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And in all of my
years of public life,
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I have never obstructed justice.
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And I think, too,
that I can say,
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That in my years of public life,
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That I welcome
this kind of examination
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Because people have got to know
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Whether or not their
president is a crook.
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Well, I'm not a crook.
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To share with you what
the United States knows
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About Iraq's weapons
of mass destruction,
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Every statement I make today
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Is backed up by sources,
solid sources.
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These are not assertions.
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What we're giving you are facts
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And conclusions based
on solid intelligence.
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Renewed hostile actions
against United States ships
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On the high seas
in the gulf of tonkin
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Have today required me
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To order the military forces
of the United States
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To take action in reply.
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So, what I wanted to see
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Is if you could give me a yes
or no answer to the question:
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Does the NSA collect
any type of data at all
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On millions or hundreds
of millions of Americans?
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No, sir.
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It does not?
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Not wittingly.
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You have to get rid
of this ignorant
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And meddlesome majority.
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Control them, make sure
they do the right things
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All for their
own good, incidentally.
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If they're allowed
to participate,
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They'll make all kind
of mistakes, errors,
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But we, the responsible men,
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We know how to do
the right thing
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Like get into the Vietnam war
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And invade Iraq and
deregulate the banks
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So that everything crashes.
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We... we get
everything straight.
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My fellow citizens,
at this hour,
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American and coalition forces
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Are in the early stages
of military operations
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To disarm Iraq,
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To free its people,
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And to defend the world
from grave danger.
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I believe, very deeply,
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In freedom of the press
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And the role of press
in a free society,
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And I have ever
since I was a kid.
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You can't fulfill your
function unless you're free.
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One of the great reporters of
the 20th century, I.F. Stone,
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Told journalism students
never to forget
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That all governments lie.
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He could speak with authority,
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Having spent seven decades
exposing deception
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And official lies
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By digging deep into
government documents
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And transcripts.
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I tried to prove
what I was saying
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From the horse's
mouth, as it were.
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Using the government's
own documents,
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Government reports
and transcripts
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And press conferences, speeches,
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And analyzing them the way...
the way a historian would.
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He gained his
greatest fame and impact
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Publishing a newsletter called
"I.F. Stone's weekly."
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Everybody in government
and journalism knew Izzy stone
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And read his stuff.
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I.F. Stone's weekly
is about this size.
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Well, I.F. Stone's weekly
was a classic example
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Of an independent
journalistic organization
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That was able
to report the truth
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And that's the way
alternative media,
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Which I really think,
is real journalism
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Has always worked as a vehicle
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That has exposed the collusion,
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Hypocrisy and lies of
the commercial media.
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Do you presume to
criticize the great oz,
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You ungrateful creatures?
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I mean, stone was kind
of like Toto, you know.
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It was like his job was
to pull back the curtain.
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The great oz has spoken.
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Oh!
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Pay no attention to that
man behind the curtain!
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And to see what
was behind that curtain
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And what was behind
that curtain, yes,
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It was the
all-powerful oz.
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It was also just
a frightened little man.
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Nothing and nothing that any
of us need to be frightened of,
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And why are... why are
we frightened of that?
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That's the embodiment of what
he and his weekly stood for
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And it certainly was
a huge inspiration to me.
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I want surveillance
of certain mosques, okay?
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I watched in
jersey city, new jersey,
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Where thousands and thousands
of people were cheering
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As that building
was coming down.
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Donald J. Trump is
calling for a total
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And complete shutdown of Muslims
entering the United States
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Until our country's
representatives can figure out
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What the hell is going on.
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You have no choice.
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Who would have thought that
this circus would come to town,
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But you know, it may
not be good for America,
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But it's damn good for CBS,
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That's all I got to say.
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The money's rolling in
and this is fun.
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I've never seen
anything like this,
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And you know, this is gonna
be a very good year for us.
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It's a terrible thing to say,
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But bring it on,
Donald, go ahead.
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Keep going.
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It makes you ask, seriously,
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Whether those executives
who run media conglomerates
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Have any more ethics or morals
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Than those who run
the oil and gas industry,
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The pharmaceutical companies,
the tobacco industry.
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It's an open question to me.
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โช Drivin' my limousine
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โช now it's all designed
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โช to blow our minds
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โช but our minds
won't really be blown โช
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โช Like the blow
that'll get ya โช
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โช When you get your picture
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โช on the cover of
the rolling stone โช
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โช Rolling stone
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โช wanna see our
pictures on the cover โช
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โช Wanna buy five
copies for our mothers โช
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โช Wanna see my
smiling face โช
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โช On the cover
of the rolling stone โช
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We're in new Hampshire,
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Which is like, the capital
of depressed America, where,
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You know, the manufacturing
economy has disappeared,
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And we really don't examine
those issues at all.
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We don't actually
talk to people at all,
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'cause you don't have time.
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There's only time
to watch the speech,
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To ask the people
in the audience
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What they think of the speech
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And then you go on
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And you move on
to the next spot.
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The entire thing could be shot
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In a sound stage in la with...
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Just by rotating in
a different audience each time.
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Well, Donald trump, of course,
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Remains the strong
frontrunner up here
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To win the republican primary
in new Hampshire tomorrow.
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It snows in new Hampshire,
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People know how
to put... get cars.
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They got... they used
to put chains on,
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Now they got good tires.
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Why should they trudge through
the snow for Donald trump?
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Well, you know, my whole concept
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And my whole theme,
frankly, behind it
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Is make America great again.
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Make America great again!
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We're going to make
America great again!
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We're going to make
America great again.
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Build a wall!
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Build a wall!
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I'm very focused on the idea
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That these voters have
completely shifted their tune
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About what they're upset about.
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But you know, there's
a lot of subtleties
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That people in this kind of
audience don't pick up on,
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And he's smart enough to know
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That he can just steamroll right
past a lot of those problems
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And they're not going
to be noticed by anybody.
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Thank you very much, everybody.
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Wow, this is beautiful.
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We had a lot of fun.
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We gave very
high grades on that.
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Even people that hate me
gave me good marks,
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Isn't that amazing?
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For the next 20 minutes,
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He's talking about how
he's gonna slap tariffs
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On every country that
imports to the United States
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And yeah, how he's,
you know, ford is gonna...
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Want to relocate
a factory and he's...
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He, Donald trump, the president,
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Is not going to allow that.
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The idea of giving
the government
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That much power over...
over corporate business
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Doesn't seem to trouble
this audience at all,
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Which is odd when you
think about it after...
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After all those
years of propaganda.
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For years and years and years,
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What was the party line that
we got was that, you know,
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Free enterprise cures all.
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The market is
self-correcting.
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We're the best in the world.
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We have confidence
we're gonna do that.
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Well, that's not what
he's saying anymore.
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People don't have
confidence in that anymore.
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Now they need...
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Now they need the
strong man to step in
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And make sure
that we all get paid.
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I'll bring back our jobs
from china, from Mexico,
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From japan, from so many places.
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I'll bring back our jobs
and I'll bring back our money.
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Matt Taibbi's acerbic
writing on Donald trump
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Is really reminiscent
of I.F. Stone's writing
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On the demagogue
senator Joe McCarthy,
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And presidents like
Ike Eisenhower, john f. Kennedy,
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Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon.
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Matt is sort of a cross
between I.F. Stone
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And Hunter S. Thompson,
the original gonzo journalist,
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Who so raucously, viscerally,
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Would skewer the
powers that were
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In the early '70s.
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And as Izzy was drowned out
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When mainstream media gave
Joe McCarthy his megaphone,
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Taibbi's independent voice
can't really compete
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When mainstream
TV news, for months,
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Provided a fairly
uncritical platform
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And a massive
megaphone to trump.
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When do we beat
Mexico at the border?
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They're laughing at us
at our stupidity.
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They're bringing drugs.
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They're bringing crime.
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They're rapists and some,
I assume, are good people.
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We spent about a year
doing this story,
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And we found evidence
that bodies, human bodies,
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Were buried in,
I would say, a criminal way.
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If we had 200 bodies that
were buried in a criminal way
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In the United States,
if they were Anglo,
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I think that we'd
be hearing about it.
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Because they're Mexican,
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Or because they're
from south of the border,
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For the most part,
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There wasn't any
sort of an uproar.
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The national media
didn't pay attention.
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We found mass graves
in the United States.
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We found people dumped
into a mass grave,
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And they were not catalogued.
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They were not documented,
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They were not properly treated.
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Some individuals were
buried in trash bags.
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The mainstream media,
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If we're talking about
national media coverage
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Of the migrant deaths
in Falfurrias, Texas,
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To my knowledge has
been non-existent.
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Media executives,
for the most part,
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People who make decisions
on what's on television,
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Are really some of the
most ill-informed people
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When it comes
to the news itself.
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The choices that are made
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Are entertainment based.
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Who's pretty?
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Who speaks English?
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These are things that I'm asked
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When I'm pitching a story.
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They're not going to
watch a bunch of bodies
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Being exhumed from a grave-site
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And seeing law enforcement
held accountable.
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That's not something
that's savory,
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And I'm talking about all
of the mainstream media
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On major networks.
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ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS.
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We're being dumbed down,
we're being watered down,
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We're being misinformed,
we're being misled,
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And we're being told
information which is false.
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I remember pitching
a story to 60 minutes,
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Which I had done one
for about a year prior,
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And it was about the border
and it was about migrants.
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Stories that rarely get
to see the light of day,
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And they told me,
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"john, we already did
a border story for you."
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It was a year ago, so there
must only be one border story.
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It's not what their
audience wants to see,
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So they're not interested.
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Even if it's newsworthy,
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They're going to consider
the ratings first.
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The heat index, a combination
of temperature and humidity,
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Is among the highest
in the nation.
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Pictures can't capture,
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And I can't adequately describe,
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How hot and how humid it feels.
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It's like walking through soup.
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Everywhere there are
signs of migrants.
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It's certainly a winter coat.
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Some young woman,
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Probably brought her best
clothes and best jewelry
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'cause she was here
to get a job.
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I think the last time I checked
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There are over 10,000 people
missing from records in Mexico,
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Just in Mexico,
not central America,
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Who have crossed that border.
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That means 10,000 families
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Who are still looking
for their loved ones
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Who may have crossed
that border illegally
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And were never heard from again.
292
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Where are they?
293
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There are no records of them.
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They're probably
in some cemetery plot
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Somewhere in Texas or Arizona.
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This is going on
all over the border.
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My colleagues, we have an
obligation to our citizens.
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We have an obligation
to this body
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To see that our resolutions
are complied with.
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We wrote 1441
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To give Iraq one last chance.
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Iraq is not, so far,
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Taking that one last chance.
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We must not shrink from
whatever is ahead of us
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And our responsibility to
the citizens of the countries
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That are represented
by this body.
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Thank you, Mr. President.
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Did Colin Powell close
the deal today in your mind?
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I think for anybody who
analyzes the situation,
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He has closed the deal.
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This irrefutable, undeniable,
incontrovertible evidence today.
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Colin Powell
brilliantly delivered
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That smoking gun today.
314
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It was so compelling,
315
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I don't see how
anybody at this point
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Can not support this effort.
317
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It was devastating,
I mean, and overwhelming.
318
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Overwhelming abundance
of the evidence.
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This was the mainstream
media's darkest hour.
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Go, go!
321
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Fight, fight!
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They were more
than cheerleaders,
323
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They were complicit.
324
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He just flooded the
terrain with... with data.
325
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The Powell speech has...
has moved the ball.
326
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I think the case is closed.
327
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You do not, under
international law,
328
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Wage a destructive sociocide.
329
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They basically blew
apart the country
330
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'cause they wanted
to get Saddam Hussein.
331
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Well, this is like one of the
greatest international crimes
332
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Since world war ii.
333
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This is ABC world news tonight.
334
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This is NBC nightly news.
335
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This is the CBS evening news.
336
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And it was committed with
the complete complicity
337
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Of the mainstream media
that kept critical voices,
338
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Such as ours, off the air.
339
00:17:23,444 --> 00:17:27,117
Oh, I think it's important
to have experts explain the war
340
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And to describe
the military hardware,
341
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Describe the tactics.
342
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Talk about the strategy
behind the conflict.
343
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I went to the pentagon
myself several times
344
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Before the war started
345
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And met with
important people there
346
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And said, for instance, at CNN,
347
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"here are the generals
we're thinking of retaining
348
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To advise us on the air
and off about the war,"
349
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And we got a big
thumbs up on all of them.
350
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That was important.
351
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Journalists, too many of them,
352
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And some quite explicitly,
353
00:17:51,309 --> 00:17:54,699
Have said that
they see their mission
354
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As helping the war effort.
355
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At MSNBC, I was on the air daily
356
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As a political
and media analyst.
357
00:18:02,698 --> 00:18:04,586
And if you define
your mission that way,
358
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You'll end up suppressing news
359
00:18:06,281 --> 00:18:07,777
That might be
important, accurate,
360
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But maybe isn't helpful
to the war effort.
361
00:18:09,897 --> 00:18:13,215
But I lost my time
because they had to make room
362
00:18:13,225 --> 00:18:15,967
As we got closer to
the invasion of Iraq
363
00:18:15,976 --> 00:18:19,486
For this endless parade
of retired generals,
364
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Majors, admirals,
former CIA chiefs,
365
00:18:23,431 --> 00:18:27,717
And we know now those people
had no independence,
366
00:18:27,718 --> 00:18:30,691
They were being fed talking
points by the pentagon,
367
00:18:30,693 --> 00:18:33,924
And most of what they said, as
our country was driven to war,
368
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Was false.
369
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Wealthy insurance.
370
00:18:47,267 --> 00:18:50,113
From Pacifica,
this is democracy now!
371
00:18:51,649 --> 00:18:53,759
Democracy now!,
it's slightly larger, I think,
372
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Than the space
I.F. Stone operated out of,
373
00:18:56,353 --> 00:18:58,587
But very much modeled
on this idea
374
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Of the media being
a sanctuary of dissent.
375
00:19:01,568 --> 00:19:04,386
You know, necessity is
the mother of invention.
376
00:19:04,386 --> 00:19:05,822
We couldn't afford
the satellites
377
00:19:05,823 --> 00:19:07,262
That the networks had.
378
00:19:07,263 --> 00:19:09,660
We worked with the internet
from the beginning
379
00:19:09,662 --> 00:19:10,909
Out of necessity.
380
00:19:10,910 --> 00:19:15,513
Now, we're broadcasting
on over 1300 radio
381
00:19:15,517 --> 00:19:17,023
And television stations.
382
00:19:17,024 --> 00:19:19,802
Public access TV,
community radio,
383
00:19:19,804 --> 00:19:22,710
Public radio, PBS,
public television,
384
00:19:22,716 --> 00:19:25,689
But we're not there to
win a popularity contest.
385
00:19:25,692 --> 00:19:28,444
We're there to bring out
the voices of people
386
00:19:28,445 --> 00:19:29,623
All over the world.
387
00:19:47,610 --> 00:19:51,576
From Pacifica radio,
this is democracy now!
388
00:19:51,577 --> 00:19:55,960
Pope john Paul it's senior
advisor has arrived in Baghdad
389
00:19:55,961 --> 00:19:57,945
For meetings with
senior Iraqi leaders.
390
00:19:57,946 --> 00:19:59,824
Last night,
he presided over a mass
391
00:19:59,832 --> 00:20:02,162
At st. Joseph's church
in central Baghdad.
392
00:20:02,167 --> 00:20:05,754
Democracy now! Correspondent
Jeremy Scahill was there.
393
00:20:09,141 --> 00:20:10,551
Regardless of their faith,
394
00:20:10,552 --> 00:20:13,042
Iraqis are praying
for a miracle.
395
00:20:13,044 --> 00:20:15,893
Almost no one believes
that war can be averted.
396
00:20:15,894 --> 00:20:18,999
John Paul ii has added his
voice to the growing chorus
397
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,530
Against a war on Iraq,
398
00:20:20,531 --> 00:20:23,695
But it's unlikely that
George W. Bush will listen.
399
00:20:23,698 --> 00:20:25,299
His own Methodist church
has come out
400
00:20:25,300 --> 00:20:26,899
Against an attack on Iraq,
401
00:20:26,900 --> 00:20:29,391
And bush won't even
meet with its leaders.
402
00:20:29,393 --> 00:20:33,009
For democracy now!, this is
Jeremy Scahill in Baghdad.
403
00:20:43,535 --> 00:20:46,853
The problem is most of the
big media are businesses.
404
00:20:46,863 --> 00:20:49,606
They respond to their investors,
405
00:20:49,614 --> 00:20:51,302
The stock market
and their advertisers,
406
00:20:51,310 --> 00:20:54,829
And independent journalists
bring their conscience to work
407
00:20:54,830 --> 00:20:57,937
And they call the situation
as it really is factually,
408
00:20:57,938 --> 00:20:59,496
So they're a rare breed.
409
00:20:59,500 --> 00:21:02,377
They're not indentured
to commercial motivation.
410
00:21:02,380 --> 00:21:05,794
Well, the problem is
is the illusion of free press.
411
00:21:05,804 --> 00:21:08,902
You know, we don't have state
media in the United States,
412
00:21:08,907 --> 00:21:12,043
But if we had it,
how would it be any different?
413
00:21:13,002 --> 00:21:14,728
It's easy to criticize fox.
