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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:27,902 --> 00:00:30,453 And in all of my years of public life, 2 00:00:30,461 --> 00:00:33,116 I have never obstructed justice. 3 00:00:33,117 --> 00:00:35,355 And I think, too, that I can say, 4 00:00:35,356 --> 00:00:37,562 That in my years of public life, 5 00:00:37,564 --> 00:00:39,837 That I welcome this kind of examination 6 00:00:39,838 --> 00:00:41,275 Because people have got to know 7 00:00:41,276 --> 00:00:43,577 Whether or not their president is a crook. 8 00:00:43,579 --> 00:00:44,663 Well, I'm not a crook. 9 00:00:55,290 --> 00:00:56,959 To share with you what the United States knows 10 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,023 About Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, 11 00:01:00,026 --> 00:01:01,301 Every statement I make today 12 00:01:01,305 --> 00:01:04,240 Is backed up by sources, solid sources. 13 00:01:04,248 --> 00:01:05,975 These are not assertions. 14 00:01:05,976 --> 00:01:07,309 What we're giving you are facts 15 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,225 And conclusions based on solid intelligence. 16 00:01:28,245 --> 00:01:31,438 Renewed hostile actions against United States ships 17 00:01:31,445 --> 00:01:34,322 On the high seas in the gulf of tonkin 18 00:01:34,325 --> 00:01:36,013 Have today required me 19 00:01:36,020 --> 00:01:39,443 To order the military forces of the United States 20 00:01:39,444 --> 00:01:41,209 To take action in reply. 21 00:01:44,819 --> 00:01:46,670 So, what I wanted to see 22 00:01:46,675 --> 00:01:49,591 Is if you could give me a yes or no answer to the question: 23 00:01:49,592 --> 00:01:54,130 Does the NSA collect any type of data at all 24 00:01:54,131 --> 00:01:57,420 On millions or hundreds of millions of Americans? 25 00:01:58,353 --> 00:02:00,271 No, sir. 26 00:02:00,274 --> 00:02:01,588 It does not? 27 00:02:02,576 --> 00:02:03,957 Not wittingly. 28 00:02:07,726 --> 00:02:09,779 You have to get rid of this ignorant 29 00:02:09,780 --> 00:02:11,530 And meddlesome majority. 30 00:02:13,550 --> 00:02:16,139 Control them, make sure they do the right things 31 00:02:16,142 --> 00:02:18,118 All for their own good, incidentally. 32 00:02:18,125 --> 00:02:19,660 If they're allowed to participate, 33 00:02:19,661 --> 00:02:22,116 They'll make all kind of mistakes, errors, 34 00:02:22,124 --> 00:02:25,222 But we, the responsible men, 35 00:02:25,228 --> 00:02:27,308 We know how to do the right thing 36 00:02:27,309 --> 00:02:28,909 Like get into the Vietnam war 37 00:02:28,910 --> 00:02:32,388 And invade Iraq and deregulate the banks 38 00:02:32,394 --> 00:02:33,580 So that everything crashes. 39 00:02:33,581 --> 00:02:35,016 We... we get everything straight. 40 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,039 My fellow citizens, at this hour, 41 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,891 American and coalition forces 42 00:02:41,896 --> 00:02:44,620 Are in the early stages of military operations 43 00:02:44,621 --> 00:02:45,959 To disarm Iraq, 44 00:02:45,959 --> 00:02:47,302 To free its people, 45 00:02:47,303 --> 00:02:49,768 And to defend the world from grave danger. 46 00:03:13,507 --> 00:03:15,298 I believe, very deeply, 47 00:03:15,298 --> 00:03:16,574 In freedom of the press 48 00:03:16,578 --> 00:03:19,292 And the role of press in a free society, 49 00:03:19,298 --> 00:03:21,856 And I have ever since I was a kid. 50 00:03:21,857 --> 00:03:24,830 You can't fulfill your function unless you're free. 51 00:03:26,591 --> 00:03:29,785 One of the great reporters of the 20th century, I.F. Stone, 52 00:03:29,791 --> 00:03:32,189 Told journalism students never to forget 53 00:03:32,191 --> 00:03:34,071 That all governments lie. 54 00:03:34,078 --> 00:03:35,745 He could speak with authority, 55 00:03:35,746 --> 00:03:38,552 Having spent seven decades exposing deception 56 00:03:38,558 --> 00:03:39,836 And official lies 57 00:03:39,837 --> 00:03:41,909 By digging deep into government documents 58 00:03:41,917 --> 00:03:42,904 And transcripts. 59 00:03:42,908 --> 00:03:45,526 I tried to prove what I was saying 60 00:03:45,532 --> 00:03:46,932 From the horse's mouth, as it were. 61 00:03:46,940 --> 00:03:48,705 Using the government's own documents, 62 00:03:48,706 --> 00:03:51,989 Government reports and transcripts 63 00:03:51,995 --> 00:03:53,779 And press conferences, speeches, 64 00:03:53,787 --> 00:03:57,305 And analyzing them the way... the way a historian would. 65 00:03:57,306 --> 00:03:59,320 He gained his greatest fame and impact 66 00:03:59,322 --> 00:04:02,900 Publishing a newsletter called "I.F. Stone's weekly." 67 00:04:02,906 --> 00:04:05,916 Everybody in government and journalism knew Izzy stone 68 00:04:05,917 --> 00:04:07,065 And read his stuff. 69 00:04:07,066 --> 00:04:09,530 I.F. Stone's weekly is about this size. 70 00:04:09,531 --> 00:04:12,723 Well, I.F. Stone's weekly was a classic example 71 00:04:12,729 --> 00:04:17,047 Of an independent journalistic organization 72 00:04:17,048 --> 00:04:19,091 That was able to report the truth 73 00:04:19,096 --> 00:04:21,815 And that's the way alternative media, 74 00:04:21,816 --> 00:04:23,475 Which I really think, is real journalism 75 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,774 Has always worked as a vehicle 76 00:04:26,775 --> 00:04:30,102 That has exposed the collusion, 77 00:04:30,103 --> 00:04:33,363 Hypocrisy and lies of the commercial media. 78 00:04:34,772 --> 00:04:38,417 Do you presume to criticize the great oz, 79 00:04:38,420 --> 00:04:40,946 You ungrateful creatures? 80 00:04:40,947 --> 00:04:43,661 I mean, stone was kind of like Toto, you know. 81 00:04:43,666 --> 00:04:46,735 It was like his job was to pull back the curtain. 82 00:04:46,738 --> 00:04:49,644 The great oz has spoken. 83 00:04:50,192 --> 00:04:51,467 Oh! 84 00:04:51,472 --> 00:04:54,733 Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! 85 00:04:54,736 --> 00:04:56,452 And to see what was behind that curtain 86 00:04:56,463 --> 00:04:57,863 And what was behind that curtain, yes, 87 00:04:57,871 --> 00:04:59,472 It was the all-powerful oz. 88 00:04:59,473 --> 00:05:02,252 It was also just a frightened little man. 89 00:05:02,254 --> 00:05:05,102 Nothing and nothing that any of us need to be frightened of, 90 00:05:05,103 --> 00:05:07,727 And why are... why are we frightened of that? 91 00:05:07,728 --> 00:05:11,206 That's the embodiment of what he and his weekly stood for 92 00:05:11,212 --> 00:05:14,051 And it certainly was a huge inspiration to me. 93 00:05:30,443 --> 00:05:33,828 I want surveillance of certain mosques, okay? 94 00:05:33,834 --> 00:05:36,519 I watched in jersey city, new jersey, 95 00:05:36,521 --> 00:05:41,249 Where thousands and thousands of people were cheering 96 00:05:41,256 --> 00:05:43,558 As that building was coming down. 97 00:05:43,559 --> 00:05:46,086 Donald J. Trump is calling for a total 98 00:05:46,087 --> 00:05:50,917 And complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States 99 00:05:50,918 --> 00:05:55,809 Until our country's representatives can figure out 100 00:05:55,813 --> 00:05:57,894 What the hell is going on. 101 00:06:04,227 --> 00:06:05,793 You have no choice. 102 00:06:05,794 --> 00:06:08,412 Who would have thought that this circus would come to town, 103 00:06:08,418 --> 00:06:11,199 But you know, it may not be good for America, 104 00:06:11,201 --> 00:06:12,668 But it's damn good for CBS, 105 00:06:12,672 --> 00:06:14,081 That's all I got to say. 106 00:06:14,082 --> 00:06:15,710 The money's rolling in and this is fun. 107 00:06:15,711 --> 00:06:17,562 I've never seen anything like this, 108 00:06:17,567 --> 00:06:20,224 And you know, this is gonna be a very good year for us. 109 00:06:20,225 --> 00:06:21,793 It's a terrible thing to say, 110 00:06:21,794 --> 00:06:23,612 But bring it on, Donald, go ahead. 111 00:06:23,613 --> 00:06:24,629 Keep going. 112 00:06:24,636 --> 00:06:27,763 It makes you ask, seriously, 113 00:06:27,771 --> 00:06:32,089 Whether those executives who run media conglomerates 114 00:06:32,090 --> 00:06:34,487 Have any more ethics or morals 115 00:06:34,489 --> 00:06:37,942 Than those who run the oil and gas industry, 116 00:06:37,945 --> 00:06:40,822 The pharmaceutical companies, the tobacco industry. 117 00:06:40,825 --> 00:06:42,484 It's an open question to me. 118 00:06:49,686 --> 00:06:52,496 โ™ช Drivin' my limousine 119 00:06:52,503 --> 00:06:54,421 โ™ช now it's all designed 120 00:06:54,423 --> 00:06:55,797 โ™ช to blow our minds 121 00:06:55,798 --> 00:06:59,155 โ™ช but our minds won't really be blown โ™ช 122 00:06:59,158 --> 00:07:00,884 โ™ช Like the blow that'll get ya โ™ช 123 00:07:00,885 --> 00:07:02,391 โ™ช When you get your picture 124 00:07:02,392 --> 00:07:05,458 โ™ช on the cover of the rolling stone โ™ช 125 00:07:05,461 --> 00:07:06,835 โ™ช Rolling stone 126 00:07:06,836 --> 00:07:09,742 โ™ช wanna see our pictures on the cover โ™ช 127 00:07:09,748 --> 00:07:12,946 โ™ช Wanna buy five copies for our mothers โ™ช 128 00:07:12,947 --> 00:07:15,373 โ™ช Wanna see my smiling face โ™ช 129 00:07:15,378 --> 00:07:18,449 โ™ช On the cover of the rolling stone โ™ช 130 00:07:18,450 --> 00:07:19,946 We're in new Hampshire, 131 00:07:19,954 --> 00:07:22,572 Which is like, the capital of depressed America, where, 132 00:07:22,578 --> 00:07:24,908 You know, the manufacturing economy has disappeared, 133 00:07:24,913 --> 00:07:27,368 And we really don't examine those issues at all. 134 00:07:27,377 --> 00:07:30,215 We don't actually talk to people at all, 135 00:07:30,224 --> 00:07:31,567 'cause you don't have time. 136 00:07:31,568 --> 00:07:34,119 There's only time to watch the speech, 137 00:07:34,127 --> 00:07:36,301 To ask the people in the audience 138 00:07:36,302 --> 00:07:37,424 What they think of the speech 139 00:07:37,425 --> 00:07:38,601 And then you go on 140 00:07:38,605 --> 00:07:39,890 And you move on to the next spot. 141 00:07:39,891 --> 00:07:41,994 The entire thing could be shot 142 00:07:41,996 --> 00:07:44,902 In a sound stage in la with... 143 00:07:44,908 --> 00:07:47,814 Just by rotating in a different audience each time. 144 00:08:17,931 --> 00:08:19,177 Well, Donald trump, of course, 145 00:08:19,178 --> 00:08:20,905 Remains the strong frontrunner up here 146 00:08:20,905 --> 00:08:22,891 To win the republican primary in new Hampshire tomorrow. 147 00:08:22,892 --> 00:08:24,068 It snows in new Hampshire, 148 00:08:24,072 --> 00:08:25,511 People know how to put... get cars. 149 00:08:25,512 --> 00:08:26,701 They got... they used to put chains on, 150 00:08:26,702 --> 00:08:28,230 Now they got good tires. 151 00:08:28,231 --> 00:08:30,369 Why should they trudge through the snow for Donald trump? 152 00:08:30,374 --> 00:08:31,687 Well, you know, my whole concept 153 00:08:31,688 --> 00:08:33,287 And my whole theme, frankly, behind it 154 00:08:33,288 --> 00:08:34,849 Is make America great again. 155 00:08:34,853 --> 00:08:36,579 Make America great again! 156 00:08:36,580 --> 00:08:38,661 We're going to make America great again! 157 00:08:38,662 --> 00:08:41,570 We're going to make America great again. 158 00:08:41,571 --> 00:08:42,942 Build a wall! 159 00:08:42,946 --> 00:08:44,615 Build a wall! 160 00:08:49,344 --> 00:08:51,041 I'm very focused on the idea 161 00:08:51,042 --> 00:08:53,570 That these voters have completely shifted their tune 162 00:08:53,571 --> 00:08:55,006 About what they're upset about. 163 00:08:56,191 --> 00:08:58,780 But you know, there's a lot of subtleties 164 00:08:58,783 --> 00:09:01,305 That people in this kind of audience don't pick up on, 165 00:09:01,310 --> 00:09:02,911 And he's smart enough to know 166 00:09:02,911 --> 00:09:05,336 That he can just steamroll right past a lot of those problems 167 00:09:05,341 --> 00:09:06,971 And they're not going to be noticed by anybody. 168 00:09:06,972 --> 00:09:08,478 Thank you very much, everybody. 169 00:09:08,479 --> 00:09:10,039 Wow, this is beautiful. 170 00:09:32,826 --> 00:09:33,977 We had a lot of fun. 171 00:09:33,978 --> 00:09:35,291 We gave very high grades on that. 172 00:09:35,292 --> 00:09:37,524 Even people that hate me gave me good marks, 173 00:09:37,529 --> 00:09:38,833 Isn't that amazing? 174 00:09:38,841 --> 00:09:40,248 For the next 20 minutes, 175 00:09:40,249 --> 00:09:41,916 He's talking about how he's gonna slap tariffs 176 00:09:41,917 --> 00:09:43,735 On every country that imports to the United States 177 00:09:43,736 --> 00:09:45,558 And yeah, how he's, you know, ford is gonna... 178 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,022 Want to relocate a factory and he's... 179 00:09:48,023 --> 00:09:49,461 He, Donald trump, the president, 180 00:09:49,462 --> 00:09:50,642 Is not going to allow that. 181 00:09:50,646 --> 00:09:52,084 The idea of giving the government 182 00:09:52,085 --> 00:09:55,476 That much power over... over corporate business 183 00:09:55,477 --> 00:09:57,327 Doesn't seem to trouble this audience at all, 184 00:09:57,332 --> 00:09:59,663 Which is odd when you think about it after... 185 00:09:59,668 --> 00:10:01,710 After all those years of propaganda. 186 00:10:01,715 --> 00:10:03,240 For years and years and years, 187 00:10:03,251 --> 00:10:06,224 What was the party line that we got was that, you know, 188 00:10:06,226 --> 00:10:07,435 Free enterprise cures all. 189 00:10:07,442 --> 00:10:08,650 The market is self-correcting. 190 00:10:08,657 --> 00:10:09,999 We're the best in the world. 191 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,663 We have confidence we're gonna do that. 192 00:10:11,664 --> 00:10:13,295 Well, that's not what he's saying anymore. 193 00:10:13,296 --> 00:10:14,955 People don't have confidence in that anymore. 194 00:10:14,959 --> 00:10:16,235 Now they need... 195 00:10:16,239 --> 00:10:17,994 Now they need the strong man to step in 196 00:10:17,999 --> 00:10:20,109 And make sure that we all get paid. 197 00:10:20,110 --> 00:10:23,496 I'll bring back our jobs from china, from Mexico, 198 00:10:23,502 --> 00:10:26,028 From japan, from so many places. 199 00:10:26,029 --> 00:10:28,810 I'll bring back our jobs and I'll bring back our money. 200 00:10:30,538 --> 00:10:33,481 Matt Taibbi's acerbic writing on Donald trump 201 00:10:33,482 --> 00:10:37,193 Is really reminiscent of I.F. Stone's writing 202 00:10:37,194 --> 00:10:40,196 On the demagogue senator Joe McCarthy, 203 00:10:40,201 --> 00:10:44,162 And presidents like Ike Eisenhower, john f. Kennedy, 204 00:10:44,168 --> 00:10:46,661 Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon. 205 00:10:48,711 --> 00:10:50,821 Matt is sort of a cross between I.F. Stone 206 00:10:50,823 --> 00:10:53,920 And Hunter S. Thompson, the original gonzo journalist, 207 00:10:53,926 --> 00:10:56,516 Who so raucously, viscerally, 208 00:10:56,518 --> 00:10:58,340 Would skewer the powers that were 209 00:10:58,341 --> 00:10:59,549 In the early '70s. 210 00:11:00,322 --> 00:11:02,394 And as Izzy was drowned out 211 00:11:02,402 --> 00:11:05,251 When mainstream media gave Joe McCarthy his megaphone, 212 00:11:05,252 --> 00:11:08,990 Taibbi's independent voice can't really compete 213 00:11:08,993 --> 00:11:11,774 When mainstream TV news, for months, 214 00:11:11,776 --> 00:11:14,174 Provided a fairly uncritical platform 215 00:11:14,175 --> 00:11:16,861 And a massive megaphone to trump. 216 00:11:16,863 --> 00:11:19,452 When do we beat Mexico at the border? 217 00:11:19,454 --> 00:11:21,602 They're laughing at us at our stupidity. 218 00:11:21,603 --> 00:11:23,420 They're bringing drugs. 219 00:11:23,421 --> 00:11:25,019 They're bringing crime. 220 00:11:25,020 --> 00:11:29,048 They're rapists and some, I assume, are good people. 221 00:11:53,275 --> 00:11:55,384 We spent about a year doing this story, 222 00:11:55,386 --> 00:11:58,969 And we found evidence that bodies, human bodies, 223 00:11:58,970 --> 00:12:02,135 Were buried in, I would say, a criminal way. 224 00:12:11,544 --> 00:12:13,750 If we had 200 bodies that were buried in a criminal way 225 00:12:13,752 --> 00:12:16,178 In the United States, if they were Anglo, 226 00:12:16,183 --> 00:12:17,746 I think that we'd be hearing about it. 227 00:12:17,750 --> 00:12:19,157 Because they're Mexican, 228 00:12:19,158 --> 00:12:20,693 Or because they're from south of the border, 229 00:12:20,694 --> 00:12:21,969 For the most part, 230 00:12:21,973 --> 00:12:23,316 There wasn't any sort of an uproar. 231 00:12:23,317 --> 00:12:24,822 The national media didn't pay attention. 232 00:12:24,823 --> 00:12:27,793 We found mass graves in the United States. 233 00:12:27,796 --> 00:12:31,057 We found people dumped into a mass grave, 234 00:12:31,060 --> 00:12:32,076 And they were not catalogued. 