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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,309 --> 00:00:08,443 - China is engaged in a whole-of-state effort 2 00:00:08,530 --> 00:00:11,011 to become the world's only superpower. 3 00:00:11,098 --> 00:00:14,797 # # 4 00:00:14,884 --> 00:00:17,278 - They already have more ships than us. 5 00:00:17,365 --> 00:00:20,585 They have comparable military power. 6 00:00:20,672 --> 00:00:25,590 The one key advantage we have is our submarines. 7 00:00:25,677 --> 00:00:28,463 - We got some information indicating this company 8 00:00:28,550 --> 00:00:30,943 in Houston was interested in stealing 9 00:00:31,031 --> 00:00:33,946 a marine technology for China. 10 00:00:37,907 --> 00:00:39,561 - It's the technology that makes 11 00:00:39,648 --> 00:00:41,693 our submarines quiet 12 00:00:41,780 --> 00:00:45,175 so you can't hear our submarines on sonars. 13 00:00:45,262 --> 00:00:47,264 - There was a lot of money coming from China 14 00:00:47,351 --> 00:00:49,875 to the Houston company. 15 00:00:49,962 --> 00:00:52,443 - Submarines can take out aircraft carriers 16 00:00:52,530 --> 00:00:55,185 with thousands of sailors on them. 17 00:00:55,272 --> 00:00:57,013 That technology is going to either 18 00:00:57,100 --> 00:00:59,407 save thousands of U.S. sailors 19 00:00:59,494 --> 00:01:01,626 or it's going to get them killed. 20 00:01:04,498 --> 00:01:05,848 - This is an insider threat. 21 00:01:05,935 --> 00:01:06,762 This is a big deal. 22 00:01:06,849 --> 00:01:08,068 - We have to act. 23 00:01:14,509 --> 00:01:17,642 - In the FBI, we make a lot of headlines. 24 00:01:17,729 --> 00:01:20,602 # # 25 00:01:20,689 --> 00:01:22,343 Drug busts, 26 00:01:22,430 --> 00:01:25,041 mob stings, 27 00:01:25,128 --> 00:01:26,912 terrorist takedowns. 28 00:01:26,999 --> 00:01:28,871 - Get down! Get down! 29 00:01:28,958 --> 00:01:31,482 - We understand why people want to tell stories about us. 30 00:01:31,569 --> 00:01:32,483 - Mark it. 31 00:01:32,570 --> 00:01:33,832 - Freeze! - FBI. 32 00:01:33,919 --> 00:01:35,530 - FBI! - Action! 33 00:01:35,616 --> 00:01:37,706 - But they don't know the half of it. 34 00:01:39,273 --> 00:01:41,318 What really goes down, 35 00:01:41,405 --> 00:01:43,625 we save that for each other 36 00:01:43,712 --> 00:01:45,627 when we're talking agent-to-agent. 37 00:01:45,714 --> 00:01:48,759 # # 38 00:01:48,847 --> 00:01:52,068 This is "FBI True." 39 00:01:58,683 --> 00:02:02,774 # # 40 00:02:04,036 --> 00:02:06,082 - Well, tell me, how did you three 41 00:02:06,169 --> 00:02:08,780 get involved in this big case? 42 00:02:08,866 --> 00:02:11,740 - We got some information indicating this company 43 00:02:11,827 --> 00:02:15,439 in Houston was interested in syntactic foam, 44 00:02:15,526 --> 00:02:18,442 a marine technology that is export controlled, 45 00:02:18,529 --> 00:02:21,358 because it has national security implications. 46 00:02:21,445 --> 00:02:24,492 There's regulations controlling whether it can be 47 00:02:24,579 --> 00:02:27,451 sent to another country, such as China or Russia. 48 00:02:27,538 --> 00:02:30,672 - So one thing, I have no clue what syntactic foam is. 49 00:02:30,759 --> 00:02:33,065 What is syntactic foam? 50 00:02:33,153 --> 00:02:36,504 - Essentially, syntactic foam is trapped air, 51 00:02:36,591 --> 00:02:39,028 and it's just really reinforced trapped air. 52 00:02:39,115 --> 00:02:42,336 You create tiny spheres, and inside the sphere is air. 53 00:02:42,423 --> 00:02:45,252 It's all packed in a resin that's lightweight, 54 00:02:45,339 --> 00:02:46,688 very strong. 55 00:02:46,775 --> 00:02:47,819 It can conform to whatever shape 56 00:02:47,906 --> 00:02:49,734 that you need it to be in. 57 00:02:49,821 --> 00:02:53,390 - It's the technology that makes our submarines quiet. 58 00:02:53,477 --> 00:02:59,656 # # 59 00:02:59,744 --> 00:03:02,138 Older submarines are made out of steel. 60 00:03:02,225 --> 00:03:04,271 When they dive, it makes a lot of noise on sonar, 61 00:03:04,358 --> 00:03:06,664 so you can hear them coming. 62 00:03:06,751 --> 00:03:09,276 And our submarines use syntactic foam, 63 00:03:09,363 --> 00:03:11,365 which contracts quietly, 64 00:03:11,452 --> 00:03:13,628 so you can't hear our submarines on sonar. 