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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:39,911 --> 00:00:42,480 {\an8}Go and have the time of your life. 2 00:00:42,580 --> 00:00:44,082 {\an8}WILL: A newsflash. 3 00:00:45,817 --> 00:00:47,318 {\an8}Plane's gone down. 4 00:00:54,893 --> 00:00:56,227 - Murray Guthrie. - Jim Swire. 5 00:00:56,327 --> 00:00:57,862 Full disclosure, I'm a journalist. 6 00:00:57,962 --> 00:01:00,298 JIM: They say in the press it may have been Iran, revenge attack. 7 00:01:00,398 --> 00:01:02,500 MURRAY: Anonymous phone call made to the US Embassy. 8 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,169 Embassy dismissed it as a hoax. 9 00:01:04,269 --> 00:01:07,005 JIM: Your government knew. They all knew. 10 00:01:07,105 --> 00:01:08,606 JANE: I have nightmares. 11 00:01:09,674 --> 00:01:12,410 Was our daughter conscious as she fell through the sky? 12 00:01:12,510 --> 00:01:15,280 JIM: How did a bomb get through airport security 13 00:01:15,380 --> 00:01:16,614 and onto Flight 103? 14 00:01:16,715 --> 00:01:18,783 Why is there so much secrecy around this? 15 00:01:18,883 --> 00:01:21,653 JANE: Are we ever going to know what really happened? 16 00:01:21,753 --> 00:01:23,021 JIM: I will never stop. 17 00:01:23,121 --> 00:01:24,789 Not until we know the answer to everything. 18 00:01:45,310 --> 00:01:47,078 {\an8}JIM ON VOICEMAIL: You've reached the Swire household. 19 00:01:47,178 --> 00:01:48,947 {\an8}We're not home to take your call at the moment. 20 00:01:49,047 --> 00:01:50,949 {\an8}Please leave a message after the beep 21 00:01:51,049 --> 00:01:52,951 {\an8}- and we'll get back to you. - (BEEP) 22 00:01:53,051 --> 00:01:55,387 Oh, hi, Jim. Murray here. 23 00:01:55,487 --> 00:01:57,022 I hope you're sitting down, 24 00:01:57,122 --> 00:02:00,392 because I've just heard Thatcher's ordered an independent inquiry 25 00:02:01,326 --> 00:02:04,162 into the Strangeways Prison riot. 26 00:02:04,262 --> 00:02:07,365 Sum total of deaths, two. 27 00:02:07,465 --> 00:02:10,735 So we now have inquiries into the Clapham Junction crash, 28 00:02:10,835 --> 00:02:11,903 35 deaths, 29 00:02:12,003 --> 00:02:14,406 the King's Cross fire, 31 deaths, 30 00:02:14,506 --> 00:02:17,876 and the Piper Alpha disaster, 167 deaths. 31 00:02:17,976 --> 00:02:19,778 But bugger all for Lockerbie. 32 00:02:20,845 --> 00:02:23,515 Bugger all for 270 dead. 33 00:02:25,316 --> 00:02:26,818 I mean... (LAUGHS INCREDULOUSLY) 34 00:02:26,918 --> 00:02:29,020 ...what is it with these people? 35 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,857 What the hell do you have to do to make them sit up and take notice? 36 00:02:32,957 --> 00:02:35,694 Actually get off their arses and do something? 37 00:02:37,195 --> 00:02:38,496 What is it they're hiding? 38 00:02:38,596 --> 00:02:40,765 (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) 39 00:02:46,037 --> 00:02:49,374 (INDISTINCT ANNOUNCEMENTS OVER PA) 40 00:03:03,722 --> 00:03:04,856 What's going on? 41 00:03:04,956 --> 00:03:07,225 Security spot checks on luggage. 42 00:03:13,732 --> 00:03:15,734 OFFICER: Am I okay to look inside? 43 00:03:15,834 --> 00:03:16,868 Yes. 44 00:03:20,105 --> 00:03:21,806 Where are you flying to, sir? 45 00:03:21,906 --> 00:03:23,875 Boston, via JFK. 46 00:03:37,589 --> 00:03:39,824 Have you taken the batteries out, sir? 47 00:03:39,924 --> 00:03:40,925 We have new safety rules. 48 00:03:42,027 --> 00:03:43,828 Yes. Yeah, I have. Mm-hmm. 49 00:03:49,100 --> 00:03:50,435 Thank you. 50 00:03:51,603 --> 00:03:52,804 Have a safe flight. 51 00:03:55,607 --> 00:03:56,775 (OFFICER CLEARS THROAT) 52 00:04:13,858 --> 00:04:15,994 - Sorry, the traffic. - JANE: Hello, darling. 53 00:04:16,094 --> 00:04:18,963 - Don't worry. How are you? - Good. How are you? 54 00:04:19,064 --> 00:04:20,398 JANE: (CHUCKLES) Good. 55 00:04:21,099 --> 00:04:22,400 (DOOR CLOSES) 56 00:04:27,906 --> 00:04:29,374 Oh, it was a gift. 57 00:04:29,474 --> 00:04:33,778 Flora's boyfriend's father painted it and sent it over for us. 58 00:04:33,878 --> 00:04:35,947 He's really caught her, don't you think? 59 00:04:40,985 --> 00:04:43,421 You don't think there's enough reminders? 60 00:04:50,495 --> 00:04:51,796 It's not Flora. 61 00:04:59,571 --> 00:05:01,940 Dad made it to the airport all right? 62 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:03,208 Oh... Oh, yeah. 63 00:05:03,975 --> 00:05:06,244 Did you get any sleep last night? 64 00:05:07,012 --> 00:05:09,914 - (SNIFFLES) - Hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey. 65 00:05:11,216 --> 00:05:13,118 Sit down and put your feet up. 66 00:05:13,218 --> 00:05:15,653 I'll take those bags upstairs, and then I'll make us some tea. 67 00:05:17,789 --> 00:05:18,790 Okay? 68 00:05:29,934 --> 00:05:31,936 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 69 00:05:53,224 --> 00:05:56,461 - (EXPLOSION) - (PEOPLE SCREAMING) 70 00:06:04,202 --> 00:06:05,603 (SCREAMS) 71 00:06:07,372 --> 00:06:08,840 (SCREAMS, PANTS) 72 00:06:10,909 --> 00:06:11,910 You okay? 73 00:06:17,082 --> 00:06:19,584 Mum, please. Will you go and speak to someone? 74 00:06:19,684 --> 00:06:22,921 It's okay. I'm fine. I'm fine, Cathy. I'm fine. 75 00:06:24,923 --> 00:06:25,957 It's fine. 76 00:06:38,136 --> 00:06:39,437 (SIGHS) 77 00:06:50,548 --> 00:06:53,518 (INDISTINCT ANNOUNCEMENTS OVER PA) 78 00:07:25,650 --> 00:07:26,818 Hello, Jim. 79 00:07:28,119 --> 00:07:29,187 It's good to see you. 80 00:07:29,287 --> 00:07:32,390 Everyone's excited to finally meet you in person. 81 00:07:32,490 --> 00:07:34,993 JIM: My very own homemade version 82 00:07:36,628 --> 00:07:40,765 of the bomb which blew up Flight 103. 83 00:07:42,701 --> 00:07:44,836 You brought that with you on a plane? 84 00:07:45,370 --> 00:07:47,038 Is that Semtex? 85 00:07:47,872 --> 00:07:51,209 A very pliable, odorless plastic explosive 86 00:07:51,309 --> 00:07:54,979 favored by paramilitary groups and terrorists. 87 00:07:59,284 --> 00:08:00,752 I used marzipan. 88 00:08:02,220 --> 00:08:03,455 Jim, I'm sorry. 89 00:08:03,555 --> 00:08:04,923 Are you out of your mind? 90 00:08:05,023 --> 00:08:06,358 How many times have we been told 91 00:08:06,458 --> 00:08:07,692 that airport security has improved, 92 00:08:07,792 --> 00:08:09,227 that a bomb would never get onto a plane nowadays? 