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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,220 --> 00:00:12,678 Hey crime fans. 2 00:00:12,763 --> 00:00:15,305 It's time for everyone's favorite podcast. 3 00:00:15,349 --> 00:00:18,600 "How I met your murderer" with Mack Meyer. 4 00:00:26,152 --> 00:00:28,402 - Well, hello, dear listener. 5 00:00:29,572 --> 00:00:32,656 Our story begins on that most fateful of nights 6 00:00:32,742 --> 00:00:35,034 in a young person's life. 7 00:00:35,077 --> 00:00:36,201 Prom night. 8 00:00:42,793 --> 00:00:46,712 For some, prom is the best night of their lives. 9 00:00:46,756 --> 00:00:50,549 But the idyllic fantasy is not so for everyone. 10 00:00:56,390 --> 00:00:57,973 - How could you?! 11 00:00:58,059 --> 00:01:01,518 - One night can seem perfect, frozen in time. 12 00:01:03,731 --> 00:01:05,314 But is it real, 13 00:01:05,399 --> 00:01:07,483 or is that just the story that we tell? 14 00:01:12,281 --> 00:01:14,073 We think we may know someone, 15 00:01:15,076 --> 00:01:16,909 but looks can be deceiving. 16 00:01:24,293 --> 00:01:26,001 - Just leave me alone! 17 00:01:27,838 --> 00:01:29,713 - The brutal truth is, 18 00:01:29,757 --> 00:01:31,256 that everything, 19 00:01:31,300 --> 00:01:33,967 - please, let me go! 20 00:01:34,053 --> 00:01:38,097 - Love, youth, infatuation? 21 00:01:39,975 --> 00:01:41,266 Everything ends. 22 00:02:11,966 --> 00:02:14,633 You know, getting in the water helps. 23 00:02:14,677 --> 00:02:15,926 - But I keep bumping into people. 24 00:02:15,970 --> 00:02:18,345 I can't swim in a straight line. 25 00:02:18,430 --> 00:02:20,514 - You know, keep your head straight 26 00:02:20,599 --> 00:02:23,392 then put your pinkies 11 and one. 27 00:02:24,228 --> 00:02:25,477 I promise, that'll help. 28 00:02:26,397 --> 00:02:28,313 - Thanks! 29 00:02:28,399 --> 00:02:30,691 - I am such a big fan of the podcast. 30 00:02:30,776 --> 00:02:33,318 I love this week's episode on the night stalker. 31 00:02:33,362 --> 00:02:34,403 I listen to it before bed 32 00:02:34,488 --> 00:02:36,738 which is not the best idea, but 33 00:02:36,824 --> 00:02:38,490 you have such a soothing voice. 34 00:02:38,534 --> 00:02:39,408 - Thank you. 35 00:02:41,579 --> 00:02:42,452 Mmm. 36 00:02:43,372 --> 00:02:44,830 - Gross? 37 00:02:44,915 --> 00:02:45,998 - So it must be good for me. 38 00:02:47,543 --> 00:02:49,793 You know, I think you're the only real friend I've made 39 00:02:49,837 --> 00:02:50,669 since I've moved here. 40 00:02:50,713 --> 00:02:53,463 - Trust takes time, my mom says. 41 00:02:53,507 --> 00:02:54,631 I know school's not easy 42 00:02:54,717 --> 00:02:56,425 when you're the weird murder mystery girl. 43 00:02:56,510 --> 00:02:57,926 - I am that girl! 44 00:02:58,012 --> 00:02:59,219 Must be why we're friends. 45 00:02:59,305 --> 00:03:00,304 I still have no idea how I ended up 46 00:03:00,389 --> 00:03:01,805 with the captain of the football team. 47 00:03:01,849 --> 00:03:03,515 How does that compute? 48 00:03:03,559 --> 00:03:04,516 - Oh, right. 49 00:03:04,602 --> 00:03:05,684 Didn't he go here? 50 00:03:05,769 --> 00:03:07,186 I think my parents know him. 51 00:03:08,272 --> 00:03:09,313 - He did. 52 00:03:09,356 --> 00:03:11,064 He was even prom king. 53 00:03:11,150 --> 00:03:12,816 - Can I come by your studio sometime? 54 00:03:12,860 --> 00:03:13,817 - You better. 55 00:03:13,861 --> 00:03:15,444 It's a date. 56 00:03:15,529 --> 00:03:16,904 - I gotta run. 57 00:03:16,947 --> 00:03:19,865 Don't stay up all night listening to crime podcasts. 58 00:03:19,950 --> 00:03:21,867 - I definitely wanna be there for your episode 59 00:03:21,911 --> 00:03:23,744 on the blue ribbon killer. 60 00:03:23,829 --> 00:03:25,370 - The what? 61 00:03:27,374 --> 00:03:29,541 According to Andie, the blue ribbon killer 62 00:03:29,627 --> 00:03:31,543 drowned three women in one summer. 63 00:03:31,587 --> 00:03:33,921 It all started the summer after Henry finished high school. 64 00:03:34,006 --> 00:03:34,880 - Foul play? 65 00:03:34,924 --> 00:03:36,798 - And unsolved. 66 00:03:36,884 --> 00:03:38,634 - How did we not know about this? 67 00:03:38,719 --> 00:03:41,053 Okay, this is the best thing about you moving here. 68 00:03:41,138 --> 00:03:43,805 Besides the super cush digs. 69 00:03:43,891 --> 00:03:45,182 - Pretty great, right? 70 00:03:45,267 --> 00:03:46,934 - For a house you inherited from your mother-in-law, 71 00:03:47,019 --> 00:03:48,644 it's pretty incredible. 72 00:03:49,647 --> 00:03:51,313 - I wish I got to know her better. 73 00:03:51,398 --> 00:03:52,564 Yeah. 74 00:03:52,608 --> 00:03:53,857 - And of course the best reason for the move 75 00:03:53,901 --> 00:03:55,484 is more time with Henry. 76 00:03:55,569 --> 00:03:56,860 - How could I forget? 77 00:03:56,946 --> 00:03:59,571 No, but seriously, I’m thinking multi part series. 78 00:04:00,741 --> 00:04:04,076 Or your first book. 79 00:04:04,119 --> 00:04:05,035 - Are you? 80 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,036 - Mhmm. 81 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,663 - Tape first, then talk. 82 00:04:13,754 --> 00:04:15,754 And even though his crimes took place 83 00:04:15,798 --> 00:04:17,965 over the span of 13 years, 84 00:04:18,050 --> 00:04:20,133 it would be more than 32 years later 85 00:04:20,219 --> 00:04:22,928 before he was finally charged. 86 00:04:22,972 --> 00:04:24,763 And that, dear listener, is our episode 87 00:04:24,848 --> 00:04:26,431 on the golden state killer. 88 00:04:26,517 --> 00:04:29,393 Remember, stay safe and keep your eyes and ears peeled. 89 00:04:29,436 --> 00:04:31,103 Lest we forget, Liz Kloepfer, 90 00:04:31,188 --> 00:04:33,105 Ted Bundy's ex-girlfriend. 91 00:04:33,148 --> 00:04:36,275 Despite all the signs, she ignored her intuition 92 00:04:36,318 --> 00:04:38,777 and didn't see what was right in front of her. 93 00:04:38,821 --> 00:04:40,028 Look how that ended up. 94 00:04:40,906 --> 00:04:44,449 Women, we are smarter than this. 95 00:04:44,493 --> 00:04:46,702 So, for any of you murderers listening, 96 00:04:46,787 --> 00:04:47,953 this is your warning. 97 00:04:49,581 --> 00:04:50,622 We are onto you. 98 00:04:51,792 --> 00:04:54,126 Please share your thoughts with me on social media 99 00:04:54,169 --> 00:04:56,128 and more importantly, you can share them with me 100 00:04:56,171 --> 00:04:58,714 in person at our upcoming live taping. 101 00:04:58,799 --> 00:05:00,924 As always, I'm Mack Meyer. 102 00:05:01,010 --> 00:05:02,926 June Kim is our fearless producer, 103 00:05:02,970 --> 00:05:04,511 and we're signing off. 104 00:05:04,596 --> 00:05:06,221 Au revoir. - Oh, wait, wait. 105 00:05:06,307 --> 00:05:07,889 - What, too uppy? 106 00:05:11,145 --> 00:05:13,312 Before we go, I wanna let you all know 107 00:05:13,355 --> 00:05:16,148 how much I've been enjoying Pauletto protein powder 108 00:05:16,233 --> 00:05:17,441 after my workouts. 109 00:05:17,526 --> 00:05:20,152 Serves up the protein and electrolytes you need, 110 00:05:20,195 --> 00:05:22,612 taste like my husband's gym shorts in a blender. 111 00:05:25,409 --> 00:05:26,450 It tastes great. 112 00:05:28,912 --> 00:05:30,495 Make sure to use the code "murderer protein" 113 00:05:30,539 --> 00:05:32,664 for a 15% discount at checkout. 114 00:05:32,708 --> 00:05:34,333 As always, thanks for listening 115 00:05:34,418 --> 00:05:36,084 to "how I met you murderer". 116 00:05:36,170 --> 00:05:38,503 Au revoir, and watch your back. 117 00:05:40,507 --> 00:05:42,841 And how exactly would you know 118 00:05:42,885 --> 00:05:43,884 what Henry's shorts taste like? 119 00:05:43,969 --> 00:05:45,010 - Vivid imagination. 120 00:05:47,222 --> 00:05:51,099 So, first recording in the new Clarksville digs. 121 00:05:51,185 --> 00:05:52,976 - Yeah, how did it feel? 122 00:05:54,563 --> 00:05:56,813 - You know, lacks the energy of the city. 123 00:05:56,899 --> 00:05:57,689 - Mhmm. 124 00:05:57,775 --> 00:05:58,899 - But, beats sharing a studio 125 00:05:58,984 --> 00:06:02,027 with that Lego rubbing ASMR guy. 126 00:06:02,071 --> 00:06:03,195 - Oh wait, I forgot to mention. 127 00:06:03,238 --> 00:06:05,447 Did you see the comment board yesterday? 128 00:06:05,532 --> 00:06:06,323 - No, what's up? 129 00:06:06,408 --> 00:06:07,699 - Someone claiming to be related 130 00:06:07,743 --> 00:06:09,743 to a victim of the lover's Lane psycho 131 00:06:09,828 --> 00:06:11,411 is miffed about what you said. 132 00:06:11,497 --> 00:06:12,537 - What did I say? 133 00:06:12,581 --> 00:06:14,289 - After seeing a picture of Neil Kincaid, 134 00:06:14,375 --> 00:06:17,209 I can see why he was chosen by the killer. 135 00:06:17,252 --> 00:06:19,336 Exquisite bone structure. 136 00:06:19,380 --> 00:06:21,338 - It was a compliment! 137 00:06:21,382 --> 00:06:22,172 And he does have exquisite bone structure. 138 00:06:22,257 --> 00:06:24,216 - That's fine, I'll delete it. 139 00:06:27,429 --> 00:06:29,221 We had over 400,000 downloads last month 140 00:06:29,306 --> 00:06:31,807 so your words are bound to ruffle some feathers. 141 00:06:33,060 --> 00:06:35,727 - No, leave it. 142 00:06:35,813 --> 00:06:37,646 Everyone's entitled to their opinion. 143 00:06:37,731 --> 00:06:39,189 - Someday your tombstone's gonna read 144 00:06:39,233 --> 00:06:41,775 "was always nice to psychos." 145 00:06:41,860 --> 00:06:42,901 - One can only hope. 146 00:06:46,448 --> 00:06:48,365 - Okay, lets dig deep on this blue ribbon thing. 147 00:06:48,409 --> 00:06:50,200 Victim profiles, mos. 148 00:06:52,246 --> 00:06:54,913 Research and pad Thai. 149 00:06:54,998 --> 00:06:56,081 - Oooh. - Yum. 150 00:06:56,125 --> 00:06:57,332 - I don't know. 151 00:06:57,418 --> 00:06:59,251 You know we're halfway through the Bundy segment 152 00:06:59,294 --> 00:07:00,377 for the live taping. 153 00:07:00,421 --> 00:07:02,754 And I came here to focus on my marriage, 154 00:07:02,798 --> 00:07:04,589 not get wrapped up in another story. 155 00:07:05,926 --> 00:07:07,592 Blue ribbon's not going anywhere. 156 00:07:09,263 --> 00:07:10,929 Besides, 157 00:07:12,599 --> 00:07:14,850 this afternoon, we find out. 158 00:07:16,478 --> 00:07:19,020 About the in vitro? 159 00:07:21,066 --> 00:07:23,150 - Yes, I'm so sorry I forgot. 160 00:07:23,235 --> 00:07:25,735 Look, don't worry about it. 161 00:07:25,821 --> 00:07:26,778 You got this one, babe. 162 00:07:28,073 --> 00:07:29,739 - We're both ready for some good news. 163 00:07:34,997 --> 00:07:37,873 - This doesn't mean all hope is lost. 164 00:07:37,958 --> 00:07:40,250 We do have other options to consider. 165 00:07:41,670 --> 00:07:43,962 - How is it possible nothing is taking? 166 00:07:44,006 --> 00:07:46,631 We're doing everything you told us to. 167 00:07:46,675 --> 00:07:49,301 We're not eating processed foods, we're exercising, 168 00:07:49,344 --> 00:07:50,635 we're not drinking. 169 00:07:50,721 --> 00:07:52,637 - Not everyone takes on the first, 170 00:07:52,723 --> 00:07:54,764 or even the second time. 171 00:07:54,850 --> 00:07:59,811 We have to continue trying. 172 00:07:59,897 --> 00:08:02,481 - I'm sorry, I have to take this. 173 00:08:04,067 --> 00:08:06,485 Evelyn, has the deposition been approved? 174 00:08:08,530 --> 00:08:09,821 - I'm sorry about him. 175 00:08:11,241 --> 00:08:12,824 It's a very important case. 176 00:08:13,702 --> 00:08:14,576 Please continue. 