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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,828 --> 00:00:04,830 - The game Monopoly has come to life at McDonald's. 2 00:00:04,917 --> 00:00:07,181 - In 2001, you guys get a big tip. 3 00:00:07,268 --> 00:00:10,227 - They said that the McDonald's Monopoly 4 00:00:10,314 --> 00:00:13,187 promotion games are compromised. 5 00:00:13,274 --> 00:00:17,060 - Win a McDLT, Coca-Cola, or $1 million. 6 00:00:17,147 --> 00:00:19,845 - The source said it was all fixed. 7 00:00:22,457 --> 00:00:25,199 And this guy, Uncle Jerry, is the person behind it. 8 00:00:25,286 --> 00:00:28,767 The guy who handles all the high-end pieces, 9 00:00:28,854 --> 00:00:31,118 his name is Jerry Jacobson. 10 00:00:32,858 --> 00:00:34,295 Is this Uncle Jerry? 11 00:00:34,382 --> 00:00:38,081 There had to be over 100, maybe 150 people 12 00:00:38,168 --> 00:00:40,649 that had been in this huge conspiracy. 13 00:00:43,695 --> 00:00:47,786 - We got another winner in May for $500,000 instant winner, 14 00:00:47,873 --> 00:00:49,919 a woman named Brenda Phenis. 15 00:00:52,791 --> 00:00:56,056 And she is Dwight Baker's sister-in-law. 16 00:00:56,143 --> 00:00:57,492 He's a recruiter. 17 00:00:59,798 --> 00:01:02,932 Everybody has to kick money up, so Brenda's not getting 18 00:01:03,019 --> 00:01:05,239 $500,000 for herself to keep. 19 00:01:05,325 --> 00:01:07,110 She's gonna get $90,000, 20 00:01:07,197 --> 00:01:09,721 Dwight Baker is gonna get $90,000, 21 00:01:09,808 --> 00:01:11,897 and Uncle Jerry-- Jerry Jacobson-- 22 00:01:11,984 --> 00:01:13,464 was gonna get $70,000. 23 00:01:13,551 --> 00:01:14,857 - They're not real happy with her. 24 00:01:20,384 --> 00:01:23,300 - We could have a problem. These guys are really mad. 25 00:01:23,387 --> 00:01:24,301 - Dwight's gonna kill Brenda. 26 00:01:29,437 --> 00:01:32,614 - In the FBI, we make a lot of headlines. 27 00:01:32,701 --> 00:01:35,530 # # 28 00:01:35,616 --> 00:01:36,878 Drug busts, 29 00:01:36,966 --> 00:01:39,664 mob stings, 30 00:01:39,751 --> 00:01:41,710 terrorist takedowns. 31 00:01:41,797 --> 00:01:43,625 - Get down! Get down! 32 00:01:43,712 --> 00:01:46,106 - We understand why people want to tell stories about us. 33 00:01:46,193 --> 00:01:47,107 - Mark it. 34 00:01:47,194 --> 00:01:48,759 - Freeze! - FBI. 35 00:01:48,847 --> 00:01:50,152 - FBI! - Action! 36 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,329 - But they don't know the half of it. 37 00:01:53,896 --> 00:01:55,941 What really goes down, 38 00:01:56,027 --> 00:01:58,247 we save that for each other 39 00:01:58,335 --> 00:02:00,555 when we're talking agent-to-agent. 40 00:02:00,642 --> 00:02:03,471 # # 41 00:02:03,558 --> 00:02:06,038 This is "FBI True." 42 00:02:13,481 --> 00:02:16,571 - Dwight Baker, key recruiter in the conspiracy, 43 00:02:16,658 --> 00:02:18,660 and his wife, Linda Baker, went up to Indianapolis 44 00:02:18,747 --> 00:02:21,358 to meet her sister, Brenda, who was refusing 45 00:02:21,445 --> 00:02:23,317 to give up her share of the money. 46 00:02:23,404 --> 00:02:26,494 - She's supposed to be at the Indianapolis, Indiana, airport. 47 00:02:26,581 --> 00:02:28,931 - You're talking $500,000... - Yeah, it's a lot of money. 48 00:02:29,018 --> 00:02:31,063 - But people have been killed 49 00:02:31,151 --> 00:02:33,370 for a heck of a lot less than $500,000. 50 00:02:36,504 --> 00:02:39,071 And in one of the calls, Baker says-- 51 00:02:39,159 --> 00:02:40,203 they were talking about the airport-- 52 00:02:40,290 --> 00:02:43,075 and he said, well, we can't do it there. 53 00:02:43,163 --> 00:02:45,774 Well, "do it" could mean a lot of things, 54 00:02:45,861 --> 00:02:49,299 but it could also mean something--something bad. 55 00:02:53,085 --> 00:02:56,305 One of these abundance of cautious working theory was, 56 00:02:56,393 --> 00:02:58,439 we're gonna go up there, and we're gonna kill her. 57 00:02:58,526 --> 00:03:01,006 We may not do it in the airport, 58 00:03:01,093 --> 00:03:03,008 but we're gonna do it. 59 00:03:03,095 --> 00:03:04,575 So they're not gonna let her cash this check 60 00:03:04,662 --> 00:03:05,576 and take the damn money. 