93 00:08:09,327 --> 00:08:11,429 Yeah, sure. But is this the way to call them out? 94 00:08:11,529 --> 00:08:14,065 Dan, a security officer at Heathrow picked it up, looked at it, 95 00:08:14,165 --> 00:08:15,433 and wished me a safe onward journey. 96 00:08:15,533 --> 00:08:17,769 I got through three sets of security checks 97 00:08:17,869 --> 00:08:20,905 to get here via JFK. I wasn't stopped once. 98 00:08:24,209 --> 00:08:27,045 Now I'm sorry if this upsets some of you. 99 00:08:27,145 --> 00:08:30,181 I wanted it to be impossible for me to do this, believe me. 100 00:08:31,316 --> 00:08:32,851 The fact is, it wasn't. 101 00:08:34,319 --> 00:08:35,687 And people need to know. 102 00:08:42,394 --> 00:08:44,929 REPORTER: William, did you know about the fake bomb? 103 00:08:45,030 --> 00:08:46,865 Did you know about the fake bomb? 104 00:08:46,965 --> 00:08:49,467 Do you agree with what your father's done? 105 00:08:49,567 --> 00:08:52,137 (REPORTERS CLAMORING) 106 00:08:52,237 --> 00:08:56,808 {\an8}Incredible, audacious, an act of gross stupidity. 107 00:08:56,908 --> 00:08:59,477 {\an8}Just some of the reactions to Dr. Jim Swire, 108 00:08:59,577 --> 00:09:02,647 spokesman for UK Families Flight 103. 109 00:09:02,747 --> 00:09:05,984 Why? Because he built a fake bomb in his home 110 00:09:06,084 --> 00:09:07,986 - and carried it in a suitcase... - Did you know about this? 111 00:09:08,086 --> 00:09:10,488 - ...on a flight from London to New York. - No. 112 00:09:10,588 --> 00:09:12,323 The same route on which his daughter, 113 00:09:12,424 --> 00:09:14,192 Flora, was killed. 114 00:09:14,292 --> 00:09:16,728 JIM: If I was a terrorist, another plane would have been blown out of the sky. 115 00:09:16,828 --> 00:09:18,997 Hundreds more innocent people would have been murdered. 116 00:09:19,097 --> 00:09:22,467 NEWSCASTER: Twenty-four hours since touching down in the US, 117 00:09:22,567 --> 00:09:24,169 Dr. Swire has-- 118 00:09:24,269 --> 00:09:26,438 The Midlands doctor, whose daughter died in the Lockerbie plane bomb-- 119 00:09:26,538 --> 00:09:30,175 {\an8}I cannot stress strongly enough this government's determination 120 00:09:30,275 --> 00:09:34,012 to enforce the highest standards of aviation security... 121 00:09:34,112 --> 00:09:37,082 ...and we will be speaking to Dr. Swire 122 00:09:37,182 --> 00:09:39,050 on his return to the UK. 123 00:09:39,718 --> 00:09:42,020 (INDISTINCT ANNOUNCEMENTS OVER PA) 124 00:10:02,073 --> 00:10:03,141 JANE: Finally. 125 00:10:09,614 --> 00:10:11,883 Questioned. Given a verbal warning. 126 00:10:13,752 --> 00:10:15,653 Bad boy, don't do it again. 127 00:10:18,356 --> 00:10:19,724 (SIGHS) 128 00:10:23,561 --> 00:10:24,863 I'm sorry. 129 00:10:27,365 --> 00:10:30,101 What hurts the most is being kept in the dark. 130 00:10:31,870 --> 00:10:33,405 I didn't want to get you involved. 131 00:10:33,505 --> 00:10:34,806 (SIGHS) 132 00:10:35,807 --> 00:10:39,077 There were press people outside, Jim, dozens of them. 133 00:10:39,177 --> 00:10:41,379 We hadn't a clue what was going on. 134 00:10:41,479 --> 00:10:43,214 And what if you had been arrested, 135 00:10:43,314 --> 00:10:44,249 here or in America? 136 00:10:44,349 --> 00:10:46,084 Wh... Wh... What would I have done? 137 00:10:47,452 --> 00:10:48,753 And the kids. 138 00:10:49,654 --> 00:10:51,990 Did you think about any of us? 139 00:10:54,292 --> 00:10:56,761 - Did Murray put you up to this? - JIM: No. 140 00:10:58,997 --> 00:11:00,398 No, all my own doing. 141 00:11:00,498 --> 00:11:02,901 Is that why you've been shut up in your study all this time? 142 00:11:04,736 --> 00:11:06,671 You've barely spoken a word to us. 143 00:11:06,771 --> 00:11:08,740 Spineless government hiding behind secrets, 144 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,543 criminal investigation taking forever. 145 00:11:11,643 --> 00:11:13,812 I just wanted to make some noise. 146 00:11:15,613 --> 00:11:17,449 - Do something. - You are doing something. 147 00:11:17,549 --> 00:11:20,118 You're constantly giving interviews, writing letters. 148 00:11:20,218 --> 00:11:23,621 - Howling at the moon. - No. No, Jim. That's not true. 149 00:11:23,722 --> 00:11:26,558 This will cause consternation and tutting for a few days, 150 00:11:26,658 --> 00:11:28,159 then it will all go quiet again. 151 00:11:33,998 --> 00:11:36,201 I should have told you. It was wrong of me. 152 00:11:46,911 --> 00:11:48,079 It's all for her. 153 00:11:53,651 --> 00:11:55,920 You haven't stopped since she died. 154 00:12:01,593 --> 00:12:02,894 What else can I do? 155 00:12:09,734 --> 00:12:13,271 For now, take a step back. 156 00:12:15,507 --> 00:12:16,941 You have me, 157 00:12:17,642 --> 00:12:19,377 you have two other children... 158 00:12:21,713 --> 00:12:23,048 Be with us. 159 00:13:11,863 --> 00:13:14,099 - (DOOR OPENS) - Good to be back. 160 00:13:38,523 --> 00:13:39,524 (CHUCKLES) 161 00:13:41,459 --> 00:13:42,460 (JIM CLEARS THROAT) 162 00:13:45,063 --> 00:13:48,800 (INDISTINCT CHATTER AND LAUGHTER) 163 00:13:48,900 --> 00:13:50,835 JANE: Here it goes. 164 00:13:50,935 --> 00:13:53,004 - Thanks, darling. - You're going down. 165 00:13:53,104 --> 00:13:54,406 - Ready? - Steady. 166 00:13:54,506 --> 00:13:57,075 - Go! - WILL: What? No! 167 00:13:57,809 --> 00:14:00,111 (CATHY LAUGHING) 168 00:14:03,848 --> 00:14:05,517 No, no! No, no! 169 00:14:06,317 --> 00:14:08,086 Get behind me. 170 00:14:10,689 --> 00:14:12,323 Come on! 171 00:14:13,158 --> 00:14:14,325 Run! 172 00:14:19,064 --> 00:14:21,366 (MELANCHOLIC MUSIC PLAYING) 173 00:16:11,176 --> 00:16:14,479 - (INDISTINCT CHATTER) - (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) 174 00:16:21,586 --> 00:16:22,654 WILL: Thanks, Dad. 175 00:16:25,757 --> 00:16:27,359 (PATRONS APPLAUDING) 176 00:16:32,697 --> 00:16:34,499 NEWSCASTER: Now, three years later, 177 00:16:34,599 --> 00:16:37,302 two suspects have finally been identified. 178 00:16:37,402 --> 00:16:39,337 Their names announced earlier today 179 00:16:39,437 --> 00:16:42,273 by Scotland's Lord Advocate Peter Fraser. 180 00:16:42,374 --> 00:16:48,346 FRASER: And yesterday, Mr. McDougall obtained from him the grant of warrants 181 00:16:48,446 --> 00:16:51,983 for the arrest of two Libyan nationals... 