414
00:21:14,730 --> 00:21:17,607
It's fox, it's CNN,
it's the new york times.
415
00:21:17,610 --> 00:21:19,653
That's why we need
independent journalism.
416
00:21:19,657 --> 00:21:21,796
You know, that's
why we need a media
417
00:21:21,801 --> 00:21:23,776
That challenges
the corporate power.
418
00:21:23,784 --> 00:21:25,577
When we cover war,
we can't be brought to you
419
00:21:25,577 --> 00:21:27,398
By the weapons manufacturers.
420
00:21:27,399 --> 00:21:29,355
When we cover climate change,
we can't be brought to you
421
00:21:29,356 --> 00:21:31,268
By the oil, gas,
coal, nuclear companies.
422
00:21:31,270 --> 00:21:33,025
When we cover healthcare,
we can't be brought to you
423
00:21:33,030 --> 00:21:34,814
By the insurance and
the drug companies.
424
00:21:34,822 --> 00:21:37,123
We have to have a media
425
00:21:37,125 --> 00:21:40,098
That is a counterbalance
to those in power.
426
00:21:40,101 --> 00:21:42,911
It's the only equalizing force.
427
00:21:47,331 --> 00:21:48,991
I think the media
is really nihilistic.
428
00:21:48,996 --> 00:21:50,627
It's... it's about
making money.
429
00:21:52,002 --> 00:21:54,073
What makes money
in this country happens to be
430
00:21:54,082 --> 00:21:56,700
Avoiding difficult truths
about our society.
431
00:21:56,706 --> 00:22:00,003
You know, a story about what
it's like to be on welfare,
432
00:22:00,004 --> 00:22:01,401
That's not a story, right?
433
00:22:01,409 --> 00:22:04,219
But you know, Kim Kardashian
falls into a puddle
434
00:22:04,225 --> 00:22:05,692
In central park, that's a story.
435
00:22:05,696 --> 00:22:08,151
Well, Kim and Kanye,
also known as Kimye,
436
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,092
Are expected to get married
here in Florence this weekend
437
00:22:12,095 --> 00:22:13,562
In a Medici fortress
438
00:22:13,566 --> 00:22:17,181
That cost $400,000 to rent out.
439
00:22:17,182 --> 00:22:20,097
Erin McLaughlin,
CNN, Florence, Italy.
440
00:22:35,612 --> 00:22:37,272
If you had to come
up with a slogan
441
00:22:37,276 --> 00:22:38,840
For what our new
media venture is,
442
00:22:38,843 --> 00:22:41,308
The one that Jeremy Scahill
and Laura Poitras and I are...
443
00:22:41,309 --> 00:22:44,213
Are building under the
aegis of first look media,
444
00:22:44,219 --> 00:22:47,000
You probably could
use as a slogan,
445
00:22:47,002 --> 00:22:48,441
"the spirit of I.F. Stone,
446
00:22:48,441 --> 00:22:50,129
But funded with
$250 million."
447
00:22:50,137 --> 00:22:52,439
Glenn Greenwald has been
a lightning rod for controversy
448
00:22:52,441 --> 00:22:55,634
Since he obtained those secret
NSA documents from Ed Snowden
449
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,242
And published some
of them in the guardian.
450
00:22:57,243 --> 00:22:58,745
Now he's launching
a media company
451
00:22:58,746 --> 00:23:02,800
Backed by wealthy ebay founder,
Pierre Omidyar.
452
00:23:02,807 --> 00:23:05,742
The main thing is you got
to encapsulate all of this
453
00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:08,944
In a way that it
can't be decrypted
454
00:23:08,950 --> 00:23:11,923
And read when it's in
transit across the network,
455
00:23:11,926 --> 00:23:14,323
Or on either of the end points.
456
00:23:14,325 --> 00:23:15,917
Okay, I mean, just so you know,
457
00:23:15,925 --> 00:23:18,322
These documents are basically
all gonna be up-linked within,
458
00:23:18,324 --> 00:23:19,763
Like, 48 hours, 72 hours.
459
00:23:19,764 --> 00:23:21,519
This is... this is
simply, you know,
460
00:23:21,524 --> 00:23:23,480
You want to get in the process
of doing this for everything
461
00:23:23,481 --> 00:23:25,163
Because it seems hard,
but it's not hard.
462
00:23:25,171 --> 00:23:26,312
This is super easy.
463
00:23:30,674 --> 00:23:32,400
Thank you so much
to the academy.
464
00:23:32,401 --> 00:23:35,760
The disclosures that
Edward Snowden reveals
465
00:23:35,761 --> 00:23:38,695
Don't only expose
a threat to our privacy,
466
00:23:38,704 --> 00:23:40,584
But to our democracy itself,
467
00:23:40,591 --> 00:23:42,576
And I share this
with Glenn Greenwald
468
00:23:42,576 --> 00:23:45,327
And other journalists
who are exposing truth.
469
00:23:45,328 --> 00:23:46,506
Thank you.
470
00:23:53,964 --> 00:23:55,527
Was Mr. Daoud
killed immediately
471
00:23:55,531 --> 00:23:57,900
Or did he live for
a while after he was shot?
472
00:24:10,857 --> 00:24:14,760
You saw the us forces take
the bullets out of the body?
473
00:24:17,512 --> 00:24:21,030
When Glenn Greenwald and
Jeremy Scahill teamed up
474
00:24:21,031 --> 00:24:23,333
Together at the intercept,
475
00:24:23,335 --> 00:24:24,581
It was like a...
476
00:24:24,582 --> 00:24:26,405
A dream for
adversarial journalists.
477
00:24:27,973 --> 00:24:31,779
And since 2014, they've
been able, with their team,
478
00:24:31,780 --> 00:24:35,137
To break story after story
of political corruption,
479
00:24:35,140 --> 00:24:37,666
Especially scoop after scoop
480
00:24:37,667 --> 00:24:40,640
About the national security
surveillance state,
481
00:24:40,643 --> 00:24:43,711
Which mainstream journalists
often tend to avoid
482
00:24:43,714 --> 00:24:46,849
Out of a false notion
of patriotism.
483
00:24:46,849 --> 00:24:50,527
Good journalism today has
the state in its cross-hairs,
484
00:24:50,528 --> 00:24:52,667
And you never want
to punch down.
485
00:24:52,672 --> 00:24:54,178
You always want to punch up.
486
00:24:54,178 --> 00:24:55,845
That's what I think
we're trying to do
487
00:24:55,846 --> 00:24:57,049
At the intercept.
488
00:24:58,302 --> 00:24:59,741
And then once
you have that file,
489
00:24:59,743 --> 00:25:01,527
Just right click the file
in the finder.
490
00:25:01,534 --> 00:25:03,232
Were they... were they able
to decrypt it at all?
491
00:25:03,233 --> 00:25:04,285
I don't think so.
492
00:25:04,286 --> 00:25:05,503
Well, you look behind me
493
00:25:05,504 --> 00:25:07,352
And you see a news room
full of fantastic,
494
00:25:07,357 --> 00:25:10,195
Independent reporters who come
from all sorts of backgrounds,
495
00:25:10,204 --> 00:25:12,926
But this is still very much
a... a project in development.
496
00:25:12,927 --> 00:25:14,650
I would say our mission
statement is...
497
00:25:14,651 --> 00:25:16,665
Is to produce adversarial,
fearless journalism.
498
00:25:16,667 --> 00:25:19,419
This central idea that,
I think, everyone shares
499
00:25:19,420 --> 00:25:21,757
Is that the more
power someone wields,
500
00:25:21,758 --> 00:25:23,729
The more journalistic
accountability
501
00:25:23,737 --> 00:25:25,262
And scrutiny they need.
502
00:25:32,727 --> 00:25:35,191
I mean, it says explicitly
there that they're...
503
00:25:35,192 --> 00:25:37,906
That it's supporting drone
surveillance operations.
504
00:25:39,222 --> 00:25:41,942
Most of the bandwidth
is on galaxy 26,
505
00:25:41,943 --> 00:25:44,340
And not an NRO secret site.
506
00:25:44,342 --> 00:25:45,905
That must be the satellite.
507
00:25:45,909 --> 00:25:49,620
Yeah, it can support up to
40 UAV sorties simultaneously.
508
00:25:49,621 --> 00:25:52,563
And these are satellites
showing construction
509
00:25:52,564 --> 00:25:54,130
Of a facility in Germany
510
00:25:54,131 --> 00:25:56,490
That the us uses as part
of its drone program.
511
00:25:56,499 --> 00:25:59,597
The German government
basically is trying to argue
512
00:25:59,602 --> 00:26:00,753
That it doesn't have any...
513
00:26:00,754 --> 00:26:01,872
Any role at all
514
00:26:01,873 --> 00:26:03,724
In the targeted killing program,
515
00:26:03,729 --> 00:26:06,347
'cause that would be
illegal under German law.
516
00:26:06,353 --> 00:26:09,391
It's a story that
involves many countries
517
00:26:09,392 --> 00:26:12,586
Being involved with
the us drone program
518
00:26:12,592 --> 00:26:16,073
And their governments either
are not aware of it, or...
519
00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:17,709
Or they're lying,
520
00:26:17,710 --> 00:26:20,367
And that's part of what
we're trying to nail down.
521
00:26:20,367 --> 00:26:22,991
Part of my discussion that
was shown in citizen-four
522
00:26:22,992 --> 00:26:24,840
With Snowden had some reference
523
00:26:24,845 --> 00:26:25,996
To the use of Ramstein
524
00:26:25,997 --> 00:26:27,760
As part of a chain of command
525
00:26:27,761 --> 00:26:30,154
In which these drone
executions are carried out.
526
00:26:32,460 --> 00:26:33,649
You know that?
527
00:26:34,794 --> 00:26:38,218
But the drone papers
really solidified this...
528
00:26:38,219 --> 00:26:40,617
This role in a way
that is really important
529
00:26:40,619 --> 00:26:42,086
And it created,
actually, some debate
530
00:26:42,090 --> 00:26:43,594
And some scandal in Germany.
531
00:26:43,595 --> 00:26:47,400
The German population was almost
entirely unaware of the role
532
00:26:47,401 --> 00:26:50,662
That Ramstein is playing in
this program, and obviously,
533
00:26:50,665 --> 00:26:52,640
Germans overwhelmingly
oppose the death penalty
534
00:26:52,648 --> 00:26:55,274
And so it stands to reason
that if they had known about it,
535
00:26:55,275 --> 00:26:57,382
They never would
have allowed it.
536
00:26:57,384 --> 00:26:58,947
This is the most sophisticated
537
00:26:58,951 --> 00:27:01,789
So-called clean way
of bumping people off.
538
00:27:03,941 --> 00:27:06,598
I became sort of obsessed
with this notion that a man
539
00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:09,311
Who is a constitutional lawyer
by training,
540
00:27:09,317 --> 00:27:13,571
Who won the Nobel peace prize,
is presiding over a...
541
00:27:13,572 --> 00:27:16,483
An attempt to legitimize
542
00:27:16,484 --> 00:27:19,198
And some would say,
legalize assassination
543
00:27:19,204 --> 00:27:23,136
As a central component
of us policy.
544
00:27:23,139 --> 00:27:26,716
I'll make our government
open and transparent,
545
00:27:26,722 --> 00:27:28,160
So that anyone can ensure
546
00:27:28,161 --> 00:27:31,264
That our business is
the people's business.
547
00:27:31,265 --> 00:27:33,057
Just as Louis Brandeis
once said,
548
00:27:33,058 --> 00:27:35,415
"sunlight is the
greatest disinfectant."
549
00:27:35,424 --> 00:27:37,438
Who would have thought
that we'd get a president
550
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,550
Who is a charismatic, perhaps...
551
00:27:39,552 --> 00:27:40,961
Probably one of the
smartest presidents,
552
00:27:40,962 --> 00:27:43,961
If not the smartest
president in us history,
553
00:27:43,967 --> 00:27:46,173
With a great background
in social justice causes
554
00:27:46,175 --> 00:27:49,915
Who would preside over more
prosecutions of whistle blowers
555
00:27:49,918 --> 00:27:53,437
As spies than all previous
administrations combined,
556
00:27:53,438 --> 00:27:56,248
Who would expand
the drone program
557
00:27:56,253 --> 00:27:59,476
And try to legitimize
the assassination program?
558
00:27:59,485 --> 00:28:00,665
When Obama was elected,
559
00:28:00,669 --> 00:28:01,983
He pledged that
his administration
560
00:28:01,984 --> 00:28:04,023
Was going to be the most
transparent in history.
561
00:28:04,028 --> 00:28:05,339
No more secrecy.
562
00:28:05,340 --> 00:28:07,230
That's the commitment
I make to you as president.
563
00:28:12,889 --> 00:28:14,553
No more secrecy.
564
00:28:14,554 --> 00:28:17,009
You know, we'll
work with sources
565
00:28:17,018 --> 00:28:19,156
Or with documents
that we've obtained,
566
00:28:19,161 --> 00:28:21,559
And then you, you know,
you try to hunt down
567
00:28:21,561 --> 00:28:23,766
The publicly available
record on these things
568
00:28:23,768 --> 00:28:25,168
And I mean, an incredible
amount of stuff
569
00:28:25,176 --> 00:28:26,845
Is sort of hidden in plain sight
570
00:28:26,846 --> 00:28:28,816
If you dig far enough.
571
00:28:28,823 --> 00:28:30,511
That's all of what
I.F. Stone was doing.
572
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:32,725
I guess what's different
is that, you know,
573
00:28:32,727 --> 00:28:35,345
Part of what we do is
try to cultivate sources
574
00:28:35,351 --> 00:28:37,173
And talk to people who
are directly knowledgeable
575
00:28:37,174 --> 00:28:40,243
About various operations
in the military
576
00:28:40,246 --> 00:28:43,410
Or the CIA or the NSA
and then, you know,
577
00:28:43,413 --> 00:28:46,674
Then you start going
down a rabbit hole.
578
00:28:47,794 --> 00:28:49,261
I mean, I've often
said that I thought
579
00:28:49,266 --> 00:28:51,889
That I.F. Stone
is the first blogger,
580
00:28:51,890 --> 00:28:56,398
Even though he existed
before bloggers existed,
581
00:28:56,401 --> 00:28:58,606
But in my view,
he really encapsulated
582
00:28:58,608 --> 00:29:00,593
What became the new media ethos,
583
00:29:00,594 --> 00:29:05,195
Which is the idea of working
as independently as possible
584
00:29:05,199 --> 00:29:08,776
From all of the power
factions and centers
585
00:29:08,782 --> 00:29:10,476
On which you're reporting,
586
00:29:10,477 --> 00:29:13,930
And what we've built here, in
terms of our new media outlet,
587
00:29:13,933 --> 00:29:18,859
Is very much, I think, based
on the ethos that he pioneered.
588
00:29:21,612 --> 00:29:24,650
Ooh, do you feel the
breeze from the subway?
589
00:29:24,651 --> 00:29:26,214
Isn't it delicious?
590
00:29:44,905 --> 00:29:46,535
I got to meet I.F. Stone
591
00:29:46,536 --> 00:29:49,479
In the mid '80s
in Washington, do.
592
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,414
I wanted to put out my
own weekly moore's weekly,
593
00:29:52,423 --> 00:29:55,808
And I just wanted to go
and talk to him about it.
594
00:29:55,814 --> 00:29:58,020
It was just an amazing afternoon
595
00:29:58,022 --> 00:30:00,132
That I got to have with him
596
00:30:00,134 --> 00:30:02,464
To really, kind of,
pick his brain
597
00:30:02,469 --> 00:30:04,608
And tell him, you know,
what I wanted to do
598
00:30:04,612 --> 00:30:06,204
And he gave me,
you know, good advice.
599
00:30:06,212 --> 00:30:09,291
Advice I kind of already knew,
because I'd read him, you know.
600
00:30:09,292 --> 00:30:10,751
His... his great motto
601
00:30:10,755 --> 00:30:12,606
Of all governments
are run by liars
602
00:30:12,611 --> 00:30:14,270
And nothing they say
should be believed,
603
00:30:14,275 --> 00:30:15,905
And he said...
he said to me,
604
00:30:15,906 --> 00:30:17,315
But I would expand that now
605
00:30:17,316 --> 00:30:19,202
To governments, corporations,
606
00:30:19,203 --> 00:30:21,177
You know, it's not just
the... the government.
607
00:30:21,185 --> 00:30:23,678
It's this... that...
anybody in power.
608
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,147
You must start, as a journalist,
609
00:30:25,151 --> 00:30:27,549
With the assumption that
they are lying to you.
610
00:30:27,551 --> 00:30:29,631
Now, some of them
may not be lying,
611
00:30:29,632 --> 00:30:31,260
But it's their duty
to prove to you,
612
00:30:31,261 --> 00:30:32,863
The journalist,
that they're not lying.
613
00:30:34,331 --> 00:30:37,023
Through high school,
I read I.F. Stone's weekly.
614
00:30:37,024 --> 00:30:38,487
One of the things
I learned was that
615
00:30:38,490 --> 00:30:41,559
Humor isn't just
about telling jokes
616
00:30:41,562 --> 00:30:43,353
Or just about funny ha-ha.
617
00:30:43,354 --> 00:30:47,957
Humor can be the most piercing
of political weapons.