65 00:03:17,371 --> 00:03:20,287 It's also used in our stealth destroyers. 66 00:03:20,374 --> 00:03:23,333 The superstructure of is made out of syntactic foam, 67 00:03:23,420 --> 00:03:27,642 but the radar goes through it, so you can't see where it is. 68 00:03:29,470 --> 00:03:31,776 - There's only four companies that manufacture syntactic foam 69 00:03:31,863 --> 00:03:34,039 for use in our military. 70 00:03:34,126 --> 00:03:35,692 narrator: Crosby Haupt served 71 00:03:35,780 --> 00:03:37,521 in the Marine Corps Combat Engineers 72 00:03:37,608 --> 00:03:40,742 for four years, including a tour in Afghanistan. 73 00:03:40,829 --> 00:03:42,700 In 2012, he joined 74 00:03:42,787 --> 00:03:46,356 the FBI Counterintelligence Squad in Houston. 75 00:03:46,442 --> 00:03:48,966 - One is in the U.K., one in France, 76 00:03:49,054 --> 00:03:51,927 one in Australia, and one in the U.S. 77 00:03:52,014 --> 00:03:53,711 None of the companies that can mass produce 78 00:03:53,798 --> 00:03:55,322 this technology at a high level would 79 00:03:55,409 --> 00:03:57,454 cooperate with Russia or China. 80 00:03:57,541 --> 00:03:59,891 - But is there any other company trying to steal 81 00:03:59,978 --> 00:04:01,806 this technology for China? 82 00:04:01,893 --> 00:04:04,592 Because this could be a potential detriment 83 00:04:04,679 --> 00:04:07,986 to our military, to the country. 84 00:04:08,073 --> 00:04:11,512 narrator: Cindy Coppola is a 23-year veteran of the FBI. 85 00:04:11,599 --> 00:04:13,688 She worked on cases that included 86 00:04:13,775 --> 00:04:15,646 organized crime and terrorism, 87 00:04:15,733 --> 00:04:18,082 and took part in multinational investigations 88 00:04:18,170 --> 00:04:20,651 into drug trafficking and money laundering. 89 00:04:20,738 --> 00:04:22,610 - In counterintelligence, China is 90 00:04:22,697 --> 00:04:25,134 our number-one priority for a reason. 91 00:04:25,221 --> 00:04:27,179 We have hundreds of cases. 92 00:04:27,267 --> 00:04:29,356 They're our biggest threat. 93 00:04:29,443 --> 00:04:33,055 narrator: Roman Rozhavsky is a 17-year veteran of the FBI. 94 00:04:33,142 --> 00:04:35,275 He leads the Bureau's efforts to detect 95 00:04:35,362 --> 00:04:37,842 and investigate threats from Russia, Iran, 96 00:04:37,929 --> 00:04:40,454 China, and other adversaries. 97 00:04:40,541 --> 00:04:43,195 - The PRC has more ships than us. 98 00:04:43,283 --> 00:04:45,459 They have comparable military power. 99 00:04:45,546 --> 00:04:47,765 - China's navy-- now, numbers are staggering. 100 00:04:47,852 --> 00:04:50,464 355 vessels. 101 00:04:50,551 --> 00:04:53,249 It's grown so quickly, analysts consider 102 00:04:53,336 --> 00:04:55,425 the country's rise unlike anything seen 103 00:04:55,512 --> 00:04:58,254 in several centuries. 104 00:04:58,341 --> 00:05:01,431 - The one key advantage we have is our submarines. 105 00:05:04,739 --> 00:05:06,958 # # 106 00:05:07,045 --> 00:05:09,396 PRC is still using Soviet-era subs 107 00:05:09,483 --> 00:05:11,398 that are made out of steel. 108 00:05:11,485 --> 00:05:16,359 # # 109 00:05:16,446 --> 00:05:18,230 Our submarines are quieter. 110 00:05:18,318 --> 00:05:20,015 They can't be detected on sonar, 111 00:05:20,102 --> 00:05:22,452 and syntactic foam is a big part of that. 112 00:05:25,542 --> 00:05:28,371 narrator: But now that U.S. advantage could be lost, 113 00:05:28,457 --> 00:05:30,982 which would put American sailors at risk 114 00:05:31,069 --> 00:05:33,855 as they patrol the South China Sea, 115 00:05:33,942 --> 00:05:37,685 hoping to deter China's aggression against Taiwan. 116 00:05:39,991 --> 00:05:43,386 - Submarines can take out an aircraft carrier 117 00:05:43,473 --> 00:05:46,171 with thousands of sailors on them. 118 00:05:46,258 --> 00:05:48,086 This is technology we really need to protect 119 00:05:48,173 --> 00:05:50,001 for national security reasons. 120 00:05:53,657 --> 00:05:56,181 PRC government, they say exactly 121 00:05:56,268 --> 00:05:57,879 what they want to accomplish: 122 00:05:57,966 --> 00:06:01,143 Become a marine power, take over the South China Sea, 123 00:06:01,230 --> 00:06:03,493 push out the U.S. and its allies. 124 00:06:03,580 --> 00:06:07,149 - China is engaged in a whole-of-state effort 125 00:06:07,236 --> 00:06:10,021 to become the world's only superpower 126 00:06:10,108 --> 00:06:11,980 by any means necessary. 