape or form that they could. 851 00:42:55,673 --> 00:42:59,576 But we needed a lot of people and a decent amount of money to pull it off. 852 00:42:59,743 --> 00:43:04,380 To me, it reinforced how much easier I had it in the French Quarter after Katrina. 853 00:43:04,548 --> 00:43:07,317 Because here, a place was untouched by any disaster. 854 00:43:07,484 --> 00:43:11,020 It was just as dense, and I needed just as much control. 855 00:43:11,188 --> 00:43:12,589 I think we shot eight days there... 856 00:43:12,756 --> 00:43:15,391 ...and I, personally, was there prepping for almost two months. 857 00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:19,362 Other than that, wonderful people, and it looked beautiful... 858 00:43:19,530 --> 00:43:22,031 ...and they were all happy to see us go. 859 00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:23,666 [LAUGHS] 860 00:43:25,936 --> 00:43:28,571 DALTON: And in the Russian sequence, it was supposed to be snowing. 861 00:43:28,739 --> 00:43:32,375 So great, we're gonna be in Montreal. It's cold in Montreal. So we fly up there... 862 00:43:32,543 --> 00:43:35,645 ...and realize that we're gonna be shooting in the tourist part of the town... 863 00:43:35,813 --> 00:43:37,213 ...the old part of town. 864 00:43:37,381 --> 00:43:42,318 That you can't do anything to the town, because of, you know, pollution... 865 00:43:42,486 --> 00:43:46,089 ...or residual or any effect it might have on the downtown area. 866 00:43:46,590 --> 00:43:49,559 So the normal paper products or some of the foam product we would use... 867 00:43:49,727 --> 00:43:53,463 ...that expedite all this, that you can make this happen quicker, can't be done. 868 00:43:53,631 --> 00:43:56,232 So we did the entire thing in real crushed ice... 869 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,935 ...some foam that we were allowed to use in background sequences. 870 00:43:59,103 --> 00:44:01,504 And some poly product that we could put along the sills... 871 00:44:01,672 --> 00:44:05,274 ...as long as we vacuumed it all up, so none of it got into the drain system. 872 00:44:05,442 --> 00:44:08,711 MAN: That's what I'm saying. Don't. Go back to base, and we'll talk to Brad. 873 00:44:08,879 --> 00:44:12,148 See how things are going. Give me half an hour. It’s 7:15. 874 00:44:12,316 --> 00:44:16,352 Just trust me, it would be the best for both of us. 875 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,389 DALTON: That was daunting, we have to bring in hundreds of tons of ice... 876 00:44:19,556 --> 00:44:22,692 ...and crush it and place it in multiple locations on the same day. 877 00:44:22,860 --> 00:44:25,628 And then, when we actually go to film the sequence... 878 00:44:25,796 --> 00:44:28,564 ...we have all the manpower in place, truckload after truckload... 879 00:44:28,732 --> 00:44:31,701 ...a 40-foot truckload of ice trucks, three ice-grinding machines... 880 00:44:31,869 --> 00:44:37,240 ...double crews. It’s in May, and it's 90-something degrees in the daytime. 881 00:44:37,408 --> 00:44:38,608 It's 70-something at night. 