182 00:16:52,083 --> 00:16:55,453 - Libya? I thought Iran did it? - ...on charges of conspiracy, 183 00:16:55,954 --> 00:16:58,223 murder and contravention 184 00:16:58,323 --> 00:17:02,827 of the Aviation Security Act of 1982. 185 00:17:02,927 --> 00:17:04,763 {\an8}The two accused are... 186 00:17:05,463 --> 00:17:10,502 Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi 187 00:17:11,102 --> 00:17:15,507 and Al Amin Khalifa Fhimah. 188 00:17:16,341 --> 00:17:18,309 - Both accused are believed... - They did it. 189 00:17:18,410 --> 00:17:21,513 ...to be in Libya. The warrants will be 190 00:17:21,613 --> 00:17:23,982 - ...circulated to Interpol... - WILL: They got them. 191 00:17:24,082 --> 00:17:28,520 ...but it is considered unlikely that they will be arrested. 192 00:17:35,794 --> 00:17:38,196 (TIRES SCREECHING) 193 00:17:53,978 --> 00:17:55,347 (DOOR LOCKS) 194 00:17:55,447 --> 00:17:57,615 (BREATHING HEAVILY) 195 00:18:10,862 --> 00:18:13,765 - (TV PLAYING INDISTINCTLY) - (DISHES CLATTERING) 196 00:18:23,341 --> 00:18:24,509 {\an8}(SPEAKING ARABIC) 197 00:20:41,513 --> 00:20:43,682 JIM: So I've gone through the indictment 198 00:20:43,782 --> 00:20:45,483 and set it out in layman's terms, 199 00:20:45,583 --> 00:20:48,019 together with some of the other information that we have. 200 00:20:49,688 --> 00:20:51,690 As we know, the bomb... 201 00:20:52,457 --> 00:20:55,427 hand-built presumably, was hidden inside 202 00:20:55,527 --> 00:20:58,396 a Toshiba BomBeat radio-cassette recorder 203 00:20:58,496 --> 00:21:01,466 and placed amongst articles of clothing 204 00:21:02,467 --> 00:21:05,704 inside a brown Samsonite suitcase. 205 00:21:05,804 --> 00:21:09,307 Now we know this because blast-charred fragments of clothing and suitcase 206 00:21:09,407 --> 00:21:11,309 were found by search teams in Lockerbie 207 00:21:11,409 --> 00:21:12,811 and forensically examined 208 00:21:12,911 --> 00:21:15,246 by the Royal Armament Research and Development Establishment. 209 00:21:16,281 --> 00:21:19,084 Now at the same time, a baggage record from Frankfurt 210 00:21:19,184 --> 00:21:21,019 was turned over to Scottish police. 211 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,755 It flagged one unattended piece of luggage, 212 00:21:23,855 --> 00:21:27,692 a suitcase not connected with anybody on the flight. 213 00:21:27,792 --> 00:21:30,895 That suitcase was destined for Pan Am 103. 214 00:21:31,730 --> 00:21:36,134 Via Frankfurt, it had originated in Malta. 215 00:21:36,234 --> 00:21:38,169 Forensic experts then looked more closely 216 00:21:38,269 --> 00:21:39,571 at the damaged clothing, 217 00:21:39,671 --> 00:21:42,907 finding a pair of Yorkie trousers, 218 00:21:43,008 --> 00:21:47,145 which Scottish police traced to a clothing manufacturer, also on Malta. 219 00:21:47,245 --> 00:21:50,615 That manufacturer then led them to one of their buyers. 220 00:21:50,715 --> 00:21:53,451 A shop called Mary's House, again on Malta. 221 00:21:53,551 --> 00:21:56,087 Now, Mary's House is owned by the Gauci family. 222 00:21:56,187 --> 00:21:59,424 Tony Gauci has positively identified one of the suspects, 223 00:21:59,524 --> 00:22:01,493 Megrahi, to Scottish police 224 00:22:01,593 --> 00:22:07,499 as the man he sold the clothing to on December 7th, 1988. 225 00:22:07,599 --> 00:22:13,338 And then, amazingly, found lodged inside the remnants 226 00:22:13,438 --> 00:22:16,541 of one of the shirts that Gauci sold... 227 00:22:19,944 --> 00:22:21,046 was this. 228 00:22:23,581 --> 00:22:25,850 Tiny piece of electronic circuit board. 229 00:22:26,951 --> 00:22:33,358 This is absolutely central to the Crown's prosecution case. 230 00:22:34,292 --> 00:22:37,829 Both British and American forensic experts agree... 231 00:22:41,299 --> 00:22:43,568 this is part of the timer 232 00:22:44,469 --> 00:22:47,105 attached to the bomb's detonator. 233 00:22:48,139 --> 00:22:51,276 It was made by a Swiss firm based in Zurich, MEBO, 234 00:22:51,376 --> 00:22:55,547 owned by Edwin Bollier and Erwin Meister. 235 00:22:55,647 --> 00:23:01,319 MEBO supplied 20 of the timers exclusively to Libya. 236 00:23:02,420 --> 00:23:05,390 Not only this, but Megrahi established a front company 237 00:23:05,490 --> 00:23:07,892 under the name ABH, used as a cover 238 00:23:07,992 --> 00:23:10,128 for Libyan intelligence operations. 239 00:23:12,130 --> 00:23:14,265 This business was established 240 00:23:14,366 --> 00:23:18,002 in the same office building as MEBO. 241 00:23:21,106 --> 00:23:22,707 And here are our suspects. 242 00:23:29,214 --> 00:23:30,548 Both men live in Tripoli. 243 00:23:30,648 --> 00:23:33,485 Both are said to be Libyan intelligence agents, 244 00:23:33,585 --> 00:23:37,355 with Megrahi owning a second passport 245 00:23:37,455 --> 00:23:41,526 given to him by the Libyan Intelligence Agency, the JSO. 246 00:23:42,527 --> 00:23:44,496 Both men worked for Libyan-Arab airlines, 247 00:23:44,596 --> 00:23:47,766 with Megrahi as Head of Airline Security until 1986. 248 00:23:47,866 --> 00:23:51,936 Fhimah, as Station Manager at Malta airport until 1988. 249 00:23:52,037 --> 00:23:56,074 Police believe the bomb was put onto the plane at Malta airport, 250 00:23:56,174 --> 00:23:57,676 using Fhimah's old security pass 251 00:23:57,776 --> 00:24:01,046 to gain airside access, using Air Malta baggage tags... 252 00:24:01,146 --> 00:24:03,982 ...to allow unaccompanied baggage on board. 253 00:24:05,717 --> 00:24:07,419 That is how Fhimah and Megrahi 254 00:24:07,519 --> 00:24:09,854 were able to get the suitcase airside. 255 00:24:09,954 --> 00:24:14,492 That is how they were able to get the bomb straight through customs, 256 00:24:14,592 --> 00:24:16,761 and bypass airport security. 257 00:24:17,862 --> 00:24:21,900 That is how these men killed 270 people. 258 00:24:29,441 --> 00:24:31,142 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 259 00:24:40,919 --> 00:24:43,455 - Hello. - MURRAY: So let me get this straight. 260 00:24:43,555 --> 00:24:45,857 For almost three years, we've been told 261 00:24:45,957 --> 00:24:48,393 that Flight 103 was a revenge attack by Iran 262 00:24:48,493 --> 00:24:52,330 for the US shooting down its Airbus, killing 290 people. 263 00:24:52,430 --> 00:24:53,698 They paid a Palestinian terror group, 264 00:24:53,798 --> 00:24:57,168 the PFLP-GC, who are based in Syria, 265 00:24:57,268 --> 00:24:58,136 to carry out the bombing. 