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We knew that a fire had
been set
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at the residence
of Jim DiMaggio.
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DiMaggio is suspected
of setting fire to his home.
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There was a body
in the garage.
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That turned out
to be Hannah's mother.
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They assumed that he had
taken Hannah with him.
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James DiMaggio
is suspected of killing
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a woman and abducting
her 16-year-old daughter.
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Her father issued
some statements
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directly to DiMaggio.
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The damage is done.
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I'm begging you to
let my daughter go.
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You've taken everything else.
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They issued an AMBER Alert
throughout initially California
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and then up
the Pacific Northwest
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as the search area grew.
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Soon after the description
of the car went out,
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the abandoned vehicle was
spotted near Cascade, Idaho.
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It's a very remote area.
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We had aviation assets
flying around.
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The pilot said there's
an adult male down there
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and what we think to be
teenage blond-haired girl.
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Somebody who finds themselves
in this horrible set
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of circumstances through
no fault of their own,
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my job is to go there
and get her back.
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And then I hear a small-caliber
firearm discharge.
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In the FBI, we make
a lot of headlines.
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Drug busts,
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mob stings,
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terrorist takedowns.
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Get down! Get down!
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We understand why people
want to tell stories about us.
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Mark it.
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- Freeze!
- FBI.
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- FBI!
- Action!
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But they don't know
the half of it.
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What really goes down,
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we save that for each other
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when we're talking
agent to agent.
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This is "FBI True."
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So, Chuck, I know
that you were involved
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with the Hannah Anderson
kidnapping case.
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Yep.
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It's the end of the summer,
you're in Virginia.
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I know it's sticky and warm.
Where are you?
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What's going on?
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Kristy Kottis is
a 24-year veteran of the FBI.
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She worked gangs,
crimes against children,
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as well as human
and drug trafficking.
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Kottis was the supervisor
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of the FBI's
threat response squad,
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overseeing the Bureau's
response to terrorism threats
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in New York City.
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It's a Friday afternoon.
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My little sister and her
husband and three kids were
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visiting from Germany,
and my mom was in town.
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And my phone rang.
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Chuck Davis was a decorated
Air Force vet
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when he joined the FBI
in 1998.
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He was a bomb technician,
freefall jumper,
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and SWAT team leader.
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He ran hostage rescue teams
before retiring
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as supervisory special agent
in Denver.
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So got in the car and ran
code from Northern Virginia
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down to Richmond airport,
which is where we have
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our alert bird on standby.
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When you go code,
that's lights and sirens.
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What are you learning
at this point about the case?
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What do you know?
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We had heard of this case
earlier in the week.
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It was a kidnapping case,
but it started
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as an arson investigation.
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We knew that a fire had
been set at the residence
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of Jim DiMaggio.
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DiMaggio is suspected
of setting fire
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to his home 65 miles
east of San Diego on Sunday.
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And when the fire department
responded to the residence,
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there was a body in the garage.
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That body turned out
to be Hannah's mother,
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tortured, but obvious signs
of a struggle.
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The victim in that structure
has been identified
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as Christina Anderson.
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She's a 44-year-old
Lakeside resident.
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And it has been determined that
Ms. Anderson has been murdered.
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There was an
arson investigation,
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and they determined that
somebody had set the house
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on fire utilizing devices
on timers
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and they had an intact device
that they could analyze.
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And so that led
them to believe then
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that Mr. DiMaggio
was a prime suspect
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in the murder of Hannah's mom.
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And they knew there was
another body in there.
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Turned out to be her brother
in the house.
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Police say the charred
remains found inside the home
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of DiMaggio are consistent
with that
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of an eight-year-old boy,
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the same age, of course,
as young Ethan.
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DiMaggio was
a close family friend
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of the Andersons, right?
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That is correct.
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- They called him Uncle Jim.
- Yes.
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They also learned that
at some point before the day
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of the fire,
DiMaggio apparently took
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Hannah and some
of her friends on a trip,
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and he said something
to the effect that,
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if you and I were the same age,
Hannah, I would--
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I would want to date you.
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- Hm.
- And so since Hannah was
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last seen where
Mr. DiMaggio picked her up
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at cheerleading practice,
they assumed that
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he had taken Hannah with him.
