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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,200 (DISTANT CHURCH BELLS RING) 2 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,720 NARRATOR: 'Fame requires every kind of excess. 3 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,160 I mean, true fame. 4 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,400 A devouring neon. 5 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,720 Long journeys across grey space. 6 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,040 Danger. 7 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,320 The edge of every void. 8 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,240 Understand the man who must inhabit these extreme regions. 9 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,920 Even if half-mad, he is absorbed into the public's total madness. 10 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,240 Even if fully rational, a bureaucrat in Hell, 11 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,560 a secret genius of survival, 12 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,680 he is sure to be destroyed by the public's contempt for survivors.' 13 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,720 MALE INTERVIEWER: What are you working on at the moment 14 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,000 inside yourself? 15 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,400 SYD BARRETT: I can't really say. 16 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,520 Maybe this would be very valuable, this break, 17 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,160 to try painting again after a break of going into pop music. 18 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,920 I don't know. 19 00:01:25,960 --> 00:01:27,400 If I wanted to say nothing, 20 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:32,640 or if I want to act in an extraordinary way, 21 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,920 then I feel that that, too, is justified. 22 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,160 (BIRDS CHIRPING) 23 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,040 NEWSCASTER: Syd Barrett, one of the founding members of Pink Floyd, 24 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,080 has died at the age of 60. 25 00:01:43,960 --> 00:01:47,400 A statement from the band described him as "a guiding light 26 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,480 who leaves a legacy which continues to inspire". 27 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,080 He left the Pink Floyd in 1968 28 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,120 and lived as a recluse in Cambridge 29 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,920 for three decades. 30 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,640 (BIRDS CHIRPING) 31 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,480 # PINK FLOYD: Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Pts. 1-5) 32 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,840 # (WISTFUL INSTRUMENTAL INTRO) 33 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,600 MALE INTERVIEWER: How would you describe now, 34 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:21,000 in your maturity... 35 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,920 (CHUCKLES WRILY) Thank you. 36 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,320 ..his contribution to Pink Floyd? 37 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,560 ROGER WATERS: Well, it wouldn't have existed, if it hadn't been for Syd. 38 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,000 We would have been one of those thousands and thousands of bands 39 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,080 who come up and they play blues and Louie Louie. 40 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,840 They might write the odd crappy song 41 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,560 and then they disappear, you know? 42 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,160 They get proper jobs and that's the end of it. 43 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,000 # PINK FLOYD: Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Pts. 1-5) 44 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,240 MAN: I discovered Pink Floyd's music 45 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,120 through the music they made in the late '70s. 46 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,040 For people that got into Pink Floyd at that point 47 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,840 and were listening to those records first 48 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,440 and they knew that there had been this guy Syd in the band, 49 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,960 the story was always, "Oh, he went mad and left the group." 50 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,480 That's all we knew about it. 51 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,360 # (TRACK CONTINUES) 52 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,360 MAN: There was religious acid-taking at that time. 53 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,280 Syd was one of the sort of saints 54 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,760 of that underground cult. 55 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,960 MAN: Literature - the Bible, for example - is full of people 56 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,080 who deliberately isolated themselves, 57 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,800 the hermits who went into the desert. 58 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,840 People who had visions, 59 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,880 who preferred to be on their own, 60 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,640 and others who, having those experiences, 61 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,040 were determined to preach to the multitude. 62 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,840 (BIRDS CHIRPING) 63 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,400 The romantic ideal is 64 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:53,880 that a creative person is drawn by something so powerful 65 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,960 that he or she will follow that 66 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,320 regardless of the price that has to be paid. 67 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,880 These people are out there in front. 68 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,920 They're not looking over their shoulder. 69 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,960 They're just gonna do it. 70 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,640 YOUNG MAN: Syd is the ultimate kind of loner. 71 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,320 It's the same a little bit with Brian Jones, or something. 72 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,360 # (WISTFUL ELECTRIC-GUITAR SOLO) 73 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,320 (WHOOSH) 74 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,320 MAN: I suppose what is sad is about somebody 75 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,560 who is still extremely relevant 76 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,600 just decides to stop. 77 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,200 It's OK when someone carries on into irrelevance 78 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,200 and then stops. No-one cares. 79 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,440 The last thing he was interested in 80 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,200 was explaining himself 81 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,320 and, consequently, he became a figure 82 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,920 of intense, focused interest, 83 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,640 because there was a mystery there. 84 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,480 MAN: He is the perfect god, you see. 85 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:07,280 A god must actually be killed and eaten, 86 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,600 but then he must be reborn. 87 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,200 # (EMOTIVE ELECTRIC-GUITAR RIFF) 88 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,880 # (PERCUSSION BUILDS) 89 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,080 # (ORCHESTRATION SWELLS) 90 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,480 'The life of Syd Barrett, 91 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,640 founding member of Pink Floyd, 92 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,080 is full of unanswered questions. 93 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,280 Though he named the group and wrote their first two hit songs, 94 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,280 Barrett was later pushed out of the band by its members, 95 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,160 who were convinced he was having an LSD-induced psychotic breakdown.' 96 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,720 (FILM REEL WHIRS) 97 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,600 'But to examine the complex story of Syd Barrett, 98 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,640 one needs to take a trip.' 99 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,440 (PANTING) 100 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,760 'A trip back to the picturesque and historic 101 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,520 English university town of Cambridge.' 102 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,680 # SYD BARRETT: Dominoes (ACOUSTIC-GUITAR INTRO) 103 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,480 # It's an idea someday 104 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,520 # In my tears, my dreams 105 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,920 # Don't you want to see her proof? 106 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,680 # Life that comes of no harm 107 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,640 # You and I 108 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,840 # You and I and dominoes 109 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,040 # The day goes by... 110 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,160 'Roger Keith Barrett was born in Cambridge 111 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,200 on January 6 1946, 112 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,200 one of five children, 113 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,880 closest to his sister Rosemary.' 114 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,040 He was always wanting the next bit of fun... 115 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,600 ..and if it didn't arrive, then he'd make it. 116 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,760 I can remember once, at the dinner table, 117 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,840 when he had a little bit of cabbage 118 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,440 sticking out of his mouth, 119 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:06,640 and he knew it was there 120 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,200 and he kept it there for the whole meal 121 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,480 and pretended he didn't know. 122 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,840 Of course, everybody was giggling, because it just... 123 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,600 His face was, "I know it's there, 124 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,920 I know you're laughing at me but I'm going to ignore it." 125 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,360 # Life that comes... # 126 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,320 'Barrett's father, a pathologist and avid botanist, 127 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,800 encouraged the artistic leanings of his son, 128 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,400 who loved to write and draw. 129 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,320 By the age of 13 or 14, 130 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,040 Roger had acquired the nickname "Syd" 131 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,520 from his friends at school, 132 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:37,320 as legend has it, after a local jazz bass player, Syd "the Beat" Barrett. 133 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,440 At home, he remained Roger or Rog.' 134 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,360 # PINK FLOYD: Butterfly 135 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,760 I'm speaking at this level. I'm speaking at this level. 136 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,080 MAN: OK. This is er...Slate 3. 137 00:07:55,120 --> 00:08:01,040 I believe Storm's interview is at 8:10.Big clap. 138 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:03,920 My name is Storm. 139 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,560 I knew Syd in the early '60s. 140 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:06,880 We were both at the same school 141 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,440 as Roger and Dave, who became Pink Floyd, obviously. 142 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,520 The peer group in Cambridge that Syd was part of 143 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,160 was full of aspiring artists. 144 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,880 Not businessmen, not medical, 145 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,320 not lawyers. 146 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,320 Syd was not unusual and seemed to be, as it were, one of the gang. 147 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,040 The group evolved by itself. 148 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,320 Nobody was really the leader. 149 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,840 The centres of Seamus and Storm 150 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,200 was simply because their mothers were very indulgent 151 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,600 towards teenage boys. 152 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,560 STORM: The start came at Cherry Hinton Road 153 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,240 and your mother's house. 154 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:45,640 I tended to be into... 155 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:47,520 beer and jazz and students 156 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:51,360 and your lot were more into drugs and rock music and cool people. 157 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:52,640 I deny it totally! 158 00:08:52,680 --> 00:08:54,920 I went to the county high school, 159 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,600 Cambridgeshire High School for Boys, 160 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,040 and was in the same year as Syd. 161 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:03,280 We had to choose between woodwork, metalwork and art, 162 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,800 so I went into the art class 163 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,880 and there discovered a bunch of people who were useless, 164 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,680 a teacher who was equally useless, 165 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,800 but one student, by the name of Roger Barrett, 166 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,440 had a flair way beyond his years. 167 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,520 'The Christmas holiday of 1961 168 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:23,000 was overshadowed by his father's death from cancer 169 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,200 just a month before Syd's 16th birthday. 170 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,320 Syd's family moves to 183 Hills Road. 171 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,200 Libby Gausden lives several houses up the street.' 172 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,560 I met Syd I think in 1961. 173 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,400 We'd have both been 15. 174 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:37,800 STORM: Where did you meet? 175 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,480 I met him at Jesus Green, 176 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,400 which is a wonderful place in Cambridge. 177 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,440 I'd been swimming and diving, actually, with Dave Gilmour, 178 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,160 and after the swimming, I came out with some friends 179 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,920 and we were messing about 180 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,240 on the see-saw outside, and I met Syd there. 181 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,440 He was kind, he was gentle, he was generous. 182 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,440 He liked buying presents. 183 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,240 He wrote to me all the time. 184 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,000 STORM: I had always thought of you as Syd's first major girlfriend. 185 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,720 We were always together.When you went out with him, how was he? 186 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,960 It always looked like he was full of the joys of spring, 187 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,000 which he was. 188 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,120 # (ELECTRIC GUITAR PLAYS) 189 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:14,680 STORM: Let's go back, way back 190 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,120 to the early '60s. 191 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,840 What is your sort of abiding memory of Syd? 192 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,360 Erm, just a guy who was fiercely intelligent 193 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,080 and loads of fun. 194 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,920 Life was just too easy for him, really, in a way. 195 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,520 He had huge gifts 196 00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:33,640 which were natural to him, so he didn't see them as huge. 197 00:10:33,680 --> 00:10:36,400 Everything he turned his hand to worked. 198 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,360 The girls worked, the painting worked, the music worked, 199 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,240 the friendships worked. 200 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,200 STORM: I always remember Syd's hair. MAN: Do you?Yeah. 201 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:45,880 Curly, black... Yeah. 202 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,800 Lovely - and I also remember his walk. 203 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,320 He smelt nice. 204 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,280 Sorry? He smelt nice. (CHUCKLES) 205 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,280 You could see this extraordinary buoyancy, 206 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,240 which was most clearly evidenced in the way he walked. 207 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,840 He walked with a bounce. He walked on the front of his feet 208 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,080 with his heels off the ground all the time. 209 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,000 You could spot him several hundred yards away in Cambridge 210 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,560 wandering up the street. 211 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,160 We used to go on my Vespa 212 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,440 down to Hills Road 213 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,120 for Sunday-afternoon jam sessions, 214 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,960 where I saw Syd playing guitar 215 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,160 for the first time. 216 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,400 # PINK FLOYD: Butterfly (Intro guitar chords) 217 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,720 The music side of the story really begins 218 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,440 with Geoff Mott And The Mottoes, 219 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,040 of which Syd was an august member. 220 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,800 I remember when Syd bought his first Futurama. 221 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,200 It was bright red, as I recall, 222 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,360 and he used to learn Duane Eddy things on it, 223 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,680 like Walk Don't Run. 224 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,040 # PINK FLOYD: Double O Bo 225 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,840 WATERS: We'd started to go to shows in London 226 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,440 and I remember sitting on the train 227 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,680 having seen Gene Vincent. 228 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,240 We sat there with a piece of paper 229 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,240 and figured out the amplification 230 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,440 for the band that we were gonna be, 231 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,520 and it had, like, two Vox AC30s drawn on it 232 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:03,840 and we were going, 233 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,440 "Well, the vocals and the bass, 234 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,320 and then this can go through this one. 235 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,520 The rhythm guitar... Will we have a keyboard?" 236 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:11,400 "Mm... Don't know - maybe." 237 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,040 # SYD BARRETT: Effervescing Elephant He used to appear at parties, 238 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,360 of which we had quite a lot of in Cambridge at that time... 239 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,920 (INSECTS CHIRRUP) # An effervescing elephant 240 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,680 # With tiny eyes and great big trunk 241 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,680 # Once whispered to the tiny ear 242 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,640 # The ear of one inferior 243 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:27,880 # That by next June he'd die Oh yeah 244 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,840 # Because the tiger would... 