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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,824 --> 00:00:03,869 We knew that a fire had been set 2 00:00:03,913 --> 00:00:05,523 at the residence of Jim DiMaggio. 3 00:00:05,567 --> 00:00:08,091 DiMaggio is suspected of setting fire to his home. 4 00:00:08,134 --> 00:00:10,354 There was a body in the garage. 5 00:00:10,398 --> 00:00:13,183 That turned out to be Hannah's mother. 6 00:00:13,226 --> 00:00:15,316 They assumed that he had taken Hannah with him. 7 00:00:17,405 --> 00:00:19,624 James DiMaggio is suspected of killing 8 00:00:19,668 --> 00:00:22,627 a woman and abducting her 16-year-old daughter. 9 00:00:22,671 --> 00:00:24,716 Her father issued some statements 10 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,588 directly to DiMaggio. 11 00:00:26,631 --> 00:00:28,154 The damage is done. 12 00:00:28,198 --> 00:00:29,939 I'm begging you to let my daughter go. 13 00:00:29,982 --> 00:00:31,723 You've taken everything else. 14 00:00:31,767 --> 00:00:35,205 They issued an AMBER Alert throughout initially California 15 00:00:35,248 --> 00:00:36,902 and then up the Pacific Northwest 16 00:00:36,946 --> 00:00:39,165 as the search area grew. 17 00:00:39,209 --> 00:00:41,124 Soon after the description of the car went out, 18 00:00:41,167 --> 00:00:44,083 the abandoned vehicle was spotted near Cascade, Idaho. 19 00:00:44,127 --> 00:00:46,564 It's a very remote area. 20 00:00:46,608 --> 00:00:48,436 We had aviation assets flying around. 21 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,612 The pilot said there's an adult male down there 22 00:00:50,655 --> 00:00:54,355 and what we think to be teenage blond-haired girl. 23 00:00:54,398 --> 00:00:56,400 Somebody who finds themselves in this horrible set 24 00:00:56,444 --> 00:00:58,750 of circumstances through no fault of their own, 25 00:00:58,794 --> 00:01:01,318 my job is to go there and get her back. 26 00:01:01,362 --> 00:01:03,973 And then I hear a small-caliber firearm discharge. 27 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,414 In the FBI, we make a lot of headlines. 28 00:01:13,461 --> 00:01:14,897 Drug busts, 29 00:01:14,940 --> 00:01:17,769 mob stings, 30 00:01:17,813 --> 00:01:19,510 terrorist takedowns. 31 00:01:19,554 --> 00:01:21,643 Get down! Get down! 32 00:01:21,686 --> 00:01:24,036 We understand why people want to tell stories about us. 33 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,081 Mark it. 34 00:01:25,124 --> 00:01:26,561 - Freeze! - FBI. 35 00:01:26,604 --> 00:01:28,258 - FBI! - Action! 36 00:01:28,301 --> 00:01:30,303 But they don't know the half of it. 37 00:01:31,870 --> 00:01:34,003 What really goes down, 38 00:01:34,046 --> 00:01:36,266 we save that for each other 39 00:01:36,309 --> 00:01:38,442 when we're talking agent to agent. 40 00:01:41,402 --> 00:01:44,579 This is "FBI True." 41 00:01:56,068 --> 00:01:58,157 So, Chuck, I know that you were involved 42 00:01:58,201 --> 00:02:00,551 with the Hannah Anderson kidnapping case. 43 00:02:00,595 --> 00:02:02,161 Yep. 44 00:02:02,205 --> 00:02:04,381 It's the end of the summer, you're in Virginia. 45 00:02:04,425 --> 00:02:06,078 I know it's sticky and warm. Where are you? 46 00:02:06,122 --> 00:02:07,819 What's going on? 47 00:02:07,863 --> 00:02:11,344 Kristy Kottis is a 24-year veteran of the FBI. 48 00:02:11,388 --> 00:02:14,435 She worked gangs, crimes against children, 49 00:02:14,478 --> 00:02:16,785 as well as human and drug trafficking. 50 00:02:16,828 --> 00:02:18,482 Kottis was the supervisor 51 00:02:18,526 --> 00:02:20,528 of the FBI's threat response squad, 52 00:02:20,571 --> 00:02:23,226 overseeing the Bureau's response to terrorism threats 53 00:02:23,269 --> 00:02:24,575 in New York City. 54 00:02:24,619 --> 00:02:26,055 It's a Friday afternoon. 55 00:02:26,098 --> 00:02:28,797 My little sister and her husband and three kids were 56 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,408 visiting from Germany, and my mom was in town. 57 00:02:31,452 --> 00:02:33,758 And my phone rang. 58 00:02:33,802 --> 00:02:36,239 Chuck Davis was a decorated Air Force vet 59 00:02:36,282 --> 00:02:39,155 when he joined the FBI in 1998. 60 00:02:39,198 --> 00:02:41,549 He was a bomb technician, freefall jumper, 61 00:02:41,592 --> 00:02:43,855 and SWAT team leader. 62 00:02:43,899 --> 00:02:46,510 He ran hostage rescue teams before retiring 63 00:02:46,554 --> 00:02:48,947 as supervisory special agent in Denver. 64 00:02:48,991 --> 00:02:52,560 So got in the car and ran code from Northern Virginia 65 00:02:52,603 --> 00:02:54,605 down to Richmond airport, which is where we have 66 00:02:54,649 --> 00:02:56,738 our alert bird on standby. 67 00:02:56,781 --> 00:02:58,783 When you go code, that's lights and sirens. 