618
00:30:47,961 --> 00:30:51,251
I'm... I'm stunned that more
people actually don't use humor
619
00:30:51,256 --> 00:30:53,239
Because it's so powerful,
620
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,241
And one of the great things
that you learn about humor
621
00:30:56,247 --> 00:30:58,769
And good ridicule
when in politics
622
00:30:58,774 --> 00:31:01,747
Is that it's very hard
to respond to it.
623
00:31:01,750 --> 00:31:03,320
The FAA has taken the action
624
00:31:03,321 --> 00:31:06,453
To close all of the airports
in the United States.
625
00:31:06,454 --> 00:31:08,812
Thousands of travelers
were stranded.
626
00:31:08,820 --> 00:31:10,287
Among them, Ricky martin,
627
00:31:10,291 --> 00:31:12,785
Due to appear at tonight's
Latin Grammy awards.
628
00:31:12,787 --> 00:31:15,410
Not even Ricky martin could fly.
629
00:31:15,411 --> 00:31:18,221
But really, who wanted to fly?
630
00:31:18,226 --> 00:31:19,441
No one.
631
00:31:19,442 --> 00:31:21,808
Except the Bin Ladens.
632
00:31:21,809 --> 00:31:25,291
โช We got to get
out of this place โช
633
00:31:25,296 --> 00:31:28,874
โช If it's the last
thing we ever do โช
634
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,056
That whole idea of
how I found that thing
635
00:31:31,057 --> 00:31:32,715
On the FBI and the
bush administration
636
00:31:32,719 --> 00:31:35,625
Allowing the bin Ladens to
fly out the day after 9/11,
637
00:31:35,631 --> 00:31:37,682
That is directly
from I.F. Stone.
638
00:31:37,682 --> 00:31:39,146
He said to me, he said,
639
00:31:39,150 --> 00:31:41,739
"when you pick up the paper,
you go to page 17 first."
640
00:31:41,741 --> 00:31:42,959
Don't read the front page.
641
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,217
Skip the front page,
go to page 17.
642
00:31:46,220 --> 00:31:47,916
'Cause that's where
the truth is.
643
00:31:47,917 --> 00:31:49,324
And it's gonna be really small.
644
00:31:49,325 --> 00:31:51,913
It might be in a little
two paragraph story,
645
00:31:51,915 --> 00:31:54,569
Or it'll be buried
in paragraph 78,
646
00:31:54,570 --> 00:31:56,105
But that's where
they're putting it,
647
00:31:56,106 --> 00:31:57,352
And they know
what they're doing.
648
00:31:57,353 --> 00:31:58,571
"So, you just
go right there."
649
00:31:58,572 --> 00:31:59,652
Yeah.
650
00:32:15,718 --> 00:32:18,182
What I saw and learned
651
00:32:18,183 --> 00:32:21,765
From reading
I.F. Stone's weekly
652
00:32:21,766 --> 00:32:25,151
Was about an agenda
653
00:32:25,157 --> 00:32:27,075
That was not determined
654
00:32:27,077 --> 00:32:29,724
By conventional wisdom.
655
00:32:29,733 --> 00:32:34,019
To me, that's the real
enemy of great reporting
656
00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:35,353
Is conventional wisdom.
657
00:32:35,364 --> 00:32:37,244
- Mrs. Hamblin?
- Yes.
658
00:32:37,251 --> 00:32:39,714
Hi, we're from
the Washington post.
659
00:32:39,715 --> 00:32:41,699
I'm Carl Bernstein,
this is bob Woodward.
660
00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:44,096
A friend of the committee said
that we could contact you.
661
00:32:44,098 --> 00:32:47,873
I brought no
ideological baggage.
662
00:32:47,874 --> 00:32:50,912
Whatever my background
was to Watergate,
663
00:32:50,913 --> 00:32:54,240
I brought
a reportorial sense to it,
664
00:32:54,241 --> 00:32:55,871
Partly because I thought,
665
00:32:55,872 --> 00:32:57,598
"how could the president
of the united sates
666
00:32:57,599 --> 00:32:59,259
Be involved in
something this dumb?"
667
00:32:59,263 --> 00:33:00,702
At the beginning.
668
00:33:00,703 --> 00:33:03,254
Conventional wisdom is
the enemy of good reporting
669
00:33:03,262 --> 00:33:05,046
And I think Izzy
understood that.
670
00:33:05,054 --> 00:33:07,773
I understood that
from the get-go.
671
00:33:07,774 --> 00:33:09,308
Can I help you in some way?
672
00:33:09,309 --> 00:33:10,968
Yeah, I'm Carl Bernstein,
I've been waiting here
673
00:33:10,973 --> 00:33:12,220
- Since nine in the morning.
- Would you wait outside?
674
00:33:12,221 --> 00:33:13,525
I've been waiting
out since this morning.
675
00:33:13,533 --> 00:33:14,674
Go ahead and finish your call.
676
00:33:14,685 --> 00:33:15,577
Wait outside, please, will you?
677
00:33:15,580 --> 00:33:16,952
No, no, no, no, no.
678
00:33:16,956 --> 00:33:18,394
I'm the reporter from
the Washington post.
679
00:33:18,395 --> 00:33:19,920
We talked on the
telephone yesterday,
680
00:33:19,931 --> 00:33:21,494
And you told me to come
on down here and I'm here.
681
00:33:21,498 --> 00:33:23,540
Okay, yeah,
I got the press here.
682
00:33:23,545 --> 00:33:26,480
Watergate is an unusual
instance, and I mean,
683
00:33:26,489 --> 00:33:28,694
At first people didn't believe
the stories we were writing,
684
00:33:28,696 --> 00:33:31,286
Including most of our colleagues
in the press in Washington.
685
00:33:31,288 --> 00:33:33,906
Watergate is an unusual instance
686
00:33:33,912 --> 00:33:35,962
In which the right
things happened.
687
00:33:35,963 --> 00:33:37,618
Bernstein got another source.
688
00:33:37,623 --> 00:33:38,966
The guy at justice confirmed.
689
00:33:40,085 --> 00:33:42,003
If there's any doubt,
we can run it tomorrow.
690
00:33:42,006 --> 00:33:43,864
You don't have to, the story's
solid, we're sure of it.
691
00:33:43,865 --> 00:33:45,553
I just got off the phone
with him, it's gold.
692
00:33:47,956 --> 00:33:49,519
Okay, we go with it.
693
00:34:17,009 --> 00:34:18,419
Normally, when I get in,
694
00:34:18,420 --> 00:34:21,140
Which is around this
time, 1:00, 2:00, 2:30 P.M.,
695
00:34:21,140 --> 00:34:23,056
I see what else
the morning producer,
696
00:34:23,058 --> 00:34:24,813
'cause the morning
producer leaves,
697
00:34:24,817 --> 00:34:27,119
Like, early afternoon
around 3:00,
698
00:34:27,121 --> 00:34:29,710
But he's normally, you know,
699
00:34:29,712 --> 00:34:32,618
Checked out a few
possible stories,
700
00:34:32,624 --> 00:34:34,704
So depending on what he suggests
701
00:34:34,705 --> 00:34:36,909
And he's often been in
conversation with Amy,
702
00:34:36,911 --> 00:34:39,117
I immediately start
reaching out to people
703
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:42,120
To guess potential guests.
704
00:34:42,126 --> 00:34:43,757
Yeah, I think that
should be fine.
705
00:34:43,758 --> 00:34:48,460
We'll just make sure to
start with another segment
706
00:34:48,461 --> 00:34:50,120
And then, you could be on,
707
00:34:50,125 --> 00:34:52,906
Like, at 8:00, at 8:30.
708
00:34:56,587 --> 00:34:59,751
Amira Hass is here,
and she leaves Saturday,
709
00:34:59,755 --> 00:35:02,891
So I think we should definitely
have her in the studio tomorrow.
710
00:35:02,892 --> 00:35:04,297
Sharif is here.
711
00:35:04,298 --> 00:35:06,725
- And he has this investigation.
- On Yemen, yeah.
712
00:35:06,729 --> 00:35:09,798
And then, anything else that
happens in the world today.
713
00:35:09,801 --> 00:35:11,652
Okay, now going to
pitch on the stations
714
00:35:11,657 --> 00:35:12,904
To make sure they're around
715
00:35:12,905 --> 00:35:14,784
So that we can
continue to broadcast.
716
00:35:14,792 --> 00:35:16,614
Okay, that's great,
Amy, thank you.
717
00:35:26,790 --> 00:35:28,420
So your son served in Iraq?
718
00:35:28,422 --> 00:35:32,603
Yeah, he survived
like three ambushes,
719
00:35:32,613 --> 00:35:33,889
But he came out screwed up.
720
00:35:33,892 --> 00:35:37,604
He's, you know,
the PTSD, you know.
721
00:35:41,123 --> 00:35:42,561
Here.
722
00:35:44,354 --> 00:35:46,559
Well, handsome man.
723
00:35:46,562 --> 00:35:48,030
Yeah.
724
00:35:48,033 --> 00:35:50,912
How many life
has to be destroyed?
725
00:35:50,913 --> 00:35:52,218
How many family?
726
00:35:55,968 --> 00:35:58,106
Stupid wars,
you know, it's like...
727
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:02,037
But you feel kinda,
you know, in danger.
728
00:36:02,047 --> 00:36:04,214
Have you been threatened before?
729
00:36:04,222 --> 00:36:08,541
There's dangers, yeah,
of working there now.
730
00:36:08,542 --> 00:36:10,460
But the risks we take
731
00:36:10,462 --> 00:36:12,792
Are much less than what
other people are doing,
732
00:36:12,797 --> 00:36:15,003
So especially people
who work in human rights.
733
00:36:15,005 --> 00:36:18,745
They have much bigger risks and
so, compared to them, you know,
734
00:36:18,748 --> 00:36:21,308
You get courage when you...
when you see them work.
735
00:36:21,309 --> 00:36:23,609
You know, they say, you know,
736
00:36:23,611 --> 00:36:25,145
We're engaged in
a war on terror,
737
00:36:25,146 --> 00:36:27,132
And they use the same
language as they use here,
738
00:36:27,133 --> 00:36:28,597
"war on terror."
739
00:36:28,601 --> 00:36:31,227
But the policies just
result in more terror,
740
00:36:31,228 --> 00:36:33,143
So we have more terrorism now,
741
00:36:33,145 --> 00:36:34,392
And more war.
742
00:36:38,166 --> 00:36:39,730
I started working in journalism
743
00:36:39,734 --> 00:36:44,117
Right around the beginning
of the Iraq war in 2003.
744
00:36:46,037 --> 00:36:47,917
- Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you too.
745
00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:52,916
It was very frustrating
as a young person
746
00:36:52,917 --> 00:36:55,411
Living here in
new york, as an Arab,
747
00:36:55,413 --> 00:36:57,906
As someone who was
newly politicized
748
00:36:57,908 --> 00:37:01,619
And watching this massive
invasion being drummed up.
749
00:37:01,620 --> 00:37:04,401
One felt like you had to scream
and say, "this is wrong."
750
00:37:04,403 --> 00:37:06,350
And there were these
kinds of protests
751
00:37:06,354 --> 00:37:09,136
And it was when I first
heard democracy now!
752
00:37:09,138 --> 00:37:11,792
And I first heard
these kinds of voices
753
00:37:11,793 --> 00:37:14,670
That I hadn't heard
at all on other airwaves.
754
00:37:14,673 --> 00:37:17,358
Voices of dissent,
voices of opposition.
755
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,650
People who were
not allowed on the air.
756
00:37:20,656 --> 00:37:23,377
I was very much drawn
to this kind of journalism.
757
00:37:23,378 --> 00:37:24,843
My first day at democracy now!
758
00:37:24,847 --> 00:37:27,952
Is the first day of the
Iraq war, March 19th, 2003.
759
00:37:27,953 --> 00:37:30,664
Reporter Nicholas Kulish
who broke this story.
760
00:37:30,670 --> 00:37:33,133
All that and more, coming up.
761
00:37:33,134 --> 00:37:35,819
Amy Goodman has nurtured
a number of journalists,
762
00:37:35,821 --> 00:37:37,988
Including Sharif Abdel Kouddous.
763
00:37:37,996 --> 00:37:40,873
He was a correspondent,
a senior producer,
764
00:37:40,876 --> 00:37:42,948
He was occasionally a co-host,
765
00:37:42,955 --> 00:37:46,378
And then 2011,
the uprising begins in Egypt,
766
00:37:46,379 --> 00:37:48,719
The country that
Sharif was born in,
767
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:51,620
And he flies to Egypt
768
00:37:51,626 --> 00:37:54,503
And country is almost
unrecognizable to him.
769
00:37:54,506 --> 00:37:57,412
That the fear was gone
and his vivid reporting
770
00:37:57,418 --> 00:38:00,904
Had millions of people
following his reporting.
771
00:38:00,905 --> 00:38:03,043
It's just after 10:00 A.M.
On Tuesday morning.
772
00:38:03,048 --> 00:38:05,407
Today marks the
one week anniversary
773
00:38:05,416 --> 00:38:08,583
Of the popular uprising
that began January 25th.
774
00:38:08,584 --> 00:38:11,749
There's more people here than
I have ever seen in Tahrir,
775
00:38:11,751 --> 00:38:13,219
Yet in this revolt.
776
00:38:13,223 --> 00:38:14,505
Today's the day that they say
777
00:38:14,506 --> 00:38:16,161
They're going
to get Mubarak out.
778
00:38:22,308 --> 00:38:24,091
For more, we're joined
by Sharif Abdel Kouddous
779
00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:25,855
Who's just returned from Yemen.
780
00:38:25,860 --> 00:38:27,490
He's a democracy now!
Correspondent,
781
00:38:27,491 --> 00:38:29,026
A fellow at the
nation institute,
782
00:38:29,027 --> 00:38:32,805
And he's recently written a
piece for the global post called
783
00:38:32,806 --> 00:38:36,609
"with us help, Saudi Arabia
is obliterating Yemen."
784
00:38:36,610 --> 00:38:39,324
It's the first
of a two part series on Yemen.
785
00:38:39,330 --> 00:38:41,564
Sharif, start off
by just explaining
786
00:38:41,569 --> 00:38:44,542
What you found in your
weeks-long trip there.
787
00:38:44,545 --> 00:38:45,827
Well, I spent most of the time
788
00:38:45,828 --> 00:38:47,551
In the outhits controlled
north of Yemen
789
00:38:47,551 --> 00:38:48,760
And this is an area
790
00:38:48,767 --> 00:38:50,426
That's been pounded relentlessly
791
00:38:50,431 --> 00:38:54,493
For the past nine months
with near daily air strikes.
792
00:38:54,494 --> 00:38:56,566
You can't visit a city
or a town in Yemen
793
00:38:56,573 --> 00:38:59,546
Without seeing
the destruction on the ground.
794
00:38:59,549 --> 00:39:02,071
Everything has
been hit from homes
795
00:39:02,076 --> 00:39:04,570
To schools, restaurants,
bridges, roads,
796
00:39:04,572 --> 00:39:07,506
A lot of civilian
infrastructure and...
797
00:39:07,515 --> 00:39:10,037
And with that, of course,
comes a lot of the suffering.
798
00:39:14,201 --> 00:39:17,491
The Saudi bombing campaign
is backed by the United States
799
00:39:17,497 --> 00:39:19,451
With logistics and
intelligence support,
800
00:39:19,452 --> 00:39:22,775
And I think that's a fact that
many Americans don't realize
801
00:39:22,776 --> 00:39:25,941
That they're complicit
with their tax dollars
802
00:39:25,944 --> 00:39:28,341
In this conflict
that has civilians
803
00:39:28,343 --> 00:39:30,774
At the epicenter
of its suffering.
804
00:39:30,775 --> 00:39:32,434
Be very careful back there.
805
00:39:32,438 --> 00:39:33,465
I will.
806
00:39:40,596 --> 00:39:42,802
These are mass graves
they're combing all day.
807
00:39:42,804 --> 00:39:43,955
Every one is different.
808
00:39:43,956 --> 00:39:46,420
Would you want your
son buried that way?
809
00:39:46,421 --> 00:39:48,884
Or your mom or your
sister or your brother?
810
00:39:48,885 --> 00:39:52,144
I mean, this isn't how you want
someone you love to be buried.
811
00:40:06,097 --> 00:40:07,696
So good to see you.
812
00:40:07,697 --> 00:40:09,480
You too, sorry, I'm standing
in the door to keep it open.
813
00:40:09,488 --> 00:40:10,764
Ah, how are you guys?
814
00:40:10,767 --> 00:40:12,235
I'm great, thank you.
815
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,799
Good, well, we could do
the elevator or the stairs.
816
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:15,853
How many flights up?
817
00:40:19,086 --> 00:40:21,963
Hey, Audrey, do
you remember john?
818
00:40:21,966 --> 00:40:24,009
Audrey, john, nice to meet you.
819
00:40:24,014 --> 00:40:25,481
Thank you so much
for doing the work.
820
00:40:36,492 --> 00:40:38,602
Okay, john, so this is what
821
00:40:38,604 --> 00:40:41,579
We end up with oftentimes.
822
00:40:41,580 --> 00:40:44,102
So, you can see
these are really white
823
00:40:44,107 --> 00:40:45,967
Because they're sun bleached.
