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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,263 --> 00:00:03,177 Hey, everybody get off the street. 2 00:00:03,220 --> 00:00:04,787 - Off the street! - Let's go! 3 00:00:04,830 --> 00:00:06,571 Get off the street! 4 00:00:06,615 --> 00:00:08,747 It's the middle of the goddamn night. 5 00:00:08,791 --> 00:00:10,401 We don't have him. 6 00:00:10,445 --> 00:00:12,795 We're finding bombs in public transit places. 7 00:00:14,927 --> 00:00:16,712 He knew how to make a pressure cooker bomb 8 00:00:16,755 --> 00:00:18,714 with a certain explosive mix. 9 00:00:18,757 --> 00:00:20,933 He knew how to make another pressure cooker bomb 10 00:00:20,977 --> 00:00:22,370 with a different explosive mix. 11 00:00:26,417 --> 00:00:28,376 And in all likelihood, you have a bomb factory 12 00:00:28,419 --> 00:00:31,074 in a residential neighborhood in New Jersey. 13 00:00:32,771 --> 00:00:34,469 Now he's got pipe bombs. 14 00:00:34,512 --> 00:00:36,601 The guy definitely was, like, a homegrown 15 00:00:36,645 --> 00:00:38,212 violent extremist, right? He was. 16 00:00:38,255 --> 00:00:40,040 No know knew it. He wasn't on the radar. 17 00:00:40,083 --> 00:00:42,303 Massive manhunt right now is underway 18 00:00:42,346 --> 00:00:45,523 for 28-year-old Ahmad Khan Rahimi. 19 00:00:45,567 --> 00:00:48,091 And we have a rush hour coming Tuesday morning 20 00:00:48,135 --> 00:00:51,225 where 5.6 million people are 21 00:00:51,268 --> 00:00:53,966 going to crowd into the subway trains of New York, 22 00:00:54,010 --> 00:00:57,057 a million more into the New Jersey Transit system, 23 00:00:57,100 --> 00:01:00,234 and we have, literally, a mad bomber on the loose. 24 00:01:19,427 --> 00:01:20,819 Holy shit. 25 00:01:25,128 --> 00:01:28,349 In the FBI, we make a lot of headlines. 26 00:01:31,395 --> 00:01:32,918 Drug busts, 27 00:01:32,962 --> 00:01:35,747 mob stings, 28 00:01:35,791 --> 00:01:37,488 terrorist takedowns. 29 00:01:37,532 --> 00:01:39,577 Get down! Get down! 30 00:01:39,621 --> 00:01:42,058 We understand why people want to tell stories about us. 31 00:01:42,102 --> 00:01:43,103 Mark it. 32 00:01:43,146 --> 00:01:44,539 - Freeze! - FBI. 33 00:01:44,582 --> 00:01:46,149 - FBI! - Action! 34 00:01:46,193 --> 00:01:48,238 But they don't know the half of it. 35 00:01:49,848 --> 00:01:51,981 What really goes down, 36 00:01:52,024 --> 00:01:54,157 we save that for each other 37 00:01:54,201 --> 00:01:56,377 when we're talking agent to agent. 38 00:01:59,336 --> 00:02:02,600 This is "FBI True." 39 00:02:11,740 --> 00:02:14,960 Cindy Coppola is a 23-year veteran of the FBI. 40 00:02:15,004 --> 00:02:17,572 She worked on cases that included organized crime 41 00:02:17,615 --> 00:02:19,095 and terrorism, 42 00:02:19,139 --> 00:02:21,619 and took part in multinational investigations 43 00:02:21,663 --> 00:02:23,795 into drug trafficking and money laundering. 44 00:02:23,839 --> 00:02:26,363 Coppola finished her career with the Los Angeles division, 45 00:02:26,407 --> 00:02:29,192 running two offices, supervising investigations 46 00:02:29,236 --> 00:02:31,020 and providing undercover security 47 00:02:31,063 --> 00:02:32,282 for special events. 48 00:02:32,326 --> 00:02:34,023 So refresh my memory. 49 00:02:34,066 --> 00:02:38,114 In 2016, that's when the Chelsea bombing happened, 50 00:02:38,158 --> 00:02:39,811 and that's when you guys ended up 51 00:02:39,855 --> 00:02:41,465 working together, correct? 52 00:02:44,381 --> 00:02:47,515 September 17, 2016. 53 00:02:47,558 --> 00:02:50,170 New York is on security lockdown. 54 00:02:50,213 --> 00:02:52,520 John Miller was the former assistant director 55 00:02:52,563 --> 00:02:55,175 of Public Affairs for the FBI. 56 00:02:55,218 --> 00:02:57,481 He was the Deputy Commissioner for Intelligence 57 00:02:57,525 --> 00:03:00,832 and Counterterrorism at the New York Police Department. 58 00:03:00,876 --> 00:03:03,835 United Nations General Assembly is there. 59 00:03:05,924 --> 00:03:10,364 The world leaders who represent literally 90% 60 00:03:10,407 --> 00:03:14,846 of the globe's population are in, like, what, 61 00:03:14,890 --> 00:03:18,589 10 square blocks of the East Side of Manhattan. 62 00:03:18,633 --> 00:03:21,070 Everything starts to go a little crazy. 63 00:03:23,681 --> 00:03:25,640 Breaking news out of Seaside Park 64 00:03:25,683 --> 00:03:27,598 where an explosion on the race course 65 00:03:27,642 --> 00:03:32,299 of the Semper Five 5K puts the entire area on lockdown. 66 00:03:32,342 --> 00:03:33,822 So I was at Clemson University, 67 00:03:33,865 --> 00:03:35,693 at a football game with my son-- 68 00:03:35,737 --> 00:03:36,955 he was a freshman at Clemson-- 69 00:03:36,999 --> 00:03:38,696 and my phone buzzed. 