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Hey, everybody
get off the street.
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- Off the street!
- Let's go!
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Get off the street!
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It's the middle
of the goddamn night.
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We don't have him.
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We're finding bombs
in public transit places.
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He knew how to make
a pressure cooker bomb
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with a certain explosive mix.
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He knew how to make
another pressure cooker bomb
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with a different
explosive mix.
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And in all likelihood,
you have a bomb factory
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in a residential neighborhood
in New Jersey.
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Now he's got pipe bombs.
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The guy definitely was,
like, a homegrown
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violent extremist, right?
He was.
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No know knew it.
He wasn't on the radar.
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Massive manhunt right now
is underway
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for 28-year-old
Ahmad Khan Rahimi.
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And we have a rush hour
coming Tuesday morning
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where 5.6 million people are
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going to crowd into
the subway trains of New York,
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a million more into
the New Jersey Transit system,
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and we have, literally,
a mad bomber on the loose.
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Holy shit.
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In the FBI, we make
a lot of headlines.
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Drug busts,
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mob stings,
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terrorist takedowns.
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Get down! Get down!
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We understand why people
want to tell stories about us.
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Mark it.
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- Freeze!
- FBI.
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- FBI!
- Action!
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But they don't know
the half of it.
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What really goes down,
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we save that for each other
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when we're talking
agent to agent.
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This is "FBI True."
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Cindy Coppola is
a 23-year veteran of the FBI.
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She worked on cases that
included organized crime
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and terrorism,
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and took part
in multinational investigations
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into drug trafficking
and money laundering.
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Coppola finished her career
with the Los Angeles division,
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running two offices,
supervising investigations
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and providing
undercover security
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for special events.
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So refresh my memory.
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In 2016, that's when
the Chelsea bombing happened,
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and that's when you guys
ended up
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working together, correct?
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September 17, 2016.
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New York is
on security lockdown.
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John Miller was
the former assistant director
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of Public Affairs for the FBI.
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He was the Deputy Commissioner
for Intelligence
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and Counterterrorism at the
New York Police Department.
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United Nations
General Assembly is there.
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The world leaders who
represent literally 90%
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of the globe's population
are in, like, what,
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10 square blocks
of the East Side of Manhattan.
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Everything starts
to go a little crazy.
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Breaking news out
of Seaside Park
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where an explosion
on the race course
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of the Semper Five 5K puts
the entire area on lockdown.
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So I was at
Clemson University,
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at a football game
with my son--
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he was a freshman at Clemson--
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and my phone buzzed.
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Chuck Berger joined
the New York Joint
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Terrorism Task Force in 1999.
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He spent 22 years working
with the FBI's
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Counterterrorism Division.
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And I looked at the phone,
and I get this update
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from the JTTF that a suspected
IED had gone off
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in Seaside Heights
in New Jersey,
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which is in Newark
Field Office's territory.
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You're down there in Clemson.
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You're thinking, I hope I
don't have to go back for this.
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- Exactly.
- Right?
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Right.
And then a couple minutes later
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or half an hour later,
it came back,
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was confirmed that
it was an actual device.
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So Newark FBI was
investigating it.
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That's a symbolic target,
military target,
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and civilian target
because there's,
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you know,
a couple of thousand people
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running in this race.
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If the bomb had
gone off on time,
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there would have
been casualties.
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Now we were looking at this
as something serious.
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But it was 70 miles away,
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so we were monitoring it
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because you just don't know
what happens next.
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Their bomb techs were
on the scene,
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collecting the evidence,
doing the forensics,
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and really,
the next thing we knew--
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it was about 8:30 at night,
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and one of my agents calls me.
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And he's like, a bomb
just went off in New York.
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Hey, everybody,
get off of the street!
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- Of the street!
- Let's go!
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Get off the street!
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A device had been
placed outside
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of a demolition dumpster
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and had launched
this demolition dumpster
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all the way
across 23rd Street,
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about 125 feet downrange
across two-way traffic
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and into the sidewalk
on the other side.
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- Did people get hurt?
- A number of people were hurt.
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Come with me.
Come with me.
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Come with me.