177 00:08:16,246 --> 00:08:19,956 - I was just saying, not everyone takes on the first 178 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,666 or even the second time. 179 00:08:21,752 --> 00:08:23,293 But that should not discourage you 180 00:08:23,337 --> 00:08:25,337 from continuing this process. 181 00:08:25,422 --> 00:08:27,380 I know how passionate the two of you are 182 00:08:27,466 --> 00:08:29,508 and you're very much involved. 183 00:08:31,303 --> 00:08:32,427 - Just a talking show. 184 00:08:32,513 --> 00:08:33,094 Hey, I gotta go, okay? 185 00:08:33,180 --> 00:08:34,721 I'll call you back. 186 00:08:34,806 --> 00:08:37,015 Mack! 187 00:08:37,059 --> 00:08:37,933 MacKenzie! 188 00:08:38,977 --> 00:08:40,018 MacKenzie! 189 00:08:40,103 --> 00:08:42,270 - Do you know how humiliating that was? 190 00:08:42,356 --> 00:08:43,855 - Mack, this is my first chance to sit lead chair 191 00:08:43,941 --> 00:08:44,814 with the partners. 192 00:08:44,858 --> 00:08:46,316 You know what this means to me. 193 00:08:47,611 --> 00:08:50,153 - Are you even disappointed that the in vitro didn't work? 194 00:08:50,197 --> 00:08:51,988 - Of course I'm upset. 195 00:08:52,032 --> 00:08:53,281 How can you say that? 196 00:08:54,535 --> 00:08:57,536 I want us to have the life that we've always wanted. 197 00:08:58,705 --> 00:09:00,205 - How could we have the life that we've always wanted 198 00:09:00,249 --> 00:09:01,414 when you're never here? 199 00:09:01,500 --> 00:09:02,749 - If I drive back from the city every night, 200 00:09:02,834 --> 00:09:04,960 it's barely three hours of sleep. 201 00:09:05,045 --> 00:09:06,878 We're in the middle of a trial, Mack. 202 00:09:11,593 --> 00:09:12,384 Ugh. 203 00:09:13,303 --> 00:09:14,886 - Your work wife's calling again. 204 00:09:14,972 --> 00:09:16,263 - Yeah, you're really going after Evelyn now? 205 00:09:16,348 --> 00:09:17,639 - Well you only talk about her 206 00:09:17,724 --> 00:09:18,848 every five minutes. - Yeah we only work together. 207 00:09:18,892 --> 00:09:20,141 - Yeah, that hasn't stopped you before. 208 00:09:20,227 --> 00:09:22,269 - I was a different person back then. 209 00:09:22,354 --> 00:09:23,979 I screwed up, okay? 210 00:09:25,774 --> 00:09:26,565 I promise- 211 00:09:26,650 --> 00:09:27,524 - it's not gonna happen again? 212 00:09:27,568 --> 00:09:28,567 Yeah, you keep mentioning that. 213 00:09:28,652 --> 00:09:29,776 - How many times do I have to tell you 214 00:09:29,861 --> 00:09:31,361 I'm not sleeping with Evelyn?! 215 00:09:32,573 --> 00:09:33,738 - Jesus, Henry. 216 00:09:36,076 --> 00:09:36,908 I'll walk. 217 00:10:20,037 --> 00:10:21,119 - And delete. 218 00:10:25,459 --> 00:10:26,916 Well, hello again. 219 00:10:29,171 --> 00:10:30,378 "You have no idea what it's like 220 00:10:30,464 --> 00:10:32,756 to be the family member of a victim? 221 00:10:32,841 --> 00:10:35,467 How can you be so cruel and insensitive? 222 00:10:36,511 --> 00:10:37,594 You read straight from the Internet 223 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,304 and your catch phrase is dumb." 224 00:10:40,390 --> 00:10:41,806 My catch phrase is not dumb. 225 00:10:51,276 --> 00:10:53,818 Au revoir and watch your back. 226 00:11:02,621 --> 00:11:07,666 Ah! 227 00:11:08,418 --> 00:11:09,292 Oh! 228 00:11:10,295 --> 00:11:11,670 I didn't mean to scare you. 229 00:11:11,713 --> 00:11:12,796 - No, not at all. 230 00:11:12,839 --> 00:11:14,589 Thank you for your help. 231 00:11:16,677 --> 00:11:18,176 - I'm sorry, but do I know you? 232 00:11:19,096 --> 00:11:19,761 - I don't think so. 233 00:11:19,846 --> 00:11:20,887 I just moved into town. 234 00:11:20,972 --> 00:11:24,099 - No, I definitely have seen you before. 235 00:11:25,727 --> 00:11:27,268 - Do you happen to have an affinity 236 00:11:27,354 --> 00:11:29,020 for true crime podcasts? 237 00:11:29,106 --> 00:11:30,355 I do one called "how I met your murderer". 238 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,440 - I love that podcast! 239 00:11:32,526 --> 00:11:35,026 But wait, I... 240 00:11:37,114 --> 00:11:39,447 I've seen you taking out the trash. 241 00:11:39,533 --> 00:11:41,950 I live across the street, I’m Oliver. 242 00:11:42,035 --> 00:11:43,368 - Mack. 243 00:11:43,453 --> 00:11:44,786 - I had no idea I was living 244 00:11:44,871 --> 00:11:47,497 next to a real famous person, Mack. 245 00:11:47,541 --> 00:11:50,500 - Podcast famous, barely counts. 246 00:11:50,585 --> 00:11:51,459 What do you do? 247 00:11:51,545 --> 00:11:54,170 - I'm actually a police officer 248 00:11:54,256 --> 00:11:56,423 and amateur photographer. 249 00:11:56,508 --> 00:11:57,966 - What do you photograph? 250 00:11:58,051 --> 00:11:59,634 - I specialize in portraits, here. 251 00:12:01,972 --> 00:12:03,304 If you do it right, 252 00:12:04,224 --> 00:12:05,974 you can capture a glimpse of someone, 253 00:12:06,977 --> 00:12:09,060 their true selves, and save it. 254 00:12:10,439 --> 00:12:11,146 Forever. 255 00:12:12,441 --> 00:12:14,566 - Well these are terrific. 256 00:12:14,651 --> 00:12:16,234 - Thank you. 257 00:12:16,319 --> 00:12:18,737 If you ever needed anything for your site 258 00:12:18,780 --> 00:12:21,281 or promo stuff, it'd be my treat. 259 00:12:21,366 --> 00:12:22,365 - Thank you. 260 00:12:22,451 --> 00:12:24,200 - I'd love to get my work out there. 261 00:12:24,286 --> 00:12:25,744 - Mack. 262 00:12:25,829 --> 00:12:26,703 - Henry. 263 00:12:27,581 --> 00:12:28,580 - Oliver. 264 00:12:28,623 --> 00:12:30,373 - Wait, do you two know each other? 265 00:12:30,459 --> 00:12:32,167 - Henry and I went to high school together. 266 00:12:32,252 --> 00:12:33,752 - Yeah, it's been a long time. 267 00:12:35,297 --> 00:12:38,047 - I was so sorry to hear about your mother's passing. 268 00:12:38,133 --> 00:12:39,382 She was a lovely woman. 269 00:12:40,302 --> 00:12:41,593 - Thank you. 270 00:12:41,636 --> 00:12:43,219 She always spoke highly of you. 271 00:12:44,890 --> 00:12:46,931 - We should have you over for dinner 272 00:12:47,017 --> 00:12:48,600 so you two can properly catch up. 273 00:12:49,686 --> 00:12:51,060 - Yeah. 274 00:12:51,104 --> 00:12:52,270 I'll leave you to it. 275 00:12:53,523 --> 00:12:54,689 Nice seeing you, by the way. 276 00:12:54,775 --> 00:12:56,399 And I'll see you on trash day. 277 00:12:58,528 --> 00:12:59,402 - Mack. 278 00:13:02,991 --> 00:13:03,865 Mack. 279 00:13:07,996 --> 00:13:09,120 Listen, Mack. 280 00:13:10,582 --> 00:13:11,289 I'm sorry. 281 00:13:12,542 --> 00:13:15,001 Look, what I did back there, 282 00:13:15,086 --> 00:13:16,878 I should not have left you in there. 283 00:13:18,131 --> 00:13:19,631 - I needed you. 284 00:13:19,674 --> 00:13:21,257 - This case has been a big distraction. 285 00:13:21,301 --> 00:13:22,884 I know that's not fair to you. 286 00:13:25,889 --> 00:13:27,138 You're my world, Mack. 287 00:13:29,100 --> 00:13:33,061 I wanna build a future and a family 288 00:13:33,146 --> 00:13:34,479 here with you. 289 00:13:35,774 --> 00:13:37,273 - I want all those things too. 290 00:13:40,529 --> 00:13:42,779 I love you, you know that? 291 00:13:44,825 --> 00:13:46,241 - I love you too. 292 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:54,165 Oliver? 293 00:13:54,209 --> 00:13:55,667 I barely know the guy. 294 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,336 - Didn't you grow up across the street from each other? 295 00:13:58,421 --> 00:14:00,922 - We took swim lessons when we were kids 296 00:14:01,007 --> 00:14:02,173 but he was better friends with my mom 297 00:14:02,217 --> 00:14:03,424 than he was with me. 298 00:14:03,510 --> 00:14:05,343 - Hmm, he seems nice. 299 00:14:05,387 --> 00:14:06,678 Kind of funny even. 300 00:14:06,763 --> 00:14:08,680 - Maybe we were friends for a bit. 301 00:14:08,723 --> 00:14:10,515 After his parents split he got weird. 302 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,016 I barely ever saw him. 303 00:14:12,060 --> 00:14:13,476 He was always by himself. 304 00:14:13,562 --> 00:14:15,478 - I'm thinking of asking Oliver to help with the podcast. 305 00:14:15,564 --> 00:14:17,689 - What could Oliver possibly have to offer? 306 00:14:17,774 --> 00:14:18,982 - A lot, actually. 307 00:14:19,067 --> 00:14:20,859 I mean, I need a police officer's perspective. 308 00:14:20,902 --> 00:14:21,860 - On what? 309 00:14:21,903 --> 00:14:23,403 - The blue ribbon killer. 310 00:14:25,073 --> 00:14:26,447 How come you never mentioned the murders? 311 00:14:26,533 --> 00:14:27,824 - Ah, dammit! 312 00:14:27,868 --> 00:14:29,033 Are you okay? 313 00:14:30,620 --> 00:14:31,995 - Yeah. 314 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:32,871 I'm fine. 315 00:14:34,958 --> 00:14:36,833 What do you remember about that time? 316 00:14:38,003 --> 00:14:38,835 - Nothing. 317 00:14:39,754 --> 00:14:40,920 I was away at college. 318 00:14:41,965 --> 00:14:44,382 - See, all the more reason to ask Oliver. 319 00:14:44,467 --> 00:14:46,009 He might have access to case files. 320 00:14:46,052 --> 00:14:49,554 - Mack, I don't want you digging into this. 321 00:14:49,598 --> 00:14:50,430 - Why not? 322 00:14:51,558 --> 00:14:54,809 - Because, I mean, it was a social trauma. 323 00:14:54,895 --> 00:14:56,769 I'm sure those people want to forget. 324 00:14:56,855 --> 00:14:58,730 - But what if I can help? 325 00:15:03,612 --> 00:15:04,527 Oh, I know. 326 00:15:07,073 --> 00:15:08,114 You're jealous. 327 00:15:08,199 --> 00:15:09,699 - What? - Mhmm. 328 00:15:09,784 --> 00:15:10,700 - Okay. 329 00:15:11,578 --> 00:15:14,704 I am not jealous of Oliver Turner. 330 00:15:16,124 --> 00:15:19,042 You know, maybe instead of turning over all the rocks, 331 00:15:19,127 --> 00:15:21,586 maybe you just wanna let it be. 332 00:15:21,671 --> 00:15:23,421 - Ooh, Henry, you do realize 333 00:15:23,506 --> 00:15:25,590 you've made it sound even more appealing. 334 00:15:29,471 --> 00:15:30,094 I love you. 335 00:15:31,765 --> 00:15:33,056 You better always be here. 336 00:15:33,099 --> 00:15:33,765 - Ooh. 337 00:15:35,852 --> 00:15:38,561 I like this bossy MacKenzie. 338 00:15:38,647 --> 00:15:39,520 - Do you? 339 00:16:11,972 --> 00:16:13,221 - I'll be back tomorrow. 340 00:16:13,306 --> 00:16:13,930 - Have a good day at work. 341 00:16:14,015 --> 00:16:14,973 - All right, love you. 342 00:16:15,016 --> 00:16:15,807 - Love you. 343 00:16:15,850 --> 00:16:16,599 Bye. 344 00:16:16,643 --> 00:16:17,308 - Bye. 345 00:16:20,313 --> 00:16:22,271 ♪ Should I hang it up ♪ 346 00:16:22,357 --> 00:16:27,402 ♪ can't decide, I'm going back and forth ♪ 347 00:16:27,862 --> 00:16:32,782 ♪ I've been swinging like a pendulum ♪ 348 00:16:34,202 --> 00:16:36,160 ♪ for you ♪ 349 00:16:36,204 --> 00:16:41,165 ♪ I've been swinging like a pendulum ♪ 350 00:16:41,876 --> 00:16:43,668 ♪ for you ♪ 351 00:16:43,753 --> 00:16:47,797 ♪ I'll go to bed and wake up broken hearted ♪ 352 00:16:47,882 --> 00:16:51,843 ♪ just one more turn and I'm back where I started ♪ 353 00:16:51,886 --> 00:16:56,305 ♪ I've been swinging like a pendulum ♪ 354 00:17:35,263 --> 00:17:36,179 - What the? 355 00:17:59,287 --> 00:18:00,411 Who is this guy? 356 00:18:00,497 --> 00:18:02,997 Dejavu49, take a look at the person 357 00:18:03,083 --> 00:18:04,165 you're married to? 358 00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:05,291 I mean, are they implying that I am married 359 00:18:05,376 --> 00:18:06,834 to a serial killer? 