68 00:02:58,827 --> 00:03:01,438 What are you learning at this point about the case? 69 00:03:01,482 --> 00:03:02,918 What do you know? 70 00:03:02,961 --> 00:03:05,355 We had heard of this case earlier in the week. 71 00:03:05,398 --> 00:03:07,400 It was a kidnapping case, but it started 72 00:03:07,444 --> 00:03:09,228 as an arson investigation. 73 00:03:09,272 --> 00:03:12,188 We knew that a fire had been set at the residence 74 00:03:12,231 --> 00:03:13,668 of Jim DiMaggio. 75 00:03:13,711 --> 00:03:16,235 DiMaggio is suspected of setting fire 76 00:03:16,279 --> 00:03:20,936 to his home 65 miles east of San Diego on Sunday. 77 00:03:20,979 --> 00:03:24,766 And when the fire department responded to the residence, 78 00:03:24,809 --> 00:03:27,551 there was a body in the garage. 79 00:03:27,595 --> 00:03:30,075 That body turned out to be Hannah's mother, 80 00:03:30,119 --> 00:03:33,470 tortured, but obvious signs of a struggle. 81 00:03:33,514 --> 00:03:36,865 The victim in that structure has been identified 82 00:03:36,908 --> 00:03:38,562 as Christina Anderson. 83 00:03:38,606 --> 00:03:42,044 She's a 44-year-old Lakeside resident. 84 00:03:42,087 --> 00:03:45,177 And it has been determined that Ms. Anderson has been murdered. 85 00:03:45,221 --> 00:03:46,701 There was an arson investigation, 86 00:03:46,744 --> 00:03:49,617 and they determined that somebody had set the house 87 00:03:49,660 --> 00:03:52,271 on fire utilizing devices on timers 88 00:03:52,315 --> 00:03:55,536 and they had an intact device that they could analyze. 89 00:03:55,579 --> 00:03:57,755 And so that led them to believe then 90 00:03:57,799 --> 00:04:00,279 that Mr. DiMaggio was a prime suspect 91 00:04:00,323 --> 00:04:03,631 in the murder of Hannah's mom. 92 00:04:03,674 --> 00:04:05,720 And they knew there was another body in there. 93 00:04:05,763 --> 00:04:08,461 Turned out to be her brother in the house. 94 00:04:08,505 --> 00:04:11,073 Police say the charred remains found inside the home 95 00:04:11,116 --> 00:04:12,944 of DiMaggio are consistent with that 96 00:04:12,988 --> 00:04:14,337 of an eight-year-old boy, 97 00:04:14,380 --> 00:04:16,861 the same age, of course, as young Ethan. 98 00:04:16,905 --> 00:04:19,429 DiMaggio was a close family friend 99 00:04:19,472 --> 00:04:20,952 of the Andersons, right? 100 00:04:20,996 --> 00:04:22,171 That is correct. 101 00:04:22,214 --> 00:04:24,129 - They called him Uncle Jim. - Yes. 102 00:04:24,173 --> 00:04:26,218 They also learned that at some point before the day 103 00:04:26,262 --> 00:04:28,743 of the fire, DiMaggio apparently took 104 00:04:28,786 --> 00:04:32,703 Hannah and some of her friends on a trip, 105 00:04:32,747 --> 00:04:35,140 and he said something to the effect that, 106 00:04:35,184 --> 00:04:38,317 if you and I were the same age, Hannah, I would-- 107 00:04:38,361 --> 00:04:39,971 I would want to date you. 108 00:04:41,930 --> 00:04:44,497 - Hm. - And so since Hannah was 109 00:04:44,541 --> 00:04:47,065 last seen where Mr. DiMaggio picked her up 110 00:04:47,109 --> 00:04:48,937 at cheerleading practice, they assumed that 111 00:04:48,980 --> 00:04:51,069 he had taken Hannah with him. 112 00:04:51,113 --> 00:04:53,376 An intense manhunt is underway this morning 113 00:04:53,419 --> 00:04:55,378 for a California man. 114 00:04:55,421 --> 00:04:58,642 James DiMaggio is suspected of killing a woman and her son 115 00:04:58,686 --> 00:05:01,384 and abducting her 16-year-old daughter. 116 00:05:01,427 --> 00:05:04,605 They issued an AMBER Alert throughout initially California 117 00:05:04,648 --> 00:05:06,519 and then up the Pacific Northwest 118 00:05:06,563 --> 00:05:08,739 as the search area grew. 119 00:05:08,783 --> 00:05:10,785 So we just learned that the AMBER Alert has 120 00:05:10,828 --> 00:05:13,483 been extended to Oregon and Washington state. 121 00:05:13,526 --> 00:05:15,006 Any time there's a child involved, 122 00:05:15,050 --> 00:05:17,922 it ups the ante considerably, and as a result of that, 123 00:05:17,966 --> 00:05:21,883 we're super focused on getting all the guys and gals 124 00:05:21,926 --> 00:05:23,841 and the whole team on the airplane 125 00:05:23,885 --> 00:05:26,322 and getting on our way as quickly as we possibly can. 126 00:05:26,365 --> 00:05:28,454 Now you're really in focus. 127 00:05:28,498 --> 00:05:30,935 Where was Hannah's father during all of this? 128 00:05:30,979 --> 00:05:34,722 He was away from the family in Tennessee on, like, 129 00:05:34,765 --> 00:05:38,682 a three-month work trip. 130 00:05:38,726 --> 00:05:43,165 But as soon as it became apparent that DiMaggio had 131 00:05:43,208 --> 00:05:46,255 kidnapped Hannah, he issued some statements 132 00:05:46,298 --> 00:05:48,910 directly to DiMaggio. 133 00:05:48,953 --> 00:05:53,871 Jim, I can't fathom what you were thinking. 