235 00:12:32,083 --> 00:12:33,224 They were not documented, 236 00:12:33,235 --> 00:12:34,578 They were not properly treated. 237 00:12:34,579 --> 00:12:36,650 Some individuals were buried in trash bags. 238 00:12:42,768 --> 00:12:44,110 The mainstream media, 239 00:12:44,112 --> 00:12:45,867 If we're talking about national media coverage 240 00:12:45,872 --> 00:12:48,174 Of the migrant deaths in Falfurrias, Texas, 241 00:12:48,176 --> 00:12:50,986 To my knowledge has been non-existent. 242 00:12:50,992 --> 00:12:53,168 Media executives, for the most part, 243 00:12:53,169 --> 00:12:56,303 People who make decisions on what's on television, 244 00:12:56,304 --> 00:12:58,373 Are really some of the most ill-informed people 245 00:12:58,381 --> 00:13:00,136 When it comes to the news itself. 246 00:13:00,875 --> 00:13:02,151 The choices that are made 247 00:13:02,156 --> 00:13:03,978 Are entertainment based. 248 00:13:03,979 --> 00:13:05,130 Who's pretty? 249 00:13:05,131 --> 00:13:06,252 Who speaks English? 250 00:13:06,253 --> 00:13:07,976 These are things that I'm asked 251 00:13:07,977 --> 00:13:09,349 When I'm pitching a story. 252 00:13:09,352 --> 00:13:11,366 They're not going to watch a bunch of bodies 253 00:13:11,368 --> 00:13:13,056 Being exhumed from a grave-site 254 00:13:13,064 --> 00:13:14,915 And seeing law enforcement held accountable. 255 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,424 That's not something that's savory, 256 00:13:16,425 --> 00:13:19,109 And I'm talking about all of the mainstream media 257 00:13:19,111 --> 00:13:20,325 On major networks. 258 00:13:20,326 --> 00:13:22,693 ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS. 259 00:13:22,694 --> 00:13:26,116 We're being dumbed down, we're being watered down, 260 00:13:26,117 --> 00:13:29,599 We're being misinformed, we're being misled, 261 00:13:29,604 --> 00:13:33,026 And we're being told information which is false. 262 00:13:34,339 --> 00:13:37,570 I remember pitching a story to 60 minutes, 263 00:13:37,571 --> 00:13:40,669 Which I had done one for about a year prior, 264 00:13:40,675 --> 00:13:43,072 And it was about the border and it was about migrants. 265 00:13:43,074 --> 00:13:45,146 Stories that rarely get to see the light of day, 266 00:13:45,153 --> 00:13:46,400 And they told me, 267 00:13:46,401 --> 00:13:48,156 "john, we already did a border story for you." 268 00:13:48,161 --> 00:13:52,093 It was a year ago, so there must only be one border story. 269 00:13:52,096 --> 00:13:53,908 It's not what their audience wants to see, 270 00:13:53,919 --> 00:13:54,907 So they're not interested. 271 00:13:54,911 --> 00:13:56,320 Even if it's newsworthy, 272 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,524 They're going to consider the ratings first. 273 00:14:10,653 --> 00:14:14,068 The heat index, a combination of temperature and humidity, 274 00:14:14,077 --> 00:14:16,312 Is among the highest in the nation. 275 00:14:17,723 --> 00:14:19,258 Pictures can't capture, 276 00:14:19,260 --> 00:14:21,466 And I can't adequately describe, 277 00:14:21,467 --> 00:14:24,090 How hot and how humid it feels. 278 00:14:29,337 --> 00:14:31,121 It's like walking through soup. 279 00:14:35,256 --> 00:14:37,490 Everywhere there are signs of migrants. 280 00:14:39,863 --> 00:14:41,493 It's certainly a winter coat. 281 00:14:42,678 --> 00:14:44,308 Some young woman, 282 00:14:44,309 --> 00:14:47,598 Probably brought her best clothes and best jewelry 283 00:14:47,604 --> 00:14:49,273 'cause she was here to get a job. 284 00:14:56,595 --> 00:14:58,063 I think the last time I checked 285 00:14:58,066 --> 00:15:02,993 There are over 10,000 people missing from records in Mexico, 286 00:15:02,994 --> 00:15:05,104 Just in Mexico, not central America, 287 00:15:05,106 --> 00:15:06,515 Who have crossed that border. 288 00:15:06,516 --> 00:15:08,144 That means 10,000 families 289 00:15:08,145 --> 00:15:09,457 Who are still looking for their loved ones 290 00:15:09,458 --> 00:15:11,087 Who may have crossed that border illegally 291 00:15:11,088 --> 00:15:12,652 And were never heard from again. 292 00:15:12,655 --> 00:15:13,701 Where are they? 293 00:15:13,711 --> 00:15:15,054 There are no records of them. 294 00:15:15,055 --> 00:15:16,743 They're probably in some cemetery plot 295 00:15:16,750 --> 00:15:18,630 Somewhere in Texas or Arizona. 296 00:15:18,638 --> 00:15:20,460 This is going on all over the border. 297 00:15:28,492 --> 00:15:31,590 My colleagues, we have an obligation to our citizens. 298 00:15:31,595 --> 00:15:34,026 We have an obligation to this body 299 00:15:34,027 --> 00:15:37,700 To see that our resolutions are complied with. 300 00:15:37,705 --> 00:15:39,815 We wrote 1441 301 00:15:39,817 --> 00:15:42,944 To give Iraq one last chance. 302 00:15:43,783 --> 00:15:45,383 Iraq is not, so far, 303 00:15:45,384 --> 00:15:49,253 Taking that one last chance. 304 00:15:49,254 --> 00:15:52,869 We must not shrink from whatever is ahead of us 305 00:15:52,870 --> 00:15:56,927 And our responsibility to the citizens of the countries 306 00:15:56,933 --> 00:15:59,844 That are represented by this body. 307 00:15:59,845 --> 00:16:01,667 Thank you, Mr. President. 308 00:16:01,668 --> 00:16:05,283 Did Colin Powell close the deal today in your mind? 309 00:16:05,284 --> 00:16:09,826 I think for anybody who analyzes the situation, 310 00:16:09,827 --> 00:16:11,486 He has closed the deal. 311 00:16:11,491 --> 00:16:15,905 This irrefutable, undeniable, incontrovertible evidence today. 312 00:16:15,906 --> 00:16:18,495 Colin Powell brilliantly delivered 313 00:16:18,497 --> 00:16:19,677 That smoking gun today. 314 00:16:19,681 --> 00:16:20,994 It was so compelling, 315 00:16:20,995 --> 00:16:22,652 I don't see how anybody at this point 316 00:16:22,657 --> 00:16:24,191 Can not support this effort. 317 00:16:24,192 --> 00:16:26,494 It was devastating, I mean, and overwhelming. 318 00:16:26,496 --> 00:16:28,893 Overwhelming abundance of the evidence. 319 00:16:34,751 --> 00:16:37,628 This was the mainstream media's darkest hour. 320 00:16:37,631 --> 00:16:38,753 Go, go! 321 00:16:39,869 --> 00:16:41,019 Fight, fight! 322 00:16:41,021 --> 00:16:42,450 They were more than cheerleaders, 323 00:16:42,461 --> 00:16:43,928 They were complicit. 324 00:16:43,932 --> 00:16:46,970 He just flooded the terrain with... with data. 325 00:16:46,971 --> 00:16:49,494 The Powell speech has... has moved the ball. 326 00:16:49,498 --> 00:16:51,608 I think the case is closed. 327 00:16:51,610 --> 00:16:53,586 You do not, under international law, 328 00:16:53,593 --> 00:16:55,799 Wage a destructive sociocide. 329 00:16:55,801 --> 00:16:57,748 They basically blew apart the country 330 00:16:57,753 --> 00:16:59,834 'cause they wanted to get Saddam Hussein. 331 00:16:59,835 --> 00:17:03,697 Well, this is like one of the greatest international crimes 332 00:17:03,703 --> 00:17:05,199 Since world war ii. 333 00:17:05,206 --> 00:17:08,053 This is ABC world news tonight. 334 00:17:08,054 --> 00:17:10,421 This is NBC nightly news. 335 00:17:11,797 --> 00:17:14,348 This is the CBS evening news. 336 00:17:14,357 --> 00:17:18,259 And it was committed with the complete complicity 337 00:17:18,260 --> 00:17:21,523 Of the mainstream media that kept critical voices, 338 00:17:21,524 --> 00:17:23,442 Such as ours, off the air. 339 00:17:23,444 --> 00:17:27,117 Oh, I think it's important to have experts explain the war 340 00:17:27,123 --> 00:17:29,454 And to describe the military hardware, 341 00:17:29,459 --> 00:17:30,484 Describe the tactics. 342 00:17:30,485 --> 00:17:32,496 Talk about the strategy behind the conflict. 343 00:17:32,498 --> 00:17:34,674 I went to the pentagon myself several times 344 00:17:34,675 --> 00:17:35,853 Before the war started 345 00:17:35,856 --> 00:17:37,007 And met with important people there 346 00:17:37,008 --> 00:17:38,771 And said, for instance, at CNN, 347 00:17:38,772 --> 00:17:41,386 "here are the generals we're thinking of retaining 348 00:17:41,392 --> 00:17:43,953 To advise us on the air and off about the war," 349 00:17:43,954 --> 00:17:45,936 And we got a big thumbs up on all of them. 350 00:17:45,937 --> 00:17:46,923 That was important. 351 00:17:48,045 --> 00:17:49,675 Journalists, too many of them, 352 00:17:49,677 --> 00:17:51,308 And some quite explicitly, 353 00:17:51,309 --> 00:17:54,699 Have said that they see their mission 354 00:17:54,700 --> 00:17:56,682 As helping the war effort. 355 00:17:56,683 --> 00:18:00,202 At MSNBC, I was on the air daily 356 00:18:00,203 --> 00:18:02,696 As a political and media analyst. 357 00:18:02,698 --> 00:18:04,586 And if you define your mission that way, 358 00:18:04,587 --> 00:18:06,273 You'll end up suppressing news 359 00:18:06,281 --> 00:18:07,777 That might be important, accurate, 360 00:18:07,785 --> 00:18:09,895 But maybe isn't helpful to the war effort. 361 00:18:09,897 --> 00:18:13,215 But I lost my time because they had to make room 362 00:18:13,225 --> 00:18:15,967 As we got closer to the invasion of Iraq 363 00:18:15,976 --> 00:18:19,486 For this endless parade of retired generals, 364 00:18:19,496 --> 00:18:23,428 Majors, admirals, former CIA chiefs, 365 00:18:23,431 --> 00:18:27,717 And we know now those people had no independence, 366 00:18:27,718 --> 00:18:30,691 They were being fed talking points by the pentagon, 367 00:18:30,693 --> 00:18:33,924 And most of what they said, as our country was driven to war, 368 00:18:33,925 --> 00:18:35,044 Was false. 369 00:18:41,988 --> 00:18:43,551 Wealthy insurance. 370 00:18:47,267 --> 00:18:50,113 From Pacifica, this is democracy now! 371 00:18:51,649 --> 00:18:53,759 Democracy now!, it's slightly larger, I think, 372 00:18:53,761 --> 00:18:56,351 Than the space I.F. Stone operated out of, 373 00:18:56,353 --> 00:18:58,587 But very much modeled on this idea 374 00:18:58,592 --> 00:19:01,565 Of the media being a sanctuary of dissent. 375 00:19:01,568 --> 00:19:04,386 You know, necessity is the mother of invention. 376 00:19:04,386 --> 00:19:05,822 We couldn't afford the satellites 377 00:19:05,823 --> 00:19:07,262 That the networks had. 378 00:19:07,263 --> 00:19:09,660 We worked with the internet from the beginning 379 00:19:09,662 --> 00:19:10,909 Out of necessity. 380 00:19:10,910 --> 00:19:15,513 Now, we're broadcasting on over 1300 radio 381 00:19:15,517 --> 00:19:17,023 And television stations. 382 00:19:17,024 --> 00:19:19,802 Public access TV, community radio, 383 00:19:19,804 --> 00:19:22,710 Public radio, PBS, public television, 384 00:19:22,716 --> 00:19:25,689 But we're not there to win a popularity contest. 385 00:19:25,692 --> 00:19:28,444 We're there to bring out the voices of people 386 00:19:28,445 --> 00:19:29,623 All over the world. 387 00:19:47,610 --> 00:19:51,576 From Pacifica radio, this is democracy now! 388 00:19:51,577 --> 00:19:55,960 Pope john Paul it's senior advisor has arrived in Baghdad 389 00:19:55,961 --> 00:19:57,945 For meetings with senior Iraqi leaders. 390 00:19:57,946 --> 00:19:59,824 Last night, he presided over a mass 391 00:19:59,832 --> 00:20:02,162 At st. Joseph's church in central Baghdad. 392 00:20:02,167 --> 00:20:05,754 Democracy now! Correspondent Jeremy Scahill was there. 393 00:20:09,141 --> 00:20:10,551 Regardless of their faith, 394 00:20:10,552 --> 00:20:13,042 Iraqis are praying for a miracle. 395 00:20:13,044 --> 00:20:15,893 Almost no one believes that war can be averted. 396 00:20:15,894 --> 00:20:18,999 John Paul ii has added his voice to the growing chorus 397 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,530 Against a war on Iraq, 398 00:20:20,531 --> 00:20:23,695 But it's unlikely that George W. Bush will listen. 399 00:20:23,698 --> 00:20:25,299 His own Methodist church has come out 400 00:20:25,300 --> 00:20:26,899 Against an attack on Iraq, 401 00:20:26,900 --> 00:20:29,391 And bush won't even meet with its leaders. 402 00:20:29,393 --> 00:20:33,009 For democracy now!, this is Jeremy Scahill in Baghdad. 403 00:20:43,535 --> 00:20:46,853 The problem is most of the big media are businesses. 404 00:20:46,863 --> 00:20:49,606 They respond to their investors, 405 00:20:49,614 --> 00:20:51,302 The stock market and their advertisers, 406 00:20:51,310 --> 00:20:54,829 And independent journalists bring their conscience to work 407 00:20:54,830 --> 00:20:57,937 And they call the situation as it really is factually, 408 00:20:57,938 --> 00:20:59,496 So they're a rare breed. 409 00:20:59,500 --> 00:21:02,377 They're not indentured to commercial motivation. 410 00:21:02,380 --> 00:21:05,794 Well, the problem is is the illusion of free press. 411 00:21:05,804 --> 00:21:08,902 You know, we don't have state media in the United States, 412 00:21:08,907 --> 00:21:12,043 But if we had it, how would it be any different? 413 00:21:13,002 --> 00:21:14,728 It's easy to criticize fox. 414 00:21:14,730 --> 00:21:17,607 It's fox, it's CNN, it's the new york times. 415 00:21:17,610 --> 00:21:19,653 That's why we need independent journalism. 416 00:21:19,657 --> 00:21:21,796 You know, that's why we need a media 417 00:21:21,801 --> 00:21:23,776 That challenges the corporate power. 418 00:21:23,784 --> 00:21:25,577 When we cover war, we can't be brought to you 419 00:21:25,577 --> 00:21:27,398 By the weapons manufacturers. 420 00:21:27,399 --> 00:21:29,355 When we cover climate change, we can't be brought to you 421 00:21:29,356 --> 00:21:31,268 By the oil, gas, coal, nuclear companies. 422 00:21:31,270 --> 00:21:33,025 When we cover healthcare, we can't be brought to you 423 00:21:33,030 --> 00:21:34,814 By the insurance and the drug companies. 424 00:21:34,822 --> 00:21:37,123 We have to have a media 425 00:21:37,125 --> 00:21:40,098 That is a counterbalance to those in power. 426 00:21:40,101 --> 00:21:42,911 It's the only equalizing force. 427 00:21:47,331 --> 00:21:48,991 I think the media is really nihilistic. 428 00:21:48,996 --> 00:21:50,627 It's... it's about making money. 429 00:21:52,002 --> 00:21:54,073 What makes money in this country happens to be 430 00:21:54,082 --> 00:21:56,700 Avoiding difficult truths about our society. 431 00:21:56,706 --> 00:22:00,003 You know, a story about what it's like to be on welfare, 432 00:22:00,004 --> 00:22:01,401 That's not a story, right? 433 00:22:01,409 --> 00:22:04,219 But you know, Kim Kardashian falls into a puddle 434 00:22:04,225 --> 00:22:05,692 In central park, that's a story. 435 00:22:05,696 --> 00:22:08,151 Well, Kim and Kanye, also known as Kimye, 436 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,092 Are expected to get married here in Florence this weekend 437 00:22:12,095 --> 00:22:13,562 In a Medici fortress 438 00:22:13,566 --> 00:22:17,181 That cost $400,000 to rent out. 439 00:22:17,182 --> 00:22:20,097 Erin McLaughlin, CNN, Florence, Italy. 440 00:22:35,612 --> 00:22:37,272 If you had to come up with a slogan 441 00:22:37,276 --> 00:22:38,840 For what our new media venture is, 442 00:22:38,843 --> 00:22:41,308 The one that Jeremy Scahill and Laura Poitras and I are... 443 00:22:41,309 --> 00:22:44,213 Are building under the aegis of first look media, 444 00:22:44,219 --> 00:22:47,000 You probably could use as a slogan, 445 00:22:47,002 --> 00:22:48,441 "the spirit of I.F. Stone, 446 00:22:48,441 --> 00:22:50,129 But funded with $250 million." 447 00:22:50,137 --> 00:22:52,439 Glenn Greenwald has been a lightning rod for controversy 448 00:22:52,441 --> 00:22:55,634 Since he obtained those secret NSA documents from Ed Snowden 449 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,242 And published some of them in the guardian. 450 00:22:57,243 --> 00:22:58,745 Now he's launching a media company 451 00:22:58,746 --> 00:23:02,800 Backed by wealthy ebay founder, Pierre Omidyar. 452 00:23:02,807 --> 00:23:05,742 The main thing is you got to encapsulate all of this 453 00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:08,944 In a way that it can't be decrypted 454 00:23:08,950 --> 00:23:11,923 And read when it's in transit across the network, 455 00:23:11,926 --> 00:23:14,323 Or on either of the end points. 456 00:23:14,325 --> 00:23:15,917 Okay, I mean, just so you know, 457 00:23:15,925 --> 00:23:18,322 These documents are basically all gonna be up-linked within, 458 00:23:18,324 --> 00:23:19,763 Like, 48 hours, 72 hours. 459 00:23:19,764 --> 00:23:21,519 This is... this is simply, you know, 460 00:23:21,524 --> 00:23:23,480 You want to get in the process of doing this for everything 461 00:23:23,481 --> 00:23:25,163 Because it seems hard, but it's not hard. 462 00:23:25,171 --> 00:23:26,312 This is super easy. 463 00:23:30,674 --> 00:23:32,400 Thank you so much to the academy. 