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An intense manhunt
is underway this morning
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for a California man.
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James DiMaggio is suspected
of killing a woman and her son
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and abducting her
16-year-old daughter.
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They issued an AMBER Alert
throughout initially California
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and then up
the Pacific Northwest
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as the search area grew.
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So we just learned
that the AMBER Alert has
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been extended to Oregon
and Washington state.
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Any time there's
a child involved,
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it ups the ante considerably,
and as a result of that,
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we're super focused on
getting all the guys and gals
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and the whole team
on the airplane
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and getting on our way as
quickly as we possibly can.
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Now you're really in focus.
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Where was Hannah's father
during all of this?
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He was away from the family
in Tennessee on, like,
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a three-month work trip.
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But as soon as it became
apparent that DiMaggio had
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kidnapped Hannah,
he issued some statements
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directly to DiMaggio.
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Jim, I can't fathom
what you were thinking.
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The damage is done.
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I'm begging you to
let my daughter go.
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You've taken everything else.
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Hannah, we all
love you very much.
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If you have a chance,
you take it.
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You run.
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You'll be found.
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So there were
numerous sightings.
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Meanwhile, a sighting at this
California border checkpoint
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not far from DiMaggio's home
appears to confirm
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that Hannah is alive.
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A San Diego County sheriff's
department spokeswoman said
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the 16-year-old was
photographed with suspect
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James Lee DiMaggio
in his Nissan Versa
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at a westbound
Old Highway 8 checkpoint
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shortly after midnight
on August 4th.
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Soon after the description
of the car went out,
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the abandoned vehicle was
spotted near Cascade, Idaho,
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by the Frank Church River
of No Return Wilderness.
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San Diego officials
announced a major new lead.
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The blue Nissan Versa was
discovered covered in brush.
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The license plates
had been removed,
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and whoever parked the car
there attempted to hide it.
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Local law enforcement
in the area
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were able to confirm
through the VIN number
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that the vehicle did
belong to DiMaggio.
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There were a number
of sightings and false leads,
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but this sort of
at least pinpointed that
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he at least was here
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and that's what got us
moving in that direction.
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The investigators on scene
did a search of the vehicle
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and found some receipts from,
I believe it was a Walmart down
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in San Diego, California,
and they identified
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the items that
he had purchased.
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And it was
some camping supplies
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to include a tent, blue tent,
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and one very odd fact
said a gray house cat.
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And I thought to myself,
why would anybody
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even put that in there?
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At the time, I thought it was
really kind of silly,
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then sometime that,
either Thursday or Friday,
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a group of horseback riders
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were riding way back
into the wilderness area
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and they came across
a gentleman
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and a young girl who they
said were ill-equipped to be
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in the area where they were.
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She was described as having on
sweatpants and tennis shoes,
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and when they returned
to their house--
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Just had a gut feeling
about him.
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The AMBER Alert was
on the television,
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and I told my wife,
I said that is that girl
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we seen on the mountain.
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She did appear frightened,
but I thought
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it was a fear of the horses.
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I have to stop you
right there.
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So here are these couples
pony riding in the woods,
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and they come across
a 16-year-old girl
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and basically Grandpa Monkey
with her.
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And, you know,
how does that even happen?
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So the Frank Church River
of No Return Wilderness area
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is something on the order
of 2.3 million acres.
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It's a very remote area,
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and the fact that the two
of those parties crossed paths
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is very fortuitous for us.
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I've had cases also
like that where
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it's just, like, you can't even
calculate the odds of that.
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As you well know,
you need a start point
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into something that big.
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And so I think that was
the linchpin that sort of
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got us involved in this case.
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We Landed About 11:00 at night
and drove up to Cascade.
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The next morning, people
just start streaming in,
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all the various jurisdictions,
all the people that are there,
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you know, to try and figure out
how we're going to best
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slice up this giant pie.
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The chances of us
in 2.3 million acres
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coming across those folks
is fairly slim.
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Logical investigation said,
OK,
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he was last seen here
by the hikers.
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How far could two
of them travel on foot?
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Where might they be going?
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There was a river that
had river rafting,
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like river guides,
and so we thought, oh,
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maybe he's working
his way there,
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and he's going to get
on one of these rafts
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and float down the river.