127 00:06:23,252 --> 00:06:25,515 # # 128 00:06:28,910 --> 00:06:32,740 - We got a tip that there's a company in Houston, CBMI. 129 00:06:32,827 --> 00:06:36,091 - This company, CBMI, was trying to get export-controlled 130 00:06:36,178 --> 00:06:38,310 syntactic foam for China. 131 00:06:38,398 --> 00:06:40,051 narrator: Julie Jordan has 132 00:06:40,138 --> 00:06:43,011 been a counterintelligence analyst for almost 20 years, 133 00:06:43,098 --> 00:06:46,362 investigating cases involving export violations, 134 00:06:46,449 --> 00:06:49,887 theft of trade secrets, and economic espionage. 135 00:06:49,974 --> 00:06:51,628 - CBMI, this company in Houston, 136 00:06:51,715 --> 00:06:53,021 what were they all about? 137 00:06:53,108 --> 00:06:55,415 - So we got a business location. 138 00:06:55,502 --> 00:06:56,851 We drove by. 139 00:06:56,938 --> 00:06:59,680 It looked like a little strip mall office. 140 00:07:01,464 --> 00:07:04,293 CBMI, on their website, claimed that they could make 141 00:07:04,380 --> 00:07:06,513 this syntactic foam already. 142 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,865 # # 143 00:07:10,952 --> 00:07:14,303 - But how do you do that in a tiny, little strip mall 144 00:07:14,390 --> 00:07:16,131 doesn't really make sense. 145 00:07:17,915 --> 00:07:19,830 We found out that it had a parent company 146 00:07:19,917 --> 00:07:21,963 in China, CBM Future. 147 00:07:22,050 --> 00:07:24,966 narrator: In China, the "CBM" in the company's name 148 00:07:25,053 --> 00:07:28,099 stands for "China Buoyancy Materials," 149 00:07:28,186 --> 00:07:30,232 but the Houston subsidiary's acronym 150 00:07:30,319 --> 00:07:32,495 is "Create Better Materials," 151 00:07:32,582 --> 00:07:35,019 removing any reference to China. 152 00:07:35,106 --> 00:07:37,718 - The company is trying to hide who they actually work for 153 00:07:37,805 --> 00:07:40,111 so other U.S. companies will do business with them. 154 00:07:40,198 --> 00:07:41,373 - Who was the owner? 155 00:07:41,461 --> 00:07:42,592 - Shan Shi. 156 00:07:45,290 --> 00:07:48,555 He graduated from a very well-known university, 157 00:07:48,642 --> 00:07:51,732 Harbin Engineering University, in China. 158 00:07:53,429 --> 00:07:57,651 He came to the United States in the late '90s to study. 159 00:07:57,738 --> 00:07:59,087 - Was he a U.S. citizen? 160 00:07:59,174 --> 00:08:00,871 - He was. - Yes, naturalized. 161 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,792 - Kui Bo was the Vice President of CBM International. 162 00:08:08,879 --> 00:08:11,360 Shan Shi being the engineering expertise, 163 00:08:11,447 --> 00:08:13,580 and Kui Bo doing more of the business side. 164 00:08:17,105 --> 00:08:19,368 Having the foundation that we built at that point, 165 00:08:19,455 --> 00:08:21,805 one of the other areas that we really needed to understand 166 00:08:21,892 --> 00:08:24,155 was a sense of the finances. 167 00:08:24,242 --> 00:08:25,766 You know, where's the money coming from 168 00:08:25,853 --> 00:08:28,116 to facilitate this effort of theirs? 169 00:08:28,203 --> 00:08:30,335 And so we were able to use a subpoena 170 00:08:30,422 --> 00:08:31,685 to get their bank records. 171 00:08:33,556 --> 00:08:35,558 There was a lot of money coming from China 172 00:08:35,645 --> 00:08:38,648 to the Houston company. 173 00:08:38,735 --> 00:08:41,520 - You follow the money, or you follow the phones, right? 174 00:08:41,607 --> 00:08:43,827 - We see millions of dollars coming in, 175 00:08:43,914 --> 00:08:46,613 and nothing going out, which, of course, doesn't make sense. 176 00:08:46,700 --> 00:08:48,571 We start researching more. 177 00:08:48,658 --> 00:08:51,052 We see that CBMF is partnered 178 00:08:51,139 --> 00:08:53,445 with Harbin Engineering University, 179 00:08:53,533 --> 00:08:56,057 which is the PLA Navy's research facility 180 00:08:56,144 --> 00:08:59,147 where Shan Shi was a student. 181 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:03,455 Then we see they're getting money 182 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:06,720 from high-level PRC government. 