360 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,088 - I mean, I wish Henry was that interesting. 361 00:18:10,131 --> 00:18:11,047 No offense. 362 00:18:12,050 --> 00:18:13,382 - It's probably nothing. 363 00:18:14,803 --> 00:18:15,843 Ooh, oh. 364 00:18:17,847 --> 00:18:19,889 Fertility drugs still make you dizzy? 365 00:18:21,101 --> 00:18:22,350 - Third time's the charm. 366 00:18:24,479 --> 00:18:26,771 Oh, and I have news. 367 00:18:26,856 --> 00:18:28,773 I am officially doing a deep dive 368 00:18:28,858 --> 00:18:30,024 into the blue ribbon killer. 369 00:18:30,110 --> 00:18:31,442 That's my girl! 370 00:18:31,528 --> 00:18:32,485 - It's too good to pass up. 371 00:18:32,570 --> 00:18:33,945 Okay, here are the details. 372 00:18:33,988 --> 00:18:36,614 The victims were all female, brunette, 373 00:18:36,699 --> 00:18:39,951 18 to 23, all found missing jewelry, and wearing, 374 00:18:40,036 --> 00:18:41,452 Blue ribbons? 375 00:18:41,496 --> 00:18:42,370 - Exactly. 376 00:18:43,331 --> 00:18:45,790 Oh, you know Henry's mom was a hoarder. 377 00:18:46,835 --> 00:18:48,000 You know maybe I can dig through her newspapers 378 00:18:48,086 --> 00:18:49,585 before tossing them. 379 00:18:49,629 --> 00:18:50,795 There might be some information. 380 00:18:50,839 --> 00:18:52,380 - Oh shoot, I gotta go. 381 00:18:52,465 --> 00:18:53,798 Big date tonight. 382 00:18:53,842 --> 00:18:55,216 - Have fun. 383 00:18:55,301 --> 00:18:56,509 And be careful. 384 00:18:56,594 --> 00:18:57,468 Feel free to check my location later 385 00:18:57,512 --> 00:18:58,719 just in case, you know, 386 00:18:58,805 --> 00:18:59,846 it's in a ditch or something. 387 00:18:59,931 --> 00:19:01,264 - That's comforting. 388 00:19:01,349 --> 00:19:02,140 Bye. 389 00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:13,234 Henry? 390 00:19:19,826 --> 00:19:20,658 Hello? 391 00:19:24,581 --> 00:19:25,454 Henry? 392 00:20:31,022 --> 00:20:31,896 What? 393 00:20:52,001 --> 00:20:53,584 - I was outside, I heard a scream. 394 00:20:54,796 --> 00:20:56,128 Is everything okay? 395 00:20:56,214 --> 00:20:58,089 - Someone threw something through the upstairs window. 396 00:20:58,132 --> 00:20:58,923 - Stay here. 397 00:21:12,814 --> 00:21:14,230 Whoever it was must have ran off. 398 00:21:14,274 --> 00:21:15,106 I'll call it in. 399 00:21:34,335 --> 00:21:35,459 - Prom queen killer? 400 00:21:37,255 --> 00:21:38,796 What is that supposed to mean? 401 00:21:42,468 --> 00:21:43,092 - Come on. 402 00:21:43,177 --> 00:21:43,968 We can wait at my house. 403 00:21:59,819 --> 00:22:00,985 - Thanks for talking to the officers. 404 00:22:01,029 --> 00:22:02,153 - Of course. 405 00:22:02,196 --> 00:22:03,279 It's kind of what I do. 406 00:22:03,323 --> 00:22:05,614 - Also, swim champion. 407 00:22:05,658 --> 00:22:07,533 Very impressive, officer Turner. 408 00:22:08,536 --> 00:22:10,828 - Yeah, I mean it's not running down the field 409 00:22:10,872 --> 00:22:12,997 with a thundering crowd, but I like it. 410 00:22:13,916 --> 00:22:15,166 It's where I feel at peace. 411 00:22:16,252 --> 00:22:17,084 - Me too. 412 00:22:19,630 --> 00:22:23,466 So, you went to high school with Henry. 413 00:22:23,551 --> 00:22:25,217 Did you know Lily Brooks? 414 00:22:25,303 --> 00:22:26,802 - The town's greatest tragedy. 415 00:22:26,888 --> 00:22:28,346 What happened? 416 00:22:28,431 --> 00:22:29,680 - Henry didn't tell you? 417 00:22:31,601 --> 00:22:33,642 She had an accident on prom night. 418 00:22:33,686 --> 00:22:35,311 Drowned in the high school pool. 419 00:22:36,731 --> 00:22:37,688 - Oh my god. 420 00:22:38,816 --> 00:22:39,940 I do laps there. 421 00:22:40,026 --> 00:22:41,984 Yeah, me too. 422 00:22:42,028 --> 00:22:43,319 - The prom queen killer. 423 00:22:44,739 --> 00:22:46,322 Do people think Henry killed her? 424 00:22:46,366 --> 00:22:47,198 - No. 425 00:22:52,747 --> 00:22:55,081 Sorry, I feel weird talking about it with you. 426 00:22:55,166 --> 00:22:56,540 Maybe Henry should explain. 427 00:22:57,585 --> 00:22:59,919 - Henry's not really the sharing type. 428 00:23:00,004 --> 00:23:01,712 - I mean, people had their theories, 429 00:23:01,756 --> 00:23:03,547 and yes, there was a time when Henry 430 00:23:03,591 --> 00:23:06,217 was the prime suspect, but in the end, 431 00:23:06,260 --> 00:23:08,010 it was ruled an accident. 432 00:23:08,096 --> 00:23:10,221 - But obviously some people think it was him 433 00:23:10,264 --> 00:23:12,390 and now we're back and, 434 00:23:12,433 --> 00:23:14,767 - maybe it's hard for people to accept. 435 00:23:14,852 --> 00:23:18,646 Listen, me and Henry ran in completely different crowds 436 00:23:18,731 --> 00:23:21,023 but I never thought he was capable of, 437 00:23:21,067 --> 00:23:22,525 Henry! 438 00:23:22,568 --> 00:23:23,359 - Hey. 439 00:23:23,403 --> 00:23:24,235 Are you okay? 440 00:23:25,446 --> 00:23:26,445 Are you hurt? 441 00:23:26,531 --> 00:23:27,363 - I'm fine. 442 00:23:28,449 --> 00:23:29,824 The police, Oliver, 443 00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:31,534 I think it was a one off prank. 444 00:23:31,577 --> 00:23:32,410 - Thank, man. 445 00:23:33,371 --> 00:23:35,079 I'm glad you were there. 446 00:23:35,164 --> 00:23:36,330 - Of course. 447 00:23:36,374 --> 00:23:38,874 If you guys need anything, just let me know. 448 00:23:40,461 --> 00:23:42,586 - Come on, let's get you home. 449 00:26:16,450 --> 00:26:17,575 What are you doing? 450 00:26:18,911 --> 00:26:21,245 - How come you never told me about Lily Brooks 451 00:26:21,289 --> 00:26:22,580 in the five years we've been together? 452 00:26:22,665 --> 00:26:24,582 - When is a good time to bring up 453 00:26:24,667 --> 00:26:26,166 your dead high school girlfriend? 454 00:26:28,129 --> 00:26:29,920 Where did you find this? 455 00:26:30,006 --> 00:26:30,963 - Henry. 456 00:26:31,048 --> 00:26:32,131 This is a major detail of your life 457 00:26:32,216 --> 00:26:33,882 that you neglected to share! 458 00:26:36,345 --> 00:26:37,845 Come on, you can talk to me. 459 00:26:39,724 --> 00:26:41,223 - She disappeared during prom. 460 00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:44,768 Hit her head and drowned in the pool. 461 00:26:44,854 --> 00:26:45,728 End of story. 462 00:26:45,771 --> 00:26:47,271 - And yet the town thinks that- 463 00:26:47,315 --> 00:26:48,772 - people are cruel, Mack. 464 00:26:49,817 --> 00:26:51,066 God. 465 00:26:51,152 --> 00:26:53,777 You know, I thought I had stayed away long enough 466 00:26:53,863 --> 00:26:55,571 for people to move past it, but... 467 00:26:59,744 --> 00:27:01,994 Look, I'm sorry I didn't tell you. 468 00:27:03,164 --> 00:27:05,456 It's not something I particularly like rehashing. 469 00:27:10,171 --> 00:27:12,296 - You wanna talk about it? 470 00:27:13,841 --> 00:27:15,466 - There's nothing to talk about. 471 00:27:15,509 --> 00:27:17,468 It was a tragic accident. 472 00:27:20,848 --> 00:27:24,433 Come to bed. 473 00:27:24,477 --> 00:27:26,310 - I'll be up in a sec. 474 00:27:57,343 --> 00:27:59,134 Good morning, Andie. 475 00:27:59,178 --> 00:28:00,386 Andie? 476 00:28:00,471 --> 00:28:02,846 - My mom doesn't want me talking to you anymore. 477 00:28:02,932 --> 00:28:04,181 I can talk when she's gone. 478 00:28:26,872 --> 00:28:28,706 Sorry about earlier. 479 00:28:28,791 --> 00:28:30,040 - What's going on? 480 00:28:30,084 --> 00:28:31,500 - My parents can be really strict 481 00:28:31,585 --> 00:28:34,169 and they said something about your husband. 482 00:28:35,923 --> 00:28:37,464 - I see. 483 00:28:37,550 --> 00:28:39,341 - I still wanna be friends, but 484 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,344 I don't wanna lie to my mom. 485 00:28:43,347 --> 00:28:44,596 - It's all right, Andie. 486 00:28:44,682 --> 00:28:46,724 You have nothing to be sorry for. 487 00:28:46,767 --> 00:28:48,767 Now go work on that backstroke. 488 00:28:48,853 --> 00:28:49,685 - See ya. 489 00:28:50,896 --> 00:28:51,729 - See ya. 490 00:29:02,116 --> 00:29:04,199 I found a ton of stuff on the blue ribbon killer 491 00:29:04,285 --> 00:29:05,200 from back then. 492 00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:08,454 Check this out. 493 00:29:08,539 --> 00:29:11,540 Victim one, Cecilia Harkins, 19. 494 00:29:12,585 --> 00:29:14,960 Two, Angelica masters, 17. 495 00:29:15,045 --> 00:29:16,712 - She was even on the swim team. 496 00:29:18,132 --> 00:29:20,507 - And third, Brianna park. 497 00:29:25,556 --> 00:29:26,597 Weird. 498 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,807 Have you seen that photo of us? 499 00:29:28,893 --> 00:29:30,350 I swear I put it up. 500 00:29:30,394 --> 00:29:34,563 - So Henry might have killed his high school sweetheart? 501 00:29:34,607 --> 00:29:35,773 - No. 502 00:29:35,816 --> 00:29:37,733 No, that was an accident. 503 00:29:37,777 --> 00:29:39,943 Henry obviously had nothing to do with it. 504 00:29:41,864 --> 00:29:42,738 Wait. 505 00:29:43,783 --> 00:29:44,907 - Please and thank you? 506 00:29:46,035 --> 00:29:48,076 - Wait, wait, look at this. 507 00:29:48,162 --> 00:29:48,952 Brunette, 508 00:29:50,414 --> 00:29:51,246 young, 509 00:29:53,375 --> 00:29:54,124 drowning. 510 00:29:57,004 --> 00:29:58,629 What if Lily Brooks was the first victim 511 00:29:58,672 --> 00:30:00,589 of the blue ribbon killer? 512 00:30:00,633 --> 00:30:03,383 Mack, are you feeling okay? 513 00:30:03,469 --> 00:30:04,384 - Exactly. 514 00:30:05,346 --> 00:30:06,220 I feel it. 515 00:30:08,682 --> 00:30:11,600 Lily fits the profile and the method. 516 00:30:13,729 --> 00:30:15,103 This was an outside killer. 517 00:30:16,190 --> 00:30:17,564 Henry had nothing to do with it. 518 00:30:17,650 --> 00:30:19,983 - Okay, Mack, all these murders happened months later 519 00:30:20,069 --> 00:30:21,777 and all in close succession. 520 00:30:21,821 --> 00:30:23,111 - The first doesn't always fit the pattern 521 00:30:23,197 --> 00:30:24,363 because it creates the pattern. 522 00:30:24,448 --> 00:30:27,658 June, my spidey sense is tingling off the charts. 523 00:30:27,743 --> 00:30:30,327 If we can prove that Lily's death 524 00:30:30,371 --> 00:30:32,496 was connected to this serial killer, 525 00:30:32,540 --> 00:30:33,705 we can clear Henry's name. 526 00:30:33,791 --> 00:30:36,625 - Not to mention bring some much needed closure 527 00:30:36,669 --> 00:30:38,418 to these poor people? 528 00:30:38,504 --> 00:30:39,920 - Yes, of course that. 529 00:30:40,005 --> 00:30:40,796 Come on. 530 00:30:40,881 --> 00:30:42,214 We need to go see my neighbor. 531 00:30:42,299 --> 00:30:43,715 Is he cute? 532 00:30:43,801 --> 00:30:44,800 Who is this? 533 00:30:44,885 --> 00:30:46,134 - He went to high school with Henry 534 00:30:46,220 --> 00:30:47,177 and he's a cop. 535 00:30:54,728 --> 00:30:55,602 - Well, hello. 536 00:30:56,605 --> 00:30:58,814 - Well hello to you too. 537 00:30:59,859 --> 00:31:01,817 - Oliver, this is my podcast producer June. 538 00:31:01,861 --> 00:31:03,694 - Oh, the pleasure's all mine. 539 00:31:03,737 --> 00:31:06,113 We might have a lead on the blue ribbon killer. 540 00:31:06,198 --> 00:31:07,406 - Oh? 541 00:31:07,491 --> 00:31:09,533 - Is it possible that Lily Brooks was connected 542 00:31:09,577 --> 00:31:10,951 to the blue ribbon killer? 