266 00:24:58,236 --> 00:25:02,507 So, we've got motives, named suspects. 267 00:25:02,607 --> 00:25:05,410 But then everything changes. We got it all wrong. 268 00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:06,611 It was Libya. 269 00:25:06,711 --> 00:25:09,414 Murray, have you actually read the indictment? 270 00:25:09,514 --> 00:25:11,349 The evidence against them is pretty damning. 271 00:25:11,449 --> 00:25:12,884 It's a remarkable piece of detective work. 272 00:25:12,984 --> 00:25:15,153 MURRAY: You know, I heard an interesting rumor this morning. 273 00:25:15,253 --> 00:25:16,421 President Bush rang Thatcher 274 00:25:16,521 --> 00:25:19,624 {\an8}three months after Lockerbie and told her, lay off Iran. 275 00:25:19,724 --> 00:25:21,726 {\an8}And then, on top of that, 276 00:25:21,826 --> 00:25:24,195 {\an8}a year later, Iraq invades Kuwait. 277 00:25:24,295 --> 00:25:27,799 {\an8}So now, we need Syria's help... 278 00:25:28,867 --> 00:25:30,368 ...to liberate Kuwait, 279 00:25:30,468 --> 00:25:32,370 keep Iran sweet and out of the way. 280 00:25:32,470 --> 00:25:33,972 That's how you defeat Saddam. 281 00:25:34,072 --> 00:25:36,908 Can you not accept that the Scottish investigators and the CIA 282 00:25:37,008 --> 00:25:38,109 might have got this right? 283 00:25:38,209 --> 00:25:39,778 MURRAY: I'm just asking the question, Jim. 284 00:25:39,878 --> 00:25:42,313 The West kicks the Middle East around like a football 285 00:25:42,414 --> 00:25:44,382 to suit its needs, always has done. 286 00:25:44,482 --> 00:25:46,217 I think that's what we're seeing here. 287 00:25:46,317 --> 00:25:47,552 Now it's Libya's turn. 288 00:25:47,652 --> 00:25:49,154 Rogue state ruled by Colonel Gaddafi, 289 00:25:49,254 --> 00:25:51,723 a murderous nutjob with a history of funding terrorism. 290 00:25:51,823 --> 00:25:53,525 Exactly. They have a history of this kind of thing. 291 00:25:53,625 --> 00:25:56,294 And we've been trying to topple Gaddafi for nearly a decade. 292 00:25:56,394 --> 00:25:57,996 I mean, what better excuse? 293 00:25:58,096 --> 00:26:00,732 Murray, I'm sorry. I don't have time to listen to your madcap theories. 294 00:26:00,832 --> 00:26:02,267 MURRAY: You mark my words, Jim. 295 00:26:02,367 --> 00:26:06,671 {\an8}If you think Gaddafi is going to let the West railroad Libya, 296 00:26:06,771 --> 00:26:08,606 you've got another thing coming. 297 00:26:08,707 --> 00:26:11,009 REPORTER: You going to do anything about Gaddafi? 298 00:26:11,109 --> 00:26:12,911 NEWSCASTER 1: The United States carried out the attack 299 00:26:13,011 --> 00:26:15,246 in retaliation for what it said were terrorist acts. 300 00:26:15,347 --> 00:26:17,882 Under the direct orders of the Libyan regime... 301 00:26:17,982 --> 00:26:19,818 NEWSCASTER 2: A noted 100 Libyans were killed... 302 00:26:19,918 --> 00:26:21,486 And 30 in Benghazi... 303 00:26:21,586 --> 00:26:23,555 NEWSCASTER 3: The defiance of Libyans in the street was soon apparent. 304 00:26:23,655 --> 00:26:27,659 NEWSCASTER 4: Suicide squads will be sent to attack American targets. 305 00:26:27,759 --> 00:26:29,160 {\an8}Renewed anti-American feeling within Libya. 306 00:26:29,260 --> 00:26:30,762 NEWSCASTER 5: Syrian leader, President Assad, 307 00:26:30,862 --> 00:26:32,364 pledging his support for Gaddafi. 308 00:26:32,464 --> 00:26:34,599 NEWSCASTER 6: Almost every major terrorist incident 309 00:26:34,699 --> 00:26:37,068 has been attributed to Libya and Gaddafi. 310 00:26:37,168 --> 00:26:39,804 {\an8}NEWSCASTER 7: Libya implemented the hijacking of a Pan Am jumbo jet 311 00:26:39,904 --> 00:26:41,339 carried out by four Palestinians. 312 00:26:41,439 --> 00:26:44,442 NEWSCASTER 8: The bullet which killed WPC Yvonne Fletcher 313 00:26:44,542 --> 00:26:47,012 came from Libyans inside the embassy. 314 00:26:48,146 --> 00:26:50,115 NEWSCASTER 9: Supported the Irish Republican Army. 315 00:26:50,215 --> 00:26:53,651 This mad dog of the Middle East referred to the slaughter 316 00:26:53,752 --> 00:26:56,054 in Rome and Vienna airports as a noble act. 317 00:26:56,154 --> 00:26:59,224 Iran and Libya are two of the most dangerous supporters 318 00:26:59,324 --> 00:27:00,759 of terrorism in the world. 319 00:27:00,859 --> 00:27:04,996 {\an8}America is a powerful country. Will not intimidate us 320 00:27:05,096 --> 00:27:08,400 to accept a responsibility that is not ours. 321 00:27:21,813 --> 00:27:23,381 (CAR DOOR CLOSES AND LOCKS) 322 00:27:26,384 --> 00:27:27,786 JIM: Oh, my God! 323 00:27:31,156 --> 00:27:32,190 My apologies. 324 00:27:33,158 --> 00:27:34,959 I did not mean to frighten you. 325 00:27:36,594 --> 00:27:37,929 JIM: Who the hell are you? 326 00:27:41,466 --> 00:27:43,802 My name is Nabil Nagameldin. 327 00:27:43,902 --> 00:27:46,371 I work for the Al-Ahram newspaper in Cairo. 328 00:27:51,443 --> 00:27:55,747 I have come to tell you that Gaddafi will never release these two suspects. 329 00:27:55,847 --> 00:27:59,017 - That isn't possible. - Oh, no, I'm afraid it is. 330 00:27:59,117 --> 00:28:02,020 Libya is under immense international pressure to hand them over. 331 00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:05,156 Which would make most countries capitulate. 332 00:28:05,256 --> 00:28:09,060 But Libya is not most countries. Libya is ruled by Muammar Gaddafi, 333 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,031 who loves nothing more than thumbing his nose at the West. 334 00:28:13,131 --> 00:28:15,934 He will stall and obstruct at every turn. 335 00:28:17,369 --> 00:28:18,937 But he's not stupid. 336 00:28:19,037 --> 00:28:22,974 He knows that he has to assuage the other Middle Eastern and African countries. 337 00:28:23,074 --> 00:28:27,846 So there are rumors these men will stand trial. 338 00:28:28,747 --> 00:28:30,048 But in Libya. 339 00:28:30,949 --> 00:28:33,385 No, they cannot be tried in Libya. 340 00:28:33,485 --> 00:28:35,520 It is imperative these men stand trial in Scotland. 341 00:28:35,620 --> 00:28:39,024 I agree. That is why I have come here with a request, 342 00:28:39,124 --> 00:28:41,393 or more appropriately an offer... 343 00:28:41,493 --> 00:28:42,894 (CLEARS THROAT) 344 00:28:42,994 --> 00:28:46,498 ...to take you to Libya to meet with Colonel Gaddafi. 