183 00:09:06,807 --> 00:09:08,591 You realize that they weren't just trying 184 00:09:08,678 --> 00:09:10,811 to buy a sheet of syntactic foam 185 00:09:10,898 --> 00:09:12,290 to put into a submarine. 186 00:09:12,377 --> 00:09:14,423 They wanted to try to get the entire technology. 187 00:09:14,510 --> 00:09:19,471 # # 188 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,082 - We actually saw photographs 189 00:09:21,169 --> 00:09:24,259 of their manufacturing facilities. 190 00:09:24,346 --> 00:09:26,696 narrator: Now investigators want to know 191 00:09:26,783 --> 00:09:29,656 if the company's factory in China is actually producing 192 00:09:29,743 --> 00:09:34,225 syntactic foam or even some part of it. 193 00:09:34,312 --> 00:09:36,488 - We found out they were going to attend 194 00:09:36,576 --> 00:09:39,448 this trade show that happened every year in Houston, Texas. 195 00:09:39,535 --> 00:09:42,103 # # 196 00:09:42,190 --> 00:09:44,888 So we walk through, and we find their booth. 197 00:09:44,975 --> 00:09:48,283 # # 198 00:09:48,370 --> 00:09:51,939 And there on their table they have the macro spheres that 199 00:09:52,026 --> 00:09:53,897 go into the final product. 200 00:09:53,984 --> 00:09:56,378 # # 201 00:09:56,465 --> 00:09:59,207 - Crosby, when you saw this at the trade show, 202 00:09:59,294 --> 00:10:01,949 did you go, like, "Holy shit, they've got this technology"? 203 00:10:02,036 --> 00:10:03,298 - Yeah. 204 00:10:03,385 --> 00:10:04,691 I'm very concerned at that point. 205 00:10:04,778 --> 00:10:06,867 - Our biggest fear was they would succeed 206 00:10:06,954 --> 00:10:08,564 and steal the entire technology. 207 00:10:08,651 --> 00:10:10,218 - That was a big moment for us 208 00:10:10,305 --> 00:10:12,046 because it puts it all in perspective. 209 00:10:12,133 --> 00:10:14,396 This is an insider threat. This is a big deal. 210 00:10:22,665 --> 00:10:24,362 narrator: Now that they have spheres that help 211 00:10:24,449 --> 00:10:27,148 make up syntactic foam and a Chinese factory standing by 212 00:10:27,235 --> 00:10:28,932 to produce the full product, 213 00:10:29,019 --> 00:10:32,109 Shan Shi and his Houston company appear poised 214 00:10:32,196 --> 00:10:34,895 to steal the crucial naval technology. 215 00:10:34,982 --> 00:10:37,114 - We needed to know what was truly happening. 216 00:10:37,201 --> 00:10:39,203 Either in their phone conversations 217 00:10:39,290 --> 00:10:42,337 or in their emails, what were they talking about? 218 00:10:42,424 --> 00:10:45,122 - Because it's a U.S. company, so they have extra protection, 219 00:10:45,209 --> 00:10:47,472 we had to prove they were acting as an agent 220 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:48,735 of a foreign power. 221 00:10:48,822 --> 00:10:50,562 We had enough for a FISA. 222 00:10:50,650 --> 00:10:51,825 - So you get emails. 223 00:10:51,912 --> 00:10:53,391 Do you get phones? - We did. 224 00:10:53,478 --> 00:10:56,394 So at this point, we start reading, 225 00:10:56,481 --> 00:10:58,179 in real time, what they're doing. 226 00:10:58,266 --> 00:11:01,008 - We had about 250,000 emails to go through. 227 00:11:01,095 --> 00:11:02,183 - Wow. 228 00:11:02,270 --> 00:11:03,837 - So I started browsing a little bit 229 00:11:03,924 --> 00:11:06,361 and decided to do a keyword search. 230 00:11:06,448 --> 00:11:09,190 And I searched the word "trade secret." 231 00:11:09,277 --> 00:11:11,627 And one of the first emails that came up 232 00:11:11,714 --> 00:11:13,847 was this 20-page document. 233 00:11:13,934 --> 00:11:16,545 It had Trelleborg markings all over the front, 234 00:11:16,632 --> 00:11:20,201 along with confidentiality, proprietary statements 235 00:11:20,288 --> 00:11:22,203 on every single page. 236 00:11:22,290 --> 00:11:24,422 narrator: Trelleborg is one of the four companies 237 00:11:24,509 --> 00:11:28,035 that makes syntactic foam for the American military. 238 00:11:28,122 --> 00:11:33,214 Located in Houston, Trelleborg observes all U.S. export laws. 239 00:11:33,301 --> 00:11:35,607 - That information, that trade secret information, 240 00:11:35,695 --> 00:11:37,697 had been stolen from Trelleborg. 241 00:11:41,309 --> 00:11:44,268 We also see through the email coverage, 242 00:11:44,355 --> 00:11:47,881 CBMI had reached out to headhunters 243 00:11:47,968 --> 00:11:50,622 to try to specifically find the employees 244 00:11:50,710 --> 00:11:53,234 that had worked on the manufacturing process 245 00:11:53,321 --> 00:11:55,105 at Trelleborg. 