61 00:03:10,625 --> 00:03:13,802 - And so now, we're thinking, well, we can't let anybody 62 00:03:13,889 --> 00:03:15,325 get injured in this thing, so-- 63 00:03:15,412 --> 00:03:17,632 - Of course. We have a duty to warn. 64 00:03:17,719 --> 00:03:21,810 - So we get FBI Indianapolis all over the airport. 65 00:03:21,897 --> 00:03:23,115 - We were still covert. 66 00:03:23,203 --> 00:03:24,943 - The Bakers convinced her that 67 00:03:25,030 --> 00:03:27,728 you're gonna have to go through with the original deal. 68 00:03:27,816 --> 00:03:30,079 - They took control over Brenda and the check 69 00:03:30,166 --> 00:03:33,430 to make sure it was cashed and that these payments were made. 70 00:03:33,517 --> 00:03:35,563 - Ms. Phenis is probably not real happy, 71 00:03:35,650 --> 00:03:38,130 but, you know, it didn't turn out to be a showstopper. 72 00:03:38,218 --> 00:03:39,219 She was safe. 73 00:03:39,305 --> 00:03:41,133 - And we can keep running the case. 74 00:03:41,221 --> 00:03:44,006 I mean, okay, $500,000 gets out the door 75 00:03:44,093 --> 00:03:46,400 versus we blow up the case 76 00:03:46,487 --> 00:03:48,489 and take people down because of this. 77 00:03:48,576 --> 00:03:50,012 I say we keep the case running. - Sure. 78 00:03:50,099 --> 00:03:51,666 Absolutely. - We can always-- 79 00:03:51,753 --> 00:03:53,494 we can always try to recover that money another day. 80 00:03:53,581 --> 00:03:56,627 - So after this happens, what's your guys' next step? 81 00:03:56,714 --> 00:04:00,718 - We pick up calls from Jacobson 82 00:04:00,805 --> 00:04:03,373 to a guy in Miami named Andrew Glomb. 83 00:04:06,158 --> 00:04:07,421 We knew from phone records, too, 84 00:04:07,508 --> 00:04:10,467 that Glomb had also been a recruiter, 85 00:04:10,554 --> 00:04:14,471 finding people to be fraudulent winners, a year or two earlier. 86 00:04:14,558 --> 00:04:17,909 So we applied for and got coverage on Glomb's phone. 87 00:04:17,995 --> 00:04:21,783 So going into August, we were up on four lines now-- 88 00:04:21,870 --> 00:04:26,135 Andrew Glomb, Jerry Jacobson, Dwight Baker, and Linda Baker. 89 00:04:26,222 --> 00:04:30,226 But we know the game's over. 90 00:04:30,313 --> 00:04:34,274 They're gonna run this game, and by the end of the month, 91 00:04:34,361 --> 00:04:35,884 we're done. 92 00:04:35,971 --> 00:04:38,495 So we've gotta figure out pretty damn quick, 93 00:04:38,582 --> 00:04:42,282 what can we do to lock in other prior winners? 94 00:04:42,369 --> 00:04:44,632 Now, we've got Hughey. 95 00:04:44,719 --> 00:04:47,722 We got Baker. We got Phenis. We got Jacobson. 96 00:04:47,808 --> 00:04:50,420 We probably got Glomb now. 97 00:04:50,507 --> 00:04:53,945 We got enough on them, but by this time, 98 00:04:54,032 --> 00:04:56,687 the analysts had put together a chart 99 00:04:56,774 --> 00:04:59,603 that looked like a giant spider web, a spaghetti, 100 00:04:59,690 --> 00:05:02,737 with recruiters and 40, 50 people. 101 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,133 So there was all these names in there. 102 00:05:08,220 --> 00:05:10,788 So we're going into August, and we've got that deadline. 103 00:05:10,875 --> 00:05:14,139 We've got the challenge of, how are we gonna make cases 104 00:05:14,226 --> 00:05:16,011 on all these prior people? 105 00:05:16,098 --> 00:05:20,320 We decide that we are going to create 106 00:05:20,407 --> 00:05:23,540 a reunion of past winners. 107 00:05:23,627 --> 00:05:26,587 We're gonna invite them all to, like, Las Vegas, 108 00:05:26,674 --> 00:05:28,457 like an old organized crime wedding, 109 00:05:28,545 --> 00:05:30,330 where we swoop in and arrest them all at the wedding. 110 00:05:33,420 --> 00:05:35,813 # # 111 00:05:35,900 --> 00:05:38,642 But we--Tom nixed that. 112 00:05:38,729 --> 00:05:40,078 - We got all these people. 113 00:05:40,165 --> 00:05:41,253 We gotta fly them out there. 114 00:05:41,341 --> 00:05:42,733 We gotta put them up. 115 00:05:42,820 --> 00:05:45,170 Unfortunately, the bureau still had budgets back then, 116 00:05:45,257 --> 00:05:46,998 and I'm thinking, let's see. 117 00:05:47,085 --> 00:05:49,827 Great idea, just, you know, think about-- 118 00:05:49,914 --> 00:05:51,351 pare it down a little bit. 119 00:05:51,438 --> 00:05:54,441 - They agree to do publicity as part of winning. 