543 00:31:11,036 --> 00:31:12,870 - Interesting theory. 544 00:31:12,913 --> 00:31:13,996 Let me ask around the precinct, 545 00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:15,289 see what I can find out. 546 00:31:16,208 --> 00:31:16,999 Thank you. 547 00:31:17,084 --> 00:31:17,749 We're also looking into Lily, 548 00:31:17,835 --> 00:31:19,376 if you remember anything. 549 00:31:19,420 --> 00:31:21,253 - I only knew her from a distance, but 550 00:31:21,338 --> 00:31:23,547 her cousin Chelsea Brooks still lives in town. 551 00:31:23,591 --> 00:31:24,548 They were pretty close. 552 00:31:24,633 --> 00:31:26,049 - Perfect, thanks. 553 00:31:26,093 --> 00:31:28,343 - Yup, we can't thank you enough, officer. 554 00:31:28,429 --> 00:31:32,556 And you should come to our live taping. 555 00:31:33,601 --> 00:31:34,474 - I would love to. 556 00:31:35,436 --> 00:31:36,643 - Great. 557 00:31:36,729 --> 00:31:38,020 If you give me your info I can email you a ticket. 558 00:31:42,443 --> 00:31:43,191 - Great. 559 00:31:43,235 --> 00:31:44,234 - Great. 560 00:31:44,278 --> 00:31:45,152 - See you then. 561 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:46,945 - Bye. 562 00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:52,034 Why would you do that? 563 00:32:13,349 --> 00:32:15,098 - Did you move my hormones? 564 00:32:16,518 --> 00:32:17,392 Nope. 565 00:32:52,304 --> 00:32:53,136 - Oliver and June are coming 566 00:32:53,222 --> 00:32:54,805 to my birthday dinner together. 567 00:32:58,310 --> 00:32:59,601 You do realize that my birthday dinner's 568 00:32:59,687 --> 00:33:00,602 on Friday, right? 569 00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:05,941 I had a breakthrough today. 570 00:33:08,821 --> 00:33:11,446 On the piece I'm doing on the blue ribbon killer? 571 00:33:11,532 --> 00:33:12,197 - What? 572 00:33:12,282 --> 00:33:13,532 - The blue ribbon killer. 573 00:33:13,617 --> 00:33:15,993 Might even make it a feature for the live taping. 574 00:33:16,036 --> 00:33:16,827 - No, you're not. 575 00:33:18,122 --> 00:33:19,538 - Henry, if Lily is related to this 576 00:33:19,623 --> 00:33:20,455 then I can clear your name. 577 00:33:20,541 --> 00:33:22,040 - Please? 578 00:33:22,084 --> 00:33:23,041 - But don't you think it's strange that all of these women 579 00:33:23,127 --> 00:33:24,459 were drowned and- - maybe you should 580 00:33:24,503 --> 00:33:26,253 take a break from the podcast. 581 00:33:27,172 --> 00:33:28,255 - Excuse me? 582 00:33:28,340 --> 00:33:30,173 - Your wild ideas aren't gonna bring anyone 583 00:33:30,217 --> 00:33:31,675 back from the dead. 584 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,677 It's just for cheap entertainment. 585 00:33:43,731 --> 00:33:45,272 Look. 586 00:33:45,357 --> 00:33:46,857 I have a big day tomorrow. 587 00:33:49,778 --> 00:33:51,528 Please, can we just get some sleep? 588 00:34:11,508 --> 00:34:13,383 - Cheap entertainment. 589 00:34:13,427 --> 00:34:15,552 Tell that to Michelle McNamara. 590 00:34:15,596 --> 00:34:17,179 Thanks so much for catching that serial killer 591 00:34:17,264 --> 00:34:19,639 no one else could find. 592 00:34:24,438 --> 00:34:25,479 Mmm, gotcha. 593 00:34:38,077 --> 00:34:40,077 Thanks for meeting us, Chelsea. 594 00:34:40,162 --> 00:34:42,037 Can we record this? 595 00:34:42,122 --> 00:34:42,746 - Fine. 596 00:34:46,126 --> 00:34:47,417 Can't believe I'm sitting across 597 00:34:47,461 --> 00:34:49,753 from the woman that married Henry Meyer. 598 00:34:51,423 --> 00:34:52,672 - Thanks for your help. 599 00:34:52,758 --> 00:34:53,757 We really wanted to make sure 600 00:34:53,842 --> 00:34:55,258 that all of Lily's story gets told. 601 00:34:55,344 --> 00:34:56,676 - Well be sure to include the part 602 00:34:56,762 --> 00:34:58,512 where your husband broke her heart. 603 00:35:00,307 --> 00:35:02,599 Prom night, she told me she was gonna end it. 604 00:35:03,936 --> 00:35:05,644 Now I know what she meant. 605 00:35:05,729 --> 00:35:06,603 - What do you mean? 606 00:35:08,273 --> 00:35:09,731 - The truth needs to come out. 607 00:35:09,817 --> 00:35:12,609 That is the only reason I'm talking to you. 608 00:35:12,653 --> 00:35:13,568 Henry killed her. 609 00:35:17,658 --> 00:35:19,783 Lily committed suicide because of him. 610 00:35:19,868 --> 00:35:20,492 - Suicide? 611 00:35:20,577 --> 00:35:21,451 But the newspapers- 612 00:35:21,537 --> 00:35:22,953 - were wrong. 613 00:35:23,038 --> 00:35:24,412 Her parents didn't want anyone knowing 614 00:35:24,498 --> 00:35:26,706 that she was on antidepressants for months. 615 00:35:27,668 --> 00:35:29,501 Maybe because her hotshot boyfriend 616 00:35:29,586 --> 00:35:31,128 couldn't stay faithful to her. 617 00:35:33,465 --> 00:35:36,007 Prom night, she took a handful of pills 618 00:35:36,093 --> 00:35:37,300 and went for a swim. 619 00:35:46,311 --> 00:35:48,145 - So much for my intuition. 620 00:35:50,315 --> 00:35:52,983 - Do you think Henry knows it was a suicide? 621 00:35:53,026 --> 00:35:55,152 - It's probably why he doesn't want to talk about it. 622 00:35:57,865 --> 00:35:59,322 He's changed, okay? 623 00:35:59,366 --> 00:36:00,991 I didn't say anything. 624 00:36:04,246 --> 00:36:04,953 Sorry. 625 00:36:06,957 --> 00:36:07,873 Don't worry about it. 626 00:36:07,958 --> 00:36:09,457 - Well maybe Henry's right. 627 00:36:10,377 --> 00:36:12,294 I should take a break from all this. 628 00:36:12,379 --> 00:36:13,503 - Um, no. 629 00:36:14,339 --> 00:36:15,922 Downloads are up 15k this week 630 00:36:16,008 --> 00:36:18,258 and the live taping is sold out. 631 00:36:19,386 --> 00:36:22,596 Look, we need to give the people what they want. 632 00:36:22,681 --> 00:36:25,140 And what they want is you and murder. 633 00:36:28,312 --> 00:36:29,144 Beautiful. 634 00:36:41,450 --> 00:36:43,366 Ow. 635 00:36:43,410 --> 00:36:44,993 Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow. 636 00:36:47,581 --> 00:36:48,371 Man. 637 00:36:50,626 --> 00:36:51,458 Ah, ow. 638 00:37:23,992 --> 00:37:28,286 ♪ I waited for you in the passenger seat ♪ 639 00:37:28,372 --> 00:37:32,582 ♪ there's only so far I can ride in your dreams ♪ 640 00:37:32,626 --> 00:37:36,419 ♪ while you were chasing everything else but me ♪ 641 00:37:36,463 --> 00:37:38,588 ♪ I'm starting to break ♪ 642 00:37:38,632 --> 00:37:41,508 ♪ out from your brain ♪ 643 00:37:41,593 --> 00:37:45,595 ♪ see I finally opened up my eyes ♪ 644 00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:48,431 ♪ and saw me coming back to life ♪ 645 00:37:48,517 --> 00:37:49,975 Hey, this is Henry Meyer. 646 00:37:50,060 --> 00:37:51,268 Leave me a message. 647 00:37:52,229 --> 00:37:54,437 - Hey, just checking in. 648 00:37:54,523 --> 00:37:55,939 Hope the case is going well. 649 00:37:56,858 --> 00:37:57,732 I love you. 650 00:38:12,082 --> 00:38:14,207 Hey guys, I'm here in gorgeous Clarksville. 651 00:38:14,293 --> 00:38:15,542 I just wanted to do a little teaser 652 00:38:15,627 --> 00:38:17,168 for the upcoming live taping. 653 00:38:17,254 --> 00:38:18,962 Now I am in the midst of a deep dive 654 00:38:19,047 --> 00:38:21,131 into the blue ribbon killer. 655 00:38:21,174 --> 00:38:24,134 The victims were all young women and all drowned. 656 00:38:28,515 --> 00:38:29,764 Do you guys ever just have a day 657 00:38:29,808 --> 00:38:31,141 where you feel a little crazy? 658 00:38:31,226 --> 00:38:32,517 Like the truth should be one thing 659 00:38:32,561 --> 00:38:34,811 but instead it's something completely different? 660 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,485 Really needed this love right now, guys. 661 00:38:42,571 --> 00:38:44,821 Thank you, super excited to see all of you 662 00:38:44,865 --> 00:38:45,822 at the live taping. 663 00:39:28,992 --> 00:39:31,368 Well, a happy birthday to me. 664 00:39:37,918 --> 00:39:38,708 Boo! 665 00:39:38,752 --> 00:39:39,501 - Oh my god! 666 00:39:42,255 --> 00:39:43,004 - Happy birthday. 667 00:39:44,883 --> 00:39:47,634 Oh, what, you thought I forgot? 668 00:39:48,845 --> 00:39:49,677 - Maybe. 669 00:39:56,311 --> 00:39:57,727 - Happy birthday. 670 00:39:58,897 --> 00:39:59,896 Make a wish. 671 00:40:07,155 --> 00:40:12,200 Oh. 672 00:40:41,982 --> 00:40:44,107 ♪ Do you think about me ♪ 673 00:40:44,192 --> 00:40:45,859 ♪ when it's dark outside ♪ 674 00:40:45,944 --> 00:40:48,278 ♪ me when there's no upside ♪ 675 00:40:48,321 --> 00:40:51,030 ♪ no prince or shining knight ♪ 676 00:40:51,116 --> 00:40:53,283 Cheese! 677 00:40:56,288 --> 00:40:59,581 - So Oliver, how long have you been a cop? 678 00:40:59,624 --> 00:41:02,250 - I joined the force about eight years ago. 679 00:41:02,294 --> 00:41:03,793 My father was a police officer 680 00:41:03,837 --> 00:41:08,965 and his father and his father and his father. 681 00:41:09,050 --> 00:41:10,091 - Quite the Alpha. 682 00:41:11,386 --> 00:41:12,385 I never knew. 683 00:41:13,513 --> 00:41:16,806 - If I can intervene in a crisis or right a wrong, 684 00:41:16,850 --> 00:41:18,141 there's no higher calling. 685 00:41:19,853 --> 00:41:21,811 But I don't serve in Clarksville. 686 00:41:21,897 --> 00:41:24,397 My father's jurisdiction isn't far. 687 00:41:24,483 --> 00:41:27,317 I mostly lived there after my parents split. 688 00:41:28,278 --> 00:41:30,236 - Hmm, it must have been hard. 689 00:41:31,323 --> 00:41:33,156 My parents broke up when I was eight. 690 00:41:37,204 --> 00:41:39,787 - So June, how long have you been working 691 00:41:39,831 --> 00:41:40,872 as a producer? 692 00:41:40,957 --> 00:41:42,499 - I was actually in publishing full time 693 00:41:42,584 --> 00:41:43,541 until last year. 694 00:41:43,627 --> 00:41:46,336 And then the show started taking off. 695 00:41:46,421 --> 00:41:47,378 - June's creative direction 696 00:41:47,422 --> 00:41:49,172 really made the show what it was. 697 00:41:49,216 --> 00:41:50,632 - Oh, stop. 698 00:41:50,717 --> 00:41:53,259 I couldn't get this one to write her bestselling trilogy 699 00:41:53,345 --> 00:41:56,387 so this was the next best thing. 700 00:41:56,473 --> 00:41:59,349 - Well, why make anything up when 701 00:41:59,392 --> 00:42:01,434 the real thing is better than the story? 702 00:42:02,562 --> 00:42:04,020 - Oh, let me help you with that. 703 00:42:04,064 --> 00:42:07,440 Oh, no, no, no, we got it, sit. 704 00:42:12,447 --> 00:42:13,655 - Do you like to travel? 705 00:42:13,740 --> 00:42:14,906 - Oh my god, I love it. 706 00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:18,326 Last year I went to Johannesburg, Austria, 707 00:42:18,411 --> 00:42:20,286 Costa Rica and Vietnam. 708 00:42:20,372 --> 00:42:22,163 Wow. 709 00:42:22,249 --> 00:42:24,666 The furthest I've been is across the border. 710 00:42:24,709 --> 00:42:25,875 - It's not for everyone. 711 00:42:25,961 --> 00:42:28,211 I just get kind of antsy when I stay in one place 712 00:42:28,296 --> 00:42:29,337 for too long. 713 00:42:29,381 --> 00:42:30,838 You know what I mean? 714 00:42:30,924 --> 00:42:32,006 - I like it here. 715 00:42:32,092 --> 00:42:34,050 Nice people, great place to raise a family. 716 00:42:34,135 --> 00:42:37,595 - Oh, kids are definitely not in the cards for me. 717 00:42:37,681 --> 00:42:38,805 Zero maternal vibe. 718 00:42:42,811 --> 00:42:44,519 - I was thinking of getting a dog. 719 00:42:46,565 --> 00:42:47,480 - I'm allergic. 