245 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,520 ..and he used to play a lot of the songs 246 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:33,840 that later became songs on his album, 247 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,400 but because he was just, as it were, one of the gang, 248 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,640 I don't think anybody thought anything about him. 249 00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:41,040 # ..one of you 250 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,560 # I much prefer something to chew 251 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,760 # And you're all too scant Oh yeah 252 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,880 # He ate the elephant # 253 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,160 (INSECTS CHIRRUP) 254 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,040 He had this grin that you could mistake for a smirk, 255 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,840 but it wasn't - it was almost 256 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,720 like he knew something you didn't know. 257 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,600 He was one of those people 258 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,280 that was part of the crowd, very much so, 259 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,760 and then, the next minute, he'd slipped away from a room 260 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,640 and it'd be, "Where's Syd?" Nobody knows. 261 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:06,960 (HUM OF CONVERSATION) 262 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,520 # PINK FLOYD: Remember Me (Punchy opening chords) 263 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,520 'Syd's enthusiasm for painting 264 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:17,240 sees him enrol at the Cambridge School of Art in 1962. 265 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,440 Simultaneously, he discovers Beat poetry, 266 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,960 Kerouac and rhythm and blues. 267 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,200 He gets into The Beatles and sees the Rolling Stones in concert.' 268 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,800 He drew very often 269 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,480 with a lovely kind of whirly, twirly drawing quality. 270 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,760 Very refined line, I would say. 271 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,480 He seemed to me a born painter 272 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,200 and to have, really, the temperament of a born painter - 273 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,400 slightly recessive and contemplative. 274 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,960 I'd taken up painting. 275 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,200 David Gale suggested that we have an exhibition together. 276 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,000 It is our first venture into commercial art. 277 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,560 A total failure - STORM: Did you sell anything? 278 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,400 No, we sold nothing. 279 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,880 We used to have jam sessions with the guitar 280 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:01,800 in the art school 281 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,640 and later, joined by Dave, 282 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:06,800 in the common room to the whole technical college. 283 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,000 GILMOUR: We loved Beatles and Stones 284 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,400 and the blues stuff - Chuck and Bo. 285 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,880 I can remember learning Come On... STORM: Stones? 286 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,160 ..by the Stones, and Off The Hook. 287 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,240 I can see in my mind the back bench 288 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:21,960 against one of the walls 289 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,240 and people sitting there at, probably, ten the morning 290 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:25,800 and just strumming away. 291 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,200 # Remember me # (FAST-PACED BLUES GUITAR) 292 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,160 STORM: Do you remember whether you were impressed by his paintings 293 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,880 or by his personality?I was more impressed by his personality. 294 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,200 He just looked like somebody who was going places. 295 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:42,000 He was quite a star in our small firmament, as it was at the time. 296 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,280 # Don't go away now 297 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,840 # Come and stick around some more # 298 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,560 He was very unusual, very interesting. 299 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,720 STORM: "The complete package", I believe you'd say? 300 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,680 The complete package. 301 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:58,600 STORM: Jenny, dear, 302 00:14:58,640 --> 00:14:59,840 when did you first meet Syd 303 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,280 and how was he? 304 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,000 I met him in the Cambridge Student Union Cellars 305 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,720 and he was playing with a band called Those Without. 306 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,960 He came up and said hello, 307 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,120 introduced himself.When did you start going steady, as it were? 308 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,280 Well, a week later, a week after that, 309 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:16,880 he phoned me and said 310 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,120 he would like to meet up and have coffee, 311 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,160 so I met him in the Guild, 312 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,680 and he wrote to me and said 313 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,280 that he'd drawn a picture of me leaning against the bar 314 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,320 and he sent this picture 315 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,800 with a beautiful piece of pink tissue paper written on it, 316 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,920 "I love you, I love you, I love you. 317 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,760 I can't stop thinking about you." 318 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:35,800 # SYD BARRETT: Feel 319 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,760 # How I love you to be by my side 320 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,600 # They wail # 321 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:41,920 # (ACOUSTIC-GUITAR CHORDS) 322 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,120 STORM: And how long did you go out with him? 323 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,160 GAUSDEN: I probably saw him nearly every day 324 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,440 from '61 to '63. 325 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,720 I think he went to art school in London...'64, 326 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,880 so that was a bit of a messy year. 327 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,920 # Listen all you girlies 328 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,400 # Even though I haven't met you 329 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:00,960 # Gonna catch you... 330 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,920 'In September 1964, Syd moves to London.' 331 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,360 # You'd better watch out # 332 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,200 In 1960-whatever it was, 333 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,000 he duly arrived and he moved into the apartment 334 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,400 that I was already sharing 335 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,840 with Nick Mason and Rick Wright. 336 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,000 STORM: Mike Leonard's place? Mike Leonard's place. 337 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,480 We were Leonard's Lodgers. 338 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,600 # PINK FLOYD: Lucy Leave 339 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,600 WATERS: Bob Klose was in the band. 340 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,920 As soon as Syd arrived, things changed, 341 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,680 because Syd had other aspirations. 342 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:41,080 Syd tuned into that whole West Coast thing. 343 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,160 If you asked me, "What did Love do?" 344 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,120 I'd go, "I've no fuckin' idea," but I know Syd did. 345 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,720 He was one of the most emotionally and intellectually curious people 346 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,000 that I've ever met. 347 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:57,920 'Gigging under various names 348 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,000 - the Architectural Abdabs and The Tea Set - 349 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,480 Syd renames their band The Pink Floyd Sound 350 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,840 by combining the names of two obscure bluesmen, 351 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,720 Pink Anderson and Floyd Council. 352 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,760 Bob Klose leaves the band 353 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,440 as they start moving towards more improvised music, 354 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,600 largely as backing tracks to their increasingly elaborate light shows.' 355 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:18,960 # (HAUNTING PERCUSSION) 356 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,520 'Syd starts to write songs 357 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,000 including Let's Roll Another One, 358 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,200 which later becomes Candy And A Currant Bun 359 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,360 and Bob Dylan Blues. 360 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,600 The band becomes solidified 361 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,880 with Syd on guitar, Roger Waters on bass, 362 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,240 Rick Wright on keyboards 363 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:34,840 and Nick Mason on drums.' 364 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,360 # PINK FLOYD: Nick's Boogie 365 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,440 STORM: When you were at Camberwell with Syd, 366 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:44,760 what kind of guy was he? 367 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,560 The thing that I really remember 368 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,040 is his innocence - 369 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,320 all this very glamorous dark, curly hair, 370 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:53,520 very alive eyes 371 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,400 and a general air of glamour about him, 372 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,520 but he had this innocence, almost like a child. 373 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,000 He painted with great energy, 374 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,880 terrific sense of colour 375 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,200 and what I remember is big, very painterly abstract paintings. 376 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,040 Towards the end of that first year, 377 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,600 he went to Robert Medley, who was head of painting, 378 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,360 and he said to Robert, 379 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,680 "At the moment, with my group I'm getting £200 a week." 380 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,040 A lot of money. STORM: A fortune, really. 381 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,320 He said, "Could I possibly have the year off, have a sabbatical?" 382 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,120 # PINK FLOYD: Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Pts. 1-5) 383 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,200 His college work was important and he'd write to me and say, 384 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,240 "Oh, I've got to do a painting this size so I can stay on next year, 385 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,560 but I wrote this really nice song." 386 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,800 STORM: So did Syd then leave for a year? 387 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,600 He left and he didn't come back. 388 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,440 # PINK FLOYD: Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Pts. 1-5) 389 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:56,120 (DOOR CREAKS) 390 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,840 (NO AUDIBLE SPEECH) 391 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,200 # (EXPRESSIVE ELECTRIC-GUITAR CADENCE) 392 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:05,880 SYD BARRETT: Having left art school, 393 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,800 there are a lot of things that I could do, 394 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,720 a lot of things I see now, a lot of things that went into me... 395 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,240 # (EXPRESSIVE GUITAR CADENCE) 396 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,280 ..thinking that these were, perhaps, changing 397 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,400 and altering things. 398 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,480 (SEDUCTIVE CALLS) # (PERCUSSION BUILDS) 399 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,280 # (EXPRESSIVE GUITAR CADENCE) 400 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,080 # (ELECTRIC GUITAR AND PERCUSSION INTENSIFY) 401 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,720 # (BLUESY, WISTFUL MELODY) 402 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,920 'Roger Keith Barrett, aspiring painter, 403 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:01,520 drops out of art school 404 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,120 so that Syd Barrett, pop star, may be born. 405 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,400 Before long, Barrett would find himself at the epicentre 406 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,440 of the biggest underground movement ever to hit Britain.' 407 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,920 # PINK FLOYD: Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Instrumental break) 408 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,960 (HUM OF CONVERSATION) 409 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,240 MAN: You've got a bright future. 410 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,760 (MUSIC FADES AWAY) 411 00:20:30,128 --> 00:20:32,360 There's a general sea change goes on 412 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,880 in English music anyway, during 1965-'66. 413 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,760 You get a band like The Paramounts turning to Procol Harum 414 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,640 and stop doing cover versions of Poison Ivy 415 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,080 and, within two years, they're doing A Whiter Shade Of Pale 416 00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:46,720 and I think Syd is at the very cutting edge of that movement. 417 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,760 I think Syd's one of the first ones who transforms 418 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,000 from just copying R&B 419 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,400 to actually doing something utterly new. 420 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:55,920 # PINK FLOYD: Candy And A Currant Bun 421 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,440 RAWLINSON: We were reading Alan Watts, Marvel comics, 422 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:05,320 Kerouac and Cybernetics - all at the same time. 423 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:08,320 Syd was an extraordinarily quick absorber. 424 00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:09,560 It was just a series of, 425 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,640 "Look at this! Listen to this! What about this?" 426 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,840 And it was just going on and on and on and on. 427 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,960 All of the arts, all simultaneously 428 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,280 and then we can just throw LSD into the mix, if you feel like it. 429 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,400 # SYD BARRETT: Milky Way 430 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,560 # What'd you ever say today 431 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,040 # When you're in the milky way 432 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,640 # Oh, tell me please 433 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,880 # Just to give you a squeeze 434 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,160 # (ACOUSTIC GUITAR STRUMS) 435 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,280 # If I met you 436 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,640 # I told you 437 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,400 # What to do 438 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,560 # Seems a while 439 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,520 # Since I could smile 440 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,600 # The way you do # 441 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,880 # (GUITAR CHORDS) 442 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,360 There was a lot of rumours going around, you know, 443 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,920 that acid can damage your brain 444 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,080 and hippies would say, "Ah, it's just the CIA, man, 445 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:08,360 saying that to stop you taking acid, stop you eating live kittens." 446 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,920 (LOWING) 447 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,760 According to the accounts that I've read, 448 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,120 everybody was on acid in my parents' back garden. 449 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,280 This is not true. 450 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,960 I think the only person there who was on acid - maybe two people - 451 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,040 were Paul Charrier and Sunny Syd. 452 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,680 I believe there was a water fight. 453 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,280 The bathroom window on the top floor banged open... 454 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,400 and there were shouts of joy 455 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,880 and we saw water coming out of the window, 456 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:37,440 Paul Charrier wielding the rose of the shower, spraying Syd 457 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,920 and they were just mucking about like six-year-olds. 458 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,000 People were sort of hanging around in the garden. 459 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,240 Syd went into the kitchen of the house, 460 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,240 found a box of matches, an orange and a plum 461 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,680 and sat down and looked at them. 462 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,400 Most of the time, what I remember 463 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,080 is Syd sitting quietly in the back garden of David Gale's house, 464 00:22:58,120 --> 00:22:59,720 holding and examining these objects. 465 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,640 RAWLINSON: At that time, everybody was dropping acid in London. 466 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,920 STORM: But not everybody's dropping acid like he was! 467 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,160 But he wasn't the only one 468 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,840 and there was a lot of discussion about how to take it. 469 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,960 Is there a big difference between 50 milligrams a day 470 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,200 or 100 or 250? 471 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,360 How many times a day? Once, twice or three times? 472 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,200 Is there a real difference between 250 milligrams 473 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,400 and 500 milligrams? 474 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,480 Acid was the drug of the time: 475 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:26,720 it's self-realisation, 476 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,120 speaking to God through acid, 477 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,000 it's the danger of opening doors 478 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,520 before you've spent 30 years in solitude 479 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,840 and preparing your soul and your spirit ready 480 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,800 for the big meeting with Big G. 481 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,040 That was one of the problems with acid. 482 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,960 It whooshed you right through that 30 years of preparation, 483 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,360 opened the door and bang! 484 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,720 There you are, at the centre of the celestial universe. 