70 00:03:38,740 --> 00:03:40,829 Chuck Berger joined the New York Joint 71 00:03:40,872 --> 00:03:43,440 Terrorism Task Force in 1999. 72 00:03:43,484 --> 00:03:46,400 He spent 22 years working with the FBI's 73 00:03:46,443 --> 00:03:48,271 Counterterrorism Division. 74 00:03:48,315 --> 00:03:50,708 And I looked at the phone, and I get this update 75 00:03:50,752 --> 00:03:53,755 from the JTTF that a suspected IED had gone off 76 00:03:53,798 --> 00:03:55,278 in Seaside Heights in New Jersey, 77 00:03:55,322 --> 00:03:57,628 which is in Newark Field Office's territory. 78 00:03:57,672 --> 00:03:59,848 You're down there in Clemson. 79 00:03:59,891 --> 00:04:01,632 You're thinking, I hope I don't have to go back for this. 80 00:04:01,676 --> 00:04:02,894 - Exactly. - Right? 81 00:04:02,938 --> 00:04:04,287 Right. And then a couple minutes later 82 00:04:04,331 --> 00:04:05,767 or half an hour later, it came back, 83 00:04:05,810 --> 00:04:07,812 was confirmed that it was an actual device. 84 00:04:07,856 --> 00:04:10,685 So Newark FBI was investigating it. 85 00:04:10,728 --> 00:04:13,992 That's a symbolic target, military target, 86 00:04:14,036 --> 00:04:16,560 and civilian target because there's, 87 00:04:16,604 --> 00:04:18,127 you know, a couple of thousand people 88 00:04:18,170 --> 00:04:19,998 running in this race. 89 00:04:20,042 --> 00:04:21,739 If the bomb had gone off on time, 90 00:04:21,783 --> 00:04:23,393 there would have been casualties. 91 00:04:23,437 --> 00:04:26,744 Now we were looking at this as something serious. 92 00:04:26,788 --> 00:04:30,270 But it was 70 miles away, 93 00:04:30,313 --> 00:04:32,315 so we were monitoring it 94 00:04:32,359 --> 00:04:34,665 because you just don't know what happens next. 95 00:04:34,709 --> 00:04:36,319 Their bomb techs were on the scene, 96 00:04:36,363 --> 00:04:38,495 collecting the evidence, doing the forensics, 97 00:04:38,539 --> 00:04:40,323 and really, the next thing we knew-- 98 00:04:40,367 --> 00:04:41,759 it was about 8:30 at night, 99 00:04:41,803 --> 00:04:43,413 and one of my agents calls me. 100 00:04:43,457 --> 00:04:45,546 And he's like, a bomb just went off in New York. 101 00:04:51,595 --> 00:04:53,641 Hey, everybody, get off of the street! 102 00:04:53,684 --> 00:04:55,295 - Of the street! - Let's go! 103 00:04:55,338 --> 00:04:56,644 Get off the street! 104 00:05:02,998 --> 00:05:04,652 A device had been placed outside 105 00:05:04,695 --> 00:05:06,044 of a demolition dumpster 106 00:05:06,088 --> 00:05:08,525 and had launched this demolition dumpster 107 00:05:08,569 --> 00:05:10,440 all the way across 23rd Street, 108 00:05:10,484 --> 00:05:14,792 about 125 feet downrange across two-way traffic 109 00:05:14,836 --> 00:05:16,577 and into the sidewalk on the other side. 110 00:05:16,620 --> 00:05:19,014 - Did people get hurt? - A number of people were hurt. 111 00:05:19,057 --> 00:05:21,146 Come with me. Come with me. 112 00:05:21,190 --> 00:05:22,365 Come with me. 113 00:05:22,409 --> 00:05:24,149 I'm holding you, okay? Come with me. 114 00:05:24,193 --> 00:05:25,368 You're okay. 115 00:05:25,412 --> 00:05:26,761 Nothing's going to happen. 116 00:05:26,804 --> 00:05:27,849 Okay? 117 00:05:35,857 --> 00:05:38,033 About half an hour later, a lady comes out 118 00:05:38,076 --> 00:05:40,383 of her building on 27th Street, 119 00:05:40,427 --> 00:05:41,993 sees something suspicious in the garbage. 120 00:05:58,183 --> 00:06:01,186 I was at the scene on 23rd Street. 121 00:06:01,230 --> 00:06:03,145 And my sergeant called, and he said, 122 00:06:03,188 --> 00:06:05,843 hey, we have a suspicious package up on 27th Street. 123 00:06:05,887 --> 00:06:10,239 And I said, Andy, a bomb just went off in Manhattan. 124 00:06:10,282 --> 00:06:12,720 Everything is gonna be a suspicious package. 125 00:06:12,763 --> 00:06:14,243 And he said, Boss, 126 00:06:14,286 --> 00:06:15,940 I'm looking at a pressure cooker 127 00:06:15,984 --> 00:06:18,029 with a cell phone taped to the top of it, 128 00:06:18,073 --> 00:06:20,597 and, like, a red light flashing and wires going inside. 129 00:06:20,641 --> 00:06:22,077 Holy shit. There's another one. 130 00:06:23,774 --> 00:06:25,820 Now we're sitting on a third device. 131 00:06:25,863 --> 00:06:29,606 We had this beautiful thing here. 132 00:06:29,650 --> 00:06:34,263 It's a ticking bomb, but it's intact. 133 00:06:34,306 --> 00:06:38,441 That is a potential bottomless pit of evidence, 134 00:06:38,485 --> 00:06:40,138 forensics, you know. 135 00:06:40,182 --> 00:06:41,444 Yeah, for fingerprints or anything. 136 00:06:41,488 --> 00:06:42,576 - For everything. - Everything. 