120 00:05:54,528 --> 00:05:57,531 - George Chandler of Walhalla just won $1 million 121 00:05:57,618 --> 00:05:59,141 in the Hatch, Match, and Win game. 122 00:05:59,228 --> 00:06:02,405 - So that sort of morphed into, 123 00:06:02,492 --> 00:06:06,540 let's create a fake production company, 124 00:06:06,627 --> 00:06:09,064 go out, promise these people 125 00:06:09,151 --> 00:06:11,022 the reunion of winners in Vegas. 126 00:06:11,109 --> 00:06:12,546 I mean, we can promise them the moon and the stars. 127 00:06:12,633 --> 00:06:14,156 We're not gonna deliver it. 128 00:06:14,243 --> 00:06:15,766 Gonna go out to where they're at, and hey, 129 00:06:15,853 --> 00:06:18,595 we're gonna film you describing how you won 130 00:06:18,682 --> 00:06:20,467 that exciting, great day. 131 00:06:20,554 --> 00:06:24,166 And then we're gonna put it on the big screen, 132 00:06:24,253 --> 00:06:25,428 and you'll be a star in Vegas. 133 00:06:28,649 --> 00:06:30,825 We got a couple of things going for us, right? 134 00:06:30,912 --> 00:06:34,263 In McDonald's, you had a person named Amy Murray... 135 00:06:38,572 --> 00:06:41,923 Who was a natural at doing this kind of stuff. 136 00:06:42,010 --> 00:06:45,405 The bureau has all kinds of great videographers. 137 00:06:45,492 --> 00:06:46,710 - So you gave the approval then, Tom... 138 00:06:46,797 --> 00:06:48,190 - Yes. 139 00:06:48,277 --> 00:06:49,713 - To do the undercover operation. 140 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,150 - Yeah, this was the next best, you know, a lot cheaper. 141 00:06:52,237 --> 00:06:54,892 - Production company is gonna be called Shamrock Productions. 142 00:06:58,808 --> 00:07:01,508 With the byline 'Cause You're Just Lucky. 143 00:07:04,772 --> 00:07:06,251 If you think about the-- 144 00:07:06,338 --> 00:07:08,689 the little snide-- the dig there. 145 00:07:08,776 --> 00:07:10,430 - So what was the rationale behind doing 146 00:07:10,517 --> 00:07:12,083 the undercover operation? 147 00:07:12,170 --> 00:07:14,912 - This was to get the evidence for court later on, 148 00:07:14,999 --> 00:07:17,915 to hook these people into, this is what they've said. 149 00:07:18,002 --> 00:07:22,659 # # 150 00:07:22,746 --> 00:07:25,140 - We had this list of past winners. 151 00:07:25,227 --> 00:07:29,666 What we didn't have is how they told McDonald's 152 00:07:29,753 --> 00:07:32,582 that they won, when they would call in. 153 00:07:32,669 --> 00:07:34,323 McDonald's didn't keep records of that. 154 00:07:34,409 --> 00:07:38,588 We had to sort of recreate and get them on record 155 00:07:38,675 --> 00:07:42,157 asserting, falsely, how they won. 156 00:07:42,244 --> 00:07:43,201 - Who did you approach? 157 00:07:43,288 --> 00:07:44,638 - We did three of these. 158 00:07:44,725 --> 00:07:47,205 One of the first ones was Buddy Fisher. 159 00:07:48,946 --> 00:07:51,034 He was a winner-- million-dollar winner. 160 00:07:51,122 --> 00:07:52,950 He was Robin Colombo's father. 161 00:07:53,037 --> 00:07:55,736 Robin Colombo was married to Jerry Colombo. 162 00:07:55,823 --> 00:07:57,389 He won a car. 163 00:07:57,477 --> 00:07:59,740 - I wasn't working, and this Sunday, as a matter of fact, 164 00:07:59,827 --> 00:08:01,785 it wasn't a whole lot of work to do. 165 00:08:01,872 --> 00:08:05,572 So, you know, just browsing through the Sunday paper, 166 00:08:05,659 --> 00:08:07,661 as I am wont to do. 167 00:08:07,748 --> 00:08:10,098 - He's sweating and stumbling... 168 00:08:10,185 --> 00:08:13,667 - Uh...and... 169 00:08:13,754 --> 00:08:16,974 - And can't go through the details 170 00:08:17,061 --> 00:08:20,195 of how he won, because he's making it up on the fly. 171 00:08:26,331 --> 00:08:27,507 - I'm leaking. 172 00:08:27,594 --> 00:08:31,206 First, I wasn't so sure about it. 173 00:08:31,293 --> 00:08:32,990 I went to a lawyer. 174 00:08:33,077 --> 00:08:34,470 I did. 175 00:08:34,557 --> 00:08:36,124 Well, you know, you need to protect yourself. 176 00:08:36,211 --> 00:08:37,255 And, uh-- 177 00:08:38,429 --> 00:08:39,519 - No, I don't. 178 00:08:41,390 --> 00:08:42,304 - No. 179 00:08:42,390 --> 00:08:49,006 It was--oh, over in, uh--oh. 180 00:08:49,093 --> 00:08:50,747 - Theoretically, it's the biggest day of his life. 181 00:08:50,834 --> 00:08:53,228 I won like $70 in a lottery once, 182 00:08:53,315 --> 00:08:54,490 and I remember every moment of that. 183 00:08:54,577 --> 00:08:56,187 That was $70. 184 00:08:56,274 --> 00:08:57,841 I mean, this guy was a million-dollar winner. 