464 00:23:32,401 --> 00:23:35,760 The disclosures that Edward Snowden reveals 465 00:23:35,761 --> 00:23:38,695 Don't only expose a threat to our privacy, 466 00:23:38,704 --> 00:23:40,584 But to our democracy itself, 467 00:23:40,591 --> 00:23:42,576 And I share this with Glenn Greenwald 468 00:23:42,576 --> 00:23:45,327 And other journalists who are exposing truth. 469 00:23:45,328 --> 00:23:46,506 Thank you. 470 00:23:53,964 --> 00:23:55,527 Was Mr. Daoud killed immediately 471 00:23:55,531 --> 00:23:57,900 Or did he live for a while after he was shot? 472 00:24:10,857 --> 00:24:14,760 You saw the us forces take the bullets out of the body? 473 00:24:17,512 --> 00:24:21,030 When Glenn Greenwald and Jeremy Scahill teamed up 474 00:24:21,031 --> 00:24:23,333 Together at the intercept, 475 00:24:23,335 --> 00:24:24,581 It was like a... 476 00:24:24,582 --> 00:24:26,405 A dream for adversarial journalists. 477 00:24:27,973 --> 00:24:31,779 And since 2014, they've been able, with their team, 478 00:24:31,780 --> 00:24:35,137 To break story after story of political corruption, 479 00:24:35,140 --> 00:24:37,666 Especially scoop after scoop 480 00:24:37,667 --> 00:24:40,640 About the national security surveillance state, 481 00:24:40,643 --> 00:24:43,711 Which mainstream journalists often tend to avoid 482 00:24:43,714 --> 00:24:46,849 Out of a false notion of patriotism. 483 00:24:46,849 --> 00:24:50,527 Good journalism today has the state in its cross-hairs, 484 00:24:50,528 --> 00:24:52,667 And you never want to punch down. 485 00:24:52,672 --> 00:24:54,178 You always want to punch up. 486 00:24:54,178 --> 00:24:55,845 That's what I think we're trying to do 487 00:24:55,846 --> 00:24:57,049 At the intercept. 488 00:24:58,302 --> 00:24:59,741 And then once you have that file, 489 00:24:59,743 --> 00:25:01,527 Just right click the file in the finder. 490 00:25:01,534 --> 00:25:03,232 Were they... were they able to decrypt it at all? 491 00:25:03,233 --> 00:25:04,285 I don't think so. 492 00:25:04,286 --> 00:25:05,503 Well, you look behind me 493 00:25:05,504 --> 00:25:07,352 And you see a news room full of fantastic, 494 00:25:07,357 --> 00:25:10,195 Independent reporters who come from all sorts of backgrounds, 495 00:25:10,204 --> 00:25:12,926 But this is still very much a... a project in development. 496 00:25:12,927 --> 00:25:14,650 I would say our mission statement is... 497 00:25:14,651 --> 00:25:16,665 Is to produce adversarial, fearless journalism. 498 00:25:16,667 --> 00:25:19,419 This central idea that, I think, everyone shares 499 00:25:19,420 --> 00:25:21,757 Is that the more power someone wields, 500 00:25:21,758 --> 00:25:23,729 The more journalistic accountability 501 00:25:23,737 --> 00:25:25,262 And scrutiny they need. 502 00:25:32,727 --> 00:25:35,191 I mean, it says explicitly there that they're... 503 00:25:35,192 --> 00:25:37,906 That it's supporting drone surveillance operations. 504 00:25:39,222 --> 00:25:41,942 Most of the bandwidth is on galaxy 26, 505 00:25:41,943 --> 00:25:44,340 And not an NRO secret site. 506 00:25:44,342 --> 00:25:45,905 That must be the satellite. 507 00:25:45,909 --> 00:25:49,620 Yeah, it can support up to 40 UAV sorties simultaneously. 508 00:25:49,621 --> 00:25:52,563 And these are satellites showing construction 509 00:25:52,564 --> 00:25:54,130 Of a facility in Germany 510 00:25:54,131 --> 00:25:56,490 That the us uses as part of its drone program. 511 00:25:56,499 --> 00:25:59,597 The German government basically is trying to argue 512 00:25:59,602 --> 00:26:00,753 That it doesn't have any... 513 00:26:00,754 --> 00:26:01,872 Any role at all 514 00:26:01,873 --> 00:26:03,724 In the targeted killing program, 515 00:26:03,729 --> 00:26:06,347 'cause that would be illegal under German law. 516 00:26:06,353 --> 00:26:09,391 It's a story that involves many countries 517 00:26:09,392 --> 00:26:12,586 Being involved with the us drone program 518 00:26:12,592 --> 00:26:16,073 And their governments either are not aware of it, or... 519 00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:17,709 Or they're lying, 520 00:26:17,710 --> 00:26:20,367 And that's part of what we're trying to nail down. 521 00:26:20,367 --> 00:26:22,991 Part of my discussion that was shown in citizen-four 522 00:26:22,992 --> 00:26:24,840 With Snowden had some reference 523 00:26:24,845 --> 00:26:25,996 To the use of Ramstein 524 00:26:25,997 --> 00:26:27,760 As part of a chain of command 525 00:26:27,761 --> 00:26:30,154 In which these drone executions are carried out. 526 00:26:32,460 --> 00:26:33,649 You know that? 527 00:26:34,794 --> 00:26:38,218 But the drone papers really solidified this... 528 00:26:38,219 --> 00:26:40,617 This role in a way that is really important 529 00:26:40,619 --> 00:26:42,086 And it created, actually, some debate 530 00:26:42,090 --> 00:26:43,594 And some scandal in Germany. 531 00:26:43,595 --> 00:26:47,400 The German population was almost entirely unaware of the role 532 00:26:47,401 --> 00:26:50,662 That Ramstein is playing in this program, and obviously, 533 00:26:50,665 --> 00:26:52,640 Germans overwhelmingly oppose the death penalty 534 00:26:52,648 --> 00:26:55,274 And so it stands to reason that if they had known about it, 535 00:26:55,275 --> 00:26:57,382 They never would have allowed it. 536 00:26:57,384 --> 00:26:58,947 This is the most sophisticated 537 00:26:58,951 --> 00:27:01,789 So-called clean way of bumping people off. 538 00:27:03,941 --> 00:27:06,598 I became sort of obsessed with this notion that a man 539 00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:09,311 Who is a constitutional lawyer by training, 540 00:27:09,317 --> 00:27:13,571 Who won the Nobel peace prize, is presiding over a... 541 00:27:13,572 --> 00:27:16,483 An attempt to legitimize 542 00:27:16,484 --> 00:27:19,198 And some would say, legalize assassination 543 00:27:19,204 --> 00:27:23,136 As a central component of us policy. 544 00:27:23,139 --> 00:27:26,716 I'll make our government open and transparent, 545 00:27:26,722 --> 00:27:28,160 So that anyone can ensure 546 00:27:28,161 --> 00:27:31,264 That our business is the people's business. 547 00:27:31,265 --> 00:27:33,057 Just as Louis Brandeis once said, 548 00:27:33,058 --> 00:27:35,415 "sunlight is the greatest disinfectant." 549 00:27:35,424 --> 00:27:37,438 Who would have thought that we'd get a president 550 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,550 Who is a charismatic, perhaps... 551 00:27:39,552 --> 00:27:40,961 Probably one of the smartest presidents, 552 00:27:40,962 --> 00:27:43,961 If not the smartest president in us history, 553 00:27:43,967 --> 00:27:46,173 With a great background in social justice causes 554 00:27:46,175 --> 00:27:49,915 Who would preside over more prosecutions of whistle blowers 555 00:27:49,918 --> 00:27:53,437 As spies than all previous administrations combined, 556 00:27:53,438 --> 00:27:56,248 Who would expand the drone program 557 00:27:56,253 --> 00:27:59,476 And try to legitimize the assassination program? 558 00:27:59,485 --> 00:28:00,665 When Obama was elected, 559 00:28:00,669 --> 00:28:01,983 He pledged that his administration 560 00:28:01,984 --> 00:28:04,023 Was going to be the most transparent in history. 561 00:28:04,028 --> 00:28:05,339 No more secrecy. 562 00:28:05,340 --> 00:28:07,230 That's the commitment I make to you as president. 563 00:28:12,889 --> 00:28:14,553 No more secrecy. 564 00:28:14,554 --> 00:28:17,009 You know, we'll work with sources 565 00:28:17,018 --> 00:28:19,156 Or with documents that we've obtained, 566 00:28:19,161 --> 00:28:21,559 And then you, you know, you try to hunt down 567 00:28:21,561 --> 00:28:23,766 The publicly available record on these things 568 00:28:23,768 --> 00:28:25,168 And I mean, an incredible amount of stuff 569 00:28:25,176 --> 00:28:26,845 Is sort of hidden in plain sight 570 00:28:26,846 --> 00:28:28,816 If you dig far enough. 571 00:28:28,823 --> 00:28:30,511 That's all of what I.F. Stone was doing. 572 00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:32,725 I guess what's different is that, you know, 573 00:28:32,727 --> 00:28:35,345 Part of what we do is try to cultivate sources 574 00:28:35,351 --> 00:28:37,173 And talk to people who are directly knowledgeable 575 00:28:37,174 --> 00:28:40,243 About various operations in the military 576 00:28:40,246 --> 00:28:43,410 Or the CIA or the NSA and then, you know, 577 00:28:43,413 --> 00:28:46,674 Then you start going down a rabbit hole. 578 00:28:47,794 --> 00:28:49,261 I mean, I've often said that I thought 579 00:28:49,266 --> 00:28:51,889 That I.F. Stone is the first blogger, 580 00:28:51,890 --> 00:28:56,398 Even though he existed before bloggers existed, 581 00:28:56,401 --> 00:28:58,606 But in my view, he really encapsulated 582 00:28:58,608 --> 00:29:00,593 What became the new media ethos, 583 00:29:00,594 --> 00:29:05,195 Which is the idea of working as independently as possible 584 00:29:05,199 --> 00:29:08,776 From all of the power factions and centers 585 00:29:08,782 --> 00:29:10,476 On which you're reporting, 586 00:29:10,477 --> 00:29:13,930 And what we've built here, in terms of our new media outlet, 587 00:29:13,933 --> 00:29:18,859 Is very much, I think, based on the ethos that he pioneered. 588 00:29:21,612 --> 00:29:24,650 Ooh, do you feel the breeze from the subway? 589 00:29:24,651 --> 00:29:26,214 Isn't it delicious? 590 00:29:44,905 --> 00:29:46,535 I got to meet I.F. Stone 591 00:29:46,536 --> 00:29:49,479 In the mid '80s in Washington, do. 592 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,414 I wanted to put out my own weekly moore's weekly, 593 00:29:52,423 --> 00:29:55,808 And I just wanted to go and talk to him about it. 594 00:29:55,814 --> 00:29:58,020 It was just an amazing afternoon 595 00:29:58,022 --> 00:30:00,132 That I got to have with him 596 00:30:00,134 --> 00:30:02,464 To really, kind of, pick his brain 597 00:30:02,469 --> 00:30:04,608 And tell him, you know, what I wanted to do 598 00:30:04,612 --> 00:30:06,204 And he gave me, you know, good advice. 599 00:30:06,212 --> 00:30:09,291 Advice I kind of already knew, because I'd read him, you know. 600 00:30:09,292 --> 00:30:10,751 His... his great motto 601 00:30:10,755 --> 00:30:12,606 Of all governments are run by liars 602 00:30:12,611 --> 00:30:14,270 And nothing they say should be believed, 603 00:30:14,275 --> 00:30:15,905 And he said... he said to me, 604 00:30:15,906 --> 00:30:17,315 But I would expand that now 605 00:30:17,316 --> 00:30:19,202 To governments, corporations, 606 00:30:19,203 --> 00:30:21,177 You know, it's not just the... the government. 607 00:30:21,185 --> 00:30:23,678 It's this... that... anybody in power. 608 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,147 You must start, as a journalist, 609 00:30:25,151 --> 00:30:27,549 With the assumption that they are lying to you. 610 00:30:27,551 --> 00:30:29,631 Now, some of them may not be lying, 611 00:30:29,632 --> 00:30:31,260 But it's their duty to prove to you, 612 00:30:31,261 --> 00:30:32,863 The journalist, that they're not lying. 613 00:30:34,331 --> 00:30:37,023 Through high school, I read I.F. Stone's weekly. 614 00:30:37,024 --> 00:30:38,487 One of the things I learned was that 615 00:30:38,490 --> 00:30:41,559 Humor isn't just about telling jokes 616 00:30:41,562 --> 00:30:43,353 Or just about funny ha-ha. 617 00:30:43,354 --> 00:30:47,957 Humor can be the most piercing of political weapons. 618 00:30:47,961 --> 00:30:51,251 I'm... I'm stunned that more people actually don't use humor 619 00:30:51,256 --> 00:30:53,239 Because it's so powerful, 620 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,241 And one of the great things that you learn about humor 621 00:30:56,247 --> 00:30:58,769 And good ridicule when in politics 622 00:30:58,774 --> 00:31:01,747 Is that it's very hard to respond to it. 623 00:31:01,750 --> 00:31:03,320 The FAA has taken the action 624 00:31:03,321 --> 00:31:06,453 To close all of the airports in the United States. 625 00:31:06,454 --> 00:31:08,812 Thousands of travelers were stranded. 626 00:31:08,820 --> 00:31:10,287 Among them, Ricky martin, 627 00:31:10,291 --> 00:31:12,785 Due to appear at tonight's Latin Grammy awards. 628 00:31:12,787 --> 00:31:15,410 Not even Ricky martin could fly. 629 00:31:15,411 --> 00:31:18,221 But really, who wanted to fly? 630 00:31:18,226 --> 00:31:19,441 No one. 631 00:31:19,442 --> 00:31:21,808 Except the Bin Ladens. 632 00:31:21,809 --> 00:31:25,291 โ™ช We got to get out of this place โ™ช 633 00:31:25,296 --> 00:31:28,874 โ™ช If it's the last thing we ever do โ™ช 634 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,056 That whole idea of how I found that thing 635 00:31:31,057 --> 00:31:32,715 On the FBI and the bush administration 636 00:31:32,719 --> 00:31:35,625 Allowing the bin Ladens to fly out the day after 9/11, 637 00:31:35,631 --> 00:31:37,682 That is directly from I.F. Stone. 638 00:31:37,682 --> 00:31:39,146 He said to me, he said, 639 00:31:39,150 --> 00:31:41,739 "when you pick up the paper, you go to page 17 first." 640 00:31:41,741 --> 00:31:42,959 Don't read the front page. 641 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,217 Skip the front page, go to page 17. 642 00:31:46,220 --> 00:31:47,916 'Cause that's where the truth is. 643 00:31:47,917 --> 00:31:49,324 And it's gonna be really small. 644 00:31:49,325 --> 00:31:51,913 It might be in a little two paragraph story, 645 00:31:51,915 --> 00:31:54,569 Or it'll be buried in paragraph 78, 646 00:31:54,570 --> 00:31:56,105 But that's where they're putting it, 647 00:31:56,106 --> 00:31:57,352 And they know what they're doing. 648 00:31:57,353 --> 00:31:58,571 "So, you just go right there." 649 00:31:58,572 --> 00:31:59,652 Yeah. 650 00:32:15,718 --> 00:32:18,182 What I saw and learned 651 00:32:18,183 --> 00:32:21,765 From reading I.F. Stone's weekly 652 00:32:21,766 --> 00:32:25,151 Was about an agenda 653 00:32:25,157 --> 00:32:27,075 That was not determined 654 00:32:27,077 --> 00:32:29,724 By conventional wisdom. 655 00:32:29,733 --> 00:32:34,019 To me, that's the real enemy of great reporting 656 00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:35,353 Is conventional wisdom. 657 00:32:35,364 --> 00:32:37,244 - Mrs. Hamblin? - Yes. 658 00:32:37,251 --> 00:32:39,714 Hi, we're from the Washington post. 659 00:32:39,715 --> 00:32:41,699 I'm Carl Bernstein, this is bob Woodward. 660 00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:44,096 A friend of the committee said that we could contact you. 661 00:32:44,098 --> 00:32:47,873 I brought no ideological baggage. 662 00:32:47,874 --> 00:32:50,912 Whatever my background was to Watergate, 663 00:32:50,913 --> 00:32:54,240 I brought a reportorial sense to it, 664 00:32:54,241 --> 00:32:55,871 Partly because I thought, 665 00:32:55,872 --> 00:32:57,598 "how could the president of the united sates 666 00:32:57,599 --> 00:32:59,259 Be involved in something this dumb?" 667 00:32:59,263 --> 00:33:00,702 At the beginning. 668 00:33:00,703 --> 00:33:03,254 Conventional wisdom is the enemy of good reporting 669 00:33:03,262 --> 00:33:05,046 And I think Izzy understood that. 670 00:33:05,054 --> 00:33:07,773 I understood that from the get-go. 671 00:33:07,774 --> 00:33:09,308 Can I help you in some way? 672 00:33:09,309 --> 00:33:10,968 Yeah, I'm Carl Bernstein, I've been waiting here 673 00:33:10,973 --> 00:33:12,220 - Since nine in the morning. - Would you wait outside? 674 00:33:12,221 --> 00:33:13,525 I've been waiting out since this morning. 675 00:33:13,533 --> 00:33:14,674 Go ahead and finish your call. 676 00:33:14,685 --> 00:33:15,577 Wait outside, please, will you? 677 00:33:15,580 --> 00:33:16,952 No, no, no, no, no. 678 00:33:16,956 --> 00:33:18,394 I'm the reporter from the Washington post. 679 00:33:18,395 --> 00:33:19,920 We talked on the telephone yesterday, 680 00:33:19,931 --> 00:33:21,494 And you told me to come on down here and I'm here. 681 00:33:21,498 --> 00:33:23,540 Okay, yeah, I got the press here. 682 00:33:23,545 --> 00:33:26,480 Watergate is an unusual instance, and I mean, 683 00:33:26,489 --> 00:33:28,694 At first people didn't believe the stories we were writing, 684 00:33:28,696 --> 00:33:31,286 Including most of our colleagues in the press in Washington. 685 00:33:31,288 --> 00:33:33,906 Watergate is an unusual instance 686 00:33:33,912 --> 00:33:35,962 In which the right things happened. 687 00:33:35,963 --> 00:33:37,618 Bernstein got another source. 688 00:33:37,623 --> 00:33:38,966 The guy at justice confirmed. 689 00:33:40,085 --> 00:33:42,003 If there's any doubt, we can run it tomorrow. 