134 00:05:53,915 --> 00:05:56,874 The damage is done. 135 00:05:56,918 --> 00:05:58,702 I'm begging you to let my daughter go. 136 00:05:58,746 --> 00:06:01,226 You've taken everything else. 137 00:06:01,270 --> 00:06:04,665 Hannah, we all love you very much. 138 00:06:04,708 --> 00:06:06,971 If you have a chance, you take it. 139 00:06:07,015 --> 00:06:08,407 You run. 140 00:06:08,451 --> 00:06:09,887 You'll be found. 141 00:06:09,931 --> 00:06:11,933 So there were numerous sightings. 142 00:06:11,976 --> 00:06:14,936 Meanwhile, a sighting at this California border checkpoint 143 00:06:14,979 --> 00:06:17,765 not far from DiMaggio's home appears to confirm 144 00:06:17,808 --> 00:06:19,767 that Hannah is alive. 145 00:06:19,810 --> 00:06:22,030 A San Diego County sheriff's department spokeswoman said 146 00:06:22,073 --> 00:06:24,206 the 16-year-old was photographed with suspect 147 00:06:24,249 --> 00:06:26,774 James Lee DiMaggio in his Nissan Versa 148 00:06:26,817 --> 00:06:28,950 at a westbound Old Highway 8 checkpoint 149 00:06:28,993 --> 00:06:31,300 shortly after midnight on August 4th. 150 00:06:31,343 --> 00:06:33,606 Soon after the description of the car went out, 151 00:06:33,650 --> 00:06:36,174 the abandoned vehicle was spotted near Cascade, Idaho, 152 00:06:36,218 --> 00:06:40,004 by the Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness. 153 00:06:40,048 --> 00:06:43,181 San Diego officials announced a major new lead. 154 00:06:43,225 --> 00:06:48,360 The blue Nissan Versa was discovered covered in brush. 155 00:06:48,404 --> 00:06:50,362 The license plates had been removed, 156 00:06:50,406 --> 00:06:53,017 and whoever parked the car there attempted to hide it. 157 00:06:53,061 --> 00:06:54,845 Local law enforcement in the area 158 00:06:54,889 --> 00:06:57,587 were able to confirm through the VIN number 159 00:06:57,630 --> 00:07:01,112 that the vehicle did belong to DiMaggio. 160 00:07:01,156 --> 00:07:03,201 There were a number of sightings and false leads, 161 00:07:03,245 --> 00:07:05,160 but this sort of at least pinpointed that 162 00:07:05,203 --> 00:07:07,249 he at least was here 163 00:07:07,292 --> 00:07:10,252 and that's what got us moving in that direction. 164 00:07:10,295 --> 00:07:13,603 The investigators on scene did a search of the vehicle 165 00:07:13,646 --> 00:07:16,954 and found some receipts from, I believe it was a Walmart down 166 00:07:16,998 --> 00:07:19,391 in San Diego, California, and they identified 167 00:07:19,435 --> 00:07:21,002 the items that he had purchased. 168 00:07:21,045 --> 00:07:22,438 And it was some camping supplies 169 00:07:22,481 --> 00:07:24,527 to include a tent, blue tent, 170 00:07:24,570 --> 00:07:28,487 and one very odd fact said a gray house cat. 171 00:07:28,531 --> 00:07:30,141 And I thought to myself, why would anybody 172 00:07:30,185 --> 00:07:31,752 even put that in there? 173 00:07:31,795 --> 00:07:33,797 At the time, I thought it was really kind of silly, 174 00:07:33,841 --> 00:07:37,496 then sometime that, either Thursday or Friday, 175 00:07:37,540 --> 00:07:41,674 a group of horseback riders 176 00:07:41,718 --> 00:07:45,635 were riding way back into the wilderness area 177 00:07:45,678 --> 00:07:47,506 and they came across a gentleman 178 00:07:47,550 --> 00:07:50,553 and a young girl who they said were ill-equipped to be 179 00:07:50,596 --> 00:07:52,424 in the area where they were. 180 00:07:52,468 --> 00:07:56,559 She was described as having on sweatpants and tennis shoes, 181 00:07:56,602 --> 00:07:59,083 and when they returned to their house-- 182 00:07:59,127 --> 00:08:00,911 Just had a gut feeling about him. 183 00:08:00,955 --> 00:08:03,000 The AMBER Alert was on the television, 184 00:08:03,044 --> 00:08:05,481 and I told my wife, I said that is that girl 185 00:08:05,524 --> 00:08:06,917 we seen on the mountain. 186 00:08:06,961 --> 00:08:08,614 She did appear frightened, but I thought 187 00:08:08,658 --> 00:08:11,052 it was a fear of the horses. 188 00:08:11,095 --> 00:08:12,575 I have to stop you right there. 189 00:08:12,618 --> 00:08:15,839 So here are these couples pony riding in the woods, 190 00:08:15,883 --> 00:08:18,494 and they come across a 16-year-old girl 191 00:08:18,537 --> 00:08:20,801 and basically Grandpa Monkey with her. 192 00:08:20,844 --> 00:08:24,848 And, you know, how does that even happen? 193 00:08:24,892 --> 00:08:27,633 So the Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness area 194 00:08:27,677 --> 00:08:30,071 is something on the order of 2.3 million acres. 