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- The game Monopoly has
come to life at McDonald's.
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- In 2001,
you guys get a big tip.
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- They said that
the McDonald's Monopoly
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promotion games
are compromised.
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- Win a McDLT,
Coca-Cola, or $1 million.
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- The source said
it was all fixed.
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And this guy, Uncle Jerry,
is the person behind it.
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The guy who handles
all the high-end pieces,
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his name is Jerry Jacobson.
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Is this Uncle Jerry?
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There had to be over 100,
maybe 150 people
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that had been
in this huge conspiracy.
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- We got another winner in May
for $500,000 instant winner,
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a woman named Brenda Phenis.
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And she is Dwight Baker's
sister-in-law.
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He's a recruiter.
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Everybody has to kick money up,
so Brenda's not getting
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$500,000 for herself to keep.
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She's gonna get $90,000,
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Dwight Baker
is gonna get $90,000,
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and Uncle Jerry--
Jerry Jacobson--
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was gonna get $70,000.
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- They're not real happy
with her.
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- We could have a problem.
These guys are really mad.
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- Dwight's gonna kill Brenda.
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- In the FBI, we make
a lot of headlines.
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# #
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Drug busts,
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mob stings,
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terrorist takedowns.
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- Get down! Get down!
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- We understand why people
want to tell stories about us.
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- Mark it.
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- Freeze!
- FBI.
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- FBI!
- Action!
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- But they don't know
the half of it.
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What really goes down,
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we save that for each other
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when we're talking
agent-to-agent.
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# #
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This is "FBI True."
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- Dwight Baker, key recruiter
in the conspiracy,
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and his wife, Linda Baker,
went up to Indianapolis
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to meet her sister, Brenda,
who was refusing
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to give up her share
of the money.
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- She's supposed to be at the
Indianapolis, Indiana, airport.
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- You're talking $500,000...
- Yeah, it's a lot of money.
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- But people have been killed
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for a heck of a lot less
than $500,000.
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And in one of the calls,
Baker says--
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they were talking
about the airport--
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and he said, well,
we can't do it there.
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Well, "do it" could mean
a lot of things,
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but it could also mean
something--something bad.
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One of these abundance of
cautious working theory was,
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we're gonna go up there,
and we're gonna kill her.
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We may not do it
in the airport,
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but we're gonna do it.
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So they're not gonna
let her cash this check
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and take the damn money.
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- And so now, we're thinking,
well, we can't let anybody
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get injured in this thing, so--
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- Of course.
We have a duty to warn.
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- So we get FBI Indianapolis
all over the airport.
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- We were still covert.
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- The Bakers
convinced her that
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you're gonna have to go through
with the original deal.
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- They took control over Brenda
and the check
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to make sure it was cashed and
that these payments were made.
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- Ms. Phenis is probably
not real happy,
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but, you know, it didn't
turn out to be a showstopper.
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She was safe.
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- And we can keep
running the case.
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I mean, okay,
$500,000 gets out the door
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versus we blow up the case
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and take people down
because of this.
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I say we keep the case running.
- Sure.
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Absolutely.
- We can always--
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we can always try to recover
that money another day.
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- So after this happens,
what's your guys' next step?
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- We pick up calls
from Jacobson
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to a guy in Miami
named Andrew Glomb.
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We knew from
phone records, too,
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that Glomb had also
been a recruiter,
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finding people to be fraudulent
winners, a year or two earlier.
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So we applied for and got
coverage on Glomb's phone.
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So going into August,
we were up on four lines now--
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Andrew Glomb, Jerry Jacobson,
Dwight Baker, and Linda Baker.
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But we know the game's over.
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They're gonna run this game,
and by the end of the month,
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we're done.
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So we've gotta figure out
pretty damn quick,
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what can we do to lock in
other prior winners?
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Now, we've got Hughey.
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We got Baker. We got Phenis.
We got Jacobson.
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We probably got Glomb now.
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We got enough on them,
but by this time,
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the analysts had
put together a chart
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that looked like a
giant spider web, a spaghetti,
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with recruiters
and 40, 50 people.
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So there was all
these names in there.
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So we're going into August,
and we've got that deadline.
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We've got the challenge of,
how are we gonna make cases
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on all these prior people?
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We decide that we
are going to create
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a reunion of past winners.
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We're gonna invite them all
to, like, Las Vegas,
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like an old
organized crime wedding,
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where we swoop in and
arrest them all at the wedding.