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I'm holding you, okay?
Come with me.
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You're okay.
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Nothing's going to happen.
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Okay?
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About half an hour later,
a lady comes out
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of her building
on 27th Street,
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sees something suspicious
in the garbage.
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I was at the scene
on 23rd Street.
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And my sergeant called,
and he said,
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hey, we have a suspicious
package up on 27th Street.
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And I said, Andy, a bomb
just went off in Manhattan.
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Everything is gonna be
a suspicious package.
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And he said, Boss,
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I'm looking
at a pressure cooker
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with a cell phone taped
to the top of it,
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and, like, a red light flashing
and wires going inside.
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Holy shit.
There's another one.
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Now we're sitting
on a third device.
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We had this
beautiful thing here.
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It's a ticking bomb,
but it's intact.
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That is a potential
bottomless pit of evidence,
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forensics, you know.
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Yeah, for fingerprints
or anything.
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- For everything.
- Everything.
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We want to know
what's inside it.
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- Yeah.
- Who touched it.
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Who had a hair fall
off their head
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while they were closing it that
could, you know,
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could get us the DNA.
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I mean, we wanted
to know everything
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that device could tell us.
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We also had to get inside it,
and this was--
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this was a very
diabolical bomb-maker,
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because it had been
epoxied shut with this cement.
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It means that the bomb maker
was saying,
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I want so much pressure that
the top isn't gonna pop off,
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that the pressure
cooker itself--
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the pot is gonna break
into a million pieces,
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and my shrapnel is gonna fly
at, you know,
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15,000 feet per second
and kill anyone nearby.
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But somebody had worked hard
to make this deadly.
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There's opportunity there.
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It's also
a little bit dangerous.
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Because they'd use the robot?
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The bomb squad
is operating the robot.
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The FBI agents
and the detectives are saying,
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get us the phone.
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So the robot's claw cuts
the wires on the phone,
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picks up the phone,
turns around,
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and rolls slowly
down the street,
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west on 27th Street.
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And at the end of the street,
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half a block
from where the bomb is,
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There's a bomb squad
detective with a bag,
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and the robot comes up
with its claw,
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opens the claw.
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The phone drops into the bag.
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So that phone is rushed,
like, right then and there.
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This phone and evidence
from the post-blast scene
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on 23rd Street--
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everything's going
to Quantico.
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One lab, one team,
one set of evidence,
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one chain of custody
for that evidence.
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They called
the whole explosive section
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of the lab in and said,
stand by.
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Evidence is going to be
coming in in dribs and drabs,
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'cause we got one post blast,
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and we got one hot,
live device here.
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So we didn't know
if we had one person--
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- Or several.
- Putting down bombs
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or several people putting down
several bombs.
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How did you end up linking
the subject to that house?
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The Jersey phone and
the other phone are burners.
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And we eventually find out
it came from a Dollar Store,
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and it was a set of five,
I think.
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So what do you do then?
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We have a house
under surveillance
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that's above a chicken store.
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And that, when one
of the phones was activated,
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it was activated
from that house.
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So it was activated
at that address,
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but there's a bunch
of people there, right?
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- Yes.
- So you have no clue
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who's gonna be the bad guy.
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So at this point
we're looking at the house
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and who's there,
and there's a number of people,
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siblings, parents,
and cousins, and husbands.
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And this has taken
a tremendous amount of work.
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This wasn't just the JTTF,
right?
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We pulled in scores of agents
from outside the JTTF,
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detectives
from all over the NYPD
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and just going block to block,
giving them an assignment,
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pulling video, seeing who
walked where, and going back.
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It's a very manual process.
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We were doing an extensive
video canvas, saying,
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let's go up and down
all of these streets
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and try and figure out how
did these things get here.
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And on 27th Street
we get a couple of breaks.
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We're able to pull video,
and we could see
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a male pulling
two rolling bags.
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He's wearing a backpack
and a fanny pack.
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Walks in.
Just walking.
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He's walking down
the street, and he--
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- No car.
- Nope.
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He walks down the street,
and he places the rolling bag
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next to the dumpster
and walks away.