690 00:33:42,006 --> 00:33:43,864 You don't have to, the story's solid, we're sure of it. 691 00:33:43,865 --> 00:33:45,553 I just got off the phone with him, it's gold. 692 00:33:47,956 --> 00:33:49,519 Okay, we go with it. 693 00:34:17,009 --> 00:34:18,419 Normally, when I get in, 694 00:34:18,420 --> 00:34:21,140 Which is around this time, 1:00, 2:00, 2:30 P.M., 695 00:34:21,140 --> 00:34:23,056 I see what else the morning producer, 696 00:34:23,058 --> 00:34:24,813 'cause the morning producer leaves, 697 00:34:24,817 --> 00:34:27,119 Like, early afternoon around 3:00, 698 00:34:27,121 --> 00:34:29,710 But he's normally, you know, 699 00:34:29,712 --> 00:34:32,618 Checked out a few possible stories, 700 00:34:32,624 --> 00:34:34,704 So depending on what he suggests 701 00:34:34,705 --> 00:34:36,909 And he's often been in conversation with Amy, 702 00:34:36,911 --> 00:34:39,117 I immediately start reaching out to people 703 00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:42,120 To guess potential guests. 704 00:34:42,126 --> 00:34:43,757 Yeah, I think that should be fine. 705 00:34:43,758 --> 00:34:48,460 We'll just make sure to start with another segment 706 00:34:48,461 --> 00:34:50,120 And then, you could be on, 707 00:34:50,125 --> 00:34:52,906 Like, at 8:00, at 8:30. 708 00:34:56,587 --> 00:34:59,751 Amira Hass is here, and she leaves Saturday, 709 00:34:59,755 --> 00:35:02,891 So I think we should definitely have her in the studio tomorrow. 710 00:35:02,892 --> 00:35:04,297 Sharif is here. 711 00:35:04,298 --> 00:35:06,725 - And he has this investigation. - On Yemen, yeah. 712 00:35:06,729 --> 00:35:09,798 And then, anything else that happens in the world today. 713 00:35:09,801 --> 00:35:11,652 Okay, now going to pitch on the stations 714 00:35:11,657 --> 00:35:12,904 To make sure they're around 715 00:35:12,905 --> 00:35:14,784 So that we can continue to broadcast. 716 00:35:14,792 --> 00:35:16,614 Okay, that's great, Amy, thank you. 717 00:35:26,790 --> 00:35:28,420 So your son served in Iraq? 718 00:35:28,422 --> 00:35:32,603 Yeah, he survived like three ambushes, 719 00:35:32,613 --> 00:35:33,889 But he came out screwed up. 720 00:35:33,892 --> 00:35:37,604 He's, you know, the PTSD, you know. 721 00:35:41,123 --> 00:35:42,561 Here. 722 00:35:44,354 --> 00:35:46,559 Well, handsome man. 723 00:35:46,562 --> 00:35:48,030 Yeah. 724 00:35:48,033 --> 00:35:50,912 How many life has to be destroyed? 725 00:35:50,913 --> 00:35:52,218 How many family? 726 00:35:55,968 --> 00:35:58,106 Stupid wars, you know, it's like... 727 00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:02,037 But you feel kinda, you know, in danger. 728 00:36:02,047 --> 00:36:04,214 Have you been threatened before? 729 00:36:04,222 --> 00:36:08,541 There's dangers, yeah, of working there now. 730 00:36:08,542 --> 00:36:10,460 But the risks we take 731 00:36:10,462 --> 00:36:12,792 Are much less than what other people are doing, 732 00:36:12,797 --> 00:36:15,003 So especially people who work in human rights. 733 00:36:15,005 --> 00:36:18,745 They have much bigger risks and so, compared to them, you know, 734 00:36:18,748 --> 00:36:21,308 You get courage when you... when you see them work. 735 00:36:21,309 --> 00:36:23,609 You know, they say, you know, 736 00:36:23,611 --> 00:36:25,145 We're engaged in a war on terror, 737 00:36:25,146 --> 00:36:27,132 And they use the same language as they use here, 738 00:36:27,133 --> 00:36:28,597 "war on terror." 739 00:36:28,601 --> 00:36:31,227 But the policies just result in more terror, 740 00:36:31,228 --> 00:36:33,143 So we have more terrorism now, 741 00:36:33,145 --> 00:36:34,392 And more war. 742 00:36:38,166 --> 00:36:39,730 I started working in journalism 743 00:36:39,734 --> 00:36:44,117 Right around the beginning of the Iraq war in 2003. 744 00:36:46,037 --> 00:36:47,917 - Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you too. 745 00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:52,916 It was very frustrating as a young person 746 00:36:52,917 --> 00:36:55,411 Living here in new york, as an Arab, 747 00:36:55,413 --> 00:36:57,906 As someone who was newly politicized 748 00:36:57,908 --> 00:37:01,619 And watching this massive invasion being drummed up. 749 00:37:01,620 --> 00:37:04,401 One felt like you had to scream and say, "this is wrong." 750 00:37:04,403 --> 00:37:06,350 And there were these kinds of protests 751 00:37:06,354 --> 00:37:09,136 And it was when I first heard democracy now! 752 00:37:09,138 --> 00:37:11,792 And I first heard these kinds of voices 753 00:37:11,793 --> 00:37:14,670 That I hadn't heard at all on other airwaves. 754 00:37:14,673 --> 00:37:17,358 Voices of dissent, voices of opposition. 755 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,650 People who were not allowed on the air. 756 00:37:20,656 --> 00:37:23,377 I was very much drawn to this kind of journalism. 757 00:37:23,378 --> 00:37:24,843 My first day at democracy now! 758 00:37:24,847 --> 00:37:27,952 Is the first day of the Iraq war, March 19th, 2003. 759 00:37:27,953 --> 00:37:30,664 Reporter Nicholas Kulish who broke this story. 760 00:37:30,670 --> 00:37:33,133 All that and more, coming up. 761 00:37:33,134 --> 00:37:35,819 Amy Goodman has nurtured a number of journalists, 762 00:37:35,821 --> 00:37:37,988 Including Sharif Abdel Kouddous. 763 00:37:37,996 --> 00:37:40,873 He was a correspondent, a senior producer, 764 00:37:40,876 --> 00:37:42,948 He was occasionally a co-host, 765 00:37:42,955 --> 00:37:46,378 And then 2011, the uprising begins in Egypt, 766 00:37:46,379 --> 00:37:48,719 The country that Sharif was born in, 767 00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:51,620 And he flies to Egypt 768 00:37:51,626 --> 00:37:54,503 And country is almost unrecognizable to him. 769 00:37:54,506 --> 00:37:57,412 That the fear was gone and his vivid reporting 770 00:37:57,418 --> 00:38:00,904 Had millions of people following his reporting. 771 00:38:00,905 --> 00:38:03,043 It's just after 10:00 A.M. On Tuesday morning. 772 00:38:03,048 --> 00:38:05,407 Today marks the one week anniversary 773 00:38:05,416 --> 00:38:08,583 Of the popular uprising that began January 25th. 774 00:38:08,584 --> 00:38:11,749 There's more people here than I have ever seen in Tahrir, 775 00:38:11,751 --> 00:38:13,219 Yet in this revolt. 776 00:38:13,223 --> 00:38:14,505 Today's the day that they say 777 00:38:14,506 --> 00:38:16,161 They're going to get Mubarak out. 778 00:38:22,308 --> 00:38:24,091 For more, we're joined by Sharif Abdel Kouddous 779 00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:25,855 Who's just returned from Yemen. 780 00:38:25,860 --> 00:38:27,490 He's a democracy now! Correspondent, 781 00:38:27,491 --> 00:38:29,026 A fellow at the nation institute, 782 00:38:29,027 --> 00:38:32,805 And he's recently written a piece for the global post called 783 00:38:32,806 --> 00:38:36,609 "with us help, Saudi Arabia is obliterating Yemen." 784 00:38:36,610 --> 00:38:39,324 It's the first of a two part series on Yemen. 785 00:38:39,330 --> 00:38:41,564 Sharif, start off by just explaining 786 00:38:41,569 --> 00:38:44,542 What you found in your weeks-long trip there. 787 00:38:44,545 --> 00:38:45,827 Well, I spent most of the time 788 00:38:45,828 --> 00:38:47,551 In the outhits controlled north of Yemen 789 00:38:47,551 --> 00:38:48,760 And this is an area 790 00:38:48,767 --> 00:38:50,426 That's been pounded relentlessly 791 00:38:50,431 --> 00:38:54,493 For the past nine months with near daily air strikes. 792 00:38:54,494 --> 00:38:56,566 You can't visit a city or a town in Yemen 793 00:38:56,573 --> 00:38:59,546 Without seeing the destruction on the ground. 794 00:38:59,549 --> 00:39:02,071 Everything has been hit from homes 795 00:39:02,076 --> 00:39:04,570 To schools, restaurants, bridges, roads, 796 00:39:04,572 --> 00:39:07,506 A lot of civilian infrastructure and... 797 00:39:07,515 --> 00:39:10,037 And with that, of course, comes a lot of the suffering. 798 00:39:14,201 --> 00:39:17,491 The Saudi bombing campaign is backed by the United States 799 00:39:17,497 --> 00:39:19,451 With logistics and intelligence support, 800 00:39:19,452 --> 00:39:22,775 And I think that's a fact that many Americans don't realize 801 00:39:22,776 --> 00:39:25,941 That they're complicit with their tax dollars 802 00:39:25,944 --> 00:39:28,341 In this conflict that has civilians 803 00:39:28,343 --> 00:39:30,774 At the epicenter of its suffering. 804 00:39:30,775 --> 00:39:32,434 Be very careful back there. 805 00:39:32,438 --> 00:39:33,465 I will. 806 00:39:40,596 --> 00:39:42,802 These are mass graves they're combing all day. 807 00:39:42,804 --> 00:39:43,955 Every one is different. 808 00:39:43,956 --> 00:39:46,420 Would you want your son buried that way? 809 00:39:46,421 --> 00:39:48,884 Or your mom or your sister or your brother? 810 00:39:48,885 --> 00:39:52,144 I mean, this isn't how you want someone you love to be buried. 811 00:40:06,097 --> 00:40:07,696 So good to see you. 812 00:40:07,697 --> 00:40:09,480 You too, sorry, I'm standing in the door to keep it open. 813 00:40:09,488 --> 00:40:10,764 Ah, how are you guys? 814 00:40:10,767 --> 00:40:12,235 I'm great, thank you. 815 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,799 Good, well, we could do the elevator or the stairs. 816 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:15,853 How many flights up? 817 00:40:19,086 --> 00:40:21,963 Hey, Audrey, do you remember john? 818 00:40:21,966 --> 00:40:24,009 Audrey, john, nice to meet you. 819 00:40:24,014 --> 00:40:25,481 Thank you so much for doing the work. 820 00:40:36,492 --> 00:40:38,602 Okay, john, so this is what 821 00:40:38,604 --> 00:40:41,579 We end up with oftentimes. 822 00:40:41,580 --> 00:40:44,102 So, you can see these are really white 823 00:40:44,107 --> 00:40:45,967 Because they're sun bleached. 824 00:40:45,968 --> 00:40:50,441 So, this person was out for a long period of time, 825 00:40:50,442 --> 00:40:55,303 And they also sustained quite a bit of carnivore damage, 826 00:40:55,304 --> 00:40:57,443 But you can see this is an individual 827 00:40:57,448 --> 00:41:01,766 Who has 206 bones at a minimum in their body, 828 00:41:01,767 --> 00:41:03,331 And we have three. 829 00:41:03,334 --> 00:41:05,799 And there's no way you will ever identify this person. 830 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,782 Well, we have taken a DNA sample 831 00:41:07,783 --> 00:41:09,728 And this was actually analyzed 832 00:41:09,733 --> 00:41:11,621 At the central identification lab 833 00:41:11,622 --> 00:41:13,155 Through the joint armed forces. 834 00:41:13,156 --> 00:41:17,058 It could be if we can match this DNA sample to a family. 835 00:41:26,306 --> 00:41:30,817 I have no doubt that if 200 poodles were mis-buried, 836 00:41:30,818 --> 00:41:32,160 Everybody would be up in arms. 837 00:41:32,161 --> 00:41:34,722 We'd probably change some sort of poodle law 838 00:41:34,723 --> 00:41:36,792 To make sure that these were buried properly. 839 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,035 The fact that these were 200 human migrants, 840 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,437 Mostly Latin American, 841 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,521 Is the reason that nothing has been done. 842 00:41:45,887 --> 00:41:47,967 It's the sole reason that nothing has been done. 843 00:41:47,968 --> 00:41:49,501 These people don't count. 844 00:41:49,502 --> 00:41:51,324 For the most part, they're considered to be criminal. 845 00:41:51,325 --> 00:41:52,667 They're here to rob your jobs, 846 00:41:52,668 --> 00:41:54,527 They're here to ruin our economy. 847 00:41:54,528 --> 00:41:57,142 Donald trump would like to build a wall to separate us from them. 848 00:41:57,148 --> 00:41:59,546 They're marginalized and they're vilified, 849 00:41:59,548 --> 00:42:04,017 So if they die and are thrown into a hole in the ground, 850 00:42:04,026 --> 00:42:05,206 Good riddance. 851 00:42:06,136 --> 00:42:07,508 Para ti. 852 00:42:09,048 --> 00:42:10,166 ยฟComo Te llamas? 853 00:42:10,167 --> 00:42:11,347 - Carlos. - Carlos. 854 00:42:11,351 --> 00:42:12,853 Soy Reportero. 855 00:42:33,493 --> 00:42:37,460 My father really believed in the importance of a free press. 856 00:42:37,460 --> 00:42:41,297 He once told me, "if something goes wrong with the government", 857 00:42:41,300 --> 00:42:43,822 A free press will ferret it out, 858 00:42:43,827 --> 00:42:45,227 And it will get fixed. 859 00:42:45,234 --> 00:42:47,219 But if something goes wrong with the free press, 860 00:42:47,220 --> 00:42:49,328 "The country will go straight to hell." 861 00:42:49,330 --> 00:42:51,568 This is the typewriter on which 862 00:42:51,569 --> 00:42:54,830 My father typed with two fingers. 863 00:42:54,833 --> 00:42:56,655 So, how long was he using this typewriter? 864 00:42:56,656 --> 00:42:58,798 Well, as long as I can remember, really. 865 00:42:58,799 --> 00:43:00,842 It's a... it's amazing that he would type with two fingers. 866 00:43:00,847 --> 00:43:03,089 So, he never... he never learned how to type with... 867 00:43:03,090 --> 00:43:04,620 He wasn't very mechanical. 868 00:43:04,621 --> 00:43:07,882 In fact, our cars kept breaking down 869 00:43:07,885 --> 00:43:09,832 Because he never changed the oil. 870 00:43:22,635 --> 00:43:26,633 I.F. Stone was both an investigator and a writer 871 00:43:26,634 --> 00:43:30,697 With sarcasm and wit and humor in his work, 872 00:43:30,698 --> 00:43:32,328 And today's I.F. Stones, 873 00:43:32,329 --> 00:43:35,110 A lot of them don't come to that level of writing, 874 00:43:35,112 --> 00:43:38,823 Except when you think of Matt Taibbi. 875 00:43:38,824 --> 00:43:40,962 The media has spent decades turning the news 876 00:43:40,967 --> 00:43:42,051 Into a consumer business 877 00:43:42,055 --> 00:43:43,618 That's basically indistinguishable 878 00:43:43,622 --> 00:43:45,674 From selling cheeseburgers or video games. 879 00:43:46,404 --> 00:43:47,459 You want bigger margins, 880 00:43:47,461 --> 00:43:48,669 You just cram the product full 881 00:43:48,676 --> 00:43:50,726 Of more fat and sugar and violence 882 00:43:50,727 --> 00:43:53,217 And you wait for your obese, over-stimulated consumer 883 00:43:53,219 --> 00:43:54,818 To come waddling forth. 884 00:43:57,378 --> 00:43:59,939 Breaking news right now, just coming into the ABC... 885 00:43:59,940 --> 00:44:02,240 The death toll has risen even higher today. 886 00:44:02,242 --> 00:44:04,706 We start with celebrities behaving badly. 887 00:44:04,707 --> 00:44:06,815 Squealing, like, panda lovers all over the planet 888 00:44:06,817 --> 00:44:10,299 Riveted as this mama bear delivers a cub, and then... 889 00:44:10,304 --> 00:44:12,568 People can vape without... 890 00:44:12,576 --> 00:44:15,415 As his hover booster board burst into... 891 00:44:15,424 --> 00:44:17,217 Congresswoman, let me interrupt you just for a moment, 892 00:44:17,218 --> 00:44:19,009 We've got some breaking news out of Miami. 893 00:44:19,009 --> 00:44:21,021 Stand by, if you will. 894 00:44:21,022 --> 00:44:23,744 Right now, in Miami, Justin Bieber has been arrested 895 00:44:23,745 --> 00:44:25,047 On a number of charges that... 896 00:44:26,429 --> 00:44:28,701 What we call right wing and liberal media in this country 897 00:44:28,702 --> 00:44:30,361 Are really just two different strategies 898 00:44:30,365 --> 00:44:33,884 Of the same kind of nihilistic lizard-brain sensationalism. 899 00:44:33,885 --> 00:44:36,607 There's nothing but murders, bombs, and panda births 900 00:44:36,608 --> 00:44:38,331 Delivering to thickening couch potatoes 901 00:44:38,332 --> 00:44:42,552 In ever briefer blasts of 40, 30, 20 seconds. 902 00:44:44,698 --> 00:44:46,300 The world's most powerful investment bank 903 00:44:46,301 --> 00:44:49,300 Is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, 904 00:44:49,306 --> 00:44:52,250 Relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything 905 00:44:52,251 --> 00:44:54,455 That smells like money. 906 00:44:54,457 --> 00:44:56,375 And the funny part about that is, of course, 907 00:44:56,377 --> 00:44:58,928 Vampire squids don't have blood funnels, 908 00:44:58,936 --> 00:45:02,350 So we had a fact checking issue with that, and it was... 909 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,173 But I thought that was part of what made that funny 910 00:45:04,183 --> 00:45:07,060 Was that, you know, it was a nonsensical image, right. 911 00:45:07,063 --> 00:45:08,694 You know, you had this thing that was 912 00:45:08,695 --> 00:45:10,258 At once terrifying, and ridiculous. 913 00:45:10,262 --> 00:45:13,177 I thought that summed up what the bank was all about. 914 00:45:18,162 --> 00:45:21,519 In news from Iraq, at least 16 people were killed Thursday 915 00:45:21,522 --> 00:45:24,840 In clashes between us troops and Shia militias in Baghdad. 916 00:45:24,850 --> 00:45:28,302 The dead included a photographer for the Reuters news agency, 917 00:45:28,304 --> 00:45:29,608 And his driver. 