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So the idea was we were going
to flood the area
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with as many resources
as possible.
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So we had other
FBI tactical assets there.
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We had, I believe,
the San Francisco SWAT team,
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Salt Lake SWAT team,
and some other resources.
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And so the bosses
all got together,
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and we just started
slicing the area up
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based on where the car was
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and where they were
last sighted.
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My team, which was me
and four other guys,
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we were assigned an area
called Morehead Lake,
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and it was an Alpine lake
up in the mountains
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and our job was
just going to be
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to get up there
and search the area
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and see if we could
find anything.
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Did we have at this point--
I know you guys have all kinds
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of things in your toy box,
something that allows you
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to have an aerial peekaboo?
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We had Bureau resources,
aviation assets,
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and they were just generally
flying around
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the River of No Return
Wilderness.
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And they were
at Morehead Lake,
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and they saw a tent
on the ground.
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We knew that DiMaggio
had purchased a blue tent--
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- Right.
- At Walmart.
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We asked the pilot
if he could tell
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what the color of the
tent was, and he said,
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"Yes, it's a blue tent."
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Well, over the next
couple of minutes,
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they said there's
an adult male down there
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and what we think to be
a teenage blond-haired girl.
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Things are going
really, really well,
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and then the pilot comes
across the radio one more time
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and says, "Oh, I also
see a house cat"--
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a piece of information
that I thought
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was absolutely ridiculous--
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DiMaggio, Hannah,
and a gray cat.
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And so now we have
all those things
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pointing us to that location.
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That's where we need to go,
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and it trips from
an area search
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to a deliberate hostage rescue.
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From this point forward,
my team became primary
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on getting to Morehead Lake
and arresting Mr. DiMaggio.
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They took the five folks
that were originally with me.
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They gave us a canine
and canine operator
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and then five snipers.
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So it was a total of 11 of us.
Wow.
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One small helicopter--
I believe
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it was an Airbus Air Star.
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Four people were in that one,
and the rest of us were
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in a Customs and Border Patrol
Black Hawk helicopter.
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Immediately, the point man
went and started talking
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with the helicopter pilots
to identify
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a landing zone that
we could put helicopters in.
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Now that's a tricky business,
you know.
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You don't want to alert
DiMaggio to your presence.
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You know, you're going
to offset considerable distance
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so they don't see
and preferably
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don't hear the helicopters.
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Everybody's just focused,
hyper focused
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on making sure that
they have what they need
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to get there and do the job.
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And I remember we're coming in,
and the pilots
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are like, OK, 30 seconds.
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And we're like, OK, 30 seconds.
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And then we see where we
were supposed to land,
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and then we just keep going.
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They said we can't land there.
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They just decided
at that point--
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It was untenable
for the large helicopter.
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They couldn't get
the helicopter
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down onto the ground.
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Are you feeling anxious
at this point?
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Absolutely, right?
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We need to get moving.
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We continue just to fly,
and they picked a spot
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on the ground somewhere else.
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They landed us on a small ridge
off of a summit.
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And for the first 45 minutes
to an hour,
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it was straight uphill.
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Very, very difficult.
We're in camouflage uniforms.
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You'll have body armor,
a rifle, pistol,
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helmet, night vision goggles,
ammunition,
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and then various other types
of equipment
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based on what your role is.
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At that time, I weighed
about 200 pounds,
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and with all my
tactical assault kit
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and I weighed about 265,
so pretty hefty.
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And it was warm, and in
the first minute and a half,
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you're just like, oh, man,
this is gonna really be hard.
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- Hm.
- People don't understand.
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It's like, well, why is HRT
going out to Colorado
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to the mountains to train?
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Well, if I have to hike
in the mountains,
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I need to be
in the mountains to train.
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Right.
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And so you fall back
on that training.
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In the end, it all falls back
to the training.
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And so you're like,
yep, this is gonna suck.
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I know it's gonna suck.
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But, hey, I've trained,
and I can do this.
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And you just put
your head down and go.
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So the point man immediately
calculated that we had
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about three miles
to move over land.
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It's Now about 3:00
in the afternoon,
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And we know we have till 5:00,
5:30 before it gets dark
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and we can anticipate
them getting
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into the tent for the evening.