185 00:08:57,928 --> 00:08:59,974 - Now, had your wife or anyone in your whole family 186 00:09:00,061 --> 00:09:01,192 ever won anything like that before? 187 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:02,542 - No. - Never? 188 00:09:02,629 --> 00:09:03,760 - Nothing. 189 00:09:03,847 --> 00:09:05,806 - So this was big. 190 00:09:05,893 --> 00:09:07,242 - Huge. 191 00:09:07,329 --> 00:09:09,070 - So you're the luckiest one in your family, huh? 192 00:09:09,157 --> 00:09:11,028 - Yes. Yes. 193 00:09:11,115 --> 00:09:12,900 - So has any of your kids or grandkids 194 00:09:12,987 --> 00:09:14,554 played Monopoly or tried to win or anything like that? 195 00:09:14,641 --> 00:09:15,903 - Yes. And we still do. 196 00:09:15,990 --> 00:09:17,731 - Oh, good. - And we still do. Yes. 197 00:09:17,818 --> 00:09:19,733 - Have any of them won any cars or-- 198 00:09:19,820 --> 00:09:21,778 - Jerry Colombo won a Dodge Viper. 199 00:09:24,868 --> 00:09:26,261 - No. 200 00:09:26,348 --> 00:09:27,262 I think I won a cheeseburger. 201 00:09:29,569 --> 00:09:32,006 - They did Gloria Brown right after that. 202 00:09:32,093 --> 00:09:35,096 Gloria Brown was friends with Robin Colombo. 203 00:09:35,183 --> 00:09:38,752 # # 204 00:09:38,839 --> 00:09:42,494 Gloria Brown was pretty amenable-- 205 00:09:42,582 --> 00:09:44,061 - But very hesitant. - Hesitant. 206 00:09:44,148 --> 00:09:46,890 - Gloria, do you recall the person that you spoke to 207 00:09:46,977 --> 00:09:47,935 at the counter when you-- 208 00:09:50,154 --> 00:09:51,415 - No, I sure don't. 209 00:09:51,503 --> 00:09:53,070 - You watch it, and there's another-- 210 00:09:53,157 --> 00:09:55,464 another element of kind of making up a story. 211 00:10:15,832 --> 00:10:17,617 - But to say that the tapes were damaging 212 00:10:17,704 --> 00:10:19,096 would be an understatement. 213 00:10:19,183 --> 00:10:21,185 The only truth that they told in the whole thing 214 00:10:21,272 --> 00:10:22,622 was probably their name. 215 00:10:22,709 --> 00:10:25,537 - If you could just write, "Thanks McDonald's and-- 216 00:10:25,625 --> 00:10:27,757 - Thanks a million. - Oh, that's good. 217 00:10:27,844 --> 00:10:29,324 Thanks a million. That's good. 218 00:10:29,411 --> 00:10:31,108 - Thanks a million, McDonald's. 219 00:10:31,195 --> 00:10:36,461 I got my McDonald's million at Hilton Head in South Carolina. 220 00:10:36,548 --> 00:10:39,551 And it made me a millionaire. 221 00:10:45,645 --> 00:10:47,298 - And then Hoover. - Hoover, yeah. 222 00:10:47,385 --> 00:10:48,560 - Hoover had been recruited by Andrew Glomb 223 00:10:48,648 --> 00:10:51,563 in 2000 to claim $1 million. 224 00:10:54,523 --> 00:10:56,873 - Got the "People" magazine. 225 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,572 And inside, we had the Monopoly game 226 00:11:00,660 --> 00:11:02,879 with the Instant $1 Million winner. 227 00:11:02,966 --> 00:11:05,621 And it was great. It's fantastic. 228 00:11:05,708 --> 00:11:07,754 - And I mean, Hoover was over the top 229 00:11:07,841 --> 00:11:10,191 enthusiastic, laughing. 230 00:11:10,278 --> 00:11:12,672 - He's smiling. He looks like a Cheshire cat. 231 00:11:15,239 --> 00:11:16,937 It's great, and he-- 232 00:11:17,024 --> 00:11:18,939 - It was almost as if he had rehearsed it. 233 00:11:19,026 --> 00:11:21,637 - And he could kind of keep the same story going, 234 00:11:21,724 --> 00:11:23,160 but it was just so preposterous. 235 00:11:23,247 --> 00:11:24,640 - I went to the beach for a while, 236 00:11:24,727 --> 00:11:27,382 and I was a little klutzy. 237 00:11:27,469 --> 00:11:31,995 The "People" magazine and my towel fell out of the backpack, 238 00:11:32,082 --> 00:11:34,955 fell into the water, and got all wet. 239 00:11:35,042 --> 00:11:38,785 I ended up throwing those away on the way to the car. 240 00:11:38,872 --> 00:11:42,092 And then after, I was coming home, 241 00:11:42,179 --> 00:11:44,965 I decided to stop and get provisions for dinner. 242 00:11:45,052 --> 00:11:47,968 And I never got a chance to read the magazine. 243 00:11:48,055 --> 00:11:50,492 And there it was right there at the checkout stand, 244 00:11:50,579 --> 00:11:52,059 so I bought one. 245 00:11:52,146 --> 00:11:53,800 And when I got home, I was leafing through it, 246 00:11:53,887 --> 00:11:58,195 and we had the McDonald's Monopoly game. 247 00:11:58,282 --> 00:12:00,415 And the first one I peeled off, I believe, 248 00:12:00,502 --> 00:12:03,244 was Pennsylvania Avenue, and the second one I peeled off 249 00:12:03,331 --> 00:12:05,507 was $1 Million Instant Prize Winner. 