195 00:08:31,942 --> 00:08:34,292 It's a very remote area, 196 00:08:34,336 --> 00:08:37,905 and the fact that the two of those parties crossed paths 197 00:08:37,948 --> 00:08:39,515 is very fortuitous for us. 198 00:08:39,558 --> 00:08:41,604 I've had cases also like that where 199 00:08:41,647 --> 00:08:44,781 it's just, like, you can't even calculate the odds of that. 200 00:08:44,825 --> 00:08:46,174 As you well know, you need a start point 201 00:08:46,217 --> 00:08:47,740 into something that big. 202 00:08:47,784 --> 00:08:50,047 And so I think that was the linchpin that sort of 203 00:08:50,091 --> 00:08:52,397 got us involved in this case. 204 00:08:56,271 --> 00:09:01,842 We Landed About 11:00 at night and drove up to Cascade. 205 00:09:01,885 --> 00:09:04,279 The next morning, people just start streaming in, 206 00:09:04,322 --> 00:09:06,803 all the various jurisdictions, all the people that are there, 207 00:09:06,847 --> 00:09:09,110 you know, to try and figure out how we're going to best 208 00:09:09,153 --> 00:09:11,373 slice up this giant pie. 209 00:09:11,416 --> 00:09:13,897 The chances of us in 2.3 million acres 210 00:09:13,941 --> 00:09:16,204 coming across those folks is fairly slim. 211 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,337 Logical investigation said, OK, 212 00:09:19,381 --> 00:09:21,078 he was last seen here by the hikers. 213 00:09:21,122 --> 00:09:22,906 How far could two of them travel on foot? 214 00:09:22,950 --> 00:09:24,560 Where might they be going? 215 00:09:24,603 --> 00:09:27,084 There was a river that had river rafting, 216 00:09:27,128 --> 00:09:30,087 like river guides, and so we thought, oh, 217 00:09:30,131 --> 00:09:31,828 maybe he's working his way there, 218 00:09:31,872 --> 00:09:32,960 and he's going to get on one of these rafts 219 00:09:33,003 --> 00:09:34,483 and float down the river. 220 00:09:34,526 --> 00:09:36,964 So the idea was we were going to flood the area 221 00:09:37,007 --> 00:09:40,184 with as many resources as possible. 222 00:09:40,228 --> 00:09:42,273 So we had other FBI tactical assets there. 223 00:09:42,317 --> 00:09:44,406 We had, I believe, the San Francisco SWAT team, 224 00:09:44,449 --> 00:09:47,235 Salt Lake SWAT team, and some other resources. 225 00:09:47,278 --> 00:09:50,629 And so the bosses all got together, 226 00:09:50,673 --> 00:09:52,805 and we just started slicing the area up 227 00:09:52,849 --> 00:09:54,546 based on where the car was 228 00:09:54,590 --> 00:09:57,158 and where they were last sighted. 229 00:09:57,201 --> 00:09:59,943 My team, which was me and four other guys, 230 00:09:59,987 --> 00:10:03,120 we were assigned an area called Morehead Lake, 231 00:10:03,164 --> 00:10:06,036 and it was an Alpine lake up in the mountains 232 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,212 and our job was just going to be 233 00:10:08,256 --> 00:10:10,649 to get up there and search the area 234 00:10:10,693 --> 00:10:12,303 and see if we could find anything. 235 00:10:12,347 --> 00:10:14,653 Did we have at this point-- I know you guys have all kinds 236 00:10:14,697 --> 00:10:17,308 of things in your toy box, something that allows you 237 00:10:17,352 --> 00:10:19,049 to have an aerial peekaboo? 238 00:10:19,093 --> 00:10:21,356 We had Bureau resources, aviation assets, 239 00:10:21,399 --> 00:10:23,358 and they were just generally flying around 240 00:10:23,401 --> 00:10:25,751 the River of No Return Wilderness. 241 00:10:25,795 --> 00:10:29,320 And they were at Morehead Lake, 242 00:10:29,364 --> 00:10:32,323 and they saw a tent on the ground. 243 00:10:32,367 --> 00:10:34,847 We knew that DiMaggio had purchased a blue tent-- 244 00:10:34,891 --> 00:10:36,458 - Right. - At Walmart. 245 00:10:36,501 --> 00:10:38,068 We asked the pilot if he could tell 246 00:10:38,112 --> 00:10:39,243 what the color of the tent was, and he said, 247 00:10:39,287 --> 00:10:40,853 "Yes, it's a blue tent." 248 00:10:40,897 --> 00:10:43,030 Well, over the next couple of minutes, 249 00:10:43,073 --> 00:10:44,857 they said there's an adult male down there 250 00:10:44,901 --> 00:10:48,949 and what we think to be a teenage blond-haired girl. 251 00:10:50,254 --> 00:10:51,995 Things are going really, really well, 252 00:10:52,039 --> 00:10:54,345 and then the pilot comes across the radio one more time 253 00:10:54,389 --> 00:10:57,174 and says, "Oh, I also see a house cat"-- 254 00:10:57,218 --> 00:10:58,697 a piece of information that I thought 255 00:10:58,741 --> 00:11:00,873 was absolutely ridiculous-- 256 00:11:00,917 --> 00:11:04,486 DiMaggio, Hannah, and a gray cat. 257 00:11:04,529 --> 00:11:06,401 And so now we have all those things 258 00:11:06,444 --> 00:11:07,924 pointing us to that location. 259 00:11:07,968 --> 00:11:09,099 That's where we need to go, 260 00:11:09,143 --> 00:11:10,535 and it trips from an area search 261 00:11:10,579 --> 00:11:11,667 to a deliberate hostage rescue. 