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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,894 --> 00:00:04,287 We had these reports coming in 2 00:00:04,330 --> 00:00:06,681 that the US embassy in Libya had been attacked. 3 00:00:06,724 --> 00:00:09,727 The attackers were Muslim protesters, 4 00:00:09,771 --> 00:00:12,208 apparently angry about an Internet film 5 00:00:12,251 --> 00:00:13,949 produced in the United States. 6 00:00:15,994 --> 00:00:18,301 There were up to 60 individuals gathered 7 00:00:18,344 --> 00:00:19,345 outside the embassy. 8 00:00:21,260 --> 00:00:24,916 They came armed with AK-47s, guns. 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:26,962 They gathered gasoline canisters 10 00:00:27,005 --> 00:00:28,485 so that they could burn it. 11 00:00:28,529 --> 00:00:32,576 That fire was tremendous. 12 00:00:32,620 --> 00:00:34,186 This was anything 13 00:00:34,230 --> 00:00:36,624 but a protest gone bad. 14 00:00:36,667 --> 00:00:39,365 The news comes across that the ambassador is missing. 15 00:00:39,409 --> 00:00:41,106 My name is Chris Stevens, 16 00:00:41,150 --> 00:00:43,239 and I'm the new US ambassador to Libya. 17 00:00:43,282 --> 00:00:44,327 We're trying to figure out exactly 18 00:00:44,370 --> 00:00:46,198 who was behind this attack. 19 00:00:46,242 --> 00:00:48,113 It's like a 10,000-piece puzzle. 20 00:00:49,462 --> 00:00:51,073 But you don't have the pieces. 21 00:00:51,116 --> 00:00:52,553 And you don't even have a picture 22 00:00:52,596 --> 00:00:55,120 to try and put it together. 23 00:00:55,164 --> 00:00:57,775 There were about ten employees inside the building. 24 00:00:57,819 --> 00:00:59,864 They still haven't accounted for everyone 25 00:00:59,908 --> 00:01:01,605 and haven't secured the consulate. 26 00:01:01,649 --> 00:01:03,346 I don't know that there can be 27 00:01:03,389 --> 00:01:05,435 any greater motivating factor than to bring to justice 28 00:01:05,478 --> 00:01:08,351 those individuals who are responsible. 29 00:01:08,394 --> 00:01:10,919 But our challenge now is trying to figure out who they are. 30 00:01:16,011 --> 00:01:19,101 In the FBI, we make a lot of headlines... 31 00:01:22,191 --> 00:01:23,627 Drug busts, 32 00:01:23,671 --> 00:01:26,499 mob stings, 33 00:01:26,543 --> 00:01:28,240 terrorists takedowns. 34 00:01:28,284 --> 00:01:30,373 Get down! Get down! 35 00:01:30,416 --> 00:01:32,723 We understand why people want to tell stories about US. 36 00:01:32,767 --> 00:01:33,768 Mark it. 37 00:01:33,811 --> 00:01:35,291 - Freeze! - FBI. 38 00:01:35,334 --> 00:01:36,945 - FBI! - Action! 39 00:01:36,988 --> 00:01:39,034 But they don't know the half of it. 40 00:01:40,731 --> 00:01:42,820 What really goes down, 41 00:01:42,864 --> 00:01:45,083 we save that for each other, 42 00:01:45,127 --> 00:01:47,129 when we're talking agent to agent. 43 00:01:50,219 --> 00:01:53,309 This is "FBI True." 44 00:02:03,580 --> 00:02:07,236 Cindy Coppola is a 23-year veteran of the FBI. 45 00:02:07,279 --> 00:02:09,804 She worked on cases that included organized crime 46 00:02:09,847 --> 00:02:11,675 and terrorism and took part 47 00:02:11,719 --> 00:02:13,677 in multinational investigations 48 00:02:13,721 --> 00:02:16,332 into drug trafficking and money laundering. 49 00:02:16,375 --> 00:02:18,682 Coppola finished her career with the Los Angeles division, 50 00:02:18,726 --> 00:02:21,729 running two offices, supervising investigations, 51 00:02:21,772 --> 00:02:24,427 and providing undercover security for special events. 52 00:02:26,690 --> 00:02:29,867 September rolls around, the anniversary of 9/11. 53 00:02:29,911 --> 00:02:31,303 What are you doing? September 11th, 2012, 54 00:02:31,347 --> 00:02:32,696 it wasn't lost on anyone, 55 00:02:32,740 --> 00:02:33,828 the significance of that day. No, of course. 56 00:02:37,832 --> 00:02:39,877 The antennas are up. 57 00:02:39,921 --> 00:02:41,357 New York is always a target, 58 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:42,532 and we wanna make sure, you know-- 59 00:02:42,575 --> 00:02:43,620 No copycat. 60 00:02:43,664 --> 00:02:45,013 - No copycat attack. - Yeah. 61 00:02:45,056 --> 00:02:48,799 Ari Mahairas joined the FBI in 1996. 62 00:02:48,843 --> 00:02:50,845 He worked in the Special Operations 63 00:02:50,888 --> 00:02:52,673 and Criminal divisions in New York, 64 00:02:52,716 --> 00:02:54,718 later joining the Counterterrorism Division 65 00:02:54,762 --> 00:02:57,460 and the Joint Terrorism Task Force. 66 00:02:57,503 --> 00:03:00,028 He retired as Special Agent in Charge of New York's 67 00:03:00,071 --> 00:03:02,726 Counterintelligence Cyber Division. 