250 00:12:05,594 --> 00:12:07,639 And it was like, wow, is this for real? 251 00:12:07,727 --> 00:12:09,380 - And then they take them to the beach. 252 00:12:09,467 --> 00:12:10,381 - Even before they went up there, 253 00:12:10,468 --> 00:12:12,993 they had made $1 million check. 254 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,212 - Hoover is holding up the sign. 255 00:12:15,299 --> 00:12:17,432 Hey. 256 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:21,741 - And some kid comes running by and grabs the check 257 00:12:21,828 --> 00:12:24,221 and starts running down the beach. 258 00:12:24,308 --> 00:12:29,618 # # 259 00:12:29,705 --> 00:12:31,533 Probably high on marijuana, because he was 260 00:12:31,620 --> 00:12:33,404 running the zigzag pattern-- 261 00:12:33,491 --> 00:12:34,579 - In the sand. 262 00:12:34,665 --> 00:12:36,494 - And of course, Mathews is-- you know, 263 00:12:36,581 --> 00:12:37,844 he's chasing them through the sand there. 264 00:12:40,934 --> 00:12:44,024 And finally tackles him, knocks him over. 265 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,506 Kid's probably got, you know, a mouth full of sand, 266 00:12:48,593 --> 00:12:50,857 and he was so out of it, he just--he just left him there. 267 00:12:50,944 --> 00:12:53,424 Got the check. - One of the funniest parts. 268 00:12:53,511 --> 00:12:54,817 We're up on Glomb's phone. 269 00:12:57,298 --> 00:12:59,996 They do the Shamrock Production shoot, 270 00:13:00,083 --> 00:13:02,216 and Hoover gets on the phone immediately 271 00:13:02,303 --> 00:13:07,569 and calls Andrew Glomb to brag about how well he did. 272 00:13:07,656 --> 00:13:08,875 - Academy Award winner. - Yeah. 273 00:13:08,962 --> 00:13:11,094 We're sitting there listening to this. 274 00:13:11,181 --> 00:13:13,793 We know from talking to Doug and everybody up there 275 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,055 what's going on. 276 00:13:15,142 --> 00:13:18,058 I mean, it wrapped up with a bow. 277 00:13:18,145 --> 00:13:20,887 - How did Jerry kind of recruit these people? 278 00:13:20,974 --> 00:13:23,106 - He would initially recruit people that he met, 279 00:13:23,193 --> 00:13:24,673 he knew, he trusted. 280 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,545 And then from there, these recruiters-- 281 00:13:27,632 --> 00:13:30,984 Glomb, Baker, there was others before that--would sort of 282 00:13:31,071 --> 00:13:35,162 prove themselves by bringing in winners, 283 00:13:35,249 --> 00:13:37,860 almost like a multi-level marketing thing. 284 00:13:37,947 --> 00:13:39,775 You can move up the chain. 285 00:13:39,862 --> 00:13:43,648 The one that comes to mind is Dwight Baker. 286 00:13:43,735 --> 00:13:45,172 Baker recruits Hughey. 287 00:13:45,259 --> 00:13:46,956 We're watching phone records. 288 00:13:47,043 --> 00:13:50,307 All of a sudden, we start seeing all this traffic 289 00:13:50,394 --> 00:13:54,877 back and forth between Hughey and a guy named John Davis 290 00:13:54,964 --> 00:13:58,359 in Texas right around that time period 291 00:13:58,446 --> 00:14:02,363 and conversations with Hughey and Baker. 292 00:14:02,450 --> 00:14:04,626 So Hughey had become a winner, and then 293 00:14:04,713 --> 00:14:07,498 progressed really quickly and became a recruiter 294 00:14:07,585 --> 00:14:09,239 not four months later. 295 00:14:09,326 --> 00:14:12,590 - We knew who the winner was before McDonald's. 296 00:14:12,677 --> 00:14:14,549 - We told McDonald's... - Get ready. 297 00:14:14,636 --> 00:14:16,725 - Really good chance that a guy named John Davis 298 00:14:16,812 --> 00:14:18,988 is gonna call in... - And be the next winner. 299 00:14:19,075 --> 00:14:20,468 - And be the next winner at the end of April-- 300 00:14:20,555 --> 00:14:21,556 at the end of August. 301 00:14:21,643 --> 00:14:24,472 And sure enough, he was the guy. 302 00:14:24,559 --> 00:14:28,302 # # 303 00:14:28,389 --> 00:14:30,347 - How did Jerry Jacobson get his hands 304 00:14:30,434 --> 00:14:32,262 on these winning game pieces in the first place? 