345 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,569 - (SCOFFS) - NABIL: I have contacts in the Libyan government. 346 00:28:51,669 --> 00:28:53,405 I will write the article and you will... 347 00:28:53,505 --> 00:28:55,340 you will grant me an interview after your meeting. 348 00:28:56,975 --> 00:29:00,011 Why on earth would I do something like that? 349 00:29:00,111 --> 00:29:03,615 Look, Gaddafi is... is... is impetuous and impatient. 350 00:29:03,715 --> 00:29:06,584 He... he has to be approached with... with certain, 351 00:29:06,685 --> 00:29:08,953 shall we say, unconventional ways. 352 00:29:09,054 --> 00:29:13,391 An approach like this from you, that is one of those ways, I'm convinced. 353 00:29:13,491 --> 00:29:15,760 Gaddafi doesn't have the first idea who I am. 354 00:29:15,860 --> 00:29:18,229 NABIL: You are wrong, Dr. Swire. 355 00:29:19,164 --> 00:29:21,433 In the Middle East, you have standing, 356 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,401 you are known. 357 00:29:24,536 --> 00:29:28,440 You are admired. People respect you. Truly. 358 00:29:28,540 --> 00:29:31,009 They have seen you stand up against your government. 359 00:29:31,109 --> 00:29:35,714 {\an8}Look, next month in New York, the UN Security Council 360 00:29:35,814 --> 00:29:38,116 {\an8}will be meeting to discuss Resolution 731, 361 00:29:38,216 --> 00:29:40,985 {\an8}compelling Libya to hand over the two suspects. 362 00:29:41,886 --> 00:29:43,355 Gaddafi will not comply. 363 00:29:43,455 --> 00:29:46,624 Your country and America's next move will be to impose sanctions. 364 00:29:46,725 --> 00:29:48,460 The moment that happens, 365 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,463 Libya will become even more of a pariah state. 366 00:29:51,563 --> 00:29:53,465 Gaddafi's position will harden, 367 00:29:54,766 --> 00:29:57,268 and your... your Lockerbie trial will be... 368 00:29:57,902 --> 00:29:59,571 will be dead, finished. 369 00:30:04,642 --> 00:30:06,011 Tell me this is a bad joke. 370 00:30:06,111 --> 00:30:07,879 Are you sure he's not making it all up? 371 00:30:07,979 --> 00:30:09,247 Oh, no, he seems genuine. 372 00:30:09,347 --> 00:30:11,316 He writes for a newspaper in Cairo. 373 00:30:11,916 --> 00:30:13,351 Dad, you're not going. 374 00:30:13,451 --> 00:30:16,454 I didn't want to decide anything until I'd spoken to all of you. 375 00:30:17,756 --> 00:30:18,790 He's right, though. 376 00:30:18,890 --> 00:30:20,759 If the UN do impose sanctions on Libya, 377 00:30:20,859 --> 00:30:24,095 those two men will never stand trial in Scotland. 378 00:30:24,829 --> 00:30:26,364 - It's crazy, I know. - WILL: Crazy? 379 00:30:26,464 --> 00:30:29,901 Terry Waite went to Beirut to negotiate the release of hostages, 380 00:30:30,001 --> 00:30:32,404 and they locked him in a basement for four years. 381 00:30:32,504 --> 00:30:34,939 Do I have any choice? 382 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,842 If there's no trial, we will never find out the truth. 383 00:30:37,942 --> 00:30:39,711 WILL: Do you know what they call Gaddafi? 384 00:30:39,811 --> 00:30:43,548 The Mad Dog. He's a dictator. His regime murders people. 385 00:30:43,648 --> 00:30:44,649 JIM: I'm completely aware of that. 386 00:30:44,749 --> 00:30:47,652 I'm sure he's happy to sit down with Jim Swire, 387 00:30:47,752 --> 00:30:51,823 a GP from Bromsgrove, and give him whatever he wants. 388 00:30:51,923 --> 00:30:53,525 - Mum, are you gonna say anything? - I have. 389 00:30:53,625 --> 00:30:56,628 {\an8}- I didn't want it to descend into this. - What did you expect? 390 00:30:56,728 --> 00:30:58,463 That we're all behind you? 391 00:30:58,563 --> 00:31:01,466 No, please... Will, please come back. 392 00:31:01,566 --> 00:31:04,302 (FOOTSTEPS RECEDING) 393 00:31:07,138 --> 00:31:09,407 Well, Gaddafi's popularity stems 394 00:31:09,507 --> 00:31:11,443 from his nationalist achievements. 395 00:31:11,543 --> 00:31:13,878 Demanding higher prices for Libyan oil, 396 00:31:13,978 --> 00:31:15,280 expelling foreign military bases, 397 00:31:15,380 --> 00:31:19,484 support for Palestine and other anti-imperialist causes. 398 00:31:19,584 --> 00:31:22,320 Gaddafi has also had dozens of his critics 399 00:31:22,420 --> 00:31:25,490 around the world assassinated. 400 00:31:28,927 --> 00:31:30,161 The moral support you wanted? 401 00:31:30,261 --> 00:31:32,564 - I have to do this. - I can't tell you what to do. 402 00:31:32,664 --> 00:31:34,265 - You would go. - Like a shot. 403 00:31:34,366 --> 00:31:36,067 But I don't have a family. 404 00:31:36,167 --> 00:31:40,138 I'm not a spokesman for UK Families Flight 103. 405 00:31:42,073 --> 00:31:44,242 - Have you told them about this? - Not yet. 406 00:31:45,176 --> 00:31:47,212 But I'm hoping they'll be in support. 407 00:31:49,514 --> 00:31:54,019 The group... The family's not exactly happy about it. 408 00:31:54,953 --> 00:31:56,254 (EXCLAIMS HESITANTLY) 409 00:31:56,788 --> 00:31:58,023 What? 410 00:31:58,123 --> 00:32:01,192 Just make sure they don't say anything to anyone. 411 00:32:03,762 --> 00:32:06,331 - Why? - Jim, are you kiddin'? 412 00:32:06,431 --> 00:32:07,365 (CHUCKLES) 413 00:32:07,465 --> 00:32:10,001 You took a fake bomb on a passenger plane. 414 00:32:10,101 --> 00:32:13,071 You've pissed off Thatcher's government God knows how many times. 415 00:32:13,171 --> 00:32:15,573 - They'll be watching your every move. - No. 416 00:32:17,308 --> 00:32:20,478 - You really think so? - They'll get every fax before you do. 417 00:32:20,578 --> 00:32:21,579 Tap every phone call. 418 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,248 They've probably been listening in for years. 419 00:32:23,348 --> 00:32:25,950 From now on, you need to be careful what you say. 420 00:32:26,051 --> 00:32:28,453 But I promised Jane I'd phone her every day. 421 00:32:28,553 --> 00:32:29,554 (SIGHS) 422 00:32:32,190 --> 00:32:34,426 Will they try to stop me, you think? 423 00:32:34,526 --> 00:32:39,464 Libya's been on the state-sponsored terrorism list since 1979. 424 00:32:39,564 --> 00:32:41,366 So yeah, they might. 425 00:32:42,067 --> 00:32:43,568 You watch yourself. 