137 00:06:42,619 --> 00:06:43,751 We want to know what's inside it. 138 00:06:43,794 --> 00:06:45,013 - Yeah. - Who touched it. 139 00:06:45,056 --> 00:06:46,928 Who had a hair fall off their head 140 00:06:46,971 --> 00:06:49,278 while they were closing it that could, you know, 141 00:06:49,321 --> 00:06:50,714 could get us the DNA. 142 00:06:50,758 --> 00:06:52,890 I mean, we wanted to know everything 143 00:06:52,934 --> 00:06:54,544 that device could tell us. 144 00:06:54,588 --> 00:06:57,895 We also had to get inside it, and this was-- 145 00:06:57,939 --> 00:07:01,377 this was a very diabolical bomb-maker, 146 00:07:01,421 --> 00:07:05,250 because it had been epoxied shut with this cement. 147 00:07:05,294 --> 00:07:07,383 It means that the bomb maker was saying, 148 00:07:07,427 --> 00:07:10,473 I want so much pressure that the top isn't gonna pop off, 149 00:07:10,517 --> 00:07:12,344 that the pressure cooker itself-- 150 00:07:12,388 --> 00:07:14,434 the pot is gonna break into a million pieces, 151 00:07:14,477 --> 00:07:17,437 and my shrapnel is gonna fly at, you know, 152 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,397 15,000 feet per second and kill anyone nearby. 153 00:07:21,441 --> 00:07:23,660 But somebody had worked hard to make this deadly. 154 00:07:23,704 --> 00:07:25,662 There's opportunity there. 155 00:07:25,706 --> 00:07:27,577 It's also a little bit dangerous. 156 00:07:27,621 --> 00:07:29,144 Because they'd use the robot? 157 00:07:34,497 --> 00:07:36,760 The bomb squad is operating the robot. 158 00:07:36,804 --> 00:07:40,460 The FBI agents and the detectives are saying, 159 00:07:40,503 --> 00:07:42,331 get us the phone. 160 00:07:45,769 --> 00:07:50,731 So the robot's claw cuts the wires on the phone, 161 00:07:50,774 --> 00:07:54,517 picks up the phone, turns around, 162 00:07:54,561 --> 00:07:56,954 and rolls slowly down the street, 163 00:07:56,998 --> 00:07:59,000 west on 27th Street. 164 00:07:59,043 --> 00:08:00,436 And at the end of the street, 165 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,003 half a block from where the bomb is, 166 00:08:02,046 --> 00:08:04,222 There's a bomb squad detective with a bag, 167 00:08:04,266 --> 00:08:07,182 and the robot comes up with its claw, 168 00:08:07,225 --> 00:08:08,879 opens the claw. 169 00:08:08,923 --> 00:08:11,360 The phone drops into the bag. 170 00:08:11,403 --> 00:08:15,669 So that phone is rushed, like, right then and there. 171 00:08:15,712 --> 00:08:18,541 This phone and evidence from the post-blast scene 172 00:08:18,585 --> 00:08:20,195 on 23rd Street-- 173 00:08:20,238 --> 00:08:22,110 everything's going to Quantico. 174 00:08:22,153 --> 00:08:24,504 One lab, one team, one set of evidence, 175 00:08:24,547 --> 00:08:27,202 one chain of custody for that evidence. 176 00:08:32,337 --> 00:08:34,426 They called the whole explosive section 177 00:08:34,470 --> 00:08:37,473 of the lab in and said, stand by. 178 00:08:37,517 --> 00:08:39,954 Evidence is going to be coming in in dribs and drabs, 179 00:08:39,997 --> 00:08:41,869 'cause we got one post blast, 180 00:08:41,912 --> 00:08:44,306 and we got one hot, live device here. 181 00:08:44,349 --> 00:08:46,917 So we didn't know if we had one person-- 182 00:08:46,961 --> 00:08:48,615 - Or several. - Putting down bombs 183 00:08:48,658 --> 00:08:50,791 or several people putting down several bombs. 184 00:08:50,834 --> 00:08:54,185 How did you end up linking the subject to that house? 185 00:08:54,229 --> 00:08:56,448 The Jersey phone and the other phone are burners. 186 00:08:56,492 --> 00:08:59,234 And we eventually find out it came from a Dollar Store, 187 00:08:59,277 --> 00:09:01,541 and it was a set of five, I think. 188 00:09:01,584 --> 00:09:02,890 So what do you do then? 189 00:09:02,933 --> 00:09:04,631 We have a house under surveillance 190 00:09:04,674 --> 00:09:06,371 that's above a chicken store. 191 00:09:06,415 --> 00:09:08,330 And that, when one of the phones was activated, 192 00:09:08,373 --> 00:09:10,071 it was activated from that house. 193 00:09:10,114 --> 00:09:11,594 So it was activated at that address, 194 00:09:11,638 --> 00:09:12,813 but there's a bunch of people there, right? 195 00:09:12,856 --> 00:09:14,205 - Yes. - So you have no clue 196 00:09:14,249 --> 00:09:16,207 who's gonna be the bad guy. 197 00:09:16,251 --> 00:09:17,905 So at this point we're looking at the house 198 00:09:17,948 --> 00:09:21,082 and who's there, and there's a number of people, 199 00:09:21,125 --> 00:09:24,651 siblings, parents, and cousins, and husbands. 200 00:09:30,482 --> 00:09:31,832 And this has taken a tremendous amount of work. 201 00:09:31,875 --> 00:09:34,356 This wasn't just the JTTF, right? 202 00:09:34,399 --> 00:09:37,315 We pulled in scores of agents from outside the JTTF, 203 00:09:37,359 --> 00:09:39,753 detectives from all over the NYPD 204 00:09:39,796 --> 00:09:42,669 and just going block to block, giving them an assignment, 205 00:09:42,712 --> 00:09:45,976 pulling video, seeing who walked where, and going back. 206 00:09:46,020 --> 00:09:47,717 It's a very manual process. 