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Two gentlemen walked down
the street, well-dressed.
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One of them spots
the rolling bag in the garbage,
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pauses, picks it up,
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unzips it,
takes out the bomb,
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and looks at it.
Are you kidding me?
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I kid you not.
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Who are these two guys?
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And we're thinking,
the bomb didn't function,
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so they sent
the second team, like,
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to flip the arming switch,
to adjust the timer,
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to see what was wrong, which,
in and of itself,
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is not a desirable job.
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Gee, the bomb didn't
quite go off.
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Go play with it.
Yeah.
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I wouldn't want that job.
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And they take the bomb,
and like John described,
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it looks like a bomb
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from, like, the Road Runner
cartoon, right?
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It looks like a bomb.
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There's a pressure cooker
with a telephone
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attached to the top of it.
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He puts that down.
He picks up the bag.
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He holds it up,
like "look what I got."
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It's a Louis Vuitton
roller bag.
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And then they keep going down
the street, talking like--
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- Nothing happened.
- Like nothing happened.
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It wasn't really--
it was a knockoff, counterfeit.
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But--
Knockoff.
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I was going to say,
it's probably a knockoff.
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It's New York, yeah.
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But that becomes part
of the debate, which is,
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we had a room full
of agents and detectives,
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and the room splits
down the middle,
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where half the room is saying,
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that's a guy who--
that guy's to arm the device.
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And other people are like,
this is New York.
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It's garbage day.
He's garbage-picking.
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But now we're pulling video
and trying to backtrack
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to figure out, you know,
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where did these two gentlemen
come from?
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Where did they go?
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Where did our bomber come from?
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Where did they go?
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So when you guys saw
the video of the guy bringing
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the roller bag and you
potentially had that house,
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you know, in New Jersey
with the family,
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did you ever show that video
to the family
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to identify
if that's a family member?
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So we looked at
the family members
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that we knew who
were in the house
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and compared their photos
to the video.
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- And you had two brothers.
- Okay.
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Two brothers, okay.
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So you had Ahmad,
and you had his brother.
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And as we got more
and more video of him
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in different places and
clearer shots of the face--
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and now you're looking
at the two.
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You're like, is it this brother
or that brother?
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You're like, no,
it's that brother.
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And it appeared to be Ahmad.
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We know somebody bought
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five burner phones in a store.
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We know we've got
three phones attached
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to bombs that have already
gone off or been rendered safe.
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It means there's a couple
of more phones out there,
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which suggests there
could be more bombs out there.
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And in all likelihood,
you have a bomb factory
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in a residential neighborhood
in New Jersey.
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Well, you're not just gonna
go knock on the door
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and say, where's Ahmad.
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I remember hearing
that the suspected bomber
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tested a bomb at
the house or some--
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or somewhere in New Jersey.
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He was blowing stuff up in
the backyard to figure out,
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like, is this bomb design
functional?
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Sure.
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Is my mixture going
to high order
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when it's time to blow up.
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But we don't find that
till later.
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We think we know
who the bomber is.
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We have a house
under surveillance
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that's above a chicken store,
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you know, in a Jersey town
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and a whole bunch
of people come out.
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The surveillance team
is saying, we got a male out,
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we've got a female out,
we've got another male out,
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groups getting into the car.
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I'm sitting there saying, okay,
now what are we going to do?
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One of them looks like our guy.
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Confirmed it's our guy?
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Not confirmed it's our guy,
looks like our guy.
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Car is on the move.
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We got a very good
surveillance team.
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We've got elements
of SWAT behind them,
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and then they get
on the highway,
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heading to New York City.
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And now it's really
decision time.
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Here's the problem.
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I mean, these are people
from New Jersey.
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If they go south,
they're probably
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going to Kennedy Airport.
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If they go north,
they're probably
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coming into Manhattan.
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Neither one of those
is a good option for us,
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so we've got to do this stop.
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Right.
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So what happened next?
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Surveillance team drops back,
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SWAT ops, operatives, close in.
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They block the car off.
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There's broken glass.
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There's flash-bangs,
people pulled out of the cars.