824
00:40:45,968 --> 00:40:50,441
So, this person was out
for a long period of time,
825
00:40:50,442 --> 00:40:55,303
And they also sustained quite
a bit of carnivore damage,
826
00:40:55,304 --> 00:40:57,443
But you can see
this is an individual
827
00:40:57,448 --> 00:41:01,766
Who has 206 bones at
a minimum in their body,
828
00:41:01,767 --> 00:41:03,331
And we have three.
829
00:41:03,334 --> 00:41:05,799
And there's no way you will
ever identify this person.
830
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,782
Well, we have taken a DNA sample
831
00:41:07,783 --> 00:41:09,728
And this was actually analyzed
832
00:41:09,733 --> 00:41:11,621
At the central
identification lab
833
00:41:11,622 --> 00:41:13,155
Through the joint armed forces.
834
00:41:13,156 --> 00:41:17,058
It could be if we can match
this DNA sample to a family.
835
00:41:26,306 --> 00:41:30,817
I have no doubt that if
200 poodles were mis-buried,
836
00:41:30,818 --> 00:41:32,160
Everybody would be up in arms.
837
00:41:32,161 --> 00:41:34,722
We'd probably change
some sort of poodle law
838
00:41:34,723 --> 00:41:36,792
To make sure that these
were buried properly.
839
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,035
The fact that these
were 200 human migrants,
840
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,437
Mostly Latin American,
841
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,521
Is the reason that
nothing has been done.
842
00:41:45,887 --> 00:41:47,967
It's the sole reason
that nothing has been done.
843
00:41:47,968 --> 00:41:49,501
These people don't count.
844
00:41:49,502 --> 00:41:51,324
For the most part, they're
considered to be criminal.
845
00:41:51,325 --> 00:41:52,667
They're here to rob your jobs,
846
00:41:52,668 --> 00:41:54,527
They're here to
ruin our economy.
847
00:41:54,528 --> 00:41:57,142
Donald trump would like to build
a wall to separate us from them.
848
00:41:57,148 --> 00:41:59,546
They're marginalized
and they're vilified,
849
00:41:59,548 --> 00:42:04,017
So if they die and are thrown
into a hole in the ground,
850
00:42:04,026 --> 00:42:05,206
Good riddance.
851
00:42:06,136 --> 00:42:07,508
Para ti.
852
00:42:09,048 --> 00:42:10,166
ยฟComo Te llamas?
853
00:42:10,167 --> 00:42:11,347
- Carlos.
- Carlos.
854
00:42:11,351 --> 00:42:12,853
Soy Reportero.
855
00:42:33,493 --> 00:42:37,460
My father really believed in
the importance of a free press.
856
00:42:37,460 --> 00:42:41,297
He once told me, "if something
goes wrong with the government",
857
00:42:41,300 --> 00:42:43,822
A free press will ferret it out,
858
00:42:43,827 --> 00:42:45,227
And it will get fixed.
859
00:42:45,234 --> 00:42:47,219
But if something goes
wrong with the free press,
860
00:42:47,220 --> 00:42:49,328
"The country will go
straight to hell."
861
00:42:49,330 --> 00:42:51,568
This is the typewriter on which
862
00:42:51,569 --> 00:42:54,830
My father typed
with two fingers.
863
00:42:54,833 --> 00:42:56,655
So, how long was he
using this typewriter?
864
00:42:56,656 --> 00:42:58,798
Well, as long as I
can remember, really.
865
00:42:58,799 --> 00:43:00,842
It's a... it's amazing that he
would type with two fingers.
866
00:43:00,847 --> 00:43:03,089
So, he never... he never
learned how to type with...
867
00:43:03,090 --> 00:43:04,620
He wasn't very mechanical.
868
00:43:04,621 --> 00:43:07,882
In fact, our cars
kept breaking down
869
00:43:07,885 --> 00:43:09,832
Because he never
changed the oil.
870
00:43:22,635 --> 00:43:26,633
I.F. Stone was both
an investigator and a writer
871
00:43:26,634 --> 00:43:30,697
With sarcasm and wit
and humor in his work,
872
00:43:30,698 --> 00:43:32,328
And today's I.F. Stones,
873
00:43:32,329 --> 00:43:35,110
A lot of them don't come
to that level of writing,
874
00:43:35,112 --> 00:43:38,823
Except when you think
of Matt Taibbi.
875
00:43:38,824 --> 00:43:40,962
The media has spent
decades turning the news
876
00:43:40,967 --> 00:43:42,051
Into a consumer business
877
00:43:42,055 --> 00:43:43,618
That's basically
indistinguishable
878
00:43:43,622 --> 00:43:45,674
From selling cheeseburgers
or video games.
879
00:43:46,404 --> 00:43:47,459
You want bigger margins,
880
00:43:47,461 --> 00:43:48,669
You just cram the product full
881
00:43:48,676 --> 00:43:50,726
Of more fat and
sugar and violence
882
00:43:50,727 --> 00:43:53,217
And you wait for your obese,
over-stimulated consumer
883
00:43:53,219 --> 00:43:54,818
To come waddling forth.
884
00:43:57,378 --> 00:43:59,939
Breaking news right now,
just coming into the ABC...
885
00:43:59,940 --> 00:44:02,240
The death toll has
risen even higher today.
886
00:44:02,242 --> 00:44:04,706
We start with celebrities
behaving badly.
887
00:44:04,707 --> 00:44:06,815
Squealing, like, panda
lovers all over the planet
888
00:44:06,817 --> 00:44:10,299
Riveted as this mama bear
delivers a cub, and then...
889
00:44:10,304 --> 00:44:12,568
People can vape without...
890
00:44:12,576 --> 00:44:15,415
As his hover booster
board burst into...
891
00:44:15,424 --> 00:44:17,217
Congresswoman, let me
interrupt you just for a moment,
892
00:44:17,218 --> 00:44:19,009
We've got some
breaking news out of Miami.
893
00:44:19,009 --> 00:44:21,021
Stand by, if you will.
894
00:44:21,022 --> 00:44:23,744
Right now, in Miami,
Justin Bieber has been arrested
895
00:44:23,745 --> 00:44:25,047
On a number of charges that...
896
00:44:26,429 --> 00:44:28,701
What we call right wing and
liberal media in this country
897
00:44:28,702 --> 00:44:30,361
Are really just two
different strategies
898
00:44:30,365 --> 00:44:33,884
Of the same kind of nihilistic
lizard-brain sensationalism.
899
00:44:33,885 --> 00:44:36,607
There's nothing but murders,
bombs, and panda births
900
00:44:36,608 --> 00:44:38,331
Delivering to
thickening couch potatoes
901
00:44:38,332 --> 00:44:42,552
In ever briefer blasts
of 40, 30, 20 seconds.
902
00:44:44,698 --> 00:44:46,300
The world's most
powerful investment bank
903
00:44:46,301 --> 00:44:49,300
Is a great vampire squid wrapped
around the face of humanity,
904
00:44:49,306 --> 00:44:52,250
Relentlessly jamming its
blood funnel into anything
905
00:44:52,251 --> 00:44:54,455
That smells like money.
906
00:44:54,457 --> 00:44:56,375
And the funny part about
that is, of course,
907
00:44:56,377 --> 00:44:58,928
Vampire squids don't
have blood funnels,
908
00:44:58,936 --> 00:45:02,350
So we had a fact checking
issue with that, and it was...
909
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,173
But I thought that was part
of what made that funny
910
00:45:04,183 --> 00:45:07,060
Was that, you know, it was
a nonsensical image, right.
911
00:45:07,063 --> 00:45:08,694
You know, you had
this thing that was
912
00:45:08,695 --> 00:45:10,258
At once terrifying,
and ridiculous.
913
00:45:10,262 --> 00:45:13,177
I thought that summed up
what the bank was all about.
914
00:45:18,162 --> 00:45:21,519
In news from Iraq, at least
16 people were killed Thursday
915
00:45:21,522 --> 00:45:24,840
In clashes between us troops
and Shia militias in Baghdad.
916
00:45:24,850 --> 00:45:28,302
The dead included a photographer
for the Reuters news agency,
917
00:45:28,304 --> 00:45:29,608
And his driver.
918
00:45:29,616 --> 00:45:32,397
They apparently came under
fire from a us helicopter.
919
00:46:18,603 --> 00:46:20,655
In December,
democracy now! Traveled
920
00:46:20,656 --> 00:46:22,501
To the Calais refugee camp.
921
00:46:22,506 --> 00:46:24,808
The largest
refugee camp in France,
922
00:46:24,810 --> 00:46:27,016
About two hours north of Paris.
923
00:46:27,017 --> 00:46:29,990
Six to seven thousand
people are living there,
924
00:46:29,993 --> 00:46:31,911
Camped out in makeshift tents.
925
00:46:33,224 --> 00:46:35,526
Occasionally
people stop to talk,
926
00:46:35,529 --> 00:46:38,279
But we've been
warned over and over
927
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,004
That people don't want
their faces shown.
928
00:46:41,702 --> 00:46:43,110
They're afraid.
929
00:46:43,111 --> 00:46:44,962
They're afraid of
being targeted here
930
00:46:44,967 --> 00:46:46,441
And they're afraid
their families
931
00:46:46,442 --> 00:46:48,001
Will be targeted at home.
932
00:46:49,188 --> 00:46:51,163
Were there drone strikes...
933
00:46:51,172 --> 00:46:52,965
Yes, there were drone attacks.
934
00:46:52,966 --> 00:46:56,674
They are always killing innocent
people in the villages.
935
00:46:56,675 --> 00:47:01,314
Civilians become very angry and
they join the group of Taliban.
936
00:47:01,315 --> 00:47:04,480
So, what do you think
the us should be doing now?
937
00:47:04,482 --> 00:47:07,873
You know, us is just
increasing the war.
938
00:47:07,874 --> 00:47:11,326
Actually, us don't want
to finish the war.
939
00:47:11,328 --> 00:47:12,862
It's their game.
940
00:47:12,863 --> 00:47:15,102
It's the game of...
941
00:47:15,103 --> 00:47:17,788
George W. Bush, Obama.
942
00:47:17,790 --> 00:47:21,722
They don't care about the
people who are dying there.
943
00:47:21,726 --> 00:47:24,735
President Obama said the war
is ending in Afghanistan.
944
00:47:24,736 --> 00:47:26,047
Do you see it ending?
945
00:47:27,772 --> 00:47:29,623
Until Americans
leave Afghanistan,
946
00:47:29,628 --> 00:47:32,155
It will be not ending.
947
00:47:32,156 --> 00:47:33,556
Never.
948
00:47:33,563 --> 00:47:34,964
The map of this camp,
949
00:47:34,971 --> 00:47:38,905
It's a map of where
refugees are from.
950
00:47:38,906 --> 00:47:40,661
Most of these countries
have been bombed
951
00:47:40,666 --> 00:47:42,521
By the United States.
952
00:47:42,522 --> 00:47:44,919
Syria, Afghanistan,
953
00:47:44,921 --> 00:47:46,580
Iraq, Sudan.
954
00:47:47,768 --> 00:47:49,782
I didn't think about it,
but that is true.
955
00:47:50,999 --> 00:47:52,466
What's very important to explain
956
00:47:52,471 --> 00:47:54,322
And what's
systematically lacking
957
00:47:54,327 --> 00:47:56,628
In all the accounts
that I had come across
958
00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:58,357
In the mainstream media,
959
00:47:58,357 --> 00:47:59,825
Why is this happening?
960
00:47:59,829 --> 00:48:01,363
Why are these people
where they are?
961
00:48:01,364 --> 00:48:05,171
Why are they suffering
the most inhumane conditions,
962
00:48:05,171 --> 00:48:07,538
The most abject degradation,
963
00:48:07,539 --> 00:48:09,937
And of course, it's very
important to have empathy
964
00:48:09,939 --> 00:48:12,461
And solidarity for the
suffering of these people,
965
00:48:12,466 --> 00:48:14,029
But we can't think
that the suffering
966
00:48:14,033 --> 00:48:15,376
Has fallen out of the sky,
967
00:48:15,377 --> 00:48:17,065
And they're just
particularly benighted
968
00:48:17,072 --> 00:48:20,082
Because they happen to have been
the subject of that, right.
969
00:48:20,083 --> 00:48:22,218
There are policies
that have been enacted.
970
00:48:22,223 --> 00:48:24,141
There are decisions
that have been made.
971
00:48:24,143 --> 00:48:25,774
There are bombs
that have been dropped.
972
00:48:25,775 --> 00:48:28,613
As a consequence of which,
these millions of people
973
00:48:28,622 --> 00:48:30,502
Are destitute in
the way that they are,
974
00:48:30,509 --> 00:48:33,580
And we have to allow
them to tell that story.
975
00:48:33,581 --> 00:48:37,321
Do you think the
Russian, Syrian, french,
976
00:48:37,324 --> 00:48:40,650
British bombing of
Syria will save it?
977
00:48:40,651 --> 00:48:41,994
No, no, no.
978
00:48:41,995 --> 00:48:44,073
It's not the solution.
979
00:48:44,074 --> 00:48:47,718
You can't protect someone
by killing someone else.
980
00:48:54,888 --> 00:48:57,418
In international waters,
in the gulf of tonkin,
981
00:48:57,419 --> 00:48:59,305
Destroyers of the
United States navy
982
00:48:59,305 --> 00:49:02,400
Are assigned routine
patrols from time to time.
983
00:49:02,406 --> 00:49:05,221
Sunday, August the 2nd, 1964,
984
00:49:05,222 --> 00:49:08,032
The destroyer, Maddox,
was on such a patrol.
985
00:49:08,038 --> 00:49:10,943
Shortly after noon,
the calm of the day is broken
986
00:49:10,949 --> 00:49:12,647
As general quarters sound.
987
00:49:14,019 --> 00:49:16,167
In a deliberate
and unprovoked action,
988
00:49:16,168 --> 00:49:19,904
Three north Vietnam pt boats
unleash a torpedo attack
989
00:49:19,907 --> 00:49:21,537
Against the Maddox.
990
00:49:21,538 --> 00:49:23,782
A classic example of
I.F. Stone's ability
991
00:49:23,783 --> 00:49:27,326
To ferret out something
when no one else was doing it
992
00:49:27,329 --> 00:49:31,711
Was the gulf of tonkin excuse
for going into Vietnam.
993
00:50:01,150 --> 00:50:05,782
Three weeks after we had
the so-called attack
994
00:50:05,790 --> 00:50:09,821
By the north Vietnamese,
Izzy read all the after reports,
995
00:50:09,822 --> 00:50:13,274
And he said, "where... where's
the debris if we had been hit?"
996
00:50:13,277 --> 00:50:15,224
Why isn't there more
being talked about?"
997
00:50:15,229 --> 00:50:17,559
And he said there were
all kinds of excuses
998
00:50:17,564 --> 00:50:19,933
Why this little, tiny
country would go against
999
00:50:19,934 --> 00:50:21,495
The largest fleet in the world,
1000
00:50:21,499 --> 00:50:24,985
Except the fact that it
might have been provoked.
1001
00:50:24,986 --> 00:50:28,026
All of the media was just
following it right into war,
1002
00:50:28,027 --> 00:50:30,298
As was congress,
and I keep thinking
1003
00:50:30,299 --> 00:50:33,366
If the mainstream media
had followed Izzy,
1004
00:50:33,369 --> 00:50:35,767
We might not have had
that ten year disaster.
1005
00:50:44,375 --> 00:50:46,965
We hadn't been able to
get it through our heads
1006
00:50:46,966 --> 00:50:49,556
That this is a political war.
1007
00:50:49,558 --> 00:50:50,900
All you have to ask yourself is
1008
00:50:50,901 --> 00:50:54,354
Why is it that here
are Vietnamese
1009
00:50:54,357 --> 00:50:55,824
On one side, on our side,
1010
00:50:55,828 --> 00:50:58,609
And here are the same
Vietnamese on the other side.
1011
00:50:58,611 --> 00:51:00,817
And on one side, they have
very little in the way of arms.
1012
00:51:00,819 --> 00:51:03,924
They have no air force,
no napalm, no big boom-boom,
1013
00:51:03,925 --> 00:51:05,744
And they really
fight magnificently.
1014
00:51:05,745 --> 00:51:08,335
And on our side, you have
five times as many troops,
1015
00:51:08,337 --> 00:51:11,250
All that equipment, all that
firepower, all that artillery,
1016
00:51:11,251 --> 00:51:13,003
And they're not worth a damn.
1017
00:51:13,008 --> 00:51:15,473
A lot of people protested
I.F. Stone's being on,
1018
00:51:15,474 --> 00:51:17,937
Because can you imagine
he had the nerve
1019
00:51:17,938 --> 00:51:21,422
To say things against
our war policy?
1020
00:51:21,423 --> 00:51:22,861
Well, it was bold at the time
1021
00:51:22,862 --> 00:51:26,189
When we were suffering
with all kinds of things.
1022
00:51:26,190 --> 00:51:28,463
Assassinations,
and the Vietnam war,
1023
00:51:28,464 --> 00:51:31,109
A subject on which stone
was quite brilliant,
1024
00:51:31,118 --> 00:51:32,585
And how we got into it
1025
00:51:32,589 --> 00:51:34,603
And how we were probably
never gonna get out of it
1026
00:51:34,605 --> 00:51:36,015
The way we were
going and it was...
1027
00:51:36,016 --> 00:51:38,284
Took guts to say those things.