305 00:14:32,349 --> 00:14:34,003 - The printer would bring the high value piece-- 306 00:14:34,090 --> 00:14:35,483 and there are several people around watching this-- 307 00:14:35,570 --> 00:14:37,833 high value piece, and then they mix it up 308 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,401 with about 15, 20 other pieces. 309 00:14:40,488 --> 00:14:42,316 So it's all mixed up in this envelope. 310 00:14:42,403 --> 00:14:44,535 The envelope gets sealed, signed, 311 00:14:44,622 --> 00:14:46,407 and there's a seal that goes on it, 312 00:14:46,494 --> 00:14:50,193 and then it goes into a briefcase locked, handcuffed. 313 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,542 I don't know if it was handcuffed to Jerry, 314 00:14:51,629 --> 00:14:53,240 or he was supposed to hang on to it. 315 00:14:53,327 --> 00:14:57,113 And then Jerry and an independent CPA 316 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:02,902 would travel to the region that that high value piece 317 00:15:02,989 --> 00:15:05,687 was supposed to be put into circulation 318 00:15:05,774 --> 00:15:08,429 in the factory production line that makes McDonald's cups 319 00:15:08,516 --> 00:15:09,952 and French fry packets. 320 00:15:10,039 --> 00:15:12,650 And they've got 20 of these pieces, 321 00:15:12,737 --> 00:15:15,044 and they've also got 400 other-- 322 00:15:15,131 --> 00:15:16,524 whatever the name-- - Non-winners. 323 00:15:16,611 --> 00:15:18,439 - Non-winners. 324 00:15:18,526 --> 00:15:19,962 And then they just mix them all up, and then they're going on. 325 00:15:20,049 --> 00:15:22,573 The seal that went on the envelope, 326 00:15:22,660 --> 00:15:25,359 he had somehow mistakenly gotten a roll of them, 327 00:15:25,446 --> 00:15:27,013 so he had spares to use. 328 00:15:27,100 --> 00:15:29,624 So when they were traveling, evidently, 329 00:15:29,711 --> 00:15:32,105 he would break away, go into the bathroom, 330 00:15:32,192 --> 00:15:35,673 switch out a similar envelope with a seal on it, 331 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,763 now with useless pieces, take the envelope 332 00:15:38,850 --> 00:15:42,245 with the winning piece, stick it in his bulletproof vest 333 00:15:42,332 --> 00:15:43,986 that he carried. 334 00:15:44,073 --> 00:15:45,901 - Jacobson would then give these winning pieces 335 00:15:45,988 --> 00:15:47,337 to his recruiters, who would find people 336 00:15:47,424 --> 00:15:49,165 to claim the winning prizes. 337 00:15:49,252 --> 00:15:53,865 - Every piece that Jerry stole and put into his network, 338 00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:55,824 his spaghetti chart, ultimately, 339 00:15:55,911 --> 00:15:59,088 would net him money. - Money. 340 00:15:59,175 --> 00:16:02,570 - Anywhere-- $50,000, $90,000, $200,000. 341 00:16:02,657 --> 00:16:05,616 So it was pretty lucrative for him and everybody else. 342 00:16:05,703 --> 00:16:09,011 The recruiters would also be paid 50 grand or more 343 00:16:09,098 --> 00:16:10,970 by the winners they recruited. 344 00:16:11,057 --> 00:16:12,710 - So you're up against the gun. 345 00:16:12,797 --> 00:16:15,322 You guys do this ruse, this undercover operation, 346 00:16:15,409 --> 00:16:17,237 and then from there, 347 00:16:17,324 --> 00:16:18,803 you're gonna propose for the takedown? 348 00:16:18,890 --> 00:16:20,283 Is that the next steps? 349 00:16:20,370 --> 00:16:22,198 - Early August, we started putting together 350 00:16:22,285 --> 00:16:25,288 the plan for the takedown. 351 00:16:29,031 --> 00:16:33,079 We put together this huge EC, 352 00:16:33,165 --> 00:16:36,647 15, 20 pages, background on the case. 353 00:16:36,734 --> 00:16:38,562 A lot of the work and the activity 354 00:16:38,649 --> 00:16:42,262 was going on in South Carolina, Greenville, to be specific. 355 00:16:42,349 --> 00:16:45,874 This thing gets sent to Columbia 356 00:16:45,961 --> 00:16:47,919 headquarters, city division. 357 00:16:48,007 --> 00:16:52,446 And from there, it's gotta be faxed to the Greenville RA. 358 00:16:52,533 --> 00:16:57,929 We get a call from a small newspaper in Greenville, 359 00:16:58,017 --> 00:17:02,021 and they say, we've got this secret EC document, 360 00:17:02,108 --> 00:17:04,458 and we don't think we're supposed to have it. 361 00:17:04,545 --> 00:17:06,329 - Oops. - Whoops. 