262 00:11:15,714 --> 00:11:17,716 From this point forward, my team became primary 263 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,850 on getting to Morehead Lake and arresting Mr. DiMaggio. 264 00:11:24,593 --> 00:11:27,683 They took the five folks that were originally with me. 265 00:11:27,726 --> 00:11:29,772 They gave us a canine and canine operator 266 00:11:29,815 --> 00:11:31,295 and then five snipers. 267 00:11:31,339 --> 00:11:33,428 So it was a total of 11 of us. Wow. 268 00:11:33,471 --> 00:11:34,777 One small helicopter-- I believe 269 00:11:34,820 --> 00:11:36,735 it was an Airbus Air Star. 270 00:11:36,779 --> 00:11:38,476 Four people were in that one, and the rest of us were 271 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,262 in a Customs and Border Patrol Black Hawk helicopter. 272 00:11:41,305 --> 00:11:43,829 Immediately, the point man went and started talking 273 00:11:43,873 --> 00:11:45,614 with the helicopter pilots to identify 274 00:11:45,657 --> 00:11:48,704 a landing zone that we could put helicopters in. 275 00:11:48,747 --> 00:11:50,445 Now that's a tricky business, you know. 276 00:11:50,488 --> 00:11:52,708 You don't want to alert DiMaggio to your presence. 277 00:11:52,751 --> 00:11:54,797 You know, you're going to offset considerable distance 278 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,451 so they don't see and preferably 279 00:11:56,494 --> 00:11:57,930 don't hear the helicopters. 280 00:11:57,974 --> 00:12:00,324 Everybody's just focused, hyper focused 281 00:12:00,368 --> 00:12:01,847 on making sure that they have what they need 282 00:12:01,891 --> 00:12:04,633 to get there and do the job. 283 00:12:14,947 --> 00:12:17,254 And I remember we're coming in, and the pilots 284 00:12:17,298 --> 00:12:18,777 are like, OK, 30 seconds. 285 00:12:18,821 --> 00:12:20,083 And we're like, OK, 30 seconds. 286 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,611 And then we see where we were supposed to land, 287 00:12:26,655 --> 00:12:28,831 and then we just keep going. 288 00:12:28,874 --> 00:12:30,267 They said we can't land there. 289 00:12:30,311 --> 00:12:31,790 They just decided at that point-- 290 00:12:31,834 --> 00:12:33,009 It was untenable for the large helicopter. 291 00:12:33,053 --> 00:12:34,097 They couldn't get the helicopter 292 00:12:34,141 --> 00:12:35,359 down onto the ground. 293 00:12:35,403 --> 00:12:36,534 Are you feeling anxious at this point? 294 00:12:36,578 --> 00:12:37,883 Absolutely, right? 295 00:12:37,927 --> 00:12:40,103 We need to get moving. 296 00:12:40,147 --> 00:12:41,974 We continue just to fly, and they picked a spot 297 00:12:42,018 --> 00:12:43,585 on the ground somewhere else. 298 00:12:43,628 --> 00:12:48,242 They landed us on a small ridge off of a summit. 299 00:12:54,161 --> 00:12:56,119 And for the first 45 minutes to an hour, 300 00:12:56,163 --> 00:12:57,903 it was straight uphill. 301 00:12:57,947 --> 00:13:01,124 Very, very difficult. We're in camouflage uniforms. 302 00:13:01,168 --> 00:13:04,997 You'll have body armor, a rifle, pistol, 303 00:13:05,041 --> 00:13:07,304 helmet, night vision goggles, ammunition, 304 00:13:07,348 --> 00:13:10,177 and then various other types of equipment 305 00:13:10,220 --> 00:13:11,656 based on what your role is. 306 00:13:11,700 --> 00:13:14,920 At that time, I weighed about 200 pounds, 307 00:13:14,964 --> 00:13:17,097 and with all my tactical assault kit 308 00:13:17,140 --> 00:13:20,535 and I weighed about 265, so pretty hefty. 309 00:13:20,578 --> 00:13:22,928 And it was warm, and in the first minute and a half, 310 00:13:22,972 --> 00:13:25,801 you're just like, oh, man, this is gonna really be hard. 311 00:13:25,844 --> 00:13:27,455 - Hm. - People don't understand. 312 00:13:27,498 --> 00:13:28,934 It's like, well, why is HRT going out to Colorado 313 00:13:28,978 --> 00:13:30,414 to the mountains to train? 314 00:13:30,458 --> 00:13:31,850 Well, if I have to hike in the mountains, 315 00:13:31,894 --> 00:13:33,287 I need to be in the mountains to train. 316 00:13:33,330 --> 00:13:34,592 Right. 317 00:13:34,636 --> 00:13:36,028 And so you fall back on that training. 318 00:13:36,072 --> 00:13:37,508 In the end, it all falls back to the training. 319 00:13:37,552 --> 00:13:39,336 And so you're like, yep, this is gonna suck. 320 00:13:39,380 --> 00:13:40,729 I know it's gonna suck. 321 00:13:40,772 --> 00:13:42,252 But, hey, I've trained, and I can do this. 322 00:13:42,296 --> 00:13:44,124 And you just put your head down and go. 323 00:13:45,342 --> 00:13:47,692 So the point man immediately calculated that we had 324 00:13:47,736 --> 00:13:50,304 about three miles to move over land. 325 00:13:52,393 --> 00:13:56,310 It's Now about 3:00 in the afternoon, 326 00:13:56,353 --> 00:13:59,617 And we know we have till 5:00, 5:30 before it gets dark 327 00:13:59,661 --> 00:14:01,445 and we can anticipate them getting 328 00:14:01,489 --> 00:14:03,055 into the tent for the evening. 