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The entire Belt Parkway
is now jammed with traffic
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because there's these cars
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and people being yanked out
and put on the ground
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and hands up.
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And everybody's got
their cell phones,
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and they're filming this.
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And it's going to Twitter.
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It's going to YouTube.
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And Ahmad's not there.
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We don't have
our felony subject.
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We have a bunch
of family members.
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And now, in the train station
in Elizabeth, New Jersey,
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two homeless guys find
a backpack.
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One of them happens to be
looking for a backpack.
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He wants it
for a job interview.
346
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So these two guys go
be-boppin' down the street
347
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till they open the backpack,
and there's pipes
348
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and there's wires
and there's cell phones.
349
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And now we have another
ticking bomb.
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That's one
of the other phones.
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So there's a number
of different devices
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of different designs,
which is interesting.
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So these devices
are not pressure cookers
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with phones on them.
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They're pipe bombs with fuses.
Okay.
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We're not liking this guy
because he knew
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how to make
a pressure cooker bomb
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with a certain explosive mix.
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00:15:41,766 --> 00:15:43,943
He knew how to make
another pressure cooker bomb
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with a different
explosive mix.
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Now he's got pipe bombs.
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They bring out the FBI robot.
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And again,
they pull open the bag.
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The devices were so unstable--
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They detonate,
and it destroys the robot.
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00:16:01,525 --> 00:16:03,701
- Oh, wow.
- The entire robot--
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00:16:03,745 --> 00:16:05,312
they blew up--
it blew up the robot,
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00:16:05,355 --> 00:16:06,791
killed the robot.
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00:16:10,926 --> 00:16:12,710
He got a full
robotic funeral, though.
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00:16:14,364 --> 00:16:18,107
So it's not just a guy
who went on the internet
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and figured out
how to make a bomb.
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00:16:20,544 --> 00:16:22,329
This seems to be
a skilled bomb maker
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who knows how
to make a number
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of different kinds of devices.
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00:16:25,593 --> 00:16:27,899
It's the middle
of the goddamn night.
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00:16:27,943 --> 00:16:29,466
We don't have him.
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00:16:29,510 --> 00:16:32,469
We're finding bombs
in public transit places,
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00:16:32,513 --> 00:16:35,255
and we have a rush hour
coming Tuesday morning
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where 5.6 million people
are going to crowd
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00:16:38,954 --> 00:16:41,304
into the subway trains
of New York,
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a million more into
the New Jersey Transit system,
382
00:16:44,177 --> 00:16:47,136
and we have, literally,
a mad bomber on the loose.
383
00:16:47,180 --> 00:16:49,051
So we don't
have him in-pocket.
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Now the presumption
is he knows that we know,
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00:16:52,185 --> 00:16:54,274
and so where are
we doubling our efforts,
386
00:16:54,317 --> 00:16:55,927
trying to find Ahmad?
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00:16:55,971 --> 00:16:57,233
So this is truly a manhunt.
388
00:17:06,721 --> 00:17:10,333
Meanwhile,
at police headquarters,
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00:17:10,377 --> 00:17:13,336
we're swearing in
the new commissioner.
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00:17:13,380 --> 00:17:17,340
His first day started
at midnight the night before,
391
00:17:17,384 --> 00:17:20,474
and he's saying,
we've been all this time
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00:17:20,517 --> 00:17:23,433
without a terrorist attack
in New York City, since 9/11,
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00:17:23,477 --> 00:17:25,740
and on my first day
we have one
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00:17:25,783 --> 00:17:27,394
and now a mad bomber
on the loose.
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00:17:27,437 --> 00:17:29,787
He said, I need this guy
to be caught
396
00:17:29,831 --> 00:17:31,093
before I'm sworn in,
397
00:17:31,137 --> 00:17:33,095
and I said, we're on it.
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00:17:33,139 --> 00:17:36,142
And It's 5:00 in the morning.
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00:17:36,185 --> 00:17:39,710
We've got a couple of thousand
law enforcement people
400
00:17:39,754 --> 00:17:42,452
who know this guy's identity
and are looking for him
401
00:17:42,496 --> 00:17:45,368
along with the FBI, the NYPD,
402
00:17:45,412 --> 00:17:49,111
the JTTF, the NSA, the CIA.