246 00:11:55,192 --> 00:11:58,239 # # 247 00:11:58,326 --> 00:12:00,850 - What we realize is that they actually 248 00:12:00,937 --> 00:12:04,419 have two former Trelleborg employees now working at CBMI. 249 00:12:04,506 --> 00:12:06,900 # # 250 00:12:06,987 --> 00:12:09,685 Gang Liu was kind of the linchpin of everything. 251 00:12:09,772 --> 00:12:13,254 He was an intern at Trelleborg for a year. 252 00:12:13,341 --> 00:12:16,736 - Sam Ogoe was a former Trelleborg employee. 253 00:12:16,823 --> 00:12:20,000 He actually worked on manufacturing and testing. 254 00:12:20,087 --> 00:12:21,697 - So you think, at that point, 255 00:12:21,784 --> 00:12:23,307 that's where that PowerPoint came from. 256 00:12:23,394 --> 00:12:24,613 One of them stole it-- 257 00:12:24,700 --> 00:12:25,832 - Stole it. - When they left. 258 00:12:25,919 --> 00:12:26,876 - Yes. - Right. 259 00:12:29,531 --> 00:12:32,012 - Gang Liu had kept the technical data from Trelleborg. 260 00:12:32,099 --> 00:12:34,144 At that point, they knew, like, they had 261 00:12:34,231 --> 00:12:36,625 somebody who could advance them significantly. 262 00:12:36,712 --> 00:12:39,933 Gang Liu was hired. 263 00:12:40,020 --> 00:12:43,066 On day two, he's providing mountains of technical data. 264 00:12:43,153 --> 00:12:46,243 # # 265 00:12:46,330 --> 00:12:48,593 - So when Sam started working at CBMI, 266 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:52,249 he reached out to his friends, Uka Uche and Johnny Randall. 267 00:12:52,336 --> 00:12:55,818 Both of them were, at the time, working at Trelleborg. 268 00:12:58,342 --> 00:13:01,258 And they provided him trade secret information. 269 00:13:01,345 --> 00:13:08,091 # # 270 00:13:12,226 --> 00:13:13,749 - We're angry at this point. 271 00:13:13,836 --> 00:13:15,664 We know they have stolen trade secrets, 272 00:13:15,751 --> 00:13:18,275 and we're finding more Trelleborg trade secrets. 273 00:13:21,626 --> 00:13:22,976 - That's just crazy. - Right. 274 00:13:23,063 --> 00:13:24,325 - It's just crazy. - You have to act. 275 00:13:24,412 --> 00:13:26,022 We have to warn this company. 276 00:13:26,109 --> 00:13:28,764 - It's a duty to warn them because this could definitely 277 00:13:28,851 --> 00:13:31,898 affect the United States and impact our military 278 00:13:31,985 --> 00:13:33,943 and maybe the Five Eyes as well, right? 279 00:13:34,030 --> 00:13:36,380 - It's a threat to our national security. 280 00:13:36,467 --> 00:13:38,382 They could build submarines that are as good as ours. 281 00:13:38,469 --> 00:13:41,429 And submarines carry nuclear weapons, 282 00:13:41,516 --> 00:13:44,084 they can go anywhere, and they'd be difficult to detect. 283 00:13:44,171 --> 00:13:46,086 Those submarines could destroy our fleets. 284 00:13:46,173 --> 00:13:48,915 narrator: Without detection, Chinese subs might 285 00:13:49,002 --> 00:13:51,004 even end up in the waters not far 286 00:13:51,091 --> 00:13:53,267 from America's biggest cities. 287 00:13:53,354 --> 00:13:55,573 # # 288 00:13:58,272 --> 00:14:01,884 - We see that they have insiders in Trelleborg, 289 00:14:01,971 --> 00:14:04,017 so we can't just go to the U.S. company, 290 00:14:04,104 --> 00:14:06,541 because we don't know, you know, who knows about this 291 00:14:06,628 --> 00:14:08,543 and who doesn't, and we might tip them off. 292 00:14:08,630 --> 00:14:11,198 So we decide we're going all the way to Sweden, 293 00:14:11,285 --> 00:14:14,070 and we're going to talk to their CEO. 294 00:14:15,463 --> 00:14:16,986 - Sweden, so it's a Swedish company. 295 00:14:17,073 --> 00:14:19,815 - It's a massive Swedish corporation. 296 00:14:19,902 --> 00:14:22,078 The company in Houston that made syntactic foam was 297 00:14:22,165 --> 00:14:25,212 one of their subsidiaries. 298 00:14:25,299 --> 00:14:26,735 We go to their boardroom, 299 00:14:26,822 --> 00:14:28,780 and then we show them the stolen trade secrets 300 00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:30,957 that we got from our FISA. 301 00:14:31,044 --> 00:14:32,915 And we would like your help to stop this 302 00:14:33,002 --> 00:14:35,222 and save your company in Houston. 