68 00:03:02,770 --> 00:03:04,772 You know, we're thinking everything is going okay 69 00:03:04,815 --> 00:03:06,817 and wrap up the day. 70 00:03:06,861 --> 00:03:08,384 I'm listening to the news driving home, 71 00:03:08,427 --> 00:03:09,907 and we have these reports coming in 72 00:03:09,951 --> 00:03:12,431 that the US embassy in Libya had been attacked. 73 00:03:12,475 --> 00:03:14,738 On Tuesday, dozens of protesters attacked 74 00:03:14,782 --> 00:03:17,306 the US embassy in Egypt and burned down 75 00:03:17,349 --> 00:03:21,397 the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya. 76 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,573 I get home and turn on the TV immediately, 77 00:03:23,616 --> 00:03:25,618 just trying to absorb and understand 78 00:03:25,662 --> 00:03:28,752 exactly where we are, because I know, no doubt, 79 00:03:28,796 --> 00:03:30,362 that CT3 is gonna open a case on this. 80 00:03:30,406 --> 00:03:32,190 Of course, because New York handles that territory. 81 00:03:32,234 --> 00:03:34,236 So CT3 had the extraterritorial 82 00:03:34,279 --> 00:03:36,673 responsibility for criminal activity 83 00:03:36,717 --> 00:03:39,154 that took place against US interests in North Africa. 84 00:03:39,197 --> 00:03:42,026 So this would fall within our area of responsibility. 85 00:03:42,070 --> 00:03:44,159 And it wasn't really an embassy at the time, right? 86 00:03:44,202 --> 00:03:46,248 That's how it was being reported in the news. 87 00:03:46,291 --> 00:03:48,990 But in reality, what was attacked was 88 00:03:49,033 --> 00:03:51,775 the US temporary mission facility in Benghazi, 89 00:03:51,819 --> 00:03:52,907 or the special mission. 90 00:03:55,692 --> 00:03:58,042 And so we hear the news, and there's a report 91 00:03:58,086 --> 00:03:59,827 that Ambassador Chris Stevens had gone missing. 92 00:04:06,311 --> 00:04:07,835 We're in New York. This is taking place... 93 00:04:07,878 --> 00:04:10,272 - Yeah, of course. - 5,000 miles away in Libya. 94 00:04:10,315 --> 00:04:12,796 The news comes across that the ambassador is missing. 95 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,320 So I get in the car, and I start making phone calls 96 00:04:15,364 --> 00:04:17,714 to the different supervisors, 97 00:04:17,758 --> 00:04:19,063 the agents that are on the squad. 98 00:04:19,107 --> 00:04:20,978 We got to the office, 99 00:04:21,022 --> 00:04:24,765 and we began gathering as much information as we can. 100 00:04:24,808 --> 00:04:26,636 The initial reports that were coming 101 00:04:26,679 --> 00:04:29,291 from the US government side was that this was a result 102 00:04:29,334 --> 00:04:33,077 of a protest stemming from a video. 103 00:04:34,557 --> 00:04:36,646 The attackers were Muslim protesters, 104 00:04:36,689 --> 00:04:39,475 apparently angry about an Internet film 105 00:04:39,518 --> 00:04:41,520 produced in the United States 106 00:04:41,564 --> 00:04:44,785 that ridicules the prophet Muhammad. 107 00:04:44,828 --> 00:04:46,699 And as a result of that video 108 00:04:46,743 --> 00:04:48,353 that was found to be offensive, 109 00:04:48,397 --> 00:04:50,791 there was a spontaneous protest in Egypt. 110 00:04:56,448 --> 00:04:58,886 And the initial reports that was being given 111 00:04:58,929 --> 00:05:02,411 by the government at the time was that the events in Egypt 112 00:05:02,454 --> 00:05:05,327 sparked what had taken place in Benghazi, Libya. 113 00:05:09,940 --> 00:05:11,289 And the other thing is, 114 00:05:11,333 --> 00:05:13,161 what was the ambassador doing there? 115 00:05:13,204 --> 00:05:14,771 What was his role? 116 00:05:15,903 --> 00:05:17,252 Asalaam alaikum. 117 00:05:17,295 --> 00:05:18,644 My name is Chris Stevens, 118 00:05:18,688 --> 00:05:21,169 and I'm the new US ambassador to Libya. 119 00:05:21,212 --> 00:05:23,867 So there was a lot going on in Libya. 120 00:05:23,911 --> 00:05:26,174 As we know, it was just after the fall of Gaddafi. 121 00:05:30,439 --> 00:05:32,876 There were a lot of militias operating 122 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,312 in the vacuum of authority, 123 00:05:34,356 --> 00:05:36,140 and everybody was vying 124 00:05:36,184 --> 00:05:37,576 to get a piece of the pie, if you will. 125 00:05:37,620 --> 00:05:40,579 Ambassador Stevens in Benghazi was there 126 00:05:40,623 --> 00:05:42,190 doing what diplomats do. 127 00:05:42,233 --> 00:05:46,368 He was there to establish relationships, 128 00:05:46,411 --> 00:05:48,718 meet with the locals, his counterparts, 129 00:05:48,761 --> 00:05:50,589 and build those relationships 130 00:05:50,633 --> 00:05:52,243 that advance the mutual interests 131 00:05:52,287 --> 00:05:54,898 of both the United States and the Libyan government. 