882 00:44:38,776 --> 00:44:40,877 It's T-shirt weather at night in Montreal in May. 883 00:44:41,045 --> 00:44:45,381 And the ice is melting, so we constantly, between takes, have to refresh the ice. 884 00:44:45,549 --> 00:44:47,884 Refresh the ice, grind more, grind more. 885 00:44:48,052 --> 00:44:50,086 As it's melting away, you're trying to cover it up. 886 00:44:50,254 --> 00:44:51,587 David's trying to jokingly say: 887 00:44:51,755 --> 00:44:54,991 "World's most expensive wet-down. Hey, Burt, why is your ice melting?" 888 00:44:55,159 --> 00:44:56,726 Well, it's hot, that's why. 889 00:44:57,628 --> 00:45:00,430 MAN 1: It’s Murmansk, Russia at 4:00 in the morning. 890 00:45:00,597 --> 00:45:01,731 MAN 2: Hey, guys! 891 00:45:01,899 --> 00:45:03,366 Clear, get out of the shot! 892 00:45:04,368 --> 00:45:07,970 BURT: The Winter Palace Hotel, the exterior, we actually filmed that in Montreal... 893 00:45:08,138 --> 00:45:09,172 ...in the old city. 894 00:45:09,339 --> 00:45:11,674 And then, we used that exterior as a template... 895 00:45:11,842 --> 00:45:14,844 ...for an interior built here in Los Angeles. 896 00:45:15,012 --> 00:45:18,214 With a working elevator and a dining room, and a kitchen and a bar. 897 00:45:18,382 --> 00:45:21,217 MAN 1: Where did Brad go? MAN 2: Well, you've already done the.... 898 00:45:21,385 --> 00:45:22,418 MAN 1: No, I understand. 899 00:45:22,586 --> 00:45:24,320 DALTON: They're exposed, practical elevators. 900 00:45:24,488 --> 00:45:26,656 They were designed and built by the Art Department... 901 00:45:26,824 --> 00:45:28,825 ...but the function, that's our job. 902 00:45:28,992 --> 00:45:31,427 There's a lot of dialogue, so they had to run quietly... 903 00:45:31,595 --> 00:45:33,229 ...they had to run at the speed we wanted. 904 00:45:33,397 --> 00:45:37,500 Let's say the dialogue is going on, and it's ending on the wrong word by half a second. 905 00:45:38,535 --> 00:45:42,638 Reprogram it to be a half a second faster, half a second slower. 906 00:45:42,873 --> 00:45:49,212 ZOLFO: The hotel needed to be a place of former glamour, a place stuck in time... 907 00:45:49,379 --> 00:45:54,417 ...much like Elizabeth Abbot, but still romantic and melancholy... 908 00:45:54,585 --> 00:46:00,656 ...and appropriate as a place for Benjamin to have his first serious love affair... 909 00:46:00,824 --> 00:46:04,327 ...with an older woman who thought she was with an older man. 910 00:46:04,495 --> 00:46:08,030 Two, we're gonna go right from you sitting, and then dissolve, and you'll be asleep. 911 00:46:08,198 --> 00:46:09,532 -I think so, right? FINCHER: Okay. 912 00:46:09,700 --> 00:46:11,033 -That's fine. -Was that too Se7en? 913 00:46:11,201 --> 00:46:14,370 No, I think it should be something that can evolve in a dissolve into: 914 00:46:14,538 --> 00:46:15,571 [IMITATES SNORING] 915 00:46:15,739 --> 00:46:17,240 MAN: Slouch over, thinking. PITT: Yeah. 916 00:46:17,407 --> 00:46:18,941 MAN: We can dissolve, you'll be asleep. 917 00:46:19,209 --> 00:46:20,543 -You know what I mean? -All right. 918 00:46:20,711 --> 00:46:24,947 -Just gotta have some screen direction to it. -Fantastic. Amazing. 919 00:46:26,150 --> 00:46:27,683 PITT: The ways one works. 920 00:46:27,851 --> 00:46:30,787 ZOLFO: In order to create a believable environment for the actors... 921 00:46:30,954 --> 00:46:32,955 ...I like to take closets... 