918 00:45:29,616 --> 00:45:32,397 They apparently came under fire from a us helicopter. 919 00:46:18,603 --> 00:46:20,655 In December, democracy now! Traveled 920 00:46:20,656 --> 00:46:22,501 To the Calais refugee camp. 921 00:46:22,506 --> 00:46:24,808 The largest refugee camp in France, 922 00:46:24,810 --> 00:46:27,016 About two hours north of Paris. 923 00:46:27,017 --> 00:46:29,990 Six to seven thousand people are living there, 924 00:46:29,993 --> 00:46:31,911 Camped out in makeshift tents. 925 00:46:33,224 --> 00:46:35,526 Occasionally people stop to talk, 926 00:46:35,529 --> 00:46:38,279 But we've been warned over and over 927 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,004 That people don't want their faces shown. 928 00:46:41,702 --> 00:46:43,110 They're afraid. 929 00:46:43,111 --> 00:46:44,962 They're afraid of being targeted here 930 00:46:44,967 --> 00:46:46,441 And they're afraid their families 931 00:46:46,442 --> 00:46:48,001 Will be targeted at home. 932 00:46:49,188 --> 00:46:51,163 Were there drone strikes... 933 00:46:51,172 --> 00:46:52,965 Yes, there were drone attacks. 934 00:46:52,966 --> 00:46:56,674 They are always killing innocent people in the villages. 935 00:46:56,675 --> 00:47:01,314 Civilians become very angry and they join the group of Taliban. 936 00:47:01,315 --> 00:47:04,480 So, what do you think the us should be doing now? 937 00:47:04,482 --> 00:47:07,873 You know, us is just increasing the war. 938 00:47:07,874 --> 00:47:11,326 Actually, us don't want to finish the war. 939 00:47:11,328 --> 00:47:12,862 It's their game. 940 00:47:12,863 --> 00:47:15,102 It's the game of... 941 00:47:15,103 --> 00:47:17,788 George W. Bush, Obama. 942 00:47:17,790 --> 00:47:21,722 They don't care about the people who are dying there. 943 00:47:21,726 --> 00:47:24,735 President Obama said the war is ending in Afghanistan. 944 00:47:24,736 --> 00:47:26,047 Do you see it ending? 945 00:47:27,772 --> 00:47:29,623 Until Americans leave Afghanistan, 946 00:47:29,628 --> 00:47:32,155 It will be not ending. 947 00:47:32,156 --> 00:47:33,556 Never. 948 00:47:33,563 --> 00:47:34,964 The map of this camp, 949 00:47:34,971 --> 00:47:38,905 It's a map of where refugees are from. 950 00:47:38,906 --> 00:47:40,661 Most of these countries have been bombed 951 00:47:40,666 --> 00:47:42,521 By the United States. 952 00:47:42,522 --> 00:47:44,919 Syria, Afghanistan, 953 00:47:44,921 --> 00:47:46,580 Iraq, Sudan. 954 00:47:47,768 --> 00:47:49,782 I didn't think about it, but that is true. 955 00:47:50,999 --> 00:47:52,466 What's very important to explain 956 00:47:52,471 --> 00:47:54,322 And what's systematically lacking 957 00:47:54,327 --> 00:47:56,628 In all the accounts that I had come across 958 00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:58,357 In the mainstream media, 959 00:47:58,357 --> 00:47:59,825 Why is this happening? 960 00:47:59,829 --> 00:48:01,363 Why are these people where they are? 961 00:48:01,364 --> 00:48:05,171 Why are they suffering the most inhumane conditions, 962 00:48:05,171 --> 00:48:07,538 The most abject degradation, 963 00:48:07,539 --> 00:48:09,937 And of course, it's very important to have empathy 964 00:48:09,939 --> 00:48:12,461 And solidarity for the suffering of these people, 965 00:48:12,466 --> 00:48:14,029 But we can't think that the suffering 966 00:48:14,033 --> 00:48:15,376 Has fallen out of the sky, 967 00:48:15,377 --> 00:48:17,065 And they're just particularly benighted 968 00:48:17,072 --> 00:48:20,082 Because they happen to have been the subject of that, right. 969 00:48:20,083 --> 00:48:22,218 There are policies that have been enacted. 970 00:48:22,223 --> 00:48:24,141 There are decisions that have been made. 971 00:48:24,143 --> 00:48:25,774 There are bombs that have been dropped. 972 00:48:25,775 --> 00:48:28,613 As a consequence of which, these millions of people 973 00:48:28,622 --> 00:48:30,502 Are destitute in the way that they are, 974 00:48:30,509 --> 00:48:33,580 And we have to allow them to tell that story. 975 00:48:33,581 --> 00:48:37,321 Do you think the Russian, Syrian, french, 976 00:48:37,324 --> 00:48:40,650 British bombing of Syria will save it? 977 00:48:40,651 --> 00:48:41,994 No, no, no. 978 00:48:41,995 --> 00:48:44,073 It's not the solution. 979 00:48:44,074 --> 00:48:47,718 You can't protect someone by killing someone else. 980 00:48:54,888 --> 00:48:57,418 In international waters, in the gulf of tonkin, 981 00:48:57,419 --> 00:48:59,305 Destroyers of the United States navy 982 00:48:59,305 --> 00:49:02,400 Are assigned routine patrols from time to time. 983 00:49:02,406 --> 00:49:05,221 Sunday, August the 2nd, 1964, 984 00:49:05,222 --> 00:49:08,032 The destroyer, Maddox, was on such a patrol. 985 00:49:08,038 --> 00:49:10,943 Shortly after noon, the calm of the day is broken 986 00:49:10,949 --> 00:49:12,647 As general quarters sound. 987 00:49:14,019 --> 00:49:16,167 In a deliberate and unprovoked action, 988 00:49:16,168 --> 00:49:19,904 Three north Vietnam pt boats unleash a torpedo attack 989 00:49:19,907 --> 00:49:21,537 Against the Maddox. 990 00:49:21,538 --> 00:49:23,782 A classic example of I.F. Stone's ability 991 00:49:23,783 --> 00:49:27,326 To ferret out something when no one else was doing it 992 00:49:27,329 --> 00:49:31,711 Was the gulf of tonkin excuse for going into Vietnam. 993 00:50:01,150 --> 00:50:05,782 Three weeks after we had the so-called attack 994 00:50:05,790 --> 00:50:09,821 By the north Vietnamese, Izzy read all the after reports, 995 00:50:09,822 --> 00:50:13,274 And he said, "where... where's the debris if we had been hit?" 996 00:50:13,277 --> 00:50:15,224 Why isn't there more being talked about?" 997 00:50:15,229 --> 00:50:17,559 And he said there were all kinds of excuses 998 00:50:17,564 --> 00:50:19,933 Why this little, tiny country would go against 999 00:50:19,934 --> 00:50:21,495 The largest fleet in the world, 1000 00:50:21,499 --> 00:50:24,985 Except the fact that it might have been provoked. 1001 00:50:24,986 --> 00:50:28,026 All of the media was just following it right into war, 1002 00:50:28,027 --> 00:50:30,298 As was congress, and I keep thinking 1003 00:50:30,299 --> 00:50:33,366 If the mainstream media had followed Izzy, 1004 00:50:33,369 --> 00:50:35,767 We might not have had that ten year disaster. 1005 00:50:44,375 --> 00:50:46,965 We hadn't been able to get it through our heads 1006 00:50:46,966 --> 00:50:49,556 That this is a political war. 1007 00:50:49,558 --> 00:50:50,900 All you have to ask yourself is 1008 00:50:50,901 --> 00:50:54,354 Why is it that here are Vietnamese 1009 00:50:54,357 --> 00:50:55,824 On one side, on our side, 1010 00:50:55,828 --> 00:50:58,609 And here are the same Vietnamese on the other side. 1011 00:50:58,611 --> 00:51:00,817 And on one side, they have very little in the way of arms. 1012 00:51:00,819 --> 00:51:03,924 They have no air force, no napalm, no big boom-boom, 1013 00:51:03,925 --> 00:51:05,744 And they really fight magnificently. 1014 00:51:05,745 --> 00:51:08,335 And on our side, you have five times as many troops, 1015 00:51:08,337 --> 00:51:11,250 All that equipment, all that firepower, all that artillery, 1016 00:51:11,251 --> 00:51:13,003 And they're not worth a damn. 1017 00:51:13,008 --> 00:51:15,473 A lot of people protested I.F. Stone's being on, 1018 00:51:15,474 --> 00:51:17,937 Because can you imagine he had the nerve 1019 00:51:17,938 --> 00:51:21,422 To say things against our war policy? 1020 00:51:21,423 --> 00:51:22,861 Well, it was bold at the time 1021 00:51:22,862 --> 00:51:26,189 When we were suffering with all kinds of things. 1022 00:51:26,190 --> 00:51:28,463 Assassinations, and the Vietnam war, 1023 00:51:28,464 --> 00:51:31,109 A subject on which stone was quite brilliant, 1024 00:51:31,118 --> 00:51:32,585 And how we got into it 1025 00:51:32,589 --> 00:51:34,603 And how we were probably never gonna get out of it 1026 00:51:34,605 --> 00:51:36,015 The way we were going and it was... 1027 00:51:36,016 --> 00:51:38,284 Took guts to say those things. 1028 00:51:38,285 --> 00:51:40,586 The extreme right and the hate mail writers 1029 00:51:40,588 --> 00:51:42,187 Were always ready to go. 1030 00:51:42,188 --> 00:51:45,132 Ask any solider back from Vietnam, he'll agree with me. 1031 00:51:45,133 --> 00:51:47,462 I don't mean to say there aren't brave men among them, 1032 00:51:47,467 --> 00:51:50,281 And some good troops, but on the whole, 1033 00:51:50,282 --> 00:51:52,421 The men on one side are fighting 1034 00:51:52,426 --> 00:51:54,986 And the men on the other side don't care and are deserting. 1035 00:51:54,987 --> 00:51:56,232 Why is this? 1036 00:51:56,233 --> 00:51:57,930 Why, because the men on the other side 1037 00:51:57,931 --> 00:51:59,817 Feel they're fighting for freedom. 1038 00:51:59,818 --> 00:52:01,351 They're fighting for freedom from... 1039 00:52:01,352 --> 00:52:04,900 From domination by the white man, and by the westerner. 1040 00:52:04,903 --> 00:52:07,847 I.F. Stone would be debunking the official fictions 1041 00:52:07,848 --> 00:52:10,311 As soon as government was spewing them. 1042 00:52:10,312 --> 00:52:13,283 Whether it was during the Joe McCarthy era, 1043 00:52:13,286 --> 00:52:16,096 Or all of the lies about Vietnam. 1044 00:52:16,102 --> 00:52:18,212 You could read Izzy stone within a week, 1045 00:52:18,213 --> 00:52:20,323 And he was debunking these fictions. 1046 00:52:21,828 --> 00:52:24,932 We need to know what governments do. 1047 00:52:24,933 --> 00:52:26,975 We need to know what's real, 1048 00:52:26,980 --> 00:52:29,857 And we need to know what's bullshit. 1049 00:52:30,881 --> 00:52:32,512 And that's the biggest problem, 1050 00:52:32,514 --> 00:52:36,127 And Izzy was great 1051 00:52:36,128 --> 00:52:38,718 At saying, "hey, I checked." 1052 00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:40,762 This is bullshit." 1053 00:52:40,767 --> 00:52:44,094 Just as Izzy wrote and published I.F. Stone's weekly 1054 00:52:44,095 --> 00:52:46,042 Out of his home with his wife, 1055 00:52:46,047 --> 00:52:48,022 Esther, managing the accounts, 1056 00:52:48,030 --> 00:52:51,709 Tom Engelhardt with his blog, Tomdispatch. Com, 1057 00:52:51,710 --> 00:52:54,616 Is another example of how a journalist 1058 00:52:54,622 --> 00:52:57,211 Working from a small office at home 1059 00:52:57,213 --> 00:52:59,515 Can reach a very wide audience 1060 00:52:59,516 --> 00:53:02,267 With independent reporting and analysis. 1061 00:53:02,268 --> 00:53:03,677 On how I started Tomdispatch, 1062 00:53:03,678 --> 00:53:06,227 You'd have to go back to literally to 9/11, 1063 00:53:06,236 --> 00:53:09,046 And our news began to constrict, you know, 1064 00:53:09,051 --> 00:53:11,389 In a way I hadn't seen, even at the height of the cold war, 1065 00:53:11,390 --> 00:53:12,787 As far as I was concerned. 1066 00:53:12,794 --> 00:53:15,633 And I suddenly realized that out there, 1067 00:53:15,642 --> 00:53:17,116 There was another kind of news. 1068 00:53:17,117 --> 00:53:19,031 I started obsessively gathering this stuff, 1069 00:53:19,033 --> 00:53:21,402 And then, and writing little comments, 1070 00:53:21,403 --> 00:53:23,731 And my little comments became a kind of commentary 1071 00:53:23,736 --> 00:53:25,882 And then this was the miracle of the internet, 1072 00:53:25,883 --> 00:53:27,382 People started jumping on. 1073 00:53:27,383 --> 00:53:29,042 People started writing me and saying, "can I be on your list?" 1074 00:53:29,047 --> 00:53:30,553 I didn't even really know I had a list, 1075 00:53:30,554 --> 00:53:32,565 And suddenly, I had a list of 400 people 1076 00:53:32,567 --> 00:53:35,672 Including journalists and I mean, Susan Sontag wrote me, 1077 00:53:35,673 --> 00:53:36,821 I mean, out of the blue. 1078 00:53:36,822 --> 00:53:37,839 I didn't know Susan Sontag. 1079 00:53:37,846 --> 00:53:39,342 I'm now almost 71. 1080 00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:40,980 I'm plunged into, I was from the beginning, 1081 00:53:40,981 --> 00:53:43,186 Plunged into a world of much younger people. 1082 00:53:43,188 --> 00:53:44,752 I had no idea what I was doing, 1083 00:53:44,755 --> 00:53:47,220 But I had been working as a book editor 1084 00:53:47,221 --> 00:53:48,466 With great writers for years. 1085 00:53:48,467 --> 00:53:50,797 Chalmers Johnson, all sorts of people. 1086 00:53:50,802 --> 00:53:53,324 And I started asking them once this thing started, 1087 00:53:53,329 --> 00:53:55,535 I started asking them if they wanted to, you know, 1088 00:53:55,537 --> 00:53:58,738 Write and it was like this kind of communal activity, 1089 00:53:58,739 --> 00:54:02,026 And it's turned from that thing that it was into what it is now, 1090 00:54:02,032 --> 00:54:04,650 Which is my little intros and then a piece. 1091 00:54:04,656 --> 00:54:06,641 I mean, it could be by me or by any one of a... 1092 00:54:06,642 --> 00:54:09,391 I think a pretty striking set of writers. 1093 00:54:20,812 --> 00:54:22,825 The establishment reporters, without a doubt, 1094 00:54:22,827 --> 00:54:24,716 Know a lot of things I don't know, 1095 00:54:24,717 --> 00:54:27,074 But a lot of what they know isn't true. 1096 00:54:27,083 --> 00:54:30,948 He was a fantastic journalist and the... 1097 00:54:30,953 --> 00:54:32,648 As he himself pointed out, 1098 00:54:32,649 --> 00:54:35,208 The greatest contribution to his career 1099 00:54:35,209 --> 00:54:36,743 Was his being excluded. 1100 00:54:37,991 --> 00:54:39,333 He didn't have, as he pointed out, 1101 00:54:39,335 --> 00:54:40,936 He didn't have to waste his time 1102 00:54:40,937 --> 00:54:43,429 Going to press conferences 'cause he wasn't invited, 1103 00:54:43,430 --> 00:54:46,020 So he didn't have to hear all the deceit and the lies 1104 00:54:46,022 --> 00:54:48,103 And so he didn't have to waste his time repeating them. 1105 00:54:48,104 --> 00:54:50,758 He could just go straight to the documents, 1106 00:54:50,759 --> 00:54:53,672 To the historical record, see what's happening, 1107 00:54:53,673 --> 00:54:55,423 And he did it brilliantly. 1108 00:54:58,818 --> 00:55:00,410 Going in the white house and going 1109 00:55:00,419 --> 00:55:02,529 And asking questions of the press secretary, 1110 00:55:02,531 --> 00:55:04,478 It's a job that some people have to do. 1111 00:55:04,482 --> 00:55:08,001 It's not often that you develop new information from doing that, 1112 00:55:08,002 --> 00:55:10,687 And it just becomes a battle of spins. 1113 00:55:10,689 --> 00:55:12,090 I do remember going once 1114 00:55:12,097 --> 00:55:14,944 And Ari Fleischer was press secretary 1115 00:55:14,945 --> 00:55:18,781 And he kept, just saying the same thing. 1116 00:55:18,784 --> 00:55:21,143 "No, it's true, it's true." 1117 00:55:21,151 --> 00:55:23,808 I go, "but this report just came out from wherever" 1118 00:55:23,809 --> 00:55:26,560 And it says that actually that didn't happen." 1119 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,705 And he goes, "no, but it did happen." 1120 00:55:28,706 --> 00:55:32,346 And I really felt like I was talking to a guy who was saying, 1121 00:55:32,349 --> 00:55:33,721 "the sky is green." 1122 00:55:33,725 --> 00:55:35,930 And I would say, "no, no, no, actually, the sky is blue." 1123 00:55:35,932 --> 00:55:38,771 He goes, "no, no, the sky is green." 1124 00:55:38,780 --> 00:55:41,944 And you can only do that so much, and people, you know, 1125 00:55:41,947 --> 00:55:44,412 Who are on that side will say, damn it is! 1126 00:55:45,529 --> 00:55:47,515 We ask each nation on the security council 1127 00:55:47,516 --> 00:55:50,554 To weigh the merits that make a decision about war and peace, 1128 00:55:50,555 --> 00:55:54,263 And if anybody thinks that there are nations, like Mexico, 1129 00:55:54,264 --> 00:55:57,237 Whose vote could be bought on the basis of a trade issue 1130 00:55:57,240 --> 00:55:59,962 Or something else like that, I think you're giving... 1131 00:55:59,963 --> 00:56:02,386 Do a grave injustice to the independence 1132 00:56:02,391 --> 00:56:04,722 And the judgment of the leaders of other nations. 1133 00:56:04,726 --> 00:56:06,453 Think about the implications what you're saying. 1134 00:56:06,454 --> 00:56:09,398 You're saying that the leaders of other nations are buy-able 1135 00:56:09,399 --> 00:56:11,536 And that is not an acceptable proposition. 1136 00:56:14,548 --> 00:56:15,574 Thank you. 1137 00:56:28,625 --> 00:56:30,476 Good afternoon, everybody. 1138 00:56:30,482 --> 00:56:33,071 What concerns does the president have 1139 00:56:33,073 --> 00:56:36,975 About the possibility that Donald trump could someday 1140 00:56:36,976 --> 00:56:38,990 Be the us commander in chief? 1141 00:56:38,992 --> 00:56:41,102 The president has confidence 1142 00:56:41,104 --> 00:56:43,243 That if Mr. Trump is the republican nominee, 1143 00:56:43,247 --> 00:56:45,069 He will not win the general election. 