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# #
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But we--Tom nixed that.
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- We got all these people.
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We gotta fly them out there.
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We gotta put them up.
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Unfortunately, the bureau
still had budgets back then,
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and I'm thinking, let's see.
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Great idea,
just, you know, think about--
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pare it down a little bit.
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- They agree to do publicity
as part of winning.
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- George Chandler of Walhalla
just won $1 million
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in the Hatch, Match,
and Win game.
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- So that sort of morphed into,
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let's create
a fake production company,
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go out, promise these people
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the reunion of winners
in Vegas.
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I mean, we can promise them
the moon and the stars.
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We're not gonna deliver it.
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Gonna go out to where
they're at, and hey,
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we're gonna film you
describing how you won
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that exciting, great day.
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And then we're gonna
put it on the big screen,
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and you'll be a star in Vegas.
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We got a couple of things
going for us, right?
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In McDonald's, you had
a person named Amy Murray...
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Who was a natural
at doing this kind of stuff.
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The bureau has all kinds
of great videographers.
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- So you gave
the approval then, Tom...
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- Yes.
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- To do
the undercover operation.
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- Yeah, this was the next best,
you know, a lot cheaper.
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- Production company is gonna
be called Shamrock Productions.
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With the byline
'Cause You're Just Lucky.
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If you think about the--
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the little snide--
the dig there.
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- So what was the rationale
behind doing
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the undercover operation?
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- This was to get the evidence
for court later on,
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to hook these people into,
this is what they've said.
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- We had this list
of past winners.
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What we didn't have
is how they told McDonald's
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that they won,
when they would call in.
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McDonald's didn't
keep records of that.
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We had to sort of recreate
and get them on record
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asserting, falsely,
how they won.
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- Who did you approach?
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- We did three of these.
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One of the first ones
was Buddy Fisher.
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He was a winner--
million-dollar winner.
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He was Robin Colombo's father.
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Robin Colombo was married
to Jerry Colombo.
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He won a car.
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- I wasn't working, and this
Sunday, as a matter of fact,
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it wasn't a whole lot
of work to do.
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So, you know, just browsing
through the Sunday paper,
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as I am wont to do.
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- He's sweating
and stumbling...
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- Uh...and...
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- And can't
go through the details
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of how he won, because he's
making it up on the fly.
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- I'm leaking.
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First, I wasn't
so sure about it.
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I went to a lawyer.
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I did.
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Well, you know, you need
to protect yourself.
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And, uh--
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- No, I don't.
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- No.
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It was--oh, over in, uh--oh.
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- Theoretically, it's the
biggest day of his life.
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I won like $70
in a lottery once,
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and I remember
every moment of that.
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That was $70.
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I mean, this guy was
a million-dollar winner.
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- Now, had your wife or
anyone in your whole family
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ever won anything
like that before?
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- No.
- Never?
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- Nothing.
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- So this was big.
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- Huge.
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- So you're the luckiest one
in your family, huh?
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- Yes. Yes.
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- So has any of your
kids or grandkids
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played Monopoly or tried
to win or anything like that?
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- Yes.
And we still do.
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- Oh, good.
- And we still do. Yes.
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- Have any of them
won any cars or--
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- Jerry Colombo
won a Dodge Viper.
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- No.
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I think I won a cheeseburger.
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- They did Gloria Brown
right after that.
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Gloria Brown was friends
with Robin Colombo.
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# #
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Gloria Brown was
pretty amenable--
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- But very hesitant.
- Hesitant.
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- Gloria, do you recall
the person that you spoke to
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at the counter when you--
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- No, I sure don't.
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- You watch it,
and there's another--
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another element of
kind of making up a story.
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- But to say that the tapes
were damaging
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would be an understatement.
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The only truth that they told
in the whole thing
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was probably their name.
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- If you could just write,
"Thanks McDonald's and--
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- Thanks a million.
- Oh, that's good.
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Thanks a million. That's good.
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- Thanks a million, McDonald's.
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I got my McDonald's million at
Hilton Head in South Carolina.
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And it made me a millionaire.
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- And then Hoover.
- Hoover, yeah.
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- Hoover had been recruited
by Andrew Glomb
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in 2000 to claim $1 million.
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- Got the "People" magazine.
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And inside,
we had the Monopoly game
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with the Instant $1 Million
winner.
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And it was great.
It's fantastic.