922 00:46:33,123 --> 00:46:36,659 ...and drawers and rooms that are sort of on the set... 923 00:46:36,827 --> 00:46:40,429 ...but not intended to be played any action in and finish them... 924 00:46:40,597 --> 00:46:43,599 ...so that we could be in Los Angeles at Sony... 925 00:46:43,767 --> 00:46:49,639 ...on stage and still have this vibe of this romantic, lost-in-time... 926 00:46:49,807 --> 00:46:53,442 ...small little hotel in northern Russia. 927 00:46:53,610 --> 00:46:55,511 It's not a matter of overdressing. 928 00:46:55,679 --> 00:46:58,247 It's sort of a matter Of just really wanting to walk away... 929 00:46:58,415 --> 00:47:02,985 ...and say, "When they're in there, they're in the Winter Palace Hotel." 930 00:47:07,925 --> 00:47:10,159 MAN 1: And crazy Irish rant. MAN 2: Check his hair. 931 00:47:10,327 --> 00:47:12,528 MAN 3: Rip van Einstein. MAN 4: Looks like it's on fire. 932 00:47:12,696 --> 00:47:13,763 WOMAN: Rocky. 933 00:47:13,931 --> 00:47:14,964 [PEOPLE CHUCKLING] 934 00:47:15,132 --> 00:47:17,166 MAN 5: Like Barbara Bush. MAN 6: Let's go with it. 935 00:47:17,334 --> 00:47:20,002 BLANCHETT: The thing I found fascinating about shooting digitally... 936 00:47:20,170 --> 00:47:23,973 ...which I hadn't done before is that you develop a different performance rhythm. 937 00:47:24,141 --> 00:47:27,310 I think I'd been used to the celluloid rhythm, where you do a take or two... 938 00:47:27,477 --> 00:47:29,345 ...you stop to reload, the actors decompress. 939 00:47:29,513 --> 00:47:31,781 They go back to their trailer, because it's gonna be-- 940 00:47:31,949 --> 00:47:33,983 You know, there's a malfunction with the camera. 941 00:47:34,151 --> 00:47:36,686 Whereas, once you were on set with this film... 942 00:47:36,854 --> 00:47:38,855 ...you stayed there the whole time, which meant-- 943 00:47:39,022 --> 00:47:40,623 It was more like a theater rehearsal. 944 00:47:40,791 --> 00:47:43,025 And oftentimes we would shoot the rehearsals. 945 00:47:43,193 --> 00:47:46,629 So it wasn't necessarily that we did take after take after take. 946 00:47:46,797 --> 00:47:50,399 It's just that we harnessed the rehearsal time into the performance time. 947 00:47:50,567 --> 00:47:51,868 DAISY: I want this. 948 00:47:52,035 --> 00:47:54,103 I want it with you. 949 00:47:55,172 --> 00:47:57,240 And I won't deny you that. 950 00:47:57,474 --> 00:47:59,475 [PEOPLE SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY] 951 00:48:01,979 --> 00:48:04,914 FINCHER: We had been talking about doing Benjamin Button long before Babel. 952 00:48:05,082 --> 00:48:06,515 And actually before The Fountain... 953 00:48:06,683 --> 00:48:09,218 ...because Cate was originally gonna do The Fountain with Brad... 954 00:48:09,386 --> 00:48:11,354 ...until, you know, as my movie would fall apart-- 955 00:48:11,521 --> 00:48:14,223 You know, somebody would say, "Hey, did you hear? 956 00:48:14,391 --> 00:48:16,225 Brad's doing this movie with Darren Aronofsky." 957 00:48:16,393 --> 00:48:18,394 "Oh, great," you know. "Yeah, with Cate Blanchett." 958 00:48:18,562 --> 00:48:19,595 I'd be like: 959 00:48:19,763 --> 00:48:20,796 [GROANS] 960 00:48:20,964 --> 00:48:23,799 And, uh, then that would fall apart. 961 00:48:25,102 --> 00:48:30,039 I'm sorry about that, Darren, and I’m-- But gleefully. 962 00:48:30,674 --> 00:48:33,109 And then came Babel. 963 00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:35,711 Which when I saw I didn't think was treading anywhere... 