303 00:14:35,309 --> 00:14:37,311 - And from that point forward, we had their attention. 304 00:14:37,398 --> 00:14:40,096 And the anger in the room built as they understood 305 00:14:40,183 --> 00:14:44,448 that someone in their family had betrayed them. 306 00:14:44,535 --> 00:14:46,450 - And they were like, we will fully cooperate with you. 307 00:14:46,537 --> 00:14:49,323 We will work with you and help you with this prosecution. 308 00:14:49,410 --> 00:14:51,760 # # 309 00:14:51,847 --> 00:14:53,631 - So you come back from Sweden. 310 00:14:53,718 --> 00:14:55,068 What do you guys do next? 311 00:14:55,155 --> 00:14:58,941 - Number one, we need CMBI to try to profit 312 00:14:59,028 --> 00:15:01,074 from their stolen trade secrets. 313 00:15:01,161 --> 00:15:03,250 Number two, we need them to do it in District of Columbia 314 00:15:03,337 --> 00:15:05,817 because that's where the U.S. Attorney's Office is 315 00:15:05,905 --> 00:15:07,515 that we're working with. 316 00:15:07,602 --> 00:15:10,039 And then number three, we want to get more evidence 317 00:15:10,126 --> 00:15:13,173 that they're sponsored by the PRC government 318 00:15:13,260 --> 00:15:17,003 and that this is economic espionage. 319 00:15:17,090 --> 00:15:19,570 So we partner with Lockheed. 320 00:15:19,657 --> 00:15:22,182 We get their permission to put their name 321 00:15:22,269 --> 00:15:24,227 on this potential project, 322 00:15:24,314 --> 00:15:27,491 where they're going to build a submarine that 323 00:15:27,578 --> 00:15:29,015 would need syntactic foam. 324 00:15:29,102 --> 00:15:30,842 We make it very lucrative, you know, 325 00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:32,932 where CBMI make millions of dollars. 326 00:15:33,019 --> 00:15:35,456 So we have the undercover who is acting 327 00:15:35,543 --> 00:15:40,896 as the contractor for Lockheed reach out to Shan Shi. 328 00:15:40,983 --> 00:15:42,593 And the undercover says, like, hey, we don't just 329 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,683 work with anyone, and you're not exactly a known company, 330 00:15:45,770 --> 00:15:47,250 so what have you done before? 331 00:15:47,337 --> 00:15:48,686 - Sure. 332 00:15:48,773 --> 00:15:50,558 - It works out better than we ever hoped. 333 00:15:50,645 --> 00:15:53,735 They send us this amazing presentation of things 334 00:15:53,822 --> 00:15:55,737 they have done for the PRC's Navy, 335 00:15:55,824 --> 00:15:58,305 like they actually built a submersible for them, 336 00:15:58,392 --> 00:16:00,568 and they send us photos of that. 337 00:16:00,655 --> 00:16:05,442 - It was an orange ROV, and it's up on a stand. 338 00:16:05,529 --> 00:16:09,577 And when you zoom in on a little logo on it, 339 00:16:09,664 --> 00:16:14,974 it says the "Key Laboratory for National Defense." 340 00:16:16,236 --> 00:16:18,455 - I cannot believe they went for it, frankly. 341 00:16:18,542 --> 00:16:20,980 Like, it was a great idea, but why would they be 342 00:16:21,067 --> 00:16:23,721 so foolish as to provide the things that 343 00:16:23,808 --> 00:16:25,114 they ended up providing, 344 00:16:25,201 --> 00:16:27,247 which were projects for the PRC government 345 00:16:27,334 --> 00:16:28,900 and different research institutes that we-- 346 00:16:28,988 --> 00:16:30,641 are known to be of concern. 347 00:16:30,728 --> 00:16:32,904 - We set up an undercover meeting 348 00:16:32,992 --> 00:16:35,429 with Shan Shi and Gang Liu. 349 00:16:35,516 --> 00:16:37,257 They think they're gonna meet with Lockheed. 350 00:16:37,344 --> 00:16:41,043 # # 351 00:16:41,130 --> 00:16:43,959 - And we knew that the three individuals 352 00:16:44,046 --> 00:16:47,310 from Trelleborg would be in Houston. 353 00:16:47,397 --> 00:16:50,487 And we find out that Kui Bo is going 354 00:16:50,574 --> 00:16:53,882 to fly to Boston to buy a bunch of equipment 355 00:16:53,969 --> 00:16:56,189 to send back to China. 356 00:16:56,276 --> 00:16:57,755 - At that point, there were subjects 357 00:16:57,842 --> 00:16:59,627 in three different states. 358 00:17:02,717 --> 00:17:06,373 - The plan was I would go to DC and interrogate 359 00:17:06,460 --> 00:17:08,940 Shi and Gang Liu. 360 00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:10,420 Crosby has to go to Boston. 