329 00:14:03,099 --> 00:14:04,187 Does this feel different because it's a child? 330 00:14:04,231 --> 00:14:05,449 Absolutely. 331 00:14:05,493 --> 00:14:06,624 A lot of these abduction cases don't 332 00:14:06,668 --> 00:14:07,799 end favorably for children. 333 00:14:07,843 --> 00:14:09,105 You have a daughter. 334 00:14:09,149 --> 00:14:10,367 You have family. 335 00:14:10,411 --> 00:14:11,673 What are you thinking at this point? 336 00:14:11,716 --> 00:14:13,979 My job is to go there and get her back. 337 00:14:14,023 --> 00:14:16,591 And as a parent, I think of my daughter. 338 00:14:16,634 --> 00:14:19,071 And I was like, well, you know, I'd want someone 339 00:14:19,115 --> 00:14:20,943 to come help find my daughter if she 340 00:14:20,986 --> 00:14:22,162 was in a situation like this. 341 00:14:22,205 --> 00:14:23,380 So, yeah, it becomes personal. 342 00:14:23,424 --> 00:14:24,860 There's a time and a place 343 00:14:24,903 --> 00:14:26,078 when you think about your family, 344 00:14:26,122 --> 00:14:28,646 but you've gotta keep your world small. 345 00:14:28,690 --> 00:14:30,474 You have to focus on the task at hand. 346 00:14:30,518 --> 00:14:33,260 Bottom line is there's only a few things that I can control. 347 00:14:33,303 --> 00:14:35,523 That's my thoughts, my words, and my actions, 348 00:14:35,566 --> 00:14:37,786 and everything else is superfluous. 349 00:14:37,829 --> 00:14:39,570 So we establish what's called the ORP, 350 00:14:39,614 --> 00:14:41,093 an objective rally point. 351 00:14:41,137 --> 00:14:43,705 That's the last position that, collectively, 352 00:14:43,748 --> 00:14:46,490 we were all together prior to moving to the crisis site. 353 00:14:46,534 --> 00:14:47,796 - And were you getting updates? - Yep. 354 00:14:47,839 --> 00:14:49,189 So the airplane's still overhead 355 00:14:49,232 --> 00:14:50,494 providing us with that sort of 356 00:14:50,538 --> 00:14:52,235 real-time tactical intelligence. 357 00:14:52,279 --> 00:14:53,976 So can you see the plane? You? 358 00:14:54,019 --> 00:14:55,412 - Oh, yeah. - OK. 359 00:14:55,456 --> 00:14:56,457 So do you think they can see the plane? 360 00:14:56,500 --> 00:14:57,458 Are you wondering? Yeah. 361 00:14:57,501 --> 00:15:00,200 Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Yes. 362 00:15:00,243 --> 00:15:02,027 What kind of things are they telling you? 363 00:15:02,071 --> 00:15:04,334 They're telling us, like, where the tent is on the lake, 364 00:15:04,378 --> 00:15:06,380 what DiMaggio is doing, 365 00:15:06,423 --> 00:15:08,512 what Hannah's doing, sort of like, 366 00:15:08,556 --> 00:15:10,427 OK, he's down by the lake 367 00:15:10,471 --> 00:15:12,081 and Hannah's next to him at the lake. 368 00:15:12,124 --> 00:15:13,778 And then he's back at the tent, 369 00:15:13,822 --> 00:15:16,346 and just painting a picture for us to better understand 370 00:15:16,390 --> 00:15:18,305 what we're coming into when we get to the crisis site. 371 00:15:20,437 --> 00:15:22,047 The sniper team leader and I kind of 372 00:15:22,091 --> 00:15:23,397 developed a hasty plan. 373 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,747 So the snipers were gonna move to the west side 374 00:15:25,790 --> 00:15:27,618 of the lake and see if they could establish 375 00:15:27,662 --> 00:15:30,795 sniper observer positions on the west side of the lake 376 00:15:30,839 --> 00:15:33,145 looking back across the lake to the north, 377 00:15:33,189 --> 00:15:36,148 to give them line of sight to provide intelligence. 378 00:15:36,192 --> 00:15:38,020 And then my group, we were going 379 00:15:38,063 --> 00:15:40,762 to continue moving east below the lake and then move 380 00:15:40,805 --> 00:15:43,765 from south to north, up to the lake. 381 00:15:43,808 --> 00:15:45,810 There is nothing like a guy on a sniper scope 382 00:15:45,854 --> 00:15:49,597 that's covering your advance to the target, right? 383 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,034 So if there's a threat to Hannah at this point, 384 00:15:52,077 --> 00:15:53,644 or a threat to one of us-- Mm-hmm. 385 00:15:53,688 --> 00:15:56,038 They can solve that problem very, very easily. 386 00:15:56,081 --> 00:15:57,474 If you were going to devise 387 00:15:57,518 --> 00:15:59,607 the worst possible hostage rescue, 388 00:15:59,650 --> 00:16:02,740 this would be a good contender because it was daylight, 389 00:16:02,784 --> 00:16:05,134 uphill, 390 00:16:05,177 --> 00:16:07,484 to a potentially armed and dangerous subject. 391 00:16:07,528 --> 00:16:09,573 We'd covered maybe 100 meters or so, 392 00:16:09,617 --> 00:16:11,183 and then I heard over the radio, 393 00:16:11,227 --> 00:16:12,924 "Freeze, freeze, freeze." 