485 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,080 Deal with it, my son! 486 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:52,200 Two hours before, you were eating fish and chips down the corner! 487 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,480 Yaaaa! # (GUITAR STRUMS) 488 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,520 # SYD BARRETT: Two Of A Kind 489 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,200 # Open your eyes and don't be blind 490 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,640 He really did feel 491 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,760 that the psychedelic revolution 492 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,120 was flowing right through his body. 493 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,880 He did feel he was almost possessed against his will. 494 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,320 You know that story: 495 00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:14,440 "If you can remember the '60s, you weren't there." 496 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,720 It was the destruction 497 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,680 of the rational, predictable material world. 498 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:19,800 (MAN SCREAMING) 499 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,560 So-called "reality" was only one of many. 500 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,160 # PINK FLOYD: Nick's Boogie 501 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,280 # (HAUNTING PERCUSSION RHYTHM) 502 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,320 # (PSYCHEDELIC GUITAR EFFECTS) 503 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,360 (INDISTINCT CHANTING) 504 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,000 '1966 is the year the doors come off the hinges. 505 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,520 Fuelled by experimentation with mind-expanding drugs 506 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,800 flowing through the counterculture, 507 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,720 the seismic upheaval of postwar British society 508 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,360 spreads from politics and art 509 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,200 to fashion and music.' 510 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,120 You know, everybody was taking lots of drugs 511 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,520 and people liked these long things that you could really get into, 512 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,760 which really strung you out 513 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,800 and took you very slowly through various climactic trajectories. 514 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,760 # LOVE: My Little Red Book 515 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,400 We all liked Love's album, which was really good. 516 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,040 I was just saying to him, "I really love that song 517 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,560 which goes..." # (MIMICS SONG) 518 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,360 Little Red Book, or something like that. 519 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,600 I can't sing in tune to save my life. Syd said, 520 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,280 "Oh, you mean like this?" And he played it, 521 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,640 and that's what became Interstellar Overdrive. 522 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,480 It was that riff 523 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,200 as sort of...mangled by me 524 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,280 and then reinterpreted by Syd. 525 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,640 # PINK FLOYD: Interstellar Overdrive 526 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,240 # (FAST-PACED BASS RHYTHM) 527 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,600 # (ELECTRIC-GUITAR RIFF) 528 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,000 # (FAST-PACED BASS RHYTHM) 529 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,160 The big thing in those days was Friday night 530 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,720 at the UFO Club. 531 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,720 Not only did you have Pink Floyd, 532 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,160 you had The Soft Machine 533 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,120 and The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown. (AS ARTHUR BROWN) # Fire! # 534 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,280 # (HUMS TUNE) 535 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,800 Pete would have been supplying 536 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,560 psychedelic apparatus... 537 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,320 projection apparatus to the increasingly gigging Pink Floyd. 538 00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:12,000 STORM: Were you as excited by this as were the audience? 539 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,400 Oh, I don't know about the audience. I never gave them a thought. 540 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,280 STORM: I remember being in the audience, thinking... 541 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,240 this was probably the centre of the universe. 542 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,000 Yes, it was, indeed. 543 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,160 # PINK FLOYD: Interstellar Overdrive 544 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,800 The only time I've ever deliberately missed a gig with The Who 545 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,280 was I heard that Pink Floyd were doing a concert 546 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,800 and didn't tell the band, so the band went 547 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,000 and I went to the UFO Club with Eric 548 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,480 and took some acid and... 549 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,440 danced like a hippie. (LAUGHS) 550 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,240 # (PSYCHEDELIC KEYBOARD SOLO) 551 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,440 TOWNSHEND: The band come out with this interesting rig, 552 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,360 which was... 553 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,200 two Binson Echorec units. 554 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,280 They were considered to be an echo box from the era of... 555 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,080 # (MIMICS TWANGY GUITAR) 556 00:26:58,120 --> 00:26:59,920 Nobody used them, you know? 557 00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:03,320 Certainly Jimi Hendrix did not use an echo box 558 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:05,160 and neither did I 559 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,360 and neither did...Eric Clapton, you know, or Jimmy Page. 560 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,720 Nobody used them, but Syd had not just one but two. 561 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,720 He came out. He had a shock of black hair, 562 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,480 black makeup on his eyes 563 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,640 and the clothes that he were wearing were proper psychedelic outfits 564 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,360 and he was beautiful! 565 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,840 He plays a chord and it just goes, "Jang!" 566 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,560 And then nothing happens, so he pushes some buttons on this machine. 567 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,640 Plays another chord, "Jang!" Nothing happens. 568 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,680 Pushes another couple of buttons on the machine and suddenly it goes... 569 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,080 # (MIMICS ECHOING GUITAR EFFECT) 570 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:39,320 TOWNSHEND: Wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah... 571 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:42,040 # (REVERBERATING GUITAR ECHO) 572 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,640 ..you know, as analogue echo degrades. 573 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,920 Pushes another button on the other machine 574 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,280 and it goes into what we call in the music business "syncopated echo". 575 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,960 It goes, "Pow-pow-pow-pow, pa-pa-pa-pa, pow, pa-pa-pa-pa, pow! 576 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,640 Pa-pa-pa-pa, pow, pa-pa-pa-pa, pow!" 577 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,400 And Nick Mason starts to play 578 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,120 and then Roger Waters starts to play 579 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,160 and it just turns into this... what can only be described 580 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,600 as spectacular psychedelic heavy metal! 581 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,320 # (SPACEY, FAST-PACED IMPROVISATIONS) 582 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:13,200 (DISTORTED, REVERBERATING ECHOES) 583 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,000 # (CLIMACTIC SWIRLING MELODIES) 584 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:34,560 # (PSYCHEDELIC KEYBOARD SOLO AND CHIRPING SOUND EFFECTS) 585 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,560 # (HYPNOTIC DRUM RHYTHM) 586 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,560 CHAPMAN: Something suddenly kicks in. I don't think it's even gradual. 587 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,920 # (HAUNTING BASSLINE) Yes, you can say it's LSD. 588 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,400 Yes, you can say it's the Echoplex, it's the light shows... 589 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,680 There's all these interesting environmental things going on 590 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,120 in and around the music, but really, it's Syd. 591 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,000 The way the act's developed in the last six months 592 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,360 has been influenced rather a lot 593 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,040 by the fact we've played in ballrooms. 594 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,960 I think concerts have given us a chance to realise 595 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:09,840 that maybe the music we play isn't directed at dancing, necessarily, 596 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,040 like normal pop groups. 597 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,000 # PINK FLOYD: Astronomy Domine 598 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,200 (RAPID BEEPING) 599 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,000 # Lime and limpid green A second scene 600 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,520 # A fight between the blue you once knew 601 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,600 # Floating down the sound resounds 602 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,720 # Around the icy waters underground 603 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,040 Syd defined... 604 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,240 the whole of that moment in the '60s - 605 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,600 the colour, the vivacity of it, 606 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,560 the psychedelic freedom... 607 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,520 Without Syd, 608 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,480 something might have happened, eventually. 609 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,760 You couldn't overemphasise his importance, 610 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,760 because he was the creative genius. 611 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,800 # Woo 612 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,000 # (RAPID INSTRUMENTATION) 613 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,640 (SILENCE) 614 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,400 # (PSYCHEDELIC KEYBOARD CHORDS) 615 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,080 # Blinding signs flap 616 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,800 # Flicker, flicker, flicker, blam 617 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,520 # Pow, pow! 618 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,160 JENNER: I remember sitting with him 619 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,160 while he was looking into the stars book 620 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,080 and getting Astronomy Domine, which I had to read in the studio, 621 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,880 which he just took out of a book, and I love that. 622 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,960 # (ETHEREAL VOCALS) WHITEHEAD: They were so totally and unbelievably original. 623 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,360 You could say that the various technologies were available, 624 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,400 like Hammond organs, this, that and the other, 625 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,640 which gave them the opportunity of mixing popular music 626 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,120 with metaphysical ideas and science-fiction ideas. 627 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,280 The Floyd were never doing 19th Nervous Breakdown 628 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,280 or I Can't Get No Satisfaction. 629 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,320 # The icy 630 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:55,320 # Waters underground # 631 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,720 Why has it all got to be so terribly loud? 632 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,520 For me, frankly, it's too loud. I just can't bear it. 633 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,600 I happen to have grown up in the string quartet, 634 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,560 which is a bit softer. 635 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,560 If one gets immune to this kind of sound, 636 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,800 one may find it difficult to appreciate softer types of sound. 637 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,040 Syd - yes, no? 638 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,960 I don't think that's so. No? 639 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,480 I mean, everybody listens. 640 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,520 We don't need it very loud to be able to hear it 641 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,360 and with some of it, it is very quiet, in fact. 642 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,400 Do you, in your turn, feel aggressive towards your audiences? 643 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,200 WATERS: No, not at all.In spite of all the loudness, you don't? 644 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,040 No, not at all. There's -Sorry? 645 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,400 There's not many young people who sort of cause... 646 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,280 ..who dislike it, particularly. No shock treatment intended? 647 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,600 No, certainly not. 648 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,080 # PINK FLOYD: The Scarecrow (Rustic-style percussion intro) 649 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,800 # The black and green scarecrow 650 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,440 # As everyone knows 651 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,000 # Stood with a bird on his hat 652 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,320 # And straw everywhere 653 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,160 # He didn't care 654 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,640 # He stood in a field 655 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,120 # Where barley grows... 656 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,360 When Syd Barrett started writing for Pink Floyd, 657 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,200 he seemed to give it this very English voice, 658 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,080 which was unusual at the time. The Kinks were doing that, I guess, too. 659 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,200 # His head did no thinking 660 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,960 # His arms didn't move 661 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,240 He had a big attachment to more intellectual realms, 662 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,280 to the whole Hilaire Belloc thing and to Lewis Carroll. 663 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,480 He has a strange bridge between... 664 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,920 ..Edwardian musical, 665 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,360 Vaudeville 666 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,600 and his own particular brand of English psychedelia. 667 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,840 When you heard that music, it was in colour. 668 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,800 Everything else was in black and white. 669 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,120 # (UPBEAT MELODY ON ORGAN AND PERCUSSION) 670 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,560 WHITEHEAD: He's the Lake Poets. 671 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,760 He's an English Romantic of the 19th century. 672 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,480 He was not London 1966. 673 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,600 STORM: But he was London 1966. He happened to be, 674 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,720 but that was a cloak he wore. 675 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,400 # The black-and-green scarecrow 676 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,840 # Is sadder than me 677 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,040 # But now he's resigned... # 678 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,000 In his lyrics, there's many animal references: 679 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,280 there's a mouse called Gerald, there's the elephant, 680 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,520 there's fairies, scarecrows, cats... 681 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,000 It's a world 682 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,040 that I was always fascinated with. 683 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,280 MAN: In his songs, we have a painterly vision. 684 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,640 He evokes very strongly 685 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,720 references to sun, to shining, 686 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,360 to sea, to sparkles, to water... 687 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,120 All these things run through his songs 688 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,200 like a perpetual continuous thread. 689 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,840 Syd is a nature poet. 690 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,960 I heard, at one point, that his whole diet 691 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,600 consisted of hash and poetry. 692 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,760 I think I tried to do that 693 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,400 at some point in my 20s. (LAUGHS) 694 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,680 He's the original punk-rock icon 695 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,840 in what punk rock meant to me, 696 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,800 which was sort of breaking all the rules and having fun with it 697 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,840 and the spirit of play. 698 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,000 # Stained, glaucous, glycerine 699 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,840 # Gold, goat... # 700 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,160 To look good, to be able to play guitar, 701 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,000 to invent good melodies 702 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,320 and also to produce lyrics that... 703 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,640 ..made you think. 704 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,280 It's a very powerful set of tools to have at your disposal. 705 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,560 Syd had all this 706 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,200 churning around in his mind, 707 00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:10,680 like the rest of us did, 708 00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:15,280 but he makes connections that are so unexpected and strange 709 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,520 that no-one else in the world 710 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,320 could have made those connections. 711 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,280 Even early songs like Bike, for instance. 712 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,120 He'd written about a bike, 713 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,040 which, of course, is not a subject that most lyricists write about. 714 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,120 They write about "lurve" or death or illness or loss. 715 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,240 (BICYCLE BELL RINGS) "I've got a bike, 716 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,640 you can ride it if you like." 717 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,040 "It's got a basket, a bell that rings 718 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,080 and things that make it look good." 719 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,400 "I'd give it to you if I could, but I borrowed it." 720 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,760 I mean, where does this come from? 721 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,280 Every verse is like that, I think! 