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Does this feel different
because it's a child?
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Absolutely.
331
00:14:05,493 --> 00:14:06,624
A lot of these
abduction cases don't
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end favorably for children.
333
00:14:07,843 --> 00:14:09,105
You have a daughter.
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You have family.
335
00:14:10,411 --> 00:14:11,673
What are you thinking
at this point?
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My job is to go
there and get her back.
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00:14:14,023 --> 00:14:16,591
And as a parent,
I think of my daughter.
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00:14:16,634 --> 00:14:19,071
And I was like, well,
you know, I'd want someone
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00:14:19,115 --> 00:14:20,943
to come help find
my daughter if she
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00:14:20,986 --> 00:14:22,162
was in a situation like this.
341
00:14:22,205 --> 00:14:23,380
So, yeah, it becomes personal.
342
00:14:23,424 --> 00:14:24,860
There's a time and a place
343
00:14:24,903 --> 00:14:26,078
when you think
about your family,
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00:14:26,122 --> 00:14:28,646
but you've gotta keep
your world small.
345
00:14:28,690 --> 00:14:30,474
You have to focus
on the task at hand.
346
00:14:30,518 --> 00:14:33,260
Bottom line is there's only a
few things that I can control.
347
00:14:33,303 --> 00:14:35,523
That's my thoughts, my words,
and my actions,
348
00:14:35,566 --> 00:14:37,786
and everything else
is superfluous.
349
00:14:37,829 --> 00:14:39,570
So we establish
what's called the ORP,
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00:14:39,614 --> 00:14:41,093
an objective rally point.
351
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That's the last position
that, collectively,
352
00:14:43,748 --> 00:14:46,490
we were all together prior
to moving to the crisis site.
353
00:14:46,534 --> 00:14:47,796
- And were you getting updates?
- Yep.
354
00:14:47,839 --> 00:14:49,189
So the airplane's
still overhead
355
00:14:49,232 --> 00:14:50,494
providing us with
that sort of
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00:14:50,538 --> 00:14:52,235
real-time tactical
intelligence.
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00:14:52,279 --> 00:14:53,976
So can you see the plane?
You?
358
00:14:54,019 --> 00:14:55,412
- Oh, yeah.
- OK.
359
00:14:55,456 --> 00:14:56,457
So do you think they
can see the plane?
360
00:14:56,500 --> 00:14:57,458
Are you wondering?
Yeah.
361
00:14:57,501 --> 00:15:00,200
Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Yes.
362
00:15:00,243 --> 00:15:02,027
What kind of things
are they telling you?
363
00:15:02,071 --> 00:15:04,334
They're telling us, like,
where the tent is on the lake,
364
00:15:04,378 --> 00:15:06,380
what DiMaggio is doing,
365
00:15:06,423 --> 00:15:08,512
what Hannah's doing,
sort of like,
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00:15:08,556 --> 00:15:10,427
OK, he's down by the lake
367
00:15:10,471 --> 00:15:12,081
and Hannah's next to him
at the lake.
368
00:15:12,124 --> 00:15:13,778
And then he's back
at the tent,
369
00:15:13,822 --> 00:15:16,346
and just painting a picture
for us to better understand
370
00:15:16,390 --> 00:15:18,305
what we're coming into
when we get to the crisis site.
371
00:15:20,437 --> 00:15:22,047
The sniper team leader
and I kind of
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00:15:22,091 --> 00:15:23,397
developed a hasty plan.
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00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,747
So the snipers were gonna
move to the west side
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00:15:25,790 --> 00:15:27,618
of the lake and see
if they could establish
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00:15:27,662 --> 00:15:30,795
sniper observer positions
on the west side of the lake
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00:15:30,839 --> 00:15:33,145
looking back across the lake
to the north,
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00:15:33,189 --> 00:15:36,148
to give them line of sight
to provide intelligence.
378
00:15:36,192 --> 00:15:38,020
And then my group,
we were going
379
00:15:38,063 --> 00:15:40,762
to continue moving east
below the lake and then move
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00:15:40,805 --> 00:15:43,765
from south to north,
up to the lake.
381
00:15:43,808 --> 00:15:45,810
There is nothing like
a guy on a sniper scope
382
00:15:45,854 --> 00:15:49,597
that's covering your advance
to the target, right?