132 00:05:54,942 --> 00:05:56,682 I am excited to return to Libya 133 00:05:56,726 --> 00:05:59,033 to continue the great work we've started, 134 00:05:59,076 --> 00:06:00,773 building a solid partnership 135 00:06:00,817 --> 00:06:03,037 between the United States and Libya to help you, 136 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,604 the Libyan people, achieve your goals. 137 00:06:05,648 --> 00:06:07,868 And that night, he actually had dinner 138 00:06:07,911 --> 00:06:09,695 with some of his local counterparts. 139 00:06:09,739 --> 00:06:12,350 After the meeting had concluded, 140 00:06:12,394 --> 00:06:14,700 the ambassador retired to his residence. 141 00:06:14,744 --> 00:06:16,572 And it was about that time 142 00:06:16,615 --> 00:06:18,313 when the attack actually started. 143 00:06:22,883 --> 00:06:25,407 What were you hearing that you weren't hearing-- 144 00:06:25,450 --> 00:06:26,495 like, seeing on the news? 145 00:06:26,538 --> 00:06:27,800 One of the toughest things 146 00:06:27,844 --> 00:06:30,238 you do in this type of an investigation 147 00:06:30,281 --> 00:06:33,458 is to gather the intelligence and make sense of it. 148 00:06:36,984 --> 00:06:39,290 Intelligence work-- well, especially in this case, 149 00:06:39,334 --> 00:06:41,945 is like putting a puzzle together. 150 00:06:41,989 --> 00:06:44,078 It's like a 10,000-piece puzzle, 151 00:06:44,121 --> 00:06:45,601 but you don't have the pieces. 152 00:06:47,820 --> 00:06:49,387 And you don't even have a picture 153 00:06:49,431 --> 00:06:50,998 to try and put it together. 154 00:06:51,041 --> 00:06:53,826 But the initial intelligence we were receiving, 155 00:06:53,870 --> 00:06:56,960 I think it was fairly reasonable to conclude 156 00:06:57,004 --> 00:07:00,877 that this was anything but a protest gone bad. 157 00:07:05,012 --> 00:07:08,754 The reports were, there were 30 and up to 60 individuals 158 00:07:08,798 --> 00:07:10,974 who had gathered outside the embassy. 159 00:07:11,018 --> 00:07:12,976 But one of the telltale signs was, 160 00:07:13,020 --> 00:07:16,284 they came armed with AK-47s and RPGs. 161 00:07:20,027 --> 00:07:22,725 Right, so that doesn't follow the script... 162 00:07:22,768 --> 00:07:24,118 - Correct. - Of a protest gone bad. 163 00:07:24,161 --> 00:07:26,729 Of a "protest," right. 164 00:07:26,772 --> 00:07:28,861 Do you know where the ambassador is at this point? 165 00:07:28,905 --> 00:07:31,473 The first indication we had of any whereabouts 166 00:07:31,516 --> 00:07:33,997 of the ambassador came in a social media post, 167 00:07:34,041 --> 00:07:36,826 which depicted the ambassador's lifeless body in a picture. 168 00:07:41,918 --> 00:07:44,790 And we didn't know exactly what was happening. 169 00:07:44,834 --> 00:07:47,097 But we began to sort of flesh that out-- 170 00:07:47,141 --> 00:07:48,838 Right, through the intel community. 171 00:07:48,881 --> 00:07:50,622 And what we were able to determine 172 00:07:50,666 --> 00:07:52,581 was that the ambassador was found 173 00:07:52,624 --> 00:07:55,801 inside a room of a safe house. 174 00:07:55,845 --> 00:07:58,761 And despite appearing to be lifeless, 175 00:07:58,804 --> 00:08:00,893 he was taken to the Benghazi Medical Center, 176 00:08:00,937 --> 00:08:02,808 where attempts to resuscitate him failed. 177 00:08:02,852 --> 00:08:06,029 The US ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens, 178 00:08:06,073 --> 00:08:09,337 died yesterday when Muslim protesters stormed 179 00:08:09,380 --> 00:08:13,384 and set fire to the US consulate in Benghazi. 180 00:08:16,909 --> 00:08:18,781 So you're at the office, 181 00:08:18,824 --> 00:08:21,566 getting everybody broken into different teams. 182 00:08:21,610 --> 00:08:22,828 What's our plan of attack? 183 00:08:22,872 --> 00:08:25,005 As we're strategizing in the office, 184 00:08:25,048 --> 00:08:26,963 we're still receiving intelligence. 185 00:08:27,007 --> 00:08:28,921 And we're trying to figure out exactly what happened. 186 00:08:28,965 --> 00:08:30,488 And so what we did was, 187 00:08:30,532 --> 00:08:33,230 deployed the investigative team. 188 00:08:33,274 --> 00:08:34,797 They went to Ramstein, 189 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,321 where we spun up the forward operating base, 190 00:08:37,365 --> 00:08:39,541 where they would eventually rendezvous 191 00:08:39,584 --> 00:08:42,065 and meet up with the victims... 192 00:08:42,109 --> 00:08:43,371 - Sure. - Of the attack, 193 00:08:43,414 --> 00:08:46,330 who were just out of the danger zone, 194 00:08:46,374 --> 00:08:48,593 who had been evacuated. 