720 00:42:49,276 --> 00:42:52,277 Mack, I was definitely thinking of a couple 721 00:42:52,362 --> 00:42:53,152 different ideas for our new, 722 00:42:53,238 --> 00:42:54,153 - hey. 723 00:42:55,407 --> 00:42:57,824 Never really thanked you for looking out for my mom and 724 00:43:01,121 --> 00:43:02,412 I know it meant a lot to her. 725 00:43:02,497 --> 00:43:03,413 - It was my pleasure. 726 00:43:03,498 --> 00:43:04,872 She was a wonderful woman. 727 00:43:07,586 --> 00:43:09,877 She was really proud of you. 728 00:43:12,549 --> 00:43:15,049 I love what you've done with the place. 729 00:43:15,135 --> 00:43:16,050 - Yeah. 730 00:43:16,094 --> 00:43:17,427 Yeah, I love this house. 731 00:43:18,597 --> 00:43:19,429 Pulled me back. 732 00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:21,389 I can't take the credit. 733 00:43:21,433 --> 00:43:23,308 It's all Mack. 734 00:43:23,393 --> 00:43:25,935 - Yes, thank you very much. 735 00:43:26,021 --> 00:43:29,147 And, found a couple of gems. 736 00:43:29,232 --> 00:43:31,608 - Oh my god, Mack, those are gorgeous. 737 00:43:31,693 --> 00:43:33,026 Are those from Henry? 738 00:43:33,111 --> 00:43:35,820 - Well, Henry gave me a great surprise this morning 739 00:43:35,905 --> 00:43:38,740 but these are from Henry's mother. 740 00:43:38,825 --> 00:43:40,450 Aw, those are so cute. 741 00:43:40,493 --> 00:43:41,284 I mean it, you- 742 00:43:41,328 --> 00:43:42,201 - take 'em off. 743 00:43:44,623 --> 00:43:45,330 - What, I... 744 00:43:45,415 --> 00:43:47,415 - Mack, take 'em off, now! 745 00:44:00,055 --> 00:44:01,763 - You really embarrassed me tonight. 746 00:44:05,518 --> 00:44:06,142 - I'm sorry. 747 00:44:06,227 --> 00:44:07,226 I just think don't think 748 00:44:07,312 --> 00:44:09,062 you should have put those earrings on. 749 00:44:11,232 --> 00:44:12,273 - They're not your mother's. 750 00:44:12,359 --> 00:44:14,025 Whose are they? 751 00:44:14,110 --> 00:44:15,693 Oh my god, are these Evelyn's? 752 00:44:15,779 --> 00:44:17,779 - How many times do I have to tell you 753 00:44:17,822 --> 00:44:19,656 I am not sleeping with Evelyn? 754 00:44:19,741 --> 00:44:20,823 - Get out! 755 00:44:20,909 --> 00:44:21,658 I don't even wanna be near you right now. 756 00:44:21,701 --> 00:44:24,243 - Ah, you, I can explain. 757 00:44:24,329 --> 00:44:25,828 Just, I need time! 758 00:44:25,914 --> 00:44:28,289 - What does that even mean? 759 00:44:28,333 --> 00:44:28,998 - Grr! 760 00:44:31,002 --> 00:44:34,671 Please, can we please stop? 761 00:44:34,756 --> 00:44:36,422 I have to be at court first thing. 762 00:44:36,508 --> 00:44:37,882 - You're unbelievable. 763 00:44:38,843 --> 00:44:40,510 - You know, I'll sleep on the couch. 764 00:44:51,189 --> 00:44:51,938 - Ugh. 765 00:45:42,365 --> 00:45:43,197 What? 766 00:46:48,890 --> 00:46:49,847 Hey. 767 00:46:50,850 --> 00:46:52,767 Thanks again for coming the other night. 768 00:46:52,852 --> 00:46:53,643 - Sure. 769 00:46:53,728 --> 00:46:54,435 It was fun. 770 00:46:54,521 --> 00:46:55,436 - Yeah. 771 00:46:58,191 --> 00:46:58,981 So. 772 00:46:59,859 --> 00:47:01,901 Where do you go so late at night? 773 00:47:03,488 --> 00:47:05,571 - How long have you been waiting to ask me that? 774 00:47:06,741 --> 00:47:08,533 Get in, I'll show you. 775 00:47:08,618 --> 00:47:09,992 - Really? - Yeah. 776 00:47:21,381 --> 00:47:22,630 ♪ Come with me ♪ 777 00:47:22,715 --> 00:47:26,175 ♪ let us go to a place they couldn't find yet ♪ 778 00:47:26,261 --> 00:47:28,177 ♪ no one really mind it ♪ 779 00:47:28,263 --> 00:47:30,346 You have the keys to the school? 780 00:47:30,390 --> 00:47:32,765 Perks of being an officer of the law. 781 00:47:34,602 --> 00:47:36,185 - Wow. 782 00:47:36,271 --> 00:47:37,520 - I get permission to come up here 783 00:47:37,605 --> 00:47:38,855 whenever I want. 784 00:47:38,898 --> 00:47:41,107 Usually after a late swim, 785 00:47:41,192 --> 00:47:42,692 this is my place to get away. 786 00:47:42,777 --> 00:47:43,651 - From what? 787 00:47:44,612 --> 00:47:45,862 All the noise. 788 00:47:46,739 --> 00:47:47,655 It's peaceful. 789 00:47:50,410 --> 00:47:51,200 Hang on. 790 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,082 Oh. 791 00:47:58,167 --> 00:47:59,375 Oh, I can't. 792 00:47:59,419 --> 00:48:00,418 - Come on. 793 00:48:00,503 --> 00:48:02,920 - Well, Henry and I, we're trying to, 794 00:48:03,006 --> 00:48:05,339 you know what, maybe just a splash. 795 00:48:05,425 --> 00:48:06,173 - Yeah? 796 00:48:09,971 --> 00:48:12,179 - Oh, oh that's enough. 797 00:48:12,223 --> 00:48:13,723 Oh, it smells so good. 798 00:48:21,024 --> 00:48:23,900 So, how are things going with June? 799 00:48:25,862 --> 00:48:27,570 - She's a great person 800 00:48:27,655 --> 00:48:29,238 but she's not the one. 801 00:48:30,116 --> 00:48:31,073 - The one? 802 00:48:32,952 --> 00:48:34,911 I didn't know you were such a romantic. 803 00:48:35,997 --> 00:48:37,580 You really believe in that? 804 00:48:37,624 --> 00:48:38,998 - Of course. 805 00:48:39,083 --> 00:48:40,750 None of us are perfect, let's be honest, 806 00:48:40,793 --> 00:48:44,211 but there's someone out there that's perfect for us. 807 00:48:46,591 --> 00:48:49,926 I bet you spent a lot of time alone as a kid 808 00:48:50,887 --> 00:48:53,262 wondering if any of it was real. 809 00:48:55,308 --> 00:48:56,349 It can be, Mack. 810 00:48:57,644 --> 00:48:58,768 - What is real anyway? 811 00:49:00,772 --> 00:49:02,438 - Trouble on the Meyer household? 812 00:49:04,609 --> 00:49:05,566 - This move. 813 00:49:06,778 --> 00:49:07,610 It hasn't been easy. 814 00:49:08,905 --> 00:49:10,780 But it's nice to have an outside ear. 815 00:49:11,908 --> 00:49:13,783 Thank you for listening. 816 00:49:13,826 --> 00:49:14,700 - Anytime. 817 00:49:15,662 --> 00:49:18,287 - So, any leads on the broken window? 818 00:49:19,999 --> 00:49:22,083 - We think it could possibly be linked 819 00:49:22,168 --> 00:49:24,627 to those messages that you're getting online. 820 00:49:24,671 --> 00:49:26,712 Or just some kid. 821 00:49:27,674 --> 00:49:29,757 - Henry's not very popular around here. 822 00:49:33,054 --> 00:49:33,928 - Mack. 823 00:49:35,431 --> 00:49:37,682 I'm not gonna let anything bad happen to you. 824 00:49:38,685 --> 00:49:40,810 If you need anything, you just let me know. 825 00:49:45,191 --> 00:49:48,442 - The first victim for a serial killer sets the pattern. 826 00:49:48,528 --> 00:49:51,487 Often triggered by a very specific event, 827 00:49:51,531 --> 00:49:52,321 a crime of passion. 828 00:49:54,242 --> 00:49:56,075 When Dennis Rader, the BTK strangler 829 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,827 resurfaced after more than a decade, 830 00:49:57,912 --> 00:49:59,870 he followed the same pattern 831 00:49:59,956 --> 00:50:01,872 which eventually led to his arrest. 832 00:50:03,001 --> 00:50:05,501 Later crimes may be precise and calculating 833 00:50:05,545 --> 00:50:07,211 but always linked to the same passion 834 00:50:07,296 --> 00:50:08,754 that started it all. 835 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,589 Like a first love? 836 00:50:14,387 --> 00:50:15,177 Huh. 837 00:50:20,518 --> 00:50:22,476 Hi, miss brook- - great, now the wife. 838 00:50:23,563 --> 00:50:24,603 I'm sorry? 839 00:50:24,689 --> 00:50:25,604 - Henry? 840 00:50:25,690 --> 00:50:26,522 He just left. 841 00:50:40,580 --> 00:50:41,620 - What did he want? 842 00:50:41,706 --> 00:50:43,205 - For me to stay away from you. 843 00:50:45,710 --> 00:50:48,169 Like I owe Henry Meyer a damn thing. 844 00:50:48,212 --> 00:50:49,670 But men just want what they want 845 00:50:49,756 --> 00:50:50,963 when they want it, right? 846 00:50:53,593 --> 00:50:55,217 - I better. 847 00:50:55,261 --> 00:50:56,302 Oh, right. 848 00:50:57,430 --> 00:50:58,637 I wanted to ask, 849 00:50:58,723 --> 00:51:01,390 did Lily have any other boyfriends or suitors? 850 00:51:01,476 --> 00:51:02,391 - Just Henry. 851 00:51:03,186 --> 00:51:04,393 But after you came by 852 00:51:04,437 --> 00:51:06,479 I did pull everything I had from back then. 853 00:51:06,564 --> 00:51:09,065 You're welcome to take a look for yourself. 854 00:51:24,624 --> 00:51:26,749 Maybe you coming here actually did help. 855 00:51:28,044 --> 00:51:29,835 And she can finally find some peace. 856 00:51:32,924 --> 00:51:34,882 You really remind me so much of her. 857 00:51:39,138 --> 00:51:40,096 That's from Henry. 858 00:51:42,642 --> 00:51:45,559 "Lily, every time I read this I think of you. 859 00:51:46,646 --> 00:51:47,686 Hither, hither, love." 860 00:51:47,730 --> 00:51:50,523 Huh, that's not Henry's handwriting. 861 00:51:59,117 --> 00:51:59,907 What are these? 862 00:52:01,202 --> 00:52:02,952 - Lily's favorite earrings. 863 00:52:03,037 --> 00:52:03,911 A gift from Henry, I think. 864 00:52:03,996 --> 00:52:04,954 She never took 'em off. 865 00:52:06,916 --> 00:52:08,541 That was one thing that always struck me as odd. 866 00:52:08,626 --> 00:52:10,459 She wasn't wearing them when they found her. 867 00:52:10,545 --> 00:52:11,961 - What, oh. 868 00:52:12,046 --> 00:52:13,462 - Careful, please. 869 00:52:15,299 --> 00:52:17,758 - Do you mind if I take a picture of this? 870 00:52:17,802 --> 00:52:18,801 - Be my guest. 871 00:52:23,850 --> 00:52:24,932 - Thank you so much. 872 00:52:26,894 --> 00:52:27,601 I have to go. 873 00:52:42,785 --> 00:52:43,617 Argh! 874 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:48,831 Ugh. 875 00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:08,309 - What are you doing? 876 00:53:08,352 --> 00:53:09,268 - Henry. 877 00:53:10,104 --> 00:53:11,687 What are you doing back? 878 00:53:11,772 --> 00:53:12,688 - Came home early. 879 00:53:13,608 --> 00:53:14,440 Surprise. 880 00:53:17,278 --> 00:53:18,110 Listen. 881 00:53:19,238 --> 00:53:20,529 Now we can finally talk. 882 00:53:20,573 --> 00:53:21,447 - Where were you? 883 00:53:22,617 --> 00:53:23,532 Just now? 884 00:53:23,576 --> 00:53:24,783 - Nowhere. 885 00:53:25,661 --> 00:53:27,203 Mack, what's going on? 886 00:53:27,246 --> 00:53:28,204 What's in your hand? 887 00:53:30,124 --> 00:53:31,457 Mack, what is in your hand? 888 00:53:34,754 --> 00:53:36,837 - Why do you have Lily's earrings? 889 00:53:36,881 --> 00:53:37,838 You were there when she died, 890 00:53:37,924 --> 00:53:38,714 weren't you? - How did you get- 891 00:53:38,758 --> 00:53:39,715 - did you kill Lily? 892 00:53:41,010 --> 00:53:43,219 - Mack, do you hear yourself?! 893 00:53:44,639 --> 00:53:45,971 God, I mean your head, 894 00:53:46,891 --> 00:53:49,016 you go to these crazy dark places! 895 00:53:49,101 --> 00:53:49,725 I mean, like, how could you think that- 896 00:53:49,810 --> 00:53:52,436 - why do you have these? 897 00:53:52,521 --> 00:53:53,979 - You wanna talk about Lily? 898 00:53:54,982 --> 00:53:55,689 Fine! 899 00:53:58,069 --> 00:53:59,401 You know, I gave her those 900 00:53:59,487 --> 00:54:00,903 when we were together. 901 00:54:00,947 --> 00:54:03,239 And she gave them back the night of prom 902 00:54:03,282 --> 00:54:04,323 when she broke up with me. 903 00:54:04,408 --> 00:54:05,824 - And you kept them with you this whole 904 00:54:05,910 --> 00:54:06,575 time? - Yes! 905 00:54:08,996 --> 00:54:10,746 Because I feel responsible. 