383
00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,034
So if there's a threat
to Hannah at this point,
384
00:15:52,077 --> 00:15:53,644
or a threat to one of us--
Mm-hmm.
385
00:15:53,688 --> 00:15:56,038
They can solve that problem
very, very easily.
386
00:15:56,081 --> 00:15:57,474
If you were going to devise
387
00:15:57,518 --> 00:15:59,607
the worst possible
hostage rescue,
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00:15:59,650 --> 00:16:02,740
this would be a good contender
because it was daylight,
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00:16:02,784 --> 00:16:05,134
uphill,
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00:16:05,177 --> 00:16:07,484
to a potentially armed
and dangerous subject.
391
00:16:07,528 --> 00:16:09,573
We'd covered maybe
100 meters or so,
392
00:16:09,617 --> 00:16:11,183
and then I heard
over the radio,
393
00:16:11,227 --> 00:16:12,924
"Freeze, freeze,
freeze."
394
00:16:12,968 --> 00:16:15,492
If you're in mid-step, you
don't even finish that step.
395
00:16:15,536 --> 00:16:18,974
The sniper team leader is
relaying to me over the radio
396
00:16:19,017 --> 00:16:22,630
that, hey, DiMaggio
is away from the campsite.
397
00:16:22,673 --> 00:16:26,286
He looks like he's
collecting firewood.
398
00:16:26,329 --> 00:16:28,592
And so we stop
what we're doing.
399
00:16:28,636 --> 00:16:30,507
We all take positions of cover.
400
00:16:30,551 --> 00:16:32,204
30 meters through the trees
and through the underbrush,
401
00:16:32,248 --> 00:16:34,511
I can see this movement
where DiMaggio is.
402
00:16:36,296 --> 00:16:40,212
And then he's off
back towards the campsite.
403
00:16:40,256 --> 00:16:43,172
So then, the airplane overhead,
he says,
404
00:16:43,215 --> 00:16:44,739
"Oh, he's back
at the campsite,"
405
00:16:44,782 --> 00:16:47,829
and then we can see smoke
coming up through the trees.
406
00:16:47,872 --> 00:16:51,354
So now we know, OK,
that's where the tent is,
407
00:16:51,398 --> 00:16:53,356
and that's where we need to go.
408
00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,925
And then the pilots came
over the radio and said,
409
00:16:56,968 --> 00:16:58,796
Hannah is down by the lake.
410
00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,887
She's as far away from DiMaggio
as we've seen her from him.
411
00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,501
So that was the impetus
behind us saying,
412
00:17:07,544 --> 00:17:09,111
OK, now is the time.
413
00:17:09,154 --> 00:17:11,461
So I gave a command--
execute, execute, execute,
414
00:17:11,505 --> 00:17:13,855
and all four of the guys
in front got up
415
00:17:13,898 --> 00:17:16,336
and we just started advancing
on the crisis site.
416
00:17:17,946 --> 00:17:20,557
And then I hear small
caliber firearm discharge.
417
00:17:21,819 --> 00:17:23,343
What's that sound like?
418
00:17:23,386 --> 00:17:25,214
Sounds like bundle
of sticks snapping.
419
00:17:25,257 --> 00:17:27,042
That's DiMaggio opening fire,
420
00:17:27,085 --> 00:17:29,914
and then immediately,
I hear return fire
421
00:17:29,958 --> 00:17:31,699
that I know is our guys.
422
00:17:33,701 --> 00:17:34,658
I immediately
just start running
423
00:17:34,702 --> 00:17:35,920
as fast as I possibly can
424
00:17:35,964 --> 00:17:38,401
straight towards
the crisis site.
425
00:17:38,445 --> 00:17:41,578
Probably covered
20 or 30 meters,
426
00:17:41,622 --> 00:17:43,537
and I popped out
into sort of a clearing
427
00:17:43,580 --> 00:17:45,016
and I could see the lake.
428
00:17:45,060 --> 00:17:47,062
And off to my right,
I heard Hannah screaming.
429
00:17:47,105 --> 00:17:48,977
But our first priority
obviously
430
00:17:49,020 --> 00:17:50,761
is to deal with the subject.