195 00:08:48,637 --> 00:08:51,335 And a law enforcement source said the FBI would 196 00:08:51,379 --> 00:08:53,468 begin the investigation by interviewing 197 00:08:53,511 --> 00:08:55,948 the 30 American survivors of the attack, 198 00:08:55,992 --> 00:08:59,952 who are now at a US military base in Germany. 199 00:08:59,996 --> 00:09:02,390 The survivors painted a terrifying picture 200 00:09:02,433 --> 00:09:03,521 of what unfolded that night. 201 00:09:05,219 --> 00:09:07,917 So at some point in Benghazi, 202 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,267 there's a group of militants gathered. 203 00:09:11,877 --> 00:09:13,923 They breach the C1 gate. 204 00:09:15,620 --> 00:09:17,927 They start moving through the compound unimpeded. 205 00:09:22,018 --> 00:09:24,151 After setting fire to the guardhouse, 206 00:09:24,194 --> 00:09:26,718 they made their way to the main house. 207 00:09:29,504 --> 00:09:31,506 Inside the main house, there was a safe room. 208 00:09:31,549 --> 00:09:33,377 That's where the DS agent was 209 00:09:33,421 --> 00:09:36,511 with Ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith, 210 00:09:36,554 --> 00:09:39,296 another diplomat who was the information management officer 211 00:09:39,340 --> 00:09:41,690 for the embassy. 212 00:09:41,733 --> 00:09:43,779 The militants try to break into the safe room. 213 00:09:49,176 --> 00:09:52,570 Unable to do so, 214 00:09:52,614 --> 00:09:55,095 they gather gasoline canisters... 215 00:09:58,010 --> 00:10:00,709 And put everything that they could together 216 00:10:00,752 --> 00:10:01,797 so that they could burn it. 217 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,799 That fire was tremendous. 218 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,806 As the fire burned and raged, 219 00:10:10,849 --> 00:10:13,287 burning everything in its path, 220 00:10:13,330 --> 00:10:15,115 smoke started getting into the room 221 00:10:15,158 --> 00:10:19,206 where the ambassador was with Sean Smith and the DS agent. 222 00:10:19,249 --> 00:10:23,688 The DS agent, believing he had the ambassador 223 00:10:23,732 --> 00:10:26,300 and Sean behind him, climbs out of the window, 224 00:10:26,343 --> 00:10:28,519 gasping for air, barely conscious. 225 00:10:28,563 --> 00:10:30,304 Realizing though, that he did not have 226 00:10:30,347 --> 00:10:32,480 the ambassador and Sean with him, 227 00:10:32,523 --> 00:10:35,135 he climbed back in to find them. 228 00:10:41,184 --> 00:10:43,665 He was unable to do so. 229 00:10:43,708 --> 00:10:46,929 The GRS units from the CIA annex arrive. 230 00:10:56,243 --> 00:10:58,114 And as they arrived at the special mission, 231 00:10:58,158 --> 00:10:59,376 they were met with gunfire. 232 00:11:06,296 --> 00:11:09,256 But they were able to push back the attackers 233 00:11:09,299 --> 00:11:11,780 and were able to gain entry into the special mission... 234 00:11:14,086 --> 00:11:16,872 where they eventually find Sean Smith. 235 00:11:16,915 --> 00:11:19,004 Unfortunately, he had already passed. 236 00:11:22,660 --> 00:11:24,532 But they were unable to find the ambassador. 237 00:11:24,575 --> 00:11:28,057 And realizing that the situation was deteriorating, 238 00:11:28,100 --> 00:11:29,972 they make their way back to the CIA annex. 239 00:11:32,453 --> 00:11:35,717 And almost immediately, the battle starts again. 240 00:11:37,371 --> 00:11:39,329 But this time, with heavy weapons, 241 00:11:39,373 --> 00:11:42,419 small arms fire, and even a mortar attack. 242 00:11:42,463 --> 00:11:46,162 Those direct mortar hits resulted in the death 243 00:11:46,206 --> 00:11:49,470 of Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty of the GRS units. 244 00:11:52,690 --> 00:11:54,779 Even not being there, just hearing the story, 245 00:11:54,823 --> 00:11:58,218 and then with media reports actually showing you 246 00:11:58,261 --> 00:11:59,610 the burned down buildings... 247 00:12:03,919 --> 00:12:06,443 I don't know that there can be any greater motivating factor 248 00:12:06,487 --> 00:12:08,402 than to bring to justice those individuals 249 00:12:08,445 --> 00:12:11,796 who are responsible for the deaths of the Americans, 250 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,060 Ambassador Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, 251 00:12:15,104 --> 00:12:18,499 and Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty. 252 00:12:24,287 --> 00:12:25,288 Are you getting any information 253 00:12:25,332 --> 00:12:27,116 that you might be able to use 254 00:12:27,159 --> 00:12:29,466 to start putting together a piece of an investigation? 