964 00:48:35,879 --> 00:48:37,380 ...in the area of Benjamin Button. 965 00:48:37,547 --> 00:48:41,384 It's like, that's not just the problem. It's also this and this and this. 966 00:48:41,551 --> 00:48:45,454 FINCHER: The rapport that they have was very much like siblings. 967 00:48:45,622 --> 00:48:48,457 Well, he's totally juvenile, which is, of course, why we get along. 968 00:48:48,625 --> 00:48:53,296 And she is so prepared and thoughtful, and she's taking notes... 969 00:48:53,463 --> 00:48:56,132 ...and she's done this and that, so they're wonderful together. 970 00:48:56,300 --> 00:48:58,267 You know, they're just so easy. 971 00:48:58,435 --> 00:49:00,670 You don't turn his opinion of it. 972 00:49:00,837 --> 00:49:03,639 It's just: "If we're gonna acknowledge it, let's acknowledge it. 973 00:49:03,807 --> 00:49:05,541 Here's the thing. Scares the shit out of me. 974 00:49:05,709 --> 00:49:07,443 I don't wanna create my own babysitter. 975 00:49:07,611 --> 00:49:10,112 I don't wanna be a burden for somebody else." 976 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,682 Isn't that what it is? It's an elaboration on that thought. 977 00:49:12,849 --> 00:49:15,384 FINCHER: I think that we're all-- "I'm going a different way"... 978 00:49:15,552 --> 00:49:18,154 ...can be the thing that leads into, "We all end up in diapers." 979 00:49:18,322 --> 00:49:20,656 -Doesn't matter which direction you go. MAN: Yeah. 980 00:49:21,558 --> 00:49:22,591 We all end up in diapers. 981 00:49:22,759 --> 00:49:25,061 No. How do I not become a burden to us? 982 00:49:25,228 --> 00:49:28,331 FINCHER: The feeling-out process was way over. 983 00:49:28,498 --> 00:49:31,334 So in that way, I was glad that they were in Babel even if.... 984 00:49:32,002 --> 00:49:36,539 It was kind of the pairing of them was really my idea. 985 00:49:36,707 --> 00:49:39,575 MAN 1: And roll, please. We're rolling. MAN 2: Rolling. 986 00:49:39,876 --> 00:49:45,648 FINCHER: In between my movies with Brad, I forget how stupid the world is around... 987 00:49:45,816 --> 00:49:47,216 ...and about him. 988 00:49:47,384 --> 00:49:50,119 I guess, because I know how uncomfortable it makes him. 989 00:49:50,287 --> 00:49:53,756 I guess, I just sort of hope that it's receding... 990 00:49:53,924 --> 00:49:55,558 ...or in some way diminishing... 991 00:49:55,726 --> 00:49:59,528 ...because it certainly doesn't make his life any easier or any more enjoyable. 992 00:49:59,696 --> 00:50:01,130 And then door opens, ba-boom. 993 00:50:01,298 --> 00:50:03,632 We were shooting this commercial in downtown L.A... 994 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,635 ...it's the middle of the night, and we'd shut down most of the street. 995 00:50:06,803 --> 00:50:10,306 And I was talking to Brad, as he sort of stepped off this curb... 996 00:50:10,474 --> 00:50:14,643 ...and these two women who were walking were intense in their conversations. 997 00:50:14,811 --> 00:50:16,879 They realized they were about to run into somebody... 998 00:50:17,047 --> 00:50:19,015 ...and they both turned, and they looked at him... 999 00:50:19,182 --> 00:50:22,952 ...and they both drop to their knees, screaming. 1000 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,121 [CHUCKLING] 1001 00:50:26,289 --> 00:50:27,990 And he sort of, like, reached-- 1002 00:50:28,158 --> 00:50:30,526 Like, I think he thought he had tripped them or something. 