403
00:17:49,155 --> 00:17:51,244
I mean, there's no part
of the intelligence community
404
00:17:51,287 --> 00:17:53,507
that isn't pulling threads on,
where did this guy travel?
405
00:17:53,550 --> 00:17:55,639
Who does he know?
Who does he call?
406
00:17:55,683 --> 00:17:57,380
All those wheels are turning.
407
00:17:57,424 --> 00:17:59,208
But at this point,
we're sitting in the JOC,
408
00:17:59,252 --> 00:18:03,299
talking about, okay,
so how do we get this
409
00:18:03,343 --> 00:18:06,389
to everybody who's not sitting
in front of a television
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00:18:06,433 --> 00:18:09,000
or listening to the radio
in their car?
411
00:18:09,044 --> 00:18:11,742
And somebody says,
you know that thing where
412
00:18:11,786 --> 00:18:14,310
all the phones go off and
they make that terrible noise
413
00:18:14,354 --> 00:18:15,964
and they say, like,
a storm is coming
414
00:18:16,007 --> 00:18:17,705
and here's
the evacuation route?
415
00:18:17,748 --> 00:18:19,010
That's FEMA.
416
00:18:19,054 --> 00:18:20,621
It's like, who's FEMA?
417
00:18:20,664 --> 00:18:22,013
Federal Emergency Management.
418
00:18:22,057 --> 00:18:23,885
That's Homeland Security.
Homeland Security.
419
00:18:23,928 --> 00:18:25,365
We got Homeland Security there.
420
00:18:25,408 --> 00:18:27,497
Get FEMA on the phone.
421
00:18:27,541 --> 00:18:29,717
And we're talking to
the FEMA guy, and we're saying,
422
00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,153
we need to put this out.
423
00:18:31,197 --> 00:18:32,502
He said, that's not
a weather alert.
424
00:18:32,546 --> 00:18:34,504
That's like a "wanted" thing,
you know.
425
00:18:34,548 --> 00:18:37,116
Like, I know, but you guys
have that button
426
00:18:37,159 --> 00:18:38,813
where you can make it
to 50 miles
427
00:18:38,856 --> 00:18:40,380
or 100 miles or 150--
428
00:18:40,423 --> 00:18:43,470
we need that entire
Metropolitan area donut.
429
00:18:43,513 --> 00:18:46,125
We're talking New York,
New Jersey, you know,
430
00:18:46,168 --> 00:18:47,561
the entire Metropolitan area.
431
00:18:47,604 --> 00:18:49,258
We need that
to go to every phone,
432
00:18:49,302 --> 00:18:51,608
and you can make that happen--
433
00:18:51,652 --> 00:18:54,568
this guy's picture,
this guy's name.
434
00:18:54,611 --> 00:18:56,700
Find this guy.
435
00:18:56,744 --> 00:19:00,356
And the guy says, I'm going
to have to get authorization
436
00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,053
because it's not weather.
437
00:19:02,097 --> 00:19:04,665
But we can't do a picture.
438
00:19:04,708 --> 00:19:06,145
Do you know what year it is?
439
00:19:06,188 --> 00:19:07,755
What do you mean you
can't text out a picture?
440
00:19:07,798 --> 00:19:09,060
My kid's 12.
441
00:19:09,104 --> 00:19:10,497
He can text out a picture.
442
00:19:10,540 --> 00:19:13,064
And they said, sir,
the system was designed
443
00:19:13,108 --> 00:19:15,502
with the carriers,
and it carries
444
00:19:15,545 --> 00:19:18,548
a minimum amount of data,
which is what they agreed to.
445
00:19:18,592 --> 00:19:21,725
And that doesn't write--
look, mister,
446
00:19:21,769 --> 00:19:23,771
we've never asked
the general public,
447
00:19:23,814 --> 00:19:26,556
have you seen a storm
that looks like this before?
448
00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,123
So it wasn't an obvious call.