394 00:16:12,968 --> 00:16:15,492 If you're in mid-step, you don't even finish that step. 395 00:16:15,536 --> 00:16:18,974 The sniper team leader is relaying to me over the radio 396 00:16:19,017 --> 00:16:22,630 that, hey, DiMaggio is away from the campsite. 397 00:16:22,673 --> 00:16:26,286 He looks like he's collecting firewood. 398 00:16:26,329 --> 00:16:28,592 And so we stop what we're doing. 399 00:16:28,636 --> 00:16:30,507 We all take positions of cover. 400 00:16:30,551 --> 00:16:32,204 30 meters through the trees and through the underbrush, 401 00:16:32,248 --> 00:16:34,511 I can see this movement where DiMaggio is. 402 00:16:36,296 --> 00:16:40,212 And then he's off back towards the campsite. 403 00:16:40,256 --> 00:16:43,172 So then, the airplane overhead, he says, 404 00:16:43,215 --> 00:16:44,739 "Oh, he's back at the campsite," 405 00:16:44,782 --> 00:16:47,829 and then we can see smoke coming up through the trees. 406 00:16:47,872 --> 00:16:51,354 So now we know, OK, that's where the tent is, 407 00:16:51,398 --> 00:16:53,356 and that's where we need to go. 408 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,925 And then the pilots came over the radio and said, 409 00:16:56,968 --> 00:16:58,796 Hannah is down by the lake. 410 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,887 She's as far away from DiMaggio as we've seen her from him. 411 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,501 So that was the impetus behind us saying, 412 00:17:07,544 --> 00:17:09,111 OK, now is the time. 413 00:17:09,154 --> 00:17:11,461 So I gave a command-- execute, execute, execute, 414 00:17:11,505 --> 00:17:13,855 and all four of the guys in front got up 415 00:17:13,898 --> 00:17:16,336 and we just started advancing on the crisis site. 416 00:17:17,946 --> 00:17:20,557 And then I hear small caliber firearm discharge. 417 00:17:21,819 --> 00:17:23,343 What's that sound like? 418 00:17:23,386 --> 00:17:25,214 Sounds like bundle of sticks snapping. 419 00:17:25,257 --> 00:17:27,042 That's DiMaggio opening fire, 420 00:17:27,085 --> 00:17:29,914 and then immediately, I hear return fire 421 00:17:29,958 --> 00:17:31,699 that I know is our guys. 422 00:17:33,701 --> 00:17:34,658 I immediately just start running 423 00:17:34,702 --> 00:17:35,920 as fast as I possibly can 424 00:17:35,964 --> 00:17:38,401 straight towards the crisis site. 425 00:17:38,445 --> 00:17:41,578 Probably covered 20 or 30 meters, 426 00:17:41,622 --> 00:17:43,537 and I popped out into sort of a clearing 427 00:17:43,580 --> 00:17:45,016 and I could see the lake. 428 00:17:45,060 --> 00:17:47,062 And off to my right, I heard Hannah screaming. 429 00:17:47,105 --> 00:17:48,977 But our first priority obviously 430 00:17:49,020 --> 00:17:50,761 is to deal with the subject. 431 00:17:50,805 --> 00:17:54,156 So I turn to my left, close that distance down, 432 00:17:54,199 --> 00:17:56,985 and come upon DiMaggio who is at the campsite 433 00:17:57,028 --> 00:17:58,160 laying on his back. 434 00:17:58,203 --> 00:17:59,509 He was dead. 435 00:17:59,553 --> 00:18:01,424 So he had been shot numerous times. 436 00:18:01,468 --> 00:18:02,860 Told the guys there, hey, secure him 437 00:18:02,904 --> 00:18:04,384 so we're going to handcuff him regardless, 438 00:18:04,427 --> 00:18:06,429 you know, just part of the procedure. 439 00:18:06,473 --> 00:18:09,258 And I said, let's begin securing the crime scene. 440 00:18:09,301 --> 00:18:10,955 And I ran back over to Hannah. 441 00:18:16,178 --> 00:18:17,919 By this time, the other two guys that were with us were 442 00:18:17,962 --> 00:18:19,616 providing medical aid. 443 00:18:19,660 --> 00:18:21,401 I said, hey, how is she, 444 00:18:21,444 --> 00:18:23,141 and they're like, we think she's fine. 445 00:18:23,185 --> 00:18:24,708 So no visible injuries. 446 00:18:24,752 --> 00:18:29,452 And she was incredibly, incredibly agitated. 447 00:18:29,496 --> 00:18:32,020 I took a very hard look at the subject, 448 00:18:32,063 --> 00:18:34,936 and I was not quite sure that it was DiMaggio. 449 00:18:34,979 --> 00:18:36,198 Why is that? 450 00:18:36,241 --> 00:18:38,461 So his face was very gaunt. 451 00:18:38,505 --> 00:18:40,376 We've seen this in the past with folks that are 452 00:18:40,420 --> 00:18:44,249 suffering from mental issues. 453 00:18:44,293 --> 00:18:45,860 It made me question whether it was him. 454 00:18:45,903 --> 00:18:48,210 And I looked and I looked and I looked and I said OK. 455 00:18:48,253 --> 00:18:50,560 So I ran back, and I said, "Hannah, who is that?" 456 00:18:50,604 --> 00:18:51,953 She goes, "That's Jim DiMaggio. 457 00:18:51,996 --> 00:18:53,737 Well, how is he?" 458 00:18:53,781 --> 00:18:55,957 I said, "Don't worry about him. 459 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,872 He's not gonna hurt you anymore." 