255 00:12:29,510 --> 00:12:31,425 We're beginning to collect evidence. 256 00:12:35,037 --> 00:12:35,994 We're trying to figure out exactly 257 00:12:36,038 --> 00:12:37,561 who was behind this attack. 258 00:12:39,824 --> 00:12:42,305 Some of the information that was developed early on 259 00:12:42,349 --> 00:12:46,091 were the militias who may have had a part in this, 260 00:12:46,135 --> 00:12:48,311 Ansar al-Sharia, Benghazi faction; 261 00:12:48,355 --> 00:12:50,661 Ansar Al-Sharia, Darnah faction; 262 00:12:50,705 --> 00:12:53,316 and then Ubaydah bin Jarrah, or UBJ, 263 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:54,970 was the third faction 264 00:12:55,013 --> 00:12:58,278 because of their strength in that area 265 00:12:58,321 --> 00:13:00,976 and their intent on establishing Sharia law. 266 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,372 So these three groups rise sort of to the top 267 00:13:05,415 --> 00:13:07,852 of your suspect list. 268 00:13:07,896 --> 00:13:10,420 So the information is coming in fast and furious. 269 00:13:10,464 --> 00:13:12,640 One of the things that early on we were able 270 00:13:12,683 --> 00:13:15,382 to get our hands on was the video surveillance system 271 00:13:15,425 --> 00:13:16,731 of the mission. 272 00:13:16,774 --> 00:13:18,167 That proved to be critical. 273 00:13:21,257 --> 00:13:23,912 And what we were able to gather was not only 274 00:13:23,955 --> 00:13:26,828 a sort of better picture of what actually happened. 275 00:13:26,871 --> 00:13:28,569 - Sure. - That was corroborated 276 00:13:28,612 --> 00:13:30,962 by the statements given 277 00:13:31,006 --> 00:13:33,051 of the victims who had been evacuated. 278 00:13:33,095 --> 00:13:35,837 But we were able to get some still photos now 279 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,099 of individuals who were there. 280 00:13:41,625 --> 00:13:43,366 Potential suspects. 281 00:13:43,410 --> 00:13:44,759 But our challenge now is trying to figure out 282 00:13:44,802 --> 00:13:48,328 who they are, trying to identify those subjects. 283 00:13:48,371 --> 00:13:52,810 But once we're able to get the actual photos, the stills, 284 00:13:52,854 --> 00:13:54,377 we give them off to the intel analysts, 285 00:13:54,421 --> 00:13:56,248 and they did a tremendous job actually 286 00:13:56,292 --> 00:13:57,554 in putting names to faces. 287 00:13:59,121 --> 00:14:00,383 Where are they getting those names from? 288 00:14:00,427 --> 00:14:01,428 Like, how are they figuring that? 289 00:14:01,471 --> 00:14:03,604 Is it from older cases, or is it, 290 00:14:03,647 --> 00:14:06,215 you know, collection of intel from the past? 291 00:14:06,258 --> 00:14:07,521 - All of the above, right? - Right. 292 00:14:07,564 --> 00:14:09,392 You know, you gotta go to the old 293 00:14:09,436 --> 00:14:11,220 classic detective work. 294 00:14:11,263 --> 00:14:14,049 And so you start researching older cases. 295 00:14:14,092 --> 00:14:16,051 You start passing those photos around 296 00:14:16,094 --> 00:14:18,532 to sources for identification. Sure. 297 00:14:18,575 --> 00:14:20,621 And you start getting these names back. 298 00:14:20,664 --> 00:14:22,710 But you know, despite the progress we made there, 299 00:14:22,753 --> 00:14:24,581 there was still many faces without names. 300 00:14:28,368 --> 00:14:30,239 That you didn't know who they were? 301 00:14:30,282 --> 00:14:32,372 No, we had no idea. But you know though 302 00:14:32,415 --> 00:14:34,199 that typically what we would do, 303 00:14:34,243 --> 00:14:36,550 we would reach out to the host nation, 304 00:14:36,593 --> 00:14:39,074 who's best suited to identify their own citizens, 305 00:14:39,117 --> 00:14:40,815 and say, hey, who is this person? 306 00:14:40,858 --> 00:14:43,034 But unfortunately, you can't-- 307 00:14:43,078 --> 00:14:44,035 there's no host-- There's no host nation. 308 00:14:46,168 --> 00:14:49,389 The ability to collaborate with them was limited at best. 309 00:14:49,432 --> 00:14:50,477 - Which is a shame. - And so now we have 310 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,000 to find a creative way. 311 00:14:52,043 --> 00:14:53,741 How do we do that? 312 00:14:53,784 --> 00:14:55,177 Well, one of the things that they did 313 00:14:55,220 --> 00:14:58,093 was coordinate with state department DS agents... 314 00:14:58,136 --> 00:14:59,486 - Yeah. - Who were previously 315 00:14:59,529 --> 00:15:00,661 on the ground and had established 316 00:15:00,704 --> 00:15:01,879 relationships with locals. 