906 00:54:12,166 --> 00:54:14,917 You know, I don't like to talk about Lily, because, 907 00:54:16,629 --> 00:54:18,003 I was awful. 908 00:54:19,590 --> 00:54:20,673 Look what happened. 909 00:54:22,969 --> 00:54:25,594 You know, when she died, 910 00:54:25,638 --> 00:54:27,596 I hated myself! 911 00:54:29,850 --> 00:54:30,933 I went off to college. 912 00:54:30,977 --> 00:54:34,186 I even abandoned my mom because of it. 913 00:54:36,232 --> 00:54:39,191 But I don't wanna live like this. 914 00:54:40,444 --> 00:54:43,195 I want to start fresh with you. 915 00:54:43,281 --> 00:54:45,072 - How am I just learning all these major things 916 00:54:45,116 --> 00:54:46,740 about your life? 917 00:54:46,784 --> 00:54:48,909 I feel like I hardly know you. 918 00:54:49,829 --> 00:54:52,621 - And then I do the exact same thing to you 919 00:54:52,707 --> 00:54:54,123 that I did to her. - Henry. 920 00:54:57,461 --> 00:54:59,295 - I'm not the perfect husband, Mack. 921 00:55:00,881 --> 00:55:03,549 But I love you with all my heart. 922 00:55:05,303 --> 00:55:08,137 I just don't wanna lose you. 923 00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:28,991 Good luck with the case. 924 00:55:29,035 --> 00:55:29,950 Thanks. 925 00:55:30,036 --> 00:55:32,161 See you in a couple days. 926 00:55:46,344 --> 00:55:47,843 - Ted Bundy's girlfriend. 927 00:55:47,928 --> 00:55:49,803 What was she supposed to do? 928 00:55:49,847 --> 00:55:52,264 I mean, he works late, and maybe 929 00:55:52,350 --> 00:55:54,475 she discovered some weird things about him. 930 00:55:55,770 --> 00:55:58,020 You know, but aren't we all a little weird? 931 00:55:58,105 --> 00:55:59,897 I mean there's the car, the name, 932 00:55:59,982 --> 00:56:01,315 and then the police sketch. 933 00:56:01,359 --> 00:56:03,525 I mean now, there is real proof. 934 00:56:03,569 --> 00:56:05,694 I mean she tells herself it's nothing 935 00:56:05,780 --> 00:56:07,780 but you know, we see what we wanna see. 936 00:56:07,865 --> 00:56:09,323 Before then it's just like, sure 937 00:56:09,408 --> 00:56:11,617 maybe there's just some weird dead high school girlfriend 938 00:56:11,702 --> 00:56:12,785 that you've never heard of- - Mack. 939 00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:13,702 - What? 940 00:56:13,788 --> 00:56:15,579 - That last part didn't happen. 941 00:56:15,664 --> 00:56:17,164 - What do you mean? 942 00:56:17,208 --> 00:56:19,833 - The dead ex-girlfriend part? 943 00:56:19,877 --> 00:56:21,377 That's Henry. 944 00:56:24,673 --> 00:56:25,506 - Sorry. 945 00:56:26,509 --> 00:56:28,634 Let's just pick it up right before then. 946 00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:32,054 - You know what, let's take a break. 947 00:56:35,768 --> 00:56:36,517 - Sorry. 948 00:56:38,562 --> 00:56:41,063 I haven't been sleeping lately. 949 00:56:41,107 --> 00:56:43,440 - Well you better rest up for the live taping. 950 00:56:43,526 --> 00:56:45,192 - Oh, right. 951 00:56:46,695 --> 00:56:47,903 Did you forget? 952 00:56:53,786 --> 00:56:56,453 - Remember those earrings I was wearing on my birthday? 953 00:56:56,539 --> 00:56:57,704 - Henry's mother's? 954 00:56:57,748 --> 00:56:58,664 - Not exactly. 955 00:57:07,341 --> 00:57:08,924 - Dude, what the- - I know. 956 00:57:10,845 --> 00:57:12,428 - Wasn't this the night Lily died? 957 00:57:13,848 --> 00:57:15,973 - He had an explanation, but 958 00:57:16,058 --> 00:57:17,433 I know I caught him in a lie. 959 00:57:18,978 --> 00:57:20,269 You know, for a moment, I thought 960 00:57:20,312 --> 00:57:21,854 Henry could actually be... 961 00:57:24,316 --> 00:57:24,982 What? 962 00:57:25,067 --> 00:57:26,608 - The blue ribbon killer. 963 00:57:27,445 --> 00:57:28,861 - Mack, that is insane. 964 00:57:30,698 --> 00:57:31,572 - June. 965 00:57:32,491 --> 00:57:34,950 What have we learned from the stories? 966 00:57:35,035 --> 00:57:37,119 I mean, serial killers are charming. 967 00:57:37,163 --> 00:57:38,620 They seem like good guys. 968 00:57:39,957 --> 00:57:40,789 Think about it. 969 00:57:41,667 --> 00:57:43,792 Lily threatens to break up with him. 970 00:57:43,836 --> 00:57:45,627 Then he kills her in a crime of passion. 971 00:57:45,713 --> 00:57:47,129 Then he goes on a rampage. 972 00:57:47,173 --> 00:57:48,547 I mean the details of the murders 973 00:57:48,632 --> 00:57:50,090 are the same as Lily's death. 974 00:57:50,176 --> 00:57:51,967 I mean what if coming back here triggers him 975 00:57:52,011 --> 00:57:53,135 and then it starts again? 976 00:57:53,220 --> 00:57:54,261 Then I'm just the dumb wife 977 00:57:54,346 --> 00:57:56,180 who didn't see it coming! 978 00:57:56,265 --> 00:57:57,139 - Calm down. 979 00:57:58,267 --> 00:58:00,142 You are just overwhelmed 980 00:58:00,227 --> 00:58:03,187 with the move, the in vitro. 981 00:58:03,272 --> 00:58:05,814 And you have an Internet stalker, for Christ sakes. 982 00:58:06,734 --> 00:58:09,151 But Henry did not kill Lily, 983 00:58:09,236 --> 00:58:10,194 and he most certainly is not 984 00:58:10,279 --> 00:58:12,321 the blue ribbon killer, you just, 985 00:58:12,406 --> 00:58:13,322 - I just what? 986 00:58:17,411 --> 00:58:19,495 - You just don't trust your husband. 987 00:58:19,580 --> 00:58:22,664 And you're twisting it into this, 988 00:58:22,708 --> 00:58:25,334 this impossible fantasy so you don't have to deal 989 00:58:25,419 --> 00:58:27,461 with what's really going on. 990 00:58:27,546 --> 00:58:28,837 - I'm just trying to be honest. 991 00:58:28,881 --> 00:58:30,339 - Be honest with yourself! 992 00:58:31,592 --> 00:58:33,842 Did you really forgive Henry for sleeping with that girl? 993 00:58:33,928 --> 00:58:35,177 - What does that have to do with it? 994 00:58:35,221 --> 00:58:37,179 - You guys moved back here 995 00:58:37,264 --> 00:58:41,183 to play happy family in the perfect house 996 00:58:41,227 --> 00:58:44,019 when you have rotten beams 997 00:58:44,063 --> 00:58:46,021 all up in your foundation. 998 00:58:46,065 --> 00:58:47,356 And while your work happens to be 999 00:58:47,399 --> 00:58:48,649 both of our meal tickets, 1000 00:58:48,734 --> 00:58:50,984 you hide behind it just as much as you accuse Henry 1001 00:58:51,028 --> 00:58:52,277 of hiding behind his. 1002 00:58:52,363 --> 00:58:53,904 Try facing your problems instead of just 1003 00:58:53,989 --> 00:58:55,531 covering them up with a baby! 1004 00:59:09,338 --> 00:59:10,212 Sorry. 1005 00:59:11,632 --> 00:59:12,339 That was, 1006 00:59:14,218 --> 00:59:15,467 a little more brutal than 1007 00:59:16,845 --> 00:59:18,053 brutal honesty required. 1008 00:59:19,765 --> 00:59:20,722 - No, you're right. 1009 00:59:23,727 --> 00:59:24,560 I'm sorry. 1010 00:59:26,272 --> 00:59:28,188 I've been really self-absorbed lately. 1011 00:59:32,278 --> 00:59:32,901 - Don't worry. 1012 00:59:34,405 --> 00:59:36,196 Tonight's gonna be great. 1013 00:59:37,449 --> 00:59:38,574 - You sure about that? 1014 00:59:40,578 --> 00:59:41,535 - Buck up, cowgirl. 1015 00:59:42,955 --> 00:59:43,870 Your public awaits. 1016 01:00:07,605 --> 01:00:10,772 Au revoir, and watch your back. 1017 01:00:14,361 --> 01:00:15,235 - Hi. 1018 01:00:15,279 --> 01:00:16,778 - Oh my god, I love your shirt. 1019 01:00:16,822 --> 01:00:17,738 - Thank you. 1020 01:00:17,823 --> 01:00:19,823 I love "how I met your murderer". 1021 01:00:19,908 --> 01:00:21,450 My question is, how did you come up 1022 01:00:21,535 --> 01:00:23,368 with your tagline? 1023 01:00:23,454 --> 01:00:24,494 - Oh. 1024 01:00:24,580 --> 01:00:26,413 You know I just thought that au revoir 1025 01:00:26,457 --> 01:00:27,623 was just the coolest, 1026 01:00:27,666 --> 01:00:29,249 most crushing way to say goodbye. 1027 01:00:29,335 --> 01:00:31,960 You know, it has that certain je ne sais quoi. 1028 01:00:32,004 --> 01:00:34,463 And watch your back, well, it's just good advice. 1029 01:00:36,133 --> 01:00:36,923 - Is it true you're working on a story 1030 01:00:37,009 --> 01:00:38,800 about the blue ribbon killer? 1031 01:00:39,678 --> 01:00:40,427 - Maybe. 1032 01:00:40,471 --> 01:00:41,803 - Oh, thank you! 1033 01:00:44,099 --> 01:00:44,973 - My name's Kevin. 1034 01:00:46,018 --> 01:00:46,933 - Hi, Kevin. 1035 01:00:47,019 --> 01:00:49,478 - Hi, I love your work. 1036 01:00:50,648 --> 01:00:52,481 You spend so much time thinking 1037 01:00:52,524 --> 01:00:54,107 and discussing murders. 1038 01:00:54,151 --> 01:00:55,942 Are you able to sleep at night 1039 01:00:55,986 --> 01:00:58,904 or are you just up 24/7? 1040 01:01:00,032 --> 01:01:02,824 - Oh, you know I try to focus on what's real. 1041 01:01:03,911 --> 01:01:04,868 You can't just let your mind 1042 01:01:04,953 --> 01:01:06,411 spiral out of control now, can you? 1043 01:01:07,331 --> 01:01:08,830 - So when is your book coming out? 1044 01:01:08,874 --> 01:01:11,166 I would buy copies for my whole family. 1045 01:01:11,251 --> 01:01:12,125 - Oh. 1046 01:01:13,504 --> 01:01:15,545 Yeah, well we've talked about a book. 1047 01:01:16,632 --> 01:01:19,841 I think maybe I'll get something in the work. 1048 01:01:19,885 --> 01:01:21,093 Too many happening. - Thank you, Kevin. 1049 01:01:21,178 --> 01:01:22,511 Thanks so much. - Goodbye. 1050 01:01:22,596 --> 01:01:23,261 - Thank you. 1051 01:01:23,347 --> 01:01:24,471 - Bye. - Thanks, Kevin. 1052 01:01:25,891 --> 01:01:27,224 - Hi. 1053 01:01:27,309 --> 01:01:28,350 My name is Rebecca. 1054 01:01:28,435 --> 01:01:29,101 - Hi, Rebecca. 1055 01:01:29,186 --> 01:01:30,686 - I'm from Burlington. 1056 01:01:30,729 --> 01:01:33,563 I just wanted to say as a member of 1057 01:01:33,649 --> 01:01:35,440 this community my whole life 1058 01:01:35,526 --> 01:01:38,860 that I speak for myself and others 1059 01:01:38,904 --> 01:01:41,655 when I say that we don't appreciate you 1060 01:01:41,699 --> 01:01:43,323 prancing into our town 1061 01:01:43,409 --> 01:01:47,035 and making a mockery out of our tragic history. 1062 01:01:47,079 --> 01:01:49,371 Many of us are friends of, 1063 01:01:49,415 --> 01:01:51,123 or related to the victims 1064 01:01:51,208 --> 01:01:54,543 that you're using as entertainment. 1065 01:01:54,586 --> 01:01:55,711 Rebecca, 1066 01:01:55,754 --> 01:01:56,336 it was never my intention - you should be 1067 01:01:56,422 --> 01:01:57,629 ashamed of yourself. 1068 01:01:57,715 --> 01:01:59,548 - Okay, thank you so much for coming. 1069 01:01:59,633 --> 01:02:01,216 That's all the time we have. 1070 01:02:01,301 --> 01:02:02,217 Thank you so much. 1071 01:02:09,768 --> 01:02:10,559 - That was 1072 01:02:10,644 --> 01:02:11,351 great - a total disaster? 1073 01:02:11,395 --> 01:02:12,310 - No! 1074 01:02:13,105 --> 01:02:14,479 The fans love you. 1075 01:02:15,441 --> 01:02:17,899 Well, most of them. 1076 01:02:17,943 --> 01:02:19,067 Henry couldn't make it? 1077 01:02:20,195 --> 01:02:22,237 - He's busy, you know. 1078 01:02:22,322 --> 01:02:23,196 - Mack Meyer? 1079 01:02:24,742 --> 01:02:26,283 - Yeah, that's me. 1080 01:02:26,368 --> 01:02:27,325 - See? 1081 01:02:27,411 --> 01:02:29,411 Here, here, I'll put this in the car. 1082 01:02:29,496 --> 01:02:30,537 - Thank you. 1083 01:02:32,458 --> 01:02:33,832 - I'm Troy Kincaid. 1084 01:02:33,917 --> 01:02:35,917 - Hey Troy, thanks for coming tonight. 