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- And I mean,
Hoover was over the top
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enthusiastic, laughing.
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- He's smiling.
He looks like a Cheshire cat.
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It's great, and he--
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- It was almost
as if he had rehearsed it.
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- And he could kind of
keep the same story going,
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but it was just
so preposterous.
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- I went to the beach
for a while,
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and I was a little klutzy.
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The "People" magazine and my
towel fell out of the backpack,
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fell into the water,
and got all wet.
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I ended up throwing those away
on the way to the car.
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And then after,
I was coming home,
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I decided to stop
and get provisions for dinner.
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And I never got a chance
to read the magazine.
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And there it was right there
at the checkout stand,
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so I bought one.
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And when I got home,
I was leafing through it,
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and we had
the McDonald's Monopoly game.
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And the first one
I peeled off, I believe,
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was Pennsylvania Avenue,
and the second one I peeled off
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was $1 Million
Instant Prize Winner.
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And it was like, wow,
is this for real?
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- And then they take them
to the beach.
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- Even before they
went up there,
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they had made $1 million check.
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- Hoover is holding up
the sign.
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Hey.
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- And some kid comes running
by and grabs the check
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and starts running
down the beach.
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# #
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Probably high on marijuana,
because he was
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running the zigzag pattern--
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- In the sand.
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- And of course, Mathews is--
you know,
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he's chasing them
through the sand there.
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And finally tackles him,
knocks him over.
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Kid's probably got, you know,
a mouth full of sand,
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and he was so out of it, he
just--he just left him there.
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Got the check.
- One of the funniest parts.
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We're up on Glomb's phone.
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They do the Shamrock
Production shoot,
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and Hoover gets
on the phone immediately
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and calls Andrew Glomb
to brag about how well he did.
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- Academy Award winner.
- Yeah.
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We're sitting there
listening to this.
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We know from talking to Doug
and everybody up there
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what's going on.
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I mean, it wrapped up
with a bow.
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- How did Jerry
kind of recruit these people?
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- He would initially
recruit people that he met,
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he knew, he trusted.
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And then from there,
these recruiters--
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Glomb, Baker, there was others
before that--would sort of
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prove themselves
by bringing in winners,
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almost like a multi-level
marketing thing.
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You can move up the chain.
285
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The one that comes to mind
is Dwight Baker.
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Baker recruits Hughey.
287
00:13:45,259 --> 00:13:46,956
We're watching phone records.
288
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All of a sudden, we start
seeing all this traffic
289
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back and forth between Hughey
and a guy named John Davis
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in Texas right around
that time period
291
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and conversations
with Hughey and Baker.
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So Hughey had become
a winner, and then
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progressed really quickly
and became a recruiter
294
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not four months later.
295
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- We knew who the winner was
before McDonald's.
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- We told McDonald's...
- Get ready.
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- Really good chance that a guy
named John Davis
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is gonna call in...
- And be the next winner.
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- And be the next winner
at the end of April--
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at the end of August.
301
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And sure enough,
he was the guy.
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# #
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00:14:28,389 --> 00:14:30,347
- How did Jerry Jacobson
get his hands
304
00:14:30,434 --> 00:14:32,262
on these winning game pieces
in the first place?
305
00:14:32,349 --> 00:14:34,003
- The printer would bring
the high value piece--
306
00:14:34,090 --> 00:14:35,483
and there are several people
around watching this--
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00:14:35,570 --> 00:14:37,833
high value piece,
and then they mix it up
308
00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,401
with about 15, 20 other pieces.
309
00:14:40,488 --> 00:14:42,316
So it's all mixed up
in this envelope.
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The envelope gets
sealed, signed,
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00:14:44,622 --> 00:14:46,407
and there's a seal
that goes on it,
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and then it goes into
a briefcase locked, handcuffed.
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I don't know if it was
handcuffed to Jerry,
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or he was supposed
to hang on to it.
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And then Jerry
and an independent CPA
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would travel to the region
that that high value piece
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was supposed to be put
into circulation
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in the factory production line
that makes McDonald's cups
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and French fry packets.
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And they've got
20 of these pieces,
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and they've also got
400 other--
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whatever the name--
- Non-winners.
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- Non-winners.
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And then they just mix them all
up, and then they're going on.
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The seal that went
on the envelope,
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he had somehow mistakenly
gotten a roll of them,
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so he had spares to use.