449
00:19:28,167 --> 00:19:29,864
You put somebody's face out
450
00:19:29,907 --> 00:19:32,171
and it's the wrong person,
and that person either
451
00:19:32,214 --> 00:19:34,173
accelerates the violence,
or maybe an act of violence
452
00:19:34,216 --> 00:19:37,176
is committed against him
or somebody who looks like him.
453
00:19:37,219 --> 00:19:38,394
It was--it was a hard call.
454
00:19:38,438 --> 00:19:39,656
But it was the right call.
455
00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:41,484
Everybody's phone blows up.
456
00:19:41,528 --> 00:19:43,138
BOLO alert.
457
00:19:43,182 --> 00:19:46,402
And here's this thing--
find Ahmad Khan Rahimi.
458
00:19:46,446 --> 00:19:48,752
And I remember seeing
cable news,
459
00:19:48,796 --> 00:19:51,059
and the hosts look down
at their phones
460
00:19:51,102 --> 00:19:52,408
because their phones
all started--
461
00:19:52,452 --> 00:19:53,670
And they're all
going off at--
462
00:19:53,714 --> 00:19:54,889
- Right.
- Outstanding.
463
00:19:54,932 --> 00:19:56,238
So it went off on live TV.
464
00:19:59,241 --> 00:20:01,112
It was about
half an hour later.
465
00:20:01,156 --> 00:20:03,071
We get this call
from Linden, New Jersey.
466
00:20:03,114 --> 00:20:05,552
And so a business owner
467
00:20:05,595 --> 00:20:07,075
owns a bowling alley
kind of bar.
468
00:20:07,118 --> 00:20:09,120
There's a person sleeping
on his--
469
00:20:09,164 --> 00:20:10,209
by the front door.
470
00:20:10,252 --> 00:20:12,820
So he called 911.
471
00:20:34,972 --> 00:20:36,974
The police officer from
Linden, New Jersey, pulls up.
472
00:20:37,018 --> 00:20:38,715
So this is Angel Padilla.
473
00:20:38,759 --> 00:20:40,891
He's an ex-Marine.
474
00:20:40,935 --> 00:20:42,937
He wakes up that morning.
475
00:20:42,980 --> 00:20:46,680
He sees the BOLO
and gets his ballistic helmet
476
00:20:46,723 --> 00:20:49,509
and puts it in the car
and his other vest.
477
00:20:49,552 --> 00:20:53,034
And he tapes the picture
of this guy to the dashboard,
478
00:20:53,077 --> 00:20:56,255
and he gets the call
of the homeless guy sleeping
479
00:20:56,298 --> 00:20:57,691
in the doorway.
480
00:21:36,860 --> 00:21:39,298
As you watch
the body camera video,
481
00:21:39,341 --> 00:21:41,865
if there was a noise
that went off
482
00:21:41,909 --> 00:21:44,912
like when your head clicks,
483
00:21:44,955 --> 00:21:46,870
holy shit, that's the guy--
Right.
484
00:21:46,914 --> 00:21:49,090
You could almost hear it
485
00:21:49,133 --> 00:21:53,007
because you see Angel's
demeanor change slightly.
486
00:21:53,050 --> 00:21:54,965
He goes to his radio,
and he says--
487
00:22:00,493 --> 00:22:01,624
He calls another car.
488
00:22:01,668 --> 00:22:03,409
He says, are you out there?
489
00:22:03,452 --> 00:22:05,759
And nobody answers.
490
00:22:42,404 --> 00:22:44,406
Dispatch to 709.
491
00:23:09,083 --> 00:23:11,607
Angel Padilla's hit.
492
00:23:11,651 --> 00:23:14,001
Meanwhile, a couple
of blocks away,
493
00:23:14,044 --> 00:23:15,437
there's a cop named Hammer,
494
00:23:15,481 --> 00:23:18,919
is coming down in the SUV,
sees Rahimi.
495
00:23:18,962 --> 00:23:20,660
Rahimi shoots at him.
496
00:23:20,703 --> 00:23:22,444
The bullet goes through
the window,
497
00:23:22,488 --> 00:23:25,186
hits his light package up
at the top there,
498
00:23:25,229 --> 00:23:27,231
and ends up hitting
him in the forehead.