722 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,040 # PINK FLOYD: Bike 723 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,080 # (SYD BARRETT SINGS) 724 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,560 # You're the kind of girl... # 725 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,920 I suppose, things like Bike was more of a structured thing happening, 726 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,240 but sonically, towards the end, 727 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,800 I'd never really heard anything like that: 728 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,680 an oversaturation of sounds, clocks... (CLOCKS CHIME) 729 00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:16,040 ..and then this kind of repetitive... 730 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,400 (FRANTIC HONKING) ..sound 731 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,760 that sounded like a goose attacking you, you know? 732 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,480 STORM: Like a what? Like a goose attacking, 733 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,480 going into attack mode. Quite disturbing. 734 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:30,000 (AGGRESSIVE HONKING AND SQUAWKING) 735 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,520 The way LSD works, we now know, is, 736 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,360 it stimulates receptors in the brain 737 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,920 called serotonin receptors, 738 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,280 but a particular subtype of serotonin receptor 739 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,760 called the 5-HT or serotonin 2A receptor. 740 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,200 (WATER DRIPPING) 741 00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:48,080 Psychedelic drugs like LSD all work on those receptors 742 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,200 and what they do is to interrupt 743 00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:54,400 the traditional way in which the brain is organised. 744 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,440 Everything we do is orchestrated 745 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,720 in a very reflexive, habitual way. 746 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,760 LSD, by turning on those receptors, disrupts that... 747 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,080 ..so what then happens is that your brain, 748 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,800 rather than doing what it's been told to do by habit, 749 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,840 starts to do its own thing. 750 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,480 If you have regular conversations with God or the angels 751 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,800 and they're saying nice things to you, telling you how great you are, 752 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,880 you don't want to lose that. 753 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,280 On the other hand, if you're tormented by devils 754 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,160 or other persecutors, 755 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,840 you may, nevertheless, feel that you're important enough 756 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,720 for the Devil to take an interest in you 757 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,840 and that might give you enough kudos 758 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,800 to continue to carry on with this situation 759 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,560 without telling other people. 760 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:44,520 MAN: There's a lot of interest in the balance 761 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,360 between right brain and left brain. In very simplistic terms, 762 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,320 the right brain is the more creative, whole-picture side. 763 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,960 The left brain is the more focused, analytical, etc, side. 764 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,640 There's a little saying that "the problems in psychology 765 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,480 are when the right brain's got nothing left 766 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,160 and the left brain's got nothing right," 767 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,280 and there is a lot of interesting discussion 768 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,280 about the link between creativity and mental illness. 769 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,280 Carl Jung, the psychologist, had this great insight 770 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,720 where he talked about, from his studies of breakdown, 771 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,480 mental illness, 772 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,560 he called it a "failed initiation". 773 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,120 What he meant by that, 774 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,440 which I think is a really interesting thing to say, 775 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,880 was that, often, a breakdown is an attempt at a breakthrough. 776 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,520 It's an attempt to come into a new form of consciousness 777 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,320 and it's either premature 778 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,520 or, in some way, it falters. 779 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,240 SYD BARRETT: # A movement is accomplished in six stages # 780 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,560 STORM: I remember one particular interlude 781 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,040 where we went to see the Master 782 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,360 - that's Charan Singh Ji the something or other - 783 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,120 which was a guru that we were all thinking of following 784 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,440 in the heady days of psychedelia. 785 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,080 A few people there and then 786 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,840 said they wanted to become "initiated". 787 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,480 I don't like the word, but anyway. 788 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,240 Syd had asked for initiation 789 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,960 and the Master had said it's too early. 790 00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:03,920 STORM: Did you know why he said that? 791 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,360 Well, quite a lot of commitment in Sant Mat, 792 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,760 which is vegetarianism 793 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,400 and abstaining from mind-altering substances. 794 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,600 STORM: Is it possible that the rejection affected Syd? 795 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,840 LESMOIR-GORDON: Rejection affects us all... 796 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,120 ..and I think Charan Singh... 797 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,400 I don't know how deep his insights were - I think he had a lot, 798 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,000 but maybe he could see what was going to happen to Syd. 799 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,720 STORM: When you broke up, did you do it or did he do it? 800 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,240 It was me, I'm afraid.He was a great lover, a good boyfriend 801 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,480 and you got rid of him? (GIGGLES) Yeah. 802 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,080 Explain this to me, Jennifer Spires. 803 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,920 In the early days, he was lovely 804 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,200 cos he was very calm, he was an artist... 805 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:43,320 I got on the train 806 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,600 at Cambridge at one end 807 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,480 and Syd got on the train at the other end. (CHUCKLES) 808 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,960 That's how we started living at No.2 Earlham Street. 809 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,840 The whole clan went from there 810 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,760 to 101 Cromwell Road. 811 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,080 (GASPS IN MOCK HORROR) 101 Cromwell Road! (CHUCKLES) 812 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,000 A den of iniquity, if ever there was.Extraordinary place! 813 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,080 They'd just puff away at these enormous joints 814 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,800 and get completely out of their heads. 815 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,920 I feel woozy even thinking about it. 816 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,640 Then, you see, Syd and the Pink Floyd were really beginning then 817 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,840 and things were taking off. 818 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,600 So I think then, he was just losing the plot slightly. 819 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,080 I remember we had a cat called Rover. 820 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,840 Well, that was Syd, wasn't it? (BOTH LAUGH) 821 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,120 # PINK FLOYD: Improvised Instrumental (from Tomorrow's World) 822 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,160 # (MELLOW PSYCHEDELIC JAMMING) 823 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,600 'The Pink Floyd sound was a perfect match 824 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,320 for the spontaneous underground 825 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,680 and its multimedia events. 826 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:41,840 With Barrett's songwriting output flourishing, 827 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,560 the Pink Floyd were on their way.' 828 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,680 # (TRACK CONTINUES) 829 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,200 # PINK FLOYD: Flaming 830 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,480 (WHOOSHING) 831 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,440 # Alone in the clouds all blue 832 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,360 # Lying on an eiderdown 833 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,520 # Yippee You can't see me # 834 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,760 'Gigging a punishing four or five nights a week, 835 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,240 the group is approached by Peter Jenner and Andrew King, 836 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,760 who, promising to buy the band some new equipment, 837 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,080 become their managers. 838 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,040 King and Jenner scheme to get the band a record contract 839 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,680 by recording a few demo tracks with American producer Joe Boyd, 840 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:23,160 who also runs the legendary UFO Club 841 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,800 with John "Hoppy" Hopkins. 842 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,640 The plan works 843 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,200 and Pink Floyd sign to EMI Records in February 1967. 844 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,680 The very next day, they begin recording their debut album, 845 00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:37,440 The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn, 846 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,880 with Norman Smith at Abbey Road. 847 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,440 In the studio next door, 848 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,520 The Beatles are making their landmark LP - Sergeant Pepper. 849 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,120 There were a few casual songs he'd written early, 850 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,520 but the one which I'd call the first real, 851 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,000 "showing where we were going" song 852 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,280 was Arnold Layne. 853 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,160 # Arnold Layne Arnold Layne is released as a single 854 00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,400 on the 10th of March. 855 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,720 # Had a strange hobby 856 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,440 # Collecting clothes 857 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:13,480 # Moonshine washing line 858 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,480 KING: Syd worked very hard at Arnold Layne. 859 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,040 He told me it had taken him 860 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,800 a couple of months to write the lyric, 861 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,480 to get it just the way he wanted it. STORM: Really? It wasn't spontaneous?No. 862 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,840 # Hung a tall... 863 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,240 KING: This idea that Syd rolled out of bed at lunchtime, 864 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,600 took some acid and wrote a couple of genius songs 865 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,280 is just absolute crap. 866 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,320 # See-through baby blue 867 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,880 There's no such thing as easy art, Storm, is there? 868 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,440 Otherwise we'd all be doing it! 869 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,320 # La-a-a-ayne 870 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,920 # Arnold Layne, don't do it again # 871 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,760 'Despite being banned by Radio London for obscenity, 872 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,920 Arnold Layne reaches No.20 in the Singles Chart, 873 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,920 with the album Piper At The Gates Of Dawn reaching No.6. 874 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,240 ROCK: He was spectacular at the beginning. 875 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,840 From that Christmas through to the summer 876 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,240 when they released Arnold Lanye 877 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:06,840 and then The Piper, 878 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,560 Syd, and of course Hendrix, were kind of 879 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,600 the two big psychedelic stars. 880 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,600 # PINK FLOYD: Take Up Thy Stethoscope And Walk 881 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,640 # (PUNCHY PERCUSSION) 882 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,360 ROGER WATERS: # Doctor, doctor # I'm in bed 883 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,600 # Doctor, doctor # Achin' head 884 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,280 # Doctor, doctor # Gold is lead 885 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,560 'In May 1967, Pink Floyd mounts a multimedia psychedelic concert, 886 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,240 Games For May, at the Queen Elizabeth Hall. 887 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,360 Barrett has written a new song for the event, 888 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,480 whose title, also Games For May, 889 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,320 changes to become the era-defining See Emily Play. 890 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,640 # (PSYCHEDELIC ELECTRIC GUITAR) 891 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,080 # Used spoon # 892 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,960 He started innovating his music with a Zippo lighter on his Stratocaster, 893 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,000 sliding it up and down, 894 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,200 and in gigs, suddenly, he was using this Zippo lighter 895 00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:52,600 to create these incredibly eerie sounds. 896 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,680 # PINK FLOYD: See Emily Play (Instrumental break) 897 00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:57,640 # (DYNAMIC DRUMBEAT, SWIRLING KEYBOARDS) 898 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:07,400 # Emily tries but misunderstands 899 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,280 # Ah-ooh 900 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,680 # She's often inclined to borrow 901 00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:14,520 # Somebody's dreams till tomorrow 902 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,440 # There is no other day 903 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,400 'See Emily Play becomes the second Pink Floyd hit single, 904 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,920 earning the group several crucial appearances 905 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,600 on the primetime BBC music show Top Of The Pops in July. 906 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,400 # Free games for May 907 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,800 # See-e-e-e Emily play 908 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,360 (DISTORTED SOUND) 909 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,400 # (WHIMSICAL, TINNY MELODY) 910 00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:44,080 # (PERCUSSION RESUMES) 911 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,000 # Soon after dark 912 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,280 # Emily cries 913 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,880 # Ah-ooh 914 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,680 # Gazing through trees in sorrow 915 00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:56,600 # Hardly a sound till tomorrow 916 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,160 # There is no other day 917 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,760 # Let's try it another way 918 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,880 # You'll lose your mind... # 919 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,520 When See Emily Play went to No.5, got into the Top Ten... 920 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,240 STORM: I remember it well. Yeah, I was really excited 921 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,520 and I'm wearing all these stupid clothes! 922 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,320 Yeah, but it was exciting, for God's sake. 923 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,120 It was very exciting, 924 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,440 but I remember erm... 925 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:21,880 Syd in the dressing room 926 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,480 sitting there and he looked a bit glum 927 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,840 and I went, "What's up?" He looked at me and he said, 928 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,400 "John Lennon doesn't have to do this." 929 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,200 Even when things were going as well as they could, 930 00:44:31,240 --> 00:44:33,160 the band actually was stressful. 931 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,120 I remember we were in Trafalgar Square. 932 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,120 We'd been in Green Park and then... 933 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,920 it was time to go to Top Of The Pops. 934 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,960 Syd said, "I don't really fancy it." 935 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,760 I said, "Well, yeah, but it's a bit of a big deal." 936 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,560 There was the famous three weeks 937 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,680 that we did See Emily Play on Top Of The Pops. 938 00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:52,640 The first week was fine. Syd looks really good. 939 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,720 He's sitting cross-legged on a great big Indian cushion. 940 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,120 The second week, he arrived late 941 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,640 looking very shambolic indeed. 942 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,240 Third week, we couldn't find him anywhere. 943 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,920 I opened the door and Syd was there 944 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,000 looking totally freaked out. 945 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,400 His feet were bare 946 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,080 and he said, "Hi, can I come in?" I said, "Of course you can," 947 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,760 and...he didn't say anything. 948 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,800 Then there was a bang on the door 949 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,920 and somebody was, like, (FURIOUS) "Is Syd in there?" 950 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,960 Whoever this person was came in 951 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,400 and just literally grabbed him and dragged him out! 952 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,440 # PINK FLOYD: Nick's Boogie 953 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,880 # (DISTORTED GUITAR) 954 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,920 # (SWIRLING SAXOPHONE AND DRUMS) 955 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,040 I think Syd Barrett was interested in this total freedom, 956 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:50,640 almost like a sort of erm... a jazz, really. 957 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,680 A kind of "divertimenti". 