1085 01:02:36,879 --> 01:02:38,754 - You don't even recognize my name, do you? 1086 01:02:38,797 --> 01:02:40,297 - Oh, I'm sorry, I don't. 1087 01:02:40,382 --> 01:02:41,923 Should I? 1088 01:02:42,009 --> 01:02:43,842 - Neil Kincaid was my little brother. 1089 01:02:44,845 --> 01:02:46,720 He was a victim of a madman! 1090 01:02:46,764 --> 01:02:48,764 You just keep drudging it up. 1091 01:02:48,807 --> 01:02:49,723 Why can't you let him rest in peace? 1092 01:02:49,808 --> 01:02:52,434 - Wait, you sent me those messages? 1093 01:02:52,478 --> 01:02:53,894 And the way you talked about him on your show? 1094 01:02:53,979 --> 01:02:54,770 - Troy. 1095 01:02:54,855 --> 01:02:55,645 - It's just cruel! 1096 01:02:56,523 --> 01:02:58,148 I read about you too, Mack Meyer. 1097 01:02:58,233 --> 01:02:59,858 Married to the prom queen killer! 1098 01:02:59,943 --> 01:03:02,444 - Troy, I am so sorry about your brother 1099 01:03:02,488 --> 01:03:03,153 but I can't change- - drop the knife. 1100 01:03:03,197 --> 01:03:04,821 Drop the knife, buddy. 1101 01:03:04,907 --> 01:03:06,907 Drop the knife and stay calm. 1102 01:03:06,992 --> 01:03:08,033 No one has to get hurt. 1103 01:03:09,745 --> 01:03:10,952 Oh my god! 1104 01:03:10,996 --> 01:03:11,787 No! 1105 01:03:17,294 --> 01:03:18,752 Oliver! 1106 01:03:18,796 --> 01:03:19,461 Stop! 1107 01:03:25,844 --> 01:03:26,635 - Mack? 1108 01:03:27,679 --> 01:03:28,804 Stop! - Oliver! 1109 01:03:30,182 --> 01:03:30,972 Are you okay? 1110 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,400 Are you sure you don't need to go to the hospital? 1111 01:03:42,486 --> 01:03:43,735 - No. 1112 01:03:43,821 --> 01:03:45,403 It's just a graze. 1113 01:03:46,323 --> 01:03:47,823 - Oliver, if you hadn't been there. 1114 01:03:47,866 --> 01:03:49,157 - But I was. 1115 01:03:50,369 --> 01:03:52,786 I told you, I won't let anything bad happen to you. 1116 01:03:55,415 --> 01:03:56,289 Hey. 1117 01:03:57,251 --> 01:03:58,166 You're gonna be okay. 1118 01:04:01,213 --> 01:04:02,838 - I should be saying that to you. 1119 01:04:08,011 --> 01:04:09,970 We need to get you to a first aid kit. 1120 01:04:11,306 --> 01:04:12,430 - Got one in my house. 1121 01:04:22,276 --> 01:04:23,483 Sure you're okay? 1122 01:04:23,569 --> 01:04:24,442 - What? 1123 01:04:25,946 --> 01:04:27,654 Yeah, not a scratch. 1124 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,158 - You know what I mean. 1125 01:04:52,973 --> 01:04:57,642 ♪ Oh what's your soul sayin ♪ 1126 01:04:57,728 --> 01:05:01,396 ♪ oh ♪ 1127 01:05:01,481 --> 01:05:06,610 ♪ is your world changing ♪ 1128 01:05:06,695 --> 01:05:08,403 ♪ oh ♪ 1129 01:05:08,488 --> 01:05:11,531 ♪ what's your soul sayin ♪ 1130 01:05:11,617 --> 01:05:13,158 ♪ oh ♪ 1131 01:05:54,159 --> 01:05:55,116 Leaving? 1132 01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:58,411 - Yeah. 1133 01:05:58,497 --> 01:05:59,829 Just a lot to do today. 1134 01:06:00,791 --> 01:06:02,958 - Don't do that, don't pull away. 1135 01:06:03,961 --> 01:06:04,960 I'm right here. 1136 01:06:06,296 --> 01:06:06,962 - Oliver. 1137 01:06:08,757 --> 01:06:10,465 I just need some time to think. 1138 01:06:12,386 --> 01:06:13,593 - He's cheating on you. 1139 01:06:15,722 --> 01:06:16,638 - Excuse me? 1140 01:06:16,723 --> 01:06:19,015 - I followed Henry the other day. 1141 01:06:19,101 --> 01:06:20,183 He was with a blonde. 1142 01:06:20,268 --> 01:06:21,643 Think he called her Evelyn. 1143 01:06:23,939 --> 01:06:24,980 They were at a hotel. 1144 01:06:28,318 --> 01:06:29,317 - I need to go. 1145 01:06:31,446 --> 01:06:32,529 - Don't you believe me? 1146 01:06:32,614 --> 01:06:34,239 - I don't know what to believe, Oliver. 1147 01:06:34,324 --> 01:06:35,448 I just need to go. 1148 01:07:31,673 --> 01:07:33,256 - Sorry, sorry about that. 1149 01:07:33,341 --> 01:07:34,466 What were you saying? 1150 01:07:34,551 --> 01:07:35,967 - Oh. 1151 01:07:36,011 --> 01:07:38,053 I was talking about how I’m fermenting my own pickles. 1152 01:07:38,138 --> 01:07:40,096 In a salt water and lactic acid brine. 1153 01:07:41,058 --> 01:07:42,223 But the part you really have to look out for though 1154 01:07:42,267 --> 01:07:43,475 is the co2. 1155 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,060 The whole thing could go boom! 1156 01:07:51,568 --> 01:07:52,942 - I'm sorry, can you excuse me for a moment? 1157 01:07:53,028 --> 01:07:54,486 - Yeah, sure, yeah. 1158 01:07:54,571 --> 01:07:56,071 When you get back I'll talk to you about pickled succotash. 1159 01:07:56,114 --> 01:07:56,905 Great! 1160 01:07:56,990 --> 01:07:58,031 - You're gonna wanna hear it. 1161 01:09:15,152 --> 01:09:16,484 Oh no. 1162 01:09:27,789 --> 01:09:29,122 Cecilia Harkins. 1163 01:09:30,125 --> 01:09:31,374 Angelica masters. 1164 01:09:31,459 --> 01:09:32,333 Brianna park. 1165 01:09:33,503 --> 01:09:34,294 Dammit. 1166 01:09:41,136 --> 01:09:42,594 Come on, come on. 1167 01:09:42,679 --> 01:09:44,679 Hey, it's June, you missed me. 1168 01:09:48,643 --> 01:09:49,684 Hey, you. 1169 01:09:49,769 --> 01:09:50,977 - Where are you? 1170 01:09:51,062 --> 01:09:52,270 At the school, just went for a swim. 1171 01:09:52,355 --> 01:09:53,396 What's wrong? 1172 01:09:53,481 --> 01:09:54,230 Are you okay? 1173 01:09:54,316 --> 01:09:55,106 - No. 1174 01:09:55,192 --> 01:09:56,774 I found something. 1175 01:09:56,860 --> 01:09:57,859 It's Henry, and I, 1176 01:09:57,944 --> 01:09:58,693 Come to the school, Mack. 1177 01:09:58,778 --> 01:10:00,195 Everything's gonna be okay. 1178 01:10:07,746 --> 01:10:09,913 - Oh my god, Henry! 1179 01:10:09,998 --> 01:10:12,040 What are you doing here? 1180 01:10:13,835 --> 01:10:14,709 - I lied to you. 1181 01:10:17,005 --> 01:10:21,382 And I came back because this has to come out. 1182 01:10:29,768 --> 01:10:31,059 - Hey! 1183 01:10:31,102 --> 01:10:32,227 I called the cops. 1184 01:10:33,438 --> 01:10:35,438 I know where you work now, buddy, they're on the way. 1185 01:10:35,523 --> 01:10:36,397 - Whoah, take it easy! 1186 01:10:38,193 --> 01:10:39,984 Oh, I recognize you from the other day. 1187 01:10:40,070 --> 01:10:40,860 - Yeah. 1188 01:10:40,946 --> 01:10:42,570 - Look, you don't understand. 1189 01:10:46,409 --> 01:10:48,159 - I've been going back to the beginning. 1190 01:10:48,245 --> 01:10:49,702 - I have to go, June's- 1191 01:10:49,746 --> 01:10:50,411 - no! 1192 01:10:51,915 --> 01:10:53,915 We can't run from this anymore. 1193 01:10:59,047 --> 01:11:00,088 What is that? 1194 01:11:01,132 --> 01:11:03,132 - I know what you did, Henry. 1195 01:11:03,218 --> 01:11:04,926 - Mack, listen to me. 1196 01:11:20,026 --> 01:11:21,276 - Oh, phone, shoot! 1197 01:11:23,655 --> 01:11:27,156 Mack! 1198 01:11:27,242 --> 01:11:27,991 Mack! 1199 01:11:28,076 --> 01:11:29,617 Mack, Mack! 1200 01:11:29,661 --> 01:11:31,286 What are you doing?! 1201 01:11:39,587 --> 01:11:41,504 , oh my god, Oliver! 1202 01:11:41,589 --> 01:11:42,463 - It's okay. 1203 01:11:43,550 --> 01:11:44,632 It's okay, I'm here. 1204 01:11:46,636 --> 01:11:49,846 - That guy you cut up, he's a police officer 1205 01:11:49,931 --> 01:11:50,930 and that's a felony. 1206 01:11:50,974 --> 01:11:53,141 That guy? 1207 01:11:54,269 --> 01:11:55,143 He's not a cop. 1208 01:11:56,104 --> 01:11:57,478 - Save it for the judge. 1209 01:11:57,522 --> 01:11:58,313 - No, hey. 1210 01:11:59,357 --> 01:12:00,773 Seriously. 1211 01:12:00,859 --> 01:12:02,275 That guy paid me to attack that lady 1212 01:12:02,319 --> 01:12:04,319 so he can jump in and save the day. 1213 01:12:08,533 --> 01:12:10,658 - You're not Troy Kincaid? 1214 01:12:14,164 --> 01:12:14,996 - Mike. 1215 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,418 Listen, your friend was never in any danger. 1216 01:12:20,503 --> 01:12:21,919 I swear. 1217 01:12:22,005 --> 01:12:23,421 It was all rehearsed. 1218 01:12:23,506 --> 01:12:24,630 But if I were you, 1219 01:12:24,716 --> 01:12:26,090 I would tell her to stay away from that guy. 1220 01:12:26,176 --> 01:12:27,383 He's a weirdo, 1221 01:12:27,469 --> 01:12:30,219 like there's seriously something wrong with him. 1222 01:12:30,305 --> 01:12:31,137 - Oh no. 1223 01:12:35,602 --> 01:12:36,684 - It's Henry. 1224 01:12:37,729 --> 01:12:38,895 He killed Lily and all of those other women. 1225 01:12:38,980 --> 01:12:41,898 God, and how could I have been so stupid? 1226 01:12:41,983 --> 01:12:42,815 - It's okay. 1227 01:12:47,530 --> 01:12:48,905 Hey this is officer Turner. 1228 01:12:48,990 --> 01:12:51,574 We have a 1091 in progress. 1229 01:12:51,659 --> 01:12:53,159 Henry Meyer. 1230 01:12:53,244 --> 01:12:54,369 I'm at the high school. 1231 01:12:56,164 --> 01:12:57,246 Copy. 1232 01:12:58,500 --> 01:13:02,418 Okay, okay, squad cars are headed here and to your house. 1233 01:13:02,504 --> 01:13:03,586 It'll be okay, okay? 1234 01:13:03,671 --> 01:13:05,922 - Mhmm. - I hate to say it, 1235 01:13:06,007 --> 01:13:06,839 you're right. 1236 01:13:07,801 --> 01:13:09,884 Henry's a plague to the women in his life. 1237 01:13:11,096 --> 01:13:12,887 Hey, breathe, you're safe now. 1238 01:13:17,185 --> 01:13:18,101 Does he know you're here? 1239 01:13:18,186 --> 01:13:19,060 - No. 1240 01:13:19,145 --> 01:13:20,436 Wait, yes. 1241 01:13:20,522 --> 01:13:21,938 My cellphone. 1242 01:13:22,023 --> 01:13:23,731 I told June that I was coming here. 1243 01:13:23,775 --> 01:13:25,900 - Stay here, okay? 1244 01:13:25,944 --> 01:13:26,901 Don't move. 1245 01:13:37,414 --> 01:13:38,246 - What? 1246 01:13:51,344 --> 01:13:52,218 - Is everything okay, 1247 01:13:52,303 --> 01:13:53,094 June? - No. 1248 01:13:54,305 --> 01:13:55,721 Clarksville police department. 1249 01:13:55,807 --> 01:13:58,266 - Hi, I need to talk to officer Oliver Turner, 1250 01:13:58,351 --> 01:13:59,600 it's an emergency. 1251 01:13:59,686 --> 01:14:01,060 Turner. 1252 01:14:01,146 --> 01:14:03,479 Do you know what department he works in? 1253 01:14:03,565 --> 01:14:04,897 - No, sorry. 1254 01:14:04,983 --> 01:14:07,608 Wait, actually he's based in a different jurisdiction 1255 01:14:07,694 --> 01:14:08,985 not far away. 1256 01:14:09,070 --> 01:14:12,113 We have records of the entire state 1257 01:14:12,198 --> 01:14:14,407 but there's no one by that name. 1258 01:14:14,492 --> 01:14:15,950 Would you like us to check the, 1259 01:14:19,164 --> 01:14:20,037 - Oh my god, Mack. 1260 01:14:27,547 --> 01:14:32,550 Pick up, pick up. 1261 01:14:37,891 --> 01:14:39,098 Hey, it's Mack. 1262 01:14:39,184 --> 01:14:39,974 Leave me a message. 1263 01:14:40,059 --> 01:14:41,100 Sorry, I have to go. 1264 01:15:01,873 --> 01:15:04,332 Hither, hither, love? 1265 01:15:07,921 --> 01:15:09,337 - That's from Henry. 1266 01:15:09,422 --> 01:15:12,673 - It doesn't look like his handwriting. 1267 01:15:16,221 --> 01:15:18,179 - It's fine, I took care of him. 1268 01:15:21,267 --> 01:15:22,517 You're shaking. 1269 01:15:29,359 --> 01:15:31,400 - What do you mean you took care of him, Oliver? 1270 01:15:31,486 --> 01:15:34,028 - Henry's not a good person, Mack. 1271 01:15:34,113 --> 01:15:35,196 You're better off now. 1272 01:15:38,785 --> 01:15:41,369 You remind me so much of her. 1273 01:15:41,454 --> 01:15:42,411 - Who? 1274 01:15:42,497 --> 01:15:43,329 - Lily. 1275 01:15:45,166 --> 01:15:45,831 - Oliver. 1276 01:15:47,085 --> 01:15:49,001 What did you do to Lily? 1277 01:15:49,087 --> 01:15:53,965 The curse of Henry Meyer! 