426 00:32:44,235 --> 00:32:46,171 You're no good to anyone dead. 427 00:32:51,776 --> 00:32:55,880 JIM: If I call you and say, "Tell the family everything's all right," 428 00:32:55,980 --> 00:32:57,415 that means what it says. 429 00:32:58,249 --> 00:33:00,285 - I'm safe. - Bye, darling. 430 00:33:04,222 --> 00:33:06,758 JIM: If I say, "Tell the family everything's fine..." 431 00:33:06,858 --> 00:33:10,729 JANE: That means things are not going as planned, but they're not critical. 432 00:33:12,430 --> 00:33:16,601 JIM: If I say, "Tell everyone everything's all right." 433 00:33:16,701 --> 00:33:18,203 That means I'm in danger. 434 00:33:18,303 --> 00:33:21,172 Phone the Foreign Office and tell them to get me out. 435 00:33:22,140 --> 00:33:24,342 And what if you can't get to a phone? 436 00:34:03,081 --> 00:34:05,316 (ENGINE STARTS) 437 00:34:23,768 --> 00:34:25,370 (TIRES SQUEAL) 438 00:34:41,986 --> 00:34:44,556 (TIRES SQUEALING) 439 00:34:47,892 --> 00:34:49,894 (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) 440 00:35:22,660 --> 00:35:23,661 (CAR DOOR CLOSES) 441 00:35:59,230 --> 00:36:01,466 NABIL: It's okay. We wait here. 442 00:36:04,803 --> 00:36:05,804 Who's this? 443 00:36:06,905 --> 00:36:10,141 It's, uh, the 1986 attack, 444 00:36:10,241 --> 00:36:13,144 when Reagan ordered the bombing of Tripoli. 445 00:36:13,244 --> 00:36:16,848 Gaddafi's adoptive daughter, Hannah, was killed instantly. 446 00:36:16,948 --> 00:36:18,950 She was 15 months old. 447 00:36:19,050 --> 00:36:20,452 He has never forgotten. 448 00:36:26,658 --> 00:36:27,659 Please. 449 00:36:28,059 --> 00:36:30,261 (SPEAKING ARABIC) 450 00:36:30,362 --> 00:36:32,997 (IN ENGLISH) Um, I will wait for you here. 451 00:36:33,098 --> 00:36:34,666 Good luck, Dr. Swire. 452 00:37:07,065 --> 00:37:08,099 (DOOR OPENS) 453 00:37:08,199 --> 00:37:10,502 (FOOTSTEPS APPROACHING) 454 00:37:56,381 --> 00:37:58,283 Thank you for meeting with me, sir. 455 00:37:58,850 --> 00:38:00,719 You have come to talk with me. 456 00:38:02,153 --> 00:38:03,488 So talk. 457 00:38:04,923 --> 00:38:07,659 We, um, myself, 458 00:38:07,759 --> 00:38:10,628 the families and relatives of those who died, 459 00:38:11,629 --> 00:38:14,599 our utmost desire is, uh, to see justice done. 460 00:38:14,699 --> 00:38:17,369 So tell me, how will justice be done? 461 00:38:17,469 --> 00:38:19,337 Already the West has convicted them. 462 00:38:19,437 --> 00:38:21,339 They are the Lockerbie bombers. 463 00:38:21,439 --> 00:38:24,042 The Libyan mass murderers. Is that justice? 464 00:38:24,142 --> 00:38:26,111 No, sir. It is not. 465 00:38:29,047 --> 00:38:30,048 If I may... 466 00:38:41,426 --> 00:38:47,799 I brought some photographs of my daughter Flora. 467 00:38:57,642 --> 00:39:02,647 I ask only that the two men accused of this crime be made to stand trial. 468 00:39:02,747 --> 00:39:04,482 I assure you, they will be treated fairly. 469 00:39:04,582 --> 00:39:07,185 When has Libya ever been treated fairly? 470 00:39:07,285 --> 00:39:08,687 Can you tell me? 471 00:39:08,787 --> 00:39:11,790 My country is being blackmailed and bullied into compliance 472 00:39:11,890 --> 00:39:15,026 by the Americans, by the UN, and your country. 473 00:39:17,128 --> 00:39:18,329 If you do as they wish-- 474 00:39:18,430 --> 00:39:20,732 Why should I agree to a trial here or anywhere? 475 00:39:20,832 --> 00:39:24,135 Did the cowardly American pilot who dropped the missile 476 00:39:24,235 --> 00:39:26,571 on my home ever stand a trial? No. 477 00:39:26,671 --> 00:39:28,940 He was commended for his bravery. 478 00:39:30,241 --> 00:39:31,910 This meeting is over. 479 00:39:42,854 --> 00:39:44,656 Sir, we both lost daughters. 480 00:39:47,392 --> 00:39:49,561 I'm asking you, father to father. 481 00:40:13,485 --> 00:40:15,153 This is not about revenge. 482 00:40:20,091 --> 00:40:21,860 Pan Am 103. 483 00:40:23,128 --> 00:40:24,562 The truth must be known. 484 00:40:30,468 --> 00:40:32,237 I only want to know who killed my daughter. 485 00:41:01,633 --> 00:41:04,903 A British man who lost his daughter in the Pan Am 103 bombing 486 00:41:05,003 --> 00:41:08,707 is being criticized for meeting with Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi. 487 00:41:08,807 --> 00:41:10,175 I fully understand the repugnance 488 00:41:10,275 --> 00:41:12,177 at anyone shaking the hand of Colonel Gaddafi, 489 00:41:12,277 --> 00:41:15,880 a man who may have known about, or even ordered the Lockerbie plot. 490 00:41:15,980 --> 00:41:18,583 But let them also ask themselves if they want to see 491 00:41:18,683 --> 00:41:20,719 these two men stand trial or not. 492 00:41:20,819 --> 00:41:24,656 {\an8}I'm angry because the British perception of Jim Swire 493 00:41:24,756 --> 00:41:26,858 {\an8}is that he speaks for all of us. 494 00:41:28,493 --> 00:41:34,132 {\an8}BERT: Well, Jim's heart was in the right place, but, uh, he left his brain at home. 495 00:41:34,232 --> 00:41:37,936 {\an8}The Libyans have won a propaganda coup with this trip. 496 00:41:39,804 --> 00:41:42,307 {\an8}Jim Swire has been duped by Gaddafi. 497 00:41:42,407 --> 00:41:44,976 {\an8}Jim Swire has become Gaddafi's poodle. 498 00:41:46,311 --> 00:41:49,547 JOHN MOSEY: We're glad as a group to have someone like Jim, 499 00:41:49,647 --> 00:41:54,085 {\an8}someone who is as active and committed and dedicated. 500 00:41:54,185 --> 00:41:59,691 {\an8}Although it has, and it will cost him a great deal. 501 00:42:16,441 --> 00:42:17,742 {\an8}(SPEAKING ARABIC) 502 00:42:32,057 --> 00:42:34,125 (IN ENGLISH) Pierre Salinger, ABC News. 503 00:42:34,225 --> 00:42:35,427 Hello, sir. 504 00:42:35,527 --> 00:42:37,462 Very grateful you've agreed to speak with me, Mr. Megrahi. 505 00:42:37,562 --> 00:42:41,066 America is very interested in what you have to say about these charges. 506 00:42:43,201 --> 00:42:47,038 According to the indictment, you traveled with a special suitcase 507 00:42:47,138 --> 00:42:52,310 from Tripoli to Malta Airport on the 20th of December, 1988. 508 00:42:52,410 --> 00:42:53,978 What you mean special suitcase? 509 00:42:54,579 --> 00:42:56,147 A Samsonite suitcase. 