958 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,720 I suppose, trying to structure or rein in this kind of energy 959 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,160 might have been fairly difficult for him. 960 00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:05,200 # (PSYCHEDELIC JAMMING) 961 00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:07,480 NICK MASON: There'd been a lot of weird stuff on stage, 962 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,840 with Syd de-tuning guitars 963 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,880 and just turning it into a sort of mind-numbing sound. 964 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,080 We were committed to being a pop group 965 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,560 and Syd was absolutely on the way to being, 966 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,880 "No, I don't actually want to be a pop star." 967 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,920 # (DISTORTED GUITAR) 968 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,320 'The relentless gigging and demands of stardom 969 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,720 are taking their toll on Barrett's psyche.' 970 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,760 (MUSIC FADES OUT) 971 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,280 (INHALES AND EXHALES) 972 00:46:56,123 --> 00:47:00,160 I was living in France in '67 973 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,280 and I came back to England. 974 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,600 I went to see them recording 975 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,560 and something had changed quite radically. 976 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,960 He had lost his spark and his bounce 977 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:15,280 and that was a very odd and erm... uncomfortable moment. 978 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,720 The three songs I think are really important: 979 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,040 Jugband Blues, Scream Thy Last Scream and Vegetable Man. 980 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,120 Now, Vegetable Man he wrote in my room. He sat in a corner 981 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,560 and he just wrote those lyrics down. 982 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,640 # Where are you? # 983 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,040 It was scary. You had this skinny guy 984 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,760 who's just crying his heart out, 985 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,960 "That's why I am vegetable man." 986 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,760 You go, "Oh God. 987 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,440 Is that what you really think? 988 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,200 Is that how you feel about yourself now?" 989 00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:48,040 KING: It was all that classic music-business bollocks: 990 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,240 "Come on, Syd, where's the next single?" 991 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,480 He was a sensitive chap, he wasn't hard-boiled. 992 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,880 He didn't like all that pressure... 993 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,720 ..and he had a hell of a lot of pressure. 994 00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,760 # PINK FLOYD: Scream Thy Last Scream 995 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,840 # Scream thy last scream 996 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,840 # Old woman with a casket 997 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,160 # Blam, blam, your pointers 998 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,240 # Point your pointers 999 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,160 # Waddle with apples to crunchy Mrs Stores # 1000 00:48:19,240 --> 00:48:22,960 JENNER: It's like...if you look at Van Gogh's later pictures, 1001 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,560 you get the same thing. 1002 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,320 You can see the manifestation of the turmoil in his brain, 1003 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,200 and all those things. 1004 00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:32,040 I think, in the same way, 1005 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,120 you can see the confusion and the...everything within Syd's brain. 1006 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,160 'Both Vegetable Man and Scream Thy Last Scream 1007 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,400 are deemed uncommercial by the record company 1008 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,720 and Jugband Blues is held over for the next Pink Floyd album. 1009 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,320 Apples And Oranges, 1010 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,840 a song written by Syd about his girlfriend Lindsay Korner shopping, 1011 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,560 is finally chosen by EMI as Pink Floyd's third single. 1012 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,360 It's released in November and is a flop.' 1013 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,840 MALE INTERVIEWER: Did you ever see him perform with Pink Floyd? 1014 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,520 Mm, yeah, I did - once. 1015 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,200 I went to the Roundhouse, but it wasn't any fun. 1016 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,120 It wasn't. He didn't look as if he was enjoying it 1017 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,200 and so it wasn't anything I did again. 1018 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,760 STORM: Do you agree in any way about the family's view 1019 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,080 which is, they blame rock'n'roll for Syd's decline? 1020 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,360 I think that's not an unreasonable position. 1021 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,800 I don't think he would have liked NOT to have done it. 1022 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,040 He got into it, 1023 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,560 he was very happy doing it. It was good fun. 1024 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,640 It was sad to see him go downhill. 1025 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,840 You could see by his eyes. 1026 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,280 You know, he would just... 1027 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,200 he would be looking sort of... 1028 00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:40,720 He just wouldn't look at you - 1029 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,840 he'd be looking into space. 1030 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,280 # PINK FLOYD: Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Pts. 1-5) 1031 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,440 (HISS OF PLANE ENGINE) 1032 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,200 'With hopes of breaking America 1033 00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:55,360 and despite concerns about Syd, 1034 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,880 the band set off for a mini tour of the US.' 1035 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,640 (INDISTINCT IN-FLIGHT ANNOUNCEMENT) 1036 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,840 # (WISTFUL TRACK CONTINUES) 1037 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,560 You're there with Syd who was just an artist 1038 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,520 who wrote songs and was having a good time 1039 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,080 and liked listening to music, 1040 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,120 playing in a band and, "Wow, isn't this groovy," you know, 1041 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:23,360 able to go and buy a new shirt and, you know, have your hair frizzed 1042 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,520 and do all these things that you could do. 1043 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,640 STORM: Buy some new boots.Buy some new boots. Yeah - all that stuff. 1044 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,920 I mean, "Gosh, got some money coming," and, "Oh wow." 1045 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,480 Then people started asking him the meaning of life. 1046 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:36,680 (REEL WHIRS) 1047 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:39,320 He was, as it were, the pinup boy of the revolution. 1048 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,560 KING: That was probably very strange, going to America, 1049 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,600 cos, "Wow, I'm in America now. 1050 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,200 You know, I'm doing the Fillmore! Wow! 1051 00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:51,040 And these guys give me this nice acid. Whay! 1052 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,560 (SPACED-OUT VOICE) Oh, wow!" 1053 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:53,960 You know... 1054 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,720 # SYD BARRETT: Lanky, Pt.1 1055 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,400 # (AVANT-GARDE, PSYCHEDELIC PERCUSSION AND CHIMES) 1056 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,120 STORM: Are you telling me that you and Syd got picked up 1057 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,200 by a couple of Californian blondes? 1058 00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:07,680 WYNNE-WILSON: Exactly that - with those straight eyebrows, yes. 1059 00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:09,160 Everybody would dream about this. 1060 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,520 STORM: And this happened to you? It happened to Syd and I, 1061 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,920 but we were young kids from England, you know, 1062 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,080 where this sort of thing was fucking...(BOTH LAUGH) 1063 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,520 There was lots of dope and lots of everything 1064 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,240 and Syd was very happy... 1065 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,880 until we returned. 1066 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,480 I think... Well, then, it would be the gig in Los Angeles, 1067 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,360 which was probably the worst gig of all. 1068 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,000 These gentlemen you're about to meet 1069 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,080 are on their first visit to the US. 1070 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,200 They've only been here less than a week, as a matter of fact. 1071 00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:41,040 Would you greet them warmly, please. The Pink Floyd! 1072 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,840 (APPLAUSE) # Apples And Oranges (Intro) 1073 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,400 KING: Rick lip-synched it. STORM: Because? 1074 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,560 Because Syd wouldn't sing. 1075 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,640 Couldn't sing, wouldn't sing. 1076 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:51,800 Just stood there. 1077 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:54,800 It was a tricky tour. 1078 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,000 Syd, did you write this? Yeah. 1079 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,600 I noticed on the album you wrote most of the songs, is that true? 1080 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,040 Yeah, that's right. 1081 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,680 We did a TV show in LA. He walked out of the studio and disappeared. 1082 00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:05,120 STORM: For a reason? KING: No. 1083 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,600 Let me wish you gentlemen all very good luck. 1084 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,400 I hope you enjoy your stay, get some sleep 1085 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,400 and get something other than cheeseburgers during your stay. Thank you. 1086 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,600 Nick, nice to see you. 1087 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,560 When Syd became unreliable, 1088 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,640 I think we really almost hated him, 1089 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,160 because we were so dependent on him. 1090 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,360 By the time Andrew came back from America, 1091 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,200 it was definitely a problem. 1092 00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:28,080 STORM: OK, one of the more contentious rumours 1093 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,960 is the idea that he might have been given acid 1094 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,880 every morning in his coffee. Did Rick say something? 1095 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,640 He said that... he reckoned that Syd's downfall 1096 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,920 came about by his hangers-on 1097 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,080 and then, people who are writing books or doing interviews, 1098 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,680 they sort of think, "Who were his friends at that time?" "So-and-so." 1099 00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:51,040 STORM: Jock and Sue in this case, right?Yeah. 1100 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,440 Apparently, we're living in Richmond, 1101 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,080 we used to get up every morning, 1102 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,680 we all sit round the breakfast table. 1103 00:52:57,720 --> 00:52:59,480 We would then spike Syd (!) 1104 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,440 It's absolute fucking bollocks! 1105 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,680 STORM: Maybe that's also a quality of rumours. 1106 00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:07,800 It's quite good if your hero is flawed 1107 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,960 because of somebody else's actions - Yes!- rather than their own. 1108 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,680 Better for him to be spiked than to have him gone to them and said, 1109 00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:15,280 "Oh, can I have some acid now?" 1110 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,520 # It is awfully considerate of you 1111 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,680 # To think of me here 1112 00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:23,080 # And I'm most obliged to you 1113 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,600 # For making it clear 1114 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,920 # That I'm not here 1115 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:32,320 # And I never knew the moon could be so big 1116 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,840 # And I never knew the moon could be so blue 1117 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,760 # And I'm grateful that you threw away my old shoes 1118 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,000 # And brought me here instead 1119 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:43,880 # Dressed in red 1120 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,040 # PINK FLOYD: Jugband Blues (Instrumental break) 1121 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,280 # And I'm wondering 1122 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,920 # Who could be writing this song 1123 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,480 JENNER: In a way, it would have been much easier for all of us 1124 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,280 if Syd said, "I'm really fucked up. I'm really sorry. 1125 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,400 I can't cope any more. Can you help me?" 1126 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,480 So we were always trying to help him 1127 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,880 without him giving any indication 1128 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,320 that he had any desire or need for help. 1129 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,840 I took Syd to Ronnie Laing's and he refused to get out of the car. 1130 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,600 Not that I'm convinced Laing would've been able to do 1131 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,000 a huge amount for him. 1132 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,920 As psychiatrists and psychotherapists who er... 1133 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:27,080 profess to be able to... 1134 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,720 be of some service to people 1135 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,120 in distressed states of mind, 1136 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,280 we cannot expect to be of any help 1137 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,840 beyond pulling people back to this side, 1138 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:46,360 into this er...socially reinforced, 1139 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,200 totalitarian, egalitarian, 1140 00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:52,240 quantitative, dequantified, 1141 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:57,440 de-experientialised dead world... 1142 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,200 where there's no fun or joy 1143 00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:04,200 or any genuine celebration of anything, 1144 00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:06,200 because all that is life 1145 00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:09,000 and science is...is studying death. 1146 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:15,520 (HYPNOTICALLY) # And the sea isn't green 1147 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:21,920 # And I love the Queen 1148 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:29,080 # And what exactly is a dream? 1149 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:35,760 # And what exactly is a joke? # 1150 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:44,000 RAWLINSON: You could argue that some forms of so-called madness 1151 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,800 are strong moves to retain freedom. 1152 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,680 You could also argue, 1153 00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:51,520 at a certain level, 1154 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:55,840 he could see that the success of the Floyd 1155 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,600 was reducing his freedom. 1156 00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,920 He was playing us this song in a rehearsal 1157 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,040 and the song was called Have You Got It Yet? 1158 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,880 And basically, the song would alter 1159 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,480 so that the chorus was, "No, no, no." 1160 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,480 (CHUCKLES) Syd would alter the rhythmic pattern, 1161 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,000 or do whatever was necessary 1162 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,040 to ensure that no, they hadn't got it yet, or no, we hadn't. 1163 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,080 STORM: Or couldn't. Or couldn't get it... 1164 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,480 and might never have got it. 1165 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,800 (CLANG, THEN CREAKING) 1166 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,120 'Stories are legion 1167 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,160 about Syd's alarming behaviour on stage during this period: 1168 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,080 playing one note for an entire show, 1169 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,720 or slowly de-tuning his strings until they fell limp on the guitar. 1170 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,760 Live bootleg recordings, however, 1171 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,160 capture several inspired performances. 1172 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,360 Nevertheless, on a small package tour 1173 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,720 with Jimi Hendrix, The Move and a few other bands, 1174 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,040 Barrett would sometimes need to be replaced 1175 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,880 by David O'List from The Nice. 1176 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,480 As far back as 1965, 1177 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,040 Syd himself had written to Libby Gausden 1178 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,240 suggesting his old friend David Gilmour should join the group, 1179 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,200 referring to him as "Fred". 1180 00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:01,640 What became known as "the Fred plan" was now put into effect. 1181 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,240 # (EERIE, ATONAL TINKLING) 1182 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,560 Looking back on it, I can see 1183 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,120 that they all played a distinct part 1184 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,040 in the success of Pink Floyd. 1185 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,960 You had Roger, who had sort of this massive determination, 1186 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,880 Rick's musical sophistication 1187 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,920 and you've got Nick's showmanship. 1188 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,840 # PINK FLOYD: Interstellar Overdrive 1189 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,760 'For several shows, 1190 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,320 the band performs as a five-piece 1191 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,360 in the hopes of keeping Syd around.' 