1028
00:51:38,285 --> 00:51:40,586
The extreme right and
the hate mail writers
1029
00:51:40,588 --> 00:51:42,187
Were always ready to go.
1030
00:51:42,188 --> 00:51:45,132
Ask any solider back from
Vietnam, he'll agree with me.
1031
00:51:45,133 --> 00:51:47,462
I don't mean to say there
aren't brave men among them,
1032
00:51:47,467 --> 00:51:50,281
And some good troops,
but on the whole,
1033
00:51:50,282 --> 00:51:52,421
The men on one side are fighting
1034
00:51:52,426 --> 00:51:54,986
And the men on the other side
don't care and are deserting.
1035
00:51:54,987 --> 00:51:56,232
Why is this?
1036
00:51:56,233 --> 00:51:57,930
Why, because the men
on the other side
1037
00:51:57,931 --> 00:51:59,817
Feel they're
fighting for freedom.
1038
00:51:59,818 --> 00:52:01,351
They're fighting
for freedom from...
1039
00:52:01,352 --> 00:52:04,900
From domination by the white
man, and by the westerner.
1040
00:52:04,903 --> 00:52:07,847
I.F. Stone would be debunking
the official fictions
1041
00:52:07,848 --> 00:52:10,311
As soon as government
was spewing them.
1042
00:52:10,312 --> 00:52:13,283
Whether it was during
the Joe McCarthy era,
1043
00:52:13,286 --> 00:52:16,096
Or all of the lies
about Vietnam.
1044
00:52:16,102 --> 00:52:18,212
You could read
Izzy stone within a week,
1045
00:52:18,213 --> 00:52:20,323
And he was debunking
these fictions.
1046
00:52:21,828 --> 00:52:24,932
We need to know
what governments do.
1047
00:52:24,933 --> 00:52:26,975
We need to know what's real,
1048
00:52:26,980 --> 00:52:29,857
And we need to know
what's bullshit.
1049
00:52:30,881 --> 00:52:32,512
And that's the biggest problem,
1050
00:52:32,514 --> 00:52:36,127
And Izzy was great
1051
00:52:36,128 --> 00:52:38,718
At saying, "hey, I checked."
1052
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:40,762
This is bullshit."
1053
00:52:40,767 --> 00:52:44,094
Just as Izzy wrote and
published I.F. Stone's weekly
1054
00:52:44,095 --> 00:52:46,042
Out of his home with his wife,
1055
00:52:46,047 --> 00:52:48,022
Esther, managing the accounts,
1056
00:52:48,030 --> 00:52:51,709
Tom Engelhardt with his
blog, Tomdispatch. Com,
1057
00:52:51,710 --> 00:52:54,616
Is another example
of how a journalist
1058
00:52:54,622 --> 00:52:57,211
Working from
a small office at home
1059
00:52:57,213 --> 00:52:59,515
Can reach a very wide audience
1060
00:52:59,516 --> 00:53:02,267
With independent
reporting and analysis.
1061
00:53:02,268 --> 00:53:03,677
On how I started Tomdispatch,
1062
00:53:03,678 --> 00:53:06,227
You'd have to go back
to literally to 9/11,
1063
00:53:06,236 --> 00:53:09,046
And our news began
to constrict, you know,
1064
00:53:09,051 --> 00:53:11,389
In a way I hadn't seen, even
at the height of the cold war,
1065
00:53:11,390 --> 00:53:12,787
As far as I was concerned.
1066
00:53:12,794 --> 00:53:15,633
And I suddenly
realized that out there,
1067
00:53:15,642 --> 00:53:17,116
There was another kind of news.
1068
00:53:17,117 --> 00:53:19,031
I started obsessively
gathering this stuff,
1069
00:53:19,033 --> 00:53:21,402
And then, and writing
little comments,
1070
00:53:21,403 --> 00:53:23,731
And my little comments
became a kind of commentary
1071
00:53:23,736 --> 00:53:25,882
And then this was the
miracle of the internet,
1072
00:53:25,883 --> 00:53:27,382
People started jumping on.
1073
00:53:27,383 --> 00:53:29,042
People started writing me and
saying, "can I be on your list?"
1074
00:53:29,047 --> 00:53:30,553
I didn't even really
know I had a list,
1075
00:53:30,554 --> 00:53:32,565
And suddenly, I had
a list of 400 people
1076
00:53:32,567 --> 00:53:35,672
Including journalists and I
mean, Susan Sontag wrote me,
1077
00:53:35,673 --> 00:53:36,821
I mean, out of the blue.
1078
00:53:36,822 --> 00:53:37,839
I didn't know Susan Sontag.
1079
00:53:37,846 --> 00:53:39,342
I'm now almost 71.
1080
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:40,980
I'm plunged into,
I was from the beginning,
1081
00:53:40,981 --> 00:53:43,186
Plunged into a world
of much younger people.
1082
00:53:43,188 --> 00:53:44,752
I had no idea what I was doing,
1083
00:53:44,755 --> 00:53:47,220
But I had been working
as a book editor
1084
00:53:47,221 --> 00:53:48,466
With great writers for years.
1085
00:53:48,467 --> 00:53:50,797
Chalmers Johnson,
all sorts of people.
1086
00:53:50,802 --> 00:53:53,324
And I started asking them
once this thing started,
1087
00:53:53,329 --> 00:53:55,535
I started asking them if
they wanted to, you know,
1088
00:53:55,537 --> 00:53:58,738
Write and it was like this
kind of communal activity,
1089
00:53:58,739 --> 00:54:02,026
And it's turned from that thing
that it was into what it is now,
1090
00:54:02,032 --> 00:54:04,650
Which is my little
intros and then a piece.
1091
00:54:04,656 --> 00:54:06,641
I mean, it could be by me
or by any one of a...
1092
00:54:06,642 --> 00:54:09,391
I think a pretty
striking set of writers.
1093
00:54:20,812 --> 00:54:22,825
The establishment reporters,
without a doubt,
1094
00:54:22,827 --> 00:54:24,716
Know a lot of things
I don't know,
1095
00:54:24,717 --> 00:54:27,074
But a lot of what
they know isn't true.
1096
00:54:27,083 --> 00:54:30,948
He was a fantastic
journalist and the...
1097
00:54:30,953 --> 00:54:32,648
As he himself pointed out,
1098
00:54:32,649 --> 00:54:35,208
The greatest contribution
to his career
1099
00:54:35,209 --> 00:54:36,743
Was his being excluded.
1100
00:54:37,991 --> 00:54:39,333
He didn't have,
as he pointed out,
1101
00:54:39,335 --> 00:54:40,936
He didn't have to waste his time
1102
00:54:40,937 --> 00:54:43,429
Going to press conferences
'cause he wasn't invited,
1103
00:54:43,430 --> 00:54:46,020
So he didn't have to hear
all the deceit and the lies
1104
00:54:46,022 --> 00:54:48,103
And so he didn't have to
waste his time repeating them.
1105
00:54:48,104 --> 00:54:50,758
He could just go
straight to the documents,
1106
00:54:50,759 --> 00:54:53,672
To the historical record,
see what's happening,
1107
00:54:53,673 --> 00:54:55,423
And he did it brilliantly.
1108
00:54:58,818 --> 00:55:00,410
Going in the
white house and going
1109
00:55:00,419 --> 00:55:02,529
And asking questions
of the press secretary,
1110
00:55:02,531 --> 00:55:04,478
It's a job that some
people have to do.
1111
00:55:04,482 --> 00:55:08,001
It's not often that you develop
new information from doing that,
1112
00:55:08,002 --> 00:55:10,687
And it just becomes
a battle of spins.
1113
00:55:10,689 --> 00:55:12,090
I do remember going once
1114
00:55:12,097 --> 00:55:14,944
And Ari Fleischer
was press secretary
1115
00:55:14,945 --> 00:55:18,781
And he kept, just
saying the same thing.
1116
00:55:18,784 --> 00:55:21,143
"No, it's true, it's true."
1117
00:55:21,151 --> 00:55:23,808
I go, "but this report
just came out from wherever"
1118
00:55:23,809 --> 00:55:26,560
And it says that actually
that didn't happen."
1119
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,705
And he goes,
"no, but it did happen."
1120
00:55:28,706 --> 00:55:32,346
And I really felt like I was
talking to a guy who was saying,
1121
00:55:32,349 --> 00:55:33,721
"the sky is green."
1122
00:55:33,725 --> 00:55:35,930
And I would say, "no, no, no,
actually, the sky is blue."
1123
00:55:35,932 --> 00:55:38,771
He goes, "no, no,
the sky is green."
1124
00:55:38,780 --> 00:55:41,944
And you can only do that so
much, and people, you know,
1125
00:55:41,947 --> 00:55:44,412
Who are on that side
will say, damn it is!
1126
00:55:45,529 --> 00:55:47,515
We ask each nation
on the security council
1127
00:55:47,516 --> 00:55:50,554
To weigh the merits that make
a decision about war and peace,
1128
00:55:50,555 --> 00:55:54,263
And if anybody thinks that
there are nations, like Mexico,
1129
00:55:54,264 --> 00:55:57,237
Whose vote could be bought
on the basis of a trade issue
1130
00:55:57,240 --> 00:55:59,962
Or something else like that,
I think you're giving...
1131
00:55:59,963 --> 00:56:02,386
Do a grave injustice
to the independence
1132
00:56:02,391 --> 00:56:04,722
And the judgment of the
leaders of other nations.
1133
00:56:04,726 --> 00:56:06,453
Think about the implications
what you're saying.
1134
00:56:06,454 --> 00:56:09,398
You're saying that the leaders
of other nations are buy-able
1135
00:56:09,399 --> 00:56:11,536
And that is not
an acceptable proposition.
1136
00:56:14,548 --> 00:56:15,574
Thank you.
1137
00:56:28,625 --> 00:56:30,476
Good afternoon, everybody.
1138
00:56:30,482 --> 00:56:33,071
What concerns does
the president have
1139
00:56:33,073 --> 00:56:36,975
About the possibility that
Donald trump could someday
1140
00:56:36,976 --> 00:56:38,990
Be the us commander in chief?
1141
00:56:38,992 --> 00:56:41,102
The president has confidence
1142
00:56:41,104 --> 00:56:43,243
That if Mr. Trump is
the republican nominee,
1143
00:56:43,247 --> 00:56:45,069
He will not win
the general election.
1144
00:56:45,070 --> 00:56:47,430
It's kind of a, you know,
a bit of a kabuki,
1145
00:56:47,438 --> 00:56:51,524
Theatrical production each day,
and so he's here facing,
1146
00:56:51,533 --> 00:56:53,893
I don't know how
many reporters, 70...
1147
00:56:53,901 --> 00:56:55,273
70 reporters or so,
1148
00:56:55,277 --> 00:56:58,603
Who really want to
drive him off message,
1149
00:56:58,604 --> 00:57:01,549
And so he has to come out
and seem more or less
1150
00:57:01,550 --> 00:57:03,945
To be answering questions
without saying anything
1151
00:57:03,947 --> 00:57:05,290
That's gonna make news.
1152
00:57:05,291 --> 00:57:08,456
What is the president
hearing from us allies
1153
00:57:08,459 --> 00:57:11,729
And those who participate
in us military operations
1154
00:57:11,730 --> 00:57:13,257
Alongside Americans?
1155
00:57:13,258 --> 00:57:15,847
I'm not gonna be able to
share any secret details
1156
00:57:15,849 --> 00:57:17,959
Of conversations that
the president has had
1157
00:57:17,961 --> 00:57:19,816
With other world leaders,
1158
00:57:19,817 --> 00:57:22,559
But there are global
consequences for arguments
1159
00:57:22,568 --> 00:57:24,640
That are made by
domestic politicians.
1160
00:57:24,647 --> 00:57:26,661
But I think, you know,
1161
00:57:26,663 --> 00:57:29,406
The white house should
recognize that the media,
1162
00:57:29,415 --> 00:57:32,157
Which represents the public
to some degree, you know,
1163
00:57:32,166 --> 00:57:33,892
Has the right to ask questions
1164
00:57:33,893 --> 00:57:35,811
And that sometimes
they have to answer things
1165
00:57:35,813 --> 00:57:37,377
That aren't really, maybe,
1166
00:57:37,380 --> 00:57:40,037
What they most are interested
in talking about that day.
1167
00:57:46,081 --> 00:57:47,270
Hello?
1168
00:57:48,672 --> 00:57:49,689
Oh, I wouldn't... I mean,
1169
00:57:49,696 --> 00:57:51,423
I thought we already
went over this,
1170
00:57:51,424 --> 00:57:54,243
But you will not be identified
as a source for anything.
1171
00:57:54,244 --> 00:57:58,686
Your name will not, you know,
appear as, you know,
1172
00:57:58,687 --> 00:58:01,373
Being connected
to these documents
1173
00:58:01,375 --> 00:58:05,054
And certainly no quotes
from anything we talked about.
1174
00:58:05,054 --> 00:58:08,957
One of David corn's major
scoops was the 47% video,
1175
00:58:08,958 --> 00:58:12,823
Where you had presidential
candidate, mitt Romney,
1176
00:58:12,829 --> 00:58:15,323
Do a $50,000-a-plate dinner
1177
00:58:15,325 --> 00:58:19,449
Talking about how 47%
of the us public were moochers.
1178
00:58:31,739 --> 00:58:34,555
When this comes out,
thanks to David corn,
1179
00:58:34,556 --> 00:58:37,337
It changes the momentum
of the 2012 race
1180
00:58:37,339 --> 00:58:39,036
Between Romney and Obama.
1181
00:58:50,168 --> 00:58:53,207
The president of the united
states defeats mitt Romney
1182
00:58:53,208 --> 00:58:55,471
In this... at this
time right now,
1183
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:56,880
We have made this projection.
1184
00:58:56,888 --> 00:58:59,511
So, the president
wins this battle.
1185
00:59:04,439 --> 00:59:07,316
When the source
with the 47% video
1186
00:59:07,319 --> 00:59:10,230
Is looking to bring
that to the public,
1187
00:59:10,231 --> 00:59:13,779
He didn't take it
to NBC news or CBS news.
1188
00:59:13,782 --> 00:59:16,055
He takes it to David corn
in mother Jones
1189
00:59:16,056 --> 00:59:18,997
Because he'd seen
the investigative work
1190
00:59:18,997 --> 00:59:22,479
In the previous months that
corn had been doing on Romney.
1191
00:59:26,708 --> 00:59:29,298
Okay, here's the
list of the folks
1192
00:59:29,300 --> 00:59:31,378
Who testified at the trial,
1193
00:59:31,379 --> 00:59:33,421
So they're the ones
we need to find.
1194
00:59:33,426 --> 00:59:34,417
Will do.
1195
00:59:38,065 --> 00:59:39,724
There's new intelligence today
1196
00:59:39,729 --> 00:59:42,568
Indicating Saddam Hussein
has stepped up his efforts
1197
00:59:42,576 --> 00:59:44,239
To obtain nuclear weapons.
1198
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,926
The latest information,
us officials saying
1199
00:59:46,928 --> 00:59:48,846
That over the past 14 months,
1200
00:59:48,848 --> 00:59:53,005
They have seen Saddam Hussein
trying to obtain weapons
1201
00:59:53,006 --> 00:59:56,296
To try and build an atomic bomb.
1202
00:59:56,301 --> 01:00:00,617
It was basically sort
of a feedback loop.
1203
01:00:00,620 --> 01:00:02,595
The administration was out there
1204
01:00:02,603 --> 01:00:04,934
Starting to beat the
drums for war in Iraq.
1205
01:00:04,938 --> 01:00:08,616
The new york times, anxious
to be ahead of the pack,
1206
01:00:08,617 --> 01:00:11,235
And to get the real scoop
1207
01:00:11,241 --> 01:00:13,480
When they found people with...
1208
01:00:13,481 --> 01:00:16,099
Administration officials
who were presenting evidence
1209
01:00:16,105 --> 01:00:17,927
That wasn't that strong,
1210
01:00:17,928 --> 01:00:19,875
But the new york times
went with the story
1211
01:00:19,879 --> 01:00:22,085
And then dick Cheney
cited that story to say,
1212
01:00:22,087 --> 01:00:23,494
"look, the new york times."
1213
01:00:23,495 --> 01:00:25,125
It was already coming
out of the administration.
1214
01:00:25,126 --> 01:00:26,498
He now is trying,
1215
01:00:26,501 --> 01:00:28,573
Through his illicit
procurement network,
1216
01:00:28,581 --> 01:00:32,067
To acquire the
equipment he needs
1217
01:00:32,068 --> 01:00:34,849
To be able to enrich
uranium to make the bombs.
1218
01:00:34,851 --> 01:00:36,318
Specifically aluminum tubes.
1219
01:00:36,322 --> 01:00:38,432
There's a story in
the new york times this morning.
1220
01:00:39,233 --> 01:00:43,069
The lead up to the war in Iraq.
1221
01:00:43,074 --> 01:00:46,334
The particularly egregious
case is the new york times,
1222
01:00:46,337 --> 01:00:49,376
There's no question
about it, because it...
1223
01:00:49,377 --> 01:00:51,774
It ran stories
1224
01:00:51,776 --> 01:00:55,353
Contrary to the truth.