317 00:15:03,881 --> 00:15:05,448 Whether they're going three months or six months 318 00:15:05,492 --> 00:15:06,797 or a year, there's people that had been 319 00:15:06,841 --> 00:15:09,452 previously assigned there, just left, 320 00:15:09,496 --> 00:15:10,932 and hopefully established a relationship 321 00:15:10,975 --> 00:15:12,673 with some locals who we can now reach out to. 322 00:15:12,716 --> 00:15:13,935 Great idea. 323 00:15:13,978 --> 00:15:15,937 So we had some positive responses. 324 00:15:15,980 --> 00:15:17,721 And so people who were willing to help, right, 325 00:15:17,765 --> 00:15:19,114 because not everybody was a bad guy. 326 00:15:21,551 --> 00:15:25,599 There were some people on that video that moved around 327 00:15:25,642 --> 00:15:27,992 with a little bit more air of authority. 328 00:15:29,733 --> 00:15:32,649 They appear to be directing others on the compound. 329 00:15:32,693 --> 00:15:34,477 - Interesting. - And at some point, 330 00:15:34,521 --> 00:15:37,828 the FBI did put out a wanted poster 331 00:15:37,872 --> 00:15:40,396 based on the stills that were taken. 332 00:15:42,616 --> 00:15:44,705 As the pieces of the puzzle began to draw 333 00:15:44,748 --> 00:15:48,491 a clearer picture, one image came to the forefront 334 00:15:48,535 --> 00:15:50,232 of their possible ringleader. 335 00:15:50,275 --> 00:15:52,364 And that was Ahmed Abu Khattala, 336 00:15:52,408 --> 00:15:54,889 the leader of Ubaydah Bin Jarrah, or UBJ. 337 00:15:57,979 --> 00:15:59,981 So you have potential ringleader. 338 00:16:00,024 --> 00:16:03,245 What, in your mind, did you guys wanna do? 339 00:16:03,288 --> 00:16:04,855 Can you arrest anybody? 340 00:16:04,899 --> 00:16:06,378 You know, it's not our country. 341 00:16:06,422 --> 00:16:09,077 These cases are always difficult to do, even at home. 342 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,557 But in this particular case, 343 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,341 working in a hostile, non-permission environment, 344 00:16:12,384 --> 00:16:13,864 it wasn't the same old thing. 345 00:16:13,908 --> 00:16:15,779 But the first thing that the case agents did, 346 00:16:15,823 --> 00:16:17,651 along with their US attorney counterparts, 347 00:16:17,694 --> 00:16:19,348 they presented the case to the judge, 348 00:16:19,391 --> 00:16:21,655 who approved an arrest warrant for Abu Khattala. 349 00:16:24,092 --> 00:16:25,963 And in this particular case with Abu Khattala, 350 00:16:26,007 --> 00:16:27,530 it was gonna prove to be a little bit more difficult, 351 00:16:27,574 --> 00:16:29,576 not only in actually being able to do it, 352 00:16:29,619 --> 00:16:31,099 but challenging because you also 353 00:16:31,142 --> 00:16:32,448 have to know where they are. 354 00:16:32,492 --> 00:16:34,494 And he wasn't an easy individual to track. 355 00:16:39,150 --> 00:16:42,545 While in country, and while tracking Khattala, 356 00:16:42,589 --> 00:16:45,156 we also have some fidelity on Anas Al-Liby. 357 00:16:49,378 --> 00:16:52,599 Now, Al-Liby, as you know, was the individual indicted 358 00:16:52,642 --> 00:16:54,775 for his participation in the 1998 embassy bombings 359 00:16:54,818 --> 00:16:56,211 in Kenya and Tanzania. Yes, yeah. 360 00:16:56,254 --> 00:16:58,387 Resulted in the death of over 220 people. 361 00:17:03,784 --> 00:17:06,308 But approval wasn't given for both, 362 00:17:06,351 --> 00:17:07,657 a dual operation, 363 00:17:07,701 --> 00:17:09,267 a simultaneous capture operation 364 00:17:09,311 --> 00:17:11,748 of Al-Liby and Khattala. 365 00:17:11,792 --> 00:17:14,359 And so the decision was made to pursue Al-Liby. 366 00:17:16,623 --> 00:17:19,321 And after the capture operation 367 00:17:19,364 --> 00:17:21,715 becomes public on Al-Liby... 368 00:17:21,758 --> 00:17:25,153 He is believed to have once been close to Osama bin Laden 369 00:17:25,196 --> 00:17:28,330 and is accused of playing a role in the 1998 bombings 370 00:17:28,373 --> 00:17:30,332 of two American embassies in Africa, 371 00:17:30,375 --> 00:17:32,464 which left more than 200 dead. 372 00:17:32,508 --> 00:17:35,816 All chaos breaks loose on the streets of Libya. 373 00:17:39,994 --> 00:17:42,300 Of course, because they're pissed off again. 374 00:17:42,344 --> 00:17:43,998 It was a little too hot, and the US government, 375 00:17:44,041 --> 00:17:45,913 the officials weren't comfortable 376 00:17:45,956 --> 00:17:48,045 in authorizing that operation at that time. 377 00:17:48,089 --> 00:17:51,179 So that put your arrest plan on hold, which wasn't helpful. 378 00:17:51,222 --> 00:17:53,268 Well, it wasn't helpful that Khattala was free 379 00:17:53,311 --> 00:17:54,617 to move about, right? Sure. 380 00:17:54,661 --> 00:17:56,488 And it certainly wasn't helpful 381 00:17:56,532 --> 00:17:58,490 when he was sitting in a hotel lobby, 382 00:17:58,534 --> 00:18:01,189 sipping on his fruit juice, giving interviews. 