1144 00:56:45,070 --> 00:56:47,430 It's kind of a, you know, a bit of a kabuki, 1145 00:56:47,438 --> 00:56:51,524 Theatrical production each day, and so he's here facing, 1146 00:56:51,533 --> 00:56:53,893 I don't know how many reporters, 70... 1147 00:56:53,901 --> 00:56:55,273 70 reporters or so, 1148 00:56:55,277 --> 00:56:58,603 Who really want to drive him off message, 1149 00:56:58,604 --> 00:57:01,549 And so he has to come out and seem more or less 1150 00:57:01,550 --> 00:57:03,945 To be answering questions without saying anything 1151 00:57:03,947 --> 00:57:05,290 That's gonna make news. 1152 00:57:05,291 --> 00:57:08,456 What is the president hearing from us allies 1153 00:57:08,459 --> 00:57:11,729 And those who participate in us military operations 1154 00:57:11,730 --> 00:57:13,257 Alongside Americans? 1155 00:57:13,258 --> 00:57:15,847 I'm not gonna be able to share any secret details 1156 00:57:15,849 --> 00:57:17,959 Of conversations that the president has had 1157 00:57:17,961 --> 00:57:19,816 With other world leaders, 1158 00:57:19,817 --> 00:57:22,559 But there are global consequences for arguments 1159 00:57:22,568 --> 00:57:24,640 That are made by domestic politicians. 1160 00:57:24,647 --> 00:57:26,661 But I think, you know, 1161 00:57:26,663 --> 00:57:29,406 The white house should recognize that the media, 1162 00:57:29,415 --> 00:57:32,157 Which represents the public to some degree, you know, 1163 00:57:32,166 --> 00:57:33,892 Has the right to ask questions 1164 00:57:33,893 --> 00:57:35,811 And that sometimes they have to answer things 1165 00:57:35,813 --> 00:57:37,377 That aren't really, maybe, 1166 00:57:37,380 --> 00:57:40,037 What they most are interested in talking about that day. 1167 00:57:46,081 --> 00:57:47,270 Hello? 1168 00:57:48,672 --> 00:57:49,689 Oh, I wouldn't... I mean, 1169 00:57:49,696 --> 00:57:51,423 I thought we already went over this, 1170 00:57:51,424 --> 00:57:54,243 But you will not be identified as a source for anything. 1171 00:57:54,244 --> 00:57:58,686 Your name will not, you know, appear as, you know, 1172 00:57:58,687 --> 00:58:01,373 Being connected to these documents 1173 00:58:01,375 --> 00:58:05,054 And certainly no quotes from anything we talked about. 1174 00:58:05,054 --> 00:58:08,957 One of David corn's major scoops was the 47% video, 1175 00:58:08,958 --> 00:58:12,823 Where you had presidential candidate, mitt Romney, 1176 00:58:12,829 --> 00:58:15,323 Do a $50,000-a-plate dinner 1177 00:58:15,325 --> 00:58:19,449 Talking about how 47% of the us public were moochers. 1178 00:58:31,739 --> 00:58:34,555 When this comes out, thanks to David corn, 1179 00:58:34,556 --> 00:58:37,337 It changes the momentum of the 2012 race 1180 00:58:37,339 --> 00:58:39,036 Between Romney and Obama. 1181 00:58:50,168 --> 00:58:53,207 The president of the united states defeats mitt Romney 1182 00:58:53,208 --> 00:58:55,471 In this... at this time right now, 1183 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:56,880 We have made this projection. 1184 00:58:56,888 --> 00:58:59,511 So, the president wins this battle. 1185 00:59:04,439 --> 00:59:07,316 When the source with the 47% video 1186 00:59:07,319 --> 00:59:10,230 Is looking to bring that to the public, 1187 00:59:10,231 --> 00:59:13,779 He didn't take it to NBC news or CBS news. 1188 00:59:13,782 --> 00:59:16,055 He takes it to David corn in mother Jones 1189 00:59:16,056 --> 00:59:18,997 Because he'd seen the investigative work 1190 00:59:18,997 --> 00:59:22,479 In the previous months that corn had been doing on Romney. 1191 00:59:26,708 --> 00:59:29,298 Okay, here's the list of the folks 1192 00:59:29,300 --> 00:59:31,378 Who testified at the trial, 1193 00:59:31,379 --> 00:59:33,421 So they're the ones we need to find. 1194 00:59:33,426 --> 00:59:34,417 Will do. 1195 00:59:38,065 --> 00:59:39,724 There's new intelligence today 1196 00:59:39,729 --> 00:59:42,568 Indicating Saddam Hussein has stepped up his efforts 1197 00:59:42,576 --> 00:59:44,239 To obtain nuclear weapons. 1198 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,926 The latest information, us officials saying 1199 00:59:46,928 --> 00:59:48,846 That over the past 14 months, 1200 00:59:48,848 --> 00:59:53,005 They have seen Saddam Hussein trying to obtain weapons 1201 00:59:53,006 --> 00:59:56,296 To try and build an atomic bomb. 1202 00:59:56,301 --> 01:00:00,617 It was basically sort of a feedback loop. 1203 01:00:00,620 --> 01:00:02,595 The administration was out there 1204 01:00:02,603 --> 01:00:04,934 Starting to beat the drums for war in Iraq. 1205 01:00:04,938 --> 01:00:08,616 The new york times, anxious to be ahead of the pack, 1206 01:00:08,617 --> 01:00:11,235 And to get the real scoop 1207 01:00:11,241 --> 01:00:13,480 When they found people with... 1208 01:00:13,481 --> 01:00:16,099 Administration officials who were presenting evidence 1209 01:00:16,105 --> 01:00:17,927 That wasn't that strong, 1210 01:00:17,928 --> 01:00:19,875 But the new york times went with the story 1211 01:00:19,879 --> 01:00:22,085 And then dick Cheney cited that story to say, 1212 01:00:22,087 --> 01:00:23,494 "look, the new york times." 1213 01:00:23,495 --> 01:00:25,125 It was already coming out of the administration. 1214 01:00:25,126 --> 01:00:26,498 He now is trying, 1215 01:00:26,501 --> 01:00:28,573 Through his illicit procurement network, 1216 01:00:28,581 --> 01:00:32,067 To acquire the equipment he needs 1217 01:00:32,068 --> 01:00:34,849 To be able to enrich uranium to make the bombs. 1218 01:00:34,851 --> 01:00:36,318 Specifically aluminum tubes. 1219 01:00:36,322 --> 01:00:38,432 There's a story in the new york times this morning. 1220 01:00:39,233 --> 01:00:43,069 The lead up to the war in Iraq. 1221 01:00:43,074 --> 01:00:46,334 The particularly egregious case is the new york times, 1222 01:00:46,337 --> 01:00:49,376 There's no question about it, because it... 1223 01:00:49,377 --> 01:00:51,774 It ran stories 1224 01:00:51,776 --> 01:00:55,353 Contrary to the truth. 1225 01:00:55,359 --> 01:00:59,128 It ran stories that the sources 1226 01:00:59,135 --> 01:01:01,021 Had planted information 1227 01:01:01,022 --> 01:01:04,983 That should have been checked out and the sources were... 1228 01:01:04,989 --> 01:01:06,773 Were questionable to begin with 1229 01:01:06,780 --> 01:01:09,082 In terms of their own objectives, 1230 01:01:09,084 --> 01:01:11,539 So the times is a particular case 1231 01:01:11,548 --> 01:01:14,137 Of particularly great failing. 1232 01:01:14,139 --> 01:01:15,673 There's nothing like experiencing 1233 01:01:15,674 --> 01:01:17,688 The world's finest journalism 1234 01:01:17,690 --> 01:01:19,484 In its original form. 1235 01:01:20,856 --> 01:01:22,362 And I want to attribute the times, 1236 01:01:22,363 --> 01:01:24,212 I don't want to talk about, obviously, 1237 01:01:24,217 --> 01:01:26,068 Specific intelligence sources, 1238 01:01:26,072 --> 01:01:29,303 But it's now public, that in fact, 1239 01:01:29,304 --> 01:01:32,249 He has been seeking to acquire the kinds of tubes 1240 01:01:32,250 --> 01:01:34,549 That are necessary to build a centrifuge. 1241 01:01:36,022 --> 01:01:37,739 I remember, particularly, 1242 01:01:37,750 --> 01:01:40,656 Watching Cheney on meet the press. 1243 01:01:42,739 --> 01:01:45,165 And throwing out this stuff, 1244 01:01:45,171 --> 01:01:47,952 And saying to my wife, saying, 1245 01:01:47,954 --> 01:01:49,201 "this is bullshit. 1246 01:01:49,202 --> 01:01:50,928 There's something missing here." 1247 01:01:50,929 --> 01:01:54,122 There will always be some uncertainty 1248 01:01:54,128 --> 01:01:57,072 About how quickly he can acquire nuclear weapons, 1249 01:01:57,073 --> 01:02:00,303 But we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud. 1250 01:02:01,453 --> 01:02:02,930 Two days, I think it was, 1251 01:02:02,931 --> 01:02:05,927 Before the war was launched in March 2003. 1252 01:02:05,933 --> 01:02:08,556 The Washington post had a great story 1253 01:02:08,557 --> 01:02:10,063 And the headline was something like, 1254 01:02:10,064 --> 01:02:13,579 "much of the bush administration's case for war 1255 01:02:13,580 --> 01:02:17,291 Is inaccurate or wrong, experts say." 1256 01:02:17,292 --> 01:02:20,619 And it was on page a19, it was, you know, inside, 1257 01:02:20,620 --> 01:02:24,043 And the question that I've had since that point 1258 01:02:24,043 --> 01:02:26,949 Is under what definition of news 1259 01:02:26,955 --> 01:02:29,866 Is that not a front page story? 1260 01:02:29,867 --> 01:02:32,293 That experts say administration's case for war 1261 01:02:32,298 --> 01:02:33,672 Is wrong. 1262 01:02:52,072 --> 01:02:53,351 Two trumps. 1263 01:02:53,352 --> 01:02:54,886 - Yeah, two trumps. - And I added a line. 1264 01:02:58,437 --> 01:03:00,671 Yes, Lisa, this is the order, 1265 01:03:00,677 --> 01:03:02,528 And what's circled and not circled. 1266 01:03:02,533 --> 01:03:05,218 I think that on the Lloyd Blankfein one, 1267 01:03:05,220 --> 01:03:08,066 I would end on my tsunami analogy. 1268 01:03:08,067 --> 01:03:09,573 "And it's about to crash on their head." 1269 01:03:09,574 --> 01:03:10,655 On their heads, yes. 1270 01:03:10,659 --> 01:03:12,193 Okay. 1271 01:03:12,194 --> 01:03:13,957 I.F. Stone was onto something really smart 1272 01:03:13,958 --> 01:03:15,650 With the subscription business. 1273 01:03:15,651 --> 01:03:17,951 What a lot of people miss about that business model, 1274 01:03:17,953 --> 01:03:19,871 Which in general was a smart business model, 1275 01:03:19,873 --> 01:03:23,009 It puts your financial incentives in the right place. 1276 01:03:23,010 --> 01:03:26,106 If your financial incentives are to please advertisers, 1277 01:03:26,112 --> 01:03:28,279 You will please advertisers, right. 1278 01:03:28,287 --> 01:03:31,068 But in the long run, you want to incentivize yourself 1279 01:03:31,070 --> 01:03:33,084 To be aligned with your audience. 1280 01:03:33,086 --> 01:03:34,333 The way you're aligned with your audience 1281 01:03:34,334 --> 01:03:36,605 Is if your audience is paying you. 1282 01:03:36,605 --> 01:03:38,552 So, if you go in the wrong direction, 1283 01:03:38,557 --> 01:03:41,212 They punish you by saying, "I'm leaving" 1284 01:03:41,213 --> 01:03:43,676 And I'm not paying you the subscription anymore." 1285 01:03:43,676 --> 01:03:45,403 That was true of I.F. Stone with his newsletter, 1286 01:03:45,404 --> 01:03:46,871 It's true of our show 1287 01:03:46,875 --> 01:03:49,397 Because we have a subscription model on our website. 1288 01:03:55,385 --> 01:03:57,016 Now, you can't get carried away with it, 1289 01:03:57,017 --> 01:03:59,002 Because sometimes you have to act out of principle, 1290 01:03:59,003 --> 01:04:00,851 Even if it loses you subscribers. 1291 01:04:00,856 --> 01:04:03,194 For example, after president Obama was elected, 1292 01:04:03,195 --> 01:04:04,600 I began to criticize him 1293 01:04:04,601 --> 01:04:06,421 For some of the things that I realized, whoa, 1294 01:04:06,422 --> 01:04:07,793 Well, that's not a progressive position, 1295 01:04:07,797 --> 01:04:09,656 And that's not a progressive position. 1296 01:04:09,657 --> 01:04:11,696 And in the beginning we lost a lot of subscribers 1297 01:04:11,701 --> 01:04:13,590 'cause people said, "whoa, no, wait a minute now." 1298 01:04:13,591 --> 01:04:15,476 We worked hard to get president Obama elected. 1299 01:04:15,477 --> 01:04:17,451 "You seem like you're being disrespectful to him." 1300 01:04:17,459 --> 01:04:19,185 Well, there you got to stand on principle 1301 01:04:19,186 --> 01:04:21,679 And we survived that and then those guys came back, 1302 01:04:21,681 --> 01:04:24,300 And even more came back when they realized, 1303 01:04:24,305 --> 01:04:25,705 "oh damn, you were right." 1304 01:04:25,713 --> 01:04:28,720 Hillary Clinton is tired 1305 01:04:28,721 --> 01:04:31,435 Of the Bernie sanders camp's lies, she says. 1306 01:04:31,441 --> 01:04:33,004 In fact, here, let me show you. 1307 01:04:33,008 --> 01:04:34,158 This is when she had a run-in 1308 01:04:34,159 --> 01:04:35,568 With a Greenpeace activist. 1309 01:04:35,569 --> 01:04:37,389 Can we talk about climate change? 1310 01:04:49,900 --> 01:04:52,748 When people make these kinds of claims, 1311 01:04:52,749 --> 01:04:54,829 Which now I think have been debunked, 1312 01:04:54,830 --> 01:04:57,388 Actually the Washington post said three Pinocchios. 1313 01:04:57,389 --> 01:04:59,430 The new york times also analyzed it. 1314 01:04:59,435 --> 01:05:01,602 She says that, "oh no, it's debunked." 1315 01:05:01,610 --> 01:05:03,594 Okay, great, I'll go to the source itself 1316 01:05:03,595 --> 01:05:05,386 That quote, unquote, "debunked" the story. 1317 01:05:05,387 --> 01:05:06,373 Washington post. 1318 01:05:15,462 --> 01:05:19,231 So, that adds up to all the donations to Hillary Clinton, 1319 01:05:19,238 --> 01:05:20,935 Up to more than $4.5 million, 1320 01:05:20,936 --> 01:05:22,247 So they acknowledge it. 1321 01:05:22,248 --> 01:05:24,068 They acknowledge it, right there, right? 1322 01:05:24,069 --> 01:05:25,574 But it's still only two percent 1323 01:05:25,575 --> 01:05:27,520 Of the total contributions received by Clinton 1324 01:05:27,524 --> 01:05:29,251 And outside groups backing her. 1325 01:05:29,252 --> 01:05:31,707 Now, that's true, but think about that for a second. 1326 01:05:31,715 --> 01:05:33,862 Their excuse for her is, "yeah, I know", 1327 01:05:33,863 --> 01:05:36,256 She took four and a half million bucks from the oil guys, 1328 01:05:36,258 --> 01:05:39,297 But she's taking so much more from the others. 1329 01:05:39,298 --> 01:05:41,820 The bribes that the oil and gas companies gave her 1330 01:05:41,825 --> 01:05:44,155 "Are small compared to what the banks gave her." 1331 01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:45,471 See, not guilty. 1332 01:05:45,472 --> 01:05:47,994 Bernie sanders is a liar. 1333 01:05:47,999 --> 01:05:49,887 So, Elizabeth warren, that's an interview... 1334 01:05:49,888 --> 01:05:51,776 I don't think there is even video of that. 1335 01:05:51,777 --> 01:05:53,308 I think it's IB times. 1336 01:05:53,309 --> 01:05:57,529 But we do have the panel on morning Joe and on Hannity. 1337 01:05:57,533 --> 01:05:59,131 And also Geraldo? 1338 01:05:59,132 --> 01:06:02,048 After the meeting, we had a few videos that we're doing 1339 01:06:02,049 --> 01:06:06,101 And to just basically get a good round... round out the stories. 1340 01:06:06,107 --> 01:06:09,692 Three years later, some senator says, "I never said that." 1341 01:06:09,693 --> 01:06:11,637 Even if you can't find it somewhere online, 1342 01:06:11,642 --> 01:06:12,534 I still have it. 1343 01:06:12,538 --> 01:06:14,005 So, I don't get rid of anything. 1344 01:06:14,009 --> 01:06:15,801 So, we have tons and tons of things 1345 01:06:15,802 --> 01:06:18,714 That I just have saved of what everyone has said ever 1346 01:06:18,715 --> 01:06:19,700 That we've ever done. 1347 01:06:19,704 --> 01:06:21,075 There's a lot, yeah. 1348 01:06:21,079 --> 01:06:23,630 I don't envy the guy who has to cut it all. 1349 01:06:23,639 --> 01:06:25,710 I could toss you a couple raw videos. 1350 01:06:25,718 --> 01:06:26,965 You can cut those down. 1351 01:06:26,966 --> 01:06:28,662 Yeah, by me, you mean Arthur, right? 1352 01:06:28,663 --> 01:06:29,841 Good luck with that. 1353 01:06:29,845 --> 01:06:31,859 - Okay, thank you. - All right, man. 1354 01:06:31,861 --> 01:06:35,313 I'm amused at people who claim that the governments don't lie. 1355 01:06:35,316 --> 01:06:37,942 Really, do you know human beings that never lie? 1356 01:06:37,943 --> 01:06:40,558 Let alone human beings who need to cover their ass 1357 01:06:40,564 --> 01:06:41,877 And protect their job? 1358 01:06:41,878 --> 01:06:45,079 Let alone people who need to do all that in public? 1359 01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,243 Of course, they lie! 1360 01:06:47,250 --> 01:06:48,679 Of course they do. 1361 01:06:48,690 --> 01:06:51,183 When is the last time you heard CNN say 1362 01:06:51,185 --> 01:06:53,007 The pentagon is lying? 1363 01:06:53,008 --> 01:06:56,298 Isn't it amazing that in these decades of CNN's existence, 1364 01:06:56,304 --> 01:06:57,733 They have never uttered that sentence. 1365 01:06:57,743 --> 01:07:00,966 So the pentagon has never lied, according to CNN. 1366 01:07:06,189 --> 01:07:08,875 Congressman, but overall, I'm a deficit hawk too. 1367 01:07:08,877 --> 01:07:10,536 I don't want out of control spending, 1368 01:07:10,541 --> 01:07:12,171 So then I assume as a deficit hawk, 1369 01:07:12,172 --> 01:07:14,119 You also want to cut defense spending 1370 01:07:14,124 --> 01:07:17,193 And you want to raise taxes on the rich, right? 