1225
01:00:55,359 --> 01:00:59,128
It ran stories that the sources
1226
01:00:59,135 --> 01:01:01,021
Had planted information
1227
01:01:01,022 --> 01:01:04,983
That should have been checked
out and the sources were...
1228
01:01:04,989 --> 01:01:06,773
Were questionable to begin with
1229
01:01:06,780 --> 01:01:09,082
In terms of their
own objectives,
1230
01:01:09,084 --> 01:01:11,539
So the times is
a particular case
1231
01:01:11,548 --> 01:01:14,137
Of particularly great failing.
1232
01:01:14,139 --> 01:01:15,673
There's nothing
like experiencing
1233
01:01:15,674 --> 01:01:17,688
The world's finest journalism
1234
01:01:17,690 --> 01:01:19,484
In its original form.
1235
01:01:20,856 --> 01:01:22,362
And I want to
attribute the times,
1236
01:01:22,363 --> 01:01:24,212
I don't want to
talk about, obviously,
1237
01:01:24,217 --> 01:01:26,068
Specific intelligence sources,
1238
01:01:26,072 --> 01:01:29,303
But it's now public,
that in fact,
1239
01:01:29,304 --> 01:01:32,249
He has been seeking to
acquire the kinds of tubes
1240
01:01:32,250 --> 01:01:34,549
That are necessary
to build a centrifuge.
1241
01:01:36,022 --> 01:01:37,739
I remember, particularly,
1242
01:01:37,750 --> 01:01:40,656
Watching Cheney
on meet the press.
1243
01:01:42,739 --> 01:01:45,165
And throwing out this stuff,
1244
01:01:45,171 --> 01:01:47,952
And saying to my wife, saying,
1245
01:01:47,954 --> 01:01:49,201
"this is bullshit.
1246
01:01:49,202 --> 01:01:50,928
There's something
missing here."
1247
01:01:50,929 --> 01:01:54,122
There will always
be some uncertainty
1248
01:01:54,128 --> 01:01:57,072
About how quickly he can
acquire nuclear weapons,
1249
01:01:57,073 --> 01:02:00,303
But we don't want the smoking
gun to be a mushroom cloud.
1250
01:02:01,453 --> 01:02:02,930
Two days, I think it was,
1251
01:02:02,931 --> 01:02:05,927
Before the war was
launched in March 2003.
1252
01:02:05,933 --> 01:02:08,556
The Washington post
had a great story
1253
01:02:08,557 --> 01:02:10,063
And the headline
was something like,
1254
01:02:10,064 --> 01:02:13,579
"much of the bush
administration's case for war
1255
01:02:13,580 --> 01:02:17,291
Is inaccurate or
wrong, experts say."
1256
01:02:17,292 --> 01:02:20,619
And it was on page a19,
it was, you know, inside,
1257
01:02:20,620 --> 01:02:24,043
And the question that
I've had since that point
1258
01:02:24,043 --> 01:02:26,949
Is under what definition of news
1259
01:02:26,955 --> 01:02:29,866
Is that not a front page story?
1260
01:02:29,867 --> 01:02:32,293
That experts say
administration's case for war
1261
01:02:32,298 --> 01:02:33,672
Is wrong.
1262
01:02:52,072 --> 01:02:53,351
Two trumps.
1263
01:02:53,352 --> 01:02:54,886
- Yeah, two trumps.
- And I added a line.
1264
01:02:58,437 --> 01:03:00,671
Yes, Lisa, this is the order,
1265
01:03:00,677 --> 01:03:02,528
And what's circled
and not circled.
1266
01:03:02,533 --> 01:03:05,218
I think that on the
Lloyd Blankfein one,
1267
01:03:05,220 --> 01:03:08,066
I would end on
my tsunami analogy.
1268
01:03:08,067 --> 01:03:09,573
"And it's about to
crash on their head."
1269
01:03:09,574 --> 01:03:10,655
On their heads, yes.
1270
01:03:10,659 --> 01:03:12,193
Okay.
1271
01:03:12,194 --> 01:03:13,957
I.F. Stone was onto
something really smart
1272
01:03:13,958 --> 01:03:15,650
With the subscription business.
1273
01:03:15,651 --> 01:03:17,951
What a lot of people miss
about that business model,
1274
01:03:17,953 --> 01:03:19,871
Which in general was
a smart business model,
1275
01:03:19,873 --> 01:03:23,009
It puts your financial
incentives in the right place.
1276
01:03:23,010 --> 01:03:26,106
If your financial incentives
are to please advertisers,
1277
01:03:26,112 --> 01:03:28,279
You will please
advertisers, right.
1278
01:03:28,287 --> 01:03:31,068
But in the long run,
you want to incentivize yourself
1279
01:03:31,070 --> 01:03:33,084
To be aligned
with your audience.
1280
01:03:33,086 --> 01:03:34,333
The way you're aligned
with your audience
1281
01:03:34,334 --> 01:03:36,605
Is if your audience
is paying you.
1282
01:03:36,605 --> 01:03:38,552
So, if you go in
the wrong direction,
1283
01:03:38,557 --> 01:03:41,212
They punish you
by saying, "I'm leaving"
1284
01:03:41,213 --> 01:03:43,676
And I'm not paying you
the subscription anymore."
1285
01:03:43,676 --> 01:03:45,403
That was true of I.F. Stone
with his newsletter,
1286
01:03:45,404 --> 01:03:46,871
It's true of our show
1287
01:03:46,875 --> 01:03:49,397
Because we have a subscription
model on our website.
1288
01:03:55,385 --> 01:03:57,016
Now, you can't get
carried away with it,
1289
01:03:57,017 --> 01:03:59,002
Because sometimes you have
to act out of principle,
1290
01:03:59,003 --> 01:04:00,851
Even if it loses
you subscribers.
1291
01:04:00,856 --> 01:04:03,194
For example, after
president Obama was elected,
1292
01:04:03,195 --> 01:04:04,600
I began to criticize him
1293
01:04:04,601 --> 01:04:06,421
For some of the things
that I realized, whoa,
1294
01:04:06,422 --> 01:04:07,793
Well, that's not
a progressive position,
1295
01:04:07,797 --> 01:04:09,656
And that's not
a progressive position.
1296
01:04:09,657 --> 01:04:11,696
And in the beginning we
lost a lot of subscribers
1297
01:04:11,701 --> 01:04:13,590
'cause people said,
"whoa, no, wait a minute now."
1298
01:04:13,591 --> 01:04:15,476
We worked hard to get
president Obama elected.
1299
01:04:15,477 --> 01:04:17,451
"You seem like you're being
disrespectful to him."
1300
01:04:17,459 --> 01:04:19,185
Well, there you got
to stand on principle
1301
01:04:19,186 --> 01:04:21,679
And we survived that and
then those guys came back,
1302
01:04:21,681 --> 01:04:24,300
And even more came back
when they realized,
1303
01:04:24,305 --> 01:04:25,705
"oh damn, you were right."
1304
01:04:25,713 --> 01:04:28,720
Hillary Clinton is tired
1305
01:04:28,721 --> 01:04:31,435
Of the Bernie sanders
camp's lies, she says.
1306
01:04:31,441 --> 01:04:33,004
In fact, here, let me show you.
1307
01:04:33,008 --> 01:04:34,158
This is when
she had a run-in
1308
01:04:34,159 --> 01:04:35,568
With a Greenpeace activist.
1309
01:04:35,569 --> 01:04:37,389
Can we talk about
climate change?
1310
01:04:49,900 --> 01:04:52,748
When people make
these kinds of claims,
1311
01:04:52,749 --> 01:04:54,829
Which now I think
have been debunked,
1312
01:04:54,830 --> 01:04:57,388
Actually the Washington post
said three Pinocchios.
1313
01:04:57,389 --> 01:04:59,430
The new york times
also analyzed it.
1314
01:04:59,435 --> 01:05:01,602
She says that,
"oh no, it's debunked."
1315
01:05:01,610 --> 01:05:03,594
Okay, great, I'll go
to the source itself
1316
01:05:03,595 --> 01:05:05,386
That quote, unquote,
"debunked" the story.
1317
01:05:05,387 --> 01:05:06,373
Washington post.
1318
01:05:15,462 --> 01:05:19,231
So, that adds up to all the
donations to Hillary Clinton,
1319
01:05:19,238 --> 01:05:20,935
Up to more than
$4.5 million,
1320
01:05:20,936 --> 01:05:22,247
So they acknowledge it.
1321
01:05:22,248 --> 01:05:24,068
They acknowledge it,
right there, right?
1322
01:05:24,069 --> 01:05:25,574
But it's still only two percent
1323
01:05:25,575 --> 01:05:27,520
Of the total contributions
received by Clinton
1324
01:05:27,524 --> 01:05:29,251
And outside groups backing her.
1325
01:05:29,252 --> 01:05:31,707
Now, that's true, but think
about that for a second.
1326
01:05:31,715 --> 01:05:33,862
Their excuse for her
is, "yeah, I know",
1327
01:05:33,863 --> 01:05:36,256
She took four and a half million
bucks from the oil guys,
1328
01:05:36,258 --> 01:05:39,297
But she's taking so much
more from the others.
1329
01:05:39,298 --> 01:05:41,820
The bribes that the oil
and gas companies gave her
1330
01:05:41,825 --> 01:05:44,155
"Are small compared to
what the banks gave her."
1331
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:45,471
See, not guilty.
1332
01:05:45,472 --> 01:05:47,994
Bernie sanders is a liar.
1333
01:05:47,999 --> 01:05:49,887
So, Elizabeth warren,
that's an interview...
1334
01:05:49,888 --> 01:05:51,776
I don't think there
is even video of that.
1335
01:05:51,777 --> 01:05:53,308
I think it's IB times.
1336
01:05:53,309 --> 01:05:57,529
But we do have the panel on
morning Joe and on Hannity.
1337
01:05:57,533 --> 01:05:59,131
And also Geraldo?
1338
01:05:59,132 --> 01:06:02,048
After the meeting, we had
a few videos that we're doing
1339
01:06:02,049 --> 01:06:06,101
And to just basically get a good
round... round out the stories.
1340
01:06:06,107 --> 01:06:09,692
Three years later, some senator
says, "I never said that."
1341
01:06:09,693 --> 01:06:11,637
Even if you can't find
it somewhere online,
1342
01:06:11,642 --> 01:06:12,534
I still have it.
1343
01:06:12,538 --> 01:06:14,005
So, I don't get rid of anything.
1344
01:06:14,009 --> 01:06:15,801
So, we have tons
and tons of things
1345
01:06:15,802 --> 01:06:18,714
That I just have saved of
what everyone has said ever
1346
01:06:18,715 --> 01:06:19,700
That we've ever done.
1347
01:06:19,704 --> 01:06:21,075
There's a lot, yeah.
1348
01:06:21,079 --> 01:06:23,630
I don't envy the guy
who has to cut it all.
1349
01:06:23,639 --> 01:06:25,710
I could toss you
a couple raw videos.
1350
01:06:25,718 --> 01:06:26,965
You can cut those down.
1351
01:06:26,966 --> 01:06:28,662
Yeah, by me,
you mean Arthur, right?
1352
01:06:28,663 --> 01:06:29,841
Good luck with that.
1353
01:06:29,845 --> 01:06:31,859
- Okay, thank you.
- All right, man.
1354
01:06:31,861 --> 01:06:35,313
I'm amused at people who claim
that the governments don't lie.
1355
01:06:35,316 --> 01:06:37,942
Really, do you know
human beings that never lie?
1356
01:06:37,943 --> 01:06:40,558
Let alone human beings
who need to cover their ass
1357
01:06:40,564 --> 01:06:41,877
And protect their job?
1358
01:06:41,878 --> 01:06:45,079
Let alone people who need
to do all that in public?
1359
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,243
Of course, they lie!
1360
01:06:47,250 --> 01:06:48,679
Of course they do.
1361
01:06:48,690 --> 01:06:51,183
When is the last time
you heard CNN say
1362
01:06:51,185 --> 01:06:53,007
The pentagon is lying?
1363
01:06:53,008 --> 01:06:56,298
Isn't it amazing that in these
decades of CNN's existence,
1364
01:06:56,304 --> 01:06:57,733
They have never
uttered that sentence.
1365
01:06:57,743 --> 01:07:00,966
So the pentagon has never
lied, according to CNN.
1366
01:07:06,189 --> 01:07:08,875
Congressman, but overall,
I'm a deficit hawk too.
1367
01:07:08,877 --> 01:07:10,536
I don't want out
of control spending,
1368
01:07:10,541 --> 01:07:12,171
So then I assume
as a deficit hawk,
1369
01:07:12,172 --> 01:07:14,119
You also want to cut
defense spending
1370
01:07:14,124 --> 01:07:17,193
And you want to raise
taxes on the rich, right?
1371
01:07:17,195 --> 01:07:19,564
Well, I think the first
purpose of this government
1372
01:07:19,565 --> 01:07:20,772
Is to defend the nation,
1373
01:07:20,778 --> 01:07:22,275
And if we cut defense
to the extent
1374
01:07:22,282 --> 01:07:23,721
That we're no longer safe,
1375
01:07:23,722 --> 01:07:25,513
Let me suggest to you,
there's nothing that would have
1376
01:07:25,514 --> 01:07:26,952
A more negative impact
on our economy.
1377
01:07:26,953 --> 01:07:28,554
Nineteen percent of the deficit
1378
01:07:28,555 --> 01:07:31,015
Is defense spending,
1379
01:07:31,016 --> 01:07:32,579
And we've spent more on defense
1380
01:07:32,583 --> 01:07:35,269
Than the entire rest
of the world combined,
1381
01:07:35,270 --> 01:07:38,176
But you still think we cannot
cut a nickel from there.
1382
01:07:38,182 --> 01:07:41,765
We need every nuke, every sub,
every aircraft carrier,
1383
01:07:41,766 --> 01:07:44,068
Otherwise we're not gonna
be able to out-nuke Iran,
1384
01:07:44,070 --> 01:07:45,508
Is that the logic?
1385
01:07:45,509 --> 01:07:47,427
When Cenk was first
working at MSNBC,
1386
01:07:47,429 --> 01:07:48,999
I just assumed
he was on cloud nine,
1387
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,614
Because he wanted it so bad
and then there was this one week
1388
01:07:51,620 --> 01:07:54,401
Where they flew me into new york
1389
01:07:54,403 --> 01:07:57,376
And I helped them produce
the television show.
1390
01:07:57,379 --> 01:07:59,652
Right then and there,
I knew it wasn't right for us,
1391
01:07:59,653 --> 01:08:00,994
But I didn't say anything.
1392
01:08:00,995 --> 01:08:02,654
I just kinda like,
sat back and waited to see
1393
01:08:02,659 --> 01:08:05,699
If Cenk was gonna do what
I thought he was gonna do.
1394
01:08:05,700 --> 01:08:08,516
Phil griffin, who's the head of
MSNBC, pulls me into his office.
1395
01:08:08,517 --> 01:08:09,760
He sits me down and he says,
1396
01:08:09,761 --> 01:08:12,639
"Cenk, I was just in Washington,
1397
01:08:12,641 --> 01:08:14,722
And they're not happy
with your tone."
1398
01:08:14,723 --> 01:08:18,239
And I sat back in my seat, like,
"oh my god, it's happening."
1399
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:19,679
Right, this is like a movie!
1400
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,406
They're... they're
giving me this speech.
1401
01:08:21,407 --> 01:08:24,638
You know, some people
told me that you were dumb.
1402
01:08:24,639 --> 01:08:26,174
I think you're smart.
1403
01:08:26,174 --> 01:08:28,093
In fact, I think you're
smart enough to understand
1404
01:08:28,094 --> 01:08:29,917
A situation when
it's explained to you.
1405
01:08:29,918 --> 01:08:32,948
And he said, "look, I want to
be clear with you about this",
1406
01:08:32,957 --> 01:08:34,395
So just cool it.
1407
01:08:34,396 --> 01:08:35,643
"Bring it down
a little bit."
1408
01:08:35,644 --> 01:08:37,274
Now, if I felt that you had
1409
01:08:37,275 --> 01:08:38,589
The welfare of
the state at heart,
1410
01:08:38,590 --> 01:08:42,289
Like I have, I'd say
you were a man to watch.
1411
01:08:42,298 --> 01:08:44,120
So, they would say things like,
1412
01:08:44,121 --> 01:08:46,423
"we need you to act
like a senator."
1413
01:08:46,425 --> 01:08:47,671
And I thought, "why?"
1414
01:08:47,672 --> 01:08:48,919
Why on good god's green earth
1415
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:50,138
"Would you want to act
like a senator?"
1416
01:08:50,139 --> 01:08:51,670
Does that mean
I should lie more?
1417
01:08:51,671 --> 01:08:53,397
I should be more fake?
1418
01:08:53,398 --> 01:08:54,932
People don't like senators.
1419
01:08:54,933 --> 01:08:57,264
Congress, at that point,
is at an approval rating
1420
01:08:57,268 --> 01:08:59,887
Floating between
7 and 11 percent.
1421
01:08:59,892 --> 01:09:01,491
They hate senators!
1422
01:09:08,244 --> 01:09:09,874
They don't have
to tell an anchor
1423
01:09:09,875 --> 01:09:11,763
Coming into the
mainstream media,
1424
01:09:11,764 --> 01:09:13,265
"hey, be pro-government."
1425
01:09:13,266 --> 01:09:15,213
Although with me, I was so
thick-headed they had to.