207 00:09:47,761 --> 00:09:50,894 We were doing an extensive video canvas, saying, 208 00:09:50,938 --> 00:09:53,331 let's go up and down all of these streets 209 00:09:53,375 --> 00:09:57,335 and try and figure out how did these things get here. 210 00:09:57,379 --> 00:09:59,599 And on 27th Street we get a couple of breaks. 211 00:10:02,645 --> 00:10:04,821 We're able to pull video, and we could see 212 00:10:04,865 --> 00:10:07,041 a male pulling two rolling bags. 213 00:10:07,084 --> 00:10:08,782 He's wearing a backpack and a fanny pack. 214 00:10:08,825 --> 00:10:10,261 Walks in. Just walking. 215 00:10:10,305 --> 00:10:11,175 He's walking down the street, and he-- 216 00:10:11,219 --> 00:10:13,003 - No car. - Nope. 217 00:10:13,047 --> 00:10:15,179 He walks down the street, and he places the rolling bag 218 00:10:15,223 --> 00:10:18,008 next to the dumpster and walks away. 219 00:10:18,052 --> 00:10:22,404 Two gentlemen walked down the street, well-dressed. 220 00:10:22,447 --> 00:10:26,147 One of them spots the rolling bag in the garbage, 221 00:10:26,190 --> 00:10:29,672 pauses, picks it up, 222 00:10:29,716 --> 00:10:32,762 unzips it, takes out the bomb, 223 00:10:32,806 --> 00:10:34,329 and looks at it. Are you kidding me? 224 00:10:34,372 --> 00:10:36,461 I kid you not. 225 00:10:36,505 --> 00:10:38,159 Who are these two guys? 226 00:10:38,202 --> 00:10:40,596 And we're thinking, the bomb didn't function, 227 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,467 so they sent the second team, like, 228 00:10:42,511 --> 00:10:46,210 to flip the arming switch, to adjust the timer, 229 00:10:46,254 --> 00:10:49,170 to see what was wrong, which, in and of itself, 230 00:10:49,213 --> 00:10:50,824 is not a desirable job. 231 00:10:50,867 --> 00:10:52,869 Gee, the bomb didn't quite go off. 232 00:10:52,913 --> 00:10:54,610 Go play with it. Yeah. 233 00:10:54,654 --> 00:10:56,220 I wouldn't want that job. 234 00:10:56,264 --> 00:10:58,048 And they take the bomb, and like John described, 235 00:10:58,092 --> 00:10:59,702 it looks like a bomb 236 00:10:59,746 --> 00:11:01,225 from, like, the Road Runner cartoon, right? 237 00:11:01,269 --> 00:11:02,705 It looks like a bomb. 238 00:11:02,749 --> 00:11:04,098 There's a pressure cooker with a telephone 239 00:11:04,141 --> 00:11:05,534 attached to the top of it. 240 00:11:05,577 --> 00:11:07,318 He puts that down. He picks up the bag. 241 00:11:07,362 --> 00:11:10,147 He holds it up, like "look what I got." 242 00:11:10,191 --> 00:11:12,672 It's a Louis Vuitton roller bag. 243 00:11:12,715 --> 00:11:15,936 And then they keep going down the street, talking like-- 244 00:11:15,979 --> 00:11:17,677 - Nothing happened. - Like nothing happened. 245 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,374 It wasn't really-- it was a knockoff, counterfeit. 246 00:11:19,417 --> 00:11:20,680 But-- Knockoff. 247 00:11:20,723 --> 00:11:21,724 I was going to say, it's probably a knockoff. 248 00:11:21,768 --> 00:11:23,073 It's New York, yeah. 249 00:11:23,117 --> 00:11:24,771 But that becomes part of the debate, which is, 250 00:11:24,814 --> 00:11:26,990 we had a room full of agents and detectives, 251 00:11:27,034 --> 00:11:28,688 and the room splits down the middle, 252 00:11:28,731 --> 00:11:30,994 where half the room is saying, 253 00:11:31,038 --> 00:11:33,605 that's a guy who-- that guy's to arm the device. 254 00:11:33,649 --> 00:11:35,782 And other people are like, this is New York. 255 00:11:35,825 --> 00:11:38,349 It's garbage day. He's garbage-picking. 256 00:11:38,393 --> 00:11:42,745 But now we're pulling video and trying to backtrack 257 00:11:42,789 --> 00:11:44,660 to figure out, you know, 258 00:11:44,704 --> 00:11:45,922 where did these two gentlemen come from? 259 00:11:45,966 --> 00:11:46,923 Where did they go? 260 00:11:46,967 --> 00:11:48,403 Where did our bomber come from? 261 00:11:48,446 --> 00:11:49,883 Where did they go? 262 00:11:49,926 --> 00:11:55,149 So when you guys saw the video of the guy bringing 263 00:11:55,192 --> 00:11:57,804 the roller bag and you potentially had that house, 264 00:11:57,847 --> 00:11:59,719 you know, in New Jersey with the family, 265 00:11:59,762 --> 00:12:02,156 did you ever show that video to the family 266 00:12:02,199 --> 00:12:04,724 to identify if that's a family member? 267 00:12:04,767 --> 00:12:05,986 So we looked at the family members 268 00:12:06,029 --> 00:12:07,639 that we knew who were in the house 269 00:12:07,683 --> 00:12:11,382 and compared their photos to the video. 270 00:12:11,426 --> 00:12:12,732 - And you had two brothers. - Okay. 271 00:12:12,775 --> 00:12:14,211 Two brothers, okay. 272 00:12:14,255 --> 00:12:15,822 So you had Ahmad, and you had his brother. 