1278 01:15:57,929 --> 01:16:00,096 Even the most perfect girl, 1279 01:16:00,181 --> 01:16:03,724 a bad man can make ugly and cruel. 1280 01:16:03,810 --> 01:16:05,476 I just couldn't let that happen. 1281 01:16:05,562 --> 01:16:07,353 - What about the others? 1282 01:16:07,438 --> 01:16:09,188 Cecilia, Angelica? 1283 01:16:09,274 --> 01:16:10,398 - Brianna park? 1284 01:16:12,485 --> 01:16:13,693 Why do so many men think 1285 01:16:13,778 --> 01:16:15,736 they can get away with whatever they want, Mack? 1286 01:16:15,822 --> 01:16:18,072 With no consequences? 1287 01:16:18,157 --> 01:16:20,449 And you're better off now, Mack. 1288 01:16:20,535 --> 01:16:21,284 Trust me. 1289 01:16:21,369 --> 01:16:26,289 He won't hurt- 1290 01:16:29,085 --> 01:16:29,917 Mack! 1291 01:16:33,464 --> 01:16:36,257 You know we belong together, Mack! 1292 01:16:38,970 --> 01:16:41,262 I know you felt it last night! 1293 01:16:52,692 --> 01:16:54,775 Don't pretend it's not true. 1294 01:17:11,961 --> 01:17:13,127 - No, no! 1295 01:17:13,171 --> 01:17:15,046 No, no, no, help, help! 1296 01:17:33,399 --> 01:17:34,815 - How could you?! 1297 01:17:37,195 --> 01:17:38,319 It's over. 1298 01:17:39,572 --> 01:17:40,988 Just go, Henry. 1299 01:17:43,368 --> 01:17:44,241 Please, just go. 1300 01:18:05,807 --> 01:18:06,889 Lily. 1301 01:18:06,974 --> 01:18:07,682 - Oliver? 1302 01:18:07,767 --> 01:18:08,974 - You're too good for him. 1303 01:18:09,060 --> 01:18:10,434 This is our chance! 1304 01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:11,894 I know you felt it, Lily. 1305 01:18:11,979 --> 01:18:13,396 Don't pretend it's not true. 1306 01:18:13,481 --> 01:18:16,273 You loved that lying cheater 1307 01:18:16,359 --> 01:18:18,401 and you won't even give me a chance?! 1308 01:18:18,486 --> 01:18:20,569 - Oliver, please, just stop! 1309 01:18:20,655 --> 01:18:22,029 Please! 1310 01:18:22,115 --> 01:18:22,947 Let me go! 1311 01:18:57,024 --> 01:18:57,898 - Hello there. 1312 01:18:59,902 --> 01:19:00,735 You feeling okay? 1313 01:19:02,238 --> 01:19:04,655 They say it can cause some dehydration. 1314 01:19:04,741 --> 01:19:07,158 Lucky you, there's plenty of water. 1315 01:19:07,243 --> 01:19:08,659 - Oliver, where am I? 1316 01:19:09,912 --> 01:19:10,661 Oliver! 1317 01:19:10,747 --> 01:19:11,579 - Shh! 1318 01:19:16,335 --> 01:19:17,752 I'm sorry about this. 1319 01:19:19,464 --> 01:19:20,713 I have a surprise for you. 1320 01:19:20,798 --> 01:19:21,589 - Oliver, wait! 1321 01:19:27,096 --> 01:19:28,596 Tell me your story. 1322 01:19:29,557 --> 01:19:31,015 About the girls. 1323 01:19:31,100 --> 01:19:32,475 - Why drudge up the past? 1324 01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:33,601 - This is what I do. 1325 01:19:35,855 --> 01:19:36,687 Please. 1326 01:19:38,399 --> 01:19:39,523 - Remember the rooftop? 1327 01:19:41,152 --> 01:19:42,443 - You talked about the one. 1328 01:19:44,947 --> 01:19:47,573 - He's got good taste, I'll give him that. 1329 01:19:47,658 --> 01:19:50,910 These stupid girls cling on bad men. 1330 01:19:50,995 --> 01:19:52,787 By the time I got there, they were, 1331 01:19:53,873 --> 01:19:55,080 they were ruined. 1332 01:19:55,124 --> 01:19:57,625 - So what, you killed them and framed Henry? 1333 01:19:57,710 --> 01:19:58,793 - Oh, come on, Mack! 1334 01:20:00,755 --> 01:20:02,671 Don't pretend he's not guilty. 1335 01:20:02,757 --> 01:20:03,631 You saw it. 1336 01:20:05,009 --> 01:20:06,967 All you needed was a little nudge. 1337 01:20:52,348 --> 01:20:54,098 We see what we wanna see. 1338 01:20:55,351 --> 01:20:56,350 Isn't that right, Mack? 1339 01:20:58,437 --> 01:21:02,439 And now, For that surprise. 1340 01:21:05,152 --> 01:21:07,444 Here comes justice! 1341 01:21:07,530 --> 01:21:08,404 - Henry! 1342 01:21:09,282 --> 01:21:11,782 - Not such a big man now, are we? 1343 01:21:11,868 --> 01:21:13,200 How does it feel 1344 01:21:13,286 --> 01:21:16,328 knowing I can take anything from you? 1345 01:21:16,372 --> 01:21:17,621 - Oliver, what are you doing? 1346 01:21:17,707 --> 01:21:19,623 - Henry here's not worth you. 1347 01:21:19,709 --> 01:21:21,542 Or Lily, or any of them! 1348 01:21:22,837 --> 01:21:24,628 How does it feel, huh? 1349 01:21:24,714 --> 01:21:25,629 How does it feel 1350 01:21:26,591 --> 01:21:28,883 knowing everything you have I can have? 1351 01:21:34,098 --> 01:21:35,347 I could kill her right in front of you 1352 01:21:35,433 --> 01:21:36,140 if I wanted. 1353 01:21:36,225 --> 01:21:36,891 - No. 1354 01:21:38,561 --> 01:21:41,186 Oliver, get away from me. 1355 01:21:41,272 --> 01:21:43,397 - You didn't tell me to get away last night. 1356 01:21:45,109 --> 01:21:46,400 You hear that, big guy, huh? 1357 01:21:47,361 --> 01:21:50,070 She chose me. 1358 01:21:51,824 --> 01:21:53,240 Come here, baby, mmmm. 1359 01:21:59,248 --> 01:22:02,333 We're only moments away from our happy ending, Lily. 1360 01:22:02,418 --> 01:22:03,584 - That's not my name. 1361 01:22:03,669 --> 01:22:04,501 - Shut up! 1362 01:22:05,379 --> 01:22:06,253 Shut up! 1363 01:22:09,300 --> 01:22:12,676 You don't even know what's good for you. 1364 01:22:14,639 --> 01:22:17,681 And you, this is long overdue! 1365 01:22:20,645 --> 01:22:22,061 Soon you're gonna thank me. 1366 01:22:22,146 --> 01:22:23,562 - Oliver! 1367 01:22:23,648 --> 01:22:24,605 Get away from him. 1368 01:22:24,649 --> 01:22:26,023 - Shut up! 1369 01:22:30,029 --> 01:22:33,030 Get back here, come here, come here! 1370 01:22:39,121 --> 01:22:39,954 Come here! 1371 01:22:41,582 --> 01:22:42,456 Got you! 1372 01:23:05,106 --> 01:23:06,146 - Au revoir. 1373 01:23:07,817 --> 01:23:08,649 - Mack! 1374 01:23:11,779 --> 01:23:12,736 Are you okay? 1375 01:23:12,822 --> 01:23:14,238 I was so worried. 1376 01:23:26,502 --> 01:23:27,418 Mack! 1377 01:23:27,503 --> 01:23:28,127 - Henry. 1378 01:23:28,212 --> 01:23:29,503 I'm so glad you're okay. 1379 01:23:31,173 --> 01:23:32,006 I know. 1380 01:23:32,883 --> 01:23:34,091 I'm sorry. 1381 01:23:34,176 --> 01:23:35,259 I'm so sorry. 1382 01:23:37,221 --> 01:23:39,763 I think they need to get him in the ambulance. 1383 01:23:40,975 --> 01:23:41,849 I love you. 1384 01:23:45,187 --> 01:23:46,353 - I'm gonna need a lot of therapy 1385 01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:48,939 after this, aren't I? 1386 01:23:49,025 --> 01:23:50,858 - I'd say highly likely. 1387 01:23:53,029 --> 01:23:55,529 Did you really meet a murderer? 1388 01:23:58,451 --> 01:24:00,617 You know, that's just the name of the podcast, right? 1389 01:24:00,703 --> 01:24:01,910 It's a joke, like 1390 01:24:01,954 --> 01:24:03,203 you're not supposed to meet. - June, please. 1391 01:24:13,257 --> 01:24:15,090 In the end, the blue ribbon killer 1392 01:24:15,176 --> 01:24:16,884 was revealed to be Oliver Turner. 1393 01:24:18,054 --> 01:24:21,013 A dark, twisted man who let his hate 1394 01:24:21,098 --> 01:24:22,598 and delusions consume him. 1395 01:24:23,768 --> 01:24:26,727 "He seemed so normal" is the common refrain. 1396 01:24:27,855 --> 01:24:29,688 But is that real 1397 01:24:29,774 --> 01:24:31,231 or is it just a blue ribbon? 1398 01:24:32,318 --> 01:24:34,818 The people who come into your life can change you. 1399 01:24:36,238 --> 01:24:37,905 But I think I speak for all of us when I say 1400 01:24:37,990 --> 01:24:39,156 I think this is one murderer 1401 01:24:39,241 --> 01:24:40,157 we wish we'd never met. 1402 01:24:41,452 --> 01:24:42,826 I really can't thank all of you enough 1403 01:24:42,912 --> 01:24:43,744 for your support. 1404 01:24:44,663 --> 01:24:47,164 This podcast saved me, literally. 1405 01:24:49,168 --> 01:24:52,544 And I guess, while the story is sensational, 1406 01:24:52,630 --> 01:24:55,547 what matters most are the people around you. 1407 01:24:55,591 --> 01:24:58,092 Do me a favor, hold them close 1408 01:24:59,261 --> 01:25:00,677 and don't let a little thing like murder 1409 01:25:00,763 --> 01:25:01,428 get between you. 1410 01:25:02,681 --> 01:25:04,181 As always, thanks for listening 1411 01:25:04,266 --> 01:25:05,516 to "how I met your murderer". 1412 01:25:05,601 --> 01:25:08,852 I'm Mack Meyer, June Kim's our fearless producer. 1413 01:25:08,938 --> 01:25:11,355 And a big thanks to our guest Henry Meyer 1414 01:25:11,440 --> 01:25:14,650 and resident blue ribbon killer expert Andie McDougall. 1415 01:25:14,735 --> 01:25:16,235 And with that, 1416 01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:19,029 Au revoir, and watch your back. 1417 01:25:21,158 --> 01:25:22,866 - That was so cool! 1418 01:25:22,952 --> 01:25:25,202 - Maybe the best one yet? 1419 01:25:25,287 --> 01:25:27,037 - You might be a little biased, superstar. 1420 01:25:27,123 --> 01:25:29,748 This is my good side, get me from here. 1421 01:25:29,834 --> 01:25:34,294 - Well, I have got a long drive back to the city and, 1422 01:25:34,380 --> 01:25:36,713 ooh, chocolate chip oatmeal raisin 1423 01:25:36,799 --> 01:25:38,632 is gonna keep me company. 1424 01:25:39,510 --> 01:25:40,551 - Thanks Mack. 1425 01:25:40,636 --> 01:25:43,011 Oh, and my mom wanted me to give you this. 1426 01:25:43,973 --> 01:25:45,430 I think her and the rest of the town 1427 01:25:45,516 --> 01:25:47,266 feel bad for being so mean to you guys. 1428 01:25:47,309 --> 01:25:49,393 - Oh, water under the bridge. 1429 01:25:49,478 --> 01:25:51,645 - I'm just glad we get to be friends. 1430 01:25:51,730 --> 01:25:53,605 - Come on, kid, I'll drop you off. 1431 01:25:53,691 --> 01:25:55,566 - June, were you just being maternal? 1432 01:25:57,278 --> 01:25:59,820 - What has this town done to me? 1433 01:26:02,408 --> 01:26:05,450 - I mean it was a great episode. 1434 01:26:05,536 --> 01:26:07,244 - Quadrupled our listener base, 1435 01:26:07,329 --> 01:26:08,745 booked a national tour. 1436 01:26:08,831 --> 01:26:11,248 All it took was a run-in with a real live serial killer. 1437 01:26:11,333 --> 01:26:14,626 - Well, I mean they say relationships can get rough. 1438 01:26:14,712 --> 01:26:17,129 - Really, that's what other couples have to deal with? 1439 01:26:17,214 --> 01:26:19,840 - In that case, consider us superheroes. 1440 01:26:21,969 --> 01:26:25,679 But that means, I promise not to hide things 1441 01:26:27,183 --> 01:26:29,516 and try to fix everything myself. 1442 01:26:32,271 --> 01:26:33,187 Mack, look. 1443 01:26:34,523 --> 01:26:35,939 If we have problems, Mack, 1444 01:26:37,693 --> 01:26:38,859 we solve them together. 1445 01:26:41,947 --> 01:26:42,779 - Deal. 1446 01:26:44,909 --> 01:26:48,619 And from now on, I'm gonna try making up the murders 1447 01:26:48,704 --> 01:26:50,287 instead of living 'em. 1448 01:26:52,499 --> 01:26:53,123 - What, you're gonna, 1449 01:26:53,209 --> 01:26:54,291 - try writing a book. 1450 01:26:55,753 --> 01:26:57,044 - And it's gonna be great. 1451 01:26:59,048 --> 01:27:03,967 And maybe a good time to try ivf again? 1452 01:27:04,053 --> 01:27:06,803 - Well, you know, I was thinking the same thing. 1453 01:27:06,889 --> 01:27:07,721 Oh! 1454 01:27:07,806 --> 01:27:10,140 - In the meantime, 1455 01:27:10,226 --> 01:27:12,851 maybe we could try doing it the old fashioned way? 1456 01:27:12,937 --> 01:27:15,145 Yes, please. 1457 01:27:18,359 --> 01:27:20,317 - I love you. 1458 01:27:20,402 --> 01:27:21,485 A lot. 1459 01:27:24,406 --> 01:27:25,822 - I love you too. 97620