460 00:18:57,915 --> 00:18:59,439 So one of the things that you have 461 00:18:59,482 --> 00:19:00,614 to understand in these situations 462 00:19:00,657 --> 00:19:02,137 is the bad guy has a say and-- 463 00:19:02,180 --> 00:19:03,399 Absolutely. 464 00:19:03,443 --> 00:19:06,446 He chose, and he chose poorly. 465 00:19:08,883 --> 00:19:09,927 What about Hannah? 466 00:19:09,971 --> 00:19:11,407 What is she doing at this point? 467 00:19:11,451 --> 00:19:13,496 She visibly started to calm down. 468 00:19:13,540 --> 00:19:16,064 And I said, "Hey, Hannah, we're gonna get you 469 00:19:16,107 --> 00:19:18,762 "out of here really quickly. 470 00:19:18,806 --> 00:19:20,895 "Is there anything here that's yours 471 00:19:20,938 --> 00:19:22,853 that you wanna take with you?" 472 00:19:22,897 --> 00:19:24,986 And she says, oh, yes, there's a pair of jeans over there. 473 00:19:25,029 --> 00:19:26,988 And so one of the guys crawls in the tent, 474 00:19:27,031 --> 00:19:28,511 and he's like, these? 475 00:19:28,555 --> 00:19:31,122 So I grab them, and I said, Hannah, are these yours? 476 00:19:31,166 --> 00:19:33,298 And she goes no, no, no, these are my mom's. 477 00:19:33,342 --> 00:19:34,865 How's my mom and my brother? 478 00:19:34,909 --> 00:19:36,824 Mm. 479 00:19:36,867 --> 00:19:38,521 I mean, here's this young woman who's just been 480 00:19:38,565 --> 00:19:40,001 through this crazy ordeal. 481 00:19:40,044 --> 00:19:41,916 These, you know, guys pop out of the woods, 482 00:19:41,959 --> 00:19:43,221 and they get in a gunfight. 483 00:19:43,265 --> 00:19:44,745 He was dead. Right. 484 00:19:44,788 --> 00:19:46,181 And, you know, she's trying to process all this 485 00:19:46,224 --> 00:19:47,530 and all she wants to do is get the jeans 486 00:19:47,574 --> 00:19:49,184 so she can give them back to her mom, right? 487 00:19:49,227 --> 00:19:52,622 When she was saying that about her mom, 488 00:19:52,666 --> 00:19:54,581 what were you feeling at that point? 489 00:19:54,624 --> 00:19:57,192 Just I felt-- 490 00:19:57,235 --> 00:19:59,020 I was crushed. 491 00:19:59,063 --> 00:20:01,239 I said, hey, Hannah, we'll figure out 492 00:20:01,283 --> 00:20:03,241 about your mom and your brother further down the line. 493 00:20:03,285 --> 00:20:05,026 Our goal is to get you off this mountain as safely 494 00:20:05,069 --> 00:20:07,071 and as quickly as we possibly can. 495 00:20:07,115 --> 00:20:09,944 Radioed back to the operation center, helicopter's en route, 496 00:20:09,987 --> 00:20:11,989 and it comes in. 497 00:20:12,033 --> 00:20:13,817 And I said, "Hey, Hannah, have you ever been 498 00:20:13,861 --> 00:20:15,036 on a helicopter before?" 499 00:20:15,079 --> 00:20:16,559 She said no. 500 00:20:16,603 --> 00:20:17,560 I said, "OK, make sure you look around. 501 00:20:17,604 --> 00:20:19,170 It's pretty cool." 502 00:20:19,214 --> 00:20:20,824 And, you know, she visibly got excited and, you know, 503 00:20:20,868 --> 00:20:21,956 actually saw a smile on her face. 504 00:20:21,999 --> 00:20:23,348 That made me feel good. 505 00:20:25,002 --> 00:20:26,874 The helicopter comes in. 506 00:20:26,917 --> 00:20:29,180 We run up there and get her strapped in. 507 00:20:29,224 --> 00:20:31,443 And helicopter takes off, and that's the last time 508 00:20:31,487 --> 00:20:33,750 I saw Hannah Anderson. 509 00:20:33,794 --> 00:20:35,665 What happened to the kitty? 510 00:20:35,709 --> 00:20:37,058 Sure enough, that night, 511 00:20:37,101 --> 00:20:38,450 they were securing the crime scene. 512 00:20:38,494 --> 00:20:40,583 The cat wandered back into the tent, 513 00:20:40,627 --> 00:20:42,498 and they rescued the cat as well. 514 00:21:00,690 --> 00:21:02,692 Chuck, you've worked all kinds of cases. 515 00:21:02,736 --> 00:21:05,129 What makes this case stand out 516 00:21:05,173 --> 00:21:07,131 amongst all the cases that you've done? 517 00:21:07,175 --> 00:21:10,700 When you have the ability to save somebody 518 00:21:10,744 --> 00:21:12,659 who finds themselves in this horrible set of circumstances 519 00:21:12,702 --> 00:21:14,399 through no fault of their own, 520 00:21:14,443 --> 00:21:17,577 it's a tremendously rewarding experience. 521 00:21:17,620 --> 00:21:21,102 Nothing prepares you for that elation. 522 00:21:21,145 --> 00:21:23,060 When I put her on that helicopter 523 00:21:23,104 --> 00:21:25,280 and that helicopter flew away, I mean, 524 00:21:25,323 --> 00:21:27,630 I was overwhelmed, overwhelmed with positive emotion 525 00:21:27,674 --> 00:21:30,154 and you successfully accomplished the mission. 526 00:21:30,198 --> 00:21:35,638 And the idea that as horrible as this circumstance was, 527 00:21:35,682 --> 00:21:38,249 we gave Hannah at least a future. 41004

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