1192 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:36,080 MASON: We'd already tried three or four gigs as a five-piece. 1193 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,000 It was a very uncomfortable feeling, 1194 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,240 but I think we were absolutely geared to this idea. 1195 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,280 It wasn't a matter of trying Dave out. 1196 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:48,600 I think we absolutely loved the idea of having him in the band. 1197 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,960 # (ENERGETIC ELECTRIC-GUITAR RIFF) 1198 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,480 (TEMPO DECELERATES) 1199 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,680 STORM: Do you recall what happened on what I call "The Day"? 1200 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,160 MASON: I can't remember where Syd was living at the time. 1201 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,440 We were all aboard - Were you on your way to a gig? 1202 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,680 Yeah, we were absolutely on the way to the gig. 1203 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,760 Everyone else had been picked up, 1204 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,080 so we were on the way to pick Syd up... 1205 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,760 (INHALES SHARPLY) ..and someone said, "Shall we bother?" 1206 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,360 More or less... and there was this sort of moment 1207 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,920 and we went, "Do you know what? Let's...let's not." 1208 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,680 'Syd's last gig with Pink Floyd 1209 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,920 was on 20th January 1968 at Hastings Pier.' 1210 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,720 # PINK FLOYD: Interstellar Overdrive 1211 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,960 STORM: Do you think it's understandable, then, 1212 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,960 that they had to move on, as it were?That's the way it works. 1213 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:48,760 It's animal husbandry. 1214 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,000 STORM: I'm amazed that they managed to recover 1215 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,040 from losing their main creative drive, you know. 1216 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,160 WYNNE-WILSON: It's not amazing they recovered. 1217 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,000 They became the pop group 1218 00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,040 that they always desired to be. 1219 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,200 Once David Gilmour's in there, it's the beginning of something else. 1220 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,160 It's the beginning of the Pink Floyd 1221 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,440 that became very successful later on with Meddle, 1222 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,240 Dark Side Of The Moon and Wish You Were Here. 1223 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,240 STORM: When the Floyd broke up, 1224 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,400 you and Peter, as Blackhill, as I understand, 1225 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:15,880 elected to continue with Syd. 1226 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,960 We made a particularly astute commercial decision.(BOTH LAUGH) 1227 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,800 # (ACOUSTIC GUITAR INTRO) SYD: That's two verses. 1228 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,760 Sorry, I'll do it again. 1229 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,800 # SYD BARRETT: It Is Obvious 1230 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,600 # It is obvious 1231 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,400 # May I say oh baby 1232 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,640 # (GENTLE STRUMMING) 1233 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,920 # That it is found on another plane 1234 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,960 (WIND HOWLS) 1235 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,000 # But I can creep into cupboards 1236 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,320 # Sleep in the hall 1237 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,560 # Your stars, my stars 1238 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,280 # Are simple cot bars # 1239 00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,840 Syd came to live with us at Egerton Court, 1240 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:03,040 which is a flat that we had in the centre of London, in South Ken. 1241 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,040 KORNER: I went there and you were there, Po was there... 1242 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,320 Nigel and Jenny - they had the smart room at the front. 1243 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,280 STORM: But how was Syd doing those days? Do you remember? 1244 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,200 He was unpredictable then. 1245 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:16,680 He was very unpredictable. 1246 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,360 I don't think anybody in the flat realised 1247 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,040 just how bad Syd had become. 1248 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,600 He began locking himself in his room for several days with Lindsay. 1249 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,200 There were rows, all sorts of things going on. 1250 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,720 I had the small room adjacent to the large room 1251 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,560 in which he and Lindsay lived. 1252 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,600 I could hear him tickling her, which sounded harmless enough, 1253 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,760 and then she'd scream at him to stop tickling and he wouldn't. 1254 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,960 I can't remember what happened, but he pushed me over and jumped on me. 1255 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:43,880 That's when I called out and you came in. 1256 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:48,600 Syd decided that, presumably, the relationship was not as it should be 1257 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,280 and seemed to be attacking her with a mandolin. 1258 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,320 Then the next day you took me home to Cambridge. 1259 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,600 Don't you remember?Yeah. But was this the end of you and Syd? 1260 01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,520 Oh, yes - that was it. 1261 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,160 Syd's apparent malaise, shall we say, 1262 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,200 didn't appear initially. 1263 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,200 I thought he was charming and good company. 1264 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,560 This was his very room. 1265 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:13,720 Dave Gilmour, he lived in Richmond Mansions, one street away. 1266 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,120 We could see from our kitchen into his kitchen. 1267 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,000 # (GUITAR RIFF) 1268 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:19,080 'Syd goes back 1269 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:20,360 into Abbey Road studios 1270 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:21,920 to begin recording some demos. 1271 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,440 With the support of Peter Jenner, Malcolm Jones, 1272 01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,320 David Gilmour and Roger Waters, 1273 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,280 these sessions, though difficult, 1274 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:33,200 would result in his first solo album - The Madcap Laughs.' 1275 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,240 # SYD BARRETT: Baby Lemonade 1276 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,080 In the first lot of sessions, 1277 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,000 you couldn't get an honest answer to an honest question. 1278 01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,760 You know, "Shall we do that again?" No reply. 1279 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,000 You know, "I think that was really good. Can we try that again?" 1280 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,800 No reply. 1281 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,120 "Well, do you want to go and play a bit more?" 1282 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,400 Then he would go out and maybe play a bit more, or maybe not. 1283 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,680 (# ELECTRIC GUITAR STRUMS) 1284 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,960 SYD: Is it on? # (GUITAR AND DRUMS PLAY) 1285 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:04,040 There'd been a considerable amount of time and money gone into it 1286 01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,120 and EMI had decided to, more or less, pull the plug. 1287 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,360 Roger and I asked them if we could finish it off 1288 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,200 and they gave us something like three days. 1289 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,280 We stuck him in the studio 1290 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,200 and recorded everything and anything 1291 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,360 that we could get him to do. 1292 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,920 # Please, please 1293 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,040 # Baby Lemonade # 1294 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,800 The end result is a pretty fair portrait of him at the time 1295 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,880 and I think his writing probably was better 1296 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,560 than the writing on Piper At The Gates Of Dawn.STORM: Yeah. 1297 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,520 "Oh, where are you now pussy willow who smiled on this leaf?" 1298 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:41,240 You know, you go, "What the fuck is that about?" 1299 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,560 # Oh, where are you now 1300 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,680 # Pussy willow that smiled on this leaf? 1301 01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,680 # When I was alone 1302 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,240 # You promised the stone from your heart 1303 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,520 WATERS: He's still making these extraordinary connections 1304 01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,760 with the deepest feelings of, 1305 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:07,000 "Can I or can I not make contact with other human beings?" 1306 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,760 Which is the stuff of all our lives. 1307 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,240 Storm and I had a company called Hipgnosis... 1308 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,320 ..and we were asked to do the album cover. 1309 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,800 Storm went to photograph Syd with Mick Rock. 1310 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:20,880 # SYD BARRETT: Octopus 1311 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,640 # Trip to heave and ho 1312 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:27,120 # Up down, to and fro # 1313 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,960 He had a flat in which he'd painted the floorboards blue and red, 1314 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,320 I think for the photo session, 1315 01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:35,680 which is pretty amazing. 1316 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,200 What was interesting about the floor - there was this rubble, 1317 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,680 because he'd painted over the cigarette butts 1318 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,000 and various bits of debris. 1319 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,920 STORM: I took a photo of Syd crouched 1320 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,040 a bit like an animal, really. 1321 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,960 ROCK: I took a ton of them, too. 1322 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,280 It wasn't just Storm. 1323 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,960 And Iggy the Eskimo, who was never really his girlfriend, 1324 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:57,880 cos these were hippie times. 1325 01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,960 I think she lingered for a couple of weeks. 1326 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,000 STORM: On the back cover 1327 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:03,880 was the picture of a naked woman 1328 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,640 who was an Eskimo, 1329 01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,600 but liked, whether Syd was there or not, to walk around naked, 1330 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,120 so Syd went, "This is Iggy. 1331 01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,320 Why don't you put her in the picture?" I said, "Fine." 1332 01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,240 # SYD BARRETT: Octopus (Instrumental break) 1333 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,480 'The Madcap Laughs is released 1334 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,960 on EMI's new progressive imprint, Harvest, in January 1970. 1335 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,440 It reaches No.40 in the UK charts, 1336 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,000 successful enough for EMI to finance the recording 1337 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,960 of Syd's second solo album - Barrett. 1338 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:32,160 # SYD BARRETT: Gigolo Aunt 1339 01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,440 # Grooving around in a trench coat 1340 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,560 # With the satin on trail 1341 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,200 There was more time, 1342 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,040 so we could relax a little bit more 1343 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,040 and try and do things slightly differently. 1344 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,040 We lived around the corner from each other, 1345 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,200 "we" being myself and Willie Wilson. 1346 01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,320 He and I shared a flat in Chelsea. 1347 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,360 Syd lived around the corner. 1348 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,880 We'd try and get him to play along with the band, 1349 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:00,720 but he'd never do it the same twice, 1350 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,600 so usually it meant we'd cut a backing track without him 1351 01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,960 and then get him to put some stuff on it afterwards. 1352 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,680 Rick came along and helped a bit on that one. 1353 01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,600 All I ever saw was Dave wanting to get 1354 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,760 the best out of Syd he could possibly get, 1355 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:17,320 which was not easy. 1356 01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,760 We just followed him wherever he went. 1357 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,800 Sometimes, it just kept falling down and falling over itself 1358 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,600 and sometimes it got interesting. 1359 01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:26,680 # SYD BARRETT: Love You 1360 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,680 # Honey, love you Honey, little honey 1361 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:29,840 # Funny sunny morning 1362 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,200 # Love you more funny 1363 01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,200 # Love in the skyline baby 1364 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,080 # I scream 'scuse me 1365 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,880 # I've seen you looking good the other evening # 1366 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:43,600 He wrote some pretty unusual chord sequences 1367 01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,840 and found some unusual melodies to sit on the top of it 1368 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,600 and wrote...fascinating lyrics! 1369 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:55,680 # It's no good trying to place your hand 1370 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,440 # Where I can't see 1371 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,760 # Because I understand 1372 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,680 # That you're different from me # 1373 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,560 # (JANGLY GUITAR) 1374 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:10,400 Even though some, around that Wetherby Mansions time, 1375 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,120 are very moody, 1376 01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,080 there's quite a lot of them he's laughing in. 1377 01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,000 # Rocking backwards 1378 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,200 # And you're rocking towards 1379 01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:22,680 # The red-and-yellow mane of a stallion... # 1380 01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:26,720 'Released in November, "Barrett" would be Syd's final studio album. 1381 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,800 It fails to chart.' 1382 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,080 # SYD BARRETT: No Good Trying (Instrumental break) 1383 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,160 STORM: Can you recall when you first met Syd? 1384 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,880 He came running up looking like a rock star 1385 01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:42,400 with his velvet jeans on and his velvet jacket 1386 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,440 and his Chelsea boots on... 1387 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,680 He looked and I thought, "Ooh, wow, it's Syd Barrett"" 1388 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,640 He had a spare room. 1389 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,280 I wasn't sure at that stage 1390 01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,720 whether it was, "Come and live with ME," or... 1391 01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,040 STORM: "Would you like a room?" .."I've got a room." 1392 01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,080 "Give us some money." Yeah, "Give us some money." 1393 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,440 He was pretty strange. 1394 01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,600 He'd just open the door and come in the room 1395 01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,440 and that would be it. 1396 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:11,240 I thought it was kind of great to have a boyfriend like that 1397 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,640 rather than a bloke working in Barclays Bank. 1398 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,920 # I really love you 1399 01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,880 # And I mean you 1400 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,440 # The star above you # 1401 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,600 In support of the Madcap Laughs and Barrett albums, 1402 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:30,520 Syd records a session for influential Radio 1 DJ John Peel... 1403 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,840 ..and on the 6th June 1970, 1404 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,280 he plays a gig - his first for two years - 1405 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,360 at the Olympia Exhibition Hall, 1406 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,360 with David Gilmour on bass guitar and Jerry Shirley on drums. 1407 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,800 After just a few songs, however, 1408 01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:46,840 Syd abruptly walks off stage. 1409 01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,000 He decided at one stage 1410 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,440 that he no longer wanted to be a pop star. 1411 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,480 He went out and bought canvases 1412 01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:00,440 and tons of pots of paint and brushes 1413 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,560 and he locked himself in that room and painted day and night, 1414 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:07,480 and every time I was allowed to see a canvas, 1415 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,360 the next time I saw it, 1416 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,320 it would either be destroyed 1417 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,200 or he'd painted all over it. 1418 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:14,640 Try and keep up with Duggie - 1419 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,000 "him next door". 1420 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,760 He never used his name. It was "him next door" or "that painter". 1421 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,120 You've got two aspects of his personality, though, haven't you? 1422 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:23,960 You've got Roger and Syd. 1423 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,120 Syd was the musician. 