1426
01:09:15,218 --> 01:09:16,369
Right.
1427
01:09:16,370 --> 01:09:17,777
They just don't hire that guy,
1428
01:09:17,778 --> 01:09:19,408
And if they make the
mistake of hiring him,
1429
01:09:19,409 --> 01:09:21,039
They demote him
or they fire him,
1430
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,862
And then the message
is clear in the building.
1431
01:09:22,863 --> 01:09:26,382
"Shh, we don't criticize
the powers that be."
1432
01:09:26,383 --> 01:09:28,301
We don't criticize corporations.
1433
01:09:28,303 --> 01:09:30,125
We are a giant corporation.
1434
01:09:30,126 --> 01:09:32,390
We don't take on
the establishment,
1435
01:09:32,398 --> 01:09:33,865
"We are the
establishment."
1436
01:09:33,869 --> 01:09:35,979
And the guys who play
ball get promotions
1437
01:09:35,981 --> 01:09:39,308
And everyone in the building
sees them getting promotions.
1438
01:09:39,309 --> 01:09:41,739
So, it is
an evolutionary process
1439
01:09:41,740 --> 01:09:44,809
By which the mainstream media
gets the product that it wants.
1440
01:09:45,994 --> 01:09:49,158
I think what happened
to Cenk Uygur at MSNBC
1441
01:09:49,162 --> 01:09:50,601
Illuminates the process
1442
01:09:50,602 --> 01:09:54,025
Leading to what
Noam Chomsky calls,
1443
01:09:54,025 --> 01:09:56,289
"manufacturing consent."
1444
01:09:56,297 --> 01:09:58,340
Corporate news outlets
often end up
1445
01:09:58,345 --> 01:10:01,448
Being more propagandistic
than journalistic.
1446
01:10:01,448 --> 01:10:04,901
Manufactured consent
makes sure that the ignorant
1447
01:10:04,904 --> 01:10:08,385
And meddlesome majority
keeps out of things.
1448
01:10:08,391 --> 01:10:10,721
So, if they want...
1449
01:10:10,726 --> 01:10:13,575
For decades they've wanted
national healthcare,
1450
01:10:13,576 --> 01:10:16,230
But they don't understand,
so keep them out of it.
1451
01:10:16,231 --> 01:10:18,147
They want higher
taxes on the rich,
1452
01:10:18,149 --> 01:10:19,396
Then you know,
put them to the side.
1453
01:10:19,397 --> 01:10:20,768
They don't understand things.
1454
01:10:20,772 --> 01:10:22,498
They're opposed to wars,
1455
01:10:22,499 --> 01:10:24,609
It's 'cause they don't
understand how important it is
1456
01:10:24,611 --> 01:10:27,488
For us to bomb Libya
and whatever it may be.
1457
01:10:27,491 --> 01:10:29,446
It used to be in earlier times
1458
01:10:29,447 --> 01:10:31,649
That you could use
force to do this,
1459
01:10:31,651 --> 01:10:35,132
But by the early 20th century,
1460
01:10:35,138 --> 01:10:37,056
Countries like England
and the United States,
1461
01:10:37,058 --> 01:10:38,880
The more free societies,
1462
01:10:38,881 --> 01:10:42,333
It was recognized that force
was no longer sufficient,
1463
01:10:42,336 --> 01:10:45,280
So you had to turn the control
of attitudes and opinions.
1464
01:10:45,281 --> 01:10:47,006
It's quite conscious
incidentally.
1465
01:10:47,007 --> 01:10:48,733
I think manufacturing consent
1466
01:10:48,734 --> 01:10:50,268
Is essentially the Rosetta stone
1467
01:10:50,269 --> 01:10:52,830
For understanding the
hieroglyphics of the us media.
1468
01:10:54,716 --> 01:10:56,921
It is the case that if you go
1469
01:10:56,924 --> 01:11:00,155
To most media figures
1470
01:11:00,156 --> 01:11:03,225
And/or to media corporations and
tell them that they're really...
1471
01:11:03,228 --> 01:11:05,204
Constrain them of things
they can and can't say,
1472
01:11:05,211 --> 01:11:06,746
And not only will they deny it,
1473
01:11:06,747 --> 01:11:09,913
But they'll essentially
be truthful in their denial,
1474
01:11:09,914 --> 01:11:11,449
In the sense that
they believe that denial,
1475
01:11:11,450 --> 01:11:13,943
Because they don't have someone
standing over their shoulder
1476
01:11:13,945 --> 01:11:15,928
Deleting words that they write
1477
01:11:15,929 --> 01:11:18,067
Or compelling them to say things
they don't want to say,
1478
01:11:18,072 --> 01:11:20,824
But the entire system
breeds a certain orthodox.
1479
01:11:20,825 --> 01:11:23,797
It breeds a certain
kind of range of pie-ties
1480
01:11:23,799 --> 01:11:27,214
And if you deviate too far
from them, it will reject you.
1481
01:11:28,245 --> 01:11:30,450
So, yes, you're perfectly free
1482
01:11:30,453 --> 01:11:31,796
Once you accept the...
1483
01:11:31,797 --> 01:11:34,164
You internally
accept the principles
1484
01:11:34,165 --> 01:11:37,042
And you feel under
no pressure in censorship.
1485
01:11:37,045 --> 01:11:38,704
You can say anything you want
1486
01:11:38,709 --> 01:11:41,490
As long as you accept
the concept of objectivity.
1487
01:11:42,995 --> 01:11:45,104
Ninety-nine percent of the
people who work in the business
1488
01:11:45,107 --> 01:11:48,502
Just think they're doing their
jobs and they don't realize
1489
01:11:48,503 --> 01:11:52,814
That they're creating
this kinda endless,
1490
01:11:52,817 --> 01:11:54,580
You know, minefield of stupidity
1491
01:11:54,581 --> 01:11:57,070
That it's gonna be impossible
for us to all breach
1492
01:11:57,072 --> 01:11:58,962
When the time comes, you know.
1493
01:11:58,963 --> 01:12:03,592
Those reporters who
care more about truth
1494
01:12:03,599 --> 01:12:06,701
Will eventually become
management problems,
1495
01:12:06,702 --> 01:12:09,128
And the ones who can read power,
1496
01:12:09,133 --> 01:12:11,272
In essence,
function as courtiers,
1497
01:12:11,277 --> 01:12:14,566
Know how to play the game.
1498
01:12:14,572 --> 01:12:17,986
The veneer of
objectivity, neutrality,
1499
01:12:17,996 --> 01:12:21,410
Impartiality, truth, and yet,
1500
01:12:21,419 --> 01:12:24,104
Assiduously serve,
1501
01:12:24,106 --> 01:12:26,945
In essence, power,
1502
01:12:26,953 --> 01:12:30,051
Are the ones who rise
within the institution,
1503
01:12:30,057 --> 01:12:34,791
And that's why if you
look at the top management
1504
01:12:34,792 --> 01:12:37,478
Of even institutions
like the new york times,
1505
01:12:37,480 --> 01:12:40,357
They're filled with such
incredible mediocrities.
1506
01:12:41,381 --> 01:12:43,462
They can do exactly
what they want,
1507
01:12:43,463 --> 01:12:45,983
But they wouldn't
be in that position
1508
01:12:45,988 --> 01:12:48,865
Unless they already
accepted the framework.
1509
01:12:49,826 --> 01:12:51,744
I.F. Stone is
a perfect example.
1510
01:12:51,747 --> 01:12:54,596
He's a terrific reporter,
maybe one of the best,
1511
01:12:54,597 --> 01:12:57,568
But he didn't accept the rules,
so he was out of the system.
1512
01:12:57,571 --> 01:12:59,776
Same with innumerable others.
1513
01:12:59,778 --> 01:13:04,480
Jeremy Scahill, Glenn Greenwald,
Amy Goodman, even Matt Taibbi.
1514
01:13:21,055 --> 01:13:24,574
From my reporting, these are all
1515
01:13:24,576 --> 01:13:26,466
The autopsies that were ordered.
1516
01:13:26,466 --> 01:13:29,437
Is this a scientific
autopsy report from...
1517
01:13:29,440 --> 01:13:31,099
You're laughing.
1518
01:13:31,103 --> 01:13:35,640
This doesn't look like a report
that my students would do.
1519
01:13:35,646 --> 01:13:37,821
The report doesn't
look like a...
1520
01:13:37,822 --> 01:13:39,708
That even your
students would do, okay.
1521
01:13:39,709 --> 01:13:40,917
You know,
I'm sort of getting at,
1522
01:13:40,924 --> 01:13:42,324
Whether or not there
was some sort of a scam
1523
01:13:42,332 --> 01:13:43,453
With the autopsies.
1524
01:13:43,454 --> 01:13:45,177
All these reports are missing.
1525
01:13:45,178 --> 01:13:47,354
Oh, those are the
missing ones, oh, okay.
1526
01:13:47,355 --> 01:13:49,463
So, over 30% of the
autopsies ordered.
1527
01:13:49,465 --> 01:13:50,970
You don't even have
a lab report for.
1528
01:13:50,971 --> 01:13:53,491
We don't even know if
they were ever performed.
1529
01:13:53,496 --> 01:13:54,292
They were billed.
1530
01:13:54,296 --> 01:13:55,610
I have the canceled checks.
1531
01:13:55,611 --> 01:13:57,104
Oh.
1532
01:13:57,112 --> 01:13:58,867
I just don't have if
the autopsy was performed,
1533
01:13:58,872 --> 01:14:00,051
What they found.
1534
01:14:11,957 --> 01:14:14,996
You get appointed to the board
of one of these commissions,
1535
01:14:14,997 --> 01:14:17,682
Essentially in Texas, by being
a large campaign contributor.
1536
01:14:17,684 --> 01:14:21,098
This is all an expose
of this mass grave.
1537
01:14:22,066 --> 01:14:25,384
Make these people own this shit.
1538
01:14:25,394 --> 01:14:26,794
Make 'em own it,
1539
01:14:26,802 --> 01:14:29,199
Because this is what
is existing in this state
1540
01:14:29,201 --> 01:14:31,695
And it's those people
over at the capital,
1541
01:14:31,697 --> 01:14:34,027
But it's also people who just
go about their daily lives
1542
01:14:34,032 --> 01:14:35,087
And let it happen.
1543
01:14:47,215 --> 01:14:49,708
He had to answer questions
for weeks about this.
1544
01:14:49,710 --> 01:14:52,137
He also was pulled in
by some high ranking
1545
01:14:52,141 --> 01:14:55,460
Local officials in the state and
asked very similar questions,
1546
01:14:55,469 --> 01:14:56,802
So he's had time to prep.
1547
01:14:56,813 --> 01:14:59,690
Basically, what happened
is nueces county
1548
01:14:59,693 --> 01:15:02,570
Was providing autopsy
services for brooks county,
1549
01:15:02,573 --> 01:15:06,409
And they were overwhelmed
with nueces county alone.
1550
01:15:06,413 --> 01:15:08,197
Course I wasn't around when
all of this was being done,
1551
01:15:08,204 --> 01:15:10,794
You know, we kind of picked
up after the fact, you know.
1552
01:15:10,796 --> 01:15:12,675
Some of them were done
1553
01:15:12,683 --> 01:15:14,697
During the time of
your tenure here too.
1554
01:15:14,699 --> 01:15:16,454
Some of them were after 2007.
1555
01:15:16,459 --> 01:15:17,418
Oh, yeah, yeah.
1556
01:15:17,419 --> 01:15:18,790
So, I'm just wondering
1557
01:15:18,794 --> 01:15:20,482
Is that the mortuary
who's dumping bodies?
1558
01:15:20,490 --> 01:15:21,832
Actually, well, we had...
1559
01:15:21,833 --> 01:15:23,550
In other words,
who monitors the mortuary?
1560
01:15:23,561 --> 01:15:25,344
They're an independent
contractor,
1561
01:15:25,352 --> 01:15:26,503
So in other words,
1562
01:15:26,504 --> 01:15:28,738
You contract somebody to do it,
1563
01:15:28,743 --> 01:15:31,112
You pay 'em 750 bucks
and they go do the job.
1564
01:15:31,113 --> 01:15:32,578
All we know is we're gonna pay
1565
01:15:32,582 --> 01:15:35,301
For four...
$500, $500, $500...
1566
01:15:35,302 --> 01:15:36,290
And it's gonna say,
1567
01:15:36,294 --> 01:15:37,828
"one was Eddie Canalis,
he was identified."
1568
01:15:37,829 --> 01:15:39,460
This gentlemen was john doe.
1569
01:15:39,461 --> 01:15:41,120
"The other one was
another john doe."
1570
01:15:41,124 --> 01:15:43,330
In a case where
I was not comfortable
1571
01:15:43,332 --> 01:15:45,699
With cause of death, DNA and...
1572
01:15:45,700 --> 01:15:48,355
That's the criteria where
you saw something suspicious.
1573
01:15:48,356 --> 01:15:49,957
What if you found just bones
or a skull or something?
1574
01:15:49,958 --> 01:15:51,739
It's... it's difficult.
You can't do that.
1575
01:15:51,747 --> 01:15:53,051
It would be a waste of time.
1576
01:15:53,059 --> 01:15:54,401
You would not order an autopsy
1577
01:15:54,402 --> 01:15:55,994
If it was just a skull or bones.
1578
01:15:56,002 --> 01:15:57,986
Once the sun,
108, 107 degrees...
1579
01:15:57,987 --> 01:16:00,258
So, a sun bleached skull
or something, no?
1580
01:16:00,259 --> 01:16:01,629
No, no, they wouldn't.
1581
01:16:03,103 --> 01:16:04,215
You don't have a problem
1582
01:16:04,223 --> 01:16:06,036
Until somebody makes
a problem out of it.
1583
01:16:07,454 --> 01:16:09,660
The documents I have
and the evidence I have,
1584
01:16:09,662 --> 01:16:11,446
I asked him directly
about those things
1585
01:16:11,453 --> 01:16:12,735
And he lied through his teeth
1586
01:16:12,736 --> 01:16:14,612
Through every
single one of them.
1587
01:16:14,620 --> 01:16:17,018
So, the way the bodies
were buried, the mortuaries,
1588
01:16:17,019 --> 01:16:19,829
The contracts,
everything, he's just...
1589
01:16:19,835 --> 01:16:21,370
Just bullshitting
me the whole way.
1590
01:16:22,874 --> 01:16:24,601
In my investigation
prior to speaking to him,
1591
01:16:24,602 --> 01:16:26,875
I have found nothing but
discrepancies in the paperwork
1592
01:16:26,876 --> 01:16:29,722
And the documents in the
way that records were kept,
1593
01:16:29,723 --> 01:16:32,023
And he basically,
without knowing he did,
1594
01:16:32,025 --> 01:16:33,751
Admitted it all to me,
1595
01:16:33,752 --> 01:16:36,821
And I'm actually just shaking
a little bit from it.
1596
01:16:50,071 --> 01:16:52,536
The only way I'm able to
do the investigative work
1597
01:16:52,537 --> 01:16:54,711
Before we even bring it
to a broadcast outlet,
1598
01:16:54,712 --> 01:16:56,436
Before we bring it to
the mainstream media,
1599
01:16:56,437 --> 01:16:58,288
Is because I actually
get paid every month
1600
01:16:58,293 --> 01:16:59,415
By the nation institute.
1601
01:16:59,416 --> 01:17:01,138
I have a monthly stipend,
1602
01:17:01,139 --> 01:17:02,902
An investigative
stipend that allows me
1603
01:17:02,903 --> 01:17:04,395
To put all these pieces together
1604
01:17:04,403 --> 01:17:06,187
And I can spend
months on a story.
1605
01:17:06,194 --> 01:17:07,891
I can spend a year on a story
1606
01:17:07,892 --> 01:17:10,067
Before I even bring it
to a broadcast outlet.
1607
01:17:11,247 --> 01:17:12,815
If the medical examiner
1608
01:17:12,816 --> 01:17:16,556
Or the forensic person in
brooks county examined bones,
1609
01:17:16,559 --> 01:17:19,752
He charged one flat fee, $1500,
1610
01:17:19,758 --> 01:17:21,513
And there were
many bones examined.
1611
01:17:21,518 --> 01:17:24,174
They might as well have been an
eight-year-old who wrote them.
1612
01:17:24,175 --> 01:17:25,708
"I saw a man
lying on the ground,"
1613
01:17:25,709 --> 01:17:26,984
His bones were scattered.
1614
01:17:26,988 --> 01:17:29,443
They looked okay to me,"
is basically a report.
1615
01:17:29,452 --> 01:17:31,147
Fifteen hundred bucks.
1616
01:17:31,148 --> 01:17:35,626
He was judge for eight
years from 2007 to 2014.
1617
01:17:37,129 --> 01:17:38,855
That's when all the
bodies were buried.
1618
01:17:38,857 --> 01:17:41,706
We... we know that brooks county
is under-resourced
1619
01:17:41,707 --> 01:17:44,611
And their record
keeping isn't great,
1620
01:17:44,616 --> 01:17:47,493
And so let's just take that
at face value for now.
1621
01:17:47,496 --> 01:17:49,031
I don't think it's so much that.
1622
01:17:49,032 --> 01:17:50,442
I think there's
something going on here.
1623
01:17:50,443 --> 01:17:51,495
Obviously.