328
00:15:27,100 --> 00:15:29,624
So when they were traveling,
evidently,
329
00:15:29,711 --> 00:15:32,105
he would break away,
go into the bathroom,
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switch out a similar envelope
with a seal on it,
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now with useless pieces,
take the envelope
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with the winning piece, stick
it in his bulletproof vest
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00:15:42,332 --> 00:15:43,986
that he carried.
334
00:15:44,073 --> 00:15:45,901
- Jacobson would then
give these winning pieces
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to his recruiters,
who would find people
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to claim the winning prizes.
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- Every piece that Jerry stole
and put into his network,
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00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:55,824
his spaghetti chart,
ultimately,
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would net him money.
- Money.
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00:15:59,175 --> 00:16:02,570
- Anywhere--
$50,000, $90,000, $200,000.
341
00:16:02,657 --> 00:16:05,616
So it was pretty lucrative
for him and everybody else.
342
00:16:05,703 --> 00:16:09,011
The recruiters would also
be paid 50 grand or more
343
00:16:09,098 --> 00:16:10,970
by the winners they recruited.
344
00:16:11,057 --> 00:16:12,710
- So you're up against the gun.
345
00:16:12,797 --> 00:16:15,322
You guys do this ruse,
this undercover operation,
346
00:16:15,409 --> 00:16:17,237
and then from there,
347
00:16:17,324 --> 00:16:18,803
you're gonna propose
for the takedown?
348
00:16:18,890 --> 00:16:20,283
Is that the next steps?
349
00:16:20,370 --> 00:16:22,198
- Early August,
we started putting together
350
00:16:22,285 --> 00:16:25,288
the plan for the takedown.
351
00:16:29,031 --> 00:16:33,079
We put together this huge EC,
352
00:16:33,165 --> 00:16:36,647
15, 20 pages,
background on the case.
353
00:16:36,734 --> 00:16:38,562
A lot of the work
and the activity
354
00:16:38,649 --> 00:16:42,262
was going on in South Carolina,
Greenville, to be specific.
355
00:16:42,349 --> 00:16:45,874
This thing gets sent
to Columbia
356
00:16:45,961 --> 00:16:47,919
headquarters, city division.
357
00:16:48,007 --> 00:16:52,446
And from there, it's gotta
be faxed to the Greenville RA.
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00:16:52,533 --> 00:16:57,929
We get a call from a small
newspaper in Greenville,
359
00:16:58,017 --> 00:17:02,021
and they say, we've got
this secret EC document,
360
00:17:02,108 --> 00:17:04,458
and we don't think
we're supposed to have it.
361
00:17:04,545 --> 00:17:06,329
- Oops.
- Whoops.
362
00:17:06,415 --> 00:17:08,723
- Oh, no.
- What do you mean?
363
00:17:08,810 --> 00:17:11,813
Well, it came through
on our fax.
364
00:17:11,900 --> 00:17:13,423
- Oh, shit.
- Oh, shit.
365
00:17:17,426 --> 00:17:20,473
- I mean, we are right at the
cusp of taking this thing down.
366
00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:21,779
Everybody is in the--
367
00:17:21,866 --> 00:17:23,215
in the starting blocks
ready to--
368
00:17:23,303 --> 00:17:27,436
ready to pounce,
and one fax could just
369
00:17:27,523 --> 00:17:30,005
undermine the whole operation.
370
00:17:30,092 --> 00:17:31,528
- Second time fax has
almost screwed us.
371
00:17:31,615 --> 00:17:33,791
- Exactly. So what happened?
372
00:17:33,878 --> 00:17:35,924
- Somebody punched
the wrong button,
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and you know, it went
to the wrong place.
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00:17:37,230 --> 00:17:38,492
- Speed dial.
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00:17:38,579 --> 00:17:40,102
- That one--that one
I got a little--
376
00:17:40,189 --> 00:17:41,147
a little heartburn with,
you know?
377
00:17:41,234 --> 00:17:43,671
- Sure.
378
00:17:43,758 --> 00:17:46,717
- So Devereaux got together
with the SAC in Columbia,
379
00:17:46,804 --> 00:17:48,284
and they went over
to the newspaper.
380
00:17:51,418 --> 00:17:53,811
- It turned out it was a,
I think, a small,
381
00:17:53,898 --> 00:17:57,511
almost family-owned,
longtime newspaper.