510 00:42:57,449 --> 00:42:59,751 No, that is wrong. Uh... 511 00:43:00,251 --> 00:43:01,519 Whenever I go to Malta, 512 00:43:01,619 --> 00:43:04,889 which is a lot, because of my job, I... I... 513 00:43:04,989 --> 00:43:09,728 {\an8}I carry what I... what I carry in a... a clothing case. 514 00:43:09,828 --> 00:43:12,764 It's a small case, a small case. A small case. 515 00:43:12,864 --> 00:43:15,400 Nev... Never big case. 516 00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:17,902 SALINGER: You keep a diary, Mr. Fhimah, do you not? 517 00:43:18,002 --> 00:43:20,038 Yes, a personal diary. 518 00:43:20,138 --> 00:43:21,539 SALINGER: Hmm. 519 00:43:21,639 --> 00:43:25,143 They say you wrote a reminder to take some Air Malta baggage tags, 520 00:43:25,243 --> 00:43:28,980 the kind that get bags onto planes unaccompanied from the airport. 521 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,349 Now, why would you have written that? 522 00:43:31,449 --> 00:43:34,219 If I could, uh, look at my diary, 523 00:43:34,319 --> 00:43:35,387 I could tell you why. 524 00:43:35,487 --> 00:43:38,223 The indictment also says that when you went to Malta 525 00:43:38,323 --> 00:43:39,424 on the 20th of December, 526 00:43:39,524 --> 00:43:42,927 you did so on a false passport, using a false name. 527 00:43:43,028 --> 00:43:45,930 If I had written something important in my diary, 528 00:43:46,031 --> 00:43:48,133 I wouldn't have just left it there. 529 00:43:48,233 --> 00:43:49,768 In other words, if you felt there was something in there 530 00:43:49,868 --> 00:43:52,203 that might implicate you in some crime? 531 00:43:52,303 --> 00:43:53,571 Exactly. Exactly. 532 00:43:53,672 --> 00:43:57,442 (CHUCKLES) I'm, uh, surp... surprised they tell me this. 533 00:43:57,542 --> 00:43:59,044 I'm here in Tripoli. 534 00:43:59,144 --> 00:44:01,980 My family know I was here. I was here. They know I was here. 535 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,882 SALINGER: Well, the indictment says you were in Malta. 536 00:44:03,982 --> 00:44:06,217 That you stayed at the Holiday Inn on the night of the 20th, 537 00:44:06,317 --> 00:44:09,587 into the 21st of December, 1988, the day of the bombing. 538 00:44:09,688 --> 00:44:13,091 My friend, I tell you, I'm... I'm not on Malta on the day. 539 00:44:13,191 --> 00:44:14,225 I was here. 540 00:44:14,325 --> 00:44:16,428 You were here, in Tripoli, on the 21st of December? 541 00:44:16,528 --> 00:44:18,096 Yes. 542 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,903 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 543 00:44:26,638 --> 00:44:28,373 (VAN DOOR SLIDING CLOSED) 544 00:44:29,274 --> 00:44:30,842 (ENGINE STARTING) 545 00:44:32,677 --> 00:44:34,045 (SIGHS) 546 00:44:35,313 --> 00:44:36,314 {\an8}(SPEAKING ARABIC) 547 00:45:28,633 --> 00:45:29,768 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 548 00:45:29,868 --> 00:45:31,469 - JIM: (IN ENGLISH) Hello? - NABIL: Hello, Jim. 549 00:45:31,569 --> 00:45:32,604 JIM: Nabil. 550 00:45:32,704 --> 00:45:33,972 NABIL: It's exactly as I feared. 551 00:45:34,072 --> 00:45:36,141 The UN Security Council have passed the resolution. 552 00:45:36,241 --> 00:45:39,310 And now Gaddafi is refusing to release the two suspects, 553 00:45:39,411 --> 00:45:40,478 despite the sanctions. 554 00:45:40,578 --> 00:45:41,613 No. 555 00:45:41,713 --> 00:45:44,049 NABIL: We've reached a stalemate, Jim. 556 00:45:44,783 --> 00:45:46,484 A standoff has begun. 557 00:45:46,584 --> 00:45:49,821 COUNCIL MEMBER: The international community will not tolerate such threats 558 00:45:49,921 --> 00:45:52,123 {\an8}to international peace and security. 559 00:45:52,223 --> 00:45:55,560 It is prepared to take concerted political action 560 00:45:55,660 --> 00:45:57,228 against the continuing defiance 561 00:45:57,328 --> 00:46:00,832 represented by Libya's state-supported terrorists. 562 00:46:00,932 --> 00:46:02,634 NEWSCASTER 1: At a five-year memorial service, 563 00:46:02,734 --> 00:46:05,770 President Clinton had appeared to throw down the gauntlet 564 00:46:05,870 --> 00:46:07,405 for the Pan Am bombing. 565 00:46:07,505 --> 00:46:09,240 It was an attack on America. 566 00:46:09,341 --> 00:46:11,910 NEWSCASTER 2: The next logical punitive step by the United Nations 567 00:46:12,010 --> 00:46:13,244 would be to order a naval blockade. 568 00:46:13,345 --> 00:46:15,013 NEWSCASTER 3: ...if not outright military action. 569 00:46:15,113 --> 00:46:17,682 {\an8}Libyan anger over United Nations' sanction vote 570 00:46:17,782 --> 00:46:19,150 {\an8}has apparently come to a boil. 571 00:46:19,250 --> 00:46:21,653 Demonstrators attacked foreign embassies in Tripoli today. 572 00:46:21,753 --> 00:46:23,521 NEWSCASTER 4: ...took to the streets to protest... 573 00:46:23,621 --> 00:46:26,024 NEWSCASTER 5: US sanctions have cost nearly $2.5 billion. 574 00:46:26,124 --> 00:46:27,992 FRANK RUBINO: My clients have advised me that they cannot 575 00:46:28,093 --> 00:46:30,995 {\an8}get a fair trial in the United States... 576 00:46:31,096 --> 00:46:32,931 {\an8}...where people believe they're already guilty. 577 00:46:33,031 --> 00:46:34,265 NEWSCASTER 6: Under no circumstances 578 00:46:34,366 --> 00:46:36,568 will they be extradited to face trial in the West. 579 00:46:36,668 --> 00:46:37,969 Sorry, we cannot. 580 00:46:38,069 --> 00:46:40,372 It is unacceptable to say justice in Scotland is not fair. 581 00:46:40,472 --> 00:46:43,208 About time all sides stopped shouting at each other from the touchlines. 582 00:46:43,308 --> 00:46:46,144 {\an8}I'm not here to talk politics. I'm here to talk truth and justice. 583 00:46:46,244 --> 00:46:49,047 LIBYAN MINISTER: We have the same interest like Jim Swire. 584 00:46:49,147 --> 00:46:52,384 We want the truth to be revealed and to be found. 585 00:46:52,484 --> 00:46:54,986 Have we done everything we could do? 586 00:46:55,086 --> 00:46:57,389 {\an8}Well, uh, if that's so, it hasn't been enough. 587 00:46:57,489 --> 00:47:00,592 NEWSCASTER 7: Eight years after Pan Am 103 was blown out of the sky, 588 00:47:00,692 --> 00:47:03,194 the case against the suspected terrorist bombers 589 00:47:03,294 --> 00:47:05,897 is an international standoff going nowhere. 590 00:47:05,997 --> 00:47:08,233 Libya's leader refuses to hand the men over. 591 00:47:08,333 --> 00:47:11,770 Resolving the case of Pan Am 103 in a court of law 592 00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:13,571 seems as distant as ever. 593 00:47:13,672 --> 00:47:16,141 {\an8}My latest proposal will be my last. 594 00:47:16,241 --> 00:47:18,476 {\an8}If this doesn't work, it may be the end of the line. 595 00:47:18,576 --> 00:47:21,246 There is a slight chance it will be accepted, 596 00:47:21,346 --> 00:47:24,315 and any chance is better than no chance. 