1003 00:50:30,694 --> 00:50:33,362 And he sort of reached over to touch them... 1004 00:50:33,530 --> 00:50:36,899 ...and they both sort of recoiled from him, screaming. 1005 00:50:37,067 --> 00:50:39,268 And then they got up, and then they stood there... 1006 00:50:39,436 --> 00:50:40,870 ...unable to move, screaming. 1007 00:50:41,371 --> 00:50:44,140 These weren't, like, 17-year-olds. These were, like, you know... 1008 00:50:44,307 --> 00:50:46,442 ...late 20s, early 30s. 1009 00:50:46,610 --> 00:50:48,044 Okay, here we go once again. 1010 00:50:48,211 --> 00:50:53,616 These are responsible adults. Like, these are not, and it was, it was ju-- 1011 00:50:55,018 --> 00:50:56,719 It was horrible. 1012 00:50:56,887 --> 00:50:58,320 Cut, very nice. 1013 00:51:03,660 --> 00:51:04,827 Camera right. 1014 00:51:05,095 --> 00:51:06,395 Keep going. 1015 00:51:06,563 --> 00:51:08,497 There you go. I need somebody there. 1016 00:51:08,665 --> 00:51:11,233 And action. 1017 00:51:11,401 --> 00:51:18,107 FINCHER: Cate is so stunning to look at that you can literally lose minutes... 1018 00:51:18,275 --> 00:51:19,742 ...where you just find yourself: 1019 00:51:20,877 --> 00:51:22,511 "Oh, I’m sorry. I came to your trailer... 1020 00:51:22,679 --> 00:51:24,880 ...and I was gonna talk to you about this thing. 1021 00:51:25,048 --> 00:51:26,916 I can't remember what it is, so I’ll come back." 1022 00:51:27,084 --> 00:51:30,386 You literally lose moments of your life where you're just sort of: 1023 00:51:30,987 --> 00:51:33,122 FINCHER: You guys speed? MAN: Yes. 1024 00:51:33,290 --> 00:51:36,092 FINCHER: And action. 1025 00:51:38,829 --> 00:51:41,330 [WHISPERING] But I think it's a girl. 1026 00:51:51,675 --> 00:51:54,009 FINCHER: And cut. Very nice. 1027 00:51:54,177 --> 00:51:57,613 So Cate, do you think--? So it doesn't-- I guess it doesn't bum you out at all... 1028 00:51:57,781 --> 00:52:00,216 ...that he doesn't chime in with like: 1029 00:52:00,383 --> 00:52:03,319 "Yeah, that's great." No, I guess not. You're just riding-- 1030 00:52:03,487 --> 00:52:05,688 -Because the next scene is-- -We're getting to the next. 1031 00:52:05,856 --> 00:52:08,824 I know. In the next scene, you're gonna say, "I'm not gonna-- 1032 00:52:08,992 --> 00:52:11,193 I want this more than anything." 1033 00:52:11,361 --> 00:52:15,764 So I wish I could have reservations about it, but I don't have any. 1034 00:52:15,932 --> 00:52:18,234 -You know what I mean? -No. I think I do. 1035 00:52:18,401 --> 00:52:19,435 FINCHER: Yeah. 1036 00:52:19,603 --> 00:52:22,838 It's just I think there's so many beats where I could play. 1037 00:52:23,006 --> 00:52:27,743 And there's so many of these little vignettes where it's, like, it takes some time to-- 1038 00:52:27,911 --> 00:52:30,446 FINCHER: No, I’m not looking for that. I kind of like the idea... 1039 00:52:30,614 --> 00:52:36,886 ...that you are so on top of the wave that maybe you don't even sense his-- 1040 00:52:37,053 --> 00:52:39,955 PITT: Sense and try to bring him-- BLANCHETT: Back. 1041 00:52:40,123 --> 00:52:41,590 FINCHER: Yeah. -Try to bring him back. 1042 00:52:41,758 --> 00:52:43,893 I see what he's looking at. And then I say, "Come on." 1043 00:52:44,060 --> 00:52:45,928 Then what happens is over a course of months... 