1624
01:17:53,319 --> 01:17:57,001
I think about I.F. Stone a lot
and I think about his phrase,
1625
01:17:57,002 --> 01:17:58,562
"all governments lie."
1626
01:17:58,566 --> 01:18:00,225
And I also think about the fact
1627
01:18:00,230 --> 01:18:02,244
That most of his
reporting was done
1628
01:18:02,245 --> 01:18:04,614
Putting his face in
a stack of documents.
1629
01:18:05,475 --> 01:18:06,847
It wasn't flashy.
1630
01:18:06,852 --> 01:18:10,242
He found the fact
that governments lie
1631
01:18:10,243 --> 01:18:13,273
Basically by what
governments do.
1632
01:18:13,282 --> 01:18:15,133
They're bad at
covering up their lies.
1633
01:18:15,138 --> 01:18:16,451
I can take you to where I work
1634
01:18:16,452 --> 01:18:18,080
And I can show you
stack after stack
1635
01:18:18,081 --> 01:18:19,424
After stack of documents
1636
01:18:19,425 --> 01:18:21,889
And I find, in our own
government documents,
1637
01:18:21,890 --> 01:18:23,519
Nothing but lies.
1638
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,791
Nothing but misrepresentation.
1639
01:18:25,792 --> 01:18:28,351
Nothing but
covering up the truth.
1640
01:18:28,351 --> 01:18:30,107
And governments
do lie frequently,
1641
01:18:30,111 --> 01:18:32,835
And it's my job to
find out when they lie.
1642
01:18:55,006 --> 01:18:57,250
If you don't step back and
look at the bigger picture,
1643
01:18:57,251 --> 01:19:00,947
Fundamentally, the empire
is not afraid of anyone really
1644
01:19:00,956 --> 01:19:02,519
That's running for office.
1645
01:19:02,523 --> 01:19:05,333
Whether it's the democrat
or the republican that wins,
1646
01:19:05,339 --> 01:19:08,216
The core institutions
of that necessitate
1647
01:19:08,219 --> 01:19:12,084
A brutal military force that
backs up the sort of, you know,
1648
01:19:12,090 --> 01:19:14,257
Velvet-gloved hand
of the free market
1649
01:19:14,265 --> 01:19:18,518
Is a given with every single
person that runs for office
1650
01:19:18,519 --> 01:19:20,629
Or can get the nomination
of those parties.
1651
01:19:20,631 --> 01:19:22,423
So, you know, even if
you have someone that,
1652
01:19:22,424 --> 01:19:24,887
In the general election,
is perceived to be,
1653
01:19:24,888 --> 01:19:26,574
You know, crazy.
1654
01:19:26,582 --> 01:19:29,104
Once they sort of start
getting those briefings
1655
01:19:29,109 --> 01:19:30,643
From the permanent
power structure,
1656
01:19:30,644 --> 01:19:31,765
The intelligence community,
1657
01:19:31,766 --> 01:19:33,202
They all step into line.
1658
01:19:52,337 --> 01:19:53,745
Well, in journalism school,
1659
01:19:53,746 --> 01:19:55,538
You're taught to be objective,
1660
01:19:55,539 --> 01:19:57,128
And objective means
1661
01:19:57,136 --> 01:20:01,893
Report accurately what's
going on within the beltway.
1662
01:20:01,903 --> 01:20:04,780
So, inside the system of power.
1663
01:20:04,783 --> 01:20:08,332
If you report that
accurately, you're objective.
1664
01:20:08,334 --> 01:20:11,469
If you go outside that,
you're biased.
1665
01:20:11,469 --> 01:20:13,548
Well, plenty of things outside
1666
01:20:13,549 --> 01:20:16,742
That this is a narrow
concentrated power system.
1667
01:20:16,748 --> 01:20:19,299
One of my favorite lines
from any film
1668
01:20:19,308 --> 01:20:23,083
Is from the film
"the usual suspects."
1669
01:20:23,083 --> 01:20:25,769
You know, Kevin spacey,
amazing as Kaiser Soze,
1670
01:20:25,771 --> 01:20:27,913
But at the end of
the film, he says,
1671
01:20:27,914 --> 01:20:29,573
"the greatest trick
the devil ever pulled..."
1672
01:20:29,578 --> 01:20:33,193
The greatest trick
the devil ever pulled
1673
01:20:33,194 --> 01:20:35,370
Was convincing the world
he didn't exist.
1674
01:20:35,371 --> 01:20:37,603
"Was convincing the
world he didn't exist."
1675
01:20:37,608 --> 01:20:39,526
You know, you've got
crazy people thinking
1676
01:20:39,528 --> 01:20:41,063
That the department
of homeland security's
1677
01:20:41,064 --> 01:20:42,886
Gonna put them in
a fema camp somewhere.
1678
01:20:42,887 --> 01:20:44,162
You have other people thinking
1679
01:20:44,166 --> 01:20:45,643
That Obama's gonna come
and take their guns.
1680
01:20:45,644 --> 01:20:46,942
That's all a sideshow.
1681
01:20:46,949 --> 01:20:48,580
That's all a total sideshow.
1682
01:20:48,581 --> 01:20:49,923
The coup already happened
1683
01:20:49,924 --> 01:20:51,842
And the most brilliant
part about it is
1684
01:20:51,844 --> 01:20:53,829
None of these people
seem to realize it.
1685
01:21:07,299 --> 01:21:10,464
I can draw a line
from I.F. Stone
1686
01:21:10,467 --> 01:21:12,030
Directly to what I'm doing now.
1687
01:21:12,034 --> 01:21:13,952
It makes me sad to
think that actually,
1688
01:21:13,954 --> 01:21:17,951
He isn't with us and it
makes me really hope that...
1689
01:21:17,952 --> 01:21:20,446
That the next I.F. Stone
or two or three or four
1690
01:21:20,448 --> 01:21:22,615
Or 400 are out there now,
1691
01:21:22,624 --> 01:21:24,319
Who might be watching this
right now, and thinking,
1692
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:25,307
"you know, I can do this."
1693
01:21:25,311 --> 01:21:26,615
Because you can do it.
1694
01:21:26,623 --> 01:21:27,713
You know, you can do it.
1695
01:21:27,714 --> 01:21:29,657
Especially if you...
again, do the work.
1696
01:21:29,662 --> 01:21:33,690
Do the hard work, but realize
that sometimes the best stuff
1697
01:21:33,693 --> 01:21:35,036
Is right there
in front of your nose,
1698
01:21:35,036 --> 01:21:36,724
And you don't even know it.
1699
01:21:51,035 --> 01:21:53,625
I've actually written
a book you might like better.
1700
01:21:54,872 --> 01:21:57,011
It's nice to meet you.
1701
01:21:57,017 --> 01:21:59,731
Funding is the key to great
investigative reporting.
1702
01:21:59,737 --> 01:22:01,751
That doesn't really
have a time frame.
1703
01:22:01,752 --> 01:22:04,375
It may take you months
to get a document
1704
01:22:04,376 --> 01:22:06,899
That may take you in many
different directions and so,
1705
01:22:06,903 --> 01:22:10,605
For me, time is... is equal
to the amount of funding,
1706
01:22:10,615 --> 01:22:12,178
And funding is equal
to the amount of time
1707
01:22:12,182 --> 01:22:13,649
That I can spend on something.
1708
01:22:13,653 --> 01:22:15,284
I'm working on
a project right now
1709
01:22:15,285 --> 01:22:16,568
That I've been working
on for the past year
1710
01:22:16,569 --> 01:22:18,002
And I probably will
take another year
1711
01:22:18,003 --> 01:22:19,279
Before it's actually broadcast.
1712
01:22:19,283 --> 01:22:21,968
If I were working
for corporate media,
1713
01:22:21,970 --> 01:22:23,246
This story would never air.
1714
01:22:23,249 --> 01:22:25,167
It just... I'd never
have that luxury
1715
01:22:25,169 --> 01:22:27,567
Of being able to develop
a story for that length of time.
1716
01:22:27,569 --> 01:22:30,034
As independent journalists,
I was wondering,
1717
01:22:30,035 --> 01:22:32,910
What do you guys think
the implications are
1718
01:22:32,913 --> 01:22:35,051
Of our news media being reduced
1719
01:22:35,056 --> 01:22:37,454
To 140-character
sound bites?
1720
01:22:37,456 --> 01:22:41,292
Twitter can play an incredible
role if used properly
1721
01:22:41,295 --> 01:22:44,968
By journalists
in debunking myths
1722
01:22:44,974 --> 01:22:46,188
Or misinformation.
1723
01:22:46,189 --> 01:22:47,877
The flip side is also true,
1724
01:22:47,884 --> 01:22:49,735
Which is that it can
spread misinformation
1725
01:22:49,740 --> 01:22:52,011
Very, very quickly.
1726
01:22:52,012 --> 01:22:54,860
I... I think that the future
is taking so much
1727
01:22:54,861 --> 01:22:57,286
Of what's amazing
about the creativity
1728
01:22:57,291 --> 01:22:58,921
And innovation of young people
1729
01:22:58,922 --> 01:23:01,895
Who are dipping their toes
into the water of journalism
1730
01:23:01,898 --> 01:23:04,842
And the ideas that they have,
and the lack of cynicism,
1731
01:23:04,843 --> 01:23:09,512
And we try to meld that with
old school muckraking techniques
1732
01:23:09,513 --> 01:23:11,172
And slow cooked journalism.
1733
01:23:11,177 --> 01:23:14,791
Whoever figures out how to
really web those two things
1734
01:23:14,792 --> 01:23:17,765
Is gonna create something very
special in the media landscape.
1735
01:23:17,768 --> 01:23:20,357
Almost my entire life
as a journalist
1736
01:23:20,359 --> 01:23:23,141
Has been spent in poverty media.
1737
01:23:23,142 --> 01:23:25,127
You know, media outlets
that have no money,
1738
01:23:25,128 --> 01:23:26,564
And we are professional beggars,
1739
01:23:26,565 --> 01:23:29,126
And begging can
sometimes come in the form
1740
01:23:29,127 --> 01:23:33,374
Of asking for funds
from... from a foundation
1741
01:23:33,380 --> 01:23:36,545
Or it can come in the form
of writing a letter
1742
01:23:36,548 --> 01:23:37,948
To your family
and friends, saying,
1743
01:23:37,956 --> 01:23:40,190
"I really want to go
to Iraq to be a reporter.
1744
01:23:40,195 --> 01:23:41,854
Can you kick in
25 or 50 bucks?"
1745
01:23:41,859 --> 01:23:43,259
And that's actually
how I financed
1746
01:23:43,267 --> 01:23:44,837
The first time
I ever went to Iraq,
1747
01:23:44,838 --> 01:23:47,001
Was begging my extended
family to pitch in
1748
01:23:47,009 --> 01:23:48,956
At $25 and $50.
1749
01:23:48,961 --> 01:23:50,272
He's come a long way
1750
01:23:50,273 --> 01:23:52,929
Since he was pretty much
the original volunteer
1751
01:23:52,930 --> 01:23:53,983
At democracy now!
1752
01:23:53,984 --> 01:23:55,298
Jeremy Scahill.
1753
01:23:59,038 --> 01:24:02,107
The fact that I... I now have
received this designation
1754
01:24:02,111 --> 01:24:03,677
Is a tremendous honor,
1755
01:24:03,678 --> 01:24:07,197
And I want to pledge
to use this opportunity
1756
01:24:07,198 --> 01:24:11,388
To educate a new generation
of young journalists
1757
01:24:11,389 --> 01:24:14,812
About the incredibly
important work of I.F. Stone
1758
01:24:14,813 --> 01:24:17,431
And the legacy that
he has left all of us
1759
01:24:17,437 --> 01:24:20,314
And the challenge
that he has left us all
1760
01:24:20,317 --> 01:24:24,469
In a very dark time
to simply be journalists.
1761
01:24:24,476 --> 01:24:26,970
This isn't a career,
this isn't a profession.
1762
01:24:26,971 --> 01:24:28,784
Journalism is a way of life.
1763
01:24:30,586 --> 01:24:33,367
My hope is that we somehow
miraculously produce
1764
01:24:33,369 --> 01:24:36,755
A generation of
young I.F. Stones.
1765
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,196
We need to stop keeping
up with the Kardashians
1766
01:24:39,197 --> 01:24:42,548
And start going back and
catching up on I.F. Stone.
1767
01:24:42,551 --> 01:24:44,181
Thank you very much.
1768
01:24:45,974 --> 01:24:49,780
I think he's really
an inspiration in the role
1769
01:24:49,781 --> 01:24:51,632
That media can play
in the world.
1770
01:24:51,637 --> 01:24:53,977
I think the media can
be the greatest force
1771
01:24:53,978 --> 01:24:55,631
For peace on earth.
1772
01:24:55,636 --> 01:24:58,674
Instead it's wielded
as a weapon of war,
1773
01:24:58,675 --> 01:25:00,593
And that has to be challenged.
1774
01:25:01,618 --> 01:25:04,207
I.F. Stone taught us
governments lie,
1775
01:25:04,210 --> 01:25:08,529
All governments lie,
especially in a time of war.
1776
01:25:08,530 --> 01:25:12,144
When the media acts as
a conveyor belt for the lies,
1777
01:25:12,145 --> 01:25:15,626
Why it matters is
because lies take lives
1778
01:25:15,632 --> 01:25:19,566
And we see
the enormous devastation
1779
01:25:19,567 --> 01:25:20,622
That came from that
1780
01:25:20,623 --> 01:25:22,695
That we still live with today
1781
01:25:22,702 --> 01:25:24,716
So many years later.
1782
01:25:24,718 --> 01:25:28,487
That came from a media that
did not challenge the lies.
1783
01:25:29,901 --> 01:25:31,368
Just because you're a journalist
1784
01:25:31,372 --> 01:25:33,348
Doesn't mean you check
your humanity at the door.
1785
01:25:33,355 --> 01:25:35,406
This is... you don't
somehow get some pass
1786
01:25:35,407 --> 01:25:36,937
To not care about people.
1787
01:25:36,938 --> 01:25:39,691
Sometimes there is only
one way of seeing a story,
1788
01:25:39,692 --> 01:25:41,349
And sometimes the
truth is just true.
1789
01:25:48,617 --> 01:25:50,535
There's only two
types of reporters.
1790
01:25:51,303 --> 01:25:53,478
There's those who care,
1791
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:55,330
And those who don't.
1792
01:25:55,335 --> 01:25:58,979
Most of 'em don't care,
but if you care,
1793
01:25:58,982 --> 01:26:01,763
If you are as I was
in El Salvador,
1794
01:26:01,765 --> 01:26:04,738
Or Gaza or Sarajevo,
1795
01:26:04,741 --> 01:26:08,510
Then you are immediately
branded as political,
1796
01:26:08,516 --> 01:26:10,491
Because if you care,
1797
01:26:10,499 --> 01:26:14,625
You can't lie to
cover up oppression,
1798
01:26:14,626 --> 01:26:17,023
Atrocity, genocide.
1799
01:26:18,944 --> 01:26:21,889
And I.F. Stone cared.
1800
01:26:26,847 --> 01:26:29,311
The Vietnam war has
been a terrible defeat
1801
01:26:29,311 --> 01:26:31,009
For all the brand
names we believe in.
1802
01:26:31,010 --> 01:26:34,526
For general electric and
general motors and at&t.
1803
01:26:34,527 --> 01:26:35,994
For all the great corporations,
1804
01:26:35,998 --> 01:26:38,396
All the great industry
that do the push buttons,
1805
01:26:38,397 --> 01:26:39,998
And when they...
when they turn to war,
1806
01:26:39,999 --> 01:26:42,173
They know how to
kill people en masse.
1807
01:26:42,174 --> 01:26:43,831
And here, down in the jungle,
1808
01:26:43,836 --> 01:26:45,946
Way below is this
strange creature
1809
01:26:45,948 --> 01:26:47,866
That we can't crush.
1810
01:26:47,868 --> 01:26:51,704
This strange animal
we can't kill.
1811
01:26:51,708 --> 01:26:55,387
It's time to look closely
at it and see, by god,
1812
01:26:55,388 --> 01:26:57,881
It's a human being,
and isn't that wonderful
1813
01:26:57,883 --> 01:27:00,281
That human beings can resist
1814
01:27:00,283 --> 01:27:02,719
All this murderous
technology of ours?
1815
01:27:19,095 --> 01:27:22,422
Very briefly and in no small
measure to remind ourselves,
1816
01:27:22,423 --> 01:27:23,832
An observation by stone
1817
01:27:23,833 --> 01:27:26,229
And what he thought
journalism was all about.
1818
01:27:26,231 --> 01:27:28,117
In his words,
to write the truth,
1819
01:27:28,118 --> 01:27:29,585
To defend the weak
against the strong,
1820
01:27:29,589 --> 01:27:32,601
To fight for justice,
to bring healing perspectives
1821
01:27:32,601 --> 01:27:36,241
To bear on the terrible
hates and fears of mankind
1822
01:27:36,244 --> 01:27:38,095
In the hope of someday
bringing about a world
1823
01:27:38,100 --> 01:27:41,840
In which man will enjoy the
differences of the human garden
1824
01:27:41,843 --> 01:27:44,557
Instead of killing
each other over them.
1825
01:27:44,563 --> 01:27:46,088
If you look
you'll find much more.
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