597 00:47:31,056 --> 00:47:33,024 JIM: Thank you for meeting me, Professor Black. 598 00:47:33,124 --> 00:47:35,627 Oh, please, Jim. It's, uh, Robert. 599 00:47:35,727 --> 00:47:37,128 I feel like I already know you. 600 00:47:37,462 --> 00:47:38,463 Please. 601 00:47:39,564 --> 00:47:41,566 After four long years, 602 00:47:41,666 --> 00:47:42,801 this is where we stand. 603 00:47:42,901 --> 00:47:46,638 We are proposing the trial be held in a neutral country. 604 00:47:46,738 --> 00:47:48,039 The Netherlands? 605 00:47:48,139 --> 00:47:49,708 Uh, it's the only way we'll get the Libyans on board. 606 00:47:49,808 --> 00:47:51,343 It's the same with the jury. 607 00:47:51,443 --> 00:47:54,412 Their lawyers are arguing that any jury will be biased. 608 00:47:54,512 --> 00:47:57,615 So we're proposing a panel of Scottish judges, 609 00:47:57,716 --> 00:48:01,453 which Libya are still... (SIGHS) 610 00:48:01,553 --> 00:48:02,220 ...mulling over. 611 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,254 You've had quite a battle of it. 612 00:48:03,355 --> 00:48:06,224 We are making legal history here. 613 00:48:06,324 --> 00:48:09,961 Nothing like this on this scale has ever been done before. 614 00:48:10,829 --> 00:48:13,331 The only problem is the US and the UK don't want 615 00:48:13,431 --> 00:48:15,734 to be seen making concessions to Gaddafi. 616 00:48:15,834 --> 00:48:18,837 And Gaddafi wants the Arab world to see him standing up 617 00:48:18,937 --> 00:48:22,507 to the imperialistic dogs of the West. 618 00:48:22,607 --> 00:48:26,478 Behind closed doors, of course, both sides are desperate to agree. 619 00:48:26,578 --> 00:48:28,413 The UK and the US for the sake of the families, 620 00:48:28,513 --> 00:48:32,984 and Libya because UN sanctions are slowly killing the country. 621 00:48:33,084 --> 00:48:35,253 Right now, it's Gaddafi that worries me. 622 00:48:35,820 --> 00:48:36,988 I think he's about to walk away, 623 00:48:37,088 --> 00:48:38,757 whether his country collapses or not. 624 00:48:38,857 --> 00:48:40,558 - You can't give up. - I don't want to. 625 00:48:40,658 --> 00:48:43,461 I was born and raised in Lockerbie, Jim. 626 00:48:44,162 --> 00:48:47,298 We will do all we can. Believe me. 627 00:48:47,399 --> 00:48:52,237 But unless we can get Gaddafi on board, it's game over. 628 00:48:52,771 --> 00:48:54,139 I'll help you. 629 00:48:57,142 --> 00:48:58,910 I have Gaddafi on speed dial. 630 00:48:59,010 --> 00:49:02,313 (CELLPHONE KEYPAD BEEPING) 631 00:49:04,416 --> 00:49:06,751 Last traces of my sense of humor, Robert. 632 00:49:07,585 --> 00:49:11,322 Ah. (CHUCKLES) 633 00:49:13,725 --> 00:49:14,793 But I'm serious. 634 00:49:16,928 --> 00:49:18,430 We should go and pay him a visit. 635 00:49:58,069 --> 00:49:59,938 (EXHALES) 636 00:50:00,038 --> 00:50:02,407 Don't take waiting this long as a bad sign. 637 00:50:17,188 --> 00:50:18,490 (SPEAKING ARABIC) 638 00:50:24,629 --> 00:50:26,965 (IN ENGLISH) This is Professor Robert Black, 639 00:50:27,065 --> 00:50:29,634 the legal expert who first proposed the idea. 640 00:50:31,069 --> 00:50:32,570 (SPEAKING ARABIC) 641 00:50:32,670 --> 00:50:33,672 (IN ENGLISH) Have a seat. 642 00:50:43,081 --> 00:50:45,483 My patience is being tested. 643 00:50:45,583 --> 00:50:48,186 My legal experts has been in a discussion 644 00:50:48,286 --> 00:50:49,554 with yours for many years. 645 00:50:49,654 --> 00:50:53,558 We are impatient also, but we must persevere. 646 00:50:54,259 --> 00:50:57,595 Uh... Uh, the tide is turning, sir. 647 00:50:57,696 --> 00:51:01,066 I note that the Arab League have signaled their displeasure 648 00:51:01,166 --> 00:51:03,068 at the current sanctions. 649 00:51:03,168 --> 00:51:05,804 The whole world wants to see this trial happen. 650 00:51:09,274 --> 00:51:11,176 The one thing they aren't expecting 651 00:51:11,276 --> 00:51:14,212 is for you to take the lead. Send the suspects. 652 00:51:14,312 --> 00:51:17,349 The... the trial will be fair, your reputation intact. 653 00:51:17,449 --> 00:51:19,718 And they will have no choice but to lift the sanctions. 654 00:51:19,818 --> 00:51:21,019 You win. 655 00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:22,120 JIM: On every count, sir. 656 00:51:22,220 --> 00:51:24,456 A victory for both you and your country. 657 00:51:26,424 --> 00:51:29,794 The way you lead, others will follow. 658 00:51:31,162 --> 00:51:33,431 NEWSCASTER 1: The Libyan government has finally agreed 659 00:51:33,531 --> 00:51:35,233 to allow the suspects to be tried 660 00:51:35,333 --> 00:51:39,003 in neutral territory under Scottish law. 661 00:51:39,104 --> 00:51:40,939 - (POUNDING ON DOOR) - (AISHA GASPS) 662 00:51:44,809 --> 00:51:47,645 NEWSCASTER 2: The trial, masterminded by Professor Robert Black, 663 00:51:47,746 --> 00:51:50,715 will be held at a former airbase in the Netherlands, 664 00:51:50,815 --> 00:51:53,485 a first in international legal history. 665 00:52:17,776 --> 00:52:20,045 NEWSCASTER 3: Some people said there was never going to be 666 00:52:20,145 --> 00:52:23,114 a criminal trial into the mass murder over Lockerbie. 667 00:52:23,214 --> 00:52:25,316 There now is going to be a criminal trial. 668 00:52:25,417 --> 00:52:27,052 And best of all, the relatives will now have 669 00:52:27,152 --> 00:52:28,586 the chance to hear the evidence 670 00:52:28,687 --> 00:52:31,423 that we hold brought out in a local court. 671 00:52:46,671 --> 00:52:48,606 I know you want to go to the trial. 672 00:52:50,809 --> 00:52:52,377 But after it's over, 673 00:52:53,178 --> 00:52:54,813 I want you to promise me something. 674 00:52:55,914 --> 00:52:56,915 What? 675 00:53:03,988 --> 00:53:05,390 JANE: That that's the end of it. 676 00:53:06,791 --> 00:53:07,792 You stop. 677 00:53:09,694 --> 00:53:12,397 You accept the verdict, whatever it is. 678 00:53:19,871 --> 00:53:20,905 And we get you back. 679 00:53:21,006 --> 00:53:23,008 (INTENSE MUSIC PLAYING) 680 00:53:35,086 --> 00:53:36,054 I promise. 681 00:53:38,256 --> 00:53:40,592 (THEME MUSIC PLAYING) 53632

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