431
00:17:50,805 --> 00:17:54,156
So I turn to my left,
close that distance down,
432
00:17:54,199 --> 00:17:56,985
and come upon DiMaggio
who is at the campsite
433
00:17:57,028 --> 00:17:58,160
laying on his back.
434
00:17:58,203 --> 00:17:59,509
He was dead.
435
00:17:59,553 --> 00:18:01,424
So he had been shot
numerous times.
436
00:18:01,468 --> 00:18:02,860
Told the guys there,
hey, secure him
437
00:18:02,904 --> 00:18:04,384
so we're going to
handcuff him regardless,
438
00:18:04,427 --> 00:18:06,429
you know, just part
of the procedure.
439
00:18:06,473 --> 00:18:09,258
And I said, let's begin
securing the crime scene.
440
00:18:09,301 --> 00:18:10,955
And I ran back over to Hannah.
441
00:18:16,178 --> 00:18:17,919
By this time, the other
two guys that were with us were
442
00:18:17,962 --> 00:18:19,616
providing medical aid.
443
00:18:19,660 --> 00:18:21,401
I said, hey, how is she,
444
00:18:21,444 --> 00:18:23,141
and they're like,
we think she's fine.
445
00:18:23,185 --> 00:18:24,708
So no visible injuries.
446
00:18:24,752 --> 00:18:29,452
And she was incredibly,
incredibly agitated.
447
00:18:29,496 --> 00:18:32,020
I took a very hard
look at the subject,
448
00:18:32,063 --> 00:18:34,936
and I was not quite sure
that it was DiMaggio.
449
00:18:34,979 --> 00:18:36,198
Why is that?
450
00:18:36,241 --> 00:18:38,461
So his face was very gaunt.
451
00:18:38,505 --> 00:18:40,376
We've seen this in the
past with folks that are
452
00:18:40,420 --> 00:18:44,249
suffering from mental issues.
453
00:18:44,293 --> 00:18:45,860
It made me question
whether it was him.
454
00:18:45,903 --> 00:18:48,210
And I looked and I looked
and I looked and I said OK.
455
00:18:48,253 --> 00:18:50,560
So I ran back, and I
said, "Hannah, who is that?"
456
00:18:50,604 --> 00:18:51,953
She goes,
"That's Jim DiMaggio.
457
00:18:51,996 --> 00:18:53,737
Well, how is he?"
458
00:18:53,781 --> 00:18:55,957
I said,
"Don't worry about him.
459
00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,872
He's not gonna
hurt you anymore."
460
00:18:57,915 --> 00:18:59,439
So one of the things
that you have
461
00:18:59,482 --> 00:19:00,614
to understand
in these situations
462
00:19:00,657 --> 00:19:02,137
is the bad guy has a say and--
463
00:19:02,180 --> 00:19:03,399
Absolutely.
464
00:19:03,443 --> 00:19:06,446
He chose,
and he chose poorly.
465
00:19:08,883 --> 00:19:09,927
What about Hannah?
466
00:19:09,971 --> 00:19:11,407
What is she doing
at this point?
467
00:19:11,451 --> 00:19:13,496
She visibly started
to calm down.
468
00:19:13,540 --> 00:19:16,064
And I said, "Hey, Hannah,
we're gonna get you
469
00:19:16,107 --> 00:19:18,762
"out of here really quickly.
470
00:19:18,806 --> 00:19:20,895
"Is there anything here
that's yours
471
00:19:20,938 --> 00:19:22,853
that you wanna take with you?"
472
00:19:22,897 --> 00:19:24,986
And she says, oh, yes, there's
a pair of jeans over there.
473
00:19:25,029 --> 00:19:26,988
And so one of the guys
crawls in the tent,
474
00:19:27,031 --> 00:19:28,511
and he's like, these?
475
00:19:28,555 --> 00:19:31,122
So I grab them, and I said,
Hannah, are these yours?
476
00:19:31,166 --> 00:19:33,298
And she goes no, no,
no, these are my mom's.
477
00:19:33,342 --> 00:19:34,865
How's my mom and my brother?
478
00:19:34,909 --> 00:19:36,824
Mm.