361 00:17:10,507 --> 00:17:12,074 - Going to Boston made the most sense 362 00:17:12,161 --> 00:17:14,598 because Kui Bo has been there the entire time 363 00:17:14,685 --> 00:17:16,122 since its inception. 364 00:17:16,209 --> 00:17:17,732 That left Houston. 365 00:17:17,819 --> 00:17:18,993 We turned to Julie and-- 366 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,431 - Intelligence analysts are not usually 367 00:17:21,518 --> 00:17:23,954 used to interrogate subjects after they're arrested. 368 00:17:24,042 --> 00:17:27,742 This is a very rare circumstance. 369 00:17:27,829 --> 00:17:29,135 Crosby was worried. 370 00:17:29,222 --> 00:17:30,527 Like, there's no way they're gonna buy this. 371 00:17:30,614 --> 00:17:32,616 Are they even gonna get on the plane? 372 00:17:32,703 --> 00:17:34,314 - This doesn't work, then we don't really 373 00:17:34,401 --> 00:17:36,446 have any other backup plan. 374 00:17:36,533 --> 00:17:39,058 narrator: But two of the top executives take the bait 375 00:17:39,145 --> 00:17:41,495 and fly to DC for the meeting. 376 00:17:41,582 --> 00:17:44,106 - So we rent this temporary room 377 00:17:44,193 --> 00:17:45,934 where they give the presentation. 378 00:17:46,021 --> 00:17:47,327 - Thank you. 379 00:17:52,941 --> 00:17:54,595 - Come on in. Make yourself at home. 380 00:17:54,682 --> 00:17:56,901 - We had three undercovers in the meeting. 381 00:17:59,382 --> 00:18:01,210 We had WFO watching-- - WFO doing surveillance. 382 00:18:01,297 --> 00:18:03,169 - And we were watching live. 383 00:18:14,441 --> 00:18:17,096 narrator: Shan Shi and Gang Liu boast 384 00:18:17,183 --> 00:18:18,314 about their latest projects. 385 00:18:34,025 --> 00:18:35,766 - Oh, okay. Okay. 386 00:18:35,853 --> 00:18:38,334 narrator: Then, a familiar name pops up. 387 00:18:38,421 --> 00:18:40,249 Trelleborg, the company from which 388 00:18:40,336 --> 00:18:43,165 Gang Liu stole technical specifications 389 00:18:43,252 --> 00:18:45,036 for syntactic foam. 390 00:18:56,831 --> 00:18:58,528 - You know, they're really pleased with themselves. 391 00:18:58,615 --> 00:19:00,313 They think they're gonna get the contract. 392 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,184 - With Lockheed. - Right, with Lockheed. 393 00:19:11,411 --> 00:19:14,849 - And, at one point, Gang Liu, he's talking about, 394 00:19:14,936 --> 00:19:17,199 we made these for the PLA Navy, 395 00:19:17,286 --> 00:19:19,419 and they are these sonobuoys that float. 396 00:19:19,506 --> 00:19:21,899 You know, they're used to find submarines. 397 00:19:21,986 --> 00:19:24,250 And then the undercover is, like, wait, 398 00:19:24,337 --> 00:19:26,904 you made this for the PLA Navy? 399 00:19:26,991 --> 00:19:28,515 Like, you know-- 400 00:19:28,602 --> 00:19:30,125 Like our enemy, basically? 401 00:19:38,568 --> 00:19:41,223 I'm just gonna-- 402 00:19:41,310 --> 00:19:42,964 - And then-- - He realized, oops, 403 00:19:43,051 --> 00:19:44,400 I better not talk about it. - Yeah. 404 00:19:44,487 --> 00:19:46,097 Shan Shi jumps in, and he's, like, 405 00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:48,099 we try to follow the law, and we-- 406 00:19:48,187 --> 00:19:50,014 - We try not to work with the Chinese military, 407 00:19:50,101 --> 00:19:51,451 is what he says. - Right. 408 00:19:59,328 --> 00:20:01,156 - The presentation took about an hour, 409 00:20:01,243 --> 00:20:02,810 and they're sitting there thinking, 410 00:20:02,897 --> 00:20:04,725 you know, they're gonna make millions of dollars. 411 00:20:06,857 --> 00:20:08,294 They finished their presentation, 412 00:20:08,381 --> 00:20:11,558 and the undercovers say, hey, this was great. 413 00:20:11,645 --> 00:20:12,950 You know, we're really interested, 414 00:20:13,037 --> 00:20:14,909 but we have to call our CEO. 415 00:20:14,996 --> 00:20:16,519 They think they're getting the contract, 416 00:20:16,606 --> 00:20:18,652 and they're gonna make all this money. 417 00:20:18,739 --> 00:20:22,917 And then, eventually, a whole squad of FBI agents comes in 418 00:20:23,004 --> 00:20:24,397 and handcuffs them. 419 00:20:24,484 --> 00:20:26,877 And the looks on their faces are, you know, 420 00:20:26,964 --> 00:20:28,792 shock and surprise. 