1424 01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:27,760 Roger was maybe a would-be artist, 1425 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,800 but Roger never found his way. 1426 01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,680 He put a layer of hessian over the curtains, 1427 01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,440 so he had this darkened room that he lived in. 1428 01:08:37,480 --> 01:08:39,520 People would stand outside his door 1429 01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,640 knocking on his door, going, "Syd, let me in" - for hours, sometimes. 1430 01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:45,600 I moved back to Cambridge 1431 01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,200 and Duggie had called me and said, 1432 01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:52,400 "You know, this is getting crazy. He's...he's..." 1433 01:08:52,440 --> 01:08:54,800 I don't know what he was doing, but... (SIGHS) 1434 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,640 ..he'd been in his room for days and nights 1435 01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,320 and hadn't come out. 1436 01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:03,040 I contacted Syd and I said, "Why don't you come to Cambridge?" 1437 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,120 And somehow or other, it was just like we were back together again, 1438 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,200 so I moved in. 1439 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,720 STORM: What, into Hills Road? Into Hills Road. 1440 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,960 Into the cellar? Into the cellar, with Syd. 1441 01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,880 It was all dark and it was originally a coal cellar. 1442 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,520 It had all his bits and pieces from his childhood there - 1443 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,240 his drawings, his paintings and his guitar... 1444 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,120 ..and it was all very normal! 1445 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,200 Mrs Barrett would come rushing out and say, 1446 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:30,720 "Oh, hello, dear! Hello, dear. 1447 01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:35,360 What about a cup of tea? Rog, would you like a cup of tea?" 1448 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,440 We became engaged. 1449 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:43,000 Mum organised this big Sunday lunch. 1450 01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:47,920 This is the time when Syd threw a bowl of tomato soup over me. 1451 01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,120 It was a normal Sunday lunch 1452 01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,160 and Syd just went, "Whoops!" 1453 01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,280 Then he stood up from the table, laughed, 1454 01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,600 disappeared...and came down 1455 01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:00,000 and he'd cut all his hair off. 1456 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,720 I'd gone back to my parents. 1457 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,800 The next day, a letter arrived 1458 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,480 saying that the engagement was officially off. 1459 01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:13,040 "Yours sincerely, RK Barrett." 1460 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,680 I got another letter from him two days later saying, 1461 01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,800 "Dear Gala, I think we should get married. 1462 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,520 Ignore the letter I sent you yesterday. Lots of love, Syd." 1463 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,720 We went up to London and bought another engagement ring! 1464 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,680 STORM: So there's always two - two rings, two parts of Syd. 1465 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,000 Two rings and two letters. 1466 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:36,080 'Syd's relationship with Gala Pinion would end 1467 01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,560 when he became convinced she was having an affair 1468 01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,760 with a colleague in the local department store. 1469 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,840 Gala would be the last of Barrett's girlfriends.' 1470 01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,200 # SYD BARRETT: Clowns & Jugglers 1471 01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,040 He became more reclusive when he returned to London 1472 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,760 and he was living in Chelsea Cloisters. 1473 01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,400 'Sightings of Syd become less frequent, 1474 01:11:08,440 --> 01:11:11,320 with just the odd lurid story in the papers 1475 01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,840 and occasional visits to the local pub 1476 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,600 or to the office of his music publishers.' 1477 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,880 When we were still at NEMS, which was early '70s, 1478 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,080 and he started coming to those offices, 1479 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:23,320 that's when we realised 1480 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,560 he actually had no money, or very little money. 1481 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,600 We talked about it and he said 1482 01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,320 he didn't know where his money and his royalties were, 1483 01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,200 so we said, "That's easy. We'll write to Essex, we'll write to EMI, 1484 01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,640 we'll write to PRS and find out where your royalties are." 1485 01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:41,560 I used the phrase very loosely, "Poor Syd", 1486 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,840 and, of course, Bryan being a money man, 1487 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,640 he went, "Poor Syd? 1488 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,520 He made £2.5 million last year." 1489 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,400 I said, "God, where do you keep all your guitars? You've got loads." 1490 01:11:53,440 --> 01:11:56,040 He said, "Oh, I've got another flat for them." 1491 01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,600 He said, "John Lennon's got lots of guitars." 1492 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:00,840 # SYD BARRETT: The Gnome 1493 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:04,040 # I want to tell you a story 1494 01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,080 # 'Bout a little man 1495 01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:08,200 # If I can # 1496 01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:09,920 'With royalties from Pink Floyd sales 1497 01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,440 and David Bowie's cover of See Emily Play on his Pin Ups album, 1498 01:12:13,480 --> 01:12:15,640 Syd would move back and forth between London 1499 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,480 and the small back bedroom in his mother's house in Cambridge 1500 01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,280 for the next 12 years or so. 1501 01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,760 While in Cambridge, Jenny Spires introduces Barrett to her husband, 1502 01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,640 bass player Jack Monck 1503 01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,800 and drummer Twink from The Pink Fairies. 1504 01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,080 After several impromptu jam sessions, 1505 01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,560 the trio form the group Stars 1506 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,600 and play a handful of gigs locally.' 1507 01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,680 ANNOUNCER: "We'd like to bring Syd Barrett up to the band stand. 1508 01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,280 Would you come on? How about a hand for Syd Barrett, huh?" 1509 01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:42,800 (APPLAUSE) 1510 01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,760 'All appears to be going well, 1511 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,560 but following a disastrous gig with MC5 1512 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,800 and a negative review in Melody Maker, Syd leaves the group. 1513 01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:52,520 He will never play in public again.' 1514 01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,040 # PINK FLOYD: Speak to Me (Intro) 1515 01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,080 (HEARBEAT / COINS CLINK/ TILL RINGS) 1516 01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,240 MAN: Very hard to explain why you are mad. 1517 01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,600 'A year later, Pink Floyd release Dark Side Of The Moon 1518 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,560 and hit the top of the US Billboard album charts. 1519 01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,120 It remains one of the best-selling records of all time.' 1520 01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,880 (MAN LAUGHS MANIACALLY) (RAPID CLATTERING) 1521 01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,880 'As Pink Floyd's success and fame grows, 1522 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,400 Peter Jenner persuades Syd to return to Abbey Road. 1523 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,960 After three days in the studio producing just a handful of riffs, 1524 01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:20,520 the sessions are abandoned.' 1525 01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,520 # PINK FLOYD: Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Pts. 6-9) 1526 01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,240 'In 1975, 1527 01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,800 Pink Floyd records their ninth studio album, 1528 01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,040 the concept record Wish You Were Here, 1529 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,760 again reaching No.1 on the Billboard charts. 1530 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:41,120 Written as a tribute to Syd, 1531 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,760 Shine On You Crazy Diamond, 1532 01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,800 a 25-minute-long track made up of nine parts, 1533 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,040 bookends the album. 1534 01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,240 # (ATMOSPHERIC ELECTRIC GUITAR) 1535 01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,400 The last personal abiding memory I have of Syd 1536 01:13:54,440 --> 01:13:55,960 was at Abbey Road, 1537 01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,840 when he turned up, remarkably, 1538 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,280 at the recording of Shine On You Crazy Diamond... 1539 01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,720 but I didn't realise it was him. 1540 01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,440 I was sitting in my usual place 1541 01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:08,640 in the control room in Studio 3. 1542 01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:10,960 I heard the door go, looked round 1543 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,400 and there was this chap in the back of the room 1544 01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:14,800 who was slightly portly, 1545 01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,400 with a shaven head and a raincoat on, and... 1546 01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:21,280 ..I just assumed he was something to do with the studio. 1547 01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,880 You would occasionally get odd people popping in. 1548 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,440 I had been doing something in the studio - 1549 01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:29,440 I don't know what, but I'd been in the studio, 1550 01:14:29,480 --> 01:14:31,480 so I came into the control room 1551 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:35,360 to find the band all looking a little bit sort of weird. 1552 01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,800 It took a little while and I don't recall 1553 01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:41,240 whether it was Roger or David who realised that it was Syd. 1554 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:45,600 I was waiting for someone to either say, "This is so-and-so," 1555 01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,760 or for someone to say, "Security are coming any minute now," 1556 01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,040 for someone who'd come in off the street. 1557 01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,080 # (ELECTRIC-GUITAR SOLO) 1558 01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,440 Dave looked at me and he said, "Do you know who that is?" 1559 01:14:56,480 --> 01:14:58,240 I went, "No," 1560 01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,720 and he said, "It's Syd." 1561 01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,680 # Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Pts. 6-9) 1562 01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,800 STORM: He hadn't been seen for six years. 1563 01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,080 He asked if he could help. 1564 01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,160 Syd came in and sat down 1565 01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:15,240 and David and Roger started talking to him... 1566 01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:19,640 ..and I then took this opportunity to snap a couple of photos 1567 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:23,200 with a camera that I'd only had a couple of days 1568 01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,840 as a present from the band after we'd done Knebworth. 1569 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:31,440 It turns out I was using a slow-speed outdoor film, 1570 01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,920 so pictures indoors are a little bit grainy. 1571 01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,920 Roger had Brian Humphries the engineer 1572 01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:40,760 play him the end of Shine On, 1573 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,960 which features the melody line of See Emily Play, 1574 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,520 and Roger asked him afterwards if he recognised it 1575 01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:50,200 and Syd...just said no. 1576 01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:51,880 Very blank: "No." 1577 01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:54,920 Syd did pick up the Martin, 1578 01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,440 the D-35 guitar in the control room there. 1579 01:15:58,440 --> 01:16:01,520 I don't think he played anything in particular. 1580 01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,680 STORM: Then what happened? 1581 01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:09,720 Nothing. (CHUCKLES) We carried on working, as far as I remember, 1582 01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,640 but probably a little bit shellshocked. 1583 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,280 STORM: Rick was terribly upset and Roger cried. 1584 01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:22,400 Often people forget that, although Syd was a huge talent, 1585 01:16:22,440 --> 01:16:26,480 this is a talent that was all too soon lost to us, 1586 01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,520 and that the band... 1587 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:32,720 ..had loved him. 1588 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:37,280 # PINK FLOYD: Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Pts. 6-9) (Instrumental break) 1589 01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,200 WATERS: (RECITES) Remember when you were young, 1590 01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:46,920 you shone like the sun. 1591 01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,040 Shine on, you crazy diamond. 1592 01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,440 Now there's a look in your eyes... 1593 01:16:53,480 --> 01:16:55,480 like black holes in the sky. 1594 01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:58,760 Shine on, you crazy diamond. 1595 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,640 You were caught in the crossfire... 1596 01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,120 ..of childhood and stardom, 1597 01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,360 blown on the steel breeze. 1598 01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:12,760 Come on, you stranger, 1599 01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,640 you legend, you martyr and shine! 1600 01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:17,680 # (ORCHESTRATION SWELLS / EMOTIVE GUITAR SOLO) 1601 01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,400 (MUSIC FADING OUT) 1602 01:17:35,440 --> 01:17:37,560 # SYD BARRETT: Golden Hair (Acoustic-guitar intro) 1603 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,000 (FOOTSTEPS) 1604 01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,040 (BIRDSONG) 1605 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,240 (LOWING) 1606 01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,360 # Lean out your window 1607 01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,600 # Golden hair 1608 01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,440 # I heard you singing 1609 01:18:01,480 --> 01:18:06,600 # In the midnight air 1610 01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:12,280 # My book is closed 1611 01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,480 # I read no more # 1612 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,280 'In spite of his now cult status 1613 01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:19,560 in the eyes of a new generation of fans and musicians, 1614 01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,880 in 1978, Barrett sells the rights to his solo albums 1615 01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,160 to the record company. 1616 01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,040 By 1981, 1617 01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,200 he's facing bankruptcy proceedings. 1618 01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:35,160 In 1982, Syd walks the 50 miles from London back to Cambridge, 1619 01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,960 returning home for the last time.' 1620 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,760 (MAN SCREAMING) 1621 01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:46,240 Ya-a-a-a-a! 1622 01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,280 BREEN: He had enormous blisters on his feet 1623 01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,440 and he was just lying on the sofa with his feet up, 1624 01:18:55,480 --> 01:18:57,520 trying to get these blisters mended. 1625 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,640 He just wanted to get home and he hadn't got any money. 1626 01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,080 You see, you've got to remember 1627 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,040 that he never did a day's work in his life, 1628 01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,600 getting a salary or a wage packet. 1629 01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:08,760 He never had that, 1630 01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,320 so he never actually grew up to be responsible, 1631 01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:12,920 because he never needed to. 1632 01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,360 I suppose all of us, if we didn't need to, we wouldn't do it. 1633 01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:16,960 It's more fun being a child. 1634 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,360 (BIRDSONG) 1635 01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,120 And we used to go out in the car, 1636 01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:22,760 go to areas where he could photograph 1637 01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:24,760 for a painting, 1638 01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:28,720 so we spent a lot of time at Grantchester, which is just nearby. 1639 01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:30,440 MAN: He went back to Cambridge 1640 01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:31,960 and his art very much reflects that. 1641 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,080 You could say it's a return to landscape. STORM: What happened to the work? 1642 01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,840 He wasn't keen on keeping his works. 1643 01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:39,880 It's not that he didn't care for them afterwards, 1644 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,160 because he did take photos of them, 1645 01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,360 but he did tend to destroy work. 1646 01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,480 STORM: Syd made things 1647 01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,680 and then seemed to destroy them, or so we're told, 1648 01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:50,680 and I'm wondering what that means. 1649 01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,560 STERN: Maybe he didn't like too much clutter. 1650 01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:57,480 It's called Syd's Feng Shui (!) (STORM LAUGHS) 1651 01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,000 # SYD BARRETT: Maisie (Bluesy instrumental) 1652 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:02,600 BREEN: He needed a lot of support. 1653 01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,920 He was distressed. 1654 01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:09,800 For 25 years or so, he was my responsibility. 