1371 01:07:17,195 --> 01:07:19,564 Well, I think the first purpose of this government 1372 01:07:19,565 --> 01:07:20,772 Is to defend the nation, 1373 01:07:20,778 --> 01:07:22,275 And if we cut defense to the extent 1374 01:07:22,282 --> 01:07:23,721 That we're no longer safe, 1375 01:07:23,722 --> 01:07:25,513 Let me suggest to you, there's nothing that would have 1376 01:07:25,514 --> 01:07:26,952 A more negative impact on our economy. 1377 01:07:26,953 --> 01:07:28,554 Nineteen percent of the deficit 1378 01:07:28,555 --> 01:07:31,015 Is defense spending, 1379 01:07:31,016 --> 01:07:32,579 And we've spent more on defense 1380 01:07:32,583 --> 01:07:35,269 Than the entire rest of the world combined, 1381 01:07:35,270 --> 01:07:38,176 But you still think we cannot cut a nickel from there. 1382 01:07:38,182 --> 01:07:41,765 We need every nuke, every sub, every aircraft carrier, 1383 01:07:41,766 --> 01:07:44,068 Otherwise we're not gonna be able to out-nuke Iran, 1384 01:07:44,070 --> 01:07:45,508 Is that the logic? 1385 01:07:45,509 --> 01:07:47,427 When Cenk was first working at MSNBC, 1386 01:07:47,429 --> 01:07:48,999 I just assumed he was on cloud nine, 1387 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,614 Because he wanted it so bad and then there was this one week 1388 01:07:51,620 --> 01:07:54,401 Where they flew me into new york 1389 01:07:54,403 --> 01:07:57,376 And I helped them produce the television show. 1390 01:07:57,379 --> 01:07:59,652 Right then and there, I knew it wasn't right for us, 1391 01:07:59,653 --> 01:08:00,994 But I didn't say anything. 1392 01:08:00,995 --> 01:08:02,654 I just kinda like, sat back and waited to see 1393 01:08:02,659 --> 01:08:05,699 If Cenk was gonna do what I thought he was gonna do. 1394 01:08:05,700 --> 01:08:08,516 Phil griffin, who's the head of MSNBC, pulls me into his office. 1395 01:08:08,517 --> 01:08:09,760 He sits me down and he says, 1396 01:08:09,761 --> 01:08:12,639 "Cenk, I was just in Washington, 1397 01:08:12,641 --> 01:08:14,722 And they're not happy with your tone." 1398 01:08:14,723 --> 01:08:18,239 And I sat back in my seat, like, "oh my god, it's happening." 1399 01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:19,679 Right, this is like a movie! 1400 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,406 They're... they're giving me this speech. 1401 01:08:21,407 --> 01:08:24,638 You know, some people told me that you were dumb. 1402 01:08:24,639 --> 01:08:26,174 I think you're smart. 1403 01:08:26,174 --> 01:08:28,093 In fact, I think you're smart enough to understand 1404 01:08:28,094 --> 01:08:29,917 A situation when it's explained to you. 1405 01:08:29,918 --> 01:08:32,948 And he said, "look, I want to be clear with you about this", 1406 01:08:32,957 --> 01:08:34,395 So just cool it. 1407 01:08:34,396 --> 01:08:35,643 "Bring it down a little bit." 1408 01:08:35,644 --> 01:08:37,274 Now, if I felt that you had 1409 01:08:37,275 --> 01:08:38,589 The welfare of the state at heart, 1410 01:08:38,590 --> 01:08:42,289 Like I have, I'd say you were a man to watch. 1411 01:08:42,298 --> 01:08:44,120 So, they would say things like, 1412 01:08:44,121 --> 01:08:46,423 "we need you to act like a senator." 1413 01:08:46,425 --> 01:08:47,671 And I thought, "why?" 1414 01:08:47,672 --> 01:08:48,919 Why on good god's green earth 1415 01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:50,138 "Would you want to act like a senator?" 1416 01:08:50,139 --> 01:08:51,670 Does that mean I should lie more? 1417 01:08:51,671 --> 01:08:53,397 I should be more fake? 1418 01:08:53,398 --> 01:08:54,932 People don't like senators. 1419 01:08:54,933 --> 01:08:57,264 Congress, at that point, is at an approval rating 1420 01:08:57,268 --> 01:08:59,887 Floating between 7 and 11 percent. 1421 01:08:59,892 --> 01:09:01,491 They hate senators! 1422 01:09:08,244 --> 01:09:09,874 They don't have to tell an anchor 1423 01:09:09,875 --> 01:09:11,763 Coming into the mainstream media, 1424 01:09:11,764 --> 01:09:13,265 "hey, be pro-government." 1425 01:09:13,266 --> 01:09:15,213 Although with me, I was so thick-headed they had to. 1426 01:09:15,218 --> 01:09:16,369 Right. 1427 01:09:16,370 --> 01:09:17,777 They just don't hire that guy, 1428 01:09:17,778 --> 01:09:19,408 And if they make the mistake of hiring him, 1429 01:09:19,409 --> 01:09:21,039 They demote him or they fire him, 1430 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,862 And then the message is clear in the building. 1431 01:09:22,863 --> 01:09:26,382 "Shh, we don't criticize the powers that be." 1432 01:09:26,383 --> 01:09:28,301 We don't criticize corporations. 1433 01:09:28,303 --> 01:09:30,125 We are a giant corporation. 1434 01:09:30,126 --> 01:09:32,390 We don't take on the establishment, 1435 01:09:32,398 --> 01:09:33,865 "We are the establishment." 1436 01:09:33,869 --> 01:09:35,979 And the guys who play ball get promotions 1437 01:09:35,981 --> 01:09:39,308 And everyone in the building sees them getting promotions. 1438 01:09:39,309 --> 01:09:41,739 So, it is an evolutionary process 1439 01:09:41,740 --> 01:09:44,809 By which the mainstream media gets the product that it wants. 1440 01:09:45,994 --> 01:09:49,158 I think what happened to Cenk Uygur at MSNBC 1441 01:09:49,162 --> 01:09:50,601 Illuminates the process 1442 01:09:50,602 --> 01:09:54,025 Leading to what Noam Chomsky calls, 1443 01:09:54,025 --> 01:09:56,289 "manufacturing consent." 1444 01:09:56,297 --> 01:09:58,340 Corporate news outlets often end up 1445 01:09:58,345 --> 01:10:01,448 Being more propagandistic than journalistic. 1446 01:10:01,448 --> 01:10:04,901 Manufactured consent makes sure that the ignorant 1447 01:10:04,904 --> 01:10:08,385 And meddlesome majority keeps out of things. 1448 01:10:08,391 --> 01:10:10,721 So, if they want... 1449 01:10:10,726 --> 01:10:13,575 For decades they've wanted national healthcare, 1450 01:10:13,576 --> 01:10:16,230 But they don't understand, so keep them out of it. 1451 01:10:16,231 --> 01:10:18,147 They want higher taxes on the rich, 1452 01:10:18,149 --> 01:10:19,396 Then you know, put them to the side. 1453 01:10:19,397 --> 01:10:20,768 They don't understand things. 1454 01:10:20,772 --> 01:10:22,498 They're opposed to wars, 1455 01:10:22,499 --> 01:10:24,609 It's 'cause they don't understand how important it is 1456 01:10:24,611 --> 01:10:27,488 For us to bomb Libya and whatever it may be. 1457 01:10:27,491 --> 01:10:29,446 It used to be in earlier times 1458 01:10:29,447 --> 01:10:31,649 That you could use force to do this, 1459 01:10:31,651 --> 01:10:35,132 But by the early 20th century, 1460 01:10:35,138 --> 01:10:37,056 Countries like England and the United States, 1461 01:10:37,058 --> 01:10:38,880 The more free societies, 1462 01:10:38,881 --> 01:10:42,333 It was recognized that force was no longer sufficient, 1463 01:10:42,336 --> 01:10:45,280 So you had to turn the control of attitudes and opinions. 1464 01:10:45,281 --> 01:10:47,006 It's quite conscious incidentally. 1465 01:10:47,007 --> 01:10:48,733 I think manufacturing consent 1466 01:10:48,734 --> 01:10:50,268 Is essentially the Rosetta stone 1467 01:10:50,269 --> 01:10:52,830 For understanding the hieroglyphics of the us media. 1468 01:10:54,716 --> 01:10:56,921 It is the case that if you go 1469 01:10:56,924 --> 01:11:00,155 To most media figures 1470 01:11:00,156 --> 01:11:03,225 And/or to media corporations and tell them that they're really... 1471 01:11:03,228 --> 01:11:05,204 Constrain them of things they can and can't say, 1472 01:11:05,211 --> 01:11:06,746 And not only will they deny it, 1473 01:11:06,747 --> 01:11:09,913 But they'll essentially be truthful in their denial, 1474 01:11:09,914 --> 01:11:11,449 In the sense that they believe that denial, 1475 01:11:11,450 --> 01:11:13,943 Because they don't have someone standing over their shoulder 1476 01:11:13,945 --> 01:11:15,928 Deleting words that they write 1477 01:11:15,929 --> 01:11:18,067 Or compelling them to say things they don't want to say, 1478 01:11:18,072 --> 01:11:20,824 But the entire system breeds a certain orthodox. 1479 01:11:20,825 --> 01:11:23,797 It breeds a certain kind of range of pie-ties 1480 01:11:23,799 --> 01:11:27,214 And if you deviate too far from them, it will reject you. 1481 01:11:28,245 --> 01:11:30,450 So, yes, you're perfectly free 1482 01:11:30,453 --> 01:11:31,796 Once you accept the... 1483 01:11:31,797 --> 01:11:34,164 You internally accept the principles 1484 01:11:34,165 --> 01:11:37,042 And you feel under no pressure in censorship. 1485 01:11:37,045 --> 01:11:38,704 You can say anything you want 1486 01:11:38,709 --> 01:11:41,490 As long as you accept the concept of objectivity. 1487 01:11:42,995 --> 01:11:45,104 Ninety-nine percent of the people who work in the business 1488 01:11:45,107 --> 01:11:48,502 Just think they're doing their jobs and they don't realize 1489 01:11:48,503 --> 01:11:52,814 That they're creating this kinda endless, 1490 01:11:52,817 --> 01:11:54,580 You know, minefield of stupidity 1491 01:11:54,581 --> 01:11:57,070 That it's gonna be impossible for us to all breach 1492 01:11:57,072 --> 01:11:58,962 When the time comes, you know. 1493 01:11:58,963 --> 01:12:03,592 Those reporters who care more about truth 1494 01:12:03,599 --> 01:12:06,701 Will eventually become management problems, 1495 01:12:06,702 --> 01:12:09,128 And the ones who can read power, 1496 01:12:09,133 --> 01:12:11,272 In essence, function as courtiers, 1497 01:12:11,277 --> 01:12:14,566 Know how to play the game. 1498 01:12:14,572 --> 01:12:17,986 The veneer of objectivity, neutrality, 1499 01:12:17,996 --> 01:12:21,410 Impartiality, truth, and yet, 1500 01:12:21,419 --> 01:12:24,104 Assiduously serve, 1501 01:12:24,106 --> 01:12:26,945 In essence, power, 1502 01:12:26,953 --> 01:12:30,051 Are the ones who rise within the institution, 1503 01:12:30,057 --> 01:12:34,791 And that's why if you look at the top management 1504 01:12:34,792 --> 01:12:37,478 Of even institutions like the new york times, 1505 01:12:37,480 --> 01:12:40,357 They're filled with such incredible mediocrities. 1506 01:12:41,381 --> 01:12:43,462 They can do exactly what they want, 1507 01:12:43,463 --> 01:12:45,983 But they wouldn't be in that position 1508 01:12:45,988 --> 01:12:48,865 Unless they already accepted the framework. 1509 01:12:49,826 --> 01:12:51,744 I.F. Stone is a perfect example. 1510 01:12:51,747 --> 01:12:54,596 He's a terrific reporter, maybe one of the best, 1511 01:12:54,597 --> 01:12:57,568 But he didn't accept the rules, so he was out of the system. 1512 01:12:57,571 --> 01:12:59,776 Same with innumerable others. 1513 01:12:59,778 --> 01:13:04,480 Jeremy Scahill, Glenn Greenwald, Amy Goodman, even Matt Taibbi. 1514 01:13:21,055 --> 01:13:24,574 From my reporting, these are all 1515 01:13:24,576 --> 01:13:26,466 The autopsies that were ordered. 1516 01:13:26,466 --> 01:13:29,437 Is this a scientific autopsy report from... 1517 01:13:29,440 --> 01:13:31,099 You're laughing. 1518 01:13:31,103 --> 01:13:35,640 This doesn't look like a report that my students would do. 1519 01:13:35,646 --> 01:13:37,821 The report doesn't look like a... 1520 01:13:37,822 --> 01:13:39,708 That even your students would do, okay. 1521 01:13:39,709 --> 01:13:40,917 You know, I'm sort of getting at, 1522 01:13:40,924 --> 01:13:42,324 Whether or not there was some sort of a scam 1523 01:13:42,332 --> 01:13:43,453 With the autopsies. 1524 01:13:43,454 --> 01:13:45,177 All these reports are missing. 1525 01:13:45,178 --> 01:13:47,354 Oh, those are the missing ones, oh, okay. 1526 01:13:47,355 --> 01:13:49,463 So, over 30% of the autopsies ordered. 1527 01:13:49,465 --> 01:13:50,970 You don't even have a lab report for. 1528 01:13:50,971 --> 01:13:53,491 We don't even know if they were ever performed. 1529 01:13:53,496 --> 01:13:54,292 They were billed. 1530 01:13:54,296 --> 01:13:55,610 I have the canceled checks. 1531 01:13:55,611 --> 01:13:57,104 Oh. 1532 01:13:57,112 --> 01:13:58,867 I just don't have if the autopsy was performed, 1533 01:13:58,872 --> 01:14:00,051 What they found. 1534 01:14:11,957 --> 01:14:14,996 You get appointed to the board of one of these commissions, 1535 01:14:14,997 --> 01:14:17,682 Essentially in Texas, by being a large campaign contributor. 1536 01:14:17,684 --> 01:14:21,098 This is all an expose of this mass grave. 1537 01:14:22,066 --> 01:14:25,384 Make these people own this shit. 1538 01:14:25,394 --> 01:14:26,794 Make 'em own it, 1539 01:14:26,802 --> 01:14:29,199 Because this is what is existing in this state 1540 01:14:29,201 --> 01:14:31,695 And it's those people over at the capital, 1541 01:14:31,697 --> 01:14:34,027 But it's also people who just go about their daily lives 1542 01:14:34,032 --> 01:14:35,087 And let it happen. 1543 01:14:47,215 --> 01:14:49,708 He had to answer questions for weeks about this. 1544 01:14:49,710 --> 01:14:52,137 He also was pulled in by some high ranking 1545 01:14:52,141 --> 01:14:55,460 Local officials in the state and asked very similar questions, 1546 01:14:55,469 --> 01:14:56,802 So he's had time to prep. 1547 01:14:56,813 --> 01:14:59,690 Basically, what happened is nueces county 1548 01:14:59,693 --> 01:15:02,570 Was providing autopsy services for brooks county, 1549 01:15:02,573 --> 01:15:06,409 And they were overwhelmed with nueces county alone. 1550 01:15:06,413 --> 01:15:08,197 Course I wasn't around when all of this was being done, 1551 01:15:08,204 --> 01:15:10,794 You know, we kind of picked up after the fact, you know. 1552 01:15:10,796 --> 01:15:12,675 Some of them were done 1553 01:15:12,683 --> 01:15:14,697 During the time of your tenure here too. 1554 01:15:14,699 --> 01:15:16,454 Some of them were after 2007. 1555 01:15:16,459 --> 01:15:17,418 Oh, yeah, yeah. 1556 01:15:17,419 --> 01:15:18,790 So, I'm just wondering 1557 01:15:18,794 --> 01:15:20,482 Is that the mortuary who's dumping bodies? 1558 01:15:20,490 --> 01:15:21,832 Actually, well, we had... 1559 01:15:21,833 --> 01:15:23,550 In other words, who monitors the mortuary? 1560 01:15:23,561 --> 01:15:25,344 They're an independent contractor, 1561 01:15:25,352 --> 01:15:26,503 So in other words, 1562 01:15:26,504 --> 01:15:28,738 You contract somebody to do it, 1563 01:15:28,743 --> 01:15:31,112 You pay 'em 750 bucks and they go do the job. 1564 01:15:31,113 --> 01:15:32,578 All we know is we're gonna pay 1565 01:15:32,582 --> 01:15:35,301 For four... $500, $500, $500... 1566 01:15:35,302 --> 01:15:36,290 And it's gonna say, 1567 01:15:36,294 --> 01:15:37,828 "one was Eddie Canalis, he was identified." 1568 01:15:37,829 --> 01:15:39,460 This gentlemen was john doe. 1569 01:15:39,461 --> 01:15:41,120 "The other one was another john doe." 1570 01:15:41,124 --> 01:15:43,330 In a case where I was not comfortable 1571 01:15:43,332 --> 01:15:45,699 With cause of death, DNA and... 1572 01:15:45,700 --> 01:15:48,355 That's the criteria where you saw something suspicious. 1573 01:15:48,356 --> 01:15:49,957 What if you found just bones or a skull or something? 1574 01:15:49,958 --> 01:15:51,739 It's... it's difficult. You can't do that. 1575 01:15:51,747 --> 01:15:53,051 It would be a waste of time. 1576 01:15:53,059 --> 01:15:54,401 You would not order an autopsy 1577 01:15:54,402 --> 01:15:55,994 If it was just a skull or bones. 1578 01:15:56,002 --> 01:15:57,986 Once the sun, 108, 107 degrees... 1579 01:15:57,987 --> 01:16:00,258 So, a sun bleached skull or something, no? 1580 01:16:00,259 --> 01:16:01,629 No, no, they wouldn't. 1581 01:16:03,103 --> 01:16:04,215 You don't have a problem 1582 01:16:04,223 --> 01:16:06,036 Until somebody makes a problem out of it. 1583 01:16:07,454 --> 01:16:09,660 The documents I have and the evidence I have, 1584 01:16:09,662 --> 01:16:11,446 I asked him directly about those things 1585 01:16:11,453 --> 01:16:12,735 And he lied through his teeth 1586 01:16:12,736 --> 01:16:14,612 Through every single one of them. 1587 01:16:14,620 --> 01:16:17,018 So, the way the bodies were buried, the mortuaries, 1588 01:16:17,019 --> 01:16:19,829 The contracts, everything, he's just... 1589 01:16:19,835 --> 01:16:21,370 Just bullshitting me the whole way. 1590 01:16:22,874 --> 01:16:24,601 In my investigation prior to speaking to him, 1591 01:16:24,602 --> 01:16:26,875 I have found nothing but discrepancies in the paperwork 1592 01:16:26,876 --> 01:16:29,722 And the documents in the way that records were kept, 1593 01:16:29,723 --> 01:16:32,023 And he basically, without knowing he did, 1594 01:16:32,025 --> 01:16:33,751 Admitted it all to me, 1595 01:16:33,752 --> 01:16:36,821 And I'm actually just shaking a little bit from it. 1596 01:16:50,071 --> 01:16:52,536 The only way I'm able to do the investigative work 1597 01:16:52,537 --> 01:16:54,711 Before we even bring it to a broadcast outlet, 1598 01:16:54,712 --> 01:16:56,436 Before we bring it to the mainstream media, 1599 01:16:56,437 --> 01:16:58,288 Is because I actually get paid every month 1600 01:16:58,293 --> 01:16:59,415 By the nation institute. 