421 00:20:28,879 --> 00:20:30,185 - Shi was one of them. 422 00:20:30,272 --> 00:20:31,230 - Yeah, Shi was one of them. 423 00:20:31,317 --> 00:20:32,709 Gang Liu the other. 424 00:20:32,796 --> 00:20:35,321 And the third person, it was his first day. 425 00:20:35,408 --> 00:20:36,887 They just hired him, and they're, like, 426 00:20:36,974 --> 00:20:38,411 we need you to go to this presentation. 427 00:20:38,498 --> 00:20:39,760 He's sitting there-- - Oh, my God. 428 00:20:39,847 --> 00:20:40,935 - As the FBI comes and arrests everyone. 429 00:20:41,022 --> 00:20:42,458 - He has no clue. 430 00:20:42,545 --> 00:20:43,372 - And he's like, I'm not with them. 431 00:20:43,459 --> 00:20:44,460 - Yeah. 432 00:20:44,547 --> 00:20:46,854 - So Crosby gets Kui Bo to confess. 433 00:20:46,941 --> 00:20:49,291 Julie get Sam to confess. 434 00:20:49,378 --> 00:20:52,425 # # 435 00:21:00,868 --> 00:21:01,912 - Yeah. 436 00:21:06,830 --> 00:21:10,530 # # 437 00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:21,323 - I interrogate Gang Liu. 438 00:21:36,686 --> 00:21:38,079 And I'm confronting him with, like, look, 439 00:21:38,166 --> 00:21:39,428 you sent these trade secrets. 440 00:21:43,693 --> 00:21:46,174 - And after, like an hour, he breaks down, 441 00:21:46,261 --> 00:21:47,567 and he's, like, yes, I did it. 442 00:21:51,179 --> 00:21:54,443 - It was at Gang Liu's house, we find a backpack 443 00:21:54,530 --> 00:21:57,185 with all these Trelleborg formulas. 444 00:21:57,272 --> 00:21:58,882 He printed those out and walked out with them 445 00:21:58,969 --> 00:22:00,971 because he still had access, 446 00:22:01,058 --> 00:22:03,713 and that's why Shan Shi hired him. 447 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,586 # # 448 00:22:06,673 --> 00:22:08,370 Everyone confesses, right, 449 00:22:08,457 --> 00:22:10,024 and everyone cooperates with us, 450 00:22:10,111 --> 00:22:11,721 except Shan Shi. 451 00:22:11,808 --> 00:22:14,245 His interrogation is like three hours of him denying 452 00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:16,422 and lying about everything. 453 00:22:51,239 --> 00:22:58,289 # # 454 00:23:05,296 --> 00:23:06,776 - Four subjects pleaded guilty. 455 00:23:06,863 --> 00:23:08,735 - One fled. - One fled. 456 00:23:08,822 --> 00:23:11,172 - Gang Liu snuck to DC and boarded 457 00:23:11,259 --> 00:23:14,001 an Air China flight directly, so they definitely helped him. 458 00:23:17,439 --> 00:23:19,920 - In 2015, China committed publicly that 459 00:23:20,007 --> 00:23:22,662 it would not target American companies 460 00:23:22,749 --> 00:23:24,577 for economic gain. 461 00:23:24,664 --> 00:23:27,449 Obviously, that commitment has not been met. 462 00:23:27,536 --> 00:23:34,587 # # 463 00:23:41,768 --> 00:23:43,596 - It was the first case ever where we were 464 00:23:43,683 --> 00:23:46,642 able to intervene before a technology was stolen, 465 00:23:46,729 --> 00:23:48,339 rather than afterwards. 466 00:23:48,427 --> 00:23:50,559 And we're happy we were able to stop the technology 467 00:23:50,646 --> 00:23:52,213 from going to the PRC. 468 00:23:52,300 --> 00:23:54,302 Hopefully, it prevented the PRC 469 00:23:54,389 --> 00:23:55,999 from building better submarines. 470 00:23:56,086 --> 00:23:58,045 - We're trying to be more proactive. 471 00:23:58,132 --> 00:24:00,569 The FBI is trying to get out in front of the private sector 472 00:24:00,656 --> 00:24:02,789 and say, this is what you need to worry about 473 00:24:02,876 --> 00:24:04,834 because we don't want this to happen again. 474 00:24:04,921 --> 00:24:07,402 We would rather prevent it than prosecute it. 475 00:24:07,489 --> 00:24:09,665 - Submarines are the key to everything. 476 00:24:09,752 --> 00:24:12,581 They're our biggest advantage against other countries. 477 00:24:12,668 --> 00:24:15,192 If we ever do go to war with China, 478 00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:17,412 it'll be a naval war in the South China Sea 479 00:24:17,499 --> 00:24:19,414 or a conflict over Taiwan. 480 00:24:19,501 --> 00:24:20,850 That technology is going to either 481 00:24:20,937 --> 00:24:23,244 save thousands of U.S. sailors, 482 00:24:23,331 --> 00:24:25,681 or it's going to get them killed. 483 00:24:33,515 --> 00:24:40,566 # # 36538

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