499
00:23:27,275 --> 00:23:28,668
So he's been shot in the head.
500
00:23:28,711 --> 00:23:30,931
- Holy shit. Wow.
- And he says,
501
00:23:30,974 --> 00:23:32,541
well, I don't have time
to shoot at this guy,
502
00:23:32,585 --> 00:23:34,413
so he goes to run him over.
503
00:23:34,456 --> 00:23:38,417
And he just misses him,
and Rahimi dodges the car
504
00:23:38,460 --> 00:23:40,201
and is still running
and shooting
505
00:23:40,244 --> 00:23:42,377
as other officers are trying
to set a perimeter
506
00:23:42,421 --> 00:23:44,553
around him, respond in.
507
00:23:44,597 --> 00:23:48,165
And there's a brand-new rookie,
also an ex-Marine.
508
00:23:48,209 --> 00:23:49,558
Rahimi is firing at him
509
00:23:49,602 --> 00:23:50,733
from across the street.
510
00:23:50,777 --> 00:23:52,169
They're shooting at the car!
511
00:24:08,838 --> 00:24:10,666
He's shooting.
512
00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:12,581
As the rookie comes out
with his gun,
513
00:24:12,625 --> 00:24:15,323
he remembers, oh, there's
a rifle in this car,
514
00:24:15,366 --> 00:24:16,977
and I was a Marine.
515
00:24:17,020 --> 00:24:20,110
So he picks up the rifle,
and he aims at Rahimi.
516
00:24:31,774 --> 00:24:33,907
And he fires the shots.
517
00:24:39,216 --> 00:24:40,957
And Rahimi is hit.
518
00:25:03,371 --> 00:25:05,025
Meanwhile,
the new commissioner
519
00:25:05,068 --> 00:25:06,505
has taken the oath.
520
00:25:06,548 --> 00:25:08,507
We hand him
an index card saying,
521
00:25:08,550 --> 00:25:11,945
"Suspect down, shot by cops
in Linden, New Jersey,
522
00:25:11,988 --> 00:25:13,555
in custody."
523
00:25:13,599 --> 00:25:15,601
And he's like, okay,
now I can get sworn in.
524
00:25:17,428 --> 00:25:19,082
Our Counterterrorism
and Intelligence Bureaus
525
00:25:19,126 --> 00:25:20,562
are second to none.
526
00:25:20,606 --> 00:25:22,477
We saw this in action
on Saturday night
527
00:25:22,521 --> 00:25:25,480
when our personnel responded
quickly and decisively
528
00:25:25,524 --> 00:25:27,569
to that blast in Chelsea.
529
00:25:27,613 --> 00:25:29,789
There was a lot going on
that day.
530
00:26:12,353 --> 00:26:16,226
Going back to the two guys
that were on the street
531
00:26:16,270 --> 00:26:18,272
that came out at dinner--
532
00:26:18,315 --> 00:26:19,752
did you guys ever
identify them?
533
00:26:19,795 --> 00:26:20,796
They went to their room.
534
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,232
They turned on the news.
535
00:26:22,276 --> 00:26:24,191
They realized what they did
536
00:26:24,234 --> 00:26:25,845
and that they were
in big trouble.
537
00:26:25,888 --> 00:26:27,977
So they went out
the back of the hotel
538
00:26:28,021 --> 00:26:29,979
and threw it in a dumpster.
539
00:26:30,023 --> 00:26:31,633
So of course--
540
00:26:31,677 --> 00:26:32,852
They didn't take
the fake Louis Vuitton.
541
00:26:32,895 --> 00:26:34,505
They did not.
542
00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:35,681
- So, of course, they're like--
- And now we want the bag.
543
00:26:35,724 --> 00:26:36,812
- Yeah.
- We want the bag.
544
00:26:36,856 --> 00:26:38,509
And so now we had agents
and detectives
545
00:26:38,553 --> 00:26:41,295
tracking dumpsters
to landfills,
546
00:26:41,338 --> 00:26:43,602
trying to recover the bag.
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