1601 01:16:59,416 --> 01:17:01,138 I have a monthly stipend, 1602 01:17:01,139 --> 01:17:02,902 An investigative stipend that allows me 1603 01:17:02,903 --> 01:17:04,395 To put all these pieces together 1604 01:17:04,403 --> 01:17:06,187 And I can spend months on a story. 1605 01:17:06,194 --> 01:17:07,891 I can spend a year on a story 1606 01:17:07,892 --> 01:17:10,067 Before I even bring it to a broadcast outlet. 1607 01:17:11,247 --> 01:17:12,815 If the medical examiner 1608 01:17:12,816 --> 01:17:16,556 Or the forensic person in brooks county examined bones, 1609 01:17:16,559 --> 01:17:19,752 He charged one flat fee, $1500, 1610 01:17:19,758 --> 01:17:21,513 And there were many bones examined. 1611 01:17:21,518 --> 01:17:24,174 They might as well have been an eight-year-old who wrote them. 1612 01:17:24,175 --> 01:17:25,708 "I saw a man lying on the ground," 1613 01:17:25,709 --> 01:17:26,984 His bones were scattered. 1614 01:17:26,988 --> 01:17:29,443 They looked okay to me," is basically a report. 1615 01:17:29,452 --> 01:17:31,147 Fifteen hundred bucks. 1616 01:17:31,148 --> 01:17:35,626 He was judge for eight years from 2007 to 2014. 1617 01:17:37,129 --> 01:17:38,855 That's when all the bodies were buried. 1618 01:17:38,857 --> 01:17:41,706 We... we know that brooks county is under-resourced 1619 01:17:41,707 --> 01:17:44,611 And their record keeping isn't great, 1620 01:17:44,616 --> 01:17:47,493 And so let's just take that at face value for now. 1621 01:17:47,496 --> 01:17:49,031 I don't think it's so much that. 1622 01:17:49,032 --> 01:17:50,442 I think there's something going on here. 1623 01:17:50,443 --> 01:17:51,495 Obviously. 1624 01:17:53,319 --> 01:17:57,001 I think about I.F. Stone a lot and I think about his phrase, 1625 01:17:57,002 --> 01:17:58,562 "all governments lie." 1626 01:17:58,566 --> 01:18:00,225 And I also think about the fact 1627 01:18:00,230 --> 01:18:02,244 That most of his reporting was done 1628 01:18:02,245 --> 01:18:04,614 Putting his face in a stack of documents. 1629 01:18:05,475 --> 01:18:06,847 It wasn't flashy. 1630 01:18:06,852 --> 01:18:10,242 He found the fact that governments lie 1631 01:18:10,243 --> 01:18:13,273 Basically by what governments do. 1632 01:18:13,282 --> 01:18:15,133 They're bad at covering up their lies. 1633 01:18:15,138 --> 01:18:16,451 I can take you to where I work 1634 01:18:16,452 --> 01:18:18,080 And I can show you stack after stack 1635 01:18:18,081 --> 01:18:19,424 After stack of documents 1636 01:18:19,425 --> 01:18:21,889 And I find, in our own government documents, 1637 01:18:21,890 --> 01:18:23,519 Nothing but lies. 1638 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,791 Nothing but misrepresentation. 1639 01:18:25,792 --> 01:18:28,351 Nothing but covering up the truth. 1640 01:18:28,351 --> 01:18:30,107 And governments do lie frequently, 1641 01:18:30,111 --> 01:18:32,835 And it's my job to find out when they lie. 1642 01:18:55,006 --> 01:18:57,250 If you don't step back and look at the bigger picture, 1643 01:18:57,251 --> 01:19:00,947 Fundamentally, the empire is not afraid of anyone really 1644 01:19:00,956 --> 01:19:02,519 That's running for office. 1645 01:19:02,523 --> 01:19:05,333 Whether it's the democrat or the republican that wins, 1646 01:19:05,339 --> 01:19:08,216 The core institutions of that necessitate 1647 01:19:08,219 --> 01:19:12,084 A brutal military force that backs up the sort of, you know, 1648 01:19:12,090 --> 01:19:14,257 Velvet-gloved hand of the free market 1649 01:19:14,265 --> 01:19:18,518 Is a given with every single person that runs for office 1650 01:19:18,519 --> 01:19:20,629 Or can get the nomination of those parties. 1651 01:19:20,631 --> 01:19:22,423 So, you know, even if you have someone that, 1652 01:19:22,424 --> 01:19:24,887 In the general election, is perceived to be, 1653 01:19:24,888 --> 01:19:26,574 You know, crazy. 1654 01:19:26,582 --> 01:19:29,104 Once they sort of start getting those briefings 1655 01:19:29,109 --> 01:19:30,643 From the permanent power structure, 1656 01:19:30,644 --> 01:19:31,765 The intelligence community, 1657 01:19:31,766 --> 01:19:33,202 They all step into line. 1658 01:19:52,337 --> 01:19:53,745 Well, in journalism school, 1659 01:19:53,746 --> 01:19:55,538 You're taught to be objective, 1660 01:19:55,539 --> 01:19:57,128 And objective means 1661 01:19:57,136 --> 01:20:01,893 Report accurately what's going on within the beltway. 1662 01:20:01,903 --> 01:20:04,780 So, inside the system of power. 1663 01:20:04,783 --> 01:20:08,332 If you report that accurately, you're objective. 1664 01:20:08,334 --> 01:20:11,469 If you go outside that, you're biased. 1665 01:20:11,469 --> 01:20:13,548 Well, plenty of things outside 1666 01:20:13,549 --> 01:20:16,742 That this is a narrow concentrated power system. 1667 01:20:16,748 --> 01:20:19,299 One of my favorite lines from any film 1668 01:20:19,308 --> 01:20:23,083 Is from the film "the usual suspects." 1669 01:20:23,083 --> 01:20:25,769 You know, Kevin spacey, amazing as Kaiser Soze, 1670 01:20:25,771 --> 01:20:27,913 But at the end of the film, he says, 1671 01:20:27,914 --> 01:20:29,573 "the greatest trick the devil ever pulled..." 1672 01:20:29,578 --> 01:20:33,193 The greatest trick the devil ever pulled 1673 01:20:33,194 --> 01:20:35,370 Was convincing the world he didn't exist. 1674 01:20:35,371 --> 01:20:37,603 "Was convincing the world he didn't exist." 1675 01:20:37,608 --> 01:20:39,526 You know, you've got crazy people thinking 1676 01:20:39,528 --> 01:20:41,063 That the department of homeland security's 1677 01:20:41,064 --> 01:20:42,886 Gonna put them in a fema camp somewhere. 1678 01:20:42,887 --> 01:20:44,162 You have other people thinking 1679 01:20:44,166 --> 01:20:45,643 That Obama's gonna come and take their guns. 1680 01:20:45,644 --> 01:20:46,942 That's all a sideshow. 1681 01:20:46,949 --> 01:20:48,580 That's all a total sideshow. 1682 01:20:48,581 --> 01:20:49,923 The coup already happened 1683 01:20:49,924 --> 01:20:51,842 And the most brilliant part about it is 1684 01:20:51,844 --> 01:20:53,829 None of these people seem to realize it. 1685 01:21:07,299 --> 01:21:10,464 I can draw a line from I.F. Stone 1686 01:21:10,467 --> 01:21:12,030 Directly to what I'm doing now. 1687 01:21:12,034 --> 01:21:13,952 It makes me sad to think that actually, 1688 01:21:13,954 --> 01:21:17,951 He isn't with us and it makes me really hope that... 1689 01:21:17,952 --> 01:21:20,446 That the next I.F. Stone or two or three or four 1690 01:21:20,448 --> 01:21:22,615 Or 400 are out there now, 1691 01:21:22,624 --> 01:21:24,319 Who might be watching this right now, and thinking, 1692 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:25,307 "you know, I can do this." 1693 01:21:25,311 --> 01:21:26,615 Because you can do it. 1694 01:21:26,623 --> 01:21:27,713 You know, you can do it. 1695 01:21:27,714 --> 01:21:29,657 Especially if you... again, do the work. 1696 01:21:29,662 --> 01:21:33,690 Do the hard work, but realize that sometimes the best stuff 1697 01:21:33,693 --> 01:21:35,036 Is right there in front of your nose, 1698 01:21:35,036 --> 01:21:36,724 And you don't even know it. 1699 01:21:51,035 --> 01:21:53,625 I've actually written a book you might like better. 1700 01:21:54,872 --> 01:21:57,011 It's nice to meet you. 1701 01:21:57,017 --> 01:21:59,731 Funding is the key to great investigative reporting. 1702 01:21:59,737 --> 01:22:01,751 That doesn't really have a time frame. 1703 01:22:01,752 --> 01:22:04,375 It may take you months to get a document 1704 01:22:04,376 --> 01:22:06,899 That may take you in many different directions and so, 1705 01:22:06,903 --> 01:22:10,605 For me, time is... is equal to the amount of funding, 1706 01:22:10,615 --> 01:22:12,178 And funding is equal to the amount of time 1707 01:22:12,182 --> 01:22:13,649 That I can spend on something. 1708 01:22:13,653 --> 01:22:15,284 I'm working on a project right now 1709 01:22:15,285 --> 01:22:16,568 That I've been working on for the past year 1710 01:22:16,569 --> 01:22:18,002 And I probably will take another year 1711 01:22:18,003 --> 01:22:19,279 Before it's actually broadcast. 1712 01:22:19,283 --> 01:22:21,968 If I were working for corporate media, 1713 01:22:21,970 --> 01:22:23,246 This story would never air. 1714 01:22:23,249 --> 01:22:25,167 It just... I'd never have that luxury 1715 01:22:25,169 --> 01:22:27,567 Of being able to develop a story for that length of time. 1716 01:22:27,569 --> 01:22:30,034 As independent journalists, I was wondering, 1717 01:22:30,035 --> 01:22:32,910 What do you guys think the implications are 1718 01:22:32,913 --> 01:22:35,051 Of our news media being reduced 1719 01:22:35,056 --> 01:22:37,454 To 140-character sound bites? 1720 01:22:37,456 --> 01:22:41,292 Twitter can play an incredible role if used properly 1721 01:22:41,295 --> 01:22:44,968 By journalists in debunking myths 1722 01:22:44,974 --> 01:22:46,188 Or misinformation. 1723 01:22:46,189 --> 01:22:47,877 The flip side is also true, 1724 01:22:47,884 --> 01:22:49,735 Which is that it can spread misinformation 1725 01:22:49,740 --> 01:22:52,011 Very, very quickly. 1726 01:22:52,012 --> 01:22:54,860 I... I think that the future is taking so much 1727 01:22:54,861 --> 01:22:57,286 Of what's amazing about the creativity 1728 01:22:57,291 --> 01:22:58,921 And innovation of young people 1729 01:22:58,922 --> 01:23:01,895 Who are dipping their toes into the water of journalism 1730 01:23:01,898 --> 01:23:04,842 And the ideas that they have, and the lack of cynicism, 1731 01:23:04,843 --> 01:23:09,512 And we try to meld that with old school muckraking techniques 1732 01:23:09,513 --> 01:23:11,172 And slow cooked journalism. 1733 01:23:11,177 --> 01:23:14,791 Whoever figures out how to really web those two things 1734 01:23:14,792 --> 01:23:17,765 Is gonna create something very special in the media landscape. 1735 01:23:17,768 --> 01:23:20,357 Almost my entire life as a journalist 1736 01:23:20,359 --> 01:23:23,141 Has been spent in poverty media. 1737 01:23:23,142 --> 01:23:25,127 You know, media outlets that have no money, 1738 01:23:25,128 --> 01:23:26,564 And we are professional beggars, 1739 01:23:26,565 --> 01:23:29,126 And begging can sometimes come in the form 1740 01:23:29,127 --> 01:23:33,374 Of asking for funds from... from a foundation 1741 01:23:33,380 --> 01:23:36,545 Or it can come in the form of writing a letter 1742 01:23:36,548 --> 01:23:37,948 To your family and friends, saying, 1743 01:23:37,956 --> 01:23:40,190 "I really want to go to Iraq to be a reporter. 1744 01:23:40,195 --> 01:23:41,854 Can you kick in 25 or 50 bucks?" 1745 01:23:41,859 --> 01:23:43,259 And that's actually how I financed 1746 01:23:43,267 --> 01:23:44,837 The first time I ever went to Iraq, 1747 01:23:44,838 --> 01:23:47,001 Was begging my extended family to pitch in 1748 01:23:47,009 --> 01:23:48,956 At $25 and $50. 1749 01:23:48,961 --> 01:23:50,272 He's come a long way 1750 01:23:50,273 --> 01:23:52,929 Since he was pretty much the original volunteer 1751 01:23:52,930 --> 01:23:53,983 At democracy now! 1752 01:23:53,984 --> 01:23:55,298 Jeremy Scahill. 1753 01:23:59,038 --> 01:24:02,107 The fact that I... I now have received this designation 1754 01:24:02,111 --> 01:24:03,677 Is a tremendous honor, 1755 01:24:03,678 --> 01:24:07,197 And I want to pledge to use this opportunity 1756 01:24:07,198 --> 01:24:11,388 To educate a new generation of young journalists 1757 01:24:11,389 --> 01:24:14,812 About the incredibly important work of I.F. Stone 1758 01:24:14,813 --> 01:24:17,431 And the legacy that he has left all of us 1759 01:24:17,437 --> 01:24:20,314 And the challenge that he has left us all 1760 01:24:20,317 --> 01:24:24,469 In a very dark time to simply be journalists. 1761 01:24:24,476 --> 01:24:26,970 This isn't a career, this isn't a profession. 1762 01:24:26,971 --> 01:24:28,784 Journalism is a way of life. 1763 01:24:30,586 --> 01:24:33,367 My hope is that we somehow miraculously produce 1764 01:24:33,369 --> 01:24:36,755 A generation of young I.F. Stones. 1765 01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,196 We need to stop keeping up with the Kardashians 1766 01:24:39,197 --> 01:24:42,548 And start going back and catching up on I.F. Stone. 1767 01:24:42,551 --> 01:24:44,181 Thank you very much. 1768 01:24:45,974 --> 01:24:49,780 I think he's really an inspiration in the role 1769 01:24:49,781 --> 01:24:51,632 That media can play in the world. 1770 01:24:51,637 --> 01:24:53,977 I think the media can be the greatest force 1771 01:24:53,978 --> 01:24:55,631 For peace on earth. 1772 01:24:55,636 --> 01:24:58,674 Instead it's wielded as a weapon of war, 1773 01:24:58,675 --> 01:25:00,593 And that has to be challenged. 1774 01:25:01,618 --> 01:25:04,207 I.F. Stone taught us governments lie, 1775 01:25:04,210 --> 01:25:08,529 All governments lie, especially in a time of war. 1776 01:25:08,530 --> 01:25:12,144 When the media acts as a conveyor belt for the lies, 1777 01:25:12,145 --> 01:25:15,626 Why it matters is because lies take lives 1778 01:25:15,632 --> 01:25:19,566 And we see the enormous devastation 1779 01:25:19,567 --> 01:25:20,622 That came from that 1780 01:25:20,623 --> 01:25:22,695 That we still live with today 1781 01:25:22,702 --> 01:25:24,716 So many years later. 1782 01:25:24,718 --> 01:25:28,487 That came from a media that did not challenge the lies. 1783 01:25:29,901 --> 01:25:31,368 Just because you're a journalist 1784 01:25:31,372 --> 01:25:33,348 Doesn't mean you check your humanity at the door. 1785 01:25:33,355 --> 01:25:35,406 This is... you don't somehow get some pass 1786 01:25:35,407 --> 01:25:36,937 To not care about people. 1787 01:25:36,938 --> 01:25:39,691 Sometimes there is only one way of seeing a story, 1788 01:25:39,692 --> 01:25:41,349 And sometimes the truth is just true. 1789 01:25:48,617 --> 01:25:50,535 There's only two types of reporters. 1790 01:25:51,303 --> 01:25:53,478 There's those who care, 1791 01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:55,330 And those who don't. 1792 01:25:55,335 --> 01:25:58,979 Most of 'em don't care, but if you care, 1793 01:25:58,982 --> 01:26:01,763 If you are as I was in El Salvador, 1794 01:26:01,765 --> 01:26:04,738 Or Gaza or Sarajevo, 1795 01:26:04,741 --> 01:26:08,510 Then you are immediately branded as political, 1796 01:26:08,516 --> 01:26:10,491 Because if you care, 1797 01:26:10,499 --> 01:26:14,625 You can't lie to cover up oppression, 1798 01:26:14,626 --> 01:26:17,023 Atrocity, genocide. 1799 01:26:18,944 --> 01:26:21,889 And I.F. Stone cared. 1800 01:26:26,847 --> 01:26:29,311 The Vietnam war has been a terrible defeat 1801 01:26:29,311 --> 01:26:31,009 For all the brand names we believe in. 1802 01:26:31,010 --> 01:26:34,526 For general electric and general motors and at&t. 1803 01:26:34,527 --> 01:26:35,994 For all the great corporations, 1804 01:26:35,998 --> 01:26:38,396 All the great industry that do the push buttons, 1805 01:26:38,397 --> 01:26:39,998 And when they... when they turn to war, 1806 01:26:39,999 --> 01:26:42,173 They know how to kill people en masse. 1807 01:26:42,174 --> 01:26:43,831 And here, down in the jungle, 1808 01:26:43,836 --> 01:26:45,946 Way below is this strange creature 1809 01:26:45,948 --> 01:26:47,866 That we can't crush. 1810 01:26:47,868 --> 01:26:51,704 This strange animal we can't kill. 1811 01:26:51,708 --> 01:26:55,387 It's time to look closely at it and see, by god, 1812 01:26:55,388 --> 01:26:57,881 It's a human being, and isn't that wonderful 1813 01:26:57,883 --> 01:27:00,281 That human beings can resist 1814 01:27:00,283 --> 01:27:02,719 All this murderous technology of ours? 1815 01:27:19,095 --> 01:27:22,422 Very briefly and in no small measure to remind ourselves, 1816 01:27:22,423 --> 01:27:23,832 An observation by stone 1817 01:27:23,833 --> 01:27:26,229 And what he thought journalism was all about. 1818 01:27:26,231 --> 01:27:28,117 In his words, to write the truth, 1819 01:27:28,118 --> 01:27:29,585 To defend the weak against the strong, 1820 01:27:29,589 --> 01:27:32,601 To fight for justice, to bring healing perspectives 1821 01:27:32,601 --> 01:27:36,241 To bear on the terrible hates and fears of mankind 1822 01:27:36,244 --> 01:27:38,095 In the hope of someday bringing about a world 1823 01:27:38,100 --> 01:27:41,840 In which man will enjoy the differences of the human garden 1824 01:27:41,843 --> 01:27:44,557 Instead of killing each other over them. 1825 01:27:44,563 --> 01:27:46,088 If you look you'll find much more. 135417

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