383 00:18:01,232 --> 00:18:03,974 We met with Ahmed Abu Khattala in public 384 00:18:04,018 --> 00:18:06,237 at the coffee shop of a well-known hotel 385 00:18:06,281 --> 00:18:09,240 here in Benghazi for around two hours. 386 00:18:09,284 --> 00:18:11,199 And he agreed to let us film audio 387 00:18:11,242 --> 00:18:13,636 but not video of our conversation. 388 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,420 He didn't implicate himself 389 00:18:15,464 --> 00:18:17,292 in any of the wrongdoing, right? 390 00:18:17,335 --> 00:18:21,209 But what he did say was, he was there that night, 391 00:18:21,252 --> 00:18:22,819 but he didn't participate. 392 00:18:38,530 --> 00:18:40,968 As we look at this and try to say, 393 00:18:41,011 --> 00:18:43,318 well, can we get any good out of that? 394 00:18:43,361 --> 00:18:44,885 The truth of the matter is, yeah, 395 00:18:44,928 --> 00:18:46,626 because now we have Abu Khattala 396 00:18:46,669 --> 00:18:48,410 on film saying he was there. 397 00:18:48,453 --> 00:18:50,499 He thinks he's gotten away with this. 398 00:18:50,542 --> 00:18:51,674 It's almost like a mockery. 399 00:18:51,718 --> 00:18:54,677 For me, Abu Khattala's actions 400 00:18:54,721 --> 00:18:56,548 was thumbing his nose 401 00:18:56,592 --> 00:18:58,289 to US government... US government, yeah. 402 00:18:58,333 --> 00:19:00,204 To the acts of violence 403 00:19:00,248 --> 00:19:01,945 and the terrorism that he was a part of. 404 00:19:01,989 --> 00:19:04,382 Certainly wasn't a good look. 405 00:19:04,426 --> 00:19:06,297 But he wasn't free from being monitored. 406 00:19:09,736 --> 00:19:11,738 When he showed up, he gave us a starting point 407 00:19:11,781 --> 00:19:13,740 that we could continue to track his movements. 408 00:19:13,783 --> 00:19:16,612 Not only did we have something coming out of his own mouth, 409 00:19:16,656 --> 00:19:18,440 but we know where he is now. 410 00:19:18,483 --> 00:19:20,790 And so he may have felt comfortable, 411 00:19:20,834 --> 00:19:22,792 but we were certainly moving towards a day 412 00:19:22,836 --> 00:19:24,446 where he would not feel comfortable. 413 00:19:24,489 --> 00:19:26,970 It's not until a few months later 414 00:19:27,014 --> 00:19:30,974 where we start developing plans to execute the arrest warrant. 415 00:19:31,018 --> 00:19:35,283 And so the FBI case team worked hand in hand 416 00:19:35,326 --> 00:19:38,068 with their USIC counterparts, 417 00:19:38,112 --> 00:19:40,331 developed a source who can get close to Khattala. 418 00:19:43,291 --> 00:19:45,728 - Placement and access. - Placement and access. 419 00:19:45,772 --> 00:19:49,993 And eventually, an individual was identified who, 420 00:19:50,037 --> 00:19:53,605 based on his credibility in and around the Benghazi area, 421 00:19:53,649 --> 00:19:56,521 who was capable of getting close to Khattala 422 00:19:56,565 --> 00:20:00,047 and developing the finer points of a capture mission. 423 00:20:00,090 --> 00:20:01,831 So was that source working well for-- 424 00:20:01,875 --> 00:20:03,528 The source is doing a tremendous job, 425 00:20:03,572 --> 00:20:05,139 absolutely phenomenal job. 426 00:20:05,182 --> 00:20:07,750 As you know, these capture operations, 427 00:20:07,794 --> 00:20:09,273 meticulous planning is required. 428 00:20:09,317 --> 00:20:11,145 Of course. It's gotta be all lined up. 429 00:20:11,188 --> 00:20:12,799 One of the things the source was able to do 430 00:20:12,842 --> 00:20:14,801 was speak with Khattala 431 00:20:14,844 --> 00:20:17,455 and get him to visit a seaside villa. 432 00:20:21,416 --> 00:20:24,158 The idea that was being pitched was, 433 00:20:24,201 --> 00:20:26,551 Khattala could use this place as a safe house 434 00:20:26,595 --> 00:20:28,031 and a place to rest, 435 00:20:28,075 --> 00:20:30,860 because as powerful as he was, 436 00:20:30,904 --> 00:20:32,557 somebody always wants the crown. 437 00:20:32,601 --> 00:20:34,429 - Yeah. - So he was targeted as well. 438 00:20:34,472 --> 00:20:36,170 There were rival militia factions there 439 00:20:36,213 --> 00:20:37,649 that were not necessarily in line. 440 00:20:37,693 --> 00:20:39,434 - Yeah, he's not stupid. - Right, he's not stupid. 441 00:20:39,477 --> 00:20:40,565 He knows he has enemies. 442 00:20:40,609 --> 00:20:42,089 He agreed to it. 443 00:20:42,132 --> 00:20:44,744 And so with the capture operation now approved, 444 00:20:44,787 --> 00:20:46,093 the plan is put into motion. 