382
00:17:57,598 --> 00:18:02,429
- And on bended knee, Devereaux
and the SAC begged and pleaded
383
00:18:02,516 --> 00:18:05,475
and cajoled and finally
got him to hold the story.
384
00:18:08,043 --> 00:18:12,047
- When we eventually got over
that potential land mine
385
00:18:12,134 --> 00:18:14,093
disaster, the plan
for the takedown,
386
00:18:14,180 --> 00:18:18,836
which was set for August 21st,
was arrest of the main eight.
387
00:18:20,708 --> 00:18:24,581
Jerry Jacobson, Dwight and
Linda Baker, Brenda Phenis,
388
00:18:24,668 --> 00:18:27,976
Michael Hoover,
John Davis, Andrew Glomb,
389
00:18:28,063 --> 00:18:32,154
and Ronald Hughey,
but at the same time,
390
00:18:32,241 --> 00:18:34,591
interviews of about
20 other winners.
391
00:18:34,678 --> 00:18:37,855
The idea was, we're gonna
do this all at once.
392
00:18:37,942 --> 00:18:39,205
We know what you did.
393
00:18:39,292 --> 00:18:40,771
You just need to tell us.
394
00:18:40,858 --> 00:18:42,295
- How many teams do you have?
395
00:18:42,382 --> 00:18:44,384
- Eight arrest teams.
- How many states were you in?
396
00:18:44,471 --> 00:18:45,385
- Five or six.
397
00:18:45,472 --> 00:18:51,130
# #
398
00:18:52,696 --> 00:18:55,482
- Jacksonville agents
were on every arrest team,
399
00:18:55,569 --> 00:18:58,006
a lot of the interview teams,
so we--
400
00:18:58,093 --> 00:18:59,921
you know, we were
sending people out all over.
401
00:19:00,008 --> 00:19:03,098
Well, we had a big command post
in Jacksonville
402
00:19:03,185 --> 00:19:05,796
to tally up
who's been arrested,
403
00:19:05,883 --> 00:19:07,668
who's been interviewed.
404
00:19:07,755 --> 00:19:10,236
- So I snuck away from the
command post for a few hours--
405
00:19:10,323 --> 00:19:13,064
- During the arrest.
- During the takedown.
406
00:19:13,152 --> 00:19:15,066
He's learning about it now
probably for the first time.
407
00:19:15,154 --> 00:19:17,808
Statute's expired by now.
408
00:19:17,895 --> 00:19:20,507
Buddy Fisher worked
really close to the office,
409
00:19:20,594 --> 00:19:23,031
so it was easy to go over there
and interview him.
410
00:19:23,118 --> 00:19:24,815
And I remember this.
411
00:19:24,902 --> 00:19:28,645
As soon as we went to see him
and sat down, it was,
412
00:19:28,732 --> 00:19:33,389
you know, typical line, you
know why we're here, don't you?
413
00:19:33,476 --> 00:19:34,608
And you wait.
414
00:19:34,695 --> 00:19:37,350
- Uh.
415
00:19:37,437 --> 00:19:39,917
- And, is this
about McDonald's?
416
00:19:40,004 --> 00:19:41,441
Yep.
- Good guess.
417
00:19:41,528 --> 00:19:45,314
- He got the Shamrock
Production visit, like,
418
00:19:45,401 --> 00:19:48,578
a month earlier,
but he never heard about
419
00:19:48,665 --> 00:19:50,276
his invite to Vegas.
420
00:19:50,363 --> 00:19:52,539
Maybe he figures
he failed the audition,
421
00:19:52,626 --> 00:19:54,497
but I think he thought
something else was up.
422
00:19:54,584 --> 00:19:57,239
- But there was larceny
in all of their hearts.
423
00:19:57,326 --> 00:20:00,764
I mean, they knew
this was a hokey--
424
00:20:00,851 --> 00:20:02,331
a hokey deal.
425
00:20:02,418 --> 00:20:04,115
I mean, they knew
it was criminal activity.
426
00:20:04,203 --> 00:20:06,509
I went up to Washington with--
427
00:20:06,596 --> 00:20:09,077
Tom Pickard was the acting
director at the time--
428
00:20:09,164 --> 00:20:11,993
and we did a press conference
with Ashcroft.
429
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,517
Especially for Jacksonville,
this was a big deal.