273 00:12:15,865 --> 00:12:20,565 And as we got more and more video of him 274 00:12:20,609 --> 00:12:23,655 in different places and clearer shots of the face-- 275 00:12:23,699 --> 00:12:25,135 and now you're looking at the two. 276 00:12:25,179 --> 00:12:27,224 You're like, is it this brother or that brother? 277 00:12:27,268 --> 00:12:29,966 You're like, no, it's that brother. 278 00:12:30,010 --> 00:12:32,360 And it appeared to be Ahmad. 279 00:12:35,624 --> 00:12:37,278 We know somebody bought 280 00:12:37,321 --> 00:12:39,802 five burner phones in a store. 281 00:12:39,846 --> 00:12:42,065 We know we've got three phones attached 282 00:12:42,109 --> 00:12:46,026 to bombs that have already gone off or been rendered safe. 283 00:12:46,069 --> 00:12:47,984 It means there's a couple of more phones out there, 284 00:12:48,028 --> 00:12:51,205 which suggests there could be more bombs out there. 285 00:12:51,248 --> 00:12:53,381 And in all likelihood, you have a bomb factory 286 00:12:53,424 --> 00:12:55,470 in a residential neighborhood in New Jersey. 287 00:12:55,513 --> 00:12:57,428 Well, you're not just gonna go knock on the door 288 00:12:57,472 --> 00:12:58,908 and say, where's Ahmad. 289 00:12:58,952 --> 00:13:00,997 I remember hearing that the suspected bomber 290 00:13:01,041 --> 00:13:03,304 tested a bomb at the house or some-- 291 00:13:03,347 --> 00:13:04,871 or somewhere in New Jersey. 292 00:13:04,914 --> 00:13:08,004 He was blowing stuff up in the backyard to figure out, 293 00:13:08,048 --> 00:13:10,615 like, is this bomb design functional? 294 00:13:10,659 --> 00:13:12,008 Sure. 295 00:13:12,052 --> 00:13:14,228 Is my mixture going to high order 296 00:13:14,271 --> 00:13:16,360 when it's time to blow up. 297 00:13:20,321 --> 00:13:22,758 But we don't find that till later. 298 00:13:22,802 --> 00:13:25,195 We think we know who the bomber is. 299 00:13:25,239 --> 00:13:27,023 We have a house under surveillance 300 00:13:27,067 --> 00:13:28,764 that's above a chicken store, 301 00:13:28,808 --> 00:13:32,333 you know, in a Jersey town 302 00:13:32,376 --> 00:13:35,945 and a whole bunch of people come out. 303 00:13:35,989 --> 00:13:39,166 The surveillance team is saying, we got a male out, 304 00:13:39,209 --> 00:13:42,473 we've got a female out, we've got another male out, 305 00:13:42,517 --> 00:13:44,345 groups getting into the car. 306 00:13:44,388 --> 00:13:47,870 I'm sitting there saying, okay, now what are we going to do? 307 00:13:47,914 --> 00:13:49,829 One of them looks like our guy. 308 00:13:49,872 --> 00:13:51,482 Confirmed it's our guy? 309 00:13:51,526 --> 00:13:53,528 Not confirmed it's our guy, looks like our guy. 310 00:13:53,571 --> 00:13:55,051 Car is on the move. 311 00:13:55,095 --> 00:13:57,097 We got a very good surveillance team. 312 00:13:57,140 --> 00:13:59,751 We've got elements of SWAT behind them, 313 00:13:59,795 --> 00:14:03,233 and then they get on the highway, 314 00:14:03,277 --> 00:14:04,800 heading to New York City. 315 00:14:04,844 --> 00:14:06,236 And now it's really decision time. 316 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:07,759 Here's the problem. 317 00:14:07,803 --> 00:14:10,806 I mean, these are people from New Jersey. 318 00:14:10,850 --> 00:14:11,981 If they go south, they're probably 319 00:14:12,025 --> 00:14:14,114 going to Kennedy Airport. 320 00:14:14,157 --> 00:14:15,245 If they go north, they're probably 321 00:14:15,289 --> 00:14:16,856 coming into Manhattan. 322 00:14:16,899 --> 00:14:18,858 Neither one of those is a good option for us, 323 00:14:18,901 --> 00:14:20,468 so we've got to do this stop. 324 00:14:20,511 --> 00:14:21,556 Right. 325 00:14:21,599 --> 00:14:22,905 So what happened next? 326 00:14:22,949 --> 00:14:25,038 Surveillance team drops back, 327 00:14:25,081 --> 00:14:29,216 SWAT ops, operatives, close in. 328 00:14:29,259 --> 00:14:30,913 They block the car off. 329 00:14:30,957 --> 00:14:32,523 There's broken glass. 330 00:14:32,567 --> 00:14:35,700 There's flash-bangs, people pulled out of the cars. 331 00:14:35,744 --> 00:14:38,094 The entire Belt Parkway is now jammed with traffic 332 00:14:38,138 --> 00:14:39,791 because there's these cars 333 00:14:39,835 --> 00:14:41,750 and people being yanked out and put on the ground 334 00:14:41,793 --> 00:14:43,143 and hands up. 335 00:14:43,186 --> 00:14:44,971 And everybody's got their cell phones, 336 00:14:45,014 --> 00:14:46,146 and they're filming this. 337 00:14:46,189 --> 00:14:47,364 And it's going to Twitter. 338 00:14:47,408 --> 00:14:48,931 It's going to YouTube. 339 00:14:48,975 --> 00:14:50,628 And Ahmad's not there. 340 00:14:55,024 --> 00:14:56,634 We don't have our felony subject. 341 00:14:56,678 --> 00:14:58,680 We have a bunch of family members. 