479
00:19:36,867 --> 00:19:38,521
I mean, here's this young woman
who's just been
480
00:19:38,565 --> 00:19:40,001
through this crazy ordeal.
481
00:19:40,044 --> 00:19:41,916
These, you know, guys
pop out of the woods,
482
00:19:41,959 --> 00:19:43,221
and they get in a gunfight.
483
00:19:43,265 --> 00:19:44,745
He was dead.
Right.
484
00:19:44,788 --> 00:19:46,181
And, you know, she's trying
to process all this
485
00:19:46,224 --> 00:19:47,530
and all she wants to do
is get the jeans
486
00:19:47,574 --> 00:19:49,184
so she can give them
back to her mom, right?
487
00:19:49,227 --> 00:19:52,622
When she was saying that
about her mom,
488
00:19:52,666 --> 00:19:54,581
what were you feeling
at that point?
489
00:19:54,624 --> 00:19:57,192
Just I felt--
490
00:19:57,235 --> 00:19:59,020
I was crushed.
491
00:19:59,063 --> 00:20:01,239
I said, hey, Hannah,
we'll figure out
492
00:20:01,283 --> 00:20:03,241
about your mom and your
brother further down the line.
493
00:20:03,285 --> 00:20:05,026
Our goal is to get you off
this mountain as safely
494
00:20:05,069 --> 00:20:07,071
and as quickly as
we possibly can.
495
00:20:07,115 --> 00:20:09,944
Radioed back to the operation
center, helicopter's en route,
496
00:20:09,987 --> 00:20:11,989
and it comes in.
497
00:20:12,033 --> 00:20:13,817
And I said, "Hey, Hannah,
have you ever been
498
00:20:13,861 --> 00:20:15,036
on a helicopter before?"
499
00:20:15,079 --> 00:20:16,559
She said no.
500
00:20:16,603 --> 00:20:17,560
I said, "OK, make
sure you look around.
501
00:20:17,604 --> 00:20:19,170
It's pretty cool."
502
00:20:19,214 --> 00:20:20,824
And, you know, she visibly
got excited and, you know,
503
00:20:20,868 --> 00:20:21,956
actually saw a smile
on her face.
504
00:20:21,999 --> 00:20:23,348
That made me feel good.
505
00:20:25,002 --> 00:20:26,874
The helicopter comes in.
506
00:20:26,917 --> 00:20:29,180
We run up there
and get her strapped in.
507
00:20:29,224 --> 00:20:31,443
And helicopter takes off,
and that's the last time
508
00:20:31,487 --> 00:20:33,750
I saw Hannah Anderson.
509
00:20:33,794 --> 00:20:35,665
What happened to the kitty?
510
00:20:35,709 --> 00:20:37,058
Sure enough, that night,
511
00:20:37,101 --> 00:20:38,450
they were securing
the crime scene.
512
00:20:38,494 --> 00:20:40,583
The cat wandered
back into the tent,
513
00:20:40,627 --> 00:20:42,498
and they rescued
the cat as well.
514
00:21:00,690 --> 00:21:02,692
Chuck, you've worked
all kinds of cases.
515
00:21:02,736 --> 00:21:05,129
What makes this case stand out
516
00:21:05,173 --> 00:21:07,131
amongst all the cases
that you've done?
517
00:21:07,175 --> 00:21:10,700
When you have the ability
to save somebody
518
00:21:10,744 --> 00:21:12,659
who finds themselves in this
horrible set of circumstances
519
00:21:12,702 --> 00:21:14,399
through no fault of their own,
520
00:21:14,443 --> 00:21:17,577
it's a tremendously rewarding
experience.
521
00:21:17,620 --> 00:21:21,102
Nothing prepares you
for that elation.
522
00:21:21,145 --> 00:21:23,060
When I put her
on that helicopter
523
00:21:23,104 --> 00:21:25,280
and that helicopter
flew away, I mean,
524
00:21:25,323 --> 00:21:27,630
I was overwhelmed, overwhelmed
with positive emotion
525
00:21:27,674 --> 00:21:30,154
and you successfully
accomplished the mission.
526
00:21:30,198 --> 00:21:35,638
And the idea that as horrible
as this circumstance was,
527
00:21:35,682 --> 00:21:38,249
we gave Hannah
at least a future.
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