1655 01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,160 I cared for him. 1656 01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:15,200 He'd come on his bike 1657 01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,360 and he'd got a canvas shopping bag 1658 01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,000 - very much an old person's thing - and I said to him, 1659 01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:23,880 "Do you know who I am?" And he said, "Yes, I do. It's Libby, isn't it?" 1660 01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:27,360 I said, "Yes, it is," and we talked for a little while. 1661 01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,320 STORM: But that's a strange question to ask: "Do you know who I am?" 1662 01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,160 I know who you are - you don't have to ask me. 1663 01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:33,880 I did have to ask him. He looked different. 1664 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:39,440 He totally moved on and didn't like that person, 1665 01:20:39,480 --> 01:20:40,960 and didn't like that world 1666 01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:42,720 and didn't want to be reminded of it. 1667 01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:44,480 When people came to the door, he'd say, 1668 01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,320 "Well, Syd doesn't live here any more," 1669 01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,160 you know - because he didn't. 1670 01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,200 He wasn't Syd any more. 1671 01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,280 # His luminous grin put her in a spin # 1672 01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,800 I think it most unlikely that you can reinvent yourself, 1673 01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,160 that you can become an ordinary bloke 1674 01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,040 who goes down the pub and plays darts 1675 01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:01,280 when you've been a rock star, 1676 01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:04,280 when you've been in the hit parade and then you're not. 1677 01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,600 STORM: Do you think people like to embroider and romance things? 1678 01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,400 This is perfect for rumours: 1679 01:21:10,440 --> 01:21:11,960 a magnetic person 1680 01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:13,360 who'd had so much impact 1681 01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,480 and the band went on being more and more successful 1682 01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,320 and where was Syd? 1683 01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,520 Perfect for rumours! 1684 01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,920 I know the Daily Mail, on a quiet celebrity period, 1685 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,080 would rediscover him every three years (!) 1686 01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,520 STORM: Ah, the Daily Mail! "The mad genius of Pink Floyd" (!) 1687 01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,560 (BOTH CHUCKLE) 1688 01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:34,520 STORM: I have a feeling that, 1689 01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,360 underneath a lot of this, is a sadness. 1690 01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,280 KORNER: Yes, but you don't know, you see? 1691 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:39,400 What was he thinking 1692 01:21:39,440 --> 01:21:42,160 on his bicycle in Cambridge, you know, on his own? 1693 01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,680 We can talk about it forever, but won't know. 1694 01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:51,720 (BIRDSONG) 1695 01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:57,920 (BICYCLE BELL RINGS) 1696 01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,800 # SYD BARRETT: Birdie Hop (Gentle strumming intro) 1697 01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,440 # Birdie hop, he do 1698 01:22:05,480 --> 01:22:07,200 # He hop along 1699 01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:11,520 # A lonely bird upon 1700 01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,360 # A window there, hee, hee 1701 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:15,600 # There he blow 1702 01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:17,520 # A windy snow 1703 01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:19,240 # He knew the snow 1704 01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:21,080 # I know the snow 1705 01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,120 # A hoppy bird # 1706 01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,720 RAWLINSON: It's not for us to say how people should be. 1707 01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:27,400 Of course, it would have been great 1708 01:22:27,440 --> 01:22:31,000 if he'd gone on to produce stuff all his life, but he didn't. And why? 1709 01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,920 You could say he was in a weather system, 1710 01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,080 something bigger than him, 1711 01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,440 that...turned him over, 1712 01:22:38,480 --> 01:22:41,800 and it was sunny for the first two weeks 1713 01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,000 and then it rained for six years. 1714 01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,720 # PINK FLOYD: Wish You Were Here (Melancholic guitar intro) 1715 01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:51,640 There was a tragedy being played out - partly self-induced... 1716 01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:57,200 ..and, in the end, it's a tragic tale 1717 01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:00,400 and tragic tales resonate with us 1718 01:23:00,440 --> 01:23:03,480 in a different way, and perhaps more acutely, 1719 01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,360 than tales of triumph. 1720 01:23:07,480 --> 01:23:10,800 Out in Idaho, they know who Pink Floyd are. 1721 01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:12,520 They probably don't know Syd Barrett. 1722 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,600 He's the old singer 1723 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,480 in the band that I love, which is Pink Floyd. 1724 01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:20,480 The band we know Floyd to be now 1725 01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:22,000 wouldn't be here without Syd, 1726 01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,080 but it doesn't really bear much resemblance 1727 01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:26,080 to the band that Syd was in. 1728 01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,240 BIXLER-ZAVALA: What would it have sounded like, 1729 01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:29,640 if he had stayed in the band? 1730 01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:31,840 I would hope that he would be able to see 1731 01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,440 what a beautiful thing it ended up being. 1732 01:23:34,480 --> 01:23:37,360 He did things for their own sake 1733 01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:40,200 and he depended heavily on his own childhood memories, 1734 01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,480 which, I think, that's also a good lesson to us all, 1735 01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,760 to go back inside yourselves and see what you can find. 1736 01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:49,360 COXON: Now I don't understand how boring music can be, 1737 01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:53,560 when at one point somebody was trying to put so much 1738 01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,440 into four minutes' worth of listening 1739 01:23:56,480 --> 01:24:01,680 and erm...the ear was entertained. 1740 01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:07,360 I hope, really, that young people think twice, because... 1741 01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,400 look what can happen. 1742 01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,480 It'd be nice to think that people could learn a bit. 1743 01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:21,880 There are some people who must have a...a weakness of some sort 1744 01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:25,840 that is like a switch waiting to be turned, 1745 01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,880 and that switch will go and they'll never quite come back. 1746 01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,760 STORM: I think it's really hard to not feel something. 1747 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,240 Well, we probably did about as much as we could 1748 01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,000 and we were all very young, 1749 01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,680 but I have a regret or two. In what form? 1750 01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,000 That I never went to see him, you know. 1751 01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:43,880 His family kind of discouraged it. 1752 01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:46,960 Yeah, maybe we should have. I regret that I never went up 1753 01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,120 to his house in Cambridge and knocked on -In the '80s? 1754 01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:50,880 '80s, '90s, 2000s... 1755 01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:55,280 I didn't go, either.None of us did, but I think, in retrospect... 1756 01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:58,480 both Syd and I might have gained something 1757 01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:03,520 out of one or two people popping around to his house 1758 01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,040 for a cup of tea. 1759 01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:10,400 There's this bloke who changed the lives of everyone around him... 1760 01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:17,640 STORM: Yeah, I think... ..and it...it's a terrible story. 1761 01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,840 Sorry?It's a terrible story! It's a terrible story, Storm. 1762 01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:24,720 I'm not surprised -It's a sad story.It's a very, very sad story. 1763 01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:28,800 STORM: Is it a sad story, I wonder? 1764 01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,200 Oh, I don't think so, Storm, no. 1765 01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,360 Sorry? I don't think so. 1766 01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,400 I hope not. 1767 01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:43,240 I suppose it's cos I partly feel he was unfulfilled, 1768 01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:47,720 but that's just my projection, rather than what he felt.Yeah. 1769 01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:53,280 Well, all right, it's sad... it's sad in this way: 1770 01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:59,000 we thought we were moving in this wonderful direction to utopia. 1771 01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,800 We were fully engaged in the hip dream, 1772 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:05,320 and it WAS a dream. 1773 01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,560 We had spiritual heights in our sights, 1774 01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,600 and Syd, too. 1775 01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:14,480 (ROAR OF TRAFFIC) 1776 01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:31,640 MALE INTERVIEWER: Do you have anything to tell me? 1777 01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:33,680 (ROAR OF TRAFFIC CONTINUES) 1778 01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,320 SYD: Yeah. 1779 01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:50,160 OK, Syd. Um, I can't. I sort of... 1780 01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,160 I can't really say. 1781 01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:04,160 # PINK FLOYD: Pow R Toc H 1782 01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:05,480 # Pu-pum, pu-tch-tch 1783 01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:07,360 # Pu-pum, pu-tch-tch 1784 01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:09,440 # Pu-pum, pu-tch-tch 1785 01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:11,640 # Pu-pum, pu-tch-tch 1786 01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:14,240 # Pu-pum, pu-tch-tch (ELECTRONIC SQUAWK) 1787 01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,600 # Pu-pum, pu-tch-tch (ELECTRONIC CHIRP) 1788 01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,240 # Pu-pum, pu-tch-tch (ELECTRONIC SQUAWK) 1789 01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,000 # Pu-pum, pu-tch-tch (ELECTRONIC CHIRP) 1790 01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:24,200 # Woo, woo! (SCREAMS AND ULULATES) 1791 01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:26,280 # Woo, woo, woo, woo! 1792 01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:27,880 # (PSYCHEDELIC RHYTHM) 1793 01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,200 # (CYMBALS CRASH) 1794 01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,440 (RHYTHMIC ELECTRONIC ANIMAL SOUNDS) 1795 01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,520 STORM: If you were, hypothetically, 1796 01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:44,360 to write a letter to Syd... JENNY SPIRES: Writing to him now? 1797 01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:48,080 Yeah... Oh, it would take me ages, I think. 1798 01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:52,120 I would say that he was a good man. 1799 01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:54,160 "You were a good man 1800 01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,080 and...it's terribly sad what happened to you. 1801 01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,120 Sorry about all the rubbish that gets written about you 1802 01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:03,160 and silly stories that get told." 1803 01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:07,120 "I'm glad that you managed to get away 1804 01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:10,280 from all that madness that was going on in London 1805 01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:11,840 around your life 1806 01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:16,240 and I hope that you were happy." 1807 01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:18,600 # (TRACK CONTINUES) 1808 01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,080 I'd say, "Syd, come back," because he became Roger 1809 01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,200 and I don't think Roger was any happier. 1810 01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,920 ROCK: A lot of people think my career started with David Bowie 1811 01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,880 and I have to say, well, of course, 1812 01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:37,600 really, the beginning was Syd Barrett...so thank you, Syd. 1813 01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:42,640 FIELDING: I always go back, revisit his work, 1814 01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:44,720 and it's always as good, as I get older 1815 01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,080 and my understanding grows. 1816 01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:49,320 For me, he's like the perfect artist, 1817 01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:53,040 so I'd love to... I'd like to give him a hug. 1818 01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,200 # (PSYCHEDELIC JAMMING) 1819 01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:07,240 Do you know, it's very interesting that you bring up memory, 1820 01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:10,560 and clearly this whole story 1821 01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,400 that you're trying to tell about Syd 1822 01:29:12,440 --> 01:29:15,560 depends upon the memories of...of people of our age. 1823 01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:19,120 STORM: Slippery memories, aren't they?Yeah. Well... 1824 01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:23,400 we all know that we make up memories to suit our egos. 1825 01:29:23,440 --> 01:29:26,960 Thank you very much. No.That was great. 1826 01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:29,000 It was nice to be led gently back. 1827 01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,360 # Wish You Were Here (Electric-guitar intro) 1828 01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,880 (CHEERING) It's actually...quite emotional 1829 01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,400 standing up here with these three guys 1830 01:29:37,440 --> 01:29:39,640 after all these years. 1831 01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:43,960 Standing to be counted with the rest of you. 1832 01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:48,080 Anyway, we're doing this 1833 01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:49,880 for everyone who's not here, 1834 01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,040 and particularly, of course, for Syd. 1835 01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:55,800 # (WISTFUL MELODY) 1836 01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:07,160 # (EMOTIVE SOLO) 1837 01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,360 # So 1838 01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:44,400 # So you think you can tell 1839 01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:49,840 # Heaven from Hell? 1840 01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:52,400 # Blue skies from pain? 1841 01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:56,800 # Can you tell a green field 1842 01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:00,680 # From a cold steel rail? 1843 01:31:02,440 --> 01:31:03,760 # A smile from a veil? 1844 01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:07,560 # Do you think you can tell? 1845 01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:11,840 # And did they get you to trade 1846 01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:15,760 # Your heroes for ghosts? 1847 01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:19,880 # Hot ashes for trees? 1848 01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:24,680 # And hot air for a cool breeze? 1849 01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:26,600 # Cold comfort for change? 1850 01:31:28,480 --> 01:31:30,480 # And did you exchange 1851 01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:33,880 # A walk-on part in the war 1852 01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,960 # For a lead role in a cage? # 1853 01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:42,800 ENGINEER: Syd, are you ready? SYD: Yeah.Off you go. 1854 01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:44,200 # This is a story 1855 01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:47,160 # About a girl that I knew 1856 01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:48,560 # She didn't like my songs 1857 01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:50,560 # And that made me feel blue 1858 01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:55,600 # She said, "A big band is far better than you" 1859 01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:58,840 # She don't rock 'n' roll 1860 01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:00,520 # She don't like it 1861 01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:02,360 # She don't do the stroll 1862 01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:04,600 # Well, she don't do it right 1863 01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:06,640 # Well, everything's wrong 1864 01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:08,680 # And my patience was gone 1865 01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:10,720 # When I woke one morning 1866 01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:11,920 # And remembered this song 1867 01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:14,800 # O-oh-oh 1868 01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:16,840 # Kinda catchy 1869 01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:21,280 # I hope that she will talk to me now 1870 01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:23,440 # And even allow me 1871 01:32:23,480 --> 01:32:25,320 # To hold her hand 1872 01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:27,360 # And forget that old band 1873 01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:32,480 # I strolled around to her pad 1874 01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,040 # Her light was off 1875 01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:41,680 # And that's ba-a-ad 1876 01:32:43,480 --> 01:32:45,640 # Her sister said 1877 01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:49,200 # That my girl was gone 1878 01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:54,520 # "But come inside, boy 1879 01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:57,920 # And play, play, play me a song!" 1880 01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:01,960 # I said "Yeah! Here I go" # 1881 01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:03,920 # SYD BARRETT: A Long Cool Look 1882 01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:07,920 # She took a long cool look at me 1883 01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:11,440 # And smiled and gazed all over my arm 1884 01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:17,120 # She loves to see me get down to ground 1885 01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:21,160 # She hasn't time just to be with me 1886 01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:27,160 # Her face between all she means to be 1887 01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:32,040 # To be extreme just to be extreme 1888 01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:38,560 # A broken pier on the wavy sea 1889 01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:42,760 # She wonders why for she wants to see 1890 01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:47,760 # But I got up and I stomped around 1891 01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:53,560 # And hid the piece where the trees touch the ground... # 1892 01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:54,880 (MUSIC FADES) 1893 01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:58,560 (CLEARS THROAT) I'll do it from the top, right? I'll start again. 1894 01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:00,720 AccessibleCustomerService@sky.uk 141104

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