342 00:14:58,723 --> 00:15:03,380 And now, in the train station in Elizabeth, New Jersey, 343 00:15:03,424 --> 00:15:05,948 two homeless guys find a backpack. 344 00:15:05,992 --> 00:15:08,516 One of them happens to be looking for a backpack. 345 00:15:08,559 --> 00:15:10,605 He wants it for a job interview. 346 00:15:10,648 --> 00:15:13,477 So these two guys go be-boppin' down the street 347 00:15:13,521 --> 00:15:15,697 till they open the backpack, and there's pipes 348 00:15:15,740 --> 00:15:18,482 and there's wires and there's cell phones. 349 00:15:18,526 --> 00:15:21,137 And now we have another ticking bomb. 350 00:15:24,445 --> 00:15:26,186 That's one of the other phones. 351 00:15:26,229 --> 00:15:28,057 So there's a number of different devices 352 00:15:28,101 --> 00:15:29,711 of different designs, which is interesting. 353 00:15:29,754 --> 00:15:31,669 So these devices are not pressure cookers 354 00:15:31,713 --> 00:15:32,975 with phones on them. 355 00:15:33,019 --> 00:15:35,499 They're pipe bombs with fuses. Okay. 356 00:15:35,543 --> 00:15:37,893 We're not liking this guy because he knew 357 00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:39,286 how to make a pressure cooker bomb 358 00:15:39,329 --> 00:15:41,723 with a certain explosive mix. 359 00:15:41,766 --> 00:15:43,943 He knew how to make another pressure cooker bomb 360 00:15:43,986 --> 00:15:46,162 with a different explosive mix. 361 00:15:46,206 --> 00:15:47,903 Now he's got pipe bombs. 362 00:15:47,947 --> 00:15:50,253 They bring out the FBI robot. 363 00:15:50,297 --> 00:15:53,300 And again, they pull open the bag. 364 00:15:53,343 --> 00:15:54,954 The devices were so unstable-- 365 00:15:58,609 --> 00:16:01,482 They detonate, and it destroys the robot. 366 00:16:01,525 --> 00:16:03,701 - Oh, wow. - The entire robot-- 367 00:16:03,745 --> 00:16:05,312 they blew up-- it blew up the robot, 368 00:16:05,355 --> 00:16:06,791 killed the robot. 369 00:16:10,926 --> 00:16:12,710 He got a full robotic funeral, though. 370 00:16:14,364 --> 00:16:18,107 So it's not just a guy who went on the internet 371 00:16:18,151 --> 00:16:20,501 and figured out how to make a bomb. 372 00:16:20,544 --> 00:16:22,329 This seems to be a skilled bomb maker 373 00:16:22,372 --> 00:16:23,983 who knows how to make a number 374 00:16:24,026 --> 00:16:25,549 of different kinds of devices. 375 00:16:25,593 --> 00:16:27,899 It's the middle of the goddamn night. 376 00:16:27,943 --> 00:16:29,466 We don't have him. 377 00:16:29,510 --> 00:16:32,469 We're finding bombs in public transit places, 378 00:16:32,513 --> 00:16:35,255 and we have a rush hour coming Tuesday morning 379 00:16:35,298 --> 00:16:38,910 where 5.6 million people are going to crowd 380 00:16:38,954 --> 00:16:41,304 into the subway trains of New York, 381 00:16:41,348 --> 00:16:44,133 a million more into the New Jersey Transit system, 382 00:16:44,177 --> 00:16:47,136 and we have, literally, a mad bomber on the loose. 383 00:16:47,180 --> 00:16:49,051 So we don't have him in-pocket. 384 00:16:49,095 --> 00:16:52,141 Now the presumption is he knows that we know, 385 00:16:52,185 --> 00:16:54,274 and so where are we doubling our efforts, 386 00:16:54,317 --> 00:16:55,927 trying to find Ahmad? 387 00:16:55,971 --> 00:16:57,233 So this is truly a manhunt. 388 00:17:06,721 --> 00:17:10,333 Meanwhile, at police headquarters, 389 00:17:10,377 --> 00:17:13,336 we're swearing in the new commissioner. 390 00:17:13,380 --> 00:17:17,340 His first day started at midnight the night before, 391 00:17:17,384 --> 00:17:20,474 and he's saying, we've been all this time 392 00:17:20,517 --> 00:17:23,433 without a terrorist attack in New York City, since 9/11, 393 00:17:23,477 --> 00:17:25,740 and on my first day we have one 394 00:17:25,783 --> 00:17:27,394 and now a mad bomber on the loose. 395 00:17:27,437 --> 00:17:29,787 He said, I need this guy to be caught 396 00:17:29,831 --> 00:17:31,093 before I'm sworn in, 397 00:17:31,137 --> 00:17:33,095 and I said, we're on it. 398 00:17:33,139 --> 00:17:36,142 And It's 5:00 in the morning. 399 00:17:36,185 --> 00:17:39,710 We've got a couple of thousand law enforcement people 400 00:17:39,754 --> 00:17:42,452 who know this guy's identity and are looking for him 401 00:17:42,496 --> 00:17:45,368 along with the FBI, the NYPD, 402 00:17:45,412 --> 00:17:49,111 the JTTF, the NSA, the CIA. 403 00:17:49,155 --> 00:17:51,244 I mean, there's no part of the intelligence community 404 00:17:51,287 --> 00:17:53,507 that isn't pulling threads on, where did this guy travel? 405 00:17:53,550 --> 00:17:55,639 Who does he know? Who does he call? 406 00:17:55,683 --> 00:17:57,380 All those wheels are turning. 