430
00:20:14,604 --> 00:20:17,651
- This morning, the agents
of the Federal Bureau
431
00:20:17,738 --> 00:20:22,569
of Investigation arrested eight
individuals in several states
432
00:20:22,656 --> 00:20:25,528
for their involvement
in a nationwide scheme
433
00:20:25,615 --> 00:20:29,837
to defraud McDonald's
Corporation and its customers.
434
00:20:29,924 --> 00:20:33,101
All of these individuals
are charged with conspiracy
435
00:20:33,188 --> 00:20:34,320
to commit mail fraud.
436
00:20:37,584 --> 00:20:39,890
- We were able
to identify Jerry Jacobson
437
00:20:39,977 --> 00:20:42,415
as the central figure
in the distribution
438
00:20:42,502 --> 00:20:45,200
of the fraudulently obtained
game pieces.
439
00:20:45,287 --> 00:20:47,376
- The FBI says
Jacobson was paid
440
00:20:47,463 --> 00:20:49,335
in $50,000 kickbacks
from the winners
441
00:20:49,422 --> 00:20:50,945
recruited by his friends.
442
00:20:51,032 --> 00:20:52,642
On million dollar payouts,
for example,
443
00:20:52,729 --> 00:20:54,905
some of the fraudulent
winners allegedly paid
444
00:20:54,992 --> 00:20:58,431
when they got their first of 20
yearly installments, $50,000.
445
00:20:58,518 --> 00:21:01,260
- So from the start
of McDonald's putting out
446
00:21:01,347 --> 00:21:04,785
this Monopoly game to the...
- End.
447
00:21:04,872 --> 00:21:07,483
- End, how much money was
fraudulently won in this scam?
448
00:21:07,570 --> 00:21:10,704
- The total was
around $24 million
449
00:21:10,791 --> 00:21:12,140
that we could account for.
450
00:21:12,227 --> 00:21:16,013
- And I'm gonna say
we recovered
451
00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:19,278
damn near that much
in cash and assets.
452
00:21:19,365 --> 00:21:22,063
There were victims
beyond McDonald's in this,
453
00:21:22,150 --> 00:21:23,630
significant victims.
454
00:21:23,717 --> 00:21:26,197
Simon Marketing, who ran
the promotional games
455
00:21:26,285 --> 00:21:27,851
for McDonald's,
well, they went out
456
00:21:27,938 --> 00:21:29,462
of business because of this.
457
00:21:29,549 --> 00:21:31,290
Dittler Brothers,
who printed all
458
00:21:31,377 --> 00:21:35,294
the McDonald's Monopoly game
pieces were impacted as well.
459
00:21:35,381 --> 00:21:37,470
1,600 people approximately...
460
00:21:37,557 --> 00:21:39,341
- Lost their jobs.
- Lost their jobs.
461
00:21:39,428 --> 00:21:40,690
- These people lost
their jobs because
462
00:21:40,777 --> 00:21:45,260
of one bad apple in Simon
Marketing, Uncle Jerry.
463
00:21:45,347 --> 00:21:52,398
# #
464
00:22:04,932 --> 00:22:08,327
- So looking back,
what comes to mind for you
465
00:22:08,414 --> 00:22:09,850
thinking about this case?
466
00:22:09,937 --> 00:22:11,895
- You work drug cases,
and even if you're successful,
467
00:22:11,982 --> 00:22:14,594
you take down the leader
or the kingpin, whoever.
468
00:22:14,681 --> 00:22:17,597
His seat doesn't even--
doesn't even get cold
469
00:22:17,684 --> 00:22:18,859
before somebody else moves in.
470
00:22:18,946 --> 00:22:20,556
Whereas in this case,
we took it down,
471
00:22:20,643 --> 00:22:23,646
and there's no--nobody else
is gonna step in.
472
00:22:23,733 --> 00:22:25,213
So that was a big positive.
473
00:22:25,300 --> 00:22:27,084
- It was a fun case, you know?
474
00:22:27,171 --> 00:22:28,564
We did a lot of unusual things.
475
00:22:28,651 --> 00:22:31,045
- Uh...
- Um...
476
00:22:31,132 --> 00:22:33,090
Hey.
477
00:22:33,177 --> 00:22:34,875
- And we dodged a few bullets.
478
00:22:34,962 --> 00:22:37,268
- And nobody died.
- And nobody died.
479
00:22:37,356 --> 00:22:39,096
And it's something
that, you know,
480
00:22:39,183 --> 00:22:41,795
you can laugh and joke about,
I mean, at this point in time.
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