362 00:17:06,415 --> 00:17:08,723 - Oh, no. - What do you mean? 363 00:17:08,810 --> 00:17:11,813 Well, it came through on our fax. 364 00:17:11,900 --> 00:17:13,423 - Oh, shit. - Oh, shit. 365 00:17:17,426 --> 00:17:20,473 - I mean, we are right at the cusp of taking this thing down. 366 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:21,779 Everybody is in the-- 367 00:17:21,866 --> 00:17:23,215 in the starting blocks ready to-- 368 00:17:23,303 --> 00:17:27,436 ready to pounce, and one fax could just 369 00:17:27,523 --> 00:17:30,005 undermine the whole operation. 370 00:17:30,092 --> 00:17:31,528 - Second time fax has almost screwed us. 371 00:17:31,615 --> 00:17:33,791 - Exactly. So what happened? 372 00:17:33,878 --> 00:17:35,924 - Somebody punched the wrong button, 373 00:17:36,011 --> 00:17:37,143 and you know, it went to the wrong place. 374 00:17:37,230 --> 00:17:38,492 - Speed dial. 375 00:17:38,579 --> 00:17:40,102 - That one--that one I got a little-- 376 00:17:40,189 --> 00:17:41,147 a little heartburn with, you know? 377 00:17:41,234 --> 00:17:43,671 - Sure. 378 00:17:43,758 --> 00:17:46,717 - So Devereaux got together with the SAC in Columbia, 379 00:17:46,804 --> 00:17:48,284 and they went over to the newspaper. 380 00:17:51,418 --> 00:17:53,811 - It turned out it was a, I think, a small, 381 00:17:53,898 --> 00:17:57,511 almost family-owned, longtime newspaper. 382 00:17:57,598 --> 00:18:02,429 - And on bended knee, Devereaux and the SAC begged and pleaded 383 00:18:02,516 --> 00:18:05,475 and cajoled and finally got him to hold the story. 384 00:18:08,043 --> 00:18:12,047 - When we eventually got over that potential land mine 385 00:18:12,134 --> 00:18:14,093 disaster, the plan for the takedown, 386 00:18:14,180 --> 00:18:18,836 which was set for August 21st, was arrest of the main eight. 387 00:18:20,708 --> 00:18:24,581 Jerry Jacobson, Dwight and Linda Baker, Brenda Phenis, 388 00:18:24,668 --> 00:18:27,976 Michael Hoover, John Davis, Andrew Glomb, 389 00:18:28,063 --> 00:18:32,154 and Ronald Hughey, but at the same time, 390 00:18:32,241 --> 00:18:34,591 interviews of about 20 other winners. 391 00:18:34,678 --> 00:18:37,855 The idea was, we're gonna do this all at once. 392 00:18:37,942 --> 00:18:39,205 We know what you did. 393 00:18:39,292 --> 00:18:40,771 You just need to tell us. 394 00:18:40,858 --> 00:18:42,295 - How many teams do you have? 395 00:18:42,382 --> 00:18:44,384 - Eight arrest teams. - How many states were you in? 396 00:18:44,471 --> 00:18:45,385 - Five or six. 397 00:18:45,472 --> 00:18:51,130 # # 398 00:18:52,696 --> 00:18:55,482 - Jacksonville agents were on every arrest team, 399 00:18:55,569 --> 00:18:58,006 a lot of the interview teams, so we-- 400 00:18:58,093 --> 00:18:59,921 you know, we were sending people out all over. 401 00:19:00,008 --> 00:19:03,098 Well, we had a big command post in Jacksonville 402 00:19:03,185 --> 00:19:05,796 to tally up who's been arrested, 403 00:19:05,883 --> 00:19:07,668 who's been interviewed. 404 00:19:07,755 --> 00:19:10,236 - So I snuck away from the command post for a few hours-- 405 00:19:10,323 --> 00:19:13,064 - During the arrest. - During the takedown. 406 00:19:13,152 --> 00:19:15,066 He's learning about it now probably for the first time. 407 00:19:15,154 --> 00:19:17,808 Statute's expired by now. 408 00:19:17,895 --> 00:19:20,507 Buddy Fisher worked really close to the office, 409 00:19:20,594 --> 00:19:23,031 so it was easy to go over there and interview him. 410 00:19:23,118 --> 00:19:24,815 And I remember this. 411 00:19:24,902 --> 00:19:28,645 As soon as we went to see him and sat down, it was, 412 00:19:28,732 --> 00:19:33,389 you know, typical line, you know why we're here, don't you? 413 00:19:33,476 --> 00:19:34,608 And you wait. 414 00:19:34,695 --> 00:19:37,350 - Uh. 415 00:19:37,437 --> 00:19:39,917 - And, is this about McDonald's? 416 00:19:40,004 --> 00:19:41,441 Yep. - Good guess. 417 00:19:41,528 --> 00:19:45,314 - He got the Shamrock Production visit, like, 418 00:19:45,401 --> 00:19:48,578 a month earlier, but he never heard about 419 00:19:48,665 --> 00:19:50,276 his invite to Vegas. 420 00:19:50,363 --> 00:19:52,539 Maybe he figures he failed the audition, 421 00:19:52,626 --> 00:19:54,497 but I think he thought something else was up. 422 00:19:54,584 --> 00:19:57,239 - But there was larceny in all of their hearts. 