445 00:20:48,182 --> 00:20:50,445 As arranged, the source meets Khattala, 446 00:20:50,488 --> 00:20:53,013 and they drive towards the seaside villa, 447 00:20:53,056 --> 00:20:54,492 about a 20 or 30-minute ride. 448 00:20:54,536 --> 00:20:56,016 - Nice. - It's nighttime. 449 00:20:56,059 --> 00:20:58,670 As they arrive, the source gets out of the vehicle, 450 00:20:58,714 --> 00:21:01,804 starts leading Khattala into the house, 451 00:21:01,848 --> 00:21:05,155 where US Special Operations Forces were inside and waiting. 452 00:21:05,199 --> 00:21:07,288 As Khattala entered into the home, 453 00:21:07,331 --> 00:21:09,812 he was engaged by our operators. 454 00:21:09,856 --> 00:21:12,423 Khattala was armed, and he was a big guy. 455 00:21:12,467 --> 00:21:14,164 And he fought back violently. 456 00:21:14,208 --> 00:21:16,819 But in short order, the operators were able 457 00:21:16,863 --> 00:21:19,691 to disarm him and get him under control. 458 00:21:19,735 --> 00:21:21,650 And that's when they effected the capture. 459 00:21:25,219 --> 00:21:28,657 On that night, US Special Operations Forces 460 00:21:28,700 --> 00:21:30,528 went fishing, 461 00:21:30,572 --> 00:21:31,791 and they caught a big fish. 462 00:21:34,358 --> 00:21:38,841 Eventually, the team moves towards the sea, 463 00:21:38,885 --> 00:21:41,322 where they get on a boat, and then they take a ride 464 00:21:41,365 --> 00:21:43,367 and connect with the USS New York out at sea. 465 00:21:46,196 --> 00:21:49,112 But the ship now is making its way back to the US. 466 00:21:49,156 --> 00:21:52,637 And while on the ship, they're conducting interviews. 467 00:21:52,681 --> 00:21:54,857 The first set of investigators have a different, 468 00:21:54,901 --> 00:21:56,511 more urgent mission. 469 00:21:56,554 --> 00:21:58,208 They're trying to figure out whether Khattala's 470 00:21:58,252 --> 00:22:02,125 involved with or knows of another imminent attack. 471 00:22:02,169 --> 00:22:05,520 When that kind of settles down, then the investigative team, 472 00:22:05,563 --> 00:22:07,783 who had been pursuing this relentlessly, 473 00:22:07,827 --> 00:22:09,480 they were next up on deck. 474 00:22:09,524 --> 00:22:11,395 And they began their interview process. 475 00:22:11,439 --> 00:22:12,832 But their objective, 476 00:22:12,875 --> 00:22:14,442 as you know, is totally different. 477 00:22:14,485 --> 00:22:17,097 They're trying to conduct an interview in such a way that-- 478 00:22:17,140 --> 00:22:18,750 - For the criminal prosecution. - For the criminal prosecution. 479 00:22:18,794 --> 00:22:19,795 - Yeah, sure, of course. - That's right. 480 00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:21,405 I'm at an off-site facility 481 00:22:21,449 --> 00:22:23,625 knowing that the operation is gonna go down. 482 00:22:23,668 --> 00:22:26,889 And they stayed focused and dedicated to their mission... 483 00:22:26,933 --> 00:22:28,064 - Sure. - Which is to develop 484 00:22:28,108 --> 00:22:30,545 the case and bring Khattala to justice. 485 00:22:33,156 --> 00:22:34,636 But why that day? 486 00:22:36,203 --> 00:22:37,465 And why this facility? 487 00:22:39,771 --> 00:22:41,686 During the course of the investigation, 488 00:22:41,730 --> 00:22:44,254 we determined that he believed 489 00:22:44,298 --> 00:22:46,866 that the special mission was an actual spy base. 490 00:22:48,476 --> 00:22:51,087 And so wanting to rid his city... 491 00:22:51,131 --> 00:22:53,176 - Of a spy base. - Of this American spy base, 492 00:22:53,220 --> 00:22:55,787 that-- Was his motive. 493 00:22:55,831 --> 00:22:57,485 His other motive was to kill Americans. 494 00:22:57,528 --> 00:22:59,400 And in fact, he said, if he could 495 00:22:59,443 --> 00:23:01,837 have killed more Americans, he would have. 496 00:23:32,694 --> 00:23:35,305 Well, Ari, my hat's off to you guys and the team. 497 00:23:35,349 --> 00:23:36,524 - Thank you. - A year and a half, 498 00:23:36,567 --> 00:23:39,396 I mean, the guy is finally captured alive 499 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:40,832 so he can face prosecution. 500 00:23:40,876 --> 00:23:44,532 It's a tremendous feeling of satisfaction. 501 00:23:44,575 --> 00:23:47,274 All the hard work, not only for me personally, 502 00:23:47,317 --> 00:23:49,841 but a tremendous relief for those who survived 503 00:23:49,885 --> 00:23:50,755 and for the families. And the families. 504 00:23:50,799 --> 00:23:52,192 And this investigation, 505 00:23:52,235 --> 00:23:55,978 it doesn't end with the capture of Abu Khattala. 506 00:23:56,022 --> 00:23:58,546 It continues on for those who are responsible 507 00:23:58,589 --> 00:23:59,721 for the deaths of the Americans. 39584

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