1044 00:52:46,096 --> 00:52:48,364 ...this continues on. 1045 00:52:48,532 --> 00:52:51,767 So then we have to have dinner and say, "Okay, what's the problem?" 1046 00:52:51,935 --> 00:52:53,469 FINCHER: Yeah. -I can deal with that. 1047 00:52:53,637 --> 00:52:57,239 FINCHER: So the dining sequence, though, is shortly hereafter... 1048 00:52:57,407 --> 00:53:01,777 ...maybe a week later or something, and it's.... 1049 00:53:02,579 --> 00:53:05,247 I don't think that it's, "Okay, wait a minute. What's the deal?" 1050 00:53:05,415 --> 00:53:08,050 It's, "I can see that you're troubled." 1051 00:53:08,218 --> 00:53:12,221 And he says, "Oh, believe me, I am not trying to hide it at all." 1052 00:53:12,389 --> 00:53:16,525 And you say, "I got enough enthusiasm, and I want this enough for both of us. 1053 00:53:16,693 --> 00:53:19,128 BLANCHETT: Yeah. -So I'm sorry if-- 1054 00:53:19,296 --> 00:53:23,999 I'm sorry if I can't kind of see it as a glass half-empty, like--" 1055 00:53:24,167 --> 00:53:28,103 Because the very fact that I’m looking at what he's looking at... 1056 00:53:28,271 --> 00:53:32,575 ...means that I'm registering the problem. 1057 00:53:32,742 --> 00:53:35,978 FINCHER: But I also think you can see it in two different ways which is: 1058 00:53:36,146 --> 00:53:37,746 "Sometimes it's wonderful to do things... 1059 00:53:37,914 --> 00:53:39,882 ...that you're not necessarily comfortable with... 1060 00:53:40,050 --> 00:53:43,819 ...because they show you great new things." 1061 00:53:43,987 --> 00:53:49,291 So I look across the aisle and I go, "That's gonna be great for you." 1062 00:53:49,459 --> 00:53:52,027 -That'll be great for you. BLANCHETT: And I think like we say-- 1063 00:53:52,195 --> 00:53:55,931 The power of my positivity is that I can just drag him along. 1064 00:53:56,099 --> 00:53:59,368 FINCHER: Yeah. Yeah. -In the diner scene it's not my kind-- 1065 00:53:59,536 --> 00:54:01,203 FINCHER: You are the sperm donor I want. 1066 00:54:01,371 --> 00:54:04,106 -Yes. FINCHER: Okay. Good, here we go. 1067 00:54:04,274 --> 00:54:05,674 And action. 1068 00:54:05,842 --> 00:54:07,576 FINCHER: As I was watching, I was thinking... 1069 00:54:07,744 --> 00:54:09,845 ...they're something special to look at. 1070 00:54:10,013 --> 00:54:11,847 They're beautiful, beautiful people. 1071 00:54:12,015 --> 00:54:14,917 And when he finally croaks, looking at her old face... 1072 00:54:15,085 --> 00:54:17,186 ...that will be irony. 1073 00:54:19,189 --> 00:54:21,323 ROTH: First rule, if you're gonna write a love story... 1074 00:54:21,491 --> 00:54:23,459 ...is how you're gonna keep them apart at the end. 1075 00:54:23,627 --> 00:54:25,494 You get them together, it's like, so what? 1076 00:54:25,662 --> 00:54:29,431 You know, we have to have this sort of yearning that goes on. 1077 00:54:32,802 --> 00:54:35,704 I don't want anybody together. I want to see everybody as unhappy as me. 1078 00:54:37,574 --> 00:54:42,278 -What are you thinking? -Well, I was thinking how nothing lasts. 1079 00:54:46,082 --> 00:54:49,618 FINCHER: Everyone in this movie dies, you know, so, of course... 1080 00:54:49,786 --> 00:54:53,422 ...that's how I was able to stomach all the rest of it. 97642

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