423 00:19:57,326 --> 00:20:00,764 I mean, they knew this was a hokey-- 424 00:20:00,851 --> 00:20:02,331 a hokey deal. 425 00:20:02,418 --> 00:20:04,115 I mean, they knew it was criminal activity. 426 00:20:04,203 --> 00:20:06,509 I went up to Washington with-- 427 00:20:06,596 --> 00:20:09,077 Tom Pickard was the acting director at the time-- 428 00:20:09,164 --> 00:20:11,993 and we did a press conference with Ashcroft. 429 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,517 Especially for Jacksonville, this was a big deal. 430 00:20:14,604 --> 00:20:17,651 - This morning, the agents of the Federal Bureau 431 00:20:17,738 --> 00:20:22,569 of Investigation arrested eight individuals in several states 432 00:20:22,656 --> 00:20:25,528 for their involvement in a nationwide scheme 433 00:20:25,615 --> 00:20:29,837 to defraud McDonald's Corporation and its customers. 434 00:20:29,924 --> 00:20:33,101 All of these individuals are charged with conspiracy 435 00:20:33,188 --> 00:20:34,320 to commit mail fraud. 436 00:20:37,584 --> 00:20:39,890 - We were able to identify Jerry Jacobson 437 00:20:39,977 --> 00:20:42,415 as the central figure in the distribution 438 00:20:42,502 --> 00:20:45,200 of the fraudulently obtained game pieces. 439 00:20:45,287 --> 00:20:47,376 - The FBI says Jacobson was paid 440 00:20:47,463 --> 00:20:49,335 in $50,000 kickbacks from the winners 441 00:20:49,422 --> 00:20:50,945 recruited by his friends. 442 00:20:51,032 --> 00:20:52,642 On million dollar payouts, for example, 443 00:20:52,729 --> 00:20:54,905 some of the fraudulent winners allegedly paid 444 00:20:54,992 --> 00:20:58,431 when they got their first of 20 yearly installments, $50,000. 445 00:20:58,518 --> 00:21:01,260 - So from the start of McDonald's putting out 446 00:21:01,347 --> 00:21:04,785 this Monopoly game to the... - End. 447 00:21:04,872 --> 00:21:07,483 - End, how much money was fraudulently won in this scam? 448 00:21:07,570 --> 00:21:10,704 - The total was around $24 million 449 00:21:10,791 --> 00:21:12,140 that we could account for. 450 00:21:12,227 --> 00:21:16,013 - And I'm gonna say we recovered 451 00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:19,278 damn near that much in cash and assets. 452 00:21:19,365 --> 00:21:22,063 There were victims beyond McDonald's in this, 453 00:21:22,150 --> 00:21:23,630 significant victims. 454 00:21:23,717 --> 00:21:26,197 Simon Marketing, who ran the promotional games 455 00:21:26,285 --> 00:21:27,851 for McDonald's, well, they went out 456 00:21:27,938 --> 00:21:29,462 of business because of this. 457 00:21:29,549 --> 00:21:31,290 Dittler Brothers, who printed all 458 00:21:31,377 --> 00:21:35,294 the McDonald's Monopoly game pieces were impacted as well. 459 00:21:35,381 --> 00:21:37,470 1,600 people approximately... 460 00:21:37,557 --> 00:21:39,341 - Lost their jobs. - Lost their jobs. 461 00:21:39,428 --> 00:21:40,690 - These people lost their jobs because 462 00:21:40,777 --> 00:21:45,260 of one bad apple in Simon Marketing, Uncle Jerry. 463 00:21:45,347 --> 00:21:52,398 # # 464 00:22:04,932 --> 00:22:08,327 - So looking back, what comes to mind for you 465 00:22:08,414 --> 00:22:09,850 thinking about this case? 466 00:22:09,937 --> 00:22:11,895 - You work drug cases, and even if you're successful, 467 00:22:11,982 --> 00:22:14,594 you take down the leader or the kingpin, whoever. 468 00:22:14,681 --> 00:22:17,597 His seat doesn't even-- doesn't even get cold 469 00:22:17,684 --> 00:22:18,859 before somebody else moves in. 470 00:22:18,946 --> 00:22:20,556 Whereas in this case, we took it down, 471 00:22:20,643 --> 00:22:23,646 and there's no--nobody else is gonna step in. 472 00:22:23,733 --> 00:22:25,213 So that was a big positive. 473 00:22:25,300 --> 00:22:27,084 - It was a fun case, you know? 474 00:22:27,171 --> 00:22:28,564 We did a lot of unusual things. 475 00:22:28,651 --> 00:22:31,045 - Uh... - Um... 476 00:22:31,132 --> 00:22:33,090 Hey. 477 00:22:33,177 --> 00:22:34,875 - And we dodged a few bullets. 478 00:22:34,962 --> 00:22:37,268 - And nobody died. - And nobody died. 479 00:22:37,356 --> 00:22:39,096 And it's something that, you know, 480 00:22:39,183 --> 00:22:41,795 you can laugh and joke about, I mean, at this point in time. 36937

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