407 00:17:57,424 --> 00:17:59,208 But at this point, we're sitting in the JOC, 408 00:17:59,252 --> 00:18:03,299 talking about, okay, so how do we get this 409 00:18:03,343 --> 00:18:06,389 to everybody who's not sitting in front of a television 410 00:18:06,433 --> 00:18:09,000 or listening to the radio in their car? 411 00:18:09,044 --> 00:18:11,742 And somebody says, you know that thing where 412 00:18:11,786 --> 00:18:14,310 all the phones go off and they make that terrible noise 413 00:18:14,354 --> 00:18:15,964 and they say, like, a storm is coming 414 00:18:16,007 --> 00:18:17,705 and here's the evacuation route? 415 00:18:17,748 --> 00:18:19,010 That's FEMA. 416 00:18:19,054 --> 00:18:20,621 It's like, who's FEMA? 417 00:18:20,664 --> 00:18:22,013 Federal Emergency Management. 418 00:18:22,057 --> 00:18:23,885 That's Homeland Security. Homeland Security. 419 00:18:23,928 --> 00:18:25,365 We got Homeland Security there. 420 00:18:25,408 --> 00:18:27,497 Get FEMA on the phone. 421 00:18:27,541 --> 00:18:29,717 And we're talking to the FEMA guy, and we're saying, 422 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,153 we need to put this out. 423 00:18:31,197 --> 00:18:32,502 He said, that's not a weather alert. 424 00:18:32,546 --> 00:18:34,504 That's like a "wanted" thing, you know. 425 00:18:34,548 --> 00:18:37,116 Like, I know, but you guys have that button 426 00:18:37,159 --> 00:18:38,813 where you can make it to 50 miles 427 00:18:38,856 --> 00:18:40,380 or 100 miles or 150-- 428 00:18:40,423 --> 00:18:43,470 we need that entire Metropolitan area donut. 429 00:18:43,513 --> 00:18:46,125 We're talking New York, New Jersey, you know, 430 00:18:46,168 --> 00:18:47,561 the entire Metropolitan area. 431 00:18:47,604 --> 00:18:49,258 We need that to go to every phone, 432 00:18:49,302 --> 00:18:51,608 and you can make that happen-- 433 00:18:51,652 --> 00:18:54,568 this guy's picture, this guy's name. 434 00:18:54,611 --> 00:18:56,700 Find this guy. 435 00:18:56,744 --> 00:19:00,356 And the guy says, I'm going to have to get authorization 436 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,053 because it's not weather. 437 00:19:02,097 --> 00:19:04,665 But we can't do a picture. 438 00:19:04,708 --> 00:19:06,145 Do you know what year it is? 439 00:19:06,188 --> 00:19:07,755 What do you mean you can't text out a picture? 440 00:19:07,798 --> 00:19:09,060 My kid's 12. 441 00:19:09,104 --> 00:19:10,497 He can text out a picture. 442 00:19:10,540 --> 00:19:13,064 And they said, sir, the system was designed 443 00:19:13,108 --> 00:19:15,502 with the carriers, and it carries 444 00:19:15,545 --> 00:19:18,548 a minimum amount of data, which is what they agreed to. 445 00:19:18,592 --> 00:19:21,725 And that doesn't write-- look, mister, 446 00:19:21,769 --> 00:19:23,771 we've never asked the general public, 447 00:19:23,814 --> 00:19:26,556 have you seen a storm that looks like this before? 448 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,123 So it wasn't an obvious call. 449 00:19:28,167 --> 00:19:29,864 You put somebody's face out 450 00:19:29,907 --> 00:19:32,171 and it's the wrong person, and that person either 451 00:19:32,214 --> 00:19:34,173 accelerates the violence, or maybe an act of violence 452 00:19:34,216 --> 00:19:37,176 is committed against him or somebody who looks like him. 453 00:19:37,219 --> 00:19:38,394 It was--it was a hard call. 454 00:19:38,438 --> 00:19:39,656 But it was the right call. 455 00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:41,484 Everybody's phone blows up. 456 00:19:41,528 --> 00:19:43,138 BOLO alert. 457 00:19:43,182 --> 00:19:46,402 And here's this thing-- find Ahmad Khan Rahimi. 458 00:19:46,446 --> 00:19:48,752 And I remember seeing cable news, 459 00:19:48,796 --> 00:19:51,059 and the hosts look down at their phones 460 00:19:51,102 --> 00:19:52,408 because their phones all started-- 461 00:19:52,452 --> 00:19:53,670 And they're all going off at-- 462 00:19:53,714 --> 00:19:54,889 - Right. - Outstanding. 463 00:19:54,932 --> 00:19:56,238 So it went off on live TV. 464 00:19:59,241 --> 00:20:01,112 It was about half an hour later. 465 00:20:01,156 --> 00:20:03,071 We get this call from Linden, New Jersey. 466 00:20:03,114 --> 00:20:05,552 And so a business owner 467 00:20:05,595 --> 00:20:07,075 owns a bowling alley kind of bar. 468 00:20:07,118 --> 00:20:09,120 There's a person sleeping on his-- 469 00:20:09,164 --> 00:20:10,209 by the front door. 470 00:20:10,252 --> 00:20:12,820 So he called 911. 471 00:20:34,972 --> 00:20:36,974 The police officer from Linden, New Jersey, pulls up. 472 00:20:37,018 --> 00:20:38,715 So this is Angel Padilla. 473 00:20:38,759 --> 00:20:40,891 He's an ex-Marine. 474 00:20:40,935 --> 00:20:42,937 He wakes up that morning. 475 00:20:42,980 --> 00:20:46,680 He sees the BOLO and gets his ballistic helmet 476 00:20:46,723 --> 00:20:49,509 and puts it in the car and his other vest. 477 00:20:49,552 --> 00:20:53,034 And he tapes the picture of this guy to the dashboard, 478 00:20:53,077 --> 00:20:56,255 and he gets the call of the homeless guy sleeping 479 00:20:56,298 --> 00:20:57,691 in the doorway. 480 00:21:36,860 --> 00:21:39,298 As you watch the body camera video, 481 00:21:39,341 --> 00:21:41,865 if there was a noise that went off 482 00:21:41,909 --> 00:21:44,912 like when your head clicks, 483 00:21:44,955 --> 00:21:46,870 holy shit, that's the guy-- Right. 484 00:21:46,914 --> 00:21:49,090 You could almost hear it 485 00:21:49,133 --> 00:21:53,007 because you see Angel's demeanor change slightly. 486 00:21:53,050 --> 00:21:54,965 He goes to his radio, and he says-- 487 00:22:00,493 --> 00:22:01,624 He calls another car. 488 00:22:01,668 --> 00:22:03,409 He says, are you out there? 489 00:22:03,452 --> 00:22:05,759 And nobody answers. 490 00:22:42,404 --> 00:22:44,406 Dispatch to 709. 491 00:23:09,083 --> 00:23:11,607 Angel Padilla's hit. 492 00:23:11,651 --> 00:23:14,001 Meanwhile, a couple of blocks away, 493 00:23:14,044 --> 00:23:15,437 there's a cop named Hammer, 494 00:23:15,481 --> 00:23:18,919 is coming down in the SUV, sees Rahimi. 495 00:23:18,962 --> 00:23:20,660 Rahimi shoots at him. 496 00:23:20,703 --> 00:23:22,444 The bullet goes through the window, 497 00:23:22,488 --> 00:23:25,186 hits his light package up at the top there, 498 00:23:25,229 --> 00:23:27,231 and ends up hitting him in the forehead. 499 00:23:27,275 --> 00:23:28,668 So he's been shot in the head. 500 00:23:28,711 --> 00:23:30,931 - Holy shit. Wow. - And he says, 501 00:23:30,974 --> 00:23:32,541 well, I don't have time to shoot at this guy, 502 00:23:32,585 --> 00:23:34,413 so he goes to run him over. 503 00:23:34,456 --> 00:23:38,417 And he just misses him, and Rahimi dodges the car 504 00:23:38,460 --> 00:23:40,201 and is still running and shooting 505 00:23:40,244 --> 00:23:42,377 as other officers are trying to set a perimeter 506 00:23:42,421 --> 00:23:44,553 around him, respond in. 507 00:23:44,597 --> 00:23:48,165 And there's a brand-new rookie, also an ex-Marine. 508 00:23:48,209 --> 00:23:49,558 Rahimi is firing at him 509 00:23:49,602 --> 00:23:50,733 from across the street. 510 00:23:50,777 --> 00:23:52,169 They're shooting at the car! 511 00:24:08,838 --> 00:24:10,666 He's shooting. 512 00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:12,581 As the rookie comes out with his gun, 513 00:24:12,625 --> 00:24:15,323 he remembers, oh, there's a rifle in this car, 514 00:24:15,366 --> 00:24:16,977 and I was a Marine. 515 00:24:17,020 --> 00:24:20,110 So he picks up the rifle, and he aims at Rahimi. 516 00:24:31,774 --> 00:24:33,907 And he fires the shots. 517 00:24:39,216 --> 00:24:40,957 And Rahimi is hit. 518 00:25:03,371 --> 00:25:05,025 Meanwhile, the new commissioner 519 00:25:05,068 --> 00:25:06,505 has taken the oath. 520 00:25:06,548 --> 00:25:08,507 We hand him an index card saying, 521 00:25:08,550 --> 00:25:11,945 "Suspect down, shot by cops in Linden, New Jersey, 522 00:25:11,988 --> 00:25:13,555 in custody." 523 00:25:13,599 --> 00:25:15,601 And he's like, okay, now I can get sworn in. 524 00:25:17,428 --> 00:25:19,082 Our Counterterrorism and Intelligence Bureaus 525 00:25:19,126 --> 00:25:20,562 are second to none. 526 00:25:20,606 --> 00:25:22,477 We saw this in action on Saturday night 527 00:25:22,521 --> 00:25:25,480 when our personnel responded quickly and decisively 528 00:25:25,524 --> 00:25:27,569 to that blast in Chelsea. 529 00:25:27,613 --> 00:25:29,789 There was a lot going on that day. 530 00:26:12,353 --> 00:26:16,226 Going back to the two guys that were on the street 531 00:26:16,270 --> 00:26:18,272 that came out at dinner-- 532 00:26:18,315 --> 00:26:19,752 did you guys ever identify them? 533 00:26:19,795 --> 00:26:20,796 They went to their room. 534 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,232 They turned on the news. 535 00:26:22,276 --> 00:26:24,191 They realized what they did 536 00:26:24,234 --> 00:26:25,845 and that they were in big trouble. 537 00:26:25,888 --> 00:26:27,977 So they went out the back of the hotel 538 00:26:28,021 --> 00:26:29,979 and threw it in a dumpster. 539 00:26:30,023 --> 00:26:31,633 So of course-- 540 00:26:31,677 --> 00:26:32,852 They didn't take the fake Louis Vuitton. 541 00:26:32,895 --> 00:26:34,505 They did not. 542 00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:35,681 - So, of course, they're like-- - And now we want the bag. 543 00:26:35,724 --> 00:26:36,812 - Yeah. - We want the bag. 544 00:26:36,856 --> 00:26:38,509 And so now we had agents and detectives 